December 30, 2013
— Maetenloch
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Why Is The United States The Greatest Thing In The History Of Ever?
You know, Canada's nice. Too nice, according to Canadians, but they're just being, well, too nice about the whole thing. They don't want you to feel bad about how nice they are. That wouldn't be nice. The British Isles are fairly pleasant. They have nuclear weapons, but I never get the impression they'd use them or anything. They're like the hood ornament on a Jaguar. It doesn't matter what's on the hood, because the car is always in the shop. I think Finnish people are nice, or would be, at least, if they would answer a question without staring at their shoes. Australians are a blast, of course. I think it's all the Foster's and everything being poisonous in their country that makes them so jolly. Why be glum if even the fuzzy, cute animals might drop you where you stand? The orchestra played at a 12 degee pitch on the Titanic, didn't it? Might as well; it's less work than panicking.
No, the US is not the greatest thing in the history of ever because we're all nice, or fun, or polite, or smart, or salubrious, or even interesting. We're the Greatest thing in the history of ever because we spent $25 billion just so we could do donuts on Old Man Moon's lawn.
The rest of our Federal budget? We wasted it.
Well the ability to deliver a physics package on a miscreant anywhere in the world within the hour is pretty awesome too.
And we recently achieved this even with no government funding. So we have that going for us.
The Problem With Camille Paglia
Actually, there is nothing in the WSJ article that indicates a leftist or even a liberal orientation on Paglia's part, although that vote for Obama would certainly suggest it. That is the puzzlement of the Obama appeal; how could someone like Paglia have ended up voting for him?There's a hint of the answer in this interview with Paglia from October of 2012. She didn't support Obama any more by 2012, but asked why she wasn't voting for Romney instead, this was her answer:
I cannot cast a vote for a party that cast so many votes in the primaries for the vile Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum! The Democrats may be naive about institutions and economics, but the Republicans seem to be culturally and psychologically naive in imagining for a single second that Newt Gingrich is a deep and erudite thinker!Did she consider Obama "a deep and erudite thinker"? And is that the proper criteria by which to elect a president, or is it more akin to the selection of a professorship in the academia Paglia has criticized so strongly?
Paglia goes on to add, "No, the Republican Party has become very provincial in terms of culture," in contrast to Nelson Rockefeller's abstract art collection; I kid you not. But that's Paglia for you.
I've always found Camille Paglia interesting yet ultimately frustrating as a writer since I started reading her essays in the 90s. She can seem very clear-headed and generally conservative yet this never seems to translate into a coherent world view and she consistently supports liberal democrats. So I eventually decided that a lot of her shtick is really just contrarianism mixed with emotion and clever writing. Which puts in the same for-entertainment-only-not-to-be-taken-seriously category as Peggy Noonan.
I'm Shocked, Shocked to Learn that Scientific Studies of Conservatives Can't Be Replicated
Concerned by the unreliability of scientific research in the field of psychology, an international group, the Many Labs Replication Project, began fact-checking major research. Of the thirteen studies it reviewed, only two were proven completely unreliable - and both had to do with conservative political behavior.Both studies concerned "social priming," a phenomenon by which people are made more likely to endorse a view or act in a particular way by first being exposed to certain stimuli.
...Scientific American, in telling this story, fails to note an irony which is not without its own scientific significance. The Project's review suggests a much-more-than-random failure of scientific studies that pertain to conservative views and beliefs. Scientists' inability to form sound theses in this area and to pursue their evidence with good methodology is a morsel that one interested in academic bias should not want to pass up.
BAE n. Spelling representation of a dialect pronunciation of babe or baby. The catchphrase "bae caught me slippin" (meaning, "My baby caught me sleeping") came into vogue as a caption to photographs taken by people pretending to be asleep.CIS adj. Identifying the gender that one was born to and identifies with, as in cismale for "male with male gender identity." Short for cisgender, an antonym of transgender. Pronounced as siss.
CRONUT n. A wonderful pastry that is part croissant, part doughnut and part hype.
DEEP STATE n. A hard-to-perceive level of government or super-control that exists regardless of elections and that may thwart popular movements or radical change. Some have said that Egypt is being manipulated by its deep state.
RESTING BITCH FACE, BITCHY RESTING FACE, BITCH FACE n. A face that, when at rest, looks angry, irritated or aggressive.
Also Words That Appeared The Year You Were Born
The Chinese campaign of conquering real, or imagined, nearby "lost territories" by winning many little victories in battles none of the victims is willing to go to war over continues. This campaign is quite active in the South China Sea, North Korea and along the Indian border. China has, in the last few years, taken control of sizable chunks of India and large swaths of the South China Sea one tiny piece at a time. The victims are organizing, but have yet to come up with a workable defense against the Chinese tactics. Despite growing resistance by the victims, and their ally the United States, China keeps pushing and keeps making progress. Nothing any of the victims has done so far has stopped the Chinese, who apparently believe that ultimate victory is theirs because their opponents are too disorganized or intimidated to put up any effective resistance. Nevertheless, it is a risky game and there are constant minor crises that could go awry and become major problems.
Traditions in Sports That Are Awesome
I didn't realize that playoff beards went back as far as the 80s.
And their fates.
The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.
And my twitter thang.
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Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 30, 2013 05:52 PM (e8kgV)
(includes cousins of Grumpy Cat)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/le8ak92
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 30, 2013 05:55 PM (ioT3q)
Posted by: Carol at December 30, 2013 05:55 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Tin-foil hatted Cicero Kid at December 30, 2013 05:57 PM (6fSty)
Posted by: Carol at December 30, 2013 05:58 PM (z4WKX)
It also doesn't hurt that the Chinese could send us into bankruptcy by dumping T-Bills all at once
Posted by: kbdabear at December 30, 2013 05:58 PM (aTXUx)
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Posted by: The NSA at December 30, 2013 06:06 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at December 30, 2013 06:07 PM (noB3y)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 06:07 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:07 PM (0FSuD)
And it freaked out Andrew Sullivan, who's still blogging about it; so it's got to be good.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 06:07 PM (Xfl0F)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 06:08 PM (bb5+k)
The ship graphic is vague. A gray ship silhouette is said to mean 'not deployable in the Pacific.' But what about USN carriers that are going through post deployment refit or even a refueling or SLEP? So the graphic is simple and wrong.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 06:08 PM (f1IeF)
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Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:08 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Meremortal, smooth te tinfoil at December 30, 2013 06:09 PM (jTKU5)
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Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 06:09 PM (Xfl0F)
Her comments about Gingrich typically miss the point. His role on the right is not "deep and erudite thinker." It is "master tactician, master verbal fencer." He states the obvious in very clear terms, and is not intimidated by context or process, so he'll happily mix it up with people like debate moderators who are used to deference. We have strayed so far in the direction of ignoring obvious things (like "hey, we're spending much more money than we have, and it will collapse someday, and that day is not far off"), that it may seem to someone not paying attention that Newt is attempting to be erudite. He is not. He is trying to get across to your easily-distractable brain that this shit is real.
Posted by: Splunge at December 30, 2013 06:10 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 30, 2013 06:10 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 10:01 PM (T1005)
How's the water down in R'lyeh?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 30, 2013 10:04 PM (UAMVq)
Murky and stirring by itself.....just like it's supposed to be.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 06:10 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:10 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 30, 2013 06:10 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 30, 2013 06:10 PM (JpFMR)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 06:10 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 06:10 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 06:10 PM (aDwsi)
Solaris was a very odd and compelling movie. Sorry, saw it mentioned above (#3
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Posted by: puddleglum at December 30, 2013 06:11 PM (15w2J)
Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 30, 2013 06:12 PM (KuZ6A)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 06:12 PM (aDwsi)
Now where did that smiley face come from? That should be #36.
Posted by: puddleglum at December 30, 2013 06:12 PM (15w2J)
More Sullivan, 1995-2004.
Noonan's not even a contrarian. She's good at spinning out flowery prose for whatever she feels is the Zeitgeist at any given moment.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 06:12 PM (Xfl0F)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at December 30, 2013 06:12 PM (6rcHp)
Greenies? No, no, historical re-enactors. Say, did you hear that someone got killed by his dogs in Arizona? Why don't you look over there for a while.
Posted by: The MSM at December 30, 2013 06:12 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:12 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 30, 2013 06:12 PM (V4CBV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 30, 2013 06:13 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 06:13 PM (sOtz/)
Yeah, that, and thanks. Which is why it hurts when he doesn't even do that.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 06:14 PM (Xfl0F)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:14 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Meremortal, smooth t tinfoil at December 30, 2013 06:14 PM (jTKU5)
http://tinyurl.com/kgs8qe4
Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2013 06:14 PM (TM1p8)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 30, 2013 06:14 PM (JpFMR)
Posted by: soothsayer at December 30, 2013 06:14 PM (09CLD)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 06:14 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 30, 2013 06:14 PM (t3UFN)
Maybe they're smart enough to know that beer in clear glass bottles turns skunky, and that a damn lime is not a sufficient way to address the problem?
Besides, who would drink Corona, when Negra Modelo could be had?
Posted by: Splunge at December 30, 2013 06:15 PM (bKA83)
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Posted by: Insomniac at December 30, 2013 06:15 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: Nip Sip
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It's more of a loose confederation, really.
I will say that the Old North State is rather well represented at the HQ.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2013 06:16 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 10:08 PM (f1IeF)
The original chart says 'not currently deployed in the Pacific"
Posted by: Mætenloch at December 30, 2013 06:16 PM (XkotV)
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Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:19 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Jenny Kind of Likes Her Phone at December 30, 2013 06:19 PM (5JhS+)
It does hurt. I try to repress the picture of the couch-with-Pelosi scene. The other part of Newt is "he has a flaky side where you never know what the hell he is going to do on impulse." If he didn't have that, he might have been President at some point.
Posted by: Splunge at December 30, 2013 06:19 PM (bKA83)
Germany would more likely have won, at great cost to itself. But at least it wouldn't have been able to claim it had been stabbed in the back [by Jews]. So, no Hitler.
But Germany's victory would have been engineered by letting Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky gain control over Russia and sign a separate peace. Oh wait a minute. That actually happened! Germany *did* let Lenin take over Russia and sign a separate peace. With or without American involvement.
So, we probably still get Stalin in this counterfactual where the Americans let Kaiser Bill win.
