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April 01, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (4-1-2013)
— Maetenloch

The Tennessee-Georgia Cold War About to Go Hot

Forget about tensions in the Korean peninsula - we've got trouble with a capital-T right here in the SEC. For those not up speed I'm talking about the recent recent threats and saber-rattling by Georgia towards its peaceful northern neighbor, Tennessee.

You see Georgia with its megapolis, Atlanta, is fast exceeding its natural water supply and after studying the map has decided that the best solution would be the Tennessee river. But there are two problems with this: 1) the river water belongs to Tennessee (via the TVA) and 2) Tennessee aims to keep it.

But the Peach State wants what it wants, and is prepared to take what it needs - by force if necessary. It's now demanding that Tennessee cede all territory below the 35th parallel.

Last week, the Georgia state senate voted to sue the state of Tennessee in order to claim a sliver of land that would grant Georgia access to the Tennessee River. Georgia, readers must understand, has mismanaged its own water resources to the point where it now struggles to supply enough water for the residents of Atlanta (and its sprawling suburbs and exurbs) to fill their above-ground pools and wash the TruckNutz on their mini-vans. Dangerously, the state is actually seeking to redraw a border that has kept the peace for over 200 years, and all over a crucial resource - a resource belonging, rightfully, to the Tennessee of my ancestors.

Since then tensions have been rising and both TN and GA state guard forces as well SUV-mounted militia have been converging on the disputed region near Chattanooga. Based on reports from truck-stop observers this is the current disposition of forces in the standoff:

Meanwhile volunteers in the Volunteer State are volunteering to defend their state against the approaching Peach Horde. A single misunderstood comment or an unexpected NCAA elimination is all it would take to turn this critically tense situation into an actual battle.

But Georgia should beware - getting into East Tennessee is a far different thing from holding East Tennessee.

As a soldier, I fought in both Iraq and Afghanistan; as a scholar, I performed most of the fieldwork for my doctoral dissertation in southern Lebanon. Nowhere in the world, though, have I ever encountered a more brutal, tribal and violent race of people than the Scots-Irish of East Tennessee.

...And as either Vegetius or the Carter Sisters once sang, si vis pacem, para bellum. Translated into the Tenneessean: If you're a-lookin' for peace, best get ready for the warrin'.

Salvation Through Extinction: The Liverpool Pathway For Cities

San Bernardino, CA is completely bankrupt but filing for bankruptcy still may not save it from CalPERS debt, insanely generous union benefits and pension payments that could take up 75% of the city's budget.

But there is another option: death.

In some circumstances, an alternative mechanism in California law might be more appropriate: disincorporation, which can put a flailing, mismanaged municipality out of its misery. Its appeal is precisely that it would address the crucial factors causing San Bernardino's fiscal mess. It could eliminate outlandish contracts for public employees (often bestowed by politicians elected with donations from public-employee unions). It could reduce pensions for current public-sector retirees, which so far are untouchable. It would make the city charter null and void. Above all, disincorporation would alleviate the problem caused by the flight of financial and human capital from San Bernardino to neighboring towns in San Bernardino County, such as Highland and Redlands. Disincorporation would mean that San Bernardino would cease to exist as a city and would foist its manifold liabilities-and assets-onto its namesake county.

Churchill on Governments Not Leaving You Alone

Attention Libertarians: This means both ours and other countries' too.

"Mr. Chamberlain can't seem to understand that we live in a very wicked world . English people want to be left alone, and I daresay a great many other people want to be left alone too. But the world is like a tired old horse plodding down a long road. Every time it strays off and tries to graze peacefully in some nice green pasture, along comes a new master to flog it a bit further along.'"

April Fools or Not?

These days even the Onion can't keep up with reality.

Lego to Pull 'Anti-Islamic' Star Wars Toy Set Following Muslim Furor ow.ly/2vRBWG

- Meredith Jessup (@MeredithJessup) April 1, 2013

10 Things You Might Not Know About the Korean War

Well the biggest is that it never ended - there's just been a ceasefire for 60 years. Well until last month when North Korea publicly repudiated it. So I guess we're back to an active Korean War again.

1. The North Koreans captured an American general.

A month after the Korean War broke out, Major General William F. Dean, commander of 24th Infantry Division, was separated from his forces in Taejon while trying to help wounded soldiers. While out seeking water for a particularly injured G.I., he fell down a cliff and was knocked unconscious. He would be isolated in the mountains for the next 36 days, losing 80 pounds in addition to the broken shoulder and head wound he had sustained. When two South Koreans found him, they pretended to lead him to safety, but in fact brought him to a North Korean ambush site.

Layers and Layers and Layers of Fact Checking

A correction by the NYT today.

Arianna Huffington: Party-Person and a Nightmare Tenant

Arianna Huffington partied so hard in her rented Chelsea loft that it looked like a scene from Animal House after a rowdy frat party, according to a new lawsuit.
When Huffington departed the 4,400 square foot, seven-story apartment at 227 W. 17th Street in January she'd caused $275,000 in damages ranging from "gouged, stained and otherwise damaged" walls, "scratched, punctured" wood floors, bloodied mattresses and broken appliances, the Manhattan Supreme Court suit charges.

"Huffington was using the apartment for large parties and business functions in breach of the sublease and Huffington's promises," court papers allege.

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1 Georgia and North Carolina went to war over there border.

Posted by: Alex Stephens at April 01, 2013 06:28 PM (aPAIU)

2 IsnÂ’t This How The Movie Â“The ThingÂ” Started? Russian scientists had discovered what they term Â“unclassified and unidentifiedÂ” life in the Antarctic lake, Vostok. This begs the question: Has anyone tested their blood with a flame heated piece of metal wire? More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=1668

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 01, 2013 06:29 PM (Vk2pI)

3 From the wiki god: The Walton War was an 1804 boundary dispute between the U.S. states of North Carolina and Georgia over the twelve-mile wide strip of land called the Orphan Strip. The Orphan Strip was given to Georgia in 1802, and gave Georgia and North Carolina a shared border. Problems arose when Georgia established Walton County in the small piece of land, because the state boundaries had never been clarified and it was unclear as to whether the Orphan Strip was part of North Carolina or Georgia. The Walton War remained a dispute primarily between the settlers and the Walton County government until John Havner, a North Carolinian constable, was killed and North CarolinaÂ’s Buncombe County called in the militia. By calling in the militia, North Carolina effectively asserted authority over the territory, causing the Walton County government to fail. In 1807, after two years of dispute, a joint commission confirmed that the Orphan Strip belonged to North Carolina, at which point North Carolina extended full amnesty to previous supporters of Walton County. The Walton War officially ended in 1811 when GeorgiaÂ’s own survey reiterated the 1807 commissionÂ’s findings and North Carolina took full responsibility for governing the Orphan Strip.

Posted by: Alex Stephens at April 01, 2013 06:30 PM (aPAIU)

4 Michigan and Ohio have also gone to war. Once again, from the wiki god: The Toledo War (1835Â–36), also known as the MichiganÂ–Ohio War, was the almost entirely bloodless boundary dispute between the U.S. state of Ohio and the adjoining territory of Michigan. Originating from conflicting state and federal legislation passed between 1787 and 1805, the dispute resulted from poor understanding of geographical features of the Great Lakes at the time. Varying interpretations of the law caused the governments of Ohio and Michigan to both claim sovereignty over a 468-square-mile (1,210 km2) region along the border, now known as the Toledo Strip. When Michigan sought statehood in the early 1830s, it sought to include the disputed territory within its boundaries; Ohio's congressional delegation was in turn able to halt Michigan's admission to the Union. Beginning in 1835, both sides passed legislation attempting to force the other side's capitulation. Ohio's governor Robert Lucas and Michigan's 24-year-old "Boy Governor" Stevens T. Mason were both unwilling to cede jurisdiction of the Strip, so they raised militias and helped institute criminal penalties for citizens submitting to the other's authority. The militias were mobilized and sent to positions on opposite sides of the Maumee River near Toledo, but besides mutual taunting there was little interaction between the two forces. The single military confrontation of the "war" ended with a report of shots being fired into the air, incurring no casualties. During the summer of 1836, Congress proposed a compromise whereby Michigan gave up its claim to the strip in exchange for its statehood and approximately three-quarters of the Upper Peninsula. The compromise was considered a poor outcome for Michigan at the time; nearly all of it was still Indian territory, and voters in a state convention in September soundly rejected it. In December 1836, the Michigan territorial government, facing a dire financial crisis and pressure from Congress and President Andrew Jackson, called another convention (called the "Frost-bitten Convention") which accepted the compromise which resolved the Toledo War. The later discovery of copper and iron deposits and the plentiful timber in the Upper Peninsula more than offset Michigan's economic loss in surrendering Toledo.

Posted by: Alex Stephens: State Historian at April 01, 2013 06:31 PM (aPAIU)

5 I thought we solved all of this stuff when we kicked the South's ass in the War of The Southern Rebellion?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 06:32 PM (0zDXv)

6 I thought Lego had been busy all day issuing corrections to the original story? They always phase out sets, so it was really an empty nod to the Muslims, because that set was going out of circulation in 2014 anyway. I wonder how many of those sets they sold today? It had a limit of 5 on the website, which is what they do when they expect them to become hot re-sale commodities.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 01, 2013 06:32 PM (RZ8pf)

7 I'm warning you TN sometimes winning is losing....

//Ohio stuck with Toledo

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 06:33 PM (LRFds)

8 Iowa and Missouri had a bloodless conflict called the Honey War

Posted by: Alex Stephens: State Historian at April 01, 2013 06:33 PM (aPAIU)

9 Every time it strays off and tries to graze peacefully in some nice green pasture, along comes a new master to flog it a bit further along.'"
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Hey as long as that field has some sweet Mary Jane I'm down with a little flogging.

Uh...wait. What?

Posted by: Your Average Member of the Libertarian Party at April 01, 2013 06:33 PM (zPVBH)

10 My brother is a policeman with a TN city police force and is also currently deployed with a GA national guard unit. That could be awkward...

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 01, 2013 06:33 PM (BsxM8)

11 @The Farmer: Should I clean my silver coins at all? Soap and water? I believe your advice and won't clean up any more of the silver coins I find, even if the Mercury Dimes look amazing when they're polished up.

Posted by: Socktopus at April 01, 2013 06:33 PM (1FLBb)

12 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 01, 2013 06:34 PM (JMmQ9)

13 4 Alex Stephens,

Ohio lost the Toledo war...

we kept Toledo

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 06:34 PM (LRFds)

14 So San Bernardino's problem just became San Bernardino County's problem. Like Riverside will become Riverside County's problem. Like Los Angeles become Los Angeles County's problem, and so on and so on.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2013 06:34 PM (NzBQO)

15 I came up with this after watching Prezzy Mommy Jeans playing Basketball: http://tinypic.com/r/9a757d/6 I have very little 'shop skills, but not bad, if I say so myself.

Posted by: Weirddave at April 01, 2013 06:34 PM (aH+zP)

16 Georgia has done this way too often. Georgia v. South Carolina (1990)

Posted by: Alex Stephens: State Historian at April 01, 2013 06:34 PM (aPAIU)

17 Since when are borders important? Oh, I see. It depends, racist!

Posted by: t-bird at April 01, 2013 06:34 PM (oJQ+J)

18 Two phrases that should never, ever appear on the same web page: "Arianna Huffington" and "semen tank".

Posted by: SCOAMF Search Committee at April 01, 2013 06:35 PM (OtAWf)

19 "resurrection into heaven" So is the Times going to correct their correction?

Posted by: real joe at April 01, 2013 06:35 PM (PD2ad)

20 That Wonder Woman is such a fag hag...

Posted by: TejasJudio de la Frontera at April 01, 2013 06:35 PM (99xOX)

21 13 4 Alex Stephens, Ohio lost the Toledo war... we kept Toledo Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 10:34 PM (LRFds) That is one way of putting it, but, at the time toledo was a good place to have. Similar to the land now known as Gary, Indiana

Posted by: Alex Stephens: State Historian at April 01, 2013 06:35 PM (aPAIU)

22 Yo, fappers.

Posted by: Peaches at April 01, 2013 06:36 PM (8lmkt)

23 14 So San Bernardino's problem just became San Bernardino County's problem. Like Riverside will become Riverside County's problem. Like Los Angeles become Los Angeles County's problem, and so on and so on. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2013 10:34 PM (NzBQO) HAHA I win

Posted by: Orange County at April 01, 2013 06:36 PM (aPAIU)

24 There's a bar up in Copper Hill..., or Ducktown, I forget. At any rate, half of it is wet Tennessee, the other half in dry county of Georgia. They have a line painted the length of the floor through the place. For better or worse, the bathrooms are on the Georgia side, so you drink on the Tenn. side, and cross to Ga. to pee.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 06:36 PM (aDwsi)

I thought we solved all of this stuff when we kicked the South's ass in the War of The Southern Rebellion?

Rubbish. The only reason why the south lost was because when Grant came to surrender, Lee mistook him for an orderly and handed Grant his sword to clean. Grant thought that Lee had surrendered to him, and Lee was too much of a gentleman to embarrass him by pointing out his mistake.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 01, 2013 06:37 PM (BsxM8)

26 That Wonder Woman is such a fag hag...
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I'm not sure she has any interest in the boys there...

