June 24, 2013
In: WeigOList
— Ace Groupthink.
To Cox, conversations among journalists are a necessary weapon against "groupthink," which she describes as "the biggest threat to freedom of the press." What she means is that by exchanging ideas, journalists can work together to resist conventional wisdom and the orthodoxies of those in power. Yet Cox does not seem to realize that such coordination among journalists also often creates its own form of media groupthink.Indeed, Journolist's only casualty was Dave Weigel's gig at the Washington Post; and then, almost immediately after departing, he founded a new listserv, one dedicated to promoting his writing. Ironically, Weigel's listserv morphed quickly into something Journolist wasn't: a forum in which writers of all political shades and depths talk to each other. Full disclosure: I'm on the list, but I mostly lurk.
Given that the last list was given mostly to protecting Barack Obama -- thinking up ways to push the Reverend Wright story out of the media, for example -- one has to suspect of the new list of being fairly similar in tone.
Dave Weigel was asked if he'd be asking anyone from Breitbart to join the list. He said he had no such plans at the moment.
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Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2013 08:15 AM (xZxMD)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 24, 2013 08:16 AM (/kI1Q)
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Sounds an awful lot like "spin it our way" to me....
Posted by: fixerupper at June 24, 2013 08:18 AM (nELVU)
All the shades from Stalinist to Trotskyist!
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 24, 2013 08:18 AM (Kppp9)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 24, 2013 08:18 AM (+98Gb)
I'm not sure what to think about this. Can someone enlighten me?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 24, 2013 08:19 AM (ND7TC)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:19 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 24, 2013 08:19 AM (Gk3SS)
No not that diverse...
idiots
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 08:20 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: An Artist With A Thompson at June 24, 2013 08:20 AM (RZwdH)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 24, 2013 08:20 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: joncelli at June 24, 2013 08:20 AM (RD7QR)
I am over in Europe right now in my hotel room looking for something to watch online. I can't watch my Directv online or hbogo over here!! So any recommendations of something like a good documentary that can be watched on youtube? I know Maetenloch has linked many of these from time to time, but I never bookmarked anything.
Please link me something to watch!!! I am trying to get over jetlag.
Posted by: dan-O at June 24, 2013 08:21 AM (uazxP)
Posted by: Body Builder at June 24, 2013 08:21 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: Potomac at June 24, 2013 08:21 AM (q21jI)
Posted by: An Artist With A Thompson at June 24, 2013 08:22 AM (RZwdH)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 24, 2013 08:22 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2013 08:22 AM (cnMC7)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 24, 2013 08:22 AM (ggxNE)
Weekend Edition ran a story on how the Tea Party scandal is bogus and made up.
According to NPR, plenty of liberal groups had their 501c4 applications delayed, but they couldn't name one.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 24, 2013 08:22 AM (5RUlF)
Posted by: Roy at June 24, 2013 08:23 AM (VndSC)
Bah,
Cox is an idiot.
In any self selected group of people, groupthink is the default, and all cases will eventually regress towards it.
In this case you'd just get repeated uses of the Heckler's Veto until anyone dissenting leaves out of frustration (alternatively they'll just ignore dissenters until the same happens.)
If you truly want robust debate to avoid groupthink I'm not sure it comes from self-selected groups. It comes via groups put together by happenstance, who have to listen to the detractors.
Case in point, my own experiences. The various professional groups I'm a member of are steeped in groupthink, and it's impenetrable to break in and make a dent in it (no matter how hard I try) because they simply won't listen to a noob as it were.
Meanwhile though my department can't get rid of me (without making themselves look bad) so I can tear it up there and the best they can do is argue with me (but they can't chase me off.) And indeed they haven't. (The other department I worked for last year however, just ended my contract when I threatened to break the groupthink mentality.)
Posted by: tsrblke at June 24, 2013 08:23 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Emily Litella at June 24, 2013 08:23 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: The Little List at June 24, 2013 08:23 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: T. at June 24, 2013 08:23 AM (Ccyem)
Herd animals.
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 24, 2013 08:23 AM (Iyg03)
well Poppin' Fresh is sort of vacant...Ace believes in know thy enemy...
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 08:23 AM (LRFds)
What she means is that by exchanging ideas, journalists can work together to resist conventional wisdom and the orthodoxies of those in power.
Couple of things:
1) Journalists shouldn't be concerned with resisting conventional wisdom and the orthodoxies of those in power. That's not their damn job.
2) Their job is to write things down in a coherent fashion. Full stop. They are not supposed to be trying to influence the storyline, which is what is implied by "resisting conventional wisdom and the orthodoxies of thsoe in power."
3) G-ddammit, I hate Journalists.
4) See numbers 1-3 inclusive.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:23 AM (4df7R)
Don't worry, it's for The Greater Good. The Greater Good. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 24, 2013 12:19 PM (Gk3SS)
I don't care if they coordinate.
I just care that they're all self-righteous, preening douchebags who pretend to be otherwise.
If they'd just stop that, I'd be fine with them.
