September 06, 2013
— CDR M
Hey there's some rocket action going on tonight on the East Coast. NASA's Lunar Atmosphere Dust Environment Explorer (LADEE) will blast off from Wallops Island, VA tonight around 11:27pm.
The speeding rocket – barring any clouds – should be visible from eastern North Carolina, Richmond, Va., Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, Hartford, Conn., and Boston. It will be harder to see from eastern West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Binghamton, N.Y., Syracuse, N.Y., Montpelier, Vt., Bangor, Maine and Presque Isle, Maine.
Morons not in viewing areas will find links to watch it online in the above link.

The Walking Dead College Course
University of California, Irvine is sponsoring a free, online college course called Society, Science, and Survival: Lessons From AMC's The Walking Dead. I may sign up to check it out. I know I could spend an entire year talking about the mistakes our intrepid cast have made on the show.
Conducted by four Irvine professors, with the help of key clips from the show itself, the new Walking Dead online course will cover such topics as the spread of infectious diseases and interventions, social orders, structures, and roles (i.e., locations such as the farm, Woodbury, the prison, and leaders like Rick and the Governor), managing stress in disaster situations, and — of course — nutrition in a post-apocalyptic world.
The Walking Dead returns October 13th. Season 4 trailer below.
Mad Max
So here's the look for the new Mad Max movie.

h/t
Nicotine Ban
Pure genius. Not. Flagler County, FL bans nicotine. Note they don't have the stones to outright ban cigarettes, just nicotine. Never mind that you just denied smokers access to devices that actually help them to quit smoking.
The justification for these policies is tied to the increased health-risk associated with tobacco use, especially with regards to employment and health insurance. A provision in the Affordable Care Act, or ACA, allows smokes to be charged 50 percent more than non-smokers by insurance companies. Thus, when employers exclude smokers, they can save money on employee health insurance.
Do these numbnuts realize that there is a big difference between tobacco use and those that are getting doses of nicotine via gum, patch or electronic cigarettes???
And of course here's a typical politician caveat. You can't have it but we will exempt ourselves.
In Flagler County the 635 current employees are exempt from the ban. The County Commission is also exempt including “those individuals who may run for office in the future.”
In other banning news, San Antonio passes ordnance banning anyone who opposes homosexuality from running for office, receiving city contract. The assimilation continues.
Twerking Is Dangerous
Pro-tip. Lock your doors.
TSA Tomfoolery
I'm pretty sure a terrorist can afford $85 to skip the screening process, at least as it pertains to having to take off your shoes and remove your electronics. I'm sure within a year one can pay the TSA $50 to not have their tatas touched or their junk adjusted.
Literary Cocktails
Great cocktail moments in famous literature.
Trampoline Video
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Pity I can't pick a passenger for that Missile Launch....
"errrrr uhhhh where?"
To the moon alice...
to the moon
Posted by: Jamie LicksGore at September 06, 2013 05:50 PM (9jfyN)
it looks like a badly shot GAP commercial
That is all
Posted by: Jamie LicksGore at September 06, 2013 05:51 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 06, 2013 05:52 PM (u82oZ)
I wish more politicians ran FROM office...
there's a Constitutional challenge in there and a good one actually....
we'll know if we are a nation of rights in about 18 months
Posted by: sven10077 at September 06, 2013 05:53 PM (9jfyN)
Evening morons.
Last time posting this bleg: Flying into Denver tomorrow for a wedding in Estes Park on Sunday. If there are any morons in the area who want to meet for lunch Saturday in Denver, or dinner Saturday in Estes Park, or have recommendations for where to eat, let me know here or hit me up at conservativecrank at gmail dot com. So far, the Buckhorn has been suggested, but having just got off a plane I don't know that a high-end steakhouse will be where I'm headed.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 06, 2013 05:55 PM (UR1wn)
Posted by: joncelli at September 06, 2013 05:56 PM (H6iDZ)
I wasn't supposed to be working all last weekend.. but I did (albeit from home) and my bosses didn't even notice.
I'm just glad I still got a job.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 06, 2013 05:56 PM (AYOav)
Posted by: Beto at September 06, 2013 05:56 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: fluffy at September 06, 2013 05:57 PM (TR3DI)
Posted by: AltonJackson & The Middle Class feat. Working Families at September 06, 2013 05:57 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: toby928© at September 06, 2013 05:57 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Beto at September 06, 2013 05:59 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: duke at September 06, 2013 05:59 PM (rr0cL)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 06, 2013 05:59 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mac Flecknoe at September 06, 2013 05:59 PM (1wI7y)
..........
Anyone got proof of that? I really think that is incorrect.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 06, 2013 05:59 PM (AYOav)
Posted by: Regular Guy at September 06, 2013 05:59 PM (N3Al8)
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 06, 2013 06:00 PM (BLAfs)
Posted by: Mac Flecknoe at September 06, 2013 09:59 PM (1wI7y)
What, for the way he spilled his fuckin' guts? I don't necessarily blame him, in his situation, but some guys didn't . . . just sayin'
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 06:00 PM (8lmkt)
The dog vs water hose is GREAT! I laughed at that so loud the Grumpy Grandma came out to look. Well done CDR, well done.
What are we drinking tonite? Scotch and a cigar for me; and I am happy to be in your witty company tonight mo-rons!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 06, 2013 06:01 PM (4Vr+0)
Forgive the length, so I get a call from a friend who is driving my house to tell me there is a van off the road and by my fence. I go out to see what happened, a guy (probably from India, or maybe Pakistan, his wife was covered, but in a cross between a burqa and a sari) was driving a van, the tire blew he plowed off the road, knocked over a fairly good sized tree, smashed into a rock retaining wall, pushed a couple of boulders off the wall, and said rocks and his van ended up in my fence.
It is a good thing my friend called to tell me that. The guy was just calling a tow truck, not the police, was planning on having it towed and that was that. I called the police who came and took a report and let the city know that they had a big tree mess to clean up.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 06, 2013 06:01 PM (RZ8pf)
I love that too!!! Have to keep looking at it. What is that, a French Bulldog or one of those Boston thingies? Great little dog.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 06:02 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Beto at September 06, 2013 06:03 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 06:03 PM (8lmkt)
Yikes!
You can weigh 900 lbs and get the same rate. You can have cancer and are forced to have the same rates as healthy people.. But smoke?
Geebus
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 06, 2013 06:03 PM (AYOav)
Posted by: toby928© at September 06, 2013 06:04 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Astronaut Dave Bowman at September 06, 2013 06:04 PM (CWtG7)
Posted by: Molly k. at September 06, 2013 06:04 PM (sVKy/)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at September 06, 2013 06:05 PM (6Zy+s)
Posted by: duke at September 06, 2013 06:06 PM (rr0cL)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 06, 2013 06:06 PM (4Vr+0)
I love that too!!! Have to keep looking at it. What is that, a French Bulldog or one of those Boston thingies? Great little dog.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 10:02 PM (8lmkt)
That's a Boston Bat Eared Terrier
Posted by: Regular Guy at September 06, 2013 06:06 PM (N3Al8)
Posted by: logprof at September 06, 2013 06:07 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: toby928© at September 06, 2013 06:07 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Mindy at September 06, 2013 06:08 PM (b9xr2)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 06, 2013 06:08 PM (KDq5l)
San Antonio city council needs to lay off the tequila. That law won't survive a court challenge, that's obvious. 1st Amendment, bitches.
And they just pissed off the voters. Out on their asses next election.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at September 06, 2013 06:08 PM (NCc1Z)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 06, 2013 06:08 PM (NHMrq)
Posted by: joncelli at September 06, 2013 06:08 PM (H6iDZ)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 06, 2013 06:09 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 06, 2013 06:09 PM (8cMnP)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 06, 2013 06:09 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 06, 2013 06:10 PM (4Vr+0)
Posted by: Mel G. at September 06, 2013 06:10 PM (TR3DI)
Posted by: The Department of We're Smarter Tahn You at September 06, 2013 06:10 PM (fvV0D)
Are you kidding? He'll be celebrating this one. I'm surprised Ace keeps the fucker around.
Posted by: Gman at September 06, 2013 06:11 PM (UkbKS)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 06, 2013 06:11 PM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 06, 2013 06:11 PM (KDq5l)
Posted by: Mel Gibson at September 06, 2013 06:12 PM (rr0cL)
Posted by: Beto at September 06, 2013 10:09 PM (MhA4j)
--I'm delighted now to have Jameis Winston to cheer for; can't wait to see him play Clemson (well, not sure if I'll get to see it but I'll try). Manziel's more of a jackass than a turd. Still, you better believe I'll be cheering for him when he plays the Tide next week.
Posted by: logprof at September 06, 2013 06:12 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Mindy at September 06, 2013 06:12 PM (b9xr2)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 06, 2013 06:13 PM (8JJ6O)
"In other banning news, San Antonio passes ordnance banning anyone who opposes homosexuality from running for office, receiving city contract."
So what interior decorators are going to design the new office décor, mmm? Straight people?
Posted by: Mr. Dave at September 06, 2013 06:13 PM (NCc1Z)
Posted by: fluffy at September 06, 2013 06:13 PM (TR3DI)
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 10:03 PM (8lmkt)
spill it, sounds like aball-bearing issue
Posted by: duke at September 06, 2013 10:06 PM (rr0cL)
I'll guess it is more of an exhaust issue.
Posted by: Ammo Dump at September 06, 2013 06:14 PM (GgPam)
Posted by: AltonJackson & The Middle Class feat. Working Families at September 06, 2013 06:14 PM (JMmQ9)
These recent remakes of the 80's movies haven't been all that hot. Not bad, but failed to outdo what was already done.
I agree with the Moron-consensus; if yer gonna do a remake, remake a bad movie.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 06, 2013 10:11 PM (KDq5l)
--Speaking of, does the Evil Dead remake blow chunks? I've seen it listed at Red Box but have not been tempted to rent it.
Posted by: logprof at September 06, 2013 06:14 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: t-bird at September 06, 2013 06:14 PM (FcR7P)
***
hold yer horses. I'm climbing inside the cake this very minute
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 06, 2013 06:14 PM (fvV0D)
So, what do I do? Get a spare key made and hope that works? Go to the dealer (shudders) or the Pep Boys tomorrow (assuming the key will turn again) and have a new ignition lock put in? I fuckin' hate this shit.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 06:14 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 06:14 PM (WjS9o)
Forgive the length, so I get a call from a friend who is driving my house to tell me there is a van off the road and by my fence. I go out to see what happened, a guy (probably from India, or maybe Pakistan, his wife was covered, but in a cross between a burqa and a sari) was driving a van, the tire blew he plowed off the road, knocked over a fairly good sized tree, smashed into a rock retaining wall, pushed a couple of boulders off the wall, and said rocks and his van ended up in my fence.
It is a good thing my friend called to tell me that. The guy was just calling a tow truck, not the police, was planning on having it towed and that was that. I called the police who came and took a report and let the city know that they had a big tree mess to clean up.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 06, 2013 10:01 PM (RZ8pf)
That's the sort of friend to have. Good thing you caught him!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 06:16 PM (T1005)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 06, 2013 06:16 PM (KDq5l)
Crossbreed Supertuck.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 06:17 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: toby928© at September 06, 2013 06:17 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 06, 2013 06:17 PM (UR1wn)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 06, 2013 06:17 PM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 06, 2013 06:19 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 10:14 PM (8lmkt)
I nailed it. It's an exhaust issue.
Posted by: Ammo Dump at September 06, 2013 06:19 PM (GgPam)
****
Call some junk yards and see if they can find you an ignition with a key from a car with less miles than yours. When they buy salvage, the keys often come with.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 06, 2013 06:19 PM (fvV0D)
Looks like I am ~100 mi. too far west to see the launch. You might get a look though.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 06:19 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 06, 2013 06:20 PM (euACX)
Posted by: duke at September 06, 2013 06:20 PM (rr0cL)
Do you attempt a mind meld by grabbing a guy's ear?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 06, 2013 06:20 PM (74gkr)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 06, 2013 06:20 PM (KDq5l)
Posted by: EROWMER at September 06, 2013 06:21 PM (OONaw)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 06:21 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: t-bird at September 06, 2013 06:22 PM (FcR7P)
****
Be aware that the lock wears out too and a new key might fit worse than the one you have now.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 06, 2013 06:23 PM (fvV0D)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 06:23 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 06, 2013 06:23 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: toby928© at September 06, 2013 10:17 PM (QupBk)
yeah, I actually thought of that. didn't work. kept trying and it finally turned. they key actually looks pretty worn. thought i had a spare, but it would only be in one place. then i remembered, oh, yeah, it was in the stolen wallet. guess i will go over to the dealership tomorrow, God willing and the creek don't rise. i srsly hate this vehicular bullshit.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 06:23 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 06, 2013 06:24 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: joncelli at September 06, 2013 06:24 PM (H6iDZ)
Posted by: Cap'n Crunch at September 06, 2013 06:25 PM (VrVBw)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 10:21 PM (0axsw)
that's what I'm thinkin' . . . because if I go to the hardware store and they make a new key from the old, worn key, it's gonna be the same. dammit!! i love my ride, it's just gettin' on my nerves lately. or, it will work somehow over the weekend and, Monday, i email the dudes and say, oops, car problems, gotta deal with it, see ya tomorrow. that actually works in so many ways.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 06:26 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 06, 2013 06:26 PM (NHMrq)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 06:26 PM (0axsw)
100>> I'm gonna guess they're a little larger than the squirrel is used to....
