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December 08, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (12-8-2013)
— Maetenloch

Even Obama Can't Violate Fundamental Laws of Politics

There is an ironclad law of redistributive politics at play in the ACA (ObamaCare) fiasco.
This law is that concentrated interests almost always conquer diffuse interests. Milk producers are a concentrated interest. Milk consumers are a diffuse interest. Guess which group is favored by the long history of milk price supports? Dairy farmers get fat checks. School teachers and plumbers and accountants pay more for milk.

One corollary to this law is that legislators try to create concentrated benefits and diffuse costs by separating the funding mechanism (taxes on all) from the supply of benefits (a local interest). Perhaps your community benefits from a community center, educational program, or a resurfaced highway. Those projects almost always fail a simple cost-benefit test because if they made sense for local communities to do, they would just do them. If they don't, they seek assistance from their representatives in Congress.
...Vulnerable Democrats in Congress are starting to panic because they are seeing the consequences of violating the law of diffuse and concentrated interests. Those insurance cancellation letters and the higher prices faced by a portion of those shopping on the exchange are a small portion of the population (probably less than one percent), but they are highly concentrated, not to mention vocal.

Yep signs like this are a sign of a major politics FAIL:

Why Government Hates the Family

The long-term goal of the government's social policies are to flatten society out into one atomized mass. There will be only the state and the individual, and the individual will have no protection, no mediating institutions, between itself and the state.
Antipathy towards a wide variety of actors--the Catholic Church, the Boy Scouts, "special interests" of all types, political parties, private universities--can all be understood in light of this fact.
The government reserves special hatred for the family, because the family is older than the state and, unless steps are taken, will outlast it. It gives the individual a locus of attention besides the state, and therefore, must be crushed. The ongoing destruction of the concepts of both marriage and family by the left is intended to remove permanently the transcendent family from the political sphere, leaving only mere biological relationships, which are not enough to inspire resistance to the state.

Because your real family is all your fellow progressive comrades.

Fatal Shootouts

Both of these videos show people being fatally shot. They're not graphic but consider this a content warning.

Here two armed robbers in Brazil hold up a pizza place but don't realize a policeman saw them.

And here is another video showing a traffic stop gone bad.

Can you spot when the gunman was fatally shot? Answer: Nope because guns aren't death rays.

Woo Hoo We're Number 1!

Guess who is the world's largest producer of liquid and gaseous hydrocarbon fuels (oil, natural gas, and natural gas liquids)? For years it has been Russia, which is deeply dependent on the production and export of such products (taxes and tariffs on them provide 40 percent of the government's budget).
But this year, probably already, Russia will be overtaken by the United States, according to an article in the Wall Street Journal. U.S. oil production increased by more than a million barrels a day last year, the largest annual increase since oil production began in 1859. Russian oil production has been falling.
This has huge geopolitical implications and those implications all favor the United States. Imports of oil and gas are falling, down 15 and 32 percent respectively in the last five years, improving the balance of trade and reducing the political leverage of such countries as Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela.

And all this is despite Obama's best efforts.

Matt Yglesias Goes to a Walmart

And finds it surprisingly great.

Like most good urban liberals, I've been engaged in a lifelong near-boycott of Walmart. Not so much out of any deeply felt, principled objections to the store, but because they don't really build Walmarts in big liberal cities. When the company tries to set up shop in a liberal town, it's frequently stymied by union groups and their allies. The myriad zoning and permitting rules surrounding urban land create many avenues for groups with political clout to block disfavored stores, and such moves have, for example, kept Walmart out of New York City for years.

But on Wednesday, after running a gantlet of political obstacles, two new Walmarts opened in Washington, D.C. And the one I visited, at least, is pretty great.

But completely passÃ© since it didn't satisfy his needs at the moment.

Still, while wandering around, it was hard to avoid the conclusion that the urban-format Walmart may be an idea whose time has already passed. The store was actually surprisingly busy for a midmorning Wednesday, with seemingly half the off-duty shift workers and scooter-bound disabled residents of the city plying the aisles. But there was nothing I wanted to buy.

And here is a classic video of two brits visiting Walmart who find their snark overcome by admiration of the behemoth known as a Walmart Megastore.

The Coach Who Never Punts

Kevin Kelley is the head football coach at Pulaski Academy in Little Rock, Arkansas. In games, he instructs his team to never punt, to never receive punts, and almost always onside kick.
The numbers Kelley cites are that eye-popping. And he isn't cooking the books: Cal professor David Romer concluded that teams should not punt when facing fourth-and-4 or less; NFL stats analyst Brian Burke has detailed the need to rethink fourth-down decision-making; Football Outsiders has conflated punts with turnovers. You've even read about it on this site. Most fans and analysts who are willing to accept that change is a fundamental part of life have embraced the idea that automatically punting on fourth down doesn't make sense.
Since Kelley took over, Pulaski is 124-22 and has won three state titles.

5 Animal Rights Campaigns That Managed to Screw Over Animals

The Humane Society wanted to euthanize all of Michael Vick's dogs (luckily a judge disagreed) and then just a few years later worked to allow him to get more dogs. WTF?

NBC's 1983 Fall Preview of TV Shows

Man these sure sucked more than I remembered. Sturgeon's Law definitely applies.

Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [418 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)' [58.68 posts/day]
2 [410 comments] 'Nip Sip'
3 [401 comments] 'EC'
4 [348 comments] 'sven10077'
5 [294 comments] 'Flatbush Joe'
6 [291 comments] 'Mike Hammer'
7 [285 comments] 'Niedermeyer's Dead Horse'
8 [280 comments] 'garrett'
9 [269 comments] 'BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk'
10 [233 comments] 'toby928? insists on talking about robots'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [79 names] 'phreshone' [11.09 unique names/day]
2 [66 names] 'The Political Hat'
3 [65 names] 'Islamic Rage Boy'
4 [58 names] 'Brandon In Baton Rouge'
5 [50 names] 'Joe Biden'
6 [48 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
7 [45 names] 'Sir Edmund Hillary'
8 [43 names] 'Nip Sip'
9 [36 names] 'andycanuck'
10 [35 names] 'Caliban'

The group. Yeah.

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1 Evening, Morons

Posted by: fluffy at December 08, 2013 05:37 PM (Ua6T/)

2 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=4334

Posted by: Psychedelicat at December 08, 2013 05:39 PM (Vk2pI)

3 Second?

Posted by: fluffy at December 08, 2013 05:40 PM (Ua6T/)

4 You'll note the sign is addresed to those who "purchased" coverage, i.e., someone who 'paid' for it. See? obamacare won't really hurt obama's peeps. The 'political price' for this major policy reaming will be low for Democrats.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 05:42 PM (imJu1)

5 Hi & bye, looks like good reading

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2013 05:43 PM (HVff2)

6 Comments must be stuck. I read all the content and still 4th? Nah, can't be right.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 08, 2013 05:43 PM (w+zH+)

7 Evening, infidels.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 05:44 PM (4Mv1T)

8 Man these sure sucked more than I remembered.

I only remember two of the shows in that promo, but I think I recognized everyone in the bit at the end.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 05:44 PM (hO8IJ)

9 Snuck in there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 08, 2013 05:48 PM (GEICT)

10 Wasn't "Hello, Larry" on NBC?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 08, 2013 05:48 PM (V4CBV)

11 Hello people! I got the fudge made today but sadly the cookies and applesauce cake will wait for another day.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 05:48 PM (S2RnE)

12 Sunday Funday! Woot, bitches!

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 05:48 PM (eQJwb)

13 And where the fuck is peaches hiding?

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 05:49 PM (S2RnE)

14 Yeah, the 80's really sucked for tv. I don't know why. Apart from the odd show, it was pretty dire. No wonder video rental joints and vcr's went like gangbusters back then. The 60's and 70's were ok and generally it was ok in the 90's, but man, the 80's were sucky for tv. I'm pretty sure the correct thinking is that it was all Ronald Reagan's fault.

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 05:49 PM (9gNQd)

15 And where the fuck is peaches hiding? Posted by: madamemayhem ---------------------- She has not adapted to global cooling well at all.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 05:50 PM (4Mv1T)

16 Wasn't "Hello, Larry" on NBC?

Why, yes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programs_previously_broadcast_by_NBC

OMG, Kissyfur.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 05:50 PM (hO8IJ)

17 The Wal-Mart I went to in Raleigh was great, but our nearest Wal-Mart, in Duarte, is just plain awful. The store is a mess, display models are routinely broken and missing parts, and the staff is rude.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at December 08, 2013 05:51 PM (IlZPo)

18 Is there no one that the Obama Administration can hire to make Michelle look respectable? Just saw the Kennedy Center thing and that teal dress. Egads.

Posted by: Fritz at December 08, 2013 05:53 PM (TKFmG)

19 Evenin, morons.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 05:54 PM (UAMVq)

20 "and you will be responsible for charges."

Ok, ya, sure, just heal me and you can try to collect later.

Posted by: In other words. at December 08, 2013 05:54 PM (hb9zc)

21 Looks like most 'rons and 'ettes are still star gazing.

Posted by: tbodie at December 08, 2013 05:55 PM (6B4ha)

22 Is there no one that the Obama Administration can hire to make Michelle look respectable? Egads. Posted by: Fritz ------------------------------------------- I thought she looked dazzling.

Posted by: Mr. Ed at December 08, 2013 05:55 PM (4Mv1T)

23 18 Is there no one that the Obama Administration can hire to make Michelle look respectable? Just saw the Kennedy Center thing and that teal dress. Egads. Posted by: Fritz at December 08, 2013 09:53 PM (TKFmG) She usually looks like she's been upholstered. You'd think she'd hire a competent fashion consultant or something.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 05:55 PM (UAMVq)

24 Magnum PI sucked? Simon n Simon? Riptide? Cheers?

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 05:56 PM (ZCYJ1)

25 She usually looks like she's been reupholstered. You'd think she'd hire a competent fashion consultant or something. Posted by: Insomniac ------------------- amended

Posted by: Mr. Ed at December 08, 2013 05:57 PM (4Mv1T)

26 She usually looks like she's been upholstered. You'd think she'd hire a competent fashion consultant or something. Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 09:55 PM (UAMVq) "Â….a better speechwriter than my speechwriters and a better fashion consultant than our fashion consultants."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 08, 2013 05:57 PM (GEICT)

27 Dukes of Hazzard? A Team? Love Boot? Fantasy Island?

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 05:57 PM (ZCYJ1)

28 Equine sock off

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 05:58 PM (4Mv1T)

29 Golden Fossils?

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 05:58 PM (ZCYJ1)

Even Obama Can't Violate Fundamental Laws of Politics....

You do know that he can fix that with just one speech, right?

Posted by: tbodie at December 08, 2013 05:59 PM (6B4ha)

31 Hill Street Blues?

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 05:59 PM (ZCYJ1)

32 1980s TV was a blur for me. Graduated High school in 80 went to college for a year and a half and got kicked out. Worked crap jobs and drank way too much for a couple years. Then went to Vo tech for 8 hours a day with a 6 hour a day part time job and drank too much for 2 years. Graduated Vo Tech got a full time job and my first kid was born within 3 months. cut back a lot on the drinking but still didn't have much time for TV. Then it was the 90s.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 05:59 PM (TI3xG)

33 Yglesias is such an idiot. Urban walmarts will succeed because you can get stuff NOW, not 3 days later, and it'll be cheaper.

Amazon's prices aren't any better than Walmart's and you gotta pay shipping costs as well, and you gotta wait days to get your shit, and you expose yourself to all manner of online hack chicanery. Chances of getting identity theived at WMT when forking over greenbacks? ZERO. Absolute FUCKING ZERO.

Not everyone barricades themselves in their apartment 7x24 opening the door only for some UPS guy.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 08, 2013 06:00 PM (UVadJ)

34 I don't recall seeing any of those programs except "Facts of Life" occasionally. 1983 was not a good year. It might have been worse if I watched T.V.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:00 PM (BC6cY)

35 Geez #1. Hiatus from here. Must write more.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:00 PM (5oAy6)

36 Dukes of Hazzard?
A Team?
Love Boot?
Fantasy Island?

Silly soothie. Why would you want to watch good-looking people have entertaining adventures when you can watch assholes on an island eat bugs, or smarmy hipsters skank about?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 06:01 PM (hO8IJ)

37 >>>Graduated High school in 80 Damn, you're even older than Cougar. Well done on the Moron Lifestyle.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:01 PM (eQJwb)

38 Magnum PI sucked?

Simon n Simon?

Riptide?

Cheers?

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 09:56 PM

Magnum?: Not my thing, but didn't suck. For the 80's that was a good show.

S+S?: Never saw it.

Riptide?: Never heard of it.

Cheers?: See Magnum PI.

I'm not saying ALL 80's shows sucked. Just that the ratio of suck to good was very heavily suckage. I just remember a sea of suck sitcoms and soap operas.

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 06:02 PM (9gNQd)

39 I take that back; I was probably watching things that were on PBS but it was still not a good year.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:03 PM (BC6cY)

40 I loved Simon and Simon.

Posted by: mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 06:03 PM (P6QsQ)

41 Just a reminder, and it probably should have been on CAC's thread. Today was the latest sunrise of 2013 (to the minute), and the next 9 days will correspond. After that, sunrise will begin to occur earlier.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:03 PM (aDwsi)

42 I'll say this; for better or for worse, I am who I am today because of '70's and '80's TV. I was raised by TV.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 06:03 PM (ZCYJ1)

43 What little I remember of T.V. in the 80's (I was a teenager and we only got 3 channels) is the A Team, Hillstreet Blues, and Moonlighting. Of the three, I preferred the A Team.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 06:03 PM (S2RnE)

44 Was Hill Street Blues an 80s show.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 06:04 PM (BLAfs)

45 Gerald McRaney went on to do Major Dad. Then another show with him traveling the road in a camper. Then Deadwood. Now Longmire.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 06:05 PM (ZCYJ1)

46 Damn, you're even older than Cougar. Well done on the Moron Lifestyle.>>

I graduated at 17. Because I started school in West Virginia. My thought is they let us in early cause most were going to drop out at 16 and work in the mines.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:05 PM (TI3xG)

47 If I heard correctly today, the Bushes are traveling with the Obamas to Africa? There's a flight I would not be able to stand.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:05 PM (aDwsi)

48 Congrats commiserations to the Top tens...

man number 4...

thanks Ms Puma for saving me from myself.

Nice ONT Maet

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:06 PM (9jfyN)

49 I loved Dukes of Hazzard, The A-Team, and Knight Rider as a kid. Oh, and Airwolf. Newhart was a pretty good sitcom. Otherwise, I didn't see much TV. I do remember stumbling across Monty Python's Flying Circus on PBS and being some combination of confused and intrigued. And Carol Cleveland in lingerie was interesting, even though I was too young to appreciate it "fully."

Posted by: rfichoke at December 08, 2013 06:06 PM (J87gl)

50 I think HSBlues started in 79, to 85.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 06:06 PM (ZCYJ1)

51 I used to race home from school in the 80s to catch Magnum PI. That show was great when I was 13-16 or so.

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 08, 2013 06:07 PM (/7Xis)

52 Hunter with Fred Dryer!

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 06:07 PM (ZCYJ1)

53 The dude who wrecked his car didn't wreck his hair.

Posted by: redenzo at December 08, 2013 06:07 PM (SV01K)

54 I don't have a T.V. When is Nelson's Mandela's funeral or did they have that already? Who's the next dead person Obama can get his picture taken with?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:07 PM (BC6cY)

55 4 soothie at December 08, 2013 09:42 PM (imJu1)

No Soothie I think that a lot of successful in their job LIVs who vote donkey b/c "fairness" are about to find out that though invited for dinner by the mule the mule intends them to play the part of "course" not "guest."

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:07 PM (9jfyN)

56 41 Just a reminder, and it probably should have been on CAC's thread. Today was the latest sunrise of 2013 (to the minute), and the next 9 days will correspond. After that, sunrise will begin to occur earlier. I ask my wife every day "when do the days get longer?" Just to count down the days. Worst thing about winter to me is short light. Worse than the cold. (It doesn't really get cold here for very long at a time)

Posted by: traye at December 08, 2013 06:08 PM (PALVz)

57 I was raised by TV.

Yup. My mother just plopped me in front of it so I'd be out the way while she cared for the children who had the potential to not be worthless pieces of shit when they reached adulthood.

If you asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up, I wanted to be a garbageman. Because they got to hang out with Oscar the Grouch all day. Never should have let myself get talked out of that one.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 06:08 PM (hO8IJ)

Benny Hill was still going full steam ahead in the 80's also.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 06:08 PM (S2RnE)

59 26 She usually looks like she's been upholstered. You'd think she'd hire a competent fashion consultant or something. Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 09:55 PM (UAMVq) "Â….a better speechwriter than my speechwriters and a better fashion consultant than our fashion consultants." Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 08, 2013 09:57 PM (GEICT) Wouldn't surprise me if they shared the same combination of incompetence and hubris...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:08 PM (UAMVq)

60 If I heard correctly today, the Bushes are traveling with the Obamas to Africa?

There's a flight I would not be able to stand.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 10:05 PM (aDwsi)

One thing I am sure of. Bush could kick Obama'a ass. As far as Moochelle, that might be a hard one.

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 08, 2013 06:08 PM (/7Xis)

61 I didn't even own a TV until 1978. Weirdly, I bought it only to watch Battlestar Galactica. Lorne Greene as the commander. I should have saved my $.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:09 PM (aDwsi)

62 Couldn't someone who wasn't in middle school or high school in the 1980's plus chime in so that I don't feel like I'm about to shake off my mortal coil because of old age? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:09 PM (BC6cY)

63 If I heard correctly today, the Bushes are traveling with the Obamas to Africa? Bush Clinton Carter Obama. That's a big expanse of ocean to be crossed.

Posted by: traye at December 08, 2013 06:09 PM (PALVz)

64 I loved HS Blues dog breath. I learned the meaning of the word fecund watching. The sergeant who did roll call wanted a young girlfriend because she would be fecund. The female lead (Veronica Hamel?) was a dish.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 06:09 PM (BLAfs)

65 Is TV any better today? I ask because I don't really watch a lot of TV.

I liked Simon and Simon, but I don't remember Riptide. I was a teenager in the 80's as well and spent more time on cars and girls than TV, went to the Navy in 85 and didn't have a lot of time for TV from there on out either.

Evening roonz and roonettez, what's shakin'?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 06:09 PM (xa1/W)

66 Hat: Link and comment for you on your blog. It seems that the "Perfesser" took some heat for similar stuff back in 2009. The usual goobers defend her, by avoiding the details.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 08, 2013 06:10 PM (FlRtG)

67 Marty Bashir was only farting in womens mouths in the '80's.

Posted by: redenzo at December 08, 2013 06:10 PM (SV01K)

68 I ask my wife every day "when do the days get longer?" Just to count down the days. Worst thing about winter to me is short light. Worse than the cold. (It doesn't really get cold here for very long at a time) Posted by: traye ------------- You'll have to wait until the 21st for that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:10 PM (aDwsi)

69 Michelle has 23 or so assistants. Process that. 24 people with zero fashion sense in one spot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:10 PM (5oAy6)

70 Mostly I watched Hockey Night in Canada in the 80s.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 06:11 PM (BLAfs)

71 65 GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 10:09 PM (xa1/W)

Riptide was a "dork pet for the tough guys" crime show...

the Rousters was Wyatt Earp's nephew as a Carney bouncer....

no really

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:11 PM (9jfyN)

72 41 Just a reminder, and it probably should have been on CAC's thread. Today was the latest sunrise of 2013 (to the minute), and the next 9 days will correspond. After that, sunrise will begin to occur earlier.>>

I thought the reversal happened on the 21st of December "The winter Solstice"

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:11 PM (TI3xG)

73 21st is the shortest day. Let's get that shit over with. I need the light !!!!!!!!1

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 08, 2013 06:11 PM (/7Xis)

74 Evening roonz and roonettez, what's shakin'? Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 10:09 PM (xa1/W) Just dreading the start of another work week. What's shakin' with you?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:11 PM (UAMVq)

75 Fenelon - I was already a wife and mother by 1980, if that helps.

Posted by: mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 06:12 PM (P6QsQ)

80s TV....MTV when they played music, although "Remote Control" was damn funny. I loved the 80s.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 08, 2013 06:12 PM (jlm/B)

77 GGE - Lenoir?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:12 PM (aDwsi)

78 Couldn't someone who wasn't in middle school or high school in the 1980's plus chime in so that I don't feel like I'm about to shake off my mortal coil because of old age? Graduated in 87 but most of the 80s are a black hole to me. I remember I got drunk and high and chased girls but most of the details are really fuzzy.

