November 14, 2013
— Ace Sorry, I was tweeting this buscrash of a presser when I should have been blogging it.
I'll sum up my take-away later.
For now, maybe give this Jonah Goldberg piece a spin: Obamacare Shadenfruedarama. Despite the funny title, it's about something more important.
The hubris of our ocean-commanding commander-in-chief surely isn’t news to readers of this website. He’s said that he’s smarter and better than everyone who works for him. His wife informed us that he has “brought us out of the dark and into the light” and that he would fix our broken souls. The man defined sin itself as “being out of alignment with my values.” We may be the ones we’ve been waiting for, but at the same time, everyone has been waiting for him. Or as he put it in 2007, “Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama’s been there.”In every tale of hubris, the transgressor is eventually slapped across the face with the semi-frozen flounder of reality. The Greeks had a god, Nemesis, whose scythe performed the same function. It was Nemesis who lured Narcissus to the pool where he fell in love with his own reflection....
Every day, the supposedly conspiratorial right-wing smear that Obama cared more about economic redistribution than he did about the middle class or economic growth looks more reasonable. Surely we’re allowed to say, “We told you so”?
[A]s a political and ideological matter, this is beyond fantastic. For years we’ve been told that Democrats were more “reality-based,” that “facts have a liberal bias,” in the words of Paul Krugman, and that if they could just have their way, they could fix all of our problems. No one represented this arrogant promise more than Barack Obama himself. But, with an irony so rich it would be made of Corinthian leather if it was a car seat, the only way he could get his signature legislation passed was to baldly and brazenly lie about it, over and over and over again. He created a rhetorical cloud castle where no one would lose his insurance, every family would save thousands of dollars, and millions of the uninsured would suddenly get coverage. Anyone who doubted this was called a fool or a liar, or even a racist...
And all of this — every bit of it — is their own fault.
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Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 14, 2013 09:02 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 14, 2013 09:02 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 14, 2013 09:03 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 14, 2013 09:03 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 14, 2013 01:02 PM (ZPrif)
GAH!
It's "Death Cascade"!!!
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:04 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 14, 2013 09:04 AM (/Crba)
I hope it's about Iranian sanctions and immigration reform, because, you know, who cares about the ACA.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (IV4od)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (SUKHu)
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Can hell be Barack Obama country? Please?
Posted by: flounder at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (Usdw3)
Posted by: The Participation President at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (k55Fc)
Posted by: Capt. Edward John Smith at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: dogfish at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, somewhere at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: King Canute at November 14, 2013 09:05 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 14, 2013 09:06 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Zombie Ricardo Montalban at November 14, 2013 09:06 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 14, 2013 09:06 AM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 09:06 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, somewhere at November 14, 2013 09:06 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: rd at November 14, 2013 09:07 AM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Goodwyn at November 14, 2013 09:07 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: William Shatner at November 14, 2013 09:07 AM (B5y+v)
Have the Obama's never bought Insurance before?
Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 09:07 AM (nqBYe)
FIFY.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, somewhere at November 14, 2013 01:06 PM (naUcP)
Even better!!!
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:07 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 14, 2013 09:08 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 14, 2013 09:08 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: President For Life Obama at November 14, 2013 09:08 AM (B5y+v)
Wow...I watched the whole thing and it was painful to watch.
In between rambling incoherently, he was like a little kid rearranging a bunch of phrases that he was told to memorize.
Posted by: wheatie at November 14, 2013 09:09 AM (c87DZ)
At least Axl can deliver.
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:09 AM (GQ8sn)
My son must be a super genius. He bought USAA auto insurance with his iPhone in just a few minutes.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 09:09 AM (lVPtV)
Chris Wallace reading a statement from some insurance consortium on Obama's announcement....
To sum up: Will destabilize the whole market.
Posted by: Tami at November 14, 2013 01:05 PM (bCEmE)
Barry: How in the hell else am I gonna get to a national health plan if I don't fuck everything up first?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 14, 2013 09:09 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 14, 2013 09:09 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 09:09 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: W. Axl Rose at November 14, 2013 09:09 AM (/Crba)
Next up, Democrat [fill in the blank] on why the Republicans have made the Obamacare roll-out so difficult and what they must do about it....
Posted by: CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/PBS at November 14, 2013 09:09 AM (JRmiD)
***
Well said...Bravo. Now excuse me while I whip out my semi-frozen flounder of a shodden-boner and dance around the office nekkid.
