December 05, 2013
— Maetenloch
Army Lt. Col. Doesn't Understand the Second Amendment, Constitution
Hoo boy this one just gives me a headache. Lt. Col Robert Bateman published an essay in Esquire in which he calls for complete gun control and ends up showing how unclear he is on the 2A and the Constitution in general.
Now Lt. Col. Bateman qualified as Airborne and a Ranger and is a military historian having written several books and taught at West Point. So he's not a nobody without any cred. Yet like so many others he gets hung up on the initial clause of the Second Amendment ("A well Regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state.") and pretty much runs off the rails after that.
Fundamentally he doesn't accept the Supreme Court's Heller decision at all. His counter-argument: Well he just knows better and they're all wrong. For him the militia = the National Guard and therefore civilians have no right to own firearms.
Oh and if he were king, he has a few modest royal pronouncements in mind:
1. The only guns permitted will be the following:
- a. Smoothbore or Rifled muzzle-loading blackpowder muskets. No 7-11 in history has ever been held up with one of these.
- b. Double-barrel breech-loading shotguns. Hunting with these is valid.
- c. Bolt-action rifles with a magazine capacity no greater than five rounds. Like I said, hunting is valid. But if you cannot bring down a defenseless deer in under five rounds, then you have no fking reason to be holding a killing tool in the first place.
[See King Bateman is indeed a merciful and generous liege allowing people like yourselves to own something that goes bang - M.]
2. We will pry your gun from your cold, dead, fingers. That is because I am willing to wait until you die, hopefully of natural causes. Guns, except for the three approved categories, cannot be inherited. When you die your weapons must be turned into the local police department, which will then destroy them. (Weapons of historical significance will be de-milled, but may be preserved.)
3. Police departments are no longer allowed to sell or auction weapons used in crimes after the cases have been closed. (That will piss off some cops, since they really need this money. But you know what they need more? Less violence and death. By continuing the process of weapon recirculation, they are only making their jobs -- or the jobs of some other cops -- harder.)
4. We will submit a new tax on ammunition. In the first two years it will be 400 percent of the current retail cost of that type of ammunition. (Exemptions for the ammo used by the approved weapons.) Thereafter it will increase by 20 percent per year.
5. We will initiate a nationwide "buy-back" program, effective immediately, with the payouts coming from the DoD budget. This buy-back program will start purchasing weapons at 200 percent of their face value the first year, 150 percent the second year, 100 percent the third year. Thereafter there will be a 10 year pause, at which point the guns can be sold to the government at 10 percent of their value for the next 50 years.
6. The major gun manufactures of the United States, less those who create weapons for the federal government and the armed forces, will be bought out by the United States of America, for our own damned good.
[Okay his lordship is a tad weak in the econ area but that doesn't mean he still doesn't know what's best for all of you]
Okaaay - I don't even know what to say at this point. I think this whole essay is clear evidence that a) some people simply don't get the whole concept of a constitutional republic b) when you leave your domain of expertise, there's no limit to the amount of stupid you can achieve, and c) under no circumstances must Robert Bateman ever be allowed even a scrap of political power. And it's also a reminder that there are some good reasons why the US is a civilian-run republic.
Update: Herschel Smith at The Captain's Journal who's familiar with Bateman's previous work says he's just an academic troll:
And thus has Bateman shored up his progressive credentials one more time, and gotten the attention he so desperately wants, all at the same time. In the future, pay no attention to Mr. Bateman. He’s a publicity hound and attention seeker, and uses inflammatory and exaggerated rhetoric to evoke responses. The internet calls this a “troll.” It’s just that he’s a troll with credentials – and he’s an expert on everything. If you don’t believe it, just ask him.
Andrew Sullivan and the Great Porn Gap
Unintentional funneh I assume since Sullivan has no known sense of humor.
For reasons I won't share, I was poking around Andrew Sullivan's site this week and stumbled across the following: apparently, there's a "porn gap." In "high-income cities" the top five search terms on porn-video websites are "1. Gay 2. Ebony 3. Teen 4. Lesbian and 5. MILF while in low-income cities they are 1. Teen 2. Lesbian 3. MILF 4. Ebony 5. Gay."The first thing to cross my mind, obviously, was What would Charles Murray have to say about this?
But then, that question turns out to be easier to answer than you might think.
A weekend Wall Street Journal essay-"Charles Murray on the porn class divide"-practically writes itself. He would look back on the good old days, when both the upper and lower classes had to watch the same pornography, so that no matter how much money your family had, at least you'd have some shared social experience. And there'd be a quiz, so that the rich could realize how little they understand about blue-collar porn.
But the best part is that Murray could even recycle his last title: Coming Apart.
"I gotta be me, as the douchebag credo goes."
- Ace of Spades, Nov. 20, 2012<
Hackivist types never take a warning and just keep going until they get busted and then it's all Bush's fault or something.
What the fuck is wrong with our country these days?
7 Horrifying Things You Didn't (Want to) Know About Prison
Inmates train for riots. At yard time, you'll see a ton of them doing martial arts together. Sometimes they'll start a fight with three or four guys just to see what our response is, that way they're able to work up a counter for it. They figure out what our moves are, and then they practice their methods for beating us while we watch...That's one of the reasons we let them have things like Xboxes and PlayStations. If you give them video games, they'll be less likely to start fights. So once a week we'd hook up a bunch of TVs in a classroom so all of the murderers and rapists could play Halo. There's nothing more interesting than seeing guys who have killed multiple people deathmatching each other. Teabagging seems a lot less innocent when you know it might end with one of the aforementioned riots.
Speaking of which ...
#4. Anything Can Spark a Riot
In Defense of the Going Out Shirt
It's being unfairly maligned.
The wild American bro is most recognizable by its ubiquitous nighttime camouflage: thigh-length swaths of cotton, collars pointed outward like airplane wings, sleeves rolled up and flared out like a Musketeer's. This is known in bro circles as the "going-out shirt." It is the bro's uniform whenever he goes to clubs, bars, house parties, or-god help us-dates. It is always worn untucked with jeans (boot cut, of course), and is considered the "dressed up" alternative to a T-shirt or polo.
I've still got a Going Out shirt or two and the bottom line is that I just look (and feel) good in it.
Breeding has done a lot of damage to dog breeds.
The English bulldog has come to symbolize all that is wrong with the dog fancy and not without good reason; they suffer from almost every possible disease. A 2004 survey by the Kennel Club found that they die at the median age of 6.25 years (n=180). There really is no such thing as a healthy bulldog. The bulldog's monstrous proportions makes them virtually incapable of mating or birthing without medical intervention.
Yahoo group. That is all.
The group thingy. And the middle class.
And my Twitter spew.
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Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 06:53 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 05, 2013 06:54 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at December 05, 2013 06:54 PM (FWwQD)
I think he should be my Gun Czar. He seems pretty well schooled in my flavor of neo-Marxism. Also, he'll make a fine officer in my legions.
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 05, 2013 06:55 PM (Dwehj)
That was a while ago and far away, but I learned that a person can get through West Point and make rank in the Army without giving Einstein any challenges
Posted by: Mamma Said There'd Be Days Like This at December 05, 2013 06:56 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: Brother Cavil needs to sort his socks at December 05, 2013 06:56 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: Joseph Stalin at December 05, 2013 06:56 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 05, 2013 06:56 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 06:57 PM (DmNpO)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
The dude is a straight up propagandist, or so ignorant of the laws of this nation its terrifying.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 06:57 PM (L0b3J)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 06:58 PM (SXDDj)
Posted by: Herman Cain at December 05, 2013 06:59 PM (LUkGY)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 05, 2013 06:59 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Randall Hoven at December 05, 2013 07:00 PM (Z68nE)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 07:01 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 05, 2013 07:01 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 07:01 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 05, 2013 07:02 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:02 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Joseph Stalin at December 05, 2013 07:02 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2013 07:02 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 05, 2013 07:02 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: Jay at December 05, 2013 07:02 PM (CZ63v)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:02 PM (SXDDj)
I have no desire to ever hurt a US Soldier, God grant they never make it a necessity.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:03 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2013 07:03 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:03 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: rickl at December 05, 2013 07:04 PM (sdi6R)
That's your basic "off heading" opening. Most common causes - lousy pack job that wound up asymmetric, or poor body position when opening that biased the load on one of the risers causing a turn during the opening.
Both are preventable with care. There's less common causes, but those are the top two
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 07:04 PM (L0b3J)
Posted by: avid reader at December 05, 2013 07:04 PM (5fkya)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 07:04 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 05, 2013 07:04 PM (+bi7A)
Posted by: Herman Cain at December 05, 2013 10:59 PM (LUkGY)
Nope I stole it fair and square from Bearing Arms just like the link reveals. :-)
Posted by: Mætenloch at December 05, 2013 07:05 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 07:05 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: rickl at December 05, 2013 07:05 PM (sdi6R)
BTW, D'oh Boy sent his Christmas wish list to the libtard in-laws. It was all about weapons and ammo.
Heh. I'm sure they're all out cold on their sustainable hardwoods and carpets right now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 07:06 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:06 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: jeffrey pelt at December 05, 2013 07:06 PM (Jsiw/)
There is a subset of American Soldier who does not understand the oath they are taking at all and pay the document and our history none of the deference the oath mandates.
Dumbelfuck is a fast tracker for certain.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:07 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 05, 2013 07:07 PM (+bi7A)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 07:07 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 07:08 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 05, 2013 07:08 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:08 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 07:09 PM (L0b3J)
Posted by: @koenigjojo at December 05, 2013 07:09 PM (B4htx)
Posted by: thankfully not in NYC at December 05, 2013 07:09 PM (5fkya)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 07:09 PM (aDwsi)
from what Preznit Urkle X was saying Mandela bent moral bars over his head and shit...
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:09 PM (9jfyN)
So cast iron fuse type black powder hand grenades are OK? And large cannons with explosive balls?
Posted by: The Hickster at December 05, 2013 07:09 PM (TI3xG)
Took him way too long to get on the toggles, then he dropped both when he hit the wall the first time. After that, he was just along for the ride...
Posted by: ChrisP at December 05, 2013 07:10 PM (BpTC0)
I'm not going either.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 11:02 PM (4Mv1T)
There are several.
