November 05, 2013
— Maetenloch
Guns & Ammo Editor Doesn't Understand the Second Amendment
In the December issue G&A technical editor Dick Metcalf supports regulating guns using this argument:
"I bring this up," Metcalf writes, "because way too many gun owners still believe that any regulation of the right to keep and bear arms is an infringement. The fact is that all Constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be."
"Many argue that any regulation at all is, by definition, an infringement. If that were true, then the authors of the Second Amendment themselves, should not have specified "well-regulated."
Meanwhile Bob Owens (now of Bearingarms.com) who I have a lot of respect for also doesn't seem to quite fully get the Second Amendment either:
As a shooting community, we seem to be huge on the latter half of the Second Amendment, and not so much on the first half. Find a Second Amendment rally anywhere, and you'll hear cries of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed!" You won't hear many cries (if any) for "a well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state!" Do you ever wonder why that is? While I don't purport to speak for everyone, I have a hunch.I think it has to do with the uncomfortable fact that the first half of the Second Amendment suggests an obligation and a duty.
A "well regulated militia" would require people to sacrifice, to get in shape, learn small unit tactics, hike with heavy packs in deplorable weather conditions, give up modern conveniences, and generally suffer to become something that might pass as the sort of militia that would have a hope of surviving in today's fourth and fifth generation warfare.
Look I'm no constitutional professor but it should be pretty well understood these days that the term "well regulated" in the 18th century had the connotation of being well run and functioning rather than the modern meaning of being controlled and restricted by say the government.
Plus the first clause of the Second Amendment, "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state", should be seen as a motivational phrase providing a justification for the second clause without necessarily limiting it to that single purpose. So you could just as well re-phrase the 2A as "A well armed neighborhood watch being necessary to repel an invasion of zombies, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," without changing existing gun rights or limiting gun ownership to only fighting the undead in an organized group.
And that's not just my interpretation - that's what the Supreme Court said in District of Columbia v. Heller on the very first page of the decision syllabus (italics mine):
- (1) The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Pp. 2-53.
- (a) The Amendment's prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause's text and history demonstrate that it connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms. Pp. 2-22.
- (b) The prefatory clause comports with the Court's interpretation of the operative clause. The "militia" comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens' militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens' militia would be preserved. Pp. 22-28.
- (c) The Court's interpretation is confirmed by analogous arms-bearing rights in state constitutions that preceded and immediately followed the Second Amendment. Pp. 28-30.
- (d) The Second Amendment's drafting history, while of dubious interpretive worth, reveals three state Second Amendment proposals that unequivocally referred to an individual right to bear arms. Pp. 30-32.
- (e) Interpretation of the Second Amendment by scholars, courts and legislators, from immediately after its ratification through the late 19th century also supports the Court's conclusion. Pp. 32-47.
- (f) None of the Court's precedents forecloses the Court's interpretation.
So basically your individual right to own gun has nothing to do with a "well regulated militia" - even if that was the original motivation for it. And anyone who claims they're currently connected is wrong. Period. Full stop.
It's rather dismaying to find that even professional writers in the gun community are still confused after Heller on what exactly the second amendment means.
Teacher Bullying and the Delphi Technique
Or why you'll be labeled a neo-Nazi if you have the temerity to complain about about your child's indoctrination.
A Pennsylvania father objected when his daughter's middle-school history teacher assigned a project about a New York Times article blaming Republicans for the government shutdown. His complaint apparently made him the target of an orchestrated response by faculty at Camp Hill Middle School, and an English teacher named Cydnee Cohen left a voicemail message for one of the parent's Facebook friends:"We're having some problems with a parent in our school district and on his page you are one of his friends.but I would like to know, some of it seems like he is a neo-nazi.call me."
The mutual friend sent a text (see screenshot) to Cohen, saying that Josh is the "furthest thing" from a neo-nazi, as he is Jewish. Cohen responded, "he is tea party right wing!"
Eh six of one half a dozen of the other.
La Tristesse: Europeans Sadly Discover Obama Isn't the Cool Euro-Guy They Always Dreamed Of
But just another American who's kind of a jerk.
For a long time, the U.S. president retained a much higher popularity on the other side of the Atlantic than that of the average European leader, even when his popularity collapsed among his own citizens. Obama resembled neither Angela Merkel nor Nicolas Sarkozy. Obama was a cool president.
This summer, the image caved in. The "Yes We Can" president became the "Yes We Scan" leader. In press cartoons, large ears pushed out. It's not the repulsion inspired by his predecessor, George W. Bush - not yet - but the charm is gone. Without Hillary Clinton's talents, Barack Obama is not cool, he is cold.
...Truth be told, Barack Obama has lost count of the friendly leaders he has offended. Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli Prime Minister, is furious at his Iran policy and makes no bones about it in Washington. Also concerned about the opening to Iran, the Saudis are furious regarding America's Syrian policy and sulk profoundly under their white ghutrah. Dilma Rousseff, president of Brazil, is furious about having been bugged and canceled her visit to Washington.
Is actually proof that ethnic cleansing and expulsion work.
"Europe's social engineers of the last generation seem to have assumed that the "dark forces" of nationalism and chauvinism had been left behind. That was partly true; the horrors of the two world wars have made many (though far from all) Europeans unwilling to fight anymore on ethnic grounds. But the subsidence of ethnic nationalism in European politics was also a function of the mass ethnic cleansings and genocidal killings that left most European nation states fairly homogenous. There was no "German Question" in Polish or Czech politics because there were no more Germans in these countries. The "Jewish Question" largely faded in postwar Europe, in part because of revulsion against Nazism, but also because the Jews were gone. Europe's architects liked to believe that Europeans had transcended ethnic hatred, but much of Europe's postwar peace came from the success of ethnic hatred in creating homogenous countries."
-- Walter Russell Mead
The windshield wipers are a nice touch.
Everyone is a Beautiful Special Snowflake These Days
Which is why 'selfies' and professional photo shoots are replacing the traditional cap and gown yearbook photo.
The Instagram generation, devoted to "selfies" and bombarded with digital imagery, is increasingly forgoing the time-honored cap-and-gown pose in front of the blue-mottled screen for portrayals more elaborate, personal and, of course, expensive..After the $300 session fee (and the optional $120 hair and makeup service), [Brooke] Daniels's minimum charge for prints and other products is $850. One Fairfax family dropped $7,000 recently for a deluxe senior shoot that included multiple prints of the daughter on canvas, suitable for filling a living-room wall.
[Chris] Steuble said his customers usually spend between $300 and $1,300, with the average being $700. He offers a "photo safari," during which he and the student's family set out to shoot in a range of settings, "some brick-and-
mortar, some nature, some urban street scenes," he said.
Because they look more attractive in groups.
(a) The visual system automatically computes ensemble representations of faces presented in a group, (b) individual members of the group are biased toward this ensemble average, and (c) average faces are attractive. Taken together, these phenomena suggest that individual faces will seem more attractive when presented in a group because they will appear more similar to the average group face, which is more attractive than group members' individual faces.
Basically the human male visual system gets confused when it sees more than one or two chick faces and ends up blending them together. Similarly to how mountain lions and bears often become confused as to the number and size of prey if you wave your hands and yell.
Also Why You Can't Trust the Wide Boys
Charlie teh Kitten's Super Adorable Bedtime Routine
The AoSHQ group. Yeah.
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Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at November 05, 2013 04:53 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at November 05, 2013 04:54 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 04:55 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 04:56 PM (4BA+Y)
Strange trend at 70% in Virginia.
DEM Lt. Gov got 782,000 votes
Terry Mac got 728,000 nearly 60,000 LESS
Cuc has 767,000 versus 699,000 for the Rep Lt. Gov.
Mac isn't getting the straight line Dem vote...while Cucinelli is getting his and more...strange. Mac will still likely take it but it's going to be closer than we thought.
Posted by: JDW at November 05, 2013 04:56 PM (UEoQu)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Mauser757 at November 05, 2013 04:58 PM (SEcTa)
Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at November 05, 2013 04:59 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 04:59 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: JDW at November 05, 2013 05:00 PM (UEoQu)
Dead wrong. European peace came from the US essientially making European armies superfluous.
Just a couple of months ago, Europeans were warning that the EU debt crisis could eventually lead to a European war. There are MASSIVE nationalist movements in every single European country.
The peace comes from the fact that they no longer have the weaponry to wage worlds wars.
You're welcome, Europe. It was our pleasure.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (1QwWe)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 05:01 PM (RZ8pf)
Or given Obama's proclivities, check to see whether they were about to be audited by the IRS or any indictments or divorce papers were filed in court.
Me, I'd still like to know how or with what Obama threatened John Roberts.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (I've found the Character limit for nics) at November 05, 2013 05:02 PM (lAZep)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 05:02 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got formula? at November 05, 2013 05:04 PM (U13jb)
Just as the meaning of Revolution back then didn't mean what it does today. It meant to revolve, as in revolve around the sun to a new beginning. It was only after our Revolutionary war did the term take the meaning to revolt.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 05, 2013 05:04 PM (IV4od)
Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at November 05, 2013 05:04 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: Thrawn at November 05, 2013 05:06 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 05:07 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 05:07 PM (t3UFN)
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Posted by: Thrawn at November 05, 2013 09:06 PM (ZyqBH)
De Blasio celebration party?
Posted by: Jon Huntsman at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (H0R/1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 05:08 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 05:09 PM (t3UFN)
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Posted by: Justamom at November 05, 2013 05:16 PM (Sptt8)
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Close isn't good for the R. I see from a link to WaPo on Drudge that Hispanics turned out for the Dem. Yeah, Republicans. Hurry up and get to pushing that comprehensive amnesty through. It'll pay off. Really, it will. But not for you.
Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at November 05, 2013 05:16 PM (XB5Ak)
Actually, the meaning of the word "regulation" has changed enormously since the era in which the Constitution was set forth.
If you read the correspondence of Jefferson, you will find him describing long walks in the countryside as the best means of "regulation" of the body.
By which Jefferson meant, in effect, exercise.
A "well-regulated militia", in the context of bearing arms, would then be a militia who were competent to handle arms, as a result of privately owning and regularly exercising with said arms.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 05:16 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 05, 2013 05:17 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 05:17 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: nabqrules at November 05, 2013 05:17 PM (FmWKc)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got chad? at November 05, 2013 05:19 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at November 05, 2013 05:20 PM (u25eL)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 05:20 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (jf8y6)
Posted by: Justamom at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at November 05, 2013 05:21 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 05, 2013 05:22 PM (42AzI)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (AO9UG)
Threatened to take his little kids. They're adopted.
Roberts skirted the law when he adopted them. They're both by Irish mothers.
Irish law basically says, no adoptions to foreigners, including Americans.
The mothers traveled out of Ireland to give birth. This is legally dicey.
First order of business from any future GOP President has to be to quietly ask Roberts to resign. He's fatally compromised. Another wonderful legacy of the Bush bunch.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 05:23 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 05:24 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 05:25 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at November 05, 2013 05:26 PM (u25eL)
Correction, One's a girl, one's a GILF, and one's a pre-op transexual.
And yes that is the shocker.
Posted by: Kreplach at November 05, 2013 05:27 PM (dwtaK)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 05, 2013 05:27 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 05, 2013 05:27 PM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got lead? at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 05:28 PM (doBIb)
Are you saying that only the Irish govt can grant the right for a mother to give up her child for adoption? Is this true in the U.S. as well?
Posted by: Titanium at November 05, 2013 05:29 PM (IgOQg)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 05, 2013 05:29 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: Joe at November 05, 2013 05:29 PM (aW6dO)
regulated" in the 18th century had the connotation of being well run and
functioning rather than the modern meaning of being controlled and
restricted by say the government."
Well regulated means uniformity.
"The "militia" comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense."
This "militia" was addressed in the main body of the Constitution for regular Army & Navy and the organized militia (primarily article 1, section
, with the unorganized militia rights to the same arms in the 2nd. (Miller) ALL the 'militia' were to be well-regulated, a uniformity of arms, whether a regular soldier or frontier farmer.
BUT, what do I know - I see that the 1st specifically refers to Congress, therefore it specifically forbade Congress from infringing on, say, religion, where the 2nd just says 'shall not be infringed' and everybody thinks that only applies to the Federal Government on Federal Territory, not States.
What Federal Territory was there in 1787?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 05, 2013 05:30 PM (80R0X)
Profound sympathies, justamom.
I tend to figure psychiatry, and especially child/adolescent psychiatry, is not all that better scientifically grounded than is phrenology.
Have you considered that there are other potential reasons for your daughter's self-harming impulses? Consider all possibilities. Plenty of times in more conventional medicine, the obvious diagnosis turns out to be wrong upon a second look.
Bullying hurts, but so do a lot of other things. Hidden substance abuse. Invisible relationship problems. Including even abuse by psychiatrists, to be frank.
