December 15, 2013
— Maetenloch
Why the Arapahoe School Shooting Ended So Quickly
Because there was an armed deputy sheriff at the school who raced towards the shooting and ended the attack in just 80 seconds. Thanks to his quick response only one student (still in critical condition) was shot.
The rampage might have resulted in many more casualties had it not been for the quick response of a deputy sheriff who was working as a school resource officer at the school, Robinson said.Once he learned of the threat, he ran - accompanied by an unarmed school security officer and two administrators - from the cafeteria to the library, Robinson said. "It's a fairly long hallway, but the deputy sheriff got there very quickly."
He praised the deputy's response as "a critical element to the shooter's decision" to kill himself, and lauded his response to hearing gunshots. "He went to the thunder," he said. "He heard the noise of gunshot and, when many would run away from it, he ran toward it to make other people safe."
The deputy was yelling for people to get down and identified himself as a county deputy sheriff, Robinson said. "We know for a fact that the shooter knew that the deputy was in the immediate area and, while the deputy was containing the shooter, the shooter took his own life."
The shooter who was 18 apparently bought the shotgun legally and it turns out that he was an avowed socialist who was also anti-gun. But you'd never learn this fact if you only listened to the self-censoring MFM.
If You Like Your Checking Account, You Can Keep Your Checking Account (Minus a Lot of Money)
Giving the government direct access to your bank account via ObamaCare is going about as well as you'd expect.
Shannon Bruner of Indianola logged on to her checking account Monday morning, and found she was almost 800 dollars in the negative."The first thing I thought was, 'I got screwed,'" she said.
The Bruners enrolled for insurance on the Washington Healthplanfinder website, last October. They say they selected the bill pay date to be December 24th. Instead the Washington Healthplanfinder drafted the 835 dollar premium Monday.
One viewer emailed KING 5 saying, "They drafted my account this morning for a second time."
Do you have the right to know your own genetic code? The FDA says no - and wants to regulate genetic testing.
The people of Detroit pretty much - who kept electing governments that paid out 13 monthly checks per year even though only 12 were budgeted and who guaranteed city workers a high return on their savings no matter what.
Most press accounts note that city-worker pensions in Detroit are modest. They rarely mention that, for two decades, the city supplemented those pensions with annual, so-called "13th checks" for retirees-an additional monthly pension payment. Pension-fund trustees-themselves city workers, retirees, city residents, and elected officials-handed out nearly $1 billion in these annual payments to retirees in the city's general pension fund.
...In 2009, for instance, the pension system gave workers a 7.5 percent return on their savings, even though pension assets slumped by 24 percent. In its report, Conway MacKenzie called such payments "an abuse of discretion" and noted that the trustees, who determined the yearly guaranteed return, were "effectively robbing (the General pension fund) of precious funds necessary to support the traditional pensions the city had promised."
So to help keep that risk at bay, the man has spotlights all over his home and garage, he as a security system, you have to get through one screen door just to reach his fortified front door. He has two watch dogs and bars on every window and he has his dummies.
"A car will come by and they pick my place because I keep it nice. They'll slow down, see the dummies and take off. They come back around and look again. Eventually if they figure out they are dummies they are also figuring out that now they're being watched. They keep moving. They don't stop," he said. "What's behind those dummies? You have to ask that. If you get past the lights, alarm, dogs, doors and dummies, then you have another problem, you have to deal with me. My home is my castle."
Well it seemed to work for the Omega Man.
It's not looking good for the A-10. Despite its usefulness and effectiveness the USAF has never been fond of the plane and has long hoped to replace it with something sexier.
So why retire such a valuable aircraft? The answer is rooted in the world of shrinking budgets and service rivalries that often characterize battles over military roles and missions. After World War II, the Army made occasionally forays to take complete control of the CAS mission, arguing that their platforms should provide most of the support for friendly troops on the ground. According to the Army, it should be their pilots flying support missions for ground units in contact, and not the Air Force....Unfortunately, the A-10 has been the big, ugly symbol of the CAS debate since its conception in the 1960s. The USAF only built it in the first place, it is argued, to deflect the Army's attempt to take over the mission with the fast and costly AH-56A Cheyenne compound helicopter. Now, say the boot-centric warfare believers, the USAF wants to dump CAS completely.
True, the A-10 isn't the only arrow in the CAS quiver. But can anyone name a platform--current or planned--that will do the Warthog's job with the same efficiency and effect? Get back to us when you have an answer.
That argument is off-target. In the last 10 years, the USAF and its allies have provided CAS using fighters, helicopters and gunships....within this family, the A-10 is different but not unique. What it brings to the party is better persistence than a supersonic fighter, lower cost per hour and-its advocates argue that this is crucial-flight characteristics that are better suited to operations beneath an overcast."
A Guy Could Have a Pretty Good Time in Peruvia with This
Or what the police returned to George Zimmerman.
. 3 Black Handgun Holsters
. 1 Pack of Gum
. 1 Religious Pendant
. 1 Flashlight
. 1 Pocket Knife
. 1 Sanitizing Wipe
. 2 cell phones
. 2 .223 rounds
. 8 9mm rounds
. 2 .40 caliber magazines with 8 rounds each
. 2 9mm magazines ( 1 with 14 rounds and 1 with 15 rounds )
. 1 Interarms .380 Handgun
. 2 Taurus 9mm Handgun
. 1 Glock 19 handgun
. 1 Kel-Tec 12 Gauge shotgun
. 13 12 Gauge Shotgun rounds
. 1 AR15 rifle
. 1 Soft Sided gun case
. 2 AR15 magazines
. 59 AR15 Rounds
. 1 Combination Lock
Bill Clinton - Exactly How You Imagined Him
Who Has the Sexiest Accent in America?
Why Airports Are Having to Renumber Their Runways
Because the Earth's magnetic field is constantly shifting.
As earth's magnetic north pole wanders from its geographic north pole, its magnetic field also changes in different ways for different parts of the world, and it's difficult to predict where the field will shift enough to make a difference for airports. In the past few years, Stansted Airport in London and a handful of airports in Florida, including Tampa's, have also had to renumber their runways.
These small shifts in earth's magnetic field are inconvenient for aviation, but they're nothing compared to a complete flip of the north and south poles. This has happened hundreds of times in earth's history, the last time 780,000 years ago. It's hard to say exactly what will happen-we humans have never lived through one-but it will definitely affect more than runway signage.
Weekly Commenter Standings
Top 10 commenters:
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Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
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2 [68 names] 'Brandon In Baton Rouge'
3 [61 names] 'Meremortal, back from the brink '
4 [46 names] 'pros vs joes'
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10 [27 names] 'fluffy'
The group. Yeah.
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Posted by: Ewan McGregor in "Eye of the Beholder" at December 15, 2013 06:08 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Joshua Peck at December 15, 2013 06:08 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 15, 2013 06:09 PM (BLAfs)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 15, 2013 06:09 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: UWP at December 15, 2013 06:09 PM (2hQRj)
Posted by: Y-not at December 15, 2013 06:09 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Carol at December 15, 2013 06:10 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 15, 2013 06:11 PM (BLAfs)
Posted by: tbodie at December 15, 2013 06:14 PM (rf20m)
Do you like Black Bush?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:14 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2013 06:14 PM (EQrBy)
Posted by: Carol at December 15, 2013 06:14 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: joncelli at December 15, 2013 06:15 PM (/AYWV)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 15, 2013 06:15 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at December 15, 2013 06:15 PM (E8IHS)
Posted by: UWP at December 15, 2013 06:15 PM (2hQRj)
Get your mind out of the gutter!
It's an Irish whiskey.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:16 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 15, 2013 06:16 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Y-not at December 15, 2013 06:17 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 15, 2013 06:17 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 15, 2013 06:17 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: BoomBoom at December 15, 2013 06:18 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 15, 2013 06:18 PM (BLAfs)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 15, 2013 06:18 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 06:18 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2013 06:18 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2013 06:19 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 06:19 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 15, 2013 06:19 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: Jackie Treehorn at December 15, 2013 06:19 PM (R7wKh)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 15, 2013 06:20 PM (eQJwb)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 06:20 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BoomBoom at December 15, 2013 06:20 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 15, 2013 06:22 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 15, 2013 06:22 PM (uzmcT)
Posted by: Carol at December 15, 2013 06:22 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 06:23 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 15, 2013 06:23 PM (PDhMJ)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 15, 2013 06:23 PM (dCwZe)
"Nignog."
