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November 17, 2013

Day After Questioning Obamacare 'Fix' The DC Health Commissioner Is Fired
— Open Blogger

William P. White, the D.C. Insurance Commissioner, was fired 24 hours after he pointed out what everyone with a brain knew to be true about Obama's healthcare fix.

n a statement issued Thursday, White hinted strongly that he opposed the idea.
Â“The action today undercuts the purpose of the exchanges, including the DistrictÂ’s DC Health Link, by creating exceptions that make it more difficult for them to operate,Â” the statement said.
He also pointed to a statement issued by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners that said the Obama order Â“threatens to undermine the new market, and may lead to higher premiums and market disruptions in 2014 and beyond.Â”
Â“We concur with that assessment,Â” White said Thursday.
WhiteÂ’s statement was removed from the departmentÂ’s Web site sometime before Friday morning. Asked about the removal Friday, spokesman Michael Flagg said the departmentÂ’s statement had changed.

Can you imagine being a state Insurance Commissioner right now? How much pressure is being put on them to enact a fix that they know can't work and may very well be illegal?

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1 Shrugged. Atlas. Manual. Some assembly required.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at November 17, 2013 05:00 AM (E8IHS)

2 HoboJerkey,

That's the first thought that went through my mind as well.

Posted by: Ben at November 17, 2013 05:02 AM (5WPtk)

3 So who fired him?

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 17, 2013 05:03 AM (zDsvJ)

4 ...and the hits just keep on coming. Matter/anti-matter colliding.

Posted by: dogfish at November 17, 2013 05:04 AM (nsOJa)

5 The game Jenga is a good metaphor for OCare. You can maintain the illusion of stability for awhile, but pull out enough pieces, or the right pieces, and the whole edifice crashes down.

Posted by: pep at November 17, 2013 05:04 AM (2dJxD)

6 Pffftt! Like anyone is gonna do something about it. Just another example of what happens when 'folk' don't have any sway over their government. Now kwicherbichin and get back to the Sunday TV shows where we'll tell you what to think.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 17, 2013 05:04 AM (60Vyp)

7 The only people to be fired in this debacle are the people doing the right thing.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2013 05:04 AM (uhAkr)

8 Do not examine the folly, examine what the folly accomplishes. Bambi wants the chaos, he and Holder can make hay with this.

Posted by: mbruce at November 17, 2013 05:05 AM (Hx3jP)

9 Good thing Bush didn't fire him, because we know that would be wrong.

Posted by: AE at November 17, 2013 05:06 AM (HYceo)

10 Ok I see. The mayor.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 17, 2013 05:06 AM (zDsvJ)

11 You are right, Bevel.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 17, 2013 05:07 AM (zDsvJ)

12 3 So who fired him? Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 17, 2013 09:03 AM (zDsvJ) The mayor....well, technically, one of his deputies but...the mayor.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 17, 2013 05:07 AM (bCEmE)

13 To Village Idiot: I wasn't busting on you for your Vasa . I was busting on the NRO guy mentioned in last night's open thread who yesterday wrote it up, 24 hours after I posted it here. That's what pisses me off. At least give Ace the credit. I'm just an anonymous commenter.

Posted by: RS at November 17, 2013 05:09 AM (YAGV/)

14 Reading Mr White's bio, I'm sure he'll find another job. Dude looks shatp.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 17, 2013 05:10 AM (zDsvJ)

15 "How much pressure is being put on them to enact a fix that they know can't work and may very well be illegal?"

"may very well be illegal? May? May?

Clearly illegal.

Clearly unconstitutional.

Probably impeachable.

Posted by: Ronsonic at November 17, 2013 05:10 AM (1qQf+)

16 Maybe laissez-faire approach isn't such a bad approach after all.

Posted by: William P. White at November 17, 2013 05:10 AM (nsOJa)

17 I've heard various legal theories on why Our King's unilateral edict of non-enforcement of the individual mandate gives rise to illegality. Let's just start with, as a matter of law, an illegal contract is unenforceable as between the parties and as to every other interest concerned. It all flows from there.

