June 23, 2013
— Maetenloch
The Amnesty Bill Just Gets Better and Better
And by better I mean shittier. Reid is calling for a cloture vote tomorrow despite the last minute addition of the 1200-page Corker-Hoeven amendment. So we can be almost certain that no human being has actually read the complete bill that they're about to vote on.
Oh and don't expect any illegal to be deported after this bill is passed. Ever.
The bill is otherwise riddled with clauses that would help illegals avoid removal, get into the country to begin with, seek "provisional" status, apply for naturalization, ask stays of judgment, and game the system in general. One of the words appearing most often in the bill is "waiver," closely followed by "appeals," "stays," "reviews" and "exceptions" : A thicket of legalisms that could and undoubtedly would be used to thwart enforcement.
It's of course unlikely that a Spanish-speaking immigrant who walks across the border from Mexico would know anything of these legal complexities, but the drafters have foreseen that problem also. The bill sets up a fund, amounting to $50 million (with more money to be added as needed), to represent illegals in every phase of the process - seeking provisional immigration status, filing appeals, blocking efforts at deportation, obtaining naturalization, and so on.
And if you disagree with all this, then you're worse than Hitler you're rejecting Reagan's vision. At least according to Peter Wehner:
My second observation is that many of the most ferocious critics of immigration reform claim they are the sons and daughters of the Reagan Revolution, the true of heirs of Reagan. But they are-in both policy and tone-most un-Reagan like.As this post documents, Reagan himself not only signed legislation granting amnesty to three million illegal immigrants in exchange for relatively weak enforcement measures; he never demonized illegal immigrants. In 1977, for example, Reagan criticized "the illegal alien fuss" and said illegal aliens may "actually [be] doing work our own people won't do."
...Ronald Reagan's views on immigration, legal and illegal, were connected to a broader vision and conception of America. The fact is that this capacious, generous and hopeful outlook has been replaced by rhetoric that is, from some quarters at least, jagged edged and sends a signal to Hispanics: We don't really want you; and we don't much like you.
There are so many fallacies in Wehner's article that I'll just summarize the top 5.
- Opposing illegal immigration != opposing all immigration
- We've learned a lot the hard way in the 27 years since the 1986 amnesty - the 2013 Reagan would likely feel quite differently than the 1986 or 1977 Reagan
- There was A LOT more illegal immigration after the 1986 amnesty.
- Illegal immigration is low right now because of the economy - that won't last forever.
- Legalized illegal immigrants and their legal kin aren't going to vote for the GOP - didn't happen in 1986 and won't happen now.
And that's a good thing. Even their last cash cow, DVD sales, are being eaten up by streaming.
"The DVD business represented fifty percent of their profits," [20th Century Fox executive Peter Chernin] went on. "Fifty percent. The decline of that business means their entire profit could come down between forty and fifty percent for new movies."For those of you like me who are not good at math, let me make Peter's statement even simpler. If a studio's margin of profit was only 10 percent in the Old Abnormal, now with the collapsing DVD market that profit margin was hovering around 6 percent. The loss of profit on those little silver discs had nearly halved our profit margin.
...This was mind-boggling to me, and I've been in the business for thirty years. Peter continued as I absorbed the depths and roots of what I was starting to think of as the Great Contraction. "Which means if nothing else changed, they would all be losing money. That's how serious the DVD downturn is. At best, it could cut their profit in half for new movies."
Meanwhile Cracked sees the writing on the wall as well: 4 Ways Hollywood Is Completely Imploding
Why We're Better off Euthanizing Child Molesters
A registered sex offender, released from jail less than a month ago, has been arrested and charged with murder in the death of an 8-year-old Florida girl abducted while shopping with her mother on Friday night.
The body of Charish Perriwinkle was found in front of Highlands Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida on Saturday morning after a frantic search.
And the perp, Donald James Smith, has a long rap sheet full of child molestation. And these are just the things that we know he did.
Williams declined to answer reporters' questions about how Charish died or what Smith did in the hours between his disappearance with the girl and his arrest, saying that the investigation remains open.Smith has been a registered sex offender since a 1993 conviction in Duval County for attempted kidnapping and selling obscene materials.
Previous arrests that date as far back as 1977 when Department of Corrections records show he was convicted of indecent assault on a child under the age of 16.
Prison records also show that Smith went to prison again in 1992 for attempted kidnapping. Court documents show he was convicted of that charge in addition to two counts of showing obscene material to a minor.
Why One Cop Carries 145 Rounds of Ammo With Him Every Day
Sergeant Timothy Gramins fired 43 rounds at an assailant shooting at him and hit him 14 times with 6 shots in supposedly fatal locations. But the shooter just kept on coming.
[He heard an alert] that a male black driving a two-door white car had robbed a bank at gunpoint in another suburb 11 miles north and had fled... Unknown at the time, the suspect, a 37-year-old alleged Gangster Disciple, had vowed that he would kill a police officer if he got stopped....He was scarcely up to highway speed when he spotted a lone male black driver in a white Pontiac Bonneville and pulled alongside him. "He gave me 'the Look,' that oh-crap-there's-the-police look, and I knew he was the guy," Gramins said... The next thing he knew, bullets were flying. "That was four years ago," Gramins said. "Yet it could be ten seconds ago."
With Gramins following close behind, siren blaring and lights flashing, the Bonneville zigzagged through traffic and around corners into a quite pocket of single-family homes a few blocks from the exit. Then a few yards from where a 10-year-old boy was skateboarding on a driveway, the suspect abruptly squealed to a stop.
"He bailed out and ran headlong at me with a 9 mm Smith in his hand while I was still in my car," Gramins said.
Former Facebook Security Chief Now Works for NSA
Well I'm sure this will work out well.
In which a woman gets what she wanted and still complains about it.
Now, on the downslope of parenting, I have misgivings about my decision to stay home. While I don't know any parent who regrets time spent with their kids, especially kids who have moved on to their own lives - and I include myself among them - in hindsight, my decision seems flawed. Although I am fully aware that being a SAHM was certainly a luxury, staring at an empty nest and very diminished prospects of employment, I have real remorse.
Her regrets include:
I let down those [feminists] who went before me. In some cosmic way I feel that I let down a generation of women who made it possible to dream big,I used my driver's license far more than my degrees.I felt like I was shortchanging myself and those who educated, trained and believed in me by doing this.
My kids think I did nothing. They saw me cooking, cleaning, driving, volunteering and even writing, but they know what a "job" looks like and they don't think I had one.
I slipped into a more traditional marriage. In every way, my husband sees me as his equal, but in the years that I have been home, our partnership has developed a faint 1950's whiff.
So you had to make trade-offs, didn't get everything you ever wanted, and don't always get recognition for all your work? Well baby welcome to every single man's life.
What's It Like Being Nerve Gassed
Not fun. And somewhat similar to black widow bites which are also nerve agents.
Muscarinic effects from nerve agents include miosis [constriction of the pupils of the eyes], bradycardia [slowed heartbeat], diarrhea, nausea and vomiting, diaphoresis [excessive sweating], bronchial secretions [fluid in the lungs], and bronchial constriction [lung tightening]. A dimming of vision occurs with the miosis.Nicotinic effects include tachycardia [fast heartbeat] and muscle twitching which progresses to muscle paralysis. The toxidrome [poisoning syndrome] depends of the route of absorption. When dermally absorbed [through the skin] muscle twitching occurs first. With inhalation exposure, breathing difficulties are seen first.
The onset of symptoms with inhalation exposure is within 5 minutes.
Steve Martin Touring with Edie Brickell
They released an album together this April.
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The group. Yeah.
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Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 23, 2013 06:14 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 06:15 PM (Vk2pI)
Best was from Dana Loesch ...
Dana Loesch @DLoesch 4m
Wallenda's next walk should be across my dining room floor which is usually covered in Legos
Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 06:15 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 23, 2013 06:16 PM (4Mv1T)
Wallenda's next walk should be across my dining room floor which is usually covered in Legos
LOL. Wish I had kept all the legos I bought.
Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 06:17 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:18 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: navybrat at June 23, 2013 06:18 PM (L12M0)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 23, 2013 06:18 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: huerfano at June 23, 2013 06:19 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:19 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 23, 2013 06:20 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at June 23, 2013 06:20 PM (Vk2pI)
...Ronald Reagan's views on immigration, legal and illegal, were connected to a broader vision and conception of America.
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Actually, first and foremost, Reagan was a Cold Warrior. We needed to open up a steam valve for the burgeoning Marxist movement in Latin America - permitting some of Mexico's poorest legal status in the United States was part of Reagan's Cold War strategy (and to a great extent, a countermeasure against the Soviet strategy which would have been elated to have a Communist state on the contiguous Southern border of the United States). In effect, keeping Mexico from going Communist (there was a significant Soviet and Cuban - I repeat myself - presence in Mexico) was the mirror version of what Reagan was able to do with the Solidarity movement throughWalesa in Poland, a neighboring state to the U.S.S.R.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 23, 2013 06:20 PM (Nfpnr)
Posted by: EveR at June 23, 2013 06:21 PM (nyKhh)
Watched JACK REACHER last night. Then I went back to re-read Ace's critique back in May. I could've sworn Ace (or someone else) said Cruise was a bad choice because Reacher is described as tall.
Anyway, I liked the movie. It was crisp and clean. The only thing is that it should be re-titled:
SINGLE FEMALE LAWYER WITH LOVELY BREASTS MEETS JACK REACHER
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 06:21 PM (Ba6aP)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 23, 2013 06:21 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:22 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 23, 2013 06:23 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 23, 2013 06:23 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 06:23 PM (8FeS+)
Reagan got that he screwed the pooch in '86...
you can't have open borders, a nation, and a a welfare state....pick any two of the three
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:24 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at June 23, 2013 06:24 PM (VePXc)
Serial predators/pedophiles : and I can't say this strongly enough, need to be put up against the wall and summarily shot.
Screw their 'rights', they proved they didn't give a damn about their victims rights, repeatedly.
Posted by: Gmac - at June 23, 2013 06:25 PM (IanLz)
Posted by: joncelli at June 23, 2013 06:25 PM (vh67+)
We all have our crosses to bear Sooth...
do pick up my slack next week....
I'll be on the road again
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:25 PM (LRFds)
Had to laugh at this--scattered clouds here so seeing the Moon is iffy, a couple minutes ago I stepped out the back garage door and saw it clearly. Didn't turn on any lights so after a moment I looked down, and there is a skunk about 2 feet away, looking up at me.
Wished him well, and quickly shut the door. That could have turned out badly.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 23, 2013 06:26 PM (SAMxH)
Peter Wehner is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Previously he worked in the administrations of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush. In the last of which, he served as deputy assistant to the president.
Oh, a Bush Republican. How shocking.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 23, 2013 06:26 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 23, 2013 06:26 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Roman Polanski at June 23, 2013 06:26 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at June 23, 2013 06:27 PM (jucos)
CAC and I are in a race to be most disjointed it seems.
Heh....
In my defense I think this week more often than not I was at least somewhat lucid and something less than "needs a flash gordon decoder ring" in syntax and verbiage.
YMMV
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:27 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 06:27 PM (8FeS+)
Former Facebook Security Chief Works for NSA
http://tinyurl.com/mzcr692
Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 06:27 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 23, 2013 06:28 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:29 PM (jjvz+)
Here's something else that's going to tick you off next week. When Mandela goes toes up you know Obama is going to order US flags lowered to half-staff.
So the Soviet supported commie "freedom fighter" will be honored while Thatcher, the most important ally in half a century, was not.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 23, 2013 06:29 PM (kdS6q)
That's true, but sort of a microcosm of Congress say circa 1997-2005.
The talent is spoiled on wage scale, the audience is alienated to a large degree and the client base feels entitled to try to game a corrupt system...
all the ingredients for Whore E Wood's version of 2008 to present coming right up.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:29 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:30 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at June 23, 2013 06:30 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: lowandslow at June 23, 2013 06:30 PM (Fz2C7)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 06:30 PM (Vk2pI)
I welcome it....
remind the graying cold war era people who he and his are...
they *hate* us and by *us* I mean *all* of us....
ask Paula Deen
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:30 PM (LRFds)
Twitter bombs.
Each day we choose someone to bombard with our scathing and pithy disapproval.
The key, since we're such small numbers, is to concentrate our efforts.
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 06:30 PM (39q3n)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 06:31 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:32 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: mpfs, Black Mountain NC at June 23, 2013 06:32 PM (muZTT)
It is "shocking" and part of why I went on my earlier in the life of the HQ rants about Goggle and Farcebook...
of course one thing of beauty is under Plan B you *may* get more access to their network map.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:32 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 23, 2013 06:32 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 06:32 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 23, 2013 10:26 PM (kdS6q)
Every time I see somebody saying that Reagan would be regarded as somebody too liberal for the Tea Party, it comes from a Bush worshiper who helped undo every fucking thing that Reagan stood for. Those cocksuckers hated Reagan and everything he stood for, and all deserve to be locked in a burning building.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 23, 2013 06:32 PM (l4tS8)
Posted by: "Chess Master 3000" at June 23, 2013 06:32 PM (CCJVE)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 23, 2013 06:33 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2013 06:33 PM (zPVBH)
all kidding aside I'd suggest at least two spares depending on your clothing lines.
The articles on stopping power are likely more correct than not. Far better to have spare kinetic behavior modifiers than not enough.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:34 PM (LRFds)
That won't do any good here.
But the House might matter. Jared Polis might be a Leftist, but he represents a tech-heavy district. And techies hate the H1B system. I suspect that I've been tossed out of a job myself because of it.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 23, 2013 06:34 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 06:34 PM (CA2NO)
SHHHH, that's the "real" books we keep for us, not the "official" books we show to the IRS and politicians we beg for tax breaks
Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at June 23, 2013 06:34 PM (/9IC1)
At the very least, we can become a nuisance to our political enemies.
