June 30, 2013
— Maetenloch
The George Zimmerman Reenactment
Here DMartyr at the Jawa Report does a service to the blogosphere and puts together pertinent videos and diagrams in the Martin case for you to watch and judge for yourself.
This is Zimmerman reenacting for the police his actions on the night of the shooting. Note that this is less than 24 hours after the shooting and his account has never varied from what he told the police that night.
His description is compelling and after watching this I simply cannot comprehend how a prosecutor could bring a case against him in good faith much less a murder charge.
Another thing that become clear from the video and diagrams is that is a relatively compact neighborhood and everything took place in a small area. So Trayvon Martin must have gone home first and then returned to confront Zimmerman.
Go here to see it all.
The Strange Case Of Paula Deen
So as I understand it Paula Deen admitted at a deposition that she has used the N-word during the past 30 years and so she's been branded a racist and is being treated like a carrier of race crime who might infect anyone she comes too close to. She's been fired by the Food Channel and nearly all of her sponsors. Even though her next cookbook is already #1 on Amazon just through pre-sales her publisher just dropped her - essentially throwing away millions of dollars of sales.
I've never watched her show or followed her but this just seems...well insane. Often when you see a shunning cascade of someone over what seems to be a minor offense it's because they're a nasty person and people are just using the incident as an excuse to get rid of them. But as best I can tell this isn't the case with Deen. Charlotte Hays at NRO says Deen's biggest crime is being Paula Deen, a large white Southern woman who violates all the norms of the elite:
Paula Deen isn't really on trial for using the N-word. She's on trial for the crime of being Paula Deen, a woman who cooks with lard (yum!), shows up for the Today Show wreathed in tears and garbed in an inappropriately girlish hue of pink, and says unfortunate things such as "I is who I is."
And Bill Burr weighs in on the whole Deen affair.
Glenn Greenwald, the First Amendment, and Espionage
Before taking the job in Hawaii, Mr. Snowden was in contact with people who would later help arrange the publication of the material he purloined. Two of these individuals, filmmaker Laura Poitras and Guardian blogger Glenn Greenwald, were on the Board of the Freedom of the Press Foundation that, among other things, funds WikiLeaks.In January 2013, according to the Washington Post, Mr. Snowden requested that Ms. Poitras get an encryption key for Skype so that they could have a secure channel over which to communicate.
In February, he made a similar request to Mr. Greenwald, providing him with a step-by-step video on how to set up encrypted communications.
So, before Mr. Snowden proceeded with his NSA penetration in March 2013 through his Booz Allen Hamilton job, he had assistance, either wittingly or unwittingly, in arranging the secure channel of encrypted communications that he would use to facilitate the publication of classified communications intelligence.
If Greenwald was talking with Snowden and helped setup encrypted channels before he joined Booz Allen in order for Snowden to pass secrets back to him, why wouldn't he be considered a co-conspirator? Is the title 'journalist' a license to run your own spy rings against the government and publish whatever you can uncover?
Jimmy Carter: Christianity Mistreats Women as Much as Islam
In citing more inequalities for women around the globe, Carter said that, in Saudi Arabia, women are not permitted to drive or vote; that, in some cultures, girls are forced to marry before their tenth birthdays; and that, in the United States, women are paid about 70 percent of what men earn for the same work.
"The point is that the voices demanding these circumstances change are few and far between," Carter said.
Oh Jimmy haven't you done enough for one lifetime.
Captured alive in Afghanistan yesterday.
English Defence League Leaders Arrested for Walking Where Drummer Lee Rigby Was Killed
Because that might upset local Muslims.
In a statement posted on the EDL's Twitter feed, the group said: 'Tommy Robinson & Kev Caroll arrested for obstructing the police and carted off.' Scotland Yard yesterday said it was imposing conditions due to fears that both the march and gathering would 'result in serious public disorder and serious disruption to the life of the community' and a breach of the conditions would be a criminal offence.
Also Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer have banned from entering Britain because this might upset local Muslims.
Taylor Swift: Fornicating Whore
The Westboro Church finally gets around to heterosexual sin:
Yes, that's right: THE WHORISH FACE OF DOOMED AMERICA, the pop-country star formerly known as Taylor Swift, has been guilty of "hopping from one young man to the next and strutting across the world stage like a proud whore," according to the WBC press release.
A High Resolution View Inside the B-52
A fascinating mix of high and low tech.
The Amazing Falling Bead Experiment
Granted it was a heart attack but it sure couldn't have helped anyone's snake fear.
A German snake expert died after being bitten multiple times by a viper during a presentation aimed at helping people ease their fears of the scaly reptiles. Dieter Zorn, a 53-year-old herpetologist, died Tuesday evening of a heart attack minutes after he was bitten by an Aspic viper, according to Germany's English-language newspaper The Local.
Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings
Top 10 commenters:
1 [857 comments] 'Esteban10077@sven10077' [120.33 posts/day]
2 [542 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)'
3 [522 comments] 'Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016'
4 [496 comments] 'Jane D'oh'
5 [463 comments] 'Niedermeyer's Dead Horse'
6 [429 comments] 'J.J. Sefton'
7 [426 comments] 'logprof'
8 [425 comments] 'Vic'
9 [418 comments] 'AllenG (Dedicated Tenther)'
10 [414 comments] 'BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk'
Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [70 names] 'The Political Hat' [9.83 unique names/day]
2 [59 names] 'logprof'
3 [57 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
4 [43 names] 'Islamic Rage Boy'
5 [36 names] 'kbdabear'
6 [34 names] 'toby928? for TB'
7 [34 names] 'Romeo13'
8 [32 names] 'RiverC'
9 [32 names] 'The Chicken'
10 [24 names] 'Adam'
The group. Yeah.
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Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 05:42 PM (FlRtG)
ordered (or pressured) to do so by the Obama 'Justice' Department
(for political reasons)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 30, 2013 05:42 PM (7c2XN)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 05:43 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Yours truly Cindy Sheehan at June 30, 2013 05:44 PM (u6lBN)
Made an off hand remark about Mrs President's appetite
and provoked the full fury of retribution and destruction
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 30, 2013 05:44 PM (7c2XN)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 05:46 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 30, 2013 05:47 PM (jpUgO)
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 05:47 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2013 05:47 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 30, 2013 05:47 PM (7c2XN)
Posted by: angel with a sword at June 30, 2013 05:48 PM (2y8mE)
Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 05:49 PM (KiyII)
"The time draws near to teach this usurper and charlatan the lesson our forefathers taught King George III. We will not be ruled by arrogance and edict."
-Allen West
Posted by: Albie Damned at June 30, 2013 05:49 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 05:49 PM (sdi6R)
How can America be saved from this and outrage where can I find high-resolution video?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 30, 2013 05:49 PM (jpUgO)
Posted by: Andy at June 30, 2013 05:50 PM (Hw3Gh)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2013 05:51 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 05:51 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2013 05:52 PM (JMmQ9)
Absolutely false.
Posted by: Andy at June 30, 2013 09:50 PM (Hw3Gh)
They will never let that lie go.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 05:52 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at June 30, 2013 05:52 PM (D8tPj)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 05:52 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 05:53 PM (XIxXP)
Not looking forward to the riots, and given the weirdness of Florida juries, anything's possible, but I can't see in a sane world how any reasonable person finds Zimmerman guilty of 2nd degree murder under those circumstances.
Posted by: Palandine[/i] at June 30, 2013 05:54 PM (aBOpX)
Posted by: Cheri at June 30, 2013 05:54 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 05:55 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Baron bon Mot at June 30, 2013 05:55 PM (0jdJA)
Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat at June 30, 2013 05:55 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: CDR M at June 30, 2013 05:55 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at June 30, 2013 05:55 PM (1hekh)
Savannah’s celebrity chef has been lynched — figuratively and publicly in the court of public opinion, and without a full and fair accounting of the facts. Why? Mostly because this 66-year-old woman who impressively built an empire from scratch said “no” to the equivalent of a shakedown.
When Deen refused to pay $1.25 million in hush money last year to a former employee of her brother’s restaurant — a white woman who claimed, among other things, that Deen’s brother was guilty of racial discrimination — the lynch mob began forming.
“Exposure of the racist and sexist culture of her corporate and personal life is going to permanently, and irreparably, damage the value of the brand,” Savannah attorney S. Wesley Woolf warned in a Jan. 31, 2012, demand letter to Deen’s lawyer. He stated that “if we are unable to settle, the Complaint will not be quietly filed. I am making arrangements for a press conference on the day of the filing. I have identified the journalist for the New York Times who covers civil rights matters and he will be provided a pre-filing exclusive. A nationwide press release will be issued to the major networks, newspapers, newsmagazines and news websites across the country.”
And finally, the closer: “I hope that upon full and deliberate consideration of this offer, (your clients) will come to understand that the small price they quietly pay and that my client quietly accepts will allow Paula Deen a chance to salvage a brand that can continue to have value.”
Woolf was a hangman of his word. Except for one thing. The Times didnÂ’t break the June 19 story about Deen using the N-word. The National Enquirer did. Still, the illusion of the First Lady of Southern Cooking as an unreconstructed bigot spread faster than grease on a hot griddle.
Today, the celebrity chef that Forbes said earned $18 million in 2012 is being hung out to dry financially. To add insult to injury, the woman behind the lawsuit, Lisa T. Jackson, admitted that she never heard Deen make a racist remark. Or, do anything discriminatory. But when you’ve threatened to inflict “permanent” harm on someone, facts don’t matter. It’s about whipping a mob into a frenzy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 05:55 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 05:56 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 05:56 PM (s/TCI)
32 The diagram that shows the events of the Martin shooting are pretty damning of the prosecution case, and the race hustlers. The prosecutors and the family are trying to make out that Trayvon Martin was a terrified child, hunted down and murdered in cold blood by a white hispanic. The diagram clearly shows that if Mr. Martin, who towered over Mr. Zimmerman, was afraid, he could have ran into his father's home, where he already was, and called the authorities on the "crazy ass cr@cker" he was talking to his girlfriend about. Instead, in sight of the safety of his own home, he doubles back, in the rain, to beat the crap out of Zimmerman, who is then forced into an act of self defense to save his life.
And yet some will claim that since Zimmerman got out of his car he was seeking a confrontation.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 05:56 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 05:57 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 30, 2013 05:58 PM (QTHTd)
So, if anyone asks you if you've ever in your life used the 'N'-word, you better say NO, even if you have, and even if you're under oath.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 30, 2013 05:58 PM (CNfUp)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 09:56 PM
It sounds like those people want their country back from the Muslims and Muslim enablers. You're right.
Posted by: huerfano at June 30, 2013 05:58 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat at June 30, 2013 09:55 PM (Vk2pI)
Yeah its kind of interesting. They say they age the beer on the blueberries and use a type of hops to add a bit of citrusy flavor.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 05:58 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 05:58 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Sean Connery at June 30, 2013 05:59 PM (y6Cei)
Posted by: Josip Broz Tito at June 30, 2013 05:59 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 05:59 PM (KiyII)
This officer was a Marine combat vet who had just returned from a tour in Afghanistan and two other tours in Iraq.
I'm shocked as hell that NBC even reported this. But lets all mourn little lamb Trayvon and fight the White, evil racist Zimmerman.
Posted by: Cheri at June 30, 2013 05:59 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2013 05:59 PM (zKW6C)
He says that holding the beaker up higher makes the arc higher because the beads are going faster. I say that's because there's a column of beads supporting the arc with a more powerful ground-hitting backwave.
I figure I'm right, because there is visibly no arc until the things hit the ground. Easy to test -- let the beads down from a really high balcony, and see if you get an arc before anything touches ground. Bet you don't.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 05:59 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 06:00 PM (KiyII)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:00 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: tin foil hat at June 30, 2013 06:00 PM (V+Pei)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2013 06:00 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 06:01 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 06:01 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:01 PM (GEICT)
or get rid of one or more of my PCs
or not rig up my android, bluetooth, and mike...
or
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 30, 2013 06:01 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 30, 2013 06:02 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: NYC Parent at June 30, 2013 06:02 PM (pN52h)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2013 06:02 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 30, 2013 09:47 PM (7c2XN)
I've never heard of any addons before. Are you talking about these?http://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/fsx/
Do they work good?
Posted by: slatz at June 30, 2013 06:02 PM (PIOWA)
Looked back one thread to see what this was about, and all I saw was a clarion call to cigar lovers. Would have responded if I had seen it -- actually, I was just wondering whether I should go outside with a nice Ashton VSG Enchantment and track this thread on the iPad.
But it didn't illuminate the "other cigar" thing at all, leaving me with the same impression as others: "Are you Bill Clinton, and can she fit another one up there"
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:03 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:03 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 06:03 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 06:04 PM (jIaZt)
honorary sockpuppeteer this week
I may not be loved for my poetry
But someone somewhere will be annoyed by my sockpuppeting.
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 06:04 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: azjaeger at June 30, 2013 06:04 PM (niWgN)
Posted by: Some Moron at June 30, 2013 06:05 PM (zPVBH)
You make a good case for the existence of Progressives. But I'd still rather cajole them out of their delusions with facts.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:05 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: tin foil hat at June 30, 2013 06:05 PM (V+Pei)
sockpuppetry denotes if not talent and creativity at a minimum varianced...
top ten posting mostly denotes an unquiet mind
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 30, 2013 06:05 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 06:05 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 09:48 PM (T1005)
Go back outside and try it again. I want an "aloha" out of you, damnit.
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 09:56 PM (jIaZt)
I try to change 'em up a bit, to keep from being stale.....but if you insist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEL4i9Gqlgg
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 06:05 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:06 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:06 PM (XIxXP)
I like that smoke. Fire it up.
Different topic:
I move that we all stay here on the ONT where we belong, and boycott whatever weirdness CAC posted.
All in favor, say "Aye"
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 10:04 PM (jIaZt)
This thread will eventually play leap frog.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 06:06 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Your Phone at June 30, 2013 06:06 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 06:07 PM (57bzg)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:07 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Zombie Tray at June 30, 2013 06:07 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:07 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2013 06:08 PM (c28BI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:08 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: azjaeger at June 30, 2013 10:04 PM (niWgN)
They have actually been doing the weather part for a while here. They struck a deal with the NWS to broadcast a 90-character text message-like thing. They recently added the other alerts. It's supposed to be a mobile EAS Alert system.
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at June 30, 2013 06:08 PM (1hekh)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 06:08 PM (jIaZt)
Ann Coulter, who I normally don't care much for, had a really good column a few years back about the South producing America's Warrior Class.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 30, 2013 06:08 PM (U22Yw)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 30, 2013 06:08 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: slatz at June 30, 2013 10:02 PM (PIOWA)
I have one for the P51 Mustang that I enjoy. Haven't tried the others.
(fearful of contracting some unexpected contamination from the free ones, and too miserly to spent money.)
You can get just about everything now. Jetliners, MiGs, fighters (old and new)
there is even one for the space shuttle that I could never and I mean *never* figure out.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 30, 2013 06:09 PM (7c2XN)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 06:09 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 06:09 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2013 06:09 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:10 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Some Jihadi at June 30, 2013 06:10 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Baron bon Mot at June 30, 2013 06:10 PM (0jdJA)
Yup....
He can't fix an economy, deliver on BarryCare's promises or premise but by Jesus Barack Obama is YOUR life coach....
I'm hoping someone files a restraining order on his Royal SCOAMF
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 30, 2013 06:11 PM (LRFds)
If you do not have a humidor, smoke it or protect it (depending on your climate; if you're in Louisiana, for example, do not worry). My humidor is a 48Qt Igloo cooler with a couple of humidification devices I got free with a cigar order. But some florists' "wet foam" in some sort of enclosure would do fine.