Posted by: direwolf at November 17, 2013 05:11 AM (wlroQ)

18 Scene : The Titanic First Officer : "Sir! We've struck an iceberg!" Captain : "You're fired...., mutinous dog!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 17, 2013 05:11 AM (aDwsi)

19 D.C. is uniquely under the thumb of the Federal Govt. Be interesting to see if Federal intimidation over this works in any of the states.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 17, 2013 05:12 AM (rNCEP)

20 Just because a cat has kittens in the oven, don't make'm biscuits.

Posted by: William P. White, mark my words at November 17, 2013 05:12 AM (nsOJa)

21 ALL the state commissioners need to get together and stand up to this bullshit. Obama and his minions count on being able to divide and conquer. They disintegrate in the face of organized opposition.

Posted by: NavyMustang at November 17, 2013 05:13 AM (iQCZD)

22 If you want your commissioner, you can't keep your commissioner, Period.

Posted by: some d.c. deputy guy at November 17, 2013 05:13 AM (/cUUk)

23 1 Shrugged. Atlas. Manual. Some assembly required. Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter

I lean more to

Tar
Feathers
Rails

or
Tumbrels
Guillotines
Mobs of outraged, offal-throwing peasants

requiring some ass'y with DC & all state capitols....

Posted by: backhoe at November 17, 2013 05:13 AM (ULH4o)

24 William is a black dude too. Snitches get stitches and all that. He is well out of it. I hope he sues the crap out of them.

Posted by: Lester at November 17, 2013 05:13 AM (qTsuK)

25 What direwolf said.

If the President has the authority to unilaterally overturn a thousand years of contract law, then the Republic is dead.

Posted by: brian at November 17, 2013 05:14 AM (y05cf)

26 Posted by: direwolf

I didn't study contract law, wingnut.

Posted by: Barky at November 17, 2013 05:14 AM (nsOJa)

27 "How much pressure is being put on them to enact a fix that they know can't work and may very well be illegal?"

That's a nice commissioner's job ya got there. Be a shame if somethin' happened to it.....

Posted by: chiefjaybob at November 17, 2013 05:14 AM (cgH9o)

28 The only consolation I can take here, is that every honest man who's fired and replaced with a yes-man hack only hastens the inevitable implosion. "Let it burn" is looking more and more like "let water stay wet".

Posted by: Secundus at November 17, 2013 05:15 AM (40gcd)

29 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: chiefjaybob at November 17, 2013 05:15 AM (cgH9o)

30 At least he wasn't shot in the back of the head and rolled into a ditch filled with hundreds of corpses. Really, he should be thankful.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 17, 2013 05:16 AM (80R0X)

31 RS
No problem.
I tend to pull the trigger on myself far faster than anyone from the Horde does.

(Boy...talk about metaphor abuse)

But you are correct that the work should be attributed.

And with that,my laptop has developed the habit of failing to insert spaces into the text at random times when I hit the spacebar.

May have something to do with eating pretzel sticks while blogging.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 17, 2013 05:16 AM (NDA7a)

32
Let it burn.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: chiefjaybob at November 17, 2013 05:16 AM (cgH9o)

33 Gee, it's almost as if we're living in a banana republic.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 17, 2013 05:16 AM (JivuR)

34 At least he ~~wasn't~~ hasn't yet been shot in the back of the head and rolled into a ditch filled with hundreds of corpses. Really, he should be thankful. Posted by: Burnt --------------------- FIFY

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 17, 2013 05:17 AM (aDwsi)

I just completed my morning constitutional.

*flush*

Posted by: Hussein Soetoro, Constitutional Scholar at November 17, 2013 05:17 AM (rNCEP)

36 It's not a HOW-TO MANUAL!

Posted by: Ayn Rand at November 17, 2013 05:18 AM (MMC8r)

37 Oh, by the way: Legal? These people use the rest of humanity like Kleenex. They knowingly trafficked weapons the a drug cartel and left their own people twisting in the wind in Libya. LEGAL????

Posted by: Secundus at November 17, 2013 05:20 AM (40gcd)

38 So let me guess here, the judges will follow the law and not the party. Somehow I think we know the answer. The good news is 30 states are controlled by Pubbie Govs and we have already seen WA say no to the fix. So there is hope.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at November 17, 2013 05:20 AM (m4s5N)

39 Who will rid us of this tyranny?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 17, 2013 05:20 AM (XB5Ak)

40 If the President has the authority to unilaterally overturn a thousand years of contract law, then the Republic is dead. The the Republic died about four years ago- One of Emperor Subeffective's first acts was to void the shares of tens of thousands of share holders in the auto companies. A group containing a lot of retired Americans. The clothes have no emperor.* *wish I could remember who said that to give credit.

