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November 20, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (11-20-2013)
— Maetenloch

Militarily the 1942 raid was almost negligible but psychologically it was a huge blow to the Japanese sense of invulnerability as well as a giant boost to American morale.

Coming just a few months after Pearl harbor the raid showed that the US could still touch even the most cherished and protected areas of Japan. Of course the raid itself was high risk, primarily based on surprise and was a one-way trip for the crews who couldn't return to the carriers once they took off. Most flew another 8 hours after their bomb run and ended up crash landing or bailing out over China during the night. It's estimated that the Japanese killed 250,000 Chinese civilians during their attempt to find all the downed US airmen.

Doolittle and his crew, after parachuting into China, received assistance from Chinese soldiers and civilians as well as John Birch, an American missionary in China. As did the others who participated in the mission, Doolittle had to bail out but fortunately landed in a heap of dung (saving a previously injured ankle from breaking) in a paddy in China near Quzhou. Doolittle felt the raid had been a terrible failure because all the aircraft were lost, and he expected to be court-martialed on his return. He subsequently recommended Birch for intelligence work with Claire Chennault's Flying Tigers.

One crewman, Corporal Leland D. Faktor, flight engineer/gunner with Gray, was killed during his bailout attempt over China, the only man in that crew to be lost. Two crews (10 men) were missing.

Eventually all of the crewmen were accounted for including 3 who were captured and executed by the Japanese.

Today there are only four left and they were honored last week at the National Museum of the Air Force in Dayton, Ohio.

Last week, the few survivors still able - Doolittle's Crew #1 copilot, then-lieutenant Richard Cole; Crew 15 flight engineer, then-sergeant Ed Saylor who would retire as a Lt. Colonel, and Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo author Ted Lawson's Crew 7 "The Ruptured Duck" engineer/gunner then-sergeant David Thatcher, sipped brandy from a ceremonial bottle [of Hennessy cognac from 1896, the year of his birth] that Doolittle had sourced some sixty years ago. The tradition was that the last man standing would drink the bottle; in the 1940s no one expected four of the raid survivors to survive into their 90s. (The fourth, Crew 16 "Bat out of Hell" co-pilot then-2nd-Lt. Robert Hite, who was captured by the Japanese after the raid, was too unwell to attend; he participated from home).

Here is a photo of Richard Cole (front right) posing with Doolittle and his crew before the mission and one of Robert Hite after his capture by the Japanese. He toasted his comrades remotely during the ceremony.

Heh

There's Dumb and Then There's Texas Feminist Dumb

So when will we stop the great antibiotic genocide?

Canadian Nanny State: Mother fined $10 for not including crackers in kids' school lunch

Even though it was a healthy meal containing leftover homemade roast beef and potatoes, carrots, an orange and some milk.

Also What Chinese Students Think of Typical American Foods

Apparently classic Southern fare does not sit well on the Chinese tongue - as opposed to say snake or fermented eggs.

It's Easy Being a Psychic/Creepy Stalker in the Social Media Age

Because people are unclear on the concept of public posts on social media.

Life Lessons From George Costanza

Well if you're unhappy where your choices have taken you, maybe it is time for a little Opposite George.

Your Bodyclock and Pre-Stressing

There's evidence you can will yourself to wake on time, too. Sleep scientists at Germany's University of Lubeck asked 15 volunteers to sleep in their lab for three nights. One night, the group was told they'd be woken at 6 a.m., while on other nights the group was told they'd be woken at 9 a.m.

But the researchers lied-they woke the volunteers at 6 a.m anyway. And the results were startling. The days when sleepers were told they'd wake up early, their stress hormones increased at 4:30 a.m., as if they were anticipating an early morning. When the sleepers were told they'd wake up at 9 a.m., their stress hormones didn't increase -- and they woke up groggier. "Our bodies, in other words, note the time we hope to begin our day and gradually prepare us for consciousness," writes Jeff Howe at Psychology Today.

"narrow leather straps, drawn taut, so when he dances..." and video here.

ISIS Training Film #4155: Gun Safety

For all you Archer fans out there.

Teh Tweet!

Le AoSHQ groupe de Yahoo. Ooh la la!

Tonight's post brought to you by a Doolittle Raid B-25B bomber taking off on the morning of April 18th 1942:

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Posted by: Maetenloch at 05:20 PM | Comments (1046)
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1 First?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 05:22 PM (bCEmE)

2 Ok, now to read....

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 05:22 PM (bCEmE)

3 Last

Posted by: grease monkey at November 20, 2013 05:22 PM (qQk+U)

4 Notfirst!

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Flying Toaster Circus at November 20, 2013 05:24 PM (m9V0o)

5 I suppose then that Marcunt must now remove any objections to any war, since any war would kill less than Billions?

Do I have that right?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 20, 2013 05:25 PM (lh89W)

6
Too early.
Call back later.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 20, 2013 05:26 PM (BUcLz)

7 Yo morons

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 05:26 PM (HVff2)

8 Canadian Nanny State: Mother fined $10 for not including crackers in kids' school lunch Even though it was a healthy meal containing leftover homemade roast beef and potatoes, carrots, an orange and some milk. ===== Good grief! Ritz crackers needed to be added to that lunch?! Ritz fuckin' crackers!? Govts. don't know shit about nutrition but they THINK they do.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 05:27 PM (bCEmE)

9 Excellent post Maet

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 05:29 PM (GEICT)

NINE!

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 20, 2013 05:29 PM (lq3Ak)

11 So hai.

Dubya Bush is a painter now? I wonder if he was inspired by President Joe "Not Sure" from Idiocracy. Or if it was the other way 'round.

An average-IQ guy in charge of a nation of an electorate too stupid to be trusted with the national franchise... yeah, that would be him. As 2012 has proven.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 20, 2013 05:29 PM (Nsoq9)

12 When I was 10 or 11, I received a copy of "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo". I still have it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 05:30 PM (aDwsi)

13 Hornady 30.06 $24.99, no .357 mag @ farm & fleet tonight. Dam I will be light out in the woods come Saturday morning

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 05:30 PM (HVff2)

14 SMH at that abortion-loving bitch's tweets. Placing a higher value on human life than on bacterial life is not even a matter of religious beliefs or philosophical views. It's simply a matter of survival. Biology, plain and simple. Howdy morons and 'ettes.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 05:31 PM (zDsvJ)

15 Amanda Marcotte just aborted some of my brain cells.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 05:31 PM (lVPtV)

16 As was commented in that The Other McCain link: Amanda Marcotte can her ilk can say such asinine things and still be considered part of the "Party of Science"?

Posted by: Thrawn at November 20, 2013 05:32 PM (ZyqBH)

17 "Catching Fire" will be debuting at 8 PM tomorrow in some theatres. http://tinyurl.com/mvvt8gr

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 20, 2013 05:33 PM (Nsoq9)

18 Placing a higher value on human life than on bacterial life is not even a matter of religious beliefs or philosophical views. It's simply a matter of survival.

How about likely-conservative life versus likely-moocher.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 20, 2013 05:34 PM (Nsoq9)

19 Hornady 30.06 $24.99 Make it one-shot, one-kill.

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2013 05:34 PM (QupBk)

Maet, I usually don't see the ONT at night but look at it first thing in the morning (and often run late because of it!). You do a stellar job.

Just saw this before going off to beddy-bye. Tomorrow should be an interesting day for Cruella.

http://bit.ly/1aSEUoY

Posted by: RushBabe at November 20, 2013 05:34 PM (hrIP5)

21 Is that body clock study a surprise to anyone? 'Cause I'm pretty much able to wake myself up when I want to, within half an hour or so. Sleeping through the night, not so much. But waking up on time, yeah.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 05:34 PM (zDsvJ)

22 Can't wait to see "Lone Survivor." Heard Beck describing going to the screening with Marcus Lutrell, fellow SEALs, and Brad Thor. Said it was the best war movie ever.

And Marcus said the movie was 100% spot on.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 05:35 PM (lVPtV)

23 I especially like the cutesy font on the "We're fining you" note. Apparently, the revolution will not only be televised, it will have happy songs and an amusing animal mascot.

Posted by: Secundus at November 20, 2013 05:35 PM (HqzLX)

24 Evening morons! 6 straight days of work starting in the morning, but welfare checks won't make me a 1%er.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at November 20, 2013 05:35 PM (ZRv7F)

25 Canada looks unlivable. Sad.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 05:36 PM (zDsvJ)

26 Of course the raid itself was high risk, primarily based on surprise and was a one-way trip for the crews who couldn't return to the carriers once they took off.

Way I understand it, the planes planned to land at specified airfields in China, but a Jap patrol boat discovered the carrier group before it arrived at the planned launch position. Doolittle elected to take off immediately in order to prevent defensive preparation after the Mainland received the patrol boat's warning.

The early launch is what caused the inability to reach the Chinese airfields as planned - and Doolittle's sense of failure when all the planes were lost.

Posted by: Handcuffed to the Bumper of a State Trooper's Ford at November 20, 2013 05:36 PM (aeVIR)

27 Dubya Bush is a painter now? I wonder if he was inspired by President Joe "Not Sure" from Idiocracy. Or if it was the other way 'round.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo

He said in the Leno interview he read Churchill's work on painting.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 05:37 PM (KVY+w)

28 Sleeping through the night, not so much. But waking up on time, yeah. Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 09:34 PM (zDsvJ) Not this Moron. I need multiple alarms to wake my sleepy ass up.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 05:37 PM (GEICT)

29 I haven't used an alarm clock in years. I wake up on my own when I need to. On weekends I wake up around 8. On weekdays, around 6. Amazing how the body works.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 05:38 PM (dfLY4)

30 I miss Laura Bush. Remember when we had a classy, intelligent, First Lady?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 05:38 PM (lVPtV)

31 Badasses Total American badasses

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 05:38 PM (zOTsN)

32
My friends, I'm planning on running for president again, and with a little tweaking around the edges, I will beat Hillary by a wide margin.

Posted by: John F'n McCain at November 20, 2013 05:38 PM (pJF+c)

33 As a devout Seinfeld fan I can only say this whole clusterfart of a failure that is Obamacare brings to mind the movie "Prognosis Negative." If that doesn't sum up what we are all in for I don't know what does.

Posted by: Molly k. at November 20, 2013 05:39 PM (MjXTb)

34 Good on you Maet for keeping the Raiders visible.

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2013/11/a-final-toast.html

Like AllenG I think I have a blog so wrote of the final toast of the three Raiders. Toujours au Danger.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 05:39 PM (BXhlo)

35 You people are all racists. How dare you disrespect our Chosen One??

Posted by: Oprah! at November 20, 2013 05:40 PM (lVPtV)

36 Chosen One or Chosin Won?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 05:41 PM (BXhlo)

37 During the intro to the Caps v. Pens hockey game, the announcers (NBC) said the following:

"Welcome to the nation's capital, where at least the hockey team's website is working."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The sports world has gone from having the Baltimore Ravens pitching ObamaCare to having NBC mocking it at a Caps game.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 20, 2013 05:41 PM (+YFcy)

38 Wow, Amanda Marcotte... That's nuclear grade stupid right there.

Posted by: deadrody at November 20, 2013 05:42 PM (+Dpo7)

39 Hey, Wassup? And wassup with $10 dollars for Ritz crackers? I bet they didn't even have the peanut butter centers.

Posted by: USA at November 20, 2013 05:42 PM (VIaw0)

40 Hmmmm ........ Doesn't log prof live in Manitoba ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 20, 2013 05:42 PM (XWw96)

41 Thanks Orca doin my best.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at November 20, 2013 05:42 PM (P/f6c)

42 Surviving Doolittle Raiders should commemorate by bombing the shit out of something else. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Cicero Kid read 'Thirty seconds over tokyo' twice while in jr. High. at November 20, 2013 05:42 PM (6fSty)

43 I hope the kid involved threw the Ritz Crackers on the floor and screamed "I love potatoes"

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 05:42 PM (CMlD4)

44 That's beautiful WN!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 05:42 PM (GEICT)

45 >>Not this Moron. I need multiple alarms to wake my sleepy ass up. I still use an alarm, but I usually wake up before it goes off. I will say that the kind of sleep I get the night before I need to get up for something important is not as restful.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 05:43 PM (zDsvJ)

46 Someone inform Ms Marcotte that bacteria do not have a soul. Stupid scrunt in need of a punt

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 05:43 PM (zOTsN)

47 I use my phone to wake me up. Sometimes I forget to silence it and some asshole actually wakes me up before 0630. I hate that. We will never again be as good as the America that fought WW2.

Posted by: EROWMER at November 20, 2013 05:43 PM (OONaw)

48 Post needs more ocelot.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 20, 2013 05:44 PM (Gk3SS)

49 John Ekdahl and Ace pointed this out stompy-foot piece on teh Twitters: Obamacare Shows How Americans Are Becoming Jerks http://tinyurl.com/la468jx Yep, if you wisely notice that the government is ill-equipped to provide even basic items, you're a "jerk" and you don't care. Because forcing millions off their insurance plans to subsidize others is "caring" or something. I hate these fools with a perfect hatred.

Posted by: Thrawn at November 20, 2013 05:44 PM (ZyqBH)

50 36 During the intro to the Caps v. Pens hockey game, the announcers (NBC) said the following:

"Welcome to the nation's capital, where at least the hockey team's website is working."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The sports world has gone from having the Baltimore Ravens pitching ObamaCare to having NBC mocking it at a Caps game.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 20, 2013 09:41 PM (+YFcy)

...............................

That's a great story but I'm guessing considering this is NBC that there will be 2 announcers out of a job tomorrow. They should have stuck with a joke that referenced shitting in someones mouth, they would have been better off/

Posted by: Molly k. at November 20, 2013 05:44 PM (MjXTb)

51 41 Surviving Doolittle Raiders should commemorate by bombing the shit out of something else. Any suggestions?

Tapes mouth shut. Shoots bird to NSA.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 05:44 PM (lVPtV)

52 Who in heck is designing the Canadians' school menus? On what planet is a Ritz cracker considered more nutritional than a potato?

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 05:44 PM (zDsvJ)

53 Chosen One or Chosin Won? Posted by: Anna -------------------- That's it. I'm enabling the pun filter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 05:44 PM (aDwsi)

54 24 Canada looks unlivable. Sad. Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 09:36 PM (zDsvJ) ________ You don't think that shit happens here too? You're kidding yourself.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 05:45 PM (dfLY4)

55 Surviving Doolittle Raiders should commemorate by bombing the shit out of something else. Any suggestions? Posted by: Cicero Kid read 'Thirty seconds over tokyo' twice while in jr. High ------------------------------ At their age, they just deserve to get bombed. And judging from the picture, they have the right stuff in hand. They did their part, in spades. But I'd volunteer for the next inland mission. RAMMING SPEEEED!!! **toasts**

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 05:45 PM (4Mv1T)

56 I am sure our president acknowledged Doolittle's Raiders in some way. Right?

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 05:46 PM (zOTsN)

57 51 Who in heck is designing the Canadians' school menus? On what planet is a Ritz cracker considered more nutritional than a potato?

Potatoes are fattening!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mooch "Let Them Drink Water" Oblablah at November 20, 2013 05:46 PM (lVPtV)

58 As someone who is pro-choice I have to say Amanda Marcotte's tweet is beyond imbecilic.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 05:46 PM (dfLY4)

59 >>> Post needs more ocelot Got any more chupacabras? The last batch was delicious.

Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2013 05:47 PM (xDGmz)

60 47 Post needs more ocelot. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 20, 2013 09:44 PM (Gk3SS) WhaÂ…whaÂ…whaaaat????

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 05:47 PM (GEICT)

61 I wonder if Amanda Marcotte ever washes her hands with antibacterial soap?

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 05:47 PM (k55Fc)

62 TCM is just starting Judgement at Nuremberg starring Burt Lancaster, Judy Garland, Spencer Tracey, and William Shatner.

And on November 20th, 1945 the actual Nuremberg Trials started.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 05:47 PM (BXhlo)

63 I am sure our president acknowledged Doolittle's Raiders in some way. Right? Posted by: Thunderb ----------------- What do I care about some Brit dude talking to animals?

Posted by: Barky at November 20, 2013 05:47 PM (aDwsi)

64 USS Hornet, CV-8.

The third of the Yorktown class, and only constructed because the Treaty limitations for warship class tonnages had expired and the plans for the Essex class were not ready, so the USN ordered a repeat Yorktown to get another carrier.*

*The remains of the Treaty carrier tonnage were expended with the USS WASP, a small ship and the limitations of her were too obvious when she was torpedoed. Only USS Enterprise of that class survived the war (and was the essential carrier - and only carrier - in the Pacific. Fun Fact: Enterprise came out with a lot of engine defects and some cost overruns to get them to work right. But her history...)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Jeers and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2013 05:47 PM (gmoEG)

65 Last night's Minotaur 1 launch from Wallops Island orbited a satellite for the Air Force plus 28 cubesats. That is the most satellites ever launched on a single rocket. Since last night's launch, I've been reading about cubesats. They're very interesting. Here are some links about cubesats. First is NASA's page explaining its program: http://tinyurl.com/ll2cqd5 Here's CubeSat.org's main page: http://cubesat.org/ See the "Mission Statement" under the "About Us" heading. They were invented as an educational tool. Science and engineering students can get hands-on experience designing, building, testing, and launching real satellites. Here's a partial list of the cubesats launched on Tuesday. Click "More info" on the right and it takes you to the various university sites. http://tinyurl.com/kesr4cr The military is also interested in them as a means to quickly and cheaply deploy satellites for specific missions on short notice. Cubesats are built to standardized sizes and are deployed with what is basically a metal box with a spring in it. These are small and lightweight, about the size of a breadbox, and can fit in the payload compartment of almost any rocket. http://tinyurl.com/l36kvkv http://tinyurl.com/loahrcl

Posted by: rickl at November 20, 2013 05:48 PM (sdi6R)

66 Who in heck is designing the Canadians' school menus? On what planet is a Ritz cracker considered more nutritional than a potato?

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 09:44 PM (zDsvJ)

Ten calories a pop. Just what every kid needs. "Here, Johnny-- we're going to fill you up with carbohydrates and then Ritalin you to death when you can't sit still. Won't that be fun?"

Posted by: Secundus at November 20, 2013 05:48 PM (HqzLX)

67 Post needs more ocelot. I couldn't help but notice the complete absence of robots tonight.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 20, 2013 05:48 PM (QupBk)

68 47 Post needs more ocelot --------- The coverage has been spotty.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 05:48 PM (aDwsi)

69 But waking up on time, yeah.

I hate it when I startle wake myself five minutes before I need to wake up. I want those five more minutes.

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 05:49 PM (k55Fc)

70 Got any more chupacabras? The last batch was delicious.Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2013 09:47 PM (xDGmz fluffy sorry I just sent the rest of the chupacabras to BC.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 20, 2013 05:49 PM (Gk3SS)

71 I wonder how many years in federal prison a person would get for throat punching John McCain?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 20, 2013 05:50 PM (oFCZn)

72 For AtC:

http://tinyurl.com/kp93pvj

(baby ocelot)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 05:50 PM (lVPtV)

73 OT The older twin got notified of being accepted to Baylor. He also landed a 64k over 4 yrs scholarship and was invited to apply for another scholarship which would not only have guaranteed admission to Baylor's law school but would have an additional 10k. Kid's applying for 3 other scholarships and probably has some guaranteed from Debate Organizations. Yay, right? Spouse's response is "A&M is cheaper. Can't he just go there? How do they compare ratings wise? Why should we spend that money? How's he going to pay the difference?" And I see his point. Baylor is wildly above what we are able to spend but I'd like to celebrate the kid's achievement for a little while and see where he ends up with these other scholarships. He has a while before he has to claim his spot. I know, I know, everything will be better if I just calm down and quit being emotional.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at November 20, 2013 05:50 PM (fzFF6)

74 Who's that getting zapped?

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 20, 2013 05:50 PM (QupBk)

75 I have two furry alarms that wake me everyday, without fail, at 6 am, to be fed.

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 05:51 PM (zOTsN)

76 For those of you who think the Canada lunch story is only in Canada...think again http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8762

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 05:51 PM (dfLY4)

77 Wait .. zapped ... BY A ROBOT! My evening is complete.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 20, 2013 05:51 PM (QupBk)

78 "I am sure our president acknowledged Doolittle's Raiders in some way. Right?"

The only Doolittle Barky will acknowledge is Eddie Murphy's performance of Dr. Doolittle. Blood is thicker than water after all.

Posted by: grease monkey at November 20, 2013 05:51 PM (qQk+U)

79 I dreamed we launched a shit ton of Muslims into space. Was it just a dream?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 05:52 PM (lVPtV)

80 I have in my garage a US Navy WW2 film of the attack. Mother worked in Navy during war and they were going to throw away all the old reels of film. I have ten. I also have an old 35 mm projector. Have not viewed them in 30 years, my bet, they have gone bad. They are all in medal tins.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 05:52 PM (0FSuD)

81 fluffy sorry I just sent the rest of the chupacabras to BC. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 20, 2013 09:49 PM (Gk3SS) Sweet. Thanks. Ok, so that's 3 to McCain's office. 3 to McConnell. 3 to Boner. Aaaand a bakers dozen to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 05:52 PM (GEICT)

82 Baylor is a great school! Congrats. Don't forget there may be work study too

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 05:53 PM (zOTsN)

May I request a new thread on Ann Coulter's new weekly column (which I have not read in its entirety) defending Alex Baldwin?

Maybe I missed something.

Posted by: mallfly at November 20, 2013 05:53 PM (LIEbV)

84 >>> fluffy sorry I just sent the rest of the chupacabras to BC. BCoch, make sure she included taco sauce.

Posted by: fluffonutta at November 20, 2013 05:53 PM (xDGmz)

85 Congrats Rags!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 05:53 PM (GEICT)

86 The half-dozen or crews of the deck that day must have had some puckered backsides. Through the windscreen it would have looked sorta like taking off from your back porch.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 20, 2013 05:53 PM (5xfYX)

87 @78 I take it back they are 70 mm and so is my projector. The 35 is for my Dad's old film.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 05:54 PM (0FSuD)

88 81 May I request a new thread on Ann Coulter's new weekly column (which I have not read in its entirety) defending Alex Baldwin?

Wut?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 05:54 PM (lVPtV)

89 I love that quote about blaming Gordon Lightfoot.. perfect! I will definitely steal that!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2013 05:54 PM (b/lt+)

90 Re my #64: I forgot to mention that today's cubesats are more sophisticated than the first satellite, Sputnik 1, which required a military superpower using the world's largest rocket to send it into orbit in 1957.

Posted by: rickl at November 20, 2013 05:54 PM (sdi6R)

91 Mikey, you forget USS Saratoga (CV-3) which survived the whole Pacific campaign. But she had the bad habit of collecting torpedoes in the early days of the war. Missed Midway because of torpedo repairs.

USS Hornet ( CV-8 ) was not a true Yorktown class carrier. She was slightly bigger with greater tonnage. Most noticeable change was in her island which differed from that of Yorktown and Enterprise. But she was run off as a gap-filler as you said because the Essex ( CV-9 ) was not ready yet - she would not make it to the Pacific until early 1943.

After loss of USS Wasp ( CV-7 ) to I-boat launched Long Lance torpedoes while refueling planes, Ranger ( CV-4), being the other baby carrier, was kept in the Atlantic.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 05:54 PM (BXhlo)

92 81 May I request a new thread on Ann Coulter's new weekly column (which I have not read in its entirety) defending Alex Baldwin? Maybe I missed something. Posted by: mallfly at November 20, 2013 09:53 PM (LIEbV) _____________ She's an attention whore, and does what it takes to keep herself in the news. She also defended RomneyCare and is Christie's BFF and dated Bill Maher (yes THAT Bill Maher).

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 05:54 PM (dfLY4)

93 "narrow leather straps, drawn taut, so when he dances" -------------- Yeah, I admit I clicked on that.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2013 05:54 PM (dfYL9)

94 "First" half dozen or so......

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 20, 2013 05:54 PM (5xfYX)

95 Bombers? I thought the Doolittle Raid was conducted from the back of a giant snail.

Posted by: Rex Harrison at November 20, 2013 05:54 PM (KLy64)

96 Strong thumbs up for the social media vid. Show it to your kids.

Posted by: RS at November 20, 2013 05:55 PM (YAGV/)

97 Marcotte seems unaware that her body naturally slaughters bacteria by the millions every day. What a completely useless bag of cells she is. BTW, microbe poetry sucks.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 05:55 PM (AO9UG)

98

What's the difference between Lindsay Lohan and Lindsey Graham:
One is a narcissistic drama queen.
The other one is a former child actress.

Posted by: Tim Scott at November 20, 2013 05:55 PM (Pr6hk)

99 Marcotte is a Texan?? Ugh, I didn't need to know that. Sheila Jackson Lee and Abortion Barbie are bad enough.

Posted by: Kas(ktgreat) at November 20, 2013 05:55 PM (Bl4dy)

100 Billy Farrow a Darlingon SC native was one of the three Raiders captured by the Japanese and executed. There is a highway in his hometown an a road in Myrtle Beach named in his honor.

Posted by: National Enquirer at November 20, 2013 05:56 PM (Pa9vP)

101 For the record, Obama hates all this soldier stuff.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 20, 2013 05:56 PM (MhA4j)

102 Nip - Consider having one of the various services convert them to digital. It may be a little pricey, but it is a one-time deal. I've done that with both 8mm, and lots of old family slides.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 05:56 PM (aDwsi)

103 90 Coulter never dated Maher.

Posted by: Kas(ktgreat) at November 20, 2013 05:57 PM (Bl4dy)

104 @84 There was a great show on the raid. They had to leave way early, they were spotted by jap fishing boats. The carrier was into a heavy wind and the planes jumped off the carrier. They knew when they left they did not have enough fuel to make it to China, THEN a magical tail wind saved most of them. One crew landed in Russian and the fucking Russians would not let them go. They escaped and hiked to fucking China.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 05:57 PM (0FSuD)

105 Many, if not most, "conservative" writers are not very conservative. They know how to earn a paycheck. There are a few bona fides, like Mark Steyn, Jonah Goldberg and VDH. But most of them do it as a job and nothing else. And when the job calls for their views to evolve, they evolve...see Noonan, Parker, Brooks and Frum as Exhibits A-D

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 05:57 PM (dfLY4)

106

Some funny Halsey-Doolittle Raid trivia.

1. A lookout on one of the Japanese picket boats spotted the two U.S. carriers but thought they were Japanese. He told his skipper to look at "two of our beautiful carriers." The skipper did and said; "They're beautiful all right, but they're not ours." The skipper went below and killed himself.

2. After several days of walking in China, Doolittle was exhausted and asked his Chinese guide to get him something to ride. The guide provided a donkey that kicked Doolittle in the chest and knocked him to the ground. The guide then said; "He bites too!"

Posted by: ExSnipe at November 20, 2013 05:58 PM (57ubW)

107 Back when I was in 5th grade, we had to do a report, and present to the class in character, about a famous dead American. A few months before the assignment was given, our area newspapers printed General Doolittle's obituary (erroneously). Teacher approved it because she remembered the obituary, but nobody could find his exact date of death; until Dad looked into it with some guys from his unit and found out the General was still alive...the day before the report was due. I had the only living famous dead American.

I ended up writing a letter to General Doolittle after the presentation, and dad got it to him through the military grapevine somehow. Got a letter from him, with a translation from his daughter since he was old and shaky. Said he thought the situation was kinda funny, and that he was amazed and honored that someone my age knew who he was, and for stuff other than just his raid (I'd asked about his days racing planes, particularly about the GeeBee Model R-1).

Dunno what happened to those letters. One of the things I most wish I could find in our pile of stuff.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 20, 2013 05:58 PM (G99e4)

108 Eeeeeee baby ocelot!

Posted by: alexthechick Team Ice Cream at November 20, 2013 05:58 PM (k3JB6)

109 100 Nip - Consider having one of the various services convert them to digital. It may be a little pricey, but it is a one-time deal. I've done that with both 8mm, and lots of old family slides. I've thought about that, but each one is about an hour long. Probably should give them to a college.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 05:58 PM (0FSuD)

110 95 Marcotte seems unaware that her body naturally slaughters bacteria by the millions every day. What a completely useless bag of cells she is. BTW, microbe poetry sucks. Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 09:55 PM (AO9UG) _____________ Uhm no. Her point is that the anti-abortion people kill millions of bacteria every day but don't care. So why do they care if an abortion kills some other type of bacteria? I don't agree with her. BUt you're totally missing her point.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 05:59 PM (dfLY4)

111 I forgot to mention that today's cubesats are more sophisticated than the first satellite, Sputnik 1, which required a military superpower using the world's largest rocket to send it into orbit in 1957. Posted by: rickl -------------------- FWIW, I spent some time working on thermal testing for an AMSAT cube transceiver module.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 05:59 PM (aDwsi)

112 No Canadian bacon lunch fine?. No crackers, you hoser

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 05:59 PM (HVff2)

113 Top Ten Things the World Doesn't Miss: 10) Imperial Japan

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:00 PM (AO9UG)

114 This post also could use more cowbell. Just sayin'

Posted by: El Zopilote at November 20, 2013 06:00 PM (svmta)

115 99 For the record, Obama hates all this soldier stuff.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 20, 2013 09:56 PM (MhA4j)

Because it's butch and icky.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 06:00 PM (lVPtV)

116 I found the doofus who was offended in the social media video to be hilarious "thanks for invading our privacy" yeah, dickhead, you put your info out pubically on social media, you invaded your own privacy.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 06:00 PM (RZ8pf)

117 1) Gaylord Focker and his grifter wife.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 06:00 PM (BXhlo)

118 "102 @84" Yes, Nip. Quite the military aviation buff here so I enjoy the company. I grew up in Breckenridge, TX if that, you an aviation/airshow buff, means anything.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 20, 2013 06:01 PM (5xfYX)

119 The knicks are horrible + atrocious= horotious

Posted by: Flyonthewall at November 20, 2013 06:01 PM (mUydy)

120       There's evidence you can will yourself to wake on time, too. Sleep scientists at Germany's University of Lubeck asked 15 volunteers to sleep in their lab for three nights. One night, the group was told they'd be woken at 6 a.m., while on other nights the group was told they'd be woken at 9 a.m.

When I was a kid, I had the ability to choose to wake up at a certain time with no alarm clocks.

That was back before I developed all sorts of bad sleeping habits though.   (Internet, can't quit you)

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 20, 2013 06:01 PM (kLzfc)

121 Uhm no. Her point is that the anti-abortion people kill millions of bacteria every day but don't care. So why do they care if an abortion kills some other type of bacteria? I don't agree with her. BUt you're totally missing her point. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 09:59 PM (dfLY4) She doesn't have a point. Comparing random bacteria on your hands or bacteria killed through medication to a child isÂ…..prima facie evidence of lunacy.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 06:01 PM (GEICT)

122 Uhm no. Her point is that the anti-abortion people kill millions of bacteria every day but don't care. So why do they care if an abortion kills some other type of bacteria? I don't agree with her. BUt you're totally missing her point. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 09:59 PM (dfLY4) You just broke the tard meters of everyone here.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:02 PM (AO9UG)

123 105 --- What a wonderful story!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2013 06:02 PM (dfYL9)

124 I've thought about that, but each one is about an hour long. Probably should give them to a college. Posted by: Nip Sip ---------------- Ah! A worthwhile thought. You might be able to make the donation contingent upon an agreement that *they* digitize them, and provide copy to you. At the risk of sounding mercenary, there may be a tax deduction to be had also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 06:02 PM (aDwsi)

125 103 also if you are a con woman how the hell could you date or marry prog slime such as Maher or Carville

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:02 PM (HVff2)

126 I had the opportunity to interview one of the Doolittle Raiders. He was linked to someone at Asbury Seminary and I got to interview him for the Alumni Newsletter. It was a wonderful afternoon talking with him, even though it was only by phone.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at November 20, 2013 06:02 PM (fzFF6)

127 Just found out Richard Cole, Doolittle's copilot, lives 24 miles down the road in Comfort. He is 98. I think I'll stop by on Saturday and give him a salute.

Posted by: Velociman at November 20, 2013 06:02 PM (RHu5C)

128

The time between the bombing of Pearl Harbor and the end of WWII is approximately the same amount of time between the passage Obamacare and the rollout of the website.

We could mobilize the country,fight and win a World War then, but we can build a functioning website today.

Unfuckin believable.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 20, 2013 06:02 PM (Os+6p)

129 ". So why do they care if an abortion kills some other type of bacteria? " Because a fetus isn't a type of bacteria. *blinks*

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:03 PM (hFL/3)

130 Ranba Ral, that is a great story.

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 06:03 PM (k55Fc)

131 Canada looks unlivable. Sad.
Yeah, because American school boards never doing anything stupid.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 06:03 PM (fIgFc)

132 So has Jones in CO vanished, or am I too scarce here these days to know where he went?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:04 PM (4Mv1T)

133 Found out today that, after five nieces, I am getting a nephew. Yay!

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 20, 2013 06:04 PM (XtD9y)

134 THINK OF THE BACTERIA! Won't someone think of the BACTERIA!!!! - Mr Mau-Mau

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 06:04 PM (EZNxq)

135 120 Uhm no. Her point is that the anti-abortion people kill millions of bacteria every day but don't care. So why do they care if an abortion kills some other type of bacteria?

I don't agree with her. BUt you're totally missing her point.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 09:59 PM (dfLY4)

Jeeze louise. Do you have kids? If so, was your unborn child a "bacteria?"

Bless your heart.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 06:04 PM (lVPtV)

136 Hey Doc. What's up with this Affordable Carrot Act? Vaudeville?

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at November 20, 2013 06:04 PM (krHnX)

137 127 ". So why do they care if an abortion kills some other type of bacteria? " Because a fetus isn't a type of bacteria. *blinks* Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 10:03 PM (hFL/3) ________ Fine. But that's her point.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:05 PM (dfLY4)

138 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 06:05 PM (T1005)

139 It was an honor and privilege back in April to attend the 71st Raider Reunion. Got to shake hands with Cole, Saylor, and Thatcher along with saying thank you to them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 06:05 PM (BXhlo)

140 TR - He was 'vanished'. Went a bit over the line.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 06:05 PM (aDwsi)

141 130 So has Jones in CO vanished, or am I too scarce here these days to know where he went? Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 10:04 PM (4Mv1T) Banned. Crossed the line on "violent rhetoric" from my understanding.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 06:05 PM (GEICT)

142 Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 10:03 PM (fIgFc Actually our school boards are the extension of the teachers units & are terminally stupid or worse andy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:05 PM (HVff2)

143 you put your info out pubically on social media, you invaded your own privacy.

