August 05, 2013

Of Course: Obama to Give Capitol Hill Staffers an ObamaCare Waiver
— Ace

Perfect.

The Wall Street Journal reports.

President Obama told Democrats in a closed-door meeting last week that he would personally moonlight as HR manager and resolve the issue.

And now the White House is suspending the law to create a double standard. The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) that runs federal benefits will release regulatory details this week, but leaks to the press suggest that Congress will receive extra payments based on the FEHBP defined-contribution formula, which covers about 75% of the cost of the average insurance plan. For 2013, thatÂ’s about $4,900 for individuals and $10,000 for families.

How OPM will pull this off is worth watching. Is OPM simply going to cut checks, akin to “cashing out” fringe benefits and increasing wages? Or will OPM cover 75% of the cost of the ObamaCare plan the worker chooses—which could well be costlier than what the feds now contribute via current FEHBP plans? In any case the carve-out for Congress creates a two-tier exchange system, one for the great unwashed and another for the politically connected.

This latest White House night at the improv is also illegal. OPM has no authority to pay for insurance plans that lack FEHBP contracts, nor does the Affordable Care Act permit either exchange contributions or a unilateral bump in congressional pay in return for less overall compensation. Those things require appropriations bills passed by Congress and signed by the President.

Read the whole thing. Incredible.


Posted by: Ace at 12:10 PM | Comments (304)
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1 Two Americas indeed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 05, 2013 12:11 PM (8ZskC)

2 It's good to be the King. Pull!

Posted by: zsasz at August 05, 2013 12:11 PM (MMC8r)

3
*** tap tap tap tap ***


Hey guys.   Somethings wrong with my Binford 4000 Rage-ometer,

Posted by: fixerupper at August 05, 2013 12:12 PM (nELVU)

4 I'm looking forward to the next Republican president (I know, I know) shelling out federal money to registered Republicans only.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 05, 2013 12:13 PM (8ZskC)

5 If everyone has a waiver, then the ones that don't pay for it all.

Which is what was intended from the beginning. This always was about a politically motivated reward and punishment system run by bureaucrats that no one (who mattered) could escape).

It's all about CONTROL.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 05, 2013 12:13 PM (28TG+)

6 Meanwhile Blue Cross and Aetna pulling out of some states. No biggie! Just let him eat his wafer!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 12:13 PM (baL2B)

7 And now the White House is suspending the law Gee, if we could get the right guy elected, he could just suspend Obamacare entirely, by Obama's own precedent.

Posted by: zsasz at August 05, 2013 12:13 PM (MMC8r)

8 Another day, another rage headache.  I really, really want to punch someone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 05, 2013 12:14 PM (lVPtV)

9 There is no law, only power.

Posted by: George Orwell, Peruvian travel agent at August 05, 2013 12:14 PM (mukPq)

10 Robo-suit A-Rod will save us!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 05, 2013 12:14 PM (ZPrif)

11 Duh.

Posted by: NCKate at August 05, 2013 12:14 PM (nYbxc)

12 This latest White House night at the improv is also illegal.

L'Etat, c'est moi.

Posted by: Barry SCOAMF at August 05, 2013 12:14 PM (/kI1Q)

13

He should be sure they get free phones too.

Posted by: Roy at August 05, 2013 12:14 PM (VndSC)

14 Nothing incredible about this at all. It would be incredible if they did not subsidize

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 05, 2013 12:14 PM (R8hU8)

15 Liberty Tree is thirsty.

Posted by: Thos. Jefferson, Esq. at August 05, 2013 12:14 PM (z6Elp)

16 Blast it all over social media, bring it up at the watercooler. Force your LIV acquaintances to come to grips with the real Obama/Dem Party.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 12:15 PM (ZshNr)

17 Suck it up, Country Class! -- Your Governing Class Betters

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars[/i][/b][/s] at August 05, 2013 12:15 PM (HsTG8)

18 This latest White House night at the improv is also illegal. OPM has no authority to pay for insurance plans that lack FEHBP contracts, nor does the Affordable Care Act permit either exchange contributions or a unilateral bump in congressional pay in return for less overall compensation. Those things require appropriations bills passed by Congress and signed by the President.



Nearly everything this criminal regime does is against the law.  But he knows he is protected by black Democratium which make him impervious to laws.  And that is because the Republican Party is a bunch of useless pussies.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:15 PM (lZvxr)

19 Gee, if we could get the right guy elected, he could just suspend Obamacare entirely, by Obama's own precedent. ----------------------------------- Ooh! I like this idea!

Posted by: Farmer Joe at August 05, 2013 12:15 PM (CyP2Z)

20 And now the White House is suspending the law You know, at least Qaddafi had those kick ass uniforms and the ninja chicks. Just sayin'.

Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 05, 2013 12:15 PM (VtjlW)

21

The executive branch decides which subjects are held to the law, and which are not.  The executive branch decides which laws it will follow, which laws it will ignore, and which laws it will break.

And the 'objective' media will not report the    actual    news.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (vOq2q)

22 Unreal. Where is our country?

Posted by: RM at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (/Frlf)

23

>>>Force your LIV acquaintances to come to grips with the real Obama/Dem Party.

 

 

I have to actually talk to them? Seriously?

Posted by: Roy at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (VndSC)

24 Or will OPM The Middle Class cover 75% of the cost of the ObamaCare plan the worker chooses which could well be costlier than what the feds now contribute via current FEHBP plans? Fixed for accounting accuracy.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (xorT2)

25

Let's hear more about cutting military benefits!

 

Burn, salt, stir, simmer, rinse, repeat.

 

Or something.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (SUKHu)

26 What difference does it make? LIB

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (1M/xn)

27

At least someone pointed out that this isn't legal.

 

Too bad it wasn't a Pubbie. Or anyone   else in DC.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (0HooB)

28 What the hell does "Legal" have to do with anything? This President has been illegal from the git-go, not even having met the eligibility requirements to BE President, and his entire Career before and since leave no doubt as to on which side he stands as regard Legal/Illegal. Laws simply don't apply to him. very piece of his career up TO that point

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (bb5+k)

29 1 Cicero,

Two Presidencies as well...

basically the newsies are waving their dicks in our face on how they spin Presidential behavior....

it'd be a damn shame if the GOP started encouraging people to beat the shit out of the media.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (LRFds)

30 WH spokesman Carney Barker said he is just like Ronald Reagains....

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (lZvxr)

31 I can remember when politicians tried to conceal their contempt for the proles (never very well I might add), but now they really want you to know you are nothing but a third class peon.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (XdnQT)

32

Incredible.

 

 

Is it really?   I would argue that it's not.  It's just par for the course.

 

This latest White House night at the improv is also illegal.

 

Since when has that stopped the Kenyan   from doing what he wants?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 05, 2013 12:16 PM (4df7R)

33 It was more honest in the days when you just paid the king for the right to collect taxes.

Posted by: George Orwell, Peruvian travel agent at August 05, 2013 12:17 PM (mukPq)

34

I just want to see them fine the part time Burger King,  KFC, Dicks Sports, Pro Bass Shop, etc worker who chooses not to join the exchanges.  

 

 

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2013 12:17 PM (m2CN7)

35 The Tree of Liberty is looking like the Monty Python Parrot

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at August 05, 2013 12:17 PM (Pr6hk)

36 Blast it all over social media, bring it up at the watercooler. Force your LIV acquaintances to come to grips with the real Obama/Dem Party. ----------------------- The LIVs around here are impervious to anything that isn't in the Globe or Herald.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at August 05, 2013 12:17 PM (CyP2Z)

37 Which is what was intended from the beginning. This always was about a politically motivated reward and punishment system run by bureaucrats that no one (who mattered) could escape). It's all about CONTROL. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 05, 2013 04:13 PM (28TG+) This. All we workers are to become slaves. Incrementally, you understand.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:17 PM (bb5+k)

38

Another Zero overreach. Can't wait until shithead grants the whole damn country a waiver.

 

On another note:

Wow. Fatassed Sidney Leathers shoots a frigging vid. Just what I wanna see......not. I watched a goat fuck himself in the ear once. That was probably pretty close, and a lifetime dose.

Posted by: maddogg at August 05, 2013 12:17 PM (OlN4e)

39 Ace, what are you surprised at? These bums, these hypocrites, these commie bastards have acted for the last 5 years like the laws do not apply to them, that what's good for thee is not good for me, and they have gotten away with it. So why stop.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 12:18 PM (9Xc5j)

40 If we had an actual opposition party in the GOP, they'd be energetically seizing this and running on it as a populist issue: these D.C. douchebags are exempting their own selves from the crummy health law that they stuck ordinary Joes and Janes with.

If we had an actual opposition party in the GOP.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2013 12:18 PM (gqT4g)

41 Gee, if we could get the right guy elected, he could just suspend Obamacare entirely, by Obama's own precedent. You wouldn't want to alienate moderate independent voters and minorities, would you?