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 17, 2013 05:20 AM (CRY7r)

41 Avenge us!

Posted by: GE Bondholders at November 17, 2013 05:21 AM (MMC8r)

42 36 It's not a HOW-TO MANUAL!

Posted by: Ayn Rand at November 17, 2013 09:18 AM (MMC8r)

Hey, you try to tell them, but they dont listen.

Posted by: G.Orwell at November 17, 2013 05:22 AM (AWmfW)

43 DC is the worst because:

1) it is donkey party dominated

2) it is in the fish bowl not even in another nearby bowl

You have to figure this is similar to Ogabe purging the military, you a civil servant?

Obama has a moment of ethical clarity in store for you only question is how far down the list your name is.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2013 05:23 AM (9jfyN)

44 I got nothin'.

Posted by: Joey Biden's Empty Pastepot at November 17, 2013 05:24 AM (Eibjh)

45 There's some hardcore Hope 'N Change for ya.

Posted by: ontherocks at November 17, 2013 05:26 AM (k0ktS)

46 I'd like to say that "William P. White" isn't, but from his picture it's hard to tell. Of course, it's hard to tell with Mayor Gray too, but we're told he's African-American, so there you go. So there's racism here, somewhere, I'm sure.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 17, 2013 05:26 AM (xSegX)

47 To be blunt, it won't matter how illegal it is or how illegal it's going to get. It's kind of like how the best burglars are the ones who steal right in front of you; they're so audacious that you can't believe that they're actually doing something wrong.

Sadly, the siren song of "Other people will pay for my health care" is hard to drown out.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 17, 2013 05:26 AM (ODsL5)

48 46 AmishDude at November 17, 2013 09:26 AM (xSegX)

The racism *this* week is in the noticing he was fired at all.

//Rev Al $lim $hady $harpton ACA and Racism Navigator

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2013 05:28 AM (9jfyN)

49 Insurance regulation at the state level is one huge shakedown, and the costs of it are, of course, passed on to those buying insurance. State insurance commissioners exist to keep the screws turned so the baksheesh flows from insurance industry lobbyists into the pockets of state politicians. No sympathy here for any "pressure" they are feeling. They dealt themselves in on the ground floor...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 17, 2013 05:28 AM (GJUgF)

50 No one in the MFM mentions that an insurance policy is a contract. Most people don't know and don't care. It's easier that way.

Posted by: eman at November 17, 2013 05:29 AM (AO9UG)

51 Lost his job....prolly get audited, too.

Posted by: BignJames at November 17, 2013 05:31 AM (HtUkt)

52 State insurance commissioners exist to keep the screws turned so the baksheesh flows from insurance industry lobbyists into the pockets of state politicians. Hence 'no purchases across state lines.' The Graft must flow.

Posted by: --- at November 17, 2013 05:32 AM (MMC8r)

53 Don't worry. That other guy over there will pay for me. Yeah, that guy, you know, who worked hard and followed the rules and built his life and career with sweat and sacrifice. Yeah, that guy.....the bastard. So, yeah, go back to your 40's and smoke a bowl of chronic. I got this covered.

Posted by: Your Free Health Care at November 17, 2013 05:32 AM (CRY7r)

54 William P. White, the D.C. Insurance Commissioner, was fired 24 hours after he pointed out what everyone with a brain knew to be true about Obama's healthcare fix. There should be camps for people like that.

Posted by: MSNBC at November 17, 2013 05:33 AM (MMC8r)

55 Health Care Can't Wait!

Posted by: gp at November 17, 2013 05:33 AM (+Jpqc)

56 51 Lost his job....prolly get audited, too.

Posted by: BignJames at November 17, 2013 09:31 AM (HtUkt)

We'll try to prosecute White for racism too.

