September 17, 2013
— Maetenloch
Legal Insurrection: Why Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, and Ted Cruz Are Natural Born Citizens
Okay, Okay I know you're all burned out on this topic and tired of rehashing the same arguments - God knows I am too. But given that it IS Constitution Day and for once we have an actual legal scholar who's gone and done the actual research on the topic, I think we can open this can of worms one more time.
So Prof. William Jacobson of LegalInsurrection.com went back to the original sources including the writings of the Founders before and after the drafting of the Constitution and in his post lays out exactly what found regarding the 'natural born' citizen requirement.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
It's a clear, well-written and semi-long post and it's worth your time to read it. But if you're all Teal Dear and stuff, here's the quick summary:
- The term 'natural born citizen' is used but never defined in the Constitution. Nor is it defined in other writings of the time by the signers.
- There seem to be two categories of persons whose status has never been disputed from the earliest days:
- Clearly Natural Born citizens - A person born in the United States to parents both of whom are United States citizens - e.g. the vast majority of people in the US historically.
- Clearly NOT Natural Born citizens - A person born outside the United States to parents neither of whom is a United States citizen e.g. Prince Charles, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and most people of the world.
- Since the Framers never explicitly defined the term nor included text dealing with the status of people who didn't clearly fall into either one of the above categories, we can assume they intended it to be defined through later laws and statutes.
- From historical documents and letters the Framers also didn't seem to be looking for technical reasons to exclude people from the first category. They were mostly concerned with obvious foreigners running for president.
- Later statutes and court decisions have been specific and narrow and haven't defined the term either or set a precedent.
- Since by statute Rubio, Jindal, and Cruz were all eligible for US citizenship at their birth, they should be considered 'natural born citizens' under the Constitution.
Given that at the time of the drafting of the Constitution about 99.9% of people alive would have clearly fallen into either category one or two, I think that was good enough. After all the Constitution is a framework of laws and meta-laws (laws for making laws) - not a piece of software that is required to cover every single exception and edge case. Ultimately you have to leave it to future citizens to figure out certain things.
Diane Feinstein Unclear on First Amendment; Thinks It's a Privilege
Only 'real' journalists will get protections i.e. not you:
The final hurdle for the Judiciary Committee was defining who is a journalist in the digital era.Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) insisted on limiting the legal protection to "real reporters" and not, she said, a 17-year-old with his own website.
"I can't support it if everyone who has a blog has a special privilege . or if Edward Snowden were to sit down and write this stuff, he would have a privilege. I'm not going to go there," she said.
Feinstein introduced an amendment that defines a "covered journalist" as someone who gathers and reports news for "an entity or service that disseminates news and information." The definition includes freelancers, part-timers and student journalists, and it permits a judge to go further and extend the protections to any "legitimate news-gathering activities."
Luckily we have a Constitutional scholar in the White House to set her straight on this.
Bryan Preston: US Military Bases are 'Gun Free Zones' Because Democrats Decreed Them To Be
After Nidal Hasan killed 13 and wounded more than 30 in November 2009, John R. Lott wrote about one of the craziest policies to come out of the Clinton era: making military bases "gun free zones."
Yes, that's correct. In 1993, President Bill Clinton decreed that US military personnel were to surrender the Second Amendment rights that they swear an oath to support and defend. Lott, writing in 2009, called for that policy to be ended.
Mass murders kill best in areas guaranteed to be (nearly) gun-free. And some people would like to enlarge their habitat across the nation.
Max Boot: You Damn Tea Partiers Are Causing Obama's Syrian Stumbles
And the resulting loss of American credibility.
Wait - didn't Boot used to be considered a respected and clear-headed foreign policy expert? So when exactly did the pod get placed under his bed?
Paul Mirengoff over at Power Line has a powerful and thought-provoking post on this subject. He writes "that the most serious and enduring loss to American credibility stems not from President Obama's actions or decisions, but from the unwillingness of Congress and the American people to support him when he proposed taking military action against Assad." Indeed, the failure of Congress to rally to President Obama's side by supporting a military response to the use of chemical weapons effectively left the president little choice but to grasp the face-saving offer put forward by Russia that will supposedly remove Syria's chemical weapons at the cost of keeping Bashar Assad in power indefinitely....The most vocal Republican voice on foreign policy is Rand Paul, a born-again isolationist who, if he succeeds, will consign the GOP to perpetual irrelevance. We need to hear more from the Chris Christies, Marco Rubios, Jeb Bushes, and others who support a Reaganite policy of global leadership but are being drowned out by Tea Party isolationists. So, too, in the Democratic Party we need to hear more from the liberal internationalists such as the Clintons to explain why we can't simply turn our backs on war crimes.
Just because we choose to ignore the world's problems doesn't mean they will go away.
In diabetes. But it was my understanding via the media that diabetes and obesity was uniquely due to the bad, bad, awful American diet and sheer American gluttony.
Scientists blame China's diabetes epidemic - Zimmet called it a potential "apocalypse" - in large part on the country's torrid economy, which has been growing at a rate of roughly 10 percent for the past three decades. As more people become wealthier, they adopt a diet and lifestyle that makes them more susceptible to earlier onset of Type 2 diabetes, the most common form of diabetes and a disease that's closely linked to obesity.
Well I guess not.
Can You Guess What This Man Was Arrested For?
Because nature abhors a vacuum - and loves irony.
OMG Your Refrigerator Is Killing the Earth!!!!
The G-20 summit in St. Petersburg was dominated by disagreements about Syria. But leaders were also busy agreeing on something they rarely find common ground on: climate change. Thirty-five nations and the European Union decided to curb hydrofluorocarbons, a set of powerful heat-trapping gases used in refrigeration, air conditioning, heat pumps, and insulation.
In other words get ready for your future new expensive non-working 'Green' refrigerators.
Jaden Smith Encourages You And Yours To Drop Out Of School
Well when you're 15 years old and your daddy is Will Smith who's worth eleventy billion dollars suddenly you become wise beyond your years and no one wants to argue with your dumbass 15 year-old blatherings.
The AoSHQ group. Yeah.
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that the most serious and enduring loss to American credibility stems not from President Obama's actions or decisions, but from the unwillingness of Congress and the American people to support him when he proposed taking military action against Assad.
Brecht:
After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers' Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts.
Posted by: boulder texan hobo at September 17, 2013 06:47 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 17, 2013 06:48 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2013 06:49 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Splunge at September 17, 2013 06:49 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: toby928© at September 17, 2013 06:50 PM (QupBk)
I'm not willing to dismiss Jaden as an idiot just yet. Based on the comments I've seen from parents here who have been deprogramming their kids from public school, Jaden might be...
... a moron.
Posted by: boulder texan hobo at September 17, 2013 06:51 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: CarolT at September 17, 2013 06:51 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: L, elle at September 17, 2013 06:51 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 17, 2013 06:51 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: adams printing press porn at September 17, 2013 06:51 PM (gQKHE)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 06:51 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 17, 2013 06:51 PM (n/+FT)
How are these people so successful, when they are so incredibly stupid? The real world doesn't work that way. But in politics, apparently you can be a lawmaker with no conception of the Rule of Law, and a Constitutional Scholar with no clue what the Constitution, not an excessively long document, actually says.
Posted by: Splunge at September 17, 2013 06:51 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: a pirate at September 17, 2013 06:52 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 17, 2013 06:53 PM (Dsds2)
As a scholar of the Constitution, I have concluded that Rick Perry is ineligible for the Presidency. Because fuck Texas.
Posted by: "President" Obama at September 17, 2013 06:53 PM (bKA83)
Stupid people like to vote for the stupid.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
Posted by: navybrat at September 17, 2013 06:53 PM (kb15h)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 06:53 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 06:54 PM (CtSLQ)
Max, what was the proposed military action?