But the chances of that happening are the same as they are of CAC not being high tonight.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:24 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: dan-O at June 24, 2013 12:21 PM (uazxP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
Fascinating analysis by a law school prof on why you should never talk to the police.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2013 08:24 AM (WW8xK)
Yup. Even Breitbart people slow jam the hews with this turd on Twitter. It's why I believe Rubio, et al, will get a pass come 2016. People have very short memories.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2013 08:24 AM (cnMC7)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2013 08:24 AM (xZxMD)
Weekend Editionran a story on how the Tea Party scandal is bogus and made up.
According to NPR, plenty of liberal groups had their 501c4 applications delayed, but they couldn't name one.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 24, 2013 12:22 PM (5RUlF)
Boy, it's almost as if a government-supported media outlet is trying to protect a president in favor of lots of government. But of course, that wouldn't happen, now would it?
Posted by: joncelli at June 24, 2013 08:24 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: dan-O at June 24, 2013 12:21 PM (uazxP)
This: http://youtu.be/fU6dpgzCatg
It's about the Toynbee Tiles and it's utterly fascinating.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 24, 2013 08:24 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
Fen's Law: They don't believe what they profess.
Therefore, it has nothing to do with resisting groupthink; it is groupthink.
Oh and Weigel's still a tool yet AllahP and others on the dextrosphere keep giving him oxygen.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 24, 2013 12:22 PM (XS/b3)
*****
Somebody needs new batteries in their Sarc-O-Meter.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 24, 2013 08:24 AM (ND7TC)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:25 AM (lyTr/)
Speaking of high....how was your weekend?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2013 08:25 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 24, 2013 08:26 AM (Iyg03)
Posted by: An Artist With A Thompson at June 24, 2013 08:26 AM (RZwdH)
something like a good documentary that can be watched on youtube?
There are some good Kate Upton 'documentary' out there.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at June 24, 2013 08:26 AM (jz0+s)
Posted by: Lauren at June 24, 2013 08:26 AM (wsGWu)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 24, 2013 08:27 AM (ggxNE)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 12:25 PM (lyTr/)
Eh, that actually makes sense.
Many of us 'round these parts are more of the classic liberal type (and/or varying degrees of conservative)
As such we're pretty big on the free exchange of ideas and robust debate.
But that's bad for messaging. Neo-liberals (and their progressive spawn) however are obsessed with "authority" and "expertise" which makes messaging easier because they just go to the "guru" who tells them what to believe.
Posted by: tsrblke at June 24, 2013 08:27 AM (GaqMa)
Crossbows!
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 24, 2013 08:27 AM (/kI1Q)
there is not a *we* so much as a McCain Gang and *us*
we will never defeat liberalism with the Nixonian Regulatory Command Economy GOP going down first
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 08:27 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: The Barrel at June 24, 2013 08:28 AM (jJA/4)
I will give her credit for one thing, she can take a joke on Twitter at least
Ten years ago, she was a big boobed butterface making sure she was in the middle of every picture at a public gathering
Posted by: kbdabear at June 24, 2013 08:28 AM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 24, 2013 08:28 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at June 24, 2013 08:28 AM (epxV4)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:28 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 24, 2013 08:29 AM (jjvz+)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 24, 2013 12:26 PM (Iyg03)
And see I never understood this. If I want to try out my swipe at a liberal, sure I'm going show it to a friend first, who checks it for consistency (and tone, I'm really bad with tone)
But then I need a squish liberal, so I go find one to test it on (usually either my wife or another one of my friends.)
You gotta test this stuff in the wild, passing amongst people who already agree with you is really only useful for checking internal consistency.
Posted by: tsrblke at June 24, 2013 08:29 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 12:25 PM (lyTr/)
And this is exactly why!
The Dems have no coherent message, but they have almost perfect message discipline, and that trumps the cacaphony that is the current Republican party.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2013 08:29 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: Invictus at June 24, 2013 08:29 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2013 08:29 AM (xZxMD)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at June 24, 2013 12:23 PM (4df7R)
Yup. Still reading MWR rants and hearing them en voce con forza
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:29 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Lauren at June 24, 2013 08:30 AM (wsGWu)
According to NPR, plenty of liberal groups had their 501c4 applications delayed, but they couldn't name one.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 24, 2013 12:22 PM (5RUlF)
Boy, it's almost as if a government-supported media outlet is trying to protect a president in favor of lots of government. But of course, that wouldn't happen, now would it?
Posted by: joncelli at June 24, 2013 12:24 PM (RD7QR)
Why anybody with a functioning cortex would listen to state run media is an ongoing mystery to me.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 24, 2013 08:30 AM (Ze1eT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 24, 2013 08:30 AM (jjvz+)
I would like to thank you for affirming my previously announced life decision to take up drinking. I mean more so.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 24, 2013 08:30 AM (Gk3SS)
Lists are for losers. I hope they realize they (list members) are irrelevant. They have devolved to a bunch of punching bags. And when it REALLY burns, they'll be the first ones shot.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 24, 2013 08:30 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: An Artist With A Thompson at June 24, 2013 08:30 AM (RZwdH)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 24, 2013 08:30 AM (+98Gb)
And you just know their servers are probably hosted by Media Matters.
Incestuous doesn't even begin to describe them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 24, 2013 08:30 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Mallfly, man of Mystery at June 24, 2013 08:30 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 12:28 PM (lyTr/)
Yeah.
No, that part is moronic, stupid, and unreflective.
