March 18, 2013
— Maetenloch
Math and Logic are Hard, Female Native-Americans Hardest Hit
Which is why MA Sen. Elizabeth 'Fauxcahontas' Warren wanted to know why the federal minimum wage isn't $22/hour. I'll leave it to the reader to identify the logic flaws embedded in her question.
Democrat Senator Elizabeth Warren during a hearing of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions last week asked why the current federal minimum wage rate is only $7.25 and not $22 an hour."If we started in 1960, and we said that, as productivity goes up - that is, as workers are producing more - then the minimum wage is going to go up the same," the Massachusetts senator said during the hearing.
"And, if that were the case, the minimum wage today would be about $22 an hour. So, my question is what happened to the other $14.75?" she asked University of Massachusetts professor of economics Arindrajit Dube.
Also hard: white man economics 101.
Instapundit: "They'll Be Coming For Hoarders and Wreckers Next"
If you have what the government wants and won't give it up, you're a hoarder. And if you're not on-board with the government's plans, you're a counter-revolutionary saboteur wrecker.
And now this: In Connecticut, a "Hoarder's Tax." "Rep. Betsy Ritter, a Waterford Democrat, not only has sponsored a "combined reporting" bill, but she has also proposed a hoarder's tax. This would place a levy on liquid assets - companies with a lot of money in the bank - and dedicate the proceeds to job creation programs."
And given the coming Great EU Bank Robbery in Cyprus be afraid when the Obama administration starts complaining about people and companies 'hoarding' money in bank accounts instead of 'investing' it in the economy.
Rand Paul advisor warns RNC: Getting Rid of Caucuses in 2016 Means "Nuclear War" With the Base
Eh. For one thing it's a Politico quote so who knows how reliable it is. And secondly I've never been a fan of caucuses anyway (no secret votes, too prone to chicanery, election laws don't apply, etc.). Remember Huckabee in 2008 and Santorum in 2012 - yeah thanks a lot Iowa caucus.
And even if it is true, this is mostly strategizing on Paul's part rather than pure principle. I'll let Allah explain:
Caucuses favor candidates with intensely committed followers, even if their overall base of support is small. The caucus process takes much longer than simple ballot voting does so casual voters stay away while passionate supporters show up. That means overall turnout is way lower than in a primary, which in turn means that a dark horse candidate who lacks money and name recognition can pull a huge upset by mobilizing his fans. That's how Huckabee won Iowa in 2008 and Santorum won in 2012, with Ron Paul a close third.
So I suspect this is Rand planning a run in 2016 and wanting to be able to count on Ron's crazy passionate supporters to give him a win in the caucuses. But the thing is that Rand has enough going for him that he may not even need the Ronulons to grab him a victory.
I'm impressed with Rand so far and I like him but before I can like-like him he's going to have to eventually choose between the views and tactics of his father's Paulbots and his own path.
Have some confidence in your own appeal, Rand.
Adam Lanza Planned the Sandy Hook Massacre For Years
He was obsessed with mass murders and had compiled a massive spreadsheet of details of killings that measured 7' by 4'.
What investigators found was a chilling spreadsheet 7 feet long and 4 feet wide that required a special printer, a document that contained Lanza's obsessive, extensive research - in nine-point font - about mass murders of the past, and even attempted murders.
But it wasn't just a spreadsheet. It was a score sheet.
"We were told (Lanza) had around 500 people on this sheet," a law enforcement veteran told me Saturday night. "Names and the number of people killed and the weapons that were used, even the precise make and model of the weapons. It had to have taken years. It sounded like a doctoral thesis, that was the quality of the research."
And he wanted his name in the number one position. Plus it appears that his mother may have enabled his obsession with guns. How much she really knew about her son's mental state and planning we may never know.
"The fascination (Lanza) had with this subject matter, the complete and total concentration. There really was no other subject matter inside his head. Just this: Kill, kill, kill.
...The police in Connecticut believe that Lanza's mother, a gun lover herself, was an enabler of her son's increasing obsession with guns, that she was making straw purchases of guns for him all along, and ignoring the fact that he was getting more and more fixated on them.
Uh Oh: First Pop of the Coming Bubble Bath
This isn't the first time that a Chinese company has gone bankrupt but it is the first time that one has been allowed to go bankrupt publicly and stiff its bondholders. And it won't be the last - all those ghost cities won't pay for themselves.
For the first time, a mainland Chinese company has defaulted on its bonds. SunTech Power Holdings has been clinging on by its teeth but after failing to repay $541mm of notes due on March 15th - and following four consecutive quarters of losses through the first quarter of 2012 and since then having failed to report quarterly earnings - owed to Chinese domestic lenders, the firm is restructuring. ...This is highly unusual and perhaps is the beginning of a trend for Chinese firms. We already know the little discussed but gargantuan size of China's corporate bond market (which dwarves the US relative to GDP) as the mis-allocated credit tsunami of the last few years begins to hit its lending limit - just as Chinese corporate leverage is surging.
Also China Finally Doing Away with the One-Child Policy
China's demographics have been dramatically skewed by strict family planning. Last year, the working age population shrank for the first time in 50 years, a serious threat in an economy built on a huge pool of cheap labour.The incoming Chinese leadership has already moved to dismantle the Family Planning Commission, which has enforced the one-child policy, sometimes brutally.
"We need to find a new family planning policy to fit with the times," said Huang Jiefu, a former vice minister at the Health ministry, after seeing the Family Planning Commission merged into the Health ministry.
"Where else in the world can you find a Family Planning bureau? It was quite appropriate to fold it into the ministry," he added.
Wang Feng, a population expert and director of the Brookings-Tsinghua Center for Public Policy in Beijing, told the Wall Street Journal that the government had begun the process of bringing the policy to an end.
Government officials have said the merger will not affect this year's family planning targets. But Mr Wang said the denials were "a measure to save face and a recognition that they can't announce all the change in one day".
How Guys Will Really Use Google Glasses
Works for me. And don't trust that Siri - she's a blabber.
Sword Facts & Myths
- All Medieval swords weighed at least 12 pounds - FALSE
Most Medieval swords weighed around 2.5 lbs - even long hand-and-a-half and two-handed swords weighed less than 4 lbs.
- Medieval swords were not sharp - FALSE
Some surviving samples of Medieval swords are still sharp - many are razor-sharp.
- All swords should balance within 2" of the guard - FALSE
A sword's balance should be determined by its function, not an arbitrary standard. Swords intended for cutting often balance 5 or 6 inches from the guard.
- Swords were made to cut through armour - FALSE
Period armour was often work- and case-hardened and curved such that it is difficult to hit at a right angle. Late Medieval thrusting swords, even the ones with a reinforced point, were used to thrust into the gaps in armour, not through the plate.
Japanese swords have many admirable qualities and were well-suited to their intended use, but they are not necessarily sharper or better than a properly designed and sharpened Medieval sword.
- Japanese swords are the sharpest and best swords ever made - FALSE
And our own Christopher Taylor points out that most of what we think we know about Medieval swords and sword-fighting is wrong:
And the weapons were much better than is generally understood as well. The katana is a very fine sword made of multiple layers of different kinds of metal to generate strength and flexibility, with a harder section at the blade to retain sharpness and a softer at the spine to allow the blade to bend. This results in a very sharp, very strong sword that does not break easily. The process is very difficult and time consuming, involving folding and pounding the weapon, using a cooling and heating process that greatly strengthens the metal and blends in various elements.
And researchers have discovered that's exactly what European blacksmiths did as well. The art was lost over the centuries as broadswords became obsolete and became the rapier and foil, which have an entirely different construction. But old swords, manuscripts, and information from the medieval period have revealed folded blades with the same concept: a softer central core and harder, sharper portions for the cutting edges. The reason we know so much about the Katana is that they were still being made and used as late as the 1800s, and even were used by Japanese officers in World War 2. Their technology and skills weren't lost in time, replaced by the gun.
...In other words, the medieval knight learned martial arts, just not the eastern kind. And since that became obsolete due to gunpowder, people stopped teaching it and it faded away. The west tends to do that: we abandon what doesn't work anymore and don't whine about lost culture, we pick up what's better. That's why the Japanese were still fighting with swords in the 1800s and the west had rifles and steam ships. Eastern culture tends to be one of deep reverence for tradition and strong opposition to change and the new.
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Posted by: AltonJackson at March 18, 2013 05:57 PM (JMmQ9)
Sigh, having a bad day. Sorry for the rant. How you guys doing?
Posted by: Peaches at March 18, 2013 05:59 PM (AJM+z)
Posted by: Kortezzi at March 18, 2013 06:00 PM (0SBAn)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 18, 2013 06:01 PM (kcJJ0)
Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2013 06:01 PM (sdi6R)
***
Because some jobs aren't worth that much? Especially when you factor in that $22/h to an employee still costs the employer significantly more then that?
It is interesting - as a society are we better off having a low nominal minimum wage and 5% unemployment - Bushean economics -or a high nominal minimum wage and 15% unemployment - Obamanomics.
This isn't tough math...
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 06:02 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Joejm65 at March 18, 2013 06:02 PM (UZuc4)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 18, 2013 06:03 PM (Plelb)
***
National socialism actually.
Obama will leave the trappings of the free market in place, he'll just subvert them all to the state - like the European countries during WWII.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 06:04 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: L, elle at March 18, 2013 06:05 PM (0PiQ4)
That $40 poorly made Chinese knock-off blade (with genuine die cast zinc pommel) you bought from the BUDK catalog doesn't make your fat, pimply ass a fighting machine.
Posted by: You are a pirate, Yo HO! at March 18, 2013 06:06 PM (sD84o)
Posted by: Museisluse at March 18, 2013 06:07 PM (DGx2X)
***
They don't have to pretend anymore. We are doomed. I realized today that I will live the rest of my life with their fuckin' vegan jackboot on my neck. I don't even know if there's any point in fighting it, I am starting to think we can never win, at least in what's left of my lifetime. They want to give 11 million teat-suckers a vote, people who specifically came here for the free shit. I am starting to think there is no way we can overcome this juggernaut.
Should I change my nic to debbie downer?
Posted by: Peaches at March 18, 2013 06:07 PM (AJM+z)
>>>>>Democrat Senator Elizabeth Warren during a hearing of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions last week asked why the current federal minimum wage rate is only $7.25 and not $22 an hour.>>>
Why not $100.00 an hour, after all everyone 'deserves' a living wage.
Posted by: Javems at March 18, 2013 06:08 PM (c8xU9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 18, 2013 06:08 PM (GEICT)
wow, you all lucked out, that is good
Posted by: chemjeff at March 18, 2013 06:09 PM (BBWjt)
because Mickey d's hamburger deal will then cost 10 bucks or so.
Posted by: ette at March 18, 2013 06:09 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 18, 2013 06:10 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 18, 2013 06:10 PM (EWKEr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 18, 2013 06:11 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: chemjeff at March 18, 2013 06:12 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: NC Ref at March 18, 2013 06:12 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Adam at March 18, 2013 06:13 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 18, 2013 06:13 PM (Plelb)
so why not 100 an hour? and bennies
Posted by: ette at March 18, 2013 06:13 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2013 06:13 PM (64rcm)
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 18, 2013 06:14 PM (U+2kL)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at March 18, 2013 06:14 PM (oScEo)
Good news from China. I hope it is true.
Glad to see that the myth of the ungainly (and, implied, stupid and primitive) European knight is starting to be publically debunked - it has taken decades for it to hit the public consciousness. That is a pretty good article from Christopher Taylor, but I have one quibble - the notion that curved swords are inherently better cutters is based on the assumption that humans are a flat plane.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 18, 2013 06:14 PM (/ZHx6)
The assumption has been debunked.
The science is settled on the matter.
Posted by: Fatass Algore at March 18, 2013 06:15 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 18, 2013 06:15 PM (GEICT)
I always thought that in wage was what you got paid while your employer was deciding whether or not to keep you.
A high min wage posits (to me) that you are expected to work at that wage for your entire career.