Never heard THAT one before.
It is not a new type of xmas drink.
/LOVED Omega Man and it's counterpart, Soylent Green
Posted by: shibumi at December 15, 2013 06:23 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: BoomBoom at December 15, 2013 06:23 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 06:24 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 15, 2013 06:24 PM (PDhMJ)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 15, 2013 06:24 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at December 15, 2013 06:24 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Rick at NSA at December 15, 2013 06:25 PM (DI+ja)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 15, 2013 06:25 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 06:26 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Jonathan Matthias at December 15, 2013 06:26 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2013 10:24 PM (PDhMJ)
Carrie is gay.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:26 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 06:27 PM (RGQmh)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 15, 2013 06:27 PM (eQJwb)
Posted by: the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at December 15, 2013 06:28 PM (52lgb)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 15, 2013 06:28 PM (dCwZe)
Reason #1111 no to sign up for Obummercare, Big Brother can Hoover your checking account any old time for the money, and then tell you to check withdrawls on the website, which is down.
Charlton Heston always looked badass, even when he was only telling vampires to get off his lawn.
I guess the A-10 Lightning III (Aka Warthog) is finally DOA because no one of generals' rank wants it anymore. The loud testimony of grunts who have watched the A-10 bomb & strafe the shit out of enemy positions has been discounted. Drones will do it all.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 15, 2013 06:28 PM (lJaja)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 15, 2013 06:28 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2013 06:28 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 15, 2013 06:29 PM (PDhMJ)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 15, 2013 06:29 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: George Tirebiter at December 15, 2013 06:29 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 06:30 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BoomBoom at December 15, 2013 06:30 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: Y-not at December 15, 2013 06:30 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 06:30 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: UWP at December 15, 2013 06:31 PM (2hQRj)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 15, 2013 06:31 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 15, 2013 10:28 PM (ZyqBH)
That's actually an awesome review of the movie.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:31 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at December 15, 2013 06:31 PM (Em6d4)
Rumor is that Joshua Peck died young and was buried on the side of a ski slope. Every year the snow builds up into a bump over his grave, so I guess he did get to be a mogul after all.
Thank you Maet for another tasty and nutritious Overnight Thread.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 15, 2013 06:31 PM (N/Sup)
Posted by: vince piice at December 15, 2013 06:32 PM (rn0EN)
Posted by: Carol at December 15, 2013 06:32 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2013 06:32 PM (UAMVq)
Never? The Left is too embarrassed about Malthus being dead wrong. Plus, Soylent Green is a kind of recycling, so they'd probably favor it.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 06:32 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 06:33 PM (RGQmh)
Posted by: George Tirebiter at December 15, 2013 06:34 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: The Farmer at December 15, 2013 06:34 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2013 06:34 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: KG at December 15, 2013 10:24 PM
Humans as in modern sapiens haven't been around that long. 200,000 years or something. The last pole switch was something like 700,000 years ago. It had ancestors and/or relatives, but not "modern" humans.
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 06:34 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: joncelli at December 15, 2013 06:34 PM (/AYWV)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 15, 2013 06:34 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Y-not at December 15, 2013 06:35 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Peter at December 15, 2013 06:35 PM (rn0EN)
No, Malthus was right. Wait 'til the easy-credit dries up. Wait 'til the techies and doctors go Galt.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 15, 2013 06:35 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 15, 2013 06:35 PM (jucos)
Posted by: The Farmer at December 15, 2013 10:34 PM (eBupg)
It was silly and amusing...but it wasn't a zombie movie.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:35 PM (QFxY5)
I don't think a drone can do the job
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 10:30 PM (zOTsN)
I do not think I would ever want a drone to do what the Hog does.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 15, 2013 06:35 PM (80R0X)
http://tinyurl.com/nzpb8al
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 06:36 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 15, 2013 06:36 PM (RZ8pf)
I actually liked that one, if you mean the Woody Harrelson Twinkie movie. I found it spirited and witty. YMMV, obviously.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 06:36 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 15, 2013 06:36 PM (eQJwb)
So....you're saying that tin-foil hats might come in handy?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:37 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 06:37 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 15, 2013 06:37 PM (vAjpf)
Liberals.
They don't know whether they are coming or going.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:38 PM (QFxY5)
I never read the guy, but I always assumed he was talking about wheat and such. Brains, too? Maybe he was a zombie...
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 06:38 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: BoomBoom at December 15, 2013 06:38 PM (aeZx0)
Follow the footnotes here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunhes%E2%80%93Matuyama_reversal
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 15, 2013 06:38 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 15, 2013 06:38 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: joncelli at December 15, 2013 06:38 PM (/AYWV)
No lube? No condoms? Only one sanitizing wipe? Not much of a cache, really.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 06:39 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 15, 2013 06:39 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 15, 2013 06:39 PM (eQJwb)
Cache?
It's a start. And not a very impressive one.
How old is he? 30?
He should have at least three or four more guns.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:40 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2013 06:40 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2013 06:40 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 15, 2013 06:40 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 10:37 PM (aDwsi)
There are huge semi-magnetized broken up rocks that, when painstakingly reassembled and analyzed, were found to be a large "N" at the South Pole and a large "S" on the sea floor under the Arctic ice.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 06:40 PM (T1005)
As a matter of curiosity, what is the evidence of previous pole-flip(s)?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 10:37 PM (aDwsi)
****
Ancient kangaroo skeletal remains in Northern Canada?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 15, 2013 06:40 PM (N/Sup)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2013 06:41 PM (9htSm)
Re 80: As soon as I heard that armed Predator drones were being deployed, I knew that the next Democrat administration would cut defense spending ASAP because they could just have drone operation teams play long-range video games. War is bad, but sudden death from a drone is low-risk, low-cost policy making.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 15, 2013 06:41 PM (lJaja)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 15, 2013 10:28 PM
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My guess is that when it's re-made, the writer will be Al Gore and the director will be Michael Moore. It will be seen as a super positive movie about "the ills of Mother Gaia" "recycling" and, of course "euthanasia as a way to save the earth and all mankind."
Posted by: shibumi at December 15, 2013 06:41 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Loves Zombieland at December 15, 2013 06:41 PM (U12J3)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 15, 2013 06:41 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 15, 2013 06:41 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 15, 2013 06:41 PM (N/cFh)
I like the speed of the zombies in those movies.
There is no reason to make the zombies slow and plodding, except as an easy plot technique.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:41 PM (QFxY5)
I resemble that remark, hon.
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 15, 2013 10:36 PM (eQJwb)
Ah yes, another resident of Merlin, which is in Amurica,
Posted by: joncelli at December 15, 2013 10:38 PM (/AYWV)
_____________________
You get your warer from the zink and your Natty Bo from your fridge.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 15, 2013 06:42 PM (jucos)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 06:42 PM (rDidD)
1. Because it's a steampunk player in a Tron universe. For one thing, it isn't interconnected with all the comm links that use Blue Force Tracker to identify all the ground units.
2. "CAS is a mission, not a platform." The Army has over 650 Apache helicopters that it could use for CAS.
3. Keep in mind that the last 10 years have been a bit of an aberration. The Army went in *very* light, without its usual complement of artillery, which it bought to put a ring of fire and steel around its troops. This required the Air Force to offset the Army's lack of organic firepower.
4. The Air Force has to cut something. It can no longer keep "peanut-butter-spreading" the cuts across all systems; it's to the point where the only real savings will be found by retiring complete systems. And this trumps everything in DC, where everything is about the dollar.
Posted by: The Great Nobodaddy at December 15, 2013 06:43 PM (PXnNl)
Running out of food is Serious You Guys. Um, but not so serious that anyone should modify the genes of food to grow better. So only just Serious enough.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 06:43 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 15, 2013 06:43 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: BoomBoom at December 15, 2013 06:43 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 06:43 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2013 06:43 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 06:43 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 06:45 PM (zOTsN)
But hey, it's not like anyone in the Near East has any ancestral grudges against their neighbour
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 15, 2013 06:45 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 06:45 PM (RGQmh)
Can't we call that The Cocktail That Must Not Be Named or something? Every time I've managed to forget that infamous post, there's another reminder.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 06:45 PM (bKA83)
Yes much like the standard news shot of the "Arsenal" laid out on the bed after a drug bust. Mostly crap and way less than many people I know.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 06:45 PM (TI3xG)
All right, I'm going back to skulking.
(Sort of like lurking, but darker and moodier, in an ironic way.)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 15, 2013 06:45 PM (N/Sup)
Thank you!