Oh and when did he actually, ya know, like um...lead?
L-IP(undit)
Posted by: Ponderosa at September 17, 2013 06:54 PM (5nur/)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 06:54 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: L, elle at September 17, 2013 06:54 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: a pirate at September 17, 2013 10:52 PM (9gNQd)
That headline.
Oh that headline.
Posted by: CAC at September 17, 2013 06:55 PM (h5L+f)
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 17, 2013 06:55 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 06:56 PM (CtSLQ)
"...we can assume they intended it to be defined through later laws and statutes."
Cool, founders intended for all terms in the constittuion to be definied by law by later generations, not that it was a foundation.
Posted by: Burnt Taters at September 17, 2013 06:56 PM (NiStY)
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 17, 2013 06:57 PM (DCC9P)
Posted by: L, elle at September 17, 2013 06:57 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 17, 2013 06:57 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: CAC at September 17, 2013 10:55 PM (h5L+f)
....and it's still there.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 06:57 PM (T1005)
35 but I'm two degrees of separation from Lovie Smith
that's okay, lovie is now two degrees of separation from having a job
(just kidding)
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 06:57 PM (vJL//)
Sigh.... the key to the Natural Born citizen clause is simple... the framers did not want anyone who could have the legal entanglements of another citizenship to be Commander in Chief.
Remember, this is the day when the Son of a British Citizen, was a Brit Citizen, and could be forced into the British Navy...
If you were a Brit citizen... you could be Arrested, tried, and convicted of TREASON if you waged war against the Crown.... UNLESS you were following Legal and Lawful orders... then the originator of said orders were liable... (this happened a lot of times in Scotland, Ireland, and France).
Thus, the idea behind the Natural Born citizen clause was to ensure that the President of the US, was ONLY, and could BE ONLY... a US Citizen...
Thus, born on US soil, of (at the time) a US Citizen Father.
The key question is.... why did they even put that clause in... if it was not to ensure that a Potential DUAL CITIZEN was Commander in Chief? (as it is a requirement no where else in the Constitution...).
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 17, 2013 06:57 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 06:58 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: L, elle at September 17, 2013 06:58 PM (0PiQ4)
It's still there.
(This is a Beavis and Butthead joke)(but I did really check and it is still there)
Posted by: Splunge at September 17, 2013 06:59 PM (bKA83)
"Coming in Tuesday’s Slice column Sept. 16, 2013 10:30 a.m. • 0 comments
I cobbled it together on Sept. 6, and have not the slightest memory of what it's about.
Enjoy."
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 07:00 PM (T1005)
Posted by: boulder texan hobo at September 17, 2013 07:00 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Splunge at September 17, 2013 07:00 PM (bKA83)
Posted by: CarolT at September 17, 2013 07:00 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 17, 2013 07:01 PM (bXdYS)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 07:01 PM (CtSLQ)
I don't know about that one, but I do know that her hubby's company got the contract to build the hi-speed choo choo in CA.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2013 07:01 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: shadowofashade at September 17, 2013 07:02 PM (TBExv)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 07:02 PM (T1005)
Potential DUAL CITIZEN was Commander in Chief?
Inconceivable.
They just wanted to keep out anyone born a Brit, but had the dilema of lacking anyone qualified to otherwise meet the 'natural born citizen' requirement, hence the granfather clause which was good for the founders, but no good today (unless you have a 200 year old running for pres). Was there any other constittuional clause with an functional useful life built in?
Posted by: Burnt Taters at September 17, 2013 07:02 PM (NiStY)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 07:03 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: Max Boot at September 17, 2013 07:03 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Splunge at September 17, 2013 11:00 PM (bKA83)
They're fat and sassy.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 07:03 PM (T1005)
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 10:53 PM (vJL//)
Okay I'm seriously considering banning navycopjoe from mentioning the bears on the ONT.
Not because I have any ill will towards them - but mostly because I'm just tired of seeing his bears comments on every single fucking thread every single day. Sometimes there's a fine line between being a highly exuberant fan and becoming a functional spammer.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 07:04 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:05 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mætenloch
Has he stopped mentioning the Cubs?
See? Count your blessings.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 17, 2013 07:05 PM (AJ1u5)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 17, 2013 07:05 PM (caPl0)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 07:06 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:06 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: CarolT at September 17, 2013 07:06 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 07:07 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: orange 9mm at September 17, 2013 07:08 PM (CwqiX)
Oh, great, now I have to think on an ONT. OK, on it...
...it was the one about dropping out of school being a good thing. It's not like he said you should go to private school or be homeschooled after that.
Posted by: Splunge at September 17, 2013 07:08 PM (bKA83)
So we have military forces that are unarmed?
Or is it that we have military forces that can not be trusted with weapons?
This makes so much sense we should try it with law enforcement. Eliminate those SWAT units; no need for all those heavy weapons. Same for private security companies, no need for their security personnel to be armed because we live in a peaceful society.
All we are saying is 'give peace a chance'. Why can't we be friends?
...and drum circles.
Posted by: Makes Perfect Sense at September 17, 2013 07:08 PM (ehV2U)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 17, 2013 07:08 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: Max Boot at September 17, 2013 11:03 PM .....................Here, Here. That's what I've been trying to tell people! then Pooty Poot was all like, nu uh. And I was all like, Uh huh. Then 70 percent of the American public wer're all like nuh uh. And I was all like, fine, I'll ask congress n shit, and they were all like nuh uh! Bastards. I mean AlQueda needs our help Bro's ! and the damn Tea paritiers are harshin my mellow. Now I can't even shake my groove thang at the Latin White House Party.
Posted by: Barack H 0Bama at September 17, 2013 07:08 PM (bXdYS)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 07:09 PM (CtSLQ)
HaHAH!
F- the Bears!
The A's are hot and the Rangers are cold, Vendette! Now if the Indians squeak in, I'll be content.
Posted by: Slapweasel at September 17, 2013 07:09 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 17, 2013 07:09 PM (Zswg6)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:09 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 17, 2013 07:09 PM (CWLFZ)
Posted by: Paul Zummo
Not that it matters but I think a serious FAIL by Romney was not addressing the gigantic elephant in the room: "Soooo, 20/20 hindsight why was Iraq a bad call?"
Romney missed more than one opportunity to go roguey populist.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 17, 2013 07:09 PM (AJ1u5)
BB has some details on the hi speed rail deal, as well as a link to other cronyism from Her Scruntliness:
http://tinyurl.com/cclm5ad
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2013 07:10 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 07:10 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 17, 2013 07:11 PM (caPl0)
Okay I'm seriously considering banning navycopjoe from mentioning the bears on the ONT.
Nah, let him run. It'll make the certain and eventual comeuppance all the sweeter. lol
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 17, 2013 07:11 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 07:11 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: L, elle at September 17, 2013 07:12 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 17, 2013 11:05 PM...........Like I said a few posts back . Fuck Boot and his boy Rubio. They're too stupid to learn from very very recent history. Oh look we overthrew Quadaffi and Mubarak. Yea!!!!! Oh wait, we supported a wing of Alquedia? Yes1 More please! Fucking A.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 17, 2013 07:12 PM (bXdYS)
Posted by: navybrat at September 17, 2013 07:12 PM (kb15h)
How, exactly, are his comments any different than the Horde's
denigration (deserved) of the public school system and the pushing of
private schools/homeschooling?
1. He's going to an expensive elite private school not the local public one.
2. He's 15 and doesn't know shit - and is unaware that he doesn't know shit.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 07:12 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 07:12 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2013 07:13 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 07:13 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 17, 2013 11:08 PM
Arrrrr... Cochran's a rum cove and like a frigate on a calm day. It's a struggle to fill his sail... Arrrrr...
