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April 13, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (13 April 2013)
— CDR M

Well my old laptop finally kicked the bucket today. I had to swap to my old desktop which of course didn't have all my links so I've patched something together as best I can. I guess all that Windows 8 discussion last night just might help guide my laptop purchase direction.

Well, we had a CME impact the Earth earlier tonight. Some aurora possibilities for you high latitude types.

Go here for a pretty cool animation of a CME and how it interacts with Earth. State of the Union

In other news, English teacher ask students for essay on "why Jews are evil". On a positive note, at least 1/3 of the class refused to do the assignment. I'm sure they'll be tagged for more reeducation in follow-on classes so they won't question authority again.
h/t Genghis

Military Projects

OK, not as sexy as a laser gun, but a nice capability to have. Navy builds DDG 1000 with next-generation precision gun.

The U.S. NavyÂ’s DDG 1000 next-generation land-attack destroyer is being engineered with a stealthy, precision strike Advanced Gun System (AGS) that can pinpoint land-targets with GPS precision at ranges up to 63-nautical miles,...

I still miss the 16 inch guns on the battleships.

Bell unveils third-gen tiltrotor concept, the V-280 Valor. I don't see where the military will get funding for this puppy.

Music Video

The cello rock band Break of Reality.

They just released their cover of the Game of Thrones opening theme. It is quite good.

The Power of Boobehs

Take note moronettes (although I'm pretty sure y'all knew this already). Victim recalls assailant's breasts, little else. Moral of the story: when in trouble, flash 'em.

The woman drove away after hitting the manÂ’s car at Haight and Cole streets at 5 p.m. Tuesday, said Park Station Officer Al Wu. The man couldnÂ’t tell officers what kind of car it was, let alone supply a license-plate number, but he Â“was able to give a detailed description of the suspectÂ’s cleavage,Â” police said.

So did they put out an APB for the breasts?

In related news, NYC has the co-ed topless pulp fiction appreciation society. Evidently they love to read outdoors and topless. NSFW (and a HuffPo link).

Lefties and Numbers

This explains Obama's budget BS. Left-handed people avoid using exact numbers.

Cat Video

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1 Frist!!!

Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 05:34 PM (8lmkt)

2 The average IQ is 100, which means that half the people in the country are intellectually below average. These are your registered dems.

Posted by: huerfano at April 13, 2013 05:35 PM (bAGA/)

3 Linking to white supremacist Steve Sailer's blog? Seriously?

Posted by: infovore at April 13, 2013 05:35 PM (0llFJ)

4 Stomped on again....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 05:35 PM (aDwsi)

5 Oh fucking pcs bummer about yours, I've been dealing with that shit @ work the past 2 weeks

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 05:36 PM (HVff2)

6 I forgot today's NASCAR race is the Sprint Cup NRA 500

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 13, 2013 05:36 PM (8sCoq)

7 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 13, 2013 05:36 PM (JMmQ9)

8 Joe Gibbs has won both NFL and Nascar titles. As coach and owner, respectively. Who else has won in multiple pro sports like that? Anyone?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 05:36 PM (ZPrif)

9 Mistah Jackson. {nods in a cordial way}

Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 05:36 PM (8lmkt)

10 He is? Oh shit.

Posted by: CDR M at April 13, 2013 05:37 PM (dKV5k)

11 Sailer isn't a white supremacist, dumbass. He's got a chinese wife, for one thing. Don't be a dumbass, dumbass.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 05:37 PM (ZPrif)

12 jeez you guys, now you're just reposting your comments from the last stinky thread?

Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 05:37 PM (8lmkt)

13 Miss Peaches {nods right back}

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 13, 2013 05:37 PM (JMmQ9)

14 Tonight's ONT comes pre-loaded with boobehs! Nice.

And my question from the previous thread...

Question for the tax and accountant morons:

Four years ago, I was awarded some company stock as an award. It was a 'restricted stock' meaning I had to wait 3 years before becoming fully vested and allowed to sell them. On the day of vesting last July, the company released the stocks and withheld a portion of them to pay for taxes, leaving me with about two-thirds of the amount of stock awarded to me.

The remaining shares left to me, I sold about fifteen days later when they reached a value that I instructed the brokerage to hold until it was reached.

My question:

I'm trying to figure out the 'cost basis' for my Turbo Tax stuff.

Is it the number of shares left to me on the day of vesting @ the market price of that day minus the price I sold them at fifteen days later? Or is it another figure?

My eternal thanks to the moron(s) that can help me out.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 05:37 PM (doBIb)

15 The police commander in charge of Margaret ThatcherÂ’s funeral on Wednesday has provoked outrage by condoning disrespectful demonstrations planned outside the ceremony. Metropolitan Police commander Christine Jones is also facing criticism for encouraging protesters to contact police if they want to stage demonstrations. Last night Baroness ThatcherÂ’s former press secretary Sir Bernard Ingham said the force was Â‘conniving at a display of bad tasteÂ’. http://goo.gl/X9Zg3

Posted by: waldo at April 13, 2013 05:38 PM (JmbIB)

16 What's going on with teachers these days? Oh yeah they are all lib bastards protracted by the mob, errr I mean unions

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 05:39 PM (HVff2)

17 So...AGS is in fact a gun launched rocket..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 05:39 PM (aDwsi)

18 Hypocrite: 'Cher loves Chaz to death, but she stopped talking to ~~him~~ her because they just donÂ’t see eye to eye on the very public way ~~heÂ’s~~ she's continued to deal with ~~his~~ her transformation,' a soruce told RadarOnline. http://goo.gl/ZNbGJ

Posted by: waldo at April 13, 2013 05:41 PM (JmbIB)

Today has been like Groundhog's thread.

Reposting , reposting , reposting from previous threads.

Posted by: seamrog at April 13, 2013 05:41 PM (Nbt0h)

20 Is CDRm a girl?

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 05:42 PM (Tete0)

21 18
Hypocrite:

'Cher loves Chaz to death, but she stopped talking to him her because they just donÂ’t see eye to eye on the very public way heÂ’s she's continued to deal with his her transformation,' a soruce told RadarOnline.

http://goo.gl/ZNbGJ
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Well..., that's pretty much all that Chaz haz

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 05:42 PM (aDwsi)

22 In some parts of the country (Philly for instance), due to stupidity, obesity, criminal records and lack of HS diploma, less than 10% of the military age population is even eligible for military service.

Posted by: Icedog at April 13, 2013 05:43 PM (9ScGj)

23 Evening Rons and Ettes. Does anybody have any idea what in the fuck happened with the Illinois GOP today???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 05:44 PM (GEICT)

24 Does anybody have any idea what in the fuck happened with the Illinois GOP today???

Watchu talkin' about, willis?

Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 05:45 PM (8lmkt)

25 Here's a pic of Barack and Michelle when they were just babies (gitchy gitchy goo):

http://tinyurl.com/c4wknb9

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 05:46 PM (BVkEs)

26 "Who else has won in multiple pro sports like that? Anyone?" "Bullet" Bob Hayes won an olympic gold medal and a superbowl ring. Only thing close that I can remember.

Posted by: Icedog at April 13, 2013 05:46 PM (9ScGj)

27 How NOT to Talk to People About Liberty Just because something can be justified according to theoretical libertarianism does not mean most people arenÂ’t going to recoil at what is being suggestedÂ… More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=1828

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2013 05:47 PM (Vk2pI)

28 Crossing a line there, Poe. Watch yourself.

Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 05:47 PM (8lmkt)

29 The only thing that needs to be said about Windows 8 is stay the fuck away from that steaming turd. It's crap to use and so dumbed down as to be almost useless on a PC. Find a copy of Windows 7, for the love of God; they're still out there.

You used an acronym that had 'ejection' in it. =P </puerile behaviour>

Posted by: Linlithgow at April 13, 2013 05:47 PM (Gim9y)

30 Rubio is on every one, every f*cking one, of those Sunday morning propaganda fests tomorrow, and if he does not take the opportunity to demand, with full passion and seriousness, that they discuss Gosnell with him, that while immigration needs fixing, THIS SILENCE ABOUT MURDER OF CHILDREN needs it more, then . . . . . . he is dead to me. Dead. He is almost there right now, and he has not even gone into makeup yet. But he has one chance. One. And he must do it ON EVERY SHOW.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at April 13, 2013 05:48 PM (PH+2B)

31 Looks like the Illinois GOP chair came out in support of gay marriage. Repubs then tried to oust him -- and failed. Party is split on the issue.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 05:48 PM (ZPrif)

32 So..., is this going to be an Affirmative Action Masters?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 05:48 PM (aDwsi)

33 > "Who else has won in multiple pro sports like that? Anyone?" Robert Wagner nailed Natalie Wood AND Jill St John he is The King Of Everything in my book

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 13, 2013 05:48 PM (8sCoq)

34 Watchu talkin' about, willis? Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 09:45 PM (8lmkt) Supposedly some of the more conservative members of the IL GOP were going to attempt to oust the current chairman. Things....went south. Fast. And bad. Chairman called cops. Had people forcibly removed and locked out. This is all according to twitter.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 05:48 PM (GEICT)

42 second clip about tax time for anyone that needs it.

http://tinyurl.com/248gxo7

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 13, 2013 05:49 PM (AC0lD)

36 31 Looks like the Illinois GOP chair came out in support of gay marriage. Repubs then tried to oust him -- and failed. Party is split on the issue. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 09:48 PM
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Well..., you wouldn't want them to lose votes, would you?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 05:49 PM (aDwsi)

37 Yeah, google illinois gop. Just fuckin' fabulous. You know, I have no problem with gay people. I know a lot of 'em, like many of them, go ahead, be as gay as you want. Have domestic partnerships, have civil unions. I am against gay marriage. Now I have another reason to part ways with the GOP. Like I needed another one.

Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 05:51 PM (8lmkt)

38 27-Eighth grader?

Posted by: nip at April 13, 2013 05:52 PM (lGVXf)

39 Take-away quote from "Quotes of the Day" at Hot Air: The MSM is no longer in control; anyone and everyone now has the tools to call the media out and if the story is hot and compelling enough (and the trial of an accused multiple baby killer passes that test with ease), it will force itself into the national conversation. Good. Bwa .... hahahahahahahahaha ... ... cue Journey ("Don't stop Believin' ") ...

Posted by: Arbalest at April 13, 2013 05:52 PM (6if9x)

Thanks for the "back-up computer" ONT tonight CDR. Hey there boys and girls. What's shakin'?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 05:52 PM (pxDth)

41 Students who said they sent more than 100 text messages per day were reportedly 30 percent less likely to concern themselves with living ethical lives, researchers Â– including Dr. Paul Trapnell and Dr. Lisa Sinclair Â– were said to have observed. On the other hand, those who said they sent 50 text messages or less were far more likely to care about living principled lives.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 13, 2013 05:52 PM (e8kgV)

42 Robert Wagner nailed Natalie Wood AND Jill St John

he is The King Of Everything in my book

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 13, 2013 09:48 PM (8sCoq)

At least he didn't kill jill

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 05:52 PM (HqXYa)

43 Took my son to the local sandwich shop for lunch....TV was playing CNN for the 20-25 minutes we were there. They devoted the whole time to the trial....the Arias murder trial. rat scum

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at April 13, 2013 05:53 PM (XvrTA)

44 #3

Asking questions that make commies uncomfortable is a far stretch from being a white supremacist.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 05:53 PM (kcfmt)

45 Gen 3 tilt-rotor looks cool as shit.

Too bad about not having the money.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 05:53 PM (doBIb)

46 In related news, NYC has the co-ed topless pulp fiction appreciation society. Evidently they love to read outdoors and topless. NSFW (and a HuffPo link). Why do I have the sudden urge to pick up a book and join a book club now?

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2013 05:53 PM (Vk2pI)

47 Any responses to #14?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 05:54 PM (doBIb)

48 So we have proven we can force the media to cover -- a serial killer who stabs babies in the head and keeps their severed body parts as trophies. And it only took us several years(!!) to do it. Not exactly proof we can shame the media into covering what we want.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 05:54 PM (ZPrif)

49 Helio Castroneves is a championship Indy race car driver who also won Dancing with the Stars. So there's that.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 05:54 PM (pxDth)

50 Well..., that's pretty much all that Chaz haz Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 09:42 PM (aDwsi) Cher is worth around $360 million. Unless she cuts her daughter out of her will, Chaz will have quite a bit.

Posted by: waldo at April 13, 2013 05:55 PM (JmbIB)

51 Good Evening to all !!!!! I hope all in the Horde are having a wonderful evening !!! Yay ONT !!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 05:55 PM (HbuYa)

52 48 EC Ask Cthulhu when he arrives ... he might be able to provide more than one good answer.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 13, 2013 05:55 PM (6if9x)

53 31 Looks like the Illinois GOP chair came out in support of gay marriage. Repubs then tried to oust him -- and failed. Party is split on the issue. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 09:48 PM (ZPrif) Exactly why gay marriage is so important to Democrats.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 05:56 PM (wk9P4)

54 Hi grumpy momma bear.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 05:57 PM (pxDth)

55 Helio Castroneves is a championship Indy race car driver who also won Dancing with the Stars. So there's that.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 09:54 PM (pxDth)

At least he had the good sense not to marry Ashley Judd

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 05:57 PM (HqXYa)

56 Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 13, 2013 09:52 PM (e8kgV) Sounds like instance #1,325,562,189 of Correlation Is Not Causation.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 05:57 PM (GEICT)

57 ONT TIME WOOO 27: you should recoil at libertarians, not all of there ideas.

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 05:57 PM (aPAIU)

58 I'm a bit of a SOCON, but we really need to kill this homo marriage (aka, a dem political distraction) issue before 2014. Sadly, half the country will base their vote entirely on this type of bullshit.

Posted by: Icedog at April 13, 2013 05:57 PM (9ScGj)

59 Yeah, next gen V-22 looks bad-ass. Not even scheduled to be fielded till mid 2030s at the earliest.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 05:58 PM (ZPrif)

60 Ask Cthulhu when he arrives ... he might be able to provide more than one good answer.

*prays to the Great Old Ones to arrive and help with a tax question*

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 05:58 PM (doBIb)

61 47: i suggest a doorstopper

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 05:58 PM (aPAIU)

62 Not exactly proof we can shame the media into covering what we want. **** They just realized they would get more traffic from the rubbernecking bible thumpers if they said something. Not to worry, they know their progressive clientele will ignore it still or hate blacks even more than they already do. The rest of the lot can't read so it's a win/win.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 13, 2013 05:59 PM (MhA4j)

63 One of my favorite chuckles in the identity politics vein was when Warren Beatty's transgendered child accused Chaz Bono of being a "misogynist", seriously...that's funny to me...like trying to figure out complicated algebra in your head

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at April 13, 2013 06:00 PM (XvrTA)

64 All presidents since Carter have been left handed (carter was right handed)

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:00 PM (aPAIU)

65 Sorry to continue the re-posting, but we're trying to round up all the ettes and lurking ettes. ettes and lurking ettes!!!!!!!! Read this! Public Service Announcement. Any/all ettes and lurking ettes who craft or homeschool are invited to come join the Horde'ette group on ravelry.com it's called 'ettes of the moron horde. Make a free account on ravelry then search groups for the above name and join it. Ravelry is a knitting site, but you don't have to knit to join. We'll have threads for knitting, sewing, crafting, teaching/homeschooling, writing. whatever has interest. If you don't know if you belong, just come join. Now back to your regularly scheduled jackassery/grab assery

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:01 PM (qPCAa)

66 Good evening, all. I brought some Margarita Shrimp to share -- use your fingers if you like. Yes, the recipe calls for tequila.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 06:01 PM (wk9P4)

67 At least he had the good sense not to marry Ashley Judd Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 09:57 PM *** That was some gay Italian driver. Not the macho Senor Castroneves.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 13, 2013 06:02 PM (MhA4j)

68 66 All presidents since Carter have been left handed (carter was right handed) Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 10:00 PM (aPAIU) ]/i] W is right handed according to Wiki.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:02 PM (GEICT)

69 I dont think Reagan was left handed

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:02 PM (HqXYa)

70 28 Crossing a line there, Poe. Watch yourself.

---

What line would that be?

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 06:02 PM (BVkEs)

71 All presidents since Carter have been left handed (carter was right handed) Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 10:00 PM (aPAIU) Clearly a sinister plot against the right...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2013 06:02 PM (Vk2pI)

72 LA now has a bordello featuring a striptease of Imperial Stormtroopers

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:03 PM (aPAIU)

73 Blah Blah Blah Blah, another empty chamber of comments by Da Clique...

Posted by: clemenza at April 13, 2013 06:03 PM (vbT8h)

74 66 All presidents since Carter have been left handed (carter was right handed) Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 10:00 PM (aPAIU) Is that true? Only 15% of the population are lefties....to get five in row in the WH has to be some long odds.

Posted by: Icedog at April 13, 2013 06:03 PM (9ScGj)

75 71 I dont think Reagan was left handed Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 10:02 PM (HqXYa) Ambidextrous

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:03 PM (GEICT)

76 That was some gay Italian driver. Not the macho Senor Castroneves.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 13, 2013 10:02 PM (MhA4j)

Actually Dario Franchitti is a Scot. Still no reason why he didn't make a haggis out of her

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:04 PM (HqXYa)

77 Clearly a sinister plot against the right...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2013 10:02 PM (Vk2pI)

******

You handled that quite dextrously!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 06:04 PM (pxDth)

78 Yup in spite of our nation's continuing ride to ruin on the runaway train wreck , it is a nice evening here in the Great State of Texas !!!! God Bless Texas !!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 06:04 PM (HbuYa)

79 Actually Dario Franchitti is a Scot. Still no reason why he didn't make a haggis out of her

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 10:04 PM (HqXYa)

*******

Just wondering- A Scotsman driving at 180 mph might catch a little draft up the old kilt, eh?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 06:05 PM (pxDth)

80 "The woman drove away after hitting the man’s car at Haight and Cole streets at 5 p.m. Tuesday, said Park Station Officer Al Wu. The man couldn’t tell officers what kind of car it was, let alone supply a license-plate number, but he “was able to give a detailed description of the suspect’s cleavage,” police said." The only new information here is that women still can't drive. Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 13, 2013 06:06 PM (Ablm9)

81 About half the stories I put out on Twitter are public school malpractice pieces. Ugh

Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 06:06 PM (I2LwF)

82 Just wondering- A Scotsman driving at 180 mph might catch a little draft up the old kilt, eh?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 10:05 PM (pxDth)

If you're married to Ashley Judd, there's nothing left under the kilt

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:06 PM (HqXYa)

83 But Elizabethe will there be tea and cucumber sandwiches??

Sent you an email on your story. Hope it helps.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:07 PM (rYImi)

84 W used his left hand to wave only. W stands for Weirdo

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:08 PM (aPAIU)

85 F*ck, just heard the patio furniture blow away.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 06:08 PM (gqEUi)

86 Canada and Britain don't have very many southpaw executives

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:09 PM (aPAIU)

87 Most of those co-eds aren't reading, or even holding, a book.

I looked very closely to be sure.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 13, 2013 06:09 PM (ccXZP)

88 ufc chick fight on now

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 06:09 PM (ZPrif)

89 Elizabethe, thanks for the invite! I'm signed up, but haven't contributed yet.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 06:10 PM (wk9P4)

90 Franchitti divorced Ashley Judd. I don't blame him.

Posted by: puddleglum at April 13, 2013 06:10 PM (15w2J)

91 87 F*ck, just heard the patio furniture blow away.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 10:08 PM (gqEUi)

******

Heh- yeah Infidel- keep your bloomers battened down. It's howling like the proverbial banshee here. Probably some 40-50 mph gusts. The Muldoggy has his head under a pillow.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 06:10 PM (pxDth)

92 But Elizabethe will there be tea and cucumber sandwiches?? Sent you an email on your story. Hope it helps. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 10:07 PM (rYImi) lemon bars and mint juleps. I got it thanks, very thought provoking.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:10 PM (qPCAa)

93 Have domestic partnerships, have civil unions.
Peaches at April 13, 2013 09:51 PM (8lmkt)

Exactly. If (most) of the GOP came out and said, 'civil partnerships at the state level' and leave it at that we'd effectively take the sword out of the Dem's hands.

