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November 27, 2013

Of Course: Obama Delivers an Obamacare Tax Break to His Union Pals, While Increasing the Tax on Those Not Excepted
— Ace

It's my nature, said the socialist cronyist Chicago pol scorpion.

From the Washington Examiner:

The shift will raise the cost of the tax for those who do pay to $44 a year. It had previously been $42. In essence, the change is forcing those who donÂ’t get the exception to pay an extra $2 for those who do.

Obama acts quickly to spare his union buddies a $42 per year tax, but meanwhile intends the non-union middle class to pay up to $10,000 more per year for insurance. And offers them no exception at all.

Posted by: Ace at 03:46 PM | Comments (157)
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1 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at November 27, 2013 03:49 PM (kUgpq)

2 *Bangs head against wall* *Repeats*

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 03:49 PM (MpP9p)

3 Once again he got exactly what he wanted. More proof of how stupid he is.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 03:49 PM (0LHZx)

4 Why doesn't anyone challenge him doing this in Court?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 03:49 PM (t3UFN)

5 Where's that paper route kid on a bike from "Better Off Dead" screaming "TWO DOLLARSZZZZZZ!!!"

Posted by: Lizzy at November 27, 2013 03:49 PM (JRmiD)

6 And the middle class.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at November 27, 2013 03:49 PM (kUgpq)

7 Ah enough of this bullshit for one night.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 03:51 PM (t3UFN)

8 4 Why doesn't anyone challenge him doing this in Court? Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 07:49 PM (t3UFN) Has anyone challenged any of his extra-legal actions?

Posted by: BignJames at November 27, 2013 03:51 PM (j7iSn)

9 Why doesn't anyone challenge him doing this in Court? Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 07:49 PM (t3UFN) And someone should. Raising the "fee" could be considered something that Congress should do. If you want to laugh here, go ahead.

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 03:52 PM (MpP9p)

10 Screw this politics BS. I'm gonna knit. I ll be back later.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 27, 2013 03:52 PM (N/cFh)

11 OK, I'm gonna drink for a while. Thanksgiving prep and all that. BTW, Ace, you're en fuego. This'll be here all weekend while the MFM embargoes the real news.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at November 27, 2013 03:52 PM (0HooB)

12 This works here too;

"....it's been a revelation to me. I've never fully realized how a small mind, allied to limitless ambition and without scruple could destroy an entire country full of clever men."

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 27, 2013 03:52 PM (P/gm7)

13 to quote the lady who will sobbing sunday: 'just unpeople"

Posted by: navycopjoe at November 27, 2013 03:52 PM (JFrBt)

14 4 Why doesn't anyone challenge him doing this in Court? Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 07:49 PM (t3UFN) ____________ Because deep down the GOP wants Obamacare to stay. Here is a preview of what 2015 will look like if the GOP wins the senate. "A Republican lawmaker running for Senate in Georgia is calling for improvements to ObamaCare, breaking with his party's proclaimed policy to simply let the law self-destruct. Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) on Monday questioned whether the Republican tactic to let the law fail was "responsible," and touted a bill he proposed to fix a portion of the law as a path forward on ObamaCare."

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 03:53 PM (0LHZx)

15 I'm shart and I want respect!

Posted by: Fredo 'soggypants' Obama at November 27, 2013 03:53 PM (3SzC3)

16 Because Fuck You.

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at November 27, 2013 03:54 PM (Gk3SS)

17 Because deep down the GOP wants Obamacare to stay. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 07:53 PM (0LHZx) Get your head examined.

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 03:54 PM (MpP9p)

18
This is why all your schadenboners are way premature.

90% of people who get hurt by obamacare are people who don't support obama and Democrats in the first place.

Posted by: soothsayer and col frank slade at November 27, 2013 03:56 PM (Fely/)

19 And some "republicans" are going to trust this lazy bastard to enforce an immigration reform bill. Doomed I tell ya!

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 27, 2013 03:56 PM (P1WNR)

20 Get your head examined. Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 07:54 PM (MpP9p) _________ Did you not read what the GOP candidate from Georgia of all places wants to do? He wants to "Fix" Obamacare. Not kill it. Fix it. But yeah, the GOP is super totes united to kill it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 03:56 PM (0LHZx)

21 $42 per year? They can afford it. Someone is going to have to start challenging him on all this BS. I think if anyone will do so, Mark Levin might. HeÂ’s got Landmark Legal and we should implore Mark to do something about it since Congress refuses to acknowledge it!

Posted by: Carol at November 27, 2013 03:57 PM (z4WKX)

22 At least this way the children won't have to hear about oral sex.

Posted by: Dewey at November 27, 2013 03:57 PM (zu1j7)

23 Did you not read what the GOP candidate from Georgia of all places wants to do? He wants to "Fix" Obamacare. Not kill it. Fix it. But yeah, the GOP is super totes united to kill it. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 07:56 PM (0LHZx) It's one person.

