March 25, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (3-25-2013)
— Maetenloch

Remembering Operation Linebacker II

CBS apologized this week for using the wreckage of a US B-52 shot down in Vietnam as a prop in its show "The Great Race" but most viewers probably didn't know how it got there, what it's significance was or why it mattered so much at the end of the Vietnam war.

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And Spook86 at In From the Cold explains it for those who've forgotten or never knew.

When the North Vietnamese walked away from the Paris Peace Talks (yet again), President Nixon decided to force Hanoi's hand militarily.  He ordered his commanders to prepare a "maximum air effort" against the North.  Unlike earlier, incremental air power campaigns (such as Rolling Thunder), the new offensive, dubbed Linebacker II, would feature large numbers of sorties against a wide range of North Vietnamese targets from the onset.  And most importantly, the new campaign would send waves of B-52s over Hanoi, in the largest American bomber raids since World War II. 

The offensive began on December 18, 1972.  North Vietnam's Soviet-designed air defense network (built around the SA-2 surface-to-air missile system), offered massive resistance.  By some estimates, almost 2 SAMs were launched for every "Buff" sortie, meaning that North Vietnamese crews fired over 200 missiles during some of the nighttime raids.

But there were also concerns about potential losses; if too many Buffs went down over North Vietnam, SAC would have difficulty maintaining political support for its bomber force and B-52 losses were irreplaceable, since the Boeing assembly line had been shut down a decade earlier.

...The heaviest losses occurred in the early phases of the campaign; three B-52s were lost on the first night over Hanoi, and six more (4 "G" models and 2 "D" models) went down on the third night, forever known as "Black Thursday" in the B-52 community.  Overall, SAC lost 15 Buffs during Linebacker II, including the one now used as a memorial in North Vietnam.  A total of 33 B-52 crew members were killed, and an equal number were captured by the North Vietnamese.  Among the six men who flew on the B-52 whose wreckage now forms that memorial, only four survived.

But for possibly the first time the North Vietnamese leadership were afraid and felt they needed to do something to get Americans to stop the bombing.

But the bombers achieved their goals.  North Vietnam suddenly decided to finalize the Paris Peace Accords, wondering what that "madman" Nixon might do next.  Inside the Hanoi Hilton, hundreds of American POWs also noticed a change of heart.  Senator McCain (and others) recall seeing genuine fear on the faces of their guards, who had mocked and taunted their prisoners for years.  With the B-52s roaming over Hanoi, they too, were worried about what might be in the offing. Treatment of the POWs finally began to improve. 

On February 12, 1973, barely six weeks after the last B-52 sortie over North Vietnam, a U.S. C-141 landed in Hanoi to repatriate the first group of American prisoners.  Among the men on that flight was Navy Commander Everett Alvarez, the first pilot taken prisoner by North Vietnam in 1964, and Air Force Technical Sergeant James Cook, a B-52 gunner who suffered two broken legs, a broken back and fractures in his shoulder and arm during the bailout from his stricken aircraft, which was hit by three SA-2s.  When the C-141 landed in the Philippines, Cook saluted the American flag from his stretcher. 

The Homecoming flights continued for almost two months, until the last of 591 POWs were repatriated.

This was the fate of the men flying that particular B-52:

RR=POW Repatriated.
NR=Negotiated Remains Returned


Callsign: Rose 1, B52D
Aircraft: No. 56-0608
Date of Loss 12-19-72 Hanoi
Based: U-Tapao

Pilot: Capt Hal Wilson, Status: RR
Co-Pilot: Capt Charles Brown, Status: RR
R/Nav: Maj Fernando Alexander, Status: RR
Nav: Capt Richard Cooper, Status: NR
EWO: Capt Henry Barrows, Status: RR
Gunner: E6 Charlie Poole, Status: NR

And these are the four men who survived the ejection and captivity as POWs:

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It's believed that Cooper and Poole survived the crash but died later in captivity.

Trayvon Martin's Family's Attorney Facing Perjury Charges?

Now that we know that his girlfriend lied under oath it appears that the family attorney, Ben Crump, also lied about his role in coaching her testimony.

Now it seems clear that Mr. Crump has been caught in an obvious lie, a lie under oath-perjury. It is possible that this is only the first.  It is further possible that truthful and complete testimony by Mr. Crump would unearth additional lies and the machinations of a racial grievance machine intent not only on convicting George and Shelly Zimmerman regardless of the lack of evidence against them, but on enriching the Scheme Team and its associates.

...He left himself an out by claiming he remembers nothing, but that's not likely to be convincing when he is confronted by his own voice coaching Dee Dee.  One can, however, expect him to take the Fifth.  Oh yes: the more trouble Mr. Crump finds himself in, the more fervently the race card will be played.

And why Zimmerman opted to skip his stand-your-ground hearing:

I postulated a few weeks back that Zimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara dropped the SYG hearing because he'd unearthed evidence that destroyed the prosecution's case and wanted Zimmerman exonerated in a court of law.

Was Esquire Duped by the Bin Laden Shooter?

I don't have enough info to judge the credibility of Brandon Webb's post at SOFREP but if true, it severely undermines the shooter's story.

One story coming out of Joint Special Operations Command is that the Esquire "shooter" isn't the shooter after all. To be clear, he wasn't the point man that put the well placed rounds into UBL's head that ended the terrorist leaders life. Sure he was there, and deserves credit but he wasn't the man who shot UBL, and ended his life. And this is an important fact that must be clarified.

The actual shooter at Naval Special Warfare Development Group (NSW DEVGRU or SEAL TEAM 6) has continued to maintain his professional integrity and has not come forward with the story, and most likely never will. Looks like Esquire and Bronstein are the ones who are really screwed, not their interviewee; our sources say he's off cashing large checks from unsuspecting donors who bought the Esquire pity piece.


Here are some interesting insider facts:
    - The "Shooter" was removed from his DEVGRU Squadron for talking about the operation openly after being warned to "can it'
    - He was encouraged by leadership to remain in the SEAL community to finish out his career and gain his full retirement benefits
    - Apparently against his concerns about personal security he has been very active on the public speaking circuit

The Downside of Universal Background Checks

In order for everyone  to undergo a background check when buying a gun, then background checks will have to open to anyone. I have to admit that this is something I didn't consider when I first heard about the proposal.

Currently access to the FBI's background check system is limited to licensed firearms dealers, who have an incentive not to abuse it lest they lose their license. If it's opened up to all prospective sellers of guns-that is, to everybody-what's to prevent someone from abusing it, say by requesting a background check on Greg Sargent, who presumably has no interest in acquiring a gun?

The system only gives a yes-or-no answer as to whether the putative buyer is eligible to own firearms under federal law. But if you're looking to dig up dirt on someone, a "no" answer on a firearms background check would give you a nice clump of it.

Horace Mann, Child Molestation, and Personality Cults

A long piece in this week's New Yorker by Marc Fisher about more alleged sexual abuse at The Horace Mann School, a prep school in the Bronx. Fisher's piece focuses on Robert Berman, an English teacher at the school for many years.

This piece didn't sound very interesting to me but once I started reading I ended up reading it all the way to end.

The Odds of a Perfect NCAA Bracket

Are pretty damn small even if you know something about basketball.

The first probability is based on a 50/50 split of correct picks, which is like using fair coin flips to pick winners. Bergen doesn't really go into how he calculated the second probability, but that smaller number comes up by bumping up the probability of picking the right team for each game. I think he's using an average probability of slightly less than 70% (based on simulation results from this old Wall Street Journal column).

So offering a million dollar prize for a perfect bracket run is a pretty safe bet for contest organizers.

These favorable conditions make insuring these prize offers a good business, as the Dallas company SCA Promotions has discovered. SCA, founded by 11-time world bridge champion Robert D. Hamman, has taken on the insurance risk for roughly 50 perfect-bracket prizes -- including a Sporting News offer of $1 million in 2001, according to vice president Chris Hamman, the founder's son. In the 12 years it has been doing so, SCA has never had to pay out a claim.

Federal Government: Your Laser Pointers Are Too Powerful Fun

So expect a crackdown or partial banning soon.

"Commercial grade green and red laser pointers emit energy far beyond what is safe, posing skin, eye and fire hazards. That was the conclusion of a National Institute of Standards and Technology study on the properties of handheld lasers. The study tested 122 of the devices and found that nearly 90% of green pointers and about 44% of red pointers tested were out of federal safety regulation compliance."

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The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.

And my twitter thang.

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1 Foist!  Now to read...

Posted by: Tami [/i] at March 25, 2013 06:12 PM (X6akg)

2 in !

Posted by: mccool at March 25, 2013 06:12 PM (MG9++)

3 I will boycott this thread unless I am made first.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 06:14 PM (Zd/NW)

4 fourth?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 25, 2013 06:14 PM (DoZD+)

5 Lone Star Hydra: The Progressive Threat Texas has the second largest Congressional delegation after California, and thus the second largest amount of electoral votes. Out of the four “big” states, only Texas has shown itself to be reliably “red” in both Gubernatorial and Presidential elections. As previously noted, the Democrats have had a plan to turn Texas into a reliably “blue” state, thus assuring total dominance in Presidential, as well as Congressional elections. Their plan, organized under the name Battleground Texas, is now being laid bear http://politicalhat.com/?p=1726

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 25, 2013 06:14 PM (Vk2pI)

6 Operation Linebacker II.....you served well that day gentlemen....God bless those who lived and keep those who fell.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:15 PM (LRFds)

7 meh. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. g'night

Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 25, 2013 06:15 PM (9P+hO)

8 Alas, poor ORGYc! I knew him, Maetenloch; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy; he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! My gorge rises at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. Where be your gibes now? Your gambols? Your songs? Your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar?

Posted by: andycanuck at March 25, 2013 06:16 PM (VwC86)

9 I think Zimmerman deserves some restitution big time for this farce that was politically motivated against him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 25, 2013 06:16 PM (S7KLd)

10

Some Air Force type can check me on this, but I believe that part of the cause of the downed aircraft is that the geniuses planning the missions ORDERED the pilots to take the same routes into the target, mission after mission. 

 

 

Posted by: Die Trying at March 25, 2013 06:17 PM (w7J/R)

11 If I had a perjuring bastard son....it'd probably be me as a literary device...

//BHO2 I faked my daddy's dreams

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:17 PM (LRFds)

12 I'm workin' on it, it'll be back up shortly ProTip: never post something just for the ONT, then take it down before you pass out go to sleep. Them day-walkers want the ONT goodness g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: Crocs™Jackson at March 25, 2013 06:18 PM (JMmQ9)

13 As we used to say as we were stringing fiber optic cable all around campus:

"This is a Class I Laser.  Do not look directly into the light . . . with your remaining eye."

Posted by: Charlton Heston at March 25, 2013 06:18 PM (NaNKB)

14 Another year and another ace-a-thon has passed that I can't give a goddamn dime because of those fucking assholes at Paypal.

Ace, please get a bitcoin address and post it on the front page. I will send 20 BTC there as soon as I see it.

Posted by: schizoid at March 25, 2013 06:18 PM (kSGAe)

15 Present, but fading out quickly.

Posted by: sTevo at March 25, 2013 06:18 PM (VMcEw)

16 Dag nab it, Charton, get your own hashtag!

Posted by: filbert at March 25, 2013 06:18 PM (NaNKB)

17 Lone Star Hydra: The Progressive Threat

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 25, 2013 10:14 PM



Texas was reliably democrat until the commies took over that party.  I know people who are more conservative than I am who are still registered dems because that's what they've always been and always will be.  They just don't vote that way.

Posted by: huerfano at March 25, 2013 06:19 PM (bAGA/)

18 Dag nab it, Charlton, make sure I spell your name right!

Posted by: filbert at March 25, 2013 06:19 PM (NaNKB)

19 Horace Mann, Child Molestation, and Personality Cults BTW, Two senior Doctor Who staff 'used their jobs to sexually exploit young male fans of BBC show in 1980s' http://tinyurl.com/c6nhtu2 Considering what the BBC did for Jimmy "It ain't rape if the kid is dead" Seville, I shudder at how bad this might turn out to be.

Posted by: Davros at March 25, 2013 06:20 PM (Vk2pI)

20 #14

Buy him a few items off his Amazon wish list. It has the same effect.

Posted by: epobirs at March 25, 2013 06:20 PM (kcfmt)

21 As a 7 year old, I was hoping that Nixon would launch "Linebacker III". The absolute ass fucking of North Vietnam, alas, I was disappointed.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 06:20 PM (Zd/NW)

22 Steve McQueen is what the AoS Lifestyle looks like, with money

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 06:20 PM (8sCoq)

23 I suspect that the average American thinks that the Tet Offensive was followed by the fall of Saigon.  The left has done a damn thorough job of rewriting history to their narrative.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 06:21 PM (lr3d7)

24

Before Steve McQueen, I pulled the trigger and blasted my TV. 

 

Thank you, thank you very much.

Posted by: Elvis at March 25, 2013 06:22 PM (w7J/R)

25 I predict this thread will become a 1000-post thread on the Vietnam War I can just feel it coming on

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 06:23 PM (8sCoq)

26 McQueen was drop-dead sexy. Damn.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2013 06:25 PM (piMMO)

27 25 Jones in CO,

nah not from me.....

I am argued out on it...

gonna read some Lo Kuanchung and hit the hay....

if I am not in a lot this week like the last two know I always miss you and often read without comment when able.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:25 PM (LRFds)

28 Great trigger discipline in that Bloomberg ad. Fucking idiots.

Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 06:26 PM (sqp6o)

29 Zimmerman should have shot that drug dealing thief before he punched him.

Posted by: Ides at March 25, 2013 06:27 PM (cvrr4)

30 I've often wondered how that war would have ended had LBJ treated the NV like we treated the Japanese/Germans/Italians, and bombed the crap out of NV.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 25, 2013 06:27 PM (PBm/l)

31 Where's EC with the ONT pic?????

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 06:27 PM (GEICT)

32

The study tested 122 of the devices and found that nearly 90% of green pointers and about 44% of red pointers tested were out of federal safety regulation compliance.

 

 

 

 

 

Studies and statistics carry about as much weight as polls.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 25, 2013 06:27 PM (DoZD+)

33 Roses are red, Lilies are white, Wishing Morons & -ettes, A Happyish Monday Night ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 25, 2013 06:27 PM (TvO05)

34 >if I am not in a lot this week like the last two know I always miss you and often read without comment when able. Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 10:25 PM (LRFds) when you say 'you', you mean 'the horde', right?

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 06:27 PM (8sCoq)

35 Aloha.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2013 06:27 PM (kaalw)

36 I predict this thread will become a 1000-post thread on the Vietnam War

Order of magnitude error?

This sucker might not make 100.

Posted by: filbert at March 25, 2013 06:27 PM (NaNKB)

37 oh, i see now why liberals hate nixon. those pieces of garbage...they are pro-war, for the other side. rob reiner, meathead, you can go to hell you big dumb polack.

Posted by: rev dr e buzz at March 25, 2013 06:29 PM (HQml1)

38 >This sucker might not make 100. Posted by: filbert at March 25, 2013 10:27 PM (NaNKB) or that. case of the mondays and such

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 06:29 PM (8sCoq)

39 Did the VC have Longbows?

Posted by: Ploppy at March 25, 2013 06:29 PM (cvrr4)

40 Just stopping in to say good-night.

I got up at 5:30 and am fading fast.

Have a great evening and ONT,  everyone!

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 25, 2013 06:29 PM (GoIUi)

41 Texas was reliably democrat until the commies took over that party. I know people who are more conservative than I am who are still registered dems because that's what they've always been and always will be. They just don't vote that way. Texas' four major cities are already liberal cesspools of freeloading filth. the Dems will win this battle, because there are more looters and moochers than producers, and now that the Dem-controlled government is assisting the freeloaders with their theft the end result is inevitable.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 06:29 PM (bS6uW)

42

I'm on day three of my five day weekend.  So far I've done almost nothing of importance.  I feel kind of bad, because there are about six projects that I need to work on, but then my inner slacker takes over.

 

How is everyone else doing tonight?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 06:30 PM (lr3d7)

43 One of Steve McQueen's best appearances in a film was in the motorcycle doc "On Any Sunday." A regular joe he was.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 25, 2013 06:30 PM (PBm/l)

44
Texas was reliably democrat until the commies took over that party. I know people who are more conservative than I am who are still registered dems because that's what they've always been and always will be. They just don't vote that way.

Posted by: huerfano at March 25, 2013 10:19 PM (bAGA/)


That's what it used to be like in Virginia until the 90's. The Dems had absolute control of the legislature and city/county governments until the 90's. To have any hope you needed to be a Dem, but we all voted for the GOP. My dad remained a Dem until he died in 94. He hadn't voted for a national Dem since the 60's, but he needed to be a Dem to get anything done down at City Hall. Probably the same in Texas.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 06:30 PM (Zd/NW)

45 Steve McQueen was so smokin' hot.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 25, 2013 06:31 PM (DoZD+)

46 I used to do in-house training on Westlaw usage and I had to constantly remind people that it was against the terms of service, against office police and, oh, yeah, against the law to use the people search features to look up anyone who wasn't directly connected with the case.   Despite those warnings, and despite being told that I was checking usage, everyone looked up exes, co-workers, new boyfriends, etc.   Give people access to a dbase and they will snoop, snoop, snoop.


Hell, my first day at my most recent job, nearly the first thing a new co-worker said to me was "I couldn't find your facebook".   I smiled ever so sweetly and replied "And that is exactly why I don't have one." 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 06:32 PM (Gk3SS)

47 34 Jones in CO,

er yes the collective "you"...

//blush...

no seriously yeah I was speaking of the whole but your bit on Noir did make me smile and given my foul mood today that was no mean feat...

thanks.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:32 PM (LRFds)

48 I second the emotion about an alternate way to donate. I am a very willing donor to my favorite bloggers, and Ace is número uno, but alas. PayPal and I are not friends. I get how it has to be secure, and I respect that, but they won't let me create an account separate from hubby, which I need in order to donate to bloggers. He's so weird in that way. Won't understand why son should intern for no pay, but expects bloggers to do so.

Posted by: Kalneva at March 25, 2013 06:32 PM (S+/pH)

49 police = policy and wow was that Freudian.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 06:32 PM (Gk3SS)

50 To wit: http://tinyurl.com/cp47ccf Government now spends more on disability than food stamps and welfare combined. And damned near every penny of the increase is fraud.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 06:33 PM (bS6uW)

51 "Texas' four major cities are already liberal cesspools of freeloading filth. the Dems will win this battle"

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Please.  This isn't happening in my lifetime.

Posted by: sluggo at March 25, 2013 06:33 PM (vVv3V)

52 I have to admit that this is something I didn't see coming out of this

I saw that coming months ago.  The largest systematic abuses of an "opened up" NICS will be by employers looking to use the system as an employment screening tool.

In one shot it finds more dirt on a potential employee than thousands of dollars worth of private investigation would... 

....although I suspect many PI's are already in league with FFL's and use that go/no-go result as a way to get a quick buck out of people looking for girlfriend/boyfriend checks.  They probably use it for some employment screening too.

Who's to know if some FFL is doing checks for cash for PI's?   A check doesn't imply a purchase, and a purchase doesn't always result in a check, and doing it probably isn't even strictly illegal

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 06:33 PM (/gHaE)

53 451 Sluggo,

I aim to try to stop it...

check out the non blog on the pioneer project...

we can stop the tide maybe.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:34 PM (LRFds)

54 There's a hill at the end of the runway at U-tapao missing the top. A fully loaded buff didn't clear it.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 25, 2013 06:34 PM (6IKyK)

55 50 Blacksheep,

Yup, and the lack of prosecution tells you all you need to know....

part of "divorce"

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:35 PM (LRFds)

56 I used to do in-house training on Westlaw usage.... Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 10:32 PM (Gk3SS) You poor poor soul. Here, have a special brownie.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 06:35 PM (GEICT)

57 I remember takin a fuckin Pe ,in the side were my girl friend said was a love handle..

Posted by: clemenza at March 25, 2013 06:35 PM (HMQ8k)

58 52 Purp Av,

it's a tool in the toolbox...

another use for it is if you pay the correct people you can use a SS# and name and find out the last place a BRC was ran....

that's useful in some lines of work

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:36 PM (LRFds)

59 25 I predict this thread will become a 1000-post thread on the Vietnam War


I can just feel it coming on

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 10:23 PM (8sCoq)


Professor Turgeson would like to weigh in on the matter.


http://tinyurl.com/c37mxhq

Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 06:36 PM (Zd/NW)

60 Go in peace, Sven

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 06:36 PM (8sCoq)

61 [H]e needed to be a Dem to get anything done down at City Hall. Probably the same in Texas. Apparently you've never checked out who runs Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. The black, Hispanic and gay armies run these cities now.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 06:36 PM (bS6uW)

62 You all can thank those liberal effen Mexicans for your over cooked burger..

Posted by: clemenza at March 25, 2013 06:37 PM (HMQ8k)

63 61 Blacksheep,

well a better crowd thus far than the Detroit gang....

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:37 PM (LRFds)

64

History of the Vietnam war-

part-1 America and allies invade Vietnam to plunder rice.

part-2 Ear necklaces.

part-3 Burning villages.

part-4 Killing babies.

part-5 Bombing burnt villages and dead babies.

part-6 Tet.

part-7 Woodstock festival.

part-8 Liberation of Saigon.

part-9 Nixon is a crook.

part-10 Watergate.

 

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2013 06:38 PM (yBF/9)

65 Hey, fappers. 

Maet, I am forever in your debt for the (be still, my heart) Steve McQueen pic.  Was there ever anyone cooler?  whew!

And, Happy Passover to the Jewish morons.

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 06:38 PM (8lmkt)

66 So, in earlier threads we talked about the right's absolute disengagement from patronage, and how it is utterly costing us our asa nationwide. Plus how the left has a shadow patronage system set up, both via government grants to various NFPs, and through the orgs etc that they (the left) actively funds. So how do we start countering this? How do we put together, say, a community organizing grassroots bullshit club, whose job is to create and promote professional conservativists, just like the left had professional leftists? Lets say it starts with 10 people, costing 500k a year after wages and expenses. Without government funding, how do we fund this? Who is the guy who will underwrite this for 5 years, while fundraising etc gets off the ground?