I'm not a fan of gay marriage, although I have no problem with gays (and have teh gay friends), but redefining marriage and opening the door for FLDS & Islam to say 'pony up with the polygamy', and offer the govt more of a chance to fuck with religion, no thank you. So let's settle on something civil that is far less damaging and move on to the BIG problems, instead of gay marriage which the Dems are using to distract from the important issues, despite the fact that it affects only 3% of the population. Make those fuckers dance.

Posted by: Linlithgow at April 13, 2013 06:10 PM (Gim9y)

94 Funny, statistics show that lefties are over-represented in the ranks of both geniuses and serial killers

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:11 PM (HqXYa)

95 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handedness_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 06:11 PM (kcfmt)

96 Ambidextrous Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 10:03 PM (GEICT) my three year old seems to be somewhat ambidextrous. He switches a lot between hands for coloring and using scissors and things. I wonder if he will settle into one.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:12 PM (qPCAa)

97 Canada and Britain don't have very many southpaw executives Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 10:09 PM (aPAIU) Prove it or go away.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 06:12 PM (K+I6z)

98 ICYMI: the triple play during the Yankees / Orioles game was impressive. First time in baseball history there's been a triple play turned 4-6-5-6-5-3-4. link in my nick

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 13, 2013 06:12 PM (JMmQ9)

Can you even imagine the horrific scenes at the selective service boards if this were 1943?

I imagine that the selective service boards wouldn't have cared as much about a petty criminal record, and would have told the obese to get used to running because their fat asses were going to be whipped into shape.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:13 PM (lr3d7)

100 99: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handedness_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:13 PM (aPAIU)

101 Actor Chuck Connors (the Rifleman) played pro major league baseball, basketball and football. That's even better in my book.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 13, 2013 06:13 PM (7gL/N)

102 Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 13, 2013 10:12 PM (JMmQ9) That made my head hurt.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 06:14 PM (K+I6z)

103 Mint juleps? Why I declare.... you hear me?? Must be in the South..

I just hope it helps you and not needlessly muddy the waters.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:14 PM (rYImi)

104 Momma Bear, sounds like you are having a nice spring.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 06:14 PM (wk9P4)

105 73 All presidents since Carter have been left handed (carter was right handed)

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 10:00 PM (aPAIU)

Heard this on Medved's show on one of the (rare) occasions I listened to him and it didn't seem correct. Bush recently started painting and I saw a picture of him doing it and he was using a brush with his right hand (the picture couldn't have been reversed somehow, because there was no wedding ring on the hand he was using). So either he is ambidextrous or right handed.

Posted by: Linlithgow at April 13, 2013 06:16 PM (Gim9y)

106 my three year old seems to be somewhat ambidextrous. He switches a lot between hands for coloring and using scissors and things. I wonder if he will settle into one.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 10:12 PM (qPCAa)

Don't send him to Catholic school. The nuns beat my ass and threatened me with internal damnation if I didn't go righty. I was in first grade. My mother, in a rare act of assertiveness, put and end to it

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:16 PM (HqXYa)

107

Exactly. If (most) of the GOP came out and said, 'civil partnerships at the state level' and leave it at that we'd effectively take the sword out of the Dem's hands.

It wouldn't work. We tried this in several states and the Left didn't care and managed to play the incrementalism game. They "accepted" the compromise, and then immediately used it to push for full marriages.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:17 PM (lr3d7)

108 my three year old seems to be somewhat ambidextrous. He switches a lot between hands for coloring and using scissors and things. I wonder if he will settle into one. Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 10:12 PM (qPCAa) My dad is fairly ambidextrous. Writes left, hits baseball or golfball right, eats with left, any sort of detail art type work he does he does with the right....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:17 PM (GEICT)

109 11 Sailer isn't a white supremacist, dumbass. He's got a chinese wife, for one thing. Don't be a dumbass, dumbass.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 09:37 PM (ZPrif) Looks like he took the link away.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2013 06:17 PM (D00cy)

110 It wouldn't work. We tried this in several states and the Left didn't care and managed to play the incrementalism game. They "accepted" the compromise, and then immediately used it to push for full marriages.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:17 PM (lr3d7)

Like in California.

Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2013 06:17 PM (LI48c)

111 107: he uses his left hand for some activities (waving, hand shaking, tennis) while he uses his right to write, paint, and fap

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:18 PM (aPAIU)

112 Colorado Alex, how's things? Someday my husband and I are going to look you up when we are in your area and see if you are available for a visit.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 06:18 PM (wk9P4)

113 Peaches, why do you think a funny photoshop of Barack and Michelle as babies is crossing a line?

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 06:18 PM (BVkEs)

114 hi all
long day at the zoo

EC: if it's a fair amount of money you're talking about, it might be worth it to get some professional advice

Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 06:18 PM (BBWjt)

115 113 107: he uses his left hand for some activities (waving, hand shaking, tennis) while he uses his right to write, paint, and fap Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 10:18 PM (aPAIU) Who the hell shakes hands with their left hand?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:19 PM (GEICT)

116 108: that isn't official policy anymore

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:19 PM (aPAIU)

117 'internal damnation' from Catholic school? You got a lot of detention? Which proves being a lefty lead to your eternal damnation.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:19 PM (rYImi)

118 117: Obama does as well. It means I think of you as equal to my poop in many countries

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:19 PM (aPAIU)

119 One of my favorite chuckles in the identity politics vein was when Warren Beatty's transgendered child accused Chaz Bono of being a "misogynist", seriously...that's funny to me...like trying to figure out complicated algebra in your head

***

Damn it! I'm going to have to buy a program to keep my hate speech straight.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 13, 2013 06:20 PM (VlXYw)

120 BCochran, when you meet on the field of honor or just greeting someone on the road.

To shake hands requires the right hand. But a lefty can shake with his right and still kill you. Sinistra aka Sinister thus arose.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:20 PM (rYImi)

121 Good evening morons, I'm back home from a day of drinking and firearms, alas, not in that order.

Posted by: toby928© at April 13, 2013 06:20 PM (QupBk)

122 121: I'm getting woozy

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:20 PM (aPAIU)

123 98 My daughter is the same way. I've heard different teachers/therapists (my girl has developmental delays) say different things about whether you should try to push kids to use one hand or let them use both. Apparently it's very controversial.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 13, 2013 06:21 PM (GmTxn)

124

My dad is fairly ambidextrous. Writes left, hits baseball or golfball right, eats with left, any sort of detail art type work he does he does with the right....

I'm the same way. Thank God I'm right eye dominant, since it made marksmanship training in basic that much easier.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:21 PM (lr3d7)

125 123: It is why you are still around, no?

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:21 PM (aPAIU)

126 Toby. Shoot first. Then drink. The Viking Way.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:21 PM (rYImi)

127 Classic Mint Julep recipe:

1. take 4-5 fresh mint leaves and add to a glass with 1 tablespoon of sugar. Muddle mixture with pestle.
2. fill a highball glass with ice and good bourbon.
3. throw out the shit in step 1 and drink the bourbon
4. Rinse. Repeat.

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:21 PM (HqXYa)

128 I just assumed that there was pretty much a permanent APB on boobies.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 13, 2013 06:21 PM (VlXYw)

129 #107

I'm left-handed but I don't do everything with my left hand. I write with the left but throw with the right.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 06:21 PM (kcfmt)

130 120 117: Obama does as well. It means I think of you as equal to my poop in many countries Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 10:19 PM (aPAIU) Yes it does. But I've seen no proof that either of them do that. It would be utterly bizarre and awkward.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:21 PM (GEICT)

131

Here's my 'feel good' story for the week. A precocious six-year-old was having an ultrasound. While I was watching the technician do the test, the girl asked me how that stick thingy with the jelly on it made the pictures. I tried using my best age-appropriate explanation of sound coming out of the microphone only not even dogs can hear this sound, and then it bounces off your insides like when you yell in the mountains and hear your voice come back, and then it goes back into the computer and it makes the picture.

She looked at me like I was crazy, so I said, "But some people say it is about 80% magic."

Behind me, I heard her mother's voice from the darkened room, dryly, "Yeah, and the other 20% is baloney."

Can't argue with her there.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 06:21 PM (pxDth)

132 Who the hell shakes hands with their left hand? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 10:19 PM (GEICT) I'm a lefty and hold everything in my right hand/ arm. If I'm in a shaking-hands situation I stick out my left hand and explain why. As for Alex, I'd like to smack him upside the head. With my left hand, of course.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at April 13, 2013 06:22 PM (K+I6z)

133 I am absolutely right dominant. The only quick activity (short dextrous bursts) I can do with my left hand is typing, and even then my right hand is both better and more mobile.

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:23 PM (aPAIU)

134 I'm the same way. Thank God I'm right eye dominant, since it made marksmanship training in basic that much easier. Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:21 PM (lr3d7) Yeah, I'm a little screwed. I'm utterly left hand dominant, but recently realized that I'm right eye dominant. Which would explain the struggles at the range.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:23 PM (GEICT)

135 134: umm, why?

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:23 PM (aPAIU)

136 I read before that it was possible that the Northern Lights might be seen as far south as Washington DC

Anybody 38 degrees N or more seen anything tonight?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 06:23 PM (mCvL4)

137 what did you shoot?

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 06:23 PM (Tete0)

138 Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 10:18 PM (BBWjt) yay! zoo! You teased earlier. what did you see that was especially cool?

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:23 PM (qPCAa)

139 My daughter is the same way. I've heard different teachers/therapists (my girl has developmental delays) say different things about whether you should try to push kids to use one hand or let them use both. Apparently it's very controversial.

Mustn't judge a cross-dressing eight year old, but if some kid finger paints with both hands, start a learning plan.

Posted by: fluffy at April 13, 2013 06:23 PM (z9HTb)

140 I don't know about eye dominance on my part though I would suspect right. I am right footed

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:24 PM (aPAIU)

141

Like in California.

Bingo. The left also likes to play the game where they say, "Gee, since gays aren't monogamous then the recognition of gay marriage means that society needs to rethink its obsession with monogamy." When the Right points this out they get insulted and exclaim, "That's absurd! No one is suggesting that! How dare you?!"

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:24 PM (lr3d7)

142 'internal damnation' from Catholic school? You got a lot of detention? Which proves being a lefty lead to your eternal damnation.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 10:19 PM (rYImi)

I can't type. but I was threatened with internal damnation when they threatened to shove one of their thick, rubber tipped pointers up my ass if I didn't conform

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:24 PM (HqXYa)

143 138: nothing here in Lincoln

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:24 PM (aPAIU)

144

I'm sensing a strong tide of dextronormative attitudes here tonight.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 06:25 PM (pxDth)

145 Mindy! I'm doing well. If you're ever planning to come down this way give me a holler and we'll work something out. Not too soon, hopefully, since work has me slammed for the next month and a half.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:25 PM (lr3d7)

146 That is not internal damnation, that would be an internal perforation of your rectum...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:25 PM (rYImi)

147 146: that is mean to us Vanilla Wafer otherkin

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:25 PM (aPAIU)

148 148: that sounds so much worse

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:26 PM (aPAIU)

149 BTW, am I the only one who thinks rotary wing pilots should wear propeller beanies as part of their dress uniform?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:26 PM (lr3d7)

150 151: you were but now I want to see that

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:26 PM (aPAIU)

151 115 Peaches, why do you think a funny photoshop of Barack and Michelle as babies is crossing a line?
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 10:18 PM

Don't be surprised if Maet zaps it.

I didn't find it funny, and it could get the blog in trouble

Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 06:27 PM (mCvL4)

152 Mindy, yay. I lurk, have you read my post 67?

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:27 PM (qPCAa)

153 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2013 10:17 PM (D00cy) That's an odd hash.

Posted by: zsasz at April 13, 2013 06:27 PM (MMC8r)

154

Posted by: Peaches at April 13, 2013 09:37 PM (8lmkt)

Ooooh Peeeeaaaches. Come to Ravelry and play with the rest of the 'Ettes.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 06:27 PM (wbeNt)

155 elizabethe, the jellyfish were especially cool

Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 06:27 PM (BBWjt)

156 142 I don't know about eye dominance on my part though I would suspect right. I am right footed

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 10:24 PM (aPAIU)

******

Hold your hands out in front of you at arms length, forming a one inch triangle with your thumbs and index fingers. With both eyes open, look through that triangle at an object across the room (light switch e.g.). Alternately close one eye, then the other, whichever eye you are looking through the triangle to the target object is your dominant eye.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 06:28 PM (pxDth)

157 what did you shoot? Me? I finally got to shot my new to me commie pistols in 9X18M. The Czech 82's were everything people said they were, lightish double action, fairly good recoil and accurate at the 30 yards I shot them at. The Polish 64s were very consistent but snappy. Not super fun to shoot. The SA trigger was the lightest I've ever fired I think. The DA is ridiculously bad. It's like one of those spring grip strengtheners.

Posted by: toby928© at April 13, 2013 06:28 PM (QupBk)

158 I had the public school version on handedness -- the teacher in first grade would whap my left hand with a ruler when she caught a pencil or crayon there. So I write right handed. In fact, for most of my fine motor skill activities I use the right.

Left handed golfer, bowler, thrower, shooter........also left foot and left eye dominant.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 13, 2013 06:28 PM (ccXZP)

159 elizabethe, the jellyfish were especially cool Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 10:27 PM (BBWjt) didn't you get the memo? You're supposed to call them "jellies" now. Because, you know, not fish (at least, that's what they told me at the Baltimore Aquarium). Also starfish are now seastars. That's awesome! I dig jellies.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:29 PM (qPCAa)

160 Non-Catholic school students of my age cohort think we make up/exaggerate these stories. we don't

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:29 PM (HqXYa)

161 I dusted one pistola, checked on her oil, then lubed the mini 14.

I trust they will both go off when I say, no need to test.

Why so much trying of arms, I am confident, the Lord is on my side.

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 06:29 PM (Tete0)

162 Prom night. My house is the after party hangout. I'm going to try to not kill any teenagers.

Posted by: NCKate at April 13, 2013 06:29 PM (J/Yaf)

163 137 134: umm, why? Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 10:23 PM (aPAIU) First off, the George W. Bush statement was ridiculous. Furthermore, you haven't proved your statement about Canadians and Brits. If you think I'm taking things too literally, perhaps I am, but I don't have enough chocolate around to deal with it.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (good grief, I'm a grump) at April 13, 2013 06:29 PM (K+I6z)

164 Good evening morons, I'm back home from a day of drinking and firearms, alas, not in that order. Posted by: toby928Â© at April 13, 2013 10:20 PM (QupBk) All you need is a fine cigar to make it an ATF night.

Posted by: Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms at April 13, 2013 06:29 PM (Vk2pI)

165 So this is where Ace got the time machine??

http://youtu.be/fj-857Q_zEU

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:30 PM (rYImi)

166
Interesting tidbit from Fox News the other day, seems the Marine Corps is going back to the 1911.

Can't find a better sidearm than John Browning's little gem.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 13, 2013 06:30 PM (SAMxH)

167 158: holy crap that works really well. I am right eye dominant

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:30 PM (aPAIU)

168 Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 10:27 PM (qPCAa) That's what I get for not checking further into the thread. Yeah, what elizabethe said, Peaches.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 06:30 PM (wbeNt)

169 Hold your hands out in front of you at arms length, forming a one inch triangle with your thumbs and index fingers. With both eyes open, look through that triangle at an object across the room (light switch e.g.). Alternately close one eye, then the other, whichever eye you are looking through the triangle to the target object is your dominant eye. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 10:28 PM (pxDth) I am left eye dominant. I think. I can't even close my left eye all by itself.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:30 PM (qPCAa)

170 68 ---"I brought some Margarita Shrimp..." Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 10:01 PM (wk9P4) ------------------- Damn. THAT's where my shrimp went. I thought the boy ate 'em.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 13, 2013 06:31 PM (C8mVl)

171 157 elizabethe, the jellyfish were especially cool
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 10:27 PM

Here's some cool jellyfish along with Blind Faith's "Sea of Joy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeqMGFJftrs

Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 06:31 PM (mCvL4)

172 elizabethe, my grumpy self has indeed read your post at #67! Turns out I don't have a Ravelry account although I should do something about it.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (good grief, I'm a grump) at April 13, 2013 06:31 PM (K+I6z)

173
I lurk, GHW Bush is a lefty--W is right handed.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 13, 2013 06:31 PM (SAMxH)

174 no northern lights here, just outside the wire of The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor then again, my window faces South

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 13, 2013 06:32 PM (JMmQ9)

175 This link shows the extent of the visible aurora http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/pmapN.html

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 13, 2013 06:32 PM (8sCoq)

176 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 13, 2013 06:32 PM (97oEa)

177 lemon bars and mint juleps. So you'll be bringing dessert to NoVAMoMee, then? Excellent. One less thing to think about. ;-)!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 13, 2013 06:32 PM (3IrSf)

178 Ok, I'm kind of sympathetic to the teacher in the story above. Reading through the article and the link, it looks like the kids were covering the Great Depression and WWII in their history class, while going over rhetoric and persuasion in their English class. The teacher tried to integrate the lessons and didn't fully think it through. Was it stupid? Yeah, it was at least a little stupid. However, at least the teacher was trying to get kids to think about how we express arguments and to think critically about what they hear.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:32 PM (lr3d7)

179 Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:25 PM (lr3d7) Just want to make sure we catch up to you before you leave the state as you have threatened.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 06:33 PM (wk9P4)

180

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 13, 2013 10:28 PM (ccXZP)

The less painful way to determine that is to lace your fingers together comfortably. Which ever thumb is on top is your dominate hand. As in. I'm honestly right handed but left hand dominate. Indecisive? No, why do you ask?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 06:33 PM (wbeNt)

181 Prom night. My house is the after party hangout. I'm going to try to not kill any teenagers.

Posted by: NCKate at April 13, 2013 10:29 PM (J/Yaf)

Well at least there won't be any back-seat fornicating on your watch. I know teenage boys. Hell, I WAS a teenage boy. I don't want my daughter anywhere near someone like me at 17.

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:33 PM (HqXYa)

182 anyone familiar with the Motorola Droid Razr?

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 13, 2013 06:33 PM (8sCoq)

183 Hey, some people on Twitter need to start referring to Thatcher protestors as 'funeral hooligans.' Somebody get that started for me.

Posted by: zsasz at April 13, 2013 06:33 PM (MMC8r)

184 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 13, 2013 10:32 PM (97oEa)

Hey! Are you a tax moron? Any help on #14?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 06:34 PM (doBIb)

185 So you'll be bringing dessert to NoVAMoMee, then? Excellent. One less thing to think about. ;-)!! Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 13, 2013 10:32 PM (3IrSf) I thought desert was going to be the same as the appetizers and main course.....booze....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:34 PM (GEICT)

186 Happy-ish Sat Evening -

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 06:34 PM (TvO05)

187

That English assignment "Why Jews are Evil" doesn't seem like a bad idea to me. If you want to understand the Nazis, propaganda, and how other people can be dehumanized, you have to learn what Nazis thought and taught in school.

Posted by: Sea Monster at April 13, 2013 06:34 PM (nYENA)

188

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (good grief, I'm a grump) at April 13, 2013 10:31 PM (K+I6z)

Yes, yes you should get an account. It'll be a place to hang out with people you like and *not* talk about politics.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 06:35 PM (wbeNt)

189

Just want to make sure we catch up to you before you leave the state as you have threatened.

No worries I'm not leaving any time soon. Perhaps in 3-4 years, after I get a masters degree.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:35 PM (lr3d7)

190 106 Momma Bear, sounds like you are having a nice spring. Thanks , we are still a a bad drought so , if Any of the Horde Has Any Rain they would like to send here to North Texas , we would Appreciate it !!!!!! I do love the Beautiful Blue Big Sky but I would be alittle less Grumpy with Lots of Beautiful Rain 🐻

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 06:35 PM (HbuYa)

191 Toby, you like the new electronic tracking sites, aim dot etc?

I love em since they have next to 0 parallax, the better ones anyway (500.00++).

