October 28, 2013
— Pixy Misa Howdy, 'Rons n' 'Ettes. This is your ol' buddy Damn Dirty RINO. I'd like to tell you about an ol' bunch of foxhounds I got: Ol' Ring, and ol' Tige and ol' Rover. And we start out across them Georgia hills a-huntin' them fox, it sounds somethin' like this.
Seriously, though, I'm just stepping in for Maet while he's out finalizing the adoption papers on some Chinese kid named Hai Wei. Apparently, the process is rather travel-intensive, as it requires him to spend a lot of time on the road. And, from what I gather, he has plans to adopt all the child's siblings as well, since he mentioned something about picking up the litter. It's an odd way to refer to a family, for sure. But, you know, that's Maet. I wish him well.
Speaking of child-rearing, one of the great challenges facing parents in the age of tweets and text messages is ensuring that their children are able to communicate with the written word. "You are" has been replaced with the shorthand "UR". "I don't know" has become "idk", and so on. It's convenient and time-saving in an age of instant and constant interaction, but the over-reliance on abbreviations has a way of robbing both the reader and the writer of the ability to clearly elucidate their thoughts according to universal standards among people who speak the same language.
Fortunately, 'Rons n' 'Ettes are a uniquely perspicacious lot who stress reading at an early age to their children. And, thankfully, there are still publishing houses who cater to the needs of such families.
The ability to communicate through the written word is crucial to maintaining a functioning society. After all, in a world of illiterates, no one would know if a vending machine were out of order, which exit to take for gas, food or lodging, or what rules to observe in order to avoid inconveniencing other people who share the same space.
Of course, reading and writing require practice in order to master them, and even the most apt student will experience the occasional malapropism. I consider myself reasonably proficient as a reader and a writer, but that doesn't mean I don't make mistakes. Still, I strive for clarity in written communication, if only to avoid unnecessary confusion.
And, when you think about it, the ability to read and write is the only thing that allows us to learn by means other than experience. It's a way of passing along knowledge and information from one person to the next by actually sharing experience with people who might not otherwise have the opportunity to gain it themselves. This can be particularly important in cases where specific knowledge is needed and lives are at stake.
Now, none of this should be construed as a pronouncement on the mental capacity of those who have trouble reading. Literacy, after all, is but one facet of human intelligence. It is possible to be an utterly brilliant human being, and yet be unable to read or write at all. A person can have great difficulty in communicating or comprehending the written word for a host of reasons, such as an undiagnosed vision problem or dyslexia, and still excel in other disciplines like math, science, music or art.
Conversely, a person may be a gifted writer and voracious reader, and yet be incapable of performing the most mundane tasks most of us take for granted every day.
Nevertheless, those who do struggle with written communication would in all but the rarest of cases concede that their lives would be much easier if they were more proficient at it. After all, while they can be very effective means of expression, speech and body language have their limits. There's hardly a person alive who hasn't experienced some degree of embarrassment or humiliation as a consequence of a misspoken word or misinterpreted gesture.
The development of written language is among the greatest achievements in human history. The exchange of information and knowledge in tangible form is the very cornerstone of civilization itself, and it all started with figures scrawled on cave walls and shapes drawn in dirt. And, despite the evolution of language down through human history that enables us to easily express incredibly subtle concepts, we still employ such crude pictures and shapes as a means of communication to this day.
The written word is an incredibly powerful tool that has enabled mankind to accomplish things that would be utterly inconceivable to societies prior to its advent. It has contributed to the creation breathtakingly beautiful works of art, astounding scientific achievements, and the introduction of earthshaking concepts.
And yet, there are some things that defy words. For instance, this ginger:
Tonight's ONT brought to you by the English language:
Posted by: Pixy Misa at
06:30 PM
| Comments (443)
Post contains 839 words, total size 8 kb.
Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 28, 2013 06:29 PM (TVoGH)
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at October 28, 2013 06:31 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Vendette at October 28, 2013 06:33 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 28, 2013 06:34 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at October 28, 2013 06:34 PM (dFCjF)
Posted by: toby928© at October 28, 2013 06:35 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 28, 2013 06:35 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 06:36 PM (MVBSu)
FWIW (carrying over thought from thread below) - my 12-year-old daughter with Down syndrome is more intellectually curious that the JEF.
And she is NEVER bored.....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 28, 2013 06:36 PM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 28, 2013 06:36 PM (MnSla)
Posted by: MTF at October 28, 2013 06:36 PM (Wp/g8)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 28, 2013 06:37 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: MTF at October 28, 2013 06:37 PM (Wp/g8)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 28, 2013 06:38 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 28, 2013 06:38 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Y-not at October 28, 2013 06:38 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2013 06:38 PM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 06:39 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: My Name is Nobody at October 28, 2013 06:39 PM (5Q1ZU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 06:39 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 28, 2013 06:39 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: tangonine at October 28, 2013 06:39 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: toby928© at October 28, 2013 06:40 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at October 28, 2013 06:40 PM (Wp/g8)
Posted by: Thrawn at October 28, 2013 06:40 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Splunge at October 28, 2013 06:40 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: no good deed at October 28, 2013 06:40 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 28, 2013 06:40 PM (PZ6/M)
Posted by: bocephus at October 28, 2013 06:40 PM (UwwvU)
Posted by: tangonine
Mmm... gingerbred.
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2013 06:40 PM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 28, 2013 06:41 PM (TVoGH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 06:42 PM (aDwsi)
It was likely like weight lifting with double ended Q-tips as barbells.
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 06:42 PM (MVBSu)
On a personal note....I can't decide what is worse.
At the Amtrack station to get the oldest daughter back from college for a few days to get her winter clothes (translation....i don't like any of these...take me shopping) or...
15 year old son came with me so he can drive home. First highway trip for the youngest pup.
Death or poverty?
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 28, 2013 06:42 PM (tvecY)
Posted by: Y-not at October 28, 2013 06:42 PM (5H6zj)
I kinda like the Berry Girl.
Her technique is unpolished and a bit awkward but she seems eager and I would imagine she's a quick enough learner.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2013 06:42 PM (Iaf8m)
Posted by: MTF at October 28, 2013 06:43 PM (Wp/g8)
Part of the problem is that we are, generally, classically liberal -- unlike the progressivist retards at the heart of academia, the media, and the Democratic party. We are creatures of the Enlightenment and fans of Adam Smith, John Locke, and individual rights. So if someone is well read from certain periods of history, they think it normal to refer to themselves as "liberal" without realizing the way that "Marxism-lite" has redefined the term.
And, incidentally, the Tea Party are among the purest of the Classical Liberal types....but get branded as "reactionary" and "anti-intellectual" by the totalitarian dickwads in the media and universities.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 06:43 PM (T1005)
Her technique is unpolished and a bit awkwardbut she seems eager and I would imagine she's a quick enough learner. Posted by: garrett
She needs to focus. Seems too easily distracted.