Posted by: Hopeless at March 25, 2013 06:38 PM (NSO0r)

67 I am off to Dewars Land before I get BAn Hammered over the effen Illegals and N Word priviledged..

Posted by: clemenza at March 25, 2013 06:38 PM (HMQ8k)

68 hey

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 25, 2013 06:38 PM (Z9EHQ)

69 @23 This!
The standard history curriculum needs to show that Tet '68 wiped out the Cong b/c we did that. After Tet, it was the NVA, 'way geoplitical, and Jane Fonda/Walter Cronkite.
Cronkite is coals for the newly-arrived's marshmallow roasting in Hell (before Satan determines their eternal torture... it's his whimsy, which adds to the torture). Fonda is still alive, married to a media magnate, never been tried for treason, nor kidnapped and drowned in retribution in the pool surrounding that B-52. Others from that era and ilk run the government, mentor tomorrow's leaders, and live with impunity in the Republic they still seek to destroy.
Y'all still got your shovels?

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 06:39 PM (1V6Pv)

70 wow just watching these chicks do yoga relaxes me Namaste, btw.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 06:39 PM (DlaLh)

71 Was there ever anyone cooler? whew! Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 10:38 PM (8lmkt) *ahem*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 06:39 PM (GEICT)

72 My favorite Steve McQueen film is LeMans. I'm a huge endurance sportscar racing fan and the 24 Hours of Le Mans is the biggest race in the world. How they shot the racing scenes (and they were lots and lots of those) was amazing considering this was made in the early 70's and the camera's were huge.  A great racing flick.

Posted by: puddleglum at March 25, 2013 06:39 PM (/LnoO)

73 Y5!!!  'sup, buddy?

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 06:39 PM (8lmkt)

74 A friend of mine spent time  at the Hanoi Hilton. Grim shit...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 06:39 PM (aDwsi)

75 exhale to chair pose...

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 06:39 PM (xIzGn)

76 @ 66 stay off the Mexican $$$ Thats a grassroot start..Later.

Posted by: clemenza at March 25, 2013 06:40 PM (HMQ8k)

77 Fuckin Nixon and LBJ armchair generals to the end fuckers killed some of the best of society. No justice.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 25, 2013 06:40 PM (/Z7MT)

78 Isn't there a *MUCH* simpler way to handle gun "background" checks?

Simply require the purchaser show a photo ID, and require the states to put something on their official state ID if the person with the ID has lost his/her right to possess a firearm?

Then a background check is easy on everyone except for former felons...no?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2013 06:40 PM (zPVBH)

79

Not exactly a regular commenter here, but something I thought I'd share....

 

I applied for a special agent position with the FBI and today received an e-mail that due to the sequester, there will be no Phase I testing for the position until the budgetary issues are "resolved". 

 

Make of that what you will.

Posted by: La Mauvaise New Yorkaise at March 25, 2013 06:41 PM (I8mbz)

80 67 I am off to Dewars Land before I get BAn Hammered over the effen Illegals and N Word priviledged..
Posted by: clemenza at March 25, 2013 10:38 PM (HMQ8k)


That's a wise decision.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 25, 2013 06:41 PM (pAlYe)

81 PEACHES! I am engaged in mortal combat with o r v i s.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 25, 2013 06:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

82 If ace had a PO box or other drop point, I would gladly make a donation Wrapped in plain brown paper Clearly marked, "NOT PENIS CREAM"

Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 06:42 PM (I2LwF)

83 I don't know about all this federal regulations nonsense but as a pilot who has had a laser pointer aimed at me whilst trying to land and fight a nasty crosswind at the same time, I have to say I wouldn't be sorry to see them go.

Posted by: STV at March 25, 2013 06:42 PM (tr+QE)

84 La Mauvaise New Yorkaise

Welcome!  Are you a lurker or what?

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 06:42 PM (8lmkt)

85 79
Not exactly a regular commenter here, but something I thought I'd share....

I applied for a special agent position with the FBI and today received an e-mail that due to the sequester, there will be no Phase I testing for the position until the budgetary issues are "resolved".

Make of that what you will.
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Seems there is other hiring going on..., I mean aside from Paris hotels

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 06:42 PM (aDwsi)

86 66 Hopeless,

I really am going to go to bed in a bit so we may not have this out properly...

I get what you are sayig, I even suspect on a strategic level you are correct but Hopeless I am not in the mood to becomne Tammany GOP to Donkey Tammany...

you simply cannot out donk the donk and be true to the economic ideals I don't just prefer but hold as dearly as a borderline secular faith.

A GOP Tammany will be every bit the evil a mule Tammany is...

it will by its very nature add bullshit specious 'rules and regulations" and grift productive resources from proper flow.

I'd rather die staring at a dead volcano in Texas than be part of that valley of shit.

I am not writing that as a personal reproach to you, I simply want no part of our freeshit cannoning the left.

I'd rather leave the country than do that.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:43 PM (LRFds)

87 Simply require the purchaser show a photo ID, and require the states to put something on their official state ID if the person with the ID has lost his/her right to possess a firearm?

DHS's "Real ID" shit that's coming in a few years.

The left ain't spun up to max RPM's on it yet.  They're gonna be gobsmacked when they see what's coming.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 06:43 PM (/gHaE)

88 SpaceX's Dragon is scheduled to unberth from the ISS early Tuesday morning and return to Earth. NASA TV coverage will begin at 4:00 am EDT, with release scheduled for 7:06 am. I don't know whether I'll be able to get up that early on a work morning. They may have to do it without me. West Coast morons may have a better chance by just staying up late. NASA's coverage ends at 7:30 am EDT, and then Dragon will perform its deorbit burn at 11:40, followed by splashdown at 12:36 pm EDT. I don't know whether any live coverage is planned for that. There wasn't any last time. Of course, everything will be liveblogged at NASASpaceflight.com. http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31458.0

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2013 06:43 PM (sdi6R)

89 The Feds should freeze all hiring until the budget is balanced.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 06:44 PM (vyPsz)

90  

   Vietnam was my war.


     All I have to say on that is one of my life goals is living long enough to piss on John Kerry's grave.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 25, 2013 06:44 PM (SAMxH)

91 "Now listen, you queer, stop calling me a NaZi or I'll sock you in the G-d face and you'll stay plastered."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ktbnz

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 06:44 PM (1V6Pv)

92 Hopeless: that is exactly what I and my partner are doing now in SE mass. Community organizing for the right. We're also putting the Colorado system in place as soon as we can. Next step: get jobs as adjunct college professors... Seriously Teach history and polisci the right way

Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 06:44 PM (I2LwF)

93 I can't speak for other states, but I can for Tennessee; I worked for a gun store there a couple of years ago.  When the NICS check is run in TN, the information is put into an online interface directly from the 4473.  Everything you put on the 4473: full name, address, birth date, birth city/state, and information from your ID (e.g. driver's license state and number) goes in.  That info is then transmitted to TBI, which actually runs the check.  TBI also charges the FFL $10 to run the check, which of course the FFL charges the customer.  When the status comes back (usually within 10 minutes) it's pretty much a GO/NO GO proposition.  It will only indicate approved, not approved, or hold.  It does not tell the FFL why there is a hold or non-approval.  It is up to the firearm purchaser to contact TBI to find out why they were either not approved or put on a hold status.  Bottom line is, you really don't get much information when running a NICS check for a firearm purchase through an FFL (at least, in TN).

Posted by: Country Singer at March 25, 2013 06:44 PM (CgcOa)

94 What you know about basketball??

Posted by: Allen Iverson at March 25, 2013 06:44 PM (+iA5G)

95 88 SpaceX's Dragon is scheduled to unberth from the ISS early Tuesday morning and return to Earth. ........
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Is the pick-up handled by Navy?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 06:45 PM (aDwsi)

96 Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 10:42 PM (I2LwF)

Oh, yay, Tru!!!  I've been looking for you ever since the other night when we were talking about the origins of New England and, of course, America.  There's a book I wanted to recommend and I finally spotted it on the shelves.  It is amazing.  Riveting.  Nathaniel Philbrick "Mayflower."  I promise you will love it! 

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 06:45 PM (8lmkt)

97 Posted by: otho at March 25, 2013 10:38 PM (yBF/9) Whoa dude. Slow down. You forgot about My Lai.

Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 06:45 PM (sqp6o)

98 We don't have to become Tammany. We just have to steal a good chunk of theirs. Like I said earlier, every one of yours you get in place is like stealing two of theirs.

Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 06:45 PM (I2LwF)

99 Have we ever gone truly all-out since Linebacker II?

Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 06:46 PM (+iA5G)

100 Iron granpa ill pay for your trip man. Nuke it from space to be sure. Zombies and all you know.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 25, 2013 06:46 PM (/Z7MT)

101 Hi Peaches! Thank you. Gonna look it p right now

Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 06:46 PM (I2LwF)

102 Fuckin Nixon and LBJ armchair generals to the end fuckers killed some of the best of society. No justice. Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 25, 2013 10:40 PM (/Z7MT) The sad thing is that the fall of Saigon was defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. After '73, all South Vietnam needed was basic American support. No need for a draft. No need for Americans at all except some specialized support rolls compared to what we were involved in before. The Easter offensive was a defeat for the Communist Vietnamese in '73, and was won primarily by the South Vietnamese with that basic American support. When the left got huge majorities in '74, they yanked all military and financial help. With the rug taken away beneath them, the North Vietnamese waltzed right in. If we had just provided that basic support, South Vietnam would have been better off today than South Korea was. South Vietnam would be the "tiger" of Southeast Asia and her people free and prosperous. Millions dead or "re-educated" is the legacy of the anti-Watergate Democrats.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 25, 2013 06:46 PM (Vk2pI)

103 there will be no Phase I testing for the position until the budgetary issues are "resolved".
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Our international Bahamian outreach program doesn't pay for itself you know.

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 25, 2013 06:46 PM (zPVBH)

104 New war I say

Good for the economy

Posted by: Lick at March 25, 2013 06:46 PM (PTA3L)

105 OK, the vid of my devastatingly cute poodle is back up. It takes two clicks. "Brett Farve" owes my employer a new ginormous monitor.... link in nic

Posted by: Crocs™Jackson (old new content up) at March 25, 2013 06:47 PM (JMmQ9)

106 Millions dead or "re-educated" is the legacy of the anti-Watergate Democrats.
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Hey, but Nixon used the government against his political enemies.

Uh, but in a different way then JFK, LBK, and BJ Clinton.

And really, don't we have enough Asians in Asia anyway?

Posted by: Some Liberal at March 25, 2013 06:47 PM (zPVBH)

107

You don't need to register an account to donate to Ace through PayPal.  All you need is a CC#.

Posted by: In Exile at March 25, 2013 06:48 PM (0401c)

108 Well, I'm 17th out of 40 in my office pool. My western bracket absolutely cratered. I have Louisville over Indiana in the final, but I'm starting to get this Kansas might beat Louisville along the way vibe.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 06:48 PM (bS6uW)

109 98 Truman North,

that they got their Pretty Little hate Machine going again speaks volumes to the efficacy of the bush administration frankly.

TN I hate the DeLay K street mob as much as the Pelosi brand....
I wish you luck I guess but I want a cleaner system not a better GOP gumming up of the works.

It is in the end my one "idealistic dreamer" thing I suppose.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:48 PM (LRFds)

110 All I have to say on that is one of my life goals is living long enough to piss on John Kerry's grave.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 25, 2013 10:44 PM (SAMxH)


That just made the patented Peaches prayer list, my friend!  And if there is any way I can help, you just let me know.  xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 06:48 PM (8lmkt)

111 Isn't there a *MUCH* simpler way to handle gun "background" checks? Simply require the purchaser show a photo ID, and require the states to put something on their official state ID if the person with the ID has lost his/her right to possess a firearm? Then a background check is easy on everyone except for former felons...no? Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2013 10:40 PM (zPVBH) If they can't be trusted with a gun, then why aren't they still in jail?

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 25, 2013 06:48 PM (Vk2pI)

112 The Feds should freeze all hiring until the budget is balanced.
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That's pretty damn good - might not have been a bad line for Mittens to use on the campaign path.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2013 06:49 PM (zPVBH)

113 VC/NVA had a name for the B-52, can't remember what is was. Something to do with the fact that 500lb bombs could suddenly be dropping on you from the clear blue sky.

Posted by: Javems at March 25, 2013 06:49 PM (c8xU9)

114 95 Is the pick-up handled by Navy? Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 10:45 PM (aDwsi) Nope! SpaceX hires an oceangoing salvage ship with a couple of rubber boats. In the past, NASA has provided a land-based P-3 Orion spotter plane. That's the entire recovery force. Dragon can land on a dime. It's much cheaper than the aircraft carrier task forces that were used in the Apollo area.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2013 06:50 PM (sdi6R)

115 99 Have we ever gone truly all-out since Linebacker II? Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 10:46 PM (+iA5G) Any country terrified of us?

Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 06:50 PM (sqp6o)

116 If they can't be trusted with a gun, then why aren't they still in jail?
***
You've heard of the American justice system right...where a year in prison for rape reduces news anchors to tears...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2013 06:50 PM (zPVBH)

117 You poor poor soul.


Here, have a special brownie. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 10:35 PM (GEICT)



nomnomnom


Oh, I loved doing it, I got to tell people what to do and they absolutely had to (pretend to) listen to me and do what I said.  As I'm sure will shock the Horde, that is one of my very favorite things in the world.


The only time it became in issue was when I was asked to do a training class for the paralegals and the Big Boss's wife flipped out because she adamantly refused to believe that training during office hours was anything but a waste.  I went to the Big Boss and negotiated a two hour training session from 4-6 and I offered to spring for the pizza for dinner.   This was a not inconsiderable cost since there were 20+ people coming.   He said fine and so I worked after hours for three weeks getting everything ready and making a booklet up and the whole nine yards.  The day before the session, the Big Boss pulls me aside and announces he was cancelling it because the women with kids came to him and gave a sob story about how disruptive and inconvenient it was.   It's important to note that I was the only single woman with no children in the entire office.   I.   Lost.   My.  Shit.   Seriously lost my shit at him and went on a good 10 minute rant about how I didn't want to hear about how they had husbands and kids because I had absolutely no one, not a single soul within 100 miles of me, who was available to help me with anything.   Laundry, shopping, picking up dry cleaning, shoveling snow, taking the car in, it was all on me with no one to help and I did not want to hear about how hard they had it to stay until 6 when I hadn't left the office before 9 in three weeks or so.  It ended up with me bursting out rage crying, which was even more humiliating than it sounds.  To his credit, he admitted he'd never thought of that and put his foot down and made the training from 3-5 one day the next week.   I did yank my offer of pizza though.

God, I do not miss that job at all. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 06:51 PM (Gk3SS)

118 Sven, I get what you're saying. I'm not talking about FSAing, so much as recognizing that the left has whole structures in place that hire hundreds/thousands of fresh young folks to be professional leftists. It trains them, etc, and then transitions them to jobs afterwards with employers who support the left by only hiring other leftists. I'm not talking about the obscene government side of it, which I'm very familiar with (like AmeriCorps). I'm talking about, say, some of the enviro groups that hire people using private dollars to send them around the country all year teaching other people how to be more leftists, etc. The wealthy of the left fund this stuff because they know it's part of getting and keeping power-- building infrastructure nationwide.

Posted by: Hopeless at March 25, 2013 06:51 PM (g2ruq)

119 @83 I know, right, with all those people aboard.
Just imagine you're swimming a river to get to a certain point on the opposite bank.
Set the rear gear down, and stomp the rudder to bring the nose over before you bring the attitude down.
Easy-peasey! It's not a carrier landing.
Or a re-supply of Lima Site 85.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 06:51 PM (1V6Pv)

120 All your brackets belong to us!!

Posted by: Florida Gulf Coast University at March 25, 2013 06:51 PM (/LnoO)

121 Can someone remind me why Jane Fonda hasn't been hanged yet?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 06:51 PM (IDSI7)

122 Apollo era, not area.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2013 06:51 PM (sdi6R)

123 If they can't be trusted with a gun, then why aren't they still in jail?

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 25, 2013 10:48 PM (Vk2pI)

 

 

I have repeated this sentiment, well, repeatedly. Shall not be infringed. sounds simple to me!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 25, 2013 06:52 PM (UrENZ)

124 Feeding the Moronettes http://is.gd/78sdlh

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 06:52 PM (8sCoq)

125

Last night's ONT Jones in CO linked to a Pron Star Name Generator. Here's some politicians names.

 

Barack Obama-Doctor Assmaster

 

Michelle Obama-Tonya Pantsmaster, Esq.

 

Joe Biden-Ronnie Pimplebutt

 

Albert Gore-Humpy Pickle. If he was pet-Hamster Anus

 

John F. Kerry-Mister Looselips

 

Chuck Hagel-Pud Slickbooty

 

Bill Clinton-Maxx Spunky

 

Hillary Clinton-Mandi Muffmuncher

 

Mayor Bloomberg-Doctor Bangz

 

and from NBC, Brian Williams-Harly Spreadum

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 25, 2013 06:52 PM (PBm/l)

126 You don't need to register an account to donate to Ace through PayPal. All you need is a CC#.

Posted by: In Exile at March 25, 2013 10:48 PM (0401c)


I have never registered on paypal.  I have hit the tip jar numerous times, you just click the box where you wish to use paypal as a one-time guest or whatever.  I get a little irked when I see all these peeps saying, oh, I need to have an address for Ace and I will send a check.  OTOH, I am very easily irked.

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 06:52 PM (8lmkt)

127 I can not stand paypal, I dont want to delve into details...

Posted by: Lick at March 25, 2013 06:52 PM (PTA3L)

128 96 Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 10:42 PM (I2LwF)

Oh, yay, Tru!!! I've been looking for you ever since the other night when we were talking about the origins of New England and, of course, America. There's a book I wanted to recommend and I finally spotted it on the shelves. It is amazing. Riveting. Nathaniel Philbrick "Mayflower." I promise you will love it!
Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 10:45 PM
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Ancestry assures me (kinda) that Stephen Hopkins and Myles Standish are my 10th grandfathers

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 06:52 PM (aDwsi)

129
Apparently you've never checked out who runs Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. The black, Hispanic and gay armies run these cities now.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 10:36 PM (bS6uW)


That is any decent sized city in any state in the US.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 06:52 PM (Zd/NW)

130 All I have to say on that is one of my life goals is living long enough to piss on John Kerry's grave. I sincerely hope you have that chance. I'd like to say it's hard to believe we've entrusted someone like that with a job as important as SOS at this critical juncture, but I'm not surprised. Hating America is apparently a core requirement for a job in the Obama Administration. What Kerry did during and after your war is unforgivable.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 06:52 PM (bS6uW)

131 Huge Block of Words

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 06:53 PM (DlaLh)

132 Here, have a special brownie.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 10:35 PM (GEICT)

Oh, me me me me me!!!!!  You are so much hotter than Steve McQueen.  I bet he always wished he could be you.  I can haz special brownie now??? 

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 06:53 PM (8lmkt)

133 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 10:51 PM (Gk3SS) You should've released the ravage on them.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 06:53 PM (GEICT)

134 Jay shes a hero to the fucked up left the bitch. Only redeeming thing is hercooter is drier than death valley. Live long and die a miserable death you traitor bitch.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 25, 2013 06:54 PM (/Z7MT)

135 DHS's "Real ID" shit that's coming in a few years.

The left ain't spun up to max RPM's on it yet. They're gonna be gobsmacked when they see what's coming.
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 10:43 PM



That's the rush on "comprehensive immigration reform."  Gotta get the illegals normalized so they can't be found and deported.

Posted by: huerfano at March 25, 2013 06:54 PM (bAGA/)

136 Regardng abortion--while at this time I cannot support prohibiting abortion before brain activity, it does seem to me that as time goes on and man progresses, we will be able to delve deeper into the physical nature of the universe--what causes electromagnetic energy, zero point energy, things we cannot even begin to speculate on---we might be able to detect one day if a soul exists, for it might. Naturally, in that case, we should cease and desist. But until then I think we are okay. We are but children in the universe, and children at some point must be allowed to think for themselves if they are to grow. The key is to make decisions in good faith, not based on convienence. A lot of evil has been done in the world because it was convienient. And a special shout-out to Karolus Caluus. I bet my megaphone will be bigger one day.

Posted by: H. at March 25, 2013 06:54 PM (HoxZS)

137 re: Die Trying.  You are confusing Linebacker II with Rolling Thunder.  When the Thuds and later the Phantoms would lift off from Tahkli and/or Utapao in Thailand there were certain routes they would take to go downtown in Route Pack VI.  And when routes become known the enemy starts planning.  Another issue that afflicted the USAF was the 'missile is king' mindset which meant men like Bud Day and Robin Olds saw the fighter pilot mentality vanish to be replaced by switchology and checklists.  So NVA MiG-17s and MiG-21s knew the routes and even when all those wonderously complex and expensive war machines would punch off like clockwork their external tanks.  And attack accordingly.

In case anyone is interested about the wreckage of Rose 1 in the pictures.  That is what is left of the bomb bay you are seeing there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 06:55 PM (iGhmo)

138 Hey morons, anyone see the new NRA commentator ads? http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=34744 Yeah, they did endorse Harry Reid, but they're LEAGUES above the Republican party as far as cultural awareness goes. This is why gun control is the only winning conservative issue!!

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 06:55 PM (csi6Y)

139

Bronstein? Bronstein? Where have I heard that name before?