The least popular; the "Let's quit drinking together," group, has had zero attendees since its inception in 2004.
The next least popular, the "Let's stop using profanity together," has, shockingly, zero attendees since 2004, but Alex the Chick signed up for one class when she was hammered, so there is one name on the roster.
The "Let's stop masturbating" group never even made it into the class schedule, so technically it doesn't exist.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:10 PM (oJ5Fd)
Sir you are a total waste of uniform.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 07:10 PM (iGP6J)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 07:10 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 05, 2013 07:11 PM (6RwsK)
Oh, there's a link..whaddaya know? Guess I should click that sucker...
Posted by: Country Singer at December 05, 2013 07:11 PM (LUkGY)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 07:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: rickl at December 05, 2013 07:11 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 07:12 PM (aDwsi)
It kind of disbanded into individual workshops.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 05, 2013 07:12 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 07:12 PM (DmNpO)
The chicken did enjoy the break what was it ~27 days?
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:12 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:12 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:13 PM (SXDDj)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 05, 2013 07:13 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 07:13 PM (aDwsi)
I never look down until I got a good clean chute over me. He had a bit of snivel there too. could have been rear riser steering if he wasn't gazing at his feet
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 07:13 PM (L0b3J)
Posted by: I grew up in nebraska at December 05, 2013 07:14 PM (5fkya)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 05, 2013 07:14 PM (70tOG)
Limit weapons to what existed in 1787. Fine. Limit your 1st Amendment rights to what existed at the same time.
Symmetry....it fucks you in your no-doubt bored-out ass every time.
And....fuck you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:14 PM (oJ5Fd)
Don H Says:
When I worked in USASOC Surgeon’s Office, we had a saying: “Ranger Tab or Ranger Scroll?” You could always tell the guys who had served in the Regiment. They were much more squared away (in the right way) than guys who had just been to the school. As my office mate (who was tabbed) put it after going on an exercise with the Regiment,if it were raining in the 82nd, and you told a trooper with a tab to put on his wet weather gear, he’d say “I don’t need snivel gear. I’m a Ranger.” And teh person asking would sah “Airborne. Huaah.” In the Regiment, if they told you to put on your snivel gear and you said that, they’d say “what part of F@#$%%^& put on your snivel gear don’t you understand?” Because they’d all proved whatever they needed to prove, and were more interested in soldier welfare (and, in turn, having soldiers available for the mission). So there is a real attitude difference between officers who had served in the Regiment and officers who had only been to the school. And one of the best GOs I ever worked for (James Jackson) was a former Regimental Commander–and a real out of the box thinker.
In 1997, the DOPMA Promotion Rate, which is the number of officers selected for promotion by a given board divided by the number of officers in the primary zone, was 65% for selection to lieutenant colonel. In 2002, it had jumped to in excess of 90%, and remained at that level until 2013. In fact, in 2006-2010, the DOPMA selection rate was IN EXCESS OF 100%. I know this is “inside baseball” talk, but to put it in simpler terms, to get a rate in excess of 100%, you have to basically select the equivalent of everybody in the primary zone, plus above the zoners and below the zoners. In other words, from 2006-2010, the only way you could not get promoted would be if you impregnated the division commander’s teenage daughter. And if his wife liked you, then you still might get promoted.
The typical pin-on point for Colonel is about 5 years (my time in grade was 4 years, 10 months when I pinned on O-6). So if we assume he is a due course officer, than he was selected in a year when they were selecting anybody who breathed for promotion to Lieutenant Colonel.
In 2006, the promotion selection rate to Lieutenant Colonel was 113.6% No, thatÂ’s not a typo. 113.6%.
Fortunately, the selection rate to Colonel has pretty much hovered at about 50% for most of the same time period.
So I ask, with a selection rate in excess of 100%, is it surprising htat a guy like this would get promoted?
A prediction:
I’m betting if you dig, you’ll find that he went to Ranger School and Airborne School as a cadet or immediately out of Officer Basic. The only jumps he will have made would have been in school (I’m not going to say he’s a five jump chump because if he went to airborne first, he would have jumped a couple of times in Ranger School). Doubt there was a battalion command in his career–and he may have declined consideration, just to be safe. Maybe a deployment or two, but most likely as a staff guy someplace. And probably an extraordinary amount of time in TDA overall.
And hopefully this copy and paste job doesn't land me in the barrel.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 05, 2013 07:14 PM (LUkGY)
Not wanting to state the obvious here, but, such parsing on bolt actions is the thin edge of the wedge. Really, what the hell can someone do with a 6xround carcano, that you can't do with a k98? Once they start fucking round with this shit, no 303's, no carcano's... they'll end up telling you that your k98, springfield or mosin is an assault rifle too.
Posted by: otho at December 05, 2013 07:15 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 11:12 PM (/i3Yt)
Yes.
Posted by: Mætenloch at December 05, 2013 07:15 PM (pAlYe)
Why it's almost as if pruning doesn't kill the plants or anything and quite the contrary keeps them healthy or something....
but "feelings" and "plants are people too...unlike that 8.75 month child at Kermy Gosnell's clinic"....
Ison pissed me off I had high hopes it's be SCOD
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:15 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 05, 2013 07:15 PM (9/YlV)
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 05, 2013 07:15 PM (+bi7A)
Posted by: PabloD at December 05, 2013 07:16 PM (VVmdn)
Posted by: Colonel 'bater at December 05, 2013 07:16 PM (70tOG)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:18 PM (SXDDj)
Posted by: whoever at December 05, 2013 07:18 PM (zu9Ee)
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 05, 2013 07:19 PM (6RwsK)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 07:19 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 05, 2013 07:20 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 07:20 PM (iGP6J)
Posted by: Tuna at December 05, 2013 07:20 PM (M/TDA)
Quite, and as my wife's private back at 10th Mountain who was a Black South African was fond of reminding people who waxed too rhapsodic on the ANC said, "less than a third their necklacing victims were white."
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:21 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Big Swingin Al at December 05, 2013 07:21 PM (OZtuG)
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1. I don't recall seeing approved categories in the Bill of Rights
2. I would like to see how this POS would enforce the non-inheritance activity, since over 90% of the guns used in crime are not registered. All he wants to do is to eliminate a right, he can't be stupid enough to believe this would have any impact on crime.
3. Come on down to my house to take mine - bring plenty of friends.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:21 PM (/i3Yt)
Haven't seen you in awhile. How's it going?
And...I'm still pissed that you got me fixated on .22LR .
Bastard.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:21 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 05, 2013 07:21 PM (70tOG)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 07:22 PM (iGP6J)
Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2013 07:22 PM (hFL/3)
Well probably...right after Whinny Mandy runs off with the bulls...
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:23 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 05, 2013 07:23 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2013 07:23 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 07:24 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 07:24 PM (BC6cY)
Posted by: I grew up in nebraska at December 05, 2013 07:24 PM (5fkya)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 05, 2013 07:25 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 07:25 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:25 PM (SXDDj)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 07:25 PM (iGP6J)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 07:26 PM (L0b3J)
I'll never ask for it or desire it...
on the other hand....
lots of folks seem to have nice trucks.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:26 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 05, 2013 07:26 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2013 07:26 PM (hFL/3)
41 O.K. Please dear God. Enough of the lionizing of Mandeada! Posted by: Minnfidel at December 05, 2013 11:04 PM (+bi7A)
It's only just begun - with the media constantly comparing Barky and Mandela - the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENTS OF THEIR RACIST COUNTRIES!!!
Another chance for the MSM to try to pull bambi's sorry ass above 50% in the polls...'cause nobody is going to buy "The website's all fixed now!!" bs.
Posted by: Donna V. at December 05, 2013 07:26 PM (R3gO3)
The current administration is PURGING anyone that disagrees with its political positions at all levels of leadership within the military. The goal is to produce a military that is willing to follow orders that are contrary to the constitution -- one willing to impose martial law.
Posted by: fretless at December 05, 2013 07:26 PM (9xDVF)
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Yes, people tend to overlook all of the bodies he racked up. Ted Kennedy's bumper sticker: "Legalize Murder - Vote Kennedy", applied much more to Mandela. Bastard planted bombs; didn't even have the courage to face his enemies.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:26 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 05, 2013 07:27 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 07:27 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:27 PM (4Mv1T)
It means he was not on a "two pipe problem" when they watched Lincoln....
does he know what it means?
Nope but it sounds inspiring and shit.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:28 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2013 07:28 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 07:28 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 05, 2013 07:29 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 07:29 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: mindful webworker - the sound of one man snapping at December 05, 2013 07:29 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 07:29 PM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 05, 2013 07:29 PM (70tOG)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:29 PM (SXDDj)
Going to PA tomorrow to see if we can get some land in a state that doesn't sneer at my God-given, Constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.
I want at least 100 yards for a range. And 200 would be better.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:30 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: rickl at December 05, 2013 07:30 PM (sdi6R)
They are a frightfully effective terror weapon.
I can provide a detailed briefing of the physiological and psychological distress they administer if you'd like.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:31 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 07:31 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 07:31 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 07:31 PM (aDwsi)
Likewise I suppose that no one bothered to tell him that the 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting deer.
It's about hunting tyrants.
Evening roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 05, 2013 07:31 PM (yh0zB)
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1. Tie up victim
2. Place tire around neck (these are tube tires)
3. Fill tire with gasoline
4. Light it
Winnie Mandela specialized in doing this to children of her opponents.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:32 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 05, 2013 07:32 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2013 07:32 PM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:32 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:32 PM (SXDDj)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 05, 2013 07:33 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 07:33 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: mindful webworker - zen and the art of ONT maintenance at December 05, 2013 07:33 PM (U13jb)
They want what they want, and I want what I am promised by birth here.
Something *is* gonna give ideally through politics.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:33 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 05, 2013 07:33 PM (m7nkO)
Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2013 07:33 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 11:29 PM
Yes, you can.
Posted by: otho at December 05, 2013 07:33 PM (9gNQd)
They're more fond of diesel as it melts the tire more effectively and will heat the steel belt to the point it is a penetrating medium.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:34 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 07:34 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:34 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 07:34 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: I'd be embarresed too at December 05, 2013 07:34 PM (5fkya)
and as for dogs, mutts rule.
