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January 17, 2013

Oh, Buzzfeed
— Ace

I try to be understanding. I do. As much as the media is faltering, the online media isn't exactly a cash-cow either. It's a highly competitive environment, and hit-whoring -- splashily overstated and linkable stories -- are a fact of life.

It's a bit like the comic book industry's attempt to Hype its way out of an industry-wide collapse in the late nineties. Everything is a stunt, everything is grabby. Spiderman dies! Alternate covers. Hologram covers! Gold leaf covers. In this issue, with six alternate covers including one gold-leaf hologram cover, Spiderman dies. Can't. Miss. Issue!

But there's a downside to that sort of Spike Sales thinking. When everything is calculated to Spike Hits, it begins to sound like carnival barking. And carnival barking tends to be -- get this -- dishonest. And people start noticing that.

Anyway, Buzzfeed published an article by the hackish McKay Coppins, which got linked around a lot -- including by people on the right, because it offered them a reassuring and surprising storyline: that hipsters and assorted liberal d-bags were the new "gun nuts."

Well, McKay's sources are saying the story is bullshit, and that the reporter failed to report their clear statements that contradicted the premise of the story. Quotes like...

The Atlantic Wire asked Carr what he felt like being a poster boy for a gun nut convert. The process does not sound like it's complete. At South by Southwest once, Carr said, he shot large-caliber handguns for a story. "I found them absolutely terrifying in all regards."

By "them" he meant "vaginas" but still it's the same thing. (No, just kidding, he meant guns, which are Icky like Veejers.)

Scott Beauchamp's wife Elspeth Reeve, who probably knows a thing about cooked-up, sensationalistic Too Good to Check pieces containing counterintuitive mindthoughts and unexpected soulpatterns, finds it to be shoddy.

Jim Shooter, a veteran of comic books, talked about the Great Big Comic Book Crash of 96/97 and noted:

The comic book industry today is rife with creators who don't know their craft -- creators who are in love with their ignorance and defiantly cling to their destructive self-indulgence. That's the greatest reason for the decline of the industry. It's not poor distribution, lack of promotion or anything else. If there was a comic book shop on every street corner with big neon signs, people still wouldn't buy un-entertaining, impenetrable, rehashed, derivative masturbatory crap.
Ill-conceived storylines, reliance upon "shocking" or sensational events, dependence on gimmicks and marketing ploys, oppressively derivative material and the dearth of new ideas are all evidence of visionless, clueless creative leadership at the top and untrained, clueless (though often very talented) creators on the firing line.
...
Whether Aunt May dies or not isn't the question. If she dies, does it mean anything beyond a brief sales spike[?]

I'm using the comic-book analogy because comic books are a fringy, niche sort of thing, and definitely considered a Lesser Cousin of the big players in the media, and so is online media. And because so much of comic books is plain ol' hucksterism and carnival barking. As is... online media.*

But ultimately the carnival barking is a very short-term strategy. Profiting in the long run is like grinding at professional gambling -- a hundred small, sound positive moves, few of which are spectacular in themselves, which accumulate to result in a net profit.

Shooter's advice for increasing sales is distressingly simple (distressing because "simple" isn't the same as easy): Be better. Write better stories.

Not really any way around that. Even if you have a Twitter account!

* There was never a Golden Age of the internet wherein Sensationalism and Hit-Whoring wasn't in vogue. Like the comic book industry, these things were present from the beginning.

It's not that these things are being abused now, or done more now. It's that... well, just like with comic books, everyone now understands these tricks and Eyes Glaze Over and then Roll.

It's just the tricks don't work anymore. A medium has to be sensitive to trends, including trends in audience sophistication.

I don't know about you, but I'm put-off by hit-whoring. Not saying I always was. Just saying that, to whatever extent I once thought it was funny or cute to hit-whore, it all now strikes me as... well, crude I guess. Callow.

Same trajectory in the comic books. Dozens and dozens of Superman covers promised SUPERMAN WILL DIE!!! Number of Superman actual Superman deaths in his 80 year history: 0. (I know, people claim he died in 1996 or whatever. Well, he wasn't completely dead, it turns out. He got better. Is that really "dead" then?)

That trick works the first few times. Maybe the first dozen times if you're talking about six-year-olds. After that, people catch on pretty quickly that Superman isn't going to die and so this is all An Stunt.

Anyway, I guess I'm just tired of the Shouting. The Internet features a lot of Shouting in print form. I think I've just gotten a headache.

Speaking of Comic Books, Overhype, and Media Bias... Well we weren't actually talking about media bias in this post, for once. But let's say we were.

Anyway, Spider-Man comics featured a blatantly biased, egotistical newsman, of course, in J. Jonah Jameson.

I think J. Jonah's fair-and-balanced treatment of the city's pressing Spider-Man Issue is an unintentional parody of how the actual media frames issues for the public:

Pretty spot-on, eh? Assault Weapons: Threat or Menace? It just works.

Posted by: Ace at 01:36 PM | Comments (292)
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1 RePOOPulate, we much!

Posted by: Rev. Al at January 17, 2013 01:37 PM (1FLBb)

2 so what's your point?

Posted by: mallfly at January 17, 2013 01:42 PM (bJm7W)

3 I guess everyone else is taking the time to read the whole thing...

Posted by: mallfly at January 17, 2013 01:42 PM (bJm7W)

4 When people can no longer afford electricity...or internet service...then maybe Comic Books will make a comeback.

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 01:43 PM (fH4X9)

5 It's kind of like a "going out of business" sale every weekend for 2 years. Ultimately people catch on.

Posted by: Ronster at January 17, 2013 01:43 PM (JgkPs)

6 Wait a minute. The story about how hipster d-bags are the new gun nuts was fake? How can I ever trust Buzzfeed again?

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 17, 2013 01:43 PM (+lsX1)

7 jeeze louise, it's not that long! I mean, if you read all the linked material it is. But I didn't go long this time!

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 01:43 PM (LCRYB)

8 "But there's a downside to that sort of Spike Sales thinking."

Is that Soupy's brother?

Posted by: mallfly at January 17, 2013 01:43 PM (bJm7W)

9 As long as there is AoS they can DIAF.

Posted by: Bosk at January 17, 2013 01:43 PM (n2K+4)

10 This Carr dude sounds like a fucking prize. Seriously, unless you've got some kind of autism spectrum aversion to loud noises, or if you've been severely traumatized somehow in a way that involves firearms, how can firing a gun be horrifying?

Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 01:44 PM (LEiGw)

This Carr dude sounds like a fucking prize. Seriously, unless you've got some kind of autism spectrum aversion to loud noises, or if you've been severely traumatized somehow in a way that involves firearms, how can firing a gun be horrifying?

They are icky.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 17, 2013 01:45 PM (rZPpd)

A complete absence of testosterone and self respect. That's how. He's a wimp.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 17, 2013 01:46 PM (o1kXv)

13 So is Buzzfeed going tits up soon?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 17, 2013 01:46 PM (yiIja)

14 Power Girl? Amanda Conner is the artist. Met her at cons twice. Nice person. Got her autograph twice.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 01:47 PM (Gyp4x)

15 There's a difference between a rifle and a gun. He obviously likes guns and what they do in his mouf. Rifle's are icky.

Posted by: Bosk at January 17, 2013 01:47 PM (n2K+4)

16 **A complete absence of testosterone and self respect. That's how. He's a wimp.** various theories 1. lack of penis 2. just making up bullshit to scare the omegas (see Huxley and how they keep omegas from reading books) 3. he thinks chicks dig this bullshit 4. he thinks guns will turn him into a southern redneck (because there's no evil greater than a sourthern redneck)

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 17, 2013 01:48 PM (QxSug)

17 from the Breitbart link:

"Oh, but wait, theyÂ’re not gun nuts; and apparently they told Coppins they're not gun nuts, but Coppins didnÂ’t mention that in his story about how they are gun nuts."

so maybe this guy is just auditioning to work for the NY Times or CBS? Seems like he only need to work on his CYA skills.

Posted by: mallfly at January 17, 2013 01:48 PM (bJm7W)

18 Feed the Buzz and avoid the kill.

Posted by: Ronster at January 17, 2013 01:48 PM (JgkPs)

19 OT

I just saw the saddest thing on my way home tonight. Where I am right now, is around 45F and raining with a chance for 2-4 inches of snow. Yeah, it's cold and wet.

I saw this little orange kitteh on the side of the road, just standing there looking like it had given up on life and was just waiting for the end to hurry up and come. It was so sad, I actually looped around to take a picture of it so I could document a tragedy. I almost cried for this poor little thing.

The pic is a little grainy because I was going around 40 mph and didn't want to hit him as I drove by.

http://i49.tinypic.com/bkc2t.jpg

Posted by: EC at January 17, 2013 01:49 PM (doBIb)

20 They are icky. Posted by: Grey Fox at January 17, 2013 05:45 PM (rZPpd) Maybe gunpowder residue is hell on a single source organic alpaca cardigan? There are hipsters, more accurately foodies (BIRM), that are getting into hunting, but they seem to be Mark Zuckerberg types ad Steve Rinella acolyte out to make a statement about knowing where your food comes from.

Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 01:49 PM (LEiGw)

21 I'm not reading that.

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2013 01:49 PM (AQWS5)

22 The Great Comics Implosion, closest thing to a black hole to happen. And got all these idiots who were thinking they could have the next Superman #1 in just a few years if they had the correct super rare variant cover of a comic. When it finally sank in it usually takes decades for comics to zoom in price, the Great Sell-off happened. Which almost killed DC and Marvel while exterminating many of the smaller publishers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 01:49 PM (Gyp4x)

23 When asked why it was horrifying, Carr replied the gun handle reminded him of a vagina.

Posted by: polynikes at January 17, 2013 01:49 PM (m2CN7)

24 re 17: "4. he thinks guns will turn him into a southern redneck (because there's no evil greater than a sourthern redneck)"

Don't liberals believe that, every time you shoot a gun, your brain moves slightly to the right?