Posted by: traye at December 08, 2013 06:12 PM (PALVz)

79 Kevin Kelley is a raging asshole. He gets all kinds of credit for his innovative approach to football. It's all bullsh*t. he s successful because he coaches at a private school and can recruit the players he wants. Our high school played in the same conference as Pulaski Academy (PA) for two years. During that time, we played them 3 times losing all three by substantial margins. In those three games, we recovered all but one onside kick. In fact in the first meeting, they turned the ball over 5 times. The 2nd of the two years, we went into a regular season game with them as number 2 in the state (they were number one). The score was 47-0 at halftime. We met again in the state championship game. The final that time was 63-28. That season, he had 5 Division 1 prospects and several more Division Two players. The student population of his school is about 350 or so. Yeah, it's his innovative approach to football.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 08, 2013 06:13 PM (uzmcT)

80 Posted by: mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 10:12 PM (P6QsQ) Thanks. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:13 PM (BC6cY)

81 One thing I am sure of. Bush could kick Obama'a ass. As far as Moochelle, that might be a hard one. Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 08, 2013 10:08 PM (/7Xis) I guarantee you Laura would cut her with words. Mooch would bleed out without ever knowing what happened.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 08, 2013 06:13 PM (GEICT)

82 . I learned the meaning of the word fecund watching. That's so weird! I learned the word 'supple' watching Hill Street Blues. I shit you not. Det Bobby Larue used the word in a scene to describe young boobs.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 06:13 PM (ZCYJ1)

83 . I learned the meaning of the word fecund watching. That's so weird! I learned the word 'supple' watching Hill Street Blues. I shit you not. Det Bobby Larue used the word in a scene to describe young boobs.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 06:13 PM (ZCYJ1)

84 69 Michelle has 23 or so assistants. Process that. 24 people with zero fashion sense in one spot. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 10:10 PM (5oAy6) It beggars belief, but nevertheless there it is.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:13 PM (UAMVq)

85 I didn't even own a TV until 1978. Weirdly, I bought it only to watch Battlestar Galactica. Lorne Greene as the commander. I should have saved my $. Posted by: Mike Hammer ------------------------------------- I bought my first TV in '79. I didn't want to miss an Ali fight.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:14 PM (4Mv1T)

86 Just dreading the start of another work week. What's shakin' with you?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 10:11 PM (UAMVq)

Work week has already started. Break time for the next 15 minutes or so, but they've already got 3 things broke in the past 10 minutes to keep me amused when I come back off break.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 06:14 PM (xa1/W)

Well the allergy meds have kicked in and I'm gonna bug out for snoozeville soon. I will leave you all with the suggestion to check you tube for Chris Jagger performing the song "Concertina Jack". Mick's younger brother (who knew?) has a very different sound than the old guy and you can catch Mick on the background vocal. Be Warned: This song is terminally catchy! It has been stuck in my head since I first heard it 2 days ago.

Have a good night everyone!

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 08, 2013 06:14 PM (S2RnE)

88 Couldn't someone who wasn't in middle school or high school in the 1980's plus chime in so that I don't feel like I'm about to shake off my mortal coil because of old age? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 10:09 PM (BC6cY)

*chime, chime*

Now get off my lawn.

Posted by: tbodie at December 08, 2013 06:14 PM (6B4ha)

89 I think I'm going to go watch Night Court while I eat my pie.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 06:14 PM (hO8IJ)

90 Countdown to the Colorado Morondezvous! Six days! The RSVPs are pouring in! Are YOU going to be there? (Details at the Yahoo group)

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 06:15 PM (GRLuN)

91 Hey, I was born in 1981. That probably didn't help you old folks, huh?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 08, 2013 06:15 PM (GEICT)

92 Michelle has 23 or so assistants. ------ When you are without significant skills, it requires a great deal of assistance.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:15 PM (aDwsi)

93 Work week has already started. Break time for the next 15 minutes or so, but they've already got 3 things broke in the past 10 minutes to keep me amused when I come back off break. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 10:14 PM (xa1/W) Sounds like a ball. What was broken?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:15 PM (UAMVq)

94 And happy Sunday, all!

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 06:15 PM (GRLuN)

95 Miami Vice

Posted by: tmitsss at December 08, 2013 06:15 PM (Pa9vP)

96 79 Zombie John Gotti at December 08, 2013 10:13 PM (uzmcT)

There is almost never anything totally "new" in football...

Mr. Kelley's act was called "Francis "Shut the Gates of Mercy" Schmidt in the early 20th century.

http://tinyurl.com/pv7nhb2

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:15 PM (9jfyN)

97 Heather, Harry or Bull? Or Dan Fieldings?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:15 PM (5oAy6)

98 Is TV any better today? I ask because I don't really watch a lot of TV.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 10:09 PM

No, it's not. There's a hell of a lot more, but that means more shit. Mind you the ratio's probably improving. The 00's, generally were fucking sucktastic. Arguably worse than the 80's. For all the faults of 80's shows, at least there was an effort... even if it meant they were trying hard at sucking. The 00's saw the zenith of wall to wall reality tv suckage.

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 06:16 PM (9gNQd)

99 GGE - Lenoir?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 10:12 PM (aDwsi)

I ended up not going. Got up Saturday and changed the oil in the Subi, broke the replacement mirror glass for the passenger side mirror trying to put it in, got pissed off, took a shower and started a fire instead. It was a good day for a fire, not such a good day for driving across the state for 3 hours each way.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 06:16 PM (xa1/W)

100 Born in '81??? Babies. I'm talking with babies.

Posted by: mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 06:17 PM (P6QsQ)

101

The '80's were a blur. While scabbing a load of asphalt out of Bayonne I got shot by a union thug. My good fortune it was only in the arm. I pulled the 80000 lb tractor trailer into the hospital lot.

I got paid a lot of money and funded the current business model I'm living on now.

Posted by: redenzo at December 08, 2013 06:17 PM (SV01K)

102 BCochran. Just a shin kick or two. Never mind the yells of 'Get off my lawn!' and being run over by someone's V-8 wheelchair...

That's all

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:17 PM (5oAy6)

103 I think I'm going to go watch Night Court while I eat my pie. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ ---------------------------- Yea, this is a snoozer tonight. G'night, Ms. Radish.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:17 PM (4Mv1T)

104 Barney Miller

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:17 PM (aDwsi)

105 I do not understand why on earth the Bushes would even consider traveling one block with TFG & his wife. I believe NDH, sorry if I am giving her credit, when it should be to someone else, said sheÂ’d like to see how the media reacts if Reverend Graham passes compared to Mandela. GWB is a good man, if I were him I would avoid SCOAMF like the plague he is. Now that he has been gone for over five years and the youth has abandoned SCOAMF, Bush going with him gives some creditability to the JEF. The Bushes should have gone by themselves. Did they go to Dame ThatcherÂ’s funeral? I do not believe anyone as a United States delegation. They went privately. I believe Jim Baker went but I could be wrong, along with others from the Reagan admin. but they went as private citizens. Dame Thatcher was a US Ally, what did Mandela do for us?

Posted by: Carol at December 08, 2013 06:17 PM (z4WKX)

106 100 mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 10:17 PM (P6QsQ

Ma'am if it is any consolation my wife instructs kids born in 1996 in soldiering.

Time she never quits rambling.

Sven-hatched in '72 rip mom

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:18 PM (9jfyN)

107 I bought a VCR to tape Miami Vice

Posted by: tmitsss at December 08, 2013 06:18 PM (Pa9vP)

108 Babies. I'm talking with babies. Posted by: mama winger's iPad ----------------------- At least their not eating paste, like one of mine tonight.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:18 PM (4Mv1T)

109 Sounds like a ball. What was broken?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 10:15 PM (UAMVq)

So far a polisher, a grinder and an acid bench. That's just in the past 15 minutes. Before that a scrubber, another polisher, two filter units and some water filters to be changed, but I got all that done before break.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 06:18 PM (xa1/W)

110 "Guess who is the world's largest producer of liquid and gaseous hydrocarbon fuels (oil, natural gas, and natural gas liquids)? For years it has been Russia, which is deeply dependent on the production and export of such products (taxes and tariffs on them provide 40 percent of the government's budget)." Which is part of the reason why Russia likes to arm the Middle East; the resulting instability keeps oil prices higher than they might otherwise be.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 08, 2013 06:19 PM (ZyqBH)

111 102 BCochran. Just a shin kick or two. Never mind the yells of 'Get off my lawn!' and being run over by someone's V-8 wheelchair... That's all Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 10:17 PM (5oAy6) Those new chairs are nifty, but I still think I can outrun one.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 08, 2013 06:19 PM (GEICT)

112 Yep; Some of these were what I was watching in the the 1980's. PBS is impossibly liberal but they got some great programs from England: Season 14: 1984-1985 The Barchester Chronicles The Jewel in the Crown All for Love Strangers and Brothers Season 13: 1983-1984 Pictures The Citadel The Irish RM, I The Tale of Beatrix Potter Nancy Astor Season 12: 1982-1983 To Serve Them All My Days The Good Soldier Winston Churchill: The Wilderness Years On Approval Drake's Venture Private Schulz Sons and Lovers Season 11: 1981-1982 A Town Like Alice Edward and Mrs. Simpson The Flame Trees of Thika I Remember Nelson Love in a Cold Climate Flickers Season 10: 1980-1981 Crime and Punishment Pride and Prejudice Testament of Youth Danger UXB Therese Raquin 10th Anniversary Favorites: The Golden Bowl Cousin Bette Upstairs, Downstairs Sunset Song

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:19 PM (BC6cY)

113

Michelle carries a razor to settle those bitch fights. It's a cultural thing.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 08, 2013 06:19 PM (pJF+c)

114 101 redenzo at December 08, 2013 10:17 PM (SV01K)

Now the unions are shooting everyone in the ass...

I am glad you made it...too many union violence victims don't.

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:19 PM (9jfyN)

115 So far a polisher, a grinder and an acid bench. That's just in the past 15 minutes. Before that a scrubber, another polisher, two filter units and some water filters to be changed, but I got all that done before break. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 10:18 PM (xa1/W) Sounds like you have your hands full.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:19 PM (UAMVq)

116 >>>Hey, I was born in 1981. That probably didn't help you old folks, huh? IM THE YOUNGEST MORON HERE

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:19 PM (eQJwb)

117 Heather, Harry or Bull? Or Dan Fieldings?

I'm just wild about Harry. Heh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 08, 2013 06:19 PM (hO8IJ)

118 I bought a VCR to tape Miami Vice Posted by: tmitsss ------------------------- I did too!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:19 PM (4Mv1T)

119 Anybody else besides me remember when Ike was president?

Posted by: mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 06:20 PM (P6QsQ)

120 Obamacare is not the hill to fight on

Posted by: Mitch The Bitch McConnell at December 08, 2013 06:20 PM (Pr6hk)

121 Fenelon, if its any consolation I graduated HS in 80 and spent the rest of the decade touring the world with Uncle Sams flying club.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 08, 2013 06:21 PM (waJ+2)

122 In the Heat of the Night wasn't a good late 80s tv show Can't imagine it would ever be made today for broadcast TV with all the PC bullshit.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at December 08, 2013 06:21 PM (KCvsd)

123 >>>Anybody else besides me remember when Ike was president? My dad doesn't remember that.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:21 PM (eQJwb)

124 Hey, I was born in 1981. Just stop them would ya, or I'm gonna beat you with my cane ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:21 PM (BC6cY)

125 IIRC that VCR cost about $700.00

Posted by: tmitsss at December 08, 2013 06:21 PM (Pa9vP)

126 118 Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 10:19 PM (4Mv1T)

I was more a Crime Story kinda guy....

119 mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 10:20 PM (P6QsQ)

Vic was there when Richard the IIId was simply 2d in line for the crown ma'am....
he calls Ike "knickers"

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:21 PM (9jfyN)

127 119 Anybody else besides me remember when Ike was president? Posted by: mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 10:20 PM (P6QsQ) You mean Kyle Broflovski's little brother?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (UAMVq)

128 Harry got his start on Cheers.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (ZCYJ1)

129 It's all been downhill after Hee Haw and the Black and White Minstrel show..

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (9gNQd)

130 Danger UXB

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 10:19 PM (BC6cY)

That was a good series with a pre-Brideshead Anthony Andrews

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (JivuR)

131
Anybody else besides me remember when Ike was president?

Posted by: mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 10:20 PM (P6QsQ)

I graduated HS when Ike was president.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (pJF+c)

132 If you actually listed all of the new shows for each decade I think you would find that most of them were crud. The 80's were the height of violent non-violence. Sure everyone had "assault weapons" but they couldn't hit anything. Therefore, it had to be resolved either via car chase, explosions (somehow better than bullets), or a fist fight.

Posted by: Chris at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (crkWb)

133 After watching that video of the therapy dog I want to punch Michael Vick in the nuts more than ever. We should never forget what a scum-sucking rat-fucking bastard he is.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (DmNpO)

134 That's it. I'm changing my nic.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (P6QsQ)

135 Fawlty Towers ran in the late 70s but it was still funny in the 80s.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (BLAfs)

136 125 IIRC that VCR cost about $700.00 Posted by: tmitsss at December 08, 2013 10:21 PM (Pa9vP) And the size of a suitcase to boot.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (UAMVq)

137 >>>Anybody else besides me remember when Ike was president? ----------------------------- I helped renovate a church chapel that was last painted when he was in office.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (4Mv1T)

138 I remember IKE

Posted by: tmitsss at December 08, 2013 06:22 PM (Pa9vP)

139 Hey, I was born in 1981.

That probably didn't help you old folks, huh?>>

Doesn't help or hurt me one way or the other. But IIRC your kids are older than my grand kids. And you will (if your lucky) be in my aged shoes. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:23 PM (TI3xG)

140 Sounds like you have your hands full.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 10:19 PM (UAMVq)

Job security.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 06:23 PM (xa1/W)

141 Funny I had a BLACK AND WHITE TV in the 80s. Also Allo Allo was always funny on PBS and they had on some Irish Comedian that did some Sketch comedy and he would start off on stage drinking and smoking, anybody know who that was.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 08, 2013 06:23 PM (b6koZ)

142 Northern Exposure started in 1990. I loved that show. One of my all time favorites.

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 08, 2013 06:23 PM (/7Xis)

143 129 otho at December 08, 2013 10:22 PM (9gNQd)

One simply cannot top Hee Haw....impossible...chickens laying dynamite bomblets...it's all good.

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:23 PM (9jfyN)

144 In the Heat of the Night wasn't a good late 80s tv show **** My daughter, who was quite young at the time, loved it. It was one of the few shows we could watch together.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 06:23 PM (DmNpO)

145 Anybody else besides me remember when Ike was president?

Posted by: mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 10:20 PM (P6QsQ)

Nope, LBJ was destroying the country when I was born

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2013 06:23 PM (JivuR)

146 135 Fawlty Towers ran in the late 70s but it was still funny in the 80s. Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 10:22 PM (BLAfs) Damn funny show. Some of John Cleese's best work.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:23 PM (UAMVq)

147 >>>That's it. I'm changing my nic. I laughed. Well played, gramma.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:23 PM (eQJwb)

148 The very first article, is wrong... The problem is that the Cost is Transparent, and covers MUCH more than the 1% the article tries to use to dismiss the colossal blunder called Obamacare. It is nothing more than the restructuring of 1/6th of the Economy... and in one way or another affects EVERY person in America... it creates winners, but may more LOSERS... It is the Mailed Fist of Tyranny... of Large Government... of Government which is NOT ACCOUNTABLE to the people.... And the people know it...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2013 06:23 PM (lZBBB)

149 Oh FS, spent all of junior high and high school, plus most of college in the 80's. I am truly a child of that decade.

Posted by: Chris at December 08, 2013 06:24 PM (crkWb)

150 I just posted the "Don't mention the Germans" from "Fawlty Towers" a few days ago, That is stilll funny.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:24 PM (BC6cY)

151 I'm gonna buy you a drink Doctor Fish.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 08, 2013 06:24 PM (P6QsQ)

152 80s ===> Benny Hill, nipples!!!

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2013 06:24 PM (pxx5O)

153 101 same thing happened to my dad, although he had nothing to do with any union. He was independent driver and I don't remember the details because I was so young, but my mom and I were on the truck with him when union guys shot into it. Didn't hit anybody, luckily.

Posted by: traye at December 08, 2013 06:24 PM (PALVz)

154 Aloha!

Posted by: *checks* Hands not (currently) in pants at December 08, 2013 06:24 PM (T1005)

155 Funny I had a BLACK AND WHITE TV in the 80s.
Also Allo Allo was always funny on PBS and they had on some Irish Comedian that did some Sketch comedy and he would start off on stage drinking and smoking, anybody know who that was.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 08, 2013 10:23 PM (b6koZ)

Dave Allen. He would actually have stage hands giving him drinks as he told jokes and introduced sketches

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2013 06:24 PM (JivuR)

156 Posted by: mama wingerÂ’s iPad at December 08, 2013 10:20 PM (P6QsQ) Mama Winger, I was born in 1959, so I donÂ’t remember Ike being president. First president I remember is LBJ & at my age I thought he was a scary man. I think he showed a scar on television from surgery, but I was a kid.

Posted by: Carol at December 08, 2013 06:25 PM (z4WKX)

157 Funny I had a BLACK AND WHITE TV in the 80s.
Also Allo Allo was always funny on PBS and they had on some Irish Comedian that did some Sketch comedy and he would start off on stage drinking and smoking, anybody know who that was.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 08, 2013 10:23 PM

Dave Allen. Good show.

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 06:25 PM (9gNQd)

158 "Do you want a Koblenz salad?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:25 PM (5oAy6)

159 And, as far as the 80's go, it was all about these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBEp0OObU9U

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 06:25 PM (DmNpO)

160 That's it. I'm changing my nic.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 08, 2013 10:22 PM (P6QsQ)

LOL

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 06:25 PM (xa1/W)

161 AoS Rest Home. Jeez this is an old crowd.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:26 PM (4Mv1T)

162 Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2013 10:22 PM (JivuR) Yes; It was very good. I still remember the pleasure I had in watching so many of those series

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:26 PM (BC6cY)

163 I listened to the Kennedy/Nixon debate on the radio. I was 9 at the time. This is the first news moment I can recall. I thought Nixon won the debate until I saw the telecast.

Posted by: redenzo at December 08, 2013 06:26 PM (SV01K)

164 59 was a very good year.

Posted by: tbodie at December 08, 2013 06:26 PM (6B4ha)

165 "The Humane Society wanted to euthanize all of Michael Vick's dogs (luckily a judge disagreed) and then just a few years later worked to allow him to get more dogs. WTF?" Not surprised. The national Humane Society has had a bad reputation for years. They're more interested in pushing a political agenda than in protecting actual animals. The local Humane Societies are pretty good. I wouldn't donate to any of these national organizations. Most communities have very good rescue groups that are locally run and whose entire focus is on finding homes for pets that would otherwise be put to sleep. Michael Vick and other people involved in dog fighting should not be allowed to own dogs. Period. The fact that he is a pro athlete shouldn't get him special treatment.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 08, 2013 06:27 PM (6da/j)

166
I'm gonna buy you a drink Doctor Fish.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 08, 2013 10:24 PM (P6QsQ)

My last quest in life? Live to see ObamaCare repealed and this administration prosecuted for fraud, obstruction of justice, and subordination of perjury.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 08, 2013 06:27 PM (pJF+c)

167 An odd thing I remember from childhood is being confused by the NBC peacock. It would say the next show was being broadcast in living color. But on our Black and White TV it looked the same as all the others.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:27 PM (TI3xG)

168 161 Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 10:26 PM (4Mv1T)

What sonny, you'll need to speak up I am going deaf....?
//Grampy(please God no) Sven

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:27 PM (9jfyN)

169 That Brazilian cop was lucky. Going thru plate glass is dicey - that round could have gone anywhere.

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2013 06:27 PM (pxx5O)

170 Cattlecar Galaxica http://www.galacticafanfic.com/images/comics/bsg-mad1.html

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 06:27 PM (dCwZe)

171 I just posted the "Don't mention the Germans" from "Fawlty Towers" a few days ago, That is stilll funny.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 10:24 PM (BC6cY)

I can't do Jimmy Cagney. Here, who's this then (fingers over upper lip). I'll do the funny walk too.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2013 06:28 PM (JivuR)

172 164 59 was a very good year. Posted by: tbodie at December 08, 2013 10:26 PM (6B4ha) Yup.... so good Brian Seltzer even wrote a song about it.... LOL....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2013 06:28 PM (lZBBB)

173 I'm gonna buy you a drink Doctor Fish.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 08, 2013 10:24 PM (P6QsQ)

At least you know he's old enough. Not like all these damn kids in here.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 06:28 PM (xa1/W)

174 The Benny Hill sketch when the bum and the Rich guy get swapped, The Bum goes to the "Private Hospital" with all the hot nurses and the Rich guy has to use the Public Hospital. I thought that was funny, now not so much.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 08, 2013 06:28 PM (b6koZ)

175 169 Jean at December 08, 2013 10:27 PM (pxx5O)

Jean Brazil has a different risk/reward analysis culturally than we do.