Posted by: dananjcon at November 14, 2013 09:09 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: George Soros at November 14, 2013 09:10 AM (B5y+v)
I heard "Part of the problem is the technology..."
As if we humans have invented a secure web site as of 2013.
No, the problems is that you gave the job away as political patronage to a bunch of incompetent cronies who could not get the job done in 30 months and half a billion dollars later.
Posted by: navybrat at November 14, 2013 09:10 AM (Av6y6)
I especially liked the way that Obama dissed every reporter in the room as he was leaving.
They've already started to see that their god bleeds, and he just made it worse by insulting them to their faces.
It's going to be an interesting 3 more years.....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 14, 2013 09:10 AM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 14, 2013 09:10 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 14, 2013 09:10 AM (/Crba)
"Buying health insurance is not ever going to be like buying a song on Itunes."
Posted by: Tami at November 14, 2013 01:08 PM (bCEmE)
He's truly brain damaged.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 09:10 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: GEICO Cave Man at November 14, 2013 09:10 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 01:09 PM (GQ8sn) That he can EC......
I suppose the next step is to fire Syphilis and replace her with Flo from Progressive. Name your own price and coverage's and that type of thing
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 14, 2013 09:10 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: M. Murcek at November 14, 2013 09:10 AM (GJUgF)
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 14, 2013 09:11 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: flounder at November 14, 2013 09:11 AM (Kkt/i)
What is the estimation of what it sounded like to LIV's?
Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 09:11 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 09:11 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: America at November 14, 2013 09:11 AM (B5y+v)
Just think where we will be in that time, why we could be anywhere!
Posted by: Wolfram Zeta at November 14, 2013 09:11 AM (GaPPH)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 09:12 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: t-bird at November 14, 2013 09:12 AM (FcR7P)
The most interesting Preznit in the world...
"I don't always shit the bed, but when I do I prefer to do it on TV."
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 14, 2013 09:12 AM (sG76x)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 14, 2013 09:12 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at November 14, 2013 09:12 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Senator Cruz at November 14, 2013 09:12 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: oejay44cday at November 14, 2013 09:12 AM (Raxbk)
Banana. Republic. If you can keep it.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 14, 2013 09:13 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: The LIVs at November 14, 2013 09:13 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Barky O'Genius at November 14, 2013 09:13 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Charlie Crist at November 14, 2013 09:13 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, somewhere at November 14, 2013 09:13 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Havedash at November 14, 2013 09:13 AM (BRhGr)
Posted by: boned to the bone at November 14, 2013 09:13 AM (Ph479)
♪ Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if you're young at heart,♫
♫ I mean if you're young and don't need insurance, otherwise you're boned ♪
Posted by: King Bracky McInsurance OKnower at November 14, 2013 09:13 AM (iGPSR)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at November 14, 2013 09:13 AM (EXemq)
Posted by: Tami at November 14, 2013 01:08 PM (bCEmE)
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Ya know how awesome private sector technology is? I was able to move all of my I-tunes to my Kindle via the cloud.
My point?
Bite me Barry!!
Posted by: dananjcon at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (wmU4G)
C'mere so I can get a better look at that snipe on your head.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (rSTkb)
Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: ATMs at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (knoK7)
Oh, and the way that he said that the Federal Government "doesn't do IT very well" -
That just had to fill people with confidence right there, didn't it?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: Book at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (qWES6)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: jwb7605[/i][/u][/b] at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: MTF at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (B5y+v)
Posted by: fastfreefall at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (1rdVH)
Posted by: Fielding Mellish at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: LIVie at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (ix+5k)
You have a Type 99. My stepson just got one himself. How the frak do you find ammo for it????
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:14 AM (GQ8sn)
Pretty words from Mr. Goldberg.
At what point do we stop analyzing B. Obama? He's a lying, malignant narcissist. Ok... we all know. Now what?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 14, 2013 09:15 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 01:14 PM (lVPtV)
i hate these 'folks'
Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 09:15 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Havedash at November 14, 2013 09:15 AM (BRhGr)
Posted by: t-bird at November 14, 2013 09:15 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Mallfly at November 14, 2013 09:15 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Ma Bell at November 14, 2013 09:16 AM (RLdcX)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2013 09:16 AM (ix+5k)
"You can keep the doctors you know and trust. You keep the insurance you have," Clinton said on Sept. 17, 2007, at the Broadlawns Medical Center in Des Moines, Iowa. "If you have private insurance you like, nothing changes — you can keep that insurance."