Posted by: steve l. at December 05, 2013 07:34 PM (R0MFk)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 07:34 PM (ZPrif)
BTW, I noticed today that the Milwaukee County buses now have the healthcare.gov site alternating with the route number and destination on their buses: "15: Bayshore" and then "Need Med Coverage? Go to:"
Yep, messages flashing on buses - that will surely pull in the "young healthies."
Posted by: Donna V. at December 05, 2013 07:34 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 07:34 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 07:35 PM (iGP6J)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 05, 2013 07:35 PM (ZyqBH)
Okay. How about a flaming tire around a flaming skull?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 05, 2013 06:10 PM (olDqf)
This was from the Mandela thread earlier.
And it might be the comment of the year.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:35 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: Purp at December 05, 2013 11:26 PM (L0b3J)
To those downrange, or behind the trigger?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 05, 2013 07:36 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:36 PM (SXDDj)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 05, 2013 07:36 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Carrie fan at December 05, 2013 07:37 PM (5Q1ZU)
Usually used truck tires....
any tire with a steel belt will do however.
The Psychological impact is watching a neighbor or family member have vulcanized rubber melting into their thorax, ribcage, and eventually abdominal cavity while maintaining semi-lucidity a frightening space of time and having a Whinny Mandy follower singing at you.
Those rifles Colonel Dumbelfuck hates?
That is why that shit doesn't happen here.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:37 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:37 PM (4Mv1T)
Purebred dogs can be wonderful, but too often breeders don't realize that heterogeneity is good thing. They breed sisters to brothers and mothers to sons.....
That's just stupid shit, and causes the horrible mutations that we see today.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:37 PM (oJ5Fd)
I want at least 100 yards for a range. And 200 would be better.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 11:30 PM (oJ5Fd) Hide posts from (oJ5Fd)
So you want a pistol range?
Posted by: Lamont C. at December 05, 2013 07:39 PM (Qp+vN)
That is why that shit doesn't happen here.
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Exactly. Which is why he wants to ban them.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:39 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 07:39 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: come on at December 05, 2013 07:39 PM (5fkya)
When the Boers are killed off, which might not take long, the native Africans in the country will find out the Rainbow Nation runs mostly just crimson.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 05, 2013 07:39 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: mindful webworker - zen and the art of ONT maintenance at December 05, 2013 07:39 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 07:40 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 05, 2013 07:40 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 11:36 PM (SXDDj)
I can't wait.
And you are spoiled.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:40 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 05, 2013 07:40 PM (70tOG)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:40 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 05, 2013 07:41 PM (N/cFh)
I had a malamute when I was a kid..Tough dog..lots of fun..he would swallow whole fish alive
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 05, 2013 07:41 PM (/7Xis)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:41 PM (SXDDj)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:41 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2013 07:41 PM (Ua6T/)
Google the term "absolute clause," reread the amendment, and repent your sins.
Posted by: Jorderon at December 05, 2013 07:42 PM (KIqpS)
Posted by: Lamont C. at December 05, 2013 11:39 PM (Qp+vN)
I shot a skunk once with my .45 ACP at about 60 yards.
That's as far as I ever want to fire for effect.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:42 PM (oJ5Fd)
Anyway, I'm out. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 05, 2013 07:42 PM (yh0zB)
It is absolutely forbidden that mere colonials should ever rebel against the king. That is the purpose of the military, and a well regulated militia to guarantee that no rebellion against the government ever succeeds.
No outside force of arms should ever be permitted to challenge the legitimate government or the men who hold government positions.
Posted by: Need More at December 05, 2013 07:42 PM (oSujc)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 07:42 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at December 05, 2013 07:43 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: mpfs at December 05, 2013 07:43 PM (x8AwZ)
If an army of 100,000 couldn't beat a bunch of 14th century shepherds with guns in an area the size of Texas, what makes you think that you'll have any better luck against a first world rebellion in an area the size of the western US?
If the police and military can't find tweaked-out rednecks cooking meth and illegal hooch in the mountains and woods, what makes you think you'll be able to find engineers building weapons in garages and backwoods and mountain valleys?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 05, 2013 07:43 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 05, 2013 07:43 PM (m7nkO)
Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 07:44 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 07:44 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 07:44 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: rickl at December 05, 2013 07:44 PM (sdi6R)
That's as far as I ever want to fire for effect.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 11:42 PM (oJ5Fd) Hide posts from (oJ5Fd)
60 yards is great for a .45. Target shooting at longer ranges really makes you work on sight alignment.
Posted by: Lamont C. at December 05, 2013 07:44 PM (Qp+vN)
A few months ago, a guy in the WSJ comments section, a career military guy who recently retired, said that in decades past that the Dems contempt for the US military reinforced military conservativism and thus made the idea of leftists declaring military rule absurd - the troops would never follow a left-wing president and fire on American civilians.
He said now he thinks the military would split 50-50%. Lots of purges, lots of brainwashing going on during the Obama era.
Posted by: Donna V. at December 05, 2013 07:45 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 05, 2013 07:45 PM (WdbF7)
Ah! a visitor from the Dark Enlightenment, I see. Welcome.
But reactionary-to-reactionary: the right of a freeman or, even, a moderately free serf to bear arms is not really about rebelling against the king. It's more about protecting oneself from bandits, which bandits the current king is refusing to police; for reasons of his own.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 05, 2013 07:46 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:46 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 05, 2013 07:46 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Need More at December 05, 2013 07:46 PM (oSujc)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 07:46 PM (DmNpO)
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Yes, I enjoyed hearing about how leeching off of your fellow taxpayers was a true conservative value.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:47 PM (/i3Yt)
You can ignite diesel with a Zippo....
Dad showed me the match trick, he even put a cigarette out in diesel once...
he also said don't bet your life on it.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:47 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 05, 2013 07:47 PM (N/cFh)
That's my mission on Saturday, sort of. A buddy just bought 150 acres in a neighboring county and we're going to go figure out where to put a 200yd range.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 05, 2013 07:47 PM (LUkGY)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 05, 2013 07:47 PM (m7nkO)
Biden, "Oh hey Winnie can I wear a necklace?"
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 07:48 PM (iGP6J)
I'd prefer not being hit by a ball from my New Model Remington, the Rogers and Spencer, or the 1860 Army.
Any of which is guaranteed to ruin your week.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 05, 2013 07:49 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 07:49 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: mpfs at December 05, 2013 07:49 PM (x8AwZ)
Tech in the 21st century means anybody with knowledge and a few tools (under $10K) can make all the shit you ban. Which will be way less in numbers than the shit people that fear you stock piled on your run to grab everything. If they overreach like they did to get to One payer there will just be that much more they will never know is out there.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 05, 2013 07:49 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: still coming down off the twilight zone marathon at December 05, 2013 07:50 PM (5fkya)
Posted by: Joe Biden at December 05, 2013 07:50 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: mpfs at December 05, 2013 11:43 PM (x8AwZ)
Obambi couldn't be bothered to show up for Thatcher's funeral, but hey, Mandela's - well, too many good photo-ops there to ignore. Plus, it gives him another excuse for a vaycay at taxpayer's expense. All he has to do is turn up and read a bit from the teleprompter.
It'll be nice for him to be back on his daddy's continent and away from these American ingrates who don't appreciate just how much he really, really wanted the website to work.
Posted by: Donna V. at December 05, 2013 07:50 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 05, 2013 07:50 PM (5qhId)
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Or an 1874 Sharps from a thousand yards.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:50 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:50 PM (SXDDj)
Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2013 07:50 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 05, 2013 07:51 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 05, 2013 07:51 PM (GmTxn)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:51 PM (4Mv1T)
In a vineyard. I had a vine stake to use as a brace.
But...185 grain .45ACP hitting a 10 pound animal does a world of damage.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:51 PM (oJ5Fd)
A daughter wants to bring her hubby and boyfriend to Thanksgiving dinner. Her dad refuses and but mom seems to want to just get along. The commentators are hilarious for the way that they keep falling over each other to show how "enlightened" and non-judgmental they are.
http://tinyurl.com/qaylttw
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 05, 2013 07:51 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 07:51 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:51 PM (SXDDj)
No, they can own just about any caliber they like. The restrictions there are on auto-loaders (special license) and handguns (comp shooters, no CCW) and cosmetics (looks "scary.") Plenty own .50 cal bolt actions and the like. Strangely, pump action shotguns are considered the same as semi-autos under the law but lever action shotguns are not.
How strange and arbitrary!
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 11:42 PM
And anything pre 1900 is a free for all.
Posted by: otho at December 05, 2013 07:51 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Goatweed at December 05, 2013 07:52 PM (8HrdX)
I think a tricked out 45-70 load can work wonders...
I plan to experiment with a Marlin 95
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:52 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2013 07:52 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Jeremy Hammond at December 05, 2013 07:52 PM (2vl2+)
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 11:44 PM (zDsvJ)
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I think it was Levin who pointed out that it isn't called the Bill of Needs
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:52 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: RWC at December 05, 2013 07:52 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 05, 2013 07:52 PM (70tOG)
Yeah, and maybe the cheap bastid will stop by my hut and toss me some loose change.
Posted by: Brother 404 at December 05, 2013 07:53 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 05, 2013 07:53 PM (ya3AJ)
Posted by: Jake ID at December 05, 2013 07:53 PM (SXDDj)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 05, 2013 07:53 PM (m7nkO)
Well the story today was that his child's family was doing "quite well on Ogabecare" thank you...
and so I was forced to wonder...
JWest you of the HOA STalin brigade who brags my house cost less than your lawn....
why did your daughter not already have a plan as a gift from you?
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:53 PM (9jfyN)
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Technically, she is correct, which shows just how screwed up we are to have discrimination laws in the first place.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:54 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you must call me Chelsea at December 05, 2013 07:54 PM (7cS5n)
Posted by: madamemayhem at December 05, 2013 07:54 PM (S2RnE)
We are looking for land for a house, so not all of it can be dedicated to shooting.