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 03:57 PM (MpP9p)

24 And furthermore, he's in the House.

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 03:58 PM (MpP9p)

25 This is why all your schadenboners are way premature. 90% of people who get hurt by obamacare are people who don't support obama and Democrats in the first place. Posted by: soothsayer and col frank slade at November 27, 2013 07:56 PM (Fely/) ___________ Yep. Another example of how stupid Obama is....he fucked up his opponents while helping his supporters, all with tax dollars. What a dummy!! This guy couldn't figure his way out of a paper bag, right?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 03:58 PM (0LHZx)

26 Once again he got exactly what he wanted. You're pretending it was a genius move that he was able to convince himself to do this? Did he have late night discussions in which he tricksily outmaneuvered his opposition to himself?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2013 03:59 PM (fDc31)

27 Great. can't wait for my small business owning tax evading "progressive" father to tell me how great Obamacare is tomorrow.

Posted by: Tom Thumb at November 27, 2013 03:59 PM (iuRFC)

28 24 And furthermore, he's in the House. Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 07:58 PM (MpP9p) ________ Yes in the house and running for the senate. And from Georgia for crying out loud. If a Georgia Republican can't be counted on to fight Obamacare, do you think a Republican from NY or PA or OH will be counted on?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 03:59 PM (0LHZx)

I guess all the politicians who ran Detroit into the ground were soooper smart, too, the way they always got what they wanted.

Posted by: Warden at November 27, 2013 03:59 PM (E1Pa2)

30
He's right; Republicans will not run on repeal. Republicans will not take away health insurance coverage even it means just one person is covered under obamacare.

Do you really think Republicans stand a chance at trying to take away that pre-existing part of obamacare? No way, jose. They won't even try.

Posted by: soothsayer and col frank slade at November 27, 2013 04:00 PM (GcwH1)

31 Why doesn't the SCOAMTT just go ahead and say that he's going to reward his friends and punish his enemies? Oh, his thing already did? Then what's the surprise? He just makes this sh!t up as he goes along.

Posted by: Justamom at November 27, 2013 04:00 PM (Sptt8)

32 Yes in the house and running for the senate. And from Georgia for crying out loud. If a Georgia Republican can't be counted on to fight Obamacare, do you think a Republican from NY or PA or OH will be counted on? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 07:59 PM (0LHZx) Tell me, is he the only GOPer running for the nomination? Not even close.

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 04:00 PM (MpP9p)

33 I recall something aboot rewarding your friends and other trivial nonsense .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 27, 2013 04:00 PM (XWw96)

34 I'm not going to worry about it. Four grams of soma ought to do it.

Posted by: Dewey at November 27, 2013 04:01 PM (zu1j7)

35 Well I hope the backlash results in people outlawing unions for public employees, outlawing ANY union from using any percentage of mandatory dues for PACs etc etc. I don't have a lot of hope for this to happen, but turning on another group doesn't fall outside my cynical view of how people are likely to behave so it is possible.

Posted by: palerider at November 27, 2013 04:01 PM (dkExz)

36 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... *snort* Huh? What? zzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: Reince Priebus at November 27, 2013 04:01 PM (LI48c)

37 27 Great. can't wait for my small business owning tax evading "progressive" father to tell me how great Obamacare is tomorrow. Laugh at him. Don't argue. Just laugh. Long, hard, loud and obnoxious.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2013 04:02 PM (S2Yx+)

38 Once again he got exactly what he wanted. More proof of how stupid he is.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 07:49 PM (0LHZx)

Dude. He's the dumbest motherfucker ever to sit in the oval office in any capacity, including the cleaning staff. He gets exactly what he wants because the press is made up of people JUST LIKE HIM, as are 52 percent of the American Public. The voters are so fucking stupid they think Biden is a great choice for VP, for G-d's sake! And the press will never give anything negative the full business that would be needed to take this asshat down, because he's their kindred spirit.

This shit ain't hard, Moo Moo. Use your brain.

Posted by: FYNQ at November 27, 2013 04:02 PM (TM1p8)

39 36 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... *snort* Huh? What? zzzzzzzzzzzz Posted by: Reince Priebus at November 27, 2013 08:01 PM (LI48c) __________ That's not fair. Reince is putting in 80 hour weeks getting amnesty passed. He can't be expected to also keep abreast of Obamacare happenings. He's just a man, not a machine!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 04:03 PM (0LHZx)

40 We'll all be okay, because John McCain has just about decided to run for re-election.

Posted by: Dewey at November 27, 2013 04:04 PM (zu1j7)

41 He's going to build the dang fence if he gets re-elected.

Posted by: Dewey at November 27, 2013 04:04 PM (zu1j7)

42 >>27 Great. can't wait for my small business owning tax evading "progressive" father to tell me how great Obamacare is tomorrow.

