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June 10, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (6-10-2013)
— Maetenloch

A lot more than you think. Your social and financial interactions and internet activity pretty much define your personal world.

And if the British had been a bit more savvy in ye olde social networke theory and had a rudimentary analytical engine (or perhaps a team of mentats), it would have been dead simple to identify a Mr. Paul Revere as a critical person among the colonial rabble rousers.

And by rounding up a handful of other nodal pre-traitors they could have nipped the whole insurrection in the bud.

What a nice picture! The analytical engine has arranged everyone neatly, picking out clusters of individuals and also showing both peripheral individuals and-more intriguingly-people who seem to bridge various groups in ways that might perhaps be relevant to national security. Look at that person right in the middle there. Zoom in if you wish. He seems to bridge several groups in an unusual (though perhaps not unique) way. His name is Paul Revere.

Once again, I remind you that I know nothing of Mr Revere, or his conversations, or his habits or beliefs, his writings (if he has any) or his personal life. All I know is this bit of metadata, based on membership in some organizations. And yet my analytical engine, on the basis of absolutely the most elementary of operations in Social Networke Analysis, seems to have picked him out of our 254 names as being of unusual interest.

...At the present time, alas, the technology required to automatically collect the required information is beyond our capacity. But I say again, if a mere scribe such as I-one who knows nearly nothing-can use the very simplest of these methods to pick the name of a traitor like Paul Revere from those of two hundred and fifty four other men, using nothing but a list of memberships and a portable calculating engine, then just think what weapons we might wield in the defense of liberty one or two centuries from now.

Quote of the Day

Having the Chamber of Commerce and the AFL-CIO negotiate the fate of American workers is like having Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union negotiate the fate of Poland.

You Commit Three Felonies a Day

According to Boston civil rights lawyer Harvey Silverglate in his ~~latest~~ 2011 book.

The average professional in this country wakes up in the morning, goes to work, comes home, eats dinner, and then goes to sleep, unaware that he or she has likely committed several federal crimes that day. Why? The answer lies in the very nature of modern federal criminal laws, which have exploded in number but also become impossibly broad and vague. In Three Felonies a Day, Harvey A. Silverglate reveals how federal criminal laws have become dangerously disconnected from the English common law tradition and how prosecutors can pin arguable federal crimes on any one of us, for even the most seemingly innocuous behavior.

So it's just a matter of digging until the government finds one of your felonies.

And if you're wondering why tech companies tend to go along with government data requests, well this is why:

We know what happened in the case of QWest before 9/11. They contacted the CEO/Chairman asking to wiretap all the customers. After he consulted with Legal, he refused. As a result, NSA canceled a bunch of unrelated billion dollar contracts that QWest was the top bidder for. And then the DoJ targeted him and prosecuted him and put him in prison for insider trading -- on the theory that he knew of anticipated income from secret programs that QWest was planning for the government, while the public didn't because it was classified and he couldn't legally tell them, and then he bought or sold QWest stock knowing those things.

One of These Guitar Companies Is Not Like the Other

And one of them got raided by armed agents (Gibson) while the other didn't (Martin).

So contrast two guitar companies, one that contributes to Republicans and one that contributes to Democrats. Both use the same type of exotic wood for their guitars. And only one of them got raided by the DOJ and Department of the Interior wearing SWAT gear and seizing company assets and ended up having to pay a big fine. The other one hasn't had a problem with the government. In light of the IRS story, it makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Student Loans and the Stiffing of a Generation

Yeah it's from Mother Jones but their point is valid.

"I understand why this has happened, and I understand why it's hard to get a handle on, but we're going to regret it if we don't do something about this. We're training a whole generation to be wary of going to college, and for those who do, we're forcing them to start out their lives living under a mountain of debt. . . . It's also yet another fault line between young and old that's not likely to turn out well. My generation got a cheap college education when we were young, and we're getting good retirement benefits now that we're old. Pretty nice. But now we're turning around and telling today's 20-somethings that they should pay through the nose for college, keep paying taxes for our retirements, and oh by the way, when it comes time for you to retire your benefits are going to have to be cut. So sorry. And all this despite the fact that the country is richer than it was 50 years ago."

The Navy Finally Stops Yelling

NAVY MESSAGES NO LONGER IN ALL CAPS.

Word went out from the Navy's Fleet Cyber Command on May 8 that the Navy's internal messaging system now had the ability to transmit in lower case as well as the traditional upper case letters.
"Therefore, it is not necessary to limit Navy messages entirely to upper case," said the directive, first reported by the Navy Times.
Of course, the message saying that upper case was no longer needed went out this way: "THEREFORE, IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO LIMIT NAVY MESSAGES ENTIRELY TO UPPER CASE."
Alone among the services, the Navy has been using all capitals for internal administrative messages from the routine to the emergency going back more than a century to the days when teletype machines only sent capitals.
The reasoning behind the change was that messages in lower and upper case were easier to read, Navy officials said. Another factor was that younger recipients of all-cap messages might tend to think that the person sending them was SCREAMING AT THEM AND REALLY TICKED OFF.

How Police Chases Go Down in Portland

All that's missing is a lost swan and a peace lily.

TSA Agents Stop Chewbacca at the Airport

I guess he was the wookie they were looking for.

Not even Chewbacca and his light saber get a free pass with airport security before being cleared to travel.
Transportation Security Administration agents in Denver briefly stopped "Star Wars" franchise actor Peter Mayhew recently as he was boarding a flight with a cane shaped like one of science-fiction's most iconic weapons.
Airport officials say they wanted to inspect the huge walking stick before allowing Mayhew, who is more than 7 feet tall, on the plane.

I suggest a new strategy: Let the wookie and his cane through.

The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.

And my twitter thang.

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1 Well, hello ONT!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 05:42 PM (DPdf7)

2 1

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 05:42 PM (HVff2)

3 the president is a scoamf (t)

Posted by: phoenixgirl@phxazgrl..back home at June 10, 2013 05:43 PM (8JJ6O)

4 My my early ONT. Is Maet off to the dark skies?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 05:43 PM (HVff2)

5 sorry...i can't bring myself to feel sorry for people with student loans.....just can't do it

Posted by: phoenixgirl@phxazgrl..back home at June 10, 2013 05:44 PM (8JJ6O)

6 7th!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 10, 2013 05:44 PM (fc7D+)

7 Dammit

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 10, 2013 05:45 PM (fc7D+)

8 Wut up?

Posted by: EC at June 10, 2013 05:45 PM (doBIb)

9 bannion give me lotto numbers now!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl@phxazgrl..back home at June 10, 2013 05:45 PM (8JJ6O)

10 first strike!!

Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 05:45 PM (s/TCI)

11 Does a time ever come when a country has enough laws?

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 10, 2013 05:46 PM (gskK7)

12 Pinata sex. Never really thought about it...but I do like candy.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 05:47 PM (Jzn7Z)

13 *doffs pants* Ahhhhh.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 05:47 PM (jIaZt)

14 I'd like to stick around to see how Peaches is doing now that Tebow has signed with her Patriots. If I can't make it, I'll leave an offering of bacon and dark chocolate.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 05:47 PM (u8ZVh)

15 Pinata sex. Never really thought about it...but I do like candy. Do you keep on "hitting" it until the candy comes out?

Posted by: EC at June 10, 2013 05:48 PM (doBIb)

16 Gentlemen, I believe we have a quorum.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 05:48 PM (GEICT)

17 "We're training a whole generation to be wary of going to college"

And this is a problem why? If it makes high school students think hard about why and how much rather than having their parents robo sign every loan document in front of them then good.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 10, 2013 05:48 PM (b9K4P)

18 Hey PG, the Powerball is $70 million annuity for Wednesday. So if Sean is the appointed lucky number picker...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 05:48 PM (AKcpz)

19 TURKEY TROTS TO WATER GG FROM CINCPAC ACTION COM THIRD FLEET INFO COMINCH CTF SEVENTY-SEVEN X WHERE IS RPT WHERE IS TASK FORCE THIRTY FOUR RR THE WORLD WONDERS

Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2013 05:49 PM (sdi6R)

20 >>Do you keep on "hitting" it until the candy comes out? Yeah, it's just like regular sex.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 05:49 PM (jIaZt)

21 Yeah, it's just like regular sex. Two, three hits and the candy comes out?

Posted by: EC at June 10, 2013 05:50 PM (doBIb)

22 Innocent Lark or Purposeful Indoctrination? Yet another example of the leftÂ’s warping of Â“genderÂ” and assault on normalcy occurred in Milwaukee, when the Tippecanoe elementary school promoted a Â“gender benderÂ” day where students were encouraged to cross-dress. The use of schools to push the idea that Â“genderÂ” is just a social construct, and to promote contra-normative activities to overthrow the Â“cis-normativeÂ” oppression of society has been remarked upon before. Though even amongst pre-pubescent kids there are measurable differences between the sexes, most of the more obvious differences become manifest after puberty is reached. Clearly, by pushing gender-bending at such young ages, the Progressive left is trying to push the gender equivalent of Lysenkoism. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=2363

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 10, 2013 05:50 PM (XvHmy)

23 give me lotto numbers now!!!! What am I? An ATM?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 10, 2013 05:50 PM (fc7D+)

24 Gee, the US Revolution not happening if the Brits had PRISM-like tech? Who could have even contemplated such a thing?

So it's just a matter of digging until the government finds one of your felonies.

Rather, saving them until you become a nuisance to the administration. Then, BOOP!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 10, 2013 05:51 PM (SX6wc)

25 Hi, NSA- I don't think Obama is a messiah of any kind. I am a Christian who believes Christ is Lord. I used to be a voting Democrat. Now I'm a DINO and I like to tell off the Democratic Party when they call for money. I make little money in a job that I generally quite enjoy. I am sometimes affected by clinical depression but my depression about Obama has nothing t do with low serotonin levels. I will continue to pray that President Obama is filled with the fruit of the Spirit and that he and his family are safe, but I never think he is a good President or agree with his policies unless you put me in Ayers' reeducation camps. After Obama I am embarassed to be called a Democrat. P.S. Most of my friends are liberals, but I guess you knew that. :^) We just don't talk about politics

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 05:51 PM (iwHSQ)

26 The reasoning behind the change was that messages in lower and upper case were easier to read, Navy officials said.

It's kinda hard to give technical instructions to non-Windows admins in all-caps when case sensitivity is important, you guys.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at June 10, 2013 05:52 PM (7xeJQ)

27 Alot of business emails are now mega-datad. Wonder hoe long it will take for the fuckups at NSA to realise they can corner the market if they read the right emails Facebook IPO etc. but what do I know, Just a ID redneck

Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 05:52 PM (s/TCI)

28 Tonight's lucky lotto numbers: 1 2 3 4 5 6 and the Powerball number is.....7!

Posted by: EC at June 10, 2013 05:52 PM (doBIb)

29 Â¿PiÃ±ata? I'd hit it.

Posted by: mugiwara at June 10, 2013 05:52 PM (hpYnL)

30 TURKEY TROTS TO WATER

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2013 05:52 PM (x4x3r)

31 Damn, not fast enough, I see.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2013 05:53 PM (x4x3r)

32 GO NAVY, BEAT ARMY!

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 05:53 PM (u8ZVh)

Bah. Mommy Jones article didn't connected the student loan bubbled directly to the cost of tuition like they should have. Cut that off and watch college costs decline. The chronicle of higher education some time back had a huge expose on this mess, college presidents admit they fudge the numbers to ensure the maximum amount of federal money, be it grants, loans, whatever, flow in.

And this doesn't even account for the for profit colleges, some of which quite obviously prey on the fact that people think Al financial aid is free even the cash they get back from loan overpayment.

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at June 10, 2013 05:53 PM (GaqMa)

34 Do you keep on "hitting" it until the candy comes out? Yeah, it's just like regular sex. Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 09:49 PM (jIaZt) My kids are looking at me wondering why I'm laughing my ass off right now.

Posted by: spypeach at June 10, 2013 05:54 PM (0n1+D)

35 Gentlemen, I believe we have a quorum. Good evening, Mr Chairman.

Posted by: EC at June 10, 2013 05:54 PM (doBIb)

36 Ladies, Morons, Good evening.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 05:54 PM (4Mv1T)

37 >>>Two, three hits and the candy comes out? What are you, some kind of Olympic athlete?

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 05:55 PM (jIaZt)

38 I am sometimes affected by clinical depression? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 09:51 PM (iwHSQ) ------ ATF will be by for any firearms you may have shortly.

Posted by: Cate in IN at June 10, 2013 05:55 PM (1JJGO)

39

The metadata is the shit they want.

Oh, but it's just this stuff, like, this META data, it's not even real, it's like, imaginary, we could only scape by with just that, oh, don't worry.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at June 10, 2013 05:55 PM (HQml1)

40 Ladies, Morons, Good evening. Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 09:54 PM (4Mv1T) Howdy Hey my wife cooked with mayonaise lask week. Had to purchase a new jar, since the other one expired in April....

Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 05:56 PM (s/TCI)

41 Good evening, Mr Chairman. Posted by: EC at June 10, 2013 09:54 PM (doBIb) Good evening. I'm waiting for the Sergeant at Arms to call us to order....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 05:57 PM (GEICT)

42 No doubt some agency of the government will be by for something, but I expect I'm too unimportant to be bothered with right now. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 05:57 PM (iwHSQ)

43 I am sometimes affected by clinical depression? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 09:51 PM (iwHSQ) details?

Posted by: The NSA at June 10, 2013 05:57 PM (s/TCI)

44 I had a whole bunch of avb calories left tonight so I treated myself to a small DQ Choco-Cherry Blizzard. I'm feeling happy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 05:57 PM (DPdf7)

Do you keep on "hitting" it until the candy comes out?

Only if your dick is swung around by Mexican children wearing blindfolds.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at June 10, 2013 05:57 PM (lr3d7)

46 So what is the rest of the Gibson guitar story? In light of the comparison with Martin, is there a lawsuit in the works?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at June 10, 2013 05:58 PM (jz0+s)

47 Jake- You don't know how proud that makes me, cooking with mayo. Hopefully it was Dukes.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 05:58 PM (4Mv1T)

48 ATF will be by for any firearms you may have shortly. Posted by: Cate in IN at June 10, 2013 09:55 PM (1JJGO) yours too #wiseass

Posted by: The NSA at June 10, 2013 05:58 PM (s/TCI)

49 BC, you watching The Voice?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 05:58 PM (DPdf7)

50 That's a fine example of how each of us commits three felonies a day. I'm going to have to watch all that insider trading based on my insider knowledge. I need to buy that book to see what else I'm doing wrong.

Posted by: bour3 at June 10, 2013 05:58 PM (5x3+2)

51 Ypu already have the details, NSA so blow it out your nose. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 05:59 PM (iwHSQ)

52 I am pretty sure that the British already knew that Revere was a person to keep an eye on well before the beginning of the war. He wasn't operating completely in the shadows - none of the Patriots were.

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 10, 2013 05:59 PM (0kU93)

53 RE: Meta data -> guilt by association

Merely knowing that individuals share a common membership in an organization is not sufficient. If you really want to know which 19 members of an organization are going to hijack passenger jets and fly them into tall buildings, you need inside information, an informant.

One influential individual might have the ability to motivate thousands. One individual among the thousands might have influence over a handful. Knowing which handful of the thousands of possibilities requires more than association.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 10, 2013 05:59 PM (s8Gga)

54 35 Gentlemen, I believe we have a quorum. Good evening, Mr Chairman. I second that

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 06:00 PM (HVff2)

55 Prediction: there will be a "major announcement" from the White House about a "major victory in the war on terror" thanks to the amazing work of the NSA monitoring system. I'm betting on Thursday, so they can hustle out the sockpuppets to the weekend news shows.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 06:00 PM (1NbZy)

>>> Gentlemen, I believe we have a quorum.

Is that easier or harder to fuck than a Pinata?

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 06:00 PM (Jzn7Z)

57 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 06:00 PM (JMmQ9)

58 The fed govt has to stop guaranteeing $100k loans to 18 yr olds who have no job. Add to that the fact they go for a German Polka Dancing degree that pays $0 per year salary. They quit paying the loan...we all know who gets boned then. As I've heard here before: the stupid, it burns!

Posted by: loneduck at June 10, 2013 06:00 PM (trhwS)

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 09:58 PM (DPdf7)

If he is I don't feel so bad watching it. Also my wife likes it.

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at June 10, 2013 06:00 PM (GaqMa)

Old and busted: I can do six impossible things before breakfast.

New hotness: I can unwittingly commit six felonies from my laptop while sipping my morning coffee.

Of course, sipping coffee might itself be a felony...

Posted by: Conserative Crank at June 10, 2013 06:00 PM (bNYYG)

61 49 BC, you watching The Voice? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 09:58 PM (DPdf7) Not tonight. Sis was by to drop off her kid. He's staying with us tonight and tomorrow because she's working and our mom is out of town. The ex is flipping his shit that we're watching the kid. We were discussing if he's actually stupid enough to show up here and try to start some shit. We're hoping he is.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:00 PM (GEICT)

62 By the way, I am getting goddamn tired of rain.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 06:01 PM (1NbZy)

63 Jake, You do know that the existence of mayonnaise is proof of the existence and goodness of God, don't you?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2013 06:01 PM (x4x3r)

64 Hopefully it was Dukes. Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 09:58 PM (4Mv1T) don't crush the messinger but it was store brand or maybe Best Foods or Hleemans for the east of the Mississippi peeps

Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 06:01 PM (s/TCI)

"I will continue to pray that President Obama is filled with the fruit of the Spirit and that he and his family are safe."

I admire your christian temperment but I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Personally I hope that Obama is exposed in front of the entire world as the thin-skinned, petulant wanna-be affirmative action lying boy king that he is , and that those who so cravenly supported him without question are henceforth regarded as the bootlicking parasites and/or the idiots that they truly are.

That includes you NSA lurkers.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2013 06:01 PM (HfyFm)

66 Good evening. I'm waiting for the Sergeant at Arms to call us to order.... I was actually conducting Society business. IYKWIMAITTYD. *ahem* Oyez, Oyez, the Society of Morons Who Are Outwardly Lewd But Cherish Their Marriage Vows (Grand Ewok Chapter) will now come to order. The Marginally Sober Brent Cochran presiding.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 10, 2013 06:01 PM (fc7D+)

67 Get a Room.

Posted by: Ratts Alley at June 10, 2013 06:02 PM (7yx0r)

68 Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 10:00 PM (1NbZy) I was thinking the same thing. If it happens how "transparent" this administration is yet again.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:03 PM (iwHSQ)

69 One influential individual might have the ability to motivate thousands. *** We already know abut the imams who are encouraging jihad. We had specific knowledge about Tamerlan Tsarnaev from the Russkies and Hassan was open about his beliefs. Meta data played no part in that intelligence yet still nothing was done to stop them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:03 PM (DPdf7)

70 The ex is flipping his shit that we're watching the kid. We were discussing if he's actually stupid enough to show up here and try to start some shit. We're hoping he is. *** for the child's sake, I hope he doesn't. Why is he flipping out?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:04 PM (DPdf7)

71 Maet? TB3K still at full rpm? Because you're going to need it in less than 10 min.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 10, 2013 06:05 PM (fc7D+)

72 Jake, You do know that the existence of mayonnaise is proof of the existence and goodness of God, don't you? Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2013 10:01 PM (x4x3r) That is booze bro, Christ did not turn water into mayonaise, he turned it into wine.......

Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 06:05 PM (s/TCI)

73 why didn't Snowden just file a complaint with a politician or some area of the government? you'd think he would try that first before his option.

Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 06:05 PM (7zSvv)

74 The Marginally Sober Brent Cochran presiding. Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 10, 2013 10:01 PM (fc7D+) Hmm...I'm partial to Marginally Honorable, but Marginally Sober will work. No booze tonight, but NyQuil is my friend. First, a quick piece of business. Fist bumps for Bannion on the....conducting of Society business. Second, in honor of me finally watching the last Underworld movie last night.... http://tinyurl.com/mgtouw7 And now, the floor is open for new business.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:05 PM (GEICT)

75 Holy cattle!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 06:06 PM (T1005)

76 44 I had a whole bunch of avb calories left tonight so I treated myself to a small DQ Choco-Cherry Blizzard. I'm feeling happy. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 09:57 PM (DPdf7) *Flagged for NSA review - exceeding Empress Michelle Obama's caloric restrictions* btw, some people here might be interested in this: 21 photos of Kate Upton on her 21st birthday http://tinyurl.com/nqozrkm

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 06:06 PM (UR5vq)

77 What? I was young and horny and drunk and...uh...

Posted by: joncelli at June 10, 2013 06:06 PM (vh67+)

78 Brent or Brenda?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 06:06 PM (AKcpz)

79 Well, Crotchety jarhead my praying for Obama to have the fruit of the Spirit and be physically safe doesn't mean that I don't want him to face accountability for what he done nor does it mean I don't hope his plans will fail. I also pray for this administration that "justice might rolll down like water and righteousness like an ever flowing stream."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:06 PM (iwHSQ)

80 I'm giving the finger to my webcam a lot lately. My phone went dead for a day.

Posted by: curses, tinfoiled again at June 10, 2013 06:06 PM (93bRa)

81 Why is he flipping out? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:04 PM (DPdf7) Generally, because he's a petulant man-child. Specifically, because we're watching the kid and it gives him something to bitch at my sister about.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:06 PM (GEICT)

Its been interesting to see most of the Fox pundits... both right and left... come out on the GOVERNMENTS side on their taking our Email...

The Right? Because security trumps Freedom... the Left? Obama trumps everything...

That most people think this is Unconstitutional, and that our own elected representatives KNEW about it and SAID NOTHING TO US? not an issue...

The Media, and Washington, still have each others backs...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 06:07 PM (lZBBB)

83 Christ did not turn water into mayonaise, he turned it into wine....... Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 10:05 PM (s/TCI) My brother's MIL thinks the water was turned into grape juice. I'm not joking.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 06:07 PM (u8ZVh)

I searched "Rubio" on rush's show, looks like rush meant to talk about Rubio today but didn't get to it but will tomorrow, Rubio possibly leaving the gang of 8

Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 06:07 PM (7zSvv)

85 Have you ever worked long and hard to achieve a goal, only to discover it's worthless? I'm reaching that point. I'm in a relatively obscure field, and that's fine -- I knew I was never going to get rich, but I wanted to at least gain the respect of my peers. My fellow professionals. Except that now . . . they're all a bunch of fools. I see their Facebook updates as they faithfully repost the latest bumper-sticker slogans disseminated by great minds like George Takei and Rachel Maddow, and I realize I no longer have the slightest respect for these people. Which means their respect is worthless to me. I've reached the major leagues, I'm in the playoffs, and I've discovered that I despise baseball. Unfortunately I've spent my life learning to throw, catch, and swing a bat, so there's nothing else I can do.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 06:07 PM (1NbZy)

86 Harvey Silverglate's "latest" book? Dude, that came out in 2011 and was a meme at Instapundit even before then - probably from an article he'd written

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 06:07 PM (QTHTd)

87 Did not know that about Qwest. That is fucked up.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 10, 2013 06:07 PM (ZPrif)

mmmm, Kate Beckinsale...

gotta run to the store and get a pinata, brb.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 06:08 PM (Jzn7Z)

89 My brother's MIL thinks the water was turned into grape juice. I'm not joking. Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 10:07 PM (u8ZVh) Baptist?

Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 06:08 PM (s/TCI)

90 Of course, sipping coffee might itself be a felony...

Did you file an environmental impact statement before you brewed it?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at June 10, 2013 06:08 PM (hO8IJ)

91 They make Kate Beckinsale pinatas? Uh never mind do not want to know.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 06:08 PM (AKcpz)

92 My brother's MIL thinks the water was turned into grape juice. I'm not joking.

We have had regulars in here who are pastors, or married to pastors, who think it's unBiblical to sing in church.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 06:09 PM (QTHTd)

I think sometimes conservatives/liberterians tend to brush off the security aspect as almost trivial. the key is to find the right balance b/t security and freedom.

Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 06:09 PM (7zSvv)

94 Ok, I am out. Early day again. Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 10, 2013 06:09 PM (fc7D+)

95 Speaking as an expert in Biblical exegesis, of course Woodford's and Pappy Van Winkle are proofs, but so is mayo dammit. QED.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2013 06:09 PM (x4x3r)

>> 21 photos of Kate Upton on her 21st birthday

Great.

Now I'll need a second Pinata.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 06:09 PM (Jzn7Z)

97 73 why didn't Snowden just file a complaint with a politician or some area of the government? you'd think he would try that first before his option. Good question. Rep Issa would have been more than happy to look over his data and see if there were NSA overreaches. Regardless, I'm going to hold off on Snowden until we know a little more. The sojourn to Hong Kong is making me a little suspicious, but maybe he does have a legit reason for it. *shrugs*.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 06:10 PM (UR5vq)

98 it's too bad Obama's name isn't Joffrey.

Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 06:10 PM (7zSvv)

99 48 ATF will be by for any firearms you may have shortly. Posted by: Cate in IN at June 10, 2013 09:55 PM (1JJGO) yours too #wiseass Posted by: The NSA at June 10, 2013 09:58 PM (s/TCI) Just pointing out the new reality. No offense intended. My apologies to the good Reverend.

Posted by: Cate in IN at June 10, 2013 06:10 PM (1JJGO)

100 Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 10:09 PM (QTHTd) Not me; I love to sing in church.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:10 PM (iwHSQ)

101 Gentlemen, I believe we have a quorum.

Is that easier or harder to fuck than a Pinata?

It's harder. A quorum wants to get down to business but can't decide what it wants.

Posted by: no good deed at June 10, 2013 06:11 PM (mjR67)

102 Baptist? Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 10:08 PM (s/TCI) Yep. But I'm a Baptist too and had a nice glass of wine tonight.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 06:11 PM (u8ZVh)

103 92 My brother's MIL thinks the water was turned into grape juice. I'm not joking. We have had regulars in here who are pastors, or married to pastors, who think it's unBiblical to sing in church. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 10:09 PM (QTHTd) Wonder what they think of snake handlers?

Posted by: BignJames at June 10, 2013 06:11 PM (20Mmk)

104 Bannion in and put in less than 9 minutes?!?!

Posted by: EC at June 10, 2013 06:11 PM (doBIb)

105

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 10, 2013 09:59 PM (s8Gga)

Its Meta Data... tied into Financial (from Obamacare), cross referenced with Email and social Media data...

And remember... they HAVE this data... and only need a warrant to look if they are going to use it in COURT.

Its like... hey look.... we already searched their house Judge, we KNOW its there... we just need a warrant now so we can go get it...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 06:11 PM (lZBBB)

106 We have had regulars in here who are pastors, or married to pastors, who think it's unBiblical to sing in church.

How do they reconcile that with Exodus 15?
http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Exodus_15

20 Miriam, sis of Aaron An Moses, took teh tambreen, An teh laydeez go aftur her. Teh laydeez had tambreens too An tehy dansd.21 An Miriam sanga song to tehm lyk this:

"Singa song to Ceiling Cat, cuz he wins teh day;

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at June 10, 2013 06:12 PM (hO8IJ)

107 Correct me if I'm wrong but collection of the phone numbers someone called, the number they called from, the time, and the duration is not metadata but data. Calling what the NSA collected metadata is spin.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 06:12 PM (SzAZ7)

108 82 Its been interesting to see most of the Fox pundits... both right and left... come out on the GOVERNMENTS side on their taking our Email... The Right? Because security trumps Freedom... the Left? Obama trumps everything... That most people think this is Unconstitutional, and that our own elected representatives KNEW about it and SAID NOTHING TO US? not an issue... The Media, and Washington, still have each others backs... Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 10:07 PM (lZBBB) Ruling Class vs. Country Class. This whole kerfuffle serves to show us who is on our side and who isn't.

Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2013 06:12 PM (sdi6R)

109 Fenelon, you are a better Christian than me.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2013 06:12 PM (jNNPU)

110 out

Posted by: EC at June 10, 2013 06:12 PM (doBIb)

111 hey Dave at the NSA, Now that you know I 'rode the hobby horse' with your oldest daughter when she was 21 and I was 21, no hard feelings well i get hard ~~feelings~~ thinking about her, but it did not work out and all.

Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 06:12 PM (s/TCI)

112 104 Bannion in and put in less than 9 minutes?!?! Posted by: EC at June 10, 2013 10:11 PM (doBIb) He's an....elder statesman...of the Society of Morons Who Are Outwardly Lewd But Cherish Their Marriage Vows.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:13 PM (GEICT)

113 Humorous thought: Despite all his childlike denials, Zuckerberg is up to his eyeballs in supporting Obama, and had to have some peripheral knowledge of the NSA's data collection antics. And some wags have speculated that Facebook was invented because the NSA was tired of inputing all their bits of personal information. So maybe after all this, the stupid idea of Facebook and the idiotic idea of publicizing every bit of your personal life will crash and burn.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at June 10, 2013 06:13 PM (I2uSp)

114 My grandfather started out as a Baptist. He could put up with the no drinking, no smoking, no card-playing -- but he really liked dancing. So he quit the Baptists and became an Episcopalian. And, as a bonus, started playing cards, drinking, and smoking!

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 06:13 PM (1NbZy)

115 some churches I have gone to , all they seem to do the whole time is sing. the sermon seems like 5 minute max and real simplistic.

Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 06:13 PM (7zSvv)

116 I am pretty sure that the British already knew that Revere was a person to keep an eye on well before the beginning of the war.

Keep in mind also that there was a "cold civil war" amongst us British. Some of us, like Samuel Johnson, wanted to slap the colonials down. Others, like Burke, supported the rebellion.

Ultimately we weren't making as much money off of you as we were making from Jamaica and Barbados (and freakin' India), so our final decision was to cut our losses.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 06:13 PM (QTHTd)

117 #85 True facts of life.

Posted by: RiverC at June 10, 2013 06:13 PM (L8kvc)

118

>>> Bannion in and out in less than 9 minutes?!?!

Ask every pinata he's ever fucked. I'll bet that's a record.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 06:14 PM (Jzn7Z)

119 We have had regulars in here who are pastors, or married to pastors, who think it's unBiblical to sing in church. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 10:09 PM (QTHTd) In my experience, people who come from churches that place little emphasis on singing always have problems when they go to churches that sing even a bit more than they're used to.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 06:14 PM (u8ZVh)

120

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 10:10 PM (UR5vq)

Lets see.... last time a Politician said they were going to Jail someone, for a VIDEO.... oh... wait.... still in Jail...

Democrat Senator talks about Treason, and Death Penalty, in relation to him....

Paranoia? or a well honed survival instinct?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 06:14 PM (lZBBB)

121 So this Snowden fellow is saying he could wire-tap anyone including the President from his desk. Bullshit.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 06:14 PM (SzAZ7)

122 Dog wants a kitty.

http://tinyurl.com/c4rqyho

Posted by: Bo at June 10, 2013 06:14 PM (93bRa)

123 #115 should go to our Church. Well, if you are okay with icons.

Posted by: RiverC at June 10, 2013 06:15 PM (L8kvc)

124 No Society submissions to it, because tiny linking on the iPad is clunky as hell, and I have a nice buzz and I don't freaking want to. In other news, Atlantic City has got to be the worst city in North America, and I'm including Johnson City, TN and East St. Louis and all of Canada. I won a bunch of money, ate some really good food, got Moron drunk. But the pure trash that infests that place was enough to damn near ruin the weekend.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:15 PM (jIaZt)

125 trime, you are in the playoffs? was this an analogy? you lost me.

Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 06:15 PM (7zSvv)

126 25 Hi, NSA-

I don't think Obama is a messiah of any kind. I am a Christian who believes Christ is Lord. I used to be a voting Democrat. Now I'm a DINO and I like to tell off the Democratic Party when they call for money. I make little money in a job that I generally quite enjoy. I am sometimes affected by clinical depression but my depression about Obama has nothing t do with low serotonin levels. I will continue to pray that President Obama is filled with the fruit of the Spirit and that he and his family are safe, but I never think he is a good President or agree with his policies unless you put me in Ayers' reeducation camps. After Obama I am embarassed to be called a Democrat.

P.S. Most of my friends are liberals, but I guess you knew that. :^) We just don't talk about politics

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 09:51 PM (iwHSQ)

REALLY?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 06:15 PM (T1005)

127 I kind of like the fire and brimstone preachers who get a little sweaty up there.

Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 06:16 PM (7zSvv)

128 I think the question of financing education should be directed towards the cost rather than how to pay the cost.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 06:16 PM (aDwsi)

129 C.J Burch, FB was not first. Live Journal was full of emo kids emoting all their junk for the world before FB. And AOL helped along the delusion the Internet was a welcoming place. So got a bunch of sheep instead of wary longhorns out on the range..

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 06:16 PM (AKcpz)

130 Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 10:07 PM (1NbZy) It sounds hard. Most of my friends are stupid and uniformed politics although some very nice people, but the other day I actually found a collegeague who has become really disenchanted with Obama and it happened about six months ago so there is hope. It sounds facile but just continue to do what you do and do it well and try to separate that from the political aspects. My friends in my field are very good at what they do and so I am grateful for their interest in support of what I do, politics aside.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:16 PM (iwHSQ)

131 Oh great the aborted twin is now the GOP sock puppet troll pos

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 06:17 PM (HVff2)

132 REALLY what?!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:17 PM (iwHSQ)

133 REALLY what?!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:17 PM (iwHSQ)

134 #127 if the priest gets sweaty it's because the service is like 3 hours and, whew. Gets a bit hot in those vestments.

Posted by: RiverC at June 10, 2013 06:17 PM (L8kvc)

135

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 10:12 PM (SzAZ7)

Now add in that the Cell phone data on calls, shows what TOWER it crossed.... and thus a Location...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 06:17 PM (lZBBB)

136 what is up with all these letters to Obama on comment boards. LOL even the conservative ones are lame.

Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 06:17 PM (7zSvv)

137 Calling what the NSA collected metadata is spin. Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 10:12 PM (SzAZ7) It's like "infamous," when you are more than just famous, you're infamous!

Posted by: Lucky Day at June 10, 2013 06:18 PM (XvHmy)

138 Sorry for the double post.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:18 PM (iwHSQ)

139 RE: Mayonnaise

Keep a cold refrigerator and you won't have a problem

Peanut butter two years out of date will make you sick once and then you are immune. . . but you'll be really sick that first time.
(your experience might differ, itsan evolutionary thing, or something to do with phages)

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 10, 2013 06:18 PM (s8Gga)

140 Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 10:17 PM (7zSvv) Seriously? Ugh.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:19 PM (GEICT)

141 The thing I don't get is people say we have no privacy in telephone metadata, per court rulings, because we have "given" this info to the telephone companies. Haven't we also "given" them our calls themselves, the content of the calls? The courts are just doing what they tend to do - rule in favor of the government, and rule to find a way to give the government what they want. ALSO, people say the leaker should have given the info to select Congressmen. What good what that do? There are already Congressmen who complained about the abuses, and nothing is done. We have spent weeks reading and hearing about abuses of this government, apparently all three branches (IRS etc). How can we trust that same government to deal with whistleblower when they have shown time and again they can't be trusted?

Posted by: Baldy at June 10, 2013 06:19 PM (tyDFN)

142

Psst! Hey NSA, FBI, IRS, and all the other alphabet agencies.

There's this dude and his skanky wife living at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in D.C. It's a really big house painted white. He has domestic terrorists and moslem terrorist supporters that visit regularly. You guys should check him out. I think he's trying to destroy this country.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at June 10, 2013 06:20 PM (PBm/l)

143 My grandfather started out as a Baptist. He could put up with the no drinking, no smoking, no card-playing -- but he really liked dancing. So he quit the Baptists and became an Episcopalian. And, as a bonus, started playing cards, drinking, and smoking! Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 10:13 PM (1NbZy) I'll say this before I call it a night. I'm a Baptist who drinks and dances but doesn't smoke. I'm a proponent of the New Testament teaching that if you're around someone for whom something that is a matter of conscience will cause them trouble because they know it is a weakness or they feel strongly against it (for example, drinking) don't do it around them.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 06:20 PM (u8ZVh)

144 So eventually when 'we' get controll of the Meta data .. we are going to name every girl/woman who had an abortion since Roe V. Wade. tit for tat you fuckos. You spy on us, we spy on you Hi Dave at the NSA I didn't de-flower you daughter when she was 21yo

Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 06:20 PM (s/TCI)

145 Sure, I peeked in Kate Upton's windows but I was just collecting metadata so it's all good.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 06:20 PM (SzAZ7)

146 7zSvv Mind your manners sir. You know what's next.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 06:20 PM (4Mv1T)

147

pretty bad timing on these scandals.

oh well, I didn't really want to be president anyway. i'll have to make do to with my mansion by the ocean with a car elevator. LOL

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:20 PM (7zSvv)

148 Mister Chairman! Question from the floor.

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:20 PM (QupBk)

149 I know, right? And me with a fresh drink.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:21 PM (jIaZt)

150 Well I watched the BIG-OL apple event today, and found myself not at all convinced on this whole privacy thingy ... At all. For example, they have 'improved' the calendar app to know the following ... You have a meeting ... They know where it is and the weather, so they know how long it will take to get there ... And of course they know where you will be and the route you will take. And the app adds the travel time to the calendar app ... And it's always on, and apple gives complete access to the NSA and less cooperative info to hackers. Would anyone in their right mind put this data online? , but the fanbuoys will love it. Think lee Harvey Oswald without the motorcade But but but ... Data is innocent until it is used for cheating or EVIL. And we know how the current admin swings.

Posted by: Mephitis at June 10, 2013 06:21 PM (RDC7Q)

151 Read Philbrick's latest on Bunker Hill, and you'll see how close the relationships were, between Warren, Adams Revere, et al.

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at June 10, 2013 06:21 PM (Jsiw/)

152 what's next? why are you speaking in code tr

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:21 PM (7zSvv)

153 A pox upon the Republican Senate tomorrow. May the immigration reform too many of them work for curdle one day in their mouth at the moment of triumph.

Posted by: Mr. Pleasant at June 10, 2013 06:21 PM (fBJt1)

154 Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chewbacca. I am a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But I live on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

Posted by: Peter Mayhew at June 10, 2013 06:21 PM (JVbvk)

155 Today's Tom Sawyer isn't a mean, mean ride, it's GOP.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 06:22 PM (fNpC1)

156 So, to solve the student loan debt issue...why not just demand that colleges lower their prices, and deny any federal aid to those that don't comply? Is this insane? Yes and no. This is the policy the left agitates for in pretty much every other industry. That doesn't negate the insanity, but would provide an interesting spectacle as the left jumps to defend Harvard and the rest setting prices to exclude the hoi polloi. But, the more interesting point, IMO is that college prices are inflated specifically because of all that federal aid. Take away the federal aid and colleges would have to start making the tough choices every other business has to make.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2013 06:22 PM (zPVBH)

157 148 Mister Chairman! Question from the floor. Posted by: toby928Â© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 10:20 PM (QupBk) The Chair recognizes the Alabama/Texas gentleman...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:22 PM (GEICT)

158

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 10:14 PM (SzAZ7)

The back doors are already built into the system.... all you need is administrative access to the system...

Once a system is put in place to Wiretap... and its Automated for ease of use??? Its open to abuse from anyone with Administrative access.

Crap.... I've got access to THOUSANDS of Medical records... right now... from this computer... because I support the Electronic Medical Record Programs those records reside in...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 06:22 PM (lZBBB)

159 115 some churches I have gone to , all they seem to do the whole time is sing. the sermon seems like 5 minute max and real simplistic.
Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 10:13 PM (7zSvv)

Note for Tom Sawyer:

God knows I'm no grammar or usage Nazi and the ONT is in fact a pants and Strunk-and-White-free zone but...there are limits.

Please use proper English capitalization rules.

Why?

Because:
1) It's hard to parse and read comments with no capital letters.
2) It reeks of trollness and makes even mild-mannered commenters all twitchy and smitey.

Posted by: Mætenloch at June 10, 2013 06:22 PM (pAlYe)

160 Fucker's been shitting all over the carpet all damn day.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:23 PM (jIaZt)

161 That 3 felonies a day is pretty accurate. In my business for me to be in compliance with one regulation, I am forced to violate another regulation. Once the government comes in and does an audit, every company in my industry gets screwed. It is almost as if they want to put you in that position.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 10, 2013 06:23 PM (BXLPR)

162 2) It reeks of trollness and makes even mild-mannered commenters all twitchy and smitey. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at June 10, 2013 10:22 PM (pAlYe) He's been doing it all day.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 06:23 PM (u8ZVh)

163 If he is I don't feel so bad watching it. Also my wife likes it. *** My prediction: Chamuel, Sasha, and Danielle

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:23 PM (DPdf7)

164 143: Well, of the four activities, the only one that actually did him any harm was smoking. He drank in moderation (for the 1950s, anyway), he was a good enough card player that he won about as much as he lost and enjoyed himself doing it, and I never heard of anyone waltzing too much. But smoking got him. He was a carton-a-day man. There is exactly one photo of him -- a college graduation picture -- without a cigarette in his mouth. The only upside was that emphysema got him before he could get lung cancer.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 06:23 PM (1NbZy)

165 DC in Towson, great minds think alike.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 06:24 PM (u8ZVh)

166 Mr Chairman, a cancer is growing on our site. I speak of the tertiary idiot Tom Sawyer. Now I know it has not been our policy to banish people simple for being boring and bring the retardation upon the site but, I ask that this policy be modified in this case.

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:24 PM (QupBk)

167 I'll bet MoFo Jones would prefer "single payer" for college.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2013 06:24 PM (Bcaz1)

168 pretty bad timing on these scandals. oh well, I didn't really want to be president anyway. i'll have to makedo to with my mansion by the ocean with a car elevator. LOL Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:20 PM (7zSvv) *** Romney has enough to work with in 2012. We knew about the Black Panther Party, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, etc... Like the other establishment Republicans though, winning is less important then being nice to the Democrats...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2013 06:25 PM (zPVBH)

169

maet

I thought most people used all lower caps on the internet? my punctuation seems about the same as everybody too

I will try to do better, it's not on purpose, I just type real fast.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:25 PM (7zSvv)

170 So... jury selection started for the Zimmerman trial.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:25 PM (DPdf7)

171

2) It reeks of trollness and makes even mild-mannered commenters all twitchy and smitey.

Go with your instincts on this one. Ozzum's Razor and all that....

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 10, 2013 06:26 PM (0kU93)

172 166 Mr Chairman, a cancer is growing on our site. I speak of the tertiary idiot Tom Sawyer. Now I know it has not been our policy to banish people simple for being boring and bring the retardation upon the site but, I ask that this policy be modified in this case. Posted by: toby928Â© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 10:24 PM (QupBk) Oh I'm all for smiting. Asshole has been crapping on threads for two days. I'm in favor of banninating and call for a vote. All in favor? Aye!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:26 PM (GEICT)

173 I take that as a second. Discussion?

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:26 PM (QupBk)

174 maet I thought most people used all lower caps on the internet? my punctuation seems about the same as everybody too I will try to do better, it's not on purpose, I just type real fast. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:25 PM (7zSvv) Lemme get this straight. Apparently you're 35 and have been debating people on the internet since 1996. And you're figuring out now about lower caps being a pain in the rear end?

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 06:26 PM (u8ZVh)

175 >>>Ozzum's Razor and all that.... I lol'ed

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:26 PM (jIaZt)

176

eh, I doubt most people would even understand fast and furious.

It was so nutty most wouldn't believe it was true.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:26 PM (7zSvv)

177 Aye!

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 10, 2013 06:26 PM (0kU93)

178 It is almost as if they want to put you in that position. *** And what makes you say that Mr Gibson Guitar CEO? Oh, by the way shame about your donation history and all...

Posted by: Your Friends from the Government at June 10, 2013 06:26 PM (zPVBH)

179

>>> Bullshit.

It isn't. I've watched Federal Agents scroll through all of the active phone numbers in NYC and NJ and pick any one they wanted to tap into.

It's some scary shit.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 06:26 PM (Jzn7Z)

180 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2013 10:12 PM (jNNPU) Thanks, bu only God whether i am or not :^) I save my stomping and real crabbiness when loving liberals tell me they hope my kid dies in front of me. so I need work as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:27 PM (iwHSQ)

181 Yo! ☺

Posted by: Theresa (D) at June 10, 2013 06:27 PM (HJ/rT)

182 eh, I doubt most people would even understand fast and furious. It was so nutty most wouldn't believe it was true. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:26 PM (7zSvv) I'm going to leave now before I say some really bad words. But honey, I hope you get banned.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 06:27 PM (u8ZVh)

183 Hello, Horde? A question to the Marginally Sober Mr. Cochran of the Society of Morons Who Are Outwardly Lewd But Cherish Their Marriage Vows....does one have to be currently married to be a member of the Society? I'll need some practice in being lewd, but I'm confident I can pull that off with proper study.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:28 PM (5J54Q)

184 Posted by: Cate in IN at June 10, 2013 10:10 PM (1JJGO) howdy how is the gun thing gojng? Anna Puma here has a Beretta CX4 Storm Carbine if you want to ping here directly

Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 06:28 PM (s/TCI)

185 I'm going to leave now before I say some really bad words. But honey, I hope you get banned. Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 10:27 PM (u8ZVh) Don't go Vendette! At least put your "Aye" in first...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:28 PM (GEICT)

186 Aye! Aye! Aye!

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 06:28 PM (u8ZVh)

187 eh, I doubt most people would even understand fast and furious. It was so nutty most wouldn't believe it was true. *** See, this is the great part. You say Obama sold guns to Mexican drug cartels to stir up anti-Second Amendment efforts. He says, "No way dude!" Then you say, "Then why did you sell guns to Mexican drug cartels?" However he answers that question he loses, and the worse the answer the more votes it costs him.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2013 06:29 PM (zPVBH)

188 >>Lemme get this straight. Apparently you're 35 and have been debating people on the internet since 1996. And you're figuring out now about lower caps being a pain in the rear end? He's also Italian and Indian (dot not feather) but identifies as white. Also, thinks SoCons are the death of the GOP but supported Santorum in Aught 12. He's a enigma wrapped in mystery rolled in a douchebag.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:29 PM (jIaZt)

189

Vendette

I think it was all caps that was forbidden.

i'm lying down on my back on my bed while I type, so punctuation and capitalizing letters at beginning of sentence makes it more tedious.

my debate mastery is my superior logical reasoning skills. not spelling/grammar etc. that is what secretaries are for.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:29 PM (7zSvv)

190 That fuckin' asshole Sawyer is STILL FUCKING HERE? DON'T MAKE ME GO ALL NAVY WITH MY POSTS MOTHERFUCKER. TAKE YOUR MEDS AND GO TO FUCKING BED RETARD.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 10, 2013 06:29 PM (V1ZIU)

191 Honey Flash!!!!!!
http://youtu.be/pu7iEnQAuOQ

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 06:29 PM (AKcpz)

192

114 My grandfather started out as a Baptist. He could put up with the no drinking, no smoking, no card-playing -- but he really liked dancing. So he quit the Baptists and became an Episcopalian.

Why don't Baptists make love standing up?

Because people will think they are dancing.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at June 10, 2013 06:29 PM (zORRR)

193 A question to the Marginally Sober Mr. Cochran of the Society of Morons Who Are Outwardly Lewd But Cherish Their Marriage Vows....does one have to be currently married to be a member of the Society? I'll need some practice in being lewd, but I'm confident I can pull that off with proper study. Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 10:28 PM (5J54Q) Unfortunately for you, yes, marriage is a prerequisite for formal membership. However, please, you are welcome to break bread, drink mead and discuss the boobehs with us.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:29 PM (GEICT)

194 If I have a vote in this, I say "Aye". Whitewash the hell out of him. IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:29 PM (5J54Q)

195 It isn't. I've watched Federal Agents scroll through all of the active phone numbers in NYC and NJ and pick any one they wanted to tap into. It's some scary shit. ___ Change bitches. I brought it. Now kiss my pinky ring.

Posted by: Barack Obama at June 10, 2013 06:30 PM (zPVBH)

196 Yep. But I'm a Baptist too and had a nice glass of wine tonight. Posted by: Vendette
--------------------------------------------

Vendette-- If you haven't seen it. very funny, worth the watch, wait for the end :
Jeanne Robertson "Don't go rafting without a Baptist in the boat!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeUdZ2VkG30

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 06:30 PM (aDwsi)

197 Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 10:29 PM (jIaZt) His feet stink, too.

Posted by: BignJames at June 10, 2013 06:30 PM (20Mmk)

198 Speaking of razors.. http://tinyurl.com/m93zdyu Sorry I couldn't help myself. This the kind of stuff that you only see in the British newspapers.

Posted by: Tuna at June 10, 2013 06:30 PM (M/TDA)

199 Anybody else suffering a strange, sporadic buzzing in the optic nerves while reading some of the recent threads?

To my eyes, it's kind of like a visual tinnitus, but more banal, bitchy and whiny.

I'm going to chalk it up to insufficient ethanol consumption. And, apparently, according to CAC, to some possible SMOD foreplay tonight.

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:31 PM (7vimm)

200 He's also Italian and Indian (dot not feather) but identifies as white. ___ Does he own a 7-11 or a sub shop?

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 10, 2013 06:31 PM (zPVBH)

201 Unfortunately for you, yes, marriage is a prerequisite for formal membership. However, please, you are welcome to break bread, drink mead and discuss the boobehs with us. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 10:29 PM (GEICT) I'm honored, good sir.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:31 PM (5J54Q)

202

I will lay my head down on a rock and the moderator has my permission to chop my head right off. Please make it a clean break though.

These people need a head. I shall give them a head.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:31 PM (7zSvv)

203 Why don't Baptists make love standing up?
Because people will think they are dancing.

And if you take a Baptist on a fishing trip you have to take a second, because if you take just one you'll have to share your beer.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at June 10, 2013 06:31 PM (hO8IJ)

204 The NSA must be bored out of their skull if are taping my phones lines.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:31 PM (iwHSQ)

205 Okay, okay now. I was raised Baptist and they are nowhere near as strict as they are being made out to be.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:31 PM (DPdf7)

206 FenelonSpoke @ 180 To wear the crown of peace is to wear the crown of thorns. These are the times that try men's (and women 's) souls. The Almighty will be the final Arbiter of what we do here on this Earth, this Vale of Tears.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at June 10, 2013 06:31 PM (I2uSp)

207 Can we use that metadata model to find the common thread between all of these scandals?

Hmmmmm, I wonder who it could be???

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 10, 2013 06:31 PM (SkyIE)

208 I think it was all caps that was forbidden. i'm lying down on my back on my bed while I type, so punctuation and capitalizing letters at beginning of sentence makes it more tedious. my debate mastery is my superior logical reasoning skills. not spelling/grammar etc. that is what secretaries are for. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:29 PM (7zSvv) You've been lying in bed for two days. Not surprised. Now I'm gone.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 10, 2013 06:31 PM (u8ZVh)

209 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 10, 2013 10:29 PM (V1ZIU)

Ah, yes, others do seem to be similarly afflicted. It's not just me. That's oddly comforting.

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:32 PM (7vimm)

210 Vendette-- If you haven't seen it. very funny, worth the watch, wait for the end :
Jeanne Robertson "Don't go rafting without a Baptist in the boat!"

Reminds me of the joke about fishing with Baptists. You should always go fishing with two Baptists because if you only bring one, he'll drink all your beer.

Posted by: no good deed at June 10, 2013 06:32 PM (mjR67)

211 Let's try this again: Aye!

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 06:33 PM (JMmQ9)

212
May as well ban this asshole, he'll just keep pushing the envelope.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 10, 2013 06:33 PM (SAMxH)

213 Rand Paul for president. *** Let's just hope the worst thing he has in his background his that Aquabuddha crap, because you know Obama knows if he does. God forbid the State Media let us have a president who might have experimented with drugs in his youth...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2013 06:33 PM (zPVBH)

214 205 Okay, okay now. I was raised Baptist and they are nowhere near as strict as they are being made out to be. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:31 PM (DPdf7) So was I. I still am a Baptist. And yeah, a lot of them are. The church/school where I grew up was exactly like is being portrayed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:33 PM (GEICT)

215 #79 I told my priest I was having trouble praying for Obama, even though I knew I was supposed to.

He told me I could "pray for him to straighten up."

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 10, 2013 06:33 PM (GoIUi)

216 Two, three hits and the candy comes out? Posted by: EC at June 10, 2013 09:50 PM (doBIb) Let's ask Mr. Owl! A one,.. Two.. Thr.. Uhhhhhh Thahhreee.

Posted by: RWC at June 10, 2013 06:33 PM (Wl/Ht)

217

"I save my stomping and real crabbiness when loving liberals tell me they hope my kid dies in front of me."

At my age, there are fewer things worth coming to blows over, but that would be one of them.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2013 06:33 PM (EYfcP)

218 Rand Paul for president.

Posted by: Rant at June 10, 2013 06:33 PM (c4aAS)

219 Can we use that metadata model to find the common thread between all of these scandals? ___ Low level staffers

Posted by: Not President Obama at June 10, 2013 06:33 PM (zPVBH)

220 Alright, I'm declaring the Ayes have it. Plus the asshole basically volunteered for a banning. Maet?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:34 PM (GEICT)

221 how is the gun thing gojng? Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 10:28 PM (s/TCI) No progress today. Cleaning and laundry took up most of it. No time yet to check links in depth. Ah, Anna, yes I do believe that's who it was. Thanks for jogging my memory.

Posted by: Cate in IN at June 10, 2013 06:34 PM (1JJGO)

222 The Nighttime Hoard seems equally bored with the chew toy as the Daywalkers. Do any rise in defense?

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:34 PM (QupBk)

223 So was I. I still am a Baptist. And yeah, a lot of them are. The church/school where I grew up was exactly like is being portrayed. **** Southern Baptist or Independent Baptist?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:34 PM (DPdf7)

224 Maet- I, we, are not for censorship, but for the troll's own protection, he should be excluded from further comment.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 06:34 PM (4Mv1T)

225 And if you take a Baptist on a fishing trip you have to take a second, because if you take just one you'll have to share your beer.
Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ drinking beer
--------------------

See 210

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 06:34 PM (aDwsi)

226 Now it's time for the martyr shtick. The final stage (I hope). In the meantime, new topic, navy style: BOOBS: GOOD, OR THE GREATEST THING IN THE HISTORY OF THINGS? Discuss. At length. Using visual aids to support your position is encouraged.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:34 PM (jIaZt)

227 Speaking of Obama's enemy list. What do you guys think Kelly Ayotte has in her naughty list that Obama is using on her?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2013 06:34 PM (zPVBH)

228 In fairness to Baptists, my grandfather left the church in the 1920s. I imagine they've loosened up a bit since then.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 06:35 PM (1NbZy)

229 I hope that everyone recognizes that Obama is now on the verge of an historic achievement that will guarantee his name will be remembered forever by humanity.

