July 14, 2013
— Maetenloch
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An article at the American Spectator by Daniel Flynn that tries (too hard IMO) to draw parallel between Martin and Zimmerman as boy-men missing male role models.
Zimmerman's screams and Trayvon slamming Zimmerman's head into the concrete weren't the acts of men. A man is neither a woman nor an animal. The proper response to an assault by a 158-pound teenager isn't to scream for help or grab for a gun. It is to punch back or better yet subdue and issue a spanking. And a sucker punch, the repeated hitting of a downed opponent, and the bashing of a skull against the concrete doesn't pass muster with the Marquess of Queensberry. Perhaps the "No Holds Barred Fighting" dojo that Zimmerman had signed up for would approve.
Their households lacked strong male role models; their society, even more so.
Eh - I'm not convinced that Zimmerman really fits Flynn's glib thesis.
Explaining Eliot Spitzer - He's Crazy
John Podhoretz recounts a personal experience with Eliot Spitzer:
His behavior was so glaringly inappropriate, so tonally deaf and such a weird assault for a man who had supposedly been humbled as he had been humbled, that I figured something out I had not understood until that moment: Eliot Spitzer is nuts.
I don't mean he's nuts in a tinfoil-hat sense. I mean that he doesn't respond to reality in a normal way, and therefore misjudges reality and himself.
Plus he has a long history of lying and inappropriate conduct:
One night, Spitzer called me at home. My wife answered and said I was in the shower. He screamed to get me on the phone. She brought it over and I turned off the water.As I stood there dripping wet, the attorney general then screamed at me: "You can't say this about me!" I tried to calm him down, but he kept screaming. I said it was inappropriate to call me at home - I didn't call him at home, but he kept screaming. I said that he was now a public official and had to get accustomed to criticism because there surely was going to be more. He kept screaming.
I said goodbye and went back to my shower.
School Shooters
We associate school shooters with young boys but for a long time most of them were girls. Such as Brenda Ann Spencer (1979) and Laurie Dann (198
. Needless to say both were mentally ill.
Okay no problem.
Computer Glitches, Smokers, and Obamacare
Dr. Gwyneth Paltrow Says Tanning Is Totally Safe
"We're human beings and the sun is the sun - how can it be bad for you? I think we should all get sun and fresh air. I don't think anything that is natural can be bad for you - it's really good to have at least 15 minutes of sun a day."
Well we do need a certain amount of sun to maintain adequate vitamin D levels (which is far more critical than most people think) but as usual Paltrow believes so many dumb things that she occasionally comes up with a valid conclusion but for the wrong reasons.
From the Morons:
The Problem with Texas Democratic Party: Hate (thanks to BCochran)
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saw pacific rim with my boy today. thanks to the morons who tipped us off to wait through the credits. I got to be the cool mom who knew we needed to keep our butts in our seats.
I liked the movie, it was a good summer movie. My favorite part was the Newton balls. (and you can't call that a spoiler because my gosh that would be the most obscure spoiler in the history of spoilers)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at July 14, 2013 05:57 PM (RZ8pf)
Classic definition of a liberal.
Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at July 14, 2013 05:58 PM (uLzrM)
pissed-off grizzly bears, tornadoes, and meteor impacts- all perfectly natural
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 14, 2013 05:59 PM (8sCoq)
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Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:05 PM (CA2NO)
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Posted by: Splunge at July 14, 2013 06:07 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:07 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 06:08 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Andy at July 14, 2013 06:08 PM (li+aS)
Nah, I'm just playin'! Fuck that candy-ass cracka...
Posted by: Rev Al at July 14, 2013 06:09 PM (IGIFh)
Best Amazon product reviews ever: Veet For Men Hair Removal Gel Crème. Since the link thingy isn't working, just paste this http://tinyurl.com/nocqtbj
Posted by: RightWingProf at July 14, 2013 06:09 PM (E/o+q)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 14, 2013 06:09 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 14, 2013 06:10 PM (eMPxS)
Oh goody, the "only cowards use guns" argument. Plus "real men don't call for help"? Seriously?
The article is worthless. It's the kind of shit you'd read in some "alpha male" blog run by douchebags, which judging by Mr. Flynn's website, he is.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 06:10 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:10 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:10 PM (jIaZt)
Yes, if we were already full zombie-apocalypse, and there were no guns in sight, and the sides were equal - then the Trojan-War rules of single combat might apply. But in this case we had a line of defence against barbarism, which was manned by Zimmerman; and a barbarian, who was Martin.
I think some people on the furthest right are too keen for that Heroic Age. Well, we're not supposed to be living in a Heroic Age. We're supposed to be living in a civilised age. And in a civilised age, the barbarians don't get into the gates and, when they do get in, they get educated in civilised behavior or else escorted out.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 14, 2013 06:11 PM (d7tB2)
A lot of this going around today. I've seen dudes on Twitter saying that GZ should have turned the gun around and hit St. Trayvon with the butt end of the handle. I shit you not.
Posted by: Rev Al at July 14, 2013 06:11 PM (IGIFh)
Oh. Just woke up. I dreamed I was in a thread with a friggin spider that two hot 'ettes were fighting over. And a couple of 'rons who were more worried about what a 6'5" skandi guy would do to them than their wives with knives.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 06:11 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at July 14, 2013 06:11 PM (tEMfu)
He's been watching too much TV. Has this guy ever been involved in or seen a bar fight?
Judging by his bio, he was in the Marines from 1994 to 2002. You know, the peacetime years. He learned just enough to think that he knows more than he actually does, would be my guess. That and probably a few bar fights with his buddies to back him up.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 06:13 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 06:13 PM (GEICT)
Hanging from the mech or the monsters?
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 06:14 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Andy at July 14, 2013 06:15 PM (li+aS)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:15 PM (jIaZt)
Question of the night: If Star Wars is so awesome, why are all the Star Wars video games duds?
For a long time Star Wars games were good. X-Wing, Tie Fighter, Rebel Assault, Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series, and Knights of the Old Republic were all very fun games. The problem is that once we got to the prequels, George Lucas turned the universe to shit and focused on games for little kids.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 06:16 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:16 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at July 14, 2013 06:16 PM (9zx9u)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 06:16 PM (T1005)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:17 PM (CA2NO)
Umm, wut?
http://tinyurl.com/ocgu4o2
and
http://tinyurl.com/nu98bkb
Weren't duds (for example).
Posted by: Gman at July 14, 2013 06:17 PM (UkbKS)
Send her a bill for your time.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 14, 2013 06:19 PM (Fz2C7)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 14, 2013 06:19 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 14, 2013 06:19 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 14, 2013 06:19 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:20 PM (CA2NO)
In a just world, he would shunned and hidden away like Quasimodo, but this is not a just world.
Posted by: General Zod at July 14, 2013 06:20 PM (Jsiw/)
I had Dark Forces and found it quite boring.
I don't know what to tell you. I found it fun, although less so than the later Jedi Knight sequels. And I don't know how many hours I spent playing X-Wing and Tie-Fighter as a kid. Good times.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 06:20 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: C_E 1704 _KS at July 14, 2013 06:20 PM (62iCc)
Posted by: Face Sized Spider at July 14, 2013 06:20 PM (OSARm)
Send the company a bill for the consulting hours worked.
What's the worst that can happen--they ignore it?
Who knows? Some dweeb in the accounting department actually cuts you a check? It gets bumped around the bureaucracy, lands on her bosses bosses desk who comes down and says "I didn't approve anything like this--what's this about" and gets her tits in a royal bureaucratic wringer?
Could be worth it just for sheer entertainment value. You could always assert you had an "implied contract" or some such bs.
Posted by: filbert at July 14, 2013 06:20 PM (7vimm)
Trouble is when the SHTF, these people are incapable of handling crisis or failure because they never thought it was possible
The Wages Of Overconfidence Is Success
http://tinyurl.com/oerv9kj
Posted by: kbdabear at July 14, 2013 06:21 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:22 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:22 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:22 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 06:22 PM (lr3d7)
A martial arts question for y'all, from someone who reads a lot about historic martial arts but hasn't been in a serious fight:
A bunch of folks have pointed out that someone in the position Zimmermann found himself in, pinned down on his back with Martin punching his face from above, can't deliver an effective punch. Could he reach up and grab at his opponent's head, and either pull it down to where he could get his teeth into play or dig his thumbs into his opponents eyes? Is the need to protect the head so overwhelming that no offensive action is possible?
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 14, 2013 06:23 PM (GSVmp)
I don't know what to tell you.
Answers, dammit! I want answers!!
I was just wondering why most video games based on successful motion pictures are often crappy.
Posted by: Soothsayer, a.k.a. hose-b at July 14, 2013 06:23 PM (FC8Yl)
Nobody watching the critically acclaimed Aaron Sorkin hit "The Newsroom"?
Imagine that.
Why would we? 90% of the dialogue is recycled straight from Sports Night and The West Wing.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 06:23 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Face Sized Spider at July 14, 2013 06:23 PM (OSARm)
You're still on Facebook?
