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March 14, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (3-14-2013)
— Maetenloch

Due to flight cancellations and a confluence of events tonight's ONT will be ~~minimal~~ lean and mean. So everyone play nicely while I head out to retrieve Mrs. Maetenloch.

In California Even Holes Are Protected

Kafka + the famous CS Lewis quote = the California Coastal Commission.

Who Are These People?

There's about 8-10% of NRA members who seem very confused about what gun rights mean or just weren't paying attention. Can there be that many Michael Moores?

92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via mandatory buy-back laws.
91% of NRA members support laws keeping firearms away from the mentally ill.
89% oppose banning semi-automatic firearms, often mistakenly called "assault rifles".
93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to register with the federal government.
92% oppose a new federal law banning the sale of firearms between private citizens.

How Not To Broaden the Base and Attract Voters

It's one thing to oppose gay marriage and whatever homosexual activists are pushing and then there's just plain old gay hate. And Cliff Kincaid of AIM sure seems to have a lot of energy when it comes to hating the gheys and wanting to root them out of the conservative movement.

Reason #83 why Republicans have a branding problem among the non-elderly.

Did Airline Deregulation Work?

Yep.

Does Obama Have a Food taster?

Apparently so. And in fact most presidents have them.

No Unauthorized Photos of Joey B Allowed

So Why Doesn't the US Navy Have Its Own Fleet of Attack Dolphins?

The Last Angel of Bataan

Can Cats See Optical Illusions?

Scandalous Scandis: Church Gave Swedish Teens a 'Sex Diploma'

So is there a learners permit for your 'license to shag'?

Yahoo group. That is all.

And my Twitter spew.

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1 the president is a scoamf and snarky bear is the catpiss troll

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 05:07 PM (GVxQo)

2 Early

Posted by: ersta mahn at March 14, 2013 05:09 PM (QupBk)

3 that last bit was good. War on womyn indeed.

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 05:09 PM (Dnbau)

4 So the ignorant dirty barbaric savage ped-worshipper is a lousy shot, to boot.

Posted by: USS Diversity at March 14, 2013 05:10 PM (+bZOu)

5 American feminists unavailable for comment

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 05:10 PM (Dnbau)

6 But all cultures are equal you xenophobe!!!elevnty!!

Posted by: Your average leftie [/i] [/b] at March 14, 2013 05:13 PM (UCv7P)

7 Evening everyone! I'm avoiding doing my expense report so I need you all to entertain me.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 14, 2013 05:13 PM (DsPRa)

Well, Joe Biden really is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Barack Obama is a malevolent statist who has little respect for the rights of individuals. He is certainly not failing (yet) in his efforts to "fundamentally transform" the United States. His transformations may indeed fade away, but after all, we all fade away eventually.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 14, 2013 05:13 PM (Md8Uo)

9 The Sheriff is near!

Posted by: toby928© presents at March 14, 2013 05:13 PM (QupBk)

10 Evening everyone! I'm avoiding doing my expense report Dance, monkey. Dance.

Posted by: The Accounting Department at March 14, 2013 05:14 PM (6wtM2)

11 Stop with the bullshit that we are all a bunch of bigots.

Posted by: waldo truth at March 14, 2013 05:14 PM (3VhRQ)

Those 8-10% of NRA members who are unclear about the reach of the 2nd Amendment?

Sockpuppets. Or mimes.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 14, 2013 05:15 PM (Md8Uo)

13 prolly 8-10 per cent on the range and didn't answer the damn survey

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 05:15 PM (Dnbau)

14 Education is a privilege

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 05:16 PM (I88Jc)

15 But, but, but Mitt Romney is going to outlaw tampons!! Binders of women! Yaaaargh!

Posted by: N.O.W. at March 14, 2013 05:16 PM (0/zfR)

16 >Those 8-10% of NRA members who are unclear about the reach of the 2nd Amendment? They joined for the complimentary NRA totebag

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 05:16 PM (8sCoq)

17 Happy Thursday! I think i saw the comet last night for a few minutes ...

Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 14, 2013 05:17 PM (TvO05)

18 Forget that Malala chick, check out this photo of my hoochie.
Now THAT's brave and empowering.

Posted by: N.O.W. at March 14, 2013 05:17 PM (0/zfR)

19 Regarding the changes in air fares:

When I flew to West Berlin in 1967, the fare on Pan American was almost $500.

That is $3426 in 2013 dollars.

I remember the cost because I had to work for almost 4 months at a department store to get enough money for the ticket.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 14, 2013 05:19 PM (GoIUi)

20 That's a nice comic.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 14, 2013 05:19 PM (hO8IJ)

21 Helen Thomas unavailable for comment

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 05:20 PM (Dnbau)

22 The 8-10% is not even a "no response" factor -- that's the number that "strongly" or "totally" support the new laws. I think it is safe to assume that 8-10% of the NRA is legally blind, demented, or retarded.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2013 05:20 PM (76Gx5)

23 Forget that Malala chick, check out this photo of my hoochie. Now THAT's brave and empowering. Posted by: N.O.W. at March 14, 2013 09:17 PM (0/zfR) ------------------------------------------------------ I am ALL IN for hair pie!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 14, 2013 05:21 PM (jucos)

24 Cliff from AIM seems not to know that homosexuality predates Marxism. In addition, he thinks decriminalization of homosexuality was a big mistake. He also doesn't allow comments. Me, I don't care what consenting adults do with and to each other when I'm not around. Don't. Care. I'm a Christian, yes, and admittedly maybe not a very good one, but I lean toward the Leave People The Hell Alone school of political thought. If there are gay people who believe in the primacy of individual freedom, limited government and free markets, I want them on my side. There are hard times coming. We need all the allies we can get.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2013 05:21 PM (ptcFO)

That 8-11% is partly made up of Fudds. The other half are those that are all for handguns, but not refles or vise versa.

I've run itno each type.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 05:22 PM (iOny9)

26 Ashley Judd unavailable for comment. Eating Pi.

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 05:22 PM (Dnbau)

27 Oh no. Truck Monkey back again to push the hair pie. You almost got me in trouble.

Posted by: Ronster at March 14, 2013 05:23 PM (pDjY6)

"Did Airline Deregulation Work? Yep."

Now if they could only save themselves from piss poor management and unions.

Posted by: Dario Franchitti at March 14, 2013 05:23 PM (Fz2C7)

29 sock

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 05:24 PM (Fz2C7)

Tilikum @ 25

Yeah, I had a friend once who really loved rifles. Restored a couple of Mosin's and old Enfields. But thought people shouldn't have pistols. Really.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 14, 2013 05:24 PM (Md8Uo)

31 It's a big big tent and we need someone to interior decorate it.

Posted by: grease monkey at March 14, 2013 05:24 PM (VSWPU)

32 Based on that last Dario must be a conservative, must've broken up the marriage

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 05:24 PM (Dnbau)

33 Cliff Kincaid is an embarrassment. He argues essentially that "Bradley Manning is gay. Bradley manning is a traitor. Ergo, gays cannot be conservative." But I'm sure he gets lots of approving nods from the HotAir commentators.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2013 05:24 PM (76Gx5)

34 Hair- pie (smiling)

Posted by: Takashi- Nerd at March 14, 2013 05:24 PM (iOny9)

35 Ashley Judd may be guilty of too much circular reasoning.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 14, 2013 05:25 PM (Md8Uo)

36 Cliff from AIM seems to be a lunatic. Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2013 09:21 PM (ptcFO) Summarized for you. Anyone talking about re-criminalizing homosexuality is someone begging to get 5% of the national vote. When you go that far in the other direction "resisiting" the gay agenda, you sound as ridiculous as the very thing you are trying to stop.

Posted by: CAC at March 14, 2013 05:25 PM (p7Xiw)

37 Malala looks white.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 14, 2013 05:25 PM (UrENZ)

38 not TNR white

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 05:25 PM (Dnbau)

39 but hey- at least he's "pure", so he can get that sense of smug self-satisfaction about that.

Posted by: CAC at March 14, 2013 05:26 PM (p7Xiw)

40 Tonight's open thread brought to you by this classic musical tour-de-force that you should immediately put on in the background as you read this open thread tonight:

http://tinyurl.com/bhrgyp6

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, by Genesis. You know, back when they were acceptably 'cool' because Peter Gabriel was still with the band. I seriously dare anyone in this thread to open that link in a new tab (it's YouTube) and just start with the first song, and tell me it's really shit. It ain't. It's a deeply compelling, hugely disturbing, but also compulsively melodic Freudian/Jungian fever dream.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 05:26 PM (/COnL)

41 There's about 8-10% of NRA members who seem very confused

Which would put neatly under the 10% Rule.

The 10% RuleÂ™:
10% of any given population is fucked in the nut.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 14, 2013 05:26 PM (UCv7P)

42 >>>In California Even Holes Are Protected Yep, that mandatory condom law is killing the pr0n industry.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2013 05:26 PM (76Gx5)

43 hi all
wow, malala is one tough broad

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 05:27 PM (BBWjt)

44 Poor girl that she has to live in a country where she can't get an abortion on demand. Once Afghanistan has that, the women will truly be free.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the poster formerly known as MrCaniac at March 14, 2013 05:28 PM (Zd/NW)

but but.... America is a downright mean country, .....right Malala??

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 05:29 PM (Dnbau)

46 I ate no pie tonight. I got no steak.....you know the rest

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at March 14, 2013 05:29 PM (XvrTA)

47 The 10% RuleÂ™: 10% of any given population is fucked in the nut. Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 14, 2013 09:26 PM (UCv7P) Explains the people who opposed military action after 9/11, who reject the bill of rights, oppose interracial marriages, and think Nickelback is a good band.

Posted by: CAC at March 14, 2013 05:30 PM (p7Xiw)

48 I think that if I had a choice of living in Shitcanistan or being aborted that I would have to go with being aborted.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 14, 2013 05:30 PM (jucos)

49 Got hair pie!

Posted by: Takashi- Nerd at March 14, 2013 05:30 PM (iOny9)

50 7 Evening everyone! I'm avoiding doing my expense report so I need you all to entertain me.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 14, 2013 09:13 PM (DsPRa)

okay, here ya go

http://tinyurl.com/gpzf

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 05:31 PM (BBWjt)

51 Why didn't the van driver just run over that Taliban prick?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 14, 2013 05:32 PM (r9IFY)

52 I just have to say. There are tons of fluff MFM articles about Moochelle's 50th Birthday (who will be performing etc. etc.). IT"S 10 FUCKING MONTHS AWAY. Marie Antionette would be ashamed. Vanity itself would blush. can't take it

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at March 14, 2013 05:32 PM (XvrTA)

53 That 10%? The Dems who belong to the NRA. They will do whatever their masters in the White House or Congress tell them to do, thus they are all in for all the registering shit.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the poster formerly known as MrCaniac at March 14, 2013 05:32 PM (Zd/NW)

54 someone needs to photoshop the scoamf with a mustache

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 05:32 PM (GVxQo)

55 Kincaid at AIM says, "There is no such thing as a Â“gay conservative,Â” unless the term Â“conservativeÂ” has lost all meaning" Shh... nobody tell him Allan Bloom was gay. Seriously, how does a love of man ass negate all other political views? You might as well say, "there is no such thing as a chubby chaser conservative" -- because we all know that fat chicks are an abomination to both skinny Jesus and the laws of Kepplerian physics.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2013 05:33 PM (76Gx5)

56 The bubble-wrap app is in 35 languages!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 14, 2013 05:33 PM (UrENZ)

Ok, pedant mode on. (Sorry, I'm Pavlov's dog and the bell just rang.)

The Bible, both Old and New Testaments, condemns homosexuality. It condemns adultery and fornication, too. If we're going after the gays, we need to go after anyone who has had pre- or extra- marital sex, too.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 14, 2013 05:34 PM (0R/EW)

58 30 Tilikum @ 25 Yeah, I had a friend once who really loved rifles. Restored a couple of Mosin's and old Enfields. But thought people shouldn't have pistols. Really. That's an Army POV. Ordinary Joes are too stupid to have handguns, they will just hurt themselves or shoot some stripper when drunk. Personal firearm ownership is frowned upon for the young'uns.

Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 05:34 PM (VRCBg)

Malala looks white.

Most of the Middle East is "white." Arabs were for a long time classified as Caucasian, IIRC - remember that for the longest time "Arab" meant a beduin from the Arabian Peninsula, and most of the "Syrians" (non-turkish, non-Kurdish, non-Iranian, non-Jew, etc) would have been highly insulted to be called Arabs just because they spoke Arabic. That only changed with the onset of Arab nationalism post-World War I.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 05:35 PM (P7nGQ)

60 Yeah, I had a friend once who really loved rifles. Restored a couple of Mosin's and old Enfields. But thought people shouldn't have pistols. Really.

That's an Army POV. Ordinary Joes are too stupid to have handguns, they will just hurt themselves or shoot some stripper when drunk. Personal firearm ownership is frowned upon for the young'uns.

Posted by: Jean

***

Thank you. That's what I have encountered.

Posted by: Takashi- Nerd at March 14, 2013 05:35 PM (iOny9)

61 "I remember the cost because I had to work for almost 4 months at a department store to get enough money for the ticket."

And after deregulation the airline industry decided to go the other way, lowering prices to the point that none of them are making make any money. They're fucking idiots.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 05:36 PM (Fz2C7)

62 >>>Shh... nobody tell him Allan Bloom was gay.

Or, for that matter, Whittaker fuckin' Chambers. You know, one of the co-founders of National Review and one of the three leading intellectual lights (in collaboration with Bill Buckley and Frank Meyer) behind the modern conservative movement.

But yeah, he was really just an insidious civilization-destroyin' queer.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 05:36 PM (/COnL)

40: It's a deeply compelling, hugely disturbing, but also compulsively melodic Freudian/Jungian fever dream.

Jeff B., I love you man, but it's only rock and roll. And I like it.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 14, 2013 05:36 PM (0R/EW)

#40 Jeff B -

TLLDOB is one of those LPs (yes, that's what it was) I've bought in too many formats:

Cassette

8 Trak

mp3...

Good anyway.

Oh, and the whole "social Con" issue? Feh. The house is burning & we're supposed to care who's holding the firehose...

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 05:37 PM (lbiWb)

65 You might as well say, "there is no such thing as a chubby chaser conservative" -- because we all know that fat chicks are an abomination to both skinny Jesus and the laws of Kepplerian physics. Shit. I knew I should have majored in physics!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 05:37 PM (6wtM2)

66 I think Chavez has decayed too much, because he has been dead longer then they are publically admitting. They needed some time to clear up succession.

Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 05:37 PM (VRCBg)

67 Anyone can join the NRA. Michael Moore did. About 10% of the NRA is made of those that hate everything that it stands for, but just want to be ironic.

Posted by: ScottyNo at March 14, 2013 05:38 PM (8YE33)

68 God that cartoon is enough to piss me off. To think it happens all the time in that benighted, god-forsaken land.

Posted by: Bhoddisatva at March 14, 2013 05:39 PM (wH62G)

69 >>>Jeff B., I love you man,but it's only rock and roll. And I like it.

I hope to god you're intentionally quoting the last lines of The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (i.e. the song "it."), and not just vicariously citing to The Rolling Stones....

...because otherwise your reaction will just be a big "WTF?" when I point out that what Gabriel is singing is actually "it's only knock and know-all, but I like it."

The More You Know!

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 05:40 PM (/COnL)

70 You donÂ’t build a winning coalition by the process of subtraction. But drumming Kincaid out of the movement would be a great big plus.
***
The cognitive dissonance...it burns.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 05:40 PM (zPVBH)

71 >That's an Army POV. Ordinary Joes are too stupid to have handguns, they will just hurt themselves or shoot some stripper when drunk. True. My squad had a .50 cal for the vehicle, but a pistol was not authorized.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 05:40 PM (8sCoq)

72 I bet 1%-2% are leftists hoping to infiltrate and get into a position where they can do some damage.

Posted by: Takashi- Nerd at March 14, 2013 05:40 PM (iOny9)

73 but, but....checkpoints into Israel are humiliating. I mean, thats worse.....right Malala?

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 05:41 PM (Dnbau)

74 Gabrial malor had to have a hand in crafting this overnight, had to have!

Posted by: General Woundwort at March 14, 2013 05:41 PM (zOP5o)

75 the scoamf discloses his "fantasy".... Â“So, sometimes I have this fantasy that I can put on a disguise, you know, wear a fake mustache, and I can wander through Tel Aviv and go to a bar and have a conversation, or go down to a university and meet with some students in a setting where it wasnÂ’t as formal. And weÂ’re going to try and find as many opportunities as I can to interact directly with the Israeli people.Â”

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 05:41 PM (GVxQo)

76 Social conservatives. The gift that keep on giving for the left.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 05:42 PM (HDgX3)

77 Evening all. Maet really knows how to flow an ONT. start with some stuff to piss you off at the world, bunch of fluff no one is gonna read in the middle, end with an awesome uplifting story.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at March 14, 2013 05:42 PM (jIaZt)

Jess1 @ 64

Who's holding YOUR firehose?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 14, 2013 05:42 PM (Md8Uo)

79 "Did Airline Deregulation Work? Yep."
***
Talking point #1473 that McCain and Romney didn't use.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 05:42 PM (zPVBH)

80 Jones, it's even worse when you leave combat arms. You trust a kid to maintain a $300K engine, but not a handgun.

Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 05:43 PM (VRCBg)

81 >>>The cognitive dissonance...it burns.

Nah...this time it really IS 'addition by subtraction.'

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 05:43 PM (/COnL)

82 Gabrial malor had to have a hand in crafting this overnight, had to have!
***
Nothing about Santorum...so that would be a no...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 05:43 PM (zPVBH)

83 The more disgusted a dude is about the ghey, the more likely he is a closet case. Is your masculinity so weak it's threatened by two dudes kissing? Hell, any man who is uncomfortable watching hardcore gay porn is obviously a homosexual. I watch hours of hard-core gay porn every night and I'm as straight as it gets.

Posted by: Big Gay Al at March 14, 2013 05:43 PM (ZPrif)

#78...

Mrs. Jess1. And yes, it's a manly firehose, if I say so myself

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 05:44 PM (lbiWb)

85 Whitaker Chambers had a wife and two children, so he like both oysters and snails.

Posted by: toby928© presents at March 14, 2013 05:44 PM (QupBk)

86 Farewell Lt. Manning. You did serve in Hell during those years of captivity to the Japanese. Thank you for trying to help the ones you could. Catch you on Fiddler Green.

The story of the American nurses and their abuse at the hands of their Japanese captors alas is not unique. It also happened to the Dutch and Dutch-Indo women. The starvation. Being beaten if they did not bow correctly. Rapes happened and even some were used as comfort women by the Japanese.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 05:44 PM (X81fn)

87 Add up all the profits / losses of every airline over the past 75 years and you get a negative number.

At its core, an airline is a bad business model.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 05:44 PM (HDgX3)

88 >>>start with some stuff to piss you off at the world, bunch of fluff no one is gonna read in the middle, end with an awesome uplifting story.

God forbid I should ever get the keys to the ONT...it would just be one link after another to art-rock, postpunk, and prog-rock bands. Politics? Human interest stories? Gun pr0n? FUCK THAT SHIT, LET'S LISTEN TO "SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND," BITCHEZ.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 05:45 PM (/COnL)

89 76 mr moo moo rinos. the members in the party that kowtow to the lefts every whim

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 05:45 PM (GVxQo)

90 Social conservatives. The gift that keep on giving for the left. Thank goodness that 1%ers never entered their lexicon.

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 05:45 PM (I88Jc)

91 Hi heathens on the ONT. Did AoS win best blog at CPAC? Was that major award given out today?

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 05:45 PM (0PiQ4)

92 "I think it is safe to assume that 8-10% of the NRA is legally blind, demented, or retarded. Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2013 09:20 PM (76Gx5)" There is another possibility. Just give it a little more time.

Posted by: Antonio Gramsci at March 14, 2013 05:46 PM (yCvxi)

93 jeff b how are you doing?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 05:46 PM (GVxQo)

94 89 76 mr moo moo

rinos. the members in the party that kowtow to the lefts every whim

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 09:45 PM (GVxQo)

___________

Offffffff course. I am a RINO because I don't care if 2 men want to fuck.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 05:46 PM (HDgX3)

95 Yep, it sucks having the social cons in our coalition and getting 49% of the vote. Let's purify ourselves down to our Libertarian core -- then we can get 5% of the vote! Winner, winner, chicken dinner. It's always obvious who the true fucktards are -- they are always the first to bash the social cons. Truth is they are just anti-Christian bigots -- they just don't have the balls to admit it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 05:46 PM (ZPrif)

96 Next young adult that screams they're being deprived of an education in th US needs to be swapped with Malala.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at March 14, 2013 05:47 PM (HiKk0)

97 >>>jeff b

how are you doing?

Hey there. Thanks for asking. I don't like talking about it, but the answer is -- could be a lot better. But I'll be goddamned if I'm ever going to let anyone here know about it or cite is as a "get out of being tonight's RINO-whipping-boy" card.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 05:47 PM (/COnL)

75: .... I can wander through Tel Aviv and go to a bar and have a conversation...

Unfortunately, my food taster is allergic to falafel.....

Posted by: Gay Yiddish Choom Boy at March 14, 2013 05:48 PM (0R/EW)

Big Gay Al @ 83

You touch my stuff, I'll kill ya.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 14, 2013 05:48 PM (Md8Uo)

100 Nah...this time it really IS 'addition by subtraction.'
***
Meh. While I think the MSM "bias" checking function of groups like AIM has run its course, "kicking out" AIM/Kincaid would be idiotic. He's done more for conservativism then anyone posting on this blog.

Though if we do get to "kick people out" of the movement I've got a whole list, starting with the last couple of presidential candidates.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 05:48 PM (zPVBH)

101 95 Yep, it sucks having the social cons in our coalition and getting 49% of the vote. Let's purify ourselves down to our Libertarian core -- then we can get 5% of the vote! Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

It's always obvious who the true fucktards are -- they are always the first to bash the social cons. Truth is they are just anti-Christian bigots -- they just don't have the balls to admit it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 09:46 PM (ZPrif)

________________

I don't care if 2 men want to get married, that makes me anti-Christian. 'Scuse me while I go bang my head on the wall a few times

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 05:48 PM (HDgX3)

102

#88, JeffB,

You get my vote. Which means you'll need two "positives" to overcome it.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 05:48 PM (lbiWb)

103 Are there gay conservatives, no. Are there conservatives with a particular sexual fetish that, like all sexual issues, should remain a private matter - yes. Is elevation of a particular sexual fetish to a civil right, requiring government sanction and broad public approval a Conservative value - no. Is putting an end to the grievance management of identity politics from the public purse a Conservative value - yes.

Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 05:48 PM (k8qQE)

104 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 05:48 PM (kaalw)

105 94 mr moo moo you are right....you are not a rino you are the party.....i'm a conservative... social and fiscal the party left me.....keep on bending over.....you seem to like it

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 05:49 PM (GVxQo)

106 God forbid I should ever get the keys to the ONT...it would just be one link after another to art-rock, postpunk, and prog-rock bands. Politics? Human interest stories? Gun pr0n? FUCK THAT SHIT, LET'S LISTEN TO "SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND," BITCHEZ. Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 09:45 PM (/COnL) *points and laughs*

Posted by: CAC at March 14, 2013 05:49 PM (p7Xiw)

107 The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, by Genesis. You know, back when they were acceptably 'cool' because Peter Gabriel was still with the band. I seriously dare anyone in this thread to open that link in a new tab (it's YouTube) and just start with the first song, and tell me it's really shit. It ain't. It's a deeply compelling, hugely disturbing, but also compulsively melodic Freudian/Jungian fever dream.

I once played that for a buddy of mine not too long ago. Scared the SHIT out of him! Great album!

Posted by: Armando at March 14, 2013 05:49 PM (IDypm)

108 @ 76 I heard enuff..Amen brother. I got to go to bed early and just try to forget what I just read about Hand Guns..Just so happens I was in east La today and had some out of his weight class Hombre try and punk me. thank goodness I had some harsh language and am 62 240lbs.. and a 44 waist IYKWIM

Posted by: clemenza at March 14, 2013 05:49 PM (HMQ8k)

109 Yay, so-con vs. libertarian flame war! Version 7,328. I'm out.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at March 14, 2013 05:49 PM (jIaZt)

110 Hell, any man who is uncomfortable watching hardcore gay porn is obviously a homosexual.

I watch hours of hard-core gay porn every night and I'm as straight as it gets.
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I like the cut of our jib. Interested in discussing it over coffee?

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 14, 2013 05:50 PM (zPVBH)

111 You trust a kid to maintain a $300K engine, but not a handgun. 300K??? The turbines we were dropping into M1 hulls were $1.5M a copy. I one one of my 2 supported battalions go through about 3 a month.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 05:50 PM (6wtM2)

112 Ok, pedant mode on. (Sorry, I'm Pavlov's dog and the bell just rang.)
The Bible,both Old and New Testaments, condemns homosexuality. It condemns adultery and fornication, too. If we're going after the gays,we need to go after anyone who has had pre- or extra- marital sex, too.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 14, 2013 09:34 PM (0R/EW)

Well, okay, but really it isn't US who are going after those folks, it is God, who is a lot bigger and has a bit more pull.

The point being that we all sin in one fashion or another, and our sins do affect others in ways we might not even understand. It may not be entirely clear who is being hurt by premarital sex, but if one looks at the entirety of the issue, then it is clear that both men and women are hurt by it, because it denies the basic truth of the marriage of a man and a woman. The same it true for adultery, although the pain is pretty obvious there. Homosexuality does the same thing--it denies the integrity of marriage and of creation (male and female He created them....).

Laws do not make things right between God and people, nor between people, and no law against homosexuality or premarital or extramarital sex is going to get anyone into heaven.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 05:50 PM (VLG62)

113

#99,

Do I really need to say it?

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 05:50 PM (lbiWb)

114

If we're going after the gays,we need to go after anyone who has had pre- or extra- marital sex, too.

1) Pre- and extra-marital sex is considered a very big, bad deal among conservative Christians, at least the ones I know. It is certainly a lot more immediate problem than homosexuality.

2) No one is telling us that sex out of wedlock is just who they are and we have to accept them and celebrate their urges.

3) Homosexuality is a bigger deviation from the creation norm (monogamous sex within marriage) than is a couple who plant their corn before building their fences, just as infidelity is a graver sin than pre-marital sex, and so has to be dealt with in a different manner.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 05:50 PM (P7nGQ)

115 104 94 mr moo moo

you are right....you are not a rino you are the party.....i'm a conservative... social and fiscal the party left me.....keep on bending over.....you seem to like it

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 09:49 PM (GVxQo)

_______________

Why do you care what 2 gay men do in their home?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 05:51 PM (HDgX3)

116 Something for TPH -
http://tinyurl.com/cfzcouo

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 05:51 PM (X81fn)

117 All right! Tonight, after clouds coming and going all day, it cleared up beautifully at sunset. I got to my observing site at 7:30. This time I brought my adapter to attach my binoculars to the tripod. I got set up and began searching for the comet. At first the sky was too bright, but I finally spotted it at 7:45 when it was about 8Âº above the horizon and kept it in view until 8:15 when it was only 3Âº above the horizon, and my view was being sporadically blocked by passing trucks. I could still see it when I finally decided to pack it in for the night. I never did spot it with the naked eye, though. My site was the parking lot of a diner about five minutes from home, and there were some bright lights around, so it was not an ideal observing site. Its most important feature was an unobstructed western horizon. There were a few other observers in the parking lot. It was cold, and the wind was blowing something fierce. Yes, following comets requires some dedication and hardship.

While it is theoretically at naked-eye brightness, it isn't bright enough to punch through the twilight sky and the horizon murk. It would be easily visible if it were higher in the sky after dark. As of tonight it is 105,000,000 miles from Earth, which explains its tiny size. Perihelion was on March 10 at about 28,000,000 miles from the Sun. So it's now receding from both Earth and Sun. I have to wonder whether it may be dimming faster than predicted. Here's a Sky & Telescope article, and the comments are pretty much unanimous that it has been underwhelming: http://tinyurl.com/ajal533 Still, I consider it to be worth the trouble. But then again, I like comets.

Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2013 05:51 PM (sdi6R)

118 mr moo moo i don't care what they do in their home.....why do you need to tell me about it?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 05:51 PM (GVxQo)

119 Evening all. Got cornered by a teacher at a school function who would not stop talking to me and constantly touching me while yapping. Finally told them I didn't give two shits and shouldered by. Douche. Excellent first impression, I thought.

Posted by: NCKate at March 14, 2013 05:52 PM (n7zrG)

120 I'm in a pissy mood after reading the story of the Ohio teen rapists. Those texts. Just awful.

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 05:52 PM (wsGWu)

121 It's always obvious who the true fucktards are -- they are always
the first to bash the social cons. Truth is they are just anti-Christian
bigots -- they just don't have the balls to admit it.
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If your first choice of target to attack is the group of people mostly likely to be conservative activists, you may not be a conservative.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 05:53 PM (zPVBH)

122 For those tired of searching for Nessie and not finding the wee beastie, well it seems another Scottish loch might have something more akin to a mermaid.

http://tinyurl.com/c6bmyor

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 05:53 PM (X81fn)

123 Big Gay Al, I don't know about you, but I'm just THOOPER!

Posted by: Takashi- Nerd at March 14, 2013 05:53 PM (iOny9)

124 I've got a little list Yes, I've got a little list And they'll none of them be missed They'll none of them be missed

Posted by: Mr. Mikado at March 14, 2013 05:53 PM (ZPrif)

125 >>>It's always obvious who the true fucktards are -- they are always the first to bash the social cons. Truth is they are just anti-Christian bigots -- they just don't have the balls to admit it.

I am: 1.) an evangelical Christian; 2.) Personally, quite socially conservative. To the point where it gets me involved in awkward conversations at cocktail parties because I'm that guy who really insists on making the case that gay marriage might actually be bad for the long-term fabric of society, and we're all blinding ourselves to it.

However, that doesn't make me disdain people like this Cliff Kincaid any less. He is a person who, like certain Christian conservatives, lacks any sort of Constitutional grounding and merely thinks of the levers of government as a tool for forcibly installing HIS OWN preferred vision of society, unrestrained by any neutral, secular/philosophical governing principles. Which is antithetical to what the Founders believed in, and what they put into the Constitution -- a document which, almost uniquely among national charters, was tailor-made to include enough 'space' for changing attitudes and times and mores.

I have no more in common with someone like Kincaid, who would happily pass a national law criminalizing gayness, than I do with the worst ultra-Leftist turd in the country, regardless of what party he claims to belong to. It has nothing to do with his purported Christian faith, and everything to do with his attempts to turn a democratic republic into a theocratic Society of Virtue using the power of the State.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 05:53 PM (/COnL)

126 117 mr moo moo

i don't care what they do in their home.....why do you need to tell me about it?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 09:51 PM (GVxQo)

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That makes zero sense. I don't care about it either way. 2 men want to do the nasty with each other, I don't care. Yet for some reason you and the rest of the Akins out there get all hot and bothered by it.

Why?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 05:53 PM (HDgX3)

127 ya Know the ONT is a nicer read better when it d-emphasis's politics and finds common ground.

music, funky old movie stars , and laughing commentators.

jmho

Posted by: willow/ette at March 14, 2013 05:53 PM (nqBYe)

128 why do you need to tell me about it? I think the answer is self-evident. Do you not?