They are also nowhere near as hyper-litigious as we've become.

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:29 PM (9jfyN)

176 AoS Rest Home. Well, the rockers on the porch we stole from Cracker Barrell are very nice.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:29 PM (BC6cY)

177
The Ford Edsel was in its second unsuccessful year in '59. Over.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 08, 2013 06:29 PM (pJF+c)

178 Anybody else besides me remember when Ike was president?

Posted by: mama winger's iPad at December 08, 2013 10:20 PM (P6QsQ)

Ya. So? Gary Francis Powers U2 was shot down. What else. Federal Troops to Little Rock? (Wait, let me check that.) Ya, ok . I was in the sixth grade and didn't start shooting my daddies 12ga until the next year when I got a 20ga single shot for my birthday.

Posted by: In other words. at December 08, 2013 06:30 PM (hb9zc)

179 Just to reveal how old I am the first television I recall never missing was The Avengers with Patrick Macnee and Dianna Rigg. My word I thought she was gorgeous. I was also a devoted follower of The Prisoner. I am a man, not a number.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 06:30 PM (BLAfs)

180 The 1980 US/Russia Olympic hockey game set up the '80's decade. That's right we are exceptional.

Posted by: redenzo at December 08, 2013 06:30 PM (SV01K)

181 Fawlty Towers.

Manuel is practicing his English. And the Colonel thinks the moose head is talking.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:30 PM (5oAy6)

182 you know Dad says the Edsel got a bad rap...

given he was 18ish when it came out he'd know better than me.

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:30 PM (9jfyN)

183 Screw Julia and I would if I could find her. Sandra Fluke too.

Posted by: Comanche BuffAlo Humper at December 08, 2013 06:30 PM (VAche)

184 Magnum PI was actually more of a '70's show, although it continued into the '80's. I spent a good part of the 80's either in class, or working nights. Or hanging out in bars. Or something. I do remember buying a color TV and a VCR so I could watch all the stuff I was missing working nights. And that's when Letterman started on NBC, and was actually really funny for a few years. Now he is just a tired and bitter old man, like me. And get off my lawn.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 06:31 PM (dCwZe)

185 179 Just to reveal how old I am the first television I recall never missing was The Avengers with Patrick Macnee and Dianna Rigg. My word I thought she was gorgeous. Nobody wants to recall me,

Posted by: The Avengers Movie (1998) at December 08, 2013 06:31 PM (ZyqBH)

186 OK, back to work now. Catch you at lunch.

Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 08, 2013 06:32 PM (xa1/W)

187
.....you know Dad says the Edsel got a bad rap...

My girlfriends dad owned an Edsel, and I can attest to the uniqueness of the back seat.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 08, 2013 06:32 PM (pJF+c)

188 osted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 10:30 PM (BLAfs) Those were great shows.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:32 PM (BC6cY)

189 4 You'll note the sign is addresed to those who "purchased" coverage, i.e., someone who 'paid' for it. See? obamacare won't really hurt obama's peeps. The 'political price' for this major policy reaming will be low for Democrats. Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 09:42 PM (imJu1) A lot of doctors in my area already don't accept medicaid patients. That is why a lot of low income people still go to emergency rooms for routine care. They don't have family doctors. And the new patients who have gotten on medicaid because of its expansion in Obamacare will have the same problem.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 08, 2013 06:32 PM (6da/j)

190 185 The Avengers Movie (199

at December 08, 2013 10:31 PM (ZyqBH)

Not true I rather enjoyed about 7 minutes of you....when they showed Mr. Steed going through the motions in training.

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:32 PM (9jfyN)

191 185 179 Just to reveal how old I am the first television I recall never missing was The Avengers with Patrick Macnee and Dianna Rigg. My word I thought she was gorgeous. Nobody wants to recall me, . Posted by: The Avengers Movie (199

at December 08, 2013 10:31 PM (ZyqBH) Nope. That's because you sucked donkey balls.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:32 PM (UAMVq)

192 You are Number Six. I am not a number, I am a free Man! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Patrick McGoohan was a great actor. Do you remember "Secret Agent". That was a great show too.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 06:33 PM (dCwZe)

193 IM THE YOUNGEST MORON HERE

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 10:19 PM (eQJwb)

82 here

Posted by: The Dude at December 08, 2013 06:33 PM (vJdyz)

194 Fix all that broken stuff, would 'ya GGE?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:33 PM (4Mv1T)

195 Pot roast is done. And it is out fucking standing.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:33 PM (eQJwb)

196 No one wants to remember Uma trying to be Emma Peel. Or Ralph as John Steed. Sorry but Patrick had the debonair secret agent mien down pat. And Riggs in the skin tight suit, long long before 7 of 9 yowza.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:33 PM (5oAy6)

197 192 You are Number Six. I am not a number, I am a free Man! "Be seeing you."

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 06:33 PM (UAMVq)

198
It does my heart good knowing that hooker's can now be covered by O'BumbleCare. And Uncle Oscar and Aunt Zeutini too!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 08, 2013 06:34 PM (pJF+c)

199 >>>82 here 83. I win. Again,

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:34 PM (eQJwb)

200 Fawlty Towers ran in the late 70s but it was still funny in the 80s.
Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 10:22 PM (BLAfs)

Damn funny show. Some of John Cleese's best work.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 10:23 PM

There were some really good shows in the 70's, even the more obscure stuff was pretty good. "Citizen Smith" is a good example. About a bunch of wannabe suburban communists. The "Tooting Popular Front".

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 06:34 PM (9gNQd)

201 IM THE YOUNGEST MORON HERE Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 10:19 PM (eQJwb) Not if HoboJerky shows up.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 08, 2013 06:34 PM (GEICT)

202 #61

The first TV I owned wasn't connected to the cable or even an antenna. It was just to serve as a display for my Atari 800 computer.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 08, 2013 06:34 PM (bPxS6)

203 Pot roast is done. And it is out fucking standing. Posted by: DC in Towson -------------------------------- Cut me just a little piece, please?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:35 PM (4Mv1T)

204 Patrick McGoohan was a great actor. Do you remember "Secret Agent". That was a great show too.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 10:33 PM (dCwZe)

"They've given you a number and taken away your name."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2013 06:35 PM (JivuR)

205 Lordy Lordy. Time for me to take my teeth out, swallow my Geritol and turn in with my hot water bottle. You young'uns don't stay up too late now and remember to put the cat out, hear?

Posted by: grammie winger at December 08, 2013 06:35 PM (P6QsQ)

206 [183] Is Julia even capable of hot spontaneous sex without calling Central Planning?

Posted by: redenzo at December 08, 2013 06:35 PM (SV01K)

207 Fenelon -The Barchester Chronicles? Interesting..., didn't know it existed. Presumably based on Trollopes series of novels, 'Barchester Towers',et al?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:35 PM (aDwsi)

208
NBC's 1983 Fall Preview of TV Shows
Man these sure sucked more than I remembered.

Compare and contrast:

In the 1983-84 season, you could watch Newhart, St. Elsewhere, Hillstreet Blues, Ripley's Believe it or Not and a number of other not bad shows.

In 2013 on the legacy networks, you get to watch hours and hours of wannabe divas and willowy effeminate men singing, and everything else is a "Evil White Male Republican" plot point of the week drama series.

http://tinyurl.com/my4pr5w

I choose 1983.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2013 06:35 PM (kdS6q)

209 83. I win. Again, Posted by: DC in Towson Dude, I got sweaters older than you.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 06:36 PM (dCwZe)

210 Yup.... so good Brian Seltzer even wrote a song about it.... LOL....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2013 10:28 PM (lZBBB)

OK Romeo13, I binged this and did not find a link to your reference. Why the LOL?

Posted by: tbodie at December 08, 2013 06:36 PM (6B4ha)

211 83. I win. Again, Posted by: DC in Towson ---------------------------------- I was 27 and getting laid more than you crapped in your pants. Now, about that pot roast?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:36 PM (4Mv1T)

212 208 Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2013 10:35 PM (kdS6q)

There are very pretty gems in the pap of 2013 but yeah I'd happily go back.

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:37 PM (9jfyN)

213 >>>Cut me just a little piece, please? *pours pot roast onto ipad* Seriously, my favorite comfort food. Meat, potatoes, carrots, onions, garlic...we also add mushrooms and tomatoes. The only thing missing is bacon. And scotch.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:37 PM (eQJwb)

214 This poster was taped to the inside of my closet door http://www.topositu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Farrah_Fawcett_Poster.jpg
Many a sock got soiled.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:37 PM (TI3xG)

215 Don't know why but I picture Alex the Chick as Emma Peel in a catsuit and BCochran as Steed with bowler hat, umbrella and Classic Bentley.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 06:37 PM (BLAfs)

216 Magnum began in 81 or 82. It took over for CBS' other Hawaiin drama: Hawaii Five-0.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 06:37 PM (ZCYJ1)

217 I mentioned in an earlier thread that I went to see a wonderful version of excerpts from Bach's Christmas Oratorio this afternoon. It was in a gorgeous church with beautiful stained glass windows which made it even nicer. I'm thinking of putting up selections from that on my formerly political signboard . If the weather cooperates I may out up: Great Lord and Mighty King, Beloved Savior, oh, how little thou dost esteem earthly pomp! God who maintains the whole world, and did create its ornament and splendor must sleep in a hard manger. That would probably take two sign boards. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:38 PM (BC6cY)

218 33 Yglesias is such an idiot. Urban walmarts will succeed because you can get stuff NOW, not 3 days later, and it'll be cheaper. Amazon's prices aren't any better than Walmart's and you gotta pay shipping costs as well, and you gotta wait days to get your shit, and you expose yourself to all manner of online hack chicanery. Chances of getting identity theived at WMT when forking over greenbacks? ZERO. Absolute FUCKING ZERO. Not everyone barricades themselves in their apartment 7x24 opening the door only for some UPS guy. Posted by: Purp at December 08, 2013 10:00 PM (UVadJ) Matty also opens the door up to service Fred Garvin, male prostitute, several times a week.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 06:38 PM (BXLPR)

219 Started the pot roast at 9pm last night, didn't eat it until 5pm today...

Posted by: phreshone at December 08, 2013 06:38 PM (Pr6hk)

220 Hawaii Five0 had a long run, like 69-80. There are over 200 episodes, all of them good.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 06:39 PM (ZCYJ1)

221 I was 27 and getting laid more than you crapped in your pants. Now, about that pot roast? Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 10:36 PM (4Mv1T) Doesn't matter to me. Time is non-linear to a Pain Elemental.

Posted by: Chzo at December 08, 2013 06:39 PM (ZyqBH)

222

Just about all of you guys could be my progeny.

That is, if I didn't step on you in the nest.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 08, 2013 06:39 PM (SAMxH)

223
There are very pretty gems in the pap of 2013...
Posted by: sven

In the current season of the networks that were around in the 80s? Name two, no cable nets allowed -- just NBC, CBS or ABC.

I see nuthin'.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2013 06:39 PM (kdS6q)

224 Fenelon - I have never seen the Forsyte Saga either, which I understand was quite good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:39 PM (aDwsi)

225 [expletive deleted]
In the USAToday Bush will fly on AF1 with Obama.

Posted by: In other words. at December 08, 2013 06:39 PM (hb9zc)

226 218 Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 10:38 PM (BXLPR)

or on occasion to punch a young man's fists with his face...

MattY lives a full life

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:39 PM (9jfyN)

227 You are Number Six.

I am not a number, I am a free Man!

"Be seeing you."

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2013 10:33 PM (UAMVq)

There was a Columbo episode that McGoohan directed called Identity Crisis that was a bit of a tip of the hat to the Prisoner. He's a secret agent in it and says Be seeing you a number of times in it. He didn't however have Rover nab Columbo and allow him to get away with murdering Leslie Nielsen

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2013 06:39 PM (JivuR)

228 Thanks for the pot roast DC.

Forget that part about me getting laid more than you crapped in your pants.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:39 PM (4Mv1T)

229 I need a humidifier,with the heat on my eyes and skin are dry. Does anyone have a preferred brand? Thank you!

Posted by: Carol at December 08, 2013 06:40 PM (z4WKX)

230 "They've given you a number and taken away your name." .... ahhh yes, Secret Asian Man

Posted by: Self-Elected Blog Police at December 08, 2013 06:40 PM (FlRtG)

231 OK Romeo13, I binged this and did not find a link to your reference. Why the LOL? Posted by: tbodie at December 08, 2013 10:36 PM (6B4ha) Brian Setzer.... of Stray Cats... (misspelled name is a Joke with my friends...)... song is " '59 "

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2013 06:40 PM (lZBBB)

232 223 Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2013 10:39 PM (kdS6q)

No I agree...

to find ANYTHING worthwhile now you have to sift through the cable networks...

good shows can be found but not on "Duh Big Three"

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:41 PM (9jfyN)

233 You youngans pipe down about your youth or us old Morons are gonna start asking your moms maiden name.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:41 PM (TI3xG)

234 [215] I was thinking of Angie Dickenson in "The Black Whip" [1956].

Posted by: redenzo at December 08, 2013 06:41 PM (SV01K)

235 >>>Dude, I got sweaters older than you. Shit, I've got sweaters older than me. But I don't wear sweaters.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:41 PM (eQJwb)

236

I personally think Michael Vick was railroaded in a PC witch hunt. He should have paid a fine but not been sent to jail. He is a black Paula Deen. She got a raw deal, also. Hey folks, we are still (nominally) the head of the food chain. It's time we started acting like it again.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 06:41 PM (btTLZ)

237 215 Don't know why but I picture Alex the Chick as Emma Peel in a catsuit and BCochran as Steed with bowler hat, umbrella and Classic Bentley. Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 10:37 PM (BLAfs) Like so? http://tinyurl.com/n8th5s6 Hell yes.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 08, 2013 06:42 PM (GEICT)

238 Introducing Tara King. Audio quality makes me think of Lucas Electric did it.

http://youtu.be/6Nenn8Vd6Mc

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:42 PM (5oAy6)

239 I need a humidifier,with the heat on my eyes and skin are dry. Does anyone have a preferred brand? Thank you! *** Nope. Sorry. He strive here to take that shit out of the air.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 06:42 PM (DmNpO)

240 all right the drool cup runneth over...

0415 comes early

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2013 06:42 PM (9jfyN)

241 Yet try telling the most mindless Obama worshipers that his presidency has almost entirely benefited concentrated interests.

You will be met with a blank stare. these are people incapable even of cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 06:42 PM (3qZbZ)

242 Leo McKern was in "The Prisoner" too wasn't he? We had some posts about him some time ago. I don't know about his politics and don't really care as I never knew about them, but he was such a fine, fine actor. Anyone who watched PBS recall him in "Rumpole of the Bailey"? Good stuff.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:42 PM (BC6cY)

243 I personally think Michael Vick was railroaded in a PC witch hunt. He should have paid a fine but not been sent to jail. He is a black Paula Deen. She got a raw deal, also. Hey folks, we are still (nominally) the head of the food chain. It's time we started acting like it again. *** I hope you're just screwing with us.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 06:43 PM (DmNpO)

244 #218, I don't get how Yglesias thinks Amazon is going to replace all retail. People like to be able to pick up a product immediately and look at it in person. There's no tactile inspection or immediate gratification with online catalog shopping even with overnight or drone/courier same day delivery. Does he think super drone takeout will ever replace sit-down restaurants? Never going to happen. Hell even with 3D printing stores will still exist for various sociological, economic, and downright practical reasons.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at December 08, 2013 06:43 PM (KCvsd)

245

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2013 10:39 PM (kdS6q)

ABC: The Middle, Back in The Game, Moonlighting 2.0 aka Castle

NBC: Grimm, Hannibal, Dracula, The Blacklist

no idea about CBS as I don't watch the channel and hate Big Bang Theory

Posted by: The Dude at December 08, 2013 06:43 PM (vJdyz)

246 Benny Hill Archie's Angels Dear Lord that man was funny, he would have been hung by his toes if tried his show today. http://youtu.be/wcB6gwInny0

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 08, 2013 06:44 PM (b6koZ)

247 A little factoid people don't realize about Medicaid. Wait until people who are getting pushed onto the welfare program Medicaid, especially those who wouldn't normally qualify, get a clue about the 1993 Medicaid Estate Recovery Program Act that applies to Obamacare. People who go onto Medicaid and/or receive a "subsidy," which is welfare Medicaid money, are actually creating debit for themselves and by federal mandate, signed by Clinton, States are required to seize any assets you possess/own upon your death to pay back your debt.

Posted by: halodoc at December 08, 2013 06:44 PM (Fzbp3)

248 Found it, thanks.

Posted by: tbodie at December 08, 2013 06:44 PM (6B4ha)

249 Magnum PI ran from 1980 to 1988. I remember toward the end Tom Selleck thought the show was getting stale, and had the one season ender where he was shot and supposed to die. He did one more season, and re-upped in the Navy, and adopted Michele's orphaned child (was it ...his??). And Colonel Buck Green. His "nemesis". Book 'em, Danno!

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 06:44 PM (dCwZe)

250 Hah snap! I remember that R/T PS tire blurb from real time back in the day. Still quote it when I see some dumbass off of the road or in a single car accident. See a lot of that in south FL...

Posted by: Bad Lt. Cmdr. at December 08, 2013 06:44 PM (3u6md)

251 I need a humidifier,with the heat on my eyes and skin are dry. Does anyone have a preferred brand? Thank you! Posted by: Carol ----------------- Our Holmes has worked for 5 years, with no problem. FWIW. They make a bunch of models. Larger tank = better.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:45 PM (aDwsi)

252

NDH--don't you recognize trolling anymore?

Posted by: irongrampa at December 08, 2013 06:45 PM (SAMxH)

253 [236] Fuck you. A dog and his loyalty have no defense against a sick perp. Clean your shit up, won't you.

Posted by: redenzo at December 08, 2013 06:45 PM (SV01K)

254 146 135 Fawlty Towers ran in the late 70s but it was still funny in the 80s.
Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 10:22 PM (BLAfs)

Great show. I still crack up thinking of "No! Is HHHamster!" and that time that Basil managed to punch Manuel remotely by using the telephone and a peevish ginger contractor.

Posted by: Splunge at December 08, 2013 06:45 PM (bKA83)

255 >>>Forget that part about me getting laid more than you crapped in your pants. Bless your heart. Care for a glass of warm milk before bed, gramps?

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:45 PM (eQJwb)

256 My current viewing habits include football, Fox News, Adult Swim, The Voice, South Park and, recently, thanks to On-Demand, I've become a huge fan of The Good Wife, Masters of Sex, and House of Lies. More recently, I've started watching Homeland and it's growing on me as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 06:46 PM (DmNpO)

257 Bless your heart. Care for a glass of warm milk before bed, gramps?

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 10:45 PM (eQJwb)

they don't drink milk, they eat prunes

Posted by: The Dude at December 08, 2013 06:46 PM (vJdyz)

258 Bless your heart. Care for a glass of warm milk before bed, gramps? Posted by: DC in Towson ---------------------------- Careful. I might accidentally crap on your sofa.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:46 PM (4Mv1T)

259 Ted Cruz is traitor and has been scratched off my list for praising Mandela. That vile man was an aredent Communist and Cruz knows this. Ted Cruz has sold his soul unlike Mrs. Palin who stays true to Conservative principles.

Posted by: In love with Palin at December 08, 2013 06:46 PM (IbmNO)

260 >>>Careful. I might accidentally crap on your sofa. Meh. You wouldn't be the first. Might be the first "accidental" though.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:47 PM (eQJwb)

261 NDH--don't you recognize trolling anymore? **** I can't imagine such wicked justification coming from a fellow moron.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 06:47 PM (DmNpO)

262 ALH is not a troll. Perhaps she can clarify?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:48 PM (4Mv1T)

263 242 Leo McKern was in "The Prisoner" too wasn't he? We had some posts about him some time ago. I don't know about his politics and don't really care as I never knew about them, but he was such a fine, fine actor. Anyone who watched PBS recall him in "Rumpole of the Bailey"? Good stuff. I do believe he was. And yes he was a great actor. I think Number 6 from The Prisoner and the secret agent were the same man.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 06:48 PM (BLAfs)

264 I'm sorry, but is everyone is taken off the list for not being perfect, we will have NO candidates to run in 2016.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:48 PM (BC6cY)

265 Meh. You wouldn't be the first. Might be the first "accidental" though. Posted by: DC in Towson --------------------------- THAT made me LOL.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 06:49 PM (4Mv1T)

266 >>>I can't imagine such wicked justification coming from a fellow moron. I'm not around enough anymore, but I think ALH is a solid moron. Disagree about the Vick thing, but I'm calling no troll on this.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 06:49 PM (eQJwb)

267 Benny Hill's Number 1 hit single: Ernie, the Fastest Milkman in the West http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e1xvyTdBZI

Posted by: The Milkman's Hat at December 08, 2013 06:50 PM (Vk2pI)

268 Ted Cruz is traitor and has been scratched off my list for praising Mandela. That vile man was an aredent Communist and Cruz knows this. Ted Cruz has sold his soul unlike Mrs. Palin who stays true to Conservative principles.