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 06, 2013 06:27 PM (euACX)
Posted by: EROWMER at September 06, 2013 10:21 PM (OONaw)
maybe some sugar water and a little kitten nursing bottle? you gotta get something into the little darlin and soon.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 06:27 PM (8lmkt)
See: http://www.ehow.com/how_8428985_feed-infant-squirrels.html
and
http://tinyurl.com/ll2f22p
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 06:27 PM (aDwsi)
***
I can test the breasts in question with a quick motorboat exam...trust me I know what I'm doin'
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 06, 2013 06:28 PM (fvV0D)
So, what do I do? Get a spare key made and hope that works? Go to the dealer (shudders) or the Pep Boys tomorrow (assuming the key will turn again) and have a new ignition lock put in? I fuckin' hate this shit.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 10:14 PM (8lmkt)
How many keys are on your keychain? If few, it's probably wear and tear on the key and you might be able to find a good locksmith (hint: not Pep Boys or the dealer) to make you a new key to the old spec. This is especially attractive if there is information on the key about how it is keyed (little numbers). Alternatively, if you've got 5 pounds of keys on your keychain, you may have actually tweaked the cylinder over the 11 years you've been driving. That's substantially more expensive.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 06:28 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 06:28 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 06, 2013 06:28 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at September 06, 2013 06:29 PM (ma+gB)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 06, 2013 06:30 PM (j/FJV)
Tell me again how Texas is going to stay a red state?
Posted by: Gman at September 06, 2013 06:31 PM (UkbKS)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 06:31 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars[/i][/b][/s] at September 06, 2013 06:32 PM (Q7wUg)
It either gets a counter wave...has voter ID so "citizens" vote or it won't....
at this point fuck it...let it burn...you made this world donkey asses I aim to live in it...no more stopping the drunk driver let's go road dancing
Posted by: sven10077 at September 06, 2013 06:32 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 06, 2013 06:32 PM (KDq5l)
Posted by: Museisluse at September 06, 2013 06:32 PM (sEr47)
Posted by: joncelli at September 06, 2013 06:32 PM (H6iDZ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 06:32 PM (aDwsi)
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/SuperTuckDeluxe.aspx
I carry an M9 in one comfortably.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 06:33 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: the old man at September 06, 2013 06:33 PM (yL0v8)
"Tell me again how Texas is going to stay a red state?"
For every douche magnet like Austin or San Antonio you have several dozen middle sized cities like San Angelo and Lubbock (the icky towns that hippies don't like). I need not mention all the little towns scattered like birdshot all over the state.
Texas will be just fine, I'm sure.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 06, 2013 06:33 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: mpfs, Quisp Cereal Finder at September 06, 2013 06:33 PM (E1Xum)
I'd try shooting it full of lock lube graphite powder and run the key in and out a few times to spread it around. Home Depot has the stuff. It comes in a little squeezy tube that puffs it into the lock.
My crib's front door's lock got really balky a few months ago. Shot it full of that graphite dust shit and its smooth as silk now and the key slips right in.
If the key isn't fully 100% seated, it ain't gonna work. If the innards are sticky, it can keep a key from fully seating easily. That was one of my front door's (several) issues.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 06:34 PM (9MLX+)
Watching DJango Unchained. Meh. Tarantino is overrated.
Posted by: puddleglum at September 06, 2013 06:34 PM (8SsiG)
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at September 06, 2013 06:35 PM (kxSZr)
"Yeah but Labs are happy/insane. They feel nothing as they crash their way through living rooms full of vases, hallways full of kids, houses full of furniture. "
Or club your shins to death with those truncheons called tails.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 06, 2013 06:35 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 06, 2013 06:35 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 06, 2013 06:36 PM (KDq5l)
For every douche magnet like Austin or San Antonio
See, this is the first I'd heard of San Antonio being a douche-magnet of any real magnitude.
Personally, I'm amazed the asswipes that voted for this aren't decorating lampposts.
Posted by: Gman at September 06, 2013 06:36 PM (UkbKS)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 06, 2013 06:36 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: AltonJackson & The Middle Class feat. Working Families at September 06, 2013 06:36 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 06, 2013 06:37 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at September 06, 2013 06:37 PM (cWpCn)
Posted by: toby928© at September 06, 2013 06:37 PM (QupBk)
Ignition switches wear out. It isn't necessarily the key. You may have to have the ignition switch replaced.. ~ $150
It happened on my wife's Saturn at about 30,000 miles.. but she drives so little, the car was 9 years old at the time.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 06, 2013 06:37 PM (AYOav)
Posted by: weft cut-loop, so tote not 3'5" [/i] [/b] at September 06, 2013 06:38 PM (KDq5l)
And it appears we're being outnumbered by the left.
Posted by: Gman at September 06, 2013 06:38 PM (UkbKS)
Posted by: logprof at September 06, 2013 06:39 PM (bufJH)
San Antonio has been fubar for as long as I can remember. That place and Houston are places I just don't go, for any reason.
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at September 06, 2013 06:39 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 06, 2013 06:39 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 06, 2013 06:39 PM (FXU+N)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 06, 2013 06:41 PM (JNUY4)
Posted by: UWP at September 06, 2013 06:42 PM (vj51i)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 06, 2013 06:42 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Country Singer at September 06, 2013 06:42 PM (LGM9b)
Posted by: weft cut-loop, so tote not 3'5 at September 06, 2013 06:42 PM (KDq5l)
Good advice. Just be careful, and make sure everybody around know what you're doing before you start practicing the draw.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 06:42 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 06:43 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: NASA at September 06, 2013 06:44 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: CBD at September 06, 2013 06:45 PM (2Kdx7)
Posted by: eman at September 06, 2013 06:45 PM (AO9UG)
Evening 'rons and 'ettes.
The Israelite School of UPK is a black separatist religious sect that sets up outside Verizon Center Metro station in DC every couple of weeks to exercise their free (amplified) speech rights. Their basic belief is that whatever is wrong in the world is the white man's fault. It's thirty seconds cheap entertainment while I walk past them on my way home. They were out this afternoon: "The White Man got us into Vietnam. He got us into Iraq. The White Man is trying to get us into war in Syria."
Sure, go ahead, blame the Dunhams.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at September 06, 2013 06:45 PM (ViAyD)
Naval Aviation in the '60s was a different world. He lost three aircraft before he went into combat, then two more over there. No repercussions from our side. And I suspect, being a POW caused him to get stuck in that 60s mindset even after he got home.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 06:45 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 06, 2013 06:46 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: eman at September 06, 2013 06:46 PM (AO9UG)
Ignition switches wear out. It isn't necessarily the key. You may have to have the ignition switch replaced.. ~ $150
It happened on my wife's Saturn at about 30,000 miles.. but she drives so little, the car was 9 years old at the time.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, Jerry. I've only had the car for 4 years and about 16,000 miles. It's like new. I guess I will just jam it over to the fuckin' Pep Boys tomorrow and pay full shiksa retail. It just irks me, because my *real* mechanics are so much cheaper. They're just not open on weekends and, hullo, job and all that.
anyway, thanks so much, horde, for indulging me and for being kind enough to offer suggestions. let's move on.
boobehs, anyone? bacons?
lovin' me some Pope Francis, btw. i picture bammy curled up in the back of a closet crying like a little bitch. makes me feel good . . .
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 06:46 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 06, 2013 06:47 PM (DpI6K)
I wouldn't go that far, but it was pretty slow. And I didn't like the soap opera part. I never finished the first season. Did it ever get any better?
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 06:47 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: weft cut-loop, so tote not 3'5 at September 06, 2013 06:48 PM (KDq5l)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 06, 2013 06:49 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at September 06, 2013 06:50 PM (PNi9V)
http://www.hushmail.com/
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 06:51 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 06:52 PM (8lmkt)
You know, I almost typed "And do not draw with a loaded weapon" but I thought somebody would thank Dr. Obvious. Yes. Unload your gun before you go in, put in an empty-chamber indicator or a zip-tie through the action, and ask nicely. And, now that you're at the actual gun counter, go ahead and ask for advice. A place with a lot of retention holsters probably caters to "security professionals" who actually use them, and if you're talking to the main seller there, he'll know what the strong and weak points are from hearing the complaints of his other customers.
But still, try it on and try the action before you commit.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 06, 2013 06:52 PM (JNUY4)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 06:53 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: UWP at September 06, 2013 06:53 PM (vj51i)
Posted by: weft cut-loop, so tote not 3'5 at September 06, 2013 06:53 PM (KDq5l)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 06, 2013 06:54 PM (7zANx)
Posted by: mpfs, Quisp Cereal Finder at September 06, 2013 06:54 PM (E1Xum)
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 06:54 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: rtw at September 06, 2013 06:54 PM (6zfQZ)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 06, 2013 06:55 PM (RLdcX)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 06:55 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: Mindy at September 06, 2013 06:56 PM (b9xr2)
i know, i'm kind of a mean girl, but only to them what deserves it.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 06:57 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 06, 2013 06:57 PM (NHMrq)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at September 06, 2013 06:57 PM (QbKVX)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 06, 2013 06:57 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: eman at September 06, 2013 06:58 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 06, 2013 06:58 PM (GKYRR)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 06, 2013 10:11 PM (8JJ6O)
Mine too!
And we always get the nauseating holier than thou, "those evil white militarists should never have dropped the bomb" stories on our B-Day.
Posted by: rd at September 06, 2013 06:58 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 06:58 PM (M/TDA)
That shit pisses me off. Seems like every day there's something new to make me say, "I didn't sign up for this."
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 06:59 PM (+Wfbd)
yes, I am glad my friend called about the van in my fence. The guy who did it looked really irritated with me about calling the police. But, if I hadn't there wouldn't be a police report and that would make trying to collect money to fix the fence from his insurance via my insurance difficult.
Of course he was probably irritated at me because I was an infidel white woman in shorts who had the temerity to speak to him without a male relative present.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 06, 2013 06:59 PM (RZ8pf)
oh, lord, Jesse. my elderly former (and late) landlord was the same. i saw him one time trying to wipe my car down with a filthy rag, it was all i could do not to smite him dead right on the spot. hullo, paint job??? needless to say, it never happened again. and he never stopped loving me.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:00 PM (8lmkt)
Well look, I'm a support soldier I know what to do with a SAW, a flame thrower, and a claymore....
Oddly these things make for a shorter show.
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 07:01 PM (9jfyN)
I do too. But if he did it live on TV in front of millions, the media would still not stop slobbering all over him. He will always be the historic, first, greatest, best, etc.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 07:01 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at September 06, 2013 07:02 PM (d4o2E)
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 10:55 PM (9jfyN)
Love it too. Try "The bridge" on FX. My new favorite. Kinda weird.
Posted by: manometer at September 06, 2013 07:02 PM (vjrgd)
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 10:59 PM (+Wfbd)
The prayers don't stop until you're out of that, my friend. You are the best of the best. Stay safe, and that's an order!
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:02 PM (8lmkt)
you know who I think costs insurance companies a bundle and yet we never hear bitching about them? Extreme sports enthusiasts and the idiots who try to mimic them.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 06, 2013 07:02 PM (RZ8pf)
i know, i'm kind of a mean girl, but only to them what deserves it.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 10:57 PM (8lmkt)
When we were in Saint Petersburg a couple of years ago, we toured some of the Czar's prisons where they kept political prisoners......just sayin'.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 07:03 PM (T1005)
191 would i be alone in my fervent hope that barky mcfucktard is have a less than sparkly evening? i want him to break down and got out in a straight-jacket, raving and drooling and pissing himself.
Peaches, I feel the same way, except for two things.
1. Joe Biden
2. The last two weeks of the Nixon administration were scary. Too much weirdness and uncertainty. Barky won't go nearly as easily.
The ancient Chinese curse...
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at September 06, 2013 07:03 PM (ViAyD)
Posted by: mpfs, Quisp Cereal Finder at September 06, 2013 07:03 PM (E1Xum)
Well, our household does like Justified and watch it through the internet. What kind of show is it exactly?
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 07:03 PM (9jfyN)
And now he knows where you live.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 07:03 PM (+Wfbd)
I thought I was in a bad mood. "Things To Come" is on TCM.
"I want those planes."
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 06, 2013 07:03 PM (JNUY4)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 06, 2013 07:03 PM (GKYRR)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 06, 2013 07:05 PM (GKYRR)
Posted by: t-bird at September 06, 2013 07:05 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: mpfs, Quisp Cereal Finder at September 06, 2013 07:05 PM (E1Xum)
Speaking of infidels, is the world going to explode next week? I'm only asking because I have some really crappy stuff I need to do for work and if there is a possibility that the world will go kaboom I would like to enjoy my weekend vs. dealing with crappy work stuff.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 06, 2013 07:05 PM (RZ8pf)
I think the going black market exchange rate during WWII was two American Jeeps for one German Kubelwagon.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 07:05 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 06, 2013 07:05 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 07:06 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 07:06 PM (+Wfbd)
I'm feeling that way too. I've got 4 years left and I pray that all of us that can make it to retirement without getting caught in the drawdown.
