September 15, 2013
— Maetenloch
Obama: Hey It's Just Style Points
President Obama says a tumultuous month as commander in chief, when his policy toward Syria took a number of unexpected turns, may not have looked "smooth and disciplined and linear," but it's working.
"I'm less concerned about style points. I'm much more concerned with getting the policy right," Obama told ABC's George Stephanopoulos in an exclusive interview on "This Week."
Jonathon Tobin: No You Lost More Than Just Style Points in Syria
By demonstrating his lack of will to act on what he has rightly labeled a human-rights catastrophe, President Obama has not only secured the Russian base in Syria; he has sent the region a signal that the U.S. is a paper tiger.
...Had President Obama not played Hamlet about acting on his own authority to strike Syria none of this needed to happen. Several months ago the Russians feared they were about to lose the last vestige of their once-formidable sphere of influence in the region as Assad tottered. Now they are back in business and Assad is even deeper in their debt than before. Bolstered by victory in Syria, Iran also has good reason to be more confident about stalling or even defying the West on the nuclear issue. All this is something Obama handed to them free of charge on a silver platter. That isn't "style" Mr. President; it's substance. And the consequences will be suffered by the people of Syria, regional allies like Israel, and an American people who, despite their justified worries about trusting Obama with military force in Syria, will soon realize that American prestige and influence has never been so low since Jimmy Carter sat in the White House.
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Remembering Meghan McCain's Dirty Sexy Politics
And Leon H. Wolf's brutal, disemboweling of a book review. It's hard to believe that it's been two years already.
On June 20, 2002, the United States Supreme Court decreed, in the case of Atkins v. Virginia, that the mildly mentally retarded were categorically exempt from capital punishment, reasoning that fully functional adults of diminished mental capacity were as a matter of law not as culpable for their acts. Writing eloquently in dissent, Justice Scalia drew a sharp distinction between the severely mentally retarded (who are truly not responsible for their actions), and the merely stupid (the category into which Mr. Atkins undoubtedly fell). Scalia argued forcefully that, with respect to the merely stupid, at least sometimes they deserve to be punished for their antisocial and destructive behavior.This article, of course, is not about capital punishment. It is a book review of Dirty, Sexy Politics by Meghan McCain. However, the above discussion is relevant because I initially had reservations about writing this book review at all. After all, it is clear to everyone who has read Meghan McCain's twitter feed, her "articles" on The Daily Beast, or her ill-fated campaign blog that Meghan is not a paragon of clear reasoning, exemplar of familiarity with facts, nor a model of English language expertise. And after subjecting myself to 194 continuous pages of her "writing," it became clear that none of the above-described works truly plumbed the depths of mental vacuity in which Ms. McCain aimlessly and cluelessly drifts.
This presented a dilemma.
It is impossible to read Dirty, Sexy Politics and come away with the impression that you have read anything other than the completely unedited ramblings of an idiot. This being a professional website for which I have a great deal of respect, I searched for a more eloquent or gentle way to accurately phrase the previous sentence - but could not find one.
And of course as ever Meghan fails upwards with a new TV show:
This is the series' structure: In each episode McCain learns something. As the show's title promises, the series is educating her and, by extension, Pivot's hoped-for young audience. A protagonist learning alongside the viewers is an effective storytelling technique, but only if there's a higher, already educated intelligence operating off screen. On camera, it's great to ask questions and play the naif, so long as someone off-camera knows where all those questions lead. Raising McCain doesn't seem to have that guiding intelligence.
OMG: The Scourge of Unregulated Dinner Parties
Inviting strangers into your home and feeding them must be limited and controlled by the government or else society will crumble!
The diners are a mix of New Yorkers and tourists. CBS 2's undercover cameras captured one experience - eight people who didn't know each other eating a meal in a stranger's home.That hostess, Naama Shafi, writes about food but is not a chef. [Reporter Tamara] Leitner found her through a website, which connects amateur foodies and professional chefs in 20 different countries with people who want unique dining experiences.
Clandestine dinner parties like the one Leitner attended have become more common in New York City. And insiders told Leitner they are completely unregulated.
Beware the Invasion of Boltzmann Brains
I wasn't even aware this was a threat:
A Boltzmann brain is a hypothesized self-aware entity which arises due to random fluctuations out of a state of chaos.
But not to worry the Higgs boson is likely to destroy us before the Boltzmann Brains.
How well do you know your now-gone vehicles?
Bad Idea #297: Rapist Prisoner, Female Therapist Do 'Reintegration' Therapy Alone in Woods
The therapist is now dead and the prisoner is on the run.
A man-hunt is underway in Switzerland after the body of a Swiss therapist was found dead in the woods in Switzerland just hours after she had escorted a convict on a reintegration to society session.Adeline Morel, a 34-year-old mother and therapist, went missing with Fabrice Anthamatten, 39, yesterday.
Her body was hidden in a bag in the woods in Versoix near the Swiss city.
Anthamatten had been charged with rapes going back more than 10 years.
French-born Anthamatten was serving out his sentence at Geneva's Champ-Dollon prison - he was convicted in both France and Switzerland on rape charges dating back as far as 2001.
Back then he was given a five-year sentence for rape and in 2003 he was given another 15 years.
The pair failed to show up for an equestrian therapy session scheduled for yesterday morning.
Heh: American 'Jihadi Rapper' Killed by Fellow Jihadists
The son of a Syrian Muslim father and a Baptist mother, who he once described as a "typical Southern protestant girl", Amriki came to international prominence when he posted a series of Youtube videos in which he rapped about jihad.
Mechanical Gears Seen in Nature For the First Time
Commenter slumber_j points to this New Yorker cartoon about "The subtext of all tattoos:" "Ask me about my parents' divorce."
A related subtext might be: "I come from a long line of rash decisionmakers." On women, tattoos often seem to imply: "Pay attention to me because I, obviously, make poor choices, so you might get lucky."
Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings
Top 10 commenters:
1 [519 comments] 'Jones in CO' [72.86 posts/day]
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Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
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4 [52 names] 'Adam'
5 [43 names] 't-bird'
6 [41 names] 'Boss Moss'
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The group. Yeah.
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Posted by: The Political Hat at September 15, 2013 06:27 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 15, 2013 06:32 PM (e8kgV)
And we all know my policy is to tear the US down.
Posted by: Barry at September 15, 2013 06:32 PM (1t6nr)
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Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at September 15, 2013 06:36 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 15, 2013 06:37 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 06:37 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2013 06:37 PM (EvHC8)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 15, 2013 06:38 PM (YD2FC)
This weekend, my wife had a dance workshop down at Wilmington, NC and I tagged along with her, and our son. Today before we left, we got to spend some time at the beach, which we haven't had done this year. We also got to see the NC contingent of the Freedom Riders coming back from DC for the 9/11 ride. They had police and fire fighters escorting them downtown. It took like 15-20 minutes for all of them to ride past us! That's a lot of bikers!
And, for BC and the other morons:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2hs1bvt.jpg
It's been a while.
Posted by: EC at September 15, 2013 06:39 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Vendette says Go Navy! Beat Army! at September 15, 2013 06:39 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: Gingy at September 15, 2013 06:40 PM (aH+zP)
BEARS WIN!!!!!!
BEARS WIN!!!!!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 15, 2013 10:37 PM (M1wQA)
yeah, yeah, they beat the suckiest team in the league, big deal.
Posted by: muttering vikings fan at September 15, 2013 06:40 PM (1t6nr)
watching Miss America. Talent competition been pretty weird so far. Lots of sing shouting, a River Dance routine, and a gal doing baton twirling with some do hickey on her leg. Does she have an artificial leg or injury or something
violinist from MN was really good
Posted by: thunderb at September 15, 2013 06:41 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: muttering vikings fan at September 15, 2013 06:41 PM (1t6nr)
Posted by: thunderb at September 15, 2013 06:42 PM (zOTsN)
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Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2013 06:42 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 06:43 PM (GEICT)
Heh, homemade cider.
Meh, they made a mess by not leaving enough room for the fermentation. I make a Graff cider that is pretty good with 4gal of apple juice, 0.5lb steeped crystal malt and 3lbs dme. (half amber, half pale.)
Nice tart taste, crisp and clean. Dry as hell though,
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at September 15, 2013 06:43 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: The dude at September 15, 2013 06:43 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2013 06:43 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: thunderb at September 15, 2013 06:43 PM (zOTsN)
Next question was if we should get into Syria
Posted by: thunderb at September 15, 2013 06:44 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2013 06:44 PM (EvHC8)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 10:43 PM (GEICT)
The horde needs pics of your wife's tattoo to render judgment. We don't for yours it was a bad decision. 
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at September 15, 2013 06:45 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: thunderb at September 15, 2013 06:45 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Vendette says Go Navy! Beat Army! at September 15, 2013 06:46 PM (CtSLQ)
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Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 06:46 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 10:37 PM (GEICT)
*passes over a shot* To Dale. Hasn't been the same since he left us.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 06:46 PM (Myqtp)
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Posted by: joncelli at September 15, 2013 06:46 PM (s7oCT)
Evening roonz and roonettez! Drive by comment, back to work now...
