January 19, 2013
— Open Blogger Gee, what a surprise! Organic foods are essentially identical to conventional foods, except of course for the massive price tag. So all of the billions of gallons of gasoline pissed away driving to out-of-the-way hippie hang-outs just to buy that organic kale and celeriac were wasted. Women and children hardest hit, of course.
The health claims made by the willing fools are legion. Corporate farming is responsible for a litany of first-world diseases (ignoring the thing that they are most responsible for....old age!), and organic farmers were going to save us from their depradations.
So who or what are they going to blame their imagined health problems on now?
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Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at January 19, 2013 05:57 AM (RLTt1)
Posted by: cajun carrot at January 19, 2013 05:59 AM (/pQC5)
Posted by: lincolntf at January 19, 2013 05:59 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 06:00 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: cajun carrot at January 19, 2013 06:01 AM (/pQC5)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2013 06:02 AM (b5h5w)
Posted by: JDTAY at January 19, 2013 06:02 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: lincolntf at January 19, 2013 06:03 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Bruce at January 19, 2013 06:04 AM (Rdesr)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2013 06:05 AM (b5h5w)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 19, 2013 06:05 AM (l86i3)
I try to eat natural. I read an article by an organic farmer, who went into it after his neighbor had a pesticide hauler break open all over him, and it paralyzed the guy.
We eat stuff grown in the in-laws' garden and farmer's markets. I don't think it makes me gullible to try to avoid chemicals.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 19, 2013 06:05 AM (MPjT8)
Posted by: beach snowsmothered at January 19, 2013 06:06 AM (LpQbZ)
Excuse me now while iron my hemp shirt.
That scratchy feeling is the knowledge that I am saving the planet.
Posted by: NeoKong at January 19, 2013 06:06 AM (JWLwG)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:07 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at January 19, 2013 06:07 AM (RLTt1)
Yeh, carrot, I usually try to avoid it.
I'm annoyed that to get sausage I have to choose between organic and "stuffed with HFCS" unless I can find that one brand that is "natural" but not "organic".
And this is why I just bought a big chicken and a big pork butt this week and am having leftovers for breakfast.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2013 06:07 AM (SUKHu)
In fact, everything on this planet is organic. The only things I wouldn't call organic would be the meteorites that have fallen here from space.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:07 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: JDTAY at January 19, 2013 06:07 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: American Dawg at January 19, 2013 06:08 AM (trA4n)
Posted by: beach snowsmothered at January 19, 2013 06:08 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 19, 2013 06:09 AM (/8J5q)
>>Some ppl are so flaky about that stuff that our baggers at the store have to put the two types of produce in separate bags.
And then they don't wash the bags...
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2013 06:09 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:09 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: CA Token at January 19, 2013 06:10 AM (TZ/Pd)
Posted by: USS Diversity
The problem with "organic" is the definition. The rules are under constant change by the large sellers. We think of organic as grandma tending the garden. Some large groups want it labeled as such if they put organic fertilizer on it, but still use pesticides.
Like Slick Willy and he meaning of Is.
Posted by: Bruce at January 19, 2013 06:10 AM (Rdesr)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at January 19, 2013 06:11 AM (RLTt1)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 19, 2013 06:11 AM (MPjT8)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 19, 2013 06:11 AM (/8J5q)
It is.
A spent fuel rod is no different than what you can dig up out of the ground after radioactive ore degrades over time.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:12 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: Truman North at January 19, 2013 06:12 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: beach snowsmothered at January 19, 2013 06:13 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:13 AM (5H6zj)
Dumb twits.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 06:14 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: eman at January 19, 2013 06:14 AM (tBnjP)
Posted by: FURPC at January 19, 2013 06:14 AM (0ImZM)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at January 19, 2013 06:14 AM (RLTt1)
I like going to the local farmer's market because I can get stuff there that I can't get anywhere else. Though, I must say, seeing the "Eat Local!" sign up right next to the booth for the guy selling ostrich always makes me laugh and laugh. Ahhhh, yes. If only we could return to yesteryear when the great herds of ostrich roamed the North Carolina plains.
Annnnd back to whining about not having a Wegman's. Reason 12,398,332 I miss Wegman's, I could actually buy ostrich and buffalo there. No big deal, no muss, no fuss, just right there next to the ground chuck. Sniffle.
Though I will say I was taken aback when I saw scrapple at my local Harris Teeter the other day. I had no idea that anyone outside the greater Philly area even knew what that was.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 19, 2013 06:15 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:15 AM (5H6zj)
Other than the purity and concentration, it's no different than the ore found in the earth.
Ok, how about this?
Radon gas coming out of your cellar is organic.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:15 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: Truman North at January 19, 2013 06:15 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: lincolntf at January 19, 2013 06:16 AM (ZshNr)
Havent you ppl taken organic chemistry?
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 10:13 AM (5H6zj)
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No Sheldon
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 19, 2013 06:16 AM (MPjT8)
Ok, I couldn't tell if you were being facetious or not. Yeah, the metallic ore is inorganic, but I was saying for the context of this post, the waste itself could be considered "organic".
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:16 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: Guinness at January 19, 2013 06:17 AM (mlSEY)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:17 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Truman North at January 19, 2013 06:17 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 06:17 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: zimriel at January 19, 2013 06:18 AM (w63Cp)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:18 AM (5H6zj)
That's because o-chem is so easy.
At least until your first D- on a yield experiment.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 19, 2013 06:18 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Truman North at January 19, 2013 06:18 AM (I2LwF)
However, even during tomato season, when you go to a local restaurant and get a salad or burger or whatever else. You still get them GD pink rock hard no flavor tomatoes. AAAAAARRRGGGHHHHH
Posted by: Bruce at January 19, 2013 06:18 AM (Rdesr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 06:18 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: FURPC at January 19, 2013 10:14 AM (0ImZM)
Well, watching two stoned fuck is a treat. I read about it, yeah that's it.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 06:19 AM (wR+pz)
Are you a biologist?
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:19 AM (doBIb)
Naturally occurring is not the same thing as organic. To be organic, it must be carbon based. Radon is an inorganic noble gas. That's what the high school chemistry I can remember tells me.
Posted by: no good deed at January 19, 2013 06:20 AM (mjR67)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:20 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: eman at January 19, 2013 06:20 AM (tBnjP)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 06:21 AM (JDIKC)
I've never had emu. Protip I got from a friend who is a vet - if you want to kill someone and get away with it, send them an emu in a box. They open the box, the emu will freak out and attack them and apparently they are vicious nasty creatures that would love to claw you to death. Person dies, emus runs off and wow how did that happen.
Emu control now!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 19, 2013 06:21 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Jean at January 19, 2013 06:21 AM (LBUCy)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 06:21 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: Truman North at January 19, 2013 06:22 AM (I2LwF)
I swear to god, I was in Vail last week an a tv ad came on for "organic water".
You can not make this shit up. The stupid is strong.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 06:23 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Clemenza at January 19, 2013 06:23 AM (x59Gv)
They come out of the Playdoh Fun Factory.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:23 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2013 06:23 AM (M0O7A)
Plus, I say, "I'm a Christian, and this death shit isn't supposed to bother true Christians. You'll die regardless, when it's your time, so enjoy life."
My wife doesn't like when I say either of those.
I just don't get some things:
People will cry over things like Newtown or some abused animal commercial--people and animals they've never met--while they shutter their own mother or father away in a nursing home.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 19, 2013 06:23 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: American Dawg at January 19, 2013 10:21 AM (trA4n)
Milk! Flour! Eggs! It's healthy!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 19, 2013 06:23 AM (Gk3SS)
I made it through four years of high school and many years of college without ever taking biology. I literally do not know how babies come out of the woman's butt Posted by: Truman North
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Babies are also Organic, they come from the Cabbage Patch...