 

Oh yes, that's right. Lev Bronstein. Aka Leon Trotsky.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 06:55 PM (IDSI7)

140 129
Apparently you've never checked out who runs
Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio. The black, Hispanic and gay
armies run these cities now.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 10:36 PM (bS6uW)

That is any decent sized city in any state in the US.
Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 10:52 PM
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Atlanta, Charlotte. Beware, BTW, Obama about to appoint Foxx of Charlotte as Sec. Transportation. Foxx was co-chair of the convention, stiffed the taxpayers for $10 million. Not that it would be a crony pay-off....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 06:55 PM (aDwsi)

141 Yah that Esquire/Shooter story smelled like shit. But I think Esquire knew damn well what it was doing.

Posted by: obamuh at March 25, 2013 06:55 PM (QPZ01)

142 Oh, me me me me me!!!!! You are so much hotter than Steve McQueen. I bet he always wished he could be you. I can haz special brownie now??? Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 10:53 PM (8lmkt) I doubt your sincerity, but hell, here's two. You're gonna be hungry again in a bit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 06:56 PM (GEICT)

143 If they can't be trusted with a gun, then why aren't they still in jail? Posted by: The Political Hat at March 25, 2013 10:48 PM (Vk2pI) They can get driver's licenses, buy gas, various chemicals, chains and padlocks... Let's face it, it's a dangerous world, and politicians aren't going to fix that. They regularly make it worse, however. How many hijackings were there before carrying a gun on a plane was illegal?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 06:56 PM (bxiXv)

144 Is it just me?  ...or does the ONT seem especially unhinged tonight? NTTAWWT

Just askin'

As you were.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 25, 2013 06:56 PM (4Mv1T)

145 I'm getting a little worried about Fish. He is/was a pilot during Viet Nam and he'd really like this post. Where are you, Fish?

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 06:56 PM (39q3n)

146 it's still Challenge: Ewok; Password: Pudding, right?

Posted by: AltonJackson (old new content up) at March 25, 2013 06:56 PM (JMmQ9)

147 ExSnipe, there's some good ones in there

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 06:57 PM (8sCoq)

148 We have Communists up and down in the White House and the new Sec of State called the people who died in that plane baby killers and the evil that some like them did to the Vietcongs. People are more worried about the TV show than the history of the communists in the White House and what they are going to do next. We have had people on the floor of congress say nice things about the VietCongs and not to nice things about the vets who came back from what ever war they came from.

Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at March 25, 2013 06:57 PM (jOPzC)

149 Bronstein? Bronstein? Where have I heard that name before? Oh yes, that's right. Lev Bronstein. Aka Leon Trotsky. Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 10:55 PM (IDSI7) What? Couldn't hear you. Got something stuck in my ear...

Posted by: Leon Trotsky at March 25, 2013 06:58 PM (Vk2pI)

150 118 Hopeless,

You're making a false distinction.

They have fused their enviro nuts and other nuts into an inside/outside double bind game of "drain the evil swamp"....

EPA and IRS are not giving classes to Donk protected classes on how to successfully sue them because the game is dutch in any way shape or form.

The wealthy of the left gave seed money to support the salad days and then magically once they got enough inside their FreeShit Militia became a self-funding community chest laundering donation mechanism.

Yes it "would be nice" if magically we had Gajillionaires who would fund this shit and not hamstring the economic engine of the nation to fund their bonfire of the vanities but that is misreading what the structure we face is and how its revenue stream flows....

DonkA$$MoFo doesn't spend money donating to Moonatd causes he makes money by controlling the rigged game lock stock and two smoking bores...

it's be like hiring AlexTheChick to regulate stompy boots, or me rigging a game that paid me by the post here....

that IS WHAT EPA IS a self-contained donk printing press of money and coercive shakedown potential.....


Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 06:58 PM (LRFds)

151 John F. Kerry-Mister Looselips
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 25, 2013 10:52 PM



Not possible.  Lurch has no lips.  They've been botoxed out of existence.

Posted by: huerfano at March 25, 2013 06:59 PM (bAGA/)

152 Steve McQueen w/kitteh http://is.gd/MR0p7k

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 06:59 PM (8sCoq)

153 :::: The wealthy of the left fund this stuff because they know it's part of getting and keeping power-- building infrastructure nationwide. :::: That got me thinking that when a leftist signs up for one of these groups, people say, "oh how sweet, he/she is trying to make a difference" When a conservative joins up with one of their groups, it's "he/she is setting out to shill for corporate interests" Maybe a little bit of that is our fault, and there should be more groups in the conservative name for the purpose of helping people. Job training, teaching, building stuff for African kids, whatever.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 06:59 PM (csi6Y)

154 That Trotsky fella was a Joo.

Posted by: Ploppy at March 25, 2013 07:00 PM (cvrr4)

155

What?

Couldn't hear you. Got something stuck in my ear...

 

Good job, too. Too bad it didn't happen a lot sooner.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 07:00 PM (IDSI7)

156 You should've released the ravage on them. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 10:53 PM (GEICT)


These are the same people who came to me with a 45 minute long video tape and asked me to convert it to mp4 format 20 minutes before the thing they needed it for.  When I said that I could not do that, I got yelled at about how I always refused to help out and constantly gave excuses for why I wouldn't do things.   Mind you, it was 6:40 p.m. when this happened.   When I then tried to explain that it was physically impossible for me to capture the video in that time frame, I was asked, in all seriousness, why I couldn't just hit fast forward and capture it like that. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 07:00 PM (Gk3SS)

157 You're gonna be hungry again in a bit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 10:56 PM (GEICT)

I try to stay a little hungry all the time.  But, yeah, I get your drift.  You're the best.  I would hug you all over if I had half a chance. 

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:01 PM (8lmkt)

158 Me?

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at March 25, 2013 07:01 PM (cvrr4)

159 Regarding the Steve McQueen picture above, when revolvers are outlawed only outlaws will have revolvers.
When POWS are incarcerated, only escapees will jump motorcycles.
When race cars go 68 mph on their lesbian lubricated fisting queef power units, only outlaws will have race cars.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 07:02 PM (1V6Pv)

160 Soothsayer.
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2005/11/breaking-milk-bottles.html

Another area where Nixon stuck it to North Vietnam was Operation Pocket Money.  When the US Navy dropped aerial mines that strangled the Communist supply line to North Vietnam.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 07:03 PM (iGhmo)

161 "...and then transitions them to jobs afterwards with employers who support the left by only hiring other leftists."

I see we are discussing Disney! OK, then.

Posted by: navybrat at March 25, 2013 07:03 PM (S8AWK)

162 Hell, my first day at my most recent job, nearly the first thing a new co-worker said to me was "I couldn't find your facebook". I smiled ever so sweetly and replied "And that is exactly why I don't have one."

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 10:32 PM (Gk3SS)


speaking of facebook, I guess Mark Zuckerman is gong to invest millions and become political (immigration) etc.


hell what can't facebook do?

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:03 PM (nqBYe)

163 160 Ms Puma,

Imagine if we had had a party that wanted to win the damn thing from 1960-1968 eh?

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 07:04 PM (LRFds)

164

http://is.gd/78sdlh

 

Be still my heart.  Thanks Jones

Posted by: Infidel at March 25, 2013 07:04 PM (gqEUi)

165

To do list:

  1. Buy another new gun... looking for a good bolt action .223 (any recommendations?)

  2. Buy more ammo.

  3. Wait patiently...for the burning times.

  4. Repeat1-2 with slight modifications. As. Necessary.

  5. Wait patiently...for the burning times.

 

  Etc. etc. and so forth....

Posted by: confiscate my 401k at your own risk at March 25, 2013 07:04 PM (2ykTc)

166

If anyone wants a good read about the Viet Nam Veterans and how their heroes and history was robbed, I recommend "Stolen Valor" by B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley.

 

After reading it if you don't want to strangle a leftist then you have no soul.

 

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 25, 2013 07:05 PM (PBm/l)

167 Truman, I think it's a great thing you're doing. Just trying to brainstorm a way to counter the shadow patronage. I think you're spot on regarding government patronage. Lets say we wanted a grass roots organizing for Massachusetts, how do we fund 10 professional conservatives to go around and do professional conservative things? As I try and wargame this out in my mind, I'm seeing what a major role the various Foundations play in this. All the non-gov funded things like this I've seen on the left have a major foundation component. That "million dollar" grant you read about in the paper to help fight bulkshit cause XYZ? (which is really 1mil a year for 3 or 5 years)... That's 20 professional leftists. So, are ANY of the major foundations on our side at all?

Posted by: Hopeless at March 25, 2013 07:05 PM (tKhxE)

168 161 Navybrat,

yeah pretty much....

we should weaponize our money.....

*that* we can do and it does not undermine Capitalism...

the way we're headed we are stuck devolving this nation to the 3d world either way....

the only "correct' answer to that should be "no"

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 07:06 PM (LRFds)

169 These are the same people who came to me with a 45 minute long video tape and asked me to convert it to mp4 format 20 minutes before the thing they needed it for. When I said that I could not do that, I got yelled at about how I always refused to help out and constantly gave excuses for why I wouldn't do things. Mind you, it was 6:40 p.m. when this happened. When I then tried to explain that it was physically impossible for me to capture the video in that time frame, I was asked, in all seriousness, why I couldn't just hit fast forward and capture it like that. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 11:00 PM (Gk3SS) I get similar requests almost every Sunday morning. I run media and sound for church. Guest speakers are the worst. We had one missionary, member of our church, he's OUR missionary, going to speak on a Sunday. He was told that if he had slide notes or videos or any of that, he needed to have it turned in by Wednesday. Church starts at 1015am. He walked up at 950am and says "So I have 3 videos that I have to have for my message to work. One's on this dvd, one's on this usb key and one is on youtube. Thanks." And then turns and walks out. Same dude, not long ago, walks back into the booth after worship has started. We're halfway through song 1 of 4. "Hey, I need you to be able to show this webpage up on the screen while I'm speaking. My sermon doesn't work otherwise." Keep in mind that I had never attempted to do that.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 07:06 PM (GEICT)

170 165
To do list:
1. Buy another new gun... looking for a good bolt action .223 (any recommendations?)
Posted by: confiscate my 401k at your own risk at March 25, 2013 11:04 PM
=====
Like everything..., depends on how much you want to spend, and what you expect  to use it for (the gun)

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 07:06 PM (aDwsi)

171 also I want to go to the Bahamas/ i think it is your guyses duty to see that i have enough funds to go!

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:07 PM (nqBYe)

172 Jeremy Renner is working on a Steve McQueen biopic project-- still in early development it must have motorcycles and cars and a hot babe to play Natalie Wood

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 07:07 PM (8sCoq)

173 only outlaws will have revolvers

And, yet, ladies love outlaws . . .

Here's the original, it's fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8367UyK5pIs

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:09 PM (8lmkt)

174 ExSnipe, start with Ed Miller.  ex-Marine.  Former Phantom pilot.  And a traitor to the United States.

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2010/10/gov-moonbeams-traitor.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 07:09 PM (iGhmo)

175 169

Keep in mind that I had never attempted to do that.

=========
Yup. Been there. "They tell me that what I want is on this DVD"...., says he 5 minutes before the start.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 07:09 PM (aDwsi)

176 When Jerusalem is outlawed, outlaws will bring down Babylon.
"Jerusalem will stand."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/cxuw3xa

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 07:09 PM (1V6Pv)

177 I try to stay a little hungry all the time. But, yeah, I get your drift. You're the best. I would hug you all over if I had half a chance. Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 11:01 PM (8lmkt) The 1981 household is seriously considering getting a hottub for the back yard. Soooo.....the Ettes are always welcome at the 1981 casa!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 07:09 PM (GEICT)

178 170 Mike Hammer,

there's an interesting new gizmo from Mossberg on that front....

http://tinyurl.com/akd6kew

the Mossberg Predator fires legit 5.56 Nato, uses AR-15 mags and is a beaut....

~$513....

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 07:09 PM (LRFds)

179 fgs , what's up with Drudge? i click on two links and they go to inforwars.

sigh.

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:09 PM (nqBYe)

180 Posted by: confiscate my 401k at your own risk at March 25, 2013 11:04 PM (2ykTc)

Take a look at Thompson Center rifles.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 25, 2013 07:10 PM (CgcOa)

181 nevermind, i'll talk to my belly button.

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:11 PM (nqBYe)

182 178 170 Mike Hammer,

there's an interesting new gizmo from Mossberg on that front....

http://tinyurl.com/akd6kew

the Mossberg Predator fires legit 5.56 Nato, uses AR-15 mags and is a beaut....

~$513....
===========
Gee..., you think M'berg sensed a market oportunity?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 07:11 PM (aDwsi)

183

174

AP,

 

I read that on your blog earlier today. He should have been tried and shot.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 25, 2013 07:11 PM (PBm/l)

184 179 It's a conspiracy.

Posted by: Bigfoot at March 25, 2013 07:11 PM (cvrr4)

185 Yup. Been there. "They tell me that what I want is on this DVD"...., says he 5 minutes before the start. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 11:09 PM (aDwsi) Yeah, nothing like "And if you'll look up at the screen..." as about 300 members of the congregation glance up. "Please God let this work Please God let this work...."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 07:11 PM (GEICT)

186 Same dude, not long ago, walks back into the booth after worship has started. We're halfway through song 1 of 4. "Hey, I need you to be able to show this webpage up on the screen while I'm speaking. My sermon doesn't work otherwise."

Keep in mind that I had never attempted to do that. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 11:06 PM (GEICT)



Gah.  Yeah, I have no patience, at all, for people who don't understand tech and who are not willing to show even the teeny tiniest bit of understanding for what it takes to make things run.   Not to mention that if your sermon or speech absolutely requires a prop and you are not presenting say budgetary analysis or the cut away of a new design, then your sermon or speech is a failure.


I keep getting pestered to work with the a/v and computer stuff at my church and I'm running out of polite ways to say no.   Apparently saying I am wholly unfamiliar with Mac systems and have no desire to learn is insufficient.   Though Mommy did manage to explain to someone that telling me that not sharing my gifts with the church community was a damn great way to make sure I stopped going to church for a few weeks.   Let's just say that I do not respond positively to emotional blackmail. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 07:12 PM (Gk3SS)

187 182 Mike Hammer,

well came out last year I think but "heh"....

I'd buy a dozen if I were equipping a squad...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 07:12 PM (LRFds)

188 I grew up in the Navy, and until 1968 we always lived on base, so every one of my friends had fathers (and sometimes mothers) serving.  All of the fathers were either in Vietnam, had come back, or were going to go.  So my early life experience and memories of that war are considerably different from those of the general populace.

Then in the early eighties, I was stationed at Lemoore Naval Air Station, which was the Light Attack base for the Pacific.  Used to fly Spads and Skyhawks, when I was there it was about evenly divided between A-7s and F/A-18s.  The on base housing development was named Alvarez Village, after that guy mentioned in the article.

While I was going to OCS in 19790, my father's last tour was at the Naval War College when Admiral Mark Stockdale was commander there and I got to meet him.  When I was stationed in Korea the Chief of Staff for CNFK was a Captain (Navy O-6) with a Medal of honor and face a composed half of scar tissue, who always made a point of dropping by to see how I was doing.  So yeah, those names are real people for me. 

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at March 25, 2013 07:13 PM (XLQXo)

189 So, where can I get one of these industrial-strength laser pointers?  Anyone got any tips?  Brand names, distributors, etc.  Purely for informational purposes, you understand.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at March 25, 2013 07:13 PM (LbHHd)

190 Finally watching Vikings. My Nordic nads are yelling HELL YEAH.

Posted by: esch at March 25, 2013 07:13 PM (MV6z6)

191 And I can't believe no one has posted this.  Because, like Steve McQueen, all I need's a fast machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlywcuw-1TU

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:14 PM (8lmkt)

192 That Horace Mann story is fucking terrifying. Very well-written, but horrible. That's the kind of story that makes you kind of get some of the helicopter parenting people do.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at March 25, 2013 07:14 PM (OryqQ)

193 Peaches! I don't want you to be irked, for godsakes! I didn't know that you could do one time user on PayPal. I will definitely be more observant and do it. I tend to do things by rote, since that's usually most efficient. Every once in a while, it does fuck me up but I'm ahead in the long run.

Posted by: Kalneva at March 25, 2013 07:14 PM (S+/pH)

194 Jim Carrey: “[Anyone] who would run out to buy an assault rifle after the Newtown massacre has very little left in their body or soul worth protecting.” That's a pretty harsh thing to say about Gabby Giffords' husband.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 07:14 PM (bS6uW)

195 179 It's a conspiracy.

Posted by: Bigfoot at March 25, 2013 11:11 PM (cvrr4)


i guess as we  were all discussing earlier how  tinfoil hat  is  becoming seemingly mainstream these days..


Hell even ron paul can be right occasionally

but info wars?

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:14 PM (nqBYe)

196 nevermind, i'll talk to my belly button.
Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 11:11 PM (nqBYe)



*slides over part of my special brownie*


At least in infowars you know straight up it's batshit.   Zerohedge links may or may not be fine, right up to the point where you read the comments and it's Joooooooos all the way down. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 07:15 PM (Gk3SS)

197 195 Blacksheep,

"oh not him he's golden..."

Jim "AssCheeks" Karry


Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 07:15 PM (LRFds)

198 Has there ever been another actor as cool as Steve McQueen?

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2013 07:15 PM (M/TDA)

199 I didn't know that you could do one time user on PayPal.

Hey, kalneva!!  Big hug, babygirl!!  And, yeah, I don't sign up for shit, but I still hit my favorite ewok on a regular basis via teh paypal.  Easy peasy.

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:16 PM (8lmkt)

200 Mind if I join in? I'm a Viet Nam Vet, you know.

Posted by: John F'n Kerry at March 25, 2013 07:16 PM (l3vZN)

201

Yes, McQueen was smokin' hot.

 

 I watched "Papillion" for the first time about a month ago. Lord what a shithole Devil's Island was. In terms of setting up penal hells in the armpits of the earth, nobody beat the Russkies and the Nazis, but the frogs and the Brits (Norfolk Island, about 1000 miles off the coast of Australia was godawful) set up some really vile holes themselves.

Posted by: Donna V. at March 25, 2013 07:17 PM (R3gO3)

202 Has there ever been another actor as cool as Steve McQueen?

no

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:17 PM (8lmkt)

203 Apparently saying I am wholly unfamiliar with Mac systems and have no desire to learn is insufficient. Though Mommy did manage to explain to someone that telling me that not sharing my gifts with the church community was a damn great way to make sure I stopped going to church for a few weeks. Let's just say that I do not respond positively to emotional blackmail. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 11:12 PM (Gk3SS) I've been back in the booth for about two years. I can't read a single note of music. I'm deaf in one ear. I'd never spent a single second on a Mac. I had not the foggiest clue about running a sound board (i.e. gain levels, volume levels, EQ, house speakers vs wedge speakers, etc.). I'm now running it all by myself. If there's a problem, I'm the go to guy. There was a function in the church the other night and I got a call at 630pm from the pastor asking me to walk him through a problem with the sound board.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 07:18 PM (GEICT)

204 “[Anyone] who would run out to buy an assault rifle after the Newtown massacre has very little left in their body or soul worth protecting.”



Nothing that vaccinations can't solve am I right?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 25, 2013 07:18 PM (NzBQO)

205

hey mike,

 looking to spend between 500-800 or so..... just wondering if any morons own a good .223 bolt action that is accurate 100-200-250 yards or so... no biggy if noone has info- I'm sure I can get someone at the stores to give me their "expert" opinion.... oh yeah, it's for hunting wabbits...wabbits drawn on target paper....   

Posted by: confiscate my 401k at your own risk at March 25, 2013 07:18 PM (2ykTc)

206 *slides over part of my special brownie*


At least in infowars you know straight up it's batshit. Zerohedge links may or may not be fine, right up to the point where you read the comments and it's Joooooooos all the way down.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 11:15 PM (Gk3SS)


mmm brownie, looks at Peaches staying hungry feels bad,  offers half ..takes a bite . 


I know zero hedge has a lot going for it. avoiding comments is often/ MOSTLY - necessary

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:18 PM (nqBYe)

207 187 182 Mike Hammer,

well came out last year I think but "heh"....

I'd buy a dozen if I were equipping a squad...
Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 11:12 PM
=====================
Everyone is having fantasies (they are fantasies,right?) about ripping off fire-fight quantities of semi-auto fire. That piece looks to be ideal for coyotes, ground hogs, etc. I have a project .222 mag (is this being recorded?)

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 25, 2013 07:19 PM (aDwsi)

208 I've been back in the booth for about two years. I can't read a single note of music. I'm deaf in one ear. I'd never spent a single second on a Mac. I had not the foggiest clue about running a sound board (i.e. gain levels, volume levels, EQ, house speakers vs wedge speakers, etc.). I'm now running it all by myself. If there's a problem, I'm the go to guy. There was a function in the church the other night and I got a call at 630pm from the pastor asking me to walk him through a problem with the sound board. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 11:18 PM (GEICT)


See, that's because you're a good person.  


Okay, Horde, I'm throwing in the towel on today.   Please be sure to wipe down all surfaces with that bleach over there once you're done doing those unspeakable things to the blog. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at March 25, 2013 07:20 PM (Gk3SS)

209

111The Feds should freeze all hiring until the budget is balanced.
***
That's pretty damn good - might not have been a bad line for Mittens to use on the campaign path.

 

Hiring Freeze, Pay Freeze, Penzion Freeze, Earmark Freze, Baseline Budgeting Freeze...it would have been useful for Stiff Mitt to say something after the first debate.

Posted by: ALittleEnglish at March 25, 2013 07:20 PM (IAajI)

210 WTF?  It's a crime to film a stupid show at a historic war site?

How bout we stop our imperialist wars and then we won't have any anti-imperialist war memorials to worry about?

Posted by: W.C. Varones at March 25, 2013 07:20 PM (QMAPJ)

211 Good evening. Want to see a vaguely patriotic movie with a dash of "America, Fuck Yeah!" and dastardly villainous villains? I recommend Olympus Has Fallen. Pretty good. It's R rated for language and violence. So Gerard Butler (300) plays a disgraced Secret Service agent who has to save the President, played by Aaron Eckhart (Thank You For Smoking, The Dark Knight, Battle: Los Angeles), after a group of North Korean terrorists infiltrate the White House, kill just about everybody and take over. It's a pretty fun movie, lost of killing and stuff blowing up. According to critics it's more Die Hard than the last Die Hard (though I never saw it) and the premise seems vaguely more plausible than the Red Dawn remake. All told, I give it about 3.5/5 stars. Some good stuff, Aaron Eckhart and his character make the movie for me. Gerard Butler...less so, even though he is the star. Also starring Morgan Freeman as the Speaker/Acting President, Angela Bassett, Dylan McDermott and Melissa Leo and directed by Antoine Fuqua.

Posted by: Robert at March 25, 2013 07:20 PM (LUnTP)

212 Peaches- that's a great vid-- it even has sideboob you know your morons well

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 07:20 PM (8sCoq)

213

Over at Twitchy, I saw that Donna Brazile said that the NRA's solution to every problem is to shoot it.

