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December 26, 2013

Of Course: Church Displays Nativity Scene With Hoodie-Wearing, Bleeding Trayvon Martin as its Jesus
— Ace

No artist or political commentator ever went broke selling provocations that play into unthinking people's resentments and vague feelings that they should have more than they do.

The article was originally posted at the Daily Bulletin.

John Zachary, the artist, told me the acquittal in July of George Zimmerman, who fatally shot the 17-year-old African-American in 2012, struck him as a worthy subject for Christmas comment.
For one thing, the backdrop to the Christmas story is the slaughter by King Herod of all infants in Bethlehem, a barbarous attempt to kill the Messiah.

This additional information is from Breitbart (the first link):

Zachary described that when looking for pictures of Trayvon "one of the teenager lying dead on the pavement particularly tore at him. 'What if Jesus was lying there bleeding to death? I was kind of thinking of that,' Zachary said."
The title of the nativity "art" is called " 'A Child is Born, a Son is Given,' the wording outlined in red formed from a pool of blood at TrayvonÂ’s feet."

You can tell the "Artist" is just sick about what happened to Trayvon Martin:

"I thought this would be more controversial, but I come to find out people donÂ’t really like people gettinÂ’ shot,Â” Zachary said with a chuckle. Â“They may not agree what to do about it, but they agree itÂ’s a bad thing."

Posted by: Ace at 11:24 AM | Comments (239)
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1 Fuck him and the publicity he seeks. Do not give it to him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 26, 2013 11:26 AM (DmNpO)

2 When Obama's your Messiah, Jesus can be anybody.

Posted by: --- at December 26, 2013 11:26 AM (MMC8r)

3 The California Church yeah.

Posted by: --- at December 26, 2013 11:27 AM (MMC8r)

4 Shouldn't Lasonia be in there holding his Arizona Iced Tea?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 26, 2013 11:27 AM (8ZskC)

5 What if Jesus was lying there bleeding? I don't think I read the part where Jesus was a punk, beating up on a "white cracker" and got shot. Must have missed it

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at December 26, 2013 11:27 AM (9+ccr)

6 I am normally affable and full of love. Stupid makes me hate.

Posted by: traye at December 26, 2013 11:28 AM (2m7Ih)

7 "I thought this would be more controversial," Sounds to me like people just gave it a collective "meh." Good.

Posted by: AMDG at December 26, 2013 11:28 AM (t7OO0)

8 Zachie, what was Trayvon doing the moment he was shot?

Posted by: eman at December 26, 2013 11:29 AM (EWsrI)

9 Is that "Zachary" in the pic? Because he looks just like a guy who washed my windshield with dirty newspapers while I was waiting to get on the eastbound 10.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 26, 2013 11:29 AM (8ZskC)

10 Bet there was a federal grant involved.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 26, 2013 11:30 AM (5ikDv)

11 I missed the part of the story where the infants were beating the crap out of King Herod, MMA style.

Posted by: West at December 26, 2013 11:30 AM (1Rgee)

12 "I thought this would be more controversial, but I come to find out people donÂ’t really like people gettinÂ’ shot,Â” Zachary said with a chuckle. Â“They may not agree what to do about it, but they agree itÂ’s a bad thing."

Awwww, poor baby. Did your attempt to be all edgy and controversial and stuff not quite go as you planned?

Here. Have some hot chocolate.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 26, 2013 11:31 AM (Gk3SS)

13 Publicity seeking asshole seeking publicity. And apparently he failed. http://youtu.be/zdCUpiI1MSA

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 26, 2013 11:31 AM (JpFMR)

14 Still waiting to find out if Zimmerman's old neighborhood is still plagued by smash and grab robberies.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2013 11:31 AM (7kUkN)

15 Extreme left wing of the Methodist Church located near Los Angeles. Sadly, it' s not really a surprise.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2013 11:31 AM (BC6cY)

16 King Herod killed Trayvon? And he was white?

Maybe we should look into this Herod fellow.

Posted by: Eric Holder at December 26, 2013 11:31 AM (8ZskC)

17 Isaiah 5:20 explains all of this.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 11:32 AM (XUKZU)

18 If Trayvon is Jesus, then that makes me....

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 26, 2013 11:32 AM (DrC22)

19 In the case of Zimmerman vs St Trayvon: They are both bad horses and a pox on both their houses

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2013 11:32 AM (t3UFN)

20 another reminder that you don't need much talent to pass yourself off as an "artist", just something that will get you your fifteen minutes of fame (much easier now, thanks to the internet.)

Posted by: Mallfly at December 26, 2013 11:32 AM (bJm7W)

Trayvon Martin is almost like Jesus.

He turned Arizona Ice Tea into Purple Drank

Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 11:33 AM (m2CN7)

22 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:33 AM (PYAXX)

23 18 If Trayvon is Jesus, then that makes meÂ…. Posted by: Barack Obama at December 26, 2013 03:32 PM (DrC22) Â…still a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 26, 2013 11:33 AM (JpFMR)

24 I knew there would be trouble when the church started serving purple drank at communion.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 11:33 AM (XUKZU)

25 Jesus' problem is he just didn't have good merchandising.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 26, 2013 11:33 AM (8ZskC)

26 This is part of the church mission statement: "Together, we seek GodÂ’s creative transformation of the world, and of individual hearts." If Trayvon's heart had been transformed by Christ he wouldn't be out trying to beat the heck out of someone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2013 11:34 AM (BC6cY)

27 We come bearing gifts.

Iced tea.
Skittles.
Cough syrup.

Posted by: The Three Wise Men at December 26, 2013 11:34 AM (2ljO9)

28 In the case of Zimmerman vs St Trayvon: They are both bad horses and a pox on both their houses Don't trust white-Hispanics and God loves a working man.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2013 11:34 AM (7kUkN)

29 Quite honestly, people that come up with this kinda shit should be butchered. Really. Very, very painfully. Fuckheads....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 26, 2013 11:35 AM (JPDjk)

30 Art? Really?

Posted by: teh Wind at December 26, 2013 11:35 AM (B3WUC)

31 Trayvon died for my mortal sin of being a cracka.

Posted by: dananjcon at December 26, 2013 11:35 AM (wmU4G)

32 you don't need much talent to pass yourself off as an "artist" All you need is a staple-gun and a scrotum.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2013 11:35 AM (7kUkN)

33 Somehow I'm guessing we won't see a depiction of Trayvon as mohammed for the 2014 Ramada season.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 26, 2013 11:35 AM (8ZskC)

34 Why do I have to share this planet with sub-humans?

Posted by: torabora at December 26, 2013 11:35 AM (WLbax)

35 Remember that female professor from Switzerland who was arrested a few months back? When she was a student at Claremont Colleges, she told her friends that a guy raped her. So, they kidnapped him, hacked him up with a machete, and left him in pieces along the highway. That's a weird group of friends to have.

Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 26, 2013 11:36 AM (Qev5V)

36 >>> Don't trust white-Hispanics and God loves a working man. See a doctor and get rid of it,

Posted by: Steve 'Lasonia' Martin at December 26, 2013 11:36 AM (Ua6T/)

37 What if Jesus was lying there bleeding? My real answer? "We likely would have been in the crowd screaming 'Give us Barabbas!'" It's real easy, across the span of 2000+ years, to say "Oh, we'd have been disciples, and would have been faithful to the end." Bull crap. Precisely one of his apostles (note: not Peter) stayed near-ish to him the whole time. The others all scattered. Now, with that little piece of tripe out of the way- maybe this "artist" should bother to learn the facts in the case. This is not only offensive to all Christians, it should also be offensive to blacks (Oh, it's not *your fault* you're all bloodthirsty animals) and 2nd Amendment supporters (All guns are evil!).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:37 AM (PYAXX)

38 In the case of Zimmerman vs St Trayvon: They are both bad horses and a pox on both their houses

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2013 03:32 PM (t3UFN

Come on Nevergiveup. Even if Zimmerman is a Obama supporting douche he is in no way the same as the wannabe thug , drug dealing thief Martin. Zimmerman was a helpful neighbor who tried to keep his neighborhood safe until circumstances turned that upside down.

Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 11:37 AM (m2CN7)

39 So Trayvon was a Jewish carpenter?

Who knew?

Posted by: dananjcon at December 26, 2013 11:37 AM (wmU4G)

40 Whoa. . .

So EDGY!

Posted by: looking closely at December 26, 2013 11:37 AM (6Q9g2)

41 Poor guy had to stretch to find something culturally relevant with respect to Herod. If only there were some state-supported killing of millions of innocent babies to rail against.

Posted by: AMDG at December 26, 2013 11:37 AM (t7OO0)

42 21 Trayvon Martin is almost like Jesus. He turned Arizona Ice Tea into Purple Drank Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 03:33 PM (m2CN7) I lol'd.

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2013 11:37 AM (zoehZ)

43 What about Trayvon's life parallel's Jesus? If you believe Trayvon's innocent, then their lives were both taken without cause. That's it. Was Trayvon's ministry thoughtful and instructive and Earth-changing? Nope, no ministry. Was Trayvon divine, giving up his life voluntarily to erase our sins? Pfft. Was Trayvon able to break the bands of death, allowing all of us to overcome death and sin through his Redemptive power? Nope. So they're more different than alike. You might call it a hasty generalization fallacy.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 26, 2013 11:38 AM (IoTdl)

44 That's real retarded, sir.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel [/i] [/b] at December 26, 2013 11:38 AM (5ikDv)

45 So, they kidnapped him, hacked him up with a machete, and left him in pieces along the highway. That's a weird group of friends to have. I think you misspelled "awesome." <-- this post made with ~12% Kidding

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:38 AM (PYAXX)

46 "I come to find out people donÂ’t really like people gettinÂ’ shot,Â” Zachary said with a chuckle. Â“They may not agree what to do about it, but they agree itÂ’s a bad thing."
Sometimes not.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2013 11:38 AM (wMHFj)

47 "I thought this would be more controversial, but I come to find out people donÂ’t really like people gettinÂ’ shot,Â” Zachary said with a chuckle.
..........
No shit, Sherlock.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 11:39 AM (f9c2L)

48 I saw the SubHumans open for Social Distortion! Really.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2013 11:39 AM (7kUkN)

49 That's a naÃ¯vetÃ© not Nativity scene

Posted by: The Hickster at December 26, 2013 11:39 AM (TI3xG)

50 Lacking actual religious foundations, but still having occasional inextinguishable sparks of religious impulse requiring an outlet, the modern institutional left indulge in symbolic sanctification (if not outright divinification) of things and people which strike their fancy.

You see it with the cult of Gaia worship among the ecoholics.

You see it with the deliberately posted "halo" photo iconography of Obama.

And you now see the ridiculous transformation of the self-described "NO LIMIT N___A" into the NO LIMIT SAVIOR. I guess I missed the part in the Gospels where Jesus was socking back "purple drank", socking with his fists anyone who looked at him funny, and engaging in residential burglary as a profitable sideline.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 26, 2013 11:39 AM (gqT4g)

51 I missed the part in the Gospels where Jesus jacked the Pharisees' big screen TVs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 26, 2013 11:39 AM (8ZskC)

52 I remember when the jury was out and people were laying all over the courthouse lawn with their hoodies and soda cans and having friends take their photos and then post them on the internet. When it got rightfully mocked, then they yelled raaaccciiisssttt!

Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 26, 2013 11:39 AM (Qev5V)

53 I wonder if he's had to implant a GPS device in St. Trayvon.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 26, 2013 11:39 AM (wNF3N)

54 Is that "Zachary" in the pic? Because he looks just like a guy who washed my windshield with dirty newspapers while I was waiting to get on the eastbound 10.
Posted by: Cicero
........
What? You think crafting nativity scenes at "progressive" churches pays money?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 11:40 AM (f9c2L)

55 >>> Sometimes not. Damn Skippy!

Posted by: William Munny at December 26, 2013 11:40 AM (Ua6T/)

56 "I thought this would be more controversial, but I come to find out people donÂ’t really like people gettinÂ’ shot,Â” Zachary said with a chuckle. That line is so condescendingly offensive it's hard to put into words. Apparently in Liberal La-la-land, we really are just bloodthirsty hicks who would shoot you as soon as look at you.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:40 AM (PYAXX)

Btw honkeys, Gawker piece on least influential writers of 2013 is pretty damn funny.