I assume you missed last week's....aberration.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:46 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 10:37 PM
From magnetic anomalies in volcanic rock. They retain the properties as they were at the time they cooled. Some are opposite.
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 06:46 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: The Dude at December 15, 2013 06:46 PM (rn0EN)
Posted by: jeffrey pelt at December 15, 2013 06:46 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 06:46 PM (rDidD)
I'll get right on that, Real Soon Now.
Posted by: Eric Holder at December 15, 2013 06:46 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 06:47 PM (RGQmh)
Posted by: regnaD kciN at December 15, 2013 10:38 PM (52lgb)
I wonder where Ruth is?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 15, 2013 06:47 PM (VpMO0)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 06:47 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 15, 2013 06:47 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 15, 2013 06:47 PM (F1lOF)
Posted by: BoomBoom at December 15, 2013 10:43 PM (aeZx0)
But good at shooting dogs, you have to admit.
Posted by: cm9000 at December 15, 2013 06:47 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Y-not at December 15, 2013 06:48 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2013 06:49 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: Slow Plodding Zombie at December 15, 2013 06:49 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Y-not at December 15, 2013 06:49 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 15, 2013 06:49 PM (eQJwb)
Posted by: Chi-Coms at December 15, 2013 06:49 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2013 06:50 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: BoomBoom at December 15, 2013 06:50 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 06:50 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 10:37 PM
Don't know that a tin foil hat will be of much use during a pole flip. It might however, serve to block the resulting zombies from detecting your delicious brains.
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 06:50 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2013 06:50 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 15, 2013 10:41 PM (GEICT)
You realize that shit like this will get your Irish card revoked.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:51 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 15, 2013 06:51 PM (ZPrif)
Puff would clear a sizeable chunk of real estate, too.
Lots of fun here, we got 11" of snow last night in a 4 hour span. That was impressive.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2013 06:52 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 06:52 PM (rDidD)
Never even heard the word "retraumatize", have you?
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/345553.php#345553
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 06:52 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 15, 2013 06:52 PM (ZhNCB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 06:52 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Y-not at December 15, 2013 06:53 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 06:53 PM (rDidD)
http://tinyurl.com/qen7xwe
What kinda dickhead wants to ground that gun?
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 06:53 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 15, 2013 06:54 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 06:54 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 15, 2013 06:54 PM (ZhNCB)
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 10:53 PM (TI3xG)
The kind of idiot who thinks that any peer capable of considering a stand up fight with the USA would leave our communications networks intact so that our drones can be piloted safely from some base in Nevada.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 15, 2013 06:55 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Charleston at December 15, 2013 06:55 PM (rn0EN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 06:55 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the truth at December 15, 2013 06:56 PM (52lgb)
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 10:53 PM (TI3xG)
Or the plane that carries it?
http://tinyurl.com/e0of
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2013 06:56 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Chrissy Liebowitz at December 15, 2013 06:56 PM (iB0Q2)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 15, 2013 10:51 PM (ZPrif)
So it will be just like the rest of the federal government.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 15, 2013 06:56 PM (VpMO0)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 15, 2013 06:56 PM (V4CBV)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2013 06:56 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: Barky at December 15, 2013 06:57 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: junior at December 15, 2013 06:57 PM (FU1yE)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 06:58 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2013 06:58 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 06:59 PM (RGQmh)
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit!
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 06:59 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 06:59 PM (rDidD)
Re 141: Obummer & Moochelle have decided already that we eat too much food and we should all eat less, eat less yummy stuff, and become pale skinny bloodsuckers that get shot by action movie heroes. But I expect in another 10 years Hollywood will get its orders to make movies starring families the size of the Bradys and the Waltons. We'll need more minimum wage workers to pay for Obummercare and Medicare and SNAP and Social Security....
Posted by: exdem13 at December 15, 2013 07:00 PM (lJaja)
Posted by: BoomBoom at December 15, 2013 07:00 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: exdem13 at December 15, 2013 07:02 PM (lJaja)
Posted by: Slab Manly, Member, The League of Ugly Shirted Gentlemen at December 15, 2013 07:02 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:02 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 07:02 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 15, 2013 07:03 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Honey Badger at December 15, 2013 07:03 PM (rn0EN)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:04 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 15, 2013 07:04 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 10:37 PM (aDwsi)
Mike, if it hasn't been answered already, molten rock from volcanoes becomes slightly magnetized as it freezes, and that magnetism is in phase with the Earth's field. So if you have an oriented sample of ancient rock, you can measure the remanent magnetism, and deduce the polarity of the Earth's field at the time it crystallized. This has been done in exhaustive detail along the mid-Atlantic spreading ridge, and other ocean ridges, and the lines of alternating magnetism look like a bar code, or what a digital computer tape would look like if you sprinkled magnetic dust on it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2013 07:05 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2013 07:05 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2013 10:41 PM (9htSm)
I'm not sure what to think about that one. When I was in the military (A.F.), our per diem was based on the locale we were TDY to. More expensive areas generated more daily per diem. Although I was a bit young to have served while Gerald Ford was president, I can't imagine the government not taking care of their Secret Service agents.
Posted by: Bill R. at December 15, 2013 07:05 PM (QnRSM)
How did you make it past the Giada de Laurentis video? ... and ... why?
Prior to that horrible day, I used to consume links and videos in posts in the order in which they were presented. I used to think that the worst risk would be another look at the cursed London Boys, or that clown Sirota, or maybe some fat dude at the beach. Now I know better.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 07:06 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 07:06 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:07 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 07:08 PM (TI3xG)
[...]
Great movie!
I remember it that way. But has anyone seen it lately? Does it hold up? I vaguely remember glowing eyes in hoods, and I wonder if it would all look horribly dated at this point.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 07:08 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2013 07:08 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:09 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 07:09 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 07:10 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: Butch at December 15, 2013 07:10 PM (EV3Uf)
Posted by: BoomBoom at December 15, 2013 07:10 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2013 07:11 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 07:11 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 11:02 PM (zOTsN)
Meh.
Posted by: Stuka at December 15, 2013 07:11 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Prog Logician at December 15, 2013 07:13 PM (rn0EN)
From the magnetic orientation of materials deposited during any given era (ex. volcanic lava with ferrous traces that "take a set" based on current magnetic field orientation as the lava hardens)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 15, 2013 07:13 PM (CrabR)
Posted by: P-51 Mustang at December 15, 2013 07:13 PM (aeZx0)
Something about the way you taste
Makes me want to clear my throat
There's a message to your movements
That really gets my goat
I looked for sniffy linings
But you're rotten to the core
I've had just about all I can take
You know I can't take it no more
Got a gut feeling
Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords-Schultz at December 15, 2013 07:14 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2013 07:15 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 07:15 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Darian at December 15, 2013 07:15 PM (pCf+a)
Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2013 11:08 PM (b7yum)
Does it? I thought it precessed (like a spinning top) and then flopped over.....so that there's always a North and South magnetic pole, but it starts tracking through temperate, then tropical regions. Mind you, that might mean you see the Northern Lights in Kenya for a night or two, but it doesn't leave one hemisphere blasted with radiation.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 07:15 PM (T1005)
And now it's back to work.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 15, 2013 07:15 PM (xa1/W)
235 Ain't no way a heli or a drone nor a f-35 are gonna stay flying the way the a-10 does when it's shot.
The ground-pounders are being sold out by the starry-eyed flyboys
One star, two star... stars in their eyes
Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2013 07:16 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 15, 2013 07:16 PM (eQJwb)
Nice try, guys, but I already said to myself in the last episode that now that Carrie's starting to show, no more nude scenes in the finale or next season!
Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2013 10:29 PM (PDhMJ)
Carrie pisses me off because she has never shown her tits. Several sex scenes while wearing a bra, though. Seriously ladies, do any of you have sex while wearing only a bra????? I can understand a semi-clothed quickie, but bra only sex is just......deviant.
