May 26, 2013
— Maetenloch
Due a long busy day and a major Jamba Juice accident that necessitated completely wiping down both front seats tonight's ONT will only be 40%-assed.
Where James Taranto of the WSJ's Best of the Web recalls how a cartoon and associated story published in the Cal State Northridge Paper, The Sundial, in 1987 led to political correctness run amok, his suspension, lies and hypocrisy, education about actual journalism, a successful lawsuit against the university, and ultimately a happy and successful career. It's too good to excerpt so read the whole thing.
The vice provost of California State University, Northridge, retires today. Ordinarily that would be unworthy of a national newspaper's notice, but Cynthia Rawitch was a formative figure in your humble columnist's professional and intellectual development....That's where we came in. The journalism department at Northridge had a subscription to the Bruin, and early one evening, while waiting to put the next day's Sundial to bed, we started browsing recent issues of the UCLA paper and learned of the rooster kerfuffle. What a story! Months earlier we'd read a disturbing piece in National Review about left-wing censorship on college campuses, mostly in the Ivy League. Here was a real live case right in our front yard.
We drove the half hour to UCLA and did some reporting. While there, we picked up a copy of Nommo, the black paper. We were astonished to find a viciously racist rant against "the possessive and greedy Europeans"--meaning persons of pallor--who "suffer under the mistaken belief that a man can secure himself in an insecure world best by ownership of great personal, private wealth" and whose "abstract theories and philosophy concerning government and economics has [sic] an underlying tone of selfishness, possessiveness and greediness because their character is made up of these things."
...We wrote the story up into a 1,200-word op-ed, which we ran with the cartoon and a Nommo excerpt. It filled the Sundial's opinion page. We finished on March 4, so that the article would appear the same day the Comm Board was to make its final decision on Bell's punishment.
That is, we were not looking to create a controversy at Northridge when we wrote about the one at UCLA. We did not expect one, for two reasons. First, Northridge was a sleepy, third-tier commuter school with nothing like the pressure-cooker politics of its elite neighbor. Second, our student newspaper was overseen by journalism professors, who inculcated their students with inspiring pieties about the ideal of free expression.
As to the first point, our judgment proved reliable. Beyond a few letters to the editor, the op-ed provoked no controversy on our campus--except in the journalism department. Faculty publisher Cynthia Rawitch was not in the newsroom the day the piece ran, a Thursday. But we were there when the editor, ashen-faced, took a phone call from her that was obviously a dressing down. Rawitch ordered all the editors to gather for a Monday meeting.
And then Taranto entered the world of PC hell.
Oh and here's the rather mild cartoon that kicked the whole imbroglio off:![]()
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Posted by: AltonJackson at May 26, 2013 06:31 PM (JMmQ9)
You and MeggieMac, huh? StrictlyDickly.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 26, 2013 10:26 PM (GEICT)
In my defense the Jamba Juice was a request from Mrs. Maet which made the whole hose-down of myself and wipe-down of the Jeep all the more aggravating since I got absolutely nothing out of the whole incident.
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Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 06:37 PM (qPCAa)
Apparently Keebler Fudge Stripes and Vanilla Almond Milk were made to be enjoyed together.
Who knew?
Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2013 06:38 PM (zemCK)
Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2013 06:39 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 06:39 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: RWC at May 26, 2013 06:39 PM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 26, 2013 10:30 PM (1nIUJ)
Well, he is a cock.
Posted by: Berserker at May 26, 2013 06:40 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Cheri at May 26, 2013 06:40 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Thrawn at May 26, 2013 06:40 PM (JqnAE)
And a big thank you for your service to all our military folks here and around the world, especially those who gave their all.
Posted by: NC Ref at May 26, 2013 06:40 PM (/izg2)
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Posted by: MrCaniac, Now Known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at May 26, 2013 06:40 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 26, 2013 06:41 PM (K+I6z)
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Sure. I'll put mine at half mast in the a.m., then go to 10:00 Memorial Service, hoist it up when I get back. I have a larger flag that I fly on Memorial Day, Flag Day, 4th of July, and Veterans Day. I still have my dad's old 48 star flag, and I used to put it up on Flag Day, which is his birthday, but it has become too tattered, and been retired. I got a little, uh, allergy problem doing that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 26, 2013 06:41 PM (aDwsi)
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Posted by: puddleglum at May 26, 2013 06:42 PM (20X6f)
Eddie Albert fans might find this interesting.
8 years ago on May 26, 2005 Eddie Albert Heimberger died at his home near L.A. He was 99. He stopped using his last name professionally because he kept getting called Eddie Hamburger.
Eddie Albert is best known as the star of the 60's TV show "Green Acres" ( IMHO the best TV comedy show ever made ). Albert played Oliver Wendell Douglas, a befuddled lawyer-turned-farmer. He and Arnold the Pig were the only sane charactors on the show.
Most people don't know that he did some pre-WW 2 spying for Army Intelligence while traveling to Mexico. Apparently Nazzie U-boats were visiting that country.
But it was during the Tarawa Invasion from 20-24 November, 1943 that Albert considered the proudest accomplishment of his life. He was a Lt (jg) and the salvage officer aboard the Attack Transport USS Sheridan, APA-51. Riding in a small salvage boat he assisted in directing landing craft to the invasion beaches. After his boat lost it's propeller on the reef he transferred to a Higgins Boat (landing craft). He is credited with personally saving the lives of about 47 Marines and assisting with rescuing about 30 more, while under fire. After the battle he helped with recovering dead Marines and equipment from the water and the beach.
For his actions he was awarded the Bronze Star with "V" Device for Valor, although it would take 44 years for him to receive it.
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Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2013 06:43 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: Kal Penn at May 26, 2013 06:43 PM (zPVBH)
PRODUCTIVE FUCKING WEEK BABY,
Posted by: RWC at May 26, 2013 10:43 PM (Wl/Ht)
Very productive. Borderlands kicks ass.