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2013 06:43 PM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 28, 2013 06:44 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 06:44 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 28, 2013 06:44 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 06:44 PM (aDwsi)
@46...Snyder will probably ask Goodell how much he us willing to pay him to change the name.
Followed by Jerry Jones announcing he is changing the Cowboys name to the Dallas Redskins.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 28, 2013 06:45 PM (tvecY)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 06:45 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2013 10:35 PM (Hx2XA)
Yes. The kind of stupid leftist apparatchik that will never, even until the grave, get it.
Posted by: cm9000 at October 28, 2013 06:46 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: MTF at October 28, 2013 06:46 PM (Wp/g8)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 06:46 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 28, 2013 06:46 PM (TVoGH)
He's a faker. I had a roommate in college who would sound smart by parroting other people in the room. He never offered anything original or first.
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2013 06:47 PM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 06:47 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 06:47 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 28, 2013 06:47 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2013 10:35 PM (Hx2XA)
Yes. The kind of stupid leftist apparatchik that will never, even until the grave, get it.
Posted by: cm9000
Sounds good to me, summon The Death Panel!
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2013 06:48 PM (Hx2XA)
My brother asked my Mother about a word in the grocery store. He read a sign as "prostituted" and asked what the word meant. Mom said I'll explain it outside and did. After the explanation my brother was confused. The sign said "Shoplifters will be prosecuted"
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 06:49 PM (MVBSu)
-------------------
I question that. I do not believe that he is well educated at all..., he exhibits that all of the time. He speaks "a bunch" of this or that. He uses the word 'stuff'. Any time he has to deal with hard facts, he extemporizes. I do not think he is well educated at all.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 10:44 PM (aDwsi)
I think the OP had it right -- but note the difference between "overeducated" (i.e. "spent too much time with Marxist professors") and "well-educated" (i.e. "learned much that is useful, interesting, or thoughtworthy").
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 06:49 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at October 28, 2013 06:49 PM (b9K4P)
Posted by: Thrawn at October 28, 2013 06:50 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 28, 2013 06:50 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: toby928© has a dirty joke at October 28, 2013 06:50 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 28, 2013 06:50 PM (TVoGH)
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2013 06:51 PM (Hx2XA)
Posted by: no good deed at October 28, 2013 06:51 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: Vendette at October 28, 2013 06:52 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 28, 2013 10:44 PM (aTXUx)
Oh what fun is it to ride a chick like that all day.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 28, 2013 06:52 PM (FMbng)
I know for a fuckin fact that reading encouragement and books in the house equals smarter kids. It's axiomatic, it would seem, to me. And I am never, ever bored. I don't have enough hours in the day to read everything and do everything I want to. I don't even understand how someone can be bored. Might be because of my childhood:
Me: I'm hungry.
Mom: Make some toast.
Me: I'm bored.
Mom: Go weed the garden.
Me: I weeded the garden, but I'm still bored.
Mom: Read a book.
End of cycle. Once I really started reading, at 7 or 8 or so, bored no more. Certainly the same for most of us morons.
Posted by: kalneva at October 28, 2013 06:52 PM (XyrkB)
My brother asked my Mother about a word in the grocery store. He read a sign as "prostituted" and asked what the word meant. Mom said I'll explain it outside and did. After the explanation my brother was confused. The sign said "Shoplifters will be prosecuted"
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 10:49 PM (MVBSu)
One of my favorite teacher corrections (my parents did teaching, so the stories made the rounds) was one where a student had written: "The woman tripped at the top of the stairs, rolled down, and lay prostitute on the floor."
The teacher wrote, "You need to work on the distinction between a fallen woman and one who has temporarily lost her balance."
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 06:53 PM (T1005)
Posted by: AltonJackson fukcing hates Arthur at October 28, 2013 06:54 PM (JMmQ9)
There's a young Downs woman a couple houses down the street from me and we chat frequently.
I'm convinced there's not less mental capacity there. What there is, is different mental capacity.
Her powers of observation about details of the goings on in the neighborhood are freaking incredible, far beyond mine. Strange cars that don't belong, things out of place, people who don't belong, odd behaviors "normals" might miss, she sees and makes chronological metal note of it all and can recount it in detail.
She may struggle a bit with the language when articulating everything she knows, but what she knows impresses the hell out of me when she finally gets it out.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 06:54 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: Vendette at October 28, 2013 06:55 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 06:57 PM (GEICT)
I nominate Empire of Jeff for Secretary of War..... no more Department of Defense bullshit anymore you pansy ass bootlickers.
War!!1!!11!!!
Posted by: Just Say No to Establishment Republicans at October 28, 2013 06:57 PM (txvt7)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 28, 2013 06:59 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 06:59 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2013 06:59 PM (sdi6R)
Hell the reference to the "Fallen Woman" would be lost on most English majors now.
I am a total idiot and one of the things that saved me was the classical English lessons I was exposed to at home.
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 06:59 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 28, 2013 10:44 PM (aTXUx)
Oh what fun is it to ride a chick like that all day.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 28, 2013 10:52 PM (FMbng)
Flash your left boob once, flash your right boob twice.
Posted by: manometer at October 28, 2013 07:00 PM (vjrgd)
Posted by: The Political Fiddle at October 28, 2013 07:00 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2013 10:47 PM (Hx2XA)
---------
I noticed this about barky in 2008. Every dem debate, the first question went to Hillary Clinton. Every single fucking time. And every time barky was given his moment to answer the same question, he simply parroted whatever Hillary said. Every fucking time. He would throw in the word "change" or "hope" or "fair share", but always said the same thing Hillary said. I remember one of the debates when the mod said first question we will start with Sen. Clinton..... she jokingly said " again? Can't you start with one of these guys first one time?" She knew damn well barky was copying her and getting the credit for originality from the msm. Dear God, how I wish she and Billy boy would have detonated on that shit stain instead of worrying about offending the black voters.
Posted by: madamemayhem at October 28, 2013 07:00 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 28, 2013 07:01 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 28, 2013 07:01 PM (JMmQ9)
Back in the 80s in the NYC area there was a singing comic named John Valvey AKA Dr Dirty who did just that.
Posted by: kbdabear at October 28, 2013 07:02 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 07:02 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: CarolT at October 28, 2013 07:02 PM (z4WKX)
Anyway, there was a chapter that was titled "Replicas", but in a major screw up it was spelled Reprica. I still laugh at that shit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 28, 2013 07:02 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 07:02 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 07:03 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Se Léodweardprætt Hæt at October 28, 2013 07:04 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 07:05 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Vendette at October 28, 2013 07:05 PM (MpP9p)
Oops. I used an abbreviation instead of your handle. I'm an abbreviating mofo.>>
Will you please come with us we have some questions. Oh and bring your papers.