Laugh at him. Don't argue. Just laugh. Long, hard, loud and obnoxious.

Posted by: AmishDude

Yep.

Ridicule. There's no talking point that can counter it. The bonus is that it's sure to piss off the O-bots to the point of turning them into raging nutjobs.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 27, 2013 04:05 PM (S8glN)

43 Of course, the asshole Moo Moo has to infect this thread, too. Hey, won't it be great when the next Republican president decides to not enforce Obamacare anymore? Our super smart president does that shit now with laws he doesn't like, so precedent is set.

Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 04:06 PM (pcgW1)

44 Let them (my donor class) eat cake.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 27, 2013 04:07 PM (UvR6d)

45 These are the GOP leaders who will fight Obamacare: McCain Boner McConnell The dude from Georgia who wants to fix it Reince "Compromise and Amnesty" Priebus Yeah...that's going to work out well, I'm sure the whole thing will be repealed in no time.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 04:07 PM (0LHZx)

46 They are only important in the totality.

Posted by: Dewey at November 27, 2013 04:07 PM (zu1j7)

47 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 08:07 PM (0LHZx) Get a grip.

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 04:08 PM (MpP9p)

48 Hey, won't it be great when the next Republican president decides to not enforce Obamacare anymore? Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 08:06 PM (pcgW1)
Just as Eisenhower didn't enforce Social Security or Nixon didn't enforce Medicare ?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 27, 2013 04:08 PM (BrrWI)

49 Hey Amish Dude- Your dad sounds double dumb to support the SCOAMTT and evade taxes. Sorry. How did you not follow in his footsteps?

Posted by: Justamom at November 27, 2013 04:09 PM (Sptt8)

50 Hey, won't it be great when the next Republican president decides to not enforce Obamacare anymore? Our super smart president does that shit now with laws he doesn't like, so precedent is set. Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 08:06 PM (pcgW1) ___________ LOL! As if a Republican would ever do that. If (big if) there's a GOP president in 2017 it will be Christie. Do you think there's even a 0.0001% chance Christie would do anything to harm Obamacare? You're dreaming. He'll "fix" a few things here and there. Just like Bush "fixed" Medicare. Prediction: Republicans will re-institute the filibuster in 2015 is they gain control.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 04:09 PM (0LHZx)

Wait ...

So the GOP doesn't really want to fight Obamacare? And that proves that Obama is really smart because he outfoxed them?

Seems to me that it's not hard to win if the other team is throwing the game.

Posted by: Warden at November 27, 2013 04:09 PM (E1Pa2)

52 The Dems up for re-election are running scared, man. Stock up on popcorn.

Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 04:09 PM (pcgW1)

53 What are Republicans going to do about this other than bitch? Nothing becasue Obama is beyond their political level. He is playing 10th dimensional chess, while Republicans play checkers.

Posted by: See all Angles at November 27, 2013 04:10 PM (h8Ay2)

*dreamy eyes*

Obama's so smart! *Swoon*

*FAP FAP FAP FAP*

Posted by: Rm. Oom Oom at November 27, 2013 04:10 PM (LI48c)

55 Posted by: See all Angles at November 27, 2013 08:10 PM (h8Ay2) This thread is going into the Twilight Zone.

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 04:10 PM (MpP9p)

56 Never belonged to a union. Never got a tattoo. Feeling pretty good about myself...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 27, 2013 04:11 PM (GJUgF)

57 The Republican plan will get released about the same time as Al Gore's chakra.

Posted by: Dewey at November 27, 2013 04:11 PM (zu1j7)

58
You made your point, Moo Moo.

Posted by: soothsayer and col frank slade at November 27, 2013 04:11 PM (Fely/)

59 53 What are Republicans going to do about this other than bitch? Nothing becasue Obama is beyond their political level. He is playing 10th dimensional chess, while Republicans play checkers. Posted by: See all Angles at November 27, 2013 08:10 PM (h8Ay2) ________ No way man. Haven't you heard? Obama's got an IQ of 55. That's why he wins every battle with conservatives who are super duper smart. Or so I keep reading on blogs...