How can I search the blog. I'm trying to find the Blurred Lines post. The very best that I can remember. Thanks

Posted by: prescient11 at December 26, 2013 11:40 AM (tVTLU)

58 here's something to maybe cheer some of you up:

http://tinyurl.com/ntyxkxb

Posted by: Mallfly at December 26, 2013 11:41 AM (bJm7W)

59 Zimmerman is like King Herod because he didn't want no black messiahs being born and taking away jobs from Hispanics.

Posted by: Rev Al at December 26, 2013 11:41 AM (DrC22)

60 Oh FFS! These people are sick.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at December 26, 2013 11:41 AM (zDsvJ)

61 People enjoy nativity scenes and they like to show their children them. What does a child gain from seeing this crap?

Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 26, 2013 11:42 AM (Qev5V)

62 That would make Jenteel what, Mary Magdelene?

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2013 11:42 AM (fsLdt)

63 "I thought this would be more controversial, but I come to find out people donÂ’t really like people gettinÂ’ shot,Â” Zachary said with a chuckle. Too many of the people who support Trayvon wouldn't mind if Zimmerman were shot.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 26, 2013 11:42 AM (IoTdl)

64 Zachary described that when looking for pictures of Trayvon "one of the teenager lying dead on the pavement particularly tore at him. 'What if Jesus was lying there bleeding to death? I'd ask how in the hell one can get from point A to point B there, but I already know the answer- I'm rayciss.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 11:42 AM (7ObY1)

65 The three wise men shouldve been the three white people that have died from the knockout game.

Posted by: The Drizzle at December 26, 2013 11:43 AM (ysCLj)

66 I'd be more impressed if his creche had Rachel Jeantel on her iPhone in the background.

Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 26, 2013 11:43 AM (Qev5V)

67 The grail of Arizona ice tea, the hoodie of Turin, and the skittles of destiny.

Posted by: wooga at December 26, 2013 11:43 AM (2qbmc)

68 What does a child gain from seeing this crap? Truth.

Posted by: Douchy Liberal Answer[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 26, 2013 11:43 AM (IoTdl)

69 The Jews have the Torah. The Christians have the New Testament. This church has public polling.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 11:43 AM (XUKZU)

70 Really, there's just one thing you need to ask yourself in all thisÂ…. http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 26, 2013 11:44 AM (JpFMR)

71 Church Displays Nativity Scene With Hoodie-Wearing, Bleeding Trayvon Martin as its Jesus Jesus got high a lot did he?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 26, 2013 11:44 AM (yz6yg)

72 Zimmerman didn't kill St. Trayvon. Glock killed St. Trayvon.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 11:44 AM (XUKZU)

I was just thinking that the title of the previous post could have been cut and pasted onto this one. Just sayin'

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 26, 2013 11:44 AM (BZAd3)

74 Since Sharpton and company have designated us as the "new blacks", we approve of this sick , public display of co-victim Trayvon.

Posted by: GLAAD [/i] [/b] at December 26, 2013 11:44 AM (5ikDv)

75 Jesus got high a lot did he? Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 26, 2013 03:44 PM (yz6yg I was gonna grant eternal salvation... but then I got high.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:45 AM (PYAXX)

76 if Mary an Joseph had a son he wouldn't look like Trayvon

Posted by: Avi at December 26, 2013 11:45 AM (kcF49)

77 17 Isaiah 5:20 explains all of this. The late Ronnie James Dio's take: The world is full of Kings and Queens Who blind your eyes and steal your dreams It's Heaven and Hell, oh well And they'll tell you black is really white The moon is just the sun at night And when you walk in golden halls You get to keep the gold that falls It's Heaven and Hell, oh no!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 11:45 AM (7ObY1)

78 21 Trayvon Martin is almost like Jesus. He turned Arizona Ice Tea into Purple Drank Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 03:33 PM (m2CN7) That's some funny right there. I'll give the artist one thing, he portrays Trayvon as a full-grown adult and not a pre-pubescent waif.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2013 11:45 AM (T0NGe)

79 The Three Wise Men could have been The Three Stoners in the 7/11.

Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 26, 2013 11:45 AM (Qev5V)

80 The grail of Arizona ice tea, the hoodie of Turin, and the skittles of destiny. Serious question: Does anyone believe that the Holy Grail, Shroud of Turin, or Spear of Destiny are actually miraculous objects? IE containing some Heavenly power.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 26, 2013 11:45 AM (2hTlI)

81 Glock killed St. Trayvon. Kel-Tec

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 26, 2013 11:46 AM (7ObY1)

82 Posted by: GLAAD at December 26, 2013 03:44 PM (5ikDv)

I really think they could have stuck Matthew Shephard in there somewhere.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 26, 2013 11:46 AM (8ZskC)

83 Church Displays Nativity Scene With Hoodie-Wearing, Bleeding Trayvon Martin as its Jesus well at least their heads were covered like observant Jews

Posted by: Avi at December 26, 2013 11:46 AM (kcF49)

Impotence takes many forms.

George Zimmerman is still a free man, and Trayvon is still dead.

Nothing this guy does is going to change that.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2013 11:46 AM (xCw24)

85 Meanwhile Israel is freeing murders and the pali scum are firing missiles into Israel as far as Ashdod from gaza. Hey I know let's give em a State

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2013 11:46 AM (t3UFN)

86 Jesus be old school, Trayvon be new school.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 26, 2013 11:46 AM (aDwsi)

87 That's exactly what happened. Jesus attacked me and knocked me to the ground, and I crucified him by accident.

Posted by: Pontius Pilate at December 26, 2013 11:46 AM (DrC22)

88 Huge pileup on the PA Turnpike.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 26, 2013 11:47 AM (2hTlI)

89 I suggest that people contact the church and give your theological objections as Christians: http://www.claremontumc.org/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2013 11:47 AM (BC6cY)

90 hat's exactly what happened. Jesus attacked me and knocked me to the ground, and I crucified him by accident. Posted by: Pontius Pilate at December 26, 2013 03:46 PM (DrC22) Thread winner right there.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 26, 2013 11:47 AM (yz6yg)

91 "I thought this would be more controversial, but I come to find out people don't really like people gettin' shot," Zachary said with a chuckle. "They may not agree what to do about it, but they agree it's a bad thing."

Actually, people don't mind others gettin' shot one bit. Turns out lawful citizens like getting punks, thugs, criminals and whatnot gettin' shot all the time. They also agree that it's a good thing quite often.

It depends on the "victim." Which Martin was not.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 26, 2013 11:47 AM (eHIJJ)

92 "That would make Jenteel what, Mary Magdelene?"

Damn, you're right. The parallels are astounding.