Posted by: Some Thespian at April 01, 2013 06:37 PM (zPVBH)

27 San Bernardino, CA is completely bankrupt but filing for bankruptcy still may not save it from CalPERS debt, insanely generous union benefits and pension payments that could take up 75% of the city's budget. Interesting fact, in the early 20th century, the City of Long Beach de-incorporated itself for a while to avoid a city tax. Seriously, though: San Bernardino is being reducing to doing nothing but taking money from the residents of the city and giving it to a leisure class elite who are not doing anything for their privilege. That is how the French Revolution happened. This will not end well...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 01, 2013 06:37 PM (Vk2pI)

28 21 Alex Stephens,

all kidding aside we also lost on the reset from the CT claims...we kept
Cleveland....

and yeah Georgia is a lot like the Soviets....

they keep bullbaiting their neighbors.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 06:37 PM (LRFds)

29 Georgia has also gone to the supreme court against Alabama. State of Alabama v. State of Georgia, 64 U.S. 505 (1860)

Posted by: Orange County at April 01, 2013 06:37 PM (aPAIU)

30 M

Posted by: WarMonger at April 01, 2013 06:37 PM (EWbXU)

31 Posted by: Alex Stephens: State Historian at April 01, 2013 10:31 PM (aPAIU)

The fuck is your problem, sparky? Cut that shit out, especially so early in the thread, it's like ebola virus, you'll kill the whole thing.

Posted by: Peaches at April 01, 2013 06:38 PM (8lmkt)

32 "as the palace that is depicted is said to look like the Hagia Sophia mosque, an Islamic house of worship in Istanbul." The Hagia Sophia (Holy Wisdom in Greek) is a Greek Orthodox CHURCH that was plundered, looted, and used as a mosque by the invading Turks.

Posted by: SCOAMF Search Committee at April 01, 2013 06:38 PM (OtAWf)

33 22 peaches,

*insert witty remark here*

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 06:38 PM (LRFds)

34 Larger mouth makes handling easier.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 01, 2013 06:38 PM (C36wA)

35 28 21 Alex Stephens, all kidding aside we also lost on the reset from the CT claims...we kept Cleveland.... and yeah Georgia is a lot like the Soviets.... they keep bullbaiting their neighbors. Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 10:37 PM (LRFds) Despite being similar politically, I would think that culturally and socially those two areas are as far removed as Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Posted by: Orange County at April 01, 2013 06:38 PM (aPAIU)

36 Posted by: Grey Fox at April 01, 2013 10:37 PM (BsxM

Nice!

And a good evening to you!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 06:38 PM (0zDXv)

37 Made a new discovery tonight - Rocket City Rednecks. It gives me renewed faith in humanity, LOL.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at April 01, 2013 06:39 PM (KvKOu)

38 Somebody needs to review ops graphics. Those aren't the daggone symbols for my Weapons Company you sumbitch.

Posted by: 0302 at April 01, 2013 06:39 PM (sRWlD)

39 Georgia and Alabama have been at each other over water rights for 20 years or so.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 01, 2013 06:39 PM (JQuNB)

40 31 Posted by: Alex Stephens: State Historian at April 01, 2013 10:31 PM (aPAIU) The fuck is your problem, sparky? Cut that shit out, especially so early in the thread, it's like ebola virus, you'll kill the whole thing. Posted by: Peaches at April 01, 2013 10:38 PM (8lmkt) nah, i'll just kill 90% of you

Posted by: Ebola (Zaire variety) at April 01, 2013 06:39 PM (aPAIU)

41 http://tinypic.com/r/9a757d/6 I have very little 'shop skills, but not bad, if I say so myself. And then he gets out-rebounded by a ten-year-old.

Posted by: t-bird at April 01, 2013 06:39 PM (oJQ+J)

42 wait, there was "content?" again?????

Posted by: Peaches at April 01, 2013 06:39 PM (8lmkt)

43 Yo, fappers.

Posted by: Peaches at April 01, 2013 10:36 PM (8lmkt)

It's gonna be a long season.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 06:39 PM (0zDXv)

44 If GA wants a drink from the Cherokee river, they better damn well have a lot of chlorine and antibiotics on hand.

Posted by: AES at April 01, 2013 06:39 PM (5VQkS)

45 I thought we solved all of this stuff when we kicked the South's ass in the War of ~~The Southern Rebellion~~ Northern Aggression? FIFY

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 01, 2013 06:39 PM (JMmQ9)

46 >>>I thought we solved all of this stuff when we kicked the South's ass in the War of The Southern Rebellion?

Enjoy that past conquest my brother. From where you sit, it won't go as well the next time.

Now that's outta the way, how you doin'? I'm doin' good. Let's not have any of this north/south squabblin'. Like-minded folks, and all.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 06:40 PM (4Mv1T)

47 well a classy ONT as always thanks Maet...

I think I am gonna try an experiment and go voluntary coma before 2am tonight......

ho ho hell?

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 06:40 PM (LRFds)

48 39 Georgia and Alabama have been at each other over water rights for 20 years or so. Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 01, 2013 10:39 PM (JQuNB) More like over 150 years See 'State of Alabama v. State of Georgia, 64 U.S. 505 (1860)'

Posted by: Ebola (Zaire variety) at April 01, 2013 06:40 PM (aPAIU)

49 LBJ gave back an island in the Rio Grande to Mexico - the Chamizal

Posted by: TejasJudio de la Frontera at April 01, 2013 06:41 PM (99xOX)

50 It's gonna be a long season.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 10:39 PM (0zDXv)

are you talkin' about stupid fuckin' baseball, my esteemed friend? because, trust me, you can totally ignore that shit until October.

Posted by: Peaches at April 01, 2013 06:41 PM (8lmkt)

51 The Hagia Sophia (Holy Wisdom in Greek) is a Greek Orthodox CHURCH that was plundered, looted, and used as a mosque by the invading Turks.
***
Hey, we currently have invading socialists plundering and looting our most sacred institutions as well...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 01, 2013 06:41 PM (zPVBH)

52 45 I thought we solved all of this stuff when we kicked the South's ass in the War of The Southern Rebellion Northern Aggression? FIFY Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 01, 2013 10:39 PM (JMmQ9) No, you made it worse, and unbelievably dumber

Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 06:41 PM (aPAIU)

"Georgia and Alabama have been at each other over water rights for 20 years or so"

Pikers. The lot of 'em. "Chinatown" anyone?

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 06:41 PM (lbiWb)

54 Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 10:40 PM (4Mv1T)

All in jest.

We are, after all, magnanimous in victory!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 06:41 PM (0zDXv)

55 The Toledo War (1835Â–36), also known as the MichiganÂ–Ohio War That Toledo was once a place worth fighting for tells us just how far this country has fallen...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 01, 2013 06:41 PM (Vk2pI)

56 F'ckn Georgia boys . Always makin' trouble .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 01, 2013 06:41 PM (USjX1)

57 2 wander, to wonder

Posted by: WarMonger at April 01, 2013 06:42 PM (EWbXU)

58 25 I thought we solved all of this stuff when we kicked the South's ass in the War of The Southern Rebellion?
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Technically, yes. On the other hand, conduct a body count.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 06:42 PM (aDwsi)

59 I am so much at peace when I ignore the news for a day. Living in a bubble is wonderful. I'd keep it up if I had no self respect.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 01, 2013 06:42 PM (DoZD+)

60 Posted by: Peaches at April 01, 2013 10:41 PM (8lmkt)

Young lady, neither of us will be watching baseball in October.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 06:42 PM (0zDXv)

"Two phrases that should never, ever appear on the same web page: "Arianna Huffington" and "semen tank"."

You mean they're not synonyms? Hmm.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 06:43 PM (lbiWb)

62 56 F'ckn Georgia boys . Always makin' trouble . Posted by: awkward davies at April 01, 2013 10:41 PM
====

In the novel Cold Mountain, one of the characters says, "If I had one brother in prison, and the other was in Georgia, I'd go rescue the one from Georgia first..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 06:43 PM (aDwsi)

63 No, you made it worse, and unbelievably dumber

Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 10:41 PM (aPAIU)

Gentle...gentle.

It is all in good fun.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 06:43 PM (0zDXv)

64 Evenin' 'rons and 'ettes!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2013 06:44 PM (NEIxp)

65 Â¿Holy, Cattle?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 06:44 PM (kaalw)

66 58: A higher percentage of the Souths Army died, as well as a larger percent of the Souths population. The south had a 10,000 percent inflation rate, rampant famine, and by the end of the war a nearly non-existent infrastructure.

Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 06:44 PM (aPAIU)

67 Meanwhile St. Krugman predicts California about to enter a new golden age.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 01, 2013 06:45 PM (C36wA)

68 Pikers. The lot of 'em.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 10:41 PM (lbiWb)

What do you know of water?

Posted by: The Fremen at April 01, 2013 06:45 PM (0zDXv)

69 An unfinished War is just seed for the Next War. A) we should have dropped the big one on North Korea back when B) President Bush 1 should never ever have stopped Gulf War 1 till we got Saddam.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 01, 2013 06:45 PM (9Bj8R)

Every time it strays off and tries to graze peacefully in some nice green pasture, along comes a new master to flog it a bit further along.'"

Ah.... misrepresenting the Libertarina position... again....

We just don't want to do anything until someone actualy tries to take the horse... or does so...

Vice the Neo Con position of Occupying the Road for the Next Thousand Miles with troops, just in case someone does try to take the horse...

Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 06:45 PM (lZBBB)

71 The threat of border war can yield unexpected consequences. Once upon a time, Ohio almost went to war against Michigan to get Toledo. The current plans for the ONG summer deployments are to replace all Toledo, OH signs with Toledo, MI. Then they will, on the nights of July 13-14, uproot and move all Ohio/Michigan border signs to a line 500 yards south of the southernmost city line of Toledo. BCochran - I wasn't allowed to serve due to physical issues, but please add my thanks to your BIL. Glad he got home safe!.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque votes Galt/Rearden '16! Burn, baby, burn... at April 01, 2013 06:45 PM (eQnzo)

72 Evening all...

Speakin' of Georgia, just saw this linked on twitter....

NELSON, Ga. Â— The city council in a small north Georgia town voted Monday night to make gun ownership mandatory Â– unless you object.

Council members in Nelson, a city of about 1,300 residents that's located 50 miles north of Atlanta, voted unanimously to approve the Family Protection Ordinance. The measure requires every head of household to own a gun and ammunition to "provide for the emergency management of the city" and to "provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants."

Not that every household must go out and purchase a firearm.

The ordinance exempts convicted felons and those who suffer from certain physical or mental disabilities, as well as anyone who objects to gun ownership. The ordinance also doesn't include any penalty for those who don't comply.

But backers said they wanted to make a statement about gun rights at a time when President Barack Obama and some states are pushing for more restrictions in the wake of the Connecticut elementary school massacre in December that left 20 children and six educators dead.

Councilman Duane Cronic, who sponsored the measure, said he knows the ordinance won't be enforced but he still believes it will make the town safer.

"I likened it to a security sign that people put up in their front yards. Some people have security systems, some people don't, but they put those signs up," he said. "I really felt like this ordinance was a security sign for our city. Basically it was a deterrent ordinance to tell potential criminals they might want to go on down the road a little bit."

The city council's agenda says another purpose of the measure is "opposition of any future attempt by the federal government to confiscate personal firearms."

http://tinyurl.com/d2a83ul

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 01, 2013 06:45 PM (X6akg)

73 Evening 'rons. Wrapping up another shift at work. I gotta get me some days off, currently in a stretch of working 21 of 22 days.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 01, 2013 06:45 PM (FqcJu)

74 " Michigan and Ohio have also gone to war. " Those bastard Buckeyes. Time to get out the squirrel gun, get liquored up, and take back the Toledo Strip.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 06:46 PM (TmyQl)

75 Mike Hammer , you got it brah' . Fckn' georgia crackers .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 01, 2013 06:46 PM (USjX1)

76 Well, if anybody was going to screw up Easter it would be the NYT. They can't go out of business fast enough to suit me.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2013 06:46 PM (NEIxp)

77 thx, CBD I was just pokin' the bear for the hell of it

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 01, 2013 06:46 PM (JMmQ9)

78 >>>Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite

So tell us what you really think. You realize this is amongst friends.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 06:46 PM (4Mv1T)

79 66 58: A higher percentage of the Souths Army died, as well as a larger percent of the Souths population. The south had a 10,000 percent inflation rate, rampant famine, and by the end of the war a nearly non-existent infrastructure. Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 10:44 PM
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And in spite of the enormous advantages, the North suffered greater casualties.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 06:46 PM (aDwsi)

80 Debra Winger was pretty hot as Wonder Woman's sidekick, Wonder Girl This was before she got into all that commie weird drooling batshit crazy actress thing

Posted by: TejasJudio de la Frontera at April 01, 2013 06:46 PM (99xOX)

81 The South today has been remade into what the north once was. Before the New South the culture of the south was rather backwards and highly self-limiting. The North today has a rather stable social structure, rather than an elastic one. That property has switched

Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 06:47 PM (aPAIU)

82 72 nerdygrl,

make buckeyes not war...

take her she's yours...Toledostan baby

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 06:47 PM (LRFds)

83 Yeah, there have been a shitload of these border squabbles, not all of which resulted in shots fired: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Internal_territorial_disputes_of_the_United_States

Posted by: SCOAMF Search Committee at April 01, 2013 06:47 PM (OtAWf)

"Meanwhile St. Krugman predicts California about to enter a new golden age"

What did he do - put a map of Cali into a jar of urine?