40 acres yields a 440 x 440 yard square. That's plenty for a house and a 200 yard range.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:54 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 07:54 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 07:54 PM (iGP6J)
We have devolved into such a nation of pussies that we put those who act less pussiful on a pedestal. It's frequently undeserved. Most people physically and mentally could do the same things, they just don't, 'cause they're big pussies. It doesn't mean the big pussies are in any way less (or more) capable of comprehending freedom and objectivity. Representative government eventually fails when the state holds a monopoly on violence. I've worked with privates that fucking get this, but the ivory tower academy douchebags seem to struggle at times.
Point being, never let hero worship cloud what you know to be right. Good leaders in the military are all about moral courage, which demands booing this clown without caveat.
Posted by: 0302 at December 05, 2013 07:55 PM (R8X6T)
It's an oddball trapezoidal shape, and the terrain doesn't lend itself to that long of a range without a ton of dirtwork. Also, part of the property is an 8 acre lake smack in the middle, plus he has 7 streams running through other parts. If we can find a good spot, we'll try for 300yds, but the plan is for 200 right now.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 05, 2013 07:55 PM (LUkGY)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 05, 2013 07:55 PM (Nsoq9)
Why would the dance studio guy care about Marxist gay porn equality?
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 05, 2013 07:56 PM (4NEdy)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 07:56 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: local DFW weather reporter at December 05, 2013 07:56 PM (70tOG)
Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 07:56 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 07:57 PM (doBIb)
I think jwest is a bit of a troll, and his crap today was almost certainly lies.
The numbers he cited were ridiculous.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 07:57 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 07:57 PM (4Mv1T)
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Yes, but it was a lovely tee-off point.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:57 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 07:58 PM (ZPrif)
She was dating a eunuch last I saw. So presumably she's steppin' out
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 05, 2013 07:58 PM (Nsoq9)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 05, 2013 07:58 PM (Vk2pI)
EC just did a good takedown above this post....
I said and he did not want to play with me that I think he is a particularly entrenched and subtle Moby....
shit like today just cements that view.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 07:59 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Stanley Tool and CP USA at December 05, 2013 07:59 PM (70tOG)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 07:59 PM (/i3Yt)
I also thought Custer was a bit overconfident, and Timur Khan a bit excessive
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 05, 2013 08:00 PM (Nsoq9)
Lt. Col. Bateman would likely quail in the face of a challenge of a Duel.
But should he ever think he's up to it, I'm right here.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 05, 2013 08:00 PM (vvk2F)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 05, 2013 08:00 PM (DoZD+)
Fuck you, you cocksucking, anti-freedom, anti-American asshole.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 08:00 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 05, 2013 08:02 PM (Vk2pI)
If daughter has offspring and they paper trailed it correctly he could hide a LOT of money that way....
anyway...I am not worried about it....she is gonna take a too big subsidy and get fucked over it or not....
If the Subsidy calculation does not factor in total income from earned, unearned, and gift income it is an even bigger joke than I suspect.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:02 PM (9jfyN)
I like the lack of logic in bateman point 2, no inheriting firearms. Its kind of like outlawing alcohol.
Bwahaha, hey dumbass, first no, second how would you know, third fuck no. And he is defeated.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2013 08:02 PM (caCiW)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 05, 2013 08:02 PM (5qhId)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 08:03 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 05, 2013 08:03 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: RWC at December 05, 2013 08:03 PM (LpbKr)
Lt. Col. Bateman would likely quail in the face of a challenge of a Duel.
But should he ever think he's up to it, I'm right here.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 06, 2013 12:00 AM (vvk2F)
You probably shouldn't google "lt col robert bateman and the south". You won't like what you find.
Posted by: Mætenloch at December 05, 2013 08:03 PM (pAlYe)
Since we are no longer a serious power, I am finding my usual visceral reaction to pruning the standing military to a bad shrub to be waning.
I'd like to make it to wife's pension, I like my liberty even more.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:04 PM (9jfyN)
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They can't deliver mail correctly, nor put in basic security on their POS website. I can guarantee you they won't factor total income. The entire process is a joke. The only logical explanation is that it isn't about insurance, but a way to track voters, and enroll as many medicare voters as they can, so that they can screw the productive class in this country and still hold their congressional seats.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 08:05 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 08:05 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:05 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 05, 2013 08:06 PM (52Rhl)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 05, 2013 08:06 PM (JMmQ9)
He turned in a pretty killer performance in the Day After and Cocoon
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:07 PM (9jfyN)
On SyFy is Arachnoquake. Earthquakes release giant spiders in New Orleans.
And on TCM is In the Heat of the Night.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 08:07 PM (iGP6J)
Posted by: RWC at December 05, 2013 08:07 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: mindful webworker - what, me flurry? at December 05, 2013 08:07 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: FlatbushJoe at December 05, 2013 08:07 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2013 08:08 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: science ?? at December 05, 2013 08:08 PM (SXDDj)
Posted by: Gen. George Armstrong Cluster at December 05, 2013 08:09 PM (70tOG)
Posted by: whoever at December 05, 2013 08:09 PM (zu9Ee)
Posted by: to all my friends in TX at December 05, 2013 08:10 PM (5fkya)
Mine too with the added bonus, I also was killed by Rebel fire.
// TJ Jackson esq
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:10 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 08:10 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: RWC at December 05, 2013 08:10 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: JDW at December 05, 2013 08:10 PM (UEoQu)
Woof! Woof! [tail wags]
Posted by: assault terrier, mark iii at December 05, 2013 08:11 PM (4NEdy)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:11 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: The Dude at December 05, 2013 08:12 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 05, 2013 08:12 PM (aDwsi)
So Bateman has a hotmail account where he invites people to send threats.
So?
How does this change anything?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2013 08:13 PM (oJ5Fd)
Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2013 11:34 PM (zDsvJ)
Nothing anti-purebred about it.
The facts are that some purebreds have medical issues directly related to the manipulation of the breeding stock to create the breed.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 05, 2013 08:13 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2013 08:13 PM (/i3Yt)
so it is nostalgia week at Casa 10077 and for fun I decided to expose lad10077 to Emergency!
for your perusal dear Horde I present the pilot...
http://youtu.be/SVukU5jYq4E
Nurse Dixie....1972 when women were still dames.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:13 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 08:14 PM (T1005)
Yeah I have heard of the good Colonel before...
I have loathed him a long while.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:15 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: RWC at December 05, 2013 08:15 PM (LpbKr)
Time for the old folk. We have a dinner to go to tomorrow, and our guests will be a young Army couple. Ought to be fun.
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 05, 2013 08:15 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 05, 2013 08:15 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:15 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 08:16 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Gen. George Armstrong Cluster at December 05, 2013 08:16 PM (70tOG)
Uh. Just because you ran the o-course doesn't give you street cred. I have a list of shitty officers that did this or that. People is people. Leaders are leaders. Rank doesn't mean shit.
Best officer I ever served with: Lt Gen Gary Voellger. I'd carry his ruck. Served on his staff and he was a man's man. And Col Wayne Bechler. Lt Col J. Nelson.
That is the end of the list. 13 years active service, 10 as a contractor. 3 names. Do the math.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:16 PM (x3YFz)
Ms10077 as well...
not many women leave men for DeSoto....probably fewer than leave men for Dixie....
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:16 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: RWC at December 05, 2013 08:17 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2013 08:17 PM (iGP6J)
Posted by: rickl at December 05, 2013 08:17 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:18 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 08:18 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 05, 2013 08:19 PM (Vk2pI)
He's the best NCO I've ever known, including me.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:19 PM (x3YFz)
I have been gone a lot more than normal or rather am slowly returning to my usual "normal" and probably will be even less present next year.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:19 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Morg at December 05, 2013 08:19 PM (70tOG)
Posted by: General (Ret - Thank God) Wesley Clark at December 05, 2013 08:20 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Die Politieke Hoed at December 05, 2013 08:20 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 05, 2013 08:20 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: General (Ret - Thank God) Wesley Clark at December 06, 2013 12:20 AM (ZyqBH)
Heh...Clark. I don't have the energy tonight to string together the correct amount of profanity.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:21 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: whoever at December 05, 2013 08:22 PM (zu9Ee)
Wesley "WHAT THE HELL HERO?!?" Clark who tried to single-handily start World War III "because"...
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:22 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:22 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 05, 2013 08:23 PM (70tOG)
Assault kitteh
Grrr! BARK! Grrr!
Posted by: assault terrier, mark iii at December 05, 2013 08:23 PM (4NEdy)
Some of Mistah Clark's Tail may be male...
//Thai Tranny Local 957
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:23 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:24 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:24 PM (doBIb)
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/showthread.php/28480-WWII-Pin-Up-Art/page2
Posted by: The Hickster at December 05, 2013 08:24 PM (TI3xG)
So?
How does this change anything?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 06, 2013 12:13 AM (oJ5Fd)
??
Posted by: Mætenloch at December 05, 2013 08:24 PM (pAlYe)
Even electric wire coil will ignite it.
Now diesel may not EXPLODE easily but it CAN if the mixture is just right and there's enough oxygen present with a detonator of sufficient power.
Fuel-air-fertilizer bombs use diesel or kerosene for preference.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 05, 2013 08:24 PM (LSDdO)
God I hate that guy.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:24 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Gen Shinseki at December 05, 2013 08:25 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 05, 2013 08:26 PM (ya3AJ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 05, 2013 08:27 PM (ya3AJ)
3 tours in asscrackistan and dude rolls up on me and asks (like we're dealing drugs or some shit) if he can snake a 30 round mag for his AR.
I sold him two. I have like 30 magpuls. Stocked up because I saw this coming.
I fucking hate democrats.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:27 PM (x3YFz)
Yup...it all has to do with how much of it has evaporated how much gaseous so there's a methodology to the match trick and the smoke trick.
When necklacing you want the slow burn of diesel....
anyhow if people really ant to know I'll check in in the AM and can provide Ace or Maet with video of necklacing in action...
it is one of the reasons I went back to owning semi-autos after selling all mine over the years.
Colonel Dumbelfuck is really proud he is a trained violence specialist.....
a little too proud IMHO....it is not that special and uh so am I.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:27 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 05, 2013 08:29 PM (ya3AJ)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:29 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 08:29 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Gen. Casey at December 05, 2013 08:29 PM (jHkZU)
Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 12:29 AM (doBIb)
CO. And the county sheriff won't enforce that bullshit. However, you have to drive to WY to buy mags.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:30 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:31 PM (doBIb)
The Ton Ton Macout used it....
