July 22, 2013
— Maetenloch
Detroit's 60-Year Decline into Bankruptcy Hell
The 1967 riots weren't the root cause but they were a definite inflection point in the city's decline:
It's hard to overstate the traumatic and lingering effects of the 1967 riots, which for many older native Detroiters forever marked the watershed in the city's downward economic spiral and triggered the mass exodus of its population.
Young wrote in a 1994 memoir, as he was leaving office, that the city never recovered from the riots."Detroit's losses went a hell of a lot deeper than the immediate toll of lives and buildings. The riot put Detroit on the fast track to economic desolation, mugging the city and making off with incalculable value in jobs, earnings taxes, corporate taxes, retail dollars, sales taxes, mortgages, interest, property taxes, development dollars, investment dollars, tourism dollars, and plain damn money.
He added that "The money was carried out in the pockets of the businesses and the white people who fled as fast as they could." Conservative economist Thomas Sowell once noted that before the riots, Detroit's black population had the highest rate of home-ownership of any black urban population in the country, and their unemployment rate was just 3.4 percent.
And Michael Barone concurs:
When people ask me why I moved from liberal to conservative, I have a one-word answer: Detroit. I grew up there, on a middle-class grid street in northwest Detroit and a curving street in affluent suburban Birmingham, and I got a job as an intern in the office of the mayor in the summer of 1967 when Detroit rioted. I was at the side of Mayor Jerome Cavanagh and occasionally Governor George Romney during the six days and nights in which 43 people, mostly innocent bystanders, died. I listened to the radio in the police commissioner's office as commanders announced, shortly after sundown, that they were abandoning one square mile after another. The riot ended only after federal troops were called in and restored order.
And here are some reasons why Detroit is unlikely to ever recover:
2) Detroit is facing $20 billion in debt and unfunded liabilities. That breaks down to more than $25,000 per resident.9) An astounding 47 percent of the residents of the city of Detroit are functionally illiterate.
22) The violent crime rate in Detroit is five times higher than the national average.
And a modest proposal on how to deal with the denizens of Detroit.
Alice Walker Blames Trayvon Martin's Death on Zimmerman, Sleestaks
And how do we know that Zimmerman isn't a sleestak wearing a white-hispanic suit? Answer: We don't.
Joe Friday: "Don't try to build a new country. Make this one work."
OMG Goldman-Sachs Is in Ur Soda, Stealing Your Aluminum!!
Or maybe not. Here Tom Maquire of JustOneMinute does a little sanity checking on the NYT article claiming that Goldman-Sachs warehouse shuffling is costing Americans $billions and finds it wanting. It's a cautionary tale of why you shouldn't trust the NYT when it comes to business. Or math.
At roughly a dollar a pound for aluminum, one can has about 3 cents worth of metal. Even with processing cots of zero, the one-tenth of a cent described by the Times is nowhere near 20% of the total cost; it is more like 3.3%, actually.
What the Times seems to have discovered is the Twilight struggle between end-users and speculators. Just what was meant to happen when the global economy hit the skids in 2008? Aluminum producers could (a) stop mining bauxite, the raw material, (b) stop smelting bauxite into aluminum, or (c) make the aluminum and store it (or sell it to speculators willing to do just that) in hopes of higher prices down the road. Depending on the material, storage may be the least expensive option
Basically a lot of speculators have been buying up unwanted aluminum since the price crashed in 2008 and need a place to keep it while waiting for the price to go back up. And GS has figured out a way to make money off of this by maxing out their storage areas, collecting rent, and slowing down the outflow.
Of course this only works so long as people want to store aluminum more than they want to sell it. It's not 'nice' but it does have the benefit of buffering the AL supply and guaranteeing availability at a predictable price.
But Your Honor She Wasn't Wearing a Headscarf
So of course he had to rape her:
"[TW] said no but I go ahead with it because I believe that at the time I commit these offences, I believe that she was promiscuous ." he said. "She don't know us, I don't know her, like she was not related to us and she was not wearing any purdah . like she was not . covered her face, she was not wearing any headscarf and she started drinking with us and she was singing.
...He said it was only now, since he had gained a "better understanding of Australian culture", that he knew the rapes were wrong
Controlling the Present by Controlling the Past
Global warming activist-scientists routinely alter temperature readings from past decades - and always in one direction:
Almost all past temperatures have been adjusted downward, compared with the temperatures that were actually recorded at the time. During the Dust Bowl years of the 1930s, when many record high temperatures were recorded, the readings have been adjusted downward by, generally speaking, one to one and a half degrees. These adjustments stop abruptly in the late 1990s. The effect of the adjustments is to make the past look cooler in relation to the present.
This kind of manipulation of data, changing the historical record after the fact, is done ALL THE TIME by the climate alarmists who crank out all of the data that are reported on in the newspapers. And the adjustments are always the same: they make the past cooler, so that the present will look warmer, in order to support their power-grabbing climate hysteria agenda. Whenever you hear on the radio that a temperature reading is the "warmest ever" in a particular place, you can reasonably assume that the "warmest ever" title was conferred by falsely reporting temperature readings from past decades.
When you have to modify data from the past and can't predict the climate even a few years from now, you're not doing science - you're doing politics...dishonest politics.
How Thor's Hammer Made Its Way Onto Soldiers' Headstones
11 Things Banned in Other Countries, but Legal in the US
And some Glocks as well.
The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.
And my twitter thang.
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Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 06:27 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 22, 2013 06:28 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 06:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Erik Von Daniken at July 22, 2013 06:31 PM (Aif/5)
I figure my facebook portrait pic might do
Posted by: kbdabear at July 22, 2013 06:35 PM (/9IC1)
Just in case you think you will ever escape....ours is 19, and can still instantly become a rancid bitch for seemingly no reason at all.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2013 06:35 PM (gqgiP)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 06:36 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 22, 2013 06:36 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 06:36 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2013 06:36 PM (gqgiP)
Called Rachel Jeantel?
Posted by: kbdabear at July 22, 2013 06:36 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: L, elle at July 22, 2013 06:37 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 10:36 PM (GEICT)
That is rude and insensitive of you to suggest that all women are like that.*
* Boilerplate denial of reality on the off chance I can get laid tonight.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2013 06:37 PM (gqgiP)
Called Rachel Jeantel?
Posted by: kbdabear at July 22, 2013 10:36 PM
Taken a selfie with the flames in the background.
Posted by: huerfano at July 22, 2013 06:38 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 06:38 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Zombie Tray at July 22, 2013 06:39 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 06:39 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Flying Manatee at July 22, 2013 06:39 PM (YEDer)
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Posted by: Claudia the Mountain Gorilla ... at July 22, 2013 06:40 PM (Wk9TK)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 06:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Ma Bell at July 22, 2013 06:40 PM (RLdcX)
Red-headed ninjas.
http://www.threadless.com/nsft/ginjas/
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 22, 2013 06:40 PM (/ZRoC)
that's a big-ass diamond
I think I will use as a lecture example how much heat would be obtained if one were to burn the Hope Diamond
Posted by: chemjeff at July 22, 2013 06:41 PM (9GG/0)
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I've found the "shallow grave" threat to illicit more immediate responses.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 06:41 PM (4Mv1T)
It's the Chevy Vega or Mustang II of city governments by design.
Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at July 22, 2013 06:41 PM (pgcms)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at July 22, 2013 06:42 PM (5YUSx)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Baking at July 22, 2013 06:43 PM (GmTxn)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 06:43 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: Mindy at July 22, 2013 06:43 PM (Z08cx)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 06:43 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: CMU VET at July 22, 2013 06:43 PM (ejB0r)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 06:43 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Cretin, a high-grade moron at July 22, 2013 06:43 PM (fS2Sn)
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 06:44 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 06:45 PM (GEICT)
Well, since you will have to steal it, you will draw all the heat toward it, so it's an endothermic reaction.
(Sort of. If you squint. For the purposes of the joke. Never mind)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2013 06:45 PM (gqgiP)
Posted by: Glenn Fry ... at July 22, 2013 06:46 PM (Wk9TK)
Posted by: AltonJackson is not posting with a new hash tonight at July 22, 2013 06:46 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 06:47 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: madamemayhem at July 22, 2013 06:47 PM (S2RnE)
I agree with Barone, I got it young but Detroit and the decline of Dayton taught me without my having been "liberal."
I have nothing nice to give, no hope and as such rather than drive you to go through another EMO string of ONTs I will pull the fade.
The GOP has been handed club after club after club and we swing not a one.
A GOP that can't hammer home that Detroit is a clusterfuck b/c of Unions and Democrats is not a GOP worth saving.
I'll poke my head in on the ONTs or if something is so compelling and I have a point to make so strongly it is worth reading.
I cede the battleground to the Brooks Noonan Frummian Light Brigade.
God bless you.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 06:47 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 06:47 PM (8lmkt)
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Good luck. I moved mine 8 states away one year ago, but he's coming home for three months for surgery in September. He'll be a newly minted 21 year old so I am sure I will have to create some new threats.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 06:47 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: King Baracka The Magnificent at July 22, 2013 06:47 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 22, 2013 06:48 PM (aGYmX)
Keep fighting the good fight Comrade Arthur, I may be your wingman on Twitter some.
They don't believe that but they do use it, they want to control where you live, what you buy, how much you get paid, how much you pay, what your kids learn....
keep up the good fight.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 06:49 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Ma Bell at July 22, 2013 06:49 PM (RLdcX)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 22, 2013 06:49 PM (l3vZN)
-during said riots the "African Americans" living in Detroit threatened to come into the suburbs and start killing the suburban children. You won't read that anywhere. But the threats DID happen.
-everyone also seems to "forget" that the mayor of record, Coleman Motherfin'g Young said he didn't need or want whitey involved in 'their' city.
Have I cleared up the picture any for ya'll?
Posted by: Shibumi at July 22, 2013 06:50 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 06:50 PM (GEICT)
You have a nice evening....
you know the nation would be betetr off if in lieu of homesteading we sorta uh "used our resources" to grow our way solvent...
just saying.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 06:50 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Ma Bell at July 22, 2013 10:40 PM (RLdcX)
Detroit vice cops raided an after hours (illegal) seller of liquor. Residents got 'uppity' cops called in more cops, residents called more residents, governor called in National Guard, residents started shooting at Guard troops. Governor Romney wanted LBJ to send in Federal troops. LBJ didn't want Romney (R) getting credit, so Federal troops didn't do much until LBJ got his PR program up to speed. So the republicans (law and order types, oppressors of poor black folk, you see) took the blame for inflaming the passions of innocent black folks who just wanted a little cheap liquor now and then.
Whites left, republicans washed their hands of the whole mess. Democrats do what liberals do, make excuses and deflect blame while filling their pockets with graft money and federal funds.
Posted by: Let me google that for you at July 22, 2013 06:50 PM (p4uiN)
Posted by: Splunge at July 22, 2013 06:51 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: LGoPs at July 22, 2013 06:51 PM (lL1xY)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 06:51 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: AltonJackson is not posting with a new hash tonight at July 22, 2013 06:51 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 06:51 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2013 06:52 PM (sdi6R)
Yeah Im a wuss. Polar cube do your magic!
Posted by: helofixer at July 22, 2013 06:53 PM (GmWge)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 22, 2013 06:53 PM (jucos)
>>> Detroit and New Orleans seem to have something in common. But I won't point it out because that would be...um...Oh hell. You figure it out.
