October 18, 2013
— CDR M
This week reminded of that awful movie Aliens VS Predators where the tagline for the movie was "no matter who wins, we lose". So you democrats enjoy your victory. If you want to call it that.
So what are we left with? A burgeoning debt, and no effort on the horizon to get it under control. Obama’s “victory” couldn’t be much more hollow, as his policies continue to drive us toward financial catastrophe.
What happens when cities fall apart?
Hmmmm. Interesting read. What happens when cities fall apart: The coming age of the urban guerrilla.
Crime is Warfare on Another Scale. There has been "a blurring of the distinction between crime and warfare" in urban environments, he pointed out. Armed gangs and paramilitary terrorist groups are blurring together. Look no further than cartel violence in northern Mexico and you can see that a sufficiently organized criminal is no different than a warlord.We might say that a large enough crime spree is indistinguishable from an insurgency—a revolution against order in the city.
Sense of Scale
This ended up being harder than I thought it would be. Macro or micro? Test your sense of scale with images either from space or from a microscope.
Bacon and Cooking
I could be convinced to try the Bacon Beer Milkshake. But first I'd have to get to the Texas Motor Speedway.
The milkshake includes six ounces of Blue Bell Homemade Vanilla Ice Cream, two ounces of bacon syrup, two ounces of candied bacon, and half a bottle of Rahr & Sons Ugly Pug Black Lager.Chef Pena tops it off with whipped cream topping and yes, a handful of bacon bits, making it sixteen ounces of pure decadence and meat sweats.
Now, we haven't had any cooking videos in awhile, so here's one with Halloween in mind.
Ninja Tracks
I stumbled upon this the other day and it is pretty good. There is a group called Ninja Tracks that focuses on providing music for movie trailers. It is a pretty good sound. Trailermusicnews.com describes their sound as "fusing electronic and synthetic elements with punishing industrial rock and cinematic orchestration to create an explosive, high impact soundscape designed to accentuate any campaign".
Other good tracks are Destroyer Of Worlds, 5 By 5, Blackened Sky, Fallen Angels and Everything Burns. Heck, they're all pretty damn good. Now if they only would sell their albums.
Did You Know.....
That Mountain Dew was invented as Whiskey Mix?
SMOD
OK, I have some better news after last Friday's update about SMOD not showing up for another 100 years or so. Newly discovered asteroid could hit Earth in 2032. That's about the same time the healthcare.gov website might be fully operational.
How To Tell If Your Dog Is Involved In A Sex Scandal
h/t
Dog Video
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Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 18, 2013 06:03 PM (kexlD)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 18, 2013 06:04 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 18, 2013 06:04 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: CDR M at October 18, 2013 06:05 PM (OJvfL)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 06:07 PM (celt+)
Evening again morons. Busy times at Casa del Crank, hoping to appear a little more often in the coming week than I did last week. Working tonight.
Let me just say how much fun it is having Mrs. Crank's grand-niece, born drug addicted and now a 13 year old who grew up with no discipline other than the back of a hand and no expectations of being anything more than an excuse for a SS check, now living with us and doing homeschooling. Pray for patience for us and a bountiful supply of alcohol.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 06:09 PM (sQ0LB)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/pvhv9ro
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 06:09 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 18, 2013 06:10 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Splunge at October 18, 2013 06:10 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 06:10 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Pilot141 at October 18, 2013 06:10 PM (3aj5/)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 06:10 PM (sQ0LB)
A Vietnamese co-worker told me that "Nguyen" is pronounced "WIHN". Which begs the question - who was the first Roman alphabet user who heard that and said, "WIHN, eh? Let's see, how to transcribe that... N-G-U-Y-E-N. There! WIHN."
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 06:11 PM (celt+)
Explains a lot. Can we send the Brits Obama, and call it even? Hell of a thing to do to an ally, though.
Posted by: Splunge at October 18, 2013 06:11 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 18, 2013 06:12 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: otho at October 18, 2013 06:13 PM (9gNQd)
Probably a Frenchman. AIUI, the correspondence between written and spoken French is pretty vague.
Posted by: Anachronda at October 18, 2013 06:15 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 10:10 PM (sQ0LB)
That was the drink of choice for me back in college.
"No sir officer. Mtn Dew, see?"
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 18, 2013 10:12
Oh wow. I thought I was the only reprobate that did that. I use creaming soda. Vanilla kind not the red shit. It's like a party in your mouth and everyone's passed out.
Posted by: otho at October 18, 2013 06:16 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 18, 2013 06:18 PM (ZPrif)
Am I awesome or what?
Posted by: Anachronda at October 18, 2013 06:18 PM (U82Km)
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"AVP: Requiem" was worse than those. Just mean-spirited and unrelentingly unpleasant. Slaughtering pregnant women in a nursery ward? Really?
I rather enjoyed "Predators", for the most part. Probably because I expected Adrien Brody to be a disaster as an action hero, but he wasn't bad.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 06:19 PM (celt+)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 06:19 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 18, 2013 06:20 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 18, 2013 06:20 PM (kexlD)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 10:19 PM
Word up dog, yo! Camoflaged Comfort FTW.
Posted by: otho at October 18, 2013 06:20 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 06:20 PM (1U//B)
Posted by: Paul W S Anderson at October 18, 2013 06:21 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: Anachronda at October 18, 2013 10:18 PM (U82Km)
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You are the man. Or woman. Woman, I guess, or it would be Anachrondo.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 06:21 PM (celt+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 18, 2013 06:21 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 18, 2013 06:21 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Pentangle at October 18, 2013 06:21 PM (zUjQ6)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 18, 2013 06:22 PM (l5zzX)
Posted by: ice hole at October 18, 2013 06:22 PM (gQKHE)
Posted by: Patrick at October 18, 2013 06:23 PM (b6koZ)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 10:10 PM (T1005)
The dude in the lower left corner is John Ensign, a former Republican Senator.
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 18, 2013 10:21 PM (Vk2pI)
One out of six?
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 06:23 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 18, 2013 06:24 PM (GEICT)
Creamsicle soda.
Posted by: Purp
Wrong. You left out the Val-U-Rite.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 06:25 PM (2G0WH)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 06:25 PM (ntk8X)
I rather enjoyed "Predators", for the most part. Probably because I expected Adrien Brody to be a disaster as an action hero, but he wasn't bad.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 10:19 PM
I hear that. Yeah, those AVP sequels make both AVP and Alien Resurrection look like Citizen Kane. AVP:R wasn't just awful, it was fucking awful. Predators I wanted to like. But was disappointed. The opening and when they're getting their bearings was done very very well. It goes south after that though. My main gripe is that it was more a remake of the original than something new. The "homages" came off as more rip off than tribute. some good bits in it though.
Posted by: otho at October 18, 2013 06:25 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 18, 2013 06:25 PM (eJvk4)
Posted by: Thrawn at October 18, 2013 06:26 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: eman at October 18, 2013 06:27 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 06:27 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Justamom at October 18, 2013 06:27 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Severe Conservative Riding Orca at October 18, 2013 06:28 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 18, 2013 06:28 PM (0FSuD)
someday...when things are calmer, I'll explain why I think that rot is part of what undermines the credibility of big government once and for all....
and no it is not a Red Dawn WARRRR set of posts.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 18, 2013 06:28 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 06:29 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: T. at October 18, 2013 06:29 PM (GO1L4)
"We might say that a large enough crime spree is indistinguishable from an insurgency—a revolution against order in the city."
Recently there have been stories about gangs in L.A. and Chicago both having, shall we say, monetary arrangement with the local politicians. I thought, paying off the warlords, just like in Helmand province!
Sad.
Posted by: PJ at October 18, 2013 06:30 PM (ZWaLo)
I am particularly fond of the "could have been" almost Apache of the 70s...
the AH-56 Cheyenne
http://tinyurl.com/5kxvlh
Posted by: sven10077 at October 18, 2013 06:30 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: jeffrey pelt at October 18, 2013 06:30 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Gingy at October 18, 2013 06:30 PM (jt8G9)
Posted by: Justamom at October 18, 2013 06:31 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 18, 2013 06:31 PM (4Mv1T)
Heh. Teh kittehs are good conservatives : 1) no sex scandals related to kitten-making (a little help from the vet there) or posting selfies on the innertubez; 2) no wasting of kitteh food; 3) efficiently self-cleaning; 4) no EBT rioting; 5) drug-free except for an occasional catnip binge.
Posted by: Basement Cat at October 18, 2013 06:31 PM (mPZCj)
Likely a French missionary...
My best Vietnamese friends Were a Nguyen and a Quoc Phong......
Posted by: sven10077 at October 18, 2013 06:31 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 06:32 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 18, 2013 06:32 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 06:32 PM (celt+)
A burgeoning debt, and no effort on the horizon to get it under control. Obama’s “victory” couldn’t be much more hollow, as his policies continue to drive us toward financial catastrophe.
I blame Sarah Palin, ReichWing Bloggers, and Tea Baggers. Yeeeaahhhh Obama!!!!
Posted by: LIV dancing as doom approaches at October 18, 2013 06:32 PM (15w2J)
The future...
sooner or later the President is going to flash gang signs...
not Obama probably but some future one....
"great America you've built democrats"
Posted by: sven10077 at October 18, 2013 06:33 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 06:33 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Severe Conservative Riding Orca at October 18, 2013 06:33 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: jeffrey pelt at October 18, 2013 06:33 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 18, 2013 06:34 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: eman at October 18, 2013 06:34 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 06:35 PM (RpB32)
Posted by: Thrawn at October 18, 2013 06:36 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: ice hole at October 18, 2013 10:22 PM (gQKHE)
Thanks, you're all heart (except for the part of you that's icehole)
Yeah TR, had to work. Sux. This weekend would have worked out better (for more than just me).
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 06:36 PM (1U//B)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 18, 2013 06:37 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Justamom at October 18, 2013 06:37 PM (Sptt8)
The resolution failed, but it was close; the vote was 8-6 against. And according to the meeting notes two or three of those "nay" votes were from members who basically liked the idea, but didn't like the nebulous wording. Who decides what "respectful" means in this context, for example?
So, yeah, actual Indians generally don't mind team nicknames like Indians, Chiefs, Braves, Seminoles, etc. Hell, I went to several powwows as a kid with my grandfather, and I can tell you most Amerinds prefer the term Indian over Native American.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 06:37 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: Comrade de Blasio at October 18, 2013 06:38 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 06:38 PM (qvT3s)
It's pretty bad, but you have to see Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters if you think it still deserves that superlative.
He wrote the similarly unrelenting screenplay for the useless "Total Recall" remake.
It was ok, but not terrible. Overly long chase sequences but, meh.
The guy's cinematic douchetude is given away by the fact that his IMDB bio credits him as the inventor of "the firearm martial-art Gunkata."
