November 02, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (2 Nov 2013)
— CDR M

Don't forget to set your clocks back an hour before you hit the rack as daylight savings ends tomorrow.

Capt. Kirk Is For Realz!

Meet Captain James Kirk, the commanding officer of the USS Zumwalt. Nope, no T. for Tiberius in the middle name though. Hopefully the Zumwalt is more seaworthy than some think.

Figures Of Speech

Illustrated by Monty Python's Flying Circus.

10 Figures of Speech from Max Tohline on Vimeo.

Hybrid Solar Eclipse

Yo! A little celestial action is happening tomorrow morning for some of you morons. Rare hybrid solar eclipse may be visible for eastern US Sunday morning. Just remember to put on your pants when you go outside.
UPDATE: I just saw that CAC had posted it earlier today. Fuck it. I'm not changing the ONT.
UPDATE2: Commenter rickl posted this in the comments but if you put in your lat/long, you can see the historical eclipses for your location and future one. Solar Eclipse Explorer.
UPDATE3: SMOD really is a tease. Here's a list of all the upcoming near misses. NEO Earth Close Approaches. Over 30 this month.

Video Games

Brain regions can be specifically trained with video games. And to think they only did this by playing 30 minutes a day. Imagine what all day will do for you!

In comparison to the control group the video gaming group showed increases of grey matter, in which the cell bodies of the nerve cells of the brain are situated. These plasticity effects were observed in the right hippocampus, right prefrontal cortex and the cerebellum. These brain regions are involved in functions such as spatial navigation, memory formation, strategic planning and fine motor skills of the hands. Most interestingly, these changes were more pronounced the more desire the participants reported to play the video game.

Image source.

The Story Continues...

Devin Barnes, accused of writing the n-word on Red Lobster receipt, to sue waitress and restaurant. Oh my.

Food Cutaways

Some pretty nifty cutaways to give you an insider's view of your food.

A No Shitter Story

This is the most embarrassing plane-pooping story ever.

I manage to peel back the leather seat top to find a rather luxurious looking commode, with a nice cherry or walnut frame. It had obviously never been used, ever. Why this moment of clarity came to me, I do not know. Perhaps it was the realization that I was going to take this toilet's virginity with a fury and savagery that was an abomination to its delicate craftsmanship and quality. I imagined some poor Italian carpenter weeping over the violently soiled remains of his once beautiful creation. The lament lasted only a second as I was quickly back to concentrating on the tiny muscle that stood between me and molten hot lava.

h/t tmi3rd

SR-72

Meet the SR-72. Hypersonic? Cool. Mach 6? Very nice. Carries weapons? Excellent. Wait a sec. Where's the cockpit? Curse you Skynet.

Cat Video

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1 Howdy ONT!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 06:20 PM (DmNpO)

2 first

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 06:21 PM (GEICT)

3 I liked your car post earlier NDH.

Posted by: CDR M at November 02, 2013 06:21 PM (OJvfL)

4 Damn you NDH!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 06:21 PM (GEICT)

5 I have to ask about the Canadian mayor ... The jacket he's wearing: is it some sort of 21st Century answer to "Members Only", or did they have to "let out" the sides about 15 sizes?

Posted by: Arbalest at November 02, 2013 06:24 PM (FlRtG)

6 How much daylight did you save? Can you use it at night?

Posted by: BignJames at November 02, 2013 06:24 PM (j7iSn)

7 Good evening, Horde. Perusing sweater patterns for ME.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 02, 2013 06:24 PM (N/cFh)

8 It looks like that ship would tip over in a good stiff side-wind.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 06:25 PM (DmNpO)

9 I can't believe Nebraska won,had to go out after the int deep in their territory.

Posted by: steevy at November 02, 2013 06:25 PM (zqvg6)

10 That picture of Obama and his gang having a laugh at our expense posted above really makes them look like a bunch of assholes...someday, that's going to be an iconic photo of this current era--and not in the way they smugly intended when they first put it out...

Posted by: JoeyBagels at November 02, 2013 06:27 PM (Usdw3)

11 Moral of the story.... don't ever shit on a private aircraft unless it is your own epic he never mentioned where the TP was located

Posted by: vomit launch at November 02, 2013 06:27 PM (ShNqq)

12 Some amazingly talented and flexible female gymnasts from the Ukraine.
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/256071928785299813/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 06:27 PM (uVVG+)

13 3 I liked your car post earlier NDH.

Posted by: CDR M at November 02, 2013 10:21 PM (OJvfL)


I did too. If I wasn't busy most of the afternoon and had seen it earlier, I would have been all over that thread

I've suggested a weekend car thread to Ace, he liked the idea but never got back to me on it

Anyone who wants a regular Weekend Car Thread, say +1 with your comment

I'll volunteer to write them up if Ace says yes


Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 06:28 PM (aTXUx)

14 +1, kbdabear. I don't really know much about them, but I like to read about them.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 02, 2013 06:29 PM (N/cFh)

15 Sorry but the Zumwalt class, all three of them, have already been relegated to the dust bin.  So Capt. Kirk is Capt. Dunsel.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 06:29 PM (uVVG+)

16 CDR M, the plane toilet story was posted yesterday over at the H2. You get it from there or just coincidence?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 06:30 PM (GEICT)

17 +1. Love cars. And trucks, for that matter.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 02, 2013 06:30 PM (6rcHp)

18 Sorry but the Zumwalt class, all three of them, have already been relegated to the dust bin. So Capt. Kirk is Capt. Dunsel. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 10:29 PM (uVVG+) wait!! why? staying with Arleigh Burk class?

Posted by: vomit launch at November 02, 2013 06:31 PM (ShNqq)

19

It looks like that ship would tip over in a good stiff side-wind.

 

At Mach 6, there are no sidewinds.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 02, 2013 06:31 PM (BAS5M)

20 Update: the Weber grill is all put together and functioning. I didn't even have "leftover" parts. Tomorrow grilled bratwurst for it's inauguration

Posted by: Ma Bell at November 02, 2013 06:31 PM (RLdcX)

21 BC, I got in the AoSHQ journolist email. Didn't realize it was up at H2.

Posted by: CDR M at November 02, 2013 06:32 PM (OJvfL)

22 kbdabear

+1. I'd read it. Although most of my cars have been the drive them until they're scrap type. What can I say, I am cheep.

Although I do get the wife a whole lot better cars.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 02, 2013 06:32 PM (MnSla)

23 first

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 10:21 PM (GEICT)


ha HA!  



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 02, 2013 06:32 PM (Gk3SS)

24 Thank you CDR M. Good Evening, Last week when I was in ME and had free continental breakfast I really enjoyed the eggs and hash browns. I always associate eggs with being sick for some reason. I went to the store Thursday to buy eggs and frozen hash browns. I just made them,they were delicious. I didnÂ’t think of it until now, you guys mention it so much, I should have bought bacon too!

Posted by: CarolT at November 02, 2013 06:32 PM (z4WKX)

25 "The Story Continues... Devin Barnes, accused of writing the n-word on Red Lobster receipt, to sue waitress and restaurant. Oh my." Good, and I hope that Tawanna Brawley and that Duke Lacrosse Team Ho also got sued. The Ho is probably pulling in some good money at $10 a pop, and it wouldn't surprise me if ol' Tawanna is also doing any piece of filth for fiver.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 02, 2013 06:33 PM (AALPt)

26 We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House.

Posted by: John McCain at November 02, 2013 06:33 PM (Pr6hk)

27 Yes Carol, you MUST have bacon!

Posted by: CDR M at November 02, 2013 06:33 PM (OJvfL)

28 cheap dammit

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 02, 2013 06:33 PM (MnSla)

29 wait!!

why?

staying with Arleigh Burk class?

Posted by: vomit launch at November 02, 2013 10:31 PM (ShNqq)

--------------------

 

Democrat president and majority in congress. They have constituents to support. And their constituents rarely work for a living.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 02, 2013 06:34 PM (98AOY)

30 Evening fappers! Cougars birthday weekend continues to be awesome. Great dinner tonight, like one of the best ever. Then met a buddy for roll-the-dice-for-shots at a bar nearby. Really a cool idea: five bucks, roll a twenty-sided die, your number corresponds with the shot you get, everything from rail tequila to Crown Black. I got a Bulleit bourbon, Apple Pucker and Knob Creek Maple.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 02, 2013 06:34 PM (eQJwb)

31 Monty Python?  Never heard of him

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 02, 2013 06:34 PM (Pr6hk)

32 Oh my gosh. Flying on a private plane was on my bucket list. No more after that story.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 06:34 PM (RZ8pf)

33 Zumwalt was never an Arleigh Burke replacement,it's not really a guided missile destroyer ,it will carry self defense missiles only.It was designed for gunfire support from far off shore.Burkes will continue to be built.

Posted by: steevy at November 02, 2013 06:35 PM (zqvg6)

34 I do not like toilet humor.... at all. Not in the least. That said, I now have tears streaming down my face from laughing at that story. Damn, that was funny.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 06:35 PM (DmNpO)

35 Even if you don't like your socialism, you're gonna have to keep your socialism

Posted by: Bill Ayers at November 02, 2013 06:35 PM (Pr6hk)

36 But a 600 foot 10000 ton "Destroyer" is silly,call it a land attack cruiser or strike cruiser.

Posted by: steevy at November 02, 2013 06:35 PM (zqvg6)

37 The price tag kept climbing on the DDG-1000 class.  So each of the three, depending upon whom you talk to, costs about $3.5 billion each.  So years ago the US Navy restarted the Burke class.

Now if anyone can figure out what good the LCS is for, the US Navy might get better.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 06:35 PM (uVVG+)

38 Stalking kittehs are funny to play with

When they're in the stalking crouch, kittehs will usually wiggle their butts just before attacking

I wish women would do that


Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 06:35 PM (aTXUx)

39 21 BC, I got in the AoSHQ journolist email. Didn't realize it was up at H2. Posted by: CDR M at November 02, 2013 10:32 PM (OJvfL) Cool. Someone put it up in the comments over there late yesterday. Just funny that it showed up here the next night.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 06:35 PM (GEICT)

40 Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) who invited Sebelius to the city, bristled at some of the questions she was asked, saying “Change is hard. Get over it. Barack Obama is president, and the Affordable Care Act is the law.” Yeah. Get over it when you lose your next election.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 02, 2013 06:36 PM (e8kgV)

41 ha HA! Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 02, 2013 10:32 PM (Gk3SS) Your hotassery was ruined by a horrific shirt. ha HA!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 06:37 PM (GEICT)

42

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 10:34 PM (RZ8pf)



That the smaller planes, like LearJets and Citations, which only fly about 1500 miles per hop.  Get on a Gulfstream or the like, and it will have a fancy privy

Posted by: Bill Lear at November 02, 2013 06:37 PM (Pr6hk)

43 Thanks, CDR M. I was about to post the link for the Solar Eclipse Explorer again. I've been playing around with it. It's fun. You can also search for lunar eclipses and planetary transits as well.

Posted by: rickl at November 02, 2013 06:37 PM (sdi6R)

44 It would really be a great political statement to print out big copies of the laughing leftist Obamacare photo and hang it on trees or telephone polls, Heck, I;'d even buy a poster if the person who made it up sold it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 02, 2013 06:37 PM (23Kgq)

45 No,they never were meant to replace the Burkes.

Posted by: steevy at November 02, 2013 06:37 PM (zqvg6)

46 Saw "Ender's Game" today. I never read the book so it may be different or explained better but- SPOILER--SPOILER----SPOILER!!!! * * * * The ending didn't make sense as presented. As presented by the movie, Ender essentially snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. As the "mind game" portrayed, he succumbed to the Queen's psychological warfare via her psychic power by confusing the love of his sister with the Queen. Much as her subjects might feel. Though this was portrayed as some kind of moral awakening, it was actually a horrific defeat and moral fall. Kind of like what you see at the end of "Let Me In"(foreign version). It's not the triumph of young love. It's the victory of the vampire in gaining a minion who confuses her control for love. END OF SPOILER***** So those who've read the books...is that the case? Eventually the Queen is shown to have manipulated Ender or is it something else entirely?

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 02, 2013 06:37 PM (CRY7r)

47 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 06:38 PM (JMmQ9)

48 Miss Me Yet?

Posted by: James from Plains at November 02, 2013 06:38 PM (Pr6hk)

49 26 We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama Hillary in the White House.
Posted by: John McCain at November 02, 2013 10:33 PM

FIFY, Senator Snarly

Posted by: The Fixer at November 02, 2013 06:39 PM (aTXUx)

50 Your hotassery was ruined by a horrific shirt. ha HA! Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 10:37 PM (GEICT) There will be other shirts. There won't be another chance to be first on this ONT.

Posted by: Vendette at November 02, 2013 06:39 PM (EWSzw)

51 Daylight Savings Time" If you like your daylight, you can keep your daylight. Yes, you can use it at night. I know that, because I am the smartest President ever. They all say so.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama Smith at November 02, 2013 06:40 PM (v6hyJ)

52 There won't be another chance to be first on this ONT. Posted by: Vendette at November 02, 2013 10:39 PM (EWSzw) The good thing about ONTs, there's one every night. Somehow I'll soldier on.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 06:40 PM (GEICT)

53 Why should daylight savings be honored when there are planets less fortunate?

Posted by: adams black hole porn at November 02, 2013 06:41 PM (R6JT1)

54 I liked your car post earlier NDH. *** thanks. I really enjoyed reading about the first and best cars owned by the horde.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 06:41 PM (DmNpO)

55 >>>Your hotassery was ruined by a horrific shirt. Wow. Way to skyline yourself there champ. I'm just gonna hide under the table for a while.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 02, 2013 06:41 PM (eQJwb)

56 Eventually the Queen is shown to have manipulated Ender or is it something else entirely? Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 02, 2013 10:37 PM (CRY7r) ***SPOILERS**** Not sue how the movie portrays it. If you are just talking about how the Queen can communicate, I think what they meant to convey is that the Queen can not communicate via language, so she communicates through memories and thoughts, and that's what she's limited to. The following books make it clear that he's had a moral awakening, and it's not mind control or anything of the sort. ***END SPOILERS*****

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at November 02, 2013 06:42 PM (E8IHS)

57 What? Please those who have read the book and seen the movie please tell me they didn't change the outcome? Tell me in the broadest possible terms so no spoilers. I thought Orson Scott Card was responsible for the script. He wouldn't screw it up, would he?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 06:42 PM (RZ8pf)

58 So those who've read the books...is that the case?

Eventually the Queen is shown to have manipulated Ender or is it something else entirely?


In the book, the Queen realizes that human beings are sentient after all.  In their previous encounters with humans, the bugs did not realize that humans had intelligence.  To them, humans were just mindless creatures.  The psychic connection between Ender and the Queen is possible because the faster-than-lightspeed communication both the humans and bugs use are similar "frequencies" and the bugs just happen to tune into Ender's channel, and so they build the "game" he plays as a guide to the final resting place of their last queen.

Not sure how the movie makes this last part out to be. 

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 06:42 PM (doBIb)

59 At Mach 6, there are no sidewinds. *** I'm laughing my ass off now trying to picture that destroyer moving at Mach-6.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 06:43 PM (DmNpO)

60

I didnÂ’t think of it until now, you guys mention it so much, I should have bought bacon too!

 

 

Next thing you'll be telling us that you post comments while wearing pants.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 06:43 PM (TRBrq)

61 Wow. Way to skyline yourself there champ. I'm just gonna hide under the table for a while. Posted by: DC in Towson at November 02, 2013 10:41 PM (eQJwb) Coward

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 06:43 PM (GEICT)

62 Your hotassery was ruined by a horrific shirt.


ha HA! Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 10:37 PM (GEICT)


Joke's on you!   I'm not wearing a shirt.


*bounds off all innocent*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 02, 2013 06:43 PM (Gk3SS)

63 Yes, Jimmy. I miss you, if only for the fact that as bad as that time was, I think that-unlike our current President-you actually loved America and the people of the U.S. You just weren't a good President. And I'd be willing to pout down money that also-unlike you-Obama will never do any hands on charity after leaving office-unless it's a brief thing for a photo op. I also know that-also unlike you-Obama won't be teaching any Sunday adult Bible classes after he leaves office.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 02, 2013 06:44 PM (23Kgq)

64
Heard through the neighborhood grapevine that a gal on the block had her dog snatched by a coyote.  She has a tiny fluff-ball, and she put it in the car while she was juggling things, and the 'yot snaked it right off the seat and made tracks.

Luckily, a guy was driving by and saw this, hit his brights and the coyote dropped the dog in surprise. $3000 in vet bills and still -- maybe yes maybe no.

This whole urban wildlife thing is getting just a little too survival of the fittest around here for my taste.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 02, 2013 06:44 PM (kdS6q)

65 Zumwalt's son, Zumwalt III bought my granddad's house in Fayetteville in the 70's, I think it was. He was a swiftboat commander and died of cancer. Agent Orange.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 06:44 PM (4Mv1T)

66 thanks. I really enjoyed reading about the first and best cars owned by the horde. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 10:41 PM

Thanks for the compliment that I could spout car tech specs quicker than Mona Lisa Vito.

Of course, we have a real live Mona Lisa Vito among the moronettes, and that's Anna Puma

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 06:44 PM (aTXUx)

67 Ok gulf stream for me. What about bombardier? How are those jets?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 06:44 PM (RZ8pf)

68 So AlextheChick, which of those boots did you order?? 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 06:45 PM (uVVG+)

69 Joke's on you! I'm not wearing a shirt. *bounds off all innocent* Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 02, 2013 10:43 PM (Gk3SS) You bounded while topless. That ain't exactly a punishment.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 06:45 PM (GEICT)

70 Next thing you'll be telling us that you post comments while wearing pants. Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 10:43 PM (TRBrq) I am wearing pants, of a sort, black leggings that I wear around my house at night for comfort. So yes, I have pants on!

Posted by: CarolT at November 02, 2013 06:45 PM (z4WKX)

71 Hey TR!


Fieldgrade?


Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 06:45 PM (doBIb)

72 Aloha, from Beautiful Downtown Burbank!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 02, 2013 06:46 PM (VkRIA)

73 My neighbor tore her teacup poodle out of the jaws of a coyote a few years ago. She thought it was just a big dog. Color her surprised when we told her that no in fact that was a coyote. Dog lived after expensive surgery.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 06:47 PM (RZ8pf)

74 So AlextheChick, which of those boots did you order??
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 10:45 PM (uVVG+)


*shifty eyes*


None of them.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 02, 2013 06:47 PM (Gk3SS)

75 Kitteh!

Posted by: Zakn at November 02, 2013 06:47 PM (zyaZ1)

76 You bounded while topless. That ain't exactly a punishment. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 10:45 PM (GEICT)


Well, it is for me when I get a black eye.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 02, 2013 06:48 PM (Gk3SS)

77 *shifty eyes* None of them. *shifty eyes* Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 02, 2013 10:47 PM (Gk3SS) *ahem* Empress? Care for this cup of water?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 06:48 PM (GEICT)

78 40 Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) who invited Sebelius to the city, bristled at some of the questions she was asked, saying “Change is hard. Get over it. Barack Obama is president, and the Affordable Care Act is the law.” Yeah. Get over it when you lose your next election. Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 02, 2013 10:36 PM (e8kgV) Interesting. Usually they try to cover up their contempt for the taxpayers. "Shut up, and do what you're told" is so much more honest.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 02, 2013 06:48 PM (AALPt)

79 What is the H2? Am I missing another blog? Please??

Posted by: CarolT at November 02, 2013 06:49 PM (z4WKX)

80 Make sure you scroll to the bottom of The Story Continues... for the beer ad.

Posted by: toby928© at November 02, 2013 06:49 PM (QupBk)

81 Well, it is for me when I get a black eye. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 02, 2013 10:48 PM (Gk3SS) You gotta remember to take the jewelry out first.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at November 02, 2013 06:49 PM (GEICT)

82 None of them.

Will you need an intervention because if this is opposite day, none means all.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 06:50 PM (uVVG+)

83 H2...hostages on wordpress?

Posted by: adams black hole porn at November 02, 2013 06:50 PM (R6JT1)

84 Will you need an intervention because if this is opposite day, none means all.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 10:50 PM (uVVG+)


No, no, no intervention needed.   It's not a problem!   I can stop whenever I want!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 02, 2013 06:51 PM (Gk3SS)

85 "Hopefully the Zumwalt is more seaworthy than some think."

That sucker's going to be ever so much fun to ride in the North Atlantic in wintertime. I expect entire ship's complements to stagger off the dock at Norfolk and immediately put in their separation papers in shaky handwriting.

That's in the Atlantic. In a healthy Pacific typhoon? Um, yeah. Go read the histories of Typhoon Cobra in 1944. The crew will be leaving the service, all right, but not in a way conducive to future civilian employment. Contemplate what happened to the crews of the _Monaghan_, the _Spence_ or the _Hull_.

Seriously, it's as though generations of naval architects and their hard-learned lessons about good seakeeping behavior had never existed. All thrown away. And for what? To provide "stealth".

"Stealth" for a ship the size of a pocket battleship. Criminy.

Between this, the LCS, the F-35, and Obama's zampolits firing everyone in the services who doesn't conform to their increasingly insane identity-politics dictates, the country had better hope it doesn't get in any truly serious wars any time in the next twenty years. Because it'll lose.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 02, 2013 06:51 PM (gqT4g)

86 >>>Well, it is for me when I get a black eye. It may or may not have moved. Not telling.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 02, 2013 06:51 PM (eQJwb)

87 40 Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) who invited Sebelius to the city, bristled at some of the questions she was asked, saying “Change is hard. Get over it. Barack Obama is president, and the Affordable Care Act is the law.” In short, we need to break a few million eggs to get a Health Care Omelette.

Posted by: Vladimir Sebelius at November 02, 2013 06:52 PM (ZyqBH)

88 Thanks for the clarification various and sundry fellow morons. I guess it was a failure of direction or narrative. I could tell they wanted us to feel that he'd had a moral awakening but the way the movie was structured it sure seemed the other way making the ending deeply pessimistic and ironic.

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 02, 2013 06:52 PM (CRY7r)

89 Hey TR! Fieldgrade? Posted by: EC Yup. The alter ego. 'sup EC. Even the wife said today, "Good day for a trip to an outdoor range."