Posted by: Berserker at May 26, 2013 06:45 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 06:45 PM (qPCAa)
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Back when that was first aired, I was sitting at the local lunch counter and mentioned it. The guy that I was talking to pointed down the counter, and said, "That lady stittin' down yonder is a Hatfield". I introduced myself to the lady and had an interesting conversation.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 26, 2013 06:45 PM (aDwsi)
I'm still pissed that Arnold the Pig never won an Emmy that he so richly deserved!
Posted by: Cheri at May 26, 2013 06:46 PM (EAgmr)
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Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 06:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Cheri
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Back when I was in school, I did not have an alarm clock. What I *did* have was a Radio Shack timer, and an old B and W TV. I used the pair to wake me up in the morning. Morning after morning, I was awakened by the Green Acres theme song. It was a little like Ground Hog Day. I grew to despise Mr. Haney...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 26, 2013 06:49 PM (aDwsi)
7 [360 comments] 'chemjeff'
no fuckin way, I demand a recount, I got too many votes
oh and I read that whole Taranto article, that is awesome
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 06:49 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 06:49 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 06:50 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: lou's a girl at May 26, 2013 06:51 PM (vgd4f)
I met Frank at Fort Riley in the summer of 2008, as we were both there for pre-deployment training. We were originally in the same team, but he transferred to a different one because his former CO was in it. When we deployed that October, I went to Gardez and he went north to Mazar-e Sharif. He was an SEABEE supporting construction projects for the ANA.
Like most ANA bases with US mentors, the US side was cramped, lots of tents and gravel so as not to look too permanent. The Afghan side had paved roads. This was before insider threats were common, so we thought nothing of going to the ANA side to PT, since the roads made good running tracks. Frank was a PT stud, who may or may not have been thinking of applying for BUDS when he got home. He would often run wearing his IBA, not for protection but as a weight vest.
One day in March 2009, he and a friend were running on the ANA side. They met two other Navy officers, who were also there to PT, and stopped to have a conversation. Accounts differ, but the nearest guard tower was manned by either a Taliban infiltrator who had joined the ANA, or a devout muslim who just couldn't stand two see American women in shorts and t-shirts talking to men. Either way, the guy opened fire on the group from his tower. He killed LT Florence Choe, wounded another, and had them pinned down in a ditch. They were all unarmed.
Frank stood up and charged the tower. I don't know how he expected to cover the open ground and then climb the stairs to the tower, but he charged anyway. For his effort, he was shot in the face and killed. But his action put the fear in that goat-fucking piece of shit, who then turned his rifle on himself. Frank's actions saved his two shipmates. He was posthumously awarded the Silver Star and the Purple Heart.
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Posted by: Bomber at May 26, 2013 06:51 PM (AkdCZ)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 06:51 PM (4Mv1T)
I went to Highschool with a hatfield. didn't know her well enough to have a good conversation about it. Posted by: elizabethe
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Nope. Not pissed. She could recount the whole story though...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 26, 2013 06:52 PM (aDwsi)
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Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2013 06:58 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: cm9000 at May 26, 2013 10:56 PM (vfB2N)
the good guys won
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 06:59 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2013 07:00 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2013 07:01 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 07:01 PM (qPCAa)
A hearty welcome back from the Barrel for Michael the Hobbit. Dang just showed us all how that shit's done!
Now, MtH, just pretend The Great Day Before Memorial Day Book Thread Banning Over Consecutive Comments Debacle of 2013 never happened, and enjoy the content and comments. You're also forbidden from feeling guilty about anything. The Barrel cures all!
Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 07:02 PM (8+xjO)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:02 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 07:02 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 10:59 PM (BBWjt)
Ah, thanks. It happens too seldom.
Posted by: cm9000 at May 26, 2013 07:03 PM (vfB2N)
Posted by: eman at May 26, 2013 07:03 PM (cQ4xo)
Posted by: T. at May 26, 2013 07:03 PM (7cSmf)
Lol Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 26, 2013 10:34 PM (GEICT)
How did your not drinking yesterday go?
*bounds off again*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at May 26, 2013 07:03 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 07:04 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 26, 2013 07:04 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 26, 2013 07:05 PM (XyrkB)
SUTTREE
By Cormac McCarthy.
What a strange animal the novel has become. You can have it thin or fat, with shrieks and silences in the very same book. How are we supposed to read the thing? Should we turn and turn the pages with some notion of suspense, or breathe the language in a slow, lazy love of images and the particular scratch of words? Every man can have his pick.
Posted by: Fran2fer at May 26, 2013 07:06 PM (X2MFv)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:06 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: MrCaniac, Now Known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at May 26, 2013 07:07 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: lou's a girl at May 26, 2013 07:09 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:10 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:10 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:10 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: Arbalest at May 26, 2013 07:11 PM (6GY0z)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:11 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: logprof at May 26, 2013 07:11 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:11 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 26, 2013 07:12 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:12 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: eman at May 26, 2013 07:13 PM (cQ4xo)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:13 PM (qPCAa)
Sorry girls
Posted by: Fran2fer at May 26, 2013 07:13 PM (X2MFv)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 07:13 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:14 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 26, 2013 07:14 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:14 PM (qPCAa)
No, but by analogy, when I describe a meal as "tasting like shit", I don't need to actually eat shit to know that it sucks
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:14 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:15 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 26, 2013 07:16 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Mætenloch at May 26, 2013 07:16 PM (XkotV)
Good post at This Aint Hell titled "Missing the Benghazi Point". Part of it":
The conclusion quietly reached by a lot of former soldiers, and a lot of SOCOM veterans as well as a lot of active operators is that one of two things happened; either there was a conscious choice not to rescue our people, in the hopes that it would “blow over,” or there was so much dithering that by the time anyone actually made a decision it was already too late. Both are completely antithetical to the warrior mentality. Regardless of what “considerations” need to be made, you rescue your people first. Indeed, Woods and Doherty (as well as their unnamed teammates) openly defied orders, because that is just what warriors do. The heroism that it took to load up and take on crows ranging anywhere from 60-100 armed with technicals that had anti-aircraft guns with a small SOF team can not be understated.