Posted by: George Orwell, Peruvian travel agent at August 05, 2013 12:18 PM (mukPq)

42 They don't even care that we know they lie, cheat and steal. There is no United States. Republic of Texas.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 05, 2013 12:18 PM (Oa0T5)

43 Where are the lawsuits? Guys like Mark Levin talk a good game - where are the lawsuits?

Posted by: naturalfake at August 05, 2013 12:18 PM (n50fF)

44 Democrats remind me of A-Rod

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 12:18 PM (9Xc5j)

45 26 Mama AJ,

Look...who is really sacrificing here?

The US military or the goddamned political class and junior woodchucks there on the hill?

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:18 PM (LRFds)

46 I need an ObamaCare waiver like I need another hole in my head.

Posted by: Ron Brown at August 05, 2013 12:18 PM (Pr6hk)

47 Only 3% of Congressmen became lobbyists in 1947; today 42% of former members of the House and 50% of former senators take lobbying jobs.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 05, 2013 12:18 PM (ZPrif)

48 Hey, media. How do my balls taste?   Good, glad you like them. A little slower please, yes, right there.

Posted by: King Barry at August 05, 2013 12:19 PM (298ij)

49 Clusterfuckeramacare.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, aka Dr. Who, What, Where,When and Why at August 05, 2013 12:19 PM (pxDth)

50 ObamaCare?  Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at August 05, 2013 12:19 PM (Pr6hk)

51 Liberty Tree is thirsty. Posted by: Thos. Jefferson, Esq. at August 05, 2013 04:14 PM (z6Elp) "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. "

Posted by: Shit Jefferson said. at August 05, 2013 12:19 PM (bb5+k)

52 Does Ed Henry know about this?

Posted by: no good deed at August 05, 2013 12:19 PM (WmLrU)

53 Hey, where can I get some ice in this?

*hic*

Posted by: John Boehner at August 05, 2013 12:19 PM (8ZskC)

54 The Tree of Liberty is looking like the Monty Python Parrot It's looking like it fell into the wood chipper.

Posted by: George Orwell, Peruvian travel agent at August 05, 2013 12:19 PM (mukPq)

55 Where are the lawsuits? Guys like Mark Levin talk a good game - where are the lawsuits? Posted by: naturalfake at August 05, 2013 04:18 PM (n50fF) Unless it is a tax, CJSC Roberts doesn't think you have standing to sue!!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 05, 2013 12:19 PM (XdnQT)

56 ...but if we report on these ObamaCare waivers we might not be granted ObamaCare waivers by His Benevolence!

Posted by: The White House Press Pool at August 05, 2013 12:19 PM (FcR7P)

57 I just want to see them fine thepart time Burger King,KFC, DicksSports,Pro Bass Shop,etcworker who chooses not to join the exchanges. Them they subsidize, winning their votes as members of the Free Stuff Army.

Posted by: zsasz at August 05, 2013 12:19 PM (MMC8r)

58 Peasants -- Wait in line for death panels that you yourselves have to pay for. Liberal Elite -- The rules don't apply to us.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2013 12:20 PM (+cx5n)

59

If Obamacare is so awesome, how come they have to keep exempting people from it?

 

Posted by: Anachronda at August 05, 2013 12:20 PM (xGZ+b)

60 Unreal. Where is our country?

Posted by: RM at August 05, 2013 04:16 PM (/Frlf)


Back around 1990. I haven't felt at home since then.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 05, 2013 12:20 PM (28TG+)

61 Blast it all over social media, bring it up at the watercooler. Force your LIV acquaintances to come to grips with the real Obama/Dem Party. Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 04:15 PM (ZshNr) As if Reality could compare to Television.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:20 PM (bb5+k)

62 They don't even care that we know they lie, cheat and steal.

There is no United States. Republic of Texas.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 05, 2013 04:18 PM (Oa0T5)

 

-- You are correct sir!

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 05, 2013 12:20 PM (R8hU8)

63

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2013 04:18 PM (gqT4g)

 

Do you ever post anything except posts that blame the Republicans? 

 

 

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2013 12:20 PM (m2CN7)

64 Don't worry guys.  The government machine is just giving you a hug.  Just don't expect a reach-around.

Posted by: Bob Filner at August 05, 2013 12:20 PM (Pr6hk)

65 I've read/heard some thoughtful opinions on why the effort to defund O-care is not a good idea and/or won't work.  However, defunding is looking like a better option every day.  Will nobody rein in this lawless douchenozzle?

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at August 05, 2013 12:20 PM (ymovd)

66 Seriously, this is a surprise to anyone. Of course they were going to get their waiver, wouldn't want those poor ivy leaguers to have to figure out how the health exchange worked, that is for the proles.

Posted by: Penfold at August 05, 2013 12:20 PM (Fbt5B)

67 Hey, He said if you like your doctor and plan you can keep it. He didn't lie, the rest of the LIV er's  were too stupid to realize that he wasn't talking to them. Suck it commoners.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 05, 2013 12:20 PM (298ij)

68 Incredible. I do not think that word means...etc., etc.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2013 12:21 PM (zoehZ)

69 Don't worry guys. The government machine is just giving you a hug. Just don't expect a reach-around.

Posted by: Bob Filner at August 05, 2013 04:20 PM (Pr6hk)

 

I'd rather get a hug from the eight-legged furry spidershark sea demon of my nightmares. 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 05, 2013 12:21 PM (4df7R)

70 60
If Obamacare is so awesome, how come they have to keep exempting people from it?



Because STFU, that's why.

---  Your Betters

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 05, 2013 12:21 PM (lVPtV)

71 leaks to the press suggest that Congress will receive extra payments based on the FEHBP defined-contribution formula It's not a mandate, it's a tax credit!

Posted by: John Roberts, philospher king at August 05, 2013 12:21 PM (mukPq)

72 ...and the Middle Class.

Posted by: The Aristocrats at August 05, 2013 12:21 PM (96M6e)

73 LET IT BURN DOWN TO THE FOUNDATION.

Posted by: ParisParamus at August 05, 2013 12:21 PM (0OjcE)

74 If Obamacare is so awesome, how come they have to keep exempting people from it? Posted by: Anachronda at August 05, 2013 04:20 PM (xGZ+b) They're exempting the "right" people from the provisions, because it really wasn't designed for them. Just for you peons!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 05, 2013 12:21 PM (XdnQT)

75 If Obamacare is so awesome, how come they have to keep exempting people from it?


We're denying ourselves the wonders of Obamacare so there's more for you little people. 

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at August 05, 2013 12:21 PM (8ZskC)

76 64 polynikes,

No... of course he is just pissed off the GOP refuses to go for the throat...

opposing the mules is hard and stuff and we might not be treated nice by the media..bwahaha


Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (LRFds)

77 This really might be the chance to correct everything.  Elect a president with balls and have him/her just cancel 90% of the laws out there.  Not enforce them for 4 straight years and watch what happens!

Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (X/+QT)

78

Unless it is a tax, CJSC Roberts doesn't think you have standing to sue!!

 

So the waivers are a tax break,  eh?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (0HooB)

79 I swear that every day this clown is in office, I am reminded more and more of the Goblin King, sans his sense of humor and eloquent speech.

Posted by: maddogg at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (OlN4e)

80 Posted by: Hrothgar at August 05, 2013 04:19 PM (XdnQT) That's true. Our guys wilt every time. Every. Single. Time.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (n50fF)

81 I'd like to see more photos of Bo the Waterdog at those White House meetings.

And that nice Mr. Carney all dressed up in his straw hat and a red and white striped coat singing "polly wolly doodle" would be nice, too.

Posted by: LIV at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (6xhLc)

82 Nearly everything this criminal regime does is against the law. But he knows he is protected by black Democratium which make him impervious to laws. And that is because the Republican Party is a bunch of useless pussies. Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 04:15 PM (lZvxr) No, they're pretty useful to the democrats. I would put them more in the class of whores. We may not be getting any use out of their pussies, but that doesn't mean someone else isn't.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (bb5+k)

83 Does this mean I get to do so more tickling???

Posted by: Eric Massa at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (Pr6hk)

84 Lawsuits? Ha. In Soviet America, patriots and conservatives do have have legal standing to even file lawsuits. But they do have legal standing to be thrown in jail for disobeying Our Betters.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (+cx5n)

85 Where are the lawsuits? Guys like Mark Levin talk a good game - where are the lawsuits? Goal posts have been relocated under the "No Standing" rule.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (xorT2)

86 OBAMACARENADO: It's Full Of Shit!

Posted by: zsasz at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (MMC8r)

87 Is there not one honest Democrat in Washington? Is there not one Democrat who will stand up and say, "Hey, this shit is illegal, and we need to do something about it!"?

Posted by: Farmer Joe at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (CyP2Z)

88 There is no standing to sue your government acting illegally. Duh. 

You have no injuries. You have no right not to be injured. Whatever. Fuck you.

Posted by: totally 'tarded spremes at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (qxcKC)

89 Ire to an Elvisian television-shooting level.

Posted by: Scott M at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (AdBfq)

90 Hey, Preznit Fuckstick O"Bammy.

FUCK.

