Ace of Spades HQ

May 20, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (5-20-2013)
— Maetenloch

Bookworm: The IRS Scandal is the Worst Political Scandal in American History

And she makes a good case that it is. I can't think of any other scandal where the government actually engaged in widespread extra-legal stifling of dissent on ideological grounds.

Ignore all that. The absolute worst scandal that's emerged lately, and the worst administration scandal in American history is the IRS scandal. Why? Because you, the People, became the targets of a comprehensive federal government effort to stifle dissent, one made using the government's overwhelming and disproportionate policing and taxing powers.
All of the other scandals, going back to Andrew Johnson's post-Civil War scandals, Warren G. Harding's 1920s Teapot Dome scandal, Nixon's Watergate, Reagan's Iran-Contra, and Clinton's Oval Office sexcapades have actually been narrowly focused acts of cronyism, garden-variety political chicanery, or personal failings. It's been insider stuff.
The IRS scandal, by contrast, is a direct attack on the American people. Right now, Progressives throughout America are pretending that this scandal doesn't matter: "Obama wasn't involved." "Tea Partiers had it coming because they're all corrupt." "Obama would have won the election anyway." "It was just a coincidence that the only groups that had their applications scrutinized, sometimes for years, were politically conservative. It means nothing that, when one group changed its name to sound Progressive, its application was approved in only three weeks." "This is just a bureaucratic snafu." "It's a few rogue agents in Ohio."

And whenever you see illegal thuggery, be sure and look for the union label. No doubt the NTEU's 94% donation rate to Democrats is completely irrelevant to how they would treat conservatives as IRS employees.

Or maybe not. And clearly they're not willing to go after these known tax scofflaws.

So if the president and the NTEU are colluding to punish their enemies, do we have any recourse at all?

Don't Poke the Bear

And as DC law firm Patton Boggs is learning you can only file bogus environmental lawsuits against Chevron on your own initiative so many times before the bear notices.

Since late 2010, Washington, D.C. law firm Patton Boggs has been poking a sleeping tiger. It has filed three peculiar federal lawsuits - in its own name, not on behalf of any client - against Chevron, the third-largest corporation in the United States. These cases have fared poorly; two were quickly dismissed, and a federal magistrate judge recommended tossing the third in March.

On Friday, the tiger awoke. Chevron (CVX) sought a federal judge's permission to bring counterclaims against the 455-lawyer firm for alleged fraud and deceit for its conduct in representing the Amazon Defense Front, which obtained a $19 billion environmental judgment against the oil giant in Lago Agrio, Ecuador, in February 2011. Chevron also seeks to charge the firm with "malicious prosecution" for having pursued its three lawsuits in bad faith. Chevron seeks to hold the law firm liable for any damages Chevron suffers from the Front's allegedly fraud-infested litigation, plus punitive and treble damages.

The Wit and Wisdom of Nancy Pelosi

Just remember that for four years she was Speaker of the House and only a VP away from becoming President.

. Unemployment benefits are the best form of economic development.
. The IRS admission it illegally targeted conservative groups is the fault of the Supreme Court.
. We have to pass the bill (ObamaCare) to see what's in it.
. Every week we don't pass a Stimulus package, 500 million Americans lose their jobs.
. I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels.
. We don't have a spending problem.
. The CIA misleads us all the time.
. Enforcing immigration laws is un-American.

To Ask the Question Is To Answer It

Charles C. W. Cooke wonders why those who freaked out about the PATRIOT Act and how it might lead to people's library records being seized aren't so concerned about the IRS asking conservative groups to hand over their Facebook posts and a list of books they were reading. Or for records of conversations they had or their positions on issues. Shouldn't the ACLU be as up in arms about the IRS's intrusion into people's privacy as they were about Homeland Security looking at suspected terrorist's use of library computers?

The Utter Shamelessness of Candy Crowley

She's back to claiming that Obama was late in calling the Benghazi attacks terrorism - just like she claimed before the debates.

But in fact, Crowley's own news agency, CNN, had reported that Obama called the attacks at Benghazi terrorism "for the first time" only on September 20, nine days after the attacks.
Crowley herself also reported that the President was recalcitrant in calling it terrorism. As it happens her inexplicable and unwarranted support of Obama on the debate stage contradicted her own reporting on Benghazi.

In September, only a few weeks before the debate, Crowley had said on CNN that Obama took 17 days to give a "sort of definitive statement" that terrorists orchestrated the attacks.
By February of 2013, and conveniently after the election, the co-chair of the Commission on Presidential Debates, Frank Fahrenkopf, admitted that Crowley was simply wrong about her assertion that Obama called the attacks an act of terror.

In even a moderately just world she would be shunned by every decent journalist in the field.

Umbrellagate: The Early Years

The World's Least and Most Racially Tolerant Countries

Anglo and Latin countries are the most tolerant - and India, Jordan, Bangladesh and Hong Kong are the least.

Remember when Gandhi was asked what he thought about Western civilization, and he snarkily replied that it would be a good idea? Back atcha, Mohandas.

Yeah Gandhi was great at witty snark - building an actual working multi-racial tolerant society not so much.

John Merritt, Wood Worker

This is what you can achieve when you spend 50 years practicing your craft.

Know Your Enemy Part VIII: The Gingeress

Know their forms and be able to recognize their tricks. Because everything you love in life could be used as a lure for your soul.

The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.

And my twitter thang.

Tonight's post brought to you by Moonlighting:

Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp LLC. Please e-mail overnight open thread tips to maetenloch at gmail. Otherwise send tips to Ace.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 05:03 PM | Comments (795)
Post contains 1060 words, total size 13 kb.

1 Good evening, all!

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 20, 2013 05:04 PM (uL0u2)

2 51 dead in OKC. Just updated on KOTV Tulsa.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at May 20, 2013 05:05 PM (kXoT0)

3 And I'm wondering again for anyone that cares to answer, how does any conservative American ever feel in any of their future dealing with the IRS that they are not being targeted?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 20, 2013 05:06 PM (AC0lD)

4 Hey, wingnuts! Us fifty-two percenters don't agree at all with all that "you, We The People" stuff. The IRS was stifling the true nastiness that is the Tea Party! And that's a good thing. Or so they will keep saying.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at May 20, 2013 05:07 PM (PH+2B)

5 Can we drop these silly accusations against President Obama because the people of Oklahoma need his help. What's more important then the children in Oklahoma??????

Posted by: Tammy Bernstien from Maryland at May 20, 2013 05:07 PM (3Z1wn)

6 Know their forms and be able to recognize their tricks. Because everything you love in life could be used as a lure for your soul.

Oh pish posh, it's not *everything*. Just. Okay, everything.

brb ordering more bell jars

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at May 20, 2013 05:07 PM (Gk3SS)

7 An ONT at 9:00? Someone is going out tonight.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 20, 2013 05:09 PM (wR+pz)

8 The President of the United States believes that 1/3 of the population are his personal and political enemies and must be neutralized.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 20, 2013 05:09 PM (bIP8g)

9 OT

Red Cross already called for money

International Red Cross just honored some Pali terrorists 8 days ago, planting trees in the PA on behalf of "veteran prisoners" (Palis who are in jail for killing Israelis)

any OK moron know of any good organizations to send some cash to?

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 05:10 PM (nH8jP)

10 Nobody ever says hi Andrew.

Posted by: mark in sandy ut at May 20, 2013 05:10 PM (xGX1p)

11 Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 09:10 PM (nH8jP) Salvation Army, Samaritan's Purse.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 20, 2013 05:11 PM (uL0u2)

12 Candy Crowley is a lying, obese leftard cow.

Take that to the bank.

Posted by: Michael Moore at May 20, 2013 05:11 PM (A5Abh)

13 Salvation Army, Samaritan's Purse. Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 20, 2013 09:11 PM (uL0u2)

Wasn't Samaritan's Purse on the IRS Enemies List?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at May 20, 2013 05:11 PM (Gk3SS)

14 I don't know that it's a scandal (although certainly it should've been), but the only thing bigger than this is the suppresion of political dissidents during WWI. Read, e.g., "The Making of a Radical" by Scott Nearing. The utter abuse of power by Woodrow Wilson has been documented in such books as "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg. Nearing's book, however, is not only first-person, but no-one would ever mistake Nearing for a man of the Right.

Posted by: Stephen at May 20, 2013 05:12 PM (sq9q3)

15 Oh, we have recourse. It's just not easy to do it in an orderly fashion, and far too painful to do it in a disorderly fashion. Hopefully some mofos will step up to the plate, otherwise we'll be left with only one of those options. http://preview.tinyurl.com/qyluapf The bureaucracy is out of control and must be brought to heel *now*, or we will lose the country, *all of us*.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:13 PM (qyfb5)

16 Umbrellagate, the predecessor. Well, it was Jerry Ford. That poor fellow couldn't chew gum and walk down a flight of stairs at the same time. He was the non threatening innocent man appointed to heal the wounds left by that evil Nixon, and along with the rest of the GOP was absolutely dazzled by the smile of Jimmy Carter. Those pearly whites were blinding.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 20, 2013 05:14 PM (bIP8g)

17 Wasn't Samaritan's Purse on the IRS Enemies List? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at May 20, 2013 09:11 PM (Gk3SS) Yep, because it's Franklin Graham's organization.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 20, 2013 05:14 PM (uL0u2)

18 Tea Party is marching tomorrow all over the country. Buck Ofama!

Posted by: jmel at May 20, 2013 05:14 PM (9tSXa)

19 The Tea Pot Dome scandal isn't even that big of a scandal. It's actually standard operating procedure in our modern government. Some people in government essentially sold a oil contract to a company in return for a kick back. That probably happens daily now.

Posted by: Ben at May 20, 2013 05:15 PM (xTHBC)

20 ONT? I haven't even had dinner yet.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2013 05:15 PM (sdi6R)

21 14 I don't know that it's a scandal (although certainly it should've been), but the only thing bigger than this is thesuppresion of political dissidents during WWI. Read, e.g., "The Making of a Radical" by Scott Nearing. The utter abuse of power by Woodrow Wilson has been documented in such books as "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg.Nearing's book, however, is not only first-person, but no-one would ever mistake Nearing for a man of the Right.
Posted by: Stephen at May 20, 2013 09:12 PM (sq9q3)

Yeah Wilson's actions may come close. But the sheer scale and clearly illegal actions of the IRS scandal still set it apart.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 20, 2013 05:16 PM (pAlYe)

22 Well Dos Passos, basically described in fiction in the USA trilogy, what Wilson was about.

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 20, 2013 05:16 PM (Jsiw/)

23 Samartin's Purse is good charity

Posted by: mark in sandy ut at May 20, 2013 05:16 PM (xGX1p)

24 Everyone knows that eating all natural ginger is important for your health. Choose fresh young ginger, with tight skin and no blemishes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 05:17 PM (lr3d7)

25 how does any conservative American ever feel in any of their future dealing with the IRS that they are not being targeted?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel

Well, you can't. Whatever trust once was there is gone.

Realistically, the American public should not have trusted such an organization.

At this point, the only question is whether or not there are enough 'conservatives' who want to change our course from its current direction.

Posted by: Pres. Bystander [/i] [/b] at May 20, 2013 05:17 PM (dwArK)

26 18 Tea Party is marching tomorrow all over the country. Buck Ofama! Posted by: jmel at May 20, 2013 09:14 PM (9tSXa) Heartless tea-baggers won't give it a rest even when tragedy strikes. Anyone a gambler

Posted by: RWC at May 20, 2013 05:17 PM (Wl/Ht)

27 Thoughts and prayers for OK. A somber good evening to the Horde.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 20, 2013 05:18 PM (NEIxp)

28 9 OT
Red Cross already called for money
International Red Cross just honored some Pali terrorists 8 days ago, planting trees in the PA on behalf of "veteran prisoners" (Palis who are in jail for killing Israelis)
any OK moron know of any good organizations to send some cash to?
Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 09:10 PM (nH8jP)

I believe the American Red Cross and the IRC are separate organizations.

Still the ARC is awfully bureaucratic compared to some other organizations which have a much lower overhead.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 20, 2013 05:18 PM (pAlYe)

29 24 Everyone knows that eating all natural ginger is important for your health. Choose fresh young ginger, with tight skin and no blemishes. Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 09:17 PM (lr3d7) I'll take double entendres for $1000, Alex!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 20, 2013 05:19 PM (NEIxp)

30 Listening to the TV the last several hours. Nothing about Oklahoma. NOTHING! No Breaking News, no Special Report with the ominous bumper music. Zip.

Posted by: Marge at May 20, 2013 05:19 PM (OT0ZA)

31 You should see what I can do carving a hobo's spine. I'd show you but the wife is wearing it to her bridge game.

Posted by: John Merritt at May 20, 2013 05:19 PM (Hx2XA)

32 30 Listening to the TV the last several hours. Nothing about Oklahoma. NOTHING! No Breaking News, no Special Report with the ominous bumper music. Zip. Posted by: Marge at May 20, 2013 09:19 PM (OT0ZA) They haven't found a way to blame Bush yet, so...

Posted by: Insomniac at May 20, 2013 05:20 PM (NEIxp)

33 I believe the American Red Cross and the IRC are separate organizations. Still the ARC is awfully bureaucratic compared to some other organizations which have a much lower overhead. *** The ARC is under the umbrella of the IRCC but operates pretty independently.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 20, 2013 05:20 PM (piMMO)

34 At this point, the only question is whether or not there are enough 'conservatives' who want to change our course from its current direction.

Posted by: Pres. Bystander at May 20, 2013 09:17 PM (dwArK)

Leaving us with the ever-present $64,000 question "How?"

Rebuilding seems easiest. There's a lot of rot...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 20, 2013 05:21 PM (AC0lD)

35 Early enough ONT that I can participate.

I don't know about that map of tolerance, I always thought Israel to be one of the most tolerant countries in the history of the Earth. At least restrained.

And good for Chevron.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2013 05:22 PM (jKWYf)

I'll take double entendres for $1000, Alex!

Beware of fake ginger, made by the addition of artificial colors and indicated by an unnatural color as well as a lack of the batshit craz- excuse me, spiciness of organic, 100% natural ginger.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 05:22 PM (lr3d7)

37 I have a very rare blood type. About a year ago the Red Cross started calling, sometimes several times a week, wanting me to donate. Sorry, you stalk me over the phone and I'll give my blood to another organization.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 20, 2013 05:22 PM (uL0u2)

38 30 Listening to the TV the last several hours. Nothing about Oklahoma. NOTHING! No Breaking News, no Special Report with the ominous bumper music. Zip.

Posted by: Marge at May 20, 2013 09:19 PM (OT0ZA)

You mean network news?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:23 PM (X6akg)

39 Yeah, the 1985 Cybill Shepherd was pretty smok'n.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 05:23 PM (Fz2C7)

40 Doh! I always get moonlighting and remington Steele confused. Who is the chick in remington Steele?

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:24 PM (qPCAa)

I think when Red Cross raise money for a disaster they do not promise it will go to that disaster. They just use it to raise money.

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 05:24 PM (nH8jP)

42 A picture is worth a thousand words. Teacher and child reunite after horrific OK tornado

http://tinyurl.com/m4lnor7

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:24 PM (X6akg)

43 Yes, it's a mix of truly hot, and average,

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 20, 2013 05:24 PM (Jsiw/)

44 Evening all. Sad night. Just got an email from Samaritan's Purse. They are already on it. Gotta love those Graham boys. I do, anyway.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 05:24 PM (4Mv1T)

45 You know, I agree with Bookworm's view on the IRS Scandal. I think she's got it exactly right. However, there is a Salon article which has been going around the Lib circles about how Bush used the IRS to target his enemies as well. According to the Salon article, Bush targeted the NAACP and a couple others. I vaguely remember this. What do you guys know about it? http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_targeted_liberals/

Posted by: Pastorius at May 20, 2013 05:24 PM (gMAUH)

46 I remember the ARC after 9/11. They were pathetic and the overhead is shameful. Beck has a good charity, but I can't remember the name.

Posted by: Ronster at May 20, 2013 05:25 PM (sa3Ro)

47 Beck has a good charity, but I can't remember the name. Posted by: Ronster at May 20, 2013 09:25 PM (sa3Ro) Mercury One, or something like that

Posted by: Jake in ID at May 20, 2013 05:26 PM (zzeVM)

48 Stephanie Zimbalest,

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 20, 2013 05:26 PM (Jsiw/)

49 Don't know if anyone has said this already, but the Lefties seem to be approving of the HUAC and McCarthy, no? And Japanese internments. Because the government can do whatever it wants when whomever they're doing it to are bad and rar and stuff.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at May 20, 2013 05:27 PM (72afg)

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 09:24 PM (qPCAa)

Stephanie Zimbalist? Off the top of my head....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 20, 2013 05:27 PM (AC0lD)

51
NAACP? blah blah blah, they have been corrupt since inception. The difference of course is a calculated ongoing widespread operation against the totality of the political opposition.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2013 05:27 PM (jKWYf)

52 Because everything you love in life could be used as a lure for your soul.

Who wants pie?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 20, 2013 05:27 PM (hO8IJ)

Beck has a good charity, but I can't remember the name.

Glenn Beck's Society for the Adoption of Homeless Gold?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 05:28 PM (lr3d7)

54 Stephanie Zimbalist, pretty much a non-talent with average looks, but nepotism rules in Hollywood.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 05:28 PM (Fz2C7)

55 45 You know, I agree with Bookworm's view on the IRS Scandal. I think she's got it exactly right.
However, there is a Salon article which has been going around the Lib circles about how Bush used the IRS to target his enemies as well.
According to the Salon article, Bush targeted the NAACP and a couple others.
I vaguely remember this. What do you guys know about it?
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_targeted_liberals/
Posted by: Pastorius at May 20, 2013 09:24 PM (gMAUH)

Different type of tax-exempt organizations with much stricter no-politics rules. Show me another 300 cases just like these and I'll take it seriously.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 20, 2013 05:28 PM (pAlYe)

56 Here's the Samaritan's Purse donation page:

http://tinyurl.com/ka29pux

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:29 PM (X6akg)

57 @9 any OK moron know of any good organizations to send some cash to?

***
Salvation Army
Team Rubicon
Mercury One
Samaritan's Purse

To make $10.00 donations via text:
Text: STORM to 80888 for Salvation Army
Text FOOD to 32333 for Reg. Food Bank (local food bank)

Posted by: smc1225 at May 20, 2013 05:29 PM (Kw6aj)

58 I think when Red Cross raise money for a disaster they do not promise it will go to that disaster. They just use it to raise money. United Way does that, too.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at May 20, 2013 05:29 PM (JQuNB)

59 That pelosi list doesn't even address her many utterly asisine statements about catholic teachings.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:29 PM (qPCAa)

Ignore all that. The absolute worst scandal that's emerged lately, and the worst administration scandal in American history is the IRS scandal. Why? Because you, the People, became the targets of a comprehensive federal government effort to stifle dissent, one made using the government's overwhelming and disproportionate policing and taxing powers.

There is no argument against that. There is only lies.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 20, 2013 05:29 PM (kNVRv)

61 We're in much deeper trouble than many understand. Here's why, and it's a simple matter of political physics, of the play of forces: the Right has no one with the ability to comprehend Obama and the ruthless determination to stop Obama equal to Obama's ability and ruthless determination to do what he is doing. We lose.

Posted by: rrpjr at May 20, 2013 05:29 PM (9e/l5)

62 Liberals always get offended at terms like "Heartland". They didn't used to.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 05:30 PM (ZPrif)

63 MÃ¦tenloch, Right. The sheer number of case involved in this scandal ought to be enough to convince anyone. But, you know, it's Liberals. And, i don't know how to respond to this accusation. It seems like they're right. But I don't know that much about the law on 501C's.

Posted by: Pastorius at May 20, 2013 05:31 PM (gMAUH)

64 Wow Stephanie zimbalist. Thanks horde. My brain had merged the two and put Cybil Shepard on both shows. Or I thought maybe it was Elizabeth dennehy.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:32 PM (qPCAa)

65 Problem is American politics is no longer about ideology and ideas. Best predictor of voting behavior is now race and ethnicity. I can't convince you with a policy argument if you are voting for your tribe no matter what I saw.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 05:32 PM (ZPrif)

66 They didn't have to give up membership lists, reading lists, male promises not to protest, contents of prayers, instructional materials, did they.

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 20, 2013 05:33 PM (Jsiw/)

67 I never cared for Moonlighting, not a fan of the rapid-fire, ping-pongy back-and-forth witty (allegedly) banter. Willis was the only one with comedic timing, Shepherd as funny as a colon polyp. Plus they did that weird thing to the lens when she was on camera ( I think they put Vaseline on the camera lens). This effect was parodied quite well on SNL's goof of Liz Taylor's perfume commercial where the image was altered you could only barely make out an outline of 'Liz'. Remington Steele gal was Stefanie Zimbalist, who was superior to Cybil in every way.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 05:33 PM (XvrTA)

68 53 Beck has a good charity, but I can't remember the name. Glenn Beck's Society for the Adoption of Homeless Gold? Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 09:28 PM (lr3d7) ---- Mercury One. Learned that here today. Thx horde.

Posted by: RWC at May 20, 2013 05:33 PM (Wl/Ht)

69 >Who wants pie? I've read Thinner; this gambit will not work on me,

Posted by: Thrawn at May 20, 2013 05:33 PM (JqnAE)

70 "...So if the president and the NTEU are colluding to punish their enemies, do we have any recourse at all?" Yes. And it's coming to that with each passing day. On that cheerful not, goodnight all...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2013 05:34 PM (+98Gb)

71 The Salvation Army has a reputation for having very low overhead.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2013 05:34 PM (sdi6R)

72 I can't convince you with a policy argument if you are voting for your tribe no matter what I saw. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 09:32 PM (ZPrif) Some of the stuff I've read about what happens when America hits 49% white are hair raising and facinationg at the same time

Posted by: Jake in ID at May 20, 2013 05:35 PM (zzeVM)

The Wit of Nancy Pelosi?

***

She should take heart- she's halfway there.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 20, 2013 05:35 PM (pxDth)

74 "Remington Steele gal was Stefanie Zimbalist, who was superior to Cybil in every way."

Then why does only Cybill still have a career?

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 05:35 PM (Fz2C7)

75

From The Daily Caller :

Democratic Senator uses Okla. tornado for anti-GOP rant over global warminghttp://tinyurl.com/mwlzcmy

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 20, 2013 05:35 PM (IknLN)

76 Unbelievable pic of Plaza Towers elementary school....

http://tinyurl.com/67hkwze

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:35 PM (X6akg)

77 According to the Salon article, Bush targeted the NAACP and a couple others. I vaguely remember this. What do you guys know about it?

Posted by: Pastorius

Did any of the Bush directors admit on tape to selectively targeting leftie groups?

Nope.

Was there a set of official documents describing the targeting by the Bush IRS?

Nope.

Was there a demonstrable pattern and practice with in the Bush administration of targeting liberal groups for extra scrutiny?

Nope.

They have anecdotes. We have admissions and facts.

Further, the 'BOOOSH did it' claim is invidious comparison, the standard logical fallacy of the Left.

What is the standard? That of their worst enemy, Bush? If so, they admit the Obama administration is guilty of dangerous and unconstitutional practices because that is exactly the charge they leveled at Bush routinely.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 20, 2013 05:36 PM (dwArK)

Then why does only Cybill still have a career?

Ok, she was superior to Cybil in every way but one...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 05:36 PM (lr3d7)

79 Tami, dear God.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:37 PM (qPCAa)

80 Tami, your pic link didn't work

Posted by: Yip at May 20, 2013 05:37 PM (/jHWN)

81 It's not covered in the ONT, but here's another question that answers itself- will those who were so supportive of Eric Lichtblau and James Risen when they spilled the beans on the classified SWIFT program mount the same defense of James Rosen and the other FOX reporters? Bush never laid a hand on the NYT.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 20, 2013 05:37 PM (Dt+R8)

82 So anyone remember Cybill Shepherd's first big movie hit?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 05:37 PM (4Mv1T)

83 Sorry yip....try this....it's on twitter so....

http://tinyurl.com/n3z5tzw

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:38 PM (X6akg)

84 Thanks weft.

Posted by: Pastorius at May 20, 2013 05:38 PM (gMAUH)

85 Yes, if it was wrong when bush did it why is it not wrong that Obama's doing it?

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:39 PM (qPCAa)

86 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 20, 2013 05:39 PM (JMmQ9)

87 any OK moron know of any good organizations to send some cash to?