The argument I'd rather have is whether *the Brits* should have told the Belgians, Frogs, Serbs and Russkies to go their own way when the Kaiser came calling.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 06:20 PM (Xfl0F)
My sources say that the RCN Lord Mayor Rob Ford can launch wood & canvas biplanes capable of striking unescorted German battleships.
The Pacific strength chart does not look at the underside of any ships. Many were made in China and sold at discount outlets. The number of Sweatshop Class frigates in those fleets might surprise you.
Posted by: Timothy Fountain at December 30, 2013 06:20 PM (XZNzU)
Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 30, 2013 06:21 PM (KuZ6A)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 30, 2013 10:12 PM
The Rum Rebellion... Just sayin'.
Posted by: otho at December 30, 2013 06:21 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2013 06:22 PM (aqMrr)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 30, 2013 06:22 PM (V4CBV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 06:23 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 06:23 PM (bb5+k)
I pity his Scandi colleagues.
Posted by: Splunge at December 30, 2013 06:23 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 30, 2013 06:23 PM (JMmQ9)
repeating my recommendation for RUSH
I almost nixed it 5 minutes in but then it got better. THOR is in it. Richie Cunningham directed it.
Plus, engines and cars.
Posted by: soothsayer at December 30, 2013 10:14 PM (09CLD)
The love scene between Jason Patric and Jennifer Jason Leigh was heartwarming, too.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 30, 2013 06:24 PM (5l5UA)
Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 30, 2013 06:24 PM (KuZ6A)
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Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 30, 2013 06:25 PM (JpFMR)
Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2013 06:25 PM (aqMrr)
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Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 30, 2013 06:26 PM (JpFMR)
Posted by: Folsom Street Fair Organizing Committee at December 30, 2013 06:26 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:27 PM (0FSuD)
http://tinyurl.com/mf3q8ph
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 06:27 PM (f1IeF)
See: Michelle Obama
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 30, 2013 06:28 PM (80R0X)
My sources say that the RCN Lord Mayor Rob Ford can launch wood canvas biplanes capable of striking unescorted German battleships.<<<
Made of pykrete.
Posted by: Project Hab-meth-kkuk at December 30, 2013 06:28 PM (2ljO9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 30, 2013 06:29 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 06:29 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Neville Chamberlain. at December 30, 2013 06:29 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Chrissy Liebowitz at December 30, 2013 06:29 PM (iB0Q2)
Had you not been born, we might not be suffering under Captain Sneer right now. Enjoying those flames, are you? Can I help by throwing some nice resinous pine on that fire?
Posted by: Splunge at December 30, 2013 06:29 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 30, 2013 10:26 PM
Bundaberg Rum is fucking awesome.
Posted by: otho at December 30, 2013 06:29 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 10:23 PM (f1IeF)
What's a missile trap? Something that has no offensive power and can't hit back, or something that has no self-defense capability?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 30, 2013 06:31 PM (ioT3q)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 06:31 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:32 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 30, 2013 06:32 PM (AymDN)
Yeah, and I got "peace in our time"
Posted by: Neville Chamberlain. at December 30, 2013 10:29 PM (0FSuD)
I healed the planet and made the ocean levels drop. Beat that, suckas!
Posted by: Jug Hussein Ears at December 30, 2013 06:33 PM (5l5UA)
Agreed. On the left, credentials grant you the right not to have to think very much. You are certified now, you can just talk from your spleen and whatever you produce will be wise by definition.
Posted by: Splunge at December 30, 2013 06:33 PM (bKA83)
The LCS is the F-35 which is the TFX Pt. 2.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 06:34 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 30, 2013 06:34 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 30, 2013 06:34 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 06:34 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:34 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 06:35 PM (aDwsi)
Thanks, Dick!
Posted by: stranded polar explorers at December 30, 2013 06:35 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 30, 2013 06:35 PM (AymDN)
IANAL, so I am just pulling this out of my ass, metaphorically, not actually, as IANAL -
These so-called rescue attempts were to rescue the ship, the meat bags on boat are purely secondary concern - per the ship's insurer, is it worth chartering an icebreaker to get the ship out? Once, yes, twice, ye, third no - cutting losses.
Unless the meat-bags life insurance companies are willing to foot the bill to pull the meatbags out- ef em ('cause the cost of rescue is more than the meatbags thought their own lives were worth)
- tenderly yours
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 30, 2013 06:35 PM (80R0X)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:36 PM (0FSuD)
"The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order, ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order or men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it."
Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations, Chap. XI, Part III, "Rent of Land: Conclusion".
Posted by: Heck's Angel at December 30, 2013 06:36 PM (rCS6C)
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I resemble that remark.
TR
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2013 06:36 PM (4Mv1T)
Woody Wilson being spanked in a foreign adventure? Oh my.
Note, Wilson's invasion of Russia on behalf of the "Whites" was also a folly. By that point, whoever took over Russia was going to do it upon a mountain of skulls. Kolchak and Denikin were, if anything, worse than Trotsky and equals to Stalin and Hitler.
If Wilson had fucked up twice that might have discredited liberalism forever.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 06:37 PM (Xfl0F)
Well, why would they? It's brewed in Fort Worth.
I'd be surprised if they could even get it down there.
You've got to hand it to them, though.
Any nation with a beer called "Tooth's Sheaf" has pretty good dentition.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 06:37 PM (xq1UY)
We'll be fixing that real soon, round-eye.
Posted by: Surplus 40 Million Chinese Males at December 30, 2013 06:38 PM (vgH+s)
Posted by: Trevor@TJexcite at December 30, 2013 06:38 PM (bkAvJ)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 06:38 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:38 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Meremortal, smooth t tinfoil at December 30, 2013 06:38 PM (jTKU5)
We've got $50 million that says that the charade can continue for a while longer.
Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at December 30, 2013 06:39 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:40 PM (0FSuD)
As to bitchy face, for years I have used the self invented term 'pain face' (mostly to myself). Because I needed a word to describe people that look like they suck on lemons all day long. The Germans probably do have a word for the look.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 30, 2013 06:40 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 06:40 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Zombie Mao Zedong at December 30, 2013 06:40 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 06:40 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 06:40 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:43 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Actual Progressive History at December 30, 2013 06:43 PM (sOtz/)
Some beer is all marketing, really. Mostly lagers that may have rice or corn in them. But some beer is just really really good.
Posted by: Splunge at December 30, 2013 06:44 PM (bKA83)
Tibet isn't Yemen. Well, mentally, yeah, but kick-ass stupidity...oh, I see where you're going with this.
Posted by: Corona at December 30, 2013 06:44 PM (fh2Y7)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:45 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 30, 2013 06:45 PM (KuZ6A)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 30, 2013 06:45 PM (FlRtG)
What? You expect equality with republicans mixing with everybody else?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 30, 2013 06:45 PM (80R0X)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 10:08 PM (0FSuD)
Not only is she a Green, she is also a carpet-muncher, NTTAWWT. I wonder if she munches Astroturf?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2013 06:45 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Meremortal, smooth t tinfoil at December 30, 2013 06:46 PM (jTKU5)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:46 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Joe at December 30, 2013 06:46 PM (69fz+)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 30, 2013 06:46 PM (ojnk6)
Aussies really don't drink Foster's much, it's not that popular down under. A co-worker friend from Australia was visiting the US some years ago and turned up his nose to Fosters.
It's all marketing. Like Stringer said, the Fosters in the US is brewed in Fort Worth.
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 10:40 PM
It's largely VB and XXXX that gets drunk. There's a lot of Toohey's on tap in Sydney, also.
Posted by: otho at December 30, 2013 06:47 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 30, 2013 06:47 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 06:47 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:48 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 06:48 PM (bb5+k)
Don't forget pulque. which is Nahua for "phlegm of the gods"
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 06:48 PM (Xfl0F)
Posted by: biday, mate! at December 30, 2013 06:48 PM (R6JT1)
Posted by: Joe who is a beer snob at December 30, 2013 06:49 PM (69fz+)
Didn't the Vietnamese hand the PLA's asses to them in the late 70s?
Posted by: Armando at December 30, 2013 06:49 PM (vgH+s)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 30, 2013 06:49 PM (V4CBV)
Posted by: Meremortal, smooth t tinfoil at December 30, 2013 06:49 PM (jTKU5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 30, 2013 06:49 PM (JpFMR)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:49 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at December 30, 2013 06:50 PM (noB3y)
Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 30, 2013 06:50 PM (KuZ6A)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 30, 2013 06:50 PM (JpFMR)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 06:51 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2013 06:51 PM (aqMrr)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:51 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Joe who is a beer snob at December 30, 2013 06:53 PM (69fz+)
Come on, Man. It's just Brown University, not a full-scale invasion.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 06:54 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 30, 2013 06:54 PM (dwArK)
If the communists invaded Brown, how could we tell?
Posted by: Armando at December 30, 2013 06:55 PM (vgH+s)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 06:56 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 30, 2013 10:49 PM
Actually, it's because it was originally used as rat poison. True story.
Posted by: otho at December 30, 2013 06:56 PM (9gNQd)
But when I do, I drink a European label that you can't afford and can't pronounce
Posted by: The Most Interesting Man in the World at December 30, 2013 06:56 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 06:56 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Carol at December 30, 2013 06:56 PM (z4WKX)
RCN Pamela Anderson was refitted a number of times, but rendered top heavy, rolled over and sank. (RCN Jennifer Tilly had similar design problems and was sold to the USCG, for shallow operations off of Quahog, RI)
RCN Celine Dion was dry docked and then abandoned in Las Vegas.
RCN Shania Twain is confined to operations in narrow channels.
RCN Alanis Morrisette was specially fitted for operating in darkness but has been relegated to ceremonial functions.
RCN Jim Carrey just sucked and was left to drift.
Posted by: Timothy Fountain at December 30, 2013 06:56 PM (XZNzU)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 30, 2013 06:56 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 30, 2013 06:56 PM (eHIJJ)
They think it's cool. It's cheap.
What it is, is a legacy of Prohibition. In the immediate aftermath of Prohibition, only 3.2% beer was legal. But if you brew with only Barley Malt, you'll be at 5% or so. So they added other things, and that style, which some people came to like because it went down easy on a hot day, has persisted.
Posted by: Splunge at December 30, 2013 06:57 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Joe who is a beer snob at December 30, 2013 06:57 PM (69fz+)
Evening all. Back on Nights
Congrats to Ace for 10 years, from a scrupulously clean Scandi.
