September 23, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (9-23-2013)
— Maetenloch

It's time for a little retro-Ace....

Scandis Go Home!

In which Ace explains his journey along the road to hating the filthy Snow-Wops.

I don't remember when my Pappy first taught me hate -- hatred of the icicle-squating Scandi snow-wops. But I'll always thank him for it.

One of my earliest memories is of watching the Muppet Show, and happily laughing along to the Swedish Chef. Hur-de-ver-de-verd-e-verr, the Swedish Chef said. And I, not knowing any better, merrily repeated his dirty Scandi gutter-talk. "Hur-de-verd-de-verd-e-verr," I said along.

My Pappy walked in, agahst, and shook his head in disgust. "They're goddamned trying to brainwash these kids," he said. The next day, the television was gone, and in place of the tv was a record player and a bunch of Richard Pryor and Redd Foxx albums. "You listen to these guys," my Pappy said. "They don't truck with any goddamned Scandi luge-jockeys."

Along with their disgusting sub-human ways.

Another time I was eating dinner, but wouldn't eat my vegetables. "There are children starving in Scandinavia, you know," my Pappy told me.

"So I should eat the vegetables, and not waste them?" I asked.

"Nah, throw 'em out, let the 'possums have at them," he said. "Let the filthy Loki-lovers eat fucking snow. Human food would be wasted on them."

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A Correction on Ann Coulter's Column From Last Night

Well Ann is rarely wrong but Neo-neocon points out that the deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill was not strictly a liberal cause. There had been some pretty egregious abuse of the involuntary commitment process in the past and this ultimately led to multiple groups agreeing to end this policy for their own reasons.

Ann Coulter is not entirely correct about deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill having been a liberal movement.  Sure, liberals have defended it and pushed it, but originally it was libertarians who spearheaded the movement.  Then their ideas were taken up by the left.  So it was a fusion of the two groups, even though otherwise they may be at loggerheads (similar fusions have occurred with the movement to legalize marijuana, just to take one example).

The grand-daddy of the movement to "liberate" the mentally ill was Dr. Thomas Szasz, who was a fervent libertarian (he did not believe there was such a thing as "mental illness" ). See this article for more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/thomas_szasz_a_life_in_error.html

Remembering the Lod Airport Massacre

But the Lod massacre remains one of the most terrifying in the long list of terrorist attacks that have followed, and at the time it was perpetrated (1972) it was especially horrific. Masterminded by the PLO (specifically, its hard left wing the PLFP), it was also a prelude to the much-more-famous Munich Olympics massacre that gripped the world just a few short months later.

The PLO was involved in both, but the Lod massacre featured unusual perpetrators for that organization, and that was part of its shock value: leftist Japanese gunmen.

...[T]hree inconspicuous Japanese men dressed in business suits disembarked Air France Flight 132 from Rome and strolled into the baggage claim area. After retrieving what appeared to be violin cases, the men pulled out machine guns, opened fire and threw grenades indiscriminately at the crowds of people.


The gunmen killed 26 people: 17 Christian pilgrims from Puerto Rico, one Canadian citizen, and eight Israelis, and 80 people were injured
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People often forget that back in the 70s there was a lot of crazy terrorist partnerships across national and ideological lines and that the Left has been comfortable with Arab terrorism for a long time.

And of course the Axis of Evil had to be involved as well:

In 2008, the eight surviving children of Carmelo Calderón Molina, who was killed in the attack, and Pablo Tirado, son of survivor Pablo Tirado Ayala, who was wounded in the attack, filed a lawsuit at the U.S. Federal Courthouse in San Juan, Puerto Rico. They sued the government of North Korea for providing material support to the PFLP and the JRA, and for planning the attack. The plaintiffs claimed a right to sue the North Korean government based on the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act of 1976. Preliminary hearings to examine evidence began on December 2, 2009, with district judge Francisco Besosa presiding. The North Korean government did not respond to the lawsuit and had no representatives present. The victim's families were represented by attorneys from the Shurat HaDin Israel Law Center, including its founder, Nitsana Darshan-Leitner.

In July 2010, the U.S. court ordered North Korea to pay US$378 million to families as compensation for the terror attack.