Particularly the part in the traditional gospels where Mary Magdalene learned from Twitter that Jesus had been crucified, tweeted merely "RIP Jesus" with no particular upset or alarm, and promptly went out shoe shopping. Then later claimed she had been hospitalized in acute distress.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 26, 2013 11:48 AM (gqT4g)

I'll give the artist one thing, he portrays Trayvon as a full-grown adult and not a pre-pubescent waif.

Aww shit......

Posted by: John Zachary -- vagrant artist at December 26, 2013 11:48 AM (fsLdt)

94 48 I saw the SubHumans Slaaaaaaaaaave...to my dick!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at December 26, 2013 11:48 AM (R5qgD)

95 Now THIS is art: http://goo.gl/hapjuu

Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at December 26, 2013 11:48 AM (Qev5V)

96 This was the Methodists, right? ~~God~~ Satan knows what monument to bad taste the Episcopalians will construct to keep their prog cred at the forefront.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 26, 2013 11:48 AM (SbF3x)

97 So they're more different than alike. You might call it a hasty generalization fallacy. Posted by: bonhomme
...........
Oh c'mon. That little scamp Jesus ran away at 12 yrs old and was found at the Temple schooling the elders..

So,, jeez.. it's like Jesus and Trayvon led parallel lives almost!

And.. although the Bible doesn't mention it, I could betcha Skittles were involved.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 11:48 AM (f9c2L)

98 and here's something to disgust you (saw this via gateway pundit):

http://tinyurl.com/qxh5r27

Posted by: Mallfly at December 26, 2013 11:49 AM (bJm7W)

99 30 Art? Really? Posted by: teh Wind at December 26, 2013 03:35 PM (B3WUC) Yep. That's what art is now. This is why I don't cry when art programs get cut in schools.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2013 11:49 AM (T0NGe)

100

I did this one with Nelson Mandela but I liked it so I will just change the name and repost.

Trayvon Martin walks into a bar.

The bartender is scared shitless since Trayvon Martin is dead.

Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 11:49 AM (m2CN7)

101 This was the Methodists, right? God Satan knows what monument to bad taste the Episcopalians will construct to keep their prog cred at the forefront. Posted by: Captain Hate at December 26, 2013 03:48 PM (SbF3x) Before I read the article I thought it was the Episcopalians.

Posted by: Vendette at December 26, 2013 11:50 AM (Y6+7w)

102 23 18 If Trayvon is Jesus, then that makes meÂ…. Posted by: Barack Obama at December 26, 2013 03:32 PM (DrC22) Jewish?

Posted by: Fig Newton at December 26, 2013 11:50 AM (UDPvg)

103 This was the Methodists, right? God Satan knows what monument to bad taste the Episcopalians will construct to keep their prog cred at the forefront. Remember the good old days when Christians could snicker at the Unitarians as the "Yeah, believe whatever" religion? Good times. Good times.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:51 AM (PYAXX)

104 Check out that freaky-deeky acidriffic star burs background, whoa. Then again, Johnny did name his yuletide eggnog "Brown Gravy," in honor of the Patron Saint of Bad Acid Trips, Jerry Garcia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldoaglz7Qcg

Posted by: 13times at December 26, 2013 11:51 AM (fGPLK)

105 Not only stupid and wrong, but stuff like this has become, on and around Christmas and Easter, utterly predictable, thus utterly boring, and thus about as far from truly transgressive as you can get.

Posted by: Rich Fader at December 26, 2013 11:52 AM (pZ0kE)

106 I remember Trayvon's version of the sermon on the mount, he stood on top of a car pointing at his tats. I still tear up thinking about it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 26, 2013 11:52 AM (P1WNR)

107 I especially like the way the blood is used to prop up the slouching mannequin.

Posted by: Michaelangelo at December 26, 2013 11:52 AM (DrC22)

108 You all saw it! That orphanage attacked me!

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at December 26, 2013 11:53 AM (PgNb6)

109 Eat of these skittles, for they are my body...If'n you don't, I'll bust a cap in you, cracka!

Posted by: St. Trayvon at December 26, 2013 11:53 AM (1Rgee)

110 Honestly though, I kind of like the title. Mom & Dad sort of did "give" Tray-table away, what with not actually rearing him properly and all.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 11:54 AM (PYAXX)

111 To be fair, Purple Drank was pretty popular in Jesus' day.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 26, 2013 11:54 AM (ECZYG)

112 "I did this one with Nelson Mandela but I liked it so I will just change the name and repost."

I'm still utterly gobsmacked about the shopkeeper in the UK who posted to social media that he was going to rename his computer to "Nelson Mandela", because it "takes so long to shut down".

Dragged out in irons by the Old Bill, thrown in the back of a police van, arraigned on "hate crime" charges, computer and other shop contents confiscated.

That's where we're headed in the USA. We're just a few years further back on the slippery slope to friendly fascism than the UK are.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 26, 2013 11:54 AM (gqT4g)

113 What is this the First Claremont Church of Rape, Murder, and Highway Robbery? Â‘What if Jesus was lying there bleeding to death? I don't recall the Scripture passage where Jesus tried to beat someone's brains out on the pavement. Can you enlighten me?

Posted by: Mannie at December 26, 2013 11:54 AM (GqPmz)

114 Let He who is without Sin throw the first punch.

Posted by: St Trayvon at December 26, 2013 11:55 AM (7kUkN)

115 Only a matter of time before some edgy artist makes a Piss Trayvon sculpture on the taxpayers dime, right?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2013 11:55 AM (g1DWB)

116

Posted by: torquewrench at December 26, 2013 03:54 PM (gqT4g)

Hopefully we will not let things like that stand. The defense of Phil Roberston has given me some hope.

Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 11:56 AM (m2CN7)

117 I remember when St. Tray held up the money lenders at the Temple. Bling-bling.

Posted by: seamrog at December 26, 2013 11:57 AM (J8TNb)

118 'If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can imagine.'

Posted by: St Trayvon at December 26, 2013 11:57 AM (7kUkN)

119

115 -

Quiet you! That would be offensive to some people. The right kind of people.

Posted by: NEA at December 26, 2013 11:57 AM (xCw24)

120 If I never hear the name trayvon again it will be to soon

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2013 11:57 AM (t3UFN)

121 I'm still utterly gobsmacked about the shopkeeper in the UK who posted to social media that he was going to rename his computer to "Nelson Mandela", because it "takes so long to shut down". That's funny too because it's ambiguous. Maybe he meant Mandela took too long to die, which is the interpretation they took. Maybe too he meant Mandela couldn't be "shut down" politically, which might be considered a positive comment.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 26, 2013 11:57 AM (2hTlI)

122 St Trayvon would have chased the money lenders out of the temple but kept the money.

Posted by: Mallfly at December 26, 2013 11:57 AM (bJm7W)

123 by the way, is that a real person i the hoodie? I wonder how much he gets paid to sit there

Posted by: Mallfly at December 26, 2013 11:58 AM (bJm7W)

124 Meanwhile I've been sitting here all day with about 10 people in the building. At least I have free range of the Christmas chocolate hoard...

