September 12, 2013
— Maetenloch
The Most Surprising Things About America, According To An Indian International Student
In our day to day lives there are assumptions and expectations so deeply embedded in American society that we don't even recognize them as such - the cultural waters that we swim in without any awareness. So it's always interesting to hear the observations of a foreigner who's lived here long enough to get past the easy superficial observations but not so long that they've stopped noticing the water.
And Aniruddh Chaturvedi who came from Mumbai to study computer science at Carnegie Mellon University and interned last summer in Silicon Valley is that guy.
And in his view these are some of the most surprising things about the US:
- Nobody talks about grades here.
- US Flag displayed everywhere: I was surprised to see that the US flag is displayed in schools, on rooftops of houses, etc. India has very strict rules governing the display and use of the national flag. Also, something that struck out to me was how it was completely normal to wear the US flag or a US flag-like pattern as a bikini.
- Strong ethics - everyone has a lot of integrity. If someone cannot submit their completed assignment in time, they will turn in the assignment incomplete rather than asking for answers at the last minute. People take pride in their hard work and usually do not cheat. This is different from students from India and China as well as back home in India, where everyone collaborates to the extent that it can be categorized as cheating.
- Rich people are thin/ well maintained, poor people are fat. This stems from the fact that cheap food is fatty, rich people don't eat cheap food - they tend to eat either home-cooked food which is expensive or eat at expensive / healthy places. Unfortunately, it is expensive to be healthy in America.
- An almost-classless society: I've noticed that most Americans roughly have the same standard of living. Everybody has access to ample food, everybody shops at the same supermarkets, malls, stores, etc. I've seen plumbers, construction workers and janitors driving their own sedans, which was quite difficult for me to digest at first since I came from a country where construction workers and plumbers lived hand to mouth.
and worst of all:
- Girls are not very promiscuous, contrary to most Hollywood films
"Liberals pick and choose their discriminations. Financial, bureaucratic, and academic distinctions are acceptable, while natural and traditional ones are not. You can choose a Yale man over a Harvard man-the schools are a bit different, so their products may differ-but not a Yale man over a Yale woman. Engineers can earn more than janitors, and Chinese-Americans than the Scotch-Irish, but if schools discipline blacks more than whites, that is a gap that must be closed.
The idea, it seems, is that there is something odd and irrelevant about distinctions such as sex, family, kinship, culture, and religion that makes it wrong for them to have material consequences, unless the consequences disrupt the effect of such distinctions in general. People seem to think the principle is obvious, so it is never explained, but the idea seems to be that the informal social hierarchies and the traditional patterns of conduct and belief that related to them have no legitimate functions. We should, it appears, carry on our lives exclusively through relationships that are either strictly private and idiosyncratic or contractual and bureaucratic."
If You'd Had a Good Day and Aren't Feeling Murderous, Don't Follow This Link
And don't hover over it either. Yeah I know your tricks.
Faces of Meth (and Leftist Politics)
"At 50, everyone has the face he deserves."
-- George Orwell
Can You Spot the Contradictions and Logic Gaps in This Video?
The Unhappy Traveling Salesman Problem
The classic Computer Science Travelling Salesman Problem is NP-style hard. And it's even harder when you have to worry whether the salesman is happy or not.
People are also emotional, and it turns out an unhappy truck driver can be trouble. Modern routing models incorporate whether a truck driver is happy or not -- something he may not know about himself.
...In other words, the traveling salesman problem grows considerably more complex when you actually have to think about the happiness of the salesman. And, not only do you have to know when he's unhappy, you have to know if your model might make him unhappy. Warren Powell, director of the Castle Laboratory at Princeton University's Department of Operations Research and Financial Engineering, has optimized transportation companies from Netjets to Burlington Northern. He recalls how, at Yellow Freight company, "we were doing things with drivers -- they said, you just can't do that." There were union rules, there was industry practice. Tractors can be stored anywhere, humans like to go home at night. "I said we're going to need a file with 2,000 rules. Trucks are simple; drivers are complicated."
How The Alien Chestbuster Worked
Reviewing the Top Films of 1972
Holy shit. I am at a loss for words - this may be the most badass movie of all time. The action is relentless, gritty, and filmed with a flair of genius. This is a shining example of the Italian crime cinema genre known as poliziotteschi. But don't shy away because it's a foreign taste; this has the muscle to stand up to any American crime film. Just as the Spaghetti Western was Italy's answer to the American cowboy movie, the poliziotteschi is their answer to the American crime drama.
Tarantino used Woody Strode and Henry Silva (above) as the inspiration for the Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta characters in Pulp Fiction. Plus, Femi Benussi gets naked, there's prostitutes to rough up, heroin to sell, and lots of scantily clad hippies dancing. The whole thing is like a frantic fever dream; it just doesn't let up, and manages to maintain a state of "kick assery" the duration of the film.
Okay now I gotta track down and watch this oeuvre de badassery. The good news is that there's a torrent for it.
The Professor is a Cheerleader
Okay will be a professor once her thesis is done and she's tired of being a Titans cheerleader:
Bimolecular doctoral candidates don't just try out and make professional cheerleading squads just because "they have extra time on their hands."
Jessica decided the only way to top simultaneously earning her bachelor and masters engineering degrees is to moonlight as a professional cheerlady while pursing her doctorate in Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering.
Yahoo group. That is all.
The group thingy. And the middle class.
And my Twitter spew.
Plus the Yahoo group.
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Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 12, 2013 06:30 PM (MnSla)
Posted by: Elvis at September 12, 2013 06:30 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 12, 2013 06:32 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: Helen Thomas at September 12, 2013 06:32 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: AltonJackson & his 50yo face is on the road again at September 12, 2013 06:33 PM (DCC9P)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 12, 2013 06:33 PM (MnSla)
Byron York @ByronYork 6m
MT @williamsjon: Explosion followed by gunfire outside US consulate in Herat, Afghanistan. Fighting between insurgents & security forces.
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 12, 2013 06:33 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 06:33 PM (HVff2)
At least the security forces are fighting against the Talibs this time. Progress!
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 12, 2013 06:34 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 12, 2013 06:34 PM (QTKGF)
--Speaking as a prof with a lot of Chinese students, I agree.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 06:35 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 12, 2013 06:35 PM (YD2FC)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 12, 2013 06:35 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Splunge at September 12, 2013 06:36 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 06:36 PM (HVff2)
--Here, he's projecting India to the USA. In India, it's cheap as hell to eat out, but in the Sates and Canada, it costs more than eating food prepared at home.
Posted by: Beavis and Butt-Head at September 12, 2013 06:37 PM (bufJH)
Yeah, keep telling yourself that
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo, checkin' out interracial dating statistics at September 12, 2013 06:37 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Splunge at September 12, 2013 06:37 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: logprof can't resist at September 12, 2013 06:38 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Mr. Plinkett at September 12, 2013 06:38 PM (Dsds2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzFnYcIqj6I
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 12, 2013 10:31 PM (d7tB2)
Hope you're stayin' well-drained!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 06:38 PM (T1005)
BREAKING: U.S. Consulate in Afghanistan Under Attack http://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-u-s-consulate-in-afghanistan-under-attack/ Â… via @mediaite
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 12, 2013 06:38 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at September 12, 2013 06:39 PM (2vl2+)
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 12, 2013 06:39 PM (qRasw)
US consulate in Afghanistan reportedly under attack; Suicide attack suspected
http://tinyurl.com/mnm6tc6
Posted by: kbdabear at September 12, 2013 06:39 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 06:40 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 06:40 PM (doBIb)
--Well, I imagine now that trucks are equipped with (King of the Hill reference) "tattlers" that has made the drivers unhappier as well.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 06:41 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Splunge at September 12, 2013 06:42 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Dr Randy Jewels at September 12, 2013 06:42 PM (qRasw)
Posted by: fluffy at September 12, 2013 06:42 PM (z9HTb)
OK, who (or what) is Reindeer pussy pants?
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 12, 2013 06:43 PM (DCC9P)
Posted by: Dr Randy Jewels at September 12, 2013 10:42 PM (qRasw)
Local story
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 12, 2013 06:43 PM (FIDMq)
Nothing, the first one is a professional portrait, a few hours worth of work was done beforehand.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 12, 2013 06:43 PM (APJIX)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 06:43 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo, checkin' out interracial dating statistics at September 12, 2013 06:43 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 06:44 PM (doBIb)
'Zup, Horde?
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 12, 2013 10:42 PM (5J54Q)
I'm 50, and the face I've got.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 06:44 PM (T1005)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 10:40 PM (doBIb)
The ten round versions have been out for months.
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at September 12, 2013 06:44 PM (2vl2+)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 06:44 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 06:44 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 06:45 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 06:45 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 06:45 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 10:44 PM (T1005)
Well, you can only do so much with facial tenatacles...
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 12, 2013 06:45 PM (5J54Q)
I'd have thought you'd be more pro-flooding actually
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo, checkin' out interracial dating statistics at September 12, 2013 10:43 PM (d7tB2)
Oh, no! I wouldn't want anything....natural....to happen to anyone.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 06:45 PM (T1005)
Posted by: MTF at September 12, 2013 06:45 PM (kjwIf)
Posted by: Dr Randy Jewels at September 12, 2013 10:42 PM (qRasw)
Local story
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 12, 2013 10:43 PM
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE !!!!
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 12, 2013 06:45 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: fluffy at September 12, 2013 06:46 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 12, 2013 06:46 PM (DCC9P)
Posted by: Splunge at September 12, 2013 06:46 PM (bKA83)
--Here, he's projecting India to the USA. In India, it's cheap as hell to eat out, but in the Sates and Canada, it costs more than eating food prepared at home.
Not quite. Fast food is often very cheap.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 12, 2013 06:46 PM (DXo9n)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 06:47 PM (doBIb)
Nothing, the first one is a professional portrait, a few hours worth of work was done beforehand.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 12, 2013 10:43 PM (APJIX)
Reminds me of the pics of Kathy Griffin - never would have figured they were the same people
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 12, 2013 06:47 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: MTF at September 12, 2013 06:47 PM (kjwIf)
I've also discovered the granddaughter likes 90s techno music. I play it, and she starts dancing around the room. So now I have a reason to keep it.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 12, 2013 06:48 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 06:48 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Peaches at September 12, 2013 06:48 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 06:48 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 06:48 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Gingy at September 12, 2013 06:48 PM (aH+zP)
Anyway, it's really weird how the statistics work. Black females don't do well in the dating meat market. Female PhDs do even worse.