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 04:11 PM (0LHZx)

60 MooMoo- Don't you have some other blog to visit where you get to be right every night? They called to say they miss you and want you back.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 27, 2013 04:11 PM (4Mv1T)

61 Your dad sounds double dumb to support the SCOAMTT and evade taxes. Sorry Not my dad, I was quoting.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2013 04:11 PM (S2Yx+)

62 Hey Bertram, it's 2013. Update your calendar. Different era, different people. Try to keep up.

Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 04:12 PM (pcgW1)

So which is it, Moo Moo: Obama outwits, outlasts and outplays Republicans at every turn or they share his goals?

Can't be both.

Posted by: Warden at November 27, 2013 04:12 PM (E1Pa2)

64 32 Yes in the house and running for the senate. And from Georgia for crying out loud. If a Georgia Republican can't be counted on to fight Obamacare, do you think a Republican from NY or PA or OH will be counted on? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 07:59 PM (0LHZx) Tell me, is he the only GOPer running for the nomination? Not even close. Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 08:00 PM (MpP9p) This is the asshole that whined about "only" making 172k/yr.

Posted by: BignJames at November 27, 2013 04:12 PM (j7iSn)

65 Obama's a shrewd guy who knows how to play the game. Calling him stupid or lucky or whatever is the surest way to keep losing to him.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 04:13 PM (0LHZx)

66 57 The Republican plan will get released about the same time as Al Gore's chakra. Which one will be more horrifying?

Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2013 04:14 PM (Ua6T/)

67 No way man. Haven't you heard? Obama's got an IQ of 55. That's why he wins every battle with conservatives who are super duper smart. Or so I keep reading on blogs... Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 08:11 PM (0LHZx) A retarded kid who shits on the centerpiece when the family's over for thanksgiving gets away with it too. I thought you might find the comparison apt.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2013 04:15 PM (S2Yx+)

68
I nominate this oldie but goodie as the official AoS Thread Song:

http://tinyurl.com/2kz6km

My Boobs Are OK

Posted by: soothsayer and col frank slade at November 27, 2013 04:15 PM (KeJAW)

69 This is the asshole that whined about "only" making 172k/yr. Posted by: BignJames at November 27, 2013 08:12 PM (j7iSn) _________ Wrong guy. That was Phil Gingrey, also from Georgia. Gingrey is a doctor though, so yeah $172K a year is significant pay cut. Although it was beyond idiotic to actually say that out loud.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 04:15 PM (0LHZx)

70 59

You come from the reality based universe like I do. I feel sorry for the people here who believe the lies they are told by people like Palin and Rush Limpdick. They really believe the Republican Party and the Tea Party are an electoral Juggernaut. They really believe Obama is stupid and Hillary is a washed up hag. They will be in for shock in 2014 and 2016 as they were in 2012.

Posted by: See all Angles at November 27, 2013 04:15 PM (EBt8X)

71 Tens of millions of people losing their existing policies. Smart policy, right? Tens of millions of people will have to pay much more for new policies with higher deductibles. Awesome move, Obama. That's how Democrats roll.

Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 04:15 PM (pcgW1)

72 Hey Bertram, it's 2013. Update your calendar. Different era, different people. Try to keep up. Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 08:12 PM (pcgW1) Honey, I'm so far behind that when I read "Bertram" I think of Jane Austen's "Mansfield Park."

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 04:15 PM (MpP9p)

73 Watch out, lefties. The tax cows may stampede...

Posted by: elaine at November 27, 2013 04:16 PM (GNZ0/)

74 Wait, she IS a hag.

Posted by: Dewey at November 27, 2013 04:16 PM (zu1j7)

75 (EBt8X) We have a troll!

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 04:16 PM (MpP9p)

76 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 08:15 PM (0LHZx) He can be replaced too.

Posted by: BignJames at November 27, 2013 04:16 PM (j7iSn)

77 They really believe Obama is stupid and Hillary is a washed up hag. They will be in for shock in 2014 and 2016 as they were in 2012. And 2010.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2013 04:17 PM (S2Yx+)

78
btw, that's tonight's AoS password: My boobs are ok.

When someone says Halt! Who goes there?

You say: My boobs are ok.

Posted by: soothsayer and col frank slade at November 27, 2013 04:17 PM (vanqS)

79 Whether the SCOAMTT is "smart" or not, he's getting his way. Odd that the SCOAMTTcare rollout is such a disaster, even if it was designed to fail into single payer. It's almost as if his whole administration is comprised of incompetents who rose through ideology or something.