(I took a bath....once)
Posted by: PMRich at December 30, 2013 06:58 PM (KDUNf)
SHARKBERG!!!
Posted by: kbdabear at December 30, 2013 06:58 PM (aTXUx)
This is the little noticed Democracy Initiative which " seeks to alter process in three areas: 1) bloating the voter rolls and attacking election integrity laws, 2) restricting the filibuster, 3) restricting political speech through restricting financial participation."
It's pretty straight forward and the Dems are focused and moving it along.So, what are the Republicans or the Tea Party prepared to do?
There never seems to be a plan.
Posted by: gracepmc at December 30, 2013 06:58 PM (rznx3)
No, it wasn't over at all. Ludendorf expected to win up until shortly before the end of the war. The Germans most certainly would not have settled. And as has already been pointed out, Lenin probably still would have been installed, and from there we ineluctably get Stalin. (because I like saying ineluctably, that's why)
Wilson was an ass, but getting involved in the war was the right thing to do from an American interest pov.
No Arrogant TR, No Wilson, No Treaty of Versailles, No Weimar Republic, (Possibly no Stalin) No Hitler, No World War II, no Atomic Bomb, possibly no Communist China, and so on.
When you look at how close we came to utter catastrophe and losing that war, I'm astonished you think it was the worst possible outcome. Things turned out pretty damn well by world historical standards. The fact that you're posting your opinion on the intertubes confirms that.
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2013 06:58 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 06:59 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 30, 2013 06:59 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 07:00 PM (bb5+k)
I drink scotch.
So did I...and then I got to like rye in all its forms, and somehow, along the way, I lost most of my taste for scotch.
I am not happy about this, but it happened.
Posted by: Splunge at December 30, 2013 07:00 PM (bKA83)
RCN Pamela Anderson was refitted a number of times, but rendered top heavy, rolled over and sank. (RCN Jennifer Tilly had similar design problems and was sold to the USCG, for shallow operations off of Quahog, RI)
RCN Celine Dion was dry docked and then abandoned in Las Vegas.
RCN Shania Twain is confined to operations in narrow channels.
RCN Alanis Morrisette was specially fitted for operating in darkness but has been relegated to ceremonial functions.
RCN Jim Carrey just sucked and was left to drift.
Posted by: Timothy Fountain at December 30, 2013 10:56 PM
RCN William Shatner - still calling on every port with a 5 star whorehouse
Posted by: kbdabear at December 30, 2013 07:00 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 30, 2013 07:00 PM (KuZ6A)
You are - albeit implicitly - assuming that democracy is a step forward from monarchy, rather than an entropic decay from monarchy . . .
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 07:00 PM (Xfl0F)
And monkeys MIGHT fly out of my butt. I'm not counting on it, though.
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2013 07:00 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Trevor@TJexcite at December 30, 2013 10:38 PM (bkAvJ)
And last I heard, they are still all in for refit, owing to the fact that one of them experienced an electrical fire on board during the voyage over from the UK, causing the death of one seaman.
And our sole post-WWII aircraft carrier, HMCS Bonaventure, was scrapped in 1971. We had the third-largest Navy in the world at the close of WWII, although mostly destroyers and corvettes for anti-sub warfare.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2013 07:01 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Armando at December 30, 2013 10:55 PM (vgH+s)
They'd force everyone to take a shower, thus driving down the smell?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 30, 2013 07:02 PM (lr3d7)
RCN Dan Ackroyd -- seemingly ready for the refitting yards, and yet you hope that it may come through in a great battle someday.
Posted by: Splunge at December 30, 2013 07:02 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 30, 2013 07:02 PM (V4CBV)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 07:02 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Joe who is a beer snob at December 30, 2013 07:03 PM (69fz+)
Posted by: Meremortal, smooth t tinfoil at December 30, 2013 07:04 PM (jTKU5)
No, they really didn't.
We'd probably still be posting our opinions on the intertubes if Kaiser Bill had won. We might have to be doing it in German if we wanted to be understood east of Strassbourg "im Elsass", but that's really not that big a deal.
And since Hitler would have been painting pictures in Munich in this contrafactual, some of us could even be doing that in Yiddish.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 07:04 PM (Xfl0F)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 07:04 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Carol at December 30, 2013 07:05 PM (z4WKX)
The worst aspect was the involvement with anti-semitism. Although Jews had no bed of roses in the new soviet world, in central Europe Marxism was seen as a Jewish doctrine. Many Germans who happily shipped off their Jewish neighbors just thought of them as so many leftists, and on the grand scale, Jews as a group did not do a lot to oppose the misapprehension. Then again, things got late early.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 07:05 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 30, 2013 07:06 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: John Boehner at December 30, 2013 07:06 PM (sOtz/)
Cthulhu,
If I roast the tomatoes, what temp should I put the oven on? 350?
Posted by: Carol at December 30, 2013 10:56 PM (z4WKX)
That's one of the many wonderful things about the recipe -- it's extremely forgiving. You can make it to accompany anything that's in the oven at any reasonable temperature (300-425). Just check it ever so often after about 10 minutes -- when the chunks start having browning on their tips, it's done.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 07:07 PM (T1005)
As God is my witness...
Posted by: frozen Arthur Carlson at December 30, 2013 07:07 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 30, 2013 07:07 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 30, 2013 07:07 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 07:09 PM (0FSuD)
Yes, they really did. Look, we can argue hypotheticals all night, but that fact is that the human race had reached the point where we could build things like nukes, and yet madmen like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Obama didn't get the chance to destroy the world because we and others stopped them in time. Again, the fact that we are here arguing about it openly is historically anomalous.
I wonder if we'll be so fortunate when some future loon decides it would be a good idea to unleash engineered viruses.
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2013 07:09 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 07:09 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 07:09 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 30, 2013 07:09 PM (eHIJJ)
Is pissing across the border really considered "export"?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 30, 2013 07:10 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: seamrog at December 30, 2013 07:11 PM (LZRQs)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 07:12 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 30, 2013 07:13 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 07:13 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 07:13 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 07:14 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 30, 2013 07:14 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 07:16 PM (dCwZe)
And then you go on and write a long reply... Posted by: AltonJackson
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Haven't you noticed at the HQ?
The words just seem to type themselves??
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2013 07:16 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 11:09 PM (f1IeF)
Oh, I understand OK. Carriers are mainly a means of projecting power at a distance, and that's not really Canada's bag, anyway. But if I were in charge of naval procurement, I would order a dozen or so nuclear-powered hunter-killer subs, and make sure they were suitable for long patrols under the Arctic ice. And some nuclear-powered icebreakers, even if we had to buy them from Russia. Look at a map to see why.
And a couple of boomers, with missiles to go with, because nothing projects power like a mushroom cloud on some middle-eastern pest-hole.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2013 07:17 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 07:17 PM (0FSuD)
The invention of the atomic bomb was probably the one time history took a better turn, though not obviously for those who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. To any imbecile who wants to say: "Visualize a world without nuclear weapons" to me, I'd answer: "Here, let me strap you down and force you to watch the deaths of over 50 million people in World War II, all but those in the last week or so exclusively caused by conventional weapons."
At the rate this species was going by 1945, the invention of the A-bomb probably has saved a billion lives, including most of our grandfathers and great uncles and therefore most of us.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2013 07:17 PM (TM1p8)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 30, 2013 07:17 PM (WdbF7)
And then you go on and write a long reply...
Posted by: AltonJackson
-----------------------------------
Haven't you noticed at the HQ?
The words just seem to type themselves??
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2013 11:16 PM (4Mv1T)
I'm definitely in as notoxicated as thinkle peep.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 07:18 PM (T1005)
Did you all see this Forbes article today? It's really, really good:
The Coming Revelation Of The 'Global Warming' Fraud Resembles The Obamacare Lie
http://tinyurl.com/qe78z83
It's all about the wealth-redistribution truth behind it and how even the IPCC had to admit that there was no warming for the last 15 yrs even tho CO2 rose 7%.
Now that GW/CC has been so thoroughly debunked, I want my lightbulbs back!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 30, 2013 07:19 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 07:19 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Bil at December 30, 2013 07:19 PM (CNua6)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 07:19 PM (0FSuD)
Sorry.
Posted by: Timothy Fountain at December 30, 2013 07:20 PM (XZNzU)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 11:14 PM (xq1UY)
Don't forget IPA! India Pale Ale, made extra hoppy, because hops help preserve the brew.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2013 07:20 PM (60Q+L)
Said the RINO.
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2013 07:20 PM (6TB1Z)
ICBM - Inter Continental Beer Munitions.
Bop a Mullah in under 30 minutes with a beer.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 07:20 PM (f1IeF)
Big mistake!!
Posted by: the Great Vezzinni at December 30, 2013 07:20 PM (Ua6T/)
Side note, there were two major plagues in China in the first quarter of the century, either of which had the capacity to cut the population in half. Despite our conviction that only American missionaries worked there, there were Germans both protestant and catholic, and they had German chemistry backing them up. I think it's fair to say that German civilian involvement controlled those. A little piece of German do-goodery that gets washed away by all the other German things that were going on.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 07:20 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 07:21 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 30, 2013 07:22 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 30, 2013 11:19 PM (KL49F)
Good effing luck, the old boys' club has spoken.
Posted by: Rep Fred Upton (Idiot-MI) at December 30, 2013 07:22 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 07:22 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 07:23 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 30, 2013 07:23 PM (AsNwg)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 30, 2013 07:24 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Bil at December 30, 2013 11:19 PM (CNua6)
Aaargh! Labatt's Blue: proof that Pakis piss in bottles. (or so I am told)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2013 07:24 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 30, 2013 07:24 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 07:24 PM (f1IeF)
I'll never forgive W for being a dupe to this hoax!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 30, 2013 07:24 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 07:26 PM (dCwZe)
True dat, pilgrim.
Posted by: John Wayne IS Genghis Khan IN The Conqueror at December 30, 2013 07:27 PM (vgH+s)
The Schadenfreude has been strong with that Antarctica story! In fact, 2013, as "bad" as it was, is filled to the gills with Schadenfreude for conservatives! BUT, did you read the statement these "scientists" put out today? They claim the ice they're stuck in is BECAUSE of, you guessed it... Global Warming:
http://tinyurl.com/mxdvc6x
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 30, 2013 07:28 PM (KL49F)
But, the will, damnit, what happened to our want to
Posted by: Zombie Curtis Le May at December 30, 2013 07:28 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Carol at December 30, 2013 07:29 PM (z4WKX)
IIRC Brandy was invented as a shipping cost solution for wine.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 30, 2013 07:30 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: Zombie Curtis Le May at December 30, 2013 07:30 PM (4JkHl)
http://tinyurl.com/mxdvc6x
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 30, 2013 11:28 PM (KL49F)
The science is settled, after all this was a scientific expedition conducted in SUMMER in the Southern hemisphere.