Chocolate Cities!
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 06:53 PM (gBXks)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 22, 2013 06:54 PM (jucos)
Posted by: BlackOrchidSayer at July 22, 2013 06:54 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 06:55 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 10:47 PM (LRFds)
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I couldn't agree with you more sven. God Bless you too.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 22, 2013 06:55 PM (lL1xY)
Posted by: UWP at July 22, 2013 06:55 PM (r98SZ)
that was just about perfect, although you also have to remember that the entire country came pretty damn close to burning that year . . . Newark was bad, LA was bad. there was a real LIB thing going on then. i remember because i was there (not in the combat zone but i watched it happen on tv)
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 06:55 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 06:55 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: Cowboy at July 22, 2013 06:55 PM (m5TOl)
Posted by: BlackOrchidSayer at July 22, 2013 06:55 PM (2up3Q)
A GOP that can't hammer home that Detroit is a clusterfuck b/c of Unions and Democrats is not a GOP worth saving....
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 10:47 PM (LRFds)
THIS TIMES 1000
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 22, 2013 06:56 PM (jucos)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 06:56 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 06:57 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: BlackOrchidSayer at July 22, 2013 06:57 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: AltonJackson is not posting with a new hash tonight at July 22, 2013 10:51 PM (JMmQ9)
iirc, it was just a general malaise with the status quo, a wide-spread fed-up-it-ness. and there were a lot of protests and assassinations and the tet offensive and, well, just a lot of shit going on. a little bit like now.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 06:57 PM (8lmkt)
Philly is scarier.
Seriously.
Detroit is just emptier.
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And what do they have in common? I forget. And even if I remembered I couldn't say it because......you know.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 22, 2013 06:58 PM (lL1xY)
Posted by: @ParisParamus (Twitter) at July 22, 2013 06:58 PM (IMD0f)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 06:58 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BlackOrchidSayer at July 22, 2013 06:58 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 06:58 PM (qo244)
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2013 06:58 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: DAve at July 22, 2013 06:58 PM (albkL)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 06:59 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 22, 2013 06:59 PM (jucos)
I worked demolition with some of the guys who were in the National Guard during the Newark riots.
If the stories are to be believed, they would have made the Korean Shop Owners in LA proud.
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 07:01 PM (gBXks)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at July 22, 2013 07:01 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 10:47 PM (LRFds) ***I couldn't agree with you more sven. God Bless you too.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 22, 2013 10:55 PM (lL1xY)
Yep... all the Repubs have to do is point to how the Dems have F'd up Detroit... or even worse... California...
California IS the future of the Nation... stupid Enviro Laws, high energy costs, and all the Illegals you want... with a really horrid Regulatory laws...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 22, 2013 07:01 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 22, 2013 07:01 PM (jucos)
Posted by: BlackOrchidSayer at July 22, 2013 07:02 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: BlackOrchidSayer at July 22, 2013 10:55 PM
xxx
Yes, it is. You can be downtown during the week, and if there's no specific event- say a game or a show- you can roll a bowling ball down Jefferson Ave. and not hit anyone from about 8pm on.
Posted by: Shibumi at July 22, 2013 07:03 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: Cowboy at July 22, 2013 07:03 PM (m5TOl)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 07:03 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 07:03 PM (DpI6K)
My oldest daughter lives there. I'm not happy. But she is 26 and has a stud muffin, what's a dad to do? Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 07:03 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Will Smith at July 22, 2013 07:03 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at July 22, 2013 07:03 PM (D8tPj)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 07:04 PM (aDwsi)
Three sources for your consideration, Rutgers, Global Security, and a personal/private/historical source.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6ewwry
http://www.detroits-great-rebellion.com/
http://preview.tinyurl.com/kcwc7zb
One of the accounts, I forget which, has an aside that as things were beginning to calm down 'communist agitators' stirred things up again.
Democrats in Detroit, and organized labor are notoriously sympathetic to marxist economic theory. Which is why so many of us now just say 'stand back, get out of the way, and let it burn'. Trying to blame us for failing to provide answers to an obvious problem is something the liberal democrats do so well.
Posted by: Let me google that for you at July 22, 2013 07:04 PM (p4uiN)
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And if you did you wouldn't know it.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 07:04 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 22, 2013 07:05 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 07:06 PM (gwNM1)
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:06 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 22, 2013 07:07 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: AltonJackson is not posting with a new hash tonight at July 22, 2013 07:07 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 07:07 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Glenn Fry ... at July 22, 2013 07:08 PM (Wk9TK)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 22, 2013 07:08 PM (Vk2pI)
http://tinyurl.com/kw2xb3c
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 07:08 PM (gwNM1)
Also... if you're downtown and not part of traffic from an event, and it's after midnight, traffic lights are optional. Really. If at any time, you're stopped at a light, and you see someone and feel "uncomfortable," you can just go through the light. I mean, it's not like there will be anyone but you at the light any ways. And really, a cop show up? Hahahahha, you so funny!
Finally, for the Love of God, do NOT decide to take the scenic route. Sure, it will be like a foray into a third world country, but you could be hit in a drive by.
Just saying...
Posted by: Shibumi at July 22, 2013 07:09 PM (25HWz)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 22, 2013 07:09 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 22, 2013 07:09 PM (Wk9TK)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at July 22, 2013 07:10 PM (UR1wn)
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:10 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 07:10 PM (gwNM1)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at July 22, 2013 07:10 PM (D8tPj)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 22, 2013 07:10 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 22, 2013 11:01 PM (jucos)
Indeed
Posted by: Omar Little at July 22, 2013 07:10 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 22, 2013 11:01 PM (lZBBB)
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Mrs LGoPs and I are fleeing CA, bound for Idaho. Already bought a beautiful place up there. When we leave CA I'm taking the rear view mirrors out of the car so I don't have to fucking look back.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 22, 2013 07:10 PM (lL1xY)
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Ace mentioned a few months back fight sequences that imitate realism in
such as fashion that they really draw the viewer in to the
brutality/ugliness/simplicity of hand to hand combat.
Ok, to this point- GO WATCH THE MAN FROM NOWHERE. IMDB it. You will freak at the knife fight in the ending- by far the best sequence I've ever seen. This is a KOREAN flick that will completely surprise you. I watched this for the first time last night- and could not quit it. The little girl in the flick (don't they all have one?) will make you bawl your eyes out.
No shit guys- this one was a complete surprise...
Posted by: Mr Wolf at July 22, 2013 07:11 PM (6N1Il)
Posted by: thunderb at July 22, 2013 07:11 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at July 22, 2013 07:11 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at July 22, 2013 07:11 PM (caPl0)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 07:11 PM (DpI6K)
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Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 07:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 10:43 PM (DpI6K)
Gee, just like Newark.
Posted by: Berserker at July 22, 2013 07:12 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 07:12 PM (gwNM1)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 22, 2013 07:12 PM (Wk9TK)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 07:12 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BlackOrchidSayer at July 22, 2013 07:13 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 07:13 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at July 22, 2013 07:13 PM (D8tPj)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 07:13 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 22, 2013 07:14 PM (0iXNc)
mess. It put a permanent negative blot on the city of Detroit. The riots
increased white flight, business flight, and the flight of anyone with
the wherewithal to leave. It showed a large number of people completely
lacking in any kind of rational control over their own behavior.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 10:43 PM
When you're aggressively told you're not needed or wanted in a specific city by that mayor, you tend to believe him. So... leaving seems like the only rational response.
Posted by: Shibumi at July 22, 2013 07:14 PM (25HWz)
increased white flight, business flight, and the flight of anyone with
the wherewithal to leave. It showed a large number of people completely
lacking in any kind of rational control over their own behavior.
That is so true. Flint went down the shitter almost immediately. Detroit's just catching up. Still, ineffably sad to me. I wanted our great country to always be great and it breaks my fuckin' hard little heart that apparently it's gonna happen so fast that I will still be around to witness the tawdry end.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:14 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at July 22, 2013 07:14 PM (UR1wn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 07:14 PM (gwNM1)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 22, 2013 07:15 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 22, 2013 07:15 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: mindful webworker, invalidictorian at July 22, 2013 07:15 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: mpfs, @mpfs79 at July 22, 2013 07:15 PM (65dQq)
I saw it years ago on a trip to DC. I have some dim memory of leaning on the glass and getting yelled at by a security guard. Yeah, it's something.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 11:03 PM (DpI6K)
--The first time I saw it, it was in a standard case along the wall like the other jewels. The last time I saw it a couple years ago it was in a dedicated space, and viewers could gather around 360 degrees, not 180 like before. It also was on a turntable so you did not have to shimmy around to see all facets. Beautiful.
Posted by: Omar Little at July 22, 2013 07:16 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: mindful webworker, invalidictorian at July 22, 2013 07:16 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 07:16 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 07:17 PM (gwNM1)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 22, 2013 07:17 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 22, 2013 07:17 PM (Wk9TK)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 07:18 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 22, 2013 07:19 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mr. Warmth at July 22, 2013 07:19 PM (5J54Q)
ops:Posted by: rrpjr at July 22, 2013 07:20 PM (ajsKn)
http://www.marchandmeffre.com/detroit/index.html
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 07:21 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Hockey puck at July 22, 2013 07:21 PM (K+I6z)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 11:04 PM (aDwsi)
--Remember how the original Sim City had a scenario involving Detroit whose main purpose was to tamp down on the crime?
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 07:21 PM (3VBXw)
If the stories are to be believed, they would have made the Korean Shop Owners in LA proud.
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 11:01 PM (gBXks)
To be fair: Newark was well on it's way to the crapper BEFORE 1967...it was in the 50's when the bleeding-heart liberals running the show decided that public housing was the right thing to do. Entire neighborhoods of beautiful homes with thriving businesses on the properties were destroyed to create high rises..which were then destroyed by their inhabitants within a year. ( yeah ..hurray for Emminent Domain)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 22, 2013 11:14 PM (0iXNc)
Pretty much right on both accounts.My parents were from the area and grew up there. They moved out in the very early 60's because they saw the writing. My father had a store there for a lot of the 60's (during the riots) and got out in the mid 70's. He knew some newark cops pretty good who told him point blank they will never know the death toll because they were throwing them down the sewers as they wasted them. They weren't fucking around.
Posted by: Berserker at July 22, 2013 07:21 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at July 22, 2013 07:21 PM (6RXLJ)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 07:21 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: Cowboy at July 22, 2013 07:21 PM (m5TOl)
Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2013 07:22 PM (M/TDA)
*watches on TV the episode Cat's Paw while taking taking a break from writing*
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 07:22 PM (gwNM1)
Posted by: mindful webworker, forgot to leave yet at July 22, 2013 07:22 PM (U13jb)
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Joe - Take a look at this. TR will will remember it. Girl who was President of the Student body at UNC. Murdered by Durham trash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Eve_Carson
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 07:23 PM (aDwsi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhe3vb0z7mY
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:23 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: RWC at July 22, 2013 07:23 PM (8FeS+)
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And..., you PAY them to do it..