@68... great. More Dune comments.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 06:47 PM (lbiWb)

85 I was just pokin' the bear for the hell of it

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 01, 2013 10:46 PM (JMmQ9)

I'm not the hall monitor....just want to enjoy the banter.

Cheers all!

Posted by: The Fremen at April 01, 2013 06:48 PM (0zDXv)

86 77 66 58: A higher percentage of the Souths Army died, as well as a larger percent of the Souths population. The south had a 10,000 percent inflation rate, rampant famine, and by the end of the war a nearly non-existent infrastructure. Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 10:44 PM ========= And in spite of the enormous advantages, the North suffered greater casualties. Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 10:46 PM (aDwsi) As most casualties in war then were a result of disease, getting hit often meant becoming dead. A larger army = a larger target = more dead people

Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 06:48 PM (aPAIU)

87 And a retard when it comes to socks......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 06:48 PM (0zDXv)

88 Also the Economy of the North expanded during the civil war, the economy of the south tanked so hard it took 30 years for it to come back up

Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 06:49 PM (aPAIU)

89 I wholeheartedly agree... f**k the South.

Posted by: Kim Jong Un, the Un-Dictator at April 01, 2013 06:49 PM (Vk2pI)

90 And don't get me started on the f**kin' Hoosiers. Okay, we haven't had an actual war with them, but they're still annoying. "Hoosiers"? I mean, really. Michigan City should go to Michigan, dammit.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 06:49 PM (TmyQl)

91 Trink

Posted by: WarMonger at April 01, 2013 06:49 PM (EWbXU)

92 Posted by: Tami at April 01, 2013 10:45 PM (X6akg) Kennesaw, GA has had a similar ordinance for some time.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 01, 2013 06:50 PM (JQuNB)

93 I have been to Gary and Detroit. Is Toledo really worse than either of those two pathetic excuses for cities

Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 06:50 PM (aPAIU)

94 Toledostan baby

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 10:47 PM (LRFds)

I spent two weeks in Toledo about 15 years ago. In a shitty hotel for a management conference.

Has it gotten any better?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 06:50 PM (0zDXv)

95 88 nerdygirl,

KC MO says otherwise....

No Justice No Peace...know justice know piece....

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 06:50 PM (LRFds)

and by the end of the war a nearly
non-existent infrastructure.

--------------------------------

Damn straight.

Posted by: William T. Sherman at April 01, 2013 06:50 PM (+bZOu)

97 If this isn't some April fool's day B.S. then Tennessee needs to remind Georgia that Georgia has miles of coast line that could have desalinization plants turning sea water into drinking water while Tennessee is completely landlocked.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 01, 2013 06:50 PM (mV8sg)

98 @70 Tami-

Thanks for posting that. It's awesome.

My Grand dad and Great Grand dad where both in an NC Militia that was originally commissioned by Geo. Washington. I have a 3 foot wide photo of them, and the whole unit in full dress at Valley Forge in 1926 celebrating 150 years of independence.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 06:51 PM (4Mv1T)

99 91 CBD,

it is still Toledo...I guess the main saving grace is it could be detroit...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 06:51 PM (LRFds)

100 87: Don't get me wrong, I like the New south, the south that values merit, rather than social standing

Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 06:51 PM (aPAIU)

101

Posted by: Tami at April 01, 2013 10:45 PM (X6akg)

right in line with the Founding Fathers, and the Militia Acts.... where each adult male was part of the Militia, and expected to provide their own firearm, and some ammunition...

Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 06:51 PM (lZBBB)

102 Kennesaw, GA has had a similar ordinance for some time.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 01, 2013 10:50 PM (JQuNB)

Ah, cool....

Is this common in Georgia?

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 01, 2013 06:52 PM (X6akg)

103

@86, parts of my Beloved Commonwealth were still feeling the impacts a century later.

Oh, and no, Toledo's no better today.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 06:52 PM (lbiWb)

104 94 If this isn't some April fool's day B.S. then Tennessee needs to remind Georgia that Georgia has miles of coast line that could have desalinization plants turning sea water into drinking water while Tennessee is completely landlocked. Posted by: Darth Randall at April 01, 2013 10:50 PM (mV8sg) That process is about to become 10 times cheaper thanks to the military industrial complex ala Lockhead Martin.

Posted by: Libertarians hate progress at April 01, 2013 06:52 PM (aPAIU)

105 88 And don't get me started on the f**kin' Hoosiers. Okay, we haven't had an actual war with them, but they're still annoying.
"Hoosiers"? I mean, really. Michigan City should go to Michigan, dammit. Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 10:49 PM
============

I should think that you would not mind ceding Gary to Illinois...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 06:52 PM (aDwsi)

106 "7 I'm warning you TN sometimes winning is losing.... //Ohio stuck with Toledo Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID" Hell, let's make them take Detroit. We could throw in Monroe, unloading Detroit would be worth it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 06:53 PM (TmyQl)

107

"I spent two weeks in Toledo"

Congrats for winning 1st prize.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 06:53 PM (lbiWb)

108 M sucks me some

Posted by: War2Monger2 at April 01, 2013 06:54 PM (EWbXU)

109 And Michael Moore, make it part of the treaty that the Buckeyes have to take Michael Moore AND Detroit. BWAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 06:54 PM (TmyQl)

110 Is this common in Georgia? Posted by: Tami at April 01, 2013 10:52 PM (X6akg) No, I don't think so. But I'm no expert on Crackers.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 01, 2013 06:55 PM (JQuNB)

111

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 10:53 PM (TmyQl)

I don't think it Geography anymore... so much as City Slickers vs. Rural Folk...

Its definatly that way here in California... and was that way in Colorado when I lived there for 15 years...

Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 06:55 PM (lZBBB)

112 Georgia vs. Tennesee. Great, more Neocon nation-building.

Posted by: eman at April 01, 2013 06:55 PM (bP2re)

113 That process is about to become 10 times cheaper thanks to the military industrial complex ala Lockhead Martin.

Posted by: Libertarians hate progress at April 01, 2013 10:52 PM (aPAIU)

In partnership with.... Israeli technology...

Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 06:56 PM (lZBBB)

114 107 Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 10:53 PM (TmyQl)

I don't think it Geography anymore... so much as CitySlickers vs. Rural Folk...

Its definatly that way here in California... and was that way in Colorado when I lived there for 15 years... Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 10:55 PM
============

True that..., but most of ours are fleeing places that they have FUBAR'd, and seem intent on doing the same here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 06:56 PM (aDwsi)

115 Sexiest Load HEAT Evah!!!

http://xbradtc.com/2013/04/01/load-heat-131/

Posted by: xbradtc at April 01, 2013 06:56 PM (O0L6N)

116 where each adult male was part of the Militia

Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 10:51 PM (lZBBB)

What the hell are you talking about? That means that the "militia'" encompasses half the population, and the 2nd Amendment articulates a general right to keep and bear arms independent of the organized forces of the state.

That's unacceptable! we can't have that!

Racist!

Posted by: The MBM at April 01, 2013 06:56 PM (0zDXv)

117 102 88 And don't get me started on the f**kin' Hoosiers. Okay, we haven't had an actual war with them, but they're still annoying. "Hoosiers"? I mean, really. Michigan City should go to Michigan, dammit. Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 10:49 PM ============ I should think that you would not mind ceding Gary to Illinois... Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 10:52 PM (aDwsi) That was the original design of Indiana, one in which the Border of Michigan would go from the southern most point of Lake Michigan up to the modern day border point between Ohio, Lake Erie, and Michigan itself. Not wanting a state to be landlocked, Indiana got enough land to have a port on lake Michigan. Ohio's border with Michigan had already been settled, and that it why Indiana and Ohio do not have the same border latitude with Michigan

Posted by: Libertarians hate progress at April 01, 2013 06:56 PM (aPAIU)

118 I spent two weeks in Toledo about 15 years ago. In a shitty hotel for a management conference. Has it gotten any better? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 10:50 PM (0zDXv) Let's just say we renamed the 10th circle of hell "Toledo" to make it more fear-inducing...

Posted by: Satan at April 01, 2013 06:57 PM (Vk2pI)

119 109 That process is about to become 10 times cheaper thanks to the military industrial complex ala Lockhead Martin. Posted by: Libertarians hate progress at April 01, 2013 10:52 PM (aPAIU) In partnership with.... Israeli technology... Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 10:56 PM (lZBBB) Yay true conservatism, not that anti-establishment crap known as Ron Paul

Posted by: Libertarians hate progress at April 01, 2013 06:57 PM (aPAIU)

120
Screw the war shit. Opening Day was a resounding success.

Brookies split, broiled and garnished with lemon butter salt, and pepper are truly food for the gods.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 01, 2013 06:58 PM (SAMxH)

121 The thing I find most amusing about the awful plight of San Berdoo is that San Bernadino County already has http://tinyurl.com/3apmfac .

Residents of SoCal will instantly recognize, as they'll be familiar with that non-Disney park.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 06:58 PM (kaalw)

122 So, what county does California dissolve into when it goes broke?

Oh, riiiiiiiiiight.......

Posted by: just wonderin' at April 01, 2013 06:58 PM (voeac)

123 The South today has been remade into what the north once was. Before the New South the culture of the south was rather backwards and highly self-limiting. The North today has a rather stable social structure, rather than an elastic one. That property has switched Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 10:47 PM This. Not to go all bizarro Rhett Butler, but look where the manufacturing base has migrated to over the past thirty or fifty years. In our first Civil War, the North could make things, the South could grow things. Now, the South can not only grow things, but now they can make things. As an aside, maybe we should have a weekly "war-gaming" thread. The AoSHQ is a "smart, military blog" after all

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 01, 2013 06:58 PM (JMmQ9)

124 Which is worse, Gary or Toledo

Posted by: Alex at April 01, 2013 06:58 PM (aPAIU)

125 Used Semen Tank was my Nickname at Occidental. Know what I mean?

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at April 01, 2013 06:58 PM (jucos)

126 My Grand dad and Great Grand dad where both in an NC Militia that was originally commissioned by Geo. Washington. I have a 3 foot wide photo of them, and the whole unit in full dress at Valley Forge in 1926 celebrating 150 years of independence.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 10:51 PM (4Mv1T)

What a great remembrance!

Posted by: Tami [/i] at April 01, 2013 06:58 PM (X6akg)

127 119: actually the south had less farmland than the north, the south was in general less populated

Posted by: Alex at April 01, 2013 06:59 PM (aPAIU)

128 What's so sad about the demise of the Central Valley is that it was a vibrant, incredibly productive area just one generation ago.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 07:00 PM (0zDXv)

129

It conscripted every "free able-bodied white male citizen" between the ages of 18 and 45 into a local militia company

1792 Militia Act.... and yes... RACIST!

Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 07:00 PM (lZBBB)

130 Which is worse, Gary or Toledo Posted by: Alex at April 01, 2013 10:58 PM (aPAIU) ------------------------------------------------------- East St. Louis.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2013 07:00 PM (jucos)

131 I have the strategic air command, what does that count for.

Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 07:00 PM (aPAIU)

132 65 Meanwhile St. Krugman predicts California about to enter a new golden age. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 01, 2013 10:45 PM (C36wA) Fuckers can't even keep the power on

Posted by: Ma Bell at April 01, 2013 07:00 PM (RLdcX)

133 126: You win. East St. Louis still has crime because it still exists, unlike Gary Indiana. Also Gary does have an interesting Sand Dune beach

Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 07:01 PM (aPAIU)

134 I have the strategic air command, what does that count for. Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 11:00 PM (aPAIU) I guess it is still good for muslim outreach?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 01, 2013 07:01 PM (9Bj8R)

135 124 What's so sad about the demise of the Central Valley is that it was a vibrant, incredibly productive area just one generation ago.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 11:00 PM (0zDXv)

Actualy still productive.... the problem is the population increased beyond the levels that are needed by farming... and industry can't move in because it takes farmland.... so a lot of useless population....

Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 07:01 PM (lZBBB)

136 Heads on spikes might dissuade them.

Posted by: waldo at April 01, 2013 07:02 PM (TE8aX)

137 Ugly, no good, shitty day here hordelings, so I'm off to bed to make it be tomorrow. Enjoy your ONT.

Posted by: joncelli at April 01, 2013 07:02 PM (CWlPF)

138 So, what county does California dissolve into when it goes broke? Oh, riiiiiiiiiight....... Posted by: just wonderin' at April 01, 2013 10:58 PM (voeac) As much as it would be nice to burden some other country with California, it is still not prime real estate. I say re expatriate the registered Democrats to China with all of their money to boot, in return for retiring the debt they hold over us. As a bonus, black-market organs will get a lot cheaper!