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 09:10 PM (nH8jP)

Catholic Charities is almost always the first on the ground in any situation. They are good for about 98% of donations getting to victims.

Posted by: tcn at May 20, 2013 05:39 PM (VLG62)

88 Speaking of red heads, Alicia Witt, who was in that Sybill show,

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 20, 2013 05:39 PM (Jsiw/)

89 You want to see some good carving google "David Esterly". Probably the greatest living wood carver. His non-fiction book "The Lost Carving" was also excellent.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at May 20, 2013 05:39 PM (q177U)

90 that one worked. Wow. incredible devastation .

Posted by: Yip at May 20, 2013 05:39 PM (/jHWN)

91 I think because Peter Bogdanovich pulled strings for her.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 05:39 PM (XvrTA)

92 Totally unrelated and light-hearted -- WWE now has a WWE app where they show videos during commercial breaks. Sometimes interviews, backstage segments. Other times it's the in-ring action going on during commercial. They've even started showing stuff during the matches, so there's two potential things to watch at once. It's the "second screen experience", you're supposed to watch it on your phone or tablet. I wonder what the advertisers think about WWE telling their viewers to ignore commercials and watch some WWE video during the commercial break. Oh, and Mr. Perfect's son debuted tonight -- Curtis Axel. Well, redebuted. They tried him with a different name a few years ago but that didn't work. I'm watching it to avoid watching the news about OK.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 05:39 PM (ZPrif)

Maet, I saw what you did with those two pics, but you left off the captions.

The one of Nazi Pelousi says, "Kagan's thingy is this long."

Kool-Aid Crowley's says, "No, it's this long."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 20, 2013 05:39 PM (+z4pE)

94 @SalvationArmyUSA.org or text "STORM" to 80888 2 make $10 donation

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:39 PM (X6akg)

Beck said 100% of the donations given for the OK tornado victims will go to those folks. All of it.

After Hurricane Sandy, the Mercury One trucks were the first on the scene, and even that took a couple days. The Red Cross didn't show up until weeks after and were called "useless" by those interviewed.

http://www.mercuryone.org/

Posted by: RushBabe at May 20, 2013 05:40 PM (qkZxk)

96 I've read Thinner; this gambit will not work on me, . Posted by: Thrawn at May 20, 2013 09:33 PM (JqnAE) Snuck a copy of that book from my parents' shelves and read it when I was 11. Still remember it. Still creeped out by it. I won't sleep well tonight. Thank you SO much.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at May 20, 2013 05:40 PM (fzFF6)

97 Ghandi.... utter failure at best, fraud at worst.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 05:40 PM (GEICT)

98 Hello, Horde. Donations for Moore, OK still coming in... http://twitpic.com/cs2886

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 20, 2013 05:41 PM (5J54Q)

99 So anyone remember Cybill Shepherd's first big movie hit?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 09:37 PM (4Mv1T)

Very fondly.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at May 20, 2013 05:41 PM (29vnO)

100 FFS.....the in laws are sitting here dissecting and arguing about how many singers each judge has left on the Voice. *sobs silently*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 05:41 PM (GEICT)

101 Speaking of red heads, Alicia Witt, who was in that Sybill show, Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 20, 2013 09:39 PM (Jsiw/) now you're talkin'

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 05:41 PM (XvrTA)

102

I've never given a dime to the Red Cross, in honor of my father. There he was in Germany in WWII, earning a Presidential Citation for Remagen, in the field for weeks on end. Finally he found himself at a base camp where there was a Red Cross girl with coffee and donuts. He said it looked and smelled wonderful. Then the girl told him it would be 10 cents for coffee and 5 cents for a donut.

In a war zone. With soldiers like my dad just coming in from the front, they wanted money.

My parents were very charitable, but in my father's house not one red cent was ever given to the Red Cross. He passed years ago, but I continue the loathing on his behalf.

Posted by: ajgrennanmsc@gmail.com at May 20, 2013 05:41 PM (kQUFE)

103 I feel the winds of a Zimbalist/Shepherd war rustling. But I'll be as neutral as Switzerland, I'll go with Stephanie Kramer.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 05:41 PM (Fz2C7)

104 Last Picture Show? Somebody was nude on a diving board in that and made a great impression on this 16 year old.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 20, 2013 05:41 PM (l3vZN)

105 Posted by: RushBabe at May 20, 2013 09:40 PM (qkZxk) Good to know. Thank you. I'm hearing calls for assistance from them here in DFW and was debating moving out of my comfort zone and volunteering.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at May 20, 2013 05:42 PM (fzFF6)

106

the map of tolerance?

Created by World Values Survey, a non profit out of U MI, Harvard, Stockholm, Germany, Madrid. Their conference last March was in Doha Qatar.

They will not say who funds them. hmmm

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 05:42 PM (nH8jP)

107 75

From The Daily Caller :

Democratic Senator uses Okla. tornado for anti-GOP rant over global warminghttp://tinyurl.com/mwlzcmy
--------------

That was predictable. We'll hear more.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 20, 2013 05:42 PM (aDwsi)

108 83 Sorry yip....try this....it's on twitter so.... http://tinyurl.com/n3z5tzw Posted by: Tami at May 20, 2013 09:38 PM (X6akg) Wow. Your first link took me to a list of other pics of tornado destruction. That was bad enough. The poor children.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:42 PM (qPCAa)

109 59 That pelosi list doesn't even address her many utterly asisine statements about catholic teachings.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 09:29 PM (qPCAa)

That's because it has become clear that teachings only work for those who can be taught, and that ain't her.

She should get into heaven on the "insurmountable ignorance" exception.

Posted by: tcn at May 20, 2013 05:43 PM (VLG62)

110 After Hurricane Sandy, the Mercury One trucks were the first on the scene, and even that tooka couple days. The Red Cross didn't show up until weeks after and were called "useless" by those interviewed. *** Kirstie Alley also arranged to fill up several trucks for Sandy. They were there almost immediately.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 20, 2013 05:43 PM (piMMO)

111 Ghandi - of course - was an Islamic lawyer. Most people mistakingly assume that he was Hindu - but no.

Finding out that he was Islamic put his advice to the Jews that they go quietly into the gas chamber in a rather different light doesn't it.

Posted by: [/i]An Observation at May 20, 2013 05:43 PM (ylhEn)

112 100 FFS.....the in laws are sitting here dissecting and arguing about how many singers each judge has left on the Voice. *sobs silently* Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 09:41 PM (GEICT) How's your liver holding up, BC?

Posted by: RWC at May 20, 2013 05:43 PM (Wl/Ht)

113 >>>24 Everyone knows that eating all natural ginger is important for your health. Choose fresh young ginger, with tight skin and no blemishes. Ginger is really only good as a palate cleanser.

Posted by: wooga at May 20, 2013 05:44 PM (llPmN)

114 According to the Salon article, Bush targeted the NAACP and a couple others. I vaguely remember this. What do you guys know about it?

Posted by: Pastorius

Additionally,

The Dem's controlled Congress for 2 years of the Bush admin.

Where were the IG reports?

Where were the committees?

Where were the kind of Special Investigations that are about to fly up Obama's ass if the GOP gets their heads out of theirs?

They never happened because the charges that the Bush selectively interrogated leftie groups only fits one pattern, the pattern of the Democrats' slander of the Bush admin.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 20, 2013 05:44 PM (dwArK)

115 The Swedes made the map.

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 05:44 PM (Y993C)

116

Somebody was nude on a diving board in that and made a great impression on this 16 year old.

I think you're thinking of Phoebe Cates in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. She was topless, not all the way newd.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 20, 2013 05:45 PM (qkZxk)

117 @lifechurchtv - OKC Church equip to give to those in need. http://bit.ly/l6J6Nq or text RELIEF & donation amount to 86613

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:45 PM (X6akg)

118 100 FFS.....the in laws are sitting here dissecting and arguing about how many singers each judge has left on the Voice. *sobs silently* Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 09:41 PM (GEICT) I'm laughing with you, not at you. At least you can post here.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:45 PM (qPCAa)

119 How's your liver holding up, BC? Posted by: RWC at May 20, 2013 09:43 PM (Wl/Ht) I'm sober. Work and family obligations.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 05:45 PM (GEICT)

120 Posted by: $%grennan&^%@gmail.com at May 20, 2013 09:41 PM (kQUFE)

Um. Just a tip. Put your email in the email field.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at May 20, 2013 05:45 PM (GRvW4)

121 May not be quite as many children deceased as first believed in elementary school, per Lance West @kfor; number holding at 7 so far.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 20, 2013 05:45 PM (ADnWI)

122 The increasing diversity of America is the main reason all the measures of corruption are rising. Diversity is great for interesting music and food. Not so good for honest government. Reality is ethnic diversity is an excellent predictor for corruption, bribery, govt abuse, etc, etc. The most honest countries with the least corruption are generally also the most ethnically homogenous.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 05:45 PM (ZPrif)

123 118 100 FFS.....the in laws are sitting here dissecting and arguing about how many singers each judge has left on the Voice.

*sobs silently*
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 09:41 PM (GEICT)

I'm laughing with you, not at you.

At least you can post here.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 09:45 PM (qPCAa)

Not me....I'm laughing AT him....pointing too.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:46 PM (X6akg)

124 I feel the winds of a Zimbalist/Shepherd war rustling. But I'll be as neutral as Switzerland, I'll go with Stephanie Kramer. Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 09:41 PM (Fz2C7) there's always Markie Post aka 'The Peacemaker'

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 05:46 PM (XvrTA)

125 PS ... Cobs, can you help this guy or gal out? Pointing up at my last comment.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at May 20, 2013 05:46 PM (GRvW4)

126 That's because it has become clear that teachings only work for those who can be taught, and that ain't her. She should get into heaven on the "insurmountable ignorance" exception. Posted by: tcn at May 20, 2013 09:43 PM (VLG62) Lol!

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:46 PM (qPCAa)

127 Amazing that I have not heard of Mercury One before today. Well, no, I guess it isn't.

Posted by: RWC at May 20, 2013 05:47 PM (Wl/Ht)

128

Thoughts and prayers for OK

57 confirmed dead so far.

I'd really like to make fun of the left's penchant for making fun of the deaths of others....but right now, I can't even conceive of how demented a mind has to be to do this. To think that there are people in this country cheering this devastation is horrifying.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 20, 2013 05:47 PM (qoQi/)

129 Not me....I'm laughing AT him....pointing too. Posted by: Tami at May 20, 2013 09:46 PM (X6akg) Your love, I feels it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 05:47 PM (GEICT)

130 An Observation, Do you have any evidence that Gandhi was a Muslim? I've never seen that claimed anywhere before. I know he worked for Muslims while in South Africa. And, I hate Gandhi, so I'd love to have more ammunition on the guy.

Posted by: Pastorius at May 20, 2013 05:47 PM (gMAUH)

131 Haha Cochran

Posted by: phoenixgirl, commenter at the best conservative blog at May 20, 2013 05:48 PM (+H0h7)

132

Ginger is really only good as a palate cleanser.

Useful between ex-wives.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 05:48 PM (lr3d7)

133 Gandhi was a hindu.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 05:48 PM (ZPrif)

134 there's always Markie Post aka 'The Peacemaker'

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 09:46 PM (XvrTA)

Clinton groupie. Who knows what STDs she carries.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at May 20, 2013 05:48 PM (29vnO)

135 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 09:47 PM (GEICT)

H8r. Don't you know The Voice is important television?

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at May 20, 2013 05:48 PM (GRvW4)

136

120: Eastvalleyphx. thank you! I'm an idiot.

I'm probably now on some hobo spam list.

Worse: the IRS' radar. . . .

Shit.

Can someone clean up after me?

Posted by: biblio at May 20, 2013 05:48 PM (kQUFE)

137 Cybil was nekkid in Last Picture, in B&W.

Posted by: hornus at May 20, 2013 05:48 PM (4Qfnw)

138 Not me....I'm laughing AT him....pointing too. Posted by: Tami at May 20, 2013 09:46 PM (X6akg) Aren't you a ginger?

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:48 PM (qPCAa)

139 Salvation Army. They are always first on the scene, very efficient with $. As an aside, they also have a very organized network of amateur radio operators to establish communications, SATERN (Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network).

Count on The Red Cross to use this as a fund-raiser, and bureaucrats to claim that 'This is why we need big government.'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 05:49 PM (aDwsi)

140 I'm sober. Work and family obligations. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 09:45 PM (GEICT) Oh ok. In-laws DVRing DWTS for later or are they switching back and forth?

Posted by: RWC at May 20, 2013 05:49 PM (Wl/Ht)

141 133 Gandhi was a hindu. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 09:48 PM (ZPrif) No, he was a Jainist.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:49 PM (qPCAa)

142 Gandhi was a hindu.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 09:48 PM (ZPrif)

Next you'll be telling us that the Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at May 20, 2013 05:49 PM (29vnO)

143 Posted by: biblio at May 20, 2013 09:48 PM (kQUFE)

You weckum ... don't know if the cobs can help, but ...

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at May 20, 2013 05:49 PM (GRvW4)

144 111 Ghandi - of course - was an Islamic lawyer. Most people mistakingly assume that he was Hindu - but no.
Finding out that he was Islamic put his advice to the Jews that they go quietly into the gas chamber in a rather different light doesn't it.
Posted by: An Observation at May 20, 2013 09:43 PM (ylhEn)

Evidence please?

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 20, 2013 05:49 PM (pAlYe)

145 The Red Cross raped the victims of the OKC Bombing. Hoping generous Americans don't permit a repeat of that insult.

Posted by: EveR at May 20, 2013 05:50 PM (pPOhx)

146 Posted by: RushBabe at May 20, 2013 09:40 PM (qkZxk) Hey girl! I was a wee tot during hurricane Camille, and afterwards the Red Cross was charging 5 bucks for their damn coffee and doughnuts. In 1969! My Daddy 'bout got arrested over it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 05:50 PM (zrlmb)

147 there is no doubt this is the worst scandal in US history. not everyone realizes that yet, and others are trying to pass it off. when a regime wields the power of the federal government and focuses it on it's political enemies, well it doesn't get any bigger than that. there is no way to avoid a special prosecutor. many Republicans don't want to talk about impeachment, but how does it get any bigger than this? it's one off the only mechanisms we have to protect ourselves from a tyrannical regime.

Posted by: exceller at May 20, 2013 05:50 PM (Z7Znk)

148 I'm sober. Work and family obligations. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk

I'll have three or four on your behalf... I can't imagine your pain... heh

Posted by: Yip at May 20, 2013 05:50 PM (/jHWN)

149 Shepherd or Zimbalist? Where are the gingers at?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Glutton For Punishment at May 20, 2013 05:51 PM (5J54Q)

150

Amazing that I have not heard of Mercury One before today.

-----

Sure you have-- remember they kill OJ, but James Brolin survives and runs in during his own funeral.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 20, 2013 05:51 PM (hC80d)

151 No, Gandhi was a Hindu.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 05:52 PM (ZPrif)

152 The number 10 pic from the gingeress album can have my soul anytime she wants.

Posted by: eman at May 20, 2013 05:52 PM (SXsuy)

153 H8r. Don't you know The Voice is important television? Posted by: eastvalleyphx at May 20, 2013 09:48 PM (GRvW4) I don't even mind the Voice, I far prefer it to AI. But I don't wanna debate it. And I certainly don't wanna listen to other people debate it. And no, no DWTS. Thank the Good Lord.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 05:52 PM (GEICT)

154 He passed years ago, but I continue the loathing on his behalf.

That's righteous.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 20, 2013 05:52 PM (hO8IJ)

155
Your love, I feels it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 09:47 PM (GEICT)

I'm just kidding. If you were ever in the same room with my in-laws, you'd kill to only have to watch The Voice. Mine both take to you AT.THE.SAME.TIME. Always. You have to look back and forth to each one and nod like you know what they're talking about....and they're seldom both talking about the same subject. It's so fun.

But I do want to know how a guy known as 'The Hammer' watches that show?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:52 PM (X6akg)

156
Your love, I feels it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 09:47 PM (GEICT)

No....Sicilian.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:53 PM (X6akg)

157 @102
I've never given a dime to the Red Cross, in honor of my father. There he was in Germany in WWII, earning a Presidential Citation for Remagen, in the field for weeks on end. Finally he found himself at a base camp wherethere was a Red Cross girl with coffee and donuts. He said it looked and smelled wonderful. Then the girl told him it would be10 cents forcoffee and 5 cents for a donut.
In a war zone. With soldiers like my dad just coming in from the front, they wanted money.
My parents were very charitable, but in my father's house not one red cent was ever given to the Red Cross. He passed years ago, but I continue the loathing on his behalf.

Posted by: ajgrennanmsc@gmail.com at May 20, 2013 09:41 PM (kQUFE)

----

According to my grandfather & his brother, they did the same during the Great War to End All Wars

Posted by: mark E at May 20, 2013 05:53 PM (sThcQ)

158 Gandhi worked as a lawyer in South Africa for muslim Indian businessmen. This was before his political career.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 05:53 PM (ZPrif)

159 Clinton groupie. Who knows what STDs she carries. Posted by: somebody else, not me at May 20, 2013 09:48 PM (29vnO) True, but Shepard is tight with Gloria Allred - the lowest form of life on earth, just above the Gosnells

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 05:53 PM (XvrTA)

160 Ghandi was a Jainist. Which is more like a Theravada Buddhist than anything else. Jainists practice extreme non violence. They brush the ground in front of them so they don't step on insects.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:53 PM (qPCAa)

161

oops. found the funding on wiki

Each national team is responsible for its own expenses and most surveys are financed by local sources. However, central funding has been obtained in cases where local funding is not possible. Presently, the activities of the WVS Secretariat and WVS Executive Committee are funded by the Bank of Sweden Tercentenary Foundation. Other funding has been obtained from the U.S. National Science Foundation, the Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency (SIDA), the Volkswagen Foundation, the German Science Foundation (DFG) and the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 05:53 PM (nH8jP)

162 ooops....that response was for....Elizabethe.

Aren't you a ginger?

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 09:48 PM (qPCAa)

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:53 PM (X6akg)

163 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 09:41 PM (GEICT) I am not allowed to call my mama on Sunday evenings because...Celebrity Apprentice. And she didn't even tell me TEBOW was on it last night. I had to learn it from the intertubes, fer Gawd's sake.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 05:53 PM (zrlmb)

164 Faulting the Red Cross for having too much overhead isn't correct, they are very efficient, 92% goes back out the door. Salvation Army doesnt have to report their IRS form 990, so I cant say how good they are.

Fault them for not standing taller at ICRC meetings, or other political shit, but the local disaster guys, the military support, and blood bank are critical services.

Posted by: Jean at May 20, 2013 05:53 PM (CMlD4)

165

From wiki answers...for whatever it's worth...

Mahatma Gandhi, the proponent of civil disobedience, was born a Hindu in 1869 and practiced Hinduism all his life. He always believed in compassion, nonviolence, and the Golden Rule of "treat others as you want them to treat you." He believed strongly in the Hindu principle of ahimsa which means non - violence. Mahatma Gandhi has come to be known as the Father of India and a beacon of light in the last decades of British Colonial Rule, promoting non-violence, justice and harmony between people of all faiths all of which he learnt form the religion of Hinduism.

However, Gandhi once told "I am a Hindu, Muslim and Christian" as well. He was also influenced by Jainism.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 20, 2013 05:54 PM (AC0lD)

166 I don't know if this is blasphemy or not, but the Wendy girl was hot (still is) but dayum is she annoying.

Posted by: RWC at May 20, 2013 05:54 PM (Wl/Ht)

167 Speaking of tasty gingers... TAMMY!

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 05:54 PM (lr3d7)

168 Gandhi worked as a lawyer for Indian muslims in South Africa -- but he was a Hindu.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 05:55 PM (ZPrif)

169 82
The Last Picture Show

Posted by: mpfs, assault fishstick at May 20, 2013 05:55 PM (TCy/B)

170 I'm just kidding. If you were ever in the same room with my in-laws, you'd kill to only have to watch The Voice. Mine both take to you AT.THE.SAME.TIME. Always. You have to look back and forth to each one and nod like you know what they're talking about....and they're seldom both talking about the same subject. It's so fun. Tami do they test you later? My grandparents played dueling remotes. Usually a fight between air wolf and whatever sitcom ran at the same time.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:56 PM (qPCAa)

171 I am not allowed to call my mama on Sunday evenings because...Celebrity Apprentice. A Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 09:53 PM (zrlmb) It's the same with my Mom and Survivor. BTW...I'm not ~~stalking~~ following your from Twitter. It's just coincidence. Really.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread isn't very convincing at May 20, 2013 05:56 PM (5J54Q)

172 Hey Alex!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 05:56 PM (zrlmb)

173 I had to learn it from the intertubes, fer Gawd's sake. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 09:53 PM (zrlmb) I think he dropped 200k for Trace Adkins. (good part of the show is Trace treating Piers Morgan like the shit that he is.)

Posted by: RWC at May 20, 2013 05:56 PM (Wl/Ht)

174 The Gingers....24, 29, 32, 41. But I do want to know how a guy known as 'The Hammer' watches that show? Posted by: Tami at May 20, 2013 09:52 PM (X6akg) HA!!! Holy crap! I can't believe anyone remembers that. Yeah, I dunno. But he's totally into the singing shows.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 05:56 PM (GEICT)

175 How have you been, babe? How's Thor?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 05:56 PM (lr3d7)

176 What does it make me if I walk around my basement spraying insecticide to make sure I don't step on insects?

Posted by: Adam at May 20, 2013 05:57 PM (Aif/5)

177 ghandi was a weirdo perv

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 05:57 PM (nH8jP)

178 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 20, 2013 09:47 PM Appreciate the update, SW. I couldn't bear to go look for the news. I has a sad (or whatever the kids say these days)

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 20, 2013 05:57 PM (JMmQ9)

179 Dude wiki answers can blow me.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 05:57 PM (qPCAa)

180 Who else is going to protest tomorrow ?? . I've decided to go to Fort Worth. Our T.P. put out an all-hands on deck alert tonight.. and yes, they were targeted by the IRS. They put the questionnaire online and it's as bad as has been previously put out. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Yip at May 20, 2013 05:57 PM (/jHWN)

181 here's some Alicia Witt http://tinyurl.com/mda55nz for the gingerphiles

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 05:58 PM (XvrTA)

182 Tami do they test you later?

My grandparents played dueling remotes. Usually a fight between air wolf and whatever sitcom ran at the same time.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 09:56 PM (qPCAa)

I seriously doubt they remember what they're talking about....because they often repeat what they just told you. Did I say it's fun? Because it's so fun.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 05:58 PM (X6akg)

183 Oh hell yes, Capt, Survivor, how could I forget? Can't talk to Thor OR Mama on Weds nights! And stalk away!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 05:58 PM (zrlmb)

184 >>>What does it make me if I walk around my basement spraying insecticide to make sure I don't step on insects? Master of all you survey.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 05:58 PM (4Mv1T)

185 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 09:53 PM (zrlmb) Miss Tammy! How goes it? Thor? Timmy T??? Man, that's a tough choice. Tebow, but Trump. Yikes.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 05:58 PM (GEICT)

186 After these bastards used state tax officials to dig up information on private citizens in 2008, was it any shock that they used the IRS and the rest of the Federal govt as their hammer. The next time I hear one of these leftist fucknuts say that these dickweeds are just "speaking truth to power", I will kick them in their taints, and then explain to them that the US government is the most powerful organization in the history of planet Earth. For the federal government to take on Fox News or the Tea Party is like an infant taking on Andre the Giant.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at May 20, 2013 05:58 PM (BXLPR)

187 Let go of my love BC.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2013 05:59 PM (o24Kn)

188 yeah, Gandhi was a commie pedo who freed his people from British rule only to impoverish them with communism and use his fame to sleep with under-age girls in every illiterate peasant village.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 05:59 PM (ZPrif)

189

"Woodrow, quite a party"

Posted by: Augustus McCrea (aim low boys, they lookin up at snakebelly) at May 20, 2013 05:59 PM (uOxBm)

190 I am in CA, with Thor for a few days, so all is good, Alex! Oh, and stalking Capt and CoolCzech on Twitter, of course. And sweet Polli. Peetey, you here yet?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 06:00 PM (zrlmb)

191 " Then the girl told him it would be10 cents forcoffee and 5 cents for a donut."

This has been beat to death, those were war time regulations imposed by the Army on the Red Cross at the request of the allies. The reasons behind the rules are bizarre, but not due the Red Cross. Most of the guys expected free coffee, etc. because that's what the Red Cross distributed stateside, but once they got into the European theater they had to pay.