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 07:24 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 07:25 PM (gwNM1)
Posted by: Sleestak Jerky at July 22, 2013 07:25 PM (vHRtU)
He woulda robbed their ass and put the shit in his locker at school. And, ya know what, GOD BLESS George Zimmerman, democrat dumbass that he is. He needs a come-to-Jesus and get right next time there's a choice to be made at the ballot box. But, yeah, God bless him.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:25 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 22, 2013 07:25 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 07:26 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: Radioactive Supermutants at July 22, 2013 07:26 PM (Vk2pI)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Eve_Carson
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Didn't one of them just get a re-sentencing hearing because he was 17 at the time?
I have no mercy for the merciless.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 07:26 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: EC at July 22, 2013 07:26 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: logprof
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I fussed with Sim City early on, but do not recall that scenario. Was simply calling in a massive napalm strike one of the options?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 07:27 PM (aDwsi)
>>> He knew some newark cops pretty good who told him point blank they will never know the death toll because they were throwing them down the sewers as they wasted them.
I was told that the river washed away most of the evidence, too.
They swear that the majority of the rioters that were disposed of were not from Newark. Apparently there were a lot of southerners coming up to participate in the riots.
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 07:27 PM (gBXks)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 07:27 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at July 22, 2013 07:27 PM (D8tPj)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 22, 2013 07:27 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:27 PM (8lmkt)
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Luck of the Draw, Nick of Time. Two of my favorite CDs.
Did you see her on-stage with Lyle Lovett?
Smoldering.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 07:29 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 07:29 PM (gwNM1)
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 11:28 PM (gBXks)
holy crap, I'm doin dixie chicken right now and if you ever need a kidney, I owe you for this moment of pure drunk-ass joy!!!!
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:30 PM (8lmkt)
On February 5, 2013 the North Carolina Court of Appeals vacated Lovette's life sentence and ordered a new sentencing hearing. The decision relied on Miller v. Alabama, where the Supreme Court ruled that a mandatory sentence of life in prison without parole for defendants under 18 at the time of a crime is cruel and unusual punishment. The resentencing hearing has been scheduled for April 26, 2013. Lovette has also been charged with the murder of Abhijit Mahato, a 29-year-old Duke University engineering student who was found dead inside his off-campus apartment in January 2008. A trial date has not been set
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 07:31 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: RWC at July 22, 2013 07:31 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 11:20 PM (8lmkt)
I am a happily married mayhem but I think the same way only about Jason Statham. Yep, I am bad.
Posted by: madamemayhem at July 22, 2013 07:32 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2013 07:32 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at July 22, 2013 07:32 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 07:32 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 07:32 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: EC at July 22, 2013 07:32 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: thunderb at July 22, 2013 07:33 PM (zOTsN)
Smoldering.
Posted by: Tobacco Road
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Fox Theater, Atlanta.., on the night of her 40th birthday. No Lyle, but who cares?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 07:33 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 22, 2013 07:33 PM (aH+zP)
Smoldering.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 11:29 PM (4Mv1T)
TR . . . my brutha . . . in my many years in LA I have met a lot of people, but the one that sent a tingle up my leg was meeting Bonnie, many years ago, in a little venue in SM called At My Place, she was there to see whoever, as I was. I plotzed. And I was never prone to plotzing, but it was SO cool to meet her. She's quite tall. Great hair. Super nice.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:33 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 22, 2013 07:33 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 22, 2013 07:33 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: logprof
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I fussed with Sim City early on, but do not recall that scenario. Was simply calling in a massive napalm strike one of the options?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 11:27 PM (aDwsi)
--The original Sim City had scenarios, some real-life (like Detroit/crime), some funny/fictional (Tokyo/monster). It was fun, if not as sophisticated as later versions.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 07:34 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: jax♥ at July 22, 2013 07:35 PM (OJ17s)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at July 22, 2013 11:32 PM (Sptt
Wow, Justamom, that's great! So glad you are bouncing back . . . my sis had rotator cuff surgery and it was months, if not years, of PT, and it's never really been right. Rock on!!!
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:35 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 07:36 PM (HVff2)
that's a big-ass diamond
I think I will use as a lecture example how much heat would be obtained if one were to burn the Hope Diamond
Posted by: chemjeff at July 22, 2013 10:41 PM (9GG/0)
"Scientists are pretty certain of these calculations, and thus show little desire to validate it through empirical observation."
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 07:36 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Peaches
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That show I saw on the tube with her and Lyle. It was probably staged, but she crooned and gazed at him, like well.... Holy Crap.
And, of course, she's a ginger.
And a badass blues slide-guitar player
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 07:36 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 22, 2013 07:37 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 07:37 PM (XyrkB)
hell and damnation, but I love youtube . . . they got "Willin'" . . . if i still had my jeans on, I'd be creamin' em by now.
thank you all, so much, for putting up with my goofy ass all these years!!!!!
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:38 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 07:38 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Cowboy at July 22, 2013 07:39 PM (m5TOl)
Posted by: Hockey puck at July 22, 2013 07:39 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: The Dude at July 22, 2013 07:39 PM (vJdyz)
I remember weather from when I was a kid but nothing like this. There are probably better links but this will give you the idea an I didn't want to link MPR)
Armistice Day Blizzard 1940
http://wjon.com/armistice-day-blizzard-on-this-date-in-central-minnesota-history/
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 07:39 PM (qo244)
Posted by: thunderb at July 22, 2013 07:39 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:39 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at July 22, 2013 07:40 PM (D8tPj)
Posted by: Justamom has one kid at camp at July 22, 2013 07:40 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 22, 2013 11:37 PM (ZPrif)
Indeed.
Posted by: Omar at July 22, 2013 07:41 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 07:41 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at July 22, 2013 07:42 PM (caPl0)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 11:37 PM (XyrkB)
--We bash Euros regularly (and mostly rightly) here, but the French are right on that score. No babies names Frigidaire, please.
Posted by: Omar at July 22, 2013 07:42 PM (3VBXw)
They swear that the majority of the rioters that were disposed of were not from Newark. Apparently there were a lot of southerners coming up to participate in the riots.
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 11:27 PM (gBXks)
Thats exactly right. They had the exits on the parkway blocked to stop southerners that were trying to run guns, ammo, and muscle to the riots. A lot found their way their anyway, but it didn't end good for some of them.
Posted by: Berserker at July 22, 2013 07:42 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: logprof can't resist at July 22, 2013 07:43 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at July 22, 2013 11:42 PM (caPl0)
yeah, you never been to Newark in the '60s, right? 
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:43 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 07:44 PM (DpI6K)
Assuming Goldman Sachs is screwing the rest of us without doing anything useful is usually a safe enough bet.
Posted by: Methos, not going for the sarcastic sockpuppet this time at July 22, 2013 07:44 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 07:45 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at July 22, 2013 07:45 PM (caPl0)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 11:41 PM (T1005)
I found it at the bottom of the page. It's from mental floss so maybe they have a search feature. I don't know how to do that link thingy or I would try to find it for you.
Posted by: madamemayhem at July 22, 2013 07:46 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 11:37 PM (XyrkB)
so in other words, you want government to have a bigger hand in dictating culture
Posted by: The Dude at July 22, 2013 07:47 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 22, 2013 07:47 PM (ZPrif)
But, hey, I hear Ann Arbor is still nice . . . is that wrong or what?
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:48 PM (8lmkt)
I specifically recall my next door neighbors saying to me when I knocked on their screen door, probably about 7am one Saturday, "Don't you have a home?".
Funny the things we remember. The Hemingways. Probably 1963.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 07:49 PM (4Mv1T)
And rent (See Manhattan).
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 07:49 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Thrawn at July 22, 2013 07:49 PM (KiyII)
Only reason he leads on a golf course is because he shanks and slices so much he keeps holding up the pack of seventy year old foursomes behind him.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 22, 2013 07:49 PM (Fz2C7)
Posted by: madamemayhem at July 22, 2013 07:50 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: Cowboy at July 22, 2013 07:50 PM (m5TOl)
Newark, Trenton, and Plainfield NJ have these big residential streets with old gorgeous and totally dilapidated mansions that are now ghettos. Those towns never recovered from the 67 riots, whites and business owners fled. Only the FSA remains. Phone and cable companies always have to send two guys in the van. One for the job, the other to stay in the truck to make sure it doesn't get cleaned out. I had a cable guy said he had hookers and crack dealers accost him in broad daylight at lunch
Posted by: thunderb at July 22, 2013 07:50 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 22, 2013 07:51 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 07:52 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 07:52 PM (K+I6z)
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The Unions, or the EPA?
Detroit pretty much got bashed from within, and without.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 07:53 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 22, 2013 07:53 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Berserker at July 22, 2013 07:54 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 07:54 PM (HVff2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1GZzucDMlQ
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:55 PM (8lmkt)
They are good kids. A Little annoying (the one spent an hour asking me what every tool I used to install a trailer hitch to my car was). But in this case I don't mind too much since any girl that shows some interest in mechanical things should not be shooed.
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 07:55 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 07:55 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 07:55 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 07:56 PM (gBXks)
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 22, 2013 07:56 PM (dE8R8)
Posted by: Peaches
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Then there's Camden..
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 07:56 PM (aDwsi)
Naturally. Why cut the one thing that has no present or future benefit for the general population.
Posted by: Methos at July 22, 2013 07:56 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2013 07:56 PM (M/TDA)
Agreed, but your first sentence is addressed to the wrong crowd here.
Conservatives embrace the truth.
It's liberals that hide it, dissemble it, or shout it down while they are deconstructing Capitalism and our Free Republic.
Posted by: ontherocks at July 22, 2013 07:57 PM (WPz46)
Bingo!!! He can't do shit right. If he was such a great fuckin' golfer, why are his scores a fuckin' state secret. What a POS he is. I could probably beat the crap out of him . . . certainly on the front nine. And I don't do mulligans, so we'd be playing different games.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 07:58 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: McGregor
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And I wasn't trying to bash. It just made me remember something I hadn't thought of in 20 or 30 years. If a neighbor kid shows up at my door at 7am, repeatedly, I might be inclined to be, well, direct , with my comments.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 07:58 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 22, 2013 07:58 PM (BXLPR)
No problem I come here for the diversion and if that leads to actually being useful it's a bonus.
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 07:59 PM (qo244)
Posted by: thunderb at July 22, 2013 11:50 PM (zOTsN)
Ain't that the truth. Its a damn shame. There are a few parts of Plainfield that have the old houses in really nice shape. The wife's uncle has one of those mansions on "millionaires" row that looks like the day it was built in 1910. It is absolutely stunning and practically 100% original other than an updated kitchen. Still has the copper lined wooden toilet tanks. I mean the place is time capsuled. I wouldn't frigging live there, you have to drive through no man's land to get there. But that house is just amazing.
Posted by: Berserker at July 22, 2013 07:59 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Mustang II
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One of my neighbors just dragged one of those into his driveway. Landau roof, with sunroof. His house is for sale, $625,000.
What the frig is he thinking??
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:00 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 08:00 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 22, 2013 08:00 PM (ZPrif)
LA has wider zones, but in some parts you cross suddenly into gang country. Cross Franklin at Western and you go from nice homes on the north side to bars on the windows less than a block south
Posted by: kbdabear at July 22, 2013 08:01 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2013 08:01 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 11:56 PM (aDwsi)
Hey, cruise on up to Patterson sometime. It may be gone by now, but the swampland either side of the Patterson Plank Road was where a lotta goombas met their maker back in the day. And don't even talk to me about Jersey City!!! lol . . . I lived in Ridgewood in the early 70s. It was lovely and just down the road from Tice's Farms and those hot donuts and fresh cider. I imagine it's all pretty much gone to shit by now.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:02 PM (8lmkt)
That wasn't my point either (they don't tend to wake me up). My only point was though they can get on my nerves sometimes I don't shoo them cause they are good kids wanting to learn.