In other words, let's make them work. Let's make them ban us from Twitter -- all one thousand of us. Heh.
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 06:34 PM (1WM2H)
Posted by: Jmel at June 23, 2013 06:35 PM (9tSXa)
I didn't.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 23, 2013 06:35 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 23, 2013 06:35 PM (XIxXP)
Any sane conservative would have found the alternative to Romney unthinkable.
If you are a conservative and refused to vote AT ALL. then just shut up and go sit down.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 23, 2013 06:36 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 23, 2013 06:36 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 06:36 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 23, 2013 06:36 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: ALH at June 23, 2013 06:37 PM (2LTPq)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 23, 2013 06:37 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Iblis at June 23, 2013 06:37 PM (Yd7xL)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2013 06:37 PM (AmWlQ)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2013 06:37 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 23, 2013 06:37 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 06:37 PM (jE38p)
As long as I don't open that movie, I won't buy another. So far it's working anyhow.
Sorry about that, Hollyweird.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2013 06:38 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:38 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: Mindy at June 23, 2013 06:38 PM (J1Hl8)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2013 06:38 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: EC at June 23, 2013 06:38 PM (doBIb)
Proud to report that I booed the trailer last time I was at the movies.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 23, 2013 06:39 PM (QTHTd)
Oooo - Drew throwing down:
DrewM @DrewMTips
I would have voted for Hillary over McCain in 08. I will vote for Hillary (or 3rd party) over Rubio if it comes to that in 16.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 23, 2013 06:39 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:39 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 06:39 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:39 PM (jjvz+)
I'm a conservative, I always vote Sean.
If John Boehner passes amnesty I intend to use my vote in a new way.
End of story the GOP has gotten their last "but commie, COMMIE!" out of me...
I spent the last three days remembering precisely how much I hated John McCain and how hard I fought for him.
They want my vote they can earn it, elseways let's speed things up.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:40 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 23, 2013 06:40 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:40 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:40 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Die Politieke Hoed at June 23, 2013 06:40 PM (Vk2pI)
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Gee, I could throw a rock and hit Black Mountain.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 06:40 PM (aDwsi)
There was that Palin thing, though. That changed the game.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 23, 2013 06:41 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2013 06:41 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:42 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: mpfs, Black Mountain
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Believe it or not, I have sailed on Lake Tomahawk.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 06:42 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 06:42 PM (CMlD4)
Saw Transformers III with my son and the dang robot/alien Optimus Prime spoke more eloquently about freedom than our current president. Seriously.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 23, 2013 06:42 PM (AmWlQ)
Yeah disjointed ain't it...?
I mean I'm sorry I hate both men but I simply cannot believe Graham or McCain is seriously THIS fucking retarded....ergo they're bought or in on the gag but either way they are enemies of working class Americans.
I'm blessed enough to have risen out of working poverty using drive and the path Reagan and Milton Friedman sold me on....
I have no fucking idea what McCain thinks economically other than "Cindy's beer money is chinga bueno!"
Yeah?
Fuck you McCain
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:42 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:42 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 23, 2013 06:43 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 23, 2013 06:43 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 06:43 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:43 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:43 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 06:44 PM (CMlD4)
No it is rapid delivery of the poison they are selling....
Democrats who crossed over in the Bush era like free shit and are using us to keep Donk attacks on gun rights in check.....
that's just about it...
like I said to a contact who fits that profile.....
"what guns?"
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:44 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 06:44 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2013 06:44 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:44 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:44 PM (jjvz+)
The MSM will bleep that out faster than if he said "Holy fucking shit, that's a long motherfucking drop! SHIT!!"
Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 06:45 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 06:45 PM (AO9UG)
Sean were the GOP a "smart party" we'd buy the Mexicans and if need be turn the private unions against the PEUs...
we are *not* a smart party....
If the GOP stabs my brother and sister in the back I am nuking it as long as needed.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:45 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:45 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:46 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at June 23, 2013 06:46 PM (I2uSp)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 23, 2013 06:46 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:46 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:46 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:47 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 23, 2013 06:47 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: Chuck. Schumer at June 23, 2013 06:47 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 23, 2013 06:47 PM (XIxXP)
Can't, OSP for the stated reason. Now, if I happened to find it on Netflix streaming then I could watch it.
That is my one expenditure that benefits Hollywood in any way.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2013 06:47 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2013 06:47 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: navybrat at June 23, 2013 06:47 PM (L12M0)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:48 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 06:48 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: rtw at June 23, 2013 06:48 PM (6zfQZ)
If this were '04 I'd agree...
the economic timebomb and mule domination of the institutions means we're out of time....
They do this let's speed things up...
for God's sakes they are in exempting Illegals from Bambicare incentivizing the hiring of illegals over natives by at least 3 grand assuming they don't give tax credits to the companies...
no sorry the GOP aided in this shit....
screwing our unemployed....
pass it to find out what is in my heart GOP
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:48 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:49 PM (mIGXo)
(Which is probably why I'm not invited.)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 06:49 PM (CMlD4)
There was that Palin thing, though. That changed the game.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo
Agreed. Palin got me to vote for Mccain, with the expectation of his dying in office.
If it was Hillary, she would have chosen Obama as VP. So Mccain/Palin vs Hillary/Obama. Closer call, but probably still have to vote R for the same reasons.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 23, 2013 06:49 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 23, 2013 06:49 PM (JMmQ9)
I dont have a problem with that.
I have a problem with people who do nothing and bitch anyway. Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 10:48 PM
I have a problem with politicians who keep pissing on my leg and tell me it's raining
Then they robocall me and spam me for more beer money
Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 06:50 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:50 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Walter at June 23, 2013 06:50 PM (AzwZn)
We have (in my local district) our own problems candidate wise this year. There is a conservative Pub running for the first time, and the power structure doesn't approve. He espouses too many of the Tea Party positions.
Not a good old boy, so the support is really soft from the Party bosses. But we will see if he can't upset things regardless. Because here at this level is where it all begins.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 23, 2013 06:50 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:50 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 06:51 PM (AO9UG)
That explains why the moon was so damn bright the other night. I live in DC and it was very noticable, even with all the city lights.
Posted by: puddleglum - RIP Allan Simonsen at June 23, 2013 06:51 PM (iLP9v)
Yeah, I'm sure Carl Levin and / or Lil' Debbie Stabenaw will answer my call...
This is where I stand on the dining room table and Screed about repealing the 17th Amendment... Posted by: AltonJackson at June 23, 2013 10:49 PM
Rubio is one of my senators. I doubt he's going to be swayed at this point
Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 06:51 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:51 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: navybrat
Yep, just took cheap non-linear editing and effect to catchup to garageband
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 06:51 PM (CMlD4)
Children are brutalized by our criminal court system that lets these monsters back out. May God bless this little girl.
Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2013 06:52 PM (EAgmr)
wonderful he's reloading his fucking walking around money to buy 2016...
and of course narry a fucking peep form the Gangbang D' Ocho....
dear God in heaven...
"no"
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:52 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:52 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 06:52 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 23, 2013 06:52 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: alexthechick -Team SMOD at June 23, 2013 06:53 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:53 PM (mIGXo)
If you are a conservative and refused to vote AT ALL. then just shut up and go sit down.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 23, 2013 10:36 PM (SAMxH)
Yep. I've never understood why some people seem to regard not voting at all as a sign of superior principles.
Look - an election is just a choice between the choices you're given based on the information you have at the moment. It's not a permanent commitment nor a perpetual oath of fealty.
Plus people died to guarantee that you would have the opportunity to choose.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 06:53 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: Walter at June 23, 2013 06:53 PM (AzwZn)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:54 PM (zDvWE)
I'll be in SC still voting in Ohio.
Lindsay Graham is my project....
I will volunteer for his opponent and donate.
First in the GOP primary if it happens and if the primary fails I will canvas for his democrat foe.
The McCain gang is done.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:54 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:54 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:55 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:55 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 10:42 PM (mIGXo)
Do tell! I'd like to know who I will be working for.
Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 06:56 PM (SkhKv)
If people didn't bitch about a problem they didn't help try to solve, it'd be a very quiet world.
I dont have a problem with that.
I have a problem with people who do nothing and bitch anyway.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 10:48 PM
I have a problem with politicians who keep pissing on my leg and tell me it's raining
Then they robocall me and spam me for more beer money
Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 10:50 PM (/9IC1)
This.
This, this, this, this, this, this, THIS!!!
I contributed a bit into 2010 where I thought it might do some good -- sometimes very little spread across a lot of places. Many of those retards spent all my money and then some robocalling me and sending me further fundraising letters. Hellooooo!?!? If I sent you $10, it wasn't for 35 fundraising letters!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 06:56 PM (T1005)
The Friend of My Enemy is NOT My Friend
Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 06:56 PM (/9IC1)
I personally don't know how I'll react in 2014, let alone 2016 at this point. I DO know I'm sick unto death of the status quo.
I've voted Libertarian in the past a few times, and that's my most likely fall back position. But there's a lot of road to travel yet. Maybe something good will come out of all this mess, and I can find real hope again.
But I doubt it.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2013 06:57 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 06:57 PM (AO9UG)
It wasn't the Dems who first described Reaganomics as "voodoo economics". That's all on Poppy Bush.Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2013 06:57 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:57 PM (zDvWE)
My uncle Joseph did not die at Anzio so Juan McCain could try to screw his great great nieces and nephews from employability Maet...
THAT is where my "plan B" comes from.
I hate democrats with a rage....but I understand they are my enemy their job is to hurt me and mine.
I cannot adequately express my rage at a party I have given my life to, my wealth in good times and bad, and my prayers aiding Charles Schumer in "Make a Wish for Barack Obama and the DNC."
so yeah I'll vote....
and being that I will have registered democrat I'm sure I'll vote 2 or 3 times whether *I* do or not...
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 06:57 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:58 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 06:58 PM (jIaZt)
If that's the case, then I guess I'm OK with it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2013 06:58 PM (fNpC1)
Posted by: AltonJackson (repeal the 17th Amendment) at June 23, 2013 06:58 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 06:58 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 06:59 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: joncelli at June 23, 2013 07:00 PM (vh67+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:00 PM (mIGXo)
Plus people died to guarantee that you would have the opportunity to choose.
Posted by: Mætenloch
Unfortunately, for many of us we don't have a choice of who but just of whether.
Blue state without a credible opposition party, Top two primary system with Dem vs Dem in the fall election. Can't even cast a protest vote.
Heck, the leader of the California Republican party is actually donating to Democrats. Not much you can do in that situation.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 23, 2013 07:00 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:00 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2013 10:51 PM
At least you have "Hope". We're eatin' dirt and grass here...Levin and Lil' Debbie aren't going to lift a finger...
Posted by: AltonJackson (repeal the 17th Amendment) at June 23, 2013 10:58 PM (JMmQ9)
Ahem. Boxer and Feinstein over here.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 07:00 PM (T1005)
No contributions to the party from here on out. Individual candidates, sure.
But keep in mind, it all devolves to the local and state level. Unless that is locked tight, it won't be repairable.
This will be OUR long march through the institutions.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 23, 2013 07:01 PM (SAMxH)
You do comprehend that you just completely destroyed your own position, correct?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:01 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:01 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 07:02 PM (AO9UG)
She is, in person, EXACTLY like she is here. There's no "internet Alex" vs "IRL Alex". Her online persona is accurate.
Good to know who I will be cooking for. Need to get my books in order.
Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 07:02 PM (SkhKv)
Plus people died to guarantee that you would have the opportunity to choose.
Posted by: Mætenloch
Unfortunately, for many of us we don't have a choice of who but just of whether.
Blue state without a credible opposition party, Top two primary system with Dem vs Dem in the fall election. Can't even cast a protest vote.
Heck, the leader of the California Republican party is actually donating to Democrats. Not much you can do in that situation.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 23, 2013 11:00 PM (kdS6q)
Hmmmm....."Not much you can do in that situation." "Not much you can do in that situation." "Not much you can do in that situation.".....
I'm thinking, myself, "MOVE!!!!!!"
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 07:02 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:03 PM (mIGXo)
Alrighty, with the success of NoVaMoMee, we need to do a Colorado Moron Meetup. Who's up for it?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 07:03 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 07:04 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:04 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:04 PM (zDvWE)
Look, I take your and Maet's point, but those of you espousing such a view seem utterly unwilling to comprehend that those of us on the other side have equally strong, if not stronger, arguments as to why we will no longer lock step pull the R lever because Democrats.
Frankly, we are well past the point of boring argument being boring. You can say nothing that I will find persuasive to demand that I vote for the less evil option in every election. I can say nothing that you will find persuasive that I will no longer be an active participant in the tearing down of my principles.
Can we go back to discussing tits now?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:05 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:05 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 07:05 PM (0n1+D)
No contributions to the party from here on out. Individual candidates, sure.
But keep in mind, it all devolves to the local and state level. Unless that is locked tight, it won't be repairable.
This will be OUR long march through the institutions.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 23, 2013 11:01 PM (SAMxH)
That's what I was thinking....for results, see @176. Mind you, I'm sending a small amount from several states away.....so why not send me a bunch of "what I've done for local communities" bullshit and requests for several times what I gave already? Until you've totally pissed-away my total contribution without laying a glove on your scumbag opponent? That sounds logical, right?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 07:05 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 23, 2013 07:05 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: AltonJackson (repeal the 17th Amendment) at June 23, 2013 07:05 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Sean Bannion
Are just going to schedule an cab to bring you home from Old Town every night now.
