September 18, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (9-18-2013)
— Maetenloch

Let's Party Like It's 1989

Because after 5 years of Obama it is 1989 income-wise.

A Census Bureau report released on Tuesday reveals that the typical American family now earns less than it did in 1989. In 1989, median household income was $51,681 (in current dollars). In 2012, median household income was $51,017.

Poverty levels in 2012 also climbed to 46.5 million Americans-15% of the country-from 46.2 million in 2011. As Washington Post economics writer Neil Irwin put it, "This isn't a lost decade for economic gains for Americans. It is a lost generation."
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The 1% Are Again Getting Richer. Should the 99% Really Care?

Well I've never been bothered by this kind of inequality statistic since I've always figured that 1) the wealthy will always do well since they have access to better resources, info, tools, expertise etc. and 2) the pie isn't fixed - every extra dollar Trump makes does not make me poorer.

But the mere existence of inequality is an obsession of the Left and occupies a large part of their mind space. Hell their mental living room is mostly filled with constant concern over what the top 1% are up to - a population smaller than San Antonio who they'll likely never meet or interact with in any way.

But even an unabashed right-wing capitalist like myself has to pause for a second after seeing a chart like this:

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Looking at the upper right you can see that the top 10% of earners took in 50.4% of all income last year, the highest share recorded since 1917 when the government began collecting data. That's a pretty huge differential and no doubt it sticks in the craw of a lot of people. But on the other hand is it really that much of a problem?

Well James Pethokoukis makes a good argument that as a dramatic a ratio as this is it's ultimately due to market forces rather than say cronyism or corruption. Nor is it necessarily coming at the expense of the 99% or apparently limiting the economic mobility of those in the non-1%. So maybe not an issue after all.

And even if it were an issue,  all the proposed solutions to it by economists (top income tax rates > 75%, confiscatory inheritance taxes, etc.) would likely cause more harm to the average person than the income inequality itself.

Meet the Illegal Alien 'Dreamer' Poster Child

Her name is Alaa and she was born in Kuwait but grew up in Chicago and studied Architecture.
Turn-offs: the American government, white people, the American Flag, and Israel.
Turn-ons: Community organizing, Palestinian nationalism, brown people, and beautiful ocean sunsets.
She's here illegally and demands a drivers license and a green card. Oh and it's all Israel's fault.

Why do all of you rightwing nut-jobs hate hard-working immigrants like Alaa?

Mukahhal

The TSA is Officially Allowed to Lie to You in Order to Cover Their Ass

Even if you file a FOIA request they can still flat out lie to you.

U.S. District Judge Joan A. Lenard granted the TSA the special privilege of not needing to go that route, rubber-stamping the decision of the TSA and the airport authority to write to me that no CCTV footage of the incident existed when, in fact, it did. This footage is non-classified and its existence is admitted by over a dozen visible camera domes and even signage that the area is being recorded. Beyond that, the TSA regularly releases checkpoint video when it doesn't show them doing something wrong (for example, here's CCTV of me beating their body scanners). But if it shows evidence of misconduct? Just go ahead and lie.

deadpool151

Cass Sunstein: How Human Psychology Is Holding Back Climate Change Action

The first obstacle is that people tend to evaluate risks by way of "the availability heuristic," which leads them to assess the probability of harm by asking whether a readily available example comes to mind. An act of terrorism, for example, is likely to be both available and salient, and hence makes people fear that another such event will occur (whether it is likely to or not). So, too, a recent crime or accident can activate attention and significantly inflate people's assessment of risk.

By contrast, climate change is difficult to associate with any particular tragedy or disaster.

...Second, people tend to be especially focused on risks or hazards that have an identifiable perpetrator, and for that reason produce outrage. Warmer temperatures are a product not of any particular human being or group, but the interaction between nature and countless decisions by countless people. There are no obvious devils or demons -- no individuals who intend to create the harms associated with climate change. For terrorism, a "we-they" narrative fits the facts; in the context of climate change, those who are the solution might well also be, or seem to be, the problem. In these circumstances, public outrage is much harder to fuel.

Third, human beings are far more attentive to immediate threats than to long-term ones.

Actually I'd say that this set of psychological 'obstacles' is a pretty good filter for separating bullshit imaginary threats from ones we need to actually worry about. So maybe 5th dimensional Quasi-Morphs are currently hunting humans and will eat us all in less than 25 years - but until we start seeing actual Quasi-Morph ecto-gnawed bodies it's not worth our time to worry about this particular threat.

The Last Men of the Revolution

We have no photographs of the Revolutionary war but some of the men who fought in it lived long enough to have daguerreotypes made.

lemuel-cook

Research Suggests That More Intelligent People Drink More, And Begin Earlier In Life

So you have that going for you. Or not.

Kelsey Grammer Is Joining 'The Expendables 3'?

Grammer is near a deal to play the role of Bonaparte, an ex-mercenary who helps the Expendables in their mission. While Grammer was long identified for playing the mild-mannered shrink-turned-radio host Dr. Frasier Crane, he has transformed into a Hollywood tough guy. Most of that came from him playing a ferocious powerbroker in the recently canceled Starz series Boss.

Well it goes against his usual casting which means it could be a surprisingly awesome role for him.

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Le AoSHQ groupe de Yahoo. Ooh la la!

Yahoo group. That is all.

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Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 06:38 PM (HVff2)

2 Giggity

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 06:38 PM (wNF3N)

3 Hi horde. Great ont

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 06:38 PM (HVff2)

4 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson is on the road at September 18, 2013 06:39 PM (DCC9P)

5 I'm thinking of an animal and numbers That's all Howdy all

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 06:40 PM (7D6bD)

6 What up all?

Posted by: EC at September 18, 2013 06:40 PM (doBIb)

7 5 I'm thinking of an animal and numbers That's all Howdy all Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 10:40 PM (7D6bD) Panthers 0-2?

Posted by: EC at September 18, 2013 06:41 PM (doBIb)

8 Hope that muzzie biotech in the Windy City doesn't become another statistic. Worthless twat

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 06:41 PM (HVff2)

9 Help me Mr. Wizard!

Posted by: SuaveJav at September 18, 2013 06:41 PM (qQk+U)

10 ONT ONT YAY !!!!!!! 😎

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at September 18, 2013 06:43 PM (54VAq)

11 I started drinking at age 2; draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 06:43 PM (wNF3N)

12 Ugggh The alaa broad Why a tornado needs to hit Devon ave

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 06:43 PM (7D6bD)

13 5 I'm thinking of an animal and numbers
That's all


Gorilla 69? Because that's always been my dream.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at September 18, 2013 06:43 PM (bKA83)

14 Cass Sunstein bangs Samantha Power.

His argument is invalid.

Posted by: logprof at September 18, 2013 06:44 PM (bufJH)

15 TWELVE!

...(nine)

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 06:44 PM (lq3Ak)

16 7. I'm giving maet a break till Sunday night Then it's on baby!!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 06:44 PM (7D6bD)

17 I started drinking at age 2; draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 10:43 PM (wNF3N)



Milk is a gateway drug.  Cheers y'all.

Posted by: NC Ref at September 18, 2013 06:45 PM (Myqtp)

18 Cass Sunstein invented eating bags of dicks.
 
I'm giving him full credit.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 06:45 PM (wNF3N)

19 Not a whole lot pisses me off more than illegal immigrants. Good evening, Horde.

Posted by: Gingy at September 18, 2013 06:46 PM (jt8G9)

20 Damn I'm trying to nap in the back seat and there are cars full of little soccer kids showing up Damn

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 06:46 PM (7D6bD)

21 re: Cass Sunstein

Sometimes I think 60% of academia these days consists of loads of reasoning from false premises.

Another 30% is pomo, which contains no reasoning at all.

Another 10% is still good. Thank goodness for STEM.

Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 06:46 PM (bKA83)

22 I thought she choked on a tuna sandwich ?

Posted by: SuaveJav at September 18, 2013 06:46 PM (qQk+U)

23 Re: initiation of alcohol abuse . . .

Does sneaking snorts of Vicks 44 (the old stuff, back in the '60's) in my dad's (way-cool, non-orthogonal) closet count?  Or asking for one or two too many extra glasses of Mogen David wine at Thanksgiving dinner, does that count?

Asking for a friend . . .

Posted by: filbert at September 18, 2013 06:46 PM (7vimm)

24 >> Milk with bourbonis a gateway drug. Cheers y'all.
 
FIFY

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 06:47 PM (wNF3N)

25 17 invented the bag of dicks and eating them I say.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 06:47 PM (HVff2)

26 Milk is a gateway drug

Where's the BOURBON?!

Posted by: steve dallas's first sentence at September 18, 2013 06:47 PM (d7tB2)

27
Kelsey Grammer Is Joining The Expendables 3




"Niles, hand me that RPG and be quick about it!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 18, 2013 06:47 PM (kdS6q)

28 Kelsey Grammer would make an awesome villain for Ex3. He's got that sophisticated Bond villain intelligence and demeanor about him.

Posted by: EC at September 18, 2013 06:47 PM (doBIb)

29 well, gnu beat me to it.

but berkeley breathed gets credit

Posted by: boulder texan hobo at September 18, 2013 06:48 PM (d7tB2)

30 I hear TFG Obama is expendable, just sayin

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 06:49 PM (HVff2)

31 Anyone in or around Philly going to the Mt Airy Street Fare festival Thursday night? I need someone to revive me if the smug liberal jackwagons send me into anaphylactic shock.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at September 18, 2013 06:49 PM (a5ljo)

32 Anyone have any soldering iron recommendations? I'm in the market for a new one. Mostly semi-precision jobs, electronic components, but rarely any surface-mount stuff.

Posted by: .87c at September 18, 2013 06:49 PM (qZPXs)

33 If we ever retake the White House and the Executive Branch all these liberal fucks are going to have to go back to Academia to get yobs I guess and continue to poison the minds of today's yoots.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 18, 2013 06:50 PM (jE38p)

34 16 I started drinking at age 2; draw your own conclusions. Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 10:43 PM (wNF3N) Milk is a gateway drug. Cheers y'all. Posted by: NC Ref at September 18, 2013 10:45 PM (Myqtp) I started on the tittehs as a newborn, and I've been hooked ever since.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 18, 2013 06:50 PM (BXLPR)

35 The TSA can suck the keratin off of my hairy balls.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 06:50 PM (wNF3N)

36 *Well it goes against his usual casting which means it could be a surprisingly awesome role for him. What a hack. I'm going to outshine him in Expendables 3!

Posted by: Steven Seagal at September 18, 2013 06:50 PM (Dsds2)

37 does that income chart take into account all the sports figures, movie stars and music figures who make tons of money? Does it adjust for the fact that we have millions of illegals for whom poverty in America is much better than anything they could have had in their fatherland? Does it take into account the mess that the know-it-alls have created with their regulations and laws?

Posted by: mallfly at September 18, 2013 06:50 PM (jDjlM)

38 Milk ---->  Soda ---->  Fizzy Drinks ---->  Exploration w/o helmet ---->  Beer ----> Wine ---->  Nostalgia ---->  Crack Dealer

This Evening's Flow Chart has been brought to you by "Lawnmower Beer".

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 06:51 PM (lq3Ak)

39 Hi Horde, How is rveryone?

Posted by: CarolT at September 18, 2013 06:51 PM (z4WKX)

40 Envy is the rust that attacks civilization.

Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 06:52 PM (bKA83)

41 The TSA can suck the keratin off of my hairy balls. There's a lotion for that.

Posted by: EC at September 18, 2013 06:52 PM (doBIb)

42 Howdy EC

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 18, 2013 06:53 PM (GEICT)

43 Quality ONT, Maet.  Somehow, I feel safer when you're amongst the woven.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 06:53 PM (lq3Ak)

44 39, yeah but is it OTC or do you need a script?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 06:53 PM (HVff2)

45 Capsule movie reviews:

The Way Way Back: about as wonderful as everyone says. A real movie. See it.

Oblivion: Pretty darned good, even with Scientology Wonder Boy as the star. Maybe some ripping off of another movie that I won't mention because it would spoil things.

Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 06:55 PM (bKA83)

46  *chomp chomp*

Ooops.

*closes dimension door*

Posted by: 5th dimensional Quasi-Morph at September 18, 2013 06:55 PM (sj9LN)

47 I'm really hating the new icons in iOS7 now. They look like they were made for preschoolers. Also, the bookmarks bar is on the other side of the screen. Don't like that either. I'll figure out some more stuff I don't like by tomorrow. I don't have to wait til tomorrow. The keyboard is too bright and the cap arrow is no longer blue. Crap.

Posted by: Tuna at September 18, 2013 06:55 PM (M/TDA)

48 The Ecofascists are trying to get as much as they can locked into law and budgets as their data deserts them and runs screaming from the abuse. The models they depend on keep getting further and further from reality. They really had until about 2005 to sell the scam and they never quite made it. Frankly I think people are just too damned trusting. A paranoid world is kind of a sad thing, just not as sad as a gullible world. Touching on the last thread's topic, I'm actually quite angry at the amount of science fraud that's been foisted on people. Metaphorical heads need to metaphorically roll. Oh, and the admitted fraud Gleick didn't take long to get right back on the foundation gravy train. That's the way the left deals with their crimes - Pretend It Never Happened.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 06:55 PM (qyfb5)

49 So, $45 for a dvd set of "Falling Skies". I've not seen it. Is it good? More to the point is it worth $45?

Posted by: boulder texan hobo at September 18, 2013 06:55 PM (d7tB2)

50 18 Not a whole lot pisses me off more than illegal immigrants. Good evening, Horde. Posted by: Gingy Well here is what pisses me off more than the illegal aliens, their attitude that they have a RIGHT to all the rights and benefits of citizens and immigrants who came here legally.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2013 06:56 PM (mHUKK)

51 My biggest problem with any of these percentile comparisons is that it implicit that it's the same people in the category year after year.  We still have more mobility than most between income categories, but that won't last as we construct more and more obstacles to risktaking.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 18, 2013 06:56 PM (UvR6d)

52 Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I wish I could get that monkey off my back.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 06:56 PM (qyfb5)

53 The city of Chicago registered more homicides than any city in the nation in 2012, surpassing even New York — despite the fact that the Second City has only one third as many residents as the Big Apple. In new crime statistics released Monday, the Federal Bureau of Investigation reported 500 murders in Chicago in 2012, up sharply from the 431 recorded in 2011. New York reported 419 murders last year, compared with 515 in 2011.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 18, 2013 06:56 PM (e8kgV)

54 Sup BC!

Posted by: EC at September 18, 2013 06:56 PM (doBIb)

55 ...any lotion should be 'Paba-Free'.

Why?  I owned a tanning salon and couldn't tell you why.  I went pro-paba fifteen years ago.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 06:56 PM (lq3Ak)

56 The political candidate that promises to eliminate the TSA gets my vote.

Posted by: holygoat at September 18, 2013 06:57 PM (HYFht)

57 30 Anyone have any soldering iron recommendations? I'm in the market for a new one. Mostly semi-precision jobs, electronic components, but rarely any surface-mount stuff.
Posted by: .87c at September 18, 2013 10:49 PM (qZPXs)


A decent Weller temperature-controlled soldering iron should be able to handle almost anything and usually go for less than $70.

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 18, 2013 06:57 PM (pAlYe)

58 You can always donate your money or 401k to a "poor" person Maet if you feel so badly.

"Poor" people are poor for a reason and it's not that they aren't given an opportunity or "rich" people are jacking their coin.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 06:57 PM (6v9FO)

59 Hayek was all over this 1% crap.

Basically, he said "you know, all that shit you got that you really like?  Like flat-screen TVs and iPhones?  Yeah, the 1%ers bought that shit when it was like WAY expensive, and 'cause they did, they gave the manufacturers good feedback 'cause of the shit they bought and the shit they didn't buy, that's why the manufacturers got their shit together and figured out what kind of shit people really wanted, and then cranked up their manufacturing shit and cranked out good shit for the masses, and that's why you all have iPhones and flat-screen TVs today, homies."

I may have taken liberties with the idioms, there, but that's the basic argument from "The Constitution of Liberty."

Posted by: filbert at September 18, 2013 06:57 PM (7vimm)

60 @  30

   Home Depot, or your choice of hardware stores and look at the Weller guns.  They make a variety for different applications.