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 06:52 PM (4Mv1T)

90 "Zumwalt's son, Zumwalt III bought my granddad's house in Fayetteville in the 70's, I think it was. He was a swiftboat commander and died of cancer. Agent Orange."

Would that this had instead happened to a certain other Swift boat commander.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 02, 2013 06:54 PM (gqT4g)

91 Between this, the LCS, the F-35, and Obama's zampolits firing everyone in the services who doesn't conform to their increasingly insane identity-politics dictates, the country had better hope it doesn't get in any truly serious wars any time in the next twenty years. Because it'll lose. Posted by: torquewrench at November 02, 2013 10:51 PM (gqT4g) Won't be no trouble, round-eye, as long as you stay out of our Sphere of Influence. Just keep allowing us to service your debt; US dollars are buying us a blue-water Navy and allowing us to compromise and copy your weapons designs. (Oh, and for future reference, that Sphere of Influence includes Taiwan).

Posted by: Chi-Coms at November 02, 2013 06:55 PM (ZyqBH)

92 That Steve Cohen in Tennesee, he's a bit of dick, isn't he? And now, as I watch the Florida St - Miami game, a Heatlhcare.gov commercial comes on. It's all pretty wonderful, according to that guy.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 02, 2013 06:55 PM (v6hyJ)

93 NDH, I didnÂ’t read your earlier posts because today was probably the last nice day this year and I spent most of it outside in my rose garden. It was sunny and 65 degrees. I might stop giving to WW because I need a new roof. The money I give them each month will help with the cost. My older brother told me one day a few weeks ago when I was all dressed & ready to go out to my garden. This time of the year I try not to waste any time in the house because daylight is so scarce. Tomorrow will be worse but IÂ’m giving up the roses for winter. Some very nice man is sending me three white rose plants that you canÂ’t buy except on a rootstock that wonÂ’t survive in MA. If some die, I have at least three new ones. I usually order by now, but IÂ’m waiting because I want the roof estimate.

Posted by: CarolT at November 02, 2013 06:56 PM (z4WKX)

94 'sup EC. Even the wife said today, "Good day for a trip to an outdoor range."


I happened to be browsing and saw something about "and then go get an Octoberfest and nachos with bbq on them".  Hey!!!  That's what we did!!!


The wife has pretty much drawn her red line with respect to moar toys.  I can't buy anymore unless she agrees too.  But I can accessorize for the ones I already have! 

Did you go to the range?

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 06:56 PM (doBIb)

95 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 02, 2013 10:44 PM (kdS6q) I saw one snooping around the parents' neighbors' pheasant coop this morning. Had a shot lined up with the Garand but decided to pass because other idiot neighbors would likely freak out at the sound of gunfire and call the cops. I think I need a .17 HMR for such situations, as he was too far out to shoot with a .22.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 02, 2013 06:56 PM (zxUSv)

96 That's in the Atlantic. In a healthy Pacific typhoon? Um, yeah. Go read the histories of Typhoon Cobra in 1944. The crew will be leaving the service, all right, but not in a way conducive to future civilian employment. Contemplate what happened to the crews of the _Monaghan_, the _Spence_ or the _Hull_. **** Off to do some research now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 06:57 PM (DmNpO)

97 The H2 is like the HQ with working links . ...sigh....... We used to have nice things ..... sigh. ...

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 02, 2013 06:57 PM (XWw96)

98 This whole urban wildlife thing is getting just a little too survival of the fittest around here for my taste. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 02, 2013 10:44 PM (kdS6q) A woman in a rural area near me went to a commission meeting to complain that a coyote got her yorkie. She would let the little dog out alone at night to do it's business and one night it disappeared. She was sure it was a coyote that got it, although she hadn't seen what happened. So the commissioners told her that she broke the leash laws and that they liked coyotes because they rid the roads of roadkill. She was not happy about their response, but then anyone dumb enough to let a tiny dog out alone at night in a rural area is going to end up unhappy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 02, 2013 06:57 PM (AALPt)

99 Would that this had instead happened to a certain other Swift boat commander. Posted by: torquewrench --------------------------- And sadly, young Zumwalt IV was a very sick fella. Sad legacy.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 06:57 PM (4Mv1T)

100 I don't live in a rural area. I miss the coyote though because he used to keep the rabbits in check.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 06:59 PM (RZ8pf)

101 Here are some photos of a restored 1929 Ford Trimotor. That plane has a real bathroom. Scroll down. http://www.ipass.net/ginkgo/N9612home.html The foot pedal on the toilet does exactly what you think it does. I remember a similar one from a train when I was a kid.

Posted by: rickl at November 02, 2013 06:59 PM (sdi6R)

102
   +1 for a car thread.  I will talk your ears off.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 02, 2013 06:59 PM (SAMxH)

103 Note to self: make sure plane is 5gal pail

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 06:59 PM (4tK7k)

104 On an upbeat note , hunting season is here .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 02, 2013 06:59 PM (XWw96)

105 I happened to be browsing and saw something about "and then go get an Octoberfest and nachos with bbq on them". Hey!!! That's what we did!!! Did you go to the range? Posted by: EC ----------------------------- I did not. I might tomorrow though. I swapped barrels on a shotgun, and fondled two of the .45's, then back in the safe, and that was it. Jake has got me jazzed about shooting .22LR at some distance.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:00 PM (4Mv1T)

106 Did you know the fastest production car in America didn't have a V8?

The Buick Grand National with the turbocharged 3.8 V6 was the fastest in 87 and 88, but Pontiac produced a Firebird in 1989 for the Indy pace car for that year's Indy 500

Pontiac made the very limited production Firebird TTA with a 3.8 turbo V6 that produced 300 hp and did a 4.6 second 0-60 and a 12.5 quarter mile. Top end was 162 mph

6 convertibles were made, 40 hardtops, the rest were t-tops.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 07:00 PM (aTXUx)

107 OH, and PLUS ONE for a car thread.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:01 PM (4Mv1T)

108 Any political flunky that "likes" coyotes is nutz. They will attack live stock next. A pack can certainly bring down a full grown cow. In a "rural" area, I'm sure that farmers would appreciate that enlightened attitude about coyotes cleaning up the road kill. That's a new one to me, because I didn't think that coyotes would eat carrion.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 02, 2013 07:01 PM (v6hyJ)

109 how about a 'motor-vehicle thread' and include motor cycles....

Posted by: vomit launch at November 02, 2013 07:01 PM (ShNqq)

110 The H2 is like the HQ with working links. No, it's more like a Peoples' Front of Judea vs. the Judean Peoples' Front... fcukin' Romans...

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 07:01 PM (JMmQ9)

111 I could tell they wanted us to feel that he'd had a moral awakening but the way the movie was structured it sure seemed the other way making the ending deeply pessimistic and ironic.


When I first read the ending, I was like "OMG, here we go with the touchy feely crap..."  Contrast this with how Starship Troopers was done.  Rico vs Ender.  Or rather, Carl vs Ender for a more apt comparison.

Sorry, if aliens almost wipe out your planet and species, there's no way you're going to try and have peaceful relations ever again.  DMD their home planet and be done with them.  I think if Ender were somehow a lot older and had experienced the bug attack on Earth himself, he wouldn't be feeling sorry for any bug at all.  Since he was a child and had no memories of the attacks (just the newsreel footage), he had no way to know firsthand just how thin the ice was that human beings were on.

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:01 PM (doBIb)

112 And now, as I watch the Florida St - Miami game, a Heatlhcare.gov commercial comes on. It's all pretty wonderful, according to that guy. Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 02, 2013 10:55 PM (v6hyJ) If they had any actual brains they'd stop running the ads until they get the mess working. Gawd they're dumb.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 02, 2013 07:01 PM (AALPt)

113 I'm laughing my ass off now trying to picture that destroyer moving at Mach-6.

 

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 10:43 PM (DmNpO)

 

Hahahahahaha.  Thought you meant the SR-72.  The  Zumwalt can make .5 past lightspeed.  She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid.   The Navy  made a lot of special modifications.  It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 02, 2013 07:01 PM (BAS5M)

114 anyone dumb enough to let a tiny dog out alone at night in a rural area is going to end up unhappy

Ohhh...free appetizers. Sweet.

Posted by: The Coyotes at November 02, 2013 07:02 PM (4tK7k)

115 I had four cars with the GM 3.8. It was a bulletproof engine till they put that friggin' plastic intake manifold on it in '97.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:02 PM (4Mv1T)

116 Thank you EC I thought I was the only person who was annoyed with ended in regard to his attitude about the buggers.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 07:03 PM (RZ8pf)

117 30 Evening fappers! Cougars birthday weekend continues to be awesome. Great dinner tonight, like one of the best ever. Then met a buddy for roll-the-dice-for-shots at a bar nearby. Really a cool idea: five bucks, roll a twenty-sided die, your number corresponds with the shot you get, everything from rail tequila to Crown Black. I got a Bulleit bourbon, Apple Pucker and Knob Creek Maple. Posted by: DC in Towson at November 02, 2013 10:34 PM (eQJwb) Heh heh. Knob. Got your email. Much obliged.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 02, 2013 07:03 PM (N/cFh)

118 Don't forget to set your clocks back an hour before you hit the rack as daylight savings ends tomorrow. Cause Heaven forbid you should show up an hour early for worship services.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at November 02, 2013 07:03 PM (DoZD+)

119 Daylight redistribution....you know they're scheming right now.

Posted by: BignJames at November 02, 2013 07:04 PM (j7iSn)

120 14,500 tons for DDG-1000.  That is 900 tons heavier than a WWII Baltimore class heavy cruiser.

Torquewrench, if you are going to mention those tin-cans that sank during the typhoon a little more information is needed.   For example USS Monoghan, Farragut class, had pumped out sea water in anticipation of refueling when the typhoon caught up with the ship.  In such a top heavy condition, she capsized in the heavy seas and only six survivors were found.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 07:04 PM (uVVG+)

121 and maybe chainsaws too in the 'motor thread' Stihl makes a 91cc chainsaw with a 30 inch bar that I'd really like to put in my garage

Posted by: vomit launch at November 02, 2013 07:05 PM (ShNqq)

122 @  115

   Yes indeed, the famous warping, gets porous at the egr port plastic piece of shut.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 02, 2013 07:05 PM (SAMxH)

123 I did not. I might tomorrow though. I swapped barrels on a shotgun, and fondled two of the .45's, then back in the safe, and that was it.

Jake has got me jazzed about shooting .22LR at some distance.


I have a Mossberg 702 that I bought a while ago.  I wonder how far I could hit something with that.  Also, I'm thinking of getting a .22LR pistol as a cheap range toy.  Maybe a Ruger SR22 or one of those 1911-22 clones.


Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:05 PM (doBIb)

124 That should have been ender not ended.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 07:05 PM (RZ8pf)

125 plastic intake manifold

(O)(O)

How could you possibly torque it down properly and keep it sealed?   Plastic be bendy'n shit.  Even high temp stuff like Delrin would suck ass in that application.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 07:05 PM (4tK7k)

126 I kinda like saying that .. if you shoot your wife and marry again that you are still married .. right ?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 02, 2013 07:06 PM (e8kgV)

127 Good Night y'all. 

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at November 02, 2013 07:06 PM (MnSla)

128 OMG, PBS is showing a concert with many bands from the 60s. Yoko Ono is really terrible. How did she ever get Lennon to let her have a band?

Posted by: Bill R. at November 02, 2013 07:07 PM (QnRSM)

129 Thank you EC I thought I was the only person who was annoyed with ended in regard to his attitude about the buggers.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 11:03 PM (RZ8pf)



It was just "ugghhh, not this crap please!"


Liberals....

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:07 PM (doBIb)

130 Bill R. Yoko Ono is an evil gaki who feeds on musical talent.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 07:08 PM (uVVG+)

131 OMG, PBS is showing a concert with many bands from the 60s. Yoko Ono is really terrible. How did she ever get Lennon to let her have a band?


Well for one thing, girls have something that boys want....

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:08 PM (doBIb)

132 How could you possibly torque it down properly and keep it sealed? Plastic be bendy'n shit. Even high temp stuff like Delrin would suck ass in that application. Posted by: Purp It's GM. Professional grade engineering. That's what the commercials say. I have a 2001 Audi, and a lot of the parts under the hood are aluminum. Aluminum warps a little too, like the valve covers. Replacing the complicated valve cover gaskets on those suckers is hard enough , then the covers are slightly warped.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 02, 2013 07:09 PM (v6hyJ)

133 Malodrax still wins: http://im gur.com/a/EpQCX [remove space to de-pixify]

First And Last And Always
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5NbGlZtaGw

evenin', rons

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 07:09 PM (d7tB2)

134 Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 11:01 PM (doBIb) Yeah, I felt the same. If someone tries their best to murder you and your family and fails, then says well I failed let's just let bygones be bygones.... Uh..no. You don't get that. So, Ender's "moral awakening" made no real sense. SPOILER- and as directly presented in the movie it was the result of the Queen's influence in confusing the love Ender felt for his sister transferred to the Queen herself END OF SPOILER

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 02, 2013 07:09 PM (CRY7r)

135 Bill, is it the Rolling Stones Circus?

Yeah, her performance there was legendarily bad.

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 07:09 PM (E7Iyp)

136 OMG, PBS is showing a concert with many bands from the 60s. Yoko Ono is really terrible. How did she ever get Lennon to let her have a band? Posted by: Bill R. at November 02, 2013 11:07 PM (QnRSM) "Please call and make a donation to your local PBS station so we can continue to show you these programs that we only run during pledge drives."

Posted by: Vendette at November 02, 2013 07:09 PM (EWSzw)

137 How could you possibly torque it down properly and keep it sealed? Plastic be bendy'n shit. Even high temp stuff like Delrin would suck ass in that application. Posted by: Purp ---------------------------- GM decided to put some kind of synthetic crap-ola intake manifold on that wonderful big 6 and it caused all kinds of problems. I used to get 35MPH on the highway in my Park Avenues and Olds 98s with the family and luggage, and then they screwed it up.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:09 PM (4Mv1T)

138 I have a Mossberg 702 that I bought a while ago. I wonder how far I could hit something with that. Also, I'm thinking of getting a .22LR pistol as a cheap range toy. Maybe a Ruger SR22 or one of those 1911-22 clones. Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 11:05 PM How do you like the Mossberg 702? I'm looking for a Mossberg 715t (it's the Model 702 with all the "scary black rifle" shit pre-installed)

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 07:09 PM (JMmQ9)

139 Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 11:05 PM (doBIb how far is that?

Posted by: vomit launch at November 02, 2013 07:09 PM (ShNqq)

140 It was just "ugghhh, not this crap please!" Liberals.... Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 11:07 PM (doBIb) They always have to get something in. I was going to see this but not if there is more liberal bullshit to wade through.

Posted by: NWConservative at November 02, 2013 07:09 PM (5oKve)

141 fcukin' Romans...

Pone in culum meum tuos labelli

Posted by: adams gladius porn at November 02, 2013 07:10 PM (R6JT1)

142 But I didn't think Orson Scott card was a liberal. I am reading speaker for the dead with my son right now. I hope it has a more surprising outcome then I am expecting.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 07:10 PM (RZ8pf)

143 Anyone up for a little leftist propaganda this evening?

Posted by: PolitiFalse at November 02, 2013 07:10 PM (Dwehj)

144 Well OSU  Cowboys   came to Lubbock and steer roped the    Red Raiders 52 - 34.  Dang.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 02, 2013 07:10 PM (BAS5M)

145 Aye, I remember when Captain Kirk was but a wee Ensign on the mighty warship Fife!

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at November 02, 2013 07:11 PM (ylG8S)

146 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 02, 2013 10:44 PM (23Kgq) Fenelon Spoke, IÂ’m sure TFG doesnÂ’t know any part of the bible. The Rules for Radicals is the only book he knows. I was shocked when he won in 2008, I couldnÂ’t believe no one saw what a POS, phony and liar he was and I didnÂ’t pay any attention to him!

Posted by: CarolT at November 02, 2013 07:11 PM (z4WKX)

147 AtC @ 76 - Go on ...

Posted by: Butch at November 02, 2013 07:12 PM (EV3Uf)

148 French riot police fired tear gas at thousands of demonstrators in north-west France on Saturday, after some protesters hurled stones and iron bars at them in a rally against a controversial green tax and layoffs. Three demonstrators were arrested while four protesters and a police officer were injured after scuffles broke out during the protest on Saturday afternoon. Protest organisers said 30,000 people, including hauliers, fishermen and food industry workers, had gathered in the town of Quimper in Brittany to demonstrate against an environmental tax on trucks and layoffs, even though the government had earlier in the week suspended the application of the so-called ecotax. Authorities estimate that 15,000 people joined in the protest.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 02, 2013 07:12 PM (e8kgV)

149 I have a Mossberg 702 that I bought a while ago. I wonder how far I could hit something with that. Also, I'm thinking of getting a .22LR pistol as a cheap range toy. Maybe a Ruger SR22 or one of those 1911-22 clones. Posted by: EC ------------------------------- Get a scope for that little 702 and we can see how far we can shoot.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:13 PM (4Mv1T)

150 Hello, Beloved Horde!

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 07:14 PM (ZrNcx)

151 How do you like the Mossberg 702? I'm looking for a Mossberg 715t (it's the Model 702 with all the "scary black rifle" shit pre-installed)

It's ok.  There are better .22 rifles out there, but this one was cheap and easy to use.  Shoots well enough.  I just never tested it to see how far I could shoot it or how accurate it was at distance.

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:14 PM (doBIb)

152 What the heck is H2 and how does one find it?

Posted by: Old Dog at November 02, 2013 07:14 PM (tQYJH)

153 "And sadly, young Zumwalt IV was a very sick fella. Sad legacy."

Agent Orange was weird stuff.

One VN vet I used to know was in absolutely perfect health for his age. Didn't even look his age. I hadn't believed it when he first said he had been in Vietnam. I said, "Good thing you didn't get dosed with any of that Agent Orange stuff," this being the era when there were gaudy television exposes of the matter.

He said, "Dosed with it? I used to SWIM in that shit."

He filled the defoliant tanks on the sprayer planes. No particular precautions or protective equipment. Showed me photos. Working shirtless, as you might imagine of someone doing heavy labor in the local heat and humidity.

I suspect that, as with certain other chemical toxins, individual genetic susceptibilities played a big role in whether or not people became ill from exposure.

I'd love to know if he maintained his health into later life, but unfortunately he and I moved at about the same time, got distracted and lost touch. Some time I am going to have to search for his name, see if I can run down his later history.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 02, 2013 07:14 PM (gqT4g)

154 Here's hoping the French can retake their country from the Fabian socialists.

we're all in this together

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 07:15 PM (d7tB2)

155 hai Mindy

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 07:15 PM (d7tB2)

156 That's in the Atlantic. In a healthy Pacific typhoon? Um, yeah. Go read the histories of Typhoon Cobra in 1944. The crew will be leaving the service, all right, but not in a way conducive to future civilian employment. Contemplate what happened to the crews of the _Monaghan_, the _Spence_ or the _Hull_. *** I just read the Wiki page on Typhoon Cobra. What a friggin nightmare! And then the admiral followed that act by sailing into yet another typhoon. Fearless or really, really crazy?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 07:15 PM (DmNpO)

157
Get a scope for that little 702 and we can see how far we can shoot.


It has one!  A cheap one.  I have no idea if the stepson zeroed it or not.

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:15 PM (doBIb)

158
   The biggest problem with the plastic manifold was at the egr port--where hot exhaust gas was introduce3d into the plenum.

   A metal piece was used to shield the opening, but after some miles they would deteriorate from the heat.

   Consequently, since there was a water passage under the port, antifreeze would mix with the oil.  Plus the engine would run very poorly on the fuel/coolant mix.

  I saw several extreme cases where the engine hydrolocked. 

  Some really happy owners.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 02, 2013 07:16 PM (SAMxH)

159 Old Dog , google Big Boob Friday .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 02, 2013 07:16 PM (XWw96)

160 EC- I just have a bone stock Ruger 10/22 with a Simmons 3-9 scope. We should do likewise to your 702, although the way you shot that SCAR with no magnification at 200 yards, I am sure i would lose a beer bet at Aviators.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:16 PM (4Mv1T)

161 have a Mossberg 702 that I bought a while ago. I wonder how far I could hit something with that. Also, I'm thinking of getting a .22LR pistol as a cheap range toy. Maybe a Ruger SR22 or one of those 1911-22 clones. Posted by: EC If you're looking for a "cheap range toy" in .22LR; look at the Phoenix Arms HP22.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 07:16 PM (JMmQ9)

162 IÂ’m sure TFG doesnÂ’t know any part of the bible.

Au contraire! I know all the parts that we on the left deliberately bastardize in justifying confiscating all of your shit.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at November 02, 2013 07:16 PM (Dwehj)

163

2005 Ford Mustang engines have a plastic part buried deep under a ton  of shit that connects the cooling system to the motor.

 

Great money saving idea, you engineers.  Put a $100  plastic part   that cracks with age and heat  under  $1200-worth-of-labor-to-remove-parts.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 02, 2013 07:17 PM (BAS5M)

164 Wait. I'm looking at the photos of the restored Ford Trimotor I linked earlier. http://www.ipass.net/ginkgo/N9612home.html It looks like it has a fucking stick shift in the cockpit. WTH is that for?

Posted by: rickl at November 02, 2013 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

165 What the heck is H2 and how does one find it?


It's the other blog that morons go to.  Basically, it too is a smart military blog, except for the smart and military part.  It's got a whole lot more bewbs though to make up for it.


Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:17 PM (doBIb)

166 If Batman and Superman teamed up Superman would hate Batman for being way cooler.

Posted by: Baby Unguilito at November 02, 2013 07:17 PM (fsLdt)

167 It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs. **** Aaaaannnd you lost me!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 07:18 PM (DmNpO)

168 3x9 scope on a .22 ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 02, 2013 07:19 PM (XWw96)

169 Regarding the DDG-1000, it's a cruiser in all but name. 6" guns, longer than some battleships, and will likely operate independently of a regular battle group = cruiser. I would say it fits the definition of a cruiser much more than the Ticonderoga- class ships do. From what I've read, those 2 6" guns can lay down fire equivalent to a battery of 6 towed 155mm howitzers, with greater range and accuracy.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 02, 2013 07:19 PM (C9bS2)

170 Consequently, since there was a water passage under the port, antifreeze would mix with the oil. Plus the engine would run very poorly on the fuel/coolant mix. I saw several extreme cases where the engine hydrolocked. Some really happy owners. Posted by: irongrampa ------------------------------ Yes indeed. I worked for a GM dealership at that time between careers and that was a huge disappointment, since I was such a huge fan of that engine. A supercharged 3800 in a Regal would haul arse.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:19 PM (4Mv1T)

171 I have a 2001 Audi, and a lot of the parts under the hood are aluminum.

*sigh*, weight reduction taken to extremes.

That caused VW serious suspension problems on the 2000'ish Passats. The A6's would have been similarly afflicted being mechanically identical.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 07:19 PM (4tK7k)

172 I know they we really don’t do *Heavy* politics here, but does anyone have an opinion on why the Obama administration would “out” Israel as doing the strike on the Russian missile shipment to Syria?
Israel had “plausible deniability” due to the rebellion, but Obama blew it.
What was to be gained?
Is the JEF trying to stoke a “Hot War” between Syria and Israel?
Israel would pound them into the dust, with “Many” civilian casualties.
Is that what Obama wants?
Why?
The “Community Organizer” sucks ass as far as foreign policy…
Yeah, I live at H2, so what?

Posted by: ChrisP at November 02, 2013 07:19 PM (BpTC0)

173 EC- I just have a bone stock Ruger 10/22 with a Simmons 3-9 scope. We should do likewise to your 702, although the way you shot that SCAR with no magnification at 200 yards, I am sure i would lose a beer bet at Aviators.

Next time!  I've got a ton of .22LR ammo I need to burn through.

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:19 PM (doBIb)

174 Hi, Boulder Toilet Hobo! Have you heard? We're working on a Colorado Morondezvous, maybe Nov. 15 or 16. Please say you can come!

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 07:19 PM (ZrNcx)

175

Aaaaannnd you lost me!

 

 

Sorry.  It was a long time ago  in a galaxy far, far away . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 02, 2013 07:20 PM (BAS5M)

176 I did too. If I wasn't busy most of the afternoon and had seen it earlier, I would have been all over that threadI've suggested a weekend car thread to Ace, he liked the idea but never got back to me on itAnyone who wants a regular Weekend Car Thread, say +1 with your commentI'll volunteer to write them up if Ace says yes *** We could use a regular Saturday theme post.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 07:20 PM (DmNpO)

177 57 What? Please those who have read the book and seen the movie please tell me they didn't change the outcome? Tell me in the broadest possible terms so no spoilers. I thought Orson Scott Card was responsible for the script. He wouldn't screw it up, would he?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 10:42 PM (RZ8pf)


It hit all the significant plot points of the book. Major subplot involving siblings left out (understandably). The end is the same, but they didn't convey Ender's feelings the same way during the climax as the book. It felt rushed and stilted because they had to try to fit all the changes Ender went through without actually showing enough to have a real sense of it

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at November 02, 2013 07:20 PM (ylG8S)

178 Aaaaannnd you lost me!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 11:18 PM (DmNpO)



It's what Han Solo told Luke when they first meet in that cantina.



Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:21 PM (doBIb)

179 3x9 scope on a .22 ? Posted by: Bill D. ---------------------------------------- Simmons 22 Mag scope made expressly for .22 rifles. Why not? Jake was shooting his in a match at 500 yards, although I expect he was using better glass, and rifle.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:21 PM (4Mv1T)

180 152 What the heck is H2 and how does one find it? It's hydrogen gas, silly - the most abundant element in the universe (aside from stupidity). Oh, that's not really what you meant, right?

Posted by: Thrawn at November 02, 2013 07:21 PM (ZyqBH)

181 I'm flattered, Mindy, but I have stuff I gotta do that weekend... like turning 40

so parents and at least one sibling + sis in law are involved

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 07:21 PM (d7tB2)

182

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 11:09 PM (E7Iyp)

 

Yeah, it is. I just got home from work, made a sandwich, turned on the TV and that came screeching out at me. Had to change the channel for a few minutes. Stones are on now.

Oh yeah, +1 for the car thread.

Posted by: Bill R. at November 02, 2013 07:22 PM (QnRSM)

183 Leave it to the morons to cite Star Wars and leave me behind.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 07:22 PM (DmNpO)

184 Thanks Bill D.

Posted by: Old Dog at November 02, 2013 07:22 PM (tQYJH)

185 It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs. That shit always cracked me up...a parsec is a unit of distance not time.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 07:22 PM (JMmQ9)

186 >>>Did you go to the range? Not directed to me, but fuck it. I'm getting some recoil therapy tomorrow. Gonna break in the new G22. Haven't shot in almost a year, so ill be lucky to hit paper at 7 yards feet.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 02, 2013 07:23 PM (eQJwb)

187 181 hehhehheh, maybe you would like some extra guests at your birthday party hehhehhehheh

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 07:23 PM (ZrNcx)

188 does anyone have an opinion on why the Obama administration would “out” Israel as doing the strike on the Russian missile shipment to Syria?

TOP. MEN.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 07:23 PM (4tK7k)

189 Twice I have forgotten to say +1 for a Car thread. Sheesh and I am not even drinking.

Posted by: Old Dog at November 02, 2013 07:24 PM (tQYJH)

190 If you're looking for a "cheap range toy" in .22LR; look at the Phoenix Arms HP22.


I was looking at the Walther P22 but I keep reading horror stories.  Same with the Sig Mosquito, which I don't understand.  It's a Sig!  Come on!!!

The Ruger SR22 stacks up very well against other non-match pistols.  I don't want a Browning Buckmark or anything like that.  Something strictly for plinking and teaching my wife or son how to handle pistols without worrying about the recoil too much.

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:24 PM (doBIb)

191 Time for the old folk. Me and older granddaughter are goin squirrel hunting tomorrow.  They'll be part of the 1st game dinner.



         Goodnite, good people.    Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 02, 2013 07:24 PM (SAMxH)

192 "Please call and make a donation to your local PBS station so we can continue to show you these programs that we only run during pledge drives."

Posted by: Vendette at November 02, 2013 11:09 PM (EWSzw)

 

PBS Detroit. Their pledge drives are weekly.

Posted by: Bill R. at November 02, 2013 07:24 PM (QnRSM)

193 That shit always cracked me up...a parsec is a unit of distance not time. Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 11:22 PM (JMmQ9) But this is in a galaxy far, far away.

Posted by: CDR M at November 02, 2013 07:24 PM (OJvfL)

194 171 I have a 2001 Audi, and a lot of the parts under the hood are aluminum.

*sigh*, weight reduction taken to extremes.

That caused VW serious suspension problems on the 2000'ish Passats. The A6's would have been similarly afflicted being mechanically identical.

Posted by: Purp at November 02, 2013 11:19 PM (4tK7k)

All the B5 Series based cars (late-90's A4, A6, Passat) need new front suspensions every 100,000 miles. They have literally 8 balljoints each side (virtual steering geometry design) and they are not replaceable without replacing the entire arms. $1300, if you know the right mechanic.

Why I traded mine in for a Chevy. Audis cost shit-ton of money to maintain.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at November 02, 2013 07:24 PM (ylG8S)

195 http://thehostages.wordpress.com/

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 07:25 PM (4tK7k)

196

Fee Fie Fo Fum  what beanstalk did you fall from?

Hello peeps! Hubby and I just finished watching Major Payne.  I love that movie.  Yes it is silly but it is also fucking hilarious.

Posted by: madamemayhem at November 02, 2013 07:25 PM (S2RnE)

197 Not directed to me, but fuck it. I'm getting some recoil therapy tomorrow. Gonna break in the new G22. Haven't shot in almost a year, so ill be lucky to hit paper at 7 yards feet.


Do it!!!

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 07:25 PM (doBIb)

198 +1 car thread. I could help out! Use my real name, too.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at November 02, 2013 07:25 PM (ylG8S)

199 +1 on a  car thread.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 02, 2013 07:26 PM (BAS5M)

200 Not directed to me, but fuck it. I'm getting some recoil therapy tomorrow. Gonna break in the new G22. Haven't shot in almost a year, so ill be lucky to hit paper at 7 yards feet. Posted by: DC in Towson ------------------------------------- When I got my concealed carry permit, we qualified at 3 yards, 5 yards, and 7 yards. Starting that close had a very positive impact on my groups at 7 yards. Especially when you don't shoot that often, which at that time, I didn't.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:26 PM (4Mv1T)

201 Who was that pedophile who had a cooking show on PBS? It was called "The Frugal Gourmet" or "The Frugal Chef" or something. He had a show on there for a long time, sold cookbooks, the whole 9 yards. Then it came out that he had been doing underage boys.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 02, 2013 07:27 PM (AALPt)

202 172 I know they we really don’t do *Heavy* politics here, but does anyone have an opinion on why the Obama administration would “out” Israel as doing the strike on the Russian missile shipment to Syria? Israel had “plausible deniability” due to the rebellion, but Obama blew it. What was to be gained? Is the JEF trying to stoke a “Hot War” between Syria and Israel? Israel would pound them into the dust, with “Many” civilian casualties. Is that what Obama wants? Why? The “Community Organizer” sucks ass as far as foreign policy… Yeah, I live at H2, so what? Posted by: ChrisP at November 02, 2013 11:19 PM (BpTC0) Good question. Is it just spite, or does Obama and his little cabal want to use this situation to try to put Israeli military confidence down a few notches? It could also be incompetence. But if Obama really is trying to cause some kind of incident between Syria and Israel, it could quickly careen out of control, especially since Russia needs Syria as a reliable ME ally.

Posted by: Thrawn at November 02, 2013 07:27 PM (ZyqBH)

203 Drunk. anyone know what channel  me tv is on dish?  shit

Posted by: Infidel at November 02, 2013 07:27 PM (9AgaZ)

204 that took a long time to type

Posted by: Infidel at November 02, 2013 07:28 PM (9AgaZ)

205 Who was that pedophile who had a cooking show on PBS?

They all are. But I think you're talking about Elmo.

Posted by: adams HI BROw CULTure porn at November 02, 2013 07:28 PM (R6JT1)

206 My iPad forgot my name here & then put in my full last name. I don't know what it's doing. At least infixed it by continually earring last name. J.J. Sexton wrote in early morning thread he didn't type those words. I find iPad & iPhone change words to something completely different since IOS upgrade & updates. What is H2?

Posted by: Carol T at November 02, 2013 07:29 PM (z4WKX)

207

I know they we really donÂ’t do *Heavy* politics here, but does anyone
have an opinion on why the Obama administration would “out” Israel as
doing the strike on the Russian missile shipment to Syria?

 

 

Obama is a 7th grade girl in many respect.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 02, 2013 07:29 PM (BAS5M)

208 hey rumblings on the information superhyway have y'all making mention of me

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 07:29 PM (t9Vdf)

209 fuck new hash weird

Posted by: Infidel at November 02, 2013 07:29 PM (9AgaZ)

210 141 fcukin' Romans...

Pone in culum meum tuos labelli

Lavo meum sub ubi cum Lux.

Posted by: Hari "Seneca" Seldon at November 02, 2013 07:30 PM (ejwW4)

211 Carol, see purp's post at #196.

Posted by: CDR M at November 02, 2013 07:30 PM (OJvfL)

212 +1 for the Car Thread. Every REAL AMERICAN loves cars (in general), although we may hate certain cars we have owned. What kind of car has Barack Obama ever owned? And yes, my old Audi A6 Avant costs a lot to maintain. It cost me $730 to have the alternator changed two weeks ago. Because it is a major mechanical doing to change the alternator.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 02, 2013 07:31 PM (v6hyJ)

213 >>>I was looking at the Walther P22 but I keep reading horror stories. I've got one. I love it. It's a tack driver, and the grip angle mimics that of a glock. Only thing I don't like is that the mag release is on the trigger guard and seems like a ND waiting to happen.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 02, 2013 07:31 PM (eQJwb)

214 I miss the coyote though because he used to keep the rabbits in check. My kitten-sized cat takes on that duty around here. Eats 'em too - down to belly level. Mmmm, brains!

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at November 02, 2013 07:32 PM (oIFBM)

215 Geeze, Purp,
Did you have to do that, really?

Posted by: ChrisP at November 02, 2013 07:32 PM (BpTC0)

216 I have a 2001 Audi, and a lot of the parts under the hood are aluminum. *sigh*, weight reduction taken to extremes. That caused VW serious suspension problems on the 2000'ish Passats. The A6's would have been similarly afflicted being mechanically identical. Posted by: Purp at November 02, 2013 11:19 PM The only difference between an Audi and a Volkswagen is about 20 pounds of NVH* materials. Dammit! Now you've got me talking Stoopid Business™ shit. *NVH = Noise, Vibration, and Harshness...stuffing wads of recycled (mostly cotton, mostly) into nooks and crannies to reduce road noise.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 07:32 PM (JMmQ9)

217 "All the B5 Series based cars (late-90's A4, A6, Passat) need new front suspensions every 100,000 miles. They have literally 8 balljoints each side (virtual steering geometry design) and they are not replaceable without replacing the entire arms."

I've seen this nonreplaceable balljoint business on more and more cars, not just VW/Audi cars.

My head. It asplode.

Absolutely no reason for that other than arrogant, callous planned obsolescence. Perfectly possible to make just the balljoint sections themselves field-serviceable.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 02, 2013 07:32 PM (gqT4g)

218

I propose an Epic Weddings I Have Attended thread because I have a doozie to share.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 02, 2013 07:32 PM (qRD8F)

219 My 98' Jetta III has only one serious epidemic disease that I need to address at some point...the window regulators.

The only real annoyance with the AHU diesel is the 60k timing belt interval, but now that I've got all the tools to do it, its not expensive anymore.  Last time I swapped the lame factory plastic impeller water pump for a superior quality aftermarket one with a metal impeller.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 07:33 PM (4tK7k)

220 rumblings on the information superhyway have y'all making mention of me Posted by: jake ------------------------------ It was I. We discussed your .22LR exploits.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:33 PM (4Mv1T)

221 Took the son hunting today . He's twelve . We saw a pile of deer today ( all does , and they were legal to shoot , did not ), trying to teach him patience is truly a virtue .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 02, 2013 07:33 PM (XWw96)

222 I just read the Wiki page on Typhoon Cobra. What a friggin nightmare! And then the admiral followed that act by sailing into yet another typhoon. Fearless or really, really crazy? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 11:15 PM (DmNpO) IIRC, that was one of several Halsey/McCain disasters (the first being Halsey's decision to take every fucking ship he had in pursuit of a a few IJN carriers that didn't have enough planes to sink a floating turd, leaving San Bernadino Strait and the invasion of Leyte exposed) that should have resulted in Halsey spending the rest of the war polishing Nimitz's shoes and been replaced by Thomas Kincaid or Clifton Spraugue, whose ships paid the price for Halsey's vainglorious folly.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 02, 2013 07:34 PM (C9bS2)

223 H2 = The Hostages A lot of cross connecting commenters between AoS and The Hostages. It made one commenter here go mad a few years ago (the Chevy SUV) because he thought the smart Connecticut commenters at H2 were mocking all the Morons at AoS. Whatever.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 02, 2013 07:34 PM (v6hyJ)

224 46 chev pu with double clutch and foot starter.  lol.

Posted by: Infidel at November 02, 2013 07:35 PM (9AgaZ)

225 And Florida St. spanks the 'Canes. The 'Noles are pretty good. May give the Tide a run for their money if they play each other in the BCS Title game.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 02, 2013 07:35 PM (v6hyJ)

226 A supercharged 3800 in a Regal would haul arse. Posted by: Tobacco Road
--------------------

Pretty sure there were some folk who made that transplant in Fiero's. Very  quick as I recall..., like 1/4's in the mid-high 10's.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 07:36 PM (aDwsi)

227 Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 11:33 PM (4Mv1T) howdy TR I kind of skimmed up thread. for shooting .22 far, the rifle is important but the scope is more important. The scope adjustments have to be repeatable

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 07:36 PM (t9Vdf)

228 Speaking of Glock grip angles. I had a full size G21SF, and traded it for a G30SF. Which. I Love. And shoot better than my tried and true Colt 1911. As for the Glocks. Both .45ACP, and otherwise the same pistols, except for barrel length, and grip length, right? I hold them completely different. What's wrong with me?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:37 PM (4Mv1T)

229 Apparently the first to go, SPENCE capsized after her rudder jammed full right shortly after 1100.
...
HULL went down during the noon hour. The wind had driven her over on her starboard side until her inclinometer went "out of sight." A sudden gust forced her beyond the point of recovery; a hill of water avalanched across her deck; she rolled over and sank.
...
Water tender McCrane, MONOGHAN, on the loss of the ship. "... the ship would take about a 70 degree roll to starboard ... We must have taken seven or eight rolls to starboard before she went over on her side..."
...
In rescuing the survivors of HULL and SPENCE, the TABERER men risked their own lives in more ways than one. At one point the ship, struggling to make 10 knots, was caught in a deep valley of a trough, and forced over on her beam in a roll of 72 degrees.

pg 377-380.  Tin Cans by Theodore Roscoe.  Bantam Books. February 1960.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 07:38 PM (uVVG+)

230 Pretty sure there were some folk who made that transplant in Fiero's. Very quick as I recall..., like 1/4's in the mid-high 10's. Posted by: Mike Hammer ----------------------- That would indeed be a poor man's mid-engine supercar.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:38 PM (4Mv1T)

231 Oh, and UNC walked on NC State today..., just saying.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 07:38 PM (aDwsi)

232 Graham Kerr. They were teenage boys I believe. From Tacoma. Met him at a wedding back in college.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 07:38 PM (RZ8pf)

233 >>>What's wrong with me? Seeing as how you're a regular here, and I am not a licensed therapist, I'm not qualified to answer that.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 02, 2013 07:39 PM (eQJwb)

234 Speaking of airplane stories. Was about 14 on a flight from LA to SD. A 20 minute flight, and back in the day was about $20. Got on the plane having to take a piss, not knowing the seatbelt light never would go out. By the end of the flight was going to jump up and get to the bathroom. Stood up and the waitress told me SIT DOWN BITCH! (not exactly those words). So I waited until the seatbelt light went out. By that time the aisle was full of retards. So I kneeled down, pretending to get into my carry on bag, and pissed on the floor.

Posted by: UWP at November 02, 2013 07:39 PM (fdXMW)

235 Thank you CDR M. I watched Monty Python video, man with three checks almost made me choke on a glass of water, I decided to have a glass of wine & relax. I've been up since 4 am. Ever since my brother has been sick I wake up then. During summer it was okay, I would take pain pills & get up & have a little iced coffee until they kicked in & go outside before work & tend to roses. I'm going to have to break that habit, if I can. Nothing to do in garden this time of year early, and I try not to do anything to wake my up my older brother who lives downstairs.

Posted by: Carol T at November 02, 2013 07:40 PM (z4WKX)

236 Thank you EC I thought I was the only person who was annoyed with ended in regard to his attitude about the buggers. When my son read the book a few years back, he told me me liked the whole book - except the ending. Reminded me of the Cylon love on the new BSG, which I found profoundly annoying. Still, I'm reluctant to label OSC 'liberal' because his book didn't wholeheartedly embrace genociding one's racial enemies ... especially when there are continuing calls to boycott him because he supports his religion's stand on gay marriage.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at November 02, 2013 07:40 PM (oIFBM)

237 My Glock 19 has a grip angle apparently designed around isosceles, the 1911's are more Weaver friendly

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 07:40 PM (4tK7k)

238 Very quick as I recall..., like 1/4's in the mid-high 10's. Posted by: Mike Hammer that is fast. I drove a 92 Toyota Paseo and man that was quick

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 07:40 PM (t9Vdf)

239 goodnite and goodbye.

Posted by: Infidel at November 02, 2013 07:41 PM (9AgaZ)

240 Oh, and UNC walked on NC State today..., just saying. Posted by: Mike Hammer ----------------------------------------- I didn't watch it, but... They both suck this year. So I suspect it was like one fat kid smacked another fat kid, and they repeated it for four quarters, and one won.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:41 PM (4Mv1T)

241 The Ruger SR22 stacks up very well against other non-match pistols. I don't want a Browning Buckmark or anything like that. Something strictly for plinking and teaching my wife or son how to handle pistols without worrying about the recoil too much. Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 11:24 PM I'm a huge Ruger fan, you can not go wrong with a Ruger. That said, if you're looking for "a cheap range toy" in .22LR, look at the Phoenix Arms HP22. For less than $200 you can get the pistol, two barrels (the stock 2" and the 5" "Range Kit" barrel), an extra magazine, and a holster.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 07:42 PM (JMmQ9)

242 #172

Their solution for the Middle East is to set the whole region on fire and hope that the supply of crazy is drained off for a few decades if they can get a few million people to kill each other.

Remember, these are the people who put Mao on their Xmas tree.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 02, 2013 07:42 PM (kcfmt)

243 In rescuing the survivors of HULL and SPENCE, the TABERER men risked their own lives in more ways than one. At one point the ship, struggling to make 10 knots, was caught in a deep valley of a trough, and forced over on her beam in a roll of 72 degrees. pg 377-380. Tin Cans by Theodore Roscoe. Bantam Books. February 1960. Posted by: Anna Puma Probably an example of bad seamanship. They should have maneuvered to be beam-on into the wind, not tanking it broadside. My Dad was on an LST in that typhoon, and I think that was the most terrified he was during WWII. It was pretty bad (part of the movie "The Caine Mutiny") . 'Course, he wasn't a combat soldier, he was in the Army Corps of Engineers, and drove all kinds of stuff with wheels.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 02, 2013 07:42 PM (v6hyJ)

244 Hey BCochran, did you go see the B-17 today in Jacksonville?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 07:42 PM (uVVG+)

245 What's wrong with me? Seeing as how you're a regular here, and I am not a licensed therapist, I'm not qualified to answer that. Posted by: DC in Towson ------------------------------------ That makes you uniquely qualified to answer that.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:43 PM (4Mv1T)

246 I haven't visited H2 for a long time but just now dropped in. LMAO at the first post. The gif of the guy doing lawn work and the KK pic are great.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 07:44 PM (DmNpO)

247 I've recounted this before. A late night in Paris with friends. Lots of wine, and the rather poor choice of cabbage-stuffed squab for dinner. Early in the morning, I folded my intestine into a coach seat for the flight to NYC.