Posted by: Justamom at November 27, 2013 04:17 PM (Sptt8)

80 Doesn't the Constitution specifically state that taxes are to be levied uniformly, as in, Congress and the executive cannot specify groups or persons to be hit by, or exempted from taxes? Vagueness is ok, as in, if you make below a certain amount you pay nothing, if you make over a certain amount you pay more. But specifically exempting those who sport a union membership sounds pretty unconstitutional to me after Obamacare was ruled to be a tax... Oh right, that shit don't matter no more.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 27, 2013 04:17 PM (6BnTn)

81 71 Tens of millions of people losing their existing policies. Smart policy, right? Tens of millions of people will have to pay much more for new policies with higher deductibles. Awesome move, Obama. That's how Democrats roll. Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 08:15 PM (pcgW1) ___________ The vast majority of those tens of millions are not Democrats to begin with. On the other hand the vast majority of those who will get free insurance via Medicaid or heavily discounted insurance via subsidies are Democrats (or will soon be Democrats for life). So yes, it's fucking brilliant politically speaking for the long term. Dems may lose 2014. But they've created millions of new life long Democrats, all paid for with higher taxes (via higher premiums) on Republicans.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 04:18 PM (0LHZx)

82 so I guess equal protection under the LAW is out for good , eh?

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 04:18 PM (nqBYe)

83
I figure it's easier than a secret handshake.

Plus it's fun to say shibboleth.

Posted by: soothsayer and col frank slade at November 27, 2013 04:18 PM (vzLhi)

84 re 45: well, Moo Moo, there's your answer. The party is still controlled by people who think that in 2010 "the Republicans won" not "the Republicans won because of the tea party people." It's unfortunate that the party is still controlled by people who would rather be in charge of the minority party than take a back seat to others in the majority party; who are more concerned with how they appear in the MSM than how they appear to the base (unlike the Dems, the Repub base is full of people who don't want to be told what to think); and who sometimes think that (in some variation) socialism (or whatever it's called this year) is inevitable so there's no reason to do more that try to slow it down a little.

Bob Dole was the kind of old Repub who thought it was a great victory if the Repub minority prevented the Dems from raising taxes as much as they wanted to. There are still too many of his kind around.

And for a lot of voters, the news on the MSM must be true, because why would they lie to us..?

ugh, I gotta actually do work now.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 04:19 PM (bJm7W)

85 @65

Some people can't accept reality. If the Teabaggers were not such assholes, I would feel sorry for them. Obama must be thankful everyday who his opponents are.

Posted by: See all Angles at November 27, 2013 04:20 PM (EBt8X)

86 UNION MEMBERS -- 2012 In 2012, the union membership rate--the percent of wage and salary workers who were members of a union--was 11.3 percent, down from 11.8 percent in 2011, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. The number of wage and salary workers belonging to unions, at 14.4 million

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 04:20 PM (nqBYe)

87 oh, and I have no idea how to explain the 2008 elections, except that the people in charge seemed to expect they were going to lose badly, so they went along with what they thought was inevitable.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 04:21 PM (bJm7W)

88 65 Obama's a shrewd guy who knows how to play the game. Calling him stupid or lucky or whatever is the surest way to keep losing to him.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 08:13 PM (0LHZx)

Bullshit. He's stupid and he's protected by a palace guard that is stronger and more dishonest than Pravda and the soviets could ever have imagined. He isn't particularly lucky, either. Witness 404Care's utter failure. He does illegal shit all the time, and has people in the press who've dug up the dirt on all of his political enemies who are just as dishonest as he is who are willing to destroy anyone who balks at his lawlessness.

He's going down hard in the next year. Count on it. And it ain't going to be just on Reggie.

Posted by: FYNQ at November 27, 2013 04:21 PM (TM1p8)

So yes, it's fucking brilliant politically speaking for the long term. Dems may lose 2014. But they've created millions of new life long Democrats, all paid for with higher taxes (via higher premiums) on Republicans.

****************

Oh, taking over health care was Obama's big, smart idea? Strange. I thought surely SOMEONE tried to do that in the 90's

Posted by: Warden at November 27, 2013 04:21 PM (E1Pa2)

90 oh man it's a lefty getting His freak on.

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 04:22 PM (nqBYe)

91 I could win a chess game if my opponent gives away his queen, rooks and bishops in the first 20 moves. That doesn't mean I'm a grand master.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at November 27, 2013 04:22 PM (1j9qS)

92 (h8Ay2) and (EBt8X) need to be troll-busted.

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 04:22 PM (MpP9p)

93 Oh, taking over health carewas Obama's big, smart idea? Strange. I thought surely SOMEONE tried to do that in the 90'sPosted by: Warden at November 27, 2013 08:21 PM (E1Pa2)
Truman wanted to do it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 27, 2013 04:22 PM (BrrWI)

94 Pissing off tens of millions of voters of both parties is smart! Ok, got it.

Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 04:22 PM (pcgW1)

95 @ 84

The Tea Party is joke.