    Mine's been running nearly 30 years.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 18, 2013 06:57 PM (SAMxH)

61 I rate "Oblivion" as Okay. A solid B+. You won't regret checking it out of Redbox for a buck-and-half.

Posted by: boulder texan hobo at September 18, 2013 06:57 PM (d7tB2)

62 In new crime statistics released Monday, the Federal Bureau of Investigation reported 500 murders in Chicago in 2012, up sharply from the 431 recorded in 2011. New York reported 419 murders last year, compared with 515 in 2011. They estimated 600, so they're good!

Posted by: EC at September 18, 2013 06:57 PM (doBIb)

63 48 18 Not a whole lot pisses me off more than illegal immigrants. Good evening, Horde. Posted by: Gingy Well here is what pisses me off more than the illegal aliens, their attitude that they have a RIGHT to all the rights and benefits of citizens and immigrants who came here legally. Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2013 10:56 PM (mHUKK) --- And that right there is why I hate them so much. I'm a LEGAL dirty foreigner!

Posted by: Gingy at September 18, 2013 06:57 PM (jt8G9)

64 All right, need to turn in early.  Been fighting a nasty bug which I hope is just 24 hours and hoping to make it to classes tomorrow.

Good night, Horde!

Posted by: logprof at September 18, 2013 06:57 PM (bufJH)

65 51 The city of Chicago registered more homicides than any city in the nation in 2012, surpassing even New York — despite the fact that the Second City has only one third as many residents as the Big Apple.

Racist.

Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 06:57 PM (bKA83)

66 Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I wish I could get that monkey off my back.

Wait 'til you get a load of me.

Posted by: Flashback [h/t, dan simmons] at September 18, 2013 06:58 PM (d7tB2)

67 39 EC,
 
The last time the TSA got their hairy palms on me was in 2005. Sure as shit, I got singled out for 'an extended examination'. They found some kind of metal in the cuffs of my Lee jeans....
 
When they asked what they were, I said "I didn't sew the fucking things. Ask Lee." I wasn't nominated as one of their most cooperative passengers of 2005, that much I can tell you.
 
I don't fly any more since then.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 06:58 PM (wNF3N)

68 Later, logprof.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 06:58 PM (lq3Ak)

69 The political candidate that promises to eliminate the Department of Energy gets my vote.


Posted by: Reagan voters in 1980 at September 18, 2013 06:59 PM (d7tB2)

70 Cass Sunstein wants to tell everyone what to think and do. His book "Nudge" is widely read in the Obama admin.

It reminds me of a John Denver lyric:

Sunstein on my shoulder makes me happy...

Posted by: zmdavid at September 18, 2013 06:59 PM (LlY+k)

71 Income inequality *per se* isn't a problem, in our system (as it was, maybe not so much as it is), but we have so many distortions and so much political punishment and cronyism that, whatever their actual share, the result is a political issue. Joblessness, falling income, increasing expenses, inflation, energy prices, policies that harm job creation, policies that encourage part-time hiring... I'm sure it was all just an *ACCIDENT*, though.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 06:59 PM (qyfb5)

72 21 Re: initiation of alcohol abuse . . . Does sneaking snorts of Vicks 44 (the old stuff, back in the '60's) in my dad's (way-cool, non-orthogonal) closet count? Or asking for one or two too many extra glasses of Mogen David wine at Thanksgiving dinner, does that count? Asking for a friend . . . Posted by: filbert Wanna know how things have changed? My first drinking was as a high school student at wedding receptions. I can still remember my dad getting me a 7-7 at my sister's wedding. No one thought anything of it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2013 06:59 PM (mHUKK)

73 That's the problem 54, they promise to rid the ill amd spend the rest of their careers chasing that windmill. They are all worthless

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 06:59 PM (HVff2)

74 Sunstein on my shoulder makes me happy...

Sunstein on my trousers, makes me cry . . .

Posted by: filbert at September 18, 2013 07:00 PM (7vimm)

75 Cass Sunstein, boy oh boy, I'd like to fuck his a-hole with a 2x4 fuccin statist married to a zombie chich

Posted by: prurp 9mm at September 18, 2013 07:01 PM (CwqiX)

76 The last time the TSA got their hairy palms on me was in 2005. Sure as shit, I got singled out for 'an extended examination'. They found some kind of metal in the cuffs of my Lee jeans.... You lucked out compared to some old guy right in front of me coming back from vacation one year. He got picked for a "random" and they put him in the clear box and left him there. It took me 20 mins to clear the security line and make it through the metal detector. He was still there when I picked up my shoes and belt. I hope he didn't miss his flight.

Posted by: EC at September 18, 2013 07:01 PM (doBIb)

77 I don't know why but I find the Ewok pic hilarious.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at September 18, 2013 07:02 PM (Gk3SS)

78 As a German kid, we had wine at nearly every dinner.  The Polish kids drank Sterno.  We called them "weird".  They called us "Italian".

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 07:02 PM (lq3Ak)

79 75 I don't know why but I find the Ewok pic hilarious.

If you move around the room, the eyes will follow you.

Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 07:03 PM (bKA83)

80 Posted by: filbert at September 18, 2013 11:00 PM (7vimm)


Is that like the David Allan Coe song "Sunsteins on the Pillow?"

Posted by: Country Singer at September 18, 2013 07:03 PM (T7XIT)

81 wine at nearly every dinner

same here.

Posted by: boulder british hobo at September 18, 2013 07:03 PM (d7tB2)

82 56 You can always donate your money or 401k to a "poor" person Maet if you feel so badly.
"Poor" people are poor for a reason and it's not that they aren't given an opportunity or "rich" people are jacking their coin.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 10:57 PM (6v9FO)


Well I don't have feelings as you humans would know them. But it is reasonable to wonder if having economic distribution statistics that are starting to look South American might be a bad thing in general without implying I'm going to give away my deluxe sleeping pods to poor people.

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 18, 2013 07:04 PM (pAlYe)

83 I would rather drive hundreds of miles than have anything to do with the TSA. If I had to go to Japan I'd start checking to see if you could drive and if there was a ferry to the mainland. I don't need *more* reminders of the Emerging Police State I used to laugh at the idea of.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 07:04 PM (qyfb5)

84 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 07:05 PM (T1005)

85 @30

Decent soldering and rework/reflow stations can be had on ebay for $100.00

Don't forget to pick up a steel wool solder tip cup to keep that tip clean.

Never use a wet sponge to clean your tips.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 07:05 PM (6v9FO)

86 "Now, this debt ceiling -- I just want to remind people in case you haven't been keeping up -- raising the debt ceiling, which has been done over a hundred times, does not increase our debt; it does not somehow promote profligacy. All it does is it says you got to pay the bills that you've already racked up, Congress. It's a basic function of making sure that the full faith and credit of the United States is preserved."

Fuck you, you lying Quisling fuck*!

*happily stolen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2013 07:06 PM (gqgiP)

87 Evening morons. Apparently I'll be heading to Cincinnati this weekend for Oktoberfest purposes.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 18, 2013 07:06 PM (m242I)

88 Rich people aren't robbing the poor. The government is robbing everyone, it just takes much less to destroy the poor in the process.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 07:06 PM (qyfb5)

89 You lucked out compared to some old guy right in front of me coming back from vacation one year. He got picked for a "random" and they put him in the clear box and left him there. It took me 20 mins to clear the security line and make it through the metal detector. He was still there when I picked up my shoes and belt. I hope he didn't miss his flight.

He obviously forgot the magic passphrase:

"Fellatio, sir?  Or perhaps you prefer to perform sodomy?"

Posted by: filbert at September 18, 2013 07:06 PM (7vimm)

90 "She's here illegally and demands a drivers license and a green card."

Knock me over with a feather.

Unfortunately, while featuring this Junior Jihadi Jane as a poster girl for the Dream Act is a major gaffe, Dick Durbin is politically invulnerable. The fine state of Sick-inois is going to send him back to the Senate forever, no matter what stupid shit he comes up with.

However, this might turn out to be useful in embarrassing other incumbents, vulnerable next cycle, who have been pushing the Dream Act nonsense.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 18, 2013 07:06 PM (gqT4g)

91 Dear Alaa: Let me be clear: Get out of my country.

Posted by: Leonard-Pinth Garnell at September 18, 2013 07:07 PM (PtuJp)

92 I thought Quisling Fuck was a sparkling wine from the 1970s?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 18, 2013 07:08 PM (K5R1m)

93 30 Anyone have any soldering iron recommendations? I'm in the market for a new one. Mostly semi-precision jobs, electronic components, but rarely any surface-mount stuff. Posted by: .87c at September 18, 2013 10:49 PM (qZPXs) I got my Weller for like $40, the WES41 is $42 on Amazon. You can of course spend much more. Depends mainly on wattage and if there's a special feature you need, sounds like that would cover it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 07:08 PM (qyfb5)

94

Isn't Cass a fat chicks name?  Like Cass Elliot?  Who would name their little boy Cass?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 18, 2013 07:08 PM (jucos)

95 >> ...I'm going to give away my deluxe sleeping pods to poor people.
 
Those would be refrigerator boxes with pillows, if I have the terminology right?
 
Cuz I've got my own pillow.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 07:09 PM (wNF3N)

96 Quisling Fuck opened for Violent Femmes on their Norway tour

Posted by: boulder british hobo at September 18, 2013 07:09 PM (d7tB2)

97 The problem with the current income inequality is that it doesn't arise from the productivity of the 1%, nor increasing the size of the pie. It comes, in the main, from regulatory capture -- and all the proposed governmental solutions are exactly the opposite of its cure.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 07:09 PM (T1005)

98 Sorry that was the WLC100 Weller soldering station that was $42. Don't know where I got the other number from.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 07:09 PM (qyfb5)

99 @80

Good to hear, I was beginning to wonder about you.

The thought that taking from the rich and giving to the "poor" amount to anything only has to look at how much we have redistributed with the regards to the "great-society",  10's of TRILLIONS, 10's.

Yet, and yet we somehow still have poor people floating around the joint.

**scratches chin, pauses, drinks scotch, scratches, drink, .....

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 07:09 PM (6v9FO)

100 Well here is what pisses me off more than the illegal aliens, their attitude that they have a RIGHT to all the rights and benefits of citizens and immigrants who came here legally. Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2013 10:56 PM (mHUKK) --- And that right there is why I hate them so much. I'm a LEGAL dirty foreigner! Posted by: Gingy And the MFM are pushing their own liberal agenda about illegal immigrants by discussing immigrants without distinguishing between those who followed the rules and came legally and those that came illegally. It's a not so subtle way of manipulating the public's views on the issue.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2013 07:09 PM (mHUKK)

101 Anyone have any soldering iron recommendations? >>

It's been said that Weller makes good stuff. If you are willing to spend. The electronic guys at work have something like these.

http://binged.it/14kKcuE

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 07:10 PM (XjG0F)

102 92 Isn't Cass a fat chicks name? Like Cass Elliot? Who would name their little boy Cass? Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 18, 2013 11:08 PM (jucos) Worthless progressive commie slugs, that is who

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:10 PM (HVff2)

103 I would really like to comment here, but over the years, my past drinking habits have just taken me into another realm and made it impossible for me to relate to regular humans. Maybe after another few Makers Marks, I might be able to put together an understandable thought or two. I think I should take an IQ test now and see if the scale goes that high.

Hic


Posted by: Last at September 18, 2013 07:10 PM (8HiDF)

104
   I refuse to fly,something I love to do.  No more, though.

    First asshole tries to grope me there will be an "incident".

    Even though it doesn't happen to everybody, it'd be my luck.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 18, 2013 07:10 PM (SAMxH)

105 and all the proposed governmental solutions are exactly the opposite of its cure. Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 11:09 PM (T1005) We have been beating this patient with a stick for two weeks, and the bruises have still not gone away! We must redouble our efforts!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 07:11 PM (qyfb5)

106 The other problem with the income numbers is the difference between income earned and wealth consumed. Factor in the health ins and pensions (employer or government provided; neither are counted as income), welfare, food stamps, student loans used for living expenses and charity, and the bottom 90% consume a much larger share of wealth than they earn.  I can't believe it's not the highest % ever.


Posted by: Huckleberry Finn at September 18, 2013 07:11 PM (z694/)

107 Oh, and fuck the TSA with The Rusty Chainsaw Of Destiny.
 
I forgot to mention that before.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 07:11 PM (wNF3N)

108 Isn't Cass a fat chicks name? Like Cass Elliot? Who would name their little boy Cass? Posted by: Truck M nope Cass is a skinny bearded yoyo who is marrieed to Samantha Power. He was 53, she was 37 when married. Cass went full-on statist, Samantha is the responsibility to protect old bag who got the USA involved in Lybia a few years ago

Posted by: prurp 9mm at September 18, 2013 07:13 PM (CwqiX)

109 It's been said that Weller makes good stuff. If you are willing to spend. The electronic guys at work have something like these. http://binged.it/14kKcuE Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 11:10 PM (XjG0F) The analog version of that, the WES51, is almost $100 less. FYI.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 07:13 PM (qyfb5)

110 Ahhhh, nothing like a nice drive through Yellowstone, enjoying the scenery and...OH HOLY SHIT!

http://www.ktvq.com/mobile/news/the-bison-got-away/

Posted by: Country Singer at September 18, 2013 07:13 PM (T7XIT)

111

Well here is what pisses me off more than the illegal aliens, their attitude that they have a RIGHT to all the rights and benefits of citizens and immigrants who came here legally.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2013 10:56 PM (mHUKK)
---  __________________________

It would be like a group of people breaking into your house and being pissed that you only had Bud Light to give them and your toilet paper was one ply.  Fuck them.  We, in the west, are truly suicidal.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 18, 2013 07:14 PM (jucos)

112 95 - ...all the proposed governmental solutions are exactly the opposite of its cure.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 11:09 PM (T1005)

Obama has managed to set up a feedback loop in the economy where his policies cause the problems he claims they solve - so he can expand them and make the problems worse. Then he will propose expanding his fixes some more. It's how you make a Depression.  

Posted by: zmdavid at September 18, 2013 07:15 PM (LlY+k)

113 Sodering guns, razors, booze, guns the ONT has everything even a fat guy and a blob of liver. Now if I could only remember my passwords

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:15 PM (HVff2)

114 The only reason all you fools are busting on Chicago is because your 'animal' isn't as good as our 'animal'

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 07:15 PM (wNsNP)

115 On soldering gear, weller all the way Had mine since I stole it off the forrestal

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 07:16 PM (wNsNP)

116 110 Obama has managed to set up a feedback loop in the economy where his policies cause the problems he claims they solve - so he can expand them and make the problems worse. Then he will propose expanding his fixes some more. It's how you make a Depression.

I told you people.

Posted by: Ayn Rand at September 18, 2013 07:16 PM (bKA83)

117 Heard an interesting thing on talk radio this morning, that suit was brought against Obamacare because it originated in the Senate instead of the House, and calling it a tax means it violates power of the purse of the House. Any constitutional scholars who can comment?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 18, 2013 07:17 PM (m242I)

118 Time for the old folk.  Gotta rebuild a Carter Thermoquad tomorrow that has been cooking for 3 days.  Should be fun.


        Goodnite, good people.     Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 18, 2013 07:17 PM (SAMxH)

119 The analog version of that, the WES51, is almost $100 less. FYI.>>

I just looked at a hobby who's tools cost less than $200 is cheap. And I know nothing but the guys I know who do have them. But I get that the company is paying for them so convenience is cheaper.

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 07:17 PM (XjG0F)

120 Thanks, I appreciate the help! Just got a new place and am just about to start setting up a workshop. I knew you guys would know. Great body of knowledge here.

Posted by: .87c at September 18, 2013 07:18 PM (qZPXs)

121 Shut.  Off.  The.  Funding.

...Period

Play hardball for once in this political age.  For the children.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 07:18 PM (lq3Ak)

122 Happenstance and cyclic factors cause recessions; BAD POLICY causes depressions, or promotes recessions into depressions.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 18, 2013 07:18 PM (9MLX+)

123 TSA Full Body Scanners. Chuckle... Yeah, all sorts of things go through those on a pretty regular basis.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 18, 2013 07:18 PM (4p5/2)

124 Well, when Jay Cuntler has the Super Bowl ring, MVP trophy & top qb rating I might bow to you NCJ. But until then, eat cheese

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:18 PM (HVff2)

125 "Income is defined as market income (and excludes government transfers)" Does that mean that when they calculate a families' income they don't include food stamps, rent subsidies, child care, cell phone, and medicaid? Isn't the availability of all these freebies part of the reason why some people don't try very hard to get out of the underclass?