I thought that was funny. They should have thanked him for the heads up and fixed their settings. The check-in feature creeps me out. Even more so when other people check-in for you. I disallow all of that.

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 06:06 PM (k55Fc)

144 She doesn't have a point. Comparing random bacteria on your hands or bacteria killed through medication to a child isÂ…..prima facie evidence of lunacy.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 10:01 PM (GEICT)

She so loves abortion that she is willing to treat human life as no more important than a bacterial lifeform. Perhaps hers is.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 20, 2013 06:06 PM (kLzfc)

145 Teacher unions

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:06 PM (HVff2)

146 How the hell you keeping V-man ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 20, 2013 06:06 PM (XWw96)

147 Ah! A worthwhile thought. You might be able to make the donation contingent upon an agreement that *they* digitize them, and provide copy to you. At the risk of sounding mercenary, there may be a tax deduction to be had also. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 10:02 PM (aDwsi) Oh, I know! Valuation is going to be the problem.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:06 PM (0FSuD)

148 "Fine. But that's her point." Ohh..k? That's not exactly a defensible point in any way shape or form. "But her point is that clouds are made of mashed potatoes!" That's about as relevant.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:06 PM (hFL/3)

149
We could mobilize the country,fight and win a World War then, but we can build a functioning website today.

Unfuckin believable.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 20, 2013 10:02 PM (Os+6p)

And today's military can't fire on the enemy until they're fired on first.

My dad spins in his grave.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 06:06 PM (lVPtV)

150 And here we go again with the abortion stupidity....I guess 2008 and 2012 wasn't enough. Let's go for a hat trick of losses.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:07 PM (dfLY4)

151 "One organism < the billions you kill with antibiotics." The one organism is the fetus or baby or embryo (pick your favorite term). The "billions" are the bacteria killed by antibiotics. Somehow, this escaped the finely-tuned thinking machine that is Moo Moo's brain.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:07 PM (AO9UG)

152 @139 BC is right. Happened a couple of weeks ago?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:07 PM (0FSuD)

153 TR - He was 'vanished'. Went a bit over the line. Posted by: Mike Hammer -------------------------------- Huh. Wouldn't have seen that coming. Did he get "pushed"?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:07 PM (4Mv1T)

154 148 And here we go again with the abortion stupidity....I guess 2008 and 2012 wasn't enough. Let's go for a hat trick of losses.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:07 PM (dfLY4)

There, there. There's nothing stopping you from post-natally aborting yourself.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 20, 2013 06:07 PM (kLzfc)

155 Social media, catholic priest suspended for sharing porn on FB both adults & minors, duh. It happened in the Milwaukee area

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:08 PM (HVff2)

156 148 And here we go again with the abortion stupidity Funny enough, I was thinking the same exact thing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 06:08 PM (GEICT)

157 Baylor is a great school! Congrats. Don't forget there may be work study too Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 09:53 PM (zOTsN) Congrats Rags! Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 09:53 PM (GEICT) Thanks!! I'm trying to find a 'list' to tell me whihc is more prestigious Baylor or A&M For pity's sake, the spouse is a Tech grad and did his residency through UT, he HATES A&M

Posted by: Ragamuffin at November 20, 2013 06:08 PM (fzFF6)

158 Ohh..k? That's not exactly a defensible point in any way shape or form. "But her point is that clouds are made of mashed potatoes!" That's about as relevant. Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 10:06 PM (hFL/3) __________ Ugh. Whoever it was upthread said she doesn't realize that she kills millions of bacteria with soap. I said, that that poster totally missed her point. You can disagree with her all you want, but at least understand what she's saying before doing so. Fuck. This abortion bullshit. I just know the pro-lifers will find a way to fuck up 2014 and 2016.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:09 PM (dfLY4)

159 Isn't Marcotte the one with the tattoo on her arm that's a gun with a barrel/slide that's a dick? She's a classy dame.

Posted by: Kas(ktgreat) at November 20, 2013 06:09 PM (Bl4dy)

160 Wow, pixy ate part of my post. (149) It should begin with a repeat of Marcotte's statement.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:09 PM (AO9UG)

161 You just broke the tard meters of everyone here. Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 10:02 PM (AO9UG) Thanks I don't really need a functioning monitor.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 20, 2013 06:09 PM (oFCZn)

162 God bless those old flyboys.

I'll hoist a hearty beverage in their honor, once I'm over this damn virus.

Posted by: dissent555 at November 20, 2013 06:09 PM (yR6A1)

163 Oh, I know! Valuation is going to be the problem. Posted by: Nip Sip --------------------------- Vintage Film Appraisers Inc. "We guarantee that you'll like our results" Contact - Mike Hammer@AoSHQ

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 06:09 PM (aDwsi)

164 "And here we go again with the abortion stupidity" Such as incorrectly labeling human beings as bacteria? I agree. That should be stopped immediately. If a Dem says it they get a pass, but if a Republican says something so stupid it's proof of the idiocy of the entire party, right?

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:09 PM (hFL/3)

165 Thanks!! I'm trying to find a 'list' to tell me whihc is more prestigious Baylor or A&M For pity's sake, the spouse is a Tech grad and did his residency through UT, he HATES A&M Posted by: Ragamuffin at November 20, 2013 10:08 PM (fzFF6) My unasked for two cents? Fuck prestige. What school offers the best chance to offer the kiddo what he's looking for. Look for the best fit, not the highest ranking.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 06:10 PM (GEICT)

166 The one organism is the fetus or baby or embryo (pick your favorite term). The "billions" are the bacteria killed by antibiotics. Somehow, this escaped the finely-tuned thinking machine that is Moo Moo's brain. Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 10:07 PM (AO9UG) ____ That's Amanda's point. Are you really so fucking retarded to not get it?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:10 PM (dfLY4)

167 Or, project it on a screen and record it with the average 10-20 megapixel camera... Posted by: somejoe at November 20, 2013 10:08 PM (+KtKI) Good idea. I am worried the film has dried out and will crack or break if I try to run it. Someone stole my screen, so I would have project it on a wall and not those nice reflective screens.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:10 PM (0FSuD)

168 She is saying abortion is less of an act of killing because each abortion kills only one organism and using antibiotics kills billions of organisms.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:10 PM (AO9UG)

169 Jones in CO got banned? Wow.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 20, 2013 06:11 PM (oFCZn)

170 Marcotte is a vile combination of ignorance and hate. It's hard to imagine anyone wanting to even associate with her except like minded femo warriorettes in the holy crusade of infanticide. How does someone become like that? Daddy issues x infinity or what?

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 20, 2013 06:11 PM (dvRYt)

171 @109 Yeah, my son has a satellite in orbit, thanks to that little engineering school in the Rockies. Not that he's looking for work, but it's a hell of a resume item.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 20, 2013 06:11 PM (xq1UY)

172 Oh no not jones in co too. I really liked him. So many of my favorites are gone.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 06:11 PM (RZ8pf)

173 Or, project it on a screen and record it with the average 10-20 megapixel camera... Posted by: somejoe ----------------- Have you tried that? Not exactly archive quality results.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 06:11 PM (aDwsi)

174 an overnight thread at 9:20? is there not post later feature on this thing?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2013 06:11 PM (Z9EHQ)

175 Such as incorrectly labeling human beings as bacteria? I agree. That should be stopped immediately. If a Dem says it they get a pass, but if a Republican says something so stupid it's proof of the idiocy of the entire party, right? Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 10:09 PM (hFL/3) _____________ Labeling a fetus as a human being is pretty stupid in and of itself. Sorry. But a glob of tissue does not a human being make. And it's irrelevant because you know very well that a Republican is going to be hammered for saying something idiotic about rape and abortion while nobody will give a fuck what Amanda Marcotte says. Why can't you people ever learn this simple fact?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:12 PM (dfLY4)

176 Son cut the Marine Birthday cake at the ball with a 93 year old, who fought in a little known battle (hell, I've never heard of it) against the Japanese on New Zealand. *runs off to check Google*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 06:12 PM (lVPtV)

177 as a general thought, when someone explains to you that people are just like animals and no better, mention the name "Adolf" and see if they catch your drift.

Posted by: mallfly at November 20, 2013 06:12 PM (LIEbV)

178 That's Amanda's point. Are you really so fucking retarded to not get it? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo -------------------------------------------- Oh goody. It ain't a real ONT unless we get to call someone an asshole. YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE!!! BWUWHAHAHAHA!!! *whew* That felt good. Okay. I'm done.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:12 PM (4Mv1T)

179 "You can disagree with her all you want, but at least understand what she's saying before doing so. " We understand what she's saying. We just also see it as completely and utterly retarded and without merit. We don't need to be told "too be fair" because her statement is an abortion of logic. There is no argument because she is operating of a premise so factually incorrect that the only proper response is mockery and face palms.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:12 PM (hFL/3)

180 I'm out....don't need Moo Moo's brand of crap tonight.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 20, 2013 06:13 PM (bCEmE)

181 167 She is saying abortion is less of an act of killing because each abortion kills only one organism and using antibiotics kills billions of organisms. Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 10:10 PM (AO9UG) _________ Hey good you finally got it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:13 PM (dfLY4)

182 We get it Moo Moo, you heart the Abortion and we're all a bunch of dummies.

Posted by: Kas(ktgreat) at November 20, 2013 06:13 PM (Bl4dy)

183
Labeling a fetus as a human being is pretty stupid in and of itself. Sorry. But a glob of tissue does not a human being make.

And it's irrelevant because you know very well that a Republican is going to be hammered for saying something idiotic about rape and abortion while nobody will give a fuck what Amanda Marcotte says.

Why can't you people ever learn this simple fact?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:12 PM (dfLY4)

You lost us with the first paragraph, and the "YOOO people" closed the deal.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 06:14 PM (lVPtV)

184 as a general thought, when someone explains to you that people are just like animals and no better, mention the name "Adolf" and see if they catch your drift. Posted by: mallfly -------------------- I generally just say, "And that's why I could never vote for a Democratic Socialist"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 06:14 PM (aDwsi)

185 Labeling a fetus as a human being is pretty stupid in and of itself. Sorry. But a glob of tissue does not a human being make. ------------------------------ And you got here exactly how? Were you not once a fetus? School me, please.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:14 PM (4Mv1T)

186 How about this: You don't like abortions, don't have them. But don't tell others to not have them. Same with ghey marriage...you don't want to marry an icky ghey? Don't. But if others do, don't tell them what they can or can't do. Deal? PS: You do this, you'll start winning elections again.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:15 PM (dfLY4)

187 anyone ever heard of a place called www.carinthiashop.com ? It looks like they make some interesting gear but I have never heard of 'em.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2013 06:15 PM (Z9EHQ)

188 Going to have lunch with Karl Rove tomorrow. Fund raiser for a few of us to help Tillis kick Hagan's ass. I've met him before and he is always very entertaining. I'll give an update tomorrow. Guess I'll have to shave in the morning.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:15 PM (0FSuD)

189 Labeling a fetus as a human being is pretty stupid in and of itself. Sorry. But a glob of tissue does not a human being make. And it's irrelevant because you know very well that a Republican is going to be hammered for saying something idiotic about rape and abortion while nobody will give a fuck what Amanda Marcotte says. Why can't you people ever learn this simple fact? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:12 PM (dfLY4) Your opinion is going to go over like a fart in church here. But I'm sure you already know that. Stirring the shit can be so much fun. The Jeff B. line is to your right.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 20, 2013 06:15 PM (oFCZn)

190 Walking the fine line of blasphemy the cow is .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 20, 2013 06:16 PM (XWw96)

191 Actually our school boards are the extension of the teachers units & are terminally stupid or worse, andy
I don't know. Ours are pretty stupid too but, I'd opine, equally stupid. (Although I don't think we have anywhere as corrupt or as incompetent as Chicago or Atlanta---not for lack of trying however.)

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 06:16 PM (fIgFc)

192 Were you not once a fetus? School me, please. Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 10:14 PM (4Mv1T) ______________ God brought me here because he loves me or something.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:16 PM (dfLY4)

193 Hey good you finally got it.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:13 PM (dfLY4)

I think everyone here understand her point. They just think it's stupid.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 20, 2013 06:16 PM (XkotV)

194 "Labeling a fetus as a human being is pretty stupid in and of itself. Sorry. But a glob of tissue does not a human being make. " A unique human being is formed at amphimixis. Unlike "glob of tissue", this designation is a scientific fact. I'm sorry that facts make you uncomfortable, but since conservatives live in the world of truth and uncomfortable numbers and not the world of bullshit euphemisms and Orwellian language, I'm sure you can deal with some discomfort.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:16 PM (hFL/3)

195 Thanks!! I'm trying to find a 'list' to tell me whihc is more prestigious Baylor or A&M --- What's his discipline? Make sure he does campus visits and ascertains what the classes would be like. I turned down a more "prestigious" school for undergrad for my alma mater because I could tell I would have less freedom to pursue the courses I wanted and have less personal attention at the prestigious school. So it really depends on the type of experience he's seeking more than a rankings list.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:16 PM (zDsvJ)

196 PS: You do this, you'll start winning elections again. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:15 PM (dfLY4) You can't possibly be this stupid. That's it folks. He's just screwing with us. Good one Moo Moo. Had me going there for a while.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 06:16 PM (GEICT)

197 Moo Moo, a human fetus can become a human being (it already is one, it is human and it is a being), but bacteria, no matter how many, can not. She is trying to say that potential and intent have no value here and the only thing worthy of measurement is the number of cells or organism killed. She and you are both irrational and your minds are enslaved by ideology.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:16 PM (AO9UG)

198 I tell ya what, Moo Moo, when your wife has had miscarriages, and experienced a second trimester miscarriage, tell her she just lost some "bacteria."

Jeebus. Go back to Kos or Huffpo or Salon. They'll love you there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 06:17 PM (lVPtV)

199 Going to have lunch with Karl Rove tomorrow. Fund raiser for a few of us to help Tillis kick Hagan's ass. Warm up by kicking Rove in the balls.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 20, 2013 06:17 PM (QupBk)

200 130 So has Jones in CO vanished, or am I too scarce here these days to know where he went?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 10:04 PM (4Mv1T)

Searchlight, Nevada? Am I right? If so, what is my prize?

Posted by: Ammo Dump at November 20, 2013 06:17 PM (GgPam)

201 Lauren you get it & mr cow soccer moo doesn't. Nothing new there

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:17 PM (HVff2)

202 Stepped away to do some things here and ONT is up early. Hi, again.

Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 06:17 PM (z4WKX)

203 185 How about this: You don't like abortions, don't have them. But don't tell others to not have them How about this. You don't want to get pregnant? Stop fucking or take the pill. Killing your offspring won't be necessary if you make the choice and fuck responsibly.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:18 PM (0FSuD)

204 It's abortion bullshit like this tonight that makes me pessimistic for 2014. We have the Dems on the ropes but I know that there will be an Aiken out there ready to say something beyond idiotic that will cost the GOP 3 senate seats and 20 house seats.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:18 PM (dfLY4)

205 My unasked for two cents? Fuck prestige. What school offers the best chance to offer the kiddo what he's looking for. Look for the best fit, not the highest ranking. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 10:10 PM (GEICT) Yeah. Prestige was the wrong word. Spouse wants to know how they compare ratings wise--is he getting what he's paying for. Especially because we've been beating the drum that for undergrad where you go is less important than what you accomplish. Kid's applying to both (and to UT, James Madison and Fordham). I'm wanting to just sit back and wait for acceptances and offers to come in and then do the comparison. Spouse seems to want information now, immediately.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at November 20, 2013 06:18 PM (fzFF6)

206 193 "Labeling a fetus as a human being is pretty stupid in and of itself. Sorry. But a glob of tissue does not a human being make. " ---- You are really out of your depth. A fetus is not a glob of tissue.

Posted by: Y-not, Ph.D. developmental biology University of Chicago at November 20, 2013 06:18 PM (zDsvJ)

207 167 She is saying abortion is less of an act of killing because each abortion kills only one organism and using antibiotics kills billions of organisms. Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 10:10 PM (AO9UG) _________ Hey good you finally got it. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:13 PM (dfLY4) I understood it from the beginning. She is a twisted retard to believe such a thing. Now, do you get it?

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:18 PM (AO9UG)

208 I love men in uniform - and out of uniform. Mmmmm-mmmmm-mmmm.

Posted by: Reggie Love at November 20, 2013 06:18 PM (q4QfH)

209 Fucking troll.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:18 PM (zDsvJ)

210 Nip - Interesting. I received a mewling letter from Burr today in response to a blistering letter I wrote to him concerning his vote in favor of cloture on the House CR bill.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 06:19 PM (aDwsi)

211 Posted by: Ragamuffin at November 20, 2013 09:50 PM (fzFF6)

Choosing between which pile of riches to take from is a good problem, Ragamuffin. Congrats.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 06:19 PM (gmoEG)

212 167 She is saying abortion is less of an act of killing because each abortion kills only one organism and using antibiotics kills billions of organisms. Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 10:10 PM (AO9UG) It's an example of false moral equivalence. Any organism that is not a pure primary producer (or scavenger, I suppose) is dependent upon killing other organisms for survival by definition. Most plants kill other plants through chemical agents to ensure their own survival. To willfully kill one'd own offspring when there are sufficient resources is a crime against the species, not to mention a total Darwin fail.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at November 20, 2013 06:19 PM (ZRv7F)

213 How about this. You don't want to get pregnant? Stop fucking or take the pill. Killing your offspring won't be necessary if you make the choice and fuck responsibly. Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 10:18 PM (0FSuD) __________ How about this? If a 15 year old gets pregnant, you pay for her daycare so she can finish high school? DEAL? Or the 13 year old girl who is raped by her step dad...you'll help her raise the kid? DEAL? Or the down syndrome baby that you force the single mother with 2 kids to keep...you'll come over every evening and help take care of the kid right?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:19 PM (dfLY4)

214 So I came to check in, only to discover that a child in a mother's womb is the biological equivalent of a single celled, brainless, heartless strep bacterium. Well, to be fair, maybe a few billion bacteria. But there's no other real difference between them. You people. (And we're the fucking idiots? How the fuck do you keep from drinking Drano thinking it's the same as Coca Cola?)

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 06:20 PM (bTnE9)

215 Am I the only one here getting an obnoxious video showing up on the lower right hand of my monitor when I refresh?

*hate*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 06:20 PM (lVPtV)

216 #174

Actually, a glob of tissue does make a human being, given time. Did no one ever explain to you where babies come from?

Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2013 06:21 PM (bPxS6)

217 Or the down syndrome baby that you force the single mother with 2 kids to keep...you'll come over every evening and help take care of the kid right? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:19 PM (dfLY4) Consequences for actionsÂ….how the fuck do they work? And I'm always amazed that people's response to a tough situation is KILL THE CHILD!!!!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 06:21 PM (GEICT)

218 "PS: You do this, you'll start winning elections again." Except for the fact that a sizeable percentage of the population will never, ever, ever vote for a pro-abortion politician. Ever. See, when another human being (I know, so uncomfortable. Ick!) is being killed, many people of good conscience can't simply turn the other way and vote for the guy who is pro-killing, but anti tax hikes. There are those who consider the sanctity of life to be the core value upon which all other rights are based, and it can't be tossed aside for political expediency.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:21 PM (hFL/3)

219 Nip Sip, you may want to look local for some experts on film preservation if you fear they might be dried out.

Meanwhile in India, they found in a passenger jet's lavatory 24 gold bars.
http://tinyurl.com/lzfrj8o

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 06:21 PM (BXhlo)

220 Or the down syndrome baby that you force the single mother with 2 kids to keep...you'll come over every evening and help take care of the kid right? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo ------------------------------------- Some call abortion an act of convenience, the rest of us call it murder.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:22 PM (4Mv1T)

221 214 Am I the only one here getting an obnoxious video showing up on the lower right hand of my monitor when I refresh? *hate* Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 10:20 PM (lVPtV) I'm getting that a lot too. Annoying as all hell.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 06:22 PM (GEICT)

222 Baylor vs A & M. What does she want to do? Where is she going to live? All these play into a school decision. Baylor is private and smaller. A & M public and huge. Influence in TX? Don't ask me. I would think equal.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:22 PM (0FSuD)

223 I don't think we have anywhere as corrupt or as incompetent as Chicago or Atlanta---not for lack of trying however.) Posted by: andycanuck ------- Chicago? Can't be. The head of The Dept. of Ed is from Chicago, so he's got to be on the up-and-up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 06:22 PM (aDwsi)

224 Except for the fact that a sizeable percentage of the population will never, ever, ever vote for a pro-abortion politician. Ever. _________ Which is dwarfed by the percentage of people who will never ever ever never ever vote for an ant-abortion fanatic politician. EVER!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:22 PM (dfLY4)

225 >>> Am I the only one here getting an obnoxious video showing up on the lower right hand of my monitor when I refresh? No, but I do keep getting obnoxious text in the middle of the screen. He'll get bored.

Posted by: fluffonutta at November 20, 2013 06:23 PM (xDGmz)

226 Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 10:16 PM (zDsvJ) Poor child desires to go to law school and work in both charity and politics. I know, I know...I tried. I've no idea where he went wrong.

Appealing about Baylor is the faith-based aspect as well as the established law school. This second scholarship he is applying for is a guaranteed admission to the law school with assistance for both undergrad and grad. A&M I understand only recently acquired their law school and has recently been in the news for the professor who wants the 2nd amendment appealed. But it does cost less...

Posted by: Ragamuffin at November 20, 2013 06:23 PM (fzFF6)

227 Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 09:52 PM (0FSuD)

Nip Sip - there are companies that transfer old data to new mediums. My parents had their slides converted to DVD. Go search the net and save!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 06:23 PM (gmoEG)

228 Some call abortion an act of convenience, the rest of us call it murder. Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 10:22 PM (4Mv1T) ____________ You can call it whatever you want. You still didn't answer my question...will you come over every night and help raise the kid? If not, shut the fuck up. It's none of your business.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:23 PM (dfLY4)

229 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 06:24 PM (JMmQ9)

230 Ok, I'm all done talking to the stupid fucking murderer. Anybody else got something they wanna talk about?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 06:24 PM (GEICT)

231 When it comes to abortion, my goals are pretty simple, I just would like people to kill fewer premature babies. My attitude is, if you don't want a baby then take birth control, take a morning after pill, or take it up the butt. I do not give a fuck. Just don't wait half a year and then kill your premature baby. Don't wait until the baby is fully fucking formed and kicking and hanging out, swimming in his little amniotic fluid and sucking his thumb and relaxing to the sound of his mama's voice ... and then decide to kill it. That's just mean. I really do not get why leftists have such a hard-on for killing premature babies. That's fucked up.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 06:24 PM (ZPrif)

232 Ritz crackers are a part of no balanced diet. WTF? They don't know that the potatoes were the starch? Ritz crackers. Really.

Posted by: kalneva at November 20, 2013 06:24 PM (XyrkB)

233 Meanwhile in India, they found in a passenger jet's lavatory 24 gold bars ------------------ *hurriedly checks pockets* *shit! I left the damn gold in the can!*

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 06:24 PM (aDwsi)

234 Which is dwarfed by the percentage of people who will never ever ever never ever vote for an ant-abortion fanatic politician. EVER! Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo ------------------------------ If someone murdered someone close to you and could get away with it, and could win the presidency and be the best president ever, would you vote for him/her?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:24 PM (4Mv1T)

235 Poor Moo Moo. Let's talk about the 2nd Amendment now. That also gets him all steamy and gassy. Then tomorrow jwest can fap as he yammers about snuffing old people.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:25 PM (AO9UG)

236 Mr. Moo Moo, Zombie Margaret Sanger approves.

Now, I'm off to bed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 06:25 PM (lVPtV)

237 How about this? If a 15 year old gets pregnant, you pay for her daycare so she can finish high school? DEAL? Or the 13 year old girl who is raped by her step dad...you'll help her raise the kid? DEAL? Or the down syndrome baby that you force the single mother with 2 kids to keep...you'll come over every evening and help take care of the kid right? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:19 PM (dfLY4) Yeah, all those are what all the abortions are about. Give me a break. How about this? You have a blind syphilitic woman pregnant with her NINTH child. Should she get an abortion? Thank God she didn't or we would not have any Beethoven to listen too.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:26 PM (0FSuD)

238 My attitude is, if you don't want a baby then take birth control, take a morning after pill, or take it up the butt. I do not give a fuck. Just don't wait half a year and then kill your premature baby. Don't wait until the baby is fully fucking formed and kicking and hanging out, swimming in his little amniotic fluid and sucking his thumb and relaxing to the sound of his mama's voice ... and then decide to kill it. That's just mean. I really do not get why leftists have such a hard-on for killing premature babies. That's fucked up. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 10:24 PM (ZPrif) __________ I agree with you for the most part. And most pro-choice folks do as well. The people who have a hard on for killing 25 week old fetuses are fucked up. And they are a small minority.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:26 PM (dfLY4)

239 .will you come over every night and help raise the kid? If not, shut the fuck up. It's none of your business. --------------- Strawman. Giant strawman.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 06:26 PM (aDwsi)

240 I think Baylor has the oldest law school in Texas. I see from a quick search of their website they have the number 1 passage rate for the Texas bar exam.

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 06:26 PM (k55Fc)

241 I was sure Josh Hartnett died in the Doolittle raid.

Posted by: redshirt at November 20, 2013 06:26 PM (iCdNG)

242 How does everyone feel about the Kmart jingle balls ad?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 06:26 PM (RZ8pf)

243 LOL Mike Hammer, blame the cat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 06:26 PM (BXhlo)

244 You can't talk about abortion late night on a blog comment section, we'll lose 2016!!!! Always Be Closing!!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 06:26 PM (ZPrif)

245 Wait Downs babies are fair game Well I guess they all are So repulsive.

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 06:26 PM (zOTsN)

246 Don't like murder? Don't commit one. But don't tell me I can't because who are you to set moral standards for everyone else?

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 20, 2013 06:26 PM (dvRYt)

247 @BC , Boobies , hunting , fishing........... or boobies .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 20, 2013 06:27 PM (XWw96)

248 Can we get a TB3K for someone otherwise ruining a fine ONT?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:27 PM (4Mv1T)

249 How about this? You have a blind syphilitic woman pregnant with her NINTH child. Should she get an abortion? Thank God she didn't or we would not have any Beethoven to listen too. Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 10:26 PM (0FSuD) __________ It should be HER choice, not yours. Why is this so hard for you to understand? You want to have 10 kids? Be my fucking guest. Have 20 for all I care. Just don't force others to live like you. That's all.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:27 PM (dfLY4)

250 Appealing about Baylor is the faith-based aspect as well as the established law school. This second scholarship he is applying for is a guaranteed admission to the law school with assistance for both undergrad and grad. -- Is it usual for people to pursue their law degrees at their alma maters? I honestly don't know that field. In the sciences, it's often considered wise to pursue your degrees and postdocs at different institutions - and in different parts of the country. So that's why I ask. Sounds like you'll have some homework to do to compare schools, but congrats to him on getting into Baylor. That's a great first step.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:27 PM (zDsvJ)

251 Yeah, some boobs and bacon will act as an open window. Sadly, I'm too lazy to do more than this. (.) (.)

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:27 PM (AO9UG)

252 247 @BC , Boobies , hunting , fishing........... or boobies . Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 20, 2013 10:27 PM (XWw96) All acceptable. And one helluva a weekend.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 06:28 PM (GEICT)

253 redshirt if you ever mention that horrible movie ever again in my presence well it will not be pretty.

Instead of that horrid piece of tripe, watch the following:
Battle of Britain,
Tora! Tora! Tora! , and
Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 06:28 PM (BXhlo)

254 UT vs Baylor vs AM All are good choices, but I would say that it really depends on individual personality. I would probably say Baylor or A&M over UT just because UT is so awash in progressive bullshit. Baylor tends to have good kids of wealthyish parents (not as much as SMU) and is highly respected with a good alumni network. The city of Waco is lacking in terms of night life and down town and can be a bit sketchy in some places, but is also home to some very friendly people. A&M is great. I wish I had gone there, but when I was looking at schools I was a big liberal and thought EWWW conservative cooties! It is very...intense...in terms of school spirit, but I'm sure you knew that. However as a result, it has a crazy alumni network, and there was a study a few years ago that ranked A&M number 1 for the type of graduate who employers like to hire. I also personally like College Station. Again, not a huge nightlife, but I think it offers a bit more in terms of a good city for a young person than Waco would. Obviously, Austin would be party/nightlife central which might be another reason to NOT come here.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:28 PM (hFL/3)

255 Well I think the Kmart ad is kind of tacky.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 06:28 PM (RZ8pf)

256 Who was it that said next time they were at an abortion protest, they'd gouge out someone's eye and tell them it's just a clump of cells? Understanding that sentiment right now...

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at November 20, 2013 06:28 PM (ZRv7F)

257 Anyone see the White house tweet remembering people to discuss healthcare with their families over Thanksgiving. Oh I think there will be plenty gnashing of teeth.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 06:29 PM (WdbF7)

258 >>> How does everyone feel about the Kmart jingle balls ad? This is a service they offer?

Posted by: fluffonutta at November 20, 2013 06:29 PM (xDGmz)

259 You're on the losing side of abortion. Just like you lost the SSM debate. It's just a matter of time before abortion is no longer a political issue just like SSM is for the most part no longer an issue.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:29 PM (dfLY4)

260 On Sunday the Pats will crush the Broncos 45 to 10. You heard it here first.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:29 PM (AO9UG)

261 Yeah, some boobs and bacon will act as an open window. Sadly, I'm too lazy to do more than this. (.) (.) Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 10:27 PM (AO9UG) Allow meÂ…Â… http://tinyurl.com/l8e6v6e

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 06:29 PM (GEICT)

262 How does everyone feel about the Kmart jingle balls ad? Haven't seen it. Blue Ball Special?

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 06:30 PM (bTnE9)

263 242 How does everyone feel about the Kmart jingle balls ad? ---- I LIKE IT! I think Victoria's Secret should do a "Jiggle Bells" ad for the guys.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:30 PM (zDsvJ)

264 This bacteria =chicken=cockroach= human is what happens when you remove God from the human experience. Just saying. You don't need to personally believe in God, but it better be there in the society and culture, or all hell breaks loose. Our forebears weren't idiots, like leftards think they were. Another e.g. the "knockout game". What civilized society does that?

Posted by: kalneva at November 20, 2013 06:30 PM (XyrkB)

265 Allow meÂ…Â… http://tinyurl.com/l8e6v6e Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 10:29 PM (GEICT) One of the very few cases where you can say, "Too much bacon"

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:31 PM (AO9UG)

266 It should be HER choice, not yours. Why is this so hard for you to understand? You want to have 10 kids? Be my fucking guest. Have 20 for all I care Her choice was to fuck. That's why I am pro choice. Choose to fuck, take the consequences. Please don't go with the rape crap. The number of women raped that get abortions is a VERY VERY small % of abortions. Abortion is birth control for the lazy. Admit it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:31 PM (0FSuD)

267 obviously, there's shit going on in this thread of which I do not belong. I have opinions, but they're more "big picture" than the current debate

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 06:31 PM (JMmQ9)

268

Am I the only one who thinks the pro-life position brings in more votes than it loses. Where exactly are these libertarian states that are voting against the GOP? I'd think twice about dropping the soc con stuff and still thinking the GOP will win Southern states in a landslide.

Posted by: 10271120 at November 20, 2013 06:31 PM (yTpEe)

269 Can't speak about the school boards in the great white north if they are corrupt. But ours here are.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:31 PM (HVff2)

270 Going to have lunch with Karl Rove tomorrow.
Does he like Stevia in chamomile tea with soy milk, Nip Sip?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 06:31 PM (fIgFc)

271 I like the kohls ad where the couple decorates the apartment of the elderly woman across the hall from them while she is out. It made me burst into tears.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 06:32 PM (RZ8pf)

272 264 This bacteria =chicken=cockroach= human is what happens when you remove God from the human experience. Posted by: kalneva at November 20, 2013 10:30 PM (XyrkB) __________ No. It's what happens when you study biology.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:32 PM (dfLY4)

273

Don't like slavery? Don't own slaves! Against killing the "lesser races?" Don't man the gas chambers!

Raising my taxes, on the other hand....

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 20, 2013 06:32 PM (XtD9y)

274 #223

And your electoral evidence for this? The biggest landslides I can recall were not in favor of pro-abortion candidates and abortion was rarely a core issue in any race of note I can recall. Akin sank himself by making an idiotic statement about rape in which abortion was an incidental factor.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2013 06:32 PM (bPxS6)

275 Is Baylor still a religious school? Do people consider it a religious school?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2013 06:32 PM (WdbF7)

276 And wassup with $10 dollars for Ritz crackers? I bet they didn't even have the peanut butter centers.

Posted by: USA at November 20, 2013 09:42 PM (VIaw0)

Ritz crackers, essentially starch plus grease, and salt. Potatoes, starch, water, and some vitamins. Spuds win.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2013 06:32 PM (L3CCJ)

277 Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 10:32 PM (RZ8pf) Me too.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at November 20, 2013 06:33 PM (fzFF6)

278 You're on the losing side of abortion. Just like you lost the SSM debate. It's just a matter of time before abortion is no longer a political issue just like SSM is for the most part no longer an issue. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo ------------------------------------ Moo Moo- We haven't been talking politics here. You have. We have been talking about good and bad, right and wrong, good and evil. You pick whichever you wish. You'll live with it and die with it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:33 PM (4Mv1T)

279 Well, Canada is the #1 grain power in the world. Great as our grain is, it's not a patch on Canadian grain, no joke. So it's no wonder the Canadians have a rule that you have to eat a grain product at every single meal. Simple national pride. Don't you wonder if they allow anybody to be gluten intolerant? It's a long standing truism that the secret ingredient in every Canadian recipe is corn starch. FWIW, their rape oil is also excellent.