Posted by: Eric "Dick" Holder at November 17, 2013 05:34 AM (AWmfW)

57 Somebody should crap in White's mouth.

Posted by: MSNBC at November 17, 2013 05:34 AM (CRY7r)

58 If I was a doctor, I'd be looking at a small independent office with minimal staff. Cash only.

Posted by: Secundus at November 17, 2013 05:35 AM (40gcd)

59 Now I'm gonna go back and review Orson Scott Card's hypothetical scenario.

Posted by: gewa76 at November 17, 2013 05:35 AM (k8m83)

60 We'll try to prosecute White for racism too. Posted by: Eric "Dick" Holder at November 17, 2013 09:34 AM (AWmfW) def a hate crime

Posted by: BignJames at November 17, 2013 05:35 AM (HtUkt)

61 And the Black Queen Legitimizes the serfs complaints , but decapitates her White court jester.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 17, 2013 05:36 AM (j6DTo)

62 I once attended a bid specs meeting for a state employees group with the man who became our next state ins commissioner presiding. His specs made it impossible to rate the group and violated basic underwriting principals to manage risk. Basically, he wanted carriers to take an unknown loss. Knowing this not to be desirable to my company, I walked out. I wish walking out were an option now.

Posted by: Justamom at November 17, 2013 05:37 AM (Sptt8)

63 They would be fixing the lie that Bush has perpetrated for the last 15 years.

Posted by: Chrissy Liebowitz at November 17, 2013 05:38 AM (EUKai)

All references to the former person have been scrubbed from the official record.

It appears the Ministry of Truth is operating as intended.

All is well.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 17, 2013 05:39 AM (0HooB)

65 62 Justamom at November 17, 2013 09:37 AM (Sptt

We're hiring...

//Canada

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2013 05:40 AM (9jfyN)

66 Yet again we see white as the source of our problems.

Posted by: Eric "Dick" Holder at November 17, 2013 05:42 AM (AWmfW)

67 .
The guy's name is "White" which makes him a Racist . . .
.
Should have been fired long ago . .
.

Posted by: FireNWater at November 17, 2013 05:46 AM (PYabA)

68 Aren't many/most State Insurance Commissioners elected posts? As such, firing isn't their worry. They answer to the people (theoretically) and the insurance companies (practically), NEITHER of who is real eager for this "fix"....

Posted by: Doug Winship at November 17, 2013 05:47 AM (S6I/9)

69 58 If I was a doctor, I'd be looking at a small independent office with minimal staff. Cash only.

Posted by: Secundus at November 17, 2013 09:35 AM (40gcd)

***

This is called a concierge practice (most concierge practices charge an annual fee of some sort with a guarantee of a baseline amount of access). They have popped up in some locales, with mixed success. The biggest obstacles are 1) building a large enough clientele to become profitable and 2) being able to admit patients to a hospital (hospitals grant admitting privileges based on certain criteria). Ultimately, as long as we have a third-party payer system cash-based practices will remain a fringe element.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 17, 2013 05:47 AM (N/Sup)

70 How do you file a claim based on an illegal policy? How is the refusal to honor such a claim disputed in a court of law?

Posted by: eman at November 17, 2013 05:49 AM (AO9UG)

71 The insurance commissioner is appointed by the governor in Missouri.

Posted by: Justamom at November 17, 2013 05:51 AM (Sptt8)

Gun thread up.

(and don't say I didn't come back for y'all).

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 17, 2013 05:52 AM (N/Sup)

73 Obamacare is functioning exactly as designed.

...and again in case you didn't catch that;

Obamacare is functioning exactly as designed.

...and once more for the terminally obtuse;

Obamacare is functioning exactly as designed.

Posted by: Sir Francis Puffbladder at November 17, 2013 05:52 AM (XIrbA)

74 Laws are for little people, if they are to their detriment.

Posted by: Justamom at November 17, 2013 05:52 AM (Sptt8)

75
Two people have been fired over the Obamacare cluster-fuck.
Both were fired for warning people that trouble was coming.

I will say this: these firings give credence to Obama's claim not to have known that things were going pear-shaped. After all, if telling the truth is a firing offense, who will speak it?

Of course, this speaks volumes about Obama as an executive and a leader. But we knew that already.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 17, 2013 05:54 AM (a5bF3)

76 58
I think I remember something a year or two back from one of the talk shows about a Dr. in NY trying to start up a chain of health clinics for something like $75 flat rate a visit, but got buried by regulations.

Posted by: AE at November 17, 2013 05:54 AM (HYceo)

77 Given this administration, I'm starting to think the Osama Raid was just a bungled attempt to sign him up for ObamCare.