Was that Equilibrium or something. Yeah, pretty flaming and overrated.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 06:39 PM (2G0WH)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 18, 2013 06:39 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 06:39 PM (1U//B)
Posted by: Justamom at October 18, 2013 06:39 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 06:39 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 06:39 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Severe Conservative Riding Orca at October 18, 2013 06:40 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: The Political Facehugger at October 18, 2013 06:40 PM (Vk2pI)
When you can have no expectation of rational, ethical, or moral behavior from your fellow citizens/subjects, you've just entered the Twilight Zone™!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 18, 2013 06:41 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 18, 2013 06:41 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: AltonJackson's life has evolved into a rapid adverse selection spiral at October 18, 2013 06:41 PM (JMmQ9)
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Agreed. The exact point of nosedive was when that black guy who isn't Samuel L. Jackson shows up. I refuse to do him the honor of looking up his name, which escapes me.
(The first sign of middle age is not being able to come up with actor's names. So I just pick the name of the guy who I know it isn't but who's just like the other guy and whose name keeps blocking out the real name, and just say it's the not-THAT-guy. You know, like not-Al-Pacino in "The Graduate.")
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 06:42 PM (celt+)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 18, 2013 06:42 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 06:42 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: Justamom at October 18, 2013 10:31 PM (Sptt
Did they let you off with a warning?
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at October 18, 2013 06:43 PM (2vl2+)
Pretty much, and the government won't be able to paper over its actions the media won't cover them up.
There'll be a hell of a quandry when we get back to open brazen corruption as existed in the roaring 20s and 30s.
This shit runs in cycles...
it's like Maet posting "Democrat Mayor wants Government Haters sent to Alaska..."
How many of us said "sign me up?"
It was from '38
Posted by: sven10077 at October 18, 2013 06:43 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 18, 2013 06:43 PM (4Mv1T)
(The first sign of middle age is not being able to come up with actor's names. So I just pick the name of the guy who I know it isn't but who's just like the other guy and whose name keeps blocking out the real name, and just say it's the not-THAT-guy. You know, like not-Al-Pacino in "The Graduate.")
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 10:42 PM
Laurence Fishburne. "Mr. Clean" from Apocalypse Now. The whole thing involving his character made no fucking sense.
Posted by: otho at October 18, 2013 06:44 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Severe Conservative Riding Orca at October 18, 2013 06:44 PM (v6hyJ)
http://tinyurl.com/lxbvdg8
(actually I thought it was high-larious)
Hey look...T shirts!!!! http://tinyurl.com/n29c2z2
FUCK YOU LONG STRINGS OF UNBROKEN TEXT!!!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 06:44 PM (1U//B)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 06:45 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 18, 2013 06:45 PM (vxc4j)
Posted by: Gingy at October 18, 2013 06:45 PM (jt8G9)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 06:45 PM (fjFQQ)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2013 06:45 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 06:46 PM (ELdpj)
especially given he was still playing Malcom X I think...
Posted by: sven10077 at October 18, 2013 06:46 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 18, 2013 10:43 PM (4Mv1T)
sweeet
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 06:47 PM (1U//B)
Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 18, 2013 06:47 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Severe Conservative Riding Orca at October 18, 2013 06:47 PM (v6hyJ)
Even tho I hate glover, it was good.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 10:42 PM
Predator 2 is massively underated. Not nearly as good as the first, but, an unrelenting fun Predator movie in it's own right. The damned thing's got Bill Paxton, Gary Busey... and Adam Baldwin, Robert Davi plus Maria Conchita Alonso in it for fuck's sake. Worth it for the subway slaughter if nothing else.
Posted by: otho at October 18, 2013 06:47 PM (9gNQd)
We're dealing with English here, not anything civilized.
Posted by: Anachronda at October 18, 2013 06:47 PM (U82Km)
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Thank you. Trivia - he was credited as "Larry Fishburne" in Apocalypse.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 06:48 PM (celt+)
Posted by: Brendan at October 18, 2013 06:48 PM (2jQGY)
The novel was pretty good...
Bill Paxton's "Lone Ranger" character was more cool.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 18, 2013 06:48 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: otho at October 18, 2013 06:48 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Gingy at October 18, 2013 10:45 PM (jt8G9)
O.O
undivided attention. you haz mine... (pics, etc)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 06:48 PM (1U//B)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 06:49 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 18, 2013 06:50 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 06:50 PM (Ui4bg)
Posted by: Severe Conservative Riding Orca at October 18, 2013 06:50 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 06:50 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 18, 2013 06:51 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 06:51 PM (1U//B)
Otho, while I liked the subway scene at first, I had a hard time believing that no one could score a hit on that Predator, especially at contact distances.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 06:52 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 06:52 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: AltonJackson's life has evolved into a rapid adverse selection spiral at October 18, 2013 06:53 PM (JMmQ9)
Y5, it is way past time to get out of NYC!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 18, 2013 06:53 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 10:50 PM (Z9EHQ)
Who said it wasn't acceptable? Franks Red Hot, put that shit on everything! (but not Dave's Insanity Sauce, that shit will burn out your colon).
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 06:53 PM (1U//B)
Posted by: Gingy at October 18, 2013 06:53 PM (jt8G9)
I liked Predators 2 inspite of Glover. Maria Conchita Alonso is in it and she was yummy. She still looks pretty decent.
Posted by: puddleglum at October 18, 2013 06:54 PM (15w2J)
Posted by: AltonJackson's life has evolved into a rapid adverse selection spiral at October 18, 2013 10:41 PM (JMmQ9)
Rubber baby buggy bumpers.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 18, 2013 06:54 PM (EIzIF)
Posted by: The Political Kyriarch at October 18, 2013 06:54 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 06:55 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 06:56 PM (qvT3s)
Yup...we are definitely building the supermen of tomorrow with this set of geniuses teaching the kids.
Posted by: sven10077 at October 18, 2013 06:56 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 18, 2013 06:56 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 06:57 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 06:57 PM (JPuKX)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 06:57 PM (1U//B)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 06:57 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 18, 2013 06:58 PM (0FSuD)
Clue: social adhesion has only gone downhill since then.
OWS was the govt itself trying to cause havoc. Does anyone NOT believe that shit didn't come out of the diseased mind of Axlerod or one of those other creeps in the basement of the WH?
When the govt itself is trolling social order, what chance does anyone have?
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 18, 2013 06:58 PM (l5zzX)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 06:58 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 10:56 PM (qvT3s)
You could tell that the role was written for someone like A'nold, and not Danny "I'm too old for this shit" Glover.
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at October 18, 2013 06:58 PM (2vl2+)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 18, 2013 06:59 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Muggle Liberation Front at October 18, 2013 06:59 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 06:59 PM (a6O1A)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 06:59 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: eman at October 18, 2013 07:00 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 07:00 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 18, 2013 07:01 PM (1jQhu)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 07:01 PM (4o6c0)
Posted by: Gingy at October 18, 2013 07:01 PM (jt8G9)
Ostral, I think you might be right.
Nip Sip- to quote a line from one of the Naked Gun movies about boxing:
"All I know is never to bet on the white guy."
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 07:02 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 07:02 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: eman at October 18, 2013 07:02 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Brawndo's got Electrolytes! at October 18, 2013 07:02 PM (bb5+k)
OK,
This is my FOURTH TRY at pointing to something funny on the web.
I Hate You Pixy!
Go Here, look at the last paragraph in the story. (Breitbart News) Which one of you drunks did this?
http://tinyurl.com/pv9dtaf
Posted by: rd at October 18, 2013 07:03 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Null at October 18, 2013 07:03 PM (xjpRj)
43 effing years in royalty. Sick and effing tired of it. Term limits now, term limits forever!
Posted by: SFGoth at October 18, 2013 07:03 PM (vAomb)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 10:57 PM (qvT3s)
http://www.cafepress.com/fightinwhite/106
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 18, 2013 07:04 PM (EIzIF)
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I like to cut up leftover pork or chicken and mix it with Sweet Baby Ray's barbeque sauce, then put it on a tortilla with a generous dollop of blue cheese dressing and shredded cheese. I'll usually throw in several generous shakes of hot sauce with the BBQ sauce to spice it up.
The wife brought home Dave's Insanity and I threw in the usual generous shakes.
"Generous shakes" pretty well describes the intestinal action I enjoyed for the next several hours. I couldn't believe the pain of ingestion, until I experienced the indescribable ejection. If someone had offered me a large dildo made of ice that night, I would have gratefully sodomized myself with it and wept tears of salvation.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 07:05 PM (celt+)
What do I win ?
Their mascot could be a giant paper-mache puppethead of Dan Quayle.
Posted by: Anachronda at October 18, 2013 07:05 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: Null at October 18, 2013 07:05 PM (xjpRj)
"Play video games," it says.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 18, 2013 07:05 PM (qyfb5)
My job involves dealing with people. What I have learned is that there were quite a few illiterates 70-80 years ago.
Name spelled SMITH. Pronounced Smythe. Yet these a**holes get mad at me for calling them Smith. It's not my fault your parents were f*ckwits!
My name is Bill, yet I pronounce it Richard. How dare you not know that!
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 07:05 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: Gingy at October 18, 2013 10:53 PM (jt8G9)
now I'm getting hungry.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 07:05 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at October 18, 2013 07:05 PM (Vk2pI)
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They should change it to the Gibbs, like the Browns, and better yet since Gibbs was the only coach that won D.C. a Super Bowl. (3 to be exact)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 18, 2013 07:06 PM (vAomb)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 07:07 PM (FJCXR)
Posted by: Raymond Luxury Yacht at October 18, 2013 07:07 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 07:08 PM (qvT3s)
Noisy, crap everywhere, and dumber than a box of rocks.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 18, 2013 07:09 PM (l5zzX)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 10:52 PM
It was well shot, well staged and all round well done. I reckon that diectors these days could take notes on that scene when considering doing the typical action sequence. If you want to show fast, confusing and hard to follow, for effect, that's how you do it. Not shaky cam, xtreme close ups and machine gun editing. I hear with the "no hits" thing... but, damn. I don't care. It's the same as "where did Bill Paxton's machete come from?"... who cares? It's just there.
"want some candy?"
"Come on motherfucker... let's dance!"
Posted by: otho at October 18, 2013 07:09 PM (9gNQd)
If the voters didn't crave royalty, they'd vote these bastards out!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 18, 2013 07:09 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 07:09 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 07:10 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: Ma Bell at October 18, 2013 07:10 PM (RLdcX)
Posted by: AltonJackson's life has evolved into a rapid adverse selection spiral at October 18, 2013 07:11 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Brawndo's got Electrolytes! at October 18, 2013 07:11 PM (bb5+k)
If the voters didn't crave royalty, they'd vote these bastards out!
Posted by: Hrothgar
Bring back literacy tests!