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:06 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:06 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 07:06 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 07:07 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: irongrampa at June 23, 2013 11:01 PM
Where do I sign up for the short, radical version where we destroy the institutions?
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:07 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:07 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 11:03 PM (lr3d7)
I'm up for it. So is Cheri. We were talking about it in the last thread about a GJ meet up.
Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 07:07 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 07:07 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:08 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:08 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 23, 2013 07:08 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:08 PM (CMlD4)
And howdy y'all. Sorry I dropped out of the earlier thread, but some people, ie: tweakers, dropped by asking about buying the land across from me and I kind of sorta had to lie about how much everything cost to do utility wise. My 9yr old was outside and I had to get her in a check a certain something before I went out.
So NDH, have plans solidified about tomorrows event? I'll be calling Cornhol oops I mean Cornyn and Stockman tomorrow and I'll do my part on teh twitters, anything else a broke assed east Texan can do?
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at June 23, 2013 07:09 PM (MnSla)
Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2013 07:09 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 07:09 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:09 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 11:04 PM (AO9UG)
Well if there is no moral difference, then why not drag your ass to the polls and choose the lesser of evils? Because they're both the same right?
At least voting is doing something. I respect those who try - those who sit at home with their precious unsullied principles not so much.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 07:09 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: AltonJackson (repeal the 17th Amendment) at June 23, 2013 07:09 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:10 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 07:10 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: Big Ben at June 23, 2013 07:10 PM (I5Htn)
I'm up for it. So is Cheri. We were talking about it in the last thread about a GJ meet up.
GJ might be possible, but it's a bit of a drive for myself and a lot of the Eastern Slope morons. Glenwood Springs, perhaps?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 07:10 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: The Electoral Hat at June 23, 2013 07:10 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 07:11 PM (0n1+D)
On amnesty study up on "how to field dress ?' Since hossenfeffer stew may be part of the Galt gulch diet.
Posted by: McGregor at June 23, 2013 07:11 PM (qo244)
I know, it's a rhetorical question.
Posted by: Craig Poe at June 23, 2013 07:11 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:11 PM (mIGXo)
I thought Buckley's rule had more to do with the primaries and directed us to vote for the most electable Republican?
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 07:11 PM (KeJAW)
Pink or brown? Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 11:07 PM (zDvWE)
Look, I am an open, accepting and caring person, who is welcoming of the glorious diversity of the female form.
She is, in person, EXACTLY like she is here. There's no "internet Alex" vs "IRL Alex". Her online persona is accurate. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 10:58 PM (mIGXo)
To be fair, I did warn all y'all in advance that I do talk like this in real life.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:12 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 07:12 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2013 07:12 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:13 PM (CMlD4)
Story up in the UK Daily Mail (natch).
Posted by: navybrat at June 23, 2013 07:13 PM (L12M0)
The current GOP crop lacks the will to back us in what it will take.
At the state and local level thus far sans amnesty we're doing fine and actually better than fine. Obama is being held afloat in part by GOP governance's success in the red states financially. A perverse byproduct of the GOP grassroots effectiveness.
Had I faith that the feds would not undermine the Texas model that Allen G and I have discussed at length I'd be aboard amnesty to a degree, flipped the new immigrants would be an asset if mated with Red State governance the crisis is Obama willfully undermining the national economy with his continued attacks on the energy sector and his regulatory fiat coupled with as it turns out another pop of "spend as much as you want Barry! Ogabenomics"
The state and local GOP is empowering the McCain gang to fuck us every time.
Enough...let the donks try to undermine the Bill of Rights openly and emboldened it'll drive people to the new party or a revitalized and younger GOP after we chop out the rotten wood....
They try to outlaw guns...I am sincere when I say "I will not comply" as are a bunch of union democrat hunting voters....
they will be driven to us....
the GOP runs roughshod over my desired policies and empowers the left precisely because it is content to be reduced to a pressure valve on donkey overreach.
If John McCain is the answer I am asking stupid questions.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 07:13 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:13 PM (zDvWE)
My rule is simple: I vote for the most electable Republican who has never once sided against me with the Democrats.
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 07:13 PM (vyPsz)
We've GOT to burn up the phone lines tomorrow! My senator's a squish who only recently supported the bill (because of Corker/Hoeven) so I'm calling him tomorrow -- again. No, no, NO!!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at June 23, 2013 07:13 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:13 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 07:14 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Mindy at June 23, 2013 07:14 PM (J1Hl8)
Here's something else that's going to tick you off next week. When Mandela goes toes up you know Obama is going to order US flags lowered to half-staff.
So the Soviet supported commie "freedom fighter" will be honored while Thatcher, the most important ally in half a century, was not.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
Our Post-American Transnational President would do this?? No way. sarc off
Posted by: puddleglum - RIP Allan Simonsen at June 23, 2013 07:14 PM (iLP9v)
Isn't NOT voting a principled stance when the outcome is rigged?
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2013 07:15 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:15 PM (zDvWE)
Posted by: Psychedelicat at June 23, 2013 07:15 PM (Vk2pI)
TPH. KKK, Japanese school girls, and tentacle horrors? Oh wait, the tentacles might be beyond believable...
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:16 PM (wPxCh)
Funny you should mention Glenwood Springs. We're going to be there this week for a concert.
I saw that. I sent a note to my mother that she should check you guys out if she gets a chance.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 07:16 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: mpfs, Black Mountain NC at June 23, 2013 07:16 PM (muZTT)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:16 PM (jIaZt)
If I lived in Texas in 2010 and it was between Dewhurst and Cruz, the choice is simple. Dewhurst was a compassionate compromiser, Cruz was not.
If I lived in SC and it was between Graham and Sanford, I would choose Sanford without hesitation. Sanford never once took sides against me; Graham repeatedly joins the Democrats and plots against me.
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 07:16 PM (DlaLh)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 07:16 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 11:05 PM (Gk3SS)
go on.
Posted by: rich@gmu at June 23, 2013 07:17 PM (mL5a6)
It's time for everyone to reflect on a new set of questions.
They're personal....
I am a conservative not a "Republican"
I am a capitalist not a corporatist
I am a limited government small l libertarian
Not someone who wants to enable the micromanaging of every asperct of our lives.
If my vote is in the end simply enabling McCain and gang to cut better deals in empowering Schumer's agenda it is even more wasted than if I register democrat and call my shots because inside the democrat party I can at least damage the more overtly Marxist lunatic fringe and cause chaos in their ranks rather than trying to contain ours.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 07:17 PM (LRFds)
At least voting is doing something. I respect those who try - those who sit at home with their precious unsullied principles not so much.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 11:09 PM (XkotV)
Because I have no respect, at all, for the proposition that I must be an active participant in the destruction of my principles. Not only that, but, quite bluntly, I find it completely appalling to be told that I must do so.
See re: there is nothing either side can say to persuade the other. Not a single damn thing.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:17 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Kreplach at June 23, 2013 07:17 PM (zOP5o)
That's what I was saying. I may have said it poorly. Brain's a little fried.
I have the suspicion that he tried every scotch, bourbon, rye that was mentioned in last nights whiskey thread.
Posted by: harleycowboy at June 23, 2013 07:17 PM (+9AX9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:17 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:18 PM (DUewJ)
Quite....
as it stands if Sanford ran against John McCain's manwife I'd back him....
and if Alvin Greene is the only person to atatck Graham with I'll use him.
Time to cull the RINOs
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 07:18 PM (LRFds)
If I lived in MD in 2010, I would without a doubt choose O'Donnell over Castle.
Castle, if in the Senate today, would vote with the Democrats on everything.
Miller was the right choice in AK. Buck was the right choice. And Angle was the right choice, (don't believe me? look at Heller's actions of late).
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 07:19 PM (DlaLh)
Based on your last meet up performance you guys will quit by the third inning.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 11:15 PM (zDvWE)
Yeah but it will be a marvelous 3 innings! Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 11:16 PM (jE38p)
Does putting me in to bat equate to when what'shisface sent in the midget that one time in an MLB game?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:19 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 07:19 PM (8FeS+)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/selection-du-weekend-41-22.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:19 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2013 07:20 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:20 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Big Ben at June 23, 2013 07:20 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 07:20 PM (SkhKv)
TPH. KKK, Japanese school girls, and tentacle horrors? Oh wait, the tentacles might be beyond believable...
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 11:16 PM (wPxCh)
I believe! I do, I do, I do!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 07:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2013 07:20 PM (fNpC1)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:20 PM (mIGXo)
Your vote for any candidate negates one vote for the opposition candidate. Makes it just like an opposition voter stayed home.
The only time your vote doesn't matter is when your candidate already has the win.
Posted by: Enby at June 23, 2013 07:21 PM (jC3qa)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:21 PM (DUewJ)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 07:21 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 07:21 PM (jE38p)
Posted by: Big Ben at June 23, 2013 07:21 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 23, 2013 07:22 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:22 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:22 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2013 11:15 PM (ccXZP)
Do you believe our system is rigged in the same way as the Iranian elections?
Because if so, then we really don't have enough common ground to go any further on this topic.
Our system doesn't guarantee that you'll get to vote for your ideal candidate - you just get to choose among the ones who are running. And the barriers to running for office are pretty low here as a glance down the ballot will demonstrate.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 07:22 PM (XkotV)
Or how about Australia, where voting is mandatory. Is that a better method?
No. Voting should be open for anyone who wants it, but there still needs to be some cost so that people respect the act of voting and their decision with seriousness.
For example, voting rights come with the responsibility to sit on juries as well as a lifetime ban on receiving individual government benefits.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 07:22 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 23, 2013 07:23 PM (jE38p)
At least you could get on the stool.
Hand to God, I got up yesterday, was all wtf ow my back, looked in the mirror and, yup, tore off a strip of skin when I hopped off the stool and the edge of the seat caught my back.
Panther. Like. Reflexes.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:23 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 23, 2013 07:24 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:24 PM (DUewJ)
It would be a big handout to the post office, but some union guys are going to get the love in any scenario.
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:24 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: political correctness czar at June 23, 2013 07:24 PM (Q2Ne0)
Glenwood would be fun. The Hotel Colorado? The hippie dips are a short walk and it's like free hot springs.
Possibly. Carbondale Mountain Fair is July 26-28, so that might be a possible alternative meetup.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 07:24 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 07:24 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mindy at June 23, 2013 07:25 PM (J1Hl8)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:25 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 07:25 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:26 PM (wPxCh)
So what we have is the Republicans' consultants have crunched the numbers and have the Republicans believing they are better off, politically, granting Amnesty.
They either a) know things we don't know, or b) are really stupid, or c) are working as double agents.
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 07:26 PM (NLH1M)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:26 PM (DUewJ)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 23, 2013 07:26 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:27 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: Little Johnny Boehner at June 23, 2013 07:27 PM (Vk2pI)
It ain't gonna make you forget the Christopher Reeve version.
Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 11:24 PM (MMC8r)
How about the George Reeves version?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 23, 2013 07:27 PM (FIgyg)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:27 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at June 23, 2013 07:27 PM (MnSla)
You know I'm serious about politics Maet.
The last two elections have tested my faith in the integrity of our system to the core.
Axelturf openly bragging of spigot cities, Steffy Cutter bragging about going conan on enemies, the IRS games....
no I don't think that is 100% why Bark won, had the working poor and some of the elderly turned out in force we'd have won....
I do think they are perfecting the Chicago Fraud wagon on an ever increasing scale.....
and I know that the McCain gang is dying to help make it so they'll barely need the Chicago machine...
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 07:27 PM (LRFds)
Btw, how bout that bartender? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 11:25 PM (mIGXo)
I may, possibly, have noticed said bartender. Tiny bit.
You missed the amazing ass I mean woman playing that curling type game. That's right, sweetheart, bend over a liiiiiitle bit more to reach, c'mon, it'll help you line up your shot.
Let's just say I was glued to that spot on the couch not so much because of the double fisted drinking. I mean, sure, partly, but not mostly.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:27 PM (Gk3SS)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/selection-du-weekend-41-40.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:28 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:28 PM (mIGXo)
See re: there is nothing either side can say to persuade the other. Not a single damn thing.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 11:17 PM (Gk3SS)
Wait - voting for any candidate in an election makes you an active participant in the destruction of your principles?
Um did my crazy pills just kick in? Because that's just insane.
And no I did not say you are required to vote. I just said that I don't have much respect for those who don't because of principles.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 07:28 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 11:25 PM (0n1+D)
It was the sexy jacket, you weren't letting him get far
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:29 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:29 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:30 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 23, 2013 07:30 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:31 PM (DUewJ)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:31 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:32 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: AltonJackson (repeal the 17th Amendment) at June 23, 2013 07:32 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:33 PM (mIGXo)
Winnie says neigh.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 23, 2013 07:33 PM (FIgyg)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:33 PM (DUewJ)
So if I am structurally and COMPLETELY against state intervention and control of medical coverage and care and find the compulsion of commerce through the tax code horrifying which candidate precisely was I to vote for to express my principles Maet?
I donated heavily, had the restraint to see I could not in good conscience canvas because I was so addled and hyper and would have hurt Romney's appeal....
I drove 2.5 hours to my home precinct and I was undermined by the campaign getting cute and trying to win Ohio with mostly "me too!" instead of...
"why the hell are you letting TFG hurt Coal, tax you more for subpar care, and claim credit for "saving GM when the reality is your jobs are mostly in Russia now?"
Yeah no...I gave my usual GOP try but 2d time in a row it felt like the Donk Lite wing of the party got to run into a wall with a flawed candidate.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 07:33 PM (LRFds)
No Maet, I was bringing out examples of extreme cases to show that not voting, or even voting for the other side, could be principled.
I understand and appreciate your stance, and it has been my stance for my entire life up to this point. But the times, they ARE extreme now.
I'm just saying I don't want to judge anyone struggling to find a way forward for their own consciences.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2013 07:33 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 07:33 PM (0n1+D)
Um did my crazy pills just kick in? Because that's just insane.
And no I did not say you are required to vote. I just said that I don't have much respect for those who don't because of principles.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 11:28 PM (XkotV)
Okay, you have my apologies, because I most certainly interpreted your post about how people died to give us the right to vote and your various following up posts, especially how you have no respect for those who do not vote because principles, as requiring a vote for a candidate in every election. If I missed where you clarified that is not your position, my apologies.
My position is that I will vote for those candidates who earn my vote, which actually has a fairly wide latitude, but that I will not pull the lever for someone solely because s/he is the less of two evils. Please note that your various posts stated that you have no respect for me if I refuse to do so, thus the creation of my confusion.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:33 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:34 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:34 PM (mIGXo)
Its a tough thing when you realize that...
Voting for the lesser of two evils... is still voting for evil...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 07:35 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:35 PM (jIaZt)
I think Gabe and I were discussing the Hottie in the Orange shirt and trying to determine if he was gay or not...
I thought he was, Gabe said no, Gabe was right. Go figure. Posted by: spypeach
If his wife lets him, he is going to drop by as Capt Orange
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:35 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 23, 2013 07:35 PM (9+vDU)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:35 PM (DUewJ)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at June 23, 2013 07:35 PM (MnSla)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:36 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:36 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:36 PM (DUewJ)
Is this her?
http://tinyurl.com/k5rqx99
Posted by: McGregor at June 23, 2013 07:37 PM (qo244)
I think Gabe and I were discussing the Hottie in the Orange shirt and trying to determine if he was gay or not...
I thought he was, Gabe said no, Gabe was right. Go figure. Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 11:33 PM (0n1+D)
Hottie in Orange shirt was straight.
*does prance of it being awesome to be me*
Btw, surprise of the night....HoboJerky.
I am still weeping over the description of Johnny Carson as that guy who put that thing on his head and then there was an envelope.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:37 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 07:37 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:37 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:37 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Mindy at June 23, 2013 07:37 PM (J1Hl8)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 23, 2013 07:38 PM (SkyIE)
Um did my crazy pills just kick in? Because that's just insane.
And no I did not say you are required to vote. I just said that I don't have much respect for those who don't because principles and all.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 11:28 PM (XkotV)
Doesn't mean jackshit when the guy you vote for ditches his principles the moment he gets elected. Why should we vote for that? Why should we have any trust in that we are voting for the "Least Worst" candidate when its becoming very apparent that they are actually "Equally Worse But Lying." You are demanding that we run out to the flock for the 40th cry of "WOLF!" in the same day.
Posted by: buzzion at June 23, 2013 07:38 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:38 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 07:38 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 23, 2013 07:39 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 07:39 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:39 PM (mIGXo)
From Hell's heart, I stab at thee.
Though there was some well played and excellent sucking up when I was told I was lying when I mentioned that I will be, um, not 32 next month.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:40 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 07:40 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:40 PM (DUewJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:41 PM (mIGXo)
He's a MECEP. Which means he's a bad ass, squared away USMC NCO - so good that the Corps decided to sheepdip him in college and make him an officer. I don't know about pretty, his wife was cranky though.
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:41 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 07:42 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:42 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:43 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Mindy at June 23, 2013 07:43 PM (J1Hl8)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 11:33 PM (Gk3SS)
Let the record reflect that I have little respect for people that refuse to vote because of their principles. I view it as a cop-out and a way to pretend that you're still in the political fray without actually having to do anything.
Perhaps this is unfair to some non-voters here but I'm okay with that.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 07:43 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:43 PM (DUewJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:43 PM (wPxCh)
Thanks. Twas a hunters paradise back in 83. The elk out on the ranch came right down on the creek. Half the time I never even had a gun with me. The night the cougar was on the front porch though, Every gun I had was loaded.
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at June 23, 2013 07:43 PM (MnSla)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:44 PM (jIaZt)
So what?
First, for all the time I've been alive nobody has died for my right to vote. I wasn't a citizen of the US until 1994; and I wasn't living in the place where I was a citizen (the UK). So whoever died on my behalf up to then was dying for my right to live in freedom - relative freedom to the Soviet Union, anyway. Voting didn't come into it. Freedom and elections are "clean different things".
Also I didn't ask these people to die for the right to vote. Why feel grateful to people who died for a cause I don't much care for?
This comment about oh boo hoo, people DIED, don't you feel awful about it - this is rank demagoguery.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 23, 2013 07:44 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 07:45 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 07:45 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:45 PM (DUewJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:45 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Mindy at June 23, 2013 07:46 PM (J1Hl8)
If we could get Congress to do that ...
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:46 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Walter at June 23, 2013 07:46 PM (AzwZn)
Things are getting VERY interesting in the court case about Obama's citizenship. An attorney has come forward with this testimony about a certain Indonesian student getting aid as a foreign citizen to attend Occidental College:
http://tinyurl.com/mbrtlqo
Pass it on: the only way to get facts past the Praetorian Media is to flood the zone, baby.
Posted by: Beverly at June 23, 2013 07:46 PM (RUCD/)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 07:47 PM (0n1+D)
Also I didn't ask these people to die for the right to vote. Why feel grateful to people who died for a cause I don't much care for?
This comment about oh boo hoo, people DIED, don't you feel awful about it - this is rank demagoguery.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 23, 2013 11:44 PM (QTHTd)
What if it's not all about you and your feelings?
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 07:47 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:47 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:47 PM (DUewJ)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 07:48 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 07:48 PM (CA2NO)
We live to fight another day. For what it's worth, flood the phones, mail your fish, send postcards, kick a hippie, whatever we can to let these weasels know our displeasure.
Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2013 07:48 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:48 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:48 PM (mIGXo)
I believe one needs to vote if you want to bitch after. But I am getting closer to voting for the Dem to punish the RINO with the way things are going. Might as well go for full suck if no one in We send to Washington will fight for us.
Posted by: McGregor at June 23, 2013 07:49 PM (qo244)
Perhaps this is unfair to some non-voters here but I'm okay with that.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 11:43 PM (XkotV)
That does not actually clarify your position in the slightest. In point of fact, it reinforces my take that you are attempting to have your cake and eat it too.
Thus, I put it to you directly: what do you mean by little respect for people that refuse to vote because of their principles? Do you mean refuse to cast any vote in any election or who refuse to vote in specific races?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:49 PM (Gk3SS)
Perhaps this is unfair to some non-voters here but I'm okay with that.
Posted by: Mætenloch
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Yeas. I'm with you on that. Many friends voted Perot..., telling me that they were 'voting their conscience'. I tried to point out that the election was not a referendum on their 'conscience', but an election to determine who the President was going to be. It generally fell on deaf ears, or stiffened their determination to 'do what they thought was right'. Fine. So what did we get? Bill fucking Clinton with 39% of the popular vote. Clinton proceeded to do damage that can not be undone.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 07:49 PM (aDwsi)
I do not intend to do so.
Posted by: Sean Bannion
My preference for a drinking establish is one where I do not have to go down the stairs on the way out. Up is ok, tripoding is acceptable after 0200.
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 07:49 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2013 07:49 PM (/IadT)
Though there was some well played and excellent sucking up when I was told I was lying when I mentioned that I will be, um, not 32 next month.
Of course you won't be. You'll be 29.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 07:49 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:50 PM (jIaZt)
295 Hi ont. question, if this shit passes the senate, is it done? Or does it go to the house?
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 23, 2013 11:22 PM (vgd4f)
its to the House then conference.
Posted by: rich@gmu at June 23, 2013 07:50 PM (mL5a6)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:51 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2013 07:51 PM (xuLu5)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 07:51 PM (aDwsi)
244Well if there is no moral difference, then why not drag your ass to the polls and choose the lesser of evils? Because they're both the same right?
At least voting is doing something. I respect those who try - those who sit at home with their precious unsullied principles not so much.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 11:09 PM (XkotV)
They are equally evil.
And I voted for Mitty Mouse because I thought it best. But, no more.
RINOs and democrats march in the same direction, just at a different pace.
The RINO is actually more evil because it pretends to be something it is not.
I've found in the past that there is no reasoning with individuals such as this. They're an incredibly small part of the vote. Let them rant while worshipping Ron Paul.
Posted by: Tim in ATL at June 23, 2013 07:51 PM (jqO4U)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 07:51 PM (CA2NO)
Serious you guys. I'm with MWR, set up paypal or some such and I'll kick in as well.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:51 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 23, 2013 07:51 PM (QLNHI)
Posted by: Infidel at June 23, 2013 07:52 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 07:52 PM (DUewJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:52 PM (mIGXo)
So what did we get? Bill fucking Clinton with 39% of the popular vote. Clinton proceeded to do damage that can not be undone.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 11:49 PM (aDwsi)
No... it got us the only balanced budget in generations... Note, that as soon as the threat to the two party system named Ross Perot was gone, they no longer balanced the budget.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 07:53 PM (lZBBB)
AHAHAHA. At the wedding this weekend, Cougar got called a liar by the wives of my college buddies when she told them how old she was.
My friend P is 52. She thinks I should bring her home one weekend just to piss of my mother.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 07:53 PM (lr3d7)
Thus, I put it to you directly: what do you mean by little respect for people that refuse to vote because of their principles? Do you mean refuse to cast any vote in any election or who refuse to vote in specific races?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 11:49 PM (Gk3SS)
Or does he mean refuse to vote for the pussy lying Republican that will spit on the base and the party platform and help the Democrats implement their agenda.
Posted by: buzzion at June 23, 2013 07:53 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Walter at June 23, 2013 07:53 PM (AzwZn)
Things are getting VERY interesting in the court case about Obama's citizenship. An attorney has come forward with this testimony about a certain Indonesian student getting aid as a foreign citizen to attend Occidental College:
http://tinyurl.com/mbrtlqo
Pass it on: the only way to get facts past the Praetorian Media is to flood the zone, baby.
Posted by: Beverly at June 23, 2013 11:46 PM (RUCD/)
I'd have to say that invalidating every act as President, every law he signed, every cabinet appointment he made, all the actions by his appointees and czars.....and -- last but not least -- back-billing him for all these fucking vacations and golf excursions.....would be very, very, very messy.
But I'd somehow manage to deal with it while LMFAO.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 07:53 PM (T1005)
Yeah.
Also I only bought two books at the used book store so ha! Victory was mine!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:54 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:54 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:54 PM (mIGXo)
Until this latest conflict I would have said I largely disagree with you.
We're going to get US ground troops killed training and aiding Al Qaeda allied groups in Syria and the Muslim Brotherhood elsewhere.
I cannot believe that were the media to accurately report on this Obama would enjoy his support base.
If he does I am at a loss as to what happened to my nation given the histrionics the force had to endure in the Bush era.
The soldiers of the United States serve literally the documents and ideals of the Constitution and the Bill or Rights at the cost if need be of their lives.
My rather simple task of showing up at the polls in the service to those causes is so minor a sacrifice I have trouble reconciling they are related but indeed they are.
Given the events of the last 20 years I cannot honestly cast as much opprobrium on the self-exiled as I once would have and indeed have done here at the HQ and Tepid but there are always uses for your vote.
You have a good evening.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 07:54 PM (LRFds)
http://www.businessinsider.com/giant-sinkhole-photos-2013-3?op=1
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:54 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 07:55 PM (0n1+D)
Gabe is a decent, albeit in many ways misguided guy...
but I would hope we all strive to meet the former and I know we all in our own ways meet the latter.
Heh I'm glad you guys had a great time.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 07:55 PM (LRFds)
I'd have to say that invalidating every act as President, every law he signed, every cabinet appointment he made, all the actions by his appointees and czars.....and -- last but not least -- back-billing him for all these fucking vacations and golf excursions.....would be very, very, very messy.
If by messy you mean blood in the streets, then yes it would be.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 07:56 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 07:56 PM (CA2NO)
Why We're Better off Euthanizing Child Molesters
My own two cents (and overpriced at that): any murder of a person under 18 by anyone with any molestation record, no matter how long ago the charge, should be automatically sentenced to the death penalty. No exceptions, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
Does anyone know if this is already on the books in any state?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 23, 2013 07:56 PM (7B7jB)
http://www.businessinsider.com/giant-sinkhole-photos-2013-3?op=1
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 11:54 PM (wPxCh)
Will a Sharknado come out of the sinkhole? Because a Sharknado should come out of the sinkhole.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 07:56 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Ruthless at June 23, 2013 07:56 PM (nq+Ye)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 11:49 PM (Gk3SS)
To clarify - if you have some knowledge about the candidates in a particular race, then yes you should choose from among them as best you can. If you know nothing, then skip that race.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 07:56 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2013 07:57 PM (xuLu5)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 07:57 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: navybrat at June 23, 2013 07:58 PM (L12M0)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 07:58 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 07:58 PM (jIaZt)
And thank Gabe in the morning thread. We split the remainder.
BTW, Malor is a mensch. Early on in this deal when I was worried about up front costs thanks to - no shit - the effect of sequester on my paycheck, he told me he would personally cover any underage. He told me this in April. Ge was true to his word.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 23, 2013 11:52 PM (DUewJ)
I'll second that Gabe is a mensch. A true gentleman, and pleasant to talk to even if you're both shouting over the racket and you only catch every third syllable.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 07:58 PM (T1005)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 07:59 PM (CA2NO)
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That's a bit of a cause/effect reach, isn't it? After all, the balanced budget was a consequence of Republican control of Congress.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 07:59 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 11:57 PM (wPxCh)
Followed by this: http://youtu.be/bITmSpxUAA8
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 08:00 PM (Gk3SS)
My personal "best"(and more honestly worst) was IIRC about 3100 during the election build up when I had very little sleep and was so angry I was worried about going outside.....
I cannot comprehend how I attained that volume other than rambling, mania, and multiple windows and an android on my wifi all being deployed at once.
Worse I was also on Twitter and a high volume with charts and analysis force on twitter and aid to Grenell's attempted shaming on Benghazi and James Petoikis'(?) position and lamenting on "the new normal" WRT unemployment and debt load....
it was a "weird fall"
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:00 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: buzzion at June 23, 2013 11:53 PM (LI48c)
Voting != voting for the GOP candidate.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 23, 2013 08:00 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 08:00 PM (mIGXo)
Then there is the whole battle between the super sized python and the mutant gator. For the win!
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 08:01 PM (wPxCh)
come on now CAC you're not being fair...
If you get to cross the streams and county eleventy kajillion dimensions in my post count we need to check your extradimensional herbal consumption buddy.....
heh
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:01 PM (LRFds)
Did they fit in your luggage? Or should I say, after much cursing and profaning their ancestry did they fit in your luggage? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at June 23, 2013 11:59 PM (CA2NO)
Why, yes, yes, they did.
If by luggage, you mean my trunk and you also mean in their own bag. Then yes, of course!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 08:01 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 08:02 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 08:02 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: Walter at June 23, 2013 08:03 PM (AzwZn)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 08:03 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2013 08:03 PM (xuLu5)
NAFTA turned out to be just like all the other modern pieces of crap foisted on us by Congress long on promises, short on delivery.
Congress is great at concocting these monstrous bills (NAFTA, Fin Regulation Reform, Health Care Reform, Immigration Reform, Stimulus, etc.) that do everything except improve the status quo; they actually make things worse.
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 08:04 PM (LVtr+)
I'd have to say that invalidating every act as President, every law he signed, every cabinet appointment he made, all the actions by his appointees and czars.....and -- last but not least -- back-billing him for all these fucking vacations and golf excursions.....would be very, very, very messy.
If by messy you mean blood in the streets, then yes it would be.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 11:56 PM (lr3d7)
Black and white -- I'd take it. And I'm not a great fan of blood. As Tool eloquently puts it:
"Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks
Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay."
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 08:04 PM (T1005)
Posted by: NWConservative at June 23, 2013 08:04 PM (M1gmo)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 08:04 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 08:04 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2013 08:05 PM (xuLu5)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 24, 2013 12:02 AM (wPxCh)
The Fagles translation of The Odyssey because I realized the other day that I didn't actually own it and Ancestor by Scott Sigler.
Hmmm. I just realized that may sum me up far better than I intended.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 08:05 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 08:06 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 08:06 PM (jIaZt)
I should also add Libya and Egypt to that list. Obama meddled to bring democracy to those places and ended up making things worse.
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 08:06 PM (GcwH1)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at June 23, 2013 08:06 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Baldy at June 23, 2013 08:06 PM (tyDFN)
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 23, 2013 08:07 PM (SAMxH)
It is ridic how stupid excited I am that Wimbledon is starting tomorrow. Hurray for a sport I can watch without there being any politics, or, actually the politics is all Eurpoean and South American and like I give a shit about that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 08:07 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Lauren at June 23, 2013 08:07 PM (wsGWu)
per week bud....
I am in no way shape or form prepared to THC battle for the crown....
my wife snarkily told me to get a girlfriend, go back to my job if I could be sane enough, take up knitting, and clean the house that weekend....
all in good cheer she enjoyed reading my less bitter stuff and I had saved up money to donate and live off of had I volunteered....
2012 broke my heart, and I can sincerely say I am not sure I am or want to be part of this culture anymore.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:08 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: spypeach at June 23, 2013 08:08 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: Chicagorefugee at June 23, 2013 08:08 PM (sCsUf)
Yeas. I'm with you on that. Many friends voted Perot..., telling me that they were 'voting their conscience'. I tried to point out that the election was not a referendum on their 'conscience', but an election to determine who the President was going to be. It generally fell on deaf ears, or stiffened their determination to 'do what they thought was right'. Fine. So what did we get? Bill fucking Clinton with 39% of the popular vote. Clinton proceeded to do damage that can not be undone.
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I think any American who is paying attention today and still believes in the 2-Party system is a dumb motherfucker who deserves the government they get. Posted by: Walter
George Bush I couldn't hold my jock. The only reason Perot didn't win is because he didn't want to. The whole conspiracy-to-ruin-his-daughter's-wedding thing was utterly contrived. He ran to steer the debate and never imagined he'd be a viable candidate. When it turned out he was, he freaked. I'd much rather have had him as POTUS than either Bush or Clinton. The guy actually ran a business and accomplished stuff in the real world.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2013 08:09 PM (/IadT)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 08:09 PM (wPxCh)
As I recall, Louisiana had the death penalty for certain child molestation offenses. It was found unconstitutional by the SC; basically, the death penalty can only be imposed for murder and treason now.
Strangely, I can't remember which clause in the Constitution says that, but hey, I'm not one of dem constipational scholars ya know.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2013 08:10 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 08:10 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 08:10 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer
No, it's not. The only reason anyone gave a turd was because Ross got his pie charts out on TV, lifted up the engine hood, and showed us the gunk down there.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2013 08:11 PM (/IadT)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 08:11 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 08:12 PM (CA2NO)
No but I know where to look...
Countrymen and McDaniel...
http://www.cargolaw.com/presentations_casualties.php
a most fascinating site...
God I love NTSB after incident reports...
7,041-TEU container vessel MOL Comfort, with crew of 26, suffered crack / severe structural failure amidships and water ingress off Yemen, while under way from Singapore to Jeddah on the Indian Ocean (12'30"N 60'E) during inclement whether at about noon JST (07:00 local time) on June 17. [17-06-2013] UPDATE>> Vessel is broken into two, both sections still separately afloat and foundering as of sundown June 17. Some containers reported overboard, oil spill reported. [18-06-2013]
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:12 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 23, 2013 08:12 PM (vgd4f)
Indeed....the two halves are last I have been able to glean still floating...the ships are remarkably resilient after a fashion
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:13 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 08:14 PM (mIGXo)
My Anti-Ace Review of Man Of Steel:
It ain't gonna make you forget the Christopher Reeve version.
Posted by: zsasz at June 23, 2013 11:24 PM (MMC8r)
How about the George Reeves version?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 23, 2013 11:27 PM (FIgyg)
Well it might make you forget Reeve's 4th film. And its certainly going to make you forget the Brandon Routh/Bryan Singer crap. Especially when Nolan has Superman kick that turd pile into orbit at the end of the movie.
Posted by: buzzion at June 23, 2013 08:14 PM (LI48c)
That's a bit of a cause/effect reach, isn't it? After all, the balanced budget was a consequence of Republican control of Congress.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 23, 2013 11:59 PM (aDwsi)
Sorry... evidence does not support... because the 2003-2006 Congress, when Repubs had both a lock on power... they did not balance the budget... even without War spending..
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 08:14 PM (lZBBB)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/selection-du-weekend-41-21.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 08:15 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at June 23, 2013 08:15 PM (MnSla)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 24, 2013 12:09 AM (wPxCh)
It's a modern verse translation which is actually quite well done. Plus I'm a bit of a translation nerd.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at June 23, 2013 08:15 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: irongrampa at June 23, 2013 10:16 PM (SAMxH)
If it were my child, he wouldn't even get the first.
Posted by: tcn at June 23, 2013 08:15 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: Lauren at June 23, 2013 08:16 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 08:17 PM (mIGXo)
not to quibble too hard
1) clinton's budget was not quite so balanced as we pretend he was raiding the entitlement cookie jars hard when they had a more positive exchange flow....
2) the Post Newt Hill GOP was a different beast than Newt's and frankly Bush and "Compassionate Conservatism" shat on our frugality and undermined our ability to show our economic ideas were working....
Clinton gets credit for "Balance" of course too often they happily forget that he also left a recession and an unstable economy destined to explode.....
yes Bush should have fought like hell to defuse the bomb and all plenty of blame to go around
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:19 PM (LRFds)
Hmmmm
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 08:19 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 23, 2013 08:19 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 23, 2013 08:19 PM (vgd4f)
Heh....not seen that but it would not be I would wager too hard to do with poor loadmastering
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:20 PM (LRFds)
One: Failure analysts always use weasel words since that is what they are paid to do 2: sealed containers float so it might be true if they are tied to the ship well enough.
Posted by: McGregor at June 23, 2013 08:20 PM (qo244)
http://tinyurl.com/lhlmj4o
Oh, and yesterday, happy 72nd anniversary of Operation Barbarossa.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2013 08:21 PM (/IadT)
So Glenn Beck is giving Laurie Dhue another chance to get back on her feet? Nice.
I think Glenn Beck tries to help out E.D. Hill, too. She was unfairly ousted at Fox after making remarks, I think.
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 08:21 PM (xIzGn)
She was wearing way too much eye makeup? She was wearing pantyhose under her shorts?? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 23, 2013 08:22 PM (7B7jB)
"So there he lay asleep, the steadfast and goodly Odysseus, fordone with toil and drowsiness. Meanwhile Athene went to the land and city of PhÂœacians who of old, upon a time, dwelt in spacious Hypereia; near the Cyclopes they dwelt, men exceedingly proud, who harried them continually, being mightier than they. Thence the godlike Nausithous made them depart, and he carried them away, and planted them in Scheria, far off from men that live by bread."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 08:22 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 08:22 PM (CMlD4)
eh "maybe"...
the Mol Comfort was built in '08 and likely had a lot of hard use...
looks in pictures as though she was not kept at peak seaworthiness...
and of course given our own nation's paucity of SeaLift and Merchant Marine relative to the logistics flow we engage in may well have been "any old hull in a storm"....
I'll reserve judgement.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=311006900
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:23 PM (LRFds)
7,041-TEU container vessel MOL Comfort, with crew of 26, suffered crack / severe structural failure amidships and water ingress off
Yemen, while under way from Singapore to Jeddah on the Indian Ocean
(12'30"N 60'E) during inclement whether at about noon JST (07:00 local
time) on June 17. [17-06-2013] UPDATE>> Vessel is broken into two, both sections still separately afloat and foundering as of sundown June 17. Some containers reported overboard, oil spill reported. [18-06-2013]
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 12:12 AM (LRFds)
Israeli submarines have concussion torpedoes that break ships in half? Who knew?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2013 08:24 PM (fNpC1)
Night, all!Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at June 23, 2013 08:24 PM (CA2NO)
Yeah...an analysis of the failure dynamics and timeline will be interesting as would a buoyancy analysis of the loadplan....
I am not as savvy at Maritime as Air cargo but it is something I enjoy gleaning
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:25 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 12:19 AM (LRFds)
I think its even simpler...
ANY threat to the Two Old Boy Groups who run Washington will be destroyed by them, and their pet media.
TEA Party? Sarah Palin? You constantly see REPUBS and their pet 'Pundits' dismissing anything they say... and using character assassination... hell... Look at what Mccain has said about Cruz! He talks worse about Cruz than about the OTHER PARTY!
Perot was a threat on a whole other level. He was identified with the Balanced Budget Issue, and the ONLY way to get rid of him, was to get rid of that issue (IMO).
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 08:26 PM (lZBBB)
heh far more likely IMHO that it was perhaps a UDT attack....
*if* that is what happened...
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:26 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Lauren at June 23, 2013 08:27 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 08:27 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: zeera at June 23, 2013 08:28 PM (3dXwx)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 08:28 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 08:29 PM (jIaZt)
I think Perot was a bit unstable and I am not discussing the media hype. Also his personal business "savvy" was far too close to Bill Gates' style than I'd prefer.
That said I'd elect him over what we got the last 4 times.
Bush's refusal to fight coupled with the current GOP's refusal to attack the EPA overreach and refusal to properly exploit our energy sources to refire industry is maddening.
I am slowly becoming convinced the GOP is on board with the US Government trying to get its Hugo Chavez on.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:29 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 08:30 PM (jIaZt)
For a goth, you're a pretty good guy. Plus, BOC fans have at least something on the ball. (I'm just messing with you SF.)
Mandela could have bent and probably gotten out of prison, It damn near killed him, and so did his imprisoners. I'll give him this -- he had the courage of his convictions.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2013 08:31 PM (ccXZP)
evening yes I'm awake...gonna try to crash soon though...
been a bad 4 days and I am in a grim mood.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:31 PM (LRFds)
http://tinyurl.com/lhlmj4o
Oh, and yesterday, happy 72nd anniversary of Operation Barbarossa.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 24, 2013 12:21 AM (/IadT)
Surprise, surprise.....comments disappeared.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 08:31 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 08:31 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Lauren at June 23, 2013 08:32 PM (wsGWu)
everything one hopes and most of what one may fear...but the hopes outweigh the fears most times.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:32 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Berserker at June 23, 2013 08:32 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 23, 2013 08:33 PM (Hv5vz)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 23, 2013 08:34 PM (vgd4f)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/selection-du-weekend-41-26.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 08:34 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 12:29 AM (LRFds)
Richard Nixon Created the EPA.
Bush 41 the American with Disabilities Act.
Bush 43 the Department of Homeland Security.
All three created Huge Government agencies, who can write Regulations with the Power of Law... and enforce, or NOT Enforce, written law.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 08:35 PM (lZBBB)
BTW, what do you morons think of this comment in the San Francisco Chronicle:
http://tinyurl.com/lhlmj4o
Oh, and yesterday, happy 72nd anniversary of Operation Barbarossa.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 24, 2013 12:21 AM (/IadT)
Surprise, surprise.....comments disappeared.
Posted by: cthulhu
No, mine's still there. I responded to:
Nelson Mandela along with Mahatma Gandhi and Cesar Chavez are true heroes of the late 20th Century IMHO.
with:
Gothic
Mahatma Gandhi opposed using violence to end the Holocaust. You call that a hero? No, true heroes are people like Jimmy Stewart (who at 35, and long a top movie star, demanded to (and did) fly B-24 bombing missions over Germany) and Hank Greenberg, one of the greatest baseball players ever, who lost 5 years from his career by volunteering to serve at age 29 (and did so scouting bomber bases in the Far East) from 1941 to 1945. Not to denigrate what Mandel, Gandhi, and Chavez did, but they *had* to; Jimmy Stewart and Hank Greenberg didn't -- and those two could easily have been killed, esp. Stewart, who flew 2 missions during 1944's "Big Week" in which 261 USAAF bombers were shot down.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2013 08:35 PM (/IadT)
B if the McCain gang passes this shit and Boehner aids the GOP is more complicit IMHO than the mules...
we know what they are the GOP is not supposed to screw us like this on this.
I've agreed w/your stance for a long time but if the McCain gang thinks they can damage America to "help" then I will use the Democrats to destroy them and "help"
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:35 PM (LRFds)
I just refreshed and the comment by gothic is still there.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2013 08:35 PM (ccXZP)
Nik Wallenda Falls to His Death, Family Claims Dumb Ass Clause in His Life Insurance Policy
Posted by: Craig Poe at June 23, 2013 08:35 PM (BVkEs)
http://tinypic.com/r/2pzb8z4/5
Posted by: Lauren at June 24, 2013 12:27 AM (wsGWu)
Looks like me after tanning for two weeks.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 24, 2013 12:28 AM (mIGXo)
I could skin off the t-shirt and do a self-pic in the sun.....'cept you guys would think it was just CGI of a supernova.
Alternatively, I could try the same shot in the shade, where you'd think it was autopsy photos of a drowning victim hauled out three days later.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 08:35 PM (T1005)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 08:37 PM (jIaZt)
everything one hopes and most of what one may fear...but the hopes outweigh the fears most times.>>
For the most part babies are what you make of them. Yes there is fear that you didn't do things right, But like cooking steak if you're close it's more about the farm than the chef.
Posted by: McGregor at June 23, 2013 08:37 PM (qo244)
You think I am a fan of that body of work?
I enabled it, and the tools being used to rape Lady Liberty *are* largely from Nixon's strategic moves to try to steal the new left's thunder in the 60s.
I get it.
Part of my ruminating on Plan "B" is precisely that I have given a lifetime to Big Govt Donk Lite elephants...
I'm having a hard time math wise arguing against the cold logic of empowering the mules to go full retard like they did post Watergate anymore.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:37 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Lauren at June 23, 2013 08:38 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 08:38 PM (mIGXo)
I may be on the NSA "can't see comments on SFGate" list.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 08:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 23, 2013 08:39 PM (mIGXo)
Posted by: Lauren at June 23, 2013 08:41 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 12:37 AM (LRFds)
I just think its possible to create an alternate party... one that is actually a proponent of small Constitutional Government...
One that actually DOES what its platform says...
So... I don't advocate sitting out... I advocate trying to find something else...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 08:41 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Country Singer at June 23, 2013 08:43 PM (U22Yw)
Posted by: Jose at June 23, 2013 08:45 PM (zc/sw)
So... I don't advocate sitting out... I advocate trying to find something else... Posted by: Romeo13
So you want to elect engineers instead of lawyers?
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 08:45 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 08:45 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 08:45 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 08:47 PM (8FeS+)
So you want to elect engineers instead of lawyers?
That doesn't necessarily do you any good. A lot of engineers that I know are hard core libs. They think that they are smart enough to build a system that they can run the whole country with.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 23, 2013 08:48 PM (lr3d7)
So... I don't advocate sitting out... I advocate trying to find something else...
Posted by: Romeo13
So you want to elect engineers instead of lawyers?
Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2013 12:45 AM (CMlD4)
I suspect that Shakespeare might have been onto something. (Henry VI, Part 2, Act 4, scene 2, 71-78.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 08:48 PM (T1005)
I may be on the NSA "can't see comments on SFGate" list.
Posted by: cthulhu
See post #541
Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2013 08:49 PM (/IadT)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 08:49 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Lauren at June 23, 2013 08:50 PM (wsGWu)
A third Party would enable more stark left lurching than goes on...
I've seen game theory presentations on it...
I am going to go you one better and empower the democrats to indulge their lunatics and ideally drive people rightward or get it established once and for all my Nation is dead....
I suspect my understanding of the American experiment is in fact dead if we cannot allow this nation to split along economic and social lines ideally as peacefully as possible.
The two "dreams" are too far apart.
You cannot have the socialism they want without control so onerous our bill of rights dies....
I won't tolerate it, I'd rather go live in Mongolia where the tyranny is mostly apathetic than here where it'll be zealous and evangelical in application and my oath and history would compel me to fight as savagely as possible to reestablish liberty.
I won't wear a Guy Fawkes Mask and pretend I'm in a movie if it ever comes to that....
and given the 2012 results I'm fairly certain my effort is doomed to fail.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:50 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 23, 2013 08:51 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 08:51 PM (CMlD4)
Wow not my experience most engineers I know are pragmatic socially agnostic Conservatives.....
yes they do engage in the hubris of thinking they can control leviathan with good system management theory though
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:52 PM (LRFds)
We need to make sure the Republican party doesnt take the Conservative vote for granted; and make the Democrats at least respect Constitution and the Flag.
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 08:53 PM (CMlD4)
You vote "R" I'll vote "D"(o over)
I will not support the GOP that stabs the American worker in the back.
They are simply put engaging in treason in my name in my eyes.
"no"
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:53 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2013 08:54 PM (/YPOi)
Jose, I've watched episodes 1 and 2, so far. Gotta tell ya, they better be going somewhere interesting with this clone thing or else I'm giving up.
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 08:54 PM (FC8Yl)
Thge only way to split the donkey will be for us to cross over and use the Union Dems who are just greedy shitheads against the fucking devout "citizen of the fucking world" Marxists....
odious I know but there it is IMHO
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:55 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2013 08:55 PM (/YPOi)
What fresh hell is this? You post an hour long cat video!
Though I must say, I admire those cats for their tolerance, enduring those British ahccents with such feline aplomb.
Posted by: Meow at June 23, 2013 08:56 PM (qKpun)
Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2013 12:45 AM (CMlD4)
Worth a try.... because Electing lawyers sure isn't doing us any good.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 08:57 PM (lZBBB)
i don't understand all the angst over the immigration bill
of course the Mexicans will be voting for the right party
sheesh, don't sweat it
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 23, 2013 08:57 PM (a494b)
Yeah if the state GOP is worthy certainly....
I can't honestly say Ohio's is...
so a better message will be sent to the national if we scorch the whole GOP statewide...
I'm just one conservative....
probably won't matter but I am not rewarding their embracing the Medicaid expansion
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:58 PM (LRFds)
Si so will I amigo....
so will I....
then I will use Juan to blow up the democrats come primary season...
La Raza for the win amigo...
Shelia Jackson Lee for example
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 08:59 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 23, 2013 09:00 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 23, 2013 09:01 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 09:01 PM (CMlD4)
http://youtu.be/Nq1M0MEB-W4
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 23, 2013 09:02 PM (wPxCh)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 09:03 PM (Vk2pI)
I was almost gonna start watching WILFRED (with Elijah Wood) today but then noticed Steven Weber and Mary Steenburgen are also on the show. No thanks.
Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at June 23, 2013 09:04 PM (+oin+)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 09:04 PM (CMlD4)
otherwise, the establishment will rightly assume they can take conservatives for granted
we have to make sure to rally behind a single Graham opponent and not split his opposition
Posted by: Jose at June 23, 2013 09:04 PM (zc/sw)
Happy to help out.
Night y'all. I've got to be fresh tomorrow...get to justify my position to the new boss.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 23, 2013 09:05 PM (U22Yw)
585 and right there is why republicans lose
it isn't about infighting or keeping the other party's voters home
its all about getting your voters to the booths
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 23, 2013 09:05 PM (a494b)
How do they decide which Rep is running against which Dem?
Posted by: Jose at June 23, 2013 09:06 PM (zc/sw)
Posted by: JEM at June 23, 2013 09:07 PM (o+SC1)
We've been trying "electable" since 1988 all I got was a 17 trillion dollar and climbing deficit....
hey remember when Reagan was being bitched out for what 400 billion in deficit spending give or take over 8 years?
Yeah what a dark era that was....
Bush was far better than Obama but that would be my like my bragging I am lighter than a whale...
the nation needs to get back to work and people need to get off the federal tit if able
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:07 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: SFGoth at June 24, 2013 12:35 AM (/IadT)
I may be on the NSA "can't see comments on SFGate" list.
Posted by: cthulhu
See post #541
Posted by: SFGoth at June 24, 2013 12:49 AM (/IadT)
Nice!
Careful you don't get a bunch of SF'ers coming to your door with pitchforks and torches because you uttered horrible facts.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 09:09 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 09:10 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 09:10 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 23, 2013 09:11 PM (Vk2pI)
right dude...
like Barky and the IRS and the grave vote...
look NCJ you won, you won....
let's not pretend it is because the democrats are following fucking civics 101 you fuckers have it on Easy mode....
you happily toss around the public's money in direct partisan vote buying..,.you've empowered the4 NEA to destroy US education....
you enabled unrepentant communists to exert their will in the unions and higher education....
take a bow....
the long march worked bud....
now once the GOP finishes off the last of its credibility on being a force for the US worker and economic liberty I am gonna help you for at least 2 and maybe 40 years....
This is all yours baby....
and I aim to help the newer better Americans use your party to help you guys get your Hugo Chavez on
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:12 PM (LRFds)
Correct, perversely democrats control the SC GOP at the statewide level....
yes yes "reformed democrats" but democrats naytheless...
anyway it has never failed to entertain me how maze like SC politics are.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:13 PM (LRFds)
Hat it'll end one way or the other...
Plan "b" is just my stab at trying to speed up the day of reckoning....
why let the democrats demagogue their imaginary friend they have used media collusion to convince exists?
Far better to give them everything they say they want.
La Raza/Democrat 2016
Ole
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:16 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 09:16 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 09:19 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 23, 2013 09:19 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: JEM at June 24, 2013 01:07 AM (o+SC1)
More? Snowden made an interesting point in one of his posts...
The Constitution does not differentiate between Citizens, and non Citizens, when it speaks of Rights... and in fact the Bill of Rights lists what our Government CANNOT do...
They spin the NSA program as 'JUST' going after foreigners... but.. the Constitution does NOT say that subpoenas are only needed for CITIZENS... it says that to get at persons, or papers... to search... there must be cause and a warrant saying who will be searched, what is being searched, and what they are looking for.
In the past, US spys were given a pass on this because they only worked OUTSIDE the US... and were thus covered by foreign law if caught... but these folks are acting WITHIN the US... under US Jurisdiction... and thus all Government Prohibitions within the Constitution should be in effect.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 09:19 PM (lZBBB)
can they keep gramnesty unopposed
Posted by: NCwoof at June 23, 2013 09:20 PM (aUQgu)
they cheated to protect him last time...I was there...
Myrtle Beach ran out of ballots...
Vic is still in a rage about the games the Graham gang plays...
the game is rigged in SC for the primaries....
probably always has been...not as overt as Chicago not as accepted as Louisiana's antics but SC basically uses every acceptable form of gamesmanship to keep Graham going....
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:21 PM (LRFds)
Vic on the dawn patrol is very savvy on it...
they can't prevent anyone from primarying him but they aren't shy about using state resources against "mavericks".....
Nikki H for example had to weather dirty tricks...
I'll donate and try to volunteer if able to beat his ass....
he is an insult to our party
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:23 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 09:24 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: JEM at June 23, 2013 09:24 PM (o+SC1)
maybe....and on the state level I agree...
Nationally the media will go into Jihad mode as hard as it takes...
look at all the shit they ignored last year....
no if the public wants donkey shit I'll help shovel if Obama signs this amnesty bill....
force feed them the shit
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:25 PM (LRFds)
quite....unread....proudly unread...
this Gangbang Del Ocho sack of shit is literally a blowjob to Schumer and Obama from the McCain gang....
Obama is basically telling the Senate GOP "load as much pork as it takes to buy you!"
They added Porkulus II or III or whatever to it....
this is so fucking insane it has me ready to vote straight ticket D if need be
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:27 PM (LRFds)
609 But the only way this is going to happen is by electing not-D's ...
ummmmm, can we hold off on that plan till 2016 pls?
Christ on a crutch
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 23, 2013 09:28 PM (a494b)
Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 09:28 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 09:29 PM (sdi6R)
I've heard a lot of good things and the conservatives I know in the area are very pleased...as well they should be but I don't thiunk Gowdy will challenge Graham...although I'd probably donate 500 bucks if he did.
Make no mistake I am not saying "always vote democrat" I am saying "never vote RINO *because*"
Gowdy would make Schumer shit himself
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:29 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 09:33 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Jean at June 23, 2013 09:33 PM (CMlD4)
yes yes because HILLARY! would use a bobsled course oh so much better....
no NCJ I'll tell you what I told a democrat voting GOP traitor yesterday....
if the GOP passes amnesty I'm all in with you guy screw them...Jon Stewart says they're racist shitheads anyway.....
(the guy is a glock pistol nut...33 shot mag guy)
but what about guns sven?
Yeah what about guns indeed...
oh don't worry I am certain there'll be no overreach....
I'm gonna encourage EVERYONE to cross over.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:33 PM (LRFds)
You haven't been paying attention lately, have you?
Posted by: Don't be a chump at June 23, 2013 09:33 PM (3OWYl)
Posted by: JEM at June 23, 2013 09:34 PM (o+SC1)
Been reading the comments at Greenwald's column in the Guardian. Regarding this NSA and Snowden issue, the libs are sounding conservative and the left is sounding libertarian. The libertarian are sounding libertarian still. The conservatives are sounding Obotic. It's a healthy kind of muddling if you ask me. Separates the unprincipled partisans from the principled civil liberties types.
Could this be the start of a post-partisan paradigm?
Posted by: BubbaLou at June 23, 2013 09:35 PM (qKpun)
As a Senator? Give me a shovel.
Posted by: JEM at June 24, 2013 01:34 AM (o+SC1)
Would that be the Graham who wants to get militarily involved in every pisspot problem all over the dam world?
Sorry... My Son is Active Duty... him as Sec State is a non starter with me.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 09:36 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 23, 2013 09:37 PM (FlRtG)
yup it is how Team Jackass checkmated us by the way....
any proper response to this by a public whose under 30s have been largely trained to think of govt as God will devolve into another hyperstate....
if I express what I feel would most quickly get us a level playing field I am a demon and will be banned across cyberspace....
understand something THAT exists from OUR side when Obama is allied with a guy who proudly advocated killing 25 million of us and shits on the US flag....
anyway only answer left is to be a metaphorical suicide bomber and use their overreach to blow up their caucus and people's deference to the state...
the miracle of our founding and its "negative liberties" Bark bitches about has zero chance in 30 years...
the future is now or rather the event horizon of the black hole of Marxian "liberty" is here now....
and my price for trying to gum up the works of the DNC?
Why gee it is not self-identifying with Shithead McCain and Fuckhead Graham....
what a goddamned burden
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:39 PM (LRFds)
In which case the film industry's complaint of declining profit must be regarded as a lie and any sympathy, especially in the form of tax breaks, must be withheld.
Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 09:39 PM (kcfmt)
The people do not look happy ...
Posted by: Arbalest at June 24, 2013 01:37 AM (FlRtG)
I'm hammering three points...
1. CBO says unemployment will rise.
2. CBO says Wages will drop.
3. CBO says this will only stop about 25% of illegal Immigration...
Sooo.... why are we doing this if it makes things worse for citizens, and will NOT solve the illegal Immigration problem?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 09:40 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 24, 2013 01:15 AM (T1005)
Bitch storms always go North around me. The last like 5 rained in the Bay and North of me but not on me.
Starting to get that "God hates me" feeling.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 24, 2013 01:19 AM (yoh1c)
God seems pretty neutral and fair. The US Government despises me and hates my guts.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 09:41 PM (T1005)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 09:44 PM (8FeS+)
does anybody here know how to copy an Excel spreadsheet into Word such that if I modify the Excel spreadsheet later on, it does not attempt to update the copied one already pasted into Word?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 23, 2013 09:44 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 23, 2013 09:45 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 23, 2013 09:46 PM (MmAnW)
Posted by: JEM at June 23, 2013 09:46 PM (o+SC1)
I agree...
that's where plan B comes in....
it took communsim 72 years to self-destruct in the Soviet Union....
I figure we'll do it in 16 tops
Stalin had some tools to use Ogabe ideally won't and if he does it will provide a moral clarity currently lacking....
they are strangling our economy and purposefully and willfully ass fucking the American worker....
I'm tired of my vote being used to empower assholes who want to get to workers' paradise but more slowly....
I figure empower the donks to self-immolate
let's see if their suicide coalition is REALLY suicidal for a change
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:48 PM (LRFds)
does anybody here know how to copy an Excel spreadsheet into Word such that if I modify the Excel spreadsheet later on, it does not attempt to update the copied one already pasted into Word?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 24, 2013 01:44 AM (9GG/0
Well the easiest solution is of course create a copy of the Excel file and insert the spreadsheet from the copy.
Posted by: buzzion at June 23, 2013 09:48 PM (LI48c)
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAILSTORM IS COMING TO HONOLULU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and the brat will be back
she will meet her hero
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 23, 2013 09:49 PM (a494b)
Posted by: JEM at June 24, 2013 01:46 AM (o+SC1)
Sec State is also an advisor to the President on matters which pertain to his Department...
He is the one who is talking to foreign governments... and thus a Sec States Hardline advice, and rhetoric, could get us embroiled in things we should not be involved in...
As an Admiral once told me... Staff IS Policy...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 09:49 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 09:49 PM (8FeS+)
does anybody here know how to copy an Excel spreadsheet into Word such that if I modify the Excel spreadsheet later on, it does not attempt to update the copied one already pasted into Word?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 24, 2013 01:44 AM (9GG/0)
No, but if you hum a few bars.....
Depends on the versions. It might be as simple as a "paste values" or "convert to table" -- it may be a total clusterfark. That's Microsoft.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 09:51 PM (T1005)
the number comes from the same actuarial geniuses who were only off a foctor of thirty fold on OgabeCare's impact on insurance premiums....
"trust us"
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 09:51 PM (LRFds)
Make it into an image, or just copy the data to a simple table without the underlying spreadsheet functionality. As long as the numbers are final a table is just fine for allowing reformatting.
On app that is handy for creating images is Publisher, if you have it as part of your Office suite. It'll let you output anything to an image file. Or you can import it to Publisher, save it as a Publisher file, then import that to Word. That will possibly break the OLE/COM/whatever they call it nowadays link back to Excel.
Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 09:52 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 23, 2013 09:52 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 09:53 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 24, 2013 01:46 AM (MmAnW)
Probably the "fine," as well as the supposed future tax revenue, and the paying of back taxes. You know the thing that will be waived, the thing that won't materialize because they will be in the 50% that pay no taxes category, and the thing that will never be paid.
Posted by: buzzion at June 23, 2013 09:53 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 09:53 PM (yoh1c)
646 behold hailstorm
the greatness of a ginger combined with a power chord
http://tinyurl.com/lg47rba
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 23, 2013 09:54 PM (a494b)
HAILSTORM IS COMING TO HONOLULU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and the brat will be back
she will meet her hero
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 24, 2013 01:49 AM (a494b
They put on a pretty good show when I saw them in Fort Wayne. She's got a set of pipes on her. Nice looking too.
Posted by: buzzion at June 23, 2013 09:55 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 24, 2013 01:48 AM (LRFds)
I think the timeline is very short.
We are in wayyyyy too much debt, and if interest rates go to a historic normal level, we can't support the debt.
FED Reserve has just signaled they are about to stop keeping interest rates artificially low... at the same time Obama wants to let in Millions of unskilled immigrants... has messed up 1/6th of the economy (healthcare)... and is talking CO2 Global Warming BS again (thus raising energy prices)....
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2013 09:56 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 09:56 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 23, 2013 09:56 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 09:57 PM (sdi6R)
655 my b-i-l was working back stage a couple years ago cause his bro plays bass for a band that played in the same festival
he said they were amazing and would make it big
guess he's right
the brat wants to be her but with George lynch's guitar ability
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 23, 2013 09:59 PM (a494b)
the greatness of a ginger combined with a power chord
http://tinyurl.com/lg47rba
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 24, 2013 01:54 AM (a494b)
Really if you're gonna link one of their songs for the morons you should go with this one.
Posted by: buzzion at June 23, 2013 09:59 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 23, 2013 10:01 PM (9GG/0)
he said they were amazing and would make it big
guess he's right
the brat wants to be her but with George lynch's guitar ability
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 24, 2013 01:59 AM (a494b)
I thought that they played their music a little heavier live than what they do on the studio versions as well.
Posted by: buzzion at June 23, 2013 10:03 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 23, 2013 10:03 PM (MmAnW)
the only tool my own side allows me is my vote and my thoughts in this ether....
that's it...
no political violence...no Sven you can't follow the Counter Insurgency doctrine and start coercing or subverting hostile media/opfor propaganda personnel....
so the best way I can use my vote if McCain Gang fucks me and my family's ability to work and gain is to frankly empower the donks to go berzerk with power intoxication....
Guy the media will do all it can to keep us from ever winning again...and has been pointed out in this thread had Mitt won we'd be working on amnesty as well...
Hillary! is gonna get to replace Scalia and maybe Thomas...
she'll nominate asshole marxists too
I appreciate what you're saying but if they crash the plane while enough of us who understand our founding and the Bill of Rights and the enlightenment are still extant we'll be better off in the rebuilding phase....
The obvious goal of the democrats is not so much to repeal the bill of rights as to so brazenly ignore them and engage in uneven application of law and prosecutorial power they may as well not exist....
so my solution painful as it is is to speed up the timetable....
and pray
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 10:04 PM (LRFds)
I think she's optomistic...but there are worse things....
Barry will debauch the currency even further and we will still be denied our resources....
we'll see
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 10:05 PM (LRFds)
Mætenloch...thank you for what you said upthread about voting.
I heartily agree.
Here's why:
Oklahoma hasn't always been the 'reddest state' on the map.
It wasn't that long ago, that the state was controlled by Dems.
We had Corruption with a capital C...so bad that many of them went to jail, including a Dem governor.
The corruption was on every level.
Some people said..."It's always been this way. Voting doesn't matter, it won't change anything".
Sound familiar?
Well, many of us said..."Fuck that noise".
We kept on voting, many times for the 'lesser of two evils'.
It took a while, but we now have a state with an R-controlled State House, and an R-governor.
Our Senators and Congressmen are some of the most conservative in the country.
And yet...the Dem-registered voters still outnumber the R-registered ones, here in OK.
So I urge my fellow morons to not get so discouraged, and fall into despair.
Keep voting.
And yes...even if it is for the 'lesser of two evils'.
Because even a lesser evil is better than a greater evil.
And a greater evil is what we have right now.
Posted by: wheatie at June 23, 2013 10:07 PM (mYbV7)
Dude without the fed's games we'd have been properly in Carternomics territory at 12-17% interest and austerity...
yeah itd suck but you know what we'd be on the road to recovery already....
doesn't matter Helicopter Ben devoured our savings' value with his games....
he's another guy who should be down at Col Sanders field in Louisville
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 10:08 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 23, 2013 10:10 PM (MmAnW)
671 So I urge my fellow morons to not get so discouraged, and fall into despair
by voting for ME!!!
send checks, cash, anything
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 23, 2013 10:10 PM (a494b)
wheatie the state of Ohio had a GOP slate to combat fraud...
unused despite several expamples documented of it...
I respect what you're saying at the state level...
I'm telling you this amnesty is a shit bomb and it will destroy the native worker
it makes it 3000 bucks a year cheaper to hire an illegal er "newer better American"
No...time to destroy the GOP if they do this, and I am not kidding and if I start down this path I will not be swayed in 2014.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 10:10 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: wheatie at June 24, 2013 02:07 AM (mYbV7)
Being helped happily by many of the supposed "lesser evil." You only run out to the field when the boy cries "wolf" and their isn't one before you get into the "Fuck it all" mood
Posted by: buzzion at June 23, 2013 10:12 PM (LI48c)
This is going to be one hell of a week.....
wish this Country the best, yet......could be a series of days more foul than the morning of Nov. 7th, 2012.
Can there possibly be a greater stench?
OH YES!
MOST ASUREDLY......
Night-Night Bunker mates,
Going to sleep after I finish my bottle of....(water)
Posted by: Richard at June 23, 2013 10:12 PM (FTU43)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 10:17 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 23, 2013 10:17 PM (MmAnW)
When do we finally realize that the Soetero regime isn't going away anytime soon?
When do we hit Wolf Blitzer in the the mouth?
When do we storm the Bastille?
I want to fight the left wing and DEFEAT them, and I am talking about the so-called "fourth estate".
We don't need the GOP and their old men. The one thing that can bring down the mainstream media is holding the remotes.
Genghis Khan held one branch in his hand and snapped it in two to demonstrate how weak only one man was. Then he held several branches, and could not bend a single branch, demonstrating strength in NUMBERS.
The next Ronald Reagan should be an UNSTOPPABLE candidate that not even the filthy mainstream media could soil. We need a leader NOW.
Posted by: Felix Steiner at June 23, 2013 10:19 PM (6Qipb)
the rebuilding phase is precisely when the character of the people will be tested...
pssst Mero we're being economically enslaved right now...
Ogabe is acting as the nation's financial advisor and brother he wants us overpaying on energy costs, food, and to punish us for the sins of our daddies...
handing him amnesty strike you as the actions of an opposition party?
the Tyranny is here bud.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 10:20 PM (LRFds)
680 Not sure where I ever got the notion I could play guitar.
easy
bands like Britney fox made it in the 80s
if they could play a guitar anyone could
and no, im not linking girls school (and yes, T is in that one)
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 23, 2013 10:20 PM (a494b)
681 The next Ronald Reagan should be an UNSTOPPABLE candidate that not even the filthy mainstream media could soil. We need a leader NOW.
im coming already
gotta start in the house
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 23, 2013 10:22 PM (a494b)
Posted by: Adriane... at June 23, 2013 10:22 PM (Jv4FA)
it ain't whining...the powers that be in the GOP and right leaning pubnditry are not ready to raise hell....
believe me I have dreams about rebutting Chris Tingle with knuckledusters...
not time yet....so the only way to prevent shit like Juan McCain from empowering easy mode in Ogabe's reign may well be to remove his gang by primary or general opponent backing....
better this be an all donkey production than have my party's fingerprints on it at all
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 10:22 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 10:23 PM (8FeS+)
the rebuilding phase will be when freedom loving people will be morally justified in making sure the tyrants reap what they sowed....
our founders fought for 9 years....