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2013 07:19 PM (mHUKK)

126 But I get that the company is paying for them so convenience is cheaper. Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 11:17 PM (XjG0F) It just depends on what features you need. If the digital readout of the tip temperature matters, you get the digital one.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 07:19 PM (qyfb5)

127 122. Damn Call me the lactose kid then

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 07:20 PM (wNsNP)

128
Never use a wet sponge to clean your tips.


I was taught to use a washcloth in the shower.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 18, 2013 07:20 PM (lr3d7)

129 @123

Isn't the availability of all these freebies part of the reason why some people don't try very hard to get out of the underclass?

Ding, ding, ding!

Get this man a cigar stat!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 07:21 PM (6v9FO)

130

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 18, 2013 11:20 PM (lr3d7)

____________________

Gold clap......

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 18, 2013 07:21 PM (jucos)

131 125 be careful for what you wish for.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:22 PM (HVff2)

132 @126

It was like hitting off a practice tee, wasn't it?

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 07:22 PM (6v9FO)

133 suit was brought against Obamacare because...

Holder: Motion for summary dismissal because plaintiffs lack standing.

Judge: Granted.  Next case.

That's about the way its gonna go down.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 18, 2013 07:24 PM (9MLX+)

134 Along the lines of income inequality and redistribution, I'd be fine with an estate tax that took every cent a deceased politician had, down to and including any assets held by his spouse, children, grand-children, brothers, sisters, and any relative that ever had a government job (even as dog catcher).

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 18, 2013 07:25 PM (XdnQT)

135 130. Do kids still play tball? Tball off an orange road cone in lincoln park Ahhhh, the memories

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 18, 2013 07:26 PM (wNsNP)

136 I told you people. Posted by: Ayn Rand at September 18, 2013 11:16 PM (bKA83)

Moi, aussi.

Posted by: Alexis-Charles-Henri Clérel at September 18, 2013 07:26 PM (d7tB2)

137 We have Wellers at work; never heard that we've had an issue with them. So I just bought a 40W Weller to use at home. Sadly, it worked precisely once. Turned it on the second time and ... nothing. So amazon will be sending me a replacement. Of course it's not in stock. And of course, the reason I needed it the second time was to repair a fuckup I made the first time. Gaaah.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2013 07:27 PM (els09)

138 Thanks much, Maet.  I was breaking out the parachute pants after reading the 89 story.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 18, 2013 07:29 PM (cj2js)

139

Soon we will all have standing to sue over Obama's Fascist Healthcare System.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 07:29 PM (0axsw)

140 Posted by: Purp at September 18, 2013 11:24 PM (9MLX+) I predicted that soon you won't even be able to get a hearing to determine if you have standing to find out if you have standing.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 18, 2013 07:29 PM (XdnQT)

141 137 Soon we will all have standing to sue over Obama's Fascist Healthcare System. Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 11:29 PM (0axsw) Nope - it's a tax!

Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at September 18, 2013 07:30 PM (Dsds2)

142 123 "Income is defined as market income (and excludes government transfers)"
Does that mean that when they calculate a families' income they don't include food stamps, rent subsidies, child care, cell phone, and medicaid?
Isn't the availability of all these freebies part of the reason why some people don't try very hard to get out of the underclass?
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2013 11:19 PM (mHUKK)


Yep. Which is why the poverty level percentage is meaningless - it counts people's incomes before they get any benefits, subsidies, or freebies. So statistically the poor will never become less poor no matter how much we give them.

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 18, 2013 07:30 PM (pAlYe)

143 Purp, I'm not so sure. As of October 1, I think anyone who is subject to it would have standing since that's when the law takes effect

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 18, 2013 07:31 PM (m242I)

144 Obama care is here to stay. Nothing will happen in court. Nothing will happen in congress. It's here. Now we have to deal with it best we can

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:31 PM (HVff2)

145 @135

Wellers are great but you can get just as good at a fraction of the price.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 07:31 PM (6v9FO)

146 110 95 - ...all the proposed governmental solutions are exactly the opposite of its cure.


Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 11:09 PM (T1005)
Obama has managed to set up a feedback loop in the economy where his policies cause the problems he claims they solve - so he can expand them and make the problems worse. Then he will propose expanding his fixes some more. It's how you make a Depression.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 18, 2013 11:15 PM (LlY+k)



*Ding, ding, ding* We have a winner. Yup.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 07:31 PM (T1005)

147 Insurance awards are not income. Don't know about the rest. Healthcare income is based on 1040. Are those things taxable?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 07:32 PM (0axsw)

148 117 The analog version of that, the WES51, is almost $100 less. FYI.>>

I just looked at a hobby who's tools cost less than $200 is cheap. And I know nothing but the guys I know who do have them. But I get that the company is paying for them so convenience is cheaper.

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 11:17 PM (XjG0F)



Shouldn't that be "the anal version"?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 07:32 PM (T1005)

149 Obamacare fully implemented will crash the economy.  I think we are stuck with it though. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 18, 2013 07:33 PM (jucos)

150 I predicted that soon you won't even be able to get a hearing to determine if you have standing to find out if you have standing.>>

Why is there no judgement for standing in frivolous lawsuits? That shit costs us billions every year.

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 07:33 PM (XjG0F)

151 Gotta rebuild a Carter Thermoquad tomorrow that has been cooking for 3 days. Should be fun. Goodnite, good people. Stay safe. Posted by: irongrampa -------------------------- You get a gold star if you know what IG is talking a bout.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 07:34 PM (aDwsi)

152 What sort of teeth are in the law? It is rumored to be toothless.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 07:34 PM (0axsw)

153 91 30 Anyone have any soldering iron recommendations? I'm in the market for a new one. Mostly semi-precision jobs, electronic components, but rarely any surface-mount stuff. Posted by: .87c at September 18, 2013 10:49 PM (qZPXs) - - - - - - - - - - Something with temperature control, not just 'adjustable', but real TEMPERATURE CONTROL. I use one of the old Wellers that uses changeable temperature set-point tips, where the different tips have different 'Curie points' to control temperature. Rugged as all get out now for +30 years ... The Wellers with the digital temp readout were okay, but, the tips weren't rugged enough for the way I 'tap' the tip to remove excess solder and they failed.

Posted by: _Jim at September 18, 2013 07:35 PM (t8kby)

154

As far as the 1%, 5 % 05 whatever. The myth on the left is that somehow that guy has my money or took it from me. No, that guy in most (not all) earned his money. And even if he inherited  it, who cares, it's not taking money out of my pocket. Like any of us would say, gee, thanks rich uncle for leaving me millions, but  nah.. I'm good with my 50K per year.  Most of them earned it though by working their ass off and risking it many times over. I am so tired of the evil boogeyman rich guy. Sure, many   are assholes. I know many lower and middle class  assholes too. I don't care if someone is rich though. Many of them are miserable too. Whatever I don't care. I have a lefty douchebag brother in law. He rails on it all the time. So I finally asked him one day. I said. O.K. Lefty  douchebag brother in law. You have more than 93% of the rest of the world. Literally. If you own a car you're in the top 5% in the word. Living in the US literally puts you in the top percentile of wealth in the world.  So why don't you owe those  people? Or why shouldn't they be entitled to what you have? He rambled incoherently and changed the subject.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 18, 2013 07:35 PM (bXdYS)

155 Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 11:34 PM (aDwsi)


All I know is it's a carb.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 18, 2013 07:35 PM (T7XIT)

156 Any constitutional scholars who can comment? Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone ---------------- I have ruled. Sit down, STFU.

Posted by: John Roberts at September 18, 2013 07:35 PM (aDwsi)

157

If we want to fix the problem the answer is really very simple.

Stop voting for Democrats.

If you want a more level playing field let people play the game.  Things even out.  If you want an unfair playing field mess around with it.  There is no way to stop the invisible hand.

 

Posted by: petunia at September 18, 2013 07:36 PM (DAcBA)

158 I also can't stand the illegals who think they are entitled to free stuff, driver's licenses & refuse to learn English! That makes me want to scream, they've been here for 20 years & can barely say Hi. Send them all back! It's cheaper than living on US taxpayers to spend the money once.

Posted by: CarolT at September 18, 2013 07:36 PM (z4WKX)

159 Is that something for a mopar?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:36 PM (HVff2)

160 CS gets a star.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 07:36 PM (aDwsi)

161 I've got an ancient Weller soldering gun with several exchangeable tips; it's probably 35 years old and still works fine.
 
If I were to ever buy another, it would be a gas torch version.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 07:36 PM (wNF3N)

162 Are they really gonna ask you how many people you boinked?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 07:37 PM (0axsw)

163 -
". it could be a surprisingly awesome role for him."

OR teh suck.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 07:37 PM (lAZep)

164 @151

Why would you tap when you could use a steel wool cup to remove excess solder?

Never tap your tip.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 07:37 PM (6v9FO)

165 different tips have different 'Curie points' to control temperature.>>

Do you use a Geiger counter to check if their right?

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 07:37 PM (XjG0F)

166 Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 11:36 PM (aDwsi)


**runs around the classroom sticking his tongue out at the dumb kids**

Posted by: Country Singer at September 18, 2013 07:38 PM (T7XIT)

167 A thermoquad is a plastic carburetor. The bowl/venturi assembly is made from Bakelite.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2013 07:38 PM (8Fl6F)

168 and that's why you all have iPhones and flat-screen TVs today, homies Part of many reasons to fear government-controlled health care. Without the “rich” willing to buy expensive treatments, the expensive treatments won’t be created, and so will never become less expensive.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 18, 2013 07:38 PM (CeNUw)

169 162 @151 Why would you tap when you could use a steel wool cup to remove excess solder? Never tap your tip. Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 11:37 PM (6v9FO) Yeah, that's what SHE said

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:39 PM (HVff2)

170

How to fix healthcare?

1.  Tort reform

2.  Allowing Ins Companies to sell across state lines

3.  Decoupling Health Ins from employment

4.  Making insurance high deductible/ catastrophic coverage

5.  Health savings accounts

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 18, 2013 07:40 PM (jucos)

171 Yes Boss Moss, they will. Waiting to hear if you get agree frivolous lawsuit coupon for claiming to be gay.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 18, 2013 07:40 PM (m242I)

172 155
If we want to fix the problem the answer is really very simple.
Stop voting for Democrats.
If you want a more level playing field let people play the game. Things even out. If you want an unfair playing field mess around with it. There is no way to stop the invisible hand.

Posted by: petunia at September 18, 2013 11:36 PM (DAcBA)



Alas, that won't do it -- it will, at best, pause the problem. If we actually wanted to fix it, we'd have to do something like a constitutional amendment to clarify the Commerce Clause -- and the RINOs we got in the GOP would certainly never do that.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 07:40 PM (T1005)

173 That's *a free* frivolous lawsuit card. Bloody iPhone.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 18, 2013 07:41 PM (m242I)

174 Always tin your tip.

Always clean your tip.

Never tap your tip.


And that's the name of that tune.



Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 07:41 PM (6v9FO)

175 So okay, I watched Event Horizon tonite on Netflix; it's the first sci-fi horror movie I've ever seen.
 
I don't like most horror movies, so there is your review.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2013 07:42 PM (wNF3N)

176 Heh. I should post a pic of my Weller WTCPN. It's at least 30 years old, maybe 35. Thousands of joints, still going strong

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 07:42 PM (aDwsi)

177 172 Just the tip.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 07:42 PM (0axsw)

178 168
How to fix healthcare?
1. Tort reform
2. Allowing Ins Companies to sell across state lines
3. Decoupling Health Ins from employment
4. Making insurance high deductible/ catastrophic coverage
5.Health savings accounts


I would like to purchase one subscription to your newsletter, and a gift subscription for a Mr. Boehner.

Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 07:42 PM (bKA83)

179 Evening all. The illegals have been unchained from the White House fence. Staying at the Pentagon City Ritz Carlton now. Jk. Maybe. Haven't heard shit about them since they chained themselves.

Posted by: Dude's toilet at September 18, 2013 07:42 PM (V/HqN)

180 Fudge. 'Dudes toilet' sock off.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 07:43 PM (V/HqN)

181 174 Thousands of joints, still going strong

Eh, Obama says the same thing.

Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 07:44 PM (bKA83)

182 Does anyone have a version of that graph that _does_ include government transfers?  Isn't that really the version that matters if we want to talk about how the wealth of the country is spread around which is what the leftist seem to want to talk about?

Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at September 18, 2013 07:44 PM (U0t2o)

183 Illegals believe they are entitled because we have members of both political parties telling them that they are.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 07:45 PM (6v9FO)

184 168 ideas plus the following 1. Term limits (amendment to constitution) 2. Balanced budget amendment 3. Line item veto Amendment) But all this would take a spine & testicles, not in my life time I'm afraid

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:45 PM (HVff2)

185 168
How to fix healthcare?
1. Tort reform
2. Allowing Ins Companies to sell across state lines
3. Decoupling Health Ins from employment
4. Making insurance high deductible/ catastrophic coverage
5.Health savings accounts

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 18, 2013 11:40 PM (jucos)


You missed one -- everyone pays the posted prices. The "secret price" that varies by insurance carrier with a rack rate that could fund the Apollo program is horseshit and hogwash on a stick.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 07:46 PM (T1005)

186 162 Never tap your tip.

Sounds like good advice...until one gets to the part where you want me to rub it on steel wool instead.

Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 07:46 PM (bKA83)

187 Didn't Boehner start off on his first day as Speaker having everyone reading parts of The Constitution out loud? That was in January 2011. I might be wrong, but he tried to start off as a Constitutionalist. WTFH to him?

Posted by: CarolT at September 18, 2013 07:46 PM (z4WKX)

188 185 Didn't Boehner start off on his first day as Speaker having everyone reading parts of The Constitution out loud? That was in January 2011. I might be wrong, but he tried to start off as a Constitutionalist. WTFH to him?

Posted by: CarolT at September 18, 2013 11:46 PM (z4WKX)



Must've been pretty bad.....he's still cryin' and whimperin' about it.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 07:47 PM (T1005)

189 Reading up on training for GoRuck and I chuckled. Just the Tip A: Keep the KBSÂ’s Russian style for today. If you canÂ’t do double unders, do one minute of jump rope. If you happen to have a heavy rope, do 40 revolutions with that. Just the tip!

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 07:48 PM (V/HqN)

190 183 You missed one -- everyone pays the posted prices. The "secret price" that varies by insurance carrier with a rack rate that could fund the Apollo program is horseshit and hogwash on a stick.

My understanding is that that crap comes straight from the Medicare laws. They insist on paying a massively discounted price, so people had to make up a massive list price. In times of not being insured, I have had to pay that actual list price. How does 2 grand for a CAT scan that the connected pay less than $400 for sound?

Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 07:48 PM (bKA83)

191 "How to fix healthcare?
1. Tort reform
2. Allowing Ins Companies to sell across state lines
3. Decoupling Health Ins from employment
4. Making insurance high deductible/ catastrophic coverage
5.Health savings accounts
"

Posted by: Truck Monkey

^THIS^

No matter how many boulders you wish to toss into the Free Market, it will flow.  Top-Down Government intrusion, however, includes its exclusion from "savings" and/or "marriage".

The More Local, the Better.  States have to decide in an actual Representative Republic.  Get It All Off of Me!

*swats and dusts shoulders and legs* 


Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 07:48 PM (lq3Ak)

192 Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 11:34 PM (aDwsi)

I'm an AFB man, myself. Two stars to you if you remember what guys used to say that stood for...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 18, 2013 07:48 PM (JNUY4)

193 Dear Alla, go back home. The Citizens of The United States.

Posted by: CarolT at September 18, 2013 07:48 PM (z4WKX)

194 I would say fuck Boner, but that is too good for him.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:48 PM (HVff2)

195 The Gen Y kids that are standing guard tonight are okay for me. Screw those ones that are always going to be setting the trends, dragging their feet, bitching and complaining, but God bless those ones hustling across the deck, or the battle field, or across  the fucking mess hall to clean up a table where someone just puked. God bless them.  It is not going to be their fault, the vast majority of them, as usual, that causes our nation to collapse in upon itself. Check that beam in your eye.