Nice way to kill any initiative.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2013 06:15 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 18, 2013 06:15 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: SwampFox at March 18, 2013 06:16 PM (RTfgg)
Posted by: Woopie Goldberg at March 18, 2013 06:16 PM (UOjzE)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 18, 2013 06:16 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 18, 2013 06:16 PM (Plelb)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 18, 2013 06:16 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 18, 2013 06:16 PM (U+2kL)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 06:17 PM (TvO05)
Should I change my nic to debbie downer?
Posted by: Peaches at March 18, 2013 10:07 PM (AJM+z)
sit with me. I will start drinking more , and i will share. as long as my pennies hold out.
Posted by: ette at March 18, 2013 06:18 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2013 06:19 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: zsasz at March 18, 2013 06:19 PM (MMC8r)
Remember Huckabee in 2008 and Santorum in 2012 - yeah thanks a lot Iowa caucus.
Posted by Maetenloch
Thanks goodness we dodged that bullet and eventually the primaries gave us Mccain and Romney.
Whew!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 06:20 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 18, 2013 06:20 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: no good deed at March 18, 2013 06:20 PM (oB7O2)
Posted by: ette at March 18, 2013 10:18 PM (nqBYe)
Thanks, darlin' . . . I had my first real laugh of the day when I misread that as "as long as my penises hold out." Oops, it just made me laugh again.
Posted by: Peaches at March 18, 2013 06:20 PM (AJM+z)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 18, 2013 06:21 PM (EWKEr)
Thanks, chemjeff. It's snowing here yet again so I needed a cute kitteh to cheer me up. Was going to rant about the snow but it's a minor nuisance compared to Peaches' concerns (which I share).
I just hope the vegan gummint thugs don't take away my kittehs' food-- you can't make kittehs into vegetarians without giving them a serious case of malnutrition.
Posted by: Basement Cat at March 18, 2013 06:21 PM (QWjP1)
After recovery, some of the weapons found were cataloged as the only surviving of their kind - including bows. Not sure if cross or long
Longbows. Great, big, yew longbows over six and a half feet long.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 18, 2013 06:21 PM (/ZHx6)
But the real money is in international adoption, which would not be so prevalent without one-child. The "fee" they require of families to buy the freedom of a child is something like $5000, on top of all other expenses, paid in cash in new, uncirculated bills. God's truth.
Posted by: Rule #2 at March 18, 2013 06:22 PM (CypDC)
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2013 06:22 PM (3M8g3)
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 18, 2013 06:23 PM (U+2kL)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 18, 2013 06:23 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: zsasz at March 18, 2013 06:23 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2013 06:23 PM (64rcm)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 06:23 PM (TvO05)
Posted by: JDP at March 18, 2013 06:25 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 18, 2013 06:26 PM (lr3d7)
'sup jackwagons. I'm late to the game. How's it hangin?
Posted by: Infidel at March 18, 2013 06:26 PM (gqEUi)
Whew!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 10:20 PM (kdS6q)
McCain and Romney may have lost but they lost by 45.7%/52.9% and 47.2%/51.1% respectively.
Please walk me through me how Huckabee and Santorum would have done better. And yes please show your work.
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 18, 2013 06:26 PM (pAlYe)
Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future is a legendary show, featuring a ton of scripts by J. Michael Straczynski years before Babylon 5. Now there's a plan to bring Captain Power back as Phoenix Rising,
Creator Gary Goddard's production company is pitching a new version of Captain Power called Phoenix Rising, with a pilot script already written by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens. Unlike the kid-oriented 30-minute show from the 1980s, this would be a darker, more grown-up show featuring 60-minute episodes. A ton of concept art has already been created, and the show has been shopped around to some non-U.S. networks, one of which is seriously considering picking the show up.
Io9
Huzzah!
And Pilot...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 06:27 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 18, 2013 06:27 PM (DlaLh)
It was cool picking up some recipes in one of the threads last night.
Posted by: CJ in atx at March 18, 2013 06:27 PM (U/LXS)
Pretty sure the Mary Rose was longbows. At least the only surviving Welsh longbows.
I am not aware of any Welsh bows still in existence, and the earliest longbows come from Scandinavia (Nydam Bog, Denmark, c. 400, and some Viking sites). I think it very unlikely that the Welsh actually used longbows - the only evidence seems to be that a 12th cen. Norman writer mentions their use of strong elm bows without describing them, and some stuff I have read recently by those who actually make bows indicates that elm is not really suitable for a longbow design (longbows not are just long, they are have a particular deep-and-narrow cross-section).
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 18, 2013 06:27 PM (/ZHx6)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 18, 2013 06:27 PM (Jcd0S)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2013 06:28 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 18, 2013 06:28 PM (Jcd0S)
Posted by: Trump at March 18, 2013 06:28 PM (F8Lnm)
Posted by: gp at March 18, 2013 06:29 PM (mk9aG)
So I'm thinking of applying for food stamps but feel too much shame.
I don't know whether that is good or bad.
Posted by: PJ at March 18, 2013 06:29 PM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at March 18, 2013 06:29 PM (wbeNt)
Posted by: zsasz at March 18, 2013 10:23 PM (MMC8r)
That's exactly what they want.
I am no conspiracy loon, but rampant inflation, awful unemployment and other assorted third-world joys will allow the administration to do pretty much whatever they want.
It's a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 18, 2013 06:30 PM (3Mkrp)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2013 06:30 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: Woopie Goldberg at March 18, 2013 06:30 PM (UOjzE)
Please walk me through me how Huckabee and Santorum would have done better. And yes please show your work.
Posted by: Mætenloch
Couldn't have done worse, obviously. 270 or go home.
Huck probably could have managed not to lose freakin' Indiana, while Santorum might have pulled out Pennsylvania.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 06:31 PM (kdS6q)
Always next in line with the GOP.
Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at March 18, 2013 06:31 PM (t4wKZ)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 18, 2013 06:31 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 06:32 PM (TvO05)
When did Warren teach at U.C. Berkeley?
Are you sure about this?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 18, 2013 06:32 PM (3Mkrp)
Posted by: Piercello at March 18, 2013 06:32 PM (E/6f0)
I told my kittehs that they'd better watch out-- the State of CT is about to confiscate their stash of dead mice.
Posted by: Basement Cat at March 18, 2013 06:33 PM (QWjP1)
Posted by: Herbert (whAts a hymen again?) at March 18, 2013 06:33 PM (Aif/5)
Huck probably could have managed not to lose freakin' Indiana, while Santorum might have pulled out Pennsylvania.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 10:31 PM (kdS6q)
Santorum lost PA in the GOP primary and barely even beat Ron Paul.
Consider me unpersuaded.
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 18, 2013 06:33 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Jake in ID at March 18, 2013 06:33 PM (zzeVM)
One-income families -- are they getting divorced so the unemployed former spouse can start getting free stuff?
What a world to lead me to even think this.
Posted by: Die Trying at March 18, 2013 06:33 PM (w7J/R)
***
National socialism actually.
Obama will leave the trappings of the free market in place, he'll just subvert them all to the state - like the European countries during WWII.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 10:04 PM (zPVBH)
Definitely National Socialism. Obama is not a communist in practice. Most democrats, him included (along with progressive republicans), are fascists. Which are kind of like communists only they keep some semblance of business still around. They create "public-private" partnerships where the government props up the business and issues commands. Fascism was always popular here in America, look at Woodrow Wilson and the early progressives. They loved them some Mussolini!
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 06:34 PM (M1gmo)
It's snowing here. Weather people say between 10-12" by Tuesday afternoon, with maybe an extra 1-3Tuesday nite.
Supposed to be heavy and wet, too.
Yay.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2013 06:34 PM (SAMxH)
I told my kittehs that they'd better watch out-- the State of CT is about to confiscate their stash of dead mice.
I laughed out loud. Poor kittehs.
Posted by: Infidel at March 18, 2013 06:34 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: zsasz at March 18, 2013 06:34 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2013 06:35 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 06:35 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 18, 2013 06:36 PM (EWKEr)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 18, 2013 06:36 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Jake in ID at March 18, 2013 06:37 PM (zzeVM)
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 18, 2013 06:37 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 18, 2013 06:37 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at March 18, 2013 06:37 PM (jOPzC)
Posted by: Tmitsss at March 18, 2013 06:37 PM (ehOXa)
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2013 06:38 PM (64rcm)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 18, 2013 06:38 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 18, 2013 06:38 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 18, 2013 06:38 PM (Jcd0S)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 18, 2013 06:39 PM (ERh5p)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at March 18, 2013 06:39 PM (wbeNt)
That is how the illegal Mexicans do it in California. They do not get married in the first place. The wife keeps cranking out free kids and getting all the bennies and the "husband" works for cash. They live good. They "own" their own homes. They pay for very little besides the booze and the minivans. It's a little discouraging to those of us who are paying the freight.
Posted by: Peaches at March 18, 2013 06:39 PM (AJM+z)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 18, 2013 06:40 PM (ERh5p)
More DOOM in the balance: SCOTUS deciding whether Arizona voters can be required to show proof of citizenship.
Federal form just requires you to sign a line saying you are a citizen. Scalia noted that anyone willing to violate voter laws would be willing to commit perjury.
Posted by: Die Trying at March 18, 2013 06:40 PM (w7J/R)
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 18, 2013 06:41 PM (0SBAn)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at March 18, 2013 06:42 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 18, 2013 06:42 PM (hO8IJ)
I promise also to open Senate investigations into why working families are paying $22 for a loaf of bread
Posted by: Lizzie Jack Warren at March 18, 2013 06:42 PM (mCvL4)
Many FinCons left the GOP after Bush - see all the Bruce Bartlett types.
Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at March 18, 2013 06:42 PM (t4wKZ)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at March 18, 2013 06:43 PM (wbeNt)
So the GOP should ENACT PRECISELY THAT. And do it immediately. Twenty-two an hour mandatory federal minimum wage. Not a penny less.
For the next two years, more or less. Sunsetting just as the new Congress comes in in January of 2015, after the midterm elections.
The GOP should be saying in unison very clearly as they enact it, "We think this is a bad, bad, bad, bad idea. It's going to kill ten million jobs. It'll guarantee a new recession. But, liberals like Liz Warren say this is what they want, and America voted for liberals like Liz Warren, so we are arranging for America to get a two-year taste of how well these liberal ideas work."
Dare Obama to veto the fucker. And explain why he is having to do so.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 18, 2013 06:43 PM (gqT4g)
I wonder if Slow Joe will line up for communion at the Papal Mass and then ...
"I came all this way and stood in line, why don't I get a cookie!"
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 06:44 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 18, 2013 06:44 PM (ERh5p)
Posted by: zsasz at March 18, 2013 06:44 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Outlaw Gunsmith at March 18, 2013 06:44 PM (jvdNh)
All members of the Moron Horde are hoarders by definition (bad puns allowed on this smart military blog).
Posted by: Basement Cat at March 18, 2013 06:44 PM (QWjP1)
I find now I am more in the Rand Paul or Ted Cruz camp, and am not willing to compromise on anything.
So Obama has accomplished something, I guess.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 18, 2013 06:45 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2013 06:45 PM (64rcm)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2013 10:35 PM (NEIxp)
Yep. Way too much of that and we all know someone on the short end.
Posted by: Die Trying at March 18, 2013 06:45 PM (w7J/R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 18, 2013 06:45 PM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Infidel at March 18, 2013 06:45 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2013 06:45 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 18, 2013 06:45 PM (JMmQ9)
I wonder if Slow Joe will line up for communion at the Papal Mass and then ...
"I came all this way and stood in line, why don't I get a cookie!"
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 10:44 PM (mCvL4)
--Thank you Pope Frank, thank you!
Posted by: logprof at March 18, 2013 06:46 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: Numbers? WTF?!? at March 18, 2013 06:46 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 18, 2013 06:46 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Dr Who at March 18, 2013 06:47 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 18, 2013 06:48 PM (Jcd0S)
Fetal heart custody reminded me of the old joke:
I have the heart of a small boy....