But I'd rather spend time with Jessica than with Samantha Power, who is white and dumb as a box of flint hammers.
My Sailerite head is exploding over this
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 12, 2013 06:48 PM (d7tB2)
TD Jest
LOL. I thought logprof was misspelling "just" in the NFL thread. Oh. It's a player's name. Never mind.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 12, 2013 06:49 PM (YD2FC)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 12, 2013 06:49 PM (8sCoq)
there was a story a week or ten days ago about how the McDouble™ had the most nutrition for the dollar....something like 390 calories for $1
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 12, 2013 06:49 PM (DCC9P)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 12, 2013 06:49 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 06:50 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 06:50 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 12, 2013 06:50 PM (V1ZIU)
I read a book in the early 1990s about how bad the sun is for your skin, and it gives you wrinkles, etc. I have worn an SPF 30 every day since then. If I am going out later in the day when itÂ’s almost dark out I still put it on as part of my routine.
Right now I look bad because I have been stressed out about my brother and lost at least 7 pounds. I donÂ’t weigh much to start with.
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 10:44 PM (z4WKX)
--You may be overdoing it. A little sun is the easiest way to adsorb Vitamin D, arguably the surest cancer preventative. You should trade off a slightly higher risk of skin cancer (which by nature is easier to detect and treat) for a much diminished risk of all other cancers.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 06:50 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 06:50 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 12, 2013 06:51 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 06:52 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Gingy at September 12, 2013 06:52 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 12, 2013 06:52 PM (DCC9P)
I deal with start up metallurgy labs for my company all over the world.
The Chinese want work instructions in great detail so they can say "Well I followed What they said"
The Russians "We can do no wrong" meaning prove we fucked up
The Indians will just argue any mistake/problem till you give up.
Posted by: Obozo at September 12, 2013 06:52 PM (TsPJM)
Posted by: logprof
Your not a ginger are you?
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 06:52 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Splunge at September 12, 2013 06:52 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 10:48 PM (XyrkB)
--It was the student peddling the trope, not I.
83 Jest keeping it close.
TD Jest
LOL. I thought logprof was misspelling "just" in the NFL thread. Oh. It's a player's name. Never mind.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 12, 2013 10:49 PM (YD2FC)
--No, not a player name, but a mock nickname for the Jets.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 06:53 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Eddie Barzoun, God's special little creature at September 12, 2013 06:54 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 06:54 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: EROWMER at September 12, 2013 06:54 PM (OONaw)
The Chinese want work instructions in great detail so they can say "Well I followed What they said"
The Russians "We can do no wrong" meaning prove we fucked up
The Indians will just argue any mistake/problem till you give up.
Posted by: Obozo
The Arabs hire a British guy to do it.
The South Africans somehow do it right for a third of the cost.
The Brazilians tax you 60% for bringing in the training materials.
...
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 06:55 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 06:55 PM (z4WKX)
cancer (which by nature is easier to detect and treat) for a much
diminished risk of all other cancers.
Posted by: logprof
Your not a ginger are you?
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 10:52 PM (CMlD4)
--Nope. I am of course not taking cosmetics into consideration.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 06:55 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 12, 2013 06:55 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 06:56 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2013 06:56 PM (jmE9Q)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 06:56 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2013 06:57 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, late to the meme as usual at September 12, 2013 06:57 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 12, 2013 06:58 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: the stapler at September 12, 2013 06:58 PM (NlA7T)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 10:55 PM (z4WKX)
--Good going. My wife for a while slacked on taking her calcium chews after babeh came along. Now that her mom in going for surgery due to osteo problems, I have not had to nag her to take her Ca for the past 2 weeks.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 06:58 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:00 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 07:00 PM (XyrkB)
FU Comcast
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 12, 2013 10:50 PM (8sCoq)
You have a free internet connection?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 12, 2013 07:00 PM (NELfC)
Oh. Again.
Never mind.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 12, 2013 10:58 PM (YD2FC)
--BTW, it's an unwritten rule that only the NY football Jets, not the Winnipeg hockey club, can be called the Jest. If you want to mock Winnipeg, call them the Props.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:01 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 07:01 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 07:01 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 07:02 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 12, 2013 07:02 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 07:02 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 12, 2013 11:00 PM (NELfC)
i canceled cable tv some time ago
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 12, 2013 07:02 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 11:01 PM
Thanks, Ms.Buzzkill
(j/k)
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 12, 2013 07:03 PM (DCC9P)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:04 PM (T1005)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 07:05 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 07:05 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: the stapler at September 12, 2013 07:05 PM (NlA7T)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 12, 2013 10:48 PM (d7tB2)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 11:02 PM (r+7wo)
--It must be partially due to American black chicks mostly restricting themselves to black men. A foreign black babe who has good English and is open to dating white guys should do well.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:05 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 07:05 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 07:06 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: the stapler at September 12, 2013 07:07 PM (NlA7T)
I'd guess the laziness and bad hygiene add to that.
Posted by: The Hickster at September 12, 2013 07:07 PM (TsPJM)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:07 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:07 PM (bufJH)
There is a light wooden door that leads out to the back porch. What kind of door would really block the cold from coming in? Obviously I know nothing about doors, etc.
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 11:05 PM (z4WKX)
Even a light wooden door can be effective if it seals properly. Are there drafts? When it is cold, does the actual surface of the door feel cold or just around the edges?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:07 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 12, 2013 07:07 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 07:07 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2013 07:08 PM (jmE9Q)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:09 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 12, 2013 07:09 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Gingy at September 12, 2013 07:10 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 07:10 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 07:10 PM (r+7wo)
Suicide blast seems not to have breached perimeter of US consulate in #Herat, says BBC's David Loyn in Afghanistan http://bbc.in/16oL1n0
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 12, 2013 07:10 PM (8sCoq)
That might help. LOL You certainly have the gorgeous and smart angle covered.
Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2013 07:10 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 07:10 PM (r+7wo)
Guys, I have dryer in back hall and there is no insulation in that hall.
I have to fix something minor and can get 75% off up to $2,000 for
insulation in there.
There is a light wooden door that leads out to the back porch. What
kind of door would really block the cold from coming in? Obviously I
know nothing about doors, etc.
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 11:05 PM (z4WKX)
Even a light wooden door can be effective if it seals properly. Are there drafts? When it is cold, does the actual surface of the door feel cold or just around the edges?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:07 PM (T1005)
If you're going to be doing insulation work yourself, you can pay a couple of extra bucks and get encapsulated batts -- which leads to far less exposure to raw fiberglass.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:11 PM (T1005)
That describes me. I've dated a couple of white guys in the past and suspect if I ever get married, it will be to one.
But I guess actually leaving my house and caring about getting hitched would make things easier.
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 11:07 PM (r+7wo)
--My uncle met his Angolan wife in an English class over there. You just gotta get out there.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:11 PM (bufJH)
A lot of the problem with doors is leakage at the edges. Good seals help tons. Adding a storm door to a crappy door will help a lot too.
Posted by: The Hickster at September 12, 2013 07:11 PM (TsPJM)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 07:11 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: the stapler at September 12, 2013 07:11 PM (NlA7T)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 07:11 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:12 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: fluffy at September 12, 2013 07:12 PM (z9HTb)
A closed one. That's what works best in Canada anyway.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 12, 2013 07:13 PM (YD2FC)
Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2013 10:57 PM (k55Fc)
"The grandfather, 34-year-old..."
Grandfather of a 16 month old at 34? WTFF??? How old/where was the mother? (and where was that baby's daddy?) Murderous rage indeed.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 07:13 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 07:14 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:14 PM (doBIb)
kind of door would really block the cold from coming in? Obviously I
know nothing about doors, etc.
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 11:05 PM (z4WKX)
Define cold - minimum outside temp you see is?
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 12, 2013 07:14 PM (FIDMq)
Van carrying clowns crashes
http://tinyurl.com/nyzhrfj
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 12, 2013 07:14 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 11:07 PM (r+7wo)
But on the plus side for you step 1 probably won't result in skin cancer/social awkwardness. So you have that going for you. :-)
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 12, 2013 07:15 PM (pAlYe)
A. work
B. the gym
Posted by: the stapler at September 12, 2013 11:11 PM (NlA7T)
So if you have a fitness center at your place of work that would be double bad?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 12, 2013 07:15 PM (NELfC)
Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2013 07:16 PM (k55Fc)
A good exterior door, installed properly with a storm door, or better two doors installed as an air lock. Do you use the door often - if not walling it off is an option.
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 07:17 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 07:17 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Gingy at September 12, 2013 07:17 PM (aH+zP)
A. work
B. the gym
Posted by: the stapler at September 12, 2013 11:11 PM (NlA7T)
So if you have a fitness center at your place of work that would be double bad?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 12, 2013 11:15 PM (NELfC)
The only way it could be worse is if it were on a streetcorner.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:17 PM (T1005)
Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2013 10:57 PM (k55Fc)
How could you ever recover from being on that jury?
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 07:17 PM (KDUNf)
Skin Cancer? Where do you live? Arizona?
Which is where I dream of living if I could ever unload this California house...bring on the rattlesnakes and skin cancer!
Posted by: Splunge at September 12, 2013 07:18 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: adams at September 12, 2013 07:19 PM (gQKHE)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 07:19 PM (NlA7T)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 07:20 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 07:20 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 07:20 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 07:20 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 07:20 PM (r+7wo)
How could you ever recover from being on that jury?
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 11:17 PM (KDUNf)
It'd be a bad taste of reality, that's for sure.....but it's reality, all the same. People will deal.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:21 PM (T1005)
I've picked 2 wives really poorly and am working on this model for different reasons. If I go looking I'll just end up picking poorly again is my fear.
Posted by: The Hickster at September 12, 2013 07:21 PM (TsPJM)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 07:21 PM (HVff2)
JACK IN THE BOX LATE NIGHT MUNCHIE MEALS START TONIGHT
The appeal of this varies, depending.
Actually, I'm pretty irritated with you, because I'm pretty sure I'm going to wind up with a telescope when I get to Arizona, and it's all your fault.
Posted by: Splunge at September 12, 2013 07:21 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:21 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: t-bird at September 12, 2013 07:22 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 07:22 PM (r+7wo)
Ha! I used to tear up those fried kangaroo meat tacos after a night out drinking.
Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2013 07:23 PM (k55Fc)
All the foam in the world isn't going to help if the door isn't installed well or has settled or twisted over the years.
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 07:23 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 07:24 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Splunge at September 12, 2013 11:21 PM (bKA83)
The XT8 is a solid buy.
And I gotta roll. Munchie time and the wife wants to start planning our anniversary weekend.
Just had to drop in for that extremely excellent message of gooey cheese and halfy fries.
Posted by: CAC at September 12, 2013 07:24 PM (SQxbd)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 12, 2013 07:24 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:25 PM (bufJH)
I thought my father was cheap but a quite a few people told me older houses here in MA & NE were built w/o much insulation.
Thank you.
Carol
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 11:20 PM (z4WKX)
Most of the stuff that gets blown into the walls or attic eventually settles, leaving you with a wall that is 2/3 insulated.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:25 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Gingy at September 12, 2013 11:17 PM (aH+zP)
Maybe I'm just being an ass here, or maybe it's just that most teenage moms I know/know of end up going the route of the "trying to live on minimum wage" story up there, but having kids at 15/16 just seems to me to be a poor choice.
I know that way back when girls married/had kids young, but that hasn't really been the norm for a couple of decades now. Somehow I don't think this 34 year old grandfather (who, BTW, molested his 16yo grandchild) would be in the same class of folks as your beloved aunt.
And IMO they should put him in general pop. Save the taxpayers a few bucks on his "life" sentence.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 07:26 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 07:26 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 07:26 PM (z4WKX)
I got carded a couple weeks ago buying Copenhagen. I'm 51 but it was a trainee with the boss standing there. It was fun though I got my ID out as the boss was saying no you don't have to go that far above 18. I got a kick out of it and told her so cause she looked embarrassed.
Posted by: The Hickster at September 12, 2013 07:27 PM (TsPJM)
Posted by: model_1066 at September 12, 2013 07:28 PM (QMWjL)
Posted by: bestie21 at September 12, 2013 07:28 PM (btihN)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:28 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 07:28 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 07:29 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: thunderb at September 12, 2013 07:29 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2013 07:29 PM (jmE9Q)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2013 07:30 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: thunderb at September 12, 2013 11:29 PM (zOTsN)
normal and slow here
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 12, 2013 07:30 PM (FIDMq)
Too bad it wasn't built in the 1930s... if it was insulated with old movie posters, you'd have made a crapload of money from it.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 12, 2013 07:30 PM (YD2FC)
Posted by: model_1066 at September 12, 2013 07:30 PM (QMWjL)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 07:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 07:30 PM (xlBXB)
I got carded a couple weeks ago buying Copenhagen. I'm 51 but it was a trainee with the boss standing there. It was fun though I got my ID out as the boss was saying no you don't have to go that far above 18. I got a kick out of it and told her so cause she looked embarrassed.
Posted by: The Hickster at September 12, 2013 11:27 PM (TsPJM)
When I was 16 and working in a liquor store (illegally), I'd occasionally card the older ladies just to put a spring in their step.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:31 PM (T1005)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 07:31 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 07:31 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:31 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: model_1066 at September 12, 2013 11:28 PM (QMWjL)
--Kinda like this?
http://youtu.be/66xxck1TV-Y
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:32 PM (bufJH)
Did not look at the original story but he has a grand child that's 16 or molested the child of his 16 year old daughter?
Posted by: The Hickster at September 12, 2013 07:32 PM (TsPJM)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:28 PM (T1005)
Find it in the chips and dips section, tortilla chips probably would work best with it. Don't go cheap on the bean dip, just sayin'. Also...unless you want to sleep outside, don't partake of it yourself IYKWIM.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 07:32 PM (yh0zB)
Powers needs a photofacial, and then learn to use sunscreen. Goodness!
John Kerry must embrace his long lined face and stop getting fillers that make him look like Fragglerock
Mathews needs rehab
Posted by: thunderb at September 12, 2013 07:32 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: fluffy at September 12, 2013 07:32 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 07:33 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 12, 2013 07:33 PM (YD2FC)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:33 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: The Hickster at September 12, 2013 11:32 PM (TsPJM)
Typo. Should have read "16 month old" instead of "yo". No mention of the babymama (or babydaddy either, for that matter).
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 07:33 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 07:34 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 07:34 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:34 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 12, 2013 07:34 PM (NLTDQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 07:34 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:34 PM (bufJH)
After closing time at the club a couple of weeks back, the bartender didn't believe me when I told him I was 46. I showed her my driver's license. She thought I was in my mid-30s.
When I dyed my hair for a role on stage, I shocked another cast member when I started talking about my granddaughter. She thought I was 28.
So, if I can hold on to this face for a few more years...well, I won't complain.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 12, 2013 07:35 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 07:35 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 07:35 PM (z4WKX)
The grandfather is 34 years old. The granddaughter is 16 MONTHS old.
Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2013 07:36 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: model_1066 at September 12, 2013 07:36 PM (QMWjL)
Posted by: Chelsea d'afrique, black female PhD at September 12, 2013 11:20 PM (r+7wo)
<blushing>
Well I read a lot - and end up filtering through something like a 500 blogs and web sites every day. Luckily thanks to RSS feeds and personalized aggregaters this is somewhat less work than it sounds.
And there are some links that are so interesting that I literally can't use them on the ONT because they'd require a full post/essay to fully do justice to them.
Do I ever write these essays? No.
Because limited time + The Laziness. :-(
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 12, 2013 07:36 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:28 PM (T1005)
Refried bean dip? It's the kind you get in Mexican restaurants. Tortilla chips for those.
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 11:31 PM (doBIb)
I have never in my life seen refried bean dip in a Mexican restaurant. Salsa, pico de gallo, guacamole -- sure. Refried beans -- sure. Refried bean dip? -- never. Does it come in a can? I found five layer dip, spinach dip, ranch dip, and guacamole, but not "bean dip". As you can probably tell, I'm not much into it myself, but am supposed to provide some.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:36 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 07:36 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 12, 2013 07:36 PM (YD2FC)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 07:37 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:28 PM (T1005)
Find it in the chips and dips section, tortilla chips probably would work best with it. Don't go cheap on the bean dip, just sayin'. Also...unless you want to sleep outside, don't partake of it yourself IYKWIM.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 11:32 PM (yh0zB)
Ding!!! Makes perfect sense -- and I didn't look there before. I was looking at places that were refrigerated (like where all the other dips were).
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 12, 2013 07:38 PM (zxfH6)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 07:38 PM (XyrkB)
I learned early always guess low if you are asked a woman's age. We had an intern in our lab once who guessed 10yrs high and I got to see the wisdom in that practice. Though we knew how dumb this engineering student was since he asked us "how do you calculate the MPG for your car?"
Posted by: The Hickster at September 12, 2013 07:38 PM (TsPJM)
So, if I can hold on to this face for a few more years...well, I won't complain.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 12, 2013 11:35 PM (5J54Q)
I drove the 'stang to the grocery store a couple of weeks ago and when I came back out two ladies probably in their mid 30s was looking it over. One of them told me that it was a nice car and it was funny to see an older man driving it.
fml...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 07:38 PM (yh0zB)
I guess if you're 37 and you marry a 53-year-old, you figure it's time to quit maintaining that barn.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 12, 2013 07:38 PM (uQMlP)
Posted by: fluffy at September 12, 2013 07:38 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 12, 2013 07:39 PM (NLTDQ)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 07:39 PM (r+7wo)
Good evening, good people. Another sweet day, perfect early fall weather here.
Didn't read the comments, is anyone fighting tonite? If so, I'm gone.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 12, 2013 07:39 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: model_1066 at September 12, 2013 07:39 PM (QMWjL)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 12, 2013 07:39 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:39 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: mindful webworker and the round tuits at September 12, 2013 07:39 PM (AMsS5)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:39 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 07:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:40 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: mindful webworker and the round tuits at September 12, 2013 07:40 PM (AMsS5)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 07:40 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 12, 2013 07:41 PM (NLTDQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 07:41 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 07:42 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 07:43 PM (xlBXB)
A modern, pre-hung solid core, exterior grade door. You'll also want one that has an extended kickplate for the deadbolt. The pre-hung part is important, I'm guessing a big part of your draft problem is the door frame/jamb being old.
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 07:43 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:43 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 07:43 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 07:43 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 07:44 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 07:44 PM (xlBXB)
Heh. That was great!
Posted by: model_1066 at September 12, 2013 11:36 PM (QMWjL)
Totally agree, going through some of their other stuff now. Nice sound
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 07:44 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 12, 2013 07:44 PM (NLTDQ)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 07:44 PM (r+7wo)
"Just read that windfarms were the cause of death of 67 eagles in the past 5 years."
My BiL has testified before the Idaho State Legislature as an expert on damage caused by wind farms.
He says the worst problem is that they kill bats. Now, you say wait, bats have echolocation and should be OK. Turns out they have no problem missing the blades, but the turbulence crushes their lungs as they pass through.
Bats are important, they eat a lot of insects like mosquitos.
And that's just for starters, Wind Farms are nasty.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 12, 2013 07:45 PM (jTKU5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 07:45 PM (qyfb5)
Oil heat? Check into gas, hell even electric is cheaper then oil now.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 12, 2013 07:46 PM (APJIX)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 07:46 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 11:43 PM (GEICT)
You are special, snowflake. That's why we cut your meat for you.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 07:46 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: kangaroo rancher at September 12, 2013 07:46 PM (gDQju)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:47 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 07:47 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: model_1066 at September 12, 2013 07:47 PM (QMWjL)
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 07:47 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 12, 2013 11:45 PM (jTKU5)
That sums up the left real nice. Feel good policies and results and real life consequences be damned.