Posted by: American Dawg at January 19, 2013 06:24 AM (trA4n)
>>I had no idea that anyone outside the greater Philly area even knew what that was.
I see it every once in a while.
Hmm, if I could add some cajun seasoning to it, I could probably sell lots of it around here...
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2013 06:24 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Joey Biden at January 19, 2013 06:25 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 10:21 AM (QLuGB)
Oh, trust me, the compound may well have an emu range. But I've said too much . . . .
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 19, 2013 06:26 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 06:26 AM (JDIKC)
Junk Science also points out that organic growers (although it might have been specific to the UK) have gotten some chemicals to be declared 'natural' so they do actually use them. The phrase "copper sulphates" seems to ring a bell about it but I can't swear to it.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 19, 2013 06:27 AM (ORGYc)
I could dunk a bucket in a stream and come up with a bucket of organic water
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 19, 2013 06:27 AM (8sCoq)
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Gun Powder and Lead , thats Organic too...
Posted by: American Dawg at January 19, 2013 06:27 AM (trA4n)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:27 AM (5H6zj)
Powerball tonight is $100 million.
Buy a lot of range to help 'save' the emus.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 06:28 AM (QLuGB)
Seems like you could charge extra for something that fancy and natural. Posted by: Empire of Jeff
We do. It's called Corona. Add a lime (organic) please, to make it palatable.
Posted by: Bruce at January 19, 2013 06:28 AM (Rdesr)
People will cry over things like Newtown or some abused animal commercial--people and animals they've never met--while they shutter their own mother or father away in a nursing home.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 19, 2013 10:23 AM
People are against social injustice. They are for personal convenience.
Posted by: huerfano at January 19, 2013 06:28 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: FURPC at January 19, 2013 06:28 AM (0ImZM)
Posted by: The MFM at January 19, 2013 06:28 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 06:29 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 06:29 AM (JDIKC)
the cost for the democrats "save the childrens' prederence crusade probably is in the billions.......
now as a free market guy they are free to spend as they will but if the retarded liberals get to have nanny Bloomberg controlling softdrinks and pills then perhaps in the spirit of accepting that we as America have passed an event horizon maybe we should whip the people who are too poor to blow the extra money into taxing organic foods as a luxury?
Fire for fire, pound for pound.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 06:29 AM (LRFds)
I see you've been spending some time at "Ye Olde Beer Shoppe".
"I believe there will be no charge for this two-four of Elsinore..."
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:31 AM (doBIb)
I think there is some cowboy advice about never looking upstream after drinking from the creek.
Posted by: no good deed at January 19, 2013 06:31 AM (mjR67)
Posted by: BignJames at January 19, 2013 06:31 AM (Sg0G/)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:32 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 06:32 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: Organic Soylent Green at January 19, 2013 06:32 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 06:33 AM (JDIKC)
Oh, and that evil corn syrup. Never put that shit in your mouth.
Which means, don't buy any thing at a grocery store and don't shave your legs or pits, it clogs up your pores or something.
Posted by: Mary Congestien from somewhere up in Vt. at January 19, 2013 06:33 AM (wR+pz)
We have buffalo in our local store but not ostrich which is a shame b/c youre right, its good. Emu is even better imho.
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 10:17 AM (5H6zj)
Spotted owl is pretty good.
Posted by: BignJames at January 19, 2013 10:31 AM (Sg0G/)
You know what else is good?
Baby lambs.
http://tinyurl.com/2725h9v
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:33 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: BignJames at January 19, 2013 06:33 AM (Sg0G/)
Hmmm,
How stupid are the liberals and hipsters who buy into this shit?
OK, fine, we need science to tell us about the nutritional value of the individual food.
EXCEPT I've been pointing out to people since I was highschool that modern farming has allowed us to grow so much more food, that this has to outweigh any percieved nutritional deficiency. (To put it differently, we're not exactly dying of scruvy over here. And we're better fed in general.)
People who want to undo that simply hate the poor. I really do think we'll be able to make a remarkably large dent in food shortages world wide in my lifetime, if people would just let us use all the tools in our bag.
Posted by: tsrblke at January 19, 2013 06:33 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: no good deed at January 19, 2013 06:34 AM (mjR67)
Jeff, does your mission statement include a section on the treatment of and potty options for your marshmellow pickers?
(or should that be "peep pickers"?)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2013 06:34 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: blindside at January 19, 2013 06:34 AM (ajjwb)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:34 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 10:32 AM (QLuGB)
Speaking of Cholera, a third world disease, Cuba announced an outbreak in Havana.
Yeah, they are really doing well down there.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 06:35 AM (wR+pz)
My wife's on the "no grain" diet. It looks like it sucks.
Molecular biologist here, btw.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:36 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: RWC at January 19, 2013 06:37 AM (sqp6o)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:37 AM (5H6zj)
Don't use Nutra Sweet. It will cause cancer and you will die. Real unbleached sugar is want you want. Being fat is healthy!
The nutrasweet cancer claims were overblown.
Turns out the way rats process the stuff is entirely different than how humans process it. Rats generate crystals that puncture their bladders (which lead directly to cancer because of the constant need for bladder repair eventually results in a miscopied cell.)
Humans don't do that. Later experiements in mice showed no likelyhood of cancer.
It's the "Andrew Wakefiled" of food science. Horribly horribly flawed study, constantly cited.
Posted by: tsrblke at January 19, 2013 06:37 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Invictus at January 19, 2013 06:37 AM (OQpzc)
Nearly had an orgasm from the white bread.
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 10:34 AM (5H6zj)
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Now I'm afraid of YOUR food.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 19, 2013 06:37 AM (MPjT8)
They want the poor to die at worst, or live in nice little caves at best.
I was once poor and take great offense at efforts made to prevent the poor from growing out of poverty into a better lifestyle.
The GOP has a message to sway some of the poor if we are willing to use it.
Our way gets you a better quality of life and we will help you try to climb out and chase YOUR dreams not tell you what YOUR dreams are and then have you go into debt or take from another to chase paying the campus faculty to have TAs teach you half assed pap.
The GOP needs to launch a VoTech revolution.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 06:39 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 06:39 AM (QLuGB)
Facts? Never heard of them. My yoga instructor told me that all those sweeteners make you die of constipation, cancer or terminal ugly.
If you can't believe your yoga instructor, you simply have no faith in anything.
Posted by: Mary Congestien from somewhere up in Vt. at January 19, 2013 06:40 AM (wR+pz)
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Now I'm afraid of YOUR food.
Funny, I want the recipe.
Posted by: no good deed at January 19, 2013 06:40 AM (mjR67)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2013 06:40 AM (G9qZk)
Anyhow, I asked them if they ever studied Norman Borlaug. They looked at me as if I asked them something in Farsi.
*sigh*
All that liberal bullshit and they can't study the real scientists who actually made this world better.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:41 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:41 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 19, 2013 06:41 AM (7h5MH)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 06:41 AM (JDIKC)
White bread was once a treat, as was cow's milk.....
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 06:41 AM (LRFds)
The GOP needs to launch a VoTech revolution.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 10:39 AM (LRFds)
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HELL yeah. I've been saying for years this bullshit about "you need to go to college to be successful" is a swindle. The world needs welders not more cubicle mice. And there's money in the trades.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 19, 2013 06:42 AM (MPjT8)
I made hamburger buns from scratch for a BBQ at a friend's house once.
You know how there's sometimes a quiet moment in a big group of people?
That's when his brother yelled out "Hey, you gotta try AJ's buns!"