Inside Baseball, The Beatles, and Knowing the Guitar

Here's the inside baseball for you. In the past I played for money, often on short notice, sometimes among total strangers, so I notice such things: About eight bars into the song, Glenn realizes that the bass player doesn't know the song. You can see him turn his torso towards the laggard, and his eyes recognize the mild sort of panic in the other musician's eyes. He stays turned through one verse, making very deliberate chord shapes way down the neck, so that the bass player can see them. A good bass player knows something about the guitar, and by looking at the position of the fingers and the spot on the neck, he can sort out the chord changes. Once around should do it, and does. If you want to know what being a bandleader is like, Glenn is trying to sing like Paul McCartney, play like John Lennon, and coax George Harrison through playing the bass at the same time. If he's like me, or most any other human, he's desperately trying to remember the words at the same time.

More here:

So I offer the Dwight Twilley Theorem to you, my readers. Here goes:

If an infinite number of garage bands are formed after watching a Beatles movie, and they hit notes at random on Telecasters and sing doggerel for an infinite amount of time, they'll eventually get Casey Kasem to utter their name on AM radio after midnight on Sunday, even if their bass player doesn't know what to do with his hands.

The corollary to this theorem is: Only the music store and Yoko Ono will end up with any money.

Murder by Craigslist

If you were a killer and wanted to lure in victims through Craigslist, how would you do it? Well Richard 'Jack' Beasley eventually found the perfect pitch to keep ideal victims coming to him along with all their possessions.

Davis wasn't the only person to answer the Craigslist ad. More than 100 people applied for the caretaker job -- a fact that Jack was careful to cite in his e-mails back to the applicants. He wanted to make sure that they knew the position was highly sought-after. Jack had a specific type of candidate in mind: a middle-aged man who had never been married or was recently divorced, and who had no strong family connections. Someone who had a life he could easily walk away from. "If picked I will need you to start quickly," he would write in his e-mails.

Jack painstakingly designed the ad to conjure a very particular male fantasy: the cowboy or rancher, out in the open country, herding cattle, mending fences, hunting game -- living a dream that could transform a post-recession drifter into a timeless American icon. From the many discarded drafts of the ad that investigators later found, it was clear that Jack was searching for just the right pitch to catch a certain kind of man's eye.

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A Tale of Two Navy Undersecretaries

Here is the CV of Bob Work who left in March:

- NROTC type, commissioned as a 2LT in the USMC in 1974.
- 27 years active duty service in the Marines. Commanded an artillery battalion, then Camp Fuji.
- The first head of the Marine Corps' Strategic Initiatives Group.
- Military Assistant and Special Aide to United States Secretary of the Navy Richard Danzig; retired as a Colonel in 2001.
- Spent the 2000s at CBSA and played around at Georgetown, ONA, and OSD - including work on the 2006 QDR.
- Worked with the Obama transition team and served four years with energy and verve as The Under.
- More of a paper trail than you have time to read.

And here is the CV of his successor, Jo Ann Rooney:

- OCT 12 - present; Huron Consulting Group as a managing directors in the Huron Healthcare practice out of, ahem, Chicago.
- JUN/OCT 11 to JUN 12; Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness (acting): 8-months.
- JUL 10 to DEC 10; Mount Ida College, President. Student body 1,300.
- 2002 to 2010; Spalding University, President. Student body 2,000.
- 1996 to 2002; chief counsel, chief operating officer, chief financial officer, and partner of The Lyons Companies in Waltham, Mass. That firm maintained a national practice specializing in estate planning, capital advising, charitable planning, executive compensation, business succession planning, and benefits planning and administration for corporations, individuals and nonprofit organizations.
- Prior to that she was a tax lawyer.

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We're in the very best of hands.

5 Iconic Characters That Were Only Supposed to Be Bit Parts

And in this case went on to have their own 11 season series:

Frasier Crane was basically his opposite -- a stuffy, pompous rich guy who didn't care much for the working class functional alcoholics who hung around at Cheers. The plan was that he would stick around for a few days until the others told him to piss off and Diane could come to her senses.

And no one was more eager for this to happen than Long, who hated Grammer and was constantly demanding he be written out of the show as quickly as possible. But you know who hated Long in return? The writers, who Grammer says kept the character around purely out of spite. If Long had liked him, or even been less of a horrible person, maybe they'd have just let Frasier drop off the map. Of course, that might be Grammer not giving himself enough credit -- the producers say they just loved what Grammer did with the character, which is what they would say since it sounds better than "The entire show was just our experiment to see if we could cause Shelley Long to have a nervous breakdown."

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Recognizing Works by Famous painters Made Easy

There's no need to take Art Appreciation 101 and stress when you know the tricks.