Posted by: Caliban at December 26, 2013 11:58 AM (DrC22)

125 St Trayvon would have chased the money lenders out of the temple but kept the money. St. Trayvon would have spent a lot more "quality time" with the woman at the well.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 26, 2013 11:59 AM (yz6yg)

126

118 -

That's because you are tripping balls on PCP, and can't feel anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2013 11:59 AM (xCw24)

127 I'm calling my computer Oprah.

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2013 11:59 AM (fsLdt)

128 You know Jesus was one of the Galilee Crips, right?

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2013 11:59 AM (7kUkN)

129 Gawd. St. Trayvon's most valuable service to mankind is the one he's performing now--fertilizer. Let's see Mr. Artist McPrissypants build a tribute to that.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at December 26, 2013 11:59 AM (080XV)

130 okay, prostitution is legal in France, but not street-walking.

you also can't take out an ad in Le Newspapier saying, "I will chomp your weiner for ten francs."

subtle, you must be; tres subtil, mes amis...

Posted by: Grandmaster Handstand at December 26, 2013 12:00 PM (omBWL)

131 "This is why I don't cry when art programs get cut in schools."

Eleventy.

I read a piece about the awful fate of adjunct college English professors doomed forever to the professional ghetto, never earning tenure. And as with art, my cynical first impulse was to ask, "Uh, precisely how much English are they professing?"

At UCLA today, undergrads can major in English without reading word one of Milton, or Chaucer, or Shakespeare, or any of the traditional canon of the literature of the language.

What has replaced that learning is instead the whole grab bag of modern lefty social hokum. Race theory. Queer theory. A new one by me that I should have seen coming, "Imperial theory," where you know who are the Empire to be revolutionarily subverted.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 26, 2013 12:00 PM (gqT4g)

132 I'm calling my computer Oprah. It's fat, slow, and always wrong?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 12:00 PM (PYAXX)

133 What a smug prick. His picture just exudes smugness and prickitude.

Posted by: whoever at December 26, 2013 12:01 PM (zu9Ee)

134 >>> I'm calling my computer Oprah That's not f... Yeah, it really is.

Posted by: MS Office at December 26, 2013 12:01 PM (Ua6T/)

135
"I come to find out people donÂ’t really like people gettinÂ’ shot,Â” Zachary said with a chuckle.

He's wrong if you're wearing the white hat and aiming for a Viet Cong, Pathet Lao, or Muslim Brotherhood punk. Lock and load!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 26, 2013 12:01 PM (pJF+c)

136 What if Jesus was lying there bleeding to death? I was kind of thinking of that,' Zachary said.

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Oh.... fuck you too Zack. You'd have been yelling "Barabbas" the day before.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 26, 2013 12:01 PM (nELVU)

137 "Lets face it, Jesus loved his weed." Mark 3:14

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 26, 2013 12:02 PM (P1WNR)

138

Sick and twisted.
This looks like a hate crime to me.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 26, 2013 12:02 PM (IXrOn)

139 "Lets face it, Jesus loved his weed." Mark ~~3:14~~ 4:20 Posted by: Dr Spank at December 26, 2013 04:02 PM (P1WNR) FIFY

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 26, 2013 12:03 PM (yz6yg)

140 DSK raped St. Trey...

Posted by: Puffy Judd at December 26, 2013 12:03 PM (QuZie)

141 I am reminded of 2008 when Garrison Keillor, on Prairie Home Companion, reworded a fine old Christmas Carol into a paen to Obama. I was (and remain) sickened: -------------------- In the bleak midwinter when the sky was low Children walking homeward wishing for the snow Christmas lights in windows all along the way In the bleak midwinter at the close of day. In the bleak midwinter, at the Christmas feast A family leaves Chicago and travel to the east For a public mansion in Washington, D.C. In a time of trouble and festivity. All across the nation, sea to shining sea, People watch the passage of that family And our loving wishes go out to them there All the nation breathes a silent hopeful prayer In the cold gray dimness of a winter dawn People rise and shine and put the coffee on There are lists to make and stockings to be filled And a house of gingerbread someone must build. In a grey December waiting for the sun People rise at dawn and do what must be done In the cold and darkness look around and hear Singing in the streets and angels coming near. Angels descending, voices bright and clear.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 26, 2013 12:03 PM (aDwsi)

142 >>> one of the Galilee Crips Those boys are dangerous.

Posted by: Dimmesdale Pirhanna at December 26, 2013 12:03 PM (Ua6T/)

143 I'm calling my computer Oprah -------------- I have actually used stick-on letters to name my leaf vacuum 'Monica'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 26, 2013 12:05 PM (aDwsi)

144 Angels descending, voices bright and clear.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 26, 2013 04:03 PM (aDwsi)

The Chocolate Jesus proclaims "Let me be clear".

Posted by: fixerupper at December 26, 2013 12:05 PM (nELVU)

145 Hey Zach, Isn't it great that there's a really safe major religion to insult?

Fucking coward.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 26, 2013 12:05 PM (8ZskC)

146 okay, prostitution is legal in France, but not street-walking. In some ways it's legal in the US too. I don't mean the Bunny Ranch either. Consider the pr0n actor. With some minor oversight they are paid for sex. So if I set up some seedy "production company" and fill out some paperwork, I can "hire" myself as an actor, and pay pros to have teh secks with me on camera. I don't even have to publish the video. If that's too much effort, I can peruse any local paper and find an "escort" to pay for "their time" and *wink wink* something might happen between consenting adults.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 26, 2013 12:05 PM (2hTlI)

147 Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 26, 2013 04:03 PM (aDwsi) You love I I love me! Cult of per-son-al-ity!

Posted by: Barkey at December 26, 2013 12:05 PM (PYAXX)

148 'Blessed are the Blunt Rollers. For they are the children of God.'