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2013 06:42 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Travis at January 19, 2013 06:42 AM (9WkMB)
Posted by: RWC at January 19, 2013 06:42 AM (sqp6o)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 06:43 AM (QLuGB)
>>It's not a beer store, it's a jobs program.
Thinking about PA booze still gives me a headache. You have to go to three stores to get beer, wine and/or beer, and mixers.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2013 06:44 AM (SUKHu)
Dude...I'm from there, remember? I grew up thinking that was the only way everyone else in the world got their beer. Watching "Strange Brew" only made me believe it more when they go try to get their free beer.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:45 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2013 10:31 AM (SUKHu)
Jason Statham Action Movie at the top of the hour
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 19, 2013 06:45 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Travis at January 19, 2013 06:45 AM (9WkMB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 19, 2013 06:45 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: RWC at January 19, 2013 06:46 AM (sqp6o)
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2013 06:46 AM (FcR7P)
Perception is 90% of reality. Glad it works for your child. That is not a blind test, but if you are happy, then the hoard is happy.
Pass the jelly biscuit please.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 06:46 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 19, 2013 06:46 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 06:46 AM (JDIKC)
Hahaha...he's eating those fancy little snack sandwiches they leave out inbetween presentations. You have burp to see what it tasted like.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:46 AM (doBIb)
Just taking a break, this couch needs some fuggin.
Posted by: sTevo at January 19, 2013 06:47 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (dental hygiene is imporant) at January 19, 2013 06:47 AM (+tsoh)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 06:48 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 10:41 AM (JDIKC)
FFS, where is "here" I never want to go there.
FWIW, I got a kick of Seattle getting all bent out of shape when their liquor prices skyrocketed when they allowed regular stores (non Gov't run ones) to start selling liquor.
Everyone yelled "see Capitalism doesn't work?!!" no one bothered to note the law included a 10% additional tax on liquor.
So the prices are roughly in line with what I pay in the midwest, until they apply the absurd (IIRC) 40% liquor tax.
Posted by: tsrblke at January 19, 2013 06:48 AM (GaqMa)
ude...I'm from there, remember?:::
Sorry, if you ever told me, I must have forgotten. Usually I have a good memory for these types of things. What part?Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 06:48 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:48 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: RWC at January 19, 2013 06:49 AM (sqp6o)
Posted by: Fatboy at January 19, 2013 06:49 AM (3o0gl)
Yeah, those ones that look very pretty and colourful and are about the size of a silver dollar. I can eat about four of them in one bite.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:49 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (dental hygiene is imporant) at January 19, 2013 06:49 AM (+tsoh)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 19, 2013 06:50 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Travis at January 19, 2013 06:50 AM (9WkMB)
The bus ride still sucked. Americans have no fucking idea how big Canada is. Isn't it the second largest country in the world, behind Russia?
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 06:51 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: RWC at January 19, 2013 06:51 AM (sqp6o)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 19, 2013 06:52 AM (MPjT8)
Apropos of nothing, I just sent you a box.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 19, 2013 06:53 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:54 AM (5H6zj)
Could all be true. People still believe pasteurization of milk is evil. It's a free country and everyone gets to make their own choices, thank god.
I worry less about that shit than being overweight and not working out. That is going to kill you faster than the plastic in a container.
Diet starts Feb 1st.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 06:54 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2013 06:54 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2013 06:55 AM (9Bj8R)
What have you done to appreciate your guns? Son is cleaning all 30 of our long guns!
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 06:55 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2013 06:55 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2013 06:56 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Fatboy at January 19, 2013 10:49 AM (3o0gl)
You can't use antibiotics in chicken per USDA guidelines IIRC. If you check most chicken in now antibiotic free. (But they still advertise it, because it allows them to charge more. The little astrick tells you about the USDA rule.
Posted by: tsrblke at January 19, 2013 06:56 AM (GaqMa)
I looked it up. Antarctica is listed, its not a fucking country. Russia, Canada China.
http://tinyurl.com/d4sjvlq
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 06:56 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2013 06:57 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 06:57 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: Travis at January 19, 2013 06:57 AM (9WkMB)
Posted by: Travis at January 19, 2013 06:58 AM (9WkMB)
Fuck look at that list. Russia is almost TWICE as big as Canada. Don't they have six time zones.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 06:59 AM (wR+pz)
Canada? That is our biggest State right? Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2013 10:57 AM (9Bj8R)
I thought it was a hat.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 19, 2013 06:59 AM (Gk3SS)
What have you done to appreciate your guns? Son is cleaning all 30 of our long guns!
There's a gun show in Raleigh this weekend. I'm going tomorrow to see how badly I'll get raped on buying ammo.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 06:59 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 06:59 AM (5H6zj)
Yeah, total crap, so says the 237 studies all magically funded by major food corporations. Have to disagree with this one. Watch Food, Inc. My wife suffers from celiac disease, which isn't actually a disease, and I see this stuff on a daily basis. It's not a joke. Some are more sensitive than others, but it's rather well established that mass produced food contains a lot of bad stuff. I've got a sister-in-law that can only eat grass-fed beef. If she eats any meat that isn't grass fed she has what amounts to an allergic reaction, her face swells up, she's in extreme pain, etc. It's no joke, if you saw pictures it would freak you out. A rare case of course, but others have reactions too, just on a smaller scale without realizing it. Why is it that we have higher incidence of mental health issues than compared with 100 or 200 years ago? Why more allergies? Why do populations in 3rd world nations who eat more normal diets have lower incidence of these conditions than we do? Why other health issues that we didn't have before? Yes we live longer, but it's got nothing to do with what we eat. It's in spite of what we eat. Biologically we were meant to have high meat high fat diets with smaller amounts of veggies and grains, this is how we lived for thousands of years. And we certainly didn't eat all these processed foods or vegetables covered in pesticides or meat from animals juiced up to make them larger who are also eating corn and other things (also covered with pesticides) that they weren't meant to eat either. It's a bit foolish to dismiss even the idea that all this might have side-effects. I had the exact same mindset about this stuff until I got married and saw what my wife goes through. It's real.
Posted by: Andrew at January 19, 2013 07:00 AM (HS3dy)
Posted by: American Dawg at January 19, 2013 07:01 AM (trA4n)
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2013 07:02 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: SurferDoc at January 19, 2013 07:02 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 07:03 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2013 07:04 AM (zfJo7)
Perusing the first news thread of the morning, it looks like lots of 'rons and their families have some sort of bug going around. I humbly offer this recipe for Hot Ginger Lemonade, which always makes the adults in the RB household feel better. (I think it would be tough to get little kids to drink this without a gallon of honey in it.)
This home remedy that was printed in the Richmond Times-Dispatch more than a decade ago. It's suggested for "chilly weather colds, flu, general aches and pains, nagging sore throats and just plain blahs. Hot ginger lemonade makes everything all right again." Hot Ginger Lemonade 2 Tbs fresh, grated ginger root (no need to peel) 2 cups boiling water 1 Tbs honey * 2 Tbs freshly squeezed lemon juice pinch cayenne pepper Put ginger shards into boiling water. Cover pot and let steep for 5 or 10 minutes. Strain out the ginger, add the honey, lemon and pepper. Stir, drink, get well. From the article: Ginger lemonade tastes best in a tempered glass or very thin china mug for reasons I don't quite understand. * I need way more honey than this to be able to drink this. Hint: Wrap knobs of fresh ginger in foil and store in freezer. It keeps a long time.
Posted by: RushBabe at January 19, 2013 07:05 AM (tQHzJ)
As with everything YMMV. The only food I have trouble with is brussel sprouts. If I even think about them, I get nauseous. Why?
Cause they taste like little turds.