Posted by: and irresolute at September 18, 2013 07:50 PM (RqHWH)

196 If you negotiate a cash price up front with your Dr. for services rendered it would amount to not much more than your deductible.  Given a health savings account it would be about the same.  Shouldn't health insurance be more like auto insurance or homeowners insurance?  I don't put in a claim on my auto insurance if I need work on my car.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 18, 2013 07:50 PM (jucos)

197 Never Sparingly use a wet sponge to clean your tips.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 11:05 PM (6v9FO)

FIFY

(and using anything abrasive to clean a tip will also cause problems)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 07:50 PM (lAZep)

198
1. Term limits (amendment to constitution)
2. Balanced budget amendment
3. Line item veto Amendment)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 11:45 PM (HVff2)

That would require those in power willfully giving up a lot of that power.
Seems highly unlikely.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 18, 2013 07:50 PM (CWLFZ)

199 But all this would take a spine & testicles, not in my life time I'm afraid See link in nick for photo of Bloom County Republicans.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 18, 2013 07:51 PM (CeNUw)

200 188 183
You missed one -- everyone pays the posted
prices. The "secret price" that varies by insurance carrier with a rack
rate that could fund the Apollo program is horseshit and hogwash on a
stick.


My understanding is that that crap comes straight from the Medicare laws. They insist on paying a massively discounted price, so people had to make up a massive list price. In times of not being insured, I have had to pay that actual list price. How does 2 grand for a CAT scan that the connected pay less than $400 for sound?

Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 11:48 PM (bKA83)



It sounds like a reason to change the system.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 07:52 PM (T1005)

201 Also an ala carte health plan would work. But you have state commissioners making all these different coverages mandatory. A basic plan without frills would be low cost

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:52 PM (HVff2)

202 I'm an AFB man, myself. Two stars to you if you remember what guys used to say that stood for... Posted by: Stringer Davis --------------------- I'm thinking that it is something vulgar..., but I do not know. I'm a Quadrajet guy myself

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 07:52 PM (aDwsi)

203 I'm an AFB man,>>

A Fucking Big Carter.

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 07:52 PM (XjG0F)

204 I'm Smarter Than All Of You.  I've Post-Dated Checks, By Law, Through 2020.  You can't de-fund them.  By This Law.

-Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Malignant Traitor.

...but we don't have to make the deposit"

Posted by: Congress at September 18, 2013 07:54 PM (lq3Ak)

205 201 huh?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:54 PM (HVff2)

206 196
1. Term limits (amendment to constitution)

2. Balanced budget amendment

3. Line item veto Amendment)


Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 11:45 PM (HVff2)

That would require those in power willfully giving up a lot of that power.
Seems highly unlikely.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 18, 2013 11:50 PM (CWLFZ)


Yeah, those sorts of retrenchments have historically been associated with large numbers of streetlamps and a run on hemp at hardware stores....but they have occasionally happened.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 07:55 PM (T1005)

207 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie_temperature Curie points, several diff 'metal' combos: MnSb . . . . . . . 587 MnBi . . . . . . . 630 CuOFe2O3 . . . 728 NiOFe2O3 . . . . 858 Kinda corresponds to the 'tip' temps offered by this Weller ...

Posted by: _Jim at September 18, 2013 07:55 PM (t8kby)

208 @201 Yep, Awful Fuckin Big. As funny now as it was in 1962.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 18, 2013 07:55 PM (JNUY4)

209

Suppose you don't pay Obamacare, or the fines?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 07:56 PM (0axsw)

210 My local hardware is on a Main Street with plenty of hemp & nearby street lamps.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 07:56 PM (HVff2)

211 201 huh?>>

Should have put Carter in parentheses.

http://www.carburetorsandmore.com/afbcarter.htm

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 07:57 PM (XjG0F)

212 193 The Gen Y kids that are standing guard tonight are okayfor me. Screw those ones that are always going to be setting the trends, dragging their feet, bitching and complaining, but God bless those oneshustling across the deck, or the battle field, or across the fucking mess hall to clean up a table where someone just puked. God bless them. It is not going to be their fault, the vast majority of them, as usual, that causes our nation to collapse in upon itself. Check that beam in your eye.

Posted by: and irresolute at September 18, 2013 11:50 PM (RqHWH)



There are some where the nonstop "Special Snowflake" training didn't take. God bless 'em.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 07:57 PM (T1005)

213 Mines a Weller also. Got it when the company closed. Snatched that puppy right up.

Weighted base, temperature control and easily changed out tips.

I have a $10 job for use outdoors on equipment or a gas pencil torch (no good if it's windy).

Impromptu poll:

How many 'rons or 'ronettes can solder? Brase? Stick Weld? Mig/Tig?


Fusing metals together babeeee.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 07:57 PM (lAZep)

214 @47 falling skies is on amazon instant. It's free if you are a prime member, and you get free shipping on amazon.

Posted by: flounder at September 18, 2013 07:57 PM (Kkt/i)

215 Illegals believe they are entitled because we have members of both political parties telling them that they are. Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 11:45 PM (6v9FO) Because people are catastrophically greedy and stupid! I'm so happy about that, too.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 07:58 PM (qyfb5)

216 http://tinyurl.com/ljbdp9m

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 07:58 PM (0axsw)

217 203 201 huh? Posted by: Misanthropic ----------------- Carter AFB carb. I think it actually stood for Aluminum Four Barrel Carb...., but maybe not.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 07:58 PM (aDwsi)

218 How does 2 grand for a CAT scan that the connected pay less than $400 for sound? Posted by: Splunge at September 18, 2013 11:48 PM (bKA83) Sounds relatively cheap. Compared to the way things are going.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 07:59 PM (qyfb5)

219 What's the term for an unenforceable mandate?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 07:59 PM (0axsw)

220 208 My local hardware is on a Main Street with plenty of hemp & nearby street lamps.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 11:56 PM (HVff2)



Some day, you might walk in there and find all the shelves bare....and, a couple of days later, you might hear amazing, commonsense, effective solutions coming from your government....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:00 PM (T1005)

221 207
Suppose you don'tpay Obamacare, or the fines?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 11:56 PM (0axsw)


If you're a Dem or squishy R, nothing. If you're conservative or libertarian, fines and/or prison.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 18, 2013 08:00 PM (LlY+k)

222 Thanks Mr. Hammer you are a treasure trove.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 08:00 PM (HVff2)

223 Bitter - Pisses me off that every time I want something welded, I have to take it to a shop. I've taken a shot at brazing using Mapp gas, but no luck.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:00 PM (aDwsi)

224 Thanks Mr. Hammer you are a treasure trove. Posted by: Misanthropic --------- Yeah. That's why I'm such a success. /SARC

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:01 PM (aDwsi)

225 Well, we started with http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=343505#c21179102 363 Great news for the Midwest: http://tinyurl.com/kdm5mv7 Posted by: RS Which article led us to Google-map Hawaii, showing that trail of hotspot residue. Then we were talking about the Marianas Trench, caused by the subduction of the Pacific plate under the Asian plate, and how I read (IIRC) that everything along the edge of the trench could just fall in there any time. Which led us to search for the classic xkcd "Lakes and Oceans." http://xkcd.com/1040/ But on the same search results page, we saw What if you exploded a nuclear bomb (say, the Tsar Bomba) at the bottom of the Marianas Trench? http://what-if.xkcd.com/15/ Spoiler: not much... until you increase the explosion by several orders of mag-a-na-tood. That's what I brought for alla you'n's today. Can I have this last chocolate chip cookie on the buffet? Did that chocolate chip just move?

Posted by: mindful webworker - following the web's threads at September 18, 2013 08:02 PM (U13jb)

226 "That would require those in power willfully giving up a lot of that power.
Seems highly unlikely.
"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

...But State Legislatures can hold Constitutional Conventions, as well.  The Power of the States had always been foremost amongst the Founding Fathers.

Mark Levin's ideas, (as I've only heard -of late), are dynamically powerful.

The Power should have always been at Individual State-level.  That's A Constitutional-Core Freedom.

This Top-Down Bullshit should have never been.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 08:02 PM (lq3Ak)

227 Suppose you don'tpay Obamacare, or the fines? Posted by: Boss Moss former --------------- Depends. Are you union, a member of Congress, or a Supreme Court Justice?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:02 PM (aDwsi)

228 I will repeat this just once.

New soldering iron.

Turn it on to highest setting.

Remove from holder

Touch solder to tip after 2-4 minutes solder should flow onto tip.

Solder should boil and smoke as flux in solder evaporates.

Dip tip into steel wool rapidly. This will remove excess solder and leave you with a clean tinned tip.

Repeat two more times.

Turn iron off if you do not plan to use it and place in holder.

Repeat above steps while you are using your iron.

Never use wet sponge. All you do is cool your tip down and increase blackening and charing of tip.

A tip will last you a lifetime if above steps are followed.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 08:02 PM (6v9FO)

229 I give you the venerable WTCPN Weller, "One Rugged Iron!" http://tinyurl.com/l5a3daq After soldering-up a half-dozen "ground-donuts" on copper-jacketed 1 5/8" Heliax (used in a 1/4 WL 6 Meter band duplexer stub and a helluva a heat 'load') I have found the the internal (replaceable) fuse gets 'stressed' and may fail with time is all ...

Posted by: _Jim at September 18, 2013 08:03 PM (t8kby)

230 C'mon Mike I think that you are

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 08:03 PM (HVff2)

231 Well it goes against his usual casting which means it could be a surprisingly awesome role for him.

I dunno, Sideshow Bob Terwilliger was pretty badass

Bryan Cranston plays the uber badass Walter White, before that he was best known as Hal on Malcolm in the Middle and dentist Tim Whatley on Seinfeld

Talk about going against type

Posted by: kbdabear at September 18, 2013 08:03 PM (/9IC1)

232 Invest in a furry costume and go to Canada for healthcare. $3500 for a permanent pacemaker.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 08:04 PM (RK83g)

233 Impromptu poll:

How many 'rons or 'ronettes can solder? Brase? Stick Weld? Mig/Tig?


Fusing metals together babeeee.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 11:57 PM (lAZep)

Solder? Check. Braze? Check. Stick weld? Check, but I don't claim to be expert at it. Oxy-acetylene weld? Check. Mig? Check. Tig? Just did my first real Tig welds last week, fixing broken joints in a thin steel filing cabinet. Still very much on the steep end of the learning curve with that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2013 08:04 PM (8Fl6F)

234 Posted by: Slapweasel at September 19, 2013 12:02 AM (lq3Ak But, the state senators and assembly men are just douchenozzles junior compared to the ones in DC. Sounds good to do the Levin things. But it won't happen in my life time either

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 08:06 PM (HVff2)

235 219 207

Suppose you don'tpay Obamacare, or the fines?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 11:56 PM (0axsw)

If you're a Dem or squishy R, nothing. If you're conservative or libertarian, fines and/or prison.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 19, 2013 12:00 AM (LlY+k)



There's no provision for fines and/or prison in the law. However, there's also nothing that says you can renew your driver's license by mail, view internet porn without it going public, have licenses and permits denied or just get lost.... It's all pretty much laid out in Cass Sunstein's book, "Nudge" -- http://tinyurl.com/m8ylewm.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:06 PM (T1005)

236 How many 'rons or 'ronettes can solder? Brase? Stick Weld? Mig/Tig?>>

I have none of those skills but I do get to judge other people that do. AWS CWI.

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 08:06 PM (XjG0F)

237 Has Anna Puma been in here lately? Jan D'oh?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:07 PM (aDwsi)

238 231 Impromptu poll: How many 'rons or 'ronettes can solder? Brase? Stick Weld? Mig/Tig? Fusing metals together babeeee. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 11:57 PM (lAZep) How many morons did it in high school. Along with working the dangerous bandsaw. Do they even do 'shop' anymore?

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 08:08 PM (RK83g)

239 Anna is around occasionally. Jane I saw, oh, last week? May have been around this one.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 08:08 PM (qyfb5)

240 Not sure Mr. Hammer. My 1st ONT since last Thursday.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 08:09 PM (HVff2)

241 Carter AFB carb. I think it actually stood for Aluminum Four Barrel Carb...., but maybe not.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 11:58 PM (aDwsi)

I think, officially, it was Aluminum Four Bore. But I think that's a distinction without a difference.



Now, what was the preceding carb model, and what did its letter designation represent?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2013 08:09 PM (8Fl6F)

242 235 Has Anna Puma been in here lately? Jan D'oh? Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 19, 2013 12:07 AM (aDwsi) Infrequently. Ninja posts.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 08:10 PM (RK83g)

243 What the American public needs to do is stop filing their 1040's.

The trouble is, we'd all have to do it or it wouldn't work. (strength in numbers).

I'm not going to play the game with them, let them levy a fine. They say they won't enforce it and I don't get a "refund". (it's not a refund if it's YOUR money).

Make your exemptions equal what you would normally pay in  tax on your W-4 (that's the one where your employer asks how many exemptions to take for your pay).

If you're self employed only pay your quarterly payments the size of your actual income. (c'mon you know you can make it balance)

OR make no quarterly payments at all. As long as the difference isn't over a certain amount (I forget the amount) when filing time happens they won't fine you for not making the quarterly payments.

Best yet would be to just stop playing their game.

It's rigged anyway.

I think with so many people working at the edge of insolvency and more on the way that many will begin to think of just saying NO.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 08:10 PM (lAZep)

244 Well horde. Time to head off. Be well all.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 18, 2013 08:10 PM (HVff2)

245
There are some where the nonstop "Special Snowflake" training didn't take. God bless 'em.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 11:57 PM (T1005)

-----


All it takes is someone with enough awareness to see that Billy, the kid that still eats paste, is even getting unwarranted praise, along with everyone else.  If everyone is getting praise, the currency is getting devalued.  The smart kids will be the ones that pick up on that.  If they are the only ones that pick up on that, they'll have a huge advantage when the poo really hits the wall.  The dumb ones will think they are still special when all evidence proves otherwise.  

Then, the gap between the 1% and the rest will only get wider, and this will be evidence that we need more government intervention, and the dumb ones will vote for it in masses.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 18, 2013 08:11 PM (UvR6d)

246 Welcome back to this week's countdown.

Coming in at number four this week is a "band that should have never been."  These lads took out ads and their perseverance paid off.  Techno-Pop lives at this week's #1 Song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijAYN9zVnwg

Nineteen-Eighty-Nine. 

Posted by: Casey Kasem at September 18, 2013 08:11 PM (lq3Ak)

247 ... A tip will last you a lifetime if above steps are followed. Posted by: Kreplach at September 19, 2013 12:02 AM (6v9FO) - - - - - - - - - - - I think they will if the 'iron' is treated like a "hangar queen" and never actually used. Unfortunately, I've gone through just a few tips in +35 yrs ... Once the iron plating (on some tips) wears through it is downhill PDF (pretty darn fast) ... " Because of this, manufacturers of soldering iron tips do not generally warrant plating life. " From "Extending Soldering Iron Tip Life" (pdf file): http://tinyurl.com/3oklxmo

Posted by: _Jim at September 18, 2013 08:11 PM (t8kby)

248 I solder occasionally, did brazing, arc welded and metal cutting with oxy-acetalyne. Know how Mig/Tig work but haven't used them. Know how friction and pressure welding work but haven't done that either.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 08:12 PM (qyfb5)

249 When I was about 10, I badgered my dad about a soldering gun for Christmas. I got it..., a Wen. Still have it. I started soldering up LOTS of stuff for the fun of it. When the newspapers were dropped off at the corner for the delivery boy (remember those?), the galvanized wire that the papers were bound with took solder like a dream. I still have a bunch of wire 'constructs' that I did as a kid.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:12 PM (aDwsi)

250 How many morons did it in high school. Along with working the dangerous bandsaw. >>

I had shop in high school with the bandsaw but no welding. I did take some welding classes and can stick two pieces of metal together but will not call it a weld since I know what a real one looks like. Welding is an art and either takes a natural talent or practice to be truly good at.

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 08:13 PM (XjG0F)

251 @47 falling skies is on amazon instant. It's free if you are a prime member, and you get free shipping on amazon.

You just told me that it wasn't worth seeing twice.

Thank you for saving me $45.

Posted by: Alexis-Charles-Henri Clérel at September 18, 2013 08:14 PM (d7tB2)

252 I believe that the biggest killer of tips is idle heat. Left alone at operating temperature for a long time, the tinning oxidizes, and in turn, the tip.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:15 PM (aDwsi)

253 I think, officially, it was Aluminum Four Bore. But I think that's a distinction without a difference. Now, what was the preceding carb model, and what did its letter designation represent? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2013 12:09 AM (8Fl6F) - - - - - - - - - - - - Heh. Run WOT all the time and 'squirt' your fuel in some number of degrees before TDC under high pressure ... run a turbo if it suits ... +500,000 mile engine life ...