YOU.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 05, 2013 12:22 PM (wtvvX)

91 Typo correction: 85 Lawsuits? Ha. In Soviet America, patriots and conservatives do NOT have legal standing to even file lawsuits.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2013 12:23 PM (+cx5n)

92 It's no fun being the Ruling Class if you have to follow the same rules as the Peasants. The fun is enforcing your will on others. Especially when they resist. There's a special thrill the Ruling Class gets when forcing a man to kneel against his will. Bow before Zod, bitches!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 05, 2013 12:23 PM (ZPrif)

93

>>Look...who is really sacrificing here?

>>The US military or the goddamned political class and junior woodchucks there on the hill?

 

Well, they might actually have to listen to him talk, so there is that...

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 05, 2013 12:23 PM (SUKHu)

94 28
At least someone pointed out that this isn't legal.

Too bad it wasn't a Pubbie. Or anyone else in DC.


Why would the Republicans point this out?  They get the benefit of extra subsidies too.  It isn't like they really give a shit about you and me.

Posted by: DangerGirl, full of sweet rage at August 05, 2013 12:23 PM (GrtrJ)

95 Wouldn't Malor advise that we need to tiptoe past this issue for fear of offending someone?

Posted by: ejo at August 05, 2013 12:23 PM (GXvSO)

96 basically the newsies are waving their dicks in our face on how they spin Presidential behavior.... it'd be a damn shame if the GOP started encouraging people to beat the shit out of the media. Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 04:16 PM (LRFds) I have been suggesting we get VIOLENT with media people for a long time. Muslims get VIOLENT, and the media gives them respect. VIOLENCE WORKS! In the words of PJ O'rourke, "Give War a Chance."

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:24 PM (bb5+k)

97 Of Course: Obama to Give Capitol Hill Staffers an ObamaCare Waiver
—Ace

Perfect.

--------

Speak for yourself, I think this is an awful abuse of power.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 05, 2013 12:24 PM (UypUQ)

98 We will never, ever, change the minds of the leadership on the Left. Our only hope is convincing their voters.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 12:24 PM (ZshNr)

99 88 Probably not.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2013 12:24 PM (9XBK2)

100 Democrats: Purveyors of Fine Lose Shit Since 1828.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 05, 2013 12:24 PM (jvd3N)

101 Had to shake my head at Dana Perino's take on this on The Five last week. According to Perino, it's not that bad because the staffers were supposed to be exempt in the first place, but the lawmakers just forgot to include the exemption in the bill so they're just adding it back in now. Uh, Dana, you're cute and all but damn, why do you think we call you Dana PeRINO? Maybe if they hadn't shoved the bill through without reading it? And how would it have been OK to exempt them even if the fucking idiots in Congress HAD remembered to include the exemption in the first place?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 05, 2013 12:25 PM (7ObY1)

102 98 Diogenes Lamp,

If the GOP were to promise to pardon anyone with assault charges on the media I'd use beating MSLSD as Cardio work.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:25 PM (LRFds)

103 There is no standing to sue your government acting illegally. Duh.

You have no injuries. You have no right not to be injured. Whatever. Fuck you.

Posted by: totally 'tarded spremes at August 05, 2013 04:22 PM (qxcKC)

 

 

And as Rep Keith Ellison (D-Muzzie fuckstick) tell us:

 

"The government has a right, the government and the people of the United States have a right to run the programs of the United States. Health, welfare, housing - all these things."

 

Funny.  I thought citizens had rights.  

 

I love my country.  But I hate 95% of the people who live here.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 05, 2013 12:25 PM (4df7R)

104 Someone needs to start a petition on WhiteHouse.gov petitioning Congress and their staffers to abide by the laws that THEY THEMSELVES write and pass governing the citizens of the United States. They're citizens, aren't they?

Posted by: © Sponge at August 05, 2013 12:25 PM (xmcEQ)

105 The law is written this way. People are getting exercised that Obama is changing provisions at whim but if you read the law, virtually ever major point ends with "or whatever the secretary decides". Meaning of course, the Secretary of HHS. He is just making the decision for his employee. No telling what can happen in the future if it is always what "the secretary decides".

Posted by: mikulin at August 05, 2013 12:25 PM (vmyXX)

106

89 Welp, my pledge not to fire up the Rage Engine lasted half a day. A good run in Obama's America, I supposed.

 

Just remember to stay below Rage Factor 5 so you don't destroy the fabric of space-time.

 

 

Posted by: Anachronda at August 05, 2013 12:26 PM (FzhYM)

107 Every time I read one of these stories, I wish there was an opposition party.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 05, 2013 12:26 PM (UyYYt)

108 107 Sponge,

don't look now but the GOP had that rule...Frau Botox removed it.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:26 PM (LRFds)

109 Would insurance providers have standing to sue since they are finacially hurt if people are except from the pnzi scheme?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 05, 2013 12:26 PM (X/+QT)

110 **Drool**


Posted by: Ed Henry at August 05, 2013 12:26 PM (jvd3N)

111 Peasants -- Wait in line for death panels that you yourselves have to pay for. Liberal Elite -- The rules don't apply to us. Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2013 04:20 PM (+cx5n) Neo-Feudalism.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:27 PM (bb5+k)

112  Our only hope is convincing their voters.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 04:24 PM (ZshNr)

 

I need some of what you are smoking

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 05, 2013 12:27 PM (R8hU8)

113 One of the privileges of nobility in the feudal system was that they did not have to pay taxes.  One of the characteristics of the Soviet Nomenklatura was that they were not bound by the laws that applied to others.

Neither of those traditions is really in keeping with the traditions of the United States except possibly the large plantation owners of the antebellum south. 

Do you remember Holly Hunter blathering about journalistic ethics in the movie, "Broadcast News"?  Back in 1987, that sort of thing did not produce gales of laughter like today.

If Millenial hipster Obama voters are even aware of this, I wonder how they square it with the fact that their hours just got cut and they have a mortgage worth of school debts and they can't afford a car.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 05, 2013 12:27 PM (31Nrp)

114 And yet the RNC leadership says we can not defund Obamacare.


Note that the WaEx says that is horseshit.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:27 PM (lZvxr)

115 According to Perino, it's not that bad because the staffers were supposed to be exempt in the first place My Gaia, but that woman can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.

Posted by: George Orwell, the least interesting commenter in the world at August 05, 2013 12:27 PM (mukPq)

116 If we had an actual opposition party in the GOP.

Posted by: torquewrench

The problem being that that tack would require an honest repudiation of the last 20+years of GOP activity. The GOP has become the Tory party in all its ineffectual and accommodating glory.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 05, 2013 12:27 PM (VY8H5)

117 I think I know how this ends. "Four legs good, two legs better!"

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 05, 2013 12:27 PM (l3vZN)

118 87 OBAMACARENADO: It's Full Of Shit! Posted by: zsasz Best laugh I've had all day.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2013 12:27 PM (+cx5n)

119 Imagine how bad things would be if congress seriously thought they were actually better than us.  Seriously.

Posted by: A person not really keeping up with current events at August 05, 2013 12:27 PM (Hx2XA)

120 114 Diogene's Lamp,

Why do you think I am telling people to concentrate as their worlds implode...?

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:28 PM (LRFds)

121 Yeah, all these waivers and crap likely are legal. It's the Administrative State. The law is vague as shit and leaves all the actual details to the whims of the Administrative State.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 05, 2013 12:28 PM (ZPrif)

122
Hey you guys!

I got a great idea. We'll not raise a stink, or try to defund Obamacare over this latest mess. Whadaya think? With all those natural Republicans coming on board, this is win-win, right?

Posted by: John Boehner at August 05, 2013 12:28 PM (qoQi/)

123 116 Neither of those traditions is really in keeping with the traditions of the United States except possibly the large plantation owners of the antebellum south.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 05, 2013 04:27 PM (31Nrp)


How  about explaining how the plantations of the South were exempted from taxes and did not have to obey the laws?


Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:28 PM (lZvxr)

124 So I guess where we're at the point on the historical trajectory where the "two-party system" in America has come down to:

(a) The ZANU-PF party,

and,

(b) The "if we put up any resistance to the ZANU-PF party we'll get called racist by the media and won't get invited to Sally Quinn's cocktail parties" party.

It's getting increasingly hard to decide which party to despise more thoroughly.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2013 12:28 PM (gqT4g)

125 If Obamacare is so awesome, how come they have to keep exempting people from it? Posted by: Anachronda at August 05, 2013 04:20 PM (xGZ+b) Well, if the Liberal Democrats who control the media would report this, people wouldn't like it, and so where then, would Liberal Democrats be?

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:28 PM (bb5+k)

126 It's the Administrative State. The law is vague as shit and leaves all the actual details to the whims of the Administrative State. That's the plan, that's where the power lies. There is no law, only power.

Posted by: George Orwell, the least interesting commenter in the world at August 05, 2013 12:28 PM (mukPq)

127 Progressive Trash Ruling Class.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 05, 2013 12:29 PM (ZPrif)

128 I'd rather get a hug from the eight-legged furry spidershark sea demon of my nightmares.

Well hell-o, Nurse!