I am not afraid of the apathetic's character once their torpor is broken by adveristy that the state cannot fingersnap away making bad decisions....
I'm afraid of the NEA types running out the clock and indoctrinating my grandkids
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 10:26 PM (LRFds)
As they can't win nationally, and Senate-wise its a mixed-bag, I'm not sure simply hoping the House can thwart enough bad things is reason enough for their continued existence.
Besides, if the 2012 rhetoric was accurate, the country is already doomed since the people spouting that lost.
Posted by: Tom In Korea at June 23, 2013 10:26 PM (oJkTX)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 23, 2013 10:28 PM (MmAnW)
Pretty much...there is no issue our Senate delegation will not cave on if able...
we held them on guns because guns and amnesty and probably taxes past "eat duh rich" are our lines...
but Juan McCain is willing to cross the amnesty line b/c it is *his* baby when he is not trying to kill the 1st amendment....
no.....
I am not seeing "we've so much to lose"
I'm seeing "I won't smell like shit when I think of politics b/c I'll be away from the McCain gang"
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 10:29 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 10:29 PM (T1005)
Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 10:32 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 10:38 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 10:42 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 10:47 PM (8FeS+)
Mero the limits on what people on our side do and can do are largely self-imposed....
my grandfather rest his soul taught me "platitudes have a short half-life on an empty belly"
I wonder how charming Me$$iah will be when he can't cut checks?
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 10:47 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 10:49 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 23, 2013 10:50 PM (9GG/0)
I need to pass out...
stop this bill Boehner and I will punish Graham McCain Rubio while still on your reservation...
I'd prefer having a party I feel is worth voting for Mr Speaker....
empower the donks further and I go to plan b
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 23, 2013 10:51 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 24, 2013 02:50 AM (9GG/0)
When we get the "good stuff" from the chemists.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 10:52 PM (T1005)
Posted by: rickl at June 23, 2013 10:54 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 10:55 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 10:55 PM (yoh1c)
A 17 year old high school student is a local legend as a fighter but has never managed to connect with a girl. Unknown to him, a girl from another school, Midori, has been watching him at a train stop and harboring a crush. Seiji is completely unaware of her.
One day, just because, Seiji discovers his right hand has been replaced with a tiny teenage girl. It's Midori. His wrist is merged into her waist. Whether she needs to eat and the problems this represents aren't explored in the first episode.
Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 10:55 PM (kcfmt)
You want to pass a 1200-page "comprehensive" piece of shit? Better schedule 30 40-hour weeks to debate it.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 10:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: RWC at June 23, 2013 10:59 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Adriane... at June 23, 2013 11:03 PM (Jv4FA)
But Hollywood did fine before they ever made a penny from home video. I find it very hard to believe they are in any danger of anything worse than a mild restructuring of their MO. I say MO rather than business model because Hollywood accounting is pretty much a criminal enterprise.
Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 11:06 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 11:10 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 23, 2013 11:24 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Trapperguy at June 23, 2013 11:27 PM (HP4bk)
I spent years arguing against abandoning territory to the opposition, but no one listened, and now it's so bad I may have to run away like they did. Not happy.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 24, 2013 03:10 AM (yoh1c)
I spent 10 years trying to convince my folks to hit the Santa Rosa area -- they dithered until it wasn't possible, then moved to Salem, OR, instead. It's over here. The times that it could work were long ago. My family built 5 houses to pay for college for me and my sister -- you couldn't do that now. We couldn't afford to buy into our own neighborhood -- it's so much of a bubble since 1997 that we jokingly say, "we always wanted to live in a million-dollar home.....but never imagined it would be this one."
Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2013 11:28 PM (T1005)
For that place to be listed for $500K was evidence of a market gone insane.
Posted by: epobirs at June 23, 2013 11:43 PM (kcfmt)
For that place to be listed for $500K was evidence of a market gone insane.
Posted by: epobirs at June 24, 2013 03:43 AM (kcfmt)
EXACTLY!!!! We had a place in Placerita Canyon that we built on 3/4 acre that eventually went for $160K.....and when I search on the area, the last place sold went for $1,030,000. How the hell could a working guy buy a bare property, build a house, and sell it in the $1M space?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 24, 2013 12:02 AM (T1005)
Posted by: backhoe at June 24, 2013 12:22 AM (ULH4o)
Only one is the right answer.
Rebecca de Mornay
Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2013 04:15 AM (hO9ad)
Wrong! Michelle Jenneke -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_9J2oJjjd4
Posted by: cthulhu at June 24, 2013 12:23 AM (T1005)
Secession is the only solution. We can't flee without someplace to flee to and there simply isn't anyplace feasible outside the current US borders. So carving a chunk out of the current carcass is the only way to go. Texas plus any bordering states with a clue would be ideal.
Revolution nation wide is a fool's errand. Most folks want the current bloated government, and most who bothered voting in the last few elections voted for even more. They cannot be reasoned with. So how exactly do you prevent them from doing so again the first time elections are held after the revolution? Ban registered democrats from voting for life? Ban anyone who falls into their grievance groups? I doubt anyone has the stomach for either.
Pretty much any other scheme for working within the system is similarly guaranteed to fail because the FSA outnumbers us.
As there isn't any serious talk of secession, the reality is that we have nothing but a little season to wait before the collapse. At which point no one's plans are going to matter much.
Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2013 12:29 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 24, 2013 12:34 AM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Adriane... at June 24, 2013 12:36 AM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 24, 2013 12:38 AM (jjvz+)
Posted by: jc at June 24, 2013 12:40 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at June 24, 2013 12:45 AM (31Nrp)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 24, 2013 12:45 AM (yoh1c)
I was dead asleep....and then...a nightmare that caused my breath to be sucked clean out of my toenails....
Then I real'd the cause....TMZ!!! those EEFFFIN SCFOAMF boot lickers!!!!
GOD!!!!.. I HATE this modern media and their troll swamp suckers that do lick the boots most daily of the trampsters and death merchants in D.C!!!!!
To ARMS!!!....TO ARMS!!!!
FUCKIN AYE!!!!! I was ASLEEP!!!!
Posted by: Richard at June 24, 2013 01:07 AM (FTU43)
So "waiting for the collapse" is going to take a long time.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 24, 2013 01:08 AM (9GG/0)
How many would stay in Texas if it left the union? And restricted new citizenship status to English speakers? And how many people like me would leave blue state hell in a heartbeat for a chance to live free?
It's hard work or failure,
Hard work at what, exactly? Are you such a fool as to think you can fix any of these wretches through the power of persuasion? Obama voters and those who seek to get along with them are a lost cause, they don't care about being free and never will. And they hate us, to boot. If your plan doesn't ultimately involve liberating us from them, it is no plan at all.
The limits on government power failed because we let too many of the wrong people vote (As has been discussed ad nauseum, there's no excuse for letting people who don't on balance pay into the government have a say on what it does).. There's no way to undo that and keep the country intact. This idea that somehow if we just 'work harder' the situation will improve is a fairy tail. The only choice left is whether we find a way to isolate them and leave them to the rot that is their hearts' desire, or if we keep making excuses for them and join them in oblivion. I think I'm being overly optimistic pretending there's enough time left for even that choice.
Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2013 01:12 AM (hO9ad)
But if you do believe that there is a majority that is persuadable, then start persuading them.
But "waiting for the collapse" is not a plan.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 24, 2013 01:19 AM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 24, 2013 01:19 AM (yoh1c)
Confidence can be lost in a currency without anything being readily available to replace it.
More to the point, if your paper wealth is dependent on my promise to work and pay off a debt to you and I decide it's not worth the effort, you are immediately rendered as poor as I am. See every pension system, the mortgage backed security scheme, and every instance of government 'debt' around the globe.
The collapse will come when people are forced to acknowledge there's nothing supporting their paper promises.
Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2013 01:23 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 24, 2013 01:24 AM (yoh1c)
The point of being the world's reserve currency is that others don't require confidence in the currency, because they are forced to trade in it anyway for global commodities.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 24, 2013 01:30 AM (9GG/0)
But it is all relative to the other currencies out there. The dollar still enjoys the most confidence even if you're right.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 24, 2013 01:33 AM (9GG/0)
"They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!"
Posted by: RWC at June 24, 2013 02:59 AM (8FeS+)"
ISTR that Puller was also quoted as saying that he was going to get a Medal of Honor if it took him a whole foot locker full of dog tags. YMMV but I find the idea of a military commander who was willing to expend the lives of the men who were entrusted to him for his own personal aggrandizement somewhat less than inspiring. It is the sort of thing I would expect from Marshal Zhukov rather than an American general.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at June 24, 2013 01:33 AM (31Nrp)
As utopian as the Founding Fathers. The act of seceding, or in their case revolting, fixes a lot of the problems of general human nature. Everyone that chooses to be part of it already knows the problems they're trying to get away from, which gives you a huge advantage in solving the problem among them. The colonies further benefitted from the self-selection of folks who moved to them to get away from Europe's bullshit.
You'll note they didn't send an expeditionary force to conquer London so we could all remain one big happy country. They said we don't have enough in common to continue our association and we'll take whatever steps you make necessary to convince you of this, good day.
No, I don't expect there are enough freedom loving people left to make it work. So we're all headed for ruin together for whatever that's worth to you. I've been taking a hard line on all the lies and all I have to show for it are fewer friends. It doesn't matter because they don't want to hear the truth.
Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2013 01:38 AM (hO9ad)
So.......(I hate saying So)
Do we wake up in the morning and stroll through our TAB bars
our Fav tabs? News?..More News?....Fox?....Breitbart?...Ace?...Daily Caller?
Jawa? and the such? We all see the writings on the wall!
We all see how we are about to be BETRAYED!
So NOW WHAT?
I fear we will not live up to the "NOW WHAT!"
Uncle "Chuck" ...Petty Officer 1st Class Assault Landing Ship T-243...
Pacific Island Campaign Bougainville to Saipan.....
IN YOUR NAME my dear Uncle...and T.C....my son IRAQ 2003 to the AFGAN 2010......
IN YOUR NAME!!!!
YOU ALL CATCH MY DRIFT????
YOU ALL THINK I'M PISSED???
YOU HAVE NOT A FUCKING CLUE...even those that have known me for the last 7 years here on this site
WAR!!!
Posted by: Richard at June 24, 2013 01:48 AM (FTU43)
We have no territory now. That's the point of ramming amnesty through. And you aren't fighting, you're arguing and being ignored just as I have been. Good luck with that.
But it is all relative to the other currencies out there. The dollar still enjoys the most confidence even if you're right.
No it's relative to the stuff too. If confidence is lost in the dollar, folks can just hold onto the stuff they have.
General confidence in the dollar also doesn't help if we wake up one morning to find our accounts drained like Greece because that's what TPTB insisted needed to be done to maintain the system.
Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2013 01:53 AM (hO9ad)
You give nothing but the appeasement Sauvé that smells so much like something given 68 years ago in a time that we all have should have known better.......
HOLY FUCK!!! History repeats....METHOS???? Are you THAT BLIND????
SLAP MY DICK and TORCH MY BARN!!!!
Must be time to head for the caves and bunkers....serious???
Posted by: Richard at June 24, 2013 02:02 AM (FTU43)
General confidence in the dollar also doesn't help if we wake up one morning to find our accounts drained like Greece because that's what TPTB insisted needed to be done to maintain the system.
Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2013 05:53 AM (hO9ad)
If you really think that this is likely to happen here, then go ahead and pull your money out of the bank now and stuff it under your mattress.
Anyway I'm going to get some rest.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 24, 2013 02:11 AM (9GG/0)
Do not...
Repeat....Do not, give these "M!-F!'er's another day of working without stones flying through their windows....
Time to make the Kitty Sing and chase the Rats from our barns!
Commie Rats are easy to find...RED they be and in the BELTWAY they hide....
Posted by: Richard at June 24, 2013 02:15 AM (FTU43)
The GOP will give us up...
A STAB IN THE BACK for all our support...and the "OLD FUCKS"
will still remain the "OLD FUCKS" because they GOT THEIRS!!
AND FUCK AMERICA!!!....(I want my retirement secured for me and my children)....my Idaho retirement complex....YES!...Do I still have to vote when I retire?....I will still charge for PICTURES taken with me and any of those that wish to have pictures taken with me because I am and ALWAYS WILL BE A GOP BIG SHOT!!!
SO...SUCK MY DICK!!!!
"Where are my EURO BACKED BONDS MAKING MONEY for ME today?
Posted by: Richard at June 24, 2013 02:36 AM (FTU43)
Posted by: Steve at June 24, 2013 02:44 AM (GSwIn)
Serious?
Chicken----Shit---POINT!!
AND not worthy of my further debasing this thread...
You all suck at foreplay and general tractor repair
yet....(ACE STILL KEEPS ME AROUND!)
Sleep with the fishes and cry about the immediate future...
with the JUG-EARS and his "Furry-Beast" wife!
FRANK SINATRA helped me kill commies when I was only 9 years old
Wish HE was here....Wish HE was here!
Posted by: Richard at June 24, 2013 02:55 AM (FTU43)
I was watching re-runs of Duck Dynasty last night and Phil Robertson was extolling the virtues of turpentine for cleaning things to Miss Kay. She told him he would probably like to clean the entire country with turpentine.
He said the country did need cleaning with turpentine, and he would start in Hollywood.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 24, 2013 03:01 AM (GoIUi)
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