Posted by: mallfly at January 17, 2013 01:50 PM (bJm7W)

25 But he meant well...

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 17, 2013 01:50 PM (KDq5l)

26 Okay, how many comic book characters have emerged from the phonebooth, - as it were, - but have baby-mamas on the sly?

Posted by: Fritz at January 17, 2013 01:50 PM (w3+gB)

" It's not poor distribution, lack of promotion or anything else. If there was a comic book shop on every street corner with big neon signs, people still wouldn't buy un-entertaining, impenetrable, rehashed, derivative masturbatory crap. "

I'm afraid I have to take issue with that optomistic assessment; look at who the fuck is President, and a repeat for Christ's sake. The American public will most assurradly buy the stinkiest shit on the planet if it's packaged in skittles and unicorns.

Posted by: maddogg at January 17, 2013 01:50 PM (OlN4e)

28 "I found them absolutely terrifying in all regards."

What a pussy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 17, 2013 01:51 PM (p/cQy)

29 It is called Buzzfeed, after all.

Posted by: beach thursday at January 17, 2013 01:51 PM (LpQbZ)

30 Not for nothing - Right-to-Lifers know a hell of a lot more about the subject they're advocating than the Gun Grabbers do about theirs. _ Also, two - and only two - Republican candidates said somewhat stupid, ill-informed things about pregnancy. EVERY Dem Senator, Congressman ... President has said equally stupid, if not more astoundingly stupid things about guns in general.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 17, 2013 01:51 PM (RuUvx)

31 "I found them absolutely terrifying in all regards."

Vaginas?

Posted by: EC at January 17, 2013 01:51 PM (doBIb)

32 Sounds like a pretty normal journalist. I don't see anything there out of the ordinary.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 17, 2013 01:52 PM (bxiXv)

33 EC, he probably does not know what one is outside of pr0n and medical sites.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 01:52 PM (Gyp4x)

34 jeeze louise, it's not that long! I mean, if you read all the linked material it is. But I didn't go long this time! Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 05:43 PM (LCRYB) When you say rips it apart, that is a must go to link.

Posted by: beach thursday at January 17, 2013 01:53 PM (LpQbZ)

35 Was that when all the comic books started having nude girls in them, not just the Italian ones. The only way thus metro douchebags become "gun nuts" is a mugging.

Posted by: Jean at January 17, 2013 01:53 PM (DcbLC)

36 EC, he probably does not know what one is outside of pr0n and medical sites.

Maybe he saw one on tv or in the movies.

Posted by: EC at January 17, 2013 01:53 PM (doBIb)

The only way thus metro douchebags become "gun nuts" is a mugging.

No, then they buy whistles and pepper spray.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 17, 2013 01:54 PM (o1kXv)

38 Why is there a post about 'Hit-Whoring' with no Boobeh Shot?

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2013 01:55 PM (AQWS5)

39 I think a number of leftist douches are "gun nuts," in the "Ward Churchill in a Che shirt waving an AK-47 while holding a copy of Prairie Fire in his other hand" kind of way.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 17, 2013 01:55 PM (bxiXv)

EC, he probably does not know what one is outside of pr0n and medical sites.

I'm pretty sure the pr0n he's watching doesn't involved naked women.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 17, 2013 01:55 PM (o1kXv)

41 Also, two - and only two - Republican candidates said somewhat stupid, ill-informed things about pregnancy.

EVERY Dem Senator, Congressman ... President has said equally stupid, if not more astoundingly stupid things about guns in general.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 17, 2013 05:51 PM (RuUvx)

^This^ No Republican candidate should say a damn thing about ladyparts. It is Kryptonite, pure and simple. The minute they win their primaries, I advocate sending them to re-education camps where they are By God Taught the Hard Way by Drill Instructors to NEVER answer a reporter's question about ladyparts--except to say, "Yep, I am a big fan, my Mom had one and so does my wife. Next question."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 01:55 PM (kXoT0)

42 Jean. You mean the Italian translated hentai manga from Japan? Shrink-wrapped so the yutes can't read it at the kiosk.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 01:55 PM (Gyp4x)

43 Wait, does this mean cake girl is out?

Posted by: Dave S. at January 17, 2013 01:55 PM (M79pc)

44
SALE ONLY THIS WEEK AT JOSEPH A. BANKS.

Buy 30 shirts get the next 20 at 75% off.

THIS WEEK ONLY.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 17, 2013 01:55 PM (p/cQy)

45 >>>When you say rips it apart, that is a must go to link. actually I shouldn't have said "rips it apart," which sounds like an endorsement (Like "You must read this!") I just meant she casts doubt on the claims. I'll rewrite.

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 01:55 PM (LCRYB)

46 "Spiderman"

"Spiderman"
===============

Who?

Posted by: Spider-Man at January 17, 2013 01:55 PM (H84UO)

47 Keep it down, dicks! Daddy's got a headache...and I don't blame him, it does seem too much sometime around the internet webs. Well thought out writing with documentation and humor is always good.

Posted by: mare at January 17, 2013 01:56 PM (A98Xu)

48 So ... can I use gun nuts in a fruit cake or should I wait for next Christmas?

Posted by: Adriane... at January 17, 2013 01:56 PM (TvO05)

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 05:47 PM (Gyp4x)

Ever meet Tara McPherson?

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2013 01:56 PM (AQWS5)

50 As long as you're re-writing, can a brother get a hyphen?

Posted by: Spider-Man at January 17, 2013 01:56 PM (H84UO)

51 Anna, when I was buying comic books there was no manga.

Posted by: Jean at January 17, 2013 01:56 PM (DcbLC)

SALE ONLY THIS WEEK AT JOSEPH A. BANKS.

Buy 30 shirts get the next 20 at 75% off.

THIS WEEK ONLY.

That shit right there is funneh.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 17, 2013 01:57 PM (o1kXv)

53 Don't liberals believe that, every time you shoot a gun, your brain moves slightly to the right? Posted by: mallfly at January 17, 2013 05:50 PM (bJm7W) LOL, this is awesome. It majorly conflicts with Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain.

Posted by: beach thursday at January 17, 2013 01:57 PM (LpQbZ)

54 Worst...post...ever.

Posted by: Comic Book Guy at January 17, 2013 01:58 PM (HVtRc)

55 Anna, when I was buying comic books there was no manga.

The closest thing I remember was Heavy Metal and the Druuna stories. It was pretty much hardcore pr0n comics with nothing blocked out.

Posted by: EC at January 17, 2013 01:58 PM (doBIb)

56 I think there actually was a 'golden age' of the Internet. It lasted about 5 minutes before Bill Gates and crew, and Google, and Yahoo etc made it too simple for the feeble minded to jump into the fray. Before that point, it was nothing but geeks who actually did something worthwhile with the ability to communicate. I have nothing to offer as evidence except the average comments on a YouTube video. Insert Rick-roll link here.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at January 17, 2013 01:58 PM (feFL6)

57 No, then they buy whistles and pepper spray. Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 17, 2013 05:54 PM (o1kXv) This reminds me of a line from "Don't Trust the Bitch in Apt. 23" (surprisingly decent, thought I'd hate it but didn't). It was something about buying a rape whistle and making sure not to get raped next to a marching band.

Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 01:58 PM (LEiGw)

58 Colorado Alex, Ok, second mugging after they get the whistle surgically removed from their ass

Posted by: Jean at January 17, 2013 01:58 PM (DcbLC)

59 I feel the pain. I use to run a publishing company. OK people lie about circulation and everyone knows it, but at least a print ad is there. Web ads?

I have never seen one of yours ace, my ad filter blocks then. Oops, don't tell anyone, but this is what half of all the internet hits do.

It's a tough business. Obama is here for you!

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 17, 2013 01:59 PM (wR+pz)

60 Garrett, nope.

Jean, wow old-school.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 01:59 PM (Gyp4x)

61 dear God barney the dinosaur's creator's son was arrested for......ATTEMPTED MURDER....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 17, 2013 01:59 PM (GVxQo)

62 You must kill your darling characters.

Posted by: The Faulking Dead at January 17, 2013 01:59 PM (I88Jc)

63 NEW YORK (WABC) -- It appears someone forgot to exempt police officers from the ban of ammunition clips with more than 7 bullets in New York State's new gun control law. It's a big oversight that apparently happened in the haste by the Cuomo Administration to get a tough package of gun-control measures signed into law. On Tuesday, Governor Andrew Cuomo signed the sweeping gun measure, the nation's toughest. It includes a ban on the possession of high-capacity magazines. Related Content MORE: Follow us @EyewitnessNYC MORE: Get Alerts Specifically, magazines with more than 7 rounds will be illegal under the new law. The problem as the statute is currently written does NOT exempt law enforcement officers. The NYPD, the State Police and virtually every law enforcement agency in the state carry 9-milli-meter guns, which have a 15-round capacity. Unless an exemption is added by the time the law takes effect in March, police would technically be in violation of the new gun measure. This is the kind of crap that happens when you rush an ill conceived law into effect.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2013 01:59 PM (jE38p)

64 Anyway, I guess I'm just tired of the Shouting. That's why you have us to be all SHOUTY!!1! for you. YOU'RE WELCOME.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 17, 2013 02:00 PM (QupBk)

65
McKay...what a great name for a guy.

isn't he te same douche who thought Romney, of all people, would say something stupid at one of the debates?

Yeah, that's him...

He will be joining Jack Stuff in the breadline soon.

Romney, really a stupid guy, yulp. Got that...he's so dumb. Just so stupid.

But McKay, not a bigot or a simpleton or anytihng...not with a name like McKay Coppins.

That just tells you he comes from somewhere a lot better than you. Plus the glasses, great glasses.