Posted by: a pirate at September 17, 2013 07:14 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: orange 9mm at September 17, 2013 07:15 PM (CwqiX)
Surprised on the cheap price that Sega bought them for
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 07:15 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 17, 2013 07:16 PM (bXdYS)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 07:16 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 07:16 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 07:16 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 17, 2013 07:17 PM (caPl0)
Posted by: Beagle at September 17, 2013 07:17 PM (sOtz/)
Best argument against the balanced budget amendment.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 17, 2013 07:17 PM (95fFA)
Proud papa.
2. That is undoubtedly true of virtually every teenager alive.Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:18 PM (GEICT)
As for Fuckstein, when you live in Mexifornia you see this stuff all day long...
Posted by: Old White Skinner at September 17, 2013 07:18 PM (3GuQx)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 07:18 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: orange 9mm at September 17, 2013 07:18 PM (CwqiX)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 07:18 PM (CtSLQ)
Posted by: CarolT at September 17, 2013 07:18 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 17, 2013 07:19 PM (caPl0)
The EPA's own fucking instructional materials on HFC's say the shit doesn't last long enough to ever make it high enough in the atmosphere where it could operate as a GHG before the molecules are degraded and fall apart. The HFC's and HCFC's aren't nearly as stable exposed to sunlight as old school CFC R-12 was.
And...people who service small self-contained units like fridges, wall unit A/C's and such are already required by law to capture refrigerant during servicing.
The inmates are running the asylum.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 17, 2013 07:19 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 07:19 PM (CtSLQ)
The Packers will beat the Bears this season. At least twice. Three times if the Bears make the playoffs.
This won't be that big of a deal. It's to be expected. It's like a change in the weather come fall. You know it's gonna happen.... then it does.
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at September 17, 2013 07:20 PM (fdfY2)
There may be hope for them yet...
Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at September 17, 2013 07:20 PM (9F2c1)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 11:18 PM (GEICT)
Which is why we don't take policy recommendations from teenagers.
Especially ones whose entire life is essentially a gigantic moral hazard.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 07:20 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 07:20 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 11:16 PM (dK34c)
like an Orca tearing into a baby seal.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 11:18 PM (0SmH0)
Bwah!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 07:21 PM (T1005)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 17, 2013 07:21 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: Old White Skinner at September 17, 2013 07:21 PM (3GuQx)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 17, 2013 07:22 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 07:22 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:23 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 07:23 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Slapweasel at September 17, 2013 07:23 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 17, 2013 11:19 PM .............................Yep and it wasn't just the eeeevil mass killers AKA the "Tea Party". It was plenty of Dems as well. I mean Egypt and Libya turned out soooo well. This idiot and his buddies want to make the Tea Party their boogeyan because of their failures. Apparently McCain and Romney weren't moderate Rino Squishy enough. But yea, hey, let's go help AQ again. Flipping mouthbreathers.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 17, 2013 07:24 PM (bXdYS)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 17, 2013 11:19 PM (caPl0)
Nor is it even 'isolationism'. We've done a lot of heavy lifting and bleeding around the world over the last 12 years. Why can't we opt out of intervening in bad situation once in a while?
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 07:24 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 07:24 PM (CtSLQ)
Never mind Dan White was an ex cop who could carry whatever he wanted...
Posted by: navybrat at September 17, 2013 07:24 PM (kb15h)
Posted by: Beagle at September 17, 2013 07:25 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 17, 2013 07:25 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 17, 2013 07:25 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac in the OBX at September 17, 2013 07:25 PM (Va11M)
Posted by: orange 9mm at September 17, 2013 07:26 PM (CwqiX)
Posted by: CarolT at September 17, 2013 07:26 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:27 PM (GEICT)
That's old school thinking, he's new school.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 17, 2013 07:28 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 17, 2013 07:28 PM (caPl0)
Posted by: The Barrel at September 17, 2013 07:28 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Beagle at September 17, 2013 07:29 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 07:29 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 17, 2013 07:29 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 11:16 PM (dK34c)
I saw a promo for her new tv show, think it's called Raising McCain or something like that. My first thought: They're gonna need a bigger crane.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2013 07:30 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: orange 9mm at September 17, 2013 07:30 PM (CwqiX)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:31 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 07:31 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: boulder tori hobo at September 17, 2013 07:31 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: BornLib at September 17, 2013 07:31 PM (zpNwC)
Posted by: Meghan McCain at September 17, 2013 07:31 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: Gingy at September 17, 2013 07:32 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 17, 2013 07:32 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:32 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 07:33 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:33 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: orange 9mm at September 17, 2013 07:33 PM (CwqiX)
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 07:33 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 07:34 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:36 PM (Z9EHQ)
Lemme put it this way, if one of the regulars around here, like AllenG or CharlieBrown'sDildo, had said the exact same thing, what would your response be?
Btw, you have email.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 11:23 PM (GEICT)
Despite it's fun-sounding name 'moral hazard' is an economic term for the fact that people will make riskier decisions when they're insulated from the costs of a bad decision. And baring a major, public felony Jaden Smith is pretty much never ever going to suffer for being stupid or fucking up.
And most commenters here have managed to finish high school and support themselves with jobs which means I give their opinions regarding teh value of education more weight than that of a celebrity 15-year old.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 07:37 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 07:37 PM (0SmH0)
Maet, as I have previously proposed, have Congress put up an AUMF on Iran and you will see that it's not isolationism that is the driver here, but the mission in Syria.
Iran has directly caused the killing of many American soldiers. They are a scourge on the world. They have directly threatened the US of A. Leave it open ended until they open all their nuclear doings to international inspectors.
The outcome in Congress is quite likely to be the opposite of Syria.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2013 07:38 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 07:38 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:38 PM (Z9EHQ)
holy crap
not only is Honolulu harbor full of molasses but now theyre finding dismembered bodies here
come feel our aloha!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 07:39 PM (vJL//)
Posted by: Beagle at September 17, 2013 07:39 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:40 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 11:16 PM (dK34c)
It'd be fun to watch her and Mooch start on opposing ends of an all-you-can-eat sushi bar. A singularity might form.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2013 07:40 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 07:40 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:41 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 07:41 PM (aDwsi)
*there's a LOT of wrappers in here. you guys EAT in this thing?!?*
...disgusting
Posted by: Slapweasel at September 17, 2013 11:38 PM (lq3Ak)
They ain't that kind of wrappers....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 07:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:42 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:42 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Beagle at September 17, 2013 07:42 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Vendette at September 17, 2013 07:42 PM (CtSLQ)
I shit thee not. It is a red silk looking number with some sort of beast's black fur trimming it. Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 11:37 PM
I bid $15.
If I can write it off as a charitable donation
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 17, 2013 07:43 PM (DCC9P)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:43 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 11:42 PM (GEICT)
http://youtu.be/ymKLymvwD2U
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 07:43 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 07:44 PM (LpbKr)
*there's a LOT of wrappers in here. you guys EAT in this thing?!?*
...disgusting
Posted by: Slapweasel at September 17, 2013 11:38 PM (lq3Ak)
They ain't that kind of wrappers....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 11:42 PM (T1005)
....unless, of course, you think that "reservoir tip" is a sports beverage.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 07:44 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 07:45 PM (aDwsi)
You did.
Really wish you had not.
Posted by: The Barrel at September 17, 2013 07:45 PM (JawqV)
Everyone should hate Yahoo. You can start....
....
...now.