Having said that, we don't live in a logical society, we live in an emotivist one, so I can see how we lose to these fuckers: because groupthink is great for messaging, and messaging is how you win over those who care no for logic.
Posted by: tsrblke at June 24, 2013 08:30 AM (GaqMa)
Speaking of high....how was your weekend? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2013 12:25 PM (WW8xK)
Not too bad.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:31 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: New World Socialists at June 24, 2013 08:31 AM (El+h4)
Yeah, I'm sure they encompass the entire political spectrum: From far left to really far left.
Posted by: Russian Border Guards at June 24, 2013 08:31 AM (Q9qpj)
Conspiracy 2001 Wannsee Conference film by K Brannagh.....
witness hive mind and the mainstreaming of monstrosity...
it's sad watching the yes evil but at least non death camp genocidal assholes cave to the will of Heydrich...
want to know how IRS malfeasance grows the tumor...?
Watch the film...
no the IRS is not the Nazis.....yes this conference is a classical illustration of the use of the hive mind to attempt from a legal POV to meet leadership's illegal goals without having proof of his direct culpability....
the sad thing is there is no Soviet Union and America to save the IRS' victims and the GOP looks more Vichy Fwance than UK
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 08:31 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2013 12:29 PM (xZxMD)
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Actually, I think Jim Carrey had an uncredited cameo appearance in that film.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 24, 2013 08:31 AM (ND7TC)
Posted by: obamuh at June 24, 2013 08:31 AM (rNS5g)
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2013 08:31 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 24, 2013 08:31 AM (jjvz+)
"What she means is that by exchanging ideas, journalists can work together to resist conventional wisdom and the orthodoxies of those in power. "
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And yet, they rewrote conventional wisdom, prevented facts from being presented, and did everything they could to promote the orthodoxies of those in power.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 24, 2013 08:31 AM (jqLfq)
Posted by: Mikado at June 24, 2013 08:32 AM (ZPrif)
I would like to thank you for affirming my previously announced life decision to take up drinking. I mean more so. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 24, 2013 12:30 PM (Gk3SS)
C'mon back up. Vendette gave me a lovely bottle of local small batch bourbon at the NoVAMoMee
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:32 AM (sbV1u)
That one never did compute for me. Why would Bill Bennett for example be a Trotskyist in the eyes of the academes?
Can some smart ass here step forward and call me an idiot and explain this to me?
Posted by: Sphynx at June 24, 2013 08:32 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2013 08:32 AM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Russian Border Guards at June 24, 2013 08:32 AM (Q9qpj)
Posted by: Mallfly, man of Mystery at June 24, 2013 12:30 PM (bJm7W)
Speaking as a Communications major (which isn't journalism, but pretty close), allow me to BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAA! HAAAA! BWAHAHAHAHAAAA!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:32 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: RiverC at June 24, 2013 08:33 AM (El+h4)
Trayvon, Zimmerman, and Obama walk into a bar ...
Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at June 24, 2013 08:34 AM (codCi)
Posted by: tony redenzo at June 24, 2013 08:34 AM (RGkdD)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2013 12:24 PM
No, it'll be because Rubio like McCain and Miss Lindsey suddenly rediscover conservatism at election time. Lots of "But.. but .. DEMOCRATS!!" scarey stuff.
Posted by: kbdabear at June 24, 2013 08:34 AM (/9IC1)
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2013 12:31 PM (KXm42)
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Second look at Monrovia???
Posted by: fixerupper at June 24, 2013 08:34 AM (nELVU)
Facts are racist.Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2013 12:32 PM (uhAkr)
Don't go there my nizzle.
Facts will cut a bitch.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:34 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 24, 2013 08:34 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: An Artist With A Thompson at June 24, 2013 12:30 PM (RZwdH)
I'm not sure Weigel shows up here in links. I googled it, and found two instances, but not for a very long time.
That's not a perfect way of checking, but it's a pretty good indication.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2013 08:34 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:34 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: Lauren at June 24, 2013 08:34 AM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2013 08:35 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 24, 2013 08:35 AM (nUH8H)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 24, 2013 08:35 AM (nUH8H)
I was lamenting on the previous thread, after murdering Fire Marshall Bill on twitter, that I had to leave my party gift of Jack Daniels Single Barrel here with the wife. *sad panda*
BLASPHEMY!!
Stone him!!!
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:35 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 24, 2013 08:36 AM (nUH8H)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 24, 2013 08:36 AM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2013 08:36 AM (9Bj8R)
*sad panda* Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 12:34 PM (lyTr/)
Now that is just not right.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 24, 2013 08:36 AM (Gk3SS)
These assholes are just barely smart enough to be dangerous.
Posted by: ontherocks at June 24, 2013 08:36 AM (vB/AO)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 24, 2013 12:31 PM (sbV1u)
Care to elaborate? Did anyone describe it anywhere?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2013 08:36 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 24, 2013 08:36 AM (ZPrif)
>> So in order to avoid groupthink they form a group. Mull that over for a while.
I appreciate it for the brilliant performance art that it is.
Posted by: sandy burger at June 24, 2013 08:36 AM (rm2L3)
White facts are only facts if they denounce themselves.
Colored facts are only facts if they accept their role as aggrieved underdog that will be discarded and beaten when they no longer have a large enough voting bloc / flow of cash.