I have seen reports of both free and payment required from the Pacific, I suspect it was imposed when mixed with Commonwealth troops.

Posted by: Jean at May 20, 2013 06:00 PM (CMlD4)

192 122 The increasing diversity of America is the main reason all the measures of corruption are rising. Diversity is great for interesting music and food. Not so good for honest government.
Reality is ethnic diversity is an excellent predictor for corruption, bribery, govt abuse, etc, etc.
The most honest countries with the least corruption are generally also the most ethnically homogenous.
--------------------------

All very true. The 'Diversity is good' idiots always hint, if not out state, that one culture is as good (desirable) as another. It is taught in the schools (COEXIST!). I usually casually ask if they believe that applies to those countries where the culture is dominated by Islamic law.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:00 PM (aDwsi)

193

here's some Alicia Witt

That girl needs to be oiled up and gently spanked.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 06:00 PM (lr3d7)

194

What a sad depressing day. I can't think of those kids in that elementary school without crying. I pray that they find more alive through some miracle.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 06:00 PM (RZ8pf)

195 BC, who the hell would even notice Trump???

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 06:01 PM (zrlmb)

196 The most honest countries with the least corruption are generally also the most ethnically homogenous. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 09:45 PM (ZPrif) I'd disagree. The U.S. is one of the most diverse nations on the planet. Going with ethnicities, we've had a solid blend since before the Civil War. We tend to be one of the best-functioning as well. I'd like to see a nation even a third the U.S.' size that can compete in that manner.

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:02 PM (Y993C)

197 RIP, Ray. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1l8T2Lcl0 There was a particular live version of "Moonlight Drive" I was looking for, but no luck. This'll have to do. Anyway, it showcases him. One of the greatest rock keyboardists ever.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2013 06:02 PM (sdi6R)

198 Oh, PGIS.....I hope so, but.....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 06:02 PM (zrlmb)

199 here's some Alicia Witt BRB

Posted by: Captain Whitebread isn't very convincing at May 20, 2013 06:02 PM (5J54Q)

200 That girl needs to be oiled up and ~~gently~~ spanked. Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 10:00 PM (lr3d7) Muuuuuuch better.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:03 PM (GEICT)

201 As for the culture, though, you got me. Nothing beats Western Civilization. Look at the f'in map too.

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:03 PM (Y993C)

202 195 BC, who the hell would even notice Trump??? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 10:01 PM (zrlmb) *raises hand* Now, I get why you wouldn't.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:04 PM (GEICT)

203 Mike Hammer- I agree w/you. My parents lost their house in Hurricane Floyd in 1999. Salvation Army was there first, Red Cross was worthless.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 20, 2013 06:04 PM (Dt+R8)

204 But I do want to know how a guy known as 'The Hammer' watches that show?
Posted by: Tami at May 20, 2013 09:52 PM (X6akg)
---------------------

Disclaimer-- I have no idea who 'The Hammer' is, but I do not know the guy, and any resemblance is strictly coincidental.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:04 PM (aDwsi)

205 It's just human nature. As ethnic diversity increases, some ethnic groups get an advantage by bending the rules in favor of their ethnic kinsman. If that group is small, the majority can ignore it and still stick to an honest govt ethos. But as the majority shrinks, more groups decide to copy the corrupt cheater groups and cheat for their family, cousins, ethnic kin. Eventually anybody who isn't corrupt starts feeling like a sucker. Why be the only honest bureaucrat? Why let your family suffer while everybody else is cheating and taking bribes and being corrupt? Corruption spreads like an infectious disease. And once it hits a critical mass it's really hard to stop.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 06:05 PM (ZPrif)

206 Just for the record, I'm not a ghandi fan.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 06:05 PM (qPCAa)

207 Disclaimer-- I have no idea who 'The Hammer' is, but I do not know the guy, and any resemblance is strictly coincidental. Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 10:04 PM (aDwsi) Lol. My FIL used to be a cop in PG County, MD. Just outside DC. "The Hammer" was the nickname the guys on the street gave him. For a couple reasons.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:06 PM (GEICT)

208 199 here's some Alicia Witt BRB Posted by: Captain Whitebread isn't very convincing at May 20, 2013 10:02 PM (5J54Q) this one http://tinyurl.com/pkx5dq7

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 06:06 PM (XvrTA)

209

Cybil in Last Picture Show is highly fappable.

Chafe Factor : High.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2013 06:06 PM (o24Kn)

210

"In a war zone. With soldiers like my dad just coming in from the front, they wanted money."
That was my father's experience in the Pacific as well. He didn't like them either.
He loved the Salvation Army.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 20, 2013 06:06 PM (IknLN)

211 Corruption spreads like an infectious disease. And once it hits a critical mass it's really hard to stop. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 10:05 PM ------------------------------------ Also known as becoming a "blue state".

Posted by: irright at May 20, 2013 06:07 PM (DtNNC)

212 1999 Broadway in Denver, noon tomorrow. (TeaPartyPatriots got their database back, I see.)

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2013 06:07 PM (QTHTd)

213

this one

http://tinyurl.com/pkx5dq7

You could put an eye out with those things. Someone should help her cover them up for the public's protection. I volunteer myself *makes squeezing motions with hands*

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 06:07 PM (lr3d7)

214 Red Cross CEO salary is about 1 million. Compare that to Salvation Army.

Posted by: Ronster at May 20, 2013 06:07 PM (sa3Ro)

215

My friend had the unfortunate task of chaperoning at a weekend Girl Scout campout this weekend. Apparently the Girl Scouts are all in on the liberal wet dream agenda--the use of any prayers mentioning "Lord" or "God" was banned, so the grace at meal times was about giving back to the mother river (WTF???) They had to take their own cloth napkins to use all weekend. All food was healthy, nothing pre-packaged. the s'mores were low fat sugar free. There was no sugar or cream for the mom's coffee in the mornings. All the crafts had to be done with recycled materials, they weren't allowed to bring any craft that was made up of new materials.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 06:08 PM (RZ8pf)

216 203 Mike Hammer- I agree w/you. My parents lost their house in Hurricane Floyd in 1999. Salvation Army was there first, Red Cross was worthless.
--------------

The same will be true of FEMA. They will spend enormous amounts of money, and leave behind people living in moldy, second-hand trailers. FEMA is peopled with profligate, inefficient asshats, with boatloads of our money, and no on-the-ground grasp of what to do, or how to do it. It is too large and too unwieldy to do anything but throw money around.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:08 PM (aDwsi)

217 My FIL used to be a cop in PG County, MD. Just outside DC. "The Hammer" was the nickname the guys on the street gave him. For a couple reasons.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 10:06 PM (GEICT)

Ahhh. PG.

The armpit of DC.

Used to do Loss Prevention at the Forestville JCP. Good times.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at May 20, 2013 06:08 PM (GRvW4)

218 Why Did A 501(c)3 Non-Profit Public Charity Openly Campaign for Obama? An Federally recognized 501(c)3 non-profit public charity has openly campaigned for ObamaÂ’s re-election. An eco-group called Â“Earth GuardiansÂ” lists themselves as Â“a project of GAYA Â– Global Alliance of Youth in Action, which is a Federally Recognized 501(c)3 Non-Profit Public Charity and a Colorado Non-Profit Corporation.Â” It is illegal for a 501(c) to openly campaign for a candidate for public office, amongst other political activities. Yet, they have done just that More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=2289

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 06:09 PM (Vk2pI)

219 215 My friend had the unfortunate task of chaperoning at a weekend Girl Scout campout this weekend. Apparently the Girl Scouts are all in on the liberal wet dream agenda--the use of any prayers mentioning "Lord" or "God" was banned, so the grace at meal times was about giving back to the mother river (WTF???) They had to take their own cloth napkins to use all weekend. All food was healthy, nothing pre-packaged. the s'mores were low fat sugar free. There was no sugar or cream for the mom's coffee in the mornings. All the crafts had to be done with recycled materials, they weren't allowed to bring any craft that was made up of new materials. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 10:08 PM (RZ8pf) *immediately begins searching for a local 4H for his daughters*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:09 PM (GEICT)

220 Also known as becoming a "blue state". Posted by: irright at May 20, 2013 10:07 PM (DtNNC) Especially when the other party says "OK" and closes it's eyes. See: Michigan, Illinois, California, Colorado, New Jersey, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Maryland, Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Iowa and Nevada.

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:09 PM (Y993C)

221 Buzzfeed: 13 pics from Oklahoma....little lost doggeh is the last one.

http://tinyurl.com/m5lreu9

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 06:09 PM (X6akg)

222 the grace at meal times was about giving back to the mother river (WTF???) /nods

Posted by: Lisa Jackson's official portrait at May 20, 2013 06:10 PM (qr4u7)

223 Ahhh. PG. The armpit of DC. Used to do Loss Prevention at the Forestville JCP. Good times. Posted by: eastvalleyphx at May 20, 2013 10:08 PM (GRvW4) Wife grew up in Bowie, MD. Went to Bowie High School. Those are some awesome stories.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:10 PM (GEICT)

224 Who else is going to protest tomorrow ?? . I've decided to go to Fort Worth. Our T.P. put out an all-hands on deck alert tonight.. and yes, they were targeted by the IRS. They put the questionnaire online and it's as bad as has been previously put out. Unbelievable. Posted by: Yip at May 20, 2013 09:57 PM Alas, I can't make the drive to either Lansing or Detroit (Rock City). I got sucked in to an all day meeting tomorrow. Via Glenn; we get Dana Loesch's warning: Watch out for "infiltrators" http://tinyurl.com/nw35ur8

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 20, 2013 06:10 PM (JMmQ9)

225 Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 10:08 PM (RZ8pf) Sweet Jesus.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 06:11 PM (zrlmb)

226 Wife grew up in Bowie, MD. Went to Bowie High School. Those are some awesome stories. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 10:10 PM (GEICT) Ah, Maryland. The only state that makes California look sane.

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:11 PM (Y993C)

227 Well, until recently America was 80-85% white. Now that "white" category was a blend of euro ethnic groups. But basically a new "white" category got invented by combining them. This was done, of course, at the expense of black people for the first 200 years of America. Also the most corrupt parts of America were the big cities where there was still large "ethnic white" pockets and where people voted for their tribe -- Irish, Italian, Polish, whatever. This had a lot to do with those groups being Catholic and so the melting pot was slower with them than with previous white protestants. The most honest local and state governments in the US have historically been in New England (outside of Boston) and the upper midwest. These regions also tended to be more ethnically homogenous. The scandis in the upper midwest are honest people. But even scandis won't stay honest forever if they keep seeing their family and friends screwed over by other ethnic groups.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 06:12 PM (ZPrif)

228 I see that Rhode Island's senator Sheldon Whitehouse, "Shitehouse" for short, is bringin' the classy:

http://tinyurl.com/mwlzcmy

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2013 06:12 PM (QTHTd)

229 Wife grew up in Bowie, MD. Went to Bowie High School. Those are some awesome stories.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 10:10 PM (GEICT)

You're in FL, right? Think Hialeah.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at May 20, 2013 06:12 PM (GRvW4)

230 this one http://tinyurl.com/pkx5dq7 Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 10:06 PM (XvrTA) Dang. Well, see y'all in a few minutes. Again.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread isn't very convincing at May 20, 2013 06:12 PM (5J54Q)

231 Maetenloch, Why are you lying to your readers about the IRS scandal being the worst of all time. If that was true, Obama's approval ratings would have tanked. They have not because Americans stand by Obama against the Republicans. You lie to these people, but you can't change political reality. America is laughing at Republicans.

Posted by: Obama #1 of all time at May 20, 2013 06:12 PM (2K2es)

232

I feel somewhat offended that the grace was said to the "mother river" what is that some sort of Wicca crap? And who says the river is a mother anyway? I thought it was "old man river"

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 06:13 PM (RZ8pf)

233 Ah, Maryland. The only state that makes California look sane. Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 10:11 PM (Y993C) I wouldn't go quite that far. We lived in MD just after we got married. From Summer 2003 to Winter 2006. People in MD were more ignorant/stupid than crazy. People from Cali are straight fucking crazy. And they got a whole shitpile of arrogance on top of that crazy cake.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:13 PM (GEICT)

234 227 Flatbush Joe Spoken like a true Klansman! White power!

Posted by: Obama #1 of all time at May 20, 2013 06:13 PM (2K2es)

235 Please don't say Alicia Witt. I keep getting images of that creepy little girl in Dune stuck in my head. Scary.

Posted by: Jerry at May 20, 2013 06:13 PM (4SKYj)

236 because mother Gaia, silly

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:13 PM (nH8jP)

237 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 10:12 PM (ZPrif) so your solution is... ?

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:13 PM (Y993C)

238 Hector's an OFA plant. Has to be.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2013 06:14 PM (QTHTd)

239 "And who says the river is a mother anyway? I thought it was "old man river""

The Girl Scouts, keeping the man down.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 06:14 PM (Fz2C7)

240 Tammy, that's "sweet mother river" get with the program!

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 06:14 PM (RZ8pf)

241 You're in FL, right? Think Hialeah. Posted by: eastvalleyphx at May 20, 2013 10:12 PM (GRvW4) I'm waaaaaay north of there. And like I said, I lived in MD for 3 1/2 years. I get it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:14 PM (GEICT)

242 >>>--the use of any prayers mentioning "Lord" or "God" was banned, so the grace at meal times was about giving back to the mother river (WTF???) I remember a year our church was routinely renewing the annual scout org sponsorships. Boy/Cub Scouts? Renewed. Girl Scouts? Pass. Being a Baptist church, the above would explain it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 06:14 PM (4Mv1T)

243 237 CAC His solution is the final solution. That is what his German cousins did to their undesirables.

Posted by: Obama #1 of all time at May 20, 2013 06:14 PM (2K2es)

244 216- My parents refused the FEMA trailer. They ended up staying in a hotel for a month (got charged $100 per day) and then with my sister. Having said that, I think the media used FEMA to beat up on Bush during Katrina, so their intended purpose was seriously exaggerated and now everyone expects them to be a first responder. They're not. They basically just handed out checks and offered temporary housing.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 20, 2013 06:14 PM (Dt+R8)

245 Posted by: Obama #1 of all time at May 20, 2013 10:12 PM (2K2es) You're an obvious troll and a small-minded fool, not worthy of much effort for noble people here. But if you want a credible retort to your false assertion, look up President Nixon's approval ratings during the unveiling of the Watergate scandal. I'll give you a hint - they didn't drop all at once.

Posted by: Thrawn at May 20, 2013 06:15 PM (JqnAE)

246

Obama #1 of all time at May 20, 2013 10:13 PM (2K2es)

time to play the game "Sock or Douche?"

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:15 PM (nH8jP)

247 Obama #1 of all time at May 20, 2013 10:13 PM (2K2es) Say hello to your mom's titties for me. *zzzz*

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:15 PM (Y993C)

248 231. Watch out troll Maet's pimp hand is strong

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:15 PM (9cjF1)

249

Douche

def douche

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:16 PM (nH8jP)

250 Did I also mention that his balls have a lovely, vinegary piquant?

Posted by: Obama #1 of all time. OF ALL TIME! at May 20, 2013 06:16 PM (O+eC4)

251 Attention! Troll clean-up at number 231...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread isn't very convincing at May 20, 2013 06:16 PM (5J54Q)

252 CAC is funneh

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:16 PM (nH8jP)

253 The *zzzz* button is in perfect form tonight.

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:16 PM (Y993C)

254 Ah, Maryland. The only state that makes California look sane.
Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 10:11 PM (Y993C)

*ahem*

Posted by: The People's Democratic Republic of Massachusetts at May 20, 2013 06:16 PM (SpGmP)

255 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 10:12 PM (ZPrif) Have a nice chat with the troll.

Posted by: eman at May 20, 2013 06:17 PM (SXsuy)

256 Posted by: Obama #1 of all time at May 20, 2013 10:14 PM (2K2es)

IP address coming from Germany = previously-banned troll or Neo-Nazi.
Either way Mr. TB3K would like to meet with you privately.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 20, 2013 06:17 PM (pAlYe)

257 That was fast Told ya

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:17 PM (9cjF1)

258 Boy/Cub Scouts? Renewed.
Girl Scouts? Pass.

Did they move on to American Heritage Girls?

Posted by: Jean at May 20, 2013 06:17 PM (CMlD4)

259 TB3K where are ye?

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2013 06:18 PM (o24Kn)

260

the banhammer is strong and swift tonight

like...nevermind

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:18 PM (nH8jP)

261 Oh Maet??!?!?!

It's baaaaaaack

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:18 PM (SpGmP)

262 Maet, for what it's worth, I've added it to the database. No match...this time

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 20, 2013 06:18 PM (JMmQ9)

263 Daily Show Creator says Oklahoma Tornado is for Conservatives...

leftists...ugly from the inside, out.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/05/20/daily-show-creator-twister

Posted by: metronil at May 20, 2013 06:19 PM (CnlUu)

264 Ghandi was really fortunate that his opponents were the British. I don't think he would fare as well against the commies.

Posted by: free tibet at May 20, 2013 06:19 PM (quLHy)

265 Don't really have a solution. Other than slowing immigration so the melting pot can work through the existing population. Also getting rid of any govt benefits like affirmative action for any and all ethnic groups. Hispanics used to want to become "white" but now there are benefits to holding on to ethnic difference. Now obviously white people search for any hint of non-white identity to claim govt and societal benefits. Large scale immigration worked when the melting pot worked. It no longer does, so immigration now brings balkanization and corruption.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 06:19 PM (ZPrif)

266 PGiS, yes WTF was I thinkin'?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 06:19 PM (zrlmb)

267 Via Glenn; we get Dana Loesch's warning: Watch out for "infiltrators" http://tinyurl.com/nw35ur8 Posted by: AltonJackson at May 20, 2013 10:10 PM (JMmQ9) There was an infiltrator at a Tea Party rally I went to at the Ohio Statehouse. Asshole had a sign w/ Obomber hanging from a noose. Two women were prepared w/ signs that said 'Not Tea Party' with an arrow pointing. They followed him the whole time so he couldn't get his photo op. Pretty cool.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 06:19 PM (XvrTA)

268 My friend had the unfortunate task of chaperoning at a weekend Girl Scout campout this weekend. Apparently the Girl Scouts are all in on the liberal wet dream agenda--the use of any prayers mentioning "Lord" or "God" was banned, so the grace at meal times was about giving back to the mother river (WTF???) They had to take their own cloth napkins to use all weekend. All food was healthy, nothing pre-packaged. the s'mores were low fat sugar free. There was no sugar or cream for the mom's coffee in the mornings. All the crafts had to be done with recycled materials, they weren't allowed to bring any craft that was made up of new materials.
---------------

Like all morally-straight cultural institutions, the Left have been working at seizing the GSA, and succeeding. As we all know, The BSA are in their sights.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:19 PM (aDwsi)

269

Girl Scouts? Pass.

-----

You mean I can't even buy freakin COOKIES without I'm supporting some Earthist commie horseshit? No wonder we can't make any headway.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 20, 2013 06:19 PM (hC80d)

270 Keep dreaming. Obama has beaten you clowns time and time again. Posted by: Obama #1 of all time at May 20, 2013 10:17 PM -------------------------------- Apparently, this troll is talking to it's own genitals.

Posted by: irright at May 20, 2013 06:19 PM (DtNNC)

271 Wow, think about how much your life must suck where trolling is a good use of your time.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:20 PM (SpGmP)

272

pro tip I learnt from the pros

never copy troll shit, it replicates

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:20 PM (nH8jP)

273 Alton, its style is Hector's. It switches IPs. Almost as if someone set up a bunch of accounts maybe in many different countries, just for him to use.

Hmm.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2013 06:20 PM (QTHTd)

274 Large scale immigration worked when the melting pot worked. It no longer does, so immigration now brings balkanization and corruption. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 10:19 PM (ZPrif) mass immigration Welfare State Democracy pick any two

Posted by: Jake in ID at May 20, 2013 06:20 PM (zzeVM)

275 The Daily Mail has photos of the Moore tornado and its aftermath. Devastating.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 20, 2013 06:20 PM (5J54Q)

276 268 Wow, think about how much your life must suck where trolling is a good use of your time. Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 10:20 PM (SpGmP) Careful, that kind of logic could be turned against the Horde.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:21 PM (GEICT)

277 262. As the son of a woman from Mexico City I would like to say for all of us with Mexican blood... Go fuck yourself

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:21 PM (9cjF1)

278

If anybody is interested, Ace did NOT do all his homework on his "Doctored email" thread, and will probably wish he had. I was happy to "finish it up", but was late to the party (see the last couple of comments, where I have tracked down the exact quotes).

My own read on it is that the true "undoctored" version is a single email from a staffer at the WH who is basically saying, in bureaucrat-speak, that POTUS is unhappy with how this makes it sound like his campaign points are crap, so go back and do it over.

So it actually points to the WH as the real source of the talking point revisions, the way I read it. I would like to hear other morons opinions. It wouldn't be the first time that journalists missed the main point (such as missing that "you didn't build that" was tantamount to a socialist manifesto, not simply a slap in the face to small business).

Posted by: Optimizer at May 20, 2013 06:22 PM (Mxt9o)

279 You guys realize ARC and Salvation Army split up areas so they don't duplicate effort, they aren't competitors. If you were in an SA footprint, you shouldn't have dealt much with the ARC

Posted by: Jean at May 20, 2013 06:22 PM (CMlD4)

280 Careful, that kind of logic could be turned against the Horde.

We're not trolling.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:22 PM (SpGmP)

281 And a lot of the good of the melting pot came directly at the expense of black people. Every society has a hated group at the bottom. That seems fairly unavoidable. Democrats are working hard to make that group be southern Christian whites. Problem for the health of the country is that's like 30%+ of the nation. That's a large minority to serve as the hated whipping dog.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 06:22 PM (ZPrif)

282 >>>Did they move on to American Heritage Girls? I do not know. It was about 10 years ago.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 06:23 PM (4Mv1T)

283 You all just be nativist scum. I'm gonna go hang out with my supermodel Latin gf.

Posted by: Hector, troof teller and bringer of da fax at May 20, 2013 06:23 PM (Aif/5)

284 Proxy servers.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 06:23 PM (zrlmb)

285 266. If it meant I can stock up on thin mints I would support Michelle Obama for president And most of you would too so don't lie

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:24 PM (9cjF1)

286
Good evening once again, my fair morons. I scored a purchase today, although I don't know if that was from a moron or just delightful happenstance.

I recently published a children's novel called "My Teachers are Zombies!"

It's the nice story of three friends who discover their teacher is a zombie who is trying to make their brains bigger so as to eat them later (with a dash of pepper).

I would like to encourage people to at least read the sample provided on the Amazon page (available at http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKJ70AW) and if it catches your interest, please feel free to purchase it or gift it to a friend!

I double edited it as well, to avoid the common spelling and grammar mistakes that plague most first time writers (of course, mentioning that guarantees at least two errors will crop up in this message). I also made sure there was a bit of light foreshadowing, use of Chekov's gun, and lamp-shading. Additionally, it's a self-contained story, not a series, which appeals to me in an era of unnecessary trilogies and sequels.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Posted by: Tom In Korea (author of My Teachers are Zombies, buy it on Amazon.com!) at May 20, 2013 06:24 PM (oJkTX)

287 it wasn't a single email, they massaged the facts, for days at a time,

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 20, 2013 06:24 PM (Jsiw/)

288 I have multiple IPs, I can do this all night Mateonbitch. Why are you lying to these people? Posted by: Back! at May 20, 2013 10:21 PM (2K2es) I understand your lack of a life. It takes dedication to do this all night. Perhaps you should find a woman other than your own mother to fuck. It'll leave your mind less tangled. Oh and not your sister. I'm sure the beejers are awesome and all that but unless you're coming on her tits you run the risk of further inbreeding. Have a great night! *zzzz*

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:24 PM (Y993C)

289 Having been on the receiving end of two frivolous lawsuits I can tell you that Patton Boggs may well regret their decision to file that third one. I was told that if my tormentor filed a third we would stand a good chance of picking up legal fees and damages. He did not file again because, as we later learned, he couldn't find a lawyer willing to do it.

Evidently stupid runs rampant at the big-time firms.