Posted by: Eight-legged furry spidershark sea demon at August 05, 2013 12:29 PM (B/VB5)

129 I hope Robert's is proud of his treachery

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 12:29 PM (9Xc5j)

130

Speak for yourself, I think this is an awful abuse of power.

 

This is one thing  we  have in common with LIV's, albeit in a lefthanded way-   we don't have to think about it, it is illegal.

 

 

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 05, 2013 12:29 PM (0HooB)

131 115 Velvet Ambition,

Be nice Linc thinks they are engaged in anything other than political violence and punitive attacks on the GOP on the other side...

it's how he copes with living in Bwoston Stwong land I guess...

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:29 PM (LRFds)

132 Interesting times we're a living in..... mighty interesting...

Posted by: Yip at August 05, 2013 12:30 PM (/jHWN)

133 Our only hope is convincing their voters.

Heh.  Heh, heh, heh.

Posted by: Trunks full of ballots at August 05, 2013 12:30 PM (/kI1Q)

134 I'm so angry about this I had to leave my computer for a while. This bullshit doesn't surprise me at all.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 05, 2013 12:30 PM (6tmNL)

135 easants -- Wait in line for death panels that you yourselves have to pay for. Liberal Elite -- The rules don't apply to us. While waiting in that line, if a peasant decided to make it apply to an "elite", if I were on a grand jury, I'd in all good concience, return a no bill.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2013 12:30 PM (xorT2)

136 Burn them all.

Posted by: King Aerys Targarian, The Second Of His Name at August 05, 2013 12:31 PM (/Crba)

137 Permanent peasant class to replace middle class. This sounds eerily like the North vs the South. Shall we put up a wall?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2013 12:31 PM (IXrOn)

138 It's like being pecked to death by a duck. Has there been 1 week since 2008 where some bullshit like this didn't happen? Nothing surprises anymore. I just wish the JEF would don one of those Idi Amin Dada tinpot dictator uniforms and be done with it. Also, cannibalism.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (Seroquel Embiggins No Penis) at August 05, 2013 12:31 PM (jopHG)

139 This is the sort of thing that makes Tom Friedman all damp in the drawers. China for a day baby! Except it's every freaking day. It's also the reason people consider dissolving the political bonds. I used to think it couldn't happen in the near term. I'm not so sure anymore.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at August 05, 2013 12:31 PM (dvRYt)

140

The Republicans  have been doing just about everything  viable  they can do to derail Obamacare.   They were stabbed in the back by Roberts.  

 

After that ruling,  the strategy had to be completely changed.   We  have been able to convince a large majority of the public that Obamacare is bad.  That trend continues.  The dems are helping the cause by doing these kind of things.  Defunding is still on the table but if it shuts down the government we need to be able to keep the same LIV  people who oppose Obamacare on our side.  Not as simple as some make it out to be.

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2013 12:31 PM (m2CN7)

141 136 Trunks full of ballots,

Quite...like I said Linc's cute when he's like this...


Next fall on the Walking Dead....

"votes!"

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:31 PM (LRFds)

142 103 Democrats: Purveyors of Fine Lose Shit Since 1828. **************** But only for the tuna with good taste.

Posted by: Filner the Fishmonger at August 05, 2013 12:31 PM (r2PLg)

143 Laws are for non-deities.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 05, 2013 12:32 PM (ggRof)

144 I think all Gays and Lesbians should be excempt because they have a hard life because how they born.

Posted by: Laquisha Largess at August 05, 2013 12:32 PM (R8X+X)

145 Taliban talking secretly to Kabul government Published: 08.05.13, 23:11 / Israel News The Taliban have held secret talks with representatives of Afghan President Hamid Karzai to try to jumpstart a peace process that stumbled and stalled at the starting gate, according to Afghan officials and a senior Taliban representative. The discussions with members of the Afghan High Peace Council have so far been unofficial and preliminary, seen as an attempt to agree on conditions for formal talks. But they do suggest an interest on both sides in proceeding, or at least toying, with a peace process. (AP) Yeah talks? The taliban are telling Karzi and his pals, when the Americans leave you'll all dead so I were you I'd be getting out

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 12:32 PM (9Xc5j)

146 don't look now but the GOP had that rule...Frau Botox removed it. Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 04:26 PM (LRFds) Of course she did. She didn't know what was in it while ramming it down our throats, there's no way in HELL she was going to abide by it.

Posted by: © Sponge at August 05, 2013 12:32 PM (xmcEQ)

147 Laws are for losers.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 05, 2013 12:32 PM (ZPrif)

148 I has got to get me elected to Congress. Just so i can wipe my ass on the peoples' faces too.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 05, 2013 12:33 PM (SO2Q8)

149 Those Congressional staffers are obviously watching Faux Noise too much.  Otherwise they would not complain about their magnificent Health Care provided by our first AA President.  It's outrageous that in this day and age people are still too blinded by their racist impulses to see the beauty in the system gifted to us by the be-haloed One.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2013 12:33 PM (gtjN1)

150 There actually exist LIV'S who are not congenital idiots, just ignorant of reality, often out of pure crap education . We need their votes. We can get them by mocking, ridiculing and exposing Liberals every where. Or what? What s the other option?

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 12:33 PM (ZshNr)

151 OT: has anyone heard any follow ups on the Venice boardwalk situation?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 05, 2013 12:33 PM (l3vZN)

152 This really might be the chance to correct everything. Elect a president with balls and have him/her just cancel 90% of the laws out there. Not enforce them for 4 straight years and watch what happens! Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 05, 2013 04:22 PM (X/+QT) The Liberal Democrats who control the media would rock the heavens to turn the public against him. They would compare him to Hitler and demand his impeachment. They are a dog that only barks in one direction.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:34 PM (bb5+k)

153 140 Permanent peasant class to replace middle class. This sounds eerily like the North vs the South. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2013 04:31 PM (IXrOn) It sounds more like Latin America.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2013 12:34 PM (zoehZ)

154 Phony scandal.

Posted by: Jay Carney at August 05, 2013 12:34 PM (B5y+v)

155 Start looking for your carve out from Obamacare.  I work in IT for an enormous health insurance conglomerate.  Before ACA was even passed, our actuaries said that even with EVERYONE in the system, premiums would have to go up 12-15 times what they were in order to pay for everyone to be insured.  If your premium was $2000 a year, they said to plan on $24,000 when it was fully implemented.  Now that the Dims have handed out exemptions right and left, there is no telling what that multiple is now.  Remember that Obamacare does NOTHING to bend the cost curve downward.  In fact, it makes the cost curve go up steeply due to increased regulations, etc.

Tell anyone who will listen that they will be competing for jobs with all the newly minted citizens, formerly illegal aliens, who are exempt from ACA.  

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 05, 2013 12:34 PM (kXoT0)

156 "I just wish the JEF would don one of those Idi Amin Dada tinpot dictator uniforms and be done with it."

This.

But with an _impeccable trouser crease_.

It is impossible to overstate the importance of the trouser crease.

Posted by: David Brooks at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (gqT4g)

157 Old and busted:  Government of the people, by the people, and for the people.

New hotness:  Government fr the government, by the government, and paid for by the people.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (XUKZU)

158 Those Congressional staffers are obviously watching Faux Noise too much. Otherwise they would not complain about their magnificent Health Care provided by our first AA President.

Ooooh.  Good catch.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (/kI1Q)

159 OPM has no authority to pay for insurance plans that lack FEHBP contracts, nor does the Affordable Care Act permit either exchange contributions or a unilateral bump in congressional pay in return for less overall compensation. _______________ LOL. As if the law matters to this administration. They'll do whatever they damn well please, and you'll STFU and take it, peons! On a related note, Fox News has a story about illegal aliens in Chicago, picketing a hospital there because they're not being provided with "free" organ transplant operations -- and have to settle for their "free" weekly dialysis sessions instead (at least for the kidney patients). How dare U.S. taxpayers not (1) provide them with scarce, donated organs, and (2) foot the bill for their transplant operations and subsequent lifelong medical care? (BTW, Mexico has a lower organ donation rate than the U.S., so it's only fair that we gringos give up our scarce donor organs to Mexico's "migrants" because . . . raaaaacism!). But hey, I'm sure Emperor Obama can come up with a lawless solution for this problem too, right? After all, there is no problem that can't be solved by throwing more U.S. tax dollars at it!

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (/sohm)

160 All the crap you hear about the last government shutdown is media generated hype that was actually aided and abetted by the Rockefeller wing of the GOP who wanted Newt gone.


That government shut down, which really wasn't a shutdown, did not hurt the GOP at all.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (lZvxr)

161 Guys like Mark Levin talk a good game - where are the lawsuits?

You have no standing, prole.

Posted by: SCOTUS at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (gtjN1)

162 Time for us to send our 14 year old correspondent back in to the White House, since he's the only one to ask real questions.

Posted by: Daily Caller at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (B5y+v)

163 This Bill Is Full Of Spiders (Seriously, Dude, Don't Touch It)

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (STQ9E)

164 154 LincolnTF,

Heh...

yeah Linc you got a spare media in your pocket?

Keep dreaming buddy...

the Free Shit Militia of which you speak may be swayable, but the Dead FSA and the FREE SHIT SPECIAL FORCES aka Ellison's Eradicators are lost causes....