Posted by: T. Coddington Van Rumpranger V at March 14, 2013 05:54 PM (6wtM2)

129 Funny how the same people that were lecturing me on fighting for this "country" after I mentioned that this is a liberal dominated country now, are the same ones telling Christian conservatives to disregard the doctrines of their faith for the greater good. The same faith and religious doctrine that made the western world and this country in particular, the greatest force for good this world has ever seen.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 05:54 PM (Fz2C7)

130 Yay, so-con vs. libertarian flame war!

You would think we could all concentrate on the common ground here--government should stop confiscating the wages of some people to subsidize other people's imprudent sexual choices--but what fun is that?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 14, 2013 05:54 PM (hO8IJ)

131 NCKate, I would screamed sexual harassment on them. Total stranger feeling you up. Or a nice .45ACP between the eye balls.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 05:54 PM (X81fn)

132 i'd like to know who is trying to stop gheys from doing what they do in their own home(s).....who is rounding them up and taking them somewhere?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 05:54 PM (GVxQo)

133 Still, I consider it to be worth the trouble. But then again, I like comets. Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2013 09:51 PM (sdi6R) Seen it 3 times this week. Once with the wife, once with my drivers, once with our neighbors. Great every time. It's been very, VERY clear in Southern California until today. Clouds in the way to the West unfortunately...

Posted by: CAC at March 14, 2013 05:54 PM (p7Xiw)

134 I NEVER get my sock off in time. Damnit!

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 05:55 PM (iOny9)

135 40 Tonight's open thread brought to you by this classic musical tour-de-force that you should immediately put on in the background as you read this open thread tonight:

http://tinyurl.com/bhrgyp6

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, by Genesis. You know, back when they were acceptably 'cool' because Peter Gabriel was still with the band. I seriously dare anyone in this thread to open that link in a new tab (it's YouTube) and just start with the first song, and tell me it's really shit. It ain't. It's a deeply compelling, hugely disturbing, but also compulsively melodic Freudian/Jungian fever dream.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 09:26 PM (/COnL)

Darn, I was hoping for actual video.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 05:55 PM (kaalw)

136 Got cornered by a teacher at a school function who would not stop talking to me
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Should have asked him if he was interested in donating to your club the seals foundation...Help us club now, before the barking threat grows. [/]

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 05:55 PM (zPVBH)

137 "I am: 1.) an evangelical Christian; 2.) Personally, quite socially conservative."

Bullshit.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 05:55 PM (Fz2C7)

138 Had a Twilight Zone moment today. A guy is driving three hours tomorrow morning to buy a 1934 shotgun from me. He just added me to his gun-rights email distribution list today.

Binged him. He's the President of a Teamsters Local. I'm glad he's for gun rights, but it must be hell for him these days to be a Dem.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 14, 2013 05:55 PM (4Mv1T)

139

"Still, I consider it to be worth the trouble. But then again, I like comets"

Same here. Oncetuponatime we gathered a whole bunch of school/classmates for Comet Kohoutek. Had a couple each reflectors (3") and refractors, and actually had a pretty good time until someone figured out it was more fun to search the buildings in Manhattan...

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 05:55 PM (lbiWb)

140 Circular Firing Squad...FALL IN!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 14, 2013 05:56 PM (yCvxi)

141

Killer Assault whales wear socks?

Are you a.......land whale?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 14, 2013 05:56 PM (Md8Uo)

142 i'd like to know who is trying to stop gheys from doing what they do in their own home(s).....who is rounding them up and taking them somewhere?
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Um, the White House isn't just somewhere.

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 14, 2013 05:56 PM (zPVBH)

143 http://tinyurl.com/c6bmyor

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 09:53 PM (X81fn)

Morag, looks to be an up and coming star

Posted by: willow/ette at March 14, 2013 05:57 PM (nqBYe)

144 137 Had a Twilight Zone moment today. A guy is driving three hours tomorrow morning to buy a 1934 shotgun from me. He just added me to his gun-rights email distribution list today.

Binged him. He's the President of a Teamsters Local. I'm glad he's for gun rights, but it must be hell for him these days to be a Dem.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 14, 2013 09:55 PM (4Mv1T)

_________

Lots of these people out there. I know several down the line liberal Democrats. With one exception. They love guns.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 05:57 PM (HDgX3)

145 And now for something completely different. A Shetland pony moon-walking to some Fleetwood Mac.

http://youtu.be/Ekr05T9Iaio

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 05:57 PM (X81fn)

146 Binged him. He's the President of a Teamsters Local. I'm glad he's for gun rights, but it must be hell for him these days to be a Dem.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 14, 2013 09:55 PM (4Mv1T)

nah, he's astill all for gun stealers. from them 'other 'folks.

Posted by: willow/ette at March 14, 2013 05:58 PM (nqBYe)

147 i'd like to know who is trying to stop gheys from doing what they do in their own home(s).....who is rounding them up and taking them somewhere?

Nobody. Meanwhile, activist gays (e.g., a subset of proggs) can't stop interfering in what others do in their homes, churches, and businesses.

Sauce, goose, gander.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 14, 2013 05:58 PM (hO8IJ)

148 Yep. Concern troll anti-Christian bigots. The one true friend of Republicans, Liberty, and the Conservative movement. Surely Republicans and all of America will soon flock to the banner of Christianity-hating atheists. Why haven't we tried that strategy earlier? Genius!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 05:58 PM (ZPrif)

149 Ok?

Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 05:58 PM (2aO3a)

150 From personal experience, I've had run-ins with NRA-gear-clad trap shooters who don't think anyone "needs" AR-15s, nor 30 round magazines... or .50 rifles... or Eotechs, Trijicons, and Aimpoints.

...and probably not a Tavor either. But I'll get one anyway, because IWI is currently importing parts and manufacturing them.

Posted by: Pvt. Partze at March 14, 2013 05:58 PM (CZCbG)

151 Binged him. He's the President of a Teamsters Local. I'm glad he's for gun rights, but it must be hell for him these days to be a Dem.
***
The one saving grace for this country is that precious few people really believe the Democrat line in areas where they have bothered to think is through.

The problem is a deciding fraction of voters don't want to think.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 05:58 PM (zPVBH)

152 government should stop confiscating the wages of some people to subsidize other people's imprudent sexual choices--but what fun is that? Since the government is going to take our wages no matter what we do, they could at least offer up the video feed of the aforementioned imprudent sexual choices. Jus' sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 05:59 PM (6wtM2)

153 I'm in a pissy mood after reading the story of the Ohio teen rapists. Those texts. Just awful. Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 09:52 PM (wsGWu) ------------------------------------------------------------ I read them too. Disgusting. Our kids live in a cold and callous world.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 14, 2013 05:59 PM (jucos)

154 Willow/ette, could be. Probably should start ginning up some Morag stuff for CafePress. Catch the wave don't ya know?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 05:59 PM (X81fn)

155 147 Yep. Concern troll anti-Christian bigots. The one true friend of Republicans, Liberty, and the Conservative movement.

Surely Republicans and all of America will soon flock to the banner of Christianity-hating atheists. Why haven't we tried that strategy earlier? Genius!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 09:58 PM (ZPrif)

________________

So you really think that if I don't hate gays, it must mean I hate Christians? Dude that is so warped.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 05:59 PM (HDgX3)

156

I'm curious about that food tester for the president...how long do they wait after they "test" until the president eats? (per usual I didn't read the article) I wouldn't want to do any president harm but I do have a shrimp scampi recipe that if I could replicate it just like I did last Sunday it could spell trouble for the tester and the preezy a good 5-6 hours after consumption and well into the new work week.

Posted by: Molly k. at March 14, 2013 06:00 PM (D3Gkk)

157 Since the government is going to take our wages no matter what we do, they could at least offer up the video feed of the aforementioned imprudent sexual choices.

Have you seen the teen moms at Indiana WalMarts? Be careful what you wish for.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 14, 2013 06:00 PM (hO8IJ)

158 *grabs popcorn* This'll be fun.

Posted by: CAC at March 14, 2013 06:00 PM (p7Xiw)

159 Surely Republicans and all of America will soon flock to the banner of Christianity-hating atheists. Why haven't we tried that strategy earlier? Genius! Thank you. Applause on this end. But have faith, I'm sure we'll find a way to politically buttfuck ourselves for 2016 yet again.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:00 PM (6wtM2)

160 That makes zero sense. I don't care about it either way. 2 men want to do the nasty with each other, I don't care. Yet for some reason you and the rest of the Akins out there get all hot and bothered by it.

Why?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 09:53 PM (HDgX3)

I can answer this one easily. The fact that you need to tell me they are doing that is the answer. If all they did was the nasty in private, that wouldn't affect more than the two of them, and anyone else who might have sex with them at a different time. But, that is never the end of it. Gay this, gay that, gay in our face and up in our business 24/7/365. We wanna get married, we wanna have a nekkid parade in SF and get blowjobs in public, etc., ad nauseum.

Gay might be okay, but not for those of us who aren't and would prefer our children not learn about sex for the first time by someone who wants to teach them proper fisting techniques in kindergarten.

Enough already. Any other argument is just apologetics.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 06:00 PM (VLG62)

161

unrestrained by any neutral, secular/philosophical governing principles.

Are you familiar with the term "worldview?" because you seem to be equating "secular" with "neutral," which is kind of odd for a conservative evangelical.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 06:00 PM (P7nGQ)

162

"Since the government is going to take our wages no matter what we do, they could at least offer up the video feed of the aforementioned imprudent sexual choices. "

TSA Scanner, aisle 1...

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:01 PM (lbiWb)

163 i'm against ghey marriage...i don't hate gheys.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 06:01 PM (GVxQo)

164 Killer Assault whales wear socks?

Are you a.......land whale?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch

***

When I need to be, but micheal moore usually has that role wrapped up.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:02 PM (iOny9)

165 Conservatives would do well to formulate arguments that appeal to secular voters as well as religious voters

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:02 PM (8sCoq)

166
Since the government is going to take our wages no matter what we do
***
One big problem with Libertarianism (note the big L) right now. The left is going to push their agenda straight down the our throats with the full force of the government. And yet you still get idiot LP types ranting about the likes of Santorum.

There is NO chance, whatsoever, that in the next few years this country is getting back to where it was in 2001, so worrying about a return to the 50s is idiotic.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 06:02 PM (zPVBH)

167
Gay might be okay, but not for those of us who aren't and would prefer our children not learn about sex for the first time by someone who wants to teach them proper fisting techniques in kindergarten.

Enough already. Any other argument is just apologetics.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 10:00 PM (VLG62)

_____________________

And if you ask 1000 gays if they support teaching how to fist in kindergarten I'll bet 995 say HELL NO.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:02 PM (HDgX3)

168 Have you seen the teen moms at Indiana WalMarts? Be careful what you wish for. No, but I have extensive experience with them at Wal-Marts from Junction City, KS to Topeka. Your point is well taken.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:02 PM (6wtM2)

169 So you really think that if I don't hate gays, it must mean I hate Christians? Dude that is so warped.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 09:59 PM (HDgX3)

Please indicate for me which Christians you know who hate gays. Christians, the one's who are IN FACT Christian, do not hate anyone. They hate the sin, but not the sinner.

I'm sure that distinction is lost on you.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 06:02 PM (VLG62)

170 Considering Barack & Michelle's penchant for fancy foods like Waygu beef and lobster,, being a food taster for him might not be such a bad job. Bet the taster makes as much or more than a WH calligrapher.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2013 06:02 PM (0/zfR)

171 Just finished watching Perry's speech rebroadcast on CSPAN (and Greta's running some of it now, too) and it's better upon re-viewing (altho I still disagree that Hispanic immigrants don't want a hand-out). I'd happily dust-off my Perry pon-poms for his next POTUS campaign

Posted by: Aslan's Girl, still <3s Perry at March 14, 2013 06:03 PM (KL49F)

172 But have faith, I'm sure we'll find a way to politically buttfuck ourselves for 2016 yet again.
___
HI GUYS!!!!

Hey, you gonna finish that burrito?

Posted by: Chris Christie at March 14, 2013 06:03 PM (zPVBH)

173 Willow/ette, could be. Probably should start ginning up some Morag stuff for CafePress. Catch the wave don't ya know?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 09:59 PM (X81fn)

perhaps a whole tea-set with a pretty aqua background, soften the monsters face

win

shabby morag at lunch

Posted by: willow/ette at March 14, 2013 06:03 PM (nqBYe)

174 And if you ask 1000 gays if they support teaching how to fist in kindergarten I'll bet 995 say HELL NO.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 10:02 PM (HDgX3)

So where are those 995 when the other 5 go off the reservation? Haven't heard a word.

It is much like the deafening roar of the "moderate" Muslims denouncing their "radical" peers. Not one peep.

So, I call bullshit.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 06:03 PM (VLG62)

175

I also just got to see Cruz's exchange with Feinstein... GOLD! I loved Cruz's condescention, too. Loved his expresssion and his point about the 1st Amendment.

I'm thrilled with Cruz and have never been happier to be wrong about someone (I had supported Dewhurst in the primary).

Posted by: Aslan's Girl, still <3s Perry at March 14, 2013 06:04 PM (KL49F)

176
Please indicate for me which Christians you know who hate gays. Christians, the one's who are IN FACT Christian, do not hate anyone. They hate the sin, but not the sinner.
I'm sure that distinction is lost on you.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 10:02 PM (VLG62)

__________

So every gay man is a sinner? Ah yes, a much better approach at winning elections.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:04 PM (HDgX3)

177

#171,

That's not a burrito.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:04 PM (lbiWb)

178 132 Seen it 3 times this week. Once with the wife, once with my drivers, once with our neighbors. Great every time. It's been very, VERY clear in Southern California until today. Clouds in the way to the West unfortunately... Posted by: CAC at March 14, 2013 09:54 PM (p7Xiw) I don't know whether you saw my previous comments, but on both Tuesday and Wednesday, the sky was mostly clear except for the western horizon. I didn't see it at all on Tuesday, and I saw it for a whole 10 seconds on Wednesday before the clouds moved in.

Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2013 06:05 PM (sdi6R)

179 Mr Moo Moo, ok, change that to fifteen year olds. Your numbers will flip.

Posted by: Jean at March 14, 2013 06:05 PM (2aO3a)

180 And if you ask 1000 gays if they support teaching how to fist in kindergarten I'll bet 995 say HELL NO.
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Yet how many of them will vote for the candidates that will mandate things like that?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 06:05 PM (zPVBH)

181 Win a chance to have Lunch with Morag.

Return ticket optional.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 06:05 PM (X81fn)

182 How about this, JiC? Vote Republican. We'll keep your sons from growing up to be teenage sociopaths. Because, seriously, the degradation of sex to the hook up culture fosters this shit. Old fashioned values might be boring, but at least they don't strip you naked and jack off on you and then post it on instagram/rant

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 06:06 PM (wsGWu)

183 mr moo moo guess what......everyone is a sinner....it seems youare the one with a problem singling out the gheys......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 06:06 PM (GVxQo)

184 So where are those 995 when the other 5 go off the reservation? Haven't heard a word.

It is much like the deafening roar of the "moderate" Muslims denouncing their "radical" peers. Not one peep.

So, I call bullshit.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 10:03 PM (VLG62)

______________________

According to your logic then every Christian supports everything that THE REVEREND Al Sharpton says. And everything the Westboro Church nutjobs say. All Christians think alike just like all gays think alike.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:06 PM (HDgX3)

185 >>>Darn, I was hoping for actual video

Hey, I got that for you too!

http://tinyurl.com/aw3bahk

That's the album, but set to the picture stills that displayed behind the band as they played it live. Fascinatingly awesome stuff.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:06 PM (/COnL)

186 So every gay man is a sinner? Ah yes, a much better approach at winning elections.
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You do know the Christian answer to the question is every ___ man a sinner, right?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 06:06 PM (zPVBH)

187 I don't know whether you saw my previous comments, but on both Tuesday and Wednesday, the sky was mostly clear except for the western horizon. I didn't see it at all on Tuesday, and I saw it for a whole 10 seconds on Wednesday before the clouds moved in. Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2013 10:05 PM (sdi6R) That freaked me out on Sunday- there were low clouds when we got up to Llano. They broke up just aroudn 7:15 though

Posted by: CAC at March 14, 2013 06:06 PM (p7Xiw)

188 Ah, Mr. Moo Moo, the stealth troll. You suck at pretending to be a Conservative or Libertarian. Maybe you should try stand-up.

Posted by: eman at March 14, 2013 06:07 PM (64rcm)

189 Moo moo the bigot is in good form tonight. The only one spewing hate here is you, bigot.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:07 PM (ZPrif)

190 So every gay man is a sinner? Ah yes, a much better approach at winning elections.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 10:04 PM (HDgX3)

Yes they are sinners. By definition.

And I'm e absolutely cannot win an election with the 2% of the population that are gay, the grand majority of whom are democrats. /sarc

Find another straw man to push.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 06:07 PM (VLG62)

191 188 Ah, Mr. Moo Moo, the stealth troll.

You suck at pretending to be a Conservative or Libertarian.

Maybe you should try stand-up.

Posted by: eman at March 14, 2013 10:07 PM (64rcm)

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Offfffff course. If I don't hate gays, I am a troll.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:08 PM (HDgX3)

192 WE should be talking about motorcycles or pie

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:08 PM (8sCoq)

193 I am so fucking sick of hearing about gay sex.

Posted by: waldo truth at March 14, 2013 06:08 PM (3VhRQ)

194

Jeff B, you should check out the soundtrack to the incredible "War of The Robots"...

(ok, maybe not incredible. How 'bout bad Italian SW ripoff?)

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:08 PM (lbiWb)

195 Who said they hate gays?

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 06:08 PM (wsGWu)

196

So every gay man is a sinner?

Without getting into the question of original sin: Homosexual acts are sins, yes. Are you telling us that we have to say otherwise?

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 06:09 PM (P7nGQ)

197 mr moo moo you are just a troll.....it doesn't matter who you like or don't like...and by the way....you are a sinner...as am i.....deal with it

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 06:09 PM (GVxQo)

198 According to your logic then every Christian supports everything that THE REVEREND Al Sharpton says. And everything the Westboro Church nutjobs say. All Christians think alike just like all gays think alike.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 10:06 PM (HDgX3)

Once again, and read it slowly so you can understand. Bullshit.

I think you will find a great many Christians denouncing the lunatic fringe, particularly when they are on a roll like those sociopaths.

But then, your buttsecks is probably too loud for you to be able to hear.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 06:09 PM (VLG62)

199 guess i'll go paint something.

try to have an enjoyable evenin, try not to get wound up, . sleep is priceless

Posted by: willow/ette at March 14, 2013 06:10 PM (nqBYe)

200 Yes they are sinners. By definition.

And I'm e absolutely cannot win an election with the 2% of the population that are gay, the grand majority of whom are democrats. /sarc

Find another straw man to push.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 10:07 PM (VLG62)

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Yes because when Akin types are out there demonizing gays, it's only that 2% who cares about it. No straight people get upset when they hear Akin types speak. You can't be this obtuse.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:10 PM (HDgX3)

201 Bannion. Anna Puma. DC! Quit lurking and get back over here!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:10 PM (GEICT)

202 Anyone else been playing Starcraft 2 Heart of the Swarm?

I couldn't help but notice the many similarities between the Queen of Blades and AoS's Dark Queen, AtC:

Kerrigan was a redhead before she got zerg in her hair.
Kerrigan is filled with RAGE and crushes things with her mind.
Kerrigan can summon "Raptor"-lings to her side to tear apart her enemies.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 14, 2013 06:10 PM (7um7O)

203 So much for having a fun ONT. The circular firing squad is on the loose again.

See you later.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 06:10 PM (X81fn)

204 Hate gays? Not I, not us. Gays are cool with me. Heck, I even like Christians.

Posted by: eman at March 14, 2013 06:11 PM (64rcm)

205

I don't care about gay sex.

Can we talk about cunningligussuss?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:11 PM (iOny9)

206 Hmmm. Stopped coming by when AoS was a "smart semi/milblog". Now a theological blog. Bummer.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:11 PM (lbiWb)

207 Homosexual acts are sins, yes. Are you telling us that we have to say otherwise?

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 10:09 PM (P7nGQ)

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wow. just wow.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:11 PM (HDgX3)

208 You can't be this obtuse.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 10:10 PM (HDgX3)

Why not? You are such a clear example, why can't everyone be?

Now, go lay down by your dish.

Posted by: tcn at March 14, 2013 06:11 PM (VLG62)

209 We need to win the votes of millions of people who don't give a shit about this stuff that's the challenge.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:12 PM (8sCoq)

210 There isn't a circular firing squad. There's one soulless, bigoted troll taking a crap on the floor.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:12 PM (ZPrif)

211 >>>worrying about a return to the 50s is idiotic.

I'd be happy with 2006.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 14, 2013 06:12 PM (4Mv1T)

212 Ta da!!!!'

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:12 PM (6wtM2)

213

"The president has a food-taster..."

Yes, baby! He be tastin' everthing the prez eatin'!

Posted by: Reggie Love at March 14, 2013 06:12 PM (UrENZ)

214

wow. just wow.

Is that a yes or a no?

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 06:12 PM (P7nGQ)

215 Mr Moo Moo, you and your ilk show your colors, whenever the gay topic arises, when you instantly rush to denounce the social conservatives en masse. You clearly don't like them and you look down on them. That response swells from a deeper place than just political disagreement, it comes from religious and/or cultural bigotry. I have seen it about a zillion times and not just here on the HQ.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 06:13 PM (BBWjt)

216 Dammit, come back, Anna! Cosplay! Cosplay!

Posted by: eman at March 14, 2013 06:13 PM (64rcm)

217 >>>So every gay man is a sinner? Ah yes, a much better approach at winning elections.

Okay, step back now. As a Christian, I actually believe this is true. I also believe that people who have premarital sex, or cheat on their spouses, or lie to people, or break oaths, or take the Lord's name in vain, are also sinning. In fact -- get a load of this! -- I believe that WE ARE ALL SINNERS. I mean, this is the fundamental point of Christianity: we are all sinners, flawed from birth by Original Sin, redeemed by Christ's sacrifice to the promise of eternal life with our loving creator.

We're all sinners. None of us is pure, not a single one. Ain't but one sinless person ever walked the face of this earth -- and they nailed him to a block of wood.

Now, as a matter of pure, blunt politics, I agree: best not to 'lead with our chin' and put the most difficult-to-understand and subtle points of theological nuance out there in front, for others to demagogue and distort. But yes, the issue isn't whether homosexual sex is a sin per se, but rather the failure to emphasize that so many other things are too and we ALL, as flawed humans, inevitably fall short. We're DESTINED to, and have been ever since The Fall. Our goal as Christians is therefore to strive to live in a more Christlike fashion, and when we fall short to ask forgiveness from our Creator.

But hey, what do I know? I'm apparently just a fake-Christian 'concern troll.'

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:14 PM (/COnL)

218

Regarding the NRA survey, I am one of the 9% of NRA members who do NOT support laws keeping firearms away from the mentally ill.

Do I want a person with command hallucinations and homicidal ideation to have a weapon to kill? NO. But I understand telling someone you can't have a gun will not stop them from obtaining a gun. A person with mental illness and $100 can buy a gun on the street. No law will stop them. I would rather work with them, develop a safety plan, bring in family, medicate and if needed have a emergency detention. I will never take 2nd amendment rights away because then someone will find a reason to say I have a mental illness and take away my weapons.

Posted by: Barbara/wiscmom at March 14, 2013 06:14 PM (73mB5)

219 We here at the Whatev household don't care about gayness. Don't want to know how you like getting off. It's the last thing I want to know about. Once worked with a guy who would come in and talk about doing his wife like it was some big score. It's like, STFU. Don't need the info.

Posted by: Whatev at March 14, 2013 06:14 PM (A7Wh1)

220 Anybody still watch Community? I got sick of it when they let that old ham Chevy Chase take it over.

Posted by: waldo truth at March 14, 2013 06:14 PM (3VhRQ)

221 Th only reason why we hear so darn much about gay marriage and abortion is that the Left uses it to paint Republicans/conservatives as intolerant, womyn-and-gay hating bigots. Best way to divide the Right into libertarian and social con camps. Most people I know, Christian/gay/whatever, care a heck of a lot more about our economy, taxes, government overreach, national defense, etc.
Really. Most of us just don't care.Please stop confusing disinterest for hate.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2013 06:14 PM (0/zfR)

222 210 We need to win the votes of millions of people who don't give a shit about this stuff

that's the challenge.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 10:12 PM (8sCoq)

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True. But people who otherwise are indifferent to gays are turned off when they hear Republicans talk about sinning gays.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:14 PM (HDgX3)

223 You guys piling on Mr Moo again? Well that's nice. Carry on.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:14 PM (wAng0)

224

Mr. moo moo hates our veterans, police, and social Cons.

ronulan retard is what he is.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:14 PM (iOny9)

225 I'm retarded. Seriously, look at my haircut.

Posted by: Patty Murray at March 14, 2013 06:15 PM (YOZSv)

226 I don't care about gay sex.

Can we talk about cunningligussuss?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 10:11 PM (iOny9)

sure sailor

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 06:15 PM (Dnbau)

227 Did Ace orechestrate this ONT? What da hell happened? Moo Moo, none of us gives us a damn what gay people do in private. but gay people are obsessed with being gay and demand that everyone including religious folks condone their behavior.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 06:15 PM (0PiQ4)

228 Moo Moo, do you have some type of App that alerts you when the word "gay" is mentioned on this site? Seriously, you seem to show up everytime this topic comes up.

Posted by: Icedog at March 14, 2013 06:15 PM (3qKP/)

229 If you really believed in tolerance, Mr Moo Moo, you'd stop ridiculing and mocking the Christians.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 06:15 PM (BBWjt)

230 Fine we're all sinners. But I don't see an so-con freaking out about any other types of sins commited by anyone. Seems to be all the fury is directed at one sin in particular. Odd.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:15 PM (HDgX3)

231 Demonizing gays. Yes, by following and pointing out the doctrine of Christ in that God created us to live in his law of goodness and happiness, to not follow in paths of destructive behavior means we are demonizing gays. Any other laws of God we should disregard so we can be good Christians in your eyes?

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 06:15 PM (Fz2C7)

232 please. Lets keep talking about sex.....

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 06:16 PM (Dnbau)

233 230 If you really believed in tolerance, Mr Moo Moo, you'd stop ridiculing and mocking the Christians.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 10:15 PM (BBWjt)

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How am I mocking Christians? Seriously. I am saying stop with the gay bashing and it will lead to more election wins. I don't for the life of me see how this is in any way Christian bashing.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:16 PM (HDgX3)

234 "Who are these people?"

They are National Restaurant Association members who answer yes when a pollster asks them if they are in the NRA.

Posted by: Mark1971 at March 14, 2013 06:16 PM (Vjplh)

235 Why is it wrong for (some) Republicans to talk about "sinning gays", but it's okay for (almost all) Democrats to talk about "greedy selfish Republicans"?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 06:17 PM (BBWjt)

236 I don't hate gays. I do hate the agenda. I do hate how sex, gay or hetero, is injected in to everything. Sex is private. Please keep it that way.

Posted by: NCKate at March 14, 2013 06:17 PM (n7zrG)

237 You guys piling on Mr Moo again?

Go on...

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at March 14, 2013 06:17 PM (IDypm)

238 The yawning induced by this 1000th go-round on gayness is dangerous. I'm going to do something more productive and get high. Later rons and ettes.

Posted by: CAC at March 14, 2013 06:17 PM (p7Xiw)

239 While you guys are fighting about teh gheys, my fellow dims are tearing the country apart. Well played!

Posted by: Patty Murray at March 14, 2013 06:17 PM (YOZSv)

240 people freak out when they think about me having sex too. Odd, that.

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 06:17 PM (Dnbau)

241 Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 10:15 PM (Fz2C7)

Racist.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2013 06:17 PM (3Mkrp)

242 233 please. Lets keep talking about sex.....

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 10:16 PM (Dnbau)

You got it, sister!

Posted by: RuPaul at March 14, 2013 06:17 PM (BBWjt)

243 Helen "cooter" Thomas, that's just evil.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:17 PM (iOny9)

244 I have seen it about a zillion times and not just here on the HQ. Yeah, but for some odd reason we see a lot of it here. I haven't figured that one out yet.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:18 PM (6wtM2)

245

"Helen "cooter" Thomas "

Cut the c*ap, ok? That requires female sex organs, and... I'm not going there.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:18 PM (lbiWb)

246 I have a crotch shot of Hilarry if you guys want to see it. Sitting in a chair like a man from about 1984 or whenever she was hot.

Posted by: Whatev at March 14, 2013 06:18 PM (A7Wh1)

247 So far, the repartee sucks balls

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:18 PM (8sCoq)

248 This may end up being the shortest ONT on record.

Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2013 06:18 PM (sdi6R)

249 232 Demonizing gays. Yes, by following and pointing out the doctrine of Christ in that God created us to live in his law of goodness and happiness, to not follow in paths of destructive behavior means we are demonizing gays. Any other laws of God we should disregard so we can be good Christians in your eyes?

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 10:15 PM (Fz2C7)

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So being gay is a path of destructive behavior? Wow. Just wow.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:18 PM (HDgX3)

250 Call me Helen. Let's scissor sister!

Posted by: Patty Murray at March 14, 2013 06:18 PM (YOZSv)

251

The battle for marriage was lost twenty years ago. When cohabitation and childbirth out of wedlock are norms, I don't see gay marriage as a threat to civilization. With all respect to single moms and dads, biological or adoptive parents (anyone who faithfully raises a child for eighteen years deserves accolades), I'd like a consensus that children are best raised by a man and woman who are in a loving, long term, committed, mutually respectful relationship (what used to be quaintly defined as marriage) and then figure out how to encourage that. (I'd like someone else in the White House the next three years, too, but that won't happen either.)

I have no way to prove this: while I think that for some folks sexual preference is a choice (Jim McGreevey led an apparently very successful life as a hetero or at least bisexual), I think for some people homosexuality is not a choice, it's just they way they are wired, the same way that most straight folks could not choose to be gay.

Posted by: Gay Yiddish Choom Boy at March 14, 2013 06:18 PM (0R/EW)

252 The conservatives didn't bring it up. We. Don't. Care.Who. You. Fuck. But nooooooo, that's not good enough. You need more. Yoy need acceptance. You need a party. So we say, "no, sorry" and you respond "OMG stop talking about it! You're scaring the indies!!11!"

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 06:18 PM (wsGWu)

253 Carry on, carions. You're like buzzards, picking on flesh.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:19 PM (oxIUw)

254 Seriously though -- forget about Teh Gays. Let's talk prog-rock. Anyone as big a fan of 1972-1974 era King Crimson as I am? Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Red, and U.S.A. for the win!

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:19 PM (/COnL)

255 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at March 14, 2013 06:19 PM (LUnTP)

256 pecking, I mean on carcasses

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:19 PM (QVBzT)

257 So far, the repartee sucks balls

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 10:18 PM (8sCoq)

well hello sailor!

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 06:19 PM (Dnbau)

258 I don't hate gays. I do hate the agenda. I do hate how sex, gay or hetero, is injected in to everything. Sex is private. Please keep it that way.

Posted by: NCKate at March 14, 2013 10:17 PM (n7zrG)

Yes. 1000 times yes.

The only sex life I am interested is mine and my wife's (and yes you perverts....they're the same).

Everyone else's is boring and sort of yucky. I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2013 06:19 PM (3Mkrp)

259

#$%#%#^@ SOCK!