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 08:02 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 22, 2013 08:02 PM (dE8R8)
Posted by: Jmel at July 22, 2013 08:03 PM (cfFqn)
http://www.sportscardigest.com/wp-content/uploads/Porsche-911-Class-3.jpg
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 08:04 PM (aDwsi)
>>> it's the rural areas across the country that are emptying out.
Explain the Californication of the West, then.
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 08:05 PM (gBXks)
If the stories are to be believed, they would have made the Korean Shop Owners in LA proud. Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 11:01 PM
Newark up until the 60s was a heavily Italian town. Some of the Wise Guys weren't into the "understanding their rage" kind of thing, and some rioters found that out the hard way
Posted by: kbdabear at July 22, 2013 08:05 PM (/9IC1)
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He flunked physics,
or makes bombs?
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:05 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Zombie Kim Jong Il at July 22, 2013 08:05 PM (Vk2pI)
my seester works in the theoretical astrophysics dept at caltech. they don't describe themselves as "kind of a physicist" he sounds more like kind of a douchebag to me, lol!!!
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:05 PM (8lmkt)
I'm going to assume that those new-baby folks are fully behind the open border, amnesty, blacks-are-never-guilty prospectus. That they are fully behind the Media agenda of all socialism, all the time. And that they have no problem with the State ovetaking everything. And that their heroes are Dole, McCain, Graham, et al.
So yeah, good luck convincing the rest of us that the planet has NOT had its turn, and it can only NOT survive as a lesson to others.
Thanks again!
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 22, 2013 08:05 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 11:56 PM (gBXks)
Yikes. It was a world premiere shit hole by that time. I used to bring chrome work for the harley's there to get done around that time. I actually had a special vehicle we called "the ghetto jet" we used for that ride: Basically a 70's chevy pickup with a worked corvette engine. Zip in, zip out, run over shit if you need to.
Posted by: Berserker at July 22, 2013 08:05 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 22, 2013 08:06 PM (dE8R8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 08:06 PM (aDwsi)
>>> Mjölnir would be a good name for a dirty Scandi ICBM.
I saw them open up for KMFDM back in 89.
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 08:06 PM (gBXks)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 22, 2013 08:07 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 11:27 PM (8lmkt)
It's never too late!
Posted by: Dow Corning at July 22, 2013 08:07 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:07 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Jmel at July 22, 2013 08:08 PM (cfFqn)
Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2013 08:08 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 08:08 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 22, 2013 08:08 PM (dE8R8)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 08:08 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 08:09 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Cowboy at July 22, 2013 08:09 PM (m5TOl)
>>> Yikes. It was a world premiere shit hole by that time. I used to bring chrome work for the harley's there to get done around that time. I actually had a special vehicle we called "the ghetto jet" we used for that ride: Basically a 70's chevy pickup with a worked corvette engine. Zip in, zip out, run over shit if you need to.
I know just where you went to do that, too.
I had that guy do the chrome on my 65 VW Bus. I did the entire bumpers with guards and all in chrome. Looked silly.
We ALWAYS had a guy riding shotgun, literally, when we went to the salvage yard.
Some of the craziest shit I will ever see, I saw in Newark.
Posted by: garrett at July 22, 2013 08:09 PM (gBXks)
I'm going to assume that those new-baby folks are fully behind the open border, amnesty, blacks-are-never-guilty prospectus. That they are fully behind the Media agenda of all socialism, all the time. And that they have no problem with the State ovetaking everything. And that their heroes are Dole, McCain, Graham, et al.
So yeah, good luck convincing the rest of us that the planet has NOT had its turn, and it can only NOT survive as a lesson to others.
Thanks again!
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
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You're one thread late with that. Thanks for pissing on the fireworks.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:10 PM (4Mv1T)
Oh, hell, yeah. May God strike me senseless, but that first first pitch that little bitch flailed out, in his momjeans, remains my favorite vid of our fuckin' embarrassment in chief. may he rot in hell sooner rather than later (yeah, trudy, i know you're saving this, have another big mac and go fuck yaself, eh?)
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:11 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Jmel at July 22, 2013 08:11 PM (cfFqn)
There are firms which do nothing other than relocate historic buildings to new quarters.
Not a single one of those firms will operate in Detroit. The safety risks are just too high. And these are highly compensated professionals who can take or leave a job offer, so the job offers get left on the table.
It's a pity. There were some absolutely beautiful old homes there. To be burned and looted by the feral gangs of illiterates.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 22, 2013 08:11 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 22, 2013 08:12 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: kbdabear at July 23, 2013 12:05 AM (/9IC1)
Absolutely. I'm a Newark born italian. I heard plenty of stories. I remember one about a pickup truck full of rioters brandishing weapons, basically looking like a "technical" from Mogadishu cruising down the street of a "better" neighborhood looking for some shit. It ended up full of holes, upside down burning, and no survivors.
Posted by: Berserker at July 22, 2013 08:12 PM (FMbng)
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Of course. And that ain't all...., the Number 8 911 that finished 4th at LeMans is in the same garage. Picture here : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-Stunden-Rennen_von_Le_Mans_1973
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 08:13 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 08:13 PM (HVff2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Truth_About_Chernobyl
It was possible to tell the truth back in the U S S R. It just wasn't always listened to.
Posted by: the Barbed Cock at July 22, 2013 08:14 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 08:14 PM (K+I6z)
"It could be a convertible ... but it's not!">>
My Father worked at Fischer Body which made the bodies for GM cars back in the 1970s. The Vinyl/Landau roof. was at least partially way to hide damage during manufacture. No bondo back then and leading a roof was a bitch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ_85fp1avs
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 08:14 PM (qo244)
>>> a pickup truck full of rioters brandishing weapons, basically looking like a "technical" from Mogadishu cruising down the street of a "better" neighborhood looking for some shit. It ended up full of holes, upside down burning, and no survivors.
Wew prayed!
Posted by: Korean Shopowner at July 22, 2013 08:14 PM (gBXks)
Posted by: Helen Thomas at July 22, 2013 08:15 PM (Vk2pI)
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We'll have to have drinks sometime and discuss indemnity. Sounds like you are in P&C. I am in life and health.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:15 PM (4Mv1T)
lol, the bff is a coverage lawyer and, while it's not in the actual policies, trust me, it's there in both the lit and the pre-lit.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:17 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Jesse Venturass at July 22, 2013 08:18 PM (uLzrM)
Will future generations of Gibbons claim that "Christianity" destroyed us?
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 22, 2013 08:18 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: thunderb at July 22, 2013 08:19 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 08:19 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 22, 2013 08:20 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Jesse Ventura at July 22, 2013 08:20 PM (nO18H)
Posted by: madamemayhem at July 22, 2013 11:50 PM (S2RnE)
Thanks!
The Cthulhu detailing on the moon was cool, but I thought the Cthulhu image was a bit too dark to really benefit. I liked the skeleton a lot, though.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 08:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 08:21 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: thunderb at July 23, 2013 12:19 AM (zOTsN)
Dammit, thunderb, if I could pop wood, I would . . .
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:21 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Jesse Venturass at July 23, 2013 12:18 AM (uLzrM)
if you have to ask, well, question answered!
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:22 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Vendette, next time she has to play golf at July 22, 2013 08:23 PM (K+I6z)
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Our neighbors headed to NY for a week to see family. Asked wifey to water the flowers. Neighbor wife pulled the hose out to make it easy. Neighbor husband turned off the water, same as I do, without telling his lovely bride.
My wife has been schlepping water over there for a week. She is much better natured about it than me.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:23 PM (4Mv1T)
Picture the prince, such as most of them are today: a man ignorant of the law, well-nigh an enemy to his people's advantage, while intent on his personal convenience; a dedicated voluptuary, a hater of learning, freedom, and truth, without a thought for the interests of his country, and measuring everything in terms of his own profit and desires.
- Desiderius Erasmus (ca. 1466-1536) (In Praise of Folly, Ch. 55)
Rulers, who neither see, nor feel, nor know,But leech-like to their fainting country cling, Till they drop, blind in blood, without a blow - people starved and stabbed in the untilled field ...
- Percy Bysshe Shelly (1792-1822) (Sonnet: England in 1819)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2013 08:23 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Barbie at July 22, 2013 08:23 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 22, 2013 08:24 PM (aH+zP)
thank you, sincerely and most humbly, for putting up with me . . .
p.s. i gots 2 sets of clubs and, as you might imagine, a plethora of golf shoes, loll
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:24 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 08:24 PM (HVff2)
If it doubles every year, though, it eventually gets to a level when the law-abiding run off. Then it goes exponential, and then it reaches a new maximum. Sort of an S-curve.
So they're right to raise the alarm.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 22, 2013 08:24 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 08:26 PM (XyrkB)
Iron rule. Never fails.
Hey, vendette, if you can pop some photos up on a site somewhere about that sillcock leak you mentioned earlier, maybe the plumbing-savvy Morons can help you figure out what's wrong.
I don't myself even bother to try to fix old ones any more. Every time I try, finding parts is a bitch. Just pull off the old, clean up and tape the pipe threads, and thread on a new one. Half hour job. Good for decades.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 22, 2013 08:26 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Jesse Venturass at July 22, 2013 08:26 PM (uLzrM)
Posted by: Vendette, next time she has to play golf at July 22, 2013 08:26 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 22, 2013 08:26 PM (yoh1c)
If only! I'm no fan of CS Lewis, but he was right on this much: such a degenerate selfish lout as you describe would be infinitely preferable to one who robbed us for our own good.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 22, 2013 08:26 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: EC at July 22, 2013 08:28 PM (doBIb)
*stomps off* Posted by: Weirddave
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And when you are done stomping, we too shall have a snort, or three. Forgive my failed memory. My wife is better looking than any hookers so they'll have to stay home. And I am sure Gingy will deal with you later.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:29 PM (4Mv1T)
How many permutations of black and white are there?
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 08:29 PM (qo244)
Posted by: UWP at July 22, 2013 08:29 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 23, 2013 12:26 AM (XyrkB)
I don't even know, we've just said for, like, ever. As Bobby Z from Hibbing once said, if there's an original thought out there, I could use one right now.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:29 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 23, 2013 12:20 AM (T1005)
You're welcome. And Goodnight good people! Sleep sweet and safe.
Posted by: madamemayhem at July 22, 2013 08:30 PM (S2RnE)
Supposedly living in a cramped flat that's walking distance to a gay porn art museum or fusion restaurant with 20 dollar appetizers is supposed to be a magnet for those living paycheck to paycheck.
Of course if you can't afford to live there, you have not only the taxes politicians levy on you, but the "street taxes" suffered through losses incurred through theft, vandalism, and high insurance rates
Posted by: kbdabear at July 22, 2013 08:30 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Gingy at July 22, 2013 08:31 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 22, 2013 08:31 PM (l3vZN)
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It was like the re-enactment of the Civil War last week. Much fighting amongst friends, then everyone made nice. Almost everyone.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:32 PM (4Mv1T)
I'm told that in real life Regina is a fine little city, if susceptible to teasing because of it's name. 8 murders! Just goes to show how journalists can give any impression they want. Remember that next time you read what a hell hole Baltimore is.