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (LRFds)

165 "And yet the RNC leadership says we can not defund Obamacare."

They have their own waivers.  Why would they rock the boat? 

MFers.  I'm out of NSA-compliant shit to say anymore.

Posted by: Jaws at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (4I3Uo)

166 The Liberal Democrats who control the media would rock the heavens to turn the public against him. They would compare him to Hitler and demand his impeachment.


We'd have to buy a notebook and some pens and everything.

Posted by: The MSM, Now With 20% More Objectivity at August 05, 2013 12:35 PM (8ZskC)

167 Jeff Bezos just bought WaPo for $250M per twitter.

Posted by: Y-not at August 05, 2013 12:36 PM (5H6zj)

168 Unreal. Where is our country?

Posted by: RM at August 05, 2013 04:16 PM (/Frlf)

About ten years in the rear-view.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, The Colossus of Independence at August 05, 2013 12:36 PM (fwARV)

169 Let me guess. Only members of congress will have standing to challenge this in court...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 05, 2013 12:36 PM (SO2Q8)

170 Meanwhile Blue Cross and Aetna pulling out of some states. No biggie! Just let him eat his wafer!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Scandalous Redneck Queen and train detective at August 05, 2013 04:13 PM (baL2B)


The Blues are independent entities, some are investor owned and some are consumer owned.  AMHIK.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 05, 2013 12:36 PM (kXoT0)

171 Goal posts have been relocated under the "No Standing" rule. Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2013 04:22 PM (xorT2) Now you know how the "birthers" felt when they couldn't get courts to look at the issue.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:36 PM (bb5+k)

172 Miss Lindsey's challenger, Ms. Mace on Cavuto right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 05, 2013 12:36 PM (lVPtV)

173 Is there not one honest Democrat in Washington? Is there not one Democrat who will stand up and say, "Hey, this shit is illegal, and we need to do something about it!"? Posted by: Farmer Joe at August 05, 2013 04:22 PM (CyP2Z) No. Next question.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:37 PM (bb5+k)

174 Don't they call this a tax holiday?  Why can't we all get a tax holiday?

Posted by: Fritz at August 05, 2013 12:37 PM (K7xnX)

175 155 OT: has anyone heard any follow ups on the Venice boardwalk situation?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 05, 2013 04:33 PM (l3vZN)



As of this morning they had arrested a guy and charged him with murder, with more to follow.  No motive yet.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:37 PM (lZvxr)

176 So, John Roberts foisted a shitty law on America by ignoring the truth and brought down the respect that is paid to the Supreme Court to boot.

Posted by: ejo at August 05, 2013 12:37 PM (GXvSO)

177 I can send you a waver! *pulls penis out of pants, starts wiggling it back and forth in front of his cell phone camera*

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at August 05, 2013 12:37 PM (Hx2XA)

178  very nice,  I'm glad to know paying out for obamacare for families such as ours will knock us into the  poverty bracket, and fall further into financial hell than we already have been thrown because of our leadership running a wrecking ball through the economy in the first place.

Hey Finish the job Govt! Why should any middle calss family be left!

i'm sure this is a bonus. no more middle class, just them and the poor they made.

Posted by: willow at August 05, 2013 12:37 PM (nqBYe)

179 I cover health care policy, not local crime stories.  Ignoring the law is a crime local to the White House.  Not my beat.

Posted by: Sarah Kliff at August 05, 2013 12:38 PM (B5y+v)

180 All the crap you hear about the last government shutdown is media generated hype that was actually aided and abetted by the Rockefeller wing of the GOP who wanted Newt gone.


That government shut down, which really wasn't a shutdown, did not hurt the GOP at all.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 04:35 PM (lZvxr)

 

Yes it was a conspiracy to get rid of Newt.   Ninja please.

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2013 12:38 PM (m2CN7)

181 Would love to see a poll of voters to see what percentage actually think Obamacare either will not affect their rates; affect their options; affect the percentage of uninsured; what percentage are counting on FREE health care and how many are happy that they might get a subsidy but others will not?


Posted by: Yip at August 05, 2013 12:38 PM (/jHWN)

182 Danke, Vic.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 05, 2013 12:38 PM (l3vZN)

183 Insty comment:  With the Embassies closed where will Al Qaeda buy their weapons?

Posted by: DAve at August 05, 2013 12:38 PM (OksBo)

184 183 So, John Roberts foisted a shitty law on America by ignoring the truth and brought down the respect that is paid to the Supreme Court to boot.



Wonder if the NSA had anything to do with his decision?

Nah.  *replaces tinfoil hat*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 05, 2013 12:38 PM (lVPtV)

185 We will never, ever, change the minds of the leadership on the Left. Our only hope is convincing their voters. Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 04:24 PM (ZshNr) You mean we are doomed!

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:38 PM (bb5+k)

186

We should expect something different from a law that was written by a  Dim who  was serving jail time?

 

That's another thing that pegs  my Rage-O-Meter:  how is any law not written by anyone who wasn't elected valid?  Sure, they "introduce" bills, but I coulda swore  I elected these people to write the laws  in accordance with the Constitution.

 

Silly me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 05, 2013 12:39 PM (0HooB)

187 182 Vic,

Triple Bonus if the driver is a wise latino/latina

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:39 PM (LRFds)

188 This Bill Is Full Of Spiders (Seriously, Dude, Don't Touch It)

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo


And the spiders are full of baby spiders...

Posted by: Dang at August 05, 2013 12:39 PM (Hx2XA)

189 picketing a hospital there because they're not being provided with "free" organ transplant operations -- and have to settle for their "free" weekly dialysis sessions instead (at least for the kidney patients).

"Picketing" a hospital while taking their free shit?

Real courage of your convictions there, Sparco.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 05, 2013 12:39 PM (/kI1Q)

190 Quoting my hero, "What difference at this point does it make?"

Posted by: Senator McVain at August 05, 2013 12:39 PM (B5y+v)

191 Guarantee every single one of them will be getting this subsidy PLUS the subsidy on their tax returns (double dipping) and end up with free health care and a few bucks for the effort. Way to go Obama!

Posted by: Timin203 at August 05, 2013 12:39 PM (5WxMt)

192 Vic, Nancy Mace on with Cavuto.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 05, 2013 12:39 PM (lVPtV)

193 WOW, who says congress can't get rid of Obamacare!

o that's right, just for them.

Posted by: willow at August 05, 2013 12:39 PM (nqBYe)

194 BTW, before ACA was passed there were between 30,000,000 and 40,000,000 uninsured.  After ACA, guess how many we will have (if you include the newly legalized illegals), 60,000,000.

Damn this math crapitola, how do it work?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 05, 2013 12:39 PM (kXoT0)

195 167Guys like Mark Levin talk a good game - where are the lawsuits?

You have no standing, prole.

Posted by: SCOTUS at August 05, 2013 04:35 PM (gtjN1)

---

It appears standing is no longer the proper posture for the people. But we have a choice of

1. On our knees

2. Bent over, trousers round the ankles

 

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 05, 2013 12:39 PM (SO2Q8)

196 Can't Republican congress-critters just 'add' their entire constituencies to their 'staff'?

Posted by: Felt Wrapper at August 05, 2013 12:40 PM (ecmD4)

197 I've just had a brilliant idea for how we as a nation can save a heck of a lot of money. We can dismiss the Congress and all the expenses they incur after they pass one final law, which would render elected representatives unnecessary. It shall be called The "At the Secretary's Discretion" Act of 2013 The text is quite brief: "All laws, statutes and Amendments to the Constitution, past present and future, shall be amended to conclude with the phrase '...or at the Secretary's discretion.' Appoint of the secretary, in whichever department, is at the President's discretion. Exact interpretation of this law will itself be at the Secretary's discretion." Oh wait - we already passed this law? My bad.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2013 12:40 PM (+cx5n)

198 Because Middle Class

Posted by: President For Life Obama at August 05, 2013 12:40 PM (B5y+v)

199 Drudge says WAPO sold.. has siren

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 05, 2013 12:40 PM (nTgAI)

200 Nancy Mace quoting Reagan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 05, 2013 12:40 PM (lVPtV)

201 190 Insty comment: With the Embassies closed where will Al Qaeda buy their weapons? --- From the Fast And Furious connected Mexican mobs, like everyone else.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 05, 2013 12:40 PM (/Crba)

202 If the GOP were to promise to pardon anyone with assault charges on the media I'd use beating MSLSD as Cardio work. Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 04:25 PM (LRFds) I think simple assault used to be a $300.00 fine. The look off horror on that Liberal Democrat Propaganda agents face after you've punched him/her? Priceless!

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:40 PM (bb5+k)

203 You proles need to learn to appreciate our brilliant president. It could be so much worse and for that you should show some fucking gratitude. Now I'm off to my mansion for a checkup with my personal physician. The Clap is a bitch.