 

Judging from Brazile's picture, she thinks the solution to every problem is to eat it.

Posted by: Donna V. at March 25, 2013 07:20 PM (R3gO3)

214 So, uh, this is OT but are there any Mactards out here?  Because I got a new iMac and it hasn't gone fubar yet and I need to scrub the old one, but the disk drive has been fubar for years on that, so I need the scrub/reinstall thingie in some other format.  I'd be forever grateful.  e me at carolinvenice at teh hooyah if you can help.  TIA!

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:21 PM (8lmkt)

215 nite alex, sleep well.

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:21 PM (nqBYe)

216 Oh, and if you happen to walk into a Big Lots and happen to see a Heart CD, Jupiter's Darling, on sale for $5 bucks? Just say "fuck it" and pick it up. Good stuff.

Posted by: Robert at March 25, 2013 07:21 PM (LUnTP)

217 Le Mauvaise New Yorkaise - sorry to hear you got bad news from the Bureau, but there might be another way to get to an entering class at Quantico, if you're prepared to work in another capacity for a while:  try the Investigative Support and Surveillance track, where you've got the choice of Investigative Specialist or Surveillance Specialist to choose from.  (Details here:  https://www.fbijobs.gov/127.asp)  Both are oriented more towards careers ending up  in the FBI's National Security branch, and a number of folks have moved from a few years in that job description to acceptance for Special Agent training. 

Posted by: A. Pendragon at March 25, 2013 07:21 PM (wJliR)

218 be advised- we have zips in the wire @ 211

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 07:21 PM (8sCoq)

219 Time for the old folk.  Too many bad memories tonite.

      May God bless all our heroes, past and present.


        Goodnite, good people.    Stay safe.
    

Posted by: irongrampa at March 25, 2013 07:21 PM (SAMxH)

220 >Has there ever been another actor as cool as Steve McQueen? Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2013 11:15 PM (M/TDA) James Garner had some cool

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 25, 2013 07:22 PM (8sCoq)

221 we should weaponize our money..... Been doin' that, sven, I have more ammo than the three closest Wal-marts combined

Posted by: AltonJackson (old new content up) at March 25, 2013 07:22 PM (JMmQ9)

222 g'night, IronGrampa

Posted by: AltonJackson (old new content up) at March 25, 2013 07:23 PM (JMmQ9)

223 190 Finally watching Vikings. My Nordic nads are yelling HELL YEAH.

Posted by: esch at March 25, 2013 11:13 PM (MV6z6)


--Not a bad show, eh?

Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 07:23 PM (+iA5G)

224

Haven't had any good news on the political front for a while.  Found something that made me happy, thought I'd share.  According to the Blaze, Paul, Cruz, and Mike Lee are sending a letter to Harry Reid (Pederast, Nevada) stating they will oppose preceding on any bill which restricts the second ammendment.  I think this means filibuster. 

Posted by: Simon Jester at March 25, 2013 07:23 PM (EhSF0)

225 Peaches, if the old hard drive is toast bust it up with a hammer, then cut up the platters with some tin-snips.

Posted by: Jerry at March 25, 2013 07:23 PM (4SKYj)

226 217 Oh, and if you happen to walk into a Big Lots and happen to see a Heart CD, Jupiter's Darling, on sale for $5 bucks? Just say "fuck it" and pick it up. Good stuff. Posted by: Robert at March 25, 2013 11:21 PM (LUnTP) They're on tour now.

Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 07:24 PM (sqp6o)

227 208 Mike Hammer,

Heh coyotes with engine blocks...

yeah no I like the  Predator b/c I have several AR mags and a boy to teach to shoot.
The main thing I learned about rapid fire is while very useful it is not a panacea and definitely not easy to learn to use well.

I want the boy to learn to break broomsticks before he learns to spray and pray.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 07:24 PM (LRFds)

228 Yeah usually the person who wins the tournament challenge fills out about ten brackets. This year it will probably be a Florida Gulf Coast alum.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 25, 2013 07:24 PM (NzBQO)

229 I know it's not PC to say this, but does anyone else wish the Viet Cong had kept McCain?

Posted by: W.C. Varones at March 25, 2013 07:25 PM (QMAPJ)

230 'Night, gramps!!!  Love you and God bless.

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:25 PM (8lmkt)

231 212 WC Varones,

so by "we" you mean since McKinley "The democrats" yes?

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 07:25 PM (LRFds)

232 Yeah smelling that rotted fish sauce smell tonight.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 07:25 PM (iGhmo)

233 Goodnite, good people. Stay safe. Posted by: irongrampa at March 25, 2013 11:21 PM (SAMxH) Brohug, Abuelito. You're a good man, sir.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 07:26 PM (bS6uW)

234 JackStraw is another MIA maroon.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Righteous & Harmonious Fists at March 25, 2013 07:26 PM (OZ9Xn)

235 Thanks, Jerry, but the old hard drive works just fine.  I just want to recycle the hardware.  Plus, it's not like a PC, where you can just loosen a couple screws and yank the hard drive.  I really would like to get it out of my apartment, though.

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:27 PM (8lmkt)

236 I watched "Papillion" for the first time about a month ago. Lord what a shithole Devil's Island was. In terms of setting up penal hells in the armpits of the earth, nobody beat the Russkies and the Nazis, but the frogs and the Brits (Norfolk Island, about 1000 miles off the coast of Australia was godawful) set up some really vile holes themselves.

 

Posted by: Donna V. at March 25, 2013 11:17 PM

 

Norfolk Island was bad. Very bad. But it was like a scout camp compared to Macquarie Harbour. Hell. On. Earth. A virtual death sentence. The only thing worse than Macquarie Harbour, was escaping from Macquarie Harbour.

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2013 07:27 PM (yBF/9)

237 It's what I like to call "the most depressing slide I've ever created." In almost every country you look at, the peak in real estate prices has coincided – give or take literally a couple of years – with the peak in the inverse dependency ratio (the proportion of population of working age relative to old and young).

In the past, we all levered up, bought a big house, enjoyed capital gains tax-free, lived in the thing, and then, when the kids grew up and left home, we sold it to someone in our children's generation. Unfortunately, that doesn't work so well when there start to be more pensioners than workers.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 25, 2013 07:27 PM (e8kgV)

238 Jones: no match for 211, but the database is old

Posted by: AltonJackson (old new content up) at March 25, 2013 07:28 PM (JMmQ9)

239 Peaches, There is software for scrubbing it, but formatting it twice usually works.

Posted by: Jerry at March 25, 2013 07:28 PM (4SKYj)

240 Oh, anyone want some new Queensryche? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w4RfoUv9KU

Posted by: Robert at March 25, 2013 07:28 PM (LUnTP)

241 Hey you fooking Viet Minh copulating aftebirth.  Go hug a Claymore so I can click it...

Or do you like your VC lover to take your broken arms and hang you from the rafters.  So you feel your shattered bones pulling apart followed by your shoulders dislocating.  While they use a rubber hose cut into a flail to turn your fat a** into hamburger.

Delenda Est and get the ban hammer stat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 07:29 PM (iGhmo)

242 :::: 193 That Horace Mann story is fucking terrifying. Very well-written, but horrible. That's the kind of story that makes you kind of get some of the helicopter parenting people do. :::: WOW. You're right. The Reporter at Large feature is always worth reading.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 07:29 PM (csi6Y)

243 Late to the party so I missed the previous thread

Notice that Jim Carrey's video mocks the "shitkicker redneck" type as it's very safe for Hollywood hypocrites to do so. It wasn't a shitkicker who shot up Newtown or Columbine, those were suburban losers with liberal parents. Carrey certainly wouldn't mock minority gangbangers who kill toddlers in their strollers.

Most of those gun deaths Jim Carrey laments are minorities shooting other minorities in the inner cities, not some guy named Billy Bob pulling a Bushmaster off the rack on his pickup truck


Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 07:29 PM (mCvL4)

244 211 WTF? It's a crime to film a stupid show at a historic war site?

How bout we stop our imperialist wars and then we won't have any anti-imperialist war memorials to worry about?

Posted by: W.C. Varones at March 25, 2013 11:20 PM (QMAPJ)


--So, pray tell, what was the imperialist plan for America to exploit Viet Nam?


Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 07:29 PM (+iA5G)

245 Got a musical question for any musical morons. It's about movie and TV music. Not so much music but the short musical sound effects. Like the sound that makes a scene feel tense. What exactly are they doing? Are they arpeggiating a chord? It's usually just a single note at a time, typically a string.. But it creates a very unsettled feeling. Are these short musical phrases usually done in the same key throughout a show?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 25, 2013 07:29 PM (ZPrif)

246 varones i hate mccain, i would never wish that on him

Posted by: phoenixgirl,commenter on a conservative award winning blog at March 25, 2013 07:30 PM (GVxQo)

247 Posted by: W.C. Varones at March 25, 2013 11:25 PM (QMAPJ) No, jackass.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 07:30 PM (csi6Y)

248 Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 25, 2013 11:27 PM (e8kgV) On the other hand, I just refied my conforming and subordinated my second, all at 2.75%. WTF else can I do better with my money than get debt free?

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 07:30 PM (bS6uW)

249 Warning! Shameless self-aggrandizement follows: I've never had anything "published" or posted anywhere, so this is kind of cool for me. My short essay, The Apex of Liberty (or Why I am a Conservative) is up here: http://bit.ly/YBhW43 For whatever it's worth. So, Justified's been good this season. How 'bout that Boyd Crowder? And of course the indomitable Nick Searcy.

Posted by: .87c at March 25, 2013 07:30 PM (FVdef)

250 :::: Most of those gun deaths Jim Carrey laments are minorities shooting other minorities in the inner cities, not some guy named Billy Bob pulling a Bushmaster off the rack on his pickup truck :::: But gangbangers are misunderstood.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 07:31 PM (csi6Y)

251 For Vietnam vet pilot films, my personal favorites are "Little Dieter Needs To Fly", Werner von Braun director, documentary. This same story was the basis for "Rescue Dawn" which was more like a Hollywood production. Great stories about a great man who gave much, Dieter Dengler.

Posted by: navybrat at March 25, 2013 07:31 PM (S8AWK)

252 Next time one of your lefty relatives does the "shitkicker" accent relating to guns, ask them why they don't do the thug rapper accent since they're doing most of the killing?

Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 07:31 PM (mCvL4)

253

Has there ever been another actor as cool as Steve McQueen?

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2013 11:15 PM (M/TDA)




James Garner had some cool

 

Robert Mitchum and Lee Marvin too.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 07:32 PM (IDSI7)

254 211- Fucking troll. Go away bad dream. Got scotch and a .45 at my desk. Can't see you from here. Move a little closer.

Please.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 25, 2013 07:32 PM (4Mv1T)

255 Over at Twitchy, I saw that Donna Brazile said that the NRA's solution to every problem is to shoot it.

Judging from Brazile's picture, she thinks the solution to every problem is to eat it.

Posted by: Donna V. at March 25, 2013 11:20 PM (R3gO3)


You know i was thinking of the great divide earlier .


while reading slate on to drone or not to drone, polls results.


I had read comments  (unfortunately)  but not commented.

there was an Obama  advocate stating how WE  blah blah only  care Obama is doing this, we didn't mind Bush doing it. etc (Ahmed Hijazi 2002 ) a killing  of Al Queda group without knowing an american was in that group.  He mentions  we spit in Their face while they had protests marches...

He mention Their protests !


While He is now supporting Obama going further x 1,000. He mentions patriot act  (which i actually hated it i knew it Could lead to this shit with another President ) never give em that much authority!


without blinking an eyelash.


how are we ever going to come to any agreement  with the other half of the country?

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:32 PM (nqBYe)

256 Truman you still around? So, it seems (unshockingly) that we are heavily heavily outgunned on the foundation front. Think Tanks do a decent bit of professional conservativism, however, and are able to have a good impact outside the beltway, in state politics. What is the conservative think tank situation in Mass like? Mental note, when I am Pope George Washington, the left gets defunded and the foundations lose their protected status.

Posted by: Hopeless at March 25, 2013 07:32 PM (62WS0)

257 221 Yes Garner was cool but not the icy hot cool of McQueen.

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2013 07:33 PM (M/TDA)

258 McQueen was very good in Papillon.

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2013 07:33 PM (yBF/9)

259 Oh, anyone want some new Queensryche? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w4RfoUv9KU Posted by: Robert at March 25, 2013 11:28 PM No.

Posted by: AltonJackson (old new content up) at March 25, 2013 07:34 PM (JMmQ9)

260 John Wayne. Nuff said.

Posted by: Craig Poe at March 25, 2013 07:34 PM (BVkEs)

261 The best line is the last line http://tinyurl.com/cg75nl3

Posted by: Boomer Redneque hates the fucking cold at March 25, 2013 07:34 PM (9m8VQ)

262   Thank you folks, will check out the savage model 10 and thompson center....I'm hoping the stores have something in stock right now... I would have saved my question for the gun thread but, I have no idea when it is and if i'm going to be online at that time, so thanks again...

Posted by: confiscate my 401k at your own risk at March 25, 2013 07:34 PM (2ykTc)

263 James Garner had some cool

Robert Mitchum and Lee Marvin too.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 11:32 PM (IDSI7)


Yes, they did, and I love them all.  However, nobody is even in the same zip code as McQueen.  He was the uber-cool-dude, even in the 60s when cool was king.

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:34 PM (8lmkt)

264 Re: morons being expected to do shit. Yeah. That's what we do. Hence the fuckin' problem with the FSA and us. There is no reconciliation. Either we are fucked, or they are. I think the latter.

Posted by: Kalneva at March 25, 2013 07:35 PM (S+/pH)

265 I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but I live in Colorado and now that we have "universal" checks they are making us go through an FFL to get them done. Oh, and making us pay for them. Brass

Posted by: brass at March 25, 2013 07:35 PM (T5r1H)

266 237 Thanks, Jerry, but the old hard drive works just fine. I just want to recycle the hardware. Plus, it's not like a PC, where you can just loosen a couple screws and yank the hard drive. I really would like to get it out of my apartment, though. Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 11:27 PM (8lmkt) Depending on what kind of mac it is, if you have a compatible OSX install disc it will have a copy of Disk Utility on it that can securely erase the drive (and presumably reinstall the OS so you can sell it or give it to someone to use). It offers up to a 35-pass overwrite, which is pretty darned secure. If you don't have an install disc you will have to use another utility like Permanent Erase http://preview.tinyurl.com/bwlcoqp Which you can just delete everything you don't want to leave and it automatically scrubs it from the drive - but it's more manual and you have to make sure you get everything.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 07:35 PM (bxiXv)

267 253 For Vietnam vet pilot films, my personal favorites are "Little Dieter Needs To Fly", Werner von Braun director, documentary. This same story was the basis for "Rescue Dawn" which was more like a Hollywood production. Great stories about a great man who gave much, Dieter Dengler.

Posted by: navybrat at March 25, 2013 11:31 PM (S8AWK)


--Actually the subject of an earlier ONT.

Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 07:35 PM (+iA5G)

268 Werner von Braun was a very strange man. Seriously brilliant dude, but his Nazi-to-US Hero transformation and subsequent leadership of NASA is as bizarre a post-war story as has ever been told.

Posted by: Blacksheep at March 25, 2013 07:36 PM (bS6uW)

269

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 11:34 PM (8lmkt)

 

---

 

Robert Mitchum was the spitting image of my uncle, who recently passed away just short of the century mark.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 07:36 PM (IDSI7)

270 The Mossberg looks good, for about a third the price of a match-grade AR, and you can put optics on it.
No discussion is desired at this point on the merits of iron vs, optical sights.
The Savage should be good, too.
Both offerings will suffice as legal rifles for F-class T/R competition, or "belly bench-rest". Not sure about the Savage, but the Mossberg's 1:9 barrel twist will handle the longer, heavier pills necessary to beat the wind at longer ranges.
One of my rifle mentors, although he is too gruff to admit something like that, I have learned a lot from him, shot an F-T/R match with a bolt action .223 a few years ago that I helped officiate. He didn't win the class, but I think he had an ammo issue.
If you're looking for an "only" rifle, or if this will be your first accuracy rifle, there are other considerations. But, if you want an accurate bolt-action rifle chamber in .223, go for it.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 07:36 PM (1V6Pv)

271 "Like the sound that makes a scene feel tense. What exactly are they doing?"

It is called dissonance. You can create it any number of ways. It begs for resolution, but sometimes does not get resolution, which is why you feel tense. Dissonance dances on a fine line between that which endurable and that which creates irritation, such as the sound of metal screeching on metal. Dissonance occurring at lower frequency levels can be actually pleasant. The higher up the frequency range it goes, the more intense, the more demanding, the more, if you will, irritating. Think shower scene in "Psycho". High frequency, high volume, rhythmic.

Dissonance can actually be measured on a scientific, acoustical basis.

Posted by: navybrat at March 25, 2013 07:36 PM (S8AWK)

272 .87c, Congrats, Find out who is doing tmwr's ONT and send it to then.

Posted by: Hopeless at March 25, 2013 07:36 PM (VdNG6)

273 225 190 Finally watching Vikings. My Nordic nads are yelling HELL YEAH. Posted by: esch at March 25, 2013 11:13 PM (MV6z6) --Not a bad show, eh? Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 11:23 PM (+iA5G) Can't wait until Svein gets an ax to the noggin. (the little suck up to the Earl)

Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 07:37 PM (sqp6o)

274 Lefty think tanks exist to give jobs to Ivy League grads who are too clumsy for politics, too stupid for the private sector, and too ugly for television

Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 07:37 PM (mCvL4)

275 Depending on what kind of mac it is, if you have a compatible OSX install disc it will have a copy of Disk Utility on it that can securely erase the drive

Thanks, Mero!  It's a 2005 iMac with a PowerPC OS, that no one has supported in dog's years (which is why I recently paid for a new one).  The disk drive hasn't worked for a long time.  I do have the disks, but they are useless to me.  I am NOT using a hammer.  I have some good Mac guys over in SM, I guess I will call them, they'll probably want the thing anyway.

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:38 PM (8lmkt)

276

For Steve McQueen fans the motorcycle documentary "On Any Sunday" is a must have.

 

Also "The Sand Pebbles" about the Navy in China 1927. My personal favorite McQueen film.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 25, 2013 07:39 PM (PBm/l)

277

how are we ever going to come to any agreement with the other half of the country?

 

No.  Hence the revolution or a divorce,  same goes for Colorado.

 

 

I don't see any way of changing the hearts and minds of the left.  I don't think we have that much time.  But that is just me.

Posted by: Infidel at March 25, 2013 07:39 PM (gqEUi)

278 The coolest thing about McQueen's cool, was that he didn't make any attempt to be cool. No pretense, no "affectations", he was just "that guy" that was "a little different", not afraid of a loaded gun, not afraid of high speed on wet pavement. Didn't even know he was painting outside the lines.

Cool is, as cool does.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 25, 2013 07:40 PM (4Mv1T)

279 Need help, think we missed a walking dead episode, after they find the black guy with all the weapons, is the next episode the meeting with the governor?

Posted by: lou's a girl at March 25, 2013 07:40 PM (vgd4f)

280 Lefty think tanks exist to give jobs to Ivy League grads who are too clumsy for politics, too stupid for the private sector, and too ugly for television Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 11:37 PM Spot on.

Posted by: AltonJackson (old new content up) at March 25, 2013 07:40 PM (JMmQ9)

281 Same dude, not long ago, walks back into the booth after worship has started. We're halfway through song 1 of 4. "Hey, I need you to be able to show this webpage up on the screen while I'm speaking. My sermon doesn't work otherwise."

Keep in mind that I had never attempted to do that.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2013 11:06 PM (GEICT)


Sounds about right. Back when I worked in radio, we used to get all kinds of things sent to us that we "just have to play, right now!!!1eleventy!!111!!" After we listened to their cassette tape recording that we could barely understand, we would ask for a cd, reel to reel tape, or even a record. They would look at you like you had 3 heads because their Mr Microphone into a mono tape deck song just doesn't pass the standards of any radio station and how dare you dismiss their musical genius.


Even worse, the political ads. Every politician felt like sitting in the back seat of a car reading some policy statement into a micro recorder is the height of fidelity.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 07:40 PM (Zd/NW)

282 Robert Mitchum was the spitting image of my uncle, who recently passed away just short of the century mark.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 11:36 PM (IDSI7)

How cool . . . I had the hugest crush on Mitchum.  I think it was Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison that roped me in.  With Deborah Kerr.  I was probably 6 or 7.  He awakened theretofore unknown feelings in my little self. 

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:40 PM (8lmkt)

283 Notice that all the examples of "cool" mentioned here are long gone from the silver screen. Gone but not forgotten.

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2013 07:41 PM (M/TDA)

284 John Milius said once that during the LA riots, all sorts of Hollywood lefties called him up asking if he had any guns he could sell to them

I'm sure that Jim Carrey wasn't one of them since he was part of In Living Color and he felt that therefore he would get a pass from the looters


Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 07:41 PM (mCvL4)

285 Black Sheep, A lot of things are really strange about WW2 and the immediate post-war era.

Posted by: Hopeless at March 25, 2013 07:42 PM (g8+Vr)

286

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 11:40 PM (8lmkt)

 

My uncle (a Southerner born and bred) even sounded like Robert Mitchum. Everyone used to comment on the uncanny resemblance.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 07:42 PM (IDSI7)

287 Hey, peeps.  Steve McQueen.  Wow.  Looks pretty delectible, I must say. 

Posted by: joanne at March 25, 2013 07:43 PM (Cjcon)

288 I don't see any way of changing the hearts and minds of the left. I don't think we have that much time. But that is just me.

Posted by: Infidel at March 25, 2013 11:39 PM (gqEUi)


I know we know we have issues in America politically  , but it's become that  it can't be left at the door when people visit  or work.


The immensity of this is actually appalling they have way to much worship for tfg.