Posted by: Bruce at January 19, 2013 07:05 AM (Rdesr)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2013 07:06 AM (zfJo7)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 19, 2013 07:07 AM (MPjT8)
HAYEK
You see slack in some sectors as a “general glut”
But some sectors are healthy, only some in a rut
So spending’s not free – that’s the heart of the matter
too much is wasted as cronies get fatter.
The economyÂ’s not a car, thereÂ’s no engine to stall
no expert can fix it, there’s no “it” at all.
The economyÂ’s us, we donÂ’t need a mechanic
Put away the wrenches, the economyÂ’s organic
Posted by: Illini Bill at January 19, 2013 07:08 AM (HQuBO)
Posted by: no good deed at January 19, 2013 07:09 AM (mjR67)
Posted by: beach snowsmothered at January 19, 2013 07:09 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2013 07:09 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 07:10 AM (QLuGB)
Note, this article also doesn't really address the issue. Yes, a banana is a banana. Nobody said an "organic" banana has a higher nutritional content. A banana is still a freaking banana. Organic simply refers to how it's grown, the environment, pesticides, etc. E coli? WTF does this have to do with anything? People aren't afraid of getting E coli or Salmonella from non-organic fruits or veggies or meat. If anything I would think you are less likely. I have never heard this argument anywhere. Organic beef simply means it's grass fed cows, not cows juiced on various drugs, not cows fed corn or milo that is covered in extra-strength pesticides that they won't even use on the mass produced food meant for human consumption. Often illegal actually. So instead the cow eats the bad pesticide, it goes into their system, into their meat, and then passed on to you in the form of a steak. Those same chemicals are in the steak.
And if this is all a load of crap, explain to me how my sister-in-law magically has a HUGE reaction from eating beef that isn't from grass fed cows? Not a joke. Put two steaks in front of her. One is grass fed, the other from the regular meat section at your local grocery store. She will have an allergic reaction to one and not the other.
Posted by: Andrew at January 19, 2013 07:10 AM (HS3dy)
Posted by: Little Lord Barry at January 19, 2013 07:11 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Travis at January 19, 2013 07:11 AM (9WkMB)
Posted by: beach snowsmothered at January 19, 2013 07:11 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: domestic at January 19, 2013 07:11 AM (RIbzG)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2013 07:12 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Kegger at January 19, 2013 07:12 AM (80Ifx)
Posted by: Andrew at January 19, 2013 07:12 AM (HS3dy)
You mean all the dead hostages?
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 07:12 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: doug at January 19, 2013 07:13 AM (uJ8q7)
Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children, of course) at January 19, 2013 07:14 AM (Cnqmv)
:::
Not at first, but could end up that way, and yes. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 07:14 AM (JDIKC)
And the country name is spelled Colombia.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 07:15 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 07:16 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: CAC at January 19, 2013 07:16 AM (aYKjq)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2013 07:16 AM (M0O7A)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 07:18 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: beach snowsmothered at January 19, 2013 07:18 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2013 07:19 AM (mQmzV)
Posted by: Bruce at January 19, 2013 07:19 AM (Rdesr)
Posted by: Canadians at January 19, 2013 07:19 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: beach snowsmothered at January 19, 2013 07:21 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Bruce at January 19, 2013 07:23 AM (Rdesr)
Kafirs are nothing to them.
Let's just go ahead an start this religious war or should I say lets start fighting back, the Muslims have already started the war.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 07:23 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Barack XVI at January 19, 2013 07:24 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: nip at January 19, 2013 07:25 AM (11Tdq)
Posted by: palooka at January 19, 2013 07:26 AM (EuoL1)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 07:26 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 10:41 AM (doBIb)
All the lefties I know hate them some Norman Borlaug. Which is weird since he allowed a whole bunch of brown people to not starve to death.
Posted by: Invictus at January 19, 2013 07:28 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 19, 2013 07:28 AM (nyLnk)
Posted by: Andrew at January 19, 2013 07:29 AM (HS3dy)
Posted by: Barry Soetero at January 19, 2013 07:29 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: palooka at January 19, 2013 11:26 AM (EuoL1)
I have to laugh. Most of the "farmer's markets" are guys that go to the state farmers market and buy produce there, load it into a pick up truck and pass it off as local. Check the box the fruit is in. Comes from FL 90% of the time. I even asked a "farmer" if his fruit was local. Sure is. The shit was from Plant City FL. I guess he had a big definition of "local".
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 07:29 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 07:30 AM (5H6zj)
And then they don't wash the bags...
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2013 10:09 AM (SUKHu)
...or their hands.
Posted by: Lessons from the Ceramic Throne at January 19, 2013 07:30 AM (Qb7IZ)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 07:31 AM (5H6zj)
In fact, everything on this planet is organic. The only things I wouldn't call organic would be the meteorites that have fallen here from space.
Posted by: EC
As post #66 said, organic, chemically, means carbon-based.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 07:31 AM (E7Dhv)
Thanks, Obama!
Leadership. Compelling, and rich.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 19, 2013 07:31 AM (8sCoq)
I do not understand this hatred. It's simply irrational. He did more than just help feed brown people. He helped feed the entire world.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 07:31 AM (doBIb)
Posted by: votermom at January 19, 2013 07:31 AM (9C2h1)
You inhale deeply while ironing your hemp shirt, don't you? Posted by: JDTAY
Only if you like smoking rope.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 07:32 AM (E7Dhv)
Wait, so you want to ban Valu Rite Vodka?
Banhammer!
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 07:32 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 07:35 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 19, 2013 07:35 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Icedog at January 19, 2013 07:35 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2013 07:36 AM (FcR7P)
I swear to god, I was in Vail last week an a tv ad came on for "organic water".
You can not make this shit up. The stupid is strong.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 10:23 AM (wR+pz)
Maybe it was sugar-sweetened?
Posted by: Lessons from the Ceramic Throne at January 19, 2013 07:36 AM (Qb7IZ)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 19, 2013 07:36 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Truman North at January 19, 2013 07:36 AM (I2LwF)
We need to ease wage controls, put people to work gaining world needed skills, ease enviro regs back to ~'80s level when able, free our energy sector, wean people off of the flypapers of social security and medicare etc etc etc....
instead we have weak tea pols afraid to offend anyone's sensibilities by pointing out you are either:
1) pulling the wagon of state
2) in the wagon of state
or
3) looking at the wagon of state roll along/getting in the way
and by state I mean "the people/economy" not the goddamned government.
We should be working to get everyone who is able pulling the goddamned wagon not philosophizing over the meaning of the goddamned toil.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 07:38 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 19, 2013 11:35 AM (GVxQo)
Did you ever wonder if there really is something in the food, and conservatives are just immune to it?
Posted by: Invictus at January 19, 2013 07:39 AM (OQpzc)
Thanks, Obama!
Leadership. Compelling, and rich.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 19, 2013 11:31 AM (8sCoq)
I think the American military overseas are in trouble already. American civilians can't count on Pax Americana at all.
Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children, of course) at January 19, 2013 07:39 AM (Cnqmv)
93 wtf is organic water?
I could dunk a bucket in a stream and come up with a bucket of organic water
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 19, 2013 10:27 AM (8sCoq)
Organic water has sugar in it. Some of call that Kool Aid.
Posted by: Lessons from the Ceramic Throne at January 19, 2013 07:40 AM (Qb7IZ)
What province I may have a plan?
If we were to say start buying the cheapish land in Manitoba we might be able to have a rally point.
There is borderline homesteading prices going on in Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
People and the will to earn their way are a national resource as much as coal.
Free Shit Army is trying to enslave us slowly, but ever so surely.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 07:40 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 19, 2013 07:40 AM (vJ+A4)
so basically 'organic water' is clever marketers preying on Stupid People
pls forgive the NPR link
http://is.gd/L3KwKk
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 19, 2013 07:40 AM (8sCoq)
I think it is those contrails myself!
Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children, of course) at January 19, 2013 07:40 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 07:40 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 07:41 AM (5H6zj)
Ok, how about this?
Radon gas coming out of your cellar is organic.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 10:15 AM (doBIb)
Late to this discussion, but that is nonsense. <b>Neither</b> naturally-occurring uranium ore, or spent fuel rods are "organic" in either sense of the word "organic". The proper meaning of "organic" in chemistry is the chemistry of carbon compounds, and the only carbon that might be found in uranium ore would be carbonate, which is explicitly not "organic" in chemistry. As for the BS meaning of "organic", as in "farmed naturally", well that is totally inappropriate, too.
And, for the record, spent nuclear fuel contains numerous short-lived isotopes not normally found in nature, because their half-lives are so short that they essentially decayed away to nothing over the life of the Earth.
By the way, Canadian blogger Kate McMillan's excellent conservative blog Small Dead Animals has a recurring topic title: "Organic is Latin for 'grown in pig shit'".
Hope this renders properly, that barrel looks nasty.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2013 07:41 AM (673KB)
so is Siberia....
some smart country is going to want US capitalists to be part of their engine....
put us in some remote area so we do not "pollute" their culture if needs must be but let us give you your fair cut.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 07:41 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2013 07:41 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: SurferDoc at January 19, 2013 07:41 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 07:42 AM (E7Dhv)
Posted by: nip at January 19, 2013 07:43 AM (11Tdq)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 19, 2013 10:17 AM (5H6zj)
Emo is kinda tasty, but you have to grind the tattoos off with a belt sander first.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2013 07:43 AM (673KB)
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2013 07:44 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 11:42 AM (E7Dhv)
Bison is delicious- but not cheap. Try a buffalo burger or a ribeye. And by law it must be grass fed and additive free
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 19, 2013 07:44 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 07:44 AM (5H6zj)
Emo is kinda tasty, but you have to grind the tattoos off with a belt sander first.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Emo is just pathetic. I'd rather eat shoe gaze. ;->
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 07:45 AM (E7Dhv)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 07:45 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: mugiwara at January 19, 2013 07:45 AM (hpYnL)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 19, 2013 07:46 AM (46pA5)
You are what you eat. Cows didn't evolve to eat corn but to eat grass. As I understand it, grass is easier to digest as well as contains considerably more nutrients.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 07:46 AM (E7Dhv)
Humans have worked so hard at eliminating the usual suspects in killing people via better hygiene and inoculations that we are now seeing the more obscure issues buried in our DNA come to the front.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 07:46 AM (QLuGB)
I'm 40. I grew up poor and wife and I worked our way to the middle middle class. Giggles enrages me because he keeps throwing sugar in the gas tank.
Been on my to one degree or another since I was 15.
Sorry I am ranty but the working poor grasp Obama getting back in is bad, they are seeing their CHIP allowances go down for their kids.
Not everyone is entitled to the best lifestyle on the planet but by Jesus the baseline to be paid for breathing is too damn high right now.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 07:46 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 19, 2013 07:46 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 19, 2013 07:47 AM (46pA5)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 19, 2013 07:47 AM (KBNJU)
One more thing about my favorite new movie, Gangster Squad: Sean Penn dies at the end. YOU'LL BE DANCING IN THE AISLES!
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 19, 2013 07:48 AM (8sCoq)
I tried eating food that was inorganic once. Kinda sucked. Mostly rocks, metal shavings, and crunched up bits of old electronics. I prefer my food organic
Me too. With exceptions for salt and water, which are tasty and nutritious in the right amounts.
Posted by: Grey Fox at January 19, 2013 07:48 AM (1hke+)
Yes we are, and in a fit of genius we as a planet are simultaneously reducing morality as we have more people who natural selection would have retired surviving.
It is a phenomenal intellectual laboratory possibly, BUT nature has a tendency of restoring balance all on her own without Al Gore's "help."
Something *is* going to give I suspect and it will likely be an epidemic.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 07:48 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 07:49 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 11:46 AM (E7Dhv)
Corn is grass, IIRC. Wheat, barley, and rye certainly are.
Posted by: Grey Fox at January 19, 2013 07:49 AM (1hke+)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 19, 2013 07:50 AM (Lxw+T)
which is another artificial competition inhibitor put in place by one interest group leveraging another.
I love Bison, I don't quite love the price tag the cattle biz and granola munchers have made necessary.
There're lots of ways to skin the protien cat....
moreso for women and Elton John and the President.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 07:50 AM (LRFds)
As a secular conservatarian who eats non-organic food, I will let both sides duke it out and then pillage their wimmens.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 07:50 AM (E7Dhv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 19, 2013 07:52 AM (XkWWK)
@sven,
I'm in Ontario, a bit west of Hamilton. That's because it's where I make my money. If I could move anywhere up here, it would probably be near Calgary. Definitely Alberta, though.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 07:52 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: teej at January 19, 2013 07:52 AM (tWBKX)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 07:52 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: Invictus at January 19, 2013 07:52 AM (OQpzc)
Yup....if the meat has "x amount of marble" and the muscle has "x amount of density" it is Y grade of meat.
I learned a lot working in a kroger meat dept, I also learned that I enjoyed my nightmares of that charming saw blade grabbing a bone and kissing my hand so much I went back to cashiering and bagging.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 07:53 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2013 07:53 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 19, 2013 07:53 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at January 19, 2013 07:54 AM (xiaOm)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 19, 2013 07:54 AM (vJ+A4)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 19, 2013 07:54 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: nip at January 19, 2013 07:55 AM (11Tdq)
303...Something *is* going to give I suspect and it will likely be an epidemic.
An epidemic would be 'organic', sven...as in, only killing off us organisms and leaving all the lovely buildings.
Seriously, though, that is my biggest fear...a pandemic.
Because you know that the Government thralls would all get their immunizations first, and likely be the ones to survive.
Did you hear about that 'ebola-pox' that is missing from a Russian lab?
Yeah.
Some dickhead crossed ebola with smallpox.
Posted by: wheatie at January 19, 2013 07:55 AM (fH4X9)
Yup, and people forget that "Rainbow Six" started out as something more than "an FPS set in Casinos."
Every Moron should probably read:
Crichton's State of Fear
Clancy's Rainbow Six
and Ing's Pulling Through
The majority of the ecological nutball left are relatively harmless doughheads who do not grasp economics and science.
There is however a militant minority who wack off to their only being Humanity measured in the millions.
Oddly they are not going to let "me" pick the "winners."
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 07:55 AM (LRFds)
Brain bleach stat!!!!!
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 07:55 AM (QLuGB)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 11:50 AM (E7Dhv)
I thought you were the other kind of goth. Heilans!
Posted by: Grey Fox at January 19, 2013 07:56 AM (1hke+)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 19, 2013 11:52 AM (XkWWK)
Oh good Lord, smite that dumbass. Smite him good.
Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at January 19, 2013 07:56 AM (xiaOm)
:::I believe Ray Nagin insists you refer to his fine city as Satan's Filthy, Humid Chocolate Ballsack:::
I believe Ray Nagin is going to get well acquainted with his cellmate's chocolate ballsack in prison. So fuck what he prefers.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 07:56 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 19, 2013 07:56 AM (Lxw+T)
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 19, 2013 10:43 AM (wR+pz):::
Summer of 2010. It is still strange to think of myself as a foreigner occasionally, but for the most part, it's easy to forget.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2013 10:46 AM (JDIKC)
You must be in Ontari-fucking-ario. Out here in Alberta, we have privatized the liquor stores. You can even get (gasp!) cold beer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2013 07:56 AM (673KB)
Posted by: Invictus at January 19, 2013 07:57 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 07:58 AM (E7Dhv)
This position has always seemed reasonable to me, because medical technology is continually improving its capabilities and it is obvious that many that currently (and even thrive) survive only due to such new capabilities but could not survive in a world that does not have such capablities.