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 06:35 PM (Tete0)

192 Posted by: irongrampa at April 13, 2013 10:31 PM (SAMxH) Thanks. Since I'm a big grump, I think I'm going to remove myself from the vicinity and hope the Edmonton Oilers do something useful tonight. And I'll check my chocolate stockpile... Goodnight, all!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (good grief, I'm a grump) at April 13, 2013 06:35 PM (K+I6z)

193 Damn. THAT's where my shrimp went. I thought the boy ate 'em. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 13, 2013 10:31 PM (C8mVl) Well, help yourself! I made plenty!

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 06:35 PM (wk9P4)

194 Ombudsman, sadly from what I see as the mother of a teenage boy, there are some crazy teenage girls that I'm trying to keep away.

Posted by: NCKate at April 13, 2013 06:35 PM (J/Yaf)

195 I thought desert was going to be the same as the appetizers and main course.....booze.... For you and me, yeah. But we have some of them there high society types too. They demand dessert.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 13, 2013 06:36 PM (3IrSf)

196 I lurk, hope you have a good evening and your case of the grumps goes away.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 06:36 PM (wk9P4)

197 For you and me, yeah. But we have some of them there high society types too. They demand dessert. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 13, 2013 10:36 PM (3IrSf) We're Morons. Bar cherries should cover it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:37 PM (GEICT)

198 Excellent. One less thing to think about. ;-)!! Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 13, 2013 10:32 PM (3IrSf) dammit. Okay, If I can manage it, I will bring some awesome lemon bars. but I'm not sure I will make it at this point. I may have to just offer to lead a zoo outing the next day.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:37 PM (qPCAa)

199 So, do I stay here with the imaginary friends in my computer, or go out for a drink and hope the cute bartender is working tonight?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:37 PM (lr3d7)

200 180 Ok, I'm kind of sympathetic to the teacher in the story above. Reading through the article and the link, it looks like the kids were covering the Great Depression and WWII in their history class, while going over rhetoric and persuasion in their English class. The teacher tried to integrate the lessons and didn't fully think it through. Was it stupid? Yeah, it was at least a little stupid. However, at least the teacher was trying to get kids to think about how we express arguments and to think critically about what they hear.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:32 PM (lr3d7)

So not an evil anti-semitic bitch, but just incredibly stupid.

Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2013 06:37 PM (LI48c)

201 164 Prom night. My house is the after party hangout. I'm going to try to not kill any teenagers. Oh prayers on the way !!!!! God Bless You and keep you safe and sane tonight !!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 06:38 PM (HbuYa)

202 Goodnight, all! Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (good grief, I'm a grump) at April 13, 2013 10:35 PM (K+I6z) goodnight I lurk. try a Vosges bacon chocolate bar. It rocks.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:38 PM (qPCAa)

203 The exercise, remembles that experiment, that they did in Palo Alto,in '67, that became the afterschool special 'the Wave' about the rise of Nazism,

Posted by: luigi vercotti at April 13, 2013 06:38 PM (Jsiw/)

204 Steve Sailer's a really interesting guy to read if you never have. Mainly looks at social science data and the stupid things the Left (and often the Right) says and does. He's basically just trying to understand the world around him. Plus his mind-thoughts are apparently forbidden fruit, even here. He does tackle some taboo topics -- like race. But he's pretty much the opposite of a supremacist. He just recognizes that race/ethnicity is an actual biological, genetic reality. If you can get a DNA test for it, it's real. Sailer and Razib (who's Bangladeshi) both often look at the genetic basis of ethnicity and things like that. Razib is a science blogger at Discover. If a science blogger at Discover can link to Sailer I think Ace of Spades can. I find Steve Sailer to be one of the more consistently interesting writers on the web. Plus it's always fun to read something supposedly taboo. Although anyone looking for a taboo thrill might not get much. Sailer is an interesting, but not very edgy guy. He's very calm and laid-back. No cursing. Just him writing about interesting things he's noticed or some interesting data he's come across.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 06:38 PM (ZPrif)

205 So, do I stay here with the imaginary friends in my computer, or go out for a drink and hope the cute bartender is working tonight? plan c: ask if any of your imaginary friends are cute bar tenders ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 06:39 PM (TvO05)

206 but I'm not sure I will make it at this point. I may have to just offer to lead a zoo outing the next day. Not only MUST you make it, you must help I lurk find a real handle before then.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 13, 2013 06:39 PM (3IrSf)

207 I really do not want to join yet another online group. No offense but its bad enough as is the online addiction.

And miracle of miracles, the headache that has been pounding me for the past four hours is finally lifting.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:39 PM (rYImi)

208 Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 10:35 PM (HbuYa) you have.... a ... square? how did you do that?

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:39 PM (qPCAa)

209

So not an evil anti-semitic bitch, but just incredibly stupid.

Pretty much. The technique (arguing the unpopular case) and the material (propaganda and rhetoric) are both important and valid. The problem was that the teacher didn't do a common sense check of "will this go over well with parents?"

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:39 PM (lr3d7)

210 201 So, do I stay here with the imaginary friends in my computer, or go out for a drink and hope the cute bartender is working tonight?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:37 PM (lr3d7)

*****

Depends on how many drinks you have to have before the bartender starts to look cute.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 06:39 PM (pxDth)

211 To those who are ok with the Nazi writing assignment...what if the unit was on slavery in the US and the assignment was on the evilness and subhuman nature of Black people? Still cool?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:39 PM (GEICT)

212 I shall make an excel document on the handedness of countries executive officials and get back to you on that lurker

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:40 PM (aPAIU)

213 Ombudsman, sadly from what I see as the mother of a teenage boy, there are some crazy teenage girls that I'm trying to keep away.

Posted by: NCKate at April 13, 2013 10:35 PM (J/Yaf)

I guess I'm showing my age. When I was 17, young ladies played defense

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:41 PM (HqXYa)

214 213: More interesting actually, but even less defensible

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:41 PM (aPAIU)

215

plan c: ask if any of your imaginary friends are cute bar tenders ...

Are you a cute bartender?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:41 PM (lr3d7)

216 Illinois GOP FIBS goog job douches

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 06:41 PM (HVff2)

217 >>>or go out for a drink and hope the cute bartender is working tonight?

Prior to meeting my awesome spouse 25 years ago, I too dated attractive bartendresses.

If I may say, the difference between the two is this.

We'll be here next week.

That is all.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 06:41 PM (4Mv1T)

218 201 So, do I stay here with the imaginary friends in my computer, or go out for a drink and hope the cute bartender is working tonight? Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:37 PM

We won't give you a venereal disease and we certainly won't get you pregnant

Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 06:41 PM (mCvL4)

219 More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=1828 Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2013 09:47 PM (Vk2pI) Statist.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 13, 2013 06:41 PM (FsUAO)

220 Mama bear, thanks. They're mostly jrotc kids so they are usually respectful and listen to my husband and me. Hopefully, tonight won't be an exception.

Posted by: NCKate at April 13, 2013 06:42 PM (J/Yaf)

221 UFC chick fight ended with bloody faced chick taking knees to the face until the ref stopped it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 06:42 PM (ZPrif)

222 217 plan c: ask if any of your imaginary friends are cute bar tenders ... Are you a cute bartender? Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:41 PM (lr3d7) I am blasphemous, for I don't drink at all

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:42 PM (aPAIU)

223 Ombudsman, the talk of female empowerment means the women are expected to revel in their sexuality.... become a slave to their lady parts and vote accordingly. *thud*

Yeah women have come a long way baby.... makes the caveman dragging his mate of choice by the hair seem enlightened.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:43 PM (rYImi)

224 To those who are ok with the Nazi writing assignment...what if the unit was on slavery in the US and the assignment was on the evilness and subhuman nature of Black people? Still cool? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 10:39 PM (GEICT) I've taken and taught many the 19th century American history class where students are asked to reproduce the argument of slaveholders. But it needs to be done in conjunction with talking about the argument of the opposing side.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:43 PM (qPCAa)

225 We'll be here next week.

That is all.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 10:41 PM (4Mv1T)

*****

But we will be pouting if you ditch us for some cute bartender.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 06:43 PM (pxDth)

226 Toby, you like the new electronic tracking sites, aim dot etc? I have little experience with optics. I've heretofore been an iron sights guy but with my growing farsightedness, I'm considering changing that.

Posted by: toby928© at April 13, 2013 06:43 PM (QupBk)

227 To those who are ok with the Nazi writing assignment...what if the unit was on slavery in the US and the assignment was on the evilness and subhuman nature of Black people? Still cool?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 10:39 PM (GEICT)

Maybe in a graduate school class on propaganda.... completely inappropriate in High School.

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:43 PM (HqXYa)

228 213 To those who are ok with the Nazi writing assignment...what if the unit was on slavery in the US and the assignment was on the evilness and subhuman nature of Black people? Still cool? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 10:39 PM (GEICT) Yep. I guess I'm not the type to get perpetually up in arms about assignments that will actually challenge people to think.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 13, 2013 06:43 PM (FsUAO)

229 201 So, do I stay here with the imaginary friends in my computer, or go out for a drink and hope the cute bartender is working tonight? Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:37 PM (lr3d7) Hate to see you go, but if she's a nice girl who will bless your life, you should go out.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 06:43 PM (wk9P4)

230 It is interesting how Canada will probably never have another French Canadian prime minister, when it has had several.

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:43 PM (aPAIU)

231 215 I don't think they had as many Daddy/attention issues back in your day.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 13, 2013 06:44 PM (GmTxn)

232 Shit. I missed another CME? Shit again.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 06:44 PM (CuDT2)

233 @ 192 bring one of your big Texas trucks up here you can have rain & snow

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 06:44 PM (HVff2)

234 *aside from the possible age mismatch. I'm guessing these highschoolers are way too immature.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 13, 2013 06:44 PM (FsUAO)

235 236: they are

Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2013 06:45 PM (aPAIU)

236 HoboJerky, it might have been the first time in their academic career where they were challenged to think.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:45 PM (rYImi)

237 Tobe, I like modern arms.

I had a few fails with the 1911, never with the XD.

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 06:45 PM (Tete0)

238 tap tap tap

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 13, 2013 06:45 PM (8sCoq)

239 Hate to see you go, but if she's a nice girl who will bless your life, you should go out. Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 10:43 PM

I believe Colorado Alex is a girl ...

But if she wants to spend a Saturday night in a tryst with cute female bartender, the Moron nation does not discriminate

But we do expect pictures

Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 06:45 PM (mCvL4)

240 All late arriving ettes and lurking ettes go up and read my post number 67.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:45 PM (qPCAa)

241 210 Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 10:35 PM (HbuYa) you have.... a ... square? how did you do that? 🐻.....from my phone it is my Grumpy Bear picture

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 06:46 PM (HbuYa)

242 Tonight's Powerball jackpot annuity is $70 million. T minus fourteen minutes and counting.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:46 PM (rYImi)

243 I got no problem with acknowledging reverse viewpoints. I have no problem discussing the other side of things. But proactively arguing for dehumanization and outright hate? No redeeming quality in my book.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:46 PM (GEICT)

244

Trying to decide if I should hang out with the imaginary friends in my computer or go across the room and watch the rest of the ball game with my cute wife. Hmmm...

...Later y'all.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 06:46 PM (pxDth)

245 238 HoboJerky, it might have been the first time in their academic career where they were challenged to think. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 10:45 PM (rYImi) Yeah that's my only real reservation. I think the teacher might have shot too high, unless she has been challenging them all along. My high school classmates couldn't argue for their own position, much less another persons'.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 13, 2013 06:47 PM (FsUAO)

246 48 Any responses to #14?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 09:54 PM (doBIb)

Sorry, EC -- in Asheville, NC, currently and my reference works are in Silicon Valley. I could get you pretty good answers....but only starting 2 weeks from now.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 13, 2013 06:47 PM (97oEa)

247

Hate to see you go, but if she's a nice girl who will bless your life, you should go out.

I'm pretty sure she doesn't know my name. Plus she has tattoos which is a big red flag for me. But she's nice eye candy, decent conversation, and makes a good rye old fashioned.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:47 PM (lr3d7)

248 241 Ha, no, this Alex is a dude. And he should go out. We'll still be imaginary in the morning.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 13, 2013 06:47 PM (GmTxn)

249 Are you a cute bartender? Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:41 PM (lr3d7) no, and no ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 06:47 PM (TvO05)

250 Seamus chose wisely.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:48 PM (rYImi)

251 But proactively arguing for dehumanization and outright hate? No redeeming quality in my book. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 10:46 PM (GEICT) Know your enemy.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 13, 2013 06:48 PM (FsUAO)

252 I had a few fails with the 1911, never with the XD. I was a bit surprised but I had no FtFs at all with the Russian Brown Bear in the pistols.

Posted by: toby928© at April 13, 2013 06:48 PM (QupBk)

253

I believe Colorado Alex is a girl ...

My testicles disagree.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:48 PM (lr3d7)

254 Ombudsman, the talk of female empowerment means the women are expected to revel in their sexuality.... become a slave to their lady parts and vote accordingly. *thud*

Yeah women have come a long way baby.... makes the caveman dragging his mate of choice by the hair seem enlightened.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 10:43 PM (rYImi)

Anna, the birth control pill has contributed more to today's social pathologies than anything else I can think of

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:48 PM (HqXYa)

255 @ 242, my gooder half joined, she's new to that kind of thing and is figuring out a name and avatar,

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 06:48 PM (HVff2)

256 We won't give you a venereal disease and we certainly won't get you pregnant
On the other hand, we can't give you free drinks.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 13, 2013 06:49 PM (mGBy8)

257 {i]I believe Colorado Alex is a girl ... But if she wants to spend a Saturday night in a tryst with cute female bartender, the Moron nation does not discriminate But we do expect pictures Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 10:45 PM (mCvL4) Colorado Alex and I have met in person at a Moron meet up.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 06:49 PM (wk9P4)

258
Sorry, EC -- in Asheville, NC, currently and my reference works are in Silicon Valley. I could get you pretty good answers....but only starting 2 weeks from now.

Crap.

Offhand, do you know how 'cost basis' is calculated when restricted stocks are given as a gift?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 06:49 PM (doBIb)

259 235 @ 192 bring one of your big Texas trucks up here you can have rain & snow Thank you .... Now all I need is to get some big trucks and .... We will take all the Rain ya'll got !!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 06:50 PM (HbuYa)

260 I do love the Beautiful Blue Big Sky but I would be alittle less Grumpy with Lots of Beautiful Rain 🐻 -eyes go wide- We fight and kill over Ampersand technology, and you have bears? -sulks off in defeat-

Posted by: Brother Cavil, elsewhere at April 13, 2013 06:50 PM (qyfQg)

261 250 241

Ha, no, this Alex is a dude. And he should go out. We'll still be imaginary in the morning. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 13, 2013 10:47 PM

OK, forget the pictures ... PLEASE

Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 06:50 PM (mCvL4)

262 I have little experience with optics. I've heretofore been an iron sights guy but with my growing farsightedness, I'm considering changing that.

Posted by: toby928Â© at April 13, 2013 10:43 PM (QupBk)

Think about it... Put the red dot on the target, pull the trigger and the bullet goes there.

Infinite eye relief is the main attraction.

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 06:50 PM (Tete0)

263 Know your enemy. Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 13, 2013 10:48 PM (FsUAO) You must have missed the first part of my comment. To me there's a very large difference between "Ok class, what were some of the arguments made by XYZ? What propaganda was used? Why was it effective?" and having a portion of the class argue on behalf of that crap. Knowing is not becoming.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:50 PM (GEICT)

264 makes a good rye old fashioned. Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:47 PM (lr3d7) well, why didn't you lead with the pertinent information? get thee to the bar, man!

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:51 PM (qPCAa)

265 Hate to see you go, but if she's a nice girl who will bless your life, you should go out.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 10:43 PM (wk9P4)

Yeah sure all that.

And also, if she looks like a hot piece of ass you can score with go for it.

Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2013 06:51 PM (LI48c)

266 I am truly ambidextrous. It doesn't mean you don't favor one side though. I am more comfortable writing and throwing right handed but favor the left side for kicking. I tried to teach my son to be ambidextrous but it did not work. I actually played baseball and switch hit. Coaches loved me. I figured I would teach the kid to be an ambidextrous pitcher and then be his agent. How much would a 30 game winner make these days.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 13, 2013 06:51 PM (jucos)

267 Trying to decide if I should hang out with the imaginary friends in my computer or go across the room and watch the rest of the ball game with my cute wife. Hmmm.

...Later y'all.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 10:46 PM (pxDth)

Not sure about your relationship with your wife, but it goes without saying you're not getting any here

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 06:51 PM (HqXYa)

268

OK, forget the pictures ... PLEASE

Too late. I've decided to dedicate a whole series to recreating every EC wife pic. Complete with bikni.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:51 PM (lr3d7)

269 I have these &&& but no bears.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 06:51 PM (HVff2)

270 123 Good evening morons, I'm back home from a day of drinking and firearms, alas, not in that order. Posted by: toby928Â© at April 13, 2013 10:20 PM
=======

One of my more interesting days was spent driving a bulldozer while drinking beer, and shooting the empty cans with an AR-15. Good time, good times...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 06:51 PM (aDwsi)

271

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 10:39 PM (rYImi)

Glad your head's starting to feel better. I'm sure you know you're always welcome to join the Rav group if you change your mind. We're cross-connected on FaceBook though so I know you can get hold of people if you need to. That's a lot of what this is about, other than the not unimportant offer of a mental spa for a little while.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 06:52 PM (wbeNt)

272 I'm going to Home Depot and look for cute xeriscaping plants ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 06:52 PM (TvO05)

273 That glowing red reticule is a blessing in a dark room and there is a darker shadow moving towards you. And that shadow refuses to obey your commands to stop. Center mass the darker shadow and squeeze trigger. No wondering where the iron post sights are.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:52 PM (rYImi)

274 Lighten up Francis'.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 06:52 PM (BVkEs)

275 #180

Seems like incredibly bad judgment to me. I can think of a few zillion less volatile subjects for a student to argue in an essay. Exposure to the Nazi mentality should be saved for the History classes. An English teacher should have had no shortage of fictional villains that could be enlisted as a perspective to take on for the assignment.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 06:52 PM (kcfmt)

276 I am just now getting back in the USA. 90 minutes to clear Immigration tonight. Big red sign blaming sequestration budget cuts. I was not alone in my outrage.

Posted by: navybrat at April 13, 2013 06:53 PM (rjIIA)

277 8 Joe Gibbs has won both NFL and Nascar titles. As coach and owner, respectively. Who else has won in multiple pro sports like that? Anyone? Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 09:36 PM (ZPrif) Bill Davidson the former owner of the Pistons and former owner of the Tampa Bay Lightning won the NBA Championship and the Stanley Cup in the same season of 2004. That is pretty badass.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 13, 2013 06:53 PM (Zd/NW)

278 242, my gooder half joined, she's new to that kind of thing and is figuring out a name and avatar, Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 10:48 PM (HVff2) excellent. no worries and no rush. we will be around. I'm heading off soon.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:53 PM (qPCAa)

279 Trying to decide if I should hang out with the imaginary friends in my computer or go across the room and watch the rest of the ball game with my cute wife. Hmmm...

Ball game? What ball game would that be?

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 06:53 PM (CuDT2)

280 Yep on FB. Polliwogette and that reprobate BCochran have me friended there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:53 PM (rYImi)

281 My testicles disagree.

Maybe they need some time apart, then they can work it out.

Posted by: fluffy at April 13, 2013 06:54 PM (z9HTb)

282 My testicles disagree. Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:48 PM (lr3d7) Regarding the bartender, I do hope your dangly bits remember the advice your family has passed along to you.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 06:54 PM (wk9P4)

283 Anywho, this is way to serious for an ONT. Doesn't someone have some boobehs to share with the Horde? ONT is supposed to be fun right? And what's more fun than bobbers?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:54 PM (GEICT)

284 Maybe not recovered as much as I thought... since Polliwogette had posted that comment..

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:55 PM (rYImi)

285

Seems like incredibly bad judgment to me. I can think of a few zillion less volatile subjects for a student to argue in an essay. Exposure to the Nazi mentality should be saved for the History classes. An English teacher should have had no shortage of fictional villains that could be enlisted as a perspective to take on for the assignment.