There has been an ongoing high profile court case near where I live, in which a supposedly brilliant and stellar child psychiatrist at the top of his profession turns out to have been molesting boys sent to him, for decades on end. The court minutes are pretty damning about the level of professional standards in that field.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (4BA+Y)
But I will argue that the Second Amendment specifically says ARMS, not Guns...
An Arm is a Military Weapon. One that is viable in Combat.
The base military Weapon of the world today, is the Semi Auto Assault Rifle... its pretty much the MINIMUM...
Yet in California? We can't have any militarily viable weapons... unless of course we are in the Police, or Hollywood....
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (lZBBB)
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state",
'Free state' clearly means free from Tea-bagging, Bible-thumping, gun-hugging Fuckers like YOU!
Posted by: D'oh!bamma and his Marxist minions at November 05, 2013 05:31 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 05:32 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 05:33 PM (doBIb)
The members of the Militia (all of us) were expected to have armaments at home or stored nearby that were what a soldier, a regular, had at his ready.
Posted by: eman
Not bad - a quick and dirty wiki for the day shows an example of a regulator -
A precision pendulum clock, originally used as a time-standard for adjusting or regulating other clocks and watches.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 05, 2013 05:34 PM (80R0X)
Posted by: Justamom at November 05, 2013 05:34 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 05:35 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Joe at November 05, 2013 05:36 PM (aW6dO)
I suggested alternate possibilities beyond just bullying. I don't want to rule out that bullying might well be the cause.
However, what makes modern bullying so acidly corrosive is SOCIAL MEDIA.
Which has the capability for every small humiliating adolescent slip to go global in nanoseconds. And for disorganized bullies to spontaneously organize.
I understand some yuppie parents of school-aged kids are now imposing "timeouts" on Facebook and the like. Frankly I suspect they'd have better adjusted kids if those timeouts lasted until age eighteen.
The list of social media induced teen suicides is startlingly extensive.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 05:37 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: GreggTex at November 05, 2013 05:37 PM (YEDer)
Posted by: Justamom at November 05, 2013 05:38 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 05:38 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 05:39 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: ajl at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (JToqw)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got gestures? at November 05, 2013 05:40 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Justamom at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (Sptt8)
I know several white couples in the US who went to adopt.
They were basically told, "Hey, any color you want so long as it's not white."
There just aren't enough of the white kids to go round. It's a reality that many would-be adoptive parents would prefer to, if they can't have kids who share their own genetics, have kids who at least look like they do.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 05:41 PM (gqT4g)
Regulate: To put or maintain in order, as in, to regulate one's diet.
Posted by: D'oh!bamma and his Marxist minions at November 05, 2013 05:42 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 05:42 PM (AO9UG)
That's why these fuckers want the guns taken away.
Once the people are disarmed they are made powerless.
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 09:23 PM (AO9UG)
This is true. And also the only reason I still hold any hope for the future.
That we might someday take a stand instead of getting picked off one by one.
Posted by: cm9000 at November 05, 2013 05:42 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 05:44 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo, naturalised '94 at November 05, 2013 05:46 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 09:41 PM (gqT4g)
A million or so abortions a year does tend to reduce the pool somewhat.
Posted by: cm9000 at November 05, 2013 05:46 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Justamom at November 05, 2013 05:47 PM (Sptt8)
Yes, such as cross out the Second Amendment except for "The Right to bear arms shall not be infringed"
Simple and clear.
This. Bearing arms. Guaranteed. Hurting people with them unprovoked. Already a bad thing.
Posted by: D'oh!bamma and his Marxist minions at November 05, 2013 05:49 PM (DHQv9)
I recall the sign-off line of David E. Davis at C&D was "Freedom and whiskey!"
Hard to get less left-wing than that.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 05:50 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got democrazy? at November 05, 2013 05:50 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: rickl at November 05, 2013 05:50 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:51 PM (Kud5A)
I've read stories of horrific cruelty in Russian orphanages. I literally almost became sick to my stomach.
Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 05:51 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Justamom at November 05, 2013 09:47 PM (Sptt
This is what we are up against in this country. If u think for a minute the new liberals would not do this, you are mistaken. See reaction to Palin raising a downs baby to reinforce this assertion.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at November 05, 2013 05:52 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got definition? at November 05, 2013 05:52 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 05:52 PM (4BA+Y)
I tried to make that same point in a FB debate the other day - here in Colorado, the most onerous part of the new regs is the private gun transfer background check requirement, which makes anyone who loans outside of a specific set of immediate family members (uncle yes, great uncle no, brother yes, SIL no), or very specific locations and activities (incorporated range, licensed hunting) a criminal (class 2 misdemeanor).
Our gambling laws have a simple definition that could have been appropriate here, "bone fide social relationship" - they got weirdly specific instead of using a simple definition, as is their wont.
If I invited a friend to my land, and we were plinking in an isolated, safe area, if I shot his gun, that would be a crime now.
Posted by: Joe at November 05, 2013 05:52 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 05, 2013 05:53 PM (Kud5A)
I got my fill of horror stories when reading about the Romanian orphanages under Ceaucescu, circa 1990 after the man got shot.
First off, AIDS. Gets worse from there.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 05:53 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: spypeach at November 05, 2013 05:54 PM (10H0T)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 09:53 PM (d7tB2)
The stories I read were more along the lines of the children as a "buffet" for the perverted and twisted.
Posted by: EC at November 05, 2013 05:55 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at November 05, 2013 05:55 PM (DHQv9)
Prayers for you and your daughter. I was bullied in Jr High (who wasn't?) and I made the mistake of not standing up for myself because of the mistaken idea that I would be "messing up" in school by fighting and would get in trouble. In retrospect, an energetic response to such bullying challenges would have done a world of good. As it was, my inaction just opened me up to be bullied by others.
My advice to my children has been to laugh bullying off, joke back to the bully and eventually become friends with them. If there is no other choice they certainly have the option of defending themselves and if a bully wants a fight, they should take it to them with great force, but not take the first swing.
Martial arts lessons help the self esteem and confidence and help in the case your daughter or son needs to take action. It usually doesn't take much.
Posted by: Sphynx at November 05, 2013 05:55 PM (cll/q)
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 05:56 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Justamom at November 05, 2013 05:56 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: cm9000 at November 05, 2013 09:46 PM (3qZbZ)
You'll never win elections talking like that.
Posted by: Jon Huntsman at November 05, 2013 05:57 PM (H0R/1)
Posted by: Joe at November 05, 2013 05:58 PM (aW6dO)
One of my cousins adopted a Russian brother and sister when they were three and four respectively. Orphans.
They were absolutely unmanageable. Complete psychos who attacked the other kids at school, attacked their adoptive parents, and killed the family cat.
At one point my cousin wanted my eighty-year-old mother to tutor them, but my brother and I said that we'd be there too, with baseball bats, so it never happened.
The kids were MADE into psychos; it wasn't their fault, but they were still irredeemable. If I had to brain a psycho child to protect my elderly mother, I would.
After four years, my cousin sent them back to Russia.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at November 05, 2013 06:01 PM (1QwWe)
Posted by: Justamom at November 05, 2013 06:01 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 06:01 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: EROWMER at November 05, 2013 06:01 PM (OONaw)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 06:02 PM (4BA+Y)
Regarding the ethnic cleansing in Europe:
Apparently these European social engineers don't know their own history. Maybe they need to read Savage Continent: Europe in the Aftermath of WWII .
The killings based upon your family line didn't stop just because the war was officially over.
Posted by: PMRich at November 05, 2013 06:02 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 06:03 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 06:03 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 05, 2013 06:04 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got time? at November 05, 2013 06:04 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Sphynx at November 05, 2013 09:55 PM (cll/q)
People who don't take the first swing usually lose the fight.
If you are going to fight...fight to win. And if that means taking the first swing; so be it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 06:05 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 06:05 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Beef at November 05, 2013 06:05 PM (XERws)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (AO9UG)
That was another horror story I read about Romanian orphans. Some girl they adopted was violent, too, but mostly stole stuff a lot. Just when the broken-hearted family were about to send her back to Romania she broke down, telling the family that in a Romanian orphanage you had to steal and fight; or else, starve.
Eastern Europe. Fun place.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Joe at November 05, 2013 09:58 PM (aW6dO)
of course I'm special, I was only kidding about that. but, hey, are you Real Joe or just some generic Joe?
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Capt. Obvious at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (zvFWX)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: Justamom at November 05, 2013 06:06 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 06:07 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 06:07 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: rickl at November 05, 2013 06:08 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 10:05 PM (4BA+Y)
Nope.
Undergraduate only, and I'm not sure he graduated.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 06:08 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: AltonJackson (who is now on Twitter) at November 05, 2013 06:09 PM (JMmQ9)
And here, I'll save the libtards the trouble:
<Chris Matthews>
Really, when I hear them say "junk government", you know what I think they're trying to say? "Junk" brings to mind "junkyard", like the old show "Sanford and Son", about an angry black man. So really, isn't this just another conservative codeword for "black", isn't this just another example of the racist opposition to a black president?
</Chris Matthews>
Posted by: Captain Comic at November 05, 2013 06:09 PM (s/Ouk)
And it sounds like Cyndee Cohen is properly programmed to commit atrocities.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 05, 2013 06:09 PM (JA4pL)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 06:09 PM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 06:10 PM (t3UFN)
I worked very hard on this essay explaining the grammatical ins and outs of an "absolute phrase" and like a small child yearn for approval. The whole thing is actually sort of nerdish. I like this point:
"If there is any ambiguity in the 2nd Amendment it's over whether or not the "militia" can be required by law to own and train with weapons or if they can chose to be unarmed. (Recall those town councils that pass resolutions that each head of household must own a gun.)
If the first clause of the 2nd Am. describes "a cause or condition" for the second clause, and the anti-gunners think that a lack of a militia rules it out... they just aren't actually reading the first clause."Posted by: Synova at November 05, 2013 06:10 PM (7/PU+)
Israel is looking mighty nice for retirement.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 06:11 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 06:11 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:11 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 06:11 PM (t3UFN)
Ceausescu got his Praetorian Guard from the orphanages. They were the guys who ran over the crowds with tanks and machine-gunned them from the air with helicopters. But the people won anyway.
Ever see Nicholai and Elena's trial and execution? It's classic. They're both saying over and over, "This isn't happening." After they're found guilty and taken out to be shot, these mass-murdering pigs are screeching and begging. "How can you do this to us?" they ask.
The firing squad began shooting as soon as they saw them. No order had to be given. Fully automatic AKs opened up for several seconds. Nicholai fell into this amazing contortionist's posture, lying on his back with his legs shaped like a "W," his heels up by his shoulders. Elena lay with her ankles crossed, looking really relaxed. Both corpses' eyes were open.
Doctors checked to see if they were alive by tapping their eyeballs with their fingertips, and then they loaded them into these bizarre, narrow, Transylvanian coffins and posed with them in some confusion.
It's amazing footage. Somewhere online it's up with subtitles in English. All world leaders should see it, not that it would do any good.
"Won't happen to ME! I'm special!"
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at November 05, 2013 06:12 PM (1QwWe)
Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at November 05, 2013 06:12 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Synova at November 05, 2013 06:12 PM (7/PU+)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 06:13 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2013 10:11 PM (t3UFN)
If it isn't, then retirement probably won't be in the cards.
Theater-wide thermonuclear war tends to dampen economies all over the world.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2013 06:13 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got nitpicker? at November 05, 2013 06:13 PM (U13jb)
They're the Country Club Republicans of the 2A community.
Posted by: A gun guy at November 05, 2013 06:14 PM (Dwehj)
just another Joe, same Joe I've been forever - and real as can be, as far as I can tell! Never thought of a clever name here ...
Posted by: Joe at November 05, 2013 06:16 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 06:16 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 05, 2013 06:16 PM (oFCZn)
Yep. 2A makes no distinction between organized/unorganized.
Whoever wrote the Federal definition could have used the terms regulated/unregulated, but DIDN'T.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 06:16 PM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 05, 2013 06:17 PM (6rcHp)
I can't speak to the accuracy, but a recent article 'claimed' the Roberts illegally adopted 2 Irish orphans via a South American country. If this is the case, it would be a big enough scandal (via the LSM blowing it up) to give 'rats the excuse to demand Robert's resignation.
At the very least, it would prove a major distraction for the whole session of the SC, and the O-care ruling.
Is it true? Can't say... would Obaka use dumpster divers to get dirt on anybody in his way? Hell yes.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 05, 2013 06:18 PM (lJaja)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 06:18 PM (RZ8pf)
Other than possibly malnutrition. Wasn't that just everyday life for most people in the 1800s?