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Posted by: buzzion at September 15, 2013 06:48 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 06:48 PM (GEICT)
so Miss Kansas did not get a question so she is not going forward
last question was how we can decrease minority unemployment
this assholes ask these girls harder questions than the press asks the President
Posted by: thunderb at September 15, 2013 06:48 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Jmel at September 15, 2013 06:49 PM (cfFqn)
Jai Alai?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 15, 2013 06:49 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 15, 2013 06:50 PM (vgd4f)
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Posted by: t-bird at September 15, 2013 06:51 PM (FcR7P)
I was going to go dancing, but instead I said "fuck it" and decided to sit on my balcony smoking a cigar and listening to the rain. Much better plan.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 15, 2013 06:51 PM (lr3d7)
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Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2013 06:52 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 10:48 PM (GEICT)
Eh, I don't actually judge (well except for the lack of wife pictures!)
I personally don't do tattoos, not really a fan of permanent body modification, not opposed, it's just not my thing. (to fickle I guess, worry I'll end up not liking it.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at September 15, 2013 06:52 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 15, 2013 06:53 PM (jucos)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 15, 2013 06:53 PM (JMmQ9)
A couple were lucky guesses though.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 15, 2013 06:53 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: John McCain at September 15, 2013 06:53 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: The Lawnmower Hat at September 15, 2013 06:54 PM (Vk2pI)
That said, if my sister ever goes through with her threat to get a lower back tattoo, I'm going on a murderous rampage through Portland.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 15, 2013 06:54 PM (lr3d7)
I was going to go dancing, but instead I said "fuck it" and decided to sit on my balcony smoking a cigar and listening to the rain. Much better plan.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 15, 2013 10:51 PM (lr3d7)
Is it still raining there? Noticed any of your neighbors discussing the length of a cubit, lately?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 06:54 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: buzzion at September 15, 2013 10:48 PM (LI48c)
I know this because twitchy said "pivot president won't allow people to [mock the show]"
And it thought "what the fuck is Obama talking about this show for?" then I realized pivot was the network! (although Obama is the pivot president)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at September 15, 2013 06:55 PM (GaqMa)
Call me 40 years behind the times but I still love the original 1963 recording of Bill Cosby's Noah comedy routine.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 06:56 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 06:56 PM (GEICT)
Is it still raining there? Noticed any of your neighbors discussing the length of a cubit, lately?
Call me 40 years behind the times but I still love the original 1963 recording of Bill Cosby's Noah comedy routine.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 06:56 PM (xY8+2)
Is it still raining there? Noticed any of your neighbors discussing the length of a cubit, lately?
It's been raining on and off all day. It's not too bad. It keeps my allergies from flaring up.
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Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 15, 2013 10:53 PM (jucos)
THIS ^^^^^^^^ I just had a conversation about this with a guy in line at the c-store to buy moar beer. When we see a player do this, we'll stop practice, bring everybody in, and instruct AGAIN to never ever ever do that.
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Posted by: Brian Setzer at September 15, 2013 07:01 PM (1t6nr)
I also still have some good Love Boat memories.
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Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 07:02 PM (T1005)
That helmet thing is a HUGE burr in my saddle. Kids are all looking to make that highlight NFL style hit by launching and leading with the head. I will not let them play if they do so. Major no no. Tough to instruct against what the pros are doing. It really makes me mad. There is a technique to tackling that has done missing from the pro game.... to it's detriment I believe.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 15, 2013 07:02 PM (jucos)
Posted by: joncelli at September 15, 2013 07:02 PM (s7oCT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 10:56 PM (GEICT)
Nose pickers don't care if you don't pick your nose.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 15, 2013 07:02 PM (CWLFZ)
It is nice when they're tasteful and not just huge swath of random pictures off of a Mormon fridge.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at September 15, 2013 10:59
About the only ones I can't stand are the the Sydney Leathers type, or just the giant wings on the back, or the girls that decide to ruin their boobs with a giant tat right across the middle of their chest.
Posted by: buzzion at September 15, 2013 07:02 PM (LI48c)
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Posted by: Vendette says Go Navy! Beat Army! at September 15, 2013 07:03 PM (CtSLQ)
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Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 15, 2013 11:02 PM (jucos)
Not looking at us I hope?!?!?!
Posted by: ESPN at September 15, 2013 07:06 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Nanny Nanny Boo Boo at September 15, 2013 07:06 PM (ELdpj)
Producer and Pivot President Evan Shapiro was checking out reviews on the #RaisingMcCain hashtag and didn't like what he was seeing. He tore into John particularly and John gave much better than he got
For a guy running a new network, Evan Shapiro is not a very bright guy. He looks Joe Hollywood Player, but he comes across as a guy who found a sponsor who let him play "Sim City 5; TV Network Exec Expansion Pack"
John's twitter is https://twitter.com/JohnEkdahl
Posted by: kbdabear at September 15, 2013 07:07 PM (/9IC1)
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Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at September 15, 2013 07:08 PM (xY8+2)
Kind of like Mr Rogers without the guy in the sweater who actually knows stuff
Posted by: kbdabear at September 15, 2013 07:08 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 07:08 PM (CtSLQ)
That rapist therapy seems eerily similar to the Black Communist hate America therapy we're getting.
*spit*
Posted by: torabora at September 15, 2013 07:08 PM (x9LZG)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 11:05 PM (T1005)
Same here, I got click happy...that and chitty chitty bang bang fooled me.
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 15, 2013 07:09 PM (FIDMq)
saw a grandma with a tie dye peace symbol on her right shoulder blade
also tons of middle aged, 50 plus, with tattoos on ankles, shamrocks, roses, etc
Posted by: thunderb at September 15, 2013 07:09 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: The dude at September 15, 2013 07:09 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 15, 2013 07:09 PM (RLdcX)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 15, 2013 07:09 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Lauren at September 15, 2013 07:10 PM (ELdpj)
Missus Soze sure can bring it, and has often brung it. Amen
Posted by: Keyser Soze at September 15, 2013 07:10 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 10:58 PM (GEICT)
The biggest challenge being that kids see this shit on TV and emulate it. Putting the hat down and launching off both legs into the opposing player like that dumbass on my Redskins did twice today...the second time hurting himself, duh. If the NFL would really punish these hits harshly (not just cash penalties but game suspensions) it might stop reduce these kinds of hits. But TruckMonkey's suggestion to go back to leather helmets with no facemask is a great solution.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 07:10 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 15, 2013 07:10 PM (jucos)
Now, the sorority girls that came into the parlor on a whim utterly disgusted me with their "BFF" tattoo ideas. But, as the saying goes: "Stupid is forever."
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 15, 2013 07:10 PM (kMnHs)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at September 15, 2013 11:08 PM (xY8+2)
Is your husband's body on display in a museum, somewhere?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 07:11 PM (T1005)
Underground dinner parties aren't just people inviting friends over for dinner. They are usually random strangers invited to someone's house and they charge a lot of money for the meal and the meals are cooked by professional chefs. At least here they are.
I don't know, food trucks annoy me more. But I understand that in this economy it is cheaper for chefs to get a food truck and they do have to meet minimum health department standards so I guess I need to get over the whole "roach coach" idea. I have had awesome food out of food trucks here. gourmet grilled cheese. meat pies. lumpia.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 15, 2013 07:11 PM (RZ8pf)
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Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 15, 2013 11:02 PM (jucos)
I would say get out of my head, but you're right and this needs to be shouted from the mountaintops. To football players at least. I'd really like to buy you a beer or two sometime I'm back in DC.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 07:14 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 15, 2013 11:11 PM (FlRtG)
_______________
Rugby is a GREAT game. Those guys are incredible and talented. Look at their form when they go to contact.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 15, 2013 07:14 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 07:15 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at September 15, 2013 11:08 PM (xY8+2)
Is your husband's body on display in a museum, somewhere?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 11:11 PM (T1005)
He buys her clothes. I'm not joking.
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 11:13 PM (CtSLQ)
The only two things I want to know about Pelosi is the day she retires from politics, and date she enters into eternal hellfire.....and the sooner I find out, the better-off this country will be.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 07:16 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 15, 2013 07:17 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 07:17 PM (CtSLQ)
I'd twerk it in the morning,
I'd twerk it in the evening,
All over this land...
Posted by: Mary at September 15, 2013 11:16 PM (1t6nr)
I told you we should have never let her out of the house.
Posted by: Peter and Paul at September 15, 2013 07:17 PM (xY8+2)
"The subtext of all tattoos:" "Ask me about my parents' divorce."
My brothers (Thing1 and Thing2) and I are all inked. Our parents were happily married for 45yrs when my mom passed away. Hubbymayhem? Inked, parents happily married until death parted them.
"On women, tattoos often seem to imply: "Pay attention to me because I, obviously, make poor choices, so you might get lucky."
Ummmm........ Nope! Only been with 2 men ever. I married both of them. Lost one to cancer when we were both 30yrs old. 6yrs of lonesome later, I met, fell for, and married hubbymayhem. No hookups or one nite stands, not slutting around. Only let this feller close when I was certain he could and would love my son like his own.
Posted by: madamemayhem at September 15, 2013 07:17 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: Reggie 1971 at September 15, 2013 07:18 PM (Eoc5N)
So, no free throw / jump shot mastery in basketball, no tackling mastery in football, the boys of summer are juicing, and NASCAR has been sanitized and homogenized.
I feel so damned old.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 15, 2013 07:19 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 15, 2013 11:02 PM (jucos)
I would say get out of my head, but you're right and this needs to be shouted from the mountaintops. To football players at least. I'd really like to buy you a beer or two sometime I'm back in DC.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 11:14 PM (Myqtp)
My dad has been bitching about poor tackling for years. I also remember being in junior high football and in the locker room was a very big poster saying don't lead with your head. If the NFL were actually serious they would make things much more strict with regards to tackling, and the fines and penalties they hand out. Will never happen. And that is also why guys are able to break 3-4 "tackles" during a play.
Posted by: buzzion at September 15, 2013 07:19 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 07:19 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: LadyS at September 15, 2013 07:21 PM (oTXXN)
Raymond Loewy, who'd know, called Russian limos "Drakcap".
Sickening, before WWII Packard was one of the most beautiful cars in the world. They parked with the Deusies; Cads pulled over for them to pass, and had to wave first. And Packard made the PT boat engines, most of the Merlins, and the first diesel airplane. They just couldn't build a small car.
Once fenders became part of the bodywork, a bathtub Nash looked good by comparison. Front end looked like a cartoon face of "not being able to make up your mind." Right at the end, the Caribbean was sharp, but had (again, Loewy) way too much grille. Torsion bar suspension, terrific interior, v.good (but, natch, heavy) V8 engine.
After the "merger," the Packard version of the Hawk was something you'd never forget. One way or the other.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 15, 2013 07:21 PM (JNUY4)
Posted by: Vendette has two brothers at September 15, 2013 07:21 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 15, 2013 07:22 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 15, 2013 07:22 PM (jucos)
- Ford Edsel
- Chevrolet Corvair
- Ford Pinto
- AMC Gremlin
- Pontiac Aztek
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 07:23 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 15, 2013 07:24 PM (vgd4f)
About the only ones I can't stand are the the Sydney Leathers type, or just the giant wings on the back, or the girls that decide to ruin their boobs with a giant tat right across the middle of their chest.
I loved formal military dinners because you got to see a parade of E-4s bringing in their girlfriends who all wore backless dresses to show off their angel wings.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 15, 2013 07:25 PM (lr3d7)
- Ford Edsel
- Chevrolet Corvair
- Ford Pinto
- AMC Gremlin
- Pontiac Aztek
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 11:23 PM (xY8+2)
Back of the class...you fail
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 15, 2013 07:26 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Vendette has two brothers at September 15, 2013 07:26 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: DaveA at September 15, 2013 07:27 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: mindful webworker - argyle at September 15, 2013 07:27 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: hack at September 15, 2013 07:27 PM (CwqiX)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 07:28 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Vendette has two brothers at September 15, 2013 07:28 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: Vendette has two brothers at September 15, 2013 11:26 PM (CtSLQ)
It's a feature not a bug. yeah I'm a perv and denounce myself blah blah blah
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 07:29 PM (Myqtp)
Thanks Vendette! I have a thing about folks who constantly judge everyone by ink. Just 'cause I wear ink does not mean I'm a barfly with a tramp stamp. Hubby and I got the tats as a wedding gift to one another.
And yeh, my boy spawn got two awesome dads. He was only 2and a half when his biological died but the newer model is top notch and the kid calls him dad. Acts just like the man sometimes too.
I have call the brothers thing one and thing two for years. I also call them something else. My dads name is Larry. I have been known to introduce pop and the boys with " This is my dad Larry. And my brothers Daryl and Daryl."
They don't find that as amusing as I do. Odd that really.
Posted by: madamemayhem at September 15, 2013 07:30 PM (S2RnE)
I've never seen my newly-minted O-5 (USN) in his dress uniform. I'd like to.
Posted by: Vendette has two brothers at September 15, 2013 11:28 PM (CtSLQ)
I loved an excuse to put on my blues, with blue suspenders and a black bow tie (a real bow tie, not one of those clip-on monstrosities!).
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 15, 2013 07:31 PM (lr3d7)
- Ford Edsel
- Chevrolet Corvair
- Ford Pinto
- AMC Gremlin
- Pontiac Aztek
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 11:23 PM (xY8+2)
Looks like you're 0 for 5, there. It wasn't even that -- they had a pic, then the model name, and three choices for make....and the pic was from somewhere odd in the model's evolution, not the most iconic version.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 07:31 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981
_____________Hmmm, so you're Irish? LOL
Do you know where your Cochran's came from in IRE? Mine were from Donegal, back in the 1700's. I'd like to trace them further, but it's dicey back that far.
Posted by: The Farmer at September 15, 2013 07:32 PM (eBupg)
Also, could I ask the Horde for some advice? Making Manwiches for dinner tonight. Think of me as a 47-year-old latchkey kid. Any ideas on how to sexy 'em up? Tabasco? Cumin? Cheese? Shredded NSA documents?
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 07:33 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 07:34 PM (GEICT)
Oh, come on! Let the F*ing Russians have Syria. Eat that dog food Russia. You made it, now eat it!
If every Syrian somehow found a sheet in their cell tonight and hung themselves, would one hand clap in the forest or anything ... ahhh, No !
Let's not get stuuupid and start giving a rats-ass now, at this late date, when it benefits the communist leaders of this country and the communist leaders of Russia, for Christ sake! Let's just find a way to F* this Barack guy and all of his friends and allies , like, continuously. No quarter!
Posted by: and irresolute at September 15, 2013 07:35 PM (RqHWH)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 15, 2013 07:35 PM (YNK3y)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2013 07:35 PM (DmNpO)
Good evening, good people. Discussing tattoos, I see.
Got no opinion on them--a major turnoff for me is hardware stuck in lips, eyebrows and such.
Disgusting.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 15, 2013 07:36 PM (SAMxH)
Lots and lots of chopped garlic.
Posted by: mmm mmm good at September 15, 2013 07:36 PM (1t6nr)
Also, could I ask the Horde for some advice? Making Manwiches for dinner tonight. Think of me as a 47-year-old latchkey kid. Any ideas on how to sexy 'em up? Tabasco? Cumin? Cheese? Shredded NSA documents?
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 11:33 PM (xY8+2)
I do a jiffy-lube every time my 1000's are divisible by 3, and my Accord has well-over 200K miles.
Go with the cheese.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 07:36 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 15, 2013 07:36 PM (YNK3y)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 15, 2013 07:37 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 07:37 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 15, 2013 07:38 PM (zZJJp)
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 07:38 PM (CtSLQ)
Fun Fact: 3650 other people have taken this quiz with an average score of 78%
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 15, 2013 11:35 PM (DmNpO)
Half of them from this blog. The ones who comment got 100% or missed one....the lurkers, well.......
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 07:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2013 07:39 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 15, 2013 07:39 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 15, 2013 07:39 PM (JMmQ9)
Maybe they should have gone to the equestrian therapy *first*, then I am sure he would have been fine.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 15, 2013 11:38 PM (zZJJp)
I completely agree.
Posted by: Catherine the Great at September 15, 2013 07:40 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 11:38 PM (CtSLQ)
No, you're right of course.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 07:40 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: fluffy at September 15, 2013 07:40 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 07:41 PM (XyrkB)
http://youtu.be/ZC5P8lRD-X0
Posted by: The Dude at September 15, 2013 07:41 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: madamemayhem at September 15, 2013 07:41 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2013 07:43 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 07:43 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: and irresolute at September 15, 2013 07:43 PM (RqHWH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 07:45 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 07:46 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Mister Ed at September 15, 2013 07:46 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 15, 2013 07:47 PM (YNK3y)
Posted by: fluffy at September 15, 2013 07:47 PM (z9HTb)
Was tooling through a fascinating web site earlier named English Russia.
It's a blog chronicling all things Russian. They have archives going back to the dissolution of the USSR.
One of the most interesting things is the number of military bases that were absolutely abandoned--as in literally walked away from.
There are pics of fighters that were front line at the time, simply sitting on concrete runways, deteriorating. No effort at all made for preservation. Along with trucks, barracks, etc just rotting away. I had NO idea they had so much stuff.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 15, 2013 07:47 PM (SAMxH)
Maybe I should get a tattoo. For the children.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 15, 2013 07:47 PM (JNUY4)
Posted by: Patrick at September 15, 2013 07:48 PM (b6koZ)
Posted by: and irresolute at September 15, 2013 07:49 PM (RqHWH)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 07:50 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: madamemayhem at September 15, 2013 07:51 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 15, 2013 07:51 PM (YNK3y)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac in the OBX at September 15, 2013 07:51 PM (fC5if)
Posted by: Vendette is a blood donor at September 15, 2013 07:51 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 11:43 PM (CtSLQ)
Mmmm free USB bourbon. My favorite! You realize, however, that I'll now have to spend much of the night searching the internets for photo and video evidence to prove your point. Because I care. 
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 07:52 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: stuiec at September 15, 2013 07:52 PM (G/C31)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 07:52 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 07:52 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: Patrick at September 15, 2013 07:53 PM (b6koZ)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 15, 2013 07:53 PM (RLdcX)
Posted by: and irresolute at September 15, 2013 07:53 PM (RqHWH)
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 07:54 PM (Myqtp)
Also, it's not applicable tonight but something I've always wondered about. If a woman makes your Manwich sandwiches for you, are they still Manwiches? Womynwiches? Transwiches? Cis-genderedwiches? The whole liberal zeitgeist nowadays has me so dang confused.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 07:54 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 15, 2013 07:54 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Patrick at September 15, 2013 11:48 PM (b6koZ)
She wants to appear in a James Bond film?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 07:54 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Patrick at September 15, 2013 07:55 PM (b6koZ)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 15, 2013 07:55 PM (zZJJp)
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 07:55 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: HrothgarJournalist par excellence at September 15, 2013 07:56 PM (XdnQT)
-----------------
I've been looking for you....