Posted by: _Jim at September 18, 2013 08:15 PM (t8kby)

254 Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity

...Yeah.  You should just quit.  I don't approve of your methodology, but you'll be joining the rest of the folks who only care about lawns and "other idiots".

Posted by: Casey Kasem at September 18, 2013 08:15 PM (lq3Ak)

Posted by: le clochard de la toilette à Boulder at September 18, 2013 08:15 PM (d7tB2)

256 ...damn sock

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 08:15 PM (lq3Ak)

257 @#$%.

Posted by: le clochard de la toilette à Boulder at September 18, 2013 08:16 PM (d7tB2)

258 I had shop in high school with the bandsaw but no welding. I did take some welding classes and can stick two pieces of metal together but will not call it a weld since I know what a real one looks like. Welding is an art and either takes a natural talent or practice to be truly good at. Posted by: The Hickster at September 19, 2013 12:13 AM (XjG0F) True. The welding I did in high school I think my nephew could seperate the pieces.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 08:16 PM (RK83g)

259 My grandfather taught me how to solder -- and what good and bad solder looked like. I haven't done it enough to keep in practice, but it's come in handy at times.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:16 PM (T1005)

260 As a recovering community journalist who had finally arrived home to find wife and children asleep and no dinner on the stove because we're to broke, I'd just like to say to you all, and I hope the host will understand, FUUUUUUUUUUCK newspapers, and especially the ridiculous Podunk company for which I work. Life. Wasted. (Guess I feel a little better now) Sincerely, a recovering journalist

Posted by: Mr. Bitterness at September 18, 2013 08:17 PM (i+osE)

261 Anyway, I'd like to watch some new SF / historical-fiction / fantasy, but I want moar Firefly and less sneaky Cathedral propaganda. "Pillars of the Earth" made me want to burn shit down.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 18, 2013 08:17 PM (d7tB2)

262 Now, what was the preceding carb model, and what did its letter designation represent? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon -------------- Carter four barrel before the AFB? Heh. I'm clueless

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:18 PM (aDwsi)

263 A tip will last you a lifetime if above steps are followed.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 19, 2013 12:02 AM (6v9FO)




I had the pleasure of laying my hand down on the tip of a soldering iron once.  Once.  Fuckin' OUCH!!!

Posted by: NC Ref at September 18, 2013 08:19 PM (Myqtp)

264 OK, I wasn't one of the cool kids -- what's the story with the "dangerous bandsaw" thing? All power tools are dangerous to some extent -- you can give yourself mortal wounds with a Dremel if you're really trying -- but bandsaws wouldn't be in my top 10, by any means.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:19 PM (T1005)

265 Mr. Bitterness - Ugh. Geeze, man. Wish we could share a drink. *shoves a Scotch through the USB port*

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:20 PM (aDwsi)

266

"I had the pleasure of laying my hand down on the tip "

 

 

heheh eh heheh eh heheh

Posted by: beavis at September 18, 2013 08:21 PM (9gNQd)

267 Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 19, 2013 12:00 AM (aDwsi)

I've heard some say they can't braze with MAPP as it's too cold, others say it can be done.

I don't know as I use acetylene.

And it depends on the metals, how clean they are and the flux you use.

Oh and Kreplach? Thanks for the advice but I'll keep doing it the way I have for 50+ years. The steel wool is good for cold cleaning and after the job while hot but during a job of unsoldering and resoldering, sometimes you need a quick wipe to clear the tip and the steel wool won't do it (in my experience). Either that or the way my old man taught me; flipping the iron at the floor. (which has a load of other consequences.)

Now if you're talking fine, close pcb soldering/repair then you should be working with as low a heat as possible anyway and a little cooling won't hurt the tip all that much. Of course it will lower the temperature but the sponge shouldn't be soaking wet and you shouldn't drag the tip back and forth enough to cool it down enough to matter.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 08:21 PM (lAZep)

268 @245

The lifetime remark is for the average person who does not solder every day.

That being said, as video engineer who has conservatively soldered about 5  million connections over a 25 year period, you should not go through more than a tip a year, if that, following proper procedures.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 08:21 PM (6v9FO)

269 261 A tip will last you a lifetime if above steps are followed.


Posted by: Kreplach at September 19, 2013 12:02 AM (6v9FO)




I had the pleasure of laying my hand down on the tip of a soldering iron once. Once. Fuckin' OUCH!!!

Posted by: NC Ref at September 19, 2013 12:19 AM (Myqtp)



I tried to pick one up like a pencil -- not the tip, but the thing the tip attaches into on the wrong side of the hand guard. One reason I didn't deal with 'em frequently.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:22 PM (T1005)

270 No Cass, humans respond to threat that are demonstrably real. If a group of scientists insisted that specimens of Tyrannosaurus Rex were going to start spontaneously appearing in population centers and eating people by the dozen, we'd need some convincing evidence. Like a living T. Rex. Lacking that, all of the hand waving and models that fail in their predictions of T.Rex outbreaks can be safely ignored  or better, mocked.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 08:23 PM (kcfmt)

271 I had the pleasure of laying my hand down on the tip of a soldering iron once. Once. Fuckin' OUCH!!! Posted by: NC Ref ----------- Working quickly on a large number of components, I could unconsciously shove my iron back into the holder while stuffing more components. Then one morning, I shoved it into my coffee cup.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:23 PM (aDwsi)

272 I soldered a Christmas light timer once.  I also soldered a copper pipe, because plumbing.

One involved a plug-in iron and the other involved a Benzene Torch.

Were there a back-loading instrument, so as to allow glue-gun-type control? 

...I'd purchase that implement.  I'd solder the shit out of some shit.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 08:24 PM (lq3Ak)

273 269 I had the pleasure of laying my hand down on the tip of a soldering iron once. Once. Fuckin' OUCH!!!

Posted by: NC Ref
-----------

Working quickly on a large number of components, I could unconsciously shove my iron back into the holder while stuffing more components. Then one morning, I shoved it into my coffee cup.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 19, 2013 12:23 AM (aDwsi)



But did you drink the reheated coffee afterwards?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:24 PM (T1005)

274 I hate everything.  Everything.

Posted by: Null at September 18, 2013 08:26 PM (xjpRj)

275 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: The Guy Who Wants To Know Where All Da White Wimmen At at September 18, 2013 08:26 PM (dZ0Re)

276 But did you drink the reheated coffee afterwards? Posted by: cthulhu -------------------- For others, coffee is merely a hot beverage, for me it is life-support. BTW, who do you think came up with the term 'leaded' for regular coffee? Yup..., it was me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:27 PM (aDwsi)

277 WCFB. White Cast Four Bore. Which was made of pot metal, like most carbs before and since, with a cast iron throttle plate. That sucker was heavy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2013 08:27 PM (8Fl6F)

278 "I hate everything. Everything."
Posted by: Null

You're just being a dick.

Posted by: Ice Cream at September 18, 2013 08:28 PM (lq3Ak)

279 Null - Just for you. The Kingston Trio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp6dsKleGpU

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:28 PM (aDwsi)

280 272 I hate everything. Everything.

Posted by: Null at September 19, 2013 12:26 AM (xjpRj)



Even your cat?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:29 PM (T1005)

281 Posted by: Mr. Bitterness at September 19, 2013 12:17 AM (i+osE Trying to shove a cream cheese bacon bagel through the intertubes for you but having problems.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 08:29 PM (RK83g)

282 WCFB. White Cast Four Bore. Which was made of pot metal, like most carbs before and since, with a cast iron throttle plate. That sucker was heavy. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ----------------------- Any idea what companies/engines used 'em?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:30 PM (aDwsi)

283 Dang Verizon bill is late.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 08:31 PM (0axsw)

284 I had the pleasure of laying my hand down on the tip Fell for the just the tip thing did ya?! : D

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 18, 2013 08:31 PM (aewcS)

285 277 Null - Just for you. The Kingston Trio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp6dsKleGpU

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 19, 2013 12:28 AM (aDwsi)



I actually sang that for Rum (with whistles) while driving her around San Francisco one time. She couldn't get out of the car without wiping out in the street. I don't know if she's forgiven me yet.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:32 PM (T1005)

286 I could unconsciously shove my iron back into the holder while stuffing more components. Then one morning, I shoved it into my coffee cup. = O

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 18, 2013 08:33 PM (aewcS)

287 Hey, where all da white wimmen at? Posted by: The Guy Who Wants To Know Where All Da White Wimmen At at September 19, 2013 12:26 AM (dZ0Re) If I knew that I wouldn't be here.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 08:33 PM (qyfb5)

288 Any idea what companies/engines used 'em?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 19, 2013 12:30 AM (aDwsi)

Buick, Cadillac, Chevy, and Studebaker, and others, I'm sure.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2013 08:34 PM (8Fl6F)

289 As a lab assistant, I was directing some freshman chemistry students in the art of bending glass tubing. A girl came up to me held up her piece of bent tubing (which was buckled) , and asked 'Is this all right?'. 'No', says I, 'It should be smoother through here', as I traced my finger over the curve..., and heard the sizzle of frying flesh.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:35 PM (aDwsi)

290 OK, I wasn't one of the cool kids -- what's the story with the "dangerous bandsaw" thing?

I assume it's that varying amounts of lateral pressure applied to the stock yields surprising results, depending on that particular blade's metallurgy.

Posted by: adams woodrow porn at September 18, 2013 08:35 PM (gQKHE)

291 It's good skill to have if your short on money to pay a professional and sometimes you can't even get anyone to do a repair on some items.

I just repaired a $50 appliance with 7 bucks of diodes.

Motor is dc with bridge rectifier soldered on the back to make ac into dc.

One of the diodes blew (they were sized too small $$$$) so instant short and motor no worky and breaker trips.

Bought some Radio Shuck™ diodes rated at 3A instead of the 1A's installed.

Soldered them in and away it went.

cha ching. Just saved $50 replacement cost.

Thank you Thank you. No applause please. Just send money.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 08:35 PM (lAZep)

292 That being said, as video engineer who has conservatively soldered about 5 million connections over a 25 year period, you should not go through more than a tip a year, if that, following proper procedures. Posted by: Kreplach at September 19, 2013 12:21 AM (6v9FO) - - - - - - - - - - - - - Adult here (as well as an RF engineer) ... Hmmm ... where was the actual number of 'failed tips' ever listed? I don't think an actual figure was ever specified ... I have actually gotten over a decade from the last set of tips (various sizes and temps) SO there is no one single 'tip' that has worn out. The claim was: "A tip will last you a lifetime". But, when actually used (caveat: more than just 'occasionally'), they don't. In the "RTFM" dept (from previous cite above): "Wear/Abrasion Failures Plating failure due to wear is the only unpreventable failure mode experienced by all soldering iron tips. In a sense, plating wear is the "proper" mode of failure for a tip. The other failure modes discussed are preventable with care. Normal wear is caused by the abrading away of the iron plating as the tip comes into contact with solder joints. A worn tip will typically show a hole on its working surface." - - - - - - - Confirms what I've seen with iron-plated tips on the Weller given enough use.

Posted by: _Jim at September 18, 2013 08:36 PM (t8kby)

293 Thinking back on it..., perhaps I should not be allowed around hot objects.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:36 PM (aDwsi)

294 95 The problem with the current income inequality is that it doesn't arise from the productivity of the 1%, nor increasing the size of the pie. It comes, in the main, from regulatory capture -- and all the proposed governmental solutions are exactly the opposite of its cure.

THIS! But try to explain it to a LIB or LIV and you get that deer in the headlights look or the word GREED spittled back at you.

Posted by: bill-o at September 18, 2013 08:37 PM (AWwDY)

295 Welcome back to 1989...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ

Posted by: Casey Kasem's World News at September 18, 2013 08:37 PM (lq3Ak)

296 Is there a way to solder electronic stuff without frying the circuit?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 08:37 PM (0axsw)

297 Thinking back on it..., perhaps I should not be allowed around hot objects. By which you mean the freshman babe or the glass tubing?

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2013 08:39 PM (els09)

298 Is there a way to solder electronic stuff without frying the circuit? Posted by: Boss Moss --------------- Sure..., I mean, that's how it was assembled in the first place.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:39 PM (aDwsi)

299 'No', says I, 'It should be smoother through here', as I traced my finger over the curve..., and heard the sizzle of frying flesh.>>

I will laugh at you now since I have done the same kinds of things. Cutting metal with a sawzall we all know produces heat. But my brain says "it's not red go ahead"

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 08:39 PM (XjG0F)

300 282 I had the pleasure of laying my hand down on the tip

Fell for the just the tip thing did ya?! : D

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 19, 2013 12:31 AM (aewcS)



It seems like "just the tip" has been a joke since grade school, but I recently learned that "point of inevitable ejaculation" is actually a medically-recognized thing.



It's even cited in unintentionally humorous articles like this one -- http://tinyurl.com/n3xtuv4 -- which contains the gem: "At times, a man may report distress because he is unable to prevent ejaculation for 20 or 30 minutes. In this instance, the diagnosis of PE is not warranted even if the individual reports high levels of distress."

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:39 PM (T1005)

301 Regarding 'dangerous bandsaw' I just mentioned it 'cause I don't thunk the special snowflakes have ever used one.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 08:40 PM (RK83g)

302 I've repaired motherboards, some small electronics, automotive ECUs... mostly bad capacitors, which is easy. And if you're going to be using the bandsaw, I'll be in the car.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 08:40 PM (qyfb5)

303 By which you mean the freshman babe or the glass tubing? Posted by: Waterhouse ----------------------- The tube experience was less painful than some of the babe experiences. My youth! My youth!....., I've lost my youth!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:40 PM (aDwsi)

304 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IfRI6VRBW0

Posted by: 1989 Loma Prieta at September 18, 2013 08:41 PM (lq3Ak)

305 If a group of scientists insisted that specimens of Tyrannosaurus Rex were going to start spontaneously appearing in population centers and eating people by the dozen, we'd need some convincing evidence. Like a living T. Rex.

The Boulder Valley flood analogy would be a prediction that T Rex were about to spawn and eat people, and instead we got an invasion of sabretooth cats and cave bears.

Yes, we got our douching from a spell of late-summer *cold* weather (on top of a wave of humid air).

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 18, 2013 08:41 PM (d7tB2)

306 291 Thinking back on it..., perhaps I should not be allowed around hot objects. You guys are killing me with the double entendres. Or maybe it's just the crown royal I downed.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 18, 2013 08:43 PM (aewcS)

307 I will laugh at you now since I have done the same kinds of things. Cutting metal with a sawzall we all know produces heat. But my brain says "it's not red go ahead"

Posted by: The Hickster at September 19, 2013 12:39 AM (XjG0F)

I have two fragments of 3" high-speed abrasive cutoff wheels stuck in the gyprock ceiling of my garage. Stuck in, as in "deeply embedded". I leave them there as a personal reminder to wear safety glasses when using that class of power tool.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2013 08:43 PM (8Fl6F)

308 I shouldn't laugh, as once in Scouts, noticing that my aluminum frying pan was actually melting over the campfire, I thought "hey, that ain't right" and went to grab it by its one-piece handle ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2013 08:43 PM (els09)

309

 Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 19, 2013 12:21 AM

At the place I used to work at a guy was using a rose bud tip to heat up an I beam to put camber in it. Ran out of gas and changed tanks. Got mapp gas instead of the other. Melted the rose bud.

Posted by: harleycowboy at September 18, 2013 08:43 PM (+9AX9)

310

Catastrophic coverage is only useful if you have actual assets to protect.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 08:43 PM (0axsw)

311 I once re-soldered an electrical connection on a boat using a pair of pliers, a nail, and a Zippo lighter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:44 PM (aDwsi)

312 Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 19, 2013 12:37 AM (0axsw)

Sure. First make sure the power is OFF. (teehee)

Then use a very low heat iron. (some components may not desolder as they used a higher when the board was dipped.)

Get a solder sucker to remove any solder as it melts to take it off the board.

Most pcb's these days use surface mount components so it will be tricky. If it's an older board and the part has wires, it will be easier.

Heat will kill the new component so when replacing use as little solder iron contact as possible.

After soldering in place the new component double check for solder making contact with other solder runs or that other nearby components aren't loose from the heat.

Then smoke test to see if it works.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 08:44 PM (lAZep)

313

 The Hickster at September 19, 2013 12:39 AM

It doesn't take long to look at a hot one. We've all done it.