Posted by: Null at September 17, 2013 07:45 PM (xjpRj)
it'll cost us several hundreds of millions to clean-up
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 11:44 PM (vJL//)
I've drank molasses straight before, I can again do so
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 07:45 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 07:46 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 07:46 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 17, 2013 07:47 PM (BGlC1)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 17, 2013 07:47 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac in the OBX at September 17, 2013 07:47 PM (Va11M)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:47 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 07:47 PM (8RtZ8)
In May.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 17, 2013 11:47 PM (qyfb5)
jizz leaves streaks if you don't clean it up right away
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 07:47 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:48 PM (GEICT)
193 To any of the horde with kids... Make sure you check what the hell they're being taught
my soon to be 12yo:
cubs, bears, bulls, Blackhawk fanatic....check
plays heavy metal guitar......check
plays little girl soccer violently........check
knows how to grill bratwurst and hot Italian sausage........check
isn't a ginger..........check
yep, her tuition is working fine
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 07:48 PM (vJL//)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 17, 2013 07:48 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 17, 2013 07:49 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:49 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: beavis at September 17, 2013 07:49 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 07:49 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 07:49 PM (8RtZ8)
206 apparently tankers bring it in and put in storage tanks
then it gets pumped to another tank to be pumped to tankers
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 07:50 PM (vJL//)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 07:50 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:50 PM (Z9EHQ)
http://tinyurl.com/ppd6gq9
Posted by: Gingy at September 17, 2013 11:32 PM (aH+zP)
Actually, Gingy, that was the Throne Speech. Same deal as in Canada; written by the new Prime Minister, and read by the monarch, or his agent, the Governor General. So Willem was reading the dutch PM's words, which is encouraging!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2013 07:50 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 17, 2013 07:51 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Buzzion at September 17, 2013 07:51 PM (ejvyp)
Posted by: Beagle at September 17, 2013 07:51 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 07:51 PM (LpbKr)
Oh wait, those are "moderate" rebels who are for democracy, tolerance, and a McDonalds on every street corner, because a paid shill with phony credentials says so
Right ... and Walter White is just a nice high school chemistry teacher
Posted by: kbdabear at September 17, 2013 07:51 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: UWP at September 17, 2013 07:51 PM (vj51i)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:52 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 17, 2013 07:53 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Slapweasel at September 17, 2013 07:53 PM (lq3Ak)
In May.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 17, 2013 11:47 PM
The Barrel™ get's shut down and power-washed during model year change-over, the last two weeks of July. Anything you find in there now is less than six weeks old.
It smells bad now? Imagine being in there in June....
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 17, 2013 07:53 PM (DCC9P)
That's probably some theology related to aliens from whatever planet the Scientologists think they come from as his parents are Scientologists
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 11:49 PM (8RtZ
Yeah I think it's a scientology thing but it's also a common trope on the left that children are naturally wise and intelligent until they're tainted by modern society.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 07:53 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:54 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 17, 2013 07:54 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: mindful webworker's refrigerator is running at September 17, 2013 07:55 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Beagle at September 17, 2013 11:42 PM (sOtz/)
Sneaker-clad feet washing ashore was "thing" on the shores of Georgia Strait, the body of water between the B.C. mainland and Vancouver Island, a few years ago.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2013 07:56 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 07:56 PM (8RtZ8)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at September 17, 2013 07:56 PM (BfZ1r)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:57 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 07:58 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 07:58 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 07:58 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 07:59 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 17, 2013 07:59 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 07:59 PM (GEICT)
That's probably some theology related to aliens from whatever planet the Scientologists think they come from as his parents are Scientologists
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 11:49 PM (8RtZ
Yeah I think it's a scientology thing but it's also a common trope on the left that children are naturally wise and intelligent until they're tainted by modern society.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 11:53 PM (pAlYe)
Which makes total sense if your worldview is all id.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 08:00 PM (T1005)
Or you could read the post and see where Jacobson discusses Vattel and why the term almost certainly didn't come from him.
But hey actually reading stuff is for fags right?
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 08:00 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Mindy at September 17, 2013 08:01 PM (xTLOw)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:01 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 17, 2013 08:01 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 08:01 PM (8RtZ8)
Posted by: Beagle at September 17, 2013 08:02 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:02 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 08:02 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 08:02 PM (8RtZ8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 08:03 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:03 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 18, 2013 12:00 AM (pAlYe)
I think the accepted version from the StyleGuide would be "reading is for people who talk like fags and whose shit is all retarded.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 18, 2013 12:02 AM (GEICT)
Who has time for all that stuff that just sits there, when there's an endless scroll of new comments on the ONT?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 08:03 PM (T1005)
Brother and I were raised with those values that are mocked and scorned today.
Kath and I raised our kids with those same values.
Their kids are following in those footsteps too.
I'll be perfectly content to have that as my legacy.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 17, 2013 08:04 PM (SAMxH)
Now, back to your regularly scheduled Bears commentary
Posted by: kbdabear at September 17, 2013 08:04 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 08:05 PM (8RtZ8)
an hour till tatu baby's big butt!!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 11:59 PM (vJL//)
don't think I've ever had a countdown to porn before
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 08:05 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 08:05 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:06 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 17, 2013 11:59 PM (qyfb5)
Which goes to show the wisdom of the Mafia in providing their dear about-to-be-departed with cement shoes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2013 08:06 PM (8Fl6F)
Okay Maetenloch, I can't take you seriously if you have a post about "Natural Born Citizen" and don't mention the Naturalization Act of 1790 where the term is CLEARLY defined. Yes, the only ever Act of Congress that ever defined the term just a couple years after the adoption of that terminology in the Constitution.
You can't be taken seriously on this topic as a result.
Posted by: doug at September 17, 2013 08:06 PM (uJ8q7)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 17, 2013 08:07 PM (DpI6K)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 08:07 PM (8RtZ8)
266 Now, back to your regularly scheduled Bears commentary
ITS A TRAP!!!!!
****looks around for Maet****
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 08:07 PM (vJL//)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 08:08 PM (8RtZ8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 08:08 PM (aDwsi)
Well, got Mom in the ground Monday.
Starting to go through papers and unopened mail. Turns out she was approved for SSDI the DAY AFTER she died at 60yo. Somewhere she's laughing.
Posted by: esch at September 17, 2013 08:08 PM (eEEbp)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 08:08 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:09 PM (Z9EHQ)
300 2.0
Starring Ben Affleck and Justin Bieber
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 17, 2013 08:09 PM (DCC9P)
No word on if Keith asked Jerry to help him move ..
Posted by: kbdabear at September 17, 2013 08:09 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: NFLMocklessburger at September 17, 2013 08:10 PM (aH+zP)
The sequel is that we won. Pay no attention to Greek propaganda!
Posted by: Xšaya-ṛšā at September 17, 2013 08:10 PM (d7tB2)
I shit thee not. It is a red silk looking number with some sort of beast's black fur trimming it.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 11:37 PM
Good lord, was he moonlighting as a pimp?
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2013 12:07 AM (DpI6K)
Moonlighting? I thought his primary business was race-pimping.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 08:10 PM (T1005)
280 any yet next year she'll be voting in Chicago
condolences for you and your family
60 is too young
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 08:10 PM (vJL//)
No word on if Keith asked Jerry to help him move ..
Posted by: kbdabear at September 18, 2013 12:09 AM
Nice game, PRETTY BOY!
Posted by: Newman at September 17, 2013 08:10 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 08:11 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:11 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 08:11 PM (8RtZ8)
281 good luck on the hunt
plus a job will keep your mind humming along and active
and more cash of course
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 08:11 PM (vJL//)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:11 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: doug at September 18, 2013 12:06 AM (uJ8q7)
Sigh. Is it really so fucking hard to click the link and at least scan the article for mentions of the Naturalization Act of 1790 (hint: it's there)?