read the whole thing. It isn't long
Posted by: thunderb at May 26, 2013 07:16 PM (nH8jP)
Posted by: LOLDanica at May 26, 2013 07:16 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: eman at May 26, 2013 07:17 PM (cQ4xo)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 07:17 PM (4Mv1T)
I've tasted pine needles. They aren't bad. But that could explain why I don't mind gin either.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 26, 2013 07:17 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2013 07:17 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:18 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: MrCaniac, Now Known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at May 26, 2013 07:18 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:18 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2013 07:19 PM (mlSwi)
Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2013 07:19 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:19 PM (HdtPo)
Gin tastes like juniper berries. It's so you don't find out what fusel oil tastes like.
Posted by: comatus at May 26, 2013 07:19 PM (JNUY4)
Posted by: eman at May 26, 2013 07:19 PM (cQ4xo)
Ms Elisabeth, re: ban hammer this morning. It was actually no different than tonight, but the book thread tends to be sober at that hour,
RINOs!
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at May 26, 2013 07:20 PM (SFs98)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:20 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 26, 2013 07:20 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:20 PM (BBWjt)
Be very careful for the next 24-36 hours. Don't stomp or do high impact exercises. If you start hearing what seems like a huge bell tolling at decreasing intervals, immediately isolate yourself from any innocent bystanders. Also, avoid open flame.
Posted by: epobirs at May 26, 2013 07:20 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2013 07:20 PM (zPVBH)
No lime necessary.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 11:13 PM (4Mv1T)
The first time I got hammered I was 14 and it was Mickey's beer. It was the first time I drank alcohol.
Posted by: cm9000 at May 26, 2013 07:20 PM (vfB2N)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 11:20 PM (qPCAa)
yeah no kidding
maybe solitaire
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:20 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:21 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:21 PM (qPCAa)
Don't know if anybody here ever posted this, but-
Weiner-Holder 2112 !!
http://tinyurl.com/obyhgj8
Posted by: Berserker at May 26, 2013 07:21 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Dr. Suess at May 26, 2013 07:21 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:22 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 07:22 PM (zrlmb)
my ex-husband and I were at a bookstore together today (don't ask, hard to explain) and he picked up the book "1001 whiskies to drink before you die"
That struck me as a lot of whisky drinking but who am I to judge.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 26, 2013 07:23 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:23 PM (Z9EHQ)
honestly struck me as if the liberal arts portions of it were a glorified high school
The expression used to be "a high school with ashtrays," except they don't even have ashtrays any more.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 26, 2013 07:23 PM (IDSI7)
Don't rely upon elections; better to rely upon yourself, and upon the mercy of the King.
Personally, I don't have a problem with that; but then, I am not by birth American, and I am reactionary even by English standards.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2013 07:23 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 26, 2013 07:23 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 26, 2013 07:24 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:24 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: Fran2fer at May 26, 2013 07:24 PM (X2MFv)
Posted by: Dr. Suess at May 26, 2013 07:24 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:25 PM (qPCAa)
An elephant never forgets.
Posted by: Tom In Korea (author of My Teachers are Zombies, buy it on Amazon.com!) at May 26, 2013 07:25 PM (oJkTX)
more from This Aint Hell
What I think is required is for veterans to remind the GOP the important part of Benghazi: someone screwed up royally, then compounded that screw up by denying any support to our foreign service personnel and CIA officers. This administration doesn’t know how to treat warriors and is openly suspicious of the motivations of sheepdogs. They embarrass themselves, and by extension the rest of America with their befuddled tepid responses. That we don’t call them out on it, or remind them the seriousness of the consequences of their actions leaves some of the culpability in our laps as well. We need to stop being the “crazy PTSD riddled vets” and start being cogent coherent advocates for a responsible posture in our foreign affairs.
Most of all, though, I think we need to get someone with big brass ones that’s willing to call out all politicians. Warriors are men and women of action. The words we live by have power behind them because the words are inspired by deeds. They are not the silken words of career politicians but the honest words of those who have seen the tiger, and know too much bullshitting will get you killed. What we need is a veteran that isn’t afraid to look into the cameras and perhaps more importantly get in the faces of our political critters and say these immortal words: “RANGER THE FUCK UP!“
Posted by: thunderb at May 26, 2013 07:25 PM (nH8jP)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:25 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:25 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:26 PM (BBWjt)
no apologynecessary hell I can't translate what I write 1/2 the time and the pleasure was hers she was elated to interact w/ y'all
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 26, 2013 07:26 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 07:27 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:27 PM (Z9EHQ)
flow, tumble and roll—some valid and some concocted—
Posted by: Fran2fer at May 26, 2013 07:27 PM (X2MFv)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 07:27 PM (TwyVT)
Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 26, 2013 07:28 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 26, 2013 07:28 PM (RZ8pf)
97 "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Thanks for that Bomber, that had to be tough to post that!
Posted by: John Boy at May 26, 2013 07:28 PM (Z3Snn)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 11:27 PM (TwyVT)
umm.... well.....
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:28 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:28 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 26, 2013 07:29 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 26, 2013 11:28 PM (RZ8pf)
have you tried a time budget?
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:29 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:29 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:30 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: JohnKerryIsADoucheBag at May 26, 2013 07:30 PM (6sqK6)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:30 PM (qPCAa)
http://libertycon.org/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:30 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: Meggie MacNCheese at May 26, 2013 07:31 PM (YEB1C)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 26, 2013 07:31 PM (XyrkB)
chemjeff, it isn't a matter of me planning out the time or anything like that, it's that I actually was trying to do the tasks today and they kept failing. Badly. So, doing them ahead of time wasn't working.
