October 27, 2013
— Open Blogger Good evening, Morons and Moronettes. I'm tmi3rd, and Maetenloch is working on his wood chipper this eveningÂ… it fouled up when he tried to stuff too many hoboes into it, and heÂ’s got to hurry up if heÂ’s going to make good hobo sausage before the meat gets too ripe. So, if youÂ’ll permit me, letÂ’s do dis...
So I found this next thing on FacebookÂ…
IÂ’d never heard of Stefan Moyneux prior to watching this, but IÂ’m a believer now. HereÂ’s the thing about this: he bases his arguments on the premise that Brand has the noblest of intentions, and then runs them out to their logical end.
Now, IÂ’ll be the first person to point out that you can get after most liberals with encyclopedic facts, and that wonÂ’t alter their perspective of things. The thing about this approach, however, is for the folks that are wavering or on the fenceÂ… itÂ’s so calm and positive, you almost canÂ’t help but nod along to it, and its warmth is almost intoxicating.
When youÂ’re selling the idea, or rebutting a liberalÂ’s bullshit, I urge you to ponder that youÂ’re not going to change the liberalÂ’s mind, but you may change the mind of the audience watching this unfold. The liberal has no defensible arguments save for their good intentions, and that one weapon they have requires the use of judo or jiu-jitsu against it- use their momentum to pull them into a vulnerable position, and then pound them not with remarks about how stupid they are, but how their good intentions have been so poorly-executed by people who pretend to be on their side.
Much Ado About Nothing
So a post over at Gateway has been making the rounds about “the establishment plans to exorcise the Tea Party”.
It just so happens that our dear friend Conservative Belle, a loooooooong-time Moronette, happens to be pretty well-connected within the party apparatus, and pointed out the following:
LOOOOOOOL! I looked at Open Secrets to see about this Defending Main Street PAC. As a Republican Party member, I have not heard of any strategy to get rid of Tea Party members or conservatives. [NOTE:On the contrary, I do hear about the Club for Growth, Tea Party Express and Paulbots who want to take out Republicans.] This is just some ridiculous rogue group and guess how much money they have. A whole $39K cash on hand. LMAO! They sound like a REAL threat.Stop getting your panties in a bunch about headlines like this. This garbage is meant to rip the party apart and get your faux outrage up. There is no RNC/GOP strategy trying to target anyone except DEMOCRATS.
If anyoneÂ’s interested, the links to the OpenSecrets pages are here and here.
If anyone wasn't aware of it already, there's a big intraparty battle going on for who gets to call the shots... not too dissimilar to what we saw between Hillary and Obama last time. Best way to make sure what needs to happen happens is to stay focused on it, and don't let gadflies and poltroons distract you from the important stuff. Obamacare, amnesty, and a rather large debt are still out there.
CouldnÂ’t Do It Without My Peeps
So my boy Leeroy Jenkins sent me this group of Halloween pinups.
Yummy!
Musical Selections
So, I kind of happened across Tying Tiffany in the past few months, and sheÂ’s got a big YouTube channel. ItÂ’s semi-Gothic electronic, and IÂ’ve been using it as study music. HereÂ’s a pretty good example.
And just because IÂ’m a metal guy, here are the vastly underrated Coroner from a couple of decades agoÂ… these guys could frigginÂ’ PLAY.
Obligatory Bugs Bunny Appearance
Morons and Moronettes, I give you “Waikiki Wabbit”.
Beavis & Butthead
“Scared Straight”
Okay, folks, got a game tonight, so you kids play nice! If you need to get a hold of me, find me at my handle on Twitter. Thanks!
-tmi3rd
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Hobo sausage NEVER gets ripe. Just like letting liver sit in the sun before catfishing.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 27, 2013 06:11 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 06:12 PM (lq3Ak)
http://tinyurl.com/llbydna
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 27, 2013 06:13 PM (LC9b/)
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 06:15 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 06:17 PM (qVKcL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 27, 2013 06:18 PM (LC9b/)
>>>>>Much Ado About Nothing: So a post over at Gateway has been making the rounds about "the establishment plans to exorcise the Tea Party.">>>>
That post is completely rational compared to this one. Read the comments.
"Unmarked Military Gunboats Seen Patrolling Louisiana Waterways."
Too many of the people opposing Obama are raving mental patients. We need everyone to be focused and calm, but they're manufacturing plots and conspiracies out of thin air now. It's very depressing.
http://tinyurl.com/qbknvvm
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 06:18 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 27, 2013 06:18 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 27, 2013 06:18 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 10:17 PM (qVKcL)
yeah, the bye week brings out the best in some teams . . . 
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 06:19 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: The Nightmare Hat at October 27, 2013 06:19 PM (Vk2pI)
Holy crap!!!\
you rons needs to check out Yvonne DeCarlo in the Halloween pinups!
Kate Upton has nothing on her
Posted by: thunderb at October 27, 2013 06:19 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at October 27, 2013 06:20 PM (v6hyJ)
>>>>>Much Ado About Nothing: So a post over at Gateway has been making the rounds about "the establishment plans to exorcise the Tea Party.">>>>
That post is completely rational compared to this one. Read the comments.
"Unmarked Military Gunboats Seen Patrolling Louisiana Waterways."
Too many of the people opposing Obama are raving mental patients. We need everyone to be focused and calm, but they're manufacturing plots and conspiracies out of thin air now. It's very depressing.
http://tinyurl.com/qbknvvm
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 06:20 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 06:20 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Dooly(slippin' up the holler} at October 27, 2013 06:21 PM (EyWmu)
how are all of the ONT denizens tonite
Posted by: chemjeff at October 27, 2013 06:21 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 06:22 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: John from next to ID at October 27, 2013 06:22 PM (npxzd)
Just learned of another nuclear bomb hidden in O-care. There's a death spiral starting based on the enrollment numbers (which anyone with any sense knew would likely happen). Well, guess what. The federal govt. is on the hook for 80% of any losses to the insurance industry if the death spiral happens.
"Risk corridors" were hidden in that steaming pile of pass-it-so-you'll-know-what's-in-it crap. The federal govt will pay 50% of losses over 103% of actuarial projections and 80% of losses above 108% of projections.
And then the subsidies and Medicaid are also paid for by Uncle Sam. This is a Tsar Bomba of a clusterfuck dropped in the fiscal/economic pie.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at October 27, 2013 06:22 PM (M5Os+)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at October 27, 2013 06:23 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 27, 2013 06:23 PM (bCEmE)
What are the specific complaints about some of these announcers? While Tim McCarver can be thoughtlessly lost about names and situations, at times, he has been solid-but-judgemental.
There's nothing wrong with Joe Buck, as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 06:23 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 10:15 PM (8lmkt)
He is the fifth horse('s ass)man of the apocalyspe...
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 06:23 PM (QdOC1)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 27, 2013 06:24 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 27, 2013 06:24 PM (LC9b/)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 27, 2013 06:24 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at October 27, 2013 06:25 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at October 27, 2013 06:25 PM (1l2Ek)
Boom.
Posted by: non-essential commenter #27791629 at October 27, 2013 06:25 PM (/C6Mj)
Posted by: Jmel at October 27, 2013 06:26 PM (cfFqn)
Posted by: Splunge at October 27, 2013 06:26 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 27, 2013 06:27 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear at October 27, 2013 06:27 PM (JMmQ9)
I distracted the liquor-store clerk whilst my college room-mate walked out with a life-sized standup of Elvira in 1980-something.
Good times. Good times.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 27, 2013 06:27 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at October 27, 2013 06:27 PM (1l2Ek)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at October 27, 2013 06:28 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 27, 2013 06:29 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Dooly(slippin' up the holler} at October 27, 2013 06:30 PM (EyWmu)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 06:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: thunderb at October 27, 2013 06:31 PM (zOTsN)
Still did you toss in a sawbuck to get your name into the credits?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 27, 2013 06:31 PM (LC9b/)
Posted by: DAve at October 27, 2013 06:31 PM (b7yum)
...on a molecular level.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 06:32 PM (lq3Ak)
There's nothing wrong with Joe Buck, as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 10:23 PM (lq3Ak)
A lot of these guys on the national broadcasts feel the need to A) eliminate ANY 'dead air' and/or B) try to make every single situation some sort of dramatic do or die event.
And in between all that, they spew every meaningless statistic they could find in baseball-reference.com.
They need to take some ritalin (or smoke some weed lifted from the umpire's glaucoma stash) and chill, pop out a meaningful insight every now and then, and enjoy the friggin game.