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 12, 2013 07:47 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 11:34 PM (XyrkB)
One with more of a Hors d'oeuvre outlook than a bean-dip one. I don't generally hover around the food -- just grab and go. And I've always been a picky eater, so.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:47 PM (T1005)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:47 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 12, 2013 07:48 PM (NLTDQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 07:48 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 07:48 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 07:49 PM (xlBXB)
Posted by: fluffy at September 12, 2013 07:50 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 11:44 PM (KDUNf)
--Their full debut album, Silent Alarm, should still be on Youtube. It's excellent. Often they sound like a harder version of The Cure.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:50 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at September 12, 2013 07:50 PM (fzFF6)
Posted by: model_1066 at September 12, 2013 07:50 PM (QMWjL)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:50 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 12, 2013 07:50 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 12, 2013 11:36 PM (YD2FC)
Some dryer vent through-wall fittings have a flapper valve in them that is supposed to stop cold outside air from entering when the dryer is off. But they are rarely very air-tight. Also, if an air-using appliance like a furnace is located in the same area, there will be a suction applied to the dryer vent. Modern furnace installs call for two to four inch "combustion air" vent running from outside to the furnace. Older homes like CarolT's often didn't have that, but it would be an easy thing to add.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2013 07:50 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 12, 2013 07:51 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 11:44 PM (r+7wo)
--Trust me: it was meant as a compliment.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:51 PM (bufJH)
Came to the conclusion that the reason things get rowdy here is an offshoot of the current situation our country is in.
Even up here in my rural 2x4 area, there is an undercurrent of unease that is quick to surface. As if no one is really sure of what's ahead, if the job will REALLY last--if there's a future for America or not.
Almost a tangible feeling. Very unsettling, never dealt with this before.
Anyway, that's my report.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 12, 2013 07:52 PM (SAMxH)
I wonder how big the payola was for that bit of b.s. Someone is laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2013 07:52 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 07:52 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 12, 2013 07:52 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 07:52 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 10:43 PM (bufJH)
Lol. Didn't see this. She's quite a bit darker, thinner, and more weave-wearing than me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 11:44 PM (r+7wo)
Pics!!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 07:52 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 07:53 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 07:53 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 07:53 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: EC at September 12, 2013 11:47 PM (doBIb)
Show them this picture:
http://lastrefugeofascoundrel.blogspot.com/2011_12_01_archive.html
and then point out that of all the windmills out there on that cold Iowa day exactly NONE of them were operating. Seems that they freeze up in the cold and will self-destruct if they are run below a certain temperature.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 07:53 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 07:55 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 07:55 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 12, 2013 07:55 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 11:47 PM (CMlD4)
She's a neighbor to my BiL then. He's on High Line.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 12, 2013 07:55 PM (jTKU5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 07:55 PM (qyfb5)
We're all in Generation Angst now.
And the nation's father figure is just A-OK peachy with that.
Posted by: [/i][/s][/b]akula51 at September 12, 2013 07:56 PM (rMESH)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2013 07:56 PM (jmE9Q)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 12, 2013 07:57 PM (YD2FC)
Well, my wife winked at me on Yahoo. Rest is history, fwiw.
Posted by: [/i][/s][/b]akula51 at September 12, 2013 07:57 PM (rMESH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 07:58 PM (GEICT)
316 beat me too it
We banned DDT to save the eagles and now live with bed bugs and malaria, just so that we could smite them with wind turbines. Unintended consequences are a bitch ...
Bloc Party rules
Posted by: Joe at September 12, 2013 07:58 PM (8Prb7)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 07:58 PM (xlBXB)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:47 PM
Still looks better than Capt Buttfumble did last year, especially against the Patriots
Posted by: kbdabear at September 12, 2013 07:58 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 07:59 PM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 07:59 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 12, 2013 07:59 PM (YD2FC)
Priceless, BC...
Posted by: [/i][/s][/b]akula51 at September 12, 2013 07:59 PM (rMESH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 08:00 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 11:55 PM (r+7wo)
Isn't that a co-inky-dink? I just got an email from there, seems that I'm gonna be a millionaire!!!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:00 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 12, 2013 08:00 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:01 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: [/i][/s][/b]akula51 at September 12, 2013 08:01 PM (rMESH)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:02 PM (r+7wo)
Bloc Party rules
Posted by: Joe at September 12, 2013 11:58 PM (8Prb7)
--When my brother and I flew to Africa to go to the wedding of our uncle and the aforementioned Angolan babe, British Airways had Silent Alarm in full on one of their channels. Verily, to that and Employment by the Kaiser Chiefs, we rocked. And we bought those albums not long after returning.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 08:02 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 08:02 PM (CMlD4)
http://tinypic.com/r/2cyon4/5
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 11:58 PM (GEICT)
AUUGGGHH!!! Cute overload!!! going into diabetic coma....
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:02 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Joe at September 12, 2013 08:02 PM (8Prb7)
There probably is, I just never go out so I wouldn't know.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 12:00 AM (qyfb5)
I was planning to join the Procrastinator's Club, but I never got around to it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2013 08:03 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: t-bird at September 12, 2013 08:03 PM (FcR7P)
Damn, I was off the HQ all day. I'm sure that would have been entertaining.>>
I thought I saw earlier that it would be settled with a jello wrestling match.
Posted by: The Hickster at September 12, 2013 08:03 PM (TsPJM)
Almost a tangible feeling. Very unsettling, never dealt with this before.
Anyway, that's my report.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 12, 2013 11:52 PM (SAMxH)
Today I get a strong 1978 vibe even though I was a wee lad at the time.
Mostly I get a feeling of the same kind of frustration and sense of powerlessness burbling beneath the surface that I vaguely recall from back then as if everything was in a minor key but no one realized it. Even when things were going okay there was still a sense that as a nation we were unmoored and drifting towards bad things. And there was nothing you could do about it.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 12, 2013 08:03 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: no good deed at September 12, 2013 08:03 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:52 PM (T1005)
There are actually pics of me on the yahoogroups thingie.
Oh, and fearsome cthulhu, you asked me a while ago what part of deepest darkest Africa I'm from. I'm Nigerian.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 11:55 PM (r+7wo)
I knew that, and -- by the way -- I have to say you look just as mahvelous as you sound....
The reason I was asking was probably because I'm fascinated with East Africa. I may never actually go there, because of the profound discomfort I have for the concept of "things which actually evolved to eat humans" -- as opposed to the great multitude of things in the world who were only introduced to humans recently. I know quite a bit less about West Africa.
When you say, "I'm Nigerian", were you born there? Do you currently hold Nigerian citizenship? Is your family there?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 08:04 PM (T1005)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 12, 2013 11:58 PM (/9IC1)
--Fumbles are always bad. At least interceptions can at times be effectively no different from punts.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 08:04 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:04 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 08:04 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2013 11:59 PM (CMlD4)
That describes BiL's location exactly. Big ravine behind the house and then the windmills on the other side. Teeny world.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 12, 2013 08:05 PM (jTKU5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:06 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 13, 2013 12:04 AM (r+7wo)
nicely done...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:07 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: model_1066 at September 12, 2013 08:07 PM (QMWjL)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 11:52 PM (r+7wo)
Thanks!
They're doing "Lil Pirates". Basically they get to cheer with the local HS cheerleaders at home football games during the 1st and part of the 2nd quarter. They love it.
http://tinypic.com/r/2cyon4/5
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 11:58 PM (GEICT)
Oh, my.....you've got about a dozen years, bucko.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 08:07 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 08:07 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 12, 2013 08:08 PM (YD2FC)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:08 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 08:09 PM (qyfb5)
And I torrent the shit out of stuff!
Just my two cents.
Posted by: sithkhan at September 12, 2013 08:09 PM (F7qjM)
It is such an important time for all of us to remember to cherish every moment - and live in the NOW not the past or the future, amen my friend.
Amen.
Posted by: [/i][/s][/b]akula51 at September 12, 2013 08:09 PM (rMESH)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 13, 2013 12:08 AM (YD2FC)
--Even better: it's Dirty Sanchez.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 08:10 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:10 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:10 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 08:11 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2013 08:11 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 08:12 PM (xlBXB)
Damn, she trains them young, don't she? I was at least seven before I realized that girls were beautiful and right about everything.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:13 PM (yh0zB)
November 5, we'll celebrate the 8th Anniversary of the happiest evening on a beach of our lives, man. All thanks to the Internet...well, and the fact I got stuck on a contract gig where she was living, etc., etc., etc.
But, yeah, mainly the Internet.
Posted by: [/i][/s][/b]akula51 at September 12, 2013 08:13 PM (rMESH)
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 08:13 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:14 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:15 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2013 08:15 PM (MBqvE)
Time for the old folk. BCochran, you done right well with the kids--both of you.
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 12, 2013 08:15 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 13, 2013 12:15 AM (GEICT)
Can't correct it with braces? She's awfully young to have to do that sort of radical surgery isn't she? Bones still growing and all that?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:16 PM (yh0zB)
That Bloc Party video is pretty good
Did anyone else see Gutfeld's bday gift to all of us? Great music post, mind blown ...
Posted by: Joe at September 12, 2013 08:16 PM (8Prb7)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 13, 2013 12:14 AM (yh0zB)
--I think when I am watching babeh Saturday I am going to sneak out of the house with him to drive an hour to BWW to catch the A 'n' M - 'Bama game. I love their spicy garlic sauce on wings.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 08:17 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 08:17 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: mindful webworker and the rumbly tummy at September 12, 2013 08:17 PM (1zmtP)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:17 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:17 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 08:18 PM (xlBXB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:19 PM (GEICT)
gotta be at The Plant at 0630 (that's gonna hurt)
rainin' like a bitch here in the NW Grand Rapids area (exit question, how does a bitch rain?)
tomorrow night, mi amigos
Red Shirt: contact me.
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 12, 2013 08:19 PM (DCC9P)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:20 PM (yh0zB)
Awww. Thanks, fearsome one.
Born and raised there and came here for college, although the family used to come here on vacay before that. All my siblings and I did college here. One of us moved back a few years ago and the rest of us are still here. Mom's back home. Both parents lived here briefly at some point in their adult lives.
Yep, I'm a Nigerian citizen and a US permanent resident.
What more do you want to know?
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 13, 2013 12:08 AM (r+7wo)
With such an engaging personality and unusually rich life history, I'm sure that we could chat for hours.....but if we did it via blog comments, it'd probably come off like an interrogation. So I'll just ask one and be done for the night -- what do you consider your most "Nigerian" memory from having grown up there?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 08:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:20 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 08:21 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 08:21 PM (xlBXB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 13, 2013 12:19 AM (GEICT)
that sucks.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:21 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:21 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:22 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 08:23 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 12:07 AM (T1005)
Eldest is 6. And I'm already out of time.
Two years ago in VPK, the boy with the behavior problems declared to my wife that my daughter was "beautiful and right about everything".
Last year in Kindergarten, there was some boy she had a crush on. Every pic of her doing school stuff, there he was.