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 07:06 PM (9jfyN)
I just put a light coat of synthetic grease on the key itself, put the greased key in the lock, and work the lock action a couple of times. It's never failed to get old locks back in reliable service for a few more months.
Note that you'll want to have a paper towel handy to remove the film of grease and lock grit from the key as it's pulled out. It'll need to be wiped off for the first few days.
I do recall one car, an old German panzerwagen, where someone had sheared off the heads of the bolts that had to be removed to get into the steering column to change out the lock cylinder.
They eventually just took it to an auto security shop. The alarm guys wired up an ignition/starter bypass and hid it under the dash edge, then drilled out the steering lock to let the wheel turn. Car did fine in that shape for another hundred thousand miles. Never got stolen.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 06, 2013 07:06 PM (gqT4g)
Anyone listen to Rush's theory about free breakfast and lunch at school? Pretty fucking depressing, and spot on, and goes to the reason it doesn't sit well, regardless of "the children".
Posted by: Kalneva at September 06, 2013 10:46 PM (XyrkB)
They were sending the kids home with backpacks of food this Summer.
This was the People's Republic of Minneapolis.
Posted by: rd at September 06, 2013 07:07 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: eman at September 06, 2013 07:08 PM (AO9UG)
Two detectives work together to take down a serial killer operating on both sides of the Texas-Chihuahua border. Lots of twists. Diane Kruger is hawt.
Posted by: manometer at September 06, 2013 07:08 PM (vjrgd)
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 07:08 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: The Truffle Shuffle at September 06, 2013 07:08 PM (2x1J+)
I love The Walking Dead!!
Breaking Bad is one of those shows that when I watch it I thought "Hey, I should watch this" but never did. I've now seen all of the 1st season, some of the 2nd, none of the 3rd or 4th, all of the 5th and now the current one. I'm going to have to rent or buy it now. Great show.
Posted by: puddleglum, the Dissenter! at September 06, 2013 07:08 PM (8SsiG)
As long as you don't work at an Embassy or maybe a military base, you should be OK on Wednesday.
Although the guy in the van does know where you live now.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 07:09 PM (+Wfbd)
Hi, Mrs. Sven!!!! So nice to see you again and you are looking tres fab tonight! {{{{{}}}}}
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:10 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 07:10 PM (9MLX+)
ah yes, I remember her from Troy. She is pretty good lookin! We may check it out. I'm a die hard Sherlock Holmes fan so I've been watching Elementary again since it came out on DVD.
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 07:11 PM (9jfyN)
okay, that I will try, and yeah the paper towel thingy, sure. can I use WD?
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:11 PM (8lmkt)
224 Would love to have been a fly on the wall when Putin gave El Presidente a couple of minutes of his time before the G20 ended.
"You said you could be more flexible after the election. Ok, bend over."
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at September 06, 2013 07:12 PM (ViAyD)
Posted by: manometer at September 06, 2013 07:13 PM (vjrgd)
Posted by: AltonJackson & The Middle Class feat. Working Families with an El Camino up on blocks at September 06, 2013 07:13 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 11:06 PM (9jfyN)
I did not know you are active-duty military, MS. You will be in my prayers from this night on. And thank you for your service, particularly in these times of a mental fuckin' lunatic shitbird as the CiC. He's not my president, just glad he's not my CiC. xoxo
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:14 PM (8lmkt)
Thanks! We just finished our move (again) and I go back to work next week. Had to learn to drive a bus so I can cart around my future "kids" so I'll be pretty busy working long hours. Sven can hold down the house!
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 07:14 PM (9jfyN)
well thanks a lot for that cheery thought Bomber.
But, seriously, what else was I supposed to do? I shouldn't have to pay for wrecking the fence, since I didn't do it. Oh, and the police officer who came out asked me for my driver's license. I just looked at him like he was crazy. I mean WTF, I wasn't DRIVING my house into the guy's van.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 06, 2013 07:14 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: NASA
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Wait.., is this a beard for a Iran strike?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:14 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 07:14 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 06, 2013 07:15 PM (RZ8pf)
That's what we usually do when we start watching a new show anyway. I appreciate it!
244 Peaches,
Yes Ma'am I am and thank you, I really appreciate it.
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 07:16 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 06, 2013 07:16 PM (DpI6K)
The tone is completely different than the original ones of course. It depends on your expectations.
Me, I would rather that they did more lore and less action sequences, but as a stand-alone thing, eh? I've seen worse.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 06, 2013 10:20 PM (KDq5l)
idea is another with the girl, one more with Bruce and then the Necrinomicon drawing them to the same universe for a final flick
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 07:17 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 06, 2013 07:17 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 07:17 PM (vJdyz)
I do not doubt for a moment that everyone's advice is sound..., but worst case, you end up with a spare key.
BTW, why the hell don't you have a spare key. (ducks)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:18 PM (aDwsi)
It's not so much they believe it as they want the kids to believe it.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 07:19 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: pac10077 (Mrs. Sven) at September 06, 2013 07:20 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: DAve at September 06, 2013 07:20 PM (OksBo)
Speaking of infidels, is the world going to explode next week? I'm only asking because I have some really crappy stuff I need to do for work and if there is a possibility that the world will go kaboom I would like to enjoy my weekend vs. dealing with crappy work stuff.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 06, 2013 11:05 PM (RZ8pf)
The world may or may not explode next week. If it does, there will be immediate cancellation of any pleasant aspects to work, including prompt and accurate payment. Unpleasant crappy stuff, by contrast, will continue.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 07:20 PM (T1005)
What a freaking mess that was. The piping from the intercooler to the manifold is about the diameter of a soda can and it was squeezed down to pinky diameter with carbon crud.
I can actually hear the turbocharger whine now and it accelerates like it did when new...it was kinda anemic and wheezy previously.
$90/hr at a repair shop = $540 and down a car for a couple of days. I did the whole deal for about $20 in fresh gaskets and a few cans of squirty/dissolvey goop.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 07:21 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 11:18 PM (aDwsi)
I did not realize, until today, that it was in the wallet that was in the purse, that got stolen almost 2 years ago. how do you like them apples?
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:21 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 07:21 PM (EPcGF)
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 07:21 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: mpfs, Quisp Cereal Finder at September 06, 2013 07:21 PM (E1Xum)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 06, 2013 07:21 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: DAve at September 06, 2013 07:23 PM (OksBo)
Posted by: puddleglum at September 06, 2013 07:23 PM (8SsiG)
All this affected cynicism must be a product of the time of banninations we're in.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 06, 2013 07:23 PM (JNUY4)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 07:24 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 06, 2013 07:24 PM (DpI6K)
Yep. I was disappointed he didn't die like Glen Campbell did.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 07:24 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 11:21 PM (EPcGF)
no thanks to you, Joffen. however, glad you finally made parole . . .
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:25 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: logprof at September 06, 2013 07:25 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: zeera at September 06, 2013 07:25 PM (awL0T)
Posted by: puddleglum at September 06, 2013 11:23 PM (8SsiG)
you mean like Genghis Khan and The Three Musketeers? I love the man but not all 150+ movies he was in were all awesome
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 07:26 PM (vJdyz)
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Yeah..., but you have to put up with lamo Glen Campbell
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:26 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:27 PM (aDwsi)
NASA channel if you have it...Channel 346 on DirecTv
Posted by: Country Singer at September 06, 2013 07:27 PM (LGM9b)
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 06, 2013 11:25 PM (1MCcX)
http://tinyurl.com/mw6ssco
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 07:27 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 06, 2013 07:27 PM (bieop)
middle school. My son is in middle school. And middle school kids like weird things.
Gah, my son is in middle school now. It is terrifying. T.e.r.r.i.f.y.i.n.g.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 06, 2013 07:28 PM (RZ8pf)
The girl in the remake was better. Glen Campbell was better than Matt Damon.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 07:28 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: puddleglum at September 06, 2013 07:28 PM (8SsiG)
Posted by: DC in Towson at September 06, 2013 07:28 PM (ZFinx)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 07:28 PM (EPcGF)
Posted by: puddleglum at September 06, 2013 07:29 PM (8SsiG)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 11:21 PM (EPcGF)
Hey, Joffen -- good to see you drop in! How's it hangin'?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 07:29 PM (T1005)
Posted by: logprof at September 06, 2013 07:29 PM (bufJH)
School lunch programs are really just the perfect program for Dem rent seeking constituencies: Govt jobs program for unskilled union workers; corporate welfare for agro-biz; and do-gooder public health program for the chilluns all wrapped up into one ...
The destruction of our republic, one Lunch Lady at a time ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 07:29 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 06, 2013 07:30 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 11:28 PM (EPcGF)
ah, shit, we gotta call you Chelsea now?
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:30 PM (8lmkt)
NASA channel if you have it...Channel 346 on DirecTv
Posted by: Country Singer at September 06, 2013 11:27 PM (LGM9b)
You have to get HD to receive that channel. They used to have a "normal" channel on DirecTV.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 06, 2013 07:30 PM (74gkr)
I liked the article about raising kids like it was the '80s from Ace's thread below; I've often thought about doing that should I ever have children. The '80s were a fun time for kids, imo. I think it could last longer than two weeks, tho. Tasha Tudor raised her children in the '30s/'40s without electricity or water... on purpose! I've always admired that.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 06, 2013 07:31 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: lindafell at September 06, 2013 07:31 PM (PGO8C)
Yea, it was 6 solid hours of steady plugging away. On the transverse 4-banger TDI, all the EGR hardware is tucked behind the intake manifold next to the firewall near the center for maximum inacessability...and there's an EGR cooler unit that gets cloggy too and has water hose plumbing you gotta diddle with.
Some people are disabling the EGR system to eliminate that carbon buildup crap, but some generations of ECM apparently throw error codes when you do that. Its only a as-needed 80k-100k miles deal though, so its not something you'd endure frequently.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 07:32 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 07:32 PM (EPcGF)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 06, 2013 07:32 PM (j/FJV)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 06, 2013 07:32 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Jennifer, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 07:33 PM (EPcGF)
The girl in the remake was better. Glen Campbell was better than Matt Damon.
Posted by: Bomber
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So we're down to John Wayne vs. Jeff Bridges?
I can't call it. Wayne was Wayne. Bridges did a great job
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:33 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 06, 2013 07:33 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 06, 2013 07:33 PM (4wLfM)
ok so need a good IWB holster for a 1911/ .45ACP pistol any suggestions?
Posted by: duke at September 06, 2013 09:59 PM (rr0cL)
I have a Galco Stow n Go that I like if I have to take the gun off for any reason (like going into a restaurant that serves alcohol, at least until the first of October). Otherwise I have a Fugly from Dragon Leather Works. Also have never heard anything bad about the Crossbreed Super-Tuck.
Oh, and Evening roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 07:33 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 06, 2013 11:32 PM (1MCcX)
don't we all
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 07:33 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 07:34 PM (EPcGF)
Jeeps most definitely DO NOT suck. We had a Willys MB built in 1944 that was still going when I graduated from high school. Dad and one of my uncles bought 6 surplus for $50 per, and kept one.
It had the fording kit, plus winch, and would go any old where, the drawback was it would high center sometimes if you didn't watch. It was still going when I left for the Army.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 06, 2013 07:34 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 07:34 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 06, 2013 07:36 PM (j/FJV)
Plan 9 From Outer Space
We used to make jokes at IBM about "Plan 9" whenever someone proposed some completely stupid shit.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 07:36 PM (9MLX+)
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Agreed. Well, there was the problem of polio and the cold war...., but otherwise, it was the best time to be a kid.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:36 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: AltonJackson has been asleep for over seventeen minutes at September 06, 2013 07:36 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Corona at September 06, 2013 07:36 PM (fh2Y7)
So we're down to John Wayne vs. Jeff Bridges?
I can't call it. Wayne was Wayne. Bridges did a great job
The girl in the remake was very good. Yes, Bridges did a great job. I still prefered Wayne.
Posted by: puddleglum at September 06, 2013 07:37 PM (8SsiG)
How've you guys been? What'd I miss?
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 11:34 PM (EPcGF)
Nothing......and everything. The Horde abides..... Whassup in your life?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 07:37 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 06, 2013 07:37 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 06, 2013 11:32 PM (1MCcX)
them, too?
Posted by: Chicago at September 06, 2013 07:38 PM (8lmkt)
When we were in Saint Petersburg a couple of years ago, we toured some of the Czar's prisons where they kept political prisoners......just sayin'.....
Posted by: cthulhu
Obama has Valerie measuring for drapes and Cass taking notes
Posted by: Jean at September 06, 2013 07:38 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 06, 2013 07:38 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars[/i][/b][/s] at September 06, 2013 07:38 PM (CYKf3)
Yep. I admit to being doubly biased about LeBouef. Always hated Matt Damon, and Glen Campbell is a distant cousin. Never met him, but we are related.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 07:38 PM (+Wfbd)
I don't see how you can ban people from running for office - there is no way that can survive a court test, or we are truly doomed. I mean, how could it possibly be enforced? Truth serum interrogations?
So it took me about a day to get suspended from twitter - I guess they don't really want you to "join the conversation" after all ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 07:39 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 06, 2013 07:39 PM (amk95)
THANK YOU!!! I got locksmiths. I hate car dealerships. I will do as you suggest. Very much appreciate you taking the time to share that.