He is better than me. I feel so worthless, because he is so great.

Posted by: Rev dr E buzz at January 17, 2013 02:00 PM (raGXo)

I personally have no problem with liberals being scared to death of guns. I donÂ´t want 'em shooting back when it comes time to clean house.

Posted by: Harry at January 17, 2013 02:00 PM (ib4tw)

67 Schrodinger's Cat. You mean the early early days when people huddled in computer labs at VT-100 terminals using FTP to download stuff?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:00 PM (Gyp4x)

68 PG. Wow. Did he finally try to kill the purple dinosaur?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:01 PM (Gyp4x)

69 Leftards are scared of everyfukkinthing. Thats why they want a nanny state government. A surrogate parent, to take care of them. Yeah, they deserve whatever evil mother nature can dream up for them.

Posted by: maddogg at January 17, 2013 02:02 PM (OlN4e)

70 barney the dinosaur's creator's son was arrested for......ATTEMPTED MURDER....

I could see how that could mess a kid up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 17, 2013 02:02 PM (p/cQy)

71 The official "Death of Superman" storyline was in 1992. I fell for it, too, buying my first comic in several years.

What an effing sucker I am.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:02 PM (H84UO)

72 68, no before that, when we argued that bbs was better then a listserv

Posted by: Jean at January 17, 2013 02:03 PM (DcbLC)

73 this struck a chord from the atlantic piece: But anyone who knows anything about gun culture knows one thing: Gun nuts don't do irony. eh?

Posted by: beach thursday at January 17, 2013 02:03 PM (LpQbZ)

74 Sometimes a story is so out-there it seems like it's gotta be true. Not that one. That one wouldn't get past the bs detector for anyone who has stood near a hipster for any time in any line. And, my momma done told me to consider the source.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 17, 2013 02:03 PM (Sptt8)

75 This is the kind of crap that happens when you rush an ill conceived law into effect. Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2013 05:59 PM (jE38p) Imma just laugh my ass off if they end up punishing their Praetorian Guard. Or just ignoring the law like they do with everything that inconveniences them. It's *all* ill-conceived crap, not just the part where they forgot to exempt themselves.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 17, 2013 02:04 PM (bxiXv)

76 THE Jim Shooter? The a@@hole who brought us the 12 issue "Secret Wars"? He doesn't have the moral authority to speak on gimmicky, poorly written comix.

I have been waiting since 1984 to say this. Thank you, I feel much better now.

Posted by: Gordon at January 17, 2013 02:04 PM (+vbeE)

77 Oh fine, let me drag out of the cave of antique computer junk the dreaded 300 baud modem.

WOPRS, "Want to play a game?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:04 PM (Gyp4x)

78 Schrodinger's Cat. You mean the early early days when people huddled in computer labs at VT-100 terminals using FTP to download stuff?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 06:00 PM (Gyp4x)

At 300 Baud using an analog modem. True story, I got sent to Chicago to an IT meeting with a portable computer the size of a suitcase with an analog modem that you smashed the phone into the rubber cups. They were spending X thousands of dollars to send me to this User Group meeting and yet I was on call, so I had to have a computer. Thank goodness, I did not have to use it.

I also remember programs on paper tape that only highly trained people could punch or read. I couldn't read them. The ladies that could were also expert at splicing those tapes together to make changes.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:04 PM (kXoT0)

79 How did the Green Lantern is gay story spike work out?

Posted by: Jean at January 17, 2013 02:04 PM (DcbLC)

80 Well He is a perp-le dinosaur.

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:05 PM (nqBYe)

81 Damn! These threads move too fast.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 17, 2013 02:05 PM (bb5+k)

82 "Schrodinger's Cat. You mean the early early days when people huddled in computer labs at VT-100 terminals using FTP to download stuff?"
===============

I was thinking probably just the days before the AOL people migrated out from AOL and started spreading their cretinism far and wide.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:05 PM (H84UO)

This reminds me of a line from "Don't Trust the Bitch in Apt. 23" (surprisingly decent, thought I'd hate it but didn't). It was something about buying a rape whistle and making sure not to get raped next to a marching band.

Heh, I've seen a few episodes (don't you all dare judge me!) and I'd have to agree. It actually gets quite a few digs in a the left and SWPL culture.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 17, 2013 02:05 PM (o1kXv)

84 Did that turd Beauchamp get drummed out of the service? Hopefully so, complete with patches torn off his uniform and saber broken in half. His wife is just as big a shitbird. As for comics, well, I still have all my late 80s and early 90s Batman and X-Men comics, which were all quite good.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Ballz Und Sheft at January 17, 2013 02:05 PM (0SmH0)

Completely on topic, I'm getting an ad on the main page that claims something (some food) will "Kill Blood Pressure".

Ooookay.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 02:06 PM (SUKHu)

>>>I think I've just gotten a headache.

So, what? No Pancakes?

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2013 02:06 PM (MvyjT)

87 Typical AOL user went out int the wild and wooly Internet totally babes in the woods. And got raped for it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:07 PM (Gyp4x)

88 >>>THE Jim Shooter? The a@@hole who brought us the 12 issue "Secret Wars"? He doesn't have the moral authority to speak on gimmicky, poorly written comix. I half-sorta-know him. I like him. And the Secret Wars, sure. It was popular though. It was created I think in response to the huge popularity of DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths. The comic book industry has always been very imitative of what works. DC and Marvel have stolen so much from each other it's ridiculous. The X-Men were Marvel's ripoff of DC's Doom Patrol (if memory serves). Marvel has a whole book of barely-disguised JLA members for the explicit purpose of allowing Marvel to write JLA stories. The Fantastic Four were a conscious attempt to mimic the JLA. Etc. Don't hate the playah, hate the game.

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 02:07 PM (LCRYB)

89 Let me just repeat that Suddenly, for no apparent reason, sums up Marvel for the last ummmm 20 something years.

I say this as a Marvel girl.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 02:07 PM (Gk3SS)

90 Before proggers can stroke their gun dicks they would HAVE TO GROW DICKS!!1!. Apropos of nothing, the best way to read a long Ace post, and still get into the first 100 comments, is to read the opening paragraph and then skip to the close. Ace is a pretty classical writer, Opening Position, stuff that proves it in the middle, Killer Quotable Closing. I mean this as a complement, btw.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 17, 2013 02:07 PM (QupBk)

91 So when does the AoSHQ get a Hologram cover?

Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at January 17, 2013 02:07 PM (d0Dmj)

92 re: 'including by people on the right, because it offered them a reassuring and surprising storyline: that hipsters and assorted liberal d-bags were the new "gun nuts."'

[rehash of stuff I said in the last thread goes here]

This is bottom-line shit: You can't beat 'em if your dearest desire is to be one of/with them (because they're beating you).

The right (right) response to any variant of "And this just goes to show how, really, us and them, underneath all this fussin' 'n' feudin', we're a lot alike"--to the temptation of recognition--is "Fuck them and you." Have some goddamn dignity.

[analogy to Boehner, "the ACLU/EFF/etc. are motivated by our shared libertarian concerns," "natural conservatives," etc.]

Posted by: oblig., tired at January 17, 2013 02:07 PM (cePv8)

93 >>>I think I've just gotten a headache. -------- Whew! I think I'm safe tonight.

Posted by: Marco Rubio's Garbage at January 17, 2013 02:07 PM (b+8h9)

94 But anyone who knows anything about gun culture knows one thing: Gun nuts don't do irony. eh? Posted by: beach thursday at January 17, 2013 06:03 PM (LpQbZ) It's the perennial leftist slur. Irony is *cool* and makes you intellectually superior, so you denigrate other people for not "understanding" or using irony. Even if they do understand and do irony. Because reality has fuck-all to do with anything to a leftist. But you will notice that they always say this about their opposition, it's a classic European complaint about Americans. The last time I heard that form a European, I just said, "Oh, we get it, it's just not funny."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 17, 2013 02:08 PM (bxiXv)

95 Completely on topic, I'm getting an ad on the main page that claims something (some food) will "Kill Blood Pressure".

Ooookay.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 06:06 PM (SUKHu)

permanently kill,? blood pressure?

liver, i swear if someone force feeds it to me i'd surely die.

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:08 PM (nqBYe)

96 >>>This Carr dude sounds like a fucking prize. Seriously, unless you've got some kind of autism spectrum aversion to loud noises, or if you've been severely traumatized somehow in a way that involves firearms, how can firing a gun be horrifying?

I don't quite know how, but I managed to have a nap (wearing earplugs) after firing some guns the first time I went to a gun range.

Posted by: fb at January 17, 2013 02:08 PM (JVEmw)

97 Did anybody get ace the girls of steam punk?

Posted by: Jean at January 17, 2013 02:09 PM (DcbLC)

98 "THE Jim Shooter? The a@@hole who brought us the 12 issue "Secret Wars"? He doesn't have the moral authority to speak on gimmicky, poorly written comix.

I have been waiting since 1984 to say this. Thank you, I feel much better now."
===============

I just read this piece of crap a couple of months ago. Cannot believe it was such a huge freaking deal, but then you have to remember that it was written to appeal to retarded 10 year olds.

The supplemental material in the collection even admitted outright that the whole thing was nothing more than an attempt to sell badly made action figures.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:09 PM (H84UO)

99 Heh, I've seen a few episodes (don't you all dare judge me!) and I'd have to agree. It actually gets quite a few digs in a the left and SWPL culture. Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 17, 2013 06:05 PM (o1kXv) Also, it's absolutely fucking filthy and has a borderline Moron Lifestyle Approved type of humor

Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 02:09 PM (LEiGw)

100 Jim Shooter was editor of Spider-Man (I've seen it both ways, by the way, for real) when the Daily Bugle ran their awesome headline: SPIDER-MAN: THREAT OR MENACE? Gotta give him props just for that!

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 02:09 PM (LCRYB)

101

>>using FTP

You had FTP??

