Ace of Spades HQ

January 06, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (1-6-2013)
— Maetenloch

Probably - since it all depends on who's measuring your net worth and which yardstick they're using. The WSJ looks at the various government cutoff levels for determining when people are considered 'rich':

It isn't as easy as you might think to determine who is rich. There are many different yardsticks devised by Uncle Sam, banks, brokerage firms and other institutions. The thresholds-as low as $44,000 for people receiving Social Security benefits-matter because they determine the taxes you owe, the college aid you receive, the investments you have access to and the fees you pay.
Overall, the top 1% of U.S. households have a net worth above $6.8 million or at least $521,000 in income, according to data from the Federal Reserve and the Tax Policy Center in Washington. The cutoffs for the top 5% are $1.9 million in net worth, or $209,000 in income.

Needless to say, these national figures obscure large geographic differences. A prince of income in Danville, Va., is a relative pauper in New York City.
In Danville, the threshold for the top 1% of earners kicked in at $179,000, while it took $588,000 to reach the top 1% in New York City and northern New Jersey

But the American people decided in November that the 'rich' need to ~~be punished~~ pay their fair share.

Welcome to Your New 2013 Paycheck You 'Rich' Americans

Bob Owens: Of Alarms, Militias, and Destiny

What made "Revere's ride" special was that he wasn't just a man. He was many men and women in a deeply interconnected network linked by the a common cause of Liberty.
Fiercely dependent and interdependent upon one another, the Colonials had been through three wars within the the preceding decades, and had devised a system of church bells, dispatch riders, signal fires and musket volleys to warn the countryside of danger. This was perfected after earlier raids during the Powder Alarm.

Paul Revere and the other dispatch riders that April morning were cogs in a communications machine that had 14,000 militiamen marching towards the Concord Road before the sun rose on April 19, 1775.

Six hours. 14,000 men.
I want you to think about that for a moment.

New Hampshire Legislator: We Need to 'Restrict Freedoms' of Conservatives

Here's what NH 3rd District State Representative Democrat Cynthia Chase wrote on a blog:

"In the opinion of this Democrat, Free Staters are the single biggest threat the state is facing today. There is, legally, nothing we can do to prevent them from moving here to take over the state, which is their openly stated goal. In this country you can move anywhere you choose and they have that same right. What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave. One way is to pass measures that will restrict the 'freedoms' that they think they will find here. Another is to shine the bright light of publicity on who they are and why they are coming."

Yes let's shine the light on those who would restrict people's freedom for having the wrong political beliefs. Here is the face of tyranny:

A Great Stagnation in Action Movies

Is the great age of action movies over now?

Still, there has been major progress in action movies, at least if we are willing to accept a particular semantic switch. I much prefer Goldfinger to the newer Bond movies, but I also don't think of it as an action movie. It doesn't have much action, although I don't think people at the time felt that way. By my possibly distorted standards, the Bond movies start being action movies only with Diamonds are Forever.
King Solomon's Mines is a very good movie, under-watched these days, as is Thief of Baghdad. Nonetheless prior to the 1970s I think of the action genre as virtually non-existent. I was stunned when I first (1981) saw the opening scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark, though these days it isn't especially impressive, just well-executed.

One possibility is that each generation thinks it is the first to have had action movies.

To sum up, for all of the contemporary excess, we have been living in a Golden Age of Action Movies. Even a scorned movie such as Lara Croft is pretty awesome on the big screen. And Asian action movies have reached their peaks only in the last twenty years, including early John Woo. Call that the plus side of the globalization equation.
That said, a few impressive 3-D movies aside, the last five years have brought more negatives than positives, a'la "Transformers" and various overinflated, noisy, character-stuffed, and self-important Hollywood monstrosities. We'll get over it, but in reality stagnation is something we might have wished for instead.

Got Survival Manual?

There are a zillion "prepper" books each one with more elaborate schemes and crazier than the one before it. Underground bunkers are only the tip. Selling doomsday (vs wilderness) survivalist advice is big cottage industry. I refuse to pay for this nonsense. The Survival Library is an open online archive of self-sufficiency, self-reliance instructions, PDFs, and videos that appear on other sites for free. It is easy to weed through. Some of the information, like welding instruction, or raising rabbits, or how to start a fire with no matches is useful whether or not you believe that the UN is sending black helicopters to take away your machine gun in the basement. The free downloadable PDF of the 500-page LDS (Mormon) Prep Manual is particularly interesting and for most normal people, all the prep literature you'll ever need.

An Old Lady and Her Kitteh

8 years ago Misao, now 88 years old, found a kitten in an abandoned shed. Since then they've been inseparable.

Porn, protectionism, and the black-market origins of the American condom industry

In March 1873, Congress passed the Act for the Suppression of Trade in, and Circulation of, Obscene Literature and Articles of Immoral Use. The new law came to be known as the Comstock Act, named after anti-vice crusader Anthony Comstock.
... The Comstock Act extended the definition of obscenity to include all devices and information related to contraception or abortion. Imports were prohibited. But as with pornography, the import ban on contraceptives did more to stimulate domestic production than curb supply. The price of a rubber condom in 1887 was still 10 times less than the price of the animal-skin equivalent a few decades earlier.

The main effect of prohibition was to drive the birth-control business underground. Before the Comstock law, condoms were advertised in the New York Times.
...In a July 1930 ruling by a New York appeals court, producers of contraceptives who promised to sell only to licensed doctors and druggists were exempted from federal prosecution. Contraceptives were not removed from U.S. obscenity statutes until 1970, a century after the Comstock Act. Until 1971 it was still illegal for a layperson to import contraceptives.

Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [998 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)' [140.02 posts/day]
2 [631 comments] 'Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.'
3 [455 comments] 'BCochran1981'
4 [377 comments] 'Vic'
5 [375 comments] 'Jane D'oh'
6 [357 comments] 'toby928? for TB'
7 [289 comments] 'Jones in CO'
8 [272 comments] 'DAve'
9 [267 comments] 'MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit </i></u></b>'
10 [258 comments] 'Mr. Moo Moo'

Top 20 sockpuppeteers:
1 [49 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)' [6.87 unique names/day]
2 [47 names] 'Brandon In Baton Rouge'
3 [36 names] 'tgibeachf'
4 [35 names] 'derit'
5 [34 names] 'The Political Hat'
6 [30 names] 'Islamic Rage Boy'
7 [27 names] 'kbdabear'
8 [20 names] 'Jane D'oh'
9 [20 names] 'AnonymousDrivel'
10 [19 names] 'Truck Monkey'

The group. Yeah.

Where it's at - the Twitter

Tonight's post brought to you by decoding social media icons:

Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp LLC. Please e-mail overnight open thread tips to maetenloch at gmail. Otherwise send tips to Ace.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 06:05 PM | Comments (811)
Post contains 1298 words, total size 14 kb.

1 hey this has a fresh smell, unlike me

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (jfSqj)

2 Foist!

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (sdi6R)

3 Mmmmmm, that new thread smell

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (wwsoB)

4 Or not. I like the new thread smell, however.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (sdi6R)

5 5th! I'll read later.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 06:07 PM (4Mv1T)

6 I'm not eating bacon, and I'm unhappy.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 06, 2013 06:07 PM (dMREi)

7 Geez. I'm not even first with an actual comment.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2013 06:07 PM (sdi6R)

8 Fifth!

Posted by: ALH at January 06, 2013 06:07 PM (eqV3Q)

9 Even the embrace of social media cannot destroy bacon.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 06:07 PM (2IW5Q)

10 Durn, I never was good at math. Not fifth. Even better, lucky number 8!

Posted by: ALH at January 06, 2013 06:08 PM (eqV3Q)

11 Top 10 commenters:
1 [998 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)' [140.02 posts/day]

Is that a record? Has anyone ever broken 1,000 in a week?

If they have, what's it like on the other side of the barrier?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:08 PM (wwsoB)

12 I rember back when we played Squaw instead of Doctor. Boy that Redman surely busted my cherri so good. I did keep my moccasins on the entire time though good times, good times

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 06:09 PM (jfSqj)

13 Taken is a great action movie. Not everything has to follow the 80's action movie template.

Say, is Taken 2 any good? I missed it in the theater, because movies conservatives like appear for about one week here in NoCal, so if you blink, you miss them.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 06:10 PM (2IW5Q)

14 I'd say that if New Hampshire is worried @ folks moving to that state, just publicize that pic of Ms. Chase... that'd cure me of ever wanting to move there.

Posted by: Jess1 at January 06, 2013 06:11 PM (lbiWb)

15 Rich? Well, as I often say, you can't put a price ( or value ) on good pussy

watch my new season, starting this week...

Posted by: Sterling Archer at January 06, 2013 06:11 PM (Dll6b)

16 Good evening, Morons

Posted by: fluffy at January 06, 2013 06:11 PM (z9HTb)

17 Is that a picture of Cynthia Chase or did Barney Frank finally have a sex change?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:11 PM (wwsoB)

18 The great thing about social media is that it helps spread knowledge, and of course.... Knowledge. Is. Power.

Posted by: B. at January 06, 2013 06:12 PM (PeX8d)

19 Now that I have assuaged BCochran's commenting complex, I can dial it back.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:12 PM (HXcdb)

20 Cynthia Chase is enough to make me turn gay.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2013 06:12 PM (StDOM)

21 >>>what's it like on the other side of the barrier?

Your eyes get all crossey from trying to read all those little letters on the screen.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (4Mv1T)

22 Actually this might be the renaissance of great action movies, with the two expendables along with the Last Stand, and Bullet to the head about to come out, both of which look awesome.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (obHYs)

23 That NH Legislator is the H_O_T_! If I was not in the US Senate and had to pretend to be straight and married and all, I hit that like a hobo on a free samwich her and I on a tropical beach all by ourselves.....

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (jfSqj)

24 The Free State Project was started by libertarians, with a goal of getting at least 20,000 freedom-minded people to move to New Hampshire. Sort of like creating their own Galt's Gulch.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (sdi6R)

25 I regret that once again I am in the top 10 of frequent commenters. I am working to correct this

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (8sCoq)

26 Finally my multiple mentions of the Foxfire books are noticed. Oh wait they are a set of books 100s of thousands of people heard of so maybe I wasn't noticed.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (qo244)

27 Speaking of turning gay, why oh why do I have Downton Abbey on right now?

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2013 06:14 PM (StDOM)

28 How'd I forget Taken, that was also really good.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 06:14 PM (obHYs)

29 Man that Bob Owens guy is ...thought provoking.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 06:14 PM (MPjT8)

30 New Hampshire put "Live Free or Die" on their license plates. Then it was inundated with leftist Massachusetts tax refugees. It's still on the license plate, but they don't mean it.

Vermont used to consist of conservative-leaning dairy farmers. Then it was inundated with leftist Massachusetts types who thought it was a theme part with rolling hills. Now it is like the Soviet Union for independent business, with, for the time being, really great gun laws. Not hard to guess which part won't last.

Is leftism a form of entropy?

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 06:14 PM (2IW5Q)

31 I regret that once again I am in the top 10 of frequent commenters. I am working to correct this Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 10:13 PM (8sCoq) Wait till you get your tax bill for being in the top 10

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 06, 2013 06:15 PM (jE38p)

32 As for Cynthia Chase, she proves the axiom;

"Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:15 PM (wwsoB)

33 11 Top 10 commenters: 1 [998 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)' [140.02 posts/day] Is that a record? Has anyone ever broken 1,000 in a week? If they have, what's it like on the other side of the barrier? Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 10:08 PM (wwsoB) You've obviously never met "Sven". He's broken 2,000. 3rd. Dammit. AtC is going to mock me ceaselessly. She set the over/under at 4th.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:15 PM (GEICT)

34 I imported several comDOMS ( the Brits accent the second syllable ) before 1970. But, statute of limitations and all that.......

safe, I am. Untouchable

Posted by: DOA in Scrambletown, FLA at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (Dll6b)

35 Is leftism a form of entropy? is that meant to be rhetorical? because duhhhhh

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (J6kXj)

36 That's a woman? Holy God...

Posted by: Palandine[/i] at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (g7D8V)

37 National Debt Meets Temporal Mechanics Nevada state Treasurer has already beclowned herself after insisting that the elimination of the National Debt in 1835 caused the British to be successful in the War of 1812, with the problem thereafter being solved by a man killed in 1804. While her logic appeared to be based on an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, it turns out that that claim was inaccurate. I immediately set to apologize for this when I leaned the truth of what she bases her backwards flowing time temporal mechanics: Back to the Future, Part II More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=1121

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (Vk2pI)

It's 8pm here and I want pancakes. And bacon, now that I've read the ONT.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (o1kXv)

39 29 Man that Bob Owens guy is ...thought provoking. Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 10:14 PM (MPjT I never heard of him until the last month or so, but...yeah.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (sdi6R)

40 How can you tell Barney Frank had a sex change in that picture?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (HXcdb)

41 Hagel to defense Huge gun bill Huge immigration bill More Taxes No spending cuts Executive orders And you thought the last 4 years were bad Oh and insurance premiums going thru the roof

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (jE38p)

42 I can't find Unskewedpolls.com any more. I am writing an article on the GOP Anti-Reality Bubble and need some of their "analysis". Do any of you preppers know where they got off to?

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (jssax)

43 Americans deserve everything they get,good and hard.The price of not paying attention.

Posted by: steevy at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (9XBK2)

44 Cynthia Chase looks like my grandmother. Is she German? Scary woman.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (DoZD+)

45 Rivers of recovery.
Rich.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (1V6Pv)

46 Speaking of turning gay, why oh why do I have Downton Abbey on right now?

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2013 10:14 PM (StDOM)

asked and answered...

Posted by: Bill in Billings at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (Dll6b)

47 >Is that a record? Has anyone ever broken 1,000 in a week?

If they have, what's it like on the other side of the barrier?

On the other side of the barrier, the known laws of physics break down. Comments, posts, and content converge to form a singularity. Basically the entire universe becomes a holographic projection of a YouTube video, depicting a guy getting hit in the nuts with a tennis ball, playing on an infinite loop

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (8sCoq)

48 29 Man that Bob Owens guy is ...thought provoking.

I most surely hope he is wrong, as does he himself, but, like I always say:

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (4Mv1T)

49 >> Here is the face of tyranny: Damn, that is one ugly dude.

Posted by: Andy at January 06, 2013 06:18 PM (OZPoa)

50 Sometimes paying taxes to this effen outfit is like sitting on a plane by the window and having a bad case of C=diff during turbulence..

Posted by: Clemenza at January 06, 2013 06:18 PM (x59Gv)

51 H O T !

Posted by: Cynthia Chase and Elizabeth Warren's bikini lines co-mingling in the tropical sun at January 06, 2013 06:18 PM (jfSqj)

52 I'm watching some movie where Sly Stallone blows things up and talks to Sharon Stone on the phone a lot

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 06:19 PM (8sCoq)

53 Did you see at the top of the side-bar about how US and European bio-fuel demands is making Guatemalans starve. State solutions usual result, mass starvation and death.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:19 PM (HXcdb)

54 Rumor has it that if you pass 1,000 comments in a week, you create a wormhole in the space/time fabric

Others say that you disintegrate, still others say you assume a gaseous form

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:19 PM (wwsoB)

55 Say, is Taken 2 any good? I missed it in the theater, because movies conservatives like appear for about one week here in NoCal, so if you blink, you miss them. Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 10:10 PM (2IW5Q) It's pretty bad, frankly. Especially compared to the first film, which is a sublime piece of un-PC action pie. Still, lots of shooty shooty, runny runny, punchy punchy, so still worth a gander off of Bittorrent (Fuck You, Hollywood). 'sup jackwagons.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 06:19 PM (MBqvE)

56 47 On the other side of the barrier, the known laws of physics break down. Comments, posts, and content converge to form a singularity.

Oh, good. Does that mean we can get Reagan back? He could scarcely imagine how much he would be needed at this point.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 06:19 PM (2IW5Q)

57 You knew you had a socialist agenda , so they had to take care of that social tax first...

Posted by: Clemenza at January 06, 2013 06:19 PM (x59Gv)

58 I mean like hot like the surphase of the sun hot caliente'

Posted by: Cynthia Chase and Elizabeth Warren's bikini lines co-mingling in the tropical sun at January 06, 2013 06:20 PM (jfSqj)

59 Soul-less
Non-believers
Baby-killing
Gay "marrying"
"Kill me and my children lest I defend myself"
Take the fruits of my labor. I didn't build it.
No. You can perfect Human Nature through the tax code. I wuz rong.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 06:20 PM (1V6Pv)

60 Downton Abbey is pretty freaking soap-opera-y, but I wouldn't take away a moron's man card for watching it. As a chick, I love it, though...

Posted by: Palandine[/i] at January 06, 2013 06:20 PM (g7D8V)

61 Say what you will about Cynthia Chase, I find her dedication admirable. She set her mind to making certain people---the majority of whom actually have functioning eyeballs---too grossed out to live in her state and by golly if she hasn't sacrificed her health, hair and the ability to not frighten small children for that goal.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 06:20 PM (b+8h9)

NH 3rd District State Representative Democrat Cynthia Chase

Wait wait wait, thats a female???

Posted by: puddleglum at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (LNNKa)

63 Generally speaking, most movies of any genre have sucked for at least the last decade. There have been a few that we're good but there have been no masterpieces.

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (zOP5o)

64 How many Foxfires are there? Do I need all of them?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (MPjT8)

65 CC has a bad case of Herpes 29..

Posted by: Clemenza at January 06, 2013 06:22 PM (x59Gv)

66 3rd. Dammit. AtC is going to mock me ceaselessly. She set the over/under at 4th.>>

OSP (the novelist) couldn't have written a believable plot line where ATC didn't mock you ceaselessly in any case so just deal with it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 06:22 PM (qo244)

67 Rod Steiger as a Puerto Rican drug lord- this flick just buried the needle, cheese-wise

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 06:22 PM (8sCoq)

68 Cynthia Chase? I'd hit it

Posted by: Michael Moore at January 06, 2013 06:22 PM (wwsoB)

69 New Hampshire can now be known for more than just its ever present "turn ahead" road signs, fireworks, and Al Kaprielian.

Posted by: This Day in Ignominy at January 06, 2013 06:22 PM (I88Jc)

70 Posted by: Tobacco Road you might just get a CCW, It will keep you away from any NICS checks In ID they don't go through NICS with a valid CCW who knows though with Capt. Choom in charge

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 06, 2013 06:23 PM (jfSqj)

71 60 Downton Abbey is pretty freaking soap-opera-y, but I wouldn't take away a moron's man card for watching it. As a chick, I love it, though... Posted by: Palandine at January 06, 2013 10:20 PM (g7D8V) --On a lark, we rented the first season from Redbox. Completely missed the second season, but my wife got roped in anyway. I think it's a knock-off of Upstairs, Downstairs but still entertaining, and you don;t need cable to watch it, either.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2013 06:23 PM (StDOM)

72 I think Die Hard was the perfect action movie. Pretty much every good action movie that followed cribbed from it.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 06:23 PM (xSegX)

73 The years, nor genetics, were kind to Cynthia Chase.

Posted by: fluffy at January 06, 2013 06:23 PM (z9HTb)

74 I'm watching some movie where Sly Stallone blows things up and talks to Sharon Stone on the phone a lot Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 10:19 PM (8sCoq) I like that movie, but they should remake it and instead of going after the Mafia, they should go after CAIR

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 06, 2013 06:23 PM (jE38p)

75 55 It's pretty bad, frankly. Especially compared to the first film, which is a sublime piece of un-PC action pie.

Thanks. I can happily zone out to a dumb action movie, but not one that purports to be a worthy sequel to that amazingly well-done movie. I'll skip it.

I'm disappointed, though. I'd hoped Luc Besson, who did The Fifth Element and Taken, would have insisted on better. If only there were more out there with the integrity of the Coen Brothers. I don't like everything they do, but I have never for a moment doubted their integrity as filmmakers.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 06:23 PM (2IW5Q)

76 OSP (the novelist) couldn't have written a believable plot line where ATC didn't mock you ceaselessly in any case so just deal with it. Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 10:22 PM (qo244) Your words, they hurt. Mostly because they're true.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (GEICT)

77 I'm saving New Hampshire for me and my 26 cats.

Posted by: Cynthia "Pussy Chaser" Chase at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (dmEoV)

78 Is leftism a form of entropy? Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 10:14 PM (2IW5Q) Would you like to sign a contract?

Posted by: /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (Vk2pI)

79 Well the Coen siblings since one had a sex change.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (HXcdb)

80 Cynthia Chase is a woman? Seriously? I thought the judge in Pink Floyd's The Wall came to life.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (w3+gB)

81 38 It's 8pm here and I want pancakes. And bacon, now that I've read the ONT.

-----------

Y'know, Denny's motto is "Always Open".

Unless it's after 10PM on Christmas Eve in St. George, Utah and you've just driven six hours and are awfully damn hungry.

Not that I'm bitter or anything....

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (1c58W)

82 Still, there has been major progress in action movies, at least if we are willing to accept a particular semantic switch. I much prefer Goldfinger to the newer Bond movies, but I also don't think of it as an action movie. It doesn't have much action, although I don't think people at the time felt that way. By my possibly distorted standards, the Bond movies start being action movies only with Diamonds are Forever.

King Solomon's Mines is a very good movie, under-watched these days, as is Thief of Baghdad. Nonetheless prior to the 1970s I think of the action genre as virtually non-existent. I was stunned when I first (1981) saw the opening scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark, though these days it isn't especially impressive, just well-executed.

Where to start?

1. Yes, Goldfinger was an action movie as was Dr. No. If you're going around and fighting people while things blow up, it's an action movie. BTW, I'm pretty sure Sergio Leone's movies counted as action movies.

2. How is Raiders of the Lost Ark not impressive? What makes an action movie particularly good, one that you'll go back and watch again and again, is that it combines good writing with fighting people and blowing stuff up. Which brings me to point 3...

3. Die Hard was and remains the greatest action movie of all time. Forget stagnation over five years. Try 20. After a few years pass, a bunch of action movies blur together and you forget about them. It's not fair to judge stagnation by a period of a few years because if you look back, there's only a handful over any given period that you'd go back and consistently watch.

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 06:25 PM (zYzxT)

83 'Voting [for me] is the best revenge.' What an imbecile. Later, all. God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 06, 2013 06:25 PM (mb+Yr)

84 ooh a thong

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 06:25 PM (8sCoq)

Top 10 commenters:
1 [998 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)' [140.02 posts/day]

Is that a record? Has anyone ever broken 1,000 in a week?

If they have, what's it like on the other side of the barrier?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 10:08 PM (wwsoB)

Event Horizon. It isn't pretty. Even AtC's raptors shy away from it. Spider Clowns flee. Pointy elbows are no longer relevant.

Its...

The second term of the Indonesian President.

We are about to live it.

Despair.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at January 06, 2013 06:25 PM (ial2b)

86 @ 54 You forgot the one when you become a god.

Posted by: Jet Li from the One at January 06, 2013 06:25 PM (obHYs)

87 @35 Pretty much. 'cuz only life organizes matter and reverses entropy.
Teach this.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 06:25 PM (1V6Pv)

88 Oh, good. Does that mean we can get Reagan back? He could scarcely imagine how much he would be needed at this point.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 10:19 PM

It may take multiple attempts. Last time all we got back from the 80's was a Plymouth Reliant and a Poison cassette

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:25 PM (wwsoB)

89 They said I was too gay for Vermont.....

Posted by: Cynthia at January 06, 2013 06:26 PM (dmEoV)

90 11 Didn't sven hit 2700?