Posted by: harleycowboy at September 18, 2013 08:45 PM (+9AX9)

314 Today we saw the flawless launch of Orbital Sciences Corporation's Antares rocket carrying the Cygnus cargo ship on its first flight to the International Space Station. http://tinyurl.com/ldaq5dx Cygnus will spend the next few days making maneuvers in order to demonstrate to NASA that it is under control and is safe to approach the ISS. If all goes well, it will berth to the station early Sunday morning. Antares/Cygnus was launched from Wallops Island, VA. Just a week and a half ago, Wallops was also the scene of the launch of the Minotaur V/LADEE moon orbiter, which was widely observed on the east coast. Wallops Island was established as a missile test facility in 1945, five years before Cape Canaveral. For most of that time it has been a test site and has also launched suborbital rockets to carry out scientific measurements of the upper atmosphere. In the last 12 days it's seen the launch of a probe to the Moon and a cargo resupply mission to the ISS, both of which are unprecedented from that location. After all these years, Wallops Island is starting to become an important spaceport. I find that very exciting.

Posted by: rickl at September 18, 2013 08:45 PM (sdi6R)

315 I just repaired a $50 appliance with 7 bucks of diodes. Motor is dc with bridge rectifier soldered on the back to make ac into dc. - - - - - - - Hedge trimmer with a PM motor? The usual line-powered electric lawnmowers need something like 30 A RMS diodes ... experienced 'load dump' awhile back cutting wet grass and blew the house AC panel breaker ... normally releasing the safety handle 'shorts' the motor leads for dynamic braking, but when she quits mowing heavy wet grass and the breaker in the house goes instead, so did the OEM bridge rect in the mower ...

Posted by: _Jim at September 18, 2013 08:46 PM (t8kby)

316 I leave them there as a personal reminder to wear safety glasses when using that class of power tool.>>

My Grandfather (who was missing 2 fingers) told me early on. Once you think you completely control a power tool is the time it will remind you that you don't (paraphrasing don't remember the exact words but that's what I took). Which helped me keep all mine.

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 08:47 PM (XjG0F)

317 Today we saw the flawless launch of Orbital Sciences Corporation's Antares rocket carrying the Cygnus cargo ship on its first flight to the International Space Station. Did you watch the launch? Did the onboard video last longer than it's normally done on other launches, or was it just my imagination? Nor sure why I was so impressed by it.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2013 08:48 PM (els09)

318 Had an altercation with a 1x6 board today while helping to remodel a house...I ended up with a pretty good gash in the forehead, but the board lost in the end. Fucking board.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2013 08:49 PM (QMWjL)

319 "Not sure"

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2013 08:49 PM (els09)

320 @290

General doucheness on my part inferred a shelf life in what you were saying.

Regardless of what the literature says, with regards to what I do, I can get roughly 2 years out of a tip following my protocols.

1000's of DSUBS, ALCO's XLRs, BNCs, etc.





Posted by: Kreplach at September 18, 2013 08:49 PM (6v9FO)

321

 Dick Durbin is politically invulnerable. The fine state of Sick-inois is going to send him back to the Senate forever, no matter what stupid shit he comes up with.

 

_____I'd apologize to the rest of the world for this POS but I've never voted for his azz.

 

Can the rest of IL divorce Chicago?  Please!!!

 

And don't blame us for Obama, he's from Hawaii or Kenya or somewhere.

 

Oh wait, isn't he Indonesian?  Yeah, a Citizen of The World who will stop the seas from rising.

 

Do NOT associate this POS w/ IL, we have a bad enough time recovering from all our govs in jail, we don't claim this POS, Hawaii can have him.

Posted by: The Farmer at September 18, 2013 08:50 PM (eBupg)

322 287 As a lab assistant, I was directing some freshman chemistry students in the art of bending glass tubing. A girl came up to me held up her piece of bent tubing (which was buckled) , and asked 'Is this all right?'. 'No', says I, 'It should be smoother through here', as I traced my finger over the curve..., and heard the sizzle of frying flesh.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 19, 2013 12:35 AM (aDwsi)



In High School chem, I had run this one assigned experiment in about 20 minutes while everyone else was floundering and looking to barely complete it in an hour...but the results looked sloppy. So, I thought -- I'll wash everything out and re-run it and see if it gets any tighter. In order to have a clean, dry beaker, I stuck it over a bunsen after cleaning, then pulled it off after it started glowing -- I mean, what the hell, it's pyrex and it's the school's pyrex at that.



So I'm reloading the experiment while the majority of my classmates are halfway through with theirs, and the chem teacher (whose normal gig was track coach) comes by and says, "Goddamn it, cthulhu! You've got to get a move on!" and picked up the beaker.



*sizzle* -- I give him credit, though, he managed to set it down on the lab bench instead of breaking it. "Sssshhh! Why didn't you tell me that was hot?" -- which lead to one of my treasured, perfect, High School moments as I went back to measuring the ingredients, when I replied, "you didn't ask me."

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:50 PM (T1005)

323 Did you watch the launch? Did the onboard video last longer than it's normally done on other launches, or was it just my imagination? Nor sure why I was so impressed by it. Posted by: Waterhouse at September 19, 2013 12:48 AM (els09) Yes, and I thought the NASA TV video as well as the rocket cam video is about the best I've ever seen in terms of picture quality.

Posted by: rickl at September 18, 2013 08:50 PM (sdi6R)

324 300 I've repaired motherboards, some small electronics, automotive ECUs... mostly bad capacitors, which is easy.

And if you're going to be using the bandsaw, I'll be in the car.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 19, 2013 12:40 AM (qyfb5)



Miter saws are an order of magnitude more dangerous than bandsaws, and table saws require double-checked contingency plans at Casa de Cthulhu before the power is turned on.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:52 PM (T1005)

325 "Goddamn it, cthulhu! You've got to get a move on!" I'll take Lines Never Uttered Before for $600, Alex.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2013 08:52 PM (els09)

326 *So I'm reloading the experiment while the majority of my classmates are halfway through with theirs, and the chem teacher (whose normal gig was track coach) comes by and says, "Goddamn it, cthulhu! You've got to get a move on!" and picked up the beaker. That's what he got for not paying attention.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 18, 2013 08:53 PM (Dsds2)

327 1989...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzK7pUCXHsE

-My Prerogative
-Two Hearts
-When I'm With You
-Straight-Up
-Lost in Your Eyes
-Eternal Flame
-The Look
-She Drives Me Crazy
-Like a Prayer
-I'll Be There For You
-Forever Your Girl
-...yech  4:00 +

-5:00+ 
-Don't Forget My Number
-Good Thing
-If You Don't Know Me
-Horrible Chick

...aftermath



Posted by: Casey Kasem - 1989 at September 18, 2013 08:53 PM (lq3Ak)

328 Once my wife was running the log splitter ( I know. Bad idea. But she wanted to.)  while I was picking up the big pieces. She had her thumb between the splitter wedge and the wood. All I could do was shout "FINGERS". She moved just in time. I still shudder thinking about it.

Posted by: harleycowboy at September 18, 2013 08:53 PM (+9AX9)

329 I'll admit it. My table saw scares the ckuf out of me.

I treat all powered tools as the death dealing gremlins they've proven to be.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 08:54 PM (lAZep)

330 Posted by: cthulhu at September 19, 2013 12:50 AM (T1005) I had an 8th grade chemistry incident involving hydrochloric acid and my pants...the pants ended up taking one for the team, and had to be thrown out.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2013 08:54 PM (QMWjL)

331 Miter saws are an order of magnitude more dangerous than bandsaws,>>

We built our own safety miter saws in high school shop. 3 boards that made a C and then we were graded on the accuracy of our angles. Modern power miter saws you are correct are dangerous as hell.

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 08:56 PM (XjG0F)

332 323 "Goddamn it, cthulhu! You've got to get a move on!"

I'll take Lines Never Uttered Before for $600, Alex.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 19, 2013 12:52 AM (els09)



Yeah, he used my IRL last name...but I thought it improved the dialogue.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 08:57 PM (T1005)

333 I had an 8th grade chemistry incident involving hydrochloric acid and my pants...the pants ended up taking one for the team, and had to be thrown out. Posted by: model_1066 at September 19, 2013 12:54 AM (QMWjL) I also once lost a pair of jeans to hydrochloric acid; the bottle of acid broke apart in the fume hood (thankfully). However, the women who did something similar a few weeks later was not so lucky. She was wearing flip-flops in the lab and ended up burning her feet.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 18, 2013 08:57 PM (Dsds2)

334 3 boards that made a C and then we were graded on the accuracy of our angles.

Pffft.

3 boards are easy. It's matching that 4th one to the rest that's the cfucker.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 08:58 PM (lAZep)

335 "I once re-soldered an electrical connection on a boat using a pair of pliers, a nail, and a Zippo lighter."
Posted by: Mike Hammer 

I repaired a friendship with nothing more than an apology.

...and I got his Saturn up-and-running.

...after the apology.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 08:58 PM (lq3Ak)

336 Speaking of hot things, the thermocouple in our water heater gave up the ghost last weekend. Easy enough to replace, I was just happy it wasn't the valve. First time that has happened to me. It was installed in 1999, so I should not complain.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 08:59 PM (aDwsi)

337 327 I'll admit it. My table saw scares the ckuf out of me. I treat all powered tools as the death dealing gremlins they've proven to be. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 19, 2013 12:54 AM (lAZep) A guy I went to high school with lost the tip of a middle finger to a table saw in shop class...I didn't see it happen, but when he did it he stood there with an odd expression, looking at the bloody stump and yelling "WHAT THE F*CK!!" for several minutes.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2013 08:59 PM (QMWjL)

338 327 I'll admit it. My table saw scares the ckuf out of me.

I treat all powered tools as the death dealing gremlins they've proven to be.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 19, 2013 12:54 AM (lAZep)



I had a gf whose stepdad finally blinked wrong with a table saw at 70+ yo and lost two fingers. Every fuckin' time you use one of those bitches, you're at risk -- no matter how many times you've gotten away with it in the past.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 09:00 PM (T1005)

339 Only saw accident i ever had was with a Makita circular saw. Was on a crew and we used to tie back the guard to speed things up. Well, was in a hurry at home cutting wedges. I cut one and without thinking stuck my index finger under the saw where the guard WOULD have been.  Sawed into the fingerprint of my index finger. Still don't have feeling there 20 years later.

Posted by: Sphynx at September 18, 2013 09:01 PM (cll/q)

340 I wonder if Lee Van Cleef lost the tip of his one finger to a table saw.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2013 09:02 PM (5QKVq)

341 Redskins are exempt from Obamacare.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 09:03 PM (0axsw)

342 337 Only saw accident i ever had was with a Makita circular saw. Was on a crew and we used to tie back the guard to speed things up. Well, was in a hurry at home cutting wedges. I cut one and without thinking stuck my index finger under the saw where the guard WOULD have been. Sawed into the fingerprint of my index finger. Still don't have feeling there 20 years later.

Posted by: Sphynx at September 19, 2013 01:01 AM (cll/q)



A frightening percentage of circular saw accidents happen with feet and legs because guys get used to bracing lumber to be cut.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 09:03 PM (T1005)

343 Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 19, 2013 12:59 AM (aDwsi)

I'd be checking for leaks if I was you.

Had a water heater came with the house. after 3 years it stopped working; pilot light out.

Pilot light was out because the water leak had drowned it.

Replaced with an electric.

A month later got the water bill. #$%&!

3,000 gals.

The water company even sent me a letter saying my usage went suddenly up and I should check my equipment.

I was reminded of the table I saw once on how much water a leak can pass. Just a little drip can amount to 20 gals a day. Or more.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 09:04 PM (lAZep)

344 I regard table saws as being the most dangerous..., I treat mine like a hand grenade. I suppose you have all seen the high $ saw that locks up if it senses body contact?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 09:04 PM (aDwsi)

345 One dangerous tool, and it isn't even a power tool, is the seemingly innocent Jackall jack, and its imitators. I was using (mis-using, to be truthful) one once in a vain attempt to break the bead on a truck tire, having placed the base of the jack on the sidewall of the tire, and the hook under the bumper of a heavy truck. I had jacked until it lifted the truck, without the bead breaking on the tire, and was in the process of lowering the jack to repeat the effort at another spot on the tire, and the pawl in the jack slipped while I had my head in the arc of the handle swing. The handle smacked on the cheekbone so hard, it knocked me down and I saw stars. No broken bones, but there is a dent in my face still, where the cut healed a little crooked.


I got off lucky. People have been killed by them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2013 09:04 PM (8Fl6F)

346 Miter saws are an order of magnitude more dangerous than bandsaws, and table saws require double-checked contingency plans at Casa de Cthulhu before the power is turned on. Posted by: cthulhu at September 19, 2013 12:52 AM (T1005) I'll still be in the car. I will use power saws if I need to but I assume they are possessed by demons intent of depriving me of my limbs, eyes, or fleshy bits.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 09:05 PM (qyfb5)

347 Bitter - No water. Failed thermocouple.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 09:05 PM (aDwsi)

348 3 boards are easy. It's matching that 4th one to the rest that's the cfucker.>>

Though you just may be fucking with me. Yes we were building miter boxes not saws.

http://bit.ly/155nB7W

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 09:06 PM (XjG0F)

349 Alberta - I know a guy that got cracked ribs from a slipped jack.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 09:06 PM (aDwsi)

350 "What the American public needs to do is stop filing their 1040's."

The method of enforcement for that problem is well established for at least 60 years.
Find a few high profile miscreants. Prosecute like a Ton. of. Bricks.
Rinse and repeat. Publicize.
The rest of us then fall in to line.

Posted by: navybrat at September 18, 2013 09:06 PM (kb15h)

351 I was working with a plumber, and had to cut some sections of 1x4 to use for bracing copper water lines. When I first started cutting, it went way too slow for the task, and the wood started to smolder like it was going to catch fire. I thought it odd, maybe the blade was really dull. Looking closer, I determined that it was because the blade was put on backwards! Flipped it around and it operated normally.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2013 09:07 PM (QMWjL)

352 342 I regard table saws as being the most dangerous..., I treat mine like a hand grenade. I suppose you have all seen the high $ saw that locks up if it senses body contact?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 19, 2013 01:04 AM (aDwsi)



Yeah, they've got an awesome demo where they attempt to cut a hot dog. If I used one often, I'd pay the money.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 09:07 PM (T1005)

353 Oh, that was with a circular saw.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2013 09:07 PM (QMWjL)

354 If something is "cut from my person", it'll be by chainsaw or kitchen knife.  I don't pretend to be "familiar" with either.

I look at cutting implements like AtC looks at "The Outdoors".

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 09:07 PM (lq3Ak)

355 I suppose you have all seen the high $ saw that locks up if it senses body contact?>>

I have but i don't understand the demos. Who pushes their stock with their wiener?

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 09:09 PM (XjG0F)

356 Heh. Chainsaws. I am waaaaay too casual about that, probably.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 09:09 PM (aDwsi)

357 Posted by: The Hickster at September 19, 2013 01:06 AM (XjG0F)

Okay.

I misunderstood. I thought you were making miter cuts.

You were making a MITER BOX.

Still, when making like a frame, it's that fourth side that I always get wrong.

But I bought a sears hand compound miter saw so I'm hoping the next mitering project I do they'll come out correct.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 09:10 PM (lAZep)

358  THIS! But try to explain it to a LIB or LIV and you get that deer in the headlights look or the word GREED spittled back at you.

Posted by: bill-o at September 19, 2013 12:37 AM (AWwDY)---

----

Here's an anecdote. There is a 400 Million Powerball drawing tonight (or was it last night). I had a co-worker holding court in the lunchroom about how "they" should just take that 400 million, and give the money equally to every American citizen. (Or at least the 99 percent). By this guy's math, every American would get 1.3 million dollars and be on easy street. Recession over, blah blah blah.

You should have seen the looks I got after I pointed out the blatant, ridiculous math error. (400 million divided by 310 million does not equal 1.3 million, for those keeping score)

So, yes, explaining the minimum wage and tax rates with these people is a futile exercise.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 18, 2013 09:10 PM (jSmN1)

359 Posted by: navybrat at September 19, 2013 01:06 AM (kb15h) Didn't Wesley Snipes just get out of the pen for tax evasion? He was in there for like three years, IIRC.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2013 09:11 PM (QMWjL)

360 Who pushes their stock with their wiener? Posted by: The Hickster ------------------------------ Putin?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 09:11 PM (aDwsi)

361 WOT or off. What else is there?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 18, 2013 09:12 PM (4p5/2)

362 Still, when making like a frame, it's that fourth side that I always get wrong.>>

It's additive and it doesn't show till the forth.