On the other hand, Morena Baccarin has flashed her magnificent mammarys several times over the course of the series.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2013 07:16 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 15, 2013 07:16 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 07:18 PM (zOTsN)
My new story is basically a Popeye fan fiction. I don't know if you've ever read Elzie Segar's Thimble Theatre comic strip, but it was awesome!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 07:19 PM (RGQmh)
Posted by: P-51 Mustang at December 15, 2013 07:20 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:20 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 07:21 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: That Moron at December 15, 2013 07:21 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: Baldy at December 15, 2013 07:22 PM (2bql3)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 11:15 PM (T1005)
The flip doesn't appear to take any great amount of time. Looking at zones of continuous seafloor lava deposition, a band of "normal" lava is flanked by bands of "reversed" lava, with no "zero" or "sideways" lava being found. Which is probably why there don't seem to be mass extinction events associated with pole reversals. There are many, many more pole reversals than there are mass extinctions, and there doesn't appear to be any correlation.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2013 07:22 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: jmel at December 15, 2013 07:22 PM (rDN9o)
But I still think the A 10 has a greater psychological affect, just the noise is terrifying.
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 11:02 PM (zOTsN)
Yeah, that gun just sounds absolutely EVIL.
The biggest problem with the A-10 is that pilots can't just drop ordnance quickly and climb to altitude in order to play fighter ace, which is what every gorram F35 pilot is gonna do once they replace the 'Hog.
It's time to retire the Key West Agreement and transfer the 'Hogs to the Army. Both the grunts and the 'Hog pilots will be happier.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2013 07:22 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 15, 2013 07:22 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 15, 2013 07:23 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: P-51 Mustang at December 15, 2013 11:20 PM (aeZx0)
Some kind of shot-gun.
Posted by: cm9000 at December 15, 2013 07:23 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 07:24 PM (zOTsN)
The second problem is that it is not a fighter.
2 strikes.
Strike #3 is not hard to find.>>
And most importantly being one of the cheapest if not the cheapest maned combat aircraft. The graft that can be hidden is much lower.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 07:24 PM (TI3xG)
259 I never said I knew what i was talking about.
But I used that scenario to justify buying another AR and 2K rounds so I thought I'd share
Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2013 07:25 PM (b7yum)
Know how RL can intervene and sounds like you did it for all the right reasons.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 07:26 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 15, 2013 07:26 PM (wMZQ7)
Posted by: That Moron at December 15, 2013 07:26 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 15, 2013 07:26 PM (Dwehj)
I remember talking to a an AF pilot at an Air Show in 1983 about what he was flying, and he used to fly A-10's but was now an instructor flying T-38's. He said the Air Force was transistioning pilots out of A-10's because they weren't going to keep it.
In 1983. There are a lot of people (read Colonels and Generals) in the AF that will be just happy as clams that the A-10 is being retired at last.
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 15, 2013 11:23 PM (dCwZe)
This'll be the third or fourth time the AF brass has seriously tried to kill the A-10. Most famously in the late '80s, an effort which was instantly shot down when the 'Hogs kicked ass in Gulf War I.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2013 07:26 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2013 11:22 PM
Correct. It doesn't appear to affect a variety of species at all, directly.
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 07:27 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 07:27 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:28 PM (rDidD)
I thought she was cute way back in the day, as long as she hadn't tried to doll herself up. I forget the name of that movie she did with Bruce Willis, but I thought she looked cute in uniform and not so cute when she dressed up for that policeman's ball.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 07:28 PM (RGQmh)
Posted by: The Farmer at December 15, 2013 07:28 PM (eBupg)
MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit
wears a belt, suspenders, an anti-gravity harness AND some twine in his nick, just in case, to stay out of the barrel.
Thumbs up!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 15, 2013 07:28 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 15, 2013 07:28 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 07:29 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 15, 2013 07:29 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at December 15, 2013 07:29 PM (Em6d4)
Posted by: junior at December 15, 2013 07:29 PM (FU1yE)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:30 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Bill R. at December 15, 2013 07:30 PM (QnRSM)
Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 15, 2013 07:30 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2013 07:30 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2013 07:31 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 07:31 PM (RGQmh)
http://vvkuz.ru/books/015.pdf
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 15, 2013 07:31 PM (CrabR)
Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2013 07:31 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 07:31 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 15, 2013 07:32 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:32 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at December 15, 2013 07:32 PM (E8IHS)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 15, 2013 07:33 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: DAve, Gentleman Geologist at December 15, 2013 07:33 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:33 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 07:34 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: DAve, Gentleman Geologist at December 15, 2013 07:36 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:37 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 07:37 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: That Moron at December 15, 2013 07:37 PM (aeZx0)
Posted by: DAve, Gentleman Geologist at December 15, 2013 07:37 PM (b7yum)
...which we are.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 15, 2013 07:37 PM (CrabR)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 07:37 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2013 11:06 PM (bKA83)
dude I totally understand. it is awful when that happens.
here is a link to cheer you up instead.
http://tinyurl.com/k2ql34k
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 07:38 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 15, 2013 07:38 PM (wMZQ7)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 15, 2013 07:39 PM (CrabR)
A Russian Academy of Sciences paper suggests magnetic pole reversals are associated with mutation of species due to increased radiation levels. Temporal correlation between species divergence and pole reversal is shown.
Posted by: Purp at December 15, 2013 11:31 PM
It's possible. AFAIK, they don't know exactly how long it takes, just that in geologic time, it's probably very short. But, geo time is a long ass scale. There doesn't appear to be a link to multiple extinctions, but, a flip may not be a walk in the park for a species.
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 07:40 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 07:40 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: puddleglum at December 15, 2013 07:41 PM (9TbCw)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:41 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 07:41 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: Purp at December 15, 2013 11:31 PM (CrabR)
That's a tough paper to read, because the translation is so poorly done. Nobody took the effort to clean up the resulting English and make it grammatically correct. But it all sounds pretty speculative to me. Obviously, more research has to be done. One thing is certain: we know we are overdue for a pole flip, because the Earth has long history of pole flips. You can make book on it, as long as you don't specify a time. not like global warmening.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2013 07:41 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: The Farmer at December 15, 2013 07:42 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: DAve, Gentleman Geologist at December 15, 2013 07:42 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 15, 2013 07:42 PM (wMZQ7)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 07:42 PM (aDwsi)
Some moron put some knowledge on me
Wasn't the last air to air combat in Vietnam? No, the Arab Israeli conflicts don't count for this
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 11:27 PM (zOTsN)
Lots of air to air, worldwide since 1973. Not much involving the US.
Scott Speicher was shot down and killed by a MiG-25 on the first night of the Gulf War. About 30-40 Iraqi aircraft were shot down in air to air combat during the war.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2013 07:43 PM (MBqvE)
Well, his travels just happened to take him to Sweetwater, where he got his ass beaten by a funny-looking one-eyed rat of a sailor. That sailor also exposed him as a cheater. He was consequently banned from boxing, and now he's struggling to pick up the pieces of his life.
I think that's an angle that has good potential for storytelling.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 07:43 PM (RGQmh)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2013 07:43 PM (HVff2)
top) and then flopped over.....so that there's always a North and South
magnetic pole, but it starts tracking through temperate, then tropical
regions. Mind you, that might mean you see the Northern Lights in Kenya
for a night or two, but it doesn't leave one hemisphere blasted with
radiation.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 11:15 PM (T1005)
The flip doesn't appear to take any great amount of time. Looking at zones of continuous seafloor lava deposition, a band of "normal" lava is flanked by bands of "reversed" lava, with no "zero" or "sideways" lava being found. Which is probably why there don't seem to be mass extinction events associated with pole reversals. There are many, many more pole reversals than there are mass extinctions, and there doesn't appear to be any correlation.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2013 11:22 PM (60Q+L)
I was kind of thinking of a dynamic where the speed of the precession was increased the farther the magnetic pole was from a rotational pole. To put this in perspective, the north magnetic pole was at 81.3N 110.8W in 2001; it had moved to 83.1N 117.8W in 2005; kept right on going to 84.9N 131.0W by 2009; and was estimated to be at 85.9N 147.0W in 2012. It's moving about 34-37 miles per year. [Hmmm....it's actually closing in on the rotational center, which is 90N <anything>....]
But I had envisioned the change as something where it would move 35 miles a year within 10 degrees of the rotational pole, maybe 70 miles a year until it was 20 degrees off, 140 miles a year at 30, and so on -- until it had to be moving at over 40,075 kilometers per day when it hit the equator [because that's the circumference of the earth, and it would still need some north/south speed]. In terms of geologic events, the entire process could take years and still not be "a great amount of time".