I keep it in a jar in my office.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 18, 2013 06:48 PM (IY7Ir)
Oh, man, I got one a couple of weeks ago. I was nice but I let the poor girl know that they don't see one thin dime of my money until they get their shit together. Which is not looking like it will happen in my lifetime, more's the pity.
Posted by: Peaches at March 18, 2013 06:48 PM (AJM+z)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 18, 2013 06:48 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2013 06:48 PM (sdi6R)
I guess it would be expecting too much for businesses to say, "Eff you and the horse you rode in on and eff your reporting requirements, too!" Widespread civil disobedience, IOW...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 18, 2013 10:48 PM (Jcd0S)
--Seriously. It's not quite yet time to go Patrick Henry or Samuel Adams, but it's long past time to go Rosa Parks.
Posted by: logprof at March 18, 2013 06:49 PM (+iA5G)
***
Both Romney and McCain lost because they refused to fight Obama and campaigned as Obama-lite.
Huckabee would have done the same...Santorum would have fought.
Further, the "Occupy" groundwork that had been placed since 2010 to use against Romney would have been useless against Santorum.
Santorum might have still lost in 2012, but at worst it would have been closer.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 06:49 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Jake in ID at March 18, 2013 06:49 PM (zzeVM)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 18, 2013 06:50 PM (EWKEr)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 18, 2013 06:50 PM (JQuNB)
FIFY
Posted by: The Fixer at March 18, 2013 06:50 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Elizabeth "Stares Vacantly At Things" Warren at March 18, 2013 06:51 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 18, 2013 06:51 PM (RTZ9e)
Ivy League grads, all of them.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 18, 2013 06:51 PM (Fz2C7)
you and the horse you rode in on and eff your reporting requirements,
too!" Widespread civil disobedience, IOW...
***
Ever notice that the government is far more vindictive against citizens that disobey its funding mechanisms? That there are special courts for tax violations? That if you are an otherwise law abiding citizen one felony can destroy your life?
The government knows it has to keep us grasshoppers in line so they can steal the money to pay for the ants.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 06:51 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 18, 2013 06:51 PM (Jcd0S)
I find now I am more in the Rand Paul or Ted Cruz camp, and am not willing to compromise on anything.
So Obama has accomplished something, I guess.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 18, 2013 10:45 PM (GoIUi)0
uhm hmm m u call it 'trying to use the emergency brakes'
Posted by: ette at March 18, 2013 06:51 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Jake in ID at March 18, 2013 10:37 PM (zzeVM)
No. Don't do the newsletter thingy. Just call it like I see it.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 06:52 PM (M1gmo)
Already on the books, it's up to the bishops to enforce it. And sadly even when it comes to a unanimous ruling by 208 bishops in the USA I expect to see "Catholic" democrats take communion from female chaplains in albs.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 18, 2013 10:50 PM (EWKEr)
--I don't thin kbd was referring to the USA, but just during the visit for the installation at the Vatican. That alone is a huge start.
Posted by: logprof at March 18, 2013 06:52 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: Jenny hates her phone at March 18, 2013 06:52 PM (kKKEV)
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2013 10:50 PM (64rcm)
--Unfortunately, it looks as if it has spawned.
Posted by: logprof at March 18, 2013 06:52 PM (+iA5G)
I went to college as a 'non-trad' it was horrible. The English Comp final I had to take was watching 'One flew over the cookoos nest" in class and writing a report. Fuck that prof was an idiot. I was in my 30's and this was in the '90's. Can't imagine what it's like nowl
Posted by: Infidel at March 18, 2013 06:53 PM (gqEUi)
Because they explicitly chose a sheltered work environment with tenure and a ready-made collection of naive people over whom they have power, and whom they can patronize with impunity?
What do I win?
Posted by: Splunge at March 18, 2013 06:53 PM (bKA83)
BTW - $22 an hour minimum wage = $46k per year.
Which is more personal income than about 70% of workers.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2013 06:54 PM (kdS6q)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OS17lqHiE Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2013 10:48 PM
If that gets stuck in my head, there will be serious reprisals
That certain song you hear at Disneyland is available on Youtube too, you know
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 06:54 PM (mCvL4)
The government knows it has to keep us ants in line so they can steal the money to pay for the grasshoppers.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 06:54 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 18, 2013 06:54 PM (Fz2C7)
What investigators found was a chilling spreadsheet 7 feet long and 4 feet wide that required a special printer, a document that contained Lanza's obsessive, extensive research - in nine-point font - about mass murders of the past, and even attempted murders.
If I wanted to commit a henious act, I'd watch a lot of t.v. During my week-long exile from the world via influenza, I watched all the CSI show, Criminal Minds, etc, etc for hours each day. Not that I give any credence to the hysteria that t.v. causes violence, BUT one could sure learn a lot from the peace-loving Hollywood hypocrites.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 18, 2013 06:54 PM (DoZD+)
Someone hooked raykon's nuts up to a car battery? I didn't think he had the money for a
Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2013 06:54 PM (ORGYc)
Posted by: Prez'nit O'Flynn at March 18, 2013 10:53 PM (vbh31)
Anyone else feel a tickle fight coming on?
Posted by: Eric Massa (D) at March 18, 2013 06:55 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 18, 2013 06:55 PM (Jcd0S)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 18, 2013 06:55 PM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 06:55 PM (RL7U1)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 18, 2013 06:56 PM (JMmQ9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OS17lqHiE Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2013 10:48 PM
99 Bottles of valu-rite on the wall....
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 06:56 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Moki at March 18, 2013 06:57 PM (SdetR)
Republican, always willing to compromise and move things forward by
increment.
***
Supporting the Republican establishment has gotten us nowhere since the mid-90s even when we managed to give the bastards control over every elected branch.
I gave up on them after watching the McCain campaign sell Palin down the river for having the guts to take on President Precedent.
Now I only give money/time to through conservatives.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 06:57 PM (zPVBH)
Ban spreadsheets.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at March 18, 2013 06:58 PM (hO8IJ)
/my other physicist joke rewrite
Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2013 06:58 PM (ORGYc)
Posted by: zsasz at March 18, 2013 06:58 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: SwampFox at March 18, 2013 06:58 PM (RTfgg)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at March 18, 2013 06:58 PM (79AXR)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 18, 2013 06:59 PM (GEICT)
Discussed the $22 minimum wage with my 20 year old son. The first thing he said was if the minimum wage was that high, employers would either lay off people, not hire anyone new, close their doors or all of he above. That would lead to higher demands on welfare services by the newly unemployed, with significantly lower tax revenues for the govt fom all the jobless workers and defunct businesses ( his word). If my 20 year old who as only had AP macro economics can understand this, how come fauxcohontas , with her wicked smarts, not understand???
Posted by: Moki at March 18, 2013 10:57 PM (SdetR)
Since no one is required to take economics and Math™
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 06:59 PM (M1gmo)
***
Hmm, I remember reading her columns somewhere in the 90s. She seemed to disappear near the end of the Clinton years though.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 06:59 PM (zPVBH)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OS17lqHiE Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2013 10:48 PM
Three cheers for the co-blogger, the coblogger, the coblogger
Three cheers for the co-blogger, the best co-blogger around
He steps on the troll and his comments are droll ...
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 06:59 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 18, 2013 10:54 PM (Fz2C7)
Say what???
Posted by: Peaches at March 18, 2013 06:59 PM (AJM+z)
Don't say "what about $100 an hour, libs?"
They'll do it.
In the past, I have used the "$20 an hour" thing to throw libs off - you know, flanking them from the left and watching their little empty heads implode.
That shit doesn't work for long. Satire never does last around leftists. They have no sense of the absurd, so when you propose absurd-ass things, after awhile they take them with dead seriousness.
Posted by: NotAMoose at March 18, 2013 07:00 PM (ZZg4j)
Posted by: Jenny hates assault spreadsheets at March 18, 2013 07:00 PM (kKKEV)
Anyone here know how to adjust elevation on a Springfield XD? Just got back from the range, shoots consistently 2-4" low at 21 feet. Not the tack-driver the 1911 is.
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 10:55 PM (RL7U1)
Aim 2-4" high at 21'. There.
But seriously, that's a lot at 21 feet. Be interesting to know distance rear-to-front sight..., could calculate change necessary.
Posted by: Vicar of Wakeful at March 18, 2013 07:00 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2013 07:00 PM (ORGYc)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2013 07:01 PM (NEIxp)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 18, 2013 07:01 PM (GEICT)
Republican, always willing to compromise and move things forward by
increment.
***
Supporting the Republican establishment has gotten us nowhere since the mid-90s even when we managed to give the bastards control over every elected branch.
I gave up on them after watching the McCain campaign sell Palin down the river for having the guts to take on President Precedent.
Now I only give money/time to through conservatives.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 10:57 PM (zPVBH)
Don't help the RNC, since all we get is backstabbing Boehner and his merry little band of aisle crossing goons.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 07:02 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 18, 2013 07:02 PM (n8LUb)
Posted by: Jake in ID at March 18, 2013 07:02 PM (zzeVM)
Posted by: Californio at March 18, 2013 07:02 PM (2eIwi)
Posted by: Huusker at March 18, 2013 07:03 PM (PaKLC)
Posted by: Numbers? WTF?!? at March 18, 2013 07:03 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: zsasz at March 18, 2013 07:03 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Peaches at March 18, 2013 10:59 PM (AJM+z)"
Didn't you see that? The RNC is going to spend ten mil on outreach programs to Hispanics, Asians and Blacks. That's ten million for this year alone.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 18, 2013 07:04 PM (Fz2C7)
Yeah funny..., I laughed when Obama entered the primaries...., turned out they were serious. The joke was on me..., not so funny anymore.
Posted by: Vicar of Wakeful at March 18, 2013 07:04 PM (aDwsi)
Say what???
RNC spent that much for a survey of what they did wrong last election. 100 page report. Fuck him and the RNC.
I gave 'em an ear full tonight.
Posted by: Infidel at March 18, 2013 07:04 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 18, 2013 07:05 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 18, 2013 11:01 PM (GEICT)
Isn't that what Mitt's campaign promised us all it was doing?
Why is it that we keep our failures around? Why is Boehner still around having done NOTHING to deserve the speakership or why Preibus is still in charge or why McConnell is still minority leader???
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 07:06 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 18, 2013 11:04 PM (Fz2C7)
Oh, bless their hearts (not fuckin' really). Best way for the RNC to spend 10 mil would be on ammo. And sharp-shooters. We are so doomed.
Posted by: Peaches at March 18, 2013 07:06 PM (AJM+z)
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2013 07:06 PM (64rcm)
If they were analyzing how to fix the Red Sox, they'd conclude;
"We have to find a way to make Yankee fans love us"
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 07:06 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: ette at March 18, 2013 07:07 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Infidel at March 18, 2013 07:07 PM (gqEUi)
I am on my last nerve with them. So adios.
Looking at how much I gave them and Romney while examining my bank statements for taxes really concentrated my attention.
Only giving to individual candidates now. And only after I have done a thorough investigation.
Good night, everyone!
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 18, 2013 07:07 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Moki at March 18, 2013 07:08 PM (SdetR)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 07:09 PM (Vk2pI)
I got a solicitation in the mail from them today. It goes back to them tomorrow with a nastygram written on the donor form. I told them to thank McCain and Graham.
Posted by: Country Singer at March 18, 2013 07:09 PM (CgcOa)
That hoarders tax lady just screws up CT, but MA left us all affected by Fauxcahauntus. There are just so many answers to her question, it boggles the mind that none of her aides came up with even one.
Here's another one: The productivity increases just didn't come from only minimum wage workers dumbass.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 18, 2013 07:09 PM (IY7Ir)
Posted by: sans_sheriff at March 18, 2013 07:09 PM (HgwiM)
I'm sure the story behind that story won't get told
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 07:09 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 07:10 PM (RL7U1)
Does a janitor at Harvard make $22 per hour? Why not?