I know this is the internet and all but this kind of laziness and willful continued ignorance among morons is just demoralizing.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 08:12 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 08:12 PM (0SmH0)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 08:12 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 08:12 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 17, 2013 08:13 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 12:07 AM (vJL//)
Maet is not here - there is only Cranky Maet. And Zool.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 08:13 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 17, 2013 08:14 PM (j/FJV)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 08:14 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: orange 9mm at September 17, 2013 08:15 PM (CwqiX)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 08:15 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:15 PM (GEICT)
in the ocean get nibbled at, eventually the flesh around the ankle is
nibbled clear, the foot separates, and the shoe, which is a little
buoyant, carries the foot away from the nibbler.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 17, 2013 11:59 PM ....................Which is why when I travel I never ever feel comfortable in the ocean. I mean you're part of the food chain then. Even though I have to deal with 7 months of cold weather, there's really nothing in the waters that will kill you. Well except hypothermia.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 17, 2013 08:15 PM (bXdYS)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 08:16 PM (LpbKr)
I'll even give him credit on the baby comment.... the older I get the more I realize I don't know (and the more painful my stupid youth becomes).
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at September 17, 2013 08:16 PM (L4CWX)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:16 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: mindful webworker safely in the middle of the continent at September 17, 2013 08:16 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: boulder texan hobo at September 17, 2013 08:16 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 08:17 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at September 17, 2013 08:17 PM (0SmH0)
Affleck Batman - reboot of Adam West batman?
Zing, POW!
Posted by: Ponderosa at September 17, 2013 08:17 PM (5nur/)
Posted by: doug at September 18, 2013 12:06 AM (uJ8q7)
Sigh. Is it really so fucking hard to click the link and at least scan the article for mentions of the Naturalization Act of 1790 (hint: it's there)?
I know this is the internet and all but this kind of laziness and willful continued ignorance among morons is just demoralizing.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 18, 2013 12:12 AM (pAlYe)
don't bother with doug. All his posts consist of "All you bloggers here are doing is attempting to slam good candidates so useless ones like Romney get picked." Every post, all the time, even if you are writing something in support of Cruz or Rand Paul. He's nothing more than an unhappy little man with cheeto stained underwear.
Posted by: buzzion at September 17, 2013 08:17 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Gen. George Patton at September 17, 2013 08:17 PM (l3vZN)
Points to ponder: does Dr Peter Venkman bring syringes of thorazine to all his first dates?
Posted by: boulder texan hobo at September 17, 2013 08:18 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 17, 2013 08:18 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 17, 2013 08:18 PM (j/FJV)
Posted by: UWP at September 17, 2013 08:20 PM (vj51i)
Read the article please.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 11:05 PM (pAlYe)
Uh.... Did.... the 1790 bill was Altered in 1796... changing that exact language.
You know.... like... oh.... crap... maybe that wasn't what we really wanted?
Kinda like.... oh.... ObamaCare?
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 17, 2013 08:20 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 08:22 PM (8RtZ8)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:22 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:23 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Daily Mail at September 17, 2013 08:23 PM (i7KmQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 18, 2013 12:16 AM (Z9EHQ)
Define "people".
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 08:23 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:24 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 18, 2013 12:23 AM (Z9EHQ)
so.....whats the IP of the hidden camera in the women's bathroom?
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 08:24 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 17, 2013 08:24 PM (dK34c)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:24 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:25 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Daily Mail at September 18, 2013 12:23 AM (i7KmQ)
be easy on him, it's not easy being a Cubs and Bears fan
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 08:25 PM (vJdyz)
It tends to happen where you have a lot of Japanese immigrants. Possibly other Asian group but there is a noted history in Japan due to a mythology that says a ghost cannot follow you around to haunt you if it cannot move due to lack of feet. This ties in with the weird hopping vampires.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 17, 2013 08:25 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:26 PM (GEICT)
And you can stop dumping the leftovers in here any time.
Posted by: The Barrel at September 17, 2013 08:26 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 17, 2013 08:26 PM (j/FJV)
328 a Chicago team with a chance for glory while not one but both baseball teams are about to hit 100 season losses
that's why
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 08:26 PM (vJL//)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
Not trying to troll for sympathy. Just trying to put it in context. But yeah it's pretty hard.
Posted by: esch at September 17, 2013 08:27 PM (eEEbp)
Posted by: T-Bone at September 17, 2013 08:27 PM (Va11M)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:27 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2013 08:28 PM (8RtZ8)
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 08:28 PM (vJL//)
Posted by: boulder texan hobo at September 18, 2013 12:18 AM (d7tB2)
Better question....why doesn't everyone? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 18, 2013 12:22 AM
My favorite first date line is always "Excuse me, but does this handkerchief smell like cloroform?"
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 17, 2013 08:29 PM (DCC9P)
Loose connection somewhere. May be affected by heat expansion. Used to see that constantly in computers and other electronics but not so much any more because of high integration.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 17, 2013 08:29 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:29 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: adams pegg porn at September 17, 2013 08:29 PM (gQKHE)
uggh
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 12:27 AM (vJL//)
at least the Brewers have made it to the World Series in the last 31 years
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 08:30 PM (vJdyz)
UWP - check YouTube for make & model of TV for a repair/troubleshooting video. There is a chance it could be a $5 capacitor.
The cap and a little soldering might fix it.
Posted by: Ponderosa at September 17, 2013 08:30 PM (5nur/)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 08:30 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: mindful webworker defies all statistics at September 17, 2013 08:30 PM (U13jb)
hey, the kid's done making dinner so later peeps in the little boxes
remember....if its a glock it sucks
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 08:30 PM (vJL//)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:30 PM (Z9EHQ)
Hmm. Does the name "Pressie" mean anything to you?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 17, 2013 08:31 PM (JNUY4)
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 08:33 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Eddie Haskell at September 17, 2013 08:33 PM (Va11M)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:33 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 17, 2013 08:34 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again at September 18, 2013 12:29 AM (DCC9P)
I had some friends take me kayaking on a local lake...after we got about 100 yards offshore, their first question was: "So, do you know how to swim?
Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2013 08:34 PM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Lumpy Rutherford at September 17, 2013 08:34 PM (Va11M)
I'll not apologize, but wear it as a badge on honor,,,
Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road again and has been in The Barrel™ at September 17, 2013 08:35 PM (DCC9P)
Posted by: mindful webworker - fun time's over at September 17, 2013 08:35 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 17, 2013 08:36 PM (Z9EHQ)
Every food product in the movie is like that. The Ralphs chain had recently gone big in promoting their generic packaging store brand items in boxes or bags with plain white and a blue stripe near the bottom. It was plainly the inspiration for the cost saving tactic in the movie that avoided showing any brand names whenever possible,
Posted by: Epobirs at September 17, 2013 08:37 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 17, 2013 08:37 PM (X9Mnx)
328 a Chicago team with a chance for glory while not one but both baseball teams are about to hit 100 season losses
that's why Posted by: navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 12:26 AM
As a fan of the Mets and Jets, let me tell you about pain
Posted by: kbdabear at September 17, 2013 08:37 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 18, 2013 12:36 AM (Z9EHQ)
eh, jerking off is the best quick to sleep aid
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 08:39 PM (vJdyz)
Hmm. Does the name "Pressie" mean anything to you?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 18, 2013 12:31 AM (JNUY4)
To say nothing of Giardia.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 08:39 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:39 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: barbarausa at September 17, 2013 08:40 PM (WWeoI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 18, 2013 12:39 AM (GEICT)
no whiskey dick around here
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 08:41 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: AltonJackson
in colleger I got set up on a screw your roommate blind date. we went out for dinner and a movie. she chose the movie. it was the one where jodie foster had a little trouble with five guys and a pinball machine. everything was a little awkward after the movie. saved all my moves for the second date.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 18, 2013 12:33 AM (Z9EHQ)
I had a first date going to Dangerous Liasons -- after all, a period movie....