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 01, 2013 07:02 PM (Vk2pI)

139 That story must be an April Fool gag. Like anyone would name a place "Tennessee".

Posted by: andycanuck at April 01, 2013 07:02 PM (VwC86)

140 Re: that whole TN vs GA thing. Two words: Alvin York

Posted by: TejasJudio de la Frontera at April 01, 2013 07:02 PM (99xOX)

141 124: Its amazing that the best areas for agriculture didn't have any useful native plants for agriculture to start with, and the areas that gave birth to agriculture are today total shit holes (Egypt, Mexico, China, and Iraq)

Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 07:02 PM (aPAIU)

142 Which is worse, Gary or Toledo Posted by: Alex at April 01, 2013 10:58 PM Gary

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 01, 2013 07:03 PM (JMmQ9)

143 "You see Georgia with its megapolis, Atlanta, is fast exceeding its natural water supply and after studying the map has decided that the best solution would be the Tennessee river. But there are two problems with this: 1) the river water belongs to Tennessee (via the TVA) and 2) Tennessee aims to keep it." Nothing to worry about. Whom does Obama have to drone/bow down to in order to get this straightened/Gayed out? And if that should fail, I hear he can turn wine into water. Or at least urine. Either/or. Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 01, 2013 07:03 PM (FMeeD)

144 How can San Bernardino and Stockton be bankrupt?

Super Genius and Nobel laureate Paul Krugman says California is back to the Golden Age and swimming in tax money handled by serious intellects like himself

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2013 07:03 PM (mCvL4)

145 134 So, what county does California dissolve into when it goes broke? Oh, riiiiiiiiiight....... Posted by: just wonderin' at April 01, 2013 10:58 PM (voeac) As much as it would be nice to burden some other country with California, it is still not prime real estate. I say re expatriate the registered Democrats to China with all of their money to boot, in return for retiring the debt they hold over us. As a bonus, black-market organs will get a lot cheaper! Posted by: The Political Hat at April 01, 2013 11:02 PM (Vk2pI) Are you sure Drug damaged organs are viable

Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 07:03 PM (aPAIU)

146 Yay true conservatism, not that anti-establishment crap known as Ron Paul

Posted by: Libertarians hate progress at April 01, 2013 10:57 PM (aPAIU)

Sigh.... saying Ron Paul is the voice of Libertarians, is like saying the Westboro Baptist church speaks for Christians....

Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 07:04 PM (lZBBB)

147 131 124 What's so sad about the demise of the Central Valley is that it was a vibrant, incredibly productive area just one generation ago.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 01, 2013 11:00 PM (0zDXv)

Actualy still productive.... the problem is the population increased beyond the levels that are needed by farming... and industry can't move in because it takes farmland.... so a lot of useless population....

Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 11:01 PM (lZBBB)

Having driven through it recently, a lot of it looks like a fookin' desert -- something about Ma Pelosi and the treehugger mafia cutting water allotments.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 07:04 PM (kaalw)

148 Super Genius and Nobel laureate Paul Krugman says California is back to the Golden Age and swimming in tax money handled by serious intellects like himself So they've gone Enron?

Posted by: zsasz at April 01, 2013 07:04 PM (MMC8r)

149 139: It has plenty of water, it just needs more dams to hold it during drought periods

Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 07:04 PM (aPAIU)

150 Tennessee needs to remind Georgia that Georgia has miles of coast line that could have desalinization plants turning sea water into drinking water while Tennessee is completely landlocked. Posted by: Darth Randall at April 01, 2013 10:50 PM (mV8sg) Not for long it won't!

Posted by: Tennessee will Anschluß Georgia at April 01, 2013 07:04 PM (Vk2pI)

151 Also part of the Tennessee river is in Alabama

Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 07:05 PM (aPAIU)

152 If TN and GA think they have a water war, wait until the next long drought and it's a 3 state war between CA, AZ, and NV

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2013 07:05 PM (mCvL4)

153 Tennessee could just damn that shit.

Posted by: zsasz at April 01, 2013 07:06 PM (MMC8r)

154 134 So, what county does California dissolve into when it goes broke?

Oh, riiiiiiiiiight.......

Posted by: just wonderin' at April 01, 2013 10:58 PM (voeac)

As much as it would be nice to burden some other country with California, it is still not prime real estate.

I say re expatriate the registered Democrats to China with all of their money to boot, in return for retiring the debt they hold over us.

As a bonus, black-market organs will get a lot cheaper!

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 01, 2013 11:02 PM (Vk2pI)

California is absolutely prime real estate. I'd love to take it with me when I go -- and if it were neutron-bombed, I'd be one of those waiting on the fringe with a geiger counter to be the first back into the state.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 07:06 PM (kaalw)

155 Or 'dam' it, even.

Posted by: zsasz at April 01, 2013 07:06 PM (MMC8r)

156 Sound day

Posted by: Noise at April 01, 2013 07:06 PM (EWbXU)

157 142: big L, man BIG FUCKING L. IF YOUR NOT BIG L, your not a true Libertarian, your still a republican

Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 07:06 PM (aPAIU)

158 If TN and GA think they have a water war, wait until the next long drought and it's a 3 state war between CA, AZ, and NV Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2013 11:05 PM (mCvL4) ------------------------------------------------------- Most of "their" water comes directly from my bosom

Posted by: Colorado at April 01, 2013 07:07 PM (jucos)

159 Ah yes our states amazing 9.8% unemployment, this truly is a golden age for California.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2013 07:07 PM (NzBQO)

160 I must know before I go to bed: Why shouldn't a guy polish up his silver coinage? Especially when some of his war nickels are black with tarnish?

Posted by: Socktopus at April 01, 2013 07:07 PM (1FLBb)

161

Having driven through it recently, a lot of it looks like a fookin' desert -- something about Ma Pelosi and the treehugger mafia cutting water allotments.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 11:04 PM (kaalw)

I-5? or Highway 99.... West side of the Valley has always been arid (I-5)... add in a couple of drought years and you get what it looks like now...

Up Highway 99? on the East Side of the Valley? Extremly green and productive...

Its like the land NORTH of Denver in Colorado, going out into the Plains... not enough water in minimal years.... so it looks great some years... really crappy others...

Posted by: Romeo13..... at April 01, 2013 07:07 PM (lZBBB)

162 148 If TN and GA think they have a water war, wait until the next long drought and it's a 3 state war between CA, AZ, and NV Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2013 11:05 PM (mCvL4) That will be bad. Really, really bad

Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 07:07 PM (aPAIU)

163 72 You can have it.

Posted by: Tuna at April 01, 2013 07:08 PM (M/TDA)

164 152 142: big L, man BIG FUCKING L. IF YOUR NOT BIG L, your not a true Libertarian, your still a republican Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 11:06 PM (aPAIU) --- Would that be the big tent or a periphery tent?

Posted by: Socktopus at April 01, 2013 07:08 PM (1FLBb)

165 153: which comes from me, the god of all water

Posted by: The Pacific Ocean at April 01, 2013 07:08 PM (aPAIU)

166 155 I must know before I go to bed:

Why shouldn't a guy polish up his silver coinage? Especially when some of his war nickels are black with tarnish?

Posted by: Socktopus at April 01, 2013 11:07 PM (1FLBb)

Removes a layer of silver.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 07:08 PM (kaalw)

167 159: Tent of those who don't want america to die.

Posted by: The Pacific Ocean at April 01, 2013 07:08 PM (aPAIU)

168 72 As a matter of fact take Cleveland too.

Posted by: Tuna at April 01, 2013 07:09 PM (M/TDA)

169 During the drought of '07 here, our reservoir stayed 3/4 full, serving our community of about 170,000, while the reservoirs of our adjacent capital city ran nearly dry, as did the reservoir of another small city 15 miles away.

Made me really think about how it didn't really matter that we had water if the others don't, 'cause it could get real ugly, real fast if the drought had continued any longer than it did.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 07:09 PM (4Mv1T)

170 Are you sure Drug damaged organs are viable Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 11:03 PM (aPAIU) Shhh, don't tell the Chi-coms that, or else they'll never take those schmucks off of our hands!

Posted by: The Political Hat, Kyriarch Extraordinaire at April 01, 2013 07:09 PM (Vk2pI)

171 Damn, I suck at socks tonight

Posted by: Alex, sock user at April 01, 2013 07:09 PM (aPAIU)

172 This site is dead because of M

Posted by: Noise2 at April 01, 2013 07:09 PM (EWbXU)

173 California should first declare war on the delta smelt.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2013 07:10 PM (NzBQO)

174 163 72 As a matter of fact take Cleveland too. Posted by: Tuna at April 01, 2013 11:09 PM (M/TDA) But to do that they would have to take Sandusky, the location of Cedar Point. I don't want Michigan to control something so awesome

Posted by: Alex, sock user at April 01, 2013 07:10 PM (aPAIU)

175 155 I must know before I go to bed:

Why shouldn't a guy polish up his silver coinage? Especially when some of his war nickels are black with tarnish? Posted by: Socktopus at April 01, 2013 11:07 PM
====
Among other things, you remove some of the metal. It also causes the features to become less distinct

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 07:10 PM (aDwsi)

176

Ohio should have surrendered everything north of Columbus to MI.

Posted by: Big Zesty at April 01, 2013 07:11 PM (v85iE)

177 Georgia is nuts if it thinks any Tennessean will gladly suffer being turned into a Georgian by a court ruling.

Posted by: Cato at April 01, 2013 07:11 PM (l/y/E)

178 I read somewhere that the border of Illinois was moved northward in order to give Illinois more waterfront. The formerly Wisconsin residents that lived there were pretty pissed about that one.

Posted by: navybrat at April 01, 2013 07:11 PM (SWuSg)

179 Sock sucker.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 01, 2013 07:11 PM (VwC86)

180 If TN and GA think they have a water war, wait until the next long drought and it's a 3 state war between CA, AZ, and NV Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2013 11:05 PM (mCvL4) I say NV and AZ team up and bring in reinforcements from other states. Remember the Owes Valley!

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 01, 2013 07:11 PM (Vk2pI)

181 The problem with libertarianism is that its pretty much wide open as a definition, and you wind up with freak-ball fringes on both Left and Right spectrums. Relatively banal liberty types in the middle, and print-your-own-money neo-anarchists or pot-obsessed neo-hippies or racio-conpiracy loons on the edges. It becomes hard to know what any particular individual might apply the 'libertarian' label to.

Posted by: zsasz at April 01, 2013 07:12 PM (MMC8r)

182 I'm really tired of fashion experts telling me that capris make women look fat. Iowa summer is too hot for long pants and no one wants to see me in shorts.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 01, 2013 07:12 PM (DoZD+)

183 I spent 8 years living next door to Gary, IN.

It was awful.

Posted by: xbradtc at April 01, 2013 07:12 PM (O0L6N)

184 167 California should first declare war on the delta smelt.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2013 11:10 PM (NzBQO)

Par for the course for the city by the bay -- http://tinyurl.com/cjsb6nk .

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 07:13 PM (kaalw)

185 175: which is why labels become somewhat meaningless.

Posted by: Alex, sock user at April 01, 2013 07:13 PM (aPAIU)

186 Capris are hot. Who'd complain about Capris in an informal setting?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 01, 2013 07:13 PM (VwC86)

187 "114 I spent two weeks in Toledo about 15 years ago. In a shitty hotel for a management conference. " Why didn't they hold the conference in Detroit. They have lovely amenities.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 07:14 PM (TmyQl)

188 167: ah, but we have manipulated California to declare war on itself

Posted by: Delta Smelt at April 01, 2013 07:14 PM (aPAIU)

189 Ah yes our states amazing 9.8% unemployment, this truly is a fools golden age for California. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2013 11:07 PM (NzBQO) Fixed.

Posted by: Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico at April 01, 2013 07:14 PM (Vk2pI)

190 177 I spent 8 years living next door to Gary, IN. It was awful. Posted by: xbradtc at April 01, 2013 11:12 PM (O0L6N) In Lincoln an armed robbery is front of the Local page news. how often did they mention each murder there

Posted by: Delta Smelt at April 01, 2013 07:15 PM (aPAIU)

191 I once spent two weeks in Toledo while just driving thru. It was awful.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2013 07:15 PM (jucos)

192 It's been awhile since I been up that ways but does Merle still play in Hiawassee?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 01, 2013 07:15 PM (CCE1r)

193 Tennessee and Georgia need high-speed rivers that get water to folks at 21st Century speed.

Posted by: eman at April 01, 2013 07:16 PM (bP2re)

194 I say NV and AZ team up and bring in reinforcements from other states.

Remember the Owes Valley!

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 01, 2013 11:11 PM (Vk2pI)

As a former Eastern California, we would gladly let you come on by right through to the coast.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2013 07:17 PM (NzBQO)

195 I once spend a lifetime getting lost in Chicago, ending up in the South Side. Awful is not the right word for it

Posted by: Ma Bell at April 01, 2013 07:17 PM (RLdcX)

196 If TN and GA think they have a water war, wait until the next long drought and it's a 3 state war between CA, AZ, and NV Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2013 11:05 PM (mCvL4) That will be bad. Really, really bad Posted by: Alex, Benevolent dictator of Nebraska at April 01, 2013 11:07 PM (aPAIU) So what if nevada and arizona takes that yucky river water. Let them drink Perrier!

Posted by: Typical Hollywood Actress at April 01, 2013 07:18 PM (Vk2pI)

197 189: God Damn America

Posted by: Obumbles preacher at April 01, 2013 07:18 PM (aPAIU)

198

OT--listening to Limbaugh on the way to work today, he was talking to some lady from Florida on SSDI. He was feeling very sympathetic to her because she had to spend 2 years on disability before she got enrolled in Medicare. So, what were her disabilities you ask? Bipolar, depression, anxiety, and arthritis. Oh, and she was a state employee.

Now, I understand that a FEW people will have severe, crippling psychologic disorders, but this drives me nuts. The SSDI farce is bleeding the coffers dry, and the large number of people on SSDI for psych issues IMO for the most part need to to put on their big boy/girl panties and go to work and deal with it.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 01, 2013 07:18 PM (FqcJu)

199 Someone is lying

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 07:19 PM (YqTS7)

200 I'm watching Banacek.

Wow, what a blast from the past.

Posted by: mpfs, assault fishstick at April 01, 2013 07:19 PM (TCy/B)

201 154 Ah yes our states amazing 9.8% unemployment, this truly is a golden age for California.

