August 17, 2013
— CDR M
Man, you could cross out Egypt and put in a whole range of words and this picture would still work.
Michael Ramirez.
Biologic Immortality
Fascinating stuff. Girl who never ages could hold key to 'biologic immortality'. So if they find the gene responsible for developmental inertia, at what age would you choose to stop aging? 18? 21? 25?
h/t Thrawn
Military Epidemics That Aren't
Finally someone digs beyond the top layer when looking at suicide and sexual assault rates in the military. Military epidemics that aren't.
war demands unflinching discipline, courage and loyalty in the presence of our deepest animal passions, and in that sense it is anything but dehumanizing. By regarding soldiers, sometimes condescendingly, as victims and patients, we are in danger of foisting our own, very civilian and very modern, therapeutic pathologies on people who don't need them and whose ability to do their jobs—that is, keep us safe—is likely to be diminished.
Greatest Movie Lines Of All Time
Air Force Callsigns
It's a little different in the Navy, but essentially the same. How do fighter pilots typically earn their callsigns?
When all is said an done, the naming committee will render its verdict. Call signs generally follow a few rules as many have noted:It cannot be "too cool" like "Dagger" or "Iceman"
It cannot be "too good" for the subject in question (based solely on the judgment of your drunken friends)
It cannot be something you asked for. You don't ask for a specific call sign. Your squadron mates give it to you. Serious rookie mistake.
It must pass the bar test. You should be able to explain your call sign at the Nellis bar and not have potential dates, random civilians, or other fighter pilots run away in embarrassment for you
For first-time namees, your call sign usually revolves around something stupid (or fantastic) you did during your initial few months in the squadron, or a play off your name
If you flew with a call sign in combat, you will generally be given preference for keeping your previous call sign. So long as a) you didn't do something horrendously stupid lately, b) you bribed adequately, and c) you are not in Korea, where many rules of physics are routinely broken
If you succeed in pissing off most of your fellow pilots, you may be selected for hostile renaming. All bets are off. Your best hope is excessive groveling at the feet of the committee, followed by promises of a large/expensive bribe, and a change in behavior. Then, adopt a stoic silence and await your fate.
Prop Gun
Rehydrating Beer
Move over Gatorade, there's a new post-sport drink out there. Aussie's come up with rehydrating beer.
By adding electrolytes, an ingredient commonly found in sports drinks, and reducing the alcohol content researchers found that beer could become even more refreshing. And the best news for beer drinkers is that the taste of the modified brews didn't change.
Female Urine Device
Way back in college at a frat party, I saw a sorority chick use a standing urinal as the line for the ladies head was a bit long. I don't believe she had portable funnel device though. I could see this being useful for some places as bathrooms can be pretty nasty or in Sicily where there never seems to be any toilet seats at a lot of public restrooms.
End of Times Medical Supply
This is a very, very big list of medical stuff to have on hand for when the shit hits the fan. A good thing to think about and to start stocking up on. A Pharmacologic Strategy. This stuff is just as important as guns, ammo and food.
The Better Workout
Gym workouts and sunbathing do more for your brain than crosswords and Mozart.
Russian Water Park
Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to Russia.
Adventures in Teaching
WTF? Teacher accused of being drunk on field trip paid $18K. Seems to be a slam dunk case so I don't understand why the settlement. The article is a little light on the details but I would assume it would be easy to prove why the teacher was sent to the ER as it would be in the medical report. Seems like it would be a strong case and not one where you would settle.
Are You Smarter Than A Toddler
Oh I know you morons are but I'm sure some LIVs would get smoked by this 18 month old toddler that knows the capitals of 61 countries.
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Posted by: EC at August 17, 2013 06:08 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Flying Toaster Circus at August 17, 2013 06:08 PM (WVhTP)
Posted by: AltonJackson (and the Middle Class) at August 17, 2013 06:08 PM (JMmQ9)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:09 PM (k9TQr)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/selection-du-weekend-49-10.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:10 PM (k9TQr)
Some guy in a fast mover squadron was on the range and pickled his MERs before getting a single bomb off the rails..... Became known as Winchester in the bar at Fallon.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 17, 2013 06:10 PM (qBtUE)
Chicks who hunt or fish in the boonies know how to stand and aim by manipulating their equipment, and normally score a 7 or 8 for style. Also, drip-dry is the order of the day. Wowza!
Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 17, 2013 06:10 PM (pJF+c)
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 06:11 PM (OksBo)
Posted by: t-bird at August 17, 2013 06:11 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Thrawn at August 17, 2013 06:12 PM (Dsds2)
It's a calling, but not for the indolent.
Posted by: adams superstitious porn at August 17, 2013 06:12 PM (L039j)
One triple kill F-105G has a MiG kill due to the Gomer flying into the Thud's ejected centerline MER while the Lead Sled una**ed itself.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:13 PM (k9TQr)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 06:14 PM (aH+zP)
That Russian water park stunt doesn't look like fun.
Posted by: EC at August 17, 2013 10:08 PM (doBIb)
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Amazed no one was drowned.
Posted by: Darth Randall at August 17, 2013 06:15 PM (lxc0s)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 06:16 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 10:09 PM (k9TQr)
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Who you calling a Saarlac?
Posted by: Michelle Obama at August 17, 2013 06:16 PM (lxc0s)
Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2013 06:17 PM (obKob)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:17 PM (k9TQr)
Posted by: harleycowboy at August 17, 2013 06:18 PM (+9AX9)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 06:18 PM (CA2NO)
I've been watching that for 4 1/2 years. Wait, is this some kind of sports thing?
Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 06:18 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:18 PM (k9TQr)
Posted by: Raxter54 at August 17, 2013 06:19 PM (XhrtR)
Human nature is brutal and nasty. Civilization is a thin veneer that we struggle to maintain. The problem is that in war that veneer goes away very quickly.
Posted by: Luke Skywalker at August 17, 2013 06:19 PM (lr3d7)
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Posted by: Luke Skywalker at August 17, 2013 06:21 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Thrawn at August 17, 2013 06:21 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:22 PM (wR+pz)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/selection-du-weekend-49-12.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:22 PM (k9TQr)
31
had all my hair, a flat stomach, and was doing it on a regular basis
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 17, 2013 06:22 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Thunderb at August 17, 2013 06:22 PM (zOTsN)
As with virtually all biological processes, it's doubtful that one or even a few genes are responsible for this developmental inertia phenomenon.
Posted by: Thrawn at August 17, 2013 10:21 PM (Dsds2)
And do you really want to slow down development too much? If your kids already live at home until they're 30, just wait...
Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 17, 2013 06:23 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:23 PM (k9TQr)
Wife appreciates the Female Guy Simulation Urinary Device...
no really she said it would have been useful in Durka Durka...
my survival advice is "Jiffy Pop in the tinm" or "insert your favorite snack food here"...
also try not to headbutt a forklift for your nick...
das ist all
Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 17, 2013 06:23 PM (A4hKL)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 17, 2013 06:24 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:24 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 17, 2013 06:24 PM (BXLPR)
By the way, I'd hate immortality. All that swordplay...
Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 17, 2013 06:24 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 06:25 PM (bKA83)
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Posted by: CDR M at August 17, 2013 06:26 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Walk Like An Egyptian at August 17, 2013 06:26 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:27 PM (k9TQr)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:27 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: #ObamaMotherHasNohair at August 17, 2013 06:28 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:28 PM (k9TQr)
Don't you dare besmirch Interview with a Vampire!
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 10:23 PM (k9TQr)
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Sorry. The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long.
Posted by: Dr. Eldon Tyrell at August 17, 2013 06:28 PM (lxc0s)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 17, 2013 06:29 PM (4Mv1T)
"Listen, I'm a politician which means I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops. But it also means I keep my options open."
Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at August 17, 2013 06:29 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: harleycowboy at August 17, 2013 10:29 PM (+9AX9)
that thing where he's standing there blazing away with a .45 is awesome
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 17, 2013 06:30 PM (8sCoq)
Egyptians are even more racist than Swiss handbag saleswomen
So Oprah, do you STILL have a racist victim mind?
Posted by: harleycowboy at August 17, 2013 06:30 PM (+9AX9)
How do fighter pilots typically earn their callsigns?
Pillow fight -- with lots of high-pitched girlish giggling.