Ragamuffin, if your student decides against the A and M law school, make sure that line about the second amendment professor gets mentioned. They need to know.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 20, 2013 06:33 PM (xq1UY)

280 "I can't help but notice everyone who is in favor of abortion has already been born." --Reagan *Mic drop*

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at November 20, 2013 06:33 PM (ZRv7F)

281 Another e.g. the "knockout game". What civilized society does that?

Posted by: kalneva at November 20, 2013 10:30 PM (XyrkB)

____________________

My argument would be that we are no longer a civilized society. These Feral Youth are creating another generation of Feral Youth who will be 10 times worse that what preceeded them.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 20, 2013 06:33 PM (jucos)

282 That social experiment vid is pretty freaky. There's simply no way I'd be as playful/flirty/impressed/calm about that happening to me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2013 06:33 PM (DmNpO)

283 >>> One of the very few cases where you can say, "Too much bacon" Easily remedied. Eat some bacon.

Posted by: fluffonutta at November 20, 2013 06:34 PM (xDGmz)

284 You're on the losing side of abortion. Just like you lost the SSM debate. It's just a matter of time before abortion is no longer a political issue just like SSM is for the most part no longer an issue. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:29 PM (dfLY4) Go ahead. Wallow in your abbotoir. Expect those who see the truth of what you support to be repulsed. Perhaps shame and disgrace are fitting consequences, at minimum, for a mother who would kill her own child for the sake of her personal convenience - whether it is born or not.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 06:34 PM (bTnE9)

285 268 Am I the only one who thinks the pro-life position brings in more votes than it loses. Posted by: 10271120 at November 20, 2013 10:31 PM (yTpEe) _________ Yes. http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:34 PM (dfLY4)

286 "234 Which is dwarfed by the percentage of people who will never ever ever never ever vote for an ant-abortion fanatic politician. " Not at all. You realize that I'm talking about 90% of the Republican party's base, right? Look, since you are all about seeing the opposition's point, why don't you look at it from our perspective. Assume that we're right and that abortion kills a human being. Completely morally equivalent to murdering an 8 year old. If it became suddenly legal to murder 8 year old children and younger would you yell at us all to "Get over it already! It's losing politics!"? Serious question.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:34 PM (hFL/3)

287 264 This bacteria =chicken=cockroach= human is what happens when you remove God from the human experience. -- I understand your point, but one does not need to invoke God to completely invalidate any world view in which human life is NOT prioritized over other organisms. That's just simple biology. If humans do not value human life, they will cease to exist. People arguing from this position are crazy.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:34 PM (zDsvJ)

288 "How about this? If a 15 year old gets pregnant, you pay for her daycare so she can finish high school? DEAL?" We're already paying for it smart ass.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 20, 2013 06:34 PM (oFCZn)

289 >>> One of the very few cases where you can say, "Too much bacon" Easily remedied. Eat some bacon. Posted by: fluffonutta at November 20, 2013 10:34 PM (xDGmz) Exactly.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:35 PM (AO9UG)

290 270 Going to have lunch with Karl Rove tomorrow. Does he like Stevia in chamomile tea with soy milk, Nip Sip? Arugula lettuce and green tea. ha ha. Last time I saw him was at a dinner. I think he drank some wine. He was flogging a book then. I have two or three some fucking where.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:35 PM (0FSuD)

291 It should be HER choice, not yours. Why is this so hard for you to understand? You want to have 10 kids? Be my fucking guest. Have 20 for all I care.

Their "choice", be it abortion or having 10 kids, should not be MY obligation.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 06:35 PM (Xlbr8)

292 248 Can we get a TB3K for someone otherwise ruining a fine ONT? Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 10:27 PM (4Mv1T) Not me I hope. I've been good, I think

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:36 PM (HVff2)

293 No. It's what happens when you study biology. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:32 PM (dfLY4) ^^^^^^ Paramecium = Human Embryo. Yeah, you aced that one. You dumb fuck.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 06:36 PM (bTnE9)

294 "PS: You do this, you'll start winning elections again..." Don't we all remember when Rommel phoned Ike and said "Aim for Normandy, my man, we got the rest of the Atlantic Wall shored up tighter than a Bavarian's drum. It's a cinch. Good Luck."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 20, 2013 06:36 PM (2rHjm)

295

@255 The Jingle Balls ad is very tacky, PGiS. I agree. It's not offensive to me, it's just tasteless. I'm not gonna get my panties in a wad about it, but it's crass. I liked their "Ship my pants" one, though. But that was only online, IIRC. Still classier than the ball one. I thought it was clever, whereas the jingleballs just seems tawdry and gross.

Posted by: kalneva at November 20, 2013 06:36 PM (XyrkB)

296 >My argument would be that we are no longer a civilized society. These Feral Youth are creating another generation of Feral Youth who will be 10 times worse that what preceeded them. So pretty much the society in A Clockwork Orange. btw, you know what might be the best way to deter the "Knockout Game"? An armed citizenry.

Posted by: Thrawn at November 20, 2013 06:36 PM (ZyqBH)

297 Can't we calm things down and talk about the war between the states?

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 06:37 PM (zOTsN)

298 Not at all. You realize that I'm talking about 90% of the Republican party's base, right? Look, since you are all about seeing the opposition's point, why don't you look at it from our perspective. Assume that we're right and that abortion kills a human being. Completely morally equivalent to murdering an 8 year old. If it became suddenly legal to murder 8 year old children and younger would you yell at us all to "Get over it already! It's losing politics!"? Serious question. Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 10:34 PM (hFL/3) ____________ Fair enough. But my point is very few people - under 25% - see killing an 8 year old the same as killing an 8 week old fetus. I get that you personally think abortion is murder. I can respect that. I completely disagree, but if you believe that, fine. Politically speaking though, being 100% anti-abortion is a loser. A big, big loser. Look at the polling link I posed above. It's not even close.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:37 PM (dfLY4)

299 I'll go first . Rut time here in Alberta . Drove through a hell of a snowstorm Saturday morning in the dark to see jack squat until near dark . Three buds took nice bucks Friday in the same area I was hunting . Having to work really does get in the way of fun . Fun part of the day was watching my son shoot a .22 for the first time , he was pumped . He's 12 .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 20, 2013 06:37 PM (XWw96)

300 I thought the tuxedo jackets made that Joe Boxer ad real klassy.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:38 PM (zDsvJ)

301 No. It's what happens when you study biology.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

Wait, you studied biology TOO? Along with Ethics and Accounting? I believe you have said that you are an accountant?

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 20, 2013 06:38 PM (v6hyJ)

302 Maybe if they weren't running it during family movies. Oh well at least it isn't the thin trojan ads.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 06:38 PM (RZ8pf)

303 "I can't help but notice everyone who is in favor of abortion has already been born." --Reagan *Mic drop* Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at November 20, 2013 10:33 PM This

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 06:38 PM (JMmQ9)

304 Can't we calm things down and talk about the war between the states? Posted by: Thunderb ------------------------------- Well played.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:38 PM (4Mv1T)

305 These Feral Youth are creating another generation of Feral Youth who will be 10 times worse that what preceeded them. So pretty much the society in A Clockwork Orange. btw, you know what might be the best way to deter the "Knockout Game"? An armed citizenry. Posted by: Thrawn at November 20, 2013 10:36 PM (ZyqBH) _________ So wouldn't abortions be a cure for this? What's better for society? 16 year old mothers or 16 year olds having abortions? Hmmm...

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:39 PM (dfLY4)

306 Great ONT Maet!
I am a regular visitor to the Hornet. Not too bad to visit except you have to go thru a bit of Oakland to get there.

Posted by: navybrat at November 20, 2013 06:39 PM (h77Mi)

307
Marcotte wasn't always so concerned about the survival of microorganisms.

http://tinyurl.com/ljqlnwm

'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2013 06:39 PM (MBqvE)

308 Damn Yankees!

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:39 PM (zDsvJ)

309 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2013 06:40 PM (JawqV)

310 I've never been so happy to be "on the losing side" of anything. La la la! Abortion is willfully taking a life. If you accept that, and can live with it, I understand that it's within your power (with the help of a doctor). Whatever. Enjoy. (This is Camille Paglia's position - it's murder, sure, but a woman should be able to exercise this option regarding a tiny person who is directly physically dependent on her body.) But if you spout "clump of cells" BS - !!!! Oooo that makes me crazy. OWN. YOUR. FETICIDE. Own it.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 06:40 PM (EZNxq)

311 Woooo!! The Pens win 4-0 against the Caps! Heh!! SNBC had that Rivalry show on before the game (its pretty good). The Pens have tormented the Caps, especially in the playoffs, for years. They didn't even show former Caps coach Schoenfield blowing a gasket and screaming at ole Eddie Johnston and that assistant whose name I cant remember (he played on the Islanders team that won 4 straight SCs). I thought they were going to go at it.

Posted by: puddleglum at November 20, 2013 06:40 PM (d+Wjy)

312 Wait, you studied biology TOO? Along with Ethics and Accounting? I believe you have said that you are an accountant? Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 20, 2013 10:38 PM (v6hyJ) __________ Yeah I took biology in high school. Why is this such a shock? And I took several accounting courses in college, although I am not an accountant. Anything else?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:40 PM (dfLY4)

313 How about the coming war between the states with one side armed with longbows and the other with crossbows?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 20, 2013 06:40 PM (oFCZn)

314 I saw the CrazyRussianHacker video on how to open a can without a can opener the other day. Rub the top on concrete and squeeze. The top just pops off.

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 06:41 PM (k55Fc)

315 298 Can't we calm things down and talk about the war ~~between the states~~ of North Aggression? Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 10:37 PM (zOTsN) FIFY.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:41 PM (0FSuD)

316 So it's no wonder the Canadians have a rule that you have to eat a grain product at every single meal.
I do it with beer.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 06:41 PM (fIgFc)

317

So wouldn't abortions be a cure for this?

What's better for society? 16 year old mothers or 16 year olds having abortions? Hmmm...

16 year old mothers, obviously. Quite normal for most of history, including the US prior to 1900.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 20, 2013 06:41 PM (XtD9y)

318 Grant: "Grab yer crossbows, bitches!" Lee: "It's longbows or I'm outta here, jack-offs"

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:41 PM (AO9UG)

319 How about that last play in the Patriots vs Panthers game? I could see that call going either way. Frankly, even with the replay, where it was clear the contact began before the ball was intercepted, I think you still have to decide if that ball was catchable. I admit enjoying the Patriots being on the losing end of a call for once. Especially given how dirty they were playing.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:41 PM (zDsvJ)

320 Coulter's right. Any woman who gets a late term abortion should at least go on some sort of list, like with child molesters. There should be a map so you can see if any monsters like that are in your neighborhood. And they probably shouldn't be allowed around children. I know I wouldn't want any woman who would butcher her own child to be near mine.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 06:41 PM (ZPrif)

321 Whatever. Enjoy. (This is Camille Paglia's position - it's murder, sure, but a woman should be able to exercise this option regarding a tiny person who is directly physically dependent on her body.) But if you spout "clump of cells" BS - !!!! Oooo that makes me crazy. OWN. YOUR. FETICIDE. Own it. Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 10:40 PM (EZNxq) ___________ It's not murder. And anywhere from 60 to 80% of the public agrees.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:42 PM (dfLY4)

322 >>> Anything else? Have you considered my course, My friend?

Posted by: Dale Carnegie at November 20, 2013 06:42 PM (xDGmz)

323 Try this thought experiment. Any woman who asks for an abortion is instead killed while the uterus is supported until the child can be born. Explain to me why that is not morally equivalent to abortion.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at November 20, 2013 06:42 PM (ZRv7F)

324 The troll is in Brooklyn. Take that for what its worth regarding the usefulness of their "advice".

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 06:42 PM (Xlbr8)

325 >>The people who have a hard on for killing 25 week old fetuses are fucked up. And they are a small minority.

You mean Senator Dick Blumenthal and his fellow Dem Senators?
See his Women's Health Protection Act: http://preview.tinyurl.com/n5z82dv

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 06:42 PM (JRmiD)

326 "But my point is very few people - under 25% - see killing an 8 year old the same as killing an 8 week old fetus. " Ok that was a number pulled completely from your ass, but hey let's go with it. Can the Republican party ever win another election if they lose 25% of the population's vote right off the top? No. Clearly they can not. The point that you're missing is that most people who are pro-choice are only marginally and uncomfortably pro-choice and rank it very low on their list of important issues. People who are pro-life, on the other hand, are enthusiastically and emphatically pro-life and rank it very highly on their list of important issues. So high, in fact, that they consider it a necessary (although not sufficient, they aren't idiots despite what you believe) condition for a politician to win their vote. Thus, it far easier for a pro-life politician to bring in the votes of marginally and basically apathetically pro-choicers than for a pro-choice politician to bring in the votes of any pro-lifers.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:42 PM (hFL/3)

327 I am a regular visitor to the Hornet. Not too bad to visit except you have to go thru a bit of Oakland to get there.

Posted by: navybrat

Different Hornet, Essex class ship. The Hornet from the Doolittle Raid was sunk off Guadalcanal. You may already have known that, but just pointing it out.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 20, 2013 06:43 PM (v6hyJ)

328 Convenient backpedal - now it's just politics, not an actual argument that infectious bacteria are the biological equivalent of a human fetus. Let's just forget about the "you people" and the "clump of cells" commentary, and focus on the polls. Own your charnel house, you cretin. This is what you believe in. Don't back up now.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 06:43 PM (bTnE9)

329 8 month old - keel it 8 year old - nah 18 year old - is it ok to kill now, if you're the mommy? I'm seriously trying to understand?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 06:43 PM (EZNxq)

330 So when did Moo Moo switch from general contrarian to concern troll?

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 20, 2013 06:43 PM (XkotV)

331 btw, you know what might be the best way to deter the "Knockout Game"? An armed citizenry.

Posted by: Thrawn at November 20, 2013 10:36 PM (ZyqBH)

__________________

It's gonna happen. Then the race warriors will fire up their grievance machines and make LeAffair du Zimmerman look like childs play.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 20, 2013 06:43 PM (jucos)

332 16 year old mothers, obviously. Quite normal for most of history, including the US prior to 1900. Posted by: Grey Fox at November 20, 2013 10:41 PM (XtD9y) _________ You're serious? You think society is better off with a single mother on welfare whose kid is almost guaranteed to be on welfare and/or in jail. This is better than the 16 year old having an abortion? Are you fucking insane?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:44 PM (dfLY4)

333 299 Look at the polling link I posed above. It's not even close So, I guess we should be dem lite, don't have any core beliefs or values, flutter in the wind? SSM fine, abortion? Ok. Single payer health care? Wonderful. Go have biology with your right hand or in your case, left

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:44 PM (HVff2)

334 It's not murder. And anywhere from 60 to 80% of the public agrees. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo ------------------------------------- I am remembering a story about a couple of cities that had statistics like that. Oh YEA! Sodom and Gomorrah. Dismiss them at your own peril, heathen.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:44 PM (4Mv1T)

335 @315 Open a bottle of wine with a shoe! http://tinyurl.com/b8nrep7

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:44 PM (0FSuD)

336 171 Oh no not jones in co too. I really liked him. So many of my favorites are gone.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 10:11 PM (RZ8pf)

I'm going to put up my usual blurb about AoS banninations --

AoS is superior to other websites with banhammers in that you can usually: (1) wait for the specific issue to blow over and feathers to unruffle; (2) send an Email of Contrition to Ace -- which works better if you (a) don't re-argue the issue, (b) don't re-argue the banning, (c) acknowledge Ace's proprietary rights to his website, (d) communicate understanding of what precisely you screwed up, (e) express remorse, and (f) have a reasonably plausible plan for it not to happen again; and (3) keep reminding Ace and/or his cob-loggers of your desire to rejoin the Horde (as actual nuts-and-bolts blog business is usually right around priority #38 to TPTB).

Seen it work dozens of times, some really great people have been banned and have successfully returned.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 06:44 PM (T1005)

337 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 09:54 PM (BXhlo)

You are correct! I forgot the old battlecruiser- turned- carrier, the Cinderella that always missed the Ball!

Saratoga, Ranger (CV-4 - only deployed in the Atlantic and Med) and Enterprise were the three pre-war carriers to survive the war. Enterprise and Ranger ended up scrapped, Saratoga is still at Bikini.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 06:44 PM (gmoEG)

338 Baylor or A&M? I did both! Baylor Â— 1982, Chemistry A&M Â— 1984, Chemical Engineering Unfortunately, the oil industry collapsed in 1983 and my dreams of going to Saudi and making big tax-free bucks never materialized. I wound up in the environmental field, started a consulting firm, and did well, but it took longer than I expected.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you must call me Chelsea at November 20, 2013 06:44 PM (7cS5n)

339 >>331 So when did Moo Moo switch from general contrarian to concern troll? Concern troll nose on, concern troll nose off. Srsly, though, I've seen this on and off from the beginning.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:45 PM (zDsvJ)

340 Crap, now I'm about 150 comments behind....

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 06:45 PM (T1005)

341 I guess I just don't get Moo moo's whole conception (no pun intended) of the world and morality. We've all discussed it to death (no pun intended), so I'll leave it.

Posted by: kalneva at November 20, 2013 06:45 PM (XyrkB)

342 wait, if I know that murdering someone is murder, but 80% of (rationalizing, selfish) people disagree, I'm somehow supposed to change my mind then? again, trying to grok this

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 06:45 PM (EZNxq)

343 Ok that was a number pulled completely from your ass, but hey let's go with it. Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 10:42 PM (hFL/3) ___________ Read the polling data. http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm Show me one poll where more than 25% say abortion should be 100% illegal. If anything I was being too generous with 25%, it's more like 15-20%.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:45 PM (dfLY4)

344 309 Damn Yankees!Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 10:39 PM (zDsvJ)
What ever Lola wants. Lola gets.

Posted by: Arne Duncan at November 20, 2013 06:45 PM (ozktE)

345 I have a copy of that Hornet and B-25 photo signed by Lt. Cole hanging on the wall in my office. I like it even more now. May God bless them all.

Posted by: CMU VET at November 20, 2013 06:46 PM (ejB0r)

346

Mr. Moo Moo, can you name a state that the GOP would win if they purge the social conservative element? Do you think the GOP would lose their stronghold on Southern states if they did so?

Posted by: 10271120 at November 20, 2013 06:46 PM (yTpEe)

347 So when did Moo Moo switch from general contrarian to concern troll? Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 10:43 PM (XkotV) He's been a troll from Day One. He pretends otherwise and tries to mingle, but if you push the right button, he flips out. So far I have seen three effective buttons: guns, abortion, and privileges for elites.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 06:46 PM (AO9UG)

348 "You're serious? You think society is better off with a single mother on welfare whose kid is almost guaranteed to be on welfare and/or in jail. This is better than the 16 year old having an abortion?" Oh Hai, Mr. Moo Moo!

Posted by: Margaret Sanger and the Eugenic Band at November 20, 2013 06:46 PM (hFL/3)

349 343 wait, if I know that murdering someone is murder, but 80% of (rationalizing, selfish) people disagree, I'm somehow supposed to change my mind then? again, trying to grok this Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 10:45 PM (EZNxq) _____________ It's not murder. A small minority of people thinks it is. Just like a small minority of people thinks Elvis is alive and the moon landing never happened. Just because a few people think something exists, does not make it so. And no I am not saying you and Elvis believers are equal. I am making an analogy.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:47 PM (dfLY4)

350 I don't know why arsenio hall is back on television?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 06:47 PM (RZ8pf)

351 Ritz crackers, essentially starch plus grease, and salt. Potatoes, starch, water, and some vitamins. Spuds win. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ------------------- Spuds win! Spuds win! Spuds win!

Posted by: Skip Caray at November 20, 2013 06:47 PM (aDwsi)

352 So when did Moo Moo switch from general contrarian to concern troll?

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch

Moo Moo? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at November 20, 2013 06:47 PM (v6hyJ)

353 that was a funny left-on Arnie Duncan sock up there btw that dude better WATCH OUT for me I'm a White Suburban Mom . . . WITH FISTS OF STEEL

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 06:48 PM (EZNxq)

354 Thus, it far easier for a pro-life politician to bring in the votes of marginally and basically apathetically pro-choicers

To do that they have to STFU during the campaign and probably 10 years prior and avoid touching the third rail so it doesn't become an "issue". Once its an "issue", they lose all control over the media narrative, and well.....you get a Terry McAuliffe as VA gov.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 06:48 PM (Xlbr8)

355 How to open bottle of wine with key. http://tinyurl.com/nwas37t

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:48 PM (0FSuD)

356 "If anything I was being too generous with 25%, it's more like 15-20%." And the Republicans could lose 15-20% of the population(and again, I add, their base) and still win an election. Remind me again. What was the % spread between Romney and Obama?

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:49 PM (hFL/3)

357 If I make an inane analogy that equates two non-analogous things, do I then know what ANALOGY means?!?!! wtf! Publick skool, amirite?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 06:49 PM (EZNxq)

358 So when did Moo Moo switch from general contrarian to concern troll? Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 10:43 PM I wasn't going to say anything, but since you mentioned it...

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 06:49 PM (JMmQ9)

359 I can't believe I missed the Arte Johnson thread earlier. I was kind of mad about that whole deal missed my rant - damn work

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 06:50 PM (EZNxq)

360 He pretends otherwise and tries to mingle, but if you push the right button, he flips out. So far I have seen three effective buttons: guns, abortion, and privileges for elites. Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 10:46 PM (AO9UG) ___________ I am a fiscal conservative who hates religious busy bodies who feel the need to tell others how to live. I am very pro fun, I just think there's no need for anyone to own an AR-15 (and yes I know all the arguments about why you're entitled to own 100 AR-15s, no need to tell me) Privileges for elites? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean, do I think a college education is important, sure, I guess I am one of those evil elite people too.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:50 PM (dfLY4)

361 So when did Moo Moo switch from general contrarian to concern troll?

I'm not not talking about moo. I'm talking about the 1-post drive-by offering position strategy based on bullshit data.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 06:50 PM (Xlbr8)

362 LOL...pro gun, which I suppose is also pro-fun for some people

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:51 PM (dfLY4)

363 Seen it work dozens of times, some really great people have been banned and have successfully returned. Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 10:44 PM (T1005) Or get a new IP.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:51 PM (0FSuD)

364 Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 10:41 PM (zDsvJ) As far as I know, the nfl doesn't have the unwatchable rule. I didn't have a dog in the Mnf game, but holding is holding. Illegal contact is illegal contact.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:51 PM (HVff2)

365 I don't know why arsenio hall is back on television?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle

Would you rather he was at your house?

Everyone will have their own talk show for at least 15 minutes. Content. The cables need content.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 20, 2013 06:51 PM (v6hyJ)

366 "Just because a few people think something exists, does not make it so." Except for the fact that we are right, by scientific, ethical, and constitutional measure. Look, you know you're on the wrong side of the issue when we can point to an A&P textbook's definition of conception and life and all you can do is sputter "GLOB! GLOOOOOBBBB!"

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:51 PM (hFL/3)

367 Hey horde. Leaving tomorrow for deer camp, should be fun. Hopefully I wont get skunked this year.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 20, 2013 06:51 PM (GaqMa)

368 I like the key method better than the shoe, Nip Sip. That guy cracks me up.

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 06:51 PM (k55Fc)

369 Arsenio's back because of The Donald so blame him

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 06:52 PM (EZNxq)

370 Spuds win! Spuds win! Spuds win! Posted by: Skip Caray at November 20, 2013 10:47 PM (aDwsi)
Looking for that real tomato.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 20, 2013 06:52 PM (ozktE)

371
A war between the states with Pollock armed with longbows against Cod armed with crossbows.......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2013 06:52 PM (MBqvE)

372 "USS Hornet ( CV-8 ) was not a true Yorktown class carrier. She was slightly bigger with greater tonnage. Most noticeable change was in her island which differed from that of Yorktown and Enterprise"

Ships are not exact carbon copies of each other (as you well know! I am not lecturing or condescending; I merely wish to expand on my comment from the foothold your comment has given me.) Ships are constructed, and when a lead ship is run the problems discovered on the shakedown and initial operations are adjusted in subsequent members of the class. The USN Brooklyn class light cruisers had two near sisters - St. Louis and Helena. The major difference is that the Brooklyn's had 5" guns in four open single mounts along the sides; whereas the St. Louis class had the 5" mounts in twin gunhouses, two to a side. Mechanically and in every other important specification they were the same ships, but that difference in how the secondary armament was arranged split them into two classes.*

*IIRC the Brooklyn's had 5"/47 caliber guns where the St. Louis' had 5"38 caliber guns. It is late and I am a few beers to the good and I do not want to dig out that book on US Cruisers.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 06:53 PM (gmoEG)

373 Ten Germans try to say the word "squirrel"
Wasn't great but I watched it all the way through.
That's hilarious you should mention that. A young German woman was working as a waitress at a bar/restaurant that I like and she asked what those little animals with the big cheeks and who hold their arms like this (putting her hands/arms into a squirrel pose) are called? I think she might have said 'brown' too as I told her the brown ones with stripes are called 'chipmunks' but the grey and black ones are called 'squirrels'. And she repeated the word several times in a very cute way. Before she returned to Germany (her dad faked being ill to get her to return!) with her spouse (who was a good guy and worked for Mercedes-Benz's Canadian branch) by chance I got some photos of squirrels in our front yard including one where completely by chance I caught it in mid-air while it was running across the road.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 06:53 PM (fIgFc)

374 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:50 PM (dfLY4) And if I remember right, he is also the poster who believes that the Ivy League schools are so much superior to lowly state schools. Yup look how well those Ivy leaguers are running our country

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:53 PM (HVff2)

375 Personally, I find cubesats much more interesting than arguments about abortion. But that's just me, I guess.

Posted by: rickl at November 20, 2013 06:53 PM (sdi6R)

376 Except for the fact that we are right, by scientific, ethical, and constitutional measure. Look, you know you're on the wrong side of the issue when we can point to an A&P textbook's definition of conception and life and all you can do is sputter "GLOB! GLOOOOOBBBB!" Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 10:51 PM (hFL/3) ____________ It doesn't really matter who is right or wrong. What matters is that your position costs votes. And those votes cost me money in the form of higher taxes. That' what it comes down to. Your zealous views on abortion means more Democrats get elected which means higher taxes. Stop it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:53 PM (dfLY4)

377 Leaving tomorrow for deer camp, should be fun. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 20, 2013 10:51 PM (GaqMa)
Do the deer sleep in a tent?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 20, 2013 06:53 PM (ozktE)

378 It's not murder. And anywhere from 60 to 80% of the public agrees. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:42 PM (dfLY4) I bet I can get 60-80% of the people in the projects to agree that George Zimmerman had it coming, too. Your numbers are meaningless. Does a fetus have homo sapiens DNA or not? Is it alive? At the moment it is no longer alive, it has gone from a living homo sapiens to a dead homo sapiens. Homicide, actually. You may consider it justifiable homicide, but it is indeed killing a human being. Own it.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 06:54 PM (bTnE9)

379 How to open bottle of wine with key. http://tinyurl.com/nwas37t Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 10:48 PM Wine, whiskey, beer, whatever. At any given time, I have something on my person to crack that bitch.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 06:54 PM (JMmQ9)

380 I'm out. Moo the bovine bloviator is making me ill.

Posted by: CMU VET at November 20, 2013 06:54 PM (ejB0r)

381 As far as I know, the nfl doesn't have the unwatchable rule. I didn't have a dog in the Mnf game, but holding is holding. Illegal contact is illegal contact. -- I think had the pass not been so under thrown, the Patriots might have gotten the call. But what the NFL officiating dude I watched said was that simple contact is not enough. It has to be impeding his progress to the ball. So I think that's where the judgment is. Contact started before the INT, but not sure Gronk (?) was stopped from going for a catchable ball.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:54 PM (zDsvJ)

382 Plus I'd like to know I live in a society where a woman gets to decide how many kids she will have, not a church. Crazy stuff, I know.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:55 PM (dfLY4)

383 It doesn't really matter who is right or wrong. What matters is that your position costs votes. And those votes cost me money in the form of higher taxes. That' what it comes down to. Your zealous views on abortion means more Democrats get elected which means higher taxes. Stop it. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo ------------------------------------------- It does matter who is right and wrong. It is all that matters.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 06:55 PM (4Mv1T)

384 As far as I know, the nfl doesn't have the unwatchable rule. I didn't have a dog in the Mnf game, but holding is holding. Illegal contact is illegal contact. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 10:51 PM (HVff2) Yeah, and a LOSS is a LOSS. Can not believe I left the game early. I am a fucking idiot.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:55 PM (0FSuD)

385 *four open mounts along each side for eight total; as opposed to eight guns in twin gunhouses, two mounts on each side.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 06:55 PM (gmoEG)

386 Just looking at that Doolittle plane taking off in the middle of the sea scares the shit out of me, guys who can do that got big brass ones.

Posted by: booger at November 20, 2013 06:55 PM (xRDdL)

387 ". What matters is that your position costs votes. And those votes cost me money in the form of higher taxes. That' what it comes down to. Your zealous views on abortion means more Democrats get elected which means higher taxes. Stop it." So no answer to the fact that your math doesn't add up? If I "stop it" and we all go full baby killer, your taxes are still going up, hoss.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 06:55 PM (hFL/3)

388 Well arsenio wouldn't be my first choice for a celebrity in my house. So ok, he can stay on my teevee

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 06:55 PM (RZ8pf)

389 So is this Palin Steele v 2.0?

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:55 PM (zDsvJ)

390

I keep trying to get out, but they keep dragging me back in.

Damn Honkies. Damn Donald Trump.

I just wanted to be a hairdresser and open a nail salon.

Posted by: Arsenio Hall, reluctanct TV personality at November 20, 2013 06:56 PM (v6hyJ)

391 Television sucks so much (Arsenio Hall) was inadvertently dragged back?

Hey folks, it's getting even worse. Last I heard, yet another retread of The Brady Bunch is on its way to first-run TV.

I guess Walter White left us too soon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 20, 2013 06:56 PM (T/XcG)

392 And if I remember right, he is also the poster who believes that the Ivy League schools are so much superior to lowly state schools. Yup look how well those Ivy leaguers are running our country Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 10:53 PM (HVff2) _________ You remember well. And yes Ivy Leagues are better than No Name State U. Sorry to break the news to you. But when's the last time you heard a kid say, I hope I get into Northeastern Arkansas State vs. I hope I get into Yale? Yeah me neither.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:56 PM (dfLY4)

393 but I know that there will be an Aiken out there ready to say something beyond idiotic Believe me, sweetums, there's nobody out there that possibly surpass you in the saying something beyond idiotic category.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at November 20, 2013 06:56 PM (Ht99Q)

394 4 I suppose then that Marcunt must now remove any objections to any war, since any war would kill less than Billions?

Do I have that right?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 20, 2013 09:25 PM (lh89W)

Don't be silly. The lesson is that the REAL tragedy of Amanda's eventual death is all the micro-organisms living inside her that would die too.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at November 20, 2013 06:57 PM (8OfdL)

395 Wait what? Arsenio is back on TV? Fer realz?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:57 PM (dfLY4)

396 388 Just looking at that Doolittle plane taking off in the middle of the sea scares the shit out of me, guys who can do that got big brass ones. Posted by: booger at November 20, 2013 10:55 PM (xRDdL) They didn't tell ANY of the crew where they were going when they left San Fran. There is a great picture somewhere of the carrier full of B-25 sailing under the Golden Gate bridge.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 06:57 PM (0FSuD)

397

You're serious? You think society is better off with a single mother on welfare whose kid is almost guaranteed to be on welfare and/or in jail.

This is better than the 16 year old having an abortion?

Are you fucking insane?

16 year olds have been getting married and having kids for millennia, and societies - including the early United States - have got along just fine. The problem is not teen mothers, the problem is unwed mothers, and that problem is directly attributable to the same sexual libertinism that abortion is part of and that you are defending.

Frankly, I imagine that even unwed mothers on welfare are less socially destructive that teen-agers who are fine with designating their children "nonhuman" and killing them. It is more difficult to measure that kind of destruction, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 20, 2013 06:57 PM (XtD9y)

398 Except for the fact that we are right, by scientific, ethical, and constitutional measure.

That's fine, but the electorate is largely ignorant of science, ethical concerns are of little consequence for them, and most couldn't identify key passages of the constitution if you put a gun to their heads.

Reason doesn't win elections. Bullshit and lies, and (very) occasionally reflexive reactions to hard personally experienced pain wins elections.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 06:57 PM (Xlbr8)

399 I still miss Johnny Carson.

Does anyone think he would still be alive if he could still do The Tonight Show? I wonder sometimes. Not that he would be anywhere near the same, but still.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 20, 2013 06:57 PM (T/XcG)

400 Where you going tsrbike? I'm leaving for deer camp tomorrow as well in northern WI. Good luck & have a safe hunt.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 06:57 PM (HVff2)

401 Personally, I find cubesats much more interesting than arguments about abortion. But that's just me, I guess. Posted by: rickl ----------- Eight second germane video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 06:57 PM (aDwsi)

402 A little sentimental for the ONT but I just want to express how happy I am to be able to post prolife things here, even if I get arguments back (I don't mind that, really I don't!) - because I can't ever say anything prolife IRL And I'm RC. And my kids are in RC schools. I can talk to nuns and priests about such things safely; that's about it. That's where we are.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 06:58 PM (EZNxq)

403 391 So is this Palin Steele v 2.0?

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 10:55 PM (zDsvJ)

Personally, feels quite familiar.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 06:58 PM (lVPtV)

404 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 20, 2013 10:53 PM (ozktE) If only. although I'm told they found a possible trail next to the old dump. It's close to the cabin which is nice.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at November 20, 2013 06:58 PM (GaqMa)

405 And the Republicans could lose 15-20% of the population(and again, I add, their base) and still win an election. Remind me again. What was the % spread between Romney and Obama? Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 10:49 PM (hFL/3) ____________ So you think all the uber religious Republicans would vote for the Democrat if the GOP backed off the insane pro-life stance and instead adopted a more moderate stance? Come on. That's ludicrous.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 06:58 PM (dfLY4)

406 Why bother going out to the woods to hunt deer? Come to Highland, Utah. (Link in nick.)

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:58 PM (zDsvJ)

407 The best news about Marcotte is that she was effectively neutered politically and with regard to her influence, by the fact that she hitched her wagon to John Edwards (gag) back in 2004.