Posted by: Kevin Spacey at August 05, 2013 12:40 PM (dvRYt)

204 That alleged press conference today demonstrated the problem.  Carney says that al Queda is on the run and we have to close government offices around the world because al Queda is resurgent.  These are directly in contraction and the MSM will not even notice it. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 05, 2013 12:41 PM (XUKZU)

205 Hey isn't it amazing what congress and leadership can do when it hurts THEIR pocket books?

Posted by: willow at August 05, 2013 12:41 PM (nqBYe)

206 I love my country. But I hate 95% of the people who live here. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 05, 2013 04:25 PM (4df7R) Nah, just 52% of the voters and 99% of the media people.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:41 PM (bb5+k)

207 Jeff Bezos just bought WaPo for $250M per twitter.

That's... weird.  And more than it's worth.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2013 12:41 PM (B/VB5)

208 What happened to the idea that the states that are refusing to set up their own exchanges would befuddle this whole thing?

I thought there was a lot of talk about how there really was no provision in the bill for states refusing to provide exchanges and that the Feds were poorly positioned or had not authority to do so.

What if say Texas told the Feds that Texas does not recognize the federal exchanges and then empower every idea to thwart those that try to sign up for it.  Obstruct and dither and dither some more.   Only the Obamabots will be signing up for this shit anyway..  make it unworkable.

Posted by: Yip at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (/jHWN)

209 test

Posted by: gracepmc at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (rznx3)

210 Insty comment: With the Embassies closed where will Al Qaeda buy their weapons? Mexico.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (xorT2)

211
I'm available week days and weekend, so call me when the need arises.

Posted by: Omar the Noose Maker at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (pJF+c)

212 206 Franks and beans! Franks and beans! Posted by: Ed Henry at August 05, 2013 04:40 PM (Ks4nX) He was mastuhbating! He was mastuhbating!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (qAONj)

213 picketing a hospital there because they're not being provided with
"free" organ transplant operations -- and have to settle for their
"free" weekly dialysis sessions instead (at least for the kidney
patients).


What do we want?  FREE SHIT!

When do we want it?  WHENEVER WE FUCKING ASK!

Posted by: Dang at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (Hx2XA)

214 If only there were an opposition party in the United States.  That'd be awesome.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (ymovd)

215 Palate cleanser.
http://is.gd/gYxVuT

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (/kI1Q)

216 217 Jeff Bezos just bought WaPo for $250M per twitter. That's... weird. And more than it's worth. --- I'm guessing that Bezos overpaid because there was an actual conservative out there willing to pay fair market value for it.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (/Crba)

217 208 the jackhole,

Amazon's founder yes?

IE another Progggie

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (LRFds)

218 Once we decided to radically change our country without Constitutional Amendments.. then changing regulations is child's play. There was a time when making alcohol illegal and imposing a single income tax was an issue for a constitutional amendment. Pretty soon we were establishing retirement programs, healthcare programs, childcare programs, food programs....all with the opinion of nine unelected judges. The Left is a big fan of Process until it gets in the way.. then not so much

Posted by: McCool at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (nCSwS)

219 I fucking warned you.

Posted by: Joe The Plumber at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (B5y+v)

220

160...Remember that Obamacare does NOTHING to bend the cost curve downward. In fact, it makes the cost curve go up steeply due to increased regulations, etc...


Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 05, 2013 04:34 PM (kXoT0)


***

 

Don't forget the coming dramatic increase in utilization, particularly of so-called "elective" procedures.  If someone else is paying for it, the demand will skyrocket, no disincentives to consumption.  Total healthcare expenditures will be stupendously high...


...until they run out of 'other people's money'.  The net drain on the economy will be devastating. 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon aka Dr. Who, What, Where, Why and When at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (pxDth)

221 The Washington Post Co. has agreed to sell its flagship newspaper to Amazon.com founder and chief executive Jeffrey P. Bezos, ending the Graham familyÂ’s stewardship of one of AmericaÂ’s leading news organizations after four generations.



Oh, good.  They sold to another Obama sycophant. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 05, 2013 12:42 PM (lVPtV)

222

I look forward to next year, when

1. our republican representative refuse these illegal subsidies.

2. Scarlett Johansson decides to have herself surgically attached to my penis

 

 

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 05, 2013 12:43 PM (SO2Q8)

223 The only hope is if Congress stops funding it. I am so sick of them holding votes to repeal Obamacare! It's for the stupid who think it might work, it's a stunt!

Posted by: CarolT at August 05, 2013 12:43 PM (A4r1U)

224 I hope one day to live in District one, so I too may live in privilege.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 05, 2013 12:43 PM (UyYYt)

225 Neither of those traditions is really in keeping with the traditions of the United States except possibly the large plantation owners of the antebellum south. Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 05, 2013 04:27 PM (31Nrp) Modern Democrats are equal opportunity slave holders.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:43 PM (bb5+k)

226 >>And the spiders are full of baby spiders...

Posted by: Dang at August 05, 2013 04:39 PM (Hx2XA)<<



They certainly are.  I just had myself one hell of a weekend bender. 

Posted by: Face Sized Spider at August 05, 2013 12:43 PM (KjlbF)

227 Jeff Bezos just bought WaPo for $250M per twitter. Did it come with free shipping and no sales tax?

Posted by: George Orwell, the least interesting commenter in the world at August 05, 2013 12:44 PM (mukPq)

228 Chief Justice Roger B.Tanney is often maligned for his statement in the Dred Scott Decision that black people are of an inferior order with no rights that the white man was bound to respect.

Tanney's jurisprudence has been updated for the 21st century with the Obama executive decision that ordinary Americans are of an inferior order and have no rights that the Ruling Class is bound to respect.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 05, 2013 12:44 PM (31Nrp)

229 Seen on Twitter: "Wait, Brazzers just bought the Washington Post?"

There's a meme there waiting to happen.  #IfBrazzersBoughtWaPo

Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2013 12:44 PM (B/VB5)

230

Tar?   Check

 

Feathers?   Check

 

Lamp posts?  Check

 

Rope?   Check

 

Posted by: Inventory Checker at August 05, 2013 12:44 PM (B5y+v)

231 Office of Personnel Management (OPM) also stands for Other People's Money - IRONY ?

Posted by: McCool at August 05, 2013 12:44 PM (nCSwS)

232 211 Diogenes' Lamp...

Chris Tingles would bankrupt me at 300 a pop....

better to go ahead and get the streamlined charges for a more definitive application of corrective.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 12:44 PM (LRFds)

233 I think I know how this ends. "Four legs good, two legs better!" Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 05, 2013 04:27 PM (l3vZN) Except without the happy ending.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:44 PM (bb5+k)

234 This morning I lucked out and was able to buy two boxes of ammo.

I placed the boxes on the front seat and headed back home, but stopped at a gas station where a drop-dead gorgeous blonde in a short skirt was filling up her car at the next pump.

She glanced at the two boxes of ammo, bent over and leaned in my passenger window, and said in a sexy voice, “I’m a big believer in barter, old fella. Would you be interested in trading sex for ammo?”

I thought for a few seconds and asked,

“What kind of ammo ‘ya got?”

Posted by: Trayvon Martin at August 05, 2013 12:44 PM (e8kgV)

235 "Do you ever post anything except posts that blame the Republicans?"

Nothing -- and that's NOTHING -- I could post could ever possibly come close to being as self-parodic and as tone-deaf and as bone-stupid as stuff the luminaries of the Republican Party routinely say these days.

Last week, Peggy Noonan opined that the IRS scandals were bad. Like, really really appallingly awfully horribly catastrophically third-degree-burns and shattered-teeth and bleeding-profusely-from-the-squeakhole bad.

And why did the Magic Dolphin Lady say the IRS scandals were bad?

Because it might... wait for it... drumroll... _cause people to lose faith in government_.

Because if there's one thing a supposedly conservative political party ought to be able to agree on, it's that the central article of faith in the lives of the ordinary citizenry ought to be GOVERNMENT. Amirite?

Posted by: David Brooks at August 05, 2013 12:45 PM (gqT4g)

236 217 Jeff Bezos just bought WaPo for $250M per twitter.

That's... weird. And more than it's worth.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2013 04:41 PM (B/VB5)

***********

It is weird and might jeopardize Amazon's heretofore good name.  The recent visit by the President and Bezos' own Dem/liberal leanings do not augur well.  Time will tell.

Posted by: gracepmc at August 05, 2013 12:45 PM (rznx3)

237 Until we are ready to work actual violence on this corruption(and those that support it), nothing will change. Washington can not fix itself, no matter who we vote into office. That is assuming our elections are not tampered with, which is not a safe assumption. At the least-violent level, we need nullification laws coming from the states, and real, credible secession movements. Governors telling state citizens not to pay federal taxes would help to, along with arresting the federal agents who would be dispatched to collect them. Things need to change, and that change is going to have to be bloody, or it won't go much of anywhere.

Posted by: mrshad at August 05, 2013 12:45 PM (Xqfwb)

238

Boehner went ahead and called the Preznt a jerk, because of this.