Posted by: MSNBC at November 17, 2013 05:54 AM (MMC8r)

78 "How much pressure is being put on them to enact a fix that they know can't work and may very well be illegal?"

A lot of pressure. Yesterday I asked how could an insurance commissioner approve a contract that is illegal (the president's promise is one not to prosecute - the older plans still are not ACA compliant). Relying on a promise like that is pretty darn foolish, even if Obama's promises didn't come with expiration dates because the state AG may very well prosecute or find some sort of malfeasance or misfeasance in office for doing so. It is an absolute charlie foxtrot - if they do this they put themselves in legal jeopardy, and if they don't they could be fired. Me, I think I would be updating the resume rather than follow such an instruction.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Jeers and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 17, 2013 05:55 AM (gmoEG)

79 shit, /sock

Posted by: --- at November 17, 2013 05:55 AM (MMC8r)

80 So no more 1st Amendment rights, huh. Tyranny.
What happened to America?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 17, 2013 05:57 AM (JRmiD)

81 As the morning thread heads for its burial... a radically-inclined webwork: Fine Print Before you sign on the dotted line, make sure you've checked all the details. Mr. President delivers the big lie. Mr. Carney delivers the rapid legalese. 21-sec vid. It might take you longer to load the page and hit play then it will to watch it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - polytickle parodies at November 17, 2013 06:03 AM (85x54)

82 oops. sigh

Posted by: mindful webworker - I'm so dumb at November 17, 2013 06:07 AM (85x54)

83 San Fran Nan bug eyed on Meet The Press And lying her ass off

Posted by: Thunderb at November 17, 2013 06:11 AM (zOTsN)

84 Firings will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 17, 2013 06:11 AM (Y92Nd)

85 Next step, White is disappeared from official photos and the website. He becomes an un-person for straying from the party line that ObamaCare is the bestest thing since, well, forever!

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2013 06:11 AM (BAS5M)

86 She can't even respond to David Gregory not that she isn't blathering She gonna lose her job She brings up the shut down

Posted by: Thunderb at November 17, 2013 06:13 AM (zOTsN)

87 Now Kelly Ayotte . Pass

Posted by: Thunderb at November 17, 2013 06:14 AM (zOTsN)

88 So, for one of the biggest disasters in American domestic policy history we have had 2 firings and one resignation. 1) The navigator who told Hannity people didn't like the program. 2) The DC health insurance commissioner who said the fix was unworkable 3) The CIO that the evidence suggests refused to verify that the site was secure.

Posted by: Boone at November 17, 2013 06:15 AM (tIyK2)

89 Gregory now mad republicans aren't helping "fix"it

Posted by: Thunderb at November 17, 2013 06:16 AM (zOTsN)

90 Wow, every morning I wake up, and there is a new outrage. I wonder what's going to happen in my state, WA (which has been held up by His Majesty and other Dimbulbocrats as the paragon of Obamacare in action). The day after the Obamacare fix was announced by our Lord and Enslaver, our Insurance Commissioner, Mike Kriedler (a Democrat in an elected position) announced that WA will not comply with Obama's fix. Kriedler was a staunch supporter of ACA, so I guess only now can he be called an evil racist. He is also white, so there is that as well.

Posted by: runningrn at November 17, 2013 06:16 AM (PLOz8)

Remember this from January 20, 2009?:

"When White does what's right . . ."

heheheheh. He did and look what it got hom for his troubles.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2013 06:17 AM (BAS5M)

92 Ezra Klein, lisping madly, has just discovered only sick and old people are signing up, and the young aren't. But he waives his hand and says the website will be fixed quickly and young people will sign up. Because

Posted by: Thunderb at November 17, 2013 06:22 AM (zOTsN)

93 Truth to Power, feel it

Posted by: Jean at November 17, 2013 06:26 AM (CMlD4)

94 *How many people has Obama fired over the disastrous Obamacare website roll-out?

*How many people were fired over the IRS harassment scandal?
(Voluntary resignations don't count, especially if it's one month prior to your announced retirement)

*How many were fired after Benghazi?
(Other than the lower-level State employees were were told had been fired that had actually just been moved around with a little time off between posts).