Posted by: RiverC at June 24, 2013 08:37 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: BCochran198-Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 12:19 PM (lyTr/)
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But no commenting privileges.
Posted by: Decaf at June 24, 2013 08:37 AM (HDQgw)
Awww, I'm sorry to hear you're under the weather, AllenG. 
Get plenty of rest and fluids.
Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:37 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 24, 2013 12:34 PM
Well, it ain't working for Gabe Gomez in MA. Being a Navy SEAL can't overcome the innate strength of being an Irish Democrat.
I'm definitely writing in Vermin Supreme tomorrow....
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 24, 2013 08:37 AM (/RIVS)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:37 AM (lyTr/)
Care to elaborate? Did anyone describe it anywhere? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2013 12:36 PM (WW8xK)
Yes, but I am too lazy to link.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:37 AM (sbV1u)
Yup...let 'em try they are fucking the American working poor with this...
"but commies COMMIES!" won't work they just empowered the timebomb....
threat averted embrace the suck
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 08:37 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 24, 2013 08:38 AM (0HooB)
Drinking my morning coffee, just talked to the roofers (they're coming out tomorrow), and have been perusing the news and I've come to my daily conclusion. For those of us that wanted to let it burn.....well.....it's burning.
Posted by: Soona at June 24, 2013 08:38 AM (ls4V8)
Plus he defends the Orthodox Church (to some extent.) That's cool as well.
Posted by: RiverC at June 24, 2013 08:38 AM (El+h4)
On this list, Dave Weigel and David Brooks sit around and cut the Brie together in their impeccably creased trousers.
Posted by: Sphynx at June 24, 2013 08:38 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 24, 2013 08:38 AM (nUH8H)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:39 AM (lyTr/)
By the way, propagandists are philosophical cowards. They have no confidence that in factual, honest debate their arguments will win. So instead they form private groups in which they share ideas with like-minded individuals and give each other accolades. They deviously control the media to be one sided in support of their ideas.
Which is why;
#1 People hate and distrust the media
#2 They consistently fail when the ideas and personalities they've pushed (ahem Obama, the PPACA, etc.)
Posted by: Marcus at June 24, 2013 08:39 AM (GGCsk)
12 women, and cold hard facts along with 2 bucks will get you a small coffee at Starbucks. It'll be about FEEEEELINNNNGSS and lots of presentations of St Trayvon in his Hollister shirt looking like a 12 year old choirboy.
That monster with a GUN kilt a chiiiiillllddd
Best case scenario is a hung jury
Posted by: kbdabear at June 24, 2013 08:39 AM (/9IC1)
I can't carry it on. I'm not checking a bag, but even if I was, would you trust it to the geniuses who load airport luggage? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 12:37 PM (lyTr/)
All I know is this...
If there's chance....even just a slim chance....to bring that kid home in one piece. We've got to take it.
Let's roll.
:::: cue "24" tick-tock theme ::::
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:39 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 12:25 PM (lyTr/)
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Not losing to them but to the IRS, NSA, EPA.......
Posted by: Decaf at June 24, 2013 08:39 AM (HDQgw)
The working poor were the original LeftWoobie. Woobies are a reverse pyramid scheme: Last in gets the best deal. First in is the first to get thrown under the bus when no longer useful for the Revolution(tm)
Posted by: RiverC at June 24, 2013 08:39 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 24, 2013 08:40 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jesus at June 24, 2013 08:40 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 24, 2013 08:40 AM (nUH8H)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 24, 2013 08:40 AM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Soona at June 24, 2013 12:38 PM (ls4V
E yup. The kindling's been lit
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at June 24, 2013 08:40 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:40 AM (lyTr/)
it just means another McCain ganger to vote democrat he bragged about voting democrat...
winning is losing b/c it'd be the "gang of 9" with the 5thGOPer pulling the mules left in all likelihood
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 08:40 AM (LRFds)
It's always a good idea to read Ana Marie Cox.
Not only is she into assfucking, but she breaks the stories that Ace hides from us.
Posted by: jwest at June 24, 2013 08:41 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 24, 2013 08:41 AM (2up3Q)
12 women, and cold hard facts along with 2 bucks will get you a small coffee at Starbucks. It'll be about FEEEEELINNNNGSS and lots of presentations of St Trayvon in his Hollister shirt looking like a 12 year old choirboy.
If only I were one of the women on that jury. I would c*nt punch the first twit who invoked FEEEEEEELINNNNNGSS as justification for railroading an innocent man, and then kick her while she was down.
*sigh*
Missed opportunities.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:41 AM (4df7R)
NDH, Andrew Branco, the lawyer whose Twiter feed is linked, noted the bad joke but has also said that ever since, Zim's lawyer has "been like a terminator" with fact after fact. Of course, he's just one man, and the guy is a self-defense law specialist, so he may be a bit biased. And, you never can tell how emotion will factor in. But I'm cautiously optimistic.
I probably shouldn't be.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 24, 2013 08:42 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 24, 2013 08:42 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2013 08:42 AM (KXm42)
If only I were one of the women on that jury. I would c*nt punch the first twit who invoked FEEEEEEELINNNNNGSS as justification for railroading an innocent man, and then kick her while she was down.