Posted by: Gopher walking uphill in the snow at 300 baud at January 17, 2013 02:09 PM (SUKHu)

102 Apropos of nothing, the best way to read a long Ace post, and still get into the first 100 comments, is to read the opening paragraph and then skip to the close. Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at January 17, 2013 06:07 PM (QupBk)

Wait, people here can read? Whoda thunkit? I thought we were reactionary Neanderthal Troglodytes bereft of any useful intellectual capital? Next, you are gonna tell me that Barack is gay or sumpin.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:09 PM (kXoT0)

103

Unless an exemption is added by the time the law takes effect in March, police would technically be in violation of the new gun measure.

This is the kind of crap that happens when you rush an ill conceived law into effect.

It's a nice fantasy to imagine the Republicans in the NY Senate blocking any attempt to fix the bill.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 17, 2013 02:09 PM (o1kXv)

104 You mean the early early days when people huddled in computer labs at VT-100 terminals using FTP to download stuff? You're scaring me, man/woman. Cause I remember those days, configuring the scary parameters. I wish I could remember the names of the 'leading edge' utility programs I used back then. I was pretty confident the unwashed masses in the 'general public' would never be able to figure out the multitude of configurations required to bring something of value into a computer. I liked it like that. Could you imagine what the Internet would be like today if people had to have some level of intelligence to navigate it? Better? Worse?

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at January 17, 2013 02:09 PM (feFL6)

105 AlextheChick as Ms Marvel?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:10 PM (Gyp4x)

106 Pursuant to my "stealth militia crackpot" initiative, I took one of the homemade AR15 lowers I got a week or so ago and added a lower receiver parts kit to it. So, I now have a complete, functional AR15 lower receiver that is not on any official records and has no identifying marks. Unfortunately, since I am broke, I have to do this build-up slowly, since even parting out an AR15 is pricey in these panicked times. However, since the current gun control proposals appear to be heading to a giant nothing-burger, I am hopeful that I will be able to acquire all the pieces and a sufficient stock of ammo in a month or so.

Posted by: David (NOT Dave!), infamous sockpuppet at January 17, 2013 02:10 PM (VG3nO)

107 Reality is relative to a relatively large swath of our population.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 17, 2013 02:10 PM (Sptt8)

108 Aquaman died and nobody even noticed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2013 02:10 PM (QKKT0)

109 88 Typical AOL user went out int the wild and wooly Internet totally babes in the woods. And got raped for it. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 06:07 PM (Gyp4x) Usenet felt kind of the other way, and called it "the September that never ended," for the influx of users with no acculturation to usenet that, ultimately, could not be absorbed and instead absorbed usenet. September being the traditional time that new university students first joined usenet.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 17, 2013 02:11 PM (bxiXv)

110 So a 1/4 inch steel tube that used to spit out 1/4 ounce pieces of metal using gas pressure is terrifying presumably because of the BANG! sound. Awwww don't worry widdle boy men are around to make sure you don't get huwt.

BTW risk-averse-boy stay away from motorcycles, flying in small planes, sky diving, rock climbing, spelunking, diving, rugby, skiing, snowboarding, surfing, that sh*t'll get you killed.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose of House Stark at January 17, 2013 02:11 PM (0q2P7)

111 Aquaman died and nobody even noticed. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2013 06:10 PM (QKKT0)

Shh, don't tell Kuthrapalli.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:11 PM (kXoT0)

112 Schrondinger's Cat. Heh. IF the original Mozilla had not crawled across an amber or green VT-100 screen. Where would the Internet be?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:11 PM (Gyp4x)

113 Ace: "After that, people catch on pretty quickly that Superman isn't going to die and so this is all An Stunt." This reminds me of reading (some, and far too many) black people twitter feeds, where, in order to sound like "an" literate person, ignorant ghetto EBT-swiping morons will throw in "an" instead of "a" every so often, with no thought as to where and why it is used.

Posted by: JDR-Taq at January 17, 2013 02:12 PM (e7KZr)

114 Eh, the first few times I went to the range I didn't enjoy it. Shortly after my range time I felt exhilarated, though.

It didn't help that I had a bad fireworks experience when I was a baby (parents took me to a show and I shook the whole time). Until I was a mid-teenager I didn't like fireworks. I felt jumpy.

I got over it. Now I just feel enjoyment at the range. It's oddly relaxing. I enjoy focusing on the mechanics of it, and trying to best myself.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2013 02:12 PM (WSuP7)

115 the "An ____" thing is from 4chan, I think.

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 02:12 PM (LCRYB)

116 liver, i swear if someone force feeds it to me i'd surely die. Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 06:08 PM (nqBYe) hehe, make liver noodles, and serve them in beef broth/soup you will all-of-a-sudden think liver is like candy

Posted by: beach thursday at January 17, 2013 02:13 PM (LpQbZ)

117 109 Aquaman died and nobody even noticed. ---------- Of course. Because Aquaman sucks. He sucks fish pee. He's the Scooter of the Justice League.

Posted by: Dr. Rajesh Kuthrapali at January 17, 2013 02:13 PM (b+8h9)

118 BREAKING: Superman rapes Batman to death!!!

UPDATE: After further review, it turns out they had a couple beers together but there was no rape or death involved.

Posted by: Buzzfeed at January 17, 2013 02:13 PM (SY2Kh)

119 This reminds me of reading (some, and far too many) black people twitter feeds, where, in order to sound like "an" literate person, ignorant ghetto EBT-swiping morons will throw in "an" instead of "a" every so often, with no thought as to where and why it is used. Ha! Mrs928 follows someone on facebook who uses 'whom' everywhere you should use 'who'. Not just wrong some of the time, wrong every time.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 17, 2013 02:13 PM (QupBk)

120 >>>AlextheChick as Ms Marvel?

I was thinking more She-Hulk

Posted by: MikeTheMoose of House Stark at January 17, 2013 02:13 PM (0q2P7)

121 I got nothin'

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 17, 2013 02:14 PM (8sCoq)

122 Hipsters and assorted liberal d-bags love "gun nuts." You heard it here first.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:14 PM (eqgV8)

123 Aquaman died and nobody even noticed.

Drowning?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 17, 2013 02:14 PM (p/cQy)

124 Aquaman died and nobody even noticed. Drowning? Ironically, dessication. He looked like a booger when he died.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 17, 2013 02:15 PM (QupBk)

125 "Treyvon was an good kid. He had an bag of skittles."

Posted by: JDR-Taq at January 17, 2013 02:15 PM (e7KZr)

126 >>AlextheChick as Ms Marvel?

I was thinking more She-Hulk

Posted by: MikeTheMoose of House Stark at January 17, 2013 06:13 PM (0q2P7)

Yeeow

*nervously waits for the shit to start flying*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2013 02:15 PM (QKKT0)

127 O/T: Teh Other McCain is being subtle again with this headline: "The Filthy Rotten Party of Corruption, Treason, Fraud, Sodomy and Abortion".

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 02:16 PM (SUKHu)

128 "I'm sophisticated and intelligent and have an bottle of Cristal, homes."

Posted by: JDR-Taq at January 17, 2013 02:16 PM (e7KZr)

129 using FTP

You had FTP??

Beats homing pigeon.

Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at January 17, 2013 02:16 PM (d0Dmj)

130 On the stunt comics thing, I'll admit that I would punch a manatee if it got me the Rorschach and Deadpool show.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 02:16 PM (Gk3SS)

131 Ha! Was going through stuff to donate and my Financial Accounting || book was filled with doodles of ocean waves, axes and occasionally axes on the waves, for when the teacher would "Pacifically axe" me something.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 17, 2013 02:16 PM (Sptt8)

132 They kinda killed Superman in the 60's when Lex Luthor infected Superman with bacteria laced with kryptonite. The Bizarro supermen unwittingly saved him by throwing white kryptonite at Superman's space coffin just before it fell into the Sun.

Posted by: eman at January 17, 2013 02:16 PM (tBnjP)

133 "BREAKING: Superman rapes Batman to death!!!"
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Okay, I've got to admit it: I'd buy this.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:16 PM (H84UO)

134 Yeah I had FTP so I could get my anime pictures.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:17 PM (Gyp4x)

135 Batman was the Harry Reid of Gotham.

Posted by: Robin at January 17, 2013 02:17 PM (QupBk)

136 Of course. Because Aquaman sucks. He sucks fish pee. He's the Scooter of the Justice League. Posted by: Dr. Rajesh Kuthrapali at January 17, 2013 06:13 PM (b+8h9) You say that, but theoretically, he could summit Cthulhu, or at least whatever Megalodon sharks that still live in deep ocean trenches.

Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 02:18 PM (LEiGw)

137 128 O/T: Teh Other McCain is being subtle again with this headline: "The Filthy Rotten Party of Corruption, Treason, Fraud, Sodomy and Abortion". Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 06:16 PM (SUKHu) Subtlety through incompleteness?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 17, 2013 02:18 PM (bxiXv)

138 AlextheChick as Ms Marvel?

I was thinking more She-Hulk

Xena: The Warrior Princess.

Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at January 17, 2013 02:18 PM (d0Dmj)

139 Larry Niven on Superman - Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:18 PM (Gyp4x)

140 Number of comic books $20 would buy in 1990: 20 (or 12-15, if you liked Dark Horse) Number of comic books the inflation-adjusted equivalent buys today: 6 or 7 It's just not possible, even if you have a comic book shop next door, for a kid to stay current on a single universe, let alone several publishers.

Posted by: Truman North at January 17, 2013 02:18 PM (Di7HK)

141

This story about Manti Te'o and his fake girlfriend is just....too bizzare.

He went on and on about her, at length...and he never even met her?

wtf?