Posted by: SFGoth at October 18, 2013 07:12 PM (vAomb)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 07:13 PM (jeSn0)
Posted by: Severe Conservative Riding Orca at October 18, 2013 10:50 PM
I'm probably wrong, butI seem to recall that they pitched the role to Mel Gibson, who turned them down. Mel Gibson would have been interesting.
Posted by: otho at October 18, 2013 07:14 PM (9gNQd)
I'm a fan of requiring voters to own taxable property in their district!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 18, 2013 07:14 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 07:14 PM (qvT3s)
Worse, he ripped it off of Hong Kong directors like John Woo. Chow Yun Fat was making that stuff look good before Wimmer was out of high school.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 18, 2013 07:14 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: puddleglum at October 18, 2013 07:15 PM (15w2J)
Q1: Point out Wyoming on a map.
Q2: Name the current vice president
Those two questions would pretty much do it.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 18, 2013 07:15 PM (l5zzX)
The art teacher at my highschool was Mr Nguyen. He married one of the English teachers and they printed up t-shirts that said "It's a Nguyen- Nguyen situation".
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 11:00 PM (ELdpj)
The way I always understood it, there is actually the faintest hint of an "Ng" at the beginning. Very similar to the utterances you might involuntarily make when your worried about your clenched sphincters outside a restroom when you're about to explode and some dipshit is taking their sweet-ass time washing their hands: "Hnnng, hhhnnng." And then the door opens and you dash inside saying "Wihn!" -- except without the "Hnnng, hhhnnng" part.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 07:16 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 07:17 PM (Uw0hB)
Posted by: puddleglum at October 18, 2013 07:17 PM (15w2J)
Posted by: Severe Conservative Riding Orca at October 18, 2013 07:18 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 07:19 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 07:20 PM (a6O1A)
Posted by: puddleglum at October 18, 2013 07:20 PM (15w2J)
Just read about the Florida bullying case...30 year old mother of the 14 year old sociopath had SEVEN freakin' kids, I'm sure each one as malign and degenerate as the one before.
And her vote counts as much as yours.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 18, 2013 07:21 PM (hcHS/)
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*Golf clap*
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 07:22 PM (celt+)
Q2: Name the current vice president
Dick Cheney's cock. Where's my ballot?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 18, 2013 07:22 PM (hcHS/)
The first time I read that I thought it said "indescribable erection."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 18, 2013 07:22 PM (EIzIF)
Can't argue with that. But consider, one time, trying the same sandwich with the Rooster instead (a brand of Sriracha, or rather THE brand of Sriracha). That stuff has almost replaced ketchup in my house. At this point, I'd rather have it on a burger than Kerry sauce.
Posted by: Splunge at October 18, 2013 07:23 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 18, 2013 11:03 PM (vAomb)
seconded!
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 07:23 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 07:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: puddleglum at October 18, 2013 07:26 PM (15w2J)
Posted by: puddleglum at October 18, 2013 07:26 PM (15w2J)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 07:27 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 07:27 PM (/sLBD)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 07:28 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 07:29 PM (8s93m)
Posted by: heard of hearing, old jewish man at October 18, 2013 07:29 PM (eJvk4)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 11:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
At a local restaurant (The Cats -- used to be a stage stop, once a bordello -- http://thecatsrestaurantandtavern.com/history/ ), I was introduced to salsa on a baked potato. It's really good!
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 07:30 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 07:31 PM (8s93m)
Yeah, too watery. The bread would get soggy. Maybe in a middle layer, though. Imagine it -- turkey sandwich, or turkey sandwich with just a little salsa hiding in the layers of turkey.
Posted by: Splunge at October 18, 2013 07:31 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 07:32 PM (ELdpj)
Q1: Point out Wyoming on a map.
Q2: Name the current vice president
Those two questions would pretty much do it.
Biden wouldn't pass it. Even the second question might stump him.
Posted by: Splunge at October 18, 2013 07:33 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Gingy at October 18, 2013 07:33 PM (jt8G9)
The Redskins should change their name to the Socialists.
Seen at Sultan Knish: " The Washington Welfares ".
My favorite thus far.
Posted by: Hvy Mtl Hntr at October 18, 2013 07:33 PM (LtzPB)
Don't forget the boars who impregnate them. (Because, after all, I am not a sexist! I am a reactionary.)
But what is your plan from getting from here to there? And don't tell me "you should have voted for Romney and that cutie Ryan"; like certain people, Who Should Get Bent, every now and then tell me.
I don't know that I have a plan, personally. I just know that voting for Romney and Ryan isn't that plan.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 18, 2013 07:33 PM (d7tB2)
OT: I work with a woman that would give Salma Hayek a run for her money.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 07:34 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 07:35 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: heard of hearing, old jewish man at October 18, 2013 07:35 PM (eJvk4)
Posted by: heard of hearing, old jewish man at October 18, 2013 07:35 PM (eJvk4)
And the GOP did not put a fight about that.
They have been pussies for a long time.
Drinks.....
Posted by: Kreplach at October 18, 2013 07:35 PM (dwtaK)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 11:28 PM (Z9EHQ)
full moon, lunar eclipse...no telling the effect of that on the horde.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 07:36 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Gingy at October 18, 2013 07:36 PM (jt8G9)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 07:36 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 18, 2013 07:37 PM (eJvk4)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 07:37 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 07:37 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 07:39 PM (Z9EHQ)
The Dude, dick is too good for them.
Eat SHIT Dogers fans!
Muwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 07:41 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 07:41 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: Harry Throckmorton (Muldoon) at October 18, 2013 07:41 PM (N/Sup)
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You know what is? Letting Democrats choose Supreme Court justices. Well done.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at October 18, 2013 07:42 PM (celt+)
And the GOP did not put a fight about that.
They have been pussies for a long time.
Drinks.....
Posted by: Kreplach at October 18, 2013 11:35 PM (dwtaK)
Could use one. Cheers.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 07:43 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: The Dude at October 18, 2013 07:45 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 07:47 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Null at October 18, 2013 07:47 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at October 18, 2013 07:48 PM (hsTmJ)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 18, 2013 07:48 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: ChrisP at October 18, 2013 07:48 PM (BpTC0)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 07:49 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 07:49 PM (KoFMU)
On the "Y2K" thing, thousands of us worked for months to fix the code. It was not a "false alert".
We fixed the code.
Shut the fuck up about "Y2K".
It was real, but we beat it. Ok?
Posted by: ChrisP at October 18, 2013 07:49 PM (BpTC0)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 07:50 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at October 18, 2013 11:48 PM (hsTmJ)
................................
Being politically correct I would prefer you call me a "fapstress"
Thanks
Molly
Posted by: Molly k. at October 18, 2013 07:50 PM (TuxkV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 07:50 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: The Dude at October 18, 2013 07:51 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 18, 2013 07:52 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: The Piltdown Man at October 18, 2013 07:54 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 11:55 PM (KoFMU)
I'm just getting started.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 18, 2013 07:55 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 07:55 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: angel with a sword at October 18, 2013 07:55 PM (hpgw1)
Can anyone think of a person that quote applies to? Hmm..
Posted by: Null at October 18, 2013 07:56 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at October 18, 2013 07:57 PM (hsTmJ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 07:57 PM (aDwsi)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ler639k
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 07:58 PM (7KZod)
Probably President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho who ought to be along any year now.
Posted by: Brawndo's got Electrolytes! at October 18, 2013 11:02 PM (bb5+k)
President Camacho may be an illiterate idiot, but there's no doubt whatsoever that he LOVES THIS COUNTRY. A far cry from the jug-eared cocksucker propping his feet up on the Resolute Desk nowadays.
'sup jackwagons
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 18, 2013 07:59 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: angel with a sword at October 18, 2013 11:55 PM (hpgw1)
really hungry now. been a while since I've made some fried green tomatoes.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 07:59 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Bill R. at October 18, 2013 07:59 PM (Xs4a/)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 07:59 PM (KoFMU)
Jones in CO voiced an assassination fantasy, and ace was not having it.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 07:59 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Null at October 18, 2013 08:00 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 08:00 PM (2G0WH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 18, 2013 08:01 PM (Ms32D)
Posted by: CAC at October 18, 2013 08:01 PM (EI07x)
The guy who was talking about putting an ice dildo up his ass when he ate too much hot sauce?
Threadwinner so far.
Posted by: keena at October 18, 2013 08:01 PM (RiTnx)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 11:59 PM (sQ0LB)
damn. banned or asked to leave.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 08:02 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 08:02 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 08:02 PM (KoFMU)
have a beer.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 19, 2013 12:01 AM (ga+7c)
Way ahead of you, brother.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 18, 2013 08:03 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 08:03 PM (2G0WH)
President Camacho may be an illiterate idiot, but there's no doubt whatsoever that he LOVES THIS COUNTRY. A far cry from the jug-eared cocksucker propping his feet up on the Resolute Desk nowadays.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 18, 2013 11:59 PM
Fuck yeah!!!
Posted by: president comacho at October 18, 2013 08:03 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: CAC at October 18, 2013 08:04 PM (EI07x)
Posted by: CAC at October 19, 2013 12:01 AM (EI07x)
hummmm....not sure where to go with this.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 08:04 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 08:05 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: grognard at October 18, 2013 08:06 PM (cePbF)
Posted by: CAC at October 18, 2013 08:06 PM (EI07x)
Posted by: Synova at October 18, 2013 08:06 PM (7/PU+)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 08:06 PM (sQ0LB)
CAC got an early start! Was meaning to ask before, but have you ever been to SC?
Way ahead of you, brother.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 19, 2013 12:03 AM (MBqvE)
a real moron!
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 08:07 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 08:07 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: CAC at October 19, 2013 12:06 AM (EI07x)
And the libs would be douchebags in all of them.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 18, 2013 08:07 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 08:09 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 08:10 PM (2G0WH)
The funk! Bring it!
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 11:59 PM (KoFMU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVggAcksbW8&list=RD02jIOQK3ljf-c -- old skul!
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 08:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 18, 2013 08:11 PM (oFCZn)
It was real, but we beat it. Ok?
Posted by: ChrisP at October 18, 2013 11:49 PM (BpTC0)
The point is not that we beat it. The point is that the full on hysteria over it was completely unnecessary. The code monkeys had been talking about it for years but it wasn't until it was right in our faces that anything was done about it.
I don't know how bad it would have been, but what I do know is a little planning by those in charge (dream world, yeah I know) would have made it a lot easier.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 08:12 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Quinn Mallory at October 18, 2013 08:12 PM (ZyqBH)
Posted by: The Dude at October 18, 2013 08:12 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Synova at October 18, 2013 08:13 PM (7/PU+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 08:13 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 19, 2013 12:06 AM (sQ0LB)
Hate to see that, as always....but reasonably complacent if it's temporary. Did he flame on for extra time in the penalty box, or should this be relatively brief?