Somewhere over Newfoundland, I began praying that the plane would crash. Excruciating  intestinal cramps/gas. I may have blacked out, as I do not recall how the issue resolved itself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 07:44 PM (aDwsi)

248 The Ruger SR22 is a smaller gun, same size as a Bersa .380 or so

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 07:46 PM (t9Vdf)

249 232 Graham Kerr. They were teenage boys I believe. From Tacoma. Met him at a wedding back in college. Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 11:38 PM (RZ8pf) He was gay? I thought he was just British. No this was another guy. I just binged him and his name was Jeff Smith. I had one of his cookbooks.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 02, 2013 07:46 PM (AALPt)

250 Saw this at an AMV contest today. Goes to show you what happens when you take way too much LSD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5ky9iTcw2Q

Posted by: 政治的な帽子~LSD at November 02, 2013 07:46 PM (Vk2pI)

251 Hammer. As my MIL used to tell my boys when they were little, and would let out men sized farts. "Better out that in." she'd always tell them.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:47 PM (4Mv1T)

252 Probably an example of bad seamanship. They should have maneuvered to be beam-on into the wind, not tanking it broadside.

Beam on *would* be broadside to the wind.

You'd ideally be bow into the wind, with the survivors on the lee (downwind) side.

But then, things are rarely ideal.

Posted by: xbradtc at November 02, 2013 07:47 PM (+FFD7)

253 +1 for cars. I can drive, like a man according to my older brother in early 1980's & I consider that a compliment. The last time he was in a car with me driving, he kept telling me to slow down. I was at speed limit.

Posted by: Carol T at November 02, 2013 07:48 PM (z4WKX)

254 Graham Kerr was known as 'The Galloping Gourmet". It wasn't him.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at November 02, 2013 07:48 PM (Usdw3)

255 Cabbage stuffed squab and gas ? Covered by your bronze plan ..... gimme ten grand .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 02, 2013 07:48 PM (XWw96)

256 Then word came in from the TABBERER. The little DE had lost her foremast. Her radio had been knocked out and her radar ruined. But she was very much afloat, and she was bringing with her 55 destroyermen, survivors she had rescued from the typhoon's wrath. ... Recalling the rescues in Admiral Halsey's Story, the leader of the Third Fleet remarked that he expected to learn that Plage was a veteran mariner who had "cut his teeth on a marlinspike." Halsey was overwhelmed to discover Plage was a Reserve Officer at sea for his second cruise - a sailor who had "cut his teeth" in the ROTC at Georgia Tech.

pg. 378 ibid

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 07:49 PM (uVVG+)

257 REMEMBER. We gain an hour tonight, so go grab another adult beverage and get back here pronto.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 07:49 PM (4Mv1T)

258 Y'all. Dave just did the Night Elf from World of Warcraft dance in boxer shorts covered in maple leaves. Then he took them off and did the dance again. Good lord.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 02, 2013 07:50 PM (N/cFh)

259 as I do not recall how the issue resolved itself. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 11:44 PM (aDwsi) I had a gut atttack from Copenhagen to Seattle that was pretty memorable

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 07:50 PM (t9Vdf)

260 The Frugal Gourmet was Jeff Smith

Posted by: JoeyBagels at November 02, 2013 07:51 PM (Usdw3)

261 Then word came in from the TABBERER. The little DE had lost her foremast. Her radio had been knocked out and her radar ruined. But she was very much afloat, and she was bringing with her 55 destroyermen, survivors she had rescued from the typhoon's wrath. ... Recalling the rescues in Admiral Halsey's Story, the leader of the Third Fleet remarked that he expected to learn that Plage was a veteran mariner who had "cut his teeth on a marlinspike." Halsey was overwhelmed to discover Plage was a Reserve Officer at sea for his second cruise - a sailor who had "cut his teeth" in the ROTC at Georgia Tech. *** It's a miracle that they were able to rescue anyone in those conditions. I can only imagine that the odds of crushing a survivor were high.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 07:51 PM (DmNpO)

262 Oh damn you are right. My apologies for slandering graham Kerr. It was Jeff smith the frugal gourmet. Jeez. Really boneheaded of me considering I met him.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 07:51 PM (RZ8pf)

263 True moron fact . There were three blonde haired kids in the original Graham Kerr show intro . I was one of them . Dad was the camera man .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 02, 2013 07:52 PM (XWw96)

264 257 REMEMBER. We gain an hour tonight, so go grab another adult beverage and get back here pronto.Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 11:49 PM (4Mv1T)
Daylight Stupid Time

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 02, 2013 07:52 PM (H0R/1)

265 Fastest you've ever drivin? Me, 135mph (hey, NSA the statute has run, unless intern me, then I'm a liar)

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 07:53 PM (t9Vdf)

266 162' Didn't you intend to sat "present?"

Posted by: Carol T at November 02, 2013 07:53 PM (z4WKX)

267 You'd ideally be bow into the wind, with the survivors on the lee (downwind) side. But then, things are rarely ideal. Posted by: xbradtc Duh, that's right. I thought that was wrong right after I wrote it. Dopie me.......

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at November 02, 2013 07:53 PM (v6hyJ)

268 Can someone delete my slander at 232?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 07:54 PM (RZ8pf)

269 250 Saw this at an AMV contest today. Goes to show you what happens when you take way too much LSD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5ky9iTcw2Q Posted by: 政治的な帽子~LSD at November 02, 2013 11:46 PM (Vk2pI) That was great. I recognize the audio from an actual old film.

Posted by: rickl at November 02, 2013 07:55 PM (sdi6R)

270 REMEMBER. We gain an hour tonight, so go grab another adult beverage and get back here pronto.Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 11:49 PM (4Mv1T) Daylight Stupid Time Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 02, 2013 11:52 PM I'm already in the process of pissing away that hour. Daylight Stupid Time, indeed.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 07:55 PM (JMmQ9)

271

The Frugal Gourmet was Jeff Smith

 

 

Harry Reid's favorite chef.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 07:55 PM (ThG3L)

272 REMEMBER. We gain an hour tonight, so go grab another adult beverage and get back here pronto. Posted by: Tobacco Road
--------------------

I offer again a Pro Tip :
Make good use of the extra hour, as they are going to reclaim it later.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 07:56 PM (aDwsi)

273 +1 car thread.

I'm overhauling my Dads '93 Del Sol. He really likes it, and I fell in love too working on his, so I got my own! (mine has a spoiler and manual trans)

Anyway, its been pretty fun. About half way thru all the mechanical stuff. Then its on to deciding about paint.

Anyone like Red Satin/matte on lil sportsters?

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 07:56 PM (E7Iyp)

274 That toilet story beats the Golden Corral bathroom story where the guy's wife had to go out and buy him clothes so he could leave the stall. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 02, 2013 07:56 PM (k55Fc)

275 When you are 74 years old you don't give a damn whether it is daylight saving time or not. I ignore the clock year round.

Posted by: TOF at November 02, 2013 07:57 PM (PV2IU)

276 Fastest I have driven. 175 in the left lane of the Autobahn!

Posted by: Old Dog at November 02, 2013 07:58 PM (tQYJH)

277 "Lots of wine, and the rather poor choice of cabbage-stuffed squab for dinner. Early in the morning, I folded my intestine into a coach seat for the flight to NYC."

I am ashamed to admit that it took me more years than it ought to have to learn the simple lesson of eating with the flight in mind. You would think that a solid grounding in physics and physiology would have sufficed. It did not.

There was that one time. Before I learned. I tremble to recall it. Late at night prior to the early morning transoceanic departure. The macho burrito grande. With the hottest sauce the joint had. The stuff they keep stowed behind the counter that's not on the menu. And the nine beers.

This was before armed air marshals. I'm sure one of them would have shot me halfway through the flight. Justified self-defense.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 02, 2013 07:58 PM (gqT4g)

278 NDH, how dangerous was it?

Another TABBERER lifesaver, L.A. Purvis, Bos'n's Mate First Class, almost lost his life while struggling in the water with a half-drowned swimmer. Too much slack was left in his line, and a bight caught on the underwater sound dome when the DE rolled. Purvis was dragged under the ship. Realizing what had happened, he wrenched off his kapok jacket, swam under the ship, and came up on the other side. Only his presence of mind and his skill as a swimmer saved him from a fatal keel-hauling.

pg 380 ibid

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 07:58 PM (uVVG+)

279 CJOH , Ottawa , circa 1967 or so .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 02, 2013 07:58 PM (XWw96)

280 I still want to know why the Ford Trimotor had a stick shift. Musta been a bitchin' aeroplane.

Posted by: rickl at November 02, 2013 07:59 PM (sdi6R)

281 http://bit.ly/1bOnOeb

eh

Posted by: The Dude at November 02, 2013 07:59 PM (vJdyz)

282 Obama outed Israel on the Syria thing because Netanyahu not only won't kiss Obama's ass, but actually kicks it.

Posted by: davidt at November 02, 2013 08:00 PM (rkewj)

283 Fastest I have driven. 175 in the left lane of the Autobahn! Posted by: Old Dog at November 02, 2013 11:58 PM (tQYJH) A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-G28iyPtz0

Posted by: Die Treibende Hut at November 02, 2013 08:00 PM (Vk2pI)

284 BC1981, Would you, iff you have Sean Bannion's email address, tell him I went back to Wednesday early morning thread tonight & know he was born here in MA & lives in VA now? I try to stay away from am thread because it makes me later for work, but it is one of my favorites of each day. I usually fall asleep reading or posting to ONT or skip at nights when I work very late . Thank you, Carol

Posted by: Carol T at November 02, 2013 08:00 PM (z4WKX)

285 A good read:
The Good Shepard, by C.S. Forrester
Novel about a Destroyer Captain on transatlantic escort duty during WWII. Hard to put down once you start reading.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:01 PM (aDwsi)

286 *Shepherd

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:01 PM (aDwsi)

287 I still want to know why the Ford Trimotor had a stick shift. So it could get rubber in all four gears, silly.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 08:01 PM (JMmQ9)

288 >>>258 Y'all. Dave just did the Night Elf from World of Warcraft dance in boxer shorts covered in maple leaves. Then he took them off and did the dance again. One statement and one question: kid must be sound asleep. And why the living hell are you here instead of having Naughty Naked FunTime?

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 02, 2013 08:02 PM (eQJwb)

289 I was at a Moron/H2 Meatup in AZ that involved other people, not me, needing a new pair of pants brought into a restroom.

Not gonna name names **cough**PajammaMomma**cough**Cyn**cough** but it was a fun night.

Posted by: xbradtc at November 02, 2013 08:02 PM (+FFD7)

290 I usually fall asleep reading or posting to ONT...

Thank you, Carol Posted by: Carol T
---------

Carol - Explains posts like "ihnd fouj wfuj,nb wej"


Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:03 PM (aDwsi)

291 Another TABBERER lifesaver, L.A. Purvis, Bos'n's Mate First Class, almost lost his life while struggling in the water with a half-drowned swimmer. Too much slack was left in his line, and a bight caught on the underwater sound dome when the DE rolled. Purvis was dragged under the ship. Realizing what had happened, he wrenched off his kapok jacket, swam under the ship, and came up on the other side. Only his presence of mind and his skill as a swimmer saved him from a fatal keel-hauling. *** Jesus. Our soldiers, sailor, airmen and Marines. It's hard to believe that the boys you watch growing up next door can grown up to be such brave men. Just normal men until dealt a great fate.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 08:03 PM (DmNpO)

292 It's the other blog that morons go to. Basically, it too is a smart military blog, except for the smart and military part. It's got a whole lot more bewbs though to make up for it.


Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 11:17 PM

That makes it rather appropriate that it's bookmarked next to my pr0n bookmarks

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 08:04 PM (aTXUx)

293 Carol - Explains posts like "ihnd fouj wfuj,nb wej" Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 03, 2013 12:03 AM (aDwsi) ah, yes, forehead typing. don't know a thing about it

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 08:04 PM (t9Vdf)

294 Note to self: If attending moron-meetup, bring spare clothing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:04 PM (aDwsi)

295 BC1981, Would you, iff you have Sean Bannion's email address, tell him I went back to Wednesday early morning thread tonight & know he was born here in MA & lives in VA now? I try to stay away from am thread because it makes me later for work, but it is one of my favorites of each day. I usually fall asleep reading or posting to ONT or skip at nights when I work very late . Thank you, Carol Posted by: Carol T at November 03, 2013 12:00 AM (z4WKX) If Cochran doesn't respond in the next little while, I'll send the message for you.

Posted by: Vendette at November 02, 2013 08:04 PM (EWSzw)

296 Did anyone else get a pop-up video ad?

I reloaded the page and it disappeared.

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 08:04 PM (E7Iyp)

297 I have been to a few moron meetups and never soiled my pants. We must be doing it wrong here in the northwest...

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 08:05 PM (RZ8pf)

298 AoSHQ = Secret Handshake

H2 = Secret Boobshake

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 08:06 PM (aTXUx)

299 must be doing it wrong here in the northwest... Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 03, 2013 12:05 AM (RZ8pf) backpacks....nobody thinks what is in them ie. a change of clothes

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 08:06 PM (t9Vdf)

300 Carol - Explains posts like "ihnd fouj wfuj,nb wej" Ia! Ia!

Posted by: CCC (Campus Crusade for Cthulhu) at November 02, 2013 08:06 PM (Vk2pI)

301 130 -- Anna... LOL.

But yeah... it does make sense.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 02, 2013 08:07 PM (lJaja)

302

He's a better web site designer than his web site designers.

 

Posted by: ValJar at November 02, 2013 08:07 PM (8MMMw)

303 Ginny, Link please? Carol

Posted by: Carol T at November 02, 2013 08:07 PM (z4WKX)

304 Speaking of Moron Meetups, we are organizing a Colorado Morondezvous in November or December. Are there any Colorado Morons here tonight that I should include on the notification list?

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 08:07 PM (ZrNcx)

305 You know, every time I hit F5 and see that pic of TFG doing the jazz hands, I get more and more pissed off. I'm well into "don't make a maniac outta me" territory.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 08:08 PM (JMmQ9)

306 no one steal this, it's going into the gaming thread (nothing really to do with gaming) but this is really cool

http://youtu.be/9aKWUja9Fqc

Posted by: The Dude at November 02, 2013 08:08 PM (vJdyz)

307 Our soldiers, sailor, airmen and Marines. It's hard to believe that the boys you watch growing up next door can grown up to be such brave men. Just normal men until dealt a great fate. Posted by: Niedermeyer's
--------------------

Take a tour of one of the WWII vintage subs, and try to imagine how they managed to do it. It is just beyond my imagination. But then, that was hardly the worst of situations.

The guys that survived extended artillery barrages..., wet, cold, scared nearly out of their minds.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:09 PM (aDwsi)

308

I'm interested Mindy. Find me on twitter by nick. Ft Collins.

 

Posted by: RokShox at November 02, 2013 08:09 PM (8MMMw)

309 So I'm drinking the cheap highland swill with water tonight, but ran out of water (Not willing to walk 100 paces to the kitchen for more). This stuff is good with spring water, but baddddd without.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 08:09 PM (4Mv1T)

310 Looking at Johnny Football highlights

Pretty sure he'll declare for the draft in 2015, he redshirted his Freshman year

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 08:10 PM (aTXUx)

311 (Not willing to walk 100 paces to the kitchen for more). Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 03, 2013 12:09 AM (4Mv1T) that seems really far

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 08:11 PM (t9Vdf)

312 RokShox, this Luddite doesn't understand Twitter. Do you have alternative contact information? Are you in the Yahoo group? I'd love for you to be able to attend.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 08:11 PM (ZrNcx)

313 I invested my saved daylight time at interest. When most of you get your hour back, I'll get an hour and seven minutes.

Posted by: mindful webworker wishes he could be here at November 02, 2013 08:12 PM (bDqG/)

314

Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2013 12:10 AM (aTXUx)


you mean next year, 2014.


lol stock 275W TDP on the 780ti

Posted by: The Dude at November 02, 2013 08:12 PM (vJdyz)

315 Jesus. Our soldiers, sailor, airmen and Marines. It's hard to believe that the boys you watch growing up next door can grown up to be such brave men. Just normal men until dealt a great fate.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 03, 2013 12:03 AM (DmNpO)


************************


When I despair of the millenial generation, I am reminded of the 19- and 20-year olds on patrol in Afghanistan, carrying more gear on their bodies than an ordinary person can even pick up, making decisions about life and death with precision and dignity.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 02, 2013 08:12 PM (HubSo)

316 100 paces? Is that one way, or round trip? Just trying to get a measure of the situation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:12 PM (aDwsi)

317 288 One statement and one question: kid must be sound asleep. And why the living hell are you here instead of having Naughty Naked FunTime? Posted by: DC in Towson at November 03, 2013 12:02 AM (eQJwb) --- Because my response was to laugh Actually it was in the middle o him dressing. He's gone to Pappas'.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 02, 2013 08:12 PM (N/cFh)

318 Anyone see that a congressman gave Sibelius a "Websites for Dummys" book at an event yesterday?

I think Weasel Zippers had the pic.

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 08:13 PM (E7Iyp)

319 303 Ginny, Link please? Carol Posted by: Carol T at November 03, 2013 12:07 AM (z4WKX) --- Was this directed to me, Carol? Link to what, naked dancing Dave?

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 02, 2013 08:13 PM (N/cFh)

320 If I were driving the Autobahn, I'd imagine "Motorbreath" by Metallica would be the first tune I'd want to hear.

Who am I kidding?  I'd drop Kill 'em All into the player and lay the hammer down.  Followed closely by Ministry, (Lay Lady Lay is priceless), and then some "cool-down" with Cuzco.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:14 PM (lq3Ak)

321 When I despair of the millenial generation, I am reminded of the 19- and 20-year olds on patrol in Afghanistan, carrying more gear on their bodies than an ordinary person can even pick up, making decisions about life and death with precision and dignity. *** The generation is not a total loss.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 08:14 PM (DmNpO)

322 Hey TR, you ever get around to shooting an IDPA/USPSA?

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 08:14 PM (t9Vdf)

323 That plane poop story is funny as hell.

Posted by: Y-not at November 02, 2013 08:14 PM (5H6zj)

324

Saw some morons/ettes are adding their Twitter handle to their nic.

 

Great idea!  (I've added mine now)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 02, 2013 08:14 PM (PZ6/M)

325 BTW... Hello, Horde.  How's Life treating you?

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:14 PM (lq3Ak)

326 312 Mindy, I'll try to join Yahoo

Posted by: RokShox at November 02, 2013 08:15 PM (8MMMw)

327 I invested my saved daylight time at interest. When most of you get your hour back, I'll get an hour and seven minutes. Posted by: mindful
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It is with much regret that I inform you that for the well-being of the many, it is necessary to confiscate  liberate your saved minutes and redistribute them to those who quandered theirs  do not have any.

Posted by: Barky at November 02, 2013 08:16 PM (aDwsi)

328 brb

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 08:16 PM (JMmQ9)

329 *squandered
Damnit

Posted by: Barky at November 02, 2013 08:16 PM (aDwsi)

330 My twitter handle is my nic!

Posted by: Old Dog at November 02, 2013 08:16 PM (tQYJH)

331 Awesome! Perhaps I should try to join Twitter. It seems like fun.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 08:17 PM (ZrNcx)

332 ICYMI, someone set up a site for people to post their insurance cancellation letters, http://mycancellation.com/. There's also a twitter feed, but Twitter keeps suspending it. Story here at Ricochet (link in nick).

Posted by: Y-not at November 02, 2013 08:17 PM (5H6zj)

333 As problematic as the 3.8 was in the late 90s, the 3.4 had even more problems

Never seen a Firebird or Camaro listed in Craigslist with the 3.4 that didn't say "needs a new head gasket"

GM's special "Dexcool" coolant which ate aluminum was part of the problem, the other was the smaller ports on the right side which made hot spots on the engine on that side

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 08:17 PM (aTXUx)

334 I offer again a Pro Tip :
Make good use of the extra hour, as they are going to reclaim it later.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 11:56 PM (aDwsi)
If you like your time you can keep your time.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 02, 2013 08:18 PM (H0R/1)

335 The government keeps "printing" minutes, so there has been no "savings" since 1988.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:18 PM (lq3Ak)

336 If I were driving the Autobahn, I'd imagine "Motorbreath" by Metallica would be the first tune I'd want to hear.

I'm gonna go with "Jerry Was A Race Car Driver" by Primus just for fun. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 02, 2013 08:18 PM (k55Fc)

337 Evenin' Everyone.

+1

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 02, 2013 08:18 PM (JawqV)

338 RoxShox, or you could just email me at mindysosiare at teh yahoo period cee oh em.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 08:19 PM (ZrNcx)

339 Ok I believe Walmart's ad match commercial is an early contender for the most obnoxious holiday commercial.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 02, 2013 08:19 PM (RZ8pf)

340 Yes Gingy, or is Dave your husband? If Dave is your husband I'm sorry. I have horrible time remembering names. I can remember every other thing except the name, unless I personally know the person. Carol

Posted by: Carol T at November 02, 2013 08:20 PM (z4WKX)

341 you mean next year, 2014.
lol stock 275W TDP on the 780ti
Posted by: The Dude at November 03, 2013 12:12 AM

Johnny Football is a sophomore, while I'm not sure he can't declare for the draft, it'll be smarter for him to play one more year and get bigger bucks. Even the Jags wouldn't want to start a QB with only 2 years college experience

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 08:20 PM (aTXUx)

342 "I'm gonna go with "Jerry Was A Race Car Driver" by Primus just for fun."
Posted by: no good deed

I'll buy that for a dollar.  That's right in my wheelhouse.

Plus  ..."Goin' on Down to South Park Gonna' Have Myself a Time".