Nowadays I'd say she's like an ultraangryfeminist Woody Allen... the same 900 womyn keep coming back to her for more, and no more.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 20, 2013 06:59 PM (T/XcG)

408 Personally, feels quite familiar. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 10:58 PM Yeah, I see that. Maturity level of a 12 y.o.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 06:59 PM (zDsvJ)

409 when regulars go troll

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 06:59 PM (ZPrif)

410 "Different Hornet, Essex class ship. The Hornet from the Doolittle Raid was sunk off Guadalcanal. You may already have known that, but just pointing it out."

Knew it, forgot it until now.
Thanks for the reminder.
I think there have been more than a few ships named "Hornet" and "Wasp".

Posted by: navybrat at November 20, 2013 06:59 PM (h77Mi)

411 a deer wiped his nose on my car last night when I was getting the mail I guess he had allergies?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:00 PM (EZNxq)

412 Don't be silly. The lesson is that the REAL tragedy of Amanda's eventual death is all the micro-organisms living inside her that would die too.

But think of the decayers that will feast upon her corpse. They gotta live, too.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2013 07:00 PM (JawqV)

413
The military is also interested in them as a means to quickly and cheaply deploy satellites for specific missions on short notice.

I worked on Clementine, back in 90s. It was similar in concept. The short notice, short duration satellite was a political weapon. As in: "We just popped a 120day satellite up to improve coverage of your miserable little shithole country; so one, we are serious about kicking your ass and two, the clock is ticking - your not worth burning another candle."

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 07:00 PM (CMlD4)

414 Yeah, I see that. Maturity level of a 12 y.o. Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 10:59 PM (zDsvJ) That's an insane opinion!!11!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 07:00 PM (GEICT)

415 I can't believe Carrie underwood is doing a live sound of music on NBC. I mean I like her but she is no Julie andrews.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 07:00 PM (RZ8pf)

416 Frankly, I imagine that even unwed mothers on welfare are less socially destructive that teen-agers who are fine with designating their children "nonhuman" and killing them. It is more difficult to measure that kind of destruction, though. Posted by: Grey Fox at November 20, 2013 10:57 PM (XtD9y) _________ I honestly don't know how to respond to this. It's so bizarre, I can't tell if you're serious or just fucking with me. I really hope it's the latter.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:00 PM (dfLY4)

417 By their maggotry, you shall know them.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 07:00 PM (ZPrif)

418 Check this out. No sound that I can get. Doolittle raid. http://tinyurl.com/po89rkj

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 07:01 PM (0FSuD)

419 ". Bullshit and lies, and (very) occasionally reflexive reactions to hard personally experienced pain wins elections." How about instead of handwringing about how "extreme" pro-lifers are we talk about how Barack Obama was pro-leaving born children in a soiled utility room and the TX candidate for Governor really loves killing healthy viable babies? I've got a great story of hard personally experienced pain about my water breaking when I was 22 weeks pregnant. Yet that pain isn't allowed to be spoken, because POLITICS YOU GUYS! Bullshit.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:01 PM (hFL/3)

420 Blanco: When the day comes, Marcotte's 'decayers' will spit her entrails out shouting "OMG!! Way too bitter."

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 20, 2013 07:01 PM (T/XcG)

421 In the glass -- Saint Archer IPA. Verdict: San Diego seems like it has a "local style" of beer that's bright, hoppy, clean, and cooling. This is a nice example. Very light grain, almost with a wheat-beer effect....and nicely hopped with Cascade-like hops prominent (which hearkens back to the original IPA use of Goldings, a Cascade parent).

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 07:01 PM (T1005)

422 Bacteria are at the top of the food chain.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 07:01 PM (Xlbr8)

423 #350

You admit it is a nonsensical analogy but you use it anyway. Believing Elvis is alive is not a moral issue. It is absurd to invoke and only serves to show why you should not be taken seriously.

I'm not even strongly anti-abortion. I can accept the termination of a severely defective fetus, especially if detected in the first trimester. But I also accept that abortion as casual birth control by adults, by far the most common application, is not the mark of a healthy culture.

I'm reminded of the article that made the rounds a few years ago, written by a woman who was shocked to find that she was not only pregnant but pregnant with triplets. This was unacceptable to her, not because of any issue of health or financial means but because it would have far too much impact on her lifestyle. She wrote of being forced to move out of the big city to the suburbs and <horrors> shop at Costco. So she had two of the fetuses terminated. They were just incompatible with her urban hipster life.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2013 07:01 PM (bPxS6)

424 >>That's an insane opinion!!11! Says YOU!

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:01 PM (zDsvJ)

425 So you think all the uber religious Republicans would vote for the Democrat if the GOP backed off the insane pro-life stance and instead adopted a more moderate stance?

Come on. That's ludicrous. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

No, but would they post at 85%+ participation rates?

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 07:01 PM (CMlD4)

426 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:57 PM (dfLY4 Well, on that elitist note, I will continue to enjoy ONT without you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:02 PM (HVff2)

427 Good lord, it's a runaway ONT! My "keep up" tab is 75 behind.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 07:02 PM (T1005)

428 I think there have been more than a few ships named "Hornet" and "Wasp".

Posted by: navybrat

Yup, all the way back to the Revolutionary War.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 20, 2013 07:02 PM (v6hyJ)

429 47 Post needs more ocelot.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 20, 2013 09:44 PM (Gk3SS)

This place is like Meowschwitz.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at November 20, 2013 07:02 PM (8OfdL)

430 The most amazing thing about the Doolittle Raiders is that they took off knowing that they didn't have enough fuel to land anywhere other than China.... Maybe. It really was a suicide mission and the pilots knew it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 20, 2013 07:02 PM (jucos)

431 Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 10:53 PM (fIgFc)

My sister in law is from Colombia. The first time she saw a squirrel was in my backyard in Dearborn and she thought it was so cute.

The squirrel did nothing to disabuse her of that notion - just like a squirrel would!*

*Sorry, everything after that hyphen was me trying to be funny...ummm...I think I'll go to bed soon.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 07:02 PM (gmoEG)

432 "I am very pro fun, I just think there's no need for anyone to own an AR-15 (and yes I know all the arguments about why you're entitled to own 100 AR-15s, no need to tell me) " All right, you degenerate c-sucker, that's it. I own many firearms but no ARs or semis. But, I will fight for anyone's right to do so if they like. Owning an AR or any firearm is not about "fun." Jeezus, you are mind puddy. People like yourself are why many do own them. The stupid they see around them every day scares the shit out of them and they say "the stupid is too prevalent, how do I protect us from it?" The answer? Arm yourself against the stupid.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 20, 2013 07:02 PM (qNLBk)

433 "So you think all the uber religious Republicans would vote for the Democrat if the GOP backed off the insane pro-life stance and instead adopted a more moderate stance? " No. They wouldn't vote at all. Or they'd form a 3rd party. Or they'd start a revolution. None of those puts Republicans in power.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:03 PM (hFL/3)

434 Says YOU! Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 11:01 PM (zDsvJ) Your insane opinion is driving away commenters!!! When will you fucking get it???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 07:03 PM (GEICT)

435 How about instead of handwringing about how "extreme" pro-lifers are we talk about how Barack Obama was pro-leaving born children in a soiled utility room and the TX candidate for Governor really loves killing healthy viable babies? Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 11:01 PM (hFL/3) ____________ Talk about it all you want. Nobody outside the anti-abortion echo chamber gives a shit.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:03 PM (dfLY4)

436 Epobirs I'll never forget that essay - it got me more blog traffic (I eviscerated her) than anything else I ever wrote about. It's inhuman to use abortion as "birth control." Abortion may at times be necessary. But we must NEVER - not ever! - forget it is murdering a person. That's what it is. And, by the way, women know that. Women aren't actually stupid.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:03 PM (EZNxq)

437 @BC: A Ginger with not sharp elbows covered in bacon. I have seen all I need to see tonight. Ya'll have fun and I'll catch you tomorrow.

Posted by: tbodie at November 20, 2013 07:04 PM (ndxIr)

438 welp, Moo! just said "anti-abortion" so that's a tell

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:04 PM (EZNxq)

439 >>Your insane opinion is driving away commenters!!! When will you fucking get it??? I took poli sci in tenth grade, you moron!

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:04 PM (zDsvJ)

440 I guess Walter White left us too soon.
A friend told us that a guy at his work was trying to convince a coworker who'd only seen season five of Breaking Bad that he had to watch all of the series from the beginning to see Walter's transformation and that there was a prequel called Malcolm In The Middle that he should watch first too.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 07:05 PM (fIgFc)

441 Bacteria are at the top of the food chain. Posted by: Purp at November 20, 2013 11:01 PM (Xlbr

Yep. They are the true owners of this planet. Of course we can go somewhere else and then hammer the Earth with asteroids and they can't, but we would have to take them with us wherever we went or we would perish.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 07:05 PM (AO9UG)

442 "Nobody outside the anti-abortion echo chamber gives a shit." Are you fucking kidding me? Go back to the link you posted, dumbass. No scroll down and look at the people who support bans at 20 and 24 weeks vs those who support no bans. Huh. Crazy. Looks like a whole lot of people give a shit about killing viable children.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:05 PM (hFL/3)

443 426 >>That's an insane opinion!!11!

Says YOU!
Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 11:01 PM (zDsvJ)

Calm the FUCK down you two or I swear to God I will pull this ONT over and administer some Official Justice on both of ya!!!

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 20, 2013 07:05 PM (XkotV)

444 She wrote of being forced to move out of the big city to the suburbs and <horrors> shop at Costco. Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2013 11:01 PM (bPxS6)
But that's the "upscale" Sam's Club.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 20, 2013 07:05 PM (ozktE)

445 I took poli sci in tenth grade, you moron! Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 11:04 PM (zDsvJ) And I took Intro to Psychology my freshman year at Cornell (Ag) you wingnut!!!11!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 07:05 PM (GEICT)

446 Imagine going to a movie theater in 1942 and seeing this shit. Would you be pumped up? http://tinyurl.com/pd9x2lu

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 07:06 PM (0FSuD)

447 Moo Moo supports the killing of living organisms of species homo sapiens for convenience. It's really as simple as that. Don't be distracted by the "political" argument. It's pretty easy to see that's the fallback position of someone who really doesn't want to admit he's a slaughterhouse cheerleader.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 07:06 PM (bTnE9)

448 ...we talk about how Barack Obama was pro-leaving born children in a soiled utility room...

You'll only be preaching to the choir. The Gosnell should have been ample evidence to start that national "conversation", yet.... *crickets*.

It was a "local story".

Unless you control media, you have no control over narrative. That's a hard reality.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 07:06 PM (Xlbr8)

449 >>Calm the FUCK down you two or I swear to God I will pull this ONT over and administer some Official Justice on both of ya!! HE STARTED IT!

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:06 PM (zDsvJ)

450 You're serious? You think society is better off with a single mother on welfare whose kid is almost guaranteed to be on welfare and/or in jail.

This is better than the 16 year old having an abortion?

Are you fucking insane? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

Why does she have to be a single mother? Rip the welfare edifice down, and if she and the father can't support the child - take the child for adoption. Abortion and welfare are safety nets for irresponsible lifestyle choices, change both.

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 07:06 PM (CMlD4)

451 No. They wouldn't vote at all. Or they'd form a 3rd party. Or they'd start a revolution. None of those puts Republicans in power. Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 11:03 PM (hFL/3) __________ If they're too stupid to realize a super majority for Dems would mean unfettered abortion across the land....let them. Or...they can stay within a more centrist GOP on abortion. Their choice.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:07 PM (dfLY4)

452 Calm the FUCK down you two or I swear to God I will pull this ONT over and administer some Official Justice on both of ya!!! Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 11:05 PM (XkotV) Don't you tell me how to live my commenting life!!! It's my choice, not yours!!! I hate my father!!!!!11!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 07:07 PM (GEICT)

453 "The most amazing thing about the Doolittle Raiders is that they took off knowing that they didn't have enough fuel to land anywhere other than China.... Maybe. It really was a suicide mission and the pilots knew it." Yes, it was for most who understood what was going on. You did what you had to do. A statement was to be made and it was worth the lives involved. That's military service. The result would be worth the price paid. They all took off expecting to hit back at Japan......but varying expectations of making it out alive.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 20, 2013 07:07 PM (qNLBk)

454

Standing by to be edumucated by Anna, MTW, Mike H., or other WWII geeks - but I believe that the Doolittle Raid actually had an effect on the fateful Midway decision by the Japanese. Whether it was material to the actual course of events, or just added some weight to one side in the debate, I don't know (my fault for not taking the time to look into it more).

But basically: the Army was very un-keen on Yamamoto's idea of provoking the US carrier forces into action, so as to finally sink them, by occupying Midway. My incomplete understanding is that the events of April 16 at the least added to Yamamoto's argument - the humiliating attack, the threat to the Imperial Presence it represented - these could not be permitted to occur again. The US carriers must be sunk, at last, and Yamamoto's huge and bold operation would probably achieve that objective.

Oh - and sorry I came late (typically) to the ONT discussion of the Graf Spee the other night. My own related anecdote: in 1985 I was in Buenos Aires, and some local contacts took me to a German restaurant on Calle Lavalle (one of the pedestrian avenues back then, along with Calle Florida, I think?). Name of the place was ABC. Waiters were notably old, and had heavy accents in Spanish. My contacts told me some of the waiters were crewmen from the Graf Spee. Interned by Geneva rules in Montevideo, but of course slipped over to B.A. easily. Don't know if it was true, but have always kicked myself for not going back to try and do an article on the story in the next few months.

Posted by: non-purist at November 20, 2013 07:07 PM (afQnV)

455 1 Billion dog-eating Chinese correctly agree- grits isn't food.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 07:07 PM (X9Mnx)

456 How about instead of handwringing about how "extreme" anti-totalitarians are we talk about how Adolph Hitler was pro-leaving humans in a gas chamber and the Chairman of the Communist Party in China really loves having his own citizens inform on and kill their fellow citizens? Talk about it all you want. Nobody outside the anti-totalitarian echo chamber gives a shit.

Posted by: Moo Moo's Logic at November 20, 2013 07:07 PM (Ht99Q)

457 Calm the FUCK down you two or I swear to God I will pull this ONT over and administer some Official Justice on both of ya!!!

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 11:05 PM (XkotV)

I've been naughty, will you spank me, too?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:07 PM (lVPtV)

458 Unless you control media, you have no control over narrative. That's a hard reality. very true, Purp. why just today, my state leg (R, btw) and gov got by a "transportation bill" with a gas tax increase of 28c per gallon!!! and no one in PA knew they were even doing it. no one heard about it. no one knows. they'll just wonder why gas is so effing pricey here, I guess the press buried the entire thing

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:08 PM (EZNxq)

459 Mr Moo, your pro-choice argument about the fear of rampant criminals is basically Margaret Sanger's position -- its nice to see the mask drop off occasionally.

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 07:08 PM (CMlD4)

460 It really was a suicide mission and the pilots knew it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner

I read a book about the raid as a child "30 Seconds Over Tokyo", and they had contigency plans for an early launch.

They knew they would be short of the intended landing fields, but most of them still reached or got close to China.

Brave men. There was a war on.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 20, 2013 07:08 PM (v6hyJ)

461 "Unless you control media, you have no control over narrative. That's a hard reality." You control the ads you put out. Dewhurst should have adds all up the Rio Grande Valley, in Spanish, talking about who Wendy Davis wants to kill bambinos. That's politics. Oh and btw, the vast majority of Hispanics in Texas are pro-life. 2:1.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:08 PM (hFL/3)

462 Why does she have to be a single mother? Rip the welfare edifice down, and if she and the father can't support the child - take the child for adoption. Abortion and welfare are safety nets for irresponsible lifestyle choices, change both. Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 11:06 PM (CMlD4) _______ Oh rip the welfare edifice down? OK should we do that tomorrow or Monday? It's so easy after, shouldn't take more than a couple of hours.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:08 PM (dfLY4)

463 Wow, I should have come back to reading the AoS ONT sooner. It's meltdown city in here. Fun fun fun! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 20, 2013 07:08 PM (T/XcG)

464 I like grits.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:09 PM (zDsvJ)

465 Brevard, NC - Well known for it's albino squirrels..., and not much else. http://whitesquirrels.com/about-white-squirrels/

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 07:09 PM (aDwsi)

466 Moo Moo all choisey about abortion....not so much about AR-15s

Posted by: ET at November 20, 2013 07:09 PM (uGlk8)

467 461 Mr Moo, your pro-choice argument about the fear of rampant criminals is basically Margaret Sanger's position -- its nice to see the mask drop off occasionally. Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 11:08 PM (CMlD4) _______ What mask? Forcing 15 year olds to have kids will lead to more crime. Anyone with an IQ of 50 can figure that one out. It's not some great secret.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:10 PM (dfLY4)

468 Hey, wingnuts, I have an extreme minority view that almost all of you find morally abhorrent, let's talk about how all you wingnuts should abandon your most deeply held moral principles and start either agreeing with and shutting the fuck up so we can win some fucking elections!! Besides, your deeply held moral convictions are costing me money!! So let's cut this morality shit and start gettin' paid, amirite?? Amirite? Also, try to keep the discussion respectful, you in-bred, nazi, Christianist retards. Thanks. WarOnWomenz, bitchez!!

Posted by: Trolltard 3000 at November 20, 2013 07:10 PM (ZPrif)

469 Calm the FUCK down you two or I swear to God I will pull this ONT over and administer some Official Justice on both of ya!!! Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 11:05 PM (XkotV) I've been naughty, will you spank me, too? Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 11:07 PM (lVPtV) I like to watch.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 07:10 PM (AO9UG)

470 #433 It's okay, Mikey, I chuckled at your joke.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 07:10 PM (fIgFc)

471 467
Brevard, NC - Well known for it's albino squirrels..., and not much else.

http://whitesquirrels.com/about-white-squirrels/

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 11:09 PM (aDwsi)

My mom had albino squirrels in her home town in N. FL.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:10 PM (lVPtV)

472 Plus I'd like to know I live in a society where a woman gets to decide how many kids she will have, not a church. Crazy stuff, I know.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:55 PM (dfLY4)

And another straw man gets dragged out of the barn by cow-cow.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2013 07:10 PM (L3CCJ)

473 I've been naughty, will you spank me, too?

http://youtu.be/DtcSYPjJbgg

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2013 07:11 PM (JawqV)

474 Abortion and welfare are safety nets for irresponsible lifestyle choices, change both.

^^^THIS

We euphemistically call organizations "Child Protective Services" and such, yet that is in reality just NewSpeak, backed up by courts who often favor keeping kids with clearly deficient/unsuitable parents.

I reject the whole fucking edifice.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 07:11 PM (Xlbr8)

475 My mom had albino squirrels in her home town in N. FL. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 11:10 PM (lVPtV) The. Fuck???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 07:11 PM (GEICT)

476 443 Bacteria are at the top of the food chain.
Posted by: Purp at November 20, 2013 11:01 PM (Xlbr

Yep. They are the true owners of this planet.

Of course we can go somewhere else and then hammer the Earth with asteroids and they can't, but we would have to take them with us wherever we went or we would perish.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 11:05 PM (AO9UG)

Plus, if all the cells in your body could vote, they'd outvote you.....in your own body.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 07:11 PM (T1005)

477 I am to the point the when I see WWII photos or footage I become sad. It is the end of a great era. My Dad is a WWII Navy veteran and his cousin was killed on the USS Bunker Hill. Too bad his memory is so bad cause I still like to ask him about his days on the LST 700 and how they survived their Kamikaze attack during the invasion of the Philippines.

Posted by: Unclezeb at November 20, 2013 07:11 PM (MnT/3)

478 468 Moo Moo all choisey about abortion....not so much about AR-15s Posted by: ET at November 20, 2013 11:09 PM (uGlk

______________ The next time an abortion is used in a mass shooting, I'll be the first to turn to the anti-abrtion side.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:11 PM (dfLY4)

479 Mr. Moo Moo: you're a "Freakanomics" fan, I take it?

(And for those who don't know, one of the books' weirder arguments is that many social scientists believe it's likely that the #1 reason for overall drops in American crime is... abortion on demand)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 20, 2013 07:12 PM (T/XcG)

480 "If they're too stupid to realize a super majority for Dems would mean unfettered abortion across the land....let them. Or...they can stay within a more centrist GOP on abortion. Their choice." You're saying that we should all be pro-choice. Lallalala, abortions for all. In that case, it doesn't matter if they have a D or an R by their name, they're supporting the continues slaughter of 4000 children a day. Please, enlighten me, what will these fabled moderates do to limit abortion in any way? Will they propose new legislation limiting abortion? Ick! No way, that would be extreme! Will they enforce regulations to laws already on the books? Eh, that might get the womenfolk all aflutter. No, better to just sit back and let the cancer grow unabated. After all, they're pro-choice.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:12 PM (hFL/3)

481 >>I'm reminded of the article that made the rounds a few years ago, written by a woman who was shocked to find that she was not only pregnant but pregnant with triplets....

Have you seen that Amy Richards has since written a book on motherhood? "Opting In: Having a Child Without Losing Yourself"
Un-fargin-believable,

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 07:12 PM (JRmiD)

482 The. Fuck???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 11:11 PM (GEICT)

Lol. Yeah, but they weren't true "albinos" because they had dark eyes. Apparently, they escaped from a circus way back. The ones I saw in her yard were snow white, with dark, cold eyes. Like a doll's. But cute.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:13 PM (lVPtV)

483 I didnÂ’t know that Newt had a returned in a television show Crossfire, on CNN, until I clicked a link form another site that Tim Scott refused to endorse Lindsey Graham. ItÂ’s too bad that Rand Paul endorsed Mitch!

Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 07:13 PM (z4WKX)

484 Alberta - A little wholesome humor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 07:13 PM (aDwsi)

485 We have gray squirrels here that often produce an almost black squirrel. Never seen an albino squirrel, have seen albino white-tail deer however

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:14 PM (HVff2)

486 I've been naughty, will you spank me, too? Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 11:07 PM (lVPtV) What the HELL did i miss!

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 07:14 PM (LpbKr)

487 Moo Moo all choisey about abortion....not so much about AR-15s Posted by: ET ----------------------------- One suits him, the other doesn't. Sounds like the current occupant of 1600 PA Ave.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 07:14 PM (4Mv1T)

488 Jane D'oh: it's good to see you around again. Please give the D'oh Boy a great big (masculine) hug: and for me, please thank him for his service. I really do appreciate his sacrifice and yours, Jane I'd go on, but there's something in my eye...

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 07:14 PM (JMmQ9)

489 Philly has lots of black squirrels wait that sounded bad! I miss those little black fuckers tho cute!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:15 PM (EZNxq)

490 No chestnuts, no peace!!

Posted by: National Association for the Advancement of Colored Squirrels at November 20, 2013 07:15 PM (T/XcG)

491 It is so easy to get Moo Moo to rip off his mask. Moar bacteria fun: the number of bacteria on a person's skin is so great that if you could photograph a person but only capture the bacteria, it would still resemble a true photograph. I read that shit on the intertubes, bitches.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 07:15 PM (AO9UG)

492 Bottom Line: 80% of the public rejects the absolute ban on abortion. This has been consistent in just about any poll for the past decade. If you think an 80-20 split against you is a winning position, there's really no reasoned debate possible. Unless the GOP shuts the fuck up about abortion, it will lose election after election. Ball is in your court...

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:15 PM (dfLY4)

493 There is a town in IL that has white racist squirrels also. Been there. http://tinyurl.com/hym34

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 07:16 PM (0FSuD)

494 Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 11:14 PM (JMmQ9)

You're sweet. Thank you. We're (and he's) all good.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:16 PM (lVPtV)

495 Forcing 15 year olds to have kids will lead to more crime. Anyone with an IQ of 50 can figure that one out. It's not some great secret. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

Any evidence of that must be a tightly held secret. I can however spatially link the highest crime areas with the localities with highest abortion rates, ditto for economic cohorts, and 'gasp' racial lines.

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 07:16 PM (CMlD4)

496 I read that shit on the intertubes, bitches.

Well then, it must be true.

Posted by: Benjamin Franklin, loyal AOS reader since 1797 at November 20, 2013 07:16 PM (T/XcG)

497

>>> The next time an abortion is used in a mass shooting, I'll be the first to turn to the anti-abrtion side.

WTF? How many abortions this year, compared to how many people shot? Does it only count if you get 12 or more at a time?

Posted by: Bomber at November 20, 2013 07:17 PM (4Mwv/)

498

I honestly don't know how to respond to this. It's so bizarre, I can't tell if you're serious or just fucking with me. I really hope it's the latter.

Bizarre to you, perhaps. I would venture to suggest that the idea that a culture that holds human life and suffering cheap in one area might come to be indifferent to human life in other areas would not be considered "bizarre" by normal people, however.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 20, 2013 07:17 PM (XtD9y)

499 471 Calm the FUCK down you two or I swear to God I will pull this ONT over and administer some Official Justice on both of ya!!! Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 11:05 PM (XkotV) I've been naughty, will you spank me, too? Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 11:07 PM (lVPtV) I like to watch. Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 11:10 PM (AO9UG) I like to tape & sell it to tmz

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:17 PM (HVff2)

500 What mask eman? I am not hiding anything and never have. I have always said I think religion and abortion are the reason the GOP loses. Stop being the party of abotion and religion and we will win. Do you even know what the word mask means?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:17 PM (dfLY4)

501 Remember, if you ever find yourself holding a strong personal moral and/or religious belief that is a minority opinion -- the best thing to do is to totally fucking abandon that position. Especially when that is costing me dolla, dolla bills, yo! Ain't never gonna be in no position of power in society with some weird-ass minority opinion. Fuck that noize! All those dumbass Christians in the middle east payin' the Christian jizz tax and gettin' all burnt up. Dude, convert to Islam and save on yo taxes! How stupid is yo shit?!

Posted by: Trolltard 3000 at November 20, 2013 07:18 PM (ZPrif)

502 who is (T/XcG) - I'm laughing so hard I'm crying! thanks btw I had a totally shit day today and am sick

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:18 PM (EZNxq)

503 Moo Moo....if your worried about mass killings I don't think the AR is what you should worry about.

Posted by: ET at November 20, 2013 07:18 PM (uGlk8)

504 in 1985 I was in Buenos Aires, and some local contacts took me to a German restaurant on Calle Lavalle
Buenas noches, mein fuehrer.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 07:18 PM (fIgFc)

505 "80% of the public rejects the absolute ban on abortion. This has been consistent in just about any poll for the past decade. " And yet, shockingly, the GOP has won many an election during that time frame. Now, let's just take the base out of all those elections. Because that is what you are proposing. Fuck the base. Who needs em?

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:18 PM (hFL/3)

506 I would run across a fox squirrel every now and then while hunting in low-country SC.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 07:18 PM (aDwsi)

507 Plus, if all the cells in your body could vote, they'd outvote you.....in your own body.

Posted by: cthulhu

Hey, can that bacteria show me some ID? With a picture on it?

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 20, 2013 07:18 PM (v6hyJ)

508 Moo: Try mentally replacing the word "fetus" with the word "black person" and see if that helps you understand why comparing humans to bacteria should offend any person who is not a fucking lunatic.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (pSWCJ)

509 Bottom Line:

80% of the public rejects the absolute ban on ~~abortion~~ slavery. This has been consistent in just about any poll for the past decade.

If you think an 80-20 split against you is a winning position, there's really no reasoned debate possible.

Unless the GOP shuts the fuck up about ~~abortion~~ slavery, it will lose election after election.

Ball is in your court... Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

Let me fix that for you, circa 1850.

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (CMlD4)

510 Night all. Wish me luck, trying to trap a fucking raccoon that is tearing up my sod. I am going to abort him if I catch him.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (0FSuD)

511 What mask eman? I am not hiding anything and never have. I have always said I think religion and abortion are the reason the GOP loses. Stop being the party of abotion and religion and we will win. Do you even know what the word mask means? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 11:17 PM (dfLY4) I do, and I know how to use a comma.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (AO9UG)

512 Never seen an albino squirrel, have seen albino white-tail deer however

I just read about the Seneca white tail deer yesterday. They aren't true albinos. They carry a recessive gene for all white coats and are isolated on an army depot. Pretty neat.

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (k55Fc)

513 My dad was one of the sailors who loaded the aircraft onto the ship for Doolittles Raid. he is 91, drinking beer and pissing viniger today, well he drinks 3 beers and calls it good

Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (SHH+J)

514 I saw the Albino Squirrels open for Sublime at the Hollywood Bowl in '91

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (jucos)

515

Never seen an albino squirrel

Give me your cell # and I'll send you a picture of one.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (2TQQt)

516 I'd worry more about the vast bacterial conspiracy that looks to wipe out humans.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (Xlbr8)

517 I happen to have Bill OÂ’Baxter on, as Rush calls him, he thinks Palin doesnÂ’t want to do his show because heÂ’s tough on them. Fool doesnÂ’t realize that most of us canÂ’t stomach him. One day soon, The Kelly File is going to beat the crap out of him in ratings, if she hasnÂ’t done it already.

Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (z4WKX)

518 Fuck the base. Who needs em?

Hey, stop stealing my thunder!

Posted by: Chris Christie 2016 at November 20, 2013 07:19 PM (T/XcG)

519 512 Night all.

Wish me luck, trying to trap a fucking raccoon that is tearing up my sod.

I am going to abort him if I catch him.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 11:19 PM (0FSuD)

Don't let the fucker bite you!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:20 PM (lVPtV)

520 I have had white deer (I thought albino?) the past two years we have a ridiculous amount of deer here I think the white deer is supposed to be good luck? at least the white one didn't sneeze on my car

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:20 PM (EZNxq)

521 My husband knows Dick Cole through a group they both hunt with ever year, although for many of the guys it's mostly drinking and telling stories, and of course Dick has the best story. They say Dick is a great guy, very unpretentious, and doing amazingly well for his age.

Posted by: stace at November 20, 2013 07:20 PM (fdnD9)

522 Also, try to keep the discussion respectful, you in-bred, nazi, Christianist retards. Thanks.

WarOnWomenz, bitchez!!
Posted by: Trolltard 3000 at November 20, 2013 11:10 PM (ZPrif)

Okay we have a winner. The competition is now closed - better luck tomorrow night everyone. Remember: You can't win if you don't play.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 20, 2013 07:21 PM (XkotV)

523 Give me your cell # and I'll send you a picture of one.

Isn't that more of a dwarf naked mole rat?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2013 07:21 PM (JawqV)

524 Moo moo Why is adoption not part of your calculus? Baby goes to a financially stable family, and grows up to be a productive member of society and a tax payer

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 07:21 PM (zOTsN)

525 Thank you!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 07:21 PM (ZPrif)

526 I am not hiding anything and never have. I have always said I think religion and abortion are the reason the GOP loses. Stop being the party of abotion and religion and we will win. Do you even know what the word mask means? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 11:17 PM (dfLY4) You're a fucking liar. Go back to the beginning of the thread where you argued biological equivalency between a homo sapiens organism and bacteria. In other words, you took the position of fucking AMANDA MARCOTTE. Then, when confronted about the utter idiocy of that position, it became a "political positioning" discussion. THIS is the mask you use to try to deflect from the fact that you see living homo sapiens organisms as perfectly disposable creatures akin to bacteria. You're doing this wrong. At least split up your backpedaling between threads.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 07:21 PM (bTnE9)

527 Is it a vast right wing bacterial conspiracy?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 07:21 PM (RZ8pf)

528 @521 He's not getting out of the havahart trap. It will be slipped into my pool to see how long Mr Raccoon can hold his breath.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2013 07:21 PM (0FSuD)

529 Hey, can that bacteria show me some ID? With a picture on it? Posted by: Severe Conservative -------------- Would you settle for an ID with some bacteria on it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 07:21 PM (aDwsi)

530 Damn TM you see all the good shows

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:21 PM (HVff2)

531 Give me your cell # and I'll send you a picture of one. Isn't that more of a dwarf naked mole rat? wait let me get my glasses . . nope, still can't make out anything?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:22 PM (EZNxq)

532 And yet, shockingly, the GOP has won many an election during that time frame. Now, let's just take the base out of all those elections. Because that is what you are proposing. Fuck the base. Who needs em? Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 11:18 PM (hFL/3) ______ For the umpteenth time...more people vote AGAINST the gop because of abortion than vote FOR the gop because of abortion So yes fuck the base, at least that part of the base. We don't need you, you're more of a problem than a solution.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:22 PM (dfLY4)

533 Question for the horde. My AR's are lazy defective asses. Not one victim yet. Should I return them or is there a quick fix?

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 07:22 PM (LpbKr)

534 Hey, stop stealing my thunder!

Posted by: Chris Christie

Thunder in Joisey: Chris Christie passing gas.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 20, 2013 07:22 PM (v6hyJ)

535 I was about to toss a few fucks Moo's way but with Maet threatening to pull the ONT over, I'm thinking better of it. I don't think I'd cross the line, but best not tempt fates. Have a good night all.

Oh and fuck off Moo you utter imbecile.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at November 20, 2013 07:22 PM (8OfdL)

536 I just read about the Seneca white tail deer yesterday. They aren't true albinos. They carry a recessive gene for all white coats and are isolated on an army depot. Pretty neat. Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 11:19 PM (k55Fc)
There are white deer at Argonne Labs near Chicago.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 20, 2013 07:22 PM (ozktE)

537 421

I'd also add that they're reflexively against any sort of against any sort of audit or accountability or basic sanitary standards for the clinics. You know, where they're sticking rotors up women's yoohoo's and grinding up body parts and sucking them out with a hose.

So, meeting basic health standards would close most of the abortion clinics? Tough; they should either have to adjust and improve or go out of business...like everyone else. I'd be more pissed that they weren't already doing it on their own, personally, but I'm an EEEEEEEEEEEVIL RETHRUGLIKKKAN KKKONSERVATIVE MALE.

I'd also add that they're encroaching even beyond Europe on the maximum term for abortions; with some groups even advocating for post-birth "abortions", since anyone under 2-3 can't contribute to their own upkeep in any meaningful way, so ergo can't be considered people yet (via Journal of Medical Ethics from about 1/2 a year ago).

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 20, 2013 07:22 PM (G99e4)

538 Fool doesnÂ’t realize that most of us canÂ’t stomach him.

Yep. Bill is all about Bill. His narcissism and ego rival Obama.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 07:22 PM (Xlbr8)

539 "Stop being the party of abotion and religion and we will win"

Surrender your values for victory, become the enemy and he is yours.