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 08:14 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Fabulous Reverse Brothers will now eat an egg FORWARDS!! at October 18, 2013 08:14 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: Eton Cox at October 18, 2013 08:14 PM (QCc6B)
Posted by: Eton Cox at October 18, 2013 08:16 PM (QCc6B)
I didn't see further provocation, but the banning occurred while I was refreshing and catching up. He's been banned before, so he'll probably be back--he was the one who famously said "Let the Wookiee win" after ace declared Moochelle-Chewbacca comparisons off-limits.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 08:16 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: The Piltdown Man at October 18, 2013 08:16 PM (CMlD4)
John Cheese is another writer there who strikes me as somewhat conservative (or at least a very wise and level-headed moderate), and he's the "John" in Wong's John Dies At The End. You can see his signature in the movie, on the FedEx label when the camera zooms in on it.
Christina H. (although I guess she'll be Christina W. when she returns from her maternity leave) gives me a similar vibe.
And Seanbaby strikes me as a South Park Republican. I read an article on his personal site years ago about his homemade fireworks on the Fourth of July, and I thought, "Now, here's a guy who loves America".
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 08:16 PM (7KZod)
Where in Iowa? My parents, sisters and brother are all still in the southwest corner.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 08:16 PM (yh0zB)
I'm just getting started.
The funk! Bring it!
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 11:59 PM (KoFMU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVggAcksbW8list=RD02jIOQK3ljf-c -- old skul!
Posted by: cthulhu at October 19, 2013 12:11 AM
Get down! Dig that flavour!
Posted by: otho at October 18, 2013 08:17 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 18, 2013 08:17 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: CAC at October 18, 2013 08:19 PM (EI07x)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 19, 2013 12:16 AM (sQ0LB)
Heh.
Earnest wishes for his prompt return.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 08:19 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 19, 2013 12:17 AM (BXLPR)
but they love fucking you...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 08:19 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2013 08:19 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: The Piltdown Man at October 19, 2013 12:16 AM (CMlD4)
It ain't a random number -- it was set in the statute....and the only change to the statute on the table is full repeal. Instead, they have to screw around with selective enforcement and other unconstitutional maneuvers to try to keep this crapfest propped up.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 08:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 08:21 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: Thing at October 18, 2013 08:21 PM (Vk2pI)
*cringes*
Ace's house, Ace's rules. Don't like it, there are other places on the web.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 08:21 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Eton Cox at October 18, 2013 08:21 PM (QCc6B)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 08:22 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: CAC at October 18, 2013 08:22 PM (EI07x)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 08:22 PM (2G0WH)
Posted by: ET at October 18, 2013 08:22 PM (YpjaN)
Posted by: zip zip at October 18, 2013 08:23 PM (sb9Hq)
Posted by: The Political (Red) Dwarf at October 18, 2013 08:23 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 08:23 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 08:24 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 19, 2013 12:23 AM (ntk8X)
Hey, who hawked a lugie on the stiff?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 08:25 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2013 08:25 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 08:26 PM (2G0WH)
Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2013 08:27 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 08:27 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 08:27 PM (7KZod)
Lauren and ctulhu, I believe it was a Portuguese Jesuit who romanized Vietnamese, during the French colonial era. Actually I think it's the only tone language that has a romanized alphabet (the weird Chinese version without diacritical marks to indicate tones was everywhere when I was in China in 1989, but I think it was a flop).
Actually sort of makes it nice - you can read basic signs, street signs, etc. without actually speaking the language very much. I actually took a run at Vietnamese when I had a g/f there and spent quite a bit of time there, but I was "languaged out" after getting heavily into a few other foreign languages earlier in life. And tone languages, even with the easier romanized alphabet vs. characters ..... are ridiculous for an adult.
Believe Nguyen is the most common Vietanmese surname, and the name of the dynasty that drove China out back in the ????th century. Very modest love of China is a hallmark of Vietnamese nationalism. In that regard, the romanized language writing system is considered a national treasure and an admirable act by the colonial occupiers, as it frees Vietnamese from the need to use the characters of the very modestly loved Chinese ....
Posted by: non-purist at October 18, 2013 08:28 PM (afQnV)
Mooch is not visibly hairy, not very cultured, and probably can't drive a standard shift car, let alone fly a space ship. She speaks English, but fails to make much sense when so doing. Might be fairly bright, but the chip on her shoulder is so big, it crowds out her brain.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 18, 2013 08:30 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 08:31 PM (KoFMU)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 08:32 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2013 12:30 AM (8Fl6F)
and not only that...http://tinyurl.com/44ce4ef
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 08:32 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Eton Cox at October 19, 2013 12:14 AM (QCc6B)
think people were saying that at the time. here we have a solution to the old great national crisis that is "health insurance" and some 60 thousand have bother to get through the website. should it have been multiples of that if it were really a crisis.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 08:32 PM (ga+7c)
Alberta, let us not forget her college paper where all whites/America were hideously racist.
Obama himslef said she picked our rev Wright's church.
She and obama are racist.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 08:33 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 08:33 PM (yh0zB)
Tillikum, yeah don't even think CAC's brownies could let me really ponder that concept.
Adriane, the deserts would be awesome. Service not so much.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 08:33 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 18, 2013 08:34 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 19, 2013 12:34 AM (BXLPR)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 08:35 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2013 12:27 AM (CMlD4)
What are things to have in a collapse? Especially Philippine nurses.
Posted by: cm9000 at October 18, 2013 08:36 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 08:36 PM (2G0WH)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 19, 2013 12:33 AM (qvT3s)
I wouldn't doubt that for one minute. Honestly, if you are going liken Mooch to a fictional alien, seems to me Klingon is a better fit. Hostile, you know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 18, 2013 08:37 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Hogarth de la Poubelle, Member, The League of Ugly Shirted Gentlemen at October 18, 2013 08:38 PM (FlRtG)
Ya know, I see these articles that the "right wing" needs to make nice woth the RINOs and I wonder if these people weren't hatched yesterday.
The RINOs have been viciously attacking the "right" for some time now and and to say we nneed to meake nice has mr responding ESAD.
The "establishment" or Rockefeller Republicans which mr. Goldberg ignorantly insists doesn't exist anymore, or to blame. We have simply decided to start defending ourselves rather than bend over and grab our ankles.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 08:38 PM (qvT3s)
Posted by: CarolT at October 18, 2013 08:38 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 08:39 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2013 12:25 AM (CMlD4)
Oh, they still genuflect in the general direction of the law before they smear dung on it.....because if they tried half this shit without being "under color of authority", they wouldn't last 10 minutes. So they've got Holder declaring that Up is Down, Left is Right, Black is White, and Progressive means the 1920's to give them cover. In between the times they use "emanations and penumbras" to carry laws into new areas, they use waivers, interpretations and executive orders to thwart their equal application in areas where they should apply.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 08:39 PM (T1005)
Posted by: fluff at October 18, 2013 08:39 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 18, 2013 08:39 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: The Dude at October 18, 2013 08:40 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 18, 2013 08:40 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Ashley Dupree at October 18, 2013 08:40 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: CarolT at October 18, 2013 08:43 PM (z4WKX)
Later roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 18, 2013 08:44 PM (yh0zB)
speaking of stalkers
Ted Cruz is getting death threats on twitter and they are publishing his home address in Texas. He has two little girls at home
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 08:44 PM (zOTsN)
Come to think of it, Charles Krauthammer is pretty fucking stupid most of the time now.
Posted by: Kreplach at October 18, 2013 08:45 PM (dwtaK)
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 08:46 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 19, 2013 12:45 AM (ga+7c)
Black Friday ads are always printed about month in advance.
Posted by: The Dude at October 18, 2013 08:47 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2013 12:36 AM (2G0WH)
yeah. have a searching criticism of ace's article below. maybe I can have what some of CAC mixed up and figure it out.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 08:47 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 08:47 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at October 18, 2013 08:49 PM (Tjkt6)
Ya know, I see these articles that the "right wing" needs to make nice woth the RINOs and I wonder if these people weren't hatched yesterday.
The RINOs have been viciously attacking the "right" for some time now and and to say we nneed to meake nice has mr responding ESAD.
The "establishment" or Rockefeller Republicans which mr. Goldberg ignorantly insists doesn't exist anymore, or to blame. We have simply decided to start defending ourselves rather than bend over and grab our ankles.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 19, 2013 12:38 AM (qvT3s)
===
is there any reason to play a rigged game by the rules established by the people that rigged the game?
is it reasonable to look for another choice?
do you have to be absolutely correct in the new choice you make if you know the old choice has no chance of success?
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 08:49 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Lauren at October 18, 2013 08:50 PM (ELdpj)
Posted by: Mindy at October 18, 2013 08:51 PM (sghG8)
Gilmore’s anger towards Cruz apparently stems from his role in instigating the recent government shutdown; he wrote that Cruz “needs to be taken out the F*cker [sic] and Heritage Action Grp, Freedom Way and all Tea party b*stards they caused this.”
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 08:51 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 08:52 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: rickl at October 18, 2013 08:53 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Weirddave at October 18, 2013 08:55 PM (jt8G9)
Posted by: The Political Hyper-Hat at October 18, 2013 08:56 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Anachronda at October 18, 2013 08:56 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: thunderb at October 19, 2013 12:46 AM (zOTsN)
My Magic 8 Ball says...No.
Posted by: cm9000 at October 18, 2013 08:56 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Mindy at October 19, 2013 12:51 AM (sghG
probably not. this is the Hatch Act Guidelines for "political activity" of lower ranking personnel:
May express opinions about candidates and issues. If the expression is political activity, however – i.e., activity directed at the success or failure of a political party, candidate for partisan political office, or partisan political group – then the expression is not permitted while the employee is on duty, in any federal room or building, while wearing a uniform or official insignia, or using any federally owned or leased vehicle.
lots of room there. the address might be a spoof. or ask the jackass it came from if he (she) is enrolled.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 08:57 PM (ga+7c)
I hail from the state of New Jersey born and raised and no matter where I go in life I will always be Jersey,nothing will ever change that because my state is tough and we do not take crape from anyone and I am one of them who does not.
I served in the United States Army & Navy,I have traveled all over the world and I am thankful I could do that and serve my country as well.
I have three grown son my oldest still in the Navy in his 20th year of service,also my middle son served in the United States Marine Corps from 98-04 as well as my late father who served in the Army,during the Korean War.I have many family members as well as sister in law who have served in the military as well.I also have seven grand children who I love very much.
I speak my mind and I do not back down from anyone you will definitely know where you stand with me as well as where I am coming from,and if that troubles people well guess what I am not going to loose any sleep over it because life is just too short to be playing the games people especially adults like to play I have young grand children I can do that with.
I do not mess around when it comes to my grand children with the perverts out here today keep your hands off my grand children else you will pay dearly and I mean that!!