Posted by: The Stasi at October 28, 2013 07:06 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 07:06 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Vendette at October 28, 2013 10:55 PM
Don't even get me started. I did a whole pile of rewritten christmas carols after 9-11-01 that basically were about wasting asshole terrorists.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 28, 2013 07:06 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 07:06 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Vendette at October 28, 2013 07:07 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Infidel Librarian at October 28, 2013 07:07 PM (Zm1xX)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 07:07 PM (Z9EHQ)
Would have been the best move for the north too. The industrial revolution was going to render slavery uneconomical as an institution within 20 years. The social dynamic of the south was destined to change, and no amount of dinosaur tar pit thrashing would change that.
I think the Brits were keen to get a piece of the south's output and an economic piece of the development west of the Mississipi and kind of egged the south on.
Both north and south would have benefited from a grand partnership deal with the Brits for economic development of the west.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 07:07 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 07:07 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Incurious Barry at October 28, 2013 07:08 PM (ShNqq)
Posted by: no good deed at October 28, 2013 07:08 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 07:09 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 11:06 PM
What do you want to do with it? Why is history out?
Posted by: beavis at October 28, 2013 07:09 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 07:09 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Vendette is a loving Auntie to 2 boys and 2 girls at October 28, 2013 07:10 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 07:11 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: toby928© has a dirty joke at October 28, 2013 07:12 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 07:12 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 07:12 PM (aDwsi)
The waiting list for the operation he needed was two years long.
He came he, and had his lifesaving operation within weeks.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 07:12 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: Incurious Barry at October 28, 2013 07:13 PM (ShNqq)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 07:13 PM (DmNpO)
Longtime Moron JackM's dog died the other day. If you have a twitter account, please go there and let him know the HQ cares. @jackmcoldcuts We maybe dysfunctional, but we really are family here.
JackSaysVoteKinsey þ@jackmcoldcuts
My old dog died. His best friend, my young dog, is mourning. It's gut wrenching.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 28, 2013 07:14 PM (vYJuY)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 07:14 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 07:15 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 07:16 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 07:16 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 07:16 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Incurious Barry at October 28, 2013 07:17 PM (ShNqq)
Posted by: Vendette is a loving Auntie to 2 boys and 2 girls at October 28, 2013 07:17 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 11:15 PM
Oh, ok. I can see that. Still, what's the plan for the degree? Or, is it for just the paper, etc?
Posted by: otho at October 28, 2013 07:17 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Northernlurker at October 28, 2013 07:18 PM (BLAfs)
Posted by: The Stasi at October 28, 2013 07:18 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 07:20 PM (DmNpO)
True Story, told to me by a retired NYC detective:
Back in the 60's the detectives who worked the Times Square area were well acquainted with a local perv who was a regular at the booking desk...
...they called him "Tuna Can Tommy" cuz his junk was no longer than a tuna can is tall
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 07:20 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 28, 2013 07:20 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Infidel Librarian at October 28, 2013 07:21 PM (Zm1xX)
Posted by: L, elle at October 28, 2013 07:21 PM (0xqKe)
Posted by: eman at October 28, 2013 07:22 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 28, 2013 07:22 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 07:23 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 07:23 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 07:23 PM (4BA+Y)
I thought there were way bigger issues than slavery the south was pissed about that actually started the war. Yes history focuses on slavery but the Feds/north were forcing other economic/control stuff the South was willing to fight for IIRC.
Posted by: The Stasi at October 28, 2013 07:23 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: EROWMER at October 28, 2013 07:24 PM (OONaw)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 07:24 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 28, 2013 07:24 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: toby928© has a dirty joke at October 28, 2013 07:25 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 07:26 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: thunderb at October 28, 2013 10:39 PM (zOTsN)
Me, too. Truly heartwarming, it was.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2013 07:26 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 07:26 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Vendette is a loving Auntie to 2 boys and 2 girls at October 28, 2013 07:26 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 11:06 PM (N/cFh)
Animal Husbandry.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 07:26 PM (T1005)
He actually spoke the famous line attributed to WC Fields. He introducing Fields on short noticed and came up with, "Anyone who hates children and animals cannot be all bad."
Posted by: Epobirs at October 28, 2013 07:27 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 07:27 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Incurious Barry at October 28, 2013 07:28 PM (ShNqq)
Posted by: The Subversive Hat at October 28, 2013 07:28 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 28, 2013 07:29 PM (TVoGH)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 28, 2013 07:29 PM (QBSWR)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 07:29 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Lauren at October 28, 2013 07:30 PM (ELdpj)
I had my career before I emigrated. Now my family and our small businesses are my career (although I don't do much for the businesses as of yet). I don't need a degree. I want to learn. I fortunately, all I have learned so far in the course of my AA is how to play piano (still beginning), and what I learned in anatomy and physiology.
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 11:23 PM
I see. Well, if the paper is of no consequence, you could save yourself a lot of aggravation and $$$ by choosing a subject that interests you, hell, more than one subject... and hitting books, etc. You'll probably learn more than at uni. That is, if the official quals mean nothing. University is more a process, than a learning experience. Unless you go sciences.
Posted by: otho at October 28, 2013 07:30 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 07:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 28, 2013 07:31 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 07:31 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 07:32 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Bill Gates and Steve Jobs at October 28, 2013 07:32 PM (ShNqq)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 07:32 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 11:05 PM (bb5+k)
Dare I ask where?
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 11:16 PM (Vk2pI)
Talk polywell dot org
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 07:34 PM (XnALK)
All the ordinances of succession listed slavery as the sole or primary reason for leaving.>>
Googeld and read. Other than the repetition of "Slave Holding states" I saw no other mention of slave.
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 07:34 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: Thomas A. Swift at October 28, 2013 07:34 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 28, 2013 07:34 PM (4PEF9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 07:34 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 07:35 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 28, 2013 07:35 PM (KJXYt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 07:36 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 07:36 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 07:37 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 28, 2013 07:37 PM (QdOC1)
Posted by: Bill Gates and Steve Jobs at October 28, 2013 07:37 PM (ShNqq)
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 07:38 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 07:38 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 07:38 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 07:39 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 28, 2013 07:39 PM (4PEF9)
Posted by: Vendette at October 28, 2013 07:39 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: manometer at October 28, 2013 11:00 PM (vjrgd)
That's a lot of pressure...
Posted by: tangonine at October 28, 2013 07:39 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 28, 2013 07:39 PM (XIRMS)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 07:39 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 07:39 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 07:40 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 07:40 PM (4BA+Y)
.
All of the ROTC programs at HBCUs (historically black) were kept.
The cut schools almost all are 70-90% white.