If we have correctly interpreted his intentions with the DHS ammo purchases, and his statement about a civilian internal security force was true, coupled with PRISM intel on all of us - he has the potential of reaching levels of despotism that Mao, Stalin and Adolf could only dream about.

Posted by: [/i] An Observation at June 10, 2013 06:35 PM (ylhEn)

230 Southern Baptist or Independent Baptist? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:34 PM (DPdf7) Independent for years and years. Recently joined the Southern Baptist ranks. Way less strict now than when I was in school there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:35 PM (GEICT)

231

this scene is not unlike Jesus and Pilates with the mob rooting for death.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:35 PM (7zSvv)

232 205 Okay, okay now. I was raised Baptist and they are nowhere near as strict as they are being made out to be. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:31 PM (DPdf7) I think that depends on the type of Baptists we're talking about here. I've only had real experiences with two kinds...the Southern Baptist Convention churches I attended for most of my life and the independent Fundamental Baptist Churches of the type my Grandma Whitebread dragged me to as a kid. The SBC isn't as strict as reported, but the IFB types I've known automatically assume you're headed straight for hell if you're not 110 percent in lockstep with what the Man O'Gawd (i.e. the preacher) says.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:35 PM (5J54Q)

233 I'd like to stick around to see how Peaches is doing now that Tebow has signed with her Patriots. If I can't make it, I'll leave an offering of bacon and dark chocolate. ** I think she must be nursing a bottle of rum tonight.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:35 PM (DPdf7)

234

I went out with a young lady in 2005 who told me they were developing this type of system to track serial killers and ordinary criminals.

Posted by: perdogg at June 10, 2013 06:36 PM (ziD3M)

235 he has the potential of reaching levels of despotism that Mao, Stalin and Adolf could only dream about. *** I have a sinking suspicion Obama will be demanding we water the crops with Brawndo, uh, Mountain Dew soon...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2013 06:36 PM (zPVBH)

236 See 210

Nobody drinks *all* my beer.

NOBODY.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at June 10, 2013 06:36 PM (hO8IJ)

237 The Nighttime Hoard seems equally bored with the chew toy as the Daywalkers. Do any rise in defense?

He/she/it hasn't been able to get a rise out of me all day. Don't see why I should start now.

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:36 PM (7vimm)

238 TR-- Get any nasty weather today? Charlotte had a good blow/rain pass through while I was down there. Trees/powerlines down.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 06:36 PM (aDwsi)

239 he has the potential of reaching levels of despotism that Mao, Stalin and Adolf could only dream about. So he dreams perhaps. I see only trouble and blood. Just too many weapons and too much ammo in private hands.

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:36 PM (QupBk)

240 In the meantime, new topic, navy style: BOOBS: GOOD, OR THE GREATEST THING IN THE HISTORY OF THINGS? I choose B.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:36 PM (5J54Q)

241 The SBC isn't as strict as reported, but the IFB types I've known automatically assume you're headed straight for hell if you're not 110 percent in lockstep with what the Man O'Gawd (i.e. the preacher) says. *** Yep. That's why I was asking BC is he was raised Independent or Southern. Independents are very strict.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:36 PM (DPdf7)

242 226 Surprised some sharp info person on Fox has posed this question about various congress critters yet. If its occurred to us surely it's occurred to them.

Posted by: Tuna at June 10, 2013 06:37 PM (M/TDA)

243 230 this scene is not unlike Jesus and Pilates with the mob rooting for death. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:35 PM (7zSvv) I'm now dumber just by virtue of having read this.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:37 PM (GEICT)

244 my debate mastery is my superior logical reasoning skills. not spelling/grammar etc. that is what secretaries are for. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:29 PM (7zSvv) I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 06:37 PM (UR5vq)

245 BOOBS: GOOD, OR THE GREATEST THING IN THE HISTORY OF THINGS?

FUCKING AWSOME!

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:37 PM (7vimm)

246 I closed the tag, right? RIGHT?

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:37 PM (7vimm)

247 202 I will lay my head down on a rock and the moderator has my permission to chop my head right off. Please make it a clean break though. These people need a head. I shall give them a head. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:31 PM (7zSvv Give it to Tom Sawyer he asked for it, break his franking head

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 06:37 PM (HVff2)

248 What do you guys think Kelly Ayotte has in her naughty list that Obama is using on her? Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2013 10:34 PM My sacred honor precludes my telling of that steamy tale; I shant mention it again.

Posted by: Will Folks at June 10, 2013 06:37 PM (JMmQ9)

249 Jesus doing Pilates before an angry mob? Which book is that in???

Pontus Pilate I think you meant.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 06:37 PM (AKcpz)

250 Jesus was killed by exercise.

Who knew?

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:38 PM (7vimm)

251 Pontus Pilate I think you meant. He's rolling.

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:38 PM (QupBk)

252 Pilates with the mob rooting for death.

Yeah, but man, you should have seen how limber the Apostles were.

Posted by: no good deed at June 10, 2013 06:38 PM (mjR67)

253 Some of these people are evil, CJH. It wouldn't even occur to to to wish harm on the children of people who disagree with my politics but to say "I hope your kid dies in front of you in agony" because I'm conservative and to have NO other liberal object?!!. It's scary. I pray for them too, but I admit to sometimes praying with gritted teeth. I am happier on a board without any liberals I must admit. and even the ones here haven't descended to that level yet or I haven't seen it. Outnumbered I guess.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:38 PM (iwHSQ)

254 Which means their respect is worthless to me. I've reached the major leagues, I'm in the playoffs, and I've discovered that I despise baseball. Unfortunately I've spent my life learning to throw, catch, and swing a bat, so there's nothing else I can do. Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 10:07 PM (1NbZy) I hear ya. I don't know how old you are but I changed careers three times. I'm finally happy in the Nuclear field. Come to think of it, I was happy where ever I was. IA long time ago my best friend told me not to rely on others to make you happy. I know that sounds quaint and simple. But it's the truth. FK EM, nobody loves you like you do. If that's not the case, love yourself a little more. Most of us think you're a riotous person.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 06:38 PM (XIxXP)

255 201 Unfortunately for you, yes, marriage is a prerequisite for formal membership. However, please, you are welcome to break bread, drink mead and discuss the boobehs with us.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 10:29 PM (GEICT)

I'm honored, good sir.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 10:31 PM (5J54Q)

Hmmm... perhaps we need an Auxiliary Military Unit... Yes.... The UnMarried Moronic Man Brigade!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 06:38 PM (lZBBB)

256 Independent for years and years. Recently joined the Southern Baptist ranks. Way less strict now than when I was in school there. *** ahhh yes. Independent. That explains it. When someone mentions Baptist, it's usually SBC I think of.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:38 PM (DPdf7)

257 Yep. That's why I was asking BC is he was raised Independent or Southern. Independents are very strict. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:36 PM (DPdf7) Heh. Yeah, I saw that after posting my not-quite-Ace-length reply.

These days, I'm not attending either. I've been "between churches" for a few years now.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:39 PM (5J54Q)

258 MC- Lots, and lots of rain. Like you'd expect. Hopefully the Mrs made it back to Douglas safely.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 06:39 PM (4Mv1T)

259 I, x person, am not for censorship. Now please ban this person because he said tebow sucks.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:39 PM (7zSvv)

260 Rand Paul for president. Get the NSA off our backs. I don't like the government much. *** I think the yungins would line up behind him as well

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:39 PM (DPdf7)

261 >>>Pontus Pilate I think you meant. No, Ozzum's razor says it must be Pilates. It's a legal principal, you wouldn't understand.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:39 PM (jIaZt)

262 Hmmm... perhaps we need an Auxiliary Military Unit... Yes.... The UnMarried Moronic Man Brigade! Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 10:38 PM (lZBBB) I resemble that remark! How many more do we need to make a charter?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:39 PM (5J54Q)

263 25 Hi, NSA- I don't think Obama is a messiah of any kind. I am a Christian who believes Christ is Lord. I used to be a voting Democrat. Now I'm a DINO and I like to tell off the Democratic Party when they call for money. I make little money in a job that I generally quite enjoy. I am sometimes affected by clinical depression but my depression about Obama has nothing t do with low serotonin levels. I will continue to pray that President Obama is filled with the fruit of the Spirit and that he and his family are safe, but I never think he is a good President or agree with his policies unless you put me in Ayers' reeducation camps. After Obama I am embarassed to be called a Democrat. P.S. Most of my friends are liberals, but I guess you knew that. :^) We just don't talk about politics Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 09:51 PM (iwHSQ) The only thing Bammer gets filed with is the creamy nougat of his "Reggie Bar".

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 10, 2013 06:40 PM (BXLPR)

264 So, none rise in defense. Telling that.

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:40 PM (QupBk)

265 BOOBS: GOOD, OR THE GREATEST THING IN THE HISTORY OF THINGS? ___ Meh.

Posted by: Barack Obama at June 10, 2013 06:40 PM (zPVBH)

266 Independent. That explains it. When someone mentions Baptist, it's usually SBC I think of. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:38 PM (DPdf7) I was against moving to SBC. Pretty much the only one I believe. SBC has their own rep, and one that's well deserved imo.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:40 PM (GEICT)

267 Before the banning can i smoke a bowl and tell him about the great lunch I had today at The Prime Rib. Was ushered there on a chariot lead by white stallions. It was divine.

Posted by: RWC at June 10, 2013 06:40 PM (Wl/Ht)

268 this scene is not unlike Jesus and Pilates with the mob rooting for death. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:35 PM (7zSvv) Christ did pilates? you've read the Bible I see

Posted by: Jake in ID at June 10, 2013 06:40 PM (s/TCI)

269 Obama is a disorganized and incompetent boob. He gets his way because of his posing as some kind of intellectual and the supine manner in which the Media investigates his many falsehoods. Mao, Stalin and Hitler were determined and murderous psychopaths. Obama may be a megalomaniacal egotistical narcisicist, but he is not a murderous psychopath. That sort of pathology shows up early, as it did with Stalin, Hitler and Mao.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at June 10, 2013 06:41 PM (I2uSp)

270 Hmmm... perhaps we need an Auxiliary Military Unit... Yes.... The UnMarried Moronic Man Brigade! Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 10:38 PM (lZBBB) More like the Swanson Hungry Man Brigade.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 06:41 PM (XIxXP)

271 What do you guys think Kelly Ayotte has in her naughty list that Obama is using on her? *** Not a damned thing. She willingly fell in line for the next McCain mentorship.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:41 PM (DPdf7)

272 For The Dude and TPH ... you welcome perhaps
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2013/06/06/vividred-operation-vivid-nipple-anime/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 06:41 PM (AKcpz)

273 Went to an after wedding reception party when 2 Southern Baptist friends got married. That's where I learned about the keg stand. Bride came in second. I came in first.

Posted by: Theresa (D) at June 10, 2013 06:42 PM (HJ/rT)

274 Well known fact that Ozzie's Razor is only used by Sharon.

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:42 PM (7vimm)

275 More like the Swanson Hungry Man Brigade. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 10:41 PM (XIxXP) That's too rich for me. I'm on the Banquet Entree level. (Pray for me.)

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:42 PM (5J54Q)

276 I was against moving to SBC. Pretty much the only one I believe. SBC has their own rep, and one that's well deserved imo. *** Let me guess. Party their asses off them ask for forgiveness on Sunday?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:42 PM (DPdf7)

277

rwc,

can you post that letter to Obama you wrote...I wanted to show it to my wife. It was eloquent.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:43 PM (7zSvv)

278 That Paul Revere social network analysis might have been interesting had it been constrained to use only information that would have been available to the British at the time.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at June 10, 2013 06:43 PM (29vnO)

279 I always thought of Christ as more of a stairmaster guy myself. It helped his stamina when he had to climb up mountains, kind of like the actor Jeffrey Hunter whom my spouse calls "the athletic Christ."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:43 PM (iwHSQ)

280

"BOOBS: GOOD, OR THE GREATEST THING IN THE HISTORY OF THINGS?

FUCKING AWSOME!"

Keep wishin...

Posted by: Ginger Vajay-jay at June 10, 2013 06:43 PM (U7Ivf)

281 Obama may be a megalomaniacal egotistical narcisicist, but he is not a murderous psychopath. That sort of pathology shows up early, as it did with Stalin, Hitler and Mao. *** Only because we are not yet ready to fall in line. It isn't his lack of want that keeps him from it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:43 PM (DPdf7)

282 That's too rich for me. I'm on the Banquet Entree level. (Pray for me.) Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 10:42 PM (5J54Q) Then there are those who still have hope, That's the Lean Cuisine Brigade.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 06:43 PM (XIxXP)

283 Jeffrey Hunter, Captain Christopher Pike. Getting Orion action long before James 'Tomcat' Kirk ever thought of it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 06:44 PM (AKcpz)

284 261 Hmmm... perhaps we need an Auxiliary Military Unit... Yes.... The UnMarried Moronic Man Brigade!
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 10:38 PM (lZBBB)

I resemble that remark! How many more do we need to make a charter?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 10:39 PM (5J54Q)

Just don't think we'll EVER get the Obama IRS to buy off on Tax Exempt for us.... LOL...

Military? strike one.... Moron, thus in the Ace O Spades camp?.... strike two...

And... having the word MAN in it???? has to be sexist... and thus... Mighty Casey has struck out...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 06:44 PM (lZBBB)

285 Let me guess. Party their asses off them ask for forgiveness on Sunday? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:42 PM (DPdf7) Curse you, NSA! Ahem... possibly.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:44 PM (5J54Q)

286 Mmmm, Gibson Les Pauls. I bet we could put a pretty good band together from the morons. Lottsa players here from comments we've seen.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 10, 2013 06:44 PM (XihDb)

287 Someone should buy Kelly Ayotte a pair of stompy boots and move her desk so it's between Paul and Cruz.

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 06:44 PM (JMmQ9)

288 Let me guess. Party their asses off them ask for forgiveness on Sunday? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:42 PM (DPdf7) No. Lemme think how to phrase this. You know the stupid shit that Falwell and Robertson and those guys get hammered with? It's not all lib bias. SBC pastors have a rep for getting big name recognition and then saying some out there stuff.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:44 PM (GEICT)

289 @ 268

Agreed, CJ. But I doubt he'd lift a finger to stop anything such as that.

All you would get is some pontification.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 10, 2013 06:44 PM (SAMxH)

290 A strongly worded long winded pontification?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 06:45 PM (AKcpz)

291 280 Obama may be a megalomaniacal egotistical narcisicist, but he is not a murderous psychopath. That sort of pathology shows up early, as it did with Stalin, Hitler and Mao.

***

Only because we are not yet ready to fall in line. It isn't his lack of want that keeps him from it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:43 PM (DPdf7)

Uh.... not so sure about that....

Posted by: Dead Guy whose name is on an Obama Drone Checklist at June 10, 2013 06:45 PM (lZBBB)

292 Bride came in second. I came in first. Posted by: Theresa (D) at June 10, 2013 10:42 PM (HJ/rT) winner winner chicken dinner! you are a good moron-ette

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 06:46 PM (s/TCI)

293 Someone should buy Kelly Ayotte a pair of stompy boots and move her desk so it's between Paul and Cruz. Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 10:44 PM (JMmQ9) Better yet, an all expenses paid weekend with AtC.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 06:46 PM (XIxXP)

294 I always had Jesus pegged as a triathalon guy.

/honest, the sentence just poured out of my mind that way . . .

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:46 PM (7vimm)

295 You know the stupid shit that Falwell and Robertson and those guys get hammered with? It's not all lib bias. SBC pastors have a rep for getting big name recognition and then saying some out there stuff. *** There are outliers in every association.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:46 PM (DPdf7)

296 I always had Jesus pegged as a triathalon guy. He doesn't swim.

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:46 PM (QupBk)

297 That's a good bet too, just filbert. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2013 06:46 PM (iwHSQ)

298 Lean Cuisine? I'm scraping by on On-Corr.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 10, 2013 06:47 PM (l3vZN)

299 >>>He doesn't have to swim. Fixed.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 06:47 PM (4Mv1T)

300 hey

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 06:47 PM (8lmkt)

301 You know the stupid shit that Falwell and Robertson and those guys get hammered with? It's not all lib bias. SBC pastors have a rep for getting big name recognition and then saying some out there stuff. *** It's because they are so hungover on Sundays.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:48 PM (DPdf7)

302 Remember the Church Commission?
Back in the day there was suspicion that the anti-war, anti-nuke, and environmentalists (anti-development) were being infiltrated by agents of foreign powers. Jane Fonda going to North Vietnam, and John Kerry going to Paris were, well, anyway, never mind that. So it was claimed that the CIA was infiltrating the protest organizations and it was said that our government should not be spying on our own citizens, especially not by the evil CIA. If anyone was going to spy on citizens, it should be the FBI.

So we had an investigation, and it was decided that only the FBI could investigate allegations of foreign agents. Citizens who appeared to be acting in the interest of foreign governments were immune from these investigations because they were citizens, you see, and could not be traitors to their own country. Instead these protestors were true patriots trying to rescue their government from politicians who had taken the country in the wrong direction.

So now fifty years later we have news that the NSA is spying on US Citizens even though most all officials involved are saying that this surveillance is directed at foreigners outside the United States. Foreign governments apparently don't care that this is happening, nor do those governments apparently care that it's being made public, or that US Government officials are openly bragging about it.

So we need another Church Commission to prohibit the NSA from spying on US Citizens because. . . well never mind that.

Going back to 1968 and the Democrat convention in Chicago, the anti everything protesters baited Mayor Daily into a confrontation which made for some dramatic TV coverage. That's when the protesters went on their long march through the institutions; the democrat party, public education, and the news media.

So, here we are. Where will we be in 3 1/2 years?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 10, 2013 06:48 PM (s8Gga)

303 There are outliers in every association. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:46 PM (DPdf7) Very true. But the "outliers" get A LOT of attention in regards to the SBC. I had concerns, still do, about hitching the church's name to that wagon.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:48 PM (GEICT)

304 He doesn't swim. Posted by: toby928Â© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 10:46 PM (QupBk) He doesn't have to.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 06:48 PM (XIxXP)

305 Well, it seems that eleventy-thousand inches of rain in the past 20 hours is temporarily coming to an end, and we might just finish this damn baseball game. In other sports news, my 'Dores are out of the CWS. Boo.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:48 PM (jIaZt)

306 Better yet, an all expenses paid weekend with AtC. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 10:46 PM Spot on.

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 06:48 PM (JMmQ9)

307 Aye, he's driven me around the bend. Good night, horde, thanks for being here!

Posted by: Mrs Mittens, de lurking at June 10, 2013 06:48 PM (1VA3B)

308 293 I always had Jesus pegged as a triathalon guy.

/honest, the sentence just poured out of my mind that way . . .

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 10:46 PM (7vimm)

Yerah... but wouldn't his Triathalon... be a Bike Ride... a Run... and then ANOTHER RUN Across the Water?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 06:48 PM (lZBBB)

309 Hey Miss Peaches! How are you?

Posted by: Cate in IN at June 10, 2013 06:49 PM (1JJGO)

310

I think Kelly Ayotte is seeing just how hard it is to be a Republican in a blue eastern state. Soon she'll be considered the next liberal-hair icon-pantsuit wearing fashionista like Hillary.

Because I love to ask dumb questions that have probably already been touched on: Is Hillary (or Slow Joe) preferable to Rubio or Christie?

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 06:49 PM (dXPup)

311 You know the stupid shit that Falwell and Robertson and those guys get hammered with? It's not all lib bias. SBC pastors have a rep for getting big name recognition and then saying some out there stuff. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 10:44 PM (GEICT) True. Robertson is an embarassment. Falwell wasn't much better(if at all). I'm just not comfortable in the SBC anymore myself. I know church isn't about being comfortable, but I just got tired of hearing What We Ought To Do all the time but never What Was Done For Us.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:49 PM (5J54Q)

312 Keep wishin... Posted by: Ginger Vajay-jay at June 10, 2013 10:43 PM (U7Ivf) I met one in 1988, definately a 10

Posted by: Moron #3 at June 10, 2013 06:49 PM (s/TCI)

313 Posted by: The GOP at June 10, 2013 10:05 PM (7zSvv) Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:35 PM (7zSvv) Posted by: Tom Sawyer at June 10, 2013 07:09 PM (7zSvv)

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 10, 2013 06:49 PM (SX6wc)

314 HiYa Peach!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 06:49 PM (XIxXP)

315 Very true. But the "outliers" get A LOT of attention in regards to the SBC. I had concerns, still do, about hitching the church's name to that wagon. *** They certainly do. Remember the hell-raising about FBC's pastor telling the truth about Muhammad?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:49 PM (DPdf7)

316 DC, did the millions of gallons of water wash any of the political cr@p away?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 06:49 PM (AKcpz)

317 I always had Jesus pegged as a triathalon guy.

Yeah, well, He's a Patriot now, and I'd like to be the first to welcome Tammy and the other 'ettes to the Pats fangirl bench.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 06:49 PM (8lmkt)

318 Hey, Peaches! Thought about you today, of course, with the latest Patriots news, along with everybody else here! ;-)

Posted by: Theresa (D) at June 10, 2013 06:49 PM (HJ/rT)

319 305 Better yet, an all expenses paid weekend with AtC. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 10:46 PM Spot on. Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 10:48 PM (JMmQ9) Wait, what? Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:50 PM (5J54Q)

320 He doesn't swim.

Actually . . . do the triathalon rules actually require a participant to swim the aquatic portion of the course?

And, I suppose it might be a minor nit that bicycles weren't invented yet. But with God all things are possible, so . . .

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:50 PM (7vimm)

321 I think, were Jesus to have an outdoor hobby, that it would be hanggliding or free climbing.

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:50 PM (QupBk)

322 Remember the hell-raising about FBC's pastor telling the truth about Muhammad? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 10:49 PM (DPdf7) Ha! No, missed that one.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:51 PM (GEICT)

323
Hi, Peaches.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 10, 2013 06:51 PM (SAMxH)

324 >>>299 hey Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 10:47 PM (8lmkt) Hey, yourself! The Horde has been waiting patiently-ish for your thoughts on Tebow to the Pats.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:51 PM (jIaZt)

325 Also, I would like to apologize for getting on that fuckin' list last night, not an accomplishment to which I aspire. Either I have to be more reticent or y'all have to try a whole lot harder. I'm leaning towards plan B, myself.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 06:51 PM (8lmkt)

326 Good evening, Peaches.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:51 PM (5J54Q)

327 I always had Jesus pegged as a triathalon guy.

He was banned for life because he kept changing the other competitors' water into wine.

Posted by: no good deed at June 10, 2013 06:51 PM (mjR67)

328 I think, were Jesus to have an outdoor hobby, that it would be hanggliding or free climbing. Posted by: toby928Â© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 10:50 PM (QupBk) A hiker and Spelunker. The man can find his way out of a cave.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 06:51 PM (XIxXP)

329 I hope the Bruins start Tebow on Wednesday.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 06:52 PM (Jzn7Z)

330 I'm just not comfortable in the SBC anymore myself. I know church isn't about being comfortable, but I just got tired of hearing What We Ought To Do all the time but never What Was Done For Us. Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 10:49 PM (5J54Q) Our pastor does What We Ought To Do because of What Was Done For Us.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:52 PM (GEICT)

331 Someone called for a miracle?
http://youtu.be/FXH69LabyPw

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 06:52 PM (AKcpz)

332 Hey Peaches! Howz Fluffy?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2013 06:52 PM (4+PCd)

333 But it's an interesting question. Would the Son of Man have any interest in sports at all?

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:52 PM (QupBk)

334 Soon she'll be considered the next liberal-hair icon-pantsuit wearing fashionista like Hillary. *** Speaking of, Hillary now has a twitter account. https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:53 PM (DPdf7)

335

>>> I think, were Jesus to have an outdoor hobby, that it would be hanggliding or free climbing.

The guy was born to be a fisherman.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 06:53 PM (Jzn7Z)

336

mitt Romney = tom sawyer = the gop = (that person we dare not speak of)

I thought it would be obvious given the complaints about my grammar/spelling/ use of the extremely common internet slang LOL with all my various screennames.

I did not mean to deceive.

My naked neck lies available on a cinderblock if I need to be punished. All I ask is that you severe my head completely from my body on the first attempt.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:53 PM (7zSvv)

337 Our pastor does What We Ought To Do because of What Was Done For Us. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 10:52 PM (GEICT) I could live with that.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:53 PM (5J54Q)

338 >>>but I just got tired of hearing What We Ought To Do all the time but never What Was Done For Us. This is profoundly well said. Thank you.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 06:53 PM (4Mv1T)

339 But it's an interesting question. Would the Son of Man have any interest in sports at all?

Render unto Tebow that which is Tebow's?

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:53 PM (7vimm)

340 What's wrong with sucking up all of your metadata? It makes singling-out Barky's opponents easy. Huge information drag nets are great! It is great a tool at keeping us in power. And, it very useful at keeping stupid news reporters on the reservation!

In the old days I would have to double fist reporters like Chrissy Methuse and Keith Ubermann in a back room to keep them on our bus. Now, we just walk over to Eric Holder's office and pull up a chart on our victim and send it to the IRS. If necessary we throw them under the bus.

We are saving our donor's money and rolling over the opposition with little or no effort! In Washington DC we don't call that "illegal" we call it "Community Organization" ...somewhat like our union enforcers.

And, don't try to impeach Barky! We have all the digital tools necessary to find you and your family. Watching your loved ones getting Federally Fist'd or IRS'd in not a pretty picture. Good day.

Posted by: Barney F. at June 10, 2013 06:54 PM (m5Tr1)

341 lso, I would like to apologize f Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 10:51 PM (8lmkt) no apologies on the ONT, fukkin no how, no appologies Hi, This is Jake appologies for posting after my last 5 beers.........

Posted by: Moron #3 at June 10, 2013 06:54 PM (s/TCI)

342 MC- Lots, and lots of rain. Like you'd expect. Hopefully the Mrs made it back to Douglas safely. Posted by: Tobacco Road
-----

The airport is a total Charlie Foxtrot. What a complete and total mess. As you probably know, the state is trying to take it over from the city. I hope they succeed, though it seems overreach. The Left/Liberal/Progs seem unable to manage anything without screwing up. A friend of mine has taken to referring to Charlotte as 'Detroit on the Catawba'. It is stunning to me that Anthony Foxx is going to be installed as Sec. of Transportation..., without a whimper by anyone.