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 14, 2013 06:20 PM (0R/EW)

260 King Crimson sucked elephant ass

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:20 PM (iOny9)

261 Sergeant at Arms Bannion! I believe the beehives are called for....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:20 PM (GEICT)

262 Moo moo is a troll. He's trying to fill his empty life by hurting Ace of Spades. He comes here, accuses everybody of hating gays, spews anti-Christian bigotry. His goal is to hurt the AceOfSpades community. His goal is to start circular firing squads. And if nothing else just hijack the thread and make it unpleasant. Come in and crap on the floor and hope the stink drives people away. I don't know what behavior counts as banhammer worthy, but Moo Moo is a repeat offender troll. He's not here to convince people of his, obviously fake, libertarian ideas. He's hire to divide people. This is his sad attempt at being a keyboard warrior for the leftist cause.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:20 PM (ZPrif)

263 Not to go all Burkean on y'all, but Â“It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.Â”

Posted by: Thorvald at March 14, 2013 06:20 PM (1V6Pv)

264 You don't really want to see what I'm concealing. It's pretty gross.

Posted by: Moo Moo's Muu Muu at March 14, 2013 06:20 PM (BBWjt)

265 #255, Wasn't Lark's Toungues the new KC lineup? Or is my memory shot?

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:20 PM (lbiWb)

266 This site regularly throttles liars, cowards, hypocrites, cheaters, phonies, bacon-haters, lawyers, Marxists, and sharply pointed elbows. Yet one person seems to see only one kind off target.

Posted by: eman at March 14, 2013 06:20 PM (64rcm)

267 As a practical matter for society, homosexuality is ultimately a death sentence. Morality aside, if a society is all gay, it would survive exactly one generation.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 14, 2013 06:20 PM (4Mv1T)

268 116 I was promised a magnitude 1 comet. Big Astronomy is ripping me off!

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 14, 2013 06:21 PM (0R/EW)

269 the ghey bs troop leaders. what could go worng?

Posted by: ghey on de brain at March 14, 2013 06:21 PM (UrENZ)

270 Everyone else's is boring and sort of yucky. I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2013 10:19 PM (3Mkrp) Yucky? Eh, probably. It's a messy business. But boring? Oh no my man, never that.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:21 PM (GEICT)

271 263 Moo moo is a troll. He's trying to fill his empty life by hurting Ace of Spades. He comes here, accuses everybody of hating gays, spews anti-Christian bigotry. His goal is to hurt the AceOfSpades community. His goal is to start circular firing squads. And if nothing else just hijack the thread and make it unpleasant. Come in and crap on the floor and hope the stink drives people away.

I don't know what behavior counts as banhammer worthy, but Moo Moo is a repeat offender troll. He's not here to convince people of his, obviously fake, libertarian ideas. He's hire to divide people. This is his sad attempt at being a keyboard warrior for the leftist cause.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 10:20 PM (ZPrif)

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Yawn.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:22 PM (HDgX3)

272 Flatbush Joe, you missed his hatred of veterans and police. He spewed it on the Dorner threads.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:22 PM (iOny9)

273 Btw, the ghey guy at work wears a Beretta jacket. Says he has one of their shotguns, too. He's a liberal, but sort of a country gentleman one, not a Gianni Versace one.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 14, 2013 06:22 PM (1V6Pv)

274

"Their passions forge their fetters.Â”

Or in modern English: "thinking w/the little head"

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:22 PM (lbiWb)

275 So being gay is a path of destructive behavior? Wow. Just wow.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 10:18 PM (HDgX3)

It's what he believes, and what his religion preaches.

Try to respect that, and maybe you will get some respect in return.

Just don't preach your amoral, Godless, humanity-free, free-sex crap.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2013 06:22 PM (3Mkrp)

276 >I was promised a magnitude 1 comet. Big Astronomy is ripping me off! Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 14, 2013 10:21 PM (0R/EW) well, I understand there's another comet later this year that is going to make Hale-Bopp look like a bottle rocket

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:23 PM (8sCoq)

277 Yet one person seems to see only one kind off target.

Posted by: eman at March 14, 2013 10:20 PM (64rcm)

I'm kind of a one off target!!!

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 06:23 PM (Dnbau)

278 So being gay is a path of destructive behavior? Wow. Just wow.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 10:18 PM

AIDS epidemic.

Posted by: huerfano at March 14, 2013 06:23 PM (bAGA/)

279 Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 10:18 PM (wsGWu) Thank you. You have distilled the last hour of my life into a concise, focused rant. THIS is why I come here. No BS. That and to hear MUMR use the word "metanoia" correctly in a sentence.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:23 PM (6wtM2)

280 ONT has only two rules: No arguing on the ONT. You guys had all day to argue pointlessly. Rule #2 Tits or GTFO

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:24 PM (0w+w3)

281 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 10:20 PM (ZPrif)

Just poke at him with a sharp stick....that's sort of fun when it gets boring around here.

He's unimportant, so don't sweat it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2013 06:24 PM (3Mkrp)

282 Can we get a B3K in here. This is really getting unpleasant. Wife walked past my office and said, "Did you pass gas??" And I said, 'No Honey. It is this thread. Mr Moo Moo has infected our ONT."

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 14, 2013 06:24 PM (4Mv1T)

283
Was Hillary wearing those crotchless underbritches? Or maybe those eatible kind?

Posted by: Larry the Cable Guy at March 14, 2013 06:24 PM (UrENZ)

284 THIS is why I come here. No BS. That and to hear MUMR use the word "metanoia" correctly in a sentence. Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 10:23 PM (6wtM2) I thought it was the bobbers?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:24 PM (GEICT)

285 >>>Wasn't Lark's Toungues the new KC lineup? Or is my memory shot?

Depends on what you mean by "new." The original lineup (from In The Court Of The Crimson King, 1969) was long-gone at that point, but there had been a second intervening live line-up (which also recorded the Islands album in 1971) in the meantime. It was something of a regressive step, however. The '72-'74 lineup was a quantum leap forward, however: great studio material, FANTASTIC concert performances (very improvisational, different from night-to-night), and talent at every position.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (/COnL)

286 The GOP has 2 options:

1. Keep fighting the abortion/gay losing battle.

2. Accept that the vast majority of the country doesn't care who sleeps with whom and also accepts that a 14 year old pregnant girl is better off getting an abortion than having the baby and fucking up her and her baby's life.

#1 = minority part for the next 50 years

#2 = a fighting chance to win elections in the next 50 years

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (HDgX3)

287 Rule #2

Tits or GTFO

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 10:24 PM (0w+w3)

well

OK you asked for it

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (Dnbau)

288 I like knockers

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (iOny9)

289 "So being gay is a path of destructive behavior? Wow. Just wow."

Yes, that's what's called the Christian faith. Granted you and most of our culture doesn't want to recognize there's still an authoritative Christian morality associated with Christianity, doesn't make any less so.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (Fz2C7)

290 But I don't see an so-con freaking out about any other types of sins commited by anyone. wei have seen this movie before

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (I88Jc)

291 soothsayer mr moo moo is now going to show you his moobs

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (GVxQo)

292 Really autocorrect? Bobbers???? *BOOBEHS*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (GEICT)

293 If there are gay people who believe in the primacy of individual freedom, limited government and free markets, I want them on my side.

****

Amen, Brother

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (SkyIE)

294 I respectfully submit that this is the way to educate the uninformed voter. This story is clear, understandable, to the point and affects not only the reasoning portion of the brain but the emotional center as well.

The story of Malala in comic form is an ideal model from which to work toward educating all the Gomer Pyle's in the USA about their own freedom and the peril it is in.

http://zenpencils.com/comic/104-malala-yousafzai-i-have-the-right/

Posted by: Sphynx at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (cll/q)

295 Paraphrasing Reagan, we're a people with a government, and not the other way around. The font of people is the family. "Wow, Brian and Gary, what a cute baby! She takes after her fathers." Not. Gonna. Happen. That's why Republicans should be against Gay "marriage." What perverts do in private is not my business, unless they make it so. Then I am perfectly free to call them perverts.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (1V6Pv)

296

Fine we're all sinners. But I don't see an so-con freaking out about any other types of sins commited by anyone. Seems to be all the fury is directed at one sin in particular. Odd

In other words, you don't know any in meat-space, nor do you hang out on sites that aren't libertarian/South Park Conservative. Otherwise you would know that pornography, pre-marital sex, marital infidelity, divorce, etc, are kind of big deals as well - as a matter of fact, in the real world they are a much more immediate problem and dealing with them occupies more a great deal more time than homosexuality.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 06:25 PM (P7nGQ)

297 Oh well. Time to read a zombie book.

Posted by: eman at March 14, 2013 06:26 PM (64rcm)

298 DR beating US 3-1 bottom of the 9th.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:26 PM (ZPrif)

299 Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 10:24 PM (0w+w3)

You are completely full of shit, and stop spouting your incorrect version of the ONT rules.

Although you are 50% correct.

http://tinyurl.com/a8a59s5

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2013 06:26 PM (3Mkrp)

300 Sergeant at Arms Bannion! I believe the beehives are called for.... No. This is a point target. HEAT-T will do nicely.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:26 PM (6wtM2)

301 ONT has only two rules: No arguing on the ONT. You guys had all day to argue pointlessly over shit which you have no control. Rule #2 Tits or GTFO

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:26 PM (yhYn1)

302 Like, uh, this thread is, uh, TOTALLY GHEY!

Posted by: Your Average Obama Voter at March 14, 2013 06:27 PM (zPVBH)

303 Who asked for tits? http://is.gd/byvpRV

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:27 PM (8sCoq)

304

Bobbers????

!!!!!Bobber on the knobber!!!!!!! Happy Steak and Blow Job Day!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 14, 2013 06:27 PM (UrENZ)

305 Hey, racist haters!!! Just finally watched the last few minutes of Rick Perry's CPAC address. I love that muthafucka. I wish he hadn't screwed it up last summer. He was my first choice and, God willing and the creek don't rise, maybe he'll have another shot.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:27 PM (AJM+z)

306 261 King Crimson sucked elephant ass

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 10:20 PM (iOny9)

Speaking of which...

Posted by: North American Man Elephant Love Association at March 14, 2013 06:27 PM (IDypm)

307 you really wanna see my tits? OK. Gotta get them off my shoes

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 06:27 PM (Dnbau)

308 LET'S TALK ABOUT MUSIC. FORGET ABOUT POLITICS.

I regret my earlier participation in the political bullshit. But I also blame Maet for tossing the initial chum into the water.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:27 PM (/COnL)

309 Fuck you, Moo Moo. What? You were all thinking it. Everyone is giving this asshole way too much attention. And being far too polite .

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 06:28 PM (0PiQ4)

310 Fine, here are some nice boobies.

http://tinyurl.com/2b5umlg

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 06:28 PM (zPVBH)

311 Hey Moo Moo. I don't shove my Junk under your nose and tell you to guess where it's been. Bumping uglies is a very personal and private thing. We would all be better off if it was kept that way. I don't give a fuck who you're schtupping behind closed doors. Do me a favor and don't tell me.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 14, 2013 06:28 PM (jucos)

312 You are completely full of shit, and stop spouting your incorrect version of the ONT rules. Although you are 50% correct. http://tinyurl.com/a8a59s5 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2013 10:26 PM (3Mkrp) http://tinyurl.com/8y4pm24

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:28 PM (GEICT)

313 oopsie

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:28 PM (0w+w3)

314 Always wondered why baseball doesn't get credit for having, by far, the most "diverse" rosters of all the major sports. No pro sport in the US more accurately mirrors US demographics. Yet the NBA is considered more "diverse" even though blacks are vastly over-represented and whites, asians, and hispanics are vastly under-represented. NBA is about as racially diverse as the NHL. And the NHL has much more diversity if you look at country of birth or language.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:29 PM (ZPrif)

315 politeness is the hallmark of the horde. Or something

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 06:29 PM (Dnbau)

316 Here's some boobies for ya

http://tinyurl.com/a4o35cd

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 06:29 PM (BBWjt)

317 310 Fuck you, Moo Moo. What? You were all thinking it I love you, L,elle

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:29 PM (6wtM2)

318 Always wondered why baseball doesn't get credit for having, by far, the most "diverse" rosters of all the major sports.

Because it's incredibly boring until October?

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:30 PM (AJM+z)

319 okay, 18-1 beat me to it

although it is an old Kratos gag

where has Kratos been, anyway?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 06:30 PM (BBWjt)

320 you really wanna see my tits? OK. Gotta get them off my shoes

Posted by: Helen "cooter

***********************

I truly hate you.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:31 PM (iOny9)

321 > LET'S TALK ABOUT MUSIC. FORGET ABOUT POLITICS. I like Garbage. (The band.) Bon Scott-era AC/DC and Surf Music. Twangy languid surf music.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:31 PM (8sCoq)

322 Jeff B, I'll talk music with you but I think you're older than me. King Crimson was way before my time. Do you like Zeppelin? Also, before me, but that's who I love.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 06:31 PM (0PiQ4)

323 Because it's incredibly boring until October? Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:30 PM (AJM+z) Now that's just not nice.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:31 PM (GEICT)

324 310 Fuck you, Moo Moo.

What? You were all thinking it.

Everyone is giving this asshole way too much attention. And being far too polite .

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 10:28 PM (0PiQ4)

___________________

And people wonder by Akin lost. Such a mystery.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:31 PM (HDgX3)

325 Yeah, Perry picked a bad time to have back surgery. And in 08 Teh Fred picked a bad time to be old and unable to stand for more than 10 minutes at a time. And DR just won.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:31 PM (ZPrif)

326 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 10:29 PM (ZPrif)

And what about us?

Posted by: The Jews at March 14, 2013 06:31 PM (3Mkrp)

327 Deep Purple? Anyone? From their forthcoming new album... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxPhHRDJ4TM

Posted by: Robert at March 14, 2013 06:32 PM (LUnTP)

328 Now that's just not nice.

Yeah, well, fuck you! Ahahaha, just kidding. How you doin', bro?

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:32 PM (AJM+z)

329

321you really wanna see my tits? OK. Gotta get them off my shoesPosted by: Helen

Ugghhh! Put them back! We can see your labia!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 14, 2013 06:32 PM (UrENZ)

330 My hole is unprotected and open for business.

Posted by: Eleanor's Clit at March 14, 2013 06:32 PM (wIgpo)

331 Even I wouldn't have wanted an asshole like Mr Moo Moo to have voted for me

Posted by: Todd Akin at March 14, 2013 06:33 PM (BBWjt)

332 Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 10:24 PM (0w+w3)

My response needed this:

Sorry

Posted by: The Jews at March 14, 2013 06:33 PM (3Mkrp)

333

#286...

Thanks. I knew the lineup had changed, but had forgotten @ Islands. Wasn't there something controversial about that one?

Prog Rock seems to be a bit "hip" nowadays - knowing that Freak Out would still be around nearly a half century later would've caused us to, quite literally, freak out...

(also a fan of Tangerine Dream, early Kraftwerk, and ELP's Tarkus...)

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:33 PM (lbiWb)

334 Sock fail.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2013 06:33 PM (3Mkrp)

335 I didn't know that about Bloom or Chambers, and frankly it's beside the point,

Posted by: archie goodwin at March 14, 2013 06:33 PM (Jsiw/)

336 Yeah, well, fuck you! Ahahaha, just kidding. How you doin', bro? Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:32 PM (AJM+z) Lord blessed me and mine with another day above ground. So can't complain too much!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:33 PM (GEICT)

337 >>>Deep Purple?

Anyone?

Have absolutely no time for them after Ritchie Blackmore left. But before then? Wooo boy.

I actually think their first three albums, with their original lead singer (the guy who did "Hush") are ridiculously underrated. The second and third ones in particular.

The boxed set Listen., Learn, Read On is amazing.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:33 PM (/COnL)

338 What is this moo moo thingy? We got a new troll? I thought I smelled cat pee . . .

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:34 PM (AJM+z)

339 You know, if we closed up the Dept of Education we could save some money and get rid of a massive taxpayer funded organization that promotes masturbation lessons, fisting lessons, free condoms, and acceptance of homosexuality all at once.

So-con/fi-con love in, eh?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 14, 2013 06:34 PM (VQ9KL)

340 Hi Sean! I'm Pope obsessed. It's becoming a problem. Do you like him? Sorry stupid Jesuits are upset everywhere.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 06:34 PM (0PiQ4)

341 321you really wanna see my tits? OK. Gotta get them off my shoesPosted by: Helen

Ugghhh! Put them back! We can see your labia!

Posted by: Cicero Kid

sorry...sometimes I get them confused

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 06:34 PM (Dnbau)

342 I think it's mainly because most people define "diverse" as just being non-white. So an all-black NBA team can count as diverse. But a 60% white, 15% black, 15% hispanic, and 5% asian MLB team is considered not diverse enough. They really just mean too white.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:34 PM (ZPrif)

343 I like Garbage. (The band.)
***
There is a world of difference between the quality of the first two albums and what has come since. Though I would include #1 Crush in the earlier work...and arguably their best song.

And...the bastard record company won't let youtube play the song.

Can we get Rand Paul to talk about what he would do about the RIAA?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 06:34 PM (zPVBH)

344 In other words, you don't know any in meat-space, nor do you hang out on sites that aren't libertarian/South Park Conservative. Otherwise you would know that pornography, pre-marital sex, marital infidelity, divorce, etc, are kind of big deals as well - as a matter of fact, in the real world they are a much more immediate problem and dealing with them occupies more a great deal more time than homosexuality.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 10:25 PM (P7nGQ)

______________

If you say so. I don't frequent so-con blogs so I'll take your word for it.

However in the arena of politics, I never hear anyone talk about divorce or pre-marital sex. However, abortion and the gheys seems to be front and center for so-con politicians as pressing issues.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:34 PM (HDgX3)

345 peaches!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 14, 2013 06:34 PM (GVxQo)

346

politeness is the hallmark of the horde. Or something

Politeness per se is not our strongpoint. OTOH, underneath all the sound and fury we do seem to argue a bit more logically than most other sites, I think, which shows a bit more underlying respect for each other than it might first appear. Maybe.

I dunno.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 06:34 PM (P7nGQ)

347 here are some nice boobies. http://tinyurl.com/2b5umlg Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 10:28 PM (zPVBH) I like the boobies, and skinks, and snipes. And I'm a fan of the honey badger.

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at March 14, 2013 06:34 PM (mkb9H)

348 339 What is this moo moo thingy? We got a new troll? I thought I smelled cat pee . . . Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:34 PM (AJM+z) It's nothing worth any effort.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:35 PM (GEICT)

349 >>>I'll talk music with you but I think you're older than me. King Crimson was way before my time. Do you like Zeppelin? Also, before me, but that's who I love.

I might not be that much older than you. I'm just a very retro sort of guy. (I was born in late 1980, for the record.)

Sure I love Zeppelin, but then again who doesn't?

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:35 PM (/COnL)

350 You know, if we closed up the Dept of Education
***
I'd call that a good start.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 06:35 PM (zPVBH)

351

Slayer

Sepultura

Ministry

Chevelle

Seether

Filter

Those are some bands

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:35 PM (iOny9)

352 Deep Purple?

Anyone?

I wore that shit out on the 8-track in my Volvo back in the 70s. To be fair, while I remember it fondly, and Highway Star was the fuckin' tits, I don't really miss it that much.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:36 PM (AJM+z)

353 339 What is this moo moo thingy? We got a new troll? I thought I smelled cat pee . . .

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:34 PM (AJM+z)

_______________

I got it. If I don't hate gays, I'm a troll.

PS: I've been here for over a year.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:36 PM (HDgX3)

354 Fill in the blanks. On November _____ , Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of ____________ and asked that he never return. That request came from his _________.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:36 PM (yhYn1)

355 PG!!!!! {{{{{{{}}}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:36 PM (AJM+z)

356 I listened to an old Hawkwind album today. Spacy...sucky. A lot of the 60's acid hasn't aged well at all

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 14, 2013 06:36 PM (mNCbk)

357 >>>(also a fan of Tangerine Dream, early Kraftwerk, and ELP's Tarkus...)

I notice the tragic failure to mention Can and Neu! when discussing Krautrock bands. SHAME.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:36 PM (/COnL)

358 Squeakholes are more important than boobies in the THE BRAVE NEW GHEY WORLD!!1!!!

Posted by: waldo truth at March 14, 2013 06:37 PM (3VhRQ)

359 @350 That'd be me. Never did. Uff da!

Posted by: Thorvald at March 14, 2013 06:37 PM (1V6Pv)

360 I got yer "Deep Purple" right here

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 06:37 PM (Dnbau)

361 Yeah, I saw your last one to me, asshole. And I'll say it again. Here ya go: Fuck You, Moo Moo.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 06:37 PM (0PiQ4)

362 352 Slayer Sepultura Ministry Chevelle Seether Filter Those are some bands Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 10:35 PM (iOny9) Nice list. I love Chevelle. Mostly because I saw them in concert and they were the most unpretentious band I've ever seen. 3 guys on a stage. No props. No pyro. No nothing. Just amps cranked to 11. And they tore the fucking place down.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:37 PM (GEICT)

363 351 You know, if we closed up the Dept of Education
***
I'd call that a good start.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 10:35 PM (zPVBH)

___________

Yep. Along with Commerce and Energy.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:37 PM (HDgX3)

364

#350, "I'm just a very retro sort of guy"

Sh***t. I was around for that stuff. Nothing like listning to Zappa on a Zenith AM/FM Real Transistor Radio...

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:38 PM (lbiWb)

365 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 10:36 PM (HDgX3)

go fuck yaself, eh? you have clearly offended the horde and that's good enough for me.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:38 PM (AJM+z)

366
Have to wonder if the increasing acrimony and general pissyness seen here lately doesn't have it's roots in the current political situation, with a side order of economic uncertainty thrown in.

Not making for a pleasant experience.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 14, 2013 06:38 PM (SAMxH)

367 WBC is actually a pretty good way to promote baseball. If I were MLB I'd be investing a lot in Brazil to try and grow the game. Apparently baseball is growing decently there. Obviously soccer dominates, but Brazil is a big country. Plenty of room for other sports.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:38 PM (ZPrif)

368 150 The problem is a deciding fraction of voters don't want to think.

This. Exactly this. I've talked with these people, and it is maddening. You can't get anywhere, because they explicitly resist thinking about any of this. They absolutely refuse to follow a logical train of thought. I blame Government/union education.

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 06:38 PM (bKA83)

369 362 Yeah, I saw your last one to me, asshole. And I'll say it again. Here ya go:

Fuck You, Moo Moo.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 10:37 PM (0PiQ4)

____________

I wonder why Todd Akin lost? One of those mysteries I guess we'll never solve. With this type of attitude he was a sure winner.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:38 PM (HDgX3)

370 I was listening to a song on the radio and I noticed it sounded a lot like The Police.

Then I noticed the refrain was something about Sexting.

Whatever happened to subtly?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 06:38 PM (zPVBH)

371 @365 The real thing. http://preview.tinyurl.com/b9m9rm3

Posted by: Thorvald at March 14, 2013 06:39 PM (1V6Pv)

372 Humble Pie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZMmV6xXYFw

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:39 PM (8sCoq)

373 >>>I'd call that a good start.<<<<

If the pros are scared to do it all at once (GOP hates kids!) they can start with modest cuts like oh--taking the fucking shotguns away from them maybe?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 14, 2013 06:40 PM (VQ9KL)

374 lordy I have tried and tried in this Helen "cooter" Thomas drag to lighten the mood. Its a dirty job

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 06:40 PM (Dnbau)

375 Hi Jeff B -- thanks for hitting me back. Name your favorite Zep track. Here's mine: When the Levee Breaks

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 06:40 PM (0PiQ4)

376 341 Hi Sean! I'm Pope obsessed. It's becoming a problem. Do you like him? Sorry stupid Jesuits are upset everywhere. Ameican Jesuits are upset, because he's an actual Jesuit instead of the caricature that American Jesuits have become. He embarrasses them just by being himself. L,elle drop me a note at my gmail. (link in nic) if you're interested in stuff to read about him. I'll send you some links.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:40 PM (6wtM2)

377 Neu! was Kraftwerke leicht. Of course KfW was downhill after that...

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:40 PM (lbiWb)

378 I said FILL IN THE BLANKS.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:40 PM (1WM2H)

379 Just finally watched the last few minutes of Rick Perry's CPAC address.... He was my first choice... Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:27 PM (AJM+z) Hi Peachy. I too like me teh Guv. RP. I was "pulling for him" before the deer in the headlights. Good guy. Loved. Loved. Rubio and Paul at CPAC today. LaPierre in the AM. And PS Cruz is, and has been, my new Fave.

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at March 14, 2013 06:40 PM (mkb9H)

380 >>>Sh***t. I was around for that stuff. Nothing like listning to Zappa on a Zenith AM/FM Real Transistor Radio...

As it happens (and you might have grokked this) I'm a crazy Zappa fan...but very specifically the early Mothers of Invention era (1966-1969). I love their live instrumental stuff the most...Uncle Meat, Burnt Weeny Sandwich, and the live stuff built around that material from 1968-1969.

"The Little House I Used To Live In" is, to my mind, the single finest thing Zappa ever wrote or recorded. INSPIRING.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:41 PM (/COnL)

381 So, hey, not to go all OT while we're dancing around the edges of a flamewar, but am I the only one who wanted to commit seppuku over this fucking Wes Welker thing? Brady frees up the cap and then this? THIS??? I am not a happy peaches today. This blows.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:41 PM (AJM+z)

382 Axle Foley's apartment number in Beverly Hills Cop is 314.

Posted by: alex® at March 14, 2013 06:41 PM (m9cpE)

383 1980s Ministry. Fuck yeah.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 14, 2013 06:42 PM (bS6uW)

384 Fuck you Moo Moo. Asshole. Go fuck your own self. Ain't no one else gonna do it for you.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 06:42 PM (0PiQ4)

385 Mile Oldfield w/ Tarja Turunen - Never Too Far http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRwXG7PrEgQ

Posted by: Robert at March 14, 2013 06:42 PM (LUnTP)

386 #372... v. good.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:42 PM (lbiWb)

387 Rubio needs to invest in better hair plugs. Call Biden for advice. He's got 3 years to let em grow in.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:42 PM (ZPrif)

388

BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk, Chevelle is one of the few bands I didn't pick to hit it fairly big.

No I don't think I'm some talent guru. It's just that some of these bands are so good, it' shard not go guess right.

For anyone into spacey rock/wall of sound I suggest Kyuss.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:42 PM (iOny9)

389 am I the only one who wanted to commit seppuku over this fucking Wes Welker thing? Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:41 PM (AJM+z) My Broncos cap is all choked up.

Posted by: alex® at March 14, 2013 06:42 PM (m9cpE)

390 New Order. The Cure. Kate Bush.

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 06:42 PM (Dnbau)

391 @380 Not sure about finest, but it is truly sublime.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 14, 2013 06:43 PM (1V6Pv)

392

> LET'S TALK ABOUT MUSIC. FORGET ABOUT POLITICS.

I like Garbage. (The band.)
Bon Scott-era AC/DC

I worked with a kid who said he liked 'old AC/DC like Flick of the Switch'

Had to explain that was about their seventh album...second lead singer.

Posted by: spc at March 14, 2013 06:43 PM (CtffS)

393 384 Fuck you Moo Moo. Asshole. Go fuck your own self. Ain't no one else gonna do it for you.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 10:42 PM (0PiQ4)

_______________

AKIN / MOURDOCK 2016!!!!

We can't lose.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:43 PM (HDgX3)

394 There was no flamewar. Just a troll trying to start one. And it failed.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:43 PM (ZPrif)

395 For God's sake, can't we have some nice, clean debauchery without the purity wars? Purge the heretics and god-botherers on a daytime thread, please.

Posted by: joncelli at March 14, 2013 06:43 PM (CWlPF)

396 322 I like Garbage. (The band.)
Bon Scott-era AC/DC
and Surf Music. Twangy languid surf music.

One of my favorite part of that crashing Internet phenom movie "Snakes on a Plane," other than the frisson of excitement that the Internet geeks sort of made a movie happen, was that opening Donovan Frankenreiter song. I can't claim to be a surf music fan, but that was pretty awesome and happy. Also on YouTube, somewhere, is a wonderful Jack Johnson and Ben [the guy who did Steal My Kisses] duet. Very intense song. I'll try to dig it up if anyone cares.

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 06:44 PM (bKA83)

397 Now abortion...but gheys!? the breakdown of families in the black community is an issue those socons just waited for libertarians to lead the way all these years

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 06:44 PM (I88Jc)

398 Joy Division / New Order
The Smiths
The Cure
Depeche Mode

Basically anything British early 80s to 1987ish

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:44 PM (HDgX3)

399 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 06:44 PM (JMmQ9)

400 linky in nic no worky, Sean I get error message.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 06:44 PM (0PiQ4)

401 I believe gay sex is a sin, and gay marriage is destructive. But I also believe it should be acceptable for individual states to legalize gay marriage. Just like states should be able to legalize prostitution, drinking in public, gambling, and eating ice cream on Sundays. Because none of that is a federal issue. See the fucking 10th Amendment. Those are moral issues, and moral legislation is a states rights issue. I am so sick of the Rick Santorm crowd, several of which are here tonight, demanding that we disregard the 10th Amendment and impose a national ban on gay marriage. And anyone who dares suggest gay marriage be left to the states (which is all the GOProud pillow biters want) is deemed to be an anti-Christian bigot. Next you scolds will castigate DaveinTexas for posting busty cheerleader pics.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2013 06:44 PM (76Gx5)

402 New Order. The Cure. Kate Bush. All good x-ing music back in the day.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 14, 2013 06:44 PM (bS6uW)

403 1980s Ministry. Fuck yeah.

Posted by: Blacksheep

***********

Thieves and liars...

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:44 PM (iOny9)

404 y'all think you got it bad? i am looking at a dinner of string cheese and cocktail peanuts. again. because i am too fuckin' cheap to call out for the chicky parm and i am too frazzled to have stocked up last weekend. dammit, help me out here, horde, should i chicky parm or should i eat like a hobo?

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:45 PM (AJM+z)

405 It's like I'm reading backwards....I'm trying to get stuff done

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 06:45 PM (kaalw)

406

"early Mothers of Invention era "

All over that. Saw FZ & the MoI at the Syria Mosque back in the day... at least I think I did.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:45 PM (lbiWb)

407 >>>New Order. The Cure. Kate Bush.

Power, Corruption & Lies or get the fuck out.

"Leave Me Alone" is the single greatest thing New Order ever did. True or false?

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:45 PM (/COnL)

408 Politeness per se is not our strongpoint. OTOH, underneath all the sound and fury we do seem to argue a bit more logically than most other sites, I think, which shows a bit more underlying respect for each other than it might first appear. Maybe. I would agree. Most if the time here you get one or two friendly warning shots to clue you in that you're stepping on your dick. If you can't see that, and dont take the hint, then you deserve everything you get after that. If you're a bright Moron...it only takes once. Been there, done that. Got the welts.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:45 PM (6wtM2)

409 401 I believe gay sex is a sin, and gay marriage is destructive. But I also believe it should be acceptable for individual states to legalize gay marriage. Just like states should be able to legalize prostitution, drinking in public, gambling, and eating ice cream on Sundays. Because none of that is a federal issue. See the fucking 10th Amendment. Those are moral issues, and moral legislation is a states rights issue.

I am so sick of the Rick Santorm crowd, several of which are here tonight, demanding that we disregard the 10th Amendment and impose a national ban on gay marriage. And anyone who dares suggest gay marriage be left to the states (which is all the GOProud pillow biters want) is deemed to be an anti-Christian bigot.

Next you scolds will castigate DaveinTexas for posting busty cheerleader pics.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2013 10:44 PM (76Gx5)

________

TROLL!!

Why do you hate Christians?

Oh did I already call you a troll? TROLL!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:46 PM (HDgX3)

410 Next you scolds will castigate DaveinTexas for posting busty cheerleader pics.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2013 10:44 PM (76Gx5)

ya goof, that will never happen!