Obama is determined to turn the military into a Diversity Awareness jobs program.
Let's be clear what's happening. The army is actively discriminating on the basis of race.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 11:39 PM (ZPrif)
What.
The.
Fuck.
Posted by: tangonine at October 28, 2013 07:41 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 28, 2013 07:41 PM (4PEF9)
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 07:43 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 11:06 PM (N/cFh)
You want a degree that will be a ticket to employment, or just to become a more educated person? If it's employment, what sort of work would you envision doing? You could get a 4-year degree in geology, and probably get a job as a wellsite geologist, but your home life would suck, since there aren't many wells being drilled in Virginia, AFAIK.
Language degree, maybe? Commerce? Nursing?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2013 07:43 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 07:43 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 28, 2013 07:43 PM (4PEF9)
Posted by: phunctor [/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 07:43 PM (FMsYN)
Posted by: sure sucks to be unarmed at October 28, 2013 07:44 PM (ShNqq)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 07:44 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The Stasi at October 28, 2013 11:23 PM (MVBSu)
There was more to it than just slavery, but the point remains. Had they not attacked ft Sumter, they would likely have been able to remain as a separate Nation.
Without justification for an invasion, there was no political will to fight them over it.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 07:44 PM (XnALK)
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 07:44 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 07:46 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: RWC- Human Splatchcock Victim at October 28, 2013 07:46 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 28, 2013 07:47 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: mindful webworker - lurking offstage at October 28, 2013 07:47 PM (U13jb)
It appears to be them all.
http://www.constitution.org/csa/ordinances_secession.htm
I am a Northerner so I could just say "We won suck it south" But I have read things about what the federal govt was doing in applying taxes and such to the South that make me wonder what the real impetus was for the war was. Ending slavery needed to happen but even Lincoln said that was at least negotiable for a time.
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 07:47 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: sure sucks to be unarmed at October 28, 2013 07:48 PM (ShNqq)
Posted by: madamemayhem at October 28, 2013 07:48 PM (S2RnE)
I'm just listening on the radio, but that was good. The Seahawks can't hope for a deep playoff run if those OL injuries keep up. With all the shootouts we've seen it was still good to enjoy and old-fashioned grind-it-out game.
And yeah, Tate's penalty was Teh Stoopid.
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 11:43 PM (4BA+Y)
We need our tackles back, especially Okung.
Posted by: kalneva at October 28, 2013 07:48 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 07:48 PM (4BA+Y)
Obama needs a military that won't question an order to shoot at Americans.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 28, 2013 07:48 PM (102Hx)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 07:49 PM (N/cFh)
I do have a memory foam mattress, though.
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 10:47 PM (N/cFh)
That's a start...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 28, 2013 07:49 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: sure sucks to be unarmed at October 28, 2013 07:50 PM (ShNqq)
And my point was slavery wasn't the only driver. Thank You
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 07:50 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 28, 2013 07:50 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 07:51 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Guido at October 28, 2013 07:51 PM (JvtXj)
Posted by: barry obams at October 28, 2013 07:51 PM (ZBz9f)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 07:52 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 07:52 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Vendette, brunette at October 28, 2013 07:52 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 28, 2013 07:53 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 07:53 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: RWC- Human Splatchcock Victim at October 28, 2013 07:54 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 28, 2013 11:34 PM (4PEF9)
This is true, but when it would have been noticed that mechanical harvesting and planting was cheaper, only a fool would have wanted to keep the other system.
It might have taken far longer, but it would have been abolished eventually. I will point out that Massachusetts and Pennsylvania were still slave states after the constitution was ratified.
They got rid of it, and the other states would have done so eventually. It was just far more integrated into their economic output and so it was a lot harder, but machinery would have worked that transformation.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 07:54 PM (XnALK)
177
Animal Husbandry.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 11:26 PM (T1005)
---
Allergic to animals. Unless you were suggesting I leave Dave and marry an animal. In which case, I'm still allergic to animals.
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 11:32 PM (N/cFh)
Actually, doing it in "mike drop" style was meant to be a humorous reference to already having Dave as husband, but the actual topic wasn't. Noticed the price of beef lately?
And this fits in to a more general observation. I've spent a lot of time around Silicon Valley, and every so often there's a wave of "purification" that comes through -- ISO, Six Sigma, TQM....and each one has two major features -- first, figure out what you're doing and really think about it, then do it better.....and, second, whatever new buzzword you're adopting, start insisting that your suppliers bow down before the same buzzword.
So if I'm making widgets for the CATV biz, Comcast might start going, "we're becoming NudzhNik compliant, so we need you to become NudzhNik certified." And we roll our eyes and trot down to throw money at NudzhNik certification specialists and go through the rigmarole of revising all of our documentation....and, finally, get to the last bit before we get that piece of paper that allows us to continue to serve 30% of the market.....and find we have to send the NudzhNik certification request letters to our major suppliers.....
And it long ago occurred to me that there is a natural limitation for all of these schemes -- because sooner or later, you'll send that letter to some guy who goes out into the dirt and harvests those crops, or hauls out that ore, or raises those cattle, or cuts down that tree.....and he'll look at you and say, "blow it out your ass, pansy-boy."
It was a moment of zen. We have built so much of our well-being on the shuffling of paper, telling of stories, or refinancing....that adds no value of its own -- while the wresting of value from the land, air, and sea through sheer will and effort is treated like some sort of traveler's tale, or myth. All the NudzhNik compliance specialists in the world won't turn over a spadeful of dirt.
And when TFG burns everything down around his quite outstanding set of ears, there will be no replacing those folks who actually create something for his crumbled dreams of redistribution.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 07:54 PM (T1005)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 28, 2013 07:54 PM (tfh+/)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 11:32 PM (N/cFh)
If you want to attend university, but don't need the piece of paper, ask if you can "audit" courses. You sit in class, hear the lectures, maybe even do assignments, but don't get graded.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2013 07:55 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Civilian National Security Force at October 28, 2013 07:55 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 28, 2013 07:55 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 07:56 PM (aDwsi)
Nothing like some poorly motivated employees to f*ck sh*t up.
Motivation and positive rewards work sorta more better.