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Posted by: eman at August 17, 2013 06:32 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 17, 2013 06:32 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 06:32 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:32 PM (wR+pz)
yo RINOs
just a reminder for all you doing fantasy football picks.........
jay cutler will break almost all single season records this year
take him, start him, WIN
Posted by: navycopjoe at August 17, 2013 06:32 PM (V75zy)
Posted by: t-bird at August 17, 2013 06:33 PM (FcR7P)
"'The average Ruskie, son, don't take a dump without a plan.' Wait a minute. We don't have to figure out how to get the crew off the sub. He's already done that, he would have had to. All we gotta do is figure out what he's gonna do. So how's he gonna get the crew of the sub."
[later, shaving]
"They have to want to get off. How do you get a crew to want to get off a submarine? How do you get a crew to want to get off a nuclear sub..."
[eureka!]
Posted by: Jack Ryan at August 17, 2013 06:34 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:34 PM (wR+pz)
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Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 10:22 PM (wR+pz)
Agree wholeheartedly. I kept waiting for some good lines. I'm still waiting. But I'm an old guy. I just don't get it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 17, 2013 06:34 PM (YgTB4)
Posted by: Francis Underwood at August 17, 2013 06:34 PM (Jsiw/)
Egyptians are even more racist than Swiss handbag saleswomen
So Oprah,do you STILL have a racist victimmind?
If I ever decide I want to be unhappy for the rest of my life, I'm going to get ahold of one of those chips on my shoulder. Seems like even having hundreds of millions of dollars won't interfere with my unhappiness then.
I know someone who works with unhappy unemployed drug addicts, and every single one of them has one of those shoulder chips. So they seem to work pretty well.
Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 06:34 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 06:35 PM (OksBo)
The squat toilets are teh rage.
And now, they are coming here!!!!!
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 17, 2013 10:32 PM (BXLPR)
Proof that yuppies will buy anything.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 17, 2013 06:35 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 17, 2013 06:35 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2013 06:35 PM (REwMZ)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 06:35 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:35 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Gidget at August 17, 2013 06:36 PM (tfg7i)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 10:10 PM (k9TQr)
Given that it's anime-inspired, that's like what, 16? 15?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 17, 2013 06:37 PM (GoMJD)
"My parents were Hungarian immigrants. They took the name MacIntyre 'cause they thought it sounded more American! "
Posted by: MacIntyre at August 17, 2013 06:37 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 06:37 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 17, 2013 06:37 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 06:37 PM (OksBo)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 06:37 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 17, 2013 06:38 PM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Matt Damon at August 17, 2013 06:38 PM (Dsds2)
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Posted by: Gidget at August 17, 2013 06:39 PM (tfg7i)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 17, 2013 06:40 PM (BXLPR)
This landing is gonna get pretty interesting.
Define "interesting".
[deadpan] Oh God, oh God, we're all going to die?
Posted by: Captain Malcolm 'Mal' Reynolds at August 17, 2013 06:40 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Steven Seagal at August 17, 2013 06:40 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: CDR M at August 17, 2013 06:40 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:40 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 06:41 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:42 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 10:39 PM (k9TQr)
Sorry, was just amused at the thought of you wanting to be a giggly teenager.
I'll go back to lurking now ...
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 17, 2013 06:42 PM (GoMJD)
Yuppies will install them so as not to "offend".
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 17, 2013 10:40 PM (BXLPR)
Actually, the yuppies will install them because they're supposedly "healthier" than seat toilets.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 17, 2013 06:42 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: No There There at August 17, 2013 06:42 PM (rCS6C)
Posted by: exhelodrvr at August 17 at August 17, 2013 06:42 PM (edmTQ)
There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now.
You have no idea how true that is.
Posted by: Captain Malcolm 'Mal' Reynolds at August 17, 2013 06:42 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Weirddave at August 17, 2013 06:42 PM (aH+zP)
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Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 06:42 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 17, 2013 06:42 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:42 PM (k9TQr)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:43 PM (wR+pz)
“What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?”
“…My health... I came to Casablanca for the waters.”
“The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.”
“...I was misinformed.”
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 17, 2013 06:43 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2013 06:43 PM (REwMZ)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at August 17, 2013 06:43 PM (1wI7y)
Posted by: Steven Seagal at August 17, 2013 06:44 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:44 PM (wR+pz)
“If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.”
Posted by: Pres**ent Barack “Lying Bastard” Obama at August 17, 2013 06:44 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Francis Underwood at August 17, 2013 06:45 PM (Jsiw/)
I laughed. A stupid quote from a stupid movie that I can't help loving for its very stupidity.
Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 06:45 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:45 PM (k9TQr)
Posted by: Line Spoken in Many Steven Seagal Movies at August 17, 2013 06:45 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 06:46 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: adams superstitious porn at August 17, 2013 06:46 PM (L039j)
Posted by: weft, all kitted up for RINOv.PURE [/i] [/b] at August 17, 2013 06:46 PM (c3xwz)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:46 PM (wR+pz)
If you want to read some good stuff about being pinned down by nasties, read "Blackhawk Down."
That was a damn good book! Well researched and well sourced.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 17, 2013 06:46 PM (Lo5Rt)
Posted by: Tin Foil at August 17, 2013 06:46 PM (p5vUs)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 17, 2013 06:47 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 06:48 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 06:48 PM (CA2NO)
That list totally blows. "I'm your huckleberry"
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 06:48 PM (OksBo)
Posted by: Line Spoken in Many Steven Seagal Movies at August 17, 2013 10:45 PM (Dsds2)
That reminded me of Overdrawn at the Memory Bank
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 17, 2013 06:48 PM (YgTB4)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at August 17, 2013 06:49 PM (jkXbz)
Posted by: AltonJackson (and the Middle Class) at August 17, 2013 06:49 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 17, 2013 06:49 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 06:49 PM (OksBo)
Posted by: Thrawn at August 17, 2013 06:50 PM (Dsds2)
(from the massively underappreciated Fear Of A Black Hat)
Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 06:51 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 06:52 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 17, 2013 06:52 PM (k9TQr)
Posted by: Cicero Skip at August 17, 2013 06:53 PM (w7s2Y)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 06:53 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Judge Dredd at August 17, 2013 06:53 PM (Dsds2)
Not a single line but a good exchange:
Dr. Leo Marvin: You think he's gone? He's not gone. That's the whole point! He's never gone!
[Leo opens the door; there's Bob]
Bob Wiley: Is this some radical new therapy?
Dr. Leo Marvin: YOU SEE?
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at August 17, 2013 06:53 PM (jkXbz)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 06:54 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:54 PM (wR+pz)
I love to sink her with my pink torpedo!
Big bottom, big bottom,
Talk about bum-cakes... my girl's got 'em.
Big bottom, drive me out of my mind.
How can I leave this... behind?The larger the waistband, the deeper the quicksand.
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 06:54 PM (OksBo)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 17, 2013 06:55 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 06:56 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 06:56 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Cicero Skip at August 17, 2013 06:56 PM (w7s2Y)
Agreed. But it wasn't just deadpan, it was silly deadpan. Leslie Nielsen had a deadpan in Airplane, but it was a deadpan with gravitas. Seagal, in those early movies, said everything as though he was discussing what he had for lunch.
Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 06:57 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 06:58 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: weft, all kitted up for RINOv.PURE [/i] [/b] at August 17, 2013 06:58 PM (c3xwz)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 17, 2013 06:58 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 06:58 PM (OksBo)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 06:59 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Ian Faith at August 17, 2013 06:59 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 06:59 PM (CA2NO)
"But sir, Delta Tau Chi has a long tradition of existence to its members and to the community at large"
Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 07:00 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2013 07:00 PM (obKob)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 07:01 PM (CA2NO)
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Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 07:01 PM (OksBo)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 07:02 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 07:02 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 07:03 PM (OksBo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheNUWyROv8
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 17, 2013 07:03 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2013 07:03 PM (obKob)
Posted by: Blain at August 17, 2013 07:03 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: weft, all kitted up for RINOv.PURE [/i] [/b] at August 17, 2013 07:03 PM (c3xwz)
Posted by: Newt (not Gingrich) at August 17, 2013 07:04 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: eman at August 17, 2013 07:05 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 07:05 PM (OksBo)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at August 17, 2013 07:05 PM (MnSla)
Posted by: mpfs at August 17, 2013 07:06 PM (0KGqp)
John McClane: Of course it's not loaded, what do you think I am, stupid?
Elevator loaded with bad guys: *Ding*
Hans Gruber: You were saying?
Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 07:06 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Roger Murdoch at August 17, 2013 07:06 PM (BXLPR)
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Posted by: AltonJackson and The Middle Class 2013 Summer Tour at August 17, 2013 07:08 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2013 07:08 PM (REwMZ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 07:08 PM (CA2NO)
Wtf? That biological aging article was 90% bullshit.
Thrawn nailed.tbe greater part, the idea that one gene is responsible is unlikely. Especially when you consider mitochondrial damage as a significant problem for aging.
plus research is pointing to beta amaloid having a huge role in Alzheimer's. Heck, considering the mental problems this poor girl has, its unlikely this gene has any role in protecting neural development, if anything it harms it. Journalists are shitty science writers. Well shitty everything but especially bad science writers.
Posted by: tsrblke (Phone) at August 17, 2013 07:09 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Anakin at August 17, 2013 07:09 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 07:10 PM (OksBo)
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Morton: Not bad. Congratulations. Tell me, was it necessary that you kill all of them? I only told you to scare them.
Frank: People scare better when they're dying.
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Posted by: Obi Wan at August 17, 2013 07:14 PM (Dsds2)
[a standoff between U.S. Military Police and South Vietnamese Police]
Lime Green: I am afraid you are outgunned today.
Dix: You still don't get it, do you? We're never outgunned!
[a helicopter appears]
Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 17, 2013 07:14 PM (A4hKL)
Harmonica: And Frank?
Snaky: Frank sent us.
Harmonica: Did you bring a horse for me?
Snaky: Well... looks like we're...
snickers
Snaky: ...looks like we're shy one horse.
Harmonica: You brought two too many.
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Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 07:14 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 07:14 PM (v6hyJ)
Verna: That's not why you came, either.
Tom Reagan: Tell me why I came.
Verna: [seductively] The oldest reason there is.
Tom Reagan: There are friendlier places to drink.
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"Doesn't anybody ever fucking knock anymore??" Happy Bithday Phoebe Cates!!!
Three weeks we've been talking about the Platt Amendment. What are you people, on dope?
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 07:17 PM (OksBo)
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Posted by: Low Information Voter at August 17, 2013 07:20 PM (Dwehj)
Hey TR,
landscaped 3 yards did you? When are you free to come over to my place, I've got some ladscaping problems that need solving.
wife and I were just talking about how to handle the French drain in the side yard. (yeah horde still on that problem.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Phone) at August 17, 2013 07:21 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 07:21 PM (OksBo)
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Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 07:21 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Beagle at August 17, 2013 07:22 PM (sOtz/)
speaking of "Offlimits" and "Callsign: FreeShit!"
she was forced to attend...swear to fucking God..."FAPs" the US Army "Family Advocacy Program"....
in the immortal words of Polyester Llewoh Cotton Mather's Tonto like sidekick....
"WHAT THE HIGH FUCK???"
so she leaves FAPs goes over to the TMC and is locked down on a code silver for ten minutes while Ft Jackson has to find a coocoo for koko puffs Pvt that was allowed to wander around unescorted despite being a suspected violent mental hygiene case...
yeah folks you're gonna LOVE govt ran healthcare...
buckle up GI
Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 17, 2013 07:22 PM (A4hKL)
Mr. President, the man has been through solid matter! What would that do to his mind?
Where are we going?
Planet 10!
When?
Real soon!
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 07:23 PM (kcfmt)
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Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 07:25 PM (CA2NO)
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Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 07:26 PM (bKA83)
Winslow! Breakfast! (Opens briefcase full of pharmaceuticals.)
You can't kill me either, Winslow. I'm under contract too.
Nothing matters anyway and that's the Hell of it.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 07:26 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 07:26 PM (CA2NO)
Also, the most important thing I learned was that it is illegal to stockpile prescription drugs. When was THAT passed?
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 17, 2013 07:26 PM (GoIUi)
That one was remarkable for being a great line in a movie from a book, that wasn't in the book. It should have been. It was perfect for the character.
Posted by: Splunge at August 17, 2013 07:27 PM (bKA83)
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Posted by: Die Trying at August 17, 2013 07:28 PM (w7J/R)
the gag started with Orwell, he wrote 1984 as a loveletyter to out of control totalitarianism....
left/right doesn't matter but notice the occutards and their teachers literally in the case of Lez Warren watched the dystopias as how to manuals not warnings.
Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 17, 2013 07:28 PM (A4hKL)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 17, 2013 07:28 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: DAve at August 17, 2013 07:30 PM (OksBo)
Hit it.
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at August 17, 2013 07:31 PM (MnSla)
Posted by: no good deed at August 17, 2013 07:31 PM (WmLrU)
Conan! What is best in life?
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at August 17, 2013 07:32 PM (jkXbz)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 17, 2013 07:33 PM (CA2NO)
Yeah well she's a bulldyke then...
I warned her to always be wary of the locals....always...
I was in during GW1 and the women of that era explained that they were liable to be attacked by the locals when the scud alarms went off in a mad dash for their gas masks...
Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 17, 2013 07:33 PM (A4hKL)
the Bush era "we're here to feed you and if need be kill fuicking people to feed you" mission devolved into "progressive cowboys and indians"....
Paul Howe who is "Sanderson" in BHD released a DVD interview called "Battle of the Black Sea" that puts the wins and failures of the missions in perspective...
mission creep, idiocy, and tolerance for pattern generation all factor into the mess that happened....
Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at August 17, 2013 07:35 PM (A4hKL)
Posted by: eman at August 17, 2013 07:36 PM (AO9UG)
Giving a vote to everyone with a heartbeat for 18 years is not working out well.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 07:38 PM (kcfmt)
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Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 17, 2013 07:43 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Major John Reisman at August 17, 2013 07:43 PM (WmLrU)
The rest of that stuff is, like I say, daunting.
Posted by: navybrat at August 17, 2013 07:45 PM (6msQC)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 17, 2013 07:46 PM (C8mVl)
http://www.freshette.com/contact_us.html
The Freshette was designed by a guy in my department at Rockwell. Literally, designed by a rocket scientist ;->
He had his wife packing and shipping them in his living room of his apartment in Downey.
Interesting guy...he had a big freaking Cincinnati milacron milling machine in his bedroom and the floor was covered in plastic to catch the chips. His truck didn't have a speedometer, it had a pitot tube on the roof and an airspeed indicator.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 07:49 PM (yLe+f)
Which doesn't mean I won't continue to beat my head in trying to figure them out, but at least it gives me a nice epitaph.
Posted by: Null at August 17, 2013 07:50 PM (xjpRj)
My bicycling is getting better a little bit at a time. I came closer than ever to doing the full 4.5 mile loop today without having to get off and walk up the worst of the inclines. Hopefully, at this rate I'll be able to do the whole thing while pedaling by the end of the month.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 07:52 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Molly K. at August 17, 2013 07:55 PM (y2+iR)
Posted by: EROWMER at August 17, 2013 07:56 PM (OONaw)
Posted by: mindful webworker, sexagenarian at August 17, 2013 07:56 PM (U13jb)
Dumping some weight may make the BP issue just go away.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 07:56 PM (yLe+f)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 08:00 PM (uRqqf)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 17, 2013 08:02 PM (l3vZN)
Countess Alexandrovna: You are the greatest lover I've ever had.
Boris: Well, I practice a lot when I'm alone.
Posted by: Darth Randall at August 17, 2013 08:05 PM (lxc0s)
Posted by: NCKate at August 17, 2013 08:05 PM (kwl+3)
Posted by: TH at August 17, 2013 08:06 PM (s4eYP)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 08:07 PM (aH+zP)
Energy drinks I stay away from, along with caffeine. I keep that stuff in reserve for when I really need it. I was never a coffee drinker and it's remarkable how much of a boost you can get from a can of Mountain Dew if you haven't had any significant amount of caffeine in a few months.
There isn't any cheap test available but I suspect I'm one of those unfortunates who gets more of a BP reaction to sodium than most. Whatever the genetic formation is for that sensitivity seems to run down both sides of my family.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 08:07 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 17, 2013 08:07 PM (FlRtG)
FL couple addicted to coffee enemas. They're doing several a day.
Why is it always FL for this weird shit...
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 08:10 PM (yLe+f)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:10 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 08:14 PM (uRqqf)
Posted by: mindful webworker, pouty lipped at August 17, 2013 08:14 PM (U13jb)
I'm wired on caffeine pretty much 7x24 -- my lowish BP is with a blood caffeine level that would have most people bouncing off the walls, babbling like meth tweakers and never sleeping.