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:46 PM (AJM+z)

411 404 y'all think you got it bad? i am looking at a dinner of string cheese and cocktail peanuts. again. because i am too fuckin' cheap to call out for the chicky parm and i am too frazzled to have stocked up last weekend. dammit, help me out here, horde, should i chicky parm or should i eat like a hobo? Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:45 PM (AJM+z) Go for the good shit! Love me some good chicken parm.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:46 PM (GEICT)

412 Oh, and Deep Purple? I can't believe Ritchie Blackmore is still around - much less alive.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (lbiWb)

413 I'm watching a 30-minute YouTube video of live coverage of the STS-51L Challenger launch. This was assembled from a variety of sources by "lunarmodule5". His YouTube page is full of amazing vintage TV coverage of space flights, often accompanied by NASA audio including spacecraft voice communications and flight director's loops. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdWlcmnFIuI

Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (sdi6R)

414 New Order. The Cure. Kate Bush.

Posted by: thunderb

********

Joy Division, New Order, The Cure -Disintigration (incredible)

The 80's and 90's had some fantastic music.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (iOny9)

415 You can't get anywhere, because they explicitly resist thinking about any of this.
***
ME: So, economy has been in the crapper since about 2008 hasn't it?

LIV: Yep. That damn Bush!

ME: So...he was president since 2001, right?

LIV: Yeah, that bastard! I remember when he attacked Iran because they were hording yellow cakes!

Me: Uh...So he was president for 6 years and the economy was fine...right?

LIV: No the economy sucked. I mean I had that great job until 2008, but it sucked for everyone else, right?

Me: Sigh. Ok who ran the congress when the economy imploded in 2008?

LIV: Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.

Me; Not, Obama, Pelosi and Reid?

LIV: The president? He was in congress? Who are the other two?

Me: Sigh.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (zPVBH)

416 Been there, done that. Got the welts. Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 10:45 PM (6wtM2) Be honest, you didn't get those from the Horde.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (GEICT)

417 ***********Thieves and liars... One of a great many bad ass industrial thrash hits they had, one right after the other. Their concerts were off the chain.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (bS6uW)

418 Peaches: why not hobo parm?

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (JMmQ9)

419 "Leave Me Alone" is the single greatest thing New Order ever did. True or false?

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 10:45 PM (/COnL)

__________

Get Ready was da bomb. An all around awesome album.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (HDgX3)

420 >Had to explain that was about their seventh album...second lead singer. Posted by: spc at March 14, 2013 10:43 PM (CtffS) Not to say I DON'T like the Gen2 of AC/DC. "Shoot To Thrill" kicks ass. But Bon Scott's vocals were unmistakeable and had a unique sound. The other guy (can't even remember his name) often mistakes shrieking for singing.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (8sCoq)

421 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 10:46 PM (GEICT)

dammit, cochran, i love you so much it brings a tear to my eye. all i needed was one tiny push . . .dialing now . . . bless you, my friend!

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (AJM+z)

422 400 linky in nic no worky, Sean sbannion. At. Gmail.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:47 PM (6wtM2)

423 The Smithereens A GIRL LIKE YOU great tune -- good for strippuhs

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:48 PM (KeJAW)

424 >>>Hi Jeff B -- thanks for hitting me back. Name your favorite Zep track.

Here's mine: When the Levee Breaks

Fucker. You named mine too. Hell, I think it's a lot of people's favorite Zep track.

I'd also nominate "Four Sticks" (a weird choice, I know) or maybe "For Your Life."

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:48 PM (/COnL)

425 Oooh baseball!.I hate the new CBA. It killed the Ranger's Latin American dominance.

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 06:48 PM (wsGWu)

426 404 y'all think you got it bad? i am looking at a dinner of string cheese and cocktail peanuts. again. because i am too fuckin' cheap to call out for the chicky parm and i am too frazzled to have stocked up last weekend. dammit, help me out here, horde, should i chicky parm or should i eat like a hobo?

Damn. If you lived in my area, and if I weren't a happily married man, I'd regard that as an emergency call, and come over and cook some sichuan food that would make you swear off this sort of dinner for good.

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 06:48 PM (bKA83)

427 I'm one of those sincerely bummed that Google is killing off Google Reader. It's the main tool I use to access the internet. It's very useful for info junkies.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:48 PM (ZPrif)

428 Joy Division or New Order?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:48 PM (HDgX3)

429

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:45 PM (AJM+z)

Too late for chicken parm. u gonna give urself heartburn.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 14, 2013 06:48 PM (UrENZ)

430 Range 1370, wind full value left 15. Target full of s**t.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 14, 2013 06:48 PM (1V6Pv)

431 Moo Moo admitting defeat by changing subjects to music. Your taste in music sucks, asshole. Fuck you. Go away, ONT troll.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 06:49 PM (0PiQ4)

432 Peaches, chicky parm. Life is short.

Posted by: NCKate at March 14, 2013 06:49 PM (n7zrG)

433 >>>Get Ready was da bomb. An all around awesome album.

Meh. I thought the lead single ("Crystal") was crap, and the only thing I really like from that record was the last song (and least "New Order-y" one), "Run Wild."

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:49 PM (/COnL)

434 Be honest, you didn't get those from the Horde. Yes I did. You forgot who you were talking to. Now....if it were L,elle you'd have a point.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:49 PM (6wtM2)

435 431 Moo Moo admitting defeat by changing subjects to music.

Your taste in music sucks, asshole. Fuck you. Go away, ONT troll.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 10:49 PM (0PiQ4)

___________________

Too gay for you?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:49 PM (HDgX3)

436 1st wave. Greatest radio station ever, or proof that Madison needs to be shot. Discuss.

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 06:50 PM (wsGWu)

437 y'all think you got it bad? i am looking at a dinner of string cheese and cocktail peanuts. again. because i am too fuckin' cheap to call out for the chicky parm and i am too frazzled to have stocked up last weekend. dammit, help me out here, horde, should i chicky parm or should i eat like a hobo?

Posted by: Peaches

*****

Be thankful you have a choice. My doctor's eyes bugged out when she saw my cholestrol levels.

Helllooooo canned chicken, tuna, raw carrots etc.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:50 PM (iOny9)

438 Screw it, I'm going all in.

Abort the gays.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 14, 2013 06:50 PM (xKC/c)

439 dammit, cochran, i love you so much it brings a tear to my eye. all i needed was one tiny push . . .dialing now . . . bless you, my friend! Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:47 PM (AJM+z)

Good food helps a lot of things.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:50 PM (GEICT)

440

If you say so. I don't frequent so-con blogs so I'll take your word for it.However in the arena of politics, I never hear anyone talk about divorce or pre-marital sex. However, abortion and the gheys seems to be front and center for so-con politicians as pressing issues

Abortion is always going to be front-and-center, because it involves the ongoing deaths of innocents.

The normalization of pre-marital sex and the increasing numbers of divorces have been a matter of grave concern for decades - I heard a lot more about that than homosexuality growing up in the 80s and 90s. That particular front is more a cultural question than a political one and it is a war we have largely lost at the moment. Gay marriage get the most public at the moment attention because if it is passed than it will radically change the definition of marriage for the foreseeable future - at the moment, our ideals are at least honored in the breach - and losing this battle will make going back much, much harder, and because it is a political issue as well as a cultural issue.

There is also the not-inconsiderable problem that legalized gay marriage can be used a weapon to destroy religious institutions, which makes it a very pressing concern indeed.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 06:50 PM (P7nGQ)

441

#407, What's "new order"?

Zep is good, no matter what. Live Zep even better...

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:50 PM (lbiWb)

442 Well, ok, I do like "Kashmir". No, really, I do.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 14, 2013 06:51 PM (1V6Pv)

443 Thunderb, the Helen cooter Thomas socks are hilarious. Thanks!

Posted by: Museisluse at March 14, 2013 06:51 PM (DGx2X)

444 >The Smithereens A GIRL LIKE YOU great tune -- good for strippuhs The girls at The Hangar Club always liked "Black Velvet" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkXNEmtf9tk

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:51 PM (8sCoq)

445 The first Crystal Method CD is a must own.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 14, 2013 06:51 PM (bS6uW)

446 Meh. I thought the lead single ("Crystal") was crap, and the only thing I really like from that record was the last song (and least "New Order-y" one), "Run Wild."

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 10:49 PM (/COnL)

_______________

That's what I liked about the album it was New Order but adapted for the time (2000/2001). The reaction was pretty black or white. People either hated it or loved it, not much in between.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:51 PM (HDgX3)

447 New Archer episode tonight. Just waiting for the Gods of the Internet to upload it. Don't quite understand why people spend their time to make the internet the world's biggest DVR for me, but I'm glad they do.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:51 PM (ZPrif)

448 f I weren't a happily married man, I'd regard that as an emergency call, and come over and cook some sichuan food that would make you swear off this sort of dinner for good.

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 10:48 PM (bKA83)

aren't you just the darlin-est thing ever? although 1) the chicky parm is damn good and 2) i don't cook in my apartment because ew ick i do not like food smells in my stuff. like a true moron, i believe that cooking is best done outdoors. away from my textiles.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:51 PM (AJM+z)

449 Now....if it were L,elle you'd have a point. Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 10:49 PM (6wtM2) If it was L, Elle, there wouldn't be welts, there'd be handprints.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:52 PM (GEICT)

450 437 Be thankful you have a choice. My doctor's eyes bugged out when she saw my cholestrol levels. Helllooooo canned chicken, tuna, raw carrots etc

If you've got it in you to drop the carbs, chances are you can eat steak and pastrami and bacon and butter all day, and come through your next cholesterol test with flying colors. Eating like that sends your triglycerides way way down.

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 06:52 PM (bKA83)

451 299---" DR beating US 3-1 bottom of the 9th." Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 10:26 PM (ZPrif) ---------------- Dang. Was that the final score? Didn't see the game since we're watching the ACC basketball tournament. We did catch the DR vs PRico game the other night though.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2013 06:52 PM (C8mVl)

452 >>>All over that. Saw FZ the MoI at the Syria Mosque back in the day... at least I think I did.

Heh. I envy you (hell, if I'd been you I'd have taped that bitch). But I have a literally 100% complete collection of all FZ&MOI shows that openly circulate from 1966-1969, and I can't get enough of that stuff. It got more and more exclusively instrumental as 1968 went along, to the point where the only time anyone sang in 1969 was to perform dumb parody versions of old '50s doo-wop bullshit...but the instrumental and compositional stuff? Just breathtakingly beautiful. "Dog Breath," "Uncle Meat," "Mr. Green Genes," the "Orange County Lumber Truck" medley, "Little House I Used To Live In," etc....incredible material.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:53 PM (/COnL)

453 424 >>>Hi Jeff B -- thanks for hitting me back. Name your favorite Zep track.

Here's mine: When the Levee Breaks

Fucker. You named mine too. Hell, I think it's a lot of people's favorite Zep track.

I'd also nominate "Four Sticks" (a weird choice, I know) or maybe "For Your Life."

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 10:48 PM (/COnL)

I thought I was the only one who liked "Presence" -- it's my favorite Zep album. But, for me, the first track I think of is Nobody's Fault but Mine.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 06:53 PM (kaalw)

454 >dammit, help me out here, horde, should i chicky parm or should i eat like a hobo? don't ask me- I had a cheese sandwich and a Diet Coke for dinner

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:53 PM (8sCoq)

455 Modest Mouse
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:53 PM (HDgX3)

456

"The girls at The Hangar Club always liked "Black Velvet""

Crappy song. Ms. Myles, OTOH... would've done baaaad things to.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:53 PM (lbiWb)

457 The Smithereens

A GIRL LIKE YOU

great tune -- good for strippuhs

Posted by: soothsayer

*****

Blood and Roses. WTF man?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:53 PM (iOny9)

458 The Bible miniseries on History Channel kicks ass. Very well done. Definitely going to buy the CD set after it's over.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 14, 2013 06:53 PM (bS6uW)

459 "am I the only one who wanted to commit seppuku over this fucking Wes Welker thing? Brady frees up the cap and then this?"

They didn't free up the cap for Welker. Quarterbacks like Brady or Aaron make receivers look good, you just plug another one into the system.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 06:53 PM (Fz2C7)

460 If it was L, Elle, there wouldn't be welts, there'd be handprints. I stand corrected.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 06:54 PM (6wtM2)

461 My doctor's eyes bugged out when she saw my cholestrol levels.
Helllooooo canned chicken, tuna, raw carrots etc

You need a new doc . . . this one is obviously trying to kill you.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 06:54 PM (AJM+z)

462 Best Zep - Over the Hills and Far Away

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 14, 2013 06:54 PM (bS6uW)

463 Just checked barnhardt.biz for Ann's reaction to the new Pope, and let's say she throws some cold water on the notion that he's a conservative (in the church sense) looking to clean up the mess. She didn't mention much I hadn't at least heard rumors of elsewhere save one point.

This guy came in second last time. Which means he was the candidate of the opposition to Ratzinger.

Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2013 06:54 PM (hO9ad)

464
Not that anyone is interested, but older granddaughter and I spent most of the afternoon tying dry flies. Taught her the basics she took right off and what a talent she shows.

I'll be perfectly content if things like this are my legacy.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 14, 2013 06:55 PM (SAMxH)

465 Happy π Day everyone! Here is the π song by Hard Â‘n Phirm ttp://politicalhat.com/?p=1685

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 14, 2013 06:55 PM (Vk2pI)

466 thanks museisluse.

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 06:56 PM (Dnbau)

467 DR won 3-1. But game was just for seeding. Both US and DR advance to the final group with Japan and the, surprise, Netherlands. It just means US has to play Japan in the semis. Presumably to get a chance to play DR again in the finals.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 06:56 PM (ZPrif)

468 >Fucker. You named mine too. Hell, I think it's a lot of people's favorite Zep track. I like "Heartbreaker/Living Loving Maid" Two separate songs that rock radio never plays separately

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 06:56 PM (8sCoq)

469 460 If it was L, Elle, there wouldn't be welts, there'd be handprints. ------------------------- I stand corrected. Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 10:54 PM (6wtM2) And she'd be begging for another. Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 06:56 PM (GEICT)

470 If you've got it in you to drop the carbs, chances are you can eat steak and pastrami and bacon and butter all day, and come through your next cholesterol test with flying colors. Eating like that sends your triglycerides way way down.

Posted by: Splunge

***

I plan to try the pussy way first and see what happens.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:56 PM (iOny9)

471 >>>#407, What's "new order"?

Oh no you din't.

New Order was the successor band to Joy Division, one of the founding godfathers of postpunk (1977-1980), whose career came to an abrupt end when lead singer/lyricist Ian Curtis hanged himself. The rest of the group decided to carry on, renamed themselves, and eventually became the literal creators of the dance/club scene in the 1980's, whilst retaining their postpunk roots for several years. Their 1980-1984 music is really the stuff I cherish the most, though they were one of the all-time great singles groups well into the early '90s.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:56 PM (/COnL)

472 I got Get Ready playing now.
Still kicks ass 12 years later.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 06:57 PM (HDgX3)

473

"It got more and more exclusively instrumental "

to the point of being a bit too self indulgent, but FZ seemed to know how to reign it in. Brilliant showman, BTW. One of the two best frontmen I ever saw/heard...

(guess the other one)

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 06:57 PM (lbiWb)

474 @438 I can see the potential there... the abortion satisfies those who are obligate child murderers. The number of gheys won't change much if and when there's an in utero test, since the stamp them out by the hundreds in places like S.F., Minneapolis, and NYC. All it takes with some guys is soy milk lattes and some 420.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 14, 2013 06:57 PM (1V6Pv)

475 >>>Best Zep - Over the Hills and Far Away

Dammit, how could I have forgotten that? Also, "Dancing Days" from that same album is a big favorite.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 06:57 PM (/COnL)

476 Very nice choice on the Oldfield, Robert -- hmmm, the computer says I have 27 albums of his.....probably quite a few double-counted.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 06:57 PM (kaalw)

477 Oh and thanks Splunge. I'll keep that in mind.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 06:58 PM (iOny9)

478 New Archer episode tonight. Just waiting for the Gods of the Internet to upload it. Don't quite understand why people spend their time to make the internet the world's biggest DVR for me, but I'm glad they do.

*Remembers to check DVR*
*Hits play*

Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2013 06:58 PM (hO9ad)

479 470 ***I plan to try the pussy way first and see what happens.

What happens is that you begin to resent life itself. But in the Obama era, you may not notice any difference.

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 06:58 PM (bKA83)

480 SHAKIN by Eddie Money is also a great strippuh song.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:58 PM (GcwH1)

481 Hell yes, Jeff B! Bonham on those drums and Plant at his finest on those vocals. And Jimmy and JPJ as always on those guitars. I like your 2nd two. Only a fan could appreciate those. What range! Hey, do you know anything modern that's good? I'm listening to embarrassing music now. Somebody put up Rock Sugar on the ONT. it's pretty much crap but it works somehow. I need something else.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 06:58 PM (0PiQ4)

482

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:51 PM (AJM+z)

Hey! What about me!

Posted by: Peanut butter and jelly with merlot at March 14, 2013 06:59 PM (UrENZ)

483 I'm not seeing Moo Moo as a troll. He's just not a Christian, like most Americans in truth (i.e, not poll responses; personal savior standard). I'm a Protestant (incidentally, I left the Presbyterian USA because it got all gay happy), and I think all you Catholics are going to hell anyway, but you didn't see me shitting all over the pope threads. Too many thin skinned people here. It's getting warm. Like hot air all around us. Watch out for Captain Ed Morrisey.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2013 06:59 PM (76Gx5)

484 Best Zep is When the Levee Breaks, although I really like the B-side of The Immigrant Song, I can never remember the actual name of the song. "Hey, hey, what can I say..." or words to that effect. Acoustic, and righteously fantastic.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 06:59 PM (JMmQ9)

485 Metallica and Poison made some good strippuh misic too. AC/DC too.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 06:59 PM (0w+w3)

486 L, elle, I've given up on modern music, but I'm worried mT kids think the Talking Heads are a hot new thing.

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 07:00 PM (wsGWu)

487 Angus Young, not gay.

Posted by: nip at March 14, 2013 07:00 PM (11Tdq)

488 and let's say she throws some cold water on the notion that he's a conservative
***
Hey, if we are to believe a probably forged medieval document this Pope will be the last Pope...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 07:00 PM (zPVBH)

489 whoot, Lena Dunham is going to be in Playboy. They better have some real hotties to makle up for her -7 gack!

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 14, 2013 07:01 PM (zzeVM)

490 New Order was the successor band to Joy Division, one of the founding godfathers of postpunk (1977-1980), whose career came to an abrupt end when lead singer/lyricist Ian Curtis hanged himself. The rest of the group decided to carry on, renamed themselves, and eventually became the literal creators of the dance/club scene in the 1980's, whilst retaining their postpunk roots for several years. Their 1980-1984 music is really the stuff I cherish the most, though they were one of the all-time great singles groups well into the early '90s.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 10:56 PM (/COnL)

_________

I'll add to that....Blue Monday by New Order was the best selling 12" of all time.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:01 PM (HDgX3)

491 This is good, imho: http://preview.tinyurl.com/cnuwme2

Posted by: Thorvald at March 14, 2013 07:01 PM (1V6Pv)

492 Catching up, BC, are you talkin about me? Hey, btw, I love muscle cars too.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 07:01 PM (0PiQ4)

493 Stripper music? There can be only one..... http://youtu.be/0UIB9Y4OFPs

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:01 PM (GEICT)

494 I'm sure the GOP is happy the college of cardinals picked their new leader without delay.

Posted by: Cristoph at March 14, 2013 07:01 PM (tOkJB)

495 484 "Hey, hey, what can I say..." or words to that effect. Acoustic, and righteously fantastic.

"Hey hey what can I do, I got a woman, she won't be true"? That one? Completely awesome. And I love the acoustic intro. That song lets you know it's special in the first 5 seconds.

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 07:02 PM (bKA83)

496 >>>Modest Mouse
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth

1.) Don't care for Modest Mouse
2.) Like any good hipster I like Dinosaur, Jr. immensely -- also one of the very, very, VERY few acts to successfully reunite with a studio LP as good as their previous shit.
3.) Sonic Youth are such a weird fucking band. I must be one of the few people in the world who unironically enjoys their "horrible noise" period (i.e. Confusion Is Sex/Kill Yr. Idols), but everything else until Sister is garbage with the exception of "Expressway To Yr. Skull." Suddenly, Sister shows real promise and then -- how the fuck did THIS happen?? -- Daydream Nation turns them into a monstrously anthemic band.

But...they sorta fall apart for me after that. The next two have some good tracks, but only Washing Machine really excites me.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:02 PM (/COnL)

497 Leslie West and Mountain . . . they were the shit. I might be old, but I got to see and hear the best music that ever happened. I even remember some of it.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:02 PM (AJM+z)

498 Not to say I DON'T like the Gen2 of AC/DC. "Shoot To Thrill" kicks ass. But Bon Scott's vocals were unmistakeable and had a unique sound. The other guy (can't even remember his name) often mistakes shrieking for singing.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 10:47 PM

Yeah, AC/DC pretty much finished for me after Scott gurgled. Don't like Johnson's vox. I still wonder what might have been if Scott's mentor had replaced him instead of that other guy. Wright had a very similar vocal style to Scott. Teh drugs fucked that option up, apparently. Could have been good.

Posted by: otho at March 14, 2013 07:02 PM (yBF/9)

499

#471 - yes, I did. Never into the postpunk, but did wander into CBGBs in '73.

Ok, best Zep? Hello Mary Lou.

Page went into full radiofreakinactive meltdown on Gene Pitney's licks. Find one of the bootleg versions - they blow away the one released @ 10 years ago. (and it wasn't bad)

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 07:02 PM (lbiWb)

500 Catching up, BC, are you talkin about me? Hey, btw, I love muscle cars too. Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 11:01 PM (0PiQ4) Well, we were talking spankings, so...

And yeah, cars are plenty fun.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:02 PM (GEICT)

501 489 whoot,
Lena Dunham is going to be in Playboy.

You sure it wasn't Playgirl?

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 07:03 PM (bKA83)

502 483 I'm not seeing Moo Moo as a troll. He's just not a Christian, like most Americans in truth (i.e, not poll responses; personal savior standard). I'm a Protestant (incidentally, I left the Presbyterian USA because it got all gay happy), and I think all you Catholics are going to hell anyway, but you didn't see me shitting all over the pope threads.

Too many thin skinned people here. It's getting warm. Like hot air all around us. Watch out for Captain Ed Morrisey.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2013 10:59 PM (76Gx5)

_______________

I'm not a "Christian". I put that in quotes because I guess technically I am Christian. I was baptized.

This is one thing that annoys the shit out of me about religion. If you don't agree with someone who is religious, you are automatically anti-religion. Which is such bullshit. I'm fine with gay marriage. I'm fine with abortion. But if I say this to a Christian, immediately I am accuse of being anti-Christian or anti-religion. It's so bizarre.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:04 PM (HDgX3)

503 What happens is that you begin to resent life itself. But in the Obama era, you may not notice any difference.

Posted by: Splunge

*********

That's ok I have some of those eeeevil assault rifles to blow off steam with at the range.

L, elle, 1968 GS CA 350 under restoration here.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:04 PM (iOny9)

504 a overnight thread a 9? is that like opening a movie on thursday to get a huge opening "weekend"?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:04 PM (Z9EHQ)

505

493Stripper music?
There can be only one

Yep.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 07:05 PM (lbiWb)

506 Y5!!!! xoxoxoxo!!!

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:05 PM (AJM+z)

507 please we just started having fun again

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 07:05 PM (Dnbau)

508

Metallica and Poison made some good strippuh misic too.

AC/DC too.

I'm gonna change my name to Cinnabuns and dance naked to Motley Cru records!

/old Chris Rock joke

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 14, 2013 07:05 PM (DsPRa)

509 >Lena Dunham is going to be in Playboy. You sure it wasn't Playgirl? Field & Stream

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 07:06 PM (8sCoq)

510

There's about 8-10% of NRA members who seem very confused about what gun rights mean...

That's one possibility. A different one is that one out of ten people who claim to be a member of the NRA is flying a false flag.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at March 14, 2013 07:06 PM (+rSRq)

511 1.) Don't care for Modest Mouse

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 11:02 PM (/COnL)

____________

NOOOOOOOOOO!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:06 PM (HDgX3)

512 It's only 9 for you west coast hipster types ... it's going on the middle of the night here in flyover country.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 14, 2013 07:07 PM (bS6uW)

513 >>>Brilliant showman, BTW. One of the two best frontmen I ever saw/heard...
(guess the other one)

Gonna have to ask you to reveal this one for me, as there are just too many possible answers. Me? I'd nominate Townshend and Daltrey in conjunction.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:07 PM (/COnL)

514 I like the stuff these guys have done:

http://www.youtube.com/user/PomplamooseMusic

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 07:07 PM (kaalw)

515 Poison sucked the sweat off a dead man's balls.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:07 PM (iOny9)

516 I'll be perfectly content if things like this are my legacy. Posted by: irongrampa at March 14, 2013 10:55 PM And if you can teach her how to work a dwell/tach, shoot the timing, dial in a cam, or re-build a 4 bbl... Do you have any project cars for the spring, or are you just going to be stylin' 'round town in the Finer Forty-Niner?

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 07:07 PM (JMmQ9)

517 a little bit of ambivalence here, my grandma, who I love, insisted on voting for obama in order to ease her mind about never having owned slaves and making up for all her racist sven and ole jokes, the way she never lynched anyone, never held a position in the klan, and never burned a cross, is now having all of her medicare effed up as part of obamacare's redistributionist reparations plan. I hate to say I told you so grandma, but I did.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:08 PM (Z9EHQ)

518 509 >Lena Dunham is going to be in Playboy.

You sure it wasn't Playgirl?

Field & Stream

Zooology Today

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 07:08 PM (bKA83)

519 Poison sucked the sweat off a dead man's balls.

That makes it sound like they improved over time.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 14, 2013 07:08 PM (xKC/c)

520 that fucking Moo Moo is still here? No, I have no problem with gays. I hope your gettin in your ass alot.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 07:08 PM (0PiQ4)

521 "But if I say this to a Christian, immediately I am accuse of being anti-Christian or anti-religion. It's so bizarre."

Poor you. "Why is everybody always picking on me when I only go out of my way to mock Christians and their beliefs? You guys are so mean."

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 07:08 PM (Fz2C7)

522 8 - 10% of free speech absolutists are against allowing dunaham to pose nude.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:09 PM (Z9EHQ)

523 Hey, if we are to believe a probably forged medieval document this Pope will be the last Pope...

The Prophecy of the Popes is clearly listed on wikipedia.

Therefore, true.

Posted by: Some chick dating a french model at March 14, 2013 07:09 PM (hO9ad)

524 510
There's about 8-10% of NRA members who seem very confused about what gun rights mean...
That's one possibility. A different one is that one out of ten people who claim to be a member of the NRA is flying a false flag.

Even Ace doesn't have that many trolls. And NRA membership costs money.

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 07:09 PM (bKA83)

525

For ecdysiasts, don't forget this Coverdale classic: http://tinyurl.com/mocjs4

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 07:09 PM (lbiWb)

526 521 "But if I say this to a Christian, immediately I am accuse of being anti-Christian or anti-religion. It's so bizarre."

Poor you. "Why is everybody always picking on me when I only go out of my way to mock Christians and their beliefs? You guys are so mean."

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 11:08 PM (Fz2C7)

______________________

Grow some thicker skin dude.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:09 PM (HDgX3)

527 I thought dunham was discovered in national geographic?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:09 PM (Z9EHQ)

528 >>>that fucking Moo Moo is still here? No, I have no problem with gays. I hope your gettin in your ass alot.

C'mon now...he's not actually being a bad sport anymore. People disagree, it's a heated subject, let it go for now. It's the ONT. Let's talk about Pavement.

Yeah, Pavement!

What, you guys aren't fans of Pavement?

THEN FUCK ALL Y'ALL BIGOTS AND HATERS.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:10 PM (/COnL)

529 Thank you LT Dalton. Fair winds and following seas.

Whats up roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:10 PM (yh0zB)

530 518 509
>Lena Dunham is going to be in Playboy.

You sure it wasn't Playgirl?

Field Stream

Zooology Today

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 11:08 PM (bKA83)

The Journal of Molds and Fungi

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 07:10 PM (kaalw)

531 Grow some thicker skin dude. But a chance to whine about socons!

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 07:11 PM (I88Jc)

532 I love pavement. Nothing sucks worse than a gravel road when you're in a convertible. Well, that's not really true. Rain sucks worse. And snow. But gravel roads suck pretty bad.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:11 PM (yh0zB)

533 530 The Journal of Molds and Fungi

I collect those, you know. I will have to pick up that issue.

Posted by: Egon at March 14, 2013 07:11 PM (bKA83)

534 I'll see your pavement and raise you two James'.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:11 PM (HDgX3)

535 naked dunham is more of a ripleys thing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (Z9EHQ)

536 >>>For ecdysiasts

Instant credibility for using the proper Latinate term for "filthy, filthy strippers."

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (/COnL)

537 "Grow some thicker skin dude.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 11:09 PM (HDgX3)"

I'm not the one whining like a ten year old girl you fucking piece of shit.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (Fz2C7)

538 I hate pavement.

Posted by: Guy traveling at 32 FPS squared at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (xKC/c)

539 There's about 8-10% of NRA members who seem very confused about what gun rights mean... That's one possibility. A different one is that one out of ten people who claim to be a member of the NRA is flying a false flag. Posted by: Steven Den Beste at March 14, 2013 11:06 PM Yes. This. Steven: I have always enjoyed your political posts, back to the Clueless days. Thank you for countless hours of enlightened reading and for making me think.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (JMmQ9)

540 And for UFC fans, the GSP vs Diaz fight is interesting since Diaz is a complete mental case. GSP is the long time champ from Quebec. Super professional. Diaz is a street thug from Stockton. Diaz has previously 1) Sucker punched another fighter in the ring -- after fight was over and during the media interviews. 2) Sucker punched another fighter -- after the fight in the hospital where they were both being stitched up. The other guy was hooked up to an IV at the time. Nick Diaz has a brother Nate who's also a UFC fighter. They usually tag team on the post-fight beatdowns. Diaz is a massive pothead who has severe problems with social anxiety and paranoia. His previous title fight with GSP was cancelled because Diaz skipped town and went on a pot-bender. His managers have to sleep outside his door to make sure he doesn't bail. Once he claimed out of his window to escape. Diaz has insane cardio and does triathlons for fun. He also talks constant trash. At the press conference today Diaz accused GSP of being on steroids and UFC of doing fake tests so GSP won't get caught. It's like an NFL QB going into the super bowl and accusing the NFL of rigging the game. Great thing about Diaz is he's unpredictable -- though not on purpose. Serious mental illness tends ot have that effect.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (ZPrif)

541

"I'd nominate Townshend and Daltrey in conjunction"

Saw them, too. Yeah, I was sort of Chance Gardiner when it comes to Rock concerts - went to far too many of them over the years...

but no. Think more er, pop.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (lbiWb)

542 Blanco Basura, you have a point.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (iOny9)

543

Well, you do come across as very hostile.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (P7nGQ)

544 hi lauren. what's your fav Talking Heads track? Nothing can compete with Burning Down the House for me. But the movie True Colors was really terrible.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (0PiQ4)

545 >>>I'll see your pavement and raise you two James'.