Whinny mainstreamed it for African fun and games.
http://tinyurl.com/ywojtv
Necklacing-Wiki
It is very much a hobby of the hotter climates....
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2013 08:31 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:31 PM (doBIb)
I don't remeber the exact time line but D and H violence on the news came after South African crap IIRC.
Posted by: The Hickster at December 05, 2013 08:31 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 05, 2013 08:32 PM (ya3AJ)
I stared at him. I said "J, these are like gold here. x5 brother."
I threw in 60 rounds of green tip. Because I'm cool like that.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:32 PM (x3YFz)
--
She could take one a day for eternity and get busy with 1 guy or 50. It wouldn't matter. Only one $9 monthly prescription is all she needs to bang the entire society of elitist, pampered pansy boys at Georgetown. Same as a woman married to 1 guy. Her body, her choice, my bill.
In other news, I watched Hang 'Em High tonight. I do believe Ms. Lady in Black had to fan herself most often. Clint Eastwood looked mighty handsome in that movie, he did.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 05, 2013 08:32 PM (XB5Ak)
Posted by: sucks to be unarmed at December 05, 2013 08:34 PM (jHkZU)
Posted by: sucks to be unarmed at December 05, 2013 08:35 PM (jHkZU)
Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 12:31 AM (doBIb)
Terry Maketa. He's bad ass!
but term limited. I hope he runs for our district when he retires as sheriff. I make it a point to buy all the deputies pizza every couple months.
They say they cant accept gifts but somehow those pizzas get et. 
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:35 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: sucks to be unarmed at December 06, 2013 12:35 AM (jHkZU)
I'm smarter than the average bear.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:37 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 12:27 AM (ya3AJ)
Jogging shorts with thigh high striped gym socks vs Yoga pants: Commence Battle
Posted by: The Dude at December 05, 2013 08:40 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:41 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 08:41 PM (AO9UG)
Are the gym socks vagina knitted?
Posted by: The Hickster at December 05, 2013 08:42 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: sucks to be unarmed at December 05, 2013 08:42 PM (jHkZU)
Posted by: The Dude at December 05, 2013 08:43 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:43 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:44 PM (doBIb)
and why do you not like girls in jogging shorts?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 06, 2013 12:27 AM (ya3AJ)
Jogging shorts with thigh high striped gym socks vs Yoga pants: Commence Battle
Posted by: The Dude at December 06, 2013 12:40 AM (vJdyz)
Girls in skimpy little jogging shorts aren't just fine, but, in fact, encouraged.
However, pasty, skinny, white spindly Lt Col's who should have bought a muscle car for their mid life crisis, are not something you want to see lopping around the base thinking they don't look gay.
because they look gay. And not like Armani Suit gay, but just... fkn gay.
/shudder
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:45 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 12:41 AM (AO9UG)
I'm guessing the same can be said LtC biteman.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2013 08:45 PM (FMbng)
^^^THIS. They encounter that town where the sheriff's old pal that's gone nuts that saved his life is hiding out and has all those spikey booby traps setup to impale the walkers, then fail to employ that same protruding spikey impale technique through the chain link fence at the prison to keep the walkers from getting too close and pushing the fence down.
Right. I totally believed that.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 08:49 PM (L0b3J)
Posted by: elaine at December 05, 2013 08:50 PM (GNZ0/)
It's a thing where if I was behind him in line at safeway while buying milk and cheetos, I'd drop everything, throat snatch him and slam his face through the bar scanner over and over until the police arrived.
That's how much I hate that guy.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:51 PM (x3YFz)
Ruins a lot of time wasting.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 05, 2013 08:52 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at December 05, 2013 08:52 PM (Q4p8Q)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 08:53 PM (AO9UG)
Our stepdaughter dated one who was caught and convicted for tagging public property in DC.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 06, 2013 12:52 AM (Q4p8Q)
eh.. so I'm not the only one who has an idiot daughter.
It's unfortunate that she looks exactly like me so there's no out for me: Yes, I spawned a dumbass.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:55 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 08:56 PM (DmNpO)
Ruins a lot of time wasting.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 06, 2013 12:52 AM (LSDdO)
Hah!
I gave this exact speech to my physics III class Monday: the smarter you get, the less you enjoy movies.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 08:57 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:57 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 08:58 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: EC at December 05, 2013 08:58 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: dang burr at December 05, 2013 08:59 PM (5fkya)
***
Please tell me that just rolled off your tongue, effortlessly.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2013 12:56 AM (DmNpO)
It did. Bumper sticker?
Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 12:58 AM (AO9UG)
I believe we've neglected the term "nicklefucker" in the ONTs. turtle fucker is good but doesn't (just barely) have the same flow.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:00 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: EC at December 06, 2013 12:58 AM (doBIb)
is he the dead black guy from Africa?
/INCOMING!
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:01 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 09:01 PM (DmNpO)
At least he's consistent and sometimes it's fun to troll.
And sometimes I do it without realizing I'm doing it.
Danged if I'm going to admit I'm wrong though.
That's what's so great about the internet; no downsides to saying stupid stuff.
Who cares? Who remembers?
As long as you don't make a habit of it of course.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 05, 2013 09:01 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 09:02 PM (AO9UG)
No they used all their spare materials on Rick's pig farm. Which they stocked with pigs they got from...
Wait, were there pigs in woodbury?
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2013 09:03 PM (hO9ad)
At least he's consistent and sometimes it's fun to troll.
And sometimes I do it without realizing I'm doing it.
Danged if I'm going to admit I'm wrong though.
That's what's so great about the internet; no downsides to saying stupid stuff.
Who cares? Who remembers?
As long as you don't make a habit of it of course.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 06, 2013 01:01 AM (LSDdO)
few points:
1) jwest has the balls to stay in the fight. He's wrong, a lot, but +1 for cajones
2) Always man up when you fuck up. even on the internet. Integrity.
3) Everyone remembers.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:04 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 05, 2013 09:04 PM (dfYL9)
I was under the impression the corpse wouldn't be planted for ten days, So we have a week and a half of this bullshit to sit through.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2013 09:05 PM (hO9ad)
It's just that they take such glee in it. Like their mourning this dead terrorist makes them so much better than anyone else.
This man blew people up and him and his wife tortured others. But none of that will be spoken of.
His short time rule (and don't think for one minute he wasn't being steered by the ANC) did little to nothing to better the country or it's problems. And long term, Black (tribal) rule will eventually destroy it like most other populist/communist/tribal groups have done through out the rest of Africa.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 05, 2013 09:07 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2013 09:07 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Jerry at December 05, 2013 09:09 PM (4SKYj)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 05, 2013 09:09 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Meremortal,, at December 05, 2013 09:10 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 09:11 PM (AO9UG)
http://tinyurl.com/n4qxcro
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 06, 2013 01:09 AM (BXLPR)
teaching at a university as a guy pushing 50, I offer this:
I'm married, happily.
But goddammit, they're everywhere!
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:11 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Centauri at December 05, 2013 09:11 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 06, 2013 01:09 AM (BXLPR)
damn, shows off her diamond beautifully
Posted by: The Dude at December 05, 2013 09:12 PM (vJdyz)
yes he's dead to the world as we know it
and I feel fine
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2013 01:12 AM (FMbng)
And he did just as much for humanity as Ghandi did:
Z E R O
Still fucked, aren't you, Africa?
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:14 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 09:15 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 05, 2013 09:17 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: sasha at December 05, 2013 09:17 PM (4NEdy)
Mommy, why is Daddy always watching volleyball?
It's all about strategy, ball placement and other important stuff son. You'll begin to understand when you reach puberty.
Posted by: PMRich at December 05, 2013 09:18 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 09:18 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Jerry at December 05, 2013 09:20 PM (4SKYj)
Barry's like an historical photobomber. Whatever's being snapped, Barry shoves his mug in the frame.
Normandy beach shot- Barry: "wazzzzzzup?!"
Neil Armstrong tribute shot- Barry: *finger guns*
Richard III grave shot- Barry: "Yo, Rick, how's it hangin'?"
Posted by: otho at December 05, 2013 09:21 PM (9gNQd)
I'll call them drag racing dogs.
Posted by: Joey "Two-Blasts" Biden at December 05, 2013 09:21 PM (wgzFF)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 09:23 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: give the man his due at December 05, 2013 09:23 PM (5fkya)
I'll call them drag racing dogs.
Posted by: Joey "Two-Blasts" Biden at December 06, 2013 01:21 AM (wgzFF)
I tipped the waitress and tried the veal.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:23 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Dead Afrikaaner Farmer at December 05, 2013 09:24 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: eman at December 05, 2013 09:25 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 05, 2013 09:27 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: give the man his due at December 06, 2013 01:23 AM (5fkya)
see here's the thing: 12 (or more) years of warfare. We've all lost close friends. So my give-a-fuck meter reads (tap tap) zero.
When I die I don't expect anyone to give a shit.
Call me jaded but that's what's "wrong with" us people. We're a warrior nation, like it or don't; agree or not, I don't give a shit.
We die. They die. Unless I knew you I don't care.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:27 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: give the man his due at December 06, 2013 01:23 AM
Howie Mandel really is dead?
Posted by: otho at December 05, 2013 09:28 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 09:29 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: eman at December 06, 2013 01:25 AM (AO9UG)
http://tinyurl.com/mu3vvn8
Posted by: PMRich at December 05, 2013 09:30 PM (KDUNf)
I'll donate a flaming tire for his casket. How's that?
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2013 09:30 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Deety at December 05, 2013 09:31 PM (3XUU4)
: -)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 01:29 AM (jdRXP)
I literally snorted.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:31 PM (x3YFz)
What is wrong with you people? A great man has died. Give him his due.
I'll donate a flaming tire for his casket. How's that?
Posted by: Methos at December 06, 2013 01:30 AM
Oh come on. That's uncalled for and not funny. Paul Walker wasn't all that bad.
Posted by: otho at December 05, 2013 09:32 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 09:32 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 09:35 PM (jdRXP)
Wutz u taukin' bout Willis? Paul Walker was very good looking!!!
Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 01:32 AM (jdRXP)
He was ok on the rant right up till "free people gotta be free"
Then, /cue eyeroll
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:36 PM (x3YFz)
F = mk
why? because it's fucking wrong! All lit professors should die in a giant car fire.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:39 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: GMB at December 05, 2013 09:39 PM (nkPV9)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 09:40 PM (jdRXP)
I have an appointment with Maxine Waters tomorrow morning at 10.
I assume you all would like to send your best wishes???
Posted by: DAve at December 05, 2013 09:41 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 09:42 PM (jdRXP)
I have an appointment with Maxine Waters tomorrow morning at 10.
I assume you all would like to send your best wishes???
Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 01:41 AM (b7yum)
dude. really? no seriously. Really?
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:42 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 05, 2013 09:42 PM (4NEdy)
Per LtCol Bateman, and no offense to any verterans of our outstanding Army, but from the big green machine has often come the (very few) American military officer bad apples who favor fascism.
Read Victor Krulak's "First to Fight" for a fascinating account of how the Marine Corps' attempt to save itself from extinction also resulted in their saving America from near-total loss of civilian control of the military. Of particular interest is Colonel Merritt Edson, of Edson's Raiders fame, who submitted his retirement so that he could speak freely in front of Congress against Eisenhower and Truman's plan.
Posted by: JustJoe at December 05, 2013 09:42 PM (JQPW9)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 05, 2013 09:45 PM (zeV2E)
How's the Nova watching?
Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 01:35 AM
Hey, A. Haven't seen it... yet. Only found out about it yesterday and it's been cloudy and rainy until today. Is it visible in the far far south? Don't know if it will be big enough to really see where I'm at, city wise. Going to have to look up the where and when stuff for tonight. You seen it?
Posted by: otho at December 05, 2013 09:45 PM (9gNQd)
If your appointment with one of the dumbest people to ever get elected is actually real. I ask one simple thing:
do not touch her or you will become infected with stupid.
Check 6 and keep your wits about you. You'll be entering the 4th gate of Hell.
She's got the IQ of a bag of peanuts but nonetheless, stay frosty.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:46 PM (x3YFz)
Doesn't well regulated mean properly functioning and isn't the proper function of a militia to get together with a bunch of well armed friends and shoot whoever is trying to take your guns?
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 05, 2013 09:47 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: JustJoe at December 06, 2013 01:42 AM (JQPW9)
thanks for the book rec. I just finished up a few books and need a new one, I'll give that a look.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:48 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 05, 2013 09:48 PM (Vk2pI)
Or should I change my framistan filter and recalibrate the ol' Reynolds wrap?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 05, 2013 09:49 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: DAve at December 05, 2013 09:49 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: DaveA at December 06, 2013 01:47 AM (DL2i+)
According to Jefferson and Tangonine: "Yup."
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:49 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 09:50 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: elaine at December 05, 2013 09:50 PM (GNZ0/)
Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 01:49 AM (b7yum)
They um... named a school *cough* after her?
Irony just hit me in the back of the head with a blackjack.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:51 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: DAve at December 05, 2013 09:52 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: give the man his due at December 05, 2013 09:53 PM (5fkya)
Posted by: DAve at December 05, 2013 09:53 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2013 09:54 PM (hO9ad)
I have a 275 gallon diesel ( heating oil) tank in my basement. If a house fire won't do it, a lighter will?
Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2013 11:50 PM (Ua6T/)
For Pete's sake, all you need is a wick. You can even set motor oil alight readily with a wick. Diesel is far better than gasoline for getting a campfire lit. Splash diesel on the sticks, which act as wicks, hold a match under one, and takes fire in seconds, and the fire spreads in a few more seconds. Doesn't explode like gasoline, and there's more heat in it, so the wood itself get's going in due course.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2013 09:54 PM (8Fl6F)
I didn't recognize the constellation name.
Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 01:50 AM
Too north for you? Sounds like I got buckleys chance. I think it's in centaurus?? Gonna have to look it up. Can't remember that shit anymore.
Posted by: otho at December 05, 2013 09:54 PM (9gNQd)
She made up for being horribly ugly by being incredibly incoherent.
Welcome to the world of black people vote for black people even if they're total dumbasses.
Fuckin 2Pac shoulda run, at least we'd have music.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:54 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 05, 2013 09:55 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 05, 2013 09:56 PM (BMh9U)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 09:56 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 09:57 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: DAve at December 05, 2013 09:57 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 01:54 AM (x3YFz)
That music?? Yikes, I would wear earplugs made from dead pygmy dick before listening to that crap.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2013 09:59 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 09:59 PM (jdRXP)
Having spent the majority of my time in the military behind a desk, and with a plethora of O-5(R)s about, LTC Bateman sounds much more like someone who has his eyes on making O-6 (and not being retired) than a fascist.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 06, 2013 01:55 AM (FlRtG)
I did 5 years pushing troops but the other 8 flying said desk. My desk had razor blades, zombie cutters and things that make E-4's cry.
You work with what you've got.
But yeah. he's what we call:
/consults military terms
/gathers a working group
/establishes a systems engineering working team
A fuckhead.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:01 PM (x3YFz)
nope! nope! nope!
I think I'm too far north for it!
Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 01:59 AM
Oh, ok. Might be hope for around here yet. Won't see shit unless it's fairly bright, though. Pity it's too south for you, you'd have a decent view on the border of town and desert.
Posted by: otho at December 05, 2013 10:03 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 10:03 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: a bad hack comic at December 05, 2013 10:04 PM (5fkya)
Posted by: a bad hack comic at December 06, 2013 02:04 AM (5fkya)
You just summed up Obamacare in one post.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:05 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 10:06 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 05, 2013 10:09 PM (4NEdy)
So doing the O course. I'll sneak the fuck in if I have to.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:10 PM (x3YFz)
You have no idea how hard this is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XJu-2E7RT4
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:11 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Zombie Hugo Chavez at December 05, 2013 10:15 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 10:15 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: a bad hack comic at December 06, 2013 02:04 AM (5fkya)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2013 10:18 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 05, 2013 10:19 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2013 02:18 AM (FMbng)
Solid B+
Posted by: GMB at December 05, 2013 10:20 PM (nkPV9)
Don't you mean the slides for the overhead projector?
Posted by: Arbalest at December 06, 2013 02:19 AM (FlRtG)
oh ok, you got the old jokes. It's on, speedy! Just let me get my cane.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:21 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: feminist artist Casey Jenkins at December 05, 2013 10:22 PM (zt0Zu)
Posted by: feminist artist Casey Jenkins at December 06, 2013 02:22 AM (zt0Zu)
...the fuck is this? Zork?
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:23 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: a bad hack comic at December 05, 2013 10:26 PM (5fkya)
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 05, 2013 10:30 PM (zeV2E)
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:33 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: a bad hack comic at December 06, 2013 02:04 AM (5fkya)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2013 10:33 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 02:33 AM (x3YFz)
Zork Nemesis?
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2013 10:35 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2013 02:35 AM (FMbng)
brother, I played that on the same monster I learned to code on: A trash-80.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:37 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 05, 2013 10:39 PM (Vk2pI)
/bangs cane against fireplace
We coded on magnetic tape drives and punch cards! You take your C# and stuff it. Cobol, Basic. C. Pascal.
/drinks something and cusses
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:39 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:42 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 05, 2013 10:43 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: 01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01010000 01101111 01101100 01101001 01110100 01101001 01100011 0 at December 05, 2013 10:45 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: GMB at December 05, 2013 10:47 PM (nkPV9)
Some of you know exactly what I mean: you had the tornado by the neck when we coded that. Down and dirty coding.
Like: blow up the computer if you get it wrong coding.
God, I miss those days of cases of mt dew and furrowed brow, 10 white boards scattered across an apartment no woman had ever set foot in. Phone calls to Bill at 0300 that start with "what's that goddam memory address? 6 or 8? Wake up! Fucker!"
Good shit.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:48 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Epobirs at December 05, 2013 10:49 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at December 05, 2013 10:50 PM (Wd1Zo)
Word smuggler? LOL! I know someone you might like. He's a friend. http://jesterscourt.cc/
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:54 PM (x3YFz)
/bangs cane against fireplace
We coded on magnetic tape drives and punch cards! You take your C# and stuff it. Cobol, Basic. C. Pascal.
/drinks something and cusses
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 02:39 AM (x3YFz)
Mag tape?!?!? You spoiled, rotten, hoity-toity, lazy bastards! Punched paper-tape on Teletype machines was the way real men stored their code.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 10:55 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 02:49 AM (bPxS6)
You tell 'em, Ep. Zork I. Even before it was I. I've got the nerd flag flying.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 10:56 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 02:42 AM (x3YFz)
COBOL is far more effective for thatÂ…
Posted by: 01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01010000 01101111 01101100 01101001 01110100 01101001 01100011 0 at December 06, 2013 02:45 AM (Vk2pI)
Y'know, you can program a bitchslap in a trice if you do it in Forth!
Posted by: Codehead at December 05, 2013 10:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Codehead at December 05, 2013 10:58 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at December 05, 2013 10:58 PM (Q4p8Q)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 02:55 AM (T1005)
Hey! I said punch cards!
And dude, I so can remember punch cards. jfc I'm old. there's not an app for punch cards. If I said "punch cards" in the classes I teach, I'd get blank stares.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:00 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Epobirs at December 05, 2013 11:05 PM (bPxS6)
Cut my teeth coding at assembly level with a PDP-8 in grad school. Have the microfiche appended on my PhD thesis to prove it.
Great fun, but finding a fiche reader these days is mighty hard to do.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 06, 2013 02:58 AM (Q4p8Q)
First: gratz on the docorate. Wife is 4 years into hers. I won't get one, I'm walowicz from the big bang theory: masters in eng. I'm too old and too tired, and the one thing I love no one offers a degree in within a 1K radius. And don't have $60K to drop on something no one will ever hire me to do (astrophysics). My kids call me "professor" and I constantly correct them: "It's staff sergeant, goddammit!" but they persist.
Second: microfiche! even spell check rejected the word, that's how old we are.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:07 PM (x3YFz)
bastards! Punched paper-tape on Teletype machines was the way real men
stored their code.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 02:55 AM (T1005)
Hey! I said punch cards!