So this is some of who I am.
from his face book
spent 2 year 6 moths in the Army as a cook at Ft Dix. Sounds like he was discharged early for some reason. Then worked in the NJ dept of corrections as a cook until 1998. No jobs listed after that
lives in Florida now
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 08:57 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: fluffy at October 18, 2013 08:58 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at October 18, 2013 08:59 PM (6wfEC)
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN LET'S GO TO TED CRUZ,HOME AND KICK HIS STINKING ASS FOR CAUSING THIS MESS.YOU CAN BET HE HAS HIS PAYCHECK AND HEALTH BENEFITS FROM THE SENATE AND CANADA
from his twitter
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 08:59 PM (zOTsN)
Lauren and ctulhu, I believe it was a Portuguese Jesuit who romanized Vietnamese, during the French colonial era. Actually I think it's the only tone language that has a romanized alphabet (the weird Chinese version without diacritical marks to indicate tones was everywhere when I was in China in 1989, but I think it was a flop).
Actually sort of makes it nice - you can read basic signs, street signs, etc. without actually speaking the language very much. I actually took a run at Vietnamese when I had a g/f there and spent quite a bit of time there, but I was "languaged out" after getting heavily into a few other foreign languages earlier in life. And tone languages, even with the easier romanized alphabet vs. characters ..... are ridiculous for an adult.
Believe Nguyen is the most common Vietanmese surname, and the name of the dynasty that drove China out back in the ????th century. Very modest love of China is a hallmark of Vietnamese nationalism. In that regard, the romanized language writing system is considered a national treasure and an admirable act by the colonial occupiers, as it frees Vietnamese from the need to use the characters of the very modestly loved Chinese ....
Posted by: non-purist at October 19, 2013 12:28 AM (afQnV)
Nguyen is the most common surname in Vietnam (38.4%), followed by Tran (11%), Le (9.5%), and Pham (7%). This recapitulates the history of Vietnam, where the Nguyen Dynasty (1802-1945) culled the Tran Dynasty (1225-1400), which in turn slaughtered the Ly/Le/Ly/Le Dynasties (544-602, 960-1009, 1009-1225, 1428-178
who, in turn, had thinned-out the Phams. The fact that there are more Nguyens now is because the Nguyens were the last ones in chairs when the dynastic music stopped.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 09:01 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 09:01 PM (ntk8X)
one more from Mr Gilmore
You read that there are more democrats that Republicans or Tea Party Dicks running for re-election in 2014!! So what lets show these assholes we are tired of the Tea Party Cunts and Republicans Pricks and give the House to the Democrats.They did not cause this damn shutdown and we all know it.
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 09:02 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 09:03 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: jc at October 19, 2013 12:49 AM (PlzOe)
Thats what I keep wondering about the Republican Party. Could it be, their in on the game?
Posted by: cm9000 at October 18, 2013 09:03 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Mindy at October 18, 2013 09:04 PM (sghG8)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 18, 2013 09:04 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 09:04 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: CarolT at October 18, 2013 09:06 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 09:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 09:08 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 09:08 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: rickl at October 18, 2013 09:10 PM (sdi6R)
Nurse called ER & they were waiting for test results.
I called ER to tell them I will raise he'll if they leave him in the hall. He is in a room & has another infection, most likely pneumonia.
please pray for God to take Paul home, he's suffered enough since March 30. I pray for God to take him.
Posted by: CarolT at October 19, 2013 01:06 AM (z4WKX)
I'm so sorry, Carol. I wish Slappy were around to use the proper words, but it rips me up just hearing about it secondhand -- living it is another thing entirely. Hugs and prayers.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 09:12 PM (T1005)
My prediction (made weeks ago) will become true: Red Birds vs. Red Sox in the WS. (Tigers will not beat the Sox at Fenway.)
And I root for the Cards. I'm not fond of them, but the Red Sox are even more loathsome.
Posted by: Donna V. at October 18, 2013 09:14 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: Mindy visiting Midland, TX -- where's the scenery? at October 18, 2013 09:14 PM (sghG8)
Posted by: jc at October 19, 2013 12:49 AM (PlzOe)
Thats what I keep wondering about the Republican Party. Could it be, their in on the game?
Posted by: cm9000 at October 19, 2013 01:03 AM (3qZbZ)
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seems that way to me. I'll never forget listening to the first McCain/Oblamer debate on the radio. A huge softball came McCain's way and I started reciting his answer* before he did -- and then the fucker went into a fetal position instead of reciting an answer that even a nobody like me knew by heart. That was the first time it ever occurred to me that he might be blowing the election on purpose. Nothing since has changed my mind.
*It was about the debt crisis and Obama puffed his chest up and said he had written a letter (I guess it must have been really sternly worded cuz he was sure that a letter was going to solve the problem). Well, McCain had written bills, sponsored bills, etc. The answer was as easy as pointing out that writing a letter is pretty friggin' pathetic in the face of real problems, and that McCain had done far more. Instead he played dead like he didn't even know his own record.
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 09:17 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Warning: Cape does not allow user to fly at October 18, 2013 09:17 PM (jt8G9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 09:17 PM (ntk8X)
Mr Gilmore tells people he is a Vietnam Vet and has been all over the world in the service. He lists his service dates as May 75 to Aug 77. Saigon fell in April 75. He never went to Vietnam. He was a cook at Ft Dix the whole time. Doesn't look like he went anywhere. He also claims to have been in the Navy. Nothing on that.
asshole
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 09:17 PM (zOTsN)
CarolT: I haven't responded to you because I am so terrified of losing a sibling, I found it hard to even read your posts. But my prayers are with you.
And yes, I pray that God will release your brother from his suffering. May God help you and yours.
I went through a horrific time with my mother and I am so sorry for the hell you and yours have been through.
Posted by: Donna V. at October 18, 2013 09:20 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 09:20 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 09:23 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 09:26 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 09:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: rickl at October 18, 2013 09:26 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 09:27 PM (7KZod)
Is the GOP in on it? Well, I've never been a conspiracy theorist, but Cohen's "Everybody Knows" has been going through my head the last couple of days:
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Posted by: Donna V. at October 18, 2013 09:29 PM (R3gO3)
asshole
Posted by: thunderb at October 19, 2013 01:17 AM (zOTsN)
Jersey huh? yeah he's probably the dude in sweat pants and food stained wife beater shirt that lives under the boardwalk
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 18, 2013 09:30 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: CarolT at October 18, 2013 09:31 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 09:32 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 09:33 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mindy visiting Midland, TX -- where's the scenery? at October 18, 2013 09:33 PM (sghG8)
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Posted by: Donna V. at October 19, 2013 01:29 AM (R3gO3)
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It is so hard not to at least imagine the possibility. Hell, at least half of the rons/ettes would do a better job of explaining in a soundbite than the supposed pros. I am at a loss to explain it, and the feeling that I am really watching pro wrestling (or the Globetrotters/Wash Generals, etc.) never really leaves me any more.
It seems so real to me that the honest reason why D.C. hates Cruz is that he is too dumb to know that he is not supposed to be actually trying to win.
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 09:34 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: RWC at October 18, 2013 09:36 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Mindy visiting Midland, TX -- where's the scenery? at October 18, 2013 09:36 PM (sghG8)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 09:37 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: Donna V. at October 19, 2013 01:29 AM (R3gO3)
Its really hard to come up with any other plausible explanation.
Posted by: cm9000 at October 18, 2013 09:37 PM (3qZbZ)
***maria posted a picture of herself***
and she looks so go she can flaunt it all she wants. wow.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 09:38 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Mindy visiting Midland, TX -- where's the scenery? at October 18, 2013 09:38 PM (sghG8)
'Never misses picture day.'
Posted by: RWC at October 19, 2013 01:36 AM (LpbKr)
I'm sensing a meme developing.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 09:39 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: RWC at October 18, 2013 09:41 PM (LpbKr)
CarolT: this may sound insane to you and everyone else here, but: I lost my twin sister shortly after we were born. I never knew Diane.
After my parents died (in 1985 and 1989): I had a very vivid dream. In the dream, I walked into the kitchen of the house I grew up in and my mother was there. Smiling. And then my dad walked in from the living room. Well and whole, not sick. And they said, "Donna, we want you to meet someone." I walked into the living room, and a woman who looked exactly like me was sitting on our sofa and smiling. She said "Hello, sister." And I met my twin.
Yes, it was just a dream, CarolT. But since then, I haven't doubted that we will meet our loved ones healthy and whole in heaven.
Atheists, sneer if you like.
Posted by: Donna V. at October 18, 2013 09:41 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at October 18, 2013 09:42 PM (Tjkt6)
Posted by: RWC at October 18, 2013 09:42 PM (LpbKr)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paeu8b70lYo
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 18, 2013 09:44 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 09:44 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: RWC at October 18, 2013 09:46 PM (LpbKr)
yeah I laughed really loud. I admit it
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 18, 2013 09:47 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Mindy visiting Midland, TX -- where's the scenery? at October 18, 2013 09:49 PM (sghG8)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/looazob
I see nothing wrong with it. She looks great, and she's encouraging other women to follow her example in looking great. It's no different from Hulk Hogan bragging about his 24-inch pythons. Maybe most people can't live up to such a standard, and many won't bother, but there's nothing wrong with encouraging them to try.
Provided there's no government coercion involved, of course. Oh, hello, Obamacare!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 09:49 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 09:49 PM (2G0WH)
A while back Ace talked about "nummy" and he was right. Too many people are too busy chasing nummieness rather than facing reality. It's why we have LIVs and MegaLivs.
Hint: MegaLivs think the ACA and Obamacare are two different things.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 09:50 PM (NoIyr)
Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at October 18, 2013 09:50 PM (Tjkt6)
RWC-
lol. I guess everyone needs something to look forward to.
***Oedipus-
I know the chick you're talking about, she's been a big "thing" on FB and social media lately.***
half suspect that it is a guerrilla marketing campaign to launch her career as a fitness model or instructor. she is awesome though.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 09:50 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 09:51 PM (Z9EHQ)
Mr Gilmore continues:
Trained at Fort Dix,New Jersey,took my school at Fort Jackson.South Carolina as a Quartermaster,in Supply Corp,Logistics,and that trained again at Fort Jackson in Food Service Command School,as a Food Service Specialist and other things I learned in the military spoke volumes that I did not know who come and go as we ll as take me a long way in my civilian occupation as well,and I do not regret one minute of it and if I could go back I would do it all over again and that is the truth.Naval Training Center,San Diego,California,as a Mess management Specialist additional training in logistics,support, supervisory role and military police.From the U.S.S.Nimitz CVN-68 with my squadron VS-24 no longer in active service to the Naval training Center,Orlando,Florida 1981-1983,NAS Cecil Field,Jacksonville,Florida VS-24,1983-1985,Naval Amphibious Base,Little Creek,Virginia,U.S.S.Preserver-ARS-8.I have deployed on two Mediterranean deployments during the Cold war era of our country,I lost a cousin on June 3,1966 in Vietnam,that angered me so much it still hurts to this day he as only 22,my father fought in the U.S.Army in the Korean War.I served as a reserve Police Officer as well while stationed at Naval Training Center,Orlando,Florida,My experience and background is endless and I am grateful for what the United States Military taught and trained me in as for the discipline they did not train myself my mother was way ahead of them being a single parent raising I am my two other siblings on her own so when it came to respect and keeping your mouth shout I was way ahead of the rest when it came to that in the Navy,plus prior service in the Army,did not hurt either,So there is some of my back ground experience.