Posted by: Chicago at September 06, 2013 07:39 PM (8lmkt)
(O)(O)
How do you screw up tumblers? That's pretty old tech. Make'em out of plastic or cardboard?
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 07:40 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: rtw at September 06, 2013 07:40 PM (6zfQZ)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 07:40 PM (EPcGF)
Thanks CDR M.
Posted by: JNL at September 06, 2013 07:41 PM (3WGRF)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 07:41 PM (M/TDA)
It's not going well.
Other than that, things are great!
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 11:40 PM (EPcGF)
Damn, Joffen. Sorry to hear that. We miss you, though, and it's very good to see you here tonight. Where in Canuckistan?
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:42 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 07:42 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: Purp
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Have them made by Chrysler
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:42 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: AltonJackson has been asleep for over seventeen minutes at September 06, 2013 07:44 PM (JMmQ9)
I'm not so sure. Cast your eye over the field of current candidates, and ask who could play the part that Eastwood did. You need someone who projects all sorts of things with few or no words. I can't think of anyone, can you? I did rule out Matt Damon right away.
Posted by: Splunge at September 06, 2013 07:44 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 07:44 PM (EPcGF)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 06, 2013 07:44 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 11:37 PM (T1005)
I moved to Canada.
It's not going well.
Other than that, things are great!
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 11:40 PM (EPcGF)
If you're avoiding the draft, your time machine needs recalibration.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 07:45 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 11:42 PM (aDwsi)
Friend of mine had a 73 Charger, one night the key would not go in the lock at all. The little spring-loaded door that covers the lock when the key isn't in froze shut. I was able to break it loose with a screwdriver for her. Did I mention it was 3AM and we were just getting off work? Murphy's Law, at the worst possible time.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 07:45 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at September 06, 2013 07:45 PM (CgVEi)
Cast your eye over the field of current candidates, and ask who could play the part that Eastwood did.
Or the part that Lee Van Cleef did for that matter.
Posted by: puddleglum at September 06, 2013 07:47 PM (8SsiG)
Yeah, that'd be the hard part. Good movies, they just seemed more dated than most of what gets remade these days.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 07:47 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: duke at September 06, 2013 09:59 PM (rr0cL)"
This.
http://www.alessigunholsters.com/hideout-1/
It is a little spendy but you won't regret it. The only problem with it is that it is so comfortable that you can forget you are wearing it and sit down on a wooden bench in a restaurant booth with a loud clunk. I can draw from it sitting or standing or even wearing a seat belt in a car.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 06, 2013 07:47 PM (31Nrp)
What a freaking mess that was. The piping from the intercooler to the manifold is about the diameter of a soda can and it was squeezed down to pinky diameter with carbon crud.
I can actually hear the turbocharger whine now and it accelerates like it did when new...it was kinda anemic and wheezy previously.
$90/hr at a repair shop = $540 and down a car for a couple of days. I did the whole deal for about $20 in fresh gaskets and a few cans of squirty/dissolvey goop.
Posted by: Purp
I installed an aftermarket blower on my Dad's VW Dasher Diesel, when I was in high school. It wasn't too hard - wiring it up to a blank switch on the dash took the longest. Does all that EGR crap interfere with your ability to lay a cloud of greasy black smoke on someone behind you?
Posted by: Jean at September 06, 2013 07:47 PM (CMlD4)
yeah, well, we need to gird our loins for Preznit Cankles, cause the GOP couldn't find their ass with both hands and a 3-way mirror. it really boggles the mind.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:47 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 07:47 PM (EPcGF)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 11:44 PM (EPcGF)
Well, at least now we know not to lament McCain losing in '08; a President McCain would be trying to "punish" Assad with no proof, too. Sigh.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 06, 2013 07:48 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:48 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Splunge at September 06, 2013 11:44 PM (bKA83)
off the top of my head
Joesph Gordon-Levitt, Tom Hardy and Ryan Gosling
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 07:48 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 07:49 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 07:49 PM (EPcGF)
Posted by: Mindy at September 06, 2013 07:49 PM (b9xr2)
Rebuilt the carb, fixed the torched wires, called the old guy who still had the keys who was glad someone was gonna save it.
Changed *7* of the spark plugs. The 8th you'd have to unbolt an engine mount and jack the fucking engine to get to. Yea right. Go with that.
It lasted two years, then reverse shit the bed on the trans. I drove it to a scrap yard and vowed to never buy another Chrysler...even if was only $50.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 07:49 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 07:50 PM (EPcGF)
makes me feel a little less superior about vacuuming in the oppressive heat . . . still, one must have heroes and you are now one of mine.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:51 PM (8lmkt)
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Or Festus. Basically, anyone with common sense, a rudiment of experience in life, and a little spine.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:51 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 06, 2013 07:51 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Newt Gingrich at September 06, 2013 07:52 PM (Vk2pI)
Tuna, then why did the boomers turn out to be such a bitter cadre that are still angry with their parents (and all other authority) to this day? Growing up in the 70's and 80's was fun because the rules were pretty much do whatever you want, racial tensions and violence had ebbed, things were peaceful, and we went from malaise to prosperity, mainly through cool new tech ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 07:52 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: Mindy at September 06, 2013 11:49 PM (b9xr2)
I still like that guy! In '16, the GOP has no veterans on their bench, except Perry. Would be nice to have military experience in the Oval Office again (excluding McCain, of course).
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 06, 2013 07:52 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 06, 2013 07:52 PM (bieop)
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 07:53 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Newt Gingrich at September 06, 2013 11:52 PM (Vk2pI)
yeah, maybe you pay for the jewelry, big man?
Posted by: Tiffany's at September 06, 2013 07:54 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 06, 2013 07:54 PM (DFqz1)
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 07:54 PM (XyrkB)
Hard to replace Eli Wallach too
Big-time. He's one of those underrated guys; in that movie I saw him as a sort of character-actor/sidekick part, which doesn't sound like much, but he really projected a combination of comedy, menace, and unpredictability that would be really hard to not screw up if you were redoing it.
Posted by: Splunge at September 06, 2013 07:54 PM (bKA83)
Something thicker, if you have or can find it.
Grease instead of a liquid. WD is thin, runny stuff.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 06, 2013 07:54 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Jean at September 06, 2013 07:55 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Purp
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We may have had this discussion before. A friend had a ratted-out, rusty, smoking, K-car. I rode with him to lunch one day. He commented, "You know what amazes me? This is the car that saved Chrysler."
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:55 PM (aDwsi)
Grease instead of a liquid. WD is thin, runny stuff.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 06, 2013 11:54 PM (gqT4g)
ah, shit, I'll just take it over to the dealer. will bring along the WD for when they bend me over . . . should work just fine.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 07:56 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 07:56 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 11:39 PM (WjS9o)
They want you to "agree with the conversation".
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 06, 2013 07:56 PM (74gkr)
Posted by: Gale Banks at September 06, 2013 07:57 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: DAve at September 06, 2013 07:57 PM (OksBo)
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 06, 2013 07:57 PM (DFqz1)
Posted by: Mindy at September 06, 2013 07:57 PM (b9xr2)
It saved them only because that was the right moment for putting over a big con: massively cutting your costs by going to a common set of components, and selling to a large group of buyers who had, against all odds, not yet given up on you. It worked -- once.
Posted by: Splunge at September 06, 2013 07:57 PM (bKA83)
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Crap. So it wasn't a thinly disguised launch on Iran.
Rats.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 07:57 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 06, 2013 11:54 PM (DFqz1)
dunno why, all three Mad Max films would be considered PG-13 these days (Thunderdome has a PG-13 rating)
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 07:58 PM (vJdyz)
All the VW diesels from the early TDI (Z1/AHU/ALH engines) onward are pretty clean and don't make hardly any black smoke.
The newer Pump Duze and Common Rail TDI's are real good. The most recent Common Rail TDI even meets CA's most stringent emissions requirements for CO, NOx, and particulates...
...cleaner than most gas engines actually. They got a particulate trap system now that traps the particulates and goes through an automatic "regen" cycle every so often and heats the particulate crud up to the point where it combusts and cleans the trap out.
The larger VW's implement the AddBlue system too to cut NOx further.
These ain't your old school diesels. This shit be high tech
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 07:58 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 06, 2013 07:59 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Mindy at September 06, 2013 11:57 PM (b9xr2)
I like him, too. A *lot*.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 06, 2013 07:59 PM (KL49F)
387 Anybody who attempts to remake The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly should be hung from the nearest tree.
And Blondie won't be there to "save" him.
Posted by: puddleglum at September 06, 2013 07:59 PM (8SsiG)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 08:00 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: DAve at September 06, 2013 08:00 PM (OksBo)
WD is not a lubricant- no, for your serious auto repair ass-reamings. you wanna go with white lithium grease or maybe a heavy duty ball-bearing grease
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 06, 2013 08:00 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 08:01 PM (vJdyz)
We fucked our kids up, but good, giving them everything. We were spoiled, but not nearly as spoiled as our kids are. I'm speaking as the last of the baby-boomers, born in 1964, and with my kids being on the cusp, where they are still somewhat reasonable, but way spoiled. I can blame my ex-husband, who still showers them with lavish vacations, etc., but I am just as bad. My "kids" have good manners, however, and know how to behave in society and at a job interview. That's something, but like I said, they're on the cusp. Lawn. You know what to do.
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 08:01 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:02 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mindy at September 06, 2013 08:03 PM (b9xr2)
Thx for reply Tuna - it's not all good - my generation at midlife is certainly struggling. I think the chix have it the hardest - one foot in the norms of their pre-feminist mothers, the other in our post-feminist reality. I think they end up feeling like they have to have it all or be unfulfilled, and that is just not possible ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 08:03 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 07, 2013 12:00 AM (8sCoq)
um, I wasn't talkin' about the car there, Jones . . . and, dammit, I used to have a tube of lithium grease, but I shitcanned that car and gave it to my mechanic friend. d'oh!
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 08:03 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 07, 2013 12:02 AM (aDwsi)
that's what I want, 29 Model A Pickup
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 08:03 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 08:04 PM (EPcGF)
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 12:00 AM (+Wfbd)
I wish bacons for you, Bomber. Lots and lots of bacons.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 08:04 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Derp at September 06, 2013 08:05 PM (Vk2pI)
Klaus Kinski was the only recognizable (in America anyway) European actor in any of those movies.
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 06, 2013 08:05 PM (DFqz1)
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 11:49 PM (XyrkB)
I already associate food with government -- http://tinyurl.com/kynpfv5
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 08:06 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Jones in CO
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Rear end lube will vary. but 80-90 weight is ball park.
Did I just say ball park?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:06 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: UWP at September 06, 2013 08:06 PM (vj51i)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 07, 2013 12:05 AM (8sCoq)
High Plains Drifter, no question.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 08:07 PM (8lmkt)
My future wife doesn't think I'm nuts to point out how the whole upcoming animated Turkey Movie is little more than an anti-meat eating propaganda meant to brainwash very young kids.
If we ever have another civil war the media should be one of the first targets.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 08:08 PM (zxqWd)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 06, 2013 08:08 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: blaster at September 06, 2013 08:08 PM (5Xlg3)
but I like the end shootout in Pale Rider- when the leader of the railroad posse gets a look at Eastwood's face and says "YOU!"- and I was like whoa, there's a whole nother movie in there somewhere
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 06, 2013 08:09 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 08:09 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 07, 2013 12:04 AM (EPcGF)
Oh, so it was written before Bush got elected and he went batshit, was it?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 08:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 06, 2013 08:11 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 06, 2013 08:11 PM (DFqz1)
Posted by: Keyser Soze at September 06, 2013 08:11 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 06, 2013 08:12 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 08:12 PM (EPcGF)
Good luck banning a ubiquitous fucking product of nature, you dipshits.
Posted by: lauraw at September 06, 2013 08:12 PM (yGblt)
Posted by: Joe at September 07, 2013 12:03 AM (WjS9o)
Luckily, though my mom streams invectives, about the evil white patriarchy, when she's drinking, she's the total antithesis of feminism in real life. So I came into adulthood, and wife-hood, with some man-pleasing skills. Why did they have to make men the enemy? And she alternates between admiring my marriage, and castigating me for being so subjugated. Like getting hubby a plate is somehow minimizing me. How 'bout he works his ass off? So I can live nicely. That doesn't count, somehow. This is the feminazi legacy.
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 08:12 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 06, 2013 08:12 PM (DFqz1)
Posted by: irongrampa at September 06, 2013 11:48 PM (SAMxH)
Not until you defined it. That's high-larious. About right, though.
Purp, I had a Dodge Rampage that I bought for $50 and drove for 10 years and almost 200K miles. Great little trucklet, by the time I scrapped it I only had a little under 500 in it (had to swap the motor once and the trans 3x, but the trans was because I was dead-set on having a 5 spd and it took me that long to find a good one). I should have kept it and made a Lemons car out of it.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:12 PM (yh0zB)
402 True dat Kalneva. This is what is odd - I don't consider myself a boomer because I was born in 65, first year of declining birthrates (many half empty schools), and my cultural context was much more "punk" then "hippie" - but I have an older brother and sister (60, 63) which would both technically be boomers, so how can one family break into two generations?