:::: swoon ::::
:::: sigh ::::
Come baaaaaaaaaack!!!
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:42 AM (sbV1u)
It was funny to hear them interview the wonderful Metropolitan Hilarion of the ROCOR (US Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia):
Them: "So, what language do you do services in?"
Hilarion: Oh, English of course. It needs to be in the language of the people.
Them: WHAAAAT? You don't do services in semi-incomprehensible medieval Church Slavonic!??!?! HERESY
Hilarion: (shrug)
Posted by: RiverC at June 24, 2013 08:42 AM (El+h4)
There's no UPS Store that you could take it to, have them pack it all careful and then overnight to yourself?
I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 24, 2013 08:42 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 24, 2013 08:42 AM (nUH8H)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 24, 2013 12:38 PM (nUH8H)
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Yeah .... i watch him on Wallace's show on Sunday. He was explaining how he wasnt a typical Republican. Quite a litany of things he's not down with.
Mrs Fixer commented.... "Sounds like he not a Republican".
Posted by: fixerupper at June 24, 2013 08:43 AM (nELVU)
South Carolina...do this tie and shoes REALLY go together?
//Texas
http://youtu.be/s62MrU8mHx4
Jazz hands Up and 2 3 4
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 08:43 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:43 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 24, 2013 08:43 AM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Decaf at June 24, 2013 08:43 AM (HDQgw)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 24, 2013 08:43 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 24, 2013 12:42 PM (sbV1u)
lol!
You know, I have to visit again. It was so lovely down there! I didn't have time to explore properly. And I'd like to see the Smithsonian before the Muzzies take over the country and burn the museums down.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:43 AM (4df7R)
Posted by:Lauren at June 24, 2013 12:30 PM (wsGWu)
How is it that he gets only six jurors, not twelve?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2013 08:44 AM (fNpC1)
Zimmerman is Hispanic. Hispanics are the new Left Woobie, so Zimmerman will prevail, much to the wailing of those on the Plantation. It has been ordained from on high (on cocaine).
Posted by: RiverC at June 24, 2013 08:44 AM (El+h4)
I'm telling you man, Annual NoVaMoMee.
You coming?
You were my entertainment!
Well, that and watching two guys trying to hit on my wife and Vendette before you got there.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:44 AM (sbV1u)
they hiring?
Exile in Siberia if allowed to help the state gain and mostly ignored may well be preferable to Ogabe's plans for our nation...
Putin has not declared war on creature comforts...
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 08:44 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at June 24, 2013 08:45 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 24, 2013 08:45 AM (XIxXP)
Btw, speaking of pandas, sad or otherwise....how the fuck did the National Zoo lose a motherfucking panda?
And PS, a red panda isn't a panda, it's a fucking raccoon. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:45 AM (lyTr/)
OT: According to that Twitter link on the sidebar, Zimmerman's lawyer is
crushing the state's case with cold hard facts. No telling how it's
playing in person, however.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 24, 2013 12:28 PM
Zimmerman's lawyer is putting the jury and Zimmerman to sleep.
Instead of a compelling, hard-hitting narrative that would set the stage for the evidence portion of the trial, Don West is droning on about minute details that no one in the jury could possibly understand at this point.
If Zimmerman's lawyers continue to be this bad, I expect them execute George with a bullet to the back of the head, and charge his family for the bullet.
Posted by: jwest at June 24, 2013 08:45 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 24, 2013 12:44 PM (sbV1u)
You didn't box their ears?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:45 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 24, 2013 08:46 AM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2013 08:46 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: The Barrel at June 24, 2013 12:44 PM (jJA/4)
This is why we can't have nice things. Or indeed fetid, scummy things that smell rank and glow faintly in low light.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:46 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:46 AM (lyTr/)
There's a turd on the floor Posted by: The Barrel at June 24, 2013 12:44 PM (jJA/4)
That comes standard. You don't get diharrea until you order the 4x4 Limited Edition barrel.
You're welcome.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:46 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: blaster at June 24, 2013 08:46 AM (c28BI)
Posted by: willow at June 24, 2013 08:47 AM (nqBYe)
IKR, With my complexion and physiology, I'm probably built for Siberian weather.
We'll build a giant war mecha spider to take over the world, because that obviously has worked every time.
Posted by: RiverC at June 24, 2013 08:47 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2013 08:47 AM (xZxMD)
Posted by: Buzzion at June 24, 2013 08:47 AM (ck3fe)
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2013 08:47 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2013 08:47 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Waldo at June 24, 2013 08:47 AM (RZwdH)
You know, I have to visit again. It was so lovely down there! I didn't have time to explore properly. And I'd like to see the Smithsonian before the Muzzies take over the country and burn the museums down. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at June 24, 2013 12:43 PM (4df7R)
Plus bookstore!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 24, 2013 08:47 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: RiverC at June 24, 2013 12:47 PM (El+h4)
I like your thinking, and am interested in subscribing to your newsletter.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:48 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 24, 2013 08:48 AM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 24, 2013 08:48 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: RiverC at June 24, 2013 12:44 PM
La Raza and the rest of the Hispanic "leadership" has thrown Zimmerman under the bus
"White Hispanic" you know. Doesn't count unless he's got a Spanish surname, unless he's a Dem politician
Posted by: kbdabear at June 24, 2013 08:48 AM (/9IC1)
You didn't box their ears Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at June 24, 2013 12:45 PM (4df7R)
Nope. Frankly, it happens a lot with my wife when we're out. She's got that cute, "girl next door" look that 20 and 30-something losers read as "easy pickings."