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:20 PM (lq3Ak)

343 CDR M, What's your twitter handle?

Posted by: Y-not at November 02, 2013 08:21 PM (5H6zj)

344 340 Yes Gingy, or is Dave your husband? If Dave is your husband I'm sorry. I have horrible time remembering names. I can remember every other thing except the name, unless I personally know the person. Carol Posted by: Carol T at November 03, 2013 12:20 AM (z4WKX) --- Carol, he is. Weirddave. And no worry - if I'd have had my camera out I'd have sent you pictures!

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 02, 2013 08:21 PM (N/cFh)

345 The Mazda Miata looks to have a nice platform for an entry into racing.

Posted by: adams metric porn at November 02, 2013 08:21 PM (R6JT1)

346 Time to call it a night. CarolT, I sent your message to Bannion.

Posted by: Vendette at November 02, 2013 08:21 PM (EWSzw)

347 320 If I were driving the Autobahn, I'd imagine "Motorbreath" by Metallica would be the first tune I'd want to hear.
Who am I kidding? I'd drop Kill 'em All into the player and lay the hammer down. Followed closely by Ministry, (Lay Lady Lay is priceless), and then some "cool-down" with Cuzco.Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 12:14 AM (lq3Ak)
Highway Star is still a good one
Get off my lawn.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 02, 2013 08:21 PM (H0R/1)

348 Kindle Deal on Amazon. Steel Boat Iron Hearts: The Wartime Saga of Hans Goebeler and U-505.  $3.99.
http://tinyurl.com/mwnfe9h

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 08:21 PM (uVVG+)

349 Wynona's Big Brown Beaver, by Primus.  Silly-ass fun.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:21 PM (lq3Ak)

350 341 don't give Jerry Jones any ideas, please!

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 08:22 PM (E7Iyp)

351 I never like Monty Python, I guess I don't get Brit humor.

Posted by: George Lynch at November 02, 2013 08:22 PM (h+2SD)

352 nice ONT Cdr M,



if you like your spare hour of night you can wait until spring

Posted by: sven10077 at November 02, 2013 08:22 PM (9jfyN)

353 Fastest driving ever was on the autobahn.
240km/h or 150mph.
But it was in a 2.2 Ford Escort.

Fastest in America was 145mph in a BMW 635csi. Uphill. And still accelerating before I chickened out.

Posted by: xbradtc at November 02, 2013 08:22 PM (+FFD7)

354 321 When I despair of the millenial generation, I am reminded of the 19- and 20-year olds on patrol in Afghanistan, carrying more gear on their bodies than an ordinary person can even pick up, making decisions about life and death with precision and dignity. *** The generation is not a total loss. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 03, 2013 12:14 AM (DmNpO) See the book The Fourth Turning. If their theory is anywhere close to being correct, the Millennials are going to turn out to be very important indeed.

Posted by: rickl at November 02, 2013 08:22 PM (sdi6R)

355 that seems really far Posted by: jake -------------------------- My house is 95' wide, and I take short steps when I'm loaded. Re: IDPA. I had planned to go to a practice night lst month, and didn't when it was still real hot at that indoor range. I probably should go now that the weather is tolerable.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 08:23 PM (4Mv1T)

356 The government keeps "printing" minutes, so there has been no "savings" since 1988.
Posted by: Slapweasel
---------------

It is worse than that. Actually it is all just spread-sheet entries now. They aren't even bothering to hand out/pass around the physical 'minutes' anymore.

If I ever run for office, I will propose a "Time Lockbox", thus assuring that politicians never be able to get at it again.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:23 PM (aDwsi)

357 Mindy: Dee oh en ee

Posted by: RokShox at November 02, 2013 08:23 PM (8MMMw)

358 A car I'd like to have for a cool little gas saving commuter would be a pre-2000 Mini, the actual British one.

It was the one reliable car that British Leyland made and they were like driving a go-kart

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 08:24 PM (aTXUx)

359 Just read the plane poop story.  I would have opted for the parachute.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 08:24 PM (ThG3L)

360 I once got a '73 Plymouth Scamp to 101 MPH before that thing shook so badly that I was legitimately scared.  The steering wheel felt like I was holding back time itself.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:24 PM (lq3Ak)

361 Smod isn't just a tease she's a Russophilic tease....


when she FINALLY puts out it'll be for Ivan not us

Posted by: sven10077 at November 02, 2013 08:25 PM (9jfyN)

362 Driving Song? Dragula: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqQuihD0hoI

Posted by: The Drivin' Hat at November 02, 2013 08:26 PM (Vk2pI)

363 Took husband out to dinner at a new (for us) place in Park City, after dragging him through the outlets looking for boots. (The man is a saint.) Nice dinner. My main course was squab, which was delicious, stuffed and roasted. But it would have been better spatchcocked! :-)

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 02, 2013 08:26 PM (5H6zj)

364

Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2013 12:20 AM (aTXUx)


only need three years (and red shirting counts). His draft stock is maxed out (he would be a top 3 pick right now) with him and Bridgestone at the top. Take the money and run while you're still healthy as you never know what will happen next year, draft stock slips or injuries get to you. And if he does get seriously hurt next year, at least you're getting paid to sit on the sidelines

Posted by: The Dude at November 02, 2013 08:27 PM (vJdyz)

365 See the book The Fourth Turning. If their theory is anywhere close to being correct, the Millennials are going to turn out to be very important indeed. *** What is their prediction?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 08:27 PM (DmNpO)

366 My main course was squab, which was delicious, stuffed and roasted.
--------------------

Pro Tip:

If the stuffing was cabbage, do NOT fly anywhere tomorrow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:28 PM (aDwsi)

367 360 Slapweasel,

you were going 13 miles an hour faster than time Marty...


//Doc Brown

Posted by: sven10077 at November 02, 2013 08:28 PM (9jfyN)

368 321 When I despair of the millenial generation, I am reminded of the 19- and 20-year olds on patrol in Afghanistan, carrying more gear on their bodies than an ordinary person can even pick up, making decisions about life and death with precision and dignity.

***

The generation is not a total loss. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 03, 2013 12:14 AM

Unfortunately they're greatly outnumbered by Juiceboxers who are angry about paying for Obamacare along with student loan debt with shitty jobs if they can find one. Yet they still vote Dem because of weed, abortion, gay marriage, and their favorite pop stars telling them that Republicans are icky homophobic racists who hate women

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 08:28 PM (aTXUx)

369 Smod isn't just a tease she's a Russophilic tease....

No kidding, the Tunguska event was just a little foreplay for the Motherland. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 02, 2013 08:28 PM (k55Fc)

370 RoxShox: reply sent.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 08:28 PM (ZrNcx)

371 So I ate cottage cheese and apple pie jam for dinner. I'm hungry.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 02, 2013 08:29 PM (N/cFh)

372 Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 03, 2013 12:23 AM (aDwsi)

Yup... that's why I put "printing" in quotes.  The Dollar, (and therefore Savings Accounts), have lost 90% of their value since Nixon's straying from The Gold Standard.

Since the eighties, most Savings Accounts have been negated by inflation/devaluation, making them "procedural" instead of "complimentary and fruitful".

I think I have that right.  I've been pouring Lawnmower Beer into my pie-hole, so I may be wrong.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:29 PM (lq3Ak)

373 Worst was a HS buddies dad had a 68 vette w/427. friend goes lets see how fast this goes, whilst I was driving..... so mashed the gas and ran through the gears but at 115 it started cutting out and shook like Santa Clause's belly. so I mashed the gas some more just to see and got to 117mph and that was it

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 08:29 PM (t9Vdf)

374 As problematic as the 3.8 was in the late 90s, the 3.4 had even more problems ---------------------------- I have an '07 Pontiac Torrent fro Road Jr. It has the 3.4 that GM has built forever, and yet... ...a month after I bought it new, I discovered the engine was assembled in CHY-NAH. MAY-JOR valve train trouble at 30k miles. Thankfully fixed under warranty, and no other issues thus far at 96k miles.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 08:29 PM (4Mv1T)

375 >>If the stuffing was cabbage, do NOT fly anywhere tomorrow. No kidding!

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 02, 2013 08:30 PM (5H6zj)

376 Driving song: Reverend Horton Heat, Hot Rod Lincoln

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 08:31 PM (E7Iyp)

377
Set the clocks back?  Just call the Naval Observatory and have the butthead come over and set the clock.  It's just that simple idiots.

Posted by: Joey Biden at November 02, 2013 08:31 PM (pJF+c)

378 Unfortunately they're greatly outnumbered by Juiceboxers who are angry about paying for Obamacare along with student loan debt with shitty jobs if they can find one. Yet they still vote Dem because of weed, abortion, gay marriage, and their favorite pop stars telling them that Republicans are icky homophobic racists who hate women *** If there's anything the yungins like to do, it is to rebel. Let's pray they rebel against the machine that has them between a rock and a hard place.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 08:32 PM (DmNpO)

379 "you were going 13 miles an hour faster than time Marty..."
//Doc Brown
Posted by: sven10077

Hah!  I "saved" thirteen seconds, my heart lost four minutes.

-Net Loss.

That's not even mentioning what the government's "share" is every year.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:32 PM (lq3Ak)

380 I just listened to Hot Rod Lincoln.  Now, I'm playing Green Jello's "Little Pig, Little Pig." 

Posted by: no good deed at November 02, 2013 08:32 PM (k55Fc)

381

Shit, I hit 110 in my 3/4 ton this summer...towing my drift boat.

Some fucker tried to run me up in a passing zone on a one lane hwy.  You should have seen the look on his face when he ran out of pavement.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 08:32 PM (ThG3L)

382 Slapweasel, my fast driving experience was in a '72 Dodge Dart. Speedometer went to 120 and I was at 110 and then pictured a stupid cow stepping onto the highway in front of me and chickened out. Probably a good thing, since I was a poor college student and probably had lousy tires.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 08:32 PM (ZrNcx)

383 372Since the eighties, most Savings Accounts have been negated by inflation/devaluation, making them "procedural" instead of "complimentary and fruitful".Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 12:29 AM (lq3Ak)
But now there is no inflation at all.

Posted by: Ben Bernanke at November 02, 2013 08:32 PM (H0R/1)

384

Driving song: Reverend Horton Heat, Hot Rod Lincoln

 

 

Big Red Rocket of Love ain't bad, either.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 08:33 PM (ThG3L)

385 Yoko Ono has to be one of the least talented & ugly women on earth. I wonder if the NSA was starting up then when John Lennon got involved with her? I don't see anything in her that is attractive & I.am a Oman & believe most women are sympathetic to other women. Men would say she's ugly, but she must have had one thingJohn Lennon wanted that no other woman could give him. I know of a guy yay went after a certified crazy, others went after this nut too. Someone told me real reason, she has no teeth &phase false teeth teeth. It as disgusting as you men may think, . I have to wash my hands after typing last few sentences.

Posted by: Carol T at November 02, 2013 08:33 PM (z4WKX)

386 The long straight at Road Atlanta, 1985 Testa Rosa..., and I have no idea, I was too busy focusing on where/when I needed to brake.

Probably have neared 140 on various motorcycles. Always on race tracks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:33 PM (aDwsi)

387 Fastest I ever drove was in 1972 at 4AM in dad's '67 Galaxie w/ 390 while on my morning paper route. Buried the speedo at 120 just before running out of road. Drum brakes don't do much at 120.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 08:34 PM (4Mv1T)

388 365 See the book The Fourth Turning. If their theory is anywhere close to being correct, the Millennials are going to turn out to be very important indeed. *** What is their prediction? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 03, 2013 12:27 AM (DmNpO) I don't feel like going into it in detail right now, but the authors have a cyclical theory of history and generations that is very intriguing. Lots of yin/yang sort of stuff. They posit that the most recent generational analogue of the Millennials is the WW2 generation.

Posted by: rickl at November 02, 2013 08:35 PM (sdi6R)

389

Drum brakes don't do much at 120.

 

They lock up just fine at that speed.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 08:35 PM (ThG3L)

390 *snort giggle*

The Italians in WWII had a destroyer named Euro.  It was sunk by German aircraft off Greece.

http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/10945.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 08:36 PM (uVVG+)

391 They lock up just fine at that speed. Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2013 12:35 AM (ThG3L) the question is on which tire?

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 08:36 PM (t9Vdf)

392 Without vacuum assist, Drum brakes don't do much at 120.

Posted by: adams balanced porn at November 02, 2013 08:36 PM (R6JT1)

393 I just listened to Hot Rod Lincoln.
--------------

An old favorite

"Son,
You're gonna drive me to drinking, if you don't stop driving that hot rod Lincoln."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:36 PM (aDwsi)

394 "Slapweasel, my fast driving experience was in a '72 Dodge Dart. Speedometer went to 120 and I was at 110 and then pictured a stupid cow stepping onto the highway in front of me and chickened out."
Posted by: Mindy at November 03, 2013 12:32 AM (ZrNcx)

Ha!  Darts, Swingers and Scamps were all in that same body-style.  They were pretty cool, as far as I was concerned at sixteen.

That speed was really, really, really cool.  The shaking of the automobile wasn't, however... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:36 PM (lq3Ak)

395 ...or any other speed for that matter.  My 64 XL has a 390 and drums.  She doesn't like to stop in any sort of hurry.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 08:37 PM (ThG3L)

396 388 rickl,

makes sense....of  course so does the Chinese Zodiac

Posted by: sven10077 at November 02, 2013 08:37 PM (9jfyN)

397

the question is on which tire?

 

You never know.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 08:37 PM (ThG3L)

398 +1 on the car thread. +1 on the ONT. +1 hour for sleeping. +1 against liberals, confirms crits automatically.

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Flying Toaster Circus at November 02, 2013 08:37 PM (mPAr2)

399 Drum brakes don't do much at 120. They lock up just fine at that speed. Posted by: garrett ---------------------------------- I used to change the brake pads, and adjust them myself. The one thing they did best was lock up.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 08:38 PM (4Mv1T)

400 394 Miss my Dart. Someone in my town has one that is maybe a '73 in the same baby blue color and I put a note on their windshield to call me if they ever want to sell.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 08:38 PM (ZrNcx)

401 360 I once got a '73 Plymouth Scamp to 101 MPH before that thing shook so badly that I was legitimately scared. The steering wheel felt like I was holding back time itself.
Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 12:24 AM

My 72 340 Demon could do 120 easily, but I never dared take it much over 90.

While Chrysler made strong drivetrains, to this day I'm convinced that they outsourced their suspension engineering to Lada. Ball joints that came apart often, alignment thrown out if you ran over a pebble, and front torsion bar suspension that they thought was a good idea because Volkswagens had it


Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 08:39 PM (aTXUx)

402 390 Anna Puma,

now the Germans floted a Currency called the Euro that's been torpedoed by the Italians and Greeks....

history rhymes

Posted by: sven10077 at November 02, 2013 08:39 PM (9jfyN)

403 They posit that the most recent generational analogue of the Millennials is the WW2 generation. *** Wow! I wouldn't have seen that coming.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 02, 2013 08:39 PM (DmNpO)

404 Ha! Darts, Swingers and Scamps were all in that same body-style. Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 12:36 AM (lq3Ak) They were like cousins!

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 08:40 PM (ZrNcx)

405 From now on, every time the President gets up to give a speech, I'm just going to pretend "Liar" by the Rollins Band is playing. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 02, 2013 08:40 PM (k55Fc)

406 While Chrysler made strong drivetrains.... What was up w/those starters though?

Posted by: BignJames at November 02, 2013 08:41 PM (j7iSn)

407 I hear the chorus of Three Dog Night's "Liar!"

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 08:41 PM (E7Iyp)

408 1979-ish Dad's company car (Buick Rivera) I-475 in the general vicinity of the Flint, Michigan area Shit gets real past 135 MPH

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 08:42 PM (JMmQ9)

409 403 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse,

it makes sense if you look at generational history as being 4 12 year cycles....

I'm a water Rat...

kids born in 7 years will be too

Posted by: sven10077 at November 02, 2013 08:43 PM (9jfyN)

410 Yay! Colorado Morondezvous is picking up steam!

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 08:43 PM (ZrNcx)

411 They posit that the most recent generational analogue of the Millennials is the WW2 generation.Posted by: rickl at November 03, 2013 12:35 AM (sdi6R)
So the millennials will get drafted into WW3?
 

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 02, 2013 08:44 PM (H0R/1)

412 Eli's coming. Hide your ETs, girl.

Posted by: adams OBD2 porn at November 02, 2013 08:44 PM (R6JT1)

413 403 They posit that the most recent generational analogue of the Millennials is the WW2 generation. *** Wow! I wouldn't have seen that coming. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 03, 2013 12:39 AM (DmNpO) It makes me regard them with a little more respect, considering the shitstorm that we all know is coming.

Posted by: rickl at November 02, 2013 08:44 PM (sdi6R)

414 So the millennials will get drafted into WW3? Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr ----------------------------- Only way to interpret that. After 8 scotches, anyway.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 08:45 PM (4Mv1T)

415 Next time! I've got a ton of .22LR ammo I need to burn through.

Posted by: EC at November 02, 2013 11:19 PM (doBIb)




!



And +1 on the car thread. I've had the pony to 125 on the back stretch of VIR, that was enough. She had plenty of pedal left but I was running out of straight stretch and coming up on curve pretty fast, no doubt the car could handle it but not so sure about its driver. And I have no shame in admitting that.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 02, 2013 08:45 PM (yh0zB)

416 Mindy: I really like the "Morondezvous" thing. Wish I could be there for that

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 08:46 PM (JMmQ9)

417 My God, SNL just keeps finding a way to get worse every season, doesn't it?

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at November 02, 2013 08:46 PM (+MHcc)

418 late 90' Dodge Intripid, rental car, 140 mph in the dark on Skull Valley Rd trying to make a flight out of SLC after a month doing something ridiculous.  Note: big chunks of that road are open range.

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 08:46 PM (CMlD4)

419 That Slant-Six in the Scamp had a reputation for being able to take abuse, far beyond that of normal engines.  Speaking of the engine, I've often wondered if there was ever a better car to learn about engines than the Scamp. 

There was so much room in that compartment, I was able to get to everything.  It was all in plain sight with room to maneuver.

To this day, it was the only carbuerator I've ever rebuilt.  It was merely a 1bbl, but I was a proud kid when I was finished with that damn thing!


Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:46 PM (lq3Ak)

420 So the millennials will get drafted into WW3? Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 03, 2013 12:44 AM (H0R/1) they are too old. It is the next younger group ww3=cold war/ communism ww4=islam ww4 will prob start in the UK or Belgium

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 08:47 PM (t9Vdf)

421 She had plenty of pedal left but I was running out of straight stretch and coming up on curve pretty fast, ------------------------- That's the fact. You run out of road before you run out of gas.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 08:47 PM (4Mv1T)

422 hey posit that the most recent generational analogue of the Millennials is the WW2 generation.Posted by: rickl at November 03, 2013 12:35 AM (sdi6R)

So the millennials will get drafted into WW3?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr


or then next Warsaw Ghetto uprising

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 08:47 PM (CMlD4)

423 That's the fact. You run out of road before you run out of gas. Posted by: Tobacco Road

Move to Utah

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 08:48 PM (CMlD4)

424 Mindy: I really like the "Morondezvous" thing. Wish I could be there for that Posted by: AltonJackson at November 03, 2013 12:46 AM (JMmQ9) We wish you could, too. We're a little far away for you, right? "Morondezvous" is my husband's invention. I really liked it, so I adopted it.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 08:48 PM (ZrNcx)

425 My first car was a '73 Dodge Dart. Slant six, metallic gold, black vinyl roof. I have fond memories of it.

Posted by: rickl at November 02, 2013 08:49 PM (sdi6R)

426 That's the fact. You run out of road before you run out of gas. Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 03, 2013 12:47 AM (4Mv1T) Some run out of talent/skill first.

Posted by: BignJames at November 02, 2013 08:49 PM (j7iSn)

427 Move to Utah Posted by: Jean at November 03, 2013 12:48 AM (CMlD4) yep, Idaho is full

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 08:49 PM (t9Vdf)

428 When I was a youngun I saw a guy with a 56 Packard Executive with a 352 that was so balanced and idled so smoothly I swear you could have put a cup of coffee on the air cleaner and not spill a drop


Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 08:50 PM (aTXUx)

429 If I can get my dang back fixed next week, I'd be up for a meet-up in the North Florida area.  Montgomery isn't that far of a drive. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 02, 2013 08:51 PM (k55Fc)

430 "Morondezvous" is just melodious. Rolls off the brain in a pleasing manner...

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 08:51 PM (JMmQ9)

431 +1 for car thread. Sven, 4 12 year cycles seems a bit long for a generational cycle, but is long enough to have flushed out much of the immediate past so maybe it is a good model.

Posted by: Hrothgar Establishment RINO at November 02, 2013 08:51 PM (XdnQT)

432 425 My first car was a '73 Dodge Dart. Slant six, metallic gold, black vinyl roof. I have fond memories of it.

Posted by: rickl at November 03, 2013 12:49 AM

I never liked them very much

Posted by: Psycho in the 55 Peterbilt at November 02, 2013 08:51 PM (aTXUx)

433 IIRC, that was one of several Halsey/McCain disasters (the first being Halsey's decision to take every fucking ship he had in pursuit of a a few IJN carriers that didn't have enough planes to sink a floating turd, leaving San Bernadino Strait and the invasion of Leyte exposed) that should have resulted in Halsey spending the rest of the war polishing Nimitz's shoes and been replaced by Thomas Kincaid or Clifton Spraugue, whose ships paid the price for Halsey's vainglorious folly. Halsey reaped the glory from Midway that should have been Fletcher's, and the future commands that resulted. Fletch wouldn't have forgotten the mission and gone tearing off after empty carriers. Re: little dogs. How dangerous is a fox? We have a Shih Tzu and a wooded half acre lot. I watch him when he goes out to poop, but I've seen a fox out there once or twice. I figure if I'm close ( and I only let him out there in daylight ), then he'll be OK. Am I likely wrong? And it was the female Night Elf dance, not the Male Travolta one. Maybe I'll try that tomorrow night.

Posted by: Weirddave at November 02, 2013 08:51 PM (xBps2)

434 "My first car was a '73 Dodge Dart. Slant six, metallic gold, black vinyl roof. I have fond memories of it. "
Posted by: rickl

You, Mindy and I should start a club... lol.