Posted by: Weirddave at July 23, 2013 12:20 AM (aH+zP)
--I remember the first year I moved to Winnipeg, a paper screaming from the box, "Homicides Skyrocket to 11" . . . this was in September. 11 homicides in one year by September.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 08:32 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: McGregor at July 23, 2013 12:29 AM (qo244)
some of us do the tan & white.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:32 PM (8lmkt)
He can be pretty good with his prepared remarks. He just goes into Obnoxious Hulk Mode when he has guests. That's his Achilles Heel which isn't a mere flesh wound for a talk show host.
But credit where credit is due. Tonight he rocked.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 22, 2013 08:32 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:32 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian
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We'll have to have drinks sometime and discuss indemnity. Sounds like you are in PC. I am in life and health.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 23, 2013 12:15 AM (4Mv1T)
Actually, I've been wondering about something in the life and health insurance field.....can one still get catastrophic coverage, if maybe from Lloyd's or outside the country? Something with, maybe, a $20K deductible? 'Cause it seems to me that, if you have no chronic conditions, going bare with a major catastrophic might be an Obamacare play....
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 08:33 PM (T1005)
Posted by: فضيلة الإمام الأ at July 22, 2013 08:34 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 08:35 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Gingy at July 22, 2013 08:35 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 22, 2013 08:37 PM (yoh1c)
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You will want to talk to someone in your state. Health/accident is licensed by state.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:37 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Helen Thomas at July 23, 2013 12:15 AM (Vk2pI)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Posted by: Satan at July 22, 2013 08:37 PM (IDypm)
For us non golfers it's the Black and tan.
http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink1264.html
Well it may be available on the 19th hole too.
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 08:37 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 08:38 PM (K+I6z)
gonna take my skinny, somewhat inebriated ass to bed. God bless us, every one, and y'all have my eternal gratitude for being here with me in these very interesting times. xoxo.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:38 PM (8lmkt)
You just saved me from thinking about that for hours that could be used worrying about other useless nonsense. (There is no snark, I just read it to proofread for iPad stupidity, and it sounds snarky. But it isn't.)
BTW, getting an iPad to accept Ren and Stimpy is like a stupid amount of time wasted. Don't do it if you don't have to.Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 08:39 PM (XyrkB)
You know that was Dylan's song first. He said that it now belonged to Jimi, because he made it his own.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:40 PM (4Mv1T)
During the riots, both my parents said they remembered pretty much every man in their respective neighborhoods in the western suburbs sitting on their front porches with their long guns daring the brothas to come into their blocks to raise some hell. Some were looking forward to the conflict. Would have been a race war if the black folks had dared.
My mom still talks about seeing the tanks blocking the main arteries in and out of Detroit into the burbs. There was also some sort of tri-county ban on the sale of alcohol that my dad told me my grandfather got around by driving to Howell and buying a shit pod of beer and liquor for an impromptu block party.
Growing up in Detroit in the late 70's and 80's, the actual city was night and day versus the suburbs, it was so segregated and the local suburban police forces were none to kind to black folks. Things have loosened up, but the city stands as the will and testament as to what 60 years of unfettered progressive rule does to its host.
Posted by: Devil-Slayer at July 22, 2013 08:41 PM (A571+)
Posted by: EC at July 22, 2013 08:41 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 08:42 PM (XyrkB)
Agree with you on Hendrix just completely stealing Dylan's song from under him. Hasn't been seen since Cash mugged Reznor
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 22, 2013 08:43 PM (d7tB2)
Ren and Stimpy?
Posted by: EC at July 23, 2013 12:28 AM (doBIb)
I have heard it on Dexter's Laboratory.
Posted by: Steck at July 22, 2013 08:44 PM (RL7U1)
Different city but as a kid we used to go to Sears in Minneapolis on Chicago and Lake. It was a kinda a day outing and always pleasant. I would not hang out there in a MRAP now. Also knew guys who's parents stayed there (family home for a 100 years they didn't want to leave) And the story's of how far that neighborhood fell were rage makers.
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 08:44 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 08:46 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Helen Thomas at July 23, 2013 12:15 AM (Vk2pI)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Posted by: Satan at July 23, 2013 12:37 AM (IDypm)
Better you than me, pal.
Posted by: Ted Kennedy at July 22, 2013 08:46 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 23, 2013 12:40 AM (4Mv1T)
true dat, and I am a Dylan fiend to the molecular level. Jimi owned that. I sometimes ponder what it would have been like if Jimi and Janis and (my personal fave) Gram had stuck with us for even just a little bit longer.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:46 PM (8lmkt)
who could forget the great exhortation from the much lamented and very much rather late Alexander Hamilton who said, It's not tyranny we desire; it's a just, limited, federal government. oh wait or did he really say hey you know what I have KIDS sven...fuck it let's spend a spare trillion or more per annum and let the good times roll!?!
so pop a lithium or three and have a good evening and remember...Santa Claus will come any day now and prove Detroit and the "glorious paradises in the wonderful Urban Centers" are the wave of the future....
so keep on hoping and it changing is for its own sake rather said changes are for the better or not is a grand thing comrades....
night-o all
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 08:47 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 08:47 PM (XyrkB)
It was, after all, the first book King got through the publishers ("The Long Walk" and "Blaze" got published later, as Bachman books) and King didn't quite know how to use irony or humour back then.
Now there's a remake coming out, "more true to the book", which is interesting because King himself has more or less ceded his original book to DePalma: http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/05/20/stephen-king-carrie-remake/
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 22, 2013 08:48 PM (d7tB2)
I was just recently in Howell for a family gathering. And I got to see the great wall of booze there. A wonderful thing.
http://jonnasmarket.com/store.htm
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 08:48 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 22, 2013 08:49 PM (lKfQG)
I assure you my contribution will be far less frequent.
I suspect even with these my PPD for today was sub 50.
I cede the battlescape to the hopers...
Santa Claud *will* save us....adding 10+ trillion USD to the national debt in less than a decade simply *must* be the "new normal."
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 08:49 PM (LRFds)
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You will want to talk to someone in your state. Health/accident is licensed by state.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 23, 2013 12:37 AM (4Mv1T)
I was thinking of something more like "insurance tourism". I currently live in California, and the very first words out of every newly-hatched bureaucrat's mouth are "BOHICA".
If you could fly to the Bahamas, buy an annual $20K catastrophic health policy (perhaps with renewal by mail) and fly back to flip the bird to Obamacare, it would seem like a potentially very popular flight.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 08:49 PM (T1005)
those were some scary fuckin' times, they really were. my dad was down in Newark doing some kinda scientist work at the time and he was rocked right back on his heels, which is about all I remember of it. every day that goes by lately puts me back there, we are staring into the abyss right now, and the abyss is staring back and FUCK those who have done this to us, for no other reason than to line their pockets and secure their positions. makes me weep.
Posted by: Peaches at July 22, 2013 08:49 PM (8lmkt)
You are my friends...
...and the scotch is working. Good night.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 08:50 PM (4Mv1T)
Conservative economist Thomas Sowell once noted that before the riots, Detroit's black population had the highest rate of home-ownership of any black urban population in the country, and their unemployment rate was just 3.4 percent.
Welcome to Obamaville and victimhood.
Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2013 08:52 PM (8wXaO)
Posted by: Helen Thomas at July 23, 2013 12:15 AM (Vk2pI)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Posted by: Satan at July 23, 2013 12:37 AM (IDypm)
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right now, I bet Helen is doing Teddy the Drowner and his eyes are being held open like that Clockwork Orange scene. Satan called her to help punish him. She'll get hers later.
Posted by: jc at July 22, 2013 08:52 PM (PlzOe)
The 2014 Barky Choom Hopium Economic Plan with special aid from esteemed economist Justin Bieber....
Santa Claus is coming to town
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 08:52 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 22, 2013 08:54 PM (lKfQG)
I had hope...
the nation got the most donk lite person I trusted to take the economy seriously and chose Mocha Claus...
it seems anytime we cede any deference to their hysteria we lose.
At any rate keep on hoping folks....hope uh moves mountains I guess when the dutiful get up off their asses and move them.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 08:54 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian
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I've found the "shallow grave" threat to illicit more immediate responses.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 22, 2013 10:41 PM (4Mv1T)
Personally I always found a quiet reminder that I did have friends with 500 acres and a backhoe worked very well!
Posted by: Old Dog at July 22, 2013 08:55 PM (tQYJH)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 08:55 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Gingy at July 22, 2013 08:57 PM (aH+zP)
You are my friends...
...and the scotch is working. Good night.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 23, 2013 12:50 AM (4Mv1T)
--Yes. It's rum for me, though.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 08:57 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 08:59 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 09:00 PM (K+I6z)
When it is I have friends that are pig farmers is when you really get their attention.
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 09:00 PM (qo244)
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 12:57 AM (3VBXw)
Go Navy!
Posted by: Vendette at July 23, 2013 12:59 AM (K+I6z)
--Actually, it's duty-free Lamb's Palm Breeze.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 09:01 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 22, 2013 09:01 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 22, 2013 09:01 PM (Vk2pI)
Who run barter town?
Posted by: Master at July 22, 2013 09:01 PM (d7tB2)
Al-WaPo- Why No By Golly Ogabe's Pivot to "Duh Economy" doesn't really have any specific proposals...just yours suck GOP"
Yeah....thank God we are led by such men as these...and given that Chicago, Detroit, B'more, Philly et all suck them some SCOAMF I'm pretty sure the nation will look more like them than they will adopt things that work for our places like Texas...
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 22, 2013 09:01 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 09:05 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Peaches at July 23, 2013 12:49 AM (8lmkt)
They contained the riots only a few blocks from my father's store. A few years later somebody fired a 45 caliber bullet through the store window during the wee hours and it lodged into the side of a vending machine. Yeah he got out after that. Sometime in the very late 80's or early 90's I went with my brother to look at some car, and we went through this area that was pretty run down. My bro says see that store over there? I said the one painted purple and yellow that looks like a crack den? My bro says yeah, thats the old man's store. I couldn't believe it.
He then drives a bit on different roads when we left, and we get in front of some house. A nice old 2 story house with a second floor balcony. The place needed work, and there was literally a dude sitting on the front steps drinking from a bottle in a paper bag. I looked around and the street was shot, everything looked beat up. My brother says does THIS look familiar? I said well other than looking like the typical style house for the area, not really, why?
He shakes his head and says, THAT was grandma's house.
I was fucking speechless, the area looked nothing like I remembered it. I still can't believe it. I had great childhood memories in both those places, and they looked as foreign to me as pluto.
Posted by: Berserker at July 22, 2013 09:06 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 09:06 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 22, 2013 09:06 PM (lKfQG)
Posted by: Cowboy at July 22, 2013 09:06 PM (m5TOl)
Detroit riots can refer to:
The Detroit Race Riot (1863)The Detroit Race Riot (1943) - (June 20 - June 21, 1943)1967 Detroit riot - (July 23 - July 28, 1967)Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 09:06 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 23, 2013 12:54 AM (lKfQG)
Just to be abundantly clear, I'm talking about a "bootleg" plan purchased in order to avoid being regulated by a state or Federal government within the United States. 'Cause whenever governments get too frisky about anything being available, people start "smuggling". Have you heard of anything in the business regarding "insurance tourism"? I'm thinking that whoever starts it in just the right way has a good chance to seriously make money.