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 07:45 PM (T1005)
Posted by: DAve, Gentleman Geologist at December 15, 2013 07:45 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: PabloD at December 15, 2013 07:45 PM (+gNC1)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:45 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: R. Daneel Olivaw at December 15, 2013 07:45 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 15, 2013 07:46 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Trevor@TJexcite at December 15, 2013 07:46 PM (bkAvJ)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 15, 2013 07:47 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 15, 2013 07:48 PM (wMZQ7)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:48 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:49 PM (rDidD)
A truly classic and iconic photograph.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2013 07:49 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 07:49 PM (aDwsi)
here is a link to cheer you up instead.
http://tinyurl.com/k2ql34k
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 11:38 PM (cnS/d)
WTF were you searching for when you found that, and why?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 07:50 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 07:50 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:50 PM (rDidD)
and in the cage, sjp, cahn move, sjp was hotter than a maseratti on 110th street; yes I know I used same reference earlier this week .
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 11:33 PM (rDidD)
SJP was certainly an attractive filly in that flick.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2013 07:50 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 15, 2013 07:51 PM (wMZQ7)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:52 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: puddleglum at December 15, 2013 11:41 PM (9TbCw)
Well they're not mathematically eliminated just yet.
Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2013 07:52 PM (LI48c)
flying in something shot down by a gau8 has really gota suck, really.
Posted by: yankeefifth
----------------------
More likely missiles, no?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 11:49 PM (aDwsi)
Probably, but you just know that a 'Hog pilot was DYING to chainsaw some Soviet aircraft with the GAU8.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2013 07:53 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 07:53 PM (aDwsi)
Airmen don't just jump in their cockpits and go wherever they want to go and strike whatever they want to strike, just as the Soldier doesn't just go over the berm and smash whatever's in front of him. Both work for the Joint Force Commander who sets priority, timing, and effects for all the components -- air, sea, and ground. If the JFC wants the AF to provide gobs of CAS, the Airmen will salute smarty and make it so. Philosophical debates occur up to the point the JFC decides what he wants his forces to do. Then everybody executes accordingly.
Airmen understand the emotional attachment the grunts have for the A-10. But CAS isn't the only thing the AF has to be capable of providing.
Posted by: The Great Nobodaddy at December 15, 2013 07:54 PM (PXnNl)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:54 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2013 07:54 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: exdem13 at December 15, 2013 07:55 PM (lJaja)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 07:55 PM (RGQmh)
...that wasn't just pole reversal and a little extra radiation.
The evolutionary fossil record, in terms of species divergences, not just minor cosmetic tweaks like Galapagos canary colorations'n shit like that, seems to be chunky rather than smooth.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 15, 2013 07:55 PM (CrabR)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 11:45 PM (T1005)
Yeah, geologists are all about time. But that's what is nifty about the seafloor spreading ridges. Upwellings of lava occur more or less continuously. We have video taken down there, now. So say, a pole reversal occurs, and it takes 10 calendar years to stabilize in the new orientation. There should be some bands, maybe a few meters wide, of freshly-cooled lava with no remanent magnetism, or with magnetism at some oblique angle to a nominally north-south polarity. As far as I know, there just doesn't seem to be any. Could it be a sampling problem? Are we not getting enough samples close to reversal boundaries? I don't know for sure, but scientists are curious people, and I would think that searching for zones of null or off-axis magnetism would be a big priority. Whoever discovered it would get a big feather for their cap. (As indeed would whoever managed to show that the magnetic flips were ALWAYS so fast as not leave a signature in sea-floor lavas.)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2013 07:56 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 07:56 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 07:56 PM (aDwsi)
The F-15 is next, you know. The Air Force doesn't want rid of it, but they're getting long in the tooth and the cost per hour goes up every year. Not to mention that the bomber we have the most of is older than most of you.
Let's just say that the people in their wisdom turn to you, gentle commenter, to be in charge of allocating funding that grows slower than the inflation rate, to cover missions that are dumped on you (like Equality For All, for instance). Just exactly what would you do? And after you kill all the generals, what would you do then?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2013 07:57 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Iranians at December 15, 2013 07:57 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: eman at December 15, 2013 07:57 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 15, 2013 07:57 PM (wMZQ7)
If something >= A-10 effectiveness isn't provided, then expect higher casualty rates on the ground.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 15, 2013 07:59 PM (CrabR)
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=25138
Posted by: The Dude at December 15, 2013 11:47 PM (vJdyz)
I've never played EVE, but I have to say that I'm grateful to the EVE community for being among the first to expose what a mass of treachery and lies the Benghazi clusterfuck really was. RIP "Vile Rat".
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 07:59 PM (T1005)
and at that point I'd be real grateful that I paid a little bit extra for the Ferrari with the "ejector seat" option
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 07:59 PM (cnS/d)
At least one was with the GAU-8.
http://articles.latimes.com/1991-02-08/news/mn-937_1_air-combat
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 08:00 PM (TI3xG)
David F. Brown. 1993. Schiffer Military History.
Pg. 7 lists F-15C aerial victories.
5 MiG-29s
2 MiG-25s
8 MiG-23s
2 MiG-21s
2 Su-25s
5 Su-22s
1 Il-76
8 Mirage F1s - includes 2 shot down by Capt. Al-Shamrani of the RSAF.
1 PC-9
4 Helicopters.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 08:00 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 08:00 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2013 08:01 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Purp at December 15, 2013 11:55 PM
...and hammered the Vendian species before it.
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 08:03 PM (9gNQd)
A-10 81-0964 Steal Your Face of the 511th TFS on 15 Feb 1991 scored the final aerial victory before the cease fire. Capt. Todd "Shanghai" Sheehy used his GAU-8 to destroy an Mi-8 helicopter.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 08:03 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 11:59 PM (cnS/d)
Hey, wise guy! I'm an ejector seat, not a Payloader.
Posted by: The Ejector Seat at December 15, 2013 08:03 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 08:03 PM (aDwsi)
But CAS isn't the only thing the AF has to be capable of providing.
And yet, the AF has consistently refused to give up the CAS mission to the Army, even to free up resources to perform their other, essential duties. They only grudgingly gave up the rotary wing CAS mission because it wasn't specifically prohibited to the Army in the KW Agreement. The history of armed helicopters in the US military is pretty eye-opening.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2013 08:04 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 15, 2013 08:05 PM (JMmQ9)
Where to start looking to learn about it?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 15, 2013 08:05 PM (ohV1B)
Can there be an official AoSHQ A-10?
We could all pitch in and buy one.
Posted by: eman at December 15, 2013 11:57 PM (AO9UG)
If A-10s end up in the National Guard, it's because they're planning on using them in North America.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 08:05 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 08:06 PM (RGQmh)
Bullets and cannon shells have zero maneuverability and have long'ish time to target, and missiles have a much higher control surface loading than a drone does. All the drone has to do is wait for the missile to get kinda close, then turn inside the missile's envelope. The missile won't be able to turn as tight as the drone and will overshoot. Lather/rinse/repeat until the missile runs out of fuel.
Rail guns? different story...
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 15, 2013 08:06 PM (CrabR)
Posted by: eman at December 15, 2013 08:06 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 15, 2013 08:06 PM (AsEOB)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:06 PM (rDidD)
http://warthogunits.blogspot.com/2008/10/current-10-thunderbolt-ii-squadrons.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 08:07 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 15, 2013 08:07 PM (wMZQ7)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 08:08 PM (RGQmh)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 15, 2013 08:09 PM (aDwsi)
I may be changing my mind on my support of the A10. Of course if they have me located and are coming after me an Abrams will F me up without getting a scratch.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 08:10 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 15, 2013 08:11 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 08:11 PM (RGQmh)
Posted by: eman at December 16, 2013 12:06 AM (AO9UG)
Granted, if you were just random sampling, or sampling on a grid. But now that the bands of alternating geomagnetism are known to exist, it sort of suggests to me that closely spaced sampling across known boundaries would be a hot research priority.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2013 08:12 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2013 08:13 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: eman at December 15, 2013 08:14 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 16, 2013 12:11 AM (JMmQ9)
just play Eagle Dynamics' A-10 Warthog module for DCS World. Its a civy version of their military training sim
Posted by: The Dude at December 15, 2013 08:14 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:14 PM (rDidD)
http://warthogunits.blogspot.com/2008/10/ current-10-thunderbolt-ii-squadrons.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2013 12:07 AM (PWHzv)
I phrased that poorly, but I'm standing by the point. If A-10s end up exclusively in the National Guard, it's because they're planning on using them in North America.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 08:15 PM (T1005)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 08:15 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 15, 2013 08:16 PM (JMmQ9)
I'm guessing you used or made fun of HP calculators in the 80s.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 08:16 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: eman at December 15, 2013 08:16 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 08:17 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 15, 2013 08:18 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: fluffy at December 16, 2013 12:17 AM (Ua6T/)
is it duck season already?
mmm duck
with bacon
and gravy
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 08:18 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:19 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2013 12:17 AM (PWHzv)
Too bad there wasn't a pilot in it to engage the 30mm deflector array.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2013 08:19 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: ENTER > = at December 15, 2013 08:19 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2013 12:13 AM (xq1UY)
My comment was in the context of an earlier commenter saying they should transfer the AF warthogs to the NG. I don't think that's the signal they should be sending. I'd be all in favor of changing them over to the Army, because that's expressly an expeditionary force.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 08:21 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2013 08:21 PM (PWHzv)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 08:21 PM (RGQmh)
Does anyone have plans to see Saving Mr. Banks? Frankly it looks like the last kind of movie Disney would ever make these days, a flick where the rich white male conservative (in this case, Walt Disney himself) turns out to be at least somewhat the "good guy" versus a shrill, way-too-serious-minded author who also happened to have been a lesbian (P.L. Travers, although thankfully her bisexual past seems to have been eliminated from the film).