I never said that the teacher was blameless, only that I imagine that he/she was trying to get students to think about how the subject of rhetoric and propaganda which is fine. The problem was that s/he tried to integrate it with the history class, and didn't think the plan through. Stupid, but not malicious.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:55 PM (lr3d7)

286 Bobbers? Really? *sigh*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:55 PM (GEICT)

287 Too late. I've decided to dedicate a whole series to recreating every EC wife pic. Complete with bikni.

That's quite a challenge.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 06:55 PM (doBIb)

288 Until the tilt rotor can tight sling a track like the one in Aliens the joes aren't going to be happy, and rock a rack or two of Hellfires.

Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2013 06:55 PM (3f/jH)

289 EC, would this help?

http://www.costbasis.com/stocks/restrictedstock.html

(but I still advocate getting professional advice)

Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 06:55 PM (BBWjt)

290

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 10:48 PM (HVff2)

We'll be happy to walk her through any questions (that we know the answer to).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 06:55 PM (wbeNt)

291 Maybe they need some time apart, then they can work it out.
That's what Chaz said!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 13, 2013 06:55 PM (mGBy8)

292 Well gee BCochran, I post a video of the South Korean all girl group Girls Generation and here you are complaining. Geez.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:56 PM (rYImi)

293 BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 10:54 PM (GEICT) grouchyoldcripple.com every Sat Night ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 06:56 PM (TvO05)

294 I'm heading off soon.

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 10:53 PM (qPCAa)

First some poetry please

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 06:56 PM (Tete0)

295 Fraudian slip there BCochran?

'bobbers' really?

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) (

)

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 06:57 PM (rYImi)

296 cthulhu,

What takes you to Asheville?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 06:57 PM (aDwsi)

297 grouchyoldcripple.com every Sat Night ... Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 10:56 PM (TvO05) No. Fucking. Way am I going near that link. My brain hurts just from seeing it written down.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:57 PM (GEICT)

298 First some poetry please Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 10:56 PM (Tete0) what? I believe MWR is the poet laureate around here. when have i ever done poetry?

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 06:57 PM (qPCAa)

299

Regarding the bartender, I do hope your dangly bits remember the advice your family has passed along to you.

"Son, never stick your dick in crazy. Of course, you'll do it at least once, and every man should just so that he has a story to tell and because he has to learn the hard way. But for God's sake don't give her you real name, let alone marry her!"

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:57 PM (lr3d7)

300 yeah I vote for Alex going to the bar and getting lucky

Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 06:57 PM (BBWjt)

301 Thanks 'ettes

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 06:57 PM (HVff2)

302 I obv missed that link AP. And I know. As soon as I saw the comment post...."dammit. They're going to kill me."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 06:58 PM (GEICT)

303

That's quite a challenge.

I'll be sure to send you an autographed 24"x36" copy...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 06:58 PM (lr3d7)

304 According to this, there have been three left-handed UK Prime Ministers, with Churchill being one of them.

http://greatlefties.blogspot.com/

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 06:59 PM (kcfmt)

305 And in other tranny news, Elementary thought they'd be super daring and with it and have a tranny guy play the rÃ´le of "Miss Hudson". I'm hoping it'll be a never-repeated one-off.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 13, 2013 06:59 PM (mGBy8)

306 EC- You have now graduated into that ethereal realm of personal finance that requires that you have your own "people".

I can't tell you my guy's name, but his initials, are "C. P. A."

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 06:59 PM (4Mv1T)

307 257 @ 242, my gooder half joined, she's new to that kind of thing and is figuring out a name and avatar, Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 10:48 PM It was my understanding that we don't do "avatars" here. That said, I gots an "avatar" for you, right here: http://tinyurl.com/c6wa8te. You're welcome.

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 13, 2013 07:00 PM (JMmQ9)

308 My guy's initials are E.A.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 07:00 PM (HVff2)

309 when have i ever done poetry?

Posted by: elizabethe at April 13, 2013 10:57 PM (qPCAa)

Sorry, git going then, I made a mistake forgive me

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 07:01 PM (Tete0)

310 Winston Churchill was the first guy to use "OMG" in correspondence http://is.gd/1P0W5t

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 13, 2013 07:01 PM (8sCoq)

311 EC- You have now graduated into that ethereal realm of personal finance that requires that you have your own "people".

I got lucky and that was a one-time deal. Actually, I have the same thing happening this summer too, but no more after that.

I'm wondering if I should file an extension and get my questions answered or if I should just learn how to shrug my shoulders and put on my 'confused' face like Timmy Geither when the IRS agent comes around.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:01 PM (doBIb)

312 262 I do love the Beautiful Blue Big Sky but I would be alittle less Grumpy with Lots of Beautiful Rain 🐻 -eyes go wide- We fight and kill over Ampersand technology, and you have bears? -sulks off in defeat- Oh no !!!!!! I am sorry , I do not want to make anyone upset , the 🐻 is from my phone and I would gladly share 🐻😄😃🐻 with you

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 07:01 PM (HbuYa)

313 301 Regarding the bartender, I do hope your dangly bits remember the advice your family has passed along to you. "Son, never stick your dick in crazy. Of course, you'll do it at least once, and every man should just so that he has a story to tell and because he has to learn the hard way. But for God's sake don't give her you real name, let alone marry her!" Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:57 PM (lr3d7) Better make sure that thing is wrapped up tight too. Crazy is usually real fertile too.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 13, 2013 07:02 PM (Zd/NW)

314 You are off on that oneAlton it's for an 'Ettes thang

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 07:02 PM (HVff2)

315 Ref that naval gun. The LRLAP uses a base bleed rocket assistance, and an extended range fin glide trajectory, Dude. That shell has WINGS! The base bleed isn't really a rocket boost, it's like a slow burning rocket so that there's less vacuum suction at the base of the shell slowing it down..

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 13, 2013 07:02 PM (vHxiM)

316 Watching V for Vendetta. Such a good movie. And the total mindfuck of what he does to natalie portman is unreal.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:03 PM (GEICT)

317

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 11:01 PM (doBIb)

only the ruling class gets to get away with an "oopsie" moment when it comes to the IRS

filing an extension wouldn't be such a bad idea

Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 07:03 PM (BBWjt)

318 Right on, Colorado Alex.

Right on.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 07:03 PM (CuDT2)

319 But for God's sake don't give her you real name, let alone marry her!" Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:57 PM (lr3d7) I'm feeling sad for a friend tonight -- he has a bad habit of marrying crazy. Sweetest guy in the world, but I think he's attracted to women who need love but can't accept love. Anyway, he's facing divorce and his wife is mostly interested in inflicting pain.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 07:03 PM (wk9P4)

320 A Florida police sergeant was fired for allegedly bringing Trayvon Martin shooting targets he purchased on the Internet to a firearms training session. http://goo.gl/dsIqo If you google "trayvon martin shooting targets" images, you get the same targets of a man in a hoody that they have been using for over a decade. Sheesh! I'm so sick of this bullshit!

Posted by: waldo at April 13, 2013 07:03 PM (JmbIB)

321 312
Winston Churchill was the first guy to use "OMG" in correspondence

http://is.gd/1P0W5t Posted by: Jones in CO at April 13, 2013 11:01 PM
============

Little known fact: Hitler was first to use "BFF", in correspondence with Stalin. 1939

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 07:04 PM (aDwsi)

322 BCochran, how about these 'bobbers'?

http://tinyurl.com/bmps8op

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:04 PM (doBIb)

323 Better make sure that thing is wrapped up tight too. Crazy is usually real fertile too.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 13, 2013 11:02 PM (Zd/NW)

1) That is the perfect nick for that comment

2) Plus the shit that usually lurks in crazy can burn through a single layer of latex faster than alien blood on tinfoil. You need to double or triple wrap it just to be sure.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 07:05 PM (lr3d7)

324 186 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 13, 2013 10:32 PM (97oEa)

Hey! Are you a tax moron? Any help on #14?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 10:34 PM (doBIb)

Just got to this one, but responded already @248....sorry. I'd be happy to help when I get back.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 13, 2013 07:05 PM (97oEa)

325 319
Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 11:01 PM (doBIb)
only the ruling class gets to get away with an "oopsie" moment when it comes to the IRS

filing an extension wouldn't be such a bad idea
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 11:03 PM
============

Every year for years now....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 07:05 PM (aDwsi)

326 324 BCochran, how about these 'bobbers'? http://tinyurl.com/bmps8op Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 11:04 PM (doBIb) They'll do juuuuuuust fine.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:05 PM (GEICT)

327 http://tinyurl.com/cmwqk4r you're welcome ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 07:05 PM (TvO05)

328 That glowing red reticule is a blessing in a dark room and there is a darker shadow moving towards you. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 10:52 PM (rYImi) A reticule is a purse or handbag that closes by means of a drawstring. So, you know, whatever gives you comfort.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 07:05 PM (bxiXv)

329 'Shirley you can't be serious' BC, it's an odious bit of 'two minute' hate, that Natalie Hershlag nee Portman, found herself in, she was humiliated by that deformed thug, V.

Posted by: luigi vercotti at April 13, 2013 07:05 PM (Jsiw/)

330 Winston Churchill was the first guy to use "OMG" in correspondence

http://is.gd/1P0W5t

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 13, 2013 11:01 PM
============

Little known fact: Hitler was first to use "BFF", in correspondence with Stalin. 1939

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 11:04 PM (aDwsi)

Also, the Mexican government replied to the 1917 Zimmerman telegraph simply with "IDK".

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 13, 2013 07:06 PM (aozUR)

331 EC, what kind of tax statement did you get from the firm for the actual withholding and release. It should state the tax basis, or at least the date of the tax maturity - so you can go look it up.

Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2013 07:06 PM (DZ9ke)

332 I would gladly share 🐻😄😃🐻 with you Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 11:01 PM (HbuYa) Too bad you can't trade them for some rain!

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 07:06 PM (wk9P4)

333 "YOLO!"
- Ernest Hemingway, 1923

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 13, 2013 07:07 PM (aozUR)

334 #318

Read the original. The Wachowski Bros. got some stuff badly wrong. It isn't clear if they failed to understand what Moore was doing or just decided to change it to their liking.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 07:07 PM (kcfmt)

335 YOLT!

Ian Fleming.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 07:08 PM (kcfmt)

336

Mindy,

The crazy ones can often sense the nice guys, aka "suckers" whom they can bleed dry. It's sad, but true. I almost ended up in that position a time or two when I was in college, but avoided it by the grace of God.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 07:08 PM (lr3d7)

337 I'm out

Posted by: Jones in CO at April 13, 2013 07:08 PM (8sCoq)

338 I'm feeling sad for a friend tonight -- he has a bad habit of marrying crazy. Sweetest guy in the world, but I think he's attracted to women who need love but can't accept love. Anyway, he's facing divorce and his wife is mostly interested in inflicting pain. Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 11:03 PM (wk9P4) Damn, I wonder if your friend is my brother in law. He's on his 4th wife, and the 2 I have known were batshit crazy, and MrsCaniac said the first 2 were nuts as well.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 13, 2013 07:09 PM (Zd/NW)

339 Pearl Harbor general Husband Kimmel was the first to use WTF? When he heard..

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 07:09 PM (HqXYa)

340 EC- I second the advice to "file for an extension". Just remember that taxes are due on 4-15-2013, regardless. I am clueless about penalty and interest calculations if you wait, which is why I have "people".

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 07:09 PM (4Mv1T)

341 LOL Harry S. Truman, August 1945

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 13, 2013 07:09 PM (jucos)

342 334 I would gladly share 🐻😄😃🐻 with you Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 11:01 PM (HbuYa) Too bad you can't trade them for some rain! Thanks Mindy !!!!! I would in a heart beat !!!! Please keep Rain for North Texas in your Prayers !!!!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 07:09 PM (HbuYa)

343 Read the original. The Wachowski Bros. got some stuff badly wrong. It isn't clear if they failed to understand what Moore was doing or just decided to change it to their liking. Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 11:07 PM (kcfmt) Oh, I know it's not all accurate or anything. I just enjoy it as a stand alone movie.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:09 PM (GEICT)

344 Anyway, he's facing divorce and his wife is mostly interested in inflicting pain. Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 11:03 PM (wk9P4) One reason I never married. I don't desire crazy, but for whatever reason my compass points that way.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 07:09 PM (bxiXv)

345 "It chanced one day, he being come thus well night to the beginning of May and the weather being very fair, that, having entered into thoughts of his cruel mistress, he bade all his servants him to himself, so he might muse more at his leisure, and wandered on, step by step, lost in melancholy thought, till he came to the pinewood. ... then, looking before him, he saw a very fair damsel come running, naked, through a thicket all thronged with underwood and briers, towards the place where he was, weeping and crying sore for mercy and all dishevelled and torn by the bushes and brambles. At her heels ran two huge and fierce mastiffs, which followed hard upon her and ofttimes bit her cruelly, whenas they overtook her; and after them he saw come riding upon a black courser a knight arrayed in sad-colored armor, with a very wrathful aspect and a tuck in his hand, threatening her with death in foul and fearsome words."

- excerpt from Eight Story of the Fifth Day as told by Filomena. Decameron by Boccaccio.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:10 PM (rYImi)

346 Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life

Mindeh, haven't you heard that graviteh only makes boobehs perkier?

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 07:10 PM (CuDT2)

347 Come on. YOLO is the Detroit hitman in Justified.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 13, 2013 07:10 PM (mGBy8)

348 Pearl Harbor general Husband Kimmel was the first to use WTF? When he heard..

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 11:09 PM (HqXYa)

My bad. Admiral Kimmel. reading a book on the ETO

Posted by: Ombudsman at April 13, 2013 07:11 PM (HqXYa)

349 One reason I never married. I don't desire crazy, but for whatever reason my compass points that way. Given the state of the world today, it must be hell trying to put your pants on ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 07:11 PM (TvO05)

350 I kill dat bitch!

Posted by: da black knight at April 13, 2013 07:12 PM (mGBy8)

351 Jones in CO If you are still here, I have a Droid Razr. Best thing about it is long battery life. I like the phone in general, but the last upgrade really fucked up the texting.

Posted by: real joe at April 13, 2013 07:12 PM (PD2ad)

352 325 Better make sure that thing is wrapped up tight too. Crazy is usually real fertile too.Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 13, 2013 11:02 PM (Zd/NW) 1) That is the perfect nick for that comment 2) Plus the shit that usually lurks in crazy can burn through a single layer of latex faster than alien blood on tinfoil. You need to double or triple wrap it just to be sure. Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 11:05 PM (lr3d7) It's also advisable to bring your own. They may be giving you one that has a couple hundred pin pricks in it.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 13, 2013 07:12 PM (Zd/NW)

353 Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 11:10 PM (rYImi) Kind of lends itself to some interesting cover art ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 07:12 PM (TvO05)

354 EC, what kind of tax statement did you get from the firm for the actual withholding and release. It should state the tax basis, or at least the date of the tax maturity - so you can go look it up.

I got a 1099-B that gives the net proceed from the sale, the date of sale, and the quantity of stock remaining after the company withheld the rest for taxes. It does not contain the 'cost basis' figure and that 's what I'm trying to figure out.

Is the 'cost basis' calculated on the entire block of shares or the remainder of shares I have after withholding?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:12 PM (doBIb)

355 EC Check out the IRS website, see if they have a publication of Instructions for Schedule D. That should have something about calculating basis.

Posted by: real joe at April 13, 2013 07:13 PM (PD2ad)

356 #48 EC, I am sorry. I haven't the faintest clue. This is why we pay an accountant. My sympathies for your problem.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 13, 2013 07:13 PM (GoIUi)

357 260
Sorry, EC -- in Asheville, NC, currently and my reference works are
in Silicon Valley. I could get you pretty good answers....but only
starting 2 weeks from now.

Crap.

Offhand, do you know how 'cost basis' is calculated when restricted stocks are given as a gift?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 10:49 PM (doBIb)

Offhand, I know this is a tremendously perilous corner of the tax law, full of built-in pitfalls concealed by last-minute legislation and temporary patches.....and wouldn't want to give you the disservice of a SWAG.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 13, 2013 07:14 PM (97oEa)

358

If any of you are the prayin type..

My son is the commander of his NJROTC unit and one of the cadets killed herself today. The boy is understandably upset and another cadet is talking crazy. Makes it worse for everyone. A few prayers thrown our direction would not be refused.

Posted by: madamemayhem at April 13, 2013 07:14 PM (S2RnE)

359 Justified

rednecks are not really that smart, are they?

love the show

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 07:15 PM (Tete0)

360 Offhand, I know this is a tremendously perilous corner of the tax law, full of built-in pitfalls concealed by last-minute legislation and temporary patches.....and wouldn't want to give you the disservice of a SWAG.

This is why I hate doing this shit every April. Fuck the IRS!

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:15 PM (doBIb)

361 316 You are off on that oneAlton it's for an 'Ettes thang Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 13, 2013 11:02 PM please point me to where I "went off the rails" thx I almost never mean to offend, it's mostly all in good fun (mostly) Your thoughts? Thanks

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 13, 2013 07:15 PM (JMmQ9)

362 madamemayhem at April 13, 2013 11:14 PM (S2RnE) May her family be comforted ... May your son find strength ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 07:15 PM (TvO05)

363 It's the damnedest thing---My husband and I know a guy and a girl who both seem normal but kept ending up with crazy/worthless people, having to move house to avoid stalker exes, legal drama, the whole nine yards. When they were both between psychos, we tried to get them together. No dice. They bored each other. Tried to point them away from crazy, but they both just seemed asdicted to repeating the same old patterns.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 13, 2013 07:15 PM (GmTxn)

364 If any of you are the prayin type.. My son is the commander of his NJROTC unit and one of the cadets killed herself today. The boy is understandably upset and another cadet is talking crazy. Makes it worse for everyone. A few prayers thrown our direction would not be refused. Posted by: madamemayhem at April 13, 2013 11:14 PM (S2RnE) Yikes. Terrible. Thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:16 PM (GEICT)

365 EC, I will out myself as a CPA and agree with those recommending a professional. You also need to remember that you have 2 taxable events there - the vesting of the award and the sale of the stock. The tax basis for the sale is the value at vesting (which is where you need specific professional help). Good luck.

Posted by: pforeman at April 13, 2013 07:16 PM (RfO5r)

366 Hope this doesn't hurt anyone's feelings, cross anyone's line, or get the blog in trouble.

http://tinyurl.com/cnt6qjs

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 07:16 PM (BVkEs)

367 Good fight for the UFC Ultimate Fighter finale. The guy picked last (they pick teams in the first episode) won. Kelvin Gastelum, son of Mexican immigrants, beat Uriah Hall, Jamaican immigrant. Uriah is a kickboxer and dominated the season with vicious knockouts. He sent 3 of the 4 guys he fought on the show to the hospital. Kelvin is a wrestler. Classic wrestler vs striker fight. And it shows that the striker loses if he can't stop the takedown. Uriah would have crushed Kelvin if the fight had stayed standing up. Uriah is a much better striker with both hands and feet. But Kelvin isn't an idiot, so he kept taking the fight to the ground. Uriah couldn't stop him. Close fight. Split decision.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 07:17 PM (ZPrif)

368 okay I think I am going to go to bed early tonite
no big bouts of drinking tonight

Alex, go to the bar and get lucky
EC, here is a tax kitteh to help you out

http://tinyurl.com/cjx22pj

good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 07:17 PM (BBWjt)

369 Given the state of the world today, it must be hell trying to put your pants on ... Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 11:11 PM (TvO05) Unfortunately I have decent judgement.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 07:17 PM (bxiXv)

370

night chemjeff

thanks bcochran

Posted by: madamemayhem at April 13, 2013 07:18 PM (S2RnE)

371 Good Night, chemjeff ... thanks for kitteh!

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 07:18 PM (TvO05)

372 madamemayhem, that is awful, my sincere condolences, and hope that your son can find the strength to lead his unit through the difficult time

Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2013 07:19 PM (BBWjt)

373 thanks adriane

Posted by: madamemayhem at April 13, 2013 07:19 PM (S2RnE)

374 rednecks are not really that smart, are they?
I don't know. They've killed alot more of the Northern mobsters than the other way around.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 13, 2013 07:19 PM (mGBy8)

375 Damn, I wonder if your friend is my brother in law. He's on his 4th wife, and the 2 I have known were batshit crazy, and MrsCaniac said the first 2 were nuts as well. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 13, 2013 11:09 PM (Zd/NW) My friend has no sisters, but it's an all-too-comon story.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 07:19 PM (wk9P4)

376 Unfortunately I have decent judgement. or Fortunately, given the tales of woe by others ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 07:19 PM (TvO05)

377 sad story, sorry to hear.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 13, 2013 07:20 PM (ZPrif)

378 thanks chemjeff. the kid has been on the phone for half an hour trying to talk another girl off the ledge (so to speak).