FWIW, my brother's cultural context would be Lynyrd Skynyrd, and my sister's, Foreigner ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 08:13 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 06, 2013 08:13 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 06, 2013 08:13 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:13 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 08:15 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: Jean at September 06, 2013 08:15 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Gingy at September 06, 2013 08:15 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2013 12:11 AM (T1005)
There was a time when he wasn't insane?
(it's copyright 2005, so no)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 07, 2013 12:12 AM (EPcGF)
He earned a real Nobel (not the f'ing Peace Price) in 2008 for his work some years prior, so -- yeah, at one point he actually was not a worthless batshit douchenozzle. Clearly, those times have passed.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 08:16 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Jean at September 07, 2013 12:15 AM (CMlD4)
clearly you don't embarrass easily . . . if it came down to driving a minivan or taking the bus, I'd really have to think about it. long and hard. bless your heart, Jean, you're a way better person than I am.
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 08:18 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 06, 2013 08:18 PM (BXLPR)
engine from his freshly acquired Model A pick-up. Been in a barn for 50
years.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 07, 2013 12:02 AM (aDwsi)
that's what I want, 29 Model A Pickup
Posted by: The Dude
I'm pining for an 81 Rabbit Diesel pickup - with one of those old school engines that can run away and just keep going after you refill it with oil.
Posted by: Jean at September 06, 2013 08:18 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:18 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2013 08:18 PM (M/TDA)
What? Posted by: Gingy
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Uhhhh, oh. Weird dreams if I stay here any longer.
Hi Gingy.
Nite all.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:19 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 08:19 PM (zxqWd)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 07, 2013 12:12 AM (EPcGF)
Is it like "3rd edition"? -- 'cause the first edition might be a little long in the tooth.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 08:19 PM (T1005)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 08:20 PM (J8Q1Z)
Posted by: Mindy at September 06, 2013 08:21 PM (b9xr2)
Charles Bronson, Claudia Cardinale, Jason Robards and Henry Fonda, playing against type, as a stone cold killer.
Posted by: Tuna
Henry Fonda was brilliant in that movie!! One of the scariest baddies ever!
Posted by: puddleglum at September 06, 2013 08:22 PM (8SsiG)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 06, 2013 08:22 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Jean at September 07, 2013 12:18 AM (CMlD4)
Trivia note here, there have been 3 front-wheel drive pickups sold in the US, two of them (the Rabbit and the Rampage) have already been mentioned. Anyone know what the third was? Hint, it was also offered in AWD.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:22 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 08:22 PM (zxqWd)
My Jetta still has the 1998 vintage factory charge in it...and it works. Chrysler should just buy VW's system...
...wait, they actually did ship a bunch of Omni's years ago with stock VW Rabbit engines in them when they couldn't make a 4 banger that was worth a shit.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 08:22 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: The Dude
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That's it. A ragtop. Parked in his driveway, it looks like the Clampetts just moved in
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:23 PM (aDwsi)
God love ya, horde, I know I do.
xoxo
Posted by: Peaches at September 06, 2013 08:23 PM (8lmkt)
Kalneva that's what I'm talking about. I think you'd lean X'er, regardless of year, IMHO ... my folks were (are) depression babies.
Gingy - Whut??? I think there is an easy peasy test for that - a digital one ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 08:23 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 08:23 PM (zxqWd)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:23 PM (yh0zB)
(10 internets to anyone who knows the source of that)
Original Naked Gun series. Funny stuff. And, bonus, no O.J.
Posted by: Splunge at September 06, 2013 08:24 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 07, 2013 12:22 AM (zxqWd)
If you think about it, the whole immigration fiasco is boomers in the government trying to find another boom (of immigrants) so they won't have been the idiots that totally screwed the pooch. Gen Xers didn't come through in sufficient numbers or sufficient LIV.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 08:25 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:25 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Purp at September 07, 2013 12:22 AM (9MLX+)
It was an economy thing. The 1.7 VW engine was more economical than the 2.2/2.5 Chrysler, which by the way was eventually featured in every Chrysler model through the 80's. Fine motor, that. FWIW, Chrysler used more Mitsubishi motors than they did VW motors.
And the answer is...Subaru Brat.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:26 PM (yh0zB)
AJPS, TKAW - like a horde of locusts they descended upon the land, consuming all that they found and leaving nothing in their wake ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 08:27 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:27 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 06, 2013 08:27 PM (8sCoq)
All it takes is badly leaking turbo bearings, or completely whupped valve stem seals. If the critter got something burny to burn, its gonna keep burning it.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 08:28 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:28 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Jean at September 06, 2013 08:28 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 07, 2013 12:27 AM (8sCoq)
That would be the Brat...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:29 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 07, 2013 12:18 AM (BXLPR)
I know. What I don't know is why your generation keeps voting for the democrats who keep screwing them.
Hannity, tonight, had a bunch of college students smugly, oh so smugly, availing Sean of their "knowledge". I know you're not in the millenial group, but they were so sure of the "right" to have government protections, and would "gladly" give more than 50% of their incomes for it. (They were all in Ivy-League at someone else's expense.) It really was gag-worthy. Hubby retreated to the living room.
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 08:29 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 08:29 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 06, 2013 08:30 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 07, 2013 12:11 AM
That's a tough one. I want to like Josey Wales more, but, Unforgiven is such a well made film for a number of reasons. Tie. Josey Wales for sentimental reasons and Unforgiven for filmaking points.
Posted by: otho at September 06, 2013 08:30 PM (9gNQd)
Pontiac Aztec. People actually bought those new.
(O)(O)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 08:31 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:31 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 08:31 PM (J8Q1Z)
Only full-sized, eh? Do you have something against lesbians?
It occurs to me that this may be a regional joke only, but here in NoCal, it appears that the day after you come out as a lesbian, you are required to buy a mini-pickup.
Posted by: Splunge at September 06, 2013 08:31 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Alana at September 06, 2013 08:31 PM (Tzaq2)
(O)(O)
Posted by: Purp
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Well, yeah, but at least they had a cast iron engine, as opposed to the Vega.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:32 PM (aDwsi)
(O)(O)
Posted by: Purp
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Well, yeah, but at least they had a cast iron engine, as opposed to the Vega.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Oops. Cancel that..., I was thinking Astra.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:32 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: t-bird at September 06, 2013 08:33 PM (FcR7P)
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RWD
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:34 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Jean at September 07, 2013 12:28 AM (CMlD4)
Yep, because passenger cars only paid a 2.5 percent tariff but light trucks paid a 25 percent tariff. Same reason you can't get a Japanese motorcycle over 700 CC's from 83-87.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:34 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 08:34 PM (J8Q1Z)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 08:34 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: fluffy at September 06, 2013 08:34 PM (z9HTb)
That's why VW always called the Bus/Vanagon a "station wagon" or "suburban". To avoid that truck import tariff shit.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 08:36 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 07, 2013 12:30 AM (8sCoq)
Yep, and it claimed a few lives. There are no current Subaru "trucks", the last one was the Baja produced from 2003-2006. I have a 2003.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:36 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde
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Not true. I owned a 1985 Suzuki GS750es, a fine bike it was too. Also VF 750 Hondas.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 08:37 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 08:37 PM (EPcGF)
Two generations of socialist public school indoctrination have created a consensus that thinks it's preferable. The long march through the institutions was effective, and I have no clue how we can reverse it now. I'm all for fighting the culture war, but we already lost it many years ago. America is over, at least on this rock - maybe sometime it will rise again, but probably not on this rock ...
I'd say get off my lawn, but I stopped caring and it looks like crap - I wonder where I can get me some off color clown cereal ..
Cthulu I saw another post today that said the Nobel prize for Econ isn't really a Nobel prize, but associated somehow (some bank). If y'all haven't looked at their front page, www.nobel.org, you need too - tipped in an earlier thread.
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 08:38 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: t-bird at September 06, 2013 08:38 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 08:38 PM (6TV0b)
Joe, I know what you mean by I'd lean GenX. I really am on the cusp, though. I like Led Zeppelin, and Alice in Chains, and Linkin Park. But nothing after that. I am not in a well-defined place. I like to smoke pot, recreationally, once a year. I am just enough of a prude. Plus don't use bad grammar! And hold the fucking door for me, you stupid shit!
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 08:39 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: fluffy at September 07, 2013 12:34 AM (z9HTb)
guilty secret...I want one of those. A 77 Mach 1 or King Cobra, as long as it has T tops. There was one at the last cars n' coffee that had a 351 in it, but no T tops. Probably a good thing cause it was for sale.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:39 PM (yh0zB)
FTR, I drive a 25 year old SUV. It fulfills all my needs and has the requisite bells and whistles--all of which work as intended. I looked at everything out there and was not impressed with any of it.
So my nice, easy to work on, uncomplicated Dodge Ramcharger will suffice.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 06, 2013 08:40 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: eugene levy at September 06, 2013 08:40 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Eastwood Fan at September 06, 2013 08:41 PM (CWtG7)
At least we are doing something with our ICBM's, I suppose.
Posted by: Senile Old Lurker at September 06, 2013 08:41 PM (PaNTI)
Some skell criminal cousin of mine was keen for it, and I just gave it to him to make it go away. In good conscience I couldn't actually try to sell it to anyone.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 08:42 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 06, 2013 08:42 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 08:43 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 06, 2013 08:45 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 08:45 PM (zxqWd)
Posted by: eugene levy at September 07, 2013 12:40 AM (9gNQd)
OMG, that made beer snort! Love the original Vacation. So many quotes. Our family has all in our lexicon. Thanks!
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 08:45 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 08:47 PM (J8Q1Z)
Posted by: john diehl at September 06, 2013 08:47 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 08:48 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 07, 2013 12:37 AM (aDwsi)
VF-750 was made up until 84 when the tariff kicked in and then not again until 87 when it expired. Pretty sure the same holds true for Suzuki unless they paid extra to import them, most of them went to 700's. The Gold Wing is made here so didn't pay a tariff.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:48 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 06, 2013 08:50 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: f2000 at September 06, 2013 08:50 PM (FcMtg)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 07, 2013 12:42 AM (U82Km)
lol, no, because of tariffs. *gives Tilikum a cookie*
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:50 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: South African Screaming Vagina at September 06, 2013 08:51 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 08:52 PM (J8Q1Z)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:52 PM (yh0zB)
I remember a college class I had with some little fucktard. He said that dmocracy takes forever to get things done while non-democracies don't, but everyone gets pissed. He said this with sneering arrogance.
I almost jumped up and beat his ass in the classroom. I did say loudly that that if he wants to live under tyranny that he's in the wrong country....not that he heard.
FYI, this prick drove a raised full sized pickup with a handgrenade sticker on the back window, yet he would almost come to a stop to go over the the almost non-existent speed bumps we had on campus.
I found that telling... and it made me hate him even more.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 08:53 PM (zxqWd)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 07, 2013 12:52 AM (J8Q1Z)
The Ranger and the S-10 were both fine little trucks, but avoid the 4WD's because they cost more to maintain.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 08:54 PM (yh0zB)
533 BC, we would never, ever include you with the un-worthies.
Posted by: kalneva at September 07, 2013 12:48 AM (XyrkB)
Uh oh, what did I miss that this explanation was needed.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 07, 2013 12:22 AM (GEICT)
You were being all...
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 08:55 PM (XyrkB)
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 06, 2013 08:57 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: chevy chase at September 06, 2013 08:57 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: f2000 at September 06, 2013 08:57 PM (FcMtg)
Lotta businesses around here, like auto parts stores and pizza delivery, still using them.
If maintained, they apparently hold up OK
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 08:58 PM (9MLX+)
I don't think 4 banger pickups are sold anymore. Old Toyotas have legendary reliability and Nissans were good too. I love my old (body on frame) Ranger, but it might be time to scrap it as the electrical meltdown broke a lot of stuff.
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 08:58 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: f2000 at September 06, 2013 08:59 PM (FcMtg)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:00 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: Gingy at September 06, 2013 09:00 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 09:00 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: f2000 at September 07, 2013 12:57 AM (FcMtg)
That's true, they dropped that thing from great heights, set it on fire, put it on the top of a building and blew it up, tossed it in the ocean, and they just couldn't kill it.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 09:01 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Gingy at September 07, 2013 01:00 AM (aH+zP)
you should shoot your television for watching the abomination of the US version of Top Gear
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 09:01 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:02 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 09:02 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 09:02 PM (J8Q1Z)
Afghan Army and Police drive 4-door, 4WD, Diesel Rangers. Most with big-ass front bumpers/guards that wrap back into running boards. Only thing over here I want to bring back with me.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 09:02 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 01:00 AM (+Wfbd)
Don't try to do too much now. ya gotta pace yourself...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 09:02 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Gingy at September 06, 2013 09:02 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 09:03 PM (XyrkB)
Back when it was Police Squad.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 06, 2013 09:03 PM (74gkr)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 06, 2013 09:04 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 09:04 PM (aDwsi)
That's usually a small adjustment or simple hinge pin replacement if they're worn so badly it affects the striker geometry...unless of course its been T-boned or is rusted so badly the door is kinda flapping up and down freely
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 09:06 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 07, 2013 01:04 AM (aDwsi)
Great bikes. Dad had a 77 with a Kerker header, damn that thing was loud.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 09:06 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 06, 2013 09:07 PM (BXLPR)
Plenty of colonels around here to do that for me.