I think I've become immune to the buzzy effects, I can nod off almost instantly even after downing a Monster Zero or chugging a 2L diet Dew
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 08:15 PM (yLe+f)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 08:17 PM (yLe+f)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:17 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: traye at August 17, 2013 08:17 PM (rEtsA)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 08:17 PM (uRqqf)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 17, 2013 08:18 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:19 PM (NEIxp)
The average Russkie doesn't seem to have much of a plan when he drives. Other than avoiding getting killed by oncoming cars in the wrong lane or getting hit with 2 tons of cabbages falling off the truck in front of him.
I'm developing a theory about the Russians. In the old days, they were in daily danger of being sent to the gulags or shot. Now that their government is (nominally) better, they are bored and so create ways of putting their own lives in danger, without relying on the secret police to do it.
Posted by: Donna V. at August 17, 2013 08:19 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: KG at August 17, 2013 08:19 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 08:20 PM (uRqqf)
Then on day they decided that policy was at an end and we were cut off. Shortly thereafter, I felt really lousy all of the time. I found myself wondering if I was having a freakish renewed bout of mono, which I'd gone through a few years earlier. But it was supposed to be a one-shot thing.
After a while I realized the problem was that I was no longer drinking about a gallon of Coke daily and had largely gone cold turkey on the caffeine. I've tried to keep my consumption more limited since then.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 08:20 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 17, 2013 08:22 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 17, 2013 08:22 PM (l3vZN)
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Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:23 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 17, 2013 08:24 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 08:25 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:25 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:26 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Bette Davis at August 17, 2013 08:26 PM (C8mVl)
It isn't nearly that bad for me. But I can produce a noticeable spike in my BP if I overindulge. Fortunately, I was never much of a food salter. At some point when I was a kid we stopped keeping stuff like salt and pepper at the table, and I never really missed it. It was probably a combination of my father's medical problems and my mother life long difficulty with spicy food. It's some freak thing because everybody else in the family loves stuff she cannot ever put in her mouth. It doesn't seem to be an allergy in the normal sense. It's more like her taste buds generate sensations at eleventy! from foods that would rate a 2 or 3 for most people.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 08:27 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 17, 2013 08:27 PM (Z9EHQ)
Welcome, condom refugees!
Posted by: adams underground at August 17, 2013 08:27 PM (L039j)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 17, 2013 08:28 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Donna V. at August 17, 2013 08:28 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:28 PM (NEIxp)
When my son flew helicopters in Afghanistan they gave him the nickname "Skidmark".
Posted by: Retired Geezer at August 17, 2013 08:28 PM (7xShT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 17, 2013 08:29 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:30 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 17, 2013 08:30 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 08:30 PM (uRqqf)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:31 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Gingy at August 18, 2013 12:28 AM (aH+zP)
Hey, there, Gingy! How's the Horde behavin' tonight?
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 08:31 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 17, 2013 08:31 PM (Aif/5)
I prefer the Monster Zero Ultra (white can), but will settle for the plain Zero (blue can). I've found that stuff doesn't hit you like a 2x4, rather giving a slow steady push.
The no-sugar Rockstar's hit me like a 2x4, and if I shotgun 3 in a row cause scary heart palpitations.
The cheap Rip-It's sold at Dollar Tree aren't quite as effective as the Monsters or Rockstar, but do kick a bit more than stock diet Dew.
I've been making iced coffees this summer too.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 08:32 PM (yLe+f)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 17, 2013 08:32 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:33 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 17, 2013 08:33 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 08:33 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Jean at August 17, 2013 08:34 PM (CMlD4)
There used to be a place in Ft. Lauderdale called R-Donuts. Menu similar to dunkin donuts, but with topless servers.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 08:35 PM (yLe+f)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:35 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 17, 2013 08:35 PM (Z9EHQ)
....I'd really have to hope for either "Cthulhu" or "Bruce" -- just to keep it clear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 08:36 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 17, 2013 08:37 PM (Z9EHQ)
Do you mean medications? Or caffeine sources?
My greatest protection against addictions has been being a cheapskate. For example, I smoked pot a fair number of times in my teens but was never inclined to buy any. So it was only when somebody else was sharing. I never found any form of alcohol I really enjoyed. And stuff like cocaine was really expensive when I was at the age when I might have developed a habit.
Unfortunately, one can still manage to pile up debt from getting stuff really cheap. My typical video game purchase is at a fraction of the original MSRP but a few hundred $10 games is still a lot of money. So I do have an addiction of sorts.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 08:38 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 08:38 PM (yLe+f)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:38 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Gingy at August 18, 2013 12:33 AM (aH+zP)
Hmmmm.......
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 08:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 08:39 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:39 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 17, 2013 08:41 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: adams underground at August 17, 2013 08:41 PM (L039j)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:41 PM (NEIxp)
You think private medical records are actually private? That's so cute...
Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2013 12:38 AM (NEIxp)
Previously, you could only be datamined at your pharmacy, your doctor's office, or your insurance company -- but under Obamacare, your medical records are all becoming computerized -- and we all know the 4th amendment doesn't apply to data....
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 08:41 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Jean at August 17, 2013 08:42 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: traye at August 17, 2013 08:42 PM (rEtsA)
It doesn't say to vaporize 2,600 Americans. But it does say, several
times...that "no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or
property... "without due process."
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at August 17, 2013 08:43 PM (2vl2+)
Likely both. It's been found that caffeine and nicotine have interesting interactions that increase their effects. Which is why it's so common to people being attached to having both at the same sitting. At some level they know about the combo high. And the combo low from withdrawal can be worse than getting off one or the other separately.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 08:43 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 08:43 PM (aH+zP)
HYFI - Harris You Fucking Idiot
PATCh - Puts Ass Through Chair
Lingus - last name was Cuny (he had to change that post-tailhook of course)
Didja - last name was Baller
Este - female pilot, when they were trying to think of a name for her she said "Doesn't matter, just as long as it's not Sugar Tits."
Some of the stories were more interesting than other.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 08:44 PM (yh0zB)
The cramp went away, but it swelled one of my ankles up to like cantaloupe diameter. I was literally crawling on the floor it hurt so much to put any weight on it. Stopped the Neurontin course early, swelling vanished
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 08:44 PM (yLe+f)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at August 17, 2013 08:44 PM (1wI7y)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 08:44 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Jean at August 17, 2013 08:47 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Flying Toaster Circus at August 17, 2013 08:48 PM (WVhTP)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 08:48 PM (yLe+f)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 08:49 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Molly K. at August 17, 2013 08:49 PM (y2+iR)
Posted by: Jean at August 18, 2013 12:47 AM (CMlD4)
Really? It makes me think that anyone responsible for this should be removed from office, and any of it continued into the next regime should be run out of town on a rail.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 08:50 PM (T1005)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 08:51 PM (uRqqf)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 17, 2013 08:51 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Gingy at August 18, 2013 12:49 AM (aH+zP)
OK, I give up. I'm doing well, but I just can't think of anything as good as what you said right there. I got a pretty good laugh out of it. Well done!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 08:51 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 08:54 PM (uRqqf)
Ok, hate to hit and run the ONT-
But, CDR M-
IF the girl you saw extrapolating herself in college HAPPENED to be a student at the prestigious George Mason U,
I Hit it. Mad Skills.
Posted by: Gerry Owen at August 17, 2013 08:55 PM (4ABat)
Posted by: Molly K. at August 18, 2013 12:49 AM (y2+iR)
And a Molotov Cocktail is a loco drink.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 08:55 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 08:56 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Null at August 17, 2013 08:57 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 08:57 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 08:58 PM (uRqqf)
Posted by: Molly K. at August 17, 2013 08:58 PM (y2+iR)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 08:58 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 17, 2013 08:59 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:00 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 09:00 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Masked Midnight Man at August 17, 2013 09:02 PM (HeCg1)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 09:02 PM (uRqqf)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 17, 2013 09:02 PM (yLe+f)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 09:04 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Weirddave at August 17, 2013 09:05 PM (gKGI0)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 17, 2013 09:05 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Null at August 18, 2013 12:57 AM (xjpRj)
Hey, you -- whatsamatta, got a new shipment of blank canvases?
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 09:06 PM (T1005)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 09:07 PM (uRqqf)
Posted by: Masked Midnight Man at August 17, 2013 09:08 PM (INyZp)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:09 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Gingy at August 18, 2013 12:43 AM (aH+zP)
They lie like a rug.