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Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 09:54 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 09:54 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 09:55 PM (2G0WH)
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 09:56 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 09:56 PM (7KZod)
Is the GOP in on it?
Posted by: Donna V. at October 19, 2013 01:29 AM (R3gO3)
Its really hard to come up with any other plausible explanation.
Posted by: cm9000 at October 19, 2013 01:37 AM (3qZbZ)
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One of the reasons why that thought is so hard for me to dismiss is the whole Palin/Media phenomena. To me, knowing what I know as a local, the thing about Palin that was substantially different is that (at the time the media went batshit crazy on her) she had never sold out. She had her chances but she never took the payoff. More than that, she gave the whole vibe that money just wasn't that important to her personally.
So, I really do now entertain the possibility that if someone can't be bought they have to be destroyed. Well, what would be the corollary? If someone has not been destroyed -- they were probably bought.
Bought by whom? Dunno -- who bought the media? Why should it be anyone other than them?
It will be interesting to see how Cruz fairs from here. Will he have a teenaged daughter that can be used against him? Will there be an old girlfriend that suddenly has a story to tell? Did he laugh at a bad joke in the wrong place? If he starts to look like he is getting traction and won't be bought, he will also have to be destroyed.
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 09:57 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 09:57 PM (ntk8X)
After my parents died (in 1985 and 1989): I had a very vivid dream. In the dream, I walked into the kitchen of the house I grew up in and my mother was there. Smiling. And then my dad walked in from the living room. Well and whole, not sick. And they said, "Donna, we want you to meet someone." I walked into the living room, and a woman who looked exactly like me was sitting on our sofa and smiling. She said "Hello, sister." And I met my twin.
Yes, it was just a dream, CarolT. But since then, I haven't doubted that we will meet our loved ones healthy and whole in heaven.
Atheists, sneer if you like.
Posted by: Donna V. at October 19, 2013 01:41 AM (R3gO3)
When I was a kid (like in Elementary School), I gradually developed a rabid atheism. Having skipped second grade, I was overly attached to a sort of junior intellectualism that actually did sneer at belief so that I could feel superior to classmates who were a year older than I was. Around High School, however, it gradually dawned on me that militant atheism was as much a proclamation of Faith as the Catholic catechism, and I came to consider myself more of an agnostic.
Since then, I have come to another interesting fork in the road. I discern little evidence for a being of "good" -- but have come to a sort of Faith regarding the existence of Evil. Mind you, I do not bow to and am thoroughly repulsed by such Evil -- and strongly believe that moral beings should shun Evil with all their might.....but I cannot put a face to "Good" in response.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 09:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2013 01:49 AM (2G0WH)
We live in the Age of the Unaccountable Bureaucrat.
Posted by: cm9000 at October 18, 2013 09:58 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 09:59 PM (ntk8X)
Again, as I said earlier, cooking for soldiers is perfectly respectable. I'm just poking fun at Gilmore, using something he seems to be ashamed of (for no good reason).
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 09:59 PM (7KZod)
We where taught procedures of surveillance to tracking criminals to taking trash to learn there personal habits because we all have them and usually do not very from them ,even if we are on the run from the law,Sound recording also Covert recording.The art of Security protection from a two man detail to as many as we need to keep our "Subject or family" safe while in our care,To a coroners inquest on how the victim died to making as well as giving proper reports with no detail left out which could make or break a case even causing the unsub to be set free because of inaccurate reports filed and given to the prosecutor and judge who depend on accurate as well as detailed police reports given to them.The f
goodness. Making proper reports? really? doubtful
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 10:00 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 10:01 PM (KoFMU)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 10:01 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 10:02 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 10:02 PM (NoIyr)
Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at October 18, 2013 10:03 PM (Tjkt6)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2013 01:49 AM (2G0WH)
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it is always easier to believe in a confederacy of dunces than a conspiracy of geniuses. But, I also believe that incentives matter. Money can make all kinds of people start to behave in similar and predictable ways.
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 10:03 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 10:04 PM (NoIyr)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 10:05 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: Mindy visiting Midland, TX -- where's the scenery? at October 18, 2013 10:05 PM (sghG8)
More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3650
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 18, 2013 10:04 PM (Vk2pI)
Bullying is a fact of life. If you don't learn how to deal with it as a kid, you will be unprepared to deal with it as an adult.
Look no further than GOP trolls like Hollowpoint and JeffB telling us why we must vote Republican:
If you leave the party, you're being childish.
If you leave the party, they will punish you by moving even further left.
If the party won't listen to you, maybe it's because you haven't done enough for them.
If you don't vote Republican, it will be all your fault when the scary scary commie Democrats take over.
These are all attempts to bully and intimidate. They can't say "Look at all the good things Republicans have done. They deserve your vote" because Republicans haven't done jack. So threats are all they've got.
Sadly, most conservatives will give in to this.
Posted by: schizoid at October 18, 2013 10:06 PM (f7zfY)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 19, 2013 01:54 AM (Z9EHQ)-
looking that good is hard work. if she wants to turn it into a career, good for her. not sure where all the outrage is coming from. think megyn's producer got sandbagged.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 10:06 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Mindy visiting Midland, TX -- where's the scenery? at October 18, 2013 10:07 PM (sghG8)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 18, 2013 10:08 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Petulantia at October 18, 2013 10:08 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at October 19, 2013 02:03 AM (Tjkt6)
whoa. think we are on the same side here.
Maria==Smoking Hot and worked hard for it.
Megyn==kinda a bitchy scold.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 10:09 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 10:10 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 10:11 PM (2G0WH)
cthulhu at October 19, 2013 01:57 AM (T1005) I'm like you. I can certainly imagine evil - a devil - we see his works all the time. It's harder to imagine God. I pray and yet I never "feel" anything. I never "feel" a God there. I ask myself "Am I talking to the ceiling fan?"
But - I see good. I believe I will see love ones in heaven. Wishful thinking? But where did the good come from? I don't know why God reveals Himself in such hard-to-discern ways. Why play cat and mouse with us? Why do we have to wonder if you exist, if you're out there? I don't know. All I can do is pay and hope He is listening.
I almost have to believe in a God for my sanity's sake. I have to believe that Anne Frank and Hitler did not end up in the same place and ultimately, there is no justice and no difference between them. I have to believe that if Obama and Holder and the rest of this criminal adminstration escape justice on earth that they will receive justice in the end. I have to believe that the sufferings of those who died on Imo Jima and Normandy and in Tet (my cousin) will not go unrewarded.
Posted by: Donna V. at October 18, 2013 10:11 PM (R3gO3)
Also, that whole "Hands off my body! Rosaries out of my ovaries!" thing, while the Obamacare they support will make "basic and necessary women's medical procedures" such as frickin' abortions totally the federal government's business.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 10:11 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 10:11 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 10:16 PM (+cx5n)
I believe that if God exists that we are dealing with a clockwork God.
So those that think "he" intervenes or that events are "his" will are wrong.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 10:16 PM (NoIyr)
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 10:16 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 18, 2013 10:16 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at October 18, 2013 10:16 PM (Tjkt6)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at October 18, 2013 10:21 PM (hsTmJ)
wasn't Steven Segal a navy cook/seal in one of his movies?
Posted by: thunderb at October 19, 2013 02:05 AM
Posted by: steven seagal at October 18, 2013 10:23 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 19, 2013 02:02 AM (NoIyr)
It's a bit more fundamental than that -- there is an Evil "thing". It's out there, irrespective of personality or prime mover. It's similar to a moral sickness, and it can suck in individuals, groups, and nations. And it always tops itself -- when it slaughters innocents, its next thought is to rape the corpses, then mutilate the bodies and then use them to violate the relatives.
Evil is a real thing, and it's loose upon the world.
An external "Good" is a hope -- a shadow of comfort....a deus ex machina in the thread of our existence. I hope as much as anyone that the cavalry will arrive in time -- and I'll say, "c'mon, horse-guys!" -- but the hope is somewhat threadbare.
But I'll readily grant the Good that people do together. There is something to "laying-on of hands", and a circle of people praying does more good than reading out of a book. Coming together with friends is a strength and a comfort.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 10:24 PM (T1005)
Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 10:24 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 10:24 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 10:24 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: rickl at October 18, 2013 10:24 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 10:25 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS!!! at October 19, 2013 02:16 AM (bCEmE)
It is only weird if you don't win.
Oedipus-
a bit before my time, but I do recall the pin up girls artist article ace posted up a while back. those were some fine looking women.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 10:25 PM (ga+7c)
zombie wrote: For all I know, all believers (and/or all atheists) are ultra-aware super-beings, and I am a uniquely dim-witted dullard.
You know, I think that's not a bad attitude to take. When I've dealt with very militant atheists, I've thought, "Have you ever thought that you are like the color-blind? There have been millions of believers, and you are so sure they're all stupid and blind - how do you know you're the one who can't see what they see?"
I believe (oh Lord, help my unbelief) because life makes no sense to me otherwise. And because Christianity is a wellspring of Western Civilization and undermining one means undermining the other - as leftists well understand and libertarians often do not.
But agnostics frequently have a humility that hardcore atheists do not.
Posted by: Donna V. at October 18, 2013 10:25 PM (R3gO3)
I do not believe in UFO's
There is no Loch Ness Monster
There are no Big Foots
There is no such thing as ghosts
Yet there may be a God.
A few decades ago I had TWO precognitive dreams. Not that de ja vue BS. I am talking I had the dream, woke up remembering it, then had it happen.
If that can happen, then why not a God?
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 10:26 PM (NoIyr)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 10:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: RWC at October 18, 2013 10:26 PM (Ioydr)
Posted by: zombie at October 19, 2013 02:24 AM (+cx5n)
and everyone can go to hell! good to see you over here zombie. have always admired your work.
and with that, see you fappers tomorrow.
Posted by: rich@gmu at October 18, 2013 10:27 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 10:29 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 10:29 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 10:29 PM (vY2x+)
I too am a long-time agnostic, but my struggle has not been the same as yours (that there may not be transcendent Good, but is there transcendent Evil?), but rather the all-important distinction between different levels of agnosticism:
Level 1. What one might deem hardcore agnosticism declares that not only does the individual not know if God exists or not, but moreover declares that it is impossible for anyone to know if God exists or not. One might not think that there is an aggressive form of agnosticism, but there is.