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 07:23 PM (CMlD4)

540 The real base of the GOP is fiscally centered, not church centered. So if the church crowd wants to leave, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:23 PM (dfLY4)

541 "...although for many of the guys it's mostly drinking and telling stories,.." --------------- The same stories..., year after year.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 07:23 PM (aDwsi)

542 When you're going so apeshit that you're committing typos in every post, Moo Moo, it's time to go to bed.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 07:24 PM (fIgFc)

543 I'm standing next to our driveway yesterday, waiting for our late, late mail delivery. I'm watching a buck deer grazing in the yard a few feet from me. And then a damned bat begins circling my head. Close. I literally was swatting it away from me.

Postal employee pulls up and says, "Did you see that deer in your front yard??!"

I explained to her I was dodging a bat. She freaked out and screamed and took off (after giving me my mail).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:24 PM (lVPtV)

544 So yes fuck the base, at least that part of the base. We don't need you, you're more of a problem than a solution. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 11:22 PM (dfLY4) Have fun without us.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 07:24 PM (LpbKr)

545 I saw Pathogen open for Tetracycline in Boston back in '85. Insane Eighties hair, my friends.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 07:24 PM (AO9UG)

546 OK kids, time for me to get some work done. All those millions of kids - who weren't aborted by their 14 year old mom - need that welfare check. And those taxes won't be paid on their own. I have to work my ass off. Thanks anti-abortion people!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:24 PM (dfLY4)

547 There are white deer at Argonne Labs near Chicago. Posted by: Bertram Cabot ------------------- Stray radiation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 07:24 PM (aDwsi)

548 524 ) Okay we have a winner. The competition is now closed. Better luck tomorrow night everyone. Remember: You can't win if you don't play. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 11:21 PM (XkotV) Jeepers Maet, you work for IHeart Radio too?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:24 PM (HVff2)

549

>>> ...fucking AMANDA MARCOTTE.

That just might be the three most disgusting words I've ever seen on an ONT.

Posted by: Bomber at November 20, 2013 07:25 PM (4Mwv/)

550 I like grits I like chewing tobacco, but I don't pretend it's food. No amount of pleas, fact or argument will convince me that grits aren't a practical joke that has mistakenly been taken seriously. Like Bronies and 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 07:25 PM (X9Mnx)

551 "more people vote AGAINST the gop because of abortion than vote FOR the gop because of abortion " Bull. Fucking. Shit. Per Gallup 2012 In 2012, Republicans tend to be the most pro-life, with 72 percent identifying as such. About 34 percent of Democrats are pro-life, as are 47 percent of independents. Fifty-eight percent of Democrats say they are pro-choice, as do 22 percent of Republicans and 41 percent of independents

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:25 PM (hFL/3)

552 I can see by recent posts that things have gotten nasty if Maet is pissed. IÂ’m glad I was watching Homeland, again from Sunday because I never ddi watch the entire episode. Maet, Did you manage to keep away from ER this week and if not did you go today, with the Â“talentÂ” from nurses? My brother went to ER Saturday with 105 fever and is still in the hospital. Today is his 52nd birthday. I called and he was with nurses and aides and when he called me back he sounded horrible. He has pneumonia again and/or still. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 07:25 PM (z4WKX)

553
   The right to keep and bear arms is pre-existant. God given, if you wish.

   Each citizen has that right. It cannot be abridged.

   Each citizen ALSO has the PRIVILEGE NOT to exercise that right.

   But the privilege to not exercise said right can't trump the original.

    Plus which I discovered that pizza with extra cheese and buried with bacon is stupendous.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 20, 2013 07:25 PM (SAMxH)

554 Ew! Grits! Biscuits and Gravy! Disgusting!

Give me my grass soup ant rat kebab any day!

Posted by: Chinese Student at November 20, 2013 07:26 PM (1j9qS)

555 Flatbush- That was most excellent socking. There should be a cash prize.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 07:26 PM (4Mv1T)

556 Question for the horde.

My AR's are lazy defective asses. Not one victim yet.

Should I return them or is there a quick fix?

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 11:22 PM (LpbKr)

_________________

Any proud gun owner will tell you that to be effective, you need to leave your guns outside. By doing that the gun has a greater opportunity to zero in on a target and blast the fuck out of them.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 20, 2013 07:26 PM (jucos)

557 First they came for the fetuses, but I said nothing, for I was already born...

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at November 20, 2013 07:26 PM (R+XDI)

558 Should I return them or is there a quick fix? Posted by: RWC

Your keeping them too tight, you gotta loosen up old man. Leave one on the front steps with carton of cigs and bottle of Jack - give'em some space and you'll get your victims.

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 07:26 PM (CMlD4)

559 Why is adoption not part of your calculus? Baby goes to a financially stable family, and grows up to be a productive member of society and a tax payer Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 11:21 PM (zOTsN) ___________ Because it doesn't work like that in the real world. In the real world the 14 or 15 year old is stuck with the kid and will be on welfare for life. And so will the kid. And that kid will have a kid at 15 and so on. Adoptions are very rare events.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:26 PM (dfLY4)

560 So yes fuck the base, at least that part of the base. We don't need you, you're more of a problem than a solution. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo Your plan is to alienate those that already are on your side in hopes of attracting those who aren't? All politics aside, that's like throwing 3 of a kind away in hopes of a royal flush. I'd love to play poker with you.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 07:26 PM (KVY+w)

561 Does anyone think he would still be alive if he could still do The Tonight Show? I wonder sometimes. Not that he would be anywhere near the same, but still. Posted by: qdpsteve at November 20, 2013 10:57 PM (T/XcG) Well he didn't die because he lost his job. He was done with it and that was it. Frankly he coasted for years before he quit. I can remember him being gone for weeks at a time on vacation.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 20, 2013 07:27 PM (oFCZn)

562 Adoptions are very rare events.

And why is that?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2013 07:27 PM (JawqV)

563 I'd also add that they're reflexively against any sort of against any sort of audit or accountability or basic sanitary standards for the clinics.

Actually, something as simple as enforcing the electric code for "patient treatment areas" would be enough to shut a lot of them down. Anything where a patient is undergoing procedures, anesthesia, etc has a much stricter wiring standard that ordinary commercial space where many have set up shop.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 07:27 PM (Xlbr8)

564 "Thanks anti-abortion people!!" Yes, you're right. Your open stance on eugenics is sure to win many a convert to conservatism. Vote Republican! It's your money too, comrade!

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:27 PM (hFL/3)

565 Mr. Moo Moo isn't a social Conservative.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 20, 2013 07:28 PM (V70Uh)

566 Holy shit - even his sign off was completely bereft of understanding of simple cause-effect relationships. Yeah, 14 year olds in the inner city are rocketing out babies and perpetuating generational welfare because Republicans don't support abortion-on-demand at taxpayer expense. Sure.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 07:28 PM (bTnE9)

567 And no response to the fiscal, and moral, superiority of adoption

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 07:28 PM (zOTsN)

568 Bomber - Duck and cover my friend. AoSHQ is a hot LZ tonight

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 07:28 PM (aDwsi)

569 494 Bottom Line:

80% of the public rejects the absolute ban on abortion. This has been consistent in just about any poll for the past decade.

If you think an 80-20 split against you is a winning position, there's really no reasoned debate possible.

Unless the GOP shuts the fuck up about abortion, it will lose election after election.

Ball is in your court...

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 11:15 PM (dfLY4)

The problem is that -- like any human action -- there are a variety of factors to consider with abortion. There's an old example where you're driving a schoolbus full of kids on a mountain road with a cliff alongside, and a little girl runs out into the road.....yes, it's regrettable, but your best choice is to run her down in cold blood. Doesn't mean that running down little girls with a bus is a great idea or laudable.

So a rejection of an absolute ban on abortion means little -- it's like an absolute ban on running over kids with a bus. There are circumstances -- classic ones involve cases of rape or horrendous defects -- where abortion is a rational choice. And there are extremists who -- despite the majorities who are queasy about the life-and-death choice at the core of the discussion -- feel that abortion must be celebrated as being an outright good in all cases.

Unfortunately, with the progressive left in office and their enablers in the media, the righteous argument against those extremists is painted as extremism, and the actual extremists' arguments are painted as Truth -- and even in blogs like this one, some folks can't help but mindlessly repeat slogans.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 07:28 PM (T1005)

570 All politics aside, that's like throwing 3 of a kind away in hopes of a royal flush. I'd love to play poker with you. Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 20, 2013 11:26 PM (KVY+w) _______________ No it's throwing away an offset 5/6, which is what the GOP has right now as long as the anti-abortion zealots remain front and center in the party. Don't ask me though. As Senators Aiken and Mordouck and Buck who all won commanding victories by being anti-abortion in a very public way. Oh wait...

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 07:28 PM (dfLY4)

571 No amount of pleas, fact or argument will convince me that grits aren't a practical joke that has mistakenly been taken seriously. Like Bronies and 2001: A Space Odyssey. Posted by: Hollowpoint ---------------------------- Yer doin' it wrong. Shrimp 'n Grits, anywhere in Charleston, or anywhere in the Low Country. Hell, anywhere on the coast of the MidAtlantic.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 07:29 PM (4Mv1T)

572 With all this talk about abortion, what about the left's beloved recourse for unwanted pregnancy, Plan B? Shouldn't Plan B render most abortions unnecessary?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2013 07:29 PM (DmNpO)

573 That just might be the three most disgusting words I've ever seen on an ONT. Posted by: Bomber at November 20, 2013 11:25 PM (4Mwv/) didn't a thread referencing her lead to some kind of mass banning or something? I'd vote for Sandra Fluck's Fat Upper Pussy for the grody-est but hey it is a free country

Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 07:29 PM (SHH+J)

574 Thanks anti-abortion people!! Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 11:24 PM (dfLY4) You're welcome.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 07:29 PM (LpbKr)

575 Adoptions are very rare events.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 11:26 PM (dfLY4)

Gee, wonder why that is?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:29 PM (lVPtV)

576 Oh no, Moo Moo has launched a purge!!! That's cute in a way. Does it help you feel important? That's good. Everybody should feel important.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 07:29 PM (ZPrif)

577

Mosquitos. They're the top of the food chain. They're out to get us.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 07:29 PM (9gNQd)

578 Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 11:28 PM (zOTsN)

THIS

Posted by: Country Singer, what wuz adopted at November 20, 2013 07:30 PM (DE9KP)

579 568 Mr. Moo Moo isn't a social Conservative. Posted by: Jimbo at November 20, 2013 11:28 PM (V70Uh) Thanks Ben Roethlisberger.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 07:30 PM (GEICT)

580 Hey, I'm back there in the early one hundreds of comments:, & I won't be reading all five million of them, but hey! hey! nip sip[lb] is it? listen don't let anybody touch that film but professional film archivist restoration people!! Old and brittle and easily damaged likely. Sure hope the cans were well sealed and dry!

Posted by: mindful webworker - preserve your memories at November 20, 2013 07:30 PM (pJB7q)

581 My dad was one of the sailors who loaded the aircraft onto the ship for Doolittles Raid. he is 91, drinking beer and pissing viniger today, well he drinks 3 beers and calls it good Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 11:19 PM (SHH+J) Thanks to your father and take the time to enjoy him, time flies and you never know what or who you may lose in a moment. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 07:30 PM (z4WKX)

582 Posted by: non-purist at November 20, 2013 11:07 PM (afQnV)

The Japanese Army and Navy loathed each other. Any cooperation seems to have been by accident. The Navy wanted some breathing room after the early conquests, they had been running all over everywhere in the pacific and Indian Oceans and removing the USN as a viable rival in the Pacific was always part of their plans. The Army also wanted time to digest the conquests, but they were more focused on Asia and moving onward to the west.

However, as you noted, the insult to Japan by the bombing raid needed avenging, and if the Midway operation could destroy the effective offensive strength of the USN for a year, then Japan would have time to take a few global Tums and get the new areas set into the Empire such that digging them out would take far longer than the USA would want to take.

That their intentions did not work out (Hi Barack! This is Hidecki, I'll save you a seat!) is just what happens when intentions start rolling the dice against reality.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 07:30 PM (gmoEG)

583 I can't ONT tonight. I don't want to have a squirrel abortion.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 20, 2013 07:30 PM (N/cFh)

584 A story on abortion. When I was a young man I got a girl pregnant. We discussed abortion as an option but got married instead. After my first daughter was born and I held her for the first time I have forever been horrified that that one choice would have wiped out a life that I would willingly die for today.

Posted by: The Hickster at November 20, 2013 07:30 PM (DUGve)

585 535 Question for the horde. My AR's are lazy defective asses. Not one victim yet. Should I return them or is there a quick fix? Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 11:22 PM (LpbKr) Try loaning them to a nice Korean family in South Central for a race riot or two...

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at November 20, 2013 07:30 PM (R+XDI)

586 "Shouldn't Plan B render most abortions unnecessary?" Studies have shown it to be useless at the population level.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:30 PM (hFL/3)

587

I've been to breakfasts in hotels in the hinterlands of China.

Unusual is the polite word. Good thing I packed granola bars.

A country with some very strange food.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 20, 2013 07:31 PM (v6hyJ)

588 LOL, Jimbo.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 07:31 PM (fIgFc)

589 Don't ask me though. As Senators Aiken and Mordouck and Buck who all won commanding victories by being anti-abortion in a very public way. Oh wait... Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo Should I wait for you to explain how your idea of being antagonistic to the base is going to attract others? Heal thyself, physician.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 07:31 PM (KVY+w)

590 Adoptions are very rare events.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 11:26 PM (dfLY4)

Yep. Because the welfare system is set up ti make it positively profitable for single mothers to keep squeezing out bastards. Correct that, and adoption will become commonplace. That, and get rid of the fool notion that kids belonging to a certain privileged minority have to be raised in the minority's cultural mode.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2013 07:31 PM (L3CCJ)

591 Sorry moo moo I wrote that before I read your response You do acknowledge that what you subsidize you get more of?

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 07:31 PM (zOTsN)

592 Well I for one believe in squirrel abortions.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 20, 2013 07:31 PM (RZ8pf)

593 Your keeping them too tight, you gotta loosen up old man. Leave one on the front steps with carton of cigs and bottle of Jack - give'em some space and you'll get your victims. Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 11:26 PM (CMlD4) Thanks. I was thinking of leaving some snacksmon the counter as well. Well fed before they go out.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 07:32 PM (LpbKr)

594 Virtually all abortions are a killing for convenience. I'm not a churchgoer or bible thumper and I get that. That's just rationality. If it was more convenient to let the child live, (or the child could be sold), there would be no abortions. Soon the abortion types will try to regress to the rule in ancient Rome. It was legal to kill a child until it reached the "age of reason", which at the time was considered to be around 4 years of age. Hey, try before you buy.

Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 20, 2013 07:32 PM (1Y+hH)

595 Speaking of the Knockout game, I just saw this on one of the AoS FB groups: Teen Playing The Knockout Game Gets Shot Twice By Victim http://tinyurl.com/lhy9mm8

Posted by: Thrawn at November 20, 2013 07:32 PM (ZyqBH)

596 Of course, I like polenta, too. Italian grits.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:32 PM (zDsvJ)

597 Studies have shown it to be useless at the population level. *** I apologize, but you'll have to explain what his means.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2013 07:32 PM (DmNpO)

598 I am not about to get into a grits discussion. If you like your grits, then you can keep your grits. Although..., anyone who doesn't like grits is living a small life. That is all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 07:32 PM (aDwsi)

599 554 I can see by recent posts that things have gotten nasty if Maet is pissed.

No I'm not pissed. I'm just very, very, very disappointed in all of you.

And so is your mother. We raised you to be better than this. If you can't play nice in the back seat, I swear I will turn this ONT right around and drop you off right at summer school.

Oh and Monday was the first day in a week when I didn't need any vicodin for the pain. You don't realize what a blessing a pain-free day is until you go without one for a while.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 20, 2013 07:32 PM (XkotV)

600 As a starting point for negotiations, can we all agree that Amanda Marcotte can have as many abortions she wants? And if she so chooses she can abort herself?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 07:33 PM (gmoEG)

601 "Soon the abortion types will try to regress to the rule in ancient Rome. It was legal to kill a child until it reached the "age of reason", which at the time was considered to be around 4 years of age. " *waves*

Posted by: Peter Singer, AKA Mr. Moo Moo's patron saint at November 20, 2013 07:33 PM (hFL/3)

602

>>> Duck and cover my friend. AoSHQ is a hot LZ tonight

More action than I've seen over here in the last nine months. It's exciting.

Posted by: Bomber at November 20, 2013 07:33 PM (4Mwv/)

603 Maet I'm happy to hear that. my mother in law is going in for spinal surgery tomorrow so - not sleeping of course her son is sleeping?!!?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:33 PM (EZNxq)

604 587 A story on abortion. When I was a young man I got a girl pregnant. We discussed abortion as an option but got married instead. After my first daughter was born and I held her for the first time I have forever been horrified that that one choice would have wiped out a life that I would willingly die for today.

Posted by: The Hickster at November 20, 2013 11:30 PM (DUGve)

What a great story.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:33 PM (lVPtV)

605 Oh and Monday was the first day in a week when I didn't need any vicodin for the pain. You don't realize what a blessing a pain-free day is until you go without one for a while. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 11:32 PM (XkotV) But you're most disappointed in me, right? Seriously though, glad you're feeling better. I must have missed itÂ….injury? Surgery?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 07:34 PM (GEICT)

606 Try loaning them to a nice Korean family in South Central for a race riot or two... Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at November 20, 2013 11:30 PM (R+XDI) Korean's are smart. i gaurantee they have better shit than I do.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 07:34 PM (LpbKr)

607 Glad you're on the mend, Maet.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:34 PM (zDsvJ)

608 Yer doin' it wrong. Shrimp 'n Grits, anywhere in Charleston, or anywhere in the Low Country. Hell, anywhere on the coast of the MidAtlantic. Know what's even better? Shrimp sans tasteless white mush masquerading as food.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 07:34 PM (X9Mnx)

609 And those taxes won't be paid on their own. I have to work my ass off. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 11:24 PM (dfLY4)
Pay your fair share!

Posted by: The Huddled Masses at November 20, 2013 07:34 PM (ozktE)

610 Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 11:14 PM (JMmQ9) You're sweet. Thank you. We're (and he's) all good. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 11:16 PM I'm having a moment, here, Jane. I'm so glad that the "D'oh Boy" is safe after his tour. I'm having a good cry; that a man (D'oh Boy) would put his ass on the line so that I could sit around and drink Val-U-Rite vodka and surf the inter-web net-tubes... jesus, jane, give him the biggest hug from me

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 07:34 PM (JMmQ9)

611 More action than I've seen over here in the last nine months. It's exciting. Posted by: Bomber at November 20, 2013 11:33 PM (4Mwv/) Yeah, I have a hard time relating to people who think the video of my daughter's heartbeat at 8 weeks is just some boring footage of bacteria.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 07:34 PM (bTnE9)

612 "I apologize, but you'll have to explain what his means." Basically that while it lowers an individual's chances of becoming pregnant, it doest effect the pregnancy rates of the country as a whole.

Posted by: Peter Singer, AKA Mr. Moo Moo's patron saint at November 20, 2013 07:35 PM (hFL/3)

613 Glad you are feeling better Maet. I use Vicodin daily, looking forward to surgery and off narcs in about 6 weeks, woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:35 PM (HVff2)

614 Ahhh, go away gross baby killing sock.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:36 PM (hFL/3)

615 Maet, so glad you have gotten relief. I'm waiting to see if spinal surgery is in the near future for me.

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 07:36 PM (k55Fc)

616 jesus, jane, give him the biggest hug from me

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 11:34 PM (JMmQ9)

I will. But believe me, he respects those old guys who served before him. More than you know.

God bless you. And thanks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:37 PM (lVPtV)

617 Vicodin actually made me SEE Julio down by the schoolyard. He kept me company while my wife went to the pharmacy to get my full prescription. I assured her Julio would take good care of me. So what was on the Rx speakers while she waited? Yup.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 07:37 PM (bTnE9)

618 Actually, something as simple as enforcing the electric code for "patient treatment areas" would be enough to shut a lot of them down. Anything where a patient is undergoing procedures, anesthesia, etc has a much stricter wiring standard that ordinary commercial space where many have set up shop.
Posted by: Purp

===

heh, yeah, I know. My sister's fiance's actually mentioned this once. He's an electrical estimator and contract negotiator (and sometimes installation guy) in Columbus. I was just speaking broadly, just about the direct medical side, and in small words, so the concern trolls could wrap their brains around basic concepts.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 20, 2013 07:37 PM (G99e4)

619 Posted by: Thrawn at November 20, 2013 11:32 PM (ZyqBH)

That one has been by here before, I believe. And I live in Lansing and laughed when I first read about months ago.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 07:38 PM (gmoEG)

620 Um, Maet, since you don't need the Vicodin anymore..

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 07:38 PM (AO9UG)

621

I'm not pissed. I'm just very, very, very disappointed in all of you.

And so is your mother.

Clearly, we can't have nice things.

Posted by: garett at November 20, 2013 07:38 PM (2TQQt)

622 Moo, Have you thought of persuading others to your position? I mean, rather than attempting to aggravate what you perceive to be your opponent? It would seem that attracting supporters might be much more demonstrative of a politically effective tact than, you know, intentionally insulting allies.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 07:38 PM (KVY+w)

623 *ponders entering grits punch-up with hollowpoint* *Christian compassion for the grits-deprived overcomes combative instinct*

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 07:39 PM (aDwsi)

624 BTW... Freakanomics and abortion/crime drop link was wrong:
www.isteve.com/Freakonomics_Fiasco.htm
http://tinyurl.com/mugdqts

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 07:39 PM (fIgFc)

625 Vicodin didn't do shit for kidney stones, just clumsy and in pain.

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 07:39 PM (CMlD4)

626 621 Actually, something as simple as enforcing the electric code for "patient treatment areas" would be enough to shut a lot of them down. Anything where a patient is undergoing procedures, anesthesia, etc has a much stricter wiring standard that ordinary commercial space where many have set up shop. Posted by: Purp === heh, yeah, I know. My sister's fiance's actually mentioned this once. He's an electrical estimator and contract negotiator (and sometimes installation guy) in Columbus. I was just speaking broadly, just about the direct medical side, and in small words, so the concern trolls could wrap their brains around basic concepts. Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 20, 2013 11:37 PM (G99e4) As AtC has often said, how bout we just ask abortion clinics to observe the same rules for cleanliness as nail salons.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 07:39 PM (GEICT)

627 Just saw a creepy ad for Channel No 5 featuring grainy/jumpy footage of Marilyn Monroe and a voice over of her (sounding stoned) being interviewed. So sick of the "Camelot" generation.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:40 PM (zDsvJ)

628 So this week, I've been watching TV shows about the Challenger disaster, Lee Harvey Oswald, JFK, and I watched some of Judgment at Nuremberg, interspersed between Mrs Meanie's newfound obsession with Dr Who. On succeeding nights, I've been awakened by a beagle having a nightmare and my 8-year old wide awake at 3am deciding to redecorate her room.

I gotta say, Montgomery Clift acted the shit out of his role in Judgment at Nuremberg...apparently he was so far gone that he couldn't retain his lines, but he still had me in tears. And I only cry at the end of It's a Wonderful Life.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 20, 2013 07:40 PM (hcHS/)

629 602 554 I can see by recent posts that things have gotten nasty if Maet is pissed.

No I'm not pissed. I'm just very, very, very disappointed in all of you.

And so is your mother. We raised you to be better than this. If you can't play nice in the back seat, I swear I will turn this ONT right around and drop you off at summer school.

Oh and Monday was the first day in a week when I didn't need any vicodin for the pain. You don't realize what a blessing a pain-free day is until you go without one for a while.

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 11:32 PM (XkotV)

Congrats, Maet!!!! People have a tough time talking about the difference between pain and unrelenting pain....but mostly they can get through the temporary. Pain that keeps going grinds you down.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 07:40 PM (T1005)

630 *waves* /tips hat/

Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 20, 2013 07:40 PM (1Y+hH)

631 Seriously though, glad you're feeling better. I must have missed itÂ….injury? Surgery?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 11:34 PM (GEICT)

Gum Graft II: The Reckoning. :-(

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 20, 2013 07:41 PM (XkotV)

632 Oh and Monday was the first day in a week when I didn't need any vicodin for the pain. You don't realize what a blessing a pain-free day is until you go without one for a while.

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 11:32 PM (XkotV)

Dude - did not know about that. And yes, I have a back that will - without any prior provocation or warning - let me know that it is Not Happy. So going from pain to no pain is always a reason to celebrate and send best wishes for a continuance of the non-pain.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 07:41 PM (gmoEG)

633 Posted by: garett at November 20, 2013 11:38 PM (2TQQt) That was funny, seems to me I heard that a time or 2 growing up.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:41 PM (HVff2)

634 my wife is a high risk pregnancy girl. well we went in for the ultrasound and saw the babies heart beak flickering on the screen. then we went back a few weeks later and they started the ultrasound and the first thing I knoticed was there was no flicker/heart beat.......that was the quietest room on the planet for 3 miutes or so. My wife rallied throught it and all but it still sucked ass. The next worst part was she had to cramp out the baby who was no longer alive a week or so later. So I posted that. At this point it is theraputic, because can't chane it now

Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 07:41 PM (SHH+J)

635 Finally, the melatonin is kicking in (fingers not working on keyboard).

'Night, all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:41 PM (lVPtV)

636 @627, yeah the recent spate of smash muggings and increase in the violent crime rate pretty much invalidated that whole argument.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 20, 2013 07:42 PM (hcHS/)

637 Ok, does anybody watch The League?

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 07:42 PM (LpbKr)

638 Didn't you just have gum grafting I notion long ago?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:42 PM (HVff2)

639 Gum Graft II: The Reckoning. :-( Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 11:41 PM (XkotV) Right. Now I remember. My lower gums have receded somewhat. I had a dentist suggest that some day a graft might be necessary. I asked how the procedure worked. Shit's gonna have to be fucked up before I sign the dotted line on that one.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 07:42 PM (GEICT)

640 I have a special gift for stating the obvious. And making stupid jokes. I inherited them from my father, may the Lord be very merciful to him.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 20, 2013 07:42 PM (V70Uh)

641 Is that the real garrett or someone socking him?

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:43 PM (zDsvJ)

642

588 Classic case of "AR loneliness".

Solution: buy them some more companions stat

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 07:43 PM (b7yum)

643

Guess y'all can fight the abortion battle without me.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 20, 2013 07:43 PM (SAMxH)

644 Know what's even better? Shrimp sans tasteless white mush masquerading as food. Posted by: Hollowpoint ---------------------------- My nephew, like a third son to me, when he was 8, was told by me that we were going to Cookout for burgers. He said, "Thanks, but No." I asked if he had eaten there before. He said "No." I said, "So you refuse to eat there because of the name of the restaurant?" He said, "That's right." Hollowpoint, eat some shrimp and grits made proper. You'll be glad you did.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 07:43 PM (4Mv1T)

645 Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 11:41 PM (SHH+J) So sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:43 PM (zDsvJ)

646 Sorry about dragging the horde through the gutter there, everyone. As you can tell, I'm passionate. The aforementioned rupture at 22 weeks did a doozey on my outlook on prenatal life. The good news is that my son lived. They were able to keep my pregnant for 7 weeks. Part of what makes me so passionate is that I am in a group that offers support to women who've also experienced a preterm rupture of membranes. Without exception, doctors offer termination as the solution and women have to fight and claw to try to keep their babies. The most tragic are those who listened to their doctors and terminated, only to find our group a few weeks or months later and realize that there could have been hope for their child. It's truly heartbreaking, and it happens in large part because abortion is legal after 20 weeks. Anyway, again, Sorry Maet. I'm calm now, I promise.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:44 PM (hFL/3)

647 Dot dash dot I am so sorry for your loss

Posted by: Thunderb at November 20, 2013 07:44 PM (zOTsN)

648 I'm sorry dot dash dot I had a twin pregnancy with my last child - was just recently thinking should I tell him about his lost twin? I feel like he somehow knows. I lost a twin pregnancy before that too - at 9 weeks the first; then at 13 weeks the second. one of many losses

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:44 PM (EZNxq)

649 No, it was me...just lost an 'r' de-socking.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2013 07:44 PM (2TQQt)

650 >>Because it doesn't work like that in the real world. In the real world the 14 or 15 year old is stuck with the kid and will be on welfare for life. And so will the kid. And that kid will have a kid at 15 and so on.

Adoptions are very rare events.

Really? Have friends who adopted two American babies. The second one was born to a 15 year old in their town. It's an open adoption, so not only does the mom visit, but the baby's grandparents and aunt do, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2013 07:44 PM (JRmiD)

651 540 Fool doesnÂ’t realize that most of us canÂ’t stomach him.

Yep. Bill is all about Bill. His narcissism and ego rival Obama.

Posted by: Purp at November 20, 2013 11:22 PM (Xlbr

I'm amazed he still has a show, haven't watched him in years. Actually enjoyed his show until that loofa thing happened and he changed after that and just got progressively more annoying.

Posted by: booger at November 20, 2013 07:44 PM (xRDdL)

652 dot dash dot - Close friend, same thing , two weeks ago. Eight days from delivery. Heart rending.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 20, 2013 07:45 PM (aDwsi)

653 BTW - we can all agree that Amanda Marcotte can have as many abortions as she wants?

Because I think it would be in the best interests of the child.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 07:45 PM (gmoEG)

654 Hollowpoint, eat some shrimp and grits made proper. You'll be glad you did. Posted by: Tobacco Road

This.

Or grits and sausage, or grits and bacon made proper.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 20, 2013 07:45 PM (G99e4)

655 Heh, goldfish are attracted by the smell of death.

http://nautil.us/blog/animals-wildly-varying-reactions-to-the-smell-of-death

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 07:45 PM (Xlbr8)

656 "There are my principles.
If you don't like them, I have others."

Posted by: navybrat at November 20, 2013 07:45 PM (h77Mi)

657 >That one has been by here before, I believe. And I live in Lansing and laughed when I first read about months ago. It wouldn't be AoS without material being re-posted,

. Still, that kid got off lucky, only getting a year in jail and surviving two .40 rounds.

Posted by: Thrawn at November 20, 2013 07:45 PM (ZyqBH)

658 *waves to garett, hands him an 'r'*

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:45 PM (zDsvJ)

659 I looked at the paper version of TV Guide & I missed the first hour of Judgement of Nuremberg or I would have watched it. I like to watch entire movie or television show from beginning to end. If I miss a few minute of the beginning, I lose interest. Good Night & make nice Horde, Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 07:46 PM (z4WKX)

660 "Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 11:41 PM (SHH+J)" I am truly sorry for your loss. There are really no other words than that miscarriage just sucks ass. I've been there a few times myself. Give your wife a big hug.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:46 PM (hFL/3)

661 Because I think it would be in the best interests of the child. well, really, the world

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2013 07:46 PM (EZNxq)

662 So I posted that. So I posted that. At this point it is theraputic, because can't chane it now Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 11:41 PM (SHH+J) At this point it is theraputic, because can't chane it now Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 11:41 PM (SHH+J) That happened to us the first time too. My wife had the baby taken out as she was already bleeding heavily and knew it was a forgone conclusion. My condolences.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 07:46 PM (bTnE9)

663 Adoptions are very rare events. Now that I know that you'd have been down with me not being born because the odds I'd have made it to the family that raised me were so small, I don't feel so bad about proclaiming that you are scum.

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Flying Toaster Circus at November 20, 2013 07:46 PM (m9V0o)

664 The next worst part was she had to cramp out the baby who was no longer alive a week or so later.

So I posted that.
At this point it is theraputic, because can't chane it now

Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 11:41 PM (SHH+J)

I just saw your post as I was leaving. We went through the same thing in the second trimester. Went for a checkup, and the baby's heart wasn't beating. It was devastating. Saw the baby on the sonogram, it's little fingers and toes. I am so sorry for what you're going through. We are blessed with our son who was nearly three when we lost the second baby. Hang in there. And IGNORE people like Mr. Moo Moo. Please.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:46 PM (lVPtV)

665 OK, speaking of grits and related food. I don't get chicken fried steak or that white gravy stuff. I've had the white gravy - did not like - but I can't bring myself to eat a steak that has been treated that way. What's the appeal?

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:47 PM (zDsvJ)

666 Dot dash dot

I'm sorry--we've been thru that. Sorry to say I wasn't there when Mrs Meanie heard the Silence. Never really forgotten that...

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 20, 2013 07:47 PM (hcHS/)

667 This guy won't be as lucky: Palo Alto man, 85, removed from plane, detained in North Korea http://tinyurl.com/mr2blls Seriously, anybody having a crazy idea to visit North Korea needs to lose it immediately. Unless you're a "progressive".

Posted by: Thrawn at November 20, 2013 07:47 PM (ZyqBH)

668 I am very pro fun, I just think there's no need for anyone to own an AR-15 (and yes I know all the arguments about why you're entitled to own 100 AR-15s, no need to tell me) Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:50 PM (dfLY4) No, but I had 10 M-2 Carbines once, brought back to M-1 for re-import. Sold 6, kept 3 and gifted 1 to the old man, to be returned to me in his will. You don't want to hear my arguments? Because they're fucking fun, that's why - as long as you can reload. Only 1 CAR-15 though, sorry....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at November 20, 2013 07:48 PM (kEzJ7)

669 "I had a twin pregnancy with my last child - was just recently thinking should I tell him about his lost twin? I feel like he somehow knows. " I'm very sorry for your loss as well. I had a similar situation, and I did tell my son about his twin because we were talking about "when I was pregnant, but now I'm not (yeah. Ouch)". My son's on the autism spectrum so he handled it by being a bit obsessive and deciding that his twin's name was Tom and that he was waiting for him in heaven. I would think that a more NT child would probably take the information a bit more circumspectly, but you never know. I think my son is glad that he knows, for what it's worth.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:48 PM (hFL/3)

670 I've got two college buddies whose wives have each lost two pregnancies in a row. After having several kids. Just devastating for them. Someone try telling them that was just a clump of cells no different than bacteria.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 07:48 PM (GEICT)

671 Grits and grillades is great. You can substitute rice if you don't like grits, ya heathens.

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 07:49 PM (k55Fc)

672 Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 11:41 PM (SHH+J Prayers and hugs. Sorry.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 07:49 PM (LpbKr)

673 Oh, I made pickled green tomatoes the other day with my unripened toms from the garden. They turned out very well. I've never canned before so these were refrigerator pickles.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:49 PM (zDsvJ)

674 First!

Posted by: Opposite George at November 20, 2013 07:49 PM (i9vov)

675 I've had the white gravy - did not like - but I can't bring myself to eat a steak that has been treated that way. What's the appeal? Posted by: Y-not

===
The appeal today is that it is delicious. It originated as a way to stretch the food supply and not waste the grease by frying with it, just like grits, gravy, and most seasonings (were either preservatives or to cover up taste of preservatives/early rot)

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 20, 2013 07:50 PM (G99e4)

676 I have an informal bucket list. Visiting North Korea is not on it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:50 PM (HVff2)

677 668 Very tender. From the days of cheap cheap beef

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 07:50 PM (b7yum)

678 Tonight's trolling was brought to you by: Moo Moo's Major Psychological Issues. When you feel the need to lash out and attack the few people who tolerate your existence ... try Moo Moo's Major Psychological Issues. Do you have delusions of power and grandeur? Do you fantasize about launching purges against tens of millions of people for daring to disagree with you? Do you thrill to delusional visions of forcing others to kneel before you as they renounce their religion and God? Then Moo Moo's Major Psychological Issues is for you! Try it today!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 07:50 PM (ZPrif)

679 Maybe someone suggested to the Palo Alto that he pass the time by playing a game of solitaire.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 20, 2013 07:51 PM (hcHS/)

680 Yikes, wandered into a shit storm I did.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 07:51 PM (FMbng)

681 >>The appeal today is that it is delicious. I guess I should try it someday, but since I believe steak should be served still bleeding, I'm not sure I'll like it.