Posted by: The Hickster at November 05, 2013 06:19 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 05, 2013 06:19 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got cognomen? at November 05, 2013 06:19 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Joe at November 05, 2013 10:16 PM (aW6dO)
well, wtf was wrong with "RealJoe?" it was marginally cleverer than "Joe." I liked RealJoe and I demand to know why you have abandoned it!!! 
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:20 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:20 PM (ZPrif)
You'd have to get all the Class 3 paperwork in order, meet the explosives storage requirements (which probably would exclude urban/suburban storage sites for the big stuff), but its doable.
There are owned cannon, tanks, and jet fighters. I don't know if anyone owns a surface combatant. That's a pretty high maintenance item
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 06:21 PM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 05, 2013 06:22 PM (42AzI)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 06:22 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 05, 2013 06:22 PM (tmFlQ)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 06:23 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 05, 2013 06:23 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 05, 2013 10:22 PM (42AzI)
No. Nobody does that.
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:23 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 06:23 PM (GEICT)
Look in the mirror comrade.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 06:24 PM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 05, 2013 06:24 PM (b9K4P)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at November 05, 2013 06:24 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 06:24 PM (1FgrF)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 06:24 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Joe at November 05, 2013 06:24 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
...As sure as my name is Slappy D. Weasel
Posted by: Slapweasel at November 05, 2013 06:25 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Synova at November 05, 2013 06:25 PM (7/PU+)
Posted by: Purp at November 05, 2013 10:09 PM (fZ2Zr)
We are desperately in need of militias ready to stand against Federal government concentration of power.
The Spirit of 76 redux.
Posted by: cm9000 at November 05, 2013 06:25 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at November 05, 2013 06:25 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 06:26 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 10:23 PM
Shhhhh, everyone. He's shown up. Put away the good grog and hide the lampshade.
Posted by: otho at November 05, 2013 06:26 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Jmel at November 05, 2013 06:26 PM (cfFqn)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 06:26 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 10:24 PM (1FgrF)
buddy, I love ya, but you are such a fuckin' goofball kid . . .
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:27 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Joe at November 05, 2013 06:27 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:28 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jmel at November 05, 2013 10:26 PM (cfFqn)
that's kinda like asking if someone is a little bit pregnant or a lot. screwed is screwed, ain't no two, three ways about it. we're doomed.
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:28 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got Mylar? at November 05, 2013 06:28 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 06:28 PM (RZ8pf)
If only there was some sort of place where young men, say 16-18, spent large amounts to time during the year. A place with rooms where they could gather and learn about this stuff.
Secondly, he's wrong. Marksmanship, a bit of fieldcraft, D&C, first aid, and some basic squad tactics would be very easy to teach and more than enough for most young men. The idea is not to make professional soldiers but to give enough of the basics that you're not starting from scratch down the line.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at November 05, 2013 06:28 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 06:29 PM (hpgw1)
http://savetheptboatinc.com/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 05, 2013 06:29 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 10:28 PM (RZ8pf)
of course, PGiS!!! did you just hear me popping the top off another can o' cheap swill? there's your sound!
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:29 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:30 PM (ZPrif)
I know what you mean.
Posted by: PseudoJoe at November 05, 2013 06:30 PM (H0R/1)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 06:30 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: James Madison at November 05, 2013 06:30 PM (cf72s)
Posted by: PseudoJoe at November 05, 2013 10:30 PM (H0R/1)
yeah . . . we are legion
Posted by: Faux Joe at November 05, 2013 06:31 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 06:31 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Synova at November 05, 2013 06:31 PM (7/PU+)
Who cares?
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
--H.L. Mencken
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at November 05, 2013 06:31 PM (1QwWe)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 06:32 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:32 PM (aDwsi)
lets not all get the vapors over Christy
he sucked up to the JEF and poured all that sweet sweet federal money over blue counties
when the crypt keeper died, instead of giving a year appointment to someone who could run for the job, he gave it to a no name place holder until he could hold an election at the earliest opportunity. He basically gave the job to Booker. See, now Booker, who always had aspirations for higher office, is out of the way. His way. Booker would not be running for governor
The Dems, prolly in a quid pro quo move, ran Barbara Buono, a nobody from Middlesex County. Made her feel good, but she was never gonna win
He won the way the democrats win
by dropping millions of taxpayer dollars over blue voters
he will be a shoo in for POTUS (not)
even in the exit polls today, voters, who had just voted for him by a huge margin, said they would rather vote for Hillary for POTUS than him. By a wide margin
He knows how to get elected in NJ. But they wont vote for him for POTUS. And the press loves him now. They loved McCain too. And Romney
fahgeddaboutit
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 06:32 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Joe who doesn't have a clever name at November 05, 2013 06:32 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got Virtual Reality? at November 05, 2013 06:32 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:33 PM (ZPrif)
What a mook.
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 10:26 PM (v6hyJ)
Fuck Romney. I didnt vote for him because the guy was a shitty liar and campaigner and was so fucking limp wristed. Christie seems like he has values and frankly we do need to woo traditional Dem voters and remove the fucking stranglehold the dems have on minorities and women.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 06:33 PM (1FgrF)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 06:34 PM (v6hyJ)
If your talking about libertarians then yeah.
However, in VA, you're seeing the repeat of a successful 'rat gambit... run a stalking horse, and peel off votes from the R-candidate.
Libertarians are idiots... they're not smart enough to rate the moron label. They've given VA to a hack idiot who'll run the state into the ground.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 05, 2013 06:35 PM (lJaja)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 06:35 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 10:28 PM (RZ8pf)
There are no real girls on the internet.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at November 05, 2013 06:35 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 06:35 PM (RZ8pf)
Okay, y'all surly bastards. I'm headed off to find some sleep.
...stay out of the barrel, huh?
Posted by: Slapweasel at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Cheap Knock-off Imitation Joe at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (42AzI)
Posted by: Cheap Knock-off Imitation Joe at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (42AzI)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:36 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 10:35 PM (zOTsN)
pretty sure donuts and cannoli are high on his list as well but, yeah, pretty much.
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 10:35 PM (zOTsN)
pretty sure donuts and cannoli are high on his list as well but, yeah, pretty much.
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:37 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:39 PM (aDwsi)
If I want a fucking Ma-Duece, and can afford one, then fuck you.
If a man could afford a cannon in 1790, then buy God he could own one.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 06:39 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: spypeach at November 05, 2013 06:39 PM (10H0T)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 06:40 PM (1FgrF)
Posted by: spypeach at November 05, 2013 09:54 PM (10H0T)
I'll give Fairfax a kick in the ass for you. stupid on stilts.
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 06:40 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Surreal Joe at November 05, 2013 06:40 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 10:29 PM (hpgw1)
Thanks for the recommendation. Its on my Kindle but I haven't read it yet.
And while silence is golden, I think our country needs a very loud wake up call.
Posted by: cm9000 at November 05, 2013 06:41 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 05, 2013 06:41 PM (+k791)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:41 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 05, 2013 06:41 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: spypeach at November 05, 2013 06:41 PM (10H0T)
Posted by: Joe who is a big new fan of Jaimie Alexander at November 05, 2013 06:42 PM (aW6dO)
stolen from here: http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/reading-the-second-amendment
And note that this is in contrast to congress obligation to fund a standing army.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 06:42 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:42 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 06:42 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got mutual admiration society? at November 05, 2013 06:42 PM (U13jb)
flapjackmaka you are so persuasive
let me consider your point of view
I gave you several facts why Christy won so readily in NJ but wont win in a general
you tell me why you would never vote for Cruz
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 06:42 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Thrawn at November 05, 2013 06:43 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:43 PM (aDwsi)
Check under News. Earlier this year thieves broke into the boathouse where the boat is stored. And stole about $6,000 worth of tools.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 05, 2013 06:43 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 10:40 PM (1FgrF)
I say Cruz, now get off my lawn and do your fuckin' homework, little boy. You had a lot of bad ideas in '12 and your brain still ain't workin' right. Srsly, get your shit together.
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:44 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:44 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Joe who has a bizarre, food-obsessed mini-Beagle at November 05, 2013 06:45 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: The Hickster at November 05, 2013 06:45 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 05, 2013 06:45 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 06:46 PM (RZ8pf)
We are surrounded by idiots
Posted by: spypeach at November 05, 2013 10:39 PM (10H0T)
think I'll drink tonight and go to class hungover tomorrow (like a real college student). happy shopping tomorrow.
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 06:46 PM (ga+7c)
Put me down for 100, I'll stick 'em on all the libtards' cars. Heh, let them get their windows bashed out here in El Lay.
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:46 PM (8lmkt)
260 that kind of talk gets you banned here. There will be not talk of watering anything
Cruz 2016: Fuck Off!
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 06:46 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 06:46 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 05, 2013 06:46 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 06:46 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 06:46 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Thrawn at November 05, 2013 06:47 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Ricky at November 05, 2013 06:48 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:48 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:48 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 06:48 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 10:42 PM (zOTsN)
I never said I wouldnt vote for Cruz. Dont put words in my mouth. Just he wont win shit. What does he give us? We need to fucking win to do anything. Christie has at least shown he can campaign and get some minorities on board. He's more effective as a campaigner than Romney ever was who had to quit after his first term cause he would lose. As long as he focuses on fiscal issues, I really would climb on board. I seriously dont think he'd burn good will by going after guns either.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 06:48 PM (1FgrF)
The rant-o-matic will start with the sacred sacrament of abortion probably. But always nice to make sure they are stark raving bonkers before hitting 'unfriend'
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 05, 2013 06:49 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Thrawn at November 05, 2013 06:49 PM (ZyqBH)
is it just me or is Facebook full of scolds! I actually hate it. Rarely go, and then get turned off and leave again
new facebook posting
Cruz 2016: Fuck Off!!
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 06:49 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got the twitters? at November 05, 2013 06:49 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 06:50 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 06:50 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 06:50 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 06:50 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: AltonJackson (who is now on Twitter) at November 05, 2013 06:51 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: MLK at November 05, 2013 06:51 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 06:52 PM (aDwsi)
I have learned just saying things confidently and using big words (that you actually know the meaning of and in context) makes people believe you. This helps minimize engineers stupid questions. Not BSing them but if I show doubt they will doubt me. (not really an answer to the question just more why it works on tV)
Posted by: The Hickster at November 05, 2013 06:52 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 10:50 PM (v6hyJ)
FTFY. And who gives a shit if NYC elects a commie? Fuck them too.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 06:52 PM (1FgrF)
Posted by: real joe at November 05, 2013 06:52 PM (xXhgd)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 05, 2013 06:52 PM (lVPtV)
Flapmakawacka
the only reason any minorities at all voted for Christy is because he eliminated Booker as competition? By all but giving him that Senate seat?
Why would he do that? Because he knew he would have a much tougher race with Booker in it because of identity politics
I will grant you Christy is smart. But he will not be able to do that in a general, especially if Hillary is the candidate
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 06:52 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 05, 2013 06:52 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:54 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Ain't no Joe like the Real Joe at November 05, 2013 06:54 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 06:54 PM (4BA+Y)
"Look I'm no constitutional professor but it should be pretty well understood these days that the term "well regulated" in the 18th century had the connotation of being well run and functioning rather than the modern meaning of being controlled and restricted by say the government."
Then why did the Constitution explicitly grant Congress the power to regulate the militia? (While reserving to States the power to enact the regulations as well as select the officers.)
Wthout such controls and restrictions by the government, what would be the difference between a militia and a bandit gang?
And the biggest question, how exactly do you determine a militia, or anything else, is "well run and functioning" without an external set of standards to measure their performance, and where do these standards come from?
Posted by: Sam at November 05, 2013 06:55 PM (Eba7/)
Blackstone remarked on precisely that in his famous Commentaries On The Laws Of England thus codifying it as part of English Common Law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commentaries_on_the_Laws_of_England
Ask your jaggoff what body of law he bases his opinion on. The US legal system adopted huge swaths of English common law...including an intrinsic right of self defense.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 06:56 PM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 10:52 PM (1FgrF)
dude, srsly, stand down. and, yes, I called you "boy." which is probably not as bad as "dumbass," which is what I was really thinking. 
Posted by: Peaches is gettin' a little cranky with you, boy at November 05, 2013 06:56 PM (8lmkt)
Flappawhappaschmappa
you are wrong about guns
Christy would take those in a minute
anybody know if he received any cash from Bloomberg for being a pro gun grabber?
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 06:56 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: booger at November 05, 2013 06:56 PM (xRDdL)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:57 PM (ZPrif)
PGiS, does yours "food frenzy" to the point of outright feralness whenever there is spillage?
I would love if people stopped doing politics on FB, it's a real problem for me - should be dinner party rules ...
Keep that crap on twitter where it belongs, lol ...