Posted by: creeper at May 20, 2013 06:25 PM (cDytO)

290 You all just be nativist scum. I'm gonna go hang out with my ~~supermodel Latin gf~~mail order trollop.

FIFY

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:25 PM (SpGmP)

291 Remember, next Sunday is Be Nice to Brown People Day.

Posted by: eman at May 20, 2013 06:25 PM (SXsuy)

292 283 266. If it meant I can stock up on thin mints I would support Michelle Obama for president And most of you would too so don't lie Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 10:24 PM (9cjF1) I prefer Samoas (or whatever PC name they have for them now).

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 20, 2013 06:25 PM (5J54Q)

293 Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 10:21 PM (9cjF1) As the daughter of dirty Scandis, Welshmen, Limeys, Micks and Scots I'd like to add "with the barded cock of Satan."

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 06:25 PM (zrlmb)

294 I understand your lack of a life. It takes dedication to do this all night. Perhaps you should find a woman other than your own mother to fuck. It'll leave your mind less tangled. Oh and not your sister. I'm sure the beejers are awesome and all that but unless you're coming on her tits you run the risk of further inbreeding. Have a great night! *zzzz* Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 10:24 PM (Y993C) *chokes on Oreo Cheesecake Milkshake* Bravo sir, bravo.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:26 PM (GEICT)

295 "275 262. As the son of a woman from Mexico City I would like to say for all of us with Mexican blood...
Go fuck yourself

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 10:21 PM (9cjF1)"

Lighten up, making everything taboo to talk about in the name of liberalism/anti-discrimination doesn't help either.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 06:26 PM (Fz2C7)

296 Mail order Trollops are people too dammit!

Posted by: Hector, troof teller and bringer of da fax at May 20, 2013 06:26 PM (Aif/5)

297 Dead Snow - great Zombie Nazi movie

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:26 PM (nH8jP)

298 @275 wtf are you talking about? read more carefully. I'm talking about the rise of corruption in America. This has gone up significantly since the change in immigration laws and increased ethnic diversity. This is a fact. I'm not saying any ethnic group is bad or evil or ... whatever you read into what I wrote. I'm just analyzing the situation. I'm not saying certain groups are inherently corrupt. And the 99% Mexican border towns in Texas have some of the lowest crime rates in America. I would argue the ethnic homogeneity is part of the reason why.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 06:26 PM (ZPrif)

299 WHy is this blog scared of the truth. Obama is winning.

Posted by: Victor at May 20, 2013 06:26 PM (8JTY0)

300 I can't think of any other scandal where the government actually engaged in widespread extra-legal stifling of dissent on ideological grounds. Bah, upstaged by a n*****!

Posted by: Woodrow Wilson at May 20, 2013 06:27 PM (Vk2pI)

301 CAC is a bad ass. And funneh

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:27 PM (nH8jP)

302

Posted by: Obama #1 of all time at May 20, 2013 10:12 PM (2K2es)

You never did learn to cook did you, just learned to eat.

Posted by: Augustus McCrea (aim low boys, they lookin up at snakebelly) at May 20, 2013 06:27 PM (uOxBm)

303 You all just be nativist scum. I'm gonna go hang out with my supermodel Latin gfmail order trollop.
------------------

Wait, I can mail order a trollop? From where..., Amazon?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:27 PM (aDwsi)

304 Mail order Trollops are people too dammit!

No, see, actually it says right here that they're a type of weasel.

Look for yourself.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:27 PM (SpGmP)

305 #298 Because your fucking your mother and sister at the same time and jizzing on the dog is disturbing and unwelcome here. Oh, and THE ARISTICRATS! *zzzz*

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:28 PM (Y993C)

306 *chokes on Oreo Cheesecake Milkshake* Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 10:26 PM (GEICT) You've been to Sonic again? I hope you brought enough for everyone...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 20, 2013 06:28 PM (5J54Q)

307 If it meant I can stock up on thin mints I would support Michelle Obama for president And most of you would too so don't lie Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 10:24 PM (9cjF1) Keebler makes a cookie that is the same. I don't mean 'kinda' the same. I mean a blind taste test would certainly show that most people couldn't tell the diff. 'Course I don't know where the politics of those flippin' elves lies, they're probably progtards.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 06:28 PM (XvrTA)

308

trollop or scallop?

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:28 PM (nH8jP)

309 Candy Crowley's debate interference was many things...but "inexplicable" was not one of them.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at May 20, 2013 06:28 PM (yJYwC)

310 A couple weeks ago I helped people fill out medical forms. Under race the choices were: Hispanic, non Hispanic or other.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 20, 2013 06:29 PM (DoZD+)

311 CAC is a bad ass. And funneh Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 10:27 PM (nH8jP) My wife made me this way. She slices like a fucking hammer, had to figure out ways to one-up her. She also demanded at the wedding that "the guys get shirts"

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:29 PM (Y993C)

312 hi all
thank you Maet for another great ONT
How is everyone doing tonight

Posted by: chemjeff at May 20, 2013 06:29 PM (BBWjt)

313 You've been to Sonic again? I hope you brought enough for everyone... Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 20, 2013 10:28 PM (5J54Q) It's not that good. It's certainly no Peanut Butter Fudge.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:29 PM (GEICT)

314 As someone who moved from a diverse area to a less diverse area - Flatbush Joe is right.

On average, he's right.

It might make you feel better and it will certainly win you points with the Diversity Department at work if you insist publicly otherwise, but most people are happiest living with people most like them.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2013 06:29 PM (QTHTd)

315 "Posted by: Woodrow Wilson at May 20, 2013 10:27 PM (Vk2pI)"

We don't need that shit neither.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 06:29 PM (Fz2C7)

316 293. You know I give you mad props lowandslow but in this case no What he wrote is straight up racist bullshit and he needs to be called out on it

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:30 PM (fmjNz)

317 trollop or scallop? Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 10:28 PM (nH8jP)

I like my Diver Trollops served with an aubergine and a lemongrass coulis.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:30 PM (SpGmP)

318 Keebler makes a cookie that is the same. ---------------------- Ah, Grasshopper.

Posted by: Big Fatass Sensei at May 20, 2013 06:30 PM (DtNNC)

319 well well CAC, and she chose you. You done good.

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:30 PM (nH8jP)

320 It's not that good. It's certainly no Peanut Butter Fudge. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 10:29 PM (GEICT) I have a bad craving for a milkshake. Just too lazy to leave the house.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 20, 2013 06:31 PM (5J54Q)

321 They closed down our local sonic last year. I was depressed and outraged. Kind of like when Obama was reflected.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 20, 2013 06:31 PM (DoZD+)

322 314 293. You know I give you mad props lowandslow but in this case no
What he wrote is straight up racist bullshit and he needs to be called out on it
Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 10:30 PM (fmjNz)

I think you're reading more into it than was actually there.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 20, 2013 06:31 PM (pAlYe)

323 My favorite Hector comment was the one where he claimed his grandfather was a member of a group that fought against the Nazis, except that the group he named actually fought for the nazis. Oops!

Posted by: Adam at May 20, 2013 06:31 PM (Aif/5)

324 I'm not remotely close to the original protestant English founding populations. So I'm not advocating some racial nativism. The cultural heritage of the WASPs -- especially the honest, good govt, anti-corruption, and equality under the law traditions are ones I'm proud to be a cultural, if not biological, inheritor of. I'm just explaining why America has gotten more corrupt. And probably will continue to do so. Same with europe. The Democrats modern coalition is largely based on race and ethnicity. Some simple analysis of voting behavior shows that's true. There's a reason the Democrats dismiss everything Repub as "white". Because it works.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 06:31 PM (ZPrif)

325 I have a bad craving for a milkshake. Just too lazy to leave the house. Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 20, 2013 10:31 PM (5J54Q) Sonic milkshakes are half off after 8.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:31 PM (GEICT)

326 but most people are happiest living with people most like them. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2013 10:29 PM (QTHTd) Yeah going to have to disagree with you there. My life experience was probably radically different than yours though, and I don't think people take that much into account. It's easier to squirm, dance and yell than accept people can get "rubbed the wrong way" one too many times and...well... then it becomes easier to just "deal with your own".

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:31 PM (Y993C)

327 305. Really? I can have thin mints year long? SWEET!!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:32 PM (fmjNz)

328 Keebler makes a cookie that is the same. I don't mean 'kinda' the same. I mean a blind taste test would certainly show that most people couldn't tell the diff.
---------

It's not like the GSA bakes them themselves... they just put it out for bids.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:32 PM (aDwsi)

329 Hi, Chemjeff. Happy the tornado missed my town. Sad I can't do much to help those it hit.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 20, 2013 06:32 PM (5J54Q)

330 Well, hell, I thought we were telling the troll to fuck himself, not that he needs to be told, since that's all he prolly gets, but do I owe someone an I'm sorry?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 06:32 PM (zrlmb)

331

I like the Samoans, until they decided the name was not PC and they renamed them Caramel Delights.

like, why would a Samoan be offended by a delicious cookie? Serious, you guys

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:32 PM (nH8jP)

332 Keebler makes a cookie that is the same. ---------------------- Ah, Grasshopper. Posted by: Big Fatass Sensei at May 20, 2013 10:30 PM (DtNNC) That's it. I'm assuming everyone freezes these. You all freeze them.....right?

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 06:32 PM (XvrTA)

333 Reflected = reelected

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 20, 2013 06:32 PM (DoZD+)

334 320. Maybe Ill let it go then

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:33 PM (fmjNz)

335 That's it. I'm assuming everyone freezes these. You all freeze them.....right? Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 10:32 PM (XvrTA) Of course!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:33 PM (GEICT)

336

Dead Snow - great Zombie Nazi movie

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 10:26 PM (nH8jP)

Trailer looks good..where does one view such a film?

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 20, 2013 06:33 PM (hC80d)

337 312 As someone who moved from a diverse area to a less diverse area - Flatbush Joe is right. On average, he's right. It might make you feel better and it will certainly win you points with the Diversity Department at work if you insist publicly otherwise, but most people are happiest living with people most like them. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2013 10:29 PM (QTHTd) The real problem is politicians exploit and intensify the human tendency to tribalism. We are all supposed to belong to a single, over-arching American tribe, but that has faded away, and not naturally either.

Posted by: eman at May 20, 2013 06:33 PM (SXsuy)

338 Blog re GSA vs. Keebler cookies
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/2011/03/do_the_keebler_elves_hate_girl.php

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:33 PM (aDwsi)

339 Alright, I'm out. Enjoy your evening Horde. Maet, CAC...bring the hammer down.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:33 PM (GEICT)

340 Sonic milkshakes are half off after 8.Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 10:31 PM (GEICT)

It disturbs me that you know this.

But it disturbs me more than you didn't bring me one.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:34 PM (SpGmP)

341 Damn, I missed the Ban hammering.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 06:34 PM (qPCAa)

342 Yeah Wilson's actions may come close. But the sheer scale and clearly illegal actions of the IRS scandal still set it apart. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at May 20, 2013 09:16 PM (pAlYe) Obama = Wilson in blackface

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 06:34 PM (Vk2pI)

343 320. Wait a sec I'm a democrat.... Aren't I supposed to go on a cable news program and the sue someone?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:34 PM (fmjNz)

344 burp

Posted by: burber at May 20, 2013 06:34 PM (Jd21E)

345 still samoas, at least in this part of the country. And no, nothing would ever impel me to vote for MO for President.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 06:34 PM (RZ8pf)

346 I like reflected better

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:34 PM (nH8jP)

347 296 Oddly, the 100% Mexican border towns in Mexico are pretty high in crime and corruption. And, no, I wouldn't say that the ethnically homogenous Rio Grande Valley is low in crime and corruption on this side of the border El Paso is, but that's a much bally-hooed anomaly. Correlation =/= causation, and I'm not that convinced the correlation is there, even.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 20, 2013 06:34 PM (GmTxn)

348 It disturbs me that you know this. But it disturbs me more than you didn't bring me one. Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 10:34 PM (SpGmP) Last thing. I didn't know until Saturday. The wife and I decided to pull through to grab lunch after the eldest kiddo's dance recital. Signs everywhere.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 06:35 PM (GEICT)

349 It disturbs me that you know this. But it disturbs me more than you didn't bring me one. Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 10:34 PM (SpGmP) The peanut-butter-and-bacon one is shittier than the spot-a-pot behind an Arby's. Then again I'm lucky to even eat a kiddie size with the absent gall bladder.

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:35 PM (Y993C)

350 I love justin burber

Posted by: burber at May 20, 2013 06:35 PM (Jd21E)

351 330. Well duh Of course you freeze them

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:35 PM (fmjNz)

352 Trailer looks good..where does one view such a film? Posted by: USS Diversity at May 20, 2013 10:33 PM (hC80d

It's fun. Subtitled. Amazon has it avail now for streaming. I watched it after it became avail here and enjoyed. Nazis...zombies... blood... it's what's good for you..

Posted by: Yip at May 20, 2013 06:35 PM (/jHWN)

353 Incoming.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 06:35 PM (4Mv1T)

354

a part of the burber movement

when will you guys give up? Its embarrassing

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:36 PM (nH8jP)

355 Last thing. I didn't know until Saturday. The wife and I decided to pull through to grab lunch after the eldest kiddo's dance recital. Signs everywhere. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 20, 2013 10:35 PM (GEICT)

Who are you? Eric Holder?

You didn't know? You just found out?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:36 PM (SpGmP)

356 The real problem is politicians exploit and intensify the human tendency to tribalism. We are all supposed to belong to a single, over-arching American tribe, but that has faded away, and not naturally either. Posted by: eman at May 20, 2013 10:33 PM (SXsuy) That is actually a very good point, nicely articulated. But, we're talkin' cookies, man.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 06:36 PM (XvrTA)

357 we have a sonic?

Posted by: Jean at May 20, 2013 06:36 PM (CMlD4)

358 I have a burber carpet

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:37 PM (nH8jP)

359 justin berber is hard working kid and he deserves everything he gets

Posted by: burper at May 20, 2013 06:37 PM (Jd21E)

360 #357 The fuck is thisness?

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:37 PM (Y993C)

361 343. We're talk GSA thin mints I would trade my kid for a box of frozen thin mints

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:38 PM (fmjNz)

362 My friend had the unfortunate task of chaperoning at a weekend Girl Scout campout this weekend. Apparently the Girl Scouts are all in on the liberal wet dream agenda--the use of any prayers mentioning "Lord" or "God" was banned, so the grace at meal times was about giving back to the mother river (WTF???) They had to take their own cloth napkins to use all weekend. All food was healthy, nothing pre-packaged. the s'mores were low fat sugar free. There was no sugar or cream for the mom's coffee in the mornings. All the crafts had to be done with recycled materials, they weren't allowed to bring any craft that was made up of new materials. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 10:08 PM (RZ8pf) I would have though they'd have gone onto the full out lesbian orgy by now...

Posted by: The Lesbianic Hat at May 20, 2013 06:38 PM (Vk2pI)

363 I have homemade chocolate chip cookies in the freezer and an oven that doesn't work.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2013 06:38 PM (Ppc6W)

364 They're now saying 20 children are among the dead....expect more.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 06:38 PM (X6akg)

365 I don't freeze them, probably because they never last more then fifteen minutes once I get them in the house. Strange.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 06:38 PM (Fz2C7)

366

Actually the Girl Scouts don't put them out for bid, there are 2 licensed bakeries for Girl Scout cookies and those have been the same for a long time.

Can those Keebler elves get on making a substitute for the peanut butter sandwich cookies? That's my current Girl Scout cookie addiction.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 06:38 PM (RZ8pf)

367 They're still called Samoas..I had one this morning.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 20, 2013 06:38 PM (hC80d)

368 Navycopjoe, you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Read more clearly and stop being such a dick. Seriously. And I'll bet $1000 you are more white than I am. I didn't say any group was better than any other. Or worse. Learn some history. Learn how other societies with a great deal of ethnic, linguistic, and religious diversity behave. They tend to be very corrupt with the various tribal groups constantly abusing each other and engaging in self-dealing. I explained how the pre-1968 large scale immigration in the US avoided that -- and that included the great evils of slavery and Jim Crow. The good of the melting pot that worked so well for white euro immigrants came with an extreme downside if you were in that black minority. whatev, enjoy your rage-boner

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 06:38 PM (ZPrif)

369

who is up for designing the lesbian orgy merit badge!

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:39 PM (nH8jP)

370 324 but most people are happiest living with people most like them.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2013 10:29 PM (QTHTd)
Yeah going to have to disagree with you there. My life experience was probably radically different than yours though, and I don't think people take that much into account. It's easier to squirm, dance and yell than accept people can get "rubbed the wrong way" one too many times and...well... then it becomes easier to just "deal with your own".
Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 10:31 PM (Y993C)

We like to think that diversity is completely good and cost-free but it's not. There have been multiple studies showing that that higher diversity in an area is associated with lower social trust and social cohesion.

Now that doesn't mean that *on the whole* diversity isn't good but we do have to acknowledge that one of its downsides is a certain amount of 'cultural friction' and loss of social trust. But normally as long as everyone feels part of a larger culture it can be counter-acted. But if you get too much Balkanization and alienation, then it can tip things over into a 'low trust' society.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 20, 2013 06:39 PM (pAlYe)

371 The fuck is thisness?

If you could just shitcan #348 then the baiting socks will stop too.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:39 PM (SpGmP)

372 Don't Girl Scouts have some association with planned parenthood? Like that's one if their charities? Don't know just asking cause I heard it somewhere.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 06:39 PM (qPCAa)

373

Someone with computer skilz needs to go over to huffpo and screen cap the comments there on the Oklahoma coverage. Disgusting.

Posted by: Bosk at May 20, 2013 06:39 PM (QkFee)

374 >>>I have homemade chocolate chip cookies in the freezer and an oven that doesn't work. Toaster? Bic lighter? Top of a hot air cleaner?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 06:39 PM (4Mv1T)

375 358

Michelle Bachmann?

Posted by: burper at May 20, 2013 06:39 PM (Jd21E)

376 312 I'll agree that people are happiest living with those most like.themselves---but I don't think ethnicity is what makes me "most like" the people I'm happiest living with.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 20, 2013 06:40 PM (GmTxn)

377 Samoan be offended by a delicious cookie? Serious, you guys Posted by: thunderb
------------

Local high school was visited and threatened by the Clinton Justice Dept. (Bill Lan Lee) . The team name was 'The Warriors', and mascot was a war-painted Cherokee. Threaten with lawsuit, they changed names, because PC.

At the time, just as a matter of interest, I checked Sam Daschle's home state of SD, found 26 school teams named 'Warriors'. Why here? Our Congressman was a thorn in Clinton's side. That's what happens when totalitarians take control. Early, small example of what is happening now.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:40 PM (aDwsi)

378 361 I have homemade chocolate chip cookies in the freezer and an oven that doesn't work. Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2013 10:38 PM (Ppc6W) Dude... Bogus. You don't have neighbors?

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 06:40 PM (qPCAa)

379

in Jersey they were Caramel Delights, same cookie

guess a lot of pissed off Samoans in central Jersey

maybe Christie, dunno

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:40 PM (nH8jP)

380

>>I would trade my kid for a box of frozen thin mints

Careful.

Roman Polanski posts here.

Pretty sure there's half a case of thin mints in the bin freezer over at my parents place.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2013 06:40 PM (Ppc6W)

381 Don't Girl Scouts have some association with planned parenthood? Like that's one if their charities? Don't know just asking cause I heard it somewhere. Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 10:39 PM (qPCAa)

They deny it.

But then they can't explain where they get all their SexEd materials for troop meetings.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:40 PM (SpGmP)

382 http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3385670/

Fighting evil by moonlight, finding love by daylight.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 06:41 PM (d0bTF)

383 Every time I see a picture of Ghandi I think, I bet that guy stank like a monkey

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 20, 2013 06:41 PM (8sCoq)

384 Getting way too sleepy, Horde. Heading off to bed to dream of gorgeous gingers who feed me Sonic milkshakes. Happy trails.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 20, 2013 06:41 PM (5J54Q)

385 I have multiple boxes of thin mints in my freezer right now. And more all over the house. I did a kind deed for a Girl Scout troop and they thanked me in thin mints. But, I won't be trading them for navycopjoe's daughter because I am under strict orders to keep my son and his daughter away from each other.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 06:41 PM (RZ8pf)

386 I'll agree that people are happiest living with those most like.themselves---but I don't think ethnicity is what makes me "most like" the people I'm happiest living with. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 20, 2013 10:40 PM (GmTxn) ^^this

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:41 PM (Y993C)

387

I'm lovin' the CVX thing, because I love Chevron. I plunked some money into 3 stocks about 8 yrs ago, and not only has it done the best, but it's dividend is pretty nice, and increases at a very rapid clip. I don't pay enough attention, but I get the impression that they're especially innovative in finding oil. They also do the most geothermal, IIRC, which seems to make sense in certain applications, vs the usual uneconomical eco-Nazi nonsense.

In contrast, my ConocoPhillips has been more restrained. That's partly because Hugo Chavez stole some of my assets a few years back (the other guys were smarter about it). Then they invested a lot with the Ruskies in NatGas, before the big finds in the US that made the price plummet. Lastly, I saw quotes where the CEO was spewing eco-nonsense, which is unforgiveable. At least they spun of PSX for me, which has doubled in less than a year.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 20, 2013 06:41 PM (Mxt9o)

388 Reflected = reelected Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 20, 2013 10:32 PM (DoZD+) Some mood music: Alice Cooper's "Reflected" vs. Alice Cooper's "Elected" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JvaQaVE0nE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyCFGDzc45o

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 06:41 PM (Vk2pI)

389 102 I've never given a dime to the Red Cross, in honor of my father. There he was in Germany in WWII, earning a Presidential Citation for Remagen, in the field for weeks on end. ... Posted by: ajgrennanmsc@gmail.com at May 20, 2013 09:41 PM (kQUFE) Related but OT. I was a huge WWII buff growing up, and I had a book that discussed Remagen. I got a lifelong dream come true by accident a few years ago while in Europe on business. I was driving up the east side lower Rhine on my way to Amsterdam when I came across a couple of big old bridge piers and a couple of "Castles" looking across the river at each other. It was dusk, and while the "castle" on the east side was dark, there were lights on in the one on the west bank. Long story short, it was the Remagen bridge, and I spent a half a day in the museum on the west bank of the Rhine. None of the Europeans could understand my excitement at my find and adventure.

Posted by: Goldstein says, Remagen at May 20, 2013 06:41 PM (eQnzo)

390 "Can those Keebler elves get on making a substitute for the peanut butter sandwich cookies?"

Already have, can't remember what they call them, but they have them. Also Samoas counterfeits.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 06:42 PM (Fz2C7)

391 366. I let it go Hands are washed 371. I think most of our rage meters need a break

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:42 PM (fmjNz)

392 Happy trails. Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at May 20, 2013 10:41 PM (5J54Q) I oughtta be chasing down a happy trail myself, come to think of it!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 06:42 PM (zrlmb)

393 In 'Doomed', John Derbyshire has an entire chapter devoted to the loss of social capital that has come with 'Diversity'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:42 PM (aDwsi)

394 Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 10:40 PM (SpGmP) Not sure whether to laugh or cry at that. American heritage girls was recommended to me as a good alternative.

Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 06:43 PM (qPCAa)

395 C'mon people, It doesn't matter that Obama and Valerie Jarret, Jamie Gorelick and a host of Obama -ites swore VENGEANCE if they ended up winning the election, neither does it matter that they bold faced carried it out. Evidence is immaterial ! irrelevant, Irrevelant, IRREVELANT ! What matters is demorats control the language and until they decide what the meaning of is is, you have nothing to hold them accountable for. For a reality check, who do you think is going to prosecute Obama when his stooges, yes i said STOOGES run everything, thanks to voter STUPIDITY AT ELECTION TIMES. slick willys legacy lives on ! and so does demorat stupidity and betrayal and WHY ? Death to America, muslim dreams of his father, brought to you by the demorat party, Obama, and George Soros. CONSEQUENCES ARE HERE !

Posted by: ron n. at May 20, 2013 06:43 PM (6fvl0)

396 In 'Doomed', John Derbyshire has an entire chapter devoted to the loss of social capital that has come with 'Diversity'. Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 10:42 PM (aDwsi) Derbyshire is dead to me after that infamous post.

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:43 PM (Y993C)

397 OK, I'm out, "responsible adult", and all that shit tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 20, 2013 06:43 PM (JMmQ9)

398 American heritage girls was recommended to me as a good alternative.

Concur

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:44 PM (SpGmP)

399

a Beiber troll?

wow

I did not see that coming.

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:44 PM (nH8jP)

400 Every time I see a picture of Ghandi I think, I bet that guy stank like a monkey Posted by: Jones in CO at May 20, 2013 10:41 PM (8sCoq) I think he kept his dentures in his loin cloth, if'n I remember

Posted by: Jake in ID at May 20, 2013 06:44 PM (zzeVM)

401 OK....I'm out.

Today was hell day and another one coming tomorrow.

Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 20, 2013 06:44 PM (SpGmP)

402 Re: Umbrella-gate. Having enlisted guy hold umbrella for you--unacceptable. Having aide de camp do it--job description. Those who are part of the club will understand. Those who aren't, won't.

Posted by: "Admiral Byrd" at May 20, 2013 06:45 PM (eOdMc)

403 http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3385670/ Fighting evil by moonlight, finding love by daylight. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 10:41 PM (d0bTF) A NSFW retort: http://tinyurl.com/lpky9so

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at May 20, 2013 06:45 PM (Vk2pI)

404 383. Yeppers, 10 miles I believe And that's cold hearted Don't taunt the skinny guy

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:45 PM (E8hSa)

405 oh, maybe my grocery store doesn't sell the peanut butter ones because I was desperate for some this weekend.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 06:45 PM (RZ8pf)

406 Just curious. Can someone define 'diversity' for me?

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 06:45 PM (IyxzF)

407 Hey, love monkeys! How was *your* Monday?

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 06:45 PM (8lmkt)

408 Can someone define 'diversity' for me?

I think it means no honkies.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 06:46 PM (8lmkt)

409 368 MÃƒÂ¦tenloch This is why your party loses. You can't accept the fact people of different backgrounds can get along and live in a community. America is leaving you behind and all you have is this blog to bitch about.

Posted by: Don't lie at May 20, 2013 06:46 PM (xF8Ms)

410 It was Discovery ID episode about this journalist in Oakland getting his head blown off by shotgun. And this other guy was talking about how great Oakland was with diversity. As he rattled off his neighbors by ethnicity all I could hear was Archie Bunker's voice.

Diversity allows racist people to be bigots while pretending otherwise.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 06:46 PM (d0bTF)

411

tyranny and tornadoes

typical Monday

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:46 PM (nH8jP)

412 400 Just curious. Can someone define 'diversity' for me?
Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 10:45 PM (IyxzF) Lack of whiteness.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 20, 2013 06:46 PM (IknLN)

413 Can someone define 'diversity' for me? Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 10:45 PM (IyxzF) Its a function on Photoshop:OutrageouslyExpensiveand99%whiteLiberalLiberalArts College Pamphlet edition

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:47 PM (Y993C)

414 I watched the Moore tornado on TWC as it was happening from beginning to end. I was praying that it was going over empty fields but when they said it was going through heavily populated area I felt like I was watching a passenger airliner crash.

One heartbreaking piece of news is that several of the kids in the school made it into the basement but the heavy rain flooded the space and it looks like they drowned

It's really sickening to see the rush to politicize this tragedy, what the hell is wrong with people? Do they think they score political points by being hack assholes? I really fear for our country when there seems to be nothing above "winning one for my team". Unfortunately a well known conservative blogger and analyst couldn't help himself either

BTW, our own Gabriel Malor is originally from OKC and he's a bit worried about folks in the area. I believe that Genghis has folks there and also rdbrewer

The people of Oklahoma have been through this many times and they always bounce right back. They really are "STRONG"

Posted by: kbdabear at May 20, 2013 06:47 PM (mCvL4)

415 260 On behalf of my family, thanks for your well wishes. I've been out pulling rubble off houses in my area since I heard the news. Amazingly the tornado took a path just south of my house, but a lot of my neighbors lost houses, children and pets to this deviation. Kiss your kids tonight folks; ill live a thousand years and not be able to convey the utter helplessness I felt as I watched this thing destroy everything around my children's elementary school. They made it out unscathed, but many of our friends lost everything. Going back to do what I can. Thanks again for what you do here. Posted by: Veritas at May 20, 2013 10:26 PM (8k3Ow) http://minx.cc/?post=340172 John E's thead is still very much alive.

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at May 20, 2013 06:47 PM (/b8+5)

416 Isn't Gabe from Oklahoma? Anyone know if he still has family there?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 06:47 PM (X6akg)

417 400---leftist bizarro world definition or actual definition?

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 20, 2013 06:47 PM (GmTxn)

418 I don't care where anyone is from. I don't want immigrants who just want to be IN America. I want people who want to BE Americans and all the liberty-lovin that entails.

Posted by: irright at May 20, 2013 06:47 PM (DtNNC)

419 So Corrupt That, Admit It, You're Already Forgetting About Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Kermet Gosnell, and Ariel Castro.

Posted by: Democrats 2013 at May 20, 2013 06:47 PM (FcR7P)

420 400 Just curious. Can someone define 'diversity' for me? *Looking in handy book* Lets see here, "diversity" is a room filled with people of all creeds, all spouting the same lib-prog garbage for "the greater good".

Posted by: Thrawn at May 20, 2013 06:47 PM (JqnAE)

421 Capn Whitebread, glad the tornado missed your house

there's a fair amount of tree debris scattered around the city here

Posted by: chemjeff at May 20, 2013 06:47 PM (BBWjt)

422 389. Okay then Feel better

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:47 PM (E8hSa)

423 OT, but I srsly can't believe it is taking soooooo long to drink myself to death. It's not like I haven't tried my damnedest.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 06:48 PM (8lmkt)

424

On the Crowley thing, I looked it up at the time, and Obama did make reference to "acts of terror". That being said, it was ambiguous as to which acts he was specifically speaking. Prior to that part he had spoken of the original 9/11, which multiple attacks itself, and Benghazi. The context did not tell me whether he was speaking of one, the other, or both.

Regardless, nobody came away from that speech saying,. "Holy shit, terrorists attacked our consulate in Bengazi!" It's totally dishonest (shocka!) to go back and claim that that he had said it all along. Romney missed a real opportunity to tear Obama a new one, but he was (understandably?) confused and let two girls gang up on him.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 20, 2013 06:48 PM (Mxt9o)

425 Just curious. Can someone define 'diversity' for me? Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 10:45 PM (IyxzF)/i] This --> http://tinyurl.com/k3fr6st

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 06:48 PM (Vk2pI)

426 398 Navycopjoe Look at how these Republicans treat you with no respect. Join the Democrats, we will treat you as a human.

Posted by: Don't lie at May 20, 2013 06:48 PM (xF8Ms)

427

oh that monkeys reminded me of the last episode of Chicago Fire I watched where the russian guy thought his cousin was going to bring a monkey to the opening of their bar. What she meant was the Stanley Cup. It was weird.

Yeah, yeah, NBC, shoot me I watched a show on NBC. But that one firefighter is really delicious looking.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 20, 2013 06:48 PM (RZ8pf)

428 You know TPH we need to drag you to an anime con where Church of the Sub-Genius is having a gig. Then marry you for 24 hours to some Sailor Scout.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 06:48 PM (d0bTF)

429 Just curious. Can someone define 'diversity' for me? Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 10:45 PM (IyxzF) Sure. Imagine a conference table, seated at which are a male female gay straight asian white black hispanic american indian young old all in complete agreement

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 20, 2013 06:48 PM (8sCoq)

430 Posted by: Don't lie at May 20, 2013 10:46 PM (xF8Ms) Fuck off and die, asshole. You'd walk across the street to avoid my wife on a dark street, I guarantee it. Oh and seriously- quit stuffing your hamster in your mom and sister's vag like a furry doubledong dildo. That' shit's nasty. *zzzz*

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:48 PM (Y993C)

431 As an alternative to Girl Scouts, if you are Catholic, check out the Catholic Daughters of America. Also a Junior division. Scholarships, too.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at May 20, 2013 06:49 PM (Sptt8)

432 Politicians only can exploit tribal tendencies when there are real tribal differences to exploit. Look at how countries split up. #1 reason is linguistic. People who don't share a language very often don't want to share a country. #2 is religious. People don't like being ruled by somebody with a different religion than them. #3 is ethnic. People prefer to be ruled by someone who looks like them. The average person prefers to be ruled by people who speak the same language, believe in the same god, and share the same ethnicity. It's about trust. People trust other people who are like themselves. Linguistic, religious, and ethnic diversity reduce that trust. Other factors can try to overcome that. But it's hard. And the greater the differences the harder it gets.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 06:49 PM (ZPrif)

433

hahahahah

NavyCopJoe is a democrat!

*right?*

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:49 PM (nH8jP)

434 I am abruptly reminded that tonight is the night to put the garbage out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:50 PM (aDwsi)

435 I was only half serious. And I got some expected answers, but really? What does it mean? Why is it good? From my service years, diversity in the fireroom meant dead people. So what does it mean?

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 06:50 PM (IyxzF)

436 >NavyCopJoe is a democrat! *right?* well, he DOES live in Hawaii, IIRC

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 20, 2013 06:50 PM (8sCoq)

437 That Chive link for me was like an alkie taking a tour of a distillery.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 20, 2013 06:50 PM (cnmE6)

438 burper is full of gas

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:50 PM (nH8jP)

439 my children's elementary school. They made it out unscathed, but many of our friends lost everything.

lots of prayers going up for you tonight, friend. just from the moron horde. this is heartbreaking.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 06:50 PM (8lmkt)

440 Anyone have Jane D'oh's e-mail?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 06:50 PM (O6Tmi)

441 "NavyCopJoe is a democrat!

*right?*

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 10:49 PM (nH8jP)"

I think he does claim to still belong to that party.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 06:51 PM (Fz2C7)

442 While Mike takes his garbage out, his companion cat will take over the keyboard.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 06:51 PM (d0bTF)

443 Lets see here, "diversity" is a room filled with people of all creeds, all spouting the same lib-prog garbage for "the greater good". Posted by: Thrawn
---------

Seeking the lowest common denominator.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:51 PM (aDwsi)

444

Chive mind

like hive mind only pervy

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:51 PM (nH8jP)

445 Posted by: Snarky the Bear at May 20, 2013 08:16 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, at May 20, 2013 10:00 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Snarky the Bear at May 20, 2013 10:47 PM (/b8+5)

Maetenloch....can you please tell her AGAIN to stop doing this? It's annoying as hell and serves no purpose.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 06:51 PM (X6akg)

446 Diversity is being able to choose, non-threateningly, from many different types of Girl Scout cookies or, if you're into alternative lifestyles, Keebler knockoffs. THAT'S diversity, friends

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 20, 2013 06:51 PM (XvrTA)

447 Peaches- I wonder the same thing myself. When my pancreas tried to pop last summer, I realized that we aren't bullet proof anymore. I take a few days off every now and then, just to remind myself I can.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 06:52 PM (4Mv1T)

448 432 Anyone have Jane D'oh's e-mail?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 10:50 PM (O6Tmi)

I do...want me to send it to nynjmeetup addy?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 06:52 PM (X6akg)

449 >Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 10:50 PM (IyxzF) I believe that 'diversity' flies directly in the face of E Pluribus Unum

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 20, 2013 06:52 PM (8sCoq)

450 Peaches. Prayers. Your house OK? Friends? Family?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 06:52 PM (aDwsi)

451 NavyCopJoe is a democrat!

He has said it right here and I have read it. Although, since he's a Cubs fan, it's not actually the most embarrassing thing about him.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 06:52 PM (8lmkt)

452 Just wanted to chime in to put in a good word for the Salvation Army when it comes to donations for OK. Unlike the Red Cross, they don't have a highly paid administrative staff to support, so your donation $ goes further. (my understanding, anyway. I hope someone'll put me to some knowledge if I'm wrong.)

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at May 20, 2013 06:52 PM (jxoDh)

453

diversity is diversity of everything single thing,

except opinion

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:52 PM (nH8jP)

454 430 I was only half serious. And I got some expected answers, but really? What does it mean? Why is it good? From my service years, diversity in the fireroom meant dead people. So what does it mean? Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 10:50 PM (IyxzF) Americans and those who chose to emigrate here were better off when we used the example of a melting pot. Those who emigrated wanted nothing more than to blend in and have their children blend in. Those emigrating now don't seem to want to blend in, they seem to want to make their fortune here, not become a citizen and go back to their original country. They love he quilt idea, where all the squares are different but form one quilt. The melting pot is better, more inclusive. With the quilt you can reject a square.

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at May 20, 2013 06:53 PM (/b8+5)

455

Oddly, the 100% Mexican border towns in Mexico are pretty high in crime and corruption. And, no, I wouldn't say that the ethnically homogenous Rio Grande Valley is low in crime and corruption on this side of the border El Paso is, but that's a much bally-hooed anomaly.

The relatively low crime has less to do with homogeneity and more to do with a large law enforcement presence and a desire by the cartels to avoid drawing attention to their operations.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 06:53 PM (lr3d7)

456 420. Dumbass I AM A DEMOCRAT And I'm running for the house H-1 seat Respect is earned Serving the people is an honor

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:53 PM (E8hSa)

457 Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at May 20, 2013 10:45 PM (Vk2pI)

1,4,2,3,5

Posted by: Country Singer at May 20, 2013 06:54 PM (cnmE6)

458 I take a few days off every now and then, just to remind myself I can.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 10:52 PM (4Mv1T)

My pancreas has yet to find its voice, so I don't take days off, I continue to train assiduously.

And, Mike, I'm in El Lay. While your prayers would not go amiss, I think the good folks of Oklahoma would be better served.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 06:54 PM (8lmkt)

459

NCJ was raised in Chicago ( Boystown, I think) .

He's a lifer.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2013 06:54 PM (cxoKi)

460 You know TPH we need to drag you to an anime con where Church of the Sub-Genius is having a gig. Then marry you for 24 hours to some Sailor Scout. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 10:48 PM (d0bTF) Do you get to choose or are you randomly assigned. Also, are the "Sailor Scouts" actually 300 lbs. grown men?

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at May 20, 2013 06:55 PM (Vk2pI)

461 When you see what cars look like after a tornado goes through, you know why they tell you not to use your car as a shelter or try to outrun the tornado

Posted by: kbdabear at May 20, 2013 06:55 PM (mCvL4)

462 390 Derbyshire is dead to me after that infamous post. Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 10:43 PM (Y993C) What post was that?

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2013 06:55 PM (sdi6R)

463 443. Wow Just wow Do I make fun of Brady and the patriots? Oh wait....

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:55 PM (E8hSa)

464 I don't have a solution. Brazil has a lot of ethnic diversity -- but little linguistic or religious diversity. Brazil has a very high violent crime rate and is much more corrupt than the US. I think we'll become more like Brazil. I think the English language melting pot still works -- though slower than it used to, much slower for Mexican immigrants. There's good data on English fluency. Mexican and Chinese immigrants have the most trouble. But by the 3rd gen Mexican immigrants fall far behind other groups -- because there are such large Mexican populations and ethno-linguistic enclaves. I think Brazil is a likely future for the US. More violent, more corrupt, more socialist. We have some unique aspects of course. The large scale of South Asian immigration will be interesting to see what effect that has.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 06:55 PM (ZPrif)

465 448 Navycopjoe You are on the winning team!

Posted by: Welcome at May 20, 2013 06:55 PM (qqR96)

466 Country Singer.... 1 being bottom and 5 being best?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 06:55 PM (d0bTF)

467

we got Navy Cop Joe

that's diversity

big tent

outreach

serious, you guys

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 06:55 PM (nH8jP)

468 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 10:49 PM (ZPrif) Except for one thing: you're wrong.

Posted by: eman at May 20, 2013 06:56 PM (SXsuy)

469 OT, but I srsly can't believe it is taking soooooo long to drink myself to death. It's not like I haven't tried my damnedest. Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 10:48 PM You and me, Sister.

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 20, 2013 06:56 PM (JMmQ9)

470 1,4,2,3,5

Firing order for one of those weird audi engines?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 20, 2013 06:56 PM (jGsIV)

471 Posted by: Tami at May 20, 2013 10:51 PM (X6akg)

You're just jealous because you aren't young and beautiful and rich and brilliant and have lots of young and rich friends who live in NEW YORK CITY!

[although....as a Moronette, you are, by default, young and beautiful with a smokin' body and a face to match]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 06:56 PM (O6Tmi)

472 Just wanted to chime in to put in a good word for the Salvation Army when it comes to donations for OK.

Salvation Army is THE BEST at this stuff. Thank you so much, chi, for posting that. I'm gonna go over right now and send 'em some money.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 06:56 PM (8lmkt)

473 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 10:55 PM (d0bTF)

No, order of preference.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 20, 2013 06:56 PM (cnmE6)

474 What an utterly dreadful day...those poor folks in OK, and these CRIMES being committed by our government!! Am beside myself. And would someone please kick the ever lovin' shit out of that troll, because I have zero patience for these evil f'ing Â€Â£}%Â¥!

Posted by: Mrs Mittens at May 20, 2013 06:57 PM (1VA3B)

475 447 Yeah, kind of my point. Actually, El Paso's low crime rate (relative to its size, location and demographic factors like young population) is the subject of a lot of speculation. I'm in the lithium-in-the-water camp. *sips imported bottled water*

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at May 20, 2013 06:57 PM (GmTxn)

476 As far as I know they were never ever able to get Thag to don a fuku at A-kon so the 300lb option should be off the table. Unless your counter points in that direction....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 06:57 PM (d0bTF)

477 BTW, am I the only one who's contemplating the idea that President Talk Show has some, shall we say "unsavory," help in the spiritual dimension? I wanna be rational and all, but it's positively uncanny the way Mother Nature comes to his rescue when politics turns against him. *adjusts tin foil hat*

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at May 20, 2013 06:57 PM (jxoDh)

478 Brazil has their amazon tribes, of course, but those are tiny in # and not any threat to the nation.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 06:57 PM (ZPrif)

479 So much for the golden future, I can't even start
I've had every promise broken, there's anger in my heart
You don't know what its like, you don't have a clue
If you did you'd find yourselves doing the same thing too

Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law

You don't know what its like

Posted by: Obama Steal at May 20, 2013 06:58 PM (e8kgV)

480 Do I make fun of Brady and the patriots? Oh wait....

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 10:55 PM (E8hSa)

Sometimes, in a weak and ineffectual way . . .

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 06:58 PM (8lmkt)

481 Okay folks. Be safe and sleep sound. I'm out.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 20, 2013 06:58 PM (4Mv1T)

482 razil has their amazon tribes, of course, but those are tiny in # and not any threat to the nation. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 10:57 PM (ZPrif) They were the nation before the Portuguese got there. All I know about Brazil is this: it's capitol is a hell hole modernist nightmare.

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 06:58 PM (Y993C)

483 The 'melting pot' and 'fireroom' metaphors are close to what I'm getting at. Either the term is a non-word like 'alternative' (used to draw attention away from 'perverse') or it has a real referent that we can point to. Or maybe not? Hmmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 06:59 PM (IyxzF)

484 Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2013 10:55 PM (sdi6R)

Derb extrapolated his experience (or his assumptions) with inner city Blacks to all Blacks.

He had a small point, but he went overboard, and did exactly what the Dems do all the time -- assume that statistics describe individuals.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 06:59 PM (O6Tmi)

485 459. Only cause you guys have Teh SARAH!!!! Damn you Todd Palin

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 06:59 PM (E8hSa)

486 [although....as a Moronette, you are, by default, young and beautiful with a smokin' body and a face to match]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 10:56 PM (O6Tmi)

I love defaults!

Do you want me to send you Jane's e-mail to nynjmeetup addy?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 06:59 PM (X6akg)

487 Derbyshire is dead to me after that infamous post. Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 10:43 PM (Y993C) What post was that? Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2013 10:55 PM (sdi6R) It was his "The Talk" article over at Taki's. National Review dumped him like a rock in the ocean.

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 06:59 PM (Vk2pI)

488 *blinks at Country Singer, Blanco, and TPH*

And people think I am the crazy one when I complain to Buaku that humans make no sense.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 06:59 PM (d0bTF)

489 Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 10:58 PM (Y993C)

And the chicks are hot.

Get your priorities straight!

Ass before art!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 07:00 PM (O6Tmi)

490 Good Lord.
http://tinyurl.com/lft5bql
That twister was Armageddon.
But, sadly, as I scroll down the page, looking at those pictures, especially about halfway down where the teacher in the red shirt is hugging the little boy in the blue shirt. I keep thinking of something that the President said, before he was elected the first time.

"White folks greed drives a world in need."

I really despise the people who put that man there.

Posted by: MikeB at May 20, 2013 07:00 PM (8Ik17)

491 Oh, OK. I agreed with that completely.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2013 07:00 PM (sdi6R)

492 Posted by: Tami at May 20, 2013 10:59 PM (X6akg)

Yes, please.

Nevergiveup is looking for it. I think because he is heading down to Parris Island.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 07:01 PM (O6Tmi)

493 From the SA twitter feed: a text of STORM to 80888 will send $10 to the Salvation Army (90999 is the Red Cross #). Can't find a confirming web link yet though.

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at May 20, 2013 07:02 PM (jxoDh)

494 And the chicks are hot. Get your priorities straight! Ass before art! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 11:00 PM (O6Tmi) no. boobs. boobs before art, or best of all, boobs as art. Good in any dimension. Even one filled with arugula.

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 07:02 PM (Y993C)

495 Ah! That overweening imperialist bastard Hammer walked away from the keyboard, leaving the ONT up. Stupid hairless ape. Bwahahaha. Howabout a little cat pooh on the keyboard Mikey? As for the rest of you, I feel a hairball coming up... gaaaagha...., gaaaagha........guwache....

Posted by: Toby The Cat at May 20, 2013 07:02 PM (aDwsi)

496 So much for the golden future, I can't even start I've had every promise broken, there's anger in my heart You don't know what its like, you don't have a clue If you did you'd find yourselves doing the same thing too Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law You don't know what its like Posted by: Obama Steal at May 20, 2013 10:58 PM (e8kgV) \m/ \m/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU Interesting thing about the video for that song. The actors in the bank thought that they were doing an actual bank commerical. So, when Judas Priest burst through the doors to "rob" the place, the actors stood there completely dumbfounded and confused...

Posted by: \m/ The Political Hat \m/ at May 20, 2013 07:02 PM (Vk2pI)

497 I really despise the people who put that man there.

Posted by: MikeB at May 20, 2013 11:00 PM (8Ik17)

Yes.

But the people of Oklahoma will prove him wrong....spectacularly so.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 07:02 PM (O6Tmi)

498 Nevergiveup is looking for it. I think because he is heading down to Parris Island.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 11:01 PM (O6Tmi)

Ok, done.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 07:02 PM (X6akg)

499 The global warming cult went right to opening their pieholes even though tornadoes have been part of the American landscape since man first appeared on the continent.

This year had seen a record low occurrence of tornadic activity due to the cold spring

But they never miss a chance to try to scare you into socialism

Posted by: kbdabear at May 20, 2013 07:03 PM (mCvL4)

500 Don't Girl Scouts have some association with planned parenthood? Like that's one if their charities? Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 20, 2013 10:39 PM (qPCAa) You heard correctly. The modern Girl Scouts are all about being progressive. *spit*

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at May 20, 2013 07:04 PM (jxoDh)

501 https://donate.salvationarmyusa.org/uss/eds/aok

here you go, my darlins . . . we are all so lucky tonight compared to those folks in Oklahoma who had their lives ripped up. i just paid my bills today, so I hit 'em hard.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 07:05 PM (8lmkt)

502

I do not even want to think about an arugula filled boobs *shudder*

night

be safe OK and TX morons

Posted by: thunderb at May 20, 2013 07:05 PM (nH8jP)

503 Hey, all. Been scramblin' today.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 20, 2013 07:07 PM (tyF2+)

504

Yeah, kind of my point. Actually, El Paso's low crime rate (relative to its size, location and demographic factors like young population) is the subject of a lot of speculation. I'm in the lithium-in-the-water camp.