I'm here to work with Afghan gov't types. I'm not allowed to go out in town that often, although that is my whole mission here. So I'm limited to email and phone, but the Afghans don't really like either.
Oh well. I have High Plains Drifter and Outlaw Josey Wales on the hard drive.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 09:07 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 09:07 PM (J8Q1Z)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 09:07 PM (0axsw)
Yay Kalneva! That's good news purp, wish we could get those new diesel Rangers here ...
Didn't Ace threaten to start a car thread at some point? That would be cool, and give us a place besides those silly and always ironic socialist jalop hipsters ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 09:08 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: f2000 at September 06, 2013 09:08 PM (FcMtg)
Seeing any rocket go up at my age satisfying. I stood in the dark just off the path. A bike came whizzing past just missing me. It was so dark I never saw it. About 100 feet away was a group of youths yelling and fighting over something. In the dark I started to get nervous.
Thank God the rocket finally appeared.
Posted by: Senile Old Lurker at September 06, 2013 09:08 PM (PaNTI)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 09:09 PM (6TV0b)
Neither were full frame so they were both crap as trucks.
Posted by: The Hickster at September 06, 2013 09:09 PM (MeB2c)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 06, 2013 09:10 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 07, 2013 01:07 AM (BXLPR)
*sigh* yep...late 40's...doesn't seem right...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 09:10 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: f2000 at September 06, 2013 09:10 PM (FcMtg)
I had a '78 Datsun pickup in college, in the mid-90s. It was a blast. Even in Florida without AC.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 09:10 PM (+Wfbd)
4.3 engine a bit of a gasoline user.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 06, 2013 09:10 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: f2000 at September 07, 2013 01:07 AM (FcMtg)
that song is almost as old as her (came out in 95 I believe)
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 09:11 PM (vJdyz)
...with a "you don't have to like it, you just have to do it" kinda theme.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 09:11 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: rickl at September 06, 2013 09:13 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 09:14 PM (zxqWd)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:15 PM (4p5/2)
I think that we, who are in our late 40's (ugh) are not the ones who are at issue. We all had jobs. And have had jobs, and didn't expect a damn thing but what we could earn. The boomer years are not quite exact, just like all the other generations sort of meld together. There's no date where it cuts off.
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 09:15 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 09:16 PM (J8Q1Z)
Posted by: The Hickster at September 07, 2013 01:09 AM (MeB2c)
???
Frame ran from the front bumper to the back and you could take the body all the way off of them. Plenty of them out there with body lift kits on them.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 09:18 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: South African Screaming Vagina at September 06, 2013 09:18 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: "Winston" at September 06, 2013 09:18 PM (CW5Z7)
Posted by: akula51 at September 07, 2013 01:15 AM (4p5/2)
I have to put rotors on the 'stang, it shudders under heavy braking.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 09:19 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 06, 2013 09:19 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: South African Screaming Vagina at September 07, 2013 01:18 AM (Vk2pI)
missed GenY by one month
Posted by: The Dude at September 06, 2013 09:20 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 09:20 PM (J8Q1Z)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 09:21 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 09:21 PM (XyrkB)
Hickster 1st gen Rangers were body on frame, even twin I beam like a miniature f-150. Massively overbuilt - could haul a full extended bed of sand while fully compressed. Couldn't do that with a Toyota. I've got one (8
, but electrical meltdown ... fixed the melted wiring but they are still very hot so there is a short I haven't found yet and when it melted down it wouldn't shut off so overheated and head gasket (at least) - steam in the exhaust.
Lotta stuff to fix on a truck worth <$1k now ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 09:21 PM (WjS9o)
They even have the nickname of "Taliban Tanks" because they're popular as mobile gun platforms for jihadist crews
Posted by: kbdabear at September 06, 2013 09:22 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 06, 2013 09:23 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Gingy at September 06, 2013 09:23 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 06, 2013 09:24 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: f2000 at September 07, 2013 12:50 AM (FcMtg)
Undo what ban policy? There is one?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 09:24 PM (T1005)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:25 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 09:25 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 09:25 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:26 PM (4p5/2)
Ace showed up late on the ONT last night. Talked breakfast cereals. Threatened to ban me. It was awesome.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 09:27 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 06, 2013 09:27 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 06, 2013 09:27 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 06, 2013 09:27 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:29 PM (4p5/2)
So, with myself and my daughter at the very edges, we're both Gen-Xers. Hmm. Well, I did give birth to her when I was young. But still weird. Although, the same goes for me and my mom, if we go the other way. I would like to commission a multi-billion $ study of this phenomenon, where you are in the same generations as both your mom and your daughter.
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 09:29 PM (XyrkB)
The slacker thing is a lie. I've never seen a launch, I would love too sometime. We build them here, but then they used to load them up on Antonovs and launch them elsewhere ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 09:29 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: f2000 at September 06, 2013 09:32 PM (FcMtg)
Posted by: Null at September 06, 2013 09:32 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 09:32 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 09:33 PM (J8Q1Z)
Posted by: kalneva at September 07, 2013 01:29 AM (XyrkB)
Do you do threesomes?
Posted by: Xer perv at September 06, 2013 09:34 PM (T1005)
18-30 year olds are TFG's greatest fans, they think government ought to pay for housing, food, healthcare, and transportation leaving their income for the fun shit
They brought the dog into the house, they can clean it up when he shits on the carpets
Posted by: kbdabear at September 06, 2013 09:34 PM (/9IC1)
"buffalo trace"
I'll keep an eye out for it. Crazy wife wants a damn boat, so any bit of money I can save is a blessing.
Posted by: f2000 at September 06, 2013 09:34 PM (FcMtg)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:35 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 06, 2013 09:36 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 09:36 PM (J8Q1Z)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 06, 2013 09:36 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 01:32 AM (+Wfbd)
Thing is, my parents were still "depression kids" even though they were born later than their cohort....because they were in rural western Colorado and West Virginia. The Great Depression had already passed in Philadelphia, Denver, Baton Rouge, and Atlanta.....but not in Delta, CO or Parkersburg, WV.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 09:38 PM (T1005)
They knew how bleak their potential employment future was, and precisely why. The repercussions of 'coming home' from school these days are so far beyond terrifying...whew.
Posted by: akula51 at September 07, 2013 01:35 AM (4p5/2)
This is what I have been pinning my hopes upon. The pendulum has to swing. Please?
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 09:38 PM (XyrkB)
I'm with you. I have no sympathy for those that elect to be in servitude, except for the feeling that they honestly don't know any better.
Posted by: f2000 at September 06, 2013 09:38 PM (FcMtg)
Posted by: t-bird at September 06, 2013 09:39 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 09:40 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 09:40 PM (J8Q1Z)
In the long run, I believe our SCOAMF will create a generation of completely cynical political skeptics - I see it happening with my progeny.
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 09:40 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 09:41 PM (GF1Nb)
Obama is already the greatest gun salesman in history. Here's hoping he has an even bigger influence on the political landscape.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 09:41 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 07, 2013 01:36 AM (J8Q1Z)
Oh, they will, but it will all be the fault of one GWB. And then they will double down on stupid, again and again. There's no other ending to this story. Detroit, writ large.
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 09:42 PM (XyrkB)
Probably resetting a wear sensor warning diagnostic on the computer. A cheap $50 OBD-2 read/scan/reset tool can do that. Some auto parts stores will read the diag code with a hand held OBD tool and reset it for free.
A pad/rotor change shouldn't in theory have any effect on ABS. ABS is usually just a wheel rotation sensor (ie. Hall Effect transistor that's triggering off a small magnet on the hubs. If the engine/transmission is applying power and the wheels aren't turning (i.e. skid), then the ABS system pulses the brakes to get wheels moving a bit to regain control.
The ABS system is typically completely divorced from the mechanical aspects of pads/rotors
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 09:42 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: akula51 at September 07, 2013 01:29 AM (4p5/2)
----------------------
A majority of you fucked things up by voting for Obama in 2008....(unlike the Boomers.)
A majority of you "fixed the shit" by re-electing Obama in 2012.
Time has already told. There are no Apple Jacks in the Gen-X bowl, only Kaboom.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 07, 2013 01:36 AM (C8mVl)
FDR was the turning point. Everything else since has been fleshing out the ramifications -- most of which are hideous and evil, though they initially sound good to the feeble-minded.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 09:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:43 PM (4p5/2)
Later roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 09:43 PM (yh0zB)
My wife was never very political. Her mom is a pretty vocal democrat, and so she used to vote that way just because. But lately she's been in a fuck-'em-all kind of mood. Which is an improvement.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 09:44 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:44 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 09:45 PM (J8Q1Z)
Margarita, we were the first group subjected to the public school indoctrination - I am rare amongst my friends and it has cost me socially. In the next cohort the brain washing is complete - they cannot even conceive of another way.
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 09:45 PM (WjS9o)
Any kid that pulls that should then be shown what life as a foster kid is like, which is where the social workers send them once the parents lose custody.
Posted by: kbdabear at September 06, 2013 09:45 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: akula51 at September 07, 2013 01:44 AM (4p5/2)
Terminator! Mystic?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 09:46 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 09:46 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 09:46 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:46 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 06, 2013 09:47 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:47 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 09:48 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at September 06, 2013 09:50 PM (NCc1Z)
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 09:50 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 09:50 PM (6TV0b)
http://on.fb.me/1dOXlS9
Posted by: akula51 at September 07, 2013 01:46 AM (4p5/2)
Su-WEEET! And a 'vert, too! (2011 GT/CS 'vert in race red, mostly stock)
http://tinyurl.com/k7t4mqc
OK, and now I'm really out, Seriously You Guys.
Later roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 06, 2013 09:52 PM (yh0zB)
Should the GOP institutionals crush Rand for 2016 as expected, it will be the final nail in the Republican coffin
Posted by: kbdabear at September 06, 2013 09:52 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:52 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 06, 2013 09:56 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 06, 2013 09:56 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 09:58 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 09:58 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 09:59 PM (J8Q1Z)
The Mustang was built on the Falcon chassis platform, so it'll fit easily
Just keep in mind that the 289 is heavier than the 6, so beef up the suspension and front brakes. Many who didn't learned the consequences of understeer and brake fade
Posted by: kbdabear at September 06, 2013 10:00 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 10:01 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 06, 2013 10:01 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 10:02 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 10:04 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 06, 2013 10:05 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 06, 2013 10:05 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 10:05 PM (6TV0b)
They had wear sensors on the front pads, but it was always the rear pads that wore out first.
I found that out the hard way on a 2000 Passat when the rears went down to metal on metal.
With a little research, turned out it wasn't an isolated case, that was just the way they were. I just put dramatically cheaper non-sensor pads on the front, jumpered the sensor harness to fake it out and taped it up out of the way. It was completely worthless.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 10:05 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 10:05 PM (GF1Nb)
Posted by: Bomber
I agree, this arbitrary generational divide crap is really mostly nonsense, and actually causes division amongst people who should be more united as they share common values.
I'm splat dab in the middle of the baby boom, 1955. But the gen Xers I know well, mainly from past work or are my cousins all share my work values. Geography may play as big a part as age as I live in rural IL.
I've had interns at work for the last 20 years or so, guess they would be Gen X & Y. All but a couple have been great workers, only a couple of f-ups in the group. Tho that could be due to my great skills in hiring, LOL.
Posted by: The Farmer at September 06, 2013 10:05 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 10:07 PM (6TV0b)
Know that Pink Floyd song Comfortablry Numb?
The version that would describe the LIVs would be called uncomfortably Dumb.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 10:08 PM (GF1Nb)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 10:09 PM (6TV0b)
Smells Like Teen Decomposition
Posted by: Zombie Kurt Cobain at September 06, 2013 10:09 PM (/9IC1)
Jesus was a communist. Or so I've been told.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 10:10 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Deety at September 06, 2013 10:11 PM (UaCt0)
Posted by: kalneva at September 06, 2013 10:11 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 10:12 PM (0axsw)
BTW, avoid 1999-2004 Acura TLs. The transmissions were crap and there is a high probability it will blow at anywhere from 60k to 120k miles regardless of how well you take care of it.
It started to improve in 2005, but 2007+ are the years to go with. You have been warned.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 10:12 PM (GF1Nb)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 10:12 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 10:12 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 06, 2013 10:12 PM (HVff2)
Kaboom (and Roe v Wade) threw away the future of an entire generation
Posted by: kbdabear at September 06, 2013 10:12 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 10:14 PM (6TV0b)
Open carry. You ever try to conceal a sword?
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 10:14 PM (+Wfbd)
They required that special factory coolant which didn't do anything special other than corrode the block and heads
Posted by: kbdabear at September 06, 2013 10:15 PM (/9IC1)
He is the most evil man America has ever had.
Posted by: The Political Hat
My folks had his book, tho I don't think they paid much attention to all of it. If I was bad they still spanked my azz, w/ a big wooden brush/shoehorn.
Hey can I still sue, maybe they warped me for life, made me think you can't be an obnoxious little shit when you want to be. I could fit into today's society so much better if they hadn't warped me so.
Posted by: The Farmer at September 06, 2013 10:15 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 06, 2013 10:15 PM (J8Q1Z)
Me too. I like, "If any shall not work, neither should he eat." But that was only St Paul.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 10:16 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 10:16 PM (6TV0b)
I have to. Don't want to end up on the sex offender list.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 06, 2013 10:17 PM (JawqV)
I love these leftist assholes that bumper stickers on their cars like:
"Who would Jesus Bomb?"