Posted by: Joe who has a bizarre, food-obsessed mini-Beagle at November 05, 2013 06:57 PM (aW6dO)
Why would he do that? Because he knew he would have a much tougher race with Booker in it because of identity politics
I will grant you Christy is smart. But he will not be able to do that in a general, especially if Hillary is the candidate
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 10:52 PM (zOTsN)
thunderb, for the win!
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 06:57 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 06:57 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: real joe at November 05, 2013 06:58 PM (xXhgd)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 06:58 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Xdconvert9mm at November 05, 2013 06:58 PM (ojnk6)
Wthout such controls and restrictions by the government, what would be the difference between a militia and a bandit gang?
And the biggest question, how exactly do you determine a militia, or anything else, is "well run and functioning" without an external set of standards to measure their performance, and where do these standards come from?
Posted by: Sam at November 05, 2013 10:55 PM (Eba7/)
Um. The Constitution doesn't "explicit grant Congress the power to regulate the militia."
Might want to read up on that one, speedy.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 06:59 PM (x3YFz)
You seem confused about the semantic difference between the notions of may and shall.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 06:59 PM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 06:59 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 10:58 PM (RZ8pf)
I am confused. Are you taking Nathan's or Hebrew National or are you talkin' bitchez?
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 07:00 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 07:00 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: Joe Dimaggio at November 05, 2013 07:00 PM (42AzI)
How do you overthrow an oppressive govt if they run all the militias.
Seems to me that was something the founders thought a lot about. (could find quotes but I'm lazy, Read the Federalist papers)
Posted by: The Hickster at November 05, 2013 07:00 PM (MVBSu)
anything else, is "well run and functioning" without an external set of
standards to measure their performance, and where do these standards
come from?
Posted by: Sam at November 05, 2013 10:55 PM (Eba7/)
There's these things called "laws" and if in the course of you owning a gun, you use said gun in the course of breaking an aforementioned "law." Your ass goes to prison. So there's that.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:01 PM (x3YFz)
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Give me the Christie vs Booker poll then because I'm sure it was the other way around.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 07:01 PM (1FgrF)
With all due respect, Crist-ie can fuck off. I'll stay home and crochet on Election Day if he's nominated.
Name the moonbat opponent of your choice. Hillary? I'm staying home. Slow Joe? Staying home. Mooch? Staying home. I can't be more clear about this. If Crist-ie is the nominee, I AM STAYING HOME.
Seriously, that's the signal from the establishment GOP that everyone else can just fuck off and die. I won't bother to die but I certainly will fuck off.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 07:02 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:02 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at November 05, 2013 07:02 PM (/yJ6M)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
If you're unhappy about the contents of 10 USC 311, that's a discussion to take up with your congressman. Nothing can be done about it squabbling on a blog
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 07:02 PM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: UnrealJoe at November 05, 2013 07:02 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 05, 2013 07:03 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 05, 2013 07:03 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 05, 2013 07:03 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 07:04 PM (f73Jj)
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No you wont, you're full of shit. I actually stayed home for Romney. You probably didnt. You'll vote for Meghan McCain by the time Hillary is in. "I'll stay home". lol
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 07:04 PM (1FgrF)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 11:01 PM (1FgrF)
You are such an annoying little pissant (still). Unfortunately, or otherwise known as lucky for you, NCIS is on and I'm gonna be a little distracted. Still, you got a lot to learn, kid. And something tells me it's all gonna be school of hard knocks. My alma mater, btw.
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 07:05 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 07:05 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2013 07:06 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: mindful webworker - got rhyming dictionary? at November 05, 2013 07:06 PM (U13jb)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
If you're unhappy about the contents of 10 USC 311, that's a discussion to take up with your congressman. Nothing can be done about it squabbling on a blog
Posted by: Purp at November 05, 2013 11:02 PM (fZ2Zr)
1) This blog ain't for "squabbling?" Well what the fuck is it for, then?
2) No reference to arms or which arms said militia can own or acquire (obviously the code ducks the 2d)
3) I'm not under 45, so... fuck everyone. I'm Cowboy, baby.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:07 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Chris Christie (R-Krispy Kreme) at November 05, 2013 07:07 PM (oFCZn)
Fappamappawhappa
You go ask Christy for the poll. He was the one anxious to get Booker out of the way, his way
do you seriously think minorities in other states would vote for him over Hillary, or frankly any dem? You go look up the demographics on that. Black voters vote democrat at least 80 per cent of the time, and that was before Obama
Christy will not get minority support in a general
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 07:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:08 PM (x3YFz)
logprof, I'm told the VA numbers are not close enough for recount. fwiw. I could have been misinformed.
Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 07:09 PM (f73Jj)
In VA; with no Republican support for Cucc in the this election, I am done with the Republican party.
Cucc might not have been an ideal candidate, but the man stuck his head way out with Obamacare, was twenty times better than the Clinton shyster Mac (who couldn't articulate much of anything), and still almost won despite the fact that Republicans gave him shit for help-they gave him JACK SHIT.
Purposefully want to lose the election? Fine. I'm just one man, but can play too.
Posted by: Crucible at November 05, 2013 07:09 PM (iMjoW)
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I'll be here all the way to 2016. I'm looking up Booker vs Christie polls and cant find shit. Just finding that Booker backed out because Christie was riding the Sandy high. Wasnt Cruz elected like last year too?
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 07:09 PM (1FgrF)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 07:10 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 10:52 PM (1FgrF)
I hereby nominate Flapjackmaka for Horde Rush Chairman, director of Moron Community Outreach, as well as treasurer of the AoSHQ Dale Carnegie charity fund.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 05, 2013 07:11 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:11 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 07:12 PM (ZPrif)
Governor Christie is well-positioned against potential opponents if he seeks re-election next year, but Newark Mayor Cory Booker would make it a race, according to a Qunnipiac University poll released today.
from 2012
Booker also has not said if he will run, but he reached out to party leaders from around the state at the Democratic National Convention last month to lay a foundation if he does enter the race. He also has a national fund-raising operation that could compete with the amounts Christie could raise, and is seen as a favorite of Washington Democrats who might want to see Christie defeated.
happy Fuppawhoopascmoopa
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 07:12 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 05, 2013 07:12 PM (vgd4f)
OK, speaking of silly names, we had local election here today, mail in ballot only, which, of course, means voting for people I have never heard of ...
There was a silly tax amendment, basically the teacher's union campaigning to put my gold in their pockets codified into state constitution, so that was easy choice. "Reform" fiscal conservative group put up slate of school board candidates who had been called out by an 2nd hand acquaintance retired school teacher on FB as "dangerous extremists", so that was easy too once I identified the names ...
Last remaining race was for City Council Ward in my wanna-be prog suburb - a Dan Smith, with no background to speak of, vs a middle aged white woman named "Shakti", I shit you not ... easy choice there ... that was what was on the ballot - one name - Shakti ... her proudest accomplishment was being on some kind of diversity committee ...
Posted by: Joe who can't stand boomers who affect other cultures at November 05, 2013 07:13 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 07:13 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:13 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 05, 2013 07:13 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Cowboy at November 05, 2013 07:15 PM (f73Jj)
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 11:08 PM (x3YFz)
Yeah, baby!!!
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 07:15 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 07:16 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: Boone at November 05, 2013 07:16 PM (tIyK2)
But 2A doesn't restrict my right to own a fully automatic rifle nor does it give congress the power to regulate which weapons I can own.
If it did, it would have said "...a militia well regulated by congress..." but it doesn't.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:16 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 05, 2013 07:16 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:17 PM (xHFxB)
Anyone that thinks Christy won't get the full John "Maverick" McCain treatment or the Mitt "severe conservative" Romney treatment by the full court press mainstream media in the 2016 election is a fucking idiot...
The media has consistently painted left of center republicans (that they just love to have on Sunday morning tv talkshows to bash fellow republicans) as extreme conservatives in elections for the past 20-30 years. If you haven't wised up to this fact yet there ain't no hope for ya...
... the only chance is of course to run a man or woman that actually fights this narrative not embraces it at every turn and to support this man or woman to the hilt with every means available. This is something that establishment republicans can't seem to grasp.
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at November 05, 2013 07:17 PM (D/wbi)
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 07:17 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 05, 2013 07:18 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 11:12 PM (zOTsN)
No. Where are the numbers and the link? It being a race for Christie is great seeing how popular Booker is.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 07:18 PM (1FgrF)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:18 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 05, 2013 07:19 PM (ZPrif)
Are you people for real? Are you for real ready for the bullshit? Better get some vets, at least they're use to backbiting fucking horseshit.
The real shit is people would rather be lied to until they are fucking ruined, unless you give them a fox to chase.
Posted by: flashoverride at November 05, 2013 07:19 PM (lP+VW)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 11:17 PM (xHFxB)
Cubs?
Posted by: Peaches at November 05, 2013 07:19 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 05, 2013 07:19 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Bazooka Joe at November 05, 2013 07:19 PM (42AzI)
GET THE RINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's like being tackled by pissed off rabid armoured trucks.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 05, 2013 07:20 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 07:20 PM (aDwsi)
It's evolved to that, but, that's not their place.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:20 PM (x3YFz)
Or the Chip and Dale Apple core fund.
(crap can't find just the apple core bit just whole cartoon)
Posted by: The Hickster at November 05, 2013 07:21 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 05, 2013 07:21 PM (oFCZn)
There are private, legally owned tanks, artillery pieces, machine guns, rockets launchers, and fighter planes. There's nothing in current Federal arms law that would prevent private ownership of large surface combatants either.
The only thing current ATF enforced Federal law punts on explicitly is WMD like NBC weapons. There's explicit language directing you to check with DOE regarding nuclear weapons.
Last time I read the Federal arms law cover to cover, it was silent on bio/chem-weapons, but that was a while ago
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 07:22 PM (fZ2Zr)
A hypothetical faceoff between Newark Mayor Cory Booker and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is tightening, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.
Christie, the popular Republican governor, has a 4-percentage-point edge over Booker, a Democrat, in a possible matchup in next yearÂ’s gubernatorial race. ChristieÂ’s lead of 46 percent to 42 percent has narrowed from a 7-point edge in a September poll, The Wall Street Journal reported
from politico
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 07:23 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 10:42 PM (4BA+Y)
You are free to remove the tag from your mattress with impunity.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 05, 2013 07:24 PM (H0R/1)
GET THE RINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's like being tackled by pissed off rabid armoured trucks.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 05, 2013 11:20 PM (JawqV)
Modern day version of "Smear the Queer?"
I know that term sends up red flags and flares today, but 30 years ago it was just throw the football up and the poor bastard that caught it ran for his life. It was no more, no less.
Insensitive? Who gives a shit. Get over it. No one walked off that football field wanting to beat up a gay guy. It was just smear the queer. We didn't even know what gay was. We just group tackeled the guy with the ball and the one who took it away got to throw it in the air again and we all ran to grab it, knowing what was coming because: Fkn Fun. That's why.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:24 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 05, 2013 07:24 PM (rJiQs)
There are private, legally owned tanks, artillery pieces, machine guns, rockets launchers, and fighter planes. There's nothing in current Federal arms law that would prevent private ownership of large surface combatants either.
yes, ATF gets involved if you want ammo to use in crew served weapons like tanks, artillery etc.
Black powder cannons are unregulated at the Fed level I think
Posted by: Ruprect at November 05, 2013 07:24 PM (zvFWX)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:25 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 07:25 PM (hpgw1)
I first read that as, "The bottoms of Virgina are safe tonight."
It made me sorta jealous. Our elections in California are boring foregone conclusions that always give us more ancient weirdos and corrupt Hispanics.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at November 05, 2013 07:25 PM (1QwWe)
...wallets? Not so much...
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 07:26 PM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 07:26 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Piercello at November 05, 2013 07:27 PM (P4dpU)
four per cent a year before the election and after distributing all that Sandy moolah
yea
he wanted Booker out of the way
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 07:27 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 07:28 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:28 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 11:28 PM (LpbKr)
or listen too, if the lens is pointed away from 'the action'
Posted by: Ruprect at November 05, 2013 07:29 PM (zvFWX)
Great idea official ATF swag wont be used nefariously?
Posted by: The Hickster at November 05, 2013 07:29 PM (MVBSu)
...wallets? Not so much...
Posted by: Purp at November 05, 2013 11:26 PM (fZ2Zr)
Hah... better double check the locks on the bedrooms. Ever since the libs took control of Denver it's been the capitol of kiddie porn.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:29 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: thunderb at November 05, 2013 07:29 PM (zOTsN)
you are all pissed that a rep lost VA but also pissed that one won NJ?
wtf is wrong with all of you?
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 11:28 PM (xHFxB)
Yer actually thinking donut boy is a conservative?
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:30 PM (x3YFz)
Even that is permitted, but you have to abide by some fairly strict storage requirements regarding bunker construction, stand-off distances from inhabited areas, etc. to ensure safe storage. The storage requirements are not unreasonable. No worse than any explosive manufacturer needs to abide by.