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Feminist at August 05, 2013 12:45 PM (raGXo)

239 Wup. Off damned sock!

Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2013 12:46 PM (gqT4g)

240 How about explaining how the plantations of the South were exempted from taxes and did not have to obey the laws? Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 04:28 PM (lZvxr) I think he's saying that this is the closest thing the US has had to the feudal aristocracy. Not that it was exactly alike.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:46 PM (bb5+k)

241 Democrats won't even know this happened.  CBS/NBC/ABC won't tell them.

Posted by: MTF at August 05, 2013 12:46 PM (B5y+v)

242 Is this Amazon guy a left wing fanatic?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 12:46 PM (9Xc5j)

243 Does anyone know what President Obama received for his birthday from Michelle? I would really love to and would make my day !!!

Posted by: Laquisha Largess at August 05, 2013 12:46 PM (90aTA)

244 What happened to the idea that the states that are refusing to set up their own exchanges would befuddle this whole thing? 

What if say Texas told the Feds that Texas does not recognize the federal exchanges and then empower every idea to thwart those that try to sign up for it. Obstruct and dither and dither some more. Only the Obamabots will be signing up for this shit anyway.. make it unworkable.

Posted by: Yip at August 05, 2013 04:42 PM (/jHWN)

Money happened.  My company is spending $100,000,000 to implement exchanges that have to be ready to go 1/1/14 irregardless of what Poofter and Company deem or do not deem.  States do not have that kind of money to throw at the problem and they did not have the money to turn down Federal funds for Medicaid, so they are shutting up and letting the health insurance companies build them.  In our five states, we are the largest carrier, so we HAVE to build them or be shut out of the individual market.

Texas already folded and took the Medicaid money.  AMHIK.  Hint (I did a lot of programming to make it work for us.)

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 05, 2013 12:47 PM (kXoT0)

245

Jeff Bezos just bought WaPo for $250M per twitter.

That's... weird. And more than it's worth.


Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2013 04:41 PM (B/VB5)
-

Owning a name like that means he     can     spend less on lobbyists.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 05, 2013 12:47 PM (vOq2q)

246 Tar? Check

Feathers? Check

Lamp posts? Check

Rope? Check
Posted by: Inventory Checker



I'd settle for tar,  feathers and a high-speed rail.

Posted by: Dang at August 05, 2013 12:47 PM (Hx2XA)

247

 Insty comment: With the Embassies closed where will Al Qaeda buy their weapons?

---

The Justice department is still open

Posted by: Eric Holder at August 05, 2013 12:47 PM (SO2Q8)

248 254 Is this Amazon guy a left wing fanatic?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2013 04:46 PM (9Xc5j)

******

Leans left. Not fanatic.  Yet.

Posted by: gracepmc at August 05, 2013 12:47 PM (rznx3)

249 195 Vic,

Triple Bonus if the driver is a wise latino/latina

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 04:39 PM (LRFds)


He was reported as a blond yoot.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:47 PM (lZvxr)

250 157 Amazing.

Posted by: Chris Hayes at August 05, 2013 04:34 PM (Ks4nX)

=============================================

#ThingsIWishISaid

Posted by: Jay Carney at August 05, 2013 12:48 PM (B5y+v)

251 It's getting increasingly hard to decide which party to despise more thoroughly. Posted by: torquewrench at August 05, 2013 04:28 PM (gqT4g) Ally that turns traitor, in my opinion.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:48 PM (bb5+k)

252 Is this Amazon guy a left wing fanatic? Posted by: Nevergiveup


We prefer "left-wing fantastic"!

Posted by: The Washington Post at August 05, 2013 12:48 PM (Hx2XA)

253 261 195 Vic, Triple Bonus if the driver is a wise latino/latina Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 04:39 PM (LRFds) He was reported as a blond yoot. --- What exactly is a yoot?

Posted by: Judge Chamberlain Haller at August 05, 2013 12:49 PM (/Crba)

254 Boehner went ahead and called the Preznt a jerk, because of this. I don't believe it. Jerk is way too strong a word. Maybe he hiccuped while he was trying to say 'Dreamboat' and lost his train of thought when the gin came back up into his mouth.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 05, 2013 12:49 PM (iANqq)

255 Scarlett Johansson decides to have herself surgically attached to my penis

Hmm, thinking that if she's sewn to your wang you'll have a hard time banging. 

Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2013 12:49 PM (WhJf8)

256 Oh, good. They sold to another Obama sycophant. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 05, 2013 04:42 PM (lVPtV) Yeah, but Bezos isn't in the newspaper business. He won't be afraid to cut staff. Ezra Klein should be very nervous.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 05, 2013 12:49 PM (T0NGe)

257 Did it come with free shipping and no sales tax? Posted by: George Orwell, the least interesting commenter in the world at August 05, 2013

Every subscription comes with a three-months supply of Brawndo.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 05, 2013 12:50 PM (6xhLc)

258
As of this morning they had arrested a guy and charged him with murder, with more to follow. No motive yet.

***

Apparently he turned himself in.  My guess:  A psycho.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 05, 2013 12:50 PM (XUKZU)

259 Free Fancy health care for me and not for thee... The pres and his beloved minions in Congress...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at August 05, 2013 12:51 PM (9+ccr)

260 BTW, before ACA was passed there were between 30,000,000 and 40,000,000 uninsured. After ACA, guess how many we will have (if you include the newly legalized illegals), 60,000,000. ______________________ Yes, we just had to have this massive new government bureaucracy and massive new subsidy because it was MORALLY INDEFENSIBLE that the U.S. had 30 million uninsured. So now we'll have twice that number of uninsured (and everybody else will be paying more for their health insurance). But that will be totally cool and NOT morally indefensible, because . . . er, shut up you right-wing raaaaacists! You just can't stand that a black man is president!

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at August 05, 2013 12:51 PM (/sohm)

261 Owning a name like that means he can spend less on lobbyists. THIS.

Posted by: George Orwell, the least interesting commenter in the world at August 05, 2013 12:51 PM (mukPq)

262 They had a surfer riot not long ago, too. Bros gone wild!

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 12:51 PM (ZshNr)

263 There actually exist LIV'S who are not congenital idiots, just ignorant of reality, often out of pure crap education . We need their votes. We can get them by mocking, ridiculing and exposing Liberals every where. Or what? What s the other option? Posted by: Lincolntf at August 05, 2013 04:33 PM (ZshNr) Try to get a good seat on a lifeboat. But yeah, in the meantime, mockery is always my favorite tactic.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:51 PM (bb5+k)

264 @225 Awwww! What a cute crab! Love those pearly, knobby little pincers!

Posted by: Gem State-visiting Moron at August 05, 2013 12:52 PM (sAicm)

265 252 I think he's saying that this is the closest thing the US has had to the feudal aristocracy. Not that it was exactly alike.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 04:46 PM (bb5+k)



The paid almost ALL of the taxes and they obeyed the laws because for the most part they were the ones writing the laws. But they actually made very few laws in those days.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:52 PM (lZvxr)

266 ically attached to my penis Hmm, thinking that if she's sewn to your wang you'll have a hard time banging. Walking would get it to "swangin"

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2013 12:53 PM (xorT2)

267 @225 Awwww! What a cute crab! Love those pearly, knobby little pincers!

And the dimples, don't forget the dimples.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2013 12:53 PM (WhJf8)

268

Hmm, thinking that if she's sewn to your wang you'll have a hard time banging.

---

A risk i am willing to take....for science.

Posted by: Eric Holder at August 05, 2013 12:53 PM (SO2Q8)

269 265 What exactly is a yoot?

Posted by: Judge Chamberlain Haller at August 05, 2013 04:49 PM (/Crba)


Under the AOS style guide that is a youth.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:54 PM (lZvxr)

270

BTW, before ACA was passed there were between 30,000,000 and 40,000,000 uninsured. After ACA, guess how many we will have (if you include the newly legalized illegals), 60,000,000.

 

 

Of that 30 million uninsured I would wager over 50%  is voluntary meaning they made the choice to not incur the expense of a policy.  

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2013 12:54 PM (m2CN7)

271 Jay Severin just said, in discussing Chris Chrispy, that he is giving up the term RINO in favor of the word HYPPO as they are hypocrites.  They been wondering on various Blaze programs today when McShame will pull a Lieberman?  I'm wondering when Chrispy will do this?  I bet republicans can come up with a long list of people among their ranks who are hypos.

Posted by: caustic at August 05, 2013 12:54 PM (/b8+5)

272 "Things need to change, and that change is going to have to be bloody, or it won't go much of anywhere."

I wish you were wrong.   May God have mercy on us.

Posted by: Jaws at August 05, 2013 12:55 PM (4I3Uo)

273 off criminal sock

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 05, 2013 12:55 PM (SO2Q8)

274 Of that 30 million uninsured I would wager over 50% is voluntary meaning they made the choice to not incur the expense of a policy.

We must force them to be a part of the system, or the system falls apart.  -Oblamer

He's gonna force you to be involved.
-M Oblamer

Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2013 12:55 PM (WhJf8)

275 @256.. Thanks.  Figures.  Reality happened.  Everyone complies and the goose is cooked.  And in the new normal, too many new regulations written for anyone to unravel because too many companies have already adjusted to the ACA.    We're doomed...  and the donks knew it would be this way when they rammed it through.   Damn you Justice Roberts!