Posted by: Rep Fred Upton (Idiot-MI) at December 30, 2013 07:31 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 11:21 PM (sOtz/)
And that's the important difference. An atomic bomb could lay waste to a city or an army in seconds, where once it required months or years of preparation, tens or hundreds of thousands of men, supplies, ships, etc. It changed the calculus in war planners' minds. Absent the bombs, how many nations would be willing to gamble that they were too far away and just tough enough to win a fight against the US or some other power that got involved in their affairs?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 30, 2013 07:31 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 07:32 PM (f1IeF)
http://angryjoeshow.com/2013/12/youtube-copyright-disaster-angry-rant/
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 07:33 PM (Xfl0F)
Posted by: Bil at December 30, 2013 11:19 PM
It was pretty popular in the 60's and especially the 70's. Fosters was actually a decent drop back then and it seemed to benefit from being more commonly in cans, rather than stubbies, like most other brands at the time. It kind of dropped off during the 80's compared to the 70's, but it was not uncommon. Still on tap in a lot of places then. I think something happened in the brewing process, too. Used to be made with a lot of sugar or something. Dunno. But for awhile in the 70's qand early 80's it was the choice for drink quick- get drunk young reprobate crowd.
Posted by: otho at December 30, 2013 07:34 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Looking Glass at December 30, 2013 07:34 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 07:35 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2013 07:35 PM (BC6cY)
I think Imperial Stout was also an export solution, as is, of course, every beer originally called "Export" (barring some new ones that are just marketed that way). Hops and alcohol are damned good preservatives. So is salt. We come by our vices honestly.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 07:36 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 07:36 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 07:36 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at December 30, 2013 07:37 PM (GaqMa)
and 7 warshots, shared on a rotation determined by a hand of gin at the Admiralty
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 07:38 PM (4JkHl)
There was an article last week about the ban and the Home Depot "expert" actually said that the "replacement" bulbs last FORTY YEARS! LOL! We've known for years now that those damn things do NOT last nearly as long as was claimed, plus you need a Hazmat team to come in case you break one.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 30, 2013 07:39 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 07:39 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 07:39 PM (aDwsi)
I think they should just claim that the ship is stuck in 'white mud', a result of all teh global warmening.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 30, 2013 07:40 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: The Kaiser's Hat at December 30, 2013 07:41 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 30, 2013 07:42 PM (AsNwg)
Posted by: Carol at December 30, 2013 07:42 PM (z4WKX)
I have to go to bed soon, but I thought I'd pop in and comment on the science gone amuck thing in the post.
One of the projects I don't hate time for, as it got shafted for my current animal based dissertation projected involved public trust in science.
I have this odd theory that we are no longer doing science as it its traditionally conceived, but rather we're just ding "bias confirmation"
I ahve several thoughts wise, ranging from the "weaponization" of science for political purposes, grant funding, human nature, etc.
Maybe some day i'll get a chance to put all on this paper.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at December 30, 2013 11:37 PM (GaqMa)
That would also explain the rampant level of fraudulent published papers (and theses). But I think it's something much deeper and more personal than bias confirmation -- I think it's the triumph of credentialism over achievement.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 07:43 PM (T1005)
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I entertain myself all over again some mornings just trying to figure out what I said the night before.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2013 07:43 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: D-Lamp at December 30, 2013 10:14 PM (bb5+k)
The novel Solaris by Stanislaw Lem is much better than the Soviet/Tarkovsky film, which in turn is much better than the Hollywood/Soderbegh movie that was based on the earlier film rather than directly on the novel.
Posted by: DKCZ at December 30, 2013 07:43 PM (aE5XN)
Posted by: shredded chi, the young curmudgeon at December 30, 2013 07:44 PM (hW6y3)
http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/wordpress/review-the-royal-navy-2013-2015
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 07:45 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at December 30, 2013 07:46 PM (GaqMa)
My sister got a letter today from Blue Cross that started with advice on what to do if she cannot read the letter.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 30, 2013 07:47 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2013 07:49 PM (qyfb5)
So, mounted horde vs. atomic bomb, no contest really.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 07:49 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 30, 2013 07:50 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 07:50 PM (f1IeF)
I've seen billboard print ads for literacy hotlines here!
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 30, 2013 07:50 PM (8AHeV)
Granted, Germany needed a better Kapitän than it got . . . but honestly, compared to Wilson, Asquith, Lloyd George, Haig, Clemenceau, and Tsar Nicky the Deuce: Kaiser Bill might not even have been the dumbest upper class twit in the West at the time
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 07:51 PM (Xfl0F)
Posted by: Burp at December 30, 2013 07:51 PM (8HiDF)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 07:51 PM (aDwsi)
However, our universities teach students from all over the world, and they don't send their best and brightest to be Gender Studies or Aztec History majors ..
Posted by: kbdabear at December 30, 2013 07:52 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Carol at December 30, 2013 07:53 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Epobirs
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It might be a new world order. My first ancestor on Dad's side got here in 1720 and had an 1800 acre King's Grant. He signed with an X. I'll not mention how many slaves were in his will, since that's nothing to be proud of, but illiteracy has not always been an impediment to wealth.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2013 07:53 PM (4Mv1T)
A famous editorial cartoon from back in the day:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropping_the_pilot
It's absolutely amazing how much alternate history can be spun out of small changes in policymaking personages. Especially with reference to WWI, which was one of those enormous inflection points that led to many hugely important subsequent events.
Consider: WWI is never fought. Or, America stays out. Or, Germany emerges victorious. Or, the sealed train containing Lenin is never dispatched to the Finland Station. Or, the young Adolf Hitler succumbs to his combat injuries.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 30, 2013 07:54 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 07:54 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at December 30, 2013 07:54 PM (ssRIM)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 07:55 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at December 30, 2013 07:55 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 07:56 PM (sOtz/)
When I served in NATO forces in Germany, there were competitions among the forces, emphasizing infantry, armor and artillery.
The Canadian infantry were frequent winners in those competitions. The low-down on them was: physically tough, outdoorsy, and very resourceful (maintained effective operations when faced with lack of supply, adverse weather, or pretty much any other problem.) They would adapt and overcome challenges.
So, glad they're on our side (and we on theirs).
Posted by: Timothy Fountain at December 30, 2013 07:56 PM (XZNzU)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2013 07:57 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at December 30, 2013 07:58 PM (ssRIM)
Posted by: The Hickster at December 30, 2013 07:58 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 07:59 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 08:00 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 08:00 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 30, 2013 08:01 PM (JMmQ9)
Davy Crockett was pretty darn miniature.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 30, 2013 08:01 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at December 30, 2013 08:01 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 11:43 PM (T1005)
The academic world isn't just infiltrated by the left, it's owned lock, stock and barrel.
You see the same kind of behavior in the MFM and bureaucracies and it's bled into society at large - the inability to discuss coherently and calmly because it is impossible to challenge the premise - and that's critically devastating in science.
Well, it's devastating everywhere, but it's a "core competency failure" in science.
The more I look into it the more I see scientists have as much in common with used car salesmen as not. And that's very, very sad.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2013 11:49 PM (qyfb5)
There was an interesting piece I read a while back about how famous people in the past quite often did extraordinary things at what seem today very young ages -- John Paul Jones captured the Serapis when he was 32; Marie Curie won her first Nobel at 35; Hamilton was writing the Federalist papers at 35....where, today, you're expected to be on your parent's health insurance until you're 27.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 08:02 PM (T1005)
Plus, their landmass is big enough to provide us with enough distance for practical intercepts. Sort of the modern Ukraine.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:03 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Joe who is a beer snob at December 30, 2013 08:04 PM (69fz+)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 08:05 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The Scientific Hat at December 30, 2013 08:05 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Carol at December 30, 2013 08:05 PM (z4WKX)
Davy Crockett was pretty darn miniature.
Posted by: torquewrench
But not accurate enough, nor built for re-entry. I have suspicions there were other issues with that design as well, that went un-discussed so the Army could have a seat the big boy table in the building.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:05 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 30, 2013 08:06 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 08:08 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: The Null Hypothesis at December 30, 2013 08:08 PM (sOtz/)
Revolt that was quashed. What if the wartime revolt had been similarly quashed?
How does Bolshevism shake out if the galvanizing figure of Lenin is still in exile?
Does a communist clique still seize power under Trotsky, or Stalin, or one of the later-liquidated Old Bolshevik figures? Or does Russia end up for the long haul with a mild social-democratic government under Kerensky or some similar figure instead of going Communist at all?
Posted by: torquewrench at December 30, 2013 08:09 PM (gqT4g)
Of course, many other programs should have been killed - but had political top cover.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:09 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 30, 2013 08:09 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: The Scientific Hat at December 30, 2013 08:09 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Filly at December 30, 2013 08:10 PM (gr/p1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 08:11 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 08:12 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 08:13 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 08:13 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: RWC at December 30, 2013 08:14 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 08:14 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 08:14 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The Scientific Hat at December 30, 2013 08:15 PM (AymDN)
Playing what if is fun. Here's a what if for y'all--what if Hitler HADN'T attacked Russia?
What do you think would have been the outcome?
Posted by: irongrampa at December 30, 2013 08:15 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Fleischmann & Pons at December 30, 2013 08:17 PM (aDwsi)
Crummy stat, use the numbers that exclude infant and early childhood mortality. If you made it thru the infectious fog to your teens and survived giving birth as a women - the life spans havent changed much. We are are just a lazy bunch of shits.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:18 PM (4JkHl)
True. But the physics package would have been small enough to be stuffed into today's re-entry vehicles.