Given the ability of virii to mutate faster than anyone can devise an anti-viral protection, my bet is on the virii, not the aggregate "us".
Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children, of course) at January 19, 2013 07:58 AM (Cnqmv)
Yup...there it is.
I rather enjoy people who feel the world is safer or we should just trash the defense budget.
Evil seldom sleeps, and if we cut our defense budget it would probably be a good idea to take at least 1/3d the "savings" and pump up our intel and prep for disaster readiness.
Earth is a harsh mother if we must anthropomorphize her, and her mood swings can be as mile as a gentle spank or wipe the whole skillet clean in a day.
Cherish every moment.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 07:58 AM (LRFds)
Screw a boatload of 'organic' food.
I grow a large garden every year and I try to use chemicals to improve the production any way I can. Manually pulling weeds sucks ass but this year I have it dicked because I'm going to use mulch to cover every square inch of ground along with an irrigation system to water everything I plant. RapidGro and Peters will see a heavy rotation as I try to get the most out of the soil and plants in it.
No more weeding, heat can't kill off my plants like it does yearly means higher yeilds and a longer growing season.
Organic farming my aching ass, "A better way of life through chemicals" has always been my motto!
Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at January 19, 2013 07:58 AM (IanLz)
Posted by: SurferDoc at January 19, 2013 07:59 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 07:59 AM (QLuGB)
Heh Alberta would join the US if she were sane the minute Quebec ever left Canada....
it's be funny.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 07:59 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 07:59 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 11:50 AM (E7Dhv)I thought you were the other kind of goth. Heilans! Posted by: Grey Fox
I'm not sure what the other kind is. I'm a true goth: an individual who feels trampled on by government (and society in general). The rest, the ones who toe the liberal line, are faux goth.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 08:00 AM (E7Dhv)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 19, 2013 08:00 AM (vJ+A4)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 19, 2013 08:01 AM (Lxw+T)
Posted by: Evil Blogger Lady at January 19, 2013 08:01 AM (XkmMw)
Posted by: Voluble at January 19, 2013 08:01 AM (qYvEa)
Posted by: Travis at January 19, 2013 10:50 AM (9WkMB)
When you use that kind of rhetoric, yes, you do sound crazy. It's legitimate to be concerned about some types of chemical exposure, but your ranting about it in apocalyptic language certainly does peg out the needle on my BS detector.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2013 08:01 AM (673KB)
Yup. The cities can only exist economically if they are artificial economic centers in this internet age, have an industry that is dirty, or are defacto centers of government that draw in money from more productive regions.
Ing is also one of the people I drew my famous "36 miles" two word answer from.
Basically what is happening in the US is that urban areas are eying the more economcially viable suburban model with envy from hungry impoverished eyes and rage from control freak well off ones.
Nanny Bloomberg anyone?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:02 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: no good deed at January 19, 2013 08:02 AM (mjR67)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 08:03 AM (E7Dhv)
Just thann God there are still enough "Americans" in the archaic sense of the word that they don't think they can have dear reader get on the telly and explain that "it would not have been right for us to try to save them."
That day is coming.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:03 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 19, 2013 08:03 AM (vJ+A4)
Posted by: votermom at January 19, 2013 08:03 AM (9C2h1)
Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 19, 2013 08:04 AM (azwm2)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 08:04 AM (QLuGB)
do recall I said as "free market" man I have little book with people who choose the niche organic market, where I do find grief is the nanny Bloomberg instinct they have to enforce their preference cascade by law and regs.
Never intended it towards you.
I was the same sort of "goth."
I joined the army looking rather different than most of you likely imagine me.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:05 AM (LRFds)
Back when I lived in Singapore we were talking about the weirdest things we have ever eaten. I've had many non-traditional meals. A local girl, Hetty, quietly said, "I've eaten elephant trunk."
Mr. Dave: "Hetty, that's his goddamn nose"! You win.
Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at January 19, 2013 08:06 AM (xiaOm)
You want flavorful, tender beef? Hang that carcass 18-21 days. Once you've had properly aged beef, you will stop at every market you come to, go inside to the meat counter, and slap the shit out of every butcher they have.
Posted by: jwpaine (@PirateBallerina) at January 19, 2013 08:07 AM (VcDCJ)
Wishcasting, I will admit that there are many early boomers who expressed their desire when shopping for real estate in Myrtle beach to have foot mobile amenities available.
This economy is not robust or free enough to allow casually abandoning houses.
Whereas once upon a time it was a simple matter of a tax sale from failure to pay and you were "free" nowadays the banks, cities, and counties conspire to run up quite the tally on your credit rating should you truly abandon property.
If city living for its own sake was healthy, fun, and optimal detroit would not be reverting to farmland would it?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:07 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 19, 2013 08:08 AM (Lxw+T)
I meant the Goths spoke an East German language, wore bright colors and all the gold-and-garnet jewelry they could, and were aggressive and capable warriors. Heilans means "howdy," in non-faux Gothic, as near as I remember.
I had you down for the black-clothing-and-recreation-depression type "goth," but the line about pillaging wimmenz made me wonder.
Posted by: Grey Fox at January 19, 2013 08:08 AM (1hke+)
They have no choice, I was lectured at length on the matter by a union master meat cutter at Kroger.
It is true, the first thing you learn if you work as a grill man at a chop house is they have rather strict aging rules.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:09 AM (LRFds)
332...Evil seldom sleeps, and if we cut our defense budget it would probably be a good idea to take at least 1/3d the "savings" and pump up our intel and prep for disaster readiness.
Oh, I think our government betters are probably way ahead of us, sven.
In the week leading up to 12/21/12...there were a lot of 'prepping for doomsday' shows on the History channel.
I watched one of them, done by that 'Decoding' guy and his team...
They were interviewing a guy who had spent mega bucks on this underground complex that would house 80 people.
It was very high-tech.
The guy was bragging about how he had hired some of the same people who had "created the same fully contained, underground bunkers for the government".
Our tax dollars at work.
Posted by: wheatie at January 19, 2013 08:09 AM (fH4X9)
? Getting ripe, more recently picked produce is bad?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 19, 2013 12:03 PM (vJ+A4)
I think they're talking about the "Local is better for the environment" claims. And also someone else mentioned that a lot of the "local" food seems to come from Florida with them not being in Florida. So really unless you're picking it off the tree yourself can you really be sure its actually local.
Posted by: buzzion at January 19, 2013 08:10 AM (GULKT)
I had aged beef in Iowa. I tasted rotten. Did not like.
Anyone ever had beef tongue? I was bad mouthing it the other day, and my wife said it is supposed to be pretty darned tasty. I may give it a try if I can get over the creepy factor.
Posted by: Invictus at January 19, 2013 08:11 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: nip at January 19, 2013 08:11 AM (11Tdq)
A lot of those vegetables are frozen within hours of being picked. The quality in many cases is better than the supposedly fresh stuff in the supermarket.
Of course you are a fascist oppressor for buying frozen, although that may be a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 19, 2013 08:11 AM (GsoHv)
The Greenbriar - http://www.greenbrier.com/play-here/the-bunker.aspx
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 19, 2013 08:13 AM (QLuGB)
No overpaying is though.
Freshness is largely only an issue if you eat them raw, if being used in food prep the gain is there but hardly overpowering. Bebe I don't think anyone is supporting outlawing anything so far as "freshness local happy" but there are economies involved. Economies of scale are real, as is wholesale v retail price structure to ensure profit margin.