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at September 15, 2013 07:56 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 07:56 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 15, 2013 07:56 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 07:56 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 11:55 PM (CtSLQ)
Yes, Coach. After the game, of course.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 07:57 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 07:57 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 15, 2013 07:58 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Butch at September 15, 2013 07:58 PM (EV3Uf)
---------
While riding north up into Virginia this weekend, I met a *lot* of Southbound Harley riders.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at September 15, 2013 07:58 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The Broccoli Hat at September 15, 2013 07:58 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 15, 2013 07:59 PM (vgd4f)
Yeah, you gotta hope for a few black sheep in da family. Criminals and miscreants are the ones who make the papers and leave copious court records.
Posted by: dissent555 at September 15, 2013 07:59 PM (yR6A1)
Posted by: Patrick at September 15, 2013 08:00 PM (b6koZ)
Posted by: Vendette at September 15, 2013 08:01 PM (CtSLQ)
We didn't get the memo until too late to arrange going. Planning on going next yr. The media (spit) just straight up ignored it. And the traffic cams? Holy shit! Not one fucking bike in sight on the cams. One showed the same fucking truck making the same turn over and over and another showed snow on the ground.
One of the commenters on the FB page said she called her congress critter office and asked the drone on the phone if they heard the bikes and the drone said "Oh yeah we....uhh no! No! We don't know what you're talking about".
Even Fox news pretty much ignored the whole thing. Did a 30 second blurb about it and didn't even mention the FACT that even the D.C. police said there were between 1.0 and 1.2 MILLION bikes there.
Someone mobilized 1.2 MILLION patriots to march on D.C. in less than a month and the damned media shut down any talk about it. Anyone who thinks the media is NOT the biggest reason why we keep losing elections needs to think again.
Posted by: madamemayhem at September 15, 2013 08:01 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: Dana Carvey at September 15, 2013 08:03 PM (1t6nr)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 15, 2013 08:03 PM (RZP0w)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 15, 2013 08:03 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac in the OBX at September 15, 2013 08:04 PM (fC5if)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 15, 2013 08:04 PM (YNK3y)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 08:05 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: madamemayhem at September 15, 2013 08:06 PM (S2RnE)
Saw some girl at a game with a huge Broccoli surrounded by other
vegetables in the middle of her chest. I must could not stop looking at
it. Why Broccoli?
Posted by: Patrick at September 15, 2013 11:48 PM (b6koZ)
She wants to appear in a James Bond film?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 11:54 PM (T1005)
OK, be that way. "Cubby" Broccoli produced most of the Bond films -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_R._Broccoli .
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 08:07 PM (T1005)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 08:07 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: HrothgarJournalist par excellence at September 15, 2013 08:08 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Joe at September 15, 2013 08:08 PM (8Prb7)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 08:08 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 15, 2013 08:09 PM (zZJJp)
Posted by: Media Establishment at September 15, 2013 08:09 PM (1t6nr)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:09 PM (dK34c)
Oooh, that was like 1991, right?
May as well have been last week...
Posted by: navybrat at September 15, 2013 08:10 PM (0OlZi)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 08:10 PM (xY8+2)
Bikers? What?
Oh, and stand by for our five-part series on the cultural implications of the huge resurgence of the Coffee Party. They're up to 16 members now.
Posted by: The MSM, Now With 20% More Integrity at September 15, 2013 08:11 PM (bC7sW)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac in the OBX at September 15, 2013 08:11 PM (fC5if)
And rugby tackles should be the goal for football tackles...wrap em up and take em down. I hate watching guys dive in for the knees and whiff.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 08:11 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: madamemayhem at September 15, 2013 08:12 PM (S2RnE)
tattoo as symbol of something is fine, tattoo as portable art, or wanna be tough guy is just sad.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 16, 2013 12:09 AM (zZJJp)
I had a friend who is a famous tattoo artist in LA. She says people getting flash can often be a Jackass trying to turn itself into a zebra. But people who get a lot of ink thats custom and nice usually have a reason beyond "I wanna look cool."
I have a large piece of custom ink, but when i am dressed you cannot see it.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 15, 2013 08:12 PM (r7Ddb)
Fellow drunkards, how is everyone doing this fine evening?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2013 12:09 AM (dK34c)
*Hic*
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 08:12 PM (T1005)
Just got back from taking my daughter and granddaughter back to Texas. Miss them already...hell, I started missing them before I got a mile away.
Now, the lightning round....
Got 92% on the car quiz. Missed the Packard.
Tats? Get 'em if you want 'em. I don't want 'em, so I don't have 'em.
NFL: Sorry, just don't care.
EC, your wife is still gorgeous.
And, since I just realized I've never said it here....Obama is a SCOAMF.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 15, 2013 08:14 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:14 PM (dK34c)
One of these days I'm gonna pay the money for ancestry.com.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 15, 2013 11:34 PM
________I tried to find your email on your excellent website, but failed. It's late and I've a few beers, well tequila too. I'm off work tomorrow 
.
Let's keep in touch on tracking down the Cochran clan.
Regards,
Terence (good Irish name)
Posted by: The Farmer at September 15, 2013 08:14 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2013 12:09 AM (dK34c)
Getting drunkarder on my one day off this month. Hey bebe, hope you're doing well.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 08:15 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 08:15 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:16 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 08:16 PM (EB3Nv)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 15, 2013 08:18 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 08:18 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:20 PM (dK34c)
Saw some girl at a game with a huge Broccoli surrounded by other
vegetables in the middle of her chest. I must could not stop looking at
it. Why Broccoli?
because you should eat your veggies.
Posted by: thunderb at September 15, 2013 08:20 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 08:21 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:22 PM (dK34c)
Meh. Tattooed myself several times during my career for free, not paying anyone to inflict pain.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 15, 2013 08:22 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 15, 2013 08:22 PM (zZJJp)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:23 PM (dK34c)
Meggie Mac is the pro-ta-gone-ist. She looks like a bottle, bottle-n-a-half of Raid blue label.
Posted by: Plinkett at September 15, 2013 08:25 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 15, 2013 08:25 PM (zZJJp)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2013 12:20 AM (dK34c)
Sucks you're so tired but awesome that your house is in great shape. That's a lotta work I'm sure!
*waves frenetically and drunkenly at Bebe and Gushka*
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 08:26 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 08:26 PM (XyrkB)
Posted by: Apostic at September 15, 2013 08:27 PM (72Nf4)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2013 12:23 AM (dK34c)
She can have my Brady for whatever she wants to do with him.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 08:27 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at September 15, 2013 08:27 PM (aDwsi)
I'd rather hang with the horde. But does the horde want to hang with me?
(dun-da-DUNNNNNNNN!)
(Bows to all the 'ettes. You honor us with your presence. (Is that over the top?)
)Posted by: Captain Whitebread at September 15, 2013 08:27 PM (5J54Q)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 15, 2013 08:29 PM (51MAt)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 08:29 PM (XyrkB)
I tell phlebotomists, when I'm breaking 'em in -- just imagine that I'm sitting here, and you're going to place a live angry rattlesnake on my chest. Then, when you're done, you're going to pick him up and carry him off. If you get tempted to tell me about how it won't hurt and how little I'll feel the needle, just try telling someone with that snake on his chest how the rattlesnake hardly weighs anything and is hardly noticeable.
That said, I've seen some nice tats (which I don't like to think about how they got there) and I've seen some wildly inappropriate ones. As mentioned above, a small bass clef on the bass side seemed appropriate and amusing.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 08:30 PM (T1005)
http://news.yahoo.com/ferrell-kerrick-police-unarmed-shooting-charlotte-191520307.html
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 15, 2013 08:30 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 15, 2013 08:30 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:31 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 15, 2013 08:32 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:33 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 08:34 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 16, 2013 12:30 AM (T1005)
I don't mind seeing a small bass or treble clef on a girl, because it's usually discrete and usually means that she's a musician so it gives me a starting point for a conversation.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 15, 2013 08:34 PM (lr3d7)
Coothie!!!!! So whats the plan for your and the bh's trip down here?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2013 12:16 AM (dK34c)
Don't know the Disney days yet -- it'll be somewhere between 11/4 and 11/11. I've got family down there, I grew up and went to school down there, there's Disney in the works, there's a D23 special Disney Studio tour that the BH has in the works, she's got a VP of Sales for her company down that way who she's thinking of having dinner with, she's thinking of the Reagan Library......so it's, er, somewhat fluid at present. I'd expect it to gel in early October.
Incidentally, she's off to NC again in less than a week, so we're focused more on nearer perils.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 08:35 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Shonuff at September 15, 2013 08:36 PM (gaxli)
For anyone interested in the 2 Millions Bikers to D.C. ride The Blaze had some good stuff about it. They also have a facebook page. Don't look to the mfm or even Fox, those assholes ignored it.
Goodnight everyone! Sleep sweet.
Posted by: madamemayhem at September 15, 2013 08:36 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 16, 2013 12:18 AM (l3vZN)
That sounds totally worth it.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 08:36 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 15, 2013 08:37 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 15, 2013 08:37 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 08:38 PM (6TV0b)
I do invite Bebe and Gushka to TP my ass to anything, anytime...for my own safety of course.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 08:38 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: DAve at September 15, 2013 08:38 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:38 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:40 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 16, 2013 12:37 AM (KL49F)
Or even better, stand for election yourself. Contrary to what the left would have us believe, leadership in this country is does not require that you go to all the "correct" schools.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 15, 2013 08:40 PM (lr3d7)
Not looking like a doofus on the world stage is not "style points", it's called leadership. Something he has no clue about.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 15, 2013 08:41 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 08:41 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2013 12:40 AM
heheheh eh heheh eh heheh...
Posted by: beavis at September 15, 2013 08:43 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 15, 2013 08:43 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:43 PM (dK34c)
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 15, 2013 08:44 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 15, 2013 08:44 PM (XyrkB)
Humidty and giant bugs. scary.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2013 12:38 AM (dK34c)
Well, she's going to High Point, so it's starting to go up the hills -- a bit less humid (although there are a ridiculous amount of swamps in the area....and you SoCal folks know what I mean....even more than one -- more than an artificial one -- an artificial one in a building -- an artificial one in a building with a restaurant and a boat ride inside -- and pirates).
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 08:44 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Your God-King Obama (PBUM) at September 15, 2013 08:44 PM (Vk2pI)
"Ribeye or Die"
http://rare.us/story/ribeye-or-die/
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 08:46 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Your God-King Obama (PBUM) at September 16, 2013 12:44 AM (Vk2pI)
I know O thinks he's king, but our Constitution says otherwise. This bartender acts like we don't have representatives to call (I know, they ignore us too, but Cruz still thinks a tsunami of grassroots can help and so do I; thanks to the Tea Party).
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 15, 2013 08:47 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: gushie can has mobile phone at September 15, 2013 08:48 PM (q/2Wr)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 16, 2013 12:35 AM (T1005)
Ask her to email me...I owe her dinner somewhere, sometime. I know I dropped off the radar the last few months, work's been pretty much a constant, and my social life is pretty much nonexistent. Your BH is good people, and I'd like to hang out and share a good meal again soon. Plus I have a few suggestions on avoiding the humidity and giant bugs.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 08:48 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:49 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2013 12:43 AM (dK34c)
YES WE CAN!
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 08:50 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:52 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2013 12:52 AM (dK34c)
I'm a guy. I notice these things.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 15, 2013 08:52 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:56 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 08:56 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 15, 2013 08:57 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 15, 2013 08:57 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 15, 2013 08:59 PM (dK34c)
I'm out too....work comes awfully early in the afternoon. G'night morons, y'all are the best.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 08:59 PM (Myqtp)
I think we'll see tiny MEMs implants, similar to the tech used in Mirasol displays, that will act as pixels that can change color on demand. Going to a formal occasion? Make the color match your skin. Going to a birthday party? Program your skin to display an animated message wishing the guest of honor well. When you can receive a text message to be displayed on your forearm, why bother with a smart watch bonded to the phone in your pocket?
A lot of the tech is already there and research into medical diagnostics is bringing a lot of it together. The first product will be for practical use but the cosmetic will soon follow.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 15, 2013 09:02 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: gushie can has mobile phone at September 15, 2013 09:02 PM (q/2Wr)
My mom used to be a professor of mathematics, so she was in academia and would do all the academic stuff. This included being on the textbook committee for her school system for what we now call STEM.....so, bathroom reading when I was a kid tended to be stacks of "evaluation copies" of science texts.
I understand that most of y'all haven't seen more than one science text at a time, but I can tell you that there are probably more similarities than differences....and one similarity is that the "phases of matter" section of a physics textbook always uses stock photos of snowflakes, blown up to be about 3" across.
Of course, when you're an impressionable kid, you start thinking....."all those photos with those snowflakes......jeebus, that's the size of those widgets Kwai-Chang Caine is chuckin' in the intro!" and you start getting a bit worried that being caught in a snowstorm would be getting pelted by shuriken of ice coming out of the sky. Of course, when you woke up to find snow on the ground, it didn't look anything like that.....but, then, it was also half-melted.
Maybe those 3" snow crystals shattered when they hit.....but, if you looked up at the wrong time, one could spear your eyeball on a spike. If your had was bare, you might even lose a finger!
As I got older and became more familiar with The Lands Beyond The Mountains, I understood that my concerns might be a bit.....overwrought. But I'm still a little twitchy at the thought.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:02 PM (T1005)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 09:05 PM (6TV0b)
GM; Pontiac, Saturn, Oldsmobile, Geo
Ford; Mercury, Edsel
Chrysler; Plymouth, Eagle, Imperial, DeSoto
Defunct or merged companies; AMC, Studebaker, DeLorean, Avanti, Packard, Hudson, Nash, Willys, Kaiser
Posted by: kbdabear at September 15, 2013 09:06 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:07 PM (T1005)
Posted by: RWC - NSA Grunt at September 15, 2013 09:08 PM (6TV0b)
GM; Pontiac, Saturn, Oldsmobile, Geo
Ford; Mercury, Edsel
Chrysler; Plymouth, Eagle, Imperial, DeSoto
Defunct or merged companies; AMC, Studebaker, DeLorean, Avanti, Packard, Hudson, Nash, Willys, Kaiser
Posted by: kbdabear at September 16, 2013 01:06 AM (/9IC1)
Hummer
Posted by: buzzion at September 15, 2013 09:10 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 16, 2013 01:02 AM (kcfmt)
I just want a cellphone implant and AR optics
Posted by: The Dude at September 15, 2013 09:10 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at September 15, 2013 09:11 PM (Vk2pI)
Cthulhu...winter of '87 or so, maybe '88...we had snowfall in LA...I made and threw a snowball on the corner of Manchester and Lincoln...Bebe and I talked about it over some drinks which proves it happened. Look forward to hearing from the BH, thanks, she's good people. And now for reals, I'm out. Laters....
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 09:14 PM (Myqtp)
They were popular as modified drag racers, light and so basic they were easy to squeeze a small block Chevy, Ford, or Mopar into
Posted by: kbdabear at September 15, 2013 09:15 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 15, 2013 09:15 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at September 16, 2013 01:11 AM (Vk2pI)
If it's a problem, you might want to put some ice on that.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 15, 2013 09:16 PM (Myqtp)
GM; Pontiac, Saturn, Oldsmobile, Geo
Ford; Mercury, Edsel
Chrysler; Plymouth, Eagle, Imperial, DeSoto
Defunct or merged companies; AMC, Studebaker, DeLorean, Avanti, Packard, Hudson, Nash, Willys, Kaiser
Posted by: kbdabear at September 16, 2013 01:06 AM (/9IC1)
The problem is not the merged or failed ones....it's that you can't start a new one, because you'd have to buy your way in to the massive government/labor complex to get it certified as road-worthy. Last new car company (besides Tesla, which is another progressive boondoggle) that I can recall in the US was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cl%C3%A9net_Coachworks (now defunct).
Should be that you can put any damned thing on a public road so long as it produces little danger to others (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRfE9XnQ-5U ) -- and that should include "in quantity" and "for sale".
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:16 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 16, 2013 01:15 AM (0axsw)
Because making it more expensive for mom and dad to buy food for them will surely be good for them.
Posted by: buzzion at September 15, 2013 09:17 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2013 01:14 AM
Late March 1996 there was a cold weather system that came down out of Alaska. Sylmar and Lakeview Terrace got a light amount of wet snow. It was raw that week, I remember that
Posted by: kbdabear at September 15, 2013 09:18 PM (/9IC1)
snowfall in LA...I made and threw a snowball on the corner of Manchester
and Lincoln...Bebe and I talked about it over some drinks which proves
it happened. Look forward to hearing from the BH, thanks, she's good
people. And now for reals, I'm out. Laters....
Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2013 01:14 AM
Late March 1996 there was a cold weather system that came down out of Alaska. Sylmar and Lakeview Terrace got a light amount of wet snow. It was raw that week, I remember that
Posted by: kbdabear at September 16, 2013 01:18 AM (/9IC1)
Brrrr.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Joe at September 15, 2013 09:21 PM (8Prb7)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 16, 2013 01:20 AM (T1005)
The BH is always teasing me 'cause it could be 80 degrees outside, and when we see the skiing part of "Soarin' over California", I'll shiver.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:21 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 15, 2013 09:28 PM (0axsw)
I saw snow as a kid because we went to higher altitude places like Fraser Park. But the first time I ever saw snow falling was my first time in New York City, in 2000. I was only there for about a day while waiting for a flight to Amsterdam. We would be there for a week then drive to Hanover, Germany for CeBIT.
I got back to NYC later that year for some work at PC Expo. We went to the top of the WTC, little knowing how significant the experience would become.
The first time I ever saw snow fall where I was living was two years ago, here in Castaic. It was the first time snow had fallen here since 1948, IIRC.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 15, 2013 09:29 PM (kcfmt)
Tesla is selling cars faster then they can make them.
Posted by: Joe at September 16, 2013 01:21 AM (8Prb7)
http://cleantechnica.com/2013/08/19/top-electric-car-cities-us/
Electric cars are a tradeoff between burning liquid fuels relatively cleanly in the car, and burning solid fuels semi-cleanly a long way away -- then wasting most of the energy heating up transmission lines for the gazillion miles in-between the powerplant and the charger, then wasting another batch in battery technology. If the idiots in government would get out of the way, it'd be cheaper, easier, and more environmentally-friendly to turn coal into gasoline or diesel and truck it to conventional filling stations.
But in five trendy cities, people are ordering more Teslas than the factory can produce. ***Note to self: get way, way, way-the-fuck away from these cities before the brownouts start.***
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:30 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 16, 2013 01:21 AM (T1005)
Is that one of Warren Miller's flicks?
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 09:31 PM (Myqtp)
I saw snow as a kid because we went to higher altitude places like Fraser Park. But the first time I ever saw snow falling was my first time in New York City, in 2000. I was only there for about a day while waiting for a flight to Amsterdam. We would be there for a week then drive to Hanover, Germany for CeBIT.
I got back to NYC later that year for some work at PC Expo. We went to the top of the WTC, little knowing how significant the experience would become.
The first time I ever saw snow fall where I was living was two years ago, here in Castaic. It was the first time snow had fallen here since 1948, IIRC.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 16, 2013 01:29 AM (kcfmt)
The BH is from NY. She's always giving me a hard time about snow.....but when we did a Christmas dinner in Yosemite, I did the driving.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:32 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 15, 2013 09:33 PM (0axsw)
California's more the rolling blackout sort of place. I'm sure if I had let them install a smart meter, they'd kindly turn off my A/C for me so that a 1%er could charge his Tesla.
Posted by: Anachronda at September 15, 2013 09:33 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: Joe at September 15, 2013 09:33 PM (8Prb7)
degrees outside, and when we see the skiing part of "Soarin' over
California", I'll shiver.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 16, 2013 01:21 AM (T1005)
Is that one of Warren Miller's flicks?
Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2013 01:31 AM (Myqtp)
I thought you were asleep!
No -- as so many things are, it's a Disney ride.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:34 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 15, 2013 09:34 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 15, 2013 09:35 PM (6TV0b)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 15, 2013 09:36 PM (0axsw)
***Note to
self: get way, way, way-the-fuck away from these cities before the
brownouts start.***
California's more the rolling blackout sort of place. I'm sure if I had let them install a smart meter, they'd kindly turn off my A/C for me so that a 1%er could charge his Tesla.
Posted by: Anachronda at September 16, 2013 01:33 AM (U82Km)
Yeah, that's a valid take.....forgot about the damned snitch boxes. I've got one on the gas, but not on the electric as yet.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:36 PM (T1005)
Posted by: NC Ref at September 15, 2013 09:37 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Joe at September 16, 2013 01:33 AM (8Prb7)
Could be worse -- like parking a Volt next to combustibles....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:38 PM (T1005)
Tesla superchargers are solar powered - look I'm no proggie but not everything new is bad. The company is profitable, the cars are beautiful, they are building an off grid charging infrastructure, etc etc ...
Fiskar was a boondoggle. It's important we keep our powder dry for real attacks, when the facts are on our side, or we look silly. Tesla is capitalism working ...
Posted by: Joe at September 15, 2013 09:39 PM (8Prb7)
Posted by: adams '80s Fisker Price commercial porn at September 15, 2013 09:39 PM (gQKHE)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 16, 2013 01:29 AM
People I knew in LA used to ask me if I ever missed snow. I told them if I missed it that much, I could just take a ride up to The Grapevine whenever a storm came through in the winter
Posted by: kbdabear at September 15, 2013 09:40 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 15, 2013 09:41 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac in the OBX at September 15, 2013 09:41 PM (fC5if)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 15, 2013 09:42 PM (0axsw)
Fiskar was a boondoggle. It's important we keep our powder dry for real attacks, when the facts are on our side, or we look silly. Tesla is capitalism working ...
Posted by: Joe at September 16, 2013 01:39 AM
Tesla is profitable because of the credits and subsidies they get courtesy of the taxpayers
It also helps that they don't have to hire design teams since it's identical to the Maserati Quatroporto
Posted by: kbdabear at September 15, 2013 09:43 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at September 15, 2013 09:46 PM (U82Km)
Anyway, one year JCA had a winter camp. I cannot recall the exact location of the facility. It wasn't one of JCA's but another Jewish organization. But it was in a section of Northern California where snow was normally found at that time of year.
Except that year. Bitter cold but not a bit of snow. Bitter complaining as well. It was difficult to see any point in being in this nasty clime if there wasn't going to be snow.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 15, 2013 09:47 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2013 09:48 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 15, 2013 09:49 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Alana at September 15, 2013 09:49 PM (8ZRms)
Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2013 01:37 AM (Myqtp)
My favorite was in the soap opera "Santa Barbara", where they had some action at the corner of [IIRC] State Street and Chapala. In real life, they run parallel a block apart and never meet. I never watched the series, but I remembered going "huh?" when that plot point came out.
Did you know that lemmings run off cliffs by the thousands into the sea? If you watched Disney's "Real-Life Adventures" you did. Reality was remarkably plastic if you learned it in SoCal from Disney. The shows "Adam-12" and "Emergency" often played fast-and-loose with the geography of the area. Vasquez Rocks stood in for hundreds of alien worlds, from Death's domain in "Bill and Ted" to Star Trek's "Arena" with the Gorn.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:50 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 15, 2013 09:53 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: rickl at September 15, 2013 09:54 PM (sdi6R)
Tesla superchargers are solar powered - look I'm noproggie but not everything new is bad. The company is profitable, the cars are beautiful, they are building an off grid charging infrastructure, etc etc ...
Fiskar was a boondoggle. It's important we keep our powder dry for real attacks, when the facts are on our side, or we look silly. Tesla is capitalism working ...
Posted by: Joe at September 16, 2013 01:39 AM (8Prb7)
Sorry, Tesla is bullshit working -- there is very little capitalism involved. Bullshit wrapped in bullshit wrapped in subsidies wrapped in bullshit wrapped in tax credits wrapped in subsidies wrapped in bullshit doesn't become roses if you lose track of how deep you are in the rabbit hole. I'll give you that Elon Musk is a genius, but then I'd say that Professor Harold Hill was a genius as well.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:55 PM (T1005)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 16, 2013 01:43 AM (/9IC1)
This. Electric cars will make sense when you can run one at 75MPH for 300 miles on a charge, recharge them in 15 minutes, and sell them for the equivalent of ~ 50K in today's dollars. Until then they are just pipe dreams for enviro-mentalists and play toys for the rich. Not saying I wouldn't love to have a Tesla roadster cause it's a sweet machine, but they're just toys right now and not ready for prime time. Maybe one day. FTR, I'm betting on hydrogen powered fuel cells.
Evening roonz and roonettez! In for lunch break, what's happening?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 15, 2013 09:56 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 15, 2013 09:57 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2013 01:48 AM (sdi6R)
Pshaw. You ought to see them around here (Raleigh area). You'd think the entire world was going to end when they predict snow.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 15, 2013 09:58 PM (xa1/W)
Anyway, one year JCA had a winter camp. I cannot recall the exact location of the facility. It wasn't one of JCA's but another Jewish organization. But it was in a section of Northern California where snow was normally found at that time of year.
Except that year. Bitter cold but not a bit of snow. Bitter complaining as well. It was difficult to see any point in being in this nasty clime if there wasn't going to be snow.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 16, 2013 01:47 AM (kcfmt)
I did camp one year up by Arrowhead. Lots of snow on the ground -- never saw it fall. Did a bunch of schlepping around, and -- due to unfamiliarity with snow -- had a bunch of snow melt all everything the first night. Every night afterwards was wet and cold and miserable.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 09:59 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The jackhole who had abalone and yellowtail for dinner at September 15, 2013 09:59 PM (/7Xis)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 15, 2013 10:00 PM (0axsw)
Yes Tesla benefitted from DOE loans and the various tax subsidies that exist. Yes the Model S could be considered derivative of the Maserati but to say they didn't have to design it is silly, as it's completely different despite appearance as an electric car.
My point is that Tesla is not a boondoggle, and the market is driving their success, which looks to continue for the immediate future. We tend to look silly when we smash all things new, because they are encroaching on our lawns or whatever - makes us easy to attack.
I don't get the 911 joke because Clarkson hates them passionately ... or is the point that they could have easily stolen the unchanged 911 design?
Posted by: Joe at September 15, 2013 10:01 PM (8Prb7)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 15, 2013 10:04 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 15, 2013 10:07 PM (U82Km)
Posted by: adams whine porn at September 15, 2013 10:08 PM (gQKHE)
Posted by: buzzion at September 15, 2013 10:14 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at September 15, 2013 10:15 PM (1wI7y)
Posted by: adams whine-oh porn at September 15, 2013 10:18 PM (gQKHE)
Yes Tesla benefitted from DOE loans and the various tax subsidies that exist. Yes the Model S could be considered derivative of the Maserati but to say they didn't have to design it is silly, as it's completely different despite appearanceas an electric car.
My point is that Tesla is not a boondoggle, and the market is driving their success, which looks to continue for the immediate future. We tend to look silly when we smash all things new, because they are encroaching on our lawns or whatever - makes us easy to attack.
I don't get the 911 joke because Clarkson hates them passionately ... or is the point that they could have easily stolen the unchanged 911 design?
Posted by: Joe at September 16, 2013 02:01 AM (8Prb7)
Go back and read Bastiat -- http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html -- originally from 1850, BTW, this is not a new discussion. You, yourself, say "Tesla benefitted from DOE loans and the various tax subsidies
that exist" but continue with the equivalent of "....but there are benefits that I can see."
Well, there are costs you ignore, that you don't see. I can't begin to tell you in a single comment how deep they go, but it starts with some poor taxpayer having to eat beans instead of pork because he's short $2 in his weekly food budget. There are battery subsidies, lithium cleanup costs, investment tax credits.....ten thousand ways that the thumb of government has been applied to the scales of common sense to come up with this -- admittedly beautiful -- thing. But each one had a cost.....somewhere.....where it cannot be seen.
Tesla is a boondoggle. To say that a manipulated market is driving its success is to confess that a true market would not, and to say that it will continue ignores the many tyrants that have decorated lampposts in the past.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 10:21 PM (T1005)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 15, 2013 10:22 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 16, 2013 02:04 AM (0axsw)
That's actually somewhat intriguing, especially as an excise tax.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 10:23 PM (T1005)
Posted by: adams whine porn at September 16, 2013 02:08 AM (gQKHE)
I always thought it odd that a winery would be named after the effect when a kangaroo pisses on itself....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 10:24 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 16, 2013 02:21 AM (T1005)
And really anyone calling it a success right now is incredibly naive. You're talking the automotive market and they are essentially cars at the beginning of their cycle. Will they have much life as used cars? Will the people buying them now replace them with a new model when they go for a new car in 3-10 years? Will these cars even end up lasting 10 years?
Posted by: buzzion at September 15, 2013 10:27 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 15, 2013 10:32 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 16, 2013 02:21 AM (T1005)
And really anyone calling it a success right now is incredibly naive. You're talking the automotive market and they are essentially cars at the beginning of their cycle. Will they have much life as used cars? Will the people buying them now replace them with a new model when they go for a new car in 3-10 years? Will these cars even end up lasting 10 years?
Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2013 02:27 AM (LI48c)
Considering that their $18K battery packs brick if you ignore 'em for too long, and are "maintenance items" under the best of circumstances, these are also valid points. They are very pretty, I'll grant. But if you cause a million bucks of misery to sell someone a pretty thing for $100K, are you really providing a benefit to the world? 'Twould be better to roll all costs into the cost of the product so that could be judged by the purchaser.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 10:32 PM (T1005)
Wow I don't really know how to respond to that ... obviously people are going to disagree on things but to say Tesla=Tyranny and invoke people swinging from lampposts is really silly, and kinda makes my point for me ...
There is an economic cost to everything and there are always unintended consequences, and politics and economy have always been inextricably intertwined. I'm sure the same argument could have been made towards the Model T, and, probably any luxury good would not meet the test presented.
Tesla would probably not be successful without widespread quasi-religious belief in global warming by a certain set of conspicuous consumers, so there is that ...
Again, I'm not trying to defend them but, rather, pointing out that all "smash the new thing" thinking and inaccuracies in discourse result in us looking like the stereotypes to which we have been proscribed.
Posted by: Joe at September 15, 2013 10:41 PM (8Prb7)
It's the same old zit as yesterday
Posted by: Gordon Sumner at September 16, 2013 02:37 AM (kcfmt)
I heard the tune as well. But you'd best not hang around Times Square with it, or The Police might get involved.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 10:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Joe at September 15, 2013 10:46 PM (8Prb7)
Thew economic cost of Tesla should have been borne solely by Musk and any investors he could attract. Having the government subsidize it means using funds taken at gunpoint from citizens. Beause that is what tax collection ultimately devolves to requiring. If you don't think so, try not paying taxes for a while and see what happens. The guns don't come out immediately but it gets there in the end.
P.J. O'Rourke had a great bit about taxes in 'Parliament of Whores,' IIRC, in which he put forth that the government should use tax dollars for anything you wouldn't allow your mother to be shot over if she refused to pay.
Free markets are by far the best mechanism humanity has ever found for determining the value of a product or service. If the market will not pay enough to make the item profitable, it is not viable. Government subsidies only serve to distort the market and prevent the truth from being determined. Now, if you want the government to subsidize research that may lead to a viable version of the item, that is a different matter. I've long felt that the money spent on Medicare to date would have produce far more ROI if spent on furthering medical science. One good vaccine for a previously unpreventable disease is worth billions. So it could be argued that investing a billion in tax payer funds to create that vaccine is a worthy investment. It depends how hardcore you are on limited government.
Speaking of vaccines, a research group has a clever approach to malaria. They don't believe it is possible to immunize humans to the parasite but they have found they can make the mosquitoes immune by knocking out a factor living in the mosquitoes that the parasite requires. But how to immunize the mosquitoes? By getting humans to produce the antibodies and allowing the mosquitoes to suck their blood and receive a dose of the antibodies.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 15, 2013 10:56 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 15, 2013 10:57 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2013 10:57 PM (hO9ad)
Wow I don't really know how to respond to that ... obviously people are going to disagree on things but to say Tesla=Tyranny and invoke people swinging from lampposts is really silly, and kinda makes my point for me ...
There is an economic cost to everything and there are always unintended consequences, and politics and economy have always been inextricably intertwined. I'm sure the same argument could have been made towards the Model T, and, probably any luxury good would not meet the test presented.
Tesla would probably not be successful without widespread quasi-religiousbelief in global warming by a certain set of conspicuous consumers, so there is that ...
Again, I'm not trying to defend them but, rather, pointing out that all "smash the new thing" thinking and inaccuracies in discourse result in us looking like the stereotypes to which we have been proscribed.
Posted by: Joe at September 16, 2013 02:41 AM (8Prb7)
I live in Silicon Valley. I moved here in 1986 and have contributed to many "new things". But your arguments have several fundamental flaws -- and I sincerely urge that you read and understand Bastiat's arguments from 163 years ago before you start walking around today rehashing the losing end of them.
Any idea can be considered a good one when you can take the benefits here-and-now and consider the costs as someone else's problem, whenever... ANY IDEA. Even the retarded shit the Obama administration churns out. ANY FUCKING THING. All you have to do is pretend that only what's in front of you matters, and let someone put selected things in front of you.
The normal way that goods start out is as luxuries. Then they start ramping into volume. At some point, they get to $300 and become wildly-successful consumer goods [which, oddly, has been the case for color TVs, VCRs, DVD players, and a variety of other goods.....despite the fact that the purchasing power of $300 has varied widely over time]. Government intervention distorts this process, causing huge amounts of UNSEEN damage.
If you open your eyes to the widespread dislocations caused by this interference, then you will realize that nothing I have said makes any point for you; Tesla does, in fact, equal tyranny; and that we are headed for something that will finally make the Great Depression look like irrelevant ancient history.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 11:00 PM (T1005)
Posted by: lowandslow at September 15, 2013 10:44 PM (APJIX)
100% (buffs eyeballs ostentatiously)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 15, 2013 11:03 PM (8Fl6F)
Just don't talk about subsidized anything doing anything without the Bastiat under your belt. Or, worse yet, get into broken windows.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 11:14 PM (T1005)
Posted by: lowandslow at September 15, 2013 10:44 PM (APJIX)
100% (buffs eyeballs ostentatiously)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2013 03:03 AM (8Fl6F)
Doesn't buffing eyeballs hurt?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 11:15 PM (T1005)
Bitch.
Freakin jap cars all look alike to me and also anything produced after about 1999.
THEY. ALL. LOOK. THE. SAME.
Because of epa standards and mileage standards, a basic car shape has emerged that has less wind resistance, all the new models have integral frames for weight saving which also dictates the limits of the design.
Even shoes have more possibilities for differences than cars do these days.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 15, 2013 11:17 PM (28TG+)
Bitch.
Freakin jap cars all look alike to me and also anything produced after about 1999.
THEY. ALL. LOOK. THE. SAME.
Because of epa standards and mileage standards, a basic car shape has emerged that has less wind resistance, all the new models have integral frames for weight saving which also dictates the limits of the design.
Even shoes have more possibilities for differences than cars do these days.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 16, 2013 03:17 AM (28TG+)
See @384. Ever wonder why everything looks the same? If "bureaucracy" isn't your first guess......
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 11:20 PM (T1005)
Or content labels.
guys too for that matter.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 15, 2013 11:20 PM (28TG+)
Also the amount and size.
And again, same with guys.
The size and prominence of a tattoo is directly related to how f'n crazy they are or have been.
The subject of the tattoos is directly related to how dangerous they may be to your physical interaction with them.
Anyone who has a tattoo anywhere above their collar bone?
STAY. AWAY.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 15, 2013 11:24 PM (28TG+)
without widespread quasi-religiousbelief in global warming by a certain
set of conspicuous consumers, so there is that ...
Hate to beat a dead horse, but the book for this is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_of_the_Leisure_Class -- from 1899 -- where "conspicuous consumption" is discussed at length.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 11:27 PM (T1005)
The horse doesn't care and no one else should be bothered.
Beat away I say.
Unless of course you beat the horse to death in the first place.
Then you got trouble.
One of the more noble animals IMO.
And NEVER worthy of assault.