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 02:18 PM (fH4X9)

142 liver, i swear if someone force feeds it to me i'd surely die.
Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 06:08 PM (nqBYe)

I miss my the way my Mom fixed calve's liver and onions. It was better than the finest filet mignon. First you fry several strips of thin sliced bacon in an iron skillet. You should have at least 1 inch of bacon fat to cook in from the bacon. Meanwhile, take liver, cut in strips, and pound lightly it with a meat hammer to tenderize it, dredge it in flour and fry it in the bacon grease. After turning it twice, fry thinly sliced white onions on top of the liver. After the liver and onions are finished, remove most of the drippings from the skillet, and make gravy with the remaining flour.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:19 PM (kXoT0)

143 Mama AJ What's he saying? Dammit! Why does RSM always have to be so vague?

Posted by: JDR-Taq at January 17, 2013 02:19 PM (e7KZr)

144 I added a jpg of J. Jonah Jameson's media bias, which is strangely reminiscent of the media bias in the real world.

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 02:19 PM (LCRYB)

145 131 On the stunt comics thing, I'll admit that I would punch a manatee if it got me the Rorschach and Deadpool show. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 06:16 PM (Gk3SS) +1!!!!

Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 02:19 PM (LEiGw)

146 Wait, I have a hipster douchebag gun nut in my family-in-law.

So this is all wrong.

Posted by: jeanne at January 17, 2013 02:19 PM (GdalM)

147

131On the stunt comics thing, I'll admit that I would punch a manatee if it got me the Rorschach and Deadpool show.

Punching a manatee! Alex you made me laugh. Gotta add that one to my repertoire

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Ballz Und Sheft at January 17, 2013 02:19 PM (0SmH0)

148 Buzzfeed's shit's fucked up and it talks like a fag. Also, The sister sites are all 'tards.

Posted by: Truman North at January 17, 2013 02:19 PM (Di7HK)

149

So when does the AoSHQ get a Hologram cover?

When you upgrade to the Premium Subscription.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 17, 2013 02:20 PM (yiIja)

150
I see Chris Christie is going full Dem now.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 17, 2013 02:20 PM (p/cQy)

151 Just read the wiki of Aquaman. His character origin stories are better than any f his "adventures". Who knew he had an amnesiac bro named Orm? Not me.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 17, 2013 02:20 PM (ZshNr)

152 IF the original Mozilla had not crawled across an amber or green VT-100 screen. Where would the Internet be? So-called 'splash-screens' in ASCII. The way it was meant to be. Big old char 219 blocks. My 'ZAC catalog' mouse pad still has an ASCII chart on it. As if I couldn't remember a couple hundred characters and write code in about half a dozen languages.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at January 17, 2013 02:21 PM (feFL6)

153 "142 This story about Manti Te'o and his fake girlfriend is just....too bizzare. He went on and on about her, at length...and he never even met her? wtf? Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 06:18 PM (fH4X9) " Well, you can't meet fake people. :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:21 PM (eqgV8)

154

145 I added a jpg of J. Jonah Jameson's media bias, which is strangely reminiscent of the media bias in the real world.

Love it, Ace. ...It's perfect.

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 02:21 PM (fH4X9)

155 She's a manatee-punching, raptor-herding, Timbits-hoarding fool! Okay, "hoarding" is not the right word.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 17, 2013 02:21 PM (bxiXv)

156 So when does the AoSHQ get a Hologram cover?

When you upgrade to the Premium Subscription.

Jeez. You'd think the Platinum 1T subscription would get it.

Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at January 17, 2013 02:21 PM (d0Dmj)

157 O/T: Teh Other McCain is being subtle again with this headline: "The Filthy Rotten Party of Corruption, Treason, Fraud, Sodomy and Abortion".

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 06:16 PM (SUKHu)

I had to go check that out. Yup, sums it up succinctly.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 17, 2013 02:21 PM (bb5+k)

158 I was thinking more She-Hulk
Posted by: MikeTheMoose of House Stark at January 17, 2013 06:13 PM (0q2P7)

How dare you! That's so mean! That makes me angry!

ALEXSMASH!!!!!!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 02:22 PM (Gk3SS)

159 >>>Yeeow
*nervously waits for the shit to start flying*

If you knew anything about She-Hulk you would know it isn't in any way disparaging.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 17, 2013 02:22 PM (0q2P7)

160 "145 I added a jpg of J. Jonah Jameson's media bias, which is strangely reminiscent of the media bias in the real world. Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 06:19 PM (LCRYB)" :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:22 PM (eqgV8)

161 Alan Moore may be a horrendous anarchist asshole, but e did give the world Rorschach and the LOEG version or Mr. Hyde, and for that, I thank him.

Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 02:22 PM (LEiGw)

162 Read AlextheChick Action Comics!

If not, she will punch a manatee in the next issue!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:22 PM (Gyp4x)

163 Well, you can't meet fake people.

The hell you can't. Spend some time at a country club.

Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at January 17, 2013 02:22 PM (d0Dmj)

164 "Number of comic books the inflation-adjusted equivalent buys today: 6 or 7"
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I used to casually drop about $20-$30 a week on comics until about 5 years ago. Recently I noticed my old comic book store had a lot of pro-Obama crap in the storefront.

Even if I were still buying, the recent payroll tax increase would have eliminated that discretionary spending. I hope that's true for lots of this guy's customers and that he's tasting the full rainbow.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:22 PM (H84UO)

165 >>>It's just not possible, even if you have a comic book shop next door, for a kid to stay current on a single universe, let alone several publishers. yeah that kept me from being a consumer, actually. As much as I wanted to be a comic book reader, I found I couldn't be. They would note all these storylines that had occurred in other books (and popular heroes had 3 books just by themselves -- now Batman has like 5!!!). It was good cross-promotion, but if you have the Completist bent, like I do, you realize you cannot possibly read them all, and so you're faced with a choice: read only some of them, and not get to be a Completist, or read none of them? I chose "none of them," mostly. Though I did get hooked on Spider-Man for a period later on, as a high-schooler. (And then that just got silly.)

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 02:23 PM (LCRYB)

166 http://marvel.com/universe/She-Hulk

Just how I picture my homegirl, AtC.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:23 PM (kXoT0)

167

154...Well, you can't meet fake people. :-P

Exactly.

But he said that she was "the most beautiful girl he'd ever met".

And now he's saying he was 'hoaxed'.

But he added to the hoax.

It's really bizarre.

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 02:23 PM (fH4X9)

168 This story about Manti Te'o and his fake girlfriend is just....too bizzare. Yeah, a lyin' Hawaiian. Who'd a thunk there could ever be such a thing?

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at January 17, 2013 02:23 PM (feFL6)

169 Wheatie; Absence makes the heart grow fonder?

I have a personal belief, the best relationships are those where you don't actually have to wash his underwear.

Beach, still no . just.can't.do.it!

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:23 PM (nqBYe)

170
I was thinking more She-Hulk

Oddly appropriate considering the legal profession thing.

Alex Smash!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 17, 2013 02:24 PM (FzhYM)

171 "164 Well, you can't meet fake people. The hell you can't. Spend some time at a country club. Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at January 17, 2013 06:22 PM (d0Dmj) " Heh.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:24 PM (eqgV8)

172 hands alex, the flame thrower,

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:24 PM (nqBYe)

173 I added a jpg of J. Jonah Jameson's media bias, which is strangely reminiscent of the media bias in the real world.

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 06:19 PM (LCRYB)

I never thought of it till you mentioned it, but What JJJ did to Spiderman is exactly what the media routinely does to conservatives. JJJ should be the poster child for Media Bias.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 17, 2013 02:25 PM (bb5+k)

174 Fake people, spent time at a political fund raiser?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:25 PM (Gyp4x)

175 Mohawk "I see Chris Christie is going full Dem now." It's really surprising to me (not) how many people were told this by people like myself when he was in his "conservative TEA Party cred" prime are now surprised that I was right all along. Soirees with the Dem elite (with PICS!) didn't even help to reinforce this fact. That and he eats like he has an unlimited EBT card.

Posted by: JDR-Taq at January 17, 2013 02:25 PM (e7KZr)

176 She-Hulk's a dirty whore. No really she is I think. (I think she's slept with every major unmarried dude in the Marvel universe.)

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 02:25 PM (LCRYB)

177 So when does the AoSHQ get a Hologram cover?

Posted by: rickb223

AoSHQ is 'zine format only. Go find some other rag for your corporate, sell-out propaganda fix!!!eleventy!!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 17, 2013 02:25 PM (KDq5l)

178 "I added a jpg of J. Jonah Jameson's media bias, which is strangely reminiscent of the media bias in the real world."
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Heh. Shooter fancies himself a libertarian, too, I think.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:25 PM (H84UO)

179 Barack 0bama: SCOAMF or SCOAMT?

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 17, 2013 02:25 PM (0Iz1g)

180 BREAKING: AoSHQ CoBlogger Murders Head Ewok! "No More ONT! He Screams!" Read the Shocking Bloodbath Ending in the Comments Thread!

Posted by: Daybrother at January 17, 2013 02:26 PM (+paCV)

181 hands alex, the flame thrower,

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 06:24 PM (nqBYe)

No need at the moment, She Hulk is awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 02:26 PM (Gk3SS)

182 Oh, yeah, color me shocked at Chrispy Creme going full Dem.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:26 PM (kXoT0)

183

169...Yeah, a lyin' Hawaiian. Who'd a thunk there could ever be such a thing?

Shit, I hadn't even thought of that comparison.

Hah!

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 02:26 PM (fH4X9)

184

>>I had to go check that out. Yup, sums it up succinctly.

Now I'm reading the linked critisism of Nat'l Review.

Ouchy.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 02:26 PM (SUKHu)

185

2. just making up bullshit to scare the omegas (see Huxley and how they keep omegas from reading books)

You might want to re-read your Huxley, joe.

It's Epsilons, or as best, Deltas.

He also made the Epsilons black, so, you know . . . . RACIST!!!