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:43 PM (nqBYe)

289 ::: 286 John Milius said once that during the LA riots, all sorts of Hollywood lefties called him up asking if he had any guns he could sell to them ::: lol

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 07:44 PM (csi6Y)

290 Yep. Great so far. Even his shieldmaiden wife kicks ass.

Posted by: esch at March 25, 2013 07:44 PM (MV6z6)

291 281 Need help, think we missed a walking dead episode, after they find the black guy with all the weapons, is the next episode the meeting with the governor? Posted by: lou's a girl at March 25, 2013 11:40 PM (vgd4f) Why it gotta be da brutha wit all da heaters?

Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 07:44 PM (sqp6o)

292 he didn't make any attempt to be cool

that is the number 1 thing about cool, you either have it or you don't.  trying is a cool-killer. 

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:44 PM (8lmkt)

293 Thanks, Mero! It's a 2005 iMac with a PowerPC OS, that no one has supported in dog's years (which is why I recently paid for a new one). The disk drive hasn't worked for a long time. I do have the disks, but they are useless to me. I am NOT using a hammer. I have some good Mac guys over in SM, I guess I will call them, they'll probably want the thing anyway. Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 11:38 PM (8lmkt) Okay I was wondering why you said the disk did and didn't work - the hard disk works and the CD/DVD disk drive doesn't. Like I said if you download permanent eraser directly to the computer off the net you can do that, or save it to a thumb drive on your new computer and copy it over. If I was close I'd just swap hardware - I have a 2005 G5 tower (with two flaky video cards, grrr argh), and I have a firewire external DVD around here somewhere.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 07:45 PM (bxiXv)

294 Not thru all the comments yet, but have you (the Horde collectively) noticed how many guys presently in the 40-55 year-old age bracket (approx.) are named Steve?  I've been places where there were three or four "steves" about that age.  Are they all named after Steve McQueen?

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at March 25, 2013 07:45 PM (LbHHd)

295 290 Willow,

Yup....I did not try to evangelize them out of Clinton worship...I won't for Obama either but I am ready for the divorce and I want it now I never did before.

I would not trust these people to popper scoop my yard, I am tired of entrusting them with my family's posterity.

"leave me be"


Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 07:45 PM (LRFds)

296 RWC, hey, I dont write the show. So did we miss an episode?

Posted by: lou's a girl at March 25, 2013 07:46 PM (vgd4f)

297 Barely five years ago, I was (almost) as hot as McQueen.


*SIGH*

Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 07:47 PM (+iA5G)

298 anyway the drool cup runneth over...

stay frosty and remember the donks are for beating not being....

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 25, 2013 07:47 PM (LRFds)

299

Did anyone watch the "Beach Boys Shred 'I Get Around'", featured on Althouse today. I laughed my ass off,  multiple times,  but apparently it's not funny to lots of people. I wonder what the morons thought.

http://tinyurl.com/c8vw6jr

Posted by: kalneva at March 25, 2013 07:47 PM (S+/pH)

300 284 He and Miss Kerr had great on-screen chemistry but then again she was great with whoever she worked with. Think about it. Gable, Holden, Cary Grant, Mitchum , etc. she was one lucky actress.

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2013 07:47 PM (M/TDA)

301 sven,  yeah i'm not digging how political absolutely EveryThing has become.

they really need cult intervention or something/

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:48 PM (nqBYe)

302

Willow,  Can't talk about it at work.  Have a mortgage to pay.  It sucks.  I keep trying  to talk to people and attend various local functions, most times I just tell myself LIFB!  I'm prepared, they are not.  At least I know where the cameras are at City Hall now.

Posted by: Infidel at March 25, 2013 07:49 PM (gqEUi)

303 --So, pray tell, what was the imperialist plan for America to exploit Viet Nam? Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 11:29 PM (+iA5G) I would really like somebody to detail our imperialist plans for Vietnam. They keep saying we had some, but.....pffft ...nothing.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 25, 2013 07:50 PM (CAGTx)

304 Steve McQueen. Opening Scene. Alfred Hitchcock.

http://tinyurl.com/cxs5abl

Posted by: Craig Poe at March 25, 2013 07:50 PM (BVkEs)

305

No actor even comes close to Dash Riprock for cool.
Except maybe Bolt Upright.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 25, 2013 07:50 PM (+bBKd)

306 302 How could I have forgotten Burt Lancaster and Yul Brynner?

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2013 07:50 PM (M/TDA)

307 292 Yep. Great so far. Even his shieldmaiden wife kicks ass.

Posted by: esch at March 25, 2013 11:44 PM (MV6z6)


--Yeah, it's not 100% history, but I love the storytelling.  It's just a notch below Rome, which is a compliment.

Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 07:50 PM (+iA5G)

308 Infidel, alright, stay safe and prosperous.

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 07:50 PM (nqBYe)

309 Evening 'rons and 'ettes.  Night 8 of 11 just getting underway.  Drink 'em if you got 'em, since professionalism and umpteen statutes keep me from enjoying some bourbon tonight.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 25, 2013 07:51 PM (FqcJu)

310

Posted by: W.C. Varones at March 25, 2013 11:20 PM (QMAPJ)

Tard.  'Nuff said.

Posted by: joanne at March 25, 2013 07:52 PM (Cjcon)

311 If I was close I'd just swap hardware - I have a 2005 G5 tower (with two flaky video cards, grrr argh), and I have a firewire external DVD around here somewhere.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 25, 2013 11:45 PM (bxiXv)

Thanks, Mero!  I've got it all transferred over to the new high-priced ho, I just want the old one scrubbed before I rid myself of it.  I will figure it out and thank you again for the advice. 

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 07:53 PM (8lmkt)

312 298 RWC, hey, I dont write the show. So did we miss an episode? Posted by: lou's a girl at March 25, 2013 11:46 PM (vgd4f) I don't know. I stopped watching after the 4th or 5th episode of the first season (which I'm kind of ticked about, as it seems it turned out to be a good show.) RIght now I have 'The Americans,' The Bible,' and 'Vikings' as my shows. Would love to have a snowfall to catch up with TWD. Couple of years ago i went through the entire 'Alias' collection as well as 'Jericho.' Horde got love for 'Jericho?' i loved that show.

Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 07:53 PM (sqp6o)

313 I would really like somebody to detail our imperialist plans for Vietnam. They keep saying we had some, but.....pffft ...nothing.

 

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 25, 2013 11:50 PM

 

 

step 1- steal rice

step 2- ???

step 3- profit!

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2013 07:54 PM (yBF/9)

314 McQueen was the king of cool.  A cool-er  king, if you will.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 25, 2013 07:54 PM (BAS5M)

315

Are they all named after Steve McQueen?

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at March 25, 2013 11:45 PM (LbHHd)

 

No. "Steve" became a popular name around 1950, and continued as such for a while, but now has passed out of favor.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 07:54 PM (IDSI7)

316 Can't wait until Svein gets an ax to the noggin. (the little suck up to the Earl)

Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 11:37 PM (sqp6o)


That dude is the worst. I still find it hard to believe that a Viking woman would stop a rape of a Saxon woman.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 25, 2013 07:54 PM (NzBQO)

317 No. Posted by: AltonJackson (old new content up) at March 25, 2013 11:34 PM (JMmQ9) You say no but I heard yes.

Posted by: Robert at March 25, 2013 07:54 PM (LUnTP)

318 302 284
He and Miss Kerr had great on-screen chemistry but then again she was great with whoever she worked with. Think about it. Gable, Holden, Cary Grant, Mitchum , etc. she was one lucky actress.

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2013 11:47 PM (M/TDA)


--Deborah Kerr was hawt.  Beat Liz Taylor IMO.

Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 07:55 PM (+iA5G)

319 226
Haven't had any good news on the political front for a while. Found something that made me happy, thought I'd share. According to the Blaze, Paul, Cruz, and Mike Lee are sending a letter to Harry Reid (Pederast, Nevada) stating they will oppose preceding on any bill which restricts the second ammendment. I think this means filibuster.

Posted by: Simon Jester at March 25, 2013 11:23 PM (EhSF0)


I don't think Reid is going to mind, nor a lot of Dem senators in red states. This will give them cover so they can bitch about not being able to do anything to the anti 2nd amendment dopes, and it gives him more time to bitch about the filibuster while not doing anything.


It really is a win win for Reid.


It is also a win for the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 07:56 PM (Zd/NW)

320

"I would really like somebody to detail our imperialist plans for Vietnam."

Cheap tennis shoes?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 25, 2013 07:56 PM (+bBKd)

321 @Hopeless et al, FWIW, I'm working on the problem from another angle. Identity politics is all about divide and conquer, right? And it works especially well because people aren't really rational, even though as a rule they aren't stupid. See the widespread ability to believe (and get emotionally invested) in conflicting things at the same time. (sorry, the proof doesn't fit in the margin) So what if you could use identity politics to unite instead? Say, by explaining how the above emotional/rational business works as a universal function (identity) of human nature? Then you could confound liberal arguments by turning them against themselves from inside out, a little bit like what Breitbart was beginning to do to the established media. This actually works. I've been doing this conversationally to my liberal friends (I operate in very liberal circles) for a few months now with pretty good success. On a broader scale, the best defense against emotional manipulation is knowing how you can be emotionally manipulated. Spreading this knowledge would make an excellent inoculation against creeping statism, and ought to be a major goal of the right. Unfortunately, I can't really work on writing all of this up for a while yet, as I am still prepping for a difficult-to-land job. Weaponizing a nascent philosophy has to wait just a bit longer, and that delay is frankly driving me insane. I have hopes for the summer. Just know that we're not dead, yet.

Posted by: Piercello at March 25, 2013 07:56 PM (E/6f0)

322 Also "The Sand Pebbles" about the Navy in China 1927. My personal favorite McQueen film. Posted by: ExSnipe at March 25, 2013 11:39 PM (PBm/l) Mine, as well. The DVD has the original extended roadshow version with extras scenes I had never seen before. Very cool.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 25, 2013 07:56 PM (CAGTx)

323 Has there ever been another actor as cool as Steve McQueen? Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2013 11:15 PM (M/TDA) James Garner had some cool Robert Mitchum and Lee Marvin too. Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 25, 2013 11:32 PM (IDSI7) You want to hear something truly pathetic? I once had a chance to have drinks with Robert Mitchum. And I begged off, because it was the night before midterms. I had a night job with one of his drinking buddies, and he invited me to tag along while he attended Mitchum's weekly Tuesday debauch at the Biltmore. Asked for a rain check because of the midterms, but it was one of Mitchum's last outings before he fell ill and passed a few months later. I'll always be ashamed of that. 'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 25, 2013 07:57 PM (MBqvE)

324 314 RWC we are watching the Bible, and hubby has been dvr'ing the Vikings. You should watch the Walking Dead, it really does get a lot better then the first season!

Posted by: lou's a girl at March 25, 2013 07:57 PM (vgd4f)

325

Evening 'rons and 'ettes. Night 8 of 11 just getting underway. Drink 'em if you got 'em, since professionalism and umpteen statutes keep me from enjoying some bourbon tonight.

 

Way ahead of you.  I have a glass of bourbon and am about to light up a cigar.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 07:58 PM (lr3d7)

326 "I would really like somebody to detail our imperialist plans for Vietnam." Cheap tennis shoes? Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 25, 2013 11:56 PM (+bBKd) Well, we certainly fucked that up. Goddamn things are way too expensive.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 25, 2013 08:00 PM (CAGTx)

327 Stephanie was probably more popular than Stephen, back then. During Woodstock, and everything.......

Posted by: Craig Poe at March 25, 2013 08:02 PM (BVkEs)

328 318 Can't wait until Svein gets an ax to the noggin. (the little suck up to the Earl) Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 11:37 PM (sqp6o) That dude is the worst. I still find it hard to believe that a Viking woman would stop a rape of a Saxon woman. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 25, 2013 11:54 PM (NzBQO) Agreed on stopping it. Maybe the angle is the Christian is having an influence.

Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 08:02 PM (sqp6o)

329

"I would really like somebody to detail our imperialist plans for Vietnam."

 

Groundwork for future Pho franchisees  here in the good ol' USA?


Posted by: Count de Monet at March 25, 2013 08:03 PM (BAS5M)

330 Piercello, Will say a prayer for you re: the job.

Posted by: Hopeless at March 25, 2013 08:03 PM (1kPLg)

331 Hopeless? Are you still around? My zipper got stuck...

Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 08:03 PM (I2LwF)

332 Lee Stranahan ‏@Stranahan

Via @nprnews: New York's Met Museum Is Sued Over 'Deceptive' Entrance Fees

http://n.pr/13rzy74

KBDaBear ‏@kbdabear

@Stranahan @nprnews Joe Biden went there and complained that he didn't see anything on Seaver, Gooden, Strawberry, Piazza, or Wright


Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 08:04 PM (mCvL4)

333 wut?

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 08:04 PM (nqBYe)

334 Hello all, just popping after a night of work and briefly skimmed the thread.

The coolest thing about Steve McQueen? After a certain point, he stopped giving interviews to major publications like People magazine but actually agreed to do an interview with a high schooler writing for his student newspaper. I think it was the last interview he did before passing away

Posted by: The Q at March 25, 2013 08:04 PM (yVmMc)

335 Gah. Yeah, I have no patience, at all, for people who don't understand tech and who are not willing to show even the teeny tiniest bit of understanding for what it takes to make things run.

Alex: boy oh boy oh boy oh boy...

After I got let go at my most recent job over a bogus sexual harassment complaint, a friend of one of my former co-workers, both of whom were immigrants from Sierra Leone, asked me to come do some work for her on an as-needed basis.

Well, I couldn't get unemployment bennies and needed money bad. But I called her, and made what I thought was an agreement to do some word processing and desktop publishing work for her. A week later I went to her place, a few miles from me. What did she want me to do? Assemble her new Big Lots el-cheapo computer stand for her.

With some help from another guy in the neighborhood, we got it done. And I continued to work for her, but things just continued to get worse and worse and worse. First, she INSISTED I do everything at her dogshit-reeking apartment, sitting in a chair barely big enough to fit a toddler, even though she could have easily have sent me roughs via email and I had far better material to work with at home. But alas, the poor dear just couldn't be bothered to figure out how to do email with attachments. She also wanted me to call local businesses to solicit sponsorships for her business, which (at least according to her) was an IRS-recognized charity supporting local arts education, as well as improving living conditions in Sierra Leone. I agreed to make some calls as long as the targets were easy-- a gift card from Starbucks here, a membership from Costco there. But I could just never get it through her thick head that I was a computer, writing, and desktop publishing person.

On top of that, she was constantly bugging me to do blogging for her to promote her group. So I got her started up with a Blogger.com account. But that wasn't good enough... she wanted something completely customized from the ground up. I must have told her at least a dozen times: that's NOT my specialty, I barely know how to do it, and unless you've got $500 for me to buy a copy of Dreamweaver and six months for me to take to learn how to use it, stop asking me.

And then the final straws... she had organized a drum class for "at-risk" youth at a nearby music store in Long Beach. Okay, fine. She wanted me to use my point-and-shoot Canon to take some raw video for her. Well, stupid me. I saw an opportunity to promote my burgeoning video skills. So I took the video... then had a brainstorm to turn it into a full-fledged five-minute video with narration, short interviews with the instructor and the owner of the music store, the background of my client's charity... the works.

So I did it. No it wasn't backbreaking, but I'd say I spent about 30 hours in one week doing it. My client loved it too, and after making some stupid minor changes her spoiled teenage daughter demanded, it was done. She agreed to show it at her Christmas Event in Los Alamitos in a month.

But again, I was stupid. I hadn't worked out compensation. She barely wanted to pay me $50. I told her-- and it was true-- that for this level of promotional video, most professionals would charge her at least 10 times that. But since it was my idea, I was willing to come down as low as $200. She didn't like it... at all... but agreed.

Finally the Christmas event came, and it was time to show the video to her invited supporters and community sponsors. So what happens? She forgot her good-quality laptop to use with projection equipment to play the video, so she had to borrow one from one of the party attendees... that had barely enough RAM to access the web, forget play video. So nothing more than awkward snippets got shown of my video; she explained them as if it were a two-bit slide show, and never even acknowledged I had produced it for her, until about an hour later during another presentation when she suddenly "remembered." So much for my attempt to promote my video production skills with anyone at the party.

To add injury to insult, she swore she would pay me my $200 after the party. So I approached her, swearing under my breath it would be the last time I would ever have to deal with her... and she refused to pay. "Come to my place tomorrow," she insisted. This was in 2011.

The last time I had to deal with this woman was six months ago, when (I kid you not) she wanted me to (you guessed it!) build another website for a project her daughter had going in a class at a nearby community college-- in other words, basically do her kid's homework for her. I had already done one website for her daughter at Blogger and wasn't about to be snookered again. I begged off, and made up a bogus story of having too much to do for other (nonexistent) clients. Thankfully, I haven't heard back from her since. I don't know whether to laugh or cry about the whole experience anymore.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2013 08:05 PM (7B7jB)

336 Here's the link to that interview in 1980: http://stvmcqueen.tripod.com/interview.html

Posted by: The Q at March 25, 2013 08:05 PM (yVmMc)

337 Agreed on stopping it. Maybe the angle is the Christian is having an influence.

Posted by: RWC at March 26, 2013 12:02 AM (sqp6o)


Yeah I keep thinking Ragnar is gonna leave on a raid comeback and boom! Kids Christianized!

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 25, 2013 08:05 PM (NzBQO)

338 Conan: "PassoverÂ’s the time every year IÂ’m forced to spend 8 days and 8 nights writing all my own jokes."

Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 08:05 PM (mCvL4)

339 How sweet it is. Post #211 has to endure four different time zones of Morons reading his/her/its idiotic shit, and responding in kind.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 25, 2013 08:05 PM (4Mv1T)

340 326 314 RWC we are watching the Bible, and hubby has been dvr'ing the Vikings. You should watch the Walking Dead, it really does get a lot better then the first season! Posted by: lou's a girl at March 25, 2013 11:57 PM (vgd4f) I'm sure I will, but I'll be behind. (haven't watched SofA or Boardwalk Empire which I wish I got into at the beginning.

Posted by: RWC at March 25, 2013 08:06 PM (sqp6o)

341 have a nice evening .

Posted by: willow at March 25, 2013 08:06 PM (nqBYe)

342 OK, I'm out the Beach Boys thing was cool the various "Steve McQueen" things were uber-cool Robert: "no" means no we'll discuss these things tomorrow night tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson (old new content up) at March 25, 2013 08:06 PM (JMmQ9)

343 I wrote about Operation Linebacker II a while ago, and the heavy losses of B-52s.

http://tinyurl.com/bm4uxc8


Posted by: xbradtc at March 25, 2013 08:07 PM (O0L6N)

344 331 "I would really like somebody to detail our imperialist plans for Vietnam." Groundwork for future Pho franchisees here in the good ol' USA? Posted by: Count de Monet at March 26, 2013 12:03 AM (BAS5M) Yeah, but who could have forseen the boat people that far in advan.....oh wait, radical left Democrats in '74.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 25, 2013 08:07 PM (CAGTx)

345 Anyone who likes their Vikings should read the Saxon Chronicle books by Bernard Cornwell. Bad Vikings, good Vikings, really, really bad Vikings and every type of Viking in between. Damn good battle scenes too.

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2013 08:08 PM (M/TDA)

346 Talking about patronage, and developing conservative institutions, and all that....really brings home what the fundamental problem is, and that is flapping jaws and spewing bullshit.



The language that we use to discuss these things is so convoluted and backward that nothing makes sense. People who call themselves "conservative" today hearken back to "classical liberalism" and a golden age pre-FDR. People who call themselves "Democrats" today would recoil if Andrew Jackson offered to shake hands, and are far more similar to the nomenklatura of Soviet Russia. Academic history labels the Nazis as "extreme right-wing", despite the full name of their movement being the "National Socialist Party"....and, BTW, kowtowing to every currently fashionable cult from veganism to gaia-worship.



You cannot create a foundation that perpetually supports freedom, because every foundation in the history of mankind has always ended up supporting foundations. And who benefits when all of humanity's efforts are channeled into foundations and groups?.....let me give you a hint, it ain't the Ayn Rand fan club.



We need to tear into government with chainsaws, not co-opt it or its methods, nor the methods of the Government Party. We need to say, "labor law -- it's the states'.....any national labor law is duplicative and wasteful. Education? Local school boards.....andy national or state bureaucracy is duplicative and wasteful." Here in California, we are blessed with "Cal-EPA".....believe it or not. And, yes, that means that whatever industries the EPA is strangling have to be strangled harder, because otherwise Cal-EPA would be a freakin' ridiculous duplicate waste-of-time.




Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2013 08:08 PM (kaalw)

347 Oh: and the woman I described in my tome above was a major-league Obamabot too. Anybody surprised?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2013 08:08 PM (7B7jB)

348 Also, this week's edition of Load HEAT features Megan Mullally.

http://tinyurl.com/ca5awpp

Posted by: xbradtc at March 25, 2013 08:08 PM (O0L6N)

349

But it was like a scout camp compared to Macquarie Harbour. Hell. On. Earth. A virtual death sentence. The only thing worse than Macquarie Harbour, was escaping from Macquarie Harbour. Posted by: otho at March 25, 2013 11:27 PM (yBF/9)

 

Maybe that was the place I was thinking of. I read "A Fatal Shore" by Robert Hughes a long time ago. That book stayed with me.

Posted by: Donna V. at March 25, 2013 08:09 PM (R3gO3)

350 @322 The Bata brand was from the then-Commie Czechoslovakia.
All the Commies, of course, wanted them at the mall. The latest thing for the Commie-fag-junkie Complex on campus.
Now they run the government and the SEIU.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 08:10 PM (1V6Pv)

351 hey, anyone want to "like" my product review for something I hate? it requires an email address to like it.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 25, 2013 08:12 PM (Z9EHQ)

352 Still reading that article about the Horace Mann School.  I must make a note to never ask Gary Alan Fine what he thinks is the difference between rape and rape rape.