Little hint here you smug fuckwit- aborion doctors and their protectors.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 10:17 PM (GF1Nb)
Posted by: Dr. McCoy at September 06, 2013 10:18 PM (0axsw)
The 98' Jetta's rear has drums. Did the fronts a couple years ago and looked at the rear shoes and they were still like factory fresh. Just put the drums back on with some fresh grease and a new seal for the bearings.
These days, I just go with good metallic pads and new rotors. New aftermarket rotors for VW's are so cheap it doesn't pay to screw around trying to get'em cut.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 10:18 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 06, 2013 10:18 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 10:19 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 10:19 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 10:21 PM (0axsw)
That's Old Testament. Doesn't count anymore. Like stoning gays or something.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 10:21 PM (+Wfbd)
If I were to do that dream falcon, the whole drive train would have to be upgraded. IFS units are common, or a Mustang II thingie. I assume frame connectors, stiffening, probably roll bar and racing seats - lowered, matte black with shiny tooth custom grille - handling like a track car, crate 302, T5 - would be awesome ... now only if I had the skills and the money ... the cars are not rare.
They were talking about inspections on the pod cast. Our rules have changed here, and, honestly, the air inspections have cleaned up the brown cloud. Since the 80s our population has doubled or more, but the pollution is much better. We used to have safety inspections, as well as air, but there was too much corruption so they put that to an end.
That being said, they used to have a rolling 25 year classic registration, but they still had to pass the air test. They changed it, and drew a permanent line at '72 and now those cars are exempt, so you can do literally anything to them without fear.
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 10:22 PM (WjS9o)
WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER
COEXIST
MAKE LOVE NOT BOMBS
Posted by: kbdabear at September 06, 2013 10:22 PM (/9IC1)
It's strange. I bought some Brembo disc brakes. They warped. I had them turned and used different pads. They warped again. They were about $60-$70 each.
Before that I used some el-cheapo discs that were $20-30 each. Not a single problem. Frustrating and confusing.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 10:23 PM (GF1Nb)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 06, 2013 10:23 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 06, 2013 10:24 PM (HVff2)
"Scary fast" was always the description of their performance
Posted by: kbdabear at September 06, 2013 10:25 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 10:25 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 10:26 PM (GF1Nb)
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 10:26 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 06, 2013 10:26 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Luap Nor at September 06, 2013 10:27 PM (Vk2pI)
Someone gave me a Dasher diesel wagon for free when I first moved to FL. It had been T-boned, squashed in on the driver side all hunchback like and drove down the road kinda sideways and the doors didn't close right.
I took the seats out, and used a big freaking railroad car jack and a 4x4 to kinda stretch everything more or less back into place so the doors could at least be made to close.
I ran that car for several years after my Neanderthal body work without any problems...and it didn't chew up tires.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 10:27 PM (9MLX+)
Except that I don't think we do that.
Conservatives, in the traditional values sense, are the ones with a tradition because it led them to the right(er) choices that got them through the last major cataclysm when all the fools were consumed.
Posted by: Methos at September 06, 2013 10:28 PM (hO9ad)
RWC, LOL
WTF am I doing wrong? After a cut and paste I hit enter 3 times and it still all runs together. Is this the curse of Pixy?
Posted by: The Farmer at September 06, 2013 10:28 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 06, 2013 10:31 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at September 06, 2013 10:32 PM (NCc1Z)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 10:33 PM (6TV0b)
TKAW, more dollars does not always mean better. I do spring for the EBC greenstuff pads tho ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 10:35 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: RWC at September 06, 2013 10:36 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 06, 2013 10:37 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 10:38 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 06, 2013 10:38 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 07, 2013 02:26 AM (GF1Nb)
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Posted by: RWC at September 07, 2013 02:36 AM (6TV0b)
There are some flavors of Coexist stickers you'd best avoid -- http://tinyurl.com/34h3ses
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 10:39 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 06, 2013 10:39 PM (Vk2pI)
Pretty common vehicle. There should be all sorts of economical aftermarket parts for it..
Toyota dealers will of course ass rape you unmercifully.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 10:41 PM (9MLX+)
656 Not to get too technical Purp but they aren't Hall effect they're just passive coils (~700ohms). That's why they don't need a power source to operate like Hall effect sensors do. They're using simple magnetic trigger wheels.
Rotors usually warp (causing pedal pulsation on braking) due to some f'n jackass putting on the lugnuts with an impact. 90-95% of the time.
That's why we need a TORQUEWRENCH!!! Nothing personal TW...
Posted by: DAve at September 06, 2013 10:41 PM (OksBo)
Yep. Never saw a really good picture of it, but enough to know what it was.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 10:41 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 06, 2013 10:46 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 10:46 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 10:49 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 06, 2013 10:50 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 06, 2013 10:54 PM (HVff2)
I am aware of that. The problem is the reason leftists are successful in their infiltration through the institutions is that all their destructive ideas in one way or another fall into the category of temptation. As most people by nature will follow the wide and easy path, the lefties, over a long enough time frame will always win in terms of getting their way. And then they lose spectacularly, if not alone.
We can't tempt people to be good and/or sensible. You can discipline your kids to load the dice on their decision making in their favor. You can set a good example, and with the failure of the tempted to hold in comparison, those blessed with insight may see the error of those ways. But for the most part, people need to learn through experience (what we like to call the hard way).
Posted by: Methos at September 06, 2013 10:54 PM (hO9ad)
I've got an electric impact wrench I bought cheap at a pawn shop, but I haven't use it in years.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 10:54 PM (9MLX+)
For those who have noted this when I've leaked it to the press......I'm a CPA. A beancounter. Nuanced in revenue recognition with rebates, internal control over financial reporting, sales tax for items tested to destruction, and other such angels-dancing-on-the-head-of-a-pin bullshit minutiae.....and I can wire a house, patch drywall, change a tire, coax a bicycle chain back on, stop for pedestrians, and park on a hill......and it's like I'm speaking Greek to 80% of the people out there when I mention the latter......
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 10:57 PM (T1005)
Up next: The Giant Claw
I have no idea what its about, but what's not to like about giant claws?
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 10:59 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 06, 2013 11:01 PM (4p5/2)
Posted by: rickl at September 06, 2013 11:01 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2013 02:57 AM (T1005)
Hmmm.....I don't know what went "boing", but I think we're both picking up sympathetic vibrations.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 11:01 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 07, 2013 02:31 AM (qyfb5)
What are you supposed to do with 10 internets?
*recalls the song*
Oh. Right.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 06, 2013 11:04 PM (Q80i9)
cthulhu, I have seen the one where it's various firearms spelling out Coexist. I give a pass to those that are obviously one of our own.
Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith, the fact I have to cough up a kidney to get "decent" Brembo blanks turns me off on them. It's f*cking cast iron not titanium for crying out loud.
I really like the Hawk HPS pads, but they do produce a fair amount of dust. Best street pads I've ever had tho.
Purp, I also do the criss-cross and use a torque wrench for the final tightening. I am NOT happy to spend extra and get crap.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 11:05 PM (GF1Nb)
770 I used to talk about what I do at work but then someone who disagreed with me here started posting and acting like he was gonna make trouble with it.
Only thing worse than learning shitty things about assholes is not learning
Posted by: DAve at September 06, 2013 11:06 PM (OksBo)
I usually only notice 666 but somebody had called out 556 earlier.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 11:06 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 06, 2013 11:07 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 06, 2013 11:07 PM (Vk2pI)
It all started when towns started cracking down on "junk cars" in the 70's and phasing out various shop classes in high school.
Young people learned a lot about how shit works and using tools by screwing around with those "junk cars", even if they never got them running.
People will wait around all day for a plumber to change a shitter's flush valve for $150, when they could have just gone to Walmart, bought a Fluidmaster 4000, and a freaking cheap pair of pump pliers for under $20, driven home, and installed the damn thing total time start to finish, including WMT trip, maybe an hour and a half.
Basic mechanical competence is EMPOWERING. It can save you a ton of money as well as wasted days waiting around for "professionals" to show up.
How hard is it to put down the Internet for a half hour to save $150 and a day of thumb twiddling?
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 11:09 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 06, 2013 11:10 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 06, 2013 11:14 PM (FlRtG)
Ended up having to move into the wood VVEERRYY SSLLOOWWLLYY to make sure that the mill had some, but not too many, chips in the air. I'm suspecting that this was because the spindle speed on a drill press is 1/6 what it would be in a real mill. Am I on the right track?
I realize that I'm brainstorming things in unconventional ways, but that's sort of the idea. If I wanted things done exactly right, I'd take it to a pro or take classes on being a pro. But that a 4 flute mill moving into wood from the side ended up at such a crappy feed is irritating. From observing production CNC mills in aluminum, it should be like buttah.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 11:14 PM (T1005)
Cthulhu, I've also noticed how many people are utterly helpless when it comes to basic things. I'm no carpenter, mechanic, plumber, or outdoorsman, but compared to them I am which is sad to say the least.
My father MADE me learn such things and I am glad he did. I work with a 30 something year old guy who cannot change a tire. He just shrugs and says that is what Triple A is for. And if there is no Triple A anymore?
Oh well, if society goes to crap the prepared, more capable, or predators will need someone to benefit from.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 11:15 PM (GF1Nb)
Internet can actually be a big help. iPad or similar makes a damn fine repair manual for just about any kind of repair - automotive, home, whatever.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 11:15 PM (+Wfbd)
Driving out of this development the majority of people just blow through the stop signs. If the PBSO setup here, they could write tickets 7x24 until they got freaking carpal tunnel.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 11:16 PM (9MLX+)
Agreed Methos, it's hard to convince a kid when your opponents fundamental organizing principle is sex without consequence and unbridled hedonism.
However, I do not think withdrawal and condemnation are the correct response. I, for one, am not looking for a cataclysm so that I can validate my beliefs. I would prefer to avoid such, but we are pushing upstream at this point. Maybe humor is our only remaining weapon, IDK ...
At least we can laugh as we go soggy into the long, dark, greyish ooze that is all that remains of our bowl of Kaboom society ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 11:16 PM (WjS9o)
It all started when towns started cracking down on "junk cars" in the 70's and phasing out various shop classes in high school.
Young people learned a lot about how shit works and using tools by screwing around with those "junk cars", even if they never got them running.
People will wait around all day for a plumber to change a shitter's flush valve for $150, when they could have just gone to Walmart, bought a Fluidmaster 4000, and a freaking cheap pair of pump pliers for under $20, driven home, and installed the damn thing total time start to finish, including WMT trip, maybe an hour and a half.
Basic mechanical competence is EMPOWERING. It can save you a ton of money as well as wasted days waiting around for "professionals" to show up.
How hard is it to put down the Internet for a half hour to save $150 and a day of thumb twiddling?
Posted by: Purp at September 07, 2013 03:09 AM (9MLX+)
And it's easier now than it's ever been with stuff like ehow on the tubez. But the teeming masses ain't gonna go there.......it's icky, or something.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 11:18 PM (T1005)
Yeah me too. I wish I had paid more attention to some of it, but still, I do more than a lot of people.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 11:20 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 06, 2013 11:20 PM (qyfb5)
I don't think many of us are WISHING for a a cataclysm, it's just that i is where we expect it to go.
I know I am buying supplies to be prepared.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 11:20 PM (GF1Nb)
Yeah me too. I wish I had paid more attention to some of it, but still, I do more than a lot of people.
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 03:20 AM (+Wfbd)
Five houses paid my way through college. We started 'em, my dad made me work on 'em, we got 'em halfway and moved into 'em, and finished up the prior one for sale. I hated every evening I spent framing and every Saturday morning I had to get up before noon, and bitched constantly.
Damn, my old man was a genius.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 11:23 PM (T1005)
"Let it burn."
I never liked that approach, but I'm coming around to it.
If it must burn, let it burn in my day, so I can build it back right for my kids.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 11:24 PM (+Wfbd)
That said, the number of times I screwed up the family computer as a 9 year old must have been frustrating to the parents; then again, that's why they get free tech support now when I'm home.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 06, 2013 11:24 PM (Q80i9)
That's basic fear of the unknown. I admit, I'm affected by that too when its something new or I have to acquire some special new tools to do.
Mostly I beat it by doing a LOT of research, gathering tools and materials, searching for how others did it, and pouring over specs/manuals until I can run the job in my mind start to finish and anticipate show stopper problems (busted studs, stripped hex bolt heads, etc) and their resolutions.
Essentially, I build a mental model of the job, then keep running it until the anxiety subsides and confidence builds that I can handle all possible roadblocks...
...then when I take the sandals off and put the work shoes on, I'm committed to starting it. If I don't conciously take the sandals off, I'll procrastinate all freaking day ;->
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 11:27 PM (9MLX+)
Cthulu you are a true renaissance man. I'm still learning lots of stuff, and you tube is my best source. I do regret not taking the shop classes, but the other things I took were of use. What I need now is more practice, and some experienced help. It's a scary proposition to do things on cars you have never done before on your own, because safety. In my technical work, I tell my mentees my path to knowledge :
1) Read
2) Do
3) Read some more
4) Do some more
5) Fix????