In the meantime, went ahead and got the blu-ray of Mary Poppins. Frustrating that Disney Video lets these flicks go out of print (have you seen what a three-year old blu-ray of Fantasia is going for?!?).
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2013 08:21 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:22 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2013 08:22 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Daffy at December 15, 2013 08:22 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 08:23 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:24 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:24 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: yankeefifth>>
The TIs of the early 80s had a bad habit of double entering a digit. We had to compile long lists of numbers in class. Many a TI was ceremonially destroyed in the Charpy impact tester to relive frustration prior to buying an HP.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 08:24 PM (TI3xG)
Animal life was already fairly complicated before it, but not as easily fossilized. The Ediacaran Fauna or whatever the frak it was is still pretty mysterious.
The Snowball Earth period may have nudged the Cambrian Poof.
Posted by: eman at December 16, 2013 12:14 AM
The Vendian species is still relatively mysterious, yes. But mostly in regard to what it was exactly... were they a closely related, were they more a bunch of existing/known types... were they a whole other branch of life? It's still being debated, with more nodding to strange, but already known types. However, as slight as the record is, compared to the Cambrian, they have a pretty decent number of larger types. Not a plethora, but much healthier than there used to be. Some hung on for awhile, until the early, even mid Cambrian IIRC, but, the overhwelming majority got hammered at the VC boundary.
The Cryogenic period happened a long time before the Cambrian, I don't think it would have played much part, if any. Could be wrong though. It was an extreme period.
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 08:25 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 08:27 PM (cnS/d)
Posted by: Sparky Treefires, Santa's mindful webworker at December 15, 2013 08:27 PM (Jh9QN)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:27 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: eman at December 16, 2013 12:14 AM
Pelosi units. lol
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2013 08:28 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:28 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 15, 2013 08:29 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:31 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 08:31 PM (RGQmh)
Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 15, 2013 08:32 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Noah at December 15, 2013 08:33 PM (xqRQq)
The other advantage is none of the youngsters want to borrow or steal it since it's RPN. And yes I still have the one I bought in 83.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 15, 2013 08:34 PM (TI3xG)
mine is not quite that old but old enough. I would not part with it for anything. I might send it to bebe to use in a photo but nothing else.Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:35 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2013 08:37 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:38 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: ENTER > = at December 15, 2013 08:39 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2013 12:22 AM (xq1UY)
No, I wouldn't -- and this is a reason (besides Pixy's peculiarities) why I generally quote the entire bit I'm commenting on. If the best damned plane out there for CAS were exclusively in the US, wouldn't anyone wonder just WTF people were anticipating? F-16s have a variety of missions that anyone could easily come up with that would apply all over the US, but A-10's?
And, BTW, if you read clearly between the lines, you will note that I said "using them in North America". I, personally, know the difference between that and "using them against US citizens" and chose my words carefully. It would be a rational thing to do if we were facing an impending flotilla of Chinese landing craft hitting the west coast.....but are we really? Are we talking about helping Canada out with a flood of yetis coming over the pole? Are we going to need CAS to defend the Rio Grande some time soon? Moving the A-10 to an exclusively National Guard role would indicate some serious batshit crazy in the planning loop.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 08:41 PM (T1005)
I'll second that. I use an HP 15c as well.
Sure wish I knew what I did with my HP 16c, though. Pulling out the 48gx is overkill when I just need to deal with the occasional hex<->decimal conversion (I generally use the 15c for everything else).
Posted by: Anachronda at December 15, 2013 08:47 PM (U82Km)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J5gKshk3Go&list=PLA47BFB9815A9FC33
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2013 08:48 PM (RGQmh)
And, BTW, if you gloss past the weirdness of those other missions, then "using them against US citizens" would presumably be included.....but I was specifically thinking -- "what better use could there be for them here than there?"
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 08:49 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 15, 2013 08:49 PM (FlRtG)
No it wouldn't. It would mean that they don't see enough use of CAS in the near future to justify active duty squadrons. Considering that the war in Afghanistan is winding down, that's not completely unreasonable. They could still call up an Air National Guard squadron as necessary to support operations somewhere in the world.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 15, 2013 08:51 PM (lr3d7)
I had a TI57 that I loved before I bought my first HP. Well, actually, it was the Radio Shack equivalent; a TI57 with Radio Shack badging all over it.
Mine got destroyed because I got carried away experimenting with the programming feature. I found that if you shorted the keyboard lines, you could occasionally get an unusual/impossible keystroke entered into a program.
After many rounds of such fun, it died on me in the middle of a state FBLA accounting competition. When I pressed a key, it would just light up a segment of the display instead of doing anything. Had to finish the competition by hand. I didn't do well.
Bought an HP32E after that and never looked back. I still have the 32E somewhere, if I knew in which box to look.
Posted by: Anachronda at December 15, 2013 08:51 PM (U82Km)
I heard rumors that they had been retired recently and none are left in service.
I also heard that someone had proposed a turbine OV-10 for a recent aircraft competition, but lost out to another proposal.
Posted by: Anachronda at December 15, 2013 08:54 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:56 PM (rDidD)
oh well
Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2013 08:56 PM (cnS/d)
Moving the A-10 to an exclusively National Guard role would indicate some serious batshit crazy in the planning loop.
It might also indicate an intent to preserve the fleet and all necessary support and logistical functions in the face of politics.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 16, 2013 12:49 AM (FlRtG)
I agree that we are pressed today and will be sorely pressed tomorrow to safeguard our lives, effects, in institutions from the rampaging Federal Leviathan....and would love to think that states might step back from the abyss and take some responsibility for such preservation when the Feds don't....but I don't see it. The only state with the gumption and resources to save the A-10 by de-nationalizing it might be Texas, and that'd still be a huge project for them to undertake. Furthermore, it's only one small piece of the overall military. It'd be like West Virginia throwing all-in to preserve Marine NCO swords if the Feds discontinued 'em.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 08:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 08:59 PM (rDidD)
So you now clarify your strategic assessment, and you do not suggest that ANG units are more likely to be mobilized against some potential civil insurgency?
Good.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2013 09:03 PM (xq1UY)
I'm going to hazard a guess and say the thing that is killing the A-10 is maintainability. Like the old Tomcat, an aircraft I loved, but it was a maintenance nightmare. I think before they retired the 'cats they were taking something like 21 hours of maintenance per flight hour (keeping in mind that a one hour inspection involving 2 maintainers is 2 maintenance hours, multiply that by two or three shops, then the turnaround inspections, it's not hard to log 10 maintenance hours in a 1 hour turnaround cycle if nothing needs to be fixed). I'm guessing the A-10 is similar.
This is what happens when you have high-time airframes, it's not the frame that gets you it's the wiring and etc. not to mention trying to keep up with the avionics. Some of the Toms still had vacuum tube radios (they were at places like Pax River, but they were still there). And the Tom wasn't even an extreme case, we have/had P-3s that were older than the aircrews that flew them, and if you really want to have your mind blown, look up the first year of operations for the BUFF (B-52). THAT's a high-time airframe, and some of those airframes are still in service. Not many that old, true, but there are a few, and the newest ones of them aren't exactly spring chickens.
I know lots of ground pounders that will cry big alligator tears when the A-10 goes, but it will have to fly off into the sunset sooner or later.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 15, 2013 09:03 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2013 09:03 PM (2pc1N)
- Shawn Ley, published reporter for the Detroit News
And this is why every shitchan in every engineering building in every university across the nation has written above the toilet paper dispenser: "Communications Degrees. Take One."