Although, jeez, you have to wonder about just removing the secondary from something like the modern W-88 warhead so that it would be all just the small fission yield from the primary.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 30, 2013 08:19 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: shredded chi, the young curmudgeon at December 30, 2013 08:19 PM (hW6y3)
Posted by: Vendette at December 30, 2013 08:19 PM (L7WG+)
Then you pay the guy wrote did the original work to do it again - with rigorous oversight and some asshole Lt Col from Hollis' shop riding the data.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:20 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Lazy Shit at December 30, 2013 08:20 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The Scientific Hat at December 30, 2013 08:20 PM (AymDN)
University research was always owned, lock stock and barrel, by someone or other. For many of us, engineering was a trade school for a corporation, and physics was the triple-A for government space and weapons research...and we were fine with that. That's a bias. To universalize the concept of research bias, you have to look farther out and farther back than the one/two generations of the current line of bullshit, and recognize the other flavors.
The idea that university departments are even supposed to be the cutting edge of new projects is fairly recent, and, it irks me to say it, pretty damned statist. The great research labs were always part of a privately controlled institute, a business, or a wealthy amateur's estate, until this last century. Then the Germans built that weapons lab shaped like the Kaiser's hat, and the race was on. At this point, we still feel cozy with the notion because Moonshot, but our doubled-edged sword has turned on us hasn't it.
In engineering, there was an English school and a French school (of thought) in the 18th century. Franklin commented on the superiority of English experiment design, and the superior work habits of English researchers. West Point came down hard on one side of the scale, and the impact of its [engineering] graduates left a heavy mark on the profession in the US in the two generations in which it was the only game in town. In chemistry, well, duPont was a refugee from France, developed a gunpowder less susceptible to damp (in a blue state!), sold it all to our side, and there you go. About the time the Puritan establishment lost control of Harvard.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 08:21 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: shredded chi, the young curmudgeon at December 30, 2013 08:21 PM (hW6y3)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 08:21 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2013 12:05 AM (4JkHl)
I have read about the Davy Crockett several times. It was a small missile that could be launched from a Jeep or other small vehicle. 15kt warhead, IIRC. Intended for things like stopping a column of tanks in the Fulda Gap. I saw criticism of it for reason that the crew firing it were within the blast radius of the warhead. Well, who would know better that an A-bomb was about to go off at point X than the guys who launched the damn thing? Push the button, then get your ass in a slit trench, or hunker down behind a rock wall or one of your own tanks, so you have shelter from the immediate blast and radiation flash. The fallout might get you. Or not. But you would remain an effective fighter for a few days, even if you were to absorb an ultimately lethal dose of fallout. Not so if you got a lethal does from direct exposure to radiation from the fireball.
Personally, I believe the biggest issue with miniaturized nuke weapons is that they made the idea of first use more palatable, and raised the specter of an ever-increasing nuclear exchange, back in the day when mutually-assured destruction was the mantra.But it seems to me that mini-nukes would be just dandy for dealing with rogue states with few or no nukes of their own, but otherwise well-armed and dangerous. Saddam Hussein, exhibit A.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2013 08:21 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: RWC at December 30, 2013 08:21 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 08:21 PM (BXLPR)
Then Mike there is the HMCS James Doohan.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 08:22 PM (f1IeF)
Thats where I was heading, something small enough to say wipe out the harbor at Haiphong or immolate Kharj Is. without making a big mess.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:23 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 08:24 PM (dCwZe)
The older I get the more worried I become that the moon landing never happened and that China or some other nation is going to send a rover to the moon and prove it. China is there now. Seems strange that we were able to do it forty years ago but such a notion now is preposterous. NOT a conspiracy guy. Just a dope wondering "what if" we faked the whole fucking thing to mash balls in Russian faces years ago?
Yes I expect, hope and want to be wrong.
Posted by: JDW at December 30, 2013 08:25 PM (dmhUI)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 12:02 AM (T1005)
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In the 1700s average life expectancy was about 40. It was higher for the upper classes, but not a lot higher. So at 35 in the 1700s you'd be the equivalent of 50s/60s today.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2013 12:09 AM (0LHZx)
That's a common misconception -- much of the life expectancy differential was focused pre-puberty. As an example, the individuals mentioned made it to 45, 66, and 49 -- but were felled by acute kidney failure, radiation sickness, and Aaron Burr, respectively. Their life expectancy otherwise wasn't all that different from today's once they hit adulthood.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 08:25 PM (T1005)
I had always figured that if Hitler had refrained, Stalin would have waited for an opening and then attacked Germany.
Those suspicions were strengthened by the book _Icebreaker_, written by a Cold War era Soviet military intelligence defector. He averred that the USSR had been quietly gearing up to do just that when the Nazis preempted.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 30, 2013 08:26 PM (gqT4g)
A good friend had an ADM as a Lt, and the lead wire were far shorter then the blast radius. He aslo had a Senior NCO who would shoot him if he didn't execute the firing sequence if ordered.
The Russians were never going to penetrate the Fulda Gap. Period.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:27 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 30, 2013 08:27 PM (mck3/)
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Umm... That's not water. Just saying.###
Yes it was full of seamen first.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 30, 2013 08:28 PM (TI3xG)
Hernan Cortes' @ 33 entrusted to basically take over the New World as it existed at the time. And he did.
Posted by: JDW at December 30, 2013 08:28 PM (dmhUI)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 30, 2013 08:29 PM (Xfl0F)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 30, 2013 08:29 PM (AsNwg)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 30, 2013 08:29 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 30, 2013 08:29 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 08:29 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 08:30 PM (f1IeF)
I looked up the lyrics and first Google hit was-- wait for it-- Slate writing all about how this wonderful important song was "misunderstood."
We need Slate around in the burning times to remind us of what summoned SMOD to begin with. I hope they have plenty of server back-up.
Posted by: Filly at December 30, 2013 08:30 PM (gr/p1)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 08:31 PM (sOtz/)
I don't think "entrusted" is the word your looking for ... They wanted to get rid of him and sent him off to die, except he didnt.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:31 PM (4JkHl)
BTH - dude, I am with you. But, really...if we manufactured that whole thing and it is eventually proven that we did - FUCK!!
It'd make a great screenplay. American officials having to suddenly scramble to create various landing sites in 2013 or so that we claimed were always there but never really happened. (Just ate another tab).
Posted by: JDW at December 30, 2013 08:31 PM (dmhUI)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 08:32 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 30, 2013 08:33 PM (aDwsi)
Jean - when I read a biography of Cortes and the part about his crew wanting to grab the easy gold given them by the natives and head home - and the dude BURNS THE BOATS!
So there will be NO going back??!....straight-up gangsta shit!
Posted by: JDW at December 30, 2013 08:33 PM (dmhUI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 08:34 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2013 12:27 AM (4JkHl)
Point being that a nuclear bomb won't necessarily kill you within its blast radius if have something really, really solid to hide behind, or in. A deep trench would be ideal. The heat and radiation are strictly line of sight. The overpressure from the blast is not, but a trench will not collapse from that, unless it's ready to collapse at the slightest shake. A thick stone or concrete wall, or the mass of a tank should provide adequate shelter from the relatively small blast of a Davy Crockett device.
And what's to say you couldn't put the same warhead on a larger missile, with, say, a range of ten or twenty miles, or on a Predator drone?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 30, 2013 08:35 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 08:35 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Wallace & Gromit at December 30, 2013 08:36 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:36 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 08:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 08:38 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: navybrat at December 30, 2013 08:38 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:39 PM (4JkHl)
Interesting. Never considered that particular scenario.
Wondering about how well a thinly spread group of German forces would do trying to defend Spain's copiously vulnerable coastline against a potential UK expeditionary force. It might not end up in a Dunkirk-style retreat to the sea for the Brits.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 30, 2013 08:39 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 08:40 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at December 30, 2013 08:41 PM (ssRIM)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 08:42 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Rime of the Ancient Hat at December 30, 2013 08:42 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 08:42 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at December 30, 2013 08:43 PM (ssRIM)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 08:43 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Daybrother at December 30, 2013 08:45 PM (Og/JR)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 08:47 PM (EWsrI)
All you have to do is listen to Mexican AM radio. Or go to a Mexican school. They've been teaching that for 150 years. They even have a word for it: Reconquista.
Posted by: navybrat at December 30, 2013 08:47 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Joe who is a beer snob at December 30, 2013 08:48 PM (69fz+)
The Royal Navy was very dependent upon ports for refueling. When Home Fleet and Force H cornered and sank Bismarck, Home Fleet with Rodney was almost out of fuel. If Ark Royal had not crippled the battleship, it would have escaped. Due to lack of fuel on the Britain's part.
For Pacific operations in 1944-45, the Royal Navy did create the fleet train needed for that expansive ocean.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 08:48 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: The Hickster at December 30, 2013 08:48 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 30, 2013 08:48 PM (dCwZe)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 08:50 PM (sOtz/)
I've been fortunate enough to spend a few of the hours of my life talking engineering with some of the people who designed and built Apollo-Saturn.
You could never manage to come up with a completely consistent cover story, to include unpredictable technical fuck-ups, to that level of immensely in depth detail. Sorry. It happened. Just as the history books relate it.
There are two things about which all of those old engineers are completely consistent.
The first is, for Pete's sake, we were just getting to where we were really GOOD at going to the Moon when the politicians pulled the plug on the program. Some amazing science opportunities were left on the table. And the boosters had been built for a few more moonshots.
The second is that sooner or later there would have been a crew lost in flight, simply because of the distances and dangers involved, and the lack of backups for certain flight functions. CSM engine won't fire for transearth injection after the returned LM is jettisoned? Crew die in lunar orbit. No possible rescue option.
And really, if you go back and read the deliberations, a big part of what motivated the politicians was fear of another Apollo 13 scenario, except without the possibility of crew survival. It would have been a huge national trauma at a time when there were already more than enough of those going on.
Sadly, America still has not figured out that (in the words of one wise sage), "Perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world."
Posted by: torquewrench at December 30, 2013 08:50 PM (gqT4g)
That nobody reads now or plays for that matter...
Old post here from a faux new wire.
Whatever happened to this guy on the Nobel Prize winner's watch?
Thu 26-Aug-2010
Viktor Bout To Be Extradited By Auction
Alleged arms dealer to be sold to highest international bidder
BANGKOK (SFI) – The Foreign Ministry announced today a halt to the extradition proceedings of alleged Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout to the US. Instead, the former KGB agent and supposed inspiration for the film “Lord of War” will be extradited to the highest bidder in an attempt at fairness and transparency.
“The Russians lobbied hard to influence the original Criminal Court trial, which ended in their favor. Then the Americans lobbied hard to influence the appeals court decision, which they won. All this lobbying is hard for us to keep track of. So we think an outright auction is best,” said Sirisak Tiyaphan, director for international affairs at the Office of the Attorney General.
