October 15, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (10-15-2013)
— Maetenloch

H.L. Mencken on Husbands and Bachelors

The average woman is not strategically capable of bringing down the most tempting game within her purview, and must thus content herself with a second, third, or nth choice. The only women who get their first choices are those who run in almost miraculous luck and those too stupid to formulate an ideal - two very small classes, it must be obvious. A few women, true enough, are so pertinacious that they prefer defeat to compromise. That is to say, they prefer to put off marriage indefinitely rather than to marry beneath the highest leap of their fancy. But such women may be quickly dismissed as abnormal, and perhaps as downright diseased in mind; the average woman is well aware that marriage is far better for her than celibacy, even when it falls a good deal short of her primary hopes... Thus the average woman is under none of the common masculine illusions about elective affinities, soul mates, love at first sight, and such phantasms. She is quite ready to fall in love, as the phrase is, with any man who is plainly eligible, and she usually knows a good many more such men than one. Her primary demand in marriage is not for the agonies of romance, but for comfort and security... One frequently hears of remarried widowers who continue to moon about their dead first wives, but for a remarried widow to show any such sentimentality would be a nine days' wonder. Once replaced, a dead husband is expunged from the minutes. And so is a dead love.

One of the results of all this is a subtle reinforcement of the contempt with which women normally regard their husbands - a contempt grounded, as I have shown, upon a sense of intellectual superiority. To this primary sense of superiority is now added the disparagement of a concrete comparison, and over all is an ineradicable resentment of the fact that such a comparison has been necessary. In other words, the typical husband is a second-rater, and no one is better aware of it than his wife. He is, taking averages, one who has been loved, as the saying goes, by but one woman, and then only as a second, third or nth choice. If any other woman had ever loved him, as the idiom has it, she would have married him, and so made him ineligible for his present happiness. But the average bachelor is a man who has been loved, so to speak, by many women, and is the lost first choice of at least some of them. He represents the unattainable, and hence the admirable; the husband is the attained and disdained.

Here we have a sufficient explanation of the general superiority of bachelors, so often noted by students of mankind - a superiority so marked that it is difficult, in all history, to find six first-rate philosophers who were married men. The bachelor's very capacity to avoid marriage is no more than a proof of his relative freedom from the ordinary sentimentalism of his sex - in other words, of his greater approximation to the clearheadedness of the enemy sex. He is able to defeat the enterprise of women because he brings to the business an equipment almost comparable to their own. Herbert Spencer, until he was fifty, was ferociously harassed by women of all sorts. Among others, George Eliot tried very desperately to marry him. But after he had made it plain, over a long series of years, that he was prepared to resist marriage to the full extent of his military and naval power, the girls dropped off one by one, and so his last decades were full of peace and he got a great deal of very important work done.

But no fortress can stand forever and just five years after writing this Mencken was smitten by a young Sara Haardt, the future Mrs. Mencken.

Here are some baby meerkats. Knock yourselves out.

London Zoo Present Hand Reared Baby Meerkats VRaYY26R1iCl

Posted by: Maetenloch at 05:43 PM | Comments (602)
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1 Haha!  Sox!!!

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 05:43 PM (8lmkt)

2 Are meerkats a form of weasel?  Do they eat their young?

Just carrying over the theme from the previous thread.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 05:44 PM (lVPtV)

3 I'm, like, batting a thousand lately, eh?  suckas . . .

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 05:44 PM (8lmkt)

4 Congrats Peaches {{{{{ hugs}}}}}}.

Posted by: Fourth horseman of the Apocalypse at October 15, 2013 05:45 PM (KuZ6A)

5 Wait, what? I demand a recount.

Posted by: wooga at October 15, 2013 05:46 PM (5SCjJ)

6 I love hugs . . . thank you!

Hey, Jane!!!!  xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 05:46 PM (8lmkt)

7 Just the ' ettes here?

Posted by: Fourth horseman of the Apocalypse at October 15, 2013 05:46 PM (KuZ6A)

8 None of the 'Ron's wanna talk about husbands.

Posted by: Fourth horseman of the Apocalypse at October 15, 2013 05:46 PM (KuZ6A)

9 Define lately.

Posted by: manometer at October 15, 2013 05:47 PM (vjrgd)

10 Just the ' ettes here?

Posted by: Fourth horseman of the Apocalypse at October 15, 2013 09:46 PM (KuZ6A)


"Just????"  I hope you are wearing a cup . . . that was so uncalled for.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 05:47 PM (8lmkt)

11 Is that person giving us the finger?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 15, 2013 05:47 PM (l0lja)

12 Nice ONT Maet

Posted by: sven10077 at October 15, 2013 05:47 PM (9jfyN)

13 Uh...ok? New record for least content in an ONT?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 05:47 PM (GEICT)

14 Why you thoroughly awesome bitch Peaches .

Posted by: Canada at October 15, 2013 05:47 PM (1jQhu)

15 The meerkats have that dazed, confused, 'Why Yes, I'm A Senator' look to them.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 05:47 PM (FUbuZ)

16 Ted Cruz? Ever seen Eddie Haskel and he in the same room?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 15, 2013 05:47 PM (0FSuD)

17 None of the 'Ron's wanna talk about husbands.

Posted by: Fourth horseman of the Apocalypse at October 15, 2013 09:46 PM (KuZ6A)


None of the 'Rons have the experience to do so, but go ahead, you start.  We'll jump in as we see fit. 

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 05:48 PM (8lmkt)

18 So I give up. I must be racist because I disagree with the president. And I love meerkats. Meerkat manor. I should watch reruns instead of the news.

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at October 15, 2013 05:48 PM (1ThpN)

19 Otters and Meerkats and Possums oh my.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 15, 2013 05:48 PM (v1Ckr)

20 Guns. And booze.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 05:48 PM (4Mv1T)

21 13 BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 09:47 PM (GEICT)

He's walking wounded per yesterday's IIRC BC....

it'll do in a pinch

Posted by: sven10077 at October 15, 2013 05:48 PM (9jfyN)

22 Personally, I think my wife looks better than all of em. I know that even without following the links.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 15, 2013 05:48 PM (l0lja)

23 When he leaves the room.

Posted by: Just the Punchline at October 15, 2013 05:48 PM (QupBk)

24 Hey, Peaches!! {{{}}}

Son's Marine buddy has arrived at local pub.  All the way from MO in one day.  Can't wait to meet him, the former Obamabot nut.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 05:49 PM (lVPtV)

25 He is able to defeat the enterprise of women because he brings to the business an equipment almost comparable to their own. And by "equipment," he is talking about genital size.

Posted by: wooga at October 15, 2013 05:49 PM (5SCjJ)

26 FACT: If you haven't read H.L. Mencken, you have no business calling yourself an American, a conservative, or an intellectual.  Go pick up his Chrestomathy (a selection of his works chosen by him) and dip into some of the most amazingly scalding and witty writing in all of American letters.  "The Sahara of the Bozart" alone (about the intellectual emptiness of the post-war South) is one of the most hilarious, vicious, coruscating, and ultimately penetrating bits of slander you'll ever read. 

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 15, 2013 05:49 PM (n/+FT)

27 "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2013 05:49 PM (1RQeV)

28 20 Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 09:48 PM (4Mv1T)

and that wraps up the ONT mark the time at 21:49


Good night now

Posted by: sven10077 at October 15, 2013 05:49 PM (9jfyN)

29 Meerkats are mongoose. They eat tasty snakes and scorpions among other things.

Posted by: Beagle at October 15, 2013 05:49 PM (sOtz/)

30 Why you thoroughly awesome bitch Peaches .

Posted by: Canada at October 15, 2013 09:47 PM (1jQhu)


oh, swellsies, the nicest thing anyone ever said to me comes from fuckin' Canuckistan.  I mean, thank you, that's very kind.  smooshes.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 05:49 PM (8lmkt)

31 No peaches I mean as in we should take over the thread lol and I'm an 'ette despite the nic.

Posted by: Fourth horseman of the Apocalypse at October 15, 2013 05:49 PM (KuZ6A)

32 Has anyone seen the stories about the highly addictive, flesh eating drug "Krokodil"? It's made its way here to the U.S.. Take a gander. You will be appalled. Why do people do that to themselves? http://tinyurl.com/mqmnc9z

Posted by: Tuna at October 15, 2013 05:50 PM (M/TDA)

33 15 The meerkats have that dazed, confused, 'Why Yes, I'm A Senator' look to them.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 09:47 PM (FUbuZ)

I was thinking it was more of the "Please don't let the senators screw up my life" look.

Posted by: tangonine at October 15, 2013 05:50 PM (x3YFz)

34 “The galleries are full of critics. They play no ball, they fight no fights. They make no mistakes because they attempt nothing. Down in the arena are the doers. They make mistakes because they try many things." David M. Shoup MOH General USMC

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2013 05:50 PM (1RQeV)

35 Effing hate socks .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 15, 2013 05:50 PM (1jQhu)

36 'night Sven.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 05:50 PM (4Mv1T)

37
"Just????" I hope you are wearing a cup . . . that was so uncalled for.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 09:47 PM (8lmkt)




That was awesome. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 05:50 PM (lVPtV)

38 Meerkats are indeed a form of weasel. Them and mongooses mongeese mongii.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2013 05:50 PM (8Fl6F)

39 Guns. And booze. ------------------ How good does it get? I did have a memorable guns/booze/bulldozer afternoon once. Evening TR

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 05:51 PM (aDwsi)

40 Personally, I think my wife looks better than all of em. I don't know, that meerkat looks pretty saucy.

Posted by: toby928© at October 15, 2013 05:51 PM (QupBk)

41

Well good evening all you snarky folks on my crappy windows phone! What are we drinking?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhaed at October 15, 2013 05:51 PM (vzfrq)

42 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2013 09:50 PM (8Fl6F)

Mongols?

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 05:51 PM (FUbuZ)

43 No peaches I mean as in we should take over the thread lol and I'm an 'ette despite the nic.

Posted by: Fourth horseman of the Apocalypse at October 15, 2013 09:49 PM (KuZ6A)


Girl, come sit here by auntie peaches . . . you want a beer, a parlie?  {{{{{}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 05:51 PM (8lmkt)

44 I've had my hubby 36 years this September don't know what I'd do without him hope I never find out.

Posted by: Fourth horseman of the Apocalypse at October 15, 2013 05:51 PM (KuZ6A)

45 Jennifer Connelly ONT Compliance Pic

http://tinyurl.com/l2hvkjm

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 05:51 PM (aTXUx)

46 That was me Peaches , and you know I love you .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 15, 2013 05:52 PM (1jQhu)

47 Evening all. Popular Mechanics has a top 10 list of new products for 2013 (kinda early there, huh guys?) and there a couple of interesting ones:
 
http://tinyurl.com/kjgatlh
 
The 3D object scanner plus the mini-mill make quite a pair. For about $3k, you can duplicate almost any object with dimensions of 8x8x8 or less.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2013 05:52 PM (wNF3N)

48 Baby Meerkats are precious,even full grown adults are tiny.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 05:52 PM (9XBK2)

49 Love the meerkats. Fearless little guys.

Posted by: Tuna at October 15, 2013 05:52 PM (M/TDA)

50 A Stopped Clock in California With California hurtling down the path to ruin, Gomorrah, and a New Feudalism due to being under the deathgrip of radical Leftists with 2/3 majority in the legislature, as well as the governorship of Gov. Moonbeam himself, one would expect nothing but horrible legislation. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3619

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 15, 2013 05:52 PM (Vk2pI)

51 Got the Reader's Digest condensed ONT tonight. Cool. Too depressed anyway.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at October 15, 2013 05:52 PM (vEu4e)

52 hello ettes and fellow 2nd choicers.

the meerkats are an oddity in the animal kingdom because they have a chick as a leader.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2013 05:52 PM (N8z9m)

53 Obama’s War on Privacy The rabid Left’s claim of wanting to protect the “right to privacy” has already demonstrated itself to be a lie. Obama’s minions are now but proving just how big a lie that is. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3645

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 15, 2013 05:53 PM (Vk2pI)

54 Who broke the ONT?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 15, 2013 05:53 PM (oFCZn)

55 I don't know, that meerkat looks pretty saucy.

Posted by: toby928© at October 15, 2013 09:51 PM (QupBk)


killing myself laughing at that, toby . . . God love ya, I know I do.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 05:53 PM (8lmkt)

56 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 15, 2013 05:53 PM (JMmQ9)

57 Howdy Hammer. Perhaps it was reported earlier, but EC and I had a Mini Moron Meetup that involved Guns and Beer on Saturday. In that order, but not at the same time, or establishment. And let me say, EC is a mighty fine shot at 200 yards.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 05:53 PM (4Mv1T)

58 oh, swellsies, the nicest thing anyone ever said to me comes from fuckin' Canuckistan. I mean, thank you, that's very kind. smooshes.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 09:49 PM (8lmkt)

Oh well, darn.  I'd say go bury yourself with your own shovel under eighty pounds of cow crap, but as compliments go, I think I have to work on it a bit.

/back to the drawing board

Jokes aside:  yer good, kid.

Posted by: tangonine at October 15, 2013 05:53 PM (x3YFz)

59 I'll take the parlie anytime and if you wanna leave that commie state anytime you come see us.

Posted by: Fourth horseman of the Apocalypse at October 15, 2013 05:53 PM (KuZ6A)

60 the meerkats are an oddity in the animal kingdom because they have a chick as a leader.

You're not a married guy, are you?

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 05:53 PM (FUbuZ)

61

Mongii just pawn in big game of life.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2013 05:54 PM (gP4+L)

62 24 former obamabot?? Do tell ...

Posted by: Puttanesca, the sauce at October 15, 2013 05:54 PM (1ThpN)

63 The classic Jennifer Connelly on a horse gif http://is.gd/CLqQl7

Posted by: toby928© at October 15, 2013 05:54 PM (QupBk)

64 Hyena's are also ruled by females,who for some reason have fake penises,

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 05:55 PM (9XBK2)

65 You're not a married guy, are you?

I am.  My wife told me I could be in charge.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2013 05:55 PM (N8z9m)

66

Jennifer Connelly ONT Compliance Pic

http://tinyurl.com/l2hvkjm[/i]

 

Now that I would consider marrying.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2013 05:56 PM (gP4+L)

67 Weasel and mongoose are different families, Mustelidae and Herpestidae.

Posted by: Beagle at October 15, 2013 05:56 PM (sOtz/)

68
I have a lot to say about husbands, but thankfully all of the darlings loved me dearly and tolerated my insufferable temperament. And my very creative blowjobs.

Posted by: Zombie Elizabeth Taylor at October 15, 2013 05:56 PM (pJF+c)

69 Funny how son's Marine buddy couldn't find our house, and ended up on an island twenty miles away, but found the pub a mile and a half from our house with no problem.

Must be a Marine thang.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 05:56 PM (lVPtV)

70 TR - Yeah. Dammit. EC reported a very good time. What pisses me off is that I drove through Raleigh about 3:30 in the afternoon, but had to be back west by 8:00 or so, thus could not stop.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 05:56 PM (aDwsi)

71 I am. My wife told me I could be in charge.

Ah, so you ARE well-versed in the concept then.

Carry on . . .

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 05:56 PM (FUbuZ)

72 Hyena's are also ruled by females,who for some reason have fake penises,

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 09:55 PM (9XBK2)



So is MSNBC

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 15, 2013 05:56 PM (lr3d7)

73 What is going on with shutdown & debt ceiling? I'm at work, I haven't heard that the republicans have caved yet?

Posted by: CarolT at October 15, 2013 05:56 PM (s0f54)

74 Posted by: The Political Hat at October 15, 2013 09:53 PM (Vk2pI)

Comrade, we only want to protect the right kind of privacy!

Posted by: Caliph Barky Ochoomba I at October 15, 2013 05:57 PM (XdnQT)

75 I am. My wife told me I could be in charge.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2013 09:55 PM (N8z9m)


Bless your heart, Guy. 

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 05:57 PM (8lmkt)

76 More cute weasels.  Meer Kat Manor scarred my kids... they just let the lost little cub die... on TV... they make you care then they don't help it.  Scarred for life.  Can't even say the name of the animal out loud.

Posted by: petunia at October 15, 2013 05:57 PM (DAcBA)

77 Funny how son's Marine buddy couldn't find our house, and ended up on an island twenty miles away, but found the pub a mile and a half from our house with no problem. Must be a Marine thang. Posted by: Jane D'oh -------------------- It's all of those squares..., confusing to a young fellow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 05:57 PM (aDwsi)

78 Teh Boobehs, they beckon me ..

Jennifer Connelly ONT Compliance Pic #2

http://tinyurl.com/k66uwsa

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 05:57 PM (aTXUx)

79 64 Hyena's are also ruled by females,who for some reason have fake penises,



Little known fact:  The females are known as "michelles" in their packs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 05:57 PM (lVPtV)

80 Weasel and mongoose are different families, Mustelidae and Herpestidae.

 

Posted by: Beagle at October 15, 2013 09:56 PM

 

 

huhuh uh huh... you said "herpes"... huhuh

Posted by: butthead at October 15, 2013 05:58 PM (9gNQd)

81 I am. My wife told me I could be in charge.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2013 09:55 PM (N8z9m)

Now that, that right there?  Hold on.

(elevator music)

Back.  Sorry I had to clean off not the keyboard but the entire desk.

Posted by: tangonine at October 15, 2013 05:58 PM (x3YFz)

82 I am. My wife told me I could be in charge. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2013 09:55 PM (N8z9m) So your a Mohammedan or Mormon?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 15, 2013 05:58 PM (0FSuD)

83
House Republican's took their ball and went home for the night.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 15, 2013 05:58 PM (pJF+c)

84 Jeff B.: I usually agree right on with a lot of your recommendations, BUT... ;-)

Mencken?? I know he was a great writer, but from everything I've seen and read about him, he was pretty much sour, snide and sarcastic just for the sake of being sour, snide and sarcastic. Also, did he ever criticize *himself*?? This BTW is the same reason I stopped being much interested in Pink Floyd: under the leadership of Roger Waters, the entire message of the band is/was apparently "everything in the whole entire world sucks donkey balls, except us."