My Scamp was Chocolate Brown with a tan, vinyl roof.  I still remember thinking that the curved back window would cost a lot of money, should an idiot friend load something incorrectly.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 08:52 PM (lq3Ak)

435 I swear you could have put a cup of coffee on the air cleaner and not spill a drop Posted by: kbdabear ------------------------------ We used to call it "balance a cigarette on the air cleaner wing nut."

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 08:52 PM (4Mv1T)

436 That Slant-Six in the Scamp had a reputation for being able to take abuse, far beyond that of normal engines.

Slant-Six was also known as "The Engine that Would Not Die." 

When I had a .gov surplus Dodge truck, the slant six in that thing would take all kinds of abuse as long as I fed it oil and gas in the right places.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 02, 2013 08:52 PM (JawqV)

437 And I have no shame in admitting that.
Posted by: GGE
-------------------------

Discretion is the better part of valor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 08:53 PM (aDwsi)

438

156 My dad was officer of the day the day the typhoons hit Okinawa 1945.  He drove over the hill and saw 5 waterspouts in Buckner Bay.

The wind thingy blew off the weather shack at 140 knots

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 08:53 PM (b7yum)

439 If its a car/drinking thread I might muse about blasting Red Barchetta in my minivan these days.

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 08:53 PM (CMlD4)

440 Seriously, again seeing TFG doing the jazz hands is going to make a maniac out of me...

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 08:53 PM (JMmQ9)

441 If Dave is your husband I'm sorry. Well that's a fine how-do-you-do. What did I ever do to you? :p

Posted by: Weirddave at November 02, 2013 08:53 PM (xBps2)

442 258 Y'all. Dave just did the Night Elf from World of Warcraft dance in boxer shorts covered in maple leaves.

We talkin' the male Night Elf dance or the female one?

Posted by: Anachronda at November 02, 2013 08:54 PM (U82Km)

443 392 Fed law requires power brake systems to allow 2 assisted brake applications after the engine is turned off

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 08:54 PM (b7yum)

444 might muse about blasting Red Barchetta in my minivan these days. Posted by: Jean at November 03, 2013 12:53 AM (CMlD4) be sure to turn it up to '11'

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 08:54 PM (t9Vdf)

445

I swear you could have put a cup of coffee on the air cleaner and not spill a drop

 

 

If you have the timing right, it should stir itself.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2013 08:55 PM (ThG3L)

446 I think a Shih Tzu is large enough to not be threatened by foxes. 

Posted by: no good deed at November 02, 2013 08:55 PM (k55Fc)

447 From the various non-hagiographical histories I've read, Ray Spruance was the guy who did a lot of the actual heavy lifting Halsey got credit for.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 08:56 PM (4tK7k)

448 441 If DAve was your husband you'd be asleep by now

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 08:56 PM (b7yum)

449 Fed law requires power brake systems to allow 2 assisted brake applications after the engine is turned off Posted by: DAve at November 03, 2013 12:54 AM (b7yum) so where do they 'store' vaccume for that?

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 08:57 PM (t9Vdf)

450 The fox may never recover from witnessing the dance though.

Posted by: no good deed at November 02, 2013 08:57 PM (k55Fc)

451 I saw Shih Tzu open for The Foxes at Pine Knob back in 1978...

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 02, 2013 08:58 PM (JMmQ9)

452 That's the fact. You run out of road before you run out of gas.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 03, 2013 12:47 AM (4Mv1T)



Way back 'long time ago, in Ioway, I was behind the wheel of a 73 Merc Marquis, 428 in that sucker, could bury the speedo no problems on those long straight stretches of road...and float the springs pretty good coming over the tops of the hills...



but I was younger then, and bulletproof. These days I'm more convinced of my own mortality. Not afraid to die, but not anxious to do it real soon, either.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 02, 2013 08:58 PM (yh0zB)

453 Yeah, Red Barchetta is one of my faves.

Tho, the video they used live looked like the old monochrome game Night Driver

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 08:58 PM (E7Iyp)

454 419 That Slant-Six in the Scamp had a reputation for being able to take abuse, far beyond that of normal engines. Speaking of the engine, I've often wondered if there was ever a better car to learn about engines than the Scamp.

There was so much room in that compartment, I was able to get to everything. It was all in plain sight with room to maneuver.

To this day, it was the only carbuerator I've ever rebuilt. It was merely a 1bbl, but I was a proud kid when I was finished with that damn thing!


Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 12:46 AM

There was one nasty drawback in the Slant 6 if you did your own tuneups. The distributor was placed on the right hand side near under the head. If you had to replace points, it was sometimes necessary to pull the entire distributor out. It was wonderful when they went to pointless distributors, but by that time the smog regulations strangled the Slant 6 so badly that they often stalled until you warmed them up good. Even then it felt like you were towing a bus in the heavier Volare and Aspen lines

 

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 08:58 PM (aTXUx)

455 449 In the canister itself.  It's fed by a 1-way valve

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 08:58 PM (b7yum)

456 ww3=cold war/ communism
Posted by: jake at November 03, 2013 12:47 AM (t9Vdf)
That wasn't an "official" war.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 02, 2013 08:58 PM (H0R/1)

457 so where do they 'store' vaccume for that? Posted by: jake ------------------------- I was wondering likewise. I don't recall anything I ever drove in the past 40 years that braked for squat after the engine died.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 02, 2013 08:58 PM (4Mv1T)

458 So nice to see you my Idaho friend!!!

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 08:59 PM (b7yum)

459

457 Try it again and you shall see!!

Try it, try it, try for me!!!

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:00 PM (b7yum)

460 I think a Shih Tzu is large enough to not be threatened by foxes.
Posted by: no good deed
------------

Coyotes = problem, probably.

Talking to neighbor this evening. She was doing some yard work, had just given her dog (a mid-sized wire-haired terrier of some sort) a rawhide chew stick. She heard the dog barking, walked around the corner and found a black bear cub had taken his chew stick. She gathered up the dog about the time the sow came ambling along, and that was that. Sow and cub walked off...., with the chew stick.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 09:01 PM (aDwsi)

461 439 If its a car/drinking thread I might muse about blasting Red Barchetta in my minivan these days. Posted by: Jean at November 03, 2013 12:53 AM (CMlD4) --- I resemble that remark. --- 448 441 If DAve was your husband you'd be asleep by now Posted by: DAve at November 03, 2013 12:56 AM (b7yum) --- I don't understand. Are you that boring?

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 02, 2013 09:01 PM (N/cFh)

462 I've seen a retrofit for a brake boost valve on one of the car tech shows.. Two Guys Garage I think.

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 09:01 PM (E7Iyp)

463 Oops, hit post before I added..

And I'd like it, as my brakes start soft sometimes.

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 09:02 PM (E7Iyp)

464 392 Fed law requires power brake systems...

What year was that enacted?

Posted by: adams too lazy 2 NTSB porn at November 02, 2013 09:02 PM (R6JT1)

465 Some run out of talent/skill first.

Posted by: BignJames at November 03, 2013 12:49 AM (j7iSn)



That, too, and it was a brand new at the time. Most powerful car I have ever owned.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 02, 2013 09:03 PM (yh0zB)

466 461 One end or the other it's gonna be sleepy time soon

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:03 PM (b7yum)

467 I got two more hours till its one more hours..

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 09:03 PM (E7Iyp)

468 442 258 Y'all. Dave just did the Night Elf from World of Warcraft dance in boxer shorts covered in maple leaves. We talkin' the male Night Elf dance or the female one? Posted by: Anachronda at November 03, 2013 12:54 AM (U82Km) --- He says female. I had no idea. It was rather bouncy.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 02, 2013 09:04 PM (N/cFh)

469 Some vehicles (my S-10, for example) have a small vacuum accumulator. There is a check valve in the line between the manifold and the accumulator.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 09:04 PM (aDwsi)

470 Well there is a small problem there.  Raymond Spruance was in charge of Enterprise and Hornet at Midway.  Not Halsey.  And TF16 and TF17 operated independently at Midway.  Which meant Yorktown caught the brunt of the attacks.  Hornet even sent Wildcats to support Yorktown's CAP.   Fletcher ceded command to Spruance, so the sinking of Hiryu and Mikuma were his kills.  And he remembered his mission which was to protect Midway and turned away after hitting Hiryu, thus spoiling any chance of Mogami, Mikuma, two other CAs, and DDs from making a night surface attack.

And when it came to the invasion of the Marianas Spruance remembered his mission to protect the invasion fleet and not go haring off after Ozawa.  Petty little admirals like Jocko Clark thought Spruance should have gone after Ozawa.  We saw what happened when buck fever strikes an admiral later at Leyte.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 09:04 PM (uVVG+)

471 That wasn't an "official" war.

Plus, it appears that we lost.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 09:04 PM (d7tB2)

472 464 I believe 1969, around the time of mandatory dual master cylinders and self-adjusting brakes

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:04 PM (b7yum)

473 Hey PGS, it was definitely NOT Grahm Kerr! The "Pedo' Gourmet" was another dude entirely. Jeff something Smith? Graham is a Christian and reformed Galloping Soused Gourmet.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at November 02, 2013 09:04 PM (dZGNV)

474 AltonJackson, I've passed your kind compliment along to my husband.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 09:05 PM (ZrNcx)

475 Morondezvous is genius. Well done Mr Mindy

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 09:05 PM (d7tB2)

476 We saw what happened when buck fever strikes an admiral later at Leyte.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 03, 2013 01:04 AM (uVVG+)



Yep. Iowa class battleships lose their chance to engage in the very last battleship match-up.

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 02, 2013 09:06 PM (yh0zB)

477 Coyotes = problem, probably.

Definitely.  Coyotes will lure a dog out to "play" and then lead the dog into where more coyotes are waiting in ambush.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 02, 2013 09:06 PM (JawqV)

478 449 Fed law requires power brake systems to allow 2 assisted brake applications after the engine is turned off
Posted by: DAve at November 03, 2013 12:54 AM (b7yum)

so where do they 'store'
vaccume for that? Posted by: jake at November 03, 2013 12:57 AM

Everything is computerized and done with electric pumps nowadays, pretty much drive by wire

Throttles haven't had direct cable links to the throttle body in years, the ECM detects your pedal position and signals the throttle body and injectors. Steering is going more to electronic too, the computer signaling the control motors will be pretty much universal in a few years



Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 09:06 PM (aTXUx)

479 Some diesels have such low manifold vacuum that they have had to install vacuum pumps for vacuum powered accessories. GM did that with the diesels they put in Oldsmobiles et al.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 02, 2013 09:07 PM (aDwsi)

480 That would have been an interesting battle.  Iowa BBs vs IJN Yamato.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 02, 2013 09:09 PM (uVVG+)

481 If you can do a Morondezvous any weekend except the weekend of the 16th . . .

otherwise I'm going to have to hide in some toilets and scare people :^P

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 09:09 PM (d7tB2)

482

478 We'll see.

479  Engines with superchargers have NO vacuum

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:09 PM (b7yum)

483 Throttles haven't had direct cable links to the throttle body in years, the ECM detects your pedal position and signals the throttle body and injectors. Steering is going more to electronic too, the computer signaling the control motors will be pretty much universal in a few years



Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2013 01:06 AM (aTXUx)



The Mustangs since 2011 have Electronic Power Assist Steering. Do yourself a favor, get the 2012 or newer as the firmware in the 2011 does bad things if you change out the stock bushings on the front suspension. Ford doesn't recognize that there is a problem since if you replace them with stock bushings you don't have any issues, but they quietly updated the firmware in 2012. And it's burned in, no way to change it.

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 02, 2013 09:10 PM (yh0zB)

484 Thanks, BTH. Mr. Mindy, aka Mr. Bassman, appreciates your appreciation.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 09:10 PM (ZrNcx)

485 471 That wasn't an "official" war.
Plus, it appears that we lost.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 03, 2013 01:04 AM (d7tB2)
Although we were told that we had won!
Suckers!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 02, 2013 09:10 PM (H0R/1)

486 Still here. Cougar and Beagle are asleeping on the couch. I'm drinking much strong drink and watching Archer.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 02, 2013 09:11 PM (eQJwb)

487 That would have been an interesting battle. Iowa BBs vs IJN Yamato.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 03, 2013 01:09 AM (uVVG+)



Wouldn't it though...instead Yamato got sunk by aircraft and Iowa sits at anchor, fate undetermined (the only one of the 4 Iowa class battleships not claimed as museums).

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 02, 2013 09:11 PM (yh0zB)

488 A electrical fireball-like discharge runs down power lines along a street. This is really cool. I don't know if it's been posted yet anywhere else. It takes a few seconds to come into view https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34r6RGF2JLA

Posted by: .87c at November 02, 2013 09:12 PM (qZPXs)

489 GM did that with the diesels they put in Oldsmobiles et al.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 03, 2013 01:07 AM (aDwsi)




Dad had an Olds diesel, the power brakes were hydraulic assist run off of the power steering pump. Funny looking contraption and guess what happened if the engine died? Yep...no power on the power brakes. So much for the federal mandate.

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 02, 2013 09:13 PM (yh0zB)

490 Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 03, 2013 01:09 AM (d7tB2) Well, we've also proposed a weekend in December. Perhaps we should lean that way.

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 09:13 PM (ZrNcx)

491 "There was one nasty drawback in the Slant 6 if you did your own tuneups. The distributor was placed on the right hand side near under the head. If you had to replace points, it was sometimes necessary to pull the entire distributor out. It was wonderful when they went to pointless distributors, but by that time the smog regulations strangled the Slant 6 so badly that they often stalled until you warmed them up good. Even then it felt like you were towing a bus in the heavier Volare and Aspen lines."
Posted by: kbdabear

Yes, yes, one-thousand times yes.  I'd forgotten about that, but you are correct.  There was one thing that I "couldn't get to", and it was exactly that. 

You are also correct about the "warm-up" time.  After replacing the starter, (twice), and tuning up the car with the aptly-named "pointless" distributor, I had to let that thing run for 20min before I could rely on the gas pedal, let alone the heater.

That thing used to run in the Northeast Ohio Winter like a ..., well, like a Scamp.  After that replacement, I'd wondered what happened.

The frame was the downfall of my particular automobile.  It warped and rusted like no-one's business.  By "the end", it had pushed its way through the trunk.  The elderly leaf springs and poor framework had allowed the rear-end to show itself and it was all over.

I replaced the springs, to no avail.  That frame was coming through the trunk, no matter what I did.  The body was rusted, but patchable.  The frame, on the other hand, failed in the rear-end first.

Sad note.  I really enjoyed that car.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 09:13 PM (lq3Ak)

492 Going to hit the hay now. Goodnight, y'all!

Posted by: Mindy at November 02, 2013 09:14 PM (ZrNcx)

493 Thank you Purp, Dexter ending did suck! They should have had Dexter & Hannah live happily ever after. I did not like them killing Deb too. It was a strange show around a character that was mentally scarred as a toddler. Dexter should have had a good ending. Thank you too, CDR M . My younger brother needs prayers. Carol

Posted by: Carol T at November 02, 2013 09:14 PM (z4WKX)

494 The frame, on the other hand, failed in the rear-end first. Sad note. I really enjoyed that car. Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 01:13 AM (lq3Ak) too many wheelies?

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 09:14 PM (t9Vdf)

495 goodnight Mindy + Bassman!

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at November 02, 2013 09:15 PM (d7tB2)

496 That diesel engine, BTW, was complete and utter crap. After going through 3 of them he had it replaced with a 350 Rocket gas motor. It got amazing mileage with the diesel's gearing.

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 02, 2013 09:15 PM (yh0zB)

497 OT to anyone who isn't mired in the arcane: I just watched a Quality Control video from British Leyland 1978 ended up with a dead customer, a dead baby, and a dead pedestrian all because of their products. Fascinating study of a company and way of life in its death throes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTCfJKNE2hg

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 02, 2013 09:16 PM (l3vZN)

498 Hi, insomniacs! What's shaking?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 02, 2013 09:17 PM (mvenn)

499 479 Engines with superchargers have NO vacuum Posted by: DAve at November>>

And the air comes from where?

Posted by: The Hickster at November 02, 2013 09:17 PM (MVBSu)

500 Open the hood of any new car and you wonder where the engine is under all the hoses, ducts, covers, modules, and wires

Then you have the computerized transmissions/transaxles, traction control, even computerized shocks in upper end German and Japanese cars.

One thing that makes me laugh when I see a kid with modifications to a new car like the coffee can mufflers and 22 inch wheels is that they have no clue how that throws off the car's factory computer settings. Oversized wheels throw off traction control, the transmission, suspension, and even engine contol modules not to mention the speedometer


Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 09:18 PM (aTXUx)

501 A electrical fireball-like discharge runs down power lines along a street. This is really cool. I don't know if it's been posted yet anywhere else. It takes a few seconds to come into view

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34r6RGF2JLA

Posted by: .87c at November 03, 2013 01:12 AM (qZPXs)

Wow! A full-scale Jacob's Ladder like they often use to demonstrate Tesla coils. I made a baby one once using the HV supply from an old computer monitor. Worked great until it blew a fuse on the board.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 09:18 PM (8Fl6F)

502 And the air comes from where? Posted by: The Hickster at November 03, 2013 01:17 AM (MVBSu) the sky?

Posted by: L.I.V. at November 02, 2013 09:19 PM (t9Vdf)

503 .87c  If it's real, that's pretty scary.


Favorite comment from the youtube peanut gallery:

and this everyone is what happens when you get a call from chuck Norris


Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 02, 2013 09:19 PM (JawqV)

504 I'm too inebriated to wade through searches of gov docs on a Saturday night.

This Winston Smith remembers brakes without power assist as an option in the '70s.


Posted by: adams 2 + 2 = 5 porn at November 02, 2013 09:19 PM (R6JT1)

505 "Too many wheelies?"
 Posted by: jake

Hah!  If you know the "power" behind a Slant-Six, 225, 1bbl, you're in-line as a serious comedian!

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 09:19 PM (lq3Ak)

506 Hey everyone, I wanted a new palette so I could paint other things, but I hate to waste paint so instead I made this in just a few minutes:

http://tinyurl.com/ktd32yw

Sorry the photo has flash artifacts and stuff on it; this is because I am lousy at everything.  The upper white box (added in post-production) shows the painting, the lower white box (AIPP) shows the very palette that led to this, with most of the non-wasted paint now spent (upon the canvas)..

Posted by: Null at November 02, 2013 09:20 PM (xjpRj)

507 coffee can mufflers and 22 inch wheels is that they have no clue how that throws off the car's factory computer settings. Oversized wheels throw off traction control, the transmission, suspension, and even engine contol modules not to mention the speedometer Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2013 01:18 AM (aTXUx) a good speed shop will address that a poor one won't

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 09:21 PM (t9Vdf)

508 Uh, the USS Iowa is most definitely a museum ship now, in San Pedro CA.

Posted by: xbradtc at November 02, 2013 09:21 PM (+FFD7)

509 Supercharged vehicles have no manifold vacuum, but intake vacuum isn't much use as it is pretty miniscule by comparison. Much easier to run an electric vacuum pump for your vacuum driven accessories (or convert them to electric).

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 02, 2013 09:21 PM (yh0zB)

510 a serious comedian! Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 01:19 AM (lq3Ak) no just part time

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 09:22 PM (t9Vdf)

511 My Diesel suburban has hydraboost for the brakes. There is a small hydraulic accumulator built into it which gives you assist for the two applications if the engine shuts down. But hydraboost, like vacuum boost, will still stop without assist. You just have stand on the pedal with more authority.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 09:22 PM (8Fl6F)

512 the USS Iowa is most definitely a museum ship now, in San Pedro CA.

Posted by: xbradtc at November 03, 2013 01:21 AM (+FFD7)



Is it? Outstanding, last I knew she was unclaimed, I'm glad she has a home.

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 02, 2013 09:23 PM (yh0zB)

513 Well, I'm off to bed. I'm going to sleep through the extra hour. Sunrise comes at 6:32 am, and I'd like to get up to watch some of the partial eclipse. I probably won't have to set my alarm, as my cats will assume that it's breakfast time when it gets light out.

Posted by: rickl at November 02, 2013 09:23 PM (sdi6R)

514

Hey kbda howcum you don't come visit me at my shop some night in watts?

AOP the best source for jacob's ladders is neon light power supplies

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:24 PM (b7yum)

515 And the air comes from where?
Posted by: The Hickster at November 03, 2013 01:17 AM (MVBSu)
the sky? Posted by: L.I.V.>>


My point was any combustion engine needs vacuum to run.

Posted by: The Hickster at November 02, 2013 09:25 PM (MVBSu)

516 ...no just part time
Posted by: jake

Bah-Doom-*tiss*

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 09:25 PM (lq3Ak)

517 Hey everyone, I wanted a new palette so I could paint other things, but I hate to waste paint so instead I made this in just a few minutes:

http://tinyurl.com/ktd32yw

Is that what SMOD will look like for those who see it coming?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 02, 2013 09:26 PM (JawqV)

518 I took the tour earlier this summer. It's mostly of the upper decks. Maybe in a few years they'll have more of it opened up, much like the Midway:

http://www.pacificbattleship.com/

Posted by: xbradtc at November 02, 2013 09:26 PM (+FFD7)

519 You guys disparaging engine vacuum sure like to talk a lot of shit behind your intake stroke's back

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:27 PM (b7yum)

520 Yeah, neon sign transformers. Ignition transformers from old oil burning furnaces work, too. But the HV supply from a TV or monitor, at least the solid-state ones, will typically run off 12 volts DC. You could pack one, plus batteries, into the handle of a "light saber".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 09:27 PM (8Fl6F)

521 A electrical fireball-like discharge runs down power lines along a street.

Looks like 3P in the 40kv range shorting across to the 4kv'ish feed that goes to the transformers that feed individual houses.

There was a similar video years ago at Mike Holt's electrician site.  Some lineman in a bucket truck fucked up and drove the bucket arm too far and shit went sideways real quick with 40kv going down the 4kv lines to the household transformers.

There was one nearby house that had sparks'n shit flying out of aluminum siding and soffits. 