I knew the Macanudo would be good.
Macanudo is really consistent, great construction. They often lack that last little bit of character, but I have not tried the new Maduros, and the Vintage are amazing.
I'm curious about this one. La Gloria Cubana Serie R.
Good stuff. But almost all La Glorias are much better if you can forget about them in your Igloo humidor for at least a year; they tend to be a bit raw when first purchased. (um, did I mention that cigars age? They do.)
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:11 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 06:11 PM (KiyII)
- Othello is President Obama.
- Iago is H.Larry Clinton
- Hamlet is Snowden
- Horatio is Greenwald
- Falstaff is Bill Clinton
- Prospero is Glenn Beck
- Don John is Keith Alexander
- Don Pedro is Dick Morris
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 06:11 PM (KTytI)
There are only 3 working days till the 4th so...mas tequila y uno mas cigar.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 10:07 PM (57bzg)
Oh, have I told you how much I love crotchety Jarheads? *kiss*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 06:11 PM (lVPtV)
Any other, and in fact EVERY OTHER path by Martin would have avoided Zimmerman ... but he took the only path to Zimmerman.
Martin's intentions are clear ...
Posted by: Arbalest
Well, Zimmeman was carrying a beacon (small flashlight) to indicate his position.
Posted by: Obamao at June 30, 2013 06:11 PM (e+pdj)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:11 PM (XIxXP)
I finally got an opportunity to poke around here today, and just added the comments below to the Sanderson post from earlier today. I'm cross-commenting here for those who might be interested.
Sanderson is an *extremely* prolific writer. He's got two YA novels out this year, one short novel (The Emperor's Soul) published at the start of the year, and the sequel to The Way of Kings due out this Fall. I think I've read pretty much all of his adult novels. They're all tied together in a shared universe called "The Cosmere". They all take place on different worlds, but they all have certain rough rules that work across all of the settings. It's worth noting that the magic systems are *not* among the shared items. There's an individual named "Hoid" that's popped up in all of his Cosmere books, and Sanderson has confirmed that it's the same character. How and why he's turning up in multiple books on completely different worlds is still unknown (he's the missing fool in "The Emperor's Soul").
Sanderson's adult novel settings are -
Mistborn - His breakout trilogy. A sequel set a few hundred years later entitled "Alloy of Law" was published last year. In the sequel, technology has (amazingly enough in a Fantasy setting) advanced right along, with guns, trains, and a combination of the Wild West and Victorian England. Alloy of Law was supposed to be a stand-alone book, but will apparently get a sequel of its own, Shadow of Self. Alloy is meant as a bridge novel to a new trilogy set in the Mistborn world after time has advanced to bring the world's technology up to more or less modern standards.
Elantris - One novel so far, although he's apparently working on a sequel. Probably my least favorite of his novels. His short novel, "The Emperor's Soul", is apparently set on a different part of the same world as Elantris. Unlike Elantris, I really like The Emperor's Soul.
Warbreaker - One novel so far, but with a definite sequel hook at the end. This novel is available for free on Sanderson's website. I personally loved it, but I've no idea when he's getting back to it.
The Way of Kings - Part 1 of a planned series of 10 novels, with a world that's unusual in just how alien it is (Fantasy settings generally stick with an Earth-like environment). As noted above, there are multiple threads running through this novel, with multiple viewpoint characters. And Bad Things(tm) are about to start happening. Novel #2, Words of Radiance, is due out this Fall.
He's also got a few YA novels/series. The Rithmatist is a just released YA novel that involves a magic system revolving around chalk art. Steelheart is a soon to be released (I think) YA novel about superheroes gone bad. Alcatraz is a series of YA novels, but unfortunately I don't know anything about them. I think Steelheart is supposed to be part of the Cosmere, but the other YA novels are separate.
Posted by: junior at June 30, 2013 06:11 PM (Quo7C)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 30, 2013 06:12 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Reggie Love at June 30, 2013 06:12 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: The Kyriarchical Hat at June 30, 2013 06:12 PM (Vk2pI)
1) use a tablet if disciplined enough with a better voice recog than Bing...
2) do NOT do it in heavy traffic or while sky diving
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 30, 2013 06:12 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at June 30, 2013 06:12 PM (9bMee)
Oh. Well, now you're doing a taste test, so go for it.
If you decide not to, and your local humidity is below 50%, lightly moisten a paper towel and stick it in the bag if the cigar is wrapped, or in an outer bag, not touching the cigar, if it is not.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:13 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Reggie Love at June 30, 2013 06:13 PM (fOFYL)
Thanks. Is there a better site than the one I linked? Maybe I'll look through them and try one.
Posted by: slatz at June 30, 2013 06:13 PM (PIOWA)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2013 06:13 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 30, 2013 06:13 PM (aDwsi)
Yeah, martyrdom can be a bitch sometimes.
Posted by: Rachel Corrie, Now Featured in The Road to Gaza City at June 30, 2013 06:13 PM (jpUgO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:14 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2013 06:14 PM (qyfb5)
No, I don't believe that. I think George Zimmerman was mostly a naive idealist. In some ways he and Martin were mirror images of one another.
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 30, 2013 06:14 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 30, 2013 06:15 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 06:15 PM (57bzg)
http://tinyurl.com/mzznf88
Jeez Louise. Are we paying for Barry's fucking Boy Toy's travel, too?
*rage meter engaged*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 06:15 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Barry Soetoro at June 30, 2013 06:15 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Sean Connery at June 30, 2013 06:16 PM (y6Cei)
Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2013 06:16 PM (c28BI)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 06:16 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Voice No. 78 in The Political Hat's head at June 30, 2013 06:16 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:16 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 06:16 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 06:16 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:16 PM (XIxXP)
If Carter was a Republican, the Left would accuse him of becoming rich by poisoning the children who have peanut allergies.
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At least then, no one would take him seriously.
Posted by: junior at June 30, 2013 06:17 PM (Quo7C)
I keep my house very cool. 72-74.
And, no doubt, dry, air conditioning being a very effective dehumidifier. Go for the paper towel, or just smoke the thing.
Florida. I guess I should mention, in case you're considering just leaving it outside, that there's some high temperature at which some sort of worm that likes to lay its eggs in tobacco leaves, hatches. People in some climates get really good at spotting the characteristic holes in their cigars. So better to keep them inside, and give them some humidity.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:17 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at June 30, 2013 06:18 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:18 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at June 30, 2013 10:18 PM (baL2B)
Heh. Yer killin' me, Christy. But I'd go lower...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 06:19 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at June 30, 2013 10:12 PM
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Even as a little kid, I cried when I saw the movie. Haven't seen it since. Will be looking for it now.
Posted by: Craig Poe at June 30, 2013 06:19 PM (BVkEs)
I haven't done much with flight sim, and my paranoia about downloads is probably over wrought.
I can't give you any 'brand name' suggestions, sorry. not an expert
hang around the pilot web sites and sooner or later there will be a thread, or something in the archives.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 30, 2013 06:19 PM (7c2XN)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 06:19 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 06:19 PM (57bzg)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 30, 2013 06:19 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2013 06:19 PM (c28BI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:19 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 06:20 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler at June 30, 2013 06:20 PM (y6Cei)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 30, 2013 06:21 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Avi at June 30, 2013 06:21 PM (iprxM)
Yes, the lying is the point. I think people are usually pretty tolerant of uneducated people, even stupid people, if they are honest, and honestly making an effort. It wasn't lack of education or intelligence that put people off of Jeantel. It was dishonesty and dissembling.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:21 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 06:21 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:21 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2013 06:21 PM (c28BI)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2013 06:21 PM (qyfb5)
Crowd seemed smaller that recent gun shows. Firearms availability and prices were better than a few months ago, but not back to pre-election levels. Ammunition in most calibers was available, except for .22LR. Better selection of reloading components than earlier in the year, but limited powder types available, in particular rifle powders. Seemed to be plenty of pistol power.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 30, 2013 06:22 PM (CNfUp)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 06:22 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:22 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: The Left at June 30, 2013 06:22 PM (zPVBH)
Wise. And if you have the tequila handy, you'll be covered for germs as well, in case the thighs of the maidens against which they roll the cigars are not as fresh as we've all been led to believe.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:23 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:23 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2013 06:23 PM (c28BI)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 30, 2013 10:21 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler at June 30, 2013 06:23 PM (y6Cei)
*rage meter engaged*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 10:15 PM (lVPtV)
Well jeez, he's the President. You can't expect him to suck some strange aids filled african pecker.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 10:16 PM (XIxXP)
Damn thats funny shit. lol
Posted by: Berserker at June 30, 2013 06:23 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 06:23 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2013 06:23 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 06:24 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: Ktgreat: assho at June 30, 2013 06:24 PM (49tRP)
Posted by: Michelle Obama at June 30, 2013 06:24 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 06:24 PM (jIaZt)
I'm really digging this Cabo Wabo. None of the harshness I've come to expect with tequila.
Which type of the Cabo Wabo did you get?
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 06:25 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2013 06:25 PM (c28BI)
BC- I don't know about mixing Mexican jumping juice with pickle brine. But substituting a cold pickle for a lemon might be a worthy endeavour.
Report on my desk in the morning. Dismissed.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 30, 2013 06:25 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:25 PM (GEICT)
Poor little Paula, my ass.
Posted by: tcn at June 30, 2013 06:26 PM (RnmNY)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at June 30, 2013 06:26 PM (9bMee)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:26 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: JohnLocke at June 30, 2013 06:27 PM (AeqWm)
Sammy is tha man.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 10:23 PM (XIxXP)
The Red Rocker!!!
They've had him on Bob and Tom several times. They have called him "The nicest guy in Rock n Roll" several times.
The other thing one of the guys on the show has said is "I've met David Lee Roth, I've met Sammy Hagaar... Eddie Van Halen must be a Dick!"
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 06:28 PM (LI48c)
Maybe the ACLU even subsidizes the church.
Posted by: Avi at June 30, 2013 10:21 PM (iprxM)
--The founder, Fred Phelps, is a Democrat. I think the WBC exists to provide a cartoon church to tar the 99% of churches that are legit and not crazy.
Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 10:24 PM (fOFYL)
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^^^THIS^^^
I've always said these left wing radicals knew exactly what they were doing when they started this "church".
Posted by: Craig Poe at June 30, 2013 06:28 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: tcn at June 30, 2013 10:26 PM (RnmNY)
Sorry, but that would include Obamabot Zimmerman too. So screw him, right?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 06:28 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:28 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:28 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 06:28 PM (57bzg)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2013 06:29 PM (qyfb5)
--The founder, Fred Phelps, is a Democrat. I think the WBC exists to provide a cartoon church to tar the 99% of churches that are legit and not crazy.
Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 10:24 PM (fOFYL)
Actually, they are just a bunch of lawyers trying to provoke people into something they can sue them for, and then rake in the bucks. IIRC, Fred Phelps requires all his children and grandchildren to go to law school, and if they don't, they have to marry a lawyer. It's just another shakedown scam, along the lines of race hustling, only this one is tax-exempt, mostly on the say-so of Phelps.
And they are going to burn in hell, so they have that going for them, too.
Posted by: tcn at June 30, 2013 06:29 PM (RnmNY)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 06:29 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:30 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 30, 2013 10:29 PM (qyfb5)
I expect it wouldn't feel that way if you were Paula Deen.
Posted by: tcn at June 30, 2013 06:30 PM (RnmNY)
Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2013 06:30 PM (c28BI)
That's Afghanistan story was written by an idiot, but it still makes me happy. Good to see the ANA stepping up. Can we go home and leave it to them now?
Posted by: Bomber at June 30, 2013 06:31 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 10:28 PM (57bzg)
That's retarded. Sirrrrrr.
Posted by: Diamond Gurl at June 30, 2013 06:31 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:31 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 06:31 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 10:25 PM (LI48c)
Blanco.
[/i] I do think that is the type I did have. If its their only clear tequila then it definitely was.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 06:31 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2013 06:31 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: NSA at June 30, 2013 06:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Craig Poe at June 30, 2013 06:32 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 10:28 PM (lVPtV)
Not quite. I don't recall Zimmerman calling anyone a n-word, nor do I recall him having more money that God.
No, they shouldn't go after Paula with such a vengeance, but neither does she shake my give-a-damn meter, since it is clear she will land on her feet.
Zimmerman going to jail? Not likely, but what he has gone through was no fault of his whatsoever. And he is going to have to sue to get any satisfaction.
Posted by: tcn at June 30, 2013 06:32 PM (RnmNY)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:33 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: NSA at June 30, 2013 10:32 PM (MMC8r)
Hope you enjoyed the fun my husband and son had talking shit about your boss tonight on Skype. For your benefit.
Posted by: Diamond Gurl at June 30, 2013 06:33 PM (lVPtV)
I would have to just make up stupid crap like Joe Biden does.
Posted by: Big Ben at June 30, 2013 06:33 PM (I5Htn)
Yum. A sipping tequila, very smooth. Like scotch, almost.
Next morning, though, felt like tequila.
Anejo, right? They do taste awesome, and they hurt bad the next day. Having learned that lesson, I mostly stick to the Blancos, although a bit of Reposado in a margarita really gives it some extra character.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:34 PM (bKA83)
I am determined, among my many habits, quirks, and hobbies left undone to begin having tea ala Downton Abbey on a regular basis. I am almost ready, with stuff arriving momentarily or maybe weeks from now on the tea ship from the UK. Reading on how to brew the perfect cup in teapot, as I mostly use ye olde teabag. Directions:Warm teapot with hot water, pour boiling water (not too boiling! Not over milk! Over milk if you want milk!ack) over measured tea in warmed pot. Steep 2 min or directed. Filter through strainer into china cup. Add sugar or booze (ok, added that last part). I have even ordered sugar cubes and a tong (not to be confused with bong, boys). Ok, wunderbar. Directions shrill not to leave too long or bitterness and suicide result. Ok.
So: along with the milk/not milk in cup question: "If you leave it too long in pot, but cannot serve all the tea, huh?" Won't that result in the dreaded bitterness? Thank goodness I have not ordered a "cosie" thing as what is the point? This question does not need to be answered as if I start making cosies I will know the camp is not far off in my future in one way or 'nuther.
I suppose I have to be exact, children, which I am not tres good at doing as it might require patience and math and measure. But if I want two cups, make two cups. then the one left in pot will become bitter and suicidal. What to do? I am thinking of unorthodox measures, for more than one person in my busy social calendar, of just brewing in quart measuring cup for allotted time and pouring through filter in fancym warmed teapot and, walla! Won't have to sweat the small stuff #ChristyistryingnottothinkaboutBarky&WWIII
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at June 30, 2013 06:34 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:35 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Bill R. at June 30, 2013 06:36 PM (QnRSM)
There were plenty of warnings before the current President was elected.
America opted not to heed them.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 30, 2013 06:36 PM (gqT4g)
Leave rambling idiocy to the pros...
Sven J Olafson/Joey "Plugz" Biden together again for the first time in
Waiter There's a Trombone in My Caucus
Sigh Ms10077 is not amused that Sven was a busy boy
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 30, 2013 06:36 PM (LRFds)
>>> What's the most peculiar CD you still have from way back?
Sinister Dane's self-made EP
On Cassette.
I bought it when they opened for Living Colour in 1988, I think. Good old fashioned hardcore. Good stuff.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2013 06:37 PM (zKW6C)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2013 06:37 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:37 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at June 30, 2013 06:38 PM (9bMee)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 06:38 PM (57bzg)
Posted by: Taylor Swift at June 30, 2013 06:39 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 06:39 PM (jIaZt)
BURN THE HERETIC
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 10:23 PM (jIaZt)
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Oh come on,even Barry likes pickles. Downright unamerikan to not like the pickle.
Posted by: reggieinSA at June 30, 2013 06:39 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:39 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Admiral Layton at June 30, 2013 06:39 PM (Jsiw/)
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My favorite by Living Colour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V5VkMqM07s
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 30, 2013 06:39 PM (4Mv1T)
1) How 'bout them Buccos? (best record in MLB at this point in Teh Season) Aren't any of the morons willing to admit to being Pirates fans?
2) MOAR KITTEHS!!!
Posted by: Basement Cat at June 30, 2013 06:41 PM (Ezypx)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:41 PM (GEICT)
All those questions and dilemmas that follow are Mrs. Patmore's problem. You need only ring for another pot of fresh tea.
Posted by: Retread at June 30, 2013 06:41 PM (Oz+LZ)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:41 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Taylor Swift's Gynecologist at June 30, 2013 06:42 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at June 30, 2013 06:42 PM (ial2b)
Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 06:42 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:42 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:43 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 06:43 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 06:43 PM (KTytI)
I think it will be a tack driver once the scope is not just "sitting" on top of the receiver like it was at the range yesterday.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 30, 2013 06:44 PM (4Mv1T)
(Looks around carefully, grips man card as a precaution against confiscation)
I enjoy tea.
I suppose I have to be exact, children, which I am not tres good at doing as it might require patience and math and measure. But if I want two cups, make two cups. then the one left in pot will become bitter and suicidal. What to do?
Just pour in one cup of water, but only let it steep about 1/3 of the prescribed time. Then pour your tea and enjoy it. When you're done, pour in the other cup of water and let it steep for maybe 2/3 of the prescribed time, the leaves having given up some of their essence by now, pour.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:44 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 10:28 PM (lVPtV)
Actually, I'd like to know if he has any seconds thoughts about his Obama vote.
If the answer is he'd still pull the lever for TFG, then we'll know it's over and we can all just quit pretending there's any hope for the country.Posted by: Some Guy at June 30, 2013 06:44 PM (uPbpg)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:44 PM (XIxXP)
When those buttfuckers came around that corner and saw 20,000+ of their cousins hanging in midair on posts up their asses they saw what payback looks like and what they could expect of me if they fucked with me again. They turned around and ran home with their tails between their legs.
They look at Obama and see someone who wants the US and himself to be ass-raped and they act accordingly.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler at June 30, 2013 06:45 PM (y6Cei)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:45 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Adam at June 30, 2013 06:45 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 06:46 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: Bomber at June 30, 2013 06:46 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 06:46 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: The Orb of Vengence at June 30, 2013 06:47 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 06:47 PM (aB+tO)
Excel or csv?
Posted by: NSA at June 30, 2013 06:47 PM (uPbpg)
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 06:47 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:47 PM (XIxXP)
No wondering here. As I have noted repeatedly before, the GOP is making a huge mistake if it views "Hispanics" as comprising any sort of a monolithic entity. They are not. There are huge internal schisms.
Where I live, Hispanics are absolutely overwhelmingly likely to be Mexican. Which is also pretty much the case now in most of the country.
Their worldview is pretty simple. If you're not Mexican, you don't count. If you're Mexican, you might or might not count, depending on where you're from. (Do *not* get anywhere near, say, a weekend night dustup between Sinaloa and Michoacan. I thought it had rained in the parking lot. It had not. It was human blood. Puddles of it. Everywhere.)
I hear people talking up Ted Cruz to "appeal to the Hispanic vote". Bullshit. Sorry. I am a massive Ted-head, but Cruz is of Cuban descent. A Mexican does not give a shit about a Cuban.
Zimmerman's "Hispanic" side is Peruvian. There just are not that many Peruvian "Hispanics" in this country. Mostly it's Mexicans. And a Mexican does not give a shit about a Peruvian.
Better start studying up on this shit. This is the country we live in now. Balkanized as all get out. With most of it not liking the rest of it. In fact, really, African Americans are close to being the *only* close to overwhelmingly politically unified ethnic bloc there is.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 30, 2013 06:47 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Ktgreat: assho at June 30, 2013 06:48 PM (49tRP)
They probably kicked him out. Even those guys have a limit. Of course they welcomed Al Gore, but you have to have some sympathy for the disabled.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:48 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:48 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BornLib at June 30, 2013 06:49 PM (zpNwC)
Posted by: Marv Albert at June 30, 2013 06:50 PM (FcR7P)
--Maureen Tucker, former drummer for The Velvet Underground, now very active in the Tea Party.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 30, 2013 06:50 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 06:50 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 06:50 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 06:50 PM (KiyII)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 30, 2013 06:51 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 06:51 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 06:51 PM (57bzg)
THIS!!!
Posted by: t-dubya-d at June 30, 2013 06:52 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Marv Albert at June 30, 2013 10:50 PM (FcR7P)
Biting, Marv. Really biting.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 06:52 PM (bKA83)
One of my kittehs dropped a catnip-stuffed toy (just a cloth pillow filled with 'nip) in the water bowl last week-- I didn't notice it until I saw a) some very happy kittehs rolling on the floor with an obvious buzz; and 2) the catnip toy in a bowl of tea-colored water. So yeah, it isn't just humans that like herbal tea.
Posted by: Basement Cat at June 30, 2013 06:52 PM (Ezypx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 06:52 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: Admiral Layton at June 30, 2013 06:52 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 06:53 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 06:54 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2013 06:54 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:54 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:55 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: ALH at June 30, 2013 06:55 PM (2LTPq)
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It is a question of frequency vs. amplitude
Posted by: Barney Fwank at June 30, 2013 06:55 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 06:56 PM (57bzg)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 06:56 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 06:56 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 06:56 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 06:57 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 10:43 PM (fOFYL)
Yes. Johnny Depp is playing Jack Sparrow in Redface. And its pretty pathetic that the sidekick is the one getting the top billing for the movie.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 06:57 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 06:57 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 06:58 PM (Z9EHQ)
Just pour in one cup of water, but only let it steep about 1/3 of the prescribed time. Then pour your tea and enjoy it. When you're done, pour in the other cup of water and let it steep for maybe 2/3 of the prescribed time, the leaves having given up some of their essence by now, pour.
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 10:44 PM (bKA83)
Thank you! This makes sense. Somehow I missed how to do this growing up, as the tea just appeared like a miracle in my cup.To balance this new habit I am also drinking wine (husband says this is not new). No doubt this will be a passing phase, like Rubio, and I will go back to the olde microwave teabag and the fancy-pants stuff will gather dust.
One of my addictions is porcelain and I figured I need to start using this stuff before the fireball or meteor hit (or camps). Sadly, in 2004, better known as the Year of Frequent Hurricane evacuations, I brought some of my grandmother's china and crystal but few clothes. Husband said we would eat our MRE nude but with class in our moldy FEMA tent.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at June 30, 2013 06:58 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Hillary at June 30, 2013 06:58 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 30, 2013 06:59 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 10:52 PM (aB+tO)
With that reference I have been thinking that the guy playing the Lawkeeper on Defiance could actually do a pretty good rebooted Han Solo. He seems like he can portray the proper amount of swagger to pull it off.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 06:59 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Jeantel the Hutt at June 30, 2013 06:59 PM (57bzg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 10:53 PM (jjvz+)
Horrible.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at June 30, 2013 07:00 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:02 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 09:56 PM (LI48c)
Years ago, when I was about eighteen (a year older than Trayvon Martin), I was in my car, driving through my hometown, and noticed I was being followed. At first I thought it was a cop but as he came up closer behind me, I noticed he was a shaggy-looking guy driving a piece of crap car. Unmarked police cars are rarely rundown-looking Datsun compacts. I drove down a one-way street and stopped, stopping him behind me. I got out and started walking towards his car, determined to ask who he was and what the hell he thought he was doing. I was unarmed. He backed up in a hurry, turned around in a driveway, and drove off. Found out later he was the very jealous ex-husband of a (slightly older) woman I was dating at the time. Never met the guy, didn't know what he looked like, don't know what he thought would happen when he caught up to me. I don't remember being particularly frightened. I do remember being highly pissed off.
My point? Up to the point Martin started beating Zimmerman's head against the pavement and threatening his life, Martin was doing what I'm guessing a few of us would've done: circled back and confronted the asshole who was following us home. That Martin sold drugs and broke into lockers at school and was possibly one of the young black males breaking into neighborhood homes is beside the point. Martin lived in that neighborhood. He had a right and a reason to be where he was. There is, to my knowledge, no evidence Martin was doing anything illegal when Zimmerman started following him.
Zimmerman made the wrong move as soon as he stepped out his car. He knew Martin might still be in the area, and given that Martin had circled him earlier to size him up, knew there was a probability Martin had not run away. Again: if you, a capable adult, were being followed on your way home, wouldn't you be at least tempted to find out who the hell it was and what the hell they wanted?
Zimmerman supporters are trying to make him into a hero of some sort. He wasn't. He made horrendous errors in judgement. Martin supporters are trying to make him into a martyr. He wasn't. He was an impulsive, drug-using, locker-stealing 17-year-old ne'er do well who ended up dead because he thought the creepy little cracker following him home posed no physical threat. The combined stupidity of both Martin and Zimmerman escalated to the point of life-and-death violence and the police arrived too late to stop it. As a result, a 17-year-old kid is dead. I don't give a damn how tall he was, or how much he towered over Zimmerman. He was still just a kid, shot to death by a member of the local Neighborhood Watch.
It wasn't a clean shoot.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 07:02 PM (ptcFO)
Does Taylor Swift fornicate? I was under the impression that she just dates for song ideas, not any of the old in and out.
Speaking of which, absolutely hilarious one liner by Malcom McDowell on Franklin and Bash this week he says to one of the characters something along the lines of "looks like you got a bit of the old in and out last night"
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 30, 2013 07:03 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: toby928© waiting in the wings at June 30, 2013 07:04 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:04 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: The Political Hat, Proud Kyriarch at June 30, 2013 07:05 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 07:05 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 07:05 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:05 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: toby928© waiting in the wings at June 30, 2013 07:07 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:07 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:07 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Big Ben at June 30, 2013 07:08 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: ALH at June 30, 2013 10:55 PM (2LTPq)
***********
Asshat Jamie Fox wears Trayvon Martin shirt to BET awards. Sooner rather than later. Barack Obama's Amerika.
Posted by: reggieinSA at June 30, 2013 07:08 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: toby928© waiting in the wings at June 30, 2013 07:08 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:08 PM (jjvz+)
http://youtu.be/WlReZySwPPY
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 07:08 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:09 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:10 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 07:10 PM (aB+tO)
The other thing one of the guys on the show has said is "I've met David Lee Roth, I've met Sammy Hagaar... Eddie Van Halen must be a Dick!"
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 10:28 PM (LI48c)
As a Van Halen fan since the late '70s, it took me until about 6 years ago before I came to that conclusion. Many of us thought EVH was the nicest guy based on his public persona from the '70s through the '90s. But I've now come to the conclusion that he is a phony of epic proportions. Just the way he treated Michael Anthony, who is truly one of the nicest guys in rock, is enough to make you hate EVH.
Posted by: Slappy at June 30, 2013 07:10 PM (LTbLf)
"Martin was visiting his father in Sanford while he was suspended by Miami-Dade schools."
http://scoamf.us/Ch
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2013 07:11 PM (jGsIV)
No, actually, I would not be thus tempted. I would get my ass safely home and behind a solid locked door doublepluspronto, and then stop to wonder about it.
Which is something that the departed Traydemark Martin could have trivially accomplished.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 30, 2013 07:11 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:11 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:12 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 07:13 PM (KiyII)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 11:12 PM (Z9EHQ)
We could do worse. I say go for it.
Posted by: Some Guy at June 30, 2013 07:13 PM (uPbpg)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:13 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 07:14 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:14 PM (jjvz+)
Some pilots like to take pictures of their wives with them in the cockpit.
Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2013 07:14 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 07:14 PM (FlRtG)
It wasn't a clean shoot.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 11:02 PM (ptcFO)
Do you ever give up? You keep commenting on this case and you still can't get the facts right. For example, Martin did NOT live in that neighborhood. He was at the townhouse of his father's fiance. So add that to the list of incorrect details that you compiled the other day when commenting on this case.
Posted by: Slappy at June 30, 2013 07:15 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:15 PM (Z9EHQ)
My problem is this notion of the use of race as a grievance category. Is race a positive or negative identification? In the case of a lot of black Americans, it is purely negative - and only positive in its negativity (i.e. its bad but not worse than whatever.)
Things like Black History Month are not a problem for blacks and a great; it lets them know (if it is honest) the good stuff about being black. But the reality is it is foisted on whites (and Jews and Asians and etc.) Because it's not enough that blacks should know a positive identity; no, black history month is not for them. It is for the ignorant and evil other. I think Morgan Freeman said something to the effect of wanting to get rid of it. He knows it's not there to help black people understand their history; those who need it (probably people like Jeantel) don't care anyway, and to make matters worse there is evidence that in some programs they have falsified information (like claiming a black man invented the elevator when in fact the black inventor was just one of many inventors who came up with the idea and patented something, but whose patent did not ultimately lead to the elevators we use today.)
There is a necessity for blacks to forge a positive identity - which they were in the process of doing prior to Democratium, or become something like a doctor where race is a minor factor.
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 07:15 PM (KTytI)
Just until the blood dries, then it will be more of a rusty brown.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2013 07:15 PM (jGsIV)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 07:16 PM (BXLPR)
I'm just tired of hearing about how she's awesome and every guy is a loser on my radio.
Sweetheart (TS), at some point, YOUR the problem.
Stop listening to country music.
I worked for 5 months where the only station that came in most areas was country. I could tolerate the Swift songs. I could tolerate a few others. If I had to hear Cowboys and Angels more than three times in an 8 hour period though I was considering slitting my wrists though. Not to mention the multiple songs about their trucks. Or the ones that are singing about how great country music songs are.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 07:16 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:16 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 07:16 PM (sdi6R)
282I don't know, this Paula Deen woman is a disgrace! Can't see how she'll ever live that down.
Yet Alex Baldwin gets a pass on comments that were insensitive just a few days ago, vs. 30 years ago after Paula had been involved in a robbery by one of those she described. What an upside down world we now live in....
Posted by: Tim in ATL at June 30, 2013 07:17 PM (gAJNj)
Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at June 30, 2013 07:17 PM (LsQAX)
I believe both guys had a right to be on the street and both had a right to be wary of the other person. But Trayvon Martin did not have a right to lay a hand on Zimmerman, more less to beat the crap out of him. He paid dearly for that, but that does not make Zimmerman wrong.
Posted by: Mayday at June 30, 2013 07:17 PM (eHc+1)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:17 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:18 PM (Z9EHQ)
From personal interaction, her being a snotty, self-entitled bitch is the problem.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 30, 2013 07:19 PM (U22Yw)
As a result of, in addition to fighting, having been caught with women's jewelry -- real stuff, not dollar store imitation crap. For his possession of which he was unable to plausibly account. Plus, also in his backpack with the jewelry, a "burglary tool". Which was apparently a large screwdriver.
I own a bunch of large screwdrivers but am not a burglar. Yet for a teenager with no apparent mechanical aptitude, no visible interest in fixing cars or in carpentry, a large screwdriver *is* an awfully odd thing to be carrying around, wouldn't you say?
By the way, the courts agree on that, and certain common tools can and do get parsed as "burglary tools" depending on who is carrying them and whether or not they have a sensible explanation for their doing so.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 30, 2013 07:19 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:20 PM (GEICT)
I am determined, among my many habits, quirks, and hobbies left undone to begin having tea ala Downton Abbey on a regular basis. I am almost ready, with stuff arriving momentarily or maybe weeks from now on the tea ship from the UK. Reading on how to brew the perfect cup in teapot, as I mostly use ye olde teabag. Directions:Warm teapot with hot water, pour boiling water (not too boiling! Not over milk! Over milk if you want milk!ack) over measured tea in warmed pot. Steep 2 min or directed. Filter through strainer into china cup. Add sugar or booze (ok, added that last part). I have even ordered sugar cubes and a tong (not to be confused with bong, boys). Ok, wunderbar. Directions shrill not to leave too long or bitterness and suicide result. Ok.
So: along with the milk/not milk in cup question: "If you leave it too long in pot, but cannot serve all the tea, huh?" Won't that result in the dreaded bitterness? Thank goodness I have not ordered a "cosie" thing as what is the point? This question does not need to be answered as if I start making cosies I will know the camp is not far off in my future in one way or 'nuther.
I suppose I have to be exact, children, which I am not tres good at doing as it might require patience and math and measure. But if I want two cups, make two cups. then the one left in pot will become bitter and suicidal. What to do? I am thinking of unorthodox measures, for more than one person in my busy social calendar, of just brewing in quart measuring cup for allotted time and pouring through filter in fancym warmed teapot and, walla! Won't have to sweat the small stuff #ChristyistryingnottothinkaboutBarkyWWIII
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at June 30, 2013 10:34 PM (baL2B)
I enjoy a pot of tea almost every day. The bitterness is about the order that things extract from the tea leaves -- first, you get "nose", then you get "body", then you get "bitter". So you want to steep long enough to get just the first two.
Once the leaves are out of the water, your tea goes bad through evaporation -- first, goes "nose", next goes "body". So an old pot will lose all the delightful aromas and nuances that makes a cuppa so pleasant.
If you want to use extra hot tea for something, don't leave it around to evaporate -- pour it over ice so it stops evaporating and feed it to someone later who likes iced tea (like the BH).
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 07:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The .223 Hat at June 30, 2013 07:20 PM (Vk2pI)
Huh on TCM tonight is a silent movie about Egypt called Loves of Pharaoh.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 07:20 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:20 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: toby928© waiting in the wings at June 30, 2013 07:21 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Big Ben at June 30, 2013 07:21 PM (I5Htn)
Lmao. My stations are political talk, rock, 2 country, 2 christian and sports talk.
Unfortunately my 6 year old loves her some TS./i]
Mine are Political talk, 2 "Rock" stations and one that if I'm lucky is playing rock. I say "Rock" because one is explicity 80's or older rock. And the other I think the newest rock they'll play is from the 90's, and their sunday night show is fucking Bob Dylan. Shitty excuses for rock stations. I wish I was about 15 miles or so north so I could listen to the Bear out of Fort Wayne again. Get some Seether and Volbeat.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 07:21 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 07:21 PM (jIaZt)
It's a good thing those guys never went to college, because if they did, they would have gone past White Supremacism straight to Venomous Misanthropic Nihilism.
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 07:22 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:22 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:22 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:22 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 07:22 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:24 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 07:24 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:25 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2013 07:25 PM (bKA83)
I've seen it asked a couple of times and never answered: Did the chain of break-ins end or continue after the shooting?
Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2013 07:25 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Adam, who works near Atlanta at June 30, 2013 07:25 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Craig Poe at June 30, 2013 07:26 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:26 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 07:26 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:27 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: toby928© waiting in the wings at June 30, 2013 07:27 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 07:27 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:27 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 30, 2013 07:27 PM (GzffW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:27 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:28 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 07:28 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 07:29 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:29 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: ALH at June 30, 2013 07:29 PM (2LTPq)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:30 PM (Z9EHQ)
http://www.f-16.net/g3/f-16-photos/album07/album34/aak
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 07:30 PM (aB+tO)
I don't know, I think the shakedown in the Paula Deen case was in retrospect a little dumb. So, you now have cost the woman you are trying to get a couple million dollars from millions and millions of dollars, basically ended her livelihood, doesn't that make it slightly more difficult to get a large sum out of her?
Yeah, I know, probably not, since juries often try to get large sums of money out of people with not very much money to cough up too.
By the way, I wasn't particularly dissing Taylor Swift, to be honest I did think she was one of the young celebrities who was into that celibacy thing. Plus I don't actually know how old she is, I didn't think she was even 21 yet. Shows how little I know about her really.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 30, 2013 07:30 PM (RZ8pf)
You see one pair of tits, you want to see them all.
Posted by: Bomber at June 30, 2013 07:30 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:30 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2013 07:31 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:32 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 07:33 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 07:33 PM (jIaZt)
Night guys...and gals. 0400 is gonna come early; the Grumpy Grandma is wearing those jammies again.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 07:33 PM (A9hpr)
Posted by: rich@gmu at June 30, 2013 07:33 PM (Rxwxo)
. Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 07:34 PM (KiyII)
You see one pair of tits, you want to see them all.
And they're all chinese. Sort of.
Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2013 07:34 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 30, 2013 07:34 PM (GzffW)
Posted by: ALH at June 30, 2013 11:29 PM (2LTPq)
Unless she goes the Brittney Spears Miley Cyrus route.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 07:35 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:35 PM (GEICT)
I believe that is yanquis to youPosted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:35 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 11:02 PM (ptcFO)
It was a clean shoot legally, morally, and ethically. Any taint otherwise should rightfully only trouble Zimmerman's dreams....and nobody else's.
And before any asshole jumps in to say, "what about the family?" -- they need to let it go, because second-guessing such a thing is corrosive as hell and will absolutely ruin their lives if they cling to it.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 07:36 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat at June 30, 2013 09:55 PM (Vk2pI
Skipping ahead to say s local brewer around here makes a raspberry hefewiezen that is wonderful.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at June 30, 2013 07:36 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 11:34 PM (KiyII)
*Ahem* Shannon Tweed.
Oh wait I think hers were endowed to her by a plastic surgeon.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 07:36 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Adriane ... at June 30, 2013 07:37 PM (Jv4FA)
geez, don't irritate the horde about Taylor Swift. Duly noted. Didn't realize she was on the list of "those we shalt not joke about" here on the ONT.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 30, 2013 07:37 PM (RZ8pf)
They should have raised Trayvon better. And named him Bob.
Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2013 07:37 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: toby928© waiting in the wings at June 30, 2013 07:37 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Molly k. at June 30, 2013 07:37 PM (I/CPY)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 11:10 PM (Z9EHQ)
Hah! Count me in!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 07:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 30, 2013 07:38 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:39 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 07:39 PM (KiyII)
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 07:39 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Gingy at June 30, 2013 07:40 PM (NYEU2)
Posted by: toby928© waiting in the wings at June 30, 2013 11:07 PM (QupBk)
I watched the reenactment at the link that Zimmerman voluntarily performed for the police. Yes, Martin committed a violent crime when he assaulted Zimmerman. Zimmerman was correct, at that point, to protect his own life. He was clearly in imminent danger. My point is that Zimmerman is a complete dumbass who put himself in that situation.
Zimmerman will possibly/probably be acquitted (as he should be) for murder. Idiocy isn't a crime. That said, stop making the guy out to be blameless for the situation he now finds himself in. By Zimmerman's own account, Martin started 'acting suspiciously' when he noticed Zimmerman tracking him. I'd react, too. So would any of you.
Oh, and yeah, in case you forgot: Martin was 17 years old, on his way home from the convenience store until his life intersected with Zimmerman. So those of you giving me shit? I'm not playing devil's advocate to stir anyone up. I'm pointing out what I see as the truth of it, without all of the racial hype and controversy. Too bad we can't get Martin's version of events without using a Ouja board.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 07:40 PM (ptcFO)
Oh believe me, after college I could never be a White Supremacist. It's not because it isn't awesome to be Albionic. But because I ran into examples of white people so unfuriatingly self hating and horrible that I could never really be pro-white without making huge qualifications which would essentially make it no longer really about race.
For instance, white people are cool as long as they are not liberals. White liberals I hope to God are a subrace of their own -- but probably not. I blame my own race for not exterminating our own stupid, but instead slaughtering millions of our good young men (and women.)
Why couldn't you abort Karl Marx, instead of 50 million kids? Adorno could have been a victim of violence; Gramsci, of disease. All of the purveyors of Faustian Stupid could have had untimely deaths by the thugs that instead murdered Christians and Jews.
Honestly, I think based on the crimes we've committed against ourselves (the final one being abortion and liberalism) we've done our penance; everyone is even and lets start over.
If I run for office that will be my explanation and it will be a very short run but whatever.
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 07:41 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: toby928© waiting in the wings at June 30, 2013 07:42 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: t-bird at June 30, 2013 07:42 PM (FcR7P)
-Should their bravery shine within the hearts of each and everyone who would mourn. May God assuage their loss through the open arms of those who care and believe.
May their stories of bravery shake beer halls with cheer for the bravery of the fallen.
...God Keep You All.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 30, 2013 07:43 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:43 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: ALH at June 30, 2013 07:43 PM (2LTPq)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 30, 2013 07:43 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Rob in Katy at June 30, 2013 07:43 PM (PiTBB)
Posted by: ALH at June 30, 2013 11:43 PM (2LTPq)
You're lucky CAC isn't around. He'd say you were weighing them up a little light.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 07:44 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: t-bird at June 30, 2013 07:44 PM (FcR7P)
I used to live on Albion street. Does that make me "albionic?"
My stripper name would be "Fluffy Albion" Not totally inspired.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 30, 2013 07:44 PM (RZ8pf)
Ouch, ah, Satan, stop it!
Posted by: St. Trayvon's Ghost at June 30, 2013 07:44 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:45 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 30, 2013 07:45 PM (V1ZIU)
You see one pair of tits, you want to see them all.
Posted by: Bomber at June 30, 2013 11:30 PM (+Wfbd)
I get the point but, for the record, I have never been interested in seeing the tits of Ruth Gordon, Helen Thomas, Janet Reno, Sandra Bernhard, or Rosie O'Donnell, among others.
Posted by: Slappy at June 30, 2013 07:45 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:45 PM (GEICT)
He had enough time and he was looking for a fight. His call to Jeantel doesn't make sense except for him to brag on what he was about to do.
He was wired up and looking for trouble and had been for quite a while.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at June 30, 2013 07:46 PM (28TG+)
Posted by: Big Ben at June 30, 2013 07:47 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 30, 2013 07:47 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: toby928© waiting in the wings at June 30, 2013 07:48 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Adriane ... at June 30, 2013 07:48 PM (Jv4FA)
And before any asshole jumps in to say, "what about the family?" -- they need to let it go, because second-guessing such a thing is corrosive as hell and will absolutely ruin their lives if they cling to it.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 11:36 PM (T1005)
Okay, well, the next time you, presumably a grown adult male, start following a teenager through the neighborhood and that kid ends up dead, then by all means tell me about morality and ethics, but don't tell me you exercised good judgement since good judgement is measured by results.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 07:48 PM (ptcFO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 30, 2013 07:48 PM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 07:49 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: ALH at June 30, 2013 07:49 PM (2LTPq)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 07:49 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 30,
sure you have a great name but are you able to dance?
If you are are you a pop out of a cake type or swing from a pole?
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 11:49 PM (Z9EHQ)
She can tie a cherry stem in a knot with her tongue.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 07:50 PM (LI48c)
: troyriser at June 30, 2013 11:40 PM (ptcFO)
Yet you're trying to use said ouija board to determine intent. As you mention, there are only 2 (now 1) people that could tell us what really happened. Why are you trying to bend this story to fit your views?
Posted by: Tim in ATL at June 30, 2013 07:50 PM (gAJNj)
Looking around the web for stories about the firefighters, one report out of Arizona says there were 19 firefighters killed, 18 from the Prescott HotShots and 1 it is unknown from where.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 30, 2013 07:50 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:50 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: helen thomas's droopy jugs at June 30, 2013 07:51 PM (9+vDU)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:51 PM (GEICT)
We can't really measure the results until we know whether the chain of break-ins ended.
Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2013 07:51 PM (hO9ad)
To be fair, it is easier to watch the neighborhood if you're slinking around, constantly hiding, out of a gripping fear of a misconstrued confrontation. Best to call in the professionals if you even thought someone spotted you spotting them. This includes squirrels, foxes, the occasional vole and obviously free range alligators.
911: Yes?
Watch: ... I think it saw me.
911: What?
Watch: There was a squirrel. It saw me. Holding position until further orders.
911: (hangs up)
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 07:51 PM (KTytI)
***
My 1st pet and 1st street make an awful porn name: Spot Main
My 2nd is better: Bobo Thunder
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 11:50 PM (jjvz+)
Slow down I need to get all this written down.
Posted by: Identity thief at June 30, 2013 07:51 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Adriane ... at June 30, 2013 07:52 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 30, 2013 07:52 PM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 30, 2013 07:52 PM (RZ8pf)
Okay, well, the next time you, presumably a grown adult male, start following a teenager through the neighborhood and that kid ends up dead, then by all means tell me about morality and ethics, but don't tell me you exercised good judgement since good judgement is measured by results.
Please talk to us about the reason for the neighborhood watch that was instituted. Was it "Racist" or necessary due to activity in the area?
Posted by: Tim in ATL at June 30, 2013 07:52 PM (gAJNj)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 07:52 PM (8FeS+)
FiremanÂ’s Prayer
When I am called to duty, God
whenever flames may rage,
Give me the strength to save some life
Whatever be its age.
Help me to embrace a little child
Before itÂ’s too late,
Or some older person
from the horror of that fate.
Enable me to be alert
And hear the weakest shout,
And quickly and efficiently
to put the fire out.
I want to fill my calling
and give the best in me,
To guard my neighbor
And protect his property.
And if according to Your will
I have to lose my life,
Please bless with Your protecting hand
My children and my wife
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 11:45 PM (GEICT)
Very nice, and very appropriate. Where is it from?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 07:53 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 07:53 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 30, 2013 07:53 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 07:53 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:54 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Harry Reid at June 30, 2013 07:54 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2013 07:54 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:55 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 07:55 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 07:56 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Admiral Layton at June 30, 2013 07:56 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 30, 2013 07:56 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: mindful webworker, your servant at June 30, 2013 07:56 PM (U13jb)
This is what Balkanization does; this is the strange fruit of the Liberal experiment.
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 07:56 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: toby928© waiting in the wings at June 30, 2013 07:57 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 07:57 PM (KTytI)
Know what I didn't do? I didn't curse him or try to beat the adult to death. I told him I was staying with my friend, pointed out the house, and walked back there.
This is key. TM could very easily have resolved the situation peacefully. The evidence suggests that he chose not to. Instead, he tried to prove he was tougher than GZ. He paid for that mistake.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 30, 2013 07:58 PM (lr3d7)
http://tinyurl.com/n7ezjgf
Posted by: Country Singer at June 30, 2013 07:58 PM (U22Yw)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 30, 2013 11:45 PM (V1ZIU)
Why did Martin go back, you ask? Ever been followed? Ever been 17 years old? 17-year-olds are not known for good judgement. At 17, I probably would've tried to go after the creepy stranger who was following me around. But again, we can't know what Martin may or may not have been thinking or get his version of events because, you know, he's dead.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 07:58 PM (ptcFO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 07:59 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 30, 2013 11:56 PM (5J54Q)
Well the 80's or earlier station likes their claim being 52 minutes of music every hour something the other station can't do. Too bad so much of it is the exact same stuff the other station plays. The other one is the demon spawn of I Heart Radio which means that the DJ's are not local at all. In fact the evening DJ on it also does the afternoon DJing of the rock station about an hour north. The thing is I wished I got that station here because they actually do play some current rock.
Posted by: Identity thief at June 30, 2013 08:00 PM (LI48c)
Okay, well, the next time you, presumably a grown adult male, start following a teenager through the neighborhood and that kid ends up dead, then by all means tell me about morality and ethics, but don't tell me you exercised good judgement since good judgement is measured by results.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 11:48 PM (ptcFO)
What was Zimmerman's poor judgment exactly? Calling the cops to report the suspicious person roaming around townhouses in the rain who ran from him for no apparent reason? Or to go back to his car to wait for the police when Trayvon decided to attack him? I guess Zimmerman could have ignored his duties as a member of the Neighborhood Watch and go back to his place and cower under the covers of his bed. I also guess Trayvon could've went back into the townhouse from which he left and never confronted Zimmerman. But you seem to have less of a problem with a teenager punching a member of the Neighborhood Watch for simply doing his job than you do Zimmerman actually doing the job he volunteered to do.
In all the uninformed, idiotic comments that you've posted on this case, you still can't persuasively explain what Zimmerman should have done in that situation. As a member of the Neighborhood Watch of a neighborhood that had experienced multiple burglaries, he calls the cops then tries to go back to his car to wait for them. That's it.
It's lousy attitudes like yours that make people not want to help others. People like you and Trayvon are part of the problem, not people like Zimmerman.
Posted by: Slappy at June 30, 2013 08:00 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:00 PM (GEICT)
And he shall be Trayvon
And he shall be a dead man
And he shall be Trayvon
That's what happens when you have no plan
And he shall be Trayvon
And he shall be a dead man
He shall be Trayvon
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2013 08:00 PM (jGsIV)
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 11:48 PM (ptcFO)
Yeah, see -- that's exactly where you go off the rails. Try "the next time you, presumably a grown adult male, start *lawfully* following a teenager through the neighborhood *with the best of moral intentions, to protect your community* *and in an ethical manner -- i.e. merely observing rather than confronting* and that kid ends up dead....then, yeah, I'd be sad.
And I might have dreams where this cup might have been taken from me -- some lightning bolt or meteor at precisely the right time, perhaps.
But when the guy I thought was gone popped up and tried to kill me, there wasn't time for that.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 08:00 PM (T1005)
At 17, I probably would've tried to go after the creepy stranger who was following me around.
Then you're and idiot who, God willing, has no children to inherit your dumbass genes.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 30, 2013 08:01 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Alex Luther at June 30, 2013 08:02 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:02 PM (jjvz+)
At 17, I probably would've tried to go after the creepy stranger who was following me around.
With all due respect, you sir, are the other kind of moron.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 30, 2013 08:03 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:03 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: The Archangel Hat at June 30, 2013 08:04 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: helen thomas's droopy jugs at June 30, 2013 11:51 PM (9+vDU)
Yeah, you "rock" alright ... back and forth, like a weeping willow in a hurricane.
Posted by: Slappy at June 30, 2013 08:04 PM (LTbLf)
There is a necessity for blacks to forge a positive identity - which they were in the process of doing prior to Democratium, or become something like a doctor where race is a minor factor.
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 11:15 PM (KTytI)
The only Identity you Forge, is for yourself, through you actions. If you sense of self worth is based on a group identity which is forged by others, and foist upon you... it is false...
I work with Pakistani, Indian, Asian, White, and BLACK Doctors... and THEIR identity, is DOCTOR.
Its only when you have no sense of self identity yourself, that you will fall back onto your racial subgroup.
But THAT is the problem... our Government, Press, and those Groups, brainwash people into thinking we MUST think in those terms.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2013 08:04 PM (lZBBB)
While most accounts of the Firemen’s Prayer conclude with Author Unknown, the world renowned poem was written by Firefighter A.W. “Smokey” Linn. As a young firefighter in 1958 Linn and his crew responded to a fire in which three children were trapped behind security bars and died in the fire.
His granddaughter, Penny McGlachlin said that back then there were no grief counselors to help the firefighters. Penny believes this was an actual prayer from him, to god for the sake of his own family, the other fireman, and the families of the children.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 11:55 PM (GEICT)
Damned dust. I'm going to go check the temperature.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 08:04 PM (T1005)
Why did Martin go back, you ask? Ever been followed? Ever been 17 years old? 17-year-olds are not known for good judgement. At 17, I probably would've tried to go after the creepy stranger who was following me around. But again, we can't know what Martin may or may not have been thinking or get his version of events because, you know, he's dead.
Thanks for providing even more proof that this was a justified shooting. GFY.
Posted by: Tim in ATL at June 30, 2013 08:05 PM (gAJNj)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 08:06 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: RiverC at June 30, 2013 11:57 PM (KTytI)
***
lol. been a while since I've played and found my d20 system books while getting started with the pack up today.
Posted by: rich@gmu at June 30, 2013 08:06 PM (Rxwxo)
Why did Martin go back, you ask? Ever been followed? Ever been 17 years old? 17-year-olds are not known for good judgement. At 17, I probably would've tried to go after the creepy stranger who was following me around. But again, we can't know what Martin may or may not have been thinking or get his version of events because, you know, he's dead.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 11:58 PM (ptcFO)
Actually, yeah, I was hassled by adults as a 17 year old, usually when I was up to teenager shenanigans but often for no reason because the adults wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything that I shouldn't have been doing. Not once did I or my friends turn the encounter into a physical assault, either by us or the adult who confronted us. Funny that, huh?
Posted by: Slappy at June 30, 2013 08:06 PM (LTbLf)
Your pretzel-bent mind, --while something upon which, to observe; Is senselessly bent and destructive to facts. As a defense attorney, you'd be reduced to the following nomenclature: "Jackass".
Had you joined an author's club for mystery/crime writers, you'd be laughed out. Defense attorneys would try to keep you away from Public Service because you'd suck defendants down a never-ending hole of "guilty".
Your Jack-Assery has been noted, for the record. Your retarded reasoning had been noted long ago.
...should you find yourself "fucking off" at any point this evening, we'd all be the better for it.
Please keep your hands and arms inside the vehicle at ALL TIMES. Enjoy the ride, and the rest of your evening here at the ONT.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 30, 2013 08:07 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 08:07 PM (KiyII)
And you would have won a Darwin award. Do you want congratulations or something?
Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2013 08:07 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 30, 2013 08:08 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 30, 2013 08:08 PM (V1ZIU)
He's dead because he assaulted an armed man. You buys your ticket, you takes your chances.
Posted by: holygoat at June 30, 2013 08:08 PM (IGIFh)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 08:09 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:09 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Thrawn at June 30, 2013 08:09 PM (KiyII)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 08:09 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Adam at June 30, 2013 08:10 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2013 08:11 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 08:11 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 08:11 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 08:12 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 08:12 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Kalneva at June 30, 2013 08:12 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: sound awake at June 30, 2013 08:12 PM (NbUW1)
This would never have been a national story but for the chance to manipulate folks into sympathy for the black 'kid' and the implications for stand your ground/CCW.
Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2013 08:13 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2013 08:13 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 08:14 PM (8FeS+)
They were good enough for Adolf, Slappy!
Posted by: helen thomas's droopy jugs at June 30, 2013 08:14 PM (9+vDU)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2013 08:14 PM (JMmQ9)
Hmmmm.... I can see a subpoena to the NSA soon in the future... for Travon Martins cell phone Meta Data...
As he WAS on the phone... it should show his location... and IF he made it home, then went BACK??
Case.... closed...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2013 08:14 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:14 PM (GEICT)
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg.
That beat down of troysissy was like watching someone bring skittles to a gunfight.
boooyaa
Posted by: Big Ben at June 30, 2013 08:14 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2013 12:04 AM (T1005)
Allergies down here in FL are a killer.
They really kicked in when I was reading a story on FB earlier about how this kid with prosthetic legs was competing in a kid's triathlon and the stress caused his prosthetics to fail. Marines in attendance picked him up and carried him the rest of the way across the finish line.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 01, 2013 12:09 AM (GEICT)
I'm thinking that I must be allergic to honor and sacrifice and selflessness and devotion.....oh, and dust. But, oddly, I keep finding these. It's almost like there's something in me that yearns to note them and to be nearby.....
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 08:15 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2013 08:15 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:16 PM (GEICT)
But that's cheating! No participation award for him!
Posted by: liberal official at June 30, 2013 08:16 PM (9+vDU)
Posted by: Methos at July 01, 2013 12:13 AM (hO9ad)
I'm with AtC on this one. The media heard the name "Zimmerman" and jumped all over it. Stupid fake White Hispanics.
Posted by: Bill Richardson - D (Hispanic) at June 30, 2013 08:16 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:16 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:17 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 08:18 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Thrawn at July 01, 2013 12:09 AM (KiyII)
Apparently, followed by Trayvon urinating and defecating on Zimmerman's corpse since Zimmerman had the gall to do his job as a member of the Neighborhood Watch.
Posted by: Slappy at June 30, 2013 08:18 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 08:19 PM (8FeS+)
They had visions of Bernie Geotz dancing in their heads.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 30, 2013 08:19 PM (U22Yw)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:19 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: RWC at July 01, 2013 12:11 AM (8FeS+)
Dealer? You mean double cheeseburgers and large amounts of crack.
Posted by: Big Ben at June 30, 2013 08:20 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: Mayday at June 30, 2013 08:20 PM (eHc+1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:21 PM (jjvz+)
Damn, I forgot about the Geotz story. I think you're on to something.
Posted by: holygoat at June 30, 2013 08:21 PM (IGIFh)
Posted by: Jimmah 'nookyalur peanut' Carter at June 30, 2013 08:22 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 08:22 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:23 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 08:23 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 08:23 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:23 PM (GEICT)
This guy needed one, seeing as law nor reason appealed to his particular sensibilities.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 30, 2013 08:23 PM (lq3Ak)
>>> Were you never 17 NDH?
When I was 17 I was polite to the adults in my neighborhood.
If Martin had been raised by a decent family he would have been more likely to get a ride home in the rain than to get shot.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2013 08:26 PM (zKW6C)
http://tinyurl.com/k4wdyse
This could get very very ugly.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 01, 2013 12:23 AM (GEICT)
Or, depending on just a few well-placed manpads, very Darwin.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 08:26 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 08:26 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 08:27 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:27 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 30, 2013 08:28 PM (9+vDU)
If Martin had been raised by a decent family he would have been more likely to get a ride home in the rain than to get shot.
Posted by: garrett at July 01, 2013 12:26 AM (zKW6C)
If Martin had been raised by a decent family, he wouldn't have been out looking to get ingredients to get drugged up. If he had been raised by a decent family he probably wouldn't have even been in that neighborhood because he would have been home with his mom because he wouldn't have been suspended.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 08:28 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:29 PM (GEICT)
RIP, Dennis Netto.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2013 08:29 PM (jGsIV)
You should have heard his girllfriend's defenders on Greta the other night. It was sickening.
"This impeccably coiffed young woman with her courthouse nails...."
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 01, 2013 12:19 AM (jjvz+)
You mean the girlfriend with the Michelin neck who can't read cursive? Her testimony really "helped" the prosecution case, didn't it? Maybe troyriser can take her in as a boarder after the case to show his undying devotion to poor Trayvon. Groceries for her alone ought to cost him about $500/week. Plus, the learning how to read cursive DVDs will be another $39.95. But anything for good ol' Trayvon, right troyriser? After all, Trayvon's the victim we should be concerned about. Not Zimmerman, who can't work, will probably be bankrupt by the time the case ends, will likely face a civil suit that will cost him even more money (whether he wins or loses), and will never be safe again because people like troyriser unfairly made him out to be a murderer.
Posted by: Slappy at June 30, 2013 08:30 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 08:31 PM (FlRtG)
Any idea who it is?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 01, 2013 12:27 AM (jjvz+)
Character witness for Trayvon. I believe the name of the witness is Troy Riser.
Posted by: Slappy at June 30, 2013 08:31 PM (LTbLf)
Someone at Weather.com has apparently been sniffing glue. They list yesterday's (Saturday's) high here in my city (LA County, far away from the beach) as 94 degrees. And said high occurred at 11:45am on a blazingly hot sunny day.
It may very well have been 94 degrees at 11:45am, but that definitely wasn't the hottest time of the day - not by a long shot. They list a similarly confusing high of 93 degrees at 12:05pm for today... which is considerably less than the high that the Windows 8 weather app on my PC lists - 104 degrees. I'm not sure where the app pulls its numbers from, but I am quite confident that it's a lot more accurate than the nonsense that Weather.com is throwing around.
Posted by: junior at June 30, 2013 08:32 PM (Quo7C)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 08:32 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:32 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:33 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 30, 2013 08:33 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 08:34 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:34 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Bomber at June 30, 2013 08:36 PM (FOwrE)
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 08:36 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 08:37 PM (8FeS+)
OT but Bing is trying hard to run me off just like Google did. Goddamn rainbow flags all over the place.
I'm willing to give them a pass since they've otherwise been pretty good with pro-US stuff and not descending into leftwing douchebaggery.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 30, 2013 08:38 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Infidel at June 30, 2013 08:38 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 30, 2013 08:38 PM (9+vDU)
Crump is releasing Genteals sex tape to help the prosecution.
Is he threatening to play it if the Jurors find Zimmerman "not guilty"?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 30, 2013 08:39 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: ixquick at June 30, 2013 08:39 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 08:39 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:40 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 30, 2013 08:40 PM (9+vDU)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2013 08:42 PM (yoh1c)
613 OT
Hahahaahahhaha. Gotta laugh. Chick that was hardcore after me in highschool that I blew off, (her older brother was my age and a teammate, so...) is pretty much a serious hottie now.
Funny how that shit works.
Lmao.
Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't trade my wife or my current life for anything. It's just funny the way things work out.
Allow me to give you a Blues song just for someone like you.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 08:43 PM (LI48c)
I've yet to hear him say Travon had it coming.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 01, 2013 12:16 AM (jjvz+)
No, I would've said nothing of the sort. You and your like-minded pals, on the other hand, have implied (or said outright) that kid had it coming. Zimmerman had a right to defend himself, certainly. His head was being pounded into the pavement. He was crying for help. Based on eyewitness evidence, there's little or no doubt Martin was intent on doing serious injury to Zimmerman.
Zimmerman is parked. He's been driving around alone on Neighborhood Watch. He sees a tall black male in a hoodie (it was raining, remember). Martin, coming back from a trip to the convenience store, starts acting suspiciously when he notices Zimmerman staring at him. Martin circles around, no doubt to check the plates and see if Zimmerman's a cop. Zimmerman isn't cop. Zimmerman, in his car, starts following Martin, parking again in the clubhouse parking lot. Martin heads down a cul de sac and keeps going down the sidewalk since he's on foot. He goes as far as his own backyard and then cuts back and more or less ambushes Zimmerman, who's now on foot, walking on the sidewalk, having parked his vehicle in the cul de sac. A struggle ensues. Zimmerman, being severely beaten, crying for help and in fear for his life, draws his gun and shoots Martin. Martin dies. Those are the facts as told and shown by Zimmerman in his voluntary reenactment.
Question: would Zimmerman have left the safety of his vehicle if he wasn't armed? Martin, who had circled Zimmerman before without Zimmerman tracking him, was not in sight. Zimmerman had no way to know Martin was gone.
Zimmerman made a terrible mistake when he left his vehicle. Doing so made him legally vulnerable. He's a member of the Neighborhood Watch. All he's supposed to do as a member of the Neighborhood Watch is observe and report, yet he got out of his vehicle with a flashlight and a gun while he was following a 17-year-old going home from the convenience store. A good prosecutor could run with that, I think. Fortunately for Zimmerman, the prosecutor is a self-aggrandizing publicity whore under pressure from Washington.
Even if he's acquitted, Zimmerman's life has been ruined because of the judgement he used and the actions he took that night. Put the politics aside for a moment: a man's life is ruined and a 17-year-old kid is dead. Turning this into a political issue or, more specifically, a racial issue, is just plain wrong for all who are doing it.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 08:43 PM (ptcFO)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2013 08:43 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: AoSHQ Pics Enforcement Squad at June 30, 2013 08:43 PM (Znhm9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:45 PM (GEICT)
...today
...tomorrow
...the day after
...the day after that
...the day after that
...the day after that
...
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 30, 2013 08:45 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2013 08:45 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:46 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 08:47 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: troyriser at July 01, 2013 12:43 AM (ptcFO)
What planet are you from? I'd like to live there, it sounds perfect.
Posted by: Infidel at June 30, 2013 08:47 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: Lauren at June 30, 2013 08:49 PM (ikxXh)
Watts Up With That? pointed out that the temperature readings are probably massively off because the weather stations are so effed-up, junior. I think there was a link with a précis on Friday's or Saturday's ONT.
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I haven't been by Watts Up in a while, but my recollection is that he'd pointed to weather stations being in areas that drove the temperature up a bit. I don't think that's what I'm seeing here. The fact that Weather.com is claiming that the hottest part of the day was at around noon is a huge red flag in and of itself. On days like today and yesterday, the temperature doesn't peak until mid-afternoon.
Posted by: junior at June 30, 2013 08:50 PM (Quo7C)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 08:50 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:50 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 01, 2013 12:46 AM (GEICT)
those real?
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at July 01, 2013 12:50 AM (s/TCI)
I'm willing to take the risk of an exploratory mission to find out.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2013 08:51 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 08:51 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:51 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:52 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 08:52 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:53 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 30, 2013 08:53 PM (dh83Q)
*****
I'll defy whatever and whomever defies my NON-DELICATE sensibilities. It takes a LOT to provoke me to write something derogatory and I felt that the line had been crossed, re-crossed, poorly defended and a bit pernicious.
...even this latest post draws my ire because it defies common sense. That's not "reckless", but it is restaurant-quality irritating.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 30, 2013 08:54 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Lauren at June 30, 2013 08:54 PM (ikxXh)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 08:57 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 01, 2013 12:52 AM (GEICT)
Oh yes..yes it was. lol
Posted by: Berserker at June 30, 2013 08:57 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 08:58 PM (GEICT)
My dad was in the biz in the 60's. Mom made him chose between his family and radio. Never did find out if he regretted his choice.
Link to a compilation of Mr. Netto's on-air antics from the late 70's/early 80's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uW1yCnnJqE
If you click, please bear in mind that this guy was doing this stuff pre-Stern, and the FCC made sure he suffered appropriately.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2013 08:58 PM (jGsIV)
...hugs, darlin'.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 30, 2013 08:59 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: AoSHQ Pics Enforcement Squad at June 30, 2013 09:00 PM (Znhm9)
Oh, will you just fuck off with that already?
Interested parties are invited to view the reenactment video to see the key points which are being discreetly elided here.
To wit, Zimmerman saying quite clearly that (a) his jacket rode up as he squirmed on the ground, exposing his sidearm, (b) Martin looked down and saw the weapon, (c) Martin said, "You're going to die tonight, motherfucker," and (d) Zimmerman felt Martin making a grab for the weapon. AND THEN Zimmerman drew the gun and shot Martin.
That is at 12:28 on in the video.
Whereas in troyriser's version, Zimmerman was being "severely beaten" and promptly responded with a gunshot, with nothing intervening.
So troyriser, it isn't clear why you're pushing this particular highly selectively edited version of events, but you are, and it's not welcome, and as I said, fuck off with that. Paying attention? Fuck. Off. With. That. You're not being taken seriously, and it's because you're not a serious individual.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 30, 2013 09:01 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: World's 289,217th-worst Christian, Cretinous Moron/weaponized at June 30, 2013 09:01 PM (c9aNZ)
Maybe the media whores are extrapolating the noon temperatures like NOAA does from the one Arctic weather station they use for data when there are 100+ Canadian ones in the Arctic they could also get data from? It makes things so much simpler.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 30, 2013 09:01 PM (9+vDU)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 09:01 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: World's 289,217th-worst Christian, Cretinous Moron/weaponized at July 01, 2013 01:01 AM (c9aNZ)
******
Duh?
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 30, 2013 09:02 PM (lq3Ak)
We called it "slave-galley-ing" in our day.
Posted by: helen thomas's droopy jugs at June 30, 2013 09:03 PM (9+vDU)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 09:04 PM (GEICT)
Si!
Posted by: Linda Ronstadt at June 30, 2013 09:05 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: World's 289,217th-worst Christian, Cretinous Moron/weaponized at June 30, 2013 09:05 PM (c9aNZ)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 09:06 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: Infidel at June 30, 2013 09:06 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 09:07 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 09:07 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 30, 2013 09:08 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: World's 289,217th-worst Christian, Cretinous Moron/weaponized at June 30, 2013 09:08 PM (c9aNZ)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 09:08 PM (8FeS+)
http://tinypic.com/ view.php?pic=vyabn5s=5
Like the fist of an angry God.
...and twice on days that end with 'y'.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2013 09:09 PM (zKW6C)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 01, 2013 12:58 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: Berserker at June 30, 2013 09:09 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Lauren at June 30, 2013 09:09 PM (ikxXh)
Posted by: HRC at June 30, 2013 09:09 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: Gingy at June 30, 2013 09:10 PM (NYEU2)
Please send this lass to:
Country Singer's Home for Lonesome Lasses
1 Knockers Rd
Moronville, GA
Posted by: Country Singer at June 30, 2013 09:10 PM (U22Yw)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 09:12 PM (8FeS+)
BS troy, GZ can follow who ever he wants with whatever he wants. Trayvon has no right to attack him. The punk deserved to get shot and GZ deserves a medal.
Posted by: Jean at June 30, 2013 09:13 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 09:13 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2013 09:14 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 11:58 PM
So you get a do-over if you're 17 because you make stupid risky mistakes? I guess if you're 17 and you drink a 6 pack and then drive at 120 mph and t-bone a car at an intersection everyone gets to live because "hey, we all do stupid things at 17"
St Trayvon was a "gangstah" living in North Miami, I doubt that his fatal meeting with GZ was the first time he tempted death by being stupid and arrogant, but youth doesn't shield you from consequences
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 09:14 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Jean at June 30, 2013 09:14 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Infidel at June 30, 2013 09:15 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at June 30, 2013 09:16 PM (s/TCI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 09:17 PM (GEICT)
If you'd gotten away clean and were in your own yard, in doing so you just drew a line through the chronology and created a second incident -- one in which Martin straight up ambushes Zimmerman.
Anything Zimmerman did prior is irrelevant to this second incident. He had a right to be on the street and walking around back to his vehicle.
Zimmerman's response to that second incident, the ambush attack, would be entirely proper and perfectly legal.
You might want to rethink your approach to social interactions...just saying.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 30, 2013 09:18 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 09:18 PM (8FeS+)
I've noticed that a number of the Trayvon worshipers live in high income low crime neighborhoods, where the cops respond quickly because they know the residents are likely to be on a first name basis with the commissioner and mayor
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 09:18 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 30, 2013 09:19 PM (9+vDU)
Posted by: World's 289,217th-worst Christian, Cretinous Moron/weaponized at June 30, 2013 09:19 PM (c9aNZ)
Bad shit going down there.
God be with the people of Egypt. I've been there. Like everywhere, most of 'em are good people, who just want a good life for themselves and their loved ones. Sure, they've got a fucked-up religion. Well, more fucked-up than most, anyway. But that doesn't make them less human. In fact, it maybe makes them MORE human.
Poor bastards.
There but for the grace of God go us, in the U.S.A.
It CAN happen here.
This week, we commemorate the Declaration of Independence, easily in the Top Five of Greatest Political Documents Ever Written By The Hand Of A Human Being.
Possibly #1, although the Constitution of the United States kicks ass too,, if you bother to read and actually comprehend all of the big and small words in it.
This is the week that we should look back and remember why the United States of America exists as an independent nation.
And then we should go take a long, long, LONG look in the mirror.
And then we should roll up our sleeves and get to work.
I'm outta here for the night. But we know that the "tragic vision" of humanity is the correct one, and the leftist "heroic vision" is fatally flawed. The current seeming ascendency of centralized statism will inevitably collapse, sooner or later, because . . .
It. Won't. Work.
Stout heart, Morons. We will prevail. But it will suck--a lot--before we do.
I'm outta here. (for the night, anyway; got an eight-hour drive to the ancestral demenses tomorrow--er--today)
Posted by: filbert at June 30, 2013 09:19 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2013 09:20 PM (GEICT)
Why doesn't Zimmerman have the same right to walk through his neighborhood as Trayvon in your mind? That seems silly. Are you of the opinion that white-Hispanics be required to remain in their vehicles at all times while traversing their neighborhoods? If not, why the exception for Zimmerman? What is it about his particular actions that you feel justifies Trayvon's attempted murder?
Posted by: holygoat at June 30, 2013 09:20 PM (IGIFh)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 09:20 PM (BXLPR)
.even this latest post draws my ire because it defies common sense. That's not "reckless", but it is restaurant-quality irritating.
Posted by: Slapweasel at July 01, 2013 12:54 AM (lq3Ak)
I only write things about others that I would say openly to their face. It's a rule I follow. It usually keeps things civil on my end--or at least not overtly hostile. Besides, anonymous Internet people calling me names has little effect unless I happen to know and usually agree with that person, whatever they choose to call themselves online. That's me, how I view things.
However, the whole point of argument is to persuade. I don't think I've persuaded anyone that this whole Zimmerman business is just an overly politicized, dismal mess without any side to cheer for. That I kept going even though I was antagonizing the daylights out of people, some of whom I like, is my fault, part of a sometimes contrary nature, for which I apologize.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 09:20 PM (ptcFO)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 09:22 PM (vgd4f)
*****
The kid has no "reasoning", Purp. He has "scenarios", driven by "ALF", "C.S.I. Miami" and "Aqua Teen Hunger Force". He reads stuff, but that no longer counts ...tonight.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 30, 2013 09:23 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 30, 2013 09:24 PM (Znhm9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 09:24 PM (jjvz+)
I'm out fresh of sympathy for these thug types when they get tuned up.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 30, 2013 09:25 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: The Goracle at June 30, 2013 09:25 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 09:26 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 09:26 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: troyriser at July 01, 2013 01:20 AM
Apology accepted, but your ass is still spending the night in The Barrel
Posted by: Carr the Threadwalker at June 30, 2013 09:27 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 09:28 PM (vgd4f)
PS -- He's a long term moron lurker.
If the judge in this case really wanted to avoid riots, what she should do is issue a directed verdict of not guilty with prejudice. In her written opinion, she could unequivocally say that the State had no case nor cause to bring charges.
Judges still command a fair amount of respect in our society. While there would still be lots of grumbling, she could calm the waters a lot with this action. A fair hearing was held, and case dismissed.
Now do I believe that is is what will happen? Nope, it sounds like the judge is in the prosecutor's ball court for the most part. Just look at her agreeing to keep Zimmerman's parents out of the courtroom.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 30, 2013 09:29 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 09:30 PM (jjvz+)
Although you have no reason to, trust me on this, I understand all too well what's involved with a job where you're always on-call. I also understand what it's like to start in the middle of the night and finish up late in the evening the next day.
And I'm nowhere near any part of the entertainment biz.
Which is too bad, as I've always been told I have a perfect face for radio.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2013 09:30 PM (jGsIV)
Posted by: Infidel at June 30, 2013 09:30 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 09:31 PM (8FeS+)
Hi, Miss lou! I got 117 today, and you?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2013 09:31 PM (jGsIV)
.
You should, too.Posted by: World's 289,217th-worst Christian, Cretinous Moron/weaponized at June 30, 2013 09:31 PM (c9aNZ)
Liberals blame Ariz. firefighters' deaths on global warming http://bit.ly/12fzFMY Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 01, 2013 01:26 AM
Yes, because liberals could give us all perfect weather if we only gave them all our stuff and obeyed their orders
I'm really kind of tired of arguing with obtuse idiot lefties who think universal knowledge pours from every one of their orifices. It's easier just to say "fuck you, that's why"
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 09:31 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 09:32 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Infidel at June 30, 2013 09:32 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: Buzzion at June 30, 2013 09:33 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 09:33 PM (jjvz+)
No, but you are required to cower behind the locked doors of your car, or domicile, or wherever else you might hide so as not to inconvenience the criminal.
Posted by: Methos at June 30, 2013 09:33 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: The Goracle at June 30, 2013 09:33 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: World's 289,217th-worst Christian, Cretinous Moron/weaponized at June 30, 2013 09:34 PM (c9aNZ)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 09:34 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at June 30, 2013 09:34 PM (2/T/u)
Oh, and speaking of unspeakable Muslim kinky fatal violence, I did watch "The Stoning of Soraya M."
I cried watching that movie, a lot. Scary shit because it's based in reality.
Posted by: Infidel at June 30, 2013 09:35 PM (SkhKv)
Could be worse, it got to 100 in Houston today
You don't want to be in Houston when it's over 90
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 09:35 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 09:36 PM (8FeS+)
Do you know why you haven't persuaded anyone to your view on this? It's because the facts don't support your conclusions. You are offering supposition and conjecture to counter facts. That's why.
Posted by: holygoat at June 30, 2013 09:36 PM (IGIFh)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 09:36 PM (jjvz+)
Hi, lou's a girl. "Insomnia", no matter the 'reach', SUCKS. We're talking circular fans and a neck-rag at this point, I'll assume.
-Put on "Whale Sounds fer Faygs" -or- "Cuzco". I love Cuzco, actually.
-Use only one pillow.
-Do not shoot your neighbor.
-Eat kale and pepper salad.
-Fire one employee tomorrow.
-Don't check hydrants, that's the job of the local fire department.
-Wet pine before you stain it. Pine needs its pores opened.
-Buy sparklers.
*shit*
That was my "To Do List" for Mid-July.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 30, 2013 09:37 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 09:37 PM (vgd4f)
I would ask if that was the temp or the humidity, but being Houston the answer is probably, "Yes".
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2013 09:38 PM (jGsIV)
see a guy peeking in windows, you have no business calling the police or
keeping an eye on the suspicious person if the perv happens to live in
the area
No, but you are required to cower behind the locked doors of your car, or domicile, or wherever else you might hide so as not to inconvenience the criminal.
Posted by: Methos at July 01, 2013 01:33 AM
But if you leave teddy bears, candles, flowers, and cards at the spot where the child was raped and murdered, you're a wonderful person who CARES and wants to show how sad you are.
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 09:38 PM (/9IC1)
And speaking of Radio.....
See!!!!! Babies!!! I WAS Right about the Phone Cops... but is was NSA AND ATT!!!!!
Posted by: Dr. Johnny Fever at June 30, 2013 09:38 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: achmed- famous lover of goats at June 30, 2013 09:39 PM (s/TCI)
That dude is a light weight compared to some of the Palm Beach county lockup regulars.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 30, 2013 09:39 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 01, 2013 01:28 AM (vgd4f)
During the day, it's one thing -- but if it doesn't slack off at night, it gets old quick.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 09:39 PM (T1005)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2013 09:39 PM (vi9Q8)
Likewise yuppie-liberal gun control types.
It's absolutely inconceivable to them that anyone would not just "wait for the police to arrive," because in the well-off, well-behaved affluent communities where they live, police response times are amazingly short.
The idea that others live in places where police response times are measured in multiples of 10X that number, if the police even show up at all, is totally outside of their experience.
I noticed some shock & confusion in the UK that after the brutal daylight sidewalk knife killing of Drummer Rigby by a pair of jihadis, it took nearly half an hour to obtain an armed police response to subdue the killers, despite there being a police barracks right down the road.
Same thing. They can't fathom that when they dial for help in a crisis, that help would not be there promptly, and when confronted with the hard factual reality of it not being there, they flounder and sputter.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 30, 2013 09:39 PM (gqT4g)
This is correct, and the white woman part is irrelevant. It wouldn't matter if it was Judge Mathis, there would be riots.
Posted by: holygoat at June 30, 2013 09:41 PM (IGIFh)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at June 30, 2013 09:41 PM (2/T/u)
It's been in my watchlist forever but I've never had the nerve to watch it
Watch it. She was a brave woman. I made myself search it out. Although, I couldn't watch the beheading of the Friar at WZ today.
Posted by: Infidel at June 30, 2013 09:41 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 09:43 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: UWP at June 30, 2013 09:44 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at June 30, 2013 09:46 PM (2/T/u)
However, there's only about 2 NYSP officers out on patrol at any given time to cover probably in the range of 500 miles of road 75% of which is twisty dirt back roads scattered over 75 or 100 square miles, which include a couple of mountains.
A 30 min response time to a 911 call would be considered excellent there.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 30, 2013 09:48 PM (/gHaE)
Posted by: holygoat at June 30, 2013 09:48 PM (IGIFh)
Posted by: RWC at June 30, 2013 09:48 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 09:48 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2013 09:50 PM (vi9Q8)
As did I. It's not for the faint of heart. It is also one of the reasons that, while I wish the Egyptian people rising up against the Muslim Bros success, I just don't have much empathy for them.
Cuz they will still follow that fucked up religion afterwards.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 30, 2013 09:50 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 01, 2013 01:31 AM (jGsIV)
117??? Hell with that, I would have plopped my silly ass in a freezer and had the sucker shipped off to Alaska.
Posted by: Berserker at June 30, 2013 09:52 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at June 30, 2013 09:52 PM (2/T/u)
Hey cthulu!
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 01, 2013 01:46 AM (2/T/u)
Aloha, Tammy.
I spent a couple of weeks rampaging around NC this spring.....there's a lot of nice parts to it. I found a couple of really awkward places (e.g. Thomasville....where all the furniture plants are closed), but there are also many pleasant areas. If he's going to make bank, it's not the worst place in the world to do so. Just sayin'.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 09:52 PM (T1005)
They won't sacrifice shit because it's not THEIR shit causing a problem, it's YOUR shit. Besides, they think good thoughts and that entitles them to their personal luxuries
It's always as PJ O'Rourke said of liberal sanctimony and the environment; "just enough of me, way too much of you"
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 09:53 PM (/9IC1)
Nahh, just get some cookie dough and put it on cookie sheet, then put that on your car's dashboard and go inside for a while. When you come out the heat still sucks the life out of you, but now you have cookies!
Can't do that in Alaska.
Wait, that's kind of your point, isn't it?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2013 09:55 PM (jGsIV)
But it's a dry heat. Heh.
I went to Vegas once in July. ONCE. I believe my exact quote on that was "never again".
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 30, 2013 09:56 PM (ccXZP)
Lotta morons in nc. And my sister is moving to Charlotte in 2 weeks, so I'm going to have to visit pretty regularly.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 01, 2013 01:50 AM (vi9Q
Charlotte looked like a cleaner, more polite version of SF -- without so many nudists and pervs wiping things all over the public areas. Very urban, chic, and cool (and Dem).....but still catching up on the corrupt, depraved, and unhygenic aspects. They had a Dean and DeLuca store without stains on the bench outside.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 09:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 09:58 PM (vgd4f)
That dude is a light weight compared to some of the Palm Beach county lockup regulars.
Posted by: Purp at July 01, 2013 01:39 AM
The LA County Corrections Dept could probably show you lots of similar examples but the same guy has 20 different rap sheets due to multiple names and ID's
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 09:58 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 30, 2013 10:00 PM (/gHaE)
Work expects me to show up tomorrow, so I should get at least a few hours of sleep.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2013 10:00 PM (jGsIV)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 10:00 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at June 30, 2013 10:01 PM (2/T/u)
7:50:09 PM - XXXX: CA...is a diminishing banana republic...I predict it will be fenced off from the rest of the country in my lifetime. I intend to be on the other side of that fence.
7:50:20 PM - XXXX: Just sayin'
7:50:47 PM - XXXX: I like AZ and TX...probably one of those.
7:51:03 PM - cthulhu: You may well be right. And if you owned a gerbil -- it might be within its lifetime, too.
7:51:12 PM - XXXX: ha ha
7:51:40 PM - XXXX: I don't see why more people don't see it...it seems so obvious
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:02 PM (T1005)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 01, 2013 01:56 AM (cc
I did the same stupid thing, and said the same exact thing. I was out there on july1st a few years back. I will never frigging do that shit again. I got burned on every damn thing I touched outside. The heat from the sidewalk radiated through the soles of mt shoes within 5 minutes. You sit in the car with the AC and feel this pitiful little cold breeze that felt like it came from a straw, because the entire fucking car was radiating heat like it was a cable car in hell. Fuuuuck that place.
Posted by: Berserker at June 30, 2013 10:03 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 10:03 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: holygoat at July 01, 2013 01:48 AM
Let me guess that besides the posts of every minutia of their lives, you saw "poor trayvon" stuff, pile on contempt for Paula Deen, celebrations for ghey nuptials, "leave Alec Baldwin alone", and chatter about Kim Kardashian's baby.
You don't need focus group research on LIV's, just look at your Facebook page
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 10:04 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at June 30, 2013 10:05 PM (aahGq)
I'll say it right here and now: The kid had it coming. Happy now?
Any time you assault somebody else, unless you have full knowledge of what they're capable of and what they have available to use, you are taking your life in your hands. Call it bad judgement. Call it suicide. Call it evolution in action. Call it teenage stupidity. Put me in the same circumstance and I'd plug the kid, too. I'm not going to die because some 17-year-old idiot on testosterone overload had a lousy upbringing.
If 17-year-old Troyriser was that stupid and ill-raised, consider yourself lucky to be alive.
Posted by: epobirs at June 30, 2013 10:06 PM (kcfmt)
He is going to hate it. He has always been a union worker, over time was voluntary. He had no idea what it's like to work in an environment where they expect you to be available at any time.
Don't get me wrong, he's a hard worker, a model employee, and he works 12 hour days, 6 days a week most weeks. But it's his choice to do so.
The money is huge, and the project is interesting, but...he is going to ultimately hate it. We had our life planned out perfectly and he's want to upend it all and drag me into it. It's not like I can just get a little place out of Asheville and he can come home on the weekend. I will have to do major entertaining and lots of charity work and schmoozing and I am tired of all that.
Throw the hot little brunette 20 something recruiter in to the mix and I am just very suspicious of the whole thing, plus my mama is getting too old to be by herself, which is why we bought this house next door to her.
Pissed. I am.
And sleepy. Night y'all!
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 01, 2013 02:01 AM (2/T/u)
G'night, Tammy! Come back soon.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:06 PM (T1005)
Man, 117 degrees with no a/c has to really degrade what could be prime hobo meat
Posted by: AoSHQ Meatpacking Co at June 30, 2013 10:07 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 10:08 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 01, 2013 01:56 AM (cc
I did the same stupid thing, and said the same exact thing. I was out there on july1st a few years back. I will never frigging do that shit again. I got burned on every damn thing I touched outside. The heat from the sidewalk radiated through the soles of mt shoes within 5 minutes. You sit in the car with the AC and feel this pitiful little cold breeze that felt like it came from a straw, because the entire fucking car was radiating heat like it was a cable car in hell. Fuuuuck that place.
Posted by: Berserker at July 01, 2013 02:03 AM (FMbng)
That's the sort of weird effects I've been recalling when all the stupid peckerwood shits have been saying "115 is just like 100, but warmer."
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:08 PM (T1005)
That looks like an Apache hovering over the crowd. Egypt also BUILDS M1 Abrams from what I recall.
Just what we want islamic fascits to have. Fucking obama...
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at June 30, 2013 10:08 PM (aahGq)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2013 10:09 PM (9GG/0)
I'll say it right here and now: The kid had it coming. Happy now?
Any time you assault somebody else, unless you have full knowledge of what they're capable of and what they have available to use, you are taking your life in your hands. Call it bad judgement. Call it suicide. Call it evolution in action. Call it teenage stupidity. Put me in the same circumstance and I'd plug the kid, too. I'm not going to die because some 17-year-old idiot on testosterone overload had a lousy upbringing.
If 17-year-old Troyriser was that stupid and ill-raised, consider yourself lucky to be alive.
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2013 02:06 AM (kcfmt)
Hell, yeah -- I'm readin' you 5-by-5. Full signal, full clarity, and we are in complete synchronization.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:10 PM (T1005)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 10:10 PM (vgd4f)
Just realized I am a whining bitch, God Bless our homeless people in Vegas, they get no respite!!
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 01, 2013 01:48 AM
Man, 117 degrees with no a/c has to really degrade what could be prime hobo meat
Posted by: AoSHQ Meatpacking Co at July 01, 2013 02:07 AM (/9IC1)
Actually, they live underground -- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8239319.stm
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:12 PM (T1005)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 10:14 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at June 30, 2013 10:14 PM (2vl2+)
Then you'll love it here!
Posted by: Venus Tourism Bureau at July 01, 2013 02:10 AM (9GG/0)
I mentioned that they were idiots, ja? If you've experienced both, there is a palpable difference as obvious as a slap in the face.
Of course, that's also true between 100 degrees in 70% humidity and 100 degrees in 95% humidity -- might as well be on different planets.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:16 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's puffy scamper, formerly MrCaniac at June 30, 2013 10:17 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2013 10:19 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 01, 2013 02:14 AM (vgd4f)
Good lord -- there are LV-area homeless who are out in the elements?!?!? Aren't there shelters?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:19 PM (T1005)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 10:19 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 10:19 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 10:22 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 01, 2013 02:19 AM (9GG/0)
No worries. It's just so freakin' obvious that someone has never experienced both when they say something stupid like, "115 is just like 100, but warmer." It immediately brands their mouth-spoutings as completely worthless and uninformed.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:22 PM (T1005)
Good evening chem Jeff! Posted by: MountainTurtle at July 01, 2013 02:14 AM
Pictures of boobies that just got a chilled t-shirt put over them would be much appreciated by The Horde
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 10:22 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2013 02:08 AM (T1005)
yeah no kidding. 100 feels like winter compared to 115. Oh its dry heat.... yeah dry your fucking ass. I have seen my share of 100 degree days here, and nothing ever came to remotely close to that "dry" 115. That shit was flat out retarded. It was like sitting in a oven sucking on a blow dryer. My asshole brother had to get married out there. He lives down the jersey shore, but noooo thats not good enough. Hey why don't we go some place with no fucking ocean thats 30 degrees hotter.
Posted by: Berserker at June 30, 2013 10:22 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 10:24 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 01, 2013 02:22 AM (vgd4f)
Ow.
I've gotten so cynical since SCoaMF got elected, that I feel that any cash given to anyone destitute will inevitably end up as a line item in the NSA's slush fund for monitoring my anti-Statist blog-comments on AoSHQ.....but I'd probably hand 'em out water bottles. Ouch.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:26 PM (T1005)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 10:27 PM (/9IC1)
not going to happenPosted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 10:27 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: holygoat at July 01, 2013 01:36 AM (IGIFh)
I didn't apologize for being wrong. I apologized for taking an antagonistic stance that negated the whole point of reasoned argument in the first place. The facts bear me out. Zimmerman, a member of the Neighborhood Watch, got out of his vehicle with a flashlight and gun and headed on foot down that sidewalk that started at the end of the cul de sac, which was the most likely direction Martin would take. Zimmerman turned around and began walking back to his vehicle only after the police, with whom he was talking, told him not to do that. Martin came forward and attacked Zimmerman just as he turned around. Martin's attack was a serious assault. One of the deadliest things you can do in a street fight is kick or pound the back or front of someone's head into the pavement. Zimmerman, in fear for his life, shot Martin.
The sequence of events I just described are derived from Zimmerman's own account. That action (getting out of his vehicle and heading in Martin's likeliest direction) compromised Zimmerman and brought about everything that happened after. That isn't conjecture or supposition.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 10:28 PM (ptcFO)
http://tinyurl.com/l8uqksb
Posted by: kbdabear at July 01, 2013 02:27 AM (/9IC1)
Damn, I wanted to lick my monitor.
Posted by: Berserker at June 30, 2013 10:28 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: troyriser at July 01, 2013 02:28 AM
St Trayvon was free to walk wherever he pleased whenever he pleased, and Zimmerman was not allowed to leave his vehicle in his own complex under any circumstances
We got it
Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2013 10:31 PM (/9IC1)
The shooting was not 100% clean as Z exited his vehicle to pursue, but it should allow him to be acquited.
In the end, him leaving his vehicle does not justify the violent attack upon his person by Trayvon.
My verdict? Nice shot Mr. Z.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at June 30, 2013 10:32 PM (tCook)
how is your summer going so far?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2013 10:32 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 30, 2013 10:33 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:33 PM (T1005)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2013 10:36 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 01, 2013 02:36 AM (9GG/0)
I used to dream of endowing a chair at my alma mater in my will. I now want to flee the state to avoid entanglement with educational boondoggles like the UC system.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 10:38 PM (J4Z4U)
hmm.... the Cthulhu Endowment? would this be for a professorship in marine biology? or religious studies?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2013 10:40 PM (9GG/0)
cthulhu, well I make it a point to donate to my two alma maters every
year (only specifically designated to the chemistry department of
course, not for general slush fund) and then a smattering here and
there. but that is about all that I would donate anyway. so, I guess not
Posted by: chemjeff at July 01, 2013 02:36 AM (9GG/0)
I used to dream of endowing a chair at my alma mater in my will. I now want to flee the state to avoid entanglement with educational boondoggles like the UC system.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2013 02:38 AM (T1005)
Maybe I'll leave some to "The Ludwig von Mises Institute" -- things would have to get bent pretty far before they'd go Statist....although it'd probably happen.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:42 PM (T1005)
hmm.... the Cthulhu Endowment? would this be for a professorship in marine biology? or religious studies?
Posted by: chemjeff at July 01, 2013 02:40 AM (9GG/0)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:45 PM (T1005)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 10:48 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: Adriane ... at June 30, 2013 10:49 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Adriane ... at June 30, 2013 10:50 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 01, 2013 02:50 AM (Jv4FA)
I thought you were nearer the coast -- where are you?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:51 PM (T1005)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 10:53 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 01, 2013 02:47 AM (9GG/0)
Every so often, you seen an opening for something that strikes you as funnier-than-hell, but a wee bit esoteric. Nice to see that they occasionally hit their targets.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:53 PM (T1005)
yes indeed it's good to get a break
but you are principal too? Do principals ever get breaks?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2013 10:53 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 01, 2013 02:53 AM (Jv4FA)
I trust that the house and grounds are well-watered.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:55 PM (T1005)
Posted by: DAve at June 30, 2013 10:56 PM (albkL)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2013 10:57 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: DAve at July 01, 2013 02:56 AM (albkL)
Was faculty available to make use of your endowment?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 10:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 10:59 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: Adriane ... at June 30, 2013 10:59 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Adriane ... at June 30, 2013 11:00 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 11:04 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: DAve at June 30, 2013 11:06 PM (albkL)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 11:08 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 11:09 PM (T1005)
Posted by: DAve at June 30, 2013 11:10 PM (albkL)
Posted by: Adriane ... at June 30, 2013 11:11 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 11:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 30, 2013 11:13 PM (J4Z4U)
Posted by: Adriane ... at June 30, 2013 11:14 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at June 30, 2013 11:18 PM (dh83Q)
Well, you're posting so you made it safely back, right? Long trail? Enjoyable? Sights seen?