Posted by: St. Trayvon at December 26, 2013 12:05 PM (7kUkN)

149 141 I am reminded of 2008 when Garrison Keillor...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 26, 2013 04:03 PM (aDwsi)
These folks inhabit a parallel universe. Or is it a perpendicular one?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2013 12:06 PM (wMHFj)

150 These folks inhabit a parallel universe. Or is it a perpendicular one? I think it intersects at an obtuse angle.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 12:07 PM (PYAXX)

151 Oohh perpendicular Universe. I like it.

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2013 12:07 PM (fsLdt)

152 I am reminded of 2008 when Garrison Keillor, on Prairie Home Companion, reworded a fine old Christmas Carol into a paen to Obama. I was (and remain) sickened:

I've yet to understand why anybody pays attention to that wheezing miserable turd.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 26, 2013 12:08 PM (SbF3x)

153 Garrison Keillor: S whistler.

Seriously, Kellor's S's are like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Posted by: 13times at December 26, 2013 12:08 PM (fGPLK)

154 "That would make Jenteel what, Mary Magdelene?"

And with that you are not only very snort-worthy funny, but have proven to be ten times the honest intellectual that these people consider themselves to be.

Honestly, for years in Bible college I had it drummed into me that the Bible is not a "springboard" to use as an excuse to segway into a social issue. Just teach the God Blessed text with minimal editorial work and let the Word do the work.

Here they don't even need a springboard. They start immediately in an alternate universe.

If I am ever in a position where I need to be healed or raised from the dead after a car accident, please God don't let any of these total idiots be the first responders.

Posted by: AE at December 26, 2013 12:08 PM (HYceo)

155 Eric Roberts sure has let himself go, hasn't he?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2013 12:08 PM (xCw24)

156 I hope Sara Palin shits in his mouth.

Posted by: Mirror Universe Niblet at December 26, 2013 12:09 PM (QuZie)

157 "And behold, the 3rd seal was broken and it was Jesus thy Savior smoking a fatty the Lord had provideth to him, and it was good." Revelations 11:9

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 26, 2013 12:09 PM (P1WNR)

158 What is wrong with people?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at December 26, 2013 12:10 PM (r+7wo)

159 What a smug prick. His picture just exudes smugness and prickitude. Posted by: whoever at December 26, 2013 04:01 PM (zu9Ee) I bet he doesn't own a car and rides a bicycle everywhere.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at December 26, 2013 12:10 PM (XIxXP)

160 President Obama has signed into law a comprehensive defense bill that cracks down on sexual assault in the military. ???? And how the fuck ( so to speak) do you do that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2013 12:10 PM (t3UFN)

161 but I come to find out people donÂ’t really like people gettinÂ’ shot Keep the shootings confined to Chicago where they belong!

Posted by: The MFM at December 26, 2013 12:10 PM (FcR7P)

162 What is wrong with people?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at December 26, 2013 04:10 PM (r+7wo)

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Im beginning to think there are folks born today without a soul.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 26, 2013 12:11 PM (nELVU)

163 And God said......light there be some light and shit.

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2013 12:11 PM (fsLdt)

164 122 St Trayvon would have chased the money lenders out of the temple but kept the money. Money-changers. They weren't lending money, they were exchanging Roman money for temple money.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2013 12:11 PM (T0NGe)

165 Here they don't even need a springboard. They start immediately in an alternate universe. Lib Bible college: 1. Throw away anything that wasn't "said" by Jesus. 2. Throw away anything you don't believe was said or done by Jesus. 3. Project your personal beliefs on the two verses remaining.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 26, 2013 12:11 PM (IoTdl)

166 President Obama has signed into law a comprehensive defense bill that cracks down on sexual assault in the military. Wait, what? Did he make more illegal or something? Now it's double-plus illegal?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 12:11 PM (PYAXX)

167 "For one thing, the backdrop to the Christmas story is the slaughter by King Herod of all infants in Bethlehem, a barbarous attempt to kill the Messiah."

Yes, The Man, made flesh via GZ, was sent out to slaughter the infant Messiah and baby TM got caught in crossfire.

While we're at it, I got a splinter working in the yard last weekend. It's like Nature was out to crucify me.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 26, 2013 12:11 PM (eHIJJ)

168 I like the part where the 3 bangers present him with precious gifts of Sensimilla, a Gold Grill and Purple Drank. So uplifting.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2013 12:11 PM (g1DWB)

169 Thrilled to find out that Trayvon Martin died for my sins. I did not know that.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at December 26, 2013 12:11 PM (r+7wo)

170 At this rate we will eventually long for the simple days when an "artist" pissed on a crucifix.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 26, 2013 12:12 PM (DmNpO)

171 Since - via DoD data - the majority of sexual assaults in the military are man on man gay on straight rapes, will thisssssth pisssssth off the GLAAD bags?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 12:12 PM (QuZie)

172 Trayvon died fo' yo' sins, fool!

Posted by: Jenteal the Hutt at December 26, 2013 12:12 PM (5fSr7)

173 I bet he doesn't own a car and rides a bicycle everywhere. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at December 26, 2013 04:10 PM (XIxXP) Ever notice how the crappiest cars on the road always seem to have an abundance of liberal-themed bumper stickers on them? Coincidence? I think not. In this case, correlation seems to be causation.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 26, 2013 12:12 PM (yz6yg)

174 Funny, I recall Jesus trying to lay an ass whipping on any creepy assed cracker white hispanics.

Posted by: maddogg at December 26, 2013 12:12 PM (xWW96)

175 Which Biblical scholar should I be listening to, John Zachary, A&E, or Jesse Jackson? I have many questions!

Posted by: t-bird at December 26, 2013 12:13 PM (FcR7P)

176 3. Project your personal beliefs on the two verses remaining.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 26, 2013 04:11 PM (IoTdl)

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I always liked "suffer the little children".....

Posted by: Roman Polanski at December 26, 2013 12:13 PM (nELVU)

177 Mmmm...shootin people is bad mmmmmkay?

Posted by: John Zachory at December 26, 2013 12:13 PM (wmU4G)

178 Shit. I don't recall.

Posted by: maddogg at December 26, 2013 12:13 PM (xWW96)

179 "Thou shall not be followed" Exodus 20:1

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 26, 2013 12:13 PM (P1WNR)

180 I like the part where the 3 bangers present him with precious gifts of Sensimilla, a Gold Grill and Purple Drank. So uplifting. **** #ATrayvonMartinChristmas

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 26, 2013 12:13 PM (DmNpO)

181 Trayvon died fo' yo' sins, fool! Posted by: Jenteal the Hutt at December 26, 2013 04:12 PM (5fSr7) That's retarded, sir.