You should see the junk mail I get related to *what they think* my condition is (or the population that normally has it - WTF with the hearing aid ads?).
Somebody is handing out your info like Halloween candy.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at August 18, 2013 01:00 AM (qyfb5)
Don't forget that Google is ballz-deep into the "spying on users" thing, too.....and, just for shits and giggles, has anyone ever tried to figure out exactly what Akamai does to make money? 'Cause I'm thinking maybe it's "front for US intelligence services."
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 09:09 PM (T1005)
I went out to the pub to have a beer. There's a girl here, 20 something years old. She has her hair up in a poof, hoop earrings, a half dozen bracelets on her wrist, wearing men's culottes and a salmon colored jacket of all things. I took a picture and texted my wife "I've fallen through a time rift and find myself in 1987" Her response was brilliant:
"Bring Reagan"
Posted by: Weirddave at August 18, 2013 01:05 AM (gKGI0)
..........................
I love it. I graduated high school in 87. I have spent two looooong nights at my husbands class of "73" reunion. I took a pic of the sign and sent it to my sister saying I was 4 when he was graduating! Your wife is brilliant by the way.
Posted by: Molly k. at August 17, 2013 09:09 PM (4ygzS)
Amlodipine
Benazepril
and Bystolic
That last one is a big incentive to get my BP under control because it is horribly expensive. My last round of refills cost nearly $100 and about 85% of that was the Bystolic. But it's supposedly an improvement over what it replaced.
All three of them carry a warning about causing drowsiness. Another big reason to end the need for them. It's bad enough getting to middle-age, I don't need three additional reasons to feel unpredictably sleepy.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 09:10 PM (kcfmt)
But being this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, youÂ’ve got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?"
Well, do you, punk?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 17, 2013 09:11 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:11 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at August 17, 2013 09:11 PM (1wI7y)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 09:12 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 09:12 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 09:12 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at August 18, 2013 01:11 AM (1wI7y)
I have a co-worker who says caffeine makes him stupid. I said "How can you tell?"
and he proceeded to tell me...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:14 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Purp at August 18, 2013 01:02 AM (yLe+f)
The problem is that medicine needs to be more individual, but big business and government are forcing it to be applied collectively. The licensing process for drugs is entirely, "can everyone take it and benefit without harm?" when it should be "can anyone take it with benefits outweighing the harm?"
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 09:14 PM (T1005)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:15 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:15 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 17, 2013 09:15 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Masked Midnight Man at August 17, 2013 09:16 PM (INyZp)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:18 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 09:18 PM (uRqqf)
483 Was cafe risqy then. The first time was like "ha ha, lunch at the shoe show." But the lunch was good. (Even discounting the bonus boobies)
Posted by: traye at August 18, 2013 12:42 AM (rEtsA)
sounds right
"plenty of truck parking, couple friendly!"
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 17, 2013 09:18 PM (5lVZz)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:19 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 17, 2013 09:19 PM (FlRtG)
At least Cletus gave his life in the most noble fashion possible (for a P3, I guess. I'm just going on context.)
I guess I'm just a sucker for old-timey documentaries from 1999...
Posted by: Deety at August 17, 2013 09:20 PM (UaCt0)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 17, 2013 09:20 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:23 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:23 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:25 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:26 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 09:26 PM (aH+zP)
There isn't a decent set of tools yet to operate on an individual basis. Heck, it wasn't that long ago, as history measures things, that the Human Genome Project was expected to take fifteen to twenty years. Instead, privately funded outsider zoomed ahead with better technology.
The age of personal genome assays is coming but feels infinitely far away until it arrives. I like to use the CSI absurdity level as a measure. When that show first started, the speed with which DNA results were obtained were orders of magnitude removed from reality, even if you had the most well funded police department in the world. Today, assuming your agency can afford the latest gear, the absurdity of the show's speed of obtaining results has been reduced by over half and the required budget much smaller as well.
How long until a genomic assay is a requirement for an insurance policy? Perhaps in our lifetimes.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 09:27 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 17, 2013 09:29 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:29 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:31 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 17, 2013 09:32 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:32 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 09:33 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Gingy at August 18, 2013 01:33 AM (aH+zP)
Sometimes that's enough.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:34 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Molly k. at August 17, 2013 09:35 PM (4ygzS)
Posted by: wattyler1381 at August 17, 2013 09:35 PM (F2Vrz)
Do I have to do *everything* around here?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at August 18, 2013 01:31 AM (qyfb5)
Because Gingy is hotter by asking him to bring Reagan.
Posted by: buzzion at August 17, 2013 09:36 PM (LI48c)
I don't think I ever want to live that close, but maybe a little closer would be nice in a couple of years.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:37 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:37 PM (qyfb5)
These are not easy problems, as I say I do not blame doctors for not having solved them, just for slapping bandaids on and calling it good.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at August 18, 2013 01:23 AM (qyfb5)
Heh -- that's one of my most common rants with Kratos* -- so they're all proud of themselves for discovering that mitochondria have separate DNA that's exclusively maternal, and that human biochemistry can regulate DNA expression in gut bacteria, and that gut bacteria express certain proteins to regulate human DNA expression -- and, yet, they're still claiming that 98% of the human genome is junk DNA [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junk_DNA#Junk_DNA ].
Hello??? That's like saying that 98% of the messages at yahoo.com are "junk messages" because they're of no benefit to Yahoo.
*I should point out that Kratos doesn't necessarily disagree with me -- or even deserve any ranting.....it's just that he's one of the few people with which I don't have to define every other term.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 09:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: adamsundeground at August 17, 2013 09:39 PM (L039j)
Posted by: RWC at August 17, 2013 09:40 PM (nnL6C)
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 01:38 AM (T1005)
eh...that's not really why they're junk...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:41 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 09:41 PM (aH+zP)
There isn't a decent set of tools yet to operate on an individual basis. Heck, it wasn't that long ago, as history measures things, that the Human Genome Project was expected to take fifteen to twenty years. Instead, privately funded outsider zoomed ahead with better technology.
The age of personal genome assays is coming but feels infinitely far away until it arrives. I like to use the CSI absurdity level as a measure. When that show first started, the speed with which DNA results were obtained were orders of magnitude removed from reality, even if you had the most well funded police department in the world. Today, assuming your agency can afford the latest gear, the absurdity of the show's speed of obtaining results has been reduced by over half and the required budget much smaller as well.
How long until a genomic assay is a requirement for an insurance policy? Perhaps in our lifetimes.
Posted by: epobirs at August 18, 2013 01:27 AM (kcfmt)
Personal genomic assays are a false lead -- see @511.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 09:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Molly k. at August 18, 2013 01:35 AM (4ygzS)
That's AWESOME!!!!! What's the nice way? If it's really good, you could give seminars to teach it.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 09:43 PM (T1005)
500 Wait, nobody asked if 80s girl was hot? Do I have to do *everything* around here?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at August 18, 2013 01:31 AM (qyfb5)
Because Gingy is hotter by asking him to bring Reagan.
Posted by: buzzion at August 18, 2013 01:36 AM (LI48c)
^^^This.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 09:44 PM (T1005)
I'm late to this, but my favorite call sign (biased opinion, mind you) - a young Navy pilot who went through jet school assigned to a 4 person study group. Himself and 3 exchange students from India's Navy. So, it's NavySon and 3 Indians. His callsign - Custer.
Posted by: NavyMom at August 17, 2013 09:45 PM (GiLYR)
Posted by: NavyMom at August 18, 2013 01:45 AM (GiLYR)
Nice...what does he fly?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:47 PM (yh0zB)
I don't understand 98% of Mandarin, so it's "junk language." !
That's the kind of though process that ends with Rosie O'Donnel saying "ching chong ching chong" on TV and mysteriously *not* being destroyed by the MFM like Paula Deen.
Things that make you go "hmmmmm."Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:51 PM (qyfb5)
Not a false lead. Just well short of covering all of the possible inputs. That doesn't it stop it from being a major step in individualized medicine.
Such is science. Just figuring out how much there is to know is step one and the answer keeps changing as more complexity is exposed.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 09:51 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: adamsundeground at August 17, 2013 09:52 PM (L039j)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 09:52 PM (yh0zB)
Which of course, they weren't. They were talking to BCochran, Credible Hulk. Who is one of the cool guys, which I have never been.