*How many were fired over Fast and Furious?
(Besides the whistle-blowers.)

Posted by: Lizzy at November 17, 2013 06:26 AM (JRmiD)

95 ObamaCare = The Great Pumpkin

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2013 06:26 AM (BAS5M)

96 #89 Monkey boy needs a beating. Badly. Liz Cheney slicing like a hammer on FNS.

Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at November 17, 2013 06:30 AM (rMxV1)

97 Maybe I should try to float my idea to Beck. Producers sign a pledge that they will go Galt for one week unless the ACA is repealed by date X. I don't know if enough folks would give up that week of income to get the politicians attention, but maybe if they also refused to buy anything that week it would be a good multiplier. The hope would be that congress and TFG would blink, but they have to have real fear of losing a significant chunk of the vig for a week or they'll blow it off just like they did the millions of tea party folk marching to say "don't pass this economy killing bill"

Posted by: PaleRider at November 17, 2013 06:32 AM (vL0Nv)

98 Posted by: runningrn at November 17, 2013 10:16 AM (PLOz

It might be that he got a legal opinion from the state AG telling him that he would be in legal jeopardy if he did that.* It would be interesting to find out because that changes the dynamics of the whole discussion.

*State agencies tend to do this before they act - it saves embarrassment later.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Jeers and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 17, 2013 06:47 AM (gmoEG)

99 Posted by: PaleRider at November 17, 2013 10:32 AM (vL0Nv)

That sounds like the "Not One Damn Dime Day" (general strike) that comes and goes at DU. It sounds swell, but....

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Jeers and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 17, 2013 06:49 AM (gmoEG)

100 #88 Don't forget about the slimy navigators outed by O'Keefe videos. So add a couple more to the far-too short tally.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at November 17, 2013 07:01 AM (tTMRX)

101 Remember when the MFM was all aflame about how they had honed in like a laser on the glaring flaw that was the homogeneity of the Bush admin, and where were all the conflicting ideas & viewpoints & patriotic opposition & such in the Oval Office? Good times, good times.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at November 17, 2013 07:04 AM (tTMRX)

102 Mikey, yes I know, the only way it would have any chance is if a big name like Beck picked it up, there was one clear goal defined, and it was done as a pledge so the folks thinking "well I'm not going to sacrifice alone" would see other folks signing up. Of course knowing TFG will throw the IRS, EPA, OSHA and other stuff at them only the most brave or desperate would sign before they felt there was safety in the numbers.

So the country will continue to slide towards becoming Venezuela with folks clinging to their hopes that surely *this latest outrage* will mean the conservatives pick up power in the next election and will be able to undo much of the harm.

After 08 and 12 I no longer believe that common sense can overcome the MBM, I'm ashamed that they had conned me into wanting McCain in the 08 primaries before I realized how corrupt they are (I hadn't changed from independent in time to caucus and all the good guys had dropped out before my state even held a caucus anyway --unfortunately it seems that only a small minority of LIVS were jolted out of their stupor)

Posted by: PaleRider at November 17, 2013 07:11 AM (m+nIW)

103 We finally found out what it takes for a Democrat to lose his job.

Posted by: PJ at November 17, 2013 07:23 AM (ZWaLo)

104 I kind of think this is racist, don't you?

Posted by: Oprah at November 17, 2013 07:23 AM (ZWaLo)

105 Yeah a Democrat will lose his job whenever (or if ever) he points out that the Emperor not only has no clothes, but that the Emperor is standing buck ass naked in a field of lies. That will cost a Democrat his job. Otherwise, he or she is virtually unfireable.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 17, 2013 07:40 AM (dtuXM)

106 Speaking truth to power in the Age of Obama. This administration is run more like a criminal conspiracy than a government.

Posted by: Socrateae at November 17, 2013 08:13 AM (6uy7v)

107 In the obama regime lying about Bengasi, Fast and Furious, IRS intimidation, NSA wire tapping, obama care, global warming, are all promotable offences. Telling the emperor he is naked, not so much.

Posted by: Bufalobob at November 17, 2013 09:41 AM (r8ENS)

108 I think thin skinned Obama can't take the heat. He is a narcissist. I would expect him down in the bunker very soon, killing family and Bo and then doing a BJ on a Luger!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at November 18, 2013 06:31 AM (49rmO)

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