Posted by: MountainTurtle at July 01, 2013 03:13 AM (J4Z4U)
Our "home park" is Sanborn County Park, Santa Clara, CA -- http://tinyurl.com/6uunzp2 . The "em eucser" trail is from the parking next to the Peterson Grove, across the little mess by the stage, up the Peterson trail to the Sanborn, across Audrey Creek on the Sanborn and back down to the car. We did it once in 0:35, but today it was more like 1:10. It's always enjoyable -- today, we heard some Stellar's jays that actually sang instead of squawking and saw a nicely patterned snake near the Sanborn junction.
When we're feeling rambunctious, we go up the Sanborn past Audrey Creek and the Peterson junction, and continue way up to the San Andreas. Then we come down the San Andreas. That's the "big loop". There's a quarter mile detour up the mountain from the "big loop" that gets you to the Todd Creek Redwoods, which are really nice.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 11:27 PM (T1005)
OK watch this: http://tinyurl.com/mqbyyqp
and tell me what would happen if instead of Justin bieber they said these things about barack obama...
Posted by: DAve at June 30, 2013 11:28 PM (albkL)
Your boss is sven??
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 01, 2013 03:18 AM (dh83Q)
No, but that is how CPAs talk to each other in Califuckya.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 11:29 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 11:29 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 30, 2013 11:31 PM (aB+tO)
Posted by: DAve at July 01, 2013 03:30 AM (albkL)
Like any nice hash, I hope it lasts....but have no say in it, either.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 11:31 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Deety Dean at June 30, 2013 11:45 PM (9zJ6x)
Please note that
"we don't need you to do that"
is not the same as
"it would be criminal for you to do that".
JFC
Posted by: bob at June 30, 2013 11:51 PM (eGb5D)
We got it
Posted by: kbdabear at July 01, 2013 02:31 AM (/9IC1)
You're implicitly arguing a strawman. We're talking context, specific situations. When Zimmerman told the police on the phone that he had left his vehicle and was proceeding on foot (to check house numbers in order to furnish a specific location), the police directed him to stop and go back to his vehicle, which he proceeded to do until he was confronted and attacked by Martin. So yes, in this specific instance, Zimmerman was told by police not to walk around freely in his own neighborhood. You think the police were wrong in this instance? Make your case. Tell the police that Zimmerman had every right to check out house numbers or whatever. Because freedom. See how it flies.
Posted by: troyriser at June 30, 2013 11:54 PM (ptcFO)
You're still here?!?!? What time zone are you in?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2013 11:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: DAve at July 01, 2013 12:01 AM (albkL)
The person on the 911 call did not have the authority to command GZ to do anything.
The person on the 911 call did not (even without authority) command GZ to do anything.
"the police directed him to stop and go back to his vehicle"
Again, the person on the 911 call had no authority to "direct" a fucking thing.
Yes. Because FREEDOM.
Posted by: bob at July 01, 2013 12:09 AM (eGb5D)
Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2013 12:10 AM (SkhKv)
Not true. The 911 dispatcher was not a police officer and she admitted during the trial that her statement was not a command and further that she had no authority to order Zimmerman to stop anyway. Zimmerman was free to walk around just the same as Martin was.
Posted by: Mætenloch at July 01, 2013 12:11 AM (XkotV)
Please show me any evidence that an actual policeman (or woman) lawfully (or unlawfully) ordered GZ to return to his vehicle.
1. Was it a person with authority to give orders to civilians?
2. Was it a lawful order?
3. Was it an order?
Waiting.
Posted by: bob Desdtroyer of Threads at July 01, 2013 12:17 AM (eGb5D)
Posted by: D. Hopper at July 01, 2013 12:20 AM (UsR5V)
This should be easy-peasy.
Show the evidence that GZ was given a lawful order by a person with authority to issue such an order for GZ to return to his vehicle.
Apparently my work here is done.
My apologies to Morons with brains.
Posted by: Bobymandius Destroyer of Threads at July 01, 2013 12:40 AM (eGb5D)
Posted by: DAve at July 01, 2013 04:01 AM (albkL)
No, I'm not a liar, and no, I don't consider myself an agitator, and no, I didn't fabricate anything. And yes, it was an implicit command given the authority of the person saying it. If a cop told you to desist in a certain action by saying, 'We don't need you to do that', under those circumstances, would you continue to do that, whatever 'that' is? Not likely. Say you're in the military and your superior says, 'Please report to such -and-such person', does the use of the word 'please' connote an option, one which you could refuse?
Calling me a liar and engaging in granular semantic nitpicking doesn't prove your argument, although I loved your line, "That's a command, at least in English, at which I'm pretty good." You've got a kind of a meta-irony going there, really: the stilted construction, the clunky syntax, the manifest contradiction between exaggerated self-appraisal and cold, harsh reality. You should write a book. Critics will love it. They'll think you're doing it on purpose.
And yes, as it happens, I do have more positive and productive things to do. It's just that when I'm convinced I'm right, I can't let it go. But this? I'm letting it go, anyway.
Posted by: troyriser at July 01, 2013 12:47 AM (ptcFO)
The Marine Corps has the "Eagle, Globe, and Anchor".
What should the Moron Corps have?
Posted by: Bobymandius Destroyer of Threads at July 01, 2013 12:50 AM (eGb5D)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at July 01, 2013 12:55 AM (tCook)
Bitch,
The person on the other end of the 911 call was not anyone with authority to command anyone to do anything. She could have said "don't shoot that dog", and the crime would have been shooting the dog, not disobeying a call center attendant.
Quit saying "the police" when you mean the 911 attendant.
No disrespect to that person, I know it is a stressful job. But you are dissembling. NO POLICE OFFICER ORDERED GZ INTO HIS VEHICLE.
As Joe Krummey would say, "Deal Eith That".
Posted by: Bobymandius Destroyer of Threads at July 01, 2013 12:55 AM (eGb5D)
Posted by: Bobymandius Destroyer of Threads at July 01, 2013 12:57 AM (eGb5D)
Better that a Big Chicken Dinner!
It could work!
I have some artsy friends!
Posted by: Bobymandius Destroyer of Threads at July 01, 2013 12:59 AM (eGb5D)
That Zimmerman was given anything remotely like a command by a person with any authority greater than advisory is demonstrably, factually untrue. To perpetuate such a claim would be to engage in the act of lying. At which juncture you become compared to a cloth container of feces is more vague but you are assuredly on that path.
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2013 01:03 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2013 01:07 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Bobymandius Destroyer of Threads at July 01, 2013 01:11 AM (eGb5D)
Posted by: Bobymandius Destroyer of Threads at July 01, 2013 01:14 AM (eGb5D)
1: Pretty much all of this is wrong. Bad things happen all the time to people who have exercised good judgment. People make good, well reasoned choices with the best of intentions and things still go to shit on the regular because they are cancelled out by people who make bad choices (or just because fate has a hard-on for them that day). So your post hoc standard is an irrational basis to judge one's actions in pretty much any situation... let alone this one. If Martin had assaulted someone else, invaded a house, or raped someone your logic would dictate that Zimmerman would have exercised poor judgment in NOT following Martin even though he had exactly the same information on which to make his decision.
And to the extent you could even remotely claim that Zimmerman exercised poor judgment here it is of the same sort that a woman exercises when she dresses skimpily and ends up being raped. He was acting within his rights and harming no one when he himself was harmed. You don't get to blame the victim even if they put themselves in a dangerous situation. Especially, as in this case, when they put themselves in danger to help others.
2: But even if we accept your standard and "measure by results" then you are making a value judgment that one less thug who jumps people being on the streets is a bad thing. I could easily argue that the results here are pretty close to optimal. Yeah, we could hope Trayvon would have found Jesus and reformed had he lived, but Zimmerman is not required to give up his right to walk around his own neighborhood unmolested, much less give up his life, in order for us to find this out. Natural selection is a bitch and she isn't big about allowing do-overs.
3: Martin didn't just "end up dead." That rather inelegantly elides over the whole assault and act of self-defense. Martin was the instigator of his own demise.
4: Far from taking the high moral ground you are really just counteracting the only good which would have come out of this had it not been politicized... which is namely that thugs would be more likely to think twice before they commit acts of violence lest they be shot to death. Jumping on the bandwagon to send a mixed message and give them justification to act as they do is the antithesis of civilized behavior and is a large reason our society is so fucked up. It is the recipe to maximize future tragedies.
And the left absolutely hates for there to be consequences for bad acts unless they are the ones doling out the punishment. They want you to think that the only legitimate actions are the ones that they take and thus assure you remain docile and compliant. Only the police can act.
5: Zimmerman was a hero by any definition that makes any sense. He went out of his way to see to the well being of his neighbors and he put his life on the line for them when they wouldn't even answer his screams for help. For at least some amount of time he followed a potentially dangerous individual so that the police would know where to look for that person. You don't get to blame Zimmerman for being smart enough to be armed and you don't get to excuse Trayvon for being stupid enough to think he didn't need to be --- or being enough of a punk to start swinging. There is no moral equivalence here. Zimmerman did exactly what we would hope any decent person would do.
Posted by: Thatch at July 01, 2013 01:21 AM (qYvEa)
I assume you are addressing Bitch.
Yours is a great summary with good commentary on some of the depravity driving the current dramatics. Thanks.
And now, really, Winchester.
Posted by: Bobymandius Destroyer of Threads at July 01, 2013 01:27 AM (eGb5D)
Posted by: waldo at July 01, 2013 01:34 AM (hc19V)
Has anyone had carpel tunnel problems? Since we went paperless at work, my right first knuckle, wrist and arm have been bugging me. This weekend has gotten worse. Bad thing is I am employed as a defense paralegal.
Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2013 01:44 AM (SkhKv)
Protesters stormed and ransacked Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood headquarters in Cairo.
I will put a link up on the morning thread if Vic doesn't have it.
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 01:45 AM (GoIUi)
so to suffer the sling and arrows of fate -- like we have a choice
or take arms against a sea of trouble -- ya hold back the sea, we can do that
and in resisting to die -- ya well see, there is resisting and then there is resisting
and that whole dieing thing 'cuz ya know it might get better tomorrow
so cowards all we talk amongst ourselves, and drink
and it's morning again -- ugly ugly morning to endure, to strive, to ..
to fuck it. . . what difference does it make.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 01, 2013 01:47 AM (nFq1n)
Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2013 01:51 AM (SkhKv)
Or, just sign up for disability! (Just kidding.)
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 01:56 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: DAve at July 01, 2013 01:58 AM (albkL)
Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2013 02:01 AM (SkhKv)
I wonder if those files have anything like communications from Barack Obama?
By the way, the building was stripped bare. The protesters took the furniture and gave it to poor people.
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 02:02 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 01, 2013 02:03 AM (/+EhN)
Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2013 02:04 AM (SkhKv)
I am a shorter person and typing at a regular computer keyboard is awkward and uncomfortable for me. I jury-rigged my own system with the keyboard at a slant at a lower elevation than normal. I needed to do this because I do a lot of typing for my business.
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 02:05 AM (GoIUi)
there is an exercise you can do
put arms out straight like pushing on wall
fingers up, palms out then flex wrist fingers down , palms toward you
stretching tendons in wrist
repeating, stretching trying to extend range of movement in wrists
I get it in my thumb, from previous work, and from gripping computer mouse
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 01, 2013 02:07 AM (nFq1n)
I also follow some Egyptians (and have since the original trouble broke out in Cairo). That s where I discovered what happened to the furniture.
I just saw a British reporter who said the HQ was completely gutted and some areas also were burned.
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 02:07 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2013 02:11 AM (SkhKv)
see telegraph.co.uk, and guardian.co.uk
Muslim Brotherhood national headquarters over run by protestors
Telegraph says protestors are "Salafi movements, and a coalition of opponents"
yet it seems that both 'Salafi' and Muslim Brotherhood are Sunni
google and bing serve up only US media (apparently presuming I'm only interested in US media) you have to go to UK news media, plus they are 6-8 hours ahead of us.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 01, 2013 02:12 AM (nFq1n)
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 01, 2013 02:14 AM (Zg2ou)
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 02:17 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: phunctor at July 01, 2013 02:17 AM (wXcOC)
sleep four hours
play until sleepy
sleep four hours or as needed.
'power napping' if you sleep mid morning or mid afternoon, or early evening
'senile' if you are over 65
'insomnia' if you only sleep 3-4 hours at night
'split sleeper berth' if you are an old school long haul trick driver
(caffeine should kick in any time now)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 01, 2013 02:21 AM (nFq1n)
I see Troy is still trying to peddle his lies.
In other news, the Syrian rebels that we just have to help beheaded a Catholic Bishop. More of Obumbles Hopen Change.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 01, 2013 02:26 AM (0IhFx)
should be
The deep rift in Egyptian society between the Islamists on the one hand, with the Muslim Brotherhood largely supported by more radical Salafi movements, and a coalition of opponents demanding "civil" rule
telegraph.co.uk
http://preview.tinyurl.com/m8l9cua
I still don't know who the protestors are.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 01, 2013 02:32 AM (nFq1n)
Miss Marple-
I was being tongue-in-cheek. The crazy shift work I do has thrown my sleep cycle all off. Think I'll be back to normal eventually.
For the link, just cut-and-paste the url of the website you want to reference into the url block of the post form. at another blog we call it-lun (link under name). the name should be highlighted and the link goes to your reference.
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 01, 2013 02:35 AM (Zg2ou)
that is about as advanced as I want to get here, cause I really don't want to go to the barrel.
but I miss ampersands &&&&&
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 01, 2013 02:38 AM (Zg2ou)
Posted by: Chromoly Man at July 01, 2013 02:39 AM (/+EhN)
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 01, 2013 02:45 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2013 02:45 AM (SkhKv)
Look for Five Roses tea.
I don't know where you will find it since it comes from South Africa and there is only one store around here that carries it. Maybe it is on Amazon.
The stuff is never bitter. No matter how much you abuse it, the tea never gets bitter. I don't know how they do it. You can brew it one day and then pour it into a cup and microwave it the next day and, while it is not as good as freshly brewed, it is not bitter. I don't know of any other tea that is like that.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at July 01, 2013 03:46 AM (31Nrp)
And yes, as it happens, I do have more positive and productive things to do. It's just that when I'm convinced I'm right, I can't let it go. But this? I'm letting it go, anyway.
Posted by: troyriser at July 01, 2013 04:47 AM (ptcFO)
I don't really care what your overall reputation on this site USED to be. There isn't much left of it anymore. In my experience, people who are as arrogant and sanctimonious when expressing their opinion on an issue as you've been on this one, despite lacking knowledge of the issue, tend to be from the left side of the political aisle. Your constant appeal to emotion while ignoring key facts and details, which is what you have often done when commenting on this case, is aggravating, to say the least.
Maybe one of us should have told you that you're acting like a liberal when you first stated with you comments about this case a couple of days ago, as that may have scared you straight. The "I'm convinced I'm right" comment pretty much sounds like the verbatim comments you would hear from a far Left global warming or 9/11 conspiracy believer. Though you seem to have tried to get more of the facts of the case correct over the past couple of days after some of us exposed your ignorance of many of them, you still don't have a complete grasp of the facts, are poorly analyzing them, and seem to be including spin from those who want Zimmerman put on Death Row. It's your cross to bear but you've expended a lot of effort and sacrificed a lot of your reputation discussing this case. You'll have to live with the self-inflicted damage to your reputation that is the result.
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