Besides the obvious, it would also allow folks to sleep better at night, knowing that their dollars were not paying for Sandra Fluke's contraception and that their personal health records weren't nicely available to government stooges should they ever feel like speaking their minds.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 09:06 PM (T1005)
I think there is a guy that posts here (and want's a blog) that has the solution if the states like Texas man up and take it. The 10th of something I think it is.
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 09:08 PM (qo244)
Detroit has a small city council of at-large members. Such councils have fallen out of favor because the at-large format often preclude blacks or Hispanics from becoming city council members. As Detroit spiraled downward its at-large council system soon precluded whites from political participation. The at-large council system also helped diffuse political responsibility for poor services. The lack of services combined with no effective political voice eventually stripped Detroit of both its white and its black middle class.
Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at July 22, 2013 09:08 PM (pgcms)
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 01:01 AM (3VBXw)
Good grief, I'm leaving the rum and lash softball and no one is hitting it...
Posted by: Vendette at July 23, 2013 01:06 AM (K+I6z)
--Sorry, but I'm playing it straight: You know Lamb's has a dark rum named "Navy," right?
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 09:09 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 09:10 PM (gwNM1)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 22, 2013 09:10 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 09:10 PM (K+I6z)
http://tinyurl.com/mxsg3et
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 23, 2013 01:10 AM (gwNM1)
BC right?
Posted by: Berserker at July 22, 2013 09:12 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 09:13 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 23, 2013 01:10 AM (d7tB2)
That is a real problem. Of course, who do you sue if Jon Fucking Corzine bet your entire commodity portfolio on black in his name?
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 09:13 PM (T1005)
You know that was Dylan's song first. He said that it now belonged to Jimi, because he made it his own.
Posted by: Tobacco Road
Knowing that was originally Dylan is like knowing that Fleetwood Mac's 1st #1 (albeit in England) was an instrumental blues jam and there were no vajayjays in the band. ;->
As for Watchtower, good on Dylan for acknowledging reality. It's the best cover song ever (IMO). (I do like Priest's cover of Mac's "Green Manalishi" a lot.)
Posted by: SFGoth at July 22, 2013 09:14 PM (KI9NH)
It's a Navy thing devoid of chicks so us homophobes are scared of riffing on it.
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 09:14 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Gingy at July 22, 2013 09:15 PM (aH+zP)
The table gives examples of representative groups and moves from "Left Fringe" to "Fringe Right." The first category is "Economic/class agenda."
Here's the breakdown:
Left Fringe: May 19th Communist Organization
Far Left: Communist Party, USA
Liberalism: AFSCME
Moderate Center: AFL/CIO
Conservatism: Teamsters Union
Far Right: Lyndon Larouche groups
Fringe Right: Posse Comitatus
:facepalm:
Posted by: Country Singer at July 22, 2013 09:15 PM (U22Yw)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 09:16 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 22, 2013 09:16 PM (gwNM1)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 09:18 PM (K+I6z)
Posted by: McGregor at July 22, 2013 09:18 PM (qo244)
Posted by: gracepmc at July 22, 2013 09:19 PM (rznx3)
Was the author of this textbook perhaps, Howard Zinn?
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 09:19 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 22, 2013 09:20 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 22, 2013 09:20 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2013 09:22 PM (8wXaO)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 22, 2013 09:23 PM (V1ZIU)
Are Posse Comitatus still around? I figured them as near-anarchists, and again, left / right doesn't quite work for them.
Far Right / Fringe Right would be monarchists, or piners after "Starship Troopers". Populist fascists and weirdos up in the mountains, not so much
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 22, 2013 09:24 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Vendette at July 22, 2013 09:24 PM (K+I6z)
Nope, it's one Howard Martin: Associate VP for Faculty Affairs and Development at Cal State Dominguez Hills. Previously worked as managing attorney for Fair Housing Partnership of Greater Pittsburgh, "where he was also director of a program created under a federal consent decree to desegregate public and assisted housing." Also served as Special Counsel to the AG of the USVI in the DoJ. Prior to that...legislative assistant to one Charlie Rangel.
Posted by: Country Singer at July 22, 2013 09:25 PM (U22Yw)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 22, 2013 09:25 PM (V1ZIU)
They don't spend a lot of time around conservatives (or reactionaries), do they?
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 22, 2013 09:26 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 01:01 AM
That's a damn dirty drink.
Posted by: mr lahey at July 22, 2013 09:26 PM (9gNQd)
If you could fly to the Bahamas, buy an annual $20K catastrophic health policy (perhaps with renewal by mail) and fly back to flip the bird to Obamacare, it would seem like a potentially very popular flight.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 23, 2013 12:49 AM (T1005)
Isn't there an insurance company that set up a hospital in India for the purpose of doing elective surgeries, and as part of the deal for the patient going over there for the surgery, they flew their family over and put them up in a hotel they built. The insurance company turned it into a mini vacation for the family. They said a hip replacement was half the cost doing it here, even with the added travel.
Plus, the hospitals were up to US standards and the doctors were all US trained.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 23, 2013 01:20 AM (BXLPR)
There is so much money being plundered and wasted and paid-off to patronage groups within Obamacare, that I could imagine a fleet of cruise ships sailing between Tijuana, Mexico and Vancouver, BC, for the express purpose of medivac'ing stabilized patients [and their families] out from the US to the ships for surgery and treatment, then flying them back when appropriate. Same for the East Coast between Halifax, NS and Nassau, Bahamas.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2013 09:27 PM (T1005)
Detroit riots can refer to:
The Detroit Race Riot (1863)The Detroit Race Riot (1943) - (June 20 - June 21, 1943)1967 Detroit riot - (July 23 - July 28, 1967)
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 01:06 AM (3VBXw)
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blaming the riots makes some sense, but it discounts the day-in, day-out shit that scum bring into a city. I have a friend that grew up in Detroit and he talks about he BKs, and how as a 12 y/o kid he was carrying a gun and trying to avoid 1 on 2, 3, or 4 fights every day because his skin wasn't dark enough for his neighborhood any more.
in short, you can get over a riot if that is actually the end of the bullshit, but bullshit doesn't just go away by itself.
Posted by: jc at July 22, 2013 09:30 PM (PlzOe)
That and the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees being "Moderate Center."
Posted by: Country Singer at July 22, 2013 09:30 PM (U22Yw)
Posted by: Country Singer at July 23, 2013 01:15 AM (U22Yw)
The standard Left/Right spectrum isn't a very good model of the US.
My preferred model is a triangle, with "Equality", "Rule of Law" and "Personal Freedom" at angles A, B, and C, respectively. Republicans would run the spectrum along edge BC (Rule of Law/Personal Freedom), while Democrats ran the spectrum along edge AC (Equality/Personal Freedom). Socialists would fill in the final edge, AB (Equality/Rule of Law). The idea is that every edge represents two core values in conflict, while the opposite angle is the value that is ignored. For example: Republicans run the gamut from the Rule of Law types (conservatives) to the extreme Personal Freedom types (libertarians).
Posted by: Dow Corning at July 22, 2013 09:31 PM (lr3d7)
That's all less and less significant as the US declines into Third World status.
Any time that someone talks up the excellence of American physicians, I ask them to look up the qualifications of the applicant who was originally let into medical school in Allan Bakke's place. Horrifyingly substandard.
No advanced country should have ever given that person a medical school slot.
America not only gives persons of such dubious accomplishment their slots in medical school, it dutifully shepherds them through, and then hands them medical licenses.
See also GOSNELL, Kermit.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 22, 2013 09:33 PM (gqT4g)
Nope, it's one Howard Martin: Associate VP for Faculty Affairs and Development at Cal State Dominguez Hills. Previously worked as managing attorney for Fair Housing Partnership of Greater Pittsburgh, "where he was also director of a program created under a federal consent decree to desegregate public and assisted housing." Also served as Special Counsel to the AG of the USVI in the DoJ. Prior to that...legislative assistant to one Charlie Rangel.
Posted by: Country Singer at July 23, 2013 01:25 AM (U22Yw)
Sounds solid to me. You should absolutely trust everything he says.
Posted by: Howard Zinn at July 22, 2013 09:33 PM (T1005)
Lefty elites want everyone to move into the cities, but forget that middle class people can't afford the high taxes, the yoga studios, organic grocery marts, 10 dollar hipster donuts, or other shit that's chump change to trust fund kids or lawyers.
Supposedly living in a cramped flat that's walking distance to a gay porn art museum or fusion restaurant with 20 dollar appetizers is supposed to be a magnet for those living paycheck to paycheck.
Of course if you can't afford to live there, you have not only the taxes politicians levy on you, but the "street taxes" suffered through losses incurred through theft, vandalism, and high insurance rates
Posted by: kbdabear at July 23, 2013 12:30 AM
We must strive to settle in a safer neighborhood, one with better schools and a stronger local economic matrix which will not tax us to death.
Posted by: beldar conehead at July 22, 2013 09:34 PM (9gNQd)
That sounds like the diagram of female traits I saw once:
https://tinyurl.com/mufv3ud
Posted by: Country Singer at July 22, 2013 09:35 PM (U22Yw)
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 01:01 AM
That's a damn dirty drink.
Posted by: mr lahey at July 23, 2013 01:26 AM (9gNQd)
--Wasn't 88 marked as "Ray" among the shitmoths?
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 09:35 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 22, 2013 09:36 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 22, 2013 09:38 PM (Vk2pI)
^^^ Good gravy, but does that son g remind me of my little tyke self sitting placidly in the back seat of the 'rents' car driving around.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 09:38 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 22, 2013 09:40 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 01:35 AM
Dunno. I was drunk at the time. But, probably. I just know Ray is the shit king of the shit moths. He's like a shit mothman of shit. He's the shit harbinger of shit.
Posted by: mr lahey at July 22, 2013 09:40 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 22, 2013 09:41 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 22, 2013 09:41 PM (Vk2pI)
That sounds like the diagram of female traits I saw once:
https://tinyurl.com/mufv3ud
Posted by: Country Singer at July 23, 2013 01:35 AM (U22Yw)
It started out as a "pick two" comment and then grew from there.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 22, 2013 09:41 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: mr lahey at July 23, 2013 01:40 AM (9gNQd)
And Ricky's being refractory again!
Posted by: Randy at July 22, 2013 09:42 PM (3VBXw)
the main pittsburgh area (allegheny, washington, westmoreland co.) took a gut punch like a mofo from the 60s onward, it still hasnt fully recovered but i was proud to look around and see how much the ol' place has kept itself up. maybe detroit really can learn from it. even youngstown. ohio wasn't the nigthtmare some people make it out to be...
could be hope for detroit yet right?....yeah, prolly not. oh well, fuck em.