Sorry bitch. Your pair of James' is trumpy by my flush of Slowdives.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:12 PM (/COnL)

546 But a chance to whine about socons!

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 11:11 PM (I88Jc)

_________

When you cost us elections that lead to Harry Reid being majority leader, you're damn fucking right I'll whine. And loudly.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:13 PM (HDgX3)

547 Led Zep: Tea for One

Posted by: Pvt. Partze at March 14, 2013 07:13 PM (CZCbG)

548 Sorry bitch. Your pair of James' is trumpy by my flush of Slowdives.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 11:12 PM (/COnL)

________

Well played sir.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:13 PM (HDgX3)

549 Did I say Metallica? I meant Motley Cru.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 07:13 PM (CXoSL)

550 Ok, I'm out. I have to go waste your tax dollar bright and early tomorrow. Later y'all.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 14, 2013 07:14 PM (6wtM2)

551

"naked dunham is more of a rip your own eyes out and hurl them across the room thing"

FIFY.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 07:14 PM (lbiWb)

552 8 - 10% of free speech absolutists are against allowing dunaham to pose nude.

And 1% of those are already gougin their eyes out with a pencil.

Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2013 07:14 PM (hO9ad)

553 Did I say Metallica? I meant Motley Cru. Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious which one are you saying sucks ball sweat like obama in a steam bath?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:14 PM (Z9EHQ)

554 Blanco Basura, you have a point.

I can assure you, that was completely unintentional.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 14, 2013 07:15 PM (xKC/c)

555 500 posts and no one asked me if I got my large American-made motorcycle back from the motor re-builder yet. Why, yes I did. It kicks ass. The front wheel wants to come off the ground in 2nd gear. I will get a speeding ticket at some point.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 07:15 PM (8sCoq)

556 Panic At The Disco.... a band I never understood the popularity of.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:15 PM (HDgX3)

557 544 hi lauren.

what's your fav Talking Heads track? Nothing can compete with Burning Down the House for me. But the movie True Colors was really terrible.

Talking Heads was for me less about any single song, than about amazing albums that just kept delighting you in interesting ways as you listened through. Fear of Music is a favorite, but I love the early stuff too. Artists Only is a weird song, but it has stuck in my mind for decades.

Posted by: Egon at March 14, 2013 07:15 PM (bKA83)

558 What, you guys aren't fans of Pavement?

THEN FUCK ALL Y'ALL BIGOTS AND HATERS.

rino

Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2013 07:15 PM (hO9ad)

559 Begone, nerd sock!

Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 07:15 PM (bKA83)

560 Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 10:14 PM (/COnL) Amen. Preach it, Bro!

Posted by: Mindy the wacko-bird at March 14, 2013 07:15 PM (wk9P4)

561 You libetarians are costing us the FSA bloc, so we'll never stop blaming you.

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 07:15 PM (I88Jc)

562 @ 516

Nothing solid, AJ, guy has a 64 Chrysler 300 with a sick 413 I MAY look at, but probly will just exercise the Toy.

BTW, if things transpire, I will have some pics to post this Spring. Youngest daughter wants to sell me her Dell so I can actually have a real puter that isn't stone age. So it will have the capacity to do pics, I'm told.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 14, 2013 07:16 PM (SAMxH)

563 lowandslow I think I like you

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 07:16 PM (0PiQ4)

564 Why, yes I did. It kicks ass. The front wheel wants to come off the ground in 2nd gear. I will get a speeding ticket at some point. Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 11:15 PM (8sCoq) I'll alert the road clean up crews....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:16 PM (GEICT)

565 >>>what's your fav Talking Heads track? Nothing can compete with Burning Down the House for me. But the movie True Colors was really terrible.

Allow me to butt into a conversation I wasn't originally part of!

I'm a huge TH fan. Currently have over 70 concerts of theirs on my computer to go alongside their complete official discography. But HOLY LIVING FUCK did they ever spontaneously collapse after Remain In Light. The first four albums? Nearly flawless! Everything afterwards? Complete shit, with the exception of one or two tracks per album! Everyone else likes Speaking In Tongues but I never thought much of it (and I don't like "Burning Down The House"...best song on that LP is "Girlfriend Is Better"), but Little Creatures can be reduced to "And She Was" and "Road To Nowhere (two of their greatest-ever songs, admittedly), True Stories has only "Wild Wild Life," and Naked has the awesome anti-environmentalist anthem "(Nothing But) Flowers" plus a bunch of cod-Peter Gabriel-world-beat garbage.

But those first four records? Hoo boy, now we're talkin'.

For the record, the answer to your question is probably "Once In A Lifetime." But since that's so boringly predictable I'll instead go with either "The Great Curve," "Found A Job," or "Heaven."

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:16 PM (/COnL)

566 >When you cost us elections that lead to Harry Reid being majority leader, you're damn fucking right I'll whine. And loudly. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 11:13 PM (HDgX3) Fucking give it a rest already. You've committed the cardinal sin of commenting: being a crashing bore.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 07:16 PM (8sCoq)

567 naked dunham is more of a ripleys thing.

Depend's which ripley you mean.

Posted by: Sigourney Weaver at March 14, 2013 07:16 PM (hO9ad)

568 Why, yes I did. It kicks ass. The front wheel wants to come off the ground in 2nd gear. I will get a speeding ticket at some point.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 11:15 PM (8sCoq)

shweet, Jones! maybe you'll get some ridin' weather at some point, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:16 PM (AJM+z)

569 I finished watching the video that I linked in #413. I'll link it again in case any comments get deleted and throw the numbers out of whack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdWlcmnFIuI I should mention that this was just posted yesterday, and has only 160 views so far. Everybody's seen the video of the Challenger explosion, but you haven't seen it like this.

Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2013 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

570 Depend's which ripley you mean. Posted by: Sigourney either works

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:17 PM (Z9EHQ)

571 Diaz's usual defense for sucker punching another fighter post-fight -- "He looked at me like he was all hard and shit and I ain't nobody's bitch. Motherfucker started it. I didn't do shit. You don't want to get hit in the face don't look at me like you're some hard motherfucker. Whatever. I ain't no bitch."

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:18 PM (ZPrif)

572 Posted by: Splunge at March 14, 2013 11:02 PM That's the one

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 07:18 PM (JMmQ9)

573 Egon, Yes. And Yes again.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 07:18 PM (0PiQ4)

574 I hate pavement.

Posted by: Guy traveling at 32 FPS squared at March 14, 2013 11:12 PM (xKC/c)

You just need to change your vector Victor. 32FPSx32FPS isn't so bad horizontally, vertically it blows chunks.

For what it's worth, any surface is going to pretty much suck at terminal velocity. Even water.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:18 PM (yh0zB)

575 Diaz's usual defense for sucker punching another fighter post-fight -- "He looked at me like he was all hard and shit and I ain't nobody's bitch. Motherfucker started it. I didn't do shit. You don't want to get hit in the face don't look at me like you're some hard motherfucker. Whatever. I ain't no bitch." Posted by: Flatbush Joe hey - have you been taping thanksgiving at my in-laws?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:19 PM (Z9EHQ)

576

Jeff B., you've got me concerned. I can only claim approx 18,000 tracks on HD here at the palatial Jess Estate. You seem to have me beat...

Oh, and it was Farrokh Bulsara. Best f****ng showman ever. Unreal.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 07:19 PM (lbiWb)

577 Diaz's usual defense for sucker punching another fighter post-fight -- "He looked at me like he was all hard and shit and I ain't nobody's bitch. Motherfucker started it. I didn't do shit. You don't want to get hit in the face don't look at me like you're some hard motherfucker. Whatever. I ain't no bitch." He was lookin at me all weird, which is how I punched him when he wasn't looking. What a fucknut retard bitch.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:19 PM (GEICT)

578 >shweet, Jones! maybe you'll get some ridin' weather at some point, eh? Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 11:16 PM (AJM+z) We hit 71 degrees today. It WAS sweet. Canyon riding is not far off.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 07:19 PM (8sCoq)

579 I still have no love or trust for Rand Paul. Batshit crazy doesn't go away in one generation. Ted Cruz, damn, love him. I don't think he can ever be prez thought, right?

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:20 PM (AJM+z)

580 yeah but the strippuhs dance to Poison all sexy and shit

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 14, 2013 07:20 PM (vuIm8)

581 So every gay man is a sinner? Ah yes, a much better approach at winning elections. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 10:04 PM (HDgX3) You don't know much about the Christian faith, do you?

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2013 07:21 PM (ptcFO)

582 579 I still have no love or trust for Rand Paul. Batshit crazy doesn't go away in one generation. Ted Cruz, damn, love him. I don't think he can ever be prez thought, right? Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 11:20 PM (AJM+z) He's been an American citizen since the second he was born. He just happened to be born in Canada. That was how he explained it on Hannity last week.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:21 PM (GEICT)

583

Incidentally, Mr. Moo Moo, while you are thinking about the reaction you elicite from religious people, you might ponder the fact that AlextheChick, our resident bisexual lady, is not only respected but apparently held in a great deal of affection by many of the same people who get very unhappy about gay marriage. There are a number of other gay folks on this board who are treated just the same as anyone else.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 07:21 PM (P7nGQ)

584 I know a guy here in cali who is an NRA member, total dem, has a rifle and a shotgun, doesn't think people should be able to own handguns. I'm not surprised there is always at least 3 to 10% in any group membership that will go the other way. My mother is a full on member in the California Teachers Union, she's gone on union strikes, but she's never voted for a democrat in her life, she believes them to be godless heathens.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 14, 2013 07:21 PM (NzBQO)

585 I will get a speeding ticket at some point.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 11:15 PM (8sCoq)

Well, you have that to look forward to then. Just remember two things, the shiny side stays up and it's not paranoia if they really are out to get you. Which they are. Not cause they're mean, cause they're stupid. And blind. But mostly stupid.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:21 PM (yh0zB)

586 >>>Jeff B., you've got me concerned. I can only claim approx 18,000 tracks on HD here at the palatial Jess Estate. You seem to have me beat...
Oh, and it was Farrokh Bulsara. Best f****ng showman ever. Unreal.

It's frankly scary how much money I've wasted on buying music. I have something like 7,000 CDs at this point, and that doesn't include boxed sets. I cadged my drugs off of friends, saved the $$ for buying music. And none of that PirateBay download shit either.

Ironically enough, one group who I know virtually nothing about other than their radio hits is Queen. As an obsessive Bowie fan, my favorite thing of theirs has always been "Under Pressure" rather than any of their own proper work, which is probably hugely unfair to them.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:22 PM (/COnL)

587 Lena Dunham and her FUPA will be the cover model of " Gynocology Today" also. So you can get an 'inside look'

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 14, 2013 07:22 PM (zzeVM)

588 Hah. Lena Dunham sex vid. Can't tell if it's a publicity stunt for 'girls.' And Aunt Flo is visiting. http://tinyurl.com/bdv7zmy

Posted by: RWC at March 14, 2013 07:22 PM (sqp6o)

589 I still have no love or trust for Rand Paul. Batshit crazy doesn't go away in one generation. Ted Cruz, damn, love him. I don't think he can ever be prez thought, right? Posted by: Peaches PEACHES! sometimes the only way to fight bat shit crazy is with bat shit crazy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:22 PM (Z9EHQ)

590 (just fishing)

Posted by: RWC at March 14, 2013 07:23 PM (sqp6o)

591 He's been an American citizen since the second he was born. He just happened to be born in Canada. That was how he explained it on Hannity last week.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 11:21 PM (GEICT)

Awesome, thanks for putting me that knowledge, Cochran. I kinda researched it but couldn't really tell for sure. Love the guy, he is rocking my world right now.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:23 PM (AJM+z)

592 For the record, the answer to your question is probably "Once In A Lifetime." But since that's so boringly predictable I'll instead go with either "The Great Curve," "Found A Job," or "Heaven."

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 11:16 PM (/COnL)

When I was a freshman in college, the RA played the first album over and over and over and over and over and over and over -- which kind of made me TH averse....but, then, they came out with "Stop Making Sense".

So, we have godkids in Sacramento. Their mom used to run AV at the University I went to -- that's how we met, originally. The largest lecture hall there had a capacity of something like 900 people, and she was running "Stop Making Sense".....and as it went along, she kept thinking "this is pretty good", and cranking up the sound volume.

Until she blew the sound system.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 07:23 PM (kaalw)

593 583 Incidentally, Mr. Moo Moo, while you are thinking about the reaction you elicite from religious people, you might ponder the fact that AlextheChick, our resident bisexual lady, is not only respected but apparently held in a great deal of affection by many of the same people who get very unhappy about gay marriage. There are a number of other gay folks on this board who are treated just the same as anyone else.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 11:21 PM (P7nGQ)

____________________

Fantastic. I'm not gay by the way. (Insert Seinfeld quote here).

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:23 PM (HDgX3)

594

"It's frankly scary how much money I've wasted on buying music"

If you like it, it's not wasted. Heck, I could've bought a (fill in name of higher end car here) several times over w/what I've spent. Don't regret a cent of it.

Later.

Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 07:24 PM (lbiWb)

595 >>>Hah. Lena Dunham sex vid. Can't tell if it's a publicity stunt for 'girls.'

Awwww...FUCK YOU.

I don't know what's worse, being punked or admitting it here...because then I have to answer the question "why in god's name did you try to click on that link in the first place?"

I dunno. For the same reason people rubberneck at car accidents, I guess.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:24 PM (/COnL)

596 Nothing solid, AJ, guy has a 64 Chrysler 300 with a sick 413 I MAY look at, but probly will just exercise the Toy. BTW, if things transpire, I will have some pics to post this Spring. Youngest daughter wants to sell me her Dell so I can actually have a real puter that isn't stone age. So it will have the capacity to do pics, I'm told. Posted by: irongrampa at March 14, 2013 11:16 PM Get the Mopar, rebuild it; then find someone with a "fuel-injected Stingray" and then make a (sure to be viral) video of The Beach Boys classic song... We'd all subscribe to the IronGrampa YouTube channel.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 07:24 PM (JMmQ9)

597 UFC is fun. But they better cash out now. Cause in another 10 years the first generation UFC stars are gonna start having some early onset dementia. Right now the oldest ones are still mid-40s. Benefit of a young sport based on head trauma -- it takes a couple decades for the head trauma to become really, really obvious. Diaz's mental problems appear to be more natural. But the being a giant pot-head and having his head routinely pummeled probably aren't helping.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:24 PM (ZPrif)

598 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 11:12 PM Aaand, I'm back. I can't believe that fight is this Saturday. For the past few years, the only fights I buy are GSP's. Reminds me of a French Canadian in my squad. Quiet, humble, professional. And a serious badass. He'll fight whatever kind of fight his opponent wants, and still win. Up against a striker? He can stand a trade hands. BJJ? Maybe top 10 in history. Wrestler? You'll lose 50-45. Cougar likes him too, but I think there are other considerations at work there. I might have to drop the $60 for this one. I hate the Diaz brothers. Theyre like the anti-GSP.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at March 14, 2013 07:24 PM (jIaZt)

599 Awesome, thanks for putting me that knowledge, Cochran. I kinda researched it but couldn't really tell for sure. Love the guy, he is rocking my world right now. Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 11:23 PM (AJM+z) He's fighting them straight on, hardcore, pull no punches. He's fighting them like a man would. Like a Moron would. (but with less profanity)

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:25 PM (GEICT)

600 Rand Paul is my kind of crazy, as long as he stays bought.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:25 PM (yh0zB)

601

Metallica was good up until their black album. After that it became clear they no longer cared about the music and were chaing the dollar.

They got popular by selling their albums out eh back of their car and by people copying it on cassette and passing it around. So when they weren't rich and famous it was ok.

When they became rich and were making a ton of money by selling out every stadium gig, they hated people copying their music. Fucking hypocrites.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:25 PM (iOny9)

602 Dammit I've been so happy about the new Pope, and I went and sinned today. Got pulled over for going past traffic on the shoulder to make a right and had a kid hang her head out the window and pretend to be sick. Didn't give a thought. Total gut reaction.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 14, 2013 07:26 PM (Sptt8)

603 Awww, St. Gabby with an EBR on the front page at Breitbart.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 14, 2013 07:26 PM (xKC/c)

604 >Well, you have that to look forward to then. Just remember two things, the shiny side stays up and it's not paranoia if they really are out to get you. Words to live by.

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 14, 2013 07:26 PM (8sCoq)

605

Fantastic. I'm not gay by the way. (Insert Seinfeld quote here).

I didn't think you were.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 07:26 PM (P7nGQ)

606
When they became rich and were making a ton of money by selling out every stadium gig, they hated people copying their music. Fucking hypocrites.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 11:25 PM (iOny9)

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Fucking pricks. How dare they demand payment for their music?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:27 PM (HDgX3)

607 Nick Diaz: "For the record, right now, I think someone needed to come out and say it: I think smoking pot is good for mixed martial artists. It's a new day and age, this is, uh, the year...fuck year is it? I don't know, because I've been training and smoking pot like I should, instead of paying attention to other bullshit, which I don't do."

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:27 PM (ZPrif)

608 Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at March 14, 2013 11:24 PM (jIaZt) I hate GSP. I think he's a punk. The first time I ever saw him, and the memory that sticks with me, is him going into the ring and trash talking Matt Hughes right after Hughes won a big fight.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:27 PM (GEICT)

609 >>>Metallica was good up until their black album. After that it became clear they no longer cared about the music and were chaing the dollar.

Fuck that, Metallica lost it before ...And Justice For All. I'm still waiting for an explanation as to where the hell the bass went on that record.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:27 PM (/COnL)

610 Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 11:24 PM (/COnL) That's why i threw in the Aunt Flo comment. More dis-incentive to click it. But some can't resist :-) (how do you think I know what a blue waffle is)

Posted by: RWC at March 14, 2013 07:28 PM (sqp6o)

611 Diaz's mental problems appear to be more natural. his shithead lil bro also bolsters that point.

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 07:28 PM (I88Jc)

612 Nick Diaz on computers: After my last fight I bought one, I have no clue how to work it nor have any intention of chatting on here with you whores.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:28 PM (ZPrif)

613 Diaz on priorities: Actually, on the contrary, my fight career has gotten in the way of my marijuana smoking.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:29 PM (ZPrif)

614 damn...gotta get my Harley running again...I miss riding.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:29 PM (yh0zB)

615 'True Colors' had James Spader and John Cusack, the epitome of smug leftism, by himself, as in 'Grosse Pointe Blank' he's passible.

Posted by: archie goodwin at March 14, 2013 07:29 PM (Jsiw/)

616 sometimes the only way to fight bat shit crazy is with bat shit crazy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 11:22 PM (Z9EHQ)

In that case, second look at Rick Perry. I do not trust the spawn of luapnor. I think he's got an agenda. Not my agenda. Not even close. Plus they got their army of zombies. I can't go there, don't want to, won't.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:29 PM (AJM+z)

617 I always thought the guys in metal bands were the male equivalents of female strippers - daddy / abandonment issues.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:29 PM (Z9EHQ)

618 >>>Fucking pricks. How dare they demand payment for their music?

Yeah. I mean, it may not have been 'cool' and all, but aren't we capitalists here? Guys had a right to want to get paid for their work. You pass tapes around for copying when you have no other choice. But once you can actually get paid for what you do, there's nothing wrong with fighting for that. Except that it's unfashionable and stuff.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:29 PM (/COnL)

619 Stop with the bullshit that we are all a bunch of bigots. Posted by: waldo truth at March 14, 2013 09:14 PM (3VhRQ) Speak for yourself!

Posted by: Grand Kleegle Robert Byrd, Proud Democrat at March 14, 2013 07:29 PM (Vk2pI)

620 Problem with Ted Cruz is nobody will take him seriously that isn't already in his corner. We need Ted Cruz ideas but with a more presentable delivery. Rand Paul could be that guy since he's not always looking for a fight the way Cruz is. Rubio too.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:29 PM (HDgX3)

621 Nick Diaz on Pot and Memory Loss: So my bottom line is I wanted to get a bunch of this stuff off my chest is...is that...you know...I'm not no chump. I'm not going to just talk shit or whatever. I can't remember where I was really going with that.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:29 PM (ZPrif)

622 JeffB --- you should read the backthread on MooMoo. Everyone here who offered Moo Moo a reasonable argument was responded with "You're a bigot! Wow!" Hey, also, you know your Talking Heads.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 07:30 PM (0PiQ4)

623 (how do you think I know what a blue waffle is)

Posted by: RWC at March 14, 2013 11:28 PM (sqp6o)

must

resist

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:30 PM (yh0zB)

624 In that case, second look at Rick Perry. I do not trust the spawn of luapnor. I think he's got an agenda. Not my agenda. Not even close. Plus they got their army of zombies. I can't go there, don't want to, won't. Posted by: Peaches I would rather have them the pauls pissing on them than us.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:30 PM (Z9EHQ)

625 That's interesting BC. I don't remember that, but he and Hughes aren't buddies. Normally he just says shit like "I think I'm a better but fighter but my opponent is very tough I'll have to train very hard blah blah blah." I'm not doubting you, but that's way out character for him.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at March 14, 2013 07:31 PM (jIaZt)

626 UFC is fun. But they better cash out now. Cause in another 10 years the first generation UFC stars are gonna start having some early onset dementia. Right now the oldest ones are still mid-40s.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 11:24 PM (ZPrif)

Do they make a lot of money? I hear that's a pretty big problem because they are all employees of the UFC not independent like boxers. So they don't pull in the money that say Floyd Mayweather would.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 14, 2013 07:31 PM (NzBQO)

627 oops, i forgot Bellator's on!

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 07:31 PM (I88Jc)

628 must resist Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 11:30 PM (yh0zB) DO NOT, under any circumstances, do what you're about to do.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:31 PM (GEICT)

629 I know a guy here in cali who is an NRA member, total dem, has a rifle and a shotgun, doesn't think people should be able to own handguns. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 14, 2013 11:21 PM (NzBQO) the stoopid fuck thinks they will never take his shit. wrong o wrong o he be

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 14, 2013 07:31 PM (zzeVM)

630

I've dated a couple of strippers. Yes they are messed up. Yes they are demons in bed.

Know what else they taught me? 50% of strippers are lesbians. 25% are bi. The 25% that are straight and see you as a fool to be bled dry.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:32 PM (iOny9)

631 Yeah. I mean, it may not have been 'cool' and all, but aren't we capitalists here? Guys had a right to want to get paid for their work. You pass tapes around for copying when you have no other choice. But once you can actually get paid for what you do, there's nothing wrong with fighting for that. Except that it's unfashionable and stuff.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 11:29 PM (/COnL)

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People don't get - or don't want to get - that music is someone's work. Copying music is the equivalent of stealing an architect's blueprints or an author's book or a software engineer;s code. Yet for some reason stealing music is perfectly fine by most people as if the musician is doing the work for charity of something.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:32 PM (HDgX3)

632 Diaz on your Fucking Family: "My car pulled up in front of the hotel and he and his girlfriend and his mom and dad were there. Right away, he put his mug on me. He was staring me down and trying to give the impression that he's hard core. I flipped him off, but he's standing over there like he's flashing. I go, 'What the fuck are you doing? I'm not the one doing shit.' I couldn't understand why this guy is putting his mug on me, but he had to act like he was some kind of a fucking tough guy in front of his girlfriend and his dad. This is war, this is life, and I take this very seriously. I'm not the one bringing my family into the ring and showing them off. I'm not the one who (showed up to the pre-fight news conference) in a fucking suit trying to act like I'm some kind of tough guy asshole rich kid. This is war to me and we have a serious situation on our hands now."

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:32 PM (ZPrif)

633 According to your logic then every Christian supports everything that THE REVEREND Al Sharpton says. And everything the Westboro Church nutjobs say. All Christians think alike just like all gays think alike.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 10:06 PM (HDgX3)

Naw, Sharpton and the Westboro klan are Democrats, like you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2013 07:32 PM (29+x5)

634 617 Bingo. But it's mommy issues, too. They need to steal her makeup for that sweet sweet negative attention.

Posted by: Jenny hates her phone at March 14, 2013 07:33 PM (vA1V9)

635 I'm not doubting you, but that's way out character for him. Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at March 14, 2013 11:31 PM (jIaZt) Hughes had just won a big fight and then, this: http://youtu.be/nWMhWJ5jYdE

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:33 PM (GEICT)

636 you should read the backthread on MooMoo. Everyone here who offered Moo Moo a reasonable argument was responded with "You're a bigot! Wow!"

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You need better reading comprehension skills my friend.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 07:33 PM (HDgX3)

637 Ya know, being the spawn of luapnor is certainly a risky liability, but I'd hate for people to judge me for my mother. So much so that she gets invited to exactly one kids' sports games per season and must sit far, far away from my friends.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 14, 2013 07:34 PM (Sptt8)

638 Crap. Sitting in the cell lot waiting on my husband's flight,and it is insanity. I hate sxsw.

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 07:34 PM (iyqbL)

639 Bingo. But it's mommy issues, too. They need to steal her makeup for that sweet sweet negative attention. Posted by: Jenny hates her phone

fyi, I also hate your phone

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:34 PM (Z9EHQ)

640 sonofabitch...i knew when i did it that it would be wrong and i would regret it...and i was right...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:34 PM (yh0zB)

641 Great thing about Diaz is he's unpredictable -- though not on purpose. Serious mental illness tends ot have that effect. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 11:12 PM (ZPrif) I boxed as an amateur when I was young. My son was two-time state boxing champion, so I was a boxing dad for years. A good chunk of my life has been spent in gyms and dojos, yet I've only seen one UFC fight in my lifetime. While I was watching, I saw a guy drive his knee into the face of his opponent, and couldn't bear to watch anymore. I knew what that knee to the face meant and what more damage like that would mean over time. Hard, concussive blows to the head have a cumulative effect. You think professional boxing is a meatgrinder? I'm guessing a high percentage of the young men engaged in those UFC tournaments today will be living in old folks' homes by the time they're 50 or so, staring blankly off into space and shitting into diapers. I say just give UFC fighters swords and tridents and dispense with the pretense they're engaged in any kind of sport.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2013 07:34 PM (ptcFO)

642

AM I DEMON

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfdmRR623BY

Posted by: DANZIG at March 14, 2013 07:35 PM (7w/32)

643 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 11:30 PM (yh0zB) Please don't search for it. Was about to describe it but got themchills.

Posted by: RWC at March 14, 2013 07:35 PM (sqp6o)

644 >>>JeffB --- you should read the backthread on MooMoo. Everyone here who offered Moo Moo a reasonable argument was responded with "You're a bigot! Wow!"

I read the whole thread. And I'm not saying he couldn't have argued his point a little more tactfully.

What I'm saying is that this blog is full of assholes, loudmouths, know-it-alls, and smug motherfuckers. I happen to be one of them myself (ask around, anyone will tell ya). My attitude is that as long as you're not an honest-to-goodness liberal troll -- and I have a pretty solid troll-dar for these things -- that you're welcome in the Moron Horde, provided that you recognize that you're probably going to take abuse for espousing certain unfashionable positions. I get it on a daily basis myself, I'm willing to admit that quite a bit of is justified because I can be an arrogant prat.

Besides, Moo Moo actually has decent musical taste, at least based on the evidence of this thread. Weighted far more towards '80s/'90s postpunk/alt-rock, but good nonetheless.

Mr. Moo Moo, I propose a test for you, if you're around: Describe your opinions of the following two bands, with the understanding that wrong answer will lead to several canings:

1.) Minutemen
2.) Husker Du.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:35 PM (/COnL)

645 You all have it wrong, Lena Dunham is the cover story of the next issue of "Dog Fancy"

Posted by: Museisluse at March 14, 2013 07:35 PM (DGx2X)

646 Yeah. I mean, it may not have been 'cool' and all, but aren't we capitalists here? Guys had a right to want to get paid for their work. You pass tapes around for copying when you have no other choice. But once you can actually get paid for what you do, there's nothing wrong with fighting for that. Except that it's unfashionable and stuff.

Posted by: Jeff B

***

Like I said, hypocrite douchebags much like you and moo moo.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:36 PM (iOny9)

647 Ya know, being the spawn of luapnor is certainly a risky liability, but I'd hate for people to judge me for my mother.

Justamom, he was out there campaigning hard for the batshit crazy one for months. I do applaud the noise he's been making, I am very glad and grateful, but I can't embrace him as the face of what I believe in. Because I truly do not think that is what he is.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:36 PM (AJM+z)

648

There are a number of people on this board who were arguing for abolishing copyright laws not too long ago.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 07:36 PM (P7nGQ)

649 I think that if I had a choice of living in Shitcanistan or being aborted that I would have to go with being aborted. Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 14, 2013 09:30 PM (jucos) That can be fixed...

Posted by: Liverpool Care Pathway at March 14, 2013 07:36 PM (Vk2pI)

650 Not to drag up old shit or anything, but the "Ted Cruz was born in Canadia" is exactly the same as the "John McCain was born in Panama" bullshit.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 07:37 PM (JMmQ9)

651 The Barbarian Fight Club in Fredericksburg is a good time. (even with losing every bet.)

Posted by: RWC at March 14, 2013 07:38 PM (sqp6o)

652 Fuck that, Metallica lost it before ...And Justice For All. I'm still waiting for an explanation as to where the hell the bass went on that record. Woah there, nellie. Bass or no bass, that is quite possibly the greatest record in not just all of metal, but all of contemporary music history. You can defend Mitt Romney, but don't you dare dis that album.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 14, 2013 07:39 PM (81ahw)

653 I listened to an old Hawkwind album today. Spacy...sucky. A lot of the 60's acid hasn't aged well at all Posted by: @PurpAv at March 14, 2013 10:36 PM (mNCbk) Which albums? They had a lot of good stuff, particularly their stuff with Lemmy before he formed Motorhead. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoA8zu1ZTSI

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at March 14, 2013 07:39 PM (Vk2pI)

654 >>>Like I said, hypocrite douchebags much like you and moo moo.

But -- and I'm hoping for a real discussion here, not simply to trade insults -- I fail to see what the hypocrisy is. When you're just starting out as a group, it makes sense to do any damn thing you can to 'create a market', so to speak, even if that means giving shit away for free. It's no different than a new product selling at a super low (or two-for-one) initial price to create interest, then raising the price once people have decided they really like it and want more. Why shouldn't Metallica, or any other band, want to charge market value for their music after working so long and hard (often for peanuts) to 'make it'?

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:39 PM (/COnL)

655

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 11:29 PM (/COnL)

Tapes weren't lossless. That's the difference. The days of Tape Trading being a boon were well over by the time Metallica had had enough.

That said, you kinda remind me of Lars.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 07:39 PM (7w/32)

656 So...I'm heading to J-ville Florida on the 23rd. What say we have a mini moron meetup sometime that week? I'll be there until the 30th.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:39 PM (yh0zB)

657 Ahahaha

So I'm watching an episode of "Paranormal State" I DVRed earlier.

Dude has a tatoo of the gateway to Hell, full of satanic symbolism, and his pastor *thinks* that might have something to do with why his house is haunted.

Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2013 07:40 PM (hO9ad)

658 I'm guessing a high percentage of the young men engaged in those UFC ... with most fights lasting only 3 rounds, many of which are decided by a submission, i'd disagree.

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 07:40 PM (I88Jc)

659 So...I'm heading to J-ville Florida on the 23rd. What say we have a mini moron meetup sometime that week? I'll be there until the 30th. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, there is a whole subchapter of midget morons?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 07:40 PM (Z9EHQ)

660

ACE, MODERATORS, COMMENTERS:

Please, please, please, shine the light on this comment by Robert Heinlen, a major political operator, who wrote his book "Take Back Your Government" this appears on page 207 of his book on his note on dealing with Communists. Commies are the leftists of today under a different name. THIS BOOK IS FROM 1946. Heinlen was a democrat that came to support Goldwater and a true American. Without further ado, here is his prescient, prescient statement:

"Communism is so repugnant to almost all Americans, when they are getting along even tolerably well, that one may predict with certainty that any social field or group in which the communists make real strides in gaining members or acceptance of their doctrines, any such spot is in such bad shape from real and not imaginary social ills that the rest of us should take emergency, drastic action to investigate and correct the trouble."