Also BTW, and I know I'll get pummeled here for saying it, but I kinda sorta feel the same way about Mark Steyn these days. From what I've heard, he's completely devoid of hope for Western Civilization, and I'm sorry but that's no fun for me to read.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 05:58 PM (T/XcG)

85 Are meerkats a form of weasel? Do they eat their young? Just carrying over the theme from the previous thread. Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 09:44 PM (lVPtV) NOM NOM NOM!

Posted by: Adult meerkat at October 15, 2013 05:58 PM (Vk2pI)

86 So is MSNBC Well played sir , well played .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 15, 2013 05:58 PM (1jQhu)

87

Hyena's are also ruled by females,who for some reason have fake penises,



Little known fact: The females are known as "michelles" in their packs.

 

 

He said fake penises.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2013 05:58 PM (gP4+L)

88 petunia - So..., they haven't seen 'Bambi', eh? 'Old Yeller'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 05:59 PM (aDwsi)

89 63 The classic Jennifer Connelly on a horse gif http://is.gd/CLqQl7 Posted by: toby928© at October 15, 2013 09:54 PM

Ted Cruz pushed Jennifer off that mechanical horse

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 05:59 PM (aTXUx)

90 It's not my job to run the yacht; the horn I cannot blow It's not my job to say how far the yacht's allowed to go. It's not my job to throttle down, or even clang the bell-but let the damn thing hit the dock and see who catches hell!

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 15, 2013 06:00 PM (jucos)

91 ALL Peruvians have fake penises. Reproduction remains a mystery.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 06:00 PM (aDwsi)

92 "It is difficult, in all history, to find six first-rate philosophers who were... "

worth a warm pile of shit.

What a douche that guy was.

Posted by: Dang at October 15, 2013 06:00 PM (Hx2XA)

93 Here's a chance to make a cool $20k --
 
http://taxprof.typepad.com /taxprof_blog/2013/10/coolidge-foundation.html
 
You have until October 20th. And dammit, I had to add a space after .com to defeat Pixy. So paste and remove the space.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 15, 2013 06:00 PM (wNF3N)

94 66 Jennifer Connelly ONT Compliance Pic http://tinyurl.com/l2hvkjm Now that I would consider marrying. Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2013 09:56 PM (gP4+L) She looks pretty good, too.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at October 15, 2013 06:00 PM (u1TST)

95 Mercats, eh? I have to admit I was expecting something with a fish's tail.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2013 06:01 PM (N/Sup)

96 2 They most certainly do not. I can tell you've never watched "Meerkat Manor "

Posted by: Tuna at October 15, 2013 06:01 PM (M/TDA)

97 Mercats, eh? I have to admit I was expecting something with a fish's tail.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2013 06:01 PM (N/Sup)

98 Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 09:58 PM (T/XcG)

I enjoyed reading Steyn back when I had hope!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 15, 2013 06:01 PM (XdnQT)

99 Pretty sure that Samuel Johnson was a confirmed bachelor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 06:01 PM (aDwsi)

100 I know I'll get pummeled here for saying it, but I kinda sorta feel the same way about Mark Steyn these days.

What?  Do you mean DOOM!?

Or Let It Burn?

Or perhaps a combination?

What'cha drinkin?

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:01 PM (FUbuZ)

101 92 "It is difficult, in all history, to find six first-rate philosophers who were... "

worth a warm pile of shit.

What a douche that guy was.

Posted by: Dang at October 15, 2013 10:00 PM (Hx2XA)

Plato was an idiot.  Descartes wasn't far behind.

Posted by: tangonine at October 15, 2013 06:01 PM (x3YFz)

102 @91. Although it involves a lot of splicing and shoving gooey things into handy orifices.

Posted by: Pug Mahon...Dammit! at October 15, 2013 06:01 PM (6rcHp)

103 but found the pub a mile and a half from our house with no problem.

Must be a Marine thang.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

Semper Fi!!

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 06:01 PM (8lmkt)

104 Hello, Horde! I got called a racist for the first time today on Twitter. ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED! Off to read the comments.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 06:02 PM (5J54Q)

105 Oops unintentional double post.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2013 06:02 PM (N/Sup)

106 Has anyone seen the stories about the highly addictive, flesh eating drug "Krokodil"? It's made its way here to the U.S.. Take a gander. You will be appalled. Why do people do that to themselves? http://tinyurl.com/mqmnc9z Posted by: Tuna at October 15, 2013 09:50 PM (M/TDA) Sounds like we need to put together another special!

Posted by: 1980's Saturday Morning Cartoon Characters at October 15, 2013 06:02 PM (Vk2pI)

107 Pretty sure that Samuel Johnson was a confirmed bachelor. NTTATWWT.

Posted by: toby928© at October 15, 2013 06:02 PM (QupBk)

108 I hate those animal shows where they film them constantly ,give them names,than when they need help " we don't interfere with nature".

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 06:02 PM (9XBK2)

109 From new DCCC email: You have GOT to be kidding us. We just got word that BoehnerÂ’s last-ditch deal attacking Obamacare as ransom for re-opening the government fell apart. Apparently, the Tea Party rebelled. Again. ItÂ’s Tuesday night. We face the potential of a catastrophic debt default on THURSDAY. -- weÂ’re so close to hitting ONE MILLION STRONG standing behind President Obama, but we noticed your name is missing. Where's the email from the RNC? The Dems always go unchecked.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 06:02 PM (DmNpO)

110 I posted this in the last thread. Video of Felix Baumgartner's record parachute jump from his own perspective. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raiFrxbHxV0 Pay special attention to the airspeed and g-force indicators in the early portion of the jump. He got into a nasty spin there for a bit.

Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2013 06:02 PM (sdi6R)

111 I can think of about 93 senators who should be replaced by meerkats.

Posted by: EROWMER at October 15, 2013 06:02 PM (OONaw)

112 Also BTW, and I know I'll get pummeled here for saying it, but I kinda sorta feel the same way about Mark Steyn these days. From what I've heard, he's completely devoid of hope for Western Civilization, and I'm sorry but that's no fun for me to read. Posted by: qdpsteve ------------------------------------ He just calls 'em like he sees 'em. And he's teh funny.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 06:03 PM (4Mv1T)

113 108 I hate those animal shows where they film them constantly ,give them names,than when they need help " we don't interfere with nature".



Yes.  Gather 'round, kiddies, and let's watch the lost baby meerkat die...slowly.


Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 06:03 PM (lVPtV)

114 Hrothgar and filbert, that's my problem. I have trouble letting go of hope.

I personally believe that if all else fails, people will vote with their feet and move to states that respect freedom more than security. And of course they'll be others who will do the opposite.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 06:04 PM (T/XcG)

115 Jennifer Connelly ... Leopard Top

Katy Perry, eat your heart out

http://tinyurl.com/lwzaxyz

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 06:04 PM (aTXUx)

116 Is it desirable to preserve the lives of children whose parents read and take seriously such dreadful bilge as Christian Science?  Such strains are manifestly dysgenic.  Their persistence unchecked would quickly bring the whole human race down to an average IQ of 10 or 15.  Being intelligent would become a criminal offense everywhere, as it already is in Mississippi and Tennessee.  Thus a genuinely enlightend State would endow Christian Science on eugenic principles, as our great universities already endow football.  Failing that, it is the plain duty of statesmanship to let nature take its course.

Posted by: H.L. Mencken at October 15, 2013 06:04 PM (n/+FT)

117 27 "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2013 09:49 PM (1RQeV) Oddly, Churchill was an admirer of Germany's Social Insurance scheme circa 1905-1918, or so.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at October 15, 2013 06:04 PM (KPkDc)

118 Immanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable

Posted by: toby928© at October 15, 2013 06:04 PM (QupBk)

119 111 I can think of about 93 senators who should be replaced by meerkats.



Hell, a meerkat would be smarter and more hard-working than the prissy douche taking up space in the Oval Office.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 06:05 PM (lVPtV)

120 he's completely devoid of hope for Western Civilization,

So, do tell, where do you find hope in the current situation?  If you're looking for fun, I heard today that you can pretty much live for 3 months if you embrace the Krokodil. 

THIS IS NOT ABOUT FUN!  THIS IS ABOUT FIX IT OR BURN IT.

sorry, yes, I was yelling.  sue me.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 06:05 PM (8lmkt)

121 I got called a racist for the first time today on Twitter. ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED! ------------------------------ Heck, Capt. WB - I was called that on a North Carolina gun forum last week. We are unstoppable!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 06:05 PM (4Mv1T)

122 "we could gently nudge the baby meerkat in the right direction or lead an adult over,but nahh,nature".

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 06:05 PM (9XBK2)

123 114 Hrothgar and filbert, that's my problem. I have trouble letting go of hope. Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

Posted by: Isador Akios at October 15, 2013 06:05 PM (ZyqBH)

124 Brits couldn't wait to dispose of Winston after WW2 and get their NHS.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 06:06 PM (9XBK2)

125 Meerkats are like honey badgers who found a great pr firm.  But, yeah, they're dem-style baby-killers, just better looking at first glance.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 06:07 PM (8lmkt)

126 Peaches: uh, please see my comment above about folks voting with their feet. And there's no need to yell. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 06:07 PM (T/XcG)

127   Mark Steyn these days. From what I've heard, he's completely devoid of hope for Western Civilization
He just calls 'em like he sees 'em.
And he's teh funny.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 10:03 PM (4Mv1T)

Humorous hopelessness.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 15, 2013 06:07 PM (v1Ckr)

128 Hi horde

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 15, 2013 06:07 PM (HVff2)

129 Funny how son's Marine buddy couldn't find our house, and ended up on an island twenty miles away, but found the pub a mile and a half from our house with no problem.

Must be a Marine thang.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Priorities ma'am.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhaed at October 15, 2013 06:07 PM (vAjpf)

130 hey, Mis!  xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 06:07 PM (8lmkt)

131 Another show I've never seen even one episode of,Sons of Anarchy.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 06:07 PM (9XBK2)

132 Meerkats are residents of the Halls of the Blind. "I can see what you see not. Vision milky and then eyes rot."

Posted by: Thrawn at October 15, 2013 06:07 PM (ZyqBH)

133 Jennifer Connelly Compliance Pic #4

Jennifer seems to prefer dark red lipstick. How would Morons explain that to wife or GF?

http://tinyurl.com/ke9g9ww

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 06:08 PM (aTXUx)

134 Priorities ma'am. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhaed ----------------------- Well played. *chuckles*

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 06:08 PM (4Mv1T)

135 After spend an entire day throwing 40 years of shit away at my office, which the city is condemning, I am going to bed. More shit to throw away tomorrow. Anyone need some office desks?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 15, 2013 06:08 PM (0FSuD)

136 Me to son in pub with Marine buddy:  "Have him come to the unlocked front door, not through the garage piled with re-cyclable stuff."

Son:  "WHY?"

Me:  "Because I SAID SO."

Son:  "Okay."  (pissed off)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 06:09 PM (lVPtV)

137 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for what he did to those meerkats.

Posted by: AD at October 15, 2013 06:09 PM (NmpZu)

138 Obligatory philosophy song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_WRFJwGsbY

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2013 06:10 PM (8Fl6F)

139 Nip Sip: why is your building being condemned? Extremely old? Toxic spill? Asbestos?

I remember when they finally tore down the original Catholic Church in LA that was home to Roger Mahony. Supposedly it was so old, the mortar between the bricks had turned to silt, and the building could literally have been pushed down.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 06:10 PM (T/XcG)

140
Also BTW, and I know I'll get pummeled here for saying it, but I kinda sorta feel the same way about Mark Steyn these days. From what I've heard, he's completely devoid of hope for Western Civilization, and I'm sorry but that's no fun for me to read.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 09:58 PM (T/XcG)

his after america was so depressing I haven't finished it.  what is the point of fighting if the battle and war are already doomed?

 

Posted by: rich@gmu at October 15, 2013 06:11 PM (ga+7c)

141 Jennifer seems to prefer dark red lipstick. How would Morons explain that to wife or GF?

Hopefully with, "Why don't you two ladies share it while I fire up the jacuzzi."

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 15, 2013 06:11 PM (lr3d7)

142 Where's the email from the RNC? The Dems always go unchecked.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 10:02 PM (DmNpO)


My political consulting firm disparages any Republican from taking a public stand on any topic, especially in the internet media.  Experience has shown that having any kind of public record only makes backtracking and screwing the base more difficult in the future!

Posted by: Karl Rover at October 15, 2013 06:11 PM (XdnQT)

143 I was a fan of Meerkat Manor.  Loved how they'd crawl all over the cameraman.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 06:11 PM (lVPtV)

144 Mark Steyn pretty much lays it out that things have already been set in motion that are unstoppable

That elusive big majority would just tap the brakes a little, and that's if they could withstand the MSM horror stories of children eating cat food

Steyn simply says the SMOD doesn't give a shit

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 06:11 PM (aTXUx)

145 Son: "Okay." (pissed off) Posted by: Jane D'oh ----------------------------------------- I have these conversations daily with my 21 year old. And in other news, he's a tattoo artist apprentice now. Yay! An artist left a shop in Jax NC to open one here, and my son is on deck. Maybe he'll have a job when the rest of us don't.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 06:11 PM (4Mv1T)

146 Hey Peaches

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 15, 2013 06:11 PM (HVff2)

147 Does anyone else get pissed listening to juan Williams? The only reason I didn't punch my tv is that the beautiful Megyn Kelly was hosting and she has a calming, soothing effect on me. yeah. soothing. But to the question, anybody get pissed with that dude?

Posted by: fastfreefall at October 15, 2013 06:11 PM (Tz35j)

148 Fuckitall, let's go for it.

Shut it down until we get the government down to 75% of what it was in 2007.


Posted by: Kreplach at October 15, 2013 06:11 PM (dwtaK)

149

Five years later when she's been off the radar, Rielle Hunter makes a public apology essay on HuffPoo.

 

They lap it up like free champagne at  a wedding reception.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 15, 2013 06:12 PM (BAS5M)

150 Conservatives can't disagree on tactics without being at each others throats.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 06:12 PM (9XBK2)

151 lotsa, lotsa, lotsa beisbol left to play ... no victory laps just yet .. for any team.

Posted by: The Umpire at October 15, 2013 06:13 PM (Kdzh4)

152 My political consulting firm disparages any Republican from taking a public stand on any topic, especially in the internet media. Experience has shown that having any kind of public record only makes backtracking and screwing the base more difficult in the future! **** Ahh. So there IS an explanation.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 06:13 PM (DmNpO)

153 Obligatory philosophy song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_WRFJwGsbY Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2013 10:10 PM this better be Monty Python....

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 15, 2013 06:13 PM (JMmQ9)

154 Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 06:13 PM (5J54Q)

155 104 Hello, Horde! I got called a racist for the first time today on Twitter. ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED! Off to read the comments. Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 10:02 PM (5J54Q) Given that the libs throw that particular bit of poo at anything that moves I'm amazed you didn't get hit until now.

Posted by: BornLib at October 15, 2013 06:13 PM (iUuDU)

156 Steyn watched what happened in Europe and the UK

He knows we're speeding to the same destination on the same road.

Scrooge kind of thought Jacob Marley was a killjoy too

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 06:14 PM (aTXUx)

157 A few women, true enough, are so pertinacious that they prefer defeat to compromise. That is to say, they prefer to put off marriage indefinitely rather than to marry beneath the highest leap of their fancy. But such women may be quickly dismissed as abnormal, and perhaps as downright diseased in mind; the average woman is well aware that marriage is far better for her than celibacy, even when it falls a good deal short of her primary hopes.. My sister in law? I don't know but she is the most miserable old maid bitch I've ever met.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 15, 2013 06:14 PM (HVff2)

158 I was a fan of Meerkat Manor. Loved how they'd crawl all over the cameraman. Posted by: Jane --------------- Yeah. That's how it starts.

Posted by: Gulliver at October 15, 2013 06:14 PM (aDwsi)

159 Maybe he'll have a job when the rest of us don't.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 10:11 PM (4Mv1T)




Son's first tat was an Eagle Globe and Anchor while at MOS at Ft. Leonard Woods in MO.  Hated it, but came to accept it.  I've seen old Marines sporting the same at the beach.



Then, he had to go bat-shit crazy and get one on his right shoulder, one "dedicated" to Axel Rose.  Wanted to kill him, and then myself.  Husband and I hate that tat with a white-hot heat. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 06:14 PM (lVPtV)

160 hey everyone. yet another shitty day and now i am coming down with a cold. i should do something productive tonight, like maybe write or build something. but i really just want to drink some wine and be amongst my tribe.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 06:14 PM (0SmH0)

161 Conservatives can't disagree on tactics without being at each others throats. Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 10:12 PM (9XBK2) It's possible, but the situation is so bad and the stakes so high that everyone is on their last nerve. Anyone can get out the shit-stirring stick and that's the effective end of the conversation.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:15 PM (qyfb5)

162 Husbands? Yeah, I am one, what's your point? Now onto meerkats

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 15, 2013 06:15 PM (HVff2)

163 Does anyone else get pissed listening to juan Williams? The only reason I didn't punch my tv is that the beautiful Megyn Kelly was hosting and she has a calming, soothing effect on me. yeah. soothing. But to the question, anybody get pissed with that dude? *** He pisses off a lot of people. Frankly, I miss when Fox didn't try to appeal to the "moderates" in each party and just went for it. I strongly preferred Hannity and Colmes to just Hannity. Let their freak flag fly! Show the world what they are really all about. And we'll match them one for one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 06:16 PM (DmNpO)

164 Does anyone else get pissed listening to juan Williams?

Does anyone ever NOT?  He's a racist fucktard, with kneepads.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 06:16 PM (8lmkt)

165 Howdy, strangers.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 06:16 PM (un8zR)

166 That which does not kill me makes me cockeyed.

  -Nietzsche

Posted by: Dang at October 15, 2013 06:16 PM (Hx2XA)

167 Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 10:07 PM (9XBK2)

Watched one episode of SoA, decided that none of the characters had any redeeming features, reminded me too much of Obama and his friends, never watched again!