There was no second date.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 08:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: barbarausa at September 17, 2013 08:43 PM (WWeoI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:44 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 17, 2013 08:47 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: RWC - MΩRΩΠ LΔβΣ at September 17, 2013 08:47 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 17, 2013 08:49 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 18, 2013 12:47 AM (GEICT)
$35 a liter which is cheap for Jack Daniels Single Barrel
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 08:52 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 17, 2013 11:04 PM (pAlYe)
And also because FUCK the bears. And BTW, this article (http://tinyurl.com/nq6glws) is the funniest thing I've read in years, and its even funnier because the comments devolve into an argument about whether using two spaces after a period is correct or not. ROTFLMMFAO!!!
Evening roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 17, 2013 08:55 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 17, 2013 08:55 PM (YgooA)
Posted by: UWP at September 17, 2013 08:58 PM (vj51i)
I guess that didn't work out so good, since we got a defacto one of those right now.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 17, 2013 08:59 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 17, 2013 09:03 PM (xa1/W)
I guess that didn't work out so good, since we got a defacto one of those right now.
Posted by: Purp at September 18, 2013 12:59 AM (9MLX+)
Prince Soetero of the Choom Bus?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 09:04 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 17, 2013 09:08 PM (j/FJV)
Posted by: Weirddave at September 17, 2013 09:08 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 09:12 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Joe at September 17, 2013 09:15 PM (8Prb7)
I was catching up and hadn't come to your post yet. It was a "Ooh, I know this one!" moment that demanded immediate action.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 17, 2013 09:16 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Dude's toilet at September 17, 2013 09:16 PM (LpbKr)
There's a reason Paul got a lengthy timeout from his posting privileges there but apparently, the lesson's worn off.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 17, 2013 09:17 PM (FvyJS)
Posted by: Dude's toilet at September 18, 2013 01:16 AM (LpbKr)
mate, I've been peeing out my asshole all night from chilli so vOv
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 09:18 PM (vJdyz)
yes.
next question.
Posted by: Adriane... at September 18, 2013 01:08 AM (j/FJV)
Actually, it's a slightly more nuanced question than that. Two spaces after a period is for English-language typed documents. It can be problematic in other contexts -- such as programming code or typesetting. The reason it's such a big point of friction is that people today are much more likely to be intermixing different kinds of keyboarded information with different rules.
Another classic example is quotes. It is perfectly fine to say, "I hope things work well." But, alternatively, you also sometimes tell someone to try "pjmedia.com". And, of course, this makes proofreading a horror.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 09:23 PM (T1005)
Posted by: a pirate at September 17, 2013 09:23 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 17, 2013 09:29 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 09:36 PM (T1005)
So I went to McDs to get some engineered food, and Alan Colmes was accidentally on the radio, spinning madly. In the few moments before I was able to get my finger to press the button and switch it back to the hippity hoppity station, he said so even if this shooter might have been an Obama fan, he was sure that there should be a study which, he was assured, would prove most of the mass shootings are being done by RWNJs, in spite of the readily available facts. Of course, since he is a "journalist", I wouldn't expect him to actually do the research and go out and read the available information, because Google is hard.
It's amazing, these folks will simply believe whatever they want to support their positions, regardless of the facts. I suppose the same would apply to those on our side who would countenance scientologist dogma because the Smiths were appropriately shocked by Miley or because they hate the edumacation establishment ...
Posted by: Joe at September 17, 2013 09:38 PM (8Prb7)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 17, 2013 09:39 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 17, 2013 09:44 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 18, 2013 01:29 AM (X9Mnx)
I shaved a week ago, painful to lose the beard (though it's almost back now)
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 09:44 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 17, 2013 09:46 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2013 09:49 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 01:39 AM (kcfmt)
<insert obligatory "old skool" quote here>
Yeah, that's how I learned it, and that's the more thoroughly documented way to do it....but such are the rules of grammar that they evolve over time, and I suspect that this one is evolving. It remains to be seen whether textbooks will follow standard "in-the-field" usage before or after they receive their mandatory gender-norming LGBT makeover.
What I do most often is consider the nature of the quoted material. If I am relating the event, then the quote encompasses the punctuation -- e.g. Jane told me, "You could never be good enough." If I am effectively seizing the quoted material, either from another context or from another definition, and using it verbatim, then the quotes go with the material as "handles". Of course, I also tend to use multiple levels of punctuation in the same odd way -- for instance, I might ask, "how cool is 'kewl'?" To me, that's the most natural way forward.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 09:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 18, 2013 01:46 AM (X9Mnx)
Part of it is knowing the rules before you decide how you'll apply them. I actually wrote an essay in High School on the subject, where I started it off with:
On the Meaning of Life...
...and lousy titles. And went right on with my introductory paragraph here -- because the instructor and I had just had a discussion about titles not being part of the text of the essay, and shouldn't be used to further the exposition.
I don't feel compelled to write within my spellchecker, but I shouldn't violate rules (or substitute my own) unless I know 'em.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 10:03 PM (T1005)
He does a great job reinforcing the point, though he clearly doesn't realize it.
http://tinyurl.com/kz9t6qc
Posted by: Dave S. at September 17, 2013 10:07 PM (UvR6d)
He does a great job reinforcing the point, though he clearly doesn't realize it.
http://tinyurl.com/kz9t6qc
Posted by: Dave S. at September 18, 2013 02:07 AM (UvR6d)
There are none so blind as those who choose not to see.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 10:10 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 17, 2013 10:14 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: rickl at September 17, 2013 10:16 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 01:39 AM (kcfmt)
Programmers have been known to violate that rule - and sometimes apparently inconsistently - because of how things like parens affect code.
Just one more enemy the poor English language faces.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 18, 2013 02:14 AM (qyfb5)
Mero raises a great point. While I might use my rule consistently in casual and business correspondence, and I might use classic textbook quotes consistently in English papers or articles for publication, doing either inconsistently is just wrong, wrong, wrong.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 10:19 PM (T1005)
Has anyone seen the keys to my 1942 Willys Jeep?
Jus askin.......
Posted by: Richard at September 18, 2013 02:33 AM (m12E4)
Do those even have keys?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 10:34 PM (T1005)
Program listings are a big pain in the ass for e-books. I'm still intent on doing the collection of Jerry's old Byte columns. The one I left off on had some listings of Pascal code. There is just no way that I can find to reproduce that style of layout in the Kindle or EPUB formats. I'm probably going to enter it in MS Publisher so I can output it as an image and put that in the book. Fortunately, that type of thing didn't appear much in most years of the column.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 17, 2013 10:37 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 17, 2013 10:46 PM (0axsw)
This goes back to Rousseau's "nobel savage." Yep it has been Locke v. Rousseau since the 18th century
Posted by: bill-o at September 17, 2013 10:50 PM (AWwDY)
Posted by: Joe at September 17, 2013 10:54 PM (8Prb7)
Program listings are a big pain in the ass for e-books. I'm still intent on doing the collection of Jerry's old Byte columns. The one I left off on had some listings of Pascal code. There is just no way that I can find to reproduce that style of layout in the Kindle or EPUB formats. I'm probably going to enter it in MS Publisher so I can output it as an image and put that in the book. Fortunately, that type of thing didn't appear much in most years of the column.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 02:37 AM (kcfmt)
I know very well that classic grammar texts would have the single quote to the right of the question mark.....and I suspect I'm older than you. If you're intermixing various sources of information in print, it makes sense to use quotes as "handles" (attached to the thing [note the period outside the quotes in the original sentence]) when manipulating the thing, and to use quotes as "signifiers" (structured as part of the sentence) when blended into the narrative. It's logical, I can be consistent with it, and -- most important! -- it works, even when quoting code and tweets and L33T-speak and instructions and other garbage.