Posted by: Y-not at November 20, 2013 07:51 PM (zDsvJ)

682 Y-not pickles male cats? Eeewww.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 07:51 PM (fIgFc)

683 Well.

Now after all of the losses recounted before I posted my last piece of snark, I think I will go elsewhere and try to hide my red face of shame.

Sorry all, and good night. I'll try to have some actual funny together tomorrow.

And maybe Anna Puma and I will continue to swap some good ship lore! Mikey does like the heavy metal....

http://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=o7XbH3iz734

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 07:51 PM (gmoEG)

684 Oh, and to dot dot dash and all others grieving miscarriages, my sincerest condolences. I can think of no worse pain.

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Flying Toaster Circus at November 20, 2013 07:51 PM (m9V0o)

685 Thanks guys n' gals Just a story I can't change but thought I'd share.

Posted by: dot dash dot at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (SHH+J)

686 Mr. Moo, go away.

The purpose of government is to protect the innocent. When a government fails to do that it loses its legitimacy.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (V70Uh)

687 Toast up for all the moms here at the HQ, and the moms who might have been, and the moms who lost one. Including my wife. God bless you all.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (4Mv1T)

688 The point of owning AR's is dealing with the assholes who think that determining what I "need" is any of their goddammed business

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (b7yum)

689 I've had the white gravy - did not like - but I can't bring myself to eat a steak that has been treated that way. What's the appeal? *** If you've tried it and didn't like it, then you've tried bad gravy. When prepared properly it is undeniably delicious.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (DmNpO)

690 To this day, our son still mentions his baby brother/sister he never had.

My husband and I were so devastated over losing our baby, we didn't even ask the doctor what sex it was. I feel like a monster for not thinking of asking that question.

I can't count the idiot "friends" who have several children, who, to this day, say, "You're so lucky you only had one! Imagine if you'd had four like us! Such a hassle!"

All. The. Time.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (lVPtV)

691 Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 11:46 PM (lVPtV) If Moo Moo touches that one he's sociopathic.

Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (1Y+hH)

692 My heart goes out to you folks who lost your child this way. I've been so blessed with my 3 daughters

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (HVff2)

693 Hollowpoint , eat some shrimp and grits made proper. You'll be glad you did. I did and I was, except it was called Shrimp Cocktail.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (X9Mnx)

694 I am very pro fun, I just think there's no need for anyone to own an AR-15 (and yes I know all the arguments about why you're entitled to own 100 AR-15s, no need to tell me)

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:50 PM (dfLY4)

===
AR-15: Coyotes, feral/wild dogs, coyodogs, small hogs
AR-10 (larger bore AR-15): medium to large hogs

Until you've had bad encounters with any of those, you can go take a leap if you want to dismiss it as irrelevant and no need for such a platform.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (G99e4)

695 641 Didn't you just have gum grafting I notion long ago?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 11:42 PM (HVff2)

Yep. But the limiting factor is how much tissue they can take off of the roof of your mouth. Since they've already hit the left and right sides, I have to wait three months for it to fully recover before they can do the final graft.

The procedure itself is nearly painless. But as the grafted tissue heals you get maximum swelling right as the nerves reattach which equals uncomfortable pain for a few days to a weel. I could have gotten by with just one graft but since I have dual dental coverage this year and the deductible is met, I figured why not head off future problems so I don't have to go through this again.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 20, 2013 07:52 PM (XkotV)

696 #561

So rare that people are frequently adopting from foreign nations. Nor is it a matter of shopping for an ethnic match, considering how many families I see where the child is obviously not the genetic product of the parents.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2013 07:53 PM (bPxS6)

697 Yikes, wandered into a shit storm I did.
It's okay. The storm front has passed.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 07:53 PM (fIgFc)

698 I gotta say, Montgomery Clift acted the shit out of his role in Judgment at Nuremberg...apparently he was so far gone that he couldn't retain his lines, but he still had me in tears. And I only cry at the end of It's a Wonderful Life. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 20, 2013 11:40 PM (hcHS/)
Hare hunter field.

Posted by: The Huddled Masses at November 20, 2013 07:53 PM (ozktE)

699 dot dash dot -- I'm so sorry for your loss.

I feel like I was visiting your home and you opened a window onto a scene of massive desolation. It's not my home, my life -- I cannot really, truly, share the experience....but I can glimpse it. Close the window, now, have a hug, and let's go play charades in the living room. Please. It's best for both of us.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 07:53 PM (T1005)

700 My mom miscarried 3 or 4 times, late term, before I made it, and again a few years after my brother was born. It happens.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 07:53 PM (Xlbr8)

701 Sorry, Jane. I miscarried our third at 14 weeks. I'd love to have the hassle.

Posted by: no good deed at November 20, 2013 07:54 PM (k55Fc)

702 Ever see "The Misfits" with Clark Gable, Monty Cliff, Eli Wallach and Marilyn Monroe? Incredible. Strange and yet compelling.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 20, 2013 07:55 PM (V70Uh)

703 Okay - this one should not crap out halfway through...

http://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=1H15xhEtn_4

The Outrage Outlet stands by its products!

16" shells of Righteous Wrath our specialty! 20mm of Snark, 40mm of Scorn, and 5" shells of Indignation here!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 07:55 PM (gmoEG)

704 I guess I should try it someday, but since I believe steak should be served still bleeding, I'm not sure I'll like it. *** It's made with cube-steak, a thin, pounded round cut. It's practically perfect for Southern-frying.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2013 07:57 PM (DmNpO)

705 What does The Outrage Outlet carry in .45?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2013 07:57 PM (JawqV)

706 Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at November 20, 2013 11:52 PM (XkotV O fuck Maet, my upcoming knee replacement sounds like a walk (pardon the pun) in the park compared to what you went through. Good luck with recovery & good luck with it in the future.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 07:57 PM (HVff2)

707 To the next air-headed mom/dad who says to us, "You've ONLY GOT ONE CHILD, imagine if you had to deal with our four/five," I want to scream at them.

I've been silent and polite for too long.

SHUT THE FUCK UP. We get that you have a bunch of kids you're proud of. And our other kids died.

STFU.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:57 PM (lVPtV)

708 @705, I'm intrigued by that cast. Clark and Montgomery owned the screen. I don't think Marilyn gets enough credit for her acting.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 20, 2013 07:58 PM (hcHS/)

709 Ugh. And now I'm off to bed. Angry. Not good.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 07:58 PM (lVPtV)

710 Maet, I had gum graft last September from a specialist because my dentist does not do it. Specialist told me I was going to have big bruise on my face because I donÂ’t weigh much I had never heard that one.

Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 07:59 PM (z4WKX)

711

Hiya Y.

You Chicken Fry a Steak because it's a tough cut.

Only thing bad about Chicken Fried Steak with Mashed Potato and Country Gravy is ...well, nothing. It's a classic.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2013 07:59 PM (2TQQt)

712 691 The point of owning AR's is dealing with the assholes who think that determining what I "need" is any of their goddammed business

Yep, there's a reason the 2nd doesn't say The right to keep and bear arms...that other people decide you need....shall not be infringed.

Posted by: booger at November 20, 2013 07:59 PM (xRDdL)

713 Oh Jane, I'm so sorry that you had to hear such crass and thoughtless comments. I try to always be aware of anything I say regarding my kids being difficult or anything like that because you just never know what another person is going through. How awful that the DID know and still... On that note, I'll tell you all the story of the Worst Person In The World, hey she's single Mr. Moo Moo! One of my husband's cousin's was married to a really awful woman. They were visiting from out of town and she was about 6 months pregnant with their second. They had just gotten back from 6 flags where she'd rode roller coasters all day long. They asked if we were planning to have more children. We explained that yes, we hoped to, but had been struggling with secondary infertility and had just had a miscarriage a few weeks earlier. Her response? "Oh man, I would trade places with you in a second! I don't want this one at all!" I think my husband said something like "Well, there's always adoption." and I just stood there blinking.

Posted by: Lauren at November 20, 2013 07:59 PM (hFL/3)

714 Ever see "The Misfits" with Clark Gable, Monty Cliff, Eli Wallach and Marilyn Monroe? Incredible. Strange and yet compelling. *** Yep. I watched it rather tearfully knowing that it had been the last for Monroe and Gable. And, Monroe played her role with such subtlety. Simply beautiful.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2013 08:00 PM (DmNpO)

715 700 Yikes, wandered into a shit storm I did. It's okay. The storm front has passed. Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 11:53 PM (fIgFc) & the funny thing is that TWC didn't have a shit storm warning in the forecast. The storm that passed is a pompous ass wipe douchenozzle I've encountered here.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 08:00 PM (HVff2)

716 I can't count the idiot "friends" who have several children, who, to this day, say, "You're so lucky you only had one! Imagine if you'd had four like us! Such a hassle!" All. The. Time.Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 11:52 PM (lVPtV)
Do they say it humorously or are they dead serious?

Posted by: The Huddled Masses at November 20, 2013 08:00 PM (ozktE)

717 711, It was such a strange film. At the end I realized that it wasn't the horses that were misfits. It was the cast.

Gable found out right after filming that he was going to be a father and died before the child was born. That scene where Gable wrangles the stallion is just awesome. A man of his age doing that kind of work. Maybe that was what killed him.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 20, 2013 08:01 PM (V70Uh)

718 I have an informal bucket list. Visiting North Korea is not on it. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Sans tank

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2013 08:02 PM (CMlD4)

719 SHUT THE FUCK UP. We get that you have a bunch of kids you're proud of. And our other kids died. STFU. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 11:57 PM (lVPtV) Mom had 16 brothers/sisters. Never a .gov handout. They struggled,mbut thankfully they had community.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 08:02 PM (LpbKr)

720 My wife gets really pissed about welfare mommas with 4, 5, 6 kids. Meanwhile, we cut the number of kids we planned to have in half because we knew that we financially couldn't afford it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 08:02 PM (GEICT)

721 Hey BC!

Any other takers so far?

Have you asked in the ONT?

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:03 PM (doBIb)

722 713 Maet,
I had gum graft last September from a specialist because my dentist does not do it. Specialist told me I was going to have big bruise on my face because I donÂ’t weigh much I had never heard that one.
Posted by: CarolT at November 20, 2013 11:59 PM (z4WKX)

Well there is a lot of tugging, banging, and stretching during the procedure plus swelling afterwards. The morning after the first graft I looked like Rocky circa the fourth round. This time there was very little swelling or pain the day after.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 20, 2013 08:03 PM (XkotV)

723 My wife gets really pissed about welfare mommas with 4, 5, 6 kids. Meanwhile, we cut the number of kids we planned to have in half because we knew that we financially couldn't afford it. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 21, 2013 12:02 AM There really is no avoiding the conclusion that being responsible and making tough decisions is increasingly a sucker's bet.

Posted by: grognard at November 20, 2013 08:03 PM (bTnE9)

724 In hindsight, I wish I had more children. Yeah, their expensive, but more to love.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 20, 2013 08:04 PM (V70Uh)

725 Sorry Jane. Didn't read your comment to the end.

Posted by: RWC at November 20, 2013 08:04 PM (LpbKr)

726 Yup, had one from earlier EC. No, I haven't. The earlier ONT was a shitstorm and now I think a lot of folks have headed off to bed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 08:04 PM (GEICT)

727 I guess I am old fashioned.
I care more about my personal convictions than winning elections.
There is some sh*t I will NOT eat.

Posted by: navybrat at November 20, 2013 08:04 PM (h77Mi)

728 Ah well...there's always tomorrow.

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:05 PM (doBIb)

729 [and] the funny thing is that TWC didn't have a shit storm warning in the forecast.
Well what did you expect? TWC thinks it can see into the future 100 years to when the Earth is covered in Al Gore's shit but can't predict a shit storm this morning hitting the ONT tonight.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 08:05 PM (fIgFc)

730

Shit. I just got here.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2013 08:05 PM (2TQQt)

731

There has been some degree of churlishness.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 08:05 PM (9gNQd)

732 Another excellent ONT Maetenloch!

Let's see 8 tabs with AoS in which 6 of them are ONTs going back to 16 NOV.

Gotta get a laser printer for Xmas. Have a great Thanksgiving horde!
Just saw the Robocop 2014 re-release. Some thing to look forward to:

The demise of 404Care and the building of 'The perfect product'.

Posted by: Forty Baht Barack at November 20, 2013 08:05 PM (iIUSK)

733 welfare moms is just cuckoldry in action. cuckoldry has long been a successful strategy.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 20, 2013 08:05 PM (ZPrif)

734 YupÂ….I'll send you an email in a sec with some specifics.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 08:05 PM (GEICT)

735 Jane if you had 1 or 4 they would have been brought up wonderfully. Your on is a perfect example. Tell him from a Yankee Wisconsin boy thank you for serving my family, me & our country

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 08:06 PM (HVff2)

736 My inner 12 year old still giggles when someone says they're trying to have a kid, because it's a polite way of saying "we're doing a whole lot of fucking".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 08:06 PM (X9Mnx)

737 Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2013 11:57 PM (JawqV)

We have all Ammunition of Dismissive Attitudes of any common pistol calibers. The more exotic Ammunitions of Fiery Temperment need to be special ordered.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:07 PM (gmoEG)

738 Shit. I just got here.Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2013 12:05 AM (2TQQt)
Missed it by that much.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at November 20, 2013 08:07 PM (ozktE)

739 Wendy Davis is gonna be the next Governor of Texas. Deal with it wingnuts.

And fuck John Roberts for not overturning the Texas abortion ban!

Posted by: Mr Pigshit at November 20, 2013 08:07 PM (1j9qS)

740 Ah well...there's always tomorrow.
You're supposed to take the curtain rod out before you make clothes out of your drapes, EC.
;^)

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 08:08 PM (fIgFc)

741 Caligula: 1400 Days of Terror now on H2 channel

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2013 08:08 PM (DmNpO)

742 Posted by: andycanuck at November 21, 2013 12:05 AM (fIgFc) Point taken Andy, then again NOAA didn't have it either. Must be sequester or the mean pro- life folks

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 08:08 PM (HVff2)

743 I guess I am old fashioned. I care more about my personal convictions than winning elections. There is some sh*t I will NOT eat. Posted by: navybrat --------------------------------- This is completely lost on the object of our current ONT derision. He is actually a very lucid individual, but with no perspective of right and wrong. It is all relative to him, and what will win elections, and save him money.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:09 PM (4Mv1T)

744 I won't believe it, Misanthropic Humanitarian, until polar bears start turning brown.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2013 08:10 PM (fIgFc)

745 So it's Canada where Michelle Obama gets her food-Nazi ideas?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 20, 2013 08:10 PM (KL49F)

746 Caligula? Now that guy had style!

Posted by: Lord Zero at November 20, 2013 08:10 PM (1j9qS)

747 Not only is abortion keeping millions of Americans from jumping to vote Republican, don't forget their opposition to Amnesty keeps millions of naturally conservative Hispanics from joining the GOP

Posted by: Senor Ruido de las Vacas at November 20, 2013 08:10 PM (aTXUx)

748 What up TR!

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:10 PM (doBIb)

749 Check yo mail EC

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 08:11 PM (GEICT)

750 Caligula? Now that guy had style! *** Sigh. If only...

Posted by: SCOAMF at November 20, 2013 08:11 PM (DmNpO)

751 Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 21, 2013 12:09 AM (4Mv1T) Lucid? I have other adjectives, adverbs & maybe even a preposition for him. But on a brighter note how is that BC/BS going for you?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 08:11 PM (HVff2)

752 Caligula? Now that guy had style!

Posted by: Lord Zero at November 21, 2013 12:10 AM

The C-dog liked the night life. He liked to boogie.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 08:11 PM (9gNQd)

753 Howdy EC. You arrived right on time. The blood letting has just ceased. And I wasted a whole bunch a better than average scotch on all this yelling.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:12 PM (4Mv1T)

754 ONT hot-assery!!!

http://tinyurl.com/kolgf22

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:12 PM (doBIb)

755 Caligula had a horse as a Senator. Obama has a horse-faced Secretary of State who used to be a Senator. Coincidence? Or conspiracy?

Posted by: Biff Boffo at November 20, 2013 08:13 PM (1j9qS)

756 SHUT THE FUCK UP. We get that you have a bunch of kids you're proud of. And our other kids died.

STFU.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 11:57 PM (lVPtV)

I'm sorry. I just do the "Outrage Outlet" jokes to try - in my own way - to entertain me and others, and maybe get the temper in here to drop a few notches. I miss the AoSHQ when there would be the Top Ten Lists of, say, "Slang Ways of Saying 'You're Screwed in the Star Wars Galaxy' #8 "Our exhaust just got ported."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:13 PM (gmoEG)

757 The C-dog liked the night life. He liked to boogie. **** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umAurdHLNzU

Posted by: SCOAMF at November 20, 2013 08:13 PM (DmNpO)

758 off sock

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2013 08:14 PM (DmNpO)

759 http://www.teefury.com

The design on the right made me laugh. H.P. Lovecraft meets the Kool-aid guy.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2013 08:14 PM (JawqV)

760 But on a brighter note how is that BC/BS going for you? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian -------------------------------- BCBS? Abandoned. We can discuss off-line. But it won't be anything surprising in light of news in the past 6 weeks.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:14 PM (4Mv1T)

761 The most insensitive thing people say to a couple that just lost a child is "you're young, you can always have another one"

It's like they were talking about a wrecked car

Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2013 08:15 PM (aTXUx)

762 Why do we keep having to hear about Matt Lauer's testicles and prostate? I'm guessing it's part of rehabbing his image after Ann Curry got canned, but I can't see how this helps exactly...

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 20, 2013 08:15 PM (KL49F)

763 pow!

Posted by: oops at November 20, 2013 08:15 PM (qkb3t)

764 Polar bears turning brown? Evolution? Or just that Kodiaks have more fun? Btw global warming has a low of 5 & a high of 15 for Saturday for deer opener. I will leave my carbon footprint burning LP gas in my pop up blind. I'm too old to be cold

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 08:15 PM (HVff2)

765 OK, I'm out we'll have words in the AM, I'm sure

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2013 08:15 PM (JMmQ9)

766 Even more naughty ONT hot-assery goodness!

http://tinyurl.com/kpqsywx

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:15 PM (doBIb)

767 Hey, Berserker (and any other guitar-playing geeks out there) -- I picked this up today:

http://is.gd/xmq0CK

I'm hoping to trade up a little after I get some strings and a setup done on it (unless, of course, I fall in love with it -- though, it's not really my style of guitar these days). What do you suppose would be something within swapping range in a more traditional Les Paul, Strat or Tele style in a private-party swap, as opposed to a guitar shop?

There's some pretty minor nicks in the clear-coat, but otherwise, it seems to be in pretty solid shape. It's a Dean Dime From Hell Baby, I think.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 08:15 PM (m0h0I)

768 Hey TR How is the kid doing? good?

Posted by: Jake ID at November 20, 2013 08:16 PM (qkb3t)

769

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 20, 2013 08:16 PM (lq3Ak)

770 The design on the right made me laugh. H.P. Lovecraft meets the Kool-aid guy. Posted by: Blanco Basura My cultish heart votes for the Cthulhu T, but the Cookeh Monster is gift worthy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 08:18 PM (KVY+w)

771 What is the point of winning elections if you must surrender those things that matter to you in an elected official?

I'm reminded of this:
Once at a social gathering, Gladstone said to Disraeli, "I predict, Sir, that you will die either by hanging or of some vile disease". Disraeli replied, "That all depends, sir, upon whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."

This is a misquotation of John Wilkes & the Earl of Sandwich, not Gladstone & Disraeli. ~~ AllanHainey (from history, 16:04, 16 Jun 2005)

Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2013 08:18 PM (bPxS6)

772 Oops sorry to hear, maybe I can yak to you about it next week on my return. Hang in her TR

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 08:18 PM (HVff2)

773 And speaking of Star Wars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kw_d3d0XAo

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:18 PM (gmoEG)

774 The most insensitive thing people say to a couple that just lost a child is "you're young, you can always have another one" It's like they were talking about a wrecked car Posted by: kbdabear at November 21, 2013 12:15 AM (aTXUx) that seems sooooo thoughtful, there are a way lot of assholes out there I think

Posted by: Jake ID at November 20, 2013 08:19 PM (qkb3t)

775 Jake! The gang's all here. Those not banned, anyway. He's two weeks out of surgery, and getting around pretty good. Thanks for asking. He's still completely nuts. But so am I. Just older and wiser.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:19 PM (4Mv1T)

776 29 I miss Laura Bush. Remember when we had a classy, intelligent, First Lady?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2013 09:38 PM (lVPtV)

*sigh*, yes, remember when we had a First LADY who wore stockings and covered her arms? We never had to hear about her "guns" either.

Michelle O was quoted today as saying that "sometimes I forget I'm First Lady"; sometimes she forgets she's a "lady" period. Plus, I wish *I* could forget she was First Lady, too!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 20, 2013 08:19 PM (KL49F)

777 Wendy Davis is gonna be the next Governor of Texas. Deal with it wingnuts. Posted by: Mr Pigshit Heh.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 08:19 PM (KVY+w)

778 BBC America has been running Dr Who all week

Tonight they showed the final episode with David Tennant

The Master changes everyone on the planet to copies of himself, while Obama is at the podium giving a speech

The Time Lords change everyone back, but unfortunately they changed Obama back too

The Master was a nasty guy, but still an improvement over Obama

Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2013 08:20 PM (aTXUx)

779 TR, did you ever find a holster that fit just right?

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:20 PM (doBIb)

780 My cultish heart votes for the Cthulhu T, but the Cookeh Monster is gift worthy.

It's not Cookie's fault, he was once an upstanding citizen. Then one fateful day: http://www.tickld.com/t/27561

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2013 08:20 PM (JawqV)

781 The Master was a nasty guy, but still an improvement over Obama

The original Master, Roger Delgado, can't be beat in terms of sheer menace. He owned that role.

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:21 PM (doBIb)

782 So up thread is a pro abortion, you have enough guns guy? really here? what is next "you have made enough money?"

Posted by: Jake ID at November 20, 2013 08:21 PM (qkb3t)

783 Janes melatonins kicked in, I think my lunest is kicking in. Off to deer camps tomorrow through Tuesday. No news, no pc, no requests to leave the ONT in 1 piece or at least save the pieces. Be well horde, see ya next week God willing & the snow banks don't rise

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 08:22 PM (HVff2)

784 TR, did you ever find a holster that fit just right? Posted by: EC ---------------------------- I did not. The quest continues.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:22 PM (4Mv1T)

785 I did not. The quest continues.

Co-worker was travelling all over today looking for a Guv'nah. He went to Young Guns and I think to FGG too.

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:23 PM (doBIb)

786 The original Master, Roger Delgado, can't be beat in terms of sheer menace. He owned that role.

Posted by: EC at November 21, 2013 12:21 AM

This is no Master not named Delgado. There is no Davros not named Wisher. It's a scientific fact.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 08:23 PM (9gNQd)

787 Good to see you Jake, how are you and the Jakettes?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2013 08:25 PM (HVff2)

788 TR, you are still up for some IDPA right? have you had a chance to give it a go? do tell on the holster quest, I have experianced this

Posted by: Jake ID at November 20, 2013 08:25 PM (qkb3t)

789 @ 769 [EC] -- I think you'll like this one:

http://is.gd/2tZJzl

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 08:25 PM (m0h0I)

790 If you like The Doctor, you can keep The Doctor

Posted by: Barry The Master at November 20, 2013 08:26 PM (aTXUx)

791 Everyone, can I have your attention please!

BCochran is taking up a collection for a special someone in need at the HQ. It is definitely a worthy cause and if you are interested in donating ANY amount, please contact him at "bcochran1981" at gmail dot com for further details and information.

Thank you from all of us!

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:26 PM (doBIb)

792 767 Polar bears turning brown? Evolution? Or just that Kodiaks have more fun?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 21, 2013 12:15 AM (HVff2)
How will that change polar bear hunting (knockout)?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 20, 2013 08:27 PM (ozktE)

793 Problems with clone armies:

"Hey! How did you get promoted?"
"I'm not an F-up like you."
"You aren't an F-up? You ARE me!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:27 PM (gmoEG)

794 792 @ 769 [EC] -- I think you'll like this one:

http://is.gd/2tZJzl

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 12:25 AM (m0h0I)

Whoa!

Put more ass on that lass!!!!

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:27 PM (doBIb)

795 hmm no more winamp come next month

Posted by: The Dude at November 20, 2013 08:28 PM (vJdyz)

796 Problems with clone armies:

The general is no better at this than the privates.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:28 PM (gmoEG)

797 How about this one?

Extreme close-up hawtness!!!

http://tinyurl.com/b3yb32c

May be almost, kind of, assuredly NSFW.

Posted by: EC at November 20, 2013 08:29 PM (doBIb)

798 773 The design on the right made me laugh. H.P. Lovecraft meets the Kool-aid guy.
Posted by: Blanco Basura

My cultish heart votes for the Cthulhu T, but the Cookeh Monster is gift worthy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 21, 2013 12:18 AM (KVY+w)

I'm sure it will come as no great surprise which one I had to have.....

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 08:29 PM (T1005)

799 Interesting abortion deal. My lovely wife and I had a bit of a discussion on this very topic the other day. A much older friend of ours is strongly pro-not-killing-really-small-out-of-sight-out-of-mind-people, but thinks she's a staunch democrat. I said that's impossible. You can't be both. And here's why. It's silly to say a fetus isn't a person. Here's how you can tell. Kill all the fetuses. Then count the people. It's almost like there's a relationship or something. The debate is when do we feel comfortable killing them, and being able to still try to rationalize it. There's never been, not once, in all of history, a human that was not a fetus. Never. If you take the stance that it's a person, then I honestly don't see how you can support a party that advocates wholesale butchery like the democrats. It's like saying that you're a nazi, but would never support putting the lovely Jewish family down the street into a train car. Or invading Poland. Or both. On this issue, it would seem to be binary. You can't, I think disagree on this one around the margins.. Here's why. I'm a relatively large guy, and I really have all the kids I want (I think both my 20 y/o girl and the 17 y/o boy are just now becoming viable outside the womb), why should I give a crap about someone else's abortion? Morally (note, not necessarily religion) do I have an obligation to protect the weaker around me? If the answer is no, I don't, well, then, game on. Might makes right; and human history is mostly that, and I'm very well positioned to take what I want from people. And since it's none of your damn business what I do to people that aren't personally important to you, and you don't have a moral obligation to stop me, I expect that will be a pretty popular political platform for those of us that will be running things; you know, like thunderdome. Unless I do have a moral obligation; then that changes everything, and I should try like hell to ensure that the weak and innocent are not preyed upon. Or dismembered and sucked up through a vacuum.

Posted by: Mikeb at November 20, 2013 08:29 PM (LAo8v)

800 Jake- I haven't shot IDPA just yet. So many distractions. Son just out of the hospital. He's fine. Just a big distraction. Re: holsters. I was just trying to find a better IWB for my EDC. G30SF. Very hard to find.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:31 PM (4Mv1T)

801 @ 800 [EC] -- Land o' Goshen!

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 08:31 PM (m0h0I)

802 Posted by: Mikeb at November 21, 2013 12:29 AM (LAo8v)

Great post!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 20, 2013 08:32 PM (KL49F)

803 Problems with clone armies:

You don't think the Emperor had Julius Caesar cloned, now did you? Why create a multitude of threats when you can just clone Sergeant Schultz who isn't a threat to any-

Oh wait. Can we recall that ord-
We can't?
Fifty Thousand of them?
Crap.

Better lay in a thirty years supply of strudel for fifty thousand.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:33 PM (gmoEG)

804 798 hmm no more winamp come next month

Posted by: The Dude at November 21, 2013 12:28 AM (vJdyz)

Say what?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 08:33 PM (T1005)

805 hmm no more winamp come next month Posted by: The Dude Say what, ninja?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 08:34 PM (KVY+w)

806 790 Good to see you Jake, how are you and the Jakettes? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 21, 2013 12:25 AM (HVff2) doing well, oldest Jake shot a .22 rifle for the first time a few weeks ago. we are gun peeps you know

Posted by: Jake ID at November 20, 2013 08:34 PM (qkb3t)

807 The worst part of being in a clone army is when one of your fellow soldiers tells you to go fuck yourself, you won't know if it's an insult or a proposition for gay sex.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 08:35 PM (X9Mnx)

808 @ 803 [Tobacco Road] -- Glad to hear your son's doing better. Sounds like one hell of a procedure he had to go through.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 08:35 PM (m0h0I)

809 Re: holsters. I was just trying to find a better IWB for my EDC. G30SF. Very hard to find. Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 21, 2013 12:31 AM (4Mv1T) What have you tried? Have you looked at any of the Milt Sparks IWB's?

Posted by: Jake ID at November 20, 2013 08:37 PM (qkb3t)

810 Glad to hear your son's doing better. Sounds like one hell of a procedure he had to go through. Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO ------------------------------------ Thank you. I try to make light of it. He was out and about a week after we got home 10 days ago.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:39 PM (4Mv1T)

811 The worst part of being in a clone army is when one of your fellow soldiers tells you to go fuck yourself, you won't know if it's an insult or a proposition for gay sex.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 21, 2013 12:35 AM (X9Mnx)

Fragging your commanding officer is just like suicide.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:39 PM (gmoEG)

812 It sucks, the thing about Winamp. It used to be my go-to mp3 player for years.

I downloaded GOM Audio the other day, and it seems to be pretty decent -- though I haven't used it enough to get familiar with it, so I don't know how it'll compare to Winamp after the learning curve.

http://audio.gomlab.com/eng/

Their media player is the video equivalent of Winamp for me.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 08:40 PM (m0h0I)

813 Problems with being in a clone army:

Going to the enlisted club and trying to buy a drink only for yourself.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:40 PM (gmoEG)

814 I'm hoping to trade up a little after I get some strings and a setup done on it (unless, of course, I fall in love with it -- though, it's not really my style of guitar these days). What do you suppose would be something within swapping range in a more traditional Les Paul, Strat or Tele style in a private-party swap, as opposed to a guitar shop?

There's some pretty minor nicks in the clear-coat, but otherwise, it seems to be in pretty solid shape. It's a Dean Dime From Hell Baby, I think.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 12:15 AM

Nobody else has weighed in, unfortunately I don't know anything about Deans. Have you played it? How much did it set you back?

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 08:41 PM (9gNQd)

815 Problems with being in a clone army:

No, the psychiatrists actually know what it is like to be you.
Yes, they hate you too.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:42 PM (gmoEG)

816 Jake- Not many people make a holster for that handgun. Not sure why. Plus some fit, some don't, as I have discovered. I like that pistol, so I'll keep what I got for now.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:43 PM (4Mv1T)

817 Is the Bovine Bloviator gone? After reading his comments I need to take a shower to get the smell of bovine excrement from my body. What a hideous human being.

Posted by: mpfs at November 20, 2013 08:43 PM (Fjdw8)

818 Problems with being in a clone army:

The priest asks why you aren't confessing the sins you are planning on committing next weekend.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:43 PM (gmoEG)

819 The worst part of being in a clone army is when the Q-store runs out of your uniform size, you're screwed.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 08:45 PM (9gNQd)

820 What a hideous human being. Posted by: mpfs ---------------------- And he keeps returning to the scene of the crime. The HQ.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:45 PM (4Mv1T)

821 http://tinyurl.com/l8e6v6e
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 20, 2013 10:29 PM (GEICT)

One of the very few cases where you can say, "Too much bacon"

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 10:31 PM (AO9UG)

Not too much, just poorly placed...however the thought of eating that bacon......problem sol-ved!

Posted by: bill-o at November 20, 2013 08:45 PM (AWwDY)

822 Problems with being in a clone army:

No matter how hard you work you can never achieve being Number 1.

Posted by: The Hickster at November 20, 2013 08:47 PM (DUGve)

823 "No. It's what happens when you study biology."

Got As in bio and I don't believe the equivalency BS, maybe you were doing it wrong

Posted by: bill-o at November 20, 2013 08:47 PM (AWwDY)

824 Problems with being in a clone army: Posted by: Mikey NTH No one else thinks Quentin Tarantino is a one-note pastiche hack.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 08:47 PM (KVY+w)

825 Still one the finest movies ever Judgement at Nuremberg.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 08:48 PM (BXhlo)

826 I plucked at it a little bit. The action could be a bit lower, and the strings were atrocious -- bought for a kid a few years ago who didn't want to go to the trouble of learning how to play it. I got it and a Guitar Research practice amp for $200. The guitar seems pretty nice, and will probably play pretty well after a setup.