If you live in an urban condo or the burbs, you'd need to have your ammo storage facility elsewhere.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 05, 2013 07:30 PM (fZ2Zr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 07:31 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:31 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:32 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 07:32 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:33 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Jerec at November 05, 2013 07:33 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:34 PM (AO9UG)
Because the "rep" who won NJ is a gun-banning, Obama-kissing, Islam-embracing, federal-pork-troughing disgrace to the Republican Party.
If that shit is what the GOP now stands for, I repeat, I am going to stay home on Election Day from now on. Seriously. I can't be bothered to go vote for that. Want to win? Great. Don't count on my vote as you build your electoral models.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 07:34 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 11:32 PM (hpgw1)
What happened to having a conscience?
So you're deciding that voting for the guy that will cut your throat with a razor blade is better than voting for the one who'll cut it with a hacksaw blade are your only two choices?
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:35 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Jerec at November 05, 2013 07:35 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: AltonJackson (who is now on Twitter) at November 05, 2013 07:36 PM (JMmQ9)
Good Night All.
Posted by: The Hickster at November 05, 2013 07:36 PM (MVBSu)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 07:36 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Jerec at November 05, 2013 07:36 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 07:36 PM (LpbKr)
Anybody that is proud of staying home for Romney should be really happy with TFG, since they got the result they desired and received ...
How is tea party supposed to replace GOP when their advocates are too pure to be sullied by base politics? If only their candidates, who are routinely rejected by voters, were somehow more pure, or, is it, supported by the evil GOP, who is supposed to go away, the voters wouldn't reject them any more? The tea party started as grassroots, libertarian style politics but was co-opted by the SoCons - if you want intellectual purity, feel free to go sit in a room, all by yourself, because that's the only way to get it. In other words, leave already ... we are beholden to your unpopular views, and, then, you withhold your votes anyway ...
1) SoCon Purity
2) ??????
3) Victory!!!
Regarding the squishy suburban white women (Shaktis), they keep voting with their vaginas, and we keep getting stuck with these p*ssies ...
Posted by: Joe who is a proud RINO and can be profane, if needed at November 05, 2013 07:36 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:37 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: automatic skip at November 05, 2013 07:37 PM (Q6+8W)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 11:33 PM (xHFxB)
No. Sorry Navy Guy.
I'm a wingnut. I'll take the fight to the enemy. I'm not a fan of airbase ground defense.
Asymmetric warfare.
You can just take slightly increasing boots to your arse if you'd like. Me? I prefer wearing the boot.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:38 PM (x3YFz)
cracks me up, every time
Sadly, it's usually the funniest thing I post in a given day.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 05, 2013 07:38 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 07:38 PM (LpbKr)
2) ??????
3) Victory!!!
Regarding the squishy suburban white women (Shaktis), they keep voting with their vaginas, and we keep getting stuck with these p*ssies ...
Posted by: Joe who is a proud RINO and can be profane, if needed at November 05, 2013 11:36 PM (aW6dO)
Let me revise that for you:
1) Citizens who want freedom from oppression
2) No GOP topcover
3) Pissed
And what non pussies would you like us to be stuck with? Name 2. G'head. Waiting.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:41 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Jerec at November 05, 2013 07:41 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 07:41 PM (346rt)
Posted by: AltonJackson (who is now on Twitter) at November 05, 2013 07:41 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:42 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 07:42 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Jerec at November 05, 2013 07:42 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 05, 2013 07:43 PM (vgd4f)
Moderate positions such as tearfully embracing and talking up Barack Obama on the eve of the pivotal 2012 election.
If that's a "moderate position", talk to my answering machine about it.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 07:44 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 11:29 PM (x3YFz)
That reminds me that Aaron Rodgers is injured! Life is good.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 07:44 PM (1FgrF)
And an Ewok shall lead them.
Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 11:41 PM (346rt)
Now THAT is what I'm talking about.
Pound them.
If you paused reading that, consider this: would they (the GOP or the Dems) give you the same pause? Nope. Pound them.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:44 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 07:44 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Jerec at November 05, 2013 07:45 PM (8HhF2)
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Yeah, because Mittens was definetely going to win without that.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 05, 2013 07:45 PM (1FgrF)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:46 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 07:46 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:47 PM (xHFxB)
Thank you for the kind words.
Now, in keeping with the apparent theme of tonight's comments: RINO!
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 05, 2013 07:47 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 05, 2013 07:47 PM (jucos)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 11:42 PM (xHFxB)
You wanna talk shit and go big kid? Fine.
Ace has my permission to send you my e-mail.
I will actively oppose your efforts, since you're such a dick. What state and district, speedy? Fuck knows I've already openly said where I live here. Shit I've had AoS folks show up at my work.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:48 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 05, 2013 07:48 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:48 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Cal at November 05, 2013 07:49 PM (0t2dd)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 07:50 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 05, 2013 07:50 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 07:50 PM (346rt)
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 07:51 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:51 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:51 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 07:51 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 07:51 PM (dfYL9)
Synova adds a good point about the sentence construction.
I'll just add that the Heller decision was a 5-4 vote; our right to bear arms is a very fragile thing based on that number.
Because if you think the Progs have given up, you ain't thinking.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 05, 2013 07:52 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:53 PM (AO9UG)
this kind of purity shit is why we will have a president hillary
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 11:51 PM (xHFxB)
Perfectly sober. Send Ace that e-mail. I'll preemptively send him one to let him know it's just fine with me if you get in touch with me.
What state and what district? Again?
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:53 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 05, 2013 07:54 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 07:54 PM (v6hyJ)
Ace has my permission to send you my e-mail.
I will actively oppose your efforts, since you're such a dick. What state and district, speedy? Fuck knows I've already openly said where I live here. Shit I've had AoS folks show up at my work.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 11:48 PM (x3YFz)
Uh tangonine - you're twigging my Bl@zer meter. And that's not a good thing.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 05, 2013 07:55 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:55 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 07:55 PM (xz0nG)
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 07:55 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 05, 2013 07:55 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 07:56 PM (346rt)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 07:57 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 07:57 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:57 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 05, 2013 11:55 PM (XkotV)
can we trade a few "to be named later" commentators for the return of Bl@zer?
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 07:57 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 05, 2013 11:55 PM (XkotV)
Reigning in the testosterone. I DID offer to take it offline with Navy. Gotta give me that.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 07:57 PM (x3YFz)
hey dude, did you start CODghosts?
or anyone for that matter?
must be good, haven't seen nck for a few hours
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 11:57 PM (xHFxB)
nope, I'm not picking it up. I've heard way too many horror stories on how unoptimized it is
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 07:58 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 07:59 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 07:59 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 05, 2013 07:59 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: AltonJackson (who is now on Twitter) at November 05, 2013 08:00 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: BigZesty at November 05, 2013 08:00 PM (1Ecsf)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 08:00 PM (xz0nG)
Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 08:00 PM (346rt)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 11:59 PM (xHFxB)
well, it apparently chugs on two Titans
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 08:01 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at November 05, 2013 08:01 PM (hpgw1)
Dude, you know I'm a friend. Back down, take a walk. Don't get tossed.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 11:57 PM (GEICT)
I can't risk breaking a 12 year record on AoS without ever getting a time out and certainly not for this. Even keel in steady seas. 5 degrees down bubble make your depth 70 meters.
Posted by: GOFY-CRUZ2016 at November 05, 2013 08:01 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 08:01 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 11:57 PM (vJdyz)
Well if we could stipulate the sub-0.10% BAC Bl@zer perhaps...
But when the ewok curses your name, well that bridge is pretty much burned.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 05, 2013 08:02 PM (XkotV)
Well, goofy cruz, I would be happy to vote for whomever is the nominee, and it's a little early to tell who will be running. We have problems with getting good candidates, across the board. By the time the primaries reach my state, fait accompli ... but since all that matters is our quadrennial choice for temporary king, I will try to address your question.
I would be happy to support Cruz over Christie in a primary, if it came to that, I think Cruz is a pretty awesome candidate - smart, understands the constitution and the republic, Hispanic appeal, etc. I am still peeved at Christie for the post-Sandy hugging of TFG, since I believe that's what pretty much finally swung the election, but if he is nominee I will proudly vote for him - that's politics - you build a coalition and get as much as you can get while yielding as little as possible to achieve victory. It will be better then voting for weasel McCain for sure!
Regardless, if we are wedged with unpopular social issues by Dems again, we will lose again. Purity over politics means you always lose the politics, because success requires compromises. If your goal is purity, you will get it, and, you will be alone in the wilderness ...
The oddly difficult to follow and attacking nature of your attempt to put me on the spot today for declaration of sides and a preferred candidate for an election three years from now, kinda makes my point ...
Posted by: Joe who rambles at November 05, 2013 08:02 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 11:42 PM (xHFxB)
You seem to be labouring under the misconception that this is a Republican board. It's not; it's primarily a conservative board. Even as a Canadian, I can see that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 05, 2013 08:02 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 08:03 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: PaleRider at November 05, 2013 08:03 PM (m+nIW)
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 06, 2013 12:02 AM (XkotV)
well, if we can't have him drunk then there sadly isn't much use for him
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 08:03 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Ummberto Echo at November 05, 2013 08:04 PM (346rt)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 08:04 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 08:05 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 08:06 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: PaleRider at November 06, 2013 12:03 AM (m+nIW)
Aye. We take those wins where we can get them
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:06 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 08:06 PM (vJdyz)
turns out he's a democrat. who coulda guessed that? Almost as if the media doesn't want anyone to know democrats run us. Wonder why that is.
Doesn't matter anyway the media tells us, because of that evil republican gov who appointed an illegal emergency manager to bankrupt the city.
So keep voting democrat, it's the only way to get us to where we're going faster.
ciao, yo momma
Posted by: Detroit! at November 05, 2013 08:06 PM (6J0hX)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 08:06 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 08:07 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: AltonJackson (who is now on Twitter) at November 05, 2013 08:08 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 05, 2013 08:09 PM (Z9EHQ)
was there ever a sub-0.10% BAC Bl@zer?
it was the 0.30% BAC Bl@zer that got damned to internet hell
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 06, 2013 12:04 AM (xHFxB)
Well see I figure being just drunk enough to get a DUI yet not so drunk you couldn't operate a motor vehicle if challenged is the sweet spot for a large number of morons. :-)
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 05, 2013 08:09 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 08:09 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 08:09 PM (DmNpO)
tango, my bad if I got you going
we'll chat manana about the damn airforce
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 06, 2013 12:06 AM (xHFxB)
We can steady up. A good Sailor vs. Airman fight is good for the blood.
As long as we're both together laughing while the SPs haul us off afterward, it's worth every bit of it.
We'll disagree more later lol.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:10 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 08:11 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Mindy at November 05, 2013 08:13 PM (ZrNcx)
All y'all RINO smashers, who simultaneously declare to be the last word on what constitutes a "real" Republican, but, then don't vote for Republican candidates, or, desire for the GOP to succeed, aren't really Republicans, in name or otherwise, so stop applying your purity tests to those of us who are, which you have no authority for anyhoo ...
Intellectual inconsistency much?
Posted by: Joe who reads all the comments and is always late to thread at November 05, 2013 08:14 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: navycopjoe drunk on GB tears YUMMY!! at November 05, 2013 08:15 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 08:15 PM (vJdyz)
People can organize parties and rallies and lie to each other, make speeches full of lies, and then lie about being there.
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 11:59 PM (AO9UG)
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actually that is a pretty good idea. make it like talk like a pirate day only with more snark.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 08:15 PM (PlzOe)
Current proposed date for the Colorado Morondezvous is mid-day Dec 14 in Denver, although I haven't seen RightlySouthern to run it by him yet.
Does that sound like it would work for you? I'd love it if you and your lovely wife could come.
Also, how would you like to be kept up-to-date on the plans as they unfold? Finding you on the threads is kinda hit-or-miss. I'm in the Yahoo group.
Posted by: Mindy at November 06, 2013 12:13 AM (ZrNcx)
just don't scroll up.
But I think finals are done then so that works for me.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:15 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Joe who reads all the comments and is always late to thread at November 05, 2013 08:15 PM (aW6dO)
Roger that.
The best summation of New Jersey I've heard is that it's a state where one of its two Senators is 45 years old and still has imaginary friends, and the other of the two Senators likes to fuck underage Dominican hookers.
Do not assume that what works in Jersey politically will work anywhere outside.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 08:15 PM (gqT4g)
Then there was the recall of gun-grabbers.
Colorado isn't dead yet.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 05, 2013 08:16 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 08:16 PM (xz0nG)
what if one is not a Repub but still wants to scatter their ashes to the four corners so they will never resurrect?