Berman is a Svengali.  A Charles Manson who taught English literature and warped/hurt/stunted hundreds of minds.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:12 PM (iGhmo)

353 Been up since 4:30 AM to get la familia off in de plane to see son #1 in Bean Town.

Drinking since 5PM EST, so I'm out. I mean OUT.  Hugs and kisses y'all.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 25, 2013 08:13 PM (4Mv1T)

354 Argh. I wanted to talk to Hopeless again. Maybe tomorrow afternoon

Posted by: Truman North at March 25, 2013 08:13 PM (I2LwF)

355 Sounds about right. Back when I worked in radio, we used to get all kinds of things sent to us that we "just have to play, right now!!!1eleventy!!111!!" After we listened to their cassette tape recording that we could barely understand, we would ask for a cd, reel to reel tape, or even a record. They would look at you like you had 3 heads because their Mr Microphone into a mono tape deck song just doesn't pass the standards of any radio station and how dare you dismiss their musical genius. Even worse, the political ads. Every politician felt like sitting in the back seat of a car reading some policy statement into a micro recorder is the height of fidelity. Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 11:40 PM (Zd/NW) It still goes on. Just last month I got an email with new spots from a client. CD quality is 44.1 kilohertz in stereo. These ads were 11 kilohertz in mono...it sounded like they'd been recorded over a telephone, and they were scheduled to start the next day. I told the boss there was no way ads that crappy were airing on any station I was associated with. It's flippin' embarassing. Hello, Horde!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Lonely Dude at March 25, 2013 08:14 PM (5J54Q)

356 Posted by: Piercello at March 25, 2013 11:56 PM (E/6f0) Piercello, I'm fascinated, but I don't quite follow. Can you flesh it out a bit?

Posted by: Mindy at March 25, 2013 08:14 PM (wk9P4)

357 Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2013 12:05 AM (7B7jB) Sorry for your experience, but I'm glad I stuck around long enough to read about it. Reminds me of some people I know...

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 08:14 PM (csi6Y)

358 Now hear this. Any moron currently wearing pants is officially reprimanded. That is all. Carry on.

Posted by: Seamless Muldoon at March 25, 2013 08:14 PM (p8Mda)

359 345 I wrote about Operation Linebacker II a while ago, and the heavy losses of B-52s.

http://tinyurl.com/bm4uxc8


Posted by: xbradtc at March 26, 2013 12:07 AM (O0L6N)


--Great read!

Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 08:15 PM (+iA5G)

360

John Kerry, Jim Carrey - who's the bigger asshole and why do they spell their names differently ?

 

HOLY COW- Harry Carey

Posted by: seamrog at March 25, 2013 08:15 PM (5mtsk)

361 despite the full name of their movement being the "National Socialist Party" "National Socialist German Worker's Party"

Posted by: t-bird at March 25, 2013 08:16 PM (FcR7P)

362 Now hear this.

Any moron currently wearing pants is officially reprimanded.

That is all.

Carry on.


So we have to wear skirts now?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 25, 2013 08:16 PM (xKC/c)

363 This is from the article on sex abuse at Horace Mann. Note that the guy is a sociologist. Gary Alan Fine, a 1968 graduate of Horace Mann and a sociologist at Northwestern University, accepts that Berman’s accusers are telling the truth, but worries that the Horace Mann teachers are being judged by the standards of a different time. “This was the late sixties, and what we now think of as rape or sexual assault didn’t quite mean the same thing in that age of sexual awakening,” Fine said. What some teachers did “was wrong, absolutely, but there are degrees of wrongness, and what was wrong in 1966 is today much more wrong. I can’t imagine that in the late nineteen-sixties anyone would have been terribly surprised had they learned that some faculty were having sexual relations with students. Most would not have thought it good, but it was the way of the world.”

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 25, 2013 08:16 PM (Lqy/e)

364 You want to hear something truly pathetic?

I once had a chance to have drinks with Robert Mitchum. And I begged off, because it was the night before midterms.

Wow, ITC, that would haunt me forever.  Like the day I did not go roller-skating with the crew and they ended up sitting next to Sean Connery at the Sidewalk.  Sticks in my craw like a fuckin' rogue cat hair to this very day.

And, yo, 'rons, how 'bout a little Connery cool? 

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 08:17 PM (8lmkt)

365 Yeah smelling that rotted fish sauce smell tonight.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 11:25 PM (iGhmo)

 

AKA  armpit  sauce. 

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 25, 2013 08:17 PM (zrSl3)

366 So, pray tell, what was the imperialist plan for America to exploit Viet Nam?

We were meeting treaty obligations.  You know, that International Law thing lefties worship.  Except, apparently when it means aiding an ally against aggression.  And North Vietnam was definitely the aggressor - the VC were not an indigenous rebel group dissatisfied with RVN corruption.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at March 25, 2013 08:18 PM (XLQXo)

367 ::: Berman is a Svengali. A Charles Manson who taught English literature and warped/hurt/stunted hundreds of minds. ::: You just know for every Berman, there's ten more "brilliant" self-important devils floating around at these elite private child-molestation protection rings. Screw you, Horace Mann. If there was any justice the school would have been obliterated.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 08:18 PM (csi6Y)

368 360 Now hear this.

Any moron currently wearing pants is officially reprimanded.

That is all.

Carry on.

Posted by: Seamless Muldoon at March 26, 2013 12:14 AM (p8Mda)



SAFE!!!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2013 08:19 PM (kaalw)

369 ::: I canÂ’t imagine that in the late nineteen-sixties anyone would have been terribly surprised had they learned that some faculty were having sexual relations with students. Most would not have thought it good, but it was the way of the world. ::: ????? This guy is a craven fool, but worse than that, he is right.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 08:20 PM (csi6Y)

370 Bookmark this article when people bring up Catholic abuse scandals and priests should be allowed to marry.

Print out this article.  Glue it to a 2x4. And smack those idiots with your clue-bat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:20 PM (iGhmo)

371 350 Also, this week's edition of Load HEAT features Megan Mullally.

http://tinyurl.com/ca5awpp

Posted by: xbradtc at March 26, 2013 12:08 AM (O0L6N)


--Hot.  And isn't she the real-life wife of the dude who plays Ron Swanson?

Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2013 08:20 PM (+iA5G)

372 Thanks, Logprof, I don't care what everyone says, you're not a total douche!

Posted by: xbradtc at March 25, 2013 08:20 PM (O0L6N)

373 363 despite the full name of their movement being the "National Socialist Party"

"National Socialist German Worker's Party"

Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2013 12:16 AM (FcR7P)



OK, the first line expansion of their acronym. I was born in 1962, and was in public school until I graduated college in 1983. Why did I have to learn that Nazis were socialists on my own???

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2013 08:21 PM (kaalw)

374 @373, yep.

Posted by: xbradtc at March 25, 2013 08:21 PM (O0L6N)

375 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 26, 2013 12:20 AM (iGhmo) I agree. But priests should be allowed to marry anyway.

Posted by: alex® at March 25, 2013 08:22 PM (TT/cW)

376 Yoshi, or Fine is trying to obscure his own crimes by using the strawman of 'but everyone was doing it back then.'  Remember Fine is a student of Berman's or would that be an acolyte of that Svengali?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:22 PM (iGhmo)

377 “This was the late sixties, and what we now think of as rape or sexual assault didn’t quite mean the same thing in that age of sexual awakening,” Fine said. What some teachers did “was wrong, absolutely, but there are degrees of wrongness, and what was wrong in 1966 is today much more wrong. (...blah....blah....blah) *head----------->desk* The 60's will be my first stop when the TimeMachine® is fixed. Any day now.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 25, 2013 08:22 PM (CAGTx)

378 279 how are we ever going to come to any agreement with the other half of the country? No. Hence the revolution or a divorce, same goes for Colorado. I don't see any way of changing the hearts and minds of the left. I don't think we have that much time. But that is just me. Posted by: Infidel at March 25, 2013 11:39 PM (gqEUi) I moved to Colorado back in 2002. Liked the state. People were nice. I had just moved from Chicago and was glad for it. I moved out of Colorado two years ago. It is amazing how quickly things changed there. I miss the mountains. But having a job does put things like that in perspective. I pointed all the road signs west along the way so if anybody follows me, they'll end up in California.

Posted by: Prepositions Fists And A Beginners SMOD Kit at March 25, 2013 08:23 PM (f4m0b)

379 To make Fine and others wince quote  "The fault lies not in the stars but in us."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:23 PM (iGhmo)

380 364 "So we have to wear skirts now?"

It's a kilt, dammit

Posted by: The Q at March 25, 2013 08:24 PM (yVmMc)

381 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 26, 2013 12:22 AM (iGhmo) True, but it's bleedingly obvious that most of the other teachers were in on it, or at least knew enough to suspect but never summoned the courage to do so.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 08:24 PM (csi6Y)

382 And its a sporran and not a belt purse.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:24 PM (iGhmo)

383 Love you all truly madly deeply, but I gotta bail.  While today did not pack anywhere close to the suckitude of the preceding week, I have to remember that it is Only Monday.  In fact, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out that is the etymology of that whole "OM" thing . . .

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 08:25 PM (8lmkt)

384
It still goes on. Just last month I got an email with new spots from a client. CD quality is 44.1 kilohertz in stereo. These ads were 11 kilohertz in mono...it sounded like they'd been recorded over a telephone, and they were scheduled to start the next day. I told the boss there was no way ads that crappy were airing on any station I was associated with. It's flippin' embarassing.

Hello, Horde!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Lonely Dude at March 26, 2013 12:14 AM (5J54Q)


Do advertisers still send in 35 second long 30 second ads? Those always made a couple of satellite shows we ran sound real professional. Plus we had a "dual market" and we had a stick in the smaller distant market so that we had a primo signal there. Our goal was to run the same programming with separate ads but the lack of conformity in the ad lengths really screwed it up.


But television, oh the Gods of television would never allow them to do that so their ads were 30 and 60, not 31 and 61.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 08:26 PM (Zd/NW)

385 Yoshi, they looked the other way while evil flourished. 

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:26 PM (iGhmo)

386 1. Expand the number of background checks required for a guaranteed right.
2. Narrow the slot for who qualifies. ("You want a gun?!? Yer frootloops.)
3. Isolate and vilify. Use the mass culture. Ridicule.
4. Seize. B/c emergency and all that. "You didn't buy that." "We're taking 40% b/c we have to take 40% of your after-tax accounts." "Hunting? You just need to practice with that longbow/crossbow with field points only."

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 08:26 PM (1V6Pv)

387 Why did I have to learn that Nazis were socialists on my own??? Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2013 12:21 AM (kaalw) Because your teachers were socialists too.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 08:27 PM (bxiXv)

388 @387 Didn't you promise not to go all Burkean on us?!?

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 08:27 PM (1V6Pv)

389 And cthulhu your teacher smelt of elderberries.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:28 PM (iGhmo)

390 Thorvald, twas not me. Perchance tis someone else?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:28 PM (iGhmo)

391

McQueen ranks as the coolest, ever.  Let that be understood.

 

A close second would be Paul Newman.  Sure, a libtard, but loyal to his wife of many decades, and a serious race car driver into his 80s.

 

And I mean 80s.  As in years, not MPH.

 

Lee Marvin was cool to a degree, but he was aware of himself, took stock of his coolness, thus limiting it.

 

Mitchum was cool, but a drunken libertine.  Lack of self discipline, just aint cool.

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 25, 2013 08:29 PM (vvk2F)

392 390 @387 Didn't you promise not to go all Burkean on us?!? Posted by: Thorvald at March 26, 2013 12:27 AM (1V6Pv) Why would anyone promise that?

Posted by: alex® at March 25, 2013 08:29 PM (TT/cW)

393

That Horace Mann story is fucking terrifying. Very well-written, but horrible. That's the kind of story that makes you kind of get some of the helicopter parenting people do. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at March 25, 2013 11:14 PM (OryqQ)

 

 It really is horrible. And not only the physical sexual abuse - the way the guy mindfucked them, turned them against their own parents, made them believe they were budding literary geniuses. When I was a teen and fighting with my parents all the time, one of the few classes I liked was English class because I was blessed with some very good (non-exploitative) teachers. I can understand very well how a mesmerizing teacher, introducing kids to great lit, could get into the heads of these boys and make them think he had the magic code for living a great life. And how their rejection of his advances would mean that they were unworthy schubs who weren't destined for greatness.

 Of course, he wouldn't have been interested in me. I'm female.

Posted by: Donna V. at March 25, 2013 08:30 PM (R3gO3)

394 A close second would be Paul Newman. Sure, a libtard, Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at March 26, 2013 12:29 AM (vvk2F) But a pro-nuke power libtard.

Posted by: alex® at March 25, 2013 08:30 PM (TT/cW)

395 I would think most major ad carriers that accept outside-made ads have an ironclad policy: your recording MUST BE 29 or 59 seconds long, no more, no exceptions. And if something is received that is longer than those, your contract is void... but your up-front fees are nonrefundable.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2013 08:31 PM (7B7jB)

396 Speaking of nuke power, probably should work on the origin story for that idea was bouncing off MWR and EC earlier today. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:31 PM (iGhmo)

397

It's a kilt, dammit

 

New topic: The Army should adopt a tactical kilt for wear in the field.  Agree / Disagree?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 08:32 PM (lr3d7)

398 391 And cthulhu your teacher smelt of elderberries.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 26, 2013 12:28 AM (iGhmo)



As if it were only one. I didn't stay at the same school for more than a year until 5th/6th grade.....and after that it was 11th/12th (and then I did college in 3 years, 2 quarters). My folks moved a lot.



I had my issues even before the Nazi thing -- when I was a kid, I'd read European histories....and -- surprise, surprise! -- they didn't match up with the school's American history textbooks. As in, try to find "The French and Indian War" in anything not created by a US school board.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2013 08:34 PM (kaalw)

399 374 Thanks, Logprof, I don't care what everyone says, you're not a total douche!

Posted by: xbradtc at March 26, 2013 12:20 AM (O0L6N)


--Thanks!

Posted by: logprof, only 95% douche at March 25, 2013 08:34 PM (+iA5G)

400 Sand Pebbles. My father in law was actually on a gun boat in China during that period. My husband said he never had anything bad to say about Mao, because he'd seen what dreadful lives they'd lived before the Revolution.

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 25, 2013 08:35 PM (Lqy/e)

401 I think I saw one of the dumbest things I've ever seen, a hand-carved e-cig pipe that was in the shape of Gandolf's pipe and yet I'm actually tempted to look and buy one myself

Posted by: The Dude at March 25, 2013 08:35 PM (vJdyz)

402

Anna, how is the writing coming along?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 08:36 PM (lr3d7)

403 402 Sand Pebbles. My father in law was actually on a gun boat in China during that period. My husband said he never had anything bad to say about Mao, because he'd seen what dreadful lives they'd lived before the Revolution. Posted by: notsothoreau at March 26, 2013 12:35 AM (Lqy/e) If he were really paying attention, he would have noticed a few had gone missing in the interim.

Posted by: alex® at March 25, 2013 08:37 PM (TT/cW)

404 Greg Gutfield tweeted this, it's funny

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281083705945

Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 08:38 PM (mCvL4)

405 Hopeless, Thanks! But I have no idea how to find that out. I've only been around here since just before the election. Things seem a bit...chaotic? here at times. In a good way. By the way, is this a thing? It seems like Ace could make all sorts of posts about the negative impacts of liberalism and but say it'll do that, in a good way. Because bondage to state and the elite (but I repeat myself) and neoluddism are part and parcel of modern liberalism anyway. Obamacare will require board approval via satisfaction of the 32 point MRI checklist before determining if you are eligible to be put on the waiting list for the machine. Many ailments heal themselves, and this will allow time for that to happen. It will also reduce greenhouse gas emissions! Cutting trillions from our future health budget as we ameliorate the ravages of climate change on public health. So this program will diminish the availability of the procedures and increase the wait time--in a good way.

Posted by: .87c at March 25, 2013 08:38 PM (FVdef)

406 @402 And still do.
Those parents who didn't give a prepubescent daughter to the paedophile Mao were nonetheless prevented from bearing a second child.
Your own family ruled by the state.
Socialism or malaria? No contest. Socialism killed 'way more.
Disagree? Send me your GPS loc and let's talk, ok?

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 08:39 PM (1V6Pv)

407 Is it wrong that I would vote for someone whose campaign slogan was "Time to cull the herd?"  Because I am kinda there, and I'm not sure that's the beer talking.

Posted by: Peaches at March 25, 2013 08:39 PM (8lmkt)

408 You know the other funny thing. This type of predatory filth masquerading as intellectualism could never have worked up such a mystique about himself if he was a science teacher. I love literature, and writing. But at a certain point, when your profession is about the imaginary and the intangible - bluntly, nothing - you realize literary analysis is making something out of nothing. Berman clearly learned that lesson early.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 25, 2013 08:40 PM (csi6Y)

409 Not as fast as I want if that is what you mean Colorado Alex.  Made some progress on novel, but not a lot.  Then MWR tossed out this crazy pulp science fiction title a few days ago and we have been thrashing it out since.  Got a few ideas of how to proceed from our brain storming.  But need to write the 'origin' story to set out the ground rules before anything else happens.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:40 PM (iGhmo)

410

Is it wrong that I would vote for someone whose campaign slogan was "Time to cull the herd?" Because I am kinda there, and I'm not sure that's the beer talking.

 

I'm the same way.  I'm at the point where I've started looking at stupid libs and thinking, "I hope when everything collapses, I can be the one to shoot you." 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 08:41 PM (lr3d7)

411 393 "A close second would be Paul Newman. Sure, a libtard,"

"Tropic Thunder" taught us about the dangers of going full retard.

Newman went halfway - Redford went full libtard

Posted by: The Q at March 25, 2013 08:42 PM (yVmMc)

412 Feel that this nick would be more appropriate given what I'm wearing in the ONT

Posted by: The Rowdy Roddy Kilt Wearing Q at March 25, 2013 08:43 PM (yVmMc)

413 397 I would think most major ad carriers that accept outside-made ads have an ironclad policy: your recording MUST BE 29 or 59 seconds long, no more, no exceptions. And if something is received that is longer than those, your contract is void... but your up-front fees are nonrefundable.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2013 12:31 AM (7B7jB)


Yeah, that works well. The entertainment industry is made up of whores. Local radio stations fight over pennies, so a local/regional advertiser that sends them a 34 second ad gets their ad played, in entirety. TV stations can always talk about their network, so the advertisers make sure that their ads are 30/60. Radio doesn't have that since most of its programming is local.  Advertisers treat TV like it is the second coming while radio is thought of as being hick cousin who lives in a van down near the docks.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at March 25, 2013 08:45 PM (Zd/NW)

414

Anna,

 

You have my sympathies.  I'm about 2500 words into this story and am hitting writer's block something fierce.  At least the alcohol and nicotine seem to have loosened me up a little bit.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 08:45 PM (lr3d7)

415

About Fine: what is wrong now was wrong in 1966, so he's full of shit. But I remember that mindset: sex is always 100% good and it's wonderful when children discover their sexuality and they shouldn't repress it or they'd become uptight prudes. Does anybody else remember a godawful book called "Our Bodies, Ourselves" by the Boston Women's Collective? My sister had it as a textbook for a class at a CATHOLIC women's college in the '70's. The book was '70's feminism at it's worse - full of ugly women with hairy bodies celebrating their femaleness. I remember one story in it about how a feminista's little 4 year old daughter peed into a cardboard toliet paper roll in the middle of the living room and the feminista thought that was great. She enjoyed the shock of her "prudish"50's mother, who disapproved of kids peeing on the floor.

 

With the attitude that sex is great and sexualized kids are great, well, it's not surprising that some sick adults rationalized that they'd "help" the kiddies down the path of sexual discovery and that they were doing the kids a favor by initiating them. There have always been child molesters. When the sexual revolution rolled around the pervs didn't feel so freaky any more.

Posted by: Donna V. at March 25, 2013 08:45 PM (R3gO3)

416 Colorado Alex, what is the stumbling block?  Motivation?  You hate your main character? 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:46 PM (iGhmo)

417

Colorado Alex, what is the stumbling block? Motivation? You hate your main character?

 

Just one scene that I don't know how to write.  The main character is having dinner with the lady of the manor and her husband, and he's supposed to impress her with his culture.  The result is that he is invited to stay despite her husband's initial hesitation.  I've just bracketed a summary of what I want and am moving on to the next chapter.  Once I have more of the story written, I can come back to it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 08:49 PM (lr3d7)

418 and thinking, "I hope when everything collapses, I can be the one to shoot you."

They'll probably starve to death before that has to happen.  They think food comes from the store.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 08:50 PM (/gHaE)

419 Good evening Moron-nation.

Posted by: zeera at March 25, 2013 08:51 PM (3dXwx)

420 William Shatner ‏@WilliamShatner

So I watched that IRS video. I am appalled at the utter waste of US tax dollars.


Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 08:52 PM (mCvL4)

421 @408, no, I'm no fan of Mao. I'm just quoting what he said. He told about seeing a coolie pulling a rickshaw, drop dead. Another man ran up, pushed the body out of the way and took off with the fare in the rickshaw. It was his rice bowl now. The father-in-law grew up in the backwoods of Louisiana, dirt poor, and thought I was white trash because I grew up in a blue collar household in Oklahoma. I'm sure as hell not going to defend anything he had to say.

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 25, 2013 08:52 PM (Lqy/e)

422 So is this manor off the beaten path?  Not many parties to attend or host?  Starved of gossip since far from London or Paris or Rome?  Or does the lady of the manor fancy herself a patron of the arts that her husband humours whilst your main character knows far more than she and thus he must tread carefully least he insult her?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:53 PM (iGhmo)

423 Just one scene that I don't know how to write. The main character is having dinner with the lady of the manor and her husband, and he's supposed to impress her with his culture. The result is that he is invited to stay despite her husband's initial hesitation. I've just bracketed a summary of what I want and am moving on to the next chapter. Once I have more of the story written, I can come back to it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 26, 2013 12:49 AM (lr3d7)

 

He presents his right hand to her when   he  asks her to "Pull my finger"

Posted by: buzzion at March 25, 2013 08:54 PM (GULKT)

424 While stationed at Anderson AFB, Guam I saw a few pictures  from the height of Linebacker II....something like 170 parking ramps, aka "lollipops" filled with B-52s....an amazing sight to behold.  

Posted by: Icedog at March 25, 2013 08:54 PM (ZolUS)

425 PurpAv, they will be the ones going , "Siri! Where is the closest Thai place!?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:54 PM (iGhmo)

426 About Fine: what is wrong now was wrong in 1966, so he's full of shit. But I remember that mindset: sex is always 100% good and it's wonderful when children discover their sexuality and they shouldn't repress it or they'd become uptight prudes. Posted by: Donna V. at March 26, 2013 12:45 AM (R3gO3) You preach it sister!