Posted by: southern by the grace of I-95 at July 22, 2013 09:44 PM (DnIpv)
On Monday, U.S. Representative John Conyers (D-Michigan), who was against Federal troop deployment, attempted to ease tensions by driving along 12th Street with a loudspeaker asking people to return to their homes.[16] Reportedly, Conyers stood on the hood of the car and shouted through a bullhorn, "We're with you! But, please! This is not the way to do things! Please go back to your homes!" But the crowd refused to listen. Conyers' car was pelted with rocks and bottles.[17]
Posted by: logprof, veteran of the barrel at July 22, 2013 09:48 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Kalneva at July 23, 2013 01:36 AM (XyrkB)
**********
I saw the Gutfeld tweet also but didn't get to see if he mentioned it on The Five. However, I'm up and there is a repeat of The Five soon and if not then maybe Red Eye. I never want to see that selfie again and if Gutfeld fails to mention it that's just plain odd. Maybe Jerry is holed in that weird bank vault.
Posted by: gracepmc at July 22, 2013 09:49 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 22, 2013 09:52 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Random at July 22, 2013 09:54 PM (fjwW8)
Posted by: Randy at July 23, 2013 01:42 AM
Fuck off, Randy.
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 01:50 AM (9gNQd)
You're goin' back to Con College, Ricky!
Posted by: Jim Lahey at July 22, 2013 09:55 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Randy at July 23, 2013 01:42 AM
I don't know if you've seen this, Randy... It's a shit interview with 3 of the shitmoths. They've been spreading their shit routine like a shit virus. They're the ebola of shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOtO5Z2dhRM
Posted by: mr lahey at July 22, 2013 09:58 PM (9gNQd)
National IQs assessed by the Progressive Matrices were calculated for 60 nations and examined in relation to per capita incomes in the late 1990s and to post World War Two rates of economic growth. It was found that national IQs are correlated at 0.757 with real GDP (Gross Domestic Product) per capita 1998 and 0.706 with per capita GNP (Gross National Product) 1998; and at 0.605 with the growth of per capita GDP 1950-90 and 0.643 with growth of per capita GNP 1976-98. The results are interpreted in terms of a causal model in which population IQs are the major determinant of the wealth and poverty of nations in the contemporary world.
http://is.gd/eaeMIe
Posted by: Random at July 23, 2013 01:54 AM (fjwW
=====
http://tinyurl.com/mvbjm7w
Posted by: jc at July 22, 2013 10:01 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Jim Lahey at July 23, 2013 01:55 AM
Make like a tree and fuck off, Lahey.
Posted by: ricky at July 22, 2013 10:05 PM (9gNQd)
However, IQ tests are raaaaaaayyyyyyycist.
So you can't use them in employment. _Griggs v. Duke Power_.
Posted by: Love, the Supreme Court at July 22, 2013 10:07 PM (gqT4g)
495 gracepmc
Fuck! The Five rerun is all about the fuckin' Royal Babee! Why do we care about this? I would think it would be a small blurb. I don't get it at all. MSNBC, yeah, cuz they're stupid. But the five? Really?
Posted by: kalneva at July 22, 2013 10:07 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Jim Lahey at July 23, 2013 01:55 AM
Make like a tree and fuck off, Lahey.
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 02:05 AM (9gNQd)
I've got something you'll never have, Ricky:
My Grade 11.
Posted by: Mr. Lahey at July 22, 2013 10:09 PM (3VBXw)
Oh, are they being ironic? No, they're still going.
Posted by: kalneva at July 22, 2013 10:09 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 22, 2013 10:11 PM (yoh1c)
My Grade 11.
Posted by: Mr. Lahey at July 23, 2013 02:09 AM
Nobody's repressed by your high school evacation, Lahey.
Posted by: ricky at July 22, 2013 10:14 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 10:20 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Mr. Lahey at July 23, 2013 02:09 AM
Nobody's repressedby your high school evacation, Lahey.
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 02:14 AM (9gNQd)
Fuck off I got work to do!
Posted by: Cyrus at July 22, 2013 10:26 PM (3VBXw)
Such as massive norovirus outbreaks.
Uncontrollable diarrhea and projectile vomiting AT THE SAME TIME.
"Turning one into a hospital would be a great idea."
It would be necessary to restaff the entire ship with crewmembers who understand the fundamental concepts of infectious disease. Clearly not the case at present aboard the typical cruise liner.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 22, 2013 10:29 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Jean at July 22, 2013 10:31 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 10:36 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 22, 2013 10:36 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 22, 2013 10:37 PM (yoh1c)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 23, 2013 02:20 AM (vgd4f)
Doesn't take much to switch to other forms of entertainment. I'm barely here myself.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 23, 2013 02:36 AM (yoh1c)
--Okay, what is the fight? Despite posting continuously here, I fail to see it. Am I too drunk?
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 10:41 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 10:42 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2013 10:44 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 10:45 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Filner at July 22, 2013 10:45 PM (hd2t/)
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 10:49 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Robert Mugabe at July 22, 2013 10:51 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: buzzion at July 23, 2013 02:44 AM (LI48c)
--Is it the LIB fight from earlier? Too buzzed to want to go back a thread.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 10:52 PM (3VBXw)
--Is it the LIB fight from earlier? Too buzzed to want to go back a thread.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 02:52 AM (3VBXw)
The Randy Ricky Lahey stuff I think.
Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2013 10:54 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Random at July 22, 2013 10:55 PM (fjwW8)
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 02:52 AM (3VBXw)
The Randy Ricky Lahey stuff I think.
Posted by: buzzion at July 23, 2013 02:54 AM (LI48c)
--LMAO People are getting ginned up over a JFSAG sockpuppet fight (one which, I must add, has occurred before) between fictional Trailer Park Boys characters???
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 10:56 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 10:58 PM (vgd4f)
http://tpbcentral.com/
Posted by: Ricky at July 22, 2013 11:00 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 23, 2013 02:58 AM (vgd4f)
--Seriously, though, for your own edification, you really oughta check out TPB. http://tpbcentral.com/
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 11:01 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 11:05 PM (vgd4f)
OMG, sorry, did not realize it was bs.
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 23, 2013 02:58 AM
Hahahaha! That would have been weird. Sorry.
Posted by: otho at July 22, 2013 11:06 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 11:08 PM (vgd4f)
Fuck! The Five rerun is all about the fuckin' Royal Babee! Why do we care about this? I would think it would be a small blurb. I don't get it at all. MSNBC, yeah, cuz they're stupid. But the five? Really?
Posted by: kalneva at July 23, 2013 02:07 AM (XyrkB)
********* On RedEye -- total softball on Jerry Rivers. Pretty much about what good shape he was in. Guess it's ok for thee but not for me kind of thing. Pretty disappointing for Gutfeld and Fox. And I must say, hypocritical.
Posted by: gracepmc at July 22, 2013 11:11 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 11:14 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: D. Hopper at July 22, 2013 11:22 PM (UsR5V)
Posted by: gracepmc at July 23, 2013 03:11 AM (rznx3)
--Seriously, FNC would get a serious leg up on the rest of the MBM if they fired his ass, even if he were replaced by another libtard. Wasted opportunity.
Posted by: Lahey at July 22, 2013 11:26 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Random at July 22, 2013 11:28 PM (fjwW8)
Posted by: Random at July 22, 2013 11:35 PM (fjwW8)
Of course, individuals vary within groups. But there are also variances between groups. It could hardly be the case otherwise, if natural selection is true.
This does not mean we can't love, marry, elect, befriend, go into business with, etc., anyone of any ancestry ... certainly I would do any or all of the above with anyone I liked as did my (mixed-race) ancestors ... but one needn't shut off one's mind and pretend there are no non-cosmetic, non-purely-medical genetic differences between peoples.
There are.
Posted by: Random at July 23, 2013 03:28 AM (fjwW
--Borrrrrrrrrr-ring!
Seriously, we don't care. Whether it's true or not is less important than the political implications.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 11:35 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 11:39 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Random at July 22, 2013 11:41 PM (fjwW8)
Posted by: phunctor at July 22, 2013 11:42 PM (aG9Vk)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 22, 2013 11:43 PM (9GG/0)
getting ready for classes yet?
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 03:42 AM (9GG/0)
--No, but I should be. Too swamped with babeh problems. 
I'm taking on a new class and need to put it together in the next couple of weeks.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 11:45 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 11:45 PM (vgd4f)
and yeah I have a new class too I need to get my butt in gear and start working on
actually I have two new classes this year, one in fall and one in spring
Posted by: chemjeff at July 22, 2013 11:46 PM (9GG/0)
So it must be down to a brisk 99 degrees then, right?
Posted by: chemjeff at July 22, 2013 11:46 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Random at July 22, 2013 11:48 PM (fjwW8)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 22, 2013 11:49 PM (9GG/0)
and yeah I have a new class too I need to get my butt in gear and start working on
actually I have two new classes this year, one in fall and one in spring
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 03:46 AM (9GG/0)
--Health issues.
My load is crazy, I have 3 this fall and 1 in spring. I guess it's for the best since I'll be on the job market in the spring.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 11:50 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 11:50 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: backhoe at July 22, 2013 11:52 PM (ULH4o)
you are looking for a new job? where are you looking at?
lou, I didn't think the humidity ever got so bad where you are at. Must be global warming eh?
Posted by: chemjeff at July 22, 2013 11:52 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 11:54 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Random at July 22, 2013 11:54 PM (fjwW8)
Another great article from Larry Correia, this one on profiling and standing your ground. http://tinyurl.com/lwucfv3
Posted by: Proudly lurking since 2009 at July 22, 2013 11:55 PM (tWT9y)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 22, 2013 11:55 PM (vgd4f)
you are looking for a new job? where are you looking at?
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 03:52 AM (9GG/0)
--Prefer Canada, but it may be a beggars-can't-be-choosers scenario.
Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2013 11:55 PM (3VBXw)
Posted by: epobirs at July 22, 2013 11:57 PM (kcfmt)
But the results of your studies wouldn't lead in that direction.
And being realistic and knowledgeable about them can lead to better understanding and even ability to provide for the others' wellbeing.
Not really, because what you are describing is all statistical. If your tribe is, on average, dumber than my tribe, it doesn't necessarily follow that you are dumber than me.
Posted by: chemjeff at July 22, 2013 11:59 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 12:00 AM (9GG/0)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 04:00 AM (9GG/0)
--Precisely.
We've had enough incursions from them.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 12:02 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 23, 2013 12:03 AM (Wk9TK)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 04:01 AM (9GG/0)
--I hope so. Neither my wife nor the babeh deserve it.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 12:03 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 04:03 AM (3VBXw)
well, that is for sure.
hey, why not Belize?
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 12:04 AM (9GG/0)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 12:05 AM (9GG/0)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 04:05 AM (9GG/0)
--I think you still need a passport to enter Belize, whatever your nationality. There have been constant rumors of Canada merging with the Turks and Caicos Islands (currently some sort of UK overseas territory), and I am all for that.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 12:13 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 12:16 AM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Random at July 23, 2013 12:16 AM (vI9yy)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 04:16 AM (9GG/0)
--Yeah, as I said it's a passing fancy. They would not be another province, but nevertheless no passport required to go there. Nice to fly from YYZ or YUL straight to the Caribbean with no passport.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 12:22 AM (3VBXw)
I am avoiding steak and potatoes at the moment ... the heat from firing up the oven is unbearable and the heat outside where the grill is, is worse ...
but I got some pulled pork that can get popped into the microwave : -))
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 23, 2013 04:03 AM (Wk9TK)
I've been to http://www.southernliving.com/travel/south-east/lexington-barbecue-north-carolina-00400000062325/ -- I'm pretty sure that stuff doesn't belong in a microwave.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 23, 2013 12:22 AM (T1005)
Even if your hypothesis is correct - then what? How do you use your new information in a way to make people's lives better that doesn't also result in an explicitly racist outcome?