Posted by: Bill Gates and Steve Jobs at October 28, 2013 11:37 PM (ShNqq)
Sing it to the Saudis.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 07:56 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 28, 2013 07:56 PM (HVff2)
Therefore such an organization must have resulted either in utter failure or in the total overthrow of the Government. The material prosperity of the North was greatly dependent on the Federal Government; that of the the South not at all. In the first years of the Republic the navigating, commercial, and manufacturing interests of the North began to seek profit and aggrandizement at the expense of the agricultural interests. Even the owners of fishing smacks sought and obtained bounties for pursuing their own business (which yet continue), and $500,000 is now paid them annually out of the Treasury. The navigating interests begged for protection against foreign shipbuilders and against competition in the coasting trade. Congress granted both requests, and by prohibitory acts gave an absolute monopoly of this business to each of their interests, which they enjoy without diminution to this day. Not content with these great and unjust advantages, they have sought to throw the legitimate burden of their business as much as possible upon the public; they have succeeded in throwing the cost of light-houses, buoys, and the maintenance of their seamen upon the Treasury, and the Government now pays above $2,000,000 annually for the support of these objects. Theses interests, in connection with the commercial and manufacturing classes, have also succeeded, by means of subventions to mail steamers and the reduction in postage, in relieving their business from the payment of about $7,000,000 annually, throwing it upon the public
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 07:58 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 28, 2013 07:59 PM (aqfuo)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 08:02 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: CAC at October 28, 2013 08:02 PM (i+TK9)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 08:03 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 08:03 PM (aDwsi)
Brazil argues that you're wrong. Slavery was as entrenched there as in the south, yet the slaves were manumitted peacefully within a few decades of the US Civil War.
Posted by: Weirddave at October 28, 2013 11:39 PM (XIRMS)
It was a moral wave sweeping the planet around that time, and it was rooted in Christianity.
The pressure on the South to abolish slavery would have been consistent and would have lasted past the first generation into the more amenable second.
The man who wrote the Hymn "Amazing Grace" was himself a slave trader (John Newton) who eventually realized it was wrong and immoral.
This social pressure would have never dissipated and it would have eventually vanquished slavery. Even Washington converted to an Anti-Slavery position in his later years.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 08:03 PM (XnALK)
Posted by: RWC- Human Splatchcock Victim at October 28, 2013 08:04 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Epobirs at October 28, 2013 08:05 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 28, 2013 08:05 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: stutterk at October 28, 2013 08:06 PM (z6eaQ)
Posted by: Museisluse at October 28, 2013 08:06 PM (DsB2E)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 11:56 PM (T1005)
Riyadh looks great on the surface. Just make sure you don't have to take a piss in a bathroom in one of the marble-clad shopping malls. Make sure your tetanus shot is up to date.
Whole (whore?) city is a turd with gold plating.
Posted by: tangonine at October 28, 2013 08:06 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 28, 2013 11:41 PM (4PEF9)
Slavery is still going on in Africa and the Middle east.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 08:06 PM (XnALK)
Posted by: Civilian National Security Force at October 28, 2013 08:07 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 08:08 PM (Vk2pI)
I can't teach history with links but FU and the tl;dr I'm gonna be a LIV.
Just like our curent fight for survival against the Federal govt is complex and we are losing because of the tl;dr contingent. The civil war was not fought for the sole reason of slavery.
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 08:08 PM (MVBSu)
The second is . . . well, Dr. Mrs. and I raised OC. We've had seventeen years to instill our values, a habit of independent thinking, a skeptical attitude, and respect for facts over opinions. Will it work? We'll see over the next four years.
Posted by: Trimegistus at October 28, 2013 11:39 PM (4PEF9)
Not sure where you are sending your kids. I will say some of the most hardcore conservatives I have ever met went to Cal Berkeley. I also have some "friends" who are total depressed angry Obamabots that I went to college with, and I attended a christian school that had chapel three times a week.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at October 28, 2013 08:08 PM (b9K4P)
Posted by: Civilian National Security Force at October 28, 2013 08:08 PM (DmNpO)
FACT: Nothing in #Obamacare forces people out of their health plans. No change is required unless insurance companies change existing plans.
8:07 PM - 28 Oct 2013
By this logic, if I swing a baseball bat and it hits you in the head and you die. ItÂ’s the fault of the baseball bat (or maybe your head ? or something).
Posted by: Shoeless Joe Jackson at October 28, 2013 08:09 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: t-bird at October 28, 2013 08:09 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: L, elle at October 28, 2013 08:09 PM (0xqKe)
Posted by: Vendette at October 28, 2013 08:10 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 08:10 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 08:12 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: stutterk at October 28, 2013 08:12 PM (z6eaQ)
Posted by: Epobirs at October 29, 2013 12:05 AM (kcfmt)
Thing is -- personal pleasure drives economics, too. Regardless of how many "guns and butter" curves that are drawn in microeconomics classes, there's also "petroleum engineers and masseuses" and "forklift drivers and butlers" tradeoffs. Some people will eat totally unhealthy crap in order to have a bigger flatscreen TV that pipes stuff into their brains that is worse that what goes in their stomachs.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 08:12 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Vendette at October 28, 2013 08:13 PM (MpP9p)
FACT: Nothing in #Obamacare forces people out of their health plans. No change is required unless insurance companies change existing plans.
8:07 PM - 28 Oct 2013
What she doesn't mention is that a change in your premium, even if there are no changes in coverage, is considered a change in an existing plan.
So, for the insurance companies its comply or go bankrupt as costs rise.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 28, 2013 08:13 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 08:14 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at October 28, 2013 08:15 PM (glXuU)
I am a Northerner so I could just say "We won suck it south" But I have read things about what the federal govt was doing in applying taxes and such to the South that make me wonder what the real impetus was for the war was. Ending slavery needed to happen but even Lincoln said that was at least negotiable for a time.
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 11:47 PM (MVBSu)
He said he would give them slavery lock stock and barrel if they would just rejoin the Union.
I was somewhat shocked when I read that, but it is cut in stone at the Lincoln Memorial.
Again, it is a WTF moment?
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 08:15 PM (XnALK)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at October 28, 2013 08:17 PM (glXuU)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 28, 2013 08:18 PM (fR6i8)
Except the Saudis didn't have to make such choices. The profits on the mineral wealth were vastly out of proportion to the cost of the indulgences. Sure, they managed to come up with absurd new forms of luxury to throw money at but long after sleeping with a different hooker every night lost its novelty.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 28, 2013 08:18 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 08:18 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 08:18 PM (Vk2pI)
As an apology I give you this NSFW (not porn) fun.
http://tinyurl.com/lf4uojj
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 08:21 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 28, 2013 08:21 PM (R8Qio)
Posted by: RWC- Human Splatchcock Victim at October 28, 2013 08:22 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: The Hickster at October 29, 2013 12:08 AM (MVBSu)
On the Northern side, it was initially fought as a punitive expedition for the attack on Ft. Sumter. The Northern army thought they would wade in and put a quick stop to this silly secession nonsense, and so they were utterly shocked when they got their ass handed to them.
From the Southern side, it was defending your state and your allied states against an invading army. (post Ft. Sumter)
Funny thing is, back during the debates on the constitution people suggested something like this might happen, but our founders wrote in the Federalist papers that such an idea as the Federal government sending the armies of some states to oppress others was nonsense.