I'm hoping to trade-up with a kid who has a nicer guitar, but doesn't like it because it doesn't look cool enough. The "Dimebag" name might carry a little extra weight with a younger player who wants to shred but has a decent Squier Strat or Tele he isn't crazy about.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 08:48 PM (m0h0I)

827 Clone Army Problems: When your kids grow up, they'll be in great danger of committing incest without knowing it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 08:48 PM (X9Mnx)

828 It has moo-ved on. Posted by: somejoe ------------------------- Well played.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:49 PM (4Mv1T)

829 So this was a 'Hi' and 'bye' drive by, gotta go back to work. Stay safe, shoot straight

Posted by: Jake ID at November 20, 2013 08:50 PM (qkb3t)

830 Problems with being in a clone army:

Everyone knows what you were doing at the back of the motor pool because...ummm...

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:50 PM (gmoEG)

831 Problems with being in a clone army: Mail call gets ... confusing.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 08:51 PM (KVY+w)

832 'night Jake. Hugs to those little ones.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:51 PM (4Mv1T)

833 Clone Army problems - "Who's your Daddy" gets confusing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 08:52 PM (BXhlo)

834 Problems with being in a clone army:

If you don't get a birthday card it actually means they don't like you. Or themselves either.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:53 PM (gmoEG)

835 Clone Army Problems - Estate Planning

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 08:54 PM (4Mv1T)

836 - "Who's your Daddy" gets confusing. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) I'm gonna have to jinx that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 08:55 PM (KVY+w)

837 Clone Army Problems: When you're 19, there's no chance that the bouncer is going to be fooled by a fake ID

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 08:55 PM (X9Mnx)

838 Problems with being in a clone army:

Even if CIS gets fingerprints and DNA that just narrows down the suspects to the other 50,000 on base.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 08:56 PM (gmoEG)

839 Clone Army Problems: Constantly asked if you were on Maury last week.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 08:58 PM (m0h0I)

840 ???jinx???

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 09:00 PM (BXhlo)

841 It's not murder. And anywhere from 60 to 80% of the public agrees.

Right because if s/o believes it isn't it can't be...I'm sorry but what is or isn't is not subject to polling

Posted by: bill-o at November 20, 2013 09:01 PM (AWwDY)

842 I plucked at it a little bit. The action could be a bit lower, and the strings were atrocious -- bought for a kid a few years ago who didn't want to go to the trouble of learning how to play it. I got it and a Guitar Research practice amp for $200. The guitar seems pretty nice, and will probably play pretty well after a setup.

I'm hoping to trade-up with a kid who has a nicer guitar, but doesn't like it because it doesn't look cool enough. The "Dimebag" name might carry a little extra weight with a younger player who wants to shred but has a decent Squier Strat or Tele he isn't crazy about.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 12:48 AM

Plus an amp, for $200? You're laughing. Yeah, it's flashy enough to get your $$$ back, even if it's a disastercaster. Might go alright after a set up. I'm a little iffy on the Squier strats, generally. They don't come as close to an old Strat as their Tele's do to old Tele's. Not saying they suck, they just don't seem to translate as well as an econ version... in my limited experience with Squier Strats. Still good value for an econ Strat, though... just the Squier Tele comes closer, for the $$$. If you can swap the Dean for an S-Strat, however, or offset the cost, it's a win, for sure. Keep your eye out for Epiphone Les Pauls, as well.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 09:01 PM (9gNQd)

843 Problems with being in a clone army:

So how do we ask for volunteers?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:02 PM (gmoEG)

844 838 Problems with being in a clone army:

If you don't get a birthday card it actually means they don't like you. Or themselves either.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 21, 2013 12:53 AM (gmoEG)

I was thinking about that....just because you're a clone doesn't mean you share a birthday. So what if it's "Happy Birthday, Joe Clone" 365 days a year?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 09:03 PM (T1005)

845 844 ???jinx??? Posted by: Anna Puma >>835 Problems with being in a clone army: Mail call gets ... confusing. Posted by: weft cut-loop VS. 837 Clone Army problems - "Who's your Daddy" gets confusing. Posted by: Anna Puma Missed it by that much. But who's counting?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 09:07 PM (KVY+w)

846 Posted by: cthulhu at November 21, 2013 01:03 AM (T1005)

They should remember because I know because you know that I know and they should know about how much I know about us knowing about how we know so much about them....

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:09 PM (gmoEG)

847 @ 846 [otho] -- Thanks for the input! I've been leaning toward the S-Tele, as I've just recently grown infatuated with Telecasters. But, if I can lay hands on an Epiphone LP, I'll be all over that in a hurry.

I've been doing a lot of reading on the S-Strats lately, and your take on them seems to comport with the impression I've gotten. Apparently, they've been farmed out all over the East, and whether or not you get a good one is a complete crap-shoot. There's even a lot of disagreement over where the better ones were made, and which serial numbers are the good ones.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 09:09 PM (m0h0I)

848 I hope for the sake of her moral self-esteem that Marcotte never swatted a fly.

Posted by: FOAF at November 20, 2013 09:09 PM (rZ7kp)

849 Problems with being in a clone army:

Try second-guessing someone.

No, seriously. Try it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:09 PM (gmoEG)

850 Re: miscarriages, I get to break that news all too often. Many times it is the first miscarriage. In those cases, I always tell the patient that the odds are in their favor of carrying another pregnancy to term, as this is a major concern for many women. Obviously, I say it with more tact than "you can always try for another!" Also, Moo-cow never did respond to my thought experiment question. Poor thing's bovine brain might have melted at the implications.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at November 20, 2013 09:10 PM (R+XDI)

851

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 12:40 AM (m0h0I)

go Musicbee

Posted by: The Dude at November 20, 2013 09:10 PM (vJdyz)

852 Problems with being in a clone army:

Trivial Pursuit is even more of a waste of time than it is otherwise.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:10 PM (gmoEG)

853 And charades.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:11 PM (gmoEG)

854 @ 855 [The Dude] -- Interesting! The GUI looks a hell of a lot like Adobe Lightroom, which I use quite a bit. I'll definitely have to check it out.

Thanks for the tip!

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 09:13 PM (m0h0I)

855

I plucked at it a little bit. The action could be a bit lower, and the strings were atrocious -- bought for a kid a few years ago who didn't want to go to the trouble of learning how to play it. I got it and a Guitar Research practice amp for $200. The guitar seems pretty nice, and will probably play pretty well after a setup. I'm hoping to trade-up with a kid who has a nicer guitar, but doesn't like it because it doesn't look cool enough. The "Dimebag" name might carry a little extra weight with a younger player who wants to shred but has a decent Squier Strat or Tele he isn't crazy about.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 12:48 AM

I'd also recommend that you keep a look out for a 1970's Ibanez Les Paul, or, Ibanez studio. They made pretty serious Gibson copies back then and won't set you back too much, in the rough range of Squier Telecaster from the same period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBC1D_ISAVk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5jznz4o6R0

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 09:14 PM (9gNQd)

856 Problems with being in a clone army: WC time.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 09:14 PM (KVY+w)

857

Problems with being in a clone army:

Security has to come up with something other than fingerprints or retina scans.

Posted by: Panhandler at November 20, 2013 09:15 PM (LqVNJ)

858 Problems with a clone army?

When a platoon goes off base, gets drunk, visits a tattoo parlor, and have the same bar-code when they sober up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 20, 2013 09:17 PM (BXhlo)

859 BE A CLONE - FLY A DRONE!

Posted by: Panhandler at November 20, 2013 09:17 PM (LqVNJ)

860 Problems with being in a clone army:

If you had amnesia how would you know?

Who could tell?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:18 PM (gmoEG)

861 Problems with being in a clone army:

It isn't any fun being the wise-ass when the guy next to you is saying the same quip in stereo. It isn't any fun being the wise-ass when the guy next to you is saying the same quip in stereo. It isn't any fun being the wise-ass when the guy next to you is saying the same quip in stereo.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:21 PM (gmoEG)

862 @ 859 [otho] -- Very nice. That ST100 was a beauty. I appreciate the pointer. I saw an Ibanez in the same body style on a local barter/trade Facebook page last night, but there was no information about it other than a picture and the word Ibanez. It was the same body style as the ST100, but I suppose it could be a complete piece of crap beyond that.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 09:23 PM (m0h0I)

863 Thanks for the input! I've been leaning toward the S-Tele, as I've just recently grown infatuated with Telecasters. But, if I can lay hands on an Epiphone LP, I'll be all over that in a hurry.

I've been doing a lot of reading on the S-Strats lately, and your take on them seems to comport with the impression I've gotten. Apparently, they've been farmed out all over the East, and whether or not you get a good one is a complete crap-shoot. There's even a lot of disagreement over where the better ones were made, and which serial numbers are the good ones.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 01:09 AM

Good to hear your new found love for Telecasters. I am suspicious of people that don't love them. I think they may be communists... and gay. So that's the reason for the hit and miss S-Strat factor? It makes sense. I always thought it must be because the strat is a more complicated design. You might get a good one, but you might not. The S-Tele's have a much higher hit rate.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 09:23 PM (9gNQd)

864 It isn't any fun being the wise-ass when the guy next to you is saying the same quip in stereo. Posted by: Mikey NTH FOR-matting is for looooooosers, son!

Posted by: Yer Sarge in the Clone ARMY [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 09:24 PM (KVY+w)

865 http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-surgeon-gets-suspended-sentence-australia

(O)(O)

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 20, 2013 09:26 PM (Xlbr8)

866 Problems with being in a clone army:

When you are in that tight spot, pinned down, and it is just you and your closest buds, and you ask

"So, anyone got any ideas?"

that then you know - and you know your best buds also know because they are you - that each and everyone of you is completely, royally screwed.

And you also know that none of you brought a Snickers bar to use to relieve the tension with a joke.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:27 PM (gmoEG)

867 Problems with being in a clone army:

The Human Resources clones are so twitchy from trying to keep the files straight they're scary. Norman Bates scary.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:30 PM (gmoEG)

868 What Other Sexual Lifestyle Will Obamacare Ads Cater Too Next? Obamacare ads are now advertising to not only to the perpetual man-child, but to skanks. It begs the question: What sexual lifestyle will Obamacare cater to next? More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=4009

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 20, 2013 09:34 PM (Vk2pI)

869 851. Coughcharvelsandimascough Like you guys didn't know the fanboi was around

Posted by: Wedding cake at November 20, 2013 09:36 PM (Yu5xN)

870 873. Wtf sock? Now who was I harrassing?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2013 09:37 PM (Yu5xN)

871 Fragging your commanding officer is just like suicide. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 21, 2013 12:39 AM (gmoEG) A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo

Posted by: T*h*e P*o*l*i*t*i*c*a*l H*a*t at November 20, 2013 09:39 PM (Vk2pI)

872 587 A story on abortion. When I was a young man I got a girl pregnant. We discussed abortion as an option but got married instead. After my first daughter was born and I held her for the first time I have forever been horrified that that one choice would have wiped out a life that I would willingly die for today.

Posted by: The Hickster

EXTREMIST!!!!

Posted by: moooooo at November 20, 2013 09:39 PM (d+Wjy)

873 BC 1981 if your still here just sent you an e-mail.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at November 20, 2013 09:39 PM (KuZ6A)

874 Problems with being in a clone army:

Just walking to your duty station you look up, salute the soldier you are passing, and think, "Did I shave this morning?"

Okay - I think I ran the 'Clone Army' meme enough for one night. I hope all of our friends can shake hands and remember that the real enemy is down range, not in the foxhole nearby. And I mean that in the sense of 'John Boehner is pretty bad, but Nancy Pelosi is worse'.

So to all of my fellow clone troopers out there I will see you at the reunion of the 3927th Orbital Assault Brigade at the Grand Hyatt in the southern hemispherical eastern quadrilateral district of Coruscant. And Remember our battle cry:

"First Blood! He's Buying!"

*point at each other and then run like heck from the bar*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:40 PM (gmoEG)

875 What if the 2012 election were held today? Mitt Romney apparently would be president, according to a new poll.

Romney would lead Obama, 49% to 45%, among registered voters in an ABC News/Washington Post poll released Tuesday. The findings are within the poll's margin of error, but pollster Gary Langer notes that Obama's support among registered voters now is actually 6 points lower than his showing in the 2012 election.

Posted by: Vice President Ryan at November 20, 2013 09:40 PM (e8kgV)

876 191 Were you not once a fetus? School me, please. Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 20, 2013 10:14 PM (4Mv1T) I sprung forth fully grown from my father's headÂ…

Posted by: Athena at November 20, 2013 09:41 PM (Vk2pI)

877 As a Conservative-Minded Libertarian, may I allow some of my Completely Politically-Minded points-of-view to come to mind?

...I'll thank the horde in advance.

As a Libertarian, my viewpoint on abortion becomes secondary to mt fiscal policy. In a Presidential race, it simply isn't an issue.

...States' Rights trump anything I may believe. Constitutionally.

Unless there are those who would expect me to act like regulatory nightmares that came before them, I'd simply mention that my stance on regulatory offices, (like HHS), is to eliminate them.

I'd be the only nominee in favor of diminishing my own power.

This becomes more of an issue when running for a State position, therefore acknowledging my anti-abortion stance. "A clump of cells", in my opinion, does not become a giraffe. It also doesn't become a cloud, idea, or hammer. ...Pregnancy Leads to Humans.

While running for office in a State Legislature or for Governor, this has more impact than it does at the National Level. The dichotomy becomes irrelevant at the National Level, lest the Supreme Court nominations.

...aaahhhh. That's what it is all about, isn't it? The "Progressive" mindset? "He'll Go All-Jesus and Shit!!!111".

Conveniently Forgetting Checks and Balances is what the "Progressive" movement is all about. They'll leave that out of every news story, press release and campaign slogan.

When one campaigns on abdicating power and closing down Government Control? It Is A Winner.

-Every Day.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 20, 2013 09:42 PM (lq3Ak)

878 What Other Sexual Lifestyle Will Obamacare Ads Cater Too Next?

Obamacare ads are now advertising to not only to the perpetual man-child, but to skanks. It begs the question: What sexual lifestyle will Obamacare cater to next?

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=4009

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 21, 2013 01:34 AM (Vk2pI)

Dude, we flogged the hide off of that nag days ago.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:42 PM (gmoEG)

879 Or the down syndrome baby that you force the single mother with 2 kids to keep...you'll come over every evening and help take care of the kid right? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:19 PM (dfLY4) As someone who has a sister with Downs syndrome, I can't even come up with the words to described how disgusted I am with that statement.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 20, 2013 09:43 PM (Vk2pI)

880 Oh rip the welfare edifice down? OK should we do that tomorrow or Monday? It's so easy after, shouldn't take more than a couple of hours. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 11:08 PM (dfLY4) Don't worry, I'll take care of that for youÂ…

Posted by: The Looming Apocalypse at November 20, 2013 09:45 PM (Vk2pI)

881 It sucks, the thing about Winamp. It used to be my go-to mp3 player for years. I downloaded GOM Audio the other day, and it seems to be pretty decent -- though I haven't used it enough to get familiar with it, so I don't know how it'll compare to Winamp after the learning curve. http://audio.gomlab.com/eng/ Their media player is the video equivalent of Winamp for me. Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 12:40 AM (m0h0I) I've been using the J River Media Jukebox for over a decade, and been very happy with it: http://www.jriver.com/mj/

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 20, 2013 09:48 PM (Vk2pI)

882

Well after 885 posts about BULLSHIT I'd just like to point out that Taco Bell's new Triple Stack steak sandwich is freakin' AMAZING.

Little pricy, but DEE-lish-

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 09:52 PM (b7yum)

883 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 21, 2013 01:17 AM (BXhlo)

And if you are ever in Michigan we need to get together and talk warships.

I'll by the first two rounds.

(drinks not salvos)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:53 PM (gmoEG)

884 #879

But how is that possible when Romney is pro-life? Aren't there like a billion people who'd automatically vote against him and his war on women?

Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2013 09:55 PM (bPxS6)

885 Playdek did a good job in bringing Lords of Waterdeep to the iPad

Posted by: The Dude at November 20, 2013 09:56 PM (vJdyz)

886 Very nice. That ST100 was a beauty. I appreciate the pointer. I saw an Ibanez in the same body style on a local barter/trade Facebook page last night, but there was no information about it other than a picture and the word Ibanez. It was the same body style as the ST100, but I suppose it could be a complete piece of crap beyond that.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 01:23 AM

Yeah, the Ibanez studio is a kickass guitar. Ibanez made really good Gibson copies back then. They really are impressive for the $$$. Like Squier they suffered from being "poor man's Gibsons" back then and weren't all that cheap, really, when you could get the real thing. But, with the skyrocketing price of real ones these days, the Ibanez is a bloody steal and kind of classic in it's own right. Mind you, people are catching on and it won't be too long before Ibanez and Squier guitars get crazy in price, I suspect. You can't really go wrong with a 70's Ibanez Gibson copy. If that Facebook Ibanez is really an ST, I'd look at it, if i was you. Find out what it is exactly and how much they want for it. Guitar shops should have examples also. But, they probably are hip to it all. Private purchase would be a better buy.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 09:56 PM (9gNQd)

887 Well after 885 posts about BULLSHIT I'd just like to point out that Taco Bell's new Triple Stack steak sandwich is freakin' AMAZING.
Little pricy, but DEE-lish-

Posted by: DAve at November 21, 2013 01:52 AM (b7yum)

You're new here? Welcome to AoSHQ; yes I'm a clone trooper just like all of the other clone troopers, but I'm the nice one that is actually peaceful and not faking it like all of the rest...whoops! Gotta go!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 09:57 PM (gmoEG)

888 #881

That brings up the point some legal scholars have made about Roe v. Wade being a wretchedly bad decision. Not because of any position for or against abortion but because it assumed powers for the federal government it should not possess.

A lot of strident abortion supporters seem to believe that abortion was totally outlawed in the US before Roe. Not true. It was available in five states.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2013 09:59 PM (bPxS6)

889 Looks like the PS4 is getting "porn support" Ads at link are NSFW http://tinyurl.com/mwljpfu

Posted by: The Big H at November 20, 2013 10:01 PM (Vk2pI)

890 869 Posted by: Purp at November 21, 2013 01:26 AM (Xlbr

Not a recent issue -- check the Code of Hammurabi --

"Code of Hammurabi 218:
If a physician make a large incision with the operating knife, and kill him, or open a tumor with the operating knife, and cut out the eye, his hands shall be cut off."

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 10:01 PM (T1005)

891 Sooo, we having a guitar buying expedition discussion?

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 10:04 PM (FMbng)

892 Sooo, we having a guitar buying expedition discussion?

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 21, 2013 02:04 AM

DDR picked up a Dean + amp for $200. I know jack shit about Deans. Have a look at it.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 10:09 PM (9gNQd)

893 @ 890 [otho] -- Looks like people are already hip to them on eBay, for sure.

Here's a photo of the guitar I was talking about:

http://tinypic.com/r/5bei3m/5

No price, nothing but a phone number to call for more details. That actually pissed me off enough at first to make me not want to call. If you're trying to sell something, you don't make people chase you down just to find out what it is and what you want for it, right?

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 10:11 PM (m0h0I)

894

Hey, Berserker (and any other guitar-playing geeks out there) -- I picked this up today:

http://is.gd/xmq0CK

I'm hoping to trade up a little after I get some strings and a setup done on it (unless, of course, I fall in love with it -- though, it's not really my style of guitar these days). What do you suppose would be something within swapping range in a more traditional Les Paul, Strat or Tele style in a private-party swap, as opposed to a guitar shop?

There's some pretty minor nicks in the clear-coat, but otherwise, it seems to be in pretty solid shape. It's a Dean Dime From Hell Baby, I think.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 12:15 AM

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 10:11 PM (9gNQd)

895 Sooo, we having a guitar buying expedition discussion?

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 21, 2013 02:04 AM (FMbng)

And discussing the drawbacks of being in a clone army, and warships, and other depressing sort of highly personal topics. Just the sort of things we can all laugh about while savaging each other over. You know - Wednesday night.

Problems with being in a clone army:

Someone got cut off at the enlisted club bar...but who?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 10:13 PM (gmoEG)

896 587 A story on abortion. When I was a young man I got a girl pregnant. We discussed abortion as an option but got married instead. After my first daughter was born and I held her for the first time I have forever been horrified that that one choice would have wiped out a life that I would willingly die for today. Posted by: The Hickster at November 20, 2013 11:30 PM (DUGve) Wife not girlfriend, but ditto. Ditto to the 1 millionth.

Posted by: Bizarro Oprah at November 20, 2013 10:14 PM (N/cFh)

897 Looks like I pissed someone off on Twitter when I tweeted: "Since "Maya Angelou" is trending, it is important to remember that she is a hack and her "poetry" is drivel. #nbawards" LOL

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at November 20, 2013 10:15 PM (Vk2pI)

898 Way late to the par-TAY, but God bless the Doolittle Raiders!

Oh, and the Japs actually butchered a quarter-million Chinese civilians, NOT as part of "looking for" the Raiders, but in reprisal for the Chinese people's helping our men escape from mainland China, which was of course occupied by Imperial Japan at the time. . . . Just one of a legion of hideous war crimes by the Japs that no one seems to know about any more. Just lined them up and shot them, for days on end.

Posted by: Beverly at November 20, 2013 10:15 PM (m2QO2)

899 Ooops, that was me. Off sock. I dunno how bizzaro Oprah would feel about murdering children, prolly be against it.

Posted by: Weirddave at November 20, 2013 10:16 PM (N/cFh)

900 @ 895 [Berserker] -- Ah, there you are!

Here's what I picked up today (a Dean Dime From Hell Baby, I gather) in hopes of using it for swap-bait for something a little more, eh, traditional -- LP, Strat, or Tele body style.

http://is.gd/xmq0CK

I was wondering what you think I might be able to get out of it in a good private trade, rather than at a guitar shop. It's in pretty good shape -- just a few minor dings in the clear-coat. It could use a setup and some new strings, but otherwise, it seems pretty good.

What do you think?

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 10:16 PM (m0h0I)

901 883 Or the down syndrome baby that you force the single mother with 2 kids to keep...you'll come over every evening and help take care of the kid right?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 10:19 PM (dfLY4)

As someone who has a sister with Downs syndrome, I can't even come up with the words to described how disgusted I am with that statement.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 21, 2013 01:43 AM (Vk2pI)

I haven't really had all that much contact with folks who have Down's syndrome -- being, frankly, kind of a hermit.....and, then, associating with accounting-types who tend more toward OCD and various flavors of autism -- but those that I have met have struck me as genuinely lovely people.

And those are three very special words. They are genuine. They are lovely. And they are people. They don't spend all their time trying to scheme, pander, misdirect, and portray [although they do!] -- they mostly just are; while I concede there may be sour and spiteful people with Down's syndrome, the ones that I have met have been cheerful, hopeful, friendly, and social [more social than I am]; and -- perhaps most important -- they're people and not exotic zoo animals. If you sit down and chat, you'll find that there is the same process there is with everyone -- you'll discuss college anthropology courses and she'll try not to yawn, she'll discuss football rankings and you'll try to nod appropriately, and then you'll hit on the relative merits of crossbows v. longbows and you'll both be passionately arguing until they turn the lights out.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 10:21 PM (T1005)

902

Looks like people are already hip to them on eBay, for sure.

Here's a photo of the guitar I was talking about:

http://tinypic.com/r/5bei3m/5

No price, nothing but a phone number to call for more details. That actually pissed me off enough at first to make me not want to call. If you're trying to sell something, you don't make people chase you down just to find out what it is and what you want for it, right?

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 02:11 AM

Hmmmm... yeah. It's not an ST, I don't think. It looks like one of their regular lines. Can't tell you exactly what it is, offhand. It looks well used and if it's 70's very early 80's it might go alright. No info is sometimes a good sign, in that the owner doesn't know what he's got. You could get one like this for a couple of $100 in those cases. But if there's no price... dunno. A bit iffy, yes. Sounds like he might want an offer. But hey, you could could always say "I'll give you $100. It's in poor shape and not a top line model."

He can only say no.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 10:21 PM (9gNQd)

903 890 Very nice. That ST100 was a beauty. I appreciate the pointer. I saw an Ibanez in the same body style on a local barter/trade Facebook page last night, but there was no information about it other than a picture and the word Ibanez. It was the same body style as the ST100, but I suppose it could be a complete piece of crap beyond that.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 01:23 AM

Yeah, the Ibanez studio is a kickass guitar. Ibanez made really good Gibson copies back then. They really are impressive for the $$$. Like Squier they suffered from being "poor man's Gibsons" back then and weren't all that cheap, really, when you could get the real thing. But, with the skyrocketing price of real ones these days, the Ibanez is a bloody steal and kind of classic in it's own right. Mind you, people are catching on and it won't be too long before Ibanez and Squier guitars get crazy in price, I suspect. You can't really go wrong with a 70's Ibanez Gibson copy. If that Facebook Ibanez is really an ST, I'd look at it, if i was you. Find out what it is exactly and how much they want for it. Guitar shops should have examples also. But, they probably are hip to it all. Private purchase would be a better buy.

Posted by: otho at November 21, 2013 01:56 AM (9gNQd)

I have a small collection of Ibanez Musician guitars and basses. I don't do 'em credit, but they are sweet, sweet, sweet.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 10:22 PM (T1005)

904 BTW, the Clark County GOP Central Committee (home of Las Vegas and 70% of Nevada's population), declined to endorse the nuking of IranÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at November 20, 2013 10:23 PM (Vk2pI)

905 892 #881

That brings up the point some legal scholars have made about Roe v. Wade being a wretchedly bad decision. Not because of any position for or against abortion but because it assumed powers for the federal government it should not possess.

A lot of strident abortion supporters seem to believe that abortion was totally outlawed in the US before Roe. Not true. It was available in five states.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 21, 2013 01:59 AM (bPxS6)

Roe v. Wade was a suckwad decision, and you can easily determine that by noting that it's 40 years later and people still can't figure what the fuck they meant by it.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 10:25 PM (T1005)

906 @ 906/907 [otho/cthulhu] -- I remember wanting an Ibanez Destroyer badly when I was a teenager. And before that, as a KISS Army brat, I wanted Paul Stanley's Iceman.

But, now that my musical tastes have grown more varied, I'd like something a bit more versatile.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 10:27 PM (m0h0I)

907 900 587 A story on abortion. When I was a young man I got a girl pregnant. We discussed abortion as an option but got married instead. After my first daughter was born and I held her for the first time I have forever been horrified that that one choice would have wiped out a life that I would willingly die for today.

Posted by: The Hickster at November 20, 2013 11:30 PM (DUGve)

Wife not girlfriend, but ditto. Ditto to the 1 millionth.

Posted by: Bizarro Oprah at November 21, 2013 02:14 AM (N/cFh)

It is heartwarming to have a story with a happy ending like that one.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 10:27 PM (T1005)

908 Also, Sen. Tim Scott has declined to endorse Lindsey Graham for re-electionÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at November 20, 2013 10:28 PM (Vk2pI)

909 901 Looks like I pissed someone off on Twitter when I tweeted:

"Since "Maya Angelou" is trending, it is important to remember that she is a hack and her "poetry" is drivel. #nbawards"

LOL

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at November 21, 2013 02:15 AM (Vk2pI)

Heh. I had an open mind until I read a couple of her poems....then it was, "Affirmative Action Hire".

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 10:29 PM (T1005)

910 903 Ooops, that was me. Off sock. I dunno how bizzaro Oprah would feel about murdering children, prolly be against it.

Posted by: Weirddave at November 21, 2013 02:16 AM (N/cFh)

Wouldn't bet on it -- she's hangin' with the proggies.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 10:30 PM (T1005)

911 TW, the Clark County GOP Central Committee (home of Las Vegas and 70% of Nevada's population), declined to endorse the nuking of IranÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at November 21, 2013 02:23 AM (Vk2pI)

And in 1984 Ann Arbor, Michigan joined the nuclear freeze by prohibiting nuclear weapons from the city. And that meant less than the paper the resolution was printed on.

By the way - who in the hell gives a flaming fuck what a municipality or a political party in a municipality says or does? Since when does a county political party have any say in US foreign policy? Christ on a crutch - we have enough problems with the clowns already in DC the last we need are the clowns in Clark County, Nevada piling on!

Again - Who Gives A Fuck? Political Hat, please answer that one.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 10:33 PM (gmoEG)

912 915 posts, a lot of abortion stuff, but not a single "pot" that doesn't end in a letter other than "t". F this, I'm going to go play keyboards for awhile.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 20, 2013 10:35 PM (OY9lA)

913 By the way - who in the hell gives a flaming fuck what a municipality or a political party in a municipality says or does? Since when does a county political party have any say in US foreign policy? Christ on a crutch - we have enough problems with the clowns already in DC the last we need are the clowns in Clark County, Nevada piling on! Again - Who Gives A Fuck? Political Hat, please answer that one. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 21, 2013 02:33 AM (gmoEG) The resolution was to endorse the sentiments of Sheldon Addelson, they guy who bankrolled Newt and is going to be a player when it comes to taking out Harry Reid.

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at November 20, 2013 10:37 PM (Vk2pI)

914 I am Pro-Life to the core, but it is, (and has always been), --["F" Roe v. Wade!] -- a State's Rights Decision.

The Federal Government should have no more control over your income. Period.

They should neither subsidize, nor extricate your income.

-that privelege should be the Sole Possession of the States. As determined by their State Legislature's rules vs. the Governor.

...repeal the Seventeenth Amendment, while I'm "at it".

I've gotten more done in two hours than the Government Union does all day!

G.I. Joe!

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 20, 2013 10:38 PM (lq3Ak)

915 I remember wanting an Ibanez Destroyer badly when I was a teenager. And before that, as a KISS Army brat, I wanted Paul Stanley's Iceman.

But, now that my musical tastes have grown more varied, I'd like something a bit more versatile.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 02:27 AM

Hahaha. I remember those. I knew guys that had them. They weren't much chop. Not for the price, anyway. Don't know what they're worth these days, but the "standard" Ibanez models were a much better buy back then.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 10:38 PM (9gNQd)

916 How to cook a really good NY roast ---

First, throw away your old meat thermometer cuz it is too damn small to read. Pay for a new larger one that seems pretty good. Buy the most expensive one in a Fred Meyer -- don't go to a store where an actual chef would go cuz that's too much trouble.

Second, wait several months. Then happen across a NY Roast in the 'getting pretty old' section at the meat department of a Fred Meyer. Buy it cuz the price looks too good to pass up.

Third, when you get home, follow the directions on the package, except the friggin' thermometer indicates that the roast is cooking way too fast. Remember that you just cooked a turkey about a week ago and it was done about an hour early.

Cut the roast open near the end and find out that the middle is still pretty damn raw. Say shitty things about the thermometer and put the roast back in the oven. Reset the timer to some wild friggin' guess cuz you screwed up any chance to stay on the recipe.

Realize that you are running late for a gig, so check the roast. Cut off the end that you looked at before and eat the part that is actually cooked. Note that the damn thermometer says that the roast is actually done. Look at the newly exposed part and decide to throw the thermometer away later.

Set the oven timer for 15 minutes and leave for the gig. Plan on phoning home to get someone to take the damn roast out of the oven before it turns into shoe leather.

Get to the gig and get distracted and forget to phone home.

Come home 3.5 hours later and take the roast out of the oven. Slice and eat a piece. Damn good roast.

So, there you have it. Easy to follow recipe and gets good results.

Posted by: jc at November 20, 2013 10:38 PM (PlzOe)

917 I have a small collection of Ibanez Musician guitars and basses. I don't do 'em credit, but they are sweet, sweet, sweet.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 21, 2013 02:22 AM

There you go. Sounds like C-man has a better handle on Ibanez than my fading memory. What do you think, Cthulhu?

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 10:41 PM (9gNQd)

918 [Berserker] -- Ah, there you are!

Here's what I picked up today (a Dean Dime From Hell Baby, I gather) in hopes of using it for swap-bait for something a little more, eh, traditional -- LP, Strat, or Tele body style.

http://is.gd/xmq0CK

I was wondering what you think I might be able to get out of it in a good private trade, rather than at a guitar shop. It's in pretty good shape -- just a few minor dings in the clear-coat. It could use a setup and some new strings, but otherwise, it seems pretty good.

What do you think?

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 02:16 AM (m0h0I)

Well, I noticed that one is a bolt on neck. There ARE set neck models with bound necks that are $6-700 new. I can only assume the bolt on neck version is cheaper still. Its hard to say because the world is just flooded with cheaper guitars, and in this market the resale can be low.

Ironically, I JUST brought a Dean home last night, its a Dean Inferno flying V. It was at the store I hang out in, and it came in on a trade, so being a diehard V dude I had to have it. Using THAT dean as an example, it was $325 used, Korean made, set neck, elaborate flame inlays on a bound fingerboard, hardshell case, and mahogany neck and body. I have no clue how much cheaper it would be if it was a bolt on neck. Maybe $200? I don't know. Where it was made would have a lot to do with it. A lot of times I see bolt on neck versions of a set neck guitar being made in a different country. It wouldn't surprise me to see a set neck made in korea, and a bolt on version being made in china, or indonesia. There IS a guitar like yours on Ebay right now thats $125, no bids, and 2 days left, so you probably paid right in the ball park.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 10:42 PM (FMbng)

919 Oh hell. Kanye West and Kim Kardashian have released their new video for his latest "song". It's so bad that there needs to be a new category for bad. Truly, awfully, frighteningly bad. As someone on Twitter said, That's not Rap. That's a cacophony of bullshit and daddy issues. You have to watch it to appreciate it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_6I089_mrE

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2013 10:42 PM (DmNpO)

920 Night all. Here is "Into The Lungs Of Hell / Set The World Afire" from Megadeth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbsxeybPZ38

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 20, 2013 10:43 PM (Vk2pI)

921 Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at November 21, 2013 02:37 AM (Vk2pI)

Again - who gives a fuck about what a local political party does? I have been in local political parties and the positions they take have more to say about the infighting in that party and the personalities in that party than anything more profound - certainly nothing on an international level.