The process of deciding where to extradite Bout has caused chaos and gridlock among ThailandÂ’s competing government institutions, all of which want to extract some kind of gain from their piece of the process. As a result, competitive lack of co-operation has stalled the case, preventing anyone from being properly paid off.
“By auctioning him off publicly, and splitting the proceeds evenly between the courts, the police, and the Foreign Ministry, we can all come away happy,” said Chartchai Sutthiklom, director-general of the Corrections Department.
“Together we can,” he added.
The auction will be held at the Supreme Court next Monday at 9AM,with the bidding to begin at 100 million Baht. Main bidders expected to attend include the Russian government, the US State Department, Mossad, Congo president Joseph Kabila, and a consortium of Hollywood producers headed by Jerry Bruckheimer.
Posted by: Forty Baht Barack at December 30, 2013 08:51 PM (5iRMA)
Resupply through the mountains would have sucked, I believe there were only two or three rail lines at the time going north south.
The real scary scenario is if the rest of the Germany communication folks had used Enigma like the Germany Navy.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:51 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: CAC at December 30, 2013 08:53 PM (yYx8W)
IIRC in 1940 or 1941 the RN captured a German U-boat being used as a weather station up near Greenland.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 08:55 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2013 08:56 PM (sdi6R)
Unfortunately, there is this pesky treaty that we Americans will be held accountable to - but the Russians and Chinese (and Indians) will not. Personally I think the value is in the asteroids, anything good ejected by the moon impact probably fell back to earth.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 08:58 PM (4JkHl)
Suck it, rest of the Ys. That word rocks.
Posted by: CAC at December 31, 2013 12:53 AM (yYx8W)
1985?!? I have ties that are older than you are!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 08:58 PM (T1005)
????? So maybe they are as intelligent as man.
http://tinyurl.com/n9sty2o
No word yet on if certain dolphin "Youts" play the knockout game. (with REAL polar bears)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:00 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 30, 2013 09:00 PM (ojnk6)
parent's health insurance until you're 27."
Lindbergh was in a hurry to get fly to Paris because he just turned twenty seven and was off his moms healthcare plan. He was interested in getting some of that sweet European socialist healthcare.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 30, 2013 09:00 PM (IV4od)
I had read it this morning, and I thought the less of Rod Dreher for having written it.
But, it's the sort of piece that Time pays for, and Time wouldn't have run anything other on this topic than the sort of piece that they pay for.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 30, 2013 09:00 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 09:01 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 09:02 PM (BXLPR)
I suppose you're going to try to say he didn't get a classical education.
He had a really expensive tutor, and I know for a fact he studied Aristotle.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 09:03 PM (xq1UY)
I think they p[lay with sharks
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 09:03 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 09:04 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 09:05 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 30, 2013 09:06 PM (Xx3xL)
Posted by: My Name is Nobody at December 30, 2013 09:08 PM (5Q1ZU)
I suppose you're going to try to say he didn't get a classical education.
He had a really expensive tutor, and I know for a fact he studied Aristotle.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 31, 2013 01:03 AM (xq1UY)
It just goes to show how you can get a good education without chasing a bunch of useless degree requirements. Aristotle, BTW, made it to 62.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 09:08 PM (T1005)
If I were a Russian oligarch/multi-billionaire with a few hundred ex-KGB/Spetnaz types in my marketing department - that's how I would interpret it.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 09:08 PM (4JkHl)
1964: Beatlesque
I guess that having 4 #1 hits that year made comparing everything to them inevitable
Like the early mass communication / computer references
'63 cyberculture
'66 computernik
Posted by: PMRich at December 30, 2013 09:11 PM (KDUNf)
Another great 'what-if' to ponder is if the German commerce raider Atlantis had not captured SS Automedon. Would Japan have been able to win some of its victories? Would Japan have even gone to war in the first place?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 09:11 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: navybrat at December 30, 2013 09:12 PM (AW7Gr)
or had Sorge been ignored, I like the what if's that derive from a singular, improbable point.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 09:13 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at December 30, 2013 09:16 PM (ssRIM)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 09:17 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 09:19 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at December 30, 2013 09:19 PM (ssRIM)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 09:20 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 09:21 PM (BXLPR)
Playing what if is fun. Here's a what if for y'all--what if Hitler HADN'T attacked Russia?
What do you think would have been the outcome?
Posted by: irongrampa at December 31, 2013 12:15 AM (SAMxH)
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Germany would have run short of oil about the time they predicted they would. Perhaps they could have made a significant run at the middle east instead, but that would have exposed their naval weakness.
Posted by: jc at December 30, 2013 09:21 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 09:22 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 09:22 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2013 09:22 PM (sdi6R)
Degree requirements are not useless. Modern degrees do not have requirements, and that is what all the shouting is about.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 09:22 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 09:23 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: My Name is Nobody at December 30, 2013 09:23 PM (5Q1ZU)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:24 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 09:24 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:25 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:26 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 30, 2013 09:26 PM (Xx3xL)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:27 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: My Name is Nobody at December 30, 2013 09:27 PM (5Q1ZU)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 30, 2013 09:27 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:28 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:28 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 09:29 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:29 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 09:29 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 09:29 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:30 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: My Name is Nobody at December 30, 2013 09:30 PM (5Q1ZU)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 30, 2013 09:30 PM (Xx3xL)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, waiting on an apology on behalf of the KaBoom Kiddes at December 30, 2013 09:31 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:31 PM (RJMhd)
Paglia is precisely the kind of leftist I wish dominated the ideology. She's unafraid to hear a differing idea, disgusted at the prospect of silencing opposition, and rejects the mental illness-borne progressive fantasies that have nothing to do with reality.
Would that she were the potential worst-case scenario instead of Hillary.
Posted by: YourPoopyPants at December 30, 2013 09:31 PM (bOKSd)
Well YEAH.
It's where the rubber meets the road.
So what if you agree with me politically and then vote in a manner that shits all over what I believe?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:34 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 09:35 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 09:35 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:36 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 30, 2013 09:36 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 09:36 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Vendette at December 30, 2013 09:37 PM (L7WG+)
Or kept security at a minimum due to costs?
Who could stop the TSA tomorrow if they said they wouldn't allow them in the terminal anymore?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:37 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2013 09:37 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 01:29 AM (LSDdO)
***********
So missed 9/11?
Hmmmm.....
Shoot I guess I thought it was something about that crappy Rosewater law firm--but looking back on it----your theory might be right.
Off to go check the timing on that. Posted by: Karnaq
Sandy Burglar was NSC - so its likely that is was international in nature. I'll keep my suspicions privet - for 50yrs (it will give me incentive to see my late nineties.)
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 09:38 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 09:39 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 09:39 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: rickl at December 30, 2013 09:40 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 09:40 PM (4JkHl)
Ever watch fiddler crabs?
I had the opportunity to observe a large colony embedded into a back of a leg of a tidal estuary.
Tide comes in, they come out, tide goes out they go in.
Fascinating little f**kers.
Totally useless for anything except cleaning edible debris from sea water.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:41 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 09:41 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 09:41 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 09:42 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:42 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:43 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:43 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 30, 2013 09:43 PM (m3Cp/)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:43 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 30, 2013 09:44 PM (Xx3xL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 09:45 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:46 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Joe who is a beer snob at December 30, 2013 09:46 PM (69fz+)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:46 PM (RJMhd)
Speaking of one Belgians, no what-if love for Charlemagne?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 09:47 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 09:47 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: otho at December 30, 2013 09:48 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:48 PM (RJMhd)
I don't think any of them study french to pick up chicks in Montreal, they just wear plaid.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 09:49 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Vendette at December 30, 2013 09:49 PM (L7WG+)
Or we're a science project of some vast intelligence, man.
And they're studying us and shit, man. *takes toke*
And, and we're like a science project for some kid in super school, or something, man.
*takes toke*
what was I saying?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:50 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:50 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 09:51 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:51 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Adriane is easily confused ... at December 30, 2013 09:51 PM (m3Cp/)
Bitter Clinger, just never look up pony girls. Trust me. You will be wise not to.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 09:52 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 09:52 PM (EWsrI)
Fuck him. His son divided Europe and look where that got us.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:53 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Vendette at December 31, 2013 01:49 AM
As tempted as I am to retort... I can't touch this.
Posted by: otho at December 30, 2013 09:54 PM (9gNQd)
OHHHH no you don't.
That won't work on ME.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:55 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Joe who is a beer snob at December 30, 2013 09:55 PM (69fz+)
Posted by: Vendette at December 30, 2013 09:55 PM (L7WG+)
Posted by: torquewrench at December 31, 2013 12:50 AM (gqT4g)
I was fascinated to watch a video arguing for the truth of the Apollo flights based purely on the video footage created - it was technically impossible to fake the volume of video livestreams with the technology of the time.
Dug up the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 30, 2013 09:56 PM (ioT3q)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:56 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Adriane is easily confused ... at December 30, 2013 09:56 PM (m3Cp/)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 30, 2013 09:57 PM (u/7CQ)
Well otho way to go. Just don't go bankrupt like he did.
Bitter Clinger rushes in where angels fear to tread...
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 09:57 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 09:57 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 09:58 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Bart Sibrel at December 30, 2013 09:59 PM (m3Cp/)
Posted by: Daybrother at December 30, 2013 09:59 PM (/M5+2)
Posted by: Joe who is a beer snob at December 30, 2013 10:01 PM (69fz+)
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 10:01 PM (f1IeF)
I'm waiting for ours to show up.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 10:01 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: MSNBC at December 30, 2013 10:02 PM (m3Cp/)
You got me but all the kids on reddit are into it these days. Something about bored liberal arts majors making up newspeak.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cisgendered
Posted by: bestie21 at December 30, 2013 10:02 PM (AzO5R)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 30, 2013 10:02 PM (u/7CQ)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 10:03 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 10:04 PM (RJMhd)
They always screw around with the language.
Like scam artists and con men, it's the glib patter and strange words that gives them away to the observant.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 10:04 PM (LSDdO)
I'll have you know, if [a quarter of] Europe hadn't been divided, there'd have been no Lotharingia to flee to, and my wife's ancestors would have been slaughtered by the savage Switzers.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 10:04 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Pulp Fiction... at December 30, 2013 10:05 PM (m3Cp/)
So yes that one ship truly helped Japan decide to go for broke.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 10:05 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 10:07 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 30, 2013 10:08 PM (u/7CQ)
Posted by: Beagle at December 30, 2013 10:08 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 10:08 PM (4JkHl)
I read the Wall Street Journal, so I'm acutely aware of the widespread strikes in the garment industry. May affect the Spring line!
You should have seen how rocked they were by the sweatshops falling in, in Bangladesh. Crying their eyes out, they were. About ruined Lands' End.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 30, 2013 10:09 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 30, 2013 10:09 PM (u/7CQ)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 10:09 PM (LSDdO)
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a17/AS17-163-24137.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 10:11 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 10:11 PM (RJMhd)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCU9Hs5sEy0
Posted by: bestie21 at December 30, 2013 10:12 PM (AzO5R)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 30, 2013 10:12 PM (u/7CQ)
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a17/AS17-163-24155.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 10:13 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 30, 2013 10:15 PM (u/7CQ)
Posted by: Daybrother at December 30, 2013 10:16 PM (YwUqF)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 10:16 PM (RJMhd)
That's not the only one, but he prefers a lower profile at present....so we just use Wicket. It's close enough.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 10:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 10:20 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Vendette at December 31, 2013 01:49 AM
As tempted as I am to retort... I can't touch this.
Posted by: otho at December 31, 2013 01:54 AM (9gNQd)
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Well, allow me to retort.
Posted by: Jules Winnfield at December 30, 2013 10:20 PM (PlzOe)
By the time they get an alert out, your line of retreat should already be well lit.
Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2013 10:22 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 30, 2013 10:23 PM (LSDdO)
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a17/AS17-162-24070.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 10:26 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: Karnaq at December 30, 2013 10:30 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 30, 2013 10:33 PM (u/7CQ)
That's not the only one, but he prefers a lower profile at present....so we just use Wicket. It's close enough.
:-)
I've actually been reading this site and the old one for most of the ten years it's been up . I think I first found it and LGF at the same time using links from Drinking At Home which has sadly been defunct for many years. (I think I found Drinking At Home from Robert Spencer's site during my OMG we are all going to die any day phase when I worked for the Fed in DC).
All kidding aside this is without a doubt the best conservative site on the web. Hotair lacks the humor and really the intelligent commentary. LGF went full retard a long time ago. Most of the other blogs just can't produce content day in and day out that rates up there with AoSHQ. So thanks Ace for 10 years of hard work.
Posted by: bestie21 at December 30, 2013 10:35 PM (AzO5R)
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a17/AS17-134-20384.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 10:36 PM (f1IeF)
Posted by: tasker at December 30, 2013 10:39 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 30, 2013 10:39 PM (u/7CQ)
Posted by: Irene Adler at December 30, 2013 10:47 PM (m3Cp/)
They aren't reporting what's happening
Posted by: Thunderb at December 31, 2013 02:39 AM (u/7CQ)
We could all be happy working for our Communist/Islamist/Totalitarian/Utopian betters if everyone would just shut-up and grab their ankles like they're supposed to!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 10:50 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 30, 2013 10:51 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 10:52 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 30, 2013 10:54 PM (m3Cp/)
Posted by: Robert Plant at December 30, 2013 10:56 PM (T1005)
Really I love that show and can't wait, Downton too. If only PBS could make something worth watching it might be worth my tax dollars.
Posted by: bestie21 at December 30, 2013 10:58 PM (AzO5R)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 10:59 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 30, 2013 11:01 PM (m3Cp/)
BBC should have Sherlock Season 3 soon ... not that I'm a fan or anything ...
Really I love that show and can't wait, Downton too. If only PBS could make something worth watching it might be worth my tax dollars.
Posted by: bestie21 at December 31, 2013 02:58 AM (AzO5R)
......and that, right there, is the problem. Tax dollars. Fuck 'em upside-down and sideways -- "cultural programming" ain't in Article One, Section 8 of the Constitution and needs to find some other teat to suck.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 11:01 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2013 11:05 PM (d0bTF)
Posted by: Vendette at December 30, 2013 11:05 PM (L7WG+)
Posted by: Vendette at December 30, 2013 11:15 PM (L7WG+)
Posted by: Vendette at December 31, 2013 03:15 AM (L7WG+)
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Good prediction. Nothing improves incompetence like nepotism.
Posted by: jc at December 30, 2013 11:18 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 03:05 AM (d0bTF)
There never was. As Davy Crockett said during the debate about an award to Decatur's widow, Congress is not empowered to do that. The single greatest error in the Constitution is the failure to stipulate a penalty for Congress' violation of the restrictions therein, and if I were granted a "do-over", I'd be thinking hanging.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 11:19 PM (T1005)
With several hundred channels, there is no longer a need for PBS.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 03:05 AM (d0bTF)
There never was. As Davy Crockett said during the debate about an award to Decatur's widow, Congress is not empowered to do that. The single greatest error in the Constitution is the failure to stipulate a penalty for Congress' violation of the restrictions therein, and if I were granted a "do-over", I'd be thinking hanging.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 03:19 AM (T1005)
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Hanging is too good for them. The Code of Hammurabi answer would be slavery. After all, that is essentially what they are doing to you every time they tax a part of your life away to pay for their popularity with someone else.
Posted by: jc at December 30, 2013 11:38 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: fromabroad at December 30, 2013 11:39 PM (rnV3B)
606
With several hundred channels, there is no longer a need for PBS.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 03:05 AM (d0bTF)
There
never was. As Davy Crockett said during the debate about an award to
Decatur's widow, Congress is not empowered to do that. The single
greatest error in the Constitution is the failure to stipulate a penalty
for Congress' violation of the restrictions therein, and if I were
granted a "do-over", I'd be thinking hanging.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 03:19 AM (T1005)
===Hanging is too good for them. The Code of Hammurabi answer would be slavery. After all, that is essentially what they are doing to you every time they tax a part of your life away to pay for their popularity with someone else.
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 03:38 AM (PlzOe)
Wouldn't it be just delicious if every Supreme Court decision relating to a "Congress shall make no law...." clause [e.g. First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."] involved gallows? As in, "nope, that abridged the freedom of speech -- all you assholes that voted for it, queue up over there."
A couple of rounds of that, and we might even be governed as our Founding Fathers intended.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 11:47 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 30, 2013 11:51 PM (ShvtX)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 30, 2013 11:52 PM (ShvtX)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 31, 2013 03:51 AM (ShvtX)
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isn't it true that non-assless chaps are sometimes called trousers, breeches, or pants?
Posted by: jc at December 30, 2013 11:53 PM (PlzOe)
How many times do we need to go over this? "Assed chaps" are "pants." "Assless chaps" is like saying "motorless trailers" -- if they had a motor, they'd be a truck.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 11:55 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 31, 2013 03:52 AM (ShvtX)
It's old.
Unless you were there.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 30, 2013 11:56 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 03:47 AM (T1005)
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Whereupon they would be sold into slavery as a fitting punishment for their attempt to enslave us. If the buyer wanted to hang them, so be it. If the buyer had more despicable things in mind, that would be fine by me, too.
Posted by: jc at December 30, 2013 11:59 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: DAve at December 31, 2013 12:02 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 31, 2013 12:03 AM (ShvtX)
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kungfury/kung-fury?ref=home_popular
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2013 12:05 AM (d0bTF)
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 12:09 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 03:47 AM (T1005)
====Whereupon they would be sold into slavery as a fitting punishment for their attempt to enslave us. If the buyer wanted to hang them, so be it. If the buyer had more despicable things in mind, that would be fine by me, too.
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 03:59 AM (PlzOe)
Despite it being a universal part of human culture around the world, I'd have to say that chattel slavery is probably inherently corrupting, and it would be a good thing if it were eradicated worldwide (which, note, it hasn't been). While it might be a fitting punishment, I can't see where the efforts of maintaining the logistics of the legal/operational support for it would be a good thing. Leaving violating legislators dangling around the periphery of the National Mall, by contrast, has a salutary effect on those in the Capitol and requires little maintenance.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 12:13 AM (T1005)
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 04:09 AM (PlzOe)
I have been, and I don't think they've changed, but I haven't been focusing my Continuing Ed in tax for a few years. Whassup?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 12:15 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 31, 2013 12:18 AM (u/7CQ)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 04:15 AM (T1005)
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HVAC unit replacement with salvage value = zero. Unit was never separately accounted and has been part of a 39 yr SL of the entire building (commercial not residential) for 9 years. The HVAC unit is a "structural component" based on IRS definitions.
Can one estimate the value of just the HVAC unit at the start of depreciation and figure the loss as the difference between the estimated value and the amount of accumulated depreciation (to be based on the estimated value over the period held calc'd by 39 SL)?
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 12:24 AM (PlzOe)
Sometimes that entails obfuscation of inconvenient truths and other such things that our betters don't wish us to become worried about.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 12:24 AM (LSDdO)
Since it's not separate from the building. And in fact is necessary for the building to have value as an occupied space. Like the plumbing and the heating etc.
Now I think you can write off the cost of the replacement HVAC as a business expense.
But that's just a guess and with the IRS even the fully informed are not.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 12:28 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 31, 2013 04:18 AM (u/7CQ)
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because they get a paycheck and they don't believe in the accidental paycheck theory.
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 12:29 AM (PlzOe)
Since it's not separate from the building. And in fact is necessary for the building to have value as an occupied space. Like the plumbing and the heating etc.
Now I think you can write off the cost of the replacement HVAC as a business expense.
But that's just a guess and with the IRS even the fully informed are not.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 04:28 AM (LSDdO)
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trying to write it off as an expense is a great way to get your ass in a crack. It is definitely a 39SL item, and so is the replacement.
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 12:30 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 31, 2013 12:31 AM (LSDdO)
They are really upset that the Vietnamese own and run the factories, and the best jobs go to Vietnamese.
Why won't they report this story
Posted by: Thunderb at December 31, 2013 04:18 AM (u/7CQ)
There is an international cabal of Marxists -- heavily influenced by the Frankfurt School, but also encompassing Gramsci's "march through the institutions" [AKA, "take over the cheerleaders"], Critical Studies' "bitch about everything we don't run", Alinsky's "ruin everything we can't control", and Soros' "sell out to my profit just like I sold out fellow Jews to Nazis" -- who are all over the world hoping to loot everyone else. The oppressive Vietnam-supported regime are part of this group. The MSM is so thoroughly corrupted by this group that occasional breakouts of common sense are noteworthy.