Clinton's campaign website echoed that claim. "If you have a plan you like, you keep it," it read.
Posted by: Governor William J. Lepetomane at November 14, 2013 09:16 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: GEICO Cave Man at November 14, 2013 09:16 AM (j0wOO)
original GEIKO commercial: http://tinyurl.com/k6t3jym
Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 14, 2013 09:16 AM (jhI6f)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 14, 2013 09:16 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at November 14, 2013 09:16 AM (29vnO)
They're all working or shopping or sleeping or changing diapers or waiting in line at Starbucks or waiting for their dealer or the TV in the waiting room is showing Food Network or not out of bed yet.
Some of them may see or hear a short well-edited clip with all the bumbling and clusterfuck edited out later on today, and will conclude whatever the editors wish them to conclude.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 14, 2013 09:16 AM (/kI1Q)
That just had to fill people with confidence right there, didn't it?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 14, 2013 01:14 PM (PZ6/M)
uh oh, uhm, we're going to take over a 1/6 of the economy, and we Won't do It very well.
say thank you!
Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 09:16 AM (nqBYe)
"What we're also discovering is that insurance is complicated to buy."
Not if you get a hold of one of those genius Navigators, I'm told.
Posted by: wth at November 14, 2013 09:16 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 14, 2013 09:17 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 14, 2013 09:17 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 14, 2013 09:17 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Bank Tellers at November 14, 2013 09:17 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 09:17 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 01:14 PM (lVPtV)
Ummm......at this point, Debbie, the only one "obstructing the full implementation of Obamacare" is.....
......Obama.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 14, 2013 09:18 AM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 14, 2013 09:18 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: t-bird at November 14, 2013 09:18 AM (FcR7P)
Dumber than a box of hammers is Preezy Daddy Issues.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 09:18 AM (lVPtV)
What is the estimation of what it sounded like to LIV's?
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They're gonna lap it up like cream.
Posted by: creeper at November 14, 2013 09:19 AM (eR310)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2013 09:19 AM (ix+5k)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, somewhere at November 14, 2013 09:19 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 14, 2013 01:17 PM (32Ze2) ------------------------And with that said, nothing more can be said.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 14, 2013 09:19 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: willow at November 14, 2013 09:20 AM (nqBYe)
Yeah Han, but it was for a really great beer...Colt 45 fit for the king of the clouds...RIGHT Sascha?
//Barack "Lando" Obama Chief Administrator of Bespin Cloud City
Posted by: sven10077 at November 14, 2013 09:20 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 09:20 AM (0FSuD)
Ladies and gentlemen, the smartest man ever to be President...
Posted by: B at November 14, 2013 09:20 AM (XyoGP)
We have just folded space from Aetna. Many new policies on Aetna.
Posted by: ACA Navigator at November 14, 2013 09:20 AM (LwqhW)
Posted by: morigu at November 14, 2013 09:21 AM (UF8He)
Posted by: Totally Innocent Mama AJ at November 14, 2013 09:21 AM (SUKHu)
ok..so we know how his speech sounded to us,
What is the estimation of what it sounded like to LIV's?
"Durrrr.... what speech?"
-LIVs, going back to playing Candy Crush
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 14, 2013 09:21 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 01:14 PM (lVPtV)
Right after her demi-god said he was basically going do the same by delaying it's full implementation as written into that stuff called "law and junk". Gosh that ugly scrunt is stupid!
Posted by: Havedash at November 14, 2013 09:21 AM (BRhGr)
Posted by: King Barky O of Cloud Castle at November 14, 2013 09:21 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 14, 2013 09:21 AM (1Jaio)
I'll sum up my take-away later.-ACE
How much later? I'm bored at work and want your pearls of wisdom
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 14, 2013 09:22 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 14, 2013 01:02 PM (ZPrif)
Boy Joe, you hit that on the head.
WINNER!
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 01:11 PM (0FSuD)
*
Prepare for the Enfuckening.
And shit.
Posted by: dananjcon at November 14, 2013 09:22 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Ma Bell at November 14, 2013 01:16 PM (RLdcX)
Well, the back nine ain't gonna play itself, now is it? Genius!
Posted by: flounder at November 14, 2013 09:22 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Book at November 14, 2013 09:22 AM (qWES6)
"Go away! 'Baitin'!!!"
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:22 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 14, 2013 09:22 AM (j0wOO)
“'The website itself is doing a lot of stuff.”