EXACTLY EXACTLY, ELEVENTY!!!!! Commies are gaining in universities and public ed. This deserves its own post but the EMERGENCY is real and drastic action must be taken. Thanks for reading. Heinlen called this more than 50 years ago. Head of public teachers' union (second in command, Jesse Sharkey) is attending MARXISM conferences at Northwestern University. This needs DRASTIC action.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 14, 2013 07:40 PM (q9f8B)

661 You ain't no friend of mine, Moo Moo. you have received the benefit of all the polite commenters here and taken advantage of it. Even NDH grew tired of your ass, and she is well mannered. Me, not so much. So, again, go fuck yourself to sleep.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 07:40 PM (0PiQ4)

662 Sorry folks, if you say it's ok at one point so you can get rich and famous, it makes you a POS later when you say they can't do it. You don't get to play it both ways.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:41 PM (iOny9)

663

Woah there, nellie. Bass or no bass, that is quite possibly the greatest record in not just all of metal, but all of contemporary music history

REIGN IN BLOOD.

Sorry. You may try again later.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 07:41 PM (7w/32)

664 620 Problem with Ted Cruz is nobody will take him seriously that isn't already in his corner. We need Ted Cruz ideas but with a more presentable delivery. Rand Paul could be that guy since he's not always looking for a fight the way Cruz is. Rubio too.

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Ahhhh....I seeeee.....We need a more moderate version of Ted Cruz. That's it: moderation...

and Paul: he's not looking for a fight, even though he pulled off a filibuster that sent both the Dems and GOP inching toward DefCon One.

And Rubio: nahhh...he don't want no trouble. Wasn't that him who agreed with most of the POTUS's SOTUS?

Yessir, you got some really well-thought-out ideas there!

Posted by: wholelottasplainin' at March 14, 2013 07:41 PM (WGOcs)

665 What time is it?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 07:41 PM (kaalw)

666 It's Howdy-Doody Time!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 07:41 PM (kaalw)

667 Time for the old folk. Tomorrow for sure the Plymouth will get checked to see how it survived the winter.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 14, 2013 07:41 PM (SAMxH)

668 >>>Metallica was good up until their black album. After that it became clear they no longer cared about the music and were chaing the dollar. Fuck that, Metallica lost it before ...And Justice For All. I'm still waiting for an explanation as to where the hell the bass went on that record. Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 11:27 PM (/COnL) Metallica's first three albums were genious. This was in large part due to the influence of Mustaine and to the continual presence of Cliff Burton. After Burton dies and they ran out of Mustaine's riffs, they started to suck. ...And Justice For All wasn't as good as their first three albums, but it was a good still album, and if they continued along that path they'd still be considered Metal gods today. But then they got Montley Crue's producer and sold out.

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at March 14, 2013 07:41 PM (Vk2pI)

669 >>>That said, you kinda remind me of Lars.

You really do know how to twist the knife, don't you garrett?

Fuck you very much (he said with genuine admiration).

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:42 PM (/COnL)

670 BC, point taken. I didn't like that move, but that smells like Dana Whites doing. He doesnt get into that ring unless the UFC wanted him to. Normally, this is what his interviews sound like. http://pxlpl.us/fzho His post fight interviews are even more humble. No need to talk shit after getting your hand raised.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at March 14, 2013 07:42 PM (jIaZt)

671 656 So...I'm heading to J-ville Florida on the 23rd. What say we have a mini moron meetup sometime that week? I'll be there until the 30th. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 11:39 PM (yh0zB) There are a few of us floating around. Where you gonna be staying? What part of town?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:42 PM (GEICT)

672 I can't believe I got that in there back-to-back.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 07:42 PM (kaalw)

673 Gonna throw some more carbon into the stove and call it a night.

Posted by: sTevo at March 14, 2013 07:42 PM (VMcEw)

674 there is a whole subchapter of midget morons?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 11:40 PM (Z9EHQ)

Haven't been paying attention?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:42 PM (yh0zB)

675 People don't get - or don't want to get - that music is someone's work. Copying music is the equivalent of stealing an architect's blueprints or an author's book or a software engineer;s code. Or like stealing a mathematician's ideas. Oh wait, that's perfectly legal. Mathematicians don't get intellectual property protection. Why should musicians be different?

Posted by: AmishDude at March 14, 2013 07:42 PM (xSegX)

676 @536 Ecdysiasts. Latin your ass.

Dude, that is so Greek.

Posted by: comatus at March 14, 2013 07:43 PM (qaVK+)

677 I'm not surprised by that California story, it's getting to the point you just shouldn't bother telling the govt. when you want to do something on your property.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 14, 2013 07:43 PM (NzBQO)

678

Fuck you very much (he said with genuine admiration).

That was a low blow.

Well landed, though.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 07:43 PM (7w/32)

679 Commies are gaining in universities and public ed. This deserves its own post but the EMERGENCY is real and drastic action must be taken.

I'll take care of them, but good.

Posted by: The student loan bubble at March 14, 2013 07:43 PM (hO9ad)

680 REIGN IN BLOOD. Sorry. You may try again later. Going with both Justice and Puppets ahead of it, then Reign in Blood, then Rust in Peace.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 14, 2013 07:43 PM (81ahw)

681

What time is it?

Way late for me. Good night, y'all.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 07:43 PM (P7nGQ)

682 Not to drag up old shit or anything, but the "Ted Cruz was born in Canadia" is exactly the same as the "John McCain was born in Panama" bullshit.

Thanks, Alton. But I read on wikipedia (yeah, I know) that his father became a citizen in 2005, so I'm not entirely sure that you are entirely correct on this. I'd love to be wrong!

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:44 PM (AJM+z)

683 Woah there, nellie. Bass or no bass, that is quite possibly the greatest record in not just all of metal, but all of contemporary music history REIGN IN BLOOD. Sorry. You may try again later. Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 11:41 PM (7w/32) Sorry, Master of Puppets is the greatest. Also, Seasons in the Abyss is better than Reign in Blood, IMHO.

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at March 14, 2013 07:44 PM (Vk2pI)

684 It's very splunge,

Posted by: archie goodwin at March 14, 2013 07:44 PM (Jsiw/)

685 REIGN IN BLOOD.
Sorry. You may try again later.

Posted by: garrett

*****

I'll see you and raise you Seasons in the Abyss.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:44 PM (iOny9)

686 Thanks, Alton. But I read on wikipedia (yeah, I know) that his father became a citizen in 2005, so I'm not entirely sure that you are entirely correct on this. I'd love to be wrong! Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 11:44 PM (AJM+z) Check the mom. He says she was a citizen when she had him.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:44 PM (GEICT)

687 679 Commies are gaining in universities and public ed. This deserves its own
post but the EMERGENCY is real and drastic action must be taken.

I'll take care of them, but good.

Posted by: The student loan bubble at March 14, 2013 11:43 PM (hO9ad)

Commies own education outright -- they're not gaining any more because the solution is oversaturated.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 07:44 PM (kaalw)

688 The problem with letting GOProud play "just the tip" with the conservative movement is that, of course, it's never, ever just the tip.

Posted by: Rich Fader at March 14, 2013 07:44 PM (Wjgl6)

689

Oh wait, that's perfectly legal. Mathematicians don't get intellectual property protection.

Neither do Fly Tiers/Tyers or those crazy guys out on the streetcorner.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 07:45 PM (7w/32)

690 OMD's "So In Love" is the best FUAD song ever.

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 07:45 PM (D4tR0)

691 REIGN IN BLOOD. Sorry. You may try again later. Going with both Justice and Puppets ahead of it, then Reign in Blood, then Rust in Peace. Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 14, 2013 11:43 PM (81ahw) Of the Big Four, I'd rank albums like this: Master of Puppets (Metallica) Persistence of Time (Anthrax) Season in the Abyss (Slayer) Youthenasia (Megadeth)

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at March 14, 2013 07:45 PM (Vk2pI)

692 There are a few of us floating around. Where you gonna be staying? What part of town?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 11:42 PM (GEICT)

Westside, near I-10 and Cassat.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:45 PM (yh0zB)

693 Looks like SITA wins.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:46 PM (iOny9)

694 Check the mom. He says she was a citizen when she had him.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 11:44 PM (GEICT)

Awesome, I am so glad to hear this, because I think Cruz is our rising star. I'm all in.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:46 PM (AJM+z)

695 A lot of the damage the UFC guys take is in sparring. UFC guys at the top make good money. Not Floyd Mayweather money, but good money. Millions. At the bottom. Not so much. A prelim guy might make $10k to fight with a $10k win bonus. At the top they get a cut of the PPV money.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:46 PM (ZPrif)

696 Peaches, Cruz' mom grew up in Delaware. Married the Dad who fled Cuba. They moved to Canada briefly for work. She had him there, then they moved back and eventually his dad got citizenship.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:46 PM (GEICT)

697 ...And Justice For All wasn't as good as their first three albums, but it was a good still album, and if they continued along that path they'd still be considered Metal gods today. Ride the Lightning's great but contains two of Metallica's worst songs - Trapped Under Ice and Escape. I don't Kill Em All has quite the musical depth of the next three. BTW, I think Death Magnetic was a pretty good effort, even if the sound quality was shit.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 14, 2013 07:46 PM (81ahw)

698 Nope, I'm going Reign in Blood.

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 07:46 PM (D4tR0)

699 Anyone can join the NRA. Michael Moore did. About 10% of the NRA is made of those that hate everything that it stands for, but just want to be ironic. Posted by: ScottyNo at March 14, 2013 09:38 PM (8YE33) Speaking of which: Evolution of the Hipster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbTI7eWaQbk

Posted by: The Unironic Hat at March 14, 2013 07:47 PM (Vk2pI)

700 this stupid fucking simulation is going to be the death of me, urgh

has Troll Boo Boo left already?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 07:47 PM (BBWjt)

701 but seriously,after driving 500 miles to get there, nowhere in town is really off limits.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:47 PM (yh0zB)

702 >>>Dude, that is so Greek.

You're 100% right of course, and I feel like a fucking retard for getting that wrong especially given that I'm an Indo-European reconstructive linguist in my spare time. It's not like I don't fucking know the difference between Italic and Hellenic languages.

Blame the vodka. And the early New Order playing in my headphones.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:47 PM (/COnL)

703 Also the UFC guys only fight 2-3 times a year. The champs usually only fight 2x a year.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:48 PM (ZPrif)

704

Or like stealing a mathematician's ideas.

Oh wait, that's perfectly legal. Mathematicians don't get intellectual property protection.

Why should musicians be different?

Because musicians are making something. Mathematicians are just discovering something that is already there (in theory, anyhow.)

Having said that, I note that Saxon's books weren't free.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 07:48 PM (P7nGQ)

705 Westside, near I-10 and Cassat. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 11:45 PM (yh0zB) Maybe we can work something out. Gimme a shout through email on specifics. It's {my nic} @ gmail.com

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:48 PM (GEICT)

706 Something for TPH - http://tinyurl.com/cfzcouo Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 09:51 PM (X81fn) Already have it. Love it.

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at March 14, 2013 07:48 PM (Vk2pI)

707 I have a belly full of chicky parm and must bid you all a fond adieu. God bless us, every one.

Try not to wreck the place, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:48 PM (AJM+z)

708 cthulhu: golf clap. I thought I was the only one who remembered the tradition. Bless you, Sir / Madam / Thing. In related news, I miss Rum and I hope she's prospering.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 07:49 PM (JMmQ9)

709 Ever wonder what kind of pron the rest of the world is searching for? Apparently there's an outfit that analyzes pron searches by state in the US and worldwide too. They give top 10's for everything.

http://www.pornmd.com/sex-search

The #1 search in Australia? Gay pron.

5 of the top 10 in Iran? Gay pron

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 14, 2013 07:49 PM (mNCbk)

710

Little FYI, music artists make the vast majority of their money off concerts. "Record" sales get's them maybe 6-9 cents per "album".

Like I said, hypocritical fucks.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:49 PM (iOny9)

711

L'elle, I'll talk nicie nicie to you as long as you're hot!! With a name like that you have to be, no moo moo with me. hahahahaha.

Metallica is the best. Got the garage days on my ipod, and loving it!! Ok, I've got to get off to watch Archer, but please read my post from Robert Heinlen. Seriously, what he warns about is happening right fucking now.

One more thing honkies:

Marco Rubio-Tom Cotton 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: prescient11 at March 14, 2013 07:49 PM (q9f8B)

712 One big problem with Libertarianism (note the big L) right now. The left is going to push their agenda straight down the our throats with the full force of the government. And yet you still get idiot LP types ranting about the likes of Santorum. Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2013 10:02 PM (zPVBH) Most "Big L" Libertarians would join the Khmer Rouge because their leader was Pol Pot

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 14, 2013 07:49 PM (Vk2pI)

713 Alright, I should've been in bed over an hour ago. PTFO Horde.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 07:50 PM (GEICT)

714 There are a number of people on this board who were arguing for abolishing copyright laws not too long ago. Why are copyright laws longer than patent laws? Why are we arguing about protecting the intellectual property long after their creators have died?

Posted by: AmishDude at March 14, 2013 07:50 PM (xSegX)

715 Oh, dang, nobody has mentioned it, but this is Ides of March eve.

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 07:50 PM (AJM+z)

716

1.Reign in Blood

2.Reign in Blood

3.Seasons in the Abyss

4.Reign in Blood

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 07:50 PM (7w/32)

717 >>>Master of Puppets (Metallica)
Persistence of Time (Anthrax)
Season in the Abyss (Slayer)
Youthenasia (Megadeth)

Meh. No Reign In Blood means failure.

Let's rank hardcore albums, though. 1.) Damaged - Black Flag; 2.) Zen Arcade - Husker Du (the first disc is arguably the DEFINITIVE hardcore punk statement bar none); 3.) Bad Brains - Bad Brains; 4.) Complete Discography - Minor Threat (sort of a cop-out, but hey).

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:50 PM (/COnL)

718 nick fail, hat

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 07:51 PM (JMmQ9)

719 Metallice the Garage Days Revisted is good.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:51 PM (iOny9)

720 Neu! was Kraftwerke leicht. Of course KfW was downhill after that... Posted by: Jess1 at March 14, 2013 10:40 PM (lbiWb) Their best stuff was the Breman Radio bootleg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWSw479WUiE

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at March 14, 2013 07:52 PM (Vk2pI)

721 And if you ask 1000 gays if they support teaching how to fist in kindergarten I'll bet 995 say HELL NO. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 14, 2013 10:02 PM (HDgX3) The other five are in Congress...

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 14, 2013 07:53 PM (Vk2pI)

722 Chuck Liddell, former champ, is only 43 and is showing signs of brain damage. Dana White had to force him to retire. Gave him a job with UFC even though it's not clear what useful he can do. Rampage Jackson has had numerous odd behavior incidents. He quit UFC recently in paranoid huff. He clearly has some cognition problems. UFC fighters don't get hit in the head as much as boxers in a fight -- but they get harder and are likely to suffer multiple concussions in a fight. There's some growing research that this is especially bad for the brain. The top boxers are still the highest paid athletes on the planet. Mayweather and Pacquiao make more than any NFL QB or NBA star or MLB star.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:53 PM (ZPrif)

723 No mention of Rand Paul's interview in the National Review? He said he wants to get the government out of marriage altogether. Make everything civil unions (because adults can make any sort of contract they chose), and adjust the tax code. Only churches would perform marriages. All the commenters said that the gheys would never stand for it.

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 14, 2013 07:53 PM (Lqy/e)

724 I'd have pegged Mr Moo Moo as a Judas Priest man.

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 07:53 PM (D4tR0)

725 650---- Not to drag up old shit or anything, but the "Ted Cruz was born in Canadia" is exactly the same as the "John McCain was born in Panama" bullshit. Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 11:37 PM (JMmQ9) ------------- No, it isn't. McCain was not born in the Republic of Panama. He was born on a US navy base in what was then sovereign US territory, the P Canal Zone. Both of his parents were US citizens. I'm not saying Cruz is ineligible but the situation is very different.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2013 07:53 PM (C8mVl)

726 Gay pron in Iran? Unpossible! I blame the Jews

Posted by: Achmadinnerjacket at March 14, 2013 07:53 PM (vA1V9)

727 Oh, dang, nobody has mentioned it, but this is Ides of March eve.

My favorite day of the year.

Posted by: Ghost of Caesars past at March 14, 2013 07:54 PM (hO9ad)

728 Am I the only Slayer fan that likes (or liked) Divine Intervention? First Slayer album I ever listened to, and "213" is still my favorite Slayer song. Actually inspired me to write a (completely terrible) novel. First concert ever - Slayer at Irving Plaza, summer of 1996.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 14, 2013 07:54 PM (81ahw)

729 Night BC. And the rest of you. I'm out as well.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at March 14, 2013 07:54 PM (jIaZt)

730 709 Ever wonder what kind of pron the rest of the world is searching for? Apparently there's an outfit that analyzes pron searches by state in the US and worldwide too. They give top 10's for everything.

http://www.pornmd.com/sex-search

The #1 search in Australia? Gay pron.

5 of the top 10 in Iran? Gay pron

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 14, 2013 11:49 PM (mNCbk)

Well, y'know -- that might be a little misleading.....

I mean, how many straight guys don't appreciate lesbian pr0n?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 07:54 PM (kaalw)

731 Current copyright law is bullshit and way, way too long. Fuck em.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 07:54 PM (ZPrif)

732 Husker Du, guys. Husker Du.

Seriously, anyone who hasn't heard "I'll Never Forget You" by Husker Du doesn't even know what hardcore means: http://tinyurl.com/abt9k4k

Also, listen to "What's Going On" for approximately 10 seconds and you'll immediately realize that Smashing Pumpkins stole their best single song from Husker Du: http://tinyurl.com/ad3vqkx

Seriously! Listen to that last link. The plagiarism is hilariously obvious.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:54 PM (/COnL)

733 Watching MSNBC. Tom DasChle on. They are an incoherent dumb ass group. But they fool the other dumbasSes into voting.

Posted by: RWC at March 14, 2013 07:55 PM (sqp6o)

734 Maybe we can work something out. Gimme a shout through email on specifics. It's {my nic} @ gmail.com

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 11:48 PM (GEICT)

Done!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 07:55 PM (yh0zB)

735 Because musicians are making something. Mathematicians are just discovering something that is already there (in theory, anyhow.) Having said that, I note that Saxon's books weren't free. The ideas were freely taken. Allow mathematics to be patented and give me all the patents. If you like your IP/TCP protocol, you can keep your IP/TCP protocol. For a fee.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 14, 2013 07:55 PM (xSegX)

736 in re: John Cusak: his best work was Better Off Dead; the distant second was Grosse Pointe Blank. The rest? Never heard of them. /Charlie Gibson

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 07:56 PM (JMmQ9)

737 "" I mean, how many straight guys don't appreciate lesbian pr0n?" Straight women too. There was a survey on my birth board of all places, and women love them some lesbian porn, apparently.

Posted by: lauren at March 14, 2013 07:56 PM (D4tR0)

738

Why are copyright laws longer than patent laws?

Better lawyers.

Why are we arguing about protecting the intellectual property long after their creators have died?

The same reason we don't bulldoze houses the day after the builder's funeral - it belongs to his heirs.

BTW, I can't copyright a historical interpretation anymore than you can copyright a mathematical idea. My book or article - the assembly of words that I created - can be copyrighted, but not the idea behind them. If you want to get money for your ideas, put them in a book that people want to pay money for and market that, like every other academic discipline.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 07:56 PM (P7nGQ)

739 ...with most fights lasting only 3 rounds, many of which are decided by a submission, i'd disagree. Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 11:40 PM (I88Jc) Like I said, I'm no expert on UFC bouts but I know what I saw. You drive a knee or elbow or a naked fist into a man's unprotected head enough times, he'll be looking and sounding like Nick Nolte on a perpetual tequila bender in a few very short years. But hey, I was young once. I know what it feels like to be bulletproof and immortal. I don't blame young men for doing what young men do. I blame those ruthless money-grubbing bastards who organize and televise these events and apparently dropped traditional sporting safeguards for the sake of ticket sales. Fuck them.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2013 07:57 PM (ptcFO)

740

>>Am I the only Slayer fan that likes (or liked) Divine Intervention?

No. That is actually my favorite Slayer LP. Too late to be considered a best of the genre, though.

I have that Irving Plaza show, too. First concert in 1996?

Lawn. Off.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 07:57 PM (7w/32)

741 Hey, remember when people predicted this would be the "shortest ONT ever?"

We're nearly at 750 posts and it ain't even midnight yet. I credit my desperate attempt to steer us onto music instead of TEH GAYZ.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:57 PM (/COnL)

742 First concert in 1996? Yeah, but I was kinda old for a first timer - already in college.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 14, 2013 07:58 PM (81ahw)

743 I'd have pegged Mr Moo Moo as a Judas Priest man.

"Ram It Down" indeed.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 14, 2013 07:58 PM (xKC/c)

744 I would have pegged moo moo as a Queen, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, and Extra Fancy man.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 07:58 PM (iOny9)

745 >>>Lawn. Off.

They have a lawn at the halfway house? Who knew?

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 07:59 PM (/COnL)

746 723 No mention of Rand Paul's interview in the National Review? He said he wants to get the government out of marriage altogether. Make everything civil unions (because adults can make any sort of contract they chose), and adjust the tax code. Only churches would perform marriages. All the commenters said that the gheys would never stand for it.

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 14, 2013 11:53 PM (Lqy/e)

The second- and third-layer ramifications of that is where things get interesting. One HUGE problem with gay marriage is that there is no comprehensive list of what the hell marriage is, so far as the government is concerned. If there were, you could go down that list one item at a time and say, "is this ok for gays?" or "is this ok for the 21st century?" and figure it out. But things like "a spouse may not be compelled to testify against the other spouse"? -- a bunch of this stuff isn't even written down.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 07:59 PM (kaalw)

747

>>>TEH GAYZ.

They like music, too. Madonna. For one.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 07:59 PM (7w/32)

748 hi prescient11. Two Words for You. Enter Sandman. Sleep tight. Exit Light. Enter Night.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 08:00 PM (0PiQ4)

749 Most "Big L" Libertarians would join the Khmer Rouge because their leader was Pol Pot

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 14, 2013 11:49 PM (Vk2pI)

I usta be a card carrying Libertarian, right up until September 11, 2001 when the dope addled pacifists couldn't make up their mind whether or not going after the taliban and al q would be a legitimate use of force. Fuck em and the horse they rode in on, they'd vote for the devil himself if it would legalize weed. Party of principal my sweaty ballsack.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:00 PM (yh0zB)

750 The other five are in Congress...>>

Well I have blackmail on 5 so of course they voted that way.

Posted by: Harry The Pederast Reid at March 14, 2013 08:00 PM (gJZ2P)

751

Lawn.

Green institutional carpeting.

Same thing.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:00 PM (7w/32)

752 No mention of Rand Paul's interview in the National Review? He said he wants to get the government out of marriage altogether. Make everything civil unions (because adults can make any sort of contract they chose), and adjust the tax code. Only churches would perform marriages. All the commenters said that the gheys would never stand for it.

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 14, 2013 11:53 PM (Lqy/e)

I believe this is the path to go, get govt. out of the marriage business. Some here disagree, but just my two cents.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 14, 2013 08:01 PM (NzBQO)

753 Two Words for You.

Enter Sandman.

Sleep tight.

Exit Light. Enter Night.

Posted by: L, elle at March 15, 2013 12:00 AM (0PiQ4)

Nothing Else Matters

Wherever I May Roam

My two favorites off of the black album.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:01 PM (yh0zB)

754 in re: John Cusak: his best work was Better Off Dead; the distant second was Grosse Pointe Blank.

The rest? Never heard of them. /Charlie Gibson

Posted by: AltonJackson

**************

Better Off Dead was hilarious. Most kids today wouldn't get

the Howard Cosell references.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 08:01 PM (iOny9)

755 >>>Yeah, but I was kinda old for a first timer - already in college.

As a guy who loved (loves) older music, the crap thing about being born in 1980 is that, by the time my taste had developed (first beginning in 1995 or so) everyone who I was into was either defunct or dead.

The one exception that I treasure: Radiohead. Got into them early, first concert in 1995, seen them 25+ times after that, and even have a semi-official connection to the band's camp at this point. A vastly underrated live experience, too -- not like they were the Grateful Dead or anything (another group that, surprise surprise, I'm a big fan of), but their setlists are/were different every night.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:01 PM (/COnL)

756 696---" Peaches, Cruz' mom grew up in Delaware. Married the Dad who fled Cuba. They moved to Canada briefly for work. She had him there, then they moved back and eventually his dad got citizenship." Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 14, 2013 11:46 PM (GEICT) ----------------------- I remember when people were saying that, if Obama were born in Kenya, he wouldn't qualify as a "natural born citizen." I dunno. But Cruz would be in that exact situation: born in another country, father not a US citizen, but mother a US citizen. (I assume she was. Was she?)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2013 08:02 PM (C8mVl)

757 Shit, Jeff B. You're hardcore. Out of my league on that metal

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 08:02 PM (0PiQ4)

758 I mean, how many straight guys don't appreciate lesbian pr0n?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess most guys figure out pretty quickly that searches for "lesbian pron" and "gay porn" produce radically different results.

Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2013 08:03 PM (hO9ad)

759 No Cro-Mags fansmhe?

Posted by: RWC at March 14, 2013 08:03 PM (sqp6o)

760

If you want a good metal album?

GWAR - 'War Party'.

Good stuff that GWAR. Good. Stuff.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:03 PM (7w/32)

761 Me too GGE. Both good ones.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 08:04 PM (0PiQ4)

762 The same reason we don't bulldoze houses the day after the builder's funeral - it belongs to his heirs. Rally? I thought the protectors of such laws believed in a death tax. But it isn't about heirs, which is somewhat defensible. The Disney corporation -- corporation -- actually gets sympathy that they may lose Mickey Mouse. Those stockholders didn't create squat. BTW, I can't copyright a historical interpretation anymore than you can copyright a mathematical idea. Your ideas depend heavily on particular language. A mathematical proof can be easily rewritten. Besides, anybody ever make patentable stuff from historical interpretations?

Posted by: AmishDude at March 14, 2013 08:04 PM (xSegX)

763 We're nearly at 750 posts and it ain't even midnight yet. I credit my desperate attempt to steer us onto music instead of TEH GAYZ.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 11:57 PM (/COnL)

Why shouldn't teh gayz be able to experience the joys of divorce court is what I say. Two consenting adults, nuff said.

Glenn Miller, greatest big band arranger of all times. Discuss.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:04 PM (yh0zB)

764 By the way, it really is true: you don't have to be on drugs to really, really dig the Grateful Dead. (Or their live music, at least. From 1967-1977, that is...everything afterwards is pretty much intolerable dreck.)

Seriously people: Europe '72. It's actually a fanfuckingtastic album, but the trick is that it's not "hippie psychedelic" music at all...it's amazingly accomplished bluegrass/country/folk/blues stuff, with only a smattering of hippie-ish stuff. If you don't like "Jack Straw" you may not actually have a soul:

http://tinyurl.com/akkgprh

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:05 PM (/COnL)

765 749 Most "Big L" Libertarians would join the Khmer Rouge because their leader was Pol Pot

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 14, 2013 11:49 PM (Vk2pI)

I usta be a card carrying Libertarian, right up until September 11, 2001 when the dope addled pacifists couldn't make up their mind whether or not going after the taliban and al q would be a legitimate use of force. Fuck em and the horse they rode in on, they'd vote for the devil himself if it would legalize weed. Party of principal my sweaty ballsack.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 15, 2013 12:00 AM (yh0zB)

I used to be a Libertarian until 2008, when I realized that dicking around had helped elect a SCoaMT.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 08:05 PM (kaalw)

766 UFC claims it is less damaging than boxing. There's no real evidence. A lot fewer people do it and it's so new we don't have doddering invalids in their 50s yet. But we will soon. Gary Goodridge has already been diagnosed with CTE and dementia. He fought in the early years of UFC but he's forgotten now. He's only 47. He fought 85 times and got knocked out 24 times. He did MMA and kickboxing. The last decade he fought mainly in Asia and Europe. He mainly played the role of the big, scary black guy for the local hero to beat up. He was good when he was young. But for the last decade he got paid to get knocked out. There are several aging big black guys who make a living this way. They still look scary to asians and europeans, but they've lost their skill. They are just tomato cans at this point. The smart ones learn to take a dive early.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 08:06 PM (ZPrif)

767 The one exception that I treasure: Radiohead. I really like Radiohead, but have never seen them in concert. It's actually kind of sad how few live shows I've been to - I'm not sure I've been to 25 total. The only repeats are U2, who I saw three times at Madison Square Garden in 2001, including a post-9/11 concert which was just awesome. Saw Metallica three times - twice arena and one stadium (Giants Stadium). Much better in the arena. Could barely hear them at the stadium. And ditto on not seeing my favorite acts.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 14, 2013 08:07 PM (81ahw)

768

The only flaw in Europe 72' is Donna G.

Damned shame she only got laryngitis for one week in 76.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:07 PM (7w/32)

769 #730

Most places I've noted with a search feature don't treat lesbian porn as gay. For them it falls under straight and the gay category is exclusively men with men. Or things that were born male.

Although there may not really be much consensus from that. I've noticed a hell of a lot of porn sites (at least those I've seen, which is perhaps .001% of all those out there) seem to be based on the same template that somebody sells.

Posted by: epobirs at March 14, 2013 08:07 PM (kcfmt)

770 >>>Shit, Jeff B. You're hardcore. Out of my league on that metal

Meanwhile, I just posted links to hippie country music before reading this. And was pimping Genesis at the beginning. I got broad tastes, as it turns out. Just happened that way, didn't mean to be 'that guy.'

But seriously: you're familiar with the Smashing Pumpkins song "1979," right? (It's IMO their best song.) Listen again to Husker Du's "What's Going On" (which I linked in that post) and just try and explain to me how it's not a straight rip-off.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:07 PM (/COnL)

771

It all comes down to.....I have no desire to "pick" my battles any longer....

I choose to take on ALL comers....24/7 and lets see who has the desire to win.

Win what you may ask?

Everything that is near and dear to you......EVERYTHING!!!

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 08:08 PM (j/F54)

772 Well it's been fun talking metal, but it's waaaaay past bedtime. Night all.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 14, 2013 08:08 PM (81ahw)

773

But when Pigpen was alive, the Dead were awesome.

Some of my favorite live stuff is the Micky and the Heartbeats stuff from 68.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:09 PM (7w/32)

774 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2013 11:53 PM Thx, Margarita. I am under-informed on the whole "Cruz" dealio; I just heard of him being born in Canadia 72 hours ago. I'll be doing some homework over the weekend.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 08:09 PM (JMmQ9)

775 With that being said, the Libertarians talk a good show and I do believe in many of their principles, it's just the LP isn't very good at living up to them.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:09 PM (yh0zB)

776 769 #730

Most places I've noted with a search feature don't treat lesbian porn as gay. For them it falls under straight and the gay category is exclusively men with men. Or things that were born male.

Although there may not really be much consensus from that. I've noticed a hell of a lot of porn sites (at least those I've seen, which is perhaps .001% of all those out there) seem to be based on the same template that somebody sells.