The medium voltage stuff like 4kv can be insulated, but at high voltages the wires run bare with no "insulation" other than physical distance separating them

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 02, 2013 09:27 PM (4tK7k)

522

515 In relative terms, yeah.  In absolute, no.

I guess every pump does have a suction side

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:29 PM (b7yum)

523 g'night

Posted by: jake at November 02, 2013 09:30 PM (t9Vdf)

524 Those vacuums aren't well-designed.

Posted by: Gay Dyson Guy at November 02, 2013 09:30 PM (lq3Ak)

525 521 In a community close to me a guy built a house too close to the HV wires and he couldn't turn his lights off

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:31 PM (b7yum)

526 I owe Mike Holt a great deal

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:31 PM (b7yum)

527 My point was any combustion engine needs vacuum to run.

Posted by: The Hickster at November 03, 2013 01:25 AM (MVBSu)


Well, they create vacuum, more than "need" it. Piston goes down on the intake stroke, a partial vacuum is created, and air (+/-fuel) rushes in. Gasoline engines typically have a fairly high intake manifold vacuum, because the throttle plate restricts incoming air. Diesels have no throttle plate, and manifold vacuum is extremely low. And a turbo diesel may be under positive pressure throughout the intake tract; just a little less positive in a cylinder doing its intake stroke.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 09:33 PM (8Fl6F)

528 I have a 19kv line outside my house. After a vicious storm the pole with the transformer was laying down and allowed contact with a metal clothes line in the yard. When the power company reactivated the line, without checking for damage back in my very isolated line it immediately fried the clothes line, melted the steel eye bolts in the tree trunks and caught the trees on fire. A heck of display of fireworks, it was.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 02, 2013 09:33 PM (l3vZN)

529 What about me?

Posted by: Mike Holmes at November 02, 2013 09:33 PM (lq3Ak)

530 All this talk of suction and strokes makes me oddly aroused.

Posted by: Shep Smith at November 02, 2013 09:34 PM (lq3Ak)

531 In a community close to me a guy built a house too close to the HV wires and he couldn't turn his lights off

Believable. I've seen idiots get right next to KW transmitters just to "magically" light up a fluorescent tube.  All you need is a strong enough electrical field.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 02, 2013 09:35 PM (JawqV)

532 527 Gasoline engines typically have a fairly high intake manifold vacuum (AT IDLE), because the (CLOSED) throttle plate restricts incoming air.

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:35 PM (b7yum)

533 Hah! If you know the "power" behind a Slant-Six, 225, 1bbl, you're in-line as a serious comedian!
Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 01:19 AM

What was funny in the movie Duel was Dennis Weaver's Valiant trying to break 100 in the open desert, and the car getting squirrelly even on a straight stretch. It's bad enough that you can't outrun an ancient Pete semi, but when you can't outhandle one it's not a fine machine you have there.

Thing was, the Pete's performance was exaggerated, but the Valiant's was pretty much how they ran and handled

Even then, they were powerhouses compared to the Volare/Aspen models with the Slant 6. I'm surprised that they don't make many "Worst Car" lists.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 09:35 PM (aTXUx)

534 Holmes on Homes

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 09:35 PM (E7Iyp)

535 we know Shep, we know.. Ain't foolin anyone

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 09:37 PM (E7Iyp)

536 Is that still on?

Posted by: adams waiting for Catch a Contractor porn at November 02, 2013 09:38 PM (R6JT1)

537 Tonight's feature film:   Star Trek - Into Darkness.  

Rather predictable.  In one scene, the Enterprise plunges down to earth, through clouds ... and I started counting down 3 seconds on a hand - and surprise, surprise, the Enterprise rises out of the clouds, utterly safe.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 02, 2013 09:38 PM (0wHyk)

538 Gasoline engines typically have a fairly high intake manifold vacuum (AT IDLE), because the (CLOSED) throttle plate restricts incoming air.

True enough. At W.O.T., a gasoline engine will have very little vacuum, comparable to a Diesel. Peak vacuum would occur on closed-throttle deceleration from high RPM.

The presence of the throttle plate is one of the reasons why gasoline engines are less efficient than Diesels, although the gap is narrowing. Pumping losses.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 09:39 PM (8Fl6F)

539 Evenin' all. Last night for the haunted trail, mansion, asylum. It was a freakin blast., audio record for posterity...and for making fun.

Posted by: RWC at November 02, 2013 09:41 PM (LpbKr)

540 534 Holmes on HomesPosted by: JarvisW at November 03, 2013 01:35 AM (E7Iyp)
Holmes on Watson.

Posted by: Barney Frank at November 02, 2013 09:41 PM (H0R/1)

541 Speaking of vacuums, is Hickster out there? Any movement on that turbo vacuum pump? How'd last night go? I'm still weighing my options, but I'm kind of leaning towards a two-stage rotary vane pump, with an oil diffusion pump if needed. But I'd like something simpler and faster.

Posted by: .87c at November 02, 2013 09:41 PM (qZPXs)

542 A supercharger pressurizes the intake air, so vacuum is kind of a moot point

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 09:42 PM (aTXUx)

543 Even then, they were powerhouses compared to the Volare/Aspen models with the Slant 6. I'm surprised that they don't make many "Worst Car" lists.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2013 01:35 AM (aTXUx)


Oh, they do. http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/100-worst-cars-of-all-time.html

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at November 02, 2013 09:43 PM (ylG8S)

544 Hah!  The Valiant was another one, in-line with the Scamp, Dart and Swinger.

Forgot about that one.

I'll bet that if you look at most "Worst Car" lists, the Valiant is right around #13-20 on the Voting List.

...Here's a funny thing.  People still go to "Vega Rallies"... lol.

The L.I.D. (Low-Information Driver), still turns up on voting lists and makes a statement for "appearance", which counts, but.... lol.

Posted by: Slapweael at November 02, 2013 09:44 PM (lq3Ak)

545 ...Here's a funny thing. People still go to "Vega Rallies"... lol.
Posted by: Slapweael at November 03, 2013 01:44 AM (lq3Ak)
If it was your first method of independence then it may have a warm spot in your memory.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 02, 2013 09:46 PM (H0R/1)

546 542 Yeah, but I think that the point was that there is a suction on the inlet to the compressor

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:47 PM (b7yum)

547 514
Hey kbda howcum you don't come visit me at my shop some night in watts?
AOP the best source for jacob's ladders is neon light power supplies Posted by: DAve at November 03, 2013 01:24 AM

I left Clownifornia three years ago and now live in Florida. Thanks for the invite but it's a little out of the way for me now.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 09:48 PM (aTXUx)

548 If it was your first method of independence then it may have a warm spot in your memory.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

Yup... I drove a 73 Plymouth Scamp.  I hear you!

Posted by: Slapweael at November 02, 2013 09:48 PM (lq3Ak)

549 I'm sick and tired of a lot of this "anti-bullying" s**t. If someone is acting like a slut, it is not bullying for simply saying so. Enraging post in question: http://tinyurl.com/kh7m4o6

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 02, 2013 09:50 PM (Vk2pI)

550 By the way...

When is the E.P.A. going to be forced to bring back freon?

Posted by: Slapweael at November 02, 2013 09:51 PM (lq3Ak)

551 Oh, they do. http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/100-worst-cars-of-all-time.html
Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at November 03, 2013 01:43 AM

If you were betting on a drag race between a Volare and a VW Bus, you had a good chance of winning some cash betting on the VW

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 09:52 PM (aTXUx)

552 Good Night, Horde. Ginny, I am too tired to read if you are upset with me, but forgive me because for over seven months I haven't had one good night's sleep. I am chronic pain patient but ,they meds aren't helping me sleep

Posted by: Carol T at November 02, 2013 09:52 PM (z4WKX)

553 ...at the same time they stop denouncing DDT?

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 09:52 PM (lq3Ak)

554 550 They've already forced a replacement to R-134

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:52 PM (b7yum)

555 We love you, Carol.  You're GOOD here.

Our prayers are with you, young lady.  Get some sleep.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 09:53 PM (lq3Ak)

556 And look what that did to the shuttle.

Posted by: .87c at November 02, 2013 09:54 PM (qZPXs)

557 In all my years I've never driven a Porsche 911

It's on my Bucket List

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 09:55 PM (aTXUx)

558 "They've already forced a replacement to R-134"
 Posted by: DAve

"Ridiculous" doesn't even begin to describe those jesters.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 09:55 PM (lq3Ak)

559 If it was your first method of independence then it may have a warm spot in your memory. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 03, 2013 01:46 AM (H0R/1) A Vega was my first new car....."warm spot" is not the term I use.

Posted by: BignJames at November 02, 2013 09:57 PM (j7iSn)

560 Oh, they do. http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/100-worst-cars-of-all-time.html

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at November 03, 2013 01:43 AM (ylG8S)




I call bullshit. I've only owned one of the cars on that list (the Cavalier, but mine was an 85, not an 82...not that there was much difference) and I've owned no less than 3 Mopar front wheel drives.

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 02, 2013 09:57 PM (yh0zB)

561

558 More "insidious" than "ridiculous" imo

I don't see anybody laughing

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 09:57 PM (b7yum)

562 "In all my years I've never driven a Porsche 911

It's on my Bucket List"

Posted by: kbdabear

My God.  That road-hugging, amplified power remains one of the things I'm going to test-drive, if nothing else.

-Godspeed on your wishes, Sir!

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 09:57 PM (lq3Ak)

563 "I don't see anybody laughing."
 Posted by: DAve

You are correct.  Poor choice of words on my behalf.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 09:58 PM (lq3Ak)

564 I got another hour, before I got another hour...

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 09:59 PM (E7Iyp)

565 550 By the way...

When is the E.P.A. going to be forced to bring back freon?
Posted by: Slapweael at November 03, 2013 01:51 AM

The EPA will probably tell us to feel thankful they let us have a car, no less a/c

And fuck you Springsteen, you should refuse any money you make off your early muscle car songs since you shill for leftists who want to take them away from us

Oh, and James Cameron, wherever you are out there ... FUCK YOU TOO

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 09:59 PM (aTXUx)

566 http://bit.ly/18OWBVD

Posted by: The Dude at November 02, 2013 09:59 PM (vJdyz)

567 TPH @549 - Linked article doesn't seem to match your commentary.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 02, 2013 10:00 PM (JawqV)

568 I actually did drive a 911 for a few blocks. I got saddled with the job of doing a tuneup on the car, and balancing its six carburetors, so of course I had to try it out. But I drove it pretty gently.


And the car's owner was quite pleased with my work, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 10:01 PM (8Fl6F)

569 This is the best community on the web.

And I have worst keyboard. 

Posted by: Null at November 02, 2013 10:02 PM (xjpRj)

570 And fuck you Springsteen, you should refuse any money you make off your early muscle car songs since you shill for leftists who want to take them away from us

Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2013 01:59 AM (aTXUx)


Not to mention dudes like douche leafspring usually have a garage full of gas burners in there collection.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 02, 2013 10:02 PM (FMbng)

571 Not to mention dudes like douche leafspring usually have a garage full of gas burners in there collection.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 03, 2013 02:02 AM (FMbng)


Of course. But they want all of us plebes off the roads, so they can cruise at 120 mph in solitary splendor.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 10:04 PM (8Fl6F)

572 If one had access to freon, what would it do to a modern AC unit? 

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:04 PM (CMlD4)

573 "...And the car's owner was quite pleased with my work, too."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

*golf clap*

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 10:04 PM (lq3Ak)

574 I call bullshit. I've only owned one of the cars on that list (the Cavalier, but mine was an 85, not an 82...not that there was much difference) and I've owned no less than 3 Mopar front wheel drives.
Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 03, 2013 01:57 AM

Were any of them K-Cars?

You know of course that the K stood for Kaboom, as the K-Car was the Kaboom Cereal of cars

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 10:08 PM (aTXUx)

575 If one had access to freon, what would it do to a modern AC unit?

When they went from Freon to R-134a, we were told the seals would leak.

Posted by: adams not an engineer porn at November 02, 2013 10:10 PM (R6JT1)

576 "You know of course that the K stood for Kaboom, as the K-Car was the Kaboom Cereal of cars.

Posted by: kbdabear

HaHaHa!  I'm picturing the steering-wheel looking like the haunted Lost-Souls of yore.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 10:11 PM (lq3Ak)

577 566 http://bit.ly/18OWBVD Posted by: The Dude at November 03, 2013 01:59 AM

What the fuck was THAT, Super-Shep?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 10:12 PM (aTXUx)

578 Carol T, I'm not upset with you, not one little bit. My last post was a joke. Gingy isn't either. Sleep well, prayers for your brother as always.

Posted by: Weirddave at November 02, 2013 10:12 PM (ifW8f)

579 If one had access to freon, what would it do to a modern AC unit?

When they went from Freon to R-134a, we were told the seals would leak.

--
Yeah, why?

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:12 PM (CMlD4)

580 My favorite is freon rockets. I got an old rocketry book once and it talked about freon rockets, and had pictures of everyone sitting in a circle around the thing as it launched. The book noted tha freon launches were cold, so you could get closer to the action. I'm betting the EPA director feels a little shudder every time someone even looks at the picture.

Posted by: .87c at November 02, 2013 10:13 PM (qZPXs)

581 97 The H2 is like the HQ with working links .

And Ampersands?

Posted by: bill-o at November 02, 2013 10:13 PM (AWwDY)

582 PJ O'Rourke called the 911 "that ass engined nazi slot car"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 10:14 PM (aTXUx)

583 "If one had access to freon, what would it do to a modern AC unit?"

-"When they went from Freon to R-134a, we were told the seals would leak."

--
Yeah, why?
Posted by: Jean

Seals always leak.  They are amongst the most unreliable of the aquatic-mammal community.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 10:15 PM (lq3Ak)

584 @582 Stop! You had me at Ass Engine!!

Posted by: Shep Smi..Er, Jones! at November 02, 2013 10:15 PM (E7Iyp)

585 My favorite is freon rockets. I got an old rocketry book once and it talked about freon rockets, and had pictures of everyone sitting in a circle around the thing as it launched. The book noted tha freon launches were cold, so you could get closer to the action.

I'm gonna try that.  (I use enough perflourocarbon tracers that the EPA has a hit team out looking for me, but big daddy DoD has my back.)

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:15 PM (CMlD4)

586 If one had access to freon, what would it do to a modern AC unit?

Posted by: Jean at November 03, 2013 02:04 AM (CMlD4)


NOT an A/C expert by any stretch of the imagination, but: Freon 12 would likely be incompatible with the "ester oil" used with HCFC134a refrigerant. I know they warn about incompatibility going the other way. Also the pressure switches and temp sensors in the system are chosen to match the performance characteristics of the 134a, and you would not get the best possible performance out of the Freon by using them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 10:16 PM (8Fl6F)

587 'Night all.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 02, 2013 10:16 PM (JawqV)

588 The H2 is like the HQ with working links .


And Ampersands?

Posted by: bill-o

Problem is the wordpress overhead doesnt work thru proy servers as cleanly as pixys old crap here does.  Lots of familiar faces over there

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:17 PM (CMlD4)

589 579 R-134 leaks 'cuz it's a smaller molecule

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:17 PM (b7yum)

590 "Also the pressure switches and temp sensors in the system are chosen to match the performance characteristics of the 134a, and you would not get the best possible performance out of the Freon by using them."

That I can see, blowing seals like Dam Neck Hooters girl I don't get.

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:18 PM (CMlD4)

591 Violets are blue, Roses are red, Still not finished with the cores, But exhausted ... so going to bed ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at November 02, 2013 10:18 PM (KoFMU)

592 589Same reason air leaks out of seals that hold water and other liquids

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:19 PM (b7yum)

593 Dave, no way mass production seals at that price point are that tolerant.

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:20 PM (CMlD4)

594 The Kaboom Car

http://tinyurl.com/lvlnerr

Somehow I can picture Ace as a boy slinking low in the back seat as his mother pulled up at a light next to a car with Apple Jacks kids in it. Then in an agonizing moment, the radio station would come on with an REO Speedwagon song

I've heard stories of kids in K-Car families begging mom to drop them off a few blocks from school so they wouldn't be seen getting out of it by the other kids

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 10:22 PM (aTXUx)

595 What the fuck was THAT, Super-Shep?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2013 02:12 AM (aTXUx)


that's actually supposed to be Tony Stark in the Kill la Kill (anime) costume

Posted by: The Dude at November 02, 2013 10:22 PM (vJdyz)

596 So I was talking to a nurse yesterday who told me that the lower number in your BP is the heart resting pressure, which would correspond to the suction side of your heart

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:22 PM (b7yum)

597 Seals are made from various kinds of synthetic rubber. Freon and 134a are solvents. Solvent resistance of rubber is a function of the rubber type and the solvent type. Wrong match, and seals could dry up and become hard, and leak; or swell up, become soft and sticky, adhere to the shaft, and then leak. Either way, you are hosed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 10:23 PM (8Fl6F)

598 Need some ideas: I recently picked up quite a lot of trim pieces such as quarter round, molding, dowels, and such. Free from a Craigslist ad. When I say quite a lot I mean: at least 1500 pieces of wood of all types ranging from 1/4" to 8" wide, and lengths of 1 foot to 16 feet. Most are in the 6- 10 foot range in length, at least 20 % are 12-16 feet. All except for a few are unpainted and no nails or nail holes. I'll use some in my house, some friends have agreed to take some for miscellaneous things in their houses, and what isn't useful will be burned. That leaves at least three metric shitloads of stuff. I am going to ask the dude who owns the picture frame shop nearby if he'll want any at a good price. I have no idea why I agreed to take it all. It's stuff that a carpenter collected over decades, who died recently, so his kids are getting rid of such things.

Posted by: model_1066 at November 02, 2013 10:23 PM (3OFnS)

599 Maybe Dave 86.5 vs 102 for r22.  But I would have thought they wouldn't have bothered to redesign the seals for a marginal issue

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:24 PM (CMlD4)

600

598: Wood stove

 

Posted by: RokShox at November 02, 2013 10:25 PM (8MMMw)

601 599 It's a fool who looks for logic in the chambers of the EPA's heart

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:26 PM (b7yum)

602 Wrong match, and seals could dry up and become hard, and leak; or swell up, become soft and sticky, adhere to the shaft, and then leak.

Well crap, Ive got lots of freon. have to settle for the freon rockets then.

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:27 PM (CMlD4)

603 601 Oil compatability makes better sense to me but we wrenchy-types only get the mushroom plan

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:28 PM (b7yum)

604 Someone once borrowed my little oil squirt can and put automatic transmission fluid in it for a rebuild. Its seals lasted only minutes afterwards.

Posted by: adams engine earl porn at November 02, 2013 10:28 PM (R6JT1)

605 603 Kept in the dark and fed a bunch...

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:28 PM (b7yum)

606 TPH @549 - Linked article doesn't seem to match your commentary. Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 03, 2013 02:00 AM (JawqV) Going to have to disagree. Take this one: "That girl you called a slut in class today. SheÂ’s had sex with more people than you consider appropriate." That isn't bullying. It is negative social feedback. If it is true, then it is an opinion and completely withing free speech. Perhaps by shaming people who are too loose (both men and women), society can at least in part dissuade them. That was always one way that society regulated itself. Take another example: "The old man you made fun of cause of the ugly scars. He got them from being a drug addict. " Having negative thoughts and utterances against a drug addict isn't a bad thing at all. But here's the hypocritical kicker: "But so fucking what? If anything, itÂ’s a reason to reexamine your own pathetically coercive, bigoted standards." Really? Someone being sexually promiscuous or a drug addict is beyond and above the reach of criticism? It is as if the only thing that is not acceptable to be or do is someone who thinks that is not acceptable to be or do anything. This is pure hypocrisy. It is doing to others what you criticize and condemn them of doing! The irony is that they are accusing the so-called bullies of doing what they theymselves are doing: Bashing those who refuse to fit into their acceptable norms.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 02, 2013 10:29 PM (Vk2pI)

607 604 don't understand that.  shouldn't be incompatible at all

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:30 PM (b7yum)

608 Question ..

Did Obama sign an executive order mandating that every other commercial use that Mumford and Sons "Home" song?

Hopefully Ace has a standing order that anyone who links to that song is to be banned with extreme prejudice

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 10:31 PM (aTXUx)

609 608 Incidentally we fixed the livin' SHIT outta a 2007 Colorado this week.  Marvel Mystery oil in the spark plug hole and cyl#2 compression went from 60 to 180 and stayed there

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:31 PM (b7yum)

610 609 Damnedest thing I ever saw really

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:32 PM (b7yum)

611 604 Someone once borrowed my little oil squirt can and put automatic transmission fluid in it for a rebuild. Its seals lasted only minutes afterwards. Posted by: adams engine earl porn at November 03, 2013 02:28 AM (R6JT1) I was told some older English cars used vegetable oil for brake fluid.....if you replaced it w/regular fluid it would dissolve the cylinder seals....don't know if that's true.

Posted by: BignJames at November 02, 2013 10:33 PM (j7iSn)

612 that's actually supposed to be Tony Stark in the Kill la Kill (anime) costume Posted by: The Dude at November 03, 2013 02:22 AM (vJdyz) KILL la KILL also had a Pulp Fiction cameo: http://tinyurl.com/myna4w8

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at November 02, 2013 10:33 PM (Vk2pI)

613 REAL Freon 12 or 22 is better than GOLD!

Look on Craigslist, its outrageous what they want per pound!

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 10:34 PM (E7Iyp)

614 "Then in an agonizing moment, the radio station would come on with an REO Speedwagon song."
Posted by: kbdabear

Sir...

As a fan of yours and REO's, simultaneously, I can no longer endure your one-time disparagement of REO Speedwagon.  Henceforth, I will apply a mental astreisk next to your musical favorabilities.

I am a reactionary individual who thinks that he world would be better if Lou Reed had hanged himself at a young age.

You, Sir, are irresponsible, audacious, feckless, inconsiderate and uncaring.

-May your next car be a General Motors product.

Posted by: Guy Who Thinks His Tunes Are Best at November 02, 2013 10:34 PM (lq3Ak)

615 ATF is serious stuff to clutches.

Posted by: adams AAMC-OW porn at November 02, 2013 10:34 PM (R6JT1)

616 609 Damnedest thing I ever saw really

Posted by: DAve at November 03, 2013 02:32 AM (b7yum)


Sounds like you had a stuck valve, and the MMO fixed it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 10:34 PM (8Fl6F)

617 @609 hopefully it was just a stuck ring thats come loose and reseated properly.