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If everyone looks like hobos illuminated only by a dim streetlamp, it's Rembrandt.

Ted Turner: Men Should Be Barred From Political Office For 100 Years

TED TURNER: Well, I came up with the idea at least 20 years ago that we needed more women in politics. It would take a different turn. And I suggested that men be barred from political office. They could do everything else, be president of universities, business leaders, but they just couldn't serve in any elected position for 100 years.

[Laughter and applause]

I think we'd have a lot more emphasis on education and healthcare and a lot less on Army and the Navy and the Marine Corps.

[Laughter and applause]

It would be a very positive step, but it hasn't happened yet. But it still might. And then they just toss in the towel. They can't come up with a budget.

Yep still crazy and a fool after all these years.

WTF CAIR!

Taking the Islam out of their brand.

MSNBC Finally Admits What They Are

When visiting MSNBC.com, guests are now prompted to choose between NBC News, "for breaking news and reporting," on the left side of the screen, and MSNBC, "what progressives have been waiting for," on the right side.

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The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.

And my twitter thang.

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Posted by: Maetenloch at 06:26 PM | Comments (493)
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1 First?

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2013 06:27 PM (doBIb)

2 Hmm.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 06:27 PM (aDwsi)

3 Hi

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 06:28 PM (HVff2)

4 Dang, EC.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 06:28 PM (aDwsi)

5 Fourth. Or whatever.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at September 23, 2013 06:28 PM (DoZD+)

6 Good Night

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 23, 2013 06:28 PM (MnSla)

7
Portraits From the National Beard and Mustache Championships

http://tinyurl.com/m36ykpb



No words.  Poetry!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 23, 2013 06:29 PM (kdS6q)

8

NINE!

 

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 06:30 PM (lq3Ak)

9 dammit, at least I got "NINE" off of Slap. 

Posted by: Peaches at September 23, 2013 06:31 PM (8lmkt)

10 Wow on the Shelly Long/Kelsey Grammer thing.  I did not know that.

Long seems like a bitch, and it's a good thing the writers never dumped Frasier's character from the show.  How awesome was it when the writers decided to cast Bebe Neuwirth as Frasier's love interest thereby cementing his presence on the show even more?

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2013 06:31 PM (doBIb)

11 I don't forget the "crazy Left partnerships". All of us in Europe in the 1980s knew about the IRA, the Red Brigades, Qaddafi and the PLO. Until 1989 we thought they were worse than Islamic terrorists - in fact, we didn't think there was such a thing, we worried about Shiites.

Then, Rushdie happened.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 23, 2013 06:32 PM (d7tB2)

12 Scandinavia hating Kaboom eating little fucker that Ace kid is

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 06:32 PM (HVff2)

13 I've got a lutefisk with your name on it.

Posted by: fluffy, Iceback at September 23, 2013 06:32 PM (z9HTb)

14 Ground Zero of the War for AmericaÂ’s Future Since an AP study book was revealed to have re-written the 2nd amendment, more textbooks that have been widely adopted and used have been revealed to similarly re-write the 2nd Amendment to falsely make it seem that it only protects the right to join a state militia or National Guard. The outrage is in large part due to the success of the Gun Rights activists to not only change and correct the law, but to educate people of the truth. Our 2nd Amendment rights are one of the few inalienable rights to have been expanded in recent decades. However, that second textbook had, in the same page as the incorrect summation of the 2nd Amendment, a declaration and critique of the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution, which reveals a far greater vicious mis-characterization of not only the Bill of Rights, but of American history itself. This is due to the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect where someone who understand a subject readily points out the mistakes they are familiar withÂ… but then donÂ’t consider that the rest of what they are reading/viewing are filled with other errors in other subjects. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3280

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 23, 2013 06:32 PM (Vk2pI)

15 I saw the resume comparisons for Undersecretary the other day and almost stroked out. 

Posted by: no good deed at September 23, 2013 06:32 PM (k55Fc)

16 God love you, Maet!!!  You are the epitome of the awesome dude.  If I had ONT duty, I'd be all, here you go, you will get nothing and you will like it, nay, you will give it a sloppy bj, because we know you.  Anyhow, that kinda went off track but, kudos and thanks for all you do for us. 