Posted by: Karl Rover at October 15, 2013 06:16 PM (XdnQT)

168 Scrooge kind of thought Jacob Marley was a killjoy too Posted by: kbdabear ------------------------ Jacob Marley: I wear the chain I forged in life! I made it link by link and yard by yard! I gartered it on of my own free will and by my own free will, I wore it! -------------- I keep that passage in mind....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 06:16 PM (aDwsi)

169 Williams used to show a flash of sanity now and than before Obama.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 06:17 PM (9XBK2)

170 Five years later when she's been off the radar, Rielle Hunter makes a public apology essay on HuffPoo.

Her book came out today, this is kabuki theater right here.  And she's still a worthless ho.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 06:17 PM (8lmkt)

171 Was just reading about Mencken at Wikipedia. It turns out he thought Stalin was worse than even Hitler, so at least he had that going for him.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 06:17 PM (T/XcG)

172 Given that the libs throw that particular bit of poo at anything that moves I'm amazed you didn't get hit until now. Posted by: BornLib at October 15, 2013 10:13 PM (iUuDU) ========= I know, right? All I said was that the way the Tea Party is being set up as the scapegoat for whatever happens when Teh Burning begins reminded me of 1930s Germany. The bonehead's reply: "The jews did not drive Germany to default you f-ing racist" (edited because I don't like that word) So, not only am I a racist, I'm an f-ing racist! Bonus.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 06:17 PM (5J54Q)

173 I remember Laura Ingraham interviewed Juan William's son years ago.  His son is a Republican and conservative.

Can't wrap my mind around that family dynamic.  "Hey, dad.  You are aware you're a fucking idiot, right?"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 06:18 PM (lVPtV)

174 Juan is trying to work his way back on to the plantation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 06:18 PM (aDwsi)

175 This cheered me up a little: http://youtu.be/qj1h75vA1Jw Sure, it's Government Motors, but a camaro lapping the Ring faster than a Gallardo, a GT-R and Carrera S? Not the fastest, but for the price... oh, and it rained.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:18 PM (qyfb5)

176 171 Was just reading about Mencken at Wikipedia. It turns out he thought Stalin was worse than even Hitler, so at least he had that going for him.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 10:17 PM (T/XcG)


In that respect he beat out many prominent politicians and writers of the day, even the ones that weren't on the Sov payroll.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 06:19 PM (un8zR)

177 Steyn is like Thomas Andrews explaining that with 5 compartments breached, the ship will sink and there's no stopping it

The GOP Institutionals are Capt Smith speculating; "If we use the pumps, open the watertight doors"

Obama is Ismay; "But this ship CAN'T sink!"

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 06:19 PM (aTXUx)

178 I have trouble letting go of hope.

That'll Change.

'It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised.'

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:19 PM (FUbuZ)

179 That was awesome reading. Mt wife settled. She told me so once around out sixth year of marraige during an arguement. I plainly spoke when I replied "Too bad for you, because I did not."

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:19 PM (XIxXP)

180 yet another shitty day and now i am coming down with a cold. i should do something productive tonight, like maybe write or build something. but i really just want to drink some wine and be amongst my tribe.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 10:14 PM (0SmH0)

sorry to hear that. pours some wine.

 

Posted by: rich@gmu at October 15, 2013 06:19 PM (ga+7c)

181 170- Peaches, makes me wonder if Johnny E will try to rehabilitate his image amongst the LIVs and make the big comeback. Perhaps another "Poverty Tour" is in order with a new, fresh and rebranded man- of- the- people- and- now -in -his -lovechild's -life John Edwards.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 06:20 PM (0SmH0)

182 Gahh,the " if it wasn't for the shutdown the Obamacare disaster would be a huge story!"meme.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 06:20 PM (9XBK2)

183 Levin is missing something. the FedGov is doomed. I mean, I'd give it a ten percent chance of NOT collapsing? But, it won't really matter all that much? The states are well able to function without FedGov. We may end up becoming more than a single country, but that doesn't have to happen. A new CC and work some things out and it will be ok. I mean, if you live in a decently functional state? I'm dubious about Pennsy but eh. Can always head a bit further to the west

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 15, 2013 06:20 PM (2up3Q)

184 Re Rielle Hunter's book: she's already starred in three of them by Jay McEirney (sp) and Bret Easton Ellis. Whatever would she have to tell us other than "blowjob technique" and "how to mainline coke"

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 15, 2013 06:20 PM (L4ZuH)

185 177 Great analogy.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 06:20 PM (9XBK2)

186 I can't even see hope in my rearview mirror.  Had a glimpse until the '12 election, then it just tumbled off to the side and was ravaged by wolves.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 06:20 PM (8lmkt)

187 "The jews did not drive Germany to default you f-ing racist" (edited because I don't like that word) Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 10:17 PM (5J54Q) Ask them how they're treating the Acquired Mental Illness they apparently suffer. Seriously, call it poisoning the well, call it the madman gambit, they don't want to deal with ideas or discussions or anything, they just want domination, and since they don't have the power to create killing fields, they use the power they have - bitchy insults and lies.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:21 PM (qyfb5)

188 Not the fastest, but for the price... oh, and it rained.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith at October 15, 2013 10:18 PM (qyfb5)


I assume you've seen pics of the new 'Vette...from the front or rear, it looks like the lines come from the Caddy coupe, but broadside that thing is all Italy.  It screams Ferrari when viewed from the side.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 06:21 PM (un8zR)

189 Except,Obama wants it to sink,to a degree.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2013 06:21 PM (9XBK2)

190 127 Mark Steyn these days. From what I've heard, he's completely devoid of hope for Western Civilization
----------------------
He just calls 'em like he sees 'em.   And he's teh funny. 
Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 10:03 PM (4Mv1T)
----------------------
Humorous hopelessness. 
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 15, 2013 10:07 PM (v1Ckr)



World's absurd because it's funny.   You know your duty - keep doing that.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 15, 2013 06:21 PM (0wHyk)

191 and this ONT makes me Waits-ish: "All my friends are married Every Tom, Dick and Harry You must be strong if you're to go it alone . . ."

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 15, 2013 06:21 PM (2up3Q)

192 I would just explain to Mrs Monkey that it was Jennifer Connelly.  She is definitely a hill to die on.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 15, 2013 06:21 PM (jucos)

193 "Herbert Spencer, until he was fifty, was ferociously harassed by women of all sorts. ... But after he had made it plain, over a long series of years, that he was prepared to resist marriage to the full extent of his military and naval power, the girls dropped off one by one, and so his last decades were full of peace and he got a great deal of very important work done."

"Very important work"? Herbert Spencer? *Really*?

Posted by: Brown Line at October 15, 2013 06:22 PM (a5bF3)

194 I remember that Britt Hume would occasionally school Juan on Chris Commie Wallace's show (but that was before Britt went senile) .  Always good for the soul to see that.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 15, 2013 06:22 PM (XdnQT)

195 "I drink, therefore I am" ...has been my operating philosophy for several decades...

Posted by: AltonJackson has had a couple of "Philosophy" classes in his past at October 15, 2013 06:23 PM (JMmQ9)

196 "The jews did not drive Germany to default you f-ing racist"

That is truly a prodigious bank-shot of malicious ignorance dressed up as high moral dudgeon.

We Are So Screwed.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:23 PM (FUbuZ)

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 15, 2013 06:23 PM (a6O1A)

198 It screams Ferrari when viewed from the side. Posted by: StPatrick ----------------- As long as they do not spontaneously combust in the same fashion.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 06:23 PM (aDwsi)

199 I assume you've seen pics of the new 'Vette...from the front or rear, it looks like the lines come from the Caddy coupe, but broadside that thing is all Italy. It screams Ferrari when viewed from the side. Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 10:21 PM (un8zR) You see it exactly as I do. I FKN hate it. I hate the angular caddy bullshit too. I don't know what they are trying to prove. I guess I'll have to write another Novel and purchase the real thing. A Ferrari California.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:23 PM (XIxXP)

200 180- thanks Rich

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 06:23 PM (0SmH0)

201 Don't. Give. Up. The. Ship.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 06:24 PM (aDwsi)

202 171 Was just reading about Mencken at Wikipedia. It turns out he thought Stalin was worse than even Hitler, so at least he had that going for him.

Also, the burning hatred for FDR was a major plus. IIRC, he had a major affection for Coolidge, which is also a plus; I imagine it was sort of like having Gary Cooper in High Noon for President.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 06:24 PM (bKA83)

203 It screams Ferrari when viewed from the side.

Posted by: StPatrick

Anybody take it out on a track and run it against the '63 or we just talking about how good it looks meandering down the street here?

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 06:25 PM (8lmkt)

204 According to Liaquat Ahmed it was mostly vengeful Frogs who drove Deutschland into DOOM. Not the Joos

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 15, 2013 06:25 PM (L4ZuH)

205 That Mencken's a flash in the pan.

Posted by: Theodore Dreiser at October 15, 2013 06:25 PM (gQKHE)

206 Fuck it.  I cracked the rum bottle.  Things will be better shortly.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:26 PM (FUbuZ)

207 103 but found the pub a mile and a half from our house with no problem. Must be a Marine thang. Posted by: Jane D'oh Heh.....we can crawl that far.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at October 15, 2013 06:26 PM (KPkDc)

208 Anybody take it out on a track and run it against the '63 or we just talking about how good it looks meandering down the street here? Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 10:25 PM (8lmkt) Performance wise it would kill the 63. Style on the other hand. Couldn't touch the 63.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:26 PM (XIxXP)

209 You see it exactly as I do. I FKN hate it. I hate the angular caddy bullshit too. I don't know what they are trying to prove. I guess I'll have to write another Novel and purchase the real thing. A Ferrari California. Posted by: Oldsailors ---------------------- Heh. When BMW fans complained of the Z4 styling, BMW replied that they wanted something 'edgy'. Fans replied, "Bullshit, it's ugly"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 06:26 PM (aDwsi)

210 Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 10:20 PM (8lmkt)

Peaches:  I no longer think hope exists on this planet.  Maybe CAC could advise me on the proper magnification required to view it.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 15, 2013 06:26 PM (XdnQT)

211 More from the land of Make It Hurt.... From a comment at The Hostages: talking to a friend who works at the Post Office today. The friend asked if we had received a letter from the Forest Service (we have a permit to run cattle on the national forest). She said several local ranchers got registered letters telling them to remove their cattle from the forest due to the budget problem. I canÂ’t confirm this, but itÂ’s basically the government shutting down their business. IÂ’m hoping we donÂ’t get a letter.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 06:26 PM (GEICT)

212 I assume you've seen pics of the new 'Vette...from the front or rear, it looks like the lines come from the Caddy coupe, but broadside that thing is all Italy. It screams Ferrari when viewed from the side. Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 10:21 PM (un8zR) It's a Ferrari 550 with angles and the tail off a Camaro. It is better than the last one but not that exciting. Mind you, ends are hard - in writing, films, and cars. So no shame in not thrilling. Ultimately it will come down to build quality and handling. I doubt I will drive one for a while, so I'll have to see later.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:26 PM (qyfb5)

213 I mean, if you live in a decently functional state? I'm dubious about Pennsy but eh. Can always head a bit further to the west

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 15, 2013 10:20 PM (2up3Q)

As many libs will tell you, there's a lot of red states taking in more fed money than goes out, so choose carefully.  They make that point while trying to argue coastal / metro superiority and fail, but the warning is still true.   Nobody is immune to the disease that is Uncle Sugar.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 06:26 PM (un8zR)

214 Howdy, rowdies.  I hope those trolls were feeling the heat after ACA Roll-out Disaster.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 06:27 PM (lq3Ak)

215 That was awesome reading. Mt wife settled. She told me so once around out sixth year of marraige during an arguement. I plainly spoke when I replied "Too bad for you, because I did not."

This is why I can't marry.  If a woman told me that, we'd be done then and there.  It's disrespect and arrogance, plain and simple. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 15, 2013 06:27 PM (lr3d7)

216 The new Vette is apparently very competent, in all respects.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 06:27 PM (aDwsi)

217 Fuck it. I cracked the rum bottle. Things will be better shortly.

Filbert, getting more optimistic by the gallon, eh? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 06:28 PM (T/XcG)

218 From the Chicago Tribune, Obama's hometown paper. >>The deeper problems of cost and coverage in Obamacare are going to require an admission by the administration that this government management of the health care market is extraordinarily complicated and will be very costly for many people. The law has to change. Read it all. It's devastating. The claim that the msm would never admit what is incredibly obvious to everyone is absurd and always has been. http://tinyurl.com/npaf9ms If you want to end Obamacare and send a crushing blow to the idea that big government is the way to go, make them implement Obamacare.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2013 06:28 PM (g1DWB)

219 I'm signing off in preparation for the former Obamabot Marine to arrive.

Should be an interesting several days (and when I say "several days" I mean hopefully long weekend.  This kid has indicated he may want to semi-move in with us for a bit.  Which won't be happening.).

Just called his mom in MO and told her he's okay and in a bar near us.

She sounds nice, for a woman who (along with her husband and son) voted for Obama in '08.

*jeebus*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 06:28 PM (lVPtV)

220 188 I assume you've seen pics of the new 'Vette...from the front or rear, it looks like the lines come from the Caddy coupe, but broadside that thing is all Italy. It screams Ferrari when viewed from the side

Always admired the look of Corvettes, except during the Dark Years. But:

(1) GM makes them
(2) Fiberglass, like a boat. Shake, rattle, and roar?

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 06:29 PM (bKA83)

221 Oh, Hammer. This might make you feel better, in a Steyn-ish sort of sick way. My Whirlpool dehumidifier, for which I paid many US dollars 8 years ago, and you have lusted after, and has run flawlessly for 8 years in my large, dank basement, runs no more. Bummer.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 06:29 PM (4Mv1T)

222 The new Vette is worth driving?!? Government Motors actually did something right??!!!!??!!?

It's official, you guys are right. The apocalypse is surely nigh. What's next, Bette Midler actually tweets something that makes sense??

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 06:29 PM (T/XcG)

223 This is why I can't marry. If a woman told me that, we'd be done then and there. It's disrespect and arrogance, plain and simple. Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 15, 2013 10:27 PM (lr3d7) We've been together for 21 years. That was a cry for love and attention. Something I was failing at. When you understand their thoughts, just a little, life becomes easier.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:30 PM (XIxXP)

224 Anybody take it out on a track and run it against the '63 or we just talking about how good it looks meandering down the street here? Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 10:25 PM (8lmkt) Might as well not waste the gas on the 63 in that case. I will admit I differ from many here on preferring new cars, but even given that, there's no comparison on the track.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:30 PM (qyfb5)

225 Nobody is immune to the disease that is Uncle Sugar. Posted by: StPatrick ----------------- That argument is not difficult to deal with. Take a look at the states that receive the most Fed dollars, not dollars per capita. At least half of the top 10 are blue. Many of the red states have considerable military presence, which accounts for much of the money.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 06:31 PM (aDwsi)

226 206- good man Filbert!

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 06:31 PM (0SmH0)

227 But, it won't really matter all that much? The states are well able to function without FedGov. We may end up becoming more than a single country, but that doesn't have to happen. A new CC and work some things out and it will be ok. Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 15, 2013 10:20 PM (2up3Q) That hasn't been true for a long time.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 15, 2013 06:31 PM (Vk2pI)

228 Yes kbdabear...what was the rest of the scene? Andrews: "She's made of iron, sir! I assure you she can and she will. It is a MATHEMATICAL certainty." Excellent choic of metaphor for the USS America.

Posted by: Jmel at October 15, 2013 06:32 PM (cfFqn)

229 A banner day today. I saw the second Volt that I have seen, and the first Leaf. The Leaf belonged to the wife of a Nissan salesman, so, family price + subsidy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 06:32 PM (aDwsi)

230 224 I will admit I differ from many here on preferring new cars, but even given that, there's no comparison on the track.

Here's the thing: new cars are supremely competent. But the best of them are too much for the street, by which I mean: they are boring on the street. They handle it all so competently that there's no excitement. Give me a car that puts some drama into your drive.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 06:33 PM (bKA83)

231 Ultimately it will come down to build quality and handling. I doubt I will drive one for a while, so I'll have to see later.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith at October 15, 2013 10:26 PM (qyfb5)


OSP hates it, Peaches is ambivalent, but personally, I like the look of the newest 'Vette...from the side.  The angular lines that only show up when the car is viewed from front or rear don't  get me excited.  That said, I dig it on the whole.  It's fast as hell, huge displacement, manual transmission, and serves no practical purpose.  Yes, it has EFI and cats, but it's as close as we're getting to a real muscle car anymore, if only because they don't offer a 6-cyl option.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 06:33 PM (un8zR)

232 229- i finally saw a Tesla Roadster here in the wild outside Seattle. Whether it made it off of I-90 to the charging station, who knows...

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 06:33 PM (0SmH0)

233 Guess we know Obama's next move (zerohedge link)

http://tinyurl.com/n7kreqf


To wit: "understanding the operational issues and constraints that States face, and in the interest of preserving maximum flexibility, we are directing States to hold their November issuance files and delay transmission to State electronic benefit transfer (EBT) vendors until further notice." In other words, ... "States across the country are being told to stop the supplemental nutrition assistance program for the month of November, pending further notice."

Posted by: Methos at October 15, 2013 06:33 PM (hO9ad)

234 This is why I can't marry. If a woman told me that, we'd be done then and there. It's disrespect and arrogance, plain and simple. Posted by: Colorado Alex -------------------------------- Meh. I told my beautiful wife to "Go straight to hell" last year when she said something to me like that. People living together for a long time say things. Sometimes they're true. Sometimes they just need to be forgotten. She still looks good, and I'm still married. So there's that. Doesn't mean you have to dissolve the business.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 06:34 PM (4Mv1T)

235 223 We've been together for 21 years. That was a cry for love and attention. Something I was failing at. When you understand their thoughts, just a little, life becomes easier.

True but challenging. Their minds work so differently that a lifetime of study only gets you a little closer to comprehending it.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 06:34 PM (bKA83)

236 I'm dubious about Pennsy

Cut loose Philadelphia and give it to NJ.  Then PA would be fine.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 15, 2013 06:34 PM (l5zzX)

237 Well Political Hat, I think we will find out. FedGov is not currently functioning, and not solvent, and mostly not even required. Meanwhile not a small number of states are solvent and well-led. I do think this is the likeliest future. I don't really care if we end up as multiple countries in the end, I suppose that's unpatriotic? But we've been not-50 before, and could probably do just fine as not-50 again. It is certainly not without precedent.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 15, 2013 06:34 PM (2up3Q)

238 Push polling, WashTimes asks if He will have another signature legislation passed during his presidency.

Posted by: Charlie at October 15, 2013 06:35 PM (TiOn5)

239 If a woman told me that, we'd be done then and there. It's disrespect and arrogance, plain and simple.

Nope, just how women fight.

Frustrates the hell out of my wife when, the handful of times we've had a 'fight,' that I simply don't play--I just shrug and walk away.

I grew up with four sisters.  Trying to 'win an argument' with a woman (on anything that's obviously activated her emotional centers, anyway) is like spitting into a hurricane.  Even if you 'win' you will have lost.  Only rational strategy, a la the '80's movie 'War Games' is not to play.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:35 PM (FUbuZ)

240 PowerblockTV posted a story where Tesla was blaming the Fire Dept for making a burning Tesla "WORSE" somehow!?

Um, idgits, THEY Didn't start the fire!! (Horrible song too)

Posted by: Jay Leno at October 15, 2013 06:35 PM (E7Iyp)

241 This is why I can't marry. If a woman told me that, we'd be done then and there. It's disrespect and arrogance, plain and simple.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 15, 2013 10:27 PM (lr3d7)

Sweetie, you can marry, and you should.  I honestly think it is something you yearn for, deep down, and maybe some little Alexes to sweeten the pot.  You'd be an awesome husband and an amazing dad and you're already a super-cool dude so, please, don't go putting limits on what your life can be.  I love you!

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 06:35 PM (8lmkt)

242 237 I don't really care if we end up as multiple countries in the end

Can one of them be America? I liked America.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 06:35 PM (bKA83)

243 233- yeah that minor mob/tornado that went through Walmart the other day due to the EBT "glitch" was a nice look into what is coming. The thin veneer of civilization will come off once the LIVs realize their EBT cards don't work. A bad moon a risin'...

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 06:35 PM (0SmH0)

244 I have cats. They are indoor/outdoor cats who spend most of their time outside but come in and sleep with me at night. For most of the day, they can come and go as they please. I have a littler box that has rarely been used because they let me know me when they need to do their business and I let them outside. Just now, however, I watched one of my cats come in from the backyard, use the litter box, then turn around and go back outside. I think he might be doing it wrong.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 06:36 PM (DmNpO)

245

Women are not meant to be understood.  They are meant to be loved.

 

 

 

stuff Oscar Wilde said.  Go figure.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 15, 2013 06:36 PM (BAS5M)

246 in re: the new 'Vette: we make the hood and roof. Carbon Fiber, bitches.

Posted by: AltonJackson is in The Stoopid Business™ at October 15, 2013 06:36 PM (JMmQ9)

247 "Here's the thing: new cars are supremely competent. But the best of them are too much for the street, by which I mean: they are boring on the street."

Posted by: Splunge

Drive some 90's Camaros.  They're like driving a powerful shoe.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 06:37 PM (lq3Ak)

248 Jennifer seems to prefer dark red lipstick. How would Morons explain that to wife or GF? http://tinyurl.com/ke9g9ww Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 10:08 PM (aTXUx) Explain it? Hell I'd be bragging about it even to teh wife!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 15, 2013 06:37 PM (oFCZn)

249 "...what is the point of fighting if the battle and war are already doomed?" If you don't already know the answer to that in your heart, telling you would only be head knowledge.

Posted by: teej at October 15, 2013 06:37 PM (M3APu)

250 I was my wife's 12,497,473,859th choice Lucky her!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 15, 2013 06:37 PM (wPCF5)

251 i finally saw a Tesla Roadster here in the wild outside Seattle.

They are so smokin' hot.  And they will blow the doors off of anything on the road.  Srsly, it is the one car I can never have but would really like to take for a test drive.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 06:37 PM (8lmkt)

252 BlackOrchid: thanks for getting it. :-) That's what I think is coming if the Feds don't get their act together, and barring a miracle at this stage, I doubt they ever will.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 06:37 PM (T/XcG)

253
   Was thinking about the protest at the WW2 Memorial and concluded it was a perfect example of peaceful assembly to petition for redress of grievances--just like the Constitution lays out.

    Imagine that.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 15, 2013 06:38 PM (SAMxH)

254 True but challenging. Their minds work so differently that a lifetime of study only gets you a little closer to comprehending it. Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 10:34 PM (bKA83) There's an internet meme: "Guys, don't try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other!" Okay so not strictly true, but at least a little funny. I don't understand *people* in the first place, and *women* are a whole modifier of strange on top of that. So that explains things a little.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:38 PM (qyfb5)

255 I liked America. Yeah I did too. Gangrene has set in tho. Not sure if we have the will to turn back now, or ??? Hey I still give the current union a decent chance! Like ten percent! Maybe 15. Anyway losing the FedGov bureaucracy doesn't have to mean we split up entirely. I mean, it might mean that? But it doesn't have to. Anyway I'm so unpatriotic I'm even loving this shutdown. So far it's been kind of fun. Eye-opening for a lot of people. Good medicine.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 15, 2013 06:38 PM (2up3Q)

256 Can one of them be America? I liked America.

Me, too, though I'm okay with calling it "Texas"

Posted by: Methos at October 15, 2013 06:38 PM (hO9ad)

257 "After two days in the desert sun my skin began to turn red" On BB season 3 now. Hai rons.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 15, 2013 06:38 PM (L4ZuH)

258 I think he might be doing it wrong. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 10:36 PM (DmNpO) It's a cat. A 15 yr old boy has a better chance of understanding women than anyone has of understanding cats.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 06:38 PM (GEICT)

259 I watched one of my cats come in from the backyard, use the litter box, then turn around and go back outside.

Sensible cat behavior.  He (she?) didn't want any hostiles coming across his/her spoor, so he/she deposited it an a known safe area.

Good cat.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:39 PM (FUbuZ)

260

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 10:35 PM (FUbuZ)

 

But its even easier to play that card if they don't have a Legal piece of paper to hold over your head...

 

There are a BUNCH of Women out there who think I'm an asshole... because I won't play their power games....

 

Me Man, you Woman... pretty much says it all....

 

And strangely... even after being divorced for over 20 years, I'm very seldom without a Lady at my side (key word being Lady... they are out there...).

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 15, 2013 06:39 PM (lZBBB)

261 OK, here are two side views of the 2014 Vette and a Ferrari California. A few line differences but very similar. http://tinyurl.com/ont4rbe http://tinyurl.com/ptzxup5 I so wish they could have updated a say 69' stingray sort of like they went retro with the Camero. Although they did that caddy angular bullshit with that too. It's like Chevy just doesn't know me anymore.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:39 PM (XIxXP)

262

There are two working theories on winning an argument against a woman.

 

 

 

 

Neither of them works.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 15, 2013 06:40 PM (BAS5M)

263 The thin veneer of civilization will come off once the LIVs realize their EBT cards don't work. A bad moon a risin'... Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 10:35 PM (0SmH0) sing it bro

Posted by: zip zip at October 15, 2013 06:40 PM (sb9Hq)

264 That hasn't been true for a long time.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 15, 2013 10:31 PM (Vk2pI)


The federal Damoclean Sword hangs over us all making us (states and citizens subjects) pretty much impotent. 


Like the Alaskan crabber that couldn't go crabbing because the permit issuing feds were shutdown.  It wasn't that he didn't know how to crab, didn't have a safe and proper vessel, didn't know where to crab, didn't know how to preserve his catch and deliver safe food to market, it was because some paper-pushing bureaucrat asshole was "unavailable" to push some kcufing paper his way, and because of that he was afraid to pursue his craft because of the future potential malevolent vindictive actions all too sure to come from a tyrannical government once it got back in business.


Posted by: Hrothgar at October 15, 2013 06:40 PM (XdnQT)

265


>>> They are so smokin' hot. And they will blow the doors off of anything on the road. <<<

 

 

For just over 200 miles.  Then they are worthless.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2013 06:41 PM (gP4+L)

266 Heres the story:

Tesla Motors founder Elon Musk said that the fire that broke out in the new electric car from a YouTube video that was posted last week spread because firfighters punctured a hole in a metal firewall.

A statement from Musk explained the following:

When the fire department arrived, they observed standard procedure, which was to gain access to the source of the fire by puncturing holes in the top of the batteryÂ’s protective metal plate and applying water. For the Model S lithium-ion battery, it was correct to apply water (vs. dry chemical extinguisher), but not to puncture the metal firewall, as the newly created holes allowed the flames to then vent upwards into the front trunk section of the Model S. Nonetheless, a combination of water followed by dry chemical extinguisher quickly brought the fire to an end.

-----

So, what they are saying is, carry a manual for EVERY "Green" car you find on fire. Take time to look up the model #, and by the time you review the proper way to extenguish the fire. Its burned down to the ground anyway..

Ok, Good to know!

Posted by: Jay Leno at October 15, 2013 06:41 PM (E7Iyp)

267 True but challenging. Their minds work so differently that a lifetime of study only gets you a little closer to comprehending it. Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 10:34 PM (bKA83) Agreed

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:41 PM (XIxXP)

268 212 I assume you've seen pics of the new 'Vette...from the front or rear, it looks like the lines come from the Caddy coupe, but broadside that thing is all Italy. It screams Ferrari when viewed from the side.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 10:21 PM (un8zR)


It's a Ferrari 550 with angles and the tail off a Camaro.

It is better than the last one but not that exciting. Mind you, ends are hard - in writing, films, and cars. So no shame in not thrilling.

Ultimately it will come down to build quality and handling. I doubt I will drive one for a while, so I'll have to see later. Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith at October 15, 2013 10:26 PM

The front end of a Viper, the side profile of a Ferrari 550, the rear of a Camaro. Kind of like the designers rummaged through the parts bin and mocked up a body

The chassis and suspension are much improved though, and the interior finally looks better than something from a rental fleet

The 63 might keep up in a straight line drag race, but forget a road race. The old Sting Rays were notorious for oversteer

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 06:41 PM (aTXUx)

269 Jennifer Connelly was my ultimate object of infatuation until I heard her bash Bush in typical libtard fashion during an interview.

Posted by: Disillusioned at October 15, 2013 06:41 PM (rkewj)

270 I think the new Camaro *looks* *way* better than the new Mustang. But both are needlessly cramped and the visibility is poorer than it should be, especially the Camaro. Car design doesn't make much sense as a driver, most of the time - the designers are all about packaging and style and engineering, which all matters - just not as much to the driver. And *that's* why a Ferrari costs $200,000.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:42 PM (qyfb5)

271 I owned a tanning salon for fifteen-plus years.

-You don't "understand" women.  You get along with them.

...As Kenny Rogers once said:  The Best That You Can Hope For is to Die in Your Sleep.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 06:42 PM (lq3Ak)

272 Sensible cat behavior. He (she?) didn't want any hostiles coming across his/her spoor, so he/she deposited it an a known safe area. Good cat. *** Really? There's a reason for such behavior?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 06:43 PM (DmNpO)

273 You guys would be so proud of me today! I did Yeats' The Second Coming in class today and when we got to the line about the best lacking conviction and the worst possessing passionate intensity, I pulled up pictures of the douche bag at the OWS rally pooping on the police car. NONE of them had seen this picture. I am fighting the good fight!

Posted by: Jmel at October 15, 2013 06:43 PM (cfFqn)

274 Damn, that sock was OLD!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 06:43 PM (E7Iyp)

275 251 i finally saw a Tesla Roadster here in the wild outside Seattle.

They are so smokin' hot. And they will blow the doors off of anything on the road. Srsly, it is the one car I can never have but would really like to take for a test drive.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2013 10:37 PM (8lmkt)

I can understand their cool factor, at least.  I live 3 miles from Nissan USA's new HQ just a piece down the interstate from Nashvegas, and there are a handful of Leafs (Leaves?) on the roads due to their VERY generous lease program on those cars.  If any of you know about the topography of TN, you know how rotten that is.  There's not a flat spot once you get 10 miles from Nashville, and following *those people* up an almost-mountain is infuriating.  If I win the Powerball big-time, my daily driver will be an Apache.  If not, I want a pair of 240Bs.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 06:43 PM (un8zR)

276

...As Kenny Rogers once said: The Best That You Can Hope For is to Die in Your Sleep.

. . . .

 

like my grandpa.  Peaceful.  Serene.  Not at all like the passengers in his car.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 15, 2013 06:44 PM (BAS5M)

277 The front end of a Viper, the side profile of a Ferrari 550, the rear of a Camaro. Kind of like the designers rummaged through the parts bin and mocked up a body The last one looked like a stretched RX-7. The 63 might keep up in a straight line drag race, Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 10:41 PM (aTXUx) No.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:44 PM (qyfb5)

278 The front end of a Viper, the side profile of a Ferrari 550, the rear of a Camaro. Kind of like the designers rummaged through the parts bin and mocked up a body ***** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWHniL8MyMM

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 06:44 PM (DmNpO)

279 Sweetie, you can marry, and you should. I honestly think it is something you yearn for, deep down, and maybe some little Alexes to sweeten the pot. You'd be an awesome husband and an amazing dad and you're already a super-cool dude so, please, don't go putting limits on what your life can be. I love you!

Aww, thank you But the truth is, as much as I may want the wife and family, I know that deep down I'm not a good person.  I fight against it, but I'm honest about who I am, and events in the last year reinforced it.  Besides, as I've told Gushka on a couple of occasions, I believe that this country is headed for a war.  I don't believe that I'll live through it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 15, 2013 06:44 PM (lr3d7)

280 "...like my grandpa. Peaceful. Serene. Not at all like the passengers in his car."
Posted by: Count de Monet

Old joke.  Still works.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 06:45 PM (lq3Ak)

281 Yeah, that old saw about there being "someone for everyone"? I don't believe that anymore. You can only hear so much of "You're a nice guy...but" before you start to figure it out.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 06:45 PM (5J54Q)

282 ...I won't play their power games....

 ...I'm very seldom without a Lady at my side (key word being Lady... they are out there...).


These two things are, I suspect, highly correlated.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:45 PM (FUbuZ)

283 236 I'm dubious about Pennsy

Cut loose Philadelphia and give it to NJ. Then PA would be fine.
Posted by: Purp at October 15, 2013 10:34 PM

"Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between" - James Carville

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 06:46 PM (aTXUx)

284 You can only hear so much of "You're a nice guy...but" before you start to figure it out. Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 10:45 PM (5J54Q) Oh, that's better than "Maybe someday you'll find..."

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:46 PM (qyfb5)

285 ♫ Don't pull your love out on me baby
If you do then I think that maybe I'll just lay me down
and cry for a hundred years
Don't pull your love out on me honey
Take my heart, my soul, my money
but don't leave me drowning in my tears ♫

(if quoting some bad 1970s hit music doesn't get Jeff B. rushing back in here, nothing will)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 06:46 PM (T/XcG)

286 You can only hear so much of "You're a nice guy...but" before you start to figure it out.

I was always a 'nice guy.'  I spent a two-week period one summer when I was in my 20's, when I decided to be as jerkish as I could to women.

I was never in my life as popular with women as I was in those two weeks.

It scared the hell out of me, honestly.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:47 PM (FUbuZ)

287 (if quoting some bad 1970s hit music doesn't get Jeff B. rushing back in here, nothing will) Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 10:46 PM (T/XcG) Dude, that's like leaving food out for the bugs because you're lonely.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:47 PM (qyfb5)

288 (if quoting some bad 1970s hit music doesn't get Jeff B. rushing back in here, nothing will) Posted by: qdpsteve at October 15, 2013 10:46 PM (T/XcG) Whoa.... Hamilton, Joe, Frank and Renolds

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:48 PM (XIxXP)

289 Yeah, that old saw about there being "someone for everyone"? I don't believe that anymore. You can only hear so much of "You're a nice guy...but" before you start to figure it out. ------------------------------------ "You can't always get what you want..." Took me 34 years to figure out what I "need". "Needs" and "Wants". Two different things. It can take a life time to distinguish between the two. Or seem like it anyway.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 06:48 PM (4Mv1T)

290 I was never in my life as popular with women as I was in those two weeks. It scared the hell out of me, honestly. Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 10:47 PM (FUbuZ) I figured I would have to keep it up. Like going dancing to meet a woman and then never dancing again so she's perpetually disappointed.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:48 PM (qyfb5)

291 Oh, that's better than "Maybe someday you'll find..."

It's not you...it's me.

Posted by: That woman at October 15, 2013 06:48 PM (Dwehj)

292 "Oh, that's better than "Maybe someday you'll find..."
Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith

Damn.  I'll marry you, but it won't be "all cool".  We can figure it out after I get the hookers.
 

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 06:49 PM (lq3Ak)

293 286. And that is what I will never, ever understand. 288. Yeah. Played that on the show today.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 06:49 PM (5J54Q)

294 I was always a 'nice guy.' I spent a two-week period one summer when I was in my 20's, when I decided to be as jerkish as I could to women. I was never in my life as popular with women as I was in those two weeks. It scared the hell out of me, honestly. Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 10:47 PM (FUbuZ) I spent months trying to be the nice guy and convince a girl (now my wife) to be with me. Finally I got fed up and started dating/screwing the first girl that showed some interest. Two weeks after the now wife found out, she was mine. It makes no sense, but most of the time, being a jerk gets the job done.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 06:49 PM (GEICT)

295 Damn. I'll marry you, Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 10:49 PM (lq3Ak) To whom?

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:49 PM (qyfb5)

296 omg the libs on my FB feed have discovered Peter King shoot me

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 15, 2013 06:49 PM (2up3Q)

297 Dude, that's like leaving food out for the bugs because you're lonely.

lol

Posted by: That woman at October 15, 2013 06:49 PM (Dwehj)

298 It's not you...it's me. Posted by: That woman at October 15, 2013 10:48 PM (Dwehj) Or ooops, your credit cards are maxed out.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:50 PM (XIxXP)

299 291- and the tried and true, "We can always be friends." or the equally insulting, "You're like a brother to meÂ…"

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 06:50 PM (0SmH0)

300 293 286. And that is what I will never, ever understand. Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 10:49 PM (5J54Q) Manipulators historically win. Winners are good providers. Oh, of course it's more complicated than that. I just *hate* manipulators and won't be one. I know there's a price.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:51 PM (qyfb5)

301 "You're like a brother to meÂ…" Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 10:50 PM (0SmH0) Translated, "you dump all your bullshit problems on me and we don't fuck."

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:51 PM (XIxXP)

302 I make the Viper hood, roof, and liftgate as well... We took over 100+ pounds off the Viper...carbon fiber, bitches (For The Record, I really don't want to keep saying "bitches", it's just that it works in this context)

Posted by: AltonJackson is in The Stoopid Business™ at October 15, 2013 06:51 PM (JMmQ9)

303 "To whom?"

 Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith

...To The First Nice Lady That Comes Along, Son.  ...the first nice lady.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 06:51 PM (lq3Ak)

304 Careful, Merovign, or Jeff might ban you from his blog.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 15, 2013 06:52 PM (eJvk4)

305 Not to be all Captain Downer, but I think I've already had my shot. I'm poor, not in good health (stupid diabetes) and not all that great looking. Besides all that, I'd be a pretty good catch.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 06:52 PM (5J54Q)

306 I asked my GF why she was being so stubborn about something. And if she'd rather I just went and dated someone else. (which she has told me to do once or twice before that)

She said "I don't know"

Sigh... Tho, I guess thats an improvement.

She's got some X issues. I want to beat the shit outta him.

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 06:53 PM (E7Iyp)

307 Besides all that, I'd be a pretty good catch. Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 10:52 PM (5J54Q) Hey, attitude is everything.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:53 PM (XIxXP)

308 We took over 100+ pounds off the Viper...carbon fiber, bitches (For The Record, I really don't want to keep saying "bitches", it's just that it works in this context) Posted by: AltonJackson is in The Stoopid Business™ at October 15, 2013 10:51 PM (JMmQ9) I came *this close* to a carbon fiber hood for cheap from someone who made them professionally. Wish I had found a way. The hood on my 7 weighs like the same as the resat of the car or something. Okay maybe slightly less. It's ridiculous, anyway. *ahem* Bitches.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:53 PM (qyfb5)

309 I've still got a stack of Membership Cards.  We can Cold-Call and see what's up.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 06:53 PM (lq3Ak)

310 It makes no sense, but most of the time, being a jerk gets the job done. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 10:49 PM (GEICT) Then I am hopelessly screwed. That's just not my nature.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 06:53 PM (5J54Q)

311 I am no kind of catch at all.

Posted by: Jack at October 15, 2013 06:53 PM (gWHwW)

312 Careful, Merovign, or Jeff might ban you from his blog.
Posted by: andycanuck

HAH!

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 06:54 PM (lq3Ak)

313 Translated, "you dump all your bullshit problems on me and we don't fuck."/i]

Second look at Arkansas?

/hey, I live in Missouri now.  We have to look down on somebody.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:54 PM (FUbuZ)

314

Thus endeth the italics?

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:54 PM (FUbuZ)

315 Ah.  Still a barrel-virgin.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:55 PM (FUbuZ)

316 306- Jarvis, I dated a wench who pulled similar stunts and had X issues as well. the relationship didn't end well. i wish you luck!

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 06:55 PM (0SmH0)

317 My son is studying Aquinas, his deduction - so he was like a blogger

Posted by: Jean at October 15, 2013 06:55 PM (CMlD4)

318 Nice catch, Cap'n filbert!

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 06:55 PM (lq3Ak)

319 Anyway losing the FedGov bureaucracy doesn't have to mean we split up entirely.

This country has had several mass population migrations in the past. 

After the revolution, loyalists were driven out over the span of about 10 years and moved to Canada, various Caribbean islands, etc.

After losing the civil war the south had a massive influx of carpet baggers looking to feast on reconstruction booty.

During the depression and WWII there was a massive migration from rural to urban areas.

And of course all the forced Indian relocation onto reservations and such.

Encouraged/forced relocation may seem unthinkable, but its happened in the past quite a bit as the aftermath of conflict.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 15, 2013 06:56 PM (l5zzX)

320 I'm a confirmed bachelor and likely to remain so. I'm just too selfish. Unless it is pocket change, no lady is worth it.

Posted by: Jack at October 15, 2013 06:56 PM (gWHwW)

321 Posted by: AltonJackson is in The Stoopid Business™ at October 15, 2013 10:51 PM (JMmQ9)


Are you guys one of the OEMs making CF rifle handguards?  I'm in the market at the moment.  /not a gun thread

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 06:56 PM (un8zR)

322 Then I am hopelessly screwed. That's just not my nature. Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 10:53 PM (5J54Q) Neither am I, typically. The weird thing is, I was (and am) so crazy about her, that I was willing to do just about anything to get her. Here's what I figured: either she'll find out that I'm banging this other chick and it'll drive her nuts or she won't care at all. Either way, I'd get an answer.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 06:56 PM (GEICT)

323 Careful, Merovign, or Jeff might ban you from his blog. Posted by: andycanuck at October 15, 2013 10:52 PM (eJvk4) I don't *care.*

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:56 PM (qyfb5)

324 She said "I don't know"

I think that translates into Male-ese as "No, silly, but I really don't want to open myself up like that right now."

I think.

Now, understand, I don't know either of you from Adam and Eve . . .

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 06:57 PM (FUbuZ)

325

All this women talk reminds me of a great joke.  Why do Jewish men die before their wives?

........

Because they WANT to! 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 15, 2013 06:57 PM (jucos)

326 If Jeff gets posting privileges here......I quit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 06:58 PM (GEICT)

327 New neighbor moving in. Hours of pounding and slamming for days. Anyone know of a fucking abandoned mineshaft I can move into?

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 06:58 PM (qyfb5)

328 326 If Jeff gets posting privileges here......I quit. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 10:58 PM (GEICT) The Empire guy?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 06:59 PM (5J54Q)

329 If Jeff gets posting privileges here......I quit. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 10:58 PM (GEICT) He keeps Gabe so the bar aint real high.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 06:59 PM (XIxXP)

330 Thanks Secret.

I don't want to date anyone else. (and told her many times) We have more in common than anyone else I ever met. So if she'd just realize I'm NOT HIM...

Eh.. lol.

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 06:59 PM (E7Iyp)

331 Well, for you bachelors in the group, this should make you run right out and get married. http://t.co/aTnB8m8Lw9

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 06:59 PM (DmNpO)

332 Either way, I'd get an answer.

The problem is when that answer arrives in the form of a steak knife in the chest some night, or your junk getting shoved down the disposal.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 15, 2013 06:59 PM (l5zzX)

333 Anybody else sick of the Nationwide commercial with the baby and the Mickey and Sylvia "Love Is Strange" song

It comes on every damn commercial break no matter what channel I have on

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 07:00 PM (aTXUx)

334 The Empire guy? Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 10:59 PM (5J54Q) No, the other one.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 07:00 PM (GEICT)

335 Young Marine buddy just arrived.  He's a sweet, tall, baby-face.

I called his mom in MO to let her know he was fine.  He's taking a shower now and about to go to bed. 

Jeebus, drove all the way from MO to Savannah in a day.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 07:00 PM (lVPtV)

336 320 I'm a confirmed bachelor and likely to remain so.


I'm just too selfish. Unless it is pocket change, no lady is worth it.

Posted by: Jack at October 15, 2013 10:56 PM (gWHwW)


I'm not quite there yet, but the women in my age group (late 20s to mid 30s) are pushing me that way.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 15, 2013 07:00 PM (un8zR)

337 Roll out the barrel

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 07:00 PM (aDwsi)

338 Yeah filbert. She doesn't want to make any serious decisions. Likes the status quo.

I guess.. She really wont tell me what her hangup is.

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:00 PM (E7Iyp)

339 The problem is when that answer arrives in the form of a steak knife in the chest some night, or your junk getting shoved down the disposal. Posted by: Purp at October 15, 2013 10:59 PM (l5zzX) Ummmm....the fuck?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (GEICT)

340 you all have a great night!

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (0SmH0)

341 I love JeffB's music posts.  The rest of his rhetoric?  ...I don't post about it.  ...Much like Gabe's offerings.  I stay away because there is too much shit in the fan.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (lq3Ak)

342 After losing the civil war the south had a massive influx of carpet baggers looking to feast on reconstruction booty.

McAuliffe got a late start.

Posted by: Jean at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (CMlD4)

343 Well, for you bachelors in the group, this should make you run right out and get married. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 10:59 PM (DmNpO) I'm still not gonna kill myself, no matter what you say.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (qyfb5)

344 Well, the second link above, in which Mencken recounts his marriage five years following his wife's death, was much better than the excerpted garbage he wrote before he met her. Life is full of good relationships and bad. I find these Great Expositions about the sexes such as the one above really tiresome. I guess their a type of intellectual "binky" to sooth unhappy people or something.

Posted by: Y-not at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (5H6zj)

345 Capt Whitebread- As an elder member of the Horde, albeit lately absent, despite what some here have said, being a jerk is not what gets the job done. It is confidence, pure and simple, (which can sometimes appear jerkish, ((Lord knows I am guilty)). Jerks are jerks. Confidence can win the day. And I'll not accept any dissenting remarks. Because I'm old and confident (and jerkish) like that.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (4Mv1T)

346 Evening all. Audio of Rep. McClintock on the floor yesterday regarding the upcoming Constitutional crisis. http://tinyurl.com/lw2aogr

Posted by: RWC at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (LpbKr)

347 The game is fully rigged against men now. The only way to win is to not play.

Posted by: Computer from the movie War Games at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (rkewj)

348 The problem is when that answer arrives in the form of a steak knife in the chest some night, or your junk getting shoved down the disposal. Posted by: Purp at October 15, 2013 10:59 PM (l5zzX) I havn't dated in over twenty years. What I understand is there is a large swath of lovely women between the ages of 40 and 50, some aren't real FKD up, who are looking for a GOOD man.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (XIxXP)

349 So basically you don't like women? That's sound about right for someone in the Tea Party

Posted by: John at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (wFMAq)

350 328 326 If Jeff gets posting privileges here......I quit.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 10:58 PM (GEICT)

The Empire guy? Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 10:59 PM

No, JeffB

Empire of Jeff as a cob? I'd almost pay for his cob threads

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 07:01 PM (aTXUx)

351 The blog is flying tonight.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 07:02 PM (lq3Ak)

352 I called his mom in MO to let her know he was fine. He's taking a shower now and about to go to bed. ----------- Uh Jane..., hes a freaking Marine. You called his mother?!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 07:02 PM (aDwsi)

353 315 Ah. Still a barrel-virgin.

For now. Hope you succeed -- it's really unpleasant in there. I think some rotting mackerel had a stay in there at some point.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 07:02 PM (bKA83)

354 Hours of pounding and slamming for days.

If I ever buy another crib, I'm gonna make sure the closest neighbors are at least 1/2 mile away, with the place preferably surrounded on three sides by a swamp, thick forest, or desert.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 15, 2013 07:03 PM (l5zzX)

355 'Night all.  Trying to ignore the urge to put Marine former-Obamabot too much knowledge.

From speaking to his former Obamabot mom this evening, he needs all the help he can get.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 07:03 PM (lVPtV)

356

Missed out on the earlier topical threads, so just gonna dump some observations here.

 

Those of a certain vintage will recall how, in 1979 (1980?  see, I've already stumbled - but it's one or the other) Jimmy Carter's last/penultimate budget was "rejected" by the bond market.  Yes, folks, back then, we actually had a bond market.  That was willing/able to act rationally, like a market, and reject crap when it saw it.  And not just front-run or react to the Fed.

 

The Carter deficit projection - even if low-balled as you'd expect - was simply unacceptable.  And we're talking, probably, when adjusted for inflation, probably one month's deficit here, at most, maybe less.  And a much, much lower % of the GDP than today's deficit represents - and of course the national debt burden was a fraction of today's. 

 

A few phone calls between the Treasury Sec., the Fed chairman, and the primary dealers (the firms that buy/re-sell govt. paper), and presto - budget withdrawn.  I know - impossible to imagine a world in which there were real markets, acting as real constraints on govt. incompetence - hell, even a Dem party that was in some substantial way American.

 

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at October 15, 2013 07:03 PM (afQnV)

357 Empire of Jeff as a cob? I'd almost pay for his cob threads Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 11:01 PM (aTXUx) No shit. Although I don't think Ace would go for it. He seems to try and avoid profanity laced rants on the front page. And there's no way EoJ could do that.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 07:03 PM (GEICT)

358 Heres more on the Burning Tesla that they blamed on the fire dept..

Tesla Motors shares have fallen 10 percent since the release of a YouTube video that showed the Model S on fire in a town near Seattle.

Multiple news outlets are reporting that the cause of the fire started in the battery pack. A statement from Tesla said that the $70,000 car collided with a large metallic object in the middle of the road, causing significant damage to the vehicle.

“Automatic alerts warned the driver to pull over,” the statement said, “and the fire began only after the driver was out of the vehicle. The fire eventually consumed much of the vehicle’s front end.”

---

So, the driver is an idiot for hitting whatever is in the road. Or, the tesla is so fragile what he was used to hitting in his Civic and brushing off, now destroys $70k and change!!


Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:04 PM (E7Iyp)

359

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 10:49 PM (GEICT)

 

Its actually pretty simple... just weird...

 

If no other woman wants, or can have you.... then you are not worth having...

 

Its like most don't value something if they get it for free....

 

When they can suddenly LOOSE you?  Then you are a hot commodity again...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 15, 2013 07:04 PM (lZBBB)

360 The game is fully rigged against men now. The only way to win is to not play.>>

And by this get a vasectomy at 18? Their only power is the baby purse.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 15, 2013 07:04 PM (okL9f)

361 My wife once started backing away from the stove and I provided the soundtrack..... "Beep beep beep beep" ..... My kids still talk about it,  Initially Momma didn't think it was that funny.... now she sees the humor in it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 15, 2013 07:05 PM (jucos)

362 She really wont tell me what her hangup is.

I dunno why, but "Bad Shit" bells began ringing in my brain.  As in X may have done bad shit unto the girl.  If that's a possibility, and she's otherwise seemingly worth the effort, then patience is perhaps warranted and might be amply rewarded.

If she's just a head-case, however . . . well . . . it would depend on how good the sex is, and I really can't personally imagine the sex ever possibly being THAT good . . . IMHO of course . . .

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 07:05 PM (FUbuZ)

363
Uh Jane..., hes a freaking Marine. You called his mother?!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 11:02 PM (aDwsi)




Yeah, he's a FORMER Marine.  And his parents are FORMER Obamabots.



And I called his clueless mother because he didn't. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 07:05 PM (lVPtV)

364 Good evening, Horde. And good night. Tired Gingy is tired.

Posted by: Gingy at October 15, 2013 07:05 PM (jt8G9)

365 'Involved' driving? Try a 60's Austin Healey 3000. It is akin to trying to drive a steam locomotive that has gone off of the tracks. Rather visceral by today's standards. Took a ride in a '68 Miura a while back. All of those wet dreams of my youth were wasted. It's a crude, brutal ride.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 07:05 PM (aDwsi)

366 323 Careful, Merovign, or Jeff might ban you from his blog.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 15, 2013 10:52 PM (eJvk4)


I don't *care.* Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith at October 15, 2013 10:56 PM

I Love It!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxxajLWwzqY

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 07:06 PM (aTXUx)

367 344 Life is full of good relationships and bad. I find these Great Expositions about the sexes such as the one above really tiresome. I guess their a type of intellectual "binky" to sooth unhappy people or something.

Heh. My wife was offended by the mere title of a Mencken book I bought. It was "In Defense of Women."

I think you have the right view, though. It's man-venting. I figure if all you see is predatory, gold-digging women, you're hanging out in the wrong places. But I'm lucky -- I found the right one, years ago, and have been happy ever since.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 07:06 PM (bKA83)

368 with the place preferably surrounded on three sides by a swamp, thick forest, or desert.>>

Dump sites?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 15, 2013 07:06 PM (okL9f)

369 Judicial Watch Sues IRS over Tea Party Scandals...

http://tinyurl.com/mpz286j

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 07:07 PM (lq3Ak)

370 364 'Involved' driving? Try a 60's Austin Healey 3000. It is akin to trying to drive a steam locomotive that has gone off of the tracks. Rather visceral by today's standards.

Took a ride in a '68 Miura a while back. All of those wet dreams of my youth were wasted. It's a crude, brutal ride. Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 11:05 PM

Try driving a 70s Buick or Chrysler

Like driving the Queen Mary through The Everglades

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 07:07 PM (aTXUx)

371 Gingy - Heard a lady on TV tonight talking about going on a Scottish wool-crawl. She spoke a little about Scottish wools. Interesting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 07:07 PM (aDwsi)

372 so, who is here?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:08 PM (Z9EHQ)

373 If I ever buy another crib, I'm gonna make sure the closest neighbors are at least 1/2 mile away, with the place preferably surrounded on three sides by a swamp, thick forest, or desert. Posted by: Purp at October 15, 2013 11:03 PM (l5zzX) Me? I'd love to have like 5 or 10 acres, clear an acre or two in the middle and build there. Wife thinks I'm nuts.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 07:08 PM (GEICT)

374 Posted by: non-purist at October 15, 2013 11:03 PM (afQnV)

What is this "budget" thing of which you speak, stranger from another time?

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 07:08 PM (FUbuZ)

375 Well, now that our former Obamabot Marine is happily settled into our best guest room, I can go to bed.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 07:08 PM (lVPtV)

376 I Love It!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxxajLWwzqY

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 11:06 PM

Warning; Icona Pop is another attempt by Scandis to infiltrate the Surface People World

Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 07:08 PM (aTXUx)

377 McAuliffe got a late start.

Posted by: Jean at October 15, 2013 11:01 PM (CMlD4)


But he is as sleazy as the worst of the original Reconstruction carpetbaggers, you might say he is a Deconstruction carpetbagger.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 15, 2013 07:08 PM (XdnQT)

378 lol Mencken via Lerner & Loewe
http://youtu.be/Y6sb-vOFqCU

Posted by: laura Walker at October 15, 2013 07:08 PM (4k9jW)

379 Try driving a 70s Buick or Chrysler A GS with a 455 is big fun.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 07:08 PM (XIxXP)

380 361 Yeah, shes very smart, and the X is a total dickhead. wont help with the kids etc, so I can only imagine what else he did.

But at least she knows she's not acting "normal". So, thats a start.

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (E7Iyp)

381 Back in the mid-'70s I got to drive my dad's car sometimes.  It was a '68 Olds Cutlass.  You more sorta aimed it than steered it.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (BAS5M)

382 Marmol in as the closer? Dodgers are doomed.

Posted by: Mama winger on that iPad thingies at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (P6QsQ)

383 And I called his clueless mother because he didn't.

Apple.  Tree.  Gravity.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (FUbuZ)

384 345 Thanks, TR. Now if I could only find somewhere I could get a confidence transplant. And thanks, Horde, for letting me vent. It's just been another round of battling the old black dog of depression...sometimes I wonder if that's also a complication of my diabetes...I'll get better again. For now, I just wonder how my unfaithful ex ends up in a happy marriage while I can't get out of the Friend Zone. Ah, this too, shall pass. Maybe I should go look at the Jennifer Connelly pictures again.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (5J54Q)

385 Like driving the Queen Mary through The Everglades Posted by: kbdabear --------------------------- Actually, one car that I would like in my fantasy stable is a late model Buick Roadmaster Station wagon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (aDwsi)

386 372 Me? I'd love to have like 5 or 10 acres, clear an acre or two in the middle and build there.

If you want privacy, hills are your friend.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (bKA83)

387 "You're a nice guy...but"

In my day it was

"Can't we just be friends?"

Posted by: navybrat at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (RakrK)

388 The best ride ever is a 356 Porsche.

Posted by: manometer at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (vjrgd)

389 'Night all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (lVPtV)

390 so, who is here? Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 11:08 PM (Z9EHQ) *raises hand* Not me. I'm not.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 07:09 PM (qyfb5)

391 258 It's a cat. A 15 yr old boy has a better chance of understanding women than anyone has of understanding cats. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 10:38 PM (GEICT) I understand cats much better than I do women.

Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2013 07:10 PM (sdi6R)

392 367 I skipped the crib reference and was focused on the bad marriage theme.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 15, 2013 07:10 PM (okL9f)

393 If you want privacy, hills are your friend. Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 11:09 PM (bKA83) And nonexistent in Florida.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 07:10 PM (GEICT)

394 G'Night Jane.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 07:10 PM (XIxXP)

395 You more sorta aimed it than steered it.

America produced sofas on wheels, not driving machines.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 15, 2013 07:10 PM (l5zzX)

396 f you want privacy, hills are your friend.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 11:09 PM (bKA83)



And nonexistent in Florida.

Posted by: BCochran1981

Then go with sailboat.


Posted by: Jean at October 15, 2013 07:11 PM (CMlD4)

397 G'night, Jane.

*I'm not here, either.

I'm supposed to be out by the Fire Pit, but The Rains came.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 07:11 PM (lq3Ak)

398 I understand cats much better than I do women. Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2013 11:10 PM (sdi6R) You could draw some Parallels.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 15, 2013 07:11 PM (XIxXP)

399 387 The best ride ever is a 356 Porsche.

Especially if you want to be well-informed about every flaw in the road surface.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 07:11 PM (bKA83)

400 If you want privacy, hills are your friend.>>

Or in the country acting like a dick works too.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 15, 2013 07:11 PM (okL9f)

401 Not me. I'm not. Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith whew, I was trying to avoid you.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:11 PM (Z9EHQ)

402 Husbands? I got the one and only for me. We don't fight, but we have the make-up sex anyway. I'm thinking it's all good, unless this is some sort of odd dream.

Posted by: tcn at October 15, 2013 07:12 PM (fwcEs)

403

So in the car on the way to the gym, Hewitt is talking to Goldberg, and one of the most jaw-droppingly stupid exchanges (to include the limp guests Hugh had in the studio who were participating) so far, from "conservative" pundits, transpires.

Most idiotic part was the broad agreement that the difference between, say, Cruz and Cornyn (Corker?) was a disagreement on tactics.  Not substance.  Ya know, McCain, Graham, Collins, Murkowski, Chmn Rogers of House Approps - they're all on the same page as a Cruz/Lee/McClintock - just trivial tactical differences.

 

I was shocked, more than 20 years ago, when a US Senator asked me to comment on an op-ed column and send it to him.  I couldn't believe a senator actually read that shit - which I hadn't read since college (in general - and this was before the advent of almost uniformly clueless lightweights on the "prestigious" op-ed pages, as we have today).  One absolutely unfixable problem - to go along with the others that have brought us to this pathetic and disastrous state - is that we have a pretty mediocre "conservative" pundit class.  Mediocre, or worse.  As evidenced by the jaw-droppingly hallucinogenic friendly little agreement-fest between Hewitt, Goldberg, and the others.  Very unimpressive.

 

Posted by: non-purist at October 15, 2013 07:12 PM (afQnV)

404 So here's a thing... For some totally bizarre reason my sister "gave" my dad a DNA ancestry test thingy from Ancestry.com. (Dad was adopted and never got a straight answer from his family about the circumstances of his birth.) Anyway, according to that test he's something like 90% Dirty Scandi! Fortunately, I did some digging and looks like those tests are complete crappola, so I'm pretty sure he's (and me, by extension) a Filthy Mick, after all.

Posted by: Y-not at October 15, 2013 07:12 PM (5H6zj)

405 Swamp. Nobody bothers you there. In the swamp.

Posted by: Swamp Guy at October 15, 2013 07:12 PM (rkewj)

406 Merovign, are you poking the weasel in its den again?

Mike Hammer, the Miura faithfully transmits the road conditions to your kidneys.  Alas your kidneys are no longer as young as they used to be.

Tesla cars make news because they are expensive exotics.  No one even blinks when an Impala catches fire.  But Tesla did themselves no favours over the bricking issue instead of just sucking up the charge to avoid bad PR, they charged their monied idiot buyers full cost to replace the dead battery packs.  And this battery pack and its bricking issue is in the more 'affordable' S like the one that caught fire.  And what kind of protective engineering has Tesla done to protect the cables?  Sounds like slim to none which is a shame considering the price tag.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:12 PM (bfAee)

407 Marmol in as the closer? Dodgers are doomed....no shit

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 15, 2013 07:12 PM (/7Xis)

408 397 Bill Cosby's "Come-here comeherecomeherecomehere... Go AWAY Goawaygoawaygoaway"

Comes to mind...

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:12 PM (E7Iyp)

409 The best ride ever is a 356 Porsche. Especially if you want to be well-informed about every flaw in the road surface. Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 20 apparently you have never met my senior prom date.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:12 PM (Z9EHQ)

410 324 She said "I don't know"

I think that translates into Male-ese as "No, silly, but I really don't want to open myself up like that right now."

I think.

Now, understand, I don't know either of you from Adam and Eve . . .

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 10:57 PM (FUbuZ)

===

May I venture an opinion, gents? 

It means " I don't know".  As in "I don't know if I can trust you the way you want me to and that's not your fault, I want to trust you but I've been jacked up in the past and I find it very difficult to believe you are not going to hurt me too. Please understand this is NOT your fault, but when you ask me this question I know it IS my problem and I don't really want to punish you and hurt you but I really like being with you and......... I just don't know."

Posted by: madamemayhem at October 15, 2013 07:12 PM (S2RnE)

411 Thanks, TR. Now if I could only find somewhere I could get a confidence transplant. I wish I could help you. Everyone tells me I seem pretty confident, in fact people frequently assume I'm in charge of things when I'm just visiting places. Don't help me none. And thanks, Horde, for letting me vent. It's just been another round of battling the old black dog of depression...sometimes I wonder if that's also a complication of my diabetes... Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 11:09 PM (5J54Q) I ain't gonna criticize someone too much for venting. My mini-rant on Diabeetus - it's often a symptom of something else no-one bothers diagnosing, and yes, that *could* also be a cause of clinical depression. It's not a precise science but it's worth checking out, even though it can legally fubar your life in subtle ways. YAY.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 07:13 PM (qyfb5)

412

The best ride ever is a 356 Porsche.

 

 

Let's race!



Posted by: Zombie James Dean at October 15, 2013 07:13 PM (BAS5M)

413 And nonexistent in Florida. That's news to its center.

Posted by: Theodore Dreiser at October 15, 2013 07:13 PM (gQKHE)

414 Marmol isn't "closing".  They're down by two.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 07:14 PM (lq3Ak)

415 373 Posted by: non-purist at October 15, 2013 11:03 PM (afQnV) What is this "budget" thing of which you speak, stranger from another time? Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 11:08 PM (FUbuZ) I remember MFM reporters openly ragging on Carter on National TV. Then Reagan came and there was a Great Purge and then the First Bush and then the Bubba Time. The Hillbeast wandered the land in those days and no carpet was safe. The Madness of 2000 then struck our land and many of the Dem Clan fell into the Twisted Abyss.

Posted by: eman at October 15, 2013 07:14 PM (AO9UG)

416 America produced sofas on wheels, not driving machines.>>

Not all. Mustang, And the unsafe at any speed car were for there day good drivers.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 15, 2013 07:14 PM (okL9f)

417 new post up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 07:14 PM (DmNpO)

418 The best ride ever is a 356 Porsche.
Posted by: manometer

Gotta go with a woodie Morgan to really feel the road, or a skateboard with metal wheels

Posted by: Jean at October 15, 2013 07:15 PM (CMlD4)

419 whew, I was trying to avoid you. Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 11:11 PM (Z9EHQ) Good timing.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 07:15 PM (qyfb5)

420 Especially if you want to be well-informed about every flaw in the road surface.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 11:11 PM (bKA83)


Guess you have never driven a Morgan. 

Posted by: manometer at October 15, 2013 07:15 PM (vjrgd)

421 And nonexistent in Florida. Posted by: BCochran1981 Then go with sailboat. *** I-75 has some beautiful rolling hills.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 07:15 PM (DmNpO)

422 There is an interesting letter from the USDA to SNAP regional directors over at Weasel Zippers.  It directs states to hold their November issuance files and delay transmission to State EBT vendors until further notice.  http://tinyurl.com/kejq6ye

Posted by: no good deed at October 15, 2013 07:15 PM (k55Fc)

423 405 Merovign, are you poking the weasel in its den again? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 11:12 PM (bfAee) Does it sound like I'm having any more luck getting my weasel in... Wait, did I misunderstand that metaphor?

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 07:16 PM (qyfb5)

424 Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 11:09 PM (E7Iyp)

The smart ones can screw themselves into the ground right nicely.  I have a sister who did that.

Steady and calm is the prescription, I think.  God be with you (and that's from someone who's not particularly religious, BTW).

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 07:16 PM (FUbuZ)

425 Dean was killed by an American wallowing instead of smartly merging with their under powered land yacht.  Two tons of recycled M-4 Sherman tank versus a Porsche Spyder, the Spyder will lose.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:16 PM (bfAee)

426 409 Thanks. Thats pretty much the way I took it.

She wont give me the chance to help her out with much of anything, and thats what I like to do is tinker and fix things. (cars, some electronics, etc) So that frustrates me, and thus our impasse.

I'm giving it a lil time right now. And I'll try again in a few more days.

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:17 PM (E7Iyp)

427 new post up

Isn't that against the rules or something?

Do we have to put our pants back on?

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 07:17 PM (FUbuZ)

428 LOL  Merovign your metaphor meter may vary from what I was meaning.  But never mind.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:17 PM (bfAee)

429 423 Thanks Filbert!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:18 PM (E7Iyp)

430 @403: Y-Not, was thinking of doing one of those. What did you find out?

Posted by: RovingCopyEditor at October 15, 2013 07:18 PM (vRdWg)

431 new post up If a blog decides to step on its dick in the woods does it make a noise?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:18 PM (Z9EHQ)

432
   Nothing at all wrong with driving a living room on wheels. Those cars weren't MADE to handle like sports cars.

   You can roll 800 miles in a Lincoln and not feel like you've been beaten with a 2x4.

   Much preferable to being bounced like a bb in a boxcar.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 15, 2013 07:18 PM (SAMxH)

433 Heh. Doing some research for the husband on Hospitality Management programs and stumbled into this unfortunate phrasing from a school in Colorado: "The Hospitality industry is the 2nd largest industry in Colorado. Everyone eats, drinks, sleeps and interacts with others."

Posted by: Y-not at October 15, 2013 07:18 PM (5H6zj)

434 Warden can keep his 404Care thread, I ain't moving.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:19 PM (bfAee)

435 stuff Oscar Wilde said.

Wilde was married, but . . . he's much better known for doing time in prison for teh ghey. Anything he said about women should be taken with a heaping dose of salt. He reportedly told his boyfriends in later life that he was revolted by his wife after her second pregnancy.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 15, 2013 07:19 PM (5G5KR)

436 I-75 has some beautiful rolling hills. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 11:15 PM (DmNpO) I've lived in MD and visited Minn, TN, NC and AL. I've yet to see anything that qualifies as "hills" here in FL.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 07:19 PM (GEICT)

437 Gotta go with a woodie Morgan to really feel the road, or a skateboard with metal wheels

Posted by: Jean at October 15, 2013 11:15 PM (CMlD4)


Rebuilt a Morgan Drop Head Coupe from the frame up and that is a true statement.

Posted by: manometer at October 15, 2013 07:19 PM (vjrgd)

438 Ummm....who is "Warden"?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 07:19 PM (GEICT)

439 Dinner out tonight with progs. Most entertaining! Unbounded stupidity unfettered by facts. Conservatives were monsters, terrorists, holding the country hostage! What do they want! Everyone hates them! They hate the people! The rich should pay more! I said I wish there would be a vote on not giving subsidies to Congress, and a repeal of the medical device tax. The table agreed, loudly. Then I said they must be Republicans cause that the proposal Harry Reid won't allow. Pandemonium followed. Then I told them their premiums, deductibles, and taxes were going to explode. Why should Congress be exempt from that! Knashing of the teeth and sputtering. Then one proclaimed Obama was a moderate. At which point I stated that in all the dozens of other shut downs, monuments were not barricaded, death benefits to families of the fallen were paid, and priests weren't forbidden from ministering to service members. Outrage! I had such a wonderful time. Tide. It's turning

Posted by: Thunderb at October 15, 2013 07:20 PM (zOTsN)

440 There is an interesting letter from the USDA to SNAP regional directors over at Weasel Zippers. It directs states to hold their November issuance files and delay transmission to State EBT vendors until further notice. http://tinyurl.com/kejq6ye Posted by: no good deed

The real financial dropdead point is 1 Nov

Posted by: Jean at October 15, 2013 07:20 PM (CMlD4)

441 Warden can keep his 404Care thread, I ain't moving.

You look better w/o pants anyway, if I do say so myself.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 07:20 PM (FUbuZ)

442 Thunderb living up to her nickname.  And cutting like a surgeon.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:21 PM (bfAee)

443 Pretty sure all of the NC morons know about this, but for Porschebots, a show at the NC Art Museum: http://ncartmuseum.org/exhibition/porsche-by-design-seducing-speed

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 07:21 PM (aDwsi)

444 Pants?  I am probably committing an AoS faux-pas but I prefer shorts.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:22 PM (bfAee)

445 I've yet to see anything that qualifies as "hills" here in FL.

The rest of the country calls them "overpasses."

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 07:22 PM (FUbuZ)

446 Well done Thunderb. The best of times.

Posted by: manometer at October 15, 2013 07:22 PM (vjrgd)

447 The "I just like you as a friend" stuff I could handle.  It's the agreeing to dates and then not showing up that pisses me off. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 15, 2013 07:22 PM (lr3d7)

448 Okay, I like the little blurb about winning a Porsche.

A VW Karmann Ghia one time made into the New York City Metropolitan as a piece of art, not as an auto per se.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:23 PM (bfAee)

449 A VW Karmann Ghia one time made into the New York City Metropolitan as a piece of art, not as an auto per se. Posted by: Anna Puma ------------------- Probably had a burned out #3 cylinder.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 07:24 PM (aDwsi)

450 I had such a wonderful time. Tide. It's turning Posted by: Thunderb at October 15, 2013 1 Interestingly, I have had similar experiences lately. Had enough, screw 'em if it is gonna get me hated it is what it is. No more smiling and nodding in a roomful of ny liberals. my dinner companions blanched when, after going on a tirade for five mins about cruz I said "I agree with nearly everything he says."

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:24 PM (Z9EHQ)

451 This just popped into my head for some odd reason..

MST3K: Pants!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpWOvK-mz7U

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:24 PM (E7Iyp)

452 429 @403: Y-Not, was thinking of doing one of those. What did you find out? --- I didn't see the results, just heard about them from my dad while talking on the phone the other day. He seemed a little vague about it. I gather it was something my sister wanted to do. But there's really no way in God's green Earth he's anything but Irish. That was what he'd been told by relatives and he certainly looks like a stereotypical Irishman. As does my sister. Both have the same pale Irish skin, straight red hair, and even facial features. I take a bit more after my mom, who was Irish-French Canadian, so I have freckles and auburn hair. So when I looked into these genetic heritage services what I found was that they are not considered to be at all accurate or useful for doing things like distinguishing Northern Europeans from each other. I'll go look for the links I found and put them here.

Posted by: Y-not at October 15, 2013 07:25 PM (5H6zj)

453 I-75 has some beautiful rolling hills. I knew a girl once with some beautiful rolling hills.... What? WHAT?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 07:25 PM (5J54Q)

454

The best ride ever is a 356 Porsche.

 

 

Nope.  

 260 / 289 AC Cobra.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2013 07:25 PM (OQrDC)

455 The rest of the country calls them "overpasses." Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 11:22 PM (FUbuZ) ouch I climbed The Grande Teton in Wyoming That was a hike

Posted by: zip zip at October 15, 2013 07:25 PM (sb9Hq)

456 "It's the agreeing to dates and then not showing up that pisses me off."

And deservedly so.

Posted by: navybrat at October 15, 2013 07:25 PM (RakrK)

457 448 HA!!

I luv'd my BugS, and always wanted a Thing and a Convertable 'Ghia

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:26 PM (E7Iyp)

458 #3 would only be burned if its a non-doghouse fan shroud,  your thermostat is fried thus preventing the flaps from operating, and you just drove across Death Valley in July with two adults and 200lbs of luggage at noon. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:26 PM (bfAee)

459 It's true Yankee Fifth. They brought it up. Seemed stunned to trapped by facts. I'm going to do it more often

Posted by: Thunderb at October 15, 2013 07:27 PM (zOTsN)

460 >>>>tirade for five mins about cruz I said "I agree with nearly everything he says." Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 11:24 PM (Z9EHQ) that is some good stuff there

Posted by: zip zip at October 15, 2013 07:27 PM (sb9Hq)

461 It's true Yankee Fifth. They brought it up. Seemed stunned to trapped by facts. I'm going to do it more often Posted by: Thunderb at October 15, 2013 11:27 PM (zOTsN) I wish you the best of luck. IME they go back to HuffPo or MSNBC and delete their memory of your side of the event.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 07:28 PM (qyfb5)

462 JarvisW, only buy a Ghia if its been restored and you know the restoration was done properly.  The only thing in the universe that seems to attract more rust than a Ghia is a Fiat it seems.  And since the Ghias were built by the same auto craftsmen that produced Porsche cabriolets, the quality of the original work to duplicate might bankrupt you.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:29 PM (bfAee)

463 457 Here in Texas, I took the flaps out of EVERY engine I had. no need for em here anyway.

Still burned out a motor trying to go from Nac-a-nowhere to Dallas with 4 passengers (one counted for 2)

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:30 PM (E7Iyp)

464 Ana - Presumably you have seen this?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhfcdQf1QA

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 07:30 PM (aDwsi)

465 America produced sofas on wheels, not driving machines.

Posted by: Purp at October 15, 2013 11:10 PM (l5zzX)

_________________

My Dad's 1976 Cadillac Fleetwood.  The damn thing was more comfortable that the sofa's in the house.  Tufted velvet seats.  Plush Royal Maroon.  Loved that car.  Handled like a piece of butter in a hot pan though.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 15, 2013 07:30 PM (jucos)

466 Thanks, Y-Not. Yes, I thought they looked awfully general rather than specific.

Posted by: RovingCopyEditor at October 15, 2013 07:31 PM (vRdWg)

467 Thomas Sowell: “What is history but the story of how politicians have squandered the blood and treasure of the human race?”

Ka-Boom (to coin a phrase)

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 07:31 PM (FUbuZ)

468 I didn't change the mind of the man who proclaimed the JEF a moderate, or his not too bright wife, but the others there (about 6 people) seemed to be in agreement with me by the end of the night. Or they were just being polite.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 15, 2013 07:31 PM (zOTsN)

469 461 Yep, they are notorious. And I wouldn't do it now unless I had stupid money, and it was restored like you said.

I like my Honda with 5 speeds and AIR CONDITIONING!!

I didn't care in my 20s.. in my 40s... in TEXAS... A MUST!!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:32 PM (E7Iyp)

470 Here are a couple: DNA ancestry tests branded 'meaningless' via @Telegraph http://fw.to/mh1Eafe And a 2007 article: For many Americans, the potential to track one's DNA to a specific country, region or tribe with a take-home kit is highly alluring. But while the popularity of genetic ancestry testing is rising - particularly among African Americans - the technology is flawed and could spawn unwelcome societal consequences, according to researchers from several institutions nationwide, including the University of California, Berkeley. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071018145955.htm#.Uly1ha6DAeo.twitter

Posted by: Y-not at October 15, 2013 07:32 PM (5H6zj)

471 Mike, I just see an accident waiting to happen.  I will follow the prescribed way of changing the fan belt.  And the guy is lucky the FLAPS guy did not sell him the fan belt for an alternator equipped Type 1 by accident.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:33 PM (bfAee)

472 466 Thomas Sowell: “What is history but the story of how politicians have squandered the blood and treasure of the human race?”

Another amazing Sowell quote I'd never heard. We need hundreds more of him.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 07:33 PM (bKA83)

473 Okay, I'm outta here. Keep the faith, ya'll.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 15, 2013 07:34 PM (5J54Q)

474 I've lived in MD and visited Minn, TN, NC and AL. I've yet to see anything that qualifies as "hills" here in FL.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 15, 2013 11:19 PM (GEICT)

______________________

Northwest of Orlando out towards Leesburg.  They were little hills.  I moved to Orlando from MD for a year and I hated every second of it.  Came right back.  I missed the change of seasons and the beautiful countryside.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 15, 2013 07:34 PM (jucos)

475 101 92
"It is difficult, in all history, to find six first-rate philosophers who were... "

worth a warm pile of shit.

What a douche that guy was.

Posted by: Dang at October 15, 2013 10:00 PM (Hx2XA)

"Plato was an idiot. Descartes wasn't far behind."

Actually most of these guys contributed 1-2 things of serious import out of all the BS they spouted during their days. Decartes was pretty much responsible for what became known as the scientific method...other than that "blah, blah, blah......"

Posted by: bill-o at October 15, 2013 07:34 PM (AWwDY)

476 JarvisW, just to drive the point further home.  Here is Loren trying to resurrect a 1958 Karmann Ghia cabriolet.  58 was the first year for the cabriolet so very much desired.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=403985

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:35 PM (bfAee)

477 471
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjqfvZVReM

Should be the Tea/Ted Party Anthem!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:35 PM (E7Iyp)

478 If I ever buy another crib, I'm gonna make sure the closest neighbors are at least 1/2 mile away, with the place preferably surrounded on three sides by a swamp, thick forest, or desert. Posted by: Purp at October 15, 2013 11:03 PM (l5zzX) I am blessed.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 15, 2013 07:35 PM (l3vZN)

479 Anna - I can't say that it has any appeal for me. Hard on belt, generator, and possibly a screwdriver in the eye. Clever, none the less. It has a 'hold my beer' quality.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 07:35 PM (aDwsi)

480 Or they were just being polite. Posted by: Thunderb at October 15, 2013 11:31 PM (zOTsN) or you are really really nice to look at

Posted by: zip zip at October 15, 2013 07:35 PM (sb9Hq)

481 Anna, the '58 was also the first year for the gas pedal.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 15, 2013 07:36 PM (l3vZN)

482 If I ever buy another crib, I'm gonna make sure the closest neighbors are at least 1/2 mile away, with the place preferably surrounded on three sides by a swamp, thick forest, or desert. Posted by: Purp ------------------ Still smarting over that water meter thing?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 07:36 PM (aDwsi)

483 Most US mid-size sedans of the 1960's, and especially those marketed as having sporting potential, handled quite smartly by the standards of the time, and stopped all right too. American car owners of the time seemed to think that cars do not need maintenance, and that it was normal for handling to degrade with age. Most of them never got new suspension bushings, ever. And virtually all who comment on them today had a second- or third-hand beater as a go-to-school car, about to be relegated to the scrap heap.

Mustangs were not good handlers, but once you put in the two under-hood braces and the subframe connectors that should have been stock, if you stayed with the six or the small block you'd have a pretty potent car. They weren't up to lugging the 390 around. It caved them in.

Apples to apples, a new 1960's five-passenger US car vs any new five-passenger Italian, German or British car made you wonder what all the snobbery was about. But of course there is the Citroen. May we.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 15, 2013 07:36 PM (JNUY4)

484 "We're not going to kill them, we're going to murder those sonsabitches and cut out their guts and use them to grease the wheels of our tanks!"

- Patton

Now, *that* is a quote.

Posted by: tangonine at October 15, 2013 07:36 PM (x3YFz)

485 I didn't change the mind of the man who proclaimed the JEF a moderate, or his not too bright wife, but the others there (about 6 people) seemed to be in agreement with me by the end of the night. Or they were just being polite. Posted by: Thunderb at October 15, 2013 1 I was with a bunch of finance people. I started sounding off on how global warming guys would not release the data on which their models were based. - we release all of out models to clients so they can understand why we did what we did - I asked if any of my dinner companion would have a lot of confidence if someone would not show their models, would any invest that way? lots of silence. one guy mumbled something about xom giving $48 million to some industry group advocating for oil cos. so, that is probably not gonna help anything.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:37 PM (Z9EHQ)

486 Ummm....who is "Warden"?
I don't know but I hear he's pretty hard on the beaver.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 15, 2013 07:38 PM (eJvk4)

487 I think the highest physical feature in FL is the garbage dump in Pompano.  Its a couple hundred feet high and there's a model airplane club that flies gliders off it.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 15, 2013 07:38 PM (l5zzX)

488 @469 Thanks, Y-Not!

Posted by: RovingCopyEditor at October 15, 2013 07:38 PM (vRdWg)

489 Who is Warden? Warden is the guy that stabbed the ONT!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 15, 2013 07:39 PM (qyfb5)

490 475 WOW thats a shit-ton of fabrication!

I do the mechanicals, I've never done much body work. Tho my dad's car needs hail and dent repair and a paint job, so I'm gonna have to learn.

I'll have to read the rest of that later on.

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:39 PM (E7Iyp)

491 Ummm....who is "Warden"? I don't know but I hear he's pretty hard on the beaver. Posted by: andycanuck maybe but he rides june rented mule style.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:39 PM (Z9EHQ)

492 Replaced the Glock mag release tonight. 'Master Armorer' achievement unlocked.

Posted by: RWC at October 15, 2013 07:41 PM (LpbKr)

493 488 He was payed to do it by...


TED CRUZ!!

Dun dun DUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:42 PM (E7Iyp)

494 pretty stompy upstairs there

Posted by: zip zip at October 15, 2013 07:42 PM (sb9Hq)

495 Ted Cruz helped dingoes eat my baby.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 07:42 PM (bKA83)

496 Oh and it might be prudent to avoid tank jokes when you're talking Porsche.
The greatest Porsches ever built still lie buried up to their hulls in the mud of Kursk.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 15, 2013 07:43 PM (JNUY4)

497 'Master Armorer' achievement unlocked. Posted by: RWC at October 15, 2013 11:41 PM (LpbKr) the old one was broke or an upgrade?

Posted by: zip zip at October 15, 2013 07:43 PM (sb9Hq)

498 You  mean the roller pedal?  Yes 1957 Ghias had it.  Along with sharing a steering wheel with Type 1 Beetles.  1958 marked the accelerator pedal, fuel gauge, and the first Ghia only steering wheel.  In Octorber 1957 Karmann changed the engine lid for the license plate lights and that design persisted until 1962.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:44 PM (bfAee)

499 So, I get home and Mark Begich has left a recorded message on my phone about the shutdown and a phone townhall tomorrow.


What an astounding, ridiculous asshole.  I hope he eats his own shit and dies.

Posted by: jc at October 15, 2013 07:45 PM (PlzOe)

500

Warden is the guy that stabbed the ONT!

 

Pushed it down harder than a partisan poll pushes down  a RINO!

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2013 07:45 PM (OQrDC)

501 Another day, and I'm going to bed, knowing I once again patrolled this demented website for racist RethugliKKKan hate toward our beloved multiracial President, who I and all correctly-thinking persons support completely.


Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at October 15, 2013 07:45 PM (jUeGo)

502 If I ever buy another crib, I'm gonna make sure the closest neighbors are at least 1/2 mile away, with the place preferably surrounded on three sides by a swamp, thick forest, or desert.
Posted by: Purp



Well I got the swamp and thick forest on 3 sides because I thought the same way, it isn't fun. My next place is going to be in the mountains with a big fucking mead hall.

(unless I win the lottery and get my island and pirate ship)

Posted by: Berserker at October 15, 2013 07:46 PM (FMbng)

503 Incidentally, at another I proclaimed I would never even go to an obamacare exchange, not ever even enter the address.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:47 PM (Z9EHQ)

504 500 Another day, and I'm going to bed, knowing I once again patrolled this demented website for racist RethugliKKKan hate toward our beloved multiracial President, who I and all correctly-thinking persons support completely.

You are the "Iraq War Was Wrong" of trolls. I wouldn't be too surprised if that legendary site was still going, even now.

Posted by: Splunge at October 15, 2013 07:47 PM (bKA83)

505 Well the Mega Million cash option tonight was $19 million.  Hopefully a Moron won it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:48 PM (bfAee)

506 Well the Mega Million cash option tonight was $19 million. Hopefully a Moron won it. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 11 $19 million would feed 19 million morons for a year.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:49 PM (Z9EHQ)

507 Another day, and I'm going to bed, knowing I once again patrolled this demented website for racist RethugliKKKan hate toward our beloved multiracial President, who I and all correctly-thinking persons support completely.


Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at October 15, 2013 11:45 PM (jUeGo)


Is it hard to sleep hanging upside down?

Posted by: Berserker at October 15, 2013 07:50 PM (FMbng)

508 Evenin' everyone in the stomped thread.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 07:51 PM (JawqV)

509 the old one was broke or an upgrade? Posted by: zip zip at October 15, 2013 11:43 PM (sb9Hq) Upgrade I guess. I didn't like how short the original one was (granted I can see the extension being a problem with CCW.) Oh, and GLOCKS! DON'T! BREAK! At least they better not, it cost more than I make in a month!

Posted by: RWC at October 15, 2013 07:51 PM (LpbKr)

510 Warden's post was Silly, but it was not an ONT-Stomp.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 07:51 PM (lq3Ak)

511 Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at October 15, 2013 11:45 PM (jUeGo) you are so hot! you free Sat night? I don't pay for sex, but will trade a dinner

Posted by: zip zip at October 15, 2013 07:51 PM (sb9Hq)

512 ..worthy.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 07:52 PM (lq3Ak)

513 should shoehorned warden's thread in here or reposted everything here into the new thread.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:52 PM (Z9EHQ)

514 500 Another day, and I'm going to bed, knowing I once again patrolled this demented website for racist RethugliKKKan hate toward our beloved multiracial President, who I and all correctly-thinking persons support completely. Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at October 15, 2013 11:45 PM (jUeGo Time to vandalize some more RNC HQ's Mary? WWJD.

Posted by: RWC at October 15, 2013 07:53 PM (LpbKr)

515 Y5 if you want to feed 19 million Morons go ahead.  If you won that is.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 07:53 PM (bfAee)

516 I agree, Y5.  It could've been "called to attention" within the ONT.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 07:54 PM (lq3Ak)

517 Mary Cloggenstein is obviously an infidel whore. She will be outlawed when the wise Islamic king Barack Obama institutes the sharia law for America, which was Muslim land stolen long ago.

Posted by: Boko Haram at October 15, 2013 07:54 PM (jUeGo)

518 Tell me again why Boehner should be "Speaker" of the House when he's so FUCKING inarticulate?

Shit, I need another glass of rum, now.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 07:54 PM (FUbuZ)

519 Y5 if you want to feed 19 million Morons go ahead. If you won that is. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 11 all I am afraid of is what happens when the food is finished.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:54 PM (Z9EHQ)

520 When food is finished, infidels get in barrel, as called for by the sharia.

Posted by: Boko Haram at October 15, 2013 07:56 PM (jUeGo)

521 WWJD.
Posted by: RWC

I have no idea, but I'll tell you what Jesus wouldn't do.  He wouldn't Stomp an ONT without Rapture and shit.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 07:56 PM (lq3Ak)

522 Got a question for the more electronic component minded 'rons, or 'ettes, if any lurk about.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 07:57 PM (JawqV)

523 Evenin' everyone in the stomped thread.

Howdy-do!

Gettin' to be nite-nite time for the filbert here.  Small white nuts gotta get their beauty rest, after all.

Posted by: filbert at October 15, 2013 07:57 PM (FUbuZ)

524 I am not so sure I should have gone to the moron meetup, I feel a little constrained in my profligate use of poorly written vulgarity since I actually met some morons.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 07:57 PM (Z9EHQ)

525 ...I'm not even "pissed"...lol.  That looked worse than it Typed.

Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 07:57 PM (lq3Ak)

526 I tell you what Jesus no do. He no help with curve ball.

Posted by: Jobu the Voodoo God at October 15, 2013 07:58 PM (jUeGo)

527 We owned a 1966 Chrysler New Yorker in it's prime. 440 cid Hemi engine. My Dad loved that car and it was his baby. It was big, but drove like a dream, quick, fast, powerful. You could cruise for hours @ 90 mph on the freeway. Comfortable for 5 adults. My Dad sold it to a friend of his in the 1970's before he passed away. I saw it years later, in 1981, still running, but the body looked a little ragged. The biggest differences between the cars of the 1960s (pre-catalytic converter madness) and the cars now are: 1) better brakes (everybody has disk brakes now) 2) better car body metal treatments, less rust (more aluminum and plastic too, to make the cars lighter) 3) Suspensions have been built to improve handling which is possible because the cars are lighter 4) radial tires 5) electronic ignition management (nobody has to gap points anymore every 5000 miles) Cars last longer now for a lot of reasons (if you take care of them), but the well built cars of the 1960's would last a long time too if you took care of them. 3

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at October 15, 2013 07:58 PM (v6hyJ)

528 521 I dabble occasionally.. Whats up? Couldn't hurt to ask at least

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 07:58 PM (E7Iyp)

529 Fuck you, Jobu. Voodoo is strictly forbidden under the sharia.

Posted by: Boko Haram at October 15, 2013 08:00 PM (jUeGo)

530 Fuck you, Jobu. Voodoo is strictly forbidden under the sharia. Posted by: Boko Haram at October 16, 2013 12 dude, its a trick islam/voodoo, same difference

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 08:00 PM (Z9EHQ)

531 The Warden is Paul. He says he's not, but he is also the Walrus. Koo-koo ca -choo

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at October 15, 2013 08:01 PM (v6hyJ)

532 @527 - Well, I bought some NTE-152 transisitors and used one to replace a 2SC1419 that was... suspect.  The NTE piece was worse.  I've gotten one or two bad pieces from elesewhere so figured, "Eh, it happens."  Put another one in, dead.  Put a third one in and it worked.

So my question is, are NTE parts regularly shit, or did I just have a run of bad luck?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 08:02 PM (JawqV)

533 19 million hungry Obots is a scary concept.  Much like there are thirty starving cats and they hear you open the last can of food.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 08:03 PM (bfAee)

534 525 I tell you what Jesus no do. He no help with curve ball. Posted by: Jobu the Voodoo God at October 15, 2013 11:58 PM (jUeGo) You wanted a live chicken! KFC bucket it is. Freakin' great movie.

Posted by: RWC at October 15, 2013 08:03 PM (LpbKr)

535 Thats a bit deeper than I go lol. Sorry I usually just replace the whole part, or check solders etc.. (saved my sis' HDTV from the junk heap that way)

Hopefully another, more knowledgeable moron will see it soon

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 08:05 PM (E7Iyp)

536 I have no idea, but I'll tell you what Jesus wouldn't do. He wouldn't Stomp an ONT without Rapture and shit. Posted by: Slapweasel (T) at October 15, 2013 11:56 PM (lq3Ak) If the 'hate religion but we'll cherry-pick quotes' would dig deeper they wouldn't like what they find.

Posted by: RWC at October 15, 2013 08:06 PM (LpbKr)

537 Thats a bit deeper than I go lol. Sorry I usually just replace the whole part, or check solders etc.. (saved my sis' HDTV from the junk heap that way)

Hopefully another, more knowledgeable moron will see it soon


Well, it never hurts to ask.  The answer can be painful, though.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 08:06 PM (JawqV)

538 So my question is, are NTE parts regularly shit, or did I just have a run of bad luck? Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 16, 2013 12:02 AM (JawqV) I see a lot of complaints, but then you rarely hear from happy customers. Some say the tolerances are not great and they work fine if you design around measured specs. Kind of not the point however.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 08:09 PM (qyfb5)

539 Blanco - Ham radio, perchance?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 08:09 PM (aDwsi)

540 Blanco - Ham radio, perchance? Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 ham radio sounds a little ambitious I was thinking lemon battery.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 15, 2013 08:13 PM (Z9EHQ)

541 I see a lot of complaints, but then you rarely hear from happy customers.

Some say the tolerances are not great and they work fine if you design around measured specs. Kind of not the point however.


When it's listed as a drop in replacement I'm not expecting to design around the specs.  When it's DOA, there's nothing to design around. 

I'm not trying to bust your balls, Merovign, I'm grateful that anyone answered.  Just frustrated that I had to burn through three new transistors to get one that worked.

Guess I'll try ECG parts next time, I had good luck with that stuff *mumble* years ago. 

'Course, that was when I could head over to the local electronics store, because it existed.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 08:16 PM (JawqV)

542 maybe its another component thats blowing them out?

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 08:17 PM (E7Iyp)

543 The Dude, some streaming anime
http://www.viewster.com/genre/3/anime-animation

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 08:18 PM (bfAee)

544 When it's listed as a drop in replacement I'm not expecting to design around the specs. When it's DOA, there's nothing to design around. I'm not trying to bust your balls, Merovign, I'm grateful that anyone answered. Just frustrated that I had to burn through three new transistors to get one that worked. Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 16, 2013 12:16 AM (JawqV) I don't take it as a swing at my genitals, I agree that's crap. A *lot* of the component market has gone to crap, between the Capacitor Plague and general penny-pinching and the Death Of The Hobby, ish. I mean, even if it's fun, why make something like a USB-TTL adapter when you can buy it on eBay for $15?

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 08:19 PM (qyfb5)

545 Blanco - Ham radio, perchance?

You're close.  The former 11 meter band.  Restoring a Cobra 139xlr that I "bought" for less than the shipping charges on ebay.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 08:21 PM (JawqV)

546 I just looked up NTE parts... Guess who makes em??


TED CRUZ!!!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 08:22 PM (E7Iyp)

547 2SC1419's are available, no? Just order one up from, uh..., Mouser? Has the radio been tinkered with in any way?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 08:23 PM (aDwsi)

548 So, the driver is an idiot for hitting whatever is in the road. Or, the tesla is so fragile what he was used to hitting in his Civic and brushing off, now destroys $70k and change!!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 11:04 PM (E7Iyp)


Alternative hypothesis: the driver was an idiot for driving a Tesla. Sometimes you can't avoid running over debris on the road; it may fall off the vehicle ahead of you, leaving you no time to evade, or you may be boxed in, and have no avenue to evade.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2013 08:23 PM (8Fl6F)

549 I don't take it as a swing at my genitals, I agree that's crap.

A *lot* of the component market has gone to crap, between the Capacitor Plague and general penny-pinching and the Death Of The Hobby, ish.

I mean, even if it's fun, why make something like a USB-TTL adapter when you can buy it on eBay for $15?


I'm sure there are still some high quality component makers out there. 

Right next to the Unicorn grazing pasture.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 08:25 PM (JawqV)

550 2SC1419 at MCM - $0.49 Course, you'll have order some other stuff to make the shipping worthwhile http://www.mcmelectronics.com/

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 08:26 PM (aDwsi)

551 548 lol. Yeah. strange story tho. he hit it, but then drove for a while longer?

I'd be checking all over if I hit something large in the road.

Brake lines, (plus all the other fluids a REGULAR car has) can all go in an instant.

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 08:27 PM (E7Iyp)

552 2SC1419's are available, no? Just order one up from, uh..., Mouser?

Has the radio been tinkered with in any way?


The 2SC1419 went out of production a few years ago as best I can tell.

Someone "unlocked" the clarifier.  I'm hoping the reason they didn't get to modifying the PLL inputs had something to do with a lead pipe.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 08:28 PM (JawqV)

553 I'm going to run some missions in my game (swtor), and maybe back a bit later on to see whats goin on.

Later!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 08:28 PM (E7Iyp)

554 The 2SC1419 went out of production a few years ago as best I can tell. See 550

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 08:28 PM (aDwsi)

555 I'm going to run some missions in my game (swtor), and maybe back a bit later on to see whats goin on. Later! Posted by: JarvisW at October 16, 2013 12:28 AM (E7Iyp) Have fun storming the... Hey, wait a minute...

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 08:29 PM (qyfb5)

556 554 The 2SC1419 went out of production a few years ago as best I can tell. See 550 ----= Ooops. See now marked as disco'd

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 08:30 PM (aDwsi)

557 Some roads that I drive over in CA, if you are not in an armored troop carrier, you are toast. Full of pot holes, debris, sheet rock, ladders, recycled goods, maybe even human remains.

Just need to put the wipers on high.

Posted by: navybrat at October 15, 2013 08:31 PM (RakrK)

558 2SC1419 at MCM - $0.49

Course, you'll have order some other stuff to make the shipping worthwhile http://www.mcmelectronics.com/


"This item is no longer available for purchase."

Worth a shot, anyways.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 08:31 PM (JawqV)

559 Well..., I do see some 2SC1419's on Ebay $10.75 for a pair. Ouch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 08:32 PM (aDwsi)

560 A VW Karmann Ghia one time made into the New York City Metropolitan as a piece of art, not as an auto per se.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 15, 2013 11:23 PM (bfAee)


Speaking of which, what do you figure a '64 Ghia ragtop "barn car" would be worth? Supposedly complete, not a total heap of rust.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2013 08:33 PM (8Fl6F)

561 Worse with every glance... It's $10.75 for ONE. Ouch, ouch...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 08:34 PM (aDwsi)

562 I need to invent a way to 3D print transistors and other components.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 08:34 PM (qyfb5)

563 I need to invent a way to 3D print transistors and other components.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith at October 16, 2013 12:34 AM (qyfb5)


transistors have already been done

Posted by: The Dude at October 15, 2013 08:36 PM (vJdyz)

564 Blanco - If the NTE part works. I guess that's that. It might be worth it to buy one of the Ebay parts now, just in case. The great thing is, if you buy it, you will never, ever, need it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 08:37 PM (aDwsi)

565 I want to print money. There is probably some flaw in that plan..., just can't put my finger on it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 08:38 PM (aDwsi)

566 Way late for old guys..., I'm out. G'night folks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 15, 2013 08:39 PM (aDwsi)

567 Worse with every glance... It's $10.75 for ONE.
Ouch, ouch...


Yeah, two of those and I'm almost up to the purchase price of the radio. 

It's just a hobby, not an obsession.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 08:40 PM (JawqV)

568 "I want to print money.

There is probably some flaw in that plan..., just can't put my finger on it."

Everyone else is doing it. Come on in, the water's fine.

Posted by: navybrat at October 15, 2013 08:41 PM (RakrK)

569 Your posts anger me. Electronics are decadent Western inventions and will be forbidden under the Sharia. We'll be sure to Twitter about it when it happens. And the imam will give us a waiver for the LiveLeak videos of Abdul fucking the donkey after we IED'd that convoy.

And you are all infidel swine.

Posted by: Boko Haram at October 15, 2013 08:45 PM (jUeGo)

570 And you are all infidel swine.

Oink!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 08:49 PM (JawqV)

571 transistors have already been done Posted by: The Dude at October 16, 2013 12:36 AM (vJdyz) Dammit! This is almost as bad as when I invented the toothbrush and the electric drill.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 08:50 PM (qyfb5)

572 Dammit! This is almost as bad as when I invented the toothbrush and the electric drill.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith at October 16, 2013 12:50 AM (qyfb5)


just make a food replicator, it's easier

Posted by: The Dude at October 15, 2013 08:51 PM (vJdyz)

573 just make a food replicator, it's easier

But then wouldn't the food always taste the same?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 08:53 PM (JawqV)

574 But then wouldn't the food always taste the same? Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 16, 2013 12:53 AM (JawqV) Details, details.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 15, 2013 08:53 PM (qyfb5)

575 Have fun storming the...

Hey, wait a minute... Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith
---

Lol. there are Castles in game. And I am trying to bring balance to the force all by myself, so for every Jedi I have, I have a Sith. Etc..

This is Bounty week, so I'm picking up free, easy XP killing crime lords.

Back to the front!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 15, 2013 08:54 PM (E7Iyp)

576 But then wouldn't the food always taste the same?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 16, 2013 12:53 AM (JawqV)


hmm would have to ask NASA with their pizza printer or try it at SXSW

Posted by: The Dude at October 15, 2013 08:54 PM (vJdyz)

577 Where's the email from the RNC? The Dems always go unchecked.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 10:02 PM (DmNpO)



The reason they lose is they don't even bother showing up to the battlefield.



Evening roonz and roonettez! Another drive-by comment during lunch break (which I have frittered away reading comments).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 15, 2013 09:00 PM (xa1/W)

578 Evening roonz and roonettez! Another drive-by comment during lunch break (which I have frittered away reading comments). *** good evening GGE. Happy lunch break!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 15, 2013 09:03 PM (DmNpO)

579 133 Jennifer Connelly Compliance Pic #4 Jennifer seems to prefer dark red lipstick. How would Morons explain that to wife or GF? http://tinyurl.com/ke9g9ww Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2013 10:08 PM (aTXUx) I would explain it to her by saying: "Hey honey, I just banged Jennifer Connelly! Wanna smell my junk?"

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 15, 2013 09:07 PM (BXLPR)

580 Some say the tolerances are not great and they work fine if you design around measured specs. Kind of not the point however.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith at October 16, 2013 12:09 AM (qyfb5)



when the point is you design a circuit to be independent of variations in individual transistors...



As to manufacturers, sorry can't help you there. And now lunch break is over.



Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 15, 2013 09:10 PM (xa1/W)

581 I would explain it to her by saying:

"Hey honey, I just banged Jennifer Connelly! Wanna smell my junk?"

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 16, 2013 01:07 AM (BXLPR)



If you married the right gal, hopefully her response is, "And why wasn't I invited?"

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 15, 2013 09:33 PM (lr3d7)

582 Hey, can we not take shots at me while I'm not around to shoot back?  Maybe?

Hello all.  Listening to Brian Eno's instrumental/ambient work and reading caselaw.  And commenting on the moronblog (mostly in the Warden thread above).  Wish BCochran didn't have the hate-on for me that he apparently does, 'cuz I like his twitter feed.  Oh well.

Still think he would extremely pleasantly surprised at what I would do as a guest-blogger, though.  I suppose he think I'd be writing TruCon-bashing stuff or whatever.  Not a chance.  I'd either music-blog, or go to town on liberal idiocy in the finest tradition of the Moronblog.  It would the douchiest thing in the world to take a privilege like that and use it to troll people.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 15, 2013 09:42 PM (n/+FT)

583 Aloha! Anybody still awake?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 15, 2013 09:45 PM (giV1l)

584 Aloha! Anybody still awake?

Not really.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 09:46 PM (JawqV)

585 You back in the Bay Area, you old tentacled horror?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 09:47 PM (JawqV)

586 >>> Aloha! Anybody still awake? Who's asking?

Posted by: fluffy at October 15, 2013 09:48 PM (z9HTb)

587 >>> Listening to Brian Eno's instrumental/ambient work Harold Budd or Jah Wobble?

Posted by: fluffy at October 15, 2013 09:49 PM (z9HTb)

588 No, I'm in Weed. Tomorrow, though, it's back to R'lyeh.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 15, 2013 09:50 PM (giV1l)

589 No, I'm in Weed. Tomorrow, though, it's back to R'lyeh.

That's in the State of Jefferson, isn't it?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 09:51 PM (JawqV)

590 Did some great hiking this morning on the Trail of Ten Falls in Oregon (got to 4 -- South Falls, Lower South Falls, North Falls, Upper North Falls), but got so backed up on time that we just now got into Weed.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 15, 2013 09:53 PM (giV1l)

591 589 No, I'm in Weed. Tomorrow, though, it's back to R'lyeh.

That's in the State of Jefferson, isn't it?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 16, 2013 01:51 AM (JawqV)



In a righteous and just world, it would be.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 15, 2013 09:54 PM (giV1l)

592 Did some great hiking this morning on the Trail of Ten Falls in Oregon (got to 4 -- South Falls, Lower South Falls, North Falls, Upper North Falls), but got so backed up on time that we just now got into Weed.

Filing that away for the next time I leech off the uncle outside of Eugene.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 09:55 PM (JawqV)

593 I'm out.  Have to deal with something unpleasant tomorrow.

It's called "work".

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2013 10:01 PM (JawqV)

594

Weed.  

Every time I stop at the Bakery there, I get a travel mug that is stolen shortly thereafter by the first burner who sees it. 

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2013 10:01 PM (MLbJL)

595 On the way up, we stopped in Weed and hiked a place called "The Haystack". We're thinking "Hedge Creek Falls" tomorrow morning.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 15, 2013 10:05 PM (giV1l)

596 594
Weed.
Every time I stop at the Bakery there, I get a travel mug that is stolen shortly thereafter by the first burner who sees it.

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2013 02:01 AM (MLbJL)



There is a certain fixation to the place....

Posted by: cthulhu at October 15, 2013 10:06 PM (giV1l)

597 I want to print money.

Counterfeiting rare'ish pennies is safer and a lot less equipement intensive. 

If you don't get greedy and do shit like 1909s pennies, and keep it to things in the kinda-rare $20 range you could get away with it forever.

Really all you need is a cheap hydraulic press from Harbor freight and a die. 

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 15, 2013 10:22 PM (l5zzX)

598 Finally all caught up.   Just in time to see the ONT pine for the fjords while resting.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 15, 2013 10:31 PM (0wHyk)

599 If you are going to print anything you are printing currency.
"Money" has intrinsic value, unlike printed currency, which is nothing but a short term contract, on which you are on the losing end.

Posted by: navybrat at October 15, 2013 10:33 PM (RakrK)

600 Connelly was named Amnesty International Ambassador for Human Rights Education.

That shriveling sound is my woody for Ms Connelly going south.......

Posted by: Any Moron at October 15, 2013 11:25 PM (AWwDY)

601 52 hello ettes and fellow 2nd choicers.

the meerkats are an oddity in the animal kingdom because they have a chick as a leader.

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Seems to me I recall reading that beavers mate for life, and (therefore?) the female is dominant.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 16, 2013 05:17 AM (BDU/a)

602 A good woman wants to be loved and to find a man that is willing to share all of life's ups and downs with her. She wants to be his woman. She wants certainty that he won't stop loving her. She wants to be listened to and taken seriously. She wants him to work hard together to solve their problems, whether internal or external...She wants a strong man that won't quit, even if it's hard. Who will help her raise their children with as much commitment that she has. The stories, the complications, they're all just details. Boil it down and bottom line, it's all about giving your heart and whether or not you're willing to put your back into the cause. Sharing the work of life. However, if you look just for eye candy, oftentimes all that you'll find is a pretty but empty box. Know first what it is that you REALLY want. Do you want just the shiny object? Then never, ever go with a woman that wants it all. Be real and tell the truth if all you want to do is get laid. Plenty of women out there that want that same thing. You'll get laid. Just go to a bar and act like a confident jerk. Most of the time, you'll find something drunk enough to bang. But a woman that wants marriage and family for a lifetime...do her and everyone else a favor and pass her by if the aforementioned is your goal. Play with her for your own amusement and YOU are the one that is creating the 'baggage' for the guy who really wants to get married that may come next. You are the one that will make her walk with a limp, not trust her own eyes and make her flinch, even if Mr Right walks right into her living room and sits down. Marriage is supposed to be for life. Life is not going to be one big long perfect date. Not in the real world. It will always have challenges, and if you work with her to meet them, while loving her fiercely, a good woman will appreciatively respond. You will be her hero. Care more about who she is, and respect what it takes to be that, and less about her cup size. You can always buy fake boobs, you cannot buy good values or a good heart. It's the old joke about the bully that calls a nice girl, fat. She responds with 'I may be fat but I can lose weight, You however, will always be a jerk'. Jerks win the being single at a bar male sex battle, but ultimately lose the love and family war...while blaming it on everyone but themselves. Good men and good women have to hold out long enough to find each other. There are no perfect people but there are absolutely so many good people out there. But they have to stop looking for love in places where the only product offered is sex. As to cynicism, bah humbug. The good stuff between men and women is so damned good and life enhancing in the long run that it's worth the risk.

Posted by: tired at October 16, 2013 06:59 AM (adOUE)

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