Posted by: In love with Palin at December 08, 2013 10:46 PM (IbmNO)

This is some really weak trolling.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 06:50 PM (3qZbZ)

269 Amazon is going to replace all retail. People like to be able to pick up a product immediately and look at it in person. There's no tactile inspection or immediate gratification with online catalog shopping even with overnight or drone/courier same day delivery. >>

I live in the country so I really like the Amazon prime service for maybe 30% of my shopping. But most times the Sunday ads beat the amazon price and for a couple bucks I'll buy stuff at the store for convenience/intermediate gratification. The drone thing is only gonna be a 1 percenter toy in big cities.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:50 PM (TI3xG)

270 ISTR that George Bush is very, very popular in Africa. His AIDS program meant a lot to the entire continent. pbho not so much. So Bush going over and being treated like a rock star, while our narcissistic current President being tolerated will deflate pbho's ego, just before pbho's sactimonious anger starts.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 08, 2013 06:50 PM (u82oZ)

271 Impeach him for what?: http://tinyurl.com/klyzw4k

Posted by: DAve at December 08, 2013 06:50 PM (b7yum)

272 I get the nagging suspicion that IbmNo just might be a moby.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:51 PM (5oAy6)

273 Regardless of what you think of Vick's horrendous treatment of dogs, he went to jail for 1) illegal gambling 2) his relationship with organized crime. I have no idea why the NFL let him back in. I think Tiger Woods is a funny, if foolish horn dog. Michael Vick is a loathsome person.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 06:51 PM (dCwZe)

274 The guy who played Manuel was an English actor and in the episode where Manuel gets set on fire he really did get badly burned. I heard John Cleese speaking of it in an interview. Brits are often better than American actors at doing accents except for American accents which they often have a hard time with, but the English actor from "House" did a fine job, I thought.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:51 PM (BC6cY)

275

Ted Cruz is traitor and has been scratched off my
list for praising Mandela. That vile man was an aredent Communist and
Cruz knows this. Ted Cruz has sold his soul unlike Mrs. Palin who stays
true to Conservative principles.

Posted by: In love with Palin at December 08, 2013 10:46 PM (IbmNO)

I am concerned that Ted is not concerned about this as well.

Posted by: tbodie at December 08, 2013 06:53 PM (6B4ha)

276 I have no idea why the NFL let him back in. **** $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 06:53 PM (DmNpO)

277
Leo McKern was in "The Prisoner" too wasn't he?
Posted by: Northernlurker,

He was one of the Number 2's running The Village. As I recall, there were a series of Number 2s, since they were removed when they each ultimately failed to break Number 6.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2013 06:54 PM (kdS6q)

278 268 This is some really weak trolling.

True, but look at the good side: they must be running out of money, because they've had to outsource trolling to some place where English is not the first language.

Posted by: Splunge at December 08, 2013 06:54 PM (bKA83)

279 NaCly Dog, wonder what it would take to get a petition to circulate in Africa for them to select George Bush as their AIDS spokesman.

So many prog-soc zipper heads would explode...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 06:55 PM (5oAy6)

280 Thanks Maet for more dissertation fodder in that cracked article. As for Yglesias, meh, whatever. Liberals are amazed that people aren't as redneck as they think I'm not a huge fan of Walmart, the closet one to me is right next to a target and I prefer that. For some reason the lighting in Walmart is a bit harsh. And I find what I buy there lacks durability. But I'm not anti Walmart by any stretch, I shop at Sam's all the time.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at December 08, 2013 06:55 PM (GaqMa)

281 #274

A more recent role for Andrew 'Manuel' Sachs was in the TV movie of Terry Pratchett's 'Going Postal.' I was really hoping they'd keep some of the cast for the following book, 'Making Money.'

Very funny. I don't know if Netflix or Hulu has it but torrents are another venue.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 08, 2013 06:56 PM (bPxS6)

282 The Wal-Mart video was awesome.

Posted by: rickl at December 08, 2013 06:56 PM (sdi6R)

283 This is unkind, but I would love for the positive reaction to Bush to upstage Obama in SA simply because Bush is a more compassionate man. The networks wouldn't report that though.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 06:57 PM (BC6cY)

284 Most guys posting here remember the 80s as their childhood. What a gag. You didn't even have muscle cars your whole lives. What was your point of living?

Posted by: Corona at December 08, 2013 06:57 PM (fh2Y7)

285

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 06:58 PM (T1005)

286

I'm not a troll. I am just tired of being smacked upside the head with Politically Correct everywhere I go. Michael Vick mistreated his animals, I understand. He goes to jail for that and people who murder their children via abortion are celebrated as exercising their rights. The TSA frisks old people in wheelchairs and NASA is now involved with outreach to Muslims. I am not now, nor do I ever plan on being Politically Correct.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 06:58 PM (btTLZ)

287 283 This is unkind, but I would love for the positive reaction to Bush to upstage Obama in SA simply because Bush is a more compassionate man. The networks wouldn't report that though. You, unkind? Pshaw!

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 08, 2013 06:58 PM (BLAfs)

288 I thought I'd purged that sock.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 06:58 PM (T1005)

289 Seems like I should have exorcised it.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 06:58 PM (T1005)

290

141 Patrick/ohio

Dave Allen at large.

Posted by: seamrog at December 08, 2013 06:59 PM (+cBx8)

291 Ted Cruz is traitor and has been scratched off my list for praising Mandela.>>

Pick your fights. Mandela can be praised for things that he should be praised for. No point in bringing up the bad since it will not be heard. Politics.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 06:59 PM (TI3xG)

292 That Walmart the Brits were running around in looked an awful lot like the 24 hour Supercenter I was in last night but the limited view of the exterior didn't show nearly enough to say for sure. But the fact it was in LA County and 24 hour narrows it down.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 08, 2013 06:59 PM (bPxS6)

293 I'm not a troll. I am just tired of being smacked upside the head with Politically Correct everywhere I go. Michael Vick mistreated his animals, I understand. He goes to jail for that and people who murder their children via abortion are celebrated as exercising their rights. The TSA frisks old people in wheelchairs and NASA is now involved with outreach to Muslims. I am not now, nor do I ever plan on being Politically Correct. *** Being a decent human being and showing compassion for a lesser creature is NOT political correctness.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 06:59 PM (DmNpO)

294 FenelonSpoke - This morning at church, second entry : http://images.acswebnetworks.com/1/2576/JotTittleDecember2013forweb.pdf A lovely service

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 06:59 PM (aDwsi)

295 ALH- Well said.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 07:00 PM (4Mv1T)

296 George Chen ‏@george_chen 13m This is not joke. This is real. China's official Global Times: Smog is good for defense as foreign missles can't aim http://t.co/hjMpkbbc6h

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 07:01 PM (DmNpO)

297 Most guys posting here remember the 80s as their childhood. What a gag. You didn't even have muscle cars your whole lives. What was your point of living? Posted by: Corona --------------------------- Heh. I wonder how many are going to look back on that 1986 Civic as a sweet ride?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 07:01 PM (aDwsi)

298 Pick your fights. Mandela can be praised for things that he should be praised for. No point in bringing up the bad since it will not be heard. Politics. Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 10:59 PM (TI3xG) I should have gotten his P.R. AgentÂ…

Posted by: Pol Pot, Community Organizer at December 08, 2013 07:02 PM (Vk2pI)

299 247 A little factoid people don't realize about Medicaid. Wait until people who are getting pushed onto the welfare program Medicaid, especially those who wouldn't normally qualify, get a clue about the 1993 Medicaid Estate Recovery Program Act that applies to Obamacare. People who go onto Medicaid and/or receive a "subsidy," which is welfare Medicaid money, are actually creating debit for themselves and by federal mandate, signed by Clinton, States are required to seize any assets you possess/own upon your death to pay back your debt. Posted by: halodoc at December 08, 2013 10:44 PM (Fzbp3) Don't know why this would be a problem. They get a benefit, they should pay for it. Or am I supposed to pay for someone else, again?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 07:03 PM (BXLPR)

300
People born in 1983 who have already managed to dead themselves:

AMY WINEHOUSE (1983-2011)

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2013 07:03 PM (kdS6q)

301 Most guys posting here remember the 80s as their childhood. What a gag. You didn't even have muscle cars your whole lives. What was your point of living?

Posted by: Corona at December 08, 2013 10:57 PM (fh2Y7)

the Grand National was close though?

Posted by: The Dude at December 08, 2013 07:03 PM (vJdyz)

302 NDH, Chen sounds about as smart as Dr. Chu.

Oh wow this is nifty. When Shaw Brothers teamed up with Hammer. Legend of the Seven Golden Vampires. Dracula, Van Helsing, and kung fu! This is the whole movie it looks like.

http://youtu.be/Epx4eElcQgc

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 07:04 PM (5oAy6)

303 @ 286 ALH

You could have said that right off. Nobody would have argued with that statement.

FWIW, you have my apology for jumping on you.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 08, 2013 07:04 PM (SAMxH)

304 C'mon. The 80's relaunched William Shatner's career. That's right, I said it. T.J. Hooker. With what's-her-butt, and the wimpy douche.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2013 07:04 PM (Fa3Hi)

305 Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 11:01 PM (aDwsi) /looks at the Camaro in his driveway... Yeah... some of us 'remember' muscle cars...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2013 07:04 PM (lZBBB)

306 Airwolf- back then I thought was the hottest man alive. Couple of weeks back, one of the channels started to show Airwolf again (can't remember which channel). I'm like, jeez, what a corny show and what a lame actor

Posted by: Ma Bell at December 08, 2013 07:04 PM (RLdcX)

307 Most guys posting here remember the 80s as their childhood. What a gag. You didn't even have muscle cars your whole lives. What was your point of living?>>
That was a lucky coincidence in my life. Being 18 in 1981 we had the best pick of 10 year old muscle cars nobody cared about. The downside was we just used and abused that privilege. It was fucking fun while it lasted though.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 07:04 PM (TI3xG)

308 Heather Locklear?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 07:05 PM (5oAy6)

309 Most guys posting here remember the 80s as their childhood. What a gag. You didn't even have muscle cars your whole lives. What was your point of living? Posted by: Corona at December 08, 2013 10:57 PM (fh2Y7) Of course I had muscle cars around my whole life. I had them because other folks junked them. Allowing people like me and my dad and my grandfather to buy them cheap and fix em up.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 08, 2013 07:05 PM (GEICT)

310 80s shows Not many good ones Was Night Court in the 80s? Harry Anderson was a very funny judge Agree early Letterman was good - he really has become a bitter pervert Carson was still on - he is missed ESPN ran Aussie Rules football ("footie") - miss that

Posted by: My Name is Nobody at December 08, 2013 07:05 PM (5Q1ZU)

311 >>>Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 10:58 PM I agree with everything you said. But Vick wasn't burned by the PC mob, he tortured animals. Normal humans are disgusted by that, and defending him is a hopeless cause.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 07:06 PM (eQJwb)

312 I should have gotten his P.R. AgentÂ… Posted by: Pol Pot, Community Organizer at>>

Yes the fucking weeklong love fest we are living through.

Explain what Cruz would gain telling the truth?

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 07:07 PM (TI3xG)

313 What a lovely selection for you music program, Mike Hammer. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 07:07 PM (BC6cY)

314 >>>FWIW, you have my apology for jumping on you. Thereby solidifying his claim on the title of Best Moron Ever.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 07:07 PM (eQJwb)

315 284 Most guys posting here remember the 80s as their childhood. What a gag. You didn't even have muscle cars your whole lives. What was your point of living? Posted by: Corona at December 08, 2013 10:57 PM (fh2Y7) Part of the 80's I was in college, and part I was working. The muscle cars we had were from the 60's, but the Dems decided that performance cars were teh evil, so the American manufacturers did away with them. Along come the foreign manufacturers with "sportier" cars, and the US manufacturers responding with cars like the K-Car.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 07:09 PM (BXLPR)

316 218 33 Yglesias is such an idiot. Urban walmarts will succeed because you can get stuff NOW, not 3 days later, and it'll be cheaper.

Amazon's prices aren't any better than Walmart's and you gotta pay shipping costs as well, and you gotta wait days to get your shit, and you expose yourself to all manner of online hack chicanery. Chances of getting identity theived at WMT when forking over greenbacks? ZERO. Absolute FUCKING ZERO.

Not everyone barricades themselves in their apartment 7x24 opening the door only for some UPS guy.
Posted by: Purp at December 08, 2013 10:00 PM (UVadJ)

Matty also opens the door up to service Fred Garvin, male prostitute, several times a week.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 10:38 PM (BXLPR)

I actually just bought a 47" TV from WalMart. No shipping cost, and it arrived at my house in one piece.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 07:09 PM (T1005)

317 the Grand National was close though? ------------------ The Buick? Not bad..., not bad. Still..., a turbo six. What do I think of?, Pontiac GP 2+2, 421

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 07:09 PM (aDwsi)

318

Thanks, Tobacco Road. On a lighter note, I hit the jackpot in November and found a cash buyer for my house. We moved into DH's rancher in the countryside. It's only 2.75 miles from Wal-Mart, where all the Rednecks in the county shop, but I consider it to be in the country because this house is on a septic tank. My criteria for living in a proper town is when your house is connected to a sewer.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 07:10 PM (btTLZ)

319 311 >>>Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 10:58 PM

I agree with everything you said. But Vick wasn't burned by the PC mob, he tortured animals. Normal humans are disgusted by that, and defending him is a hopeless cause.
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 11:06 PM (eQJwb)

Animal cruelty is rightfully looked down upon - political correctness or not. Don't let reflexive anti-PCness lead to defending the indefensible.

[Also quietly scratches ALH off the possible pet sitter list for the holidays]

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 08, 2013 07:10 PM (XkotV)

320 I am upset that US flags are at half mast for Nelson Mandela. The US flags should only be at half mast for things like September 11, 2001 and former US Presidents that have passed on.

Posted by: Carol at December 08, 2013 07:11 PM (z4WKX)

321 Or am I supposed to pay for someone else, again?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 11:03 PM (BXLPR)

If you make your living in the private sector then of course the answer is yes.

Posted by: The Welfare State at December 08, 2013 07:12 PM (3qZbZ)

322 The muscle cars we had were from the 60's, but the Dems decided that performance cars were teh evil, so the American manufacturers did away with them. Along come the foreign manufacturers with "sportier" cars, and the US manufacturers responding with cars like the K-Car.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 11:09 PM (BXLPR)

Those were dark days.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2013 07:12 PM (FMbng)

323 This is one of those weeks I'm glad that I don't have a functional T.V. I have completely missed the Mandela hoopla except for what was posted here. I agree with Chique d' Afrique who commented on both the positives and negatives of Mandela. I am praying for that country. Good night everyone and God bless. I've done my best tonight to try to once again get into the weekly top posters. but it was nice chatting with you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2013 07:13 PM (BC6cY)

324 Heh. I wonder how many are going to look back on that 1986 Civic as a sweet ride?>>

Different kind of memories than my 1970 Buick GS 350 or 1970 GTO Judge. But 4 wheelin down logging trails in a 1975 Honda civic that burned completely up (just scrap and melted glass) is great in a different way.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 07:13 PM (TI3xG)

325 307! What a coincidence that I happpened in right as you commented that, since I'm exactly the same age. Almost. Close enough. We have the same shit going on. 'cept, being a girl and all, not really there about the cars. Love, I have, but no knowledge

Anyhoo, oh fuck, now I forgot. Par for the course. I had sumpin to say. Gosh darn it. Some moron remind me.

Posted by: kalneva at December 08, 2013 07:13 PM (XyrkB)

326 Ok, goodnight, weirdos what live in my iPad. It's been fun.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 08, 2013 07:14 PM (eQJwb)

327 Most guys posting here remember the 80s as their
childhood. What a gag. You didn't even have muscle cars your whole
lives. What was your point of living?

Posted by: Corona at December 08, 2013 10:57 PM (fh2Y7)

the Grand National was close though?
Posted by: The Dude

VW Sandrail count?

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2013 07:14 PM (pxx5O)

328 Airwolf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLFqeXm_5X4 Ma Bell, funny I was just thinking how much I used to like that show, but yeah, Jan-Michael Vincent was a little lame. The 80's? Miami Vice??

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 07:15 PM (dCwZe)

329 @ 320

Carol, in a country led by Americans,instead of just people living here, that would be the norm.

Instead we have what we have--for now.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 08, 2013 07:15 PM (SAMxH)

330 I meant to link this this morning, but forgot. Karl Denninger delivering an epic smackdown on Pope Francis' ignorant anti-capitalist rant: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=226551

Posted by: rickl at December 08, 2013 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

331 I must have been in a coma in 1983. I don't remember any of those shows.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 07:17 PM (GRLuN)

332 night DC. Thanks for the pot roast. Sorry about the sofa.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 07:17 PM (4Mv1T)

333 [Also quietly scratches ALH off the possible pet sitter list for the holidays]

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at December 08, 2013 11:10 PM (XkotV)

I always had dogs when the kids were small. I have since upgraded to a cat.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 07:17 PM (btTLZ)

334 The US flags should only be at half mast for things like September 11, 2001 and former US Presidents that have passed on.

Posted by: Carol at December 08, 2013 11:11 PM (z4WKX)

During obama's stint it should be at half ass.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2013 07:17 PM (FMbng)

335 Oh, now I remember. Flag half-staff for 10 days for Nelson Mandela. Hmm. How many for Lady Thatcher? None? And who went to her funeral? Hmm? Such bullshit.

Posted by: kalneva at December 08, 2013 07:17 PM (XyrkB)

336 VW Sandrail count?

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2013 11:14 PM (pxx5O)

if you're gonna go with dune buggies, they peaked in the late 60's and the 70's

Posted by: The Dude at December 08, 2013 07:18 PM (vJdyz)

337 I'm out of bourbon. This is a crisis.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 08, 2013 07:18 PM (lr3d7)

338 The 80's? Miami Vice?? *** A couple of times a month I on-demand Miami Vice. I might like it better now than I did then, although I really wish they would restore the film. They vibrant colors are very faded.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 07:19 PM (DmNpO)

339 The 80's? Miami Vice?? *** A couple of times a month I on-demand Miami Vice. I might like it better now than I did then, although I really wish they would restore the film. They vibrant colors are very faded.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 07:19 PM (DmNpO)

340 The 80's? Miami Vice?? *** A couple of times a month I on-demand Miami Vice. I might like it better now than I did then, although I really wish they would restore the film. They vibrant colors are very faded.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 07:19 PM (DmNpO)

341 if you're gonna go with dune buggies, they peaked in the late 60's and the 70's Posted by: The Dude ---------------------------- That is correct. And you are standing on his lawn.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 07:19 PM (4Mv1T)

342 if you're gonna go with dune buggies, they peaked in the late 60's and the 70's Posted by: The Dude ---------------------------- That is correct. And you are standing on his lawn.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 07:19 PM (4Mv1T)

343 if you're gonna go with dune buggies, they peaked in the late 60's and the 70's Posted by: The Dude ---------------------------- That is correct. And you are standing on his lawn.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 07:19 PM (4Mv1T)

344 How could I have forgotten this when that roving city was posted in the side-bar. Robot Carnival opening and ending.
http://youtu.be/CNIUwBp7Zt0

Think this would be how the Horde would design it...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (5oAy6)

345 How could I have forgotten this when that roving city was posted in the side-bar. Robot Carnival opening and ending.
http://youtu.be/CNIUwBp7Zt0

Think this would be how the Horde would design it...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (5oAy6)

346 How could I have forgotten this when that roving city was posted in the side-bar. Robot Carnival opening and ending.
http://youtu.be/CNIUwBp7Zt0

Think this would be how the Horde would design it...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (5oAy6)

347 I'm out of bourbon. This is a crisis. Posted by: Colorado Alex ----------------------------- And I'm out of scotch. I'm going to bed once I sober up and realize I'm bored.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (4Mv1T)

348 I'm out of bourbon. This is a crisis. Posted by: Colorado Alex ----------------------------- And I'm out of scotch. I'm going to bed once I sober up and realize I'm bored.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (4Mv1T)

349 I'm out of bourbon. This is a crisis. Posted by: Colorado Alex ----------------------------- And I'm out of scotch. I'm going to bed once I sober up and realize I'm bored.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (4Mv1T)

350 WTFIP?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (rDidD)

351 WTFIP?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (rDidD)

352 WTFIP?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (rDidD)

353

320 I am upset that US flags are at half mast for Nelson Mandela.

The US flags should only be at half mast for things like September 11, 2001 and former US Presidents that have passed on.