Can you buy local?
Yup and I do for Corn, watermelon, and apples because truth be told I rather enjoy driving by the local farms that cannot realistically compete with corp farms.
Often the main thing is that they hold back the highest quality yield to take advantage of the retail margin of profit room rather than take the wholesale "guaranteed money."
Nothing wrong with it I think we're just discussing the market dynamics vs nutritional vs the God help me "food safety" gain.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:13 AM (LRFds)
Oh I certainly do black clothing, but it's not the bondage/cargo pants and t-shirts type. As some posters here are familiar with, I do a lot of historical dance/costuming. So when I do black, it's a frock coat and trousers, though the waistcoat will be jewel-toned or something. Depression? Nah. INTPs don't get depressed. Actually, I've just commissioned a 1730's Court (that's royal, not judicial) outfit in a beautiful burgundy taffeta with raised criss-crossing. I may avoid black altogether. When I win a grammy (and I plan on it), I'm going for a dark purple, late-Victorian suit with cream shirt and silver/black/purple striped cravat. Then I'm going out for the best steak I can find.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 19, 2013 08:14 AM (E7Dhv)
Heh...nice.
Basically snap freezing is another modern miracle.
It is funny how they have criminalized everything about the free market in their rhetoric and yet bitch about it "not working" though isn't it?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:14 AM (LRFds)
Let the rebels kill the hostages,
Provide enough time to pass to let innocent bystanders to clear out,
Proceed to clean up at a parliamentary pace.
Any questions?
Posted by: sTevo at January 19, 2013 08:15 AM (VMcEw)
368 Wheatie, its not a new thing about the government surviving a nuclear war.
Oh, I know, Anna.
But these guys were referring to recent underground projects that they had completed for the government.
The Greenbriar is 'old tech'.
Posted by: wheatie at January 19, 2013 08:16 AM (fH4X9)
@Invictus: properly aged beef does have a stronger beef flavor, but if it tasted rotten, it very likely was rotten (takes some skill to age meat; you can't just hang a dead mammal in your closet for a couple of weeks).
Posted by: jwpaine (@PirateBallerina) at January 19, 2013 08:16 AM (VcDCJ)
I was pale from lack of sun exposure due to school and working, I was dark around the eyes because I drank too much and pills.
I wore black sweats, a colored shirt, and black overshirt most often with shorn on the sides and back long hair dyed black because well embarassing to admit but....I loved belushi's Samurai Deli routine.....
wore sunglasses a dog chain necklace with a small padlock and tried to do right by mine and be honorable to those I was indebted to.
Why be normal?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:17 AM (LRFds)
So the distribution of fat/muscle may be different which affects the quality of the meat, but in terms of there being a difference to the animal eating that meat - in terms of "allergens" or "contaminants" or whatever it is these folks think they're detecting - I don't see the basis for that claim.
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 11:49 AM (5H6zj)
It's really quite simple. Cattle are grazing animals. Grass is what they eat, along with some other small plants (and some plants they avoid). Most beef cattle start out on grass, or hay, which is "preserved" grass, but they are usually "finished", i.e. fattened up, on corn or grain. It adds mostly fat to their mass, and not much muscle. Here in Canada, we mostly finish our cattle on barley, although corn is starting to see some use. Cattle "finished" on grass give you much leaner meat, which is sought after by many buyers, and more expensive, because you get less meat per carcass.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2013 08:19 AM (673KB)
Yup....they do indeed "help" a lot and yet they also demand things be done better when it is THEIR use involved.
I'll never forget being told by an Army cook that finally got tired of my needling on the quality of his meat....
"I'll make you a lunch like the general gets."
The gentleman was in fact a fine cook, it was adherence to federal guidelines that hampered his craft.
Our filet mignon was boiled, the General aged and lovingly cooked over a nice cooking surface.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:19 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: ette at January 19, 2013 08:20 AM (nqBYe)
Tongue retains the pickling agent or marinades rather well, and the nature of the membrane impacts the dispersal of the taste agents in play rather equally.
They are after all amazing pieces of biological engineering.
Before the '20s they were considered a prize delicacy and used and marketed in most rural areas in a manner similar to modern usage of pemmican and beef jerky.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:22 AM (LRFds)
The beautiful people consider the dutiful people to be a resource rather like chickens or dogs.
If they could figure out a way to lobotomize us they would...though I must admit pop culture is doing a rather able job it seems.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:23 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 12:23 PM (LRFds)
a lobotomy doesn't sound as harsh as it once did.
Posted by: ette at January 19, 2013 08:25 AM (nqBYe)
Yeah...Mt Weather for example.
The fact is spending mega bucks on prep is extreme and likely unnecessary, making your spread as minimally reliant on our fragile super economy as possible, and being mentally prepared for adversity is an absolute requirement though.
Chairman Soetoro may "carez about me mo'..." to hear the American Voter tell it but I assure you in the event of an ELE they would not rely on reccycling his "copious tears' for a water source, and he would be eating wugu beef watching "Homeland."
That is why I bristle at his notion that he is entitled to play with an ever increasing portion of our economy's goods and service's IOUs to sling around.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:27 AM (LRFds)
Yeah, my dad was a cook in the Navy; he told me the military tends to get the finest foodstuffs available, but the preparation and cooking of it for several hundred people at one sitting most often resulted in something less than haute cuisine.
We raised a steer a year for a while, then butchered it and split the meat with some friends of ours (who would raise a couple of hogs, butcher them, and give us one). The butcher we used for our beef made us sign a waiver to age the beef beyond 14 days, and the packages we got were all clearly stamped "Not for Resale." Man, that was good beef.
Posted by: jwpaine (@PirateBallerina) at January 19, 2013 08:28 AM (VcDCJ)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 08:30 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2013 08:30 AM (G9qZk)
Cities are based on a system structure based on the inverted pyramid. Keeping the system functional is a delicate balancing act, and it doesn't take much of a perturbation to disrupt the set of interlocking and interdependent mechanisms that are required.
Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children, of course) at January 19, 2013 08:33 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 19, 2013 08:34 AM (wBA3I)
JJ AllahPundit is rather like say Bukharin versus Stalin and Trotsky.
That is to say we have Van Jones, Obama, AP.
Part of the reason i think a divorce or a diaspora is inevitable is that the portion of the nation that is in fact conservative is being dragged against its will to collectivization it will find a dealbreaker.
"No" means no and in the 21st century people are supposed to be able to create new nations if need be or are we hypocrits when it comes to Bosnia, Serbia, what the left wanted for Iraq etc etc etc?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:35 AM (LRFds)
absolutely and they are perversely the part of the system most reliant on a genuine free market to keep people employed and their tax base humming happily along and the ones who loathe it the most.
The EPA is responsible for more slums than any Disney villain.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:36 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: SmokyBourbon at January 19, 2013 08:37 AM (2i6Vi)
People are not aware of how much luxury even our "poor" live in frankly. Obama has more power than Augustus in many ways, and can in tantrum destroy millions if not billions rather than mere tens of thousands. We are allowed to know next to nothing of his past.
People are not afraid of this....that scares the shit out of me.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:39 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 08:40 AM (5H6zj)
Again, no one is saying "no organic" people are saying stop trying to legislate and peer pressure your preference cascades on me.
If our food supply was toxic I assure you we;d all be dying rather than "obese."
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:40 AM (LRFds)
If you are for organic foods then you are also for Famine.
The Stupid is weapons grade with libtards.
Posted by: LGoPs at January 19, 2013 08:40 AM (k2wn2)
Quite true. Your post made me recall the esteemed and noted Farmer Meryl Streep's passion play before Congress on Alar in our apple system. "What are we doing to our children?" she wailed in an Oscar worthy performance.