Any questions?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 12:35 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 04:15 AM (T1005)
====HVAC unit replacement with salvage value = zero. Unit was never separately accounted and has been part of a 39 yr SL of the entire building (commercial not residential) for 9 years. The HVAC unit is a "structural component" based on IRS definitions.
Can one estimate the value of just the HVAC unit at the start of depreciation and figure the loss as the difference between the estimated value and the amount of accumulated depreciation (to be based on the estimated value over the period held calc'd by 39 SL)?
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 04:24 AM (PlzOe)
What result are you looking for? On first impression, you're going to do a "repair" on the thing and expense that 100% in the current year, while continuing to depreciate the aggregate. Is there a desired outcome that is different? Are there facts and circumstances that would make this complicated?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 12:39 AM (T1005)
Yeah but PBS doesn't make those shows. BBC makes those shows. :-)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 31, 2013 12:42 AM (AzO5R)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 04:35 AM (T1005)
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Aaahhhh, you just believe that cuz it is exactly what they said they were gonna do the whole time.
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 12:42 AM (PlzOe)
This, BTW, is the equivalent of the old joke's "what do you want it to be?"
I can tell the joke if you need a refresher.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 12:43 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Carol at December 31, 2013 12:44 AM (z4WKX)
http://tinyurl.com/2vxmaod
Now that is something worth seeing.
Posted by: bestie21 at December 31, 2013 12:45 AM (AzO5R)
I broke the Christmas Blessings type card when I wound up cuckoo clock, spilled coffee all over myself, blanket, floor & table.
The blanket & sweatshirt jacket I had on are in the dryer & I'm still sick.
Posted by: Carol at December 31, 2013 04:44 AM (z4WKX)
Sorry to hear. Sounds like a mess. Did the tomatoes work for you?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 12:47 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 04:39 AM (T1005)
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just the way I read the regs. Of course, I would prefer to expense it, but I am pretty sure that has been disallowed. I think I have to comp a loss and place the loss on a 4797.
a summary is here:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ltg5m8f
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ltg5m8f
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 12:56 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Carol at December 31, 2013 12:57 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 12:59 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Carol at December 31, 2013 01:15 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 04:59 AM (T1005)
OK, skimmed your link. *rolls eyes* 263A, again? I was on the front-lines of the original clusterfuck. After years -- and I mean YEARS -- of thrashing, the IRS said, "whatevs" and walked away....because the whole concept of changing capitalization to make the CBO score a bill better is nonsense.
So, here's the thing -- if you capitalize the new, you need to write-off the old; if you expense the new, you continue to depreciate the old. Start by looking at what you were doing -- if you replaced a $5000 half-depreciated fully-operational heating system with a $35,000 solar-powered intelligent individual-room-controlled comfort system, then why even try calling this a repair? If you swapped-out the cheapest thing you could for something that died, you're looking for cover to call this what it is.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 01:23 AM (T1005)
When do you sleep?
Posted by: Carol at December 31, 2013 05:04 AM (z4WKX)
I should be sleeping now. I (like many night-owls) have a pronounced skew toward "later". When I was in college, there was actually a period where I lived on 28-hour days where I slept 9 and did stuff for 19.....only problem is that there's only six in a week.
Getting older, you need less sleep, but it's going to be a pain in the tuchis to be up in six hours.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 01:29 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Carol at December 31, 2013 01:33 AM (z4WKX)
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thing is -- it ain't enough money for a headache. Dollars wise the tax difference between the various approaches wouldn't be enough to pay the CPA to explain it. The whole thing is just silly.
It has been a component of a larger 39SL for 9 years. It had some book value and now it is gone with salvage = zero. Seems like a very definable loss.
The way I read it, there is no choice other than starting over with a new 39SL on the replacement unit. Which of course is bullshit because the lifespan is like 15-20 years tops.
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 01:34 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Carol at December 31, 2013 01:39 AM (z4WKX)
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thing is -- it ain't enough money for a headache. Dollars wise the tax difference between the various approaches wouldn't be enough to pay the CPA to explain it. The whole thing is just silly.
It has been a component of a larger 39SL for 9 years. It had some book value and now it is gone with salvage = zero. Seems like a very definable loss.
The way I read it, there is no choice other than starting over with a new 39SL on the replacement unit. Which of course is bullshit because the lifespan is like 15-20 years tops.
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 05:34 AM (PlzOe)
The original UNICAP fiasco had everyone throwing up their hands. Here's the thing -- is it an upgrade or a repair? Common sense, throw it down.
Now the IRS is going to be sniffing around and second-guessing a certain percentage of things, but they have to deal with reality -- and if things are on another foot, they'll be trying to prove you wrong with the payoff of the difference in tax. I'm gathering that the difference in tax is minimal. Don't overanalyze, don't over-prep. Call it like you see it, document it that way, and move on.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 01:41 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 05:41 AM (T1005)
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gotcha. thanks.
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 01:46 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 05:41 AM (T1005)
===gotcha. thanks.
Posted by: jc at December 31, 2013 05:46 AM (PlzOe)
If you're doing it for a client or employer, make sure to explain it in a way that can be retrieved. If you take an arguable tax position (side note -- see FIN 4
, civilians frequently freak-out at the first IRS communication. But if you have an email that says "facts are facts -- we had to repair this; if the IRS decides to portray it as an upgrade, our taxes could be off by $2000 but they'd be arguing that red was blue. Either way, we're better off not spending $3000 to find out." you should be golden.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 01:55 AM (T1005)
The deal is, you don't have to deal with a state's bullshit unless they can get a mitt on ya. So a Texas company doesn't have to collect South Dakota sales tax unless they have an employee there, own real estate there, or have a license there.
So, one time, I was managing a corporation in Silicon Valley, and we had a trade show in Texas, and those lousy bastards tried to assess property taxes on our booth because it was there during the assessment date in Texas.
Each and every state wants to use everything in their power to put you under their regime. The laws of nexus are going to be at the SCOTUS from now 'til Doomsday.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 02:06 AM (T1005)
Really the only things unique to PBS that might be worth saving are:
Mclaughlin Group
Frontline
The American Experience
Sesame Street
Masterpiece/Mystery
Old BBC Comedies (Keeping Up Appearances, Faulty Towers and etc)
Red Green
Starting from the bottom:
Red Green - This was something I liked a decade ago. It's stupid but fun and I always liked it. I don't know if there is a market for it on cable though it sure beats Swamp Pawn Shop or whatever. Someone might pick it up but if they don't I wouldn't cry too much. I haven't checked Netflix/Hulu/Amazon but that would be a good place for it to land since it's a dead show.
Old BBC Comedies - See Red Green
Masterpiece/Mystery - Well A&E seems to think they are all artsy. They seem to prefer shows like Criminal Minds but maybe they'd actually like to play something that didn't involve the gory dismemberment of hookers. Now some people will point to Masterpiece/Mystery as a triumph of public broadcasting but I can match that with 2 great privately funded shows like The Wire or Breaking Bad. The only unique feature of Masterpiece/Mystery is that it's uniquely British just like the aforementioned shows are uniquely American.
Sesame Street - There are a dozen networks that would pick this up. The merchandizing is so big on Sesame Street that I can't imagine anyone passing it by; but if they did and if you've read Malcolm Gladwell's dissection of Sesame Street vs Blues Clues you know that the private sector surpassed the public in creating a show that actually teaches kids things. I personally can't think of a single thing I ever learned as a child from the show. Therefor: meh.
The American Experience: This can be one of the most unbiased shows on PBS. Their Reagan Biography was fantastic. I can't imagine the History Channel passing it up.
Frontline - There might be some bias in this one but overall I think it's a good show. 60 minutes has a bit of similar schtick though I think Frontline does a better job by focusing on a single topic. Again I think it would be picked up but if it wasn't ... meh. Like most of the world these days I get more out of doing my own research on the web.
They Mclaughlin Group - This one is a problem. There is no news network out there that wouldn't fuck this up. If Fox, CNN, or MSNBC picked it up they would tone down the bedlam because some viewers can't follow the 5 way free for all. In fact they would turn it into The Five. Now I like looking at Dana Pareno as much as the next guy but The Five is definitely sacharine compared to The Mclaughlin Group. I am pretty sure Elanor doesn't go to dinner with Pat after the show.
I think this show is like football for politics. I feel rage when Elanor Clift speaks her addled hippie mind or tells everyone else to let her speak after she interrupts the guest conservative for the 13th time. However, that is counterbalanced the joy of seeing Morty (or much less often Clarence) occasionally team up with Pat for a beat down when she crosses into utter stupidity.
Posted by: bestie21 at December 31, 2013 02:09 AM (AzO5R)
You don't have to -- here's the logical flaw: "if it's good for the country, it should be from the government".
Just chew on that for a bit. That's the underlying premise. "The land is fertile, it should be from the government"; "people are productive, it should be from the government", "there are valuable mineral deposits, it should be from the government." -- how stupid is that? But that's what they want you to buy into before you start talking specifics.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 02:16 AM (T1005)
Posted by: shredded chi, the young curmudgeon at December 31, 2013 02:18 AM (4ri6+)
However most of the personalities on that show have 1 foot in the grave so I don't expect more than a few more years out of the show anyway.
Posted by: bestie21 at December 31, 2013 02:19 AM (AzO5R)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2013 02:21 AM (T1005)
It's more than that. Every liberal argument starts with a bunch of hidden assumptions. For instance: "Wouldn't it be great if everything was free". Then when you talk about economics they say: "Let's set that aside for the moment."
So lately I just start off with "I deny the premise" and say what I think. :-)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 31, 2013 02:23 AM (AzO5R)
Hey Cooth Happy New Year!!!
Nothin' like the old days of you and me and Jake all night but times change
Have a great one dude
Posted by: DAve at December 31, 2013 02:24 AM (b7yum)
Posted by: Carol at December 31, 2013 02:30 AM (z4WKX)
I was hoping you'd be feeling better by now.
I'll be spending the day with the kids. I don't know or care what that entails - whatever they want. Games, certainly a walk to the park, probably baking cookies, maybe going to a movie?
Was so damn excited when she said OK, I couldn't sleep. I've been up since 4:30.
Posted by: shredded chi, the young curmudgeon at December 31, 2013 02:43 AM (4ri6+)
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Posted by: shredded chi, the young curmudgeon at December 31, 2013 03:36 AM (4ri6+)
America.
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