Posted by: madamemayhem at April 13, 2013 07:20 PM (S2RnE)

379 360
If any of you are the prayin type..
My son is the commander of his NJROTC unit and one of the cadets killed herself today. The boy is understandably upset and another cadet is talking crazy. Makes it worse for everyone. A few prayers thrown our direction would not be refused. Posted by: madamemayhem at April 13, 2013 11:14 PM (S2RnE)

---

May God's peace comfort everyone involved.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 07:20 PM (BVkEs)

380 298 cthulhu,

What takes you to Asheville?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 13, 2013 10:57 PM (aDwsi)

The BH has business in High Point, and we did a weekend getaway. Did a 700' elevation top-to-bottom round-trip hike today.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 13, 2013 07:20 PM (97oEa)

381 or Fortunately, given the tales of woe by others ... Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 11:19 PM (TvO05) Upsides, downsides.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 07:20 PM (bxiXv)

382 Never did crazy, but did massive chip on the shoulder for long enough that it probably was closer to crazy than it should have been ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 07:20 PM (TvO05)

383 Anyone tried an online degree with University of Dallas?

Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2013 07:21 PM (DZ9ke)

384 Merovign, its spelled reticle aint it?

Adriane it would forsooth lend itself to such. The guy is like the one Mindy is talking about. The one who wanders in the woods is well nigh smitten by a lady far above his social class and he is going through his inheritance trying to woo her. His friends tell him to take a journey. So he does and witnesses that scene.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:22 PM (rYImi)

385 360 If any of you are the prayin type.. My son is the commander of his NJROTC unit and one of the cadets killed herself today. The boy is understandably upset and another cadet is talking crazy. Makes it worse for everyone. A few prayers thrown our direction would not be refused. Posted by: madamemayhem at April 13, 2013 11:14 PM (S2RnE) Prayers coming right up. Hope you will keep us informed.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 07:22 PM (wk9P4)

386

evidence to prove BHO is an illiterate hack with a tin ear. Furthemore, he has

a complete inability to speak on topic without numerous verbal tics.

Instead let's trot out one of the oldest, tiredest, most destructive tropes in world

history.

Posted by: spc at April 13, 2013 07:23 PM (CtffS)

387 #360, that kinda depends on NJROTC. Are you talking about a New Jersey ROTC or a Junior ROTC from a state starting with N?

I can't pray for anything but fire and hot, heavy metal for NJ.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 07:23 PM (CuDT2)

388 >>>Merovign, its spelled reticle aint it?

I think mine is spelled "Ridicule", because that's what it usually does to me at the range.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 07:23 PM (4Mv1T)

389 Thoughts and prayers Madame Mayhem. Yikes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:23 PM (rYImi)

390

Damn, weird. Me too.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 07:24 PM (gqEUi)

391

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 11:23 PM (CuDT2)

Really? NJROTC stands for Naval Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps. It's high school ROTC.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 07:25 PM (lr3d7)

392 Prayers to your son madam mahem!

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 07:26 PM (gqEUi)

393 Cat Zingano becomes first mother to win a fight in the UFC. Gif of fantastic finish. http://goo.gl/sgfcI

Posted by: Jose at April 13, 2013 07:28 PM (zc/sw)

394 14. Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 09:37 PM (doBIb)

EC--if you are still around, I can explain how restricted stock taxation works.

Just let me know, as that was about 380 posts ago

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 07:28 PM (8112S)

395 Mindeh, haven't you heard that graviteh only makes boobehs perkier? Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 11:10 PM (CuDT2)

I am making fun of lefties' tendency to try to legislate reality -- messing with economics, for instance, or trying to make people safe by making them defenseless. Or making laws that ignore what words really mean. That kind of stuff.

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 07:28 PM (wk9P4)

396 Prayers incoming then.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 07:28 PM (CuDT2)

397 withholding and release. It should state the tax basis, or at least the
date of the tax maturity - so you can go look it up.

I got a 1099-B that gives the net proceed from the sale, the date of sale, and the quantity of stock remaining after the company withheld the rest for taxes. It does not contain the 'cost basis' figure and that 's what I'm trying to figure out.

Is the 'cost basis' calculated on the entire block of shares or the remainder of shares I have after withholding?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 11:12 PM (doBIb)

Everything has a cost basis that is determined by the facts and circumstances of how you got it. The stuff that got sold needs it today, the stuff that will be sold later needs it then.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 13, 2013 07:28 PM (97oEa)

398 Scanner Dan, go for it.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:28 PM (doBIb)

399 For whatever it's worth.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 07:28 PM (CuDT2)

400 I was going to write what the knight told our hero... but not in the current situation. Might strike too close to home.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:29 PM (rYImi)

401 386 Merovign, its spelled reticle aint it? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 11:22 PM (rYImi) Or sometimes "dot."

I remember being shocked to discover that "reticule" was actually a word - just not what 90% of people use it to mean. It's actually somewhat amusing given what it's mis-used for, every action game chat has me thinking of all these aggressive young gamers running around with French purses.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 07:29 PM (bxiXv)

402 My son is the commander of his NJROTC unit and one of the cadets killed herself today. The boy is understandably upset and another cadet is talking crazy.

Maybe He should command them to not kill themselves?

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 07:29 PM (Tete0)

403 This is why I hate doing this shit every April. Fuck the IRS!

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 11:15 PM (doBIb)

Elections should be held on the first Tuesday after April 15.

Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2013 07:30 PM (LI48c)

404 Everything has a cost basis that is determined by the facts and circumstances of how you got it.

I received X number of restricted shares and had to wait 3 years for them to vest. Employer took about a third and held them to pay the taxes. Remainder were released to me. Fifteen days later, I sold them at a stock price which was 26 cents lower than the price on the day of vesting.

How is 'cost basis' calculated for that scenario?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:31 PM (doBIb)

405 If it is restricted stock, the cost basis is probably zero. All of the gain as of the vesting date is considered ordinary income. Any gain or loss between vesting date and sale date is taxed at capital gains rates.

BTW--Scanner Dan is not authorized to provide tax, accounting or legal advice. Please refer to your advisors before taking any action.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 07:31 PM (8112S)

406 Right on, Mindeh.

Right on.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 07:31 PM (CuDT2)

407 They are going to smite those monsters so hard with their purses!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:31 PM (rYImi)

408 Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 11:29 PM (Tete0)

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Asshole.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 07:32 PM (BVkEs)

409 I remember being shocked to discover that "reticule" was actually a word - just not what 90% of people use it to mean.

It's actually somewhat amusing given what it's mis-used for, every action game chat has me thinking of all these aggressive young gamers running around with French purses.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2013 11:29 PM

That star system is named after a purse? Huh. I did not know that.

Posted by: otho at April 13, 2013 07:32 PM (9gNQd)

410 If it is restricted stock, the cost basis is probably zero. All of the gain as of the vesting date is considered ordinary income.

So the cost basis is then the entire gift of shares x vesting day price?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:32 PM (doBIb)

411 #403

Get into a whole other sort of role playing, don't it?

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 07:33 PM (kcfmt)

412 Hold your hands out in front of you at arms length, forming a one inch triangle with your thumbs and index fingers. With both eyes open, look through that triangle at an object across the room (light switch e.g.). Alternately close one eye, then the other, whichever eye you are looking through the triangle to the target object is your dominant eye. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2013 10:28 PM (pxDth) The less painful way to determine that is to lace your fingers together comfortably. Which ever thumb is on top is your dominate hand. As in. I'm honestly right handed but left hand dominate. Indecisive? No, why do you ask? Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 10:33 PM (wbeNt) For distant objects, I am right eyed (though for close-up objects I'm left-eyed). When I fold my hands, I am left hand dominant, though I write with my right hand, but use a mouse with my left hand. I also wear my watch and ride a skateboard like a left-hander.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2013 07:33 PM (Vk2pI)

413 EC just file an extension and corner a CPA in their office to explain these arcane incantations. If you have to sacrifice a cock to read its entrails and sprinkle coffee over them, so be it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:34 PM (rYImi)

414 Tonight I was scolded by the lovely spouse for buying hard-to-find rifle ammo. Then, on the forum where I bought it, at "market" price I'll add, and local, some serious noob to the site posted that he had just sold similar for about 1/2 the price of what was advertised ( and what I'm paying). Not sure why he felt compelled to share his generosity/stupidity.

So I was bashed by the spouse, and then a total stranger, for making what I thought was a reasonable purchase.

Just had to air that.

As you were.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 07:34 PM (4Mv1T)

415 That star system is named after a purse? Huh. I did not know that. Posted by: otho at April 13, 2013 11:32 PM (9gNQd) Little grey aliens from Zeta Reticuli are crying right now.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 07:34 PM (bxiXv)

416 What does hand dominate mean? I've heard of handiness, and eye dominance but not hand dominance.

Posted by: toby928© at April 13, 2013 07:35 PM (QupBk)

417 412. Yes. Unless you paid something for it (and I am presuming you did not), then the entire amount as of the vesting date should be considered ordinary income.

Oh, and disclaimer thing again.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 07:35 PM (8112S)

418 Just had a cool phone conversation with my sister-in-law earlier today. She just bought her first gun this afternoon (M&P22 pistol), while my brother bought his first AR15. They're both happy as clams. She's dying to get the whole family together at the range the next time I drive up to visit. Thing is, three years ago, with my brother she was all "you are NOT buying a gun and bringing it into this house". But things have changed enough that she INSISTED that I take her eldest son to the range a few months back for his first time. Damn, I love that woman. Honored to be in the same family. 'sup jackwagons.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2013 07:35 PM (MBqvE)

419 I remember being shocked to discover that "reticule" was actually a word - just not what 90% of people use it to mean. It's actually somewhat amusing given what it's mis-used for, every action game chat has me thinking of all these aggressive young gamers running around with French purses. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2013 11:29 PM (bxiXv) So, a reticulated python, then, is a large snake carrying a number of small purses?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 13, 2013 07:35 PM (29+x5)

420 What the fuck?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:35 PM (GEICT)

421 So a reticulated python carries a purse?

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 13, 2013 07:35 PM (fvMJE)

422 Though taking tax advice from a sock moron seems at least a little scary.

But that's just me.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 07:36 PM (8112S)

423
Bell has a website up for the V-280 proposal. Has a video and more pics:

www.bellv280.com

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 13, 2013 07:36 PM (kdS6q)

424 Yeah, crying into their purses no doubt.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:36 PM (rYImi)

425 My question: I'm trying to figure out the 'cost basis' for my Turbo Tax stuff. Is it the number of shares left to me on the day of vesting @ the market price of that day minus the price I sold them at fifteen days later? Or is it another figure? My eternal thanks to the moron(s) that can help me out. Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 09:37 PM (doBIb) EC, If I remember correctly, and that's a big if, your cost basis should be the total amount of the market value of ALL the shares on the day they are vested to you. The difference between the cost basis and what you sold them at fifteen days later are your capital gains. The shares withheld are for the estimated taxes on additional income, granted in stock. Hope this helps.

Posted by: LindaFell at April 13, 2013 07:36 PM (PGO8C)

426 Ignore it and get a cob to just delete the offensive shit until it goes away.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 13, 2013 07:37 PM (mGBy8)

427 So a reticulated python is a large snake carrying a number of small purses? --- No, but it's apt to become part of a number of small purses.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 13, 2013 07:37 PM (GmTxn)

428 For all those occasions when a teacher pushes obvious leftist B.S. and insists that she's right and the student is wrong, the student ought to just reply: "I will, then, be a toad."

Posted by: Wicked Toad at April 13, 2013 07:37 PM (Vk2pI)

429 Dammit.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 13, 2013 07:38 PM (fvMJE)

430 Little grey aliens from Zeta Reticuli are crying right now.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2013 11:34 PM

Of course they are. The little bitches are from the french purse star system.

Posted by: otho at April 13, 2013 07:38 PM (9gNQd)

431 Well, I promised myself I would go to bed at a decent hour tonight. I would like to get up early enough to accommodate the increased travel time if I ride my bike to church. (I'm slow.) On my prayer list: NJROTC unit and families, and rain for the drought-stricken. See you all next week!

Posted by: Mindy says Gravity kills! Outlaw gravity if it will save even one life! at April 13, 2013 07:38 PM (wk9P4)

432 I have only around 2k rounds

I dont need practice, I can hit what i shoot at

What about different bullet types?

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 07:38 PM (Tete0)

433 EC--LindaFell and I agree, for what that is worth.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 07:39 PM (8112S)

434 What does hand dominate mean? I've heard of handiness, and eye dominance but not hand dominance. Posted by: toby928Â© at April 13, 2013 11:35 PM (QupBk) It means discriminating against feet!

Posted by: Podiatrists everywhere at April 13, 2013 07:39 PM (Vk2pI)

435 One-inch triangle?

Eqilateral with 1" sides says a little more.

Right triangle with a 1" hypotenuse sez a lot more.

Just chew on that for an arc minute.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 07:39 PM (CuDT2)

436 So, AP have you bankrupted yourself on new models yet?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:39 PM (GEICT)

437 Now if we could just pot the Zeta Reticuli system into a side pocket.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:39 PM (rYImi)

438 little grey aliens from Zeta Reticuli are crying right now. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2013 11:34 PM Wussies

Posted by: Reptilians from the Draco Cluster at April 13, 2013 07:40 PM (Vk2pI)

439 New models? Of what?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:40 PM (rYImi)

440 441 New models? Of what? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 11:40 PM (rYImi) Models prob was a poor word choice. The anime...figurines?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:41 PM (GEICT)

441 >>>hand dominate mean?

I think that means whether you are "right" handed, or "right" hand dominate, or left handed.

I know it does for eyes, anyway.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 07:41 PM (4Mv1T)

442 Hi crazy Saturday ont'rs. How are you, and who's drinking what? Sorry did not read the comments, I drove the truck and camper home from camping today, eyes are tired. It's a bitch getting old.

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 13, 2013 07:41 PM (vgd4f)

443 http://tinyurl.com/cqvhejo At the Last Refuge, Conservative Treehouse: Regarding that picture of the empty media seats at the Kermit Gosnell trial: "Instead of reporting on the absence of reporting. If they want to really Â‘out mediaÂ’ the media and simutaneously actually Â“push backÂ” against that which they rail against; Then why not use judo instead of karate? What would be more effective? Showcasing the absence - OR Â– filling the void? What do you think would be the outcome if one one day a bunch of people walked in to fill these benches? People like: Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Jim Hoft, Matt Drudge, TEAM Breitbart, Dana Loesch, Greta Van Sustern, Mike Huckabee, etcÂ… etcÂ…. Â….All of them, one-by-one- just walk in, and filled those benches." PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at April 13, 2013 07:43 PM (e7KZr)

444 >>>It's a bitch getting old.

That's the fact, jack. PT for a screwed up shoulder for three weeks, eye surgery last week so I can see again, and pretty sure I need a root canal.

Not my week to quit sniffing glue.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 07:44 PM (4Mv1T)

445 Frangibles
AP
HP

Mix and match

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 07:44 PM (Tete0)

446 Dude, have you seen this?

http://tinyurl.com/co54n47

For myself, I'll use MAME and other emulators on my HTPC project but this is still a fantastic bit of work.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 07:45 PM (kcfmt)

447 Not my week to quit sniffing glue. Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 11:44 PM (4Mv1T) Or maybe the best week for it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:45 PM (GEICT)

448 If I remember correctly, and that's a big if, your cost basis should be the total amount of the market value of ALL the shares on the day they are vested to you. The difference between the cost basis and what you sold them at fifteen days later are your capital gains. The shares withheld are for the estimated taxes on additional income, granted in stock. Hope this helps.

Linda,

The cost basis works out to be much higher than the net sale figure that I received fifteen days after vesting. Turbo Tax then makes it look like I had a huge capital gain loss of several thousand dollars, and that doesn't seem correct to me. The huge difference between the total of ALL shares @ vesting day price and what I got out of the sale is from the withheld shares taken from me to pay for taxes.

Am I doing something wrong?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:45 PM (doBIb)

449

@ EC

Hey, if you're still around...

The day that those stocks became 'yours'...that is the cost basis that you use.

You're figuring Capital Gains, right?

Look up what their value was, on the day that they finally became yours.

Then, deduct that amount from your Sale of them.

That gives you your 'Gain' that is subject to the CapGains Tax.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 07:45 PM (Da0Xz)

450 Hey 'rons. Nice to be back at another OOT.

Gotta question/new topic for y'all. Just finished dinner tonight. It consisted of:
- the remains of a bag of Flamin' Hot Funyuns
- four wedges of Queso Fresco-Chipotle Laughing Cow Cheese, dabbed with Habanero Tabasco
- and washed down with some Minute Maid Cherry Limeade.

In the rons' opinion, would/should the above be classified as a (a) white trash dinner, (b) post-modernist dinner, or (c) SoCal junk food dinner?

And would love to ask others here what their all-time wackiest dinner course was.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 13, 2013 07:45 PM (7B7jB)

451 Still waiting on the two from E2046. Their site says the kits shipped back on the 28th.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:46 PM (rYImi)

452 Infidel @392 John taught me that. Don't know where he learned it. Seems to be accurate.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 13, 2013 07:46 PM (wbeNt)

453 Prayers on the way madamemayhem!!!!! God Bless You !!!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 13, 2013 07:46 PM (HbuYa)

454 - excerpt from Eight Story of the Fifth Day as told by Filomena. Decameron by Boccaccio. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 11:10 PM (rYImi) Always preferred the Decameron story of how Rustico taught Alibech how to put the devil into hell.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2013 07:47 PM (MBqvE)

455 445 Excellent idea. The media twist themselves into contortionists knots trying to spin that one.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 07:48 PM (gqEUi)

456 396 14. Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 09:37 PM (doBIb)

EC--if you are still around, I can explain how restricted stock taxation works.

Just let me know, as that was about 380 posts ago

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 11:28 PM (8112S)

And, as a CPA with decades of experience......always be skeptical of tax advice that is based on the personal authority of the advisor (pause for laughter). If it isn't in the Code or the Regs, it is well down the road to being worth something between "squat" and "bupkis." Get the advice, but make sure it makes sense to you and checks out against IRS publications.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 13, 2013 07:48 PM (97oEa)

457 444 Hi crazy Saturday ont'rs. How are you, and who's drinking what? Sorry did not read the comments, I drove the truck and camper home from camping today, eyes are tired. It's a bitch getting old.

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 13, 2013 11:41 PM (vgd4f)

---

Whiskey. Silly rabbit, camping is for kids. Haven't been since I was one.

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 07:48 PM (BVkEs)

458 Hey, if you're still around...

The day that those stocks became 'yours'...that is the cost basis that you use.
You're figuring Capital Gains, right?

Look up what their value was, on the day that they finally became yours.
Then, deduct that amount from your Sale of them.

Which figure do I use for when the stocks became mine? The entire award of stock, or the portion I had remaining after the withholding?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:48 PM (doBIb)

459

451...Am I doing something wrong?

Are you sure you're entering the amounts in the right place?