So, a name change was in order. Thus, a name I've used on other forums. It'll take a while to get everything in gear...but it's better than reading messages intended for another and, you know, thinking, "Hey, I'm popular!" followed by "Oh, wait, I'm not."
Posted by: Null at August 17, 2013 09:54 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: NavyMom at August 17, 2013 09:55 PM (GiLYR)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:56 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 09:57 PM (yoh1c)
Regarding strip clubs: I've run into a couple over the years that apparently started out as honest to goodness restaurants until the owners realized that they could make more money with titties than with steak. However, when they changed over they decided to keep the kitchen staff, so you still can get a decent steak.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 17, 2013 09:59 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 01:38 AM (T1005)
eh...that's not really why they're junk...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 18, 2013 01:41 AM (yh0zB)
Oh? In 1972, Susumu Ohno traipses out a model that, if run to extremes, says that the number of important genes can't be more than about 30,000 before mutations outpace benefits. Others find 20,000 encoding genes in 2% of the human genome, and 98% DNA that's noncoding....and, yet, in September 2012, ENCODE declaims that 80% of human DNA probably does something important. Watson and Crick gave us an immense gift....and we're still not getting the basic parameters of what the hell that gift means.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 10:00 PM (T1005)
Posted by: NavyMom at August 18, 2013 01:55 AM (GiLYR)
I worked on F/A-18's from 1991 to 2005. Loved Key West, Fallon notsomuch.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 10:00 PM (yh0zB)
I'll throw out a couple acronym's for science stuff and tell me if you know I'm fudging the results? EDS, EBSD, IC,AA, FTIR. All this crap can be spun easily to those that don't know how the data was collected.
Posted by: The Hickster at August 17, 2013 10:01 PM (7Bfxw)
Posted by: Null at August 17, 2013 10:03 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 02:00 AM (T1005)
...i was actually referring to the Yahoo messages...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 10:03 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Gingy at August 17, 2013 10:04 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at August 17, 2013 10:05 PM (1wI7y)
Even if they had, they would have gotten it wrong:
http://scoamf.us/DG
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 17, 2013 10:08 PM (JawqV)
Of course when you have a lot of old ordinance some of it doesn't go off, so they send EOD to take it out. This particular bomb was a 500 pounder, they usually just blow them in place. They packed the C-4 or whatever they use around it, backed off the proscribed distance and set it off...and when it went up it detonated the 2000 pounder off that was underneath it as well.
That was a big boom.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 10:09 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 17, 2013 10:09 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: adamsundeground at August 17, 2013 10:11 PM (L039j)
Without context an acronym tends to be meaningless. I once did some contract work in a place where RAM was a frequently used reference to a rather large machine. This lead to a lot of baffling conversations when I tried to explain that they needed a lot more RAM. I was speaking of little boards to go in the computers and they kept asking how they could possibly fit more RAM in the building.
Posted by: epobirs at August 17, 2013 10:12 PM (kcfmt)
Breakfast and pizza, life is good.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 17, 2013 10:14 PM (APJIX)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 10:14 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 10:15 PM (yoh1c)
He went through jet school in 2006, then assigned to the F-18F. I know 2 things about the jet. (1) The electronic controls make the pilot a part of the "voting group" in flying the plane. (2) The people who care for the planes are the salt of the earth.
When we visited for winging, NavySon introduced us to the men who packed his chutes and took care of the planes and made sure we understood how important they are. While he was in the RAG, he pulled G's over the limit and was required to stay with the jet and the men who checked it out. When he returned from his first deployment he played the DVD for us and stopped it often to point out to us the squadron personnel, their jobs, why their jobs were important, and what made their jobs hard. Because of that, we have a lot of respect for everyone who made his job possible.
Which is my way of saying thank you.
Posted by: NavyMom at August 17, 2013 10:19 PM (GiLYR)
Posted by: Null at August 17, 2013 10:19 PM (xjpRj)
Tonight my timing was aces.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 17, 2013 10:19 PM (APJIX)
Posted by: adamsundeground at August 17, 2013 10:25 PM (L039j)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 10:25 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 17, 2013 10:24 PM (BXLPR
Tell me about it!
Posted by: Russ Ortiz just 5 outs away from winning the world series at August 17, 2013 10:25 PM (lqd+c)
Not a false lead. Just well short of covering all of the possible inputs. That doesn't it stop it from being a major step in individualized medicine.
Such is science. Just figuring out how much there is to know is step one and the answer keeps changing as more complexity is exposed.
Posted by: epobirs at August 18, 2013 01:51 AM (kcfmt)
I think where I completely lost it regarding American medicine is with diabetes/the obesity epidemic/insulin resistance/glucose intolerance. The general irritation grew with family history, personal situation, and the damnable food pyramid -- which rivals "The Chemist's War" [ http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2010/02/the_chemists_war.html ] as being the most grotesque abuse of citizens by our adulterating would-be-totalitarian out-of-control government. The crack in the wall involved two things -- my cousin (who, while managing to somehow pull it off way better than this sounds, still looks a lot like me in drag) had bariatric surgery a number of years back, and is like the poster-child for it -- having experienced marvelous results. (Her husband, BTW, not so much). So, I'm keeping my eye on bariatric surgery.....and then comes word that it cures type II diabetes.
W. T. F. ???
Seriously, bing "diabetes" and "duodenum". The first article I read went into bariatric surgery, duodenal sleeves in mice, etc. and led to a startling question -- is type II diabetes a disorder of the duodenum? Really? Those organ-thingies in there, how do they work?!?
It's not just establishing a framework and drilling down to details, it's about establishing a framework with insufficient data and reinforcing it by political means to force the accomplishment of establishment goals.
I'd suspect that microbiomes are at least 10x more important to individual health than genomes.....which, itself, is going to be hard to measure because both halves play with each other. But all the grant money flowing into personal genomics ain't helpin' -- nor is the suggestion about "insurance policies requiring genomes."
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 10:31 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Null at August 18, 2013 02:19 AM (xjpRj)
What probation? Everything on the ONT is probational, that's why it ain't on the main blog during working hours.....[and getting bitched-at by the Ewok-in-chief....sure wish our friend from ID would get his ass back here....]
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 10:37 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 17, 2013 10:40 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Excalibolg at August 17, 2013 10:41 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at August 17, 2013 10:43 PM (Vk2pI)
W. T. F. ???
Remember when there was no link between bacterial infections and stomach ulcers?
Then someone noticed that some folks, at a percentage greater than random chance, had their ulcer symptoms disappear when taking antibiotics. That was mainly because the bacteria causing the ulcers had all died, but that wasn't possible because bacteria didn't cause ulcers.
One of my co-workers had a stomach ulcer earlier this year. It was fixed with antibiotics as that's the recommended treatment now.
Medical science, crawling in the dark to improve the quality of life for everyone! (And I'm damn glad they do it.)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 17, 2013 10:43 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Deety at August 17, 2013 10:43 PM (UaCt0)
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 10:45 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Þeodoric of York at August 17, 2013 10:47 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Arbalest at August 17, 2013 10:49 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at August 18, 2013 02:43 AM (Vk2pI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk4SeANH2ao
FIFY
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 10:51 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: UWP at August 17, 2013 10:52 PM (vj51i)
"Hmmm....if the punishment for theft is cutting off his hand, and the punishment for bearing false witness is cutting out his tongue....what shall the punishment for adultery be?"
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 17, 2013 10:52 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 10:57 PM (yh0zB)
W. T. F. ???
Remember when there was no link between bacterial infections and stomach ulcers?
Then someone noticed that some folks, at a percentage greater than random chance, had their ulcer symptoms disappear when taking antibiotics. That was mainly because the bacteria causing the ulcers had all died, but that wasn't possible because bacteria didn't cause ulcers.
One of my co-workers had a stomach ulcer earlier this year. It was fixed with antibiotics as that's the recommended treatment now.
Medical science, crawling in the dark to improve the quality of life for everyone! (And I'm damn glad they do it.)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 18, 2013 02:43 AM (JawqV)
That was far more sciency than the current diaperload of anti-sciency science on "obesity/diabetes/etc." -- although....we all owe a huge debt of gratitude to Australian "bare-knuckled scientist" and physician Barry [not Bruce?] Marshall who swilled a beaker of H. pylori and subsequently developed gastritis as planned. Just how badass is that? "People don't believe that the contents of this beaker produce a nastily unpleasant and potentially life-threatening disease, so I'll show 'em by chuggin' it and developing a nastily unpleasant and potentially life-threatening disease." I'd be a prouder man for buyin' him a beer -- and prouder still if my hand grazed his while passin' him the pint.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 10:59 PM (T1005)
Posted by: N.O.W. at August 17, 2013 11:00 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 17, 2013 11:01 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 11:02 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 17, 2013 11:11 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 17, 2013 11:12 PM (JawqV)
This is a major problem, treating symptoms without understanding the disease.