6) Master!
Purp, good point - see y'alls later ...
Posted by: Joe at September 06, 2013 11:29 PM (WjS9o)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 06, 2013 11:29 PM (qyfb5)
We did driveway car repair. Partly because we didn't have the money to pay somebody else to fix it. Newest family car we had was 15 years old. I still do all the minor (and some major) vehicle maintenance. Drive it till the wheels fall off, then put them back on and drive it some more.
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 11:30 PM (+Wfbd)
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That's basic fear of the unknown. I admit, I'm affected by that too when its something new or I have to acquire some special new tools to do.
Posted by: Purp at September 07, 2013 03:27 AM (9MLX+)
Or if you're my parents ...
"Go fix that"
"Okay"
<several hours later>
"Huh. That's how not to do it"
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 06, 2013 11:31 PM (Q80i9)
Actual factory repair manuals help a lot with that sort of thing. I spent $250 for the Bentley manual and VW factory repair DVD when I started doing the serious shit on this Jetta diesel. That shit already paid for itself several times over already.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 11:32 PM (9MLX+)
Bomber, ever see where Louie Anderson is talking about when he was a child and his father made him work on cars with him? That was a bit of my childhood and made me laugh just out of the shared memories.
My dad worked his way through life. He had a job at 16 picking up dead bodies from accidents. He worked highrise construction (which almost got him killed) and worked at Joliet Arsenal making TNT. He ended up guarding a few presidents. He got to guard Reagan (his hero) and met Bob Hope. Said Reagan was nice guy who treated them like equals and would ask about their families etc.
He said Carter was an arrogant, elitest prick who treated them like garbage.
Anyway, I get some of my work ethic from him. I'm just old enough to be part of the generation that sees being a slacker as pathetic and something to be ashamed of.
Well, goodnight all. I have a memorial to attend tomorrow and I suspect the widow and family would be offended if I nodded off while there.
Stay safe.
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at September 06, 2013 11:34 PM (GF1Nb)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 06, 2013 11:35 PM (qyfb5)
That's basic fear of the unknown. I admit, I'm affected by that too when its something new or I have to acquire some special new tools to do.
Mostly I beat it by doing a LOT of research, gathering tools and materials, searching for how others did it, and pouring over specs/manuals until I can run the job in my mind start to finish and anticipate show stopper problems (busted studs, stripped hex bolt heads, etc) and their resolutions.
Essentially, I build a mental model of the job, then keep running it until the anxiety subsides and confidence builds that I can handle all possible roadblocks...
...then when I take the sandals off and put the work shoes on, I'm committed to starting it. If I don't conciously take the sandals off, I'll procrastinate all freaking day ;->
Posted by: Purp at September 07, 2013 03:27 AM (9MLX+)
There's a knack to developing a plan and mentally executing it to shake down problems. Lots of folks just plain can't. I find, myself, that I can do it better if multiple people are involved. A gets stalled, B's trudging on, you assign A to help B and break up A's logjam. A restarts, but he's behind, you borrow an hour of B for A.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 11:36 PM (T1005)
This, though nieces and nephews in my case.
Let It Burn isn't, in my mind, about total annihilation (I note that I haven't seen any of the LIB crowd supporting Obama's provocation of Russia over in Syria). It's about ending the schemes currently in place to keep the consequences of bad decisions at bay and accumulating.
Posted by: Methos at September 06, 2013 11:38 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 06, 2013 11:38 PM (FlRtG)
Kaboom was an awesome cereal that embodied the revolutionary spirit of this once great nation. Kids today are suspended from school if they even speak its name.
Kaboom haters are forgetting the most important thing: It. Had. Marshmallows.
Marshmallows. Freaking *candy* for breakfast! How cool was that? Sure, the rest of it looked like dog food, but that was just to make your parents think it was healthy. Every morning those impish little faces would laugh diabolically alongside you at the hoax you'd pulled off.
Apple Jacks, on the other hand, was a cereal for establishment suck-ups. Apples are those things your parents and teachers kept trying to get you to eat. Process them into cereal, add some sugar, and suddenly they're cool? Please. Even a six year old can see through such a transparent ruse.
Posted by: schizoid at September 06, 2013 11:40 PM (Rr429)
Cthulu you are a true renaissance man. I'm still learning lots of stuff, and you tube is my best source. I do regret not taking the shop classes, but the other things I took were of use. What I need now is more practice, and some experienced help. It's a scary proposition to do things on cars you have never done before on your own, because safety. In my technical work, I tell my mentees my path to knowledge:
1) Read
2) Do
3) Read some more
4) Do some more
5) Fix????
6) Master!
Purp, good point - see y'alls later ...
Posted by: Joe at September 07, 2013 03:29 AM (WjS9o)
I am in no way a Renaissance man.....but I'm game to try most anything. And, when I say "most", I mean stuff like.....I'll try anything electrical where I can shut everything down (e.g. I won't do the service box, 'cause half of that's always hot). I won't do automobile brakes (I don't ever want to guess my way through and have a toddler wander in front of my car). I won't overhaul my own SCUBA regs. And I won't phony-up building code inspections. I only do stuff that's easily understandable and where I firmly believe a nuance won't kill anyone.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 06, 2013 11:43 PM (T1005)
ex. wobbly extensions totally rock. Sometimes they can save you from having to dismantle everything. I've got an angle drive attachment for a standard drill that can get into spots a regular 90 degree drill or even a stubby screwdriver couldn't. Black and Decker makes it and they sell'em at WMT. Milwaukee makes one too but the cheap Black and Decker is a better value and holds up well.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 06, 2013 11:43 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Bomber at September 06, 2013 11:49 PM (+Wfbd)
The problem is what do you (anyone, generally) mean by fixing it? If you mean getting back the prosperity of the 80s and 90s, then what you are trying to do is reestablish a lie that is in the last stages of coming undone.
Unless you are near retirement age, you have no memory of America being truly prosperous. We have been faking prosperity through expanding credit for a long time. That only works as long as you can find exponentially more suckers to load up on debt and who are capable of making payments on it to keep the system moving. Once you run out, either of suckers, or capacity to make payments, the mess unravels, with the opposite effect you got while it was accumulating. This isn't something that can be 'fixed' any more than we can prevent avalanches.
Once those gathered consequences have cleared, then we can consider fixing things based on where we are afterwards and what folks have learned.
Posted by: Methos at September 06, 2013 11:53 PM (hO9ad)
middle school. My son is in middle school. And middle school kids like weird things.
Middle-Schoolers and Administrators made me give up teaching
Posted by: bill-o at September 06, 2013 11:54 PM (AWwDY)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at September 06, 2013 11:28 PM (EPcGF)
ah, shit, we gotta call you Chelsea now?
Now THAT is funny!
Posted by: bill-o at September 06, 2013 11:57 PM (AWwDY)
cthulhu:
You are wearing ANSI eye protection, correct?
Do you have a drill press or a mill? Chucks, like on most drills, are not designed to take any side loads ... at all. I do not think you will grenade the chuck, but you are likely to break / eject the end mill.
If you can use collets on the spindle of your equipment, then you can safely mill.
Note that end mills, in general, are not designed to plunge like a drill. You are likely to get away with doing so in wood, but you should expect to regret doing so in aluminum, and certainly in steel.
The spindle RPM for wood is higher than aluminum, but I don't know what it is. Wood is normally not milled on equipment used for metal, as the chips get in the ways and coolant.
I'd use a 2 flute end mill for wood, as the chips will clear quicker than with a 4-flute end mill. I recently picked up the wrong end mill, and re-learned this lesson.
If you use a .250 endmill ... for aluminum, the spindle RPM should be 4800 RPM ... for wood, probably higher. I'm guessing that your equipment is limited to 2500RPM or so, so you will have to feed slower.
If you put the endmill in a collet, and then into the spindle, try about 0.050" depth of cut, 3" per minute feed. This is very slow feed.
If you get a "springy" sensation when feeding, or an increase in resistance, then the endmill may be clogged, and about to break, or both.
FWIW, the machining class starts in about 2 weeks, and they have very much more information.
Posted by: Arbalest at September 07, 2013 03:38 AM (FlRtG)
1. As a matter of fact, I was wearing eye protection, where I normally wouldn't....because I knew I was stretching equipment in ways I wasn't fully experienced in doing.
2. I was using a drill press as a mill. I know it's folly, and -- furthermore -- I own a real mill. But it was a quickie project with no precision to "warm up the tools". I stalled the chuck a couple of times, which was "edgy" enough.
3. No plunging involved. Certainly wouldn't have 4-fluted if I were contemplating same.
4. Interesting and noted about 2-flutes clearing faster. I'd been looking to 4-flute for more smooth, machined outcomes.
5. The feed was painfully, painfully, painfully slow....and I think you confirmed that in your "aluminum should be 4800" comment.
Advice and comments most appreciated!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2013 12:03 AM (T1005)
ALL of the supposed GDP "growth" for the past 4 years is accounted for by the $800B (now baked into the cake every year on a recurring basis) "stimulus" spending which is counted as part of GDP. Without that "stimulus", GDP declines would be in the 1.5%/yr range.
The Obama economy, as weak as it is, is based on fraudulent misrepresentations. The reality is we've been in an actual negative GDP depression for the past 4+ years and just making believe we're not.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 07, 2013 12:09 AM (9MLX+)
ALL of the supposed GDP "growth" for the past 4 years is accounted for by the $800B (now baked into the cake every year on a recurring basis) "stimulus" spending which is counted as part of GDP. Without that "stimulus", GDP declines would be in the 1.5%/yr range.
The Obama economy, as weak as it is, is based on fraudulent misrepresentations. The reality is we've been in an actual negative GDP depression for the past 4+ years and just making believe we're not.
Posted by: Purp at September 07, 2013 04:09 AM (9MLX+)
FOUR?
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=4247
Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2013 12:12 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 07, 2013 12:13 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 07, 2013 12:14 AM (FlRtG)
The big divergence seems to have started around 1993. Something seems to have happened then...
...one guess.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 07, 2013 12:17 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 07, 2013 12:19 AM (qyfb5)
The caffeine supply dwindled to critical levels today.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 07, 2013 12:21 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 07, 2013 12:23 AM (9MLX+)
At 4800RPM, 2 flutes., 0.015" DOC and .002" chip, the feed rate in aluminum is about 19 IPM ... reasonably fast.
Was your wood a thin sheet, maybe 1/4" thick? Be careful, as it will flex when clamped tightly in a vise ... and when cut, may break. Clamping with hold-downs alleviates much of this ... but be sure to never cut or drill through the material.
NO ONE wants to be the clown that cuts the table or vise ... at least, I don't. I mount everything on a fixture plate that I expect to cut.
Posted by: Arbalest at September 07, 2013 04:14 AM (FlRtG)
All over that stuff....the basic game is that I bought a package of stuff from Little Machine Shop, and got a set of parallels in a box where the dividers were all destroyed in shipping. Thought, "dirt easy if you can X-Y your tool", and -- since I had another reason to own a HFT cross-slide vise for my drill press, went for it.
Destroyed dividers were in lumber like 1/4" x 7-1/16", cut with notches for the 10 parallels from 1/2" by 1/8" -- so I figured ("simplify, simplify, simplify!") that I'd clamp in some 1x4 lumber and do transverse slots, then trim to 7-1/16 long and whatever high.
First attempt, clamped the lumber and moved in, and tore the crap out of the workpiece. Obviously moved in to fast with a spindle too slow. Next attempt, got a reasonable slot (with some burning) after about 30 minutes of moving.
Currently mulling over my busy day.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2013 12:33 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2013 12:38 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 12:46 AM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 07, 2013 12:51 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 12:52 AM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 12:53 AM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 12:56 AM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 07, 2013 12:57 AM (qyfb5)
This time, they're slightly ahead of that pace. This is #7 since March. All IDF except for one RPG towards the wall.
Just enough to let us know they're still there.
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 01:00 AM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 01:02 AM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 07, 2013 01:11 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Bomber at September 07, 2013 01:34 AM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: RickZ at September 07, 2013 03:58 AM (UppT9)
It's far worse than that. Stockman's book make it pretty clear the whole Dot.com bubble was sheer fakery, using the guise of tech enthusiasm to run a lot of financial scams. The insane valuation of companies that had no real income or potential for such makes a lot more sense in this light.
He also notes that we would have seen some pretty brutal bouts of inflation in the last twenty ears if not for the effect of China becoming our manufacturing sector. What made Apple into a consumer electronics powerhouse was a major deflation in finished goods that served to hide the inflation of the money. Some of these products we've become accustomed to have a hidden cost that allowed them to appear a few years earlier than their cost should have allowed.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 07, 2013 03:59 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Mister Redline at September 07, 2013 04:00 AM (k0Q5l)
Ed Asner fully off his meds.
http://tinyurl.com/mhucthp
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 07, 2013 04:06 AM (dEC8z)
Posted by: CDR M at September 07, 2013 06:36 AM (OJvfL)
CDR M :-)
I am a regular reader of ONT, and enjoy the wide variety of information and entertainment provided gratis by you guys.
Wondered if it was a 1 month anniv (?) of Hiroshima or some such commemoration in the content ...
Cheers!
Posted by: Saxon at September 07, 2013 08:50 AM (TCY1/)
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