This year.....my wife dropped her off for school, two boys who were walking in saw her get out of the van, yelled her name, waited till she caught up to them and then walked with her to class. One boy to each side, nodding and listening while she talked.
*sigh*
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 13, 2013 12:10 AM (GEICT)
It might help if they weren't both cute as buttons. Maybe if you smudged mud on 'em every morning before they went to school?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 08:23 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:23 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 08:23 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2013 08:24 PM (jmE9Q)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:25 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 13, 2013 12:21 AM (r+7wo)
Ex wife had scoliosis, wore a brace from 10 all the way up to her early 20s (and later if the back started bothering her. She finally got the surgery done when she was in her late 40's when it got to the point where she couldn't breathe right.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:25 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Fox2! at September 12, 2013 08:26 PM (XFTOV)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at September 12, 2013 08:27 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 08:27 PM (qyfb5)
For instance, the City of Calgary has electric transit trains (glorified streetcars) supposedly running on "wind power", but I notice that the trains still run on those rare calm days.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2013 08:27 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:27 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 08:27 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:28 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 12:23 AM (T1005)
put fake tattoos on em, make them wear those funny teeth...course they wouldn't do it when they got into their teenage years. BTW, that's when you will find out that redheads don't go gray. Their hair turns white. So you got that going for you.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:28 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:29 PM (r+7wo)
Maybe if you smudged mud on 'em every morning before they went to school?
There ain't that much mud in this world. Those are some cute kids.
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 08:29 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 08:30 PM (xlBXB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 08:30 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: PMRich at September 13, 2013 12:27 AM (KDUNf)
note to self...visit Idaho in May...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:30 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 13, 2013 12:29 AM (r+7wo)
really....
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 08:31 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 08:31 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2013 08:32 PM (jmE9Q)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:32 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 08:32 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 13, 2013 12:29 AM (r+7wo)
Well, I *act* younger. Considerably.
Nah I'm 41, not that much older.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 12:30 AM (qyfb5)
--As my college buddy put it: You can only be young once, but you can be immature forever!
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 08:33 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 08:33 PM (xlBXB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:33 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:34 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:34 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 08:34 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 08:34 PM (xlBXB)
Posted by: Thunderb at September 12, 2013 08:35 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: PMRich at September 13, 2013 12:27 AM (KDUNf)
note to self...visit Idaho in May...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 13, 2013 12:30 AM (yh0zB)
--Now's the time in Winnipeg. Since the wifey is out of town, my mind has been drifting to recalling the hot Filipina babe in my class who both times this week wore Daisy Dukes so short the pockets (although not, alas, her ass) were hanging out.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 08:36 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:37 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Fox2! at September 12, 2013 08:37 PM (XFTOV)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:37 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 08:38 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:39 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 08:40 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:41 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: CarolT at September 12, 2013 08:41 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:42 PM (r+7wo)
I went to ID after nuke school in FL. Left Orlando wearing shorts on 23 Dec '83. My parents were watching the weather and talked me out of driving to ID. Flew in to Idaho Falls first week of Jan '84, temp was -27 F and everybody said "You missed the cold snap" in this real cheery voice. Thought I would hate the place, but great memories.
Place where I lived
LAT 43°27'58.47"N
LON 112° 2'55.73"W
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 08:42 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Thunderb at September 12, 2013 08:42 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:43 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 08:44 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Eton Cox at September 12, 2013 08:44 PM (QCc6B)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:44 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 08:44 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 08:45 PM (xlBXB)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 12:20 AM (T1005)
Hard to answer, since I spent my first 18 years there (I'm 34 now) and I go home about every couple of years. So most of my memories are Nigerian.
You have to be more specific.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 13, 2013 12:25 AM (r+7wo)
You've spent 16 years here, and so you've seen what people think is normal here -- meat comes in plastic trays with plastic wrap, milk comes in cartons, whipped cream comes in pressurized cans, people work 40 hours a week for full time, DUI is rare and severely punished....but these are not universal norms, they're specific to the US. I was looking for something that, knowing what you know today, would be the most foreign, most un-US experience you had -- while it was probably perfectly natural thing at the time and everybody still does it there now.
I had a woman from Vietnam working for me one time, and she answered the question by laughing and saying how much she had been a rebellious kid -- she would climb up on the roof of one of the houses in her village and run along, jumping from one to another (sort of an early parkour, come to think of it). It didn't really answer the question, exactly, so much as show me a side of her I hadn't really known. She was a no-nonsense Accounting Manager, I was the Controller -- and being a mischievous kid running the rooftops in a place far away where the houses were that close was not something I would have expected from her.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 08:45 PM (T1005)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:45 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 12, 2013 08:45 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Eton Cox at September 13, 2013 12:44 AM (QCc6B)
this shit is nothing compared to ghosts of ONTs past
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 08:45 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:46 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 12, 2013 08:47 PM (Dsds2)
It seems almost wrong that people live surrounded by such beauty.
Trust me the advent of too many people make a wrong of that wrong ...
Posted by: Joe at September 12, 2013 08:48 PM (8Prb7)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 12, 2013 08:48 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 08:48 PM (xlBXB)
Posted by: Rexxx Ryan at September 12, 2013 08:51 PM (bufJH)
Just popping in to say "GAAAAH" Horde.
And now, back to my paper and it's massive rewrite. (I've either succeeded or run so far off track at this point that I'll have flipped one of my original "Pass" votes to a fail.)
Posted by: tsrblke at September 12, 2013 08:52 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: mindful webworker and the wild, wild midwest at September 12, 2013 08:52 PM (Ynbgq)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:52 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Purp at September 13, 2013 12:48 AM (9MLX+)
too bad I can't post that on FB. My daughter would not approve of the language - I do try to keep the old sailor part in check at home.
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 08:53 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: General Chang at September 12, 2013 08:53 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:55 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Jake Idaho at September 12, 2013 08:55 PM (xlBXB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 12, 2013 08:56 PM (GEICT)
https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/618/9270/original.jpg
Posted by: Purp at September 13, 2013 12:48 AM (9MLX+)
It's way too early for that patch. They're still working on "Operation Just-the-tip" and seem to be getting diverted into "Operation Can't-get-the-bra-off-fuck-now-what?"
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 08:56 PM (T1005)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 08:57 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 13, 2013 12:52 AM (r+7wo)
--When I was in Tanzania, there was a stretch where we had no water because the power was out, and it was needed to pump the water from the ground into the storage tank. The lack of water was more disruptive than the lack of electricity.
Posted by: Rexxx Ryan at September 12, 2013 08:58 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: kalneva at September 12, 2013 08:58 PM (XyrkB)
It's pretty much a myth (a leftist created one more than anything) that good food is more expensive than junk and fast food. That's only true if the alternative is pricey trendy orangic and Whole Foods crap or the "locavore" market which is for trendy lefties. That may be the way it is in the elite leftist haunts, actually.
But in the real world, going to the grocery store and cooking is still cheaper than McDonald's. THe problem is the cooking. Boobus Americanus Fatassibus, the typical LIV type, doesn't want to cook. And by cooking, I don't mean anything fancy, just heating and boiling and the basics. (If you look at cost per calorie, then you might have an argument for cheaper fast food, but the typical lard ass needs cheap calories like a drunk needs cheap alcohol)
Basically, after reading a bunch of crap and seeing some results, the problem is highly processed, "fast" (high glycemic load) carbs (and perhaps the the "engineered" saturated fat/oils). When did we start getting fat? After this stuff became a big part of our diet.
There's some recent studies out that bear this out. Basically, the food pyramid our betters in government has been pushing is a bunch of crap.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 12, 2013 09:00 PM (JoWND)
Here's the theme music that applies much better, in my view, than Yakkety Sax:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwhxc3OCBjc
Posted by: Stan and Ollie at September 12, 2013 09:01 PM (ZyC3z)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 09:01 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 12, 2013 09:03 PM (YNK3y)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 09:03 PM (qyfb5)
But did you find a slurpy sale at the 7-11
**
You may have a long line to wat to be served, but don't worry:
You will have plenty of time to be gouged.
Posted by: Apu Nahasapeemapetilan at September 12, 2013 09:05 PM (ZyC3z)
Oh, we also don't have a constant electricity supply.
That is one of the things that we here in the US just can't normally imagine. When we lose power, the world comes to an end. Going to places where power is not reliable / nonexistant is a real eye-opener. Even though I know how well we have it here, I was not prepared for my first visit to Haiti. The main town I went to was getting its first powerline strung while I was there.
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 09:05 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 09:05 PM (r+7wo)
*********
It's the ever-present cow paddies. So sorry!
Posted by: Apu Nahasapeemapetilan at September 12, 2013 09:06 PM (ZyC3z)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 12, 2013 09:06 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 12, 2013 09:07 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: t-bird at September 12, 2013 09:07 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 12, 2013 09:08 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: mindful webworker meets Bugs Bunny at September 12, 2013 09:08 PM (AMsS5)
Hmmm... Well, I didn't really grow up in what most people would imagine an African way. My life was pretty cushy, actually. We lived in a 4-bedroom apt in a really nice part of Lagos, and when the govt still hadn't given my parents a single family house (the govt used to provide houses and official cars and drivers - my parents had 7 cars and 7 drivers between them - to people high enough up), we built a really nice 6 bedroom 6.5 bath house. We used to come here and go to the UK on vacay, parents and 4 kids.
So I'd say my life probably wasn't what you imagined.
I went to a nice private elementary school and was shocked when I got into my govt high school, which looked like what you guys would expect.
I'll say my biggest culture shock here was seeing women smoking openly when I came for college. In Nigeria, women rarely smoke and those who do so in public are considered to be, let's just say, not so nice.
Oh, we also don't have a constant electricity supply. In fact, where we live now, they sometimes go for days with no power or perhaps a few hours of power. (Run by the govt, of course.) So there are generators everywhere.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 13, 2013 12:52 AM (r+7wo)
See, you both did and didn't answer -- I know enough about Africa to have no set notions on what an "African way" might be.....but growing up in a place where you could have seven cars and seven drivers, but still have a family of 6 in a 4-bedroom apartment? That's not the US.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 09:09 PM (T1005)
IDK, its very close, especially if you are cooking for one ...
Hard to beat mcdouble at 99 cents at the grocery store.