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 07:11 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 18, 2013 07:11 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 18, 2013 11:04 PM (Fz2C7)
I don't disagree with the outreach. It is better than spending 33 million on consulting firms that Mitt's campaign did last year.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 07:11 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Jake in ID at March 18, 2013 07:11 PM (zzeVM)
http://tinyurl.com/d45ze3e
'Arry Champion, 'is nyme was.
Posted by: comatus at March 18, 2013 07:12 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 18, 2013 07:13 PM (DoZD+)
An omen?
Well, here I go for a few of them, then a liberal break.
Posted by: logprof at March 18, 2013 07:13 PM (+iA5G)
Posted by: Numbers? WTF?!? at March 18, 2013 07:13 PM (1V6Pv)
***
They re-elected a house member whose wife is a mafioso.
Because I'm sure that he had no idea. Oh, and Republicans have cooties.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 07:14 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 07:14 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Andrew at March 18, 2013 07:14 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: Dante at March 18, 2013 07:14 PM (0m62M)
Posted by: Mitt Romney's consultants at March 18, 2013 07:16 PM (Vk2pI)
So with 200 extra Watts, are you doing a Tool Time 'Moar Power!!!!' yell?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 18, 2013 07:16 PM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 18, 2013 10:38 PM (GoIUi)
Class, grass or ass..........which one (or more) did she not contribute to earn her pay????
Posted by: NC Ref at March 18, 2013 07:16 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Leviathan at March 18, 2013 07:16 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 07:16 PM (RL7U1)
mil on outreach programs to Hispanics, Asians and Blacks. That's ten
million for this year alone.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 18, 2013 11:04 PM (Fz2C7)
I don't disagree with the outreach. It is better than spending 33 million on consulting firms that Mitt's campaign did last year.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 11:11 PM (M1gmo)
Who do you think is going to get all that outreach money?
Posted by: Mitt Romney's consultants at March 18, 2013 11:16 PM (Vk2pI)
Yeah I know. I'm like a battered housewife. Maybe they've CHANGED??!!
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 07:18 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 07:18 PM (Vk2pI)
Wait, what?!?!
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 18, 2013 07:19 PM (NzBQO)
Posted by: That Guy Who Always Says It's The Power Supply[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 07:20 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 18, 2013 07:20 PM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 07:21 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 07:22 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 11:11 PM (M1gmo)"
What are they going to do, print up pamphlets and pay people to knock on doors? It seem like everyone involved in politics has the same answer for everything. Got a problem? Throw money at it. I'm sure they don't have the first fucking clue what they're going to do with that ten million or what kind of results they're looking for, but ten million ought to do the trick.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 18, 2013 07:22 PM (Fz2C7)
If, as I expect, benefits and regulatory compliance have gone up dramatically, there is where your imagined salaries have gone.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 07:23 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Jake in ID at March 18, 2013 07:24 PM (zzeVM)
Posted by: My God, It's Full of Hats at March 18, 2013 07:24 PM (Vk2pI)
All that can be done is to shim it, not real sure I'd do that, though.
Is the pistol new? If so contact the mfg and talk to them.
That'd be my course of action.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2013 07:25 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: thunderb at March 18, 2013 07:25 PM (Dnbau)
If your job leverages computers, you are probably much more efficient then your grandfather was in 1960.
But what if you are serving coffee or slinging burgers?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 07:26 PM (zPVBH)
One thing I've noticed about consultants in the business world: they never report to the client that too much money is being wasted on consultancy. Appears to work the same way in the political world.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 18, 2013 07:26 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 07:27 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 18, 2013 07:27 PM (RTZ9e)
Posted by: Rosie the Robot at March 18, 2013 07:28 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 07:29 PM (RL7U1)
Posted by: Akin's Magical Uterus at March 18, 2013 07:30 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 07:30 PM (bxiXv)
What are they going to do, print up pamphlets and pay people to knock on doors? It seem like everyone involved in politics has the same answer for everything. Got a problem? Throw money at it. I'm sure they don't have the first fucking clue what they're going to do with that ten million or what kind of results they're looking for, but ten million ought to do the trick.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 18, 2013 11:22 PM (Fz2C7)
It is better than paying consultants though. At least they are trying. Paul Ryan wanted to go to the minority neighborhoods and try to persuade them. Mitt and his merry band of consultants said no.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 07:30 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Jake in ID at March 18, 2013 07:31 PM (zzeVM)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 18, 2013 07:31 PM (NzBQO)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 07:31 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 18, 2013 07:31 PM (pLvWv)
Posted by: toby928© presents at March 18, 2013 07:32 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 07:32 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: otho at March 18, 2013 07:33 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: joncelli at March 18, 2013 07:34 PM (CWlPF)
Posted by: Robert at March 18, 2013 07:34 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 18, 2013 07:34 PM (pLvWv)
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 07:35 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: RWC at March 18, 2013 07:35 PM (sqp6o)
Busted out my old Super Nintendo tonight. Fond memories. Played some Super Mario World. Keep your Mass Effects and Modern Warfares, gaming never got better than the little dago plumber riding the green dinosaur.
Posted by: Robert at March 18, 2013 11:34 PM (LUnTP).
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 11:35 PM (M1gmo)
In response to Robert!!
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 07:35 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Jake in ID at March 18, 2013 07:35 PM (zzeVM)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 18, 2013 07:36 PM (ERh5p)
When the news came out about the shooting, I said, "Shit. I know the drill by now."
The drill being: a young loner goes on a murder-suicide spree. People close to the family report unofficially that the kid was marinated up to the eyeballs on prescription psych meds. Except there's never any official report to that effect, and no broader public awareness, because of the goddamned medical privacy laws. No conclusions are able to be drawn about overreliance on these drugs in young men, or the risks thereto. This is an endlessly repeating pattern.
It would be good to amend those laws to have them indicate that if someone commits certain categories of crime, their right to medical privacy is immediately waived, and there will be a full records dump to the public about what drugs, legal and illegal, they happened to be on.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 18, 2013 07:36 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Goatweed at March 18, 2013 07:37 PM (8HrdX)
Posted by: madamex at March 18, 2013 07:37 PM (+kvQd)
That's the price of keeping your job ... and not having it go to India, China or Vietnam.
Posted by: Orgainizing For Access at March 18, 2013 07:38 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 07:38 PM (bxiXv)
When the news came out about the shooting, I said, "Shit. I know the drill by now."
The drill being: a young loner goes on a murder-suicide spree. People close to the family report unofficially that the kid was marinated up to the eyeballs on prescription psych meds. Except there's never any official report to that effect, and no broader public awareness, because of the goddamned medical privacy laws. No conclusions are able to be drawn about overreliance on these drugs in young men, or the risks thereto. This is an endlessly repeating pattern.
It would be good to amend those laws to have them indicate that if someone commits certain categories of crime, their right to medical privacy is immediately waived, and there will be a full records dump to the public about what drugs, legal and illegal, they happened to be on.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 18, 2013 11:36 PM (gqT4g)
Completely agree. HIPPA and other laws are such crap when it comes to this.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 07:38 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 18, 2013 07:39 PM (NzBQO)
Posted by: RWC at March 18, 2013 07:39 PM (sqp6o)
Posted by: Robert at March 18, 2013 07:40 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 07:40 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: toby928© presents at March 18, 2013 07:40 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: RWC at March 18, 2013 07:42 PM (sqp6o)
Posted by: The Chemical Hat at March 18, 2013 07:43 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 07:43 PM (RL7U1)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 18, 2013 07:44 PM (b0/Zr)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 18, 2013 07:44 PM (ERh5p)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 18, 2013 07:44 PM (n8LUb)
And Senator Warren is the senior Senator from MA, lest we forget.
I guess she is okay with consumers paying about $22 for a couple of ice cream cones (with coupon). Scrunt.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 18, 2013 07:44 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Robert at March 18, 2013 07:46 PM (LUnTP)
I guess she is okay with consumers paying about $22 for a couple of ice cream cones (with coupon). Scrunt.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 18, 2013 11:44 PM (BAS5M)
Can't SMOD hit her first?
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 07:46 PM (M1gmo)
You could buy a 20MHz PC for $9000.
Today you can buy a 3400MHz laptop for under $600
Posted by: Orgainizing For Access at March 18, 2013 07:46 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 07:47 PM (RL7U1)
Posted by: RWC at March 18, 2013 07:48 PM (sqp6o)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 18, 2013 07:48 PM (b0/Zr)
You could buy a 20MHz PC for $9000.
Today you can buy a 3400MHz laptop for under $600
Who gets the other $8400 ?
Posted by: Orgainizing For Access at March 18, 2013 07:48 PM (e8kgV)
That is your opinion, anchor clanker.
Carried that 1911 since forever and it's a tackdriver.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2013 07:49 PM (SAMxH)
Today you can buy a 3400MHz laptop for under $600"
See Moore's Law.
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2013 07:51 PM (3M8g3)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 18, 2013 07:51 PM (b0/Zr)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 18, 2013 07:53 PM (b0/Zr)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 07:53 PM (bxiXv)
Also, per KosKiddies, Warren absolutely SCHOOLED a business owner on the minimum wage maths. SCHOOLED! they said.
buncha fucknuts
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 18, 2013 07:54 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 18, 2013 07:54 PM (9Bj8R)
Santorum would have been Todd Akin on bath salts.
***
The media got 100% of what they needed when Romney went into hiding on abortion after Akin.
Much like with ORomneycare, because he'd flipflopped so much, it was an issue he couldn't win on no matter what he did...which is why the media pushed it.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 07:54 PM (zPVBH)
and so another lesson in synonyms comes my way.
Posted by: jc at March 18, 2013 07:55 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 18, 2013 07:57 PM (b0/Zr)
Glocks rock. Just one time compressing the main spring in a 1911 for cleaning or assembly may be enough to convince you of this salient fact. Shooting, yes, love the 1911 design. Break down and cleaning, give me the Glock any time. Can do in one tenth of the time.
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2013 07:58 PM (3M8g3)
Posted by: RWC at March 18, 2013 11:45 PM (sqp6o)
===
He was*
* you are probably confused on this because the stupid fuck hasn't learned a thing since then.
Posted by: jc at March 18, 2013 07:58 PM (PlzOe)
This is like watching a monkey try to fuck a football.
Posted by: Methos at March 18, 2013 07:58 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Baldy at March 18, 2013 07:59 PM (opS9C)
Shoot what fits ya, I say. Shot a lot of iron, but only 1 really works for me.
Time for the old folk, be moving snow tomorrow.
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 18, 2013 08:00 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 08:00 PM (RL7U1)
I would kind of like to see them raise the minimum raise to $100/hr just to watch the epic catastrophe.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 18, 2013 08:02 PM (IY7Ir)
Posted by: RWC at March 18, 2013 08:02 PM (sqp6o)
buncha fucknuts Posted by: Count de Monet at March 18, 2013 11:54 PM
Know how Kos got his start? Him and his buddy Jerome Armstrong trolled the Yahoo comments in the finance section to pump and dump stocks
The SEC went after Armstrong, he plea bargained on the condition he never trades stocks again
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 08:02 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: CAC at March 18, 2013 08:04 PM (kk+Bm)
Posted by: CAC at March 18, 2013 08:05 PM (kk+Bm)
The hackerÂ’s e-mails went to hundreds of recipients, though the distribution lists were dotted with addresses for aides to Senate and House members who are no longer in office. But many of the addresses to which the Blumenthal memos were sent are good (though it is unclear whether karl@rove.com is a solid address for the Republican mastermind).
Most of the e-mail recipients were sent four separate memos that were e-mailed to Clinton by Blumenthal during the past five months. Each memo dealt with assorted developments in Libya, including the September 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi. One memo marked “Confidential” was sent to Clinton on September 12.
As TSG reported lasy week, after BlumenthalÂ’s e-mail account was compromised, the hacker searched it for e-mails sent to Clinton, and further sorted the mail to segregate any attachment--like Word files--that were included in BlumenthalÂ’s correspondence to Clinton. Many of these pilfered documents were memos to Clinton on foreign policy and intelligence matters.