I need last minute panic. It's the only way I function.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 26, 2013 07:31 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 07:31 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:32 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 26, 2013 07:32 PM (RZ8pf)
Hope the weather cooperates tomorrow, got to be in a parade in the AM. Local weather people are saying no more wet in the forecast but there is a frost warning tonite.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 26, 2013 07:32 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Honey Badger at May 26, 2013 07:33 PM (YEB1C)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:33 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: eman at May 26, 2013 07:34 PM (cQ4xo)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:34 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:34 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at May 26, 2013 07:35 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: lou's a girl at May 26, 2013 07:35 PM (vgd4f)
BCochran with his cheerleader wife is in Florida however.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:36 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 26, 2013 07:37 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:37 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 07:38 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:38 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 26, 2013 07:39 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:39 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 07:40 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: MrCaniac, Now Known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at May 26, 2013 07:40 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: lou's a girl at May 26, 2013 07:40 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2013 07:40 PM (YEB1C)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:41 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:42 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 07:42 PM (zrlmb)
Somewhere two yutes yur honor tried to rob a McDonald. One employee noticed they had left their getaway car in the parking lot idling and unattended. So stole their car and hid it. The two yutes were rapidly captured.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:43 PM (HdtPo)
Haute cuisine in my town is Golden Corral.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 26, 2013 11:42 PM (SAMxH)
is it wrong for me to say that I was surprisingly impressed by Golden Corral?
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:43 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2013 07:43 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 07:43 PM (4Mv1T)
Three friends find out that their teacher is a zombie (spoiler alert!) and have to stop her. Of course their teacher is a her. Because, Patriarchy.
Read the sample provided on Amazon at http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKJ70AW
It's quickly paced and doesn't take up a hundred pages to describe the damn drapes or how anyone is brooding. There's action and plenty of things to pick up on if you read between the lines and into what isn't said.
Posted by: Tom In Korea (author of My Teachers are Zombies, buy it on Amazon.com!) at May 26, 2013 07:45 PM (oJkTX)
Posted by: Cheri at May 26, 2013 07:45 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:45 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 07:46 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 07:46 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 26, 2013 07:46 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:46 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: MrCaniac, Now Known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at May 26, 2013 07:46 PM (BXLPR)
Nah, CJ, GC was a pleasant surprise for us too. I love places where they just let you graze.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 26, 2013 07:47 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 07:47 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:48 PM (Z9EHQ)
That person would then become a politician.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 26, 2013 07:48 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 07:49 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: eman at May 26, 2013 07:49 PM (cQ4xo)
And how meaningful is a ban of a performer who is unlikely to be called upon for lack of mainstream hits? Costello peaked pretty early after a flurry of releases. By the early 80s he was a critical darling who rarely got anything new on the radio outside of college stations. SNL was mainly a venue for currently charting tracks.
Posted by: epobirs at May 26, 2013 07:49 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Mr. Chips at May 26, 2013 07:50 PM (Rh37b)
Anyone? Anyone?
Posted by: CraigPoe at May 26, 2013 07:51 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:51 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:51 PM (Z9EHQ)
Yes, I will find some consolation in watching Code Pink in their disgusting vay-jay-jay suits get schooled.
Posted by: Cheri at May 26, 2013 07:51 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 07:52 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 07:52 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: "Logicus" at May 26, 2013 07:52 PM (7cSmf)
And yet somehow they've been firmly allied since Sept 11, 2001.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2013 11:43 PM (zPVBH)
How about petroleum-industy-based labor unions and the environmental movement?
Posted by: Tom In Korea (author of My Teachers are Zombies, buy it on Amazon.com!) at May 26, 2013 07:52 PM (oJkTX)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:53 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 26, 2013 11:46 PM (XyrkB)
Selling or buying?
My hands are wrinkly
Posted by: Fran2fer at May 26, 2013 07:54 PM (X2MFv)
They each figure that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". In this case the enemy of both is Christianity.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 26, 2013 07:54 PM (Quyce)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 07:54 PM (zrlmb)
How about acid? Could you pour concentrated acid on them? Because I've got plenty of acid.
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:55 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 07:56 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:56 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 07:56 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:57 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:57 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2013 07:58 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 07:58 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 07:58 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 07:58 PM (qPCAa)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN5vhvIAqY8
Posted by: epobirs at May 26, 2013 11:55 PM (kcfmt)
---
That's it. Thank you much.
Posted by: CraigPoe at May 26, 2013 07:58 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 07:59 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 07:59 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 07:59 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 08:00 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:00 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:01 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 08:02 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: MrCaniac, Now Known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at May 26, 2013 08:02 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:03 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 26, 2013 08:03 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:03 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 08:04 PM (BBWjt)
Better to start at the beginning as they say since she has only written one series. The Kencyrath Chronicles. Link below leads to the first two books that Baen combined into an omnibus.
http://www.baenebooks.com/p-873-the-god-stalker-chronicles.aspx
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 08:04 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 08:04 PM (TwyVT)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 08:04 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:04 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 08:05 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:06 PM (Z9EHQ)
More complete version with comment crawl.
Posted by: epobirs at May 26, 2013 08:06 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 08:06 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: helofixer at May 26, 2013 08:07 PM (gfsmR)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 08:08 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 08:08 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: "Logicus" at May 26, 2013 08:08 PM (7cSmf)
true fact....
Posted by: Haley Joe Ozboy at May 26, 2013 08:08 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:09 PM (qPCAa)
Funny you're talkin' restaurants. Again, you guys seem to have a knack for bringing up what I'm already interested in. Been having my first craving in many years for baby back ribs... I may have to blow some dough at Lucille's sometime soon.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:09 PM (7B7jB)
Who would have thought back then that the biggest career launched on that show was Larry David? Almost everybody else got a lot of film and TV work after Fridays ended but Larry David disappeared by and large until he started his empire.