*sips imported bottled water*

Talking to El Paso Cops as well as some people who worked in intelligence in the area, the general consensus was that the influx of border patrol agents blocked the illegals coming over to break into houses while the cartels kept the local gangs in check. I think that El Paso's incestuous nature helped as well. Most everyone who lives there was born there. They move around the city as they go through life, but it's not like other big cities where you have an influx of young people moving in from elsewhere.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 20, 2013 07:08 PM (lr3d7)

505 so apparently the view on the unhinged left is that because Inhofe and Coburn complained about wasteful spending in Sandy relief aid, therefore, the people of Oklahoma can just ESAD

it's pretty disgusting

Posted by: chemjeff at May 20, 2013 07:08 PM (BBWjt)

506 Most people seem to use "diversity" as a synonym for non-white. The NBA is called diverse even though it's not at all. It's 90% American black dudes. American whites, hispanics, and asians are all insanely under-represented -- while blacks are vastly over-represented. I've seen people refer to an all-black team as "diverse". Meanwhile an NHL team with 20+ "white" guys from 10 different countries with 12 different native languages is smeared as non-diverse and just some white guys. MLB is the league that most "looks like America" to borrow a Clinton phrase. Yet MLB is routinely berated for not having enough black players -- even though the black % in MLB is above the national avg. Of course, about half the black players in MLB are caribbean and not native-born.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 07:08 PM (ZPrif)

507 That is a bit scary to contemplate. This was taken at Project A-kon 15. Which means little Sailor Mercury is not so little anymore.
http://tinyurl.com/mgbfwfh

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 07:08 PM (d0bTF)

508 if he wasn't a serial killer, Norman Bates would be quite the pussy magnet on Bates Motel

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 07:09 PM (vJdyz)

509 All I know about Brazil is this: it's capitol is a hell hole modernist nightmare. Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 10:58 PM (Y993C) That pretty much sums up most of the post-WWII/post-Colonial world where pointy-headed intellectuals with a globalist and socialist bent tried to turn them into socialist utopias. I remember an old article called "the tale of two cities" that compared Hong Kong with the capital of some West African country (don't remember the details, might have been Togo, Benin, or Ghana). At the time of the West African nations independence, both it and Hong Kong had similar per capita income. The former received aid and central planning with U.N. help; the later had only the limited government & rule of law ethos of Britain. If people back then could have bet on which country would prosper and which one would have floundered, most would have bet on the West African nation doing well because they were guided by the "scientific" principles of the soft socialists. Unsurprisingly to us, the "guidance" and aid resulted in kleptocracies, war, and poverty, while the later became so prosperous that even Communist China wouldn't interfer with its free-market ways.

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 07:10 PM (Vk2pI)

510 The NBA is called diverse even though it's not at all. It's 90% American black dudes. American whites, hispanics, and asians are all insanely under-represented -- while blacks are vastly over-represented.

I'm sorry, but how many whites, hispanics and asians do you personally know who can play basketball on a pro level? You want to talk about the current administration {spits}, then we have some red meat, but the nba, ninja, please . . .

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 07:11 PM (8lmkt)

511 Peaches, thank you for that link
I just put some bucks down

Posted by: chemjeff at May 20, 2013 07:11 PM (BBWjt)

512 483 Oh, OK. I agreed with that completely. Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2013 11:00 PM (sdi6R) I mean I agree with Derbyshire completely.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2013 07:12 PM (sdi6R)

513 Can someone define 'diversity' for me?

Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, Stalinists, Maoists, Trotskyites...there's a whole rainbow of thought.

O_o

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at May 20, 2013 07:12 PM (hO8IJ)

514 I'm trying to decide what party I will become a member of.

The Republicans which seem to have good ideas but can't seem to not step on their own dicks in putting them forward.

The Dems Who just buy votes and leave a wake of destruction in all the areas they say their going to help.

Or maybe the Manson Family that was similar to the Dems but just more brutally honest.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 07:13 PM (qo244)

515 Hey Cthulhu!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 07:13 PM (d0bTF)

516 Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 11:02 PM (Y993C)

1. Boobs are art. And they were art before the first man drew on the wall of a cave.

2. I will cheerfully argue the "Ass or Boobs" point with you (hopefully to my dying day)

3. The larger point of food and sex as part of the same continuum is complicated, but you and I probably agree.

Here is a link to a photo that makes both ass and boobs art!

[insert photo of a nude Carla Bruni -- I CAN"T FIND IT!]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 07:14 PM (O6Tmi)

517 First of allow me to apologize for being even half-serious on the ONT. Having said that, Flatbush you hit the nail. Diverse means 'black' (although that is widening) but ask Lib's, LIV's or any number of other non-thinkers what it means alls you get is, well, BS. In other words it means nothing.

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 07:15 PM (IyxzF)

518

Vote Charlie!

"Because no sense, makes sense"

Posted by: charles manson at May 20, 2013 07:15 PM (9gNQd)

519 I have been to Easter ceremonies in Brazil you would swear were in Bravaria

Posted by: Jean at May 20, 2013 07:16 PM (CMlD4)

520 Ok, done.

Posted by: Tami at May 20, 2013 11:02 PM (X6akg)

Didn't get it.

nynjmeet at optimum dot net

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 07:16 PM (O6Tmi)

521

I will cheerfully argue the "Ass or Boobs" point with you (hopefully to my dying day)

yes

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura highway at May 20, 2013 07:16 PM (/7Xis)

522 Tuxedo Mask seems to be getting friendly with Sailor Mars here. Or vice versa.
http://tinyurl.com/mckqgu2

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 07:17 PM (d0bTF)

523 huh? you missed my point. my point is just that the NBA isn't very "diverse", yet routinely is called so. I'm not saying it's due to any bias on the part of the NBA. The white % has gone down in the NBA over recent decades as the top white athlete kids are steered away from basketball at a young age -- the parents and even the kids often believing they can't make it to the NBA. That's one reason you see so many 6'4, 6'5 white MLB pitchers nowadays. 40 years ago a tall athletic kid like that would be on the basketball team. Now the kid is steered towards being a pitcher, QB, or tight end at a young age. The family logic is why top out as a division 1 college player in basketball when you could have better odds to make millions in pro baseball instead.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 07:17 PM (ZPrif)

524 Daily Mail has some very dramatic photos from Moore Ok http://is.gd/83RzM1

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 20, 2013 07:19 PM (8sCoq)

525 Sorry. I didn't think I missed the point. NBA teams are 'called' diverse because they are predominantly black. Thus diverse=black.

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 07:19 PM (IyxzF)

526 Flatbrush, I thought it was when they decided to stop enforcing travelling

Posted by: Jean at May 20, 2013 07:22 PM (CMlD4)

527 University is the opposite of diversity.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2013 07:22 PM (mGBy8)

528 Not trying to kick sand here. It's just that the NBA is kind of based on who is good at what they do. Which I love. It's just like hockey or golf or any other merit-based endeavor. If black people are better at it then, hell yeah, I would rather watch them.

Eric Holder . . . sure, he's the absolute bestest AG ever in the whole universe. /s

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 07:22 PM (8lmkt)

529 261 Ghandi was really fortunate that his opponents were the British. I don't think he would fare as well against the commies.

Had the British not beaten back the Japenese during WWII, Ghandi's views of pacifism would have floated down the Ganges along with his head.

Posted by: puddleglum at May 20, 2013 07:23 PM (VuS9i)

530 Here is a link to a photo that makes both ass and boobs art! [insert photo of a nude Carla Bruni -- I CAN"T FIND IT!] Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 11:14 PM (O6Tmi) The slightly pervy but smart move would have been to say "my wife makes them art"

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 07:23 PM (Y993C)

531 Daily Mail has some very dramatic photos from Moore Ok

again, here's the link to the Salvation Army donation page. They are all over this shit and they have been since yesterday.

https://donate.salvationarmyusa.org/uss/eds/aok

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 07:24 PM (8lmkt)

532 To expand; see above references to diverse=non-white. I wondered why we started using the term to describe that situation sinc obviously it doesn't mean what we think it means. See: Orwell, George.

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 07:25 PM (IyxzF)

533 I'm sorry, but how many whites, hispanics and asians do you personally know who can play basketball on a pro level? You want to talk about the current administration {spits}, then we have some red meat, but the nba, ninja, please . . . Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 11:11 PM (8lmkt) And that is the fair way to do it. But it's a rare large business that gets to play by the same rules. I know from personal first hand experience that if your engineers are all male, and mostly Asian, you WILL be investigated by the EEO or whatever the hell it's called, and you better have some ovarian representation, and some black folks and some Hispanics tout suite regardless if they are as qualified as the Asian whose resume you liked the best.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 07:25 PM (zrlmb)

534 That's one reason you see so many 6'4, 6'5 white MLB pitchers nowadays. 40 years ago a tall athletic kid like that would be on the basketball team. Now the kid is steered towards being a pitcher, QB, or tight end at a young age.

The family logic is why top out as a division 1 college player in basketball when you could have better odds to make millions in pro baseball instead.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 11:17 PM (ZPrif)>>

Another reason is Basketball dosen't draw in the suburbs. Used to be a kid could be in 3 sports and be cool but no more specialization is happening in or before high school. So kids that may get to be 6 foot plus have already chosen before they hit 6 feet and since white suburban schools get their asses kicked in Basketball that choice is avoided.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 07:26 PM (qo244)

535 The slightly pervy but smart move would have been to say "my wife makes them art"

Posted by: CAC at May 20, 2013 11:23 PM (Y993C)

You are wise beyond your years (and less in the bag than I)

My wife is in London on business, therefore I get special dispensation to miss the obviously smart sexual comment and dive right into stupid and tone deaf.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 07:26 PM (O6Tmi)

536 Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 11:19 PM (IyxzF)

Sadly....100% correct.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2013 07:27 PM (O6Tmi)

537 Had the British not beaten back the Japenese during WWII, Ghandi's views of pacifism would have floated down the Ganges along with his head. Posted by: puddleglum at May 20, 2013 11:23 PM (VuS9i) That was a very British kind of remark and it made me laugh out loud!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 07:28 PM (zrlmb)

538 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 11:25 PM (zrlmb)

Tammy!!!!! {{{{{}}}}} Did you have mad fun with Thor? So lovely to see you!

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 07:28 PM (8lmkt)

539

The Republicans which seem to have good ideas but can't seem to not step on their own dicks in putting them forward.
Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 11:13 PM

Nice joke there, chief. The only way republicans step on their own dicks is if someone cuts it off and throws is on the ground in front of them. Ball-less bunch of eunuchs.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 20, 2013 07:28 PM (ORvjs)

540 Sorry. I didn't think I missed the point. NBA teams are 'called' diverse because they are predominantly black. Thus diverse=black. Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 11:19 PM (IyxzF) To the left, "Diversity" means imagining a future with no straight white males to achieve their final solution.

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 07:29 PM (Vk2pI)

541 I see there are a couple of Remagen buffs here. First week of August, there is a re-enactment at Tidioute (you heard me right) Pennsylvania, and except for the lack of tanks, it's a great one. The bridge looks an awful lot like the Ludendorff, and they damn near blow it up every time, just like Jerry.

I was ferried across the Rhine from tower to tower on the 50th anniversary of the crossing. They had a little concert in the famous tunnel, too. Real interesting acoustics, as it is a brick arch and on a curve. The vast iron doors were open that day; they almost never are.

Posted by: comatus at May 20, 2013 07:29 PM (JNUY4)

542 Since we're talking about it, I noticed all the sports pundits are "concerned" about the drop off in the percentage of black players in MLB. Personally I think it's because the NBA is predominantly black and basketball is by far and away the predominate sport in black culture. So what? Things change. It's like it's a huge concern that there isn't fifty more black major league baseball players.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 07:29 PM (Fz2C7)

543 Yeah. But why, CBD? You see it. I see it. Every swinging d**k above sees it. Even the d**kheads see it. How did this happen? I feel old.

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 07:30 PM (IyxzF)

544 any OK moron know of any good organizations to send some cash to? Team Rubicon. Link to response to tornadoes: http://fundraise.teamrubiconusa.org/events/operation-starting-gun/e25140

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 20, 2013 07:31 PM (WNdMU)

545 So just in case I was not the only one interested in WHO the judge was that signed the search warrant to look into the private goods of James Rosen of FOX News based on the specious argument that he (as a reporter... reporting) was a co-conspirator in a federal crime:

ALAN KAY - U.S. Magistrate Judge

Posted by: No More Thugs Please at May 20, 2013 07:31 PM (B2SVf)

546 Peaches! Nit as much fun as you would think, once we got past the Boy-ain't-been-laid=in-three-months stage. I need to email ya fer some advice.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 07:31 PM (zrlmb)

547 Nice joke there, chief. The only way republicans step on their own dicks is if someone cuts it off and throws is on the ground in front of them. Ball-less bunch of eunuchs. Posted by: OneEyedJack>>

So your dick is long enough for you to step on. Congratulations and also congratulations for skipping the point.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 07:32 PM (qo244)

548 Has the spelling of Gandhi actually been changed, or is there a little joke going on?

I don't see you guys seriously doing that with Hilter or Stailn. Have to admit, I do enjoy a "Rosenfeldt" every once in a while. Speeling. It's so deuced hard.

Posted by: comatus at May 20, 2013 07:32 PM (JNUY4)

549 Right, madtom you understood me. I was referring to peaches. I'm glad the NBA is merit-based. Problem is we only allow merit-based outcomes when whites lose. When whites win it's a problem that needs to be fixed. Well, we allow it but hide it. The dirty secret of silicon valley is the companies are overwhelmingly built by nerdy white and asian dudes. Google and Apple work really hard to hide the # of black and hispanic employees they have.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 07:34 PM (ZPrif)

550 Hhmmm WWII armor re-enactors
http://www.robertsarmory.com/
Lets see M-5 Stuart, M-8 Greyhound, M-3 Stuart, and an M-3 half-track.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 07:34 PM (d0bTF)

551

Cybil Shepherd.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at May 20, 2013 07:35 PM (w+jM6)

552 so Papa John's is testing the waters of eSports. If big companies get into the arena, I don't see how it doesn't blow up in their faces

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 07:35 PM (vJdyz)

553 45 You know, I agree with Bookworm's view on the IRS Scandal. I think she's got it exactly right.

However, there is a Salon article which has been going around the Lib circles about how Bush used the IRS to target his enemies as well.

According to the Salon article, Bush targeted the NAACP and a couple others.

I vaguely remember this. What do you guys know about it?

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_targeted_liberals/

Posted by: Pastorius at May 20, 2013 09:24 PM (gMAUH)

===

Yeah, cuz you remember the day when the high-ranking irSS official planted a question with one of their lobbyist buddies so they could get out in front by saying they were "sorry" about harassing those liberal groups?

Me neither.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2013 07:36 PM (PlzOe)

554 Eh, there used to be too many white guys trying to play basketball, in my opinion. Not talking about tall white guys, but the 5'8'' through 5'11'' guys. Out here in Cali a lot of tall white guys end up in volleyball instead of basketball. Blacks are dropping off in baseball because of the influx of spanish players along with the rise of football and basketball. The minor league system scares away a lot of athletes who will feel that they will never make it. Even though the payoff is higher in baseball rather than football. Lack of instant gratification.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at May 20, 2013 07:36 PM (b9K4P)

555 Okay...., did you guys get any (unusually) crazy shit posted here? Because I had to pick a cat turd off the keyboard when I got back, and there's hairball glop all over the desk...

I'm gonna strangle that little fucker.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 20, 2013 07:36 PM (aDwsi)

556 507 Hey Cthulhu!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 11:13 PM (d0bTF)

Howdy, AP!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at May 20, 2013 07:36 PM (tyF2+)

557 Team Rubicon RAWKS. That is all! A HUGE part of the black issue in baseball is that they're being financially squeezed out as Travel Ball is such a huge part of kids baseball now. The kids who can afford that have a huge advantage. They play all year, get more experience, etc. And the MLB teams recruiting from the islands where they can get great prospects for dirt cheap doesn't help either. The Cool Factor is not there, either, but the money is an issue too.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 07:36 PM (zrlmb)

558 ny OK moron know of any good organizations to send some cash to?

https://donate.salvationarmyusa.org/uss/eds/aok

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 07:36 PM (8lmkt)

559 Cybil Shepherd. (back then, not now) Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Posted by: Jim in Virginia at May 20, 2013 11:35 PM -------------------------------------- FIFY

Posted by: irright at May 20, 2013 07:38 PM (DtNNC)

560 I need to email ya fer some advice.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 11:31 PM (zrlmb)

Always here for you, sweetness.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 07:38 PM (8lmkt)

561

Very Late to the thread.

I agree W/ 14 that Wilson with his WWI anti-sedition sedition pogrom was bad, and possibly worse than the IRS jihad.

And Wilson had the awful and racist distinction of bringing Jim Crow to DC and the Federal Government. He segregated the civil service. He allowed "Birth of a Nation" to be shown in the White House. (If you never saw it, it could be subtitled, "How the noble, God fearing, KKK saved White Southern women from the shiftless, violent and sexually over-revved black men." I was shocked and disgusted when I saw it the first time.)

In other words W Wilson was a typical Democrat.

Posted by: rd at May 20, 2013 07:38 PM (D+lxs)

562
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_targeted_liberals/

Posted by: Pastorius at May 20, 2013 09:24 PM (gMAUH)

===
Yeah, cuz you remember the day when the high-ranking irSS official planted a question with one of their lobbyist buddies so they could get out in front by saying they were "sorry" about harassing those liberal groups?
Me neither.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2013 11:36 PM (PlzOe)

===

follow up --

Great, if the irSS is used by both parties to attack ordinary citizens, then why don't we all agree to get rid of it. We can go for some simplified tax code that eliminates the ways assholes can use the confusion to hide the way they behave.

How about it, Lefties, if you are not lying to cover Oblamer's ass, there should be no reason not to agree.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2013 07:39 PM (PlzOe)

563 Basketball is also a huge part of the black culture cuz you don't need fancy equipment and it's hard to vandalize concrete, nor does it need to be maintained, and no one steals the bases.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 07:39 PM (zrlmb)

564 The short white guys sports are baseball and, especially, soccer. If you are a 5'9 white guy and a great athlete than basketball and football are pretty much out. Tons of 5'9 soccer players. And a good # of baseball players. And if you are a 5'9 white guy who's both a great athlete and crazy -- UFC fighter.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 07:40 PM (ZPrif)

565 Hhmmm WWII armor re-enactors>>

Gotta love these guys that sell driving tanks as a cool Bachelor Party. (Which would have been way more memorable than than cheap titty bar I was taken to)

http://www.driveatank.com/

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 07:40 PM (qo244)

566 Gandhi was an enema enthusiast, a British loyalist...later turned anti-colonialist, and a community organizer. He spent most of his life in southern Africa, not India.

Posted by: Corona at May 20, 2013 07:40 PM (fh2Y7)

567 And I almost forgot, The Palmer Raids, that looked for furrin Bolsheviks under all the beds in the NE. Wilson had Palmer as his AG.

Posted by: rd at May 20, 2013 07:40 PM (D+lxs)

568 511 I have been to Easter ceremonies in Brazil you would swear were in Bravaria

Posted by: Jean at May 20, 2013 11:16 PM (CMlD4)

Ohhhh......bravaria..that sounds..uh..enticing......

Posted by: 4TZNh at May 20, 2013 07:40 PM (4TZNh)

569 I hope y'all see what I'm getting at. There is a lot of 'white %' this and 'black %' that and 'brown %' the next thing and what does any of that have to do with variety? Which I think was the point of diversity in the first place. Rant off. Cheap scotch chased by cheap wine. Next thing you know I'll want somebody to define racist.

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 07:41 PM (IyxzF)

570 Chat tomorrow for the Xbox Reveal. Figure people start showing up at 12:30 PM EST in #AOSHQ so we have a half hour of talking shit before the reveal and watch the pre-show and probably end it when the post-show is over which should be about 3 PM EST

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 07:41 PM (vJdyz)

571 Basketball is also a huge part of the black culture cuz you don't need fancy equipment and it's hard to vandalize concrete, nor does it need to be maintained, and no one steals the bases.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 11:39 PM (zrlmb)

That! And what the hell is wrong with it? Why is pigment such a "thing" . . . maybe I'm just a fuckin' curmudgeon, but since the 80s, every time I see "race" on a questionnaire, census, anything, I have always checked "other" and written in "human." The whole thing makes me want to puke.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 07:41 PM (8lmkt)

572 I think it's as simple as black kids prefer to play basketball over baseball. Hey, more power to them.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 07:43 PM (Fz2C7)

573 Amen, Peaches. We have gone crazy on race. You can't even TRULY celebrate diversity cuz by God you ain't even supposed to NOTICE what color people are. The Dems use it to turn everyone against each other, of course, but God damn it, we let it happen.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 07:44 PM (zrlmb)

574 I think it's as simple as black kids prefer to play basketball over baseball. Hey, more power to them.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 11:43 PM (Fz2C7)

more money in it, plus it's easy to build courts in a city unlike the space (which is a premium) needed for a diamond

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 07:44 PM (vJdyz)

575 550. I got a good one to send money to donate.navycopjoe.org/mypocket/stripperfund Just kidding

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 07:44 PM (j8JLb)

576 Most black NBA guys don't really come from the mean inner city streets like the stereotype. Black NBA players are, compared to the avg black family -- richer, more suburban, more likely to have a father around. There still are the Lebron James single parent poverty guys, of course. 70%+ of black kids grow up without a father, it's just a lower % of NBA players. And Lebron is a freak of nature. Big advantage to a child's young development to have a father with resources around. Better coaching earlier.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 07:45 PM (ZPrif)

577 RIP Ray Manzarek of The Doors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O6x_m4zvFs

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 20, 2013 07:45 PM (8sCoq)

578 I also like muchly drinking the urine!

Posted by: zombie gandhi at May 20, 2013 07:45 PM (mGBy8)

579

Congratulations and also congratulations for skipping the point.Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 11:32 PM (qo244)

Seems like you made two distinctly different points. I was merely responding to only one of them.

I, and most of us, have come to expect nothing less than what the hard left-driven agenda of the democrats has given us. But over the years, nay decades, my wishes and expectations of the republicans have lowered to the point where I hold them in almost equal contempt. They are either utterly feckless or in on the gag. Choose one or prove me wrong.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 20, 2013 07:46 PM (ORvjs)

580 I played both soccer and basketball growing up, but halfway through high school I knew basketball wasn't in my future. So I stuck with soccer and track and I never regretted it. I also try to encourage short athletic guys to look into track and field.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at May 20, 2013 07:46 PM (b9K4P)

581 Peaches. See #561. Why do I need so many for words for such simple concepts?

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 07:47 PM (IyxzF)

582 Is it true the OK school that was hit kept the kids after class because of the tornado warning? Are/were there underground shelters there? This is just so sad.

Posted by: Craig Poe at May 20, 2013 07:47 PM (BVkEs)

583 Next thing you know I'll want somebody to define racist.

"Republican" . . . I can't believe you even had to ask.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 07:48 PM (8lmkt)

584 "Next thing you know I'll want somebody to define racist." --------------------------- That's easy-> Not government-lovin enough. See also: Not diverse enough.

Posted by: irright at May 20, 2013 07:48 PM (DtNNC)

585 The modern NBA player is more like Chris Webber than Allen Iverson. Webber may act like a thug sometimes, but he came from a stable middle class family. Also, lots of multi-generation athletes now. The Blake Griffins and Steph Curries. The Grant Hills and Ken Griffey Jrs, where there dad was a pro athlete. Huge advantage to have a rich pro athlete dad. Good genes. Money. Good coaching.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 07:48 PM (ZPrif)

586 so Warhammer Quest for the iOS got submitted, so first Thursday of June for it unless they run into problems with the Apple submission process. Wonder what they are going to charge for it

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 07:49 PM (vJdyz)

587 1975 Breaking News Bulletin: Global cooling causing more and deadlier tornadoes! (H/T Drudge)

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2013 07:49 PM (mGBy8)

588

Sports Question:

What about Lacross?

Too preppy?

Here in MN, boys and girls Hockey seems to be big too.

Posted by: rd at May 20, 2013 07:50 PM (D+lxs)

589 Diversity isn't just about race any more. You have to be inclusive of pervs now, too.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 07:50 PM (kcfmt)

590 I played both soccer and basketball growing up, but halfway through high school I knew basketball wasn't in my future. So I stuck with soccer and track and I never regretted it. I also try to encourage short athletic guys to look into track and field.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at May 20, 2013 11:46 PM (b9K4P)

wrap them up in bubble wrap and throw some skates on them and force them to play goalie

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 07:50 PM (vJdyz)

591 That! And what the hell is wrong with it? Why is pigment such a "thing" . . . maybe I'm just a fuckin' curmudgeon, but since the 80s, every time I see "race" on a questionnaire, census, anything, I have always checked "other" and written in "human." The whole thing makes me want to puke.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 11:41 PM (8lmkt)

Why is it that all the assholes who claim to idolize MLK -- supposedly because he said, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." -- keep demanding to know the color of my skin?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 20, 2013 07:50 PM (tyF2+)

592

The modern NBA player is more like Chris Webber than Allen Iverson. Webber may act like a thug sometimes, but he came from a stable middle class family.