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 09:04 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2013 09:06 PM (Vk2pI)
I know lots of ground pounders that will cry big alligator tears when the A-10 goes, but it will have to fly off into the sunset sooner or later.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2013 01:03 AM (xa1/W)
Of course they'll have to go sooner or later. The problem is that there's no decent replacement and the AF doesn't seem interested in providing one, instead offering up the F-35 boondoggle instead.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 15, 2013 09:07 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 16, 2013 01:07 AM (lr3d7)
Can't just paint the USAF with that brush. Marines and Navy are getting them, too. Of course the Marine version is supposed to have a honking great fan in the middle of it that isn't working out too well, and the USN isn't real thrilled with the idea of going back to a single engine aircraft.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 15, 2013 09:09 PM (xa1/W)
From the Wikipedia OV-10 page:
Boeing has recently put together plans internally to build a modernized, improved version of the Bronco, called the OV-10X, to satisfy an Air Force requirement for a light attack plane. ... Boeing indicates that international interest in restarting production is growing, to compete with other light attack aircraft such as the T-6B Texan II, A-67 Dragon, and EMB 314 Super Tucano.
... On 3 February 2010, during the Singapore Air Show, Boeing announced that the international interest for the aircraft was such that it would go on with its development even in the case it failed to win the USAF tender for 100 Light Attack/Armed Reconnaisance aircraft.
Posted by: Anachronda at December 15, 2013 09:11 PM (U82Km)
No it wouldn't. It would mean that they don't see enough use of CAS in the near future to justify active duty squadrons. Considering that the war in Afghanistan is winding down, that's not completely unreasonable. They could still call up an Air National Guard squadron as necessary to support operations somewhere in the world.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 16, 2013 12:51 AM (lr3d7)
Right, but as I was saying above....the concept on the table was transferring the AF squadrons to the NG, so that we'd have some weird multiple of what any person might think we needed based in a non-expeditionary mode in the US.
I fully realize that the names of military forces are whacked -- and there's some base that keeps cropping up in anecdotes where the air support is handled by the Navy, base security and operations are an Air Force responsibility, and the Army is tasked with keeping surface ships away -- and I'm totes aware that we've been using National Guard all over the place in the post-9/11 "stretched years" -- but there is a reason that these services are distinct, and that is very closely linked to why the military of the United States is under civilian control.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 09:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2013 09:13 PM (xq1UY)
alligator tears when the A-10 goes, but it will have to fly off into
the sunset sooner or later.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2013 01:03 AM (xa1/W)
The A-10 was slated for retirement in... um... 1987? The F-16 was supposed to take up that role. Not quite how it worked out. The hawg is tried and proven.
I know dudes who patched up A-10's with creative use of Pepsi cans and quick turned them faster than Rosie O'Donnel can work through a baked ham.
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 09:13 PM (x3YFz)
concerns.
Perhaps he could stay at the Hanoi Hilton.
Traitor.
Posted by: gracepmc at December 15, 2013 09:15 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 15, 2013 09:15 PM (xa1/W)
concerns.
Perhaps he could stay at the Hanoi Hilton.
Traitor.
Posted by: gracepmc at December 16, 2013 01:15 AM (rznx3)
Maybe he'll take McCain with him and let them recapture his dumb ass.
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 09:17 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 09:17 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 09:18 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2013 01:18 AM (rDidD)
lol
You mean that 79th purple heart he nominated himself for after his papercut?
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 09:20 PM (x3YFz)
So you now clarify your strategic assessment, and you do not suggest that ANG units are more likely to be mobilized against some potential civil insurgency?
Good.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2013 01:03 AM (xq1UY)
ANG units are, if anything, less likely to be deployed against some civil insurgency in their state, because it's their state.
Y'know, I don't really mind discussing the issue or being asked to clarify a point, but I could do without the assumption that I'm a complete idiot when I am, in fact, a Moron.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 09:22 PM (T1005)
There is a pix on Drudge (article links to Yahoo). Just cruisin' along ... Me, enraged.
Posted by: gracepmc at December 15, 2013 09:27 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: model_1066 at December 15, 2013 09:28 PM (x5Ei/)
only one unit that operates the AC-130 gunship, and it is an ANG
squadron. One wonders what you will make of that.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2013 01:03 AM (xq1UY)
4th SOS is part of 1 SOW and is not ANG to the best of my knowledge.
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 09:30 PM (x3YFz)
Yeah, well, he also talked about how it would be unacceptable for the NorKs to get nukes. Pretty far down the page over at weaselzippers.
Posted by: Anachronda at December 15, 2013 09:33 PM (U82Km)
When I was here, I wanted to be there. When I was there all I could think of was getting back in the jungle. I'm on the Mekong again, baby...
Back in the shit.
Posted by: john "willard" kerry at December 15, 2013 09:35 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: model_1066 at December 15, 2013 09:35 PM (x5Ei/)
Posted by: model_1066 at December 15, 2013 09:37 PM (x5Ei/)
The 1000 yard stare? I've got one. You'll have one too after you've been in the shit... like me.
Posted by: john "willard" kerry at December 15, 2013 09:38 PM (9gNQd)
The A-10's of the Air Force are also based in the continental United
States. They deploy to forward bases the same way the ANG does. There is
only one unit that operates the AC-130 gunship, and it is an ANG
squadron. One wonders what you will make of that.
So you now
clarify your strategic assessment, and you do not suggest that ANG units
are more likely to be mobilized against some potential civil
insurgency?
Good.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2013 01:03 AM (xq1UY)
In fact, (sheesh, you had me second guessing until I 'called a friend') 4 SOS is active duty. Not ANG.
You had me going for a minute. Well about 20 seconds, anyway.
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 09:38 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2013 09:38 PM (xq1UY)
The 1000 yard stare? I've got one. You'll have one too after you've been in the shit... like me.
Posted by: john "willard" kerry at December 16, 2013 01:38 AM (9gNQd)
....or had a prefrontal lobotomy, like Rosemary Kennedy....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 09:40 PM (T1005)
Posted by: tangonine at December 16, 2013 01:30 AM (x3YFz)
Too many TLAs for MPT
Posted by: model_1066 at December 16, 2013 01:37 AM (x5Ei/)
Google it! But /sigh:
SOS = Special Operations Squadron
SOW = Special Operations Wing
ANG = Air National Guard
ISS = I'm so sexy
wait, what?
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 09:40 PM (x3YFz)
The 1000 yard stare? I've got one. You'll have one too after you've been in the shit... like me.
Posted by: john "willard" kerry at December 16, 2013 01:38 AM (9gNQd)
No sheeet there I was. Ass deep in spent brass and grenade pins... all I had was a trench shovel and a p-38. I can't talk about the rest, it's classified.
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 09:42 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: model_1066 at December 15, 2013 09:43 PM (x5Ei/)
Posted by: Space Shuttle Secret Squirrel Door Gunner at December 15, 2013 09:44 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 09:46 PM (rDidD)
Thanks! My time isn't all that precious these days, to be truthful.
Posted by: model_1066 at December 16, 2013 01:43 AM (x5Ei/)
to steal a bit from Deputy Marshall Givens: time and dead owls don't give a hoot.
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 09:46 PM (x3YFz)
We're buying them for Afghanistan's AF.
The last sat shots of Davis-Monthan I examined showed a number of old prop driven A-1 Skyraiders in stock too. I have no idea what their condition is though.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 15, 2013 09:50 PM (CrabR)
Posted by: tangonine at December 16, 2013 01:42 AM
I know, right? I took on an NVA battalion with just one of those ration issue tin opener things... the whatsit. That and my bare bloodied teeth.
Back in the shit we judged a man by the number of ears on his dogtags, not by how many gook hootchies he burned. Charging a man with murder in this place is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500, man.
You get me man. I was in the shit and just killed as a reflex. Like breathin'.
Posted by: john "willard" kerry at December 15, 2013 09:52 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: model_1066 at December 15, 2013 09:54 PM (x5Ei/)
Thanks! My time isn't all that precious these days, to be truthful.
Posted by: model_1066 at December 16, 2013 01:43 AM (x5Ei/)
to steal a bit from Deputy Marshall Givens: time and dead owls don't give a hoot.