So they give it a shot. It's really fun to watch her turn their grapes to raisins with a smile.
No intervention necessary.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:49 AM (sbV1u)
Btw, speaking of pandas, sad or otherwise....how the fuck did the National Zoo lose a motherfucking panda?
And PS, a red panda isn't a panda, it's a fucking raccoon.
For some reason getting pandas to mate in captivity is like pulling teeth. Like they get all fat and happy and decide that humping just isn't worth the effort. Then when they actually get some offspring (after absurd levels of effort on the part of zookeepers) they do something strange like roll over on it or ignore it or something. No wonder the damn things are endangered.
Posted by: joncelli at June 24, 2013 08:49 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: The Barrel at June 24, 2013 12:44 PM (jJA/4)
This is why we can't have nice things. Or indeed fetid, scummy things that smell rank and glow faintly in low light.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at June 24, 2013 12:46 PM (4df7R)
===========
No, we can't have nice things because you all drink to much and nobody has the common courtesy to get a hose and rinse me out once in a while
Posted by: The Barrel at June 24, 2013 08:49 AM (jJA/4)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 08:50 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 24, 2013 12:47 PM (Gk3SS)
YES. BOOKSTORE!
Next time I'm driving. I don't care if it's ten hours, a hellacious portion of which will involve driving through fucking Hartford. I am NOT checking a bag, dammit. I will stuff my Accent's ickle trunk with all my stuff and leave my backseat free for books.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:51 AM (4df7R)
No, we can't have nice things because you all drink to much and nobody has the common courtesy to get a hose and rinse me out once in a while
Posted by: The Barrel at June 24, 2013 12:49 PM (jJA/4)
You're lucky we haven't offshored your job to China.
You know how many barrels would be thankful for your gig?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:51 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: willow at June 24, 2013 12:47 PM
That was Ace's excerpt from Cox's article.
Posted by: kbdabear at June 24, 2013 08:51 AM (/9IC1)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 12:39 PM (lyTr/)
Pretty much.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2013 08:52 AM (WW8xK)
People were waiting for it.
Posted by: blaster at June 24, 2013 12:46 PM (c28BI)
And the funny thing is, they were probably just going to re-sell it. At least that's the way it is here in Connecticut. We've got a handful of guys who show up first thing every morning after a truck night.
Posted by: Russian Border Guards at June 24, 2013 08:52 AM (Q9qpj)
Next time I'm driving. I don't care if it's ten hours, a hellacious portion of which will involve driving through fucking Hartford. I am NOT checking a bag, dammit. I will stuff my Accent's ickle trunk with all my stuff and leave my backseat free for books. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at June 24, 2013 12:51 PM (4df7R)
Call me first.
I have a route around Hartford and it doesn't take any extra time.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 08:52 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 24, 2013 08:52 AM (71LDo)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 24, 2013 08:52 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: fluffy at June 24, 2013 08:52 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: The Barrel at June 24, 2013 12:49 PM (jJA/4)
It would kill you to roll into the lake and take a bath? Entitled little bastard.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:53 AM (4df7R)
Ana Marie Cox is a "journalist"?
I thought she was a sloppy drunk who writes TMI blog posts about buttsechs.
Go figure.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 24, 2013 08:53 AM (gqT4g)
Gomez is enthusiastic for the Gang of Ocho, and he allegedly released some statement of eternal fealty to TFG a few years ago. So I'm not sure what the difference is between him and Markey.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2013 08:53 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 24, 2013 08:53 AM (QLNHI)
For there is no true perspective about what is actually "outside" the box unless you see what's inside.
I think that was Confucious, but it could be some asshole management book author.
Posted by: grognard at June 24, 2013 08:53 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Waldo at June 24, 2013 08:54 AM (RZwdH)
I have a route around Hartford and it doesn't take any extra time.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 24, 2013 12:52 PM (sbV1u)
Oooh, really?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:54 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2013 12:47 PM (xZxMD)
That tough to find twelve honest men there, eh?
Means they must have given up on juries altogether in DC.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2013 08:55 AM (fNpC1)
To think outside the box, one must first create the box and climb within in.
For there is no true perspective about what is actually "outside" the box unless you see what's inside.
If the box is a barrel, you can be sure that inside you'll find:
A) TANSTAAFL; and
B) Turds
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:55 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at June 24, 2013 08:56 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 24, 2013 12:52 PM (sbV1u)
Oooh, really?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at June 24, 2013 12:54 PM (4df7R)
It's my understanding that Hartford is not exactly clean and safe. True?
Posted by: joncelli at June 24, 2013 08:57 AM (RD7QR)
I'm definitely writing in Vermin Supreme tomorrow....