OR
Level 2. What one might deem personal subjective agnosticism, or even (my term) agnosto-agnosticism, which declares that I personally am unsure whether or nor God exists, but also declares that I am also unsure whether or not my lack or surety is a universal constant or just a personal shortcoming of mine.
After much cogitation, I've landed on Level 2, which I accept is the only honest and truly humble form of non-belief. I declare my own inability to apprehend things which seem beyond any apprehension: that includes not only the existence o God, but also the nature of everyone else's grasp of reality.
For all I know, all believers (and/or all atheists) are ultra-aware super-beings, and I am a uniquely dim-witted dullard.
That's true agnosticism. And anyone who doesn't agree with me will be beheaded as they burn at the stake before their constituent meaningless molecules go to hell!
Posted by: zombie at October 19, 2013 02:16 AM (+cx5n)
Yeah, I could go with that.....and it's coupled (in my case) with the firm belief that an omnipotent deity could easily thwap me upside the head and comment from a burning bush: "Hey, dipwad -- over here -- yeah, you! Get with the program!"
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 10:30 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 10:30 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 19, 2013 02:24 AM (T1005)
I would say the horse guys are coming, and they are Conquest, War, Famine, and death.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 18, 2013 10:30 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 18, 2013 10:30 PM (HVff2)
cthulhu, and yet I have seen good in darkness. I have seen good in hopelessness.
I do not rule out the possibility of a benevolent God and I am a fellow agnostic.
We may be expecting certain things from "it" that we must deliver instead of said God.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 18, 2013 10:31 PM (NoIyr)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 10:31 PM (7KZod)
"When the ghost haunts my vagina! You are laughing, but it's very serious," she said. "It's a problem. I know it sounds ridiculous but in all honesty, I believe in all this crazy sh--. So I was told I had dead people in me so I called ... my hypnotherapist. So then she said she had to exorcise my body. And then I got a ghost meter to read it, just beeped at my vagina. It was half off, it's awesome. It seemed to be accurate because I have been going through a dry spell and it was like beeping around and it all makes sense now."
ponder that while ghosts watch you fap. From the inside
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 10:31 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 10:32 PM (ntk8X)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 10:33 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 10:33 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at October 18, 2013 10:34 PM (Tjkt6)
if you have dead people in you, you have been with the original RINO , Nelson Rockerfeller
didn't he die in bed with his mistress?
Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 10:34 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 10:35 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 10:36 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: rickl at October 18, 2013 10:36 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 10:37 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 10:38 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 19, 2013 02:33 AM (Z9EHQ)
Here is an ear cleanser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ZGr1Ncr3w
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 18, 2013 10:38 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 18, 2013 10:39 PM (Ms32D)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 19, 2013 02:31 AM (7KZod)
My thing is sort of like believing that bad microbes cause sickness while not being aware of good microbes causing health. There is Evil out there -- I've brushed against it and felt it -- but when I've sensed Good, it has always been from more familiar situations.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 10:41 PM (T1005)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 10:43 PM (AsRy8)
The 'modern sophisticate' has replaced the concept of a creator deity with sheer random event that breeds nihilism or aliens did it, like 2001 or Prometheus, and end up with cultists for the aliens.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 10:43 PM (ntk8X)
Umm, no. I can't say there isn't some sort of god. That answer to that question is unknown and unknowable.
But I am quite sure that the Bible is false, and the capital-G God described therein does not exist.
Posted by: schizoid the agnostic athiest at October 18, 2013 10:44 PM (PsO/Z)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 18, 2013 10:45 PM (ntk8X)
Still Agnosticism, the idea that human existence is limited and will always be.
Level 2. What one might deem personal subjective agnosticism, or even (my term) agnosto-agnosticism, which declares that I personally am unsure whether or nor God exists, but also declares that I am also unsure whether or not my lack or surety is a universal constant or just a personal shortcoming of mine.
It collapses into a shorter form, no?
For all I know, all believers (and/or all atheists) are ultra-aware super-beings, and I am a uniquely dim-witted dullard.
That's self-denial of a rational being. Whole different kettle of fish, IMHO.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2013 02:43 AM (AsRy
I disagree -- it is quite rational to suppose that widely-held beliefs might result from perceptual differences as a primary hypothesis.....but that would generally be followed by testing intended to support or disprove the hypothesis.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 10:47 PM (T1005)
===
If you are going to play around with that thought, then shouldn't you also play around with the thought that we are all vessels waiting to be filled and the reason you have not yet felt or seen the true opposite of evil is because you have not yet opened that place within yourself for it to reside?
in other words -- maybe you are supposed to be a warrior against evil and until you wholeheartedly take up the fight you will be denied the knowledge.
or, maybe not.
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 10:47 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 18, 2013 10:49 PM (Ms32D)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 19, 2013 02:37 AM (Z9EHQ)
====
my guess is CM9K has it.
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 10:49 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 10:51 PM (AsRy8)
Facebook continues to be lies and unfulfilled promises.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 18, 2013 10:53 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at October 18, 2013 10:53 PM (Tjkt6)
Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at October 18, 2013 10:56 PM (Tjkt6)
Umm, no. I can't say there isn't some sort of god. That answer to that question is unknown and unknowable.
But I am quite sure that the Bible is false, and the capital-G God described therein does not exist.
Posted by: schizoid the agnostic athiest at October 19, 2013 02:44 AM (PsO/Z)
Each book and chapter of the Bible comes from a different perspective -- to say that the whole is "true" or "false" is a telltale sign that the speaker is on the fringes of understanding.
Take, for instance, the Apocrypha -- there are Biblical writings which are found in early works closely bound to accepted writings (e.g. Book of Tobit; Book of Enoch), which were excerpted from later Bibles. Why should other books be canon while these works are treyf?
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 10:58 PM (T1005)
Here is an ear cleanser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ZGr1Ncr3w
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 19, 2013 02:38 AM (FMbng)
===
one of them should be wearing a helmet.
http://tinyurl.com/nr4eg6a
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 10:59 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 11:00 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 11:01 PM (Z9EHQ)
===
If you are going to play around with that thought, then shouldn't you also play around with the thought that we are all vessels waiting to be filled and the reason you have not yet felt or seen the true opposite of evil is because you have not yet opened that place within yourself for it to reside?
in other words -- maybe you are supposed to be a warrior against evil and until you wholeheartedly take up the fight you will be denied the knowledge.
or, maybe not.
Posted by: jc at October 19, 2013 02:47 AM (PlzOe)
Could be....and if I ever get that "thunk" on the cranium, that's the way things'll go. It's like going from a binary math to a trinary math -- instead of "absolutely true" and "absolutely false", there is added the category "unprovable".
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 11:01 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Emperor Constatine at October 18, 2013 11:05 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Oedipus, determined to RIDE THE DECLINE at October 18, 2013 11:05 PM (Tjkt6)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 19, 2013 03:01 AM (T1005)
===
that is kinda the point -- why would a force for good ever want to waste time proving anything to any being that had not yet joined the fight against evil?
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 11:06 PM (PlzOe)
515 + 530 cthulhu
I believe that "evil" does exist, but that it is up to us, mankind, to kick its ass. I mean really kick its ass, with no expectation of supernatural help.
For example, I take serious exception to that quote from Gandhi which anti-war progressives just LOVE to cite:
" 'An eye for an eye' leaves the whole world blind."
They think that's some kind of genius pacifist wisdom. But I hear the same aphorism and my response is, "You're damn fuckin' right it leaves the whole world blind! That's the whole point: it's preferable to a world in which only the victims are blind and the evil bullies can still see, and thus control society!"
The stupid progressive pacifists never think things all the way through.
We must confront evil. We must do it ourselves, and consequently we must be badass. No one will do our dirty work for us.
If some motherfuckers comes and blinds us, hell yeah we SHOULD blind him back, because then we're once again on equal footing. If we refuse to "repeat the cycle of violence," then the bad will win, not just now but forever.
Yeah yeah, the world will be worse off with everyone blind -- but we didn't cause that. The bad guys did. And an all-blind world is better than a half-blind world in which the only people who can see are evil.
What does that lead us to?
It leads us to Stalingrad. To Hiroshima. To Dresden. To the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Fuck with us? There will be hell to pay. We will bomb you to oblivion if necessary.
War is the agnostics' St. Michael, evolution, and hell, all wrapped up together, in human form.
Posted by: zombie at October 19, 2013 03:00 AM (+cx5n)
There is a lot here that rings with truth. Evil exists, and roams the world -- but our lot is to oppose it. If there is a divine intercessor, it shouldn't be counted upon -- because it is the duty of every moral being to fight Evil whether or not we triumph....because our opposition is, in itself, a victory for Good.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 11:08 PM (T1005)
Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 11:10 PM (+cx5n)
cranium, that's the way things'll go. It's like going from a binary math
to a trinary math -- instead of "absolutely true" and "absolutely
false", there is added the category "unprovable".
Posted by: cthulhu at October 19, 2013 03:01 AM (T1005)
===that is kinda the point -- why would a force for good ever want to waste time proving anything to any being that had not yet joined the fight against evil?
Posted by: jc at October 19, 2013 03:06 AM (PlzOe)
As seen @572 -- recognizing Evil is enough to form an opposition.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 11:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 11:13 PM (+cx5n)
Gandhi was full of shit about a lot of stuff. He also suggested the Jews in Europe could give the Nazis a comeuppance by committing mass suicide. Like this would make the Nazis feel bad or something rather than think how remarkably convenient it was. But then, Gandhi never had to face the Nazis directly and probably never gave much thought to what would happen if the UK was conquered.
One of my favorite alternate history stories deals with that. Gandhi and Nehru realize much too late that non-violent resistance is useless against people who were planning to kill you all along.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 18, 2013 11:14 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 11:15 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: schizoid at October 18, 2013 11:15 PM (PsO/Z)
http://tinyurl.com/nr4eg6a
Posted by: jc at October 19, 2013 02:59 AM (PlzOe)
Yeah don't give them any ideas. The bass player looks like he just stepped out of a mead hall as it is. I'm really liking this band, but then again it is somewhat similar to the shit I usually play anyway. Yeah I'm fucked up. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2WqQY_xSSM
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 18, 2013 11:15 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Epobirs at October 18, 2013 11:17 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: cthulhu
Thanks for saying the same thing I did but better and more concisely. Harrumph!
Posted by: zombie at October 19, 2013 03:13 AM (+cx5n)
As someone who respects your work immensely, I am honored beyond measure by your praise.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 11:17 PM (T1005)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 11:18 PM (AsRy8)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 11:18 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: jc
They why did God reveal himself to Saul on the road to Damascus? Up until that moment he was a bureaucrat who actively persecuted Christians. God thwapped him upside the head and he was like DA-YUMM, DUDE! and instantly joined Team God.
That's why "a force for good ever want to waste time proving anything to any being that had not yet joined the fight against evil". Because it can create a new ally out of a former enemy.