Posted by: Alfred Kinsey at March 25, 2013 08:56 PM (Vk2pI)

427

I love literature, and writing. But at a certain point, when your profession is about the imaginary and the intangible - bluntly, nothing - you realize literary analysis is making something out of nothing. Berman clearly learned that lesson early. Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 26, 2013 12:40 AM (csi6Y)

 

Excellent point. Norman Mailer once wrote an essay praising young black thugs who had beaten a white store owner to death. I remember in college I read some literary analysis of that essay which said Mailer was brilliantly subverting conventional morality, blah, blah, blah. It was then I became aware that the world of literature was not always about the good and great and the "best that has been said and thought." There's also a lot of weasels out there sprouting morally repellent horseshit. Not an original or brilliant insight on my part - it was just the first time it struck me.

 

It was a good lesson to learn.

Posted by: Donna V. at March 25, 2013 08:56 PM (R3gO3)

428 I'm about 2500 words into this story and am hitting writer's block something fierce.

Three suggestions. 

If you don't have a plot outline of basic characters and scenes, its time to create one.

Speak a chapter/scene out loud as if narrating 3rd party.

Start writing complete crap you know will be revised or tossed later on.  Just get the fingers moving. 

If you haven't revised some section at least 10-20 times before you're done, then its not done.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 08:56 PM (/gHaE)

429

He's a mercenary who was hired to retrieve their runaway daughter.  His backstory is that he's a former officer in a prestigious cavalry regiment who left in disgrace after being framed.  In addition to his military service, he grew up under the care of an uncle who was a magician, so he's actually quite educated.

 

The lady's husband is her second one, and in the story is in fact a dark magician who is conducting obscene rituals and using the women and servants to do so.  Obviously, hilarity ensues

 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 08:57 PM (lr3d7)

430 MrCaniac, at FoxNews in DC the radio guys have a small cluster of offices on a studio. Not sure if the other big players let the radio guys in the same building.

Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 08:57 PM (QH36x)

431 "Start writing complete crap you know will be revised or tossed later on. Just get the fingers moving. " So that's where the Star Trek plot devices came from.

Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 08:58 PM (QH36x)

432 Nuanced 60's paedophilia = paedophilia.
Can we get Ayers on this? President Michael Jackson?
In the early 1900s it was legal here.
For a long time it was not an issue outside the 12-mile limit.
Now it is in the realm of thought crime: some rogue website hijacks your browser, they bust you for the ghost thumbnails of the pictures you never downloaded.
Dam' fool, or felon/danger to The People?
Depends on your politics in the 21st-c.
That ain't right.
What's wrong is wrong. The law should reflect such, and not be a seine to gather political enemies on some pretext.
That said, I'd love to get a team working on L'il Barry in Pock-E-stahn.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 08:58 PM (1V6Pv)

433 Colorado Alex go rummage in the Gregory magazine thread.  That is where we thrashed out a lot of the issues with the 'Scintillating Nymphs of Asse' who's origin story I must still write.  You may find yourself wanting to write a story set in it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 08:59 PM (iGhmo)

434 So, where can I get one of these industrial-strength laser pointers? Anyone got any tips? Brand names, distributors, etc. Purely for informational purposes, you understand.

I do know where, but being trained as a laser safety officer, hell if I'd tell you.  The laser classes and safety levels are set by ANSI standard for good reason.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at March 25, 2013 08:59 PM (opLk0)

435

@PurpAv

I'm doing all of that already: I've got an outline of the story that I'm working from, a lot of "filler" that I'll go back and edit later, and I've wandered in circles around my apartment talking out the scene.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 09:00 PM (lr3d7)

436 @429 Could not have said it better myself. Similar experience here.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 25, 2013 09:00 PM (1V6Pv)

437 433 "So that's where the Star Trek plot devices came from."

You shut your alien green whore mouth!

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at March 25, 2013 09:00 PM (yVmMc)

438 433 "Start writing complete crap you know will be revised or tossed later on. Just get the fingers moving. "

So that's where the Star Trek plot devices came from.

Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2013 12:58 AM (QH36x)

 

You   want to take  a left, and then just straight on through the chompers.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZODzdqVptUs

Posted by: Galaxy Quest at March 25, 2013 09:01 PM (GULKT)

439 Right now with my story, got way too much being talked and emoted in a room.  Need to escape that room and get the plot moving again. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 09:02 PM (iGhmo)

440 My trollbuster content, can't waste content, 432 MrCaniac, at FoxNews in DC the radio guys have a small cluster of offices on a studio. Not sure if the other big players let the radio guys in the same building. Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2013 12:57 AM (QH36x) Then "Start writing complete crap you know will be revised or tossed later on. Just get the fingers moving. " So that's where the Star Trek plot devices come from.

Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 09:03 PM (X1lGS)

441 @Cthulhu, re govt and chainsaws, I couldn't agree more. I am aiming at building ju-jitsu style methods to convince both the squishy middle and the squishy opposition that we need to do this. The more we convert (or at least sideline), the easier our work becomes. (taking a practice break to comment; audition prep sucks) @Mindy, I am fond of getting liberal friends to reconsider by backblasting their own arguments in a certain style. There is complex structure behind my methods (cognitive science, psych, philosophy, neuroscience, etc, plus practical knowledge, the taming of which is the focus of the summer project), but what it starts with is my unexpectedly spiking their guns with their own axioms. For example, I respond to militant pro-gay marriage Facebook posts by commenting "Promoting tolerance through bullying, are we?" or something similar. Or, at need, I point out that if half the population is stupid, then democracy is necessarily a farce. Once they are knocked off stride, they can sometimes be reasoned with. Sometimes. More often they just develop a little respect for other opinions. If I have time to get Socratic, however, I can bring out the big guns and alter their worldview. Emotion being what it is, that usually takes several sessions. 8-)

Posted by: Piercello at March 25, 2013 09:04 PM (E/6f0)

442 He's a mercenary who was hired to retrieve their runaway daughter.

Loosely, that's the plot of Mike Lundy's "Baby Farm". 

The ghost writer (Ed McBain) who reworked the original author's manuscript for Lyle Stuart fucked it up bad though and really wrecked the story.  The original was actually a largely true story and was hard to put down.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 09:04 PM (/gHaE)

443 LaserPointerForums dot com

Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 09:07 PM (X1lGS)

444

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at March 25, 2013 11:13 PM (LbHHd)


Dunno on industrial level but Wicked Lasers make really nice consumer ones. Love my Spider III with the lightsaber housing (when it's not jerry rigged to a rifle)

Posted by: The Dude at March 25, 2013 09:07 PM (vJdyz)

445 The lady's husband is her second one, and in the story is in fact a dark magician who is conducting obscene rituals and using the women and servants to do so. Obviously, hilarity ensues There a Count St. Germain plot in there somewhere...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 25, 2013 09:09 PM (TvO05)

446 My trollbuster content, can't waste content, 432 MrCaniac, at FoxNews in DC the radio guys have a small cluster of offices on a studio. Not sure if the other big players let the radio guys in the same building. Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2013 12:57 AM (QH36x) Then "Start writing complete crap you know will be revised or tossed later on. Just get the fingers moving. " So that's where the Star Trek plot devices come from. Then Laser pointer forums dot com, less space

Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 09:09 PM (fW/Ev)

447 Nanny Bloomberg wants drones to see if you're sipping a Big Gulp

http://tinyurl.com/cfcdt9t

Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 09:10 PM (mCvL4)

448 419
Colorado Alex, what is the stumbling block? Motivation? You hate your main character?

Just one scene that I don't know how to write. The main character is having dinner with the lady of the manor and her husband, and he's supposed to impress her with his culture. The result is that he is invited to stay despite her husband's initial hesitation. I've just bracketed a summary of what I want and am moving on to the next chapter. Once I have more of the story written, I can come back to it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 26, 2013 12:49 AM (lr3d7)



Have the guy repeatedly compliment the husband in ways that the wife will see as subtle criticisms because she's more educated.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2013 09:10 PM (kaalw)

449 Did I cure my leposy

Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 09:11 PM (fW/Ev)

450 Colorado Alex I will be most disappointed if there is not at least one ripped bodice in this story.  Plus the usual damsel in distress, unless you want to put the mercenary in peril and have the damsel rescue him. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 09:11 PM (iGhmo)

451 So, where can I get one of these industrial-strength laser pointers?
Anyone got any tips? Brand names, distributors, etc. Purely for
informational purposes, you understand.



Wickedlasers.com. I've been thinking of buying one for some time, but I'm afraid I'll shoot my eye out.

Posted by: schizoid at March 25, 2013 09:11 PM (kSGAe)

452 Cthulhu, our wives shouldn't get together

Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 09:12 PM (fW/Ev)

453 As for being creative, I am all in the "go thru the motions" school of thought. Just create, every day. Most of that which you create will be junk, but perhaps 5-10% will be good. Keep the good stuff, throw away the junk. As you get some experience, you start to discern. But never let a day go by where you fail to create. Except for vacations, weddings, births, and funerals. All other times, just do it. If you do that, you will come through the time of one year with 3 hit songs, 3 good short stories, or 3 good web sites, because the numbers are on your side.

What I just stated was not original, of course, far from it. I learned it from Sammy Cahn.

Have a work ethic. Abide by it.

Posted by: navybrat at March 25, 2013 09:13 PM (S8AWK)

454 Wickedlasers.com. I've been thinking of buying one for some time, but I'm afraid I'll shoot my eye out.

Posted by: schizoid at March 26, 2013 01:11 AM (kSGAe)


They really do hurt when point them at skin from about up 15 feet and they can and will leave scorch marks on the ceiling




This game looks really good but Clair de Lune makes anything great
http://tinyurl.com/ce79265

Posted by: The Dude at March 25, 2013 09:14 PM (vJdyz)

455 Colorado Alex I will be most disappointed if there is not at least one ripped bodice in this story. Well Yeah ... the woman caught it on a nail when she was testing Leonardo's mechanical wings ...

Posted by: Adriane is completely clueless on certain concepts ... at March 25, 2013 09:15 PM (TvO05)

456 *blinks*  The US government blew $300,000 in 2009 on an aerial survey to find out where wild animals in the 1960s pooped radioactive droppings at Hanford.
http://tinyurl.com/ykhd4q7

Night of the Lepus anyone?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 09:16 PM (iGhmo)

457 'allo.  

Hey Anna, did you see the artsy link from the other night's ONT? 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2013 09:17 PM (7um7O)

458

Colorado Alex I will be most disappointed if there is not at least one ripped bodice in this story. Plus the usual damsel in distress, unless you want to put the mercenary in peril and have the damsel rescue him


Anna, the sex scenes were all in my last short story.  It actually started out as an exercise after Tammy told me that I needed to write porn.    And yes, the stepdaughter does end up in distress.  I've got the final scene largely mapped out, with the magician Viscini preparing to cast his spell while using the girl's, Penthelia, young suitor as his sacrifice when the mercenary Cerr bursts in and battles the magician's possessed servants, including Penthelia.  There's magic, and swordplay, and sacrifice, and sorrow. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 09:18 PM (lr3d7)

459 In other hilarious news: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-25/ have-russians-already-quietly-withdrawn-all-their-cash-cyprus .



If true, my hat's off to 'em. The banksters think they'll screw the Russians by proxy in Cyprus, the Russians slip the noose. The only way it could have been better was if the banksters ended up screwed themselves.....and it could easily still happen.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2013 09:18 PM (kaalw)

460 I've got an outline of the story that I'm working from, a lot of "filler" that I'll go back and edit later, and I've wandered in circles around my apartment talking out the scene.

Sounds like you're over thinking it or have written yourself down a rabbit hole you don't know how to get out of.  Just move on to the next chapter for now.

...and then the boiler blew up.

Chapter n+1

...after coming to in the wreckage, John looked around stunned and staggered towards his car.
<blah><blah><blah>

That kind of thing is an easy out that lets you move on for now and if you keep it, it can tie up a lot of dangling shit you might have had to jump through hoops to tie up otherwise.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 09:20 PM (/gHaE)

461


What I just stated was not original, of course, far from it. I learned it from Sammy Cahn.

Have a work ethic. Abide by it.


I've found that to be the key to anything.  It takes time to get into "writing mode" and the more you practice it the easier it becomes.  Plus the hardest part is getting that first draft done.  You can edit all day long, if you have something to work with.  A blank piece of paper is like an endless desert that you have to cross, and about as frightening at times.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 09:20 PM (lr3d7)

462

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 01:20 AM (/gHaE)


That's what I've been doing.  I just put "[description of the scene]", highlight it in yellow, and then move on.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 25, 2013 09:21 PM (lr3d7)

463 I guess I missed it Conservative Crank.

Sound like you do have some daring-do in store for your characters.  I to have such a thrilling almost climax for my story.  But I am mired about eight hours before that happens trying to escape a room.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 09:22 PM (iGhmo)

464 Well this I guess is an apt description of a forest - "an area dominated by tree vegetation."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 09:25 PM (iGhmo)

465 A shark with two heads: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/25/two_headed_bull_shark_fetus_found/

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 25, 2013 09:25 PM (Vk2pI)

466 Not getting the nicotine I crave anymore from regular smokes

Posted by: The Dude at March 25, 2013 09:27 PM (vJdyz)

467 That's not a land shark is it TPH?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 09:27 PM (iGhmo)

468
Maybe that was the place I was thinking of. I read "A Fatal Shore" by Robert Hughes a long time ago. That book stayed with me.

 

Posted by: Donna V. at March 26, 2013 12:09 AM

 

Norfolk was pretty horrific and like Port Arthur, is going to stick in one's memory so it's a good call, anyway. Macquarie Harbour is more obscure, for some reason, possibly because it didn't last all that long. It was the Alcatraz of the colonies for breakout artists and the worst of the worst. Hanging was considered preferable to that place, by many. At least it would be quick. Escaping usually meant taking a number of fellow convicts with you, so you would have something to eat. "Fatal Shore" is a ggreat history. Pretty revealing and pulls no punches.

 

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2013 09:28 PM (yBF/9)

469 hey, anyone know how to get a motherfucking schwa symbol in microsoft word?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 25, 2013 09:31 PM (Z9EHQ)

470 Insert symbol and look for it in the webdings and wingdings chart? - mac word, anyway ...

Posted by: Adriane is completely clueless on certain concepts ... at March 25, 2013 09:33 PM (TvO05)

471

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2013 01:31 AM (Z9EHQ)


depends on which version you're using but check the fonts. There should be a phonetic font which includes it

Posted by: The Dude at March 25, 2013 09:34 PM (vJdyz)

472 A blank piece of paper is like an endless desert that you have to cross, and about as frightening at times.

It helps to take a story you lived through and tweak it a bit.  I stayed with "Mike Lundy" (retired NYPD detective) for about a year when he was cranking shit out. 

http://openlibrary.org/works/OL1740586W/Raven

Almost every manuscript he wrote was from his real life experiences as a detective.  The story, basic dialog, were all true even though they were presented as "fiction". 

He'd relate a story verbally, then have a first cut manuscript 3 days later...and that was working on an PC with dual floppy and Wordstar.

If you can talk the story from beginning to end in some detail, use that as your first cut.  Dialog specifics and fluff can be injected later as needed.

When creating the first draft he never edited anything.  Grammar errors, spelling errors, sentence fragments, continuity issues, etc were all ignored.  He only had one direction -- forward at maximum warp.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 09:35 PM (/gHaE)

473 Yes? Yes!

http://tinyurl.com/cocp8qc

Posted by: The Dude at March 25, 2013 09:35 PM (vJdyz)

474 anyone know how to get a motherfucking schwa symbol in microsoft word? Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2013 01:31 AM (Z9EHQ) Copypasta from the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa Or copypasta from here: http://www.theworldofstuff.com/characters/

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 25, 2013 09:36 PM (Vk2pI)

475 Adriane! The Dude! The Political Hat! Thanks so much. You are fine morons.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 25, 2013 09:38 PM (Z9EHQ)

476 Repost @ Anna:  

Since you linked a pic of your figurine, a WoW sketch of mine:
http://tinyurl.com/bkb7rwb

What I wish I could draw:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/afn25bl

Would have liked a pic of *your* figurine, unpainted or not, but hey.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2013 09:38 PM (7um7O)

477 Here's an early one for the DOOM thread

Cyprus is delaying bank re-opening again;

http://tinyurl.com/d4vehrd

Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2013 09:39 PM (mCvL4)

478 http://tinyurl.com/c6jpky4

lol

Posted by: The Dude at March 25, 2013 09:39 PM (vJdyz)

479 A German David Bowman, "Mein Gott! Its full of schwa!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 09:39 PM (iGhmo)

480 Cyprus is delaying bank re-opening again

I guess they didn't get the message with the first bomb...

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 09:41 PM (/gHaE)

481 Conservative Crank, looks like you have the chibi art style down pat.  That other image, careful to never anger a scholar and magician. 

Ano?  What figurine?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 09:44 PM (iGhmo)

482 And here I assumed everyone story boarded everything with Lego people and a web cam before writing

Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 09:46 PM (QH36x)

483 Delaying bank openings again?  Nicosia, Cyprus what are you thinking?

People will start to use bulldozers to make forced with drawls from banks.  While Anonymous will hack online to liberate peoples money.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 09:48 PM (iGhmo)

484 And here I assumed everyone story boarded everything with Lego people and a web cam before writing

Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 09:48 PM (fW/Ev)

485 Pixy hates my proxy tonight

Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2013 09:49 PM (fW/Ev)

486 Am a monster, not a crank.  = P

You linked a pic of the figurine you have that you haven't painted yet, that was causing you to wait on the other 2 figurines you just bought.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2013 09:50 PM (7um7O)

487 People will start to use bulldozers to make forced with drawls from banks

Yep.  In the small rural upstate NY town I grew up in one of the local rednecks used a backhoe at a nearby construction site to forcibly remove an ATM one night maybe 15 years ago and tote it away.

The cops found the backhoe a few miles down the road, I don't know if they ever found the ATM or who did it, but I'm guessing alcohol was involved somehow...

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 09:55 PM (/gHaE)

488 Sorry about the mis-naming there.  Opps, try not to let that happen again.

Well I have started on the figure.  But tis a daunting thing.

Good gosh I am creating a 'source document' or story bible for that story.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 09:55 PM (iGhmo)

489 Goodnight morons. Good luck with your plots.

Posted by: Donna V. at March 25, 2013 09:58 PM (R3gO3)

490 cyprus - someone should simply open the seacocks and let the place go peacefully.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 25, 2013 10:01 PM (Z9EHQ)

491 Oh, and both of those are actually WoW paladins.  

Heavily armored ladies armed with might and magic.    Am rather partial to those.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2013 10:02 PM (7um7O)

492 What's this??!? Fear and trepidation over plot devices, symbolism and story-writing? Perhaps some Richard Burton .... http://tinyurl.com/c96v3m4 Holy Truman Capote.

Posted by: Arbalest at March 25, 2013 10:03 PM (QSLf4)

493 Write, Anna, Write! I need someone to compete with next month.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 10:03 PM (bxiXv)

494 Ok, 3 episodes of Walking dead later. Andrea gave up her weapon, and is now tied to a chair with duct tape on her mouth about to be tortured.

Posted by: lou's a girl at March 25, 2013 10:04 PM (vgd4f)

495 Merovign.  I keep hoping your antique computers will suck you in and take you the Grid...   only way I can compete. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 10:05 PM (iGhmo)

496 Peaches, if the iMac without a dvd drive has firewire you can start it in "target disk mode" and connect it to the new iMac with a firewire cable. It will show up as an external drive and you can run the disk utility and overwrite the whole thing many multiple times. It will make it somewhat secure but not NSA secure.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 25, 2013 10:06 PM (PtWmF)

497 Here is one of the vignettes I created in the earlier thread.
-------
*pauses at a thought*

Silly Social Democrat tool holds up a sign outside the German Army's attempts to contain the nymphs. "Save the Nymphs!" or "Nymphs: Menace or Misunderstood."

Next to the male SD tool is an unkempt and hairy armpit SD female tool holding up a sign reading "Death to the Nymphs!" while glaring at the guy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 10:06 PM (iGhmo)

498 sup, y'all?

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 25, 2013 10:07 PM (zzeVM)

499 492 Merovign. I keep hoping your antique computers will suck you in and take you the Grid... only way I can compete. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 26, 2013 02:05 AM (iGhmo) Umm, yeah. I spent all evening finding out the DC inverter + board on my "new" IBM 770 is bad. The only reason I haven't ordered a new one is I can't be sure it's the *only* thing that's bad. My guess is someone stuck a 19v power supply in the 16v port. That's what usually happens. Looks like temperature signs around the power port. Mulling it over. I could get my money back selling it for parts, or roll the dice on the replacement board, which is about $15, but might not fix it. If I had a working one I'd just test the parts and sell the good ones. Hobbies cost money. I should have been installing ReactOS on the BeOS laptop tonight.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 10:09 PM (bxiXv)

500 495 sup, y'all? Posted by: Jake in ID at March 26, 2013 02:07 AM (zzeVM) Apparently not much.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 10:15 PM (bxiXv)

501 Happy umlating, yankeefifth ...

Posted by: Adriane is completely clueless on certain concepts ... at March 25, 2013 10:17 PM (TvO05)

502 Happy Monday, Jake in ID ... today has been an all over the place kind of day ...

Posted by: Adriane is completely clueless on certain concepts ... at March 25, 2013 10:18 PM (TvO05)

503 I just finished a few things and was checking in here

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 25, 2013 10:18 PM (zzeVM)

504 I did get a thyroid pill down the cat with minimal anguish for both me and the cat ...

Posted by: Adriane is completely clueless on certain concepts ... at March 25, 2013 10:19 PM (TvO05)

505 And in the real world, DHS bought a shit loader bullets today, Nothing to see here, move along.

Posted by: lou's a girl at March 25, 2013 10:21 PM (vgd4f)

506

 

So...anybody seen or heard from Assad yet, hmmmmm???

 

I thought he was on some ship at sea. No wifi?

Posted by: Meremortal at March 25, 2013 10:21 PM (1Y+hH)

507 made it up to #150. can't... go... on... but... 'Twas the like of Jane Fonda in NVN inoculated me 'gainst leftyhood even in my ignerntest days. So there's that.