Posted by: See all Angles at November 27, 2013 04:22 PM (h8Ay2)

96 Willow! How are you? I hope you had a wonderful day.

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 04:22 PM (MpP9p)

97 imagine how the MSM would have reacted if W Bush had apologized for not being able to speak Austrian.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 04:23 PM (bJm7W)

Obama is making lots of new democrats....

From people that are in unions...

And from people likely already on a lot of other welfare...

Oh yeah Obama sure is a genius by making inroads on those two constituency that does not usually vote Democrat.

Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2013 04:23 PM (LI48c)

99 it's such assholishness to not want govt to coerce every free dollar out of your family budget.

Kids say thanks!

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 04:23 PM (nqBYe)

100

Posted by: Biff Boffo at November 27, 2013 04:23 PM (1j9qS)

101 Vendette, cleaning day , along with watching the tykes for a few hours.
preparations for Tday is although fun, very stressful.

How are things over therr?

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 04:24 PM (nqBYe)

102 @ 92

You can't handle the reality Moo Moo and I bringing around here. You can isolate yourself all you want, but you can never escape reality.

Posted by: See all Angles at November 27, 2013 04:24 PM (h8Ay2)

103 It's just a glitch.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at November 27, 2013 04:24 PM (JQuNB)

104 re 95:
2010 -- tea party
2012 -- establishment Republicans

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 04:25 PM (bJm7W)

105

Look at Moo Moo crediting Obama for his big, new, innovative take over of America's health care system.

That's only been a Progressive goal since the early 1900s.

Like I said, Moo Moo, pick up a book some time. Your ignorance is embarrassing.

Posted by: Warden at November 27, 2013 04:25 PM (E1Pa2)

106 re 103: so tell us what happened in 2010. I can wait.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 04:26 PM (bJm7W)

107 Yes, zombie comrades, the government knows what is best for you. We will relieve you of the responsibility of having to make life-changing choices. Sounds great until the opposition party is in power, right?

Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 04:26 PM (pcgW1)

108 yes handing over a 1/6 of the american economy to people that can't set up a website properly is awesome!

but hey, i got me some awesome power over the little people so YAY!

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 04:27 PM (nqBYe)

109 How are things over therr? Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 08:24 PM (nqBYe) Rainy, windy. My condo building has a huge water problem so I've been hanging out at the SO's house a lot (he's overseas so it's all mine).

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 04:27 PM (MpP9p)

110 @99

The Tea Party has nothing to do with economic issues. It is a reactionary cultural resentment movement.

Posted by: See all Angles at November 27, 2013 04:28 PM (h8Ay2)

111 78 btw, that's tonight's AoS password: My boobs are ok. When someone says Halt! Who goes there? You say: My boobs are ok. Posted by: soothsayer and col frank slade at November 27, 2013 08:17 PM (vanqS) --- But they aren't.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 27, 2013 04:28 PM (N/cFh)

112 A glitch here and a glitch there, and pretty soon you're talking about a real problem.

Posted by: Sen. Everett Dirkson at November 27, 2013 04:28 PM (JQuNB)

113 Well the whole reason to join a union is to score special treatment for your self and you gang. That's the point!

Posted by: Sleepy Time Temp Agency at November 27, 2013 04:28 PM (DbEoL)

114
This is a shitty Thanksgiving Eve here at AoS, this year.

Somebody put up a funny turkey pic post!

turkey lurkey doo
turkey lurkey da

Posted by: soothsayer and col frank slade at November 27, 2013 04:28 PM (vzLhi)

115 Nood!

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 04:29 PM (MpP9p)

116 hey remember when trolls were all worried about Republicans being All Up in their uterus's?
Now they invite them in and even ask them to be paid for by everyone else!

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 04:29 PM (nqBYe)

117 Oh, please, I beggeth, will someone expound profanely on the perfidy of one or another faction of conservatism? We never get enough of that, and it's super entertaining and informative the four hundred thousandth time around. Here's an idea, if you've posted it a hundred times before, don't post it again. We get it, you're just doing your little thing. Do it alone.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 27, 2013 04:29 PM (ZshNr)

118 You call that a glitch? THIS is a glitch!

Posted by: Crocodile Obamadee at November 27, 2013 04:30 PM (JQuNB)

119 oh yeah saved by nood post.

sure all angles. purpost whatever Your truth is.

anyway on to new post

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 04:30 PM (nqBYe)

120
There's no nood.

Show me your papers.

Posted by: soothsayer and col frank slade at November 27, 2013 04:30 PM (KwX0v)

121 In order to max out benefits of the current regime, I am forming a religion - the Islamish - which will be unionized. The line is forming, membership is limited, don't miss out!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 27, 2013 04:31 PM (vHRtU)

122 Vendette , sorry about Leaks?

are you doing dinner tomorrow?