At any rate, retrieved the other half. Hell of a back-up on I-40 W, as a semi managed to dump it's trailer halfway over a guardrail. It was there went I went by eastbound, and they were still working on it 5 hrs. later when I passed back by. The trailer apparently un-hitched, banged it's way over the guard rail,and was dangling down the steep embankment, retained only because the trailer wheels snagged on the rail.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 06:54 PM (aDwsi)

343 fuckin' asshole bff sent me the news earlier, I was

gobsmacked. I was just on here over the weekend saying how he will play NFL football again and then Belichick goes and goes all crazy-pants. I don't know, I'm reserving judgement. If they play him as a TE or a receiver, I'm willing to be okay with that. He definitely cannot back up Tom Fuckin' Brady, that is for sure.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 06:54 PM (8lmkt)

344 337 >>>but I just got tired of hearing What We Ought To Do all the time but never What Was Done For Us. This is profoundly well said. Thank you. Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 10:53 PM (4Mv1T) You're welcome.

I'm a big believer in Grace, because if I got what I know I deserve...well, I wouldn't be here now.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:54 PM (5J54Q)

345 If I attempted a triathalon I would want Jesus there. To raise me from the dead.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 10, 2013 06:54 PM (XihDb)

346 sock fail fuckity, fuck fukk

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 06:54 PM (s/TCI)

347 I could live with that. Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 10:53 PM (5J54Q) He just finished up a multi-week series that he called "Desperate Homelives". All about relationships/roles in the family. Father, mother, parents, children, grandparents, singles. Good stuff. And boy would it rub Libs the wrong way.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:54 PM (GEICT)

348 The Replacements: All He Wants To Do Is Fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P3XiRXEKt0

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 06:55 PM (7vimm)

349 >>I think, were Jesus to have an outdoor hobby, that it would be hanggliding or free climbing. Well, sure. Head to Chattanooga any nice weekend and see 15,000 guys that look just like Him.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:55 PM (jIaZt)

350 Ha! No, missed that one. *** It was all over the national news at the time He called him a "demon-possessed pedophile" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Vines

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:55 PM (DPdf7)

351 333 Yes, and if Twitter had its way, they would have elected Hillary president this afternoon. Everyone is way too excited about her now tweeting. Sad.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 06:56 PM (dXPup)

352

Let he who has not sinned have the first chop at my neck.

Also, I am a very rich man. And very generous.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 06:56 PM (7zSvv)

353 Would the Son of Man have any interest in sports at all?

Well, his Dad is a major Pats fan . . .

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 06:56 PM (8lmkt)

354 So I dreamt a woman broke into the house the night the NSA stor(ies) came out. and I was worried she would harm my mom. She was a spook but said she worked for "Sunoco," she gave me her card which said as much. I told her I would kill her (Jody Arias style). Then, I woke up, s I do when there are disturbing dreams.

Today (in real, waking life), I was shopping and in the parking lot there was a VERY aggressive maniacal lady driver... sporting a Sunoco bumpersticker. How weird is that?

Posted by: Baldy at June 10, 2013 06:57 PM (tyDFN)

355 He was banned for life because he kept changing the other competitors' water into wine.

Posted by: no good deed at June 10, 2013 10:51 PM (mjR67)

I heard he was multiplying bread and fish, kind of raised a red flag with WADA.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 10, 2013 06:57 PM (b9K4P)

356 Good evening, all.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 10, 2013 06:57 PM (U22Yw)

357 Love the 'mats!

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 06:57 PM (Jzn7Z)

358 Jesus favors the triathalon ? Is this a Trinity thing?

Posted by: Sister Sestina at June 10, 2013 06:57 PM (ESbvS)

359 no apologies on the ONT, fukkin no how, no appologies Posted by: Moron #3 at June 10, 2013 10:54 PM (s/TCI) Oh now you say that!

Posted by: Cate in IN at June 10, 2013 06:57 PM (1JJGO)

360 Just heard on espn news: "we had a benches clearing....uh, heated conversation" I lol'ed. Baseball "brawls" are a fucking mockery. Throw a punch of sit your fat ass back down.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:58 PM (jIaZt)

361 How weird is that?

Posted by: Baldy at June 10, 2013 10:57 PM (tyDFN)

You didn't kill her? That's the weird part . . .

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 06:58 PM (8lmkt)

362 Alright, stoned as hell on NyQuil. See you Rons later.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 06:58 PM (GEICT)

363 I heard he was multiplying bread and fish, kind of raised a red flag with WADA. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 10, 2013 10:57 PM (b9K4P) I heard he was washing the feet of hookers and it was taken out of context.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 06:58 PM (XIxXP)

364 Of=or. Stupid scotch. You drunken me.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 06:59 PM (jIaZt)

365 I heard he was washing the feet of hookers and it was taken out of context. Wasn't that Rex Ryan?

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 06:59 PM (QupBk)

366 Yes, and if Twitter had its way, they would have elected Hillary president this afternoon. Everyone is way too excited about her now tweeting. Sad. *** Sad AND scary

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 06:59 PM (DPdf7)

367 362 I heard he was multiplying bread and fish, kind of raised a red flag with WADA. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 10, 2013 10:57 PM (b9K4P) I heard he was washing the feet of hookers and it was taken out of context. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 10:58 PM (XIxXP) I heard he was healing lepers without a medical degree. Really ticked off the AMA.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 06:59 PM (5J54Q)

368 350 333 Yes, and if Twitter had its way, they would have elected Hillary president this afternoon. Everyone is way too excited about her now tweeting. Sad. Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, are unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 06:59 PM (UR5vq)

369 Also, I am a very rich man. And very generous. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:56 PM (7zSvv) go away you make no sense you are not adding anything. I've been banned for less that you

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 06:59 PM (s/TCI)

370 Alternate Universe Patriots Head Coach Jones in CO would send Tim Tebow (alternately) to Dairy Queen and the weight room, and make him a fullback

Posted by: Jones in CO at June 10, 2013 06:59 PM (8sCoq)

371 Alright, stoned as hell on NyQuil. See you Rons later. *** You are always stoned on something.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 07:00 PM (DPdf7)

372 361 Alright, stoned as hell on NyQuil. See you Rons later. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 10, 2013 10:58 PM (GEICT) Yeah, some people have all the fun. G'night, BC.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 07:00 PM (5J54Q)

373 >>>because if I got what I know I deserve...well, I wouldn't be here now. There but for the grace of God... I grew up Presbyterian, but have been in the SBC the last 15 years. They really don't deal well with painting outside the lines. It's all I know how to do.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 07:00 PM (4Mv1T)

374 Google confirms that it was not Rēx Iūdaeōrum.

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 07:00 PM (QupBk)

375 @94 - Bannion. LEOFB A week or two ago someone told me that someone else had been using my close and they were angry about it. Told em it wasn't a big deal. In fact, imitation is the highest form of flattery. And BTH - Wait, what??? People trying to say singing in church is in-house Biblical? What'd they do, tear Psalm 100 (I think) out of their Bible. Excuse an old man's memory if I mess up how it starts... Make a joyful noise unto the Lord all ye lands Serve the Lord with gladness Come before His presence with singing Know ye that the Lord He is God It is He that has made us and not we ourselves We are His people, the sheep of His pasture Enter into His gates with Thanksgiving And into His courts with praise Be thankful unto Him and bless His name For the Lord is Good, His mercy everlasting His truth endureth to all generations Hey. How about that. I think I got the whole thing. Hmmph. Old man. Old for a tree. But young for a mountain.

Posted by: teej at June 10, 2013 07:01 PM (H0qOD)

376 Wasn't that Rex Ryan? *** lol

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 07:01 PM (DPdf7)

377

jake I will make an effort to never say nothing but troll and ban with a few other random words in every thing I post from this day forward.

you've given me a new leash on commenting. thank you. I will now be as interesting as you and others.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 07:01 PM (7zSvv)

378 BTW, former Mississippi State and NFL cornerback Fred Smoot did an AMA on reddit: http://tinyurl.com/klv4dat

Smoot definitely has a Moron side to him.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 10, 2013 07:01 PM (U22Yw)

379 Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, are unavailable for comment. Posted by: Thrawn
-------

Vince Foster

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 07:02 PM (aDwsi)

380 366 362 I heard he was multiplying bread and fish, kind of raised a red flag with WADA.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 10, 2013 10:57 PM (b9K4P)

I heard he was washing the feet of hookers and it was taken out of context.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 10:58 PM (XIxXP)

I heard he was healing lepers without a medical degree. Really ticked off the AMA.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 10:59 PM (5J54Q)

Yeah.... but Pontius screwed up and didn't get a DNA swab... could have solved that whole shroud mystery thing...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 07:02 PM (lZBBB)

381 Silly me, I thought Hillzilla already had a twitter account. Her manslut of a husband and their spawn each do. Wonder what took her so long?

I remain suspicious that it's really her, even though it's been verified. She is stupid, but I didn't think she was stupid enough to put "glass ceiling cracker" in her bio. What is that, something to munch on or a racial slur?

Posted by: Theresa (D) at June 10, 2013 07:02 PM (HJ/rT)

382 Oh now you say that! Posted by: Cate in IN at June 10, 2013 10:57 PM (1JJGO) there are no appologies on the ONT, ever Everyone get too drunkerd up to make sense, occasionally I'm a offender, just tell me to slep it off

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 07:02 PM (s/TCI)

383 There but for the grace of God... I grew up Presbyterian, but have been in the SBC the last 15 years. They really don't deal well with painting outside the lines. It's all I know how to do. Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 11:00 PM (4Mv1T) The way the Lutheran faith tends to divide Law and Gospel has helped me a lot, but I'm not ready to jump from the SBC to one of the Lutheran denominations.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 07:02 PM (5J54Q)

384 Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, are unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 10:59 PM (UR5vq)

THANK YOU!!!! That keeps getting lost somehow.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:03 PM (8lmkt)

385 Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 10:59 PM (s/TCI)

Didn't your mama tell you to ignore the strange muttering man with the wet spot in the front of his pants who you met shuffling down the street that one day?

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 07:03 PM (7vimm)

386 It's not their ideas (or lack thereof) that bother me, really -- it's the airheadedness and blind partisanship. People whose work I once enjoyed, people who I once admired, repeating obvious falsehoods and applauding blatantly idiotic arguments simply because they agree with them. It poisons everything. Just as knowing Ezra Pound was a fascist makes it impossible to read his poems without wondering "what does he mean by that?" Now I can't enjoy the work of these airheaded liberals because I'm constantly searching for the worm in the apple. And usually finding it. Don't they realize how much they're degrading themselves? Sacrificing their own honesty and integrity in the service of a corrupt idiot child who views them with open contempt? Or are their souls so shriveled that they secretly enjoy the feeling of power, knowing that "their side" is the one that can lie, and rig elections, and threaten, and bully without consequences? Would Mark Twain be a greater author if all his novels were full of sniggering jabs at Winfield S. Hancock?

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 07:03 PM (1NbZy)

387 Mmmm, Gibson Les Pauls. I bet we could put a pretty good band together from the morons. Lottsa players here from comments we've seen. Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 10, 2013 10:44 PM

Fuck yeah, I have a small stash of les pauls. Even though I'm mostly a V player, I have to give the Les Paul its proper due. They crank.

Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 07:03 PM (FMbng)

388 Hillary has a Twitter account? And no one has yet said "What difference does it make?" I'm disappointed, Horde.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 07:03 PM (5J54Q)

389 The way the Lutheran faith tends to divide Law and Gospel has helped me a lot, but I'm not ready to jump from the SBC to one of the Lutheran denominations. Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 11:02 PM (5J54Q) We are Missouri synod. Good pastor. Good message, 0 libtard crap.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 07:04 PM (XIxXP)

390 I will now be as interesting as you and others. And yet, not one person finds you interesting enough to even mildly resist the idea of your banishment. Perhaps you are just too smart for us. That's the way it is in meatspace for you isn't it? People are just put off by your wit and brilliance. It's a burden few can bear.

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 07:05 PM (QupBk)

391 I didn't think she was stupid enough to put "glass ceiling cracker" in her bio.
----------------

My immediate thought was racial slur..., on herself. Self-belittling..., because humble.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 07:05 PM (aDwsi)

392

Hey guys.

Did you hear about troll? Troll got banned. LOL Troll sucked. Stupid troll had it coming. why? because he trolled like a troll.

What is trolling you say? Trolling is when you troll real hard because all you are is a stupid troll who trolls people just to troll them.

That's when I saw a little cleavage to the moderator and offer him a good time if he takes care of this stupid troll.

I hope you get cancer and you die you stupid troll.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 07:05 PM (7zSvv)

393 there are no appologies on the ONT, ever Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 11:02 PM (s/TCI) Next morning is awfully awkward though.

Posted by: RWC at June 10, 2013 07:05 PM (Wl/Ht)

394 Fuck yeah, I have a small stash of les pauls. Even though I'm mostly a V player, I have to give the Les Paul its proper due. They crank. Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 11:03 PM (FMbng) I don't play, but I do sing (yeah, I know we're a dime a dozen). I love hearing great guitar playing.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 07:05 PM (5J54Q)

395 Not one. Telling.

Posted by: toby928© Alabama Alumnus and Native Texan, now with twice the insufferability at June 10, 2013 07:06 PM (QupBk)

396 psycho's off his meds.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 10, 2013 07:07 PM (ZPrif)

397 We are Missouri synod. Good pastor. Good message, 0 libtard crap. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 11:04 PM (XIxXP) That's what I'm leaning toward, OSP. I just have to break a bad habit and start getting my behind out of bed on Sunday mornings to visit the local LCMS church.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 07:07 PM (5J54Q)

398 Let he who has not sinned have the first chop at my neck. Also, I am a very rich man. And very generous. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:56 PM OK, fcuk it, I'll post the comment that I almost deleted for being too "over the top"... My naked neck lies available on a cinderblock if I need to be punished. All I ask is that you severe my head completely from my body on the first attempt. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:53 PM "Remember that scene in Red Dawn where Swazye couldn't pull the trigger on the traitor, so C.Thomas Howell steps up with the AK and seals the deal? Com'on; we were all thinkin' it..." I cannot find the exact video clip of that scene

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 07:07 PM (JMmQ9)

399 Flatbush, what's goin' on with the niece?

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:08 PM (8lmkt)

400 The James Rosen report tonight, about the US Ambassador in Europe who had sex with hookers and minor? He said the guy is still an Ambassdor. As in right now.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 10, 2013 07:08 PM (nH8jP)

401 still waiting

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 10, 2013 07:09 PM (ZPrif)

402 I will now be as interesting as you and others. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 11:01 PM (7zSvv) I used to think I was one of the dullest people here. Thanks for making me realize there's always someone worse.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 07:09 PM (5J54Q)

403 That's what I'm leaning toward, OSP. I just have to break a bad habit and start getting my behind out of bed on Sunday mornings to visit the local LCMS church. Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 11:07 PM (5J54Q) We always go Saturday evening to the 5 o"clock service. We got kids and it's just a pain in the butt sunday morning. And we go out to a nice dinner afterward.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 07:09 PM (XIxXP)

404 Thanks for making me realize there's always someone worse. Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero Why is everyone looking at me?

Posted by: Aquaman at June 10, 2013 07:10 PM (QupBk)

405 As far as the AoSHQ jam session band goes, I can keep a beat and I own a harmonica. Just sayin'.

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 07:10 PM (JMmQ9)

406 He said the guy is still an Ambassdor. As in right now.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 10, 2013 11:08 PM (nH8jP)

well, yeah, it's all good . . . do we know what country he's amboing in, cause I have not seen that, been busy doing my fucking worky bullshit.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:10 PM (8lmkt)

407 General analysis of the situation: If you are a classic liberty man, you might want to be prepared to go into exile. In your own native land. What will be important is to keep the ideals alive, so that they might live again one day in full flowering. Two or three generations hence.

Posted by: Mr. Even More Pleasant at June 10, 2013 07:10 PM (fBJt1)

408

How can a republic work if people have no idea what the candidates' actual policy positions are?

Posted by: boone at June 10, 2013 07:10 PM (tIyK2)

409 We are living in the last days this twisted thing that was once our dear Republic.

Posted by: I am not Ruprecht at June 10, 2013 07:11 PM (KG1LR)

410 I can blow a conch. Wait ... Why are you laughing?!?

Posted by: Aquaman at June 10, 2013 07:11 PM (QupBk)

411 Captain whitehead. Good point. I can't add anything to that but troll.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 07:11 PM (7zSvv)

412 If this is true, Snowden's options for relocation are opening up: http://tinyurl.com/k5a63tn "01:12 GMT: Russian authorities have promised to join the ranks of those willing to consider giving Snowden political asylum, if he files a formal request Â– according to the Russian business paper Â‘KommersantÂ’ citing a Kremlin spokesman on Tuesday. Â“If we receive such a request, we will consider it,Â” Dmitry Peskov was quoted." It might hinge on the beauty of the women that the respective Russian or Chi-Com governments can offer him,

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 07:11 PM (UR5vq)

413 still waiting

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 10, 2013 11:09 PM (ZPrif)

dang, that baby must have heard the plan and decided to wait until he could just walk on out. will keep her and the bebo on the prayer list.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:11 PM (8lmkt)

414 I cannot find the exact video clip of that scene Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 11:07 PM (JMmQ9) http://tinyurl.com/lx7lhjb 2 minute mark.

Posted by: RWC at June 10, 2013 07:12 PM (Wl/Ht)

415 365 Don't they realize how much they're degrading themselves? Sacrificing their own honesty and integrity in the service of a corrupt idiot child who views them with open contempt? Or are their souls so shriveled that they secretly enjoy the feeling of power, knowing that "their side" is the one that can lie, and rig elections, and threaten, and bully without consequences? ===== The latter, I think. Because they think the right things, they have the privilege to do the wrong ones; the sophisticated nuances of relativism squelch any remaining niggling morality qualms very nicely. And servicing a corrupt idiot child means they don't even have to scrape up the initiative to strike the first blows, they just have to surge along happily. Proxy despots and co-dependent enablers, all of 'em.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at June 10, 2013 07:12 PM (ESbvS)

416 we picked up 4.5 inches in 24 hours 10 days ago. I was only able to get into the garden yesterday and it rained another 1.5 inches overnight.

Posted by: Cicero Kid, now a Hoosier at June 10, 2013 07:12 PM (jz0+s)

417 Val-U-Rite replenishment run Back in five

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 07:12 PM (JMmQ9)

418 How bad is Obama? He has people fleeing America for the relative freedom and safety of China. Let that sink in.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 10, 2013 07:13 PM (1NbZy)

419 Don't forget Brian Terry, Jaime Zapata, and Ron Brown.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:13 PM (AKcpz)

420 Fuck yeah, I have a small stash of les pauls. Even though I'm mostly a V player, I have to give the Les Paul its proper due. They crank.

Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 11:03 PM

I'm a big fan of the LP junior, myself. They fucking crunch.

Posted by: otho at June 10, 2013 07:13 PM (9gNQd)

421 It might hinge on the beauty of the women that the respective Russian or Chi-Com governments can offer him, . Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 11:11 PM (UR5vq) It'll be bait and switch. Two weeks later he'll be tied to a chair injected full of the latest truth telling chemical cocktails.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 07:13 PM (XIxXP)

422
Hi everybody.

Posted by: NSA at June 10, 2013 07:13 PM (g5YAm)

423

Posted by: Mr. Even More Pleasant at June 10, 2013 11:10 PM (fBJt1)

What is needed is for someone with BIG bucks, to create a Cell phone company.... email vendor... and cloud...

Where everything is encrypted and its Advertised as a Private Network...

Which raises it to the bar of Protected Data... ie you would have a reasonable expectation of Privacy (which is the legal bar apparently).

It would have to be a pay network.... but... the technology is already there...

Key is it can't have ANY Government Contracts... because that is the way the Gov blackmails business into playing their game.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 07:13 PM (lZBBB)

424 386
Mmmm, Gibson Les Pauls. I bet we could put a pretty good band together
from the morons. Lottsa players here from comments we've seen.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 10, 2013 10:44 PM

Fuck yeah, I have a small stash of les pauls. Even though I'm mostly a V player, I have to give the Les Paul its proper due. They crank.

Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 11:03 PM (FMbng)

Mine's a custom shop SG I bought at Gruhn's in 1993 while in high school. I can run it some.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 07:13 PM (un8zR)

425 I will now be as interesting as you and others.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 11:01 PM (7zSvv)

Feel free to start any time.

Posted by: mugiwara at June 10, 2013 07:13 PM (hpYnL)

426 I'm a big fan of the LP junior, myself. They fucking crunch.

Posted by: otho at June 10, 2013 11:13 PM (9gNQd)

All hail the plank!!

Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 07:14 PM (FMbng)

427 I threw that m---f---- troll right ON THE GROUND. then I kicked that m--- f----- troll right IN THE FACE. get yo sloppy logic out here TROLL.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 07:14 PM (7zSvv)

428 this scene is not unlike Jesus and Pilates with the mob rooting for death.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:35 PM (7zSvv)

Well, please don't get all exercised about it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 07:14 PM (fNpC1)

429 335 My naked neck lies available on a cinderblock if I need to be punished. All I ask is that you severe my head completely from my body on the first attempt. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:53 PM (7zSvv) Better yet, the horde will send Peaches your way.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 07:14 PM (HVff2)

430 Time to call it a night, folks. Thanks for putting up with me. And quit picking on Aquaman, OK?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, Low Level Superhero at June 10, 2013 07:14 PM (5J54Q)

431 Hi everybody.

Posted by: NSA at June 10, 2013 11:13 PM (g5YAm)

Hey, fuck you, come get me, I'm ready!!!

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:14 PM (8lmkt)

432 Love my TV Yellow, 58 Special.

Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 07:14 PM (Jzn7Z)

433 Damn bipolar Royals have now won what? Six in a row? Beat the Tigers, too, not the AAA teams they've played the past couple of series (sorry, Twins/Astros fans . . .)

Bedtime for me.

(On the way out, buys a round for the ONT morons. Oh, darn, I seem to be one short of covering everybody here. Wonder who's not getting any tonight?)

Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 07:14 PM (7vimm)

434 Admiral Thrawn of course Putin would offer. As a former KGB officer Snowden is a wonderful political black eye to give America. Payback and world opinion shifted in one move.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:14 PM (AKcpz)

435

383 Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, are unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 10:59 PM (UR5vq)

THANK YOU!!!! That keeps getting lost somehow.

I think someone mentioned that on Twitter with Hillary as the hashtag. I would love to see more conservatives give her hell on Twitter. I am interested to see what David Burge might tweet.

Did Hillary also get caught with the hookers? Just curious.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 07:14 PM (dXPup)

436 I had dinner tonight with a friend, a woman who is sweet, well-liked, and willing to help anyone anytime. She's also a great example of a LIV (though one who voted for Romney) and a good example of why the country is in the position it's in.

She was somewhat aware of the NSA story but didn't really know the details nor grasp its implications. I was expecting the response she gave when I told her the gov't has collected all email and call info for the past several years: "I don't have anything to hide, no big deal." So I spent a bit of time painting the picture of what would happen if she were ever to speak out about anything, or if even if she were thrust in the public eye unwillingly (easy to personalize it for her, since she used to have a prescription rx addiction AND has recently been cleared to return to work as a nurse after losing her license for 3 years).

This friend considers herself a news junkie (watches the Today show on NBC; does not read) but to be very frank, she is not a very smart person. This isn't really her fault; some of us are born smarter than others. It's made me think, it's easy to denigrate "stupid people" but the fact is, many of them can't help it. Like I said above, she has many good qualities but she utterly lacks the capacity to understand the implications of gov't actions and to reason things out, to look at issues from different angles. It just isn't in her wheelhouse, does not come naturally to her at all. At least in this case though, she's teachable to the extent that when I explain things to her, she understands and usually agrees; she's persuadable. The statists take advantage of this characteristic though, and they have a much easier job to do, they just have to come up with a phrase that sounds good to people who don't think too deeply or analytically.

I think people like this will have to see or experience the consequences in a concrete way before they will "get it." I don't mean an outbreak of civil war, but

Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2013 07:15 PM (eHc+1)

437 Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:13 PM (un8zR)

I love Gruhn's. Can't afford a damn thing in there, but I love walking in and admiring the wares.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 10, 2013 07:15 PM (U22Yw)

438 Hey, fuck you, come get me, I'm ready!!!

Guberment sucks

Posted by: ranP at June 10, 2013 07:16 PM (z2Iiz)

439 It might hinge on the beauty of the women that the respective Russian or Chi-Com governments can offer him, .

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 11:11 PM (UR5vq)

Hong Kong does have an entire district, named for a famous WW2 Female Hooker and Spy...

But I'd choose Russian women in a heartbeat... at least in the looks department... because they ARE pretty high maintenance...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 07:16 PM (lZBBB)

440 Did Hillary also get caught with the hookers? Just curious.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 11:14 PM (dXPup)

To be completely fair, I think that's just because she was holding Billy Jeff's wallet.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:16 PM (8lmkt)

441 They have not said where yet.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 10, 2013 07:17 PM (nH8jP)

442 Sawyer- You may not not realize this, but if you have not sought out some kind of help, you should. If you graduated with an ME degree, with 3.1 gpa and born in 1977, you've made it this far, you can get farther. You seem to be comfortable making enemies as fast as you possibly can. With whatever your issues are you are probably used to this kind of treatment, which is the only explanation for why you stay here. Get help man. Seriously.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 07:17 PM (4Mv1T)

443 Will Anna Chapman be part of Snowden's Russian compensation package?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:17 PM (AKcpz)

444 in-house Biblical? Un-Biblical. Oh nevermind. We're 100 posts past that and everyone knows by now I don't proofread.

Posted by: teej at June 10, 2013 07:17 PM (erYRT)

445 >>Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:13 PM St.P! I thought you had forsaken us night walkers?

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 07:17 PM (jIaZt)

446 Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 11:02 PM (s/TCI)

Jake - you still here? I've got an unpurposed 15 lower that I'm thinking of building in 6.5 Grendel and would like your thoughts on the cartridge, best barrel, twist rate, etc. The landscape here doesn't really allow for 1000 yard shooting, but I have found a couple places where I can stretch out to 5-600 and from what I've read, it looks perfect for maximizing the potential of the AR-15 platform. Your thoughts?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 07:17 PM (un8zR)

447 Girls, we need to take care of yourselves, or your kids, so they can take care of you.

Posted by: ranP at June 10, 2013 07:18 PM (z2Iiz)

448 Gotta go, later kids.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 10, 2013 07:18 PM (XIxXP)

449 They have not said where yet. Posted by: Thunderb

Thanks, Thunderb, I didn't know if I had missed it. I have about fuckin' had it with our "betters," and this whole drinking oneself to death? Not as easy as it's made out to be, in my experience.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:19 PM (8lmkt)

450 Good nite folks checking out

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 07:19 PM (HVff2)

451 Have fun OSP

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:19 PM (AKcpz)

452 444 >>Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:13 PM

St.P! I thought you had forsaken us night walkers?

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 11:17 PM (jIaZt)

I am back amongst the chosen, having been moved to a better job where you sleep at night and work during the day. The balance has been restored to my force, since I can drink after 6:00 and then go to bed. I'm back!