Posted by: epobirs at May 26, 2013 08:10 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: banana slugs at May 26, 2013 08:10 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 08:10 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 08:10 PM (gqEUi)
The eight-story building and it's flat accessible roof seemed to be popular back then. The Good Old Days..........
Posted by: Haley Joe Ozboy at May 26, 2013 08:10 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:11 PM (qPCAa)
Time for the old folk. Gonna be a busy day tomorrow. Likely won't see y'all til Tuesday so enjoy the day.
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 26, 2013 08:12 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:14 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:14 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:15 PM (Z9EHQ)
Infidel, you don't know the half of it
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 08:16 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: lou's a girl at May 26, 2013 08:16 PM (vgd4f)
But you must have someplace out there that us SoCalCommies would kill for...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:17 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 08:17 PM (zrlmb)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 08:17 PM (TwyVT)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:17 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:17 PM (Z9EHQ)
(thought I'd try something along the vein of Cthulhu's "Aloha!", which if you think about it given the Lovecraftian mythos is truly, TRULY bizarre.)
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 08:18 PM (7vimm)
The Jamaica Mistaica Wings are incredible.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:18 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2013 08:19 PM (YEB1C)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:19 PM (7B7jB)
he has been going around emailing and calling employees and telling them they are not getting paid enough or they are not treated well enough; which is nonsense. All sorts of nonsense. Everyone appears to be telling me everything he is saying. I have a call from a competitor about a guy who was working for me. I have yet to return that call but I am guessing it is my "friend."
now I have to figure out what to do with him. he is in violation of a lot of stuff he signed when he started. so he could not simply go away and embarrass me now we may have to sue him for violating his non-compete and non-disclosure.agreements.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 27, 2013 12:14 AM (Z9EHQ)
I won't say "I told you so" but I really do think that based on his behavior, I had him pegged right and his previous company determined they could dump him with no loss of productivity. Despite whatever claims he told you or any "official" reason they gave for letting him go. And if he's violating terms, then I'd say call the lawyers with the option of "Cut it the fuck out" or "you and your family will be on the street when we're through with you"
Posted by: buzzion at May 26, 2013 08:20 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: lou's a girl at May 26, 2013 08:21 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Tom In Korea (author of My Teachers are Zombies, buy it on Amazon.com!) at May 26, 2013 08:21 PM (oJkTX)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:21 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:21 PM (qPCAa)
;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:23 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:23 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 08:23 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:24 PM (Z9EHQ)
Now if they'd just add one here in the Long Beach area.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:25 PM (7B7jB)
IMHO can't do much better than Papa Murphy's DeLite pizzas. Crust-to-topping ratio is favorable. Must bake yourself, but this is not necessarily a drawback.
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 08:25 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 26, 2013 08:25 PM (1nIUJ)
Oh for Pete's sake there is a male idiot in Seven Suns atop a Nightmare Horse in skivies....
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 08:26 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:26 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
Haven't been in it but still have fond memories of the pig trough (a huge banana split served in a metal tray in a wooden miniature feeding trough) and the zoo, which was like a whole platoon of pig troughs with assorted plastic animals placed in random locations to be thematic.
Posted by: epobirs at May 26, 2013 08:26 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 08:26 PM (TwyVT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:27 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 11:59 PM (BBWjt)
Heh, we're taking our football team there Wednesday for our end of the year banquet. I'm thinkin' GC is going to lose money on that deal.
Posted by: NC Ref at May 26, 2013 08:27 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:27 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Roman Polanski at May 26, 2013 08:28 PM (zPVBH)
elizabethe: I'm in Lakewood, just northeast of close to Long Beach and just west of the LA County/OC border
lol. Funny that. Old stompin grounds. Just off Delamo, Grew up in HB and worked at Sugars for a spell.
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 08:29 PM (gqEUi)
Among other, er, colorfully titled treats, their REALLY HUGE sundae dessert (which contained over 40 scoops of ice cream, I believe) was called...
The Pig's Trough.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:29 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 08:29 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:30 PM (7B7jB)
Dude, you're even more off-topic and ignorable than I am tonight.
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 08:30 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:31 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 08:31 PM (HdtPo)
Yep. His most famous bit then was Battle Boy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=h_tWnNNGKQc&feature=endscreen
They'd also have a lot of LA bands that SNL wouldn't give the time of day.
Posted by: epobirs at May 26, 2013 08:31 PM (kcfmt)
"take me to Cracker Barrel "
Choice stop when dad and I went to his reunion.
Chicken-fried steak on fried taters with biscuits covered with gravy and more biscuits. And really great wait-staff.
Aughghghg.... (drooling profusely now)
We make pizza at home and can scarcely stand to eat much of the stuff that is out there.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 26, 2013 08:31 PM (jz0+s)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:32 PM (Z9EHQ)
Late to the ONT but I want to send out some thanks to my Brothers in Arms who stood on the line with me. Watching the Military channel's presentation about the Marines at Chosin Reservoir. What a story! So, hat tip to the grunts who held on in unimaginable contditions and against all odds.
Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 26, 2013 08:32 PM (Ruc3J)
Too old?
I mean the 14 year old.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at May 27, 2013 12:28 AM (zPVBH)
It's one of those shifting definitions where a 14-year-old is a woman who is fully capable of making her own sexual decisions, but a 25 year-old is still a girl who needs to be on her parents insurance.
Posted by: Tom In Korea (author of My Teachers are Zombies, buy it on Amazon.com!) at May 26, 2013 08:34 PM (oJkTX)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:34 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:34 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: lou's a girl at May 26, 2013 08:36 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 26, 2013 08:36 PM (1nIUJ)
Posted by: lou's a girl at May 26, 2013 08:38 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 08:39 PM (HdtPo)
They also call their waitresses nurses. Got into some trouble with the State of Nevada for that at one time, I've read.