Also, lots of multi-generation athletes now. The Blake Griffins and Steph Curries. The Grant Hills and Ken Griffey Jrs, where there dad was a pro athlete. Huge advantage to have a rich pro athlete dad. Good genes. Money. Good coaching.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 11:48 PM (ZPrif)

You will see this in Football too. Marion Barber, etc.

Posted by: rd at May 20, 2013 07:51 PM (D+lxs)

593 What about Lacross?
Too preppy?

Posted by: rd at May 20, 2013 11:50 PM (D+lxs)

not enough teams around the country in half the country to get people interested. Plus there isn't really any fame on a national stage

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 07:51 PM (vJdyz)

594 I didn't ask. But that was exactly what I expected to see.

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 07:52 PM (IyxzF)

595 Huge advantage to have a rich pro athlete dad. Good genes. Money. Good coaching.

What, I was supposed to play tennis?

Posted by: Peyton Manning at May 20, 2013 07:53 PM (z9HTb)

596 I think it's as simple as black kids prefer to play basketball over baseball. Hey, more power to them.>>

We had a Basketball backboard/net of the front of my garage growing up. And we played some form of it till we hit enough guys to make a team to play baseball or football. But the thought was not this game is less fun than Baseball and Football but they were played in the park where mom wasn't able to watch from the kitchen window. And grass parks in the burbs were more plentiful than concrete basketball courts.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 07:53 PM (qo244)

597 I'm still waiting for a government form that requests 'Content of Character' rather than 'Race.'

I also dislike the forms that have choices provided for gender, oppressively requiring me to select M or F. I prefer to answer "Yes, please.'

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 07:53 PM (kcfmt)

598 lowandslow, it isn't that simple. Well, maybe now, because it is cool now, but there are real reasons why that happened. I worked at a YMCA in Atlanta...I am a huge baseball fan and I tried SO FUCKING hard to get a field resuscitated for very eager boys to play ball. Seemed like such a simple thing. I got donations, we got all kinds of help.... first night, bases stolen. Next thing gone, all our shiny new Louisville Sluggers. Some assholes complained about our fried chicken sponsors. One thing after another and finally we just went back to roundball. Oh, and one of my coaches got arrested, one got shot. (Nothing to do with baseball or the Y!)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 07:54 PM (zrlmb)

599 Rented 'Hating Breitbart' on video on demand this evening. Strongly recommended. Made me miss the guy. A pop culture journalist friend of mine interviewed Breitbart once, said the man gave off this boundless, mile-a-minute kind of energy. We could use that energy now. Thinking about Breitbart makes me think about leadership. I know we on the Right are, for the most part, defined by our individualism but the truth of it is we lack strong leadership. None of the name-brand Republican politicians or media figures (for lack of a better word) seem to have the stuff--the charisma, the savvy, the whatever it takes--to bring us together and set us on a common course. (While it's true that the media-powered Left attempts to destroy charismatic leader-type conservatives as soon as they show themselves, a good leader should--like Breitbart--be able to hold his or her own against a hostile press.) No, I don't believe we should be pining for The Man On The White Horse, which is how the Left views Obama. But given all of the talented, capable people out there on our side of the idea wars, there must be at least one able to pick up where Breitbart left off.

Posted by: troyriser at May 20, 2013 07:55 PM (ptcFO)

600 What about Lacross?
Too preppy?
Posted by: rd at May 20, 2013 11:50 PM
------------------
Too rape-ey.

Posted by: Ashley J. at May 20, 2013 07:55 PM (EYD4f)

601 I try to fit in 'when did this become a grammar test. Do you mean sex?' I've gotten in a bit of trouble over that. Ya know?

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 07:56 PM (IyxzF)

602 The Left believes in "disparate impact". Unless whites get the shaft. And asians. Asian kid has to score 300-400 pts higher on the SAT to have the same odds of getting into an elite college as a black applicant (remember how Michelle Obama said nobody said she'd get into an Ivy cause her test scores weren't high enough?). The reason all the asian kids take test prep? They know they are competing only against the other asian kids for the asian spots. If elite colleges allowed merit-based admission the asian % would double.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 07:56 PM (ZPrif)

603 there must be at least one able to pick up where Breitbart left off.

Have you heard of Ted Cruz? I think he's all that and a bag of chips. I've been wrong before, but I don't think this is gonna be one of those times. Even Dershowitz and Carville agree with me.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 07:56 PM (8lmkt)

604 Gonna stick my nose in a hornet's nest to note that science supports Flatbush Joe - diversity, per se, is not an unalloyed social benefit. The study was suppressed for 5 years because its creator didn't like the results he came up with: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2gsmcm

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at May 20, 2013 07:57 PM (jxoDh)

605 And grass parks in the burbs were more plentiful than concrete basketball courts. Grass VERY thin on the ground in the inner city. Too expensive to maintain.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 07:57 PM (zrlmb)

606 Love me some Ted Cruz. He and Allen West are my only hope.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 07:58 PM (zrlmb)

607 Miss Tammy!

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 07:59 PM (Z9EHQ)

608 Peaches!

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 07:59 PM (Z9EHQ)

609 The reason all the asian kids take test prep? They know they are competing only against the other asian kids for the asian spots. That and mama will whip their ass if they don't do well.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 07:59 PM (zrlmb)

610 I still get warm for Paul Ryan and Darrell Issa, Tammy, but I think they're gonna stay where they are. Hopefully for a long, long time.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:00 PM (8lmkt)

611 Look at CalTech for what true colorblind merit admissions looks like. It looks like a lot of semi-autistic asian and white dudes. Diversity at Caltech is a half-Chinese dude hanging out with a half-Korean dude.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 08:00 PM (ZPrif)

612 Add to the list of hot gingers Patty Ann Brown from Fox News.

Posted by: connielu at May 20, 2013 08:00 PM (0ZTLY)

613 Y-man!!!

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:00 PM (8lmkt)

614 yankeefifth, as I live and breathe. You should check your Twitter now and then.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:00 PM (zrlmb)

615 yankeefifth, as I live and breathe. You should check your Twitter now and then. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:00 AM I almost never do anything twitter. Are you well?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:02 PM (Z9EHQ)

616 Peaches, I am a Paul Ryan Fangirl For Life, but he upset me awhile back altho I don't remember how. And Issa is Da Man. Never heard him making any noise about running for POTUS, though. Probably too smart.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:03 PM (zrlmb)

617 Y-man!!! Posted by: Peaches at May 21, 2013 12:00 AM I ask myself as much every morning as I am crying and shaving in the shower.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:03 PM (Z9EHQ)

618 I'm excited to see the new xbox. But I know I'll be disappointed.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 08:03 PM (ZPrif)

619 Alas, is there any good news anymore?

Posted by: Craig Poe at May 20, 2013 08:03 PM (BVkEs)

620 "So if the president and the NTEU are colluding to punish their enemies, do we have any recourse at all?"

Sure, but the proprietor of this blog will ban you for saying what it is.

Posted by: SDN at May 20, 2013 08:03 PM (0vX0z)

621 I would go to twitter of pics of naked girls but that is about all.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:04 PM (Z9EHQ)

622 I am not too shabby, I thank you for asking, sir. Yourself?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:04 PM (zrlmb)

623 I am not too shabby, I thank you for asking, sir. Yourself? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:04 AM I am fine but everything sucks like michelle obama on a tube of cheez whiz.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:05 PM (Z9EHQ)

624 Diversity isn't just about race any more. You have to be inclusive of pervs now, too. Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 11:50 PM (kcfmt) Now-a-days if a boy dressed up like a girl, you will be diciplined or even branded as mentally ill if you do not validate their gender identity. I am not joking about this, sadly enough... Examples here: http://tinyurl.com/kzlhnl8 here: http://tinyurl.com/cfb4cdk and here: http://tinyurl.com/dykj68k

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 08:05 PM (Vk2pI)

625 Alas, is there any good news anymore?

Does anybody remember laughter?

Posted by: Robert Plant at May 20, 2013 08:06 PM (/Jgma)

626 And Issa is Da Man. Never heard him making any noise about running for POTUS, though. Probably too smart.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:03 AM (zrlmb)

Too rich (THE richest member of Congress, did it all himself after a son-of-immigrants, little bit of GTA teen-hood). And, honestly, this is what gives me a tiny glimmer of hope. We need actual "public servants," who are there to make things better, not just to play musical chairs and aspire to personal glory. We all know where that shit has gotten us.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:06 PM (8lmkt)

627 man do I know how to clear a room or what?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:06 PM (Z9EHQ)

628 Hey, MissT

Nice to see you survived teh reunitin'

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2013 08:06 PM (PlzOe)

629 #603

At Cal Tech, Weirdo-American is a recognized ethnic group. Trumps pretty much everything else short of non-human sentient. They haven't officially had any of those yet, although the tests on some student were inconclusive in several areas.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 08:07 PM (kcfmt)

630

OT, but I srsly can't believe it is taking soooooo long to drink myself to death. It's not like I haven't tried my damnedest.

Any special reason for this?

Posted by: harleycowboy58 at May 20, 2013 08:07 PM (+9AX9)

631 And Issa is Da Man. Never heard him making any noise about running for POTUS, though. Probably too smart. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:03 AM (zrlmb) I supported Issa before he was elected to the House when he ran against Matt Fong in the GOP primary to face Boxer (back in the day when Boxer's re-election was not 100% assured). Sadly the "moderate" Fong beat Issa and went on to loose to Boxer by a 10 point margin...

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 08:07 PM (Vk2pI)

632 Baseballs decline in popularity (participation wise) isn't just restricted to the black community. When I got out of high school I was playing Legion ball, semi- really semi- pro ball (we got some gas money) and played in two separate slo-pitch leagues. The city had four divisions in slo-pitch. Now the city team is gone and there are only two slo-pitch divisions.
The town's population hasn't gone down.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 20, 2013 08:07 PM (Fz2C7)

633 Joe; I have 'The Sith Lords' running (I know, old. Restored content) and am going back to it shortly. I have endgamed this sucker more than a dozen times as light side. Now I am going to try Sithkins. Ohy, what is xbox? /s

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 08:07 PM (IyxzF)

634 While I respect all the calls for "both sides" not to politicize the tornado, I have seen some vile leftard comments on Twitter and Facebook, and from a troll or two here. If responding, or at least (once again) pointing out leftard insanity counts as "politicizing" the tragedy on my end, sorry. I haven't seen anyone on the right doing anything but updating the news, calling for prayers or giving out assistance links.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at May 20, 2013 08:07 PM (yJYwC)

635 Issa is rich? So he does not effin care about anything besides what he cares about? how cool is that. I hope he stay in the House and does not go to the senate. it is good having someone with a sackful and a plan in the House.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:08 PM (Z9EHQ)

636 Any special reason for this?

Posted by: harleycowboy58 at May 21, 2013 12:07 AM (+9AX9)

hint: it dates to the fall of 2008. before then, I just drank for funsies.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:08 PM (8lmkt)

637 Mark Levin had stated that the Pubbie establishment, Issa included, knew about the Tea Party being a target and did nothing because.... it was just the Tea Party!

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at May 20, 2013 08:08 PM (lD8ju)

638 619 man do I know how to clear a room or what?

---

Eat beans much?

Posted by: Craig Poe at May 20, 2013 08:09 PM (BVkEs)

639 hail starting sooner than I expected, see how many times we lose power tonight, can already hear the first air siren going off

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:09 PM (vJdyz)

640 As for diversity in sports, there may be some excellent non-black basketball players or football running backs, but recruiters and coaches never seem to look for them. Or if they find one, they are steered to other areas. In my experience, anyway.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at May 20, 2013 08:09 PM (yJYwC)

641 Issa is rich? So he does not effin care about anything besides what he cares about? how cool is that. I hope he stay in the House and does not go to the senate. it is good having someone with a sackful and a plan in the House. Posted by: yankeefifth at May 21, 2013 12:08 AM (Z9EHQ) He's from California. Forget the Senate, the way the state is going I'd be surprised if any Republican can get elected there before the decade is out...

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 08:09 PM (Vk2pI)

642
No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky
Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
With just a pocketful of hope
Money for dope
Money for rope

Posted by: Harriet Beecher Stowe at May 20, 2013 08:10 PM (e8kgV)

643 #627

Yeah, he made his fortune in producing automobile sized alarm clocks intended to rouse entire neighborhoods at random moments between 11 PM and 4 AM.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 08:10 PM (kcfmt)

644 The Left believes in "disparate impact".

Wait until they see the class action lawsuits against the IRS

Posted by: Jean at May 20, 2013 08:10 PM (CMlD4)

645 man do I know how to clear a room or what?
I told you not to order the "Clams Casino".

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2013 08:10 PM (mGBy8)

646 Issa is rich? So he does not effin care about anything besides what he cares about? how cool is that.

the richest member of congress, Y5. read his wiki page, he's a very interesting guy. and fierce like a honey badger, only with a much bigger bank account.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:10 PM (8lmkt)

647 Buying a new tractor for some hunting land we have (Kubota B series). Does anyone here have insights into food plots for deer?

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 08:10 PM (qo244)

648 For those seeking a more traditional alternative to the Girl Scouts, there's American Heritage Girls. Some churches seem to be starting AHG and phasing out their sponsorship of Girls Scout units. http://www.ahgonline.org

Posted by: Fox2! at May 20, 2013 08:11 PM (+N4be)

649 He's from California. Forget the Senate, the way the state is going I'd be surprised if any Republican can get elected there before the decade is out... Posted by: The Political Hat at May 21, 2013 12:09 AM heh, as for the way california is going in 20 years issa will be their only Rep in the house and the california house seat will be much more prestigious than one of two senate seats.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:11 PM (Z9EHQ)

650 I've explained to my boss I won't be available until noon-ish tomorrow due to required participation in a religious observance.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 08:11 PM (kcfmt)

651 I like Derbyshire. Interesting guy. And if he's dead to CAC, well, his cancer will probably make that true short enough. You can wish him dead all you want, but cancer got there first. I find him an excellent writer with an interesting mind. But yeah, Derbyshire with his Chinese wife and half-asian kids has been officially declared an un-person by all of the Left and much of the Right. Someone coined a term, perhaps Derbyshire, the "Dark Enlightenment". The Dark Enlightement is all those things that are true -- but which the ruling class has declared to be official UnTruths, regardless of evidence. A lot of the Dark Enlightenment is about human biodiversity and gender differences -- as in genetic, biological differences. A simple example is the zealots who insist there is no such thing as race -- even though I could give a blind DNA test to a room of people and have a computer sort them by genetic difference ... and it would group them by race/ethnicity. Same with the crazies who deny the biological difference between men and women. It's like looking at a bull and a cow and insisting there is no difference.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 20, 2013 08:12 PM (ZPrif)

652 Hey Peaches!

Posted by: Yip at May 20, 2013 08:12 PM (/jHWN)

653 he richest member of congress, Y5. read his wiki page, he's a very interesting guy. and fierce like a honey badger, only with a much bigger bank account. Posted by: Peaches at May 21, 2013 12:10 AM I do like his tenaciousness / tenacity. He gets on something and keeps going.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:13 PM (Z9EHQ)

654 I've explained to my boss I won't be available until noon-ish tomorrow due to required participation in a religious observance.

If you live in California and the observance requires you to wear a dress, you're untouchable.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2013 08:13 PM (/Jgma)

655 Hey jc! My laptop is acting up, I may not last long.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:14 PM (zrlmb)

656 Hey The Dude, Uncharted as cosplayed by Jessica Nigri
http://larryalanphoto.com/blog/?p=606

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 08:14 PM (d0bTF)

657 641 I've explained to my boss I won't be available until noon-ish tomorrow due to required participation in a religious observance.

Posted by: epobirs at May 21, 2013 12:11 AM (kcfmt)

---

If it doesn't involve praying five times a day, you'll be fired.

Posted by: EEOC Guideline Committee at May 20, 2013 08:15 PM (BVkEs)

658 #645

Naw, the closest thing to an official dress code is a Halo t-shirt.

I've got one I won in some launch contest for Halo 2 but I don't believe I've ever put it on. Might still be in the plastic.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 08:16 PM (kcfmt)

659 Still in plastic, put it on eBay as a collectible.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 08:17 PM (d0bTF)

660 Issa never fails to disappoint he overpromises and underdelivers

Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at May 20, 2013 08:17 PM (lD8ju)

661 646 Hey jc!

My laptop is acting up, I may not last long.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:14 AM (zrlmb)

===

*best Ronco voice*

Try New and Improved Laptop Viagra !!

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2013 08:17 PM (PlzOe)

662 Is he from CA? And yea, Flatbush, they have probably killed hundreds of thousands of people with medications or lack thereof claiming there are no racial differences. Studying only white males of a certain age for decades wasn't such a great idea.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:18 PM (zrlmb)

663 say, I was looking through my spam folder and noticed it is full of email from mail order brides and online pharmacies selling bonerpills. Interestingly I did not have anything from either of those categories before I started hanging out and commenting here. Anyway, do you suppose it is the boner pills that lead to the mail order brides or the mail order brides that lead to the boner pills.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:18 PM (Z9EHQ)

664

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 21, 2013 12:14 AM (d0bTF)

not her best spread even if it does show off her goods in a nice way

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:18 PM (vJdyz)

665 Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Either way.

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 08:19 PM (IyxzF)

666 I've explained to my boss I won't be available until noon-ish tomorrow due to required participation in a religious observance.

Posted by: epobirs at May 21, 2013 12:11 AM (kcfmt)

xbox?

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:19 PM (vJdyz)

667 OT, but I srsly can't believe it is taking soooooo long to drink myself to death. It's not like I haven't tried my damnedest.

Any special reason for this?>>

A liver that was born on the peat bogs of Scotland?

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 08:19 PM (qo244)

668 Best medicine for laptop maybe be new user!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:20 PM (zrlmb)

669 My laptop is acting up, I may not last long. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:14 AM well, if I may be so forward, I would suggest that you would have greatly improved performance from you laptop if you would take it off vibrate.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:20 PM (Z9EHQ)

670 Hey, Yip!!! Been a while . . . how you been keeping?

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:20 PM (8lmkt)

671 chicks with a nice rack need to frame their jugs more

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:20 PM (vJdyz)

672 yankee, yankee, yankee.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:20 PM (zrlmb)

673 yankee, yankee, yankee. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:20 AM hey, its all I got / I got nothin

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:21 PM (Z9EHQ)

674 Posted by: yankeefifth at May 21, 2013 12:20 AM (Z9EHQ)

you are bad to the bone, buddy . . .

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:22 PM (8lmkt)

675 The evil?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 08:23 PM (dYf+Z)

676 If people can't talk about something, they *will* fight about it. As individuals people can be brilliant, in groups, bottomlessly stupid.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 08:23 PM (qyfb5)

677 Tammy al-Thor can you please specify exactly what symptoms your laptop is exhibiting. Might get it sorted out online here.

The Dude, surprised you did not critique her gun discipline. Finger on trigger.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 08:23 PM (d0bTF)

678 Damn

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 20, 2013 08:23 PM (dYf+Z)

679 Lord don't encourage him to talk about his bone, Peaches!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:23 PM (zrlmb)

680 Not the most fortunate tune allusion perhaps.

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 08:23 PM (IyxzF)

681 Mero, you hit the magic number . . . quite by accident, if I am not mistaken.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:23 PM (8lmkt)

682 Figures the Sith Lord gets the evil number.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 08:24 PM (d0bTF)

683

McGregor at May 21, 2013 12:10 AM

From what I've seen alfalfa and clover seem to be the top two and I've heard of string beans, soy beans.

Posted by: harleycowboy58 at May 20, 2013 08:24 PM (+9AX9)

684 By accident, but appropriate given the content.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 20, 2013 08:24 PM (qyfb5)

685 heh, as for the way california is going in 20 years issa will be their only Rep in the house and the california house seat will be much more prestigious than one of two senate seats. Posted by: yankeefifth at May 21, 2013 12:11 AM --------------------------------------- Tu eres muy loco.

Posted by: gimmigrants galore at May 20, 2013 08:24 PM (DtNNC)

686 As someone who has a bit of familiarity with history and corruption, I happen to believe that this is in fact one of the worse scandals in American history. It is an attempt to use the IRS to suspend the Bill of Rights. Given Eric Holder's behavior in the Black Panther case, I believe it is a deliberate attempt to destroy Americans who disagree with Obama, reward those who do agree, and cow the rest into a permanent state of obedience to racial and ideological privilege.
The press has been more than willing.

Posted by: pat at May 20, 2013 08:24 PM (LLHgu)

687 Anna, my guess is User Error!

I think I was in some sort of loop where I shut the lid, then tickled it to wake it back up, but it wasn't alseep yet, so it got stuck.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:25 PM (zrlmb)

688 The Dude, surprised you did not critique her gun discipline. Finger on trigger.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 21, 2013 12:23 AM (d0bTF)

because I don't see a gun with chicks in cosplay, I see a cock in their hands

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:25 PM (vJdyz)

689 I am up to my eyeballs in booze and stupid.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:25 PM (Z9EHQ)

690 The Left believes in "disparate impact". Wait until they see the class action lawsuits against the IRS Posted by: Jean Unfortunately, the Right never bother to build up parallel legal concepts, neither in papers or bright star students. We're hosed in more way than one; that whole Crit theory never had any forceful refutation in the few conservatives in the academy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at May 20, 2013 08:25 PM (dwArK)

691 Hey y'all.

Posted by: Bomber at May 20, 2013 08:26 PM (4Mwv/)

692 I am up to my eyeballs in booze and stupid.

bless your heart . . . I always did like you best.

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:26 PM (8lmkt)

693 Bomber!!!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:27 PM (8lmkt)

694 figures NIS would release a "limited edition" of a shitty game

http://tinyurl.com/nw9l9t5

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:27 PM (vJdyz)

695 Bomber!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:27 PM (zrlmb)

696 #656

What else?

I make my own hours most of the time, so it isn't pushing my luck or anything.

New mini-ITX motherboard arrived today. Was surprised to learn it has an mSATA slot on the underside. The idea of booting from a drive that cannot be seen by a casual observer looking in the case is kind of cool. All they'd see is the regular platter drive for large linear files aka videos. The downside is you pay a premium for mSATA and deals are unlikely due tot he format barely launching before it was replaced with a different incompatible design coming Real Soon Now. Something may turn up though. I can always use the SSD I already have on hand for this build in another system if a good mSATA drive deal turns up. It does mean dismounting the board from the case though, or rather from the slide-out tray, which is always a high risk moment.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 08:28 PM (kcfmt)

697 So if Peaches is Booze, I guess I know what that makes me.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:28 PM (zrlmb)

698 Weft, it has been my experience that those of us with functioning brains, when confronted with something like 'crit theory', can't get past the mouth open, 'Are You Serious?' stage. Unfortunate, but we will outlive them.

Posted by: Madtom at May 20, 2013 08:29 PM (IyxzF)

699

>>>> because I don't see a gun with chicks in cosplay, I see a cock in their hands

So you look at pictures of hot girls and you imagine cocks?

Posted by: Bomber at May 20, 2013 08:29 PM (4Mwv/)

700 So if Peaches is Booze, I guess I know what that makes me.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:28 AM (zrlmb)

I'm sure it was just the boner pills talking, Tammy. Boys. {eyeroll}

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:30 PM (8lmkt)

701 "...Same with the crazies who deny the biological difference between men and women. It's like looking at a bull and a cow and insisting there is no difference." Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 21, 2013 12:12 AM (ZPrif) Most intelligent people would not deny racial differences nor would pointing out those differences be unduly criticized in most settings. Saying there are racial differences is not inaccurate and is surely no sin. Saying there are qualitative differences from one race to another that make one preferable or superior to another are. You read Derbyshire's article, the one that got him fired from the National Review? I did. Derbyshire was right to be fired. He was testing the waters, seeing how far he could go--which was folly, given that when Bill Buckley was alive he had fired editors and writers out of hand if they evinced even the slightest hint of racism or antisemitism. Buckley had also apologized several times over the course of his public career for his own unintentionally racist remarks made when he was younger and offered a very public mea culpa for his (tepid) defense of South African apartheid. Derbyshire thought he was being brave and provocative. I argue he was neither.

Posted by: troyriser at May 20, 2013 08:30 PM (ptcFO)

702 I am up to my eyeballs in booze and stupid. bless your heart . . . I always did like you best. Posted by: Peaches at May 21, 2013 12:26 AM

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:31 PM (Z9EHQ)

703

Posted by: epobirs at May 21, 2013 12:28 AM (kcfmt)

only positive (considering cost) is if you trick it out with lights and a colored water cooling system.