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 07:20 PM (un8zR)

453 I can work with the m-- f--- trolls in Congress if I am elected president. However, I will throw their amnesty legislation ON THE GROUND because I'm anti-amnesty warrior. BOOM. this is for real, get yo troll ass up out of my face. You think Ann Coutler supports some Rubio pussy on immigration. LOL you don't know me at all FOOL TROLL. get down it on son. I am Mitt Romney and I approve this message.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 07:20 PM (7zSvv)

454 So Hillary's story that she was told by NASA that they 'don't take girls' was pretty much as full of shit as anything else she's ever said: http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2310/1

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 10, 2013 07:20 PM (c22HO)

455 'night to you all checking out-

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 07:20 PM (4Mv1T)

456 Great. Ray's here to prove that things could be worse.

Posted by: toby928© at June 10, 2013 07:20 PM (QupBk)

457 #422

Good luck getting past the multiple levels of regulatory agencies that are free to screw with you before you've sold a single account.

Posted by: epobirs at June 10, 2013 07:20 PM (kcfmt)

458 Oh, Anna Puma, I am still (and probably forever) in your debt for posting that excellent link yesterday about how much everyone paid for the ambo-ships. Just wow.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:20 PM (8lmkt)

459 Is brilliant Clemson University scholar-cum-dumbass Tom Sawyer gone yet?

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 10, 2013 07:20 PM (dh83Q)

460 Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 11:17 PM (4Mv1T) Amen. Honestly, there is an imbalance there.

Posted by: RWC at June 10, 2013 07:21 PM (Wl/Ht)

461 Not one, TS. Not one. Ponder that.

Posted by: toby928© at June 10, 2013 07:21 PM (QupBk)

462 Tobacco Road speaks with wisdom and charity.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 10, 2013 07:21 PM (ZPrif)

463 All hail the plank!!

Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 11:14 PM

Indeed. A junior through a 50 watt mesa boogie was almost enough to convert me from telecasters. Almost. But, damn that shit rocked.

Posted by: otho at June 10, 2013 07:21 PM (9gNQd)

464

"To be completely fair, I think that's just because she was holding Billy Jeff's wallet."

Bill with hookers? Better them than her Hairdo Hillary probably thinks.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 07:21 PM (dXPup)

465 Been off the ONT for a while. I see we've still got the batshit crazies posting here. Seems like one of 'em is particularly butthurt tonight.

Posted by: Theresa (D) at June 10, 2013 07:22 PM (HJ/rT)

466 If we could TS to debate Raykon, that would be epic.

Posted by: eman at June 10, 2013 07:22 PM (cQ4xo)

467 >>I'm back! Outstanding news! My shiny new job doesn't let me post at all, but I've got a few weeks of home study stuff, so I'll be around a bit. After July 4 though,I'll probably return to full time lurker status.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 07:22 PM (jIaZt)

468 I think people like this will have to see or experience the consequences in a concrete way before they will "get it." I don't mean an outbreak of civil war, but Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2013 11:15 PM (eHc+1) The Germans are generally considered smart, but look what they got stampeded into in the 1930s.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 07:23 PM (bb5+k)

469 If we could TS to debate Raykon, that would be epic. Why am I seeing monkeys with a greased football?

Posted by: toby928© at June 10, 2013 07:23 PM (QupBk)

470 Peaches you are welcome. It was eye opening. Being ambassador is a great paying gig with a nice compensation package. And with modern communications, are they really needed? But like dinosaurs of an earlier era they lumber on.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:23 PM (AKcpz)

471 Trolls are worse lately. More frequent. Less stable.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 10, 2013 07:23 PM (nH8jP)

472 Hey guys.
Did you hear about troll? Troll got banned. LOL Troll sucked. Stupid troll had it coming. why? because he trolled like a troll.
What is trolling you say? Trolling is when you trollreal hard because all you are is a stupid troll who trolls people just to troll them.
That's when I saw a little cleavage to the moderator and offer him a good time if he takes care of this stupid troll.
I hope you get cancer and you die you stupid troll.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 11:05 PM (7zSvv)

Okay enough with the psycho-drama. Either act like a normal commenter, be silent, or be banned.

Posted by: Mætenloch at June 10, 2013 07:24 PM (pAlYe)

473 436 Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:13 PM (un8zR)

I love Gruhn's. Can't afford a damn thing in there, but I love walking in and admiring the wares.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 10, 2013 11:15 PM (U22Yw)

Greatest gift a 16 y/o who *is in no way* getting a car can get - a 1993 custom shop SG, body is Korina / Walnut / Korina, with the neck being Koring with a rosewood fretboard. I will keep it until I can't play it any longer, then gift it to a kid with talent. Traded some junk and ~$500 of my / my parent's cash and walked out with a serious piece. They had decided I was too good for the POS I was playing at the time. and I convinced them to go top shelf. Awesome.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 07:24 PM (un8zR)

474 Okay Moron Gang.. shall we have a vote to see who gets booted of Ace's Island?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:25 PM (AKcpz)

475 Damnitall. I'm out of tobacco, and too lazy to go out for more. Really thinking about stealing one of Cougar's cigs.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 07:25 PM (jIaZt)

476 But I'd choose Russian women in a heartbeat... at least in the looks department... because they ARE pretty high maintenance... Posted by: Romeo13 at June 10, 2013 11:16 PM (lZBBB) I have to admit, there are some very beautiful Russian women. A friend of mine married one, and gave me a couple of catalogs of marriage minded Russian women. I was often astonished at how beautiful some of them were. My theory is this. Russia lost so many men (~20 million) during WWII, that the survivors had the pick of the litter. Naturally they picked the most beautiful girls, and their children inherited those characteristics. Just a theory.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 07:26 PM (bb5+k)

477
   Still my country.   Not EVER going to let up to right her while there is breath in me.

    Given my age, and the magnitude of the problem,it isn't likely I'll live to see the problem corrected.

   But I WILL leave my small mark.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 10, 2013 07:26 PM (SAMxH)

478 Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 11:25 PM (jIaZt) What are ya? Skeered?

Posted by: RWC at June 10, 2013 07:26 PM (Wl/Ht)

479 My naked neck lies available on a cinderblock if I need to be punished. All I ask is that you severe my head completely from my body on the first attempt.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:53 PM (7zSvv)

Would you mind finding a tree stump instead? Don't want to nick the axe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 07:26 PM (fNpC1)

480 It isn't. I've watched Federal Agents scroll through all of the active phone numbers in NYC and NJ and pick any one they wanted to tap into. It's some scary shit. Posted by: garrett at June 10, 2013 10:26 PM (Jzn7Z) ~ Sorry - had to run to the liquor store. What are the chances that the same people that put a tapping system in place wouldn't add the management controls to prevent themselves from being tapped at the whim of every IT Tech? Likewise - I'd think that is pretty likely that the President has some pretty high security communication security and that the Secret Service would be concerned if any cleared IT Tech working at the NSA could dial into his com system with a few button pushes. Once again I call bullshit.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 07:27 PM (SzAZ7)

481 Okay Moron Gang.. shall we have a vote to see who gets booted of Ace's Island?

I say big brother should decide.

Posted by: ranP at June 10, 2013 07:27 PM (z2Iiz)

482 Bill with hookers? Better them than her Hairdo Hillary probably thinks.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 11:21 PM (dXPup)

Hillary don't do dick . . .

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:27 PM (8lmkt)

483 460 All hail the plank!!

Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 11:14 PM

Indeed. A junior through a 50 watt mesa boogie was almost enough to convert me from telecasters. Almost. But, damn that shit rocked.

Posted by: otho at June 10, 2013 11:21 PM (9gNQd)

I run the SG through a Mesa DC-5 50W. Clean as a whistle, but it's ALIVE.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 07:27 PM (un8zR)

484 Indeed. A junior through a 50 watt mesa boogie was almost enough to convert me from telecasters. Almost. But, damn that shit rocked. Indeed in the right hands either one rocks. Neil Young and his LP, Roy Buchanan with his Tellie, Rory Gallagher with his Strat

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 07:28 PM (HVff2)

485 I see we've still got the batshit crazies posting here.

Yeah, I should have gone to bed at least an hour ago.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at June 10, 2013 07:28 PM (hO8IJ)

486 >>What are ya? Skeered? Ah. Peer pressure. I was warned about this. Just didn't picture it happening exactly this way.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 07:28 PM (jIaZt)

487 Didn't your mama tell you to ignore the strange muttering man with the wet spot in the front of his pants who you met shuffling down the street that one day? Posted by: filbert. Just filbert. at June 10, 2013 11:03 PM (7vimm) I know but I have a temper sometimes Hi Amy at the NSA, how is that wedding lanning going?

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 07:29 PM (s/TCI)

488 Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:24 PM (un8zR)

Sweet deal! I always walk out of there swearing I'm going to learn mandolin, or fiddle, or banjo. That feeling usually lasts for a day or so, lol.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 10, 2013 07:29 PM (U22Yw)

489

Posted by: ranP at June 10, 2013 07:29 PM (z2Iiz)

490 I can't believe the Pats didn't sign Snowdon, as long as they were at it today. Because, and I honestly don't give rat's ass about whether he committed treason or endangered anyone, we, I, the American people, needed to know this. So fuckin' irritating, the whole thing.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:29 PM (8lmkt)

491 Damn Peaches, "Hillary don't do dick . . ." Another liquid spew here in The Aubs

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 07:30 PM (HVff2)

492 How did the Zimmerman jury picking go?

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2013 07:30 PM (CMlD4)

493 Did you hear that? A barely perceptible hum from behind the curtain... And what is that smell? Smells like....lightning...

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 07:30 PM (JMmQ9)

494 If Snowden had the capability to tap any phone from his computer why didn't he tap some phones of US political leaders release innocuous but accurate transcripts and expose the system that way? He's spouting bullshit x 2.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 07:30 PM (SzAZ7)

495 >>>I say big brother should decide who is not worthy to speak or comment. Posted by: ranP You must be new around here. And voted for O.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 07:30 PM (4Mv1T)

496 Mitt's comment reminded me of lace wigs for a moment there.

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2013 07:31 PM (nqBYe)

497 But I WILL leave my small mark. Posted by: irongrampa at June 10, 2013 11:26 PM (SAMxH) hi IG keep up the good fight

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 07:31 PM (s/TCI)

498 Speaking of guitars and such, If anyone's interested I'm probably going to be selling my Fender Super Twin Reverb amp and Fender Bullet Deluxe. Drums will probably go too. Includes some old Ludwig stuff and old Zildjian cymbals. The cymbals? Yeah, they're the good ones. Feel free to ask next you "see" me. Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at June 10, 2013 07:31 PM (GX2fm)

499 You must be new around here. And voted for O.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 11:30 PM (4Mv1T)

Take 'im down, TR. I'll go fire up the tractor.

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:32 PM (8lmkt)

500 TR, the whiff of ozone was that dud getting zapped.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:32 PM (AKcpz)

501

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking beer at June 10, 2013 07:32 PM (hO8IJ)

502 Nah, lace wigs and machine parts were funny.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:33 PM (AKcpz)

503 Someone need to make a graphic of the total data the NSA has. There has been pictures of Facebook vs. Youtube vs twitter and the like. So show the scale they would be the size of a pixel and NAS data would not fully fit on the screen.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at June 10, 2013 07:33 PM (CdeLs)

504 Heather is speechless!
pullz her pigtail

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2013 07:33 PM (nqBYe)

505 The Germans are generally considered smart, but look what they got stampeded into in the 1930s.

--

For years, I always wondered how the German people could be so taken in by such an evil man. I don't wonder any more, at all. A couple of years ago, I read a link (probably posted here) to an article written after the WW2 years by a woman (iirc) who'd live through them. She said she'd look around a room and she could tell which people would have been collaborators and which would not, by their personality characteristics. That article made me think a lot, and I realized several people I know are "go along to get along" types (including, depressingly, one of my sisters who is definitely conservative though not politically minded).

Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2013 07:33 PM (eHc+1)

506 What no sugah for me?

Posted by: Cat Filters & Butt Welds at June 10, 2013 07:35 PM (KG1LR)

507 Posted by: RWC at June 10, 2013 11:12 PM Tank Ewe Berry Mulch.

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 07:35 PM (JMmQ9)

508 #453

My reply to her would be that in a field made up of many competing companies rather than a single big government program, the opportunities are likely to be open to a far more diverse range of applicants based solely on their abilities.

Of course, the idea that a PoliSci and Law major would be able to master the practical subjects required of astronauts then, suggest a much bigger obstacle than her genitalia.

Posted by: epobirs at June 10, 2013 07:35 PM (kcfmt)

509 There's a beautiful/crazy group of wimmens: Persian, Colombian, Russian

Then there's a beautiful/not crazy group: Phillapina, Icelandic, Argentina

Go with the latter, if your using your real name.

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2013 07:35 PM (CMlD4)

510 Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 11:29 PM (s/TCI)

Jake - posted a question to you in #.444Marlin.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 07:36 PM (un8zR)

511 I've been banned for less that you

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 10:59 PM (s/TCI)

Now THAT'S funny!!!

How many here have been banned and "resurrected" and would prefer Tom Sawyer gone?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 07:36 PM (T1005)

512 Speaking of evil Germans. The diary of Adolph's confidant Rosenberg has apparently been found. Vanished soon after the Nuremberg Trials and now it seems one of the US people involved had stolen it. Only to have his secretary steal it where it was found in the possession of a man the secretary went to work for.
http://tinyurl.com/k5aap5l

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:36 PM (AKcpz)

513 469 Maet,

Nicely done....

was a "joy" reading that guy while I was on the road the last three days...

sorta like having piles

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 07:36 PM (LRFds)

514 Mea Culpa, for quoting a troll. Was it a known entity? It was new to me.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 07:36 PM (4Mv1T)

515 anna, The troll comment was weird, but i did find this cute:...

I will lay my head down on a rock and the moderator has my permission to chop my head right off. Please make it a clean break though.
These people need a head. I shall give them a head.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:31 PM (7zSvv

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2013 07:36 PM (nqBYe)

516 For years, I always wondered how the German people could be so taken in by such an evil man. I don't wonder any more, at all. A couple of years ago, I read a link (probably posted here) to an article written after the WW2 years by a woman (iirc) who'd live through them. She said she'd look around a room and she could tell which people would have been collaborators and which would not, by their personality characteristics. That article made me think a lot, and I realized several people I know are "go along to get along" types (including, depressingly, one of my sisters who is definitely conservative though not politically minded). Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2013 11:33 PM (eHc+1) It has long been apparent to me that the Nazis are the closest analogy to what we have been seeing. Collaboration between large companies and governmental authority is pretty much a tell tale of Fascism stirring. The story above about QWest is a very good example of evil at work. That guy was Emmanuel Goldstein for a little while.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 07:37 PM (bb5+k)

517 TS should go. He's been a PIA today, most of the day.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 07:37 PM (HVff2)

518 Time for the old folk. More rain for tomorrow but my lady is back home so who cares.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 10, 2013 07:38 PM (SAMxH)

519

478 Hillary don't do dick . . .

Just Weiner's wife.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 07:38 PM (dXPup)

520 irongrampa , be well , have a nice rest.

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2013 07:39 PM (nqBYe)

521 Speaking of guitars and such,
If anyone's interested I'm probably going to be selling my Fender Super Twin Reverb amp and Fender Bullet Deluxe.
Drums will probably go too. Includes some old Ludwig stuff and old Zildjian cymbals. The cymbals? Yeah, they're the good ones.
Feel free to ask next you "see" me.
Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at June 10, 2013 11:31 PM

Why??? That's some good shit. You upgrading?

Posted by: otho at June 10, 2013 07:39 PM (9gNQd)

522 The Germans are generally considered smart, but look what they got stampeded into in the 1930s. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 11:23 PM (bb5+k) ======= If we go the same way, our anthem will become "Doucheland, Doucheland, uber alles..."

Posted by: Sister Sestina at June 10, 2013 07:39 PM (ESbvS)

523 514 Mo ther Girl,

That would be Ms. Humming Wiener right?

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 07:39 PM (LRFds)

524 Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 10, 2013 11:38 PM (SAMxH)

Good night and God bless, darlin' xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 07:39 PM (8lmkt)

525 Good night IG. Your comment earlier was an encouragement. It was.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 07:39 PM (4Mv1T)

526 Has anyone found out the America of the Ambassador in Rosens report?

Posted by: Thunderb at June 10, 2013 07:39 PM (nH8jP)

527 Speaking of Weiner, did we ever find out who outed the dick?

giggles.

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2013 07:40 PM (nqBYe)

528 Have a good evening irongrampa.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:40 PM (AKcpz)

529 It's the frequency which is annoying. To me at least. It's when every 5th or 10th comment is a troll that it starts to really bug me. It does have an effect. Cause you know every time you refresh odds are you'll see another dropping. I'd rather see an occasional unhinged screed or two than 50 little troll turds. Guy had stamina, kept it up for days it seemed. Crazy has that effects some times. I'm not without sympathy for the bungled and the botched. It's not easy going through life with a head full of bad wiring. I assume most trolls are fairly consumed with self-loathing. They feel an odd compulsion to make strangers hate them, mirroring the self-hate they feel. Obviously it's not a healthy mind that seeks to be hated.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 10, 2013 07:40 PM (ZPrif)

530 Speaking of evil Germans. The diary of Adolph's confidant Rosenberg has apparently been found. Vanished soon after the Nuremberg Trials and now it seems one of the US people involved had stolen it. Only to have his secretary steal it where it was found in the possession of a man the secretary went to work for. http://tinyurl.com/k5aap5l Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 11:36 PM (AKcpz) I saw that. I wonder if there is anything exceptionally interesting in it.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 07:40 PM (bb5+k)

531 Jake - you still here? I've got an unpurposed 15 lower that I'm thinking of building in 6.5 Grendel and would like your thoughts on the cartridge, best barrel, twist rate, etc. The landscape here doesn't really allow for 1000 yard shooting, but I have found a couple places where I can stretch out to 5-600 and from what I've read, it looks perfect for maximizing the potential of the AR-15 platform. Your thoughts? Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:17 PM (un8zR) A few thoughts, the 6.5Grendel is not a very flat shooter unless you shoot really light bullets but it does hit harder and shoots farther than most .223 If you want a 6.5 make sure it will shoot the 144grain Lapua bullet, best Ballistic Coeficient avaible another choice is a 1/8 or 1/7 twist AR15 w/ 20 inch barrel to shoot 75 grain, 77 grain, 80 grain or 90 grain .223 bullets not many answers but what do you want to shoot? 55 grain boat tails will fo ok at 500-600 yards

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 07:41 PM (s/TCI)

532 Flatbush- Truer words....

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 07:41 PM (4Mv1T)

533 Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 11:36 PM (LRFds) Hey sven, good to see you still kicking. Give em hell!

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 07:41 PM (bb5+k)

534 517 The Germans are generally considered smart, but look what they got stampeded into in the 1930s. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 11:23 PM (bb5+k) Well the Germans and other EU members are revisiting their bigotry by picking on Jewish products. Doomed to repeat history? We aren't far behind I'm afraid.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 07:42 PM (HVff2)

535 411 If this is true, Snowden's options for relocation are opening up:

http://tinyurl.com/k5a63tn

"01:12 GMT: Russian authorities have promised to join the ranks of those willing to consider giving Snowden political asylum, if he files a formal request Â– according to the Russian business paper Â‘KommersantÂ’ citing a Kremlin spokesman on Tuesday. Â“If we receive such a request, we will consider it,Â” Dmitry Peskov was quoted."

It might hinge on the beauty of the women that the respective Russian or Chi-Com governments can offer him, .

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 11:11 PM (UR5vq)

Problem is, he Knows Too Much. How many places would love to "give him asylum" at the price of spilling his guts to their security peeps? And how many would tell him the price before he signed the paper?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 07:42 PM (T1005)

536 230 this scene is not unlike Jesus and Pilates with the mob rooting for death. Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 10:35 PM (7zSvv) Is that what it is? Here's a revolver...go suck on it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 10, 2013 07:42 PM (V1ZIU)

537 526 Jake in ID,

or look inbto .300 blackout and keep the lower able to just change uppers...

.300 has M1-carbine characteristics

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 07:42 PM (LRFds)

538 Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2013 11:33 PM (eHc+1)

The 'Who Would Go Nazi' article was on an ONT a few years ago.

http://minx.cc/?post=304243

Posted by: Mætenloch at June 10, 2013 07:43 PM (pAlYe)

539

Three felonies a day? I think every moron here commits at least two just posting.

Get used to the term "wash-backed"...some of you will never graduate reeducation camp!

Posted by: Icedog at June 10, 2013 07:43 PM (3qKP/)

540 Hey Cthulhu, TCM almost redeemed itself after Kapo. A movie called The Search filmed in bombed out Germany in 1948 starring Montgomery Clift. About the child survivors of WWII including ones from the concentration camps. Focuses on an almost feral boy who can't speak who escapes from an UNRRA ambulance with other kids because they think they are being gassed since the ambulance exhaust started to leak in. So a GI manages to adopt him and starts to help him. Meanwhile the boy's mother is going from UNRRA camp to another searching for him, he is all she has left since her husband and daughter were murdered in another camp. The ending was happy as mother and child were reunited.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:43 PM (AKcpz)

541 Jesus saves.

Posted by: raaapfj at June 10, 2013 07:43 PM (z2Iiz)

542

Didn't Weiner claim to like it both ways? Maybe he was speaking of doing Hillary as well as his wife.....But frankly I don't know why I even care.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 07:43 PM (dXPup)

543 How many here have been banned and "resurrected" and would prefer Tom Sawyer gone? Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 11:36 PM I've never been banned (before tonight, anyways, 'cause MÃ¦t has a wicked sense of humor). I have been sent to The BarrelÂ™ so often that I have a commemorative plaque down there.

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2013 07:44 PM (JMmQ9)

544 Would you mind finding a tree stump instead? Don't want to nick the axe.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----------------

I was thinking the same thing. I have a couple..., but a double bitted piece that is razor f'ing sharp seems the right one. Filed, then worked with two stones. I suppose that I could strop it, but hey..., it's just an axe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 07:44 PM (aDwsi)

545 528 diogenes lamp,

Thanks I popped in briefly last night while I slept in the hotel...

gonna be back on the road in about 3 days...

the tires they sing to me now

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 07:44 PM (LRFds)

546 Please trollbust all of TS comment to wetback, thanks

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2013 07:44 PM (CMlD4)

547 Goodnite, good people. Stay safe. Posted by: irongrampa at June 10, 2013 11:38 PM (SAMxH) Good night to you too. Looks like I came in to late to have much of a conversation with you.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 07:44 PM (bb5+k)

548 What the hell is a Wookie doing with a light saber? There are no Wookie Jedis.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at June 10, 2013 07:44 PM (5fSr7)

549

OSP, didn't realize you were a Lutheran too. Of course, I was raised ELCA, which is a mortal sin to some LCMS types.

Posted by: Conserative Crank at June 10, 2013 07:45 PM (bNYYG)

550 Jake - posted a question to you in #.444Marlin. Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:36 PM (un8zR) struggling to catch up with kids who seem not to think they got to sleep... brb

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 07:45 PM (s/TCI)

551 Maetenloch, that and the butter smuggler article are classics

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2013 07:46 PM (CMlD4)

552 Sven: Just for you, Bob Segar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3khH9ih2XJg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 07:46 PM (aDwsi)

553 449 444
>>Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:13 PM

St.P! I thought you had forsaken us night walkers?

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 10, 2013 11:17 PM (jIaZt)

I am back amongst the chosen, having been moved to a better job where you sleep at night and work during the day. The balance has been restored to my force, since I can drink after 6:00 and then go to bed. I'm back!

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:20 PM (un8zR)

Congrats!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 07:46 PM (T1005)

554 Two questions: http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/i-dont-care-ive.html Who is this? How do we get her into stompy boots?

Posted by: Some Moron at June 10, 2013 07:46 PM (zPVBH)

555 So new XBox will be $500 and new PS4 will be $400. Interesting. Prices just announced today at E3.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 10, 2013 07:46 PM (ZPrif)

556 not many answers but what do you want to shoot?
55 grain boat tails will fo ok at 500-600 yards

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 11:41 PM (s/TCI)

I'd like to end up with super-short action rifle that feeds rounds with a COAL < maximum so rounds can be fed via magazine that: 1 - have the potential to fire and land target loads at 800yds and beyond, and 2 - when loaded with different bullets more appropriate for hunting, will have no problem taking whitetails at normal local distances cleanly - that's about 200 yards maximum here. Hence why I think the Grendel is a neat idea. Regarding ammo, I'll be rolling my own for this project.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 07:46 PM (un8zR)

557

"How many here have been banned and "resurrected" and would prefer Tom Sawyer gone?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 11:36 PM"

I've been officially "warned"...by Vic no less. Does that count?

Posted by: Icedog at June 10, 2013 07:46 PM (ZM9OS)

558 Problem is, he Knows Too Much. How many places would love to "give him asylum" at the price of spilling his guts to their security peeps? And how many would tell him the price before he signed the paper?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 11:42 PM (T1005)

True these countries are not concerned with individuals rights . so this isn't out of the goodness of their hearts, He will Have to give them something. I wish we actually had had a safe place here he could have spilled his guts.

but now, if his intentions WERE honorable we will never know.

it will be used as fodder against America.

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2013 07:46 PM (nqBYe)

559 Diogenes Lamp, probably further prove how sick, twisted, and evil they were. Handwritten pages. Almost 500 of them. Talking of things like when Hess defected. Might have a few bombshells.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 07:48 PM (AKcpz)

560 543 OSP, didn't realize you were a Lutheran too. Of course, I was raised ELCA, which is a mortal sin to some LCMS types. Posted by: Conserative Crank at June 10, 2013 11:45 PM (bNYYG) Wis Synod raised now ELS pretty conservative. I hear ELCA is going further and further to the left. And our church has a kick butt pot luck once a month

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 07:48 PM (HVff2)

561 Get used to the term "wash-backed"...some of you will never graduate reeducation camp! Posted by: Icedog at June 10, 2013 11:43 PM I'm not going to "camp" Molon Labe

Posted by: AltonJackson is not going to "camp" at June 10, 2013 07:48 PM (JMmQ9)

562 Congrats!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 11:46 PM (T1005)

My thanks, o dread one. May your plans to corrupt and defile a more tax-advantageous locale proceed as you desire.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 07:48 PM (un8zR)

563 Speaking of evil Germans. The diary of Adolph's confidant Rosenberg has apparently been found. Vanished soon after the Nuremberg Trials and now it seems one of the US people involved had stolen it. Only to have his secretary steal it where it was found in the possession of a man the secretary went to work for.
http://tinyurl.com/k5aap5l

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 11:36 PM (AKcpz)
--
Thanks, will have to read that.

-------

"01:12 GMT: Russian authorities have promised to join the ranks of
those willing to consider giving Snowden political asylum, if he files a
formal request
--
The world is has gone assbackwards and upside down.

And on that note, time for bed. Maybe I'll wake up tomorrow and it will all be a bad dream! One can never give up hope.

Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2013 07:48 PM (eHc+1)

564 546 Mike Hammer,

Heh it was an interesting weekend...

I got to play auto mechanic on the p[erimeter of a TS this week....

"yay"

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 07:49 PM (LRFds)

565

"What the hell is a Wookie doing with a light saber? There are no Wookie Jedis."

Jedi groupies. All about the bitches!