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 08:16 PM (vJdyz)
The lemon tree fell off in production a bit. It has about 300 lemons on it, down from 500+ last year. Do you know how hard it is to give away 500 lemons?
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 05, 2013 08:16 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Piercello at November 05, 2013 08:16 PM (P4dpU)
Posted by: Mindy at November 05, 2013 08:17 PM (ZrNcx)
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2013 08:18 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 08:18 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 08:18 PM (aDwsi)
I would like moron meetup for sure ... I would love to meet some of the folk here ...
Posted by: Joe who is in Colorado at November 05, 2013 08:20 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2013 08:21 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 08:21 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: Mindy at November 05, 2013 08:21 PM (ZrNcx)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 08:21 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: RWC at November 05, 2013 08:22 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 08:22 PM (vJdyz)
Mr. Green turned into a stalker it seems. Husband closes door on guy. Guy breaks down door and keeps advancing. So husband shoots guy. Twice because he kept advancing.
So Maryland is charging the husband with 2d degree murder.
http://tinyurl.com/k4ygs3s
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 05, 2013 08:22 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 08:24 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 08:24 PM (xz0nG)
I will be great to see you.
Would you be wiling to pass along info to your Colorado moron contacts? I don't have info for Nash Rambler, for example.Posted by: Mindy at November 05, 2013 08:24 PM (ZrNcx)
http://tinyurl.com/k4ygs3s
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 12:22 AM (JA4pL)
and.... that's why sane people don't live in Maryland.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:24 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 08:27 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 05, 2013 08:27 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 05, 2013 08:27 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Mindy at November 05, 2013 08:27 PM (ZrNcx)
Posted by: tangonine at November 06, 2013 12:24 AM (x3YFz)
why would anyone live in Maryland?
Top 5 crazy states
Posted by: Ruprect at November 05, 2013 08:27 PM (zvFWX)
Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2013 12:27 AM (vJdyz)
Did she? I totally missed that as a kid. Bloody hell. Think I was bewb focused.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:28 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Ruprect at November 06, 2013 12:27 AM (zvFWX)
CT is right behind or before it.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:29 PM (x3YFz)
OH! You said "ladies".
Nevermind.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2013 12:11 AM (DmNpO)
I thought you were more properly defined as a "wench".
Posted by: Colorado Alex at November 05, 2013 08:29 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 08:29 PM (aDwsi)
We should have National Obama Lied Day.
People can organize parties and rallies and lie to each other, make speeches full of lies, and then lie about being there.
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 11:59 PM (AO9UG)
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actually that is a pretty good idea. make it like talk like a pirate day only with more snark.
Posted by: jc at November 06, 2013 12:15 AM (PlzOe)
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If you don't mind I would like to slightly modify your suggestion and call it "Lie Like Obama Day."
It would be like April Fools Day on steroids. Everyone would have an obligation to lie all day.
One could end every single utterance all day with "period" no matter how nonsensical it makes the statement or question. For example, "honey, where's the toilet paper?, period." Or when a sales clerk sez "Have a nice day" one could respond with "Have a nice day period."
The sillier the day gets the better. Once the mockery reaches bone marrow level there will be much rejoicing except by the popular people's front.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 08:29 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 05, 2013 08:30 PM (vgd4f)
No incidence of feudalistic statism from that shithole will ever surprise me.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 08:30 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 05, 2013 08:31 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: tangonine at November 06, 2013 12:28 AM (x3YFz)
http://bit.ly/1aDZmje
Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2013 12:30 AM (vJdyz)
I.... I got nuthin'
That had to be photoshopped.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:32 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 08:32 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: GnuBreed
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great in the garbage disposal just to freshen up the kitchen.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 08:32 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 08:33 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 08:33 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2013 12:32 AM (vJdyz)
No wonder dad wouldn't let us stay up to watch wonderwoman.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:34 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 05, 2013 08:34 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 05, 2013 08:34 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 08:34 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: AltonJackson (who is now on Twitter) at November 05, 2013 08:34 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 08:34 PM (d7tB2)
Understand weft, and your point is well stated. I guess my response would be that you have a better shot at getting what you want by supporting those who you agree with in a greater amount then those that you don't, as a whole, and withholding votes, or supporting third parties, which is absolutely your right, tends to support those whom with you disagree more ...
In a two party system such as ours, which is due to the winner take all structure of our federal system, the role of third parties is to pull the larger ones around in the overlapping bell curves that constitute our voters. Yes, parties change, and maybe it is time they should, as I am disenchanted myself, but still enfranchised with no intent of giving that up ...
Dude, at least you are consistent, keep abiding ...
Proud that Colorado is still purple, worried about secession movement breaking up my beloved home state.
Posted by: Joe who is in Colorado at November 05, 2013 08:34 PM (aW6dO)
Of the 11 items I voted on in my Colorado Ballot, 3 went the way I voted. Luckily 66 was one of those.
(I live in Boulder so that's a pretty high percentage for me.)
Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at November 05, 2013 08:34 PM (U0t2o)
You may want to hide your Val-U-Rite now.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 05, 2013 08:35 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 08:35 PM (DmNpO)
It was the arrogant bastards along the 36 and i-70 who did that, not the secessionists.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 05, 2013 08:36 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:37 PM (x3YFz)
I found a lady that is coming to get this year's crop. She's going to make some lemon pepper jelly and a few other things; I'll get a portion. All my friends and relatives nearby have quarts of lemon juice from previous years. So do I. I burned out one electric juicer already.
Southern MS has a marginal climate for citrus. One nearby area is known as Orange Grove, but I doubt you can find a single orange tree there any more. One hard freeze can kill the tree. The lemon tree, in fact, got real sick one winter and half of it came close to dying.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 05, 2013 08:37 PM (wNF3N)
PVC, Cap, glue, drill + wd40 and a long BBQ lighter
Posted by: Jean
--------------------
Necessary in the never-ending war on scurvy. Posted by: Mike Hammer
Always bring your own organic fire support.
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 08:38 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 08:39 PM (Vk2pI)
Of the 11 items I voted on in my Colorado Ballot, 3 went the way I voted. Luckily 66 was one of those.
(I live in Boulder so that's a pretty high percentage for me.)
Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at November 06, 2013 12:34 AM (U0t2o)
Yeah, the fracking = free money thing totally avoided the hippies up there, but we're all glad 66 failed. Take your wins where you can get them.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:39 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2013 08:40 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 05, 2013 08:40 PM (vgd4f)
great in the garbage disposal just to freshen up the kitchen.
Posted by: jc
Nice, I will do that at first light to wake up the kids
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2013 08:40 PM (CMlD4)
A growing number of cops want to be the only people allowed to have guns, makes it easier to kill civilian targets without concern they'll be fired upon. Most cops nowadays love the power trip and nothing is so rewarding as watching the fear in a citizens face when pointing that weapon and screaming at them to get on the ground
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2013 08:40 PM (aTXUx)
http://tinyurl.com/ouaufnx
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 05, 2013 08:40 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: eman at November 05, 2013 08:40 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Mindy at November 05, 2013 08:42 PM (ZrNcx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 05, 2013 08:42 PM (JA4pL)
I'd like for them to succeed in forming a new state, so that similar efforts in other states, particularly California, New York and Pennsylvania, will have an improved chance of success.
Congratulations on taking that first step to independence, Northern Colorado! Best of luck to you in becoming an independent state!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 08:42 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 06, 2013 12:40 AM (xHFxB)
still locked out of my itunes account. Been going on two years now of I can't remember how tango+ohyeah+youcantseeme works into a password.
Like $1200 of music just gone.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:42 PM (x3YFz)
Friend grew up on a farm.
Family kept pigs and had a lemon orchard. Pigs devoured the excess lemons.
Lines out the door for the pork.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 08:42 PM (gqT4g)
I tried to get into yahoo group last year when I saw talk of meetup but I don't think I was approved or something, I will try again ...
That Jaimie Alexander would make a fine WW, gawd I loved that show ...
Blair? I think the correct term of art is "schwing"
Posted by: Joe who will always clench around cops, but, is afraid now of clenching around cops at November 05, 2013 08:43 PM (aW6dO)
To be fair, the City of Boulder initiative was a moratorium on fracking on city owned OPEN SPACE. You could pass a law in Boulder mandating weekly killing of baby kittens on pay-per-view if the proceeds went to OPEN SPACE.
Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at November 05, 2013 08:44 PM (U0t2o)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 08:44 PM (7KZod)
I like it -- Lie Like TFG Day. What a way to piss off an endless number of liberals. I'm in!
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 05, 2013 08:44 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2013 12:07 AM (DmNpO)
I'm here, trying to catch up on the thread. Was kind of busy, had to shut the process down due to leak.
HTH does a z in the middle of a word spike a spam filter?
Posted by: PMRich at November 05, 2013 08:45 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: RovingCopyEditor at November 05, 2013 08:45 PM (vRdWg)
The booze flows here like the tears of a Searchlight Nevada teenage boyÂ…
Hey, TPH, I solved my question from the other night by booking close to the venue. Practically guarantees a mugging.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 05, 2013 08:46 PM (JawqV)
A growing number of cops want to be the only people allowed to have guns, makes it easier to kill civilian targets without concern they'll be fired upon. Most cops nowadays love the power trip and nothing is so rewarding as watching the fear in a citizens face when pointing that weapon and screaming at them to get on the ground
Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2013 12:40 AM (aTXUx)
My best friend is 28 years LE. He talks about these guys as the "been in the shit" crew. Some, sadly, are former military. Then these guys infect the never been in the military types and they all just glom together as one giant fustercluck of fail.
Quick on the trigger, half trained wannabes with a badge and a gun.
It's a problem. A big one.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:47 PM (x3YFz)
I still don't know what the fuck the governor of Wyoming was thinking when he told the northern Colorado counties to go pound sand, that he had no interest in annexing them.
Talk about creating an energy superpower state! A giant missed opportunity.
Note also with regard to northern California secessionism, that you have to lump in southern Oregon. Look up the "State of Jefferson" some time. There is some history and tradition which must be respected.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 08:47 PM (gqT4g)
Anna, interesting. But I doubt they were in it commercially as was once the case in Orange Grove. It takes about 5-6 years for the trees to begin bearing significant fruit; a hard freeze comes along every 5-6 years here so I imagine it happens a lot more frequently in Natchez.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 05, 2013 08:50 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 08:50 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 08:50 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 08:51 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: tangonine at November 06, 2013 12:47 AM (x3YFz)
yep cops are supposed to be cops
and soldiers are supposed to be soldiers
the problems start when one does the others job
Posted by: Ruprect at November 05, 2013 08:53 PM (zvFWX)
Yes, RCE. I'm game for a meetup, if the stars line up correctly.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 05, 2013 08:53 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Joe Clenchapottamus at November 05, 2013 08:54 PM (aW6dO)
I don't know when this got started.
Decades ago, I used to get in trouble at night. Sometimes involving the police.
Then at lunch in the daytime, I would hear hand-wringing anxious urban liberals talking about what a _bad idea_ it was to have Vietnam veterans on the police force. Because they all just knew, despite not actually knowing any Vietnam vets themsleves, that those vets were all ticking time bombs of violence waiting to explode. As bullshit Hollywood movies of the era told them.
Whereas my real-world experience with genuine VN vets who had gone from green to blue was that they were awesome police officers. Not least because nothing rattled them. Totally calm in all situations.
After you have survived Khe Sanh, civilian stateside police work is a vacation.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 05, 2013 08:54 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Ruprect at November 05, 2013 08:55 PM (zvFWX)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 08:55 PM (xz0nG)
We once had a commenter with that handle who had a serious meltdown and was banned. So much so, that even the word itself was banned.
OK, got some idea from the comments above. It sure had me scratching my head.
Posted by: PMRich at November 05, 2013 08:56 PM (KDUNf)
I like it -- Lie Like TFG Day. What a way to piss off an endless number of liberals. I'm in!
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 06, 2013 12:44 AM (wNF3N)
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I wonder if the horde could actually get this started, period.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 08:56 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Ruprect at November 06, 2013 12:53 AM (zvFWX)
On one hand, soldiers don't have many places to go after you've spent 8 years hunting Taliban in the Hindu Kush.
The other side of the coin is that the existing cops should retrain that mindset. But what happens is all the guys running around wearing 5.11 pants want to play GI Joe so instead the training and mindset of kill or be killed flows the wrong way. It's reached epidemic proportions in our LE now.
Every SWAT/EST/ERT team is loaded with idiot cowboys who want to be door kickers instead of thoughtful citizens with a responsibility.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 08:57 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 08:59 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: fluffy at November 05, 2013 08:59 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Diablo, Si at November 05, 2013 09:02 PM (rCS6C)
Got a Twitter account?