It can get a little bit confusing, the way that CapGains form is laid out.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 07:48 PM (Da0Xz)

460

So IL Repubes split on gay marriage. Were they not paying attention to Rinsed Preibus and the RNC yesterday?

http://bit.ly/17ytw3z

Posted by: RushBabe at April 13, 2013 07:50 PM (orY9d)

461 Ill Tempered Cur, when I pulled the book from the shelf and let it open on its own. That is the story it opened to.

Do not remember the Rustico story. Think Poul Anderson took a whack at that scenario. Or was it Niven? Anyway the demon boasts it will always appear in the circle. Summoner asks the demon to freeze time for a bit for everyone except the summoner. So the summoner ponders the problem, erases the pentagram, and redraws its. Time unfreezes and the demon tries to reappear in the pentagram which has been drawn on his stomach.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:50 PM (rYImi)

462 And, as a CPA with decades of experience......always be skeptical of tax advice that is based on the personal authority of the advisor (pause for laughter). If it isn't in the Code or the Regs, it is well down the road to being worth something between "squat" and "bupkis." Get the advice, but make sure it makes sense to you and checks out against IRS publications. Posted by: cthulhu at April 13, 2013 11:48 PM (97oEa) Alternately, you could just fill out the 1040 any way you like and staple a copy of one's Democrat Party membership to the front. Audit-proof.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2013 07:50 PM (MBqvE)

463 What is the correct combination???

I dont need practice

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 07:51 PM (Tete0)

464
Are you sure you're entering the amounts in the right place?
It can get a little bit confusing, the way that CapGains form is laid out.

I'm trying to figure out what number to use when I calculate the cost basis.

Do I use the entire award of stock or only the portion I have left after withholding?

If I use the entire award, then TT shows me having a HUGE capgains loss when I input the net sale figure.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:51 PM (doBIb)

465 I see we are moving from being a "smart military blog" to "how can I forestall the inevitable income tax blog"...legally of course.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 07:52 PM (4Mv1T)

466 Does the retard come with the platinum membership or does everyone get to see him?

Posted by: toby928© at April 13, 2013 07:52 PM (QupBk)

467 Talk about Karma. I dissed Chuck Schumer in the last thread, and then I walked down to the mailbox. Halfway there, I slipped in something and fell on my ass. I looked at the bottom of my boot and damned if there wasn't a huge stinking pattie of Chuck Schumer all over it.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 13, 2013 07:52 PM (qIFL7)

468

EC,

Use the portion you had remaining after the withholding.

That's what you sold.

That's what generated the Gain, that is subject to the CapGains Tax.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 07:52 PM (Da0Xz)

469 462 So IL Repubes split on gay marriage. Were they not paying attention to Rinsed Preibus and the RNC yesterday? http://bit.ly/17ytw3z Posted by: RushBabe at April 13, 2013 11:50 PM (orY9d) Seems like more than a simple split.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:53 PM (GEICT)

470 So when can we expect raykon to get nuked tonight.

Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2013 07:53 PM (LI48c)

471
http://tinyurl.com/co54n47

Good thing I quit sniffing glue this week. The narrator's whistling through his teeth probably woulda caused me to ram my head through my computer screen or something.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 07:54 PM (CuDT2)

472 #463

Convergent Series

Niven

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 07:54 PM (kcfmt)

473 >>>Does the retard come with the platinum membership or does everyone get to see him?

I have the EBT card version of AoS HQ. And he's here. Who knew these EBT cards were so valuable??!!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 07:54 PM (4Mv1T)

474 Hey Tobacco, which forum did you post about your ammo buy?

My wife is threatening to leave me or make equivalent precious gem stone purchases to get even with me.

I lucked out and bought some M855 'green tips' at $9/box.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:54 PM (doBIb)

475 BCochran, apparently this kit is very popular. Only 2 left in stock.
http://www.e2046.com/product/8871

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:55 PM (rYImi)

476 468 Does the retard come with the platinum membership or does everyone get to see him? Posted by: toby928Â© at April 13, 2013 11:52 PM (QupBk) Well, you and I can see him, so it must be at least Platinum level. PS - trying to type after having taken an ambien is damn near impossible.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:55 PM (GEICT)

477

466...I'm trying to figure out what number to use when I calculate the cost basis.

Do I use the entire award of stock or only the portion I have left after withholding?

If I use the entire award, then TT shows me having a HUGE capgains loss when I input the net sale figure.

--------

It's simple.

You only owe CapGains on what you SOLD.

Use the number of stocks...the date they became yours...at what Value they were on that day.

That is your Cost.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 07:56 PM (Da0Xz)

478 Here is an example.

1,000 shares, with a price of $40 on vesting date. This results in ordinary income of $40,000. Your basis in the shares is now $40.

You sell the shares 2 weeks later for $35. You have a capital loss of $5.00 per share, or $5,000.

Does that help?

Scanner Dan is (still) not authorized to give tax advice, legal or accounting advice.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 07:56 PM (8112S)

479 Am I doing something wrong? Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 11:45 PM (doBIb) No, it just looks like you took a loss in capital gains. You still have to pay taxes on the income but have no capital gains. It may actually reduce your taxes a bit on your income due to the loss.

Posted by: LindaFell at April 13, 2013 07:56 PM (PGO8C)

480 Thanks epobirs. Conflating Operation Chaos again. A Djinn with hydrophobia...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 07:57 PM (rYImi)

481 It's interesting that the legends, has-beens and also-rand of the English music scene are respectful and deferential to Thatcher and are standing up to their younger fans. The oldsters of the American entertainment scene are the ones that scream loudest for communism, with a few exceptions.

Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2013 07:57 PM (I2LwF)

482 EC- Tonight's ammo purchase indiscretion was brought to us by Carolinashootersclub.com

I also really like armslist.com. You can specify "NC", then your locality.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 07:57 PM (4Mv1T)

483 same here

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 07:57 PM (Tete0)

484 I can see why AP

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 13, 2013 07:58 PM (GEICT)

485 So, how many of you suckers paid over 18% in taxes this year?

Posted by: Barky McFucknut at April 13, 2013 07:58 PM (BVkEs)

486 Ill Tempered Cur, when I pulled the book from the shelf and let it open on its own. That is the story it opened to. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 11:50 PM (rYImi) Interesting. That is actually one of the more celebrated of the Decameron stories. The Rustico/Alibech story is decidedly more light-hearted........and bawdy. Putting the Devil into Hell is a euphemism. Like the wild mambo, or the hunka-chunka.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2013 07:58 PM (MBqvE)

487 Use the portion you had remaining after the withholding.
That's what you sold.
That's what generated theGain, that is subject to theCapGains Tax.

Ok, that just "seems" right to me. The I had about 2/3 of the shares after withholding.

So I calculate the cost basis by using the 2/3 figure and the day of vesting price, correct?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 07:59 PM (doBIb)

488

EC...in case I wasn't clear...

You use the 'remainder of stocks'...the stocks that became yours to Sell.

That is the number of stocks that you Sold, right?

They withheld a portion of your awarded stocks, to pay your Income Taxes on them.

You didn't Sell those.

They did.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 07:59 PM (Da0Xz)

489

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 07:59 PM (CuDT2)

490 416 That's just the way it goes. AND JUST AS OFTEN, IT GOES THE OTHER WAY. Whadja get me?

Posted by: DAve at April 13, 2013 07:59 PM (XDC0v)

491 Well Ill Tempered Cur I guess some stuff has fallen into the cracks in ye olde brain bucket. Got so much cluttering the thing up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 08:00 PM (rYImi)

492 Just saw a really cute skit/tribute to Margaret Thatcher while 'boycotting' SNL.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 13, 2013 08:01 PM (UOjzE)

493

489...So I calculate the cost basis by using the 2/3 figure and the day of vesting price, correct?

----

Correct.

That is what you Sold...that is what you generated a Gain on...a taxable Gain.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 08:01 PM (Da0Xz)

494 If/when CBD shows up tonight, I reiterate my astounded-ness ... not only could I NOT find .416 Rigby loads in the range I once saw them, at C-than-D, I found stronger .458 Winchester loads, and even above the level I last saw them. Apparently, commercial .458 Winchester loads are more powerful than .416 Rigby ... when did this happen? I'm still surprised.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 13, 2013 08:01 PM (6if9x)

495 Is there a way to refresh the glow-in-the-dark (Tritium?) dots on milsurp nightsights?

Posted by: toby928© at April 13, 2013 08:01 PM (QupBk)

496 Should you oil magazines?

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:02 PM (Tete0)

497 No Keymaster listed but we do have a Gatekeeper.
http://www.e2046.com/product/10123

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 08:02 PM (rYImi)

498 DAve- I am not proud to say I paid .60 a rd for 500 rds Federal .223 FMJ. But that seems to be as good a price, generally speaking, as I have seen recently.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 08:03 PM (4Mv1T)

499 My question: I'm trying to figure out the 'cost basis' for my Turbo Tax stuff. Is it the number of shares left to me on the day of vesting @ the market price of that day minus the price I sold them at fifteen days later? Or is it another figure? My eternal thanks to the moron(s) that can help me out. Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 09:37 PM (doBIb) *************** Fuck it, play it safe and just send a check for every cent you made from the time it was issued until today. @madammayhem - Prayers sent

Posted by: Boomer Redneque votes Galt/Rearden '16! Burn, baby, burn... at April 13, 2013 08:03 PM (eQnzo)

500 497 Is there a way to refresh the glow-in-the-dark (Tritium?) dots on milsurp nightsights?

Posted by: toby928Â© at April 14, 2013 12:01 AM (QupBk)

No maam, 5 years or so is all they are worth

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:03 PM (Tete0)

501 How do?

Posted by: Jake in Idaho at April 13, 2013 08:04 PM (zzeVM)

502 #483

The US celebs have never known the kind of confiscatory tax rate the UK had when George Harrison wrote 'Taxman.' Remember the lyric "There's one for you, nineteen for me?"

95% rate.

The thing to recall about the absurd US rates of yore that leftys pine for, is that nobody actually paid them. There were so many ways to go around it that only a fool would ever do it. A big reason the Reagan tax cuts were so effective was that a lot of the dodges and loopholes were eliminated but the new rate was so much less painful that many simply paid it.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 08:04 PM (kcfmt)

503 That English assignment "Why Jews are Evil" doesn't seem like a bad idea to me.

Some jerkoff called "Zimriel" offered some thoughts at the Blogmocracy on why the execution of this idea was flawed. I paraphrase:

I can see two possible reasons for the exercise. One is that thereÂ’s no understanding history unless you understand the protagonists. Another is to construct an argument for a standpoint you might not believe in (so you can tear it down later).

The problem with all this is that itÂ’s an English assignment for the tenth grade. It relies too much on specific historical knowledge for this level in this department.

If this was a more general assignment on historical controversies, and some student wanted to do this as part of that, I could go with that. Same with historical-fiction. (In which event I would, however, want to know what the student was up to.)

If the next door history class wanted an essay in Nazi justifications for their anti-Jewish laws, that would imply more personal distance from the topic; this would also be acceptable.

Not how this teacher did this in this case, though. IÂ’m putting this down to clumsiness by this teacher -- tentatively. But thereÂ’s definitely probable clause to question the teacher for motive.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 13, 2013 08:04 PM (QTHTd)

504 I don't want to get into an argument with Wheatie, but I don't think that is correct. The entire amount, including the withheld shares, should be taken into your taxable income as ordinary income. The shares that are withheld should represent withholding--just like withholding as part of your paycheck.

Depending on your tax situation, that withholding may be too much or it may be too little, just like the withholding in your paycheck. It is withheld at the IRS standard rate for such transactions.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 08:05 PM (8112S)

505 Evenin' Jake

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 08:05 PM (4Mv1T)

506 446 Tobacco Road, haha. If we only knew when we were younger what a gift it is to wake up feeling great or not have to get up in the middle of the night to, ummm, just gonna say it, pee.

along with the aches,etc.

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 13, 2013 08:05 PM (vgd4f)

507 A big reason the Reagan tax cuts were so effective was that a lot of the dodges and loopholes were eliminated but the new rate was so much less painful that many simply paid it. Yep. At one time I deducted the cost of telephone service because having a phone was a requirement of my job. And it was legal.

Posted by: toby928© at April 13, 2013 08:05 PM (QupBk)

508 So, how many of you suckers paid over 18% in taxes this year?

Thanks to Obama's cigarette taxes, I likely did, or I will soon. And I make under 50k. It's worth noting that I was making about 25% more when he was elected, and gas prices were much lower.

I didn't vote for him. I knew he was lying before he opened his mouth at the '04 democrat convention.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 08:06 PM (CuDT2)

509 476 That's awesome. Smart move.

Posted by: DAve at April 13, 2013 08:07 PM (XDC0v)

510 Oh, yeah! It's my burfday!

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 08:08 PM (CuDT2)

511 Ok, just to be clear, let me write out an example using some example numbers:

I was awarded 300 shares of restricted stock to be vested in 3 years time.

Three years later, they vest at a price of $50/share.

My employer takes 100 shares from the award and uses them to withhold for the taxes.

I am left with 200 shares.

The price of the stock dips a little to around $48/share.

I tell the brokerage firm to hold the sale until the price reaches $49 since I don't want to wait until they reach over $50 again (and I'm pessimistic they will).

Fifteen days later, the stock price climbs to $49/share.

Brokerage executes the sale of 200 shares at $49/share.

My cost basis is 200 x $50 = $10,000.

My sale price is 200 x $49 = $9800.

My capital loss is $200.

I do NOT owe any cap gains taxes, but the $9800 is added to my 2012 income figure and taxed accordingly.

Do I have everything correct?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 08:08 PM (doBIb)

512 I think in this variant paint scheme this figure kit looks much better than the gloss black and gold one is supposed to paint.
http://www.e2046.com/gallery/view/12774

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 08:09 PM (rYImi)

513 I knew he was lying before he opened his mouth at the '04 democrat convention.

"There's no red state America or blue state America; but I'm going to deliver this humbug at the blue state convention, because I'm a fascist hack who wants a one party state" is what I got out of that.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 13, 2013 08:10 PM (QTHTd)

514 Should you oil magazines? A light coat of oil does wonders for the proper disposing of errant Newsweek mags.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2013 08:10 PM (MBqvE)

515 500 New that's a GREAT price around here- we're usually @ .65/rd. on private party sales

Posted by: DAve at April 13, 2013 08:10 PM (XDC0v)

516

506 I don't want to get into an argument with Wheatie, but I don't think that is correct. The entire amount, including the withheld shares, should be taken into your taxable income as ordinary income. The shares that are withheld should represent withholding--just like withholding as part of your paycheck.

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Right, ScannerDan.

But that wasn't EC's question.

His 'taxable income' is not subject to Capital Gains.

Only the stocks that he Sold...at a Gain...are subject to Capital Gains Tax.

But I see what you're saying.

Using the 'entire award' as his cost basis, would reduce his CapGains Tax.

But...I don't think the IRS would look at it that way.

He could try to do it that way, though.

It's arguable.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 08:10 PM (Da0Xz)

517 Some jerkoff called "Zimriel" ... heheh, lulz

Posted by: soothsayer at April 13, 2013 08:11 PM (KwX0v)

518 Craig Poe, I love camping. The night sky was amazing, too many stars. No phone, drinking beer when I damn please, fishing, food just tastes better. One of my favorite things to do!

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 13, 2013 08:11 PM (vgd4f)

519 Happy Burfday Ray!

Posted by: Craig Poe at April 13, 2013 08:12 PM (BVkEs)

520 Do I have everything correct? Posted by: EC at April 14, 2013 12:08 AM (doBIb) How do they keep 100 shares as tax withholding? was it sold? if nobody bought the 100 shares there is not transaction

Posted by: Jake in Idaho at April 13, 2013 08:12 PM (zzeVM)

521 506 I don't want to get into an argument with Wheatie, but I don't think that is correct. The entire amount, including the withheld shares, should be taken into your taxable income as ordinary income. The shares that are withheld should represent withholding--just like withholding as part of your paycheck. Depending on your tax situation, that withholding may be too much or it may be too little, just like the withholding in your paycheck. It is withheld at the IRS standard rate for such transactions. Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 14, 2013 12:05 AM (8112S) EC, I tend to agree with Scanner on this. ALL the shares issued at vesting are part of your cost basis, including what is withheld.

Posted by: LindaFell at April 13, 2013 08:12 PM (PGO8C)

522 You have $15,000 of ordinary income, and $5,000 has been withheld to pay the taxes. You also have a capital loss of $400.

Scanner Dan is not authorized to provide tax, accounting or legal advice.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 08:13 PM (8112S)

523 DAve- That's exactly what I have seen, best case, and why I bought. Plus the seller is only 2 miles away. My view is that popular ammo these days is like having silver buried under the house.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 08:13 PM (4Mv1T)

524 Happy Birthday Ray! God Bless, and many more

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 13, 2013 08:13 PM (vgd4f)

525 Do I have everything correct?

Posted by: EC at April 14, 2013 12:08 AM (doBIb)

So you are smarter than the rest of us?

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:13 PM (Tete0)

526 517 And I like private party sales 'cuz they're consummated at some Mc Donald's parking lot and noone's the wiser

Posted by: DAve at April 13, 2013 08:13 PM (XDC0v)

527 How do they keep 100 shares as tax withholding?

They took 100 shares and sold them to come up with the money to pay the estimated taxes on the day of vesting. I never saw any of that money, it was done automatically.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 08:13 PM (doBIb)

528

513...Do I have everything correct?

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Yep.

Looks right to me.

I've had to fuck with this stuff...a lot...because my hubby likes to dabble in the Market.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 08:14 PM (Da0Xz)

529 I'd say cleaned, not oiled.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 13, 2013 08:15 PM (FC8Yl)

530 We will all be rich

soon

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:15 PM (Tete0)

531 Gordon: No; oil and other petrochemicals / solvents are bad for the ammo you load into the magazine. I try to get all the bore cleaner, etc out of the firearm before inserting a loaded mag.

Posted by: PabloD at April 13, 2013 08:16 PM (FnIlQ)

532 TY, Serious You Guys!

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 08:16 PM (CuDT2)

533 They took 100 shares and sold them to come up with the money to pay the estimated taxes on the day of vesting. I never saw any of that money, it was done automatically. Posted by: EC at April 14, 2013 12:13 AM (doBIb) what happened to the $$ 3 years ago. did they pay it to the FEDS at that time?

Posted by: Jake in Idaho at April 13, 2013 08:16 PM (zzeVM)

534 530. No offense, but dabbling in the market is very different then dealing with Section 83 tax implications for stock based compensations.

Just saying...

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 08:17 PM (8112S)

535 525 Absolutely. bird in the hand, esp. for me here in Kalif. I'll take the risk of a (minor) loss (IF the price ever comes down significantly) to have all I could use in the next ten years right now. People talk shit all day long about some great price they paid once but I can't stalk all the walmarts at 7 each morning- sorry I got a life

Posted by: DAve at April 13, 2013 08:17 PM (XDC0v)

536 Ok, I'm getting two different answers. Scanner and Linda say to use the entire award of shares to calculate the cost basis, while wheatie says only the remainder after withholding.

Using the entire award, the cost basis becomes 300 x $50 = $15,000.

My cap loss is then 200 x $49 = $9800 so $15,000 - $9800 = $5200.

That's a huge cap loss compared to my example with the remainder shares.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 08:17 PM (doBIb)

537 A light coat of CLP on the spring couldn't hurt.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 08:18 PM (CuDT2)

538 happy bday Ray

Posted by: DAve at April 13, 2013 08:18 PM (XDC0v)

539 LOL

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:18 PM (Tete0)

540

No wait, EC...

About this part:

I do NOT owe any cap gains taxes, but the $9800 is added to my 2012 income figure and taxed accordingly.

If you already paid Income Taxes on the value of the stock...you may not have to add it to your 'taxable income'.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 08:18 PM (Da0Xz)

541 537- My view exactly. It's not like I have a giant stash, but I like to replace what I shoot, and most of the prices are "above market".

I was able to buy at .44 rd for 223 and 556 a few months ago, but that seems to have vanished, unless it is steel case stuff.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 08:20 PM (4Mv1T)

542 If you already paid Income Taxes on the value of the stock...you may not have to add it to your 'taxable income'.

You're right.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 08:21 PM (doBIb)

543 I am so rich on stocks made in paper money, if I could I would divest and explain it all to you for a profit...

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:21 PM (Tete0)

544 You sold at $49. Your cap loss is 200*($50-$49) or $200.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 08:21 PM (8112S)

545 Ace???

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:22 PM (Tete0)

546 Jesus, I give up. Do what you want.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 08:22 PM (8112S)

547 EC- You realize you can file your taxes here, and Ace can give you a refund advance through his Amazon store link. Right?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 08:22 PM (4Mv1T)

548 RE: Northern Lights - I saw something outside. Can't tell what it is. It is cloudy, but the clouds seem lit up from behind in an unusual way. There is very little "light pollution" here, so don't think that is it. It gets near pitch-black here (heavily wooded suburbs) at times.