Posted by: Chewbaca at June 10, 2013 07:49 PM (3qKP/)

566 1/7 twist .223 barrel - hmmm

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2013 07:49 PM (CMlD4)

567 Well the Germans and other EU members are revisiting their bigotry by picking on Jewish products. Doomed to repeat history? We aren't far behind I'm afraid. Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 11:42 PM (HVff2) How does that saying go? "Fascism is always falling in America, but landing in Europe. " What the fuck is the matter with those people?

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 07:49 PM (bb5+k)

568 or look inbto .300 blackout and keep the lower able to just change uppers... .300 has M1-carbine characteristics Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 11:42 PM (LRFds) .300 Blackout subsonic is a 200 yard rifle, similar balllistics/ characterists as a .22 Long Rifle but with more energy on target.

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 07:50 PM (s/TCI)

569 if his intentions WERE honorable we will never know. it will be used as fodder against America. Posted by: willow at June 10, 2013 11:46 PM (nqBYe) ~ If his intentions were honorable he wouldn't have buggered off to China.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 07:50 PM (SzAZ7)

570 Finally got to the ONT. Read the post, and the first 10 comments. Figured that was enough, 'cause my momma allus said, nothing good happens after the first 10 comments. Or maybe she said after Midnight. I wasn't listening. Good evening, and I hope They haven't found any of you yet. At least, found you unready....

Posted by: mindful webworker was here at June 10, 2013 07:51 PM (U13jb)

571 560 Jean,

Heh I plan to make a NoDak Spud "Hollywood" repro this year or next maybe....

http://www.nodakspud.com/AR%20Lowers.htm

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 07:51 PM (LRFds)

572 24+ hrs and China still hasn't turned him over. Every day that he manages to stay hidden in China increases the odds that Chicoms were involved. If China was not involved then they should be racing to find the guy and hand him over.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 10, 2013 07:52 PM (ZPrif)

573 Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2013 11:33 PM (eHc+1)

The 'Who Would Go Nazi' article was on an ONT a few years ago.

http://minx.cc/?post=304243

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Thank you Maet, that's the one and I'll re-read it. Found it fascinating as well as disturbing. You really do find an interesting and diverse array to post on the ONT. Don't know how you do it, but well done sir.

Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2013 07:52 PM (eHc+1)

574 So new XBox will be $500 and new PS4 will be $400.
Interesting. Prices just announced today at E3. Posted by: Flatbush Joe

I predict a $100 price cut in the new XBox around the six month mark.

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2013 07:52 PM (CMlD4)

575 I knew lace wigs and Total Shit is no lace wigs.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 10, 2013 07:52 PM (9+vDU)

576 Not the book thread, I know, but find and read a copy of "They Thought They Were Free" by (I can't remember, dammit). The author was an American jew who, ten years after the end of the war, went to live in Germany for a year. This book was the result. He has a good eye, and the book is not that hard to push on friends who don't yet see the dangers upon us.

Posted by: Piercello at June 10, 2013 07:53 PM (E/6f0)

577 Weirdness. Gateway Pundit says they found his girlfriend and she has a ... pole dancing blog.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 10, 2013 07:53 PM (ZPrif)

578 562 Jake in ID,

I agree...poster has classic 5.56s IIRC the .300 BO is a good 150-225 yd rifle....

guy who uses it says it hits like a flat shooting .30 carbine...

I dunno...

my mind is mush tonight

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 07:53 PM (LRFds)

579 Meanwhile the boy's mother is going from UNRRA camp to another searching for him, he is all she has left since her husband and daughter were murdered in another camp. The ending was happy as mother and child were reunited. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 11:43 PM (AKcpz) Did you happen to see that Alford Hitchcock movie about the concentration camps? I think Ace covered it, but I'm not certain. It was chilling. It was suppressed because of the desire to see the Germans Rebuild quickly and become our allies. You just can't make this shit up.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 07:53 PM (bb5+k)

580 562 or look inbto .300 blackout and keep the lower able to just change uppers...

.300 has M1-carbine characteristics
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 11:42 PM (LRFds)

.300 Blackout subsonic is a 200 yard rifle, similar balllistics/ characterists as a .22 Long Rifle but with more energy on target.

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 11:50 PM (s/TCI)

The subs throw big pills, so seems useful in brush against piggies, or as a modern 30-30.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 07:53 PM (un8zR)

581 560 1/7 twist .223 barrel - hmmm
Posted by: Jean
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Geeze that seem high. Not into AR's, but why such a high rate if you're using 55gr. slugs? .222 at 1/14 drives tacks with ~50gr.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 07:54 PM (aDwsi)

582 If his intentions were honorable he wouldn't have buggered off to China.

Because everyone knows he'd get totally fair treatment from the DOJ, right?

By "fair", I mean he'd be found hanging from a beam in a vacant factory building somewhere, 80% eaten by rats

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 10, 2013 07:54 PM (/gHaE)

583

" 'cause my momma allus said, nothing good happens after the first 10 comments."

I think the ONT crew keeps it together fairly well for the first 100 comments are so, but you enter the Twilight Zone around comment 400.

...and all rules are off on weekend ONTs.

Posted by: Chewbaca at June 10, 2013 07:54 PM (ZM9OS)

584 Thanks I popped in briefly last night while I slept in the hotel... gonna be back on the road in about 3 days... the tires they sing to me now Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 11:44 PM (LRFds) Well I wish you luck. May the wind be at your back.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 07:55 PM (bb5+k)

585 Let me see if I've got this straight ...

To keep us safe, the government has to spy on each and every last American or the terrorists will get us

However, leaving the border wide open is perfectly safe

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2013 07:55 PM (mCvL4)

586 575 Mike Hammer,

My thoughts as well...

the rifle used for General LeMay had a 1/14 IIRC

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 07:55 PM (LRFds)

587 What the fuck is the matter with those people? DL Yes a good question. I think I read it on drudge or weasel zippers. Pretty sad. This world keeps getting crazier. And I feel like iron grandpa, I doubt if I see a correction but I will keep trying to leave a positive mark.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 07:55 PM (HVff2)

588 Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:46 PM (un8zR) I'd have to run the numners but 75grain Hornady and 77 grain sierra match kings are mag length ok and shot ok I've taken 55 grain FMJBT out to 900 yards so it depends sorry for the vauge answer

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 07:56 PM (s/TCI)

589 Okay enough with the psycho-drama. Either act like a normal commenter, be silent, or be banned.

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at June 10, 2013 11:24 PM (pAlYe)

Aww but maet if you do that you'll make DAve throw another one of his bitch fits at 3 am.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2013 07:56 PM (LI48c)

590

"By "fair", I mean he'd be found hanging from a beam in a vacant factory building somewhere, 80% eaten by rats"

Wait, wasn't there some high tech wiz kid who "committed suicide" last year? Time for another look at that case?

Posted by: Chewbaca at June 10, 2013 07:57 PM (3qKP/)

591 people, we gots like eight minutes.... some dickhead roped me into a meeting at 0730, and I have a 55 minute commute

Posted by: AltonJackson is not going to at June 10, 2013 07:57 PM (JMmQ9)

592 Drunk boat driver, Erin Brockovich, has a pretty hideous mug-shot.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 07:57 PM (dXPup)

593 Retro AR-15's recipe for the Hollywood

http://tinyurl.com/lvnnemq

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 07:58 PM (LRFds)

594 @#517 Sister Sestina at June 10, 2013 11:39 PM (ESbvS) LOL

Posted by: qixlqatl at June 10, 2013 07:59 PM (NdH/1)

595 585 people, we gots like eight minutes.... some dickhead roped me into a meeting at 0730, and I have a 55 minute commute Posted by: AltonJackson is not going to at June 10, 2013 11:57 PM (JMmQ9) Roped or doped?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 07:59 PM (HVff2)

596 http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/i-dont-care-ive.html That was worth tuning in for. Reminds me of Sunny. Good to see. Thanks, Some Moron

Posted by: mindful webworker wants to hear MOAR voices at June 10, 2013 07:59 PM (U13jb)

597 Geeze that seem high. Not into AR's, but why such a high rate if you're using 55gr. slugs? .222 at 1/14 drives tacks with ~50gr.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 11:54 PM (aDwsi)

Allows a competition shooter to run up to 77gr. SMKs through the mag, and even heavier single-loaded, IIRC. As you can imagine, the range of the weapon for distance shooting is greatly extended. Sadly for our military, the same features stabilize bullets to the point where they don't tumble on impact, unlike the original 1/11 and 1/12 55 gr variants.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 07:59 PM (un8zR)

598 542 What the hell is a Wookie doing with a light saber? There are no Wookie Jedis.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at June 10, 2013 11:44 PM (5fSr7)

*grwwowll* *Growwll* *BRRROWWL*

Posted by: Lowbacca at June 10, 2013 07:59 PM (LI48c)

599 In the "random personal achievements" department today, I managed to get my little CNC to etch a hollow square, a Greek spiral, and diagonals today through programming alone. I'm inordinately proud of myself.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 07:59 PM (T1005)

600

"So new XBox will be $500 and new PS4 will be $400.

Interesting. Prices just announced today at E3.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe"

I think many folks are going to be hesitant to drop $500 on a 1st gen new XBox. Too many people still remember the "red circle of death".

Posted by: Chewbaca at June 10, 2013 08:00 PM (ZolUS)

601 >>>Aww but maet if you do that you'll make DAve throw another one of his bitch fits at 3 am. Posted by: buzzion Last night, right? What a PITA. I woke feeling guilty as hell. And for what.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 08:00 PM (4Mv1T)

602 By "fair", I mean he'd be found hanging from a beam in a vacant factory building somewhere, 80% eaten by rats Posted by: Purp at June 10, 2013 11:54 PM (/gHaE) ~ Uh..yeah, about all those CIA secrets he claims to know that would put peoples lives in danger. How about not taking them China. Is it so hard not to think of a way to dissent and whistleblow that doesn't involve exposing classified data to all our enemies then leaving for a strategic rival who, frankly, is not well known for their support free speech?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 08:00 PM (SzAZ7)

603

Five years ago thieves broke into my house and stole my guitars. Left guns in broad view. Included an original red 61 SG and a blond on blonde 63 Strat. I consoled myself with a custom shop Les Paul but someday I will go in a bar and see my SG hanging on somebody. The show will be over.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 10, 2013 08:00 PM (XihDb)

604 Diogenes Lamp, probably further prove how sick, twisted, and evil they were. Handwritten pages. Almost 500 of them. Talking of things like when Hess defected. Might have a few bombshells. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 11:48 PM (AKcpz) The Nazis were a crack in the Earth where Hellfire escaped. Everything about them stinks of evil. It almost feels beyond natural somehow.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 08:00 PM (bb5+k)

605 591 ST Pat of TN,

yeah if you go to the one shot stop analysis by forensics you'll find the 55 gr .223/5/56 is as good a man stopper oin the right bore as the 64-68 gr bullets...

wound channel cavitation

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 08:01 PM (LRFds)

606 Bad Company on Leno tonight

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 08:01 PM (DPdf7)

607 Hey all! Sorry if I missed this in earlier conversation, but WTF is up with the embargo on the Santa Monica shootings? Five dead? This should be 24/7 non-stop gun control ammo (pardon the pun). Google results are days old, and don't reveal much. Hmmm. Is it what I'm thinking? Guess-the-party-type bullshit. Must have been the case that even Tingles couldn't manufacture a tie to the Tea Party. I really don't know, though, so put me some fuckin' information, yo.

Posted by: kalneva at June 10, 2013 08:01 PM (XyrkB)

608 Goodnight, morons.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 08:02 PM (un8zR)

609 593 In the "random personal achievements" department today, I managed to get my little CNC to etch a hollow square, a Greek spiral, and diagonals today through programming alone. I'm inordinately proud of myself.
Posted by: cthulhu
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Fun, ain't it? Wax or metal stock?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 08:02 PM (aDwsi)

610 586 Drunk boat driver, Erin Brockovich, has a prettyhideous mug-shot. That's because her 2 million (IIRC) "fee" for the work she did procuring the PG&E settlement in the Hinkley case went (mostly) into her chest and house, not her face.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 08:02 PM (UR5vq)

611 Diogenes Lamp. What is the movie name?

May want to watch Kapo starring Susan Strasberg. Italian film 1959 in black and white. As I was telling Cthulhu last night one scene was yow. The female prisoners of the concentration camp were carrying the body of a dead woman to an open pit grave where other bodies already were. They put the body down and strip her of her stockings because they are still good. As this is happening they are talking of which one of them will go to the SS guards that night.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 08:03 PM (AKcpz)

612 The subs throw big pills, so seems useful in brush against piggies, or as a modern 30-30. Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 10, 2013 11:53 PM (un8zR) since I/m on Norweigan booze today bon't try to shoot through brush

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 08:04 PM (s/TCI)

613 This should be 24/7 non-stop gun control ammo (pardon the pun). Google results are days old, and don't reveal much..... Posted by: kalneva
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Hell, I just learned tonight that neither CBS nor CNN made any mention of the June 4 IRS hearing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 08:04 PM (aDwsi)

614 Posted by: kalneva at June 11, 2013 12:01 AM (XyrkB)

Shooter was Lebanese. Victim class criminal trumps gun control.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 10, 2013 08:04 PM (U22Yw)

615 why don't people who admit they were banned before get banned again? I thought you guys said nobody ever gets banned here the other night and now everybody claims to have been banned. that cracks me up.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 08:04 PM (7zSvv)

616 Are bad puns a bannable offense? I'm, uh, asking for a friend.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 10, 2013 08:04 PM (XaNba)

617 Here's an off-the-wall question for the Horde: anybody here familiar with the Land Rover Defender? One was just posted for bid by the Canadian Government surplus disposal agency, and it's not far from me, maybe 150 miles. Looks like an ex-British Army unit, which is not surprising, since the Brits do a lot of training at CFB Suffield in eastern Alberta.

The vehicle has a 2.5 liter Diesel engine, and all the four-wheel drive goodies. Hard top, not canvas. And it's right hand drive. I'd post a link, but it's a mile long.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 08:05 PM (fNpC1)

618 535 Hey Cthulhu, TCM almost redeemed itself after Kapo. A movie called The Search filmed in bombed out Germany in 1948 starring Montgomery Clift. About the child survivors of WWII including ones from the concentration camps. Focuses on an almost feral boy who can't speak who escapes from an UNRRA ambulance with other kids because they think they are being gassed since the ambulance exhaust started to leak in. So a GI manages to adopt him and starts to help him. Meanwhile the boy's mother is going from UNRRA camp to another searching for him, he is all she has left since her husband and daughter were murdered in another camp. The ending was happy as mother and child were reunited.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 11:43 PM (AKcpz)

I can only speak for what I should watch -- and I've had enough of intellectual horror, thanktyouverymuch, to have any desire to pursue visual horror.....and I'm not referring to Lovecraft.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 08:05 PM (T1005)

619 btw, Erin Brockobitch still hasn't realized that her 15 minutes of fame burned out a decade ago.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 08:05 PM (UR5vq)

620 night-o all the drool cup runneth over...

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at June 10, 2013 08:05 PM (LRFds)

621 594 "So new XBox will be $500 and new PS4 will be $400. Interesting. Prices just announced today at E3. Posted by: Flatbush Joe"

I think many folks are going to be hesitant to drop $500 on a 1st gen new XBox. Too many people still remember the "red circle of death".

Posted by: Chewbaca at June 11, 2013 12:00 AM (ZolUS)

And remember its not $500 for a new Xbox. That is likely going to just be the base model. But even then. Its $500 for the X-box plus $50-$60 or more for each new game. So that's probably going to be more like $600-$700 intro price. Oh plus the subscription fee to the Xbox Live. And if you want anything more than one single controller.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2013 08:05 PM (LI48c)

622

"542 What the hell is a Wookie doing with a light saber? There are no Wookie Jedis.
Posted by: Lucky Pierre at June 10, 2013 11:44 PM (5fSr7)"

Ok, the NSA just tagged me as nerd for looking this shit up, but here you go...

While Wookie Jedi are not unheard of they should be very rare. The reasoning behind this is the fact that Wookies have a lifespan of around 400 years. This means force sensitive Wookies will be born in much larger intervals than shorter-lived races. You could probably expect a new force sensitive wookie every 1,000 years or so.

George Lucas has declared no more Wookie Jedi will be created for the Expanded Universe. This leaves Tyvokka, Kirlocca and Lowbacca as the only official Wookie Jedi in the Star Wars Universe. Horororibb has been speculated to be a Jedi as well due to the spelling of the name, but its not official. The Wookies have most likely been limited due to overuse. (three in about a 50 year period)

Posted by: Icedog at June 10, 2013 08:05 PM (ZolUS)

623 By "fair", I mean he'd be found hanging from a beam in a vacant factory building somewhere, 80% eaten by rats Posted by: Purp at June 10, 2013 11:54 PM (/gHaE) You think he would be found?

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 08:06 PM (bb5+k)

624 No Seamus they are not, or your friend they are not.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 08:06 PM (HVff2)

625 Five years ago thieves broke into my house and stole my guitars. Left guns in broad view. Included an original red 61 SG and a blond on blonde 63 Strat. I consoled myself with a custom shop Les Paul but someday I will go in a bar and see my SG hanging on somebody. The show will be over.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 11, 2013 12:00 AM (

Shit man, thats a hell of a hit. 5 years ago even more so, they were worth a fuck ton of money, the market wasn't as soft then as today.

Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 08:06 PM (FMbng)

626 Hi ont, how ya'll? Dog barking on tv has my fellers a bit fired up

so, how many are on twitter here?

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:07 PM (vgd4f)

627 Posted by: kalneva at June 11, 2013 12:01 AM (XyrkB)
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I've been wondering the same thing. I think Peaches posted a couple of days ago that the shootings happened near where Zero was speaking (or fundraising, whatever). It crossed my mind, I wonder if the vicinity wasn't coincidental and they're shutting down talk of a possible A attempt? I really don't know though, haven't sought out info to read and am pretty uninformed on the Santa Monica story.

Posted by: Mayday at June 10, 2013 08:07 PM (eHc+1)

628 Cthulhu the reason why horror books and movies tend to have no attraction for me. There is far too much real horror out there to have to manufacture it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 08:08 PM (AKcpz)

629 613 btw, Erin Brockobitch still hasn't realized that her 15 minutes of fame burned out a decade ago. Posted by: Thrawn at June 11, 2013 12:05 AM (UR5vq) ~ Hey, I seem to have misplaced my absolute moral authority.

Posted by: Cindy Sheehan turning tricks at a rest stop at June 10, 2013 08:08 PM (SzAZ7)

630 Yes a good question. I think I read it on drudge or weasel zippers. Pretty sad. This world keeps getting crazier. And I feel like iron grandpa, I doubt if I see a correction but I will keep trying to leave a positive mark. Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 11:55 PM (HVff2) Are you familiar with how trees and brush will accumulate in an environment until it becomes a fire hazard? First spark in dry weather sets the whole thing ablaze. Burns massively all across the land. I feel that way about the accumulation of crazy I see all around me.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 08:09 PM (bb5+k)

631

Had to learn about this on Korean news, but how many of you know this...

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Forty-three years ago Black Sabbath released its debut self-titled album, a collection of songs inspired by occult themes and powered by heavy-metal guitar riffs.

Now, three of the original band members - singer Ozzy Osbourne, guitarist Tony Iommi and bassist Geezer Butler - and drummer Brad Wilk, of Rage Against the Machine, are releasing a new album, "13," and planning to tour the world to promote it.

Posted by: Icedog at June 10, 2013 08:09 PM (3qKP/)

632 OK, I'm out this will make for delightful reading ~~tomorrow morning~~ after the TS 16949 audit Yes, it's that bad tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson is not going to at June 10, 2013 08:09 PM (JMmQ9)

633 No twitter here. I've been taking weekends off from news/current affairs, no news, no TV, no radio, no iPad. Sunday-Thursday night is enough of the real world, ugh & argh

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 08:10 PM (HVff2)

634 What the hell is a Wookie doing with a light saber? There are no Wookie Jedis. *** I love that this is even a question here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 08:10 PM (DPdf7)

635 what is the best unmoderated website on the internet. I wouldn't have thought an open thread late at night would be moderated at all but this one is real strict. even talking about a legal case is dicey if it is not an approved legal case. Somehow the duke lacrosse case, or George Zimmerman, impacts us but not Amanda Knox even though she is an American saying she was railroaded in a foreign country and falsely accused of murder and wants us to oppose her extradition. I guess that I don't understand what the rules are other than it is mob rule.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 10, 2013 08:11 PM (7zSvv)

636 So, just got back from watching "Unforgiven" w Clint Eastwood + Gene Hackman. Still the best Western I've yet seen.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:11 PM (QTHTd)

637 Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 11, 2013 12:06 AM (HVff2) ***** My 'friend' says, "Whew"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 10, 2013 08:11 PM (OtHbW)

638 I feel that way about the accumulation of crazy I see all around me. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 11, 2013 12:09 AM (bb5+k) ~ A ball of confusion.

Posted by: The Temptations at June 10, 2013 08:11 PM (SzAZ7)

639 Bless Cindy's little misguided heart... Cindy dear you lost that authority when George Bush left office and you tried to run against Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 08:11 PM (AKcpz)

640 613 But it is so wonderful that Hollywood has given us a stupid movie in which low information idiots will forever think she did something spectacular. Most of it was all bogus.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 08:11 PM (dXPup)

641 Are you familiar with how trees and brush will accumulate in an environment until it becomes a fire hazard? First spark in dry weather sets the whole thing ablaze. Burns massively all across the land. I feel that way about the accumulation of crazy I see all around me. DL That is ironic you brought this up. I was discussing the same thing with my youngest this weekend.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 08:12 PM (HVff2)

642 >>>Are bad puns a bannable offense? I'm, uh, asking for a friend. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon The are expected and encouraged. As I recall, we were last discussing the clinical hazards of mega Bacon consumption. Sorry Lou, to mention bacon in front of the puppies.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 08:12 PM (4Mv1T)

643 601 Hey all! Sorry if I missed this in earlier conversation, but WTF is up with the embargo on the Santa Monica shootings? Five dead? This should be 24/7 non-stop gun control ammo (pardon the pun). Google results are days old, and don't reveal much. Hmmm. Is it what I'm thinking? Guess-the-party-type bullshit. Must have been the case that even Tingles couldn't manufacture a tie to the Tea Party. I really don't know, though, so put me some fuckin' information, yo.

Posted by: kalneva at June 11, 2013 12:01 AM (XyrkB)

I'm guessin' RoP.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 08:12 PM (T1005)

644 The new Metal Gear trailer was pretty impressive.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 10, 2013 08:12 PM (ZPrif)

645 627 misanthropic, I was thinking of signing up for the twitter, but I have enough problems!

I did read that twitter told the government hell no on people's information, so there's that.

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:13 PM (vgd4f)

646 Anyone see the DailyMail article about Snowden's girlfriend? She's a ballerina that went to the Maryland Institute College of Art. She looks downright hipsterish, I really wonder what the hell is going on with all these North-easterners who are supposedly running our federal govt.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 10, 2013 08:13 PM (b9K4P)

647 625 Had to learn about this on Korean news, but how many of you know this...

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Forty-three years ago Black Sabbath released its debut self-titled album, a collection of songs inspired by occult themes and powered by heavy-metal guitar riffs.
Now, three of the original band members - singer Ozzy Osbourne, guitarist Tony Iommi and bassist Geezer Butler - and drummer Brad Wilk, of Rage Against the Machine, are releasing a new album, "13," and planning to tour the world to promote it.

Posted by: Icedog at June 11, 2013 12:09 AM (3qKP/)

You must have shitty radio stations. I've heard their new single several times. I'm not really all that impressed with it though.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2013 08:13 PM (LI48c)

648 612 -- Have you read "Endgame 1945"? Folks that weren't there tend to assume that things (in Europe) just sort of returned to normal after Germany surrendered. This is a great, well-written book, It addresses the refugee problems, infrastructure problems, food/water/sewage problems. Things were a freaking mess. Huge numbers of displaced people, destroyed cities, no farms etc. Read reviews at:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/638799.Endgame_1945

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 08:14 PM (aDwsi)

649 Mo: [Erin B] a stupid movie

It was a great movie if you were an immature Rage-Against-The-Machine Ronulan like, um, I was at the time.

Then I learnt about how Brockovitch lied her ass off to get the settlement, and my journey to the dark side was complete

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:14 PM (QTHTd)

650 603 593
In the "random personal achievements" department today, I managed to get
my little CNC to etch a hollow square, a Greek spiral, and diagonals
today through programming alone. I'm inordinately proud of myself.

Posted by: cthulhu
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Fun, ain't it? Wax or metal stock?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 11, 2013 12:02 AM (aDwsi)

Red oak. The muse I'm currently following involves using half-assed industrial processes on traditional materials.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 08:14 PM (T1005)

651 I've heard their new single several times. I'm not really all that impressed with it though.

To the extent the Rage crew is/are involved, the probability of suckitude tends toward 1

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:16 PM (QTHTd)

652 I want to know who our pederast Ambassador is.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 10, 2013 08:16 PM (nH8jP)

653 I thought the smithsonian was trying to gather tweets Lou's Girl. But I could be mistaken. And with that said since I have a full day of travels tomorrow time to sign off. All you morons have a great evening and a better tomorrow

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 10, 2013 08:16 PM (HVff2)

654 Hey, I just got back from the bathroom!

Posted by: that guy who has no twitter account at June 10, 2013 08:16 PM (U13jb)

655 Then I learnt about how Brockovitch lied her ass off to get the settlement, and my journey to the dark side was complete Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 11, 2013 12:14 AM (QTHTd) ~ Tell the truth. You found out she didn't look like Julia Roberts.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 08:16 PM (SzAZ7)

656 >Then I learnt about how Brockovitch lied her ass off to get the settlement, and my journey to the dark side was complete. PG&E didn't help themselves by allowing the matter to be settled by arbitration instead of going to trial, but you're essentially correct.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 08:16 PM (UR5vq)

657 647 wow, they are everywhere

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:17 PM (vgd4f)

658 637 601
Hey all! Sorry if I missed this in earlier conversation, but WTF is up
with the embargo on the Santa Monica shootings? Five dead? This should
be 24/7 non-stop gun control ammo (pardon the pun). Google results are
days old, and don't reveal much. Hmmm. Is it what I'm thinking?
Guess-the-party-type bullshit. Must have been the case that even Tingles
couldn't manufacture a tie to the Tea Party. I really don't know,
though, so put me some fuckin' information, yo.