Future generations will remember today as the good old days...as they enjoy 50% unemployment and wander the empty byways and empty buildings of Silicon Valley like it were some strange hi-tech zombie theme park looking for scraps of metal to loot and any twinkies in vending machines that were missed by previous waves of looters.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 07:19 PM (/gHaE)

202 Meh. When Rhode Island invades Texas I'll pay notice.

Posted by: eman at April 01, 2013 07:19 PM (bP2re)

203 wild and free

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 07:20 PM (YqTS7)

204

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 07:20 PM (YqTS7)

205 @184 Delta Smelt

When I got there in '95, on average, about one young black male a day. It got better, but not much. Still a staggeringly high murder rate.

Posted by: xbradtc at April 01, 2013 07:20 PM (O0L6N)

206 I know we were complicated

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 07:21 PM (YqTS7)

207 189 I once spend a lifetime getting lost in Chicago, ending up in the South Side. Awful is not the right word for it

Posted by: Ma Bell at April 01, 2013 11:17 PM (RLdcX)

I did a lightning-trip to Chicago one year to survey a bankrupt competitor to see if we wanted to bid on some assets. Stayed at a TraveLodge next to Midway Airport......somehow, they neglected to mention that it backed up to the Tootsie-Roll factory.

Everything I had with me on the trip smelled like Tootsie-Rolls until it was washed, including laptops, luggage, eyeglasses, notebooks.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 07:22 PM (kaalw)

208 199: no i mean 'how much attention was paid to each murder'?

Posted by: Alex at April 01, 2013 07:22 PM (aPAIU)

209 take these words

the night begins again

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 07:23 PM (YqTS7)

210 IIRC, the services developed their Codes of Conduct after the Korean War.

Posted by: no good deed at April 01, 2013 07:23 PM (mjR67)

211 195 154
Ah yes our states amazing 9.8% unemployment, this truly is a golden age for California.

Future generations will remember today as the good old days...as they enjoy 50% unemployment and wander the empty byways and empty buildings of Silicon Valley like it were some strange hi-tech zombie theme park looking for scraps of metal to loot and any twinkies in vending machines that were missed by previous waves of looters.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 11:19 PM (/gHaE)

....and I'm really, really, really hoping to be cashed-out and long-gone by then -- but it just keeps rushing nearer.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 07:24 PM (kaalw)

212 @202DS

The Gary paper actually paid a fair bit of attention. But unless it was a triple homicide, not a blip on the Chicago news. After all, Gary also had to compete with Hammond, East Chicago and a buttload of Chicago burbs for murders.

Posted by: xbradtc at April 01, 2013 07:24 PM (O0L6N)

213 xbrad , your cav poster was awesome .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 01, 2013 07:25 PM (USjX1)

214 Somewhat timely topic of discussion... I was visifting family on Sunday, and my father's wife mentioned that she had heard that Texas had "applied" for secession, and was "denied"....assumably by the Barry administration. I said that it was infact, the right of a state to secede from teh union should they wish to do so, just as an individual has the right to disassociate from a relationship, or an employee has the right to leave the employ of a company he is no longer satisfied working for. Or, that a corporation may dissolve, should all parties wish to leave that cooperative and move on. Dad said we had tried this before, and look what happened - civil war; brother against brother, hundreds of thousands of dead, do we (that is, do I) really want to go through that again? After asserting my position again, i told everyone there (3-4 idiots, plus dad and his wife...all idiots related to her) that, should civil war become reality, i was not that concerned, be cause these day, we settle conflicts differently - that is, there would most likely be no massive invasions, no bombing of innocent civilians, no tactical bombings or artillery - this still is after, American soil - and that teh polictical class settles our differences peacefully now - lots of meeting and talk and input / comments from celebrities... besides, most progressives i know would be happy to let those stupid, ugly, fat, tea party rednecks leave our omnipotent and benificial "democracy" to fend for them selves... What do yall think?

Posted by: Steely Danzig at April 01, 2013 07:25 PM (CB4QO)

215 I went to college in Chicago for four years.

When the wind was blowing up from the south, I swear I could smell Gary, Indiana.

Uch.

Posted by: Lewis at April 01, 2013 07:25 PM (UB1pV)

216 I read somewhere that the border of Illinois was moved northward in order to give Illinois more waterfront. The formerly Wisconsin residents that lived there were pretty pissed about that one.

Posted by: navybrat at April 01, 2013 11:11 PM (SWuSg)

No, it was to claim Rockford and the Cheap Trick museum.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at April 01, 2013 07:26 PM (29vnO)

217 "171 Georgia is nuts if it thinks any Tennessean will gladly suffer being turned into a Georgian by a court ruling. Posted by: Cato" Is Puffy Judd's house in that part of Tennessee? Losing her to Georgia could be a plus.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 07:26 PM (TmyQl)

218 "Bloodstained mattresses" and "Ariana Huffington" - I do not like having both of those thoughts in my head at the same time. If I had to chose one, I'd pick "bloodstained mattresses" as being more pleasant to contemplate than the b known as Ariana Huffington. Now there's someone I wish had stayed in Greece.

Posted by: Donna V. thanks God for baseball at April 01, 2013 07:27 PM (R3gO3)

219 Everything I had with me on the trip smelled like Tootsie-Rolls until it was washed, including laptops, luggage, eyeglasses, notebooks..... Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 11:22 PM (kaalw) -------------------------------------------------------- At least Tootsie Rolls smell somewhat good. I used to have Smithfield Foods as a customer. You could smell the place from about 3 miles out. Once there You almost puked from the smell, and then I has to throw away my clothes once I got home because the smell could not be washed away. Best way to describe it was the smell of burned hair.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2013 07:27 PM (jucos)

220

"and my father's wife mentioned that she had heard that Texas had "applied" for secession, and was "denied"

I hope your dad is enjoying some part of her assets, as her mind is evidently pretty much shot...

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 07:28 PM (lbiWb)

221 "Bloodstained mattresses" and "Ariana Huffington" - I do not like having both of those thoughts in my head at the same time. If I had to chose one, I'd pick "bloodstained mattresses" as being more pleasant to contemplate than the b known as Ariana Huffington. Now there's someone I wish had stayed in Greece. Posted by: Donna V. thanks God for baseball at April 01, 2013 11:27 PM (R3gO3) Ariana Huffington is proof that a harpie of a woman can turn a man gay

Posted by: Mike Huffington at April 01, 2013 07:29 PM (Vk2pI)

222 God Damn America

Posted by: Obumbles preacher at April 01, 2013 11:18 PM (aPAIU)

Its in the Bible, ya know, in book and verse so and so.

Posted by: Jeremiah Wright at April 01, 2013 07:29 PM (vfB2N)

223 "176 I'm really tired of fashion experts telling me that capris make women look fat. Iowa summer is too hot for long pants and no one wants to see me in shorts. Posted by: katya the designated driver " I used to think that until I tried some on. If you get a good cut and cloth, they're about the same as a pair of jeans. If they're cut wide, they can look boxy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 07:29 PM (TmyQl)

224 Tennessee has a Nazi-inspired flag, as everyone knows from LGF. So obviously Atlanta is in the right here.

Posted by: Zimriel at April 01, 2013 07:29 PM (QTHTd)

225 besides, most progressives i know would be happy to let those stupid, ugly, fat, tea party rednecks leave our omnipotent and benificial "democracy" to fend for them selves...

What do yall think?

Posted by: Steely Danzig at April 01, 2013 11:25 PM (CB4QO)

If only we could choose to live in traditional or progressive America by county -- http://tinyurl.com/ybbkmtx

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 07:30 PM (kaalw)

226 /sorry, had to.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 01, 2013 07:30 PM (QTHTd)

227 The trumpets are blaring
The boys of spring

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 07:30 PM (YqTS7)

228 So, I accepted at the University of Chicago without ever making a visit. (I'm from the Northeast)

My mom drives me out there, and we stay in a motel in Joliet. Next morning, we head into Chicago for the first time. We stop at a Kentucky Fried Chicken to grab some lunch, and, upon walking through the establishment's doors, we're greeted by employees behind bullet-proof glass and a security camera panning the room.

Helluva first impression of that town.

Posted by: Lewis at April 01, 2013 07:31 PM (UB1pV)

229 189 I once spend a lifetime getting lost in Chicago, ending up in the South Side. Awful is not the right word for it
Posted by: Ma Bell at April 01, 2013 11:17 PM (RLdcX)

Did you meet a man named Leroy Brown?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 01, 2013 07:32 PM (C36wA)

230 This CT-35/80 used tank ------------ I own several. In fact, they're nearly at capacity and I need to buy some more.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at April 01, 2013 07:32 PM (LJ2uj)

231

Capris are hot. Who'd complain about Capris in an informal setting?

Not a single woman I know. I remember the pre-capri days when us old and plump women were slaves to hot summer days, condemned to either swelter in long pants or look deranged and hideous in shorts.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 01, 2013 07:33 PM (DoZD+)

232 @207AD, I stole it, of course. Glad you liked it. One of my best friends from HS is Cav, so I HAD to post that.

Posted by: xbradtc at April 01, 2013 07:33 PM (O0L6N)

233 Did you meet a man named Leroy Brown? Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 01, 2013 11:32 PM (C36wA) ------------------------------------------------------- How about Turner Brown? A small guy goes into an elevator, looks up and notices a huge dude standing next to him. The big dude looks down upon the small guy and says, Â“7 feet tall, 350 pounds, 20 inch penis, 3 pound left testicle, 3 pound right testicle, Turner Brown.Â” The small guy faints. The big dude picks up the small guy and brings him to, slapping his face and shaking him and asks the small guy, Â“WhatÂ’s wrong with you?Â” The small guy says, Â“Excuse me, but what did you say?Â” The big dude looks down and says, Â“7 feet tall, 350 pounds, 20 inch penis, 3 pound left testicle, 3 pound right testicle, Turner Brown.Â” The small guy says, Â“Thank God! I thought you said Â‘Turn aroundÂ’.Â”

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2013 07:34 PM (jucos)

234 I always get the timing screwed up. The meatloaf is done and is sitting on the counter, while the potatoes are still boiling and have a ways to go yet. I'm not sure how meatloaf and mashed potatoes play into the whole North/South thing, though.

Posted by: rickl at April 01, 2013 07:34 PM (sdi6R)

235 Local channel 4 making fun of TFG skills. Evenin' all. The USMC musuem has a great Korean War room. You enter it and it's way colder than the rest. You're getting mortared at night.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2013 07:35 PM (sqp6o)

236 I'll just say this now. Bryce Harper is on pace for hitting well over 300 Home Runs this season.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2013 07:35 PM (jucos)

237 "In Lincoln an armed robbery is front of the Local page news. how often did they mention each murder there Posted by: Delta Smelt" A couple of decades ago, my ex sister in law's very liberal brother and his wife moved to what was supposed to be a pretty decent neighborhood in the city of Detroit. 'Cause, as liberals, they're all tolerant and unbigotted and open minded. So one evening they stepped out of their car and some person of color pointed a gun at their heads and robbed them. When a cop came, yeah at that time the cops actually responded, the cop's question was, "You mean this is the first time you've been robbed?" They moved out that weekend.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 07:36 PM (TmyQl)

238 If only we could choose to live in traditional or progressive America by county -- http://tinyurl.com/ybbkmtx Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 11:30 PM so, I should move one county north, into Livingston County? I'm down with that.

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 01, 2013 07:36 PM (JMmQ9)

239 Re Georgia v. Tenn. This is actually a very old dispute coming from Georgia's cession of its western territories and the 1818 survey of the border. In short, the survey was erroneous. However, the same border was specified by Congress in the 1818 cession and the readmission of Georgia to the Union after the Civil War. Since then, Georgia has around 18 different resolutions claiming the land. Longest time period between the resolutions was 37 years in length. Normally, you might think that this was a moot case however U.S. Supreme Court precedent which would handle the dispute under its original jurisdiction (resolving both law and facts in the case) has ruled previously that 42 years is the maximum.

Regarding the original jurisdiction of the court, it quite frequently hears challenges over state borders. http://www.answers.com/topic/boundary-disputes-between-states Also see Interstate Disputes for more http://www.sunypress.edu/p-4302-interstate-disputes.aspx

Posted by: wg at April 01, 2013 07:36 PM (UPkR4)

240 Home runs

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 07:36 PM (YqTS7)

241 Yeah , xbrad , my dad was mechanized infantry back in the old days . Outta' Ft. Riley , no less ..He'd have loved that one .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 01, 2013 07:36 PM (USjX1)

242 If Georgia needs water, we in Virginia would be happy to give them Northern Virginia and the Potomac River gratis.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 01, 2013 07:37 PM (Zd/NW)

243 My saga with Dell continues.

I bought a system with win7...one of the last few. Now they are offering to replace it with a win8 system.

So...good news they are willing to replace...bad news it is win8.

Just how much should I say no to win8???

Posted by: 18-1 at April 01, 2013 07:38 PM (zPVBH)

244 I'm not sure how meatloaf and mashed potatoes play into the whole North/South thing, though.

Posted by: rickl at April 01, 2013 11:34 PM (sdi6R)

One word: diorama. Let your imagination run wild.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at April 01, 2013 07:38 PM (29vnO)

245

"You enter it and it's way colder than the rest."