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 14, 2013 06:23 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 14, 2013 06:24 PM (eMPxS)
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Like the PHD educated Islamic realtor I know who believes the Joos flew planes into the twin towers.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 06:24 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: General Zod at July 14, 2013 06:25 PM (Jsiw/)
What I wonder at this point is where his politics are.
Posted by: RiverC at July 14, 2013 06:25 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:25 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 06:25 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 06:26 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Thrawn at July 14, 2013 06:26 PM (KiyII)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:26 PM (qRWdI)
Zimmerman was carrying a gun, which was meant for spotting thugs at 20 yards and keeping them at bay; but, in this case, was at his side, since Martin jumped him first. And Martin, IIRC, knew that the gun was there.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 14, 2013 06:27 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at July 14, 2013 06:27 PM (M7Cfv)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:28 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:28 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 14, 2013 06:28 PM (BXLPR)
There may be those options mentioned. But they require the need to have trained enough that muscle memory kicks in after the first blow to the head for that to be viable.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 06:28 PM (qo244)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:28 PM (CA2NO)
A bunch of folks have pointed out that someone in the position Zimmermann found himself in, pinned down on his back with Martin punching his face from above, can't deliver an effective punch. Could he reach up and grab at his opponent's head, and either pull it down to where he could get his teeth into play or dig his thumbs into his opponents eyes? Is the need to protect the head so overwhelming that no offensive action is possible?
Not as easy as you'd think even without someone punching you in the face.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 06:28 PM (lr3d7)
You have to be an experienced fighter/wrestler to fight in the guard position. Royce Gracie would literally lie on his back and invite his opponent to jump on him. From the guard (the bottom) Gracie would wait for his opponent to throw strikes and catch a wrist or arm to apply a painful lock.
But most people can't do that.
Posted by: Soothsayer, a.k.a. hose-b at July 14, 2013 06:28 PM (LVtr+)
Yeah . . . .
That's kinda tough to do when some dude who's younger and bigger than you are is straddling you, pounding your skull into the concrete in a pretty obvious effort to kill you or at least cause you grievous bodily harm.
Or maybe you're referring to the call Zimmerman didn't make to 911? Oh, wait, Zimmerman DID call 911 . . .
Martin would be alive today if he would have just gone home rather than seek out a confrontation with Zimmerman. Period. This is a fact in evidence, and is not in dispute.
Zimmerman was Not Guilty. Period. This is also a fact, as judged by a jury of his peers, after all the available evidence was laid before them.
Posted by: filbert at July 14, 2013 06:28 PM (7vimm)
If you were gutsy you could have headbutted your opponent into submission. I mean, realistically GZ had lots of options, but the real problem is training. You can't think like you're thinking during a fight, and for you to do a move effectively you have to be trained so the muscle memory works. Unless you train headbutting people, the chances of an ordinary person both responding with a headbutt and that headbutt being effective in that position are slim.
The gun truly makes men equal.
Posted by: RiverC at July 14, 2013 06:28 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:29 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 14, 2013 06:29 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz, riot prepper at July 14, 2013 06:29 PM (93Wy+)
Doesn't square with my understanding.
GZ says that when TM first came up to him, he started to fumble in his pocket for his phone. When he looked down. TM nailed him straight in the nose with a punch. From the front.
I'm not sure GZ has given an adequate account of what happened right after that, in terms of how the fight went to the ground, and frankly, he may not be able to, due to inability to remember accurately.
For those of you who have not ever soaked up a full force punch right in the nose, with muscle behind it, it's instantly disorienting and extremely painful. The overwhelming instinct is to immediately reach up to the hurt nose with one's hands, which of course means those hands aren't blocking additional incoming punches or punching back. Instant disadvantage. Very bad place to be. (Been there. Done that. Don't want to try it again.)
I said the other day that it showed major tactical stupid on GZ's part to go out in the dark and the rain after an unknown possible hostile without a serious flashlight in his hands. Not least because it would have been a lot harder for TM to throw that first punch accurately after being flashdazzled and losing his dark-adapted vision. It's a cheap, legal, nonlethal way to give you a defensive edge when bad things happen after nightfall.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 14, 2013 06:29 PM (gqT4g)
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Posted by: Thrawn at July 14, 2013 06:30 PM (KiyII)
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Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 14, 2013 06:31 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 14, 2013 06:31 PM (8SsiG)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 10:11 PM (4Mv1T)
No wife with or without knife, but still sensible enough to be wary of the 6'5" skandi guy.
Evening roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 14, 2013 06:32 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:32 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: RiverC at July 14, 2013 06:32 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 06:32 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 06:32 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:33 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: RiverC at July 14, 2013 06:33 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 14, 2013 06:33 PM (W9Qyw)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 14, 2013 06:33 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Face Sized Spider at July 14, 2013 06:33 PM (OSARm)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 06:34 PM (GEICT)
The real driver for the legalization of criminal aliens is that many businesses operate in such a manner and with such requirements that if they did not have the threat of immediate termination, they would not be able to operate.
These businesses are usually those who have dirty, dangerous or otherwise distasteful environments. On top of which they also make physical demands (few or no bathroom breaks, no or short rest breaks, no or short food breaks) and have abusive and sometimes violent supervisors.
They know they would not be able to retain legal citizen workers and would also risk being informed on to the relevant State or Federal Agency for violation of job site rules and safety.
They LIKE having ignorant, frightened and compliant workers who have low monetary requirements. Their requirements are low because they also live in substandard housing or crowd in with dozens of others (also a local or state crime). These conditions also would be revealed or eliminated if the illegal workers were not there to be taken advantage of.
This, I believe, is the impetus for the Pubs embrace of immigration amnesty and a refusal to pass laws that actually would limit or stop illegal immigrants.
It's a Big Business folks.
The employers, the landlords, the check cashing stores.
And to be fair, the American Consumer.
The insistent drive to have goods and services at the lowest cost is what drives the entire buggy.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at July 14, 2013 06:34 PM (28TG+)
Posted by: filbert at July 14, 2013 10:28 PM (7vimm)
What the fuck are you talking about? Zimmerman called for help while on the ground, we have the recordings and his own testimony. I was responding to douchebag Flynn's argument that calling for help was somehow unmanly. It's not. Calling for help was exactly the correct thing to do. The problem was that the people who heard his calls chose not to intervene. If they had, then they would likely have interrupted the fight and TM would be alive.
No where did I blame GZ for anything.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 06:34 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Thrawn at July 14, 2013 06:34 PM (KiyII)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:34 PM (CA2NO)
That was a stupid argument by the state IMO. Too many variables come into play. Raining that night and the ground was wet, Martin's legs could have been spread quite wide due to the slick grass and Zimmerman would have had all the room needed to pull a small pistol out from an inside the waistband holster. Lots of other possibilities too.
Posted by: Adam at July 14, 2013 06:34 PM (Aif/5)
Evening roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter
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We take the bad with the good.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 06:34 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Another fapping moron at July 14, 2013 06:35 PM (EV3Uf)
We have the potential for Ette on Ette action!
BATTLE STATIONS!!!
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Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 06:35 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:35 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:36 PM (jIaZt)
Because most of them are produced by Lucas?
He's got his fat finger in every one that I remember.
Do you really expect an ego maniac that has had his taste and opinion permanently elevated to God level by the votes of millions to be humble and let those who are knowledgeable on how to program a video game actually do what they think best?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at July 14, 2013 06:36 PM (28TG+)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:37 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:37 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 14, 2013 06:37 PM (QupBk)
If you ever find yourself on your back taking punches, resist your natural urge to roll over. NEVER give your opponent your neck; he'll choke you out in 2 seconds.
Your better off staying on your back, staying calm (to save energy), and use your back and legs to wriggle free. The best thing an inexperienced fighter can do is your attacker's clothes against him. Grab his shirt and pull him down.
Posted by: Soothsayer, a.k.a. hose-b at July 14, 2013 06:37 PM (NLH1M)
Posted by: RiverC at July 14, 2013 06:37 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 06:38 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: jmel at July 14, 2013 06:38 PM (cfFqn)
Posted by: CarolT at July 14, 2013 06:39 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:39 PM (qRWdI)
What makes you say that? Several of them were critical favorites and sold quite well. Has the franchise been overused? Sure but there are a lot of gamers who'd be very happy to see something as good as Tie Fighter again.
Posted by: epobirs at July 14, 2013 06:39 PM (kcfmt)
Screw that noise. I don't care if all the watchmen are, literally, The Watchmen. I just want them to be good enough to protect the area.
Zimmerman did good enough, up to the point when Martin decided he wanted a free gun and some thug cred.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 14, 2013 06:39 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Arbalest at July 14, 2013 06:39 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Tuna at July 14, 2013 06:39 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:40 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Another fapping moron at July 14, 2013 06:40 PM (EV3Uf)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:40 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Gingy at July 14, 2013 06:41 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 06:41 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at July 14, 2013 06:41 PM (1wI7y)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 06:41 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 14, 2013 06:41 PM (w0R1b)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:41 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Things at July 14, 2013 06:41 PM (GmTxn)
Posted by: Paul at July 14, 2013 06:41 PM (iOKOr)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 14, 2013 06:42 PM (w0R1b)
Posted by: Thrawn at July 14, 2013 06:42 PM (KiyII)
Posted by: filbert at July 14, 2013 10:28 PM (7vimm)
After all the evidence for the prosecution's story was laid before them, and the defending counsel laid out the information he didn't get slow-boated on by the State and could get past the judge, who was running interference for the lynch mob.