Posted by: fluffy at November 06, 2013 12:59 AM (Ua6T/)
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Nope. And actually it was Eman's ideer, I just liked it enough to run with it.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 09:03 PM (PlzOe)
Where is Congress given the power to regulate the militia?
The Congress shall have Power . . .
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
Right there.
Along with powers to regulate the army and navy.
It does rather help to know the entire Constitution, and not just selective parts of it when you want to start parsing definitions.
Posted by: Sam at November 05, 2013 09:03 PM (Eba7/)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 09:03 PM (Vk2pI)
They'll have to catch me first. Which, considering my speed on land, isn't as difficult as it should be.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 05, 2013 09:08 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Joe Clenchapottamus at November 05, 2013 09:08 PM (aW6dO)
worked on getting shitfaced here in the backwaters of Loudoun County VA.
success.
good job VA, we elected a crook for a governor.
I have fucking macro class at about 9AM this am...bleary eyed and puffy faced...like a real college student.
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 09:09 PM (3yFC4)
625
Where is Congress given the power to regulate the militia?
Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power . . .
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing *******************such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States***************, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
Right there.
Along with powers to regulate the army and navy.
It does rather help to know the entire Constitution, and not just selective parts of it when you want to start parsing definitions.
Posted by: Sam at November 06, 2013 01:03 AM (Eba7/)
I'm not employed by the united states.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:10 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 05, 2013 11:10 PM (GEICT)
Put me there BC, I wouldn't feel a shot...
turning up my mechanical animals...
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 09:10 PM (3yFC4)
Posted by: fluffy at November 05, 2013 09:11 PM (Ua6T/)
does rather help to know the entire Constitution, and not just
selective parts of it when you want to start parsing definitions.
Posted by: Sam at November 06, 2013 01:03 AM (Eba7/)
Ya think? It also does rather help to read the words.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:12 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: RovingCopyEditor at November 06, 2013 12:58 AM (vRdWg)
Drinks on me if you make it to the shitty backwaters of NoVa.
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 09:13 PM (3yFC4)
Posted by: Sam at November 06, 2013 01:03 AM (Eba7/)
Because, smartass, if you take that as I think you meant it? The congress has an obligation to ARM ME.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:14 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 09:14 PM (xz0nG)
Posted by: fluffy at November 06, 2013 01:11 AM (Ua6T/)
are you going to get piece of the ipo? with a gs launch is should pop 2X
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 09:15 PM (3yFC4)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 06, 2013 01:14 AM (xz0nG)
He just stepped right into the bear trap. We didn't even have to use bait.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:17 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Thunderb at November 05, 2013 09:19 PM (zOTsN)
Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power . . .
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress...
In other words, even in the most pro-DC reading, the actual day-to-day running of the militias is out of Congress's grubby hands.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 09:20 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: fluffy at November 05, 2013 09:21 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 06, 2013 01:20 AM (7KZod)
Shhh. He's flopping on land mines without anyone even asking him to so just video it and let him continue.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:21 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 09:22 PM (xz0nG)
#636: And let's not forget...
Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power . . .
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress...
In other words, even in the most pro-DC reading, the actual day-to-day running of the militias is out of Congress's grubby hands.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 09:22 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: fluffy at November 06, 2013 01:21 AM (Ua6T/)
===
would it be better if it were;
#LieLikeObam,period ??
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 09:22 PM (PlzOe)
...reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers,
and the Authority of training the Militia...
In other words, even in the most pro-DC reading, the actual day-to-day running of the militias is out of Congress's grubby hands.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 09:24 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 09:24 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: I Am Sam at November 05, 2013 09:25 PM (4BA+Y)
anyone see where between 8 and 20 fighters in Syria have a brain disease only caused by cannibalism?
Posted by: Ruprect at November 05, 2013 09:26 PM (zvFWX)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 09:27 PM (DmNpO)
I look forward to your support for our Federal Firearms Provision Because the ConstErTution Act of 2013.
I'll take a FNFAL 7.62 while you're at it.
Don't cheap out on the ammo either. Something silver-tipped would be just great.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 06, 2013 01:22 AM (xz0nG)
Shoot, you beat me to it! Since we're placing orders for the Congress to arm us, I'll be needing an M-2, 40,000 rounds, an M40A5, 5 FN MK20's, 4 HK MK 23 SOCOM .45's and 20,000 rounds of ammo for each. Charge it to Obama.
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:28 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Joe Clenchapottamus at November 05, 2013 09:28 PM (aW6dO)
Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2013 09:29 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 09:29 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 09:29 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 09:32 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 09:33 PM (xz0nG)
135 What hope is there for America when, in 2013, in the midst of the Obamacare rollout debacle,Democrat Uberscum Terry McAuliffe gets elected Governor of Virginia?
Posted by: Beef at November 05, 2013 10:05 PM (XERws)
***
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. C didn't want to run the negative campaign he needed to run (not enough money, thanks RNC). We'll get it good and hard. I live in the highest per capital income county in the USA (thank you USA).
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 09:33 PM (3yFC4)
Posted by: weft cut- ConstERTOOtional mode [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 09:36 PM (xz0nG)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 09:38 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: weft cut- ConstERTOOtional mode [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 09:38 PM (xz0nG)
sigh...another leftist twit educated beyond her intelligence. Why should she be any different than the rest of them.
Evening roonz and roonettez. Did I get here in time?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 05, 2013 09:39 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 05, 2013 09:39 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 05, 2013 09:40 PM (DmNpO)
*(sways with candle ... )
Posted by: weft cut- ConstERTOOtional mode at November 06, 2013 01:38 AM (xz0nG)
hm...don't have 6.8, have 6.5x50. Close enough?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 05, 2013 09:40 PM (xa1/W)
Bring the weapons, bring the noise. Cause Yunkle Sam's paying.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 06, 2013 01:33 AM (xz0nG)
Hah! Irony in the Yunkle Sam... But for real that FN MK20 is on my X-Mas list
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:40 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 05, 2013 09:40 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 05, 2013 09:41 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 06, 2013 01:22 AM (xz0nG)
Are you going after the wolfman?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 05, 2013 09:44 PM (H0R/1)
Posted by: PMRich at November 05, 2013 09:44 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2013 01:36 AM (7OSKn)
===
Hey, Cooth. I am trying to run with Eman's idea to start an annual Lie Like Obama Day.
The idea is that people would lie about just about everything and randomly add 'period' to the end of sentences, period.
Since Fluffy was the original person that started twitter and did all the code and raised all the money and did all the advertising and brought bagels to the office every day period, he is going to start the hashtag.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 09:44 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: tangonine at November 05, 2013 09:44 PM (x3YFz)
Swedish Archbishop: Why pick Jesus over Muhammed?
http://tinyurl.com/mmg8qx6 Posted by The Political Hat
///
Interesting that it was written by a gay, American ex-pat.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2013 09:45 PM (dXh9a)
The commerce clause is another where they have mis-defined the word "regulate" which when used to "regulate" trade between the several states, meant to keep regular. some of the states had imposed duties or taxes on the other states products that were being transported through the state to a port, and this was restricting trade, so the idea was the federal government would not allow restrictions like this to keep trade "regular" or going unrestricted.
Posted by: ChillyinAlaska at November 05, 2013 09:45 PM (4Fvn0)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 06, 2013 01:39 AM (xa1/W)
Drinks on me. I'm drunk. Don't run up the tab.
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 09:48 PM (3yFC4)
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2013 09:50 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Adriane ... at November 05, 2013 09:51 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 06, 2013 01:41 AM (xa1/W)
blaring mechanical animals...the last day on earth...think I'm pissing off my neighbors...
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 09:51 PM (3yFC4)
Posted by: weft cut- ConstERTOOtional mode [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 09:54 PM (xz0nG)
Posted by: Purp at November 05, 2013 11:22 PM (fZ2Zr)
Bio/chem weapons is up in front of SC this term regarding the treaty power. Volokh has an article on Bond v US.
https://tinyurl.com/mxdmqgy
Posted by: Mustbequantum at November 05, 2013 09:56 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Mustbequantum at November 06, 2013 01:56 AM (MIKMs)
also covered by the Defense Against Weapons of Mass Destruction Act of 1996 and Antiterrorism and EDP Act of 1996
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 10:03 PM (3yFC4)
Posted by: Adriane ... at November 05, 2013 10:04 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 06, 2013 01:48 AM (3yFC4)
damn this working for a living...
NO MORE!!!!!!!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 06, 2013 01:50 AM (xHFxB)
That's enough entertainment from ncj...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 05, 2013 10:06 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: Meremortal, Low Info Mofo at November 05, 2013 10:07 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: weft cut- ConstERTOOtional mode at November 06, 2013 01:54 AM (xz0nG)
ooooh... I have a list!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 05, 2013 10:08 PM (xa1/W)
I'm more of a gas prices under Bush on postit notes kind of person ...
But I think I can make like a rug for a day ...
Posted by: Adriane ... at November 06, 2013 02:04 AM (jdRXP)
===
Well, I am rich, good looking, exceptionally humble, and a man of very few words, but I could also do it for a day, period.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 10:08 PM (PlzOe)
The Amendments to the Constitution overrule any prior wording; in case of conflict, the Amendment applies. It's the latest word, so to speak.
Now go suck an egg.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 05, 2013 10:08 PM (wNF3N)
GGE...
work nights...shift differential! You're welcome. Pours drink of choice.
I've moved onto antichrist superstar...
"i wasn't born with enough middle fingers..."
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 10:10 PM (3yFC4)
Posted by: Jane at November 05, 2013 10:10 PM (KDAAY)
I don't disagree that the snipers need training. I disagree that the police need snipers.
IMO, militarization of the police forces have led to no knock raids and people getting needlessly killed, including a few police officers. When you spend a lot of money building a super seekret elite SWAT team you start looking for excuses to use them (get your money's worth). In other words, when your only tool is a hammer...
Police forces should pay more attention to the teachings of Robert Peel and less to the teachings of Robert Rogers.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 05, 2013 10:12 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2013 10:13 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: jc at November 06, 2013 02:08 AM (PlzOe)
You too? Small world, period.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 05, 2013 10:14 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2013 10:15 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 05, 2013 10:16 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: Adriane ... at November 05, 2013 10:16 PM (jdRXP)
Republicans don't generally win in blowouts, so a phony Libertarian can, with some underhanded support from the Democrat Party, steal enough votes from the Repug to hand victory to the Democrat, no matter how much that Democrat sucks.
We need to ponder how this particular tactic can be countered. Education on the true nature of the phony Libertarian can help, but we also need to learn to counter the GOP establishment, which would ultimately rather see the worst possible liberal win over the best possible conservative.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 10:16 PM (7KZod)
Aloha!
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2013 01:36 AM (7OSKn)
===Hey, Cooth. I am trying to run with Eman's idea to start an annual Lie Like Obama Day.
The idea is that people would lie about just about everything and randomly add 'period' to the end of sentences, period.
Since Fluffy was the original person that started twitter and did all the code and raised all the money and did all the advertising and brought bagels to the office every day period, he is going to start the hashtag.
Posted by: jc at November 06, 2013 01:44 AM (PlzOe)
Sounds like a great idea for morons on Twitter.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 05, 2013 10:18 PM (7OSKn)
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 05, 2013 10:18 PM (xHFxB)
Posted by: Jane at November 06, 2013 02:10 AM (KDAAY)
He wasn't going to win.
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 10:19 PM (3yFC4)
Posted by: rich@gmu at November 05, 2013 10:22 PM (3yFC4)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 10:26 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 05, 2013 10:28 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 10:29 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at November 05, 2013 10:42 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 10:44 PM (23Kgq)
Posted by: Arbalest at November 05, 2013 10:44 PM (FlRtG)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQdaSpEeBvQ
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 10:53 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 10:57 PM (23Kgq)
- Proportions glamorous her is also reproduced rich massive and ornament of the chest and ribbon
I will attach a flower.
http://bit.ly/19Bx0UG
Posted by: The Dude at November 05, 2013 10:58 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 10:59 PM (23Kgq)
When I vote Libertarian, I make sure the candidate is actually libertarian. (Note the different uses of capital and small "el".)