Oh: there's also a scale on-site at Heart Attack Grill. If you weigh over 350 pounds, you eat for free. Store policy-- check the website.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:39 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 08:41 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 08:42 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: The Dude at May 26, 2013 08:42 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:43 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 08:43 PM (HdtPo)
I have. Wouldn't go back.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 26, 2013 08:43 PM (jGsIV)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:43 PM (qPCAa)
Every time they publish one I have to move all my shit.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2013 12:41 AM (qyfb5)
go back to a classic, the tank on your shitter
Posted by: The Dude at May 26, 2013 08:44 PM (vJdyz)
I dunno about y'all, but I prefer to leave my shit pretty much where I leave it, without undue handling and the like.
Depressing the little handle to flush is sadly not optional, as I'm married.
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 08:44 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:45 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: buzzion at May 26, 2013 08:45 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:45 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:46 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 08:47 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:47 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 08:47 PM (TwyVT)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 08:47 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 08:47 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 27, 2013 12:46 AM (qPCAa)
but you get some titties in your face if you actually have a heart attack
Posted by: The Dude at May 26, 2013 08:47 PM (vJdyz)
Also, Heart Attack Grill has had three spokespeople since its first location opened, I believe, just over 10 years ago. All three of them have since died of... massive heart attacks.
Maybe the gimmick's worn out its welcome by now.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:48 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:49 PM (Z9EHQ)
Two playing at that game, apparently. Peter Davision-era-Doctor Who followed by Animals Shagging/Fighting/Eating Each Other (i.e. "North America") has done very, very, very weird things to my mental processes.
I adopted Whiggishness after re-reading F. A. Hayek's essay "Why I Am Not A Conservative," where Hayek declares himself an Old Whig.
But "filbert the Old Whig" is just too damn depressing to use as a handle. And "filbert the New Radical" would be too damn ambiguous."
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 08:50 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 08:50 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 08:50 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:50 PM (qPCAa)
Sorry, all. Need one to balance the universe.
"
There.
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 08:51 PM (7vimm)
I don't want Michelle Obama or Michael Bloomberg telling me what I should or shouldn't eat or drink. But I don't feel the need to force-feed myself a 9000-calorie monstrosity to prove the point either.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:51 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 08:51 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:52 PM (Z9EHQ)
Would it look like a stylized middle finger?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 26, 2013 08:53 PM (jGsIV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 08:53 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 08:53 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 08:54 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 08:54 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:54 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:55 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:57 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 08:58 PM (qPCAa)
- yankeefifth
Maybe use the Spanish-style double exclamation points. Example:
¡SCOAMF!
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2013 08:59 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 08:59 PM (Z9EHQ)
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist.
*Total* Moron movie. Over-the top oddball humor mocking and yet honoring cheap Hong Kong Kung Fu movies.
"Movie People Who Take Movies Seriously" *hate* it, of course.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2013 12:50 AM (qyfb5)
Its by the guy that directed Ace Ventura 2. Some hate is justified.
The way the shot the film is interesting, and the fight with the cow was funny, but the rest, eh.
Posted by: buzzion at May 26, 2013 08:59 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 09:00 PM (HdtPo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 09:01 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 26, 2013 09:01 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: MrCaniac, Now Known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at May 26, 2013 09:04 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 09:04 PM (TwyVT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 09:04 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 09:05 PM (qyfb5)
Drunk guy at a party answer: Well, Hayek thought conservatives were pretty much fixated on preserving the status quo whatever it may be, whereas a Whig was open to innovation where it truly represented an improvement in the human condition. I guess this would contrast with "progressiveism" which mindlessly embraces innovation simply for innovation's sake. There's a moral element to Whiggishness, but also an innovative strain that's part of what was best in the Enlightenment.
The Conservatives of old were monarchists, and "old-money" stick-in-the-mud types. I think we would call them "Establishment Republicans" or "RINOs" now. Back in the 19th Century, those guys were the Torys, and the Whigs were the radicals, the market-liberals, the classical-liberals, the libertarians. The good guys. But that's just my own personal, drunk opinion.
I'm not one of those. I'm not a progressive. I'm not a Tory. I'm not a RINO. I'm not an Establishment Republican. I'm also not a big-L Libertarian. Those guys are nuts.
And so: Whig.
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 09:05 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 09:07 PM (TwyVT)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:07 PM (qPCAa)
The pink mafia plays up to the hysterical stereotype very well.
I am so sick of the pc crowd shoving their ideas down our throats. I feel like I have nothing in common with half the population. It's disturbing and will not end well I fear.
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 09:07 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Little Tommy, World Champion paint chip eater at May 26, 2013 09:08 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: mindful webworker and the cornucopia of comments at May 26, 2013 09:08 PM (AMsS5)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:09 PM (qPCAa)
Who am I with?
Is she cute?
Will she skinny-dip?
(And, recently added: Is she the wife? If not, will the wife approve/join in?)
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 09:10 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:10 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 09:11 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: MrCaniac, Now Known as Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at May 26, 2013 09:12 PM (BXLPR)
What's the Patton quote? "You don't want to die for your country. You want that poor sorry bastard on the other side to die for his country."
Messed it up. Drunk. Close enough.
Go Down Fighting.
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 09:13 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 09:13 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:14 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2013 12:41 AM (qyfb5
You're just ahead of your time. = )
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 26, 2013 09:14 PM (A4irB)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 09:14 PM (TwyVT)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:15 PM (qPCAa)
There's this thing called "history". It's good to learn from "history". It's especially good to learn from other people's mistakes earlier in "history" so that you don't repeat their mistakes. Especially if those mistakes were lethal ones.
Who were the last non-Muslim military force into Afghanistan? The Soviets.
Did the Soviets learn lessons the hard and bloody way because they ignored the thing called "history"? You bet your sweet ass they did.