Posted by: thunderb at March 18, 2013 08:05 PM (Dnbau)
XD sights are dove tailed, you drive them out with a punch. They are in TIGHT compared to some models. Dinged one of mine adjusting windage, but I got it to shoot, not look at.
Pretty sure the site picture is a circle on a circle, or punkin on a post for the xd and most comperable guns. The only thing I can suggest is try different ammo, sometimes that can shift poi a bunch, especially on a 45. As an earlier poster said, it might be simpler to trade. If you like the plastic, glock and the M&Ps are nice. Lots of sizes and calibers. If it fits you, and you like it, thats the important thing.
Posted by: simon jester at March 18, 2013 08:06 PM (EhSF0)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 18, 2013 08:06 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: RWC at March 18, 2013 08:07 PM (sqp6o)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 18, 2013 08:07 PM (ERh5p)
Santorum would have been Todd Akin on bath salts.
***
The media got 100% of what they needed when Romney went into hiding on abortion after Akin.
Much like with ORomneycare, because he'd flipflopped so much, it was an issue he couldn't win on no matter what he did...which is why the media pushed it.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2013 11:54 PM (zPVBH)
He was our side's John Kerry.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 08:07 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 08:08 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 18, 2013 11:31 PM (pLvWv)
===
Well, if they aren't are the start, they will be by the end.
Posted by: jc at March 18, 2013 08:10 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: CAC at March 18, 2013 08:10 PM (kk+Bm)
Mittens could have done immediate forceful damage control. Flown to Missouri and made a highly public show of urging Akin to get out of the race.
Saying something like, "I am and continue to be strongly pro-life. But Todd Akin's comments have nothing to do with being pro-life. His comments were both offensive and ignorant, and they cast the entire pro-life movement in a bad light. One that it does not deserve."
Mitt was too scared of giving offense to socons with such a move. He, as a northeastern Rockefeller Republican, has little or no understanding of the breed. Thinks that they're unlettered and crazy and unpredictable. All Akins all the time. To a cool managerial rationalist, that's intimidating.
I think there are many more sensible socons than Mitt thought there were. Many of them (a) recognized that Akin was talking crazy nonsense about magic rape sperm detectors, and (b) also realistically assessed the huge political damage Akin was causing. And would have backed Mitt even if Mitt confronted Akin.
Instead, Mitt did and said nothing, which let the media easily tar him with the same brush as Akin: creepy misogynist caveman. Distancing himself at once would have made that more difficult for them. Perhaps making it impossible.
Idle speculation at this point. We'll never know now!
Posted by: torquewrench at March 18, 2013 08:10 PM (gqT4g)
Railroad Pageant: 1939- http://bit.ly/15kcEK3 : "May 27, 1939. 'New York World's Fair, railroad pageant. Final curtain, locomotives.' Large-format negative by Samuel H. Gottscho."
Whorls and Ridges: 1925- http://bit.ly/117VK0D : "Washington, D.C., 1925. 'Justice Department, Nat'l. Bureau of Identification.' Filing fingerprints at the forerunner of today's FBI."
Whistler's Brother: 1936- http://www.shorpy.com/node/14859 : "1936. High Point, North Carolina. 'Housing. Bedroom in company-owned home of workers in Highland Cotton Mills. This is one of the best there.' Who are the glamor girls on the wall? Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine."
Capital Service: 1940- http://bit.ly/YDlcI7 : "June 1940. Washington, D.C. 'Attendant at truck service station on U.S. 1 (New York Avenue).' 35mm nitrate negative by Jack Delano."
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 18, 2013 08:10 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: angel with a sword at March 18, 2013 08:11 PM (3RiPs)
Posted by: Psychedelicat at March 18, 2013 08:11 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: a mindful webwurlitzer at March 18, 2013 08:13 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: JDP at March 18, 2013 08:13 PM (8HhF2)
But a scholastic answer to her question is in order ... not from me. Wages are up, and jeans and a good watch and a cell phone and internet are cheaper than ever. Quality of life is higher than ever for US in general, so why is Warren bitching about rich people again?
Well, we know why ... because it is ALL about causing envy and strife.
Posted by: Illini Bill at March 18, 2013 08:13 PM (4Dp50)
Scaborough accused Ted Cruz of ignorance on SC ruling on gun control, advised him to read the Heller decision
Morning Joe ignorant that Cruz argued the Heller case and won
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 08:14 PM (mCvL4)
arghguu43wbgt234
Posted by: JDP at March 19, 2013 12:13 AM (8HhF2)
???????
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 08:15 PM (M1gmo)
"Romney calls on Akin to withdraw from Senate race"
"As I said yesterday, Todd Akin's comments were offensive and wrong and he should very seriously consider what course would be in the best interest of our country," Romney said in a statement. "Today, his fellow Missourians urged him to step aside, and I think he should accept their counsel and exit the Senate race."
http://usat.ly/10aFPjc
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 18, 2013 08:16 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: JDP at March 18, 2013 08:16 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: CAC at March 18, 2013 08:17 PM (kk+Bm)
Posted by: JDP at March 18, 2013 08:17 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: barky the precedent at March 18, 2013 08:19 PM (xAFCC)
Presented in that way, 55 percent of likely voters opted for a plan that would slash $5 trillion in government spending, provide for no additional tax revenue and balance the budget within 10 years
...
This was almost twice as many voters as opted for a proposal that would include $1 trillion in added tax revenue as well as $100 billion in infrastructure spending, and which would reduce the deficit without eradicating it.
Only 28 percent of voters preferred this option ...
However, as soon as respondents heard the words “Republican” and “Democrat,” the picture changed drastically. A plurality of voters, 35 percent, said they trust the Democrats more on budgetary issues, while 30 percent said they trust the Republicans more. A full 34 percent said they trust neither party.
No, by all means, let's keep the current set of GOP professionals. They're doing such bang up job.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 18, 2013 08:19 PM (UCv7P)
This is like watching a monkey try to fuck a football.
Posted by: Methos at March 18, 2013 11:58 PM (hO9ad)
The longer they delay opening the banks, I think this become much worse. They are keeping it in the minds of everyone there and will trigger an all out bank run when they finally do reopen.
People do not like confiscation of their savings that blatantly. Bernanke is showing everyone how to do it. PRINT TEH MONIES!!!
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 08:19 PM (M1gmo)
here is another one
http://tinyurl.com/c339mwm
Posted by: chemjeff at March 18, 2013 08:21 PM (BBWjt)
And finding like half my old shelved memory is bad.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 18, 2013 11:21 PM (bxiXv)
What kind do you need?
Posted by: cthulhu at March 18, 2013 08:21 PM (kaalw)
"You're out there Beer Baron, and I'll FIND you !!"
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 08:22 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: JDP at March 18, 2013 08:23 PM (8HhF2)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 18, 2013 08:24 PM (u0HjB)
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 08:24 PM (RL7U1)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 08:25 PM (TvO05)
Posted by: speedster1 at March 18, 2013 08:25 PM (yeM7r)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 18, 2013 08:26 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 18, 2013 08:26 PM (u0HjB)
Posted by: JDP at March 18, 2013 08:29 PM (8HhF2)
..."for their protection" of course. It would have nothing to do with floating them as long as possible and taking advantage of the situation, nothing at all.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21832594
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 08:30 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 08:30 PM (RL7U1)
So they *work*.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 08:31 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 08:31 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 08:32 PM (TvO05)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 08:32 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 18, 2013 08:33 PM (uj9iS)
And for fucks sake, he had the math witch!!!
Use the guy!!
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 19, 2013 12:26 AM (u0HjB)
I was looking at voter exit polling and Romney won every major issue by a large margin, but Obama won the "who cares about MEEEEEE!!!!" vote by a 3:1 margin. These guys are the ones who threw the election to Obama. He microtargeted them and all their little single issue masturbatory fantasies and Romney's team sat on their asses waiting for ORCA to be MAGIC and paid their consultants to tell them what they wanted to hear.
Many Americans are stupid populists and don't want to think about who to vote for and vote with their feelings or racist impulses.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 08:33 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 18, 2013 08:34 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 18, 2013 08:35 PM (ERh5p)
"Somehow I can picture Michael Bloomberg standing on the roof of his townhouse, looking out at the city, and saying to himself;
You're out there Beer Baron, and I'll FIND you !!"
Is he wearing his Snoopy outfit?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 18, 2013 08:36 PM (G6qpY)
Posted by: Steck at March 18, 2013 08:37 PM (RL7U1)
"You're out there Beer Baron, and I'll FIND you !!"
Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2013 12:22 AM (mCvL4)
Thread winner right here!
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 18, 2013 08:38 PM (NzBQO)
i mean not weird as far as electoral politics. but you could've had any veep guy do that. i know he wanted to inoculate himself against grandma-over-the-cliff stuff but beyond that, nothing
Posted by: JDP at March 19, 2013 12:29 AM (8HhF2)
You know what is really pathetic and stupid? I was looking at yahoo the other day when the Cyprus thing was just getting started and was reading all the liberals screeching about the stopping the EVIL republicans from cutting medicare and social security here and not to follow the "austerity" plans in Europe. I want to strangle these LIV dumb fucks until they get that the only cuts to medicare came from THEIR OWN DAMN PARTY.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 08:38 PM (M1gmo)
I've been retesting old drives. Got two 5gal pails full of clean scrap Aluminum from the stripped dead one so far (about 30lb total), and about 10lb worth of "dirty" Copper/Aluminum in spindle motors, and arms that aren't worth putting more effort into to clean.
Older 5.25" HDD's have an impressive amount of Aluminum in them, and some big honking magnets that are useful in the garage and for using as drywall screw finders. I got one by the drill press that cleans up globs of metal chips and shit really well.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 08:39 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: zeera at March 18, 2013 08:40 PM (Lv9bM)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 18, 2013 08:41 PM (OpRai)
Posted by: Moki "
Maybe he's worked at a job and found out how useless some employees are. My sister worked at a gas station/quickie mart for awhile. She would call me up just ranting about the idiots she had to work with. Talk to anyone who has to hire non-skilled employees.
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 19, 2013 12:35 AM (ERh5p)
My wife was a democrat until she worked at a forced union job. Straightened her out real quick.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 08:43 PM (M1gmo)
Ryan covered a wide range of issues during every campaign stop (3-4 per day, sometimes more) but the MFM largely ignored him. It was as if he no longer existed.
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 18, 2013 08:44 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 18, 2013 08:44 PM (uj9iS)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 08:44 PM (bxiXv)
It seems only fair.
Posted by: Illini Bill at March 19, 2013 12:42 AM (4Dp50)
Wealth transfers only go to the government not to the filthy plebs.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 08:44 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: NCKate at March 18, 2013 08:44 PM (OfPTF)
http://tinyurl.com/cfbojsq
"They did a stress test on the banks in Cyprus 18 months ago and said it's f##king great" and now this; "this is some f##king crooked shit." "They're off their f##king nuts mate," he explains as he asks rhetorically of the bankers getting the bailouts, "how many f##king ponies do their daughters' need?"
Posted by: kbdabear at March 18, 2013 08:44 PM (mCvL4)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 08:44 PM (Vk2pI)
http://tinyurl.com/cfbojsq
"They did a stress test on the banks in Cyprus 18 months ago and said it's f##king great" and now this; "this is some f##king crooked shit." "They're off their f##king nuts mate," he explains as he asks rhetorically of the bankers getting the bailouts, "how many f##king ponies do their daughters' need?"
Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2013 12:44 AM (mCvL4)
This is why the Republicans need to grasp the crony capitalism and corporate welfare by the nads and run with it. People are tired of big government and big corporate working together to screw everyone else.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 08:47 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 08:49 PM (TvO05)
Based on the results of the last election, I would hereby posit that you are full of crap.
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2013 08:50 PM (3M8g3)
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 18, 2013 08:51 PM (YjDyJ)
I did a stint at WMT a while ago to get something more physical. Didn't pay much, but it was good solid exercise for 8hr. I may do it again, I kinda miss the physical activity.