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 04:32 PM (nqBYe)

123 111 When my deductible goes up to $8000, I'll blame it on greedy corporations and Tea Baggers. Go Obama! Posted by: See all angles of Obama's cock'n'balls at November 27, 2013 08:28 PM (h8Ay2) And you call yourself a member of the reality-based community? I'm betting the LIVs won't see things your way.

Posted by: elaine at November 27, 2013 04:32 PM (GNZ0/)

124 I don't think that transparency means what they think it means.

Posted by: ontherocks at November 27, 2013 04:32 PM (NIwox)

125 sooth yes thee is. a tday thread , let's go.

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 04:32 PM (nqBYe)

126 The employer mandate is still hanging like a guillotine blade. If that goes into effect, the current kerfluffle will look like child's play.

Of course, I fully expect Zero to push it back one more year. If he were smart, that is....

Posted by: Biff Boffo at November 27, 2013 04:33 PM (1j9qS)

127 Ted Cruze single-handedly showed us that Obama would rather shut down the government than delay the individual mandate for one year. Then he should us that Obama would rather shut down the government than force Congress to live under Obamacare with no special subsidies. Then he showed us that Obama would rather shut down the government than have him and his family live under Obamacare. But yeah, those Tea Party people are awful, huh?

Posted by: Marmo at November 27, 2013 04:33 PM (pcgW1)

128 Vendette , sorry about Leaks? are you doing dinner tomorrow? Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 08:32 PM (nqBYe) My building's boiler ruptured, among other things. Dinner will be OK!

Posted by: Vendette at November 27, 2013 04:34 PM (MpP9p)

129 Mr. moo moo, at least you've come clean and admitted that Demovrats are nothing more than a pack of parasites incapable of providing for their own needs.

Posted by: Metal god at November 27, 2013 04:35 PM (6E7sq)

130 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 27, 2013 07:58 PM (0LHZx) You know if you really want to dazzle all of us rubes with your wisdom, go to one of the sites that host blogs and create your own. That way you can opine on issues until your heart is content, and I'm sure with your brilliance, you will have the A number 1 blog in the whole entire world. Until that time, we kind of have to tell you that you kind of come off as a cock-knuckle.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at November 27, 2013 04:35 PM (BXLPR)

131 Mr. moo moo, at least you've come clean and admitted that Democrats are nothing more than a pack of parasites incapable of providing for their own needs.

Posted by: Metal god at November 27, 2013 04:36 PM (6E7sq)

132 105

In 2012 the Tea Party forced a Moderate Republican like Mitt Romney to become "severely conservative." Mitt spent most of the election insulting women, minorities, gays and young people to please the Tea Party. Obama used this to his advantaged and whup Mitt's ass!

Posted by: See all Angles at November 27, 2013 04:39 PM (h8Ay2)

133 128

What are Ted Cruz's favorables? Obama tricked him into the shutdown and made him politically toxic. Cruz was Palinized becasue he was out pf his league taking on the Master of politics!

Posted by: See all Angles at November 27, 2013 04:41 PM (EBt8X)

134 Don't mind me, the so-called troll "A" team is preparing to confront their Republican uncles at their tofu-turkey dinners tomorrow. In the meantime I'll provide the same old stale talking points, for your education.

Posted by: Half assed troll at November 27, 2013 04:44 PM (1j9qS)

135 Dude. He's the dumbest motherfucker ever to sit in the oval office in any capacity, including the cleaning staff. He gets exactly what he wants because the press is made up of people JUST LIKE HIM, as are 52 percent of the American Public. The voters are so fucking stupid they think Biden is a great choice for VP, for G-d's sake! And the press will never give anything negative the full business that would be needed to take this asshat down, because he's their kindred spirit.This shit ain't hard, Moo Moo. Use your brain. Posted by: FYNQ at November 27, 2013 08:02 PM (TM1p Ummm...... what he said.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at November 27, 2013 04:46 PM (DWEgs)

136 re 128: point worth making: why do so many people believe that it's the Repubs who shut down the government? Repub Congress and Clinton? Repub Congress shut down the government! Dem Congress and Reagan or Old Bush? Repub President shut down the government!

Oh, yeah, MSM has never had anything to do with that.

Joe Biden takes about President Roosevelt going on TV in 1929 to talk about the stock market crash? Telling a guy in a wheelchair to stand up? Lying about his law school record? crickets. Tina Fey as Sarah Palin says "From my house you can see Russia"? Palin is dumb!

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 04:49 PM (bJm7W)

137 also re 128: yeah, the tea party people are awful, the key word being "people"

real people support "people's armies" and "people's solidarity" and "people's democratic republics". people who oppose the left are "enemies of the people"

Hail! Salute! Hay foot straw foot hay foot straw foot!