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 06:26 PM (XDC0v)

91 Rod Steiger's PR accent is achieved by sounding his x's as esses

it's a fucken tour de force performance

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 06:26 PM (8sCoq)

92 interesting factoid, taken 2 is based on the same script as hangover 2, it is simply a different interpretation.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 06:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

93 A few interesting anagrams for Cynthia Chase...

ACE CAN HIT SHY
A CATCHY HE SIN A CATCHY SHINEA YEAST CHINCH A NASTY CHIC HECACHE ANY SHITSAC HYENA ITCH

Posted by: Palm Beach Pooter Hound at January 06, 2013 06:26 PM (ufLRj)

94 Cynthia Chase, she's hot.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at January 06, 2013 06:26 PM (VMcEw)

95 When Sven exceeded 2000 we got back a Tiffany cassette and a Ford Pinto.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:26 PM (HXcdb)

96 79 Well the Coen siblings since one had a sex change. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 10:24 PM (HXcdb) --You mean the Warchovskis.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (StDOM)

97 Totally dreading going back to work tomorrow. Been off since the 21st. 5am is going to suuuuuuck. And bossman (my Dad) has already told me I have a shitton of stuff to catch up on when I get back.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (GEICT)

98 I don't remember which was first, but both Die Hard and Lethal Weapon set the new standard for action movies.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (GZitp)

99 New Hampshire can now be known for more than just its ever present "turn ahead" road signs, fireworks, and Al Kaprielian.

GOOD evening everybody!

Posted by: fluffy at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (z9HTb)

100 Well the Coen siblings since one had a sex change.

Dude, you're thinking of the Wachowski brothers. Don't knock the Coens.

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (zYzxT)

101

Y'know, Denny's motto is "Always Open".

Nah, I'd just make them in my kitchen. Even better, and I don't have to put on pants.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (o1kXv)

102 logprof, so that is what happened when a commentor exceeded 1000 comments. Wow my bad.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:28 PM (HXcdb)

103 @ 79 That was the Wachowski Siblings

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 06:28 PM (obHYs)

104 Die Hard was and remains the greatest action movie of all time.

GMTA.

I watched it very recently, it still holds up even if there are some anachronisms in it.

The lack of cell phones makes it work. You cannot tell that story in the era of cell phones.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 06:28 PM (xSegX)

105 How many Foxfires are there? Do I need all of them?

The whole series is $216 bucks (the first 3 can be found for free download). Do you need all no but if things really went to shit making a Banjo might be nice.

http://www.foxfire.org/thefoxfirebooks.aspx

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (qo244)

106 What probably catapulted me to the top of the comments was all the Wonder Festival links from Japan.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (HXcdb)

107 90 11 Didn't sven hit 2700? Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 10:26 PM (XDC0v) Somebody figured it up and he was commenting, on average, every 8 seconds, 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week. Or something very similar.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (GEICT)

108 72 I think Die Hard was the perfect action movie. Pretty much every good action movie that followed cribbed from it.

This. Well, almost. You'd have to throw the first two Terminators into the mix. And you'd also have to admit that Die Hard, great as it was, had its ridiculous elements:

Painful dialog:

Cop who likes Twinkies: "Bag it"
Clerk: "Big Time"

Painfully Obvious Plot Elements:

(same) Cop who Cannot Draw Because Of Trauma is confronted with the archetype of all murderous villians, covered in blood, issuing a massive testosterone roar, holding automatic weapon:

Lo! He draws his weapon and shoots the world's most obvious monster! It is a psychological miracle!

And yet, it was great. But in those late-night moments, you have to ask yourself, would it have been so esteemed, if Alan Rickman had been somehow unavailable?

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (2IW5Q)

109 Rumor has it that if you pass 1,000 comments in a week, you create a wormhole in the space/time fabric Others say that you disintegrate, still others say you assume a gaseous form Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 10:19 PM (wwsoB) Well... http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Threshold_(episode)

Posted by: Captain Janeway at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (Vk2pI)

110 Sorry Anna Puma, didn't mean to repeat things already posted AD beat me to it, my bad.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 06:30 PM (obHYs)

111 The lack of cell phones makes it work. You cannot tell that story in the era of cell phones. Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 10:28 PM (xSegX) --Mostly true of any action movie made before (or set before) 2000 or so.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2013 06:30 PM (StDOM)

112 If anyone is going out to cross the event horizon and lands in the 80's again, could you bring back Susanna Hoffs?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:30 PM (wwsoB)

113 "Do these glasses REALLY make me look like John Candy?"

Posted by: Cynthia "Pussy Chaser" Chase at January 06, 2013 06:30 PM (dmEoV)

114 Ed its all good. If I can endure watching the RIffTrax take on Birdemic...this place is a cake walk.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:31 PM (HXcdb)

115 an anagram for Sharon Stone is 'Not on her ass'

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 06:31 PM (8sCoq)

116 Keeping track of sex changes is a delicate business.

Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 06:31 PM (VMcEw)

117 Cynthia Chase? Sure it's not Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro,VT?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2013 06:31 PM (29+x5)

118 Even better, and I don't have to put on pants. Posted by: Colorado Alex That could get kinda painful if you're going to be frying bacon to go with the pancakes.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 06:31 PM (YtMpu)

119 g'evenin' 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 06, 2013 06:31 PM (JMmQ9)

120 So last year Germany's "green energy" producers raked in 20 billion Euros.

The actual market cost of the energy they provided? Less than 3 billion Euros. 17 fucking billion Euros, almost six times the actual cost, was pure subsidies.

I wonder how much longer they'll be able to keep that shit up.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 06, 2013 06:32 PM (kZIWZ)

121 Owned Bitches. And its only going to get worse.

Sure the lay abouts and welfare queens which there are a plenty in the democrat party, dont give a shit cause they dont pay taxes, but...all those union babies and school teachers and middle income obama voters....SUCK IT YOU FUCKING MORONS!

THAT FEELING IN YOUR ASS IS JUST THE TIP!!! THERE IS 4 MORE YEARS OF SHAFT TO GO BEFORE YOUR BUTT BUDDY OBAMA IS BALLS DEEP!

Fucking morons...Hope you Got some pocket Change for Lunch this week...fucking jerks.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 06, 2013 06:32 PM (+OTLF)

122 Who's rich? Whitey.

Posted by: Truman North at January 06, 2013 06:32 PM (I2LwF)

123 112 If anyone is going out to cross the event horizon and lands in the 80's again, could you bring back Susanna Hoffs? Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 10:30 PM (wwsoB) I'd like Tawny Kitaen. Only...you know...not fucking nuts.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:32 PM (GEICT)

124 Cynthia Chase is a "woman"? Do you mean actual biological woman, or do you mean trans-gendered "woman" who still has his/her/its dangly bits?

Posted by: Captain Janeway at January 06, 2013 06:32 PM (Vk2pI)

125 http://youtu.be/Ts4igCSxZXw

For kbdabear

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:32 PM (HXcdb)

126 @ 114 Birdemic (shudders), and thanks again for the heads up on the Riff Trax, ordered myself tickets for my dad and I to see Plan 9, gonna be awesome.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 06:33 PM (obHYs)

127 I'm thirsty for some wine, where's that damn sommelier with my cabernet?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:33 PM (wwsoB)

128 Oh good. The yelling.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:33 PM (GEICT)

129 you might just get a CCW, It will keep you away from any NICS checks In ID they don't go through NICS with a valid CCW who knows though with Capt. Choom in charge Posted by: Jake in ID at January 06, 2013 10:23 PM (jfSqj) I believe that Nevada is similar.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2013 06:34 PM (Vk2pI)

130 @120 Until the run out of suckers, er, I mean tax payers. Which looking at their demographic trajectory looks to be by next month.

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 06:34 PM (zOP5o)

131 127 I'm thirsty for some wine, where's that damn sommelier with my cabernet?

You'll drink Yellowtail and like it.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 06:34 PM (2IW5Q)

132 It's hard to find realistic villains in action movies with realistic intentions. The mob just isn't scary anymore. Most now just use a greedy developer or businessmen, as if a company would hire mercenaries to hunt you down. Any good real life villains are not PC enough for the movies. So the studios end up doing period pieces where villains are already set or future/fantasy like the matrix where it doesn't matter if you kill a whole bunch of people because it's all in a computer anyways.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 06, 2013 06:35 PM (NzBQO)

133 Who's rich?

Whitey.>>

If you mean rich as comfortable in my own skin then yes totally.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 06:35 PM (qo244)

134 Having PDFs of all that survival information is all well and good, until the power goes out.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at January 06, 2013 06:36 PM (79AXR)

135 Running this homeless rabbit rescue ain't no fucking picnic.

Posted by: Cynthia "Pussy Chaser" Chase at January 06, 2013 06:36 PM (dmEoV)

136 Didn't know sis ended up in New Hampshire, and in politics no less

Posted by: Tom AKA Glatinous blob at the End of I have no mouth and I must Scream at January 06, 2013 06:36 PM (obHYs)

137 Who's rich? Whitey.>> What does that make black albinos?

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 06:37 PM (obHYs)

138 The free state projects mascot is the porcupine. They just modified the Gadsden flag and put a porcupine on it.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 06, 2013 06:38 PM (NzBQO)

139 What does that make black albinos? Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 10:37 PM (obHYs) Uncle Tom's, of course?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:38 PM (GEICT)

140 Canobie Lake Park's amusement rides ain't got nothing on me!

Posted by: Coin-op kiddie ride in front of a store at January 06, 2013 06:39 PM (I88Jc)

141 lol, can I order something besides Yellow Tail? Perhaps some German eiswein?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:39 PM (HXcdb)

142 132 It's hard to find realistic villains in action movies with realistic intentions. The mob just isn't scary anymore. Most now just use a greedy developer or businessmen, as if a company would hire mercenaries to hunt you down. Any good real life villains are not PC enough for the movies. So the studios end up doing period pieces where villains are already set or future/fantasy like the matrix where it doesn't matter if you kill a whole bunch of people because it's all in a computer anyways.

Taken solved this problem. So can any other movie, if they're willing to make actual murderous criminals the villains. They're not exactly hard to find. It's not as though the whole membership of Hamas, for example, has been exhausted.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 06:40 PM (2IW5Q)

143 If you of you Morons/Moronettes are prepping, hook a fellow 'ron up and order some dehydrated stuff from me...link in sig.

Also, if you want to start networking, check out the American Preppers Network.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 06, 2013 06:40 PM (9kLGM)

144 Any good way of removing the shrimp smell from my Subaru?

Posted by: Cynthia "How did I get this rash on my scrotum?" Chase.. at January 06, 2013 06:40 PM (dmEoV)

145 Sommelier, come hither! Garcon, will this Shiraz make me more or less pretentious?

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 06:41 PM (w3+gB)

146 "The good news is that, according to the Obama adminstration, the rich will pay for everything. That bad news is that, according to the Obama administration, you're rich" -PJ O'Rourke

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 06, 2013 06:41 PM (NzBQO)

147 This. Well, almost. You'd have to throw the first two Terminators into the mix.

I think they were good as movies, but not as action films. Die hard was nothing but an action film. And once the action starts, there is no breath, no let up on the action. The plot is simple: ordinary guy trying to survive.

And you'd also have to admit that Die Hard, great as it was, had its ridiculous elements:

It ain't Shakespeare, but the Chekhov's guns are put in place and then fired.

(same) Cop who Cannot Draw Because Of Trauma is confronted with the archetype of all murderous villians, covered in blood, issuing a massive testosterone roar, holding automatic weapon:

Lo! He draws his weapon and shoots the world's most obvious monster! It is a psychological miracle!

Well, I think the key was that he did it, while everybody else had froze. But Ace pointed out this story arc for Reginald VelJohnson, it's a little silly, but they wanted that false finale.

And yet, it was great. But in those late-night moments, you have to ask yourself, would it have been so esteemed, if Alan Rickman had been somehow unavailable?

I think so, actually. Rickman is brilliant at that attitude that he's the smartest person in the world and he's just tired of all you idiots, but the only part of his performance that I think couldn't have been achieved by a number of other actors (imagine Dennis Hopper) was his delivery of "I am an exceptional thief!"

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 06:41 PM (xSegX)

148 142 lol, can I order something besides Yellow Tail? Perhaps some German eiswein?

Nein, wir haben kein Eiswein. Wuerden Sie etwas Spaetburgunder haben? Wir believe that Germans can grow Pinot Noir too!

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 06:42 PM (2IW5Q)

149 A lull? Ok, who wants to see Michelle Jenneke in the rain?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:44 PM (GEICT)

150 Been watching Todd and the Book of Pure Evil on Netflix. pretty good.

Posted by: yerro at January 06, 2013 06:44 PM (Zsb4e)

151 lol, can I order something besides Yellow Tail? Perhaps some German eiswein?>>

We don't have any 1-2 how about some Liebfraumilch?

Posted by: Sommelier at January 06, 2013 06:45 PM (qo244)

152 So you don't have any Eiswein and trying to peddle some Pinot Noir on me? Nein.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:45 PM (HXcdb)

153 Die Hard was a holiday movie, the same way Dracula was a rom/dram.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 06, 2013 06:45 PM (NzBQO)

154 We can laugh at Mr Chase, but that's the kind of totalitarian you get when lefties run from their old states and infest new ones with their old preferences.

Take note, states with invading Californians

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:46 PM (wwsoB)

155 Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 10:29 PM (GEICT) I see you the "the list" Again. Doesn't Mrs BC get lonely?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 06:46 PM (On5TW)

156 The lack of cell phones makes it work. You cannot tell that story in the era of cell phones.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 10:28 PM (xSegX)

--Mostly true of any action movie made before (or set before) 2000 or so.

Actually, it's a major problem with any kind of drama. Look at how movies and TV shows try to get around this so that the hero can be incommunicado at his lowest point.

You have to admire 24 for just embracing cell phones to the point that it glossed over the problem of cell reception in Los Angeles (also, traffic).

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 06:46 PM (xSegX)

157 You know what's uglier than Cynthia Chase? Her soul.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 06, 2013 06:47 PM (8FbHM)

158 Kelly stays at Oregon...good move.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 06:47 PM (MPjT8)

159 It may take multiple attempts. Last time all we got back from the 80's was a Plymouth Reliant and a Poison cassette Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 10:25 PM (wwsoB) YOU STOLE MY CAR!!!!!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 06, 2013 06:47 PM (5J54Q)

160 I would settle for some 2 buck chuck right about now! ** looks fore lornly at his empty scotch decanter! **sniffle

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 06:47 PM (zOP5o)

161 Too far right for Vermont...

Posted by: Jerrold Nadlers Identical Twin at January 06, 2013 06:48 PM (dmEoV)

162 You know what's uglier than Cynthia Chase?

Her soul.

Do these people even realize that they're Bond villains?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (xSegX)

163

Yes let's shine the light on those who would restrict people's freedom for having the wrong political beliefs. Here is the face of tyranny:

It's also the face of a very ugly lesbian

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (cf0YP)

164 ** looks fore lornly at his empty scotch decanter! >>

Oh look a 1%ter.

Posted by: OWSer at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (qo244)

165 156 Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 10:29 PM (GEICT) --------------- I see you the "the list" Again. Doesn't Mrs BC get lonely? Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 10:46 PM (On5TW) *glares balefully* She's on the couch next to me. Shopping on her iPad with Christmas money. And I took care of all duties early while the kiddos were napping.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (GEICT)

166 plus every action movie has to have one scene where Good Guy looks up something on the internet

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (8sCoq)

167 Good evening. I haven't read that bit from Marginal Revolution about action movies but I think he's looking at things the wrong way judging from the excerpt posted. It's not that action cinema is stagnant or anything, it's just that action cinema doesn't require a certain breed of actor. Gone are the days of Schwarzenegger and Stallone (even if those two are still personally popular, but you know what I mean) and here are the days where the action movie star can be much more of an everyday looking guy. More Ryan Goslings and fewer Jason Stathams. And if Wesley Snipes hadn't landed his dumb ass in jail for tax evasion...but I digress. Further, because of the practicality and cheapness of CGI we get fewer practical FX. Fewer pretty 'splosions and more transparently digital fire and particle FX. Takes out the WOW factor. Plus CGI is prone to being abused. It's cheap, easy and any asshole can craft generic apocalyptic scenes of destruction. Before that you needed, ya know, imagination. As an aside, this is where Michael Bay excels. He can do both very well. Transformers 2 might be bloated but he blows real shit up real good and that's why I still give that movie thumbs up. Robert Rodriguez, too, has a great sense for great action cinema. James Cameron, I think, lucked out a couple of times. And Avatar was a piece of shit no matter what angle you look at it. Anywho... As for Asian action...fuck it. Very little worth a shit. Fucking wire fu ruins everything it's in. Give me a few more years and I might come around but holy hell that shit is gay. And I disagree that every generation thinks theirs is the first one with true action cinema, it's just that my (our) generation thinks action cinema was done right during our childhoods. But think, beyond the standard classics, how many can you remember and remember enjoying? There was A LOT of garbage in there and little of it is worth the effort revisiting. I think the action genre is just in a period of rediscovery. No one knows what can make for a really good action film these days. Schwarzennegger and Stallone will keep making movies for that reliable old timey action film, Statham will be along for the ride but we'll also get a lot of stuff that's hit and (mostly) miss. The shitty video game adaptations, the cheapo generic CGI suckfests, the chop sockey wire-fu Asian garbage...eventually someone will come along with something smart and creative that balances all the best elements of the old action films with some truly creative stuff that will just WOW audiences again.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 06:51 PM (LUnTP)

168 Made the top ten sock puppeter list again this week. I'm so ashamed.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 06, 2013 06:51 PM (jucos)

169 Woman? That's a man baby!

Posted by: SAZMD at January 06, 2013 06:51 PM (Mv+3/)

170 later all calling it all in early

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 06, 2013 06:51 PM (jfSqj)

171 And I took care of all duties early while the kiddos were napping. A post-coital shopping spree. Hmmmm, you Americans are a curious people.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 06:52 PM (On5TW)

172 "Another is to shine the bright light of publicity on who they are and why they are coming."

Yeah okay, I guarantee half the people in your state would actually be okay with this. If I woke up tomorrow and found out that a bunch of rightwing mid westerners moved to California I would welcome them with open arms along with millions of other Californians.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 06, 2013 06:52 PM (NzBQO)

173 Harry Reid confirmed that Sandy has replaced Katrina as the hurricane that leftists fap to

http://tinyurl.com/bdae5bj

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Harry Reid told the Senate floor on Friday that Hurricane Katrina was Â“nothing in comparisonÂ” to Hurricane Sandy.

Â“The people of New Orleans in that area, they were hurt,Â” said Reid, the Democratic majority leader. Â“But nothing in comparison to what happened to the people in New England.Â”

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:53 PM (wwsoB)

174

Hollywood sucks, they just re-do movies year after year, that new sean penn gangster movie is the untouchables.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 06:53 PM (adaoe)

175 New Hampshire? Wasn't that some kind of a speed bump horses back in the colonial days?

Posted by: Kittery, Maine at January 06, 2013 06:53 PM (I88Jc)

176 *Ramble ramble ramble*

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 06:53 PM (LUnTP)

177 148 I think so, actually. Rickman is brilliant at that attitude that he's the smartest person in the world and he's just tired of all you idiots, but the only part of his performance that I think couldn't have been achieved by a number of other actors (imagine Dennis Hopper) was his delivery of "I am an exceptional thief!"

A bold and interesting casting proposal, for sure. And yet, if it had been Dennis Hopper in the room with Takagi, trying to get the password, there would have been no suspense about the "will he shoot him" question. Even if he had gotten the password, Hopper would have shot him.

Which brings up another weak point, Takagi going all "I can't give you that password, what, you're going to blackmail our executives..." Haven't worked for a company yet that put blackmail material on their servers.

I do love the movie, but I can't claim it is unrelentingly intelligent. What it is is a combination of great action and excellent wit and decent drama, and that combination is so rare that it deserves to be celebrated. Example: the way the semi-silly "fists with your toes" thing turned out to be the gateway to the protagonist's vulnerability to broken glass.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (2IW5Q)

178 And just so you know the new Deftones album, Koi No Yokan, kicks ass! And I've never considered myself a fan of theirs.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (LUnTP)

179 @163 No they don't. They think we are evil. And here is the problem we just laugh it off but these people are serious! They want nothing more than to turn America into a socialist Marxist country. And quite frankly, they are succeeding spectacularly!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (zOP5o)

180 I find myself curiously uncurious as to who will win this Bowl game.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (MPjT8)

181 A post-coital shopping spree. Hmmmm, you Americans are a curious people. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 10:52 PM (On5TW) Well, it is her money. And I know for a fact that purchases have been made at both Frederick's and Victoria's Secret. So I keep my big mouth shut.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (GEICT)

182 kbdabear. Not a shocker. Keep the Kartina and Sandy people mad at each while Reid and cohorts loot the US in their name.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (HXcdb)

183 I got back to Charleston tonight after my vacation and am preparing for returning back to work tomorrow by defrosting some bacon for breakfast.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (dzERw)

184 The Free State Project got started around 4-5 years ago as I recall. Walter Williams pushed the idea for a couple of years in some of his columns. I used to check their website with some frequency, but as of a couple years ago they had stalled out at around 8-9 thousand out of their 20k goal.

I would never go as I dislike the Northeast and cold weather both. But it a cool idea overall; an early attempt at going Galt on a large scale.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 06:55 PM (ccXZP)

185 But nothing in comparison to what happened to the people in New England.Â” Too bad for Harry Reid that New York - where all the damage was - isn't part of New England.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 06:55 PM (On5TW)

186 Made the top ten sock puppeter list again this week. I'm so ashamed.

Does the top sock puppeteer get a Shari Lewis award?

Wow now I'm hungry for Lamb Chops.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 06:55 PM (qo244)

187 WASHINGTON -- Sen. Harry Reid told the Senate floor on Friday that Hurricane Katrina was Â“nothing in comparisonÂ” to Hurricane Sandy.

Â“The people of New Orleans in that area, they were hurt,Â” said Reid, the Democratic majority leader. Â“But nothing in comparison to what happened to the people in New England.Â”

Katrina killed 1,833
sandy, 125

other than that, yeah sure

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 06:55 PM (8sCoq)

188 Well, it is her money. And I know for a fact that purchases have been made at both Frederick's and Victoria's Secret. I suggest you never introduce her to the La Perla web site then. Mrs. SB had a unmentionables jag in the Spring that about cleaned me out.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 06:57 PM (On5TW)

189 Fuck you Harry

Posted by: Shep Smith at January 06, 2013 06:58 PM (dmEoV)

190 169 Made the top ten sock puppeter list again this week. I'm so ashamed. Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 06, 2013 10:51 PM

You should be.... and you are under arrest

Posted by: Michelle Ugenti at January 06, 2013 06:59 PM (wwsoB)

191 Well, it is her money. And I know for a fact that purchases have been made at both Frederick's and Victoria's Secret. >>

Finally a post where "pictures or it didn't happen" makes sense.