Posted by: Yip at August 05, 2013 12:56 PM (/jHWN)

276 Of that 30 million uninsured I would wager over 50% is voluntary meaning they made the choice to not incur the expense of a policy.

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2013 04:54 PM (m2CN7)


The number quoted by the Census Dept was 48M.  Of which 3/4 were legal/illegal aliens and people under 30 who did not want it. 

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:56 PM (lZvxr)

277 So, John Roberts foisted a shitty law on America by ignoring the truth and brought down the respect that is paid to the Supreme Court to boot. Posted by: ejo at August 05, 2013 04:37 PM (GXvSO) I can't speak for others, but the Roberts decision isn't the beginning of my loss of respect for the Supreme court. I have been steadily not respecting it since 1973. The court system is the legacy of Roosevelt drones.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 12:56 PM (bb5+k)

278 "And why did the Magic Dolphin Lady say the IRS scandals were bad?

Because it might... wait for it... drumroll... _cause people to lose faith in government_.

Because if there's one thing a supposedly conservative political party ought to be able to agree on, it's that the central article of faith in the lives of the ordinary citizenry ought to be GOVERNMENT. Amirite?

Posted by: David Brooks at August 05, 2013 04:45 PM (gqT4g)"



Well, you may not remember back that far but there was a time when love of country and its form of government was considered a conservative value.



I know.  It sounds crazy today.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 05, 2013 12:58 PM (31Nrp)

279 of course, we should trust him on everything else.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at August 05, 2013 12:58 PM (QxSug)

280 as a beginner stage alcoholie, i do hope that will be paid for by healthcare.

not treatment but the alcohol.

hey if they pay for other people crazy chit shouldn't they help a girl out?

Posted by: willow at August 05, 2013 12:58 PM (nqBYe)

281 WaPo sold; not linking to the WaPo page directly.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at August 05, 2013 12:59 PM (BQ10H)

282 new one

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 12:59 PM (lZvxr)

283 The waivers seem to be a way of separating the haves from the have nots or the elites from the plebeians.

Posted by: caustic at August 05, 2013 12:59 PM (/b8+5)

284 Roberts will go down as making one of the most infamous rulings ever and identified as the trigger point of the demise of the United States as a Republic. 

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2013 12:59 PM (m2CN7)

285 What if say Texas told the Feds that Texas does not recognize the federal exchanges and then empower every idea to thwart those that try to sign up for it. Obstruct and dither and dither some more. Only the Obamabots will be signing up for this shit anyway.. make it unworkable. Posted by: Yip at August 05, 2013 04:42 PM (/jHWN) That would be a good starting strategy.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 01:00 PM (bb5+k)

286 Selective Enforcement Lawsuits please line up to the left.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2013 01:01 PM (N1cR5)

287 we should overwhelm the system. every woman ask for larger or smaller breasts, lazer removal of stretch marks.
men get their list of desires catered to.

lets' do this.

Posted by: willow at August 05, 2013 01:01 PM (nqBYe)

288 Apparently he turned himself in. My guess: A psycho.
So you think it was a Moslem too. Me as well.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at August 05, 2013 01:02 PM (BQ10H)

289 Nood up. Gunz thread.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2013 01:03 PM (xorT2)

290 Chris Tingles would bankrupt me at 300 a pop.... better to go ahead and get the streamlined charges for a more definitive application of corrective. Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 05, 2013 04:44 PM (LRFds) No, it's $300.00 for the entire altercation. You can hit him as many times as you like, just so long as you don't stop.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 01:03 PM (bb5+k)

291 How does one apply for this new Tax Exempt status?

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2013 01:05 PM (N1cR5)

292 Of that 30 million uninsured I would wager over 50% is voluntary meaning they made the choice to not incur the expense of a policy. ___________________ And a lot of people make the choice not to buy insurance because they know that hospitals are required by federal law (EMTALA) to treat anyone who shows up with a medical "emergency," regardless of ability to pay. Illegal aliens started taking advantage of this stupid law when it was passed back in the 1980's -- that's why they show up pregnant and about to give birth in the E.R.'s in the southwest U.S.; they know the hospital can't turn them away. So they get "free" OB care (at taxpayer expense) in a nice hospital, and as a bonus, their anchor baby gets U.S. citizenship, which then puts mommy and the rest of the illegal alien family on the quick path to legal status, plus qualifies junior (as a newly-minted U.S. citizen) for all sorts of taxpayer-funded welfare benefits. In cities like Miami and SF, wealthier foreigners fly into the U.S., have their babies in a state-of-the-art U.S. hospital, and then leave with the babies, stiffing taxpayers for the costs of the delivery (but getting junior a nice U.S. birth certificate for the future, just in case). It's win/win for the illegal aliens and unscrupulous wealthy foreigners, and lose/lose for U.S. taxpayers and law-abiding citizens. It's been going on for decades now, and Congress knows all about it (Marco Rubio even lamented once how angry the Miami situation makes him), but they refuse to change the law. Government run by special interests, for special interests, but paid for by us suckers.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at August 05, 2013 01:06 PM (/sohm)

293 When history is told of the SCOAMF's time, it will read like a Dickens novel. Please, sir, can I have some more?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 05, 2013 01:06 PM (IXrOn)

294 Things need to change, and that change is going to have to be bloody, or it won't go much of anywhere. Posted by: mrshad at August 05, 2013 04:45 PM (Xqfwb) I'm thinking that part is already baked into the cake. With money moving in the direction it is (worthless) and joblessness going in the direction it is, (upward) i'm thinking at some point stuff is going to break.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 01:07 PM (bb5+k)

295 So now Buck on Beck's channel is now scaring the crap out of me over the recent prison breaks that I didn't even know about.

Posted by: caustic at August 05, 2013 01:08 PM (/b8+5)

296 Defund the whole train wreck, since everyone is jumping off, anyway.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 05, 2013 01:10 PM (RUw+I)

297 We must force them to be a part of the system, or the system falls apart. -Oblamer He's gonna force you to be involved. -M Oblamer Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2013 04:55 PM (WhJf As Walter Williams often says, "The problem I have with communists is that they always want to include me in it. "

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 05, 2013 01:11 PM (bb5+k)

298 "How about explaining how the plantations of the South were exempted from taxes and did not have to obey the laws?


Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2013 04:28 PM (lZvxr)"



In the way that the tiny planter class ran most things, including government so that no laws were passed that they did not care for and taxes were never imposed for roads or education.  Not only were they concerned about blacks learning to read, they weren't too enthusiastic about poor white trash learning to read either.  They consciously modeled their society on Walter Scott's depiction of the feudal system and many accepted George Fitzhugh's social prescriptions in "Cannibals All!" as a design for a perfect society.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at August 05, 2013 01:14 PM (31Nrp)

299 Beck and guest are making the shutting down of the embassies look like "cut and run".

Posted by: caustic at August 05, 2013 01:18 PM (/b8+5)

300 Why does the President keep repealing his own law with all of these waivers?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at August 05, 2013 01:23 PM (4p5/2)

301 Sorry, it's a tax, why is Obama allowed to do this?

Someone needs to take his narcissistic ass to court over it.  Where is his authority?  Oh, right, we HAVE no opposition party.  What was I thinking?

Posted by: acethepug at August 05, 2013 01:26 PM (4kvfA)

302

>>> Someone needs to take his narcissistic ass to court over it.

 

 

That someone needs to be fined, under the ACA,  first.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2013 01:31 PM (N1cR5)

303 Let's see here -- Constitution Article 1, Section 8: "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States" Obamacare imposes a tax under the authority of this section for non-compliance with its insurance requirements. Note that last sentence: "all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States". Obama giving a waiver to non-compliant Capitol Hill staffers doesn't sound very "uniform," does it?

Posted by: Socratease at August 05, 2013 01:52 PM (3V4IJ)

304 So... The people who FORCED this goddamned atomic bomb of economic and personal destruction upon us...and begged for months on cable news that it would hurt them, actually are getting a free pass from Mao Tse Hussein?  (80%+ of all 'jobs' of the recovery are part time.. all because of this)

I've heard the crying from these people on the news for the last few months.  These are people.. staffers, who go to the most expensive schools, live the most kingly lives on the planet, and worst of all: THEY THINK THE LAWS THEY FORCE ON US ARE ONLY FOR THE LITTLE PLEBS.. NOT THEM, NO SIR!

I will not join an Obamacare co-op.  I will not pay the tax.  I will not join.  I WILL NOT COMPLY

I've already discussed this with my DR.  He'll just accept cash directly from me.  Afterall.. isn't that the obvious solution here?  Why all the paperwork and this and that for a Dr. visit?  PLUS A CO-PAY.... and monthly premiums that have gone up x2 for me since this damn 'law' was passed.  It doesn't make any fucking sense sweet mother of god i'm fucking pissed!

THESE MOTHERFUCKERS ARE REALLY EXEMPT FROM THIS SHIT!?!?  Its time folks.  Whenever the townhall meetings start, I hope fucking riots start

Posted by: Son of a Bitch at August 06, 2013 01:31 AM (KaAnS)

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