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 04:52 PM (bJm7W)

138 think of Pro Wrestling. The Bad Guy Cheats and the Referee somehow always misses it. The Good Guy cheats and the Ref always catches it; sometimes the Bad Guy claims the Good Guy cheats and the Referee yells at the Good Guy.

Modern American Politics in a short paragraph. You guys can figure it out. Use it as a way of explaining to LIVs you know.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 04:59 PM (bJm7W)

139 oh, me again? The Rapture took place? Glad I already went to the liquor store. Maybe they left the local KFC unlocked (yeah, I'll pay for most of what I'll take... or I'll be an Obama loyalist and just help myself.)

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 05:01 PM (bJm7W)

140 That wrestling analogy is really good.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at November 27, 2013 05:03 PM (1j9qS)

141 139 think of Pro Wrestling. The Bad Guy Cheats and the Referee somehow always misses it. The Good Guy cheats and the Ref always catches it; sometimes the Bad Guy claims the Good Guy cheats and the Referee yells at the Good Guy. Modern American Politics in a short paragraph. You guys can figure it out. Use it as a way of explaining to LIVs you know. Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 08:59 PM (bJm7W) That was beautiful man. Would you like to see my junk?

Posted by: Ric Flair at November 27, 2013 05:03 PM (BXLPR)

142 by the way, stealing is wrong, unless you really need it and the other guy already has more than he needs. Then it's called "Shared Responsibility".

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 05:04 PM (bJm7W)

143 There's a new thread, everyone has been teleported there.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at November 27, 2013 05:04 PM (1j9qS)

144 one man's junk is another man's collectible. Unless you're referring to what I think you're referring to, in which case contact Sandra Flook for details.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 27, 2013 05:05 PM (bJm7W)

145 Flat out unconstitutional. Thanks again, John Roberts.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 27, 2013 05:07 PM (f73Jj)

146 I'm on my 4 Jamison and this is getting good

Posted by: paul the enus at November 27, 2013 05:07 PM (Scx5a)

147 th

Posted by: paul the enus at November 27, 2013 05:08 PM (Scx5a)

148 Obama acts quickly to spare his union buddies a $42 per year tax, but meanwhile intends the non-union middle class to pay up to $10,000 more per year for insurance. And offers them no exception at all. See, this is why I don't comment much about politics any more. Anything I could say to that would either get me banned, or else hauled off into prison.

Posted by: rickl at November 27, 2013 05:16 PM (sdi6R)

149 It is nice that he has set the precedent that the president can set what the union fee will be by fiat. I suggest the next Republican president set it at $5000 per individual and make them go through the courts to get it repealed. Everyone who has benefited under this administration must be punished under the next or there will be lessons learned.

Then maybe a truce can be declared and we can go back to the rule of law.

Posted by: Thatch at November 27, 2013 05:21 PM (qYvEa)

150 In essence, the change is forcing those who donÂ’t get the exception to pay an extra $2 for those who do. Since it's two bucks, no one is going to care, because for much of the public, principles only mean something if a sum of money they're not comfortable with will be taken as a result.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 27, 2013 05:22 PM (VVsZ2)

151 da comrade

Posted by: Shoey at November 27, 2013 05:53 PM (vA94g)

152 30. Got an email from Boner -- saying Obama should ask for a repeal or at least a delay. So I don't think the Republicans are the cavalry. Better look to Mark Levin and citizenry.

Posted by: gracepmc at November 27, 2013 06:30 PM (rznx3)

153 There is no ONT, only Zuul!

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 27, 2013 06:48 PM (v6hyJ)

154 All is proceeding as anyone with a brain could have foreseen.

Posted by: Born Free at November 27, 2013 08:40 PM (xL8Hf)

155 There's a MUCH bigger giveaway to unions written right into the original bill.

ALL Union health plans are automatically 'grandfathered'. The way the HHS wrote the rules, 98% of ALL other plans will be illegal.

Posted by: Callawyn at November 28, 2013 01:28 AM (+7Wfv)

156 How is it that some groups get preferred treatment under the law when it comes to Obamacare? I wish someone with more resources than I, would sue against the ruling of the Union special treatment.

Posted by: Flake at November 28, 2013 05:05 AM (x+JQk)

157 The Democrats are going to wish it was 2010. This sort of stuff is going to make a difference, especially for Democrats in deep red states, and 2014 is going to be ugly.

Unless the GOP nominates a bunch of Senators that want to talk about rape babies and birth control, Reid is going to lose his place and an ObamaCare repeal is going to have to be vetoed by Obama. Repeatedly. And it's only going to piss more and more voter off into 2016.

Posted by: Uniden at November 28, 2013 07:00 AM (pS6g3)

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