And dude, I so can remember punch cards. jfc I'm old. there's not an app for punch cards. If I said "punch cards" in the classes I teach, I'd get blank stares.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 03:00 AM (x3YFz)
Ah, yes, punch cards -- and the "random floor sort" when the rubber-band broke....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 11:08 PM (T1005)
Posted by: buzzion at December 05, 2013 11:09 PM (LI48c)
Hey, does anyone remember a discussion in the ONT months ago about big potatoes? The really big ones they use in restaurant for big shared items? The first poster asked where one could these beasts. Today I was in a part of town I rarely visit, getting an oil change and went for a walk to kill some time. In the nearby Food 4 Less (part of the Kroger grocery empire) they had taters that could sustain a small family for a few days. They had to be at least three pounds or more.
I was tempted to get one but I couldn't think of what to do with it for just the three of us.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 05, 2013 11:14 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 03:08 AM (T1005)
I think even on AoS there's like 3 of us who'll get that.
I'm fn laughing.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:16 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: whoever at December 05, 2013 11:17 PM (zu9Ee)
Hey, does anyone remember a discussion in the ONT months ago about big potatoes? The really big ones they use in restaurant for big shared items? The first poster asked where one could these beasts. Today I was in a part of town I rarely visit, getting an oil change and went for a walk to kill some time. In the nearby Food 4 Less (part of the Kroger grocery empire) they had taters that could sustain a small family for a few days. They had to be at least three pounds or more.
I was tempted to get one but I couldn't think of what to do with it for just the three of us.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 03:14 AM (bPxS6)
I think that was me. You go to restaurants and get these honkin' spuds, then go to the grocery stores and get ones half the size. And the answer for what to do with 'em is, use 'em for twice-baked potatoes and serve 1/2 at a time.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 11:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2013 03:09 AM (LI48c)
i know this will sound harsh. so steady. sip your drink, it ain't personal:
I sat alert for 83 hours once. I also pushed a flight starting at 0200 till 0900 then pulled CQ then pushes same flight till 2100 next day.
Man.
Up.
Life don't care. Get it done.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:20 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:21 PM (x3YFz)
Cut it like a blooming onion and deep fry that sucker.
Yummy.
Posted by: GMB at December 05, 2013 11:21 PM (nkPV9)
Today a vietnam vet told me that noone had ever told him thank you or bought him lunch before.
I hear that about 50% of the time with the vietnam-era vets, especially the combat vets
2013
Posted by: DAve at December 05, 2013 11:22 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 03:08 AM (T1005)
I think even on AoS there's like 3 of us who'll get that.
I'm fn laughing.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 03:16 AM (x3YFz)
I wasn't at the time....there was a field available for "sequence number", but everyone always ignored it because you had to manually type it in. So your punch cards said "_________________FOR X=1 TO 1000" -- and when they hit the floor, you got to solve for X.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 11:23 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 11:25 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 05, 2013 11:27 PM (FlRtG)
Today a vietnam vet told me that noone had ever told him thank you or bought him lunch before.
Ihear that about 50% of the time with the vietnam-era vets, especially the combat vets
2013
Posted by: DAve at December 06, 2013 03:22 AM (b7yum)
about... shoot... a year ago? I was in Dairy Queen. Old dude + wife come in. Hat says 5th globe and anchor. Same Div as my dad served. He ate for free.
A fuckin cheeseburger is all I could give. But he had my thanks.
5th has been to hell and back and back to hell. I'm a wingnut and the only thing I love more than fighting Marines is when Marines are fighting.
Hoorah
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:29 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: whoever at December 05, 2013 11:31 PM (zu9Ee)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 05, 2013 11:33 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 05, 2013 11:36 PM (LI48c)
Now that everyone seems to have settled down, let me stir things up a bit.
Has anyone checked out:
www.goodrx.com/ ----Prescriptions, and not Canadian Pharmacy
www.medibid.com/ ---- They might be a search and negotiation company, thet will find local physicians, surgeons, facilities, etc., that will take cash
www.routethree.com/products/critical-insurance/
This might offer something like AFLAC, perhaps cover hospital stays, fixing broken bones, etc.
Does anyone have any information , thoughts, recommendations, etc.?
I started at a thread at Hot Air yesterday, related to opting out of 404Care, and ended up with these. Part of the problem I see is that they seem to want to get my information first. OTOH, they do seem to be somewhat reputable.
It looks like it might be possible to greatly mitigate the effects of 404Care and only have to deal with the IRS fine.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 06, 2013 03:27 AM (FlRtG)
To see the way forward, you have to look back before the distortions took hold -- when insurance was insurance against some catastrophic unlikely outcome....a good starting point is http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3012292
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 11:36 PM (T1005)
with the same frequency.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 06, 2013 03:33 AM (FlRtG)
holy crap on a cracker.
I'm actually being out-nerded! sonofabitch!
This has never happened. I must consult with my minions.
It's terrifying!
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:37 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 11:38 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: whoever at December 05, 2013 11:39 PM (zu9Ee)
Yeah I know. I did. It still sucks that I get to drive home in the shitty weather.
Posted by: Buzzion at December 06, 2013 03:36 AM (LI48c)
I've had a few white-knuckle drives home in CO through winding passes with a freaking jaggoff plow truck driver 3 inches from my rear bumper, so I empathize.
Good news is: If you live through it, it makes for a helluva story.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:41 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 11:41 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 11:46 PM (jdRXP)
Drive safe!
Cold moving in, but we're still dry ...
Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 03:41 AM (jdRXP)
Weather Underground currently shows rain at 90% tomorrow night.
There was a guy from Plano on a while back who was talking about rain that froze on things. I've seen that in pix, but never IRL....it looks like a serious PITA.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 11:46 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 11:48 PM (jdRXP)
So ... at least the students don't scream "Why you say punch cards?" ...
Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 03:38 AM (jdRXP)
You want sad? the black population is around 15 percent, yeah? 17? somewhere in there.
I've pushed maybe 300 students through physics in the last 18 months. Of those, when class started, 10 were black. 5 have passed.
I push more asians (this isn't racist, it's fact) than black students. Also, increasingly: women. I've been at this teaching game for about 20 years.
You used to never be able to find 1) a girl or 2) a hot girl in a physics class (believe me, as an undergrad I was hunting). Now?
Holy yoga pants hot smart chicks! And they're like evil smart. You do NOT mess with these girls, half of them are carrying, they've got knives, guns and brains. Which, as a dude, I have to admit is exceedingly frightening.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:48 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 06, 2013 02:43 AM (FlRtG)
Assembler hell!
MACHINE LANGUAGE!
00 f8 60
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 05, 2013 11:49 PM (LSDdO)
They're conservative.
You want a secret weapon to take back this country? Welp, there ya go.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:50 PM (x3YFz)
Drive safe!
Cold moving in, but we're still dry ...
Cold starting here right at the freezing point. Been raining all day with the forecast calling for sleet for the morning commute.
We work 12 hr shifts, weird rotation, with only 4 people even qualified for the position. You definitely hope that the next guy can make it in.
Posted by: PMRich at December 05, 2013 11:50 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 11:52 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 03:08 AM (T1005)
==
one day in lab I stood up fast from my chair without knowing there was a guy walking behind me with his stack-o-cards pinned between his hands. of course I bumped him, and naturally the middle of the stack slid free and hit the floor so all he left was the part on each end stuck in his grip.
I was so embarrassed.
Posted by: jc at December 05, 2013 11:53 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 05, 2013 11:53 PM (FlRtG)
Night, elder god.
I have never seen it IRL either, but last winter, a friend in Belgium said they had some in the previous week's storm. It has a special name in French ... St. Lucie's Tears or some such ...
Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 03:52 AM (jdRXP)
===
freezing rain has been happening here for the last 2-3 days. crazy slick out.
Posted by: jc at December 05, 2013 11:54 PM (PlzOe)
They're conservative.
You want a secret weapon to take back this country? Welp, there ya go.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 03:50 AM (x3YFz)
They were hot before, but they just got hotter.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 11:54 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 11:54 PM (jdRXP)
That rain that freezes on things...
Atlanta is bad for that stuff. Starts out just like it is here right now, rain > cold and rain > freezing rain. It's amazing how many trees and power lines come down in that stuff.
Posted by: PMRich at December 05, 2013 11:55 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Adriane... at December 05, 2013 11:57 PM (jdRXP)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 05, 2013 11:57 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 03:54 AM (T1005)
Hey HEY! You stay away from my girls. No pudding dipping and they need to be in bed by 8.
I'm hyperoverprotective.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 05, 2013 11:57 PM (x3YFz)
There was a guy from Plano on a while back who was talking about rain
that froze on things. I've seen that in pix, but never IRL....it looks
like a serious PITA.
Night, elder god.
I have never seen it IRL either, but last winter, a friend in
Belgium said they had some in the previous week's storm. It has a
special name in French ... St. Lucie's Tears or some such ...
Posted by: Adriane... at December 06, 2013 03:52 AM (jdRXP)
===freezing rain has been happening here for the last 2-3 days. crazy slick out.
Posted by: jc at December 06, 2013 03:54 AM (PlzOe)
Bad nastiness: http://tinyurl.com/lyedzju -- http://tinyurl.com/mtgfkew -- http://tinyurl.com/l7pvq33 -- http://tinyurl.com/lmwodaq .
Posted by: cthulhu at December 05, 2013 11:59 PM (T1005)
Thx Adriane. I just take the back roads home, safer than the interstate, and go slow.
A couple of years ago, it took me almost 4 hrs to get home when a major storm hit same time as evening rush hour.
I only live 25 miles from work
Posted by: PMRich at December 06, 2013 12:00 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 06, 2013 12:00 AM (LSDdO)
just have this overdeveloped protection thing going on.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 12:00 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 06, 2013 04:00 AM (LSDdO)
remember archie and veronica?
Gopher?
My first internet download was via gopher and was a sat pic of israel. 1991.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 12:03 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 03:54 AM (T1005)
Hey HEY! You stay away from my girls. No pudding dipping and they need to be in bed by 8.