The Federalists were utterly wrong about that.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 28, 2013 08:23 PM (XnALK)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 08:23 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 08:25 PM (aDwsi)
Back in a bit . . .Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 08:26 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Gingy at October 29, 2013 12:12 AM (N/cFh)
That all depends on from whom you take it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 28, 2013 08:26 PM (tnJb0)
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 08:29 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 28, 2013 08:30 PM (Jk6ep)
Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at October 28, 2013 08:30 PM (yeM7r)
Fa la la la la, la la la la!
Posted by: stutterk at October 29, 2013 12:12 AM (z6eaQ)
I bet that ginger's boobs are tasty
fa la la la la la la la la
Yeah I can do this all night.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 28, 2013 08:32 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: hank at October 28, 2013 08:32 PM (Xa2if)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 08:34 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: hank at October 28, 2013 08:34 PM (eX3h/)
Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at October 28, 2013 08:34 PM (yeM7r)
Posted by: Adriane ... at October 28, 2013 08:35 PM (KoFMU)
Slavery was a 1%ter deal, all the rest of the punishment from the north was why average Joe was willing to fight. Fuck average Joe was a share cropper getting fucked too.
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 08:36 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 28, 2013 08:36 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 08:39 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 28, 2013 08:40 PM (fR6i8)
Posted by: RWC- Human Splatchcock Victim at October 28, 2013 08:40 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: The Drinky Hat at October 28, 2013 08:40 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: KinLa at October 28, 2013 08:42 PM (+11Gt)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 28, 2013 08:42 PM (fR6i8)
But it is bedtime so I'm out.
Posted by: The Hickster at October 28, 2013 08:43 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: RWC- Human Splatchcock Victim at October 28, 2013 08:44 PM (LpbKr)
Good luck with that. President Obama doesn't have a clue most of the time what anybody in the Administration are doing. Why should Sen Feinstein know more than him ?
Posted by: Dean Rusk at October 28, 2013 08:44 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: RWC- Human Splatchcock Victim at October 28, 2013 08:48 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: The Dude at October 28, 2013 08:48 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 28, 2013 08:49 PM (fR6i8)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 28, 2013 08:51 PM (Qi14B)
I guess the subprime loan on the 4th Estate went into default.
Posted by: Edward R Morrow at October 28, 2013 08:52 PM (e8kgV)
With a corncob pipe and a button nose
And two balls made out of steel.
Frosty the snowman is a fairy tale, they say,
He was made of snow but the hookers
Know how he came to life one day.
There must have been some magic in that
Old silk bra they found.
For when they placed it on his head
He began to dance around.
O, Frosty the snowman
Was alive as he could be,
And the gingers say he could laugh
And play just the same as you and me.
Fappity fap, fap
Fappity fap, fap
Look at Frosty go.
Fappity fap, fap
Fappity fap, fap
Over the hills of Tampa cheerleaders.
Posted by: tangonine at October 28, 2013 08:52 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 28, 2013 09:04 PM (fR6i8)
Slavery was the issue that overshadowed all of the others, and also prevented them from being resolved. States fight over shit like fishing rights all the time, it's the nature of a voluntary federation. None of that, none of it, would have led to war without slavery. All of it becomes immaterial in the face of slavery. Take slavery off the table and no matter the taxes, fees, fishing rights, river right of ways or anything else, nothing leads to war. Take all the petty bullshit off the table and leave slavery and the war still happens.
Posted by: Weirddave at October 29, 2013 12:30 AM (Jk6ep)
Actually, I would disagree. The fundamental issue was the impoverishment of the South v. the enrichment of the North. Now, this was tightly entwined with the issue of slavery because so much of the wealth in the South was in slaves or plantations that used slaves to be viable....but you could just as easily say that the war was about coal because the Northern mill towns that were becoming economically dominant were fueled by coal.
And, like crossfooting a ledger, which one feels more like fightin' words: "Every year, I find that I'm poorer and you're richer -- and you're charging me more and giving me less" or "You keep harpin' on me about the slaves workin' my land, when we've been doin' things this way for over a hundred years."
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 09:05 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 09:06 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 09:07 PM (Z9EHQ)
I think NBC got a call from the WH.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 28, 2013 09:08 PM (KL49F)
I think NBC got a call from the WH.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 29, 2013 01:08 AM (KL49F)
We know they're on speed-dial to each other, otherwise how would they call their spouses?
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 09:10 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 09:10 PM (Z9EHQ)
"CNN Anchor: Obama Administration Not Afraid to Threaten Jobs of Journalists Who Actually Do Their Job"
http://tinyurl.com/q7ok9a4
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 28, 2013 09:11 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 09:14 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Adriane ... at October 29, 2013 12:35 AM (KoFMU)
yeah, well you'll never hear me say that line in real life anyway. I would probably change it to "Don, we know you're gay apparent '.
The shit a metal head lyricist comes up with. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 28, 2013 09:16 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 28, 2013 09:17 PM (Qi14B)
it has always been a risk obama would find himself under the wheels of his own bus when his fellow travelers realized it was their cause or obama.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 29, 2013 01:14 AM (Z9EHQ)
Yeah, don't hold your breath just yet.
Granted, he's got like 40 fuck ups under this skinny ass little crackhead pole-smoking belt since being initially elected in 2009, but Obamacare is fuxoring people in the $$, so this one is going to be epic.
Personally, I'd like to have a little chat with him and billary about Benghazi, but the American people, on whole don't give a fuck because only 4 people died. Now, one of those was my friend so I sort of take it personal.
But Ockuf me care? Holy shit on a sheepdog. This one fuXors **everyone**.
Watching the fallout from this is going to be sweet, sweet justice.
Posted by: MooChelle Obmama at October 28, 2013 09:19 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 09:19 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 28, 2013 09:22 PM (RXQ2T)
And whoever wrote that paragraph, and whatever editor green lighted the piece are now "seeking other opportunities"...