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 06:32 PM (QdOC1)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 27, 2013 06:32 PM (tHXgZ)
Posted by: thunderb at October 27, 2013 06:33 PM (zOTsN)
Where's the evidence of that? Every war we've ever fought we've had to be dragged kicking and screaming into, and we keep unilaterally disarming. We retaliate; we're almost never the aggressors. Andwhen we ARE the aggressors, we base it on what we feel are entirely legitimate reasons.
For me, the fact that Moyneux says that those in power are warmongers negates everything else he says.
I hate bullshit. It's the reason we're in so much trouble now.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 06:33 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 27, 2013 06:34 PM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 27, 2013 06:35 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 06:35 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at October 27, 2013 06:35 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 06:35 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Jmel
Who knew he was such a gdamn motormouth. Like a friggin' girl. Jeebus.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 27, 2013 06:35 PM (xz0nG)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 27, 2013 06:36 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 27, 2013 06:36 PM (DHQv9)
Of course, the only way to accomplish any of this is by setting an Authoritarian system, where Big Brother comes and takes your property and gives it to someone else, at the point of a gun.
Gee, where have we all heard that before?
Posted by: navybrat at October 27, 2013 06:37 PM (AYGBr)
The original site for the Halloween pinup girls (linked at the link) has alot of other interesting photo collections as well. That's where I've been for the past 30 minutes.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 27, 2013 10:32 PM (tHXgZ)
You're absolutely correct. The Selvedge Yard has great stuff.
Posted by: ExSnipe at October 27, 2013 06:38 PM (57ubW)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President For Life
That's reasonable, because the "theater-of-the-mind" is nearly always better than the pictures described by those who actually see it.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 06:38 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 27, 2013 06:39 PM (LC9b/)
Posted by: chemjeff
I never said I had it. So there's that. Note taken, however.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 06:39 PM (lq3Ak)
Your a practicing Presbyterian Pachyderm, BC? Tusk. Tusk.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 27, 2013 06:39 PM (tHXgZ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 06:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 06:41 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 27, 2013 06:41 PM (i5ol1)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 27, 2013 06:42 PM (dfYL9)
the guys covering the game on local radio are better broadcasters than
the guys doing the national game on t.v."
One of the in-station sportscasters for game #2 (maybe it was Fox?) kept referring to Fenway Park as the "big monster". Nails on a chalkboard.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 27, 2013 06:42 PM (JRmiD)
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 06:42 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: DAve at October 27, 2013 06:44 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 27, 2013 06:44 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: goatse at October 27, 2013 06:45 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at October 27, 2013 06:45 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2013 06:45 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: mindful webworker - always, always wrong, maybe at October 27, 2013 06:45 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear at October 27, 2013 06:45 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Jmel at October 27, 2013 06:45 PM (cfFqn)
Posted by: Zombie Fred Gwynn at October 27, 2013 06:46 PM (qlPzn)
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 06:46 PM (8lmkt)
OP: don't let gadflies and poltroons distract you from the important stuff
We can concede that LaTourette / "Defending Main Street" is a poltroon - he went so far as to quote Barack Obama's "get in their faces".
But I'd really like to see more evidence that the RNC/GOP has cooked up any strategery AT ALL.
get in their facesget in their facesSteve LaTouretteSteve LaTouretteSteve LaTouretteSteve LaTourette
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 27, 2013 06:46 PM (d7tB2)
78 It's impossible to shell peanuts and not make a mess.
We always got to the landlords and eat peanuts.
Posted by: the skwerls at October 27, 2013 06:47 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 06:47 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 27, 2013 06:47 PM (d7tB2)
There is a lot of artifacting around the 'webs' and the necklace. I think they just shopped de Carlo's head onto a nude figure and added the necklace and costume.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 27, 2013 06:48 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2013 06:48 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 27, 2013 06:49 PM (LC9b/)
It is not their song. Sing it as it was intended. Even a crackhead could do it.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 06:49 PM (lq3Ak)
I tried, and failed, to copy and paste some phrases. When I hit ctl-V, Firefox scrolled up to the middle of this page and (apparently) didn't paste what I typed into the text field. Then, I gave up and typed what I had to type, longhand.
And then when I posted, *each time* I ctl-v'ed, that it apparently stored in a buffer, got posted into my post.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 27, 2013 06:50 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: The Munsterous Hat at October 27, 2013 06:50 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at October 27, 2013 06:50 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2013 10:48 PM (LI48c)
Yeah, they punked her good.
In other news, I am liking this pitcher.
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 06:50 PM (8lmkt)
60 minutes did a piece on that Ben Gazzi guy./
Yeah, great. No mention of Susan Rice or the administration's blaming the CA video guy for like ever. I guess we should be sorta glad that the MFM at least addressed it somewhat. I guess. So in the tank, it's disgusting.
Sorry for the bad syntax, etc. I'm so pissed off I can't see straight, plus I think one of my root canals is going bad. I feel like shit. Except worse. Dental appt tomorrow, though, thank goodness. I'll be happy to get a referral to an endodontist to fix this aged root canal. No tooth ache, just a general sick feeling. Blah.
Posted by: kalneva at October 27, 2013 06:50 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: toby928© has a dirty joke at October 27, 2013 06:50 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 27, 2013 06:51 PM (LC9b/)
One of the in-station sportscasters for game #2 (maybe it was Fox?) kept referring to Fenway Park as the "big monster". Nails on a chalkboard.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 27, 2013 10:42 PM (JRmiD)
OMG. That is near blasphemy! I know some of the color commentators are usually everyday broadcasters for MLB teams (Bob Brenly comes to mind - he was the Cubs broadcaster and is now the Diamondbacks guy). These guys should know better, and probably do.
It's the Joe Bucks of the world who are the seagulls swooping in and shitting on everything before flying away. They just don't know the game as well.
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 06:51 PM (QdOC1)
That was Rascal Flats. I thought it was okay.
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 06:51 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: avi at October 27, 2013 06:52 PM (Ie49R)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 27, 2013 10:50 PM (d7tB2)
bth, stop digging . . .
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 06:53 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 27, 2013 06:53 PM (LC9b/)
It's okay, BTH, we just figured you had Steve LaTourette Syndrome.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 27, 2013 06:53 PM (tHXgZ)
Seriously, if Brand is so keen on income redistribution (he's worth 15 million at least), let him go first. Damn progs should walk the walk before asking the rest of us to take up the "glorious" socialist revolution. Posted by: Thrawn at October 27, 2013 06:53 PM (ZyqBH)
The US doesn't aggress (I know, not a real word, but should be) directly. But it sure does meddle a hell of a lot. Someone ring up that shah in Iran about this
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 27, 2013 06:54 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Thrawn
Fen's Law
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 06:55 PM (lq3Ak)
Survivor didn't I? Glad that Kat is voted to Redemption Island. Can't
stand that stupid girl.
Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2013 10:48 PM (LI48c)
Yeah, they punked her good.
In other news, I am liking this pitcher.
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 10:50 PM (8lmkt)
I'm willing to bet that her and her boyfriend are not together when they have the reunion episode. The way she made it sound they had only recently gotten together, so another dumb thing she did.
Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2013 06:56 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 27, 2013 06:56 PM (tHXgZ)
Posted by: Some NJ guy at October 27, 2013 06:56 PM (ph70Q)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 27, 2013 10:34 PM (8JJ6O)
Cool beans, PG!.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 27, 2013 06:56 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Thrawn at October 27, 2013 06:57 PM (ZyqBH)
I could use some of Brand's generosity
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 06:58 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 06:58 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: toby928© has a dirty joke at October 27, 2013 06:58 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 27, 2013 06:59 PM (LC9b/)
Stephen King, Michael Moore, and other lefty million- and billionaires say that individuals giving away their wealth doesn't make a difference. It's all or nothing.
Unless everyone else is taxed to death, they're not going to step up and give away their wealth.
In other words, more lip service. Leftism is all about lip service. Name one leftist who actually practices what he preaches.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 07:00 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: CarolT at October 27, 2013 07:00 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 27, 2013 07:00 PM (tHXgZ)
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 07:00 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 27, 2013 07:00 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear at October 27, 2013 07:01 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 27, 2013 07:01 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 07:01 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 07:01 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 27, 2013 07:01 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2013 07:03 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: toby928© has a dirty joke at October 27, 2013 07:03 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 07:04 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk
I've been on that train since mid-season. I even volunteered to do Baseball + "Fantasy Posts", but it was not to be.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:04 PM (lq3Ak)
A data center critical for allowing uninsured Americans to buy health coverage under President Barack Obama's healthcare law went down on Sunday, halting online enrollment for all 50 states in the latest problem to hit the program's troubled rollout.
The data center operated by Verizon's Terremark experienced a connectivity issue that caused it to shut down, affecting the federal government's already problem-plagued online marketplace Healthcare.gov and similar sites operated by 14 states and the District of Columbia, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
Root cause? The shutdown.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 27, 2013 07:04 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 27, 2013 07:05 PM (GaqMa)
Hey, what else is the Magnifier accessory for than to delve into important matters such as this?
Posted by: Epobirs at October 27, 2013 07:05 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 11:04 PM (LpbKr)
I denounce myself. I, however, am an ever-advocate for The National Past-time.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:05 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 07:06 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear and a PVC bow at October 27, 2013 07:06 PM (JMmQ9)
Seems to be some pretty serious rackage there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 27, 2013 07:06 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 27, 2013 11:00 PM (tHXgZ)
remember, you are a guest in our formerly fine country . . . this is the ONT, we can talk whatever trash we want. if you're out of beer, i'm happy to share!
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 07:06 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 07:06 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2013 07:06 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: non-essential commenter #27791629 at October 27, 2013 07:06 PM (/C6Mj)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 07:07 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 27, 2013 07:07 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 27, 2013 07:07 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 07:07 PM (GEICT)
baseball thread . . . hence the controversy here where there should be no controversy
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 07:08 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2013 07:08 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Peaches
...and should Peaches find slumber, I've got a funnel; ready for the USB port.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:08 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 07:09 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2013 07:09 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 07:10 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 07:10 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 27, 2013 07:11 PM (DmNpO)
My suggestion would be to avoid the white plumbing stuff and head over to the electrical department for the gray PVC conduit.
It won't degrade in the sun as fast and seems to be a lot less brittle formulation when pushed hard. PVC conduit is available in Sched 40 and heavier 80
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 27, 2013 07:11 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk
I know you are. You "get it" more than most. Most don't look at the game through the eyes of the pitcher because "chicks dig the long-ball", but those who love baseball know better.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:11 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 27, 2013 07:12 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: toby928© has a dirty joke at October 27, 2013 07:12 PM (QupBk)
I think she's indicating that she needs an I.V. Stat! in # 168!!11!!
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 27, 2013 07:12 PM (tHXgZ)
Posted by: Dooly(slippin' up the holler} at October 27, 2013 07:12 PM (EyWmu)
Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2013 07:13 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 27, 2013 11:00 PM (tHXgZ)
Yeah. This one. It's the World Series. Lighten up, Francis.
Posted by: tcn at October 27, 2013 07:13 PM (fwcEs)
Posted by: CarolT at October 27, 2013 07:13 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 07:13 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 27, 2013 07:13 PM (l0lja)
Mom and Dad were devout Republicans, so they did everything in their power to keep Uncle's hands off. After the estates are settled, I'm turning my portion over to my brother.
All my friends are leftist. They can't believe I'd give my brother total control over my finances.
Their mistrust says everything about them and nothing about my brother. I KNOW my brother. I've given him the passwords to all my accounts. He had total control over my parents' finances for the last year of their lives.
He almost died a couple years ago when during a routine hernia operation they punctured his bowel. By the evening he had a systemic infection. They tried every antibiotic and were down to the second-to-the-last one. I visited him every day during the three weeks he was in the hospital. Though the doctors said he'd likely die, I pretended that everything was fine. I made him laugh and did everything in my power to calm him.
After he recovered, he said my visits saved his life.
So if he rips me off, it just proves I was wrong about everything anyway. At that point I'll just check into an asylum and spent my declining years doing jigsaw puzzles.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 07:13 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 27, 2013 07:13 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 07:15 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2013 11:13 PM (5H6zj)<<<
Posted by: non-essential commenter #27791629 at October 27, 2013 07:16 PM (/C6Mj)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 11:14 PM (6ce4O)
You're not from around here, are ya?
It's ViQ's. As in, ViQueens.
Posted by: tcn at October 27, 2013 07:16 PM (fwcEs)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 27, 2013 07:17 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Purp
...not always, but 95% of the time. Remember the Astros vs. White Sox?
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:18 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 27, 2013 07:18 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 27, 2013 07:19 PM (DmNpO)
Thx
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear and a PVC bow at October 27, 2013 11:06 PM (JMmQ9)
The fact that he is reading the Boston Herald might have something to do with it!
Posted by: Old Dog at October 27, 2013 07:20 PM (tQYJH)
Posted by: toby928© has a dirty joke at October 27, 2013 07:20 PM (QupBk)
It's a scene from "That Seventies Show." The actor, Kurtwood Smith, was famous for playing villains before the show. His most memorable villain was the horrifying, utterly repulsive Clarence J. Boddicker in Robocop.
Nobody knew Smith could do comedy. He's a brilliant comedic actor whose forte is deadpan sarcasm. Occasionally, though, he'd scream his head off in exultation, always when someone got his comeuppance.
The meme is therefore a combination of "Let's do this!" and "The bad guys have gotten what they deserve!"
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 07:22 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: Yogi Berra at October 27, 2013 07:22 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: CarolT at October 27, 2013 07:22 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 07:22 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 27, 2013 07:22 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: toby928© has a dirty joke at October 27, 2013 07:23 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear and a PVC bow at October 27, 2013 07:23 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 07:23 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Gingy at October 27, 2013 07:24 PM (N/cFh)
From MarketWatch:
U.S. SPYING SCANDAL
U.S. tapped Merkel since 2002: report
Heheheheheh. They said "tapped" heheheh..
Posted by: Butthead at October 27, 2013 07:24 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 27, 2013 07:25 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Gingy at October 27, 2013 11:24 PM (N/cFh)
Is "Super A" part of the new Common Core grading system?
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 07:25 PM (QdOC1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 27, 2013 07:25 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: CarolT at October 27, 2013 11:22 PM (z4WKX)
They probably don't want him saying anything about 404care.
Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2013 07:26 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear and a PVC bow at October 27, 2013 07:26 PM (JMmQ9)
Yup. If my bro shafts me, I lose faith in all humanity, so I won't need money. I'll just turn myself over to the state and not worry about anything anymore.
But he won't. Both my parents were utterly vulnerable by the end. They both had dementia. My brother scrupulously asked them for permission every time he wrote a check. He explained everything to them and always made sure a witness was present.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 07:26 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: non-essential commenter #27791629 at October 27, 2013 07:27 PM (/C6Mj)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 27, 2013 07:27 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 27, 2013 07:28 PM (LC9b/)
Firefox and Pixyware don't play well together.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 27, 2013 07:28 PM (gqT4g)
Is that a fez? That pointy hat? Ain't never gonna do it without my fez on ...
http://tinyurl.com/mycwj86
Posted by: and irresolute at October 27, 2013 07:29 PM (RqHWH)
He's been busy trying to sign up for Obamacare but he's having problems... he can't remember the password to turn on his computer.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 27, 2013 07:30 PM (tHXgZ)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear and a PVC bow at October 27, 2013 07:30 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: non-essential commenter #27791629 at October 27, 2013 07:30 PM (/C6Mj)
I'd expect the same of my younger brother, Mr. Adhesive. He's a great guy and worthy of my respect -to the fullest. I thank you for your uplifting story of Family.
...may God continue your blessings.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:30 PM (lq3Ak)
Thank you.
Funnily enough, most of my leftist "friends" have dropped me. I expected it. As an experiment, I asked one why he no longer e-mailed me, and he said it was to give me room.
I told him I didn't need room; communication is what helps. Did the prolonged, horrible deaths of my parents--ten straight months of suffering--simply make him realize that he himself was going to die?
No response. You know what, though?
He's still going to die.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 07:31 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 27, 2013 07:31 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 07:32 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 27, 2013 07:32 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 27, 2013 07:32 PM (GaqMa)
They want to kill the TEA Party.
Posted by: ChrisP at October 27, 2013 07:33 PM (BpTC0)
Posted by: mindful webworker - three left turns at October 27, 2013 07:33 PM (U13jb)
And Lloyd Bridges! If you haven't. you have to watch the Hot Shot movies. He's an absolute comedic genius.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 07:34 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear and a PVC bow at October 27, 2013 07:35 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 07:35 PM (LpbKr)
"Buddies" help you plan for a party.
"Friends" help you move.
"Real Friends" understand why they are there while you and everything else seems "uncomfortable".
I hope we all attract the latter type. I pray our humility and reason attract those types.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:36 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 27, 2013 07:36 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 27, 2013 07:37 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Gingy at October 27, 2013 07:37 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 11:13 PM (81H5s)
That can't be fucking healthy.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 27, 2013 07:37 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 27, 2013 07:38 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 27, 2013 07:38 PM (aDwsi)
...may God continue your blessings.>>>>
Thank you. Mom died October 13, so we're still taking it in.
I'm fifty-one, so I knew both my parents for fifty-one years. It's surreal to keep realizing they're not here. I live next door to them, so I'd go over every night and have late-night conversations with Mom.
I still think, "I'll go tell Mom about--" And then I realize I can't.
She would've loved to see the ObamaCare rollout. The only person in her life she ever despised was Obama.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 07:38 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 07:39 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: mindful webworker - sense of humor, sense of confusion at October 27, 2013 07:39 PM (U13jb)
I quit playing FFB last year because I'd rather concentrate on the "importing" part of the business.
Posted by: Costanza! at October 27, 2013 07:39 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Gingy at October 27, 2013 07:40 PM (N/cFh)
I was in the entertainment industry. It was inevitable to end up with leftist friends.
But most of them have peeled off. A couple remain, and if I'm not mistaken, they seem to be migrating over to my side of the political aisle.
The hardcore Obama lovers are all very shallow people. I won't miss them.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 07:41 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 27, 2013 07:41 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: mindful webworker - sense of humor, sense of confusion at October 27, 2013 07:42 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 27, 2013 07:43 PM (tHXgZ)
God Bless you, Sir. May our collective prayers allow you comfort and remembrance of the beauty and joy of their presence.
May they live in your heart forever. May their Heavenly voices guide your every decision. May your heart be at peace as their living joy inhabits your soul.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:44 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Jesse at October 27, 2013 07:44 PM (As/N8)
One of my brothers is a leftist in the entertainment industry. He came out to be with Mom as she died.
The very first night he was here, he went into a monologue in my living room about the Koch brothers and...wait for it...Sarah Palin.
Mom died, and my leftist brother came over my house. We sat around talking about Mom, and then my brother went into a monologue about...Club for Growth and the Koch brothers. The day Mom died.
After he went back to New York, my investment brother and I agreed that we hope we never see him again. He's not even human anymore.
I have no love for the Republican party, but now I actively hate leftists. They're poisonous.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 07:47 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 27, 2013 11:41 PM (aDwsi)
It's not flippant, it's accurate. It's been 3.5 years since my last living parent passed away, so I can relate.
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 07:47 PM (QdOC1)
Posted by: Abathur at October 27, 2013 07:48 PM (ZyqBH)
I had to repeat it before she could believe what I had said, and clearly didn't "get it", so I explained that there was a website where morons congregated and talk using pseudonyms, and how there were are ton of "in-jokes", like Val-u-rite or the expression "moron" itself. And how Brenda had even met a moron that I haven't had the pleasure to meet yet in North Carolina (NCRef).
She then asked, "so there are morons all across the country? How about overseas, can you be in other countries and still be a moron? To which the only reply possible is: "oh, yes.....morons are everywhere." -- which caused her spouse to choke on her drink and say, "he's got a point, there."
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 07:49 PM (T1005)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear and a PVC bow at October 27, 2013 07:50 PM (JMmQ9)
HAHA! I don't even try to explain it anymore. I just say, "it's a cool website."
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:51 PM (lq3Ak)
Seventy Two killed resisting gun registration in Boston
http://tinyurl.com/m3rhskr
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 07:51 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Molly K. at October 27, 2013 07:52 PM (lRMRe)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 27, 2013 07:52 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 27, 2013 07:53 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: AltonJackson
I've heard that one before... lol.
...you sick bastard!
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:53 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 27, 2013 07:53 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 27, 2013 07:54 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 07:54 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 07:54 PM (6ce4O)
Pinch runner gets picked off for the final out.
It is only 20% as weird as last night's final play.
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 07:55 PM (QdOC1)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 27, 2013 07:55 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 27, 2013 07:55 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear and a PVC bow at October 27, 2013 07:55 PM (JMmQ9)
It sucks. That seems flippant, but it's the only way I can say it.>>>>
I had to take care of Dad twenty-four hours a day for the last month of his life. He died very badly, screaming and running around the house. He'd ignored his cancer for two years, and he didn't tell us. It was a mess.
For about a month after he died, I couldn't sleep in my bed. I had to sleep on the sofa, with a DVD going. I had the heebie-jeebies bad.
Almost every night, I'd fall asleep and hear Dad shouting for me. I'd jump up off the sofa and take a few steps, and then I'd realize, "It's over. He's dead. I'm in my house, not his."
When I hear healthy young leftists talk about how death panels are a good thing and that old people are costing us too much, I console myself with the fact that every one of them will someday be old and ill, and that's when they'll get it.
Their suffering will be magnificent and well deserved. It'll also be a "teachable moment" for them.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 07:55 PM (81H5s)
//i'd have supported the King, myself; but not a gun-grabbing Massachusetts governor
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 27, 2013 07:56 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 27, 2013 07:56 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 07:57 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 27, 2013 11:55 PM (bCEmE)
for sure, Tami . . . it's crazy! I really want the Sox to win. I know you feel otherwise.
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 07:57 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at October 27, 2013 07:57 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2013 11:53 PM (8lmkt) <<<
Was getting a sense of deja vu with the bungling in the 8th, and a little worried.
But that was a nice finish.
Posted by: non-essential commenter #27791629 at October 27, 2013 07:58 PM (/C6Mj)
Posted by: mindful webworker - where in heaven am I? at October 27, 2013 07:58 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear and a PVC bow at October 27, 2013 07:59 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 08:00 PM (lq3Ak)
Their suffering will be magnificent and well deserved. It'll also be a "teachable moment" for them.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 11:55 PM (81H5s)
I console myself knowing that at the rate things are going they will swing from lamp posts long before they get old.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 27, 2013 08:01 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 27, 2013 08:01 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Capt. Silicone! at October 27, 2013 08:02 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 27, 2013 08:03 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Wee tu slow at October 27, 2013 08:04 PM (6ce4O)
Just funnin' ya Jake that's sum nice shootin'.
My buddy hit a beer can at 200 yards with a 1911. Now THAT'S a mortar shot...
Posted by: DAve at October 27, 2013 08:04 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 27, 2013 08:04 PM (aDwsi)
He's never been there before. This is his first. He's been a spark-plug for three different teams in the playoffs, but he's never been to the WS before this.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 08:06 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Capt. Silicone! at October 28, 2013 12:02 AM (6ce4O)
Well, chase the little suckers a bit and you'll find 'em.
Posted by: tcn at October 27, 2013 08:06 PM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Wee tu slow at October 27, 2013 08:07 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 27, 2013 08:08 PM (e8kgV)
When Mom was in the hospice, one of the nurses said, "I could just kick myself in the ass. I voted for that fucker Obama twice, and I just had my hours cut, and my health insurance was canceled."
Mom was lying on the bed with her oxygen mask on. I looked over at her and she rolled her eyes.
After the nurse left, Mom said, "I can't believe I'm dying surrounded by idiots."
We laughed.
She was worried about my future, so I told her, "Look, both my parents died of cancer, so statistically I'm a sure thing for getting it too. I'll be dead long before the really bad stuff happens."
And we laughed some more.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 08:09 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: Jesse at October 27, 2013 08:12 PM (As/N8)
Posted by: AltonJackson has a bamboo spear and a PVC bow at October 27, 2013 08:13 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Gingy at October 27, 2013 08:13 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 28, 2013 12:09 AM (81H5s)
That's the key. Honestly, even gallows humor is better than none. You get to decide how happy you are, and you get to decide whether to laugh or cry, and usually (not always) laughing is more fun.
My husband and I have been laughing about how much fun we have had since losing the house to the bank this month. I haven't mowed, cleaned out a garden, fixed any plumbing or mended any fences all month. But I have had lots of time to go to the park with the boy, read books I have been stacking up, and even go through all the photos I had meant to sort.
Laughing is working so far. I cried when we walked out for the last time, but then I was done with that crap.
Posted by: tcn at October 27, 2013 08:15 PM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 08:16 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: Gingy
What you're experiencing is called a "lull". Unless by "everyone", you mean "the cool kids".
In that case, I'm not sure. We'll know more after the lull.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 08:17 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 08:17 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: DAve at October 27, 2013 08:17 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 08:18 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: Gingy at October 28, 2013 12:13 AM (N/cFh)
I can check out any time I want, but I can never leave.....
Posted by: Hotel Cthulhuia at October 27, 2013 08:19 PM (T1005)
Posted by: DAve at October 27, 2013 08:20 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: DAve at October 28, 2013 12:17 AM (b7yum)
Funny that I've never been tempted to watch that....
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 08:20 PM (T1005)
side, it is science!! well unless there is some silicone in there..
Thats why you flip them over
Posted by: Jean at October 27, 2013 08:21 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 27, 2013 08:21 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: tcn
I'll pray for your continued good spirits! Hugs don't solve anything, but they sure-as-hell help!
You're a living example of, "what doesn't kill us only makes us stronger."
Prayers up!
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 08:21 PM (lq3Ak)
340 Well since i got fios...
...and then two months later i lost my "valued customer" discount after 17 years... I guess I'm not a valued customer any more
Posted by: DAve at October 27, 2013 08:23 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Jesse at October 27, 2013 08:23 PM (As/N8)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 08:23 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: mindful webworker - checked out already at October 27, 2013 08:25 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 27, 2013 08:29 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 27, 2013 08:32 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 27, 2013 08:33 PM (DmNpO)
***
Neither have I. Butchery set to music doesn't appeal to me.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 28, 2013 12:29 AM (DmNpO)
I dunno about that.....it just seems to me that I find more enjoyment with movies where the guys I like survive and the guys I don't, don't.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 08:34 PM (T1005)
when my Dad commited suicide, all kinds of false "friends" dropped off the face of the earth.. I quite literally never heard from them again. My grief and the circumstance made them too uncomfortable I guess.
Except for my best friend. She dropped everything, and flew to North Dakota in December, got a room in a hotel near my parents home. She didn't ask. She just came. And she called me and said she was there, and if I needed a break or someone to talk to she would be there.
So during the day I sold my Dad's car and guns, talked to the sheriff, got the death certificate, filed the insurance, packed up his stuff for my mom, made memorial arrangements. And then collapsed at the hotel. That's a friend
Posted by: thunderb at October 27, 2013 08:38 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: jack.h at October 27, 2013 08:38 PM (E7i+5)
Next thing you know, Iggy Pop will die. And Keith Richards.
Posted by: Null at October 27, 2013 08:38 PM (xjpRj)
cthulu, if you're still looking for a place to hike, this site may be able to help: http://www.hikespeak.com/
Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 27, 2013 08:41 PM (JawqV)
Next thing you know, Iggy Pop will die. And Keith Richards.
Posted by: Null at October 28, 2013 12:38 AM (xjpRj)
I'm not sure that Keith is technically alive right now....
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 08:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at October 27, 2013 08:42 PM (DG83Y)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 08:44 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 08:45 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 08:46 PM (LpbKr)
Both my parents committed suicide by not cooperating in their treatment. They also refused to understand what their illnesses entailed, so they made us complicit in their deaths by forcing us to go behind their backs and countermand their advanced care directives.
We had medical power of attorney over them, so since both had inoperable terminal cancer, we had to choose which medications to withhold so that Dad would die faster, and then we had to tell them to not do chest compressions on Mom if her heart stopped. Chest compressions would've broken her ribs and punctured her lungs. She died of cardiac arrest.
I expect that the vast majority of my absent friends won't come back, but it's actually good. They weren't true friends after all.
My brother and I are in a very small club: people who were forced to be complicit in the suicides of both parents.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 08:47 PM (81H5s)
cthulu, if you're still looking for a place to hike, this site may be able to help: http://www.hikespeak.com/
Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 28, 2013 12:41 AM (JawqV)
I've found some good ones and am working some others, but will certainly check this out.
BTW -- if looking to hike in the area near Mt. Shasta, this guy -- http://hikemtshasta.com/blog/ -- has good and thorough info, including hints and pictures to exactly locate trailheads.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 08:47 PM (T1005)
Posted by: jack.h at October 27, 2013 08:50 PM (E7i+5)
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 27, 2013 08:51 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: thunderb at October 27, 2013 08:51 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: zombie at October 27, 2013 08:52 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 27, 2013 08:52 PM (qvify)
Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2013 12:52 AM (+cx5n)
Kinda reminds me of The Last Supper
http://imdb.to/1cb11dt
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 08:55 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 08:56 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 08:56 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 08:58 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 08:59 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Ncjisasexybitch at October 27, 2013 09:01 PM (yMSN1)
Posted by: Ncjisasexybitch at October 28, 2013 01:01 AM (yMSN1)
How is Cutler doing? Can't wait till the Packers-Bears game next week
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 09:02 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 27, 2013 09:02 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 09:03 PM (yMSN1)
If you live in NY, SF or LA, you may not need to see this, because you live it every day, but it should be required viewing for curious voters in flyover country.
And for that reason alone I give The Comedy a "thumbs up."
Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2013 12:52 AM (+cx5n)
Available via TPB
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 27, 2013 09:03 PM (tnJb0)
"A CIA quick reaction force ignored orders to wait and went into the compound, where they repelled 60 terrorists & saved 5 Americans."
Good. I hope they testify that Hillary shrieked at them to stop, and they told her to shove it up her fat ass.
By all accounts the 60 Minutes story was devastating to Hillary.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 27, 2013 09:04 PM (81H5s)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 09:04 PM (yMSN1)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 09:04 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 09:05 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 27, 2013 09:06 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 09:07 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: lou's a girl at October 27, 2013 09:08 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 09:08 PM (yMSN1)
Wow, had no idea thx
Posted by: jack.h at October 27, 2013 09:08 PM (E7i+5)
Posted by: Jake at October 27, 2013 09:08 PM (6ce4O)
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 09:09 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 09:10 PM (yMSN1)
Where in Texas ?
The BH wants to go on a Texas "scouting trip" beginning of December, step 1 of escaping the People's Republic of Illinois, so excited!
Posted by: Steck at October 27, 2013 09:10 PM (RL7U1)
Posted by: Arbalest at October 27, 2013 09:10 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 09:12 PM (yMSN1)
I feel like hungover shit
Getting Vietnamese stew to settle my stomach
Posted by: Ncjisasexybitch at October 28, 2013 01:01 AM (yMSN1)
just because this song just turned on right now
http://youtu.be/1AGTX-svWUY
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 09:12 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 01:12 AM (yMSN1)
sure, pop onto steam and I'll give you my email
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 09:14 PM (vJdyz)
A lot of people have such a link in their connection but don't know about it unless that is how it comes to their premises. They're also fairly common for bringing voice links across mountain ranges. In my semi-regular job we've made use of temporary microwave repeater rigs to bring heavy duty bandwidth into places with insufficient pipes or in some cases, none at all.
A few years ago, we had a 200 Mb symmetrical connection into the Ft. Mason Center in San Francisco for the YouTube Live event. It was fun trying to come up with ways to test the throughput.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 27, 2013 09:14 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: DAve at October 27, 2013 09:16 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 27, 2013 09:16 PM (4tK7k)
When "Ian Galt" mentioned that they try to fill air-time with everything under the sun, I get that. What I don't understand is "homers" asking about why announcers think that "great" players aren't "great" -?
Television should be a much easier medium to broadcast upon, seeing as you don't need to "fill-in-the-blanks" with description. Acknowledging that a "great" player made a "great" play isn't "worship". It is knowledge advanced.
Perhaps how you choose to voice your opinion, and through what verbiage is a point of contention, but witnessing greatness often elicits ebullient accolades.
Should one team be the 'victim' of greatness, the viewer may say something like: "Why Don't These Guys Just Bust a Nut on XPlayer?!? They seem to love him and disregard my team and/or feelings!?!"
...Get over yourselves. Your emotions make you Progressive Bitches to What Amounts to nothing.
-When someone flubs names repeatedly? --check.
-When someone slashes the English Language repeatedly? --check.
-When someone predicts strategy wrong repeatedly? --check.
-When someone steps on the "play-by-play" repeatedly, or vice-versa, steps on the color commentary repeatedly? --check.
The folks that bitch, cry and moan about officials, umpires and play-by-play guys have no idea what it takes to stay within that medium or system.
I leave the commentary alone, but the amateurs are there to shit on the professionals time-after-time. I had to write this, as a member of "Those Who Do; Not Teach".
I've done the play-by-play and I can say that Joe Buck is very, very good. Tim McCarver is not always, but that minuta is subjective.
Those of us who grew up on radio have a far better reminder of what is "professional". Those of us who grew up listening to National Broadcasts have an even better idea. Those of us who grew up on baseball, radio and national broadcasts have pinpoint accuracy as to what constitutes correct vs. incorrect, greatness vs. Fandom, hyperbole vs. statistics and Shit vs Shinola.
Announcers are PAID to make situations seem "greater" than they are. However, the finality of the Post-Season amplifies each-and-every situation, whether you like it or not.
As a semi-coward, I post this at this late hour because of two factors:
#1. I am right.
#2. I am drunk.
The rest of you can knock it off. As a "bone", Shannon Sharpe is incapable of speaking The English Language. Ex-NFL athletes are IDIOTS, for the most-part when it comes to decorum and language. They talk over one-another, blow-the-prose and generally suck.
...and that's 65% "white guys".
If I hear, "They've done good", one more time? I'll do what I've done. I'll call the local station. Like a jackass. It never works. I'll continue doing it, however.
Maybe one day, I'll hear, "They've done well.
...perchance to dream.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 09:16 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 09:17 PM (yMSN1)
Police said that Lopez was walking away from them with the pellet gun in his LEFT hand when they ordered him to drop the weapon. The deputy said that when Lopez turned around, he raised the gun in their direction and fearing for their lives the deputy blasted away.
Autopsy reports indicate 7 entry wounds in the RIGHT side of his body.
This indicates that he was turning to his right when he turned, the gun was in his left hand and could not have been pointed at the deputies
The FBI has joined the investigation
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 09:19 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2013 09:19 PM (eVFV0)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 01:15 AM (yMSN1)
well, you should have a message pop up with my email when you jump back on
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 09:19 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 27, 2013 09:20 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: Barry "Shaggy" Obama at October 27, 2013 09:21 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 09:23 PM (ZfBzk)
Posted by: RWC at October 27, 2013 09:24 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 09:25 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Alana at October 27, 2013 09:26 PM (Ab5pq)
When you go with a lie and there's no time to think it out, you miss small details like that.
They'll go with the full turn to the right explanation...and then people are gonna ask how he managed to fall on the toy in that scenario...and then they'll need a different lie for that....it never ends once you go down that path...
...and then when it looks like their story is falling apart, some witness or video will appear saying there wasn't any shouted warnings...etc, etc.
Right now, contradicting witnesses would be too scared to get mouthy.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 27, 2013 09:27 PM (4tK7k)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 27, 2013 09:29 PM (qvify)
Yea, they blow dogs. Hard. Even when they're on TV, I'll turn the sound down and listen on the radio.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 27, 2013 09:29 PM (4tK7k)
It is good to be right.
It is BETTER to be drunk!
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 09:29 PM (QdOC1)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 27, 2013 09:32 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Purp at October 28, 2013 01:20 AM (4tK7k)
I mostly listen to the Cubs and Tigers, so I am familiar with Bob Brenly. He has a great sense of humor, and provides good insight into the game. On the other hand, I can't stand Jim Price's eternal obsequiousness towards announcer Dan Dickerson.
As an aside, the Pirate announcers are a pretty good remedy for insomnia, IMHO.
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 09:35 PM (QdOC1)
cthulhu: Hiking areas.
- Medicine Lake Volcano, 30 miles NE of Mt. Shasta. Nearby is Glass Mountain ... lots of volcanic stuff.
- Glass Mountain (a different one) in Mono County.
- Pteroglyphs near the San Antonio Mission, near Lockwood CA. Watch out for stray 155mm HE and various AP rounds.
- From the San Antonio Mission, go north, past Junipero Serra peak to the Arroyo Seco campground and eventually on to Sycamore Cellars Winery
Posted by: Arbalest at October 28, 2013 01:10 AM (FlRtG)
The coming week's trip is Southbound -- the Mt Shasta link was one that I found useful from the trip 2 weeks ago heading Northbound. We did the Haystack first, and it's seriously Out In The Middle of Nowheresville, and the directions dropped us right at the trailhead and gave us good confidence for the hike. Then we did a hike in Dunsmuir on our way back -- good directions, good hints, good description.
I'm leaning toward Pinnacles on Day 1; something in the area of Griffith Park for Day 2; and I need something between Disneyland and the Ronald Reagan Library for Day 10 (maybe another Griffith Park) and something close to I-5, 99, or 152 on Day 11 for heading back.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 09:36 PM (T1005)
200 Mb is enough for, let's say, 200 streaming videos, 3125 voice calls uncompressed, a smallish to medium sized corp data center, or, an entire small town ...
Cores are the thick bits in the middle, that everything else attaches too ...
Just like an apple, or, a building ...
Posted by: Joe at October 27, 2013 09:46 PM (/oZbq)
200 Mb would be vastly in excess of what you'd need for those uses. Most video streaming services top out at less than 20 Mb for their best quality. Keep in mind the rate I mentioned for that YouTube event was not something you're likely to see in an inexpensive consumer option.
Gaming isn't that dependent on speed. The amount of information exchanged between the players and/or server isn't very big. In fact, it can be quite small. Latency is a much bigger factor. For example, satellite connections have a lot of added latency because the signal has to go up to the bird and back down again before it gets to the internet proper. This is a big problem for anything that requires rapid responses. Otherwise you can find yourself shooting at where your opponent was a second before you fired.
I couldn't say whether a microwave relay adds any significant latency. The company should be able to say or if you can run ping tests at a location where it is already in use, that data can then be compared to what the game maker says is needed for the game.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 27, 2013 09:49 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 27, 2013 09:52 PM (qvify)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 09:54 PM (igDix)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 09:55 PM (igDix)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 09:58 PM (7D6bD)
I just had an idea so profound that it knocked me over the head and stole my wallet. No wait, that's not quite right. Whatever.
Anyway, it was a grand idea. An epic idea, inspired by that nonsense earlier about the sexism of meat.
Liberalism has for years been able to get by on its talent for making the absurd something you can turn into tomorrow's cult if you have enough important-sounding people supporting it and providing tenuous rationales with all the right buzz-words in them.
So why don't we hijack the process and turn the absurdity up to 11 and pull the knobs off, maybe even create a site (or sites) that create new liberal memes. Memes that give us the giggles.
I'll start this trend. I give you, the inherent imperialism of shoes. Free the feet! Footwear is for fascists!
Poor bastards will never know what hit them, or why the remaining sane people with D's by their names no longer want to be associated with them.
Posted by: Cato at October 27, 2013 10:00 PM (DQP0I)
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 10:01 PM (vJdyz)
Just remember...
Kathleen Supercilious...
the majority of people calling for me to resign are people I don't work for.
Typical of the hubris of our ruling class. She needs to go, email your congresscritters.
Posted by: The Farmer at October 27, 2013 10:08 PM (6rhzD)
"The Fed has worked for decades to suppress inflation, but economists, including Janet Yellen, President ObamaÂ’s nominee to lead the Fed starting next year, have long argued that a little inflation is particularly valuable when the economy is weak. Rising prices help companies increase profits; rising wages help borrowers repay debts. Inflation also encourages people and businesses to borrow money and spend it more quickly. "
Inflation does indeed help those who are in debt (i.e. the federal government), because debt is paid with inflated dollars. However, inflation also tends to destroy the average person's buying power.
More doublespeak in the article:
http://tinyurl.com/q3pq26c
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 10:11 PM (QdOC1)
Microwave coms, like photons in a fiber, or electrons on a copper wire, travel at the speed of light (or near). The typical components of delay are the serialization (bandwidth - microwave typically has ample bandwidth), processing, and propagation (distance). Satellites use microwaves but the distances are so huge so they typically are not adequate for interactive traffic (like games).
The only real problem with terrestrial microwaves is that the transmission medium is the air itself, and, as such, is subject to changes in same, or, what we call "weather".
Posted by: Joe at October 27, 2013 10:13 PM (/oZbq)
I just had an idea so profound that it knocked me over the head and stole my wallet. No wait, that's not quite right. Whatever.
Anyway, it was a grand idea. An epic idea, inspired by that nonsense earlier about the sexism of meat.
Liberalism has for years been able to get by on its talent for making the absurd something you canturn into tomorrow's cultif you have enough important-sounding people supporting it and providing tenuous rationales with all the right buzz-words in them.
So why don't we hijack the process and turn the absurdity up to 11 and pull the knobs off, maybe even create a site (or sites) that create new liberalmemes. Memes that give us the giggles.
I'll start this trend. I give you, the inherent imperialism of shoes. Free the feet! Footwear is for fascists!
Poor bastards will never know what hit them, or why the remaining sane people with D's by their names no longer want to be associated with them.
Posted by: Cato at October 28, 2013 02:00 AM (DQP0I)
That wouldn't be a bad idea if the MSM were honest, and picked up memes from the environment.....unfortunately, however, they are bought-and-paid-for foot soldiers for the DNC and will only pick up memes doled out to them by their masters. That's why any damned thing uttered by TFG or Fauxcohontas gets echoed -- no matter how idiotic -- while sensible people saying sensible things outside the beltway get the mute button.
Which brings me to a related topic -- Cruz is looking like a fuckin' Vulcan genius playing 4-dimensional chess in that he just caused horrendous drama by demanding something so outlandish, so outrageous.....that the Dems are going to be begging for it four weeks later. He just gave every single R a free advertisement for their next election -- just juxtapose the Dems most strident anti-Obamacare-delay rhetoric against their coming-soon-to-your-website demand for an Obamacare delay.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 10:15 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Epobirs at October 28, 2013 02:13 AM (kcfmt)
heh, God I love The IT Crowd.
I am serious though, it catching on fire would be worth the extra $85 I'm spending on a extended warranty
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 10:16 PM (vJdyz)
Just remember...
Kathleen Supercilious...
the majority of people calling for me to resign are people I don't work for.
Typical of the hubris of our ruling class. She needs to go,email your congresscritters.
Posted by: The Farmer at October 28, 2013 02:08 AM (6rhzD)
Unfortunately, my congresscritter doesn't work for me, either.....which is one reason why I'm looking to change congresscritters by moving the fuck out of this state.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 10:17 PM (T1005)
"The Fed has worked for decades to suppress inflation, but economists,
including Janet Yellen, President ObamaÂ’s nominee to lead the Fed
starting next year, have long argued that a little inflation is
particularly valuable when the economy is weak. Rising prices help
companies increase profits; rising wages help borrowers repay debts.
Inflation also encourages people and businesses to borrow money and
spend it more quickly. "
Inflation does indeed help those who are in debt (i.e. the federal government), because debt is paid with inflated dollars. However, inflation also tends to destroy the average person's buying power.
More doublespeak in the article:
http://tinyurl.com/q3pq26c
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 28, 2013 02:11 AM (QdOC1)
Inflation is looting, plain and simple -- specifically, looting those who have savings and those whose wages rise slower than the rate of inflation.
And, BTW, this is old old old old old school -- “The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.” -- V. I. Lenin.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 10:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2013 10:21 PM (vJdyz)
It is BETTER to be drunk!"
Posted by: Ian Galt
Hear! Hear!
*clink!*
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 28, 2013 02:20 AM (lq3Ak)
And it is BEST to be King!
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 10:23 PM (QdOC1)
As it is I'll wait for more facts to come out
As someone who almost shot a kid in the face because of a toy gun I can't second guess the cops here with the info given yet Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 01:58 AM
Fatal entry wounds in the right hip and right chest, gun in the left hand. Cops said he turned and raised the gun at them. They shot before the gun could possibly have been pointed at them.
Gun in the left hand was the cops own report. Entry wounds in right side of body was in the autopsy report. That alone means they shot him before he had a chance to aim it at them or even drop it
Why didn't he know when the cops hit the siren? That section of Santa Rosa is a rough area and the relations between cops and the Latino population there is not what you'd call amiable. Cop sirens are probably as common as car horns. Why stop when you're not actually doing anything illegal? It's not a crime to carry a toy gun as long as you're not trying to hold up a 7-11 with it
Why didn't he drop the gun when ordered? It looks like he was turning to see who was yelling when he got plugged by the deputy.
Cops are getting more militarized, more apt to shoot first and ask questions later, and are almost always exonerated if they can claim "fear for their lives". They've even shot family pets using that justification, as if a dog can understand a raging cop. Two Filipina women were damn near killed in L.A. for the crime of delivering papers early in the morning in a neighborhood full of hyped up cops.
Sonoma County has had a rash of citizens killed by police in the last five years, it's not a good indication of a force that appraises their situation before opening fire
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 10:23 PM (aTXUx)
Not saying that I am buying it, but it was his position that officer involved shootings are way up as a result.
Posted by: navybrat at October 27, 2013 10:29 PM (AYGBr)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 01:58 AM
Had you shot the kid, you'd be doing time for manslaughter and his family would have sued you into beggary.
A cop doesn't have to use that restraint if his department will clam up, the union will lawyer up for you, prosecutors tend to take you at your word, and you're often immune from litigation
Witnesses often tend to "forget" things if fellow cops start pulling you over for all sorts of bullshit reasons and cuffing you while they turn your car or home inside out searching it for drugs or guns.
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 10:30 PM (aTXUx)
...not men.
Infallibility falls only to God. The Horde's Collective Mistakes are a-plenty.
The further we get from the Constitution, the further we drift into the ether.
The further we distance ourselves from God, the more our Pride grows.
...Pride comes before the fall.
Pray for your perceived "enemies". It keeps you humble. More humble than praying for your well-received friends in those little gray boxes.
Good. And Humble.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 10:36 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: rickl at October 27, 2013 10:37 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 10:42 PM (aTXUx)
Not saying that I am buying it, but it was his position that officer involved shootings are way up as a result.
Posted by: navybrat at October 28, 2013 02:29 AM (AYGBr)
I hate to say this, but police need to to be trained in a simulator with a taser in their jock where they get nailed both for a "bad shoot" or when they would have been killed.....and they need to go through months of this at the academy, starting with easy and slow and progressing through fast hard calls, until they get to a reasonable accuracy level. It is unjust and unfair to put guys into a situation where they could commit manslaughter or come home in a bag because they didn't get enough preparation and drill and blame it on "twitchy finger syndrome."
The retired cop's reaction of "boys will be boys" is just infuriating. How many of his men got tossed into the meat grinder for bad shoots? How many of them ended up dead for no fucking reason besides sloppiness? His men deserve better than that.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 10:46 PM (T1005)
Posted by: DAve at October 27, 2013 10:56 PM (b7yum)
^I'll buy this for less than the current sum of a one dollar note.^
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 10:56 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: DAve at October 27, 2013 10:59 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 11:00 PM (0XV8C)
Posted by: Joe at October 27, 2013 11:05 PM (/oZbq)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 11:06 PM (0XV8C)
I just hate second guessing a cop's actions
If he shoots and it's righteous...sweet Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 03:00 AM
So in a state with CC, every and any citizen could be a deadly threat to the cop. So therefore the cop is entitled to blow him into hamburger because he didn't respect the cop's authority so must have been thinking of shooting the cop.
Cops should be second guessed, they have power and the means to kill. The greater the power, the greater the responsibility
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 11:07 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 11:07 PM (0XV8C)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 11:08 PM (0XV8C)
I listened to a podcast by a retired Police Captain basically saying
that the younger recruits are more inclined to shoot the perp. Something
about them being raised on video games. Twitchy finger syndrome.
Not saying that I am buying it, but it was his position that officer involved shootings are way up as a result.
Posted by: navybrat at October 28, 2013 02:29 AM (AYGBr)
I hate to say this, but police need to to be trained in a simulator with a taser in their jock where they get nailed both for a "bad shoot" or when they would have been killed.....and they need to go through months of this at the academy, starting with easy and slow and progressing through fast hard calls, until they get to a reasonable accuracy level. It is unjust and unfair to put guys into a situation where they could commit manslaughter or come home in a bag because they didn't get enough preparation and drill and blame it on "twitchy finger syndrome."
The retired cop's reaction of "boys will be boys" is just infuriating. How many of his men got tossed into the meat grinder for bad shoots? How many of them ended up dead for no fucking reason besides sloppiness? His men deserve better than that.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 02:46 AM (T1005)
In case anyone missed it, I'm feelin' a bit cranky tonight. But I'd like to throw out a scenario. Let's just say you were bored one evening and decided to watch a random movie in a theater in some random town -- I dunno, maybe The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, CO, on July 20 -- and some hypermedicated loonie-toons comes in through the emergency exit and starts shooting up the place. By some sort of miracle, however, an armed policeman enters the theater through another door approximately 60 seconds into the massacre -- unlike the actual event.
How much training, how much drill, and how much professionalism would you want that policeman to have? Several of the people inside the darkened theater were in costume, the situation was chaotic and fluid, every second counted, and the policeman would have been in extreme peril from the moment he entered from someone who had already oriented himself to the situation. Furthermore, smoke grenades were wafting over a scene of carnage, with dead and dying cluttering the area.
In such a scenario, I'd want someone who was really, really, really good and practiced at sorting out the dangerous from the innocent -- and if the death total ended up with "psycho -- 12; cop --2", I'd consider that a reason to sack the entire management of the police department and start over.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 11:11 PM (T1005)
The problem with the Lopez shooting is that the cops justification for killing a boy with a toy gun was that the kid raised the gun at them. Gun in the left hand and bullets in the kid's right side is making their version of the incident a bit sketchy to say the least. The elapsed time between reporting a suspicious person and calling for paramedics seemed a bit quick too, but events can happen in a few seconds so I'll hold off on casting doubt based on that
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 11:12 PM (aTXUx)
^I'll buy this for less than the current sum of a one dollar note.^
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 28, 2013 02:56 AM (lq3Ak)
???
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 11:12 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 11:16 PM (1DZOE)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 11:17 PM (1DZOE)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 28, 2013 03:07 AM (aTXUx)
I think cops have less reason to fear a person with a CCW (it is called a CPL in Michigan), but they have to be alert when they come into contact with ANYBODY. It is the random idiots that can be frightening.
A MI state trooper got killed a month or so ago stopping a young man who was driving a truck on a suspended license. He pulled a gun out of the glove box and shot him in the head. Now I'll have to pay for the bastard's incarceration for the next 60+ years, along with his pregnant wife's incarceration as an accessory. Oh, and I'll probably have to support the kid she is going to pop out. Lovely.
http://tinyurl.com/oefcgh2
Posted by: Ian Galt at October 27, 2013 11:18 PM (QdOC1)
You are taking me wayyyyy out of context there Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 03:08 AM
Apologize for taking you out of context, but I really think if our Marines have to hold their fire with an enemy setting up an obvious attack by sworn enemies, the cops should be restrained from blowing away American citizens on our own streets because somebody sneezed
The second Dirty Harry had a scene where they were on the training grounds for street level shooting. Back then you didn't pass for shooting too many innocents in the pursuit of the bad guy. Now I wonder if the innocents are written off as collateral damage
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 11:19 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 27, 2013 11:23 PM (1DZOE)
Posted by: cthulhu
I was trying to agree with this:
"I hate to say this, but police need to to be trained in a simulator with a taser in their jock where they get nailed both for a "bad shoot" or when they would have been killed.....and they need to go through months of this at the academy, starting with easy and slow and progressing through fast hard calls, until they get to a reasonable accuracy level. It is unjust and unfair to put guys into a situation where they could commit manslaughter or come home in a bag because they didn't get enough preparation and drill and blame it on "twitchy finger syndrome."
The retired cop's reaction of "boys will be boys" is just infuriating. How many of his men got tossed into the meat grinder for bad shoots? How many of them ended up dead for no fucking reason besides sloppiness? His men deserve better than that."
...Without recreating two paragraphs.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 27, 2013 11:23 PM (lq3Ak)
Oh, the seven cops feared the old man because he was threatening them with a 12 inch knife which was downgraded to a 12 inch shoehorn
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 11:24 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 02:15 AM (T100
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My guess is that it won't matter even a little.
I have come to realize that the whole thing is beyond idiotic and waiting for it to stop being idiotic is actually idiotic.
Brand loyalty is trumping all other things at this point. It is going to require events so devastating that brand loyalty is crushed before anything will change.
Posted by: jc at October 27, 2013 11:27 PM (PlzOe)
It doesn't mean shit for a kid to pull a gun on a cop and the cops know this
I go with the saying about 12/6
As far as the Cali shooting I don't know what I would have done
Do I think the cop have to wait for someone to shoot first or to actually be in the situation to have a chance to get a shot off? Of course not
I just hate second guessing a cop's actions
If he shoots and it's righteous...sweet
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 03:00 AM (0XV8C)
I've been in management a long time -- I hate to second-guess the guy actually exposed to the problem, in general. If you're running a bunch of assembly workers and have to deal with a stopped-up toilet that they need, I'm not going to summon you before a board of plumbers for your mistakes. Further, I well recognize that dealing with malefactors is dangerous....which is, precisely, the reason I tend to leave it to the police.
But it is also true that ultimate power requires ultimate control and ultimate supervision. If someone is going to be toting around a combined grand jury, indictment, jury trial, sentence, appeal, and execution in a pocket-sized container labeled "Glock", one might expect a few safeguards and restrictions to be involved. I, myself, would find it useful for a jury to hear "I scored in the 99th percentile in the standardized LEO deadly-force exercise during my last run in March." That, along with, "I saw the perp reach into the shadow of his hoodie and begin to pull out something shiny -- after he was down, it turned out to be a reflectorized ticket stub" would put me a long way to "unfortunate, but a good shoot."
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 11:28 PM (T1005)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2013 11:28 PM (aTXUx)
As a mil cop we trained and trained and trained some more but our budget was sweet
Big cities cut the training budgets all the time and stick these young cops in dangerous neighborhoods were they are outgunned
The whole situation is out of whack
Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 28, 2013 03:16 AM (1DZOE)
If you're going to put someone out there with the power of life-and-death on their arm -- for God's sake, ensure they're trained. If you're going to put eyes and ears out on the street, no such problem -- but make sure they run away from instead of toward major issues.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 11:31 PM (T1005)
I know I bashed cops the other day, but, as I did then, gotta say that the Aurora cops did some pretty heroic stuff after that shooting at the theatre - mainly having to do with handling the injured in the aftermath. The ambulances got caught up in a bureaucratic cesspool with their emergency director insisting that they remain at a relatively distant staging area and significantly delaying response while children were critically injured. Many of those who were shot were transported to the hospitals by the cops themselves after the roadblock became apparent.
In my own interactions with A-town cops I found them to be reasonable and intelligent, but this hasn't always been the case with family members. There are also way too many of them. And then, there was that one time when, in another "wrong house" scenario, they shot a certified hand gun trainer in the ass because he was cleaning his gun and turned to face them when they came to his door. He's lucky to be alive.
Posted by: Joe at October 27, 2013 11:33 PM (/oZbq)
looking like a fuckin' Vulcan genius playing 4-dimensional chess in that
he just caused horrendous drama by demanding something so outlandish,
so outrageous.....that the Dems are going to be begging for it
four weeks later. He just gave every single R a free advertisement for
their next election -- just juxtapose the Dems most strident
anti-Obamacare-delay rhetoric against their coming-soon-to-your-website
demand for an Obamacare delay.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 02:15 AM (T100 ====My guess is that it won't matter even a little.
I have come to realize that the whole thing is beyond idiotic and waiting for it to stop being idiotic is actually idiotic.
Brand loyalty is trumping all other things at this point. It is going to require events so devastating that brand loyalty is crushed before anything will change.
Posted by: jc at October 28, 2013 03:27 AM (PlzOe)
There's actually a very interesting core to this -- Dems are constantly attacking GOP brand loyalty and flaunting their caucus discipline groupthink....but each time they do, they further illuminate that the GOP has actual tenets worth arguing about where the Dems merely have an addiction to unrestricted power.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 11:37 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 28, 2013 03:37 AM (T1005)
And, BTW, IMHO the 'tea party' is on the right side of those GOP tenets, while the R[INO] establishment is on the wrong side. Ronaldus Magnus knew which side of his toast was buttered....John McLame, not so much.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 27, 2013 11:44 PM (T1005)
477 Yes but you must remember such scores would be inadmissable because the results would be racially and sexually biased.
Lib gone wild
Posted by: DAve at October 27, 2013 11:46 PM (b7yum)
How many voters would vote for a pro-life, TParty candidate if they had a D? How many voters would vote for a Stalinist if they had an R? To make the experiment the most fun, both candidates would be completely honest about their TP and Stalinist positions on all the issues.
Posted by: jc at October 28, 2013 12:00 AM (PlzOe)
How many voters would vote for a pro-life, TParty candidate if they had a D? How many voters would vote for a Stalinist if they had an R? To make the experiment the most fun, both candidates would be completely honest about their TP and Stalinist positions on all the issues.
Posted by: jc at October 28, 2013 04:00 AM (PlzOe)
===
it would the most fun if we could figger out a way to make an escalating scenario -- such as the R candidate openly saying "why of course I'll vote for Reid/Pelosi for leader/speaker, and vice versa for the D -- etc, etc, etc, etc. Set the study up to go to the full length required to find out how dumb is the dumbest, dumb of the truly fucking dumb.
Like a Leno J-Walking skit for voters, but go way over the top with it.
Posted by: jc at October 28, 2013 12:04 AM (PlzOe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtDJgsyKycY
Cellarful of Noise. Whatcha gonna do?
..."Love's Power. So tiny, you could drown it in a tear."
Where in the World does "tomorrow" lie for the tiny heart that's beating ...inside?
...Suh-man, Samantha!
*The ticking of the clock is a chilling sound.*
*bong*
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 28, 2013 12:16 AM (lq3Ak)
Samantha rises, puts her school-clothes on. News like this?
--won't be long.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 28, 2013 12:46 AM (lq3Ak)
Having never driven a car, Ms. Sebilius was put in charge of Obamacare's Engine.
They kept calling it "healthcare".
We knew it wasn't even insurance.
After the engine blew, no one was charged; and Kathleen Sebilius was promoted to Head of the Great Lakes' Sector of I.P.A.B.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 28, 2013 01:00 AM (lq3Ak)
Democrat Science: "We Do What We Must Because We Can".
...for the "good of all-of-us", except the ones who are dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxTNqYAWISs
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 28, 2013 01:14 AM (lq3Ak)
...Now we're out of beta, we're releasing on-time.
I'm GLaD I got burned, think of all the things we learned...
...for the people who are still alive.
Posted by: Slapweasel at October 28, 2013 01:21 AM (lq3Ak)
Regardless, it is NOT a Utah GOP concerted effort nor is it an RNC strategy to defeat other Republicans (tea party or otherwise). A couple of business people quoted about sending their money to a new guy does not equal a Republican Party betrayal.
Posted by: Conservative Belle at October 28, 2013 03:05 AM (bUn8f)
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