FIFY.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 06:43 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 06:43 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 14, 2013 06:43 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:43 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Another fapping moron at July 14, 2013 06:43 PM (EV3Uf)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 06:44 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:44 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: UWP at July 14, 2013 06:44 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 06:45 PM (GEICT)
Oh, the usual. Not reading all the thread comments, and having had just about enough of discussions elsewhere on the Internet second-guessing Zimmerman and thereby subtly (or not-so-subtly) implying that "yeah, the jury said 'not guilty' but actually . . ."
That's all. I don't usually have quite that sensitive a hair trigger.
Could be the lack of Captain Morgan in the bloodstream tonight, I guess.
Posted by: filbert at July 14, 2013 06:45 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:45 PM (CA2NO)
Does anyone know what the final opinion was of how close TrayTable was to home before going back to confront Zimmerman?
I get the feeling, from a map if the proposed routes, that he was within 10 yards of his father's girlfriend's door, but I'm not sure.
Did they ever find the skittles and ice tea? If they weren't close by when he was killed that is a pretty good indication that he did in fact make it home before returning to confront Zimmerman. That might be why his 12 yo cousin didn't react when the police arrived at the scene - he knew that Trayvon had gone out to pick a fight and didn't want to get involved.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 14, 2013 06:45 PM (GSVmp)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:45 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:45 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Soothsayer, a.k.a. hose-b at July 14, 2013 10:11 PM (FC8Yl)
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Looks like someone never played "X-Wing" or "Tie Fighter".
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 14, 2013 06:46 PM (lxc0s)
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 06:46 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Another fapping moron at July 14, 2013 06:46 PM (EV3Uf)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:47 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Infidel at July 14, 2013 06:47 PM (SkhKv)
Posted by: Adam at July 14, 2013 06:47 PM (Aif/5)
Having said that, I understand there are many people who are prevented from being fit because of injuries or other conditions. The gun is the great equalizer and will always be so.
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 10:35 PM (qRWdI)
Yeah, that's why I carry a gun, cause I'm too old to fight and too fat to run. If I could kung-fu my way out of an ass kicking I wouldn't need the gun.
jfc, love those monday morning quarterbacks...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 14, 2013 06:47 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:47 PM (qRWdI)
Derra IV, for a start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRcunlrN2zo
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 14, 2013 06:47 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:47 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:47 PM (yoh1c)
Well, I don't recall saying that the "available evidence" at least as presented by the prosecution was worth a wet fart in a rainstorm, but it WAS presented, anyway.
Posted by: filbert at July 14, 2013 06:48 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 14, 2013 06:48 PM (w0R1b)
Posted by: Thrawn at July 14, 2013 06:48 PM (KiyII)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 14, 2013 06:49 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 06:49 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 14, 2013 06:49 PM (jIaZt)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 14, 2013 06:50 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:50 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 06:51 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 14, 2013 06:51 PM (eMPxS)
Posted by: Gingy at July 14, 2013 06:51 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 06:51 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 14, 2013 06:51 PM (GSVmp)
http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/e6d1/
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 06:51 PM (qo244)
Second this, and also would add this whole story is a sad result of the attitude of many CCW holders to merely be comfortable firing their weapon while mostly or completely ignoring physical fitness and MMA training. If Zimmerman was able to kick Trayvon's ass, he wouldn't be in this situation right now.
Here's where I have a problem. Learning hand to hand training is good, but it should never been seen as a substitution for your pistol. There's no such thing as a non-lethal fight, only fights that don't get to that point. If you want to learn MMA, do so with the intention of protecting yourself long enough to get to your gun.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 06:52 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can call me Michael at July 14, 2013 06:52 PM (vVMIQ)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 14, 2013 06:53 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 14, 2013 06:53 PM (eMPxS)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 06:54 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:54 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Things at July 14, 2013 06:54 PM (GmTxn)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 14, 2013 06:54 PM (JMmQ9)
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North American Arms makes a teeny little 22 revolver like that.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 06:55 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 10:50 PM (qRWdI)
GFY yoshi. Better?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 14, 2013 06:55 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at July 14, 2013 06:55 PM (1wI7y)
Posted by: Arbalest at July 14, 2013 06:56 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 14, 2013 06:56 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: speedster1 at July 14, 2013 06:56 PM (yeM7r)
Gonna play the National Anthem, sign off, and go to bed.
(Remember back when radio and TV stations actually signed off? And played the Star Spangled Banner before doing so? Yep. Startin' to be one of those old farts that I always . . . actually . . . rather looked up to in my youth. I was weird.)
Posted by: filbert at July 14, 2013 06:56 PM (7vimm)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 14, 2013 06:56 PM (w0R1b)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 14, 2013 10:29 PM (aH+zP)
Bloody hell. I would have stiffed you for just suggesting those charlatans. I have never spent so much time and effort trying to get those dirtbags to pay what they owe with any other insurance I have had.
She should have sued you just for suggesting them.
Otherwise, yes, she was a stupid git.
Posted by: tcn at July 14, 2013 06:56 PM (RnmNY)
Also, a tough training course should be mandatory for anyone who wishes to carry concealed, and that course should include a Tueller drill.
Only a few CCWs seem to understand how an assailant making a fast sprint from a short distance will get them before they can clear leather. And how BIG the circle of danger really is.
(TM didn't do this to GZ, but could easily have done so. GZ lost situational awareness, failed to check six and didn't have his hand on his pistol. In that circumstance, a Tueller type assault will almost always work. Most criminal assailants won't bother to ask an opening question, the way TM did, before they hit you. They'll just hit you for starters without saying a thing. From behind if they can.)
This is why it's important to agitate not only for concealed carry rights, but for open carry rights. There are plenty of perps who will happily attempt a prison-yard-rush on a woman walking across a parking lot with her car keys but no weapon in sight. Same woman with car keys in one hand and a pistol visible in the other? Eh, not so much.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 14, 2013 06:57 PM (gqT4g)
CA protesters break windows, start fires
http://t.co/dxgwm2dsPd
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 14, 2013 10:33 PM
Caution: Infowars link, and it's Oakland, they protest and riot over a disputed parking space
Posted by: kbdabear at July 14, 2013 06:57 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 06:58 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 06:58 PM (qRWdI)
Since this is the road you want to go down. Tell me the percentage of people that are casing a place to rob turn around and confront a possible witness? There was no reason for a neighborhood watch guy to think this scenario was likely. He had already called 911 and the police were on the way he wasn't thinking I'm gonna pin this guy down for the cops. He was likely thinking the more info I have on what house or which way the suspect went that will be helpful.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 06:59 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 06:59 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Cheri at July 14, 2013 06:59 PM (EAgmr)
I played most of the SW games. Never heard a bad word about KOTOR, but never could get into myself. JKII: Jedi Academy was the best. All the X-Wing stuff was good. Favorite now is Lego SW with Jr. We could play that one all day long.
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 06:59 PM (+Wfbd)
It wasn't the action itself that sucked or was annoying, it was the interface.
I stopped early on after so many were difficult to get used to or had story lines that I couldn't get into or interrupted the flow of the game.
Too many game makers (especially early on) seemed to have the idea that the point of the game was to beat the player and make them feel stupid. Whereas I've always felt that a game should be FUN and not a character building exercise. For those who get bored, that's why there's levels of play.
But then I guess I'm uncoordinated. Still it's a bad business decision to piss off the potential buyers of your NEXT game. Which is what happened to me, I stopped buying Star Wars games because LucasArts sucked.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at July 14, 2013 06:59 PM (28TG+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 06:59 PM (GEICT)
"I'd rather have surgery by Dr. Bao" Heh
Posted by: Wanda Jean ( always clean ) at July 14, 2013 07:00 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at July 14, 2013 10:34 PM (28TG+)
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I find this wide of the mark. It doesn't explain the foreign cheaters that get into grad programs and the related push for H1 visa expansion. Working in the oil patch is dangerous and dirty and not sure too many illegals want to brave a North Dakota winter either.
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 14, 2013 07:00 PM (jk6Z/)
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 07:00 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Things at July 14, 2013 07:01 PM (GmTxn)
Posted by: Prez'nit Melonflaps at July 14, 2013 07:01 PM (uLzrM)
Next time this country is hit with a crisis where we need real brains and balls, we're shit outta luck
Posted by: kbdabear at July 14, 2013 07:01 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 14, 2013 07:01 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:02 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Tuna at July 14, 2013 07:03 PM (M/TDA)
In a sudden situation not faced before, why doesn't anybody admit they're saying "why didn't the queen grow balls so she could be the king"
Posted by: kbdabear at July 14, 2013 07:03 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:03 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:03 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:03 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: UWP at July 14, 2013 07:04 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 14, 2013 07:04 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:04 PM (GEICT)
Trayvon Martin demonstration moves into Times Square in New York
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 14, 2013 07:04 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at July 14, 2013 07:05 PM (1wI7y)
Posted by: Drunk Moron at July 14, 2013 07:05 PM (dKV5k)
Back in the 80s I was working at a game company called Cinemaware. Disney was going all over trying to get a company to produce a Roger Rabbit game in a ridiculously short time frame of a few months. (Although one of my co-workers, Peter Kaminski, had pulled a rabbit out of a hat by doing a pretty good C64 Aliens game for Activision in a remarkably short time but that was a much simpler project in another era.) Disney had no concept of what went into a game, especially something that was going to do justice to the movie in question.