And yeah I know I will get no joy you selfish bastard.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 06:59 PM (qo244)

192 The Free State Project got started around 4-5 years ago as I recall. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 10:55 PM (ccXZP I first heard about it around 2001. Followed a link from a website while I was, uh...pirating some music. But only some! *Ashamed*

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 06:59 PM (LUnTP)

193 Go fuck yourself, Harry.

Posted by: John Boehner at January 06, 2013 06:59 PM (ccXZP)

194 Finally a post where "pictures or it didn't happen" makes sense. And yeah I know I will get no joy you selfish bastard. Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 10:59 PM (qo244) Hahahahahaha. You know what though? The wife dug up some of her old Raven's cheerleading pics. Hang on a few....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 07:00 PM (GEICT)

195 189 I suggest you never introduce her to the La Perla web site then. Mrs. SB had a unmentionables jag in the Spring that about cleaned me out.

Never heard of that sote before. Thanks for the tip. I see many things there that I would like to drape my wife in. If yours spent a pile there, I am more envious than sympathetic.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 07:01 PM (2IW5Q)

196 Soooooo, I see I should have taken the over.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:01 PM (Gk3SS)

197 Oh yeah La Perla is da bomb of a site.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:01 PM (HXcdb)

198 163 Do these people even realize that they're Bond villains? Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 10:49 PM (xSegX) Back in 2009, I mentioned George Soros to an Obama voter. She said, "Who's he?" I just shrugged and replied, "A James Bond villain."

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2013 07:01 PM (sdi6R)

199 My brocaded carp have never recovered from Sandy, savages.

Posted by: Jerry Rivers at January 06, 2013 07:01 PM (w3+gB)

200 Cynthia Chase, a walking antidote for Viagra.....

Posted by: Sam Adams at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (oykcl)

201 Ok, here we go. Really crappy quality pic. It was part of a media guide or something. But any who...here's Mrs. 1981..... http://tinyurl.com/apbs2cr

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (GEICT)

202 Fuck you Boehner

Posted by: Andrea Mitchells Dry Vagina at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (dmEoV)

203 Wait, I just looked at the prices at that La Perla site. Holy crap!

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (2IW5Q)

204 Sure azz, Myt.
Comes in the 3L box, w/hose and bite valve, + shoulder strap.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (1V6Pv)

205 It's not just the over reliance of CGI in action films, it's the shitty, lazy, directing and editing. Too many go with a shot-on-iphone look. It's fucking shit. They don't stage and frame sequences anymore so you can see what the fuck is going on and where the fuck anyone is.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (yBF/9)

206 193 Robert,

I should have been more explicit -- around 4-5 years ago people started moving to NH in numbers (and sure, even that timeframe might be off as I can't judge how many years pass any more worth a shit).

The idea was certainly around much longer than that.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (ccXZP)

207

Can the evil wingnuts who run this blog please post a picture of Cynthia Chase in a cheerleader outfit? That would be teh hot.

Face it, cons, we progressives have the sexiest women.

Posted by: H. Hymenhopper at January 06, 2013 07:03 PM (BStAJ)

208 197 Soooooo, I see I should have taken the over. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 11:01 PM (Gk3SS)

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 07:03 PM (GEICT)

209 Yep Alexthechick, should have. Ace could make a killing in online betting who will make the Top 10 I think.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:03 PM (HXcdb)

210 Well, let's take a quick moronic survey, of how many Free Stater libertarians you think are just easy-druggies and/or LuapNor devotees. I know the movement started out looking for true patriots, sturdy shopkeepers, entrepreneurs and so on.

Now, after the rise and fall of Liberal-tarianism, and the may I say somewhat non-libertarian brand of conservatism that jerked a noble knee against it, wouldn't an awful lot of people here get generally pissed if they thought an onslaught of libertarians was in the offing? A lot of them have long hair and beards, you know. Arts degrees. The younger ones put these rings in their ears. And they make insufferable sommeliers.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 07:03 PM (qaVK+)

211

Here is the face of tyranny:

King George without it's wig?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 07:04 PM (b1VIZ)

212 THIS is what's wrong with Hollywood:

Sly Stallone and Sharon Stone in the shower, and they show me SLY's ass

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:04 PM (8sCoq)

213 Since David Gregory can brave wave about his sex toy during a broadcast, I want you, Sen. Reid, to Kathy Griffen me on-air. Why? To make a statement about...oh, just do it!

Posted by: Shep Smith's subconscious at January 06, 2013 07:04 PM (I88Jc)

214 Do these people even realize that they're Bond villains? Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 10:49 PM (xSegX) One of their core beliefs is that *we* are Bond Villains, and it is a "preemptive" belief in the sense that it precedes and cannot be contradicted by evidence. That's how someone can openly say "we need to restrict freedom to keep people who want freedom out of our power playground" or any of the million other insane things they say and *not* see themselves as anything but *absolutely justified*. It is a species of mental illness that could be called some kind of combination of Denial and Projection and Paranoia and Dunning-Kruger. And that's an incomplete description. And "our side" is so worried about being impolite or being seen as reprobates or primitive that we infight constantly. Pretty much I only observe any news anymore out of ingrained habit, it's all Mad, Mad, Mad.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 07:04 PM (bxiXv)

215 La Perla, that's a lot of money for something that's eventually coming off

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 06, 2013 07:05 PM (NzBQO)

216 If yours spent a pile there, I am more envious than sympathetic. Her shopping spree severely delayed the purchase of a SCAR-L and several other manly accoutrements. ::::: mutter mutter mutter :::::

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 07:05 PM (On5TW)

217 here's Mrs. 1981..... >>

The pictures of my deer on flicker just aren't quite the same.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/89370022@N07/8139154732/

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:05 PM (qo244)

218 The "Foxfire" series is one of the great "prepper" manuals. When things settle down after the initial hecticness of the TEOTWAWKI, you might want to know how to make musical instruments from gourds and stuff.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at January 06, 2013 07:06 PM (2obW7)

219 30 New Hampshire put "Live Free or Die" ontheirlicense plates.Then it was inundated with leftist Massachusetts tax refugees. Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 10:14 PM ............. I left NH because it has become blue. Its not just the transplants coming in from MA, NY etc. Trying to tell everyone how great higher taxes and more regulations will be.....its also natural born citizens being brainwashed by lying MSM and Dem leadership.....(promising free shit). The state has voted blue in 5 of the last 6 elections. Their only hope is that these freedom loving people do take the state back. There is a good core of conservatism there but it is out numbered and/or losing the battle of hearts and minds.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at January 06, 2013 07:06 PM (0JB89)

220 202 BC1981,

Oh my. It's a good thing her elbows are covered up or I could get in some trouble with a comment.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 07:06 PM (ccXZP)

221 /gasps for air HALLELUJIAH! Holy $#!+, where's the Tylenol... /does ONT happy dance

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Amazing Ampersands at January 06, 2013 07:06 PM (mbxHg)

222 Did someone forget to rescue Brother Cavil from the previous thread?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:07 PM (HXcdb)

223 Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 10:53 PM (wwsoB)

Translation: They still vote R down there, so no more money from us!

Posted by: Country Singer at January 06, 2013 07:07 PM (9kLGM)

224 La Perla, that's a lot of money for something that's eventually coming off She told me I was getting off cheap, that Agent Provocateur was actually more expensive. It was then that I understood how Moochelle could drop 20 grand there in an afternoon.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 07:07 PM (On5TW)

225 Is that Salisbury Cathedral sitting in for the scene of the wedding in Downton Abbey?

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2013 07:07 PM (StDOM)

226

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at January 06, 2013 11:06 PM (2obW7)

You skip over the chapter on moonshinin'?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 07:08 PM (b1VIZ)

227

"Needless to say, these national figures obscure large geographic differences. A prince of income in Danville, Va., is a relative pauper in New York City.

In Danville, the threshold for the top 1% of earners kicked in at $179,000, while it took $588,000 to reach the top 1% in New York City and northern New Jersey"

15 years ago, a financial planner that I was in the Lion's Club with asked me to go to Danville and Martinsville to meet with some of his clients about their real estate. Oh my god, these people were some of the widows of the men who owned all the mills down there, and those houses they lived in would make a Kennedy blush. It was impossible to come up with prices for some of these homes because there was nothing else like them. I finally had to start trying to price them based on what the property was worth, plus what the homes would be worth once you stripped out the interior fountains, drapes, statues, and anything else. One of the houses sold for 300K, and the new owners were able to sell all that stuff for 200K. They bought a freaking mansion for 100K.

Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 07:08 PM (Zd/NW)

228 Back in 2009, I mentioned George Soros to an Obama voter. She said, "Who's he?" I just shrugged and replied, "A James Bond villain." Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2013 11:01 PM (sdi6R) In the real world, he's a Nazi collaborator who made his billions manipulating currency and laundering drug money, he's a convicted felon and has tried to reduce several countries to poverty to make money, he manipulates political systems and buys off politicians for his own ends and to make money. On liberal blogs, he's a "philanthropist and activist entrepreneur." Not. On. The. Same. Planet.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 07:08 PM (bxiXv)

229 Which brings up another weak point, Takagi going all "I can't give you that password, what, you're going to blackmail our executives..." Haven't worked for a company yet that put blackmail material on their servers.

Before the shooting scene, they talked about a project environmentalists were pissed about if I remember correctly. I took that to mean there was some dirt there.

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 07:09 PM (zYzxT)

230 Too many go with a shot-on-iphone look. It's fucking shit. They don't stage and frame sequences anymore so you can see what the fuck is going on and where the fuck anyone is. Posted by: otho at January 06, 2013 11:02 PM (yBF/9) The directors want cinema verite when they need more cinema explosion-ay. It's why I avoid the Bourne films.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:09 PM (LUnTP)

231 Good Lord, that La Perla site is pricey. I'll shop for my wimmins at Wicked Temptations.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 06, 2013 07:10 PM (9kLGM)

232 From what I understand, Cynthia Chase recently moved to New Hampshire from Rhode Island

Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 07:10 PM (dmEoV)

233 211 comatus,

I consider myself a libertarian and have been consistent in that for 40 years. But darn it, I've missed out on the piercings and tattoos and my degree is in a science field.

It takes all kinds, I suppose.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 07:10 PM (ccXZP)

234 Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 11:02 PM (ccXZP) Oh, yeah. Can't remember when New Hampshire was chosen as the Free State site but five years ago sounds about right.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:11 PM (LUnTP)

235 Alright, I'm out. 5am is really freaking early.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 07:11 PM (GEICT)

236 I would settle for some 2 buck chuck right about now! I'm drinking 2 buck chuck shiraz right now.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 07:12 PM (MBqvE)

237 Mmmmmmmm, shiraz!

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:12 PM (LUnTP)

238
I hope the concept and possibility of the Free Staters gives Cynthia Chase constant heartburn.

There is a person who truly does deserve someone spitting right in her face.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2013 07:12 PM (SAMxH)

239

Bourne?

He's in the building now!!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 07:12 PM (Md8Uo)

240 Probably a good idea for me to also flee BCochran. Night all. Don't quaff too much Yellow Tail or Shiraz or whatever and trash the place.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:13 PM (HXcdb)

241 Merovign, Ambassador James Hormel (who may yet cost Hagel his DoD seat all these years later despite kissing and making up) is also described in campaign literature as a philanthropist and activist entrepreneur. Never as the Spam heir.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 07:13 PM (qaVK+)

242 Too bad it's a work night or I'd be drinking. Fuck it, it's not like I can't do both. Might be the only way I can deal with my boss anymore with a minimum blood alcohol level of .12%.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:13 PM (LUnTP)

243 Bourne? He's in the building now!! Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 11:12 PM (Md8Uo) Eh, it's just Matt Damon. *Goes back to rubbing one out*

Posted by: Sooooper Important Gub'mint Person at January 06, 2013 07:15 PM (LUnTP)

244 WRT Free Staters, firstly it's asking a lot of people who want to live free to move to a state run a way they don't like. Conservatives evidently like challenges unless they're political - see the "Red Flight" from places like California, once red states, now increasingly blue as more and more people leave. Yes, it sucks to have to fight. On the other hand, I *thought* that surrendering sucked too, maybe not so much. Secondly, New Hampster was probably the wrong place. That's easy to say with hindsight, but I argued against it as it was happening. I don't even remember all the choices, but there were better ones. Nevada is actually more purple than you think, and so is Oregon. Nevada's population is not that high. Anyway, it appears to have failed. Thirdly, gigantic opportunity missed there as the TEA Party was winding up, but then, we wouldn't be where we are anyway if we weren't so prone to factionalizing and infighting... so there you are.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 07:15 PM (bxiXv)

245 Hey, I learned a new term from the survival link: doomsteading. Staying put as opposed to bugging out.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:15 PM (QupBk)

246 Ran out of Ethanol so it looks like I'll be pulling over to the curb too. Nite all.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:15 PM (qo244)

247 Are Gushie & I the only ones shopping at trashy lingerie?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 07:16 PM (YtMpu)

248

The Heir to Spam!

That should be on someone's gravestone. I inherited Spam and became a major figure in politics.

Is there anything that Spam can't do?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 07:16 PM (Md8Uo)

249

Â“The people of New Orleans in that area, they were hurt,Â” said Reid, the Democratic majority leader. Â“But nothing in comparison to what happened to the people in New England , and they weren't black.

FIFY, Harry.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 07:16 PM (DXlwL)

250 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 11:15 PM (bxiXv) You'd think they'd have chosen some place...warmer.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:16 PM (LUnTP)

251 233 From what I understand, Cynthia Chase recently moved to New Hampshire from Rhode Island
Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 11:10 PM

Moves from a bankrupt state to ruin another, then decides that people who don't think like her are unwelcome in "her" state.

Typical, actually

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 07:16 PM (wwsoB)

252 Oh, yeah. Can't remember when New Hampshire was chosen as the Free State site but five years ago sounds about right. Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 11:11 PM (LUnTP) 2001. But we were talking about what state to use before that, maybe late 90s/2000.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 07:17 PM (bxiXv)

253 Example: the way the semi-silly "fists with your toes" thing turned out to be the gateway to the protagonist's vulnerability to broken glass.

Yeah, you could tell what they wanted to do but they set that up well. Why? Because that vulnerability is exploited much later in the movie. In fact, it looks like an asset for a while. He seems more mobile.

Who can forget the zig-zag table? Or putting the villain on a chain and hook and throwing him across the ceiling? (Why would an office building have such a thing?)

My absolute favorite is the double close-up on the Christmas tape.

So obvious but if you haven't seen the movie before, you don't know why it's important.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 07:17 PM (xSegX)

254

Yeah, Matt Damon is a pretty wooden little blond fucker.

He is the weakest of the clones.

Brad Pitt > Leonardo DeCaprio > Matt Damon!

Anyone that would have Ben Aflak! as his wingman is pretty weak sauce.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 07:18 PM (Md8Uo)

255 Casablanca, now there was an action movie!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 06, 2013 07:19 PM (9ChIO)

256 You'd think they'd have chosen some place...warmer. Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 11:16 PM (LUnTP) It was all about demographics. When it comes to politics, sometimes Libertarians get a little too math geek for their own good. Basically made some weak assumptions and went with it because it was "logical."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 07:19 PM (bxiXv)

257 Speaking of which I need to give my summoning powers a flex and SUMMON BEAN!!!!!!!!!!! http://tinyurl.com/aljvyp8 Where did he get off to, anyway? Boat sank and trapped on a desserted island populated only by nympho amazons?

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:19 PM (LUnTP)

258 @220 John Stark

Conservatives are losing people's hearts and minds due to picking the wrong fights. The obsession over abortion and other social issues turns people off. Once they are turned off, they don't listen to another stances. People like Akins, Bachman and Santorum have become the face of Conservatism.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:19 PM (42ieH)

259 The other thing with Die Hard is that at the time, Willis wasn't an action movie actor. He was the goofy cool slacker in Armani suits on TV in Moonlighting. Kicking ass and taking names in a manner that would have Genghis Khan saying "whoa".......totally out of left field.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 07:19 PM (MBqvE)

260 234 211 comatus, I consider myself a libertarian and have been consistent in that for 40 years. But darn it, I've missed out on the piercings and tattoos and my degree is in a science field. It takes all kinds, I suppose. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 11:10 PM (ccXZP) That label has been beaten into a meaningless lump.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (jts1f)

261 Basically made some weak assumptions and went with it because it was "logical." Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 11:19 PM (bxiXv) I just assumed they really liked the state slogan.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (LUnTP)

262 Congrats Ms. Puma. I won, I won!

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (LRFds)

263 The directors want cinema verite when they need more cinema explosion-ay.

It's why I avoid the Bourne films.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 11:09 PM

Yeah. The "cinema verite" thing is bullshit. caught the latest Bourne thing on TV. It cut back heavily on the shittycam. It was better than the previous ones. No Matt Damon is a big plus. The action sequences were much better, as it was at least possible to follow. Trouble was the story. Not enough. It was a case of "He's doing what, now?" "There's a virus, or something?" "What are the pills for, again?" "Why are they doing that?" You'd get some half exposition, then off on a chase thing. Just slow down, give me the story and then cut loose.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2013 07:21 PM (yBF/9)

264 The other thing with Die Hard is that at the time, Willis wasn't an action movie actor. He was the goofy cool slacker in Armani suits on TV in Moonlighting. Kicking ass and taking names in a manner that would have Genghis Khan saying "whoa".......totally out of left field. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 11:19 PM (MBqvE) Ooooooo, LOVE Die Hard! New one is gonna suck, but still a great series.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:21 PM (LUnTP)

265 Sure azz, Myt, "Screams 'stainless steel', jammy, unctuous, abso-effin'-lutely delicious, the ABV is just right for society, and the shoulder strap/bite valve make it ideal for family outings and Aussie Rules football."

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 07:21 PM (1V6Pv)

266

They don't stage and frame sequences anymore so you can see what the fuck is going on and where the fuck anyone is.

I hate that 0.2 second cut between scenes. Is that what they're teaching in film school now? Then execute the instructors there. Also, light the fucking scene so we have some idea what's going on. We watched - or attempted to watch - 2012 (piece of shit, btw), but it might as well have been about a black cat in coal bin. And written by a class of eighth grade retards.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 07:21 PM (DXlwL)

267 @ 234 GnuBreed
More Republicans are Libertarian that many realize. It's just we are disorganized and outgunned politically by the Socon-Necon Axis.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:21 PM (42ieH)

268 Who no, Gnu Breed, as a matter of fact there are some kinds we can bloody well do without. I was a county chairman for the LP in 1973. Harry Browne ("How You Can Profit from The Coming Cholera Epidemic") pretty much did it for me, but I was open to the many-sided tent until the invention of the Liberaltarian during the first Obama campaign. Of course those weren't libertarians at all -- but a lot of people here thought they might as well have been, just saying.

There is now a lot of L-hate among conservatives. Great strategy play by the progressives, but also a product of Paulite foreign policy (or, you might say, the lack of it). I honestly don't think most people right now who think of themselves as conservatives would countenance a libertarian majority in their state government. Those who would already identify as L's. Just the drug legalization alone would put them off enough to oppose it. Let's see.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 07:21 PM (qaVK+)

269 "(Why would an office building have such a thing?)"

It's likely related to servicing the building's Tuned Mass Damper, I assume.

Posted by: IM Peeing at January 06, 2013 07:22 PM (I88Jc)

270 11 KBDaBear, What barrier?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2013 07:22 PM (LRFds)

271 @261 Grumpy the Younger

Libertarianism is what Pre-Falwell/Bush Conservatism was about. It's about individualism and Freedom.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:23 PM (42ieH)

272 Hey, does anyone have more info on this latest huge giveaway program? (zh link, but they quote a WSJ article behind the paywall)

http://tinyurl.com/azezffp

This is a big fucking deal, as Brainless Joey B. would say. It's now official US policy that student loans can be forgiven??!? When the hell did this law pass?

Or is it, as I suspect, another Executive Order from our King.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 07:23 PM (ccXZP)

273 Conservatives are losing people's hearts and minds due to picking the wrong fights. The obsession over abortion and other social issues turns people off. Once they are turned off, they don't listen to another stances. People like Akins, Bachman and Santorum have become the face of Conservatism.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:19 PM (42ieH)

Conservatives dont care what you think, hows that!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 07:23 PM (adaoe)

274 - 2012 (piece of shit, btw), Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 11:21 PM (DXlwL) How *do* you fuck up something so easy? Was still better than Avatar, though.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:24 PM (LUnTP)

275 It's just we are disorganized and outgunned politically by the Socon-Necon Axis. In your case, it's mostly because you're an asshole. People don't listen to assholes.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:24 PM (QupBk)

276 OK, I'm out Tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 06, 2013 07:24 PM (JMmQ9)

277 @ 269 comatus
Most "Conservatives" who hate Libertarians are really Authoritarian Socons who want Big Government to create their utopia. Libertarians are seen as a rival ideology on the Right, so they try to marginalize them.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:25 PM (42ieH)

278 I rest my case.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:25 PM (QupBk)

279 There is now a lot of L-hate among conservatives.

Paulestinian temper tantrums (at the convention, Paul refusing to endorse Romney) aren't exactly from the Dale Carnegie school.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (xSegX)

280 Was still better than Avatar, though.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 11:24 PM (LUnTP)

So was my last bowel movement.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (GsoHv)

281 25 Jones in CO, There is recovery, the first step is breathing.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (LRFds)

282 I'm so concerned my ears are bleeding.

Posted by: Reality Checkmate at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (pAAUB)

283 I rest my case. Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at January 06, 2013 11:25 PM (QupBk) LOL, Laup Nor?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (l86i3)

284 @ 274 lou's a girl

That's fine by me. Keep losing elections and one day you realize that your positions are not popular. You guys will get it one day.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (42ieH)

285 In your case, it's mostly because you're an asshole. People don't listen to assholes.

Thank. You.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (xSegX)

286 Speaking of movies, Amazon has on as its Bluray deal of the week a seven movie Tim Burton collection inluding... Beetlejuice Charlie and the Chocolate Factory Batman Batman Returns Mars Attacks! Pee-Wee's Big Adventure The Corpse Bride For only $29 bucks. http://tinyurl.com/aje8b9c This is also the cheapest way you'll likely find his Batman movies on sale since you can either buy the Batman Anthology for way more or individually for some ridiculous amount.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (LUnTP)

287 242 Merovign, Ambassador James Hormel (who may yet cost Hagel his DoD seat all these years later despite kissing and making up) is also described in campaign literature as a philanthropist and activist entrepreneur. Never as the Spam heir.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 11:13 PM (qaVK+)

You would think someone who packed a lot of meat would be something the Dems would brag about.

Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (Zd/NW)

288 Oh God....This boring cocksucker is back...

Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (dmEoV)

289 That's fine by me. Keep losing elections and one day you realize that your positions are not popular. You guys will get it one day.

Mmmm. That vinegar will bring all the flies to the yard.

Yummy yummy vinegar.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (xSegX)

290

Was still better than Avatar, though.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 11:24 PM (LUnTP)

I had an inkling of that, and gave it a wide berth. You have to wonder at what point, if any, those involved with such films realize that they've booked passage on a cultural Titanic.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (DXlwL)

291 That's fine by me. Keep losing elections and one day you realize that your positions are not popular. You guys will get it one day.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:26 PM (42ieH)

Oh No, and my little dog too?

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (adaoe)

292 276 toby928Â© for TB

I am not a member of the echo chamber, so that makes me an asshole. I have my own ideas and original thoughts.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (42ieH)

293 271 11 KBDaBear,

What barrier? Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2013 11:22 PM

It's a kind of block where the laws of physics keep it from being breached, or the laws of physics no longer apply if it is

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (wwsoB)

294 And, there you have it.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (qaVK+)

295 This is also the cheapest way you'll likely find his Batman movies on sale since you can either buy the Batman Anthology for way more

Oh, my God, why?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (xSegX)

296

You would think someone who packed a lot of meat would be something the Dems would brag about.

Or at least run for Congress from MA.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (DXlwL)

297 248 Are Gushie & I the only ones shopping at trashy lingerie?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 11:16 PM (YtMpu)

Well I'm certainly not shopping there. However I would certainly be willing to offer my opinion on any purchases you make.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (GULKT)

298 So was my last bowel movement. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 11:26 PM (GsoHv) I dropped three last night and they were all winners. After I finished each one I loudly proclaimed, "Top that James Cameron!"

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (LUnTP)

299 I'm also a libertarian of sorts, but if you expect that tossing out two of the 3 legs of the Republican Party will result in electoral wins you have been chooming a little too much my "friend".

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (FsUAO)

300 Are Gushie I the only ones shopping at trashy lingerie? Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 11:16 PM (YtMpu) I like to look at the pictures on the web site.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:29 PM (l86i3)

301 >I am not a member of the echo chamber, so that makes me an asshole. I have my own ideas and original thoughts.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:27 PM (42ieH)

well bless your heart

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:29 PM (8sCoq)

302 33 BC1981, "Sven" once broke 3000 IIRC?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2013 07:29 PM (LRFds)

303 I am not a member of the echo chamber, so that makes me an asshole. I have my own ideas and original thoughts.

Nummy nummy vinegar.

You're right, Hans, nobody appreciates your brilliance. You're an artist unappreciated in his own time.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (xSegX)

304 I am not a member of the echo chamber, so that makes me an asshole. I have my own ideas and original thoughts.
Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:27 PM

Cut and pasted from Huffpo and Daily Kos, got it

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (wwsoB)

305 Oh, my God, why? Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 11:28 PM (xSegX) Well the Tim Burton set is an Amazon exclusive, I believe, and because people are dumb enough to pay more for some movies.

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (LUnTP)

306 Howdy!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (kaalw)

307 Whoops, TIME! Gotta get ready for woik. G'night, ONT!

Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (LUnTP)

308 Neither Barry Goldwater nor Reagan would win today's GOP nomination. The fact that Mitt Romney who is a Moderate Republican had to pretend to be fire-breathing yahoo to win the nomination shows the sad state of today's Republican Party.

I know I am the bad guy around here, but how many electoral losses will it take for you guys to realize your ideology is not popular?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (42ieH)

309 272 @261 Grumpy the Younger Libertarianism is what Pre-Falwell/Bush Conservatism was about. It's about individualism and Freedom. Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:23 PM (42ieH) Within that context, I consider myself libertarian but, right or wrong, lots of people use the term to mean something else. I would also be ok with calling myself a liberal in the classical sense but the left has so distorted the term as to invert its meaning. I am currently using the handle 'rational anarchist' as defined in the seminal libertarian novel, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, by the Dean of Science Fiction, Robert A. Heinlein.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at January 06, 2013 07:31 PM (jts1f)

310 G'night, ONT! Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2013 11:30 PM (LUnTP) G-night Robert.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:31 PM (l86i3)

311 @259. --Reality Check ............... I don't totally disagree....but much of this impression is a narrative pushed by big media and not the real body politic of American conservatism. Also...even though I do not 100% like Santorum or Akin..I am willing to listen and debate them...not just vilify them when they say something wrong or disagreeable. Id like to stay and chat...but I like Bcochran81 have to get up early to gowork to help pay for everyone else's free shit.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at January 06, 2013 07:31 PM (0JB89)

312 The problem I have with the big L's is the hubris. They're like the proggers, just from a different perspective. They want, desperately, to believe that there are rules that can be intuited that will make society run like a well oiled machine. I think this flatters them self image as brilliant thinkers, though some are, in fact, brilliant thinkers, most are not. I'm of the good enough is good enough school of thought. The polity has the right to make bad decisions. Banning booze or whatever. That's what self government is all about. If you don't like the way things are, move, or become more persuasive. The most important thing we could do would be to limit, not the size of government per se, but to limit it's geography. In a word, bring back real federalism, regionalism and localism. Well, I guess that's three words but you know what I mean.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:31 PM (QupBk)

313 While I personally consider myself very libertarian -- minimal government, maximal personal freedom -- I have to say that actual self-identified Libertarians make me tired. It always, ALWAYS comes down to weed with them. Whether they have long hair or crewcuts, whether they have personal arsenals or don't like guns, gold bugs or Bitcoin crackpots, it always comes back to weed in the end. There is more to life than weed. I'm sick of "libertarians" who will happily abandon all the freedoms that really matter -- the freedoms to say, think, work, and spend your money as you choose -- in exchange for the "freedom" to stay stoned. Aldous Huxley fucking nailed it.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 06, 2013 07:31 PM (7tSG7)

314 Premature ejaculation's my name, and looking down the nose is my game!

Posted by: Pull my String, fer reals at January 06, 2013 07:32 PM (I88Jc)

315 304 I am not a member of the echo chamber, so that makes me an asshole. I have my own ideas and original thoughts.

Nummy nummy vinegar.

You're right, Hans, nobody appreciates your brilliance. You're an artist unappreciated in his own time.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2013 11:30 PM (xSegX)

Hes the david letterman of the ont

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 07:32 PM (adaoe)

316

I usta read Reason Magazine in the 90's, and thought real hard about declaring as a Libertarian, but finally Reason persuaded me that I was not a Libertarian.

For all the moral and decent people that claim to be Libertarian, and want freedom, liberty, limited government and free markets, and are willing to take full responsibility for their actions, there are a bunch more who want license to do anything they damn well please, do drugs out the ying-yang and just be libertines.

Many Libertarians claim Ayn Rand as one of their inspirations, but before she died, she totally denounced the whole Libertarian movement as immoral, because they refused to set personal limits on themselves and adhere to any moral code, such as her philosophy of Objectivism, which expected a certain amount of self-limiting restraint and responsibility.

I'm not against the Libertarians, per se, but the movement, such as it is, is riddled with a lot of foolish people. So that's what sets it apart from the Republicans and Democrats. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...........

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 07:32 PM (Md8Uo)

317 'rational anarchist Hmm, I like that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:32 PM (l86i3)

318 Shouldn't that Taint-sniffer be flagged by the trollbuster?

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 07:32 PM (GULKT)

319 @305 kbdabear

If I don't care for Socons becasue they are Big Government Leftists, I am not going to like Far Left Stalinist like Kos.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:32 PM (42ieH)

320 303 33 BC1981,

"Sven" once broke 3000 IIRC? Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2013 11:29 PM

I tip my hat to you, sir

Posted by: Chuck Yeager at January 06, 2013 07:33 PM (wwsoB)

321
I hate that 0.2 second cut between scenes. Is that what they're teaching in film school now? Then execute the instructors there. Also, light the fucking scene so we have some idea what's going on.We watched - or attempted to watch - 2012 (piece of shit, btw), but it might as well have been about a black cat in coal bin. And written by a class of eighth grade retards.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 11:21 PM (DXlwL)

In the age of HDTV, why in the hell do all those tv and movie studios make all of their shows so freaking dark? You can never tell what is going on because there is no light whatsoever, or that they feel that the scene needs the "blue filter" to make it look more gritty. It's gotten to the point that I really only want to watch sports on television now, or nature documentaries.

Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 07:34 PM (Zd/NW)

322 @ 317 Reader C.J. Burch

Why do you care how people live their lives? What right gives you to impose your worldview on others? Why not take a live and let live viewpoint?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:34 PM (42ieH)

323 Hey, I was #2! Oh, wait. That doesn't sound right.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:34 PM (l86i3)

324 I know I am the bad guy around here, but how many electoral losses will it take for you guys to realize your ideology is not popular?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:30 PM (42ieH)

Don't flatter yourself. You're more like the retarded kid that everyone has to be nice to.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2013 07:35 PM (pAAUB)

325 You cannot function without me.

Posted by: TruCon Brand Suppositories at January 06, 2013 07:35 PM (I88Jc)

326 I know I am the bad guy around here, but how many electoral losses will it take for you guys to realize your ideology is not popular?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:30 PM (42ieH)

I like things that are great

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:35 PM (8sCoq)

327 Libertarians are:
Liberals whose lives have been impinged by Reality w/out the barrier of drugs.
Conservatives who want to sin greatly, but who still feel the need of an ideology.
People stuck nearly 3 centuries in the past, whose ideas have not developed to the very basic stage of recognizing that "Liberty does not equal license."
Faggots.
Junkies.
Fools.
Anti-Semites.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 07:35 PM (1V6Pv)

328 Don't flatter yourself. You're more like the retarded kid that everyone has to be nice to. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2013 11:35 PM (pAAUB) More like the reatred kid that screws up sacking my groceries and breaking my eggs. Hey wait, Is that you corky?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:36 PM (l86i3)

329 @ 312 John Stark Dark

Neither you nor I should pay for anyone's else.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:36 PM (42ieH)

330 Why do you care how people live their lives? What right gives you to impose your worldview on others? Why not take a live and let live viewpoint?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:34 PM (42ieH)

UMM hello, did you not just tell people they should give up their beliefs on abortion and gay marriage, really, REally??

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 07:36 PM (adaoe)

331 Hi, all! Yep, I'm rich, but it's got nothing to do with money, I have a great family and friends who love me!

To those on the game #2 football thread, partiers just left, after helping me clean up the mess, and the police didn't pay us a visit today, so I'd call my football playoff party a great success!

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 07:36 PM (u96Iy)

332 I like the Prepper threads but at my somewhat advanced years I have come to embrace the fact that you cannot prep for every single contingency. You can only prep for about 25% of the worst outcome at any given time. For one thing, every time you get on an airplane you are about as unprepped as the day you were born, and as well when you get off and thereafter at your destination.

But, I do what I can around the house. I bought a bunch of food for the end of the world about 5 years ago. I am now eating most of it. Some of it I will donate to the local food bank. The brown rice may be good for another few months. The back up electrical devices I bought are now next to worthless. Even the solar panels last but a few years.

And in spite of all of this I don't blame the Mayans.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2013 07:37 PM (BzGtc)

333 I am not a member of the echo chamber, so that makes me an asshole. I have my own ideas and original thoughts.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:27 PM (42ieH)

Well aren't you a special little snowflake.

You really should get a job as a sommelier.

Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 07:37 PM (Zd/NW)

334 @ 325 Cicero (@cicero)

That's real nice of you. Does that raise your self esteem?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:37 PM (42ieH)

335 332 Hi, all! Yep, I'm rich, but it's got nothing to do with money, I have a great family and friends who love me!

To those on the game #2 football thread, partiers just left, after helping me clean up the mess, and the police didn't pay us a visit today, so I'd call my football playoff party a great success!

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 11:36 PM (u96Iy)

Oh Hugs, how are you??

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 07:38 PM (adaoe)

336 Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 11:35 PM (1V6Pv) Wow. That is startlingly stupid.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 06, 2013 07:38 PM (FsUAO)

337 Reality Check....Reagan is 10x the speaker Oldpleatedpants-bama is....and he speaks of truth and freedom. The greatest President since Lincoln...and half of this was because he knew how to sell his truth. The other half was.because he spoke truth...freedom and love of the Constitution. Even Dens were voting for him. How many Rs have voted tot the Scoamf? He got out the vote of R,D and independents. No other president in modern history has come close to doing this. W the exception of Romney among whit voters. (GOODNIGHT).

Posted by: John Stark Dark at January 06, 2013 07:38 PM (0JB89)

338 Shouldn't that Taint-sniffer be flagged by the trollbuster?

I hoped Ace would give toby928 TB3K access for Christmas.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 06, 2013 07:38 PM (6RBEd)

339 You really should get a job as a sommelier. Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 11:37 PM (Zd/NW) Damn you, now I have to look that up.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:39 PM (l86i3)

340 No such luck. The daywalker threads will remain at peril.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:39 PM (QupBk)

341 Libertarians are more dangerous than Commies.
Y'all might know how I feel about Commies.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 07:40 PM (1V6Pv)

342 You really should get a job as a sommelier. LOL, now I get it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:40 PM (l86i3)

343 You really should get a job as a sommelier. Self-referential memes beaten to death are the delight of this site.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:40 PM (QupBk)

344 Coothie!!!!!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 07:40 PM (YtMpu)

345 @ 338 John Stark
That's another thing I do not like about many Conservatives. This White resentment crap. It turns my stomach. We should be fighting to unite all Americans.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:40 PM (42ieH)

346 On another note, one thing I hate about the visuals of hepcat video films like the Bournes is that little fast-forward shuffle they do, that doesn't exactly indicate the passage of time so much as compress the few seconds formerly occupied by the main themes of a soundtrack score. Want to get Jason from one end of the shopping centre to the other? Just speed up the tape. It was cute exactly once. Supposed to be druglike? Psychological? Time-relative? Kid stuff. Bet you a semester at LA Film these little pricks never had to read about the Unities.

And the sound. I played in a rock band, worked in a glass plant, but damnitall I can still carry on a conversation in a crowded room. Dark moderne fillums are scored for sub-woofed 7.1 systems, and have to be played at high volume. Fine for the gunfights and ka-booms, but they mix down the dialogue if you watch on a TV or monitor screen with mere stereo. The enunciation is poor, since everyone is personifying an I-don't-care mumbling antihero, and the microphone technique ("aural spacing") is indifferent. Effectively, all one-on-one speech is muffled. This is funny because grownups can't hear it. Like ghetto slang in junior high.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 07:40 PM (qaVK+)

347
Damn you, now I have to look that up.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 11:39 PM (l86i3)

Wine waiter.

Thread below had a pretentious a-hole show up claiming to be one.

Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (Zd/NW)

348 >Damn you, now I have to look that up.

it requires a shine box

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (8sCoq)

349 Must be a full moon tonight.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (sx9Ao)

350 245 Mero, Run Red in a nutshell.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (LRFds)

351 I hate that 0.2 second cut between scenes. Is that what they're teaching in film school now? Then execute the instructors there. Also, light the fucking scene so we have some idea what's going on.We watched - or attempted to watch - 2012 (piece of shit, btw), but it might as well have been about a black cat in coal bin. And written by a class of eighth grade retards.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 11:21 PM

Yeah, the machinegun cuts are probably worse than the shittycam shakes. The midnight-O-vision is a bunch of suck. Lighting nightime/dark scenes seems to be a lost art, these days. It might be due to digital shooting (which sucks), compared to film (which still rules), or the genius fucks who direct going with "cinema verite" and wanting only ambient lighting, or some shit, "just like real life". If I wanted "real life" I wouldn't be watching a fucking movie, fucking arseholes.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (yBF/9)

352 Thread below had a pretentious a-hole show up claiming to be one. He's a semi-regular so I cut him some slack. But the beating was funny.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (QupBk)

353 @ 331 lou's a girl
If you do not like abortion, don't get one. I do not think the government should pay for it.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:42 PM (42ieH)

354 Is that you corky? Don't be insulting poor corkie like that!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 07:42 PM (YtMpu)

355 Hi, Lou's!!! I'm doing great, how are you? Haven't visited the ONT in a while and I've missed you and the rest of the gang.

I sure wish it was the Cowboys in the playoffs, which will probably never happen again in my lifetime, (pulls out tiny violin) but it's great to have a 2nd favorite team to root for!

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 07:42 PM (u96Iy)

356 Wine waiter. Thread below had a pretentious a-hole show up claiming to be one. Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 11:41 PM (Zd/NW) I've tipped a few of those.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:42 PM (l86i3)

357 You really should get a job as a sommelier. Hail Cork Master.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 06, 2013 07:42 PM (dMREi)

358 I hoped Ace would give toby928 TB3K access for Christmas.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 06, 2013 11:38 PM (6RBEd)

I think I should have it. Think of the amusement that would be had!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:42 PM (Gk3SS)

359 I think I should have it. It would definitely be a good.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:43 PM (QupBk)

360 @ 328 Thorvald

Why is it if you don't agree with going to war to support Islamic terrorists, you are an anti-Semite? Can you explain why opposing intervention in Syria is anti-Semitic?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (42ieH)

361 It would definitely be a good. Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at January 06, 2013 11:43 PM (QupBk)

Exactly!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (Gk3SS)

362 354 @ 331 lou's a girl
If you do not like abortion, don't get one. I do not think the government should pay for it.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:42 PM (42ieH)

You are deranged

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (adaoe)

363 Only the Cork Master knows which goes with whine and pork.

Posted by: Frasier at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (I88Jc)

364 The GoDaddy Bowl sucks monkey poo.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:45 PM (QupBk)

365 at's real nice of you. Does that raise your self esteem?

No. I feel terrible now. I'm so sorry. Can I make it up to you somehow?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2013 07:45 PM (pAAUB)

366 I think I should have it. Think of the amusement that would be had! Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 11:42 PM (Gk3SS) Agreed, but I would rather have an Alextopia game, much like farmville with less civility and more debauchery.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:45 PM (l86i3)

367 @ 363 lou's a girl

What is deranged by opposing funding of abortions? I thought that's one area Socons and Libertarians can agree on.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (42ieH)

368 You are deranged Acckkkk, starve the troll so it'll go away

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (YtMpu)

369 269

There is now a lot of L-hate among conservatives. Great strategy play by the progressives, but also a product of Paulite foreign policy (or, you might say, the lack of it).

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 11:21 PM (qaVK+)

The big-Ls' Bush derangement was virtually indistinguishable from that of the Democrats' for eight years. That unholy union has made the entire party unpalatable for me.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (dzERw)

370 368 @ 363 lou's a girl

What is deranged by opposing funding of abortions? I thought that's one area Socons and Libertarians can agree on.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:46 PM (42ieH)

You dumbfuck, that was my argument, but keep keep living in your sick head.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (adaoe)

371 @ 366 Cicero (@cicero)

No hard feelings, it's all good. I admit I act like an ass sometimes. I deserve some of the shit I get.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (42ieH)

372

Reality Check @ 323

Why are you here engaging in this pointless rhetoric if you believe in "live and let live"? You are either here as a troll for shits and grins or your are trying to persuade people to live life "your way".

Where did I say I wanted people to live life "my way"? I only emphasized that the failure of the Libertarian party was the reliance of it's people to live within personal restraint, because what they want is almost total personal liberty. With that comes either greater personal responsibility or total anarchy.

When the great muddle of people are confronted with anarchy, they will cry for ORDER, which means a kind of fascism, which I am not down with at all. So either we have some kind of ordered populace because they choose to be ordered on their own responsibilities as citizens (which was the old America before the Civil War), or we have what we have now, which is an encroaching grade of statism that is grinding down personal responsibility and personal initiative and replacing it with more government free cheese and pablum.

Freedom is as much a state of mind as a state of being. Lock me in a prison, but my mind is still my own, and I can still think the thoughts of a free man. Crush a man's spirit and rob him of his self-worth, and he no longer thinks of himself as free.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (Md8Uo)

373 361 @ 328 Thorvald

Why is it if you don't agree with going to war to support Islamic terrorists, you are an anti-Semite? Can you explain why opposing intervention in Syria is anti-Semitic?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:44 PM (42ieH)

How many horse beds did you steal from to construct your strawman there you idiotic fuck?

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (GULKT)

374 Acckkkk, starve the troll so it'll go away Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 11:46 PM (YtMpu) This is a eally stupid one. What happened to the less stupid ones.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:47 PM (l86i3)

375

We should be fighting to unite all Americans.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:40 PM (42ieH)

As a liberal, or other commie, I think you meant to say "we should be uniting to fight all Americans," not the other way 'round.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 07:47 PM (DXlwL)

376 I just don't see the appeal of trolling. This guy makes me long for DMXoid. Now that was a smart Libertarian guy. I disagreed with him and made much mock but there was no disputing his IQ. He has a website and everything.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:47 PM (QupBk)

377 Agreed, but I would rather have an Alextopia game, much like farmville with less civility and more debauchery. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 11:45 PM (l86i3)

Wait, there's civility in Farmville? When did that happen?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:47 PM (Gk3SS)

378 356 Hi, Lou's!!! I'm doing great, how are you? Haven't visited the ONT in a while and I've missed you and the rest of the gang.

I sure wish it was the Cowboys in the playoffs, which will probably never happen again in my lifetime, (pulls out tiny violin) but it's great to have a 2nd favorite team to root for!

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 11:42 PM (u96Iy)

Doing really good, grandbaby turns 1 year old this month, and hubby and I tied the knot. Glad you are good!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 07:48 PM (adaoe)

379 @361 You don't know me. You only think you know me.
Your kind goes first.
You don't even know why.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 07:48 PM (1V6Pv)

380 @ 370 Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm

Bush was a Big Government Liberal and a puppet for Saudi Arabia. That's why many Liberal opposed him. Why is Bush so sacred to Conservatives. He was Obama with a lighter complexion.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:48 PM (42ieH)

381 sommeliers and debauchery? What have you monsters done with the AoSHQ?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 06, 2013 07:49 PM (qU8Hy)

382 I'm just skimming here....is AlextheChick a sommelier?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 07:49 PM (GsoHv)

383 'Die Hard 2' did a great service in letting the public know that a Glock, which costs more than you make in a month, passes through metal detectors at the airport.

Posted by: RWC at January 06, 2013 07:50 PM (sqp6o)

384 @ 376 Jay Guevara

You are the one named after The Stalinist mass murderer Che Guevara. Ideologically, you are closer to Communists than I.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:50 PM (42ieH)

385

Hola, FIF's! Now my mom has 6 concurrent WordsWithFriends games going on (with just me as her adversary -- I need to inform her that she can invite other people). Plus making 2 different homemade pizzas for husband! Can't do all this shit! My magnanimity (I know) is only rivaled by Teh Won, BHO, the JEF SCOAMT.

Posted by: kalneva at January 06, 2013 07:50 PM (S+/pH)

386 Can you explain why opposing intervention in Syria is anti-Semitic?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:44 PM (42ieH)

It isn't. But guys who suck Ron Paul's cock tend to be anti-Semites.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 07:50 PM (GsoHv)

387 I'm just skimming here....is AlextheChick a sommelier?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 11:49 PM (GsoHv)

*taps chin* Well, I am an arrogant jackass so I have most of the qualifications already.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:50 PM (Gk3SS)

388 Wait, there's civility in Farmville? When did that happen? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 11:47 PM (Gk3SS) It was a SWAG, I don't engage in that. Can ADM dump the price of crops, pay off local Pols and confinscate you farmland? Does the Farmer get an AK to murder the lawyers on the way out of the court house before he kills himself? I can see Farmville getting really nasty in todays economy.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:51 PM (l86i3)

389 #379 - Grandbaby's a year old! Doesn't seem that long ago we were congratulating the new grandma! One of my great nieces turned 1 year old 2 days ago. Wherethehell does the time go?

And, congratulations and best wishes to you and hubby!

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 07:51 PM (u96Iy)

390 ..is AlextheChick a sommelier? I think she'd a stompybootier

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 07:51 PM (YtMpu)

391 Reality Check is the exact reason I used a small 'l' for my libertarianism. What an ass. Grumpy the Younger has it right, Heinlein came to the right conclusions about the role of government and self control. He didn't start out there.

Sure, I think drugs ought to be legalized. It's not a driving force in my life, or even how I vote, and my drugs of choice are all currently legal in all 50 states. I just think that locking up/discarding a large chunk of our population is a much greater harm than the cure (the War on Drugs).

As someone else above mentioned, a lot of conservatives have libertarian leanings but the brand is damaged worse than conservatism itself.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 07:51 PM (ccXZP)

392 Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:50 PM (42ieH)

I KNEW there was something suspicious about the commenter known as "Jay Guevara."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 07:52 PM (GsoHv)

393 Hey baby, I hear the blues a calling!

Tossed salads and scrambled eggs, they're calling again.

Posted by: Frasier at January 06, 2013 07:52 PM (I88Jc)

394 Okay, that was an interesting survey. Now, Cynthia Chase does not want the state she lives in to be run by Reality Check. Anybody think she's less ugly now?

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 07:52 PM (qaVK+)

395 The Libertarians need to stick to local and state elections, but they can't. It's the hubris again. They can only be spoilers at the national level at 2%.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:53 PM (QupBk)

396

You are the one named after The Stalinist mass murderer Che Guevara. Ideologically, you are closer to Communists than I.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:50 PM (42ieH)

Irony, shithead. Look it up.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 07:53 PM (DXlwL)

397 Oh damn. Someone just took an aluminum bat to the face on TruTV. Yes!!!

Posted by: RWC at January 06, 2013 07:53 PM (sqp6o)

398 "I am an arrogant jackass..."

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 11:50 PM (Gk3SS)

Ah...kindred spirits.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 07:53 PM (GsoHv)

399 @ 374 buzzion
It's not a straw-man it's true. If you oppose military intervention to help Islamic terrorists, you get called an anti-Semite. That's what I was called because I oppose getting involved in Syria.

I am very Pro-Israel and it pisses me off how people who claim to be supporters of Israel support Islamic terrorists.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:53 PM (42ieH)

400 libertarians are always arguing about who's more libertarian than who

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:53 PM (8sCoq)

401 There is more to life than weed. I'm sick of "libertarians" who will happily abandon all the freedoms that really matter -- the freedoms to say, think, work, and spend your money as you choose -- in exchange for the "freedom" to stay stoned. Aldous Huxley fucking nailed it. Posted by: Trimegistus at January 06, 2013 11:31 PM (7tSG7) A large number of Libertarians would have happily helped the Khmer Rouge slaughter millions just because their leader was Pol Pot.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2013 07:54 PM (Vk2pI)

402 libertarians are always arguing about who's more libertarian than who This.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:54 PM (QupBk)

403

Tossed salads ..., they're calling again.

Posted by: Frasier at January 06, 2013 11:52 PM (I88Jc)

Leave Reality Check out of this.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 07:54 PM (DXlwL)

404 Hold on! That NH rep is a womyn? I thought it was a very feminine man.

Posted by: RWC at January 06, 2013 07:54 PM (sqp6o)

405 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 11:53 PM (DXlwL)

Wait. So....you AREN'T a communist?

I am so confused.

Reality Check. Save us, you're our only hope!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 07:55 PM (GsoHv)

406

So is this Cynthia Chase woman related to Chevy Chase?

Both a couple of real badasses, huh?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 07:55 PM (Md8Uo)

407 No hard feelings, it's all good. I admit I act like an ass sometimes. I deserve some of the shit I get.

No problem. There is much that I can learn from you. Mind if I call you "sensei"? You can call me "grasshopper."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2013 07:55 PM (pAAUB)

408 Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:50 PM (42ieH)

Use of 'reality' in nick - CHECK
Repetitive use of term 'socons' - CHECK
Concern about 'neocons' - CHECK
Lots of 'concern' about conservative fortunes - CHECK

Current TB3K score: 85

Posted by: Mætenloch at January 06, 2013 07:56 PM (XkotV)

409 ESPN is still sucking Alabama dick. I figured that today would be ND's chance for the fellatio.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:56 PM (QupBk)

410 400 @ 374 buzzion
It's not a straw-man it's true. If you oppose military intervention to help Islamic terrorists, you get called an anti-Semite. That's what I was called because I oppose getting involved in Syria.

I am very Pro-Israel and it pisses me off how people who claim to be supporters of Israel support Islamic terrorists.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:53 PM (42ieH)

You were responding to comment 328.

It is quite interesting that you didn't object to the "faggot" line though, taint-sniffer. Now quit stealing from the horses and get lost you boring jackass.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 07:56 PM (GULKT)

411 394 Heh. That's what I'm watching now on Netflix. Daphne circa 1993...rowr.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 06, 2013 07:57 PM (5J54Q)

412 Kent State still has time for a winning TD drive to save me 15 points.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:57 PM (QupBk)

413 Kent State still has time for a winning TD drive to save me 15 points. Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at January 06, 2013 11:57 PM (QupBk) Their gonna need the National Gaurd. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 07:58 PM (l86i3)

414 409 You left out : Concerned about Israel. See 400

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2013 07:58 PM (M/TDA)

415 @ 408 Cicero (@cicero)

Hey I'm no sensei. I'm just like you, posting my thoughts. You and I are just trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents!

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 07:58 PM (42ieH)

416 Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 11:51 PM (ccXZP)

If you can construct a political system that doesn't make me pay for the stupidity and destructiveness of those who would use legal drugs, then I am on your side.

But who is going to pay for the crack babies and the life-long heroin addicts and the car crashes and the lost productivity and.......?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (GsoHv)

417 libertarians are always arguing about who's more libertarian than who

and showing off their huge tracts of land

Posted by: fluffy at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (z9HTb)

418 Fuck. Dropped TD pass.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (QupBk)

419 Wait, what? Jay Guevara is a communist? Is that a big "C" or a little "c" communist?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (AQ/OR)

420 Kent State's receivers can't catch for shit.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (QupBk)

421 @ 415 Tuna

Israel is being surrounded by the Muslim Brotherhood. After Syria, Jordan is their next target. But many Conservatives do not see that.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:00 PM (42ieH)

422

Reality Check. Save us, you're our only hope!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 11:55 PM (GsoHv)

Forget it, Charlie, he's penetrated (?) my cunning cover as a Comintern operative. I thought that by not running for office as a Dem no one would realize that I'm a commie.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:00 PM (DXlwL)

423 Looks like a cathedral bell tower somewheres in New England is missing its ringer.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 06, 2013 08:00 PM (Nfpnr)

424 409 >> Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch

And as usual, Maet brings teh clarity along with a healthy whiff of ozone.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 08:00 PM (ccXZP)

425 4th and 8. Kent States decides to go for it.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (QupBk)

426 Vera Lynn's "There'll Always Be an England":

http://youtu.be/-GvkyKEYRnM

Posted by: A Cottage Small, owned by all at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (I88Jc)

427 @ 423 Jay Guevara

Many Socons are actually Marxists.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (42ieH)

428 1st down! Go! Whatever the hell you guys are! Go!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (QupBk)

429

Wait, what? Jay Guevara is a communist? Is that a big "C" or a little "c" communist?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 06, 2013 11:59 PM (AQ/OR)

Neither, Seamus. I'm a little "l" communist.

Let the ideological parsing begin!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (DXlwL)

430 Ah, Golden Flashes. Thanks google.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:02 PM (QupBk)

431 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 12:00 AM (DXlwL)

I knew it! I thought I saw you at a Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade meeting in Evans Hall in late 1978.

Sneaky....very sneaky.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:02 PM (GsoHv)

432 @ 406 CharlieBrown'sDildo

I'm not Obiwan Kenobi! LOL! Nice Star Wars reference.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:03 PM (42ieH)

433 Go Flashes!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:03 PM (QupBk)

434 I'm a merican, capitol M.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:03 PM (l86i3)

435 pedantic but with all the emphasis on the FICA tax holiday expiration, neither party showed any interest in extending it

Posted by: JDP at January 06, 2013 08:03 PM (8HhF2)

436 Oh goody. Another war between conservatives and libertarians.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2013 08:03 PM (sdi6R)

437 Started watching the AK State and Kent State game a bit while we were cleaning up. I'll usually watch anybody play anybody in football, but I think I'm footballed out today. That doesn't happen very often to me.

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (u96Iy)

438 4th and 8 again.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (QupBk)

439 reality check I am a conservative and I know Jordan's days as a monarchy are numbered. But most libertarians of the Paulbot variety are totally anti-semitic and anti-Israel. If you were honest, you would admit this. y problem with the Paulian libertarians is that they have the same positions as the OWS and anarchist crowd, and I want no part of that

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (Dnbau)

440 Oh goody. Another war between conservatives and libertarians. Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2013 12:03 AM (sdi6R) No war, just a bleeding hemmoroid on the sphincter of AoS.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (l86i3)

441 "Many Socons are actually Marxists." dubyatf

Posted by: JDP at January 06, 2013 08:05 PM (8HhF2)

442 390 #379 - Grandbaby's a year old! Doesn't seem that long ago we were congratulating the new grandma! One of my great nieces turned 1 year old 2 days ago. Wherethehell does the time go?

And, congratulations and best wishes to you and hubby!

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 11:51 PM (u96Iy)

Yep time does fly. Thanks. I am with you, my life is rich in Love.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 08:05 PM (adaoe)

443 Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2013 12:03 AM (sdi6R)

We already won. We're just having fun poking the dopers with sticks, and throwing feces at their banners.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:05 PM (GsoHv)

444 @ 392 GnuBreed

What have I said you disagree with?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:05 PM (42ieH)

445 345 Coothie!!!!!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 11:40 PM (YtMpu)

BBD! How are you doin'??

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 08:05 PM (kaalw)

446 Part of me is disappointed that the Redskins didn't win today, partly because I can't stand Pete Carroll. But the way it sounds like RG3 was playing its probably for the best that he is done fore the year otherwise Shanahan might have made this the only season he'd ever get to play.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 08:06 PM (GULKT)

447 Could somebody post the schedule so I know what day people don't volunteer to let trolls bone the fucking threads by constantly giving them the attention they crave? I'll be back on that day.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 08:06 PM (bxiXv)

448 417 >> If you can construct a political system that doesn't make me pay for the stupidity and destructiveness of those who would use legal drugs, then I am on your side.

CBD, you have of course identified the major flaw in what I think is the best course. As it is set up right now, there is zero chance of requiring the attendant personal responsibility that must go with legalization. Without that, it cannot work but in a horribly flawed manner.

Which is why I mentioned that is not the way I vote.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 08:06 PM (ccXZP)

449 Feeling good enough to post, but not to get out & toodle around much yet

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 08:06 PM (YtMpu)

450 Part of me is disappointed that the Redskins didn't win today, partly because I can't stand Pete Carroll. But the way it sounds like RG3 was playing its probably for the best that he is done fore the year otherwise Shanahan might have made this the only season he'd ever get to play. Posted by: buzzion at January 07, 2013 12:06 AM (GULKT) Kids got guts. I saw his knee go out, he had no business on the field.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:07 PM (l86i3)

451 Bring forth the Holy Litmus Paper of Antioch, for the ritual purity test is about to begin!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 06, 2013 08:07 PM (4wfym)

452 Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:04 AM (Dnbau)

About those complete sentences and rational thoughts?

They're wasted.

Don't bother. Just throw poo. It's more fun and less effort.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:07 PM (GsoHv)

453 Kent State fails to convert, and my chances of making the top 10 look lost.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:07 PM (QupBk)

454 445...You said you were going away for the night

Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 08:07 PM (dmEoV)

455 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 07, 2013 12:06 AM (bxiXv) No shit. I'm just thinking 'WTF is going on?' Are the morons on another thread? When is Jordan and Jon coming?

Posted by: RWC at January 06, 2013 08:08 PM (sqp6o)

456 I'll be back on that day. Click my nic.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:09 PM (QupBk)

457 From "Showboat," Paul Robeson's "Ol' Man River":

http://youtu.be/eh9WayN7R-s

Posted by: Divide we stand; United we queue at January 06, 2013 08:09 PM (I88Jc)

458 445...You said you were going away for the night Posted by: owlpellets at January 07, 2013 12:07 AM (dmEoV) When liars lie they lie about everything. It's heartbreaking.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:09 PM (l86i3)

459 has anybody discussed the weird psychology of Rex Ryans tattoo of his wife wearing nothing but a Sanchez jersey and tebowing? What is that about?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:10 PM (Dnbau)

460 First paycheck of the year at my place of employment coming up this Friday. Can't wait to hear all the carping about higher taxes and health insurance premiums. Good times.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2013 08:10 PM (M/TDA)

461 @ 440 Thunderb

The Paulians are really Anarchists who use the name Libertarian. A true Libertarian can never support Islamists. Islam is no different than Marxism. It destroys an individual and creates a powerful state.

That said, I do oppose the Neocons because they support the Muslim Brotherhood's agenda. That's why they supported Obama's illegal war in Libya and are calling for us to get involved in Syria. They silence people who point this out by calling them anti-Semites.

Conservatives are no saints when it comes to bigotry either. Libertarians nd Conservatives both have bigots that give each respective ideology a black eye.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:10 PM (42ieH)

462 Posted by: GnuBreed at January 07, 2013 12:06 AM (ccXZP)

Ah, a logical libertarian (at least about drugs). That must suck at parties.

What is perhaps most frustrating to me is that the cost of our current war on drugs might very well be more than the societal cost of complete legalization. But I am unwilling to pay for the vices of others. I would rather pay for their incarceration.

Emotional, probably stupid, but......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:10 PM (GsoHv)

463 What is that about? Bad shrooms?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 08:10 PM (YtMpu)

464

Conservatives are losing people's hearts and minds due to picking the wrong fights. The obsession over abortion and other social issues turns people off. Once they are turned off, they don't listen to another stances. People like Akins, Bachman and Santorum have become the face of Conservatism.

Hello reality do you get it, do you see where you are wrong as hell on everything you said after making this comment? You told us we should change our beliefs, but accept everyone else, do you get it? Do you see? And wtf is a stance?

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 08:11 PM (adaoe)

465 I was OK with Notre Dame until they pissed on the Pope in order to suck the dick of TFG

So tomorrow it's ROLLLLL TIDE!

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 08:11 PM (wwsoB)

466 http://youtu.be/-GvkyKEYRnM Posted by: A Cottage Small, owned by all at January 07, 2013 12:01 AM (I88Jc) O Rly?

Posted by: Grand Mufti of Londonistan at January 06, 2013 08:11 PM (Vk2pI)

467 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 07, 2013 12:06 AM (bxiXv) Ha. That's pretty much exactly what i texted to my friend. Messing with the knee, could have been a career ender. Let that knee heal.

Posted by: RWC at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (sqp6o)

468 >> What have I said you disagree with?

Practically everything RC, because of how you present it and yourself.

Your idea of personal responsibility is to insult everyone that doesn't agree with you. And that IS everyone.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (ccXZP)

469 Re: Bob Owens and Minutemen, a few observations.
The Commie-fag-junkie Complex has seen both Red Dawn movies, they've paid their fag physicists and hackers for opinions on EMP weapons and their allies, the dead baby Chinks, are the Numbah Won cyber criminals in the world.
How does the word get out?
Whom do you kill first?

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (1V6Pv)

470

I knew it! I thought I saw you at a Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade meeting in Evans Hall in late 1978.

Sneaky....very sneaky.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2013 12:02 AM (GsoHv)

No, no, comrade, it was Latimer Hall, remember?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (DXlwL)

471 I mean, why would he think its hot that his wife is wearing the uniform of his subordinate and aping the pose of another one? Just weird. With that and the toe sucking, weird. But he loves his wife

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (Dnbau)

472 And wtf is a stance? Posted by: lou's a girl at January 07, 2013 12:11 AM

Don't ask!

Posted by: Sen. Larry Craig at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (wwsoB)

473 462 Ayn Rand is that you

Posted by: JDP at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (8HhF2)

474 Emotional, probably stupid, but...... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2013 12:10 AM (GsoHv) I'm with you, for now. When there comes a day they are shut out of E-rooms and allowed to die with minimum cost to the public. I sat leagalize.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (l86i3)

475

>> What have I said you disagree with?

That you're heterosexual.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:13 PM (DXlwL)

476 @ 463 CharlieBrown'sDildo
The war on drugs has created a police state. If people want to overdose, I don't care. I just do not think I should pay for it.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:13 PM (42ieH)

477 No, no, comrade, it was Latimer Hall, remember? Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 12:12 AM (DXlwL) Barrington Hall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNrTKhGbqi4

Posted by: Frog Brigade at January 06, 2013 08:14 PM (Vk2pI)

478 didn't he have porn on his playbook on the sidelines too? Or was that his evil twin rob?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:16 PM (Dnbau)

479 No, no, comrade, it was Latimer Hall, remember?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 12:12 AM (DXlwL)

Very well. But Evans had all of those tiny rooms in the basement that clubs held meetings in. And besides, there were some cold warriors who wandered those hallways. They would have recognized the stench of the real Che very quickly and doused him with Aqua Regia.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:16 PM (GsoHv)

480

@ 469 GnuBreed

The Socons insult anyone who doe not agree with their Theocratic agenda. I just give them back what they dish out. I have not insulted you and if I have, I apologize.

Posted by: Vicious at January 06, 2013 08:16 PM (42ieH)

481 Omg the troll killed the thread. You bastard!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 08:16 PM (YtMpu)

482 didn't he have porn on his playbook on the sidelines too? Or was that his evil twin rob? Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:16 AM (Dnbau) I think they had a perverted Uncle when they were kids.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:17 PM (l86i3)

483 436 pedantic but with all the emphasis on the FICA tax holiday expiration, neither party showed any interest in extending it

Posted by: JDP at January 07, 2013 12:03 AM (8HhF2)

Considering that it brings the day when Social Security goes tits up more than halfway towards "today", it's no great wonder that it ain't popular.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 08:17 PM (kaalw)

484 Nobody knows the trouble I've seen...nobody know my sorrow...

Posted by: Fletch at January 06, 2013 08:17 PM (I88Jc)

485 Why do you care how people live their lives? What right gives you to impose your worldview on others? Why not take a live and let live viewpoint?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 11:34 PM (42ieH)

Wait, the last time I debated you, weren't you practically arguing for a Christian state? To the point of arguing that we f'ked up in fighting the American Revolution?

When the f'k did you become a libertarian?

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:18 PM (zYzxT)

486 No, no, comrade, it was Latimer Hall, remember?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 12:12 AM (DXlwL)

My first roommate was arrested the day I got to campus. He was a commie, and had been blockading the post office to protest the draft, or rather, registration.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:18 PM (GsoHv)

487 481 Hectorrrrrr

Posted by: JDP at January 06, 2013 08:18 PM (8HhF2)

488 there must have been some weird shit they were exposed to in the ryan household, but I bet they are fun at a party! I mean, don't they look like you'd like to have a beer with them and hear their crazy stories?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:19 PM (Dnbau)

489 Posted by: Frog Brigade at January 07, 2013 12:14 AM (Vk2pI)

Who are you?

I lived in Barrington for almost two years.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:19 PM (GsoHv)

490

@ 486 AD

You must have me confused for someone else. I oppose any Theocracy whether Islamic, Christian or any religion.

Posted by: Vicious at January 06, 2013 08:19 PM (42ieH)

491 Hello bitches!

I'll be your sommelier tonight. We're all out of wine but please accept this Nyquil cup filled with some fermented Welch's Grape Juice I discovered in the back of our refrigerator!

Remember to try the veal and please tip your waitress!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (BuSM8)

492 listen... I am trying to drag this thread into porn and toe sucking and weird tattoos and weird families.. anybody?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (Dnbau)

493 Their must have been some weird shit they were exposed to in the ryan household, but I bet they are fun at a party! I mean, don't they look like you'd like to have a beer with them and hear their crazy stories? Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:19 AM (Dnbau) I was thinkin they could be on a sexual predator registry.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (l86i3)

494 I'm pretty certain this asshole was previously banned, and the only reason he's able to annoy tonight is because he got a new hash.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (GULKT)

495 Posted by: Vicious at January 07, 2013 12:19 AM (42ieH)

Arbitrary nic changes - CHECK

Cumulative TB3K score: 88

Posted by: Mætenloch at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (XkotV)

496 anybody? Don't look at me, I threw trashy lingerie into the equation

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 08:21 PM (YtMpu)

497 493 listen... I am trying to drag this thread into porn and toe sucking and weird tattoos and weird families.. anybody?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:20 AM (Dnbau)

A worthy cause, to be sure!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 08:21 PM (kaalw)

498 Gee, I'd like to be an abolitionist although I won't because my detractors could then label me a theocrat.

Posted by: John Brown at January 06, 2013 08:22 PM (I88Jc)

499

@ 495 buzzion

I am an asshole becasue I do not subcroibe to either Social Conservatism nor NeoConservatism. Why are you afraid of different viewpoints?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:22 PM (42ieH)

500 493 listen... I am trying to drag this thread into porn and toe sucking and weird tattoos and weird families.. anybody?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:20 AM (Dnbau)

But it involves Rex Ryan.

I was much more interested in hearing about bebe and gushka shopping for trashy lingerie.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 08:22 PM (GULKT)

501 I mean, if I got a tattoo of my husband's tax guy wearing the suit of his audit committee guy, it would be pretty weird, no?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:22 PM (Dnbau)

502 @ 486 AD
You must have me confused for someone else. I oppose any Theocracy whether Islamic, Christian or any religion.

No, I don't (assuming you're Reality Check). You argued that we f'ked up in fighting the American Revolution and, in particular, that making a fetish of freedom was a mistake because it was a subversion of god's will. You were practically doing a Loki impersonation.

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:22 PM (zYzxT)

503

But Evans had all of those tiny rooms in the basement that clubs held meetings in.

Ah, but that proves my point. The Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade at our alma mater could only hold meetings in the lecture theater in Latimer Hall. Anything else would be much too small. The tiny rooms in the basement of Evans Hall were for loyal Americans to meet in.

And besides, there were some cold warriors who wandered those hallways. They would have recognized the stench of the real Che very quickly and doused him with Aqua Regia.

Or Canoe, whichever smelled worse.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:22 PM (DXlwL)

504 I threw trashy lingerie into the equation

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 07, 2013 12:21 AM (YtMpu)

This trashy?

http://tinyurl.com/ap4egmo

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:23 PM (GsoHv)

505 I was much more interested in hearing about bebe and gushka shopping for trashy lingerie. Posted by: buzzion at January 07, 2013 12:22 AM (GULKT) Indeed. I do have a question. While wearing a thong, Does the single strip that rests in a womans but crack help to silence farts?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:24 PM (l86i3)

506 500 you're a smugocon?

Posted by: JDP at January 06, 2013 08:24 PM (8HhF2)

507

listen... I am trying to drag this thread into porn and toe sucking and weird tattoos and weird families.. anybody?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:20 AM (Dnbau)

Finally, a voice of sanity and good taste to rescue us!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:24 PM (DXlwL)

508

@ 493 Thunderb

Republicans should nominate a porn star in 2016. They probably would clean clock. Pornstars are not on welfare and make their own money. They should be a natural constituencies.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:24 PM (42ieH)

509 496 Posted by: Vicious at January 07, 2013 12:19 AM (42ieH)

Arbitrary nic changes - CHECK

Cumulative TB3K score: 88

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at January 07, 2013 12:20 AM (XkotV)

I know what you're thinking. "Does the TB3K go off at 100, or 99?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a TB3K, the most powerful banhammer on the site, and would blow your hash clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 08:24 PM (kaalw)

510 Why are you afraid of different viewpoints?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 07, 2013 12:22 AM (42ieH)

Gratuitous accusations of cowardice - CHECK

Cumulative TB3K score: 89

Posted by: Mætenloch at January 06, 2013 08:24 PM (XkotV)

511 did the communists have porn? Has that been explored? I mean sure, since the collapse of the Soviet Union there is a ton of it, but what about before? Was there Soviet Porn? Was it sponsored by the state. Probably was black market. Any takers?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:24 PM (Dnbau)

512 497 anybody?

Don't look at me, I threw trashy lingerie into the equation

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 07, 2013 12:21 AM (YtMpu)

Sorry bebe's. I am done with it!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 08:25 PM (adaoe)

513 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 12:22 AM (DXlwL)

Have you stayed in touch? Because as insane as it was in the 70s and 80s, it is much, much worse now.

Needless to say I do not donate any money.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:25 PM (GsoHv)

514

@ 503 AD

There must be a different Reality Check. I am no Theocrats and oppose the Socon agenda.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:25 PM (42ieH)

515 This trashy? That would be the correct site

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 08:25 PM (YtMpu)

516 @ 512 Russian women in porn are freaks. Then agains, they are freaks in real life.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:26 PM (42ieH)

517 there's one reality check and he's some kind of pseudo-sophisticated "what's wrong with the GOP" false-flag troll

Posted by: JDP at January 06, 2013 08:26 PM (8HhF2)

518 Wait, the last time I debated you, weren't you practically arguing for a Christian state? To the point of arguing that we f'ked up in fighting the American Revolution?

When the f'k did you become a libertarian?
Posted by: AD at January 07, 2013 12:18 AM

RC is all over the place, as if a group of friends is sharing a laptop. I wonder if there's an odor of cat piss present

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 08:26 PM (wwsoB)

519 493 >> listen... I am trying to drag this thread into porn and toe sucking and weird tattoos and weird families.. anybody?

I don't know anything about toe sucking, but everything I know about foot massages was covered in Pulp Fiction .

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 08:26 PM (ccXZP)

520 Okay since I am such a nice person. Olivia Munn in a French maid's outfit and chocolate pudding.
http://youtu.be/ed1Ucnvn08s

Good night and you are welcome.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:27 PM (spN65)

521 Does the single strip that rests in a womans but crack help to silence farts? Women don't fart, hence spontaneous combustion. Don't you watch south park?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 08:27 PM (YtMpu)

522 515
@ 503 AD
There must be a different Reality Check. I am no Theocrats and oppose the Socon agenda.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 07, 2013 12:25 AM (42ieH)

Here we go....

http://tinyurl.com/a7s5vdl

187 By breaking with parliament we broke with the Crown, by breaking with the Crown we broke with God. I know the Founders invoked a "creator" but that "creator" cannot be the Christian God because nowhere in the Bible does He "endow" us with "inalienable rights".

The Constitution enshrines plastic "rights" which are used to divide and conquer us.

We placed man over God, and we are witnessing the inevitable consequences.

Posted by: Reality Check at September 26, 2012 11:12 PM (ELEDJ)

What the fuck, dude?

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:27 PM (zYzxT)

523 In martial arts, the "whom do you kill first" question is non-trivial.
In debate, "I thought that's wut we were tryin' ta do."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3te6qb4

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 08:27 PM (1V6Pv)

524 511 Why are you afraid of different viewpoints?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 07, 2013 12:22 AM (42ieH)

Gratuitous accusations of cowardice - CHECK

Cumulative TB3K score: 89

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at January 07, 2013 12:24 AM (XkotV)

Oh, c'mon -- gratuitous accusations of cowardice have got to be worth more than a single point. Them's practic'ly fightin' words!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 08:27 PM (kaalw)

525 That graph of tax increase is a bit misleading. Yes the payroll tax went up; BACK TO IT'S ORIGINAL AMOUNT.

It was a vote buying scam to begin with and they said it was temporary to begin with. So let's not resort to word play to report what's happening like the Democrats do.

It was geared to do this very thing. Democrats (Obama) knew they would revert this tax to it's previous levels and that when they did so, they would be able to point the finger at Republicans for it's "increase".

Of course anyone who's got a brain didn't fall for it the first time but let's not aid their distortion.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka 3 tooth) at January 06, 2013 08:28 PM (3E2th)

526 didn't the Japanese create underwear to absorb farts? Perhaps they make a thong

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:28 PM (Dnbau)

527 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 07, 2013 12:27 AM (spN65) Good night AP, good night all.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:28 PM (l86i3)

528

@ 518 JDP

Can we drop irt for this evening and talk about Hot Women and Porn?

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:28 PM (42ieH)

529 Is Catpiss the Sybil troll still around? Been gone from here for quite a while.

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 08:28 PM (u96Iy)

530 I'm kind of CURIOUS who RC is ....

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 08:28 PM (wwsoB)

531 I'm sensing that English is not the troll's first language.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2013 08:29 PM (M/TDA)

532

Needless to say I do not donate any money.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2013 12:25 AM (GsoHv)

I'm with ya 100%. They gong on me periodically for bucks, citing the tight budget. I tell 'em fuckin' everybody's got a tight budget now; how many people have they laid off? Answer: none, of course.

Then I tell them to give me a clipboard, a sheaf of pink slips, and directions to the nearest Grievance Studies department, and I'll help them with their budgetary problem faster than you can say "Das Kapital."

Then they stopped calling.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:29 PM (DXlwL)

533 @523 Reality checkmate.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 08:29 PM (1V6Pv)

534 An oldie but a very, very goodie.

http://tinyurl.com/b7bqns9

NSFW

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:29 PM (GsoHv)

535

@ 525 AD

No way is that me! OMG, that dude is nuts. I would be taking that Theocrat on in a heartbeat.

Let's get back to Hot Women and Porn!

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:29 PM (42ieH)

536 didn't the Japanese create underwear to absorb farts? Perhaps they make a thong Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:28 AM (Dnbau) I know some high end office chair cushions have a layer of Charcol.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:30 PM (l86i3)

537 >> Indeed. I do have a question. While wearing a thong, Does the single strip that rests in a womans but crack help to silence farts?

OSP, you raise an important point -- Thongs add a whole new dimension to the term 'turdcutter'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 08:30 PM (ccXZP)

538 521 Okay since I am such a nice person. Olivia Munn in a French maid's outfit and chocolate pudding.
http://youtu.be/ed1Ucnvn08s

Good night and you are welcome.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 07, 2013 12:27 AM (spN65)

One of the great things about this site is that the ette's don't pretend to be PC and clueless -- they know men and appreciate them for what they are.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 08:30 PM (kaalw)

539

@ 534 Thorvald

Feel better about yourself? I think you need a hug!

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:31 PM (42ieH)

540 Then they stopped calling.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 12:29 AM (DXlwL)

Well done.

I just say that I am unhappy with the direction the school has taken. But that doesn't seem to knock me off the list.

I do miss the food and wine though.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:31 PM (GsoHv)

541

Have you stayed in touch? Because as insane as it was in the 70s and 80s, it is much, much worse now.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2013 12:25 AM (GsoHv)

No, I haven't. My impression is that it's now a bunch of Asians who've worked their asses off to get in, and to achieve while they're there, and a bunch of others who's only qualification for being there is having an opposable thumb.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:31 PM (DXlwL)

542

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:31 PM (DXlwL)

543 OSP, you raise an important point -- Thongs add a whole new dimension to the term 'turdcutter'. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 07, 2013 12:30 AM (ccXZP) I also wondered if it was tight enough, would it play a song?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:31 PM (l86i3)

544 @ 525 AD
No way is that me! OMG, that dude is nuts. I would be taking that Theocrat on in a heartbeat.
Let's get back to Hot Women and Porn!

Posted by: Reality Check at January 07, 2013 12:29 AM (42ieH)

I don't recall you acting like you were new on this site. You said:

I know I am the bad guy around here...

There's only been one other guy posting here with the name "Reality Check," so apparently that was you. If not, when did you post?

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:32 PM (zYzxT)

545 like a grass harp so to speak

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:32 PM (Dnbau)

546 Good Evening ya morons. First night of a six-in-a-row. How YOU doing?

Posted by: zeera at January 06, 2013 08:32 PM (3dXwx)

547 The Curly Stuffle:

http://youtu.be/FKAfXdb5LsA

Posted by: NYuck NYuck at January 06, 2013 08:32 PM (I88Jc)

548 Charlie, you do realize we should meet up sometime, right?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:32 PM (DXlwL)

549 RC has been pantsed and he is not wearing a thong. Lets move on

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:33 PM (Dnbau)

550 Posted by: cthulhu at January 07, 2013 12:27 AM (kaalw)

Maetenloch is a very tough but fair grader.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:33 PM (GsoHv)

551 522 Does the single strip that rests in a womans but crack help to silence farts?

Women don't fart, hence spontaneous combustion. Don't you watch south park?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 07, 2013 12:27 AM (YtMpu)

Yes I do. So no queefing. That's gross.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 08:33 PM (GULKT)

552 I also wondered if it was tight enough, would it play a song?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 07, 2013 12:31 AM (l86i3)

I don't know about a song, but a couple of notes....maybe even a motif.....

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 08:34 PM (kaalw)

553 like a grass harp so to speak Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:32 AM (Dnbau) Yes. Maybe a compilation of the rip offs of Zamphir's classic pan flute. Late night video sales would be incredible.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:34 PM (l86i3)

554 546...A double would sound like an oboe or english horn

Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 08:34 PM (dmEoV)

555 And seeing as this was the only person I have ever seen go by the monicker "Reality Check" in my entire 15 years of surfing the internet, I find the idea that it was not you somewhat hard to believe.

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:34 PM (zYzxT)

556

OMG why do they come to the ont, can we not just talk about guns, pudding, guns, big tits, guns ? Tee hee, just kidding, thanks for the laughs.

ok, going night night. Love yall more then my luggage! Have a good week

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 08:35 PM (adaoe)

557 my brother used to light his but then he burned his cheeks. It was still funny

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:35 PM (Dnbau)

558 550 RC has been pantsed and he is not wearing a thong. Lets move on Just as soon as I finish throwing up & applying brain bleach

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 08:35 PM (YtMpu)

559

@ 545 AD

I am not that Reality Check. I said I'm the bad guy around here because I do not support the SoCon-NeCon Axis. I am an anti-jihad Libertarian, my views puts me at odds with many here. Most here think the Muslim Brotherhood is some swell organization fighting for democracy in Syria. I oppose this worldview, that makes me he bad guy here.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 06, 2013 08:36 PM (42ieH)

560 that fat pissed off chick picture above, what would her thong sound like. A tuba?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:36 PM (Dnbau)

561 Indeed. I do have a question. While wearing a thong, Does the single strip that rests in a womans but crack help to silence farts?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 07, 2013 12:24 AM (l86i3)

Nope. It actually makes a whistling noise like when you put a blade of grass between your thumbs and blow.

Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 08:36 PM (Zd/NW)

562 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 12:31 AM (DXlwL)

I visited a few times about ten years ago because I was in the area for other things. Berkeley has gotten seedier, if that is possible.

Now? I have no interest.

A great university, perhaps the greatest in our history, driven into the gutter by political correctness and the statist aspirations of a series of awful governors, presidents and chancellors.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:36 PM (GsoHv)

563 Nite lou

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 08:36 PM (YtMpu)

564 Night, Lou's! Nice to run into you on here!

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 08:37 PM (u96Iy)

565 561...Fog horn

Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 08:37 PM (dmEoV)

566 Yep same Reality Check. Both had a major hardon for Romney bashing.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 08:37 PM (GULKT)

567 my brother used to light his but then he burned his cheeks. It was still funny Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:35 AM (Dnbau) Have you seen the yutes sudden need to shoot bottle rockets out of their asses? The Neighbor kid"s "Friend" had to go to the E-room cause apparently the sparks caught his pubes on fire a burnt his junk.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:37 PM (l86i3)

568 I am not that Reality Check. I said I'm the bad guy around here because I do not support the SoCon-NeCon Axis. I am an anti-jihad Libertarian, my views puts me at odds with many here. Most here think the Muslim Brotherhood is some swell organization fighting for democracy in Syria. I oppose this worldview,that makes me he bad guy here.

Posted by: Reality Check at January 07, 2013 12:36 AM (42ieH)

You are either new to this site or you are not.

If you are not new to this site, there is no way in hell you were not that Reality Check.

If you are new to this site, you had no reason to think you'd be the bad guy.

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:38 PM (zYzxT)

569

@ 556 AD

I changed my moniker to Reality Based to not confused with that guy. I just did a google search, no way in hell I want to be confused for him.

He really is some demented theocratic creep.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 08:38 PM (42ieH)

570 now thats just stupid. Along with butt chugging. This generation is rectum obsessed. Although I root for a football team that invented the butt fumble.

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:39 PM (Dnbau)

571

@ 569 AD

I never claimed to be new here. I just adopted the moniker Reality Check becasue I am not part of the echo chamber.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 08:39 PM (42ieH)

572 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 12:32 AM (DXlwL)

Absolutely. I went to school just down the road from you, and I am tempted to pay a visit.

Do they serve beer in your town?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:39 PM (GsoHv)

573 That said, I do oppose the Neocons because they support the Muslim Brotherhood's agenda. That's why they supported Obama's illegal war in Libya and are calling for us to get involved in Syria. They silence people who point this out by calling them anti-Semites. Conservatives are no saints when it comes to bigotry either. Libertarians nd Conservatives both have bigots that give each respective ideology a black eye. Posted by: Reality Check at January 07, 2013 12:10 AM (42ieH) Can I borrow that brush you're using? I have to paint the new drywall downstairs and I figure I can knock it out in about 2 minutes if I use yours. Thanks.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at January 06, 2013 08:40 PM (CQrtS)

574 570
@ 556 AD
I changed my moniker to Reality Based to not confused with that guy. I just did a google search, no way in hell I want to be confused for him.
He really is some demented theocratic creep.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 07, 2013 12:38 AM (42ieH)

You started posting on this thread.

People responded to you by saying "oh look what asshole just returned..."

If it wasn't you, why didn't you say "what the f'k are you all talking about?"

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:40 PM (zYzxT)

575 Of course women fart. And sometimes quite loudly.

I know this because my girlfriend let out a ringer and then asked, "Are farts supposed to be lumpy?"

I rest my case.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 06, 2013 08:41 PM (BuSM8)

576 "That Girl's" opening:

http://youtu.be/Zoh1LGADKI8

Posted by: Phil Donthavaclue at January 06, 2013 08:41 PM (I88Jc)

577 AD you have done a public service tonight. I salute you

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:41 PM (Dnbau)

578 Blergh. When I left people were comparing La Perla to Trashy Lingerie. Now there's been a weird Reality Check appearance (is this guy the one who tried to start some Catholic vs. Protestant crap one time, calling people "prot" or something?) and people are speculating about Cynthia Chase, farts, and thongs---in the same damn sentence!

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 08:41 PM (b+8h9)

579 572
@ 569 AD
I never claimed to be new here. I just adopted the moniker Reality Check becasue I am not part of the echo chamber.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 07, 2013 12:39 AM (42ieH)

So, why did you adopt the monicker of a known troll, especially one completely averse to your views?

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:42 PM (zYzxT)

580 Also, why did you think you'd be the bad guy on a site that has a heavy libertarian bent?

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:42 PM (zYzxT)

581 Daddy, can you use the tb3k? Please, please PLEASE?!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 08:43 PM (YtMpu)

582 578 AD you have done a public service tonight. I salute you

Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:41 AM (Dnbau)

I try.

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:43 PM (zYzxT)

583 Jessica Simpson tweeted that pregnant women fart all the time! I have no idea why she felted compelled to share that

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:43 PM (Dnbau)

584 Lingerie

http://tinyurl.com/ab8k4jb

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:43 PM (GsoHv)

585 Knew a chick that could almost play "Scrapple From the Apple" after eating pizza. She was a bit flat on the high C

Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 08:43 PM (dmEoV)

586 @ 575 AD

OK let me clear, I AM NOT THAT REALITY CHECK! I have been here before and have clashed with others, but not under that name.

I hope this clears it up for you.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 08:43 PM (42ieH)

587 More lingerie

http://tinyurl.com/ba24kqa

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:44 PM (GsoHv)

588 One of the great things, and there really aren't that many, about living alone is that you may burp and fart without having to be all ladylike and say "pardon me!" Another great thing is to fart so loudly that your pet birds start chirping like they're scared for their lives.

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 08:44 PM (u96Iy)

589 I think he doth protest too much

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:44 PM (Dnbau)

590 @ 581 AD

This blog does not have a Libertarian bent. ACe does, but most of the commentators here are hardcore Socons or Neocons. I respect Ace and think he does great work. But like other Conservative blogs, the Socons run his place.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 08:45 PM (42ieH)

591 Mitch McConnell's face looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy after losing 200 pounds. His jowls deserve their own zip code.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 08:45 PM (ccXZP)

592 "That Girl's" opening:

Why did I assume this would be pron?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 06, 2013 08:46 PM (xKC/c)

593

Berkeley has gotten seedier, if that is possible.

The Ave, seedier? I thought it was in the ground state of seediness back in the day.

Now? I have no interest.

Me either. Zero. Zip.

A great university, perhaps the greatest in our history, driven into the gutter by political correctness and the statist aspirations of a series of awful governors, presidents and chancellors.

In fairness, it would be tough to change the course of the university, which has been leftist-infested from back when. But now that the fiscal chickens are coming home to roost, they're shamelessly indulging in fraud. They're bringing in out of state/country students, who pay the full fare and are able, and giving away places to politically favored types to pursue whatever they pursue in the intellectual sandboxes they call departments. The hope is that the ability of the former will mask the stupidity and incompetence of the latter, so that for a while "Berkeley graduate" won't be a term people say with derision; at least until people figure this out.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:46 PM (DXlwL)

594

Troll admits he's a troll.

Get lost kilgore.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 08:46 PM (GULKT)

595 579 Blergh. When I left people were comparing La Perla to Trashy Lingerie. Hey Jennie, la perla may accommodate your tiny tittehs, but not my 38dd, so go stuff your bra.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 08:46 PM (YtMpu)

596 "The horse that farts will never tire.
The man who farts is the man to hire."

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 08:46 PM (1V6Pv)

597 @ 592 GnuBreed

He's a senile useless RINO. The Republicans needs new leadership in the Senate.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 08:47 PM (42ieH)

598 OK let me clear, I AM NOT THAT REALITY CHECK! I have been here before and have clashed with others, but not under that name.

I hope this clears it up for you.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 07, 2013 12:43 AM (42ieH)

Not really.

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:47 PM (zYzxT)

599 Posted by: Frog Brigade at January 07, 2013 12:14 AM (Vk2pI) Who are you? I lived in Barrington for almost two years. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2013 12:19 AM (GsoHv) Just a figment of your imagination...

Posted by: A voice in your head at January 06, 2013 08:47 PM (Vk2pI)

600 Posted by: Reality Based at January 07, 2013 12:45 AM (42ieH)

1. Odd.
2. Amusing.
3. Irritating (briefly).
4. Boring.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:47 PM (GsoHv)

601 John Sheardown, Canadian hero of Tehran hostage crisis, dies aged 88 Diplomat who sheltered Americans, but whose role in drama was cut from hit film Argo, passes away in Ottawa hospital This was a very brave man. His contributions were erased by hollywood but to be honest, he was such a fine man, he prolly didn't give a shit.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:47 PM (l86i3)

602

577"That Girl's" opening:

No way I'm clicking on a link with that descriptor.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:48 PM (DXlwL)

603 @ 595 buzzion

Want to have a debate on intervening in Syria? Thought so!

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 08:48 PM (42ieH)

604 Just a figment of your imagination...

Posted by: A voice in your head at January 07, 2013 12:47 AM (Vk2pI)

1/81-5/82

How about you? Or did you just buy dope there?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:48 PM (GsoHv)

605 Who's behind that curtain, Dorothy? The great and powerful Oz!

Posted by: Vast Joo Conspiracy, VajCo at January 06, 2013 08:48 PM (I88Jc)

606 Young women who believe they'll need the love piston
Will do well to seek the man who ejects burps and fats simultaneously.
He has the inner balance she seeks.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 08:48 PM (1V6Pv)

607 I raise a glass to Mr Sheardown, thanks OSP

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:48 PM (Dnbau)

608 @ 599 AD
Then I can't help you.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (42ieH)

609

Absolutely. I went to school just down the road from you, and I am tempted to pay a visit.

Do they serve beer in your town?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2013 12:39 AM (GsoHv)

Absolutely, and the first round is on me. I'm in SoCal now.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (DXlwL)

610 Gee, I'd like to be an abolitionist although I won't because my detractors could then label me a theocrat. Posted by: John Brown at January 07, 2013 12:22 AM (I88Jc) Good choice!

Posted by: Jefferson Davis at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (Vk2pI)

611 577"That Girl's" opening:

No way I'm clicking on a link with that descriptor.

I did, expecting the ~~best~~ worst, it's totally SFW.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (xKC/c)

612 101 Okay, if Romney is not a Satan worshipper, why did he (and Hunstman) embrace the homosexual agenda with open arms? Everyone agrees they are strongly committed to Mormonism, so why does that glaring contradiction exist?

Posted by: Reality Check at September 24, 2012 01:44 PM (ELEDJ)

So uh, 'Reality Based', what are your thoughts on homosexuals and Masons?

Posted by: Mætenloch at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (XkotV)

613 Posted by: Reality Based at January 07, 2013 12:43 AM (42ieH)

BTW, I would ask you what monickers and when, but seeing as you're apparently posting from different computers in the same thread, that wouldn't really clear anything up now would it? Why would you do that out of curiosity?

Posted by: AD at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (zYzxT)

614 604 @ 595 buzzion

Want to have a debate on intervening in Syria? Thought so!

Posted by: Reality Based at January 07, 2013 12:48 AM (42ieH)

Stealing from more horses barns I see. Admit the other names you have posted on and sure I'll have your silly little debate.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (GULKT)

615 Some nice lingerie.

http://tinyurl.com/3bakck3

Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 08:50 PM (Zd/NW)

616 1/81-5/82 How about you? Or did you just buy dope there? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2013 12:48 AM (GsoHv) Just listen to Les Claypool...

Posted by: A voice in Les Claypool's head at January 06, 2013 08:50 PM (Vk2pI)

617 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 12:46 AM (DXlwL)

The hard sciences (physics, chemistry, math, and some engineering) seemed to be resisting this, but even when I was there the biological sciences were becoming ridiculously pc. And everything else was on a steep and slippery slope.

How are the sciences now?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:50 PM (GsoHv)

618 "Another great thing is to fart so loudly that your pet birds start chirping like they're scared for their lives."

You simply have not met the right mate. My spouse farts so loudly that I occasionally awaken to think that I am under artillery barrage.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2013 08:51 PM (BzGtc)

619 616 Some nice lingerie.

Bastard.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 06, 2013 08:51 PM (xKC/c)

620 Hey Jennie, la perla may accommodate your tiny tittehs, but not my 38dd, so go stuff your bra. ----- Thank you! *sits back, waits patiently for the morons to request pics so that so lingerie chat may resume* It's actually my tiny wallet that's a problem with la perla. And I was told that the IBTC meetings were anonymous!

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 08:51 PM (b+8h9)

621 Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 07, 2013 12:50 AM (Zd/NW)

That is beyond the pale.

Have you no shame?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:52 PM (GsoHv)

622 Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 07, 2013 12:50 AM (Zd/NW) I knew better. But in that pic. Doesn't Rosie look a little like Monica Lewinsky?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:52 PM (l86i3)

623 did the communists have porn? Has that been explored? I mean sure, since the collapse of the Soviet Union there is a ton of it, but what about before? Was there Soviet Porn? Was it sponsored by the state. Probably was black market. Any takers? Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:24 AM (Dnbau) In Soviet Russia, porn faps to you! And then you die in a gulag...

Posted by: Trotsky was a Transvestite at January 06, 2013 08:53 PM (Vk2pI)

624 Want to have a debate on intervening in Syria?

To what end? So Obama can install another radical Islamist regime? That would certainly be full of win.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 06, 2013 08:53 PM (iHs4Z)

625 is it Rosie in the leather bustier in the film "East of Eden"?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:53 PM (Dnbau)

626 Posted by: A voice in your head at January 07, 2013 12:47 AM (Vk2pI) Don't steal my role!

Posted by: Azariah Kyras at January 06, 2013 08:53 PM (SOGo4)

627 Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 07, 2013 12:51 AM (b+8h9)

La Perla is overpriced. There are better quality brands out there.

And I speak from experience. I am the lingerie buyer in the Dildo house.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:53 PM (GsoHv)

628 Is Real Cheek an agent of the Iranian Guard?
They lose in:
anti-theocracy
Syrian intervention
Iranian Guard or yer basic Commie-fag-junkie Complex, Cub Scout Kommando.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 08:54 PM (1V6Pv)

629

How are the sciences now?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2013 12:50 AM (GsoHv)

Frankly, I don't really know, because I try to avoid things that piss me off. I would expect the hard sciences to be the Alamo of the place, just because they're rooted in reality. But in fairness even many faculty in the hard sciences are pretty lefty, one reason that I ultimately left academia.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:54 PM (DXlwL)

630 It's actually my tiny wallet that's a problem with la perla. And I was told that the IBTC meetings were anonymous! Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 07, 2013 12:51 AM (b+8h9) My wife buys that stuff in Europe. I figured it was expensive. She made me be careful taken it off.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:54 PM (l86i3)

631 My wife buys that stuff in Europe. I figured it was expensive. She made me be careful taken it off.

She let you put it on? 0.o

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 06, 2013 08:55 PM (xKC/c)

632 Have you no shame?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2013 12:52 AM (GsoHv)

No I don't.

When people ask me "how do you sleep at night"?, I usually answer "on my side".

Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 08:55 PM (Zd/NW)

633 My wife buys that stuff in Europe. I figured it was expensive. She made me be careful taken it off. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 07, 2013 12:54 AM (l86i3) Of her, Off of her.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:55 PM (l86i3)

634 Too Late.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:56 PM (l86i3)

635 As far as most universities go, and as much as it pains me, I say Rubble. Not a one of them is worth the money poured into them. They chose sides and have become the enemy to me. My Grandmother taught university courses, and it was important to me to go, but it's not what it was. I can't imagine a more destructive force than what they have become. Bulldoze them all and reboot. Same applies to almost all federal institutions. Let... It... Burn.

Can we have more lingerie now please?

Posted by: BoGart at January 06, 2013 08:56 PM (Ugngr)

636 since AD's and Maet's detective work, playing with AC is like "pistol whipping a blind kid" to quote Tropic Thunder. If only he would go away

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:56 PM (Dnbau)

637 @ 613 MÃ¦tenloch

That is NOT me! I actually supported and contributed to Huntsman's campaign.

As for Homosexuals, I don't care what they do behind closed doors. I am not a Socon so Gays are not a concern of mine.

On Masons, it's harmelss social club like an Elks Lodge.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 08:56 PM (42ieH)

638 did the communists have porn?

When your TV only gets one channel, that might be difficult.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 06, 2013 08:56 PM (iHs4Z)

639 Navybrat, my ex was exceedingly fond of the dutch oven technique. His farts were usually silent and I only knew he'd farted when the covers went up over my head so that I could "bask" in the aroma.

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 08:57 PM (u96Iy)

640 @ 629 Thorvald
It appears you are a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and AL-Qaeda. You want to establish another Islamic state in the Mideast.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 08:57 PM (42ieH)

641 Of her, Off of her.

OK, I can now put down the gallon jug of brain bleach.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 06, 2013 08:58 PM (xKC/c)

642 banhammer?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:58 PM (Dnbau)

643 Jenny, can I attend the IBTC meetings as an observer/worshiper?

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 08:58 PM (1V6Pv)

644 @ 625 @PurpAv

I'm glad to meet a Conservati8ve who gets it! The sad part is the Republican Party is pushing for war in Syria. They will support Obama's next adventure.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 08:59 PM (42ieH)

645 Oh look the troll doesn't want to admit what other names it has used. Probably because it knows its been banned before.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 08:59 PM (GULKT)

646 banhammer? Posted by: Thunderb at January 07, 2013 12:58 AM (Dnbau) Maybe a few hundred posts ago. Then someone new comes along and feeds it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 08:59 PM (l86i3)

647

As far as most universities go, and as much as it pains me, I say Rubble. Not a one of them is worth the money poured into them. They chose sides and have become the enemy to me.

As a former faculty member, I feel the same way. The universities are part of the problem, because they're Red infested. Online education may be part of the solution.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:59 PM (DXlwL)

648 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 12:54 AM (DXlwL)

That is my hope, but it is based on not very much data and a lot of praying.

I see the piss-poor science education that my brats got in their expensive suburban high school, and I am pessimistic about this country's chances at any sort of basic research in 20 years.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 08:59 PM (GsoHv)

649 My wife buys that stuff in Europe. I figured it was expensive. She made me be careful taken it off. ---- That's the thing...I like pretty things as much as anyone else but paying la perla prices would about kill me, "frugal" (read: tightwad) as I am. If I'm paying that much for something, I'm wearing it all the damn time and not letting anyone touch it...which tends to give husband a sad face.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 08:59 PM (b+8h9)

650 inspector? wouldn't want those larger busted gals infiltrating

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 08:59 PM (Dnbau)

651 The Communists of the USSR were a bit strict to the casual observer as regards porn, drugs and other forms of moral decadence. They tended to deal with them harshly. Gulag. Bullet in the brain, dead in a ditch, whatever, nothing good was coming of any of it.

What the higher ups had access to, the party bosses, who knows.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2013 08:59 PM (BzGtc)

652 @ 643 Thunderb

Kill the heretic!

Feel better about yourself?

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 09:00 PM (42ieH)

653 @ 646 buzzion
I see you dodged my debate challenge coward.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 09:01 PM (42ieH)

654 (voluntarily climbs into the barrel for engaging the troll)

Man, I sure hope tonight's barrel menu isn't Helen Thomas again.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 09:01 PM (ccXZP)

655 how dreary

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 09:01 PM (Dnbau)

656 So, it sounds like the Oregon State coach just wanted to fly to Ohio and Pennsylvania for some reason. OK, the Philly Cheese Steak I get, but what's the food that Ohio has to offer? <She commented, trying to change the subject from the idiotic troll...>

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM (u96Iy)

657 Put the sharp sticks down and click on this...it's more pleasant.

http://tinyurl.com/b9t2c9b

Or this

http://tinyurl.com/bkj6dc2

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 09:03 PM (GsoHv)

658 Man, I sure hope tonight's barrel menu isn't Helen Thomas again. ------ Surprise!

Posted by: Cynthia Chase at January 06, 2013 09:03 PM (b+8h9)

659 they have Steak and Shakes in Oho?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 09:03 PM (Dnbau)

660

I see the piss-poor science education that my brats got in their expensive suburban high school, and I am pessimistic about this country's chances at any sort of basic research in 20 years.

Yeah, me too. Sound research in the real sciences is anathema to the commies, because once you start using empiricism, you see their whole system is unworkable.

This'll piss you off. One of the little Guevaras was shown "The Story of Stuff" (Google it; it's easy to find) in his fucking science class. Straight up communist agitprop, totally devoid of any scientific content or merit whatsoever.

I'd have gone to his school and raised holy hell, but for potentially putting little Jay on the spot Mrs. Guevara would have cut off some bits of me that I cherish very much.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 09:03 PM (DXlwL)

661 I'm out for tonight. I have to go work in the morning to support the Obama loving leeches.

I'll be back to take on the Islamic loving Neocon-Socon Axis of evil that has hijacked the Republican Party on the behest of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 06, 2013 09:04 PM (42ieH)

662 654 @ 646 buzzion
I see you dodged my debate challenge coward.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 07, 2013 01:01 AM (42ieH)

I already told you to admit your names and I'll happily engage your debate you pathetic simpleton. But I knew you don't have the guts to do it because that will be admitting you are a banned troll.

So I'll laugh at you for that rather than your joke of a "debate" you horse bed thief.

Man up chickenshit. Who have you posted as?

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 09:04 PM (GULKT)

663 The Republican party is, and always will be a party of activism. Since its inception the Republican party is about using force to achieve moral gains. At least that is the way it used to be. The Libertarians will still be sitting on the sidelines wondering what the fuck just happened while the Republicans will be marching on to their goals.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2013 09:04 PM (BzGtc)

664 This blog does not have a Libertarian bent. ACe does, but most of the commentators here are hardcore Socons or Neocons. I respect Ace and think he does great work. But like other Conservative blogs, the Socons run his place.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 07, 2013 12:45 AM (42ieH)

I'm glad to meet a Conservati8ve who gets it! The sad part is the Republican Party is pushing for war in Syria. They will support Obama's next adventure.

Posted by: Reality Based at January 07, 2013 12:59 AM (42ieH)

Strawman/rate per hour rate exceeded - CHECK

Cumulative TB3K score: 93

[TB3K activated]

Posted by: Mætenloch at January 06, 2013 09:04 PM (XkotV)

665 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo Yowza, #1 could put an eye out.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 09:05 PM (YtMpu)

666 thank you

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 09:05 PM (Dnbau)

667 Surprise!

Posted by: Cynthia Chase at January 07, 2013 01:03 AM (b+8h9)

Sigh. Alright, come here and let me soap your back for you.

One condition. Do not turn around. I mean it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 09:06 PM (ccXZP)

668 Its pretty pointless to activate the TB3K after they've already left. Especially when it was obvious what they were 2 hours ago.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 09:06 PM (GULKT)

669 I'd have gone to his school and raised holy hell, but for potentially putting little Jay on the spot Mrs. Guevara would have cut off some bits of me that I cherish very much. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 01:03 AM (DXlwL) You need to at least reveal what utter useless jackasses they are to your kid, so they know they're being lied to daily. At which point they will rightly wonder why they are there. John Taylor Gatto said that if our public education system had been imposed on us from outside, it would be rightly viewed as an act of war. And that's really not a description far off from what actually happened, and almost everybody just sits back and takes it. Drives me freaking bonkers. I was such a troublemaker in school because I knew it was horseshit, my parents had me away from it when they could, but couldn't afford it most of the time. They at least told me how much of it was crap (most).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 09:07 PM (bxiXv)

670 "The Story of Stuff"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 01:03 AM (DXlwL)

Thanks for making a really shitty night (not your fault) even shittier.

This is farther along the arc than some of the stuff our brats were exposed to, but not much.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 09:07 PM (GsoHv)

671 yes but he promised to leave before, twice IIRC, but kept coming back

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 09:07 PM (Dnbau)

672 I died for your sins--er, social consciousness.

Posted by: Charlie Crist, dashboard savior at January 06, 2013 09:07 PM (I88Jc)

673 640 Navybrat, my ex was exceedingly fond of the dutch oven technique. His farts were usually silent and I only knew he'd farted when the covers went up over my head so that I could "bask" in the aroma.

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 07, 2013 12:57 AM (u96Iy)

And he's an ex.....surprise, surprise.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 09:09 PM (kaalw)

674 Inverted.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/auwtvye

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 09:09 PM (1V6Pv)

675 Wowza! Radical renumbering!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 09:09 PM (kaalw)

676 Good night all.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 06, 2013 09:09 PM (l86i3)

677 Immature intellects gravitate to two types of philosophy. One is tell me what to do so I don't have to undergo the hard work to decide for myself (the Obama/self esteem school) and the other is I want absolute freedom to continue to not have consequences for my thoughts and actions (the nouveau Paulite/Reddit brigade). The LP in particular is overrun with the second group now. Legalize it, same sex marriage, abortion on demand. The new breed of libertarian is almost an anathema to traditional ideas of economic liberty and individual freedom. They have no qualms about granting the state more power in order to grant "new" freedoms like gay marriage or marijuana legalization. The state cannot grant liberty just as it cannot grant private property but to the new hipster breed of libertarian it's about looking liberty minded regardless of state control. Traditional libertarianism and conservatism is focused on the individual and individual morality choices for the benefit to society and how the state can only detract from those and not add to them.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM (gkfSV)

678

You need to at least reveal what utter useless jackasses they are to your kid, so they know they're being lied to daily. At which point they will rightly wonder why they are there.

Oh yeah, I did that, in fact he thought so at the time, and told me about it.

I'm in a dilemma. I know what I believe (and my wife concurs), but I don't want to impose my views on my kids. Having said that, I think that my views are sound, and based on a realistic analysis, and so I hope my kids subscribe to them. At this point (teenagers) they do. I just hope that they do so because it's what they think, and that they're not just parroting what I think.

Does this make sense?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 09:11 PM (DXlwL)

679 please, impose your views on your kids. If you don't, someone else will

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2013 09:12 PM (Dnbau)

680 I just hope that they do so because it's what they think, and that they're not just parroting what I think.

Does this make sense?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 01:11 AM (DXlwL)

It seems like the best way to ensure that is not to merely expose them to what you think, but also the sources from which you gain your views from. Then when they express a thought you agree with but have never exposed them to personally you can be more certain its not merely a matter of parroting.

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2013 09:14 PM (GULKT)

681 "Now I lay me down to sleep...."

Posted by: Thorvald at January 06, 2013 09:15 PM (1V6Pv)

682

Thanks for making a really shitty night (not your fault) even shittier.

This is farther along the arc than some of the stuff our brats were exposed to, but not much.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2013 01:07 AM (GsoHv)

Sorry to do that to you, Charlie, but it's important to see just what shit kids are exposed to even in science class, where one might naively presume reality would get a look-in. But nope.

I almost stroked out when he told me about "The Story of Stuff," and I watched it. Complete, total, crystalline horseshit agitprop from beginning to end.

One of the infuriating aspects is that the "toxins" that stupid bitch talks about the evil companies putting into their products are flame retardants, which companies are legally required to put in, to keep children from being burnt to death in their sleep. But she neglects to mention that part.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 09:16 PM (DXlwL)

683 630 >> I'm in a dilemma. I know what I believe (and my wife concurs), butI don't want to impose my views on my kids.

Jay, I had the same internal debate and came to the conclusion 'They can always reject it, but I'd be a fool to not offer it'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 09:16 PM (ccXZP)

684 Does this make sense? Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 01:11 AM (DXlwL) Yes, and you should inform your kids while making clear ultimately it's up to them. I'm a lot more likely to trust you to do that, especially since you care about their free will. I certainly would trust you a lot more than some intellectually inbred unquestioning sheep-marxist public school teacher.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 09:18 PM (bxiXv)

685 Parting is such sweet sucking out of my bone's marrow.

"The Banana Splits'" opening and closing theme:

http://youtu.be/BEcKIf90qYU

Posted by: Jake Shake-spear, soda jerk at January 06, 2013 09:19 PM (I88Jc)

686 630
You need to at least reveal what utter useless jackasses they are to your kid, so they know they're being lied to daily. At which point they will rightly wonder why they are there.

Oh yeah, I did that, in fact he thought so at the time, and told me about it.

I'm in a dilemma. I know what I believe (and my wife concurs), butI don't want to impose my views on my kids. Having said that, I think that my views are sound, and based on a realistic analysis, and so I hope my kids subscribe to them. At this point (teenagers) they do. I just hope that they do so because it's what they think, and that they're not just parroting what I think.

Does this make sense?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 01:11 AM (DXlwL)

One of my dearest friends -- and mother of the godchildren beloved by the BH and I -- is a reflexive lib. As in, whatever the MSM says is gospel, and the Dems are for all that is right and good.....and when there are facts to the contrary, "la, la, la, la, la -- I can't hear you!"

And, yet, she trusts us with their kids. We've tried to be reasonably subversive -- but only having a couple of weekends a year, there's only so much you can do. But we have hope, if only in that we break the stereotypes.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 09:19 PM (kaalw)

687

It seems like the best way to ensure that is not to merely expose them to what you think, but also the sources from which you gain your views from.

Posted by: buzzion at January 07, 2013 01:14 AM (GULKT)

I do that, and also make the argument for the other side, and honestly try to make the best argument for the other side that I can, and point out where and why I think it is deficient. I also preface my remarks by saying that they'll have to make up their own minds. I not only believe that, but think that it's important to acknowledge explicitly. I don't want them, as part of adolescent rebellion, to apply an inversion operator to everything I believe, but rather to think their own way through things.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 09:20 PM (DXlwL)

688 630 It makes sense, but it's retarded. Why would you not try to impose your beliefs on your children? That's what leaders do- they HAVE to. You're creating a void in their lives that their teachers and tv will be glad to fill. The vast majorioty of teachers don't share your reluctance, I assure you

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:21 PM (XDC0v)

689 Fuck, we get rid of one and another almost immediately takes its place. Obviously it's time to give up & go sleepies. Nighty night.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 06, 2013 09:23 PM (YtMpu)

690 But she neglects to mention that part. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 01:16 AM (DXlwL) Or that the 33% of the US that's forested is only 4% of the forests we had before we got here... wait, what? The US was 825% forested before we arrived? It's always the way with marxists. If they tell the truth, they look like idiots, so they have to lie. They still show "an ignorant dumbfuck..." sorry, "an inconvenient truth" in some schools despite the increasing number of errors (more likely lies) that have been documented. They don't care, "the cold, dark heart of collectivism wants what it wants."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 09:23 PM (bxiXv)

691

W.T??

There is a smell about the ONT tonight, not really keen on up-threading to find the origin....think I'll work on book or the thought of book.

Night all......

Posted by: Richard at January 06, 2013 09:23 PM (CbqLc)

692 632 I just hope that they do so because it's what they think, and that they're not just parroting what I think.Does this make sense?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 01:11 AM (DXlwL)

It seems like the best way to ensure that is not to merely expose them to what you think, but also the sources from which you gain your views from.

Posted by: buzzion at January 07, 2013 01:14 AM (GULKT)

Makes perfect sense to me and that's a hard one. I have two sons. Completely different personality wise. One is a rebellious little pain in the ass (like me), who has grown to be quite independent minded, I'll make my mind up for myself type. No way, the BS from school is going to sway him. MAJOR arguments with me, which after I cool down I think is pretty cool. The other one tells me what I want to hear, and I can never be sure of where he's coming from. Same house, same exposure. It comes down to more than what you personally do. I think the best you can do is use your judgement and go with your gut as it happens. The rest isn't in your hands.

Posted by: BoGart at January 06, 2013 09:24 PM (Ugngr)

693 Whoa! Time just got turned back on the ONT! Be that as it may, time for me to get some sleep. Good night, my lovelies, sleep sweet, tomorrow is another day to continue the fight against the coming apocalypse!

Posted by: Theresa (D) at January 06, 2013 09:24 PM (u96Iy)

694 I don't want them, as part of adolescent rebellion, to apply an inversion operator to everything I believe, but rather to think their own way through things. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 01:20 AM (DXlwL) Teach the process. How you come to conclusions, how to find information, how to determine if it's real information of propaganda - and how much of a pain in the ass the latter process can be. Most people never bother, they just take the word of whatever celebrity they "trust." Kind of why we're in such deep caca.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 09:26 PM (bxiXv)

695 Dang - I was just about to tell Theresa (D) thanks for the LOL above ... Oh Well. G'night, Theresa ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 09:26 PM (TvO05)

696 Im out as well. back to work for the first time since the holidays for me. Later all.

Posted by: BoGart at January 06, 2013 09:27 PM (Ugngr)

697 Happy 12th Day of Christmas to the Horde & all ye' Drummers out there ... The lights come down tomorrow ... no more bubble lights for another year ... availability of electricity assumed ... no more twinkling stars ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 09:28 PM (TvO05)

698 "Be that as it may" = "It is what it is" = copyright infringement!

Posted by: Jake Shake-spear, soda jerk at January 06, 2013 09:28 PM (I88Jc)

699 G'night, BoGart ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 09:29 PM (TvO05)

700 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 01:11 AM (DXlwL) -------- The best thing is to expose kids to lots of different viewpoints and then get them to talk about it...not so much listen to the adults' opinions but sort of think out loud while you or other adults ask solid-but-not-confrontational questions with good follow-up. "Why do you think XYZ Corp puts chemicals in the water? What would they gain from that? Why would they want to poison people who they depend on to buy their products?" You're basically helping him get to the right conclusion on his own, that way, and it sticks better.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 09:29 PM (b+8h9)

701 "Be that as it may" = "It is what it is" = copyright infringement! "Be that what I want it to be" = "It is what we say it is" = Democratic politics ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 09:30 PM (TvO05)

702 skimming up abunch of posts is this a parenting blog now?

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 06, 2013 09:31 PM (jfSqj)

703

It makes sense, but it's retarded. Why would you not try to impose your beliefs on your children? That's what leaders do- they HAVE to. You're creating a void in their lives that their teachers and tv will be glad to fill. The vast majorioty of teachers don't share your reluctance, I assure you

Posted by: DAve at January 07, 2013 01:21 AM (XDC0v)

Dave, here's my reasoning. Any value system that's imposed can be rejected without thought because it wasn't thought through in the first place. People who have any spirit tend to resent having anything imposed on them, so even if the kids would otherwise have reached the same conclusions, my having forced them on them will make those conclusions anathema to them (at least until they're > 30 or so), because such imposition essentially denies one's personhood.

For these reasons, I'd much rather that they draw their own conclusions. This also serves as a check on my reasoning; maybe I'm wrong. If you think so, tell me why, with substantiation. I doubt that I'm wrong, but always try to make room for the possibility.

Partly as a function of this approach, and partly because they've inherited my intrinsic gnarliness, my kids are pretty much proof against anyone telling them what to think. So I don't worry too much about commie teachers turning their heads. They've had several try, and they come home laughing about it.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 09:32 PM (DXlwL)

704 Teaching children is very different than teaching adults. Most of the strategies suggested here have been more oriented towards teaching adults.

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:33 PM (XDC0v)

705 is this a parenting blog now? ---- Well, we talked about lingerie, a tantrum was had and spanking administered. So, maybe.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 09:34 PM (b+8h9)

706 Any value system that's imposed can be rejected without thought because it wasn't thought through in the first place. Unfortunately, this includes not telling anyone whether your child is a boy or girl since that would not allow the child to decide for him/her/its self ... reducto something something absurdium ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 09:37 PM (TvO05)

707 "Teaching children is very different than teaching adults..."