Incidentally, I'm finding BYTE issues all the time and setting them aside -- and plan to be in SoCal in early November.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 10:57 PM (T1005)
the left that children are naturally wise and intelligent until they're
tainted by modern society.
This goes back to Rousseau's "nobel savage." Yep it has been Locke v. Rousseau since the 18th century
Posted by: bill-o at September 18, 2013 02:50 AM (AWwDY)
Don't forget Calvin and Hobbes!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 10:58 PM (T1005)
Eligible does not imply should be considered to me.
vs.
Under the law existing at the time of their birth, each became a citizen of the United States at birth. Rubio and Jindal by the 14th Amendment, Cruz by statute
and
There are strong arguments in favor of Rubio, Jindal and Cruz each being a “natural born Citizen” as that term most reasonably can be understood through its plain text because they became citizens by birth.
That makes sense. Lawyers always gotta be typing moar.
It's good to see somebody bitching about the birther smear tactic too. Pisses me off since I actually have to dig out my real Cook County BC complete with notary seal, embossed, footyprint, actual Dads name, dated in a November Snowstorm as Mom reminds me every year, every damn time I actually manage to find a job.
Posted by: DaveA at September 17, 2013 11:05 PM (DL2i+)
But not everybody can be Mark Zuckerberg. The job is taken. And only a very few can be among those who help a Zuckerberg build his company and become immensely wealthy in his wake. But Lucy does exist and isn't hard to find. She has existed in every generation but circumstances have made her more common.
Is the system badly broken? Yep, more so than most imagine. But the current batch of young adults only served to make it worse by predominantly voting for the people who thinks the system is fine and needs to become even more so. 'Fine' in this case being a return to feudalism.
If you're a Gen Y voter who went for Obama, my sympathy is limited. What little I have is due to my belief that the under 30 voter is given a responsibility that they aren't ready to handle yet. It is a rare young adult who knows enough of how things work and the history of how things went downhill to make a good choice.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 17, 2013 11:05 PM (kcfmt)
There is a reason they call it the Bitter Coin of Experience.
Posted by: navybrat at September 17, 2013 11:08 PM (kb15h)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 03:05 AM (kcfmt)
Well, in their defense, it's not like they've received any sort of quality education that might have prepared them for this responsibility....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 11:19 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 02:53 AM
I like money.
Posted by: otho at September 17, 2013 11:21 PM (9gNQd)
My English teacher would consistently ding my essays for violating the US rule, but it just didn't seem logical to do it "right" the majority of the time. If I was smarter then, I'd rephrase everything to avoid that scenario ...
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 17, 2013 11:22 PM (oA43P)
My English teacher would consistently ding my essays for violating the US rule, but it just didn't seem logical to do it "right" the majority of the time. If I was smarter then, I'd rephrase everything to avoid that scenario ...
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 18, 2013 03:22 AM (oA43P)
I suspect that the "random internet sources" are using a commonsense method based on inclusions of quotes from various sources. To the best of my knowledge, however, standard English (UK) usage is punctuation within the quotes. And, when it's important to appear edjumicated, it is a desirable job skill to write such sentences -- even if it forces some awkward restructuring.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 11:32 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 02:53 AM
I like money.
Posted by: otho at September 18, 2013 03:21 AM (9gNQd)
Yo! How's it hangin'? Any news from Galba and Vespasian?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2013 11:34 PM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 03:34 AM
Hey, C-rock! It's hanging fine. Well, so say certain vestal virgins who shall remain nameless, anyway. Having fun and getting shitfaced with my praetorian homies. Galba's kind of dead, unfortunately. His head fell off. Bummer really, I kinda liked that old grunt. The V-man's doing his thing and putting the smack down on some dude's. We're pretty tight these days. Dunno about that porky fuck Vitellius, though. He's giving me the shits.
Posted by: otho at September 17, 2013 11:42 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 17, 2013 11:43 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 17, 2013 11:45 PM (j/FJV)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 17, 2013 11:46 PM (j/FJV)
Great link Epobirs.
Fragging on twitter over SBUX asking people to stop bringing guns into their stores due to the open carry stunts and harassment of customers by the banners. How do y'all feel about these open carry stunters? Seems to me they are their own worse enemy - making the other side's point for them by grandstanding. The fragging tonight is an excellent case in point ...
Posted by: Joe at September 17, 2013 11:47 PM (8Prb7)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 17, 2013 11:51 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 17, 2013 11:54 PM (qyfb5)
Mmmm, Pocky. Store was blowing it out for 49 cents a box today. Sell by date still over a month away.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 17, 2013 11:55 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Deety at September 17, 2013 11:57 PM (JOXw+)
Posted by: bill-o at September 18, 2013 02:50 AM (AWwDY)
Don't forget Calvin and Hobbes!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 02:58 AM (T1005)
heh! good one
Posted by: bill-o at September 17, 2013 11:58 PM (AWwDY)
Posted by: Deety at September 18, 2013 03:57 AM (JOXw+)
.....and we loves ya for it!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 12:02 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 12:04 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 12:05 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 12:08 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: bill-o at September 18, 2013 02:50 AM (AWwDY)
Don't forget Calvin and Hobbes!
Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 02:58 AM (T1005)
heh! good one
Posted by: bill-o at September 18, 2013 03:58 AM (AWwDY)
When I think of how many people enjoyed the strip because they "thought it was funny", when they didn't get past the surface of the multi-layered humor.....I just shake my head. Watterson is such a a freakin' genius, I feel like I should be doing the "I'm not worthy!" thing. His ability to illustrate profound philosophy in simple words and pictures is amazing.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 12:10 AM (T1005)
Can we deport David Brooks? Finally?
Not only will those refrigerators not work but they'll also be twice as expensive and too big to fit in most kitchen insets. So look forward to them being in the garage.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 12:13 AM (lAZep)
Posted by: Deety at September 18, 2013 12:15 AM (JOXw+)
Posted by: Joe at September 18, 2013 12:17 AM (8Prb7)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 12:21 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 12:22 AM (qyfb5)
Jaden is a VERY common boy's name these days. One of those trendy things. I've got an infant grandnephew with that label.
If we're still pretending to have elections in 2050, one of the candidates will probably be a Jaden. One of his opponents will be known by a series of clicks, pops, and whistles, with an unpronounceable symbol appearing on campaign materials.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 12:26 AM (kcfmt)
It could be worse. You could be an immortal expected to produce a sword at any moment. Jillian Horvath, who was a writer and story editor for the TV series said there was a guy who was always called Pierre, after the first guy to have the job. This job was to stand just off camera and hand Adrian Paul or another actor their sword. The actor would pretend to reach into his coat and draw out his sword but all there was to it was a small shiny object that looked in the resulting footage like a long shiny object if you whipped it past fast enough. Then, when the actor had his arm at full extension with his hand just outside the frame, the Pierre of the moment would place the sword in his hand. Cheap and effective.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 12:34 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: beavis at September 18, 2013 12:36 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Deety at September 18, 2013 12:39 AM (JOXw+)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 12:43 AM (qyfb5)
Yeah Merovign, how'd you guess?
I guess I'm dealing with it better in that I've either transcended or become desesitized to the dread and fear.
Either way, just gots to poke along. But I suppose you know that as well as any of us.
Don't want to sound like a Snowflake but I nonetheless sometimes cannot believe this is "happening" to me...still!