Posted by: Peaches at September 23, 2013 06:33 PM (8lmkt)

17 I was surprised not to see 'Fonzie" on that list. From what I remember Henry Winkler as Fonzie was NOT suppose to be a major character on Happy Days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 06:34 PM (9Xc5j)

18 Oh god, any one get G-4 network, they are showing "Airwolf"

Posted by: Ma Bell at September 23, 2013 06:34 PM (RLdcX)

19 >>>>TED TURNER: Well, I came up with the idea at least 20 years ago that we needed more women in politics. It would take a different turn. And I suggested that men be barred from political office.>>>>

Ted's not addressing the real issue. His father used to beat Ted until Ted was bloody, and then his father made Ted beat him until he was bloody.

I saw Ted reveal this on 60 Minutes. His father said, and I quote, "Now you do me."

But Ted loves his father, he said. Because his father was a great man.

All leftists have Daddy issues. It's axiomatic.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 06:34 PM (TJw7K)

20 I was surprised not to see 'Fonzie" on that list.

there's a list??? 

Posted by: Peaches at September 23, 2013 06:35 PM (8lmkt)

21 Portraits From the National Beard and Mustache Championships

http://tinyurl.com/m36ykpb

I can only hope cthulu ate that guy for wearing him like that. 

Posted by: no good deed at September 23, 2013 06:35 PM (k55Fc)

22 His father used to beat Ted until Ted was bloody, and then his father made Ted beat him until he was bloody.

apparently, they were doing it wrong . . .

Posted by: Peaches at September 23, 2013 06:35 PM (8lmkt)

23 Santa Claus is a Craigslist murderer???

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 23, 2013 06:35 PM (K5R1m)

24 Since Scandis are mentioned above, I'll present the Swedish Chef making popcorn shrimp (make sure the captioning is on): http://tinyurl.com/3ajcqkz

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 06:36 PM (vswPF)

25 I was surprised not to see 'Fonzie" on that list. there's a list??? Posted by: Peaches at September 23, 2013 10:35 PM (8lmkt) I don't usually read the body of the threads either, but if ya look up there: NGU points up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 06:36 PM (9Xc5j)

26 16 God love you, Maet!!! You are the epitome of the awesome dude. If I had ONT duty, I'd be all, here you go, you will get nothing and you will like it, nay, you will give it a sloppy bj, because we know you. Anyhow, that kinda went off track but, kudos and thanks for all you do for us.
Posted by: Peaches at September 23, 2013 10:33 PM (8lmkt)


I accept this award in the spirit it was offered...I think. I've found it's best not to examine these kind of things too closely.

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 23, 2013 06:37 PM (pAlYe)

27 Lot of interesting stuff in here. Not that I care about any of it.

Posted by: 1200km to Wall Drug at September 23, 2013 06:37 PM (cv2Rp)

28

The more I read about Obama(don't)care, the more I think about how many songs  revolve around  an out of control train.

From "Casey Jones" to Jethro Tull's Locomotive Breath.

 

Musical foreshadowing ??

Posted by: seamrog at September 23, 2013 06:37 PM (YuelC)

29 Yay !!!!!! GREAT ONT !!!!!! Good Evening to All !!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at September 23, 2013 06:38 PM (HsI7Q)

30 Santa Claus is a Craigslist murderer??? ----- He seemed like such a nice guy. Well, except for that whole sees-you-when-you're-sleeping thing. That seems a little weird, now, in hindsight.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at September 23, 2013 06:38 PM (GmTxn)

31 Here's the go-to poem on the clattering train :

http://books.google.com/books?id=M-MpAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA200

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 23, 2013 06:38 PM (d7tB2)

32 The Denver Broncos look to be a roll.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 06:39 PM (9Xc5j)

33 So.. you want to know what really chapped my ass after all this time??? well... I'll you anyway. Mr brother has the fucking balls to tell me the other day that he thought my mom was more comfortable with his GF than me when going to doctor appts. REALLY?? Oh just fuck with a chainsaw.. Gawd I was pissed.. and hurt

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at September 23, 2013 06:39 PM (u25eL)

34 Lot of interesting stuff in here. Not that I care about any of it. Posted by: 1200km to Wall Drug at September 23, 2013 10:37 PM (cv2Rp) As a Canadian, get thee to Wall Drug! Who cares about the clicks?

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 06:39 PM (vswPF)

35 Santa Claus is a Craigslist murderer???

Has the entire country of Canada been in a coma for the last 20 years?? 