Posted by: imp at January 17, 2013 02:26 PM (UaxA0)

186 >>>but What JJJ did to Spiderman is exactly what the media routinely does to conservatives. exactly. If there's any crime, JJJ immediately claims it was Spiderman. Or: *WAS SPIDER-MAN INVOLVED???* Pretty much swap "Tea Party" for Spider-Man and you know the past five years of media coverage of politics.

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 02:26 PM (LCRYB)

187 "166 >>>It's just not possible, even if you have a comic book shop next door, for a kid to stay current on a single universe, let alone several publishers. yeah that kept me from being a consumer, actually. As much as I wanted to be a comic book reader, I found I couldn't be. They would note all these storylines that had occurred in other books (and popular heroes had 3 books just by themselves -- now Batman has like 5!!!). It was good cross-promotion, but if you have the Completist bent, like I do, you realize you cannot possibly read them all, and so you're faced with a choice: read only some of them, and not get to be a Completist, or read none of them? I chose "none of them," mostly. Though I did get hooked on Spider-Man for a period later on, as a high-schooler. (And then that just got silly.) Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 06:23 PM (LCRYB) " Piracy.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:27 PM (eqgV8)

188 No really she is I think. (I think she's slept with every major unmarried dude in the Marvel universe.) Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 06:25 PM (LCRYB)

Do NOT make me give you the ladyparts lecture!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:27 PM (kXoT0)

189 alex, well alright but....

She-Hulk's a dirty whore.

No really she is I think. (I think she's slept with every major unmarried dude in the Marvel universe.)

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 06:25 PM (LCRYB)

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:27 PM (nqBYe)

190 i'm bored

stir, stir.

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:28 PM (nqBYe)

191 "168 154...Well, you can't meet fake people. :-P Exactly. But he said that she was "the most beautiful girl he'd ever met". And now he's saying he was 'hoaxed'. But he added to the hoax. It's really bizarre. Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 06:23 PM (fH4X9) " Well, he probably wasn't hoaxed...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:28 PM (eqgV8)

192 Anyone check the White House menu to see if TFG eats those staples of Hawai'i - spam and tuna? I would think that would be a scandal if he didn't/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:28 PM (Gyp4x)

193 Uh yeah and we'd be doing peachy if Obama would just "fix the economy."

I'll consider going back to comics when the writers give me a reason to care about the funny pajama'd folk and they stop trying to make me the villain.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2013 02:28 PM (LRFds)

194 "169 This story about Manti Te'o and his fake girlfriend is just....too bizzare. Yeah, a lyin' Hawaiian. Who'd a thunk there could ever be such a thing? Posted by: SchrÃ¶dinger's cat at January 17, 2013 06:23 PM (feFL6) " :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:28 PM (eqgV8)

195 i admit i've never read a comic book. and know nothing of a hulk tress

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:29 PM (nqBYe)

196 I prefer SCOAMTT. Stuttering Clusterf@ck of a Miserable Tyrant Traitor. It's hard to choose, though, or get it all in. There's only so many letters, so many words...

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 17, 2013 02:29 PM (Sptt8)

197 She-Hulk's a dirty whore.

No really she is I think. (I think she's slept with every major unmarried dude in the Marvel universe.)

No. Not every one.

Posted by: Aquaman at January 17, 2013 02:29 PM (QKKT0)

198

170 Wheatie; Absence makes the heart grow fonder?

I have a personal belief, the best relationships are those where you don't actually have to wash his underwear.

-------

Meh...I don't mind washing his underwear...

I just don't look inside!

No stain patrol on the skivies. Whatever doesn't come out, he has to face the next time he puts them on.

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 02:30 PM (fH4X9)

199 alex, well alright but....

She-Hulk's a dirty whore.

As I said, awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 02:30 PM (Gk3SS)

200 Manti Te'o wanted to win the Heisman. So he embroidered his little sampler for the media, except, oops, he got caught.

BTW, all my Liberal Catholic co-workers believe him that he was catfished.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:30 PM (kXoT0)

201 23 Ms Puma,

I'm doing my part after the "before the Watchman" run I think my boy is walking away from the hobby.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2013 02:30 PM (LRFds)

202 On the whole, I'd much rather have the thousands of dollars that I spent on comics over the decades (yup) than the vast majority of the experiences I had reading even the best of the comics.

Most of the really good ones you can get for free at the library, anyway.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:30 PM (H84UO)

203

She-Hulk's a dirty whore.

No really she is I think. (I think she's slept with every major unmarried dude in the Marvel universe.) Posted by: ace

With all that gamma irradiated testosterone coursing through her, she could probably peg you with her cooter, ace.

Posted by: imp at January 17, 2013 02:30 PM (UaxA0)

204 "175 Fake people, spent time at a political fund raiser? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 06:25 PM (Gyp4x) " No such thing in the Mirror Universe. :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:30 PM (eqgV8)

205 Krispy Kreme played a good game of "Dozens" with the Unions in his state, for the cameras, while gorging on the unlimited, lifetime supply of thick-sliced bacon supplied by his Democrat handlers. And the TEA Partiers ate that shlt up.

Posted by: JDR-Taq at January 17, 2013 02:31 PM (e7KZr)

206

>>But he said that she was "the most beautiful girl he'd ever met".

I can only think of one possible explanation for why someone would invent a girlfriend, with help from a close male friend.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 02:31 PM (SUKHu)

207 NY Gun Ban Bill Forgets to Exempt Police

Wa-wa.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 17, 2013 02:32 PM (KDq5l)

208 176 JDR-Taq,

if you'll recall I said I enjoyed him mocking the teachers and that he was as GOP as Joisey allowed...well it is obvious now Joisey won't allow any GOP.

I'm not bothered anymore I wish him the best of success and perhaps President of HIS nation if we split.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2013 02:32 PM (LRFds)

209 I can only think of one possible explanation for why someone would invent a girlfriend, with help from a close male friend. Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 06:31 PM (SUKHu)

Why, bless their hearts.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:32 PM (kXoT0)

210 wheatie, perfect way to handle the the carp in life.

alex, LOL (actually did)

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:32 PM (nqBYe)

211 "BTW, all my Liberal Catholic co-workers believe him that he was catfished."
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I'm starting to wonder myself. I mean, he's Mormon, and I love the Mormons, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn that a bunch of them are naive dupes.

And yeah, he claimed that he'd spent time with the woman in person, but maybe THAT'S the part he lied about. Maybe he was just too embarrassed to admit that he'd gotten so deeply involved with someone he knew only via the telephone and Internet.

Or else he's a big fat stinky lying liar.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:32 PM (H84UO)

212 I've been watching old Batman TV episodes on YouTube. Part of my news avoidance regimen. Plenty of villains I'd forgotten, and plenty of hot little lasses I never fully appreciated the first time around. False Face, Mad Hatter, Bookworm.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 17, 2013 02:33 PM (ZshNr)

213 "177 She-Hulk's a dirty whore. No really she is I think. (I think she's slept with every major unmarried dude in the Marvel universe.) Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 06:25 PM (LCRYB) " Well, the Hulk was a profound character. She-Hulk is merely profoundly lame.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (eqgV8)

214 crap even*

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (nqBYe)

215 Posted by: lincolntf at January 17, 2013 06:20 PM (ZshNr)

Must be feeling better. Flu can be a nasty business.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (bb5+k)

216

207...I can only think of one possible explanation for why someone would invent a girlfriend, with help from a close male friend.

Yeah, I wondered about that too, Mama AJ.

But then, in this day and age...why would he need to keep it a secret if he was gay?

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (fH4X9)

217 "180 Barack 0bama: SCOAMF or SCOAMT? Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 17, 2013 06:25 PM (0Iz1g) " T.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (eqgV8)

218

I think I read that his father said he'd met the girl??

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (SUKHu)

219 uh oh.

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (nqBYe)

220 The Association of Teacher Educators has recruited Chicago professor Â– and former domestic terrorist Â– William Ayers to speak at their the 2013 Annual Meeting in Atlanta, Georgia which will be held next month. William Ayers, a co-founder of the radical Weather Underground domestic terror group, was a key figure during the 2008 presidential campaign due to his Chicago ties to then-Senator Obama. The organizationÂ’s executive director, David Ritchey, confirmed that Ayers would be a keynote speaker at the conference although he admitted that he wasnÂ’t involved in the selection process.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (jE38p)

221 NY Gun Ban Bill Forgets to Exempt Police Wa-wa. Schadenboner & Ewokawood!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2013 02:35 PM (d0Dmj)

222 BTW, all my Liberal Catholic co-workers believe him that he was catfished."
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I'm starting to wonder myself. I mean, he's Mormon, and I love the Mormons, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn that a bunch of them are naive dupes. Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 06:32 PM (H84UO)

They believe him because of the sanctity of ND. Working with these Liberal Catholics is a Master's level course in "Magical Thinking."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:35 PM (kXoT0)

223 Well, the Hulk was a profound character. She-Hulk is merely profoundly lame. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 06:34 PM (eqgV

Besides, Deadpool does her fourth wall schtick infinitely better.

Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 02:35 PM (LEiGw)

224 On the whole, I'd much rather have the thousands of dollars that I spent on comics over the decades (yup) than the vast majority of the experiences I had reading even the best of the comics.

Most of the really good ones you can get for free at the library, anyway.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 06:30 PM (H84UO)

I came of age in the webcomic era, where they're pretty much all free.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 17, 2013 02:35 PM (NmR1a)

225 Manti Te'o actually said that they slept together on the phone.

If that goes on for more than 4 hours you can't even call your Doc.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (aZ6ew)

226 I think I read that his father said he'd met the girl?? Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 06:34 PM (SUKHu) One of the rumors going around is that the fake girlfriend was just a "beard"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (jE38p)

227 Chris Christie says he is disgusted when a politician's children are targeted by the media. Where the EFF was he when Sarah Palin's children were being called horrible names and her youngest mocked for not being aborted?. Eff him!!