Posted by: epobirs at March 15, 2013 12:07 AM (kcfmt)

Thing is -- you might know that, and I might know that, and the fappers of the ONT might know that.....but did the guys who did that "favorite pr0n in foreign countries" thing know that?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 08:10 PM (kaalw)

777 >>>The only flaw in Europe 72' is Donna G.
Damned shame she only got laryngitis for one week in 76.

Oh come on, she sings on literally ONE SONG on the actual album (the shows from the tour itself...that's a bit different. Really only "Playing In The Band" is harmed, tho'.) And it's a very discreet backing harmony part on one of the great songs from the LP, "He's Gone."

Also, the pedant in me wants to point that she was actually absent for a blessed three-month period in October-December 1973, on maternity leave. And yes, those shows are treasured by Deadheads in large part for that reason.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:10 PM (/COnL)

778 #767

I passed up a lot of free tickets in my youth because I get terrible headaches from most live shows. Doesn't matter if I like the band or not, the PA systems just seem to generate a blast in a range I find debilitating. It isn't a problem for playback of recorded material if the volume isn't insanely high.

Posted by: epobirs at March 14, 2013 08:10 PM (kcfmt)

779

>>a blessed three-month period in October-December 1973

I have most of those shows...and ALL of the 76 run.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:11 PM (7w/32)

780 The same reason we don't bulldoze houses the day after the builder's funeral - it belongs to his heirs.>>

As Amish eluded to the govt takes half of the worth on death. And If the future rights (which can be calculated) are x how many of those heirs could afford to keep them? Same as a farm worth $5 million that brings in $250K a year you pay up now for the value calculated. The other point is the writer sold his house and now want's the proceeds from all future sales..

Posted by: Harry The Pederast Reid at March 14, 2013 08:11 PM (gJZ2P)

781 Posted by: Jeff B. at March 15, 2013 12:07 AM (/COnL)

And, speaking of which -- I've seen most of the stills from ALLDOB, and there's even some crappy video......but man, oh man, would the entire concert showing up filmed in Technicolor be The Holy Grail or what?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 08:12 PM (kaalw)

782 The gheys you guys.

Posted by: Mr. Boo Boo

***

They can suck it.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 08:12 PM (iOny9)

783 here's some heavy metal for ya

http://tinyurl.com/avxpzwn

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 08:12 PM (BBWjt)

784

So what you may ask, will you do to obtain EVERYTHING?

You had better be ready to do ANYTHING!

F(^%k the new worldless order........

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 08:13 PM (j/F54)

785 In my collection:

Louis Armstrong

Metallica

Chris LeDoux

Moonshine Bandits

Jane Dear Girls

Gordon Lightfoot

Nancy Griffeth (yeah I have a Subaru, too. Fuck off)

Green Jelly (don't ask)

Jet

Cake

Glenn Miller

on and on and on...my musical tastes are a bit...eclectic...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:13 PM (yh0zB)

786

ONE SONG

That's why I called it the only flaw on Europe 72.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:13 PM (7w/32)

787 >>>But when Pigpen was alive, the Dead were awesome.
Some of my favorite live stuff is the Micky and the Heartbeats stuff from 68.

Huh. A Hartbeats reference? You know at least some of your Dead shit. I tip the cap.

Thing is though, I never much cared for those Hartbeats shows. They were an attempt to play without Bob Weir or Pigpen (because the rest of the band felt like they were 'holding them back' musically, retarding their growth...and they might've had a point at the time), but it never really gelled.

Agree completely on the Pigpen era though. 1967-1972, that's my wheelhouse for the Dead. The stuff immediately afterward (1973-1974) could be great too, but they really lost something when they lost Pig doing those blues numbers and the great lengthy jams like "Lovelight" and "Good Lovin'."

1970 -- If I had to choose one "year" for live Dead, that would be it. The "Dark Star" from 2/13/70 may just be my favorite piece of live music ever recorded. Glorious improvisation -- proof that drugs can't be ALL bad.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:13 PM (/COnL)

788 775 With that being said, the Libertarians talk a good show and I do believe in many of their principles, it's just the LP isn't very good at living up to them.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 15, 2013 12:09 AM (yh0zB)

Yeah, that's because a good portion are batshit crazy and the rest seem incapable of thinking strategically -- as opposed, say, to Dems who are pack-thinking totalitarians from sea-to-shining-sea -- or Republicans who are.....what's the third thing, again?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 08:15 PM (kaalw)

789

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:15 PM (yh0zB)

790 I'm pretty sure Steven Spielberg would argue pretty strongly that his historical interpretation entitled 'Lincoln' is well covered by copyright law.

Posted by: epobirs at March 14, 2013 08:15 PM (kcfmt)

791 I have zero sympathy for the copyright industry. Just don't care. Patents and real inventions are vastly more useful and enter the public domain after a short period. So should songs. So should books. But the Disneys bought Congress and won the issue. And most of the copyright industry works to undermine human liberty and prosperity. So fuck em. I give zero fucks about their concerns.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 08:15 PM (ZPrif)

792 what's the third thing, again?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 15, 2013 12:15 AM (kaalw)

Idiots.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:16 PM (yh0zB)

793 >>>And, speaking of which -- I've seen most of the stills from TLLDOB, and there's even some crappy video......but man, oh man, would the entire concert showing up filmed in Technicolor be The Holy Grail or what?

It sure would be, but unfortunately like the Holy Grail it's a myth. The band is adamant that the stage show for The Lamb was never professionally filmed. Which is truly perverse, as previous tours had at least one show filmed, and this was easily their most 'visual' stage presentation ever. But them's the breaks.

Guess we'll never get that glorious hi-def view of Peter Gabriel in his Giant Testicle Man suit that we're craving.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:16 PM (/COnL)

794 *tap tap*

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:21 PM (yh0zB)

795 here's some more heavy metal for ya

http://tinyurl.com/32vxta3

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 08:22 PM (BBWjt)

796

>>Agree completely on the Pigpen era though. 1967-1972, that's my wheelhouse for the Dead.

The Warlocks Demo and that material was by far my fav. Too bad there's so little of the live stuff from 65, though.

Pigpen just rockin' out on the organ all over that thing.

I'd have to go with 69, 70, 71. That was when it all gelled for the original lineup. and the chance of an 11 Jam at any moment? Hard to beat that shit.

2.13.70, huh? That's an awful good one. As shows go, 2.14 wasn't bad, either.

I always thought that you should be able to pick a multi-night stand as a fav 'show'.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:22 PM (3GYx7)

797 A study of 170 boxers and mma fighters showed significant brain volume loss (due to neurons dying and the brain shrinking) after 6 years of fighting and those who fought 12 years or longer showed much greater brain volume loss. Results weren't broken down by boxing vs mma.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 14, 2013 08:24 PM (ZPrif)

798 Jeff B

I got that last one. Youre the same as me, I think. I have eclectic taste in music. I like country, jazz, Big Band, classical, a tiny sliver of pop, rap, and hip hop.

Ima ready to cut out. But, before, I do

Give me your top 5 tracks. Like if you were stuck on a desert island and had only 5 songs to listen to.

What would they be?

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 08:24 PM (0PiQ4)

799 *whew* there for a minute I thought I'd have to do something drastic.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:24 PM (yh0zB)

800

Your ideas depend heavily on particular language.

Historical concepts are expressed in words, yes. They can be paraphrased and rewritten, though, and frequently are.

Besides, anybody ever make patentable stuff from historical interpretations?

Nope. Just stuff like policy decisions, wartime strategy, etc.

To be honest, I really don't see much a difference between a mathematician going around complaining that society doesn't appreciate what he does and a sociologist (or other despised social science/humanity, take you pick) going around complaining that his or her knowledge is undervalued.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 14, 2013 08:25 PM (P7nGQ)

801 Give me your top 5 tracks. Like if you were stuck on a desert island and had only 5 songs to listen to.

What would they be?

Posted by: L, elle at March 15, 2013 12:24 AM (0PiQ4)

Norah Jones. Doesn't matter which five, I could listen to her sing the phone book.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:26 PM (yh0zB)

802 Geesh, GGE, you got good taste. I havent listened to Norah Jones in forever. Thanks for that reminder.

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 08:27 PM (0PiQ4)

803 http://youtu.be/H_DgLCJWyBA

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:28 PM (yh0zB)

804 Mr. Poo Poo - Priest? Absolutely not.

It listens to music like a fag, and its shit's all retarded.

Priest is tank-driving music.

Posted by: Hell Bent for Leather at March 14, 2013 08:28 PM (CZCbG)

805 792 I have zero sympathy for the copyright industry. Just don't care. Patents and real inventions are vastly more useful and enter the public domain after a short period. So should songs. So should books.

But the Disneys bought Congress and won the issue. And most of the copyright industry works to undermine human liberty and prosperity. So fuck em. I give zero fucks about their concerns.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 15, 2013 12:15 AM (ZPrif)

The thing is, governments' interest in patents and copyrights are a TRADE. You put something into the river of culture, and the government helps you profit and protects you for a period of time....until the cord is cut and your work-product joins future citizens' birthright. Artificial extension of copyright (and patents) is really reneging on the original deal. If you want to make it impossible to quote or parody Steamboat Willie, have each viewer sign a 20-page contract before you let them watch in 1928.....don't kick copyright from 28 years (extendable for another 28 if the author is still alive) to 95 years after the work was produced.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 08:29 PM (kaalw)

806 ill be in my bunk...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:29 PM (yh0zB)

807 This is for you GGE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTxythHY09k

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 08:31 PM (BBWjt)

808 792 I have zero sympathy for the copyright industry. Just don't care. Patents and real inventions are vastly more useful and enter the public domain after a short period. So should songs. So should books.

But the Disneys bought Congress and won the issue. And most of the copyright industry works to undermine human liberty and prosperity. So fuck em. I give zero fucks about their concerns

**************

Subversion and misuse of a valid means of securing authors the commercial rights to their works isn't a valid reason for blowing off the concept.

Suppose you wrote The Great American Novel. Would you stand by and let an Internet heavy like Google copy it, digitize it, Kindle it, and pay you nothing?

Posted by: wholelottasplainin' at March 14, 2013 08:31 PM (WGOcs)

809

SUMMERTIME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJOtaWyEzaI

Posted by: NORA JONES and MARIAN McPARTLAND at March 14, 2013 08:31 PM (cp80l)

810 wait GGE.... I'm comin!!!

Posted by: Helen "cooter" Thomas at March 14, 2013 08:31 PM (Dnbau)

811 >>>I'd have to go with 69, 70, 71. That was when it all gelled for the original lineup. and the chance of an 11 Jam at any moment? Hard to beat that shit.
2.13.70, huh? That's an awful good one. As shows go, 2.14 wasn't bad, either.
I always thought that you should be able to pick a multi-night stand as a fav 'show'.

You know, for an abominable shithead, you sure do have solid musical taste.

Me, I'd take '68, '70, and '72. Three rather different sounds from the band but all of them compelling in their own way. I really adore the early 'Primal Dead' material from January-March 1968, with those early Dark Star > China Cat > The Eleven sequences and the occasional 20-minute freakout on "Viola Lee Blues." 1970, meanwhile, had all the great acoustic folky stuff plus the apex of their psychedelic exploration. 1972 was where Keith Godchaux got comfortable and all the great country-sounding stuff like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Woman" and "He's Gone" became fully integrated.

1971 is actually a really 'down' year for me. Sort of an interregnum, where Hart had left and Kreutzmann hadn't yet fully adjusted to his role as the band's sole drummer; meanwhile Garcia and Lesh had consciously decided to scale back on the jamming material and just play mostly straight-ahead shorter stuff. Some good shows there (Dick's Picks 35 has two of them, if you're into that series), but less interesting that the years which surround it.

The only knock against 1969 is that the first half of the year was a bit too repetitive in that the same few songs were being performed every night. By late October and November, however, they'd brought in most of the material that would become Workingman's Dead, and "Dark Star" was becoming more and more inspired as a melodic improvisation showcase. 11/8/69 (released as Dick's Picks 16t) is one of the all-time great Dead shows simply for its second set, which has their greatest medley of all time: Dark Star > The Other One > Dark Star > Uncle John's Band Jam (from before the words had even been written!) > Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven > Caution > The Main Ten (the prototype for "Playing In The Band") > Caution > Feedback > And We Bid You Goodnight.

A full hour and a half of nonstop music, every second of it mesmerizing. Godly.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:32 PM (/COnL)

812 Just let me catch you infringing on any of my copyrights and we shall see just how exactly how many fucks you give. LOL!

Like about half a million fucks and five years in the pokey.

Posted by: navybrat at March 14, 2013 08:32 PM (CgiRY)

813 oh man, after today, if I ever read the name Helen Thomas again, it will be too soon

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 08:32 PM (BBWjt)

814 I only was involved with a mere bit of "Lincoln" when Spielberg brougtht a small crew to film an "insert" with Ms. Fields to my soundstage at Panavision. He was very laid back and loved the fact that we still had the original Panaflex 35mm camera in our screening room which he filmed "Sugarland Express" on. Kinda got "How Cool" over that and wanted to take pictures....yes, a very nice man indeed, and a great day for me.....

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 08:33 PM (j/F54)

815

SEPTEMBER IN THE RAIN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s75W2SPUwVE

Posted by: NORA JONES and MARIAN McPARTLAND at March 14, 2013 08:33 PM (cp80l)

816 The other point is the writer sold his house and now want's the proceeds from all future sales.. Posted by: Harry The Pederast Reid at March 15, 2013 12:11 well, and even patents, you know for important things, are not granted forever.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 08:33 PM (Z9EHQ)

817 >>>Give me your top 5 tracks. Like if you were stuck on a desert island and had only 5 songs to listen to.

What would they be?

God, this is nearly impossible. Well, TONIGHT they would be:

1.) "Cinema Show" - Genesis (Selling England By The Pound, 1973)
2.) "I'll Keep It With Mine" - Fairport Convention (What We Did On Our Holidays, 196

3.) "Reckoner" - Radiohead (In Rainbows, 2007)
4.) "Future Days" - Can (Future Days, 1973)
5.) "TVC-15" - David Bowie (Station To Station, 1976)

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:34 PM (/COnL)

818 Always been a big fan of Husker Du. Saw em live once in New Orleans at Tulane University's McCallister Auditorium for the Warehouse Songs and Stories tour. I was turned on to them by listening to WTUL back in the mid 80's and was a fan instantly...even tho I saw em at the end of their run, it was a hell of a show.

Posted by: helofixer at March 14, 2013 08:34 PM (Va0Le)

819 heh Richard that's cool

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 08:34 PM (BBWjt)

820

Posted by: Peaches at March 14, 2013 10:27 PM (AJM+z)

Me, too, Peaches! Like I said, I'll happily dust off my Perry pon-poms!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl, still <3s Perry at March 14, 2013 08:35 PM (KL49F)

821 Suppose you wrote The Great American Novel. Would you stand by and let an Internet heavy like Google copy it, digitize it, Kindle it, and pay you nothing?

Posted by: wholelottasplainin' at March 15, 2013 12:31 AM (WGOcs)

I'd make the deal -- it won't be The Great American Novel unless America reads it and finds it popular, and that means I can have the government help me cash it out for a while but it will then belong to the people of America.

I think 28 years, renewable for another 28 if I haven't died in the meantime, is plenty of time -- which was the law in 1909.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 08:37 PM (kaalw)

822

Maetenloch

Thanks for the article on We Band of Angels. We need more people like that in our Country these days.

Posted by: Infidel at March 14, 2013 08:37 PM (gqEUi)

823 But I could carry that list on FOREVER, without repeating an artist once.

Other candidates:

6.) "Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again" - Bob Dylan (Blonde On Blonde, 1966)
7.) "You Never Give Me Your Money" - The Beatles (Abbey Road, 1969)
8.) "A Promise" - Echo & The Bunnymen (Heaven Up Here, 1981)
9.) "AT&T" - Pavement (Wowee Zowee, 1995)
10.) "New Lace Sleeves" - Elvis Costello & The Attractions (Trust, 1981)

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:37 PM (/COnL)

824 good night

Posted by: thunderb at March 14, 2013 08:37 PM (Dnbau)

825 The present Copyright law was headed up by none other than Senator Hatch from Utah, who plays a mean piano.

Posted by: navybrat at March 14, 2013 08:38 PM (CgiRY)

826 >>>Always been a big fan of Husker Du.

Well then, now I am a big fan of you.

Quiz: which is the better album, New Day Rising or Candy Apple Grey? Please cite to specific good songs and crap songs in your answer for full credit.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:38 PM (/COnL)

827

Nov. Fillmore run is awesome stuff.

Sine I have my Na out (and in the loop), I think I'm going to go downstairs and grab me one of those out of the rack and flat-wind it for later.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:39 PM (cp80l)

828

WTF!!!!!!

Radiohead on the ACE glidescope?

Then let me add "Staircase" from the basement sessions...

AWESOME bass riff.......

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 08:39 PM (j/F54)

829 Nak. Since I have my Nak out and in the loop.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:41 PM (cp80l)

830

To reiterate, Metallica even encouraged their fans to bootleg. Ironically I heard this from a bootlegged recording of a live Metallica concert BEFORE they hit it big. If they hadn't done that to start with I could have respected their decision to later go after the very people they used to encourage.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at March 14, 2013 08:41 PM (iOny9)

831 Holy cow, what a loquacious bunch of morons here tonight. 'sup? Friday for zeera, weekend starts in 7 hours

Posted by: zeera at March 14, 2013 08:42 PM (Lv9bM)

832

Oh, and as to the rest of you.

You don't listen to enough Joe Jackson.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:43 PM (cp80l)

833 I continue with my all-time favorite songs, not like anyone really cares:

11.) "Academy Fight Song" - Mission Of Burma (Signals, Calls & Marches EP, 1981)
12.) "The 15th" - Wire (154, 1979)
13.) "Our Love Was" - The Who (The Who Sell Out, 1967)
14.) "Gypsy" - Fleetwood Mac (Mirage, 1982)
15.) "Exiles" - King Crimson (the live version from U.S.A., 1975)
16.) "The Classical" - The Fall (Hex Enduction Hour, 1982)
17.) "Do You Remember, Walter?" - The Kinks (The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society, 1968 )
18.) "The Little House I Used To Live In" - Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention (Burnt Weeny Sandwich, 1970)
19.) "I Wish I Was Your Mother" - Mott The Hoople (Mott, 1973)
20.) "Soon" - My Bloody Valentine (Loveless, 1991)

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:43 PM (/COnL)

834 >>>Oh, and as to the rest of you.
You don't listen to enough Joe Jackson.

Well are you surprised? "Passion" is no ordinary word, after all.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:43 PM (/COnL)

835 OK, I'm out an hour forty past absolute bedtime, tomorrow morning is gonna suck tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 08:44 PM (JMmQ9)

836 http://youtu.be/cVGYssHra2c

probably her best, so far.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:44 PM (yh0zB)

837 well, and even patents, you know for important things, are not granted forever.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 15, 2013 12:33 AM (Z9EHQ)

Unfortunately, patents are not uniformly for important things. For example: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/07/07/amazon-loses-1-click-patent/ -- and, for another, the patents aren't always granted for the terms specified, either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreening

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 08:44 PM (kaalw)

838 okay, time for bed.

sometimes I wish I could be a "music guy". but oh well, 'twas not to be.

good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at March 14, 2013 08:45 PM (BBWjt)

839 I think Tilikum is hurt. Down goes Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale! Down goes Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale!

Posted by: zombie howard cosell at March 14, 2013 08:45 PM (ORGYc)

840 I think the answer for copyright should be that the duration varies according to the intent of the originator or his heirs. If a fictional character, e.g. Mickey Mouse, is a one-hit wonder, and never gets used again by its creator, then copyright should expire in 28 years. But if the character becomes an on-going enterprise, as indeed Mickey Mouse has done, then I don't have a problem with the Disney corporation getting ongoing copyright protection.

One suggestion: initial copyright should be free, and automatic, that is, implicit in the act of publishing a creation. First renewal: charge 10% of the anticipated revenue for the duration of the renewal. Second renewal: 20%. And so on. At some point, the cost of maintaining copyright will exceed the potential revenue that owning the copyright might bring in.

Just a rough idea. I'm not firm on the numbers at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2013 08:45 PM (29+x5)

841 We're nearly at 750 posts and it ain't even midnight yet. I credit my desperate attempt to steer us onto music instead of TEH GAYZ. Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 11:57 PM (/COnL) Why not have both? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFCZDNwomRA

Posted by: \m/ The Political Hat \m/ at March 14, 2013 08:45 PM (Vk2pI)

842 P.S. Garrett -- the confusion of Graham Parker and Joe Jackson was entirely intentional there, and not a function of liquor plus a hazy memory.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:45 PM (/COnL)

843 Jeff B Thanks for your top 5. I know 3 out of your top 5 which makes me slightly better than total stupid. I will listen. Next time we meet up, I'll give you my my review. So here are my top 5 FWIW: Zep - when the levee breaks Zep - that's the way Beethoven - 9th Syymphony Bach -- Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring All Billie Holiday Sorry that none of that makes sense

Posted by: L, elle at March 14, 2013 08:46 PM (0PiQ4)

844 >>>Nak. Since I have my Nak out and in the loop.

Hey, you're not one of those guys who has rare uncirculated Dead material hanging around in your basement on reel-to-reel, are you?

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 08:46 PM (/COnL)

845 Unfortunately, patents are not uniformly for important things. For example: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/07/07/amazon-loses-1-click-patent/ -- and, for another, the patents aren't always granted for the terms specified, either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreening Posted by: cthulhu no argument there but, the most important patent is probably more important than the most important song. actually, probably all of the best music is pubic domain anyway. only a fraction of what is produced every year is going to be remembered in a year anyway.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 08:48 PM (Z9EHQ)

846 is the thread over already?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 08:52 PM (Z9EHQ)

847 OK, I'm out. Gonna go chase Norah Jones around a pirate ship for a while. Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 14, 2013 08:53 PM (yh0zB)

848 so, eva longoria is getting something of a beer gut.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 08:53 PM (Z9EHQ)

849

>>Hey, you're not one of those guys who has rare uncirculated Dead material hanging around in your basement on reel-to-reel, are you?

No. But I used to know a few of them really well and got to pick through their shit and record of their masters. I have a pretty extensive tape collection.

But there's not much out there that isn't already available...as far as the Dead go. I think I might have some Hot Tuna stuff that has never gotten out there.

...and Graham Parker is nowhere near as good as Joe Jackson.

I have all of their albums. I have heard the Carolla rant. It's bullshit... you want to know the difference? Graham fucking Maby. That guy can lay it down.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 08:55 PM (cp80l)

850 is the thread over already? Posted by: yankeefifth at March 15, 2013 12:52 AM I've stopped posting and I am actually asleep now, so yes, the thread is over. *waves at yankeefilth*

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 08:57 PM (JMmQ9)

851 well night then.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 08:58 PM (Z9EHQ)

852

O.K!

Then how bout Billy Joel letting an 18 year old Freshman come up on stage with him during a Q and A at Vanderbuilt and said Freshman NAILING "New York state of mind" with Joel singing and after giving said Freshman MAJOR props........brought a tear to my eye....awesome day for said Freshman.....awesome day.....

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 08:58 PM (j/F54)

853 before I go to bed, I hate billy joel and everything he ever did.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 08:59 PM (Z9EHQ)

854 How can you hate Glass Houses!?...other than that All For Leyna track, of course.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 09:00 PM (6xhV+)

855

Anyone listen to Volbeat ? Danish band, sort of a mix of Metallica/ Johnny Cash/ Elvis mix.

I dig it.

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 14, 2013 09:01 PM (/7Xis)

856 How can you hate Christie Brinkley!?

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2013 09:01 PM (6xhV+)

857

before I go to bed, I hate billy joel and everything he ever did.

You're just upset that he got to tap Christie Brinkley.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 14, 2013 09:01 PM (DsPRa)

858 before I go to bed, I hate billy joel and everything he ever did.

Well, I hate you too, prick.

Posted by: Christie Brinkley at March 14, 2013 09:02 PM (hO9ad)

859 Y5 PRESSURE!

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 09:02 PM (I88Jc)

860

854

Then h8tr u be...live with it......

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 09:03 PM (j/F54)

861 In my experience the only people that want to get rid of copyright law are the exact same people that want all property rights eliminated, commies and anarchists.

Posted by: navybrat at March 14, 2013 09:03 PM (CgiRY)

862 oops, forgot about christie brinkley. however, if I had a choice of me doing christie brinkley or billy joel having never existed I would choose the latter, and I really am fond of brinkley - especially before she was fouled by billy joel.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 09:03 PM (Z9EHQ)

863 In my experience the only people that want to get rid of copyright law are the exact same people that want all property rights eliminated, commies and anarchists. Posted by: navybrat at March 15, 2013 01:03 AM well , there is a diference between copyright law and what the dmca does.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 09:04 PM (Z9EHQ)

864 856

Anyone listen to Volbeat ? Danish band, sort of a mix of Metallica/ Johnny Cash/ Elvis mix.

I dig it.

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 15, 2013 01:01 AM (/7Xis)

They're an interesting band. Playing in Fort Wayne soon or maybe they did already to a sold out show.

Posted by: buzzion at March 14, 2013 09:04 PM (GULKT)

865 They're an interesting band. Playing in Fort Wayne soon or maybe they did already to a sold out show.

Posted by: buzzion at March 15, 2013 01:04 AM (GULKT)

Really good live show. I saw them with Megadeath and Motorhead. \m/

Also saw them at the house of blues Anaheim

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 14, 2013 09:07 PM (/7Xis)

866 yankeefilth has made a motion to the floor to disregard Richard's motion to resuscitate, and while I do not totally agree with yankeefilth's opinion, and I do not disagree with Richard's position (saw it, it was great); regardless, it's really fcukin' late and we should all get some sleep. Meeting adjourned. /bangs gavel

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 09:07 PM (JMmQ9)

867

863

There is the "Touch Stone" then...

You hated your Father.....sorry for that.......it happens.

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 09:07 PM (j/F54)

868 841 I think the answer for copyright should be that the duration varies according to the intent of the originator or his heirs. If a fictional character, e.g. Mickey Mouse, is a one-hit wonder, and never gets used again by its creator, then copyright should expire in 28 years. But if the character becomes an on-going enterprise, as indeed Mickey Mouse has done, then I don't have a problem with the Disney corporation getting ongoing copyright protection.

One suggestion: initial copyright should be free, and automatic, that is, implicit in the act of publishing a creation. First renewal: charge 10% of the anticipated revenue for the duration of the renewal. Second renewal: 20%. And so on. At some point, the cost of maintaining copyright will exceed the potential revenue that owning the copyright might bring in.

Just a rough idea. I'm not firm on the numbers at all.

You've got some really good concepts there, but there are some holes as well. Original copyright is already free and automatic, but I like the escalating charges for maintenance. There should be a necessity for continuous publication as well. But, even then, remember that this great nation deigns to concern itself with property rights to intellectual property in order that subsequent generations of citizens will benefit from accumulations of knowledge and art. The deal is, you give it to future generations and we protect you from competition now -- otherwise, it makes the government merely a mercenary.

Let's say that I wanted to pass on some information from the golden age of computing -- 1996. And I wanted to quote an article from UNIX Review ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_Review ). That there is no way to legally do so until 2090 is freakishly obscene. The decaying issues in my garage may well be the last way to get that information -- and I'd have to physically present the original magazine to the intended recipient.

And that's merely when substantial works are being used. What about collages? Samples? Derivative works? Remixes? In truth, the useful life of creative work product is getting shorter and shorter, but the production of infinitesimal value from such work is getting longer and longer. And that's wrong for The People, their government, their intellectual freedom, their continued creativity, and common f'ing sense.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 09:08 PM (kaalw)

869 bangs gavel Posted by: Alton night

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 09:08 PM (Z9EHQ)

870 night everyone.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 14, 2013 09:09 PM (Z9EHQ)

871 'night, yf

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 14, 2013 09:10 PM (JMmQ9)

872 Fuck. I guess it's too late for me to broach the topic of Scott Walker (the avant-Euro musician, not the WI governor). You know, to really separate the men from mopey mooney whiny sensitive college kids.

Seriously, though: "We Came Through," "The Old Man's Back Again," "Nite Flights," "Big Louise," "The Amorous Humphrey Plugg"...unlike anything in current American pop/rock trends, but genius in every bar nonetheless.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 09:19 PM (8lbgd)

873 actually, probably all of the best music is pubic domain anyway. only a fraction of what is produced every year is going to be remembered in a year anyway.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 15, 2013 12:48 AM (Z9EHQ)

Sort of ties in with my point. Mozart was the "pop music" of his day, used to tour and everything.....and how many of the "Top of the Pops 1780's" can you name besides him? But everything else didn't become "public domain" -- it remained under copyright until someone could finally do Gluck revivals after a suitable time and maybe breathe some life into 'em.

I think Alberta Oil Peon is onto a great idea. Shorten "free" copyrights to maybe 5 years, and get 5-year extensions for 5% of what you earned from the specific work in the previous 5 years -- or $20,000, whichever is more (that'll teach you sit on stuff that doesn't sell!). Get as many extensions as you want while you're alive, and whoever inherits it can do 10 more.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 09:20 PM (kaalw)

874 Well then, goodnight all. Don't ask me why I've suddenly decided to participate in ONTs after studiously avoiding them for half a decade...just be glad I haven't entirely fucked them up.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 14, 2013 09:21 PM (8lbgd)

875

But there is much more that needs to be....dilecticly mined and thrown into the water sluss for seperation and cupping.....must apply "Little Labels.

OR, a fine tooth'd TORCH at about 12K Kelvins...sure to melt this into vapor

Some times, better if it made to be vapor....and the smell will be not so noticed as a weekend BBQ.....better for all of us...and a flame not seen

or for that matter......heard.

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 09:21 PM (j/F54)

876 Some 787 news for the sidebar, PA, wherever you are:

""No fire is possible" with 787 battery fix":
http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2020561865_787batterybriefingxml.html

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 09:22 PM (95QWT)

877 Mozart died a pauper, in a pauper's grave.

Posted by: navybrat at March 14, 2013 09:22 PM (CgiRY)

878 Finally catching up with today's CPAC speeches. Candidate wise, we are in a better condition than in '12. By '16, though, it may be too late...

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 14, 2013 09:25 PM (Vk2pI)

879

Great minds......

Are not in my Ball Park.

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 09:25 PM (j/F54)

880 If an infinite number of monkeys dance for an unlimited span of time, will they eventually do "The Hustle"?

Posted by: otho at March 14, 2013 09:27 PM (yBF/9)

881

"No."

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 09:28 PM (j/F54)

882 822 Suppose you wrote The Great American Novel. Would
you stand by and let an Internet heavy like Google copy it, digitize it,
Kindle it, and pay you nothing?

Posted by: wholelottasplainin' at March 15, 2013 12:31 AM (WGOcs)

I'd make the deal -- it won't be The Great American Novel unless America reads it and finds it popular, and that means I can have the government help me cash it out for a while but it will then belong to the people of America.

I think 28 years, renewable for another 28 if I haven't died in the meantime, is plenty of time -- which was the law in 1909.

********

Agreed, partially: no author knows if he's written something enduring until the public decides in his favor.

But as phrased ( and I didn't go back through the entire thread), I thought the argument was against copyright itself , not copyright "for a term of years".

Obviously, the term of years can be abused, and apparently it has been.