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 24, 2013 12:37 PM (/RIVS)
As I said yesterday, Gomez was quite the pandering turd on FNS, listing a child's garden of donk positions with which he was in the tank for. Like Scotty Centerfold without an offsetting BammyCare pledge, which to his credit he kept. On the other hand, if I saw Anti Biz Markey lurking around my neighborhood I'd make extra certain my dog was spayed.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 24, 2013 08:57 AM (Ze1eT)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2013 12:55 PM (fNpC1)
I think in DC they just forego the judicial system in favor of full personal and professional lynchings.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 08:57 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AoSHQ style guide at June 24, 2013 08:57 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 24, 2013 08:57 AM (0HooB)
222
Don't forget that Zimmerman had a black great grandfather which would have been enough to claim affirmative action rights.
Heh.
Posted by: Elizabeth "Sitting Bullshit" Warren at June 24, 2013 08:58 AM (jz0+s)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 24, 2013 08:59 AM (QLNHI)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2013 08:59 AM (xZxMD)
Posted by: joncelli at June 24, 2013 12:57 PM (RD7QR)
I believe I have made my hatred of Boston well known on this blog, have I not? Just in case I haven't, i"ll reiterate: I HATE BOSTON.
But Hartford?
Hartford makes Boston look like Anne of Green Gables.
I swear I84 is Lucifer's freeway. It must be twisted into some profane symbol of Satanic worship. There's no other way to describe how fucking AWFUL it is trying to drive through Hartford on 84.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 09:00 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: fluffy at June 24, 2013 09:00 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 09:00 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: sweet...ish at June 24, 2013 09:01 AM (bj+Nc)
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2013 09:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 09:02 AM (lyTr/)
heh the Anglos think it is race...Affirmative Action is about "left" boys....
//Chutch
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 09:02 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 01:02 PM (lyTr/)
From what little I got to see of the DC/NoVa traffic situation, I can believe it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 09:02 AM (4df7R)
I am over in Europe right now in my hotel room looking for something to watch online. I can't watch my Directv online or hbogo over here!! So any recommendations of something like a good documentary that can be watched on youtube? I know Maetenloch has linked many of these from time to time, but I never bookmarked anything.
Please link me something to watch!!! I am trying to get over jetlag.
Posted by: dan-O at June 24, 2013 12:21 PM (uazxP)"
Well, there is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=tku8YI68-JA&NR=1
It may not be your cup of tea but it will at least you will know more about the subject than 90% of the people who run their mouths.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at June 24, 2013 09:03 AM (31Nrp)
Last saturday, my "local" gander mountain had boxes of 9mm (it lasted about 1/2 hour), including boxes of 350 rounds, and the smaller 50 round boxes.
There was also some .22 LR
That gander mountain has had .223 for a few weeks in a row now too.
Posted by: GMan at June 24, 2013 09:03 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2013 09:05 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 09:05 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: CAC, living in the land of the 405, the 91, and the 5-22-57 interchange at June 24, 2013 09:06 AM (xeigO)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2013 09:06 AM (RJ+Yj)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 24, 2013 09:07 AM (V1ZIU)
"Full disclosure: I'm on the list, but I mostly lurk."
Breitbart would be proud.
Ana Marie is the lurker, not anyone from Breitbart.
Posted by: Decaf at June 24, 2013 09:07 AM (HDQgw)
Posted by: CAC, living in the land of the 405, the 91, and the 5-22-57 interchange at June 24, 2013 01:06 PM (xeigO)
:-P
The Beltway. Fucking hell. I'm driving to the airport this morning and there's this little car that keeps drifting all over the place. I mean, halfway into other lanes. Almost sideswiped 3 different cars. I finally get an opening where I can get up around it....early 20's chick texting. At 70 mph. On the FUCKING BELTWAY.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 01:05 PM (lyTr/)
I'd say, "I hope you flipped her off and insulted her parentage," but she probably wouldn't have noticed anyway.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 09:07 AM (4df7R)
BackwardsBoy - I need to find a bumpersticker that says "I didn't vote for this shit". I still have my Romney sticker on my car with the idea that it sends that message, however it would be nice to just be able to say exactly that. Will you be able to see the burning of Sanford when the jury comes back in the Zimmerman trial? I'm in central Fl so I will be battening down the hatches.
Oh yeah, I'll be able to see it. Have a bunch of friends up there.
They're ready.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 24, 2013 09:08 AM (0HooB)
He's like the Captain America of the Boomer tag end hippie set....
GO STONER GO!
It is charming that liberal democrats get to have pasts...
we don't
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 09:08 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 09:10 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: CAC, living in the land of the 405, the 91, and the 5-22-57 interchange at June 24, 2013 01:06 PM (xeigO)
Amateurs.
Posted by: The Cross Bronx Expressway at June 24, 2013 09:10 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at June 24, 2013 09:10 AM (Vgn84)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2013 09:11 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2013 09:12 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2013 09:12 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2013 01:11 PM (9Bj8R)
Hate speech and act Law to be enforced in 3... 2... 1...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2013 09:13 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Paula Deen at June 24, 2013 09:13 AM (LVtKQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2013 09:13 AM (9Bj8R)
You know, you put this shit together with the fact that Dems have the allegiance of most of the Big Data players, and most of the federal bureacracy, especially the DoJ and IRS, and you start to get a whiff of a very large propaganda machine, designed mostly to make the Tea Party (read organized opposition) go away at election time, dontcha?