Posted by: kalneva at June 11, 2013 12:01 AM (XyrkB)

I'm guessin' RoP.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 11, 2013 12:12 AM (T1005)

Apparently he's actually an orthodox Christian. I doubt the media is looking at that though. They just see his name and its auto embargo for sounding muslim.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2013 08:17 PM (LI48c)

659 360 Posted by: Peaches at June 10, 2013 10:58 PM (8lmkt) ------ Maybe I did did, but I was awake, while the sleeping me did that. (I often have dreams which seem to have an internal reality in which what has happened in them has happened for my entire life, or for years - time seems distorted, and when I awake, it seems as if I had dreamt the same theme before- that it was part of a series of dreams lasting a lifetime) --------- Gotto to go to sleep headache and long day tomorrow

Posted by: Baldy at June 10, 2013 08:17 PM (tyDFN)

660 I'm guessin' RoP.

Race, not religion. The shooter is from an Orthodox family.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:18 PM (QTHTd)

661 Diogenes Lamp. What is the movie name? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 12:03 AM (AKcpz) Alfred Hitchcock's Documentary German Death Camps http://preview.tinyurl.com/jw92ulf

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 08:18 PM (bb5+k)

662 Mike Hammer, the opening about 15 minutes of The Search is spent showing the effects the war had on children. How furtive they were, how silent, and how like simple robots just follow commands. And the destroyed buildings of Germany are used through out the movie. Or seeing a span of an autobahn bridge totally blasted, those marvelous roads hauntingly empty even as shattered jags of buildings point skyward amidst the rubble.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 08:18 PM (AKcpz)

663 Hey, I seem to have misplaced my absolute moral authority. Posted by: Cindy Sheehan
-----------------------

'Misplaced'? Hell, I'm still trying to find mine. so far, all I got is a handful of free BC pills and a bunch of hipster doofuses hitting on me. Okay, that last part isn't so bad...

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 10, 2013 08:19 PM (aDwsi)

664 Red oak. The muse I'm currently following involves using half-assed industrial processes on traditional materials. Posted by: cthulhu at June 11, 2013 12:14 AM (T1005) ~ What type of CNC do you have? I'm about to head out to my garage and fire mine up. I can't program it from scratch though.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 08:19 PM (SzAZ7)

665 Wow, sad we get the news from the UK. Our media really sucks, but we knew that. Loved Mika getting her panties in a bunch today when caught reading Wh talking points, bitch!

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:20 PM (vgd4f)

666 some M83 shoegaze - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzge5vY72hE

Yes, I found out about them from "Warm Bodies". The man card is in the bin with the rest

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:20 PM (QTHTd)

667 The only way I would hit on Sandra Fluke is with a syringe of Rocephin. From orbit. Only way to be sure.

Posted by: Conserative Crank at June 10, 2013 08:21 PM (bNYYG)

668 Apparently he's actually an orthodox Christian. I doubt the media is looking at that though. They just see his name and its auto embargo for sounding muslim.

Posted by: buzzion at June 11, 2013 12:17 AM (LI48c)

I'm not sure his gun was CA legal, it looked like a 30 round mag from the pics. That put's a pretty big hole the gun grabbers case.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 10, 2013 08:21 PM (b9K4P)

669 Uh..yeah, about all those CIA secrets he claims to know that would put peoples lives in danger.

That part is bullshit. Actual asset names and such are not something his grade level would have been privy to unless we've got fucking Sponge Bob running the US intel agencies..

IAC, "Plan B" was activated days ago at Langley and any data he was privy to has already been scrubbed for any vulnerabilities and mitigating actions already taken.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 10, 2013 08:21 PM (/gHaE)

670 Mike Hammer, the opening about 15 minutes of The Search is spent showing the effects the war had on children. How furtive they were, how silent, and how like simple robots just follow commands. And the destroyed buildings of Germany are used through out the movie. Or seeing a span of an autobahn bridge totally blasted, those marvelous roads hauntingly empty even as shattered jags of buildings point skyward amidst the rubble.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Ever seen a picture of Richmond, VA in 1865?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 10, 2013 08:21 PM (aDwsi)

671

Weirdos at Twitter on Hillary joining in:

Teenage looking boy: "The first thought I had was to call my mom."

Possible Hillary girl groupie: "God, I love this woman." Huh?

Some moron named Buffett with way too much money: "Welcome one of my favorite women in the world." The senility is strong in that one.

Again, I don't know why I care.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 08:21 PM (dXPup)

672 Big Oil! That's the real devil!

Posted by: Phillips 666 at June 10, 2013 08:22 PM (U13jb)

673 so who's tonight's winner?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:22 PM (QTHTd)

674 Ugh. Nasty Fluke sock..., ewwww, ugh.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 08:22 PM (aDwsi)

675 >Tell the truth. You found out she didn't look like Julia Roberts. Even if she did look like Julia Roberts, Brockobitch would still be a white-washed tomb - slightly appealing on the outside, but filled with decay and deceit on the inside.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 10, 2013 08:22 PM (UR5vq)

676 congratulations, phillips. he's some pliers to pull the barbs out

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:22 PM (QTHTd)

677 Not me

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:23 PM (vgd4f)

678 Geeze that seem high. Not into AR's, but why such a high rate if you're using 55gr. slugs? .222 at 1/14 drives tacks with ~50gr. Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 11:54 PM (aDwsi) 55gr works for some things in 1/9, but 1/8 or 1/7 adds to the hit posssibility My thing is to hit the targget or critter with the biggest possible bullit

Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 10, 2013 08:23 PM (s/TCI)

679 Past witching hour. Night kids. Remember to put the cat out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 10, 2013 08:23 PM (aDwsi)

680 Wife is waiting for me to go home. Guess I'd better. Thanks for being you guys, srsly, you guys.

Posted by: mindful webworker and the case of the oil-soaked sock at June 10, 2013 08:23 PM (U13jb)

681 Thanks for the link Diogenes Lamp. I wonder what nightmares I will have tonight.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 08:24 PM (AKcpz)

682 That is ironic you brought this up. I was discussing the same thing with my youngest this weekend. Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 11, 2013 12:12 AM (HVff2) The Feeling is pervasive. Ominous. It feels like Germany before Kristallnacht.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 08:24 PM (bb5+k)

683 I really wonder what the hell is going on with all these North-easterners who are supposedly running our federal govt.

Bunch'o naive amateurs in WAY over their heads.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 10, 2013 08:24 PM (/gHaE)

684 Back to lurking for me. Another time perhaps. Endeavor to persevere y'all. Don't let the trolls get inside your OODA loop.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 10, 2013 08:25 PM (RnwB7)

685 Night Hammer, and the rest of you Morons. Out.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 10, 2013 08:25 PM (4Mv1T)

686 Manuia le afiafi!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 10, 2013 08:26 PM (jGsIV)

687 Oh, and Warm Bodies was the best zombie film I'd seen since Zombieland, so I think you should get to keep your man card BTH.

Posted by: Conserative Crank at June 10, 2013 08:26 PM (bNYYG)

688 Dangit! I didnn't mind waiting thrugh Kevin Bacon for Bad Company, but now I'm waiting through Mel B.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 08:26 PM (DPdf7)

689 Well, Barky may have lied just a little bit. So What! We lie all the time.Prism does the chart internet traffic. But, we can collect real time information using the NarusInsight that we have in San Fran (one of my favorite cities).

NarusInsight capabilities:

"Normalization, Correlation, Aggregation and Analysis provide a model of the user... in real time. that is it can track individual users, monitor which applications they are using (e.g., web browsers, instant messaging application, e-mail) and what they are doing with those applications (e.g., which web sites they have visited, what they have written in the emails/IM conversations), and see how users' activities are connected to each other (e.g., compiling lists of people who visit a certain type of web site or use certain words or phrases in their e-mail messages)."

"High reliability from data collection to data processing and analysis."

"Other capabilities include playback of streaming media (i.e., VoIP), rendering of web pages, extermination of e-mail and the ability to analyze the payload/attachments of e-mail or file transfer protocols... A single NarusInsight machine can monitor traffic equal to... 10 Gbits/s"

"...one NarusInsight installation enable it to monitor the combined traffic of several million broadband users."

http://tinyurl.com/kxaf2e3

[see: NarusInsight system specifications and capabilities via wikipedia]

All of the above is very helpful in keep Barky and I a step ahead of our political opponents. And, it keeps us in power. And, I for one would hate to see it go. Further, wouldn't like to see Barky go to jail for gross misuse of military weapons on US citizens. Good night.

Posted by: Barney F. at June 10, 2013 08:27 PM (m5Tr1)

690 We need a bench in the barrel

Posted by: Thunderb at June 10, 2013 08:28 PM (nH8jP)

691 Are bad puns a bannable offense? I'm, uh, asking for a friend.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
The punishment is death.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 10, 2013 08:29 PM (9+vDU)

692 Thanks, guys, for some new information. Un-reportable, it is! The ideologies collided. Good to know. Goddamit, we're even more boned than I had previously thought, and that was pretty hard up the wrong place.

Posted by: Kalneva at June 10, 2013 08:29 PM (XyrkB)

693 That part is bullshit. Actual asset names and such are not something his grade level would have been privy to unless we've got fucking Sponge Bob running the US intel agencies.. IAC, "Plan B" was activated days ago at Langley and any data he was privy to has already been scrubbed for any vulnerabilities and mitigating actions already taken. Posted by: Purp at June 11, 2013 12:21 AM (/gHaE) ~ Maybe he just wire tapped the President from his desk like all NSA IT guys can do. Seriously though, I think you give the CIA too much credit on operational effectiveness but scrubbing everything like you say certainly can't be good for US Security either.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 08:29 PM (SzAZ7)

694 Posted by: Barney F. at June 11, 2013 12:27 AM (m5Tr1)

You can take the redwood barrel over there, my friend

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:29 PM (QTHTd)

695 Thanks for the link Diogenes Lamp. I wonder what nightmares I will have tonight. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 12:24 AM (AKcpz) Watch it tomorrow. No need to keep yourself up.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 08:29 PM (bb5+k)

696 Wtf Love Tim Tebow, now he's a patriot . I had to put up with him as a bronco, lord forgive me my hateful thoughts, Grant me serenity!

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:30 PM (vgd4f)

697 Bunch'o naive amateurs in WAY over their heads. These 'naive' amateurs are rifling the Treasury.

Posted by: t-bird at June 10, 2013 08:31 PM (FcR7P)

698 Wtf Love Tim Tebow, now he's a patriot . I had to put up with him as a bronco, lord forgive me my hateful thoughts, Grant me serenity! *** This message brought to you by the Bipolar Association of America. WHAT?!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 08:32 PM (DPdf7)

699 Ah yes! They are singing Bad Company!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 08:32 PM (DPdf7)

700 Gateway pundit - John Boehner committed to ram immigration reform through by August!

Posted by: Thunderb at June 10, 2013 08:32 PM (nH8jP)

701 Tim Tebow has renounced Christ and plans to play for a team coached by Satan.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2013 08:33 PM (LI48c)

702 I got caught up in a design problem, just getting here. Good evening, Morons and 'ettes. Maryland damned near washed away this evening.

Posted by: Gingy at June 10, 2013 08:34 PM (aH+zP)

703 I got caught up in a design problem, just getting here. Good evening, Morons and 'ettes. Maryland damned near washed away this evening.

Posted by: Gingy at June 10, 2013 08:34 PM (aH+zP)

704 Now the lamp tells me.... o.O;;

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 08:34 PM (AKcpz)

705 Oh crap.

Posted by: Gingy at June 10, 2013 08:34 PM (aH+zP)

706 We're going to need a bigger barrel...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 10, 2013 08:35 PM (V1ZIU)

707 692 NDH. I love Tim Tebow. I am a Raider fan. Hate the broncos and the patriots. Nothing sinister, I wish him well.

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:35 PM (vgd4f)

708 Gingy luv, Baltimore needs to be washed away.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 08:35 PM (AKcpz)

709 1/7 twist .223 barrel - hmmm

Posted by: Jean
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Geeze that seem high. Not into AR's, but why such a high rate if you're using 55gr. slugs? .222 at 1/14 drives tacks with ~50gr.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

I was thinking heavier +75gr stuff

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2013 08:35 PM (CMlD4)

710 If Jayne Cobb watched Defiance he would never leave his bunk.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2013 08:36 PM (LI48c)

711 NDH. I love Tim Tebow. I am a Raider fan. Hate the broncos and the patriots. Nothing sinister, I wish him well. *** Ahhh. It's the Broncos you hate. I was so confused.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 08:36 PM (DPdf7)

712 Anna, I won't dispute that. I kinda like my bit of MD, though. All my yarn is here.

Posted by: Gingy at June 10, 2013 08:36 PM (aH+zP)

713 Alright, got my liquor and my power tools. Time to make some sawdust and annoy the neighbors. Night All. Cuthulu, Sometime I'd be interested to know what kind of CNC you are using. I have a home built 4' x 4' (Joe's CNC) with Mach3 driving the motors. Still can't program from scratch - that's impressive.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 08:36 PM (SzAZ7)

714 Later people.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 10, 2013 08:37 PM (bb5+k)

715 Tim Tebow has renounced Christ and plans to play for a team coached by Satan. *** No. He is working to spread the Good Word to the other side.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 08:37 PM (DPdf7)

716 I only specified Baltimore. Annapolis and rest of state can stay.

Do I want to know how much yarn? A barn full?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 08:37 PM (AKcpz)

717 Did you hear me? POLITICO REPORTING BOEHNER COMMITED TO RAM IMMIGRATION REFORM THROUGH BY AUGUST

Posted by: Thunderb at June 10, 2013 08:38 PM (nH8jP)

718 Which one of you guys got me interested in underhammers. btw. Might as well buy a sailboat instead of chatting guns here.

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2013 08:38 PM (CMlD4)

719 No. He is working to spread the Good Word to the other side.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 11, 2013 12:37 AM (DPdf7)

I like my joke better

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2013 08:38 PM (LI48c)

720 Some of the reviews for Defiance are noting that it's been hitting its stride lately:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/04/defiance-good-bye-blue-sky-review

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:39 PM (QTHTd)

721 Love Tebow, what a great guy. And looks mighty fine, just saying. Sorry Peaches, dont know if your still here, you know I love ya, but the patriots are the devil

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:39 PM (vgd4f)

722 658 Red oak. The muse I'm currently following involves using half-assed industrial processes on traditional materials.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 11, 2013 12:14 AM (T1005)

~

What type of CNC do you have? I'm about to head out to my garage and fire mine up. I can't program it from scratch though.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 11, 2013 12:19 AM (SzAZ7)

So, I should probably back up and start from the beginning. Way, way back in 1997, I was the Controller for a company that made telecom widgets. We would encase certain circuits in CNC'd cans to avoid signal leakage, and we had gone through a couple of cycles where the cans went down to $20 and up to $89. So we bought our own CNC machines (at about $110K apiece) so we didn't have to put up with that BS.

Fast forward a number of years, and people are hyperventilating about 3D printing, and (later) specifically about guns. So I mosey up to a leading 3D printer shop and sniff around. Super nice guys, BTW, and props to them for playing host.

And I realize that the sucky parts of 3D printing were the materials and the adding-in, where a lot of the cool parts were my old friends from 1997 having a 100:1 price reduction. Even if you're only talking guns, it's much, much, much better to begin with a billet of aluminum and mill that puppy out than start with air and try to build a lower out of lego plastic. Besides, they both run off the same G-codes.

So I decided to look into mills -- specifically mill conversions (being as the price drop hasn't hit prebuilt tools as much). And I decided to open a parallel track with a "toy" that I'd discovered elsewhere. On the mill side, I'm looking at Sieg -- and got a wild deal on Harbor Freight's version (sale for 30% off, coupon for 20% off that). On the "toy" side, I went with http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=31661&site=ROCKLER -- which, BTW, I got for substantially under list.

So, I'm exploring a few things and mulling some concepts around.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 08:39 PM (T1005)

723 Hola Horde-sters. Another busy day in scandalville...

Posted by: zeera at June 10, 2013 08:40 PM (3dXwx)

724 710 @Anna Are resident aliens allowed to plead the fifth?

Posted by: Gingy at June 10, 2013 08:40 PM (aH+zP)

725 711 Thunderbird, dirty bastards all!

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:41 PM (vgd4f)

726 so did Apple not at least hint on the release date of 7? Can't find anything in anyone's writeups

Posted by: The Dude at June 10, 2013 08:42 PM (vJdyz)

727 PRISM US Gov ‏@PRISM_NSA 13m Just put a new motivational poster up in the office - what do you think? pic.twitter.com/pEbZV0Hr3c

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 10, 2013 08:44 PM (DPdf7)

728 The first reviews are in for "Man of Steel". RottenTomatoes, 91%.

But. I'm also looking at who's reviewing it. No-one you've heard of, in short.

I'm getting a "MacGruber" vibe. They screened this thing to pre-selected bloggers and nerds.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:44 PM (QTHTd)

729 As scandals go, the revelation that Clinton's State Department has been bangin' hos and covering up ranks about a 26% on the Scandalometer.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:46 PM (QTHTd)

730

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 11, 2013 12:44 AM (QTHTd)

get to see it on thursday, hope it's good

Posted by: The Dude at June 10, 2013 08:46 PM (vJdyz)

731 Maybe the gang of three, Lee, Cruz & Paul need to filibuster the house and put a stop to everything these dirty assholes try to put through!!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:47 PM (vgd4f)

732 I am watching "This Is The End" tomorrow, in sha'llah

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:48 PM (QTHTd)

733 711 Yet he'll probably chicken out when it comes to the IRS or the NSA thing. Trey Gowdy will probably be the only person in Congress trying to find out any information by like August. Boehner and the establishment Republicans are sissified.

Posted by: Mo the girl at June 10, 2013 08:49 PM (dXPup)

734 726 I am watching "This Is The End" tomorrow, in sha'llah

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 11, 2013 12:48 AM (QTHTd)

They're all playing themselves in the movie.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2013 08:51 PM (LI48c)

735 Oops forgot Paul and Cruz were senators, sorry

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:51 PM (vgd4f)

736 we can haz voat uv noe konfidens?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 10, 2013 08:52 PM (QTHTd)

737 "On the mill side, I'm looking at Sieg -- and got a wild deal on Harbor Freight's version (sale for 30% off, coupon for 20% off that)."

I have two simple rules about Horror Fright. No power tools. Nothing that costs more than thirty bucks. I've been pretty happy following those rules.

My friends who bought expensive and/or powered stuff from HF? Not very happy.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 10, 2013 08:53 PM (gqT4g)

738 No CNC here. But I did some lathe work yesterday. Took a 1" bolt from my scrap bin, and turned it down to 7/8" O.D., center-drilled it, and bored it to 7/16" I.D., and cut off a length and faced off the ends to make a spacer exactly 3/4" long. The traces of the old threads appear on the outside of the finished part, but it doesn't matter, as it is just a spacer for an idler pulley, and is out of sight once installed.

Today I built a little handcart to tote an argon cylinder and the little TIG welder I bought from Harbor Freight. Hooked it all up, and even ran a bead!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 08:53 PM (fNpC1)

739 probably the best video I've seen so far of the big fight Monday morning in EVE

http://youtu.be/rvzQzcvsbgg

so much fun being in that fight

Posted by: The Dude at June 10, 2013 08:53 PM (vJdyz)

740 Well fer fuck sake, Lee is a senator too, damn I am drunk.

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 08:55 PM (vgd4f)

741 684 We need a bench in the barrel

-----------

I hear Xi has one he'd probably be willing to part with.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 10, 2013 08:55 PM (U82Km)

742 Using all this hi tech to spy on every American for supposed security while leaving the border wide open is like installing motion detectors and cameras in your house and then leaving all the doors unlocked

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2013 08:56 PM (mCvL4)

743 731 "On the mill side, I'm looking at Sieg -- and got a wild deal on Harbor
Freight's version (sale for 30% off, coupon for 20% off that)."

I have two simple rules about Horror Fright. No power tools. Nothing that costs more than thirty bucks. I've been pretty happy following those rules.

My friends who bought expensive and/or powered stuff from HF? Not very happy.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 11, 2013 12:53 AM (gqT4g)

Quite a lot of their stuff is an imitation of something worthwhile, good for one use only, if that. I wouldn't generally buy an item from them where I was trying to make a living with it. When it gets to machine tools, though, it abruptly goes weird -- many of their lathes and mills come from the same factory as grizzly.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 08:59 PM (T1005)

744 That bench that Obama gave to Xi.... it was an odd color. Was it made of recycled plastic, and not wood? I've seen some recycled plastic park benches, and they are a pale, mottled green.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 08:59 PM (fNpC1)

745 oh and for the curious, that fight had about $10000 worth of shit going pop. Get to do it all over again in a couple of hours

Posted by: The Dude at June 10, 2013 08:59 PM (vJdyz)

746 646 I want to know who our pederast Ambassador is.

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We have relations with Pederastia?

Posted by: Anachronda at June 10, 2013 09:00 PM (U82Km)

747 I have two simple rules about Horror Fright. No power tools. Nothing that costs more than thirty bucks. I've been pretty happy following those rules.

My friends who bought expensive and/or powered stuff from HF? Not very happy.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 11, 2013 12:53 AM (gqT4g)]

The HF Sieg X2 mills seem to be slightly better than the usual cheapy HF power tools. There's a whole mini-industry of after-market parts and upgrades for them and forums dedicated to X2 users.

Posted by: Mætenloch at June 10, 2013 09:00 PM (XkotV)

748 We have relations with Pederastia?

Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2013 01:00 AM (U82Km)

Yes, but they are unnatural.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 09:01 PM (fNpC1)

749 736 Using all this hi tech to spy on every American for supposed security while leaving the border wide open is like installing motion detectors and cameras in your house and then leaving all the doors unlocked

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The open borders are a cunning plan to lure the furriners in so they can be spied upon.

Posted by: Baldrick, Purveyor of Cunning Plans at June 10, 2013 09:01 PM (U82Km)

750 "Here's an off-the-wall question for the Horde: anybody here familiar with the Land Rover Defender? One was just posted for bid by the Canadian Government surplus disposal agency, and it's not far from me, maybe 150 miles. Looks like an ex-British Army unit, which is not surprising, since the Brits do a lot of training at CFB Suffield in eastern Alberta."

The Defender has a decent reputation among Land Rover people. Though I would wonder why the Canadian authorities are disposing of HMG/MOD property.

Unless there's some gentlemens' agreement under which that happens with Brit kit that's not cost effective to ship home. If so, put me down for any Challenger II you find listed.

As with any Internet military surplus, the most highly talked up stuff in the listings are the things you probably don't want to buy. The good stuff that was well maintained has been quietly mentioned off-net to the friends of those on the inside, and then posted with an unpromising description and offputting photo to hold the bids down.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 10, 2013 09:02 PM (gqT4g)

751 Aww Allen West on Greta. Love him. Night all.

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 10, 2013 09:03 PM (vgd4f)

752 We have relations with Pederastia? Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2013 01:00 AM (U82Km) Does this mean that Reid will resign the Senate for the ambassadorship?

Posted by: Ambassador to Symbonia at June 10, 2013 09:08 PM (XvHmy)

753 I bought a $90.00 Harbor Freight portable band saw. I cut ONE chainlink fence line pole and it quit. I bought another Milwaukee, which will outlive me.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 10, 2013 09:10 PM (XihDb)

754 Night all. Speaking of Black Sabbath, here is their debut album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4m79oGDT_I

Posted by: Ambassador to Symbonia at June 10, 2013 09:12 PM (XvHmy)

755 Gingy, sure you can.

Aaawww Amazon is now showing my pre-order for Limits of Power by Elizabeth Moon is shipping now. Should I also order the Kindle version? So have my hardcover version but read it all tonight?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 09:13 PM (AKcpz)

756 As with any Internet military surplus, the most highly talked up stuff in the listings are the things you probably don't want to buy. The good stuff that was well maintained has been quietly mentioned off-net to the friends of those on the inside, and then posted with an unpromising description and offputting photo to hold the bids down.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 11, 2013 01:02 AM (gqT4g)

This one is listed as a non-runner, with bids starting at $1000. 1991 model. Photos indicate the valve cover is off the engine. I wonder who the engine maker was?

I am currently driving a 2008 Suburban that I bought last October in a similar government auction as a non-runner. Fixed a wiring fuckup caused by the clumsy removal of an aftermarket remote-start system, and it runs like a pup, and only 170,000 km on it.

I expect that the Brits mile out or otherwise write off equipment at Suffield, and sign them over to the Canadian Forces for disposal, rather than incur the expense of shipping them back to the UK. I have seen some LHD Defenders go up for bid, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 09:13 PM (fNpC1)

757 747 I bought a $90.00 Harbor Freight portable band saw. I cut ONE chainlink fence line pole and it quit. I bought another Milwaukee, which will outlive me.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 11, 2013 01:10 AM (XihDb)

Sounds about right. I've gotten 2 uses out of my Rockwell oscillating saw clone and figure I'm ahead.

And just as one of those "small-world" thingies -- my BiL (sister's hub) used to write copy for their ads.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 09:14 PM (T1005)

758 Hey AoP thought you would be bidding on that Jaguar XK saloon?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 09:15 PM (AKcpz)

759 DANCE! http://youtu.be/4WZS2l9QldM

Posted by: logprof at June 10, 2013 09:16 PM (+iA5G)

760 D.O.A. was the first Sabbath song I ever heard. "Holy shit, what is that?"

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 10, 2013 09:17 PM (XihDb)

761 @749 Then I'm gonna. You are welcome to ask husband Weirddave about my yarn stash. He doesn't complain due to the lovely cashmere hand-knit socks.

Posted by: Gingy at June 10, 2013 09:17 PM (aH+zP)

762 This current situation shows that the use of special prosecutors is dead for at least 20 years.
There are presently over a half dozen reasons to have a special prosecutor and there are none.
Exactly when in the future will it ever become even more Â“direÂ” than now ? It wonÂ’t.
The next Democrat to call for a special prosecutor will be laughed out of the Congress.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 10, 2013 09:18 PM (e8kgV)

763 LOL Gingy, got a couple friends like that. Large stashes of yarn.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 09:20 PM (AKcpz)

764 I bought a $90.00 Harbor Freight portable band saw. I cut ONE chainlink fence line pole and it quit. I bought another Milwaukee, which will outlive me.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 11, 2013 01:10 AM (XihDb)

Milwaukee stuff is the awesome. I have about 4-5 pieces that are about 20-25 years old and are still kicking like new. The harbor freight stuff is a crap shoot, a lot of it is junk. I had a heat gun from them with only about 10 min on it. One time I went to use it and the fucking thing let loose. It spun up to what sounded like 30,000 RPM and started shooting sparks out of the sides. I replaced it with.... you guessed it, a Milwaukee.

Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 09:20 PM (FMbng)

765 I bought a $90.00 Harbor Freight portable band saw. I cut ONE chainlink fence line pole and it quit. I bought another Milwaukee, which will outlive me.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 11, 2013 01:10 AM (XihDb)

Buying that Chinese-made stuff is a crapshoot. I once bought a 4" angle grinder at the Portland Swap Meet from one of those dealers in offshore tools. Paid a whole 12 dollars for it. Got it home and plugged it in, and it ran so damn slow, I figured that it had been designed for 240 volts, and made with a 120 volt plug. Closer examination revealed that the brushes had been installed with a convex face on the commutator side, instead of concave to match the curvature of the commutator. Fixed that, and it worked great. And it's still working. Can't kill the thing. I have another new one in a box that I haven't touched, because that old twelve-buck POS is still cranking it out. Go figure.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 09:22 PM (fNpC1)

766 @753 no me interesa, desdechadamente

Posted by: Not Icelandic, but Borges liked sagas at June 10, 2013 09:23 PM (c9aNZ)

767 Hey AoP thought you would be bidding on that Jaguar XK saloon?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 01:15 AM (AKcpz)

That auction comes up on the 23rd of this month, Anna. I Hope to be there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 09:24 PM (fNpC1)

768 HF, Grizzly and other sources of Chinese machinery: There's a general thought that most of it is the same design, but some companies pay a premium to get first selection from a production run. Thus, a Grizzly mill might look exactly like a Tormach, as it came from the same production run from a supplier (like Seig), but need considerable adjustment, some parts replacement and maybe even some rework to achieve the quality that the Tormach delivers. If you're willing to disassemble, clean, check, adjust, and reassemble a mill, then HF isn't such a bad buy, and the knowledge and skills gained from the process are valuable. I have a few HF power tools, but I only buy (and bought) when they were on sale ... really on sale. I don't make my living using them, and I don't need them very often ... but when I do, I have them. Plus, I figure very few people will steal them, and if they are stolen, my loss is much less than if I had a set of Makita, DeWalt, Snap On, Matco, ... Torquewrench's $30.00 limit is probably a good one, although I paid $66 for the portable band saw (major sale and 20% coupon, haven't used it enough to say "yes" or "no"), and $50 for the cordless 1/4" impact driver (I like it so far). But the DC motor is "noisy"; lots of small sparks thrown when it runs. Maybe this will change as the brushes wear. It came with extra brushes, so I immediately looked to see if McMaster carries replacements (I think so). I did pick up a 20-ton press, a 2-ton engine hoist and a 36" bending brake. The first 2 items I chose because I know a couple of people who have them, and describe them as acceptable and reliable. The brake is essentially a large steel hinge ... what could go wrong? In all cases, there are certain (cast) parts I'm likely to replace with rolled steel copies.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 10, 2013 09:24 PM (FlRtG)

769 AoP, good luck on it. I just like the lines on those XKs far more than what others call Jaguar's most beautiful car the E-Type.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 09:25 PM (AKcpz)

770 711 Did you hear me? POLITICO REPORTING BOEHNER COMMITED TO RAM IMMIGRATION REFORM THROUGH BY AUGUST Posted by: Thunderb at June 11, 2013 12:38 AM (nH8jP) Just what is it about DC that turns people into tyrants? Weird magnetic field?

Posted by: Mindy mostly lurks at June 10, 2013 09:26 PM (wnOky)

771 Srsly, who needs metadata? All I need is video to be sure. Pics suggest nrly all. What's wrong w/u ppl? Pork-dipped rounds: http://preview.tinyurl.com/oaeyn3l

Posted by: Not Icelandic, but Borges liked sagas at June 10, 2013 09:27 PM (c9aNZ)

772 I wish I could shoot people in Animal Crossing. Alas, it's a Nintendo game.

Posted by: Zakn at June 10, 2013 09:28 PM (Bvf82)

773 LOL Zakn. If you could shoot people in that game, probably win some kind of PETA Defender of Gaia Award.

Mindy, blame the meteor that hit the DC region. Its been emitting strange radiation all these eons.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 09:29 PM (AKcpz)

774 hi all
what did I miss?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 10, 2013 09:32 PM (9GG/0)

775 Where'd Snowden go? Class? Anyone?

Posted by: Not Icelandic, but Borges liked sagas at June 10, 2013 09:32 PM (c9aNZ)

776 I did pick up a 20-ton press, a 2-ton engine hoist and a 36" bending brake. The first 2 items I chose because I know a couple of people who have them, and describe them as acceptable and reliable. The brake is essentially a large steel hinge ... what could go wrong? In all cases, there are certain (cast) parts I'm likely to replace with rolled steel copies.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 11, 2013 01:24 AM (FlRtG)

You bring up a good point, Arb. We don't have Harbor Freight here in Canada, but we do have Princess Auto, which carries a similar line of products, plus a lot of stuff under their own brands. I figure when you buy a major tool from them, it is best to regard it as a construction project. You have the nucleus of a good tool, but it needs some tweaking and some custom touches to be really useful. I recently bought a 40 gallon solvent-wash tank, and the L-brackets for the lid prop were attached with wimpy sheet metal screws, and the brackets twisted. Couple spots of weld fixed that. And while I was at it, I welded on an axle, and gave it a pair of wheels, and welded a pair of handles on the other end, so I can trundle it around.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 09:34 PM (fNpC1)

777 761

HF, Grizzly and other sources of Chinese machinery: There's a general thought that most of it is the same design, but some companies pay a premium to get first selection from a production run. Thus, a Grizzly mill might look exactly like a Tormach, as it came from the same production run from a supplier (like Seig), but need considerable adjustment, some parts replacement and maybe even some rework to achieve the quality that the Tormach delivers.

If you're willing to disassemble, clean, check, adjust, and reassemble a mill, then HF isn't such a bad buy, and the knowledge and skills gained from the process are valuable.

I have a few HF power tools, but I only buy (and bought) when they were on sale ... really on sale. I don't make my living using them, and I don't need them very often ... but when I do, I have them. Plus, I figure very few people will steal them, and if they are stolen, my loss is much less than if I had a set of Makita, DeWalt, Snap On, Matco, ...

Torquewrench's $30.00 limit is probably a good one, although I paid $66 for the portable band saw (major sale and 20% coupon, haven't used it enough to say "yes" or "no"), and $50 for the cordless 1/4" impact driver (I like it so far). But the DC motor is "noisy"; lots of small sparks thrown when it runs. Maybe this will change as the brushes wear. It came with extra brushes, so I immediately looked to see if McMaster carries replacements (I think so).

I did pick up a 20-ton press, a 2-ton engine hoist and a 36" bending brake. The first 2 items I chose because I know a couple of people who have them, and describe them as acceptable and reliable. The brake is essentially a large steel hinge ... what could go wrong? In all cases, there are certain (cast) parts I'm likely to replace with rolled steel copies.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 11, 2013 01:24 AM (FlRtG)

A couple of things....

If I'm really, really, really lucky -- I can make the motor mounts for the Sieg off of the toy. My understanding is that the Sieg is pretty similar across platforms and that the real fun is doing things like gear -> belt conversions.

HF is HF. I sure as hell wouldn't take it 80 miles to a job site and expect it to work. OTOH, if I wanted to try something on a shop bench to see if it blows up, HF stuff nicely fills in.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 10, 2013 09:34 PM (T1005)

778 David Brooks, clueless as ever

He says the big problem is that we're just too darn cynical and won't trust and admire institutions. It never occurs to Brooksie that trust has to be earned

http://tinyurl.com/mo8ycn6

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2013 09:36 PM (mCvL4)

779

Berserker, I have a few Milwaukee tools too, including a 1/2" right angle drill. That son of a bitch beat me to a pulp in the attic trying to bore through a top plate near the roof line. They have all the power.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 10, 2013 09:36 PM (XihDb)

780 POLITICO REPORTING BOEHNER COMMITED TO RAM IMMIGRATION REFORM THROUGH BY AUGUST Posted by: Thunderb Oh, Politico! They would never try to distract conservatives ever! But then again, GOP #winnings.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 10, 2013 09:36 PM (SX6wc)

781 AoP, good luck on it. I just like the lines on those XKs far more than what others call Jaguar's most beautiful car the E-Type.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 01:25 AM (AKcpz)

There is an XK-140 fixed-head coupe, which is a damn pretty car, and I think 3 E-types, two for sure, and some later saloon car Jags. I'm not a huge fan of Jaguars, but the E-types, and the XK are such pretty cars that I might get in the bidding if they don't immediately go to crazy prices. The later saloons? Probably not. Nice drivers, when they are working, but trouble-prone.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 09:39 PM (fNpC1)

782 Re: machine tools, my old buddy, the Widget King, had an enormous Bridgeport milling machine in his basement. He and his uncle disassembled it to move it down there. At the time, we worked off an antiquated hydroelectric municipal plant, and the current wasn't always conditioned. Some Norwegian thing, idk. Anyway, when the power browned out, all the neighbors blamed the Bridgeport, Jus' sayin'. Tools are one thing. Power is another. The Amish all had a big diesel on a steel-wheeled cart. Never saw an inverter, but did see lots (and lots) of belts and shafts. Jus' sayin.

Posted by: Not Icelandic, but Borges liked sagas at June 10, 2013 09:39 PM (c9aNZ)

783 I have a grizzly thickness sander, it works pretty good, no complaints other than the sanding belt being a bastard to change. When I was looking for a new wood bandsaw I noticed that their bottom line 14" model was china, but as soon as you went a level up it was Taiwan made stuff, which usually is better.

In a nutshell, I fucking hate chinese stuff, its usually crude garbage. There are a few gems, but a lot of it is junk.

Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 09:40 PM (FMbng)

784 "This one is listed as a non-runner, with bids starting at $1000. 1991 model. Photos indicate the valve cover is off the engine."

Good sign!

"I wonder who the engine maker was?"

Rover vehicles have had all sorts of motors in them over the years. Including a nice little Buick V8 from back when Detroit actually did innovative engine designs. And BMW motors once upon a time. As for what's in a '91 UK-spec Defender in Alberta? No idea off the top of my head.

My general impression of that era of Land Rovers is that the rather sturdy bodies tended to outlive the powertrain, so finding a replacement diesel might mean you would get in bidding wars with other owners of that generation. I also have no idea how hard it is to deal with importing a replacement engine in Canuckistan. Or what the issues might be with the local authorities over installing said engine.

Also, how serious are the current corporate owners of Land Rover about supporting legacy products from 20-plus years ago? Sometimes it's hard to get similar legacy support even from companies that haven't been bought and resold repeatedly.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 10, 2013 09:40 PM (gqT4g)

785 Happy-ish Monday night, all y'all ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at June 10, 2013 09:40 PM (Jv4FA)

786 Berserker, I have a few Milwaukee tools too, including a 1/2" right angle drill. That son of a bitch beat me to a pulp in the attic trying to bore through a top plate near the roof line. They have all the power.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 11, 2013 01:36 AM (XihDb)

I saw a plumber destroy his shoulder one day with one of those. It caught a nail in a stud and slammed his ass against the wall. He got fucked up. I swear if you can mount the fucker on wheels it would pull down a house.

Posted by: Berserker at June 10, 2013 09:42 PM (FMbng)

787 Exactly AoP, the XK140 has beautiful lines. The E-Type has always struck me as a lozenge on wheels.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 09:44 PM (AKcpz)

788 *looks at the Amazon Kindle price for book and shakes head no.*

$12.99 for electrons? I can wait for the dead tree version.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 09:46 PM (AKcpz)

789 @780 I suspect that';s the way the atmosphere sees it, too. Like a 300 gr. .338 bullet.

Posted by: Not Icelandic, but Borges liked sagas at June 10, 2013 09:48 PM (c9aNZ)

790 It should be noted that there are indications that the quality of the Chinese products is increasing. We saw this in the 60's and 70's with Japanese products (Toyota, Honda, Mori-Seki, ...), then with Taiwan, then with Korea (Samsung, Hyundai), and the quality is still there. The price caught up a few years later. I expect that the Chinese products will follow the same trend, and I notice that a few HF power tools look suspiciously like the "good" level of products offered by Lowes, Home Depot and Sears. Perhaps this is an example of production-run selection and rebranding. Before I'd take a power tool from HF 80 miles to do something important, I'd have to use it for a while, to break it in and verify its reliability. This is one of the general problems with the lower-level of Chinese products: highly-variable quality control. In any event, I'd use the HF tool with more care and less stress than the equivalent Ryobi, or Craftsman, or even Rigid.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 10, 2013 09:48 PM (FlRtG)

791 I wish I could shoot people in Animal Crossing. Alas, it's a Nintendo game.

Posted by: Zakn at June 11, 2013 01:28 AM (Bvf82)

I DON'T HAVE YOUR FUCKING BELLS MAN! GIVE ME A WEEK AND I'LL PAY YOU BACK!

Posted by: The Dude at June 10, 2013 09:48 PM (vJdyz)

792 hope there is another big fight this morning, i doubt it though

Posted by: The Dude at June 10, 2013 09:49 PM (vJdyz)

793

My 9" Milwaukee portable grinder has a 1/2 hp motor. My son calls it the "lightsaber" because of the sound it makes. I used it for stone work when I was building the patio but I am wary of it too.

To music:

Too bad all of us couldn't get together and grind those guitars at some national meetup. I have a 180 watt Fender Super Twin that used to belong to Uncle Ted. Will knock birds off the high-line.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 10, 2013 09:50 PM (XihDb)

794 780 Exactly AoP, the XK140 has beautiful lines. The E-Type has always struck me as a lozenge on wheels.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 01:44 AM

PHILISTINE!!!!!!!

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2013 09:51 PM (mCvL4)

795 Rover vehicles have had all sorts of motors in them over the years. Including a nice little Buick V8 from back when Detroit actually did innovative engine designs. And BMW motors once upon a time. As for what's in a '91 UK-spec Defender in Alberta? No idea off the top of my head.

My general impression of that era of Land Rovers is that the rather sturdy bodies tended to outlive the powertrain, so finding a replacement diesel might mean you would get in bidding wars with other owners of that generation. I also have no idea how hard it is to deal with importing a replacement engine in Canuckistan. Or what the issues might be with the local authorities over installing said engine.

Also, how serious are the current corporate owners of Land Rover about supporting legacy products from 20-plus years ago? Sometimes it's hard to get similar legacy support even from companies that haven't been bought and resold repeatedly.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 11, 2013 01:40 AM (gqT4g)

Heh. I happen to have the Olds incarnation of that 215 aluminum V8 sitting on a cart in my garage. And it's a runner, too.

Well, I will enter a bid on that Defender just for the sheer hell of it. I am no stranger to sourcing parts for obscure and obsolete cars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 09:52 PM (fNpC1)

796 Mindy, blame the meteor that hit the DC region. Its been emitting strange radiation all these eons. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 01:29 AM (AKcpz) Hope the few, precious, good guys are using some sort of protection. Hi, Anna!

Posted by: Mindy mostly lurks at June 10, 2013 09:52 PM (wnOky)

797

Posted by: Arbalest at June 11, 2013 01:48 AM (FlRtG)

We see that with building drilling rigs too. In the 80's it ws Japan. Now Korea dominates and the quality is excellent. I'm in Singapore at the moment rebuilding a rig. Actually I'm fucking off on the ONT I guess.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 10, 2013 09:53 PM (XihDb)

798 759 @753 no me interesa, desdechadamente Posted by: Not Icelandic, but Borges liked sagas at June 11, 2013 01:23 AM (c9aNZ) --Heh, my bebecito begs to differ.

Posted by: logprof at June 10, 2013 09:55 PM (+iA5G)

799 Premiums set to go up 88 percent in Ohio. Might as well end the day with good news.

Posted by: RWC at June 10, 2013 09:56 PM (Wl/Ht)

800 Rover vehicles have had all sorts of motors in them over the years. Including a nice little Buick V8 from back when Detroit actually did innovative engine designs.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 11, 2013 01:40 AM

That was originally the aluminum block 215 that GM put in Buick Specials, Olds F-85's, and Pontiac Tempests in 1962. A lot of power for the small size, even the 2 bbl got 155 hp and it was very light. The 4 bbl got 210 hp, but like a lot of GM innovations, they had bugs in it and gave up on it rather than fix them.

Someone from Rover saw one being used in a power boat, bought the rights from GM, fixed the overheating problems, and it had a long life as the Rover 3.5 L engine

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2013 09:58 PM (mCvL4)

801 Exactly AoP, the XK140 has beautiful lines. The E-Type has always struck me as a lozenge on wheels.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 01:44 AM (AKcpz)

I see them as apples and oranges. The XK cars have the swoopy Art Deco styling of the 1930's, even though they were designed in the early '50s. British car builders simply picked up where they left off, after WWII.

The E-types have their own sort of beauty. Jag did kind of a quantum leap, from the stodgy cars of the '50s to something quite space-age.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 09:59 PM (fNpC1)

802 For years, I always wondered how the German people could be so taken in by such an evil man. I don't wonder any more, at all. A couple of years ago, I read a link (probably posted here) to an article written after the WW2 years by a woman (iirc) who'd live through them. She said she'd look around a room and she could tell which people would have been collaborators and which would not, by their personality characteristics. That article made me think a lot, and I realized several people I know are "go along to get along" types (including, depressingly, one of my sisters who is definitely conservative though not politically minded). An excellent read on this topic is Defying Hitler by Sebastian Haffner. It's an account written by an Aryan German before and during he Nazi rise. Haffner never published the account but his son did after his fathers death. Its a fascinating read exploring some very uncomfortable realities about the frailty of human nature.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 10, 2013 10:00 PM (JRU+g)

803 lol someone stole all of Giant Bomb's shit

Posted by: The Dude at June 10, 2013 10:02 PM (vJdyz)

804 Its a matter of aesthetics and to me the E-Types do not look right. I have the same aversion to TR-7s and Aztecs. Even the Dolphin looks a bit odd but not as wildly odd as the E.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 10:02 PM (AKcpz)

805 And some of the unique cultural influences which grant authoritarian systems a stronger hold than they might normally have.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 10, 2013 10:05 PM (JRU+g)

806 797 Its a matter of aesthetics and to me the E-Types do not look right. I have the same aversion to TR-7s and Aztecs. Even the Dolphin looks a bit odd but not as wildly odd as the E.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 02:02 AM

Lumping in the TR-7 and Aztec with the Jag E-type is like lumping in Kathy Griffin with Kate Upton

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2013 10:06 PM (mCvL4)

807 A writer covering the Eichmann trial remarked about "how normal and ordinary he seemed"

Most of the worst monsters of the Third Reich were men with families and interests who were "Just Like You"

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2013 10:09 PM (mCvL4)

808 Probably Hannah Arendt Eichmann in Jerusalem. The banality if evil. Excellent read as well.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 10, 2013 10:11 PM (JRU+g)

809 http://preview.tinyurl.com/qd9ft5v Dip your own for maximum pork effect.

Posted by: Not Icelandic, but Borges liked sagas at June 10, 2013 10:12 PM (c9aNZ)

810 Its a matter of aesthetics and to me the E-Types do not look right. I have the same aversion to TR-7s and Aztecs. Even the Dolphin looks a bit odd but not as wildly odd as the E.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 02:02 AM (AKcpz)

Funny you should mention TR-7s. back in the '80s, a friend of mine had a TR-7 roadster. With a 5-speed transmission, and a slant-four engine the looked like it came out of a Russian tractor. Well, the transmission in the car piled up, and the engine had a coolant leak from the head gasket, and getting a new transmission was several thousand bucks, even then. So we got a 12A Mazda rotary, and 5-speed transmission from an outfit that imported low-mileage used engines from Japan, and swapped that in. It wasn't too hard to do. Biggest issue was the thermal reactor on the exhaust ports got in the way of the steering tie rods. We solved that problem by making tube headers. Would you believe that all the warning lights in the dash, for things like low oil, low coolant, and temperature, matched up with the sending units on the engine on a one-for-one basis, and all worked? It was like Triumph had intended to use a rotary engine in that car, and then abandoned the idea at the last minute. Oh, the tach read correctly too.

The car was a blast to drive with the rotary in it. Not much faster than before, but smoother, and it sounded like two angry chain saws under the hood.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 10:14 PM (fNpC1)

811 http://preview.tinyurl.com/3y29mz "Magnificat" by Arvo PÃ¤rt; Mary announces it magnifies her soul to be used by God for His purposes. http://preview.tinyurl.com/35g7k8 'nuff said. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkmKwpjD9OU Order damps the random. Life reverses entropy.

Posted by: Not Icelandic, but Borges liked sagas at June 10, 2013 10:14 PM (c9aNZ)

812 Ordinary Men and [Hitlers Willing Executioners[/i] offer a couple if conflicting interpretations of just what kind of men (and women) could conduct themselves as the Nazis did.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 10, 2013 10:14 PM (JRU+g)

813 Premiums set to go up 88 percent in Ohio.

Might as well end the day with good news.

Good news: I don't live in Ohio

Bad news: I live in Illinois

Worse news: Health insurance? Bahahahahaha

Posted by: Methos at June 10, 2013 10:16 PM (hO9ad)

814 I get the feeling I am stomping on kbdabear's toes about the E-Type.

Sorry but I am not arguing the concept of beauty, I am arguing that my personal idea of aesthetics says that are not right looking.

Two angry chainsaws under the hood? Wow. How was the throttle response and acceleration?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 10, 2013 10:19 PM (AKcpz)

815 Night rons and ettes.

Posted by: Simpleton Wonkish Rogue at June 10, 2013 10:21 PM (JRU+g)

816 Anna, are you still here?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 10, 2013 10:27 PM (9GG/0)

817 Two angry chainsaws under the hood? Wow. How was the throttle response and acceleration?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 02:19 AM (AKcpz)

Just fine. No flat spot. You had to use the transmission. Low-end torque is not a strong point in the rotary engine. And you don't want to rev them over about 7000 RPM, although they will happily rev faster. We were warned that the apex seals start to flutter in their grooves at about 8000 RPM, and will destroy themselves in a few seconds.

Fun fact: the header tubes would glow red hot after any kind of spirited driving. Rotary engines are like 2-strokes, in that the exhaust is ported by the rotor itself, and the mixture is still burning when the port opens. Hence the exhaust note, and the need for elaborate emission controls on the Mazda cars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2013 10:31 PM (fNpC1)

818 oh well, guess not.
well, good night

Posted by: chemjeff at June 10, 2013 11:03 PM (9GG/0)

819 Jeff, can you comment on the derivation of conjugated linolenic acid from safflower oil? Real quick?

Posted by: Not Icelandic, but Borges liked sagas at June 10, 2013 11:04 PM (c9aNZ)

820 umm, no

Posted by: chemjeff at June 10, 2013 11:09 PM (9GG/0)

821 Thanks, anyway. Night all 'rons and 'ronettes! Sweet dreams! And for you denizens of the Deep Blue cities, where Reality is deemed offensive, don't let the bedbugs bite.

Posted by: Not Icelandic, but Borges liked sagas at June 10, 2013 11:15 PM (c9aNZ)

822 Cthulu, et. al. I'm done in the garage for the night and wish I hadn't missed all the tool talk. I seldom buy anything at HF. I got a cut-off saw about a year ago and it made it through half a piece of angle iron before getting tossed. I do have a Grizzly 14" band-saw that has been a champ. The only thing that's ever broke on it has been the plastic throat plate and that was my fault. I've not worked with metal much but am looking at a small and good milling machine for making and repairing tools. Perhaps milling an 80% lower receiver an some aluminum quad copter arms as well. If anyone has a recommendation I'd love to hear it. The most used tool I have is the home made CNC table. I use it for furniture, gift boxes, signs, plywood camping tables and lately for cutting out frames for multi-rotors. Good night.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 10, 2013 11:33 PM (SzAZ7)

823 Tyranny is still tyranny by any other name

Posted by: Mt Top Patriot at June 11, 2013 12:09 AM (DrjWB)

824 Morming 'rons & 'ettes. Daywalker that is early. Eastbound to East Texas, then north to Ontario for out annual trip to Canada. "then just think what weapons we might wield in the defense of liberty one or two centuries from now" Same as the military. Crossbows to pick off small patrols to grab their weapons ala Wolverines! Just takes longer.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 12:26 AM (bpzkI)

825 They were dumb as shit to leave all that equipment in a shooting space DURING E3 with no one there. (Giant Bomb)

Posted by: Zakn at June 11, 2013 01:10 AM (Bvf82)

826 God morning, world. Today we perhaps see the great glory of the Republican party in full flowering--- --making sure their business friends get dirt-cheap labor. I guess it's good to have friends. Though I admit I am confused. No businessman can get a GOPer into office by himself, and yet once in he seems to have him to himself. Oh well, fallen world and all. I'm sure those white Tea Party kids won't mind more folks entirely new to the nation being put ahead of them on the "wow, your skin color is special, you are special, much more than whitebread here" pile. Just remember to pay your taxes, son. We have to support these new immigrants, because they make America work, and you don't.

Posted by: Once more into the breach at June 11, 2013 02:05 AM (fBJt1)

827 Good morning, all. Boehner is surfacing on Good Morning America this morning, if anyone wants to check.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 11, 2013 02:19 AM (GoIUi)

828 And remember folks--the operating paradigm is now "the middle class will raise up the poor on its own backs. The poor bear less responsibility." Including the tens of millions we are going to import. And if the old middle class lifestyle the Boomers and Gen X enjoyed in their youths cannot be maintained, that is a small price to pay for being able to take part in this glorious transformation of America. Now go make a Hispanic illegal immigrant feel welcome, as penitence.

Posted by: Once more into the breach at June 11, 2013 02:20 AM (fBJt1)

829 820 Good morning, all. Boehner is surfacing on Good Morning America this morning, if anyone wants to check.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 11, 2013 06:19 AM (GoIUi)

I heard him deep throating NSA cock on the radio. They must have some serious shit on him.

Posted by: schizoid at June 11, 2013 02:38 AM (TjB5G)

830 #615

That applies both ways. Sony has announced $60 as the price for the controllers (and $60 for the camera{presumably in case of replacement need}, making it clear it does far less than the Kinect, so presumably needs a new generation of Move for motion oriented games) and that online multiplayer will require a PSN+ account.

As with ever console ever sold, the cost of entry is just the beginning.

We have two platforms with more similarities than differences. The Sony has more GPU cores while the Xbox has a much more substantial alternative input store and more extensive integration with multimedia. It'll be up to marketing folks to make the argument whether there is something spending $100 more for or not. OTOH, until there is a teardown of both systems with a professional estimate of their actual bill of materials, the question remains of how much of a hit Sony is taking per unit for that price point. Kinect represents a real cost but so does the transistor real estate for that GPU. So the actual cost of putting each on a store shelf is an interesting question.

If MS and Sony are both taking about the same hit per unit, different tactics will be required to promote the pro and con value claims. If MS is close to break even then they could drop the price before launch and still not feel much pain. Or try to make up the difference with promotional values such as software giveaways that have a much lower cost to them than the perceived retail value.

It takes me back to that day long ago when Sony and Sega both dropped their prices by $100 over the course of a single day at E3. Then Sega upped the ante by announcing the Saturn would be in stores immediately rather than a few months hence. I had a bunch of TRU store credit and was able to buy a Saturn on the way home from the LA Convention Center. It seemed like a very cool thing at the time but I get far less excited by launches nowadays.

Posted by: epobirs at June 11, 2013 04:19 AM (kcfmt)

831 My personal metadata indicates that I am a a bridge between my employer, family members, and Amazon.com. Am I in trouble? Oh, yeah, there's also AoSHQ and a handful of Tea Party groups. Guess I am in trouble.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, not a tax-exempt Hobbit at June 11, 2013 04:57 AM (42ZAm)

832 Only 3 felonies a day? Buncha pikers. I do twice that just sitting on my ass. I am a proud American tho so I try to go the extra mile on weekends. The Conservative/Libertarian motto should be: Gub'mint ain't the boss of me.

Posted by: Keapon Laffin at June 11, 2013 02:38 PM (Tgz0K)

833 Testing

Posted by: Brewer at June 13, 2013 09:03 AM (eV1I0)

834
Why isn't this italics

Posted by: Brewer at June 13, 2013 09:04 AM (eV1I0)

835 How about underline

Posted by: Brewer at June 13, 2013 09:04 AM (eV1I0)

836 <i> try this </i>

Posted by: Brewer at June 13, 2013 09:24 AM (eV1I0)

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