Children don't respond to sexual favors...yet.

Posted by: Deborah LaFavor, Ed.D. at January 06, 2013 09:37 PM (I88Jc)

708 655 Yeah, but if you believe that it's impossible that you believe that beliefs even CAN be forced on children. I tend to doubt that hardly anything we believe is something we're really reasoned into. You can't expect the young and naive to come to the same conclusions that age and experience have brought us to when presented with the same information or data.

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:38 PM (XDC0v)

709

Teach the process. How you come to conclusions, how to find information, how to determine if it's real information of propaganda - and how much of a pain in the ass the latter process can be.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 07, 2013 01:26 AM (bxiXv)

That's exactly what I do, or at least try to. I'm a scientist, and teach scientific method. "Let's look at the competing hypotheses. If environmentalists were truly concerned about the environment, they'd be worried about Chinese emissions of CO2, right? After all, CO2 is CO2, right? Whereas if they were commies merely trying to hobble the American economy, they wouldn't care about Chinese CO2, but only American CO2, right? So ... which hypothesis allows one to predict environmentalists' take on events?"

I use this method because ... it's the one I use myself.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 09:38 PM (DXlwL)

710 656 Teaching children is very different than teaching adults. Most of the strategies suggested here have been more oriented towards teaching adults. ----------- We're talking teens, so a little adult-focused teaching makes a lot of sense.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 09:38 PM (b+8h9)

711 Children don't respond to sexual favors...yet. Posted by: Deborah LaFavor, Ed.D. at January 07, 2013 01:37 AM (I88Jc) O Rly?

Posted by: Roman Polanski at January 06, 2013 09:38 PM (Vk2pI)

712 what, I missed the spanking?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:39 PM (BBWjt)

713 the moment has arrived

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:39 PM (BBWjt)

714 WORSHIP ZUUL

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:39 PM (BBWjt)

715

is this a parenting blog now?

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 07, 2013 01:31 AM (jfSqj)

Yeah, pretty much. My bad. But we need to fight the rot in the educational system, which is how we got onto this.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 09:39 PM (DXlwL)

716 what, I missed the spanking? Posted by: chemjeff at January 07, 2013 01:39 AM (BBWjt) A spanking! A spanking!

Posted by: Zoot and Dingo at January 06, 2013 09:40 PM (Vk2pI)

717 Refusing to impose restraints and values on your children is refusing to raise them.

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:40 PM (XDC0v)

718 Roman Polanski at January 07, 2013 01:38 AM (Vk2pI) Yes, RLY! They do respond to a smaller dosage of quaaludes though ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 09:40 PM (TvO05)

719 Hello?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 09:40 PM (kaalw)

720 hi cthulhu

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:41 PM (BBWjt)

721 is this a parenting blog now? Posted by: Jake in ID at January 07, 2013 01:31 AM (jfSqj) Yeah, pretty much. My bad. But we need to fight the rot in the educational system, which is how we got onto this. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 07, 2013 01:39 AM (DXlwL) What we need to do is collect all the instanced of indoctrination and present it without commentary. Also provide the primary evidence to disprove it, also without commentary.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2013 09:41 PM (Vk2pI)

722 661 If that's how you increase your raising (attempts to influence towards the good) of your children, it's a good system

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:42 PM (XDC0v)

723 Chemjeff does the number LIKE A BOSS!

Hey, CJ, how're things with TV?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 09:42 PM (kaalw)

724 cthulhu things are okay, I watched a movie at her place tonite

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:43 PM (BBWjt)

725 669 Refusing to impose restraints and values on your children is refusing to raise them. ----- Well, sure...but there's establishing values and there's demanding conformity. It's a hard line, sometimes.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 09:43 PM (b+8h9)

726

Refusing to impose restraints and values on your children is refusing to raise them.

I'm not imposing values, but rather leading them to them. I want the values to be the kids', to be sourced from within them, and not just regurgitated versions of what I believe.

They're great kids, and this approach has (so far) worked well. Our older son is more conservative than I am, and I'm to the right of Genghis Khan.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 09:43 PM (DXlwL)

727 678 That's very good news- keep it up!!!

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:44 PM (XDC0v)

728 676 cthulhu things are okay, I watched a movie at her place tonite

Posted by: chemjeff at January 07, 2013 01:43 AM (BBWjt)

Is that what kids are calling it, these days?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 09:45 PM (kaalw)

729

If that's how you increase your raising (attempts to influence towards the good) of your children, it's a good system

Posted by: DAve at January 07, 2013 01:42 AM (XDC0v)

Thanks. It's what I used to do with my grad students. It's basically how I think, so it comes naturally to me, and would be hard to do differently.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 09:46 PM (DXlwL)

730 Which movie though?

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:46 PM (XDC0v)

731 Jay - Years ago, I had 6 theories on child raising and no children; now, I have 6 children and no theories. Best of luck to you and your family ... {The 6/0 thing is a quote from some one. I wasn't able to carry to term ...}

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 09:46 PM (TvO05)

732 Earlier the Cork Master tested the containment field, and now New York must contend with a Gate Keeper?

Posted by: Harold Ramis' School of Method Acting at January 06, 2013 09:46 PM (I88Jc)

733 682 Which movie though?

Posted by: DAve at January 07, 2013 01:46 AM (XDC0v)

Did you two act along with any scenes?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 09:47 PM (kaalw)

734 chemjeff - happy movie watching. We got Looper on DVD but haven't seen it yet. Picked up Sin City in the used rack and watched parts ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 09:48 PM (TvO05)

735 CJ, I'm in awe. That was pretty masterful

Posted by: zeera at January 06, 2013 09:49 PM (3dXwx)

736 683 Jay -

Years ago, I had 6 theories on child raising and no children; now, I have 6 children and no theories. Best of luck to you and your family ...

{The 6/0 thing is a quote from some one. I wasn't able to carry to term ...}

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 07, 2013 01:46 AM (TvO05)

Adriane!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 09:49 PM (kaalw)

737 Hey chemjeff,

I saw a thumbs up from a chemjeff on a Slate article comment a couple of days ago.

Was that you, are is there another chemjeff on the web?

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 09:49 PM (ccXZP)

738 Happy New Year, elder god ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 09:50 PM (TvO05)

739

That's very good news- keep it up!!!

Posted by: DAve at January 07, 2013 01:44 AM (XDC0v)

Thanks, Dave!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 09:50 PM (DXlwL)

740 which movie?
was I supposed to pay attention to the movie?

actually I forget the name, but it was some thriller with Susan Sarandon

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:51 PM (BBWjt)

741 Did the communists have porn in soviet russia?

Yes. Shot putters posed on tractor cabs. (shudder)

And the shot putters were a bit....hairy....iykwimaityd

Posted by: Pentangle at January 06, 2013 09:51 PM (P6+RG)

742 690 Happy New Year, elder god ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 07, 2013 01:50 AM (TvO05)

Happy New Year to you, as well. May you always be able to find the stuff you need at Home Depot, even if its location makes no freakin' sense at all.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 09:51 PM (kaalw)

743

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 07, 2013 01:49 AM (ccXZP)

yeah I have been trolling at Slate recently, it's because I've been procrastinating mainly

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:51 PM (BBWjt)

744 there very well may be another chemjeff on the web though.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:52 PM (BBWjt)

745 691 So are you suggesting teaching grad students like children or teaching children like grad students???

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:52 PM (XDC0v)

746 Happy New Year to you, as well. May you always be able to find the stuff you need at Home Depot, even if its location makes no freakin' sense at all.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 07, 2013 01:51 AM (kaalw)

As an example, I just discovered yesterday that Lowe's have light bulbs situated far, far, far, far away from the electrical section. God alone knows why.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 09:53 PM (kaalw)

747 692 Thelma and Louise?

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:53 PM (XDC0v)

748 grad students are already taught like children... if they are the children of abusive alcoholic parents

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:54 PM (BBWjt)

749 As an example, I just discovered yesterday that Lowe's have light bulbs situated far, far, far, far away from the electrical section. God alone knows why. Dude ... EVERY BODY KNOWS that light bulbs don't need electricity ... they run on unicorn farts ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 09:54 PM (TvO05)

750 692 Bull Durham?

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:55 PM (XDC0v)

751 692 Rugrats in Paris?

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:55 PM (XDC0v)

752 well all my kids are under 5yo so I'm teaching then not to wack each other with light sabers or toy frying pans. but the end game is for them to think for themselves inside the Judeo-Christian/WESTERN way of thinking and for them to understand that liberal mush-headed thinking is not true

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 06, 2013 09:56 PM (jfSqj)

753 GnuBreed it is funny to read some of those comments at Slate though.
they think they are so totally smart and superior human beings, when they consistently and reliably fall into the same traps associated with the dynamics of any group, *and they are unable to even recognize it*. they live in an information bubble, but they don't know they live in an information bubble, even while they berate conservatives for living in their information bubble. it is quite amusing to watch.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:56 PM (BBWjt)

754 "Time Warp" from "Rocky Horror Picture Show":

http://youtu.be/a7W3LCEFMxs

Posted by: Tim Robbins' undescended scrotum at January 06, 2013 09:56 PM (I88Jc)

755

692 The Great Waldo Pepper?

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:56 PM (XDC0v)

756 I honestly don't remember the name of the movie, sorry DAve
it wasn't Thelma and Louise, I would have recognized that one

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 09:57 PM (BBWjt)

757 692 Yeah she was in Rocky Horror too

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:57 PM (XDC0v)

758 708 Sounds to me like you two had chemistry. Figures.

Posted by: DAve at January 06, 2013 09:59 PM (XDC0v)

759 well, I'm going to bed, going to the gym in the morning
good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2013 10:00 PM (BBWjt)

760

So are you suggesting teaching grad students like children or teaching children like grad students???

The difference between grad students and children isn't all that great. Amirite, chemjeff?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 10:01 PM (DXlwL)

761 701 As an example, I just discovered yesterday that Lowe's have light bulbs situated far, far, far, far away from the electrical section. God alone knows why.

Dude ...
EVERY BODY KNOWS that light bulbs don't need electricity ... they run on unicorn farts ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 07, 2013 01:54 AM (TvO05)

Yeah, and then I discovered that micro-spotlights (40W, about 2" across) have become ridiculously expensive in incandescent (like $6 each), and were marginally less ridiculous ($7) in halogen.

Every single time I shop light bulbs, it's like having my head applied to a microplane grater -- and I wish for Fred Upton to DIAF.....and another drop of poison falls into otherwise happy thoughts of Kate Upton.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 10:01 PM (kaalw)

762 Doesn't my legacy mean anything to you ingrates?!

http://youtu.be/m9We2XsVZfc

Posted by: Ray Parker, Jr. at January 06, 2013 10:02 PM (I88Jc)

763 so I'm teaching then not to wack each other with light sabers or toy frying pans. ---- Geesh. It's like you don't even want to raise them to be the new 3 Stooges. Seriously, when they're all under five, a day they don't destroy anything or injure anyone, it's a good day. I love my kids, and I love my nieces and nephews...but I came home from holiday gatherings of small kids and said "how in the hell did I ever survive having four kids under all five at the same damn time? What the hell was I thinking?"

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 10:02 PM (b+8h9)

764 cthulhu at January 07, 2013 02:01 AM (kaalw) Happy thoughts require neither lighting nor electricity ... at least that's what I keep telling myself until we can afford the back up generator ... hint, not any time soon ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 10:04 PM (TvO05)

765 I'mglad that every one is talking parenting, for I have to admit I have had my concerns about America. In fact, might turn them into a sci-fi book. For example, I had thought of a plot where our nilihistic young adults (of whatever age) of Hollywood, in their Progressive Puritanical Hitler Youth zeal combined with their hipster trendiness, would be tracking people via Internet monitoring and would so be offended at by a private citizen making anonymous comments that they considered not really outre but really a threat to their preferred political party (because they found out he was working on a business plan that would give him public appeal) that they left little coded comments here and there in movies, commercials, etc. so that if this "enemy of the state" ever popped up--even if he kept quiet on things political--they could expose him, saying "no buddy, we knew you all along, and are going to make sure you pay for disagreeing with us, and we know all your private secrets, so we will make sure the public never likes you." I don't know if I would be able to get the audience to suspend disbelief, though, to make the premise work. But It would be the new "Crucible" for the Technology age.

Posted by: B. at January 06, 2013 10:05 PM (PeX8d)

766 chemjeff, I don't think that Slate itself is a totally lost cause; they do occasionally have some writers that put some effort into their thoughts. It's a bit left leaning but not a Kos echo chamber for talking points.

I do like to look through the first 20 or so comments on articles I read as that gives a better idea of what their readership is like.

And that is how I spotted your nic there. You were supporting a right leaning comment.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 10:05 PM (ccXZP)

767 Crap. I bing'd Kate Upton to make sure I spelled everything right, and she's 30 years younger than I am. Thirty freakin' years.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 10:06 PM (kaalw)

768 Hahahaha, elder god's feeling his years!

Posted by: Zeus at January 06, 2013 10:08 PM (I88Jc)

769 Crap. I bing'd Kate Upton to make sure I spelled everything right, and she's 30 years younger than I am. Thirty freakin' years. Posted by: cthulhu at January 07, 2013 02:06 AM (kaalw) Hahahaha, elder god's feeling his years! Posted by: Zeus at January 07, 2013 02:08 AM (I88Jc) pikers ...

Posted by: Methusala at January 06, 2013 10:09 PM (TvO05)

770 720 Hahahaha, elder god's feeling his years!

Posted by: Zeus at January 07, 2013 02:08 AM (I88Jc)

My goddaughter is almost the same age.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 06, 2013 10:11 PM (kaalw)

771 did I ever survive having four kids under all five at the same damn time? What the hell was I thinking?" Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 07, 2013 02:02 AM (b+8h9) I understand how that is, any twins there?

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 06, 2013 10:11 PM (jfSqj)

772 Yes, twin boys and two girls. I'm probably a little crazy.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 10:14 PM (b+8h9)

773 Roses are red, Dang, I've got a new hash, Hope everyone is up to 2013, it is going to be quite the rash ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 10:14 PM (TvO05)

774 Thirty freakin' years. Posted by: cthulhu at January 07, 2013 02:06 AM (kaalw) boy that was a mistake, don't do that again Mila Kunis is only 22 years in age diff Cindy Crawford is only 6 diff math, I know how that works

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 06, 2013 10:16 PM (jfSqj)

775 Youth? Meh.

Posted by: Greek Copyright Infringement at January 06, 2013 10:17 PM (I88Jc)

776 Well Ben Browder is 1 1/3 years younger than !!!! He's thrilled, I'm sure ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 10:18 PM (TvO05)

777 Yes, twin boys and two girls. I'm probably a little crazy. Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 07, 2013 02:14 AM (b+8h9) For some reason I'm surrounded by a bunch of friends and coworkers that have twins my cousin has twin girls that are identical, they are about 4 and I can't tell then apart

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 06, 2013 10:19 PM (jfSqj)

778 For one last evening, The Christmas lights are bright, Taken them down tomorrow, But I still have a smile tonight ... Good night all ... Better tomorrows ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 06, 2013 10:25 PM (TvO05)

779 Wow, you guys have been busy tonight. I blame the bacon.

G'night.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 06, 2013 10:25 PM (7um7O)

780 I work with a lady who had a son, then 53 weeks later had identical twin daughters. The three of them are now in high school, but man-o-man does she have some interesting stories

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 06, 2013 10:25 PM (jfSqj)

781 Carl Douglas' "Kung Fu Fighting":

http://youtu.be/BwBKjK7Xik0

Posted by: dominor, dominari, dominatus sum delivers at January 06, 2013 10:26 PM (I88Jc)

782 out see all y'all who are in my computer screen tomorrow.

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 06, 2013 10:27 PM (jfSqj)

783 If you know what the Progressive left thinks about eduction reform: https://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/07/14-12 FAIL

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2013 10:31 PM (Vk2pI)

784 Posted by: Jake in ID at January 07, 2013 02:25 AM (jfSqj) ---- Oof, Irish triplets! I feel slightly better now. There's actually more twins being born right now than used to be, for some weird reason. There are kind of a lot in my kids' school, too.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 06, 2013 10:33 PM (b+8h9)

785

2 0 1 3

A "TESTING" year...and the question is....

Will we pass?

I'll leave you all with that to ponder prior to the sweet dreams that we all desire.

Now, Goodnight.

Posted by: Richard at January 06, 2013 10:37 PM (CbqLc)

786 A little public education mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=haDOUtJa4Io

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2013 10:38 PM (Vk2pI)

787 Sammy Davis, Jr.'s "I Gotta Be Me":

http://youtu.be/rbLlCxK0pHY

Posted by: Grade Inflation at January 06, 2013 10:40 PM (I88Jc)

788 Night all. Here is Alice Cooper with "School's Out" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBEcLxnXVAc

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2013 10:52 PM (Vk2pI)

789 Son of Sen Rand Paul arrested on the night he said he was thinking of running for the presidency, is this a joke?

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 10:55 PM (adaoe)

790 741 Son of Sen Rand Paul arrested on the night he said he was thinking of running for the presidency, is this a joke? Posted by: lou's a girl at January 07, 2013 02:55 AM (adaoe) More sort of the system protecting itself from a threat. I don't know that for sure, of course, But It's One More In A Long, Long String Of Amazing Coincidences.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 10:59 PM (bxiXv)

791 don't know that for sure, of course, But It's One More In A Long, Long String Of Amazing Coincidences.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 07, 2013 02:59 AM (bxiXv)

Ok I am a conspriacy theorist!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 11:00 PM (adaoe)

792 Anyone here think that Cynthia Chase looks like the Baron Harkonnen? That was my first thought.

Posted by: Jerry at January 06, 2013 11:04 PM (4SKYj)

793

Son of Sen Rand Paul arrested on the night he said he was thinking of running for the presidency, is this a joke?

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 07, 2013 02:55 AM (adaoe)

Or, he could on the odd chance, just be a 19 year old kid doing the stupid things 19 y/olds too. (I speak from experience)

Posted by: land of sky blue water at January 06, 2013 11:06 PM (JoIcn)

794 No uncle, I will not venture to see what was the "old man of the mountain" in your granite-colored shorts!

Posted by: Sting at January 06, 2013 11:08 PM (I88Jc)

795 Posted by: lou's a girl at January 07, 2013 02:55 AM (adaoe)
Or, he could on the odd chance, just be a 19 year old kid doing the stupid things 19 y/olds too. (I speak from experience)

Posted by: land of sky blue water at January 07, 2013 03:06 AM (JoIcn)

Oh ok so the day Rand Paul decides he might run for president, his son gets arrested, wtf, give me that lottery ticket, I am tired of being poor/middleclass/obamas bitch! What are the odds?

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 11:09 PM (adaoe)

796 Re: Sidebar "rickroll" device. So, only $189 for a device that will be stomped to pieces the first time you use it? Bargain!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 11:14 PM (bxiXv)

797

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 07, 2013 03:09 AM (adaoe)

I like a good conspiracy as much as the next guy. The fact he was met after the plane landed would've meant the flight crew would've called it in and asked for him to be met at the plane. Unless the captain happened to be a card carrying member of Obama's army, knew it was Rand Paul's son, and that Rand announced a possible candidacy.....I'll go with the much more likely possibility of a dumb kid being a dumb kid.

Posted by: land of sky blue water at January 06, 2013 11:16 PM (JoIcn)

798

Posted by: land of sky blue water at January 07, 2013 03:16 AM (JoIcn)

Bless your heart!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 06, 2013 11:17 PM (adaoe)

799 It's a non-story anyway. If the family doesn't really respond, it will go away. 90% of the public will hear a story like that and respond....meh.

Posted by: land of sky blue water at January 06, 2013 11:20 PM (JoIcn)

800 Rockwell's "Somebody's Watchin' Me":

http://youtu.be/7YvAYIJSSZY

[Waves to DHS with middle fingers]

Posted by: Paparizzo under the bed at January 06, 2013 11:30 PM (I88Jc)

801 751 It's a non-story anyway. If the family doesn't really respond, it will go away. 90% of the public will hear a story like that and respond....meh. Posted by: land of sky blue water at January 07, 2013 03:20 AM (JoIcn) KOS, DU, Slate, etc. won't, and that's where the MFM spends its indoctrination time. Not saying it really *is* a conspiracy, but if he does run, they will not shut up about it the whole time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 06, 2013 11:43 PM (bxiXv)

802

I can't sleep,

This is needed, this experiment called America. I do not want "THEM" to say it is over and a transformation...(SCFOAMF (sic) ) in his bestest assessment stands and says so. This is what makes me want to vomit on a nightly basis since Nov. 7th. 2012. That so many of my (not so fellow as so more just fucking plain fucked-in-the-head losers now) voted this abortion into another 4 years of just being well.... THE SCFOAMF?

The TEST indeed is coming this year.

We can choose to just lay down like dogs or....

We can inflict AMERICA upon them.

It's been done before with rather....STUNNING results....check yer history books. They have not....jus for the record.

Posted by: Richard at January 07, 2013 12:11 AM (CbqLc)

803 That enough people can wake up each day, both literally and figuratively, to correct their mistakes is a cosmic win.

Posted by: Don't Let The Bastards Grind You Down at January 07, 2013 12:28 AM (I88Jc)

804 I hear ya on the sleeping problems. Can't sleep, future will eat me.

Posted by: Cato at January 07, 2013 12:29 AM (xFGqN)

805

To be clear,

I mean to aflict AMERICA upon them the same way I would inflict a roach with the heel of my shoe....the way I would inflict a vermin commie with a bullet from my gun, the way I would inflict some muzzie with the blade of my knife...the way I would inflict most liberals with banishment to some barren wasteland with no Starbucks or wifi to listen to their beloved MSM with no T.V.....only organicaly pure soapboxes with which to hear them from

To be clear.....

Posted by: Richard at January 07, 2013 12:30 AM (CbqLc)

806 You could always use Rands son as a teaching moment, 19 year olds are adults - and shouldn't be on their parents health insurance.

Posted by: Plugs Biden at January 07, 2013 12:59 AM (LnQr8)

807 Left that old Biden sock on, sorry I know a women who married a guy who had a kid and twins, she promptly had triplets. She went from no kids, to six kids under six, in less then a year.

Posted by: Jean at January 07, 2013 01:07 AM (LnQr8)

808 I like Danville Va. Of course I would be alone there as well a this time of the morning. Time wake up the chickens, my dogs favorite thing to do

Posted by: Jean at January 07, 2013 01:11 AM (LnQr8)

809 Need the news thread up. Brennan to CIA today, according to Politico, along with Hagel for Defense.

Israel is in serious danger, if you ask me.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 07, 2013 02:50 AM (GoIUi)

810 Backwoods home magazine, is an excellant magazine for self reliance, and prepping. It's been around for quite a while.

Posted by: marine43 at January 07, 2013 03:56 AM (RnikO)

811 Would like to stick a cherry bomb up the ass of the next jerkoff who uses the term "the new normal."

Posted by: Libra at January 07, 2013 04:37 AM (kd8U8)

Hide Comments | Add Comment | Refresh | Top

Comments are disabled. Post is locked.

500kb generated in CPU 0.199, elapsed 0.4665 seconds.
64 queries taking 0.3216 seconds, 939 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.