It sure isn't the Virginia I grew up in (and that was Inside the Beltway), but back then, you could drive across the Key Bridge to Eagle Liquors and with an 18 y.o., get you some beer. Yeah! Then again, I was the dope who instead of doing all that pre-internet coordination to find a willing 18 y.o., would just go to Giant Food or Safeway and buy several bottles of extract of orange from the baking aisle. http://tinyurl.com/l4prbwc Never got carded and hella stronger than beer.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2013 11:00 PM (dXh9a)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 02:59 AM (23Kgq)
=== gonna have to be someone else, period. cuz I don't participate there, period.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 11:08 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 11:10 PM (23Kgq)
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at November 06, 2013 02:42 AM (r7Ddb)
Actually, getting to meet Grim, Niece Horse, the Fabulous Ellie and the neighbor pack of dogs and group of wide goats was pretty fun, too. Now that I've seen the layout, Niece Horse's plan to establish herself as Empress of the Wide Goats doesn't seem all that farfetched.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 05, 2013 11:15 PM (7OSKn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 02:57 AM (23Kgq)
people who do that are angels. its so thankless. i am sorry her kitty is sick. every time one of them is hurt or ill i am beside myself. its easier if they will let you help them. sometimes they wont. I had a very injured female who was pregnant who would come and cry and eat the food here but would not let me catch or help her. the vet i worked with came over and we both cried. But she survived. eventually she learned to trust me enough that when i returned from my sisters wedding and sat on the porch she forgot she was feral and jumped in my lap and head-bonked my chin to let me know how much she missed me.
grim reminded me that when feral cats disappear it means they are eaten by coyotes out here. She thought i came back from the dead or a very bad misadventure! Coothie met her today, we call her Lulu.
I purposely didnt follow the elections. i dont trust the results. the world has turned very dark so i have decided to turn my face towards the light and find solace in small warm things, my friends, and my farm. At the rate this is all going enjoying every little bit of happiness and committing it to memory may be what it takes to get us through what is ahead. Its not going to get any easier. But friends and small pleasures lighten the burden. I cant fix my country but i can make sure the sick old wild tom under the porch gets soft food he can eat without teeth.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at November 05, 2013 11:16 PM (r7Ddb)
you are all pissed that a rep lost VA but also pissed that one won NJ?
wtf is wrong with all of you?
I don't give a sh*t about Rs, I want limited gov't conservatives, not the same thing
Posted by: bill-o at November 05, 2013 11:16 PM (AWwDY)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2013 03:15 AM (7OSKn)
i love her Tiny Goat that you brought me. its the perfect size for meditation, when one is concentrating on ones intentions for taking over the neighborhood, and then... the WORLD! She needed a mascot, now its official.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at November 05, 2013 11:20 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 05, 2013 11:23 PM (7OSKn)
Baw! I didn't go to bed earlier when I said I was going to. I guess I owe you guys another song. Here's one of the most underrated songs of the 90s; hope you enjoy it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAUXPkx7gMI
And with that, I say good night, and I mean it this time.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 05, 2013 11:26 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: weft cut- ConstERTOOtional mode [/i] [/b] at November 05, 2013 11:28 PM (xz0nG)
to establish herself as Empress of the Wide Goats doesn't seem all that
farfetched.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2013 03:15 AM (7OSKn)
i love her Tiny Goat that you brought me. its the perfect size for meditation, when one is concentrating on ones intentions for taking over the neighborhood, and then... the WORLD! She needed a mascot, now its official.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at November 06, 2013 03:20 AM (r7Ddb)
...and that, BTW, is why she's the BH. I've been telling her "wide goat" stories as we've been traveling, and she made sure to order it to be delivered between trips so we could bring it with. I hope Grim likes what she made for him. She saw the fabric at PIQF and knew we were coming down and thought it would be a perfect project.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 05, 2013 11:31 PM (7OSKn)
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at November 05, 2013 11:32 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2013 03:31 AM (7OSKn)
he LOVED it. the fact she made it specially for him is even better. its going up on the wall in his room. Quilts are special. ones made for you are EXTRA SPECIAL
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at November 05, 2013 11:34 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 11:43 PM (23Kgq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 11:45 PM (23Kgq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 11:48 PM (23Kgq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 03:43 AM (23Kgq)
You are a good egg too, and you friend is doing the small works of God, if not the greatest ones. I think perhaps as important as any other. Pushing back the dark comes in all forms of work. i know exactly what you mean about her anguish with the sick one. Such a struggle. getting them to take the meds can sometimes be as traumatizing for the person as it is for the poor frightened, resisting and uncooperative patient. I will pray for them both. Solace, comfort, and healing. And strength. lots and lots of strength for all of us, every one...even the cats.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at November 05, 2013 11:49 PM (r7Ddb)
just because you fall for the lie "I won't do that in your mouth" do you have to fall for the lie "I didn't do that it in your mouth?"
interesting times.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 11:50 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 05, 2013 11:50 PM (4MIPA)
just because you fall for the lie "I won't do that in your mouth" do you have to fall for the lie "I didn't do that it in your mouth?"
interesting times.
Posted by: jc at November 06, 2013 03:50 AM (PlzOe)
They don't care, they're retards.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 05, 2013 11:55 PM (FMbng)
It is a difficult choice. I'm leaning towards Oklahoma, honestly. I'm hoping for some clarity soon.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 06, 2013 03:50 AM (4MIPA)
===
there are good people everywhere.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 11:56 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 05, 2013 11:57 PM (23Kgq)
just
because you fall for the lie "I won't do that in your mouth" do you
have to fall for the lie "I didn't do that it in your mouth?"
interesting times.
Posted by: jc at November 06, 2013 03:50 AM (PlzOe)
They don't care, they're retards.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 06, 2013 03:55 AM (FMbng)
==== Yeah, but you gotta admit that would take a particularly special brand of retard. We will probably need a string theorist to sort it out.
Posted by: jc at November 05, 2013 11:58 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: fastfreefall at November 06, 2013 12:04 AM (Paea3)
Two American women have developed Anti_Rape Wear. Supposed to be cut and pull resistant. With a little button combination lock.
http://www.ufunk.net/en/gadgets/culotte-anti-viol/
How to get these off your victim? Knife to throat should work. Only fools will believe these are a miracle.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 12:16 AM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 06, 2013 12:27 AM (4MIPA)
Posted by: fastfreefall at November 06, 2013 12:28 AM (Paea3)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 06, 2013 12:36 AM (4MIPA)
I do not wish to have to continue that drudgery....
... it was like going home. It made my place here feel like a foreign nation. Hard to explain.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 06, 2013 04:27 AM (4MIPA)
I think you've already explained it.
hope things work out for you.
Posted by: dDan at November 06, 2013 12:55 AM (hwYmz)
Posted by: Yogi at November 06, 2013 01:02 AM (EJAHe)
I spared the ONT my ire last evening.
The "Teahadist" candidate was outspent 25-1 running with a GOP corruption scandal being harped on and GOP butthurt sending party assets to the Clinton gang and the guy was within 2-2.5....
be a damn shame if "back the candidate" had gone both ways.
On a brighter note I am looking hard at two properties in Canada....so uh "if you like your police state you can keep your police state" is looking less and less burdensome.
Posted by: sven at November 06, 2013 01:32 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: sven at November 06, 2013 05:32 AM (9jfyN)
I only see one problem with your carefully laid scheme, and that is when America falls I believe it will be more like the fall of Rome, ushering in a dark age due to there not being another strong arm to pick up the burden of civilization, rather than the fall of Britain when America was there to carry on. We've been carrying the world for a little over a half century now, and we can probably go on for a while longer, but what happens when we are no longer able/willing to carry that weight?
And with that joyful note, it's back to the salt mines!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 06, 2013 01:50 AM (xa1/W)
That bit by Metcalf really pissed me off when my copy of G&A came in the mail last week. The 2nd amendment talks about THE MILITIA being well regulated, not guns being well regulated. The only regulations on guns that would promote the well regulation of the militia would be regulations requiring militia age males to keep and/or bear some substantial minimum of firepower. The idea that well regulation of the militia could be used to restrict the keeping and bearing of arms, when the second half of the amendment explicitly says otherwise, is grossly untenable.
Posted by: Alec Rawls at November 06, 2013 01:50 AM (kTTUz)
On a brighter note I am looking hard at two properties in Canada....
Posted by: sven at November 06, 2013 05:32 AM (9jfyN)
if you don't mind questions?
why Canada, instead of Alaska, Belize, or 170,000 (?) acres in FL (south of Tallahassee, I believe) .. (OK, money does factor).
I thought ya'll just relocated.
Are you looking for remote locations, or just other locations??
Posted by: dDan at November 06, 2013 01:58 AM (hwYmz)
Posted by: Jean at November 06, 2013 02:09 AM (CMlD4)
...ushering in a dark age due to there not being another strong arm to pick up the burden of civilization.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapterat November 06, 2013 05:50 AM (xa1/W)
can't disagree w/ the first part, but I think we'll survive the burden of civilization.
if not, ...
Posted by: dDan at November 06, 2013 02:15 AM (hwYmz)
dickheads hate cold, Canada is a sovereign nation with a decent history on human rights....
and I dream of it when I close my eyes and have for about 38 of my 41 years.
Posted by: sven at November 06, 2013 02:36 AM (9jfyN)
Heh they're calming down on the star chamber front Jean...what can I say there are no good answers, I used to say "well I guess we'll just have to win here" but it seems to me there is no place for moderately pro-life Fi Cons who grasp you need soft SoCon ideals to make FiConnery sellable....
I'm out of answers bud I just want there to be future 10077 denizens.
Posted by: sven at November 06, 2013 02:42 AM (9jfyN)
...dickheads hate cold, ...
Posted by: sven at November 06, 2013 06:36 AM (9jfyN)
count me as a dickhead then, 'cause I hate the cold too.
i also have a place i've dreamed of for about as long as you. Maybe we can get there.
Posted by: dDan at November 06, 2013 02:57 AM (hwYmz)
The destruction of the Progressive-Conservative party in the 80's turned out to be a good thing in the long run...the Liberals had a clear field for a long time but the Conservatives finally got rid of the 'Progressive' and started acting more sensible.
Our medicare system isn't as shiny as the American one has been the last couple of decades, but it's also not as bad as you hear the British one being. I went into the hospital with a blood clot in my lung last year...they saved me
Posted by: CanaDave at November 06, 2013 02:58 AM (xP5dz)
Posted by: dDan at November 06, 2013 06:57 AM (hwYmz)
to: Sven
actually, I have the place, I just can't get here yet.
Posted by: dDan at November 06, 2013 03:00 AM (hwYmz)
Posted by: eman at November 06, 2013 07:05 AM (AO9UG)
is this a lie?
Posted by: dDan at November 06, 2013 03:11 AM (hwYmz)
Posted by: perturbed at November 06, 2013 05:29 AM (TXq4O)
All other arguments that do not address this fact concerning the intent of the writers of the 2nd amendment and bill of rights are mere distractions that do not address this central point. IOW it does not matter what the common definition of "regulated" means now as compared to then because the second part of the amendment clearly and unequivocally states that "the right of the people to bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Period! And it doesn't take a Constitutional expert to understand that. Do not fall for the distractions as the foolish editor of Guns & Ammo did which will certainly dearly cost his publication in cancellations.
Posted by: Rob H at November 06, 2013 06:13 AM (qx1UM)
People want words to mean what they want them to mean. Definitions of words and the intent of the Founders don't really count with such folks.
Sophistry. It's a mental disease, not a philosophy.
The Americans who always chant 'shall not be infringed,' have a better clue than most wrt the Second Amendment. Because that was the intent of the Founders. Yes, the original intent was that every comminutiy, from villages to cities were to have their own 'well-regulated' militia - separate from, and not affiliated with - the US military. That meant getting going to drills and training under a local commandant. The only exceptions were those men who were too old or too young or those who held positions within the community that were critical to the community, e.g. trash collection and utilities.
It also meant buying and maintaining your own uniforms, weapons and gear, unless you were unable to afford them. Then, the city or village bought them for you. Those weapons and gear were also to be kept in your homes - in addition to your personal weapons, if any.
It also meant that every village and town had their own armories, however large or small or well-stocked. Those armories were not subject to state or federal regulations or control.
Constitutional construction. Get some.
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 06, 2013 06:48 AM (klGLB)
And one other little question to top it off. How can you or anyone else claim that the 2nd amendment alone in the Bill of Rights actually restricts the right of the individual citizen? The Bill of Rights in context lays out its intent right in the document where it says:
"THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution."
The Bill was written to restrict or limit federal power not that of individuals or the states and yet it appears that only in the case of the 2nd amendment is there an argument that it somehow limits an individual right? How is this so in the context of the documents stated intent? And where else in the Bill of Rights found a restriction limiting of the rights of the states or the individual that would support the argument that the 2nd amendment does stipulate such a restriction?
Sophistry? Yea some folks who want to read into a document restrictions that clearly are not that are masters at it.
Posted by: Rob H at November 06, 2013 07:37 AM (qx1UM)
And thus the US Code even provides or an unregulated militia:
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all
able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as
provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who
are, or who have made a declaration of intention to
become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens
of the United States who are members of the National Guard. (b) The classes of the militia are - (1) the organized militia, which consists of the
National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the
members of the militia who are not members of the
National Guard or theNaval Militia.
How can a militia be "regulated" as some define the word to
now when it is not even "organized"?
Posted by: Rob H at November 06, 2013 07:59 AM (qx1UM)
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