Posted by: Jenteal of Tarsus[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 26, 2013 12:13 PM (yz6yg)

182 I read a piece about the awful fate of adjunct college English professors doomed forever to the professional ghetto, never earning tenure. It's a good thing. English departments are bloated (as are my precious math departments) because they teach service courses. As a result, a lot of academic crap has been subsidized by English 101s. It's good that adjuncts and lecturers are teaching those classes.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2013 12:13 PM (T0NGe)

183 or #AVeryTrayvonChristmas

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 26, 2013 12:13 PM (DmNpO)

184 I like the part where the 3 bangers present him with precious gifts of Sensimilla, a Gold Grill and Purple Drank. So uplifting. Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2013 04:11 PM (g1DWB) I understand Ice T penned the first Treymas Carols.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at December 26, 2013 12:14 PM (XIxXP)

185 St. Trey... I have decided to become an atheist. Where is his grave, so I can piss on it.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 12:14 PM (QuZie)

186 "And then Trayvon turned the water into Purple Drank, and it was good."

Posted by: Jenteal the Hutt at December 26, 2013 12:14 PM (5fSr7)

187 You could put this up on public land and the ACLU would not even bleat.

Posted by: AE at December 26, 2013 12:14 PM (HYceo)

188 It was George that was "crucified." Where is his stupid, unchristian nativity display? People don't like it when people get shot... Really? But Syria, Sudan, Congo, Somalia, Nigeria, Indonesia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Malaysia, Libya, and all the rest are just page 14, below the fold. Bull.

Posted by: Tom Moeller at December 26, 2013 12:15 PM (Uq6g4)

189 Like Christ, Trayvon was an expert practitioner of the ground-and-pound. It's a little known fact.

Posted by: Confirmation Bias at December 26, 2013 12:15 PM (vjFu3)

190 112 Dragged out in irons by the Old Bill, thrown in the back of a police van, arraigned on "hate crime" charges, computer and other shop contents confiscated. That's where we're headed in the USA. We're just a few years further back on the slippery slope to friendly fascism than the UK are. Posted by: torquewrench at December 26, 2013 03:54 PM (gqT4g) Doesn't sound too friendly to me.

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2013 12:15 PM (zoehZ)

191 Actually, some people need shooting. If St. Trayvon hadn't got it then, one of his homies would have done him eventually. Then there wouldn't have been a problem.

Posted by: maddogg at December 26, 2013 12:15 PM (xWW96)

192 I see an ass in the manger...

Posted by: t-bird at December 26, 2013 12:16 PM (FcR7P)

193 This is why I stopped identifying myself as Christian. Too many whackos, too many denominations claiming they are the one true church, etc. If organized religion has this all figured out, there should only be one Christian church. Westboro Baptist, we have a problem. The rules, whims and theological ruminations of men have no sway in my relationship with God. A human intermediary simply introduces more opportunity for error.

Posted by: Meremortal, ugh at December 26, 2013 12:16 PM (1Y+hH)

194 114 Let He who is without Sin throw the first punch. Posted by: St Trayvon at December 26, 2013 03:55 PM (7kUkN) Another thread winner candidate.

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2013 12:17 PM (zoehZ)

195 "For one thing, the backdrop to the Christmas story is the slaughter by King Herod of all infants in Bethlehem, a barbarous attempt to kill the Messiah." And, um... that whole "kill all the infants" thing didn't happen until later. It wasn't until the Wise Men showed up and then snuck away. So you can't really call that the "backdrop to the Christmas story," since it didn't happen until sometime *after* Jesus was actually born.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 12:17 PM (PYAXX)

196 Now THAT'S a Nativity scene right out of my own shop!

Posted by: Kermet Gosnell at December 26, 2013 12:18 PM (FcR7P)

197 171 Since - via DoD data - the majority of sexual assaults in the military are man on man gay on straight rapes, will thisssssth pisssssth off the GLAAD bags? Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 26, 2013 04:12 PM (QuZie) Another fun statistic, the majority of rape victims in the US are male. That's right. Most rape victims are male. Of course, you have to include prisons to get to that statistic, but I found it pretty astounding.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2013 12:18 PM (T0NGe)

198

7 "I thought this would be more controversial,"

Ah, the perils of a world where the preening narcisists try to out edgy each other on a daily basis. Eventually you reach the point of general public indifference. Congratulations douchebags.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 26, 2013 12:19 PM (DQP0t)

199 new post up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 26, 2013 12:19 PM (DmNpO)

200 Of course, you have to include prisons to get to that statistic, but I found it pretty asspounding.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2013 12:19 PM (V2m7a)

201 I don't even have to publish the video. Posted by: bonhomme at December 26, 2013 04:05 PM (2hTlI) You don't even need a camera. You've heard of paid rehearsals, right?

Posted by: Meremortal, ugh at December 26, 2013 12:20 PM (1Y+hH)

202 193 Westboro Baptist, we have a problem.
Posted by: Meremortal, ugh at December 26, 2013 04:16 PM (1Y+hH)
They are as much a church as the church of the subgenius.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2013 12:20 PM (wMHFj)

203 It all seems snarky and giggle worthy until you get on the other side.

Then my guess is it's not all that funny anymore. I am pretty sure God can beat anyone at the irony game.

Posted by: Marcus at December 26, 2013 12:20 PM (3d63f)

204 I'm so old I remember art needing talent, not just imagination.

Posted by: Joe at December 26, 2013 12:20 PM (QFnhZ)

205 Of course, you have to include prisons to get to that statistic, but I found it pretty astounding.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2013 04:18 PM (T0NGe)

That explains why the number one item on the Slammer Christmas wish list is soap-on-a-rope.

Posted by: maddogg at December 26, 2013 12:20 PM (xWW96)

206
And Travon commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass. And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties. And when he had taken the five blunts and the two Forties, he looked up to heaven, and lit the blunts, and gave them to his crew to set before them; and the two Forties divided he among them all. And they did all party on , and were filled. And they took up twelve baskets full of roaches , and a multitude of empty Forty Malts did litter the shore of the Sea of Galilee.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 26, 2013 12:20 PM (nELVU)

207 If St. Trayvon hadn't got it then, one of his homies would have done him eventually. Then there wouldn't have been a problem. Maybe. Trayvon's dad apparently had some Crip connections and he was going down that road. But it seems that the Zimmerman incident was Trayvon's first foray from punk to thug. It's clear he didn't have a lot of experience or else he'd've thought of the gun. Instead, Trayvon, who was into cheap drugs and petty theft decided he would beat up a pudgy mall cop type who was following him around.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2013 12:22 PM (T0NGe)

208 Of course, you have to include prisons to get to that statistic, but I found it pretty astounding. Posted by: AmishDude
..........
Oh, c'mon.. that's simply "taking a relaxing shower"... who said anything about "rape"?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2013 12:24 PM (f9c2L)

209 And not that it makes it any better but seeing that the population of Bethlehem was probably less than 300 and the number of children two years old or younger would have been about 6 or 7 , this would have not been big news when it happened.

Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 12:24 PM (m2CN7)

210

37: Precisely one of his apostles (note: not Peter) stayed near-ish to him the whole time. The others all scattered.

John I believe.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 26, 2013 12:24 PM (DQP0t)

211 >>But it seems that the Zimmerman incident was Trayvon's first foray from punk to thug.

And his last.

Posted by: looking closely at December 26, 2013 12:24 PM (PwGfd)

212 >>Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 04:17 PM (PYAXX) <<

I thought the same thing.

But then I remembered, facts, history and truth don't matter to the ignorant.

Posted by: Marcus at December 26, 2013 12:26 PM (3d63f)

213 I remember Trayvon's version of the sermon on the mount, he stood on top of a car pointing at his tats. I still tear up thinking about it.
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Yeah, except Trayvon was planning on inheriting money, credit cards, and jewelry from the meek.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 26, 2013 12:26 PM (XUKZU)

214 blasphemy! and I denounce m'self as not pc. tho I be weak of faith, but this is too-muckin-futch.

Posted by: K,tnx,bye at December 26, 2013 12:28 PM (RPDkq)

215 Does the nativity scene have any quotes from Isaiah about Trayvon being: "called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2013 12:31 PM (BC6cY)

216 John I believe. Correct.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 26, 2013 12:32 PM (PYAXX)

217

"Where could we get enough ingredients to make Tha Purple Drank in this remote place for such a crowd"

And Trayvon asked "How much Arizona Ice Tea do you have?"

"One can" his disciples answered "and a few small bags of Skittles"

Trayvon told the crowd to sit on the ground. He took the Arizona Ice Tea and the Skittles and, after he had given thanks, give Tha Purple Drank to his disciples and they to the crowd.

"Sip it slow" said Trayvon "slow"

Posted by: Achmed at December 26, 2013 12:34 PM (qfNFY)

218 "Artists" no longer seek truth, beauty, and elegance. That actually takes talent.

No, they seek to shock the masses and get a fat paycheck.

Art and architecture schools are lousy with assholes like this.

Posted by: Jaws at December 26, 2013 12:36 PM (4I3Uo)

219 Apparently in Liberal La-la-land, we really are just bloodthirsty hicks who would shoot you as soon as look at you. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. I'm offended. I would NEVER shoot someone without looking at them. Violates the 4th rule of firearms safety.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 26, 2013 12:38 PM (c2oll)

220 Douchebags gotta douche.

Posted by: Chelsea Chelsea at December 26, 2013 12:41 PM (FmL6Z)

221 And if you want to bring a little notice to the District Superintendent (who's the supervisor for the Riverside District of the California Pacific Conf. of the United Methodist Church) church contact Rev. Dr. bau N Dang calpaceastdistrict@gmail.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2013 12:41 PM (BC6cY)

222 And here's Dr, Dang's phone number. Address: 4845 Brockton Ave., Riverside, CA 92506 Phone: (951) 686-2890 // Fax: (951) 686-2894 Email: calpaceastdistrict@gmail.com Apparently lasy year's nativity scene of the Claremont UMC had to do with gay marriage

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2013 12:50 PM (BC6cY)

223 I left the United Methodist Church, which had been my family's denomination since a mid-19th Century schism in the independent country church they helped found, partly because of the continuing slide into leftist pseudo-Christian liberalism. I need no further confirmation of the wisdom of that decision but if I did, their toleration of crap like this would do the trick.

Posted by: Adjoran at December 26, 2013 12:54 PM (473jB)

224 It would be wrong of me to hope that some hoodie-wearing thug beats this "artist" senseless, wouldn't it? So I'm not going to hope that.

Posted by: Null at December 26, 2013 12:57 PM (xjpRj)

225 The UMC is much like other mainline denominations, You will find within them very conservative churches and very liberals ones. I expect people who are United Methodist who are not very leftist are pretty appalled by it, but notice of this nativity scenes seems to be hitting the airways today. You can bet the church and the Supervisor will be hearing from people soon.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2013 12:59 PM (BC6cY)

226 I think there's a good chance that TM was doing his own knockout game. If this was so, then someone getting shot was a good thing. Where I come from, as a man, you don't ambush people.

Posted by: RIK at December 26, 2013 01:01 PM (Y+gkm)

227 You could probably find a way to contact the artist John Zachary too, but he'd probably be thrilled that his work is so controversial, so maybe it's better to ignore him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2013 01:04 PM (BC6cY)

228 Trayvon died for somebody's sins, but not mine....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at December 26, 2013 01:06 PM (qT1kU)

229 Given that Travon "looks like the son" that Obama could have had, is it any wonder people are putting him in nativity scenes?

Posted by: Emperor Norton II at December 26, 2013 01:07 PM (MlqTY)

230 At least Mary Magdalene could read cursive

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2013 01:10 PM (b7yum)

231 "For one thing, the backdrop to the Christmas story is the slaughter by King Herod of all infants in Bethlehem, a barbarous attempt to kill the Messiah."
Actually, NO. That would be the backdrop to the visit by the Wise Men, an event occurring after the events of Christmas - most likely up to two years after Christmas. It's bad enough the artist slanders the birth of the Savior, but the reporter has to go and demonstrate his ignorance, as well.

Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2013 01:10 PM (4zdFI)

232 Beautiful Claremont is the city between me and CAC

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2013 01:12 PM (b7yum)

233 "And not that it makes it any better but seeing that the population of Bethlehem was probably less than 300 and the number of children two years old or younger would have been about 6 or 7 , this would have not been big news when it happened.

Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2013 04:24 PM (m2CN7)"

Not sure where you get your reasoning, but it was likely larger than that, and even a town of 300 (in that day and time) would probably have had *at least* a dozen very young children.

Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2013 01:14 PM (4zdFI)

234 2Ti 3:1

But know this, that in the last days grievous times shall come.