Posted by: a mindful webworker at March 25, 2013 10:22 PM (wPzgV)

508 Merovign, just part it out.  Move on to other projects.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 10:23 PM (iGhmo)

509 confession time, I love that stupid michael bolton jack sparrow video. It is superbly executed stupid. It makes me chuckle and grin like joe biden failing a bar exam every time I watch the vid.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 25, 2013 10:24 PM (Z9EHQ)

510 Happy umlating, yankeefifth ... Posted by: Adriane Thaks!

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 25, 2013 10:25 PM (Z9EHQ)

511 I spent all evening finding out the DC inverter + board on my "new" IBM 770 is bad.

Probably just bad diodes on diode bridge or a bad VRM on the bridge output.

Those won't be tiny SMT stuff due to the power levels involved.  snip, snip, solder, solder.  Good as new.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 10:26 PM (/gHaE)

512 I'm on a DOOM! bender, I think the whole shiter-y is going to fall apart in the short term. The College Boy we got in the WH right now is a not confidense booster

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 25, 2013 10:27 PM (zzeVM)

513 491 Ok, 3 episodes of Walking dead later. Andrea gave up her weapon, and is now tied to a chair with duct tape on her mouth about to be tortured. Posted by: lou's a girl at March 26, 2013 02:04 AM (vgd4f) Can't watch that anymore; I hope the zombies win. And I ran out of Breaking Bad episodes on netflix after a week and week-end long marathon.

Posted by: alex® at March 25, 2013 10:27 PM (TT/cW)

514   I need someone to compete with next month. 

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 26, 2013 02:03 AM (bxiXv)



A picture is worth a thousand words, right?     

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2013 10:32 PM (7um7O)

515 http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Harzburg

"The castle on the Burgberg called the Harzburg is famous in German history. It was built between 1065 and 1069, but was laid in ruins by the Saxons in 1074; again it was built and again destroyed during the struggle between the emperor Henry IV. and the Saxons."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 10:32 PM (iGhmo)

516 Night all. Here is "Creature Lives" by Mastadon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxALZkrAIIE

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 25, 2013 10:33 PM (Vk2pI)

517 This Weeds season 8 is kinda teh suck so far from the episodes I've watched.  Too much vapid soap opera, and not enough weed dealing or murdering.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 10:33 PM (/gHaE)

518 505 Merovign, just part it out. Move on to other projects. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 26, 2013 02:23 AM (iGhmo) And that would end up being another old IBM, because I was specifically looking for that. Because toy. Those won't be tiny SMT stuff due to the power levels involved. snip, snip, solder, solder. Good as new. Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 02:26 AM (/gHaE) It's an IBM. Everything except two large caps and a couple of ICs is SMT. I could probably eventually puzzle it out, but I would spend way more than $15 on it in the process. I may just keep an eye out for something of the same vintage. I loved my old 600E and should not have got rid of it, but there you are. It's a hobby thing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 10:34 PM (bxiXv)

519 Running over the same ground
What have we found?
The same old fear
Wish you were here


Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 25, 2013 10:34 PM (xjpRj)

520 A picture is worth a thousand words, right? Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 26, 2013 02:32 AM (7um7O) Not since teh intartubes.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 10:35 PM (bxiXv)

521 Everyone needs a hobby, Dark Lord ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 25, 2013 10:35 PM (TvO05)

522 Oh by the way, which one's Pink? ... means something very different to younger generation ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 25, 2013 10:38 PM (TvO05)

523 Oh by the way, which one's Pink? ... means something very different to younger generation ... Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 26, 2013 02:38 AM (TvO05)/i] Wankers...

Posted by: Syd Barret at March 25, 2013 10:39 PM (Vk2pI)

524 It's a hobby thing.

I know...I'm fiddling a IBM Server 310 back to life tonight (basically a PC 750 stood on edge with server'ish cosmetic plastic)

Its gonna be a Windows95 machine to run the EPROM burner, because my parallel port EPROM burner's software runs on Win95, and its too stupid to recognize the bidirectional DMA parallel ports on a PS/2 Model 95. 

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 10:39 PM (/gHaE)

525 Wankers... Posted by: Syd Barret at March 26, 2013 02:39 AM (Vk2pI) You wanna start a fight?!?

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 25, 2013 10:41 PM (TvO05)

526 510 Alex, just saying, she gave up her gun, now tied to a chair waiting for torture.

Posted by: lou's a girl at March 25, 2013 10:42 PM (vgd4f)

527 "The castle on the Burgberg called the Harzburg is famous in German history. It was built between 1065 and 1069, but was laid in ruins by the Saxons in 1074; again it was built and again destroyed during the struggle between the emperor Henry IV. and the Saxons."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 26, 2013 02:32 AM


and then I built the next one, and that sank into the swamp. Then I built the next one and that sank into the swamp. Then I built the next one, that caught fire, fell over, then sank into the swamp......

Posted by: Berserker at March 25, 2013 10:42 PM (FMbng)

528 and then I built the next one, and that sank into the swamp. Then I built the next one and that sank into the swamp. Then I built the next one, that caught fire, fell over, then sank into the swamp...... Posted by: Berserker at March 26, 2013 02:42 AM (FMbng)

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 25, 2013 10:44 PM (Z9EHQ)

529 At least Henry VI did not have ... large tracts of land ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 25, 2013 10:44 PM (TvO05)

530 Night, better go to bed before I say something I won't regret.

Posted by: lou's a girl at March 25, 2013 10:45 PM (vgd4f)

531 LOL Beserker and Adriane.

But it proves one thing - never invites the Saxons over for a castle warming.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 10:46 PM (iGhmo)

532 At the History Channel site,is a bio on the woman that plays Lagertha, the Shield Maiden, Katheryn Winnick. She's got a 3rd Degree Black Belt in Tae Kwon Do and a Second-Degree Black Belt in Karate, and has her own schools for same in Toronto, and competed in the Canadian Nationals. I'm kinda liking her as a Viking gal.

Posted by: JHW at March 25, 2013 10:46 PM (B38OD)

533 I know...I'm fiddling a IBM Server 310 back to life tonight (basically a PC 750 stood on edge with server'ish cosmetic plastic) Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 02:39 AM (/gHaE) You see, I would find that amusing. I used to have a bunch of awesome old stuff, most of it is just gone now. Cromemco server, Wang PC, Compaq transportable, Polymorphic 88, SGI Irix, etc. Most of the cool stuff around here gets snatched up in seconds. There are a couple surplus stores and a bunch of small refurbishers.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 10:47 PM (bxiXv)

534 Good Night, lou's a girl ... your wisdom is like a pearl, save it for the horde and hide it from the churl- -ish

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 25, 2013 10:48 PM (TvO05)

535 Good Night, all - laundry ain't gonna throw itself in the dryer.

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 25, 2013 10:49 PM (TvO05)

536 never invite the Saxons over for a castle warming and if they bring a Giant Badger, Run Awayyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 25, 2013 10:50 PM (TvO05)

537 Must do something to stave off...well, whatever I'm turning into.

Anyway.  Night, all, sweet dreams and God bless.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 25, 2013 10:52 PM (xjpRj)

538 A giant badger?  Eh wot?  No Trojan Wabbit?  Oh my.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2013 10:58 PM (iGhmo)

539 The shit I've tossed over the years that would sell for HUGE money today on eBay...

IBM Professional Graphics Adapter
XT/370 processor card (ran mainframe code on XT's)
i860 Wizard coprocessor for PS/2's
Atron Probe debugger board for 8088's
...


Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:04 PM (/gHaE)

540 Not since teh intartubes. 

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 26, 2013 02:35 AM (bxiXv)


What's the going rate then?  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2013 11:04 PM (7um7O)

541 I probably tossed a few cubic yards of software/documentation/manuals too.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:06 PM (/gHaE)

542 Dangit, now I remember I was going to do an early morning Walmart run for the BIL.    Time to crash.   G'night ya'll.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2013 11:08 PM (7um7O)

543 536 The shit I've tossed over the years that would sell for HUGE money today on eBay... Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 03:04 AM (/gHaE) At least the Polymorphic sold for like $800. But yeah, we look back, and ugh.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 11:17 PM (bxiXv)

544 What's the going rate then? Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 26, 2013 03:04 AM (7um7O) 1:7.5 Video rate is stuck in committee.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 11:18 PM (bxiXv)

545 The shit I've tossed over the years that would sell for HUGE money today on eBay...

IBM Professional Graphics Adapter
XT/370 processor card (ran mainframe code on XT's)
i860 Wizard coprocessor for PS/2's
Atron Probe debugger board for 8088's
...
Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 03:04 AM (/gHaE)




There is actually a market for old computer crap???

Posted by: Berserker at March 25, 2013 11:18 PM (FMbng)

546

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 26, 2013 02:47 AM

 

 

Huhuhuh uh huhuh... you said "wang"... huhuh uh huhuh...

Posted by: butthead at March 25, 2013 11:34 PM (yBF/9)

547 There is actually a market for old computer crap?

Stuff with historical significance, yes.

Generic Taiwan 286/386/486 clone not so much...

But the GenericClones can be parts donors for upgrading the valuable stuff.  You can get math coprocessors, Overdrive chips, etc out of them.

I went on the warpath a while ago and killed any IBM machines I had that used a Dallas DS127 chip because new ones aren't available anymore and the integral battery in any NOS parts anyone is hawking is as dead as the one in the machines.  There's hacks for fitting a CR2032 to the old Dallas but I don't have the patience anymore. 

I did one of those hacks and it was tedious involving  a Dremel, pin peeling/soldering under a magnifying glass.  Fuck that shit.  IMO, anything that had a Dallas chip was born with genetics not worthy of preserving.

But, those machine yielded up some SCSI cards, cabling, and 80387SX math chips which are interesting.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:40 PM (/gHaE)

548 Oh...I just checked XELTEK's site and they got software for my EPROM burner that works on Win95 thru XP. 

Sweet.  Updated device lists too.  I'm not sentenced to burning EPROMs with Win95 anymore.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 25, 2013 11:50 PM (/gHaE)

549 For a while Dell had cheap office class machines that only supported 1x PCIE, no good for video. Actually they supported 16x PCIE, but the slot had a plastic block in the way, and still had pins for 16x. The card just wouldn't go in. A minute of careful Dremeling and you could put a 16x card in the machine. The reasoning behind the crippling was obscure, but the cards fit and worked, so there you go.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 11:52 PM (bxiXv)

550 I was posting this weekend from an old Compaq laptop with the BeOS clone Haiku on it. Just Because I Could, Dammit.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 25, 2013 11:53 PM (bxiXv)

551 Hey Jake I found a place with ammo in stock:  pocono gun supplies.com

Posted by: DAve at March 26, 2013 12:01 AM (XDC0v)

552 The reasoning behind the crippling was obscure, but the cards fit and worked, so there you go.

Market segmentation.  They probably used the same mobo in the more expensive corporate grade stuff and didn't want people to realize that, or the business customers would start buying the cheaper one.

Back in the 1960's IBM sold two lowish end models of the S/360, the model 20 and the model 30.  They were physically and electrically identical save for one small difference -- the model 20's CPU microcode had delays inserted in it so it would be slower than the model 30 and give more market segmentation than selling only one machine type on the low end.

Of course, field "upgrades" from a 20 to a 30 were available...at a nice markup and involved nothing by swapping a microcode board.

The old DG Eclipse minicomputers had an optional added cost "math acceleration" package.  It was actually built into every machine by default and disabled by a jumper wire. 

DG charged BIG CASH to come out and "install" the math "upgrade", which could be done in 5 minutes, but the techs would take several hours to make it look like something was actually being done other than snipping a wire. 

Of course, some enterprising ex-DG techs went into the 100% compatible "math upgrade" business and offered to do the "installation" for far less than DG did.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 12:17 AM (/gHaE)

553 Back in the 1960's IBM sold two lowish end models of the S/360, the model 20 and the model 30. They were physically and electrically identical save for one small difference -- the model 20's CPU microcode had delays inserted in it so it would be slower than the model 30 and give more market segmentation than selling only one machine type on the low end.

Of course, field "upgrades" from a 20 to a 30 were available...at a nice markup and involved nothing by swapping a microcode board.


Posted by: @PurpAv


Holy S! You peeps know about that too!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 26, 2013 12:18 AM (UCv7P)

554 I'm not at all skeptical about training Syrian "rebels". I just know, deep down in my heart of hearts, that we can trust them not to turn on us and just hate the shit out of us no matter what we do.... ho-hum, seems we have played this game before.

Posted by: and irresolute at March 26, 2013 12:20 AM (DBH1h)

555 I got a lotta IBM trivia...

The XT/370 processor card that went into an otherwise stock PC/XT was actually Motorola 68k CPU's that had their microcode rewritten to emulate a S/370.  The 68k was a very flexible chip being both vertically and horizontally microcoded.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 12:26 AM (/gHaE)

556 I really do wish that the NORK's would put out just a few more videos per day. Damn, are those nut-jobs deluded or what?! Pretty quick now they are going to start believing that avocado dip that they produce and get into some serious trouble. What a waste of good solid oppressed people. How can the world justify letting that slavery go on for so long? We should have solved that problem so long ago. Just proves that we need to get some comeuppance and square our acts up. Maybe this is all going to turn out alright after all.... nah. 

Posted by: and irresolute at March 26, 2013 12:28 AM (DBH1h)

557 There was an IBM consumer PS/2 model that had a warranty that would be voided if you installed a network card. Why? Because IBM sold a business model with lesser specs, except for having a NIC pre-installed, for a huge markup compared to the consumer box.

Posted by: epobirs at March 26, 2013 12:29 AM (kcfmt)

558 ...the NanoData QM-1 emulation machine could run PDP 11-70 emulation microcode faster than a real PDP 11-70 ran.

That QM-1 machine was architecturally interesting as heck.  They sold a bunch of them to military/space contractors who deal with weird CPU's with limited availability.  ex Rockwell bought one for doing emulation of the shuttle flight computers and avionics systems.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 12:31 AM (/gHaE)

559 I know! I know! Let's marry a drag racer rather than keep our thing under control and stay with Sandra (more money than God!) Bullock. Jesus, mercy, duh!

Posted by: and irresolute at March 26, 2013 12:32 AM (DBH1h)

560 Amanda! Wake the F* up! The Italians need a story,  a juicy  2" headline story,  to replace the economic nightmare that they are going to suffer very soon. Your little murder-mystery would really be a relief. Take a tip  and  take a plane to somewhere far-far-far away! Get some surgery. Dye your hair. Have someone hit you with a hammer, whatever.

Posted by: and irresolute at March 26, 2013 12:43 AM (DBH1h)

561 My fav machine for architectural quirkiness -- the ancient Burroughs B1700.  It had loadable microcode that could be reloaded on the fly during a context swap.

So, the OS ran with a (programmer visible) machine architecture optimized for OS things, Fortran apps ran on a Fortran optimized architecture, and Cobol apps ran on a Cobol optimized architecture.

Cool eh?  Burroughs made some really interesting machines.  One of their architects was a grad school prof of mine.  Dude was sharp.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 12:43 AM (/gHaE)

562 Amanda Knox is here in the US at the moment, but I'd be looking hard at non-extradition countries if I were her. 

Trusting Eric fucking Holder to not extradite you because of double jeopardy is a gamble I'd not be willing to make.  She ain't black enough.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 12:47 AM (/gHaE)

563 >> My fav machine for architectural quirkiness -- the ancient Burroughs B1700. It had loadable microcode that could be reloaded on the fly during a context swap.
 
I read that, and my forehead burst out in an acne rash -- and my old pocket protector leaped out from it's storage box and lay flapping on the floor, like a fish out of water.
 
Or maybe it was fapping on the floor. It is hard to tell what a pocket protector is up to.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2013 01:07 AM (ccXZP)

564 The IBM AS/400 architecture is quite an oddball too.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 01:24 AM (/gHaE)

565 >> The IBM AS/400 architecture is quite an oddball too.
 
The (ex) wife worked on System 36, System 38, and As-400 machines as a consultant. At one point, we considered buying a used 36, but at $15k, decided against it for a dead letter tech.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2013 01:40 AM (ccXZP)

566 How come computers can't answer questions? When I type in... "How cold is it on Pluto?", the computer won't even guess. I've even tried... "OK, what's 2x5? Is that simple enough for you?" Still nothing. What's the story? Are computers really that dumb, or is mine just an asshole?

Posted by: otho at March 26, 2013 01:51 AM (yBF/9)

567 Apparently IBM is still keeping AS/400 compatibility with the new Power 7 stuff, which is weird.  The older Power chips from say 10-15 years ago didn't look anything like an AS/400 architecturally, not even close.  I haven't looked at the P7 architecture so I don't know what sort of presto-chango magic they're doing to make it happen.  Gotta be virtual AS/400 mode, software simulation or something like that.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 01:53 AM (/gHaE)

568 Top of the BING results for the Pluto question is:

"Pluto is cold. Very very cold."

Which sounds about right ;->

BING actually has the 2*5 answer and gives back 10.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 01:57 AM (/gHaE)

569 But that sounds like some sort of cheating. I expect an answer when I turn it on. If I wanted answers from this "Bing" computer, I would have bought one of those, not this surly, silent asshole of a "computer".

Posted by: otho at March 26, 2013 02:00 AM (yBF/9)

570 Dragon was unberthed from the ISS at 4:10 am EDT, and the station's arm is now slowly maneuvering it away. Release is scheduled for about 6:56 am. Dragon is bringing back about 2600 lbs. of payload, mostly scientific experiments. It's currently the only vehicle in the world that can bring cargo back to Earth. http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

Posted by: rickl at March 26, 2013 02:00 AM (sdi6R)

571 Hey, the BING search is a calculator...I typed in "sin(1032)*50" and it gave a good answer.

Google does it as well and presents you with some sort of web based scientific calculator too along with the answer.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 02:03 AM (/gHaE)

572 I expect an answer when I turn it on.

You're asking the wrong question if the answer is "heat"  ;->

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 02:05 AM (/gHaE)

573 Thanks Purp. I'll remember to get a "Bing" or a "Google" PC next time. I feel ripped off. I bought into this whole computational device thingy expecting a HAL9000. It was a big lie. This one won't even acknowledge me, let alone attempt to kill me.

Posted by: otho at March 26, 2013 02:11 AM (yBF/9)

574 Market segmentation. Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 04:17 AM (/gHaE) Well, late respose: when I said "obscure," I meant "they didn't say," not "I didn't know." Yes, these PCs were awfully cheap to serve big institutional customers and they didn't plan on end-users buying them en-masse.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 26, 2013 02:12 AM (bxiXv)

575 You need an old Mac.  The one where you talk to the mouse...

...I saw that in a movie.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 02:13 AM (/gHaE)

576 Ha, ha, ah... look at the window title bar text and pic when this page loads:

http://tinyurl.com/czy6tky

Sweet

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 02:19 AM (/gHaE)

577 Hang on, I just got a message box thingy on the computer. It's telling me I have to replace the AE-35 unit from the communications array... whatever the hell that is. I'm going outside to look for it. BRB...

Posted by: otho at March 26, 2013 02:25 AM (yBF/9)

578 >> Ha, ha, ah... look at the window title bar text and pic when this page loads:
 
You owe me 500 internet quatloos for a warningless link to another pic of the Fuckhead-in-Chief.
 
I'm sick of his useless mug; more importantly, I'm sick of his Fuckhead policies. I guess I should just plan on staying 'sick'.
 
Sigh. And so it goes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2013 02:30 AM (ccXZP)

579 Early morning doom up

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 26, 2013 02:34 AM (/gHaE)

580 The AS/400 users love those machines.  I worked in the development lab on the S/34, S/36 and S/38 before the blended the last two into the AS/400.  My current employer utilizes a bunch of AS/400s for data collection in our production facilities around the country.  They're very reliable.

Posted by: zeera at March 26, 2013 02:37 AM (3dXwx)

581 570 Otho,

your PC will try to kill you if you shower with it...


trust me I know

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 26, 2013 03:13 AM (LRFds)

582 Well I managed to write about 1,500 new words to story.  Also realised what I have written for an ending is probably junk to be discarded.  The characters are taking a slightly different path than I anticipated.

Also fed the kittehs.  Good night or good morning.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 26, 2013 03:23 AM (iGhmo)

583 10
Some Air Force type can check me on this, but I believe that part of the cause of the downed aircraft is that the geniuses planning the missions ORDERED the pilots to take the same routes into the target, mission after mission.

Posted by: Die Trying at March 25, 2013 10:17 PM (w7J/R)

Somewhat true. There were three strikes each day of the first three days and they all ran the same route. Not unreasonably, losses increased each day (two, day one; four, day two; six, day three) and the last strike on the third day was recalled after it was in the air because of this.

When strikes into the Hanoi area took up again on 26 December, it's rumored that HQSAC wanted to use that same flight plan again and the Wing Commander at Andersen refused the order and told them his staff would take over the planning. The 26th December raid was certainly very different, using ~120 BUFs to strike seven targets simultaneously from multiple attack axes. Losses dropped immediately to two B-52s.

It's apparent from the lack of SAM activity after the 26 December raid that the NVN ran out of SAMs that night. They shot off a bunch of SAMs without any guidance radars up (I know because I was there), but subsequent raids saw either no or a very few SAMs fired.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at March 26, 2013 08:59 AM (5hNpF)

584 Sorry, no idea where my paragraphs went.

Somewhat true. There were three strikes each day of the first three days and they all ran the same route. Not unreasonably, losses increased each day (two, day one; four, day two; six, day three) and the last strike on the third day was recalled after it was in the air because of this.

When strikes into the Hanoi area took up again on 26 December, it's rumored that HQSAC wanted to use that same flight plan again and the Wing Commander at Andersen refused the order and told them his staff would take over the planning. The 26th December raid was certainly very different, using ~120 BUFs to strike seven targets simultaneously from multiple attack axes. Losses dropped immediately to two B-52s.

It's apparent from the lack of SAM activity after the 26 December raid that the NVN ran out of SAMs that night. They shot off a bunch of SAMs without any guidance radars up (I know because I was there), but subsequent raids saw either no or a very few SAMs fired.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at March 26, 2013 09:02 AM (5hNpF)

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