Toured w/Uncle A (one of the Frozen Chosin) who said, and I quote - "isn't cold enough in here". Didn't have much else to say about that.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 07:39 PM (lbiWb)

246 If Georgia needs water, we in Virginia would be happy to give them Northern Virginia and the Potomac River gratis. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 01, 2013 11:37 PM (Zd/NW) --------------------------------------------------------- The Potomac is Maryland's to the Virginia shore

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2013 07:39 PM (jucos)

247 @236, the Potawmack is MD property...

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 07:40 PM (lbiWb)

248 my tongue stings with C02

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 07:41 PM (YqTS7)

249 The Potomac is Maryland's to the Virginia shore

Looks like we have another border dispute in the works.

Posted by: fluffy at April 01, 2013 07:41 PM (z9HTb)

250 213 Everything I had with me on the trip smelled like Tootsie-Rolls until it was washed, including laptops, luggage, eyeglasses, notebooks.....
Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 11:22 PM (kaalw)
--------------------------------------------------------
At least Tootsie Rolls smell somewhat good. I used to have Smithfield Foods as a customer. You could smell the place from about 3 miles out. Once there You almost puked from the smell, and then I has to throw away my clothes once I got home because the smell could not be washed away. Best way to describe it was the smell of burned hair.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2013 11:27 PM (jucos)

OK, time to trot out a favorite auditing anecdote.

Auditors get to go out and do intense stuff at a client, then write a report and leave. Mostly it's a decent gig, though it wins you little love from the folks being scrutinized. Occasionally, though.....

I was working in the Silicon Valley office of a major national CPA firm. They had a client in a Central Valley city that we'll call "Ciudad" that was The Audit From Hell. People would practically gnaw limbs off in order to avoid being assigned to that client -- despite it being a profitable honest business staffed with agreeable, friendly, and honorable people. It's just that there were a couple of things that were....er....problematic. The first was that their year-end was, IIRC, August -- and it is hotter than blazes in the Central Valley in August. The second was that the company was "Ciudad Tallow", and their inventory consisted of animal parts that couldn't make it into human or animal food.

One nearly mandatory audit procedure for year-end is to "observe an inventory." What this means, in practice, is that the client has to mostly complete their count and you have to go and spot-check how accurate they were. In the case of a tallow company, the inventory consisted of a large asphalt lot with painted-on numbered stalls heaped with animal parts. Anyone sane would get out there and count the horrible stuff as early in the morning as possible, when it was cool....which left the auditors to go out and do spot checks at 3 in the afternoon. In August. Then they got to drive two hours back to Silicon Valley and do something with their clothes. And cars. And shower a few times. And leave the workpapers out on their balconies overnight.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 07:42 PM (kaalw)

251 RE 214 - heh, all assets belong to him....and yes, this is what we talk about on Easter in Fallbrook, CA Im only still livin here for the surfin...

Posted by: Steely Danzig at April 01, 2013 07:42 PM (CB4QO)

252 someone upthread said "Meatloaf" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4MFxcFofkY

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 01, 2013 07:43 PM (JMmQ9)

253 The colonies of Virginia and Maryland fought a brief naval engagement in the waters of the Chesapeake bay over possession of Smith Island in the 1620's. Maryland won the day and gained control over the rights to the Potomac River as part of the peace agreement. To this day the Virginia line is the bank of the river and the waters fall totally under Maryland jurisdiction.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 01, 2013 07:43 PM (l3vZN)

254 "I'm not sure how meatloaf and mashed potatoes play into the whole North/South thing, though. Posted by: rickl " Yummy. Meatloaf sandwiches tomorrow?

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 01, 2013 07:44 PM (TmyQl)

255 Perhaps if the esteemed legions of fact checkers at the NYT had bothered to look up the definition of 'resurrect', they may have avoided their mistake. But, no, Sooper Jeaneouses needn't bother...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 01, 2013 07:45 PM (gJeT3)

256

"The Potomac is Maryland's to the Virginia shore"

Was, but that changed when the Commonwealth noticed that it held the entrance to the Chesapeake. Negotiated low water mark, then other shoreline features, then finally to today's oddball line.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 07:45 PM (lbiWb)

257 So is secession a truly viable option for thhat state, and its people, who wish to leave the federal clusterfuck?

Posted by: Steely Danzig at April 01, 2013 07:45 PM (CB4QO)

258 Toured w/Uncle A (one of the Frozen Chosin) who said, and I quote - "isn't cold enough in here". Didn't have much else to say about that. Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 11:39 PM (lbiWb) Don't get me wrong, i know it wasn't near what they went through. When you have to piss on your weapon to defrost it you're in hell on earth. Much respect to your Unclr.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2013 07:45 PM (sqp6o)

259 Uncle.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2013 07:45 PM (sqp6o)

260 Why do we not like the M???

Reminds me of the Beiber...

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 07:46 PM (YqTS7)

261 Re border disputes and secession, it's always been my opinion that a state can't secede on it's own volition. It can petition the other states and there would be a vote. Note this wouldn't involve the Feds. Screw them. They can't do anything that we won't let them do. Oh, I live in Ohio. Not much chance here. I can dream though.

Posted by: Big Zesty at April 01, 2013 07:46 PM (v85iE)

262 Another little known info nugget is that Smith Island and Tangier Island residents speak an english that is all but unintelligble. You would never know they were speaking english. Almost sounds Gaelic.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2013 07:47 PM (jucos)

263 237 My saga with Dell continues.

I bought a system with win7...one of the last few. Now they are offering to replace it with a win8 system.

So...good news they are willing to replace...bad news it is win8.

Just how much should I say no to win8???

Posted by: 18-1 at April 01, 2013 11:38 PM (zPVBH)

Ever see Alien? How much should you say no to an intimate date with a facehugger?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2013 07:47 PM (kaalw)

264 I didn't think the NYT could surprise me with their stupidity, but this correction did just that. Not only that they didn't know what Easter is, but that they think one can be "resurrected into heaven", um, how does one get "resurrected" into heaven? The word they were looking for is "ascended". Idiots don't know Christianty OR the dictionary either. How are they still in business?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 01, 2013 07:47 PM (KL49F)

265 Since we're on the subject of the Civil War, I rented Lincoln over the weekend. Besides it being highly over rated, something was bugging me about Day-Lewis's performance. It finally hit me today, all he was doing was a slowed down with less volume Walter Brennan impersonation.
And that's what he won an Oscar for.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 01, 2013 07:47 PM (Fz2C7)

266 243 The Potomac is Maryland's to the Virginia shore Looks like we have another border dispute in the works. Posted by: fluffy at April 01, 2013 11:41 PM (z9HTb) We're armed. MD is trying their best to be subjects.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2013 07:48 PM (sqp6o)

267 @247, popular myth, but still a myth. It would've been tough to have a "MD/VA" conflict @ 1620s as the Maryland Charter wasn't granted until 1632

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 07:48 PM (lbiWb)

268 re 227: was the small guy wearing mom jeans and married to a woman named Michelle, by any chance?

Posted by: mallfly at April 01, 2013 07:49 PM (jDjlM)

269 I rented Lincoln over the weekend and was really disappointed.

Posted by: Big Zesty at April 01, 2013 07:50 PM (v85iE)

270 We're armed. MD is trying their best to be subjects.

Baltimore is a Gun-Free Zone, I believe.

Posted by: fluffy at April 01, 2013 07:50 PM (z9HTb)

271 237 My saga with Dell continues.
Just how much should I say no to win8???
Posted by: 18-1 at April 01, 2013 11:38 PM (zPVBH)

It's not so bad. You can make it look like W7 easily enough.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 01, 2013 07:50 PM (C36wA)

272 Whoops, 1632 for the Maryland/Virginia fracas. Better correct that before the NYT fact checkers get on me.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 01, 2013 07:50 PM (l3vZN)

273 re 264: you're correct: if you belong to a gang, the gun is free

Posted by: mallfly at April 01, 2013 07:51 PM (jDjlM)

274 Delta Smelt! Good to see ya! Where ya been?

Posted by: Mindy at April 01, 2013 07:51 PM (wk9P4)

275 In the 80's the company I worked for had the contract to survey all of the section corners in the county. Some were as much as 180' off of State Plane Coordinate.

It was kind of fun humping through the boonies and the gator nests to mark a section corner.
A section of land is a square 6 miles by 6 miles. A township is both a survey measurement and the simplest form of government. 36 townships per section.

Now they have 24 satellites? We had 2 and the military used the daylight coverage. We had to calculate the time the 2nd satellite was above the horizon after dark.

In the late 80's cell phones were back pack sized. I did have a snicker bar sized phone in the early 90's, but it was recalled and I jumped off the boat with it in my pocked and killed it. Then getting a brick sized replacement.

Posted by: Vmaximus at April 01, 2013 07:51 PM (BkbsI)

276 252/253... Thanks. He passed away just after the 1st of this year. Amazingly so, he could still fit his Dress Blues. Heck of a guy.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 07:51 PM (lbiWb)

277 OTT: Just watched possibly the worst television discussion show I have ever seen, "Get to the Point" on CNN.... Somebody gets paid to put this abomination on television? Instead of the sexy leg shot on Fox News, "Get to the Point" offers the dangling wing tipped shoe of some mush brained pansy waist.....Margeret Hoover's on the show and Danny Deutsch, ex of MSNBC infamy. The show is a total disaster.

Posted by: MoeRon at April 01, 2013 07:51 PM (xrGeT)

278

"Better correct that before the NYT fact checkers get on me"

Yeah, they're right on it. With any luck they'll catch up to their 1930's errors sometime in the next century or so...

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 07:53 PM (lbiWb)

279

"Besides it being highly over rated, something was bugging me about Day-Lewis's performance. "

I saw it last night too and was also unimpressed with both the film and Day-Lewis. Given the material, it takes some doing to make a Civil War movie dull, but Spielberg managed it.

Posted by: Donna V. thanks God for baseball at April 01, 2013 07:54 PM (R3gO3)

280

Ok,

Later all.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 07:55 PM (lbiWb)

281 Hey, has anybody else ever been to Toledo?

Posted by: comatus at April 01, 2013 07:56 PM (qaVK+)

282 I was there last year just to drive through. I saw where the Mudhens play and some bombed out areas.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 01, 2013 07:57 PM (l3vZN)

283 Re 255 - thats pretty much what i was wondering...seems to be no real precedent other than the civil war guess we shall see what happens with the other states disputes with...other states Also, am kinda hoping shit blows up...but just a little, enough for teh preznit and kongress to tKe a break from al the vacations n shit

Posted by: Steely Danzig at April 01, 2013 07:57 PM (CB4QO)

284 I was on my way to the Woodward Ave Dream cruise in much more scenic Metro Detroit.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 01, 2013 07:58 PM (l3vZN)

285 Just how much should I say no to win8?

There's a way to make it look like Windows 7. I'd go with that.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 07:59 PM (/gHaE)

286 "scratched, punctured" wood floors, bloodied mattresses and broken appliances, the Manhattan Supreme Court suit charges.

I just, I just don't want to know......

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2013 08:00 PM (NzBQO)

287 Ok, the Bieber is pretty and such, besides his wrinkly forehead.

No where close to Elvis

Fk you bieber

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 08:00 PM (YqTS7)

288 Mindy, it's just Nebraska Alex. He was socking as the actual fish. Delta's been around so little that Alex probably doesn't know the name is taken.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 01, 2013 08:00 PM (wbeNt)

289 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG(Dedicated Tenther) At Home at April 01, 2013 08:00 PM (nUH8H)

290

Just in long enough to gloat:

I have home-made banana pudding. And you don't.

Posted by: AllenG(Dedicated Tenther) At Home at April 01, 2013 08:01 PM (nUH8H)

291 scenic Metro Detroit

That's where the streetlights illuminate the discarded crack vials making the ground sparkle like a fresh dusting of snow, right?

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 08:01 PM (/gHaE)

292 276: Toledo- home of Champion spark plugs! Been there a bunch. Home town of Jamie Farr and, I think, Danny Thomas, but not sure about DT

Posted by: MoeRon at April 01, 2013 08:03 PM (xrGeT)

293 If you want an armchair tour, get on google maps streetview and look at W. Robinwood St. Detroit.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 01, 2013 08:03 PM (l3vZN)

294 decanter

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 08:03 PM (YqTS7)

295 Thought so.

Posted by: comatus at April 01, 2013 08:04 PM (qaVK+)

296 Catch the wind

Posted by: Fick at April 01, 2013 08:04 PM (YqTS7)

297 240 If Georgia needs water, we in Virginia would be happy to give them Northern Virginia and the Potomac River gratis. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 01, 2013 11:37 PM (Zd/NW) --------------------------------------------------------- The Potomac is Maryland's to the Virginia shore Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 01, 2013 11:39 PM (jucos) Virginia can draw as much water from the Potomac as they want. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_v._Maryland

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 01, 2013 08:05 PM (Zd/NW)

298 Georgia v. Tennessee is just a sideshow.

The real fun will be when Northern and Southern California split up violently and take up arms against one another.

There's a book, _In Smog and Thunder_, all about that. I garner there may be a movie as well. Did read the book. Know nothing about any movie.

Of course, since we're talking about remnant substates of the People's Soviet Socialist Republic of Commiefornia, you can expect cloying bureaucratic disorganization and pathetic military inadequacy on both sides, and can expect for the whole war to go on for a considerable length of time with needless loss of life on both sides. Too bad.

As someone once said about the Iran-Iraq war, "It's a pity they can't both lose."