Look - you have been pushing your website here in the comments for the past few months - I got it. I also have been pushing the 'Outrage Outlet' for the last month or so. But I know the 'Outrage Outlet' is actually a joke.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 10:43 PM (gmoEG)

922 Again - who gives a fuck about what a local political party does? I have been in local political parties and the positions they take have more to say about the infighting in that party and the personalities in that party than anything more profound - certainly nothing on an international level. Just thought it was interesting to mention. And yes, resolutions tend to just be that. Look - you have been pushing your website here in the comments for the past few months - I got it. I also have been pushing the 'Outrage Outlet' for the last month or so. But I know the 'Outrage Outlet' is actually a joke. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 21, 2013 02:43 AM (gmoEG) Relax. I rant a bit and otherwise provide some light snark. That "nuke Iran" thing was silly, but thought that others might find it ridiculous as well.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 20, 2013 10:48 PM (Vk2pI)

923 921 I have a small collection of Ibanez Musician guitars and basses. I don't do 'em credit, but they are sweet, sweet, sweet.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 21, 2013 02:22 AM

There you go. Sounds like C-man has a better handle on Ibanez than my fading memory. What do you think, Cthulhu?

Posted by: otho at November 21, 2013 02:41 AM (9gNQd)

I can't speak for anything generally, but the late-70's/early-80's Musicians were very nice -- stuff like http://tinyurl.com/mvdtal6 or http://tinyurl.com/mzzucr5

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 10:52 PM (T1005)

924

922 His Dean is a 3/4 size. He paid fair market if not a little high

I used to work at an Ibanez dealer. Comparing '70's or 80's Ibanez's to a Squier is REDICULOUS. The Ibanez's are for the most part great workingman's guitars. And cheap.

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 10:54 PM (b7yum)

925 #923

I saw that on Drudge. Maybe I'm just old but that just strikes me as utter crap. It isn't good enough to be offensive, for all of the cliche obnoxious language, it is just boring. A far worse sin in something that purports to be entertainment.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 20, 2013 10:54 PM (bPxS6)

926 Bob Weir used to play an Ibanez

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 10:55 PM (b7yum)

927 @ 922 [Berserker] -- Thanks, man. Mine is definitely a bolt-on neck. I figured I didn't get taken, so I'm not in any great big hurry to get rid of it. But, if I can find someone young who just doesn't like the guitar they have because it's too bland, and is a big Dimebag fan, I figure I can get decent trade value for it. I figure a good setup will add a little swap value if the person tries it out and likes the way it feels.

And, if nothing else, I can hot rod the thing with new pickups, maybe a tremolo system and use it to entice someone into making me a really good trade offer on it.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 10:56 PM (m0h0I)

928 Yep. http://tinyurl.com/n5eebp8

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 10:57 PM (b7yum)

929 Relax. I rant a bit and otherwise provide some light snark. That "nuke Iran" thing was silly, but thought that others might find it ridiculous as well.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 21, 2013 02:48 AM (Vk2pI)

Ah well; it is late. Time to make peace and go. If I missed the obvious silliness - if I missed silliness! - then it is time for me to...

Holy *6#2! It's 3 am!?!

Ummmm...Political Hat - mucho sorry - I see why I missed silliness because I am about Four Hours Way Past My Bedtime Holy Hoppin' Hannah I Got To Get Up In Four Hours!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 20, 2013 10:57 PM (gmoEG)

930 926 Again - who gives a fuck about what a local political party does? I have been in local political parties and the positions they take have more to say about the infighting in that party and the personalities in that party than anything more profound - certainly nothing on an international level.

Just thought it was interesting to mention. And yes, resolutions tend to just be that.

Look - you have been pushing your website here in the comments for the past few months - I got it. I also have been pushing the 'Outrage Outlet' for the last month or so. But I know the 'Outrage Outlet' is actually a joke.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 21, 2013 02:43 AM (gmoEG)

Relax. I rant a bit and otherwise provide some light snark. That "nuke Iran" thing was silly, but thought that others might find it ridiculous as well.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 21, 2013 02:48 AM (Vk2pI)

Just as an FYI -- you were crossposting a bit much back-a-ways, and got waved off by the cobs....but, since then, I have found that your posted teasers were nicely done and contributed to the community. I've even chased a few of them into your blog. I have no complaints with your current level of blog-reference.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 10:58 PM (T1005)

931 I have an Ibanez double-neck so nyaaah

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 10:58 PM (b7yum)

932 Ummmm...Political Hat - mucho sorry - I see why I missed silliness because I am about Four Hours Way Past My Bedtime Holy Hoppin' Hannah I Got To Get Up In Four Hours! Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at November 21, 2013 02:57 AM (gmoEG) This entire ONT has gotten too silly!

Posted by: Graham Chapment dressed as a British General at November 20, 2013 10:59 PM (Vk2pI)

933 I don't have to go back to work until Dec 2.

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 11:01 PM (b7yum)

934 935 I have an Ibanez double-neck so nyaaah

Posted by: DAve at November 21, 2013 02:58 AM (b7yum)

Double-neck what? And what vintage?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 11:01 PM (T1005)

935 Happy-ish Thursday morning ...

Posted by: Adriane... at November 20, 2013 11:02 PM (jdRXP)

936 938 6-12. Seventies baby. $400 in like 1983

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 11:02 PM (b7yum)

937 Jes like THIS: http://tinyurl.com/l7fcl9f

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 11:04 PM (b7yum)

938 http://tinyurl.com/l7fcl9f kewl. A guitar for Siamese Twins ...

Posted by: Adriane... at November 20, 2013 11:06 PM (jdRXP)

939 Looking at Bing images I can see that Ibanez has made alot of GREAT guitars...

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 11:06 PM (b7yum)

940 His Dean is a 3/4 size. He paid fair market if not a little high
I used to work at an Ibanez dealer. Comparing '70's or 80's Ibanez's to a Squier is REDICULOUS. The Ibanez's are for the most part great workingman's guitars. And cheap.

Posted by: DAve at November 21, 2013 02:54 AM (b7yum)

He got the guitar and an amp for $200? There is one like his on ebay that the neck just has to be put back on and its $59, so yeah, could be a tad high. I have to agree about the Ibanez/squire thing. Squires are garbage, there I said it. I have a few 70's Ibanez guitars and they are miles ahead of a squire. Having said that, there is an era of squires that aren't "that" bad. You have to watch though, some have thinner bodies, some have plywood bodies, and some have full thickness solid wood bodies. I don't know exactly when the better era was, I can only assume they would be older ones.

As far as recent Ibanez guitars go, there are some really nice ones that are more recent and are amazing for the money. They don't sell for too much because in general they made so damn many. A friend just bought some wicked single humbucker jap made Ibanez with the locking tremolo, wizard III neck, and full thickness bound body for $500. They are really good bargains where the dollar to performance ratio goes.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:06 PM (FMbng)

941 This is an anti-abortion song, right?

What You Gonna Do, Samantha?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtDJgsyKy
cY

..."BUT where in the world does 'tomorrow' lie for the tiny heart that's be-e-ating. -inside--?"

Luh-uh-uve, Luh-uh-uve, Love's power! SO tiny, you could drown in a tear.

I loved this tune in '84 and no one had heard of it.

...you don't hear shit like this on the radio, unless it is condoned "appropriate" by The Powers That Be in "the media".

Maybe it is "sub-culture" enough to be "cool"?

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 20, 2013 11:07 PM (lq3Ak)

942 940 938 6-12. Seventies baby. $400 in like 1983

Posted by: DAve at November 21, 2013 03:02 AM (b7yum)

Nice! Not necessarily something you'd gig often unless you have a chiropractor as a blood relative....but it'd be absolutely great for doing "Stairway".

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 11:08 PM (T1005)

943 Does anyone other than Rick Nielsen have a five-neck Hamer?

http://is.gd/ROWJcc

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 11:08 PM (m0h0I)

944 939 Happy-ish Thursday morning ...

Posted by: Adriane... at November 21, 2013 03:02 AM (jdRXP)

====

Hey, Adriane

Posted by: jc at November 20, 2013 11:09 PM (PlzOe)

945

Posted by: cthulhu at November 21, 2013 02:52 AM

Ooooooh yeah. 1970's Ibanez were pretty rocking, in general. Impressive, even for their day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMGVl6CMBp4

I had one of these babies. Loved the fucking thing. Wish I still had it. Sold it to a mate for $150 back in the 70's. Ibanez recording bass. Early 70's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EmBh1dxAek

DDR, if you EVER come across the Ibanez studio guitar (Les Paul version), for a decent price, GRAB IT. Trouble is they're hard to find. The ST will be more affordable.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 11:10 PM (9gNQd)

946 And, if nothing else, I can hot rod the thing with new pickups, maybe a tremolo system and use it to entice someone into making me a really good trade offer on it.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 02:56 AM (m0h0I)

I don't know if I would do that. You may get your ass handed to you if you spend "wrong" money on it.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:10 PM (FMbng)

947 Hey, jc ... How goes the getting ready for the holidays?

Posted by: Adriane... at November 20, 2013 11:11 PM (jdRXP)

948

946 I used to gig mine by setting up the 12 neck with only 6 strings with drop "D" tuning for the chorus's and the regular 6 for the leads.

I was a busy bee on those songs

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 11:12 PM (b7yum)

949 Slapweasel at November 21, 2013 03:07 AM (lq3Ak) Samantha rises and puts her school clothes on ... I've heard it. Yeah, I'm old.

Posted by: Adriane... at November 20, 2013 11:13 PM (jdRXP)

950 950 THISX1000 I would NEVER hotrod a 3/4 guitar unless you need reality to teach you an expensive lesson

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 11:13 PM (b7yum)

951 Does anyone other than Rick Nielsen have a five-neck Hamer?

http://is.gd/ROWJcc

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 03:08 AM (m0h0I)

I know the master builder at Hamer, or what was Hamer. I could have one made for you. Although you would probably need stitches in your ass after you got done paying for it. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:14 PM (FMbng)

952 I used to own one of these. Good bass, and definitely a good bass for the bux. I'm not very impressed with hamer's later basses, just these.

http://tinyurl.com/o9btn5v

Posted by: jc at November 20, 2013 11:14 PM (PlzOe)

953 That's an Ibanez "Recording" Les Paul (studio) guitar.

Posted by: otho at November 20, 2013 11:16 PM (9gNQd)

954 951 Hey, jc ...

How goes the getting ready for the holidays?

Posted by: Adriane... at November 21, 2013 03:11 AM (jdRXP)

===

I'm learning new recipes. See 920.

Posted by: jc at November 20, 2013 11:16 PM (PlzOe)

955 Relax. I rant a bit and otherwise provide some light snark. That "nuke Iran" thing was silly, but thought that others might find it ridiculous as well. Posted by: The Political Hat I'll vouch for L'Hat's un-outrage. He doesn't do that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 11:17 PM (KVY+w)

956 Bravo Maetenloch, an exceptional ONT

Posted by: 100% free range, non-gmo organic hate at November 20, 2013 11:19 PM (+Ps3k)

957 "Samantha rises and puts her school clothes on ...

I've heard it.

Yeah, I'm old."

Posted by: Adriane... at November 21, 2013 03:13 AM (jdRXP)

Then you are from the Michigan/Ohio area. That's the only place these guys were played.

...You've also called me "old" by proxy..

After being on the roof for six hours?

...I'll be fine after this Budweiser. For all I be? ...this Bud's for me.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 20, 2013 11:19 PM (lq3Ak)

958 @ 949 [otho] -- You can count on it. I'll keep an eye out for any 70's vintage Ibanez.

@ [Berserker] -- I won't get my ass handed to me on it, believe me. There's always some kid who has a perfectly nice guitar, but hates the way it looks enough to swap it for a hot-rodded cheap guitar that looks cool. And, if worse comes to worse, I'll just have a cool-looking, hot-rodded guitar to play when the notion strikes -- until someone makes me an offer I can't refuse.

I actually wouldn't mind getting a really beaten-up, but serviceable guitar to make a refinishing project out of. So, really, I'm in this more for fun than profit. But, I just figured as cheap as the Dean is, it'll make good swap-bait, and I can always trade up incrementally. Just takes a little patience.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 11:20 PM (m0h0I)

959 Slapweasel at November 21, 2013 03:19 AM (lq3Ak) sorry. Heard it on the radio ... Jacksonville, FL. for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puM1k-S86nE

Posted by: Adriane... at November 20, 2013 11:24 PM (jdRXP)

960 Wow... "The Drifters".

I grew up on Motown.

Thanks!

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 20, 2013 11:26 PM (lq3Ak)

961 I can see guitar players are a lot like photographers, and I'm anathema to both of them. I've bought two DSLR's from people who've taken UTMOST care of them, keeping the original packaging -- right down to the packing materials used, pristine manuals, body caps, everything. And, as soon as I buy them, the packaging goes to the curb, the manual gets slept on and torn, and the body cap gets lost within weeks. But, I use the hell out of the camera and have no intention of ever selling it at any point in the future.

I'm the same way with guitars. It simply does me no good to handle them like newborn children. They're going to get scraped, and they're going to get dinged, and they're going to get crap spilled on them and kicked over. That's why I buy them used -- same as I did with my last two camera bodies, both of which still work just fine.

Now, if I ever get enough mad money to go out and buy a brand new Les Paul or American Telecaster, it'll be a different story. But, I don't see that ever happening. So, I might as well get cheap ones and have as much fun with them as I can rather than worrying about taking a bath on the resale value.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 11:29 PM (m0h0I)

962 I saw that on Drudge. Maybe I'm just old but that just strikes me as utter crap. It isn't good enough to be offensive, for all of the cliche obnoxious language, it is just boring. A far worse sin in something that purports to be entertainment. *** I watched it, went to twitter and tweeted a few times. Then, I thought about the cheesetastic wild horses and nearly busted a gut laughing at it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2013 11:32 PM (DmNpO)

963 Hell, the last brand new guitar I ever bought lasted two weeks before it fell out of my unzipped gig bag and fell on its headstock. It was a $200 guitar that played like a much more expensive one. So, I Gorilla Glued the neck, and now I've ordered a piezo pickup to install in it so I can play it through my cheap-ass amp.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 11:34 PM (m0h0I)

964 I stupid love this song Love of mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfNVfiqKBeM

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2013 11:36 PM (KVY+w)

965

Slapweasel at November 21, 2013 03:19 AM (lq3Ak)

sorry. Heard it on the radio ...

Jacksonville, FL.

Posted by: Adriane... at November 21, 2013 03:24 AM (jdRXP)

Adriane, thanks, I couldn't recall being in the Michigan/Ohio area, but Jacksonville, I can understand.

was worried there for a few minutes.

Posted by: dDan at November 20, 2013 11:37 PM (hwYmz)

966 no one brought up the greatness known as charvel? Ugggh You heathens

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2013 11:38 PM (fmjNz)

967 I play a Brian Moore iGuitar, but lately it's all keys for me. Just learned B.O.C.'s "Stairway to the Stars" -- a combo of Buck and Eric's guitar parts. I can't actually play the "piano section" parts.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 20, 2013 11:40 PM (OY9lA)

968 I always wanted an ibanez I've played some at the store and you can do some serious speed work on their necks

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2013 11:41 PM (fmjNz)

969 I think we are DOOMED! ... no, duh!!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 20, 2013 11:42 PM (RqHWH)

970 @ 970 [Navycopjoe] -- An old friend of mine has a Charvel -- or at least he had one. He also used to pawn it pretty regularly when he ran out of weed and money.

It's a really nice guitar, for sure. But it can't be much fun while it's sitting in a pawn shop.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 11:42 PM (m0h0I)

971 I'm the same way with guitars. It simply does me no good to handle them like newborn children. They're going to get scraped, and they're going to get dinged, and they're going to get crap spilled on them and kicked over. That's why I buy them used -- same as I did with my last two camera bodies, both of which still work just fine.

Now, if I ever get enough mad money to go out and buy a brand new Les Paul or American Telecaster, it'll be a different story. But, I don't see that ever happening. So, I might as well get cheap ones and have as much fun with them as I can rather than worrying about taking a bath on the resale value.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 03:29 AM (m0h0I)

There is some truth in that. I have 3 levels of guitars. My vintage/collectables, my gig guitars, and my beaters. I have more fun with the beaters these days than I had in a long time, because I just don't have to worry about them. The gig guitars are good ones, but they are sacrificial lamb/road dogs, but like the collectables I keep them in a more climate controlled environment, especially in the winter when the forced air heat dries the shit out of everything. The beaters I keep in a rack by the computer and the hell with the climate. Usually with the good ones I would have to rotate them so none stayed in the dry air for any length of time. The past few years I started looking for really good playing and sounding cheapies that can just sit here, plus it don't bother me if I accidentally whack the desk them.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:42 PM (FMbng)

972 Um....whack the desk WITH them.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:43 PM (FMbng)

973 For our guitar gods here Try that video game thingy rock something My kid got it and it's kicking her ass The higher the difficulty the cleaner and more accurate you have to be

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2013 11:43 PM (fmjNz)

974 http://s22.photobucket.com/user/Slapweasel/media/SDC10026.jpg.html?sort=3&o=11

I decorate my house with nearly ten-thousand lights every year. For the past ten years, at least.

I light NOTHING until after Thanksgiving.

It takes me at least two weeks to "stage" and "prep" before I hang and get pissed at everything.

-Merry Christmas!

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 20, 2013 11:45 PM (lq3Ak)

975 no one brought up the greatness known as charvel?
Ugggh
You heathens

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 21, 2013 03:38 AM (fmjNz)

I have some, you're preaching to the chior. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:46 PM (FMbng)

976 Um..choir. I can't fucking type tonight

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:46 PM (FMbng)

977 The kid and I both have two A+++ level guitars (ESP m-1s and San dimas') And a beater both shitty little bc riches We treat those like crap, among they still play

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2013 11:47 PM (igDix)

978 979. Just something about the speed and tone of a USA made charvel San dimas

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2013 11:49 PM (igDix)

979

Having spent the last 40 years living next to San Dimas, not really

I banez is much more varied, innovative, and versatile

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 11:51 PM (b7yum)

980 I almost picked up an esp m-1 a few weeks ago. A dude I know had it and traded it in to guitar center like an asshole instead of telling me. It got sold, then returned, so I ran up there to snatch it and it was returned with a different bridge and pickup. ugh. It sold for $475

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 20, 2013 11:51 PM (FMbng)

981 I have a Charvel I'd LOVE to trade for an Ibanez

Posted by: DAve at November 20, 2013 11:52 PM (b7yum)

982 977 For our guitar gods here
Try that video game thingy rock something

My kid got it and it's kicking her ass
The higher the difficulty the cleaner and more accurate you have to be

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 21, 2013 03:43 AM (fmjNz)

Yeah, how that works -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btcvSWoQWV0

Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2013 11:54 PM (T1005)

983 @ 975 [Berserker] -- I'd add that there are also three levels of guitar players. There's professionals like you, then there's weekend warriors who need a sturdy, well-built instrument with top quality hardware that they can depend on. And then there's schmoes like me who get a guitar that's "close enough for government work" to maybe play around a bonfire at a party every now and then, that you can pass around to someone else without worrying -- but who aspire to get a nice one someday to show off to their buddies, or pass down to someone someday.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 20, 2013 11:55 PM (m0h0I)

984 984. $475?!!!! Damn!! It's hard as hell to find a used one We have kamakazis here

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2013 11:56 PM (igDix)

985 987. I'm #2 on the list like the brat but I can't even come close to her playing ability And she's 12 Uggghh

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2013 11:58 PM (igDix)

986 *static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 20, 2013 11:59 PM (lq3Ak)

987 Just something about the speed and tone of a USA made charvel San dimas

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 21, 2013 03:49 AM (igDix)

I have an early 80's san dimas with an old duncan distortion that Seymour himself wound. It has a crushing tone.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 21, 2013 12:00 AM (FMbng)

988 you're preaching to the chior. I thought they were intelligent bugs ...

Posted by: Adriane... at November 21, 2013 12:03 AM (jdRXP)

989 990 *static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 21, 2013 03:59 AM (lq3Ak)

====

&sigma

Sum Fx=0, Sum Fy=0, Sum Fz=0, Sum Mx,y,z=0.

Posted by: jc at November 21, 2013 12:06 AM (PlzOe)

990 You didn't break that website. Government did.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 21, 2013 12:07 AM (4/o9U)

991

at least two weeks to "stage" and "prep" before I hang and get pissed at everything.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 21, 2013 03:45 AM (lq3Ak)

a lot of work, I've always enjoyed seeing displays like that.

Merry Christmas

Posted by: dDan at November 21, 2013 12:08 AM (hwYmz)

992 [Berserker] -- I'd add that there are also three levels of guitar players. There's professionals like you, then there's weekend warriors who need a sturdy, well-built instrument with top quality hardware that they can depend on. And then there's schmoes like me who get a guitar that's "close enough for government work" to maybe play around a bonfire at a party every now and then, that you can pass around to someone else without worrying -- but who aspire to get a nice one someday to show off to their buddies, or pass down to someone someday.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 03:55 AM (m0h0I)

My friend calls me a guitar enthusiast, because I'm just not fixed into any one level. I have some guitars that are worth a king's ransom, yet I'll buy some cheap pos just because it was cool. He asked me why the hell would I buy that Dean V, when I have real gibson V's here. I said well the gibsons don't have flame inlays on the fingerboard. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 21, 2013 12:10 AM (FMbng)

993

Posted by: dDan at November 21, 2013 04:08 AM (hwYmz)

afterthought:

kids enjoyed it too, thanks to any/everyone that does this.

Posted by: dDan at November 21, 2013 12:12 AM (hwYmz)

994 What 's up y'all? i discoveted last night Poles eat menudo just like the mex. Only thing missing was red chile. The things one learns on the road.

Posted by: fastfreefall at November 21, 2013 12:16 AM (2Dod/)

995 may God bless America.

Posted by: dDan at November 21, 2013 12:16 AM (hwYmz)

996 may God bless America.

Posted by: dDan at November 21, 2013 04:16 AM (hwYmz)

Fuck yeah!

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 21, 2013 12:18 AM (FMbng)

997

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 21, 2013 04:18 AM (FMbng)

thank you.

Posted by: dDan at November 21, 2013 12:20 AM (hwYmz)

998 Yes indeed. God Bless Her. Im ready to go home.

Posted by: fastfreefall at November 21, 2013 12:20 AM (2Dod/)

999 @ 996 [Berserker] -- Ha! I currently own four guitars with a whopping total investment of $700 -- the best of the bunch being the one I dropped on its headstock two weeks after buying it. They're all entry-level guitars, but they play well. At least I hope the Dimebag Dean plays well after new strings and a setup.

As for the other three, anytime anyone has asked me what I paid for them, they're surprised at how cheaply I got them. There's a certain satisfaction to be found in that -- especially after they like the way it plays more than their own, considerably more expensive, guitar.

I think I can accomplish that with the Dime.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 12:27 AM (m0h0I)

1000

if I ever get enough mad money to go out and buy a brand new Les Paul
or American Telecaster, it'll be a different story. But, I don't see
that ever happening. So, I might as well get cheap ones and have as much
fun with them as I can rather than worrying about taking a bath on the
resale value.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 03:29 AM

You won't regret getting a real Les Paul or Telecaster. Especially an old one. They're only going to get more expensive. For lower cost, Epiphone or Ibanez for Gibson and the Ibanez oldies are excellent, or Squire for Telecaster. Don't understand the hate for Squire. They're fine and cheap. They go alright up against the reissues, as I've found. No complaints. Not considering the $$$.

Squire vs Fender reissue demo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fHKNVhhq5o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnXulRKY2SA

Posted by: otho at November 21, 2013 12:30 AM (9gNQd)

1001 As for the other three, anytime anyone has asked me what I paid for them, they're surprised at how cheaply I got them. There's a certain satisfaction to be found in that -- especially after they like the way it plays more than their own, considerably more expensive, guitar.

I think I can accomplish that with the Dime.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 04:27 AM (m0h0I)

That's pretty much the voyage I have been on. I picked up a 2003 Ibanez SX320Bk last week for $200. The damn thing plays like lightning and sounds incredible. It gives some of my best shit a run for it's money, and that $325 Dean V pretty much holds it's own next to my gibsons. I worried about my good stuff for so frigging long it just feels good not to have to deal with that all the time.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 21, 2013 12:35 AM (FMbng)

1002 Stay well, fastfreefall. Travel during the holidays can get weird ...

Posted by: Adriane... at November 21, 2013 12:41 AM (jdRXP)

1003 Yes indeed. God Bless Her. Im ready to go home.

Posted by: fastfreefall at November 21, 2013 04:20 AM (2Dod/)

stepped out for a smoke,

come on back when you're able. take care.

Posted by: dDan at November 21, 2013 12:45 AM (hwYmz)

1004 @ 1004 [otho] -- Damn! It fooled me! And I loved to look of those guitars. (BTW -- One reason I'd like to get my hands on a nice, old, beaten-up Tele-style guitar is that I'd like to do a laser-print transfer of one of my photographs to the body. I think it'd be a great challenge to come up with the right image for that.)

@ 1005 [Berserker] -- It's a win-win, huh? You get the satisfaction of playing a great instrument while keeping your prized ones safely out of harm's way.

I'd absolutely love to have a legendary axe to call my own, but I sure as hell don't need the stress of trying to play one while at the same time keeping it in mint condition.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 12:56 AM (m0h0I)

1005 Know what's even better? Shrimp sans tasteless white mush masquerading as food.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 20, 2013 11:34 PM (X9Mnx)

O.O

i dont think we can be friends any more.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 21, 2013 12:58 AM (yh0zB)

1006 I have a Casio BOV-26 Electric Cowbell....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 21, 2013 01:04 AM (9jfyN)

1007 I'd absolutely love to have a legendary axe to call my own, but I sure as hell don't need the stress of trying to play one while at the same time keeping it in mint condition.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 04:56 AM

Mine are pretty beat up and road worn, but they've never suffered serious damage and I've taken them to hell and back. Mind you I do worrry about them, but they've always survived. But, I've always been lucky. Don't be too concerned about what happens when you're playing. It's the drunks you gotta watch. The drunks who aren't playing, I mean.

Posted by: otho at November 21, 2013 01:12 AM (9gNQd)

1008 I'd absolutely love to have a legendary axe to call my own, but I sure as hell don't need the stress of trying to play one while at the same time keeping it in mint condition.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 21, 2013 04:56 AM (m0h0I)

The beauty of finding them used with a few nicks and dings, you'll never notice any new ones you might put in it. On the other hand, those dings tell a story. I have an early 90's white gibson V, and it really aged. The white slowly turned to a shit butter color, it has little dings and bruises, but it was a road dog, and man if it could talk. I toyed around with the idea of refinishing it, but after thinking about it I realized that all I would be doing is erasing my history.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Div at November 21, 2013 01:15 AM (FMbng)

1009 I was reading around the 700s when the cell lost my place and I was suddenly at the bottom. Reading these words of immortal wisdom has not re-induced sleep as I had hoped, so I started the coffee. Looks like discussion settled on ... guitars? I'll go wake the Mrs - that's her dept.. Hahaha -- wake her. Sure. I crack myself up.

Posted by: mindful webworker - does not play well with otters at November 21, 2013 01:31 AM (i5xnd)

1010 Talked to my CFO at a CT based company yesterday and he told me that just this year alone, it cost $250K to comply with ObamaCare for a company with less than 90 employees. The fees and taxes are ridiculous.

Posted by: Joe at November 21, 2013 01:41 AM (TYX3l)

1011 1014 Joe at November 21, 2013 05:41 AM (TYX3l)

A world in need thwarted by the white man's greed...

//Right Rev Jerry Wright

Posted by: sven10077 at November 21, 2013 02:09 AM (9jfyN)

1012

Hey, I'm up in time for an axe discussion.

Kewl.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 02:11 AM (0HooB)

1013 Or at least I would be if there was anyone else up.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 02:15 AM (0HooB)

1014 I'm up.

Posted by: otho at November 21, 2013 02:18 AM (9gNQd)

1015

Egsellente!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 02:21 AM (0HooB)

1016

Egsellente!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 02:21 AM (0HooB)

1017 Crap. We're having the first real rain in many months today. My sister just woke me up because the main ceiling vent upstairs has water dripping out of it.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 21, 2013 02:23 AM (bPxS6)

1018

I'm up early to wait on a call about my job interview yesterday. If I become gainfully employed after nearly 6 years of funemployment, I can truly declare our long national nightmare to be over.

And you'd best believe I'll be shopping for a new bass guitar.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 02:23 AM (0HooB)

1019

what axe you you got in mind?

Posted by: otho at November 21, 2013 02:24 AM (9gNQd)

1020 There is no telling where the water is coming in, where it's accumulating or anything else before it finally gets to the vent to become visible to us.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 21, 2013 02:26 AM (bPxS6)

1021 I'm looking at a mid-level Fender Jazz 4-string fretless. I have an old Jazz Plus V, she's been my main axe for about 15 years now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 02:26 AM (0HooB)

1022 1021
I'm up early to wait on a call about my job interview yesterday. If I become gainfully employed after nearly 6 years of funemployment, I can truly declare our long national nightmare to be over.

And you'd best believe I'll be shopping for a new bass guitar.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 06:23 AM (0HooB)

...............................................

Best of luck to you!

Posted by: Molly k. at November 21, 2013 02:27 AM (MjXTb)

1023 Morning all.

Spent yesterday in the woods with shotguns, clay pigeons, 2 AR-15's and a Mosin.
Not a bad way to kill a day.

Now, back to the grind of watching Barky O'Dogeater try to destroy our nation.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 21, 2013 02:28 AM (NDA7a)

1024

Thanx, Molly k.

The company has been around for a while, it's a small place, some 40 employees in a niche market. The two principals who interviewed me appear to be conservatives. They're both just a little bit crazy, but seem to be nice guys. The head honcho drives a Porsche 911 Carrera that I suspect is his Wednesday car. He holds two patents on his product.

I should know something one way or the other by mid-afternoon. They have one more guy to interview.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 02:32 AM (0HooB)

1025 Oh, a J. Nice. Been thinking heavily about getting another, but, not sure whether to go with a newer model, or get one custom made... would like another oldie... but... $$$.

Posted by: otho at November 21, 2013 02:35 AM (9gNQd)

1026

I know the feeling, otho. There's a couple of well-known luthiers down here who I'd love to have make me a bass. I don't let anyone else work on my basses but them. They make Fender clones that sound great.

One bud of mine has a set of matching 5-strings they made, one fretted, one fretless. Took him a couple of years to get them both together, but talk about a great look on stage.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 02:40 AM (0HooB)

1027 how much would a scratch built one cost? What about one made from old components?

Posted by: otho at November 21, 2013 02:45 AM (9gNQd)

1028 At Drudge Another Project Veritas video Navigation Director in Texas on tape telling a Navigator to "raid" Obamacare enrollment data and turn it over for political purposes.

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 02:48 AM (zOTsN)

1029 The Navigator Director says "do whatever it takes" to steal the personal information of enrollees

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 02:50 AM (zOTsN)

1030

I don't know. I haven't approached them yet. I would expect it to be at least a couple of grand.

I'm not sure about being able to find enough old stuff to make another one. I have toyed around with the idea of perhaps getting a kit from Carvin and assembling it myself. My old teacher, Beaver, has a couple and they sound really good, especially for his style of slap bass. It'd be nice to find somebody with a laser engraver that can add some graphics to the body, then seal it up with some epoxy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 02:51 AM (0HooB)

1031 Nixon only ordered one break in Obama is ordering potentially hundreds of millions of water gates, theft of personal information for political gain

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 02:53 AM (zOTsN)

1032 1032 Thunderb at November 21, 2013 06:50 AM (zOTsN)

The entire Federal Government is the Partisan Plaything of the Ogabe gang...you didn't get the memo?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 21, 2013 02:54 AM (9jfyN)

1033 This is flaming skull stuff No way this didn't come from the top In fact who want to bet their are creating code to secretly harvest the data of enrollees right fucking now

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 02:55 AM (zOTsN)

1034 Outrageous.

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 02:57 AM (zOTsN)

1035 If you call and complain to a navigator, I am sure you get placed on another kind of list This is Soviet in its scope

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 02:59 AM (zOTsN)

1036 Unbelievable. And if you are contested by the political "navigators" and let it be known you won't vote their way, how long until your health care status is affected

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 03:02 AM (zOTsN)

1037 Stasi.gov

Posted by: Epobirs at November 21, 2013 03:02 AM (bPxS6)

1038 Contacted not contested

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 03:02 AM (zOTsN)

1039

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at November 21, 2013 06:51 AM

Oh, ok. That sounds about right. Thanks. I know what I'd like to have, but I dunno about getting it done, without old parts.

Posted by: otho at November 21, 2013 03:04 AM (9gNQd)

1040 The new Stasi

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 03:04 AM (zOTsN)

1041 Enroll America = Battleground Texas They are using it to steal an election Right Fucking Now!!

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 03:11 AM (zOTsN)

1042 The state head of Enroll America admits that Enroll America and Battleground Texas ARE THE SAME THING. That he was working on an election this month We will never win another election if this shit show is not repealed, and not because we learned to love it

Posted by: Thunderb at November 21, 2013 03:15 AM (zOTsN)

1043 post-Doolittle reunion Boeing 747 mistakenly lands at small Wichita Kansas airport. The jet used to haul 787 Dreamliner parts landed at Jabara Airport instead of its intended destination of McConnell Air Force Base. ...autopilot computer programmed to the wrong destination and the pilot asleep or otherwise preoccupied?

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 21, 2013 03:41 AM (MhA4j)

1044 nanny-state school lunch imposition Eventually, some kid will suffer an allergic reaction and severe health crisis to a food imposed/served as a nutritional supplement by the parents' betters; a fartin' know it all public administrator, bureaucrat, teacher's aide or educator. Death? "It was for their own good, for the children." Nothing to see, move along.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 21, 2013 03:46 AM (MhA4j)

1045 1046

Probably not maintaining situational awareness, combined with ATC not paying attention. There's like 4 airfields all with runways oriented in the almost exact same direction in a 12 mile radius there. McConnell is by far the largest, but based on a quick look at the sat images, Jabara looks a lot like a 1/2 scale McConnell, and it's straight out off McConnell's strip going north by about 11 miles.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 21, 2013 04:10 AM (G99e4)

1046 mr. moo moo goes after eman 108 95 Marcotte seems unaware that her body naturally slaughters bacteria by the millions every day. What a completely useless bag of cells she is. BTW, microbe poetry sucks. Posted by: eman at November 20, 2013 09:55 PM (AO9UG) _____________ Uhm no. Her point is that the anti-abortion people kill millions of bacteria every day but don't care. So why do they care if an abortion kills some other type of bacteria? I don't agree with her. BUt you're totally missing her point. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 20, 2013 09:59 PM (dfLY4)

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