I hope you'll forgive the construction. It seems I need a little bit of "entitled" outrage mixed in with some acknowledgement of loss of agency to keep wanting to get up and try it again, and again, and again.
Posted by: Deety at September 18, 2013 04:39 AM (JOXw+)
{{{}}}
I know it sucks. I haven't lived it, yet, but I've seen enough. I know it sucks.
Keep on hangin' in. And know you can find friends here.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 12:43 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Deety at September 18, 2013 04:39 AM (JOXw+)
Word, homegirl. I find myself not that stressed most of the time, the sound of the meteor entering the atmosphere is oddly soothing.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 18, 2013 04:43 AM (qyfb5)
The Horde hasn't done a haiku thread in a while. We should do one with the subject, "hymn to SMOD."
Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 12:46 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 01:01 AM (qyfb5)
The "boyfriend" panel is BS because the nerd will never gird his sweaty loins and actually ASK HER OUT on a date. That involves some risk. He will just wait on the periphery like the passive squish he is.
Yes I'm bitter. Too many crushes admitted when it's too late.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 18, 2013 01:02 AM (G93ZW)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 01:09 AM (qyfb5)
Mero did nicely
Within the form composing
A crystalline thought
Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 01:12 AM (T1005)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 18, 2013 05:02 AM (G93ZW)
*sigh* Yep, we all learn too late. Better to live with scars than regrets.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 18, 2013 01:25 AM (xa1/W)
I'd been 1/8 wondering about that for ages in movies and TV but told myself to knock it off.
Long, loooong time ago, I played Hamlet to my late friend Brian's Laertes in Stoppard's Dogg's Hamlet (they set it in a girls Catholic school) and as much of a farce as that play is, we had our fight scenes choreographed by fencer Robert Anderson (Princess Bride, anyone?!?! Well,I was thrilled.)
Eh, I spent the summer before learning fencing (or at least how develop the stamina to sustain the correct attitudes and postures whilst being run up & down without actually crying) from an Olympic hopefull up in Evanston, Il.
So, when the Fall came around there were rehearsals and all kinds of neat things happened in the play but I will never forget the fight/dance that "Bob" coached us through which was as slick and sophisticated and dare I say it, dramatic a piece of 4 min. stage action as you'd ever want to see, followed up by us both dying the cheesiest stage deaths possible (part of the whole play).
The premise of the play, is that it takes place inside a school play of Hamlet. So we got wooden swords, but actually balanced, wooden swords that looked more fakey (as they should) than they were. So, we kept them with us at all times as the most expensive props the school had spent on EVAR.
"No! No! Hamlet! You need more extension! This needs to be graceful and vicious. Won't ever read right (on the stage) unless you are quick, quick quick! What are you high, Laertes? (Prolly he wuz) Hamlet's going to kill you! Defend! Oh, at least postion yourself properly. Please?"
Soo...
Both Brian & I lived in the suburbs and sometimes had to wait in the NW Train Station in Chicago waiting for the last trains out to our respective towns after rehearsals.
"How much time 'till your train?"
"45 min. You?"
"I've got an Hour and 5 min. Fuuuuck!"
"Wanna go get McDonalds?"
"Nah, I can't afford it, besides there's a bunch of sailors down there (Great Lakes).
They cleared out as Sailors often do
And so, bored Brian and I started the short-lived spectacle of amazing sword-fights on the food-court level of a mostly deserted train-station, clackety clacking with our wooden swords.
First time we did draw some ire and concern from security which was quickly allayed by those that had seen us seperately carrying them to and fro as part of our "homework" as part of a school play.
Became kind of a thing for station employees as we extended our rehearsal sessions into the dull times when we had to wait around for the 8PM something trains in a dead station.
Brian & I caused an inadvertant rush on tickets by "complete strangers"!
Back to YOUR original pointe.
Neither of us ever quite figured out how to gracefully manage a book-bag, heavy coat (long or short) a sword, albeit solidly wooden with a wicked point without either ultimately carrying it (me) or wearing it (him) and both looking like a douche-bag.
Swords just do NOT belong on commuter trains or in crowds.
They tend to knock about.
Posted by: Deety at September 18, 2013 02:20 AM (JOXw+)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 02:29 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Deety at September 18, 2013 03:18 AM (JOXw+)
I don't know if most people noticed that the Professor mentioned that he relied on the research of some other lawyer and one of his co-bloggers when forming his opinion on this natural-born Citizen issue. He didn't personally dig too much. Just saying.
He should have gone to historians, people who have studied this particular topic. I believe he would have had a different opinion altogether. People tend to think this is a "legal" matter, when it is not. It will only become a legal matter when some iffy Presidential candidate wins and the opposition wants to disqualify them. Count on that.
Take Cruz for example. According to our modern day elected elites Cruz is NOT eligible due to his birth in a different country. Think I'm full of it? No. I'm not. Since the early seventies our Congresspersons, Senators, and their buddies have been trying to open the path to the Presidential office to persons born in other countries (regardless of parental citizenship), persons naturalized here, and foreign children who were adopted before the age of 18 by U.S. parents. There have been at least 15 attempts to amend Article 2 or end run it with a statute.
They claim it is "for the children", for "equality", so that our naturalized citizens don't feel like second class citizens. They mock and ridicule the chance that a "Manchurian Candidate" can win the election. They say we have "too much information" available by means of modern tech (internet) to be fooled by such a potential candidate. That's totally laughable.
All that aside, why would these elected persons spend what must amount to hundreds of hours, enlist their learned friends, and file attempt after attempt for FOUR DECADES to try and amend Article 2? For the children? You must be fucking kidding me. In 2004 SIX different elected officials, including Issa, were involved in yet another attempt to end run that Article 2 requirement. Each one of those men said that it was at least clear that "natural-born" meant to be born in the U.S.. What? Are they all birthers too? They were arguing FOR the inclusion of non-birth citizens, and had to state why they are not currently eligible. What has changed since then?
Is this country still a prize to drool over? Is this tiny protection that was written into our Constitution germane today? This is the single solitary thing that was meant to, and has kept the office of the President of the U.S. safe from foreign influence likely to have inherent emotional or familial attachment to another nation.
But whatever.
Posted by: ChrisT at September 18, 2013 07:03 AM (i0yTO)
Posted by: Federale at September 18, 2013 07:18 AM (ceoOP)
Posted by: 11B40 at September 18, 2013 08:02 AM (NLrKV)
As to McCain, yes - the Panama Canal Zone was US territory when McCain was born there. Even back in the 1700s that was considered to be a "natural born citizen". "Parents in service" to ones country was the qualifier. McCain was specifically mentioned in the Feb. 2004 H. J. Res. "Maximizing Voter Choice". Oh, yes - poor McCain might suffer legal challenges to running (if he so chose to do) if we didn't pass this resolution. It's urgent. gah
I advise anyone and everyone who has any nasty thing to voice towards "birthers" to read that proposal. Over and over those duplicitous bastards claim that they are just in it for the poor little children who look up at them with tear filled eyes, weeping over the heartbreak of being barred from the chance to be President of the United States. Oh, the humanity! *sniff*
I wish I could post a screenshot or a link here to even one of these J.R. records. If more people would READ instead of emote we might have a reasonable discussion instead of name calling.
Four decades this has been going on.
Posted by: ChrisT at September 18, 2013 08:10 AM (i0yTO)
THAT clause in the Constitution does not mean jack - if you don't think a candidate is qualified voted for someone else.
- Pure Constitutional Scholar Brilliance.
Posted by: A Day Late and a Dollar Short at September 18, 2013 04:16 PM (80R0X)
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Da BEARS are 2-0!!!!
and the packers AREN'T
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2013 06:44 PM (vJL//)