Posted by: torquewrench at April 01, 2013 08:06 PM (gqT4g)

299 As a Yooper, AKA resident of Michigan's Upper Peninsula, I need only say to the benighted denizens of the Toledo Strip, "The desserts, sometimes they are exceedingly just."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 01, 2013 08:07 PM (NokrH)

300 OK, I'm out tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson (new content up) at April 01, 2013 08:10 PM (JMmQ9)

301

It's Atlanta and the northern suburbs that want water from the Tennessee river. Considering that I lived in Doraville in the early to mid 90's I am fairly aquainted with GA vs AL on the water alocation of the Chatahochee.

Atlanta couldn't run it's water and sewage and was being fined enormous sums per day by the feds. They wanted all of the water in the Chatahochee and now they are making some specious claims to get their grubbies on the nearest available source of fresh water which is the Tennessee River.

Personally, they can all float around in the cesspool currently known as Atlanta and can go pound sand when it comes to stealing water.

They can build desalinzation plants and use the nuke plant to power them. Then they can build a pipeline to the city and tax the locals for its construction costs.

F**k the Moorehouse mafia and the stranglehold they have operating the city of Atlanta.

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at April 01, 2013 08:11 PM (IanLz)

302 Virginia can draw as much water from the Potomac as they want. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_v._Maryland Learn somethiing new every day. That is a recent ruling. A local town in my county was blocked from getting water from the Potomac a decade before that.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 01, 2013 08:11 PM (l3vZN)

303 sup' biotches? spelling? math?

Posted by: Jake in ID at April 01, 2013 08:12 PM (zzeVM)

304 'night. Getting late.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 01, 2013 08:12 PM (l3vZN)

305 The only way I'd tour Detroit is in an MRAP with a squad of heavily armed Marines.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 08:15 PM (/gHaE)

306 Howdy, morons! What's shakin'? I'd ask about the TN-GA thing, but I know for a fact the North GA residents would rather join TN than annex a piece of it - they hate Atlanta more than anybody, and that's not easy to do, since everybody hates Atlanta.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 01, 2013 08:15 PM (un8zR)

307 289 The only way I'd tour Detroit is in an MRAP with a squad of heavily armed Marines.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 02, 2013 12:15 AM (/gHaE)

I'd recommend going in at the company level at a minimum, and more than that if you want to stay for more than a few hours. There's shitholes like Chicago's west and south sides, Toledo, Fallujah '06, etc., and then there's Detroit.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 01, 2013 08:18 PM (un8zR)

308 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 02, 2013 12:00 AM (wbeNt) Ah, I see. Thanks for enlightening me, Polliwogette. Wonder what happened to our original Delta Smelt?

Posted by: Mindy at April 01, 2013 08:18 PM (wk9P4)

309 Purp, you don't need an armored vehicle to tour Detroit anymore, most of it is a ghost-town.

Posted by: Jerry at April 01, 2013 08:19 PM (4SKYj)

310 Posted by: lowandslow at April 01, 2013 11:47 PM (Fz2C7)

Walter Brennan as Grampa in "The Real McCoys" '50's tv show?

OR

Walter Brennan as in Stumpy in "Rio Bravo" the movie?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 01, 2013 08:19 PM (Kpn/z)

311 The only way I'd tour Detroit is in an MRAP with a squad of heavily armed Marines.

Posted by: @PurpAv

Sadly, Detroit's tourism isn't expected to take off anytime soon But, good biz plan none the less.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 01, 2013 08:19 PM (mN8D3)

312

I call April Fools on the ONT.....

now back to the soft ware pin loops on my "DOOMSDAY WEAPON!!!"

Posted by: Richard at April 01, 2013 08:19 PM (G+I7u)

313 I'd recommend going in at the company level at a minimum, and more than that if you want to stay for more than a few hours. There's shitholes like Chicago's west and south sides, Toledo, Fallujah '06, etc., and then there's Detroit. Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 02, 2013 12:18 AM (un8zR) We can build only one Delta City at a time...

Posted by: Omni-Consumer Products at April 01, 2013 08:23 PM (Vk2pI)

314 The only way I'd tour Detroit is in an MRAP with a squad of heavily armed Marines.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 02, 2013 12:15 AM (

I would want a Deathstar.

Posted by: Berserker at April 01, 2013 08:23 PM (FMbng)

315 I would want a Deathstar. Posted by: Berserker at April 02, 2013 12:23 AM (FMbng) Just nuke it form orbit... ...it's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Ripley at April 01, 2013 08:25 PM (Vk2pI)

316 97 87: Don't get me wrong, I like the New south, the south that values merit, rather than social standing Posted by: Alex, Proud Lincolnite at April 01, 2013 10:51 PM (aPAIU) As opposed to Washington, D.C., 90% of the Federal Government as a whole and the entire State of California.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 01, 2013 08:25 PM (YcvtE)

317 "'One in five teenage boys' diagnosed with ADHD..." (from Drudge) Doesn't this make it "normal?" Being more common than the love which dare not speak its name (pause for ironic take) wouldn't active, distracted boys be something that should be celebrated and honored? Eau de diversitee! ADHD - an excuse to keep active and independent minds drugged and ostracized in Big Brother's will-subjugating public youth indoctrination emporiums. Oh ha ha ha. I'm just kidding about all that silly Faraday cage hat stuff. Ha. Ha. And that will probably be my ironic, award by association winning contribution to the verbiage heap tonight. No extra charge unless you wanted crutons. Now to see what the post and comments say. ...

Posted by: a mindful webworker at April 01, 2013 08:28 PM (U13jb)

318 Yo Moar-ons. Border battle means Vikes vs Green Bay

Posted by: zeera at April 01, 2013 08:28 PM (3dXwx)

319 I would want a Deathstar.

Posted by: Berserker at April 02, 2013 12:23 AM (FMbng)

Hard to tour a place when it's been vaporized...it's been cold enough this year without turning Detroit into a toxic ash cloud which will block the sun (and probably do some robbing and poisoning).

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 01, 2013 08:29 PM (un8zR)

320 Posted by: Ripley at April 02, 2013 12:25 AM (Vk2pI) Have you seen Detroit? They're thriving in the aftermath. Nukes aren't the endgame anymore. Regeneration from .gov programs trumps your silly nukes.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2013 08:29 PM (sqp6o)

321 Was just reading some reviews of Win 8. Another stinker my Microsoft.

They spend YEARS browbeating programmers into a unified interface design. They would not certify an app that didn't do so.

NOW. NOW after all that, they CHANGE THE FUCKING INTERFACE???!!!!!!

Who's the genius that decided this? It has the sticky fingers of some fresh young face just out of MBA/Computer Science who has been promoted beyond their experience who has decided that they will ABANDON the last 20 years of interface design for something new and about 20 million commercial users.

There are loads of reviews (all bad) on the web.

http://tinyurl.com/bv796rs Here's one at rivernetcomputers.com that shows how to make the interface back to Win 7 and they give a link to an app that will aid this.

Take the new computer (unless it's not some really, really important problem) but switch to what you want asap. Unless it's a tablet.

(I guess as I don't have a tablet and don't have win 7 let alone win

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 01, 2013 08:30 PM (Kpn/z)

322 301Posted by: a mindful webworker at April 02, 2013 12:28 AM (U13jb)

Wrong kind of diversity. Check the approved list to see which kinds should be promoted and which should be suppressed.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 01, 2013 08:31 PM (un8zR)

323 Have you seen Detroit? They're thriving in the aftermath. Nukes aren't the endgame anymore. Regeneration from .gov programs trumps your silly nukes. Posted by: RWC at April 02, 2013 12:29 AM (sqp6o) So... It's more like the Andromeda Strain...

Posted by: Wildfire Team at April 01, 2013 08:32 PM (Vk2pI)

324 Posted by: Ripley at April 02, 2013 12:25 AM (Vk2pI)

don't you hate it when you blow the quote as a sock?

+++ for effort. - - - for proofreading.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 01, 2013 08:32 PM (Kpn/z)

325 ADHD. For the most part, lazy parents and teachers who don't want to deal with active, normal kids (especially boys).

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 01, 2013 08:33 PM (DoZD+)

326 ADHD. For the most part, lazy parents and teachers who don't want to deal with active, normal kids (especially boys). Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 02, 2013 12:33 AM (DoZD+) Nuh-uh! Gender is just like a social construct and stuff. Once we get rid of the patriarchy, than boys will like just like little girls and if they do not that just means that patriarchy is just around and we need to destroy it some more!!1!

Posted by: Gender Studies Graduate Student at April 01, 2013 08:36 PM (Vk2pI)

327 Speaking of water, supposedly water will be in short supply in a lot more places than Atlanta in the near future. Plus didn't the feds just pretty much say or legislate something granting themselves control over every drop of water larger than a puddle (an upgrade from just controlling "navigable" water?

Posted by: Whatev at April 01, 2013 08:37 PM (A7Wh1)

328 I noticed on a calendar that Take Your Daughter To Work Day has been changed to Take Your Son Or Daughter To Work Day. About time.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 01, 2013 08:37 PM (DoZD+)

329 Posted by: a mindful webworker at April 02, 2013 12:28 AM (U13jb)

No because when they figure the "Normal" amount, they add in the total girls cause of course they're normal boys too.

Even so, 20% seems low. I've heard estimates (because of privacy concerns, the number of those receiving drugs for /been diagnosed with ADHD is tricky to get accurate numbers)

That as many as 50% of boys are getting some drug for their "learning problems" or "social skill difficulties" which is code for some teacher not being able to or not wanting to deal with a boys energy level. Also schools get extra bucks for those who have to take meds and for those that they can manage to force in to special classes.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 01, 2013 08:38 PM (Kpn/z)

330 I just have to say, I'd be proud to be represented by a guy named "Duane Cronic". That is all.

Posted by: Bobymandius, Destroyer of Threads at April 01, 2013 08:39 PM (1efte)

331 Speaking of d_i_v_e_r_s_i_t_y_ I plan on referencing va-jayjay diversity whenever a lefty brings up diversity as in..... " your wife looks to have a diverse va-jayjay, can I try her out?, you know for diversity and multi-culterism....?" I'll report back my findings on the hot ones, don't hold your breath for the plumpies.....

Posted by: Jake in ID at April 01, 2013 08:39 PM (zzeVM)

332

didn't the feds just pretty much say or legislate something granting themselves control over every drop of water larger than a puddle (an upgrade from just conolling "navigable" water?

Already doing that in the cities. Note my monthly water bill. Also, at least in Waterloo, Iowa, we are charged for water drainage as well. Never miss an opportunity to suck the population dry.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 01, 2013 08:40 PM (DoZD+)

333

"'One in five teenage boys' diagnosed with ADHD..."
(from Drudge)

When talking about things "diagnosed" mostly by child psychologists, it is important to remember that "diagnosed" does not actuall mean "has."

Yes, I'm saying ADHD is far, far over-diagnosed, and most of those kids are not actually ADHD. My son would probably be called ADHD if I had him tested- when, in reality, he's a brilliant (yes, really) child who simply gets bored and then acts like 5 year old's act when they get bored.

Want to see him concentrate? Let him play a game. As long as he likes it, it can keep his attention for hours. The same is true of reading, as long as he likes the book.

Posted by: AllenG(Dedicated Tenther) At Home at April 01, 2013 08:40 PM (nUH8H)

334 Oh shit.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 01, 2013 08:41 PM (bxiXv)

335 Yes, my cultural imperatives demand, demand I say, that all unmarried girls, over 18, be required to parade in front of me nude on a sequential basis at my home. Just send them over one at a time.

Diversity you know. My culture is the equal of yours!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 01, 2013 08:42 PM (Kpn/z)

336 A co-worker once wondered if I had ADD

I told her "no, it's that you're just so fucking boring"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2013 08:45 PM (mCvL4)

337 We haven't had any boomstick related comments in a bit - I've ordered my Rifle, model M1, Caliber .30 from the CMP. It will be a bit of a wait, but I've bought a semiautomatic rifle, capable of holding over 7 rounds, and having one or more characteristics of an assault rifle, from a 501(c)3 which started as a congressional program. Suck it, Feinstein.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 01, 2013 08:46 PM (un8zR)

338 292 I've seen him on Twitter Mindy. Not sure how recently though since real life has seriously mucked up my internet addiction.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 01, 2013 08:50 PM (wbeNt)

339 from a 501(c)3 which started as a congressional program. Suck it, Feinstein. Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 02, 2013 12:46 AM (un8zR) I'd say get a M1905 bayonette for said boom stick for discussion value the M1905 bayonet is approx 24 inches long.....

Posted by: Jake in ID at April 01, 2013 08:57 PM (zzeVM)

340 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 02, 2013 12:00 AM (wbeNt) Thanks!

Posted by: Mindy at April 01, 2013 08:57 PM (wk9P4)

341 260 In the 80's the company I worked for had the contract to survey all of the section corners in the county. Some were as much as 180' off of State Plane Coordinate. It was kind of fun humping through the boonies and the gator nests to mark a section corner. A section of land is a square 6 miles by 6 miles. A township is both a survey measurement and the simplest form of government. 36 townships per section. Posted by: Vmaximus at April 01, 2013 11:51 PM (BkbsI) Ah ha! In my boonie-humpin', back road 4 wheeling down here in Southern Illinois, I always come across towns and old abandoned towns that always seemed like they were approximately 6 miles apart. The current towns just off I-57 (Marion, Johnson City, West Frankfort as you go North) all 6 miles, 6 miles, 6 miles. My thing to find out today. Very cool.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 01, 2013 08:59 PM (YcvtE)

342 Are we wide again?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 01, 2013 09:00 PM (YcvtE)

343

My life...