Posted by: Peaches at September 23, 2013 06:40 PM (8lmkt)

36 Relax...... You're soaking in it.

Posted by: Scandi Hate at September 23, 2013 06:40 PM (jucos)

37 As much as I love the military and was proud to wear the uniform...I am sooo glad I am out of the Navy. I have friends that are active duty and they said I wouldn't last very long due to the "PC" bullshit. That's probably a good thing.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 06:40 PM (kVw0W)

38 that's fuck YOU.. dammit I'm still so pissed I can't type.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at September 23, 2013 06:40 PM (u25eL)

39 I saw Ted reveal this on 60 Minutes. His father said, and I quote, "Now you do me." But Ted loves his father, he said. Because his father was a great man. All leftists have Daddy issues. It's axiomatic. Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 10:34 PM (TJw7K) Are you making that up? If true, it explains a lot about why Teddy is a wackadoodle.

Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 23, 2013 06:42 PM (bb5+k)

40 Time for bed for this moron. Get your drink on and keep fighting the Prog bastards, you Princes of Morons, You Kings of New Media.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 23, 2013 06:42 PM (+POLm)

41 Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at September 23, 2013 10:39 PM (u25eL)

If you need some .38 ammo, I will (not lyin') fedex it to you in the morning.  Not like i'm using it.  Guessing his fuckin' gf is a total fuckin' slice of awesome, too, eh? 

Posted by: Peaches at September 23, 2013 06:42 PM (8lmkt)

42 And here is the CV of his successor, Jo Ann Rooney: And probably carpet munching buddy of Lois Learner, this government makes me want to hurl or revolt or both

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 06:42 PM (HVff2)

43 Jewells you need minions, so when he does that you can wave and they'll drag him out by his ankles and throw him off the porch.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 06:43 PM (yoh1c)

44 And here is the CV of his successor, Jo Ann Rooney:

And probably carpet munching buddy of Lois Learner, this government makes me want to hurl or revolt or both

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 10:42 PM (HVff2)



I don't see anything that would qualify her to be Undersec of Kiddie Pools.

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2013 06:44 PM (doBIb)

45 As much as I love the military and was proud to wear the uniform...I am sooo glad I am out of the Navy. I have friends that are active duty and they said I wouldn't last very long due to the "PC" bullshit. That's probably a good thing. Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 10:40 PM (kVw0W) Well I'm still in and it's not that bad, well I mean yeah it's bad, but not like. Ah shit who am I kidding it's bad. Actually we tried to institute "Dereliction of Duty" charges against one of my Medical Officers and well since she is a she and also something else, we essentially got waived off.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 06:44 PM (9Xc5j)

46 Evening, all! Can someone please explain to me how the Oakland Raiders rated a Monday Night Football slot? If your'e going to have an AFC West showdown on MNF, why not the Broncos vs. the Chiefs? Something INTERESTING. Sheesh. Also, RE: the Ted Turner thing above. A man who wants more women in politics is a man who has no dick and probably has a self-inflicted vagina. Fuck him in his fucking fuckhole and I spit on his likely imminent grave.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 06:45 PM (CA2NO)

47 The more I read about Obama(don't)care, the more I think about how many songsrevolve around an out of control train. From "Casey Jones" to Jethro Tull's Locomotive Breath. Musical foreshadowing ?? Posted by: seamrog at September 23, 2013 10:37 PM (YuelC) A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoweoZ6jpM

Posted by: Ozzy Osbourne's last two remaining brain cells at September 23, 2013 06:45 PM (Vk2pI)

48 I don't see anything that would qualify her to be Undersec of Kiddie Pools. ----- I concur. I am the most qualified person for that job.

Posted by: Harry Reid at September 23, 2013 06:46 PM (GmTxn)

49 Seems like I recall something from one of those 'Mondo' movies, where the Lapp girls were castrating reindeer with their teeth.

I've avoided Lapp women since seeing that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 06:46 PM (aDwsi)

50 Chick, I am very glad you're out.  I can't even imagine the soul-sucking hard times that go with having this fuckin' fraud as a "C-in-C" 

Posted by: Peaches at September 23, 2013 06:47 PM (8lmkt)

51 Us Ice Wops are people to You Guys.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 23, 2013 06:47 PM (jucos)

52 Fuck him in his fucking fuckhole and I spit on his likely imminent grave. Via trampoline I bet

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 06:47 PM (HVff2)

53 Actually we tried to institute "Dereliction of Duty" charges against one of my Medical Officers and well since she is a she and also something else, we essentