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November 12, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (11-12-2013) - Capitalist Running Dog Edition
— Maetenloch

If you listen to artists, writers, academics and journalists, you would think that thousands of them operate in a radical underground. They say the right things. They 'speak truth to power', 'transgress boundaries', and all the rest of it. But you will have noticed that they are careful only to challenge religions that won't hurt them (Christianity) and governments that won't arrest them (democracies).

And here is where the Great Revolution begins:

Yes, that's right, the revolution starts here - in some Third World sweatshop!
But, alas, not in the way that Leftists have traditionally fantasized about: the bloody uprising, the cowed elite, the self-appointed and strangely middle-class functionaries of the proletarian dictatorship coldly dispensing "justice."
The workers are busy. They have orders to fill, and there won't be a "revolution" unless the young Western leftists get their silly masks to give them a sense of fake camaraderie and being part of the night.

Today most 'radicals' on the left are merely engaged in dissident role-playing along with a bit of revolutionary cosplay and puppetry.

Useful Term of the Day: Caplanization

Caplanization is the process by which the proponents of a particular policy (in this case unrestricted immigration) argue for it in such a manner than virtually all reasonable people are attracted to the opposite position.

Is Bullying Heading Up the Shark Ramp?

Well it does seem that the usual suspects have glommed onto the anti-bullying bandwagon and are now using the term as just another synonym for 'being offended by someone'.

Case in point: Moms Demand anti-gun activists who claim they were 'bullied' by open-carry activists in Dallas. Here's a picture they released of the open-carriers intimidating and 'bullying' people.

And here's another picture showing the same exact scene as posed for Moms Demand. Bullying content: Zero.

Venezuela Goes Full Banana Republic

President Maduro ordered the government-sanctioned looting of an electronics chain for charging 'too much'.

Thousands of Venezuelans lined up outside the country's equivalent of Best Buy, a chain of electronics stores known as Daka, hoping for a bargain after the socialist government forced the company to charge customers "fair" prices.
.Members of Venezuela's National Guard, some of whom carried assault rifles, kept order at the stores as bargain hunters rushed to get inside.

"I want a Sony plasma television for the house," said Amanda Lisboa, 34, a business administrator, who had waited seven hours already outside one Caracas store. "It's going to be so cheap!"

.The president, who took over from Hugo ChÃƒÂ¡vez in April 2013, appeared on state television Friday calling for the "occupation" of the chain, which employs some 500 staff.

"This is for the good of the nation," Maduro said. "Leave nothing on the shelves, nothing in the warehouses . Let nothing remain in stock!"
.Daka's store managers, according to Maduro, have been arrested and are being held by the country's security services. Neither Daka nor the government responded to requests for comment.

Why France Said 'Non' to the Iran Deal

Because they know from experience that the Israelis mean what they say and will act accordingly; Obama and his feckless advisors not so much.

Though few people remember nowadays, in 1967, Paris occupied much the same position that Washington occupies now with respect to Israel: Not only was France Israel's chief arms supplier and Security Council patron, but it was the only country willing to supply Israel with essential equipment such as fighter jets. Israel's air force fought the Six-Day War with French Mirages; only the following year, in 1968, did America for the first time agree to sell it Phantom jets.
Consequently, Charles de Gaulle had every reason to think that when he spoke, Israel would listen. And the French president's message in 1967 was unequivocal: Under no circumstances must Israel launch a preemptive strike; if it did, it could kiss French patronage goodbye. Israel heard the message loud and clear-and preempted anyway. Facing what it deemed an existential threat, it decided that even the loss of its sole military supplier was the lesser evil.
France knows that today, Israel deems Iran's nuclear program an existential threat. France also knows that Israel would probably risk less by defying the Obama administration than it did by defying France in 1967: De Gaulle severed the military relationship completely, refusing even to deliver planes and gunboats Israel had already paid for, at a time when Israel had no assurance that Washington would fill the gap; today, given Israel's strong support in Congress, a similarly total American arms embargo seems unlikely. As a result, France may understand what Washington seems not to: that utterly disregarding Israel's concerns about Iran could push it to preempt despite its patron's objections, just as it did in 1967.

In fact French help in the 1960s is the main reason that Israel has nuclear weapons.

Lesser Known 80's Songs

As pointed out by pixy. In fact just a few weeks ago I used this video as a perfect example of a song just popular enough to appear on MTV a time or two but otherwise stay obscure.

A Modest Proposal For Dealing with the Social Security Insolvency Problem

Spike Lee Getting Sued by the Couple Whose Address He Retweeted as Zimmerman's

On the other hand he already settled and paid off the couple in March 2012 but now they're coming back for even more money. Too bad both can't lose.

Table Saw Kickback Video Ends Badly

Heed this lesson from 'nearly called stubs' Tom.

The average 10 inch table saw blade has an edge traveling at around 103 mph, or 166 kmh. As [Tom] demonstrates in his video, it's just not possible for a person to react fast enough to avoid injury. Please, both personal users and hackerspaces, understand general safety with all the tools you're using, and use proper safety equipment. As for [Tom], he's learned his lesson, and is now using a SawStop Table.

YouTube + Netflix = Half the Internet's Traffic

While file-sharing is less than 10%.

Vagisil: Weapon of the Patriarchy

It's tough being a feminist perpetual victim when you're beset on all sides by hate and misogyny along with oppression by creams and ointments.

What Vagisil does is pretend to be our friend, helping us deal with this smell that's been plaguing our social life; in reality they are manipulating us into thinking we stink in the first place. adding yet another paranoia to the long list carried around by the 21st century woman trying to survive in a system that teaches them to hate themselves.

...I'm not buying Vagisil. Ever.

But it's not like men don't have their own struggles with hygiene advertising...

Doing The Lobster

This is one of those disturbing ideas that would never occur in a normal brain - but once you've heard of it, you'll never ever be able to get it out of yours. You have been warned.

The AoSHQ group. Yeah.

Teh Tweet!

Tonight's post brought to you by Sgt. Spock:

Even if he had never played Spock, Leonard Nimoy would still have been a very interesting man.

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1 First!!

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 06:29 PM (z4WKX)

2 Dammit!

Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2013 06:29 PM (8lmkt)

3 Second?

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 06:29 PM (z4WKX)

4 I mean, congratulations, CarolT. That was churlish of me. (dammit)

Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2013 06:29 PM (8lmkt)

5 fml

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 12, 2013 06:31 PM (xa1/W)

6 Peaches, this is the first time I was ever first for ONT. DonÂ’t begrudge me, I have a feeling I will have phone call tonight that they are going to send Paul to the hospital again! His oxygen was very low and he couldnÂ’t remember what I had said and he kept coughing. Then he said he felt feverish. He was just there Friday after getting out after two weeks last Tuesday.

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 06:31 PM (z4WKX)

7 Earlyish

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 06:32 PM (wNF3N)

8 Peaches, I know you love to be first on the ONT. They are talking about No Va meeting in last thread so I decided to give it a try. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 06:34 PM (z4WKX)

9 I would have been first if the Kindle Fire had an actual browser.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at November 12, 2013 06:34 PM (dZGNV)

10 Is Vendette here? Or is she still in Cochran's bed in the last thread?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 12, 2013 06:34 PM (yz6yg)

11 That was churlish of me.

Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2013 10:29 PM (8lmkt)

Red Sox fan.

Need I say more?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 06:34 PM (oJ5Fd)

Evening morons, heya Peaches!

Update: Koda, our St. Bernard, is still at the vet (almost 48 hours now). Has not stood since they gave her the seizure medication, although no more seizures either. Tomorrow we are trying to get her seen by a canine neurologist to figure out what exactly is going on. She did walk after the seizures 2 nights ago before the medications, so not clear if it's the medicine, pain and fear of falling again, or an actual neurologic problem.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 12, 2013 06:35 PM (b2cFu)

13 Is Vendette here? Or is she still in Cochran's bed in the last thread? Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 12, 2013 10:34 PM (yz6yg) I'm here. Cochran's got Mrs. Cochran.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 06:36 PM (GAUeg)

14 Red Sox fan. Need I say more? You mad, bro?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 12, 2013 06:36 PM (yz6yg)

15 Peaches, I know you love to be first on the ONT. They are talking about No Va meeting in last thread so I decided to give it a try. Carol Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 10:34 PM (z4WKX) We have a habit of doing that.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 06:36 PM (GAUeg)

16 Cochran's got Mrs. Cochran. That we know of....

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 12, 2013 06:37 PM (yz6yg)

17 Another Socialized Medicine Â“SuccessÂ” Story A possible glimpse of the future that Obamacare, and potential single-payer system, can be seen in that toilet-paperless hellhole, Venezuela: Â“The countryÂ’s 1999 constitution guarantees free universal health care to Venezuelans, who sit on the worldÂ’s largest proven oil reserves. President Nicolas MaduroÂ’s government insists itÂ’s complying. Yet of the countryÂ’s 100 fully functioning public hospitals, nine in 10 have just 7 percent of the supplies they needÂ…Â” More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3917

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 06:37 PM (Vk2pI)

18 Yo all. Nice ONT Maet

Posted by: zeera at November 12, 2013 06:37 PM (6JlRh)

19 I once had a small piece of wood kick back from a table saw. It hit the solid wood wall, the planked ceiling and still had enough power to go completely through a hickory cabinet door. Those little anti-kickback pawls are there for a reason. If I hadn't been lucky it would have gone though my head.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 06:38 PM (l3vZN)

20 Peaches, this is the first time I was ever first for ONT.

Feels so good, huh? Srsly, congrats, I was just fuckin' with ya. That was great!

Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2013 06:38 PM (8lmkt)

21 "Though few people remember nowadays, in 1967, Paris occupied much the same position that Washington occupies now with respect to Israel: Not only was France Israel's chief arms supplier and Security Council patron, but it was the only country willing to supply Israel with essential equipment such as fighter jets. Israel's air force fought the Six-Day War with French Mirages; only the following year, in 1968, did America for the first time agree to sell it Phantom jets." __________________________ No shit. I had no idea. Makes sense though. Right around the late 60s is when 1/2 of Muslim Africa decided to move to Paris. And voila, the country is now just slightly less anti-Semitic politically than Iran.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 12, 2013 06:39 PM (0LHZx)

22 Geez, "Rock Lobster" by the B-52s just got a whole lot more disturbing.

Posted by: no good deed at November 12, 2013 06:39 PM (k55Fc)

23 I have a feeling I will have phone call tonight that they are going to send Paul to the hospital again! His oxygen was very low and he couldnÂ’t remember what I had said and he kept coughing. Then he said he felt feverish. He was just there Friday after getting out after two weeks last Tuesday.

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 10:31 PM (z4WKX)

and just like that...the rough night I'm having doesn't seem so bad after all...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 12, 2013 06:39 PM (xa1/W)

24 You mad, bro?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 12, 2013 10:36 PM (yz6yg)

Talk to me when the Red Sox hit double digits.

[And Ortiz is a fucking steroid monster. That's the 800 lb. gorilla in the baseball room]

Sazerac...it's what was for dinner.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 06:39 PM (oJ5Fd)

25 >>> Geez, "Rock Lobster" by the B-52s just got a whole lot more disturbing We're gonna need more butter.

Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2013 06:41 PM (HgUQA)

26 I should make mention that I despise music videos. very frequently the worst thing for a song, yes even worse than knowing the actual lyrics, is seeng the fat slob singing them. I had always thought the romeo void song was a quirky little thing that I caught here and there in the 80s necessarily sung by some cute little thing in a short little thing more closely resembling nothing than something. thanks to this vile den I now know that the song was sung by some heifer, or holstein, and will never be able to unsee it again. even worse, her line "I might like you better if we slept together but something in your eyes says maybe that's never" is no longer interesting, that is the same look every guy and girl under 50 stone has ever given her and all she is ever gonna see in someone's eyes. sometihing more than ironic about naming a band something "void" when you have a blackhole filler singing. fucking musics. if y'all are gonna post music, post lyrics.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 06:41 PM (Z9EHQ)

27 I'm here. Cochran's got Mrs. Cochran.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 10:36 PM (GAUeg)

...and where is Cochran? Did the missus catch up with him?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 12, 2013 06:41 PM (xa1/W)

28 [And Ortiz is a fucking steroid monster. That's the 800 lb. gorilla in the baseball room] He was a steroid monster. Compare a pic of him 8 years or so ago and now. He's waaaaaay smaller. I think you're seeing legit Big Papi now.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 06:42 PM (GEICT)

29 Fighting Discrimination Against Biological Fathers Men who raise the children they have sired, and do to in a monogamous relationship (i.e. Marriage) with the mother of said children, ought to be supported by society and our cultural norms and mores. It is a family with both a mother and a father that provides an optimal environment for children, especially their own biological offspring. Yet such a man is facing discrimination from his own company, by denying parental leave for a new child because he is that childÂ’s biological father: Â“all parents of new children have the option of 10 paid weeks off Â— except biological fathers.Â” As a result, he has filed an EEOC charge against the company that discriminated against him. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3893

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 06:42 PM (Vk2pI)

30 Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 10:38 PM (l3vZN)

When I was a young and stupid carpenter I got to replace the drywall above the table saw.

The cool, hip finish carpenter got his hand in the blade and there was a nice three-foot arc of blood across the ceiling.

He didn't lose anything....he was lucky.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 06:42 PM (oJ5Fd)

31 Heh. I knew the vagisil article was from the Guardian before I even checked.

Posted by: Debbie Wasserman-Teleprompter at November 12, 2013 06:42 PM (MMC8r)

32 "'I want a Sony plasma television for the house,' said Amanda Lisboa, 34, a business administrator, who had waited seven hours already outside one Caracas store. 'It's going to be so cheap!'"

Shorter version:

"I want [SHIT]. It's going to be [FREE]."

I guess when the stores are completely empty of goods, the state Vice Ministry Of Supreme Social Happiness can take over the manufacturing of plasma TVs, just as they have done with toilet paper. That will surely work out for the best.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 12, 2013 06:42 PM (gqT4g)

33 President Maduro ordered the government-sanctioned looting of an electronics chain for charging 'too much'.

Comrade Chairman Barry: Hey that's not a bad idea. I order my FSA to do the same. Get those evil capitalists!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2013 06:43 PM (JivuR)

34 [And Ortiz is a fucking steroid monster. That's the 800 lb. gorilla in the baseball room] Ummmm, dude, look at pics of him this year and 2 years ago. He's smaller And even if he did - which I dispute - I know you're good with it since ARod was juicing and I just heard crickets all about that.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 12, 2013 06:43 PM (yz6yg)

35 He was a steroid monster. Compare a pic of him 8 years or so ago and now. He's waaaaaay smaller. I think you're seeing legit Big Papi now. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 10:42 PM (GEICT) Less-Big Papi?

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 06:43 PM (GAUeg)

SPRING COLLECTION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FSRGoMb-aM

Posted by: THE VAPORS at November 12, 2013 06:43 PM (nrFCt)

37 They should pair those V fer Vendetta masks w/ that Arafat/PLO doo rag. That would be all the revolutionary rage.

Posted by: Tim Fountain at November 12, 2013 06:43 PM (iYlIC)

38 I think you're seeing legit Big Papi now.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 10:42 PM (GEICT)

If it weren't for the three-year cratering and then a hall-of-Fame run the last few, I would buy that argument.

He just has a better biochemist now.

I'll bet he spends $1,000,000/year on drugs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 06:44 PM (oJ5Fd)

39 Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 10:31 PM (z4WKX) Thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 06:44 PM (Vk2pI)

40 Re-post from the last thread just 'cause I want to stir the pot a bit:

ont's up. CarolT cheated.

Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2013 10:30 PM (8lmkt)

Probably took a page out of Bill Belichick's playbook.

Posted by: NC Ref at November 12, 2013 06:44 PM (Myqtp)

41 He didn't lose anything....he was lucky.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 10:42 PM (oJ5Fd)

And as a bonus...the young stupid carpenter was able to get a little less stupid by being smart enough to learn from someone else's mistakes...which is always easier and less painful than learning from your own.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 12, 2013 06:45 PM (xa1/W)

42 He just has a better biochemist now. I'll bet he spends $1,000,000/year on drugs. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 10:44 PM (oJ5Fd) Then where's the bulk?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 06:45 PM (GEICT)

43 Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 12, 2013 10:43 PM (yz6yg)

Guilty as charged. A-Rod is/was a juicer.

But he would also be a great player regardless, and Ortiz would be an also-ran.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 06:45 PM (oJ5Fd)

44 Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 10:41 PM (Z9EHQ)

Video killed the radio star.

Posted by: things jefferson airplane didn't say at November 12, 2013 06:46 PM (rkewj)

45 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 12, 2013 10:45 PM (xa1/W)

Exactly. I was lucky too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 06:46 PM (oJ5Fd)

46 I should make mention that I despise music videos. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 10:41 PM (Z9EHQ) Most are crud (Sturgeon's revelation and all), but there are some d**n good ones. Two of my favorites: "Hurt" by Johnny Cash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aF9AJm0RFc "Seasons in the Abyss" by Slayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvuO2EvCTAE

Posted by: The Video Hat at November 12, 2013 06:46 PM (Vk2pI)

"This is for the good of the nation," Maduro said. "Leave nothing on the shelves, nothing in the warehouses . Let nothing remain in stock!"

Daka's store managers, according to Maduro, have been arrested and are being held by the country's security services. Neither Daka nor the government responded to requests for comment.

Nothing is better for a nation then government sponsored looting and arresting store employees.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2013 06:46 PM (JivuR)

48 and another thing anti-bullying? what feminazi betamBale crap is this? you are not gonna end bullying - EVER. It is like the foodchain, someone is always, ALWAYS, gonna be on the bottom. Besides, if it were not for bullying I would never have learned how to make a soul scarring insult and duck instantly afterwards. It may have required five learnin's but I been learned.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 06:46 PM (Z9EHQ)

49 How can I help these keeeds?

Posted by: Tim Fountain at November 12, 2013 06:47 PM (iYlIC)

50 But he would also be a great player regardless, and Ortiz would be an also-ran. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 10:45 PM (oJ5Fd) Ahhhh. So we're just making shit up. Hey! You should work for the government! I hear there might be some openings in IT soon.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 06:47 PM (GEICT)

51 Guilty as charged. A-Rod is/was a juicer. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 10:45 PM (oJ5Fd And a pompous a@@ Sidecar?

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 06:47 PM (GAUeg)

52 Dang, fluffy, and now I'm off butter too. LMAO

Posted by: no good deed at November 12, 2013 06:47 PM (k55Fc)

53 But he would also be a great player regardless, and Ortiz would be an also-ran. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 10:45 PM (oJ5Fd) Why are all New York sports fans like self-licking ice cream cones? Shit, Philly fans aren't even this bad.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 12, 2013 06:47 PM (yz6yg)

54 Um. No. I originally started typing all the songs from that list that AREN'T obscure but the list got too long. Was that written by an 18 year old?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 12, 2013 06:47 PM (DmNpO)

55 'Thousands of Venezuelans lined up outside the country's equivalent of Best Buy, a chain of electronics stores known as Daka, hoping for a bargain after the socialist government forced the company to charge customers "fair" prices.' I think we should ban the use of the word "fair" with jail time for anyone using it in print or broadcast. The impossibility of defining it and its facility for creating socialist mischief far outweighs any usefulness the word might have once had.

Posted by: Socrateae at November 12, 2013 06:47 PM (6uy7v)

56 Yes, Spock is indeed very interesting: Mr. Spock sings about Bilbo Baggins http://tinyurl.com/cgh2hk

Posted by: Thrawn at November 12, 2013 06:47 PM (ZyqBH)

57 Is it just me, or is anyone else having a problem with the Social Security solution link? I just see a bunch of e-baum type stuff. (Yeah, I actually read the content. Sue me) :-)

Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at November 12, 2013 06:48 PM (yeM7r)

58 So would Red Lobster be woman/woman?

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 12, 2013 06:48 PM (Zswg6)

59 Probably took a page out of Bill Belichick's playbook.

Posted by: NC Ref at November 12, 2013 10:44 PM (Myqtp)

And on that note...I'm ducking out before the mushroom cloud appears.

Back to the torture chambers. Yay me.

Later roonz and roonettez. Fear no evil...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 12, 2013 06:48 PM (xa1/W)

60 Bullshit, a dirty scamper is a smelly scamper. If you don't keep it clean, you get a funk in yo junk.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at November 12, 2013 06:48 PM (Jiol0)

61 Maet, in case you missed it Gerard van der leun dropped in late on the ONT and thanked you for the kind words.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 06:48 PM (wNF3N)

62 The tune was about being beaten and raped by her father. The "I might like you better..." lyric is a quote of her father's. It's a horrible story and it always made me ill to listen to, even though it had a catchy melody.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 12, 2013 06:48 PM (2N+JL)

63 Then where's the bulk?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 10:45 PM (GEICT)

He's juicing to stay healthy and strong. He is a huge guy naturally, and doesn't need to bulk up. That's the benefit of a good biochemist who understands how to design the steroids, and give them in the right combinations, and with the right timing.

Lance Armstrong went years without getting caught once. Why do you think that Ortiz or Pujols were never nailed? Same idea. Experts who can stay ahead of the testers.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 06:50 PM (oJ5Fd)

64 And Hat: Thanks for the tip on Venezuela health "care."

Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at November 12, 2013 06:51 PM (yeM7r)

65 "Today most 'radicals' on the left are merely engaged in dissident role-playing along with a bit of revolutionary cosplay." That was also true of a good share of the radicals of the late sixties, early seventies. I attended college from 1968-1972. My first semester I had a roommate who fell in with a bunch of so-called radicals. These were not just people who went to the occasional anti-war demonstration. They were full blown hippies, didn't work, took money from their parents, were in or hung out with SDS, worked on underground newspapers, continually used drugs. They were the kind of people who ridiculed and disrespected their fathers for being wage slaves and taking part in America's evil capitalism, but bitched like hell if mommy and daddy's weekly check was late. My roommate was dealing with epilepsy and was extremely gullible. Her doctor had made it clear to her to stay away from alcohol and LSD because they could trigger grand mal seizures. She had already had a couple in the dorm. These people were trying to talk her into trying LSD because her doctor couldn't be trusted because he was "the man". Toward the end of the semester she had been used sexually and tossed aside like a used kleenex, by one of these guys after another. It reached a point where she was hanging around the dorm room crying all the time and the AD was trying to get her to go to a counselor. I have despised people on the left ever since college, but it was a good lesson for me seeing them up close for what they really are. And now we have a president who admired these useless, hypocritical bastards.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 06:51 PM (DpI6K)

66 Was that written by an 18 year old?

That's what I thought or maybe I just watched an inordinate amount of MTV.

Posted by: no good deed at November 12, 2013 06:52 PM (k55Fc)

67 Sidecar?

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 10:47 PM (GAUeg)

Great drink.

And if you like spice, find a good bartender who will use Thai bitters and make you a rickshaw.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 06:52 PM (oJ5Fd)

68 Finish or Finnish?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 06:53 PM (c7RIo)

69 The tune was about being beaten and raped by her father. The "I might like you better..." lyric is a quote of her father's. It's a horrible story and it always made me ill to listen to, even though it had a catchy melody. Posted by: Inspector Cussword nothing wrong with learning to stuff your emotions deep inside where no one else has to hear about 'em. I was in a literature class once where we hada read an awful poem about some girl being abused by her father while everyone was having a party somewhere else in the house. she was writing about how she could hear everyone else celebrating and having fun. some dope in our class was asked a splain the poem, she said it was about a girl who had been sent to her room for misbehavin'. prof literally did a facepalm.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 06:53 PM (Z9EHQ)

70 Shit, Philly fans aren't even this bad.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 12, 2013 10:47 PM (yz6yg)

Fucking amateurs.

I have been to Oakland Raiders games.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 06:54 PM (oJ5Fd)

71 I still use my late father's little table saw. It's older than me, and has none of those nifty safety features. And it also has only a third-horse motor, so it tends to stall out instead of kick back. I religiously use a push stick if my fingers might get close to the blade without one.

I've cut thousands of pieces of wood with it over the years, and never had a close call. But I also take my time, and don't rush things. People in a hurry are the ones that get hurt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2013 06:54 PM (8Fl6F)

72 Is it just me, or is anyone else having a problem with the Social Security solution link? I just see a bunch of e-baum type stuff. (Yeah, I actually read the content. Sue me) :-) Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad you have to input your ssn to see the story.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 06:55 PM (Z9EHQ)

73 You do not "juice" without bulking. Armstrong did a number of things. Blood doping for instance. But anabolic steroids or various forms of testosterone will result in bulking up. That's the whole point. Bigger and stronger. And baseball players didn't get caught because they weren't testing for it. When they started, that's when you saw the dramatic decrease in body mass. Ortiz and Pudge being the two best examples.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 06:55 PM (GEICT)

74 And Hat: Thanks for the tip on Venezuela health "care." Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at November 12, 2013 10:51 PM (yeM7r) No prob. Glad you liked.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 06:55 PM (Vk2pI)

75 How to Create 5 Makeshift Urban Survival Lights http://tinyurl.com/kgxvjex

Posted by: The Manly Hat at November 12, 2013 06:56 PM (Vk2pI)

76 the projectile that came off the blade was a little corner of an oak trim board. When it hit all those surfaces it sounded like a gun going off. Scared the Bejeesus out of me!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 06:56 PM (l3vZN)

77 I May Have An Idea To Avert The Insolvent Social Security Fund Problem **** Yep. It solves it alright. I am just amazed by the folks who do that. Impressed through the facepalm. Sometimes, as when he slid down the roof, they don't even know what lies on the other side.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 12, 2013 06:56 PM (DmNpO)

78 Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 10:42 PM (Vk2pI All parents except the biological father... So... the mom? What other parents are there.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 12, 2013 06:56 PM (GaqMa)

79 My FIL lost the tips of his fingers to a table saw last year. Know what upset him the most? He's no longer eligible for active duty if they recall him. I told him it doesn't matter, he can still shoot the zombies when the apocalypse comes.

Posted by: pookysgirl at November 12, 2013 06:57 PM (kMnHs)

80 so what eddie money's take me home tonight was about having been abandoned by his father at an amusement park and how he was starving and cold and wanted someone to give him a ride home? fuck

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 06:57 PM (Z9EHQ)

81 Say, does that ball cream come in chipotle scent?

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 12, 2013 06:57 PM (tIStt)

82 Finish or Finnish? Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 10:53 PM (c7RIo) You have reminded me of when I was a kid in Edmonton. Esa Tikkanen, a player for Edmonton Oilers and later the New York Rangers, was a great irritant to the rest of the league and no one could understand his English. He appeared in a local commercial where the person kept saying he was Swedish. He'd respond, "Finnish." And on it went multiple times. Ah, memories.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 06:57 PM (GAUeg)

83 So we're just making shit up.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 10:47 PM (GEICT)

Talk shit about A-Rod all you want (and it will be true), but the man is a technically great baseball player.

He can't handle the pressure so will never be in the pantheon, but he has a sweet swing, could run when he was young, could go to his left and right as well as anyone in baseball, has an excellent and accurate arm, and understands how to play the game.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 06:58 PM (oJ5Fd)

84 So fresh. So dry.

Posted by: Sumanitutankaowachi at November 12, 2013 06:58 PM (k5fc/)

85 From previous thread or two:
Q: Cherokee Nation?
A: Paul Revere and the Raiders

No?

Posted by: Trotsky with an ice-pick in his head at November 12, 2013 06:58 PM (MAlP4)

86 Snow flurries today in W. North Carolina. Currently 24 deg. at our house..., but you know, Global Warming.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 06:59 PM (aDwsi)

87 He can't handle the pressure so will never be in the pantheon, but he has a sweet swing, could run when he was young, could go to his left and right as well as anyone in baseball, has an excellent and accurate arm, and understands how to play the game. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 10:58 PM (oJ5Fd) And sucks so much dick during the postseason that even gay pornstars are horrified.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 06:59 PM (GEICT)

88 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson (follow me on twitter!) at November 12, 2013 06:59 PM (JMmQ9)

89 http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/

hit it, peeps

Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2013 06:59 PM (8lmkt)

90 Great drink. And if you like spice, find a good bartender who will use Thai bitters and make you a rickshaw. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 10:52 PM (oJ5Fd) I'll have to find a good spot. I've been to places where the bartender has no clue what a sidecar is. I've even had a scotch sour screwed up royally.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:00 PM (GAUeg)

91 so I been learned something else, regarding management, just let it happen, don't fight it you may feel like you want to be an important and productive memeber of a team contributing and everthang but sometimes ya jsut need a except that ain't yo role no mo. by the way , why is their an apostrophe in "ain't" it ain't even really a word

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:00 PM (Z9EHQ)

92 CarolT, still sending up prayers every night for Paul. I don't know what else to say. I am so sorry for all this, my friend.

Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2013 07:00 PM (8lmkt)

93 I still use my late father's little table saw. It's older than me, and has none of those nifty safety features. And it also has only a third-horse motor, so it tends to stall out instead of kick back. I religiously use a push stick if my fingers might get close to the blade without one.

I've cut thousands of pieces of wood with it over the years, and never had a close call. But I also take my time, and don't rush things. People in a hurry are the ones that get hurt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2013 10:54 PM (8Fl6F)

Heh...I was just thinking about a radial arm saw we used for years. If you were careful there was no problem, but we had some times that we were in a hurry. Closest call was when my buddy was cutting something way to close and the saw blade left its imprint in his fingernail. That was the last cut we made that day lol.

Posted by: NC Ref at November 12, 2013 07:00 PM (Myqtp)

94 All I will say is that steroids if properly administered, especially testosterone, are incredibly effective at achieving a whole host of effects on the human physiology.

Bulking.
Leaning.
Endurance.
Strength.
Recovery.

All can be achieved with a properly designed program.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 12, 2013 07:01 PM (dwtaK)

95 He can't handle the pressure so will never be in the pantheon, but he has a sweet swing, could run when he was young, could go to his left and right as well as anyone in baseball, has an excellent and accurate arm, and understands how to play the game. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 10:58 PM (oJ5Fd) As long as he doesn't smack balls out of first-basemen's gloves. Lovingly,

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:01 PM (GAUeg)

96 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 10:55 PM (GEICT)

They are making cocktails of HGH and anabolic steroids (at much lower doses than in year's past) that maintain a high level. And they can clear the metabolites with other hormones and drugs much better than even a few years ago.

They aren't building as much bulk, but they are building cross-sectional area of dense muscle, and that = power and speed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 07:01 PM (oJ5Fd)

97 Parkour really is beautiful to watch, but you know the outtakes have to be some of the most painful things imaginable. They used to have a show on MTV called Scarred. It showed horrible accidents from extreme sports, and then, the guys would show their scars. I had to change the channel more often than not. It was like a highlight reel of nothing but accidents like the college basketball player who shattered his leg on an elevated court.

Posted by: no good deed at November 12, 2013 07:01 PM (k55Fc)

98 Say, does that ball cream come in chipotle scent? Posted by: Joe Biden I think you were looking for the word "flavor"

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:01 PM (Z9EHQ)

99 Romeo Void and 80s sax!

Posted by: Yeff at November 12, 2013 07:02 PM (EN+Sm)

100 Lovingly,

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:01 PM (GAUeg)

Bush-league.

No argument from me.

He has a $300,000,000 body and a ten cent head.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 07:02 PM (oJ5Fd)

101 All parents except the biological father... So... the mom? What other parents are there. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 12, 2013 10:56 PM (GaqMa) Same-sex couples, adoptive parents, &c. Basically everyone except the actual biological father who actually took an interest in raising his own kid.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 07:02 PM (Vk2pI)

102 He'd respond, "Finnish." And on it went multiple times.

Ah, memories. Posted by: Vendette
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Mah nam iss Brad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEohxBZSwrY

Posted by: Rosetta Stone at November 12, 2013 07:02 PM (aDwsi)

103 He has a $300,000,000 body and a ten cent head. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo blush

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:02 PM (Z9EHQ)

104 I'm out.

Thanks folks. You have made me defend A-Rod.

Assholes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2013 07:03 PM (oJ5Fd)

105

We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House

Posted by: John McCain at November 12, 2013 07:03 PM (Pr6hk)

106 Night CDB

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 07:03 PM (GEICT)

107 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 07:03 PM (T1005)

108 blush Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 11:02 PM (Z9EHQ) And modesty, too!

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:04 PM (GAUeg)

109 hunt's point sends tis regards, night, CharlieBrown'sDildo

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:04 PM (Z9EHQ)

110 And modesty, too! Posted by: Vendette hey Vendette!

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:04 PM (Z9EHQ)

111 Carol - Thoughts..., I mean really, thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:06 PM (aDwsi)

112 @109

Hunt's Point the Bronx?

Ahh.

Hookers, Car Parts and Racing.

Good times, good times.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 12, 2013 07:06 PM (dwtaK)

113 Hello, Y5!

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:06 PM (GAUeg)

114 hey, the Star Trek where Kirk and Spock, and Uhura, are swapped into the liberal universe where everyone has obamacare and is killing each other in order to gain promotions, what was the name of the hot brunette that was kirk's girl? character name, not real name.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:07 PM (Z9EHQ)

115 I'm confused on this whole "Bullying" push as well. Is the irony lost on them that the concept of a mob attack is what they rail against? I remember a time in HS that they chanted "Kill the Freshman" at me during gym, only now do I realize that Dodgeball was excellent practice for the Republican party and its circular firing squads.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:07 PM (BeFHp)

116 Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 11:02 PM (Vk2pI) How the heck do they justify adoptive parents but not biological? It seems to me someone was trying to prevent "baby daddies" from taking off every 6 weeks but was overly hamfisted. Weird.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 12, 2013 07:07 PM (GaqMa)

117 Hookers, Car Parts and Racing.
Good times, good times.
Posted by: Kreplach
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Hooker headers..., right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:07 PM (aDwsi)

118 Ya know, somehow I missed Spock directing "Three Men and a Baby." Maybe I was drinking beer or chasing women or...........no, wait, I was only 12. What the Hell was I doing?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2013 07:09 PM (3wZCW)

119 hunt's point is prime hobo hunting territory, especially in the rail yard.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:09 PM (Z9EHQ)

120 Bullying? That is a specialty of the Left. It is as ironic as a Dem braying the virtue of the "No Labels" movement.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:09 PM (aDwsi)

121 hey, the Star Trek where Kirk and Spock, and Uhura, are swapped into the liberal universe where everyone has obamacare and is killing each other in order to gain promotions, what was the name of the hot brunette that was kirk's girl? character name, not real name. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 11:07 PM (Z9EHQ) Navigator?

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:09 PM (GAUeg)

122 www.aoltv.com/2008/07/14/captain-kirks-top-five-women/

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 07:10 PM (c7RIo)

123 Fuck Bill O'Reilly.

How's that for "bitter" and "angry."

The far left call us extreme for not completely capitulating to their every harebrained utopia clusterfuck program. Now O'Reilly calls us extreme for not "compromising" with the big spending surrender queen RINOs.

Now he wonders why he gets angry e-mails. What an out of touch blowhard fucknut.

Posted by: ElMachinist at November 12, 2013 07:11 PM (1aC1J)

124 and just like that...the rough night I'm having doesn't seem so bad after all... Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 12, 2013 10:39 PM (xa1/W) GGE - IÂ’m sorry you are having a bad night. But heÂ’s been in and out of the hospital or rehab since March 30 & is considered a quadriplegic from multiple infections. You never know what is going to happen, life can change in a minute. I know itÂ’s a saying but my late mother wrote it down in a prayer book. I donÂ’t want to go get it, itÂ’s something like this: Yesterday was the past, tomorrow is the future. Today is the present, which is why we call it a Â“present!Â” In other words enjoy every minute you can. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 07:11 PM (z4WKX)

125 Then where's the bulk? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk It's being held in the deep ocean. Or is it the Montreal protocol now?

Posted by: Greppin` The Hash: Global warming and granola aficionado at November 12, 2013 07:12 PM (+w1hQ)

126 For those of you so bold as to post at the Kos, Huff Po, or other leftie swamps, here is a nice article by Gavin McInnes : http://takimag.com/article/10_new_rules_for_radicals_gavin_mcinnes

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:12 PM (aDwsi)

127 no good deed at November 12, 2013 11:01 PM

The Stamkos injury yesterday was horrific yesterday. You see the replay and think "Dang, how hard did he have to hit the goal to make his skate bend that way". Not the same I'm sure, but I honestly couldn't watch it a second time.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:12 PM (BeFHp)

128 Lieutenant Marlena Moreau.

Posted by: JT Kirk at November 12, 2013 07:12 PM (rkewj)

129 Just a note, the blog with the post about the masks links to a white supremacist blog. http://alternativeright.com/blog/category/the-revolution-starts-here

Posted by: Tugar at November 12, 2013 07:12 PM (ThXYv)

130 121 hey, the Star Trek where Kirk and Spock, and Uhura, are swapped into the liberal universe where everyone has obamacare and is killing each other in order to gain promotions, what was the name of the hot brunette that was kirk's girl? character name, not real name. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 11:07 PM (Z9EHQ) Lieutenant Marlena Moreau

Posted by: Thrawn at November 12, 2013 07:13 PM (ZyqBH)

131 hey, the Star Trek where Kirk and Spock, and Uhura, are swapped into the liberal universe where everyone has obamacare and is killing each other in order to gain promotions, what was the name of the hot brunette that was kirk's girl? character name, not real name. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 11:07 PM (Z9EHQ) Navigator? Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:09 PM that's your thread-winner, right there

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2013 07:14 PM (JMmQ9)

132
Now he wonders why he gets angry e-mails. What an out of touch blowhard fucknut.
Posted by: ElMachinist
-----------------

I was encouraged by the fact that *did* receive thousands of emails pointing out the error of his thinking.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:14 PM (aDwsi)

133 Navigator? Posted by: Vendette ha. no it was lieutenant moreau played by barbara luna. I think barbara luna was available for filming private episodes' at least you get that impression from her web presence. however, being, about 80 something I do not think she is available anymore. does workers comp or aflac cover a broken hip?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:15 PM (Z9EHQ)

134 The Stamkos injury yesterday was horrific yesterday. You see the replay and think "Dang, how hard did he have to hit the goal to make his skate bend that way". Not the same I'm sure, but I honestly couldn't watch it a second time. Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 11:12 PM (BeFHp) I will not watch it. I know it happened, and that's all I need to know.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:15 PM (GAUeg)

135 that's your thread-winner, right there Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2013 11:14 PM (JMmQ9) *Blushes*

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:17 PM (GAUeg)

136 @117

Yeah, headers.

That's the ticket.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 12, 2013 07:17 PM (dwtaK)

137 andycanuck, JT Kirk at N, Thrawn thank you , thank you , and thank you.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:17 PM (Z9EHQ)

138 Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:15 PM

When I learned the bones of the body (in like 8th grade) we were taught "Tough Tibia, Fragile Fibula", a nice little mnemonic device. It had the side effect of causing me to cringe whenever I hear someone broke the tougher bone though.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:18 PM (BeFHp)

139 Romeo void! I loved that song, and THAT was when MTV was really good; little good bands. I remember some UHF channel in Boston started playing music videos. I remember Escalator of Life, a song. Berin Airlift. John Butcher Axis, good times. Depressing times, but good times.

Posted by: @ParisParamus at November 12, 2013 07:18 PM (qBoEM)

140 Till Tuesday. Escalator of Life!

Posted by: @ParisParamus at November 12, 2013 07:19 PM (qBoEM)

141 Good evening, Horde. I've got nothing.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:19 PM (N/cFh)

142 That's not very humerus, Flyguy.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 07:20 PM (c7RIo)

143 Had to Bing it, can't remember the name of every bit of strange I've had across this galaxy. Some of it really was strange, too.

Posted by: JT Kirk at November 12, 2013 07:20 PM (rkewj)

144 Romeo void! I loved that song, and THAT was when MTV was really good; little good bands. I remember some UHF channel in Boston started playing music videos. I remember Escalator of Life, a song. Berin Airlift. John Butcher Axis, good times. Depressing times, but good times. Posted by: @ParisParamus yeah well, if seeing the video did not ruin it go read 62. fucking knowledge

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:20 PM (Z9EHQ)

145 andycanuck at November 12, 2013 11:20 PM

Thank you for that. I needed a laugh tonight.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:20 PM (BeFHp)

146 26 I should make mention that I despise music videos. very frequently the worst thing for a song, yes even worse than knowing the actual lyrics, is seeng the fat slob singing them. I had always thought the romeo void song was a quirky little thing that I caught here and there in the 80s necessarily sung by some cute little thing in a short little thing more closely resembling nothing than something. thanks to this vile den I now know that the song was sung by some heifer, or holstein, and will never be able to unsee it again. even worse, her line "I might like you better if we slept together but something in your eyes says maybe that's never" is no longer interesting, that is the same look every guy and girl under 50 stone has ever given her and all she is ever gonna see in someone's eyes. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 10:41 PM (Z9EHQ) So are you saying that fat women shouldn't be singers, and they should wear burkas or something if they do?

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2013 07:21 PM (sdi6R)

147 When I learned the bones of the body (in like 8th grade) we were taught "Tough Tibia, Fragile Fibula", a nice little mnemonic device. It had the side effect of causing me to cringe whenever I hear someone broke the tougher bone though. Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 11:18 PM (BeFHp) I know a guy whose teenage son (I can't remember if he was 13 or 15 at the time) broke both of his legs just above the knee in gym class. He was doing nothing spectacular. It just happened. When he got out of the casts, they tested the bone density of his legs and he had the bone density of a 115-year-old woman. They were told that teenage boys have weak bones.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:21 PM (GAUeg)

148 WHY NO CALL
JIM

Posted by: the horta at November 12, 2013 07:21 PM (c7RIo)

149 Vendette and Gingy, Vendette and Cochran. FM, I am always in the wrong place at the wrong time. stupid job.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:21 PM (Z9EHQ)

150 71 I still use my late father's little table saw. It's older than me, and has none of those nifty safety features. And it also has only a third-horse motor, so it tends to stall out instead of kick back. I religiously use a push stick if my fingers might get close to the blade without one.

I've cut thousands of pieces of wood with it over the years, and never had a close call. But I also take my time, and don't rush things. People in a hurry are the ones that get hurt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2013 10:54 PM (8Fl6F)

I always approach a table saw with trepidation. You can tell the guys who get casual about using one by their missing digits.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 07:21 PM (T1005)

151 Now he wonders why he gets angry e-mails. What an out of touch blowhard fucknut. Posted by: ElMachinist at November 12, 2013 11:11 PM (1aC1J) I donÂ’t watch Bill except when he has Dennis Miller on. I think Kelly is going to obliterate Bill in the ratings and his ego, like the SCOAMFÂ’s is going to take a huge beating & I am going to enjoy it! I think Bill & The JEF have the biggest egos in the US, at least as far as public figures go. They can both go off into the sunset together and I would welcome Joe Biden as POTUS instead of the JEF any day. Biden is stupid. People canÂ’t help it if they lack a brain but I do not believe he hates this country like JEF does.

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 07:22 PM (z4WKX)

152 The hunters are arriving tomorrow at the place. Have to load up on groceries before they get here. Seems like it has gone from summer to winter this year.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 07:22 PM (l3vZN)

153 ;^)

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 07:22 PM (c7RIo)

154 Vendette and Gingy, Vendette and Cochran. FM, I am always in the wrong place at the wrong time. stupid job. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 11:21 PM (Z9EHQ) You have me and Gingy right now. You're blessed.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:23 PM (GAUeg)

155 I always approach a table saw with trepidation. You can tell the guys who get casual about using one by their missing digits. Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 11:21 PM (T1005) I never have a problem,

Posted by: Jigsaw at November 12, 2013 07:23 PM (ZyqBH)

156 I'm not too sure on my A and P, but I thought the fragile Metaphesial plate was near the top of the femur. Only place I can think of where bone density wouldn't be rock hard, so to speak.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:23 PM (BeFHp)

157 Just remember, when the left talks about "social justice", they actually mean "free shit".

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at November 12, 2013 07:24 PM (Jiol0)

158 Conservative Crank, I didn't catch your original comment about your dog's seizures, so I don't know how bad they were. I had a dog at one time that was epileptic, and until they got his medications adjusted, he would occasionally have a series of seizures. They would give him valium to stop the group seizures and enough of that kind of drug could make a dog have difficulty standing. Good luck with this.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 07:24 PM (DpI6K)

159 Vendette, the same thing happened to a guy I went to high school with. He broke his arm throwing a baseball his sophomore year. The bone just snapped.

Posted by: no good deed at November 12, 2013 07:24 PM (k55Fc)

160 So are you saying that fat women shouldn't be singers, and they should wear burkas or something if they do? Posted by: rickl nope. althought, I do have to say I wish I had never seen sinead o'connor. I reall ydo not want to see ANY singers or their videos. male, female, old, young , attractive, fugly. I also do not have any desire to know what any of 'em think about anythang. EVER. you're the garbage man pick up the garbage / you're the singer sing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:24 PM (Z9EHQ)

161 Good evening, Horde. I've got nothing. Posted by: Gingy
-------------------

What?!
No knitting, no yoga-induced pain?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:24 PM (aDwsi)

162 Cat Nip Trip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14DYUQtGuV4

Posted by: NCwoof at November 12, 2013 07:25 PM (aUQgu)

163 Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at November 12, 2013 11:24 PM

I heard the term "Reproductive Justice" the other day. I had to look it up. I should have known better really.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:25 PM (BeFHp)

164 I never have a problem
Posted by: Jigsaw
Me neither.

Posted by: Lefty at November 12, 2013 07:25 PM (c7RIo)

165 Not one of the ball washing/deodorant products contained pudding, or at least they didn't feel it prudent to brag about it. But oatmeal? I'm NOT soaking my sack in breakfast.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 07:25 PM (wNF3N)

166 *whistles his way in, buffing nails on shirt*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 07:25 PM (GEICT)

167 Lieutenant Marlena Moreau. Posted by: JT Kirk at November 12, 2013 11:12 PM I'll hit you with a font question in the morning. Hell, I'll hit you now: what was the font for the promo materials for the first Star Trek movie? (Star Trek: The Motion Picture)?

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2013 07:25 PM (JMmQ9)

168 151 Biden is stupid. People canÂ’t help it if they lack a brain but I do not believe he hates this country like JEF does. Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 11:22 PM (z4WKX) Bingo. I'll take Biden over TFG any day.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2013 07:26 PM (sdi6R)

169 94 All I will say is that steroids if properly administered, especially testosterone, are incredibly effective at achieving a whole host of effects on the human physiology.
Bulking.
Leaning.
Endurance.
Strength.
Recovery.
All can be achieved with a properly designed program.
Posted by: Kreplach at November 12, 2013 11:01 PM (dwtaK)

Yep. Pharmaceutical companies spent a lot of the 50s and 60s playing around with testosterone and similar compounds trying to make the 'perfect' steroid that built up muscle without any side-effects. They never found it but they did discover some steroids with more specific effects such as increased strength and/or fat-loss with less muscle growth.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 12, 2013 07:26 PM (pAlYe)

170 they actually mean "free shit". Posted by: Ashley Judd's
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"Redistribution".

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:26 PM (aDwsi)

171 Just got back from Thor II. Wow, what a fun movie. I enjoyed just about every aspect of it, except maybe the costumes, which I thought were only passable.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 12, 2013 07:26 PM (ObHhj)

172 Jinx the Cat, it feels the same here in MA. November 2 I was out in my garden all day with only a light sweatshirt on. I think some of it is in our minds because we turn clock back and itÂ’s dark after 4. It was 32 degrees in Boston at 9 pm tonight.

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 07:26 PM (z4WKX)

173 I reall ydo not want to see ANY singers or their videos. male, female, old, young , attractive, fugly. I also do not have any desire to know what any of 'em think about anythang. EVER. you're the garbage man pick up the garbage / you're the singer sing. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Z9EHQ) One of Canuckistan's most beloved singers was Rita MacNeil. She died in April. To put it frankly, she was obese, but she had pipes.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:26 PM (GAUeg)

174 Its a rather confusing affair when Slick Willy is Spock and Barack is Chewbacca.... what's a princess to do when universes switch polarity and become cross eyed?

Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 12, 2013 07:26 PM (hpgw1)

175 Is there a particular meal you would "[soak] your sack in"? I might enjoy the scent of a nice beef stew myself.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:27 PM (BeFHp)

176 Hey everybody!

The stepson called and said he just got promoted! He's now an E-3, Lance Corporal!

w000t!!!

Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 07:27 PM (doBIb)

177 Congrats EC

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 12, 2013 07:27 PM (GEICT)

178 " The hunters are arriving tomorrow at the place. Have to load up on groceries before they get here. Seems like it has gone from summer to winter this year." What are they hunting? Where is the place? Sorry if I don't know the backstory.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2013 07:27 PM (+65PY)

179 Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 11:27 PM (BeFHp) Honey, I'm a lady.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:27 PM (GAUeg)

180 Etta James. Wonderful voice. Not a bathing suit model

Posted by: Thunderb at November 12, 2013 07:28 PM (zOTsN)

181 Congrats to the new Lance Corporal!

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:28 PM (GAUeg)

182 154 Vendette and Gingy, Vendette and Cochran. FM, I am always in the wrong place at the wrong time. stupid job. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 11:21 PM (Z9EHQ) You have me and Gingy right now. You're blessed. Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:23 PM (GAUeg) --- Wut --- Mike Hammer: I got an A on a piano test, knit a shit-ton, and I'm still in pain from yesterday.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:28 PM (N/cFh)

183 It was 32 degrees in Boston at 9 pm tonight. Posted by: CarolT
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As I pointed out earlier, we had flurries today, and the last I looked, it was 24 deg., that's western NC.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:29 PM (aDwsi)

184 Gingy makes me look bad.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:29 PM (GAUeg)

185 Not all in our heads, Carol. I have a fire in my dirty, filthy woodstove tonight.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 07:29 PM (l3vZN)

186 It was more in response to: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 11:25 PM
but its good to know you're honest Vendette, its what I expect from the 'Ettes.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:29 PM (BeFHp)

187 Interestingly, apparently ms luna / lieutenant moreau appeared in a movie called mike hammer http://www.barbaraluna.com/movies1.html

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:29 PM (Z9EHQ)

188 Mike Hammer: I got an A on a piano test, knit a shit-ton, and I'm still in pain from yesterday. Posted by: Gingy
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So, the 'I got nothing' is misleading.
You got it all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:30 PM (aDwsi)

189 184 Gingy makes me look bad. Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:29 PM (GAUeg) --- Wut

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:30 PM (N/cFh)

190 Celebratory ONT hawtness!

http://tinyurl.com/opkrq73

Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 07:31 PM (doBIb)

191 Etta James / Keith Richards Jam

http://tinyurl.com/msdkj3r

Posted by: NCwoof at November 12, 2013 07:31 PM (aUQgu)

192 Y5, stay away from live performances of Heart then. Ann Wilson looks fetching in a double plus muu muu.

Actually, it's interesting to watch Heart videos from different decades, and watch how they artfully avoid showing the full bodied Ann in later years.

PS I saw them play a couple of years ago and the show was great.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 07:32 PM (wNF3N)

193 Cat Nip Trip *** "I get it now" LOL!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 12, 2013 07:32 PM (DmNpO)

194 Maet, YouÂ’re making me feel old. I remember that song, but I never watched MTV once in my life.

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 07:32 PM (z4WKX)

195 184 Gingy makes me look bad. Posted by: Vendette I don't believe it, but be still my heart anyway.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 07:32 PM (l3vZN)

196 Interestingly, apparently ms luna / lieutenant moreau appeared in a movie called mike hammer
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If only you knew the rest of the story...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:32 PM (aDwsi)

197 One of Canuckistan's most beloved singers was Rita MacNeil. She died in April. To put it frankly, she was obese, but she had pipes. Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:26 PM (GAUeg) all I am saying is I had an image of a hot girl in my mind and now, oh nevermind

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:33 PM (Z9EHQ)

198 Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 11:29 PM (l3vZN) I'd be burning a fire every night if not for the chimney. If we find the money we're going to do something about it. But not for a bit, I got deer camp coming up next weekend. And, in a rare benefit of the no job thing, I get an extra day at the farm!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 12, 2013 07:33 PM (GaqMa)

199

Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 11:31 PM (doBIb)

I almost see the lips. I see that and raise you a cosplay pic that I probably won't get around to posting in a gaming thread

http://bit.ly/HSXya3

Posted by: The Dude at November 12, 2013 07:33 PM (vJdyz)

200 195 184 Gingy makes me look bad. Posted by: Vendette I don't believe it, but be still my heart anyway. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 11:32 PM (l3vZN) --- What the heck am I missing?

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:34 PM (N/cFh)

201 Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 11:31 PM (doBIb) But does she have ho-surance?

Posted by: Thrawn at November 12, 2013 07:34 PM (ZyqBH)

202 It was more in response to: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 11:25 PM but its good to know you're honest Vendette, its what I expect from the 'Ettes. Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 11:29 PM (BeFHp) That's very sweet of you!

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:34 PM (GAUeg)

203 193

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 12, 2013 11:32 PM (DmNpO)

===========================

Whew! Was worried there. Thx

Posted by: NCwoof at November 12, 2013 07:35 PM (aUQgu)

204 I didn't know the U.S. military had the rank of lance corporal.
Congratulations.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 07:36 PM (c7RIo)

205 72 Y-5 LOL!!

Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at November 12, 2013 07:36 PM (yeM7r)

206 Heh, it's funny to call Venezuela a banana republic because Maduro means "ripe" in Spanish.

Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2013 07:36 PM (4BA+Y)

207 >> Is there a particular meal you would "[soak] your sack in"? I might enjoy the scent of a nice beef stew myself.

Flyguy, you do know about the pudding tradition here?

The best ball soak would be in a large bucket full of liberal tears. Very soothing, I suspect.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 07:36 PM (wNF3N)

208 Congrats to your enterprising young lad, EC -- they're clearly seeing some of his leadership qualities.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 07:36 PM (T1005)

209
Lesser Known 80's Songs

Well, that's a Rock Block of ween tunes.

But always nice to be reminded how cute Jane Wiedlin was.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2013 07:36 PM (kdS6q)

210 What the heck am I missing? Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 11:34 PM (N/cFh) 1) I met Jinx at the infamous NoVaMoMee (he's a great guy); 2) I quit playing the piano when I was a teenager; and 3) I have neglected my knitting.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:37 PM (GAUeg)

211 173 One of Canuckistan's most beloved singers was Rita MacNeil. She died in April. To put it frankly, she was obese, but she had pipes. Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:26 PM (GAUeg) I've always thought Cass Elliot would have been fun to hang out with. She was a great singer and had a great sense of humor.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2013 07:37 PM (sdi6R)

212 Yeah, O'Reilly and his insistence that we need to compromise conservatism and support big spending RINO's, look where that got us in 2008 and 2012. How many elections do we have to lose before the moderates get it that democrat light won't win elections. The media will do the same thing to Chris Christie that they did to their darling McCain. They embrace him now, once he gets the nomination they will do one hatchet job after another and portray him as the devil incarnate. They did exactly that to McCain and the dumb bastard still sucks up to the media. Honestly, I think McCain likes being kicked in the teeth.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 07:37 PM (DpI6K)

213 Kim nukes Dennis Rodman for pistachios.
http://youtu.be/gYePFQs2j8U

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 12, 2013 07:37 PM (jUb9+)

214 And now I'm reminded of the Martha Wash/Black Box and C + C Music Factory lawsuit. Martha wasn't credited for her vocals and a model lip synched to her the videos because she didn't present "the right image." Hell, those songs wouldn't have been memorable without her voice.

Posted by: no good deed at November 12, 2013 07:37 PM (k55Fc)

215 Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:34 PM

How I was raised. Superficially misogynistic, deep down trusting to a fault.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:37 PM (BeFHp)

216 looking good for being 100 or even 60

, shatner, kinda lookin' rough http://www.barbaraluna.com/friends1.html

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:37 PM (Z9EHQ)

217 Bingo. I'll take Biden over TFG any day. Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2013 11:26 PM (sdi6R) I think you are the only one that has agreed with me. If it came down to one or the other, I would keep Lindsey Graham over Mitch McConnell any day. Graham is not in Minority Leader & doesnÂ’t sell us out for $ for Kentucky. A least Graham was in the military,itÂ’s too bad he missed days they taught how to be a man. but he doesnÂ’t make deals with Biden & Reid, that screw US!

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2013 07:38 PM (z4WKX)

218 Congrats to your enterprising young lad, EC -- they're clearly seeing some of his leadership qualities.

Thank you all for your kind words.

He's clearly moving up in his life. I hope he can make E-5 or better before he's out.

Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 07:38 PM (doBIb)

219 And I am always ham-handed when it comes to paying a compliment to the ladies. It has been my downfall in life.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 07:38 PM (l3vZN)

220 Also a big fatty with serious pipes and a sense of humor - Jann Arden. She's the reason I became a professional singer.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:38 PM (N/cFh)

221 GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 11:36 PM

But its sooo hard to collect that many, they just taste great when they're fresh.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:39 PM (BeFHp)

222 I didn't know the U.S. military had the rank of lance corporal. Congratulations. Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 11:36 PM (c7RIo) Marine Corps. Equivalents are Private First Class (Army), Seaman (Navy and Coast Guard) and Airman First Class (Air Force).

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:39 PM (GAUeg)

223 I almost see the lips. I see that and raise you a cosplay pic that I probably won't get around to posting in a gaming thread

http://bit.ly/HSXya3

Posted by: The Dude at November 12, 2013 11:33 PM (vJdyz)

Whoa! No spinning round kick???

Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 07:39 PM (doBIb)

224 Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 11:38 PM

I've been told many times that 1.5 drinks is the perfect level for being "Charismatic, but not jerky", but that's personal preference really.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:40 PM (BeFHp)

225 Band saws are much much safer than table saws. Especially for guys who work in shops by themselves. That Nemoy link was interesting ... but I seem to recall reading somewhere that he is a leftist. Anyone know?

Posted by: My Name is Nobody at November 12, 2013 07:40 PM (5Q1ZU)

226 Fairfax County is starting to weigh in on the VA AG race. The donk took the lead by 113 today.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 07:41 PM (l3vZN)

227 Also a big fatty with serious pipes and a sense of humor - Jann Arden. She's the reason I became a professional singer. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 11:38 PM (N/cFh) Every single time I've called Air Miles (Canada) to use my folks' air miles to visit them, "Insensitive" has been playing while I'm on hold.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:41 PM (GAUeg)

228
That Nemoy link was interesting ... but I seem to recall reading somewhere that he is a leftist. Anyone know?

Yes. He's an o-bot.

Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 07:41 PM (doBIb)

229 That Nemoy link was interesting ... but I seem to recall reading somewhere that he is a leftist. Anyone know? deep down he is a romulan

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

230 And I am always ham-handed when it comes to paying a compliment to the ladies. It has been my downfall in life. Posted by: Jinx
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Yeah..., same here. I finally learned not to use 'Nice tits!'...., it never worked very well.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:43 PM (aDwsi)

231 My dad (a sought-after finishing carpenter and cabinet maker) cut off the tips of his three middle fingers from his right hand with a table saw. Ripping plywood, it flew up and he slapped it down. I learned some new words that day (I was about 11). My sister and I picked up the tips and someone got them to the hospital. They weren't able to reattach them successfully. The grafts were poorly done and the tips died.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:43 PM (N/cFh)

232 Posted by: The Dude at November 12, 2013 11:33 PM (vJdyz) So...uhh where do I buy one of those costumes...uhh for a friend.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 12, 2013 07:43 PM (GaqMa)

233

Glanced at the posts below before I go reload some .357. Amusing, I guess, to see the ridiculous affirmative action non-entity in the WH doing poorly in polling.

So what? Even if part of the electorate - thanks to the 2X4 smacking them directly in the face - has an epiphany ("ooh, Obamacare is bad, it's not magic and free like they said! I'm so upset!"), it's still the same doorknob-dumb electorate that would even consider (much less RE-ELECT) this catastrophic embarrassment. I'm talking, as always, not about the "FSA" that so many fixate on, but the "educated" populace, most of which is doorknob-dumb when it comes to politics and public policy, knows only what the utterly collapsed media lets them know, and "thinks" mostly what the politicized and cretinized popular culture (incl. "elite") lets them think.

No longer a serious country. Not even close. People really think that there will be significant improvement from the voting booth, any time soon?

Rhetorical question, obviously.

Posted by: non-purist at November 12, 2013 07:44 PM (afQnV)

234 I reall ydo not want to see ANY singers or their videos. male, female, old, young , attractive, fugly. I also do not have any desire to know what any of 'em think about anythang. EVER. you're the garbage man pick up the garbage / you're the singer sing. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Z9EHQ) I can see that. You get a picture in your head of a song. Seeing the video or performers can destroy the way you visualized it and mess up its meaning for you.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 07:45 PM (DpI6K)

235 File sharing way down. Had to abandon Windows altogether and start learning Gimp. Too many virii.

Posted by: UWP at November 12, 2013 07:45 PM (fdXMW)

236 Every single time I've called Air Miles (Canada) to use my folks' air miles to visit them, "Insensitive" has been playing while I'm on hold. Posted by: Vendette our pr firm had captain and tenile's love will keep us together on their phones for a month tennille. speaking of which, ya ever listen to the lyrics on that pos? absolutely no understanding, not even passing acquaintance, with the concept of love. oh yeah, you are from canadiastan?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:46 PM (Z9EHQ)

237 Leonard Nimoy is one accomplished dude. Who knew? Not me. Thanks for the exellent ONT.

Posted by: MTF at November 12, 2013 07:46 PM (qCtp4)

238 227 Every single time I've called Air Miles (Canada) to use my folks' air miles to visit them, "Insensitive" has been playing while I'm on hold. Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:41 PM (GAUeg) --- Well. I guess you should have known.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:46 PM (N/cFh)

239 Marine Corps. Equivalents are Private First Class (Army), Seaman (Navy and Coast Guard) and Airman First Class (Air Force). Posted by: Vendette
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Which reminds me, the Coasties had a birthday in August, it went largely unnoticed. They've been at it for a while..., 223 years, I think?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:46 PM (aDwsi)

240 Joann Linville - Romulan Commander from The Enterprise Incident.

France Nuyen - Elaan of Troyius.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 12, 2013 07:47 PM (jUb9+)

241

Oh, I also picked up my first handgun today, got a police trade in Glock 19 Gen-3 with 2 extra clips and a range bag for under $450, the store was running a special and threw in glasses, bore light, bore cleaning agent, and a deer drag. Now I just need to find some range time for me and Mrs. Crank to play with our new toys if we can ever get a free day without some sort of drama or medical emergency.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 12, 2013 07:47 PM (b2cFu)

242 oh yeah, you are from canadiastan? Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 11:46 PM (Z9EHQ) I am, as is Gingy. We are both Albertans transplanted to the mid-Atlantic (she's in MD and I'm in VA).

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:47 PM (GAUeg)

243 I can see that. You get a picture in your head of a song. Seeing the video or performers can destroy the way you visualized it and mess up its meaning for you. Posted by: nerdygirl yes, nevermind what happens when I actually understand all the lyrics

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:47 PM (Z9EHQ)

244 I heard the term "Reproductive Justice" the other day. I had to look it up. I should have known better really. Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 11:25 PM (BeFHp) Let me guess. FREE ABORTIONS ON DEMAND, NO APOLOGIES! These signs are being carried at pro-choice rallies. This is what they're going for. Screw anybody and everybody and hand the taxpayers the bill for killing the fetuses.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 07:47 PM (DpI6K)

245

Just finished "The Last Centurion" by John Ringo. What a great read.

( learned of it here, at the book thread) Looked into his other books, nothing even close to similar.

Too bad, would have bought anything in the style of TLC

Posted by: seamrog at November 12, 2013 07:48 PM (9oQs0)

246 The re-boot JJ Abrams Star Trek universe Spock is an O-bot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 12, 2013 07:48 PM (jUb9+)

247 Well. I guess you should have known. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 11:46 PM (N/cFh) Good point.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:48 PM (GAUeg)

248 And what "Reproductive Justice " does NOT mean is "Pay the costs of your own behavior."

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 07:48 PM (DpI6K)

249 our pr firm had captain and tenile's love will keep us together on their phones for a month tennille. speaking of which, ya ever listen to the lyrics on that pos? absolutely no understanding, not even passing acquaintance, with the concept of love.
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I can imagine that playing endlessly, occasionally interrupted by "Your call is important to us.."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:48 PM (aDwsi)

250 I am, as is Gingy. We are both Albertans transplanted to the mid-Atlantic (she's in MD and I'm in VA).

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:47 PM (GAUeg)

Me too!

Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 07:48 PM (doBIb)

251 Me too! Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 11:48 PM (doBIb) Hometown. Now.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:49 PM (GAUeg)

252 Gingy, my dad lost the tips of his index and middle finger on his right hand in a snatch-block. The nerve endings went too. He would entertain us as kids by picking hot dogs off the grill with them instead of tongs. When my brothers were older, he would point those fingers at them and say, "Let this be a lesson to you. Snatch is dangerous if you don't respect it."

Posted by: no good deed at November 12, 2013 07:49 PM (k55Fc)

253 I should make mention that I despise music videos. very frequently the worst thing for a song, yes even worse than knowing the actual lyrics, is seeng the fat slob singing.... : yankeefifth :: looks at my music videos :: :: decides on new diet & organizing habits ::

Posted by: mindful webworker - merely a little overweight & untidy at November 12, 2013 07:50 PM (YLiN/)

254 Hometown. Now.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:49 PM (GAUeg)

The Big Smoke.

T.O.

Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 07:50 PM (doBIb)

255 I am, as is Gingy. We are both Albertans transplanted to the mid-Atlantic (she's in MD and I'm in VA). Posted by: Vendette intersting. had no idea. never been to alberta, only thunder bay and toronto.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:50 PM (Z9EHQ)

256 Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 11:47 PM (DpI6K) Yeah, odd that "reproductive justice" is actually contra-reproduction. Oh the stories I have about the craziness.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 12, 2013 07:51 PM (GaqMa)

257 T.O. Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 11:50 PM (doBIb) You poor thing.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:51 PM (GAUeg)

258 Oh, I also picked up my first handgun today, got a police trade in Glock 19 Gen-3 with 2 extra clips and a range bag for under $450, the store was running a special and threw in glasses, bore light, bore cleaning agent, and a deer drag. Now I just need to find some range time for me and Mrs. Crank to play with our new toys if we can ever get a free day without some sort of drama or medical emergency. Posted by: Conservative Crank
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I would have sprung for that deal too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:51 PM (aDwsi)

259 Y5, you can't tell from our accents?

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:51 PM (N/cFh)

260 I kinda like music vids where some hottie is shaking her caboose all the rest meh Warren Miller type films with snowboarder/surfers/skiiers doing their thing with music is ok also supose

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 07:52 PM (TcHA2)

261 Marine Corps.
Ah, I see. One stripe but with some red filling in the bottom of the ^ stripe.

Ours used to be plain (no stripe) for a private and a single stripe for a lance corporal (and two for a full corporal etc.) but I don't know if that's the case today.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 07:52 PM (c7RIo)

262 As I pointed out earlier, we had flurries today, and the last I looked, it was 24 deg., that's western NC. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 11:29 PM (aDwsi) Heh. It does my heart good to know that N.C. weather is as shitty as Michigan's. Misery loves company.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 07:52 PM (DpI6K)

263 257 T.O. Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 11:50 PM (doBIb) You poor thing. Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:51 PM (GAUeg) -- Now, now.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:52 PM (N/cFh)

264 I love this. Dog wants a kitty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI4yoXyb1_M

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 12, 2013 07:53 PM (DmNpO)

265 You poor thing.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:51 PM (GAUeg)

It's a fun town.

Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 07:53 PM (doBIb)

266 I missed the thread earlier, but I took a shot at remaking one of those brosurance ads: https://twitter.com/weirddave0/status/400378708743049217

Posted by: Weirddave at November 12, 2013 07:53 PM (N/cFh)

267 Now, now. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 11:52 PM (N/cFh) At least Calgary has Peter's Drive-in.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:53 PM (GAUeg)

268 Y5, you can't tell from our accents? Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at N a quick google search had revealed neither of you ever use the words "about / aboot" or "hoser" and neither of you have ever mentioned finding a mouse in a bottle.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:54 PM (Z9EHQ)

269 267 Now, now. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 11:52 PM (N/cFh) At least Calgary has Peter's Drive-in. Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:53 PM (GAUeg) --- Yes. Oh, my, yes.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:54 PM (N/cFh)

270 Lesser Known 80's Songs Strange finding "Shattered Dreams" on there. I always liked that tune a lot. Some of the others bring back memories of my cruising days: Heart and Soul (Huey Lewis), West End Girls (Pet Shop Boys), Electric Blue (Icehouse), and a couple others... Good times.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 12, 2013 07:54 PM (VVsZ2)

271 Mr. Fisk: [Speaking to the other guests after seeing Oliver urinating on the stove] A family tiff seems to be developing. I don't know if we should leave, but I definitely advise skipping the ~~fish~~ lobster course.

Updated for these moar moderner times.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 07:55 PM (wNF3N)

272 Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 11:54 PM (N/cFh) I got drunk in Penction, which is BC I think, not Alberta. very scenic

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 07:55 PM (TcHA2)

273 a quick google search had revealed neither of you ever use the words "about / aboot" or "hoser" and neither of you have ever mentioned finding a mouse in a bottle. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 11:54 PM (Z9EHQ) I do say "eh" if you meet me in person.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:55 PM (GAUeg)

274 I do say "eh" if you meet me in person.

Heh...

Posted by: EC at November 12, 2013 07:56 PM (doBIb)

275 Alberta is to Toronto as Texas is to NYC.

There's a house in the little town near me with a large yard sign that proudly proclaims "rednecks live here".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2013 07:56 PM (8Fl6F)

276 I got drunk in Penction, which is BC I think, not Alberta. very scenic Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 11:55 PM (TcHA2) Penticton, BC.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:56 PM (GAUeg)

277 A buddy sawed most of the way through one little finger using a table saw. Off to the hospital. Surgeon says, "You'll never be able to use that finger again. I can attach it, but it will never move, or I can just remove it."

My friend thinks for a moment..., says, "Let me get this straight, if I go with the re-attachment, don't I always have the amputate option later?" "yup", says the Doc.

So, he has had a fixed, slightly curved little finger ever since.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:56 PM (aDwsi)

278 266 WD That's GREAT!

Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at November 12, 2013 07:56 PM (yeM7r)

279 Senator Jon Tester (D-MT) has only a thumb and pinky finger on one hand due to a farming accident.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 07:57 PM (GAUeg)

280 and another thing, fine, if you google up an' read lyrics for "never say never" lyrics it is not impossible to see what it is about, especially if someone has given you an effin clue. who writes a pop song about that so teens can listen to it as 80mph on a back road with the windows down?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 07:58 PM (Z9EHQ)

281 ...got a police trade in Glock 19 Gen-3 with 2 extra clips.... how does it look? lots of holster wear. They had some police trade in's (don't remember the model) with NOPD, New Orleans, on the grip wish I had one of those now

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 07:58 PM (TcHA2)

282 nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 11:47 PM

I clicked the Wikipedia entry, figuring I'd get the worst of the worst out of the way. The lesson I took from it was that "Justice" involved the idea that women should not be hampered by the fact that they the ability to and responsibility of creating life inside of themselves. That is a burden and its the privilege of monsters like Kermit Gosnell of relieve them of that. Its... disappointing.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 07:59 PM (BeFHp)

283 Heh. It does my heart good to know that N.C. weather is as shitty as Michigan's.
Misery loves company. Posted by: nerdygirl
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Not only that, we have Kay Hagan too.

May be some snow in upstate SC tonight also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 07:59 PM (aDwsi)

284 279 Senator Jon Tester (D-MT) has only a thumb and pinky finger on one hand due to a farming accident. Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:57 PM (GAUeg) --- My dad's Uncle Earl had one arm near torn off in a grain augur.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 07:59 PM (N/cFh)

285 Senator Jon Tester (D-MT) has only a thumb and pinky finger on one hand due to a farming accident.
A snatch accident with Pelosi?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 08:00 PM (c7RIo)

286 Oh, I also picked up my first handgun today, got a police trade in Glock 19 Gen-3 with 2 extra clips and a range bag for under $450, the store was running a special and threw in glasses, bore light, bore cleaning agent, and a deer drag. Now I just need to find some range time for me and Mrs. Crank to play with our new toys if we can ever get a free day without some sort of drama or medical emergency. Posted by: Conservative Crank --------------- I would have sprung for that deal too. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 11:51 PM I would have bought two...

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2013 08:00 PM (JMmQ9)

287 That is a burden and its the privilege of monsters like Kermit Gosnell of relieve them of that. Its... disappointing.
Posted by: Flyguy
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Oh..., so you think that they should be punished by having a baby?

Posted by: Barky at November 12, 2013 08:00 PM (aDwsi)

288 ot a police trade in Glock 19 Gen-3 with 2 extra clips.... how does it look? lots of holster wear. They had some police trade in's (don't remember the model) with NOPD, New Orleans, on the grip wish I had one of those now Posted by: really that guy NOPD trade in? I would have it run by the fbi to see if any bodies are on the thing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 08:01 PM (Z9EHQ)

289 I still have a lot of trim work to do at the cottage and this talk of amputations is giving me the willies!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 08:01 PM (l3vZN)

290 OK, I'm out tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2013 08:01 PM (JMmQ9)

291 Well horde i'm out. Until tomorrow.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 12, 2013 08:02 PM (GaqMa)

292 Maybe you should just go by "the Cat" until you finish with the trim work.

Posted by: no good deed at November 12, 2013 08:02 PM (k55Fc)

293 Farm machinery is dangerous shit.
PTO shafts
Silo equipment
Tractor rollovers

Hell, the list is endless

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:03 PM (aDwsi)

294 and so it begins. someone bar the door, quick.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 08:03 PM (Z9EHQ)

295 Dammit. Who pierced their scrotum on the rug again This is why we don't bring in exchange students.

Posted by: RWC at November 12, 2013 08:03 PM (LpbKr)

296 I have a Glock 34, but the last time I used it I had a hard time using the slide and magazine releases. I'm a southpaw and have an old baseball injury on the thumb so don't have as much strength there as I used to.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 08:03 PM (l3vZN)

297 G'Night Horde. I'll probably be back to lurking after the alcohol wears off but its been fun.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 12, 2013 08:03 PM (BeFHp)

298 Goodnight, tsrblke and flyguy!

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:04 PM (GAUeg)

299 if I ever own a bar I will have three big screen televisions over the bar. two for sports and one for this here thread.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 08:05 PM (Z9EHQ)

300 Maybe you should just go by "the Cat" until you finish with the trim work. That's the funniest thing I've heard all day! Thanks.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 08:05 PM (l3vZN)

301 NOPD trade in? I would have it run by the fbi to see if any bodies are on the thing. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 13, 2013 12:01 AM (Z9EHQ) they were through a FFL would be cool to have now

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 08:05 PM (TcHA2)

302 I have to go too.
First night for the quilt on the bed..., I'm betting the cat shows up too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:05 PM (aDwsi)

303 wish we could nuke the north west coast

Posted by: The Dude at November 12, 2013 08:05 PM (vJdyz)

304 25 degrees here in the mountains of Ky. Had wet snow this morning. Gingy saw your knitting on twitter it's beautiful. Wish I could sing. Oh well not everyone can be a nurse.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman(frequent lurker sometimes poster) at November 12, 2013 08:06 PM (KuZ6A)

305 I have to go too. First night for the quilt on the bed..., I'm betting the cat shows up too. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 13, 2013 12:05 AM (aDwsi) I'm sure your cat will let it be known that he/she/it owns the quilt.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:06 PM (GAUeg)

306 Growing up in ND, and going to UND, I speak fluent Canadian. Gitch Gotch Serviette Davenport Toque

Posted by: Thunderb at November 12, 2013 08:07 PM (zOTsN)

307 Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 13, 2013 12:05 AM (aDwsi) Quilt+Cat Claws Just tell the police it's your blood.. Because it will be.

Posted by: RWC at November 12, 2013 08:07 PM (LpbKr)

308 Is marine lance corporal really the equivalent of army PFC? Is it a time based thing, etc for a marine, or is it a duty/command type rank? Am used to the old system of LC being promoted to fill 2ic in a squad/section. Is it like that in the corps, or like army PFC?

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 08:07 PM (9gNQd)

309 I'm a southpaw and have an old baseball injury on the thumb so don't have as much strength there as I used to. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 13, 2013 12:03 AM (l3vZN) take a look at a Springfield XD or XDM or a S&W M&P, both are, or can be made ambidexterous

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 08:07 PM (TcHA2)

310 wish we could nuke the north west coast
Posted by: The Dude
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I think we would have spirit one or tow morns out first, an easy job.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:08 PM (aDwsi)

311 Not really "obscure" but seemingly forgotten 80's tune:

The Members -- Working Girl

http://youtu.be/86hQLx1vrgo

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 08:08 PM (m0h0I)

312 25 degrees here in the mountains of Ky. Had wet snow this morning. Gingy saw your knitting on twitter it's beautiful. Wish I could sing. Oh well not everyone can be a nurse. Posted by: Fourth Horseman(frequent lurker sometimes poster) at November 13, 2013 12:06 AM (KuZ6A) Hello! Please post more often!

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:08 PM (GAUeg)

313 'morns'?

morons

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:08 PM (aDwsi)

314 And the Loonie

Posted by: Thunderb at November 12, 2013 08:08 PM (zOTsN)

315
Senator Jon Tester (D-MT) has only a thumb and pinky finger on one hand due to a farming accident.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 11:57 PM (GAUeg)

Phffffffft! Pansy.

Boris Yeltsin lost his left thumb and index finger disassembling frag grenades. That he'd stolen from a Red Army ammo depot. While he was in high school.

'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2013 08:09 PM (MBqvE)

316 I wouldn't mention "willies" then either, J the Cat.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 08:09 PM (c7RIo)

317 Is marine lance corporal really the equivalent of army PFC? Is it a time based thing, etc for a marine, or is it a duty/command type rank? Am used to the old system of LC being promoted to fill 2ic in a squad/section. Is it like that in the corps, or like army PFC? Posted by: otho at November 13, 2013 12:07 AM (9gNQd) I got it from here: http://www.defense.gov/about/insignias/enlisted.aspx

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:10 PM (GAUeg)

318 Weirddave - funny. I was working on some Brosurance parody. Pic search terms fail, jackass, injury.... Tried to go to doyougotinsurance and the server was overloaded. MBWAHAHAH! (Fail. Jackass. injury....) Next... DoYousGotsLitracy.com

Posted by: mindful webworker - doyougotwebworks? at November 12, 2013 08:10 PM (izPgb)

319 Just tell the police it's your blood..

Because it will be. Posted by: RWC
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No problem with that. It's the kneading that drives me up the wall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:10 PM (aDwsi)

320 And the Loonie Posted by: Thunderb at November 13, 2013 12:08 AM (zOTsN) There's the Toonie as well! (The two-dollar coin)

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:11 PM (GAUeg)

321 Jamba Juice is going kiosk self serve

When do the machines demand a "living wage"

http://tinyurl.com/nzk8x6p

Posted by: kbdabear at November 12, 2013 08:11 PM (aTXUx)

322 I think we would have spirit one or tow morns out first, an easy job.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 13, 2013 12:08 AM (aDwsi)

fuck that shit, just nuke it and build Mega-City style walls along the coast

Posted by: The Dude at November 12, 2013 08:11 PM (vJdyz)

323 Geebus, Meghyn Kelley is making Carville squirm like a middle schooler. Is she actually tough or are the Dems that fucked.

Posted by: RWC at November 12, 2013 08:12 PM (LpbKr)

324 Very good, Thunderb.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 08:12 PM (c7RIo)

325 Good night all. I enjoyed the evening.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 08:12 PM (l3vZN)

326 Goodnight, J the Cat.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2013 08:13 PM (c7RIo)

327 i stumbled on that table saw video a few months back when i was looking to buy one. I need a table saw for my current renovation project, but there is not a lot available here in japan where i live.
They have some really shitty ones, but none with the riving knife, only the old style safety guard that you have to remove to do anything useful.
So right now i am seeing if i can get by without. I used an old crafstman for years with no safety features, but when i started looking i kept seeing comments by people that lost fingers and now swear by the electronic braking saws. It made me think twice and think i at least want the riving knife.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 12, 2013 08:13 PM (LWu6U)

328 Boris Yeltsin lost his left thumb and index finger disassembling frag grenades. That he'd stolen from a Red Army ammo depot. While he was in high school.

'sup jackwagons
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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Presumably he just set off a fuse.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:13 PM (aDwsi)

329 259 Y5, you can't tell from our accents?

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 11:51 PM (N/cFh)

I thought you were supposed to append "-- eh?" to everything you said.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 08:14 PM (T1005)

330 I can't watch that table saw video. I almost lost a finger in a freak accident with a jointer, and another guitar builder friend of mine split his thumb into a V shape a few months ago by reaching over a table saw blade, which he should have known is a major no no. I get the willies just thinking about power tool fuck ups.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 08:14 PM (FMbng)

331 No problem with that. It's the kneading that drives me up the wall. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 13, 2013 12:10 AM (aDwsi) No problem with that for me. Mine was staring at me at 4am while curled on my chest...and then 'thwap.' Why the hell did you hit me!

Posted by: RWC at November 12, 2013 08:14 PM (LpbKr)

332 I thought you were supposed to append "-- eh?" to everything you said. Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2013 12:14 AM (T1005) As I mentioned earlier, meet us in person and we'll say "eh" to your heart's content.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:15 PM (GAUeg)

333 I am not really a megyn kelly fan but she is on a mission. If I was not sure obama was gay, and a bottom, I would swear he had cheated on her.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 08:15 PM (Z9EHQ)

334 Sarah Kliff (WaPo) who said Gosnell was just a local crime story has an IAMA going on reddit about how terrible the Healthcare rollout thing is

Posted by: Zakn at November 12, 2013 08:15 PM (Bvf82)

335 nuke the north EAST coast? or the north WEST coast? I think there is a diffrence

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 08:16 PM (TcHA2)

336 No problem with that for me. Mine was staring at me at 4am while curled on my chest...and then 'thwap.'

Why the hell did you hit me! Posted by: RWC
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Checking to see if you were still alive. Otherwise, chow time!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:16 PM (aDwsi)

337 Not the "eh" so much But listen for double vowels like in roof and roots

Posted by: Thunderb at November 12, 2013 08:16 PM (zOTsN)

338 Vendette thanks I'll try but I so enjoy reading the posts and comments that I often forget to join in. I sometimes post in the daytime threads. I had read the posts here for years but since there is no comment count like on other sites I never read the comments til Andrew Breitbart mentioned them I have been hooked ever since. So a thank you to you all.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman(frequent lurker sometimes poster) at November 12, 2013 08:17 PM (KuZ6A)

339 "I clicked the Wikipedia entry, figuring I'd get the worst of the worst out of the way. The lesson I took from it was that "Justice" involved the idea that women should not be hampered by the fact that they the ability to and responsibility of creating life inside of themselves." There is a solution to that; don't screw. Then again, liberals have the emotional development of spoiled children. Meaning that they think they should be able to do whatever they want without having to accept the consequences. That puts them at the level of 5 year olds.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 08:17 PM (DpI6K)

340 I am not really a megyn kelly fan but she is on a mission. If I was not sure obama was gay, and a bottom, I would swear he had cheated on her. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 13, 2013 12:15 AM (Z9EHQ) she has been on fire for several weeks on this. Has beat Ted Baxter a few times also I think

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 08:17 PM (TcHA2)

341 332 I thought you were supposed to append "-- eh?" to everything you said. Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2013 12:14 AM (T1005) As I mentioned earlier, meet us in person and we'll say "eh" to your heart's content. Posted by: Vendette at November 13, 2013 12:15 AM (GAUeg) --- Double-gunned by Albertans.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 08:18 PM (N/cFh)

342 Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2013 12:11 AM (aTXUx) This looks more like way to expand footprint rather than replace workers. Although, I know libtards who think automation will result in a guaranteed income and a socialist paradise. I'm not a luddite, bit I Lol'd at that.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 12, 2013 08:18 PM (GaqMa)

343 I get the willies just thinking about power tool fuck ups.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads
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Etched into my brain is the shop-safety film from long ago that showed a hank of hair, with attached scalp bits wrapped around a workpiece on a metal lathe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:18 PM (aDwsi)

344 Not the "eh" so much But listen for double vowels like in roof and roots Posted by: Thunderb at November 13, 2013 12:16 AM (zOTsN) Having lived in the States long enough, I can pick out a Canadian in two sentences or less. They claim not to have accents, but they do. I hope you're doing well, thunderb!

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:18 PM (GAUeg)

345 Speaking of privates and corporals. I don't think "Spock" is a sergeant. That looks like the insignia for a T-4 or T-5, a kind of corporal we had before "Specialist" was invented. My dad was a T-5 truck driver (LeHavre to Metz, with a few detours).

I can still remember how disappointed my sixties self was when I watched some summer fill-in music show to see the "premiere" of Nimoy singing about the Hobbit. I expected some Heavy Business, and got...well, you saw it. Maybe Robbie Fulks will do a Leonard Nimoy vs Leonard Cohen night sometime.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 12, 2013 08:19 PM (xq1UY)

346 333 I am not really a megyn kelly fan but she is on a mission. If I was not sure obama was gay, and a bottom, I would swear he had cheated on her. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 13, 2013 12:15 AM (Z9EHQ) From what I have seen so far she puts Hannity and the rest to shame. (hannity and the rest in their current 'get along' format.)

Posted by: RWC at November 12, 2013 08:19 PM (LpbKr)

347 Not only that, we have Kay Hagan too. May be some snow in upstate SC tonight also. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 11:59 PM (aDwsi) Yeah, well we have Deb Stabenow. So there.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 08:20 PM (DpI6K)

348 I have a serious question for military morons from the horde, ex or current guys.
Something truly worries me about the modern military that I'm not sure is a real problem or not. It just seems like the greater the technology, the more oversight and info we have of the battlefield, and the greater connections, in a way we're producing poorer warriors.
What I mean is this: any major decision has to be okayed by an eye on the sky. Drone pilots don't decide to shoot any targets, no matter what the opportunity is. Pilots have to get an okay to engage anything. Because the communications are so good and the command post knows so well what is going on everywhere, they control the soldiers at the point of the spear to a degree greater than ever before.
So that means the anal by the book officer is in charge, not the non coms and soldiers actually in the field. The decisions are made more and more by politics and people not directly at stake, not the people out there taking fire.
And that strikes me as... very bad. Not just bad for the battlefield and overall strategy, but for the lessons learned in terms of independence and facing the hard decisions in fire that bring great leaders back home.
Am I just totally off base here or is there something to my concerns?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2013 08:20 PM (zfY+H)

349 Double-gunned by Albertans. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 13, 2013 12:18 AM (N/cFh) Plus we're charming and attractive.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:20 PM (GAUeg)

350 so, I stumbled across this while watchin 80s videos different than I thought it would be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na20W6qfpPA

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 08:20 PM (Z9EHQ)

351 Liberals believe there should be no consequences or repercussions for anything they do. Hence their specialness. I don't understand that thought process at all. It certainly doesn't take into account reality.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman(frequent lurker sometimes poster) at November 12, 2013 08:20 PM (KuZ6A)

352 Oh, yeah. We also have Conyers AND his corrupt wife who's been released from the big house.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 08:21 PM (DpI6K)

353 Kelly - boobs/legs
Hannity - hair

No contest.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:21 PM (aDwsi)

354 nuke the north EAST coast?

or

the north WEST coast?

I think there is a diffrence

Posted by: really that guy at November 13, 2013 12:16 AM (TcHA2)

East, I'm on my 8th drink tonight vOv

Posted by: The Dude at November 12, 2013 08:21 PM (vJdyz)

355 Am I just totally off base here or is there something to my concerns? Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 13, 2013 12:20 AM (zfY+H) the bigest problem is lawyers are now in the decision making process

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 08:22 PM (TcHA2)

356 So, I got myself a cheap electric guitar (a Dean Playmate) and a cheap Behringer amp to learn on until I can get something a little more upscale. Today, I went to my first lesson in hopes of getting someone to teach me a little theory. What I ended up getting was thirty minutes of a guy extolling the virtues of barre chords (which I already know), neck diagrams of pentatonic scales (which I also already know).

So, I stopped and bought a copy of Guitar Theory for Dummies on the way home. I'm going to take another couple of lessons from the guy I'm currently signed up with, and if he doesn't challenge me a little more, I'm moving on.

The strange thing is, the guy never once asked me to play anything for him to see if I knew anything. He pretty much sat there with his guitar showing me stuff, and never asked me to do anything. You'd think it'd be somewhat useful to gauge someone's ability by actually listening to them.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 08:22 PM (m0h0I)

357 Has beat Ted Baxter a few times also I think

Posted by: really that guy at November 13, 2013 12:17 AM (TcHA2)

Is "beat Ted Baxter" code for something?

Posted by: Ian Galt at November 12, 2013 08:23 PM (QdOC1)

358 So, who here actually sent mcrino a email asking him to run for potus again?

Posted by: GMB at November 12, 2013 08:23 PM (nkPV9)

359 Yeah, well we have Deb Stabenow. So there.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2013 12:20 AM (DpI6K)

Don't forget that fool Carl Levin.

At least we have The Nerd in office instead of Jenny....

Posted by: Ian Galt at November 12, 2013 08:24 PM (QdOC1)

360 343 I get the willies just thinking about power tool fuck ups.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads
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Etched into my brain is the shop-safety film from long ago that showed a hank of hair, with attached scalp bits wrapped around a workpiece on a metal lathe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 13, 2013 12:18 AM (aDwsi)

That reminds me, I need to get a haircut tomorrow.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 08:24 PM (T1005)

361 Yeah, well we have Deb Stabenow. So there. Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2013 12:20 AM (DpI6K) Did you ever see when she matched a poster on the Senate floor? She was complaining about the Bush Administration's incompetence and had a sign to that effect, but the problem was her outfit matched the background color of the sign. Not good. http://tinyurl.com/l78u7wr

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:24 PM (GAUeg)

362 Is "beat Ted Baxter" code for something? Posted by: Ian Galt at November 13, 2013 12:23 AM (QdOC1) Rush refers to O'Reilly as 'Ted Baxter' "beat" is poor word selection for -gotten better ratings than

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 08:25 PM (TcHA2)

363 Posted by: Zakn at November 13, 2013 12:15 AM (Bvf82) Is she saying bad things? Earlier it was still mostly cheer leading and links to Ezra Klein articles that frankly had no bias in fact.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 12, 2013 08:25 PM (GaqMa)

364 349 Plus we're charming and attractive. Posted by: Vendette at November 13, 2013 12:20 AM (GAUeg) --- He doesn't stand a chance.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 08:25 PM (N/cFh)

365 Yes War by lawyer is a big mistake And I was a JAG

Posted by: Thunderb at November 12, 2013 08:25 PM (zOTsN)

366 So, who here actually sent mcrino a email asking him to run for potus again?

We did! Have to get rid of that dead wood somehow.

Posted by: 99 members of the US Senate at November 12, 2013 08:26 PM (JawqV)

367

Posted by: Ian Galt at November 13, 2013 12:23 AM (QdOC1)

only Baxters I know is a fly and a trip hop group from the late 90's

Posted by: The Dude at November 12, 2013 08:26 PM (vJdyz)

368 Farm machinery is dangerous shit.
PTO shafts
Silo equipment
Tractor rollovers

Hell, the list is endless

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 13, 2013 12:03 AM (aDwsi)

No shit, Mike. Lost a co-worker, a drilling engineer I'd worked with for several years. He lost his life after getting tangled up in a PTO shaft. Ironically, one of the last times I spoke to him, he said he was going to quit the oil patch, because it was bound to give him a heart attack, and go back to farming.

RIP, Lyle.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2013 08:26 PM (8Fl6F)

369 281...got a police trade in Glock 19 Gen-3 with 2 extra clips....

how does it look? lots of holster wear.

They had some police trade in's (don't remember the model) with NOPD, New Orleans, on the grip wish I had one of those now

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 11:58 PM (TcHA2)

They had a ton of pieces, mostly G-19s. They had Gen 1 and Gen 2 models going for $100 less, but I wanted the thumb groove and better grip. Some of the grips were in bad shape, but the dealer behind the counter and I looked at several and took the best looking of the bunch. I was sorely tempted to get a new G-22 or -23 in OD, but it would have been a couple hundred more, and the .40 ammo is pricier. I'm hoping to use this piece to build proficiency and possibly a winter carry as well, will need to look into a subcompact or a single stack for summer carry most likely.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 12, 2013 08:26 PM (b2cFu)

370 Etched into my brain is the shop-safety film from long ago that showed a hank of hair, with attached scalp bits wrapped around a workpiece on a metal lathe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 13, 2013 12:18 AM (aDwsi)

Oh that sucks. I still have really long hair, and I always watch around power tools. I have had a few random hairs get sucked into the cooling fan on electric drills every so often, which is more of annoyance, but its a constant reminder. People ask why I never had a beard, and I'll tell them because sure as shit I'll eventually end up setting it on fire or something stupid..

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 08:27 PM (FMbng)

371 I have refrained from comment regarding Canadian women, but the topic has assumed a significant presence, so...

I spent a portion of my squandered youth north of the border. Very special days they were. I consistently found the Canadian girls to be..., well..., heartbreakingly sweet and friendly. If I am lucky, when I grow old, my only memories will be from the time that I spent up there. Never had a bad day, and had many exceptional days. Great, great times. That is all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:28 PM (aDwsi)

372 Don't forget that fool Carl Levin.At least we have The Nerd in office instead of Jenny.... Posted by: Ian Galt at November 13, 2013 12:24 AM (QdOC1) Carl and Sander Levin have combovers for the ages.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:28 PM (GAUeg)

373

Hey Walt!

I'm no musician, but I'd say he has to see (or hear) what you can do to judge what to teach you. If this doesn't change radically by the end of the next lesson, seek another teacher.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 12, 2013 08:28 PM (b2cFu)

374 It just seems with how President Obama is stripping out basically all the brass he doesn't like and replacing them with more ... shall we say, compliant... members of our military, the problem of a top-down anal control freak officer's fantasy of how to run battles is going to be more and more of a problem.
Its just weird to me how when the left gets control of the military they try to fill it with guys that were always the villain in M*A*S*H. The guys for whom their career and following a book mattered more than their men. Guys like John Kerry who would have been the guy Hawkeye chewed out at the end of an episode.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2013 08:28 PM (zfY+H)

375 "We did! "

The stonecutters song anyone?

Who asked mcrino to run for the senate?

We Did!! We did!!!

Posted by: GMB at November 12, 2013 08:29 PM (nkPV9)

376 Rush refers to O'Reilly as 'Ted Baxter'

"beat" is poor word selection for -gotten better ratings than

Posted by: really that guy at November 13, 2013 12:25 AM (TcHA2)

I didn't know that. Thanks.

The combination of hot Megyn Kelly, beat Ted Baxter, and my typical male mind led me down a certain path...

Posted by: Ian Galt at November 12, 2013 08:29 PM (QdOC1)

377 358 So, who here actually sent mcrino a email asking him to run for potus again? Posted by: GMB at November 13, 2013 12:23 AM (nkPV9) Sorry. Tequila with roofies and coke makes me do dumb things. But at least I don't remember it!

Posted by: RWC at November 12, 2013 08:29 PM (afCxM)

378 This looks more like way to expand footprint rather than replace workers.

Although, I know libtards who think automation will result in a guaranteed income and a socialist paradise.
I'm not a luddite, bit I Lol'd at that. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 13, 2013 12:18 AM

Jamba Juice has been sliding for several quarters and they have to try new things

Fast food automation and self serve is already technically available, it's only a matter of cost of technology vs cost of labor when it comes online

Anyone who thinks that people will prefer "human servers" to machines usually eat at fancy restaurants anyway

Posted by: kbdabear at November 12, 2013 08:30 PM (aTXUx)

379 I'll eventually end up setting it on fire or something stupid..
Posted by: Berserker
----------------

Yeah. I know a welder who did that..., while straddling a beam on a 10 story building. Apparently it was pretty funny to watch, according to his friends.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:30 PM (aDwsi)

380 I spent a portion of my squandered youth north of the border. Very special days they were. I consistently found the Canadian girls to be..., well..., heartbreakingly sweet and friendly. If I am lucky, when I grow old, my only memories will be from the time that I spent up there. Never had a bad day, and had many exceptional days. Great, great times. That is all. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 13, 2013 12:28 AM (aDwsi) We are heartbreakingly sweet and friendly. Heck, I've been told I'm too nice to be a Republican. {{{{Hammer}}}}

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:30 PM (GAUeg)

381 Sorry. Tequila with roofies and coke makes me do dumb things.

Like run for mayor of Toronto?

Posted by: no good deed at November 12, 2013 08:31 PM (k55Fc)

382 That's it . I'm out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 12, 2013 08:31 PM (aDwsi)

383 So, I got myself a cheap electric guitar (a Dean Playmate) and a cheap Behringer amp to learn on until I can get something a little more upscale. Today, I went to my first lesson in hopes of getting someone to teach me a little theory. What I ended up getting was thirty minutes of a guy extolling the virtues of barre chords (which I already know), neck diagrams of pentatonic scales (which I also already know).

So, I stopped and bought a copy of Guitar Theory for Dummies on the way home. I'm going to take another couple of lessons from the guy I'm currently signed up with, and if he doesn't challenge me a little more, I'm moving on.

The strange thing is, the guy never once asked me to play anything for him to see if I knew anything. He pretty much sat there with his guitar showing me stuff, and never asked me to do anything. You'd think it'd be somewhat useful to gauge someone's ability by actually listening to them.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 12:22 AM (m0h0I)

Finding a good teacher is rough, but what exactly ARE you taking lessons for if you know scales and chords? Is it for theory? Is it to actually learn how to play songs?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 08:33 PM (FMbng)

384 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 13, 2013 12:28 AM (zfY+H) JEF is lookin more like Stalin every day with his purging of officers with the wrong credentials

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 08:34 PM (TcHA2)

385 @ 373 [Conservative Crank] -- Yeah, I figure I owe him at least another lesson's worth of chances, since it could be that I just didn't communicate what I was looking for very clearly. The strangest thing of all is that the guy seemed really nervous -- like three-pots-of-coffee nervous, with the shaking hands and all.

He does seem like a really nice guy, though, so I'm not going to be a dick about it. Still, it was a little disconcerting to walk away with no more knowledge than I came in with, but lighter in the wallet.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 08:36 PM (m0h0I)

386 Well, this is pithy: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-12/obama-translated

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 08:36 PM (T1005)

387 JEF is lookin more like Stalin every day with his purging of officers with the wrong credentials Posted by: really that guy did you see the gertz article on the political officers / zampolit assigned by obama to military public relations offices? http://tinyurl.com/n6hs34j

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 08:37 PM (Z9EHQ)

388 We've already seen how politics and hands-off areas have turned Afghanistan into the hell Vietnam turned into. And back then you could run raids and do things behind the back of the brass. These days with AWACs and the other surveillance stuff, you can't get away with it. The eye in the sky is always there.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2013 08:38 PM (zfY+H)

389 Like run for mayor of Toronto? Posted by: no good deed at November 13, 2013 12:31 AM (k55Fc) He's about as conservative as you're going to get in Trawna (sorry, I'll pronounce it the western Canadian way). Personally, I hope he hangs on.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:38 PM (GAUeg)

390 So, I got myself a cheap electric guitar (a Dean Playmate) and a cheap Behringer amp to learn on until I can get something a little more upscale. Today, I went to my first lesson in hopes of getting someone to teach me a little theory. What I ended up getting was thirty minutes of a guy extolling the virtues of barre chords (which I already know), neck diagrams of pentatonic scales (which I also already know).

So, I stopped and bought a copy of Guitar Theory for Dummies on the way home. I'm going to take another couple of lessons from the guy I'm currently signed up with, and if he doesn't challenge me a little more, I'm moving on.

The strange thing is, the guy never once asked me to play anything for him to see if I knew anything. He pretty much sat there with his guitar showing me stuff, and never asked me to do anything. You'd think it'd be somewhat useful to gauge someone's ability by actually listening to them.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 12:22 AM

Yeah, it's pretty much like that with most teachers. They're going through the lessons by the book. Where are you up to in playing? I wouldn't worry too much about theory until you're up to playing songs/tunes with ease and fluency. You can get a bit mired tackling theory too early. Are you already up to jamming and or band playing yet? You could find some good theory stuff on youtube.

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 08:39 PM (9gNQd)

391 I know military chaplains are getting leaned on to stop mentioning Jesus and talking about Bible stuff. There's no direct orders usually, just mockery, pressure, reassignment, etc.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2013 08:39 PM (zfY+H)

392 @ 383 [Berserker] -- What I'm looking for, essentially, is some theory and how to apply it practically . . . at least well enough to credibly improvise a simple solo and build on that foundation. I had some music theory way back in high school, and played sax for six years, so I have a fair grasp of music. But, I've forgotten a lot, and have never learned how to apply any of it to the guitar.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 08:41 PM (m0h0I)

393 He's about as conservative as you're going to get in Trawna (sorry, I'll pronounce it the western Canadian way). Personally, I hope he hangs on.

Posted by: Vendette at November 13, 2013 12:38 AM (GAUeg)

Yep. I'd sooner have a semi-conservative with a booze and drug problem than a sober Communist, and that's who his would-be replacements are. Ford, at least when he is sober, is a good mayor and has done good things for T.O.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2013 08:42 PM (8Fl6F)

394 Fairfax County is starting to weigh in on the VA AG race. The donk took the lead by 113 today. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 12, 2013 11:41 PM (l3vZN) Are they the last ones, or are other areas still left to go?

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 08:42 PM (Vk2pI)

395 I guess I got on here too late to reach most folks

oh well.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2013 08:42 PM (zfY+H)

396 I will swap deblasio for ford any day.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2013 08:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

397 did you see the gertz article on the political officers / zampolit assigned by obama to military public relations offices? http://tinyurl.com/n6hs34j Posted by: yankeefifth at November 13, 2013 12:37 AM (Z9EHQ) no, but not suprising.

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 08:43 PM (TcHA2)

398 "We did! " The stonecutters song anyone? Who asked mcrino to run for the senate? We Did!! We did!!! Posted by: GMB at November 13, 2013 12:29 AM (nkPV9) All according to planÂ…

Posted by: Steve Guttenberg at November 12, 2013 08:44 PM (Vk2pI)

399 yay, case of Roquette 1797 should be here tomorrow

Posted by: The Dude at November 12, 2013 08:44 PM (vJdyz)

400 Are they the last ones, or are other areas still left to go? Posted by: The Political Hat at November 13, 2013 12:42 AM (Vk2pI) Looks like some Fairfax County ballots were remarkably found. Sigh.

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:45 PM (GAUeg)

401 trs- I didn't really read much about it. I asked her if this was just a local internet fail story. Reddit is annoying as fuck to read imo

Posted by: Zakn at November 12, 2013 08:46 PM (Bvf82)

402 I guess I got on here too late to reach most folks oh well. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 13, 2013 12:42 AM (zfY+H) there are a lot of lurkers and readers the next day

Posted by: really that guy at November 12, 2013 08:46 PM (TcHA2)

403 @ 390 [otho] -- I've reached the point where I can play and sing a typical pop or country song well enough to do it in front of someone, and I can tease a tune out pretty quickly if I know the chords.

Where I don't do well is basic technique -- especially soloing with a pick. And I just don't have an intuitive sense of the fretboard that allows me to build chords without having them down by rote memorization or simple muscle memory.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 08:48 PM (m0h0I)

404 Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 12:41 AM (m0h0I)

If you already know scales, it's not too hard to figure out how that applies to standard chords, as in the 1, 3, 5 note groupings. A wheel of fifths is great to see how the major and minor chords are related. Once you get that, you can start throwing in the more unusual chords.

I'd recommend practicing scales with some bends thrown in if you want to get good at soloing.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 12, 2013 08:50 PM (hpYnL)

405 Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 12:48 AM (m0h0I) Just curious. Are there any songs you dread?

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:51 PM (GAUeg)

406 When govt. approved looting comes to America, and it eventually will. I will burn everything I sell to the ground, can't steal ash motherfuckers!

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 12, 2013 08:51 PM (b9K4P)

407 333 I am not really a megyn kelly fan but she is on a mission. If I was not sure obama was gay, and a bottom, I would swear he had cheated on her. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 13, 2013 12:15 AM (Z9EHQ) That's it, I have got to start watching her show.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 12, 2013 08:51 PM (DpI6K)

408 I always approach a table saw with trepidation. You can tell the guys who get casual about using one by their missing digits.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 11:21 PM (T1005)

===

It also has something to do with long hours and working tired. When the old craftsman got too wobbly to keep, I was gonna buy a cabinet saw anyway. I ended up paying the extra bux for a Sawstop. One trip to the ER costs more than the whole saw. Why risk it?

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 08:52 PM (PlzOe)

409 Oh, and there are some dumbasses out there that claim a Sawstop will get you hurt because it promotes carelessness. I will believe their theory as soon as I see them shove their hand into the spinning blade. I know it has a brake, I know it is not supposed to let me get hurt -- but I still follow all the safety rules every time.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 08:54 PM (PlzOe)

410 I'm out. Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Vendette at November 12, 2013 08:56 PM (GAUeg)

411 403 @ 390 [otho] -- I've reached the point where I can play and sing a typical pop or country song well enough to do it in front of someone, and I can tease a tune out pretty quickly if I know the chords.

Where I don't do well is basic technique -- especially soloing with a pick. And I just don't have an intuitive sense of the fretboard that allows me to build chords without having them down by rote memorization or simple muscle memory.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 12:48 AM (m0h0I)

====

some folks like the CAGED system.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 08:57 PM (PlzOe)

412 @ 404 [mugiwara] -- I guess I should say I'm familiar with scale "shapes" rather than scales themselves, though I could get up to speed with that fairly quickly.

I guess my stumbling block is teasing out how to play a lead or melody within a chord progression. I mean, I can play within a given key, but it sounds like complete garbage because I don't have the skill to play intuitively along with a chord progression. It just sounds like random notes going nowhere.

(I think this may be why the teacher didn't really know what to do with me. I'm not very good at explaining what I don't know.)

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 08:59 PM (m0h0I)

413 Looks like some Fairfax County ballots were remarkably found. Sigh. Posted by: Vendette at November 13, 2013 12:45 AM (GAUeg Knew that shit would happen. Welcome to the Blue States! I think McAwful will overplay his hand and get stomped. (Wishful thinking i know)

Posted by: RWC at November 12, 2013 09:00 PM (LpbKr)

414 What I'm looking for, essentially, is some theory and how to apply it practically . . . at least well enough to credibly improvise a simple solo and build on that foundation. I had some music theory way back in high school, and played sax for six years, so I have a fair grasp of music. But, I've forgotten a lot, and have never learned how to apply any of it to the guitar.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 12:41 AM (m0h0I)

Yeah, 2 schools of thought on that one. I have pretty much played with all calibers of musicians over the years from hacks to pros. "Generally" speaking, the ones who used theory to improvise their solos usually sounded a little 1 dimensional and cliche, while the dudes who pulled their solos from within themselves were usually the ones that sounded good. I guess what I'm saying is a great solo won't come from a book, but comes from inside you, and what you really need to learn is how to bring whats in your head TO the fingerboard. That is the hardest part in the beginning, and only comes from constant playing, and trial and error, but that will ultimately result in you sounding like YOU. Soloing is basically freestyle, you need to hear it in your head first. Knowing your way around the fretboard takes time, but it WILL become instinctive. If you have a good ear you have half the battle won.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 09:04 PM (FMbng)

415 @ 405 [Vendette] -- The songs I dread are the ones that have the funky chords further up the neck, like the stuff jazz players like to play. I'm not looking to burn up the fretboard by any stretch. But, I do want to be able to play with some sense of soul.

I'm a big fan of Pete Anderson, who used to play with Dwight Yoakam. I can sing and play the rhythm part of just about any of his songs, but when the solo starts, and I hear all the funky chords, it just pisses me off.

It's just that I'm not looking to learn by literally copying what the original player did. But, I want to learn how to play within a given style. I'll never play like Yngwie Malmsteen, obviously -- but I'd love to know how he applies the different scale modes to what he does in order to achieve the feel of what he does.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 09:10 PM (m0h0I)

416 I'll never play like Yngwie Malmsteen, obviously -- but I'd love to know how he applies the different scale modes to what he does in order to achieve the feel of what he does.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 01:10 AM (m0h0I)

yeah good luck with that, I can play like yngwie and I don't even know what the fuck is going on in his head. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 09:12 PM (FMbng)

417 @ 390 [otho] -- I've reached the point where I can play and sing a typical pop or country song well enough to do it in front of someone, and I can tease a tune out pretty quickly if I know the chords.

Where I don't do well is basic technique -- especially soloing with a pick. And I just don't have an intuitive sense of the fretboard that allows me to build chords without having them down by rote memorization or simple muscle memory.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 12:48 AM

Don't underestimate rote memorization and muscle memory! Sounds like you're at the point where some serious theory won't hamper you and will really help to become a better guitarist, so tackle that shit if you're so inclined. That being said, depending on how much time you're putting in on a daily/weekly basis, I'd focus more on your technique, if that 's where you're feeling the restraint. If you've got shit loads of guitar time to spend, grab some of that theory and work on it. If you're not playing a lot... use the time you have to concentrate on technique. Seriously, it makes a bigger difference in getting better, to play it well, without knowing what the fuck you're doing, than knowing what makes an Am an Am, if you're still struggling to put some shit together.

What I mean is, once you've gotten your technique down, the theory should come much, much easier and you will probably advance at a greater rate. Again, it depends on the time you can afford to put in. Also, don't worry too much about solos and picking just yet. Nail your rythm shit down and work on picking as gravy, rather than the objective. If you spend too much time on your lead, you'll never quite reach the kickass level as a rythm player first. Played rythm well is often overlooked. But, what do I know? Some of the other more accomplished guitar people will probably have better advice. I'm one that always struggled with the "theory" and fancy lead playing and worked on technique.

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 09:13 PM (9gNQd)

418 Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 12:59 AM (m0h0I)

Are you familiar with the wheel of fifths? At the 12 o'clock is C Major, 1 o'clock is G Major, or the fifth note in the key of C, then D Major, the fifth of G, etc. The other way from C is F, the fourth note of C, and so on so it's sometimes called the wheel of fourths. You play those chords, you have a song. Now look below the C Major, you have an A Minor. Look at the notes that make up each scale, they're identical, just sequenced differently. Play any variation of C Major, A Minor, F Major, and G Major, you've got a hundred hit songs.

Guitar is great for learning what the harmonic sequence has to do with music as well, you should be familiar with your harmonics. Note how the twelfth fret is exactly halfway from the nut to the bridge, the seventh fret is one third, and the fifth is one quarter, all of them have harmonics. Remember that a full octave contains 12 notes, 5 and 7 is 12. It doesn't really add a lot to your playing, but it's interesting stuff if you're into the theory of why things sound good.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 12, 2013 09:15 PM (hpYnL)

419 Oh, and there are some dumbasses out there that claim a Sawstop will get you hurt because it promotes carelessness. I will believe their theory as soon as I see them shove their hand into the spinning blade. I know it has a brake, I know it is not supposed to let me get hurt -- but I still follow all the safety rules every time. Posted by: jc at November 13, 2013 12:54 AM (PlzOe) Just call me "Mr. Butterfingers" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toNsPh-pxgc

Posted by: Local Shop Teacher Joe Early at November 12, 2013 09:16 PM (Vk2pI)

420 220 Also a big fatty with serious pipes and a sense of humor - Jann Arden. She's the reason I became a professional singer. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 12, 2013 11:38 PM (N/cFh) I've never heard of her before. http://tinyurl.com/l6l7f7n bbl

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2013 09:16 PM (sdi6R)

421 DDR did you do improvisation when you played sax?

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 09:17 PM (PlzOe)

422 @ 414 [Berserker] -- Yeah, it's the getting what's going on in my head to move down to my hand that kills me. I consider myself a pretty fair at strumming and finger picking -- which is to say, I can hold my own on an acoustic. But, when I pick up an electric, I sound like I've never played a day in my life.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 09:18 PM (m0h0I)

423 414 What I'm looking for, essentially, is some theory
and how to apply it practically . . . at least well enough to credibly
improvise a simple solo and build on that foundation. I had some music
theory way back in high school, and played sax for six years, so I have a
fair grasp of music. But, I've forgotten a lot, and have never learned
how to apply any of it to the guitar.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 12:41 AM (m0h0I)

Yeah, 2 schools of thought on that one. I have pretty much played with all calibers of musicians over the years from hacks to pros. "Generally"
speaking, the ones who used theory to improvise their solos usually
sounded a little 1 dimensional and cliche, while the dudes who pulled
their solos from within themselves were usually the ones that sounded
good. I guess what I'm saying is a great solo won't come from a book,
but comes from inside you, and what you really need to learn is how to
bring whats in your head TO the fingerboard. That is the hardest part in the beginning, and only comes from constant playing, and trial and
error, but that will ultimately result in you sounding like YOU. Soloing is basically freestyle, you need to hear it in your head first. Knowing your way around the fretboard takes time, but it WILL become instinctive. If you have a good ear you have half the battle won.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 13, 2013 01:04 AM (FMbng)

When I think of soloing (and that's generally as far as it goes, 'cause my technique on any instrument "esta muy suckamundo"), I'm of two minds -- on the one hand, I'm thinking of notes within the current chord's scale or, when modulating to a different chord, the shared notes and 'graceful slurs' [e.g. F -> G7 -> C....while in F, noodle around the F scale, with emphasis on F, A, C, E flat....while changing F -> G7, stick to G, A, C, D, E (shared notes) and think of graceful slurs from B flat -> B or F -> F# {probably not, since it's G7}....in G7, emphasize G, B, D, F....] -- and on the other hand, I'm trying to capture in an instrument what I'd do if I was whistling along with the tune.

Needless to say, I can't do solos in a "pickup band" environment.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 09:22 PM (T1005)

424 If you spend too much time on your lead, you'll never quite reach the kickass level as a rythm player first. Played rythm well is often overlooked. But, what do I know? Some of the other more accomplished guitar people will probably have better advice. I'm one that always struggled with the "theory" and fancy lead playing and worked on technique.

Posted by: otho at November 13, 2013 01:13 AM (9gNQd)

1000 times this. One guitar player I played with for years spent 90% of his time learning leads. His rhythm suffered like you wouldn't believe. I'm talking metal, but you need very fast picking and a sledge hammer right wrist to pound the strings. He listened to all the wrong players as far as I was concerned, players that weren't known for their rhythm ability. He liked George Lynch, excellent player, but not the dude thats gonna teach you to burn out a Slayer rhythm, or any thrash or speed metal. He liked Van halen, same deal. He spent all his time trying to master the "flash" and let his rhythm slip into the void. He ended up with serious rhythm deficiencies to where he wouldn't even be able to play the shit I would write, forget about following me on a shred harmony. Not a good place to be.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 09:27 PM (FMbng)

425 The top article was ripped from Alternative Right, a white supremacist site. Does Ace of Spades really want to associate its brand with those kinds of people?

Posted by: RAB at November 12, 2013 09:38 PM (8ldvV)

426 ..... shared notes and 'graceful slurs' ......

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2013 01:22 AM (T1005)

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For some reason that concept went completely past me until I started working on keyboards. I was stunned to discover how often one can go all the way through chord progressions by only moving 1 or 2 fingers at a time when using chord inversions.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 09:40 PM (PlzOe)

427 >>> The top article was ripped from... The Telegraph (AU) What's your point, Asshole?

Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2013 09:41 PM (Ua6T/)

428 The top article was ripped from Alternative Right, a white supremacist site. Does Ace of Spades really want to associate its brand with those kinds of people? Posted by: RAB at November 13, 2013 01:38 AM (8ldvV) The original site is pretty blatant about it as well. It needs to be de-linked ASAP with a follow up full apology. Always try to check the original source.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 09:42 PM (Vk2pI)

429 >>> The top article was ripped from... The Telegraph (AU) What's your point, Asshole? Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2013 01:41 AM (Ua6T/) He's referring to the one about the V masks. And yes, the originating site that bad.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 09:43 PM (Vk2pI)

430 Uh...yeah. I was referring to the V mask article, not the quote above it. Sorry for the confusion.

Posted by: RAB at November 12, 2013 09:47 PM (8ldvV)

431 Yeah, it's the getting what's going on in my head to move down to my hand that kills me. I consider myself a pretty fair at strumming and finger picking -- which is to say, I can hold my own on an acoustic. But, when I pick up an electric, I sound like I've never played a day in my life.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 01:18 AM (m0h0I)

It will come in time. I know very little theory. I never needed it because I developed photographic memory where music is concerned. I hear a song and I can "see" in my head exactly on the fingerboard where the notes are, so I can usually knock a huge chunk of an average song out on the first listen. When I first started learning classical is was soooo far from what I was used to I sounded like a retard. The neck was way wider, so my usual pin point accuracy was in the toilet. Plus, I held a pick for years, so having to open my hand and actually finger pick strings was a huge challenge. As good as my ear is, and as good as my command on electric guitar was, I was a drooling idiot with classical. I sounded nothing like the dude with over 30 years of playing under his belt. I sounded like fucking rain man. It took a year just to get my bearings, then it eventually pulled together nice. Basically, you have to play, and play, and play. Find a song you like and absorb it, learn the rhythms, learn the leads, and then go to the next song. You have to play, and that will hone your skills. Learning songs will give you the instincts.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 09:47 PM (FMbng)

432 Sorry, RAB. I over-stepped.

Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2013 09:48 PM (Ua6T/)

433 427 ..... shared notes and 'graceful slurs' ......

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2013 01:22 AM (T1005)

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For some reason that concept went completely past me until I started working on keyboards. I was stunned to discover how often one can go all the way through chord progressions by only moving 1 or 2 fingers at a time when using chord inversions.

Posted by: jc at November 13, 2013 01:40 AM (PlzOe)

....and now I'm "outed" -- part of my problem with guitar is that I look at them as mutant keyboards, and I'm constantly attempting to translate on the fly -- "whole, whole, half, whole, whole, whole, half....".

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 09:49 PM (T1005)

434 @ 423 [cthulhu] -- I'm of two minds -- on the one hand, I'm thinking of notes within the current chord's scale or, when modulating to a different chord, the shared notes and 'graceful slurs' [e.g. F -> G7 -> C....while in F, noodle around the F scale, with emphasis on F, A, C, E flat....while changing F -> G7, stick to G, A, C, D, E (shared notes) and think of graceful slurs from B flat -> B or F -> F# {probably not, since it's G7}....in G7, emphasize G, B, D, F....] -- and on the other hand, I'm trying to capture in an instrument what I'd do if I was whistling along with the tune.

That's the stuff I'm talking about. Unfortunately, what I think I may have signed up for was lessons along the lines of "OK, what song do you want to learn how to play?" What I want is the basic building blocks that will allow me to hear a song I want to play and have a sense of how its done, and then apply that to my own playing.

@ 424 [Berserker] -- I feel like I have a pretty strong sense of rhythm. In fact, that's probably my strongest suit as a player. For a typical pop song without a lot of unusual chords, I can usually figure it out in a few minutes after seeing or teasing out the progressions. So, I'm looking to supplement that with the ability solo credibly, but not necessarily be a lead guitar-type.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 09:50 PM (m0h0I)

435 No problem. I wouldn't of known either just from the linked website if it wasn't for my need to follow every link to its original source!

Posted by: RAB at November 12, 2013 09:51 PM (8ldvV)

436 And even then I only noticed because I started reading the comments like I usually do....it got disturbing pretty quickly....

Posted by: RAB at November 12, 2013 09:52 PM (8ldvV)

437 "When govt. approved looting comes to America, and it eventually will."

Eventually? The future is now my friend.

Posted by: bill-o at November 12, 2013 09:56 PM (AWwDY)

438 Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 01:50 AM (m0h0I) I play blues almost exclusively.....playing lead I use minor pentatonic scales....playing the scale of the I chord thru the progression will work.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2013 09:57 PM (j7iSn)

439 @ 432 [Berserker] -- Funny you should mention playing classical. A guy at the guitar shop handed me one today, and I played that thing much, much better than I play my own acoustic. It actually blew my mind because I figured there was no way in hell I'd be able to play it with the wide neck and string placement. But, I shit you not, it felt "right".

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 09:57 PM (m0h0I)

440 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-12/obama-translated Looks about right ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 12, 2013 09:57 PM (jdRXP)

441 Basically, you have to play, and play, and play. Find a song you like and absorb it, learn the rhythms, learn the leads, and then go to the next song. You have to play, and that will hone your skills. Learning songs will give you the instincts.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 13, 2013 01:47 AM

What he said. I might have missed it, but what type of music are looking at getting to, DDR? If it's rock, country, blues, pop... etc... you might be overthinking it too early. Guitar for those forms is very different to sax or even piano. Get the feel down, the rhythm, the beat, that stuff. It'll come. Play the shit out of a song that you like until you're got it nailed. Do another. Play, play, play. The fretboard will do your bidding just by rote work. Tame that guitar rather than figure out how it thinks. For now, anyway.

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 10:00 PM (9gNQd)

442 ..... my lack of comfort navigating the fretboard. I just can't help feeling that some amount of theory (as particularly applied to the guitar) will make me more at ease with moving around the neck.

==== backwards to most people, I learned 1st on a 4-string bass, which is usually tuned as just the top (most bass) strings of a 6-string guitar (EADG).

Oddly enough, without the glitch at the B-string it is very easy to pick up the whole fretboard because all the relationships stay the same no matter where you go -- (If you remember Stanley Jordan, I read somewhere that he used to tune his guitar EADGCF for the same reason)

A 5-string bass is also easy in normal tuning -- the B string is the deepest bass on the top, so the same spacial relationships hold true and also never change anywhere on the neck. (BEADG)

So, on a bass, the 4th is always on the string right below any note on the same fret. The 5th is always on the string right above on the same fret. The octaves are always 2 strings down and 2 frets towards the bridge (and obviously the opposite). It is really easy to get those relationships down cold, and then you can find all the other intervals every time without even really thinking about it. For example -- want a 3rd ?, go towards the nut from the 4th, etc.

For me, the glitch caused by having a 3rd instead of a 4th between G-string and the B-string makes things really goofy. So, I just think of the B-string as being on top of the E-string like I would on a 5-string bass.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 10:01 PM (PlzOe)

443 If you really want to play guitar well, you just gotta go on down to the crossroadsÂ…

Posted by: Robert Johnson at November 12, 2013 10:02 PM (Vk2pI)

444 I originally started typing all the songs from that list that AREN'T obscure but the list got too long.

Yeah, no shit.

Evening, morons. Well, middle of the night here, but cats don't read clocks.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking beer at November 12, 2013 10:02 PM (hO8IJ)

445 Well, middle of the night here, but cats don't read clocks. Sure they do ... They just don't take the cookies out of the oven before they burn for you ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 12, 2013 10:05 PM (jdRXP)

446 I say, if it felt right, DDR, go for it.

Posted by: Alana at November 12, 2013 10:05 PM (/Hmfd)

447 435 @ 423 [cthulhu] -- I'm of two minds -- on the one hand, I'm thinking of notes within the
current chord's scale or, when modulating to a different chord, the
shared notes and 'graceful slurs' [e.g. F -> G7 -> C....while in
F, noodle around the F scale, with emphasis on F, A, C, E flat....while
changing F -> G7, stick to G, A, C, D, E (shared notes) and think of
graceful slurs from B flat -> B or F -> F# {probably not, since
it's G7}....in G7, emphasize G, B, D, F....] -- and on the other hand,
I'm trying to capture in an instrument what I'd do if I was whistling
along with the tune.

That's the stuff I'm talking about. Unfortunately, what I think I may have signed up for was lessons along the lines of "OK, what song do you want to learn how to play?" What I want is the basic building blocks that will allow me to hear a song I want to play and have a sense of how its done, and then apply that to my own playing.

@ 424 [Berserker] -- I feel like I have a pretty strong sense of rhythm. In fact, that's probably my strongest suit as a player. For a typical pop song without a lot of unusual chords, I can usually figure it out in a few minutes after seeing or teasing out the progressions. So, I'm looking to supplement that with the ability solo credibly, but not necessarily be a lead guitar-type.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 01:50 AM (m0h0I)

If I were looking to describe what I'd be looking for in your shoes (and what I think you'd find helpful), I'd be talking about common cadences [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadence_%28music%29 ] and learning/practicing riffs that steer through them. As an example, on a keyboard you can go F-F-F-G7-C (hold) and it's a unit, found all over the place [them's chords -- for F, read "F, A, C"; for G7, read "F, G, B"; for C, read "E, G, C"]. You can transpose it up or down, but it's a satisfying cadence and often used.

Once you have a particular cadence [AKA "turnaround" in jazz], there are many common riffs that steer through it -- some more country, some more jazz, some more classical, some more avant-garde -- but they're all valid ways through the knot. If you learn a few, you could solo by doing some fancy arpeggio of the chord during repeated chord sections and doing cadence riffs during modulation.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 10:10 PM (T1005)

448 Thank you whoever de-linked that article. The entire quote, though, really needs to go as it still ties back.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 10:10 PM (Vk2pI)

449 @ 442 [otho] -- Yeah, that's the kind of stuff I'm looking to play. And, yeah, I probably am over-thinking it too early. It's just that I feel like my progress is slowing down and I'm just about to hit a wall unless I get some one-on-one instruction who can explain what's going on beyond just showing me what to do and writing out a guitar tab.

At this point, I feel like I'm the musical equivalent of the guy who knows just enough karate to get his ass kicked really bad.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 10:11 PM (m0h0I)

450 Bravo! Great ONT! Fun reading at every stop.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 12, 2013 10:12 PM (RqHWH)

451

I feel like I have a pretty
strong sense of rhythm. In fact, that's probably my strongest suit as a
player. For a typical pop song without a lot of unusual chords, I can
usually figure it out in a few minutes after seeing or teasing out the
progressions. So, I'm looking to supplement that with the ability solo
credibly, but not necessarily be a lead guitar-type.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 01:50 AM

It sounds like you're better than me already. I'll shut my facking damn fool mouth now.

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 10:12 PM (9gNQd)

452 Damn, I'm jealous that "V for Vendetta masks are made in sweatshops by corporations and sold as a commodity to braindead adolescent faux revolutionaries" post got a link. Why? Because I scooped it with the same observation SEVEN (yes, seven) years ago! : http://www.zombietime.com/stop_the_us_israeli_war_8_12_2006/ August 12, 2006 "Wannabe anarchists wearing Guy Fawkes masks manufactured in China as promotional items for the corporate-financed pro-anarchism film V for Vendetta." Then: http://www.zombietime.com/beach_impeach/ January 6, 2007 "A group of people wearing corporate-sponsored made-in-China plastic masks from the pseudo-anarchist film V for Vendetta showed up to impress us with their hip rebelliousness. (Apparently, falling for the capitalist marketing of V for Vendetta anarchist chic is a growing trend.) " Then: http://www.zombietime.com/us_out_of_iraq_now_sf_3-18-2007/ March 18, 2007 "The sad little wannabe anarchists wearing their corporate-designed, corporate-distributed V for Vendetta Guy Fawkes faux-anarchy masks made by slave prison labor in China and sold for three bucks a pop to American rebels-without-a-pause-for-thought made their usual appearance as well. " Finally: http://zombietime.com/day_of_fail/ September 17, 2011 "You may have noticed in the background of the previous picture someone wearing a V for Vendetta Guy Fawkes mask. Here he is again (with yet another incomprehensible sign), putting a mask over his mask -- in case anyone recognizes that he's really Guy Fawkes! The San Francisco protest was practically lousy with Guy Fawkeseses. The mask's hipster quotient has received a major boost in recent weeks in San Francisco, as the hacker group Anonymous (who wear the masks to insure anonymity during their rare public appearances) has this month been engaging in weekly anti-police protests against BART (the local commuter rail system), upping their street cred. Now, anybody who wants to self-identify as an Anonymous member can just go into a Halloween costume store and for $3.99 become an anti-hero hacker! (Computer knowledge not required.) " ------------------------------ I thought I had mocked those things out of existence, but apparently my influence is more picayune than I realized.

Posted by: zombie at November 12, 2013 10:13 PM (+cx5n)

453 So I read the comments from the bottom up tonight, not sure if better or worse, really - leaning towards things getting progressively worse - and then, I clicked the lobster link, WTF was I thinking ...

Posted by: Joe who will always think of lobsters diferently, now at November 12, 2013 10:13 PM (cuNv9)

454 Here's a good balance between rhythm and lead guitar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rfL0_ORFdw Keith Richard has no problem playing rhythm for most of the song. Yes, rhythm is crucial.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2013 10:17 PM (sdi6R)

455

Picayune Zombie! *swoon*

What does the Fawkes say

Posted by: Joe who cannot get spacing right at November 12, 2013 10:17 PM (cuNv9)

456 So yeah: Veterans Affairs forced chaplains from program for quoting Scripture, praying in the name of Jesus, suit alleges http://tinyurl.com/pxxssg3

Posted by: biscuits mahoney at November 12, 2013 10:18 PM (avEon)

457 You can prolly click on this lobster link w/ no eye bleach required ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2V2h_Bd_Gg

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 12, 2013 10:20 PM (jdRXP)

458 452 I feel like I have a pretty strong sense of rhythm. In fact, that's probably my strongest suit as a player. For a typical pop song without a lot of unusual chords, I can usually figure it out in a few minutes after seeing or teasing out the progressions. So, I'm looking to supplement that with the ability solo credibly, but not necessarily be a lead guitar-type.Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 01:50 AM

It sounds like you're better than me already. I'll shut my facking damn fool mouth now.

Posted by: otho at November 13, 2013 02:12 AM (9gNQd)

I have no absolute sense of pitch -- so when something goes up a fifth and plays for a while and then down a fourth, I have no idea where that is from when I started. In a band situation, I'm the guy who's always going, "what key are we in?!?!??" And when I guess wrong, I can play half the song in the wrong key and not know why I'm getting the stink-eye.

I think I get that from my dad. He used to hum/mumble some things that we always took for random noise until my mom picked up a copy of Marty Robbins' "Gunfighter Ballads and Trail Songs" out of a remainder bin and we realized -- to our shock -- that 80% of his hum/mumble things were actually someone singing along to memories of the album with zero sense of pitch and uncertain knowledge of the lyrics.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 10:20 PM (T1005)

459 Good job, zombie.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2013 10:22 PM (sdi6R)

460 @ 443 [jc] -- You've hit upon the very thing that gives me fits. The B string just seems so counter-intuitive that when I approach it, I'm almost a little snake-bitten. It's almost as if the guy who created that tuning was thinking, "Well, I'd better do something to complicate things, otherwise it'll be too easy and everyone will be a guitarist."

@ 448 [cthulhu] -- Thanks for the pointer! That will be a help. Like I said, I'm not looking to be any kind of guitar hero, but I'd like to be able to competently (if leisurely) jam and swap licks at some point in the not-too-distant future.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 10:22 PM (m0h0I)

461 Zombie rules

Posted by: Zakn at November 12, 2013 10:25 PM (Bvf82)

462 Okay, to start another debate--I plan on going elk hunting next year with a buddy. Don't have a rifle of my own. Should I go 30-06, .300, or .308? One possible consideration is the indoor range I'm joining will allow firing up to .300, but I'm not sure where I can go to practice .308 right now, I'll probably have to research outdoor ranges, though I imagine I'll have to do that regardless to practice.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 12, 2013 10:26 PM (b2cFu)

463 A guy I used to work with (RIP) hunted elk and ram with a 30-06.

Posted by: Zakn at November 12, 2013 10:27 PM (Bvf82)

464 CC - a moose bit my sister, once ... otherwise, no help what so ever on the subject of rifles ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 12, 2013 10:28 PM (jdRXP)

465 Demonstrating the idiocy of the anarchists. Their preferred idol sought to institute a theocracy.

Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2013 10:28 PM (LI48c)

466 heh http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-11/hope-is-all-obamacare-has-left.html

Posted by: Zakn at November 12, 2013 10:30 PM (Bvf82)

467 Speaking of the B-52's, I remember they put together a song for a Target commercial (Orange you glad its Summer). I've never been able to fine that online, and the B-5s's have never released it outside of that commercialÂ…

Posted by: The Lobster Hat at November 12, 2013 10:32 PM (Vk2pI)

468 I have no absolute sense of pitch -- so when something goes up a fifth and plays for a while and then down a fourth, I have no idea where that is from when I started. In a band situation, I'm the guy who's always going, "what key are we in?!?!??" And when I guess wrong, I can play half the song in the wrong key and not know why I'm getting the stink-eye.

I think I get that from my dad. He used to hum/mumble some things that we always took for random noise until my mom picked up a copy of Marty Robbins' "Gunfighter Ballads and Trail Songs" out of a remainder bin and we realized -- to our shock -- that 80% of his hum/mumble things were actually someone singing along to memories of the album with zero sense of pitch and uncertain knowledge of the lyrics.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2013 02:20 AM

I can relate to this. Don't have much of a natural ear. Learn't music by listening to the drums. Probably should have been a drummer. Got given a bass and told to become one because a band need one. The drum thing came in handy there. Turned to guitar and worked on rythm and slide/riffs etc. Worked reall hard at it. Mostly playing all day every day, etc. Only got a limited amount of by ear ability, but, with the work I managed to bring some pretty decent rythm work to a song, often better than the much more accomplished lead style players, who viewed rhythm as just "filler". So I'm told. They were probably just bullshitting me. Seriously, I suck. But I can sound pretty decent while sucking.

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 10:33 PM (9gNQd)

469 Demonstrating the idiocy of the anarchists. Their preferred idol sought to institute a theocracy.

How many of them know he was a real historical figure, and how many just liked that crappy movie a few years back?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking beer at November 12, 2013 10:33 PM (hO8IJ)

470 I always thought it was a good idea to master a certain genre, because they all seem to speak their own language. In the end thats really what you are doing, trying to learn the language. Yngwie's leads sound like they do because they are basically classical violin scales played over the rhythms that suit them. Blues leads would never work over the rhythms used by a lot of the european viking metal bands, and their leads would never work over blues rhythms. I always learned more by trying to get inside the "head" of a certain genre to learn the language of that genre, and it seemed to make it a lot easier to play because you learned the language.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 10:34 PM (FMbng)

471 kinda like the wannabe socialist with their Che tshirts they bought from a capitalist co-opting the image ... my current favorite flavor is the "big government" progressive anarchist - something is missing from these folk ...

Posted by: Joe who cannot get spacing right at November 12, 2013 10:34 PM (cuNv9)

472 460 @ 443 [jc] -- You've hit upon the very thing that gives me fits. The B string just seems so counter-intuitive that when I approach it, I'm almost a little snake-bitten. It's almost as if the guy who created that tuning was thinking, "Well, I'd better do something to complicate things, otherwise it'll be too easy and everyone will be a guitarist."

@ 448 [cthulhu] -- Thanks for the pointer! That will be a help. Like I said, I'm not looking to be any kind of guitar hero, but I'd like to be able to competently (if leisurely) jam and swap licks at some point in the not-too-distant future.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 02:22 AM (m0h0I)

And, related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM#t=179

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 10:35 PM (T1005)

473 @ 452 [otho] -- I doubt seriously that I'm better than you are. I've essentially taught myself all the basic chords and a few of the less common ones that do find their way into pop music here and there. And from there, I just play what my ear tells me. But, if someone were to ask me what I was doing, all I'd be able to tell them was the chords and then say, "just do this because I have no idea what the hell I'm doing."

@ 459 [cthulhu] -- My problem is that I have a pretty decent ear, and it tells me not just that I'm playing something wrong, but that I'm playing it hopelessly wrong. I don't have perfect pitch for sure, but a pretty acute ear to the point where I want to say something to much more experienced guitar players than myself when I hear something that's just not right when they're playing.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 10:35 PM (m0h0I)

474 My problem is that I have a pretty decent ear, and it tells me not just that I'm playing something wrong, but that I'm playing it hopelessly wrong. I don't have perfect pitch for sure, but a pretty acute ear to the point where I want to say something to much more experienced guitar players than myself when I hear something that's just not right when they're playing.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 02:35 AM (m0h0I)

You NEED that ear. You have half the battle won if you have that kind of ear. If it can tell you how bad you are doing something, it will also tell you how right something is.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 10:39 PM (FMbng)

475 The Lobster Hat at November 13, 2013 02:32 AM (Vk2pI) I don't think I've heard it. I am not a tv watcher ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 12, 2013 10:41 PM (jdRXP)

476 I'm right-handed. The first time I had a chance to pick up a guitar, I just picked it up without a conscious thought and started (incompetently) mimicking what guitar playing looked like to me. The person I was with informed me, laughing, that I had done it completely wrong, because I was holding it upside-down -- with my right hand on the neck, and my left had strumming the strings. So I did what she said and flipped it over -- but it just felt wrong to hold it the "correct" way. Couldn't get the hang of it. Every single time since that moment, I inevitably pick up any stringed instrument and ALWAYS naturally hold it "upside down" as a left-hander would -- even though I am not left-handed. Eventually someone told me that it was possible to play guitar the left-handed way, but you couldn't simply flip a regular guitar upside down -- no, you had to get a left-handed guitar, that has the strings in reverse order. That way, it's an exact mirror image of a right-handed guitar, and one could learn all the chord fingerings that way. So I tried that too once or twice -- but the fingerings were crazy and awkward and "made no sense" to my hand when done the "correct" way with a reverse-stringed left-handed guitar. The same was also true for ukuleles and basses, btw. Then I saw a rerun of a very old TV show in which Pete Seeger had Elizabeth Cotten on as a guest, and he handed her his guitar, which she simply flipped upside-down as I had originally tried to do. And she played! Wonderfully! Pete explained that was simply her way of doing it -- and since she was a living legend, no one was going to argue with her. At that moment I realized that upside-down playing was indeed possible, and I should ignore the naysayers. I even went to the trouble of constructing a chord chart for how to play the well-known chords on an upside-down guitar using my right hand to hold down the strings where needed. I felt that these "incorrect" chord-fingerings were in over half the cases in fact EASIER to do and hold than doing it the correct way. This goes doubly true for ukuleles -- upside-down ukulele chords are in about 80% of cases simpler to do than the normal way. Why the world insists on playing guitars the way they do, I'll never understand. And it's not just with the fingerings. For me, as a right-hander, I find it much easier to do the "detailed" difficult work of fingering using my most dextrous (pun intended) hand, while relegating the "dumb" left hand to do the brute force work of strumming. Why oh why does everyone else feel comfortable doing the fine detail work with their awkward hand? It makes no sense. I never did become an actual guitarist (never took a lesson, never gave much effort to it), but that's my "unique" experience. I think a lot of people share it, but don't want to admit it.

Posted by: zombie at November 12, 2013 10:46 PM (+cx5n)

477 And, just to share the wandering mind syndrome..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FekVR_SC5M

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 10:47 PM (T1005)

478 In a band situation, I'm the guy who's always going, "what key are we in?!?!??" And when I guess wrong, I can play half the song in the wrong key and not know why I'm getting the stink-eye."

God this sounds like me. As a bassist, unfortunately there is no where to hide either... I have a big problem following guitarists too as I have a hard time picking up what the root is by looking at their fingers, are they hitting an open string what are those bottom 2 strings for anyway?

Posted by: bill-o at November 12, 2013 10:47 PM (AWwDY)

479

After some wikipedia research, it appears that I don't know dick about rifles. A .308 is actually less powerful than a 30-06, and if they allow .300 Winchester then both 30-06 and .308 should be kosher.

So, as to recoil--is a .300 worth the extra recoil compared to a 30-06 or the .308?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 12, 2013 10:48 PM (b2cFu)

480

ok after the welcome to Canada beaver (which I've seen before) these are getting slow

Posted by: Joe who cannot get spacing right at November 12, 2013 10:48 PM (cuNv9)

481 [otho] -- I doubt seriously that I'm better than you are. I've essentially taught myself all the basic chords and a few of the less common ones that do find their way into pop music here and there. And from there, I just play what my ear tells me. But, if someone were to ask me what I was doing, all I'd be able to tell them was the chords and then say, "just do this because I have no idea what the hell I'm doing."

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 02:35 AM

Shit, man... you know what the chords are. I'm flat out remembering that shit. If asked what chord I'm playing, I'd usually relpy... "dunno. The 3rd one in the song, I think?"

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 10:48 PM (9gNQd)

482 Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 02:46 AM (+cx5n)

I think it's because the intent is for the left hand to shape the area to explore and the right hand to pick within it.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 10:49 PM (T1005)

483 @ 475 [Berserker] -- It's definitely made learning what I do know a lot easier. The only problem with it is that it makes the stuff I don't know frustrating. So, I'm hoping to find a teacher who doesn't just "show me how it's done", but who can say, "OK, here's what's going on -- you have to approach it like this. Think of it as it relates to this song by this guy, and you know how he does that one thing? Well, it's the same thing here, but you just have to do this -- that's what makes it sound this way as opposed to that way."

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 10:53 PM (m0h0I)

484 Night all. Here is "Roam" by the B-52's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCUnzcUMJHc

Posted by: The Lobster Hat at November 12, 2013 10:54 PM (Vk2pI)

485 Why do I always end up here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qQnGfZpIfY

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 10:55 PM (T1005)

486 483 Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2013 02:49 Perhaps. But the original guitar style was more strummy -- guitars were considered a rhythm instrument until the early '40s -- and "lead guitar" style, which involved more detailed picking, didn't really emerge until the early '50s. And yet, of course, the standardization of guitar holding and chords was completely already set in stone much much earlier, back when the guitar was mostly just strummed as a rhythm instrument.

Posted by: zombie at November 12, 2013 10:55 PM (+cx5n)

487

I believe there are may different tunes for Uke, and I suppose a lefty could always flip the strings on any righty guitar. And on that note, commenting on something for which I have no expertise, g'nite!

Posted by: Joe who is tired now at November 12, 2013 10:56 PM (cuNv9)

488 Here's a nice 10,000 Maniacs cover of The Cure's "Just Like Heaven": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnvAk4HXzaw And with that, I'm off to bed. Night, all.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2013 10:57 PM (sdi6R)

489 Shit, man... you know what the chords are. I'm flat out remembering that shit. If asked what chord I'm playing, I'd usually relpy... "dunno. The 3rd one in the song, I think?"

Posted by: otho at November 13, 2013 02:48 AM (9gNQd)

Funny shit. That sounds a lot like the shit I would say. A guitar player would ask "Hey what scale was that"? I would say Fuck who knows, the one that sounds right. lol

I know little theory, and what I do know came from classical.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 10:58 PM (FMbng)

490 460 @ 443 [jc] -- You've hit upon the very thing that gives me fits.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 02:22 AM (m0h0I)

====

I thought that might be it. Suggestion --- an approach to cut the fretboard mapping problem down to much smaller chunks.

just ignore the treble B for a little while. You can map the entire neck in your head in short order on the top 4 (EADG). One reason it is easy is you only have to map 12 frets cuz they repeat.

Once you see the simplicity in that -- then consider that the treble E is just a copy of the bass E and you already know it cold. You will also know all the relationships between the B-E because they are the same as all the other relationships in the top 4 strings you already know.

Then the only thing left for you to map in your head will be the G-B glitch. (Which actually screws me up more when skipping strings from D-B, G-E, than from G-B cuz I get the whole major 3rd thing OK.)

BTW, the G-B glitch occurs because it takes 13 positions to have 12 spaces. Can't be helped. Same reason there are 5 black keys and 8 white keys.

Which reminds me of something else I blundered across -- all the pentatonic scales are just the black keys, and the only difference between the various pentatonic scales is which black key you start on. So, if you want to translate pentatonic scales onto your guitar, just play only sharps and flats until you learn the shape of that scale. Then you can translate that shape anywhere on the neck and play pentatonic scales in any key.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 10:59 PM (PlzOe)

491 Animal rights lunatic says women who wear fur should be raped: http://tinyurl.com/q2hdmkw

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 11:00 PM (Vk2pI)

492 Roses are red, Strawberries are two, And with raspberries making three, May there be enough pie for all of you ..

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 12, 2013 11:00 PM (jdRXP)

493 BTW, Hawaii legalized same-sex marriage.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2013 11:02 PM (Vk2pI)

494 I am humbled, awed, and ultimately demoralized when I see the masters of any instrument play. I quit playing the piano the first time I saw a video of Errol Garner. That was it. Finito. Ultimate mastery had been achieved, and everything subsequent to his career would be a pathetic pale imitation. Same was true for guitar. Once you see Joseph Spence, Jimi Hendrix et alia play, there's no real point in continuing your studies. Unless you were a natural-born genius, you will always be an incompetent struggling buffoon by comparison. So I quit even pretending to play stringed instruments as well. In most areas of my life I am not a quitter. But music? Yeah, I'm a quitter.

Posted by: zombie at November 12, 2013 11:03 PM (+cx5n)

495 486 Why do I always end up here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qQnGfZpIfY

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2013 02:55 AM (T1005)

===

cuz it is a great tune?

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 11:04 PM (PlzOe)

496 493 Roses are red,
Strawberries are two,
And with raspberries making three,
May there be enough pie for all of you ..

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 13, 2013 03:00 AM (jdRXP)

===

You'll be needing some rhubarb.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 11:05 PM (PlzOe)

497 Hey Adriane. Hope you're well-ish.

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 11:07 PM (9gNQd)

498 You'll be needing some rhubarb. Great in pie! Interesting in poetry ... Fruit for dessert, though pie crust is mostly carbs, I'm thinking strawberry, myself ... With a bracing helping of rhubarb ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 12, 2013 11:08 PM (jdRXP)

499 495 I am humbled, awed, and ultimately demoralized when I see the masters of any instrument play.

I quit playing the piano the first time I saw a video of Errol Garner. That was it. Finito. Ultimate mastery had been achieved, and everything subsequent to his career would be a pathetic pale imitation.

Same was true for guitar. Once you see Joseph Spence, Jimi Hendrix et alia play, there's no real point in continuing your studies. Unless you were a natural-born genius, you will always be an incompetent struggling buffoon by comparison. So I quit even pretending to play stringed instruments as well.

In most areas of my life I am not a quitter. But music? Yeah, I'm a quitter.

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 03:03 AM (+cx5n)

My Silicon Valley ex-boss has a summer party/jam at his ranch every year. He has former coworkers fly in from New Jersey and Research Triangle to attend, and I'm probably the least musical among the attendees who play.....but it's still fun, and they put up with me (and even encourage) and it's a wonderful time. Music is meant to be shared.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 11:09 PM (T1005)

500 Once you see Joseph Spence, Jimi Hendrix et alia play, there's no real point in continuing your studies. Unless you were a natural-born genius, you will always be an incompetent struggling buffoon by comparison. So I quit even pretending to play stringed instruments as well.

In most areas of my life I am not a quitter. But music? Yeah, I'm a quitter.

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 03:03 AM

Hey, incompetent struggling buffoons get paid too. And the chicks don't care.

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 11:09 PM (9gNQd)

501 I'd be weller if the hubby hadn't decided to remodel the guest bathroom 2 weeks before the guests arrived. Been running on the hamster wheel for a crack addiction study ever since. But it was a fun visit and we're getting back to normal-ish. Very tired. How bout you?

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 12, 2013 11:12 PM (jdRXP)

502 Perhaps. But the original guitar style was more strummy -- guitars were considered a rhythm instrument until the early '40s -- and "lead guitar" style, which involved more detailed picking, didn't really emerge until the early '50s. And yet, of course, the standardization of guitar holding and chords was completely already set in stone much much earlier, back when the guitar was mostly just strummed as a rhythm instrument.

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 02:55 AM (+cx5n)

And waaay before that there was the lute, so the bass string locations and fingering was established at least as far back as the frigging dark ages. The lute came from the oud, and there is evidence of that existing on some 3000BC Mesopotamian cylinder seal, so you actually CAN say the pattern was indeed written in stone.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 12, 2013 11:13 PM (FMbng)

503 @ 491 [jc] -- Now that's an interesting suggestion, and it makes a lot of sense.

I seriously love playing the thing and spend a lot of my time just jangling chords for the pure sound of it. I'll occasionally stumble across a progression by accident and take off with it until I figure out what song I'm trying to play. In fact, the first song I ever taught myself to play in full was Led Zeppelin's version of "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You," and I did it by building chords on top of the walking bass line until it sounded right. That's when I got hooked.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 11:13 PM (m0h0I)

504 night, all ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 12, 2013 11:15 PM (jdRXP)

505 This guy (Tim Lerch) has a little tutorial on something he calls chord jabs that actually shows a really simple way to play 1-4-5 double stops with cool chord inversions on 7th chords. (Yes, that was actually English, although I think it was translated from the native language on Uranus.)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/lwlmvmf

anyway, I got a kick out of those double stops.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 11:17 PM (PlzOe)

506 Night, Adriane.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 11:18 PM (PlzOe)

507 I saw Romeo Void live at the Chestnut Cabaret in Philly... when the song was out... If you were fortunate enough to have a "Rock of the 80's" formatted station in your town, you heard this song plenty... As for these idiots who dabble in "revolution," I coined a term: "milettantes" It's a delightful portmanteau... a combination of militant and dilettante. You heard it here first, fuckers. I expect full credit. And I'm ornery, because I suspect that a New Yorker cartoonist contributor has ripped off one of my jokes from my OCT 11 Ferguson set. Pricks.

Posted by: Brian McKim at November 12, 2013 11:19 PM (NHK1D)

508

I'd be weller if the hubby hadn't decided to remodel the guest bathroom 2 weeks before the guests arrived.

Been running on the hamster wheel for a crack addiction study ever since.

But it was a fun visit and we're getting back to normal-ish.

Very tired.

How bout you?

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 13, 2013 03:12 AM

Ok, I guess. Shouldn't complain... though I will anyway. Starting to get hot. Spiders are coming in. Should get screens or something.

Really? Does the hamster wheel work for the crazk addiction. Just asking...

For a friend...

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 11:21 PM (9gNQd)

509 later, A.

Posted by: otho at November 12, 2013 11:22 PM (9gNQd)

510 504 @ 491 [jc] -- Now that's an interesting suggestion, and it makes a lot of sense.

I seriously love playing the thing and spend a lot of my time just jangling chords for the pure sound of it. I'll occasionally stumble across a progression by accident and take off with it until I figure out what song I'm trying to play. In fact, the first song I ever taught myself to play in full was Led Zeppelin's version of "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You," and I did it by building chords on top of the walking bass line until it sounded right. That's when I got hooked.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 13, 2013 03:13 AM (m0h0I)

===

With an ear that good you are going to have no trouble with this little adventure. Free Youtube lessons and some practice and you will be scaring the shit outa all of us in a year.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 11:22 PM (PlzOe)

511 462 >> I plan on going elk hunting next year with a buddy. Don't have a rifle of my own. Should I go 30-06, .300, or .308?

CC, there are certain loads for 30-06 that are rated for big game like elk. Still, a lot comes down to shot placement.

zombie, always great to see you in the comments.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 11:25 PM (wNF3N)

512 Muslim brother goes after his sister and her lover with a crowbar in Lincoln, NE:

http://tinyurl.com/oktaw3e (Daily Mail)

Moar love form the religion Of Pieces.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 11:30 PM (wNF3N)

513 Live long and perspire.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 12, 2013 11:32 PM (V4CBV)

514 I so look forward to listening to tomorrow's lies from the liar in chief. Maybe he will pull the ole dyslexia trick and say "I said, if you pike your lan, you can keep it."

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 11:33 PM (wNF3N)

515 and if you spike your bran you can seep it.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2013 11:36 PM (PlzOe)

516 @ 511 [jc] -- From your lips to God's ear. I'm actually set to do a little small community variety show about a year from now. I sang a karaoke version of a song after all the main performances were done at the one held this year and they invited me to join the show for next year. That's why I'm keen to learn more between now and then -- so I can put on an actual performance instead of just singing along to a karaoke track.

I'm making good progress, but my guitar skills are holding me back right now. And I'd like to have a fair-sized repertoire to pick from when the time comes around.

I've made it a self-improvement kind of goal. A couple of years ago, I wouldn't have dreamed of doing anything of the sort. Stage fright and all that. But, at the tender age of 44, I figure it's time I got over that and stepped out of my shell a bit.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 12, 2013 11:37 PM (m0h0I)

517 505 night, all ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 13, 2013 03:15 AM (jdRXP)

When it's late

And folks are sleepers

Adriane will state

She's closin' peepers

BURMA-SHAVE

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2013 11:38 PM (T1005)

518 Everyone remembers the Cash For Clunkers deal they set up to blow through $2 billion in our taxes, right? Well, The Mooch's Lets Move program is blowing more than double that amount. Not bad for n unelected, unappointed freeloader in the WH, eh?

Anyhoo, I think this program should be called Ass For Clunkers.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 11:40 PM (wNF3N)

519 So, as to recoil--is a .300 worth the extra recoil compared to a 30-06 or the .308? If you don't have significant experience with high powered rifles, I'd say no. A .300 Win Mag kicks hard, and if you start out with one it would be easy to develop a flinch. Just to make your decision more difficult, have you considered 7mm Mag? It's a versatile cartridge plenty adequate for elk with 180 grain rounds, more powerful than a .30-06, and not as punishing as a .300 mag.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 12, 2013 11:40 PM (X9Mnx)

520 Hey Gnu, thanks. I'm aware that placement is at least as important as the size/power of the cartridge. A 30-06 is probably more versatile overall, using a .300 Winchester on a smaller animal like mule deer might be overkill. Of course, I probably won't be content with just one rifle either...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 12, 2013 11:43 PM (b2cFu)

521 My lifetime record on deer is three shots, three dead animals. I used a lever action Winchester 30-30, sighted in for 100 yards. I've since upgraded to a Remington bolt 30-06.

The next deer I kill will be because the burning times have arrived.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2013 11:50 PM (wNF3N)

522 Hollowpoint, I've seen some stuff about 7 mm Mag, I'm guessing it's not that difficult a round to obtain since it's relatively common for hunting. I'll look into it, unfortunately work computers block all the fun sites. I may need to just spring for a .22LR off the bat as well for practice to get down the basics, but I imagine whichever rifle I end up using will also need several hundred rounds put through it at a minimum so I can get acquainted with it.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 12, 2013 11:53 PM (b2cFu)

523 The next deer I kill will be because the burning times have arrived. Posted by: GnuBreed I think the looming disintegration will more accurately be characterized as "The Shooting Times" rather than the harder-to-visualize "Burning Times." Yeah, a lot of shootin'. Deer. Looters. Hobos. Scurrying urchins. Cloned mammoths that break free from their Siberian Safari Park and rampage across the frozen Bering Straight (new Ice Age, doncha know) all the way back down to Wilshire Boulevard to which they are inexplicably yet inevitably drawn. Surveillance drones. Douchebag trustafarians. Sumatran rats.

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 12:03 AM (+cx5n)

524 A Hollywood producer just read my comment and offered me $8 millions for the rights to the script. "The Shooting Times" starts filming in January. The sequel, "Shooting Times Reloaded: The Gatling Years" is already in a bidding war.

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 12:03 AM (+cx5n)

525 >> A Hollywood producer just read my comment and offered me $8 millions for the rights to the script. "The Shooting Times" starts filming in January.

Just remember the little people here that helped, or at least didn't depants you here. We expect a gala invite to opening day, along with an open bar.

That's not asking a lot.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2013 12:09 AM (wNF3N)

526 526 GnuBreed OK -- how about you get "Executive Producer" credit, 3% of overseas rentals, the t-shirt concession, and four tickets to the Golden Globes After-Orgy? Deal?

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 12:12 AM (+cx5n)

527 Gnu, that's a suck deal. Everyone knows that the MTV movie awards has the best orgy.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 13, 2013 12:14 AM (b2cFu)

528 Sigh -- if you insist, I'll let your nephew direct "Shooting Times III: Rise of the Robo-Snipers." But that's my final offer!

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 12:16 AM (+cx5n)

529 >> OK -- how about you get "Executive Producer" credit, 3% of overseas rentals, the t-shirt concession, and four tickets to the Golden Globes After-Orgy? Deal?

>> Gnu, that's a suck deal. Everyone knows that the MTV movie awards has the best orgy.

zombie, after consulting a doctor, it looks like I need you to add in a trip to the MTV awards as well. As he well knows, an MTV orgy will probably kill me so I'll put you both in my will., and die smiling.

Damn, this Hollywood wheeling and dealing is tough.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2013 12:18 AM (wNF3N)

530 OK OK, MTV tix as well. Why the hell not. Just so long as you realize that "Robo-Snipers" will be considered the dud of the series. I don't want to raise expectations here. We're bringing in a Hong Kong director to re-launch the series with a whole new look and style in "Shooting Times IV: Rain of Lead." Lotta scenes in near blackness, punctuated by 3D surround-sound of bullets shredding everything around you. Very realistic. Tokyo Disney will is scheduled to premiere the "Rain of Lead" ride in the summer of 2016. People are already camped out in line.

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 12:24 AM (+cx5n)

531 Oh, and could you introduce me to Sean Penn? I'd really like to give him a crushing knee to his family jewels for being such a commie dirtbag. Then I'd offer to fetch him some ice if he'd hand over his Che t-shirt to use.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2013 12:26 AM (wNF3N)

532 The funny thing is, zombie, is that a well plotted end of the world series might do really well. Sort of a modern version of a wild west flick.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2013 12:29 AM (wNF3N)

533 533 GnuBreed Haven't there already been several of those? Kevin Costner's "The Postman." "A Boy and His Dog" from 1975. "The Book of Eli" with Denzel Washington. Various zombie flix. The whole Mad Max series. Plenty of others, I'm sure. Most of which have seriously failed to live up to expectations.

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 12:33 AM (+cx5n)

534

Money quote--"The rapture missed only one thing--me."

Posted by: Conservative Crank at November 13, 2013 12:34 AM (b2cFu)

535 534 So?

Always room for another one, if well done. Or as Jeantel might put it:

Thas old skool. We new skool now.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2013 12:37 AM (wNF3N)

536 Ha! Here is the plot summary of Costner's "The Postman" which came out in 1997. Note the year it takes place in: 2013! How much of Costner's vision came true? (See bolded sections): "In the year 2013 civilization has all but destroyed itself. After a war that decimated the government and most of the population of the United States (possibly the world) people struggle to survive against starvation and rogue groups of armed men. One such group is called the Holnists. This group is bigger than any other and their leader, General Bethlehem, has delusions of ruling the country. A drifter is captured by the group and forced to join. He escapes at the first chance and happens on a mail jeep with a skeleton in it. The skeleton is wearing a postal uniform and the drifter takes it to keep him warm. He also finds a mailbag and starts conning people with old letters. The hope he sees in the people he delivers to changes his plans and he decides that he must help bring the Holnists down."

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 12:38 AM (+cx5n)

537 >> The whole Mad Max series.

That's the creme of the crop. If necessary, just claim "it's a homage".

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2013 12:40 AM (wNF3N)

538 Ambien is winning, so to pass out I must go.

G'nite all.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2013 12:43 AM (wNF3N)

539 Later Gnu. We got the watch

Posted by: Zakn at November 13, 2013 12:46 AM (Bvf82)

540 Here is a GREAT list of end-of-the-world, post-apocolyptic movies: http://www.imdb.com/list/8tj432RN-IQ/ Of those, the real standout for me is "The Quiet Earth," a very chilling and well-made New Zealand movie produced on almost no budget. Anyway, what will distinguish the "Shooting Times" series (Executive Producer: GnuBreed) is that it will have MUCH much more shootin' than all those other girly films.

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2013 12:47 AM (+cx5n)

541 Oh, people who live in my boxes! (That cost me $112 to get hooked back up again to the intarwebz on a post-dated check!) Whoa! Whoa! Woe is me! I went, hat in hand, last week, to the Salvation Army & the County for rental assistance. (I got it.) Had to bring in my Dad who, APPARENTLY has $730 in SS Payments every month that he has not thought fit to apply towards pretty much ANY DAMN bill since fucking JUNE! He also, has signed up for $160 p/m (I hope) some sort of Herba-Life bullshit MLM pyramid scheme around an energy drink called "Veema". I'd even be happy to float that kind of bullshit, any other day, in his senescence but I find it hard to swallow when we were just in COURT and got AN EVICTION NOTICE last fucking week! I know it's my Dad but honestly, I am scared and I think that I might do better to keep my car and phone, so's I can keep making money. He is also kind of a monster, if you think about it... Apparently, he never paid even the fucking Electric Bills since fucking May...

Posted by: Deety at November 13, 2013 12:54 AM (3XUU4)

542 513 GnuBreed, Just another charming cultural ingredient Choom King thanks Allah we venerate "as a Muslim nation."

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2013 01:05 AM (9jfyN)

543 What the fuck do I care about TV? I work evenings M-F and I don't give a shit about Live Sporting Events... Soo...

Posted by: Deety at November 13, 2013 01:17 AM (3XUU4)

544 Photos of Nicolas Cage and his ex-girlfriend Christina Fulton engaged in sexual activity were allegedly stolen from her home earlier this year and have yet to be recovered. Don't the cops have better things to do than look for celebrity nude photos and sex tapes?

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 13, 2013 01:22 AM (kkbgQ)

545 544 Deety at November 13, 2013 05:17 AM (3XUU4)

You'll find you're a lot happier. I buy series if they interest me, I have cultivated a pretty compelling DVD collection and am content in knowing I am not part of Glee nation...

you can't be prepared to be a refugee if you are still immersed in "home's culture."

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2013 01:23 AM (9jfyN)

546 545 Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at November 13, 2013 05:22 AM (kkbgQ)

You have to wonder if old Nic leaked the Borf Neen Torgen tape to improve his Q rating?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2013 01:24 AM (9jfyN)

547 No wonder they kept her behind closed doors all these years. http://tinyurl.com/kr86r39 She's compressed in the weirdest ways as Dr. Evil.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 13, 2013 02:08 AM (MhA4j)

548 548 panzernashorn at November 13, 2013 06:08 AM (MhA4j)

Well it turns out Lt Worf was not lying when she said "Barack is gonna make YOU work..."

want to maintain your QoL post Ogabe care?

Get a 2d job comrade...

The JFK conspiracy theory crowd is afoot at Tepid this AM
....

http://tinyurl.com/p3wphn7

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2013 02:18 AM (9jfyN)

549 You know Obama's going to be blaming others for whatever his faults are; therein his "persistence". From a Congressman, one of those elected to write and vote on laws, Rep. Kurt Schrader, a Democrat from Oregon, now says that President Obama was "grossly misleading" on Obamacare. But Schrader, third term Representative who VOTED for it wasn't grossly misleading the Americans? Obama demanded ACA but never wrote anything consequential in his life, always relying on Ayers and speech writers. Produce a dissertation, treatise, or even just an essay by Obama to prove otherwise. Don't accept the man-eater, regardless of how many facelifts it is given. http://tinyurl.com/p2gquxy House Conservatives File a Brief Challenging Legality of O-Care Posted by Jim Hoft Pacific Legal Foundation is in the D.C. Court of Appeals fighting to put an end to Obamacare in a case titled Sissel v. U.S. DepÂ’t of Health & Human Services. The lawsuit challenges the heart of the law Â— the individual mandate and tax Â— as unconstitutional. PLF believes the law is illegal and unconstitutional. Pacific Legal FoundationÂ’s legal challenge to Obamacare received important backing in the form of an amicus brief filed by Congressman Trent Franks, R-Arizona, Chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, joined by several dozen other members of the House.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 13, 2013 02:23 AM (MhA4j)

550 Well sven, JFK was assassinated. No one should be arguing that point as if a theory these days. Judge's article wasn't drawing my attention this morning. Dulles: CIA, fired, Warren Commission. Gnaw on that bone of contention.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 13, 2013 02:34 AM (MhA4j)

551 I get up to find incomprehensible Sven and irrepressible Panz rattling among the empties and ashtrays. At least, being both, I fit in.

Posted by: mindful webworker - doyougotwebworks? at November 13, 2013 02:37 AM (MBZW0)

552 'morning, mindful.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 13, 2013 02:39 AM (MhA4j)

553 and by 'being both,' I mean empty and ashen. G'morning, Panz. I'd like to think court challenges could bring down Ocare, but as long as we have enough voters (and judges) incapable of grasping fundamentals of Liberty or Responsibility... Wait, wait, I'm not awake enough for this yet.

Posted by: mindful webworker - doyougotwebworks? at November 13, 2013 02:43 AM (MBZW0)

554 Mornin mindful, coffee is over there

Posted by: Zakn at November 13, 2013 02:45 AM (Bvf82)

555 Missed 1st on the morning thread by thismuch!

Posted by: mindful webworker - doyougotwebworks? at November 13, 2013 02:50 AM (2o9a+)

556 Yesterday, my oh my. Congressional Democrats gave Obama a 72-hour ultimatum to fix ACA, or the Dems would back the GOP fix. -- The Kelly Files http://tinyurl.com/mts9w93 pfft -- at re-election, "We demanded the monster we created be fixed by Obama, or by the GOP." Hell with McCain's league of gopper flopper revisionists. Stick with R-AZ Trent Franks and the Pacific Legal Foundation. Join with THAT constitutional movement; repeal the damnable ACA.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 13, 2013 02:50 AM (MhA4j)

557 Hey guys, Has the US dollar crashed yet? With all this printing of 'Dead Presidents" going on and the moves by China to dethrone the USD as a worlds reserve currency going on, I just had to ask.

Posted by: Lying_Preznit_Bamster at November 13, 2013 05:18 AM (hA3sx)

558 I'd agree that Leonard Nimoy has led a very full and interesting life aside from playing Spock. But I submit that a lot of those things (directing movies, having a gallery display his photography, donating $1 million here and there) could never have come about if he'd stayed a cab driver who occasionally taught acting, as he did before "Star Trek."

The role of Spock was his break; and he's smart enough to know it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 13, 2013 06:00 AM (BDU/a)

559 I'd agree that Leonard Nimoy has led a very full and interesting life aside from playing Spock. But I submit that a lot of those things (directing movies, having a gallery display his photography, donating $1 million here and there) could never have come about if he'd stayed a cab driver who occasionally taught acting, as he did before "Star Trek."

The role of Spock was his break; and he's smart enough to know it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 13, 2013 06:00 AM (BDU/a)

560 216 looking good for being 100 or even 60 , shatner, kinda lookin' rough

http://www.barbaraluna.com/friends1.html
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Yeah, well, Shatner's 83 this year. That's a lot of rings on his trunk.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 13, 2013 06:09 AM (BDU/a)

561 Honest question. Do the Cruz backers think the government shutdown was "worth it" for losing the state of Virginia? I don't. Cruz was being selfish self-promoter, and it cost fellow conservatives.

Posted by: Bing at November 13, 2013 07:12 AM (Wqd8O)

562 "I'm not buying Vagisil. Ever"

She probably is one of those chicks not into Ban, Secret, or grooming her girly areas.

Posted by: Wendy at November 13, 2013 07:26 AM (4uSYN)

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