There are at least five syndromes that cause what is diagnosed as type II diabetes. Most of the time no one checks, they just treat the symptom. Some of the syndromes are just symptoms.
It's a mess, as I said I don't blame people for not having all the answers, just for not knowing the questions.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 18, 2013 03:02 AM (yoh1c)
....or for wedging the questions into completely different (but politically lucrative) questions that are slightly discredited, instead of adhering to the ethos of actual, real science that has brought such great progress over the last few thousand years......
Speaking of which, Dr. Marshall the ulcer-drinker accepted a part-time position at Penn State in 2007, which didn't do nearly enough to eliminate the stain of their football pandering or pseudoscientific climate wishcasting on that institution.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 11:13 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 11:19 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 17, 2013 11:23 PM (/yH2j)
Posted by: Deety at August 17, 2013 11:27 PM (UaCt0)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 11:30 PM (yoh1c)
Which, while not good, could give us another period of relative unoppression until we get stupid again.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 18, 2013 03:30 AM (yoh1c)
What do you want to bet that genes associated with "harmful conservative states of mind" don't get denied or priced-out-of healthcare coverage at abnormal rates? 'Cause on the other side of that bet is me dying when they are.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 11:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 17, 2013 11:44 PM (/yH2j)
Which, I'm not sure would neccisarily be a bad thing, by itself.
You mentioned insurance companies which is problematic enough.
It is terrifying when you think of the great-great-grand-children of Wilson and Sanger, like Lois Lerner and Kathleen Sebelius in charge of the ACA.
We knew EXACTLY who they were when some "low level operatives in Ohio" outed Joe the Plumber's personal details.
Posted by: Deety at August 18, 2013 03:27 AM (UaCt0)
An extremely perceptive and sobering observation....
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 11:45 PM (T1005)
When people say they want to kill you ... believe them.
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 03:44 AM (/yH2j)
===
what if they say they want to slap you with a flounder?
Posted by: jc at August 17, 2013 11:46 PM (PlzOe)
When people say they want to kill you ... believe them.
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 03:44 AM (/yH2j)
I do. I also believe it when people say they want to pledge the future earnings of my state to pampering former government workers.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 11:48 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 17, 2013 11:49 PM (/yH2j)
cthulhu at August 18, 2013 03:42 AM (T1005)
When people say they want to kill you ... believe them.
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 03:44 AM (/yH2j)
===
what if they say they want to slap you with a flounder?
Posted by: jc at August 18, 2013 03:46 AM (PlzOe)
Depends on the people.....and the flounder -- http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XwzG_iCPkYw/Sjpq_8IOXuI/AAAAAAAAAAY/1CSo1MLnfVE/s320/flounder2.jpg
Posted by: cthulhu at August 17, 2013 11:53 PM (T1005)
When people say they want to kill you ... believe them.
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 03:44 AM (/yH2j)
Speaking of that.... http://tinyurl.com/kuc89eb
She wanted a restraining order, didn't get one. Like a piece of paper will stop a nut job.
Posted by: PMRich at August 17, 2013 11:54 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 11:55 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 17, 2013 11:57 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 12:00 AM (/yH2j)
Speaking of that.... http://tinyurl.com/kuc89eb
She wanted a restraining order, didn't get one. Like a piece of paper will stop a nut job.
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 03:54 AM (KDUNf)
Instead of believing government lies about pieces of paper, she should have gone with self-evident truths about hardware.....and made sure that the five times he shot her weren't unreturned five times. It doesn't say which shot left her paralyzed -- but if it wasn't the first or second, she might have had some opportunity to avoid it had she been armed and trained to use.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 12:03 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 12:06 AM (/yH2j)
And, BTW -- five shots into a defenseless woman, and she's not dead? How about a homicidal maniac charging you with an axe? Seems like a helluva reason that magazine limits are total "who cares if you die, you're only a citizen" horseshit?
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 12:07 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 18, 2013 12:15 AM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Deety at August 18, 2013 12:15 AM (UaCt0)
Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008
Yes keep it close. Even the CDC's report says so after they were tasked by Obummer to show us how dangerous guns are.
http://tinyurl.com/l38xme4
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 12:17 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 12:26 AM (/yH2j)
Unfortunately ... if he hadn't been able to purchase a gun, he could have gone in with a kitchen knife, a hammer, drove the car thru the window ... etc, depressingly so ...
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 04:06 AM (/yH2j)
And my point would have been just as valid. She shouldn't have relied on the state, she should have relied on Smith and Wesson.
"Waters Mathis had done everything to try to protect herself from her estranged husband, Dennis J. Mathis. She moved from her Independence house to her motherÂ’s Florence home. She kept in close touch with her parents and brothers. She notified co-workers of her estranged husbandÂ’s threatening behavior. She sought a divorce and a protection order from court."
Notice anything conspicuously absent from that? How 'bout "she got a gun and learned how to use it"? Once that is pointed out, how ridiculous and pitiful does "....had done everything to try to protect herself from her estranged husband...." look? She hadn't even scratched the surface. In a perfect world, her husband would have shown up to yell at her before killing her, her hand would have fallen on the gun in her purse, she could have taken it off safety, and shot him multiple times center-mass when he brandished his new .38.
Y'know, looking at that......this story makes me angry, very angry. But it's not angry at Adriane or even at the poor woman who the story is about. It's angry at the total bullshit that being a hopeless victim is some sort of desired state. I don't want to get cast into a "blame the victim" or "harsh on fellow Moron" mindset -- I'm not talking about either. But whoever taught the victim that "she did all she could" was the list given was a schmuck.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 12:27 AM (T1005)
Similar situation is how I met my wife. Our first 'date' was at a shooting range.
She was attacked by former BF, went and got a gun to prevent any further occurrences or escalation. Worked quite well.
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 12:33 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 12:34 AM (/yH2j)
Eh.
Dad got out of Surgery and one of the HHC people freaked out about my 77yr. old Dad's high blood pressure one day and got his GP's practice to issue medication for it (his regular GP was on vaycay for a month).
Went in to see the GP 2 weeks later (substitute teacher?)and he was ADAMANT that my Dad not take the BP drugs on a daily basis unless he had actual SYMPTOMS based on the charts from the chick doctor who he was subbing for.
"Have it on hand, just in case", he said but I don't think you need this!
I know WHY the HHC Aid was concerned but her focus was more on monitoring the (potentially VERY SERIOUS) effects of the levels of temporary Warfarin and Vicodyn type meds immediately after major surgery than the whole picture.
As was appropriate. That was her job.
Just saying, sometimes it can be a good thing to go to the doctors' offices of your parents or sit in on their PT just so you have a better picture of their health needs. Especially when they are feeling not "themselves" sometimes.
He trusts his Doctors (at his age it is ALWAYS plural) and so do I.
But it is good to get an idea of WHAT your Parent is taking and for WHY.
Maybe your Parent really NEEDS to take 17 different prescrition pills for her 9 different conditions. OK. Good to know.
What if your Parent is really being accidentally over-prescribed, or even worse counter-medicated by an array of 4 different Docs & doesn't (or can't) keep close enough tabs on WHO prescribed WHAT and WHEN and FOR WHAT.
The last one is the kicker! FOR WHAT doesn't mean "Prevents Acid Reflux" what is it DOING?
Posted by: Deety at August 18, 2013 04:15 AM (UaCt0)
My gramps spent DECADES of his life on a path from BP meds -> insulin spikes -> cholesterol wrecks -> glaucoma spikes -> cardiac arrhythmia -> BP spikes -> joint pain -- and 'round and 'round again. At any given time he had five serious things wrong with him, with four being caused by medication from something else. I'm wary about being set on that path.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 12:36 AM (T1005)
I was agree with you that "paper that prevents person from buying a gun" is only meaningful if buying a gun was his only option. It's not.
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 04:34 AM (/yH2j)
Don't be sorry -- I saw that after I'd gone into a burning rage, and that's why the final paragraph. The whole damned story makes me furious, but I know you're on the side of the good guys and on first glance it looked like I was flaming you, which wasn't my intent at all.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 12:40 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 12:42 AM (/yH2j)
It amazes me what some people are taking as daily meds. The known side effects are horrendous - examples you have all given.
The commercials alone would scare me away from aot of these newer meds. Anytime I hear side effects on a TV ad like 'suicidal thoughts', 'some incidents of death' , makes me wonder if the people making/selling these things are even human.
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 12:43 AM (KDUNf)
When I think back, a lot of the stuff that I learned in classrooms that has stuck with me and made a positive change in my life......isn't in schools any more. And I'm thinking.....instead of Howard Zinn's Common Core Education, wouldn't it be better to have a firearms requirement for a High School Diploma?
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 12:45 AM (T1005)
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 12:45 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 18, 2013 12:49 AM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 12:50 AM (/yH2j)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 12:51 AM (/yH2j)
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 12:52 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 12:53 AM (/yH2j)
Posted by: Call Sign FUBAR at August 18, 2013 12:54 AM (yL0v8)
Shooting used to be a sport in school in some places, and really not too long ago.
http://tinyurl.com/kbfxvde
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 12:57 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 18, 2013 12:58 AM (yoh1c)
Works for me.
"We" subsidize sports teams out the yinyang via public education but not our police nor soldiers via Rifle / Shotgun / Pistol sports / teams.
Posted by: Adriane... at August 18, 2013 04:50 AM (/yH2j)
Do not get me started on sports teams. One bugfuck rant per night is surely enough.
Weren't you doing something about painting the floor? How'd that come out?
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 01:03 AM (T1005)
Are all real estate agents TFU or just mine?
Posted by: Call Sign FUBAR at August 18, 2013 04:54 AM (yL0v
Where are you, what are you doing, and what is "TFU"?
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 01:05 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 05:03 AM (T1005)
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I think that is why they started the designated ranter rule in the American League.
Posted by: jc at August 18, 2013 01:05 AM (PlzOe)
Weren't you doing something about painting the floor? How'd that come out?
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 05:03 AM (T1005)
HAHA. As a homeschooler I rant about my tax dollars going to this constantly.
"We have to pass the levy because we need a new stadium." ARRGH
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 01:08 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 01:10 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 18, 2013 01:10 AM (yoh1c)
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 05:03 AM (T1005)
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I think that is why they started the designated ranter rule in the American League.
Posted by: jc at August 18, 2013 05:05 AM (PlzOe)
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE!!!!! BASTARDS!!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 01:11 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Call Sign FUBAR at August 18, 2013 01:19 AM (yL0v8)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 18, 2013 01:20 AM (yh0zB)
When I was in school and immediately after (and hardly svelte), my BP was 95/60 -- which hardly qualifies as "blood pressure" and is more like "blood seep". I had my wisdom teeth out in the mid-'80s and that was a serious concern at the time.
A lot of the BP issue is that it isn't a static number. It's supposed to go up to support exertion and down again when you relax......so it's likely to read high as you're stressed, even if it could be lower if you weren't. As such, it becomes a proxy for how stressed you are -- which has a number of unpleasant effects that aren't based on cardiac function.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 01:22 AM (T1005)
Southeast US. Pretending to sell commercial real estate.
TFU or tango foxtrot uniform? T = totally U = useless or up depending on the context. F does not mean fabulous.
Posted by: Call Sign FUBAR at August 18, 2013 05:19 AM (yL0v
Well, you have to monitor where their interests are aligned with yours and where they aren't -- 'cause there's thousands of bucks stuffed in them crevasses.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 01:26 AM (T1005)
Where are you, what are you doing, and what is "TFU"?
Southeast US. Pretending to sell commercial real estate.
TFU or tango foxtrot uniform? T = totally U = useless or up depending on the context. F does not mean fabulous.
Posted by: Call Sign FUBAR at August 18, 2013 05:19 AM (yL0v
Well, you have to monitor where their interests are aligned with yours and where they aren't -- 'cause there's thousands of bucks stuffed in them crevasses.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 05:26 AM (T1005)
In addition, you need to slap some metrics on the process -- e.g. if you have a bunch of offers at an unacceptable price, maybe the price is unreasonable.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 01:33 AM (T1005)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 18, 2013 05:20 AM (yh0zB)
Nighty-night, GGE -- don't let the shoggoths bite.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 01:35 AM (T1005)
BP also leads back to the earlier discussion of genetics. Some people just keep better BP than others despite similar stress levels and diet.
I'm fortunate there. Rotating shifts, semi-stressful job, very stressful in-laws, way too much coffee - yet still excellent BP. All of my family is the same.
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 01:35 AM (KDUNf)
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2013 04:45 AM (T1005)
One year of self defense courses should be mandatory for all public high school students. Learn to handle a rifle and pistol, learn some basics of unarmed defense, learn situational awareness, protecting your information, and first aid.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 18, 2013 01:36 AM (lr3d7)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at August 18, 2013 01:38 AM (yL0v8)
One year of self defense courses should be mandatory for all public high school students. Learn to handle a rifle and pistol, learn some basics of unarmed defense, learn situational awareness, protecting your information, and first aid
All excellent ideas, I recall first aid being a requirement in GA may years ago. Not sure if it is now. That was probably my favorite course in 8th grade. Very useful over the years. Although I never had to worry about unarmed defense cause I'm a great big MOFO that nobody messes with, that would definitley be a good course in todays crazy world.
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 01:43 AM (KDUNf)
All excellent ideas, I recall first aid being a requirement in GA may years ago. Not sure if it is now. That was probably my favorite course in 8th grade. Very useful over the years. Although I never had to worry about unarmed defense cause I'm a great big MOFO that nobody messes with, that would definitley be a good course in todays crazy world.
A lot of people get upset at the unarmed defense idea. I'm not talking about being Bruce Lee, but most people, especially women, should know how to defend themselves when someone throws a punch, or grabs/chokes them, and get free in order to either escape or get to a weapon.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 18, 2013 01:45 AM (lr3d7)
Posted by: PMRich at August 18, 2013 01:47 AM (KDUNf)
Good morning Horde.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 02:30 AM (cHZB7)
Probably best if you head south of the border to buy most of that list. Or do it online.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 02:34 AM (cHZB7)
Lone Watie: I notice when you get to DISlikin' someone they ain't around for long neither.
Granny Hawkins: They say you're a hard put and desperate man, Josey Wales. They're goin' to heel and hide you to a barn door. You know what I say?
Josey Wales: What's that?
Granny Hawkins: I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 02:40 AM (cHZB7)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at August 18, 2013 02:48 AM (GhSTE)
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 02:52 AM (cHZB7)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at August 18, 2013 02:56 AM (pQdNP)
In fact, I think that is one of the enduring features of oaters that keeps them variably popular, including overseas. A lack of law, except that which is enforced by individual men. And it's a righteous law. Not petty nor arbitrary.
Quite unlike what we have now.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2013 02:57 AM (cHZB7)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at August 18, 2013 03:07 AM (GhSTE)
Here's a link to the Medical Study on military suicides. Apparently their linked with mental disorders, alcohol issues, and gay male sex. I don't think that the soldiers will get trained on any of those issues....
Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2013 04:30 AM (ItL/Y)
Posted by: pc at August 18, 2013 04:45 AM (zeWyX)
You do no harm to me or mine and I'll do no harm to you or yours.
We'll be neighborly, help each other in hard times and live in peace.
******
One of the great scenes in Pat Garrett and Bllly the Kid (arguably the first modern unglamorized Western) involved Pat Garrett and a family on a raft floating down the river. They shot at each other, then stared each other down out of respect. It had nothing to do with the the plot, but it told so much of a story.
Note I said unglamorized, not unromanticized. I suspect Billy was a nasty little psycopath, nothing at all like Sam Peckinpah's direction of Kris Kristofferson, who was a lot more sympathetic figure.
Aside -- I say modern unglamorized Western -- some of the really old ones (silents, early talkies) were very realistic because people didn't know anything different and many of the events were in recent memory. I still think of the scene in John Wayne's first starring role, The Big Trail (1930) that involved building a winch to get the wagons down a steep hill safely. It would never even occur to anybody today that was something to do, let alone that it would be a dramatic point of the movie. And movies where it was normal to have chicken coops in the yard.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 18, 2013 05:07 AM (QVC7W)
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