After every company worth mentioning turned them down, Disney started its own Buena Vista Games operation. The game didn't ship until over a year after the movie came out and was horribly unplayable. It was a nice demo of what the Amiga could do but everything you did resulted in a glacially slow loading period. It was impossible to get the hang of the gameplay because you could die within seconds of gaining any input control and then wait so long you never had any reflexes acquired.
That was an extreme case but in general the problem of doing a good movie tie-in is the lack of the game devs having any chance to do something interesting rather than just replaying the movie.
It's a bit better with a TV show like Spongebob Squarepants. There have been several good games based on that show.
Posted by: epobirs at July 14, 2013 07:05 PM (kcfmt)
BREAKING: Trayvon Martin Protesters Throwing Rocks, Bottles At Police In Los Angles, LAPD Firing Rubber Bullets Back
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 14, 2013 07:05 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: kbdabear at July 14, 2013 07:05 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 14, 2013 07:05 PM (aH+zP)
It started with a virtual-reality image of the player's avatar as a 67 year old, that this would help us plan better for retirement.
But then it went to eating vegetarian... using recycled paper products instead of absorbent toilet paper... and those are just what I remember.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 14, 2013 07:05 PM (d7tB2)
As a 6'4" 275lb former college athlete, not many people would be able to defend themselves against me
sam colt disagrees
Posted by: navycopjoe at July 14, 2013 07:05 PM (9GTN3)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:05 PM (Pb0zF)
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No. No.
It's all good.
This is better than watching the neighbors with binoculars. Er, so I've heard.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 07:06 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 07:06 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at July 14, 2013 07:06 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:07 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:07 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Cheri at July 14, 2013 07:07 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 07:07 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:07 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:08 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 14, 2013 07:08 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:08 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 14, 2013 07:09 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: NCKate at July 14, 2013 07:09 PM (FSbfx)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:09 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:09 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:10 PM (qRWdI)
Go shoot some matches. You'll be horrified at what you can't hit.
Then work to get better.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 07:10 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:11 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:11 PM (GEICT)
Seriously. "Why didn't GZ kick him in the head? Or hit him with his gun? Why did he have to shoot him?" are actual things I saw posted to Twitter today.
I honestly think the majority who wanted Zimmerman convicted know the truth and, in their hearts, know GZ was within his rights to shoot TM, but they just don't care. They've been told what to believe, and by god, they're gonna run with it to the bitter end.
Posted by: holygoat at July 14, 2013 07:11 PM (IGIFh)
Drs. Bao and Rao are wasting their talents, such as they are, as medical examiners.
They both need to go get credentialed as veterinarians, and open the Bao-Rao Canine Hospital.
Then all they would need would be people willing to pay the two of them money to practice medicine on those people's dogs.
Whoops. I knew there was a flaw in the plan somewhere.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 14, 2013 07:11 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Cheri at July 14, 2013 07:11 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 14, 2013 07:12 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 14, 2013 07:12 PM (d7tB2)
and that ain't where you find the majority of illegals.
The H1 stuff is big business wanting smart but cheap labor but they can't get that from the illegals, they have to beg congress to allow them to ignore american citizens supposedly because they can't find the qualifications necessary here. Which is also bullshit and is driven by cost. Even the H1's get intimidated because if they lose the job they have to go home.
So I don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at July 14, 2013 07:13 PM (28TG+)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 11:09 PM (Pb0zF)
Hanging slightly below waist level, baby.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 07:13 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 14, 2013 07:13 PM (mCNwt)
I have a KelTec P3AT. One day I watched my little brother hit a man-sized silhouette target with it. At 100 yards. Four times. Wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen it.
But yeah, I know what you mean.
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 07:13 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Things at July 14, 2013 07:14 PM (GmTxn)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:15 PM (Pb0zF)
I'm hung like a jury bitch.
Posted by: Gannicus at July 14, 2013 07:15 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:15 PM (GEICT)
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Yeah. That and budget squeeze because DoJ promotional finances directed to Florida.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 14, 2013 07:16 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: UWP at July 14, 2013 11:04 PM (r98SZ)
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Ha. no, the gate was broken and open. Fenced in places is more like it...sorta like our southern border
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 14, 2013 07:16 PM (jk6Z/)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 11:15 PM (Pb0zF)
3
One of these days we have to video chat.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 07:16 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 11:07 PM (+Wfbd)
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Yeah, loved it. The further you got into the game, the faster the AT-Ats would move. What a pain in the ass.
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 14, 2013 07:16 PM (lxc0s)
Or as we used to say; "if the dog had caught the rabbit . . . "
Does the NFL have a draft for Monday Morning Quarterbacks?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at July 14, 2013 07:16 PM (28TG+)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at July 14, 2013 07:16 PM (9bMee)
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 07:16 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Cheri at July 14, 2013 07:17 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:17 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 14, 2013 07:17 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 14, 2013 07:17 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2013 07:17 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Thrawn at July 14, 2013 07:17 PM (KiyII)
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Well, in this part of the country, high water has made white-water canoeing very high risk., so come on over.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 14, 2013 07:17 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: AltonJackson
There's nothing I detest more here at the ol' HQ than piling on, but...
YOU CHUCKLEHEAD!
Posted by: Soothsayer, a.k.a. hose-b at July 14, 2013 07:17 PM (LPRBM)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:18 PM (Pb0zF)
But yeah, I know what you mean.
Posted by: Bomber
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This is encouraging to me. When I mentioned shooting matches, I was thinking of my own poor performance in matches with a full size Glock 21. And no reflection of the gun.
I am actually thinking about a .380 for pocket carry, so your anecdote here is welcome. I also carry a G30SF but it's a little bulky for dress slacks, even IWB.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 07:18 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 07:18 PM (dKV5k)
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It's like feeding the bears.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 14, 2013 07:18 PM (aDwsi)
NYPD GEARING UP, REQUESTING BACKUP AND ARREST WAGONS FORTHWITH! LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE STORMING TIMES SQUARE
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 14, 2013 07:19 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Cheri at July 14, 2013 07:19 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: NCKate at July 14, 2013 07:19 PM (FSbfx)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 14, 2013 07:19 PM (eMPxS)
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 07:20 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Cowboy at July 14, 2013 07:20 PM (FMrA0)
Posted by: One Square of Tiolet Paper at July 14, 2013 07:20 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Big Ben at July 14, 2013 07:20 PM (I5Htn)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 07:21 PM (IxRjw)
He was there as a guest of his father's new squeeze, who lives in said community.
Although procedures may vary from gated community to gated community.
I have been to one such community where being a guest at someone's house allowed me untrammeled passage. They gave me a gate code and nobody would say me nay. At another such community, I was told that as a guest I had to check in and out with the security staff every time I came and went, even if I had the code. And they enforced that.
However, even if Tray-demark had been unauthorized to be on the grounds, it would have been trivial for him to get in and out of that place. Their physical security arrangements were laughable. I think these fast-buck residential tract developers just stick a gate in front as a cheap way of charging a higher price for the units they sell to suckers, because it's "exclusive".
Posted by: torquewrench at July 14, 2013 07:21 PM (gqT4g)
This is the reason I put out the barrel, in the first place -- punishment for dunces.
Alton Jackson, go directly to The Barrel.
Do not pass Go.
Do not collect bottle of Valu Rite Vodka.
Posted by: Soothsayer, a.k.a. hose-b at July 14, 2013 07:21 PM (39q3n)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:21 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at July 14, 2013 07:21 PM (9bMee)
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Pay-per-view, or it didn't happen.
And I WOULD pay.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 07:22 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Some Rioter at July 14, 2013 07:22 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 07:23 PM (IxRjw)
I tend to carry in places I don't want anybody to know I'm carrying. Pocket carry is the way to go.
Although lately I'm carrying a Beretta 92. Sometimes IWB, usually OWB. We get to open carry around here.
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 07:23 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 11:20 PM (dKV5k)
I was thinking the same damn thing.
Posted by: Berserker at July 14, 2013 07:23 PM (FMbng)
I need to find a city which has a best buy, foot locker, and a guitar center on the same block
riots would be so convienent
Posted by: navycopjoe at July 14, 2013 07:23 PM (9GTN3)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:23 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2013 07:24 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at July 14, 2013 07:24 PM (1wI7y)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:24 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: 18-1
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Logic would say worse..., but I am uncertain that logic applies anymore.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 14, 2013 07:25 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:25 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2013 07:25 PM (zPVBH)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 14, 2013 07:25 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Ed Anger at July 14, 2013 07:25 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Tuna at July 14, 2013 07:25 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:25 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 07:27 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 07:27 PM (IxRjw)
342 330 An AC-130 would clear the freeways in one pass.