Quite a few of the people there have marginal value add. They're not even worth minimum wage, and fuck up in ways that cause other employees a lot more work. WMT might actually get better productivity by firing half the staff and retaining the competent ones. Without the cretins fucking you up, the retained ones would be happier, and produce the same work product.
At WMT if you can change the plug end on an extension cord where one's ground prong was snapped off, you're a fucking super genius.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 08:51 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 08:52 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Mirage at March 18, 2013 08:54 PM (phScf)
Posted by: zeera at March 18, 2013 08:54 PM (Lv9bM)
Late as always, but regarding swords. I always believed the medieval swords were super heavy and could not wrap my head around how those men could swing those 15 lbers while on horseback and in 100 lbs of armor.
I was fortunate to get in a two exclusive castle towers while in Germany. These castles were still in original family title and they were private press tours. Well, we got to put on authentic armored pieces, helms and swing two-handed and single-hand swords. I damn near did a face plant as I pulled my first sword out of its scabbard, cuz it was so incredibly Light.
Shocked and awed I was. For someone with a Masters in History, I felt very foolish that everything I thought I knew about that period, really had to be re-thunk!
Posted by: druidsue at March 18, 2013 08:55 PM (BsZGS)
Posted by: speedster1 at March 18, 2013 08:55 PM (yeM7r)
Posted by: Mirage at March 18, 2013 08:56 PM (phScf)
Posted by: JHW at March 18, 2013 08:57 PM (B38OD)
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 08:58 PM (vJdyz)
There were some impressive performing enterprise grade 5.25" SCSI ones that Seagate made.
That's what I've got, not the old 10-100M MFM/RLL/ESDI stuff. Most of that, I ditched long ago in favor of SCSI. When the Adaptec 2940xx series of adapters started hitting eBay at cheap prices years ago, going SCSI was no longer a high price option.
One of those hooked to a drive with 10+ platters pumps the data as good as or better than more modern 3.5" drives with only one or two platters due to fewer seeks
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 08:59 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Mirage at March 18, 2013 08:59 PM (phScf)
Posted by: Beef at March 18, 2013 09:00 PM (mb1uj)
Posted by: speedster1 at March 18, 2013 09:01 PM (yeM7r)
Posted by: Beef at March 18, 2013 09:02 PM (mb1uj)
Posted by: vivi at March 18, 2013 09:03 PM (m2oDh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 18, 2013 09:04 PM (g7q64)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 09:05 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: kalneva at March 18, 2013 09:05 PM (S+/pH)
Based on the results of the last election, I would hereby posit that you are full of crap.
Posted by: navybrat at March 19, 2013 12:50 AM (3M8g3)
I don't really know what went on in that last election other than what I've seen from exit polling and what people have actually said/written. Bush so damaged the republican brand that it STILL is recovering. Our elected representatives are not doing us any favors by representing conservatism to the general public. Look at the poll in the hill earlier today where you have huge support for cutting the budget but it falls like a rock if REPUBLICAN is attached to it.
As to the election proper: In hindsight, Romney pissed away many of the chances he got at differentiating himself from Obama, and many people sat out or freaking voted for the devil they knew. The last debate was spent having Romney basically say I agree with the president. The second debate had Romney giving up EASY answers for no goddamned reason. I know SO many stupid people who sat out last election and would not be persuaded otherwise to vote for Romney since to them, he was the same as Obama.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 09:06 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: buzzion at March 18, 2013 09:07 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Irish Monks on the Seashore at March 18, 2013 09:07 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 09:08 PM (Vk2pI)
A story of sympathetic majik for you ...
A toilet tank is broken in CA. A toilet handle snaps in AZ.
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 19, 2013 12:25 AM (TvO05)
Luck comes in threes.....
Posted by: cthulhu at March 18, 2013 09:09 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Mirage at March 18, 2013 09:09 PM (phScf)
*Something* does not compute.....
That is because she is referring to productivity, not inflation.
So the idea is, if you work the same number of hours but get twice as much work done, you should get paid twice as much.
Which is ridiculous, it is the whole Marxist labor theory of value nonsense, that profit represents stolen wages or something.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 18, 2013 09:10 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Whatev at March 18, 2013 09:11 PM (A7Wh1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 18, 2013 09:11 PM (g7q64)
Posted by: JHW at March 18, 2013 09:11 PM (B38OD)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子~です at March 19, 2013 01:12 AM (Vk2pI)
Really? Finally? Been one long ass wait, been bidding my time watching Highschool DxD
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 09:13 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: NWConservative at March 19, 2013 12:47 AM (M1gmo)
I have tried and tried to get my conservative mom, who thinks she's a liberal because she listens to NPR and MSNBC, to recognize this, and I can't do it. She hates that I'm conservative, she hates that my dad is conservative, she hates that every member of her immediate family over the age of 30 is conservative. It has led to tears more times than I would like to admit.
Posted by: kalneva at March 18, 2013 09:14 PM (S+/pH)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子~です at March 18, 2013 09:15 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 18, 2013 09:16 PM (g7q64)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子~です at March 19, 2013 01:15 AM (Vk2pI)
I know that but I didn't know it was coming back now. Was thinking the next episode was a week or so out
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 09:16 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: cthulhu at March 19, 2013 12:21 AM (kaalw)
Desktop PC100s (or 133s), low-density 256Mb.
Well, don't have to be 256s but that' the max they take.
They're not expensive on eBay.
I haven't tested all the laptops, though, one is PC2100 and works and three are old-fashioned 66MHz So-DIMMs and need one or more parts to test them properly (gave my adjustable laptop power supply to my Dad).
I just failed three PC100 sticks, I have two 64s and a 32 that survived. For three computers. So they *work*.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2013 12:31 AM (bxiXv)
I'll see what I've got handy tomorrow sometime. Is there a good way to get hold of you?
Posted by: cthulhu at March 18, 2013 09:17 PM (kaalw)
Most minimum wage jobs are labor intensive and not amenable to automation so much. There's only so much the march of technology can do to improve the application of a broom, or stocking of a shelf. Those kind of jobs are intrinsically productivity limited.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 09:17 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: kalneva at March 18, 2013 09:18 PM (S+/pH)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子~です at March 18, 2013 09:19 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 09:20 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 09:22 PM (vJdyz)
So the idea is, if you work the same number of hours but get twice as much work done, you should get paid twice as much.
There's nothing wrong with that line of thought. The problem is that you're not being compared to the past, but to your fellow workers. Productivity has generally increased for all workers, meaning that there is no change.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 18, 2013 09:23 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at March 18, 2013 09:24 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at March 19, 2013 01:24 AM (Vk2pI)
of course not, dude has to fuck his sister
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 09:25 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at March 18, 2013 09:26 PM (Vk2pI)
This freaking antique running DOS/Win31 is blistering fast compared to modern machines running bloatware.
Shit is near instantaneous on it. Everything pops rather than oozing.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 09:27 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at March 19, 2013 01:26 AM (Vk2pI)
when every show has the protagonist grope his sister's tits on "accident" or stare at her snatch, of course not
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 09:28 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: kalneva at March 19, 2013 01:14 AM (S+/pH)
Sarah Palin had the right idea with this little bit of populism. I think the republicans can do it with someone like Rand Paul and the Luap Nor following he has.
I always talk to liberals as a libertarian and never as a republican, because as soon as they hear that word, they shut down and everything you say is straight out of the mouth of faux news, karl rove, and the koch brothers. We could tell them that the sky is blue and they would rather go blind than admit it came from an evil republican. I speak from experience as I was an a outright liberal who was slowly persuaded by a libertarian/conservative friend of mine (who is a republican) several years ago.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 09:29 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 19, 2013 01:23 AM (lr3d7)
WRONG! Jack Germond!
Posted by: kalneva at March 18, 2013 09:29 PM (S+/pH)
This freaking antique running DOS/Win31 is blistering fast compared to modern machines running bloatware.
Shit is near instantaneous on it. Everything pops rather than oozing.
Amazing, isn't it? And infuriating.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 18, 2013 09:29 PM (lr3d7)
Then you should do piece work, and get paid by each piece, not by the hour.
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2013 09:29 PM (3M8g3)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 09:30 PM (bxiXv)
I listen to NPR on the drive to and from work to get an idea of what my liberal friends are hearing (it's a 10-15 minute drive). The other day, at the beginning of a program I heard an advertisement for what I interpreted as some microlending service. The tag line was
"Get your money out of the bank and into action"
I was absolutely gobsmacked. Liberals have no inkling of how banks or money or anything works. Through all the on going financial crisis they never bothered to learn a god damn thing about anything. They do not even understand what a bank does with your money when you give it to them.
It's just unicorns and magic
Posted by: Helga at March 18, 2013 09:30 PM (zi2+b)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 18, 2013 09:31 PM (9fgdV)
http://tinyurl.com/c4a39cl
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 09:31 PM (vJdyz)
So the idea is, if you work the same number of hours but get twice as much work done, you should get paid twice as much.
There's nothing wrong with that line of thought. The problem is that you're not being compared to the past, but to your fellow workers. Productivity has generally increased for all workers, meaning that there is no change.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 19, 2013 01:23 AM (lr3d7)
Or you start getting the stink eye and threats from your fellow union members.
Posted by: buzzion at March 18, 2013 09:32 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Dieter at March 18, 2013 09:32 PM (uj9iS)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 09:33 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: cthulhu at March 19, 2013 01:17 AM (kaalw)
Yahoo group? I don't normally check that e-mail but I can. Are you connected to one of the ette's FB thingies?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2013 01:30 AM (bxiXv)
Er.....how 'bout "I get email at my nic @ a certain domain that I will put in a different post."
Posted by: cthulhu at March 18, 2013 09:33 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: kalneva at March 18, 2013 09:34 PM (S+/pH)
This freaking antique running DOS/Win31 is blistering fast compared to modern machines running bloatware.
Shit is near instantaneous on it. Everything pops rather than oozing.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 01:27 AM (/gHaE)
That is why I hate every new Microsoft OS coming out now. One more new "feature" added to bloat the system, make it more difficult to do simple things, and add layer upon layer of menus to get to the things I want and take triple the memory and processor capacity to do it.
Seriously, it makes me wish I could update windows 98se to be compatible with modern hardware. I don't want the bells and whistles to play a game or go surfing the web. I need the OS to be there for the platform and then get the hell out of the way when I want to actually use my system.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 09:34 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Dieter at March 19, 2013 01:32 AM (uj9iS)
So nice of you to get my ancient reference.
Posted by: kalneva at March 18, 2013 09:38 PM (S+/pH)
Posted by: druidsue at March 19, 2013 12:55 AM (BsZGS)
Go do a search fo the WMA... Western Martial Arts Association... we have people all over the country trying to recreate from period writings, what we have lost.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 18, 2013 09:40 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 09:42 PM (bxiXv)
Thou knowest and I know not.
So much the happier, I.
Posted by: We are doomed. at March 18, 2013 09:43 PM (4pEBT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 09:43 PM (bxiXv)
All that bloatware shit blows out the L1/L2 caches badly. That along with total ignorance of page tuning or working set is a nasty combination that makes modern machines run at about 1/10th the performance levels they're actually capable of (in absolute terms).
Hardware has become the "fix" for substandard and sloppy programming.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 09:43 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 09:45 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 09:46 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Keena at March 18, 2013 09:46 PM (M5qgo)
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 18, 2013 09:48 PM (vgd4f)
Two machines - the "new" one for surfing, and an old one for writing/spreadsheets/etc using 10+yo software that's actually fast.
I'm finding that I'm drifting into that paradigm.
10 years ago Linux was an option for older stuff, but that's no longer true. Someone fucked up the X and GUI shell stuff so badly with bloat and slop that it needs more dramatically more hardware resource now than XP does.
XP on a Pentium Pro with 128M and a Matrox Millenium is quite usable. Zorin Linux (one of the supposedly "low resource" distros) takes 1/2hr to load the live CD, and you have to walk away (literally) for 15min between mouse clicks. It won't even install on that machine.