Yeah, it's just doing it all A) wrong, B) incompetently, and C) illegally. But other than all that, it's great!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 14, 2013 09:22 AM (4df7R)
Yes. It is.
Heh.
Posted by: Stuxnet at November 14, 2013 09:22 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 09:22 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at November 14, 2013 09:23 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Book at November 14, 2013 09:23 AM (qWES6)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2013 09:23 AM (ix+5k)
Posted by: Totally Innocent Mama AJ at November 14, 2013 09:23 AM (SUKHu)
What are the odds the SCOTUS would ever hear such a case or rule against Obama? They've already ruled that Obama can us "prosecutorial discretion" to ignore and modify immigration law.
They're using the same "prosecutorial discretion" bullshit here.
Posted by: Axl Rose at November 14, 2013 09:23 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Dave S. at November 14, 2013 09:24 AM (JCIjD)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 14, 2013 09:24 AM (j0wOO)
By stuff he meant locking up after you just spent a half hour putting in your information and a having a little spinning wheel.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 14, 2013 09:24 AM (IV4od)
Health insurance should NOT be complicated to buy, any more than car insurance or homeonwer's insurance.
The reason it is complicated is lack of competition and advertising, and excessive government regulation. Obamacare makes ALL of that worse, not better.
Posted by: rockmom who wants to win in 2016 at November 14, 2013 09:24 AM (Q4elb)
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And then she started clawing at the invisible spiders crawling out of her hair, farted, and ate a crayon...
Posted by: B at November 14, 2013 09:24 AM (XyoGP)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 14, 2013 09:24 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 14, 2013 09:24 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 01:14 PM (lVPtV)
I thought the Tea Party is a bunch of redneck hicks. How can they derail the economy?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 14, 2013 09:24 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 14, 2013 09:24 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: The NSA, IRS and Russian credit-card fraud rings at November 14, 2013 09:25 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 14, 2013 09:25 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 14, 2013 09:25 AM (MhA4j)
Everyone who agrees to hand over their old and busted health insurance plan, and buy a new one on 404Care, will receive a "clunker payment" from our new "Cash For Clunkers" Act.
That's right folks, cash for your old policy and a brand spanking new policy too! Help the economy, get a payment and , for those who act today, we are offering two free airplane tickets anywhere Air Obama flys.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 14, 2013 09:25 AM (B5y+v)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 14, 2013 09:25 AM (bCEmE)
HOWARD DEAN is questioning Obama's authority to do this?
*looks to see if pigs are in the trees*
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 14, 2013 09:25 AM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 14, 2013 09:25 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at November 14, 2013 09:26 AM (j0wOO)
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And then she started clawing at the invisible spiders crawling out of her hair, farted, and ate a crayon...
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I declare this to be the thread winner.
Posted by: Voice of Experience at November 14, 2013 09:27 AM (eR310)
Of course he does. They've been reading from the same script at least since the days of Woodrow Wilson- once you get someone dependent on government, you own them and their vote.
(Mostly posting this obvious comment to rid myself of the Axl Rose sock I didn't even post with)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 14, 2013 09:28 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: t-bird at November 14, 2013 09:28 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Joe Biden at November 14, 2013 09:28 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 14, 2013 09:29 AM (bCEmE)
ACA website: All by myself I'm doing stuff like magic or something
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 14, 2013 09:29 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Tami at November 14, 2013 01:25 PM (bCEmE)
"Hey, folks, I tried! It's those greedy insurance companies that aren't gonna comply."
- Obammy, the eternal victim
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 14, 2013 09:29 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 14, 2013 01:25 PM (B5y+v)
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Oh, did I forget to mention we are also nationalizing the airline industry? Well, we are. Suck on that America!
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 14, 2013 09:29 AM (B5y+v)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 09:30 AM (0FSuD)
Shhh!
Posted by: The NSA, IRS and Russian credit-card fraud rings at November 14, 2013 01:25 PM (FcR7P)
Dammit, and Barry said there would be no competition.
Posted by: United Identity Thieves of America at November 14, 2013 09:30 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Book at November 14, 2013 09:30 AM (qWES6)
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 14, 2013 09:30 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 01:14 PM (GQ8sn)
No, I have a Type 30, 6.5x50, and I reload for it. Otherwise ammo will set you back approximately one of each type of limbs that you currently have two of (Midway has 7.7 Japanese for 41 bucks a box of 20).