Amen! I also want to know why MLK has a day, even though he was never elected to anything. We get that day off at work, but not Washington's birthday.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (btTLZ)

354

320 I am upset that US flags are at half mast for Nelson Mandela.

The US flags should only be at half mast for things like September 11, 2001 and former US Presidents that have passed on.

Amen! I also want to know why MLK has a day, even though he was never elected to anything. We get that day off at work, but not Washington's birthday.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (btTLZ)

355

320 I am upset that US flags are at half mast for Nelson Mandela.

The US flags should only be at half mast for things like September 11, 2001 and former US Presidents that have passed on.

Amen! I also want to know why MLK has a day, even though he was never elected to anything. We get that day off at work, but not Washington's birthday.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 07:20 PM (btTLZ)

356 You know, this Brees fellow isn't half bad.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (DmNpO)

357 You know, this Brees fellow isn't half bad.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (DmNpO)

358 You know, this Brees fellow isn't half bad.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (DmNpO)

359 I frankly have no strong feelings for Mandela one way or another. History gets airbrushed all the time. I saw a pic of him the other day palling around with Khaddafi. What would Hillary! say? But I am not flying MY flag at half mast. I also don't think Ted Cruz has anything to gain at this point trying to educate the country LIV's on Mandela. This is like going on and on about abortion. This would just be fodder to be used against him, regardless of the "truth". He's dead, Jim.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (dCwZe)

360 I frankly have no strong feelings for Mandela one way or another. History gets airbrushed all the time. I saw a pic of him the other day palling around with Khaddafi. What would Hillary! say? But I am not flying MY flag at half mast. I also don't think Ted Cruz has anything to gain at this point trying to educate the country LIV's on Mandela. This is like going on and on about abortion. This would just be fodder to be used against him, regardless of the "truth". He's dead, Jim.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (dCwZe)

361 I frankly have no strong feelings for Mandela one way or another. History gets airbrushed all the time. I saw a pic of him the other day palling around with Khaddafi. What would Hillary! say? But I am not flying MY flag at half mast. I also don't think Ted Cruz has anything to gain at this point trying to educate the country LIV's on Mandela. This is like going on and on about abortion. This would just be fodder to be used against him, regardless of the "truth". He's dead, Jim.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (dCwZe)

362 Well, time for bed. I tard.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (btTLZ)

363 Well, time for bed. I tard.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (btTLZ)

364 Well, time for bed. I tard.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (btTLZ)

365 I am not

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (2aCBB)

366 I am not

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (2aCBB)

367 I am not

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 07:21 PM (2aCBB)

368 in a top ten

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 07:22 PM (2aCBB)

369 WTFIP? Posted by: yankeefifth ------------------------- Freezing her skinny little tush off. 39 tonight.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 07:22 PM (4Mv1T)

370 Someone should buy up miami vice and hide it somewhere so no one is ever able to watch it ever at any time again.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 08, 2013 07:23 PM (rDidD)

371 Off to bed. Must be up early tomorrow to help construct a mock Bethlehem village. Hoping the sheep don't escape this year. Then..., there was the year the donkey got out of the stable.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 08, 2013 07:23 PM (aDwsi)

372 list last week, but...

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 07:23 PM (2aCBB)

373 'night, Hammer. Sounds like the sheep are nervous. Make of that what you will. I'm out also.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 08, 2013 07:24 PM (4Mv1T)

374 Someone should buy up miami vice and hide it somewhere so no one is ever able to watch it ever at any time again. *** I enjoy it and particularly like spotting then-unknowns like Al Bundy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 07:24 PM (DmNpO)

375 Posted by: kalneva at December 08, 2013 11:17 PM (XyrkB) Obama can pretty much kiss my ass on that one... NOT gonna fly my flag at half mast for someone who was not even an American... or Ally of America.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2013 07:25 PM (lZBBB)

376 Freezing her skinny little tush off. 39 tonight. Posted by: Tobacco Road Hey, you got that, you cold be my new best ever friend. It is not gonna take long to freeze her tiny, and I assume cute, derriere right off.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 08, 2013 07:25 PM (rDidD)

377 North Carolina. Where men are men, and sheep are nervous.

And that's a joke, son. I say, that's a joke.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 07:25 PM (dCwZe)

378 if you're gonna go with dune buggies, they peaked in the late 60's and the 70's>>

Probably not a real sand rail. But a buddy of mine had a 460 Ford car (no idea what model or year just 460). No body but rollbars.Man we had fun with that cheap piece of shit.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 07:25 PM (TI3xG)

379 While its nice Seymore Hersh is taking a piece out of Obama's ass ... I still hate him with a white hot fury.

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2013 07:26 PM (pxx5O)

380 I enjoy it and particularly like spotting then-unknowns like Al Bundy. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, I would like to like it but after you get past the opening song it is plain old awful. married with children has aged comparatively well.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 08, 2013 07:26 PM (rDidD)

381 I enjoy it and particularly like spotting then-unknowns like Al Bundy. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 11:24 PM (DmNpO) Wayne's World

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 08, 2013 07:26 PM (GEICT)

382 Good Night. I told off the GOP Saturday afternoon, I posted it in ONT at 3:05 am. I hate to ask but my younger brother needs prayers again and or still. The rehab called me Friday am after 5 to tell me he could not breathe. I know his ex & kids went to see him lam s weekend & he was bloated, I think it was with fluid. He called me late Friday to say he thought he was going to die. This started on March 30 and I would not want to live the rest of my life helpless to even wipe myself. I hadnÂ’t asked that question. His son did. Please pray for Paul, again! Thank you. Carol

Posted by: Carol at December 08, 2013 07:27 PM (z4WKX)

383
   It physically nauseates me to see what is being wrought in my country these past years.

But know this--the precepts she was founded on are still bright beneath the slime.

We will be as great again. You cannot put that genie back in the bottle.

I may not live to see her resurgence and you young ones may perhaps witness it in the fullness of your years.

   But it WILL come.

    Knowing this, you MUST, in whatever way open to you, work to see it happen.

    I'm as sure of this as the sun rising, because all of you here are Americans.

    It's who we are.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 08, 2013 07:28 PM (SAMxH)

384 I enjoy it and particularly like spotting then-unknowns like Al Bundy. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse Tom Selleck appeared occasionally as "Lance White, Private Detective" on the Rockford Files years before Magnum, PI. Ted Danson appeared once on Magnum PI before his days on "Cheers". Carol Burnett and Frank Sinatra were on Magnum too.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at December 08, 2013 07:28 PM (dCwZe)

385 Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at December 08, 2013 11:10 PM (XkotV) I guess I'm off too? Damnable and I just had my tools cleaned and my SleepAway mixed up. :sigh:

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 08, 2013 07:29 PM (GaqMa)

386 I enjoy it and particularly like spotting then-unknowns like Al Bundy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 11:24 PM

Christopher Walken's "Dogs of War".

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 07:29 PM (9gNQd)

387 The 80's ... quality television ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaHiDQVk88M "Some Walk By Night" - Al Jarreau ... remember?

Posted by: Self-Elected Blog Police at December 08, 2013 07:29 PM (FlRtG)

388 I would like to like it but after you get past the opening song it is plain old awful. married with children has aged comparatively well. *** I think it's TBS that runs back-to-back episodes of MWC during the week. I can't remember which night but, when it's on, I watch it while I'm trying to fall asleep.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 07:29 PM (DmNpO)

389 I actually just bought a 47" TV from WalMart. No shipping cost, and it arrived at my house in one piece. Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 11:09 PM (T1005) Funny how those guys want to sell you things; it's almost like they are organized to do so. For how bad the left thinks that WalMart treats their employees, I have never run across an employee who looks unhappy. When I go to my local union shop Kroger, the difference is striking. None of the employees are happy or even friendly, except for the high school kids and the retirees that work there part time.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 07:30 PM (BXLPR)

390 Please pray for Paul, again! Thank you. Carol Posted by: Carol at December 08, 2013 11:27 PM (z4WKX) Thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 08, 2013 07:30 PM (Vk2pI)

391 I am so sorry, Carol. Prayers sent.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 08, 2013 07:30 PM (KpRYi)

392 Not sure if this is anything: carolynryan ‏@carolynryan 3h

There's a very unusual, groundbreaking NYT story coming 2nite.I can't say too much but it'll make u rethink- well, I should stop.Stay tuned
Expand https://twitter.com/carolynryan

Posted by: Baldy at December 08, 2013 07:31 PM (2bql3)

393 Late to the party as usual, but for any of those still here who were discussing what years they were in school or graduated, I finished high school in 1953.

Posted by: Grand Mimi at December 08, 2013 07:31 PM (u5LFV)

394 Please pray for Paul, again!>>

Done.

Paul May your strength and health come back.
In Jesus name Amen.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 07:31 PM (TI3xG)

395 Scroll down to Guest Appearances http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Vice

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 08, 2013 07:31 PM (DmNpO)

396 I like 80s television. Get off my lawn.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 08, 2013 07:31 PM (RZ8pf)

397 OT. I am having the worst time figuring out what to get my kids and their spouses. Everyone has everything, nowadays, and I hate giving lame presents. Here was my idea: My Favorite Things. Like the bench scraper, the turner, the stainless steel bowl, the soap, the socks, the micro-plane, etc. Just lots of small things that I love, and think everyone else would, too. Hubby would add man-things. Is that a good idea? I would bundle it together in a cool bucket of some sort, based on their individual interests.

Posted by: kalneva at December 08, 2013 07:31 PM (XyrkB)

398 Late to the party as usual, but for any of those still here who were discussing what years they were in school or graduated, I finished high school in 1953.

Posted by: Grand Mimi at December 08, 2013 11:31 PM (u5LFV)

good Lord, you could be my grandpa

Posted by: The Dude at December 08, 2013 07:32 PM (vJdyz)

399 Married with Children is a big exception for 80's tv. That wasn't just good for the 80's, it's just plain good.

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 07:33 PM (9gNQd)

400 I just watched a couple of episodes of The Monkees today on the TV land channel or some channel that shows old tv shows.. Brought back good childhood memories.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 08, 2013 07:34 PM (3aj5/)

401 377 Easy. AAA memberships. Everybody loves having roadside assistance available

Posted by: DAve at December 08, 2013 07:35 PM (b7yum)

402 I'm as sure of this as the sun rising, because all of you here are Americans. It's who we are. Posted by: irongrampa Well said. The Spirit of 76 has inspired folks around the world. May it re-inflame its home.

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 07:35 PM (rY8rX)

403 *bangs face into keyboard*

Time to go to bead or preferably write. Just found the live action Ogenki Clinic on YouTube.

Bran bleach stat!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 07:35 PM (5oAy6)

404 324 Heh. I wonder how many are going to look back on that 1986 Civic as a sweet ride?>> Different kind of memories than my 1970 Buick GS 350 or 1970 GTO Judge. But 4 wheelin down logging trails in a 1975 Honda civic that burned completely up (just scrap and melted glass) is great in a different way. Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 11:13 PM (TI3xG) Girlfriend back in high school drove a 78 Plymouth Fury. That front seat was as big as a bed, and was used as such, IYKWIMAITYD. Try that in one of todays cars.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 07:36 PM (BXLPR)

405 ...I finished high school in 1953. ---- See, my mom was born that year and still won't hardly use the internet and acts like a genuine old person. You, on the other hand, keep pace with the horde. That says to me that age is what you make it.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 08, 2013 07:37 PM (KpRYi)

406 @274 I was shocked to learn that the guy from Sons of Anarchy is English. I have a good ear for language and accents and I didn't even get a hint.

Posted by: Republic of Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo at December 08, 2013 07:37 PM (Gk2GE)

407 Definitely in shock, can't even spell. bed not bead. And Brain not Bran. But I still spelled Ogenki right.

*ugh*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 07:38 PM (5oAy6)

408 Christopher Walken's "Dogs of War".

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 11:29 PM (9gNQd)

That was frigging great.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2013 07:39 PM (FMbng)

409 Definitely in shock, can't even spell. bed not bead. And Brain not Bran. But I still spelled Ogenki right.

*ugh*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 11:38 PM

Was wondering what you planned on bleaching with bran. Thought better than to ask.

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 07:40 PM (9gNQd)

410 LOL at Matt Yglesias not visiting a Walmart till one opened in DC, but there have been Walmarts in the good part of NoVA since I lived there 15 years ago. I swear these people never leave their bubble ever in their lives.

Posted by: specialkayel at December 08, 2013 07:41 PM (SaEnD)

411 Is that a good idea? I would bundle it together in a cool bucket of some sort, based on their individual interests.

Posted by: kalneva at December 08, 2013 11:31 PM (XyrkB)

Giving things you like or think are cool, is a good way to go. Trust yourself. Some celebrity said that.

Posted by: The Welfare State at December 08, 2013 07:41 PM (3qZbZ)

412 Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2013 11:39 PM (FMbng) Deer Hunter is on right now on the Sundance Channel. Walkmen was good in that too.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 08, 2013 07:41 PM (3aj5/)

413
Oh, now I remember. Flag half-staff for 10 days for Nelson Mandela.
Posted by: kalneva

As a point of reference, there is an actual federal flag law for this sort of thing. Presidents get 30 days at half staff, and so on.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2013 07:42 PM (kdS6q)

414 Thoughts and prayers for your brother, Carol -- but also for you.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 07:43 PM (T1005)

415 Girlfriend back in high school drove a 78 Plymouth Fury. That front seat was as big as a bed, and was used as such, IYKWIMAITYD. >>

My brother has ( it doesn't run and trees have grown up around it since it was parked in 83) A 58 Desoto 4 door. It was like a living room in the back seat. He let me use it occasionally and yes I know just what you mean.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 07:44 PM (TI3xG)

416 Sadly I think the federal flag law has some sort of out like "or at other times the President decides" doesn't it?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 08, 2013 07:44 PM (RZ8pf)

417 Girlfriend back in high school drove a 78 Plymouth Fury. That front seat was as big as a bed, and was used as such, IYKWIMAITYD.

Try that in one of todays cars.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 11:36 PM (BXLPR)

A friend of mine had a huge ass car like that, an early 70's olds or buick. We used to call it "the couch". Anytime he felt like driving it was like hey lets take the couch. We also called it The Log because it was brown. Amazing how big the seats were in those old sleds.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2013 07:45 PM (FMbng)

418 Christopher Walken's "Dogs of War".

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 11:29 PM (9gNQd)

That was frigging great.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2013 11:39 PM

Yeah, it is, despite the sorta flat direction etc. It could have benefitted from a bit more style and movement. But, good cast, story well told and all that. Al Bundy has an early bit part as the team member that elects not to go on the mission. A wise choice, really.

Posted by: otho at December 08, 2013 07:46 PM (9gNQd)

419 Time for the old folk. Tomorrow is supposed to bring an undetermined amount of snow. Thrilling.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 08, 2013 07:46 PM (SAMxH)

420 I folded up and put away my flag last November. So the Mandela half staff thing isn't an issue.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 07:47 PM (3qZbZ)

421 @ Brits grovey on Wal-Mart victory

Posted by: Quark at December 08, 2013 07:49 PM (aBQSE)

422 A 58 Desoto 4 door. It was like a living room in the back seat. He let me use it occasionally and yes I know just what you mean.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 11:44 PM (TI3xG)

Thats wild, both my parents had 1956 desotos. Mom had a convertible, dad had a hard top. Then dad grenaded the motor in the desoto, and to fix it he yanked the engine out of mom's convertible because "it was a leaky son of a bitch".

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2013 07:49 PM (FMbng)

423 See, my mom was born that year and still won't hardly use the internet and acts like a genuine old person. You, on the other hand, keep pace with the horde. That says to me that age is what you make it.>>

My Mother was born in 33 and used the internet as well as I do.

I also had a coworker that refused all this new fangled (it wont last) computer crap that was being pushed on us in 1986. Just different mindsets I guess.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 07:50 PM (TI3xG)

424
Checked. Obama's memo says flags at half until thru the 9th. So looks like 4 days total.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2013 07:51 PM (kdS6q)

425 Good night all.

Sweet dreams.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 08, 2013 07:52 PM (5oAy6)

426 Thats wild, both my parents had 1956 desotos. Mom had a convertible, dad had a hard top. Then dad grenaded the motor in the desoto, and to fix it he yanked the engine out of mom's convertible because "it was a leaky son of a bitch".

My Brothers got parked after we had just put a new Push Button tranny (no not that kind) in it and then it spun a bearing in the motor soon after. not worth enough to fix at the time now it's a total loss.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 07:55 PM (TI3xG)

427 congrats to Anna Puma for topping the wall of shame. You make it look easy. Nod n wave to the rest of the shamed. Bwah hah haah another week they didn't catch me.

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 07:55 PM (SsP73)

428 Having benifitted from the large front and back seats of a bygone era, I now have the delema of getting my daughter a huge car to keep her safe or one that facilitates her getting naked.

Posted by: Quark at December 08, 2013 07:55 PM (aBQSE)

429 My Mother was born in 33 and used the internet as well as I do.

I also had a coworker that refused all this new fangled (it wont last) computer crap that was being pushed on us in 1986. Just different mindsets I guess.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 11:50 PM (TI3xG)

My Mom was born in 38 and she e-mails and texts and now has a smart-phone Oh my.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 07:55 PM (3qZbZ)

430 The government/left controlled governments loves families as long as they can't and don't want to procreate. As the government can help people that way by giving birth control and abortions.

Posted by: Trevor@TJexcite at December 08, 2013 07:56 PM (bkAvJ)

431 missed her by thatmuch (Don Adams voice)?

Posted by: Clove Candycanes, the mindful webworker at December 08, 2013 07:56 PM (SsP73)

432 377 OT. I am having the worst time figuring out what to get my kids and their spouses. Everyone has everything, nowadays, and I hate giving lame presents. Here was my idea: My Favorite Things. Like the bench scraper, the turner, the stainless steel bowl, the soap, the socks, the micro-plane, etc. Just lots of small things that I love, and think everyone else would, too. Hubby would add man-things. Is that a good idea? I would bundle it together in a cool bucket of some sort, based on their individual interests. Posted by: kalneva at December 08, 2013 11:31 PM (XyrkB) I just send food, send my brother and his family Greater's Ice Cream. He can't get it in Texas and I send my other brother and his Stone Crab claws, fish or turducken, they are more adventuress.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 08, 2013 07:57 PM (b6koZ)

433 Introducing Tara King. IIRC correctly, when Mother introduced Tara King to Steed (and I want to say, Mrs. Peel), the first thing she said was, "Go ahead and say it," to which Steed replied "Say what?" "You know,'ta ra ra boom di a.'" I think at the time Tara may have been a nurse/assistant to Mother. Don't know if Riggs had already decided to leave. They may have been trying out replacements for chemistry with Steed and audience response

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 08, 2013 07:57 PM (XFTOV)

434 O, and get off my lawn.

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 08, 2013 07:58 PM (XFTOV)

435 I sincerely want to THNK YOU for all your prayer.

Posted by: Carol at December 08, 2013 07:59 PM (z4WKX)

436 Politically, speaking well of Mandela is prudent. What could Ted Cruz gain if he came out and said 'good riddance you racist commie shitbag!'?

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 07:59 PM (ZCYJ1)

437 408 Having benifitted from the large front and back seats of a bygone era, I now have the delema of getting my daughter a huge car to keep her safe or one that facilitates her getting naked. Posted by: Quark at December 08, 2013 11:55 PM (aBQSE) Please, we both want her safe, get the big car!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Quark's Daughter's Boyfriend at December 08, 2013 08:00 PM (BXLPR)

438 how has some moron not made a trip to el lay to keep Peaches warm in her time of need.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 08, 2013 08:02 PM (rDidD)

439 I folded up and put away my flag last November.I used to be proud to fly a flag and follow all the rules. Ive given that up now but here's an old photo of my flag from when I still cared.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5330/848/1600/flag.jpg

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 08:02 PM (TI3xG)

440 416 Politically, speaking well of Mandela is prudent. What could Ted Cruz gain if he came out and said 'good riddance you racist commie shitbag!'? Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 11:59 PM (ZCYJ1) Probably us fapping. Probably the media fapping so that they could replay that shit over and over again.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 08:03 PM (BXLPR)

441 Here's the thing with Vick. I don't care about Vick or the dogs. What I care about is how the manipulating cocksuckers in the govt and media *used* Vick and his dog victims to screw with Us, our freedoms, and our $$.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 08:03 PM (ZCYJ1)

442 64 I loved HS Blues dog breath. I loved HS Blues, too. Then one night my dad got killed while out on a call (he was a cop). When I got home from the funeral (I was in college) I turned on HS Blues and the show opened with a cop getting killed on a traffic stop. Turned it off and never watched it again.