Posted by: Joe at September 12, 2013 09:11 PM (8Prb7)
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at September 13, 2013 01:05 AM (r+7wo)
--Isn't it funny how expansive that stuff is in countries like Nigeria and Canada where it's actually pulled from the earth?
Oh, and isn't it bedtime?
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 09:13 PM (bufJH)
http://mrhpub.com/2013-09-sep/land/#8
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 09:14 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: CAC at September 12, 2013 09:15 PM (Eu2Pn)
San Francisco based Momentum Machines already has a machine ready to replace the burger flippers, probably proficient in Spanish too
http://www.psfk.com/2012/11/burger-making-robot.html
Fast food robot builds the perfect burger
Posted by: kbdabear at September 12, 2013 09:20 PM (/9IC1)
San Francisco based Momentum Machines already has a machine ready to replace the burger flippers, probably proficient in Spanish too
http://www.psfk.com/2012/11/burger-making-robot.html
Fast food robot builds the perfect burger
Posted by: kbdabear at September 13, 2013 01:20 AM (/9IC1)
--Servers can also be phased out. SOme joints already have a little touch-screen thingy for picking songs jukebox style, or playing trivia or even TV. Why not also be able to program your meal orders remotely as well?
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 09:24 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 13, 2013 01:20 AM (/9IC1)
Having done a stint a McD's it wouldn't be too hard to mechanize pretty much all of it.
Heck already a crew of decent workers can run a store that does $800 or so and hour during lunch rush with a skeleton staff of...(Does math in head) 5-6.
Honestly with a few tweaks you could probably get that even lower.
Posted by: tsrblke at September 12, 2013 09:25 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2013 09:26 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Yes we can-nibalize the Constitution at September 12, 2013 09:26 PM (rCS6C)
Posted by: logprof at September 13, 2013 01:24 AM (bufJH)
Upon retrospect it's pretty clear the front line staff at McD's was only there because someone did the math and figured we netted more value than a screen.
But the dynamics of that are fast changing I'm sure.
Posted by: tsrblke at September 12, 2013 09:28 PM (GaqMa)
After I had my right hip replaced (rheumatoid arthritis -- wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy), I decided it wouldn't be much better for the wear and tear on the new hip and the other joints that aren't doing so hot to get some weight off.
I decided low card was the way to go (search on that and read about it). I don't think you need to go all the way to "ketogenic" (but that will get the weight off fast), but just get rid of the fast carbs. It is working, but slowly for me.
FOr cooking I (re-)discovered a tool my grandmother and mother in her younger days used all the time: pressure cooker. I've got a total of three of them now (not the fancy plug-in kind -- those things are lower pressure and too expensive, just the regular stove top kind), and sometimes use all three at once.
That will save a lot of time, believe me, but I learned with amusement that a lot of the Boobus Americanus DemoLIVibus are scared of 'em. The hissing noise makes them scared and they haven't learned enough basic mechanical, etc knowledge to understand what's going on and what danger signs to watch for (which are rare, of course).
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 12, 2013 09:28 PM (JoWND)
Since California is going to pass the $10/hr minimum wage, will we see the first rollouts of automated fast food there?
Looks like CA is going to settle that 'which is cheaper - fastfood or home cooking' discussion for us.
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 09:31 PM (KDUNf)
Not much later. Beneath the Planet of the Apes was the second in the series. A friend of mine did the novelization of the third movie. He hated the bad science but was desperate for work at the time.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2013 09:32 PM (kcfmt)
Upon retrospect it's pretty clear the front line staff at McD's was only there because someone did the math and figured we netted more value than a screen.
But the dynamics of that are fast changing I'm sure.
Posted by: tsrblke at September 13, 2013 01:28 AM (GaqMa)
--Yes, the equation is different when the clienetele is lining up and wants it fast. But for families wanting to sit at a booth for a meal, or dudes like me wanting to camp out for a while to watch games and surf the web, a self-ordering system would easily beat out the pimply college student writing down the order and getting it wrong. Hell, it's been a decade-plus on since some sushi bars have taken to delivering order via a little train --more aiming at cutesiness than efficiency, but nevertheless . . .
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 09:32 PM (bufJH)
432 From my (sparse) dating history, it appears to me
that I am actually into younger guys. I'm not sure why. But never say
never, I guess.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female
So thats a no for frumpy middle age white guys?? Aw nuts...
Posted by: puddleglum at September 12, 2013 09:33 PM (8SsiG)
There's some recent studies out that bear this out. Basically,the food pyramid our betters in government hasbeen pushing is abunch of crap.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 13, 2013 01:00 AM (JoWND)
Pretty close to my take. If the food pyramid had been imposed on us by another nation, it would be an act of war. In addition to the points you made (glycemic carbs -- which would also include carbs without accompanying fiber -- and engineered oils/fats), there is also a stunning lack of diversity in modern diets. As an example, there are 70 species of bananas.....but, even if you've been eating 'em all your life, you've likely only had one variety of one species -- the "Cavendish". There are 7500 varieties of apples -- how many have you had? You may have had "whole wheat" bread. -- ever had any with barley? spelt? Einkorn? Emmer? Of the thousands of edible plants out there, most of us will never consume more than the 150 commonly available in the supermarket.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 09:33 PM (T1005)
Kerry's Odd Face Takes Center Stage in Syria Crisis
As President Obama weighs possible military strikes against the regime of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad for its use of chemical weapons, Secretary of State John Kerry has a weird face. Kerry is set to meet with Russian president Vladimir Putin to discuss the civil war in Syria and his bizarre face.
The talks will focus on finding a peaceful resolution to the Syrian civil war and on Kerry's exceedingly peculiar face. Among the issues to be discussed are Syria joining an International treaty barring the use of chemical weapons and the incredibly strange face of John Kerry.
Posted by: AP at September 12, 2013 09:36 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 01:33 AM (T1005)
--I'm biased toward Golden Delicious, because they do not go sour.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 09:36 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 01:33 AM (T1005)
How many breeds of dog have *you* eaten, tough guy?
Posted by: King Baraka at September 12, 2013 09:37 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 09:39 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 09:42 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: logprof at September 13, 2013 01:32 AM (bufJH)
Don't underestimate the value of a server to upsell you.
half of what I did at McD's was convince people to order more food
.
A computer is probably not as good at that (although I'd want a head to head comparison, my hypothesis is that I can judge your reaction and sell accordingly.)
Posted by: tsrblke at September 12, 2013 09:43 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 12, 2013 09:45 PM (YNK3y)
Yep, a good argument that struck me goes like this: 100 calories/day translates to about 10 lbs/year -- roughly. If you were off by just 100 calories a day, you'd either gain or loose 10 lbs in a year. So to maintain a given weight, which we all do, we've got to regulate our caloric intake to a good deal less than 100 calories per day.
Try to do that manually. You have to be weighing everything you shoved into your piehole and carefully tracking your activity levels. None of us could do that outside a controlled scientific enivornment.
Yet we do it. So it becomes obvious that we've got a pretty built-in feedback caloric intake system to maintain our weight. It's automatic, we don't even think about it.
So it's obvious that, to become lardassed, something must screw that up (and understanding there is a variation and distribution of the normal set point for each individual) and upregulate the hell of it.
What the evidence is showing (and will take our elite betters a while to admit) is that is the fast carb, processed crap that is doing it.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 12, 2013 09:45 PM (JoWND)
Posted by: logprof at September 13, 2013 01:32 AM (bufJH)
Don't underestimate the value of a server to upsell you.
half of what I did at McD's was convince people to order more food .
A computer is probably not as good at that (although I'd want a head to head comparison, my hypothesis is that I can judge your reaction and sell accordingly.)
Posted by: tsrblke at September 13, 2013 01:43 AM (GaqMa)
--Fortunately, at BWW, there's less room for "upselling." Just keep the beers and coke refills coming, and I'll be happy and the server will get a healthy tip.
It was awesome the past Monday night because it was all night Happy Hour there. I hope they do that again.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 09:46 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 09:46 PM (qyfb5)
Since California is going to pass the $10/hr minimum wage, will we see the first rollouts of automated fast food there?
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Don't worry. I'm sure that somewhere in Sacramento, even as I write this, someone is writing up a bill that will ban the machines and save those precious burger flipper jobs.
Posted by: junior at September 12, 2013 09:47 PM (wX+eD)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 12, 2013 09:49 PM (YNK3y)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 01:46 AM (qyfb5)
True, but the total interaction time is considerably longer.
Posted by: tsrblke at September 12, 2013 09:51 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 09:54 PM (qyfb5)
We evolved with extremely limited diets. Most people lived their whole life with a relative few berries, meats and other plants.
Most of the varieties we talk about didn't exist until recently, and most fruits and vegetables we have access to are relatively modern - their ancestors are *barely* edible and certainly not the lush and rich things we've hybridized.
So if we evolved without them, why would we *need* them now?
I think part of the explanation for what people see as an increase in allergies (probably not a real change) is travel, as well as access to a greater variety of food than we've ever had before.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 01:42 AM (qyfb5)
Even within a single ecosystem, the food is usually more diverse than the items in a supermarket -- and the reason is quite simple: in the ecosystem where a food item evolved, no two plants are exactly the same because no busybody humans have been around to clone 'em. By contrast, modern farming creates hundreds of acres of cloned plants. For example, if you're looking at wine grapes of the cabernet sauvignon variety, the main clones are: C125, CW44, FPS12, G9V3, LC84, LC10, LC14, PDFS,
Q390-05, R2V11, SA124, SA125, SA126, Reynella Selection and WA Cape Selection. So if you're drinking a cab, it's effectively from 15 plants, max. If you were out roaming the countryside where grapes evolved, you'd get a couple of bottles out of 15 plants.....and any wine you produced would more likely include 600 or so.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 09:56 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 09:57 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: The Dude at September 13, 2013 01:57 AM (vJdyz)
Is that the official AoS Gaming thread review?
Posted by: tsrblke at September 12, 2013 09:59 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 12, 2013 10:00 PM (YNK3y)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 12, 2013 10:01 PM (YNK3y)
Posted by: Baldy at September 12, 2013 10:03 PM (tyDFN)
Posted by: tsrblke at September 13, 2013 01:59 AM (GaqMa)
dunno about that but it is mine. The story is good this time but The Chinese Room stripped away everything that made Frictional's game so awesome. It comes off like they really hated what Frictional does as it goes against everything they do. Someone said it's Amnesia: Dear Esther Edition and I have to agree completely. It is better than Dear Esther though but yeah........