And on that note, a scope mount made for a Type 99 might fit on a Type 38, but it won't fit on a Type 30 carbine. fml
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 14, 2013 09:31 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 14, 2013 09:31 AM (0FSuD)
#176 Karen Ignani and all the insurance company CEOs should be burned at the stake for supporting this abomination. I don't care how badly they get fucked now. And they are about to find out that neither does Barack Obama. What they are going to get now is "You fucked up! You trusted us!"
Posted by: rockmom who wants to win in 2016 at November 14, 2013 09:31 AM (qE3AR)
Posted by: CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/PBS at November 14, 2013 09:31 AM (JRmiD)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 14, 2013 09:32 AM (ZshNr)
"The website itself is doing a lot of stuff."
"Yeah, the GOOD stuff. No coke cut with drain cleaner for THIS website. Pure China White, that's me."
- 404Care.gov, honorary member of the Choom Gang
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 14, 2013 09:32 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: suitably adequate at November 14, 2013 09:32 AM (d0dHb)
Posted by: Havedash at November 14, 2013 09:32 AM (BRhGr)
Of course he does. They've been reading from the same script at least since the days of Woodrow Wilson- once you get someone dependent on government, you own them and their vote.
(Mostly posting this obvious comment to rid myself of the Axl Rose sock I didn't even post with)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 14, 2013 01:28 PM (SY2Kh)
Reminds me of the more concrete example of electioneering from season 3 of justified. Buying votes with blowjobs and liquor. First party that figures that one out will become the party of morons.
Posted by: flounder at November 14, 2013 09:33 AM (Kkt/i)
Oh, I know! That's on him though. He wanted a .30-06 but got suckered into the T99 by that fat british guy at Patriot Shooting Sports. I should have went with him, but he took off without me.
Now he's $150 poorer and $40 poorer every time he wants to go to the range.
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:33 AM (GQ8sn)
Six months from now, I intend to be offended. Then I'll blame Bush.
Posted by: Thulsa Choom at November 14, 2013 09:33 AM (wNF3N)
Joey Biden: I've been dialing the ObamaCare webnet for days and keep getting a busy signal
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 14, 2013 09:33 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 14, 2013 09:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 01:33 PM (GQ8sn)
Is he ready to sell it yet?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 14, 2013 09:35 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: flounder at November 14, 2013 01:33 PM (Kkt/i)
Dude, Democrats have been doing that in Kentucky since the nation was founded.
Posted by: rockmom who wants to win in 2016 at November 14, 2013 09:35 AM (NYnoe)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2013 09:35 AM (JRmiD)
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Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 14, 2013 09:36 AM (MhA4j)
To wit, that Obamacare is an identity-politics trap for many old-line Democrats.
Consider the position of a typical cynical senior Democratic pol inside the Beltway when suddenly Obama comes out of nowhere, and blazes across the firmament, and ends up in the Oval Office.
Any cynical old pol will tell you that whether it's show business or politics, novelty acts usually have a short run. And that's probably precisely what they expected. For Obama, the novelty act, to be in office for one term. And then a return to something more like politics as usual under a different President.
So when Obama proposed a radical takeover of one-sixth of the economy, the cynical old Democratic pols said, "This is a complete goat rodeo in the making. But, if full implementation is delayed till after 2012, we can go in and repeal the worst parts before they kick in. And if we've got a Republican president by then, that's our top cover. That lets us do it, but claim that we're doing it under duress."
Because having that top cover is very important to cynical old Democrats who have to keep their identity-politics hustle intact. It was absolutely politically impossible for any of them to say directly to The Historic First Black President that his plan was a goat rodeo. It was impossible to water down any of the worst provisions of Obamacare.
But, they figured, that's okay, because Obama is one and done. We'll pass the thing just as he wants it. Then later on, once Obama is out, the identity-politics bomb of open disagreement with The Historic First Black President is defused, and the goat rodeo can be averted. They could tell the progressive and black voters that, gosh, Obama was brilliant and Obamacare would have been great, but, darn it, he lost and now the awful Republicans are tearing down his legacy. (A legacy which the cynical old pols in reality could not wait to get rid of lest it endanger their slots at the trough.)
Then the unthinkable happened. The GOP coughed up a stiff, tin-eared zillionaire Mormon android who couldn't actually beat Obama. One and done, as predicted and expected? Didn't happen. The opportunity to shiv Obamacare in the back and blame it on the Republicans? Didn't happen.
So now the cynical senior Democratic pols are in a total panic. The goat rodeo is busting out of the gate in total disarray. It's a polling disaster for their entire party. And yet a genuinely substantive fix, involving major massive changes, effectively scrapping most of Obamacare as we know it, means a public conflict with Obama. Telling him to his face he was incompetent and wrong. And it means potentially pissing off the crucial African-American voter base which votes Democratic by 19 to 1 margins. Identity politics are a double-edged sword.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 14, 2013 09:36 AM (gqT4g)
He says he wants to keep it, but I think he realizes just what a suckers deal he took.
Are you looking?
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:39 AM (GQ8sn)
I do believe that comes with the Platinum Upgrade.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 14, 2013 09:39 AM (knoK7)
Posted by: rockmom who wants to win in 2016 at November 14, 2013 01:35 PM (NYnoe)
Time to move to Kentucky.
Posted by: flounder at November 14, 2013 09:39 AM (Kkt/i)
Otherwise it would be like trying to campaign against snakes while supporting spiders.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 14, 2013 09:39 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: dogfish at November 14, 2013 09:40 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: kathysaysso at November 14, 2013 09:40 AM (6H6o8)
On the up side, 7.7x58 is actually a bit stronger than 30-06 or .308 either one, and even the late war models of the Type 99 that aren't very pretty cosmetically are solid rifles. My advice is to have a good gunsmith check it out before you shoot it.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 14, 2013 09:41 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 14, 2013 09:41 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2013 09:41 AM (ix+5k)
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:41 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 01:39 PM (GQ8sn)
Curious at least. I just bought a scope mount for the T99 hoping it would fit on my T30. It doesn't, fml. 90 bucks to find that out.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 14, 2013 09:42 AM (yh0zB)
I dunno...she's been pretty chummy with the FSS lately.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 14, 2013 09:42 AM (knoK7)
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 01:41 PM (GQ8sn)
Well at least there is that.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 14, 2013 09:43 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: TOTUS at November 14, 2013 09:44 AM (nLIMC)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 14, 2013 09:44 AM (yh0zB)
If you are interested, let me know. We are planning to go to the show on the 24th. The local Marine Corps retiree club is raffling a LMT MWS .308 with bling at the show. I have two tickets!
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:44 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Book at November 14, 2013 09:44 AM (qWES6)
Steiner is going to relieve Berlin!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 14, 2013 09:48 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: LIV extraordinaire at November 14, 2013 09:48 AM (PMGbu)
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 01:44 PM (GQ8sn)
How bad has it been hacked up? Is the scope mounted with a scout mount (a scout mount requires the removal of the rear sight and the mount bolts on in it's place, no permanent modification of the rifle) or is the receiver drilled and tapped? If it has a scout mount, is the rear sight included with the rifle? Mum ground off? Bolt handle bent? Stock cut up?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 14, 2013 09:48 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 14, 2013 09:50 AM (PMGbu)
It's in decent shape. Obviously shoots.
There's a Tasco scope on it now, but I can't remember how it was mounted. The bolt handle is in great shape and you can work the action without problem.
No 'Mum obviously.
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:50 AM (GQ8sn)
They're doing what they feel is in their best interests. Some version of Obamacare was going to get pushed through with or without their support. It would've been foolish of them not to try and advance their interests and grab as many goodies as they could in the process.
From their perspective, there's a lot to like- mandatory participation, subsidies, higher premiums, and the competition can't undercut them with cheaper plans that cover fewer claims (birth control, drug treatment, etc).
That's not to say the insurance companies are the Good Guys (they're not), but in the end the blame lies 100% with the Dems.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 14, 2013 09:51 AM (SY2Kh)
No 'Mum obviously.
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 01:50 PM (GQ8sn)
But is the handle bent over to clear the scope, or is it straight? The reason I'm asking all these things is to determine if the rifle is pretty much stock or if it has been "sporterized". FWIW, if it's pretty much stock (or can easily be turned back that way) a collector will value it more. If not, it's an interesting hunting rifle.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 14, 2013 09:54 AM (yh0zB)
I can't remember. I'll take a pic of it and post the url to your blog.
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 09:56 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 01:56 PM (GQ8sn)
kewl. If I was interested, what do you think he'd want for it?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 14, 2013 09:59 AM (yh0zB)
He is reasonable and would want his sunk $150 back out of it. He is looking for a .30-06 bolt action rifle.
Posted by: EC at November 14, 2013 10:02 AM (GQ8sn)
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