If there wasn't something like that going on, how would things look any different? Mind control on a grand scale is another way to look at it.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 24, 2013 09:14 AM (6rLSO)
Posted by: sweet...ish at June 24, 2013 01:01 PM (bj+Nc)"
No need to feel left out. I suspect that we will all get to share in the fun. A lot of media professionals worked very hard to crank up emotions in order to increase black turn out in November. Now a jury can either ignore facts and the law to send an innocent man to prison for defending himself or we will have a lot of unfortunate things happening all over the country when the verdict is announced. I am not making any predictions which way it will go.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at June 24, 2013 09:15 AM (31Nrp)
I know we have some teachers and teacher's spouses on the HQ, but I feel sorry for y'all. You're surrounded by some of the stupidest people ever churned out by a Liberal Arts education.
Teacher Training's Low Grade
U.S. colleges of education are an "industry of mediocrity" that churns out teachers ill-prepared to work in elementary and high-school classrooms, according to a report by a nonprofit advocacy group that represents the first comprehensive review of such programs.
The study, by the National Council on Teacher Quality, which has long promoted overhauling U.S. teacher preparation, assigned ratings of up to four stars to 1,200 programs at 608 institutions that collectively account for 72% of the graduates of all such programs in the nation. U.S. News & World Report will publish the results Tuesday. They are similar to the magazine's rankings of top colleges, undergraduate engineering programs and business and law schools—which are widely followed but whose methodology some education officials have criticized...
...The council included criteria such as the selectivity of the teacher programs, as well as an evaluation of their syllabi, textbooks and other teaching materials. It said fewer than 10% of the programs earned three or more stars. Only four, all for future high-school teachers, received four stars. About 14% got zero stars, and graduate-level programs fared particularly poorly.
As has been stated here at the HQ many times, Education degrees are where the kids go who are too stupid to major in anything else. It sounds harsh, but it is honest-to-God the truth. I pity anyone who pursues an education degree because they actually want to be a successful teacher or administrator who can help shepherd young people through their youth and into productive lives beyond grade school. They're just going to find themselves stuck in classrooms with idiots who can't even spell "binomial," let alone teach it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 24, 2013 09:15 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 09:15 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: CAC at June 24, 2013 09:16 AM (xeigO)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 24, 2013 09:16 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 24, 2013 01:14 PM (6rLSO)
Well... if we actually had a Federal Election Commission?
This was a Conspiracy, to silence the Political Free Speech Rights of millions of American Voters... DURING a contentious election.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2013 09:16 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 24, 2013 09:17 AM (VtjlW)
That sounds like pretty much all of NoVa/DC/MD Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 01:02 PM (lyTr/)
Not even.
You have to see how I-84 jinks and weaves through downtown Hartford - at 65 mph - to really appreciate it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/b][/u] at June 24, 2013 09:18 AM (sbV1u)
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Quit hatin' on the Pandaren.
Posted by: Anachronda is trapped in a car repair shop behind the Zion curtain at June 24, 2013 09:19 AM (2IZFp)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 24, 2013 09:19 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 24, 2013 09:19 AM (XIxXP)
65mph?
On 84 through Hartford?
It's usually a fucking parking lot when I have driven through HArtford.
Posted by: The Cross Bronx Expressway at June 24, 2013 09:20 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 24, 2013 09:20 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 24, 2013 01:19 PM (XIxXP)
Dear Penthouse... you won't believe what...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2013 09:20 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 09:20 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 24, 2013 09:21 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 09:21 AM (lyTr/)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 24, 2013 09:21 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 09:21 AM (lyTr/)
“I wasn’t much different from any other confused, hurt and angry young man,” he wrote on his website. “Yes, I did use illegal drugs, drink too
much, lose my temper, go to jail overnight a couple of times and get some probation."
“I’m running for Iowa’s US Senate seat in 2014 because our country needs me.”
Eventually, you'll find someone who will take that job for the pittance they pay.
Posted by: jwest at June 24, 2013 09:22 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 01:05 PM (lyTr/)"
If you have somebody else in the car it is always fun to have them call 911 with a description of the car and license plate number as well as what they are doing and what road they are on.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at June 24, 2013 09:23 AM (31Nrp)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 24, 2013 09:24 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 24, 2013 09:25 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2013 01:12 PM (KXm42)
thats the one Posted by: CAC at June 24, 2013 01:16 PM
Also the 10, the 110, and the 101
Posted by: kbdabear at June 24, 2013 09:25 AM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Roscoe P Coltrane at June 24, 2013 09:33 AM (51moJ)
I drove through Hartford...once...and didn't notice anything special. Maybe that's because I'm used to the Surekill Crawlway here in Philly.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 24, 2013 09:35 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: People on the Right Still Linking Weigel at June 24, 2013 09:37 AM (n0B9h)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 24, 2013 10:07 AM (57bzg)
I'm sure i'm just as shocked as everyone else to read that, never will understand why so many on the right keep giving Weigwl and Kacyzinski form Buzzfeed any creedence.
Posted by: booger at June 24, 2013 10:39 AM (E1tcO)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 24, 2013 11:56 AM (qyfb5)
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Posted by: Dave Weigel at June 24, 2013 08:15 AM (EGPJQ)