Posted by: zombie at October 19, 2013 03:10 AM (+cx5n)
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Perhaps my wording could have be more clear.
However, I also want to avoid reading into your wording the concept that no one has a responsibility unless God chooses to reveal himself to them.
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 11:22 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: schizoid at October 19, 2013 03:15 AM (PsO/Z)
Which is where I came in.....there is a "thing" that is Evil -- it spreads like a contagion, it sparks instinctual repulsion, its results in the world are ruin, and its effects on the soul are worse. Good isn't nearly as clear.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 11:23 PM (T1005)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 11:23 PM (AsRy8)
But that is the core of Pascal's Wager. That some things being unknowable in life, it is better to believe and thus be prepared for what might come rather than not. It's an early version of Game Theory. If the Church's version of things is correct, you are rewarded for believing. If the Church's claim are just made up nonsense, there is no penalty for believing or not believing. Thus the only choice that produces a reward is believing.
My take is that insincere belief would be detected and have negative results. So it is better to be sincere in your belief or disbelief but still have some acknowledgement of the need for morality in your life.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 18, 2013 11:24 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: schizoid at October 18, 2013 11:26 PM (PsO/Z)
But that is the core of Pascal's Wager. That some things being unknowable in life, it is better to believe and thus be prepared for what might come rather than not. It's an early version of Game Theory. If the Church's version of things is correct, you are rewarded for believing. If the Church's claim are just made up nonsense, there is no penalty for believing or not believing. Thus the only choice that produces a reward is believing.
My take is that insincere belief would be detected and have negative results. So it is better to be sincere in your belief or disbelief but still have some acknowledgement of the need for morality in your life.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 19, 2013 03:24 AM (kcfmt)
And this, too, fits within my moral compass. When called before the Throne, I intend to ask: "where the fuck were you, while I was fighting Evil? You want to judge? -- you could have dropped a postcard. Instead, you left me to fight alone."
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 11:30 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Doctor Evil at October 18, 2013 11:30 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 11:30 PM (AsRy8)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 11:30 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: schizoid at October 19, 2013 03:26 AM (PsO/Z)
I'm so glad that you're catching up. My original line of discussion was that "Evil" was a "thing" -- let me know when you've digested that.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 11:32 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Epobirs at October 19, 2013 03:17 AM (kcfmt)
That is my strategy in a nutshell, in fact. My backup plan is based on the hope that it's not a coincidence that G-d is d-g spelled backwards.
Posted by: HTL at October 18, 2013 11:32 PM (nWypX)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 11:33 PM (AsRy8)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 18, 2013 11:34 PM (Ms32D)
Posted by: Epobirs at October 19, 2013 03:17 AM (kcfmt)
That is my strategy in a nutshell, in fact. My backup plan is based on the hope that it's not a coincidence that G-d is d-g spelled backwards.
Posted by: HTL at October 19, 2013 03:32 AM (nWypX)
It is my sincere belief than anyone who kicked a dog is going to find themselves in an uphill battle in the afterlife -- and anyone who abandoned a dog to die in the wilderness is virtually certain to feel eternal torment.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 11:35 PM (T1005)
Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 11:36 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 18, 2013 11:37 PM (Ms32D)
Plenty have made the same criticism before but Pascal has always appealed to the 'go along to get along' crowd. Kind of like RINOs.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 18, 2013 11:39 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 11:40 PM (KoFMU)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 18, 2013 11:41 PM (Ms32D)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 11:42 PM (KoFMU)
Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 11:42 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 11:43 PM (Z9EHQ)
being unknowable in life, it is better to believe and thus be prepared
for what might come rather than not.
What if God doesn't want you to believe? Maybe he will punish you for believing! Since there's no way to know, it's better to disbelieve, just to be safe.
Posted by: schizoid at October 18, 2013 11:44 PM (PsO/Z)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 18, 2013 11:44 PM (AsRy8)
564: Ok, you got me. It's highly unlikely the Bible is 100% false. But I
am still sure that the capital-G God described therein does not exist.
Posted by: schizoid at October 19, 2013 03:15 AM (PsO/Z)
Which is where I came in.....there is a "thing" that is Evil -- it spreads like a contagion, it sparks instinctual repulsion, its results in the world are ruin, and its effects on the soul are worse. Good isn't nearly as clear.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 19, 2013 03:23 AM (T1005)
And, BTW, this is why I so deeply appreciate Slapweasel. I just can't do it, myself. I can't fully visualize and personify a Good to do what needs to be done -- what I so much hope and wish to be done. It all dams up against the cloud of my doubts when I work on it......but when Slappy lays words down, I can channel all of my effort and will and hope and empathy through them -- and bang the hammer with an "amen."
Posted by: cthulhu at October 18, 2013 11:45 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 11:46 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 18, 2013 11:47 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 18, 2013 11:47 PM (Ms32D)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 11:48 PM (KoFMU)
Posted by: Epobirs at October 18, 2013 11:48 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 18, 2013 11:50 PM (KoFMU)
Gandhi would then think, "Ah! Just like the British here in India!" Note that he really hated the British, and I think that's where his love for the Nazis originally came from, having a shared enemy (Great Britain)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 18, 2013 11:50 PM (7KZod)
Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at October 18, 2013 11:50 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 19, 2013 03:37 AM (Ms32D)
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well, I will take it as a given that others wish to enslave us, and that it is their nature. I see no reason to deny it.
I will even take it as a given that my resistance to slavery is probably doomed -- if for no other reason than the merger of the last 5k years of history and the statistical concept of reversion to the mean. Or, perhaps the reason will be the tendency of a certain percentage of the population to prefer being subject over being a citizen. That is also in their nature, and I can see no reason to deny that either.
However, I am still going to oppose slavery because in my core I have no choice. It is simply something I have to do. I know I'm losing, and I suspect I am doomed -- just as you say. But, that doesn't actually change anything.
Posted by: jc at October 18, 2013 11:54 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: rickl at October 18, 2013 11:56 PM (sdi6R)
I rather doubt it. Gandhi was pretty well educated and had traveled a fair bit, including studying law in London and practicing in South Africa. Also, Judaism is not unknown within India historically.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_India
Posted by: Epobirs at October 18, 2013 11:56 PM (kcfmt)
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Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 19, 2013 12:06 AM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: Adriane... at October 19, 2013 12:07 AM (KoFMU)
"when I've sensed Good, it has always been from more familiar situations." Posted by: cthulhu at October 19, 2013 02:41 AM (T1005)
And that is probably where God is found - if we open ourselves up to that possibility. I'm like you - I want a big St. Paul on the road to Damascus moment where all doubt is removed - and it doesn't happen. Maybe it's because we're to find God in smaller experiences.
It's easy to say, when something really bad happens, "Why did God permit this evil?" Perhaps we should be saying, "Why does good exist in the world, if we're just animals? Animals don't give a shit what's going on in another state or even in what's going on across the street. How is it we're able to rise above basic selfishness from time to time and care?"
Posted by: Donna V. at October 19, 2013 12:10 AM (R3gO3)
Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at October 19, 2013 12:11 AM (Vk2pI)
That was the point of the short story I referenced. It's in one of the Greenberg anthologies.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 19, 2013 12:26 AM (kcfmt)
"So what are we left with?"
A step closer to Revolution (aka. course correction). Punishment of the progressive class will be forthcoming.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 19, 2013 12:27 AM (vylMx)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 19, 2013 12:29 AM (AsRy8)
Posted by: Merovign,
For shame.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2013 04:29 AM (AsRy
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The way I remember it, Carnot had some thoughts on scold and perpetual motion.
Posted by: jc at October 19, 2013 12:31 AM (PlzOe)
"An expert is an ordinary fella away from home."
"The only discipline that last is self discipline."
"Two kinds of ballplayers aren't worth a darn: One that never does what he's told, and one who does nothin' except what he's told."
"You don't know a ladder has splinters until you slide down it."
"How do you win? By getting average players to play good and good players to play great. That's how you win."
"Winning is only half of it. Having fun is the other half."
God bless Bum Phillips.
Posted by: Brisco_County at October 19, 2013 12:34 AM (B0Zzk)
And that is probably where God is found - if we open ourselves up to that possibility. I'm like you - I want a big St. Paul on the road to Damascus moment where all doubt is removed - and it doesn't happen. Maybe it's because we're to find God in smaller experiences.
It's easy to say, when something really bad happens, "Why did God permit this evil?" Perhaps we should be saying, "Why does good exist in the world, if we're just animals? Animals don't give a shit what's going on in another state or even in what's going on across the street. How is it we're able to rise above basic selfishness from time to time and care?"
Posted by: Donna V. at October 19, 2013 04:10 AM (R3gO3)
Like I said, I was an atheist when I was a young snot that didn't know anything.....then I became an agnostic. As an agnostic, I leave myself open to divine influence....but do my best regardless.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 19, 2013 12:38 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 19, 2013 12:40 AM (X9Mnx)
It's the first time I've seen it since it aired in 1976.
Posted by: rickl at October 19, 2013 03:56 AM
It's blocked on youtube from what I can see. Any links?
Posted by: otho at October 19, 2013 12:42 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: rickl at October 19, 2013 12:48 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 19, 2013 12:51 AM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: rickl at October 19, 2013 12:54 AM (sdi6R)
I downloaded that sucker the minute I saw it.
Here's the downloading utility I used. Save it for future reference.
http://www.savevid.com/
Posted by: rickl at October 19, 2013 04:54 AM
Thanks. I've found some songs there awhile ago... good sound quality too (not as good as the LP, but...) All gone now.
Posted by: otho at October 19, 2013 01:01 AM (9gNQd)
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Posted by: Shane at October 19, 2013 03:30 AM (70CRT)
otho, if you haven't found him already there are great DVD's of Rory Gallagher out there.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at October 19, 2013 06:33 AM
Hey Dave. Gallagher. The Master. I hate him so much. My fave live recording of his... live at the Celtic 94. "Continental Op" (first song)... on fire.
Posted by: otho at October 19, 2013 03:33 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: mindful webworker - really? at October 19, 2013 03:41 AM (Xfofp)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 18, 2013 10:50 PM (Z9EHQ)"
Are you saying that there are some foods that it is not acceptable to slather with salsa? Interesting.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 19, 2013 03:50 AM (q1sF4)
Don't suppose y'all've seen one around hyar? Posted by: mindful webworker - really?
Smells like old socks in the hamper. And takes 40 forevers to load....
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Posted by: Mr. Dave at October 19, 2013 04:15 AM (hsTmJ)
Good luck with your nephew. I hope you can help turn his life around. I know it's a huge challenge.
We knew a couple who had kids in the same grades as our kids in grade school. They took in their neice under similar circumstances. They tried for three years to help her. They put her in their kids little Catholic school, did everything they could to help her. They finally gave up after she stole their car.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 19, 2013 04:53 AM (wtvvX)
Just, wow, man. Wow.
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