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 11:20 PM (dKV5k)
so would a USMC Rifle company
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Why not make it really interesting? Use a MICLIC, or two
Posted by: fastfreefall at July 14, 2013 07:27 PM (Rw8tn)
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 07:27 PM (+Wfbd)
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Yes. But that is a solid voting bloc already. There may be some possibility of alienating some of those via riots.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 14, 2013 07:27 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 07:27 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2013 07:27 PM (zPVBH)
Anyone ever play the Farscape vid game?
I was interested but then I kept reading lousy reviews.
From what I gleened, a lot of times these video games just plug in the characters and motif (from Star Trek, Farscape, Star Wars, any tv show, movie, etc.) and have the player run around and shoot stuff, adding very little/no 'story' in the game.
Posted by: Soothsayer, a.k.a. hose-b at July 14, 2013 07:28 PM (BUcLz)
I say worse
when he said 'if I had a son, he would look like Trayvon', he took a side. That side is now throwing rocks and bottles at cops in LA and NYC, burning American flags in Oakland, and sending death threats to George Zimmerman on the internet
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 14, 2013 07:28 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:28 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:29 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:29 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:30 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:30 PM (GEICT)
Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11)
I was responding to this: "The insistent drive to have goods and services at the lowest cost is what drives the entire buggy." That drives Walmart's sales not this current immigration push.
After the current legislation fails (and even if had passed), the Dems have the 2014 season for their new and improved racism campaign...helped by the GOP. The status quo is fine with the current political leadership.
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 14, 2013 07:30 PM (jk6Z/)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:30 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at July 14, 2013 07:31 PM (9bMee)
Posted by: ET at July 14, 2013 07:31 PM (YpjaN)
I really do. Posted by: Yoshi
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This is a rhetorical question, right?
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 07:32 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 07:32 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:32 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 14, 2013 07:32 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: NayBack at July 14, 2013 07:33 PM (FmWKc)
Posted by: UWP at July 14, 2013 07:33 PM (r98SZ)
Knew a guy who lived on a rural place in the San Bernardino mountains. One of those rare types whose family had been in SoCal since God was a pup, before the long boom started, who had watched the whole huge ugly insane sprawl-o-plex morass grow from nothing.
He was traveling when the L.A. riots broke out. He is still pissed that he "missed" them.
I said, "WTF? What'd you 'miss', taking a brick to the head?"
To understand his response, you have to realize that this guy loathes Los Angeles urban libtards with the same intensity with which a sheep farmer loathes coyotes.
He said that what he would have loved to do would have been to stack the bed of his ratty old farm truck with road flares, thirty jerricans full of gasoline and his dirt bike, and drive it down into one of the libtardiest parts of L.A. like Santa Monica.
Where he would park and abandon the truck, and hop on the dirt bike, and ride home as fast as he could. Did I mention this guy hates L.A. liberals? He hates L.A. liberals in a big way.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 14, 2013 07:33 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 07:34 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 14, 2013 11:28 PM (8sCoq)
He's a piece of shit community agitator. Thats all he knows.
Posted by: Berserker at July 14, 2013 07:34 PM (FMbng)
they would disown all their previous comments, claim to be 'just asking questions', make phony appeals to reason, etc
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 14, 2013 07:34 PM (8sCoq)
holy shit
T just walked in and she is holding a box of twinkies
I now remember why I married her!!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at July 14, 2013 07:34 PM (9GTN3)
Posted by: Bomber
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Window
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 14, 2013 07:35 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:35 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:35 PM (qRWdI)
I begged them to boycott Colorado! Please liberals stay away from here!
Of course that would empty out Bolder and half of Denver but we'll survive.
Liberal logic is an oxymoron.
Posted by: Cheri at July 14, 2013 07:35 PM (EAgmr)
You know, growing up in rural South Arkansas in the late 70s and 80s, I remember hearing that whole "back to Africa" suggestion fairly often.
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 07:35 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: RiverC at July 14, 2013 07:35 PM (KTytI)
Posted by: Moron with a Raging Boner>>
Maybe this will do you in. Think of Susan Flechette standing in the crowd.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 07:37 PM (qo244)
If they had a design, I would bid - hourly or by the job - but I would never write out the specs for free... and never analyze databases, etc. fucking freeloaders.. let them get the fucking Indian and Pakistanis who you can't understand one sentence of their "English" do that shit.. yeah.. right.
This country has taken a turn South permanently and it ain't coming back... and we are about to lay out the red carpet for millions of suckers to take even more of our jobs - legally.
Can you tell I'm bitter? The booze don't help...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 14, 2013 07:38 PM (UTq/I)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 07:38 PM (IxRjw)
Ok,
Chiming in late here to say bullshit on the newest obamacare screw job. That's not even that hard of a computer bit to program in, I mean good lord, I know very little programming and I could probably mock up something to do it.
No, this is more generational theft for the purposes of vote buying. Of course I blame my fucking generation which seems to live it some democrat dick up its ass.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 07:38 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 14, 2013 07:38 PM (UTq/I)
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 07:38 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 14, 2013 07:38 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Cowboy at July 14, 2013 07:38 PM (FMrA0)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: CarolT at July 14, 2013 07:40 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:41 PM (qRWdI)
The awful truth is that the Left is 10x happier than we are over the not guilty verdict. The Left wants to use Trayvon's corpse (just like they use Rachel Corrie's flattened body) as a political device.
The protesters? They're laughing! They're chanting "justice for Trayvon" while they're smiling, waving, dancing, and laughing. It's a g-d party for those subhumans. (I saw it on TV, today.)
Don't think for a minute the Left is genuinely upset. When Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson, and the black race hustlers behind the pulpit pretending to be ministers heard the verdict, they were thrilled.
It's all PBS. Political Bullshit Theater. A Not Guilty verdict gives them more reason to continue the play, ramp up the theatrics, and squeeze even more political value from the corpse of a black teenager. In that sense, I do feel sorry for Trayvon Martin as he is being shamelessly used by people who give not a care in the world about him, dead or alive.
Posted by: Soothsayer, a.k.a. hose-b at July 14, 2013 07:41 PM (39q3n)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 14, 2013 07:41 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:41 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2013 07:42 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 07:43 PM (IxRjw)
The prosecution had a theory? I must have missed that part.
What the prosecution did do was to call Jane Surdyka as a witness.
She is the utter nutjob who claimed that she saw and heard GZ shoot TM in the back, three times, even though that was totally contradicted by every last particle of the forensic evidence.
It was a huge mistake for the prosecution ever to put her on the stand. Thank goodness they did. Her disconnected-from-Earthly-reality account was probably the first juncture at which the jurors began to ask themselves, "Wait a minute, this couldn't possibly have gone down the way it's being claimed, what *did* happen?"
Posted by: torquewrench at July 14, 2013 07:43 PM (gqT4g)
I miss my Road boys being little Road boys. They are now 6'3 and 6', and his year is young.
If you ask them, they miss being little Road boys.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 07:43 PM (4Mv1T)
I don't think the suggestion then was for the benefit of Africa.
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 07:44 PM (+Wfbd)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at July 14, 2013 07:44 PM (9bMee)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:44 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:44 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 14, 2013 07:45 PM (zPVBH)
I am glad you asked. I had almost forgot. Too much drama at the Road house these days. They have a IDPA practice night this Friday night. Think I'll sign up.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 07:46 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:46 PM (Pb0zF)
I think their theory was, 11-yr old Trayvon Martin was on his way home from Bible study and wanted only to buy some Skittles before home. At this same time, a blood-thirsty half man, half ogre named George Zimmerman was hunting for a young human being to shoot kill and eat.
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 14, 2013 07:47 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: CDR M at July 14, 2013 11:38 PM (dKV5k)
Heh, I had to get the context for that because it's true of I64 here too
.
(but I still call it 40, screw all of you.)
Fun thing my word flow wanted that tot be "screw all of government" it knows me so well.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 07:47 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 14, 2013 07:48 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 07:48 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 07:48 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: Arbalest at July 14, 2013 07:49 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: bob_oso at July 14, 2013 07:49 PM (kiwMG)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 14, 2013 07:50 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 07:50 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:51 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:52 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:53 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 07:54 PM (Jv4FA)
good fun>>
When my girls were little they used to love something like that we would play in the lake. I would squat under the water with their feet on my shoulders and throw them as high as I could. Man it was tiring but worth it.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 07:54 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 11:46 PM (4Mv1T)
just do it Posted by: Jake in ID
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I plan to. The only thing that was stalling me last time is I didn't have the prescribed number of mags for my new pea shooter. Now that I have those I have no excuse, besides it has been drippingly hot, and they run some "office building scenarios" that looked odd to me. I don't work in an office building, but if it improves my shots under stress, it's all good.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 07:54 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:54 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 07:55 PM (IxRjw)
Apparently, the FBI report makes it really hard to proceed.
Among the revelations found in nearly 300 pages of records:
• An ex-girlfriend said Zimmerman had outbursts and sometimes threatened suicide. She suspected it was a result of Accutane, the acne medicine he took. She said he was the “last person in the world” she thought would be involved in such an incident.
• The ex girlfriend said she and Zimmerman had a violent argument when she caught him on a singles dating web site, even though they were engaged to be married.
Good stuff for a civil rights case, ya think ???
Posted by: Billy Jean King at July 14, 2013 07:55 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 07:55 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: RWC at July 14, 2013 07:56 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 14, 2013 11:38 PM (UTq/I)
****
want a beer? I'm grabbing one from the fridge.
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 14, 2013 07:56 PM (jk6Z/)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 14, 2013 07:56 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 07:57 PM (Pb0zF)
Huzzah, cards hang on to first place and beat the cubs.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 07:57 PM (GaqMa)
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FIFY
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 14, 2013 07:57 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 07:59 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 11:59 PM (Pb0zF)
Well my wife is on a business leadership training retreat thing for the next few days.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 08:00 PM (GaqMa)
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*light bulb finally lights up in TR's head*
This is all that he is, isn't it?
He is a one trick pony. It is what he can do, and all he can do.
He can't debate, he can't rule, can't comfort parents of dead servicemen. He can only agitate.
His pastor taught him so well.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 08:00 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: UWP at July 14, 2013 08:00 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 14, 2013 08:01 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 14, 2013 08:01 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 08:01 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: Bomber at July 14, 2013 08:03 PM (+Wfbd)
Kinda not the same but we recently were shown this safety video at work. Yes we have the No Guns allowed signs so they tell us to “Run. Hide. Fight”.
http://tinyurl.com/bn2jpna
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 08:07 PM (qo244)
Skipped to the end. Didn't read the comments. Give me a summary, please.
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Uhh..
Spiders.
Ettes' who like 'em.
6'5" skandi husband who will kick Hordes' ass if necessary.
Trayvon.
Zimerman.
Trayvon.
Zimerman.
Repeat.
Repeat.
Guns.
Cheri is not Raykon.
Bacon.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 08:08 PM (4Mv1T)
444 McClatchy is reporting that the FBI saw Zimmerman as “having little hero complex, but not as a racist.”
Apparently, the FBI report makes it really hard to proceed.
Yeah and the original police reports made it really hard for the state to proceed with a murder charge.
Posted by: buzzion at July 14, 2013 08:09 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 08:11 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 14, 2013 08:11 PM (yoh1c)
You skipped the 2 ettes that were going to reenact the Travon straddling GZ with a pool and whipped cream added over time.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 08:12 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:12 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: RWC at July 14, 2013 08:12 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: McGregor
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Artistic license, doncha know.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 14, 2013 08:13 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:13 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 08:13 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 14, 2013 08:13 PM (xvZYu)
Posted by: buzzion at July 15, 2013 12:09 AM (LI48c)
Martin family attorney on cnn wouldn't rule out a civil suite.
I assume immunity should be reasonable for Z to get hopefully.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 08:14 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: LA Co. Sher'fs [/i] [/b] at July 14, 2013 08:15 PM (xvZYu)
Posted by: ghost of... at July 14, 2013 08:16 PM (/BwGa)
Posted by: Janet Reno at July 14, 2013 08:17 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 14, 2013 08:17 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 14, 2013 08:17 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: mindful webworker, practicing safe commenting at July 14, 2013 08:18 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 15, 2013 12:12 AM (Pb0zF)
The roses are my job every day. But the wife did help do this: http://sdrv.ms/10VB5is
Except between the trees every other bed is a new addition.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 08:18 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:18 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 14, 2013 08:19 PM (qRWdI)
Posted by: ghost of... at July 14, 2013 08:19 PM (JCIjD)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 14, 2013 08:19 PM (7RkkA)
you gotta check every cubicle.
Posted by: Jake in ID
Just burn it down. Posted by: LA Co. Sher'fs>>
You learned that from me.
Posted by: Janet Reno at July 14, 2013 08:19 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:20 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 14, 2013 08:21 PM (xvZYu)
Posted by: Janet Reno at July 14, 2013 08:21 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:21 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:22 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 08:23 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 14, 2013 08:24 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:24 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: barbarausa at July 14, 2013 08:25 PM (WWeoI)
(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force Â…
Apparently, the Martin family lost the ability to sue George Zimmerman when he was found to have used “justifiable use of force” in regard to Trayvon Martin, at least at the state level.
Posted by: Sum Tim Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk and Bang Ding Ow at July 14, 2013 08:25 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Low Information Voter at July 14, 2013 08:25 PM (uLzrM)
Which is why I hang out here cause real life sucks.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 08:26 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:26 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:27 PM (Pb0zF)
/you can't argue with Nuclear Stupid
Posted by: shibumi at July 14, 2013 08:28 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 08:28 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 14, 2013 08:29 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 14, 2013 08:29 PM (7RkkA)
I don't get on here to comment as much as I should. I talk to AoSHQ'ers more on Twitter than here, it seems. Everytime I want to reply to a thread it's three posts down. Hah.
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at July 14, 2013 08:30 PM (kgtGX)
@tammy sans Thor
Here: http://t.co/49aRFqB8N4
I'd note that's project 2 of 3 for the summer. Last is putting in a French drain in the side yard but we're trying to figure out how to do that.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 08:30 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:30 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2013 08:30 PM (CMlD4)
Lost my Mom this year and we are all are plus 50 doesn't make it any easier. Prayers for your nieces.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 08:32 PM (qo244)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 14, 2013 08:32 PM (7RkkA)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 14, 2013 08:32 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 14, 2013 08:33 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:33 PM (Pb0zF)
I heard fireworks last night and got freaked, thought it was gunshots at first.
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at July 14, 2013 08:33 PM (kgtGX)
In the midst of life we are in death.
So sorry to hear it. At least it sounds like he saw all of his kids off to a good start in adult life, which is what most parents I know say is what matters most to them.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 14, 2013 08:34 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at July 14, 2013 08:35 PM (kgtGX)
And run their hands slowly up and down my sides and moan.....you know how they do that thing where they're feeling your curves? Sigh....
I was NOT meant to sleep alone, I can tell you that right now. Son of a bitch.
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:37 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 08:37 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 14, 2013 08:37 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 15, 2013 12:33 AM (Pb0zF)
The principle seems easy enough, dig trench, add some rock, put in a pipe, add much more rock, cover with some dirt.
The issue is getting the slope right, and that's where we're stuck. It's a fairly flat area, hence the problem.
The mulch in fact was a way to solve some drainage problems in the back yard (water against the basement) without re-grading.
We want to put a patio in next to the deck when the money starts flowing again. Oh, but I get to grow hops next to the garage there! (that's also bbq zone.)
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 08:39 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 14, 2013 08:39 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 08:39 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:40 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 08:40 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 14, 2013 08:40 PM (7RkkA)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 15, 2013 12:37 AM (Pb0zF)
Clearly I've missed something.....
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 08:40 PM (GaqMa)
You remind me a lot of a former friend of mine. Similar personality. You're much cooler, though.
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at July 14, 2013 08:41 PM (kgtGX)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 14, 2013 08:41 PM (XIxXP)
I hope you are helping Anna Puma with her book cause that is the kind of writing I want to read.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 08:41 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 08:41 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: RWC at July 14, 2013 08:41 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 08:42 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: ghost of... at July 14, 2013 08:42 PM (tWrwm)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:42 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 14, 2013 08:43 PM (7RkkA)
@Crazee
Congrats!
Too many people I know having kids, (or spouses having kids I guess).
And I'm not one of them.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 08:43 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 08:45 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 14, 2013 08:45 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 15, 2013 12:20 AM (Pb0zF)
You see, this is an example of the sort of thing I *never* hear in real life.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 15, 2013 12:24 AM (yoh1c)
Spend a night with 2 chicks who work as a tag team and you will hear much worse. Much....worse.
Posted by: Berserker at July 14, 2013 08:46 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 15, 2013 12:42 AM (Pb0zF)
I homebrew so it pays for itself quickly.
Our local homebrew store sells the rhizome for like $4.
They say cascades will grow anywhere with sun. I'm sure there's a hop for your region. If we can grow them in the STL summer soup, you can grow them anywhere.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 08:47 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 14, 2013 08:47 PM (5J54Q)
Jake, we're looking at early October. Obviously, it's never written in stone though. I'm so nervous. I'm already getting the room setup, and it's so surreal. A couple years ago, I never would have seen this coming.
Btw, you know what's hot? My fiance hates TFG more than I do.
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at July 14, 2013 08:47 PM (kgtGX)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 14, 2013 08:50 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at July 15, 2013 12:47 AM (kgtGX)
Hey, Illinois does suck, but MO has a veto proof republican majority in the house and senate, is reasonably low tax and is floating a proposal to drop even lower.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 08:50 PM (GaqMa)
A tight string and a string level. Level the string and measure down from it. Lots of ways to do it but hanging lengths of string from that level string that represent the drain slope you want is a great way to know you are doing it right and if you have kids they can get involved.
If the problem is it doesn't drop enough pierced drain tile and an out flow at the end.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 08:51 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 15, 2013 12:50 AM (5J54Q)
Brother, we all fall for really weird women at some point in our lives.
Thanks, man.
Anyways, I think I'm headed to bed too. I wanted to check in here to see Tammy since she's never on twitter. Maybe I'll actually check into the ONT earlier tomorrow. I need to work at 6 am. Later, folks. Obama's a SCOAMF
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at July 14, 2013 08:55 PM (kgtGX)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 08:55 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 15, 2013 12:50 AM (GaqMa)
And MO's right next door, so I can visit my mom and other family anytime. Hmmmm. Thanks man, that sounds good. I don't know why I didn't think of that before...
Anyways, later guys.
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at July 14, 2013 08:57 PM (kgtGX)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 14, 2013 08:58 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: McGregor at July 15, 2013 12:51 AM (qo244)
Thanks,
Problem is if I put the drain down 2 feet, I don't know where it'll come out, being flat and all that.
This used to be the drainage swail, but the previous owner let a tree grow in it and its all fucked up now.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 08:59 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 15, 2013 12:55 AM (IxRjw)
Yeah, first one.
I guess I need to talk to the future misses...and I'm failing miserably at logging off.
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at July 14, 2013 08:59 PM (kgtGX)
Ok horde,
I gotta go, wife might be gone, but I have stuff to do tomorrow like work on my comps paper.
Plus the battery in the surface is dying.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 14, 2013 09:02 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Jake in ID at July 14, 2013 09:03 PM (IxRjw)
Posted by: angel with a sword at July 14, 2013 09:07 PM (EO34X)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 14, 2013 09:08 PM (l3vZN)
Problem is if I put the drain down 2 feet, I don't know where it'll come out, being flat and all that.>>
If you use perforated drain tile (which isn't tile it's plastic tubing) you can bury that just subsurface or a ground gutter. Then run it to a lower area with non perforated tile to a low area out flow. or a larger section of buried perforated tile away from the house.
Ground gutter http://tinyurl.com/oaw5n7b Not best example for your application but yo should get the idea
I have the same problem just haven't installed yet.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 09:13 PM (qo244)
Anna Benson, the hot ‘Baseball Wives’ star, once implicated in a murder
http://tinyurl.com/ng2gxl2
Warning ... Sexpot Anna has lost a bit of her looks
Posted by: kbdabear at July 14, 2013 09:20 PM (/9IC1)
Zimmerman was right to follow Trayvon, the fucking thug. And he was right to call the police and he was right to shoot Trayvon, the thug, when Trayvon, the fucking thug, was atetmpting to use his own weapon against him. This trial was never about an unjust shoot. This was always about using a justified shoot as a tool to gin up support for an unjust Pesidential campaign. This is worse than race baiting and using race baiting as a tool to acheive racial equality. this was never about anything more cynical than gathering votes for the evil Obama Tyrannis Rex. Fuck Obama.
Fuck the fucking fuck-out of Obama.
Posted by: Jeffersonian at July 14, 2013 09:22 PM (60WUU)
It cost me more than that in tow charges to move my car less than 3 miles using a towing service.
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 09:23 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Andy at July 14, 2013 09:25 PM (li+aS)
Meth is a bitch (or drug addiction in general).
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 09:25 PM (qo244)
Posted by: McGregor at July 14, 2013 09:34 PM (qo244)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 14, 2013 09:39 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: McGregor at July 15, 2013 01:13 AM (qo244)
It's in the side yard being the problem, and it's the lowest area between the houses, I'm tempted to run it to the sidewalk and just bury it there.
I may also just do what they did with the gutter extenders and bury it about 6 inches down and just open a whole at the end of the yard (again near the side walk) if the water flow gets large enough it shoots out and if not, it just sits there and swamps up, but at least it's not in my basement.
Posted by: tsrblke at July 14, 2013 09:42 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: RWC at July 14, 2013 09:44 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 09:46 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: BignJames at July 14, 2013 09:48 PM (20Mmk)
Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2013 09:49 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 14, 2013 09:50 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 14, 2013 09:52 PM (Vk2pI)
I don't know what the policy at your workplace is like, but if I had to deal with this, I would either take a few sick days or invent a dead relative to get some immediate time off.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 14, 2013 09:54 PM (7B7jB)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 09:57 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: RWC at July 14, 2013 09:57 PM (8FeS+)
I'm going to growing try hops along our barn, but am not sure about the heat down here. Beer aside, it's a beautiful vine.
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 15, 2013 12:42 AM (Pb0zF)
We've got a couple of hops planted over an arch. On the sunnier side, it's starting to get rambunctious and even goes off and jumps the bamboo (!), while on the shadier side it's taken it a couple of years to get really rolling.
You have to thoroughly clean them up every year 'cause they die back to the ground. Each year, the area where shoots come up gets bigger. And the 8' middle shoots from last year that were 5' the year before will be 12' shoots this year.
They are seriously outrageous feeders and you can put little 1" "hills" of fertilizer just outside the last shoots.
You only want to keep female plants, or it'll become a fragrant version of kudzu -- they produce seeds in the gazillions. They're normally propagated by root cuttings, so they're all clones. I'm fond of the "Cascade" clone, myself -- it's flowery and spicy with a citrus-like tone.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 09:58 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2013 10:02 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2013 10:05 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 14, 2013 10:09 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 10:12 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2013 10:13 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Sinalco at July 14, 2013 10:14 PM (zDJDu)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 14, 2013 10:15 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2013 10:17 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2013 10:19 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2013 10:23 PM (CMlD4)
something has been nagging at me for a couple days, and I think I may have figgered it out. I have long been pissed that the media gets away with telling a lot of dumbasses what to think. But I knew that.
What I hadn't figgered out that was bugging me is that the media gets away with telling almost everyone What to think About. There is only one murder trial at a time and everyone has to think about it. There is only one missing girl at a time, etc, etc, etc.
Even people that think the media is completely fulla shit have an opinion about the subject the media told them they have to have an opinion about. Fuck. This is just ridiculous. The longer I live the more I despise those fucking jerks. I don't even know how that is still possible. I thought my despise meter was already pegged. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuckity fuck fuck.
Posted by: jc at July 14, 2013 10:30 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: The #NoJustice Hat at July 14, 2013 10:31 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: The #NoJustice Hat at July 14, 2013 10:32 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Jean at July 15, 2013 02:19 AM (CMlD4)
Of course not. They can never let facts get in the way of their narrative. They can't even talk about how it was Trayvon that was responsible for the confrontation that led to his death. You don't think they're going to let anything out that doesn't portray him as some innocent kid that just wanted skittles for the night.
Posted by: buzzion at July 14, 2013 10:32 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 15, 2013 01:52 AM (Vk2pI)
don't be so loud, slapweasel will call all anime fans pedophiles again
Posted by: The Dude at July 14, 2013 10:38 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: The Dude at July 14, 2013 10:39 PM (vJdyz)
https://twitter.com/tawn_suxx1/status/356651281579921408
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 15, 2013 02:09 AM (Vk2pI)
Y'know, someone needs to do a blog post in one place showing all the shit that was trying to be shoved down the public's throat by virtue of Trayvon being dead. Everything from "you can't watch someone in your neighborhood skulk around looking in windows" to "you can't describe someone to the cops as being black -- maybe try 'well-tanned'" to "you can't shoot a guy who is beating the crap out of you in a way that has often resulted in death". A guilty verdict in this would have changed the world we know into a horror. Yeah, it sucks that a guy is dead.....but the wild overzealous ravings from the prosecution to try to avoid a "....but that happens sometimes" predicate were surreal. The last-minute bid for Murder 3, with the underlying felony being "child molestation through perforation with a bullet" was absolutely mind-boggling.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 10:41 PM (T1005)
Posted by: buzzion at July 14, 2013 10:42 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: The #NoJustice Hat (They didn't wan't peace anyway) at July 14, 2013 10:43 PM (Vk2pI)
http://bit.ly/1bBdgAS
Posted by: The #NoJustice Hat at July 15, 2013 02:32 AM (Vk2pI)
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anybody that tries to use the justice system to railroad someone should be face the same penalties as the person they tried to harm. Zimmerman faced life for 2nd Deg, and 30 years for manslaughter. so, that's what the people who lied and doctored evidence to get him should face, too.
Posted by: jc at July 14, 2013 10:43 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: The Executioners Hat at July 14, 2013 10:44 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 15, 2013 02:49 AM (9GG/0)
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poor thread. he was looking so chipper and then .....
Posted by: jc at July 14, 2013 10:51 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: The Fjorn Pining Hat at July 14, 2013 10:52 PM (Vk2pI)
something has been nagging at me for a couple days, and I think I may have figgered it out. I have long been pissed that the media gets away with telling a lot of dumbasses what to think. But I knew that.
What I hadn't figgered out that was bugging me is that the media gets away with telling almost everyone What to think About. There is only one murder trial at a time and everyone has to think about it. There is only one missing girl at a time, etc, etc, etc.
Even people that think the media is completely fulla shit have an opinion about the subject the media told them they have to have an opinion about. Fuck. This is just ridiculous. The longer I live the more I despise those fucking jerks. I don't even know how that is still possible. I thought my despise meter was already pegged. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuckity fuck fuck.
Posted by: jc at July 15, 2013 02:30 AM (PlzOe)
Every blogger has his own piece of this. It's why the powers-that-be so want to be able to say who is a journalist. The problem that they're facing is that the more outrageous the BS on the MSM, the more people (even LIVs) will get their info from more trusted sources....which would be blogs. And THAT means that the MSM will have to go just a bit farther in trying to establish The Narrative.....
It was absolutely unthinkable that they'd be forced into this cycle in the days of Uncle Walter, but they're well along now. Remember Drudge pounding away on the stained blue dress? Remember Breitbart taking over Weiner's press conference? If you look carefully, even those who have the most to gain from incestuous press support are openly showing concern and doubt.
Framing the Narrative begins with choosing the subject. But fighting a rear-guard action on a subject you chose, while things you hoped to ignore (IRS reviews, Fast-and-Furious, etc.) keep bubbling up, is not a sign that you're doing well.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 10:53 PM (T1005)
Posted by: al sharpton at July 14, 2013 10:53 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 15, 2013 02:53 AM (T1005)
And they really hate it when either the public rejects the Narrative, but its even worse when something happens and they don't want to cover it at all but it keeps slipping past them.
Posted by: buzzion at July 14, 2013 10:55 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 14, 2013 10:57 PM (9GG/0)
http://bit.ly/1bBdgAS
Posted by: The #NoJustice Hat at July 15, 2013 02:32 AM (Vk2pI)
Knowing what I know, and that the current market cap of GE (their corporate parent) is $245.68B, I'd award Zimmerman $245.69B -- because they tried to jump out of the bushes, sucker-punch him, ground-and-pound him, and make him dead.....and that makes a bullet, center-mass, appropriate.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 10:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 14, 2013 11:01 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2013 11:02 PM (CMlD4)
http://appshopper.com/games/king-of-dragon-pass
Posted by: The Dude at July 14, 2013 11:02 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: ALH at July 14, 2013 11:03 PM (2LTPq)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 15, 2013 02:53 AM (T1005)
And they really hate it when either the public rejects the Narrative, but its even worse when something happens and they don't want to cover it at all but it keeps slipping past them.
Posted by: buzzion at July 15, 2013 02:55 AM (LI48c)
They're getting both, and plenty of it, lately. And at some critical mass, the struts will fail. It doesn't help that they're staffed by halfwit Journalism majors who keep coming up with obvious crap like "mostly peaceful protests" where stuff is burned down, shot up, crapped-on, destroyed, and people are injured or killed.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 11:04 PM (T1005)
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Not sure where GE is presently in its sale of NBC to Commiecast.
http:// www.reuters.com/article/ 2013/02/12/us-ge-nbc-idUSBRE91B1IM20130212
Posted by: jc at July 14, 2013 11:05 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 15, 2013 03:04 AM (T1005)
Speaking of which, that's where every Moron can help. Wherever possible, toss out a softball like "great news! today's mostly peaceful protest only caused $1M in property damage" at the water-cooler and just mike-drop it. If they come sniffing after you to see if you're in "the family", feel free to echo whatever prog BS you'd like...."I voted for Obama, he's the dreamiest".....but stick to the facts of the quote "NYT said peaceful protest; SF Chronicle said $1M property damage."
It's like that scene in ST -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydXenL7iu0w -- the fun comes later.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 11:12 PM (T1005)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 14, 2013 11:13 PM (9GG/0)
====
Not sure where GE is presently in its sale of NBC to Commiecast.
http:// www.reuters.com/article/ 2013/02/12/us-ge-nbc-idUSBRE91B1IM20130212
Posted by: jc at July 15, 2013 03:05 AM (PlzOe)
Fuck 'em -- take 'em both down.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 11:14 PM (T1005)
Fuck 'em -- take 'em both down.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 15, 2013 03:14 AM (T1005)
====
even better.
Posted by: jc at July 14, 2013 11:16 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: jc at July 14, 2013 11:17 PM (PlzOe)
Fuck 'em -- take 'em both down.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 15, 2013 03:14 AM (T1005)
====
even better.
Posted by: jc at July 15, 2013 03:16 AM (PlzOe)
Let me be abundantly clear on this -- if a company provides a better product at a better price or with better service, their prosperity is their own affair and Godspeed.....but if they use government to quash competitors, secure monopolies, or -- worse yet -- screw over their customers.....then when the government changes they should be ground to dust. GE and Comcast both fit within the latter category.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 11:22 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2013 11:23 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: fastfreefall at July 14, 2013 11:24 PM (Rw8tn)
http://www.gamestop.com/pc/dlc/the-walking-dead-400-days/110489
Posted by: The Dude at July 14, 2013 11:24 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: jc at July 15, 2013 03:17 AM (PlzOe)
Oh, I think we all know that. The real question is, how much did he have to spend on protection to cover his $1.5B theft and who got it?
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 11:26 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Molly K. at July 14, 2013 11:28 PM (epANU)
http://tinyurl.com/ofj2o9j
well actually not really, but hey, close enough for internet standards
Posted by: chemjeff at July 14, 2013 11:31 PM (9GG/0)
speaking of justice --- how the fuck did corzine walk?
Posted by: jc at July 15, 2013 03:17 AM (PlzOe)
Oh, I think we all know that. The real question is, how much did he have to spend on protection to cover his $1.5B theft and who got it?
Posted by: cthulhu at July 15, 2013 03:26 AM (T1005)
We could all borrow a page from Wall Street and virtualize things -- if you need to give $20M to the DNC, $15M to the Obama campaign, $10M to Harry Reid, and $5M to your local D guy in the House of Representatives, in order to steal $1.5B, you could create a fund where anyone could steal increments of $1000 for a 3-1/3% set of political donations and a management fee of 1% -- you don't even have to know your local Representatives' name, the scumbucket.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 11:35 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Shark Cracka! at July 14, 2013 11:37 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 15, 2013 03:35 AM (T1005)
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if sharpton had any fucking brains he'd start riots over this. the payoff would be instant and huge.
Posted by: jc at July 14, 2013 11:37 PM (PlzOe)
You lost me at, "if sharpton had any fucking brains".
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 11:40 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 11:44 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 11:44 PM (Jv4FA)
You lost me at, "if sharpton had any fucking brains".
Posted by: cthulhu at July 15, 2013 03:40 AM (T1005)
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good point. amazing that any of the other "steam controllers" have not recognized where the big paydays will be in the current regime. maybe they know they would be eliminated.
Posted by: jc at July 14, 2013 11:51 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 11:52 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 11:53 PM (Jv4FA)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 14, 2013 11:55 PM (Jv4FA)
...and found this little gem: "'As we swang down the steps and turned to go down the next flight,'' says Dr. Abernathy, ''Jesse Jackson came to the stairs and said, 'Doc!' And Dr. King whirled in anger. He looked up and pointed his finger and said, 'Jesse, it may be that you will carve your own individual niche in society. But don't you bother me.' And Jesse was left with his mouth hanging. And we continued down the stairs.''
On April 4, 1968, Dr. King was assassinated as he stood on the balcony outside his room at the Lorraine Motel in Memphis. The gunshot set off a sequence of events that would drive a wedge between Jesse Jackson and many of Dr. King's followers.
Mr. Jackson was a floor below when the shots rang out; he and several colleagues ran up to the balcony. After the fatally wounded Dr. King was taken to the hospital, reporters converged on the motel.
''And Jesse was saying, 'I was the last person in the world he spoke to,' '' recalls the Rev. Hosea Williams, an Atlanta city council member and former King associate who was also at the motel. ''I saw the blood on Jesse's shirt and I know Jesse had not been near Dr. King.''
That night, Mr. Jackson flew to Chicago. The next day, he had Don Rose book him on two local television talk shows; he also appeared that morning on NBC's ''Today Show,'' wearing the same blood-stained turtleneck that he had worn the day before. He told reporters he was the last to talk to Dr. King, who died, he said, cradled in his arms.
But none of that is so, according to several King aides, who remain bitter about the incident and still ask why Mr. Jackson did not change his shirt.
''Trauma. And it was in part defiance and anger and hurt,'' explains Mr. Jackson, who both stands by his story and alters it a bit. Today, he does not say that he cradled the dying man's head, only that he ''reached out for'' him. His wife supports his explanation. ''I think he had the same clothes on for two or three days,'' says Jacqueline Jackson. ''I think it was psychological.''
Not many of Dr. King's colleagues are mollified. ''I hope God has forgiven him,'' says Dr. Abernathy, one of the few close King associates who says he will support Mr. Jackson's Presidential bid. ''He has had time to pray. He is a different man now. It would be wrong from me to hold it against him.''"
Interesting to juxtapose with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_shirt
Posted by: cthulhu at July 14, 2013 11:58 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Adriane ... at July 15, 2013 04:15 AM (Jv4FA)
Don't knock it 'til you've tried a stout float. Or a porter over a scoop.
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St. Swithin's day if thou dost rain
For forty days it will remain
St. Swithin's day if thou be fair
For forty days 'twill rain nae mair.
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