Why to elicit this kind of impassioned response there must be an arsenic chain or mercury spike in our orchards through some error or dark corporate plot yes?
No it was a pesticide that *is* in fact shown to cause carcinogenic risks in laboratory tests and does put our food chain at risk.....
if they imbibe about the equivalent of 300 gallons of apple cider in raw form a day.......for three weeks.
Forgive me, and not diminishing the work of a charming thespian agrarian I suppose but if I am giving 10077 jr that much cider i suspect he will be having other issues.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 08:44 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 08:44 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 08:47 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 19, 2013 09:00 AM (piMMO)
That's right Farming evolved as part of a plot by Dow Chemical and a mutant scientist named Biff to destroy mankind.
There is no real gain it is a confidence trick.
Whew......
note to self send e-mail to Hrothgar asking if he sees a business model to gain by certain sectors magic thinking on economics....
Heh nice post hrothgar.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 09:01 AM (LRFds)
Thanks sven and natualfake.
I may try some tongue. My wife is one of those people who always want to something new.
Posted by: Invictus at January 19, 2013 09:02 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at January 19, 2013 09:03 AM (Ea64Y)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 19, 2013 09:15 AM (J/S+8)
Certainly Trevor but I wonder if you understand the notion of utility cost?
I'm not talking down to you sincerely.
You have X mount of arable land, x amount of potential water for agri use, x amount of acceptably yield per acre, x amount of maintaining quality for harvest cost and on and on.
Yes there is a price to be paid in utilizing chemicals for maintaining quality(ie pest control and nutrification) but there is also gain in yield per acre, reduction of manpower, hardiness of crop vs elements etc etc.
If the conundrum facing us was "it must be one or the other in usage of land" I would be more amenable to your arguments that "it is also what we add versus what we lose' with regards to pesticides and chemicals.
That is not what is in play here, we have the liberal version of Tardasil going on, and I am NOT accusing all of you have a preference for organic of being nuts.
I am saying overhyping the "dangers of frankenfood" and such artificially harms the ability to feed the maximum number of people as cheaply as possible when the hysteria uses regulatory fiat and law with bad data influencing the demand matrix when low information individuals analyze and compute utility cost for foodstuffs selection.
You gain some utility and ease of mind from the presence of "chemicals", and I will grant for the sake of argument that my use of "frankenfoods" has a real health cost.
So long as I do not legislate away your ability to have organic, so long as I do not hide data on the production methods and handling as a citizen I should be able to analyze and decide what the optimal intersection of maximum utility and cost i will bear to meet my nutritional needs.
If by eating "frankenfoods" I free up a higher portion of my income for say skills training, entertaining contacts, etc etc I have made the choice I will bear what risks I must to navigate this mortal coil in my food intake.
I think we cannot legislate a free lunch for the "maximum utlity" of pure organic with NO costs, and the altered yield, and manpower ARE costs.
I happen to like free markets regulated as minimally as is needed for genuine safety for the population at large.
"safety" meaning "will not kill high %s of users and all data is available" rather than "let Mikey Bloomberg plan your dinner for 72 years."
No offense or evil intent meant to be imputed to you.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 09:20 AM (LRFds)
Yup...this is nanny statism at its worst...people using political power to enforce and micromanage preference cascades through hysteria and maluse of "facts."
I am going to die, and judging by the bitching the politicians are gpoing on about WRT health costs and ponzi schemes pretending to be annuities I am thinking "frankenfoods" are not killing us fast enough.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 09:22 AM (LRFds)
was meant to read
You gain some utility and ease of mind from the ABSENCE of "chemicals", and I will grant for the sake of argument that my use of "frankenfoods" has a real health cost.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 09:23 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Bufalobob at January 19, 2013 09:26 AM (x+7qA)
more costly, using more land, and so on is definitely part of the plan of "sustainability", as is selling dupes through fear on the "need" to do it.
How else will we reach the "optimal carrying capacity" of the environment?
Organic food hysteria is how they're going to cull a lot of the current useful idiots.
Posted by: barbarausa at January 19, 2013 09:50 AM (WWeoI)
In fact, everything on this planet is organic. The only things I wouldn't call organic would be the meteorites that have fallen here from space.
Posted by: EC at January 19, 2013 10:07 AM (doBIb)
I like to piss off hippie eco-douchers by pointing out that crude oil comes directly from mother earth, chock full of organic goodness.
Posted by: model_1066 at January 19, 2013 09:51 AM (7xPCu)
I agree....they will be starving best case for us the third world, worst case for us us....
I don't want anyone to starve, I want to fight to sustain as many as safely possible if need be.
The 3d world hating us is justified they understand we want them dead if they can reason, and i am not the asshole who thinks a 35 year old graduate economist in Kenya is a child who can be conned.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 19, 2013 09:59 AM (LRFds)
Do people honestly believe we spend billions of dollars developing pesticides, herbicides, preservatives and manufacturing processes just to make life worse for people? Liberal hippies are going to get us all killed with their emotional arguments.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 19, 2013 10:20 AM (SkyIE)
Posted by: Y-not at January 19, 2013 10:45 AM (5H6zj)
I want to puke everytime I hear about how we need an "adult" conversation about certain topics. No, we don't, unfortunately we're not a nation of adults, at least not the ones that decide our elections.
Romney should have played Obama like Trump did, like a carnie barker. I would have made Obama's academic transcripts the centerpiece of the campaign. The ObamaPhones should have been front and center instead of MediCare.
I'd love to live in a different nation that had intelligent voters, but we don't.
Posted by: Jeepers at January 19, 2013 11:07 AM (XDRsa)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 19, 2013 11:24 AM (RXQ2T)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 19, 2013 11:51 AM (G6U3l)
A few yrs ago- my husband and i-3rd gen farmers(@ least, who knows what the tree before us was all about) decided to transition over to organic since the $$$$ was better- and steady/stable. Not going w/out saying- the costs are for sure more, too. Our main reasoning was not having to be @the mercy of the conventional market anymore- which is a scam for the farmer- where a paycheck can vary every two weeks by hundreds of dollars- and thousands if a farm is really large.
It's a shift in mindset, but it's a lot different than conventional, let me tell you. No more hormones to clean out cows, to make them come into heat(you all know about the ~heat~ part, right?)no antibiotics to settle a small cough- or a runny eye or any infection- unless we wish to forfeit the future genetics- as we have to sell treated animals... it's way more than a load of bullshit, but really- i don't much care anymore what people think.
Pesticides, herbicides, antibiotics, etc are not bad- but, IMhumbleO, they are rarely used the way they are meant to on a farm- by which i mean- overkill is natural. There are so many management practices that can be improved upon besides ~raping and reaping~ to the greatest yield- which can be detrimental to the health of our land-this monoculture mentality-...
I'm way happier w/our milk being organic and since Bernie-freaking-Socialist- Sanders hasn't helped the VT farmer survive(we have so few farms, the other kids call my kids weirdos for living on a farm)becoming an organic farmer was it- other than some low income job- both folks working, etc etc...
I'm proud to be a ~f**king Republican~, as a local crotchety carpenter building our small heifer barn recently called me. "Didn't your Father teach you better than that?!" "Sure- where do you think i learned it from?" "Whaa... he's a f**king Republican, too?"
One last thing- i didn't read through the entire thread- surprised the grousing went on for so long over organic farming... but, the comment #419 in no way speaks for me, as a VTer. Bratt is a long way from the Kingdom- that's all i have to say.
ps drink milk- it does a body good- and as the Co-op garners our pycks for both national and local advertisement- it's all good(but, ours is better:0)).
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