Now a goat or a jackass . . . they just askin' for trouble.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 15, 2013 11:32 PM (28TG+)
I'm sure that this is some rare neurosis.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 15, 2013 11:33 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 15, 2013 11:41 PM (9MLX+)
I'd like to get me a '55 or '56 Packard 400, Executive, or Patrician with the Torsion-level ride, and a bum engine or bum Ultramatic. Not a show car, just a decent driver until it broke down. Then yard out the engine and transmission, and install a Chevy 6.2 liter Diesel with a 700R4 transmission. I'd have a nice luxurious highway cruiser that could get better than 20 miles to the gallon. And heavy enough to punch a hole right through a Tesla, heh.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 15, 2013 11:46 PM (8Fl6F)
VW recently started limited sales of a single-seat turbo-diesel hybrid commuter car...300+ MPG.
This however, is not that car...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ei6HXjrWUpY#t=64
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 15, 2013 11:52 PM (9MLX+)
Arbelest, this started out as a reaction to a comment that Tesla is a boondoggle, and, since they are successful in the car market, it seemed to me to be broad brush stroke equating all electric cars, and a denial that they are, in fact, selling them faster then they can make them. Yes, there are some very super bright folk here, but absolute surety in the correct way of thinking is not attractive from either extreme. The high level of discourse is why I keep coming back, but I do see plenty of rejection of the new ...
Cthulu, since you are haunting my dreams now, I fail to see how this argument could not be extended to any innovation that receives some sort of government sponsorship. We all know the Internet started out as a DARPA project to create a computer network that would survive a nuclear war. Its unintended consequences are many. I don't think these kind of disruptive technical innovations (often war driven) were anticipated by that tract - the unseen effects of machinery notwithstanding, which are not limited to saving labor. I don't think we fundamentally disagree, as am I going to be against government intervention in the economy in nearly all cases, because I do believe it does more harm then good. That being said, denying reality for the sake of ideological purity is not an attractive position. I, personally, believe there should be no subsidies for anything, ever ... If you choose to define Tesla as a boondoggle within this context, I cannot argue with that - reserving my point that the reality is that many many people want them, and are willing to pay super high prices to get them.
Too bad Obama doesn't have even a basic understanding of the things spelled out in that tract ...
Posted by: Joe at September 15, 2013 11:57 PM (8Prb7)
Tesla is going to have a lot of one-time owners, and few repeat customers. The technical issues with the vehicle are legion. Its an engineering test quality product that was rushed into production for political reasons.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 16, 2013 12:08 AM (9MLX+)
Too bad Obama doesn't have even a basic understanding of the things spelled out in that tract ...
Posted by: Joe at September 16, 2013 03:57 AM (8Prb7)
Teslas are being bought by those people who want to be seen to be buying a Tesla. It's a merit badge for conspicuous Green-ness, and not a means of transportation.
It would be funny as hell to go through parking lots of the rich and famous, and place bumper stickers on the back of Teslas that read: "My Other Car Actually Works".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2013 12:21 AM (8Fl6F)
Arbelest, this started out as a reaction to a comment that Tesla is a boondoggle, and, since they are successful in the car market, it seemed to me to be broad brush stroke equating all electric cars, and a denial that they are, in fact, selling them faster then they can make them. Yes, there are some very super bright folk here, but absolute surety in the correct way of thinking is not attractive from either extreme. The high level of discourse is why I keep coming back, but I do see plenty of rejection of the new ...
Cthulu, since you are haunting my dreams now, I fail to see how this argument could not be extended to any innovation that receives some sort of government sponsorship. We all know the Internet started out as a DARPA project to create a computer network that would survive a nuclear war. Its unintended consequences are many. I don't think these kind of disruptive technical innovations (often war driven) were anticipated by that tract - the unseen effects of machinery notwithstanding, which are not limited to saving labor. I don't think we fundamentally disagree, as am I going to be against government intervention in the economy in nearly all cases, because I do believe it does more harm then good. That being said, denying reality for the sake of ideological purity is not an attractiveposition. I, personally, believe there should be no subsidies for anything, ever ... If you choose to define Tesla as a boondoggle within this context, I cannot argue with that - reserving my point that the reality is that many many people want them, and are willing to pay super high prices to get them.
Too bad Obama doesn't have even a basic understanding of the things spelled out in that tract ...
Posted by: Joe at September 16, 2013 03:57 AM (8Prb7)
First -- read the Bastiat link. It's http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html -- and not that long. Now, I should point out that my BA is in Business Economics.....and I didn't know Bastiat's NAME until at least 15 years after I'd graduated. Save yourself some time and read it now, and you'll be about 1/3 of your way to a BA-level degree in Econ.
Your next issue relates to "government sponsorship". You need to differentiate between "government purposes" and "market manipulation". Article I, section 8, of the US Constitution lays out the lawful government interests in the US. It is a remarkably short list [ http://tinyurl.com/db58tj ], and involves no electric cars.
The internet was originally developed as a means of military communication during a time of massive disruption. That's a valid military purpose. But it has gone onward to interconnect the world with little additional governmental interference. To say that multiple, non-justified technologies should be acceptable because they could be equally valuable after a similar phase-change doesn't bear up.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 16, 2013 12:23 AM (T1005)
There was a far more straight forward and real world need: letting research groups spread across the country coordinate their activities. There is a reason the first sites were universities. They were not only involved in the development, they were the target market.
The resilience of the internet was a side effect of the switch to digital switching and use of packet communications. The POTS system is oriented towards ATM rather than IP but they have much in common. Voice communications became vastly more reliable at the same time the internet was being established but as the POTS system was already a fact of life from birth for nearly everyone living at the time developed nations, increased reliability was harder to appreciate. In much the same way younger people can have a hard time appreciating how amazingly reliable the typical new car is these days. There is a reason they now include warranties for mileage and/or time periods that was the stuff of dreams when I first started driving.
And the surviving a nuclear war? Not so much. You would only have to hit a handful of locations to knock most of the civilian population offline. Several years ago there was a fire at the 1 Wilshire facility in Los Angeles. This took out a THIRD of all global internet traffic.
Things are a bit more distributed today but a small number of nuclear strikes would be very effective at bringing down the internet. DoD keeps dedicated lines and their own facilities for a reason.
The internet did not need the government to drive its creation. It may have taken a few years longer but the elements were coming together in the private sector. Companies, especially Wall St. service providers, with massive computing capacity (for the era) were finding they had a big expense in keeping the machines running around the clock even though they were largely idle for a large chunk of the day. This was because it was a huge slow hassle to shut them down and bring them back up.
The first idea was to sell processing time to other businesses who could their work after business hours. Thus what would become known as CompuServe was launched in 1969, before the first node of the ARPAnet went into service. By the late 70s, it was becoming a consumer and small business service. Others followed and soon there were myriad services, many tied to specific computer brands and their operating systems. What became AOL was originally targeted at the Commodore 64 user base.
The big problem was a lack of standards. Proprietary protocols sprang up all over the place. What standards existed, such as the emulation of widely used terminals, helped but were very limited compared to what the newer computers could do, especially when it came to graphics. Eventually just about everything shifted to internet based standards because nobody owned them and thus there was no issue of royalties, patents, etc. But plenty of similar standards have been created in the computing field with no government participation or funding. At most, the government would have a guy representing their interest as a big buyer of the products at issue.
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Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at September 16, 2013 01:30 AM (w45V0)
Yes, you are dreaming.
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Posted by: Al Bundy at September 16, 2013 02:15 AM (ngSx5)
Fruit juices often times have preservatives that will hinder your yeast long enough for some wild yeast or some other infection to take hold.
If you want cheap hooch just use cane and baker's yeast. Or corn syrup.
Careful with too much sugar or the yeast can't take it. Better to add sugar until very sweet and then get your yeast going. When it looks like it has slowed, add more sugar but only so much as it is still drinkable. It'll smell like jolly ranchers if you use cane but will taste nasty while the yeast is still in suspension. Keep doing this until the yeast simply can't deal with the abv.
Remember to stir up the yeast from the bottom every day while it is still able to convert sugar to alcohol.
In my own playing around I've found that the "top" abv that the yeast manufacturers indicate is for unstirred/unrocked yeast. Hypothetically speaking, You can take 8% yeast well over the legal limit of 24% without anything more than a fish tank air stone, pump, and a mix of yeast energizer and a wee bit of yeast nutrient (nutrient is fert and the energizer is spent yeast hulls and such that help the stuff along.). This wasn't nasty tasting stuff either. Just remember the higher abv you go, the slower it is but 20% is doable in 7 days.
If you're not planning on, hypothetically, running it through a cook, you'd take the air off and stop slowing you're tired of how slow the yeast has become or it simply can't take any more abv and let it sit for a week to let the yeast fall out. Then rack it to a carboy and let it sit a month or two to let more yeast fall out (this is where you'll start to have a pain with baker's yeast and why proper brewing yeast is better. Midwest Supplies is a nice source.). Then rack again and after 1-2 months determine if you need to bottle (very little yeast on the bottom and doesn't taste yeasty (nasty if not malt based sugars). At this point it is drinkable but you'll want to save some off for 1, 2, 5+ years. You'll be astounded how the batch tastes in time.
When aging in bottles do not store where the temp changes rapidly. That will ruin your brew in a hurry. Bulk aging (in a carboy) is the best protection against rapid temp change if you do not have a basement.
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