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 12:28 AM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 23, 2013 12:30 AM (Wk9TK)
Posted by: Random at July 23, 2013 12:33 AM (fjwW8)
Posted by: epobirs at July 23, 2013 12:34 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 04:28 AM (9GG/0)
--Why are you wasting your time? It's even more fruitless than dealing wit a trill, because at least the troll does not believe it's on our side. . . .
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 12:34 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 12:35 AM (9GG/0)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 12:36 AM (9GG/0)
It's even more fruitless than dealing with a troll, because at least the troll does not believe it's on our side. . . .
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 12:36 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Random at July 23, 2013 12:36 AM (fjwW8)
Posted by: Random at July 23, 2013 12:38 AM (fjwW8)
I'm not on your side or not on your side. I'm interested in truth. And to just ignore the changing demographics of Detroit over the last 60 years is not a viable methodology for reaching a full understanding of what is happening.
Posted by: Random at July 23, 2013 04:36 AM (fjwW
--Party is more to the point than race. Race talk is fucking old to me.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 12:40 AM (3VBXw)
Suppose you do prove that, say, differences in wealth are due to differences in biology. THEN WHAT? How are you going to act upon that in a non-racist manner?
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 12:41 AM (9GG/0)
Posted by: epobirs at July 23, 2013 04:34 AM (kcfmt)
Hah!
Seriously, though.....I know they exist, but I never see them.....
Posted by: cthulhu at July 23, 2013 12:41 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Mr Lahey at July 23, 2013 03:38 AM
Hey, Lahey...
Knock, knock.
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 12:44 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 04:35 AM (9GG/0)
Milton had it in the 1600s: “Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.” Wealth means little without a ruler -- and you need inequality to have one.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 23, 2013 12:45 AM (T1005)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 12:46 AM (9GG/0)
Fuck off.
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 04:46 AM (9gNQd)
Sounds great coming from a *janitor*.
Posted by: James Lahey at July 23, 2013 12:49 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 04:46 AM (9GG/0)
--You need to watch Trailer Park Boys, apparently.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 12:50 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 23, 2013 04:47 AM
Oh, come on. Let's watch a video, smoke some weed and get drunk as fuck.
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 12:50 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: James Lahey at July 23, 2013 04:49 AM
Hey, those school kids buy heaps of weed. It's awesome.
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 12:52 AM (9gNQd)
Random, no more racial discussions or you will be banned.
Because we're all intellectual cowards here.
And because you're way too excited about racial differences and we don't want to attract any Stormfronters or others of their ilk.
Posted by: Mætenloch at July 23, 2013 12:52 AM (XkotV)
Posted by: otho at July 23, 2013 12:54 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: James Lahey at July 23, 2013 04:49 AM
Hey, those school kids buy heaps of weed. It's awesome.
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 04:52 AM (9gNQd)
Would you fuck off, Ricky? Stay away from Lucy and Trinity.
Posted by: Sarah at July 23, 2013 12:55 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: otho at July 23, 2013 04:54 AM (9gNQd)
Let the liquor do the thinking.
Posted by: Jim lahey, Sunnyvale Trailer Park Supervisor at July 23, 2013 12:56 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Sarah at July 23, 2013 04:55 AM
I bet you're banging those dicks, Corey and Trevor, aren't you? You got the hots for them. And Lucy better not be banging Randy.
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 01:02 AM (9gNQd)
It's about as good an argument for government death squads waging class warfare as I've ever seen.
Posted by: epobirs at July 23, 2013 01:04 AM (kcfmt)
Lucy: There are kids that live here, for god's sake? You know, children, family?
Ricky: I'm a hell of a lot better father than you'll ever fuckin' be.
Lucy: You have no idea how stupid you are, do you?
Ricky: Actually, yes I do.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 01:10 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Randy at July 23, 2013 01:15 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Cakefinger at July 23, 2013 01:15 AM (OsCtd)
Posted by: otho at July 23, 2013 01:16 AM (9gNQd)
Julian: "Hey boys, where did you find all these "girls"..."
Corey and Trevor: "We handed out flyers at this new club... It's called "The Empty Closet"..."
Posted by: otho at July 23, 2013 01:18 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Julian at July 23, 2013 01:21 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Bubbles at July 23, 2013 01:24 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Julian at July 23, 2013 05:21 AM
You gonns take your shirt off, Julian? You gonna do some dirty dancing are you, Patrick Swayze?
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 01:24 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: ricky at July 23, 2013 05:24 AM (9gNQd)
He's the fuckin' man they caaalll--all . . . Ra-veeee-eeeenn!
Posted by: Conky at July 23, 2013 01:26 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: T at July 23, 2013 01:30 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: otho at July 23, 2013 01:37 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: otho at July 23, 2013 05:37 AM (9gNQd)
--'Night, otho!
Beware the winds of shit.
Posted by: T at July 23, 2013 01:39 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: epobirs at July 23, 2013 04:34 AM (kcfmt)
ha. not sure where you are but look in Whole Foods. Harris Teeter has them too, those fucking mutant, big enough for a meal potatoes.
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 23, 2013 01:42 AM (pdeHH)
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 23, 2013 01:47 AM (pdeHH)
YIKES!!! looks like I missed out on...something.
anyway, MESSENGER (orbiting Mercury) also took a picture of the Earth the same day as Cassini.
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 23, 2013 01:54 AM (pdeHH)
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 01:55 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Mætenloch at July 23, 2013 02:09 AM (XkotV)
Yes. Random is banned from here, and has been banned under more than one nic.So any cob logger, feel free to ban his ass once again.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 23, 2013 02:02 AM (cHZB7)
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 23, 2013 02:03 AM (pdeHH)
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 23, 2013 06:03 AM (pdeHH)
--I love it. On the Esquire site one tack I am taking is that it is funny how libtards become so un-libertime when it comes to dirty oil springing rom the earth. Dog, they should be open to free expression and oil going forth wherever, regardless of origins or "dirtiness."
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 02:08 AM (3VBXw)
and this is up at NR...Community organizers will use a Federal Data Hub to sign up people for subsidies — and even ballots.
that was a mighty big easter egg in Ocare. good grief they'll be even more annoying than Census workers knocking on your door.
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 23, 2013 02:12 AM (pdeHH)
up to 1000 local Nauruan men carrying machetes and steel pipes arrived to help police armed with batons and shields prevent the mostly Iranian asylum seekers from breaking out.
Seems there was a riot. Visas were not being processed fast enough so they rioted, burning down the buildings they live in. Now they will live in tents, while they wait for their visa to be denied.
Sydney Morning Herald
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lvnau8l
Posted by: News Reader at July 23, 2013 02:14 AM (fAPr2)
logprof-
good to hear. doesn't CA have a similar issue in places-natural seepage...and drilling would actually benefit the environment.
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 23, 2013 02:16 AM (pdeHH)
logprof-
good to hear. doesn't CA havea similarissue in places-natural seepage...and drilling would actually benefit the environment.
Posted by: rich@gmu at July 23, 2013 06:16 AM (pdeHH)
--Dream on.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 02:20 AM (3VBXw)
This one complains about inept or indifferent government response and the governments decision to deny asylum.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l6fug6z
and from CNN
http://preview.tinyurl.com/m7p57gu
Apparently those who are denied asylum end up on an (apparently nearly uninhabited) insland in New Guinea
http://preview.tinyurl.com/m7p57gu
I would what happens when Australia runs out of islands?
I'm beginning to suspect that 'long pig' will be a menu item in the near future as it was in the past in that part of the pacific.
Posted by: News Reader at July 23, 2013 02:28 AM (fAPr2)
The whole saga of Detroit is such a tangled, implacable mess that nothing can truly solve it.
--Of course, liberal Democrats, of course.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 02:29 AM (3VBXw)
Posted by: Steve at July 23, 2013 02:37 AM (Hdoq+)
Officials say these are largely urban Iranians who profess dissatisfaction with the conservative religious leaders and who often have a sophisticated knowledge of the systems to arrange a boat passage to Australia. They say these more affluent Iranians tend to be more demanding and volatile than those from other nations. .
The Indonesian government will next month end its visa-on-arrival scheme, which Australia said was encouraging Iranians to fly to Jakarta and then take a boat to Australia.
The Australian
http://preview.tinyurl.com/motlg8o
Posted by: News Reader at July 23, 2013 02:38 AM (fAPr2)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/motlg8o
Posted by: News Reader at July 23, 2013 06:38 AM (fAPr2)
--Log-in required.
Fuck it.
Posted by: logprof at July 23, 2013 02:43 AM (3VBXw)
go through google, somehow a referral from google gets through the paywall
there is also a Time Magazine article. Seems there has been quite a few news stories in the past few days on the subject
Australian asylum seekers
boat people
nauru riot
christmas island riot
It's reported that 3,000 asylum seekers each month are trying to get into Australia.
Posted by: News Reader at July 23, 2013 02:50 AM (fAPr2)
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Yeah, well, NO's still got tourism. ("An entire economy based on T-shirts," as the so-called "Recovery Czar" called it during his year or so here. He was right.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 23, 2013 08:19 AM (BDU/a)
One important point: His portraits of the city are kinder than it deserves. Another point: It's clear the City Council has other, bigger worries than their PR.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 23, 2013 08:23 AM (BDU/a)
By Paul Kersey on July 21, 2013 at 11:13pm
One man understands what the bankruptcy of Detroit represents—in an op-ed, he has cut to the heart of what the Motor City symbolizes.
- It’s not Heritage Foundation President Jim DeMint, who lamented that “50 years of liberal policies” had doomed Detroit [Morning Bell: Jim DeMint’s First Day As Heritage President, Heritage Foundation, April 4, 2013].
- Sorry, Dr. Tim Stanley (who wrote an interesting biography on Patrick J. Buchanan), but 51 years of voting for Democrats doesn’t quite explain the fall of the Paris of the West either [Detroit bankruptcy – this is what happens if you vote Democrat for 51 years, Daily Telegraph, July 20, 2013]
- Nor is it Kevin D. Williamson of National Review— not for the first time, he fails to mention the elephant in the room when purportedly describing Detroit’s decline [Detroit Goes Down: A lesson for American cities, July 19, 2013].
- Nor Dave Hodges, host of something called The Commonsense Show, who wields what Steve Sailer has called “Occam’s Butterknife” to obfuscate Detroit’s demise [Who Killed Detroit City and Why?, CommonSense Show, July 18, 2013]. (Funny, because the motto of Hodges’ show is: Freeing America, One Enslaved Mind at a Time. And nothing, nothing, emancipates us from the dogma of racial denial than contemplating the bankruptcy of Detroit in 2013).
That one man: Black studies professor Dr. R. LÂ’Heureux Lewis, who published Abandon Detroit, Abandon Black America back on June 2, 2010 at the now defunct black paper, the Atlanta Post.
http://tinyurl.com/oy45usk
Moral courage. Intellectual honesty. Give joining this intelligent, courageous, and truthful professor it a try!
Posted by: Random at July 25, 2013 11:58 AM (OwV/b)
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Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at July 22, 2013 06:27 PM (HVff2)