Posted by: The Hickster at September 18, 2013 09:14 PM (XjG0F)

363 "Didn't Wesley Snipes just get out of the pen for tax evasion?"

I have no idea.
The IRS can make your life in to a Hell. You may not have a moment's peace for years.

Posted by: navybrat at September 18, 2013 09:14 PM (kb15h)

364 Putin?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 19, 2013 01:11 AM (aDwsi)

Hell, somebody's got to tamp the dynamite into the holes when they shoot a round at the face in the Siberian gold mines.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2013 09:14 PM (8Fl6F)

365 Past bedtime, by a good margin. Good night folks..., and remember, keep your wiener clear of the blade.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 18, 2013 09:14 PM (aDwsi)

366 I did frames with a scroll saw for a little while. Built a little jig and zip, zip, zip. Eventually that last cut got everything flush. Next.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 18, 2013 09:15 PM (4p5/2)

367

The photo of Putin and Obama on the horsey.

Leading from behind.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 18, 2013 09:15 PM (0axsw)

368 358 Who pushes their stock with their wiener?

Posted by: The Hickster
------------------------------

Putin?



Putin stops the blade with his weiner.  From horseback.

Posted by: Sphynx at September 18, 2013 09:15 PM (cll/q)

369 349 I was working with a plumber, and had to cut some sections of 1x4 to use for bracing copper water lines. When I first started cutting, it went way too slow for the task, and the wood started to smolder like it was going to catch fire. I thought it odd, maybe the blade was really dull. Looking closer, I determined that it was because the blade was put on backwards! Flipped it around and it operated normally.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 19, 2013 01:07 AM (QMWjL)



The money that paid for my college education came from my dad building 5 houses in SoCal in the late '70s....which he drafted me into, bitching and whining -- and which have been some of the most worthwhile things I've ever done.



Around the time we were putting the roof on house #3, I was bitching and whining that he should get a new blade for his little black-and-decker circular saw and he finally gave in. That morning, he had been -- as usual -- shoving the saw through a sheet of plywood and backing a smidge and shoving and backing, all while smoke was coming out of the cut. So I changed the blade over lunch.



So he puts up sheet of plywood, gets the saw going, and shoves the blade into it -- and went all the way across the sheet, catching the edge in the gut, and almost dropped the saw off the other side. It was so startling and so out-of-control that I was in shock when it happened, but it's always good for a chuckle now. After that, he got a new blade for each house.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 09:16 PM (T1005)

370 Posted by: navybrat at September 19, 2013 01:06 AM (kb15h)

But that only works if the penalty is higher than the reward.

With so many out of work or working less and the high cost of compliance, I predict that more and more will take that route.

Perhaps even a preference cascade.

They can't prosecute everyone and yes they do tend to do high profile cases and then publicize them especially around April.

The actual numbers of investigation, prosecutions and trial are lower than you think. Usually if they find out (and they have snitch program just for that. Think ex-gf/bf, ex and current wives/husbands, employers, fellow employees, your neighbor etc.) they do a quit research and then send a letter saying they have found you were remiss in whatever and for you to refile/file and send the money tout suite.

It works in most cases because most people have more to hide than what they got caught at so they settle for paying them off and the IRS cost was some research time and a stamp.

But what if 40 million people decide to say "NO MORE"?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 09:17 PM (lAZep)

371 I suppose you have all seen the high $ saw that locks up if it senses body contact? Just looked it up on the yootubez. That's amazing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMD3agP5hv0

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2013 09:19 PM (omCZ7)

372 I got such a laugh out of your dry summary of Alaa, Maet. Good stuff and reason #3028340283 I keep coming back to the HQ.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 18, 2013 09:19 PM (YNK3y)

373 Say, didn't the IRS just hire a buttload of new agents? Like about 20 thousand?
And gave them guns?
And bought ammo for them for the next decade?
Read about that somewhere...

Posted by: navybrat at September 18, 2013 09:20 PM (kb15h)

374 Tyranny of the Oppressed “Slaves would be tyrants were the chance theirs” — Victor Hugo The Oregon bakery that was being sued, for refusing to provide their services for a same-sex “marriage” ceremony, has closed down because they refused to suspend their 1st Amendment rights of free expression. We are readily hurling towards a nation were only those who express opinions that are not inconsistent with the Progressive mantra. Everyone one else is treated like a second class citizen; this is termed anger by a loss of “privilege” over oppressed minorities. However, the clearly demonstrated power of these “oppressed” interest groups over the “privileged” establishes quite aptly that those who preach for “tolerance” of themselves, are least likely to show it to others. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3198

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2013 09:20 PM (Vk2pI)

375 Posted by: The Political Hat at September 19, 2013 01:20 AM (Vk2pI) Like someone said (maybe it was here?): when are they going to force muslims to sell bacon and booze?

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2013 09:23 PM (QMWjL)

376 Holy. Fucking. Shit. Do a quick search on youtube for Indoctrination in Common Core ELA Texts I'd link, but Pixy hates me. Y'all know what happened last time I tried to link a youtube video. My mind just exploded.

Posted by: Lauren at September 18, 2013 09:25 PM (ELdpj)

377 WOT or off. What else is there? Lift-throttle oversteer!

Posted by: 1975 Porsche 930 at September 18, 2013 09:25 PM (xxXq7)

378 Hey, not only did the IRS just hire about 20k new, armed agents, but, get this, the government just put them in bed with your doctors, nurses, EMT staff, technicians, (all SEIU members, of course).

Yes, tell me more about this so called tax rebellion.

Posted by: navybrat at September 18, 2013 09:25 PM (kb15h)

379 371 Say, didn't the IRS just hire a buttload of new agents? Like about 20 thousand? And gave them guns? And bought ammo for them for the next decade? Read about that somewhere... Posted by: navybrat at September 19, 2013 01:20 AM (kb15h) If there's one thing Obama knows, it's buttloads.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2013 09:25 PM (QMWjL)

380 -My Prerogative
-Two Hearts
-When I'm With You
-Straight-Up
-Lost in Your Eyes
-Eternal Flame


Was that the playlist you chose at the last biker bar you attended?

And at which song was it that you got your ass beat?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 18, 2013 09:27 PM (d7tB2)

381 Paint:

http://tinyurl.com/kgfvudr

Since my blog is seriously FARKED for the duration, well, hell, you might as well suffer along with me.  Click.  CLICK DAMN YOU.

Posted by: Null at September 18, 2013 09:27 PM (xjpRj)

382 Do a quick search on youtube for Indoctrination in Common Core ELA Texts Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2013 01:25 AM (ELdpj) Tell us more about this problem.

Posted by: John Taylor Gatto and Charlotte Iserbyt [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 09:29 PM (qyfb5)

383 369 I suppose you have all seen the high $ saw that locks up if it senses body contact?

Just looked it up on the yootubez. That's amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMD3agP5hv0

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 19, 2013 01:19 AM (omCZ7)



If I were using one once a month, I'd own one of those. As it is, I use one a few times a year so I am merely extremely cautious. But I knew someone who was missing body parts from one.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 09:29 PM (T1005)

384 Like someone said (maybe it was here?): when are they going to force muslims to sell bacon and booze? Posted by: model_1066 at September 19, 2013 01:23 AM (QMWjL) That's what the observant Jews are forÂ…

Posted by: Imam of Dearbornistan at September 18, 2013 09:29 PM (Vk2pI)

385 Desocking and yes, government schools have been and will be used by the same people that used the IRS to harm people that opposed the leftist agenda. And most of the people who could be opposing that are too busy taking care of their own lives, which I admit are screwed up, which is why modern history is basically the history of the rise of leftism and the fall of everybody, over and over.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 09:31 PM (qyfb5)

386 I know someone who has used major power tools on average several times a day for 20 years and isn't missing anything. Very smart, thoughtful and disciplined person. Still got cut a few times, nothing major. Some stitches. That's your "best case" version. I want robots.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 09:33 PM (qyfb5)

387 379 Paint:

http://tinyurl.com/kgfvudr

Since my blog is seriously FARKED for the duration, well, hell, you might as well suffer along with me. Click. CLICK DAMN YOU.

Posted by: Null at September 19, 2013 01:27 AM (xjpRj)



I'm thinking drops of mercury on an aloe....is that a work-in-progress or is it finished? [da Vinci: "Art is never finished, only abandoned."]

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 09:33 PM (T1005)

388 "What a tragedy it would have been if America wouldn't have been able to see Barack Obama as a leader." - Senator Paul (R-Kentucky), September 18, 2013, in prepared remarks delivered in a U.S. Senate committee hearing

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at September 18, 2013 09:35 PM (w45V0)

389 The thing that really got me was the emotionally manipulative language. Anyone who's spent any time around kids knows that around 5 they start to figure out how to phrase something to try to shift blame off of themselves. We're constantly telling our kids "No, the book didn't fall on the ground, you knocked it on the ground, take responsibility for what happened." Liberals spin that natural urge to frame language and exploit and hone it til it becomes out and out propaganda. I also loved the bit about phrasing every statement in terms of the group. "Our this. Our that." No, bitch. It's I. "We" don't need a new playground. I want a new playground. My kids are so fucked. Everyone they meet is going to be baptized in this crap since day one.

Posted by: Lauren at September 18, 2013 09:36 PM (ELdpj)

390 That Sawstop device is very cool, but I think its downfall might be in false triggering. A piece of wet wood, or possibly even a piece of plywood with heavy pencil lines (conductive graphite) on it, could trigger the stopping device. Now it has a "bypass" mode for cutting such things, if the user thinks ahead and engages it. But if he doesn't, a few instances of paying $70 for a new blade and brake shoe might prompt a guy to say, "Fuck it, into permanent bypass it goes."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2013 09:37 PM (8Fl6F)

391 My kids are so fucked. Everyone they meet is going to be baptized in this crap since day one. Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2013 01:36 AM (ELdpj) It's just a new name. They've been doing it since before I was born. We're too busy infighting to do anything about it or even make more people aware.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 09:40 PM (qyfb5)

392 All you need to know about income inequality you can learn form Maggie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2013 09:41 PM (Vk2pI)

393 Not finished yet.  Getting there, but not quite.  Feynmangroupie had the title:  "Concert." 

Posted by: Null at September 18, 2013 09:43 PM (xjpRj)

394 272 I hate everything. Everything.

Posted by: Null at September 19, 2013 12:26 AM (xjpRj)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkKuMnJFx18

Posted by: bill-o at September 18, 2013 09:45 PM (AWwDY)

395 #95

Bingo. Several books have laid out in detail how utterly disconnected the 2008 crisis was from Main Street's finances and how very few companies would have actually folded outside of Wall St. Even a lot of the ones considered at grave risk on Wall St. were later revealed to be perfectly capable of weathering the storm minus a few scapegoat employees, who would still walk away as members of the 1%.

In other words, TARP was completely unnecessary. All it did was preserve some bonuses of existing multimillionaires rather than let be a bit inconvenienced. It's almost enough to make you sympathetic with the OWS crowd except I've never heard a single one of them discuss Wall St.'s crimes in any clear rational manner and generally made it clear they didn't understand the actual problem.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 09:46 PM (kcfmt)

396 The majority of accidents occur because of operator inattentiveness and disabled safety devices.

I know as some of the tools I've had to use were unable to perform the job unless the safety devices (shields and such) were removed.

So, yeah the 2nd or 3rd time that the device interferes with a project, that'll be it.

(and it may not be the fault of the project as some devices just aren't designed with the work in mind but in showing safety inspectors that the machine is "safe". Safety inspectors don't care if the machine does the job or not.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 09:47 PM (lAZep)

397 You guys, the Reds game just.  ended.  Took them 13 innings to put away the Astros.  It was so embarrassing.

Posted by: Filly at September 18, 2013 09:48 PM (y+gTB)

398 Posted by: Filly at September 19, 2013 01:48 AM (y+gTB)

What? They bored them to death?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 18, 2013 09:49 PM (lAZep)

399 388 My kids are so fucked. Everyone they meet is going to be baptized in this crap since day one.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2013 01:36 AM (ELdpj)


It's just a new name. They've been doing it since before I was born.

We're too busy infighting to do anything about it or even make more people aware.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 19, 2013 01:40 AM (qyfb5)



It's been going on since the paleolithic. To be viable within a culture, slavery insists that the ruling class and slaves both work to maintain the status quo. All the crap with LIV was happening with Helots; all the crap with Capitol City -- oops, meant DC -- was happening with Rome. Republics work well until they become prosperous enough that people who are not especially driven, smart, or talented can live well -- then the lackwit idiots with no talents learn that they can vote themselves free shit and the place devolves into another pimp-hand dictatorship that is the more common lot of mankind.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 09:49 PM (T1005)

400 Somebody won $400 million in the Powerball.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 09:53 PM (kcfmt)

401 It's almost enough to make you sympathetic with the OWS crowd except I've never heard a single one of them discuss Wall St.'s crimes in any clear rational manner and generally made it clear they didn't understand the actual problem. Posted by: Epobirs at September 19, 2013 01:46 AM (kcfmt) OWS didn't have anything in mind but Free Shit and furthering the left's grasp on power. Literally and in their documents and announcements. It was started by leftist foundations, ad agencies and in particular AdBusters and its ilk who, in typical fashion, work for the people they claim to oppose. TARP was first an attempt to stop a credit crisis. But as usual in politics, what something was at first bore little relation to what it was in the end. Webcams in every public officer's office and over their damned shoulders every moment they worked that could only be shut off for a set time by court order would help a little.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 09:59 PM (qyfb5)

402   Do a quick search on youtube for Indoctrination in Common Core ELA Texts  I'd link, but Pixy hates me. Y'all know what happened last time I tried to link a youtube video.  My mind just exploded. 

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2013 01:25 AM (ELdpj)



/twitch

Wow.   And if this has been going on in the past, I dodged a bullet by taking grades 1-7 outside the US.   

Any kids I ever have are going to be homeschooled.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 18, 2013 10:00 PM (0wHyk)

403 I have managed to get a few people to actually check what they were taught in school. Realizing how much you've been lied to and how much that forms the basis of your thinking is traumatic.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 10:02 PM (qyfb5)

404 Sorry to seem so damned pessimistic about this IRS (as combined with the ACA or Obamacare) developments. But, this, folks, is fucking dire.

The IRS will now have complete access to your health records. As a matter of fact, they will now be in charge of your records.

We, in the months past, have witnessed first hand the depredations of the IRS in the somewhat minor matter of granting exemptions to conservative organizations.

It is not possible to evaluate this and not draw from it the most dire concerns, as regards combining this perfidy with the power of the medical establishment.

Your SEIU doctors and nurses will now know about your voter registration, the charities to whom you give, and anything else they wish to know. Your doctors will ask if you own firearms, how many, how and where are they stored. Your nurses may take five sticks to get your IV started just for spite, yo damned racist GOPer.

Don't even get me started as to whether or not you will be allowed kidney dialysis or a cornea transplant. Those will be reserved for the Party.

Call me paranoid, but the patterns of abuse are already in place. This is s very bad situation if this train leaves the station, and everyone says it is leaving right now.

Posted by: navybrat at September 18, 2013 10:02 PM (kb15h)

405 Somebody won $400 million in the Powerball. That's a 1.3 million dollars for everyone in America!

Posted by: Low Mathematics Voter at September 18, 2013 10:03 PM (4yKUB)

406 Jeebus. Watching vids from 'Lena Dunham's channel. She really offers shit.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 10:04 PM (LpbKr)

407 Sorry to seem so damned pessimistic about this IRS (as combined with the ACA or Obamacare) developments. But, this, folks, is fucking dire. Posted by: navybrat at September 19, 2013 02:02 AM (kb15h) Yep. I'm purely in reaction mode now. And avoidance mode. Because I don't have a plan to deal with it. Sure picked a good time to be locked into the health care system, didn't I?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 10:08 PM (qyfb5)

408 That's a 1.3 million dollars for everyone in America! Posted by: Low Mathematics Voter at September 19, 2013 02:03 AM (4yKUB) Serious, you guys. 1.3 million should be the 'living wage.'

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 10:11 PM (LpbKr)

409 @335 I saw a guy grind off the end of his thumb with a pedestal grinder in HS metal shop. The look he had on his face is burned into my mind. I never want to see that look again.