Posted by: Jmel at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (9tSXa)

228 But then, in this day and age...why would he need to keep it a secret if he was gay? Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 06:34 PM (fH4X9)

An Hawaiian Mormon at Notre Dame feeling the need to disguise his sexuality, nah, could not happen.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (kXoT0)

229 Lots cheered the Fat Man because of his smackdown of the unions...other than that and few other token gestures. I could not hear from him again and be happy

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (FIDMq)

230 "They believe him because of the sanctity of ND."
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Oh. Well that's just stupid, then.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (H84UO)

231 Ok, who in the fuck names their kid 'McKay'?

or 'Elspeth'

Jesus H. Christ...no wonder these people grow up to be FuckTards....

Posted by: Portnoy at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (A5Abh)

232 Absence makes the ~~heart grow~~ hardon fonder firmer? FTFY - if Pixy allows such HTML manipulation.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (feFL6)

233 "187 >>>but What JJJ did to Spiderman is exactly what the media routinely does to conservatives. exactly. If there's any crime, JJJ immediately claims it was Spiderman. Or: *WAS SPIDER-MAN INVOLVED???* Pretty much swap "Tea Party" for Spider-Man and you know the past five years of media coverage of politics. Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 06:26 PM (LCRYB) " 5 Years? George Bush was getting Spidermanized... (Reagan.) (Nixon.) (Yeah, I said Nixon.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (eqgV8)

234 Besides, Deadpool does her fourth wall schtick infinitely better. Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 06:35 PM (LEiGw)

Let's be fair, I believe the Horde knows that if I can't be Rorschach, then I want to be Deadpool.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (Gk3SS)

235 "They believe him because of the sanctity of ND."
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Oh. Well that's just stupid, then.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 06:37 PM (H84UO)

Oh, you have met my boss and co-workers, why didn't you say so!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (kXoT0)

236 But then, in this day and age...why would he need to keep it a secret if he was gay? ---------- I don't think the dudes he shared a locker room with or his devout Mormon family care much about "this day and age".

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (b+8h9)

237

The Association of Teacher Educators has recruited Chicago professor Â– and former domestic terrorist Â– William Ayers to speak at their the 2013 Annual Meeting in Atlanta, Georgia which will be held next month.

I'd like to have a talk with Little Billy.

In a dark alley.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (yiIja)

238 I'm better, not fully back up to speed.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (ZshNr)

239 It was good cross-promotion, but if you have the Completist bent, like I do, you realize you cannot possibly read them all, and so you're faced with a choice: read only some of them, and not get to be a Completist, or read none of them?

I chose "none of them," mostly. Though I did get hooked on Spider-Man for a period later on, as a high-schooler. (And then that just got silly.)

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 06:23 PM (LCRYB)

High functioning Asperger's no doubt. Me too.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (bb5+k)

240 The Association of Teacher Educators has recruited Chicago professor Â– and former domestic terrorist Â– William Ayers to speak at their the 2013 Annual Meeting in Atlanta, Georgia which will be held next month.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2013 06:34 PM (jE38p)

i cannot get over how naive i've been throughout my life

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (nqBYe)

241 "189 No really she is I think. (I think she's slept with every major unmarried dude in the Marvel universe.) Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 06:25 PM (LCRYB) Do NOT make me give you the ladyparts lecture! Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 06:27 PM (kXoT0) " What's the ladyparts lecture? Sounds kind of fun.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (eqgV8)

242 "I came of age in the webcomic era, where they're pretty much all free."
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And it's not awkward reading digital comics? The idea of sitting hunched over a monitor scrolling through a page just seems really unpleasant, never mind using something with a small screen like a smart phone.

What am I not appreciating?

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (H84UO)

243 Let's be fair, I believe the Horde knows that if I can't be Rorschach, then I want to be Deadpool. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 06:38 PM (Gk3SS) Does that mean I can claim Hyde, minus, you know, the raping people to death bit?

Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (LEiGw)

244 Let's be fair, I believe the Horde knows that if I can't be Rorschach, then I want to be Deadpool.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 06:38 PM (Gk3SS)

How many hobos have you sent down elevator shafts?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (NmR1a)

245 What's the ladyparts lecture? Sounds kind of fun.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 06:38 PM (eqgV

See my post at #42.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (kXoT0)

246 i cannot get over how naive i've been throughout my life Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 06:38 PM (nqBYe) Your not naive. To be honest the left outsmarted us. They came out from underground and infested the schools. We missed that one. And we are now paying for that in spades

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2013 02:40 PM (jE38p)

247
Ouchy.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 06:26 PM (SUKHu)

Stacy McCain is a pretty good wordsmith. I like his style.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 17, 2013 02:41 PM (bb5+k)

248 How many hobos have you sent down elevator shafts?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 17, 2013 06:39 PM (NmR1a)

Stand right there, no, a bit to the left, that's it, and I'll tell you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 02:42 PM (Gk3SS)

249 "224 Well, the Hulk was a profound character. She-Hulk is merely profoundly lame. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 06:34 PM (eqgV Besides, Deadpool does her fourth wall schtick infinitely better. Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 06:35 PM (LEiGw) " Deadpool's quite the character.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:42 PM (eqgV8)

250 And yet these 2 hipsters d-bags who are calling Buzzfeed out about misquoting/misrepresenting them, will *still* buy everything they run about Obama and/or the GOP without question.

Posted by: angienc at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (w3JGl)

251 How many hobos have you sent down elevator shafts? Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 17, 2013 06:39 PM (NmR1a)

It is like shoes, it would be wrong to count them.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (kXoT0)

252 sven, I did understand that. I also admit to being slightly man-crushy toward his tubbiness as well, for a very short time. Until I realized that he was also an Obama sycophant, like more than 95% of so-called TEA Party candidates end up being, after fooling the clean-living folks in lawn chairs with "Don't Tread on Me" flags and trays of nice cookies with their bullshit.

Posted by: JDR-Taq at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (e7KZr)

253 Does that mean I can claim Hyde, minus, you know, the raping people to death bit? Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 06:39 PM (LEiGw)

Sure!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (Gk3SS)

254 -- Chris Christie says he is disgusted when a politician's children are targeted by the media. Where the EFF was he when Sarah Palin's children were being called horrible names and her youngest mocked for not being aborted?. --

He was listening to a Springsteen CD, with a hard-on. After polishing off a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts.

Posted by: Liontooth at January 17, 2013 02:44 PM (xk0Xg)

255

Oh yeah...I forgot that Manti was Mormon.

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 02:44 PM (fH4X9)

256 Buzzfeed can go suck it, but I'm really enjoying this discussion of comics and Internet culture.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (H84UO)

257 And it's not awkward reading digital comics? The idea of sitting hunched over a monitor scrolling through a page just seems really unpleasant, never mind using something with a small screen like a smart phone.

What am I not appreciating?

Doesn't seem awkward to me, but I grew up sitting in front of a computer, and I'd expect one to make it comfortable. (You don't find it awkward reading AoS, do you?)

It's certainly not the same as reading a comic book on the floor or couch, but well, it's free. (And some webcomics do offer print versions) Also far less likely to involve stupid "buy our next issue" gimmick plotlines.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (IrbU4)

258 247 Nevergiveup "And we are now paying for that in spades" While explaining our realization of that fact ON 'Spades even.

Posted by: JDR-Taq at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (e7KZr)

259 I would wonder which character would I be. Except already am. Go read Dominion Tank Police! Its all Leona's fault anyway.

And I am out of here. Go slurp pizza with friends and then go bowling.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (Gyp4x)

260 "And yet these 2 hipsters d-bags who are calling Buzzfeed out about misquoting/misrepresenting them, will *still* buy everything they run about Obama and/or the GOP without question."
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THIS!

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:46 PM (H84UO)

261 Oh but it was wearing that tight button pillow back.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 17, 2013 02:46 PM (0q2P7)

262 "240 It was good cross-promotion, but if you have the Completist bent, like I do, you realize you cannot possibly read them all, and so you're faced with a choice: read only some of them, and not get to be a Completist, or read none of them? I chose "none of them," mostly. Though I did get hooked on Spider-Man for a period later on, as a high-schooler. (And then that just got silly.) Posted by: ace at January 17, 2013 06:23 PM (LCRYB) High functioning Asperger's no doubt. Me too. Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 17, 2013 06:38 PM (bb5+k) " Reality cannot really be reduced to a collection of (de facto) derisory labels.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:47 PM (eqgV8)

263

I don't know about the supposed hipster gun culture, but there is this:

; line-height: 15.6pt;"> ; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;" lang="EN">Sixty percent of high school and college students say they plan on owning guns at a later stage in life, an academic study from American University revealed on Monday.

; line-height: 15.6pt;"> ; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;" lang="EN">According to the study ; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;" lang="EN">, about 40 percent of the American students surveyed said they definitely planned to own firearms once they had established their own households. Another 20 percent said they were Â“contemplatingÂ” owning guns.

; line-height: 15.6pt;"> ; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;" lang="EN">Those findings were part of a broader study conducted by American University professor Jennifer L. Lawless and Loyola Marymount professor Richard L. Fox which focused on the political opinions of young Americans.

http://tinyurl.com/aklsgnt

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at January 17, 2013 02:47 PM (QyMDY)

264 Stand right there, no, a bit to the left, that's it, and I'll tell you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 17, 2013 06:42 PM (Gk3SS)

What, on top of this hastily painted target symbol? Done. So what's the magic number?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 17, 2013 02:48 PM (IrbU4)

265 214 MUMR,

some evening when I am not nursing my headache and able to be more glib, you'll have to explain the depths of nuance of a 3 year old with 100 ton strength breaking shit.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2013 02:48 PM (LRFds)

266 "Doesn't seem awkward to me, but I grew up sitting in front of a computer, and I'd expect one to make it comfortable. (You don't find it awkward reading AoS, do you?)"
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No, but this is primarily text, and I get adjust the text size to compensate for my lousy, lousy vision.