I'm hyperoverprotective.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 03:57 AM (x3YFz)
I'm sure there are plenty of candidates that will have them in bed by 8....especially 'cause it's only <checks watch> 1:04 now.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 12:04 AM (T1005)
A few years ago I went for an update prescription for my glasses and the guy who did the exam noted that my blood pressure was quite spectacular. Such that he wanted to call an ambulance to take me to the ER right then and there. I resisted and went home. Some time later I had my mother drive me over to be examined. Doctor said wow and then said I'm admitting you.
They soon administered some drugs and my BP was soon within an acceptable range. I was fifty+ pounds overweight and the likely cause was obvious, though they did want to eliminate a possible blockage of the renal artery as that can get very serious. At that point they could have scheduled some tests as an outpatient and sent me home, knowing I had no insurance and this was already going to be expensive. But no, they kept me there for four days, sharing a room with a elderly dying man with no bowel control and a running vocalization of his suffering.
They then presented me with a bill for nearly $17,000, and that didn't even include all of the time for the assorted specialists who poked at me briefly. All told it was closer to $20K. I paid the specialists over the course of a year but the hospital got stiffed.
This price tag was simply absurd. After it was established that my BP was controlled by medication, there was no reason for me to remain more than a single night. That would have eliminated the bulk of the bill. The rest would still have been ridiculously high because they have to charge such inflated amounts to get compensated for any amount that covers the real cost. Government has well and truly screwed up the medical industry and the solution sure as hell isn't more of the same.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 12:05 AM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 06, 2013 12:07 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: jc at December 06, 2013 03:54 AM (PlzOe)
Bad nastiness: http://tinyurl.com/lyedzju -- http://tinyurl.com/mtgfkew -- http://tinyurl.com/l7pvq33 -- http://tinyurl.com/lmwodaq .
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 03:59 AM (T1005)
====
those pix are truly insane. I have never seen anything like that.
Posted by: jc at December 06, 2013 12:07 AM (PlzOe)
just have this overdeveloped protection thing going on.
Posted by: tagnonine at December 06, 2013 04:00 AM (x3YFz)
I think it goes with leadership. I've managed a ton of young comelies over the years, and [with VERY few exceptions] they're all "my guys" -- they get good references, career coaching, free technical help....and an angry bear when someone does 'em wrong.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 12:08 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 04:05 AM (bPxS6)
Yup.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 12:11 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 06, 2013 12:12 AM (HVff2)
Funny thing about those pictures. Ice covering cars, poles, streets .... buildings nada.
How damn high do they have the thermostat set in those places, and have they ever heard of insulation?
Posted by: PMRich at December 06, 2013 12:12 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: jc at December 06, 2013 03:54 AM (PlzOe)
Bad
nastiness: http://tinyurl.com/lyedzju -- http://tinyurl.com/mtgfkew --
http://tinyurl.com/l7pvq33 -- http://tinyurl.com/lmwodaq .
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 03:59 AM (T1005)
====those pix are truly insane. I have never seen anything like that.
Posted by: jc at December 06, 2013 04:07 AM (PlzOe)
Been hiding from me, have you?
Posted by: Mother Nature at December 06, 2013 12:13 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Mother Nature at December 06, 2013 04:13 AM (T1005)
===
as much as possible. you're kinda a bitch.
Posted by: jc at December 06, 2013 12:16 AM (PlzOe)
How damn high do they have the thermostat set in those places, and have they ever heard of insulation?
Posted by: PMRich at December 06, 2013 04:12 AM (KDUNf)
A couple of years back, the BH and I visited Saint Petersburg, Russia. Lovely place. Every year, around April, 200 pound chunks of ice fall off the faces of the buildings [most of which are about 3-4 stories tall] during the thaw. People are killed on a regular basis -- maybe not every year, but sometimes twice in one year.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 12:17 AM (T1005)
Process here is outside. When you lose flow in the winter, it's easiest to just walk the lines looking for the spot that has snow or ice still on the pipe.
Actually easier than the summer, but it sucks to be out there trying to clear a line in the cold
Posted by: PMRich at December 06, 2013 12:23 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 12:34 AM (bPxS6)
Actually easier than the summer, but it sucks to be out there trying to clear a line in the cold
Posted by: PMRich at December 06, 2013 04:23 AM (KDUNf)
Reminds me of something I saw near Osterley on the Piccadilly Line -- there were all these blocks of dwellings, but all the waste pipes were outside the walls (facing the trains). Being a SoCal guy, I always figured the waste pipes would run inside the walls, but they ran 'em outside.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 12:36 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 04:34 AM (bPxS6)
In Soviet Russia, you heat radiator!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 12:38 AM (T1005)
Most large cities have a central heating / cooling system, generally operated by a utility company. Makes more sense to have one central utilities house with piping to all of the large buildings.
Not all buildings will use these systems, but not having to maintain boilers / chillers, no need to design them into a building, and the air permitting requirements are getting tougher all the time. Letting a central BOHO handle all of that for you is a major plus.
Posted by: PMRich at December 06, 2013 12:48 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Rob Bateman at December 06, 2013 01:04 AM (6ahup)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 01:05 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 06, 2013 01:10 AM (6ahup)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 01:12 AM (T1005)
What did that poor pineapple do to deserve treatment like that?
Posted by: PMRich at December 06, 2013 05:10 AM (KDUNf)
OK, fine......a delinquent pineapple. Happy now?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 01:13 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 06, 2013 01:15 AM (6ahup)
Now down to 30 Deg, and what they call wintery mix here.
Rain, sleet, some snow - all at the same time
Posted by: PMRich at December 06, 2013 01:27 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 01:35 AM (bPxS6)
God bless us, every one! And keep warm!!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 02:04 AM (T1005)
Along with nausea
Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 06:04 AM (9jfyN)
Funny you should mention that.....I've been gradually increasing the strength and bitterness of my morning tea to the point where it's practically undrinkable and I'll get sick if I drink it too fast....and it's only recently that I've discovered that the way to fix the side effects is to not brew it so damned long in the first place. So, yeah -- I had nausea for breakfast....until I stopped brewing my breakfast tea like it was navy coffee.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 02:09 AM (T1005)
Heh I like my tea like I like my women, tan, hot, and stepped on ever so slightly...
Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 02:12 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 06:09 AM
You been stewing your tea? That's not good.
Posted by: otho at December 06, 2013 02:12 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: VADM(Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at December 06, 2013 02:15 AM (O7OxF)
Posted by: NativeNH at December 06, 2013 02:15 AM (J4csY)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 06:09 AM
You been stewing your tea? That's not good.
Posted by: otho at December 06, 2013 06:12 AM (9gNQd)
Part of it is that I'm late for my usual teamaker declogging.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 02:15 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 06, 2013 06:15 AM
I don't know what that means, but it sounds painful. You using kettle?
Posted by: otho at December 06, 2013 02:20 AM (9gNQd)
I dreamt it and Chicago had a baby called America....
Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 02:24 AM (9jfyN)
yes...
Looks like I have a visit with a dental drill in the near future or maybe I'll just convince the doc to yank the fucker
Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 02:34 AM (9jfyN)
yes...
Looks like I have a visit with a dental drill in the near future or maybe I'll just convince the doc to yank the fucker
Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 02:34 AM (9jfyN)
yes...
Looks like I have a visit with a dental drill in the near future or maybe I'll just convince the doc to yank the fucker
Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 02:34 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Carol at December 06, 2013 02:36 AM (z4WKX)
I'm certain you'll do the right thing and I hope he improves.
The ONT has been getting a lot of pre 0700 love the last few weeks.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 02:38 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at December 06, 2013 02:39 AM (Q9qpj)
Posted by: otho at December 06, 2013 02:40 AM (9gNQd)
GO AWAY BATEMAN!
//Lt Col Dumbelfuck CG F$A
Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 02:43 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Carol at December 06, 2013 02:43 AM (z4WKX)
You woke up precisely on time...
the world feels less worthy of headlines anyway the last few days....
how many times can you say "Goodbye Necklaces Mandela"?
Posted by: sven10077 at December 06, 2013 02:44 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Carol at December 06, 2013 02:45 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 06, 2013 02:57 AM (kkbgQ)
Posted by: Havedash at December 06, 2013 03:01 AM (ToMJU)
Free Republic Exclusive Content | Dec 6, 2013 | By Laz A. Mataz
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3098813/posts
Posted by: Baldy at December 06, 2013 03:04 AM (2bql3)
Posted by: sue at December 06, 2013 03:55 AM (OFa+H)
Posted by: Huggy at December 06, 2013 04:00 AM (9mWut)
The thread has been pulled after it was found that there were two Robert Batemans and the one in question didn't write the Esquire article.
He's still utterly wrong about the Constitution.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 06, 2013 04:12 AM (bPxS6)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at December 06, 2013 05:16 AM (1hM1d)
"But if you cannot bring down a defenseless deer tyrrannical azzhole in under five rounds, then you have no fking reason to be holding a killing tool considered a freeman in the first place."
FIFY
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2013 07:27 AM (Yv2t4)
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2013 07:30 AM (9eTPJ)
7. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military shall be kept under strict subordination to and be governed by the civil powers.
It's evident that the Founders wanted to keep the number of Amendments to a minimum: the First Amendment, for instance, actually covers five different issues, the Fifth an additional five and so on. In this highly compacted context, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to see 'item seven', compacted (maybe a little too well) for the sake of brevity, as being both the source and true meaning of the Second Amendment.
Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at December 06, 2013 07:51 AM (lILC0)
Posted by: PPs43 at December 06, 2013 07:53 AM (gg3bf)
I remember raising my hand and asking do you really think the Founder's thought it was necessary to add an Amendment to the Constitution that said the military was allowed to own rifles. Even the overwhelmingly liberal class burst into laughter because it was so absurd.
Posted by: McAdams at December 06, 2013 08:09 AM (2TMCu)
Posted by: Scott in Nebraska at December 06, 2013 08:10 AM (QCgQ1)
Posted by: Dan in Michigan at December 06, 2013 08:12 AM (2yD4G)
While the left tries to claim that the 2nd Amendment traces to Federalist 29 in which Hamilton describes the importance of Federalist control over the militia, the 2nd Amendment does not trace to Federalist 29, but to #13 of Mason's Rights.
Posted by: Aube Rouge at December 07, 2013 07:44 AM (B/13P)
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Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 05, 2013 06:50 PM (4Mv1T)