Posted by: Anachronda at December 08, 2013 08:03 PM (U82Km)

443 how has some moron not made a trip to el lay to keep Peaches warm in her time of need.

Sorry, don't want to violate any restraining orders that may or may not be in effect.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 08, 2013 08:04 PM (JawqV)

444 I was born in '85 and have lurked AoSHQ since November '08 (i.e. the bad years). Hell, I'm still getting my edjimucation (in grad school at the moment)

Posted by: In Exile at December 08, 2013 08:06 PM (mz/2V)

445 how has some moron not made a trip to el lay to keep Peaches warm in her time of need.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 09, 2013 12:02 AM (rDidD)

God I miss Bl@zer

Posted by: The Dude at December 08, 2013 08:08 PM (vJdyz)

446 419 should of had a break like this
I folded up and put away my flag last November.>>
I used to be proud

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 08:08 PM (TI3xG)

447 God I miss Bl@zer

Posted by: The Dude at December 09, 2013 12:08 AM (vJdyz)

I was at work during the epic meltdown, so I saw it happen real time. He was a cool dude. Shame to see him go.

Posted by: In Exile at December 08, 2013 08:09 PM (mz/2V)

448 What could Ted Cruz gain if he came out and said 'good riddance you racist commie shitbag!'?

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 11:59 PM (ZCYJ1)

Immortality. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2013 08:10 PM (FMbng)

449
After a little reflection, it's painfully clear to me how the Obamacare train wreck will play out:

1. Come January, hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of people will be left high and dry: cancelled by their old providers, unable to buy insurance via the exchanges.

2. Obama and his media claque declare: "See? Market capitalism *failed* all these people! We need to step in and help them!"

3. An "emergency" bill is presented in Congress to create "temporary" federal health insurance for these people. I.e., single payer.

4. Republicans who oppose said bill will be slandered as scheming to deny health care to the middle class.

5. Bill passes: for the children. Naturally.

6. With the continuing collapse of ACA, more and more people are funnelled into the "emergency" single-payer system - i.e., *real* Obamacare.

7. Media shouts hosanna, Wall Street goes bananas, Democrats sweep to control of both houses of Congress in November.

Call me paranoid if you like; but I think that with this gang there's no such thing as paranoia: only degrees of awareness. I'm willing to bet a bright, shiny nickel that the "emergency" single-payer bill has already been written, and will be sprung on the us on or around January 15, with the talking points and canned "news" stories being worked on even as I type this.

Remember: these people never let a crisis go to waste. Which is why they manufacture so many of them.

Posted by: Brown Line at December 08, 2013 08:11 PM (a5bF3)

450 Can I just have a tiny moment of "Squee!" because I live a mile down the road from Pulaski Academy? I feel like it's a 2 second moment in the Ace spotlight. And the Walmart love always makes me proud to be an Arkansasan too. ;0) Sorry. Been iced in for 3 days, tomorrow will be 4. Getting a little cabin crazy.

Posted by: Oil Field Trash at December 08, 2013 08:13 PM (oZ6Js)

451 Woo hoo. Tree branches snapping left and right with the ice.

Posted by: RWC at December 08, 2013 08:14 PM (LpbKr)

452 419 should of had a break like this
I folded up and put away my flag last November.>>
I used to be proud

Posted by: The Hickster at December 09, 2013 12:08 AM (TI3xG)

I get it and I feel your pain. Growing up I was as patriotic as you could be. Now I hate what my country has become.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 08:15 PM (3qZbZ)

453 Good evening, Horde. I knit a pair of fingerless mitts again today, and generally felt miserable. My head is all stuffy and throat sore. Doesn't bode well for choir. I'm a very high soprano and today I sound like Kathleen Turner after a box of cigars.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at December 08, 2013 08:15 PM (N/cFh)

454 where did everyone go?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 08, 2013 08:17 PM (rDidD)

455 Peaches has "Fluffy" to keep her warm.

Posted by: CMU VET at December 08, 2013 08:17 PM (ejB0r)

456 Something funny before I go to bed. Jesus descends to Earth and sees three men talking. He approaches the first, a blind man, touches his head, and the man can see. Jesus touches the second man, and his deafness is cured.Jesus approaches the third man, who pushes Him away. Â“Leave me alone,Â” the man snarls. Â“IÂ’m on disability and I want to keep it.Â”

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 08, 2013 08:17 PM (b6koZ)

457 True, but look at the good side: they must be running out of money, because they've had to outsource trolling to some place where English is not the first language.

Posted by: Splunge at December 08, 2013 10:54 PM (bKA83)

You mean Dearborn?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2013 08:19 PM (8Fl6F)

458 Peaches has "Fluffy" to keep her warm. Posted by: CMU VET at December 09, 2013 12:17 AM (ejB0r) A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsDFxmbjZ7I

Posted by: The Large Caliber Hat at December 08, 2013 08:19 PM (Vk2pI)

459 Well, I obviously killed the thread.

I wouldn't worry Brown Line--Obama isn't 'competent' enough to get the single-payer rolled out before the midterm elections.

Posted by: In Exile at December 08, 2013 08:19 PM (mz/2V)

460 Remember: these people never let a crisis go to waste. Which is why they manufacture so many of them. Posted by: Brown Line at December 09, 2013 12:11 AM (a5bF3) Unlike the "financial meltdown" of 2008, this problem has a cause and a solution already in place. Repeal of Obamacare. Upon repeal, insurance companies will be able to issue policies almost immediately. The Dems are almost in a near panic, and it will only get worse for them. The Dem senators up in 2014 and 2016 are starting to panic. While they may love them some progressivism, they love being a Senator more.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 08:21 PM (BXLPR)

461 Click my name and smile at the thoughts of the anguish, impotent wailing and lamentations from the anti-American left (redundant I know).

Posted by: Radical Redneck at December 08, 2013 08:22 PM (Gi4Rb)

462 Peaches has "Fluffy" to keep her warm.>>

Wont those loud bangs keep Peaches up?

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 08:22 PM (TI3xG)

463 The Dems are almost in a near panic, and it will only get worse for them. The Dem senators up in 2014 and 2016 are starting to panic. While they may love them some progressivism, they love being a Senator more. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 09, 2013 12:21 AM (BXLPR) Any bets on a best-case scenario for getting rid of Obama's Dem Senate minions in '14 are?

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 08, 2013 08:24 PM (Vk2pI)

464 Obama isn't 'competent' enough to get the single-payer rolled out before the midterm elections.

Posted by: In Exile at December 09, 2013 12:19 AM (mz/2V)

Do you really want to bet on the LIVs when; "Something Has To Be Done About The Health-Care Crisis"

Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 08:25 PM (3qZbZ)

465 Do you really want to bet on the LIVs when; "Something Has To Be Done About The Health-Care Crisis">>

The middle is gonna get the notices next year before the mid terms. Even LIVs care about money in their pocket.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 08:28 PM (TI3xG)

466 247 HD Only for LTC expenses.

Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at December 08, 2013 08:29 PM (noB3y)

467 They should have a category for "least comments during the week."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 08:29 PM (qyfb5)

468 429
After a little reflection, it's painfully clear to me how the Obamacare train wreck will play out:

1. Come January, hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of people will be left high and dry: cancelled by their old providers, unable to buy insurance via the exchanges.

2. Obama and his media claque declare: "See? Market capitalism *failed* all these people! We need to step in and help them!"

3. An "emergency" bill is presented in Congress to create "temporary" federal health insurance for these people. I.e., single payer.

4. Republicans who oppose said bill will be slandered as scheming to deny health care to the middle class.

5. Bill passes: for the children. Naturally.

6. With the continuing collapse of ACA, more and more people are funnelled into the "emergency" single-payer system - i.e., *real* Obamacare.

7. Media shouts hosanna, Wall Street goes bananas, Democrats sweep to control of both houses of Congress in November.

Call me paranoid if you like; but I think that with this gang there's no such thing as paranoia: only degrees of awareness. I'm willing to bet a bright, shiny nickel that the "emergency" single-payer bill has already been written, and will be sprung on the us on or around January 15, with the talking points and canned "news" stories being worked on even as I type this.

Remember: these people never let a crisis go to waste. Which is why they manufacture so many of them.

Posted by: Brown Line at December 09, 2013 12:11 AM (a5bF3)

This was undoubtedly the plan when they passed this pile of shit in the dead of night on Christmas Eve 2009 -- and may yet be the plan today....but, as Helmuth von Multke wryly observed, "plan? -- is that all you've got?!?"

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 08:31 PM (T1005)

469 Any bets on a best-case scenario for getting rid of Obama's Dem Senate minions in '14 are? Posted by: The Political Hat at December 09, 2013 12:24 AM (Vk2pI) Pretty good if the GOP doesn't put up these neophyte candidates that don't know how to act when the spotlight is on them. They had too many in 10 and 12, and that cost them the Senate. Plus, those bad candidates allowed the Dems to spend money in races that turned out to be much closer than people thought they would be.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 08:31 PM (BXLPR)

470 @429

I think you have called it perfectly. You may not be the first one, nor the last, but you have indeed called it.

Posted by: navybrat at December 08, 2013 08:32 PM (AW7Gr)

471 431 Woo hoo. Tree branches snapping left and right with the ice.

Posted by: RWC at December 09, 2013 12:14 AM (LpbKr)

Where?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 08:32 PM (T1005)

472 Carol, I added Paul to the prayer list, so he's getting prayed for from both sides of the planet. @ Beserker...thanks for reminding me about the "Dogs of War". Great movie, I need to watch it again.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at December 08, 2013 08:33 PM (Sedwk)

473 377 Easy. AAA memberships. Everybody loves having roadside assistance available

Posted by: DAve at December 08, 2013 11:35 PM (b7yum)

The Alberta Motor Association, which is our local Triple-A affiliate, came out in favor of photo radar and red light cameras, so those fuckers are dead to me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2013 08:33 PM (8Fl6F)

474 Remember: these people never let a crisis go to waste. Which is why they manufacture so many of them. They manufacture a lot of crises because so many of them sputter out. They can't afford to do a real Reichstag fire. An "emergency" bill is presented in Congress to create "temporary" federal health insurance ... Look at ObamaCare: how many years of writing and how many thousands of pages? ... and it doesn't work. It can't work. The WH and Handlers simply do not have the intelligence to concoct the sort of crisis to get everyone on-board with SP. As ObamaCare burns, many people will be hurt ... and it will all be on the D's.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 08, 2013 08:35 PM (FlRtG)

475 Where? Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 12:32 AM (T1005) Northern VA. We had some crazy weather today (like the rest of the county) Lightning flash on a snow covered feild is awesome.

Posted by: RWC at December 08, 2013 08:35 PM (LpbKr)

476 Feild is field

Posted by: RWC at December 08, 2013 08:36 PM (LpbKr)

477 "The Alberta Motor Association ..." Gee AP, if you had any traffic lights where you are, you could get used to them, and this wouldn't be a problem.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 08, 2013 08:37 PM (FlRtG)

478 I was just lying awake wondering whether Obamacamps for dissenters will look more like The Prisoner's Village or Mad Max's Thunderdome.

Posted by: Northernlurker AKA Ragnar the Phillips screwdriver of Thor at December 08, 2013 08:38 PM (BLAfs)

479 I think the plan (part of it) was to fail and force the single-payer issue, that's why they've pushed so hard on controlling the bureaucracy and making them immune from control from the "co-equal" branches. I *hope* this is a case of catastrophic over-reach, but the IRS and ATF haven't been gutted and left for the crows, so we might still be utterly boned.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 08:39 PM (qyfb5)

480 but, as Helmuth von Multke wryly observed, "plan? -- is that all you've got?!?"
Posted by: cthulhu >>

Since the American public is now the enemy. I would like to submit his real quote.
Â“No battle plan, survives contact with the enemy.Â”

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 08:39 PM (TI3xG)

481 453 377 Easy. AAA memberships. Everybody loves having roadside assistance available

Posted by: DAve at December 08, 2013 11:35 PM (b7yum)

The Alberta Motor Association, which is our local Triple-A affiliate, came out in favor of photo radar and red light cameras, so those fuckers are dead to me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 09, 2013 12:33 AM (8Fl6F)

Call AAA and ask to become a member in some other region and tell 'em why. Whether or not it works, it sends a signal.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 08:41 PM (T1005)

482 I'm sure it has been said before so I'll just repeat it: The Johnson Foundation, et. al, have been working on a single payer shift for decades. If you've been reading ThinkProgress for the last 10 years you know that hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent to help about 8% of the US population force the issue. As it happens, they've been successful enough to get the most radical group into power since Wilson and FDR and by legal but unethical moves and major lies plugged in the transitional system to get to single payer. Seven years ago I was reading white papers from the Left explaining how, after they force everyone to buy insurance, they would force all healthcare workers into government unions which would control costs and help ease everyone into Single Payer. The political miscalculation they have made is only one thing: No matter how much radical bullshit spin they put on it in the now State Media millions of Americans are getting direct marketing snail mail punching them in the face telling them they are fucked and now completely owned by the State. Doesn't fly even in what little we have left of a free society. And we laughed. Oh how we laughed. Just my contribution to the noise.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 08, 2013 08:41 PM (oYl4Z)

483 I *hope* this is a case of catastrophic over-reach, but the IRS and ATF haven't been gutted and left for the crows, so we might still be utterly boned. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith screwed sure, for now but not permanently. did you see the piece in the sidebar on the bifurcated cusp? it is going to take more than a simple return to the status quo ante to make everyone happy. the arc of history is going to yell "switch" after which we get to hide the salami .

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 08, 2013 08:43 PM (rDidD)

484 Gee AP, if you had any traffic lights where you are, you could get used to them, and this wouldn't be a problem.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 09, 2013 12:37 AM (FlRtG)

Nearest traffic light to my home would be in Olds, over 30 miles distant. Problem with the red light cameras, and photo radar is that the claim is made that they enhance safety, but it's a lie. They enhance town revenue. First thing the bastards do when one goes in? Shorten the length of the yellow light; every effing time.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2013 08:43 PM (8Fl6F)

485 458 I was just lying awake wondering whether Obamacamps for dissenters will look more like The Prisoner's Village or Mad Max's Thunderdome.

Posted by: Northernlurker AKA Ragnar the Phillips screwdriver of Thor at December 09, 2013 12:38 AM (BLAfs)

Neither. Think "Solzhenitsyn".

Or think, "Alberta Oil Peon", if that gives you a clearer picture of weather conditions (though, thankfully, not the political climate).

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 08:44 PM (T1005)

486 Pretty good if the GOP doesn't put up these neophyte candidates that don't know how to act when the spotlight is on them. They had too many in 10 and 12, and that cost them the Senate.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 09, 2013 12:31 AM (BXLPR)

Problem is the MFM will always find and amplify right-wing nuttery. Todd Akin anyone.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 08:45 PM (3qZbZ)

487 This was undoubtedly the plan when they passed this pile of shit in the dead of night on Christmas Eve 2009 -- and may yet be the plan today....but, as Helmuth von Multke wryly observed, "plan? -- is that all you've got?!?" Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 12:31 AM (T1005) I think that may have been the plan when they passed it, but the resulting backlash was not what they expected. I believe they thought that the media would help push the narrative of needing single payer, but social media and other forums have thrown that for a loop.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 08:45 PM (BXLPR)

488 460 but, as Helmuth von Multke wryly observed, "plan? -- is that all you've got?!?"

Posted by: cthulhu >>

Since the American public is now the enemy. I would like to submit his real quote.
Â“No battle plan, survives contact with the enemy.Â”

Posted by: The Hickster at December 09, 2013 12:39 AM (TI3xG)

I figured that people who knew the quote might be amused by the paraphrase.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 08:45 PM (T1005)

489 400 I folded up and put away my flag last November. So the Mandela half staff thing isn't an issue. Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 11:47 PM (3qZbZ) Me too. I've only flown it on Memorial Day and Veterans Day this year.

Posted by: rickl at December 08, 2013 08:46 PM (sdi6R)

490 202 >> The first TV I owned wasn't connected to the cable or even an antenna. It was just to serve as a display for my Atari 800 computer.

epobirs, Heh! That's exactly why I bought a TV for the first time, around 1981. And mine wasn't hooked up to the outside world either.

TV watching represents a very small portion of my life's time.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2013 08:47 PM (cHZB7)

491 the arc of history is going to yell "switch" after which we get to hide the salami . Posted by: yankeefifth at December 09, 2013 12:43 AM (rDidD) I volunteer to hide the salami!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke, Salami Connoisseur at December 08, 2013 08:47 PM (Vk2pI)

492 Problem is the MFM will always find and amplify right-wing nuttery. Todd Akin anyone. Posted by: cm9000 at December 09, 2013 12:45 AM (3qZbZ) And they will turn anything into right-wing nuttery, e.g., "I can see Russia from my house!" and "binders full of women."

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 08:48 PM (GRLuN)

493 Call AAA and ask to become a member in some other region and tell 'em why. Whether or not it works, it sends a signal.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 12:41 AM (T1005)

No. Two reasons. One, I don't know if any of the other provincial auto clubs are any different in that respect. Two, I can pull wrenches with the best of them, and I have saved enough money over the years by NOT belonging to an auto club, that if I ever need a long highway, I can pay it out of my savings. My "emergency road service" is basically self-insurance.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2013 08:48 PM (8Fl6F)

494 I spent most of my high school years drunk and high as a frikkin kite - '82-'86 - and somehow scored an 1120 on the SAT (which I took ONE [1] time with a hangover).
As an office aid (senior elective) I actually glimpsed my 2 inch thick 'permanent record' (while stoned, after lunch of course) which scared the piss out me of me because it was 2 INCHES THICK.
So after I graduated #292 out of 307 and 4 of my best friends went to jail, I applied to Southwest Texas State University (now Texas State University-San Marcos) where I went on to earn 2 Bachelor's degrees [Management and Marketing] which allowed me to succeed beyond my wildest dreams, much less anyone that knew me as a young man.
And not once did I ever watch network TV from '82-'93.
TURN THE TV OFF
AMERICA! I LOVE THIS FUCKIN' COUNTRY!

Posted by: CozMark (Platinum Member) at December 08, 2013 08:49 PM (JeBIy)

495 "binders full of women." Posted by: Mindy at December 09, 2013 12:48 AM (GRLuN) I still don't get that one. But then, I haven't been lobotomized like a KennedyÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 08, 2013 08:50 PM (Vk2pI)

496 467 This was undoubtedly the plan when they passed this pile of shit in the dead of night on Christmas Eve 2009 -- and may yet be the plan today....but, as Helmuth von Multke wryly observed, "plan? -- is that all you've got?!?"
Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 12:31 AM (T1005)

I think that may have been the plan when they passed it, but the resulting backlash was not what they expected.

I believe they thought that the media would help push the narrative of needing single payer, but social media and other forums have thrown that for a loop.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 09, 2013 12:45 AM (BXLPR)

The media went "all-in" on this CF, and it's a race between how fast TPTB can lock this crap in and how fast the media is eroding.....and I'm hopeful that they're losing. With LIVs, though, it's nail-bitingly close.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 08:50 PM (T1005)

497 I have to ask. Does our beloved republic still have a rendezvous with destiny? Of course, right? But what, now, is our destiny? I fear I already know.

Posted by: soothie at December 08, 2013 08:51 PM (ZCYJ1)

498 400,000 good Americans died in WW2 alone and you can't even fly a flag? get some perspective

Posted by: DAve at December 08, 2013 08:52 PM (b7yum)

499

heheheh eh heheh... "it was 2 inches thick"... heheheh

Posted by: beavis at December 08, 2013 08:54 PM (9gNQd)

500 I figured that people who knew the quote might be amused by the paraphrase.>>

It just reminded me of the other. So I went looking for it and realized since you used his name that was your point. It is such a good quote I thought it was worth bringing back for any that hadn't seen it.

Not trying to F up your fun but it had been had just the original Quote means more for me. (the self important prick I am)

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 08:55 PM (TI3xG)

501 Here's the thing with singly-payer. It is the government rationing limited resources. We must then demand that the state must fund cures for cancer for little sick children, and use all the money that had been going to abortions of choice and contraceptives. After all, if you disagree, then you hate poor kids with cancer. Make it the "Checkers Speech" times 1000, each and every time.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 08, 2013 08:56 PM (Vk2pI)

502 479
Imagine looking at a file with every every stupid stunt you pulled for the last 12 years. Not to mention every report card and referrals to 'specialists'.

Posted by: CozMark (Platinum Member) at December 08, 2013 08:58 PM (JeBIy)

503 I figure it this way -- If the conspiracy theorists are right, and somehow single payer gets jammed down our throats and the Dems hold onto the Senate, well then it just confirms my fears that the 2012 election was the end of America as we knew it.