Posted by: wholelottasplainin' at March 14, 2013 09:29 PM (WGOcs)

883 So, will there be a religion started because of the discovery of the God Particle?

Posted by: Craig Poe at March 14, 2013 09:31 PM (BVkEs)

884

For the non-NASCAR motorsports fans here (all 1 of you); Formula One starts up this weekend on NBC Sports Network (practice is on right now). The 12 Hours of Sebring is on SpeedTV (Saturday). I would watch, but I work all weekend. The DVR will be near full by Sunday night.

Posted by: puddleglum at March 14, 2013 09:32 PM (72OBp)

885 I've either been drinking more than I thought or have a neurological condition -- I tried doing the first verse of http://tinyurl.com/bcsedru (at the second speed) and train-wrecked so badly I tried a the first two verses at the first speed and couldn't even do that.

At least the stuff I'm TYPING looks reasonably lucid.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 09:32 PM (kaalw)

886 881 If an infinite number of monkeys dance for an unlimited span of time, will they eventually do "The Hustle"?

Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 01:27 AM (yBF/9)

---

Maybe the Texas Two Step, but never The Hustle.

Posted by: Craig Poe at March 14, 2013 09:33 PM (BVkEs)

887 So, will there be a religion started because of the discovery of the God Particle?

A New Age faith of the Electric Slide.

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 09:34 PM (I88Jc)

888

884

"Yes."

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 09:34 PM (j/F54)

889 So, will there be a religion started because of the discovery of the God Particle? Posted by: Craig Poe at March 15, 2013 01:31 AM (BVkEs) What? And leave the Church of Madoka?

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at March 14, 2013 09:35 PM (Vk2pI)

890 Formula One starts up this weekendon NBC Sports Network (practice is on right now)

I was intending to get more sleep tonight, but apparently won't.

Is NBC Sports actually showing practice? I'm just watching a Sky feed on firstrow1.eu.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 09:36 PM (95QWT)

891 As Sky just mentions, both Mercedes pilots having yellow helmets is ... weird.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 09:38 PM (95QWT)

892 Thanks for the advice on the monkey thing. I won't keep pushing them. They seemed to have mastered "The Bump", but, I guess they're just not funky enough for "The Hustle".

Posted by: otho at March 14, 2013 09:40 PM (yBF/9)

893

886

"I'm flipping a coin on this.........

I do have to take into consideration that I drink to the point of cosmic "mind-block."

After this, there is only ONT mind melt....with ham and cheese on rye.....and pickles + Red

This I know.....

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 09:43 PM (j/F54)

894 569 Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2013 11:17 PM (sdi6R)------- That is a very powerful video. Thank you for linking it.

Posted by: Baldy at March 14, 2013 09:43 PM (opS9C)

895 But as phrased ( and I didn't go back through the entire thread), I thought the argument was against copyright itself , not copyright "for a term of years".

Obviously, the term of years can be abused, and apparently it has been.

Posted by: wholelottasplainin' at March 15, 2013 01:29 AM (WGOcs)

As is the case in so many cases, the original Constitutional scheme was an elegant balance devoted to National prosperity.....but people forgot the details, and started applying the monkey wrench assiduously to the exposed structure.

Intellectual Property has two branches -- contract and government. The ONLY purpose for government to be involved (beyond legal enforcement of contracts) is to amass cultural wealth for the people as a whole, not the Walt Disney Corporation or Pfizer.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 09:43 PM (kaalw)

896 893 The Funky Monkey is all the Rage in the Cage. They be throwing the shit, and shit.

Posted by: Craig Poe at March 14, 2013 09:46 PM (BVkEs)

897

I am playing between the posts it seems.....

not do care....

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 09:47 PM (j/F54)

898 Just noticed that the intro music for Rand Paul was "Enter Sandman"

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at March 14, 2013 09:48 PM (Vk2pI)

899

Is NBC Sports actually showing practice? I'm just watching a Sky feed on firstrow1.eu.

Practice 1 is recorded. Practice session 2 is live.

Posted by: puddleglum at March 14, 2013 09:49 PM (72OBp)

900 Oh good, formula1.com got their live timing working again, after fucking up in first practice, as is their routine at the first race of the season.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 09:50 PM (95QWT)

901 It was a good day for Conservatism.

Posted by: Craig Poe at March 14, 2013 09:50 PM (BVkEs)

902 I'm still watching practice session 1 because I watch the Pens/Maple Leafs first. I'll catch up eventually. I work weird shifts so I wind up recording a LOT. My DVR needs to be bigger.

Posted by: puddleglum at March 14, 2013 09:52 PM (72OBp)

903 MORE Obama being n arrogant POS ---- At a closed-door meeting between President Barack Obama and House Democrats, Kildee introduced himself as a freshman, to which Obama said, Â“Wow, youÂ’re really classing up the place then.Â” http://tinyurl.com/c7mny5y

Posted by: Baldy at March 14, 2013 09:58 PM (opS9C)

904 Binged him. He's the President of a Teamsters Local. I'm glad he's for gun rights, but it must be hell for him these days to be a Dem. Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 14, 2013 09:55 PM (4Mv1T) You can't find another buyer for this weapon? I just worry that you may be helping to arm an enemy against potential allies even though they are 3 hrs away.

Posted by: Deety who strews her Commas at March 14, 2013 09:59 PM (jVk2G)

905 Intellectual Property has two branches -- contract and government. The ONLY purpose for government to be involved (beyond legal enforcement of contracts) is to amass cultural wealth for the people as a whole, not the Walt Disney Corporation or Pfizer.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 15, 2013 01:43 AM (kaalw)

It doesn't bother me one iota that Disney Corp, has a death grip on Mickey Mouse until the heat death of the Universe. Why would anybody else want to profit from him? But new drugs, new computer chips, new hundred-mile-per-gallon carburetors (heh); give them their 17-year patent protection, and then stand back.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2013 09:59 PM (29+x5)

906 Only one thing incorrect about the Malala cartoon

CNN, the NY Times, etc would be on the side of the goons who tried to kill her

Because Obama is "trying to make America loved in the world"

Posted by: kbdabear at March 14, 2013 10:00 PM (mCvL4)

907 " The ONLY purpose for government to be involved (beyond
legal enforcement of contracts) is to amass cultural wealth for the
people as a whole,"

Hey, welcome to the thread, Chairman Mao!

Posted by: navybrat at March 14, 2013 10:01 PM (CgiRY)

908

So then,

The "Political Party of "Tusks.?

Are all in the groove?

Not.

So NOT!.......Time to toss this PAC-E-Derm out to the graveyard.....

And raise us some NEW TUSKS.....with Leathal Points!!

And STOMPY BOOTS/FEET!!

We should stomp this and Stomp that from this day and to the next day!!!

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 10:03 PM (j/F54)

909 900 posts ...

Flame war already?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 14, 2013 10:06 PM (UCv7P)

910 Rose are red, Violets are blue, Dancing monkeys eventually, Stop dancing and fling poo ...

Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 14, 2013 10:07 PM (TvO05)

911 And the smearing of Pope Francis continues apace. From Alternet, mouth piece of IMI and supported by Tides Foundation and Open Society Institute[Soros front], comes this piece saying Pope Francis was involved in the abduction of priests, two Jesuit priests during the time of the military dictatorship.
http://tinyurl.com/b2grk9z

Interesting little tib-bit on the author of the smear - Horacio Verbitsky. At one time he was a communist guerrilla in the 1970s - during the time of the military dictatorship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horacio_Verbitsky

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 14, 2013 10:08 PM (X81fn)

912 Vettel.

F1 really could update their live timing thingee. Isn't it the same as the teams have used since, I dunno, the '90s?

Tradition!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw

Don't just show the best lap, show the last lap time. Let me click on a list of lap times by driver, organized by stint. Show me what tire they're using. Let me compare laps, driver to driver.

Gah.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 10:09 PM (95QWT)

913 "If only those damn socons would follow the UK example"

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 10:09 PM (I88Jc)

914 Pope Francis killed Bin Laden. Spread the word.

Posted by: Craig Poe at March 14, 2013 10:10 PM (BVkEs)

915 Don't just show the best lap, show the last lap time. Let me click on a list of lap times by driver, organized by stint. Show me what tire they're using. Let me compare laps, driver to driver.

Gah.

Posted by: Waterhouse

Oh no, please do show all 500 laps. In slow mo. With commentary. 'Cause that's awesome.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 14, 2013 10:11 PM (UCv7P)

916 The super-soft tires appear to suck balls after half a lap.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 10:18 PM (95QWT)

917 MORE Obama being n arrogant POS ---- At a closed-door meeting between President Barack Obama and House
Democrats, Kildee introduced himself as a freshman, to which Obama said,
Â“Wow, youÂ’re really classing up the place then.Â” http://tinyurl.com/c7mny5y

Posted by: Baldy

Obama's narcissism will never register with the Left.

They all aspire to his grandure.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 14, 2013 10:20 PM (UCv7P)

918 906 Intellectual Property has two branches -- contract
and government. The ONLY purpose for government to be involved (beyond
legal enforcement of contracts) is to amass cultural wealth for the
people as a whole, not the Walt Disney Corporation or Pfizer.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 15, 2013 01:43 AM (kaalw)

It doesn't bother me one iota that Disney Corp, has a death grip on Mickey Mouse until the heat death of the Universe. Why would anybody else want to profit from him? But new drugs, new computer chips, new hundred-mile-per-gallon carburetors (heh); give them their 17-year patent protection, and then stand back.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 15, 2013 01:59 AM (29+x5)

I don't have any problem with Mickey content created today....just the stuff from 1928. Perhaps you wanted to introduce a new hand-animated character by having it pilot a steamboat and react to a cow? Mickey is a Trade Mark, and goes by different rules entirely -- which are, surprisingly, much more reasonable. Copyright is "quoting".

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 10:23 PM (kaalw)

919 Oh wait, that's perfectly legal. Mathematicians don't get intellectual property protection. Why should musicians be different? Because *most* theorems and proofs don't have a beat you can dance to.

Best attempt to monetize Mathematics came from Euclid in Book I Proposition 47. There was a whole created world that can generate spin-offs! Granted there are other ways to prove the Pythagorean Theorem but imagine the royalties you could earn from just the tattoo industry if you had a copyright on the non-right triangle surrounded by 3 squares image!

Posted by: Deety who strews her Commas at March 14, 2013 10:25 PM (jVk2G)

920 908 " The ONLY purpose for government to be involved (beyond

legal enforcement of contracts) is to amass cultural wealth for the

people as a whole,"

Hey, welcome to the thread, Chairman Mao!

Posted by: navybrat at March 15, 2013 02:01 AM (CgiRY)

Uh-huh....."the only reason for the government to involve itself in a dispute between parties is if one party had voluntarily contracted with the government to give up its rights to the public in return for limited government protection for a certain period" = Mao?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 10:26 PM (kaalw)

921 Night all. Here is some Megadeth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn01nSG4cvU

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at March 14, 2013 10:28 PM (Vk2pI)

922 aloha, elder god...

Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 14, 2013 10:29 PM (TvO05)

923 Oh, Louise ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 10:30 PM (95QWT)

924 G'night, Adriane. I just fixed a toilet this afternoon -- it only took 3 different fill valves to do the job. Whoo-hoo!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 10:30 PM (kaalw)

925 So, Vodaphone is leaving McLaren after this year. That explains the rumor about McLaren reuniting with Honda next season. I'd rather see Honda build a P1 car for Le Mans, but I prefer sportscar racing.

Posted by: puddleglum at March 14, 2013 10:30 PM (72OBp)

926 Keep it on the track.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 10:30 PM (95QWT)

927 I'd rather see Honda build a P1 car for Le Mans, but I prefer sportscar racing.

At least Porsche is getting back into the endurance fray next year.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 10:32 PM (95QWT)

928 I wonder what they'll do at Audi then. Audi-Porsche are under the VW umbrella that last time I checked.

Posted by: puddleglum at March 14, 2013 10:33 PM (72OBp)

929 At least NBC Sports kept the F1 crew that SpeedTV had (minus Bob Varsha). I find Leigh Diffey grating but otherwise its pretty good coverage. Varsha is at Sebring this weekend for SpeedTV.

Posted by: puddleglum at March 14, 2013 10:36 PM (72OBp)

930 I wonder what they'll do at Audi then.

Yeah, I don't know. They're all pretty profitable (7+grand Euro bonuses for all VW workers last year), so hopefully they'll allow some internecine rivalry.

Plus Toyota is getting serious about Le Mans, so maybe VW sees an advantage in having two types to compete against them.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 10:37 PM (95QWT)

931

"amass cultural wealth" (via the state apparatus).

Better yet, create the culture with subsidies, reward the message, reward the messengers, and have the tax payers pay for it.

Pure genius.

Like I said. c.m.

Posted by: navybrat at March 14, 2013 10:43 PM (CgiRY)

932 f1manager.info to get your F1 fantasy rocks off for free, BTW.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 10:46 PM (95QWT)

933 932

"amass cultural wealth" (via the state apparatus).

Better yet, create the culture with subsidies, reward the message, reward the messengers, and have the tax payers pay for it.

Pure genius.

Like I said. c.m.

Are you arguing for no special copyright protection at all?

The founders had a specific bargain in mind -- don't keep something secret, expose it to the world, and we'll help you cash in on it for a time.....'cause that will help our children prosper. You have several options -- keep it to yourself, expose it only with contracts, or take the deal. You want government help, though -- it's gotta default to Joe Schlubbo after a bit.

And note, also, that this is not going to the government -- it's going to whoever wants to use it. Or not. It's free, part of the heritage.

Under Mao, your inventions belong to the state and you only get a piece if you're incentivized. Here, it's your invention......and what you do with it matters.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 10:50 PM (kaalw)

934 The #1 search in Australia? Gay pron. 5 of the top 10 in Iran? Gay pron Posted by: @PurpAv at March 14, 2013 11:49 PM (mNCbk) That's kind of funny for Australia (given their historically sort of "macho" reputation).

Fucking chilling for Iran, though. One wonders what percentage of Gay Pron searches in Iran are instigated by the Theocratic Sharia Government of Iran searching to hang gays in public squares as "official justice" just as zealously as a Cliff Kincaid character wants to protect "conservatism" from "pollution"?

Posted by: Deety who strews her Commas at March 14, 2013 10:51 PM (jVk2G)

935 Fucking barely-discernible Benz helmets!

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 10:53 PM (95QWT)

936 Sen. Tim Scott's address to CPAC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jps5UibXZrA

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 14, 2013 10:54 PM (Vk2pI)

937 Your car is uglier than I am! .... that didn't come out right.

Posted by: Judy's sister. Carol at March 14, 2013 10:55 PM (IJHzz)

938

So.... if monkeys are here...they get 1st rep?

Just so ya all know....I do like to shoot me some monkeys

They die with the first bullet.....jus like Zombies....head snap and everything.... + gunk sprayin out the back and all....

Sad I will have to do the same to my monkey that has been changing the oil in my Hummer next week....it is the way of things.

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 10:55 PM (j/F54)

939 @869 Posted by: cthulhu at March 15, 2013 01:08 AM (kaalw) If you have keys to the blog (at least on weekends) I think you have solid germs for 3 different substantial poats.

Posted by: Deety who strews her Commas at March 14, 2013 10:57 PM (jVk2G)

940 I am not arguing on the side of Mao.
I was merely stating historical precedent.
Under Mao, artists (hence, "culture") either worked for the State (and for the specific glorification of the State) or they worked in the fields. Only those artists which glorified Mao were paid. All others, gone.

Posted by: navybrat at March 14, 2013 10:57 PM (CgiRY)

941 937 Sen. Tim Scott's address to CPAC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jps5UibXZrA

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 15, 2013 02:54 AM (Vk2pI)

I hate to say this, 'cause I'm lookin' to boost conservatism any which way possible, but I found this speech rambled and buried the lede. Saying that you have to talk "why" instead of "what" is insightful.....but where does that go? Come back and say, "we want to improve health outcomes, and these proven alternatives to Obamacare will do that" -- GREAT!!! "I feel your pain" -- wtf? "Message: I care" -- wtf?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 11:00 PM (kaalw)

942 Watching Rand Paul's CPAC speech, I note that Kevin Spacey could play Rand with a bit of hair work.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 14, 2013 11:05 PM (95QWT)

943 940 @869
Posted by: cthulhu at March 15, 2013 01:08 AM (kaalw)

If you have keys to the blog (at least on weekends) I think you have solid germs for 3 different substantial poats.

Posted by: Deety who strews her Commas at March 15, 2013 02:57 AM (jVk2G)

Thank you for your kind words. I have had keys during specific open blogger periods, but prefer to defer to the head Ewok and his chosen cob's during other times.

For future reference, however, what 3 different posts are you thinking of? Home repair, odd reminicscence, and general debauchery?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 11:07 PM (kaalw)

944 941 I am not arguing on the side of Mao.
I was merely stating historical precedent.
Under Mao, artists (hence, "culture") either worked for the State (and for the specific glorification of the State) or they worked in the fields. Only those artists which glorified Mao were paid. All others, gone.

Posted by: navybrat at March 15, 2013 02:57 AM (CgiRY)

And, see, that's exactly the genius of the founders -- look at Article I, section 8 -- "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;" -- it's marvelously limited, and the State intervenes in a very selective way to facilitate the transfer of knowledge from "Authors and Inventors" to the people, but doesn't touch ownership of these things at all.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 11:14 PM (kaalw)

945

It would be so very grand,

to take this toughtfullness to a 1000 yet...

I go to sleep....and care only for the rising sun...

and say night.

Posted by: Richard at March 14, 2013 11:29 PM (j/F54)

946

Posted by: Deety who strews her Commas at March 15, 2013 02:51 AM

Well, Australia was a giant prison for a long time and sheilas were few and far between. Also there was the whole royal navy, rum, lash and pirate thing. Yaaarr. Interesting fact... Australian Rules football was conceived by the governor in Melbourne to channel the inclination towards buggery amongst the convicts into something less offensive. It failed in that regard.

Posted by: otho at March 14, 2013 11:30 PM (yBF/9)

947 In the final seconds of the latest Adam and Drew podcast, Dr. Drew mentions a theory that Moses might have been a rogue pharaoh, based on his name being common among Egyptian rulere alone. I'm sure people in the past never named their kids after powerful contemporaries, as surely as there are no kids in pre-K named Barack today.

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 11:32 PM (I88Jc)

948 947 Posted by: Deety who strews her Commas at March 15, 2013 02:51 AM

Well, Australia was a giant prison for a long time and sheilas were few and far between. Also there was the whole royal navy, rum, lashand pirate thing. Yaaarr. Interesting fact... Australian Rules football was conceived by the governor in Melbourne to channel the inclination towards buggery amongst the convicts into something less offensive. It failed in that regard.

Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 03:30 AM (yBF/9)

I used to watch Aussie Football back when I was in High School (class of '79) in the LA area. Opening footage was tracking a guy running his guts out from one side of the screen to the other.....then you see the bouncing ball....then, before the guy gets to the ball, he collides with a goalpost in slo-mo. Reminded you of the whole "breakfast 'involved v. committed' speech". Y'know -- just think of your bacon and eggs.....the chicken was "involved", but the pig was "committed".......

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 11:34 PM (kaalw)

949 I used to watch Aussie Football back when I was in High School (class of '79) in the LA area. Opening footage was tracking a guy running his guts out from one side of the screen to the other.....then you see the bouncing ball....then, before the guy gets to the ball, he collides with a goalpost in slo-mo. Reminded you of the whole "breakfast 'involved v. committed' speech". Y'know -- just think of your bacon and eggs.....the chicken was "involved", but the pig was "committed".......

Posted by: cthulhu at March 15, 2013 03:34 AM

Oh, you poor man. And you watched that stuff without a gun at your head? Aussie rules is like watching seagulls fighting over a chip, at the beach. Also, it's teh ghey.

Posted by: otho at March 14, 2013 11:38 PM (yBF/9)

950 For future reference, however, what 3 different posts are you thinking of? Home repair, odd reminicscence, and general debauchery? Well,sure! If you can get all 3 in 1 that would be great. Then again, separated out.. We already have Purple Avenger, Dave in Texas and Charlie Brown's Dildo. So, you would be kind of a supernumerary at that. Here could be one post that I gave your para a scan-and-pass because it was irritating. Let's say that I wanted to pass on some information from the golden age of computing -- 1996. And I wanted to quote an article from UNIX Review ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_Review ). That there is no way to legally do so until 2090 is freakishly obscene. The decaying issues in my garage may well be the last way to get that information -- and I'd have to physically present the original magazine to the intended recipient. I am intrigued. *Protip* Don't make most of your comment dependent upon an oblique reference to sites that cannot be linked to in the comments section of a blog where 70% of users don't have &'s! I would include a snippet or two to explain the link in a post.

Posted by: Deety at March 14, 2013 11:38 PM (jVk2G)

951

Late to the party, but just wanted to add to the music thread:

The Pogues

The Cure

The Pixies

(First two probably already mentioned, but didn't see them - don't think the last was.)

Posted by: A. Pendragon at March 14, 2013 11:38 PM (wJliR)

952 Also, Letterman had a thing tonight about Francis being the Gaucho Pope that was pretty funny, and actually did a bit earlier in the week where he called the Conclave that was a real callback to the surrealism that made his show so unique back in the day.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at March 14, 2013 11:42 PM (wJliR)

953 Sumo is where it's at. Two men enter; one man leaves. Both too grotesquely fat to arouse anything but a tab with the local butcher.

Posted by: derit at March 14, 2013 11:45 PM (I88Jc)

954

And.... crickets......

Posted by: A. Pendragon at March 14, 2013 11:45 PM (wJliR)

955 Anyone remember that guy back in the primary season that posted WAR Rick Perry?

Posted by: A. Pendragon at March 14, 2013 11:48 PM (wJliR)

956 951 For future reference, however, what 3 different posts are you thinking of? Home repair, odd reminicscence, and general debauchery?

Well,sure! If you can get all 3 in 1 that would be great. Then again, separated out..

We already have Purple Avenger, Dave in Texas and Charlie Brown's Dildo.

So, you would be kind of a supernumerary at that.

Here could be one post that I gave your para a scan-and-pass because it was irritating.

Let's say that I wanted to pass on some information from the golden age of computing -- 1996. And I wanted to quote an article from UNIX Review ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_Review ). That there is no way to legally do so until 2090 is freakishly obscene. The decaying issues in my garage may well be the last way to get that information -- and I'd have to physically present the original magazine to the intended recipient.

I am intrigued.

*Protip* Don't make most of your comment dependent upon an oblique reference to sites that cannot be linked to in the comments section of a blog where 70% of users don't have &'s!

I would include a snippet or two to explain the link in a post.

Posted by: Deety at March 15, 2013 03:38 AM (jVk2G)

I'm sorry, Deety, but I'm missing something -- I used the link *in your post* to get to the sad, sad story of UNIX Review and it worked. And there were no ampersands involved. And I don't have ampersands, either -- although I understand that platinum-level Ace subscribers get them.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 14, 2013 11:48 PM (kaalw)

957 Because that was a thing, and it worked in an inexplicable way....

Posted by: A. Pendragon at March 14, 2013 11:49 PM (wJliR)

958 Kind of like in the "Raking Leaves" sketch on Stella, when Michael Showalter points at Bradley Cooper and says 'He's Satin!" And every bit of that, including the mispronunciation, works in a way that would take a PhD dissertation to explain.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at March 14, 2013 11:54 PM (wJliR)

959 http://tinyurl.com/ad53xlj (Fox News)
Obama wastes millions, blames Bush

Missile Field Number One was one of the areas where the Obama administration stopped construction in 2009. Congressional sources say it will cost at least $205 million to bring that missile field up to speed, more than it would have cost four years ago. These officials say the price of the missiles themselves also has increased.

An Obama administration official tells Fox News that the increase in interceptors is a logical response to an evolving threat from North Korea and that Â“anyone who suggests we should have stayed the courseÂ” with the Bush administrationÂ’s plan is engaging in Â“Monday morning quarterbacking.Â”

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at March 15, 2013 12:07 AM (bGlsD)

960 And, see, that's exactly the genius of the founders -- look at Article I, section 8 -- "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;" Eh. If you want,you can waste many $$$ on David Weber's Safehold series. He addresses copyright law as a military and moral imperative in between interminable descriptions of: Cannon Weight Cannon Bore The difficulties in arming (improving) a giant fleet without measurement standards. How to fucking AIM correctly (but he thinks that giving The Calculus out of the box is a solution. No, it isn't! You wan't to lob deadly shit reliably at people, from a boat? Stick with Gallileo. That was his jerb! Some officer type feeling nervous and noticing the same nervousness in a much lower ranking subordinate and brusquely comforting the subordinate so as to make the both of them man up and face their own duties. Lots of cannon-thunder and splinters rending human beings apart. A bunch of bullshit about sails being set,or not,or masts being blown to pieces,or not. War is very chaotic, doncha know! Anyway, Weber does address the importance of patents and copyright.

Posted by: Deety at March 15, 2013 12:19 AM (jVk2G)

961 Finland has taken marriage out of their tax code. All taxes there are individual. Read that the approach is fairly popular because it simplifies taxes. Don't know what other effects it has had.

Posted by: Emily at March 15, 2013 12:41 AM (q0xB2)

962 The law allows for quoting from copyrighted material just fine. It falls under fair use. It is as legit for reproduce a chunk of an article in another article as it is for Quentin Tarantino to build an entire scene of a movie around two characters analyzing another movie.

Posted by: epobirs at March 15, 2013 12:56 AM (kcfmt)

963 Sorry. I hadn't realized how much I was not liking the Weber series until I read your comment on copyright. There is much to like and much to be intrigued by but I ain't buying anymore from David Weber. Maybe it's me and Triremes... I thought Thucydides a crashing bore even translated by Hobbes, took forever to get to Pericle's Speech. Would have skipped over it completely if not for so many others mentioning it during Seminar.

Posted by: Deety at March 15, 2013 01:05 AM (jVk2G)

964 climategate 3.0 is afoot.

Posted by: jc at March 15, 2013 01:41 AM (PlzOe)

965 Just went to the Fender site. Looks like ~~"dating"~~ (whew, almost forgot who I was talking to) figuring out when my guitar and amp were made is going to be tough with my limited knowledge.

Posted by: teej at March 15, 2013 01:52 AM (JCIjD)

966 Just went to the Fender site. Looks like "dating" (whew, almost forgot who I was talking to) figuring out when my guitar and amp were made is going to be tough with my limited knowledge.

Posted by: teej at March 15, 2013 05:52 AM

Fender what? strat? You know the year, though?

Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 01:57 AM (yBF/9)

967 Hi otho, I have a Fender Bullet Deluxe and a Fender Super Twin Reverb. The serial # on the guitar doesn't fall within the offered charts and serial #'s are no help on amps. The amp is blackface. It must be denounced.

Posted by: teej at March 15, 2013 02:02 AM (xDlyw)

968 OK- just saw the tube sticker inside the amp. If I'm remembering what I read at the site correctly it's a June of 76 production. If I knew what year they quit making the "Deluxe" model Bullet it would help.

Posted by: teej at March 15, 2013 02:08 AM (ma+gB)

969 Hey Teej. A Bullet, huh? Was hoping you'd say telecaster, coz I could be of some use. Used to know a bit about strats, well enough to ballpark it, but I've forgotten a lot of stuff. That's weird about the numbers for the Bullet, but, Fender's internet info doesn't seem to be as comprehensive as the old books were. The Twin reverb I couldn't tell you. Is there someone local you could take them too, who could give them a look over?

Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 02:09 AM (yBF/9)

970 Ha! 76 twin reverb! kickass!!

Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 02:11 AM (yBF/9)

971 Teej, the BD was only made in 82 and 83.

Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 02:14 AM (yBF/9)

972 I think the guys over at Mass St Music in Lawrence might be able to help on the guitar. I need to repair or replace the 3-way switch. Would hate to pull the neck for a date stamp on it.

Posted by: teej at March 15, 2013 02:15 AM (QbKVX)

973 76 Fender amps were silver face as I recall

Posted by: DAvinci at March 15, 2013 02:18 AM (XDC0v)

974 Yeah, nah... don't mess with the neck. The guys at Mass st might have enough inside info (maybe an old school book), to be able to tell you exactly... well, in theory, anyway. Not sure if it still the case in the early to mid 80's, but the system was kind of messed up and only certain number batches were a lock for quite awhile. In any event it's either 82 or 83. The details may nail it down a bit more, probably. Nice setup you got, though. Bet it sounds fantastic. Bullets and Mustangs are good. I like them.

Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 02:21 AM (yBF/9)

975 Thanks otho!! And that's a Super Twin Reverb. They remade the Super Twins and the Twin Reverberations but not the STR's. Maybe because it takes an offensive lineman to haul them around?

I had read that Fender had the "players" of the day tell them what they wanted in an amp and the STR was born.

Posted by: teej at March 15, 2013 02:24 AM (BfZ1r)

976 DAvinci, they came in silver, black and brown. Mine is black behind the knobs with a black screen.

Posted by: teej at March 15, 2013 02:27 AM (cWpCn)

977 Oh sorry, you said 76. The paper "tube" sticker in the back says 013766. I think at the Fender site it said the 76 denotes year and the 6 denotes month. Will go back and check tonight.

Posted by: teej at March 15, 2013 02:31 AM (GhSTE)

978 Yeah, my phone spelled out Reverberations, not me.

Posted by: teej at March 15, 2013 02:34 AM (GhSTE)

979 I guess the guitar was a little newer than I thought. Still, picked it up in a pawn shop in 86 for $200. Bought the amp used for $300. While I'm sure there are a number of them still around I've never seen either one. Have some old Ludwig's from back in the day too. Silver sparkle, gold sparkle and black and silver Pearl. And to really make BackwardsBoy drool, some old Zildjians.

Posted by: teej at March 15, 2013 02:43 AM (e0nsQ)

980 $200 isn't a bad price for the BD in 86. Could have been a bit cheaper from a pawn shop, but $200 sounds about right from a 2nd hand guitar/music shop. Haha... "Reverberations". That's what they should have called it. Sounds more blue suede shoes. $300 for the STR was a good buy. Ludwigs with zildjians? Nothing better.

Posted by: otho at March 15, 2013 03:24 AM (yBF/9)

981 Just out of curiosity, why link to someone else's post about the hole, rather than to the original story on Coyote Blog?

Posted by: Rick C at March 15, 2013 05:18 AM (A9FNw)

982 LOL I love you Morons, but some of you would hate the military. We literally talk about few things besides chow, politics...and sex. LOTS of sex. But maybe it's for the best, keeping sex as a purely private concern means that 100 year ago people thought that Kellogs Flakes helped tame the sexual appetite. Thank God we live in a culture where we can discuss our sexual insecurities rather than make ourselves and our partners miserable. And this whole nonsense about "our kids live in a callous world." I'm a youngin' (20) but somehow I doubt that the 80s (AIDs epidemic, War on Drugs) the 70s (Skyrocketing crime) the 60s (18 year olds forced to fight in Vietnam, racism) were ideal timeframes. As someone who has consensual premarital sex (and believe it or not, not for lack of trying to find marriage) it's insulting to hear shit like "hookup culture causes Ohio teen rape." No it doesn't. Sick fucks cause that. Whatever dirty pics and messages I have on my phone were consensual. Ditto with sex. Sick fucks have always been around. Seriously. This whole high horse attitude is bullshit. Of every time period to live in, despite the SCOAMF, despite the crisis a minute routine-ours is undoubtably better and a more compassionate than USA 1913.

Posted by: Danny at March 15, 2013 07:24 AM (xZCU4)

983

How much is the federal government going to pay you? Ten cents on the dollar? A man bought an M2 machine gun for $3000 and sold it at auction for $85000. What did the federal government pay for an ounce of gold, $32 ?

Posted by: burt at March 16, 2013 07:31 AM (/QJXp)

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