XP used to be bashed as a pig, now its a svelte hot rod by comparison.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 09:52 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: kalneva at March 19, 2013 01:34 AM (S+/pH)
For TL
R: Conversion story. I live in Southeast King County, Washington.
I was a liberal from birth to conservative democrats (blue collar workers). I was a party liberal and would support anything that would further the democrat party, and I mean anything. I was completely for amnesty then if it got more democrat votes and if I found out a republican supported something, I would be against it for some reason.
Like I said, in high school I had a friend who was a libertarian conservative and would present me with arguments that I could not refute without twisting myself up, I was an honest hack at least. So I found that by debating him, he chinked my liberal armor each time and got me to listen to talk radio, which was the devil, by the way. But again, the liberal callers always would call in and be pounded to death with logic and passion by the conservative host so much that I wished I had the time to call in and refute these silly conservatives. I had stopped calling them evil and just felt that they misunderstood how the world worked.
Then I realized how much simpler the arguments were and that I actually, GASP, agreed with a couple especially on freedom of speech. I did a report on the media bias in my first year of college from a liberal perspective and again found that I, GASP, agreed with conservatives that the media was liberally biased. I then went to politicalcompass.org and took their test just to see where I was at and found I was very much an economic freedom type of guy, but very much on the authoritarian side of things. Freaked me the hell out. And then John Kerry lost. Shattered my belief that everyone agreed with me and reexamined my beliefs, pulled the wool away from my eyes and said, I'm a republican, like a weight being lifted from my shoulders. I felt right for the first time in a long time.
Just in time for the 2006 democratic landslide and all the hell since then. It sucks being angry at the government the whole time. I would have loved this as a democrat in 2004.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 09:53 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: cthulhu at March 18, 2013 09:53 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: cthulhu at March 19, 2013 01:53 AM (kaalw)
didn't know anyone still used AOL
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 09:56 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 09:57 PM (vJdyz)
Remember when people bitched that NT needed a grotesque 12M to install...and OS/2 needed an outlandish 8M to run effectively?
I wonder how Windows 7 would perform with the old W2K shell ontop of it? The W2K UI did everything I ever needed a UI to do. Everything.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 09:57 PM (/gHaE)
Two machines - the "new" one for surfing, and an old one for writing/spreadsheets/etc using 10+yo software that's actually fast.
I'm finding that I'm drifting into that paradigm.
10 years ago Linux was an option for older stuff, but that's no longer true. Someone fucked up the X and GUI shell stuff so badly with bloat and slop that it needs more dramatically more hardware resource now than XP does.
XP on a Pentium Pro with 128M and a Matrox Millenium is quite usable. Zorin Linux (one of the supposedly "low resource" distros) takes 1/2hr to load the live CD, and you have to walk away (literally) for 15min between mouse clicks. It won't even install on that machine.
XP used to be bashed as a pig, now its a svelte hot rod by comparison.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 01:52 AM (/gHaE)
I know right? I took forever to update to XP because of the fisher price color scheme and the bloat. But compared to suck ass Windows 8, it is awesome.
Linux is great if you don't use gnome3/unity or kde as a desktop environment. I have used mate (gnome 2) in the past and it is much lower of a resource hog than kde/gnome3 is and doesn't need a UBER graphics card just to run the OS.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 09:58 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 01:43 AM (/gHaE)
Remember in the series "Kung-fu" where Caine had to go through some trials, and at the end had to lift aside a cauldron of coals using his bare forearms to be permanently marked as an initiate?
There should be a similar ritual to get a Computer Science degree, where "Hardware has become the "fix" for substandard and sloppy programming." is the text burned into the graduate's arms.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 18, 2013 09:58 PM (kaalw)
780 = $800
770 = $700
680 = $500
According to the SweClockers now preparing a slimmed down Nvidia graphics card with circuit GK110, known from Geforce GTX Titan. The exact details are not yet known, but the source says that the graphics card is based on essentially the same configuration as Tesla, K20. That would mean 2496 CUDA cores, 320-bit memory bus, and 5 GB of GDDR5 memory. Nvidia has the opportunity to halve the amount of memory with the same bandwidth.
These specifications can be compared with 2688 CUDA cores, 384-bit memory bus, and 6 GB of GDDR5 memory on GeForce GTX Titan, which also suggests that the new graphics card is designed for a lower price range. Geforce GTX Titanium costs in the current situation around 9000 Euros including VAT.
The launch is expected to take place sometime in the third quarter, possibly in July or August.
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 09:58 PM (vJdyz)
I wonder how Windows 7 would perform with the old W2K shell ontop of it? The W2K UI did everything I ever needed a UI to do. Everything.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 01:57 AM (/gHaE)
Feature creep. Microsoft trying to stay fresh by adding more and more eye candy.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 09:59 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Charles Babbage at March 18, 2013 10:00 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 10:00 PM (TvO05)
I just checked it...login email is still active. Wow.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 10:01 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: cthulhu at March 19, 2013 01:53 AM (kaalw)
didn't know anyone still used AOL
Posted by: The Dude at March 19, 2013 01:56 AM (vJdyz)
It's on my to-do list. Along with 5,476,812,392 other things....
Posted by: cthulhu at March 18, 2013 10:01 PM (kaalw)
The launch is expected to take place sometime in the third quarter, possibly in July or August.
Posted by: The Dude at March 19, 2013 01:58 AM (vJdyz)
I am buying NVIDIA this next round, have an old 5850 ati card and I HATE HATE HATE their drivers. Not the first card of theirs with problems. I have had more problems with their cards than anything else in my system.
But 800$ for a graphics card? Were they on shrooms when they came up with those prices??? No one but a few crazies will buy that.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 10:03 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 10:03 PM (TvO05)
But 800$ for a graphics card? Were they on shrooms when they came up with those prices??? No one but a few crazies will buy that.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 19, 2013 02:03 AM (M1gmo)
it's just them filling out all the price ranges. And yeah, will never go back to AMD even with Nvidia bending people over on prices. TEAM GREEN 4 LIFE
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2013 10:05 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: kalneva at March 18, 2013 10:05 PM (S+/pH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 10:09 PM (bxiXv)
I think the so called battle in the republican party is a good thing!
I think the true fucking disaster the dems are becoming is priceless!
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 18, 2013 10:10 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 10:12 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Arbalest at March 18, 2013 10:13 PM (ydruT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 10:14 PM (bxiXv)
4th year final exam question: "explain the interaction between L1 cache size, cache line size and compiler optimization and data alignment options"
I'm betting 90% of recent grads don't understand that question.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 10:14 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Arbalest at March 18, 2013 10:16 PM (ydruT)
I need them to be linked to a small infrared camera mounted in a pistol rail. With a target reticule, and a IR light.
Point pistol around corner, and see what it is aiming at.
These glasses are wasted on hipster douches.
Posted by: Kristophr at March 18, 2013 10:18 PM (wYVte)
On the other hand, I think people are probably too dumb to do it any other way, so maybe I should try not to think about it.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2013 02:14 AM (bxiXv)
If your comment referred to the republicans, I dont want it fixed, they need to go.
They are dem/communist lite and we cannot put up with it!
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 18, 2013 10:20 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: kalneva at March 19, 2013 02:05 AM (S+/pH)
Yeah, I converted young, voted for John Kerry and straight (D) at 18, got smacked around, voted for Dave Reichert (R) (who is a liberal republican for my standards now, but to democrats, he is so far right he might as well be a toothless redneck from 1800's Alabama) at 20. I have been watching the republicans snatch defeat from the jaws of victory ever since (except 2010, and we all know how that went putting a loser like Boehner BACK in charge).
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 10:20 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 10:21 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 10:23 PM (Vk2pI)
I mean, one thing that is kind of necessary but bloatish is that the OS and the GUI have to support damned near every piece of hardware out there. Thousands and thousands of different pieces of hardware.
There are supposed to be certain standards, but standards are like slaves in a Somali brothel - they get violated a lot.
To a certain extent that goes for software compatibility as well. They discard a few more of those, but not that many. A lot of old software *has* to work if they want sales.
There are plenty of other problems, but a modern consumer OS is a *gigantic* project.
That being said, so much of it could be done better - I just don't know how much better without abandoning the installed base or raising prices.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2013 02:09 AM (bxiXv)
That's the problem windows has been facing for a long time too. Their install base is so huge that they need to not break backwards compatibility or their userbase would scream to high heaven. Just look at the 16-bit users freaking out over their exclusion from 64-bit Windows.
That is what happens with open platforms, everyone can change things to how they see fit if they really want to.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 10:24 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 10:26 PM (Vk2pI)
Actually, me neither.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2013 02:21 AM (bxiXv)
Well in windows 8 you have a rotating cursor. That's it.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 10:26 PM (M1gmo)
And were told, "hell, no! Those lights have GOT to stay! That's now a major selling feature."
Posted by: cthulhu at March 18, 2013 10:27 PM (kaalw)
I run Win7 64-bit and use 16-bit programs on "WindowsXP Mode" virtual machine. Seems to work perfectly fine for me...
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 19, 2013 02:26 AM (Vk2pI)
It doesn't run them natively. Try running some games from the early 32 bit era with 16-bit installers or components. Doesn't work in 64 bit Windows and won't work in virtual machine due to no graphics driver support (or weak support).
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 10:28 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 18, 2013 10:29 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 10:29 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 10:31 PM (bxiXv)
Yea, but that's largely localized into particular drivers. ex. DOS's ubiquitous HIMEM.SYS driver has about a dozen hardware errata workarounds in it for various broken machines, but its organized so that those workarounds only get loaded if needed. If not, they're discarded and don't remain resident.
Its not often that hardware errata workarounds make their way into the mainstream kernel code. The early 386's notorious errata 21 was an exception, that code was typically embedded in memory management.
Software compatibility is a somewhat different case. That results in mainstream code taking on baroque and exception festooned configurations, and has system loaders doing things like scanning for particularly misbehaved apps and flagging them for subsequent special treatment.
Even real DOS had to deal with some of the Lotus DOS extender fuckups in its EXE loader and patches shit on the fly so it'll work.
I've often said its divine intervention that any PC manages to boot at all given all the hardware and software errata that NEED to be worked around for that to happen.
...and of course the hardware guys EXPECT that sort of "software salvation" when they fuckup bad. I did a special hack-o-matic version of EMM386 for IBM years ago so the hardware guys wouldn't have to recall about 250,000 machines at a rework cost of $1000/ea.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 10:31 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 10:36 PM (TvO05)
Violets are blue,
Better to have a bloated OS,
Then Obamacare. Tis true!
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 19, 2013 02:36 AM (TvO05)
'Tis better to have a bloated OS than a bloated ass.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 18, 2013 10:38 PM (kaalw)
They are dem/communist lite and we cannot put up with it!
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 19, 2013 02:20 AM (vgd4f)
What the republican party is doing now is not working. It needs to rid itself of the Bushes and their operatives. Seriously, our last two Republican presidents were BOTH Bushes and BOTH left the republican party worse off when they left. I know this is getting tiring, but the establishment republicans of the Rockefeller stripe need to be deposed from leadership and relegated to backbencher status. They should never come near the reigns of power ever again.
If Jeb Bush is seriously competing in 2016, I'm out. Done. The world will have to be facing SMOD before that will happen.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 10:39 PM (M1gmo)
...if "modern" Linux distros make Vista look like a starving Ethiopian by comparison, something has gone off the rails somewhere, right?
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 10:42 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2013 10:45 PM (64rcm)
...if "modern" Linux distros make Vista look like a starving Ethiopian by comparison, something has gone off the rails somewhere, right?
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 02:42 AM (/gHaE)
They all want to be on tablets now. See Gnome3 and Ubuntu's Unity. Seriously try MATE Desktop someday if you ever boot into Linux. Still get a modernish desktop without the frills (It still is a resource hog, but not as bad as others).
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 10:45 PM (M1gmo)
They will fight us tooth and nail if we try to take away the scraps the Democrats throw at their feet.