Wish I could afford to replace my 680's for some non-reference 780's

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:31 PM (vJdyz)

704 From what I've seen alfalfa and clover seem to be the top two and I've heard of string beans, soy beans. Posted by: harleycowboy58>>

My thought currently is to start with Alfalfa or Clover first since they can be broadcast and work the others in later and include corn too.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 08:31 PM (qo244)

705 #677

A lot of laptops take that very badly. The older the worse it can get. There were some model that would get so bad you had to pull the battery before it would reboot properly.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 08:31 PM (kcfmt)

706 So you look at pictures of hot girls and you imagine cocks?

Posted by: Bomber at May 21, 2013 12:29 AM (4Mwv/)

my cock to be precise, in their hands.

Long time seeing you here

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:31 PM (vJdyz)

707 o if Peaches is Booze, I guess I know what that makes me. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:28 AM Heh. If booze and stupid were code for Peaches and MissTammy I would not be crying myself to slee p every night and waking to the sound of my own screams every morning.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:33 PM (Z9EHQ)

708

OK that sounds better.

I lurk a lot more than I post anymore. It's 9:00 Tuesday morning here. This thread is usually pretty dead by the time I show up.

Posted by: Bomber at May 20, 2013 08:34 PM (4Mwv/)

709 I'm going to bed, my dears. God bless and sweet dreams. Just gonna post this link one more time for the latecomers.

https://donate.salvationarmyusa.org/uss/eds/aok

Posted by: Peaches at May 20, 2013 08:34 PM (8lmkt)

710 A lot of laptops take that very badly. Sulky little heifer she is. Just a few years old, but petulant at times.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:34 PM (zrlmb)

711 So I went to twitter. What I am looking for?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:34 PM (Z9EHQ)

712 kinda curious if Thurrott will be correct in that they will be showing off the Illiumroom tomorrow

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:34 PM (vJdyz)

713 night Peaches! Sweet dreams.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:35 PM (Z9EHQ)

714 Just a few years old, but petulant at times.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:34 AM (zrlmb)

that's old in laptop years

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:35 PM (vJdyz)

715 So I went to twitter. What I am looking for?>>

Twats?

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 08:35 PM (qo244)

716 I have a question about the subject of Dude's comment, but I'll refrain.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:36 PM (zrlmb)

717 so NCJ, time to stick a fork in the Hawks's Championship hopes as they're DONE

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:36 PM (vJdyz)

718 so, I am mentoring someone who is starting a small business. I had my first meeting with her this afternoon. I was asking her to explain her business plan to me. Her opening sentence was "x is a $300 billion a year industry, all I need is .002 percent and I will be rich!" well there you go.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:37 PM (Z9EHQ)

719 Yea, I know, she's old in computer years! yankee, I just meant that we were including you in our conversation. Check Connect, maybe? No big deal, we just missed you.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:37 PM (zrlmb)

720 Just a few years old, but petulant at times. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:34 AM (zrlmb) so it is a female laptop. probably should start with a spanking.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:38 PM (Z9EHQ)

721 What epobirs said.

If your laptop seems like its acting more like the FSA then force a shut down. Unplug from the outlet. Pop the battery out. Count to 30 while pressing the start button to fully de-energize the system. Release start button. Re-install battery. Plug back in. And press the Start button to see if it boots properly. Press F8 to boot into Safe Mode and when it gets to login screen tell it to shutdown - do not login. Restart and once it finishes booting log in normally. Should be okay.

And don't do that again okay?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 08:38 PM (d0bTF)

722 #693

There is also the temptation, if a good deal on a 200 GB or larger mSATA drive came along, to have no hard drive at all. Really baffle those trying to figure out how it boots and offers a full array of apps.

Intel is vague on when I can expect the CPU to arrive. I still need to buy a PSU. The case will accept a plain old ATX unit but I'm looking to see how small of a unit I can find in the 400-450W range. That'll leave me plenty of head room for a decent video card if I choose to add one later. I may look into doing an external PSU to avoid a lot of heat. A big old Xbox style brick. That is as quiet as it will get without water cooling or wimpy components.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 08:38 PM (kcfmt)

723 yankee, I just meant that we were including you in our conversation. Check Connect, maybe? No big deal, we just missed you. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:37 AM ok I will / crap no pictures

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:39 PM (Z9EHQ)

724 Posted by: yankeefifth at May 21, 2013 12:37 AM (Z9EHQ) Where you findin' all these idjit wimmenz? Did she try and still your food?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:39 PM (zrlmb)

725 I have a question about the subject of Dude's comment, but I'll refrain.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:36 AM (zrlmb)

Ask away

so, I am mentoring someone who is starting a small business. I had my first meeting with her this afternoon. I was asking her to explain her business plan to me. Her opening sentence was "x is a $300 billion a year industry, all I need is .002 percent and I will be rich!"
well there you go.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 21, 2013 12:37 AM (Z9EHQ)

that's a smaht proposal

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:39 PM (vJdyz)

726 Night Peaches. Sweet dreams.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 08:39 PM (d0bTF)

727 Oh lord, Anna, I don't know....that sounds scary. Perhaps I shall have Thor spank her, as per yankee's suggestion.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:41 PM (zrlmb)

728 "x is a $300 billion a year industry, all I need is .002 percent and I will be rich!">>

So they watched Superman 3 in business school.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 08:41 PM (qo244)

729 Where you findin' all these idjit wimmenz? Did she try and still your food? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 21, 2013 12:39 AM friend of a friend. nice girl but no common sense. I'll learn her some maths and businessin. did not steal my food but took my pen.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

730

Yowsa - just talked to a good friend of mine who I cat-sit for. She flew to Oklahoma City last year to see a very close family friend of hers graduate from college. He's a teacher. Who got an elementary job teaching PE. In Moore, Oklahoma.

Now his school is Centers (sp?) Elementary, which is not either of the two they have been talking about on the news. But they also took a hit from the tornado and he was trapped with kids for about 1/2 hour, but his kids were okay - they did get enough warning to take cover. He was able to text his mom and let her know almost right away that he was okay.

One of the heartbreaking things he later told his mom on the phone was that he had heard that some of the kids killed at the other elementary actually drowned. They had taken cover in the boiler room and evidently the plumbing was utterly destroyed when the tornado hit and they were trapped. I don't know if that has been on the news or verified.

There are no words. Only prayers.

Posted by: dwagyak at May 20, 2013 08:42 PM (R/7Zf)

731 McGregor, lol!!! Fractional cents.

Just don't show up the next day in a red Ferrari.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 08:42 PM (d0bTF)

732 hmm the possibility of The Resurrection of Jesus Bynum tomorrow at the Xbox Reveal

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:42 PM (vJdyz)

733 So Tammy al-Thor has this laptop been named Zoot?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 08:43 PM (d0bTF)

734 So they watched Superman 3 in business school. Posted by: McGregor at May 21, 2013 12:41 AM she is not a business school sort. she is not very knowledgeable about business but she has load of enthusiasm and in not afraid of hard work. bu, she is a little naive.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2013 08:44 PM (Z9EHQ)

735 #702

Only if they're looking to fill time and distract from an otherwise underwhelming presentation. That thing isn't remotely ready to be a sellable product except for the LBE market. But consider how long the 360 was in the market before Kinect launched.

I predicted a long time ago that AV systems would gain the ability to map their environments in 3D in order to control the audio sweet spot and make 3D video work properly for multiple viewers without glasses or headsets. It's become pretty common in productions using virtual sets.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 08:44 PM (kcfmt)

736 Just don't show up the next day in a red Ferrari.>>

In Crime it is always the flash that leads to the crash.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 08:45 PM (qo244)

737 Prayers are the only possible comfort, dwagyak. And probably still not much.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:45 PM (zrlmb)

738 Zoot? Safe to Google??

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:46 PM (zrlmb)

739 Only if they're looking to fill time and distract from an otherwise underwhelming presentation. That thing isn't remotely ready to be a sellable product except for the LBE market. But consider how long the 360 was in the market before Kinect launched.

I predicted a long time ago that AV systems would gain the ability to map their environments in 3D in order to control the audio sweet spot and make 3D video work properly for multiple viewers without glasses or headsets. It's become pretty common in productions using virtual sets.

Posted by: epobirs at May 21, 2013 12:44 AM (kcfmt)

yeah, I'm thinking that if it makes an appearance, it will be in the capacity along the lines of "This is what we think the future may look like" as the people working on it said that it's nowhere ready for primetime last month. Be akin to the first Kinect sizzle trailer

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:47 PM (vJdyz)

740 she is not a business school sort. she is not very knowledgeable about business but she has load of enthusiasm and in not afraid of hard work. bu, she is a little naive. Posted by: yankeefifth>>

So with the right mentor she has a chance. Good luck to her and you.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 08:47 PM (qo244)

741 and just because I kinda dig this gif

http://tinyurl.com/k9pf23m

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:48 PM (vJdyz)

742 Try Monty Python. Quest for the Holy Grail. Castle Anthrax. The Grail Sign and good sister Zoot who demands to be spanked.

http://youtu.be/jjio-F47IfM

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 08:48 PM (d0bTF)

743 They closed down our local sonic last year. Katya, Was that the one on Pratt?

Posted by: Fox2! at May 20, 2013 08:48 PM (+N4be)

744 Oh hell, I knew that! I was expecting something more.... Japanese or tentacled?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:50 PM (zrlmb)

745 I admit I gave terrible customer service.

Posted by: Adolf Hitler at May 20, 2013 08:51 PM (fnJPR)

746 #718

That scam had actually been done about twenty years before that movie was made. Programmer in early 60s became aware of how bank was handling fractional cents, which was to keep them and never tell the customer they'd ever existed. He instead channeled the fractional cents into his own account, then transferred it and himself to a pleasant faraway land with no extradition treaty with the US.

Not that they could charge him with anything, as the money was not supposed to exist. The right words were whispered to some regulators and some amendments slipped into the next round of banking legislation.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 08:51 PM (kcfmt)

747 735 I admit I gave terrible customer service.

Posted by: Adolf Hitler at May 21, 2013 12:51 AM (fnJPR)

---

So the concentration camps were irrelevant, right?

Posted by: Craig Poe at May 20, 2013 08:54 PM (BVkEs)

748 *ponders*

Castle Anthrax with Zoot, Winston, Piglet, and the other good sisters are being threatened by this giant alien Urostojoki tentacle monster. It is up to the sisters at Castle Anthrax to unseal the seven magical amulets that will transform them into Battle Nuns....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 08:54 PM (d0bTF)

749

YES, THIS 100 TIMES!!!!!

I have been saying this forever. They might have used this to cover benghazi, but this scandal is a million times to the core of big govt.

Fucking Awesome!!!

Posted by: Prescient11 at May 20, 2013 08:55 PM (faH8l)

750 Castle Anthrax with Zoot, Winston, Piglet, and the other good sisters are being threatened by this giant alien Urostojoki tentacle monster. It is up to the sisters at Castle Anthrax to unseal the seven magical amulets that will transform them into Battle Nuns....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 21, 2013 12:54 AM (d0bTF)

yet no mention of Nazis and their thirst of supernatural knowledge

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 08:55 PM (vJdyz)

751 Brava, Anna!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 08:55 PM (zrlmb)

752 These discussions of sound and picture quality were what I lived for in my 20s. Now my eyes and ears are so bad "Brightness and volume" are all I care about when buying TV/Audio. And 3D Audio (I think that was quadraphonic ie The Wall and Tommy in my day) is not something I care much about anymore.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 08:57 PM (qo244)

753 738 *ponders*

Castle Anthrax with Zoot, Winston, Piglet, and the other good sisters are being threatened by this giant alien Urostojoki tentacle monster. It is up to the sisters at Castle Anthrax to unseal the seven magical amulets that will transform them into Battle Nuns....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 21, 2013 12:54 AM (d0bTF)

===

Never mind all that. On with the oral sex no matter how great the peril.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2013 08:59 PM (PlzOe)

754 Oh, hell, I give up. A spanking it shall be. Night all!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 20, 2013 09:00 PM (zrlmb)

755 Good Night Tammy.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 09:02 PM (qo244)

756 A tentacled Nazi? He must get so confused when it comes to giving a good Heil Hitler!

But yeah the Nazi monster is after the amulets. But Zoot knows what they are and issues them out after breaking the magical seals. Though the Battle Nun costume should be kept simple black with white trim. But lets make the habit pop, so reverse the colors to white with black trim. Glossy black patent leather boots for stomping. The amulet is a pectoral so it rests between the breasts. The hem can't fall all the way to the ground or they would trip on their own vestments so just below the knees I would say.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 09:02 PM (d0bTF)

757 need Alien Visions to open up their store back up, this banana e-juice sucks compared to Gorilla Juice

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 09:03 PM (vJdyz)

758 Good night Tammy, better tomorrows.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 20, 2013 09:03 PM (d0bTF)

759 Twitter wants me to follow Tommy Thompson. Hell no, that dude shouldn't even have an account after November. He should just go crawl in a corner and reminisce about the 80s when he was popular and a fair amount of the base wasn't yet completely sick of big spending Republicans.

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at May 20, 2013 09:05 PM (Lqb+9)

760 I didn't have time, because I am afraid that I may die at any moment, to plow through all of the comments looking for the key word "ginger" ... but I just wanted to say, thank you! Thank you! Now I know what to watch out for as I spend these last few minutes dodging those nasty red-heads. I can go in peace now.

Posted by: and irresolute at May 20, 2013 09:06 PM (DBH1h)

761 Goodnight, MissT.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2013 09:07 PM (PlzOe)

762 Nancy Pelosi doesn't even know how to make the big L sign properly. It's not supposed to look like a "C", Nancy! You moron of the third kind; it's supposed to look like an "L", ya dumb bitch!

Posted by: and irresolute at May 20, 2013 09:12 PM (DBH1h)

763 Though the Battle Nun costume should be kept simple black with white trim.>>

I would go with the Outfit the Nun wore in 2 Mules or Sister Sara. Since there was a little slutiness in her backstory IIRC.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 09:13 PM (qo244)

764 I'm too sleepy to test it tonight but I picked up a small Bluetooth keyboard designed for use with Android devices, such as phones and tablets. Only $9.99 after rebate at Fry's.

http://tinyurl.com/kcnkn2s

It doesn't have dedicated Top and Bottom keys but they are available from the appropriate arrow key in combination with a FN key. Should make it a lot easier to use this site.

They also have a wireless Windows keyboard with built-in trackball, mouse buttons, and a scroll wheel on the 'shoulder' like a game controller. I'm hoping it'll go well with my HTPC build. Only $8 after rebate.

http://tinyurl.com/lkyyo4p

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2013 09:13 PM (kcfmt)

765 CNN: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's Office told to expect about 40 more bodies. As of now, official death toll remains at 51.

Posted by: Baldy at May 20, 2013 09:16 PM (tyDFN)

766 Prayers for the Oklahoma Tornado victims.

I'm out.

Posted by: McGregor at May 20, 2013 09:18 PM (qo244)

767 God bless all in Oklahoma. Merciful Father, help them. Provide for them, and ease the way for those seeking lost children this night.

Posted by: and irresolute at May 20, 2013 09:19 PM (DBH1h)

768 A simple example is the zealots who insist there is no such thing as race -- even though I could give a blind DNA test to a room of people and have a computer sort them by genetic difference ... and it would group them by race/ethnicity.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 21, 2013 12:12 AM (ZPrif)

IIRC, there is greater genetic difference within a "race" than between races. In short, there is so much genetic overlap that you're really just looking at cosmetic differences.

Culture matters more, and while that tends to follow ethnicity due to children learning from their parents, it's not a genetic component. America is not a racial identity.

"If they look back through this history to trace their connection with those days by blood, they find they have none ...

but when they look through that old Declaration of Independence they find that those old men say that Â“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,Â” and then they feel that that moral sentiment taught in that day evidences their relation to those men, that it is the father of all moral principle in them, and that they have a right to claim it as though they were blood of the blood, and flesh of the flesh of the men who wrote that Declaration"

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 20, 2013 09:30 PM (A4irB)

769 Try Monty Python. Quest for the Holy Grail. Castle Anthrax. The Grail Sign and good sister Zoot who demands to be spanked. http://youtu.be/jjio-F47IfM Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 21, 2013 12:48 AM (d0bTF) And after the spanking...

Posted by: Dingo at May 20, 2013 09:35 PM (Vk2pI)

770 the Battle Nun costume should be kept simple black with white trim. But lets make the habit pop, so reverse the colors to white with black trim. Glossy black patent leather boots for stomping. The amulet is a pectoral so it rests between the breasts. The hem can't fall all the way to the ground or they would trip on their own vestments so just below the knees I would say.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 21, 2013 01:02 AM (d0bTF)

/scribbles notes

Sounds amusing enough to play with. Will add to artsy backlog, right after the video game and book backlog.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 20, 2013 09:37 PM (A4irB)

771 Fast and Furious was a direct attack on the American people .

But that was so long ago ....if there were anything to it , something would have been done by now .

Posted by: Katya Kakhov at May 20, 2013 09:38 PM (/fNtQ)

772 Fast and Furious was a direct attack on the American people . But that was so long ago ....if there were anything to it , something would have been done by now . Posted by: Katya Kakhov at May 21, 2013 01:38 AM (/fNtQ) Â¿quÃ© diferencia hay?

Posted by: Mexican Drug Lord at May 20, 2013 09:40 PM (Vk2pI)

773 Night all. Here is my favorite Doors song, "Riders on the Storm": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbx6gULYNbc

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2013 09:46 PM (Vk2pI)

774 Anna, just wanted to share another Doctor Who thought I've been mulling over.

When we met Eccleston's Doctor, he saw a mirror in Rose's place and commented on his appearance, implying he had just recently regenerated. He spent most of the season bitter and downright damaged from the events of the Time War. At the end of the season (admittedly because the actor wanted to move on), he was killed because of something Rose did, but that was in turn a result of the Daleks seeking revenge for his actions.

At the end of the second season, he lost Rose to another dimension due to another intervention of Daleks, that itself was caused by their attempt to avoid what he did to end the Time War.

Third season was a bit of a break. He found one Time Lord that escaped what he had done (The Master) who could have offered him some semblance of forgiveness/closure for what he did was killed before he could do so, returning the Doctor to the loneliness that was the consequence of the Time War.

Fourth season had him losing a companion due to the actions of Davros, which again, referenced back to the Time War and in a way was an ongoing punishment for him.

Fifth had the Master bring the Time Lords back from the last day of the Time War, and this time the consequences slew the Doctor again.

And then Matt Smith. Who has been rather frivolous. It seemed the writers were moving away from the weight of the Time War (from what I've seen Davies seemed to think they were done with it), but maybe it was just his way of pretending he was finally over it. Heck, they rewrote all of space time at the end of the season to make that point. Except ...

They also established that his success in thwarting enemies and killing lots of them led to an alliance to put an end to him, and the following season they took the form of a religion.

So my question left over from last season is: Are the Silence merely a subset of his current known enemies or are they ultimately going to be traced back to the Time Lords?

This season, in the Gaimon episode that didn't happen, Clara founf a written history of the Time War, in which she read the Doctor's name. That seems to be a pretty big clue where the plot's going. So my question is if the 50th anniversary special is going to finally put the events of the Time War to rest, and will it kill Smith's Doctor one last time?

Tangentially, will the John Hurt Doctor be using the name Doctor, or another once he broke the promise toward the end of the war? Will Clara remember the name (and does it actually matter)? And if the Valeyard is still in Smith's future, and the Time War is locked so that it can't be revisited, how exactly does he wind up in the sixth Doctor's continuity, on Gallifrey?

Posted by: Methos at May 20, 2013 09:47 PM (hO9ad)

775 I'm late getting here and no way I have been able to read all the comments, but there was mention made early on about places to donate money. I think it was Mark (forgive a problematic senior memory) who mentioned Samaritan's Purse.

http://www.samaritanspurse.org/article/oklahoma-tornado-response/

He's right, they are a fine organization and get a high rating from Charity Navigator.

http://tinyurl.com/7flp48

Let's not forget the most defenseless victims - as frightened and confused as their lost owners:

http://www.okhumane.org/

And to be vastly preferred over the Red Cross -

https://donate.salvationarmyusa.org/uss/eds/aok

Posted by: soggybottom at May 20, 2013 09:47 PM (bYEGb)

776 If Chicago Refugee is still around, *fight* the Twitter suspension. It happens to almost all of us as silencing new-comer is a favorite prog tactic. Don't let them. Also, come join us at the 'Ettes of the Moron Horde group on Ravelry. Even if you're not really interested in needlework we have lots of topics in discussion and (more importantly) it's another point of contact in case of accidental banning here (ace was banned recently, really) or suspension on Twitter.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 20, 2013 09:50 PM (lVb7s)

777 I somehow missed the fact until just now that these federal government bureaucrats are unionized. Sickening. I thought it was just TSA and air traffic controllers.

Posted by: Emily at May 20, 2013 09:54 PM (2VkGe)

778 Pls try to stop by the TPP Rally near you at Noon local time tomorrow. In Phoenix it is 4041 N Central Ave Px

Posted by: ginaswo at May 20, 2013 09:55 PM (IRZjF)

779 The "racial intolerance" map paints such a clear swath, it might as well be called the "Islam Belt."

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 20, 2013 09:56 PM (WWuYG)

780 so I've got my Mountain Dew and Doritos ready for tomorrow's presser

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 10:00 PM (vJdyz)

781

And...it's Midnight for those lurking in Mountain Time.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 20, 2013 10:00 PM (1Y+hH)

782 if anyone is bored, there is some SC2 being played

http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2013 10:02 PM (vJdyz)

783

Oklahmans are witnessing so beautifully on the news tonight... one man on Greta thanked the "God of all creation" and Jesus. CNN's John King quoted a local church's sign "When you've taken all you can stand, kneel". Even the CNN reporters are mentioning prayer.

Watching the Fox reporters is so nice; they keep asking for prayer, claiming "miracles happen", and telling those they interview that they are praying for them. Alicia Acuna, Casey Stegal, and Greg (I forget his last name) have been really mentioning God.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at May 20, 2013 10:04 PM (KL49F)

784 The moon glows through thinning clouds, the air fresh and foggy after the storms. So beautiful a Spring night here in NE Oklahoma. We had some strong winds, a little hail, but the worst dodged us. Gazing across peaceful pastures, pondering Nature's uncaring wrath, praying for the devastated, and the responders. Appreciate the links morons have posted about donations.

Posted by: mindful webworker ponders life at May 20, 2013 10:05 PM (ktPHV)

785 OMG! Did I kill the blog? More important, can I blame the dog?

Posted by: mindful webworker didn't mean to at May 20, 2013 10:22 PM (13IVx)

786

Dang, hadn't seen this...

Ray Manzarek, a founding member of the 1960s rock group The Doors whose versatile and often haunting keyboards complemented Jim Morrison's gloomy baritone and helped set the mood for some of rock's most enduring songs, has died. He was 74.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 20, 2013 10:34 PM (1Y+hH)

787 happy-ish monday night to everyone ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at May 20, 2013 10:37 PM (TvO05)

788 New thread? Wow

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 21, 2013 12:12 AM (piMMO)

789

"So if the president and the NTEU are colluding to punish their enemies, do we have any recourse at all?"

Yes, but the question is, do we have the stomach for what needs to be done?

Posted by: Gmac- Pondering the impending implosion at May 21, 2013 02:29 AM (IanLz)

790 Surrounded in my house, as I am, by splendiferous redheads, I'm already lost. A complete goner. Let my life stand in mute warning to all those young men who come into the house, trailing after my daughters. My wife just cruelly laughs.

Posted by: MTF at May 21, 2013 03:01 AM (66zNN)

791 I see no posts. Did someone break Ace?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at May 21, 2013 05:02 AM (1hM1d)

792 Ah, that's better...

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at May 21, 2013 05:02 AM (1hM1d)

793 Let my life stand in mute warning to all those young men who come into the house, trailing after my daughters. Wait...you have daughters, and they're redheads? Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at May 21, 2013 05:06 AM (1hM1d)

794

Last.

@peeteysdee

Posted by: Peetey S. Dee at May 21, 2013 10:35 AM (CcX17)

795 So if the president and the NTEU are colluding to punish their enemies, do we have any recourse at all? >>> Of course we do.

Posted by: trump at May 21, 2013 12:08 PM (F8Lnm)

Hide Comments | Add Comment | Refresh | Top

Comments are disabled. Post is locked.

495kb generated in CPU 0.2251, elapsed 0.5438 seconds.
64 queries taking 0.3618 seconds, 923 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.