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 10:04 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Null at September 12, 2013 10:04 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: The Dude at September 13, 2013 02:04 AM (vJdyz)
I will assume that sucks (having never played the first one.)
And on that note, I'm going to bed, 5-6 hours of sleep then 5-6 hours to finish this monstrosity I've created of a rewrite. (I'm plus 300 words? How the fuck did that happen.)
Posted by: tsrblke at September 12, 2013 10:07 PM (GaqMa)
Try to do that manually. You have to be weighing everything you shoved into your piehole and carefully tracking youractivity levels. None of us could do that outside a controlled scientific enivornment.
Yet we do it. So itbecomes obvious that we've got a pretty built-infeedback caloric intake system to maintain our weight. It's automatic, we don't even think about it.
So it's obvious that,to become lardassed, something must screw that up (and understanding there is avariation and distribution of the normal set point for each individual) and upregulate the hell of it.
Whatthe evidence isshowing (and will take our elite betters a while to admit) is that is the fast carb, processed crap that is doing it.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 13, 2013 01:45 AM (JoWND)
There are a few other candidates. For one, you might actually need intestinal worms. Humans had evolved with them forever, and occasionally had populations run wild, but mostly coexisted. Once suitable antibiotic agents were available, the general disgust factor meant that they were soon wiped out in most modern societies.....along with an increase in obesity.
Or, there's http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080305113659.htm -- where surgery to the duodenum cures diabetes. There is evidence elsewhere (too late at night to dredge links) that this may be because localized bacteria in the duodenum send signals to human metabolic processes. So, instead of your problem being missing worms, it may be defective gut bacteria. Remember that the sack of meat you walk around with every day has human cells and everyone else....and the ones that run on human DNA are outnumbered 9:1.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 10:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 02:11 AM (T1005)
Yup. I'm loaded with spirochetes.
Posted by: Sandy Fluke at September 12, 2013 10:14 PM (bufJH)
every day has human cells and everyone else....and the ones that run on
human DNA are outnumbered 9:1.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 02:11 AM (T1005)
Yup. I'm loaded with spirochetes.
Posted by: Sandy Fluke at September 13, 2013 02:14 AM (bufJH)
With you, honey, it's probably more like 20:1.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 10:15 PM (T1005)
every day has human cells and everyone else....and the ones that run on
human DNA are outnumbered 9:1.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 02:11 AM (T1005)
reminds me of Saya no Uta
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 10:16 PM (vJdyz)
every day has human cells and everyone else....and the ones that run on
human DNA are outnumbered 9:1.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 02:11 AM (T1005)
reminds me of Saya no Uta
Posted by: The Dude at September 13, 2013 02:16 AM (vJdyz)
In what way? [not a gamer]
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 10:18 PM (T1005)
http://semiaccurate.com/tag/xbox-one/
Charlie Demerjian tends to put out a lot of flame bait but the tech info is interesting.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2013 10:19 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 02:18 AM (T1005)
it's a spoiler but one of the main characters is a big blob of human flesh (or at least of the test tube variety) with human thought.
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 10:21 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 10:22 PM (vJdyz)
Yes! I read some intriguing studies about the role of gut flora and obesity. It well could be our little gut buggies are inducing us to eat what they like (via output "signal" chemicals that affect our system). It was absolutely fascinating. I think there was a study with lab mice, bred in a sterile enviroment where they could control the gut flora and all the bacterial composition, and they showed some type of gut bacteria did cause the mice to become fatter.
However, what you eat affects the gut flora balance too. So they can show that morbidly obese people have a different flora composition, that the flora likely do a play a role in the fat storage/burning process and appeite, but the causation chain is bit murkier.
So, perhaps we change our diets thanks to the modern highly processed industry that evolved (and did a lot of good things to make food plentiful, of course and it must be stressed to refute the "all coporate = evil" lefty nonsense), and our gut flora sort of changed and evolved in the process.
About the gut worms/parasites: That's something I've heard about, but don't know enough to know what I think.
Someone mentioned allergies above, and there's some argument I remember that the intestinal worms may actually "train" the immune system not to overreact (as a way of protecting itself against the human immune system). We evolved with them, and may need that effect as well.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 12, 2013 10:30 PM (JoWND)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 02:18 AM (T1005)
it's a spoiler but one of the main characters is a big blob of human flesh (or at least of the test tube variety) with human thought.
Posted by: The Dude at September 13, 2013 02:21 AM (vJdyz)
Hmmm....what is more interesting to me is how much being "human" seems to involve non-human DNA. It's almost as if human DNA exists to build a city, and microbiome DNA populates it.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 10:35 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 10:35 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 10:36 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 02:35 AM (T1005)
Which, of course, could get very creepy. What if sentience is an infectious disease? The reason that babies flail and their eyes don't focus is because they haven't "caught it" yet.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 10:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 10:39 PM (qyfb5)
And that the AMD conference at the end of the month should be interesting when it comes to 11.2 DX and the One.
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 10:40 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 02:36 AM (qyfb5)
That's where I'm at. Question is, what are the boundaries and chains of causation? If becoming an athlete is really forcing your body to favor one strain of bacteria over another, how 'bout we avoid the mess and just GM the one strain to dominate?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 10:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 10:43 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 12, 2013 10:44 PM (NLTDQ)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 02:38 AM (T1005)
Or since we're wildly speculation, what if obliviousness is an inherited symbiotic disease that normally goes into remission after birth. It's evolutionary function is to prevent premature brain development in a non-interactive environment.
If it is "cured" too early the brain develops neural pathways based on living in the womb and we call the development abnormal - autism or aspergers, perhaps.
If it never dies off, you get DMV employees.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 02:43 AM (qyfb5)
I like it! Could even go Shakespearian on it: "womb untimely ripp'd" and all that.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 10:46 PM (T1005)
I remember something about C-section babies tending to have more allergies that normal birth babies, and the argument was again, bacteria. During childbirth, the infant gets his first innoculation of bacteria from his mother's vagina, and vulva and well, "taint" I think.
C-section infants aren't exposed that, and that may be very important for a virgin immune system.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 12, 2013 10:46 PM (JoWND)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 10:47 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 10:47 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 10:48 PM (qyfb5)
If it never dies off, you get DMV employees.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 02:43 AM (qyfb5)
Whatever
Posted by: LIV at September 12, 2013 10:48 PM (bufJH)
C-section infants aren't exposed that, and that may be very important for a virgin immune system.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 13, 2013 02:46 AM (JoWND)
.....in which case, every C-section baby should get a quick aerosol spray of vaginal juices before being put in the incubator. Pffffffft.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 10:49 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 10:49 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 10:52 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 02:49 AM (qyfb5)
not a JRPG but rather a first person Wizardry style RPG
Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2013 10:52 PM (vJdyz)
C-section infants aren't exposed that, and that may be very important for a virgin immune system.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 13, 2013 02:46 AM (JoWND)
--It may not be just the micro-orgs, but also the total sensory experience. Our own babeh was C-section delivered (not by our choice), and while he is not 'tahded --he's certainly been clever enough to figure his way around barriers we set up for him-- he has struggled with aspects of motor and sensory experiences. For example, at 16 months he still does not drink from a sippy cup, and is loath to try new foods unless we force him to have a taste. It's also obvious we were too protective of him and won't make the same mistake next time around, if there is one.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 10:54 PM (bufJH)
Yep, I looked it up. C-section babies are 5 times more likely to develop allergies than normal. There is also a statistically significant link with autism and C-section births, although there is no proof of direct link, perhaps some other common factor.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 12, 2013 10:55 PM (JoWND)
Basically, terms of my old Mantra: "The universe is alive, it is aware, it knows you, it hates you, and it wants you to be unhappy."
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 02:52 AM (qyfb5)
That's probably a giant growth biz, if businesses weren't totally in "regulatory capture and over-regulation mode" -- purposefully crippled viruses and bacteria to spray on your newborn in lieu of vaccinations or horrible diseases later.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 10:56 PM (T1005)
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 13, 2013 02:55 AM (JoWND)
--Isn't autism supposed to be highly correlated with age of mother at birth? I'm not sure if that itself is also related to frequency of C-sections.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 10:57 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:00 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2013 11:00 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Up The Irons! at September 12, 2013 11:01 PM (Vk2pI)
Yeah, and let the kids play in the dirt. This hyper-safe, hypersanitized environment the modern strain of helicopter parent develops could well be screwing up their immune systems as well.
When I was little single digit age kid, I loved dirt and mud, and would run when I was told is was bath time. That was before the stinking sweat glands that turn on during puberty were activated, of course. And my hair and skin didn't get oily and I could days and days without a bath. Not a problem for a small child.
But now they get hypercleaning with antimicrobial soaps and all that.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 12, 2013 11:02 PM (JoWND)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 12, 2013 11:05 PM (fmjNz)
For example, at 16 months he still does not drink from a sippy cup, and is loath to try new foods unless we force him to have a taste.
Ah, yes. The joy of discovering that even a toddler has his/her own style and preferences. And top it off with lack of the verbal skills to communicate that - THIS is how I want it.
Then next month they change their minds about what is good. No wonder I'm balding
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 11:06 PM (KDUNf)
What's the summary of the ONT so far?
Posted by: Up The Irons! at September 13, 2013 03:01 AM (Vk2pI)
--Not necessarily in order:
Pats eke out win over Jest.
chique d'afrique is hot, smart, and single.
Merovign needs to ask her out.
Bloc Party rules.
Why we're fat and have so many welfare cases.
We're loaded with micro-organisms.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:06 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 12, 2013 11:06 PM (JoWND)
I remember something about C-section babies tending to have more
allergies that normal birth babies, and the argument was again,
bacteria. During childbirth, the infant gets his first innoculation of
bacteria from his mother's vagina, and vulva and well, "taint" I think.
C-section infants aren't exposed that, and that may be very important for a virgin immune system.
Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 13, 2013 02:46 AM (JoWND)
--It may not be just the micro-orgs, but also the total sensory experience. Our own babeh was C-section delivered (not by our choice), and while he is not 'tahded --he's certainly been clever enough to figure his way around barriers we set up for him-- he has struggled with aspects of motor and sensory experiences. For example, at 16 months he still does not drink from a sippy cup, and is loath to try new foods unless we force him to have a taste. It's also obvious we were too protective of him and won't make the same mistake next time around, if there is one.