Posted by: tangonine at December 16, 2013 01:46 AM (x3YFz)
I reread that and, that is so NOT what I wanted to say! I meant to convey that yes, time is precious, but it doesn't care.
Came off rather rude, and I didn't mean that. Sorry :/
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 09:59 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: john "willard" kerry at December 16, 2013 01:52 AM (9gNQd)
man, we joke about it, but I do have my closest friend who's a sheriff's deputy and has to deal with the "I was in the shit" clowns on the SWAT team every day.
He hates them so much that after we're done talking I have to sanitize my phone.
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 10:02 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: model_1066 at December 15, 2013 10:03 PM (x5Ei/)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2013 01:46 AM (rDidD)
You're not thinking of the women that have to sleep with him. Lurch. FFS could his chin be bigger? without totally throwing off his center of mass?
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 10:06 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 15, 2013 10:07 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: model_1066 at December 16, 2013 02:03 AM (x5Ei/)
Time doesn't give a hoot. It doesn't heal, it ain't your enemy. It just is. No more or less than a stone in your driveway: it just... is. That was what I tried to say, so indelicately.
Don't make me go all metaphysical, I'm trying to post here and write a physics III final at the same time!
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 10:10 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 16, 2013 02:07 AM (jdRXP)
I would so pay to see that.
Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2013 10:11 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: tangonine at December 16, 2013 02:06 AM
Hey, back in the shit my chin was a poontang magnet. I was a death dealing man stud that killed gooks like it was nothin'. They called me "Jack Ripplejaw".
Posted by: john "willard" kerry at December 15, 2013 10:13 PM (9gNQd)
long, especially if you make the wrong decisions. Time heals all
wounds, but is still your enemy.
Posted by: model_1066 at December 16, 2013 02:03 AM (x5Ei/)
Time doesn't give a hoot. It doesn't heal, it ain't your enemy. It just is. No more or less than a stone in your driveway: it just... is. That was what I tried to say, so indelicately.
Don't make me go all metaphysical, I'm trying to post here and write a physics III final at the same time!
Posted by: tangonine at December 16, 2013 02:10 AM (x3YFz)
"You know the sound of two hands clapping; tell me, what is the sound of one hand?"
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 10:13 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 15, 2013 10:14 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2013 10:14 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: tangonine at December 16, 2013 02:06
real hero or victim was poor Thing, he hadda in the middle of lurch and whoever he was with to finish 'em both off.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2013 02:14 AM (rDidD)
OMG! There you go -- an expose from the viewpoint of Thing (probably hand-written) about the travails and scandals of working in Hollywood during the Addams Family filming. How the casting couch cost Thing innumerable hand-jobs for famous people; how being mute saved him on uncountable occasions; the depraved orgies; the scandalous depravities......it has "best-seller" written all over it.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 10:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: junior at December 15, 2013 10:23 PM (FU1yE)
Posted by: junior at December 15, 2013 10:24 PM (FU1yE)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 15, 2013 10:25 PM (DSFcs)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 15, 2013 10:28 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 10:45 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 15, 2013 10:52 PM (DSFcs)
Hey A... Get your groove on to 1973. It was a very funky year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1bjL6I8IHo
Posted by: otho at December 16, 2013 02:45 AM (9gNQd)
Funky year? That was either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe1ScoePqVA or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK4af03OUQc -- pick it.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 10:55 PM (T1005)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 15, 2013 11:00 PM (DSFcs)
Funky year? That was either ... pick it.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2013 02:55 A
Funk you C. Funk off! The 1970's were all funky years, baby...
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 11:02 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 15, 2013 11:07 PM (DSFcs)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2013 02:55 AM
Those were hot stuff. Wild Cherry and the Commodores.
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 11:07 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 16, 2013 03:00 AM
Didn't guess "Tie a yellow ribbon". Sure was diverse back then. Hell there was good stuff on the radio back then. Funny thing is, I didn't appreciate it at the time, you know. I dug it, but it was just background noise, there was so much good stuff around that you could treat it like an ambient sound. What the hell happened to good shit?
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 11:13 PM (9gNQd)
i couldn't get your second li.k on mobile... Who was it?
Posted by: shredded chi at December 16, 2013 03:07 AM (DSFcs)
2nd link was "Brick House". Came out in 1977. when I was 14.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 11:16 PM (T1005)
Those were hot stuff. Wild Cherry and the Commodores.
Posted by: otho at December 16, 2013 03:07 AM (9gNQd)
No shit. I recognize da funk with Parliament/Funkadelic, and all dat.....but those two are ground zero to my adolescence.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 11:19 PM (T1005)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 15, 2013 11:24 PM (DSFcs)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 11:29 PM (T1005)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 15, 2013 11:32 PM (DSFcs)
No shit. I recognize da funk with Parliament/Funkadelic, and all dat.....but those two are ground zero to my adolescence.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2013 03:19 AM
Oh yeah... I hear that. You ain't talking no jive.
1974 the year funk factor went up to 11.
Posted by: otho at December 15, 2013 11:38 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 11:39 PM (T1005)
No shit. I recognize da funk with Parliament/Funkadelic, and all dat.....but those two are ground zero to my adolescence.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2013 03:19 AM
Oh yeah... I hear that. You ain't talking no jive.
1974 the year funk factor went up to 11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l-GuraLUNA
Posted by: otho at December 16, 2013 03:38 AM (9gNQd)
11? How 'bout 12? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szkmivRWegU
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 11:44 PM (T1005)
Gots me a Marlin 1894cs in .357. Beautiful, Well Made, a Blast to Shoot. I have to keep it locked up...but only so the kids don't steal it. The Wymen in the family love it to death.
Posted by: Trainer's looking to join a Militia. at December 15, 2013 11:47 PM (7EbAY)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 15, 2013 11:52 PM (DSFcs)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 11:58 PM (T1005)
Hahaha... The Tubes. good stuff.
And "Rollercoaster" is actually a pretty decent movie. Quite underrated. Well put together with a snappy story that doesn't fuck around.
Posted by: otho at December 16, 2013 12:08 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2013 12:25 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2013 12:31 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2013 04:31 AM (T1005)
===
guess who is missing from the video?
Posted by: jc at December 16, 2013 12:35 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2013 12:39 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 16, 2013 12:48 AM (DSFcs)
http://tinyurl.com/cjdtqj4
This guy
or
http://tinyurl.com/lspqkee
Brownell's
Posted by: sven10077 at December 16, 2013 01:06 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Inscrutable Saying at December 16, 2013 01:08 AM (lMEpx)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 16, 2013 01:27 AM (DSFcs)
always happy to help, the old Marlin's are a treat.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 16, 2013 01:33 AM (9jfyN)
"Hey, look -- now it's morning!"
Antelope Freeway, 1/16 mile....
Posted by: Beverly at December 16, 2013 01:37 AM (BrXbR)
Posted by: Beverly at December 16, 2013 01:39 AM (BrXbR)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 16, 2013 01:39 AM (bxf8s)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 16, 2013 01:41 AM (DSFcs)
Nice. Fox just reported that FaceBook tracks what you write even if you decide not to post it.
Isn't that the same as planting a keylogger on your computer? How is that not considered hacking?
Posted by: Ook? at December 16, 2013 01:47 AM (FBkKA)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 16, 2013 01:52 AM (DSFcs)
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Didn't he go on to be the conman for the A-Team.
..oh wait that was Templeton ...
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2013 02:02 AM (7mQyC)
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You shouldn't be surprised in the least, google was doing that for awhile too, supposedly to get a better idea on how to improve their auto-fill as you type crap.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2013 02:05 AM (7mQyC)
Posted by: Baldy at December 16, 2013 02:25 AM (2bql3)
end school shootings:
1. provide at least one determined policeman or security guard with a revolver
(no swat teams/reduce swat team training)
2. everyone fights back (no one hides under their desk) even running is better than "hiding" and waiting to be shot
Posted by: tully sempronicus at December 16, 2013 04:59 AM (lB/5N)
Posted by: Jen at December 16, 2013 05:01 AM (fsi6e)
Oh, and they should be ready by 2029, fer sure, so go ahead and scrap the Warthog now. We'll start whipping up some sketches.
Posted by: Lockheed Martin at December 16, 2013 05:51 AM (XO6WW)
The 1000 yard stare? I've got one. You'll have one too after you've been in the shit... like me.
I've only got a 100-yard stare cuz I just don't give a shit.
Posted by: Lockheed Martin at December 16, 2013 05:56 AM (XO6WW)
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Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2013 06:07 PM (T1005)