I've assumed it would be much more awkward to scroll around a comic page, especially if I have to blow it up in order to read the words.

But maybe I'll have to give it a try.

Posted by: Kensington at January 17, 2013 02:48 PM (H84UO)

267 "246 What's the ladyparts lecture? Sounds kind of fun. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 06:38 PM (eqgV See my post at #42. Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 06:39 PM (kXoT0) " Meh. For me, the Era of Scrolling Up is (mostly) over.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:49 PM (eqgV8)

268 228 JMEL,

he was busy feeding....that is a 5 year process...he is just now gaining back total situational awareness.

If Chris Christie is the new face of the GOP I am not in the GOP.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2013 02:49 PM (LRFds)

269 Nice post, Ace. The Daily Bugle headline at the end couldn't be better.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 17, 2013 02:49 PM (csi6Y)

270 263 MUMR,

dead on

regards,
sven(noted teahadist, wing nut, heartless bastard capitalist, racist, bigot, homophobe, warmongerer, asshole)

Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (LRFds)

271 "251 And yet these 2 hipsters d-bags who are calling Buzzfeed out about misquoting/misrepresenting them, will *still* buy everything they run about Obama and/or the GOP without question. Posted by: angienc at January 17, 2013 06:43 PM (w3JGl) " Hipster d-bags aren't very good at thinking...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (eqgV8)

272
But maybe I'll have to give it a try.

Ooh, a chance to plug my favorite webcomics.

Sluggy Freelance
Girl Genius
Dead Winter
Lackadaisy

Some of the better quality art + writing, IMAO.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (IrbU4)

273 "260 I would wonder which character would I be. Except already am. Go read Dominion Tank Police! Its all Leona's fault anyway. And I am out of here. Go slurp pizza with friends and then go bowling. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2013 06:45 PM (Gyp4x) " Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:53 PM (eqgV8)

274 I used to casually drop about $20-$30 a week on comics until about 5 years ago. Recently I noticed my old comic book store had a lot of pro-Obama crap in the storefront. Sort of related: I gave up on Marvel when they had him team up with Obama and I have up on Erik Larsen and Image when Savage Dragon endorsed Obama on the cover. I gave up on Alex Ross when he painted Obama as superman. The only superhero I really care about died in 1985 when Dr. Manhattan disintegrated him in Antarctica for threatening to tell the truth.

Posted by: Truman North at January 17, 2013 02:54 PM (Di7HK)

275 "266 214 MUMR, some evening when I am not nursing my headache and able to be more glib, you'll have to explain the depths of nuance of a 3 year old with 100 ton strength breaking shit. Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2013 06:48 PM (LRFds) " The Duality of Man's Nature. :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:55 PM (eqgV8)

276 "271 263 MUMR, dead on regards, sven(noted teahadist, wing nut, heartless bastard capitalist, racist, bigot, homophobe, warmongerer, asshole) Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2013 06:51 PM (LRFds) " :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 02:56 PM (eqgV8)

277 Oh, and I have up on Marvel again when they had Captain America and Falcon fight the tea party.

Posted by: Truman North at January 17, 2013 02:56 PM (I2LwF)

278 The only superhero I really care about died in 1985 when Dr. Manhattan disintegrated him in Antarctica for threatening to tell the truth.

Posted by: Truman North at January 17, 2013 06:54 PM (Di7HK)

"No compromise. Never."

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 17, 2013 02:57 PM (IrbU4)

279
Reality cannot really be reduced to a collection of (de facto) derisory labels.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 17, 2013 06:47 PM (eqgV

An ongoing joke I maintain in various discussions is that I don't know any "normal" people. My argument is that everyone is a little bit off. Some, more so than others, but there really isn't a "normal."

You can meet the most sensible and reasonable person, but get them in conversation on some particular subject, and they will turn into a whacko. Twighlight zone Music will start playing in the background.

Everybody has quirks and weird beliefs.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 17, 2013 02:59 PM (bb5+k)

280 276 MUMR,

uh "okay"....

I guess...like I said I am never a fully rigged frigate on mental acumen and today I have maybe 1/3d of my meager sails....

I did play a friend a clip of 2001 and explained that what makes us different is the ability to think 9 steps ahead ideally....

of course we seem to be surrendering that as a species.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2013 02:59 PM (LRFds)

281 The only death in pop culture that ever had any meaning for me--as in, I thought this was really it--was (spoiler alert) Spock in Star Trek II. It seemed as if the folks behind the film really meant it to be permanent, and of course, it turned out it wasn't.

Every death in pop culture since then has been a "just kidding" type event, where it never, ever has any impact, because you know in just a short time it'll be undone.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 17, 2013 03:03 PM (xjpRj)

282 When dealing with a Lib, especially, DiogenesLamp, one must always have these words at the forefront of one's mind: "You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the Twilight Zone! You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into... the Twilight Zone. There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call 'The Twilight Zone'."

Posted by: JDR-Taq at January 17, 2013 03:06 PM (e7KZr)

283 Seriously. Rorschach was the only 100% good guy in the entire history of comics.

Posted by: Truman North at January 17, 2013 03:08 PM (I2LwF)

284 Pretty much everyone else who ever wore tights is a fascist coward at least part of the time.

Posted by: Truman North at January 17, 2013 03:09 PM (I2LwF)

285 284 Truman North,

Yeah it really pissed the mad wiccan off that Rohrschach was the risen ensemble darkhorse that people demanded be brought back.

Essentially the two toons who were the most moral were the two who died and I guess three if you count Nite-Owl I....

Comedian-was immoral in many ways but at the end of the day had a moral event horizon he could not vault over....allowed himself to die rather than murdering Asshole Prime aka veidt

Mr happy mask aka The big R-had many flaws but a very strict moral code ruthlessly applied to people he had judged had crossed over into leaving society's protection. He valued freedom and justice more than "security" based on murder and lies.

Hollis mason was probably the mst idealistic person and I feel moore murdered him simply as a big "fuck you" to the audience.

Kovacs would not be fun to know, he would be a person you would not broadcast you knew, but he would do ALL in his power to aid the cause of right.

I wonder if we need to find some Kovacs in the thrall of a welfare state they hate?

I know I was and I was saved by a decent family who took me under their wing.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2013 03:14 PM (LRFds)

286 Posted by: JDR-Taq at January 17, 2013 07:06 PM (e7KZr)

Oh, I see you've talked with them too.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 17, 2013 03:17 PM (bb5+k)

287 240 It was good cross-promotion, but if you have the Completist bent, like I do, you realize you cannot possibly read them all, and so you're faced with a choice: read only some of them, and not get to be a Completist, or read none of them? I chose "none of them," mostly. Though I did get hooked on Spider-Man for a period later on, as a high-schooler. (And then that just got silly.) It was like that with the X titles when I was collecting them. And they would all be geared towards the next big crossover. Never any stand alone stories. I blame Scott Lobell for that.

Posted by: Dave C at January 17, 2013 06:04 PM (o9VHh)

288 I've met Jim Shooter a couple of times, and I think he's a really cool guy. The comics industry needs more people like him. He was the one who reined in the loopier impulses of brilliant but insane creators like Chris Claremont and John Byrne; that's why they hated him, and orchestrated a campaign to get him fired as Marvel's editor-in-chief.

He's 6'7", with kind of a scary face. Reminds me of Vinnie Jones. It takes someone like that to tell Chris Claremont, "No, Mystique can't be Nightcrawler's father. She can be his mother, though," and make it stick.

Really nice guy, though. I observed a fan at a signing asking Claremont what he really thought of Shooter, and Claremont said, basically, "Oh, he's such an asshole! I can't fucking stand him!" So, when I met Shooter later, I asked him what he thought of Claremont. He said, basically, "Oh, he's awesome! A real class act! It was a real pleasure working with him!"

That was enough to convince me that Shooter was in the right on all their creative clashes.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at January 17, 2013 07:08 PM (xud5f)

289 I think that when Jim Shooter was fired as Marvel's editor-in-chief, that was the moment that really started the decline of the comics industry into the wretched hive of scum and villainy it is today.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at January 17, 2013 07:12 PM (xud5f)

290 Am I the only one that has had the thought that the timing of the school shooting was just too convenient? All his online game playing, and the destruction of his computer right before he began his insane killing? I'm starting to dream up wild conspiracy theories that could come out of a movie plot: Operatives seek out unstable person online, and using the governments secret ultra, ultra mind control video game, the Brainwash ( a mind-programming device) the evil Dr.Moriarty convinces the mentally fragile youth that he has been kidnapped and held prisoner on the planet of New York, land of the flesh-eating Morgoths. Moriarty's program convinces the youth that the evil aliens plan to use his body to take over the Planet Earth, unless.......and afterwards, he fried his computer to hide his connections to the Brainwash. Horrendous script , but You can take it from there.. Ok, yeah, don't need to say it. But more I think about.. just too convenient for so many agendas. You may began snorting at me now.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at January 18, 2013 01:57 AM (g5wi5)

291 I worked at a comic shop in the mid to late 90's and saw the 'Cover Variant Collapse' from the inside. Spot-on comparison Ace!

Posted by: demasque at January 18, 2013 05:28 AM (FwQ/1)

292 I stopped reading DC comics back in the 60s because of the even-then-prevalent "This time Superman/Batman/etc REALLY dies!!!11!" BS. Marvel was much better at everything, anyway (dialogue, story, artwork).

Sure, the switch might have been facilitated by me moving from 11 years old into my early teens, but my first conscious displeasure with DC was all about the "Superman Dies Really No Kidding This Time" krep.

Posted by: jwpaine (@PirateBallerina) at January 18, 2013 07:36 AM (VcDCJ)

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