But there's still a chance to reverse course, with OCare repealed and some fiscal sanity in DC finally coming to life. So I watch, and comment, and wait.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2013 08:59 PM (cHZB7)

504 480
My repeats of words an general nonsense Indicate my night of coherence is done. Nite all.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 09:00 PM (TI3xG)

505 g'evenin', 'rons & g'night, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson (@SupSidePolitics) at December 08, 2013 09:00 PM (JMmQ9)

506 The media went "all-in" on this CF, and it's a race between how fast TPTB can lock this crap in and how fast the media is eroding.....and I'm hopeful that they're losing. With LIVs, though, it's nail-bitingly close. Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 12:50 AM (T1005) Hide posts from (T1005) The MFM does occasionally abandon a plan, but so far they have steadfastly retained their strategy. They may abandon the man and the ACA, but until there's a sufficiently powerful and widespread alternative or a lot of partisans have a come-to-Jesus moment, they will simply do the same thing the next time around. Some of them really don't think of themselves as Partisan, they're not *lying* when they say they're not partisan so much as they are brutally unaware of how easily manipulated they are - one of the "tricks" is programming them in school and pop culture to believe that "the establishment" is always The Conservatives, regardless of who actually has power. The "establishment" (bureaucracy) has been "liberal" for a very long time. The MFM and other lower-rank "liberals" still think it's the other way around.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 09:00 PM (qyfb5)

507 Steed's hottest partner was Honore Blackman, as Mrs. Cathy Gale, his first female partner. She's not as well know because the first couple of years of The Avengers did not air in the U.S. I never saw any of them on the air, not even reruns, that I can remember. The end of Emma Peel's run got really silly, even dumb . . . cannibal plants from outer space and stuff like that. I think the writing improved a little when Tara King replaced Mrs. Peel. Also, The New Avengers is pretty good too. Not as good as the early years, but they don't suck. Steed is still good, my adolescent daughters thought Mike Gambit was cool, and Purdey was a good female lead. Note: Joanna Lumley is still acting, I regularly recognise her voice in animated features (e.g. Corpse Bride from a few years ago).

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at December 08, 2013 09:00 PM (zZLVJ)

508 H/A has a good post about Quisling Cumhole & Fracking. This is what I posted. It fits well w/the post here about us being exporters of oil & gas. . I work in the gas fields about 15- 30 minutes south of Binghamton, NY. Half way between Scranton and Elmira has at least 1k wells. I have guys/kids showing up looking for jobs. TheyÂ’re willing to drive an hour each way for $15/hour. WeÂ’re building a pipeline right through NY/NJ to the ports. Once liquefied it brings good export money. Cumho has had 5 studies done in the last 3 years, all pro Fracking. HeÂ’s just waiting for that 1 whacko to publish falsehoods & heÂ’ll justify his dithering. NY has a Quisling! IÂ’ve seen my gas heating bill go down every year for the last 3 years, LEASED my 71 acres out @ 5k/acre, and got a job out of the deal too. Yeah, this stuff has to stop ASAP!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 08, 2013 09:01 PM (DEF1r)

509 473 Call AAA and ask to become a member in some other region and tell 'em why. Whether or not it works, it sends a signal.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 12:41 AM (T1005)

No. Two reasons. One, I don't know if any of the other provincial auto clubs are any different in that respect. Two, I can pull wrenches with the best of them, and I have saved enough money over the years by NOT belonging to an auto club, that if I ever need a long highway, I can pay it out of my savings. My "emergency road service" is basically self-insurance.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 09, 2013 12:48 AM (8Fl6F)

I've used mine enough over the years to have in the "tolerable loss" area. It's not great, but every so often it helps (like when Jiffy Lube refilled my car with six quarts of oil and it blew the front main seal [car only holds 3.5 quarts]. Plus, you get discounts on museum tickets and touristy stuff. And I got exceptional customer service when Hertz in Charlotte, NC, was playing games -- as in "Google Earth for walking directions to other rental agency" customer service [Hi, Amy!!! Renewed thanks!].

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 09:03 PM (T1005)

510 Problem is the MFM will always find and amplify right-wing nuttery. Todd Akin anyone. Posted by: cm9000 at December 09, 2013 12:45 AM (3qZbZ) When I talk about the neophyte candidates, I don't mean that I don't want candidates that have never run for office. What I want are candidates that know how to interact with the media. Ron Johnson had no political experience, but I'm sure that he had many dealings with the media when he ran for office. Plus, he was used to dealing with board meetings where you learn what needs to be said, and when to STFU. GOP candidates seem to do a good job with answering questions, but they don't know when to STFU. Once they go past the STFU moment, that is when the facepalming starts.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 09:03 PM (BXLPR)

511 Make it the "Checkers Speech" times 1000, each and every time.>>

They own the media. How do you transmit that speech.?

Posted by: The Hickster at December 08, 2013 09:05 PM (TI3xG)

512 480 I figured that people who knew the quote might be amused by the paraphrase.>>

It just reminded me of the other. So I went looking for it and realized since you used his name that was your point. It is such a good quote I thought it was worth bringing back for any that hadn't seen it.

Not trying to F up your fun but it had been had just the original Quote means more for me. (the self important prick I am)

Posted by: The Hickster at December 09, 2013 12:55 AM (TI3xG)

It's all good. There are damned few places that I'd consider monkeying with the actual quote, but we've got such a great crowd around here that I thought it possible that someone might appreciate the humor in updating the language. On the other hand, AoS is read by more people than the usual commenting Horde....and it was a good thing for them to see the original wisdom in plaintext. Your note was nicely done, as well, as it illuminated the point I was making.

Shorter reply -- have a beer! <slides one down counter>

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 09:09 PM (T1005)

513 Make it the "Checkers Speech" times 1000, each and every time.>> They own the media. How do you transmit that speech.? Posted by: The Hickster at December 09, 2013 01:05 AM (TI3xG) Through a series of tubesÂ…

Posted by: Zombie Ted Stevens at December 08, 2013 09:09 PM (Vk2pI)

514 484 480
My repeats of words an general nonsense Indicate my night of coherence is done. Nite all.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 09, 2013 01:00 AM (TI3xG)

I just knew it was a perfect time for another cold one. Prost!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 09:11 PM (T1005)

515 483
How will they be able to jam single payer through, which is even more govermenty than 0bamacare, if, IF, people just start paying cash to doctors for the care they receive?

Dr. Ben Carson splained the Tea Party Health Care Reform program to 0bama's face. Transferable health savings accounts, nationalized insurance for catastrophic healthcare, etc.

Posted by: CozMark (Platinum Member) at December 08, 2013 09:12 PM (AogGt)

516

489 Women LOVE the security of an AAA membership... it's both supremely practical AND insanely romantic.

Plus I don't have to leave work if their car breaks down

Posted by: DAve at December 08, 2013 09:14 PM (b7yum)

517 475 "binders full of women." Posted by: Mindy at December 09, 2013 12:48 AM (GRLuN) I still don't get that one. But then, I haven't been lobotomized like a KennedyÂ… Posted by: The Political Hat at December 09, 2013 12:50 AM (Vk2pI) It's the lefties memes. All the girl power types couldn't STFU about it. The latest leftist meme I saw on FB was that the Obamacare website failure was Newt Gingrich's fault because of something he did while Speaker. Now forget the fact that he was out of the House 11 years before the bill was even passed and signed.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 08, 2013 09:14 PM (BXLPR)

518 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 09, 2013 01:00 AM (qyfb5)

Tells you how well I'm doing -- I just realized you were here. Did you see my email from last night?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 09:15 PM (T1005)

519 Tells you how well I'm doing -- I just realized you were here. Did you see my email from last night? Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 01:15 AM (T1005) Hide posts from (T1005) I did, and I replied to it (tonight).

I had a crazy month, even not counting NaNo (though it's All Connected), other, more important things happened that are kind of still secret. Oh and the ER visit kind of shook things up. But, as usual, they have no idea what happened, massive batteries of tests confirm I, like Abe Vigoda, am still alive. Other than that it's mostly boring.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 09:19 PM (qyfb5)

520 The "binders full of women" thing is proof that a lot of people have been brainwashed to the point where it doesn't even have to *begin* to make sense for them to chant it endlessly. We really are teetering on the edge of tribal warfare - and that's exactly what it is - you are not of my tribe, therefore you are the enemy. It is utterly brainless and destructive, but Jon Stewart or Hillary or Sheryl Crow told them, so It Must Be True.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 09:21 PM (qyfb5)

521 495 >> How will they be able to jam single payer through, which is even more govermenty than 0bamacare, if, IF, people just start paying cash to doctors for the care they receive?

Cozmark, I don't think they can. But some do.

404Care has been a blessing in disguise to the US, over my quite vocal protests about it being implemented. Finally, the libs have loaded on that last straw, the one that breaks camels.

Now we get to see if Americans have learned any kind of lesson. There's where my pessimism starts kicking back in.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2013 09:23 PM (cHZB7)

522

Put all these racist doctor

s jail !!!

Posted by: mary clogginstien's juicy clitoris at December 08, 2013 09:24 PM (trr5T)

523 499 Tells you how well I'm doing -- I just realized you were here. Did you see my email from last night?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 01:15 AM (T1005) Hide posts from (T1005)

I did, and I replied to it (tonight).

I had a crazy month, even not counting NaNo (though it's All Connected), other, more important things happened that are kind of still secret.

Oh and the ER visit kind of shook things up. But, as usual, they have no idea what happened, massive batteries of tests confirm I, like Abe Vigoda, am still alive.

Other than that it's mostly boring.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 09, 2013 01:19 AM (qyfb5)

And there it is! Right where I wasn't previously looking. *Facepalm.*

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 09:24 PM (T1005)

524 And yes, I did say I have a secret, nyah nyah, and I ain't gonna say what it is, so there!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 09:26 PM (qyfb5)

525 Hey y'all.

OT and short, but I love this place. I lurk a lot, because of the time difference, but reading the comments, even well after the fact sometimes, helps keep me sane.

I've been in Afghanistan since March. Sitting in Kyrgyzstan right now, waiting on the next flight. Somebody messed up and we missed a flight, so instead of 72 hours here, we got 10 days.

Then Baldy posted a link on the Pearl Harbor thread, about the guys on the West Virginia. I've been in the Navy almost 17 years, and never heard that story before. Those guys were stuck on the bottom of the harbor for longer than we'll stay in Manas, and then they died. Kinda puts my little problems in perspective.

Point is, thanks for everything you do - to ace for letting us hang out here, to the cobs for keeping it running smooth, and to the commenters for making it all what it is. I love you guys (most of you, at least), more than a lot of people I know in real life.

Posted by: Bomber at December 08, 2013 09:26 PM (nr+of)

526 Nice to see you, Bomber. Also, I'm impressed that you can spell Kyrgyzstan. I had to cut-and-paste.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 09:30 PM (GRLuN)

527 Kyrgyzstan - it's all consonants until the 'a.' Hardest part is getting the 'zs' right.

Posted by: Bomber at December 08, 2013 09:34 PM (nr+of)

528 There's a topic on the ONT?!?!?

Get home safe, Bomber.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 09:34 PM (qyfb5)

529
Oooo - a DVD screener of Gravity has leaked to the net.

*gnab*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2013 09:34 PM (kdS6q)

530 The latest leftist meme I saw on FB was that the Obamacare website failure was Newt Gingrich's fault because of something he did while Speaker.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 09, 2013 01:14 AM (BXLPR)

I'll top that with the leftist meme of Obamanomics being hamstrung by the savage cuts in the Safety Net under Reagan.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 09:35 PM (3qZbZ)

531 Night all. Here is a live version of "Rays of Pinion" by Baroness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_ypIJIcahI

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 08, 2013 09:35 PM (Vk2pI)

532 Safe is easy at this point. Our theme song is "I'll Be Home for Christmas." Which is great, until some jackass says, "if only in my dreams." Good group of guys to be stuck with. And it's better than Bagram.

Posted by: Bomber at December 08, 2013 09:35 PM (nr+of)

533 505 Hey y'all.

OT and short, but I love this place. I lurk a lot, because of the time difference, but reading the comments, even well after the fact sometimes, helps keep me sane.

I've been in Afghanistan since March. Sitting in Kyrgyzstan right now, waiting on the next flight. Somebody messed up and we missed a flight, so instead of 72 hours here, we got 10 days.

Then Baldy posted a link on the Pearl Harbor thread, about the guys on the West Virginia. I've been in the Navy almost 17 years, and never heard that story before. Those guys were stuck on the bottom of the harbor for longer than we'll stay in Manas, and then they died. Kinda puts my little problems in perspective.

Point is, thanks for everything you do - to ace for letting us hang out here, to the cobs for keeping it running smooth, and to the commenters for making it all what it is. I love you guys (most of you, at least), more than a lot of people I know in real life.

Posted by: Bomber at December 09, 2013 01:26 AM (nr+of)

Don't think it's unrequited. Thank you for venturing out into the nasty places of the world for a bunch of ideas and concepts that are revered amongst the Horde -- and widely dismissed by the current Administration. Thank you for stepping forward and putting your life, your health, and your time between this nation and those who wish it harm. Thanks also for joining the superannuated and diaper-wearers here who Are. Not. Worthy. [-- or, maybe, "Able"] to tote your rucksack -- you serve as a role-model, an information source, a comrade, and.....last, but not least....a drinking buddy.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 09:37 PM (T1005)

534 Thanks, ctuthlu. Way over the top, but it means a lot to me. And I'd be happy to raise a glass with anybody here, either on the ONT, or preferably in real life.

Gotta run, our little group has a meeting in a few minutes. See y'all soon.

Posted by: Bomber at December 08, 2013 09:42 PM (nr+of)

535 Be well Bomber, and thank you for your service. I hope your travel experience improves. Be well.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 08, 2013 09:43 PM (ojnk6)

536 Bomber, it sounds like you are involved in that time honored military tradition; two of them, in fact -- Hurry up and wait, and snafu.

Thanks for your service.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2013 09:44 PM (cHZB7)

537 Remember when Reagan made draconian cuts to the social safety-net. So do liberals in their fevered imaginations.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 09:46 PM (3qZbZ)

538

Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 01:37 AM (T1005)

THIS^^^^^

Thank you Bomber. A toast to you and your brethren. I salute you!

Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2013 09:47 PM (IEbb0)

539 I see that Cracked article mentions Kurt Russell and Soldier. I like that movie, and even own the DvD. As you might guess, I got it from the $5 bin at Walmart.

People that don't ever shop at Walmart, btw, must be allergic to saving money, especially on food.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2013 09:49 PM (cHZB7)

540 Any of the legal beagles still here? While I was at Gushie's this weekend, somebody (probably my asshole neighbor) was in my backyard. A bunch if stuff was moved & knocked over, plus they tried to get into the storage shed on the north side of the yard. Oh, and the creeping fig on my side of the dividing wall is knocked off (it was fine when I mowed the lawn Friday) like someone scrabbled their way over the wall. So, if I get him on tape doing the same stuff, can I get him busted for criminal trespass and attempted breaking and entering? And will that fuck up his physical therapist certifications?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 08, 2013 09:49 PM (9MTZt)

541 514 Thanks, ctuthlu. Way over the top, but it means a lot to me. And I'd be happy to raise a glass with anybody here, either on the ONT, or preferably in real life.

Gotta run, our little group has a meeting in a few minutes. See y'all soon.

Posted by: Bomber at December 09, 2013 01:42 AM (nr+of)

I was stretching for a bit of humor -- but if you ever tell me, face-to-face, "Hi, cthulhu -- I'm Bomber", your drinks are paid-for until closing.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 09:50 PM (T1005)

542 Possibly. Do you have before and after pictures?

Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2013 09:52 PM (IEbb0)

543 OMG Bomber is still stuck in halfwaystan? That blows. Praying you make it home way before Christmas.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 08, 2013 09:52 PM (9MTZt)

544 520 Any of the legal beagles still here? While I was at Gushie's this weekend, somebody (probably my asshole neighbor) was in my backyard. A bunch if stuff was moved & knocked over, plus they tried to get into the storage shed on the north side of the yard. Oh, and the creeping fig on my side of the dividing wall is knocked off (it was fine when I mowed the lawn Friday) like someone scrabbled their way over the wall.
So, if I get him on tape doing the same stuff, can I get him busted for criminal trespass and attempted breaking and entering? And will that fuck up his physical therapist certifications?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 09, 2013 01:49 AM (9MTZt)

In general, there are a bunch of limitations about imputing prior bad acts to people who have been later demonstrated to be acting badly, unless you can establish a pattern of behavior. In other words, if you get him on film shinnying over your back wall, you can get him for damages on that day, but not the day before; if you get him leggin' it over the back wall twice, you can get him for damages on those two days -- but not a third; but if you get him for 19 occasions of tiptoe-ing through the tulips, you can probably add on the 20th.

Depending on the area, a man-trap, shovel, and sack of lime might be a better investment than a security camera. Has to be somewhere where passers-by won't respond to the screams, though.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 09:57 PM (T1005)

545 So, if I get him on tape doing the same stuff, can I get him busted for criminal trespass and attempted breaking and entering? And will that fuck up his physical therapist certifications? Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 09, 2013 01:49 AM (9MTZt) Hide posts from (9MTZt) Getting on tape is good, especially if it's clear enough. The latter is a maybe, but it will probably take some effort. Inertia is a bitch. I hope so, though, I *really* hate that sort of thing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 09:59 PM (qyfb5)

546 I was stretching for a bit of humor -- but if you ever tell me, face-to-face, "Hi, cthulhu -- I'm Bomber", your drinks are paid-for until closing. but face-to-face with the elder god usually involves tentacles and the inability to remove them from the face, thereof ...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 08, 2013 10:03 PM (jdRXP)

547 >> Any of the legal beagles still here?

I'm not one, but I have opinions. It sounds like trespassing, but it would probably help if you had signs posted saying No Trespassing on your wall/fence. Also take lots of dated pics of the signs and the backyard, then set up your video camera.

At most, you might get the cops to charge him with trespassing and property destruction; likely misdemeanors and thus you will have to sign charges personally. But the evidence could also come in handy for a restraining order or civil lawsuits against the prick.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2013 10:04 PM (cHZB7)

548 An excerpt from a letter I sent regarding the Charlotte fiasco:

As to myself, I called the AAA number on my reservation paperwork and bitterly explained that I was only doing business with Hertz on AAA's say-so.....and that recommendation wasn't looking too well for AAA's business judgment. The AAA rep, Amy, went significantly above and beyond the call of duty to extract me from my situation Â– even using numeric street addresses to triangulate my position relative to other rental agencies Â– and found an available rental car 300 yards away at a different company [thus proving that Hertz' assertion #3 was an outright lie]. Mind you, that's a 300 yard slog cross-country with cumbersome luggage....but against the prospect of an indeterminate wait at Hertz?

We made arrangements on the phone, checked them twice, and she even called the counter of the other agency to verify that a car was actually available. I then hung up, and started off on foot across the Hertz lot to the frontage road, down 3 driveways, and onto the other agency's lot Â– where everything magically started to work like it was supposed to.

I have no idea why AAA is so enamored of Hertz Â– I have never in my life experienced such a horrible quality of service with rental cars, and I've rented right-hand-drive in Scotland and Fiji with a California license. But I can tell you that representatives like Amy are why people are enamored of AAA. She was polite and professional with someone obviously cranked-out-of-shape, tired, and in a bind. She was clever and resourceful when it came to making alternate plans. And she was thorough and effective in making sure that things were going to get better. When I finally marched out of the Bedlam at the Hertz lot Â– 2-1/2 hours after getting there Â– I felt that I had a guardian angel who had saved me.....and I wanted her management to know about it.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 10:05 PM (T1005)

549 BBD: Harbor Freight has a 4-channel video recording system (to a HD) for about $250.00 (with coupon). Fry's and other places have similar systems, with likely better reliability, and probably better connectivity), for not much more. You might set one up, very discretely on your property, to video ONLY YOUR property, but so close to the edge that a hand or foot on to your property will be recorded. Getting advice of your personal lawyer is probably also a good idea. The needed results can be put on a USB drive and handed to your lawyer for action.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 08, 2013 10:06 PM (FlRtG)

550 bebe, I hope you are ready to defend you and yours.