Posted by: eman at March 19, 2013 02:45 AM (64rcm)
I laughed out loud when I heard McCain throwing a hissy fit the day after Rand Paul did his filibuster because Rand pissed all over his dinner party with Satan and Miss Grahamnesty.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 10:47 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 10:47 PM (bxiXv)
If Jeb Bush is seriously competing in 2016, I'm out. Done. The world will have to be facing SMOD before that will happen.
Im with you, no more rinos........ Give me a Cruz/West ticket.
If they even give me a Rubio/Bush ticket, I will wash my hands of the reps, I have already given up on the GOP!
GOP is fitting ,grand old pussies, they have compromised their values/morals..
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 18, 2013 10:48 PM (vgd4f)
I don't think that wasn't part of Paul's plans. One of my classic observations that the only thing worse than gridlock is bipartisanship.Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 10:50 PM (bxiXv)
Im with you, no more rinos........ Give me a Cruz/West ticket.
If they even give me a Rubio/Bush ticket, I will wash my hands of the reps, I have already given up on the GOP!
GOP is fitting ,grand old pussies, they have compromised their values/morals..
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 19, 2013 02:48 AM (vgd4f)
For me, it is not even the fact that he is probably a rino like the rest of his family, it is the fact that he is UNELECTABLE with that last name. You know since electability was a buzzword that was thrown in everyone's faces last year.
You do know that Cruz is technically and unfortunately a Canadian right?
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 10:54 PM (M1gmo)
That was upstaged.
I don't think that wasn't part of Paul's plans. One of my classic observations that the only thing worse than gridlock is bipartisanship.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2013 02:50 AM (bxiXv)
You know, I really hope he runs. He generated more good PR for the republicans and himself than anything that Rubio has ever done since he got into office. He irritated me during the filibuster when he started quoting "great poets" like Jay-Z to try and be "hip" with the kiddies. I hate when politicians look like they are trying too hard to be "like us."
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 10:59 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: SGT. York at March 18, 2013 11:00 PM (H1IKD)
You do know that Cruz is technically and unfortunately a Canadian right?
Posted by: NWConservative at March 19, 2013 02:54 AM (M1gmo)
Well son of a bitch! Thanks for ruining my night!
Ok, will take a West/Conservative to be named later ticket that is!
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 18, 2013 11:00 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 11:00 PM (bxiXv)
Free stuff never gets the mundane un-sexy "productization" grunt work stuff right. Everyone wants to work on the new bling, nobody wants to clean up the 10 year old turds that have been lurking forever.
I always found performance and memory usage reduction work interesting...but I don't think that's the norm.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 11:02 PM (/gHaE)
On the other hand, we need him in the Senate.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2013 03:00 AM (bxiXv)
I would rather have him in the Senate and eventually get to a point to be a leader there, hopefully majority leader. He has more balls than the entire leadership of the House and Senate right now and hopefully sticks to his principles.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 11:05 PM (M1gmo)
I'm almost out of caffeine, which is tragic, and need to make a WMT run...preferably in the middle of the night when there's no traffic...
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 11:05 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 18, 2013 11:06 PM (9fgdV)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 11:07 PM (/gHaE)
Good, hopefully it is true so that he could run for president one day if he so chose.
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 11:08 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 18, 2013 11:09 PM (9fgdV)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 18, 2013 11:10 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 19, 2013 03:06 AM (9fgdV)
OK, I Love you, tee hee!
I will not go vote for the lesser of two evils. So over this!
Gonna vote for anyone but the dnc/gop party, just saying!
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 18, 2013 11:10 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 18, 2013 11:11 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 18, 2013 11:16 PM (9fgdV)
Posted by: NWConservative at March 18, 2013 11:19 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 19, 2013 03:16 AM (9fgdV) HaHa, you sound like that crazy ass girl, Kayinmaine!!
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 18, 2013 11:21 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 11:24 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: lou's a girl at March 18, 2013 11:25 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 11:31 PM (TvO05)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2013 02:50 AM (bxiXv)
That's why I don't want a legislator. I want a sitting or recently retired (within 6 years of the election) governor of a red or purple state. And if they beging talking about bipartisanship and working with democrats I'll be done with them too. I want to hear about results. "We did this in my state and it worked and people are better off for it." Even if that "this" is getting the government out of the fucking way.
Posted by: buzzion at March 18, 2013 11:32 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 11:33 PM (TvO05)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at March 18, 2013 11:34 PM (yJYwC)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 11:35 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 18, 2013 11:37 PM (TvO05)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 18, 2013 11:43 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: cthulhu at March 18, 2013 11:59 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 03:43 AM (/gHaE)
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congress should be held on Amchitka in 3 quonset huts -- one male, one female, one dining/meeting. The only other thing there should be a gun emplacement to sink the lobbyist yachts.
and anytime the nuclear background radiation subsides too much they should set off another test.
no session of congress would last over 14 days.
Posted by: jc at March 19, 2013 12:05 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at March 19, 2013 12:13 AM (ZCu9v)
Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at March 19, 2013 04:13 AM (ZCu9v)
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Send them all to Amchitka. They will limit themselves.
Posted by: jc at March 19, 2013 12:25 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 12:28 AM (x3YFz)
Doing very CPU intensive stuff like full builds of big projects is where the lack of raw horsepower shows up...
...but the C compiler included a sample app that's a pretty faithful rendition of the old arcade Asteroids.
Asteroids!!! Old school gaming.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 12:29 AM (/gHaE)
I'd give it 4 hours before we were filling vacant seats.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 12:31 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 12:31 AM (/gHaE)
She'd be trussed up, gagged, and stuffed in the closet within 5min.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 12:33 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 04:29 AM (/gHaE)
That's some good shit right there. Last job I had I wrote C pure and all the little hippie newly grads looked at me like I was I dinosaur. Then I farted and cleared the room.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 12:34 AM (x3YFz)
Dammit guys, there's been too much content the past few days; obviously none of you are on the sauce. Think we ('rons and 'ettes) should take a collection up and send a few cases of Val-U-Rite your way; what are you guys bucking for, a "Blog of the Year" award or something? Fuck... it used to be an 'ette could come here and read a whole lot of nothing...
;-)
Posted by: Linlithgow at March 19, 2013 12:35 AM (Gim9y)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 12:37 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 12:38 AM (x3YFz)
Tangonine- so depending on the quality of your students, that could be 10 minutes, maybe less!
Is this college or HS level physics?
Posted by: Linlithgow at March 19, 2013 12:40 AM (Gim9y)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 12:42 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: NWConservative at March 19, 2013 02:54 AM (M1gmo)
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If his mother was a U.S. citizen that lived in the U.S. for at least 5 years, and at least 2 of those years after her 14th birthday -- then Ted Cruz is a U.S. citizen by birth, and would be so even if he were born on the moon.
That is not about mothers in general - rather it is specific to Cruz - because his Cuban father was apparently not a U.S. citizen at the time. It only takes one parent.
Posted by: jc at March 19, 2013 12:42 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 04:42 AM (x3YFz)
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does the first test in that class still have stuff like a ballistic pendulum?
Posted by: jc at March 19, 2013 12:47 AM (PlzOe)
If you need some glue or special purpose gizmo, you make it.
I did a SCM consulting gig at Prudential years ago and needed some widget to filter bits of text for some PVCS triggers, but I wasn't considered part of their "programming" group. Couldn't get a compiler installed not being a "programmer" without a HUGE bureaucratic nightmare...
Luckily, NT4 still included freaking DOS command line DEBUG. So...I wrote my little filter program using DEBUG as an assembler, had it spit out my hand assembled shit as a COM file and the PVCS triggers just executed that DOS app. Bringing along a DOS tech ref on that gig came in pretty handy.
Crusty old EDLIN also works good in batch files with redirected input and output for repetitive editing of known quantities
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 12:48 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 12:51 AM (/gHaE)
but I figure hey, if I just tell them to treat everything except what they're taking the derivative with respect to as a constant, it's trivial. Right? Nope.
Oh and my lab monkeys (how I refer to the people that teach labs) are off mis-teaching things (and oh, good lord they screw it up 18 ways to Sunday), the Law of Primacy means I get to spend two weeks fixing their.... how to put it delicately.... moronic bullshit.
thank you for letting me rant. I need to drink more. Or less. Or something.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 12:52 AM (x3YFz)
Crusty old EDLIN also works good in batch files with redirected input and output for repetitive editing of known quantities
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 04:48 AM (/gHaE)
someday we'll be dead and they'll be screwed. I like you.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 12:55 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: jc at March 19, 2013 04:47 AM (PlzOe)
I do use that! I have test questions that start with: "A Taliban is approaching your position 30 meters below the horizontal...."
We're second semester now so E and M. Would do the battery attached to the nuts in a CIA interrogation room, but I know where the line is and when it's not a good idea to cross it.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 12:59 AM (x3YFz)
God - calculus, physics and NT4 in 20 minutes of posts. *sigh* You guys sure know how to make a girl happy!
Posted by: Linlithgow at March 19, 2013 01:09 AM (Gim9y)
Posted by: jc at March 19, 2013 01:12 AM (PlzOe)
Thanks, tangonine, I'm proud to accept it. 8-)
My favourite chem teacher talked about one of his finals - how close to the speed of light would a train of x length need to go in order to fit into a tunnel it is too long for (of length y)?
Just considering that I think would make some people's heads explode. God I love science.
Posted by: Linlithgow at March 19, 2013 01:35 AM (Gim9y)
Which is a pretty good indication why we're doomed.
LIB.
Oh, and morning folks! It looks like Mother Gaia sent yet another batch of Global Warming delaying school openings in the northeast today. Thanks, AlGore.
Posted by: DocJ at March 19, 2013 02:06 AM (V20sy)
Posted by: sTevo at March 19, 2013 02:14 AM (vroT8)
Posted by: True North at March 19, 2013 02:15 AM (cWpCn)
Posted by: teej at March 19, 2013 02:17 AM (cWpCn)
I have a rule of thumb about project estimates -- take your best good faith estimate, double that, and add another 50% for unforeseen road blocks and fuckup remediation for shit other people and vendors botched.
That rule of thumb has stood me well for decades. People are amazed how I can do a Karnak imitation for 10sec and pull a number straight out of my ass with no reference materials or data that turns out to be within 90-95% of actual when all is said and done.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 19, 2013 02:27 AM (/gHaE)
Morning everyone. No school today here in NEPA. Roads are going to be a freaking mess all day, since the plows sort of slack off if school is out. I got a total of maybe five inches, and right now, it's being topped with a layer of freezing drizzle. And shit, I'm out of beer. Looks like I'll be imbibing hand-sanitizer and mouthwash to soften whatever doom DC sends our way today.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 19, 2013 02:37 AM (0IhFx)
Posted by: ALH at March 19, 2013 02:46 AM (eqV3Q)
Now, my students have to take the hippie classes to graduate, so I'm sure they cross-pollinate, and I expect the commies don't like me. I like that.
I'm on the front line of fixing the shit the K-12 do wrong. I have 73 students in Physics II, (record for the school, btw) and I know them all by name.
I was a drill instructor once in a former lifetime, but that pales in comparison to what I do now. I get paid so, so much less, but I influence so many more. And that's what matters.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 02:54 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Phinn at March 19, 2013 04:09 AM (HINxj)
Posted by: occam at March 19, 2013 04:12 AM (GUG2O)
Posted by: Phinn at March 19, 2013 04:36 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: occam at March 19, 2013 08:12 AM (GUG2O)
You're a special kind of uninformed, ignorant, stupid aren't you?
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2013 07:06 AM (x3YFz)
This is the same retard that spews anti-gun blather on other blogs, and pimps the CCW=blood in the streets meme.
He also doesn't understand the difference between economic recovery and inflation caused by the Treasury ordering the fed to print new money backed only by Treasury IOUs.
Yes, when the Titanic is sinking , all those deck chairs all seem to be floating higher than ever before.
Posted by: Kristophr at March 19, 2013 07:09 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: NYC Parent at March 19, 2013 07:11 AM (HEo6y)
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