Keep an eye on it tho. it may stick again.

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 10:35 PM (E7Iyp)

618 608 Question .. Did Obama sign an executive order mandating that every other commercial use that Mumford and Sons "Home" song? Hopefully Ace has a standing order that anyone who links to that song is to be banned with extreme prejudice Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2013 02:31 AM (aTXUx) At first I thought you meant this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WqazleR3FE

Posted by: model_1066 at November 02, 2013 10:35 PM (3OFnS)

619 Yeah, I thought valve for a sec too, but its harder to get MMO to go UP. Tho I guess its possible.

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 10:36 PM (E7Iyp)

620 616  Stuck ring imo.  New low-tension rings don't like it when you don't change your oil.  Took all the other cylinders from 120 to 180

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:36 PM (b7yum)

621 REAL Freon 12 or 22 is better than GOLD!

Look on Craigslist, its outrageous what they want per pound!
Posted by: JarvisW

I get mine from an Army refrigerant plant.  They are kinda suspicious about my order quantities.

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:37 PM (CMlD4)

622 I was told some older English cars used vegetable oil for brake fluid.....if you replaced it w/regular fluid it would dissolve the cylinder seals....don't know if that's true. Posted by: BignJames at November 03, 2013 02:33 AM

British cars leaked oil and fluids so profusely that it wouldn't have mattered if you put Mountain Dew in there

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 10:38 PM (aTXUx)

623 621 ah gotcha..

Rockets it is then!

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 10:38 PM (E7Iyp)

624 Stisky valve like that would eat the cam lobe, no?

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:38 PM (b7yum)

625 Sparking lively freon debates since 1997,

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 10:39 PM (lq3Ak)

626 Yeah, my dads MGBs didn't leak oil. They marked their territory

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 10:39 PM (E7Iyp)

627 621 ah gotcha..

Rockets it is then!
Posted by: JarvisW

I've also got these little LOX bottles ....

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:39 PM (CMlD4)

628 re 611: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/hydraulics/ht115.htm

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 10:40 PM (8Fl6F)

629 Are you engine guys aware of what Moog is doing with hydraulics in aircraft?  They have designed small self-contained hydraulic actuators.  So you get the power curve of hydraulics with the integration simplicity of an electric part.  No lines or reservoirs.

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:44 PM (CMlD4)

630 628 Hey AOP can I move to Canada if a have multiple degrees and my mom was Canadian?

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:44 PM (b7yum)

631 Stisky valve like that would eat the cam lobe, no?

Posted by: DAve at November 03, 2013 02:38 AM (b7yum)

A valve stuck shut could eat the cam lobe, or bend a push rod; seen that happen. A valve stuck open just clatters or snaps. Depends a lot upon engine design what results. I have a Studebaker V8 on the go right now with one or two sticky valves in the right bank. Every so often, there's a loud snap as one of the sticky ones belatedly closes at idle. But the problem is going away; less each time the engine is started and warmed up. Oil is working its way through the guides again, after a 30-odd year idle period.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 10:46 PM (8Fl6F)

632 631 Marvel Mystery Oil.  I'm a believer now

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:47 PM (b7yum)

633 Hey AOP can I move to Canada if a have multiple degrees and my mom was Canadian?

If you speak Arabic, Chinese, or Hindu -  I think they have a special line for you at the consulate.

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:47 PM (CMlD4)

634 As a fan of yours and REO's, simultaneously, I can no longer endure your one-time disparagement of REO Speedwagon. Henceforth, I will apply a mental astreisk next to your musical favorabilities.


Posted by: Guy Who Thinks His Tunes Are Best at November 03, 2013 02:34 AM


REO had this album cover, so they weren't ALL bad


http://tinyurl.com/lzoeky2


Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 10:48 PM (aTXUx)

635 Have a Blessed Evening!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 10:49 PM (lq3Ak)

636 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 03, 2013 02:40 AM (8Fl6F) "Girling Fluid"....gotta love those Brits.

Posted by: BignJames at November 02, 2013 10:49 PM (j7iSn)

637 628 Hey AOP can I move to Canada if a have multiple degrees and my mom was Canadian?

Posted by: DAve at November 03, 2013 02:44 AM (b7yum)


Probably. Helps if you fake a Pakistani accent.



Seriously, if you can find employment in your field, the hiring company could probably arrange a work visa. Lots of "Help Wanted" signs on the fences in the oilfield service industries here. Welders, machinists, assemblers, mechanics, etc.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 10:49 PM (8Fl6F)

638 Welders, machinists, assemblers, hookers , mechanics, etc.

Posted by: Jean at November 02, 2013 10:50 PM (CMlD4)

639 637  4 generations in CA. but I'm not sure I can make it 5.

Posted by: DAve at November 02, 2013 10:51 PM (b7yum)

640 A coworker once postulated that a mechanic is a form of hooker because he loses his own flesh for the satisfaction of the metal beast he services.

Posted by: adams scars porn at November 02, 2013 10:53 PM (R6JT1)

641 Well, off to bed. Got to set my clock back, too. Fortunately, that's an easy job on an analog clock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2013 10:53 PM (8Fl6F)

642 Marvel Mystery Oil. I'm a believer now

Posted by: DAve at November 03, 2013 02:47 AM (b7yum)


I stick a little in the cylinders of harley motors that sat for a few years, let it hang out for a bit, then crank it over with no plugs to get everything coated in there, then add another small squirt and stick the plugs in and let the compression push it through the rings. Sometimes they get surface rust on the rings and they get a little sticky in the ring grooves. That marvel mystery oil is the shit, the motors always fire up nice.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 02, 2013 10:55 PM (FMbng)

643 4 generations in CA. but I'm not sure I can make it 5. Posted by: DAve at November 03, 2013 02:51 AM (b7yum) Escape while you can. As another multi-generational now-former Californian, I strongly suggest it.

Posted by: Fools' Golden Hat at November 02, 2013 10:55 PM (Vk2pI)

644 626 Yeah, my dads MGBs didn't leak oil. They marked their territory
Posted by: JarvisW at November 03, 2013 02:39 AM

There were probably larger oil reserves in any given British Leyland dealer lot than in Saudi Arabia

At least the oil leaks were predictable. Remember that BL cars were wired by Lucas Electric


Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 10:55 PM (aTXUx)

645 Lucas means "Spawn of the Devil" in Leyland speak

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 10:57 PM (E7Iyp)

646 Lucas means "Spawn of the Devil" in Leyland speak

Posted by: JarvisW at November 03, 2013 02:57 AM (E7Iyp)


I though lucas was the prince of darkness.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 02, 2013 11:00 PM (FMbng)

647 645 Lucas means "Spawn of the Devil" in Leyland speak
Posted by: JarvisW at November 03, 2013 02:57 AM

I think it was "Lord of Darkness"

Why do the British drink warm beer?

Lucas wires their refrigerators too

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 11:01 PM (aTXUx)

648 um....Thought

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 02, 2013 11:01 PM (FMbng)

649 His 68 wasn't so bad, but it rusted away. (and that was #2 or 3) then he got a '78 and HOLY CRAP WHAT A POS!!!

He put a pertronics ignition in it and that helped, but the engine harness was freekin brittle and kept coming loose. Especially at the fuse box, the connectors, AND the fuses!

It lost the rear main and sat a few years before someone from up north saw it in the drive while visiting his relatives. He bought it for like $1200 took it back and restored it for his wife. (I think it was only worth $500 at the time too, but hes used to rustbuckets from the north lol)

COMPLETE REWIRING! of course lol

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 11:02 PM (E7Iyp)

650 Why do the British drink warm beer?

Lucas wires their refrigerators too

Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2013 03:01 AM (aTXUx)


Thats funny shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at November 02, 2013 11:02 PM (FMbng)

651 lol yeah, Lucas was MUCH worse than Damon the Omen...

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 11:03 PM (E7Iyp)

652 Quality Assurance phoned and advised the Lucas engineering guy that they had trouble with his design shorting out. So he made the wires longer.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 11:03 PM (aTXUx)

653 Lucas Electric jokes

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~mtmorris/index3.html

Posted by: kbdabear at November 02, 2013 11:04 PM (aTXUx)

654 Yeah, I'm gonna tell to my dad that tomorrow!

He still kinda misses it, but we are deep into rebuilding his Del Sol, and he knows to never get a UNION controlled factory MG again!

BTW anyone see the Top Gear UK tribute to MG? Clarkson compared the car unions to communists quite a lot, and put the blame on no UK auto industry squarely on them!

Freekin GREAT!

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 11:06 PM (E7Iyp)

655 though
thought
thorough
through
throughout

Latin, spare us this barbaric tongue!

Posted by: adams decline that shit porn at November 02, 2013 11:07 PM (R6JT1)

656 BTW, we still got an oil pan gasket and clutch cable for the 78 mg if anyone wants..

Eventually will put it on Ebay or something I guess lol

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 11:11 PM (E7Iyp)

657 If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either.

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 11:13 PM (E7Iyp)

658 Lucas is an acronym for Loose Unsoldered Connections and Splices.

TRUE!!

Posted by: JarvisW at November 02, 2013 11:13 PM (E7Iyp)

659 Night all. Here is "I Wanna Rock" by Twisted Sister: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRwrg0db_zY

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 02, 2013 11:17 PM (Vk2pI)

660 Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto #1, with Martha Argerich making sweet love to those ivories:

http://youtu.be/ItSJ_woWnmk?t=35s

Posted by: adams deuces porn at November 02, 2013 11:38 PM (R6JT1)

661 "...though
thought
thorough
through
throughout

Latin, spare us this barbaric tongue!"Posted by: adams decline that shit porn at November 03, 2013 03:07 AM (R6JT1)

Though I'd "signed off", I thought something through.

After thorough thought?

I've been correct throughout.


Posted by: Slapweasel at November 02, 2013 11:48 PM (lq3Ak)

662 Stay with the cat videos.

Posted by: Spike 10,023 at November 02, 2013 11:49 PM (8bU/P)

663 Were any of them K-Cars?

You know of course that the K stood for Kaboom, as the K-Car was the Kaboom Cereal of cars

Posted by: kbdabear at November 03, 2013 02:08 AM (aTXUx)



Sorry, took a break to discuss mounting a scope on a Type 30 Arisaka.



Yes, the last one was an Aries K station wagon, the second of the two types of cars I owned after swearing that I never would (the first being a minivan, incidentally also a FWD Dodge, bought a few years prior to the Aries). As it turns out I made out big on the Aries, it was a POS that I paid $125 for and had about $850 in before totaling it. The insurance company gave me $1300 for it. The van went to my daughter in FL, she sold it after driving it for a few years and AFAIK it is still roaming the north Florida highways and byways.

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 02, 2013 11:51 PM (yh0zB)

664 or perhaps that should say...haunting the north FL highways and byways...

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 02, 2013 11:53 PM (yh0zB)

665 thank god, finally done with the gaming thread

Posted by: The Dude at November 02, 2013 11:58 PM (vJdyz)

666 "thank god, finally done with the gaming thread."
Posted by: The Dude

Thanks!

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 12:01 AM (lq3Ak)

667 damn...and Slappy slides into the coveted NOtB post...

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 03, 2013 12:15 AM (yh0zB)

668 @667 And the worst part is that it was totally by accident!

Posted by: Old Dog at November 03, 2013 12:17 AM (tQYJH)

669 There aren't that many "Pro-Life" songs out there.  This one rocks.

http://tinyurl.com/n5d73po

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 12:20 AM (lq3Ak)

670 Post #66* + 4:20 AM; last post = Balance.

+Anti-Abortion tune.
+Prayers.

-minus drunken chicanery.
-minus crass tomfoolery.

I think this is above my pay-grade.

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 12:33 AM (lq3Ak)

671 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFBt6QTgcPY

Now I'm just fishing for Ohioans.

THE Ohio State University ain't got the Best Damn Band in the Land because "we say so".
Proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFBt6QTgcPY

Space Invaders, Pokemon, Tetris.  All in formation.

They then jam "Mario Brothers".  BDBitL


Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 12:57 AM (lq3Ak)

672 Yup.  It is that time of night.

Red, Red Wine:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXt56MB-3vc

Posted by: Slapweasel at November 03, 2013 01:40 AM (lq3Ak)

673 weaselzippers.us/2013/11/02/reddit-politics-bans-weasel-zippers/

Should we morons be offended?

Posted by: JarvisW at November 03, 2013 01:46 AM (E7Iyp)

674 Hmmm, just woke up and got coffee. Time stamp on JarvisW's last says 5:46. Is teh HQ being rebellious and not recognizing DST? Did my fone automatically set itself? Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?

Posted by: teej at November 03, 2013 02:02 AM (d4o2E)

675 When I was walking down the street one day...

A man came up to me and asked me what the time was on my watch oh ho

and i don't think Pixys clock works like ours do.

Posted by: JarvisW at November 03, 2013 02:04 AM (E7Iyp)

676 Should we morons be offended? Posted by: JarvisW Not at all. Look at the list. Minx.cc is on there. My brain's gone haywire. Wide awake at what is really and officially a Quarter of Four when I've been aiming at sleeping 'til Seven. Try to go back to sleep, or get dressed and start the coffee? I went with the latter. So, Good Morning!

Posted by: mindful webworker's brain has no sense of time at November 03, 2013 02:04 AM (Ynbgq)

677 I haven't been to sleep yet, I have to stay up at least until 8 so I can sleep today and work tonight.

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 03, 2013 02:06 AM (yh0zB)

678 676 ah, takes care of Ace and Jawa then..

Still, messing with Reddit might be fun for some...

Posted by: JarvisW at November 03, 2013 02:07 AM (E7Iyp)

679 I don't see a comment that's an hour earlier than the previous one. Wonder how Pixy handles DST.

Posted by: mindful webworker's brain is a wonderful thing at November 03, 2013 02:14 AM (wPzgV)

680 Mic check

Posted by: teej at November 03, 2013 02:19 AM (/BwGa)

681 teej: can't hear you. crank it to 11.

Posted by: mindful webworker's brain is a wonderful thing at November 03, 2013 02:20 AM (wPzgV)

682
645 Lucas means "Spawn of the Devil" in Leyland speak
Posted by: JarvisW

Back when I was Willy Newman's Chief Mechanic we referred to "Lucas electrics" and "Smith electrics" as "The Prince of Darkness...."

Posted by: backhoe at November 03, 2013 02:22 AM (ULH4o)

683 My stupid Android phone has no setting for Arizona so, I have to manually switch between PDT and MST every damn time. So much for super smart phone EH?

Posted by: Old Dog at November 03, 2013 02:25 AM (tQYJH)

684 Yep, that was cleared up lol.. check the link on Lucas jokes

Night all!

Posted by: JarvisW at November 03, 2013 02:25 AM (E7Iyp)

685 Hate it when my fone hits that stinking banned IP. Anyone on a computer with decent speakers and feels like checking recording quality on a song for me? I think it was done in home studio and I haven't heard it yet. My boys wouldn't put junk out but I could use an unbiased opinion before I start sending a bunch of folks there. At my nic and bottom left of page. "Waiting for Angels". Free listen/download. Be honest, and brutal if necessary. Thanks.

Posted by: teej at November 03, 2013 02:28 AM (h1gQR)

686 Always funny to me when alleged or self-described Constitutional conservatives don't see the fingers of unConstitutional governance for what they are. Welfare, prohibitionism, public transportation, government schools, so broadly accepted, tolerated, even expected, by ignorant citizens, are all creeping (sometimes hustling) socialism. So, please help stop tyranny - Sign the Petition to Get Government out of our Clocks! End Daylight Savings Time! Y'know, as long as I'm tilting at windmills, Repeal Time Zone Designations altogether! Bring back God's accurate Local Time!

Posted by: mindful webworker - Repeal! Repeal! Repeal DST! at November 03, 2013 02:35 AM (5SlKF)

687 Y'know, as long as I'm tilting at windmills, Repeal Time Zone Designations altogether! Bring back God's accurate Local Time!

Posted by: mindful webworker - Repeal! Repeal! Repeal DST! at November 03, 2013 06:35 AM (5SlKF)



Trivia question, do you know why time zones were implemented?

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 03, 2013 02:47 AM (yh0zB)

688 @687 So the railroads could have standard schedules!

Posted by: Old Dog at November 03, 2013 02:48 AM (tQYJH)

689 I don't know mw. The last three times I signed something...

Posted by: teej at November 03, 2013 02:48 AM (h1gQR)

690 So the railroads could have standard schedules!

Posted by: Old Dog at November 03, 2013 06:48 AM (tQYJH)



We have a winner folks! It was indeed so the railroads could have standard schedules and therefore prevent embarrassing episodes...like running into each other.

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 03, 2013 02:52 AM (yh0zB)

691 And here I thought it was so the farmers could have more evening daylight.

Posted by: teej at November 03, 2013 02:53 AM (xhr2b)

692 What old dog said - train schedules. IIRC And DST was instituted to save on whale oil. Local time would be a hoot. Totally possible now, with digital linked-up clocks that know where they are. But then, then, after the EMPs.... That reminds me: I have three house and one auto clock to adjust. The pickup's clock was always on Standard Time. Because I can't not adjust my wristwatch anymore, since I quit wearing one, I resist tyranny in the truck.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Repeal! Repeal! Repeal DST! at November 03, 2013 02:55 AM (u57y4)

693 And here I thought it was so the farmers could have more evening daylight.

Posted by: teej at November 03, 2013 06:53 AM (xhr2b)



Time zones, not DST.

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 03, 2013 02:57 AM (yh0zB)

694 The pickup's clock was always on Standard Time. Because I can't not adjust my wristwatch anymore, since I quit wearing one, I resist tyranny in the truck.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Repeal! Repeal! Repeal DST! at November 03, 2013 06:55 AM (u57y4)



damn...didn't think of the car clocks...

Posted by: GGE @ GGE_Horde at November 03, 2013 02:58 AM (yh0zB)

695 I think I like my old sock better.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 03, 2013 03:00 AM (yh0zB)

696 We are on DST 8 months a year. Why not increase it to year round DST?

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 03, 2013 03:01 AM (Kud5A)

697 Well, I'm outta here folks. Just downloaded the latest from Marko Kloos so I'm off to read it.


Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 03, 2013 03:01 AM (yh0zB)

698 "We are on DST 8 months a year. Why not increase it to year round DST?" See? This is what I meant back in #686. GGE: oh, that GGE! I hadn't recognized you!

Posted by: mindful webworker - Repeal! Repeal! Repeal DST! at November 03, 2013 03:04 AM (u57y4)

699 #691

A DST myth. Livestock doesn't care what the clock says. If the sun is rising, so are they and the workday begins.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 03, 2013 03:04 AM (kcfmt)

700 "Livestock doesn't care what the clock says." Sure they do! Why, when I asked the fellah who rents the pasture about it, he said you adjust the cattle by winding their tails. Clockwise in the Spring...

Posted by: mindful webworker - Repeal! Repeal! Repeal DST! at November 03, 2013 03:08 AM (u57y4)

701 I've never livestock wear a wristwatch.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 03, 2013 03:09 AM (Kud5A)

702 701 seen. I must use verbs.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 03, 2013 03:10 AM (Kud5A)

703 Verbs? Overrated.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Repeal! Repeal! Repeal DST! at November 03, 2013 03:13 AM (u57y4)

704 Today in my church tradition it is All Saints Sunday in which we celebrate those who have gone to be with the Lord who were examples of faith and, love . This hymn has words written by St Francis of Assisi and is set to some beautiful pictures: http://tinyurl.com/kagn6g9 And here are some words of a more contemporary Saint Padre Pio who was canonized around 1992: Do not anticipate apprehension, but rather a a perfect hope that God, to whom you belong, will free you from them accordingly. He has defended you up till now. Simply hold on tightly to the hand of Divine Providence and He will help you in all events, and when you are unable to walk He Will lead you. "Why should you fear when you belong to God who strongly assured us, "We know that in everything God works for those that love Him?" Don't think about tomorrow's events, because the same heavenly F who takes care of you today will do the same tomorrow and forever. Live tranquilly, removing from your imagination that which upsets you and often say to the Lord: "Oh, God, you are my God and I will trust in you. You will assist me and be my refuge, and I will fear nothing"...What can I child fear in the arms of his Father." Grace and peace.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 03, 2013 03:19 AM (23Kgq)

705 All of my clocks are under big brother's control.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 03, 2013 03:21 AM (Kud5A)

706 I leave every light in the house on year round. Can't they just leave the sun on 24 hours a day?

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 03, 2013 03:27 AM (Kud5A)

707 They just had the stupidest bitch on Fox News.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at November 03, 2013 03:28 AM (Kud5A)

708 "He has defended you up till now. Simply hold on tightly...." The only way I can make it through the day.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Repeal! Repeal! Repeal DST! at November 03, 2013 03:31 AM (Bfbpz)

709 battery going and so must I. Be of good cheer. it's not a suggestion. it's a divine exhortation.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Repeal! Repeal! Repeal DST! at November 03, 2013 03:32 AM (Bfbpz)

710 God bless you, web worker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 03, 2013 03:34 AM (23Kgq)

711 #706

Actually, they do. It's the way they keep spinning your part of the planet away from the light that is the problem.

Posted by: Epobirs at November 03, 2013 03:42 AM (kcfmt)

712 Interesting. Pixy seems not to have reset the HQ clock, as it's showing post #711 as coming at 7:42.

Or are all y'all livin' in the future?

(P.S.) My computer has the right time. I checked.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 03, 2013 03:45 AM (kaGpp)

713 Got a glimpse of the partial eclipse. Pretty cool.

Posted by: jsg at November 03, 2013 03:52 AM (sb26u)

714 Some clouds on the horizon, but could still see the sun well and the clouds help make my pictures more dramatic. As I was about finished with pictures a guy drove up to launch a boat, and asked why all the people were there, pretty good crowd for 6:30 AM on a Sunday. Report from SE Virginia

Posted by: Fredlike at November 03, 2013 04:57 AM (rF/yy)

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