Posted by: Baldy at April 13, 2013 08:23 PM (opS9C)

549 I was able to buy at .44 rd for 223 and 556 a few months ago, but that seems to have vanished, unless it is steel case stuff.

The only places you can find those prices are at Walmart when they restock the shelves at 7:00AM. A friend was able to get one of those 100rd value packs from Federal at around 35cents/rd.

Then I see them on Armslist for 80cents/rd. LOL!

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 08:23 PM (doBIb)

550 Northern Lights viewing map of US: http://preview.tinyurl.com/c6zqol4

Posted by: Baldy at April 13, 2013 08:24 PM (opS9C)

551 1. STS-1 launch, previous thread - kind of amazing. Build a big pop bottle rocket, attach a cartoonishly blobby glider, stick some people inside and light the fuse. Insane. Amazing. And so long ago now. 2. ...? 3. I forgot to celebrate grilled cheese sandwich day in time, but Mrs made up for it today with a grilled tuna and cheese sandwich with a dippin' sauce made from I'm not sure what all but it had her Santa Fe style green chili. MMmm-mm. 4. This may be my final message until the next one.

Posted by: a mindful webworker on th dsktp 4 a chng at April 13, 2013 08:24 PM (U13jb)

552

538...That's a huge cap loss compared to my example with the remainder shares.

Right.

It would be.

But you didn't 'Sell' that total award...you only sold the remainder after the withholding.

A CapGain Loss can be applied to other sales...but you have to fill out other forms for that.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 08:24 PM (Da0Xz)

553 Your chance of getting audited over this, if the numbers are as you say, are zero. The stock was deferred compensation. How and what did your employer report? Imagine this. You are awarded what looks to be, at your time of being fully vested, $15K worth of stock. Since your employer is wanting to be on the right side of the IRS, she withholds one third of the shares. The floor falls through before either you or she sells shares, and what was $15K on V-day is now worth, say, $5K. No worry, she sells and ships $1,666 to the feds. You have a $15K gross income award, have prepaid only $1.66K in tax, have only $3.33K in the account, and a $10K loss, short term. You need to know what she reported to the feds. Then play it on TurboTax. But as for audit, no way you'll get a followup. They have bigger fish to fry.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at April 13, 2013 08:24 PM (PH+2B)

554

>>>I give up. Do what you want.

Well, that will require you taking off those pants.

Posted by: Don Lemon at April 13, 2013 08:25 PM (wcqZ4)

555 This may be my final message until the next one.
Posted by: a mindful webworker on th dsktp 4 a chng at April 14, 2013 12:24 AM (U13jb) Space and grilled cheese. Sounds like a Regular Show episode.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2013 08:26 PM (D00cy)

556 Who said I was wearing pants?

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 13, 2013 08:27 PM (8112S)

557 Asses, here we go again...

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:27 PM (Tete0)

558

>>Who said I was wearing pants?

Now you're just teasing.

Posted by: Don Lemon at April 13, 2013 08:28 PM (wcqZ4)

559 How and what did your employer report?

They reported the 100 shares withheld and took $5000 to pay the fed, state, SS, and medicare.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 08:30 PM (doBIb)

560 So... another grabass ONT?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 13, 2013 08:30 PM (QTHTd)

561

Craig Poe, I love camping. The night sky was amazing, too many stars. No phone, drinking beer when I damn please, fishing, food just tastes better. One of my favorite things to do!

Mine too, but last time little infidel and I went, the fuel pump went out on the Yukon. We were 21 miles up a dirt road and no cell service. We groan now, almost laugh, but walking out was a bitch. Rain, all sorts of stories on that trip. I'm ready to go again tho when it warms up.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 08:30 PM (gqEUi)

562 Enough Turbo Tax and Dow Jones ammo prices for me. I'm out. Nuke the troll while I'm gone.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 13, 2013 08:31 PM (4Mv1T)

563 "They have bigger fish to fry." Like me, please muddy the waters up and wear the bastards out.

Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2013 08:31 PM (XwDPQ)

564 563 Infidel It's not a true camping trip unless something goes wrong!

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 13, 2013 08:32 PM (vgd4f)

565 Jean is tired of wearing the chum-boy?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 08:33 PM (rYImi)

566 Yea, and I forgot the blue cheese stuffed burgers we were gonna cook. Didn't run out of beer tho.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 08:33 PM (gqEUi)

567 My specialty is hiking trips in the mountains during the summer in my shorts and t-shirt.

You've not lived until you been caught in a sleet storm up a mountain half nekkid

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 13, 2013 08:33 PM (QTHTd)

568 Anna, still fighting over a fuel tax issue that's insane.

Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2013 08:34 PM (XwDPQ)

569 Northern Lights NOAA - http://tinyurl.com/6u3om6p
Accuweather Facebook page: http://tinyurl.com/chg4lmj

Posted by: Baldy at April 13, 2013 08:35 PM (opS9C)

570 504 #483 The US celebs have never known the kind of confiscatory tax rate the UK had when George Harrison wrote 'Taxman.' Remember the lyric "There's one for you, nineteen for me?" 95% rate. The thing to recall about the absurd US rates of yore that leftys pine for, is that nobody actually paid them. There were so many ways to go around it that only a fool would ever do it. A big reason the Reagan tax cuts were so effective was that a lot of the dodges and loopholes were eliminated but the new rate was so much less painful that many simply paid it. Posted by: epobirs at April 14, 2013 12:04 AM (kcfmt) My favorite are the libs that pine for the tax rates of the 40's and 50's because they actually think those rates are why our economy boomed and we were manufacturing everything. They forget that every other industrialized country had been pretty much demolished back in the 30's and 40's, and we were the ones that were left unscathed.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 13, 2013 08:35 PM (Zd/NW)

571 BTH. roflmao!

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 08:35 PM (gqEUi)

572 EC, Don't claim another $9,800 in income

I agree, with the numbers you used as an example, your C/G loss would be $200. This is why the tax code needs to be overhauled. It is way too complicated. I understand where Wheatie is coming from. The "cost basis" could be several numbers depending on certain factors that depend on certain conditions, that depend on, blah, blah, blah.....

Posted by: LindaFell at April 13, 2013 08:36 PM (PGO8C)

573 Jean, well I saw this year my tax write-offs for expenses related for job search get reduced by 3/4.... it was like WTFrak?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 08:38 PM (rYImi)

574 Now that it's passed, finding out what's in the bill: -- 103.a. Those who claim "first" on blogs are now understood to be dangerously mentally unstable and will have their guns, knives, and hard hitty things confiscated if they are not turned in voluntarily. You know who you are. Turn yourselves in and don't make me come back there. 103.a.1. Rule 103.a. applies to those who claim to have made the first comment, regardless of whether they actually made the first comment. 103.b.s. By Executive Order, exception is made for commenters on the fair and balanced blogs that believe in co-existinche and putchoolee. That is all. Everyone else should resume your blogging, knowing that Uncle Brother is watching over your posts and comments, for the protection of Greater Society, and we have absolutely no intentions of coming after anyone else next, nope, nope. -----

Posted by: Obamacare™ Department of Social Well-Being, Education, and Splodey Things at April 13, 2013 08:38 PM (U13jb)

575 EC, next time tell your employer to buy $20k worth of ammo they can expense, and just load it in your trunk. Sell it in the parking lot of your local range if you need the cash.

Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2013 08:38 PM (XwDPQ)

576 the stock market is our friend and will make us all rich

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:38 PM (Tete0)

577

>>You've not lived until you been caught in a sleet storm up a mountain half nekkid

...on a bike.

Posted by: garrett at April 13, 2013 08:40 PM (wcqZ4)

578

the stock market is our friend and will make us all rich

Yea, right. Wish I could put a 'stop loss' on my 401k. It's gonna crash.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 08:42 PM (gqEUi)

579 EC, next time tell your employer to buy $20k worth of ammo they can expense, and just load it in your trunk. Sell it in the parking lot of your local range if you need the cash.

Hell yeah. $20k worth of ammo and Magpuls.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 08:42 PM (doBIb)

580 we will all be rich if only we can avoid paying taxes

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:42 PM (Tete0)

581 568 Infidel, yes, first rule of camping, one cooler must be full of beer

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 13, 2013 08:42 PM (vgd4f)

582 563 Infidel It's not a true camping trip unless something goes wrong! Forgetting the can opener ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 08:42 PM (TvO05)

583 >>You've not lived until you been caught in a sleet storm up a mountain half nekkid *** Like the summer when a Texas boy went to Wyoming to stay with his Aunt and Uncle and brought nothing but T-Shirts and Shorts @ 6000 ft

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 13, 2013 08:42 PM (MhA4j)

584 103.a.

first

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 13, 2013 08:44 PM (xKC/c)

585

Forgetting the can opener ...

That's what the leatherman is for.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 08:44 PM (gqEUi)

586 EC, Here's a wrench. We're you charged any brokerage fees for your transactions? You can add those to your cost basis.

Posted by: LindaFell at April 13, 2013 08:44 PM (PGO8C)

587 Anna, my fuel tax saga is nuts. Basically they want my firm to cough up $60K in reimbursements for "improper credits" they gave us for fuel use. Two problems, we didn't know they booked $60K in credit to us, so we never applied the credits; and second, the company in question is an IP holding shell - has absolutely nothing to do with fuel usage, it doesn't even buy coffee. It's been going on for months, one IRS office seems to be ok, but another is still screaming. I'm $20K down in attorney and accountant fees already.

Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2013 08:44 PM (X1lGS)

588 Evenin' all. Thank the Lord the nephews t-ball team is actually looking like they are playing a game with structure and rules. Last seasons was lonnnnnng.

Posted by: RWC at April 13, 2013 08:44 PM (Wl/Ht)

589 http://thefinancebuff.com/restricted-stock-units-rsu-and-turbotax-net-issuance.html

This page says the cost basis calculation is based on using the remainder shares and the vesting day price, not the entire award.

I think I'm done with this. For this year.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 08:44 PM (doBIb)

590 Here's a wrench. We're you charged any brokerage fees for your transactions? You can add those to your cost basis.

Yeah, $50.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 08:45 PM (doBIb)

591 Anna, my fuel tax saga is nuts. Basically they want my firm to cough up $60K in reimbursements for "improper credits" they gave us for fuel use. Two problems, we didn't know they booked $60K in credit to us, so we never applied the credits; and second, the company in question is an IP holding shell - has absolutely nothing to do with fuel usage, it doesn't even buy coffee. It's been going on for months, one IRS office seems to be ok, but another is still screaming. I'm $20K down in attorney and accountant fees already.

Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2013 08:46 PM (DcbLC)

592 Driving back to Missouri from Colorado..question: does Kansas have border checks for *contraband* now ?

Posted by: grease monkey at April 13, 2013 08:46 PM (DAV2T)

593 Hey, I knew that online Accounting degree would come in handy for somthin'

Posted by: LindaFell at April 13, 2013 08:47 PM (PGO8C)

594

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at April 13, 2013 11:43 PM (e7KZr)

ITA. I saw on twitter some were asking the local reporter if bloggers could fill the seats and he said yes. I'm hoping bloggers are there in force on Monday. We should show the MFM we don't NEED them.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 13, 2013 08:48 PM (KL49F)

595 Grease monkey, maybe going into Colorado

Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2013 08:48 PM (DcbLC)

596 Stock market genuineness we all are. Its so easy

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:48 PM (Tete0)

597 Last camping trip we had a pool, i cooked chicken nuggets over an open fire, and we had popsicles a 3 minute walk away. You know, roughing it.

Posted by: RWC at April 13, 2013 08:49 PM (Wl/Ht)

598 Going into CO, maybe. No-one gives a shit in TX or NM or OK.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 13, 2013 08:49 PM (QTHTd)

599 584 Adriane, yeah that sucks. Hubby and I always have something go wrong, hubby forgot his wallet this trip, no license or fishing license. I did all the driving, but we just chilled and ended up having a good time.

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 13, 2013 08:49 PM (vgd4f)

600 Where did we go wrong....

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:51 PM (Tete0)

601 I sure wish we could beat up on the IRS the way they beat up on us!

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 08:52 PM (gqEUi)

602 "Xerxes Could Cause Major Problems" http://tinyurl.com/cropezn O Rly?

Posted by: Leonidas at April 13, 2013 08:52 PM (Vk2pI)

603

>>Driving back to Missouri from Colorado..question: does Kansas have border checks for *contraband* now ?

None that I've ever encountered. Although I am usually coming in from Nebraska.

Posted by: garrett at April 13, 2013 08:52 PM (wcqZ4)

604 but we just chilled and ended up having a good time. Sounds like a plan ... even if it wasn't The Plan ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 08:53 PM (TvO05)

605

590...This page says the cost basis calculation is based on using the remainder shares and the vesting day price, not the entire award.

Yep...that's what I was trying to say.

I prolly should've explained it better.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 08:53 PM (Da0Xz)

606 It's so awesome that we're getting a week of Arctic weather, my first week of work and I gotta commute through it. Oh and I replaced my winter tyres bc. I thought winter was over. #$%^

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 13, 2013 08:54 PM (QTHTd)

607

I did all the driving, but we just chilled and ended up having a good time.

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 14, 2013 12:49 AM (vgd4f)

In April 2007, I had to travel to Blythe, California from Lakewood (near Long Beach) to take a test in order to be eligible for clerical/office support work with the State of California. Given the tests were usually held only in Sacramento, yet they were holding them in Blythe this time (which was only 220-or-so miles away versus 400 to Sacto), I booked a night in the nearby Motel 6 the night before and took the trip.

It was just one night, at Motel 6, and there was NOTHING to do in Blythe (talk about a depressed town... even the Payless ShoeSource was closed down) but take the test the morning after I arrived. Yet I had a much more enjoyable time away than I ever would have guessed. It was my first actual vacation from my home in over 20 years.

Of course, it probably didn't hurt that on my way back, I stopped at Morongo and made some of my gas money back playing Hold'em. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 13, 2013 08:56 PM (7B7jB)

608 603 "Xerxes Could Cause Major Problems"
http://tinyurl.com/cropezn
O Rly?
Posted by: Leonidas at April 14, 2013 12:52 AM (Vk2pI)
The next storm will be Yabbadabbadoo.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2013 08:56 PM (D00cy)

609 Dang blog comment formatting issues...

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 13, 2013 08:56 PM (7B7jB)

610 this cold snap sucks, throwing my planting schedule way the fuck off

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 08:57 PM (vJdyz)

611 A big thanks to Lindafell, Scanner Dan, and wheatie for your help and patience with me tonight!!!

Thank you all!

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 08:57 PM (doBIb)

612 611 this cold snap sucks, throwing my planting schedule way the fuck off
Posted by: The Dude at April 14, 2013 12:57 AM (vJdyz) Doggone global warming.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2013 08:58 PM (D00cy)

613

609...The next storm will be Yabbadabbadoo.

Harr!

Yeah, this storm-naming thing is getting ridiculous.

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 08:58 PM (Da0Xz)

614 and Dansai Bunri no Crime Edge is still one of the weirder animes I've ever seen

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 08:58 PM (vJdyz)

615 i despise global warming that's why I am buying a greenhouse

depends on where you live

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 08:59 PM (Tete0)

616 "Xerxes Could Cause Major Problems" http://tinyurl.com/cropezn O Rly? Posted by: Leonidas at April 14, 2013 12:52 AM (Vk2pI) The next storm will be Yabbadabbadoo. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2013 12:56 AM (D00cy) O Rly? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6w0r-ScEG4

Posted by: Boo Boo at April 13, 2013 09:00 PM (Vk2pI)

617 @ EC ....You're welcome, and I hope you get a refund!

Posted by: wheatie at April 13, 2013 09:00 PM (Da0Xz)

618 I wonder if that is the same nodrog.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 13, 2013 09:00 PM (bxiXv)

619 616 i despise global warming that's why I am buying a greenhouse

depends on where you live

Posted by: Gordon at April 14, 2013 12:59 AM (Tete0)
Then you might buy a redhouse.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2013 09:00 PM (D00cy)

620

It's so awesome that we're getting a week of Arctic weather, my first week of work and I gotta commute through it. Oh and I replaced my winter tyres bc. I thought winter was over. #$%^

We are getting rain on this side of the mtn. I'l have to go find the patio furniture out back tomorrow.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 09:01 PM (gqEUi)

621 EC ....You're welcome, and I hope you get a refund!

Yes, I still am. I had to put in extra withholding years ago because of some fluctuations in how my wife and I could declare the dependents with her ex-husband. I just give them the money and it's worth it to not have them bother with me with threats of quarterly tax payments.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 09:02 PM (doBIb)

622 Xerxes Could Cause Major Problems

I had high hopes for the boy, too.

Posted by: Daryavash at April 13, 2013 09:02 PM (QTHTd)

623 Hey The Dude and TPH, Funimation tomorrow night. A Certain Scientific Railgun S will be streaming.

http://www.goboiano.com/read-more-news.php?id=1045

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 09:03 PM (rYImi)

624 Good night all!

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 09:03 PM (doBIb)

625 EC, where is the DB-605??

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 09:04 PM (rYImi)

626

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 14, 2013 01:03 AM (rYImi)

still haven't even finished the first series and my time lately has been on My Little Nightmare which someone told me to watch on CR and it's pretty good for what I've watched so far

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 09:05 PM (vJdyz)

627 EC, where is the DB-605??

Ummm...it was in the hanger bay where I left it?

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 09:05 PM (doBIb)

628 Ray Gun is Dead

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 09:05 PM (Tete0)

629 Ok, I'm out for reals. Cya tomorrow all.

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2013 09:05 PM (doBIb)

630 Hey The Dude and TPH, Funimation tomorrow night. A Certain Scientific Railgun S will be streaming. http://www.goboiano.com/read-more-news.php?id=1045 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 14, 2013 01:03 AM (rYImi) It's ビリビリ time!

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at April 13, 2013 09:07 PM (Vk2pI)

631 Well just passing it along as an FYI. My Little Nightmare? which mythos have the Japanese used cute girls to represent?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 09:08 PM (rYImi)

632 A solitary man

Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2013 09:09 PM (Tete0)

633 I wonder if that is the same nodrog. a certain resemblance is perceivable

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 09:09 PM (TvO05)

634 Adriane, it has a certain nattering resemblance.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 09:10 PM (rYImi)

635 oh and though Random Hero may not have an original bone in it's body, the show is fucking awesome so far. The main character is a hoot and the actor works the loveable loser role with aplomb

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 09:11 PM (vJdyz)

636 And I wish the figure kits would arrive from E2046...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 09:12 PM (rYImi)

637 608 qdpsteve. Yeah, too bad we are not the president and can get a taxpayer paid vacation every other week.

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 13, 2013 09:13 PM (vgd4f)

638 Well the Powerball jackpot rolled over.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 13, 2013 09:13 PM (rYImi)

639 So has Gordon struck multiple sites? I remeber two other blogs where nodrog wasmamrunning troll.

Posted by: RWC at April 13, 2013 09:13 PM (Wl/Ht)

640 Well just passing it along as an FYI. My Little Nightmare? which mythos have the Japanese used cute girls to represent?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 14, 2013 01:08 AM (rYImi)

little girl is a precog and her grandpa records her dreams and with the help of the main character, they solve murder mysteries before they happen. It's got a real Bryan Fuller (Dead Like Me and Wonderfalls especially) type vibe with a lower budget

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 09:15 PM (vJdyz)

641 I wish my turbo tax worked with my operating system. And failing that, I wish I could get one of my old HDs working to the point were I could repartition it into an external boot. But they're fried to the point were I can not even get 'a volume not recognized' message. Alas ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 09:15 PM (TvO05)

642 Lou's a girl: correctamundo...

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 13, 2013 09:17 PM (7B7jB)

643 Well the Powerball jackpot rolled over Come on, Snake Eyes!!!! Baby needs a new pair of shoes.

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 09:17 PM (TvO05)

644 I admit, I never thought I would look back at 2007 as "the good old days."

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 13, 2013 09:17 PM (7B7jB)

645 Going to bed, night all. Have a great Sunday.

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 13, 2013 09:17 PM (vgd4f)

646 Good night, lou's ... Happy Sunday back at you'z ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 09:18 PM (TvO05)

647 I don't get why Californians are so happy about our Lotto joining the Powerball network. Basically it took the astronomical adverse odds that Mega Millions had, and made them at least three times worse. So now instead of a 1-in-30 billion chance to win, you have a 1-in-100 billion chance.

Sure, the prizes are somewhat bigger. But I'd be happy if I could just come into an extra five or ten grand for playing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 13, 2013 09:20 PM (7B7jB)

648 It's dead Jim.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 09:28 PM (gqEUi)

649 so....who farted?

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 09:28 PM (vJdyz)

650 #642

The web version pretty much matches the store bought edition. So Long as you can run reasonably recent browser you should be fine.

Which reminds me, I have to go roust my mother and force her to get her paperwork together. She'll talk at length about the deductions she should get but has not once in my adult life had her stuff in order until someone forced her. Her procrastination is so bad she's still getting birth marks.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 09:32 PM (kcfmt)

651 Damn, I'm glad I got my taxes taken care of a couple of months ago...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2013 09:35 PM (Vk2pI)

652 Ray Gun is Dead

Who?

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 09:35 PM (CuDT2)

653 The web version pretty much matches the store bought edition. So Long as you can run reasonably recent browser you should be fine. T'anks ... I'll give it a try or get a little USB drive for a bootable tomorrow ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 09:38 PM (TvO05)

654 Gonna hate when my dad passes away as all I do is throw $100 at him and let him work his 30 years as a tax auditor magic

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 09:38 PM (vJdyz)

655 Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 14, 2013 01:35 AM (CuDT2) Filter the comment through a leftist mind. (Ray Gun - Reagan.)

Posted by: RWC at April 13, 2013 09:43 PM (Wl/Ht)

656 TY, RWC. I was just posting to check my shit.

Posted by: Ray Sist, very old savage peasant at April 13, 2013 09:46 PM (CuDT2)

657 The Dude at April 14, 2013 01:38 AM (vJdyz) Maybe if you were polite and handed him the money, he'd do it for less ... : -))

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 09:52 PM (TvO05)

658 I found the cleverest way to stay out of prison. I married my accountant.

Non-English Major pedantry for a change: a tax return is the thing you have to send to them. A tax refund is what you'd like to get back. Lot of confusion on that, for instance in the tax time line above.

Traditional rifle instruction techniques always stressed handedness and "eyedness." The availability of LH target rifles being what it is (actually, not so bad once you know all the shooters in your state and know who's likely to die soon), I anticipated the work of some sports-psychologists and just started kids on right-hand guns, getting into the two-handed triangle ting only if they had severe problems. I haven't had any yet.

It used to be assumed that hand dominance was easier to change than eye dominance. I know of at least one multiple national champion who deliberately shoots with the wrong hand, has for 40 years, and is kind of all Zenny about it. He's right-handed and right-eyed, for normal tasks, but he's working a theory.

I think that the worsening confusion of "dominate" for "dominant" comes not from bad grammar, but from certain Californians having so much powder up their noses that you can't hear their n's anyway. A little Latin grammar -- better yet, a little Latin -- would straighten that right out, but let's face it, nobody gives a shit.

Posted by: comatus at April 13, 2013 09:52 PM (qaVK+)

659

(Ray Gun - Reagan.)

Gawd, I don't know how you guys do that.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 09:56 PM (gqEUi)

660 Heh, I'm proofreading the e-book and the story I'm currently on is Robert Silverberg's 'Our Lady of the Sauropods.' Crichton lifted big chunks of this for 'Jurassic Park' and put in a hat tip in 'The Lost World.' In the story, the narrator is talking about why they created their dinosaur habitat in orbit, after an incident with a tyrannosaur in San Diego caused a lot of problems. Sound familiar?

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 09:56 PM (kcfmt)

661 Tonight's movie was The Hunt for Red October.

Fun watch, though don't actual submarines have a bit more of a noise control policy?   (eg: No breaking out into patriotic singing)

I'm also a little sick of the super smart policy analyst who knows all the right solutions if only the leadership would just listen to him.   Overused, and smacks too much of leftism.

Posted by: Gaylord Focker at April 13, 2013 09:56 PM (rm+Am)

662 Tonight's movie was The Hunt for Red October. Fun watch, though don't actual submarines have a bit more of a noise control policy? (eg: No breaking out into patriotic singing) I'm also a little sick of the super smart policy analyst who knows all the right solutions if only the leadership would just listen to him. Overused, and smacks too much of leftism. Posted by: Gaylord Focker at April 14, 2013 01:56 AM (rm+Am) Speaking of which, tonight's Doctor Who episode was aboard a Soviet sub and brought back the Ice Warriors.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2013 09:58 PM (Vk2pI)

663 comatus at April 14, 2013 01:52 AM (qaVK+) May your marriage be happy at other than tax time ... I am right handed but left eye'd. Shooting on the left seems easier than retraining the eye, but I don't shoot often. Next gun, less recoil.

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 09:59 PM (TvO05)

664 comatus- I would like to learn latin. Any ideas that don't cost $500+? I know some as I am in the legal field.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 09:59 PM (gqEUi)

665 awesome figure or awesome figure

http://tinyurl.com/c2jtqxn

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 09:59 PM (vJdyz)

666 boo yah!

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 10:00 PM (TvO05)

667 Off, darn sock!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 10:00 PM (rm+Am)

668 or not ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 10:00 PM (TvO05)

669

Posted by: Infidel at April 14, 2013 01:59 AM (gqEUi)

Rosetta Stone isn't that expensive

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 10:01 PM (vJdyz)

670 Infidel at April 14, 2013 01:59 AM (gqEUi) Wheeler's Latin. should be amazonable ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 10:02 PM (TvO05)

671 awesome figure or awesome figure http://tinyurl.com/c2jtqxn Posted by: The Dude at April 14, 2013 01:59 AM (vJdyz) I'm still rooting for Manami, though I realize the fanbase would never allow anyone but Kuroneko...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2013 10:02 PM (Vk2pI)

672 I want a flying car! I have waited long enough! If they can have a new V-280, then I ought to be able to have a shiny new Jetson, by George!

Posted by: and irresolute at April 13, 2013 10:04 PM (DBH1h)

673 I'm still rooting for Manami, though I realize the fanbase would never allow anyone but Kuroneko...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 14, 2013 02:02 AM (Vk2pI)

Kuroneko annoys me, just something about her

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 10:07 PM (vJdyz)

674 No more surf music, or anime girls, forever! ... unless its Hatsune! http://tinyurl.com/3ajd7wp

Posted by: and irresolute at April 13, 2013 10:09 PM (DBH1h)

675 very much posting this in the gaming thread

http://tinyurl.com/cl8one9

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 10:10 PM (vJdyz)

676 Rosetta Stone - Latin = $379.00 plus s&h

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 10:10 PM (gqEUi)

677 676 very much posting this in the gaming thread
http://tinyurl.com/cl8one9

Posted by: The Dude at April 14, 2013 02:10 AM (vJdyz)

Wut.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 13, 2013 10:13 PM (rm+Am)

678 Rosetta Stone - Latin = $379.00 plus sh

Posted by: Infidel at April 14, 2013 02:10 AM (gqEUi)

if you're not in any rush, every couple of months or so they have their stuff on sale

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 10:13 PM (vJdyz)

679

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 14, 2013 02:13 AM (rm+Am)

Japanese gaming mag where they announce that the 3DS is getting a version of Puzzles and Dragons. Game is like crack on the iOS

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 10:15 PM (vJdyz)

680

Dude - I will keep checking.

Adriane - Thanks, put on my wish list.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 10:21 PM (gqEUi)

681 Fkn pixy and her amperands.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 10:22 PM (gqEUi)

682 Dude, did you catch the link above about Project Unity?

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 10:28 PM (kcfmt)

Posted by: and irresolute at April 13, 2013 10:28 PM (DBH1h)

684 Best of luck, Infidel ... I had Latin in HS with basic text book. I read about Wheeler's Latin as a text for grown ups, GI Bill age men attending college. But, no personal experience with it.

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 10:29 PM (TvO05)

685 Dude, did you catch the link above about Project Unity?

Posted by: epobirs at April 14, 2013 02:28 AM (kcfmt)

about the what 20 in 1 unit? It's interesting to say the least, especially since it's using original guts

Posted by: The Dude at April 13, 2013 10:30 PM (vJdyz)

686 Good night to ONT friends, imaginary and e-scattered, It's fun e-talking with you, And sometimes, that's all that mattered.

Posted by: Adriane ... at April 13, 2013 10:31 PM (TvO05)

687 Speaking of which, tonight's Doctor Who episode was aboard a Soviet sub and brought back the Ice Warriors. Posted by: The Political Hat at April 14, 2013 01:58 AM

Watching it now. If Jenna-Louise Coleman is going to go through this episode soaking wet, the least they could do is have her dressed in a thin t-shirt

Posted by: kbdabear at April 13, 2013 10:36 PM (mCvL4)

688 Crap. My Nook HD+ won't boot into Android anymore. Just hangs on the Cyanoboot logo. This is going to be a questionable investment if I cannot use it reliably. The stock Nook mode is kind of useless except for media consumption.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 10:46 PM (kcfmt)

689 If you're "motivated," you can just about teach yourself Latin from the traditional dead-tree texts. IIRC there were only two curricula, with somewhat differing commentary around them, and one was by Jenney and Scudder.

"Latin Via Ovid" is a good analytical text, but I've gotten into some arguments (the good kind) over whether Ovid is too much of a trickster to use as a learning guide. The later people I studied with had a well-developed sense of grace and concision, and thought the Cicero and Sallust-based texts that I liked were awfully boring.

I have a radical proposal. If you live near a university, you should be able to find a handful of people there who think Latin is important. I was able to hire an undergraduate as a tutor for my son for a ridiculously cheap fee. For a while, I drove the kid to campus, where an indulgent department allowed us the use of an empty classroom. After a while, he started coming to us, and gradually became a trusted family friend. When that guy graduated, his successor just didn't work out at all, but by that time the kid had learned as much as he would have in four years of high school Latin, and as he was changing schools to begin sixth grade, I let the project lapse at that point.

Many stories arise from that adventure. The boy became an engineer, and his ability to write well puts him in demand in many ways. Any Latin fan will argue that studying Latin, more so than other languages, teaches you to consider what each word is being used for in a sentence, and that forces you to construct your thought process carefully. Modern philologists just hate that, but they're unable to argue their point clearly because their thoughts are so confused, proving the point.

Posted by: comatus at April 13, 2013 10:46 PM (qaVK+)

690 Mortuus est, Iacobe.

Posted by: comatus at April 13, 2013 10:56 PM (qaVK+)

691

Thank you, comatus. Very insightful. There is a College just designated as a University, not sure anyone is interested in Latin in Western Colorado, but I will look into it.

Thanks again!

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 10:57 PM (gqEUi)

692 And... now it works again. Temperamental bugger.

I wonder if it got too cold sitting near open window. Shouldn't be a problem but it's a straw to grasp at.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 11:01 PM (kcfmt)

693 Posted by: comatus at April 14, 2013 02:46 AM (qaVK+)

Don't potential doctors have to take a Latin course? They used to.

In other news, in NY there is a bunch of finger pointing and blame shifting going on re the guy that had his guns confiscated because he once took an SSRI. A judge said give em back and now the lawsuits begin.

Insty has a link.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 13, 2013 11:09 PM (ccXZP)

694 Just started watching Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood and Gene Hackman. Haven't seen it for years.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 11:14 PM (gqEUi)

695 >> Just started watching Unforgiven....

One of my favorite movies.

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have."

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 13, 2013 11:25 PM (ccXZP)

696 690 "Latin Via Ovid" is a good analytical text.

----------

Been taking Latin up at the local community college. It's the text we're using.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at April 13, 2013 11:25 PM (U82Km)

697 Just started watching Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood and Gene Hackman. Haven't seen it for years.

Posted by: Infidel at April 14, 2013 03:14 AM

It's a great movie. A masterpiece. Good cast. Whatever happened to Jaimz Woolvet? Thought he pretty much stole the show, despite very tough competition.

Posted by: otho at April 13, 2013 11:33 PM (9gNQd)

698

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have."

After what they did to that girl, whore or not, he deserves whatever he's got comin.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 11:34 PM (gqEUi)

699 Go to Amazon via the AosHQ link and search for Henry Beard. He is one of the National Lampoon guys from way back in the 70s. He has two funny books on Latin in modern settings. Latin For All Occasions and X-treme Latin.

Also a book of French for cats.

Posted by: epobirs at April 13, 2013 11:37 PM (kcfmt)

700

Nite all, gonna try to sleep. Don't drink all the Value-Rite and trash the place.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2013 11:40 PM (gqEUi)

701 Heh,

I just conned x64 Windows Vista into recognizing one of my old Adaptec 2940UW SCSI controllers that Adaptec abandoned driver development for.

Forcing the driver manager to install the 78xx emulated driver worked. All the warning about that being "dangerous" are bullshit. Its working.

Dedicated swap drive! Yea baby, that's what I'm talking about.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 11:43 PM (/gHaE)

702 >> he deserves whatever he's got comin.

"Deserve got's nothin' to do with it."

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 13, 2013 11:48 PM (ccXZP)

703 blame shifting going on re the guy that had his guns confiscated because he once took an SSRI.

There's nothing in Federal firearms law about medications, only commitment to a mental institution. People don't get committed for depression.

Hell, I'm clinically depressed all the time. Any sane person would be these days.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 13, 2013 11:48 PM (/gHaE)

704 Night all. Here is "Call of Ktulu" by Metallica http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1RTgznup5c

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 14, 2013 12:15 AM (Vk2pI)

705 another short gaming thread this week :/

Posted by: The Dude at April 14, 2013 12:15 AM (vJdyz)

706 another short gaming thread this week :/ Posted by: The Dude at April 14, 2013 04:15 AM (vJdyz) Just add more cosplayers with big boobies, and no one will notice anything...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 14, 2013 12:19 AM (Vk2pI)

707 It wouldn't work. We tried this in several states and the Left didn't care and managed to play the incrementalism game. They "accepted" the compromise, and then immediately used it to push for full marriages.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 13, 2013 10:17 PM (lr3d7)

Sorry, late reply, but I had to take care of some stuff, blah blah.

I disagree on this; a few test cases doesn't mean diddly squat, esp. not in Cali. I mean it as a platform, consistent message. All I ever hear is no gay anything; like I said, I agree no on marriage but I don't believe that if the GOP consistently came out with fine on legal partnerships and was consistent, predictable and explained it then it wouldn't help. You have to try it for more than 20 minutes.

Posted by: Linlithgow at April 14, 2013 12:21 AM (Gim9y)

708 >> another short gaming thread this week :/

What I can say is NOT a complaint --- one of the great strengths of this blog is the allowance of many different interests through the co and guest bloggers. I don't care much about the gaming thread....but I defend to the death the right to post about it.

You can call it......death by boredom or indifference.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 14, 2013 12:26 AM (ccXZP)

709 The gay activists have already made it abundantly clear that they will fight eternally over the word marriage and will never settle for anything less. It isn't about equal rights. It's about demanding everyone conform to the mode of thinking they regard as acceptable. Then they'll make it grounds for legal action if you don't take their mockery of a marriage seriously, especially if it occurs in a workplace.

Posted by: epobirs at April 14, 2013 12:31 AM (kcfmt)

710 "Left-handed people avoid using exact numbers" Bu... no. I'll give it a chance. Lets see the data. How many people did they study? 200 Bulls... no, lets keep going. How did you randomly select these people for your study? "200 participants in an online survey" Yeah, it's time to call it. BULLSHIT! If you don't know why that's a bad thing; call up the President of the United States and ask if his name is Ron Paul. If a small sample online survey is meaningful; it certainly should be.

Posted by: gekkobear at April 14, 2013 12:49 AM (9Llm1)

711 and will never settle for anything less

With that shit being stirred about "infertility" and wanting special conception services, it seems clear to me that marriage is not the end game.

They want more -- a lot more. They want society to provide legal and financial relief for their reproductively challenged lifestyle's "disabilities".

If it were JUST marriage, I wouldn't give a shit. If they're looking to pick my pocket for reproductive services, that's where I draw the line.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 14, 2013 12:57 AM (/gHaE)

712

As for the "evil Jews" story, I actually think that the teacher was in the right, from what I know about the case. What she was trying to do was to make the students think about things from the 'other side', so to speak. We have such a cartoonish picture of Nazi's and Nazism these days that it is difficult, if not impossible, to realize that the vast majority of the horrible things the Nazis did were carried out by 'ordinary' Germans. Why did they go along with such obviously (to us, now) evilness? In trying to understand this phenomenon, one has to go to the government (and through the government, the schools, media, etertainment, etc.) propaganda that constantly hammered out the theme of Jewish 'otherness'. I would think that this sort of excercise would be of value to conservatives especially, in light of the dominance of the "progressive" establishment culture in the USA, and its near monopoly of the culture. Unfortunately, trying to get students to think these days is a dangerous thing.

For the guy who wanted to know of any other indivduals who have been involved with championships in multiple sports besides Joe Gibbs, I give you Otto Graham. He won 4 AAFC and 3 NFL championships as QB of the Cleveland Browns, and he played for the NBA champion Rochester Royals in 1946. A true stud if ever there was one.

Posted by: BigDaddyD at April 14, 2013 01:00 AM (S4N/h)

713 713 The problem I have is with this lesson tending to extend a certain stereotype. Jews suck, and we never learn WHY????

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 14, 2013 01:21 AM (ccXZP)

714 Posted by: <@PurpAv at April 14, 2013 04:57 AM (/gHaE)

The whole SSM thing has been about BENEFITS from the beginning. It then added REVENGE against those who resisted the propaganda and will eventually become a way to force churches to either close or become apostate to their church members.

Many "protestant" churches have already embraced the Gay Mafia Assault. Some in fear and others with glee (no not the tv show).

Because too many churches have become empty shells and have not only strayed but morphed into being places of denial of God and Christ.

The Liberals enjoy this assault as it is done without their lifting a finger yet the secular state will be the prime beneficiary.

(they've been drooling over the taxes and fees they could charge if only churches weren't exempt).

The only possible blocking force is SCOTUS and we've seen how Roberts isn't any conservative. His views will be more obvious after the latest ruling on Prop 8.

The assault on Marriage is actually an assault on Western Civ and they know exactly what they're doing.

We (christians, conservatives, patriots) are being marginalized and demonized. The next step will be to be declared "outlaw" and targeted for reeducation, or "removal".

We ARE a threat to the New World Order of the Secular State.
And all our strengths will be attacked: Church, family, self reliance, independence, self defense.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 14, 2013 01:22 AM (Kpn/z)

715 they've been drooling over the taxes and fees they could charge if only churches weren't exempt

I had a piece of vacant rural farmland property in NY that the town was giving me a hard time with taxes on. They insisted on zoning it as something that it wasn't and kept jacking the taxes to outlandish rates in a market where the property was unsalable and undevelopable commercially. You can't give land away anymore in rural NY due to the tax rates. Nobody wants it...except a tax exempt.

So I sold the land to a group of Hindus who put up a temple. I lost some money on the deal, but got a LOT of satisfaction of fucking those assholes running the town out of any future taxes.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 14, 2013 01:44 AM (/gHaE)

716 Is there a way to refresh the glow-in-the-dark (Tritium?) dots on milsurp nightsights?

The phosphor coating inside them can become depleted if kept in the daylight or under fluorescent lighting.

Keep the sights in the dark will make them be brighter a little longer.

Half life on tritium is about 12 years. At that point most lights are very dim.

their relative brightness (what your eye sees) may be brighter the less ambient light is available.

don't forget to dispose of them properly or at least carefully. They can set off some sensors and the light taken out of the sight housing break easily.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 14, 2013 01:50 AM (Kpn/z)

717 You should've used XMarks to save all your links.

Posted by: Simon at April 14, 2013 04:40 AM (zJPQG)

718 just running a quick test now that the thread is dead...