...most likely in the burgeoning lawn care industry
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 09:23 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 29, 2013 01:14 AM (Z9EHQ)
Commies/fascists do this to each other all the time; it's one advantage for the other side... just watch them turn on each other.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 28, 2013 09:23 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Adriane ... at October 28, 2013 09:23 PM (KoFMU)
Posted by: logprof at October 28, 2013 09:23 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2013 09:23 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 28, 2013 09:24 PM (Qi14B)
Posted by: gracepmc at October 28, 2013 09:25 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 28, 2013 09:25 PM (XPw8m)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 28, 2013 09:27 PM (Qi14B)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at October 28, 2013 09:27 PM (+MHcc)
Its becoming harder and harder to contain all the scandals and gross incompetence of this administration as they watch their credibility numbers and revenue tanking.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 09:28 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 09:29 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Adriane ... at October 28, 2013 09:29 PM (KoFMU)
Posted by: Bones at October 28, 2013 09:29 PM (XFTOV)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 28, 2013 09:31 PM (Qi14B)
http://tinyurl.com/ltjjywb
A new update at the end says the missing paragraph reappeared a half hour later... ??? LOL. The DC Follies.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 28, 2013 09:33 PM (KL49F)
http://www.ufunk.net/en/videos/never-seen-before-scenes-return-of-the-jedi/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 28, 2013 09:34 PM (LC9b/)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24722550
A review which will probably take all of 5 seconds, since he's briefed on their operations, and is the recipient of their product on a daily freaking basis.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 09:34 PM (4tK7k)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1fHxPY3TJo
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 29, 2013 01:29 AM (Vk2pI)
With a little side dish of holy war.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6knCdiUBz4
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 28, 2013 09:35 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 09:36 PM (DmNpO)
That's pretty significant. A year ago it would have stayed gone.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 09:36 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: Adriane ... at October 28, 2013 09:36 PM (KoFMU)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 28, 2013 09:38 PM (Qi14B)
http://tinyurl.com/ltjjywb
A new update at the end says the missing paragraph reappeared a half hour later... ??? LOL. The DC Follies.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 29, 2013 01:33 AM (KL49F)
HAHAHAHaHaHahahaha! "publishing glitch" -- hey, guys, you're wearing the shiny off of that g-word!!! Pretty soon, people are going to start translating it as "clusterfuck" in that other "glitch-prone" system you're pushin'.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 09:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 09:39 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Adriane ... at October 28, 2013 09:39 PM (KoFMU)
Still wondering if offering up a kidney for a Miyazaki autograph is worth it.
Trailer for Kaguya Hime no Monogatari.
http://youtu.be/T7gkBz9Lwpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 28, 2013 09:40 PM (LC9b/)
That's pretty significant. A year ago it would have stayed gone.
Posted by: Purp at October 29, 2013 01:36 AM (4tK7k)
Preference cascade, anyone?
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 09:40 PM (T1005)
I think GLaDOS and HAL 9000 need to be called in to investigate this matter.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 28, 2013 09:44 PM (LC9b/)
Posted by: BSKB at October 28, 2013 09:46 PM (Yfd43)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 28, 2013 09:47 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Juan McCain, NVA Ace at October 28, 2013 09:48 PM (Qi14B)
Posted by: BSKB at October 29, 2013 01:46 AM (Yfd43)
True AoS fashion might require one to tell her to take a ride on the barbed cock of satan.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 28, 2013 09:48 PM (FMbng)
They've driven away a considerable number of eyeballs over the past 4 years and its affecting their bottom line
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 09:49 PM (4tK7k)
They've driven away a considerable number of eyeballs over the past 4 years and its affecting their bottom line
Posted by: Purp at October 29, 2013 01:49 AM (4tK7k)
The whole preference cascade thing is about maintaining the myth that "all right-thinking people think X, and those that don't are a small, shunned minority." When enough people thinking X discover that others also think X, the self-policing element of the myth breaks down until the actual belief/unbelief becomes evident.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 09:53 PM (T1005)
...which the govt can FORCE THEM TO DO with some relatively insignificant regulatory change outside of Obamacare's implementation.
I know how that game is played.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 09:56 PM (4tK7k)
@354 well, unless obama is going full stalin on the press corps he is about to have a rude awakening as the press grabs this chance to make a break from obama. someone should send obama a #preferencecascade.
it has always been a risk obama would find himself under the wheels of his own bus when his fellow travelers realized it was their cause or Obama.
----------
Maybe, maybe not. Bob Woodward - someone who has lots of liberal and press (but I repeat myself...) credibility due to Watergate - brought this up a little while back. And as a result, the entire press corps turned on him. It might stick this time... but then again it might not.
Posted by: junior at October 28, 2013 09:58 PM (wX+eD)
...which the govt can FORCE THEM TO DO with some relatively insignificant regulatory change outside of Obamacare's implementation.
I know how that game is played.
Posted by: Purp at October 29, 2013 01:56 AM (4tK7k)
Face it, any law > 100 pages is a bad law, just as any law that requires waivers to work is a bad law. There are numerous indicia, and Obamacare flags every one and more -- and stinks on ice, to tie indications back to results.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 10:01 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 28, 2013 10:03 PM (Z9EHQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg3rmVBv9bs#t=128
Posted by: tangonine at October 28, 2013 10:05 PM (x3YFz)
Woodward has already been dismissed as a senile old crank by the left. That happened several months ago when he started speaking out.
His Watergate cred is already gone with the media. They'll have to rehabilitate his image if they want to start pitching him as an honest broker again.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 10:08 PM (4tK7k)
Mexican coyotes demand payment, so do any number of human traffickers.
They busted a shop not too far from me and found 20 young women who were slaves. They had overseers, their wages were confiscated and they went to sleep with zip ties on them. Call it what you want, it is slavery.
Posted by: navybrat at October 28, 2013 10:15 PM (AYGBr)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 28, 2013 10:16 PM (Ky1fr)
Posted by: navybrat at October 29, 2013 02:15 AM (AYGBr)
Sounds pretty much like a textbook example of slavery to me.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 28, 2013 10:19 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Critical Race Theory Graduate Student at October 28, 2013 10:20 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 10:22 PM (qVKcL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 28, 2013 10:23 PM (LC9b/)
they went to sleep with zip ties on them. Call it what you want, it is
slavery.
Posted by: navybrat at October 29, 2013 02:15 AM (AYGBr)
Sounds pretty much like a textbook example of slavery to me.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 29, 2013 02:19 AM (FMbng)
Sounds like half the pimps' stables in an urban (blue) location of your choice.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 10:23 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Urine Bear at October 29, 2013 02:25 AM (Iyg03)
Just take the 's' out of 'ursine'.....
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 10:29 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 28, 2013 10:29 PM (Vk2pI)
Want some poi, fanboi?
Posted by: Adriane ... at October 29, 2013 02:26 AM (KoFMU)
Was talking to BH's sister about home improvement, and especially drywall -- and it reinforced some discussions we'd had.
One of the things that totally sucks about drywall is that patching it takes forever -- and all in travel time. You cut out the panel. You dress the panel so you can attach the new one. You cut out the patch. You attach the patch in the hole.You smush compound, you run tape, you smush more compound -- end of Day 1.
Day 2 -- you sand the edges of the patch, you try to echo the texture (horribly difficult, because (a) common textures evolve over time, and (b) a 1960's texture with 22 coats of paint looks different from a recreated 1960's texture).
Day 3 -- you sand the texture and such into how you want it. Then you sponge off the drywall dust [my favorite step to skip -- looks like your walls have leprosy].
Day 4 -- or Day 3 if you have leprous walls -- paint coat #1
Day 5 -- Paint coat #2.