Threats, real and potential need to be prepared for.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 08, 2013 10:07 PM (3qZbZ)

551 Wow, is there legal expertise here tonight? I was wondering about something. Would someone be kind enough to offer their thoughts? Thanks in advance. I had a punch-card with a fitness organization. I still had 13 out of 15 visits left on the card, but the organization changed owners, sent out an email saying there would be limited time for people to make use of their punchcards (I got the email, but didn't catch the notification) and now they will no longer honor the punchcards. Is it legal for them to not honor an agreement made with the previous owner? I've done my part -- paid the fee. Allowing me to have my visits costs them little to nothing and preserves customer goodwill. I am certainly not interested in buying another push card if they didn't honor the previous one.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:07 PM (GRLuN)

552 522 no pics, and even if I did they would claim raccoons or cats did it. The cockholster already lied about the shit they pulled when they moved in cause my parents are dead & cant respond. but oops, dickhead forgot i was present & heard his threats. plus pulled open as far as the padlock would allow doors don't prove anything. Friend just emailed me info on the company that installed/monitors their cameras

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 08, 2013 10:09 PM (9MTZt)

553 push card = punchcard (silly auto-correct!)

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:09 PM (GRLuN)

554 >> Is it legal for them to not honor an agreement made with the previous owner?

Yep. Your contract is with the old company, and they are gone. The new company ought to show flexibility, but they don't have to.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2013 10:12 PM (cHZB7)

555 Bebe, we had neighbors trespass, vandalize, and take things from our property. We called the sheriff (we are outside city limits) who came and looked things over. They just kinda added it to the list of transgressions by the neighbors until they had enough to tell the neighbors, "Hey, you're taking this too far. We're going to have to start fining you." These were kids doing this, and we did insist that the kids come over and work off the hassle they caused us.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:15 PM (GRLuN)

556 Also HI BEBE! And I wish you good luck with that. Surveillance cameras are getting relatively cheap, just make sure that if an installer comes out they're discreet about it. Sounds like the neighbor is an awful busybody and it kind of depends whether your goal is surveillance or deterrence.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 10:16 PM (qyfb5)

557 Thanks, GnuBreed. It just seems short-sighted of them. What am I supposed to say when friends ask how my workouts are going? "They wouldn't honor my punchcard." That can't be good for their reputation.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:17 PM (GRLuN)

558 531 Wow, is there legal expertise here tonight? I was wondering about something. Would someone be kind enough to offer their thoughts? Thanks in advance.

I had a punch-card with a fitness organization. I still had 13 out of 15 visits left on the card, but the organization changed owners, sent out an email saying there would be limited time for people to make use of their punchcards (I got the email, but didn't catch the notification) and now they will no longer honor the punchcards.

Is it legal for them to not honor an agreement made with the previous owner? I've done my part -- paid the fee. Allowing me to have my visits costs them little to nothing and preserves customer goodwill. I am certainly not interested in buying another push card if they didn't honor the previous one.

Posted by: Mindy at December 09, 2013 02:07 AM (GRLuN)

There are two big things that skew the outcome of your situation -- first, the circumstances of "organization changed owners" -- and, second, the laws in your state. If, for instance, the new owners picked up the assets (but not liabilities) of the place.....you're SOL. If they picked up the operating business, but the state doesn't say they can't slap an expiration date on visits.....there ya go. But I can recommend one thing....ask management what the best deal you can get is -- without arguing. Go in and say, "I don't know what you bought when you took over the place, I haven't gotten down'n'dirty with local 'prepaid service card' law -- but I'm sitting across the table from you and seeing whether we have a mutual interest in a continuing relationship."

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 10:19 PM (T1005)

559 Posting a no trespassing sign on a fully fenced yard with locked gates, in a single family neighborhood of the same? No, time & energy going into camera installation and getting garage cleared so I can park the car in there and they'll have no clue when I'm here. Plus I have a roommate moving in 1/1: 6'4" fireman. This douchebag was scared of my Marine father, this ought to scare him too. I gotta call roomie tomorrow & see if he can/wants to move in ASAP.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 08, 2013 10:20 PM (9MTZt)

560 539 Posting a no trespassing sign on a fully fenced yard with locked gates, in a single family neighborhood of the same? No, time & energy going into camera installation and getting garage cleared so I can park the car in there and they'll have no clue when I'm here. Plus I have a roommate moving in 1/1: 6'4" fireman. This douchebag was scared of my Marine father, this ought to scare him too. I gotta call roomie tomorrow & see if he can/wants to move in ASAP.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 09, 2013 02:20 AM (9MTZt)

Like I said -- hole in the ground and a sack of lime, and you wouldn't have to deal with cameras or cleaning the garage.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 10:23 PM (T1005)

561 Thanks, cthulhu, for the perspective. Yes, if I pursue this, I want to keep from antagonizing them.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:24 PM (GRLuN)

562 537 >> That can't be good for their reputation.

Nope Mindy. And since they are a local business, dependent on local customers for all their revenue, you might mention that to them and tell them you intend to spread the word among your neighbors if they don't change their minds.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2013 10:25 PM (cHZB7)

563 Hi Mero. These people are assholes. They fucked royally with the neighbors on the other side of them, so there is a history. He has been escalating fucking with me since my parents died. Comes in my yard & cuts my plants, but refuses to cut the tree hanging over in my yard, that if it falls will land on my house. Had the balls to tell me it was my responsibility to cut what was hanging over. When I told him it wasn't, he said he'd take card of it when he is ready. That tree is older than me, it's been there my whole life. I don't want it to die, but I'm almost to the point where it can hit the house, & I'll sue them into a cardboard box on the sidewalk.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 08, 2013 10:28 PM (9MTZt)

564 Damn, leakfrogs are featured at http://sellout.woot.com/ -- just like old times. Of course, IRL I need to find our backstock and put one behind the clothes washer, 'cause we just had do do a cleanup there. They really are convenient little beasties.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 10:28 PM (T1005)

565 bebe's boobs destroy at December 09, 2013 02:20 AM (9MTZt) For vu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKAiMTMqJ_Y Nothing helpful and a bit snarky, if you are too tired to find it funny ...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 08, 2013 10:29 PM (jdRXP)

566 Like I said -- hole in the ground and a sack of lime, and you wouldn't have to deal with cameras or cleaning the garage..... Heh I wish. But as Gushie pointed out when I called to tell her, the popos tend to not be amused by booby traps.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 08, 2013 10:30 PM (9MTZt)

567 GnuBree, they did very kindly say they weren't going to charge me for my last visit. (I didn't know my punchcard was no good until I finished my workout and went up to get it punched.) I should hope not!

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:31 PM (GRLuN)

568 >> Posting a no trespassing sign on a fully fenced yard with locked gates, in a single family neighborhood of the same?

It's making it clear that you don't want to be trespassed on. It improves your legal stance, since that is what you asked. Or just get a mangy junkyard dog with a bad attitude and put him back there.

Be sure and get video of that meeting, wouldja?

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2013 10:31 PM (cHZB7)

569 GnuBree = GnuBreed My keyboard is acting up.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:33 PM (GRLuN)

570 Mindy: Let me play too. First, how much money is involved? $200.00 is not a trivial amount, but walking away might turn out to be your best option. Second, how much time has elapsed, between the e-mail and the end of the window for use, and since the window closed? I'm guessing a 2-4 week window, and it's been at least 2 weeks since it closed. This strikes me as a potentially good deal if you can make #3 (below) work: Third, how much for a new card? This might be the best option ... see if they will discount it a bit. A smile and friendly attitude might just do it. If not, then find a new place. With no harsh words, no "word" will get around, and if the new place asks, all you have to do is say things couldn't be worked out, and you were worried about taking a complete loss again. You win.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 08, 2013 10:33 PM (FlRtG)

571 I don't want it to die, but I'm almost to the point where it can hit the house, & I'll sue them into a cardboard box on the sidewalk. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 09, 2013 02:28 AM (9MTZt) Hide posts from (9MTZt) There are some people who just *will not* stop stirring up shit until it is simply made impossible to continue. I hope you find a *clean* way to do that. People who do that their whole life tend to be *very* good at doing enough to piss you off but not enough to actually be seriously impeded by the consequences. Ultimately they are building a platform holding a ton of bricks over themselves, the only question is can you get them to bring it down on themselves without bringing it down on you as well.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 10:34 PM (qyfb5)

572 541 Thanks, cthulhu, for the perspective. Yes, if I pursue this, I want to keep from antagonizing them.

Posted by: Mindy at December 09, 2013 02:24 AM (GRLuN)

The trick is finding the real management. One time, I was sitting with my aunt, uncle, and grandma in a restaurant (Bob Evans?), and some stuff spilled on the floor in the gap in the counter between employee-land and customer-land.

Waitresses carefully stepped around it, busboys ran off to tables, leads glanced at it and looked away.....and then a nondescript older woman wearing regular street clothes showed up and started methodically cleaning it up. "Ahhh," thought I -- "management."

The guys on the hot seat, who can be creative and make a deal to get something done, are going to want to be good to you. Anyone else won't have the authority to get close.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 10:38 PM (T1005)

573 Heh I wish. But as Gushie pointed out when I called to tell her, the popos tend to not be amused by booby traps. Wouldn't that depend on whether or not they get to play with the boobies?

Posted by: Adriane... at December 08, 2013 10:39 PM (jdRXP)

574 Thanks, Arbalest. I'm embarrassed to say that the card expired Sept 1 and my next visit was this past week. Also, the amount was significantly less than $200. I'm "economically suboptimal" and a bit of a cheapskate. This membership is far and away the best deal in my little town, so the alternatives are not nearly as affordable. At this point, I'm thinking it may be better to just be more resourceful with my workouts (bodyweight exercises at the closest playground) and leave it at that until I strike it rich or at least strike it comfortable.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:42 PM (GRLuN)

575 Outside temp says 38 on our little transmitter widgets, Weather Underground says 29.8 -- take a wild guess as to which one I'm believing. Brrrr.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 10:45 PM (T1005)

576 Thanks, cthulhu. You painted a very effective picture.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:46 PM (GRLuN)

577 I'm "economically suboptimal" and a bit of a cheapskate. Posted by: Mindy at December 09, 2013 02:42 AM (GRLuN) Hide posts from (GRLuN) Did we send you a membership when you joined our club? Our card doesn't expire.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 10:46 PM (qyfb5)

578 Imports of oil and gas are falling, down 15 and 32 percent respectively in the last five years, improving the balance of trade and reducing the political leverage of such countries as Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be translating into lowered energy costs...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 08, 2013 10:46 PM (qDggV)

579 Outside temp says 38 on our little transmitter widgets, Weather Underground says 29.8 -- take a wild guess as to which one I'm believing. Brrrr. I believe in having another piece of chocolate cake ... no matter what the temperature outside ...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 08, 2013 10:47 PM (jdRXP)

580 23.7 degrees here. ironically the storm was last Thursday night, if it was tonight, the morning would be a Winter Wonderland.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 10:48 PM (qyfb5)

581 Merovign, there's a club? What do we lift, pints? And of course, I meant I'm a cheapskate by necessity, not temperament -- I try to squeeze as much value as I can from every dollar.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:48 PM (GRLuN)

582 558 Imports of oil and gas are falling, down 15 and 32 percent respectively in the last five years, improving the balance of trade and reducing the political leverage of such countries as Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be translating into lowered energy costs...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 09, 2013 02:46 AM (qDggV)

Yeah, all advanced products get cheaper when everyone is in an cave wearing old clothes and huddling around a small fire....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 10:49 PM (T1005)

583 Merovign, there's a club? What do we lift, pints? Posted by: Mindy at December 09, 2013 02:48 AM (GRLuN) Hide posts from (GRLuN) Whatever's free?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 08, 2013 10:50 PM (qyfb5)

584 I even pulled the Australian dendrobiums in. They are super hardy, but I couldn't face the risk of losing everything.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 10:53 PM (T1005)

585 Whatever's free? Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 09, 2013 02:50 AM (qyfb5) That's why I hang out here -- free entertainment.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:53 PM (GRLuN)

586 563 Merovign, there's a club?

What do we lift, pints?

Posted by: Mindy at December 09, 2013 02:48 AM (GRLuN) Hide posts from (GRLuN)

Whatever's free?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 09, 2013 02:50 AM (qyfb5)

Lifting pints doesn't sound too bad.....what's next?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 10:54 PM (T1005)

587 Â…free entertainmentÂ…. free legal advice, free home maintenance advice, free medical advice, free craft ideas, free musicÂ…. Seriously, this place is a goldmine! Thanks, all!

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 10:56 PM (GRLuN)

588 Dang. I forgot I've got chicken soup in the microwave ...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 08, 2013 10:57 PM (jdRXP)

589 Wouldn't that depend on whether or not they get to play with the boobies? I was thinking more along the lines of punji sticks, not something fun with my boobehs

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 08, 2013 10:57 PM (9MTZt)

590 free legal advice, free home maintenance advice, free medical advice, free craft ideas, free musicÂ…. Seriously, this place is a goldmine! Thanks, all! Posted by: Mindy at December 09, 2013 02:56 AM (GRLuN) And I assure you, all of that advice is worth every penny!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Somethingorother at December 08, 2013 11:00 PM (qyfb5)

591 Lifting pints doesn't sound too bad.....what's next? Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 02:54 AM (T1005) Ten minutes of bounding on the trampoline!

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 11:01 PM (GRLuN)

592 bebe's boobs destroy at December 09, 2013 02:57 AM (9MTZt) umm ... you could go to the pet store and get some blue footed boobies ... then give the popo some bread crumbs ...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 08, 2013 11:01 PM (jdRXP)

593 what's next? Then 20 leaping burpees! (Yes, that's the name of an exercise.)

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 11:07 PM (GRLuN)

594 what's next? but remember ... never play leapfrog with a unicorn ... Good Night, good people, Better tomorrows ...

Posted by: Adriane... at December 08, 2013 11:14 PM (jdRXP)

595 Then prep 2 section of Business Math for Monday! (The reason I am still up.) I'm just not a business person, and while I'm learning useful stuff by teaching this course, it just doesn't fascinate me like regular math. Good thing my students are interested in applying math this way or we'd have a drag of a class.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 11:15 PM (GRLuN)

596 Goodnight, Adriane!

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 11:15 PM (GRLuN)

597 Goodnight, Beloved Horde! I must sleep now.

Posted by: Mindy at December 08, 2013 11:17 PM (GRLuN)

598 So, a little excerpt from last night's Xmas party for BH's work.....

The head dude for her division (founder of the company) is chatting with us about the NC facility (which is run by the BH). He notes that there was someone whose hiring got crossways and had to come to California for training instead of sitting in a class in NC while a California trainer went there. And how he'd visited the site and that everyone was jealous because she'd actually gone to CA.

He specifically mentioned that it was her first time on an airplane coming out -- so I got to put him some knowledge. It was also her first time on an underground train (subway), her first time on a boat, and her first time on a cable car ['cause, where else are there cable cars?]. How did I know this? 'Cause I was drivin'.

Now, you could go ga-ga that a manager would take so much time squiring an employee around....or you could (more reasonably) say that we ran around SF doing public transportation to work off some excess BH energy and ensure "her guy" from NC had a good time.

It was very entertaining having the BH's top dude tell me how meaningful a somewhat mistranslated story was when I had been there to experience it.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 11:22 PM (T1005)

599 575 Then prep 2 section of Business Math for Monday! (The reason I am still up.)

I'm just not a business person, and while I'm learning useful stuff by teaching this course, it just doesn't fascinate me like regular math. Good thing my students are interested in applying math this way or we'd have a drag of a class.

Posted by: Mindy at December 09, 2013 03:15 AM (GRLuN)

I got an A in Business Math and only attended four sessions. One to get my class card; one for the midterm; one because I was in the neighborhood and dropped by -- and it ended up as the prof's birthday and a guy attended in the front row in a gorilla suit; and one for the final.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 08, 2013 11:25 PM (T1005)

600 Yeah, I've got the last two posts and a half-hour gap.....it's official, I killed the thread. Sorry 'bout that.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 12:08 AM (T1005)

601 "it's official, I killed the thread."

Here, I will save you the shame. Besides I haven't killed the ont lately at all.

Gotta keep up appearances.

Posted by: GMB Bucket (Thats pronounced Boukay dammit!) at December 09, 2013 12:16 AM (nkPV9)

602 Wait free stuff - like romance advice? okay - to the sole survivor of the thread:

580 - well, what time zone are you in? I have two questions if you would like to answer - if you are still awake or anyone else.

1 - If you are very good friends and almost in relationship but not crazy attracted to them physically (sex - but not tried yet ... with them), do you look past it physically and think that everyone will eventually be old and not as attractive - go forward - or stop and just be friends.

2 - firefox or chrome.

Thanks.

Posted by: jonathancollectsstamps at December 09, 2013 12:20 AM (5GPGm)

603 Besides killing the thread, I did a "turn off the lights" run on the other side of the house......during which I walked into a folding door sideways. I'm not sleepy enough to hit the sack immediately, but self-preservation is adding a vote.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 12:21 AM (T1005)

604 582 Wait free stuff - like romance advice? okay - to the sole survivor of the thread:

580 - well, what time zone are you in? I have two questions if you would like to answer - if you are still awake or anyone else.

1 - If you are very good friends and almost in relationship but not crazy attracted to them physically (sex - but not tried yet ... with them), do you look past it physically and think that everyone will eventually be old and not as attractive - go forward - or stop and just be friends.

2 - firefox or chrome.

Thanks.

Posted by: jonathancollectsstamps at December 09, 2013 04:20 AM (5GPGm)

1. I'm guessing that you're pretty young. If you're looking at a lifetime bond, then lifetime values are primary; if you're looking at a quick fuck, "disease-free" is "really deep, man".....

2. I'm getting to the point where I hate Google with the heat of a thousand suns, but it's up to you. I run Firefox with ABP.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 09, 2013 12:30 AM (T1005)

605 Is it time to call the coroner to the scene? Make it official?

Posted by: GMB Bucket (Thats pronounced Boukay dammit!) at December 09, 2013 12:44 AM (nkPV9)

606 585 GMB Bucket (Thats pronounced Boukay dammit!) at December 09, 2013 04:44 AM (nkPV9)

We can rebuild him!

//Oscar Goldman

Posted by: sven at December 09, 2013 01:09 AM (9jfyN)

607 Well it's about time for all the morning people to start showing up. We'll hold off on pronouncing the subject DOS.

Posted by: GMB Bucket (Thats pronounced Boukay dammit!) at December 09, 2013 01:16 AM (nkPV9)

608 http://tinyurl.com/q3rng3z

FoxNews, WI targets professional cuddlers...

I feel like Obama is cuddling with my colon....

Posted by: sven at December 09, 2013 01:20 AM (9jfyN)

609 We can rebuild him!

//Oscar Goldman

Posted by: sven at December 09, 2013 05:09 AM (9jfyN)

Better, faster...nah, it's fooked.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 09, 2013 01:23 AM (xa1/W)

610 Cuddle therapy?

WTFF???

Methinks some people need some slap to the back of the head therapy.

Or my favorite means of stress relief...RECOIL THERAPY!!!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 09, 2013 01:25 AM (xa1/W)

611 Good Lord, I drag in this late and the ONT is still limping along. Sorry I missed the 80's TV conversation as I did not see much during the 80's. Two overseas tours during the decade as a Platoon Sergeant in both left damn little time for what junk AFRTS carried!

Posted by: Old Dog at December 09, 2013 01:32 AM (tQYJH)

612 And now it's time for my bosses favorite activity...Back to work GGE, you slacker!

Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 09, 2013 01:38 AM (xa1/W)

613 Yo Guess I'm wayyyy late Anywho, best 80's show was alf

Posted by: Ncj at December 09, 2013 01:39 AM (dr6XJ)

614

I was stationed at Pearl Harbor in the 80s. Saw Tom Selleck twice in the flesh. Both times were at strip clubs.

I'm betting he was more HQ Moron than not.

Posted by: Ook? at December 09, 2013 01:42 AM (FBkKA)

615 ASPCA >>>>>>>>>> HSUS

Posted by: Y-not at December 09, 2013 02:43 AM (zDsvJ)

616 Wal-Mart tried to get into Chicago years ago. Every "group" in the city had demands that Wal-Mart had to meet. Unions wanted to set wages the stores would have to pay, politicians wanted pay-offs, every city government office wanted pay-offs, every race/so called oppressed group with a grievence wanted a pay-off. Wal-Mart finally said to hell with it and built a store in a suburb, were 80% of the applications were from people who lived in Chicago. And the town that they built in gets all the sales tax.

Posted by: Case at December 09, 2013 02:44 AM (tjj0w)

617 Is there no one that the Obama Administration can hire to make Michelle look respectable? Just saw the Kennedy Center thing and that teal dress. Egads. Posted by: Fritz at December 08, 2013 09:53 PM (TKFmG) _____________________ I never realized before how flat-chested she is. From the waist up, she looks like a 10-year old boy. No wonder Barry was attracted to her.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at December 09, 2013 02:56 AM (/sohm)

618 What I want to know is how did the smoking Muser in the white shoes and pants get from the bad tired car to overlooking it on the side of the road without a smudge?

Posted by: Herosmith at December 09, 2013 11:42 AM (F26eZ)

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