Posted by: logprof at September 13, 2013 02:54 AM (bufJH)
Our 2nd godkid is....different. Unfortunately, his parents are seeking ways to send him through a standard college experience, with allowances. I think his talents lie elsewhere , and that setting him up with allowances will only hurt him in the long run.
In other good news, the employment demand for critical-LGBT-theory yoga advocates continues to flatline while there is a severe shortage of expert machinists.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:07 PM (T1005)
It had long been a mantra by the Left that businesses were evil because all they cared about was profit, and should instead be guided by more human values and dreams. Many businesses these days have adopted values as integral to their businesses. Yet values suddenly become evil when those values run counter to the LeftÂ’s own values. In those cases, we are now told that businesses should just care about the bottom line and that expressing their values is unbusiness-like and wrong!
More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3147
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 13, 2013 03:00 AM (Vk2pI)
--What, you have a blog?!?!
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:08 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 11:11 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: ......... at September 12, 2013 11:11 PM (/b8+5)
Just got back from an Iron Maiden concert.
What's the summary of the ONT so far?
Posted by: Up The Irons! at September 13, 2013 03:01 AM (Vk2pI)
--Not necessarily in order:
Pats eke out win over Jest.
chique d'afrique is hot, smart, and single.
Merovign needs to ask her out.
Bloc Party rules.
Why we're fat and have so many welfare cases.
We're loaded with micro-organisms.
Posted by: logprof at September 13, 2013 03:06 AM (bufJH)
I would [initially] laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.....and [later] wish 'em both mazel tov so much my heart could burst.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 11:15 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:11 AM (T1005)
--Which to me raises a question: Have we ever had a Moron-Moronette meet and pair up through the site --either directly or via a meet-up?
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:15 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:11 AM (T1005)
--Which to me raises a question: Have we ever had a Moron-Moronette meet and pair up through the site --either directly or via a meet-up?
Posted by: logprof at September 13, 2013 03:15 AM (bufJH)
I vaguely recall that there's been at least one....but it's a helluva question to be asking at this hour and level of intoxication.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:17 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2013 11:18 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: The Political Hat, who apparaently has a blog… at September 12, 2013 11:19 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:22 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:17 AM (T1005)
--Heh, your level of intoxication or mine?
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:22 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:23 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 11:24 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:17 AM (T1005)
--Heh, your level of intoxication or mine?
Posted by: logprof at September 13, 2013 03:22 AM (bufJH)
I was thinking mine. When I'm this many sheets to the wind, I'm lucky if I remember that I've got an open bottle before I cap the next one.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:24 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:22 AM (T1005)
That's a hell of a way to talk about a guy!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 03:24 AM (qyfb5)
So, are you gonna ask her?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:26 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Buzzion at September 12, 2013 11:27 PM (mxV2a)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 11:28 PM (qyfb5)
I would [initially] laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.....and [later] wish 'em both mazel tov so much my heart could burst.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:11 AM (T1005)
--Which
to me raises a question: Have we ever had a Moron-Moronette meet and
pair up through the site --either directly or via a meet-up?
Posted by: logprof at September 13, 2013 03:15 AM (bufJH)
I vaguely recall that there's been at least one....but it's a helluva question to be asking at this hour and level of intoxication.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:17 AM (T1005)
Chris in VA and girlfriday. Though she's used several different names. I believe she is the one who made a blad of Olympus cookie for a moron meetup kratos attended.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 13, 2013 03:27 AM (mxV2a)
Well, I'm glad somebody's sober.......and it's not me.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:29 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 11:29 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:22 AM (T1005)
That's a hell of a way to talk about a guy!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 03:24 AM (qyfb5)
So, are you gonna ask her?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:26 AM (T1005)
--LMAO, reminds me of the old Monday Night Football commercial where the shy boys friend pump him up to ask the girl he likes to dance by humming the MNF theme song.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:29 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Buzzion at September 13, 2013 03:27 AM (mxV2a)
--Awesome, although I'm only vaguely familiar with them.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:30 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 11:31 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 12, 2013 11:32 PM (j8JLb)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 03:29 AM (qyfb5)
--Sweet!
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:32 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 11:33 PM (qyfb5)
Now time to read up on CHF. Been a lot of medical tonight
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 11:33 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:26 AM (T1005)
I wouldn't impose my life on anyone the way it is now.
But we're talkin'.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 03:29 AM (qyfb5)
Good on ya, both! You're both wonderful people, in your own way [introverted].
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:35 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 11:35 PM (qyfb5)
several different names. I believe she is the one who made a blad of
Olympus cookie for a moron meetup kratos attended.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 13, 2013 03:27 AM (mxV2a)
--Awesome, although I'm only vaguely familiar with them.
Posted by: logprof at September 13, 2013 03:30 AM (bufJH)
Well that's because as soon as they hooked up they fell off the face of the earth
I've seen her only post very sporadically since, and him never.
Posted by: buzzion at September 12, 2013 11:37 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 11:38 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 11:40 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: buzzion at September 12, 2013 11:42 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 03:40 AM (qyfb5)
--Who is SOS?
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:43 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 12, 2013 11:45 PM (j8JLb)
Posted by: buzzion at September 13, 2013 03:42 AM (LI48c)
--Yup. Healthy, stable, and happy but still partially transborder.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:47 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2013 11:47 PM (Vk2pI)
I think I forgot to mention to the guy that a bunch of the 70s Playboys had signed centerfolds. My first job, started when I was fourteen, included a lot of spending time at events where the Playmates were attractions, especially the R.G. Caning Custom Car Shows.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2013 11:49 PM (kcfmt)
There's no there there as yet, but, you know, we bump into each other in the blog every now and then.
I ain't gonna be pushy or pushed, though, I understand introversion, I'm an introvert.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 03:35 AM (qyfb5)
Before I go on, I should note that I've met a couple of dozen morons, and they have all been wonderful peeps. I have yet to meet one that is an ungracious asshole (oh, but I'm sure he's out there somewhere......).
When I say, "laugh and laugh and laugh", I'm thinking more of Chique's "I always say that if I end up dating anyone he'll have to have practically fallen into my lap because I don't see myself expending any effort to actually meet anyone." comment. What more "falling into lap" could there be than this blog?
It would please me no end to have you both find happiness in each other's company....but that is very much a personal thing between the two of you and -- lest we forget: LOGISTICS!!!!!.
And if you don't find happiness with each other, I hope you both find happiness somewhere else. 'Cause you're both good folk.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:49 PM (T1005)
Kenosha, WI school system dumped their union. By a fairly heavy margin to boot.
http://tinyurl.com/l32a3gy
Posted by: PMRich at September 12, 2013 11:50 PM (KDUNf)
I think that's basically what happened to SOS, who has appeared a few times since The Story.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 03:40 AM (qyfb5)
I think that's the equivalent of "....and they lived happily ever after." -- or, at least, I hope so in the case of SoS and Hummingbird.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:51 PM (T1005)
And if you don't find happiness with each other, I hope you both find happiness somewhere else. 'Cause you're both good folk.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 03:49 AM (T1005)
--What you wrote.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:53 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Prison Shiv at September 12, 2013 11:54 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 12, 2013 11:55 PM (28TG+)
Posted by: buzzion at September 13, 2013 03:42 AM (LI48c)
The BH is having to cover a 6-3 shift, and they've got out-of-town trainers in, so she's effectively working a 6-5, 11-hour shift. This is the week (if any) where I get on the Big Board of Blog.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2013 11:55 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 11:56 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 11:56 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 03:56 AM (qyfb5)
--Ah, now I remember!
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:57 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 12, 2013 11:58 PM (qyfb5)
http://tinyurl.com/k8yycht
Posted by: Elvis at September 12, 2013 10:30 PM (MhA4j)
SOONÂ…
Posted by: Prison Shiv at September 13, 2013 03:54 AM (Vk2pI)
--WTF?
The only thing sicker are the pervs who rape infants.
Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2013 11:59 PM (bufJH)
I once sold enough file boxes of books to a book seller in Oregon (yes, that one) to scare the bejeebers out of a UPS driver.
I think it was 40 or 45 file boxes?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 13, 2013 03:58 AM (qyfb5)
I'm blowing scuba mags to a local dive club, aquarium mags to a local aquarium club, tossing business mags because they're based on actual business rather than cronyism, irresponsible Fed policy, and regulatory capture, and trying to set up a BYTE deal with epobirs and a computer mag deal with http://www.computerhistory.org/ -- lots of fun.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 12:05 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 13, 2013 12:09 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 13, 2013 12:15 AM (Vk2pI)
Pay the bills for a while.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 13, 2013 12:26 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 13, 2013 12:28 AM (qyfb5)
If nothing else, they'll get bundled with the stuff that I held back because GameDude was only going to give me a buck or less on them. Might work out well if I find the right buyer. I just have to undersell GameDude.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 13, 2013 12:36 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 12:45 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 13, 2013 12:47 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 13, 2013 12:47 AM (kcfmt)
They tend to go solely by visual inspection because it would take far too long to verify the readability of the discs. More often than not they're fine, so if I can minimize the blemish it should pass muster. If not, oh well, take it to other less convenient venues.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 13, 2013 12:50 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 13, 2013 12:50 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 13, 2013 12:51 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 01:01 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 13, 2013 01:08 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 01:13 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 01:15 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 01:16 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2013 01:18 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Jackie Chiles at September 13, 2013 01:29 AM (kyAWi)
I did read it, but it was kinda late and after some dubious meat loaf and mashed pertaters and my first dose of celebrex. Ever read those side effects?
I thought the Indian kid was saying the girls here were not as promiscuous as Hollywood portrayed them. Is that not what he said? I pictured him as like the '2 wild and crazy guys' from SNL, back when SNL was sorta funny. You know, kinda expecting girls to kick off their panties and spread their legs. Like in the bushes on the way home. Sorta.
Posted by: EROWMER at September 13, 2013 01:32 AM (OONaw)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 13, 2013 01:45 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: blindside at September 13, 2013 05:20 AM (x7g7t)
Posted by: Rob in Katy at September 13, 2013 05:48 AM (gdGJ1)
Home cooked food is not more expensive than high calorie junk food.
Roast + potatoes + carrots + gravy + home made buns to feed 6 people = $20.00
The same from McDonalds: $30.00 and no left overs.
Posted by: lance at September 13, 2013 09:10 AM (2orMQ)
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