Posted by: flounder at September 18, 2013 10:11 PM (Kkt/i)

410 "Sure picked a good time to be locked into the health care system, didn't I?'

Dude, you or I could go in for something minor like a tonsillectomy and while we were under they could just put a dry cleaning bag over our heads.

This shit is so fucked up, I can't even begin to figure out how anyone, in the fucking imponderable depths of their impenetrable ignorance, ever remotely thought it was a good idea.

Posted by: navybrat at September 18, 2013 10:12 PM (kb15h)

411 I saw a guy grind off the end of his thumb with a pedestal grinder in HS metal shop. The look he had on his face is burned into my mind. I never want to see that look again. Posted by: flounder at September 19, 2013 02:11 AM (Kkt/i) I am reminded of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toNsPh-pxgc

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2013 10:13 PM (Vk2pI)

412 Oh and have soldered electronics and pipe, grazed, welded (oxy, mig) and oxy cut, but it would take a while to get to merely mediocre again with the welding.

Posted by: flounder at September 18, 2013 10:14 PM (Kkt/i)

413 Somebody won $400 million in the Powerball.

That's a 1.3 million dollars for everyone in America!

 

Posted by: Low Mathematics Voter at September 19, 2013 02:03 AM

 

 

I like money.

Posted by: otho at September 18, 2013 10:15 PM (9gNQd)

414 1.3 million should be the 'living wage.' Posted by: RWC at September 19, 2013 02:11 AM (LpbKr) Also also the yearly rent for a two-bedroom apartment. You're welcome.

Posted by: The Inevitable Inflation That Follows [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 10:15 PM (qyfb5)

415 #398

Thing is, there was no credit crisis. It was all a fraud. There was just a handful of extremely wealthy entities who'd have a bad quarter.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 10:16 PM (kcfmt)

416 Call me paranoid, but the patterns of abuse are already in place. This is s very bad situation if this train leaves the station, and everyone says it is leaving right now. Posted by: navybrat at September 19, 2013 02:02 AM (kb15h) And people say that 'LIB' isn't a strategy. Shit, that is all we have left. Sooner rather than later please. I am in total 'fuck you' mode now. I look out for myself and immediate family. Can you spare some change? No, fuck you, I can't. There are many, many programs I pay for that can help you buddie.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 10:16 PM (LpbKr)

417 This shit is so fucked up, I can't even begin to figure out how anyone, in the fucking imponderable depths of their impenetrable ignorance, ever remotely thought it was a good idea. Posted by: navybrat at September 19, 2013 02:12 AM (kb15h) It wasn't ignorance. But it is pretty fucked up.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 10:16 PM (qyfb5)

418 I look at cutting implements like AtC looks at "The Outdoors".

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 19, 2013 01:07 AM (lq3Ak)

I have visible scars on every finger on my left hand from my brief stint (2yrs) in the seafood dept of the local grocery chain.


Posted by: bill-o at September 18, 2013 10:16 PM (AWwDY)

419 MADD's revenge -- http://tinyurl.com/kmfk542 [from the side bar]. How'd you like a DUI if you ate a sammich?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 10:16 PM (T1005)

420 This shit is so fucked up, I can't even begin to figure out how anyone, in the fucking imponderable depths of their impenetrable ignorance, ever remotely thought it was a good idea. heh heh heh!

Posted by: People who likes them some dry cleaning bags over your head ... at September 18, 2013 10:18 PM (j/FJV)

421 @408 Yeah, of course we had to check the grinding wheel. And yes there was what you'll expect after such an incident. The guy was kind of a special snowflake, before there was such a name. He had no business being around man stuff.

Posted by: flounder at September 18, 2013 10:19 PM (Kkt/i)

422 411 1.3 million should be the 'living wage.' Posted by: RWC at September 19, 2013 02:11 AM (LpbKr) Also also the yearly rent for a two-bedroom apartment. You're welcome. Posted by: The Inevitable Inflation That Follows at September 19, 2013 02:15 AM (qyfb5) Don't know how true that is. Back in 2007 when ai was looking I went through many apartments asking for 400+. Tip- if you're asking that for your apartment then get off your ass and clean up the place instead of playing video games during the walkthrough.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2013 10:19 PM (LpbKr)

423 huhuh uh huh... he said "man stuff"... huhuh uh huh

Posted by: butthead at September 18, 2013 10:20 PM (9gNQd)

424 @413 Ask Obama is my standard response.

Posted by: flounder at September 18, 2013 10:20 PM (Kkt/i)

425 one for the GoT // BB fanbois and gryls ... http://io9.com/comment-of-the-day-walter-white-is-secretly-tywin-lann-1344192957

Posted by: Adriane... at September 18, 2013 10:21 PM (j/FJV)

426 Mentalfloss article on Bourbon: http://tinyurl.com/kfqcv6a

Posted by: The Drinky Hat Drinker at September 18, 2013 10:21 PM (Vk2pI)

427 1 Scots, 1 Bourbon, 1 Bear ... or something like that ...

Posted by: Adriane... at September 18, 2013 10:23 PM (j/FJV)

428 I'm still trying to find out if any likes Aperol spritzers ...

Posted by: Adriane... at September 18, 2013 10:24 PM (j/FJV)

429 MADD's revenge -- http://tinyurl.com/kmfk542 [from the side bar]. How'd you like a DUI if you ate a sammich? Posted by: cthulhu at September 19, 2013 02:16 AM (T1005) More gut flora. Unfortunately as they said, it's a case report and not a study, which means it won't really be studied properly or a treatment developed (other than the obvious) nor the implications explored. Rare conditions get short shrift until they realize they're not so rare. Old school doctors would keep case studies and get word out about it, people who had successful treatments would be sought out. Now if it's not the result of trials there's no possible (or legal) treatment. If your case is rare they do nothing to treat because of institutional paralysis.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 10:25 PM (qyfb5)

430 Night all. Here is "Atma" from YOB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvmTiPOH6Ew

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2013 10:33 PM (Vk2pI)

431 Good Night, Political Hat ... thanks for the link

Posted by: Adriane... at September 18, 2013 10:37 PM (j/FJV)

432 Night horde.

Posted by: flounder at September 18, 2013 10:39 PM (Kkt/i)

433 Something's weird going on with AoS site tonight; it starts to load and then automatically takes me to youtube.com and a blank white page... first, RAAACIST! but seriously, it took me three tries to click comments quick enough before being redirected. Anyone else?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 18, 2013 10:43 PM (KL49F)

434 #430

No problem here. Sounds malware-y. Browser hijacking is a common tactic and screwing up is also common, resulting in a broken setup instead of making the victim looked at the page you've taken them to.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 10:47 PM (kcfmt)

435 430 Something's weird going on with AoS site tonight; it starts to load and then automatically takes me to youtube.com and a blank white page... first, RAAACIST! but seriously, it took me three tries to click comments quick enough before being redirected. Anyone else?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 19, 2013 02:43 AM (KL49F)



I had a similar thing on Breitbart "conversation" a few minutes ago. I had a pending mozilla update, which flakes the shit out of the browser until you let it do its thing, so I ascribed it to that. I've just let it update and haven't seen any new stability glitches yet.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 10:50 PM (T1005)

436 Thank you 431 & 432, I'll look into it; of course right after I posted it quit doing it, lol!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 18, 2013 10:53 PM (KL49F)

437 Sounds like the update issue, but I'd run a virus scan with updated security software overnight anyway. If you were good at these things you'd burn up-to-date software to a bootbale CD and do a runtime scan without loading the OS.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 10:58 PM (qyfb5)

438 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 19, 2013 02:58 AM (qyfb5)

That last sentence you posted is all Greek to me, lol! I am on Firefox so for now I'll chalk it up to a Mozilla update.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 18, 2013 11:02 PM (KL49F)

439 Hmm. Firefox was waiting to update to version 24 but I wasn't having any problems. And that was with Live Mail, Vuze, and Blue Stacks all running along side.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 11:04 PM (kcfmt)

440 436 Hmm. Firefox was waiting to update to version 24 but I wasn't having any problems. And that was with Live Mail, Vuze, and Blue Stacks all running along side.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 19, 2013 03:04 AM (kcfmt)



Every freakin' time Firefox does an update, it says: "do you want to stop right now and update?" and when you say no, it continues to operate in a deliberately flaky manner.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 11:06 PM (T1005)

441 436 Hmm. Firefox was waiting to update to version 24 but I wasn't having any problems. And that was with Live Mail, Vuze, and Blue Stacks all running along side.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 19, 2013 03:04 AM (kcfmt)



I think it likes you best.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 11:07 PM (T1005)

442 The Google execs have realized that being super rich should mean not dying within a single short century. So they've started a company specializing in lif extension tech.
http://tinyurl.com/ooyrdkb

Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 11:09 PM (kcfmt)

443 Peon (387): I have a SawStop and it's actually pretty forgiving w/wet wood. I cut some very green redwood w/it when I was building a greenhouse, and it was fine. You could feel the moisture spraying off the wood as it was cut. Of course, I did some test cuts in bypass mode to make sure the flesh detection indicator light didn't go on. Of course if you cut into metal it'll trip, as a couple of kids in my daughter's H.S. wood shop class found out. (They have like 4 industrial size SawStops, plus a bunch of other drool-worthy machinery in a 2-year young shop).

Posted by: Average Guy at September 18, 2013 11:14 PM (gitp2)

444 411 1.3 million should be the 'living wage.'

Posted by: RWC at September 19, 2013 02:11 AM (LpbKr)


Also also the yearly rent for a two-bedroom apartment.

You're welcome.

Posted by: The Inevitable Inflation That Follows at September 19, 2013 02:15 AM (qyfb5)--

==

Yep. All these people that think the government should just hand everyone a million bucks has no concept of how that would affect the economy. Costs would simply re-adjust, the "poor" would still be "poor". They would still be bitching about the 1 percenters living in their billion-dollar mansions.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 18, 2013 11:17 PM (jSmN1)

445 The Google execs have realized that being super rich should mean not dying within a single short century. So they've started a company specializing in lif extension tech. Posted by: Epobirs at September 19, 2013 03:09 AM (kcfmt) (adds to list of places to raid after the apocalypse)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 18, 2013 11:19 PM (qyfb5)

446 They could just declare the penny to be worth $1 million and everything scales up from there. All that happens is we become Italy when pocket change was measured in millions of Lira.

Coming soon to McDonalds: the 100 million dollar menu. Same stuff, just  a lot more zeros.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 11:22 PM (kcfmt)

447 To use my table saw, I've got to dredge it out, unfold the stand, mount it, check the blade, square it, and get the guards in place before I make a single cut. It is not my "go-to" tool in any way. I'm glad to have it, but I'm not getting casual with it. And still, I double-check the plan and the bailouts before I spin it up.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 11:23 PM (T1005)

448 funny, i checked the thread and see you guys are talking table saws. I thought i was on the wrong tab. I am looking to buy a new table saw in japan, and not a lot available. while researching, i seem to see nothing but people talking about "a guy they knew" that lost fingers and how after seeing that they sold their old saw and bought a sawstop. I have seen it so many times i was starting to think they were planted, and now i see the same stuff here, and i trust the ont'ers (i'm gullible) (and stupid)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 18, 2013 11:25 PM (zZJJp)

449 So they've started a company specializing in lif extension tech. Run by some guy named Howard ...

Posted by: Adriane... at September 18, 2013 11:31 PM (j/FJV)

450 Nudge Sunstein: "...Second, people tend to be especially focused on risks or hazards that have an identifiable perpetrator, and for that reason produce outrage."

Zombie Alinsky, call your office. This guy is stealing your schtick.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 18, 2013 11:31 PM (eHIJJ)

451 I don't drink. I just smoked pot. So, um, what was the question?

Posted by: SCoaMF at September 18, 2013 11:34 PM (eHIJJ)

452 Howard only provides the endowment because he is doomed to die rather young. Others run the foundation.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 18, 2013 11:39 PM (kcfmt)

453 Folding. G'night, all.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2013 11:48 PM (T1005)

454 I Was Just a Kid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts8MoqwyVLw

I'm not responsible for "Starship".

...I wanna dance with somebody.  -Hot Whitney Hoston.

Heart, Los Lobos, R.E.M., U2, Crowded House and "La Isla Bonita".

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 11:49 PM (lq3Ak)

455 Good Night

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 18, 2013 11:50 PM (lq3Ak)

456 Gentlemen (445): I was using an old Powermatic contractors saw that was ok, but a little beat up and lacking in the accuracy department. I started thinking of upgrading, maybe a nice not too expensive hybrid table saw in the $1k range. Then my wife says "why don't you get one of those SawStop saws?" I told her they're pretty expensive, and she said "get one of those SawStop saws." Turns out she likes my fingers. Go figure. Anyway, I got the saw; she got a greenhouse & shed, a fireplace mantle, a new bathroom, closet, and pantry, etc. etc. The build quality is top notch; equal to a Unisaw IMHO. Would highly recommend it.

Posted by: Average Guy at September 19, 2013 12:04 AM (gitp2)

457 Zombie Alinsky, call your office. This guy is stealing your schtick. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 19, 2013 03:31 AM (eHIJJ) Most of the people I know who read the foundational documents of the Long March with an aim to emulate them for the forces of, well, anything else... you find that manipulation is kind of like the One Ring - you can use it, but it changes you in ugly ways. There's a reason it's such a common theme in speculative literature.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 19, 2013 12:13 AM (qyfb5)

458 Howard only provides the endowment because he is doomed to die rather young. Others run the foundation. I sit socklessly but wearing pants corrected ...

Posted by: Adriane... at September 19, 2013 12:23 AM (j/FJV)

459 A nitpick but critical to the plot device.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 19, 2013 12:43 AM (kcfmt)

460 413 Call me paranoid, but the patterns of abuse are already in place. This is s very bad situation if this train leaves the station, and everyone says it is leaving right now. Posted by: navybrat at September 19, 2013 02:02 AM (kb15h) And people say that 'LIB' isn't a strategy. Shit, that is all we have left. Sooner rather than later please. I am in total 'fuck you' mode now. I look out for myself and immediate family. Can you spare some change? No, fuck you, I can't. There are many, many programs I pay for that can help you buddie. Posted by: RWC This^??? Yep. The few people who have treated me like a human being after my second wife died. All the rest? Have fun, Ø-Merica. You wanted this BS. I tried to warn you. You called me RAAACIST! It was the color of his idjit ideas that told me he was a clown. Not the color of his worthless hide. But? Whatever. Deal with the consequences of your stupid "choices...."

Posted by: backhoe at September 19, 2013 01:31 AM (ULH4o)

461

21l bitter clinger:

Guilty on all counts. ASME qualified on stick back before they had idiot sticks.

Posted by: mac at September 19, 2013 01:40 AM (pEsGM)

462 The build quality is top notch; equal to a Unisaw IMHO. Would highly recommend it. Posted by: Average Guy at September 19, 2013 04:04 AM (gitp2) I am considering it if i can find a distributor in Japan. My other option seems to be a cheap makita or such without even a riving knife, or trying to find an import.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 19, 2013 01:45 AM (zZJJp)

463 How about if their "income" is, essentially, the money being pumped by Bernanke (ie. created out of thin air). That should anger people.

Posted by: ejo at September 19, 2013 02:29 AM (C/Spx)

464 460 How about if their "income" is, essentially, the money being pumped by Bernanke (ie. created out of thin air). That should anger people. Posted by: ejo at September 19, 2013 06:29 AM (C/Spx) You mean like the Feds buying their own bonds....with money they don't have....is that what you mean?

Posted by: BignJames at September 19, 2013 02:58 AM (j7iSn)

465

*looks around*

 

Isn't Vic s'posed to be around here somewhere?  Isn't it supposed to smell like coffee and brain cells firing up?

Posted by: RushBabe at September 19, 2013 03:00 AM (hrIP5)

466 461-kinda

Posted by: ejo at September 19, 2013 05:18 AM (GXvSO)

467 The rich are getting richer BECAUSE of liberal Democrat policies. That's a feature (not a bug) of their programs. Republicans (conservatives) should take this statistic and use it to argue for free-market policies, less regulation, less government spending, and less transfers of wealth from the productive middle-class to the rich elites that are going on under Obama and the Democrats. Modern day conservatives are traditional liberals in that they want to make the poor richer and open up opportunities for them- I don't know why we let the elitist liberals pretend that this is their exclusive ground when the opposite is demonstratively true.

Posted by: A Conservative Teacher at September 19, 2013 03:03 PM (idosS)

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