Thing is, it needs 5 days if you do a 1'x1' patch, or if you do the whole house. And it's tons easier to get a wall to look like the same texture than to get part of a wall to look like the same texture as the rest of a wall.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 10:39 PM (T1005)
Work quick though, it'll set damned fast. Its basically plaster of paris. If you catch it at just the right time, sanding is NOT really necessary, you can smooth it off to paintability with a wetter than damp, but not soaking wet, close pore sponge.
I use the quick set for small repairs.
Aiming a fan at the slow set premix will accelerate drying quite a bit too.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 28, 2013 10:50 PM (4tK7k)
Work quick though, it'll set damned fast. Its basically plaster of paris. If you catch it at just the right time, sanding is NOT really necessary, you can smooth it off to paintability with a wetter than damp, but not soaking wet, close pore sponge.
I use the quick set for small repairs.
Aiming a fan at the slow set premix will accelerate drying quite a bit too.
Posted by: Purp at October 29, 2013 02:50 AM (4tK7k)
But for the average guy, who's got limited tools and doesn't need a stock of "hot mud" and "joint compound".....it's just takes awhile.
And if you're a professional, who has all sorts of tools and different muds and sponges and such.....you still have to drive out there.
AFAIK, there's just no way to scale drywall projects. You can hurry 'em a bit here-and-there, but getting dry-time to the point where it's worth hanging around a project is infeasible [e.g. if you apply something at 10 am that can be further processed at 3 pm, are you going to hang out or come by the next day?].
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 11:00 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Arbalest at October 28, 2013 11:05 PM (FlRtG)
... use the 15/20 minute stuff you have to mix up.
Work quick though, it'll set damned fast.
Roughly 2, maybe 3, cups of the mix is a good amount. It will start to set shortly after you finish applying it. Then mix another batch, and get to work. Also, watch the water temperature. Hot (from the tap) seems greatly preferable to room temperature.
I spent 4 days last December watching some workers install some windows in my unit, and made a point to observe amounts and time.
Posted by: Arbalest at October 29, 2013 03:05 AM (FlRtG)
But did they gain a day? With drying, sanding, and sponging, it's easy to gain some hours....but you still end up doing something else overnight.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 11:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Dude at October 28, 2013 11:15 PM (vJdyz)
I'm sorry, I do that Dave
Posted by: HAL 9000 at October 28, 2013 11:17 PM (bjND7)
Posted by: Arbalest at October 28, 2013 11:22 PM (FlRtG)
"But did they gain a day? "
Tough to say. I let them keep their dust protection, drop cloths, etc., set up overnight. This by itself saved at least 1 hour per day, and allowed a couple of items to be finished by the end of the day, allowing follow-on activities to start first thing the next day instead of at lunch.
Also, I need to clarify:
"It will start to set shortly after you finish applying it."
should read:
"It will start to set shortly after you finish applying all of the mix."
The workers actually used about 1-1/2" of mud in one of the hand-held steel trays, and by the 20 minute mark, any remaining mud was emptied as it was becoming difficult to use.
Posted by: Arbalest at October 29, 2013 03:22 AM (FlRtG)
Drywall is a very much "hurry up and wait" deal. It's really, really, really, really well-suited for subdivisions......and really, really, really, really sucks for patches.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 11:26 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 29, 2013 03:26 AM (T1005)
===
or, you can spend the extra time up front to flat tape it rather than texture. the only texture comes from the paint roller nap.
then you can do butterfly patches a lot better and faster.
Posted by: jc at October 28, 2013 11:33 PM (PlzOe)
So, I ran around the bar and did the Heimlich maneuver, and after about ten vigorous compressions, the medication sailed out of his mouth. It took a good five minutes before he ever got his breath back completely.
It was pretty harrowing.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at October 28, 2013 11:33 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at October 29, 2013 03:33 AM (m0h0I)
====
congrats. glad you were there.
are you going to tell him he owes you a life like little big man?
Posted by: jc at October 28, 2013 11:36 PM (PlzOe)
So, I ran around the bar and did the Heimlich maneuver, and after about ten vigorous compressions, the medication sailed out of his mouth. It took a good five minutes before he ever got his breath back completely.
It was pretty harrowing.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at October 29, 2013 03:33 AM (m0h0I)
Wow! Good job on having the presence-of-mind to be effective!!! Let's hope that karma has you slotted for a "gimme" if anything should happen to you.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 11:37 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Deety at October 29, 2013 12:09 AM (DN2Ge)
@ 432 [cthulhu] -- I hope so. I don't have a lot of negative karma in my past to counteract, but I wouldn't mind building up a little credit.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at October 29, 2013 12:13 AM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Deety at October 29, 2013 12:38 AM (DN2Ge)
Speaking of media shifts, I just accepted that one of my reasons for getting the Sunday papers has really ceased to be. I was a dedicated coupon shopper for many years but it hardly seems worth the effort any more. I cannot remember the last time I handed a coupon to a cashier.
In stead, I have apps on my phone from the major supermarket chains in my region. Specifically the ones with loyalty programs where you scan a key chain fob or card when you check out. When I'm in the store I call up the app and see if there are any coupons or promotions I want to tie to my account.
This was a part of my life for a long time. A ritual. Finding the coupon sections, sorting out the ones of interest, then cutting them out or just putting them in the car where I'd fold edges back and forth until it would tear cleanly to release the coupon to go in my envelope. It was a form of entertainment during stop and go traffic.
But why bother anymore? Nobody doubles coupons around here anymore, so the savings potential has been greatly curtailed. And I can do it all from my phone. I guess if I was a privacy freak I'd refer to use cash and paper coupons at a store with no loyalty card to scan but it isn't the sort of thing I'm concerned about some corporation knowing.
Also, I've tried to change my diet recently and so many of the products that offered coupon discounts were the sort of thing I'm trying to give up. I've even learned to cook a few things.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 29, 2013 01:53 AM (kcfmt)
When my mother dies, which is likely within the next few years, the subscription will be canceled. My sister doesn't read it at all, never did. I cannot justify the ongoing cost if the coupons are helping with the food budget any longer. It's there pretty much just because my mother cannot really accept a world where it isn't the primary information channel.
Certainly, it feels like something is being lost but I fear it is more my youth I'm mourning more than the passing of newspapers.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 29, 2013 02:00 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Lester at October 29, 2013 02:46 AM (qTsuK)
Posted by: CarolT at October 29, 2013 03:59 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Deety at October 29, 2013 04:32 AM (DN2Ge)
Just what she inspires, I leave as an exercise for the alert student.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 29, 2013 08:04 AM (BDU/a)
Hide Comments | Add Comment | Refresh | Top
64 queries taking 0.3102 seconds, 571 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.
Posted by: toby928© at October 28, 2013 06:29 PM (QupBk)