What was the absolute A-number-one lesson the Soviets learned there?
THE LOCALS ARE TREACHEROUS GOATFUCKING LIARS WITH ZERO LOYALTY. NEVER, EVER TRUST THEM. NEVER, EVER TURN YOUR BACK ON ONE OF THEM. DO NOT GIVE THEM WEAPONS. DO NOT CONFIDE OPERATIONAL DETAILS IN THEM.
For fuck's sake, by the middle Eighties, the Soviets actually were handing out illustrated pamphlets to their draftee infantrymen who were new to the theater of operations, synopsizing the warning points above. I've seen those pamphlets. You can be sure that there are copies in the multitudinous military historical libraries of the Pentagon.
Were any of those historical lessons-learned picked up and taken to heart when Americans were put in harm's way in the 'Stan? Not a single goddamned one. The lessons all got learned again the hard way, and the tuition was paid in blood and pain and bereavement.
Because, after all, "Islam is a religion of peace." That's what the worthless piece of shit George W. Bush decreed from on high, and that's what Bush's equally worthless successor has endlessly repeated.
I can't tell if this sensation I am feeling in my chest is my heart burning with unquenched rage, or if it's raw bile forcing its way back up from my stomach in vomitous revulsion. Either way, I am utterly furious and completely disgusted with U.S. command authority for their so casually having put so many Americans in positions where those Americans ended up murdered by lying Muslim goatfuckers.
History matters. Pay attention. Or else.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 26, 2013 09:15 PM (gqT4g)
The thing is, that half the population HAS TO BE TOLD what to think, feel, and believe.
And we, on our side, have totally, completely, utterly ceded all of the industries which do that telling to the Other Side.
Yes, we have been stupid.
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 09:15 PM (7vimm)
I like the rational for being a Whig.
elizabethe, I just find myself avoiding people I don't know. Even people I do know who are fkd up in the head. Looking forward to spending the day tomorrow with friends I haven't seen in awhile. I will watch them fish and be the beer tender.
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 09:15 PM (gqEUi)
Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as "bad luck."
Posted by: Tom In Korea (author of My Teachers are Zombies, buy it on Amazon.com!) at May 26, 2013 09:16 PM (oJkTX)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:16 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 09:18 PM (qyfb5)
We should have turned the entire fucking country of Afghanistan into a God-forsaken glass parking lot in 2001-2002.
The fuckers should still be glowing tonight.
"Nation-building" is madness. Nation-destroying, however, is a time-tested and utterly effective way of dealing with enemies.
Ask the Carthaginians.
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 09:18 PM (7vimm)
thank you! Screwing up the courage to start responding to the lib sister's facebook ridiculousness
Both.
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 09:19 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:19 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Pilot141 at May 26, 2013 09:21 PM (66zNN)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:21 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 09:24 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Madtom at May 26, 2013 09:24 PM (IyxzF)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:25 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Pilot141 at May 26, 2013 09:26 PM (RZ1au)
Posted by: Pilot141 at May 27, 2013 01:21 AM (66zNN)
okay, that's a little scary
good thing I'm not flying tomorrow
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:26 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Madtom at May 26, 2013 09:28 PM (IyxzF)
"Political" is defined by these people as "having an opinion contrary to mine."
They're weasels.
You need to go back to them and say "hey, I have this fabulous idea. We should advocate the advance suppression of all speech that any person in this group might have any kind of objection to! After all, it's dangerous to have contrary ideas flying around--it can cause all kinds of discord. Maybe even violence!
What's wrong with that? It's a suggestion that's no more political than your proposal to support gun control! First Amendment---Second Amendment! We should take the one at its word, and take the other to mean the opposite of what its plain words say?
Maybe when you say the word "political" it doesn't mean what you seem to think it means, hmmm????"
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 09:28 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: richatgmu at May 26, 2013 09:29 PM (v8Sa+)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 09:31 PM (TwyVT)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:31 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: filbert The Whig at May 26, 2013 09:31 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:32 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 09:32 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 26, 2013 09:33 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Pilot141 at May 26, 2013 09:33 PM (xm1Dn)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 26, 2013 09:33 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:33 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:34 PM (qPCAa)
Anyone need a drink while i'm getting up?
think I'll get a fresh beer from the fridge.
hi! don't be lonely. be here
thanks. trying to catch up on the thread with some soul coughing in the background....
Posted by: richatgmu at May 26, 2013 09:35 PM (v8Sa+)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:35 PM (qPCAa)
yeah you're right I should be here instead.
well also Neverwinter is the first multiplayer game I have attempted to play. it is a bit of a learning curve that is for sure.
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:36 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:37 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 09:37 PM (TwyVT)
if I see giant ants in Neverwinter I am quitting it for good
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:38 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:39 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 09:40 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: elizabethe at May 26, 2013 09:40 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Madtom at May 26, 2013 09:40 PM (IyxzF)
Posted by: Pilot141 at May 26, 2013 09:41 PM (o5EA8)
Posted by: Madtom at May 26, 2013 09:43 PM (IyxzF)
Posted by: Pilot141 at May 26, 2013 09:43 PM (o5EA8)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 09:44 PM (TwyVT)
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 09:44 PM (gqEUi)
I grew up in Arkansas, went to a small church with a small school. My family was good friends with another family there. They had a daughter a little younger than me, we saw each other six days a week for most of my childhood. They also had two younger kids, not in school yet. When I was in high school, that family moved to a different church, and a few years later we moved to Florida. Samuel was almost 4 the last time I saw him on a regular basis.
Samuel turned 18 six months after 9/11, and promptly joined the Arkansas National Guard. He spent a good bit of '04 and '05 in Baghdad, just outside of Sadr City. He was there when the bad guys knew there was a full-out insurgency going on, but our leadership didn't. He was kicking in doors, looking for bad guys who would happily blow up a city block just to kill a couple of Americans.