Living in the CA.....the sound black crows make...CA....soon to be picking over the entrails of city after city....yet the high speed rail..YES HIGH SPEED RAIL!!.....(SSHHhhhhh...we are using that money fer CALPERS....SSSssHHHhhh,,,) no high speed rail for u..funky monkey, jus more steamy bath house fun.....

OH!...I have your back,

Respectfully,

Jerry Brown

Posted by: Richard at April 01, 2013 09:02 PM (G+I7u)

344 I'd say get a M1905 bayonette for said boom stick for discussion value

the M1905 bayonet is approx 24 inches long.....

Posted by: Jake in ID at April 02, 2013 12:57 AM (zzeVM)

I'm not all that interested in tricking it out to "historically correct", even for the entertainment value. My main interest is POA / POI at 200 with Hornady factory, cast pills to follow maybe.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 01, 2013 09:03 PM (un8zR)

345 EPA is threatening to sue my city, which is barely large enough to be a city over cleaning up the drinking water "just a little bit more", which the city has computed will turn the average $50/mo water bill into $150/mo. We don't have a shortage of water @ 36 inches of rain a year, it should practially be free.

Posted by: Whatev at April 01, 2013 09:09 PM (A7Wh1)

346 329 EPA is threatening to sue my city, which is barely large enough to be a city over cleaning up the drinking water "just a little bit more", which the city has computed will turn the average $50/mo water bill into $150/mo. We don't have a shortage of water @ 36 inches of rain a year, it should practially be free.

Posted by: Whatev at April 02, 2013 01:09 AM (A7Wh1)

I'm sure it's for your own good, after all. That which is good is mandatory, that which is bad is prohibited.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 01, 2013 09:13 PM (un8zR)

347 Nevada Assembly Considering Gun Bills, Both Good & Bad on Wednesday http://redd.it/1bhxci

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 01, 2013 09:14 PM (Vk2pI)

348 329 Whatev See if you can prevail upon your city to get the EPA to come to a public meeting to discuss things. Prepare your "questions" (research, then ask about "ppm", specific regulations, other cities, etc .... ), and distribute them among 4 or 5 of your friends and allies. Get at least 3 other people to video EVERYTHING. Make sure the sound is clear.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 01, 2013 09:19 PM (ajia0)

349 I'm thinking they could pump the water through a simple filter, and if people want to drink it buy a damn filter, then the water bill will be about $10/mo.. Thats probably why they won't let me run the city, among other reasons.

Posted by: Whatev at April 01, 2013 09:20 PM (A7Wh1)

350 It was kind of fun humping through the boonies and the gator nests to mark a section corner. A section of land is a square 6 miles by 6 miles. A township is both a survey measurement and the simplest form of government. 36 townships per section.

Posted by: Vmaximus at April 01, 2013 11:51 PM (BkbsI)

Um, I think Vmaximus made a typo. A section of area measurement is a square mile (640 acres).

A TOWNSHIP is generally held to be 6 miles by 6 miles. (not necessarily square in shape)

It can vary depending on when and by whom the survey was done and what the State's plan for surveying was. Some of the older states became states before the definitions and standards for layout of a new territory were commonly agreed upon and in widespread use. The Science of Surveying of course dates much further back and since it is based on mathematics is very uniform form place to place. What can vary is the definitions of areas, the layout that is considered "normal" or most fair and any previous markings or delineations that predate the entry of the State to the Union or as a territory.

Which is why the further west you go (newer states) the more square and regular are the townships laid out and the roads are also geometrically aligned.

Exceptions, of course, for the SW corner of the Country where Spanish standards were in use for so long.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 01, 2013 09:24 PM (Kpn/z)

351

FONTS....WITH...COLORS

BOLD TYPE....with margins that flow like waves upon the shore

and Granders of old....please take me back.........I am sore missing...

Posted by: Richard at April 01, 2013 09:29 PM (G+I7u)

352 317 Allen this is the slope. Label them ADHD and get extra money from welfare, but then the boy has that label for life. No gun ownership, etcetera. This is so wrong on so many levels.

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 01, 2013 09:36 PM (vgd4f)

353 Night all. Here is "Edward, The Mad Shirt Grinder" from Quicksilver Messenger Service http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME2pTRseMBA

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 01, 2013 09:39 PM (Vk2pI)

354 Posted by: lou's a girl at April 02, 2013 01:36 AM (vgd4f) the mutha fukkin' problem is there are no men teaching K -6 any more, so for the wimens it is easier to medicate than 'deal' with boys. but I'm retro as a parent.......

Posted by: Jake in ID at April 01, 2013 09:40 PM (zzeVM)

355 so, who is here? did I miss anything?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2013 09:40 PM (Z9EHQ)

356 Georgia just needs to build more lakes outside of the Atlanta metro area. They get plenty of rainfall. Dallas/Ft.Worth has lakes all around their cities. Not only are the lakes a source of water but also recreation areas and land prices go up. The fault here lies with Georgia and their poor planning.

Posted by: Case at April 01, 2013 09:42 PM (gyQY/)

357 nope, sorta the late night gang....

Posted by: Jake in ID at April 01, 2013 09:42 PM (zzeVM)

358 Wonder when Georgia`s going secesh and leaving Atlanta? Probably bout the same time Florida leaves Dade Broward and Palm Beach counties, and then leaves Orlando, Gainesville and Tallahasse landlocked and surrounded by Crackers.

Posted by: rightlysouthern (aim low boys theys ridin ponies) at April 01, 2013 09:45 PM (uOxBm)

359 Georgia does not need more lakes, it needs a moat around atlanta with drawbridges controlled from the Georgia side.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2013 09:47 PM (Z9EHQ)

360 other than Boise and Sun Valey :Idaho is red as shit! the Mexicans and Californians can't flood, well you know... |

Posted by: Jake in ID at April 01, 2013 09:49 PM (zzeVM)

361 Born in a 3 room shack not far from the Cumberland Gap and I still have kin in Tennessee. So naturally side with the Volunteers against them uppity peaching eating Georgians. Don't let them have a single drop. Tennessee and Kentucky folk are some of the best shooters on the planet and we go more hills and hollers to hide in than a wild hog has mud wallows. Bring it on peach eaters. Our old women and babies will shoot out your eyeballs and then hid between the trees. Good a place as any to start the battle for the supremacy of the sovereignty states to defend them selves from enemies foreign and domestic. The union was busted in 1861 and its never been put back together again. And no, it wasn't about slavery. Slavery was fading away by then due to machination. It was about raw power. Hell the Union could have bought every slave and shipped them back to Africa at a mere fraction of the cost of the war. I lnow that will sound racist to tender uninformed ears. But is the truth. We freely joined the union and nothing on the books prevented us from freely leaving. This time it will be 'red' wanting to leave and 'blue' itching to start a war for the nebulous concept of union. We are no longer united. We want the rule of law and the constitution and the way the rule of man via czars, taxes, PC, fraudulent banking, and regulations. Let my people go.

Posted by: angel with a sword at April 01, 2013 09:49 PM (IcPGc)

362 337 Jake. Such a great point. And a lot of these women don't care if their sons don't have dads, such a shame. Kids with both parents are always better off, political correctness be damned!

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 01, 2013 09:49 PM (vgd4f)

363 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goq419rcbCA

This song has taken on a whole new meaning.

Posted by: epobirs at April 01, 2013 09:54 PM (kcfmt)

364 Dad I am, Trying to give my boys...what it is, and fightin the PC crappola every EFFIN day, wife an I battle on the fine points...yet I want my sons to be men.....and I mean...OLD school MEN! This is the TRUE battle for this country....and we are losing I fear....

Posted by: Richard at April 01, 2013 10:00 PM (G+I7u)

365 I think the femi-nazis, yeah I said it have taken over. I mean along with the profs, Marxists, gay mafia, anti-Christians etc. over it.

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 01, 2013 10:03 PM (vgd4f)

366 find a John Wayne hater and then punch them in the mouth. cuz you know if they got a hate on for J.Wayne, they be a pussy who won't punch you while you are looking....

Posted by: Jake in ID at April 01, 2013 10:04 PM (zzeVM)

367 Damn, looking through the UK news for news that US media wants to "minimize" and there's an article about a Mary Tyler Moore sighting. She's looking quite worse for wear.

Posted by: Whatev at April 01, 2013 10:06 PM (A7Wh1)

368 Jake, they will go into the big electoral cities in Idaho an fuck it up. Heed this warning from a once conservative or at least right leaning state. Roaches moving in

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 01, 2013 10:16 PM (vgd4f)

369

seems my last post was too much true and full of flame to allow

It is his site after all...

night and be ready....

Posted by: Richard at April 01, 2013 10:27 PM (G+I7u)

370

With that.....

I kill the thread......

not intended by the way....

just what is...

Posted by: Richard at April 01, 2013 10:45 PM (G+I7u)

371 So what's up with these dual-layer writable DVD's? I just realized this laptop had dual layer write capability, and I'm thinking - cool, 8G+ backups, that would be nice.

Then I go to WMT and check the prices, and they want like $2/disk for the dual layer shit (~$.25/G) and $.38/disk for the normal ones (under $.10/G)

Why would anyone buy writable dual layer disks when the price/G is over 2X?

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 10:53 PM (/gHaE)

372
Why would anyone buy writable dual layer disks when the price/G is over 2X?

Because someone doesn't want to use two discs for the information they're burning?

Giant 8GB file?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 01, 2013 10:57 PM (7um7O)

373 329 EPA is threatening to sue my city

I'd ignore them unless the residents are complaining. Let'em sue, then go bankrupt. My water bill spiked sharply when Palm Beach added a bunch of shit EPA wanted. There was nothing wrong with the water before, and I can't detect any discernible difference after...other than the much higher bill.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 11:00 PM (/gHaE)

374

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 11:00 PM (/gHaE)

375 why do the tennessee volunteers wear orange?

Saturday they go watch football,
Sunday they go huntin
Monday they go back to pickin up trash on the side of the highway

Posted by: dtshangers at April 01, 2013 11:01 PM (RuJhJ)

376 Giant 8GB file?

Unless you got rewritables, that's gonna get expensive if you do it regularly with one-shots. Any competent backup software handles media boundaries transparently.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 11:03 PM (/gHaE)

377 Isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you: isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do what you you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

Posted by: Eric Stratton, rush chairman at April 01, 2013 11:19 PM (M5qgo)

378 Think low tech. An isolated enemy gets a knife across the throat. Ieds are not difficult molotov cocktails are 5th grade. Shoot and scoot is fundamental. small tactics 1, 2,3, at most 4 to a team. Know where local leo, judges ad politicos live. burn them out. They are first on the list. Every lighting attack brings a harvest of new weapons and ammo and tech tech. Hit hard, run and hide. If you haven't been thinking abut this for 20 + years you may be too late to play.

Posted by: angel with a sword at April 01, 2013 11:23 PM (IcPGc)

379 Hot-lanta is Detroit. With a better PR dept., to the rest of us in GA. We don't care what happens to it. Nuke it 'till the rubble bounces....

Posted by: Hi! Speed! Rail! at April 01, 2013 11:24 PM (ULH4o)

380 Hot-lanta is Detroit. With a better PR dept., to the rest of us in GA.

There's parts of Atlanta that look like Beirut in the 80's. Bombing it would just shift the rubble around.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 11:31 PM (/gHaE)

381 Fresh early morning thread up.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 11:55 PM (/gHaE)

382 #357

Every DVD burner ever made had dual-layer capability, though some needed firmware updates to get it working right. But it was always part of the spec, just as dual-layer playback is part of the original DVD spec and some of the early players couldn't do it smoothly. Terminator 2 was the big test item for a long time until dual-layer titles became common.

Re-writable optical discs have been a non-starter. The WORM (write once, read many) disc are just too cheap to bother with anything else.

The dual-layer discs can be had for cheap nowadays if you keep an eye out. A while back Frys had spindles of 50 for $10. It took a few years but good sales turn up regularly now. It's the next best thing to burning Blu-rays if you need to have them accessible by other people who are unlikely to have BD-ROM reading ability.

Posted by: epobirs at April 02, 2013 01:00 AM (kcfmt)

383 Filthy Volunteer Swine!!! Give us our water back you gravy sucking pigs!! You already have plenty since your personal hygene does not require bathing. You suck down moonshine so no need to drink it and nothing grows there except weeds and your skinny ass cows can eat that. The last I heard making crystal meth is the only industry and once again no water is needed. Surrender the H20 and we will let you live in peace under our boot heels. Once the first shot is fire it is all El DegÃ¼ello baby!!!!

Posted by: nuclearjim at April 02, 2013 02:44 AM (AmnDH)

384 CBD @ 5-
No, it wasn't settled. Some of us see it like the Korean War. Not exactly over. As far as the history goes, the War Between The States history was written by the yankees in Washington City. The occupation of Japan was more benevolent and merciful than 'reconstruction' was. Most Americans do not know, nor do they care about, the facts of the War Between The States, as evidenced last week by the North Carolina flag fiasco.

Posted by: EROWMER at April 02, 2013 07:16 AM (kxlCQ)

385 An early definition of a Texan was a man who "rides like a Mexican, shoots like a Tennessean, and fights like a Commanche."

One third of a Texan should be plenty to handle Georgia.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 02, 2013 08:11 AM (ah11h)

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