He came home, finished his enlistment, married a pretty little girl, got a good job as a small-town mailman, was active in his church. But he had PTSD. Since he had been on the cutting edge of the ugly side of that war, he was also on the cutting edge of the whole PTSD thing. And since he was National Guard, and since the VA sucks even for AD, he got some treatment but it wasn't enough. One Sunday afternoon he walked into his bedroom, took out a shotgun and put it under his chin. Ended the PTSD.
He signed his name on the dotted line for his country, did everything his country asked him, and then his country forgot about him. His name doesn't show up on lists of OIF KIAs. I don't think his family even got the Gold Star pins.
But we remember.
Posted by: Bomber at May 26, 2013 09:44 PM (AkdCZ)
Fully drunk on a long Philly layover! Over a dozen beers into it at McGillen's. Who knew America's oldest pub had Karaoke on Sunday nights?
sounds like a plan.
Posted by: richatgmu at May 26, 2013 09:45 PM (v8Sa+)
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 09:47 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Madtom at May 26, 2013 09:49 PM (IyxzF)
Posted by: Pilot141 at May 26, 2013 09:50 PM (XPZpj)
Reputation? That sounded like a challenge. I may have some jaeger in the freezer...
think I'll stick with the beer...
Posted by: richatgmu at May 26, 2013 09:51 PM (v8Sa+)
Infidel-
I was scared shitless driving home tonight after 3 beers and eating.
In my slice of nova, a cab is cheaper. shoulda' made it to my dive bar haunt.
Posted by: richatgmu at May 26, 2013 09:54 PM (v8Sa+)
Posted by: Infidel [/i] at May 26, 2013 09:55 PM (gqEUi)
Posted by: Pilot141 at May 26, 2013 10:03 PM (QlTaC)
no yeager...tina got me drunk on that once in g'ville and the world wasn't quite the same.
but I've still got Newcastle.
Posted by: richatgmu at May 26, 2013 10:05 PM (v8Sa+)
anyway, I'm in nova and got a jury summons from orlando. might have to respond because I'm still sorta attached to fl...
sounds like a sleeping pill. damn it, why do the bars in nova close at 2.
Posted by: richatgmu at May 26, 2013 10:13 PM (v8Sa+)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 26, 2013 10:16 PM (TwyVT)
Hot Damn is a red cinnamon schnapps made by De Kuyper
and I thought that this was a valu-rite kinda' joint. got another speeding ticket from Fairfax's ***finest*** too. fucking 420 horses and can't open it up without some blue lights finding me.
Posted by: richatgmu at May 26, 2013 10:17 PM (v8Sa+)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can just call me Michael at May 26, 2013 10:19 PM (7cS5n)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can just call me Michael at May 26, 2013 10:23 PM (7cS5n)
Posted by: richatgmu at May 26, 2013 10:28 PM (v8Sa+)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2013 01:18 AM (qyfb5)
... Am always on Steam if you need me for something and I'm online. =p
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 26, 2013 10:37 PM (A4irB)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 27, 2013 02:37 AM (A4irB)
yeah but you actually need to be level 15 to start a guild in Neverwinter. The whole guild process in the game is crap
Posted by: The Dude at May 26, 2013 10:56 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Throat Wobbler Mangrove at May 26, 2013 11:24 PM (EdN+L)
"It is the second time in the past months that Asharq Alawsat reports the death of King Abdullah"
Posted by: Baldy at May 26, 2013 11:24 PM (tyDFN)
It's about as cushy a job as I could hope to get but I feel remarkably little enthusiasm for it right now. Other than being paid to be there, there is absolutely nothing of interest to me in Las Vegas.
Posted by: epobirs at May 26, 2013 11:26 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: epobirs at May 27, 2013 03:26 AM (kcfmt)
hit the aquarium at Mandalay Bay and/or Red Rock
Posted by: The Dude at May 26, 2013 11:31 PM (vJdyz)
If you want to add USB 3.0 to an existing PC, Newegg has a good deal. About $10 after rebate and shipping.
Posted by: epobirs at May 26, 2013 11:33 PM (kcfmt)
It's about as cushy a job as I could hope to get but I feel remarkably little enthusiasm for it right now. Other than being paid to be there, there is absolutely nothing of interest to me in Las Vegas.
Posted by: epobirs at May 27, 2013 03:26 AM (kcfmt)
You don't care for the shows? ....or have you seen them all?
Red Square made me a chicken Kiev convert.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2013 11:44 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2013 11:53 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Ratts Alley at May 27, 2013 04:06 AM (7yx0r)
I was thinking more along the lines of "union members forbidden to carry weapons....." -- but, y'know, "arm the kids" has merit as well.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 27, 2013 12:09 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Ratts Alley at May 27, 2013 12:23 AM (7yx0r)
Posted by: Fightin' Ted Cruuuze! at May 27, 2013 12:29 AM (9ppEA)
Posted by: Bayou City at May 27, 2013 12:33 AM (9ppEA)
The shows really hold no attraction for me and are not cheap even if they did. Outside of Penn ampersand Teller or maybe the Amazing Jonathan, there isn't much there. Part of the boredom is not being free to do much of anything requiring much spending. Not if I want to cover the bills next month, especially with little indulgences like acquiring parts for my HTPC build.
Getting a Core i7-3770K for $95 (my brother has access to Intel's RetailEdge program but wasn't going to do it this year, so I'm doing the quizzes using his login) is pretty nice but I still have to come up with the money before finance charges on the credit convert it into a much greater expenditure.
It might be different if LV weren't so familiar. I average about two weeks a year there for various jobs, with the biggest being CES. At least during that there isn't much time to be bored. It's work and sleep, which os really how I like it.
Posted by: epobirs at May 27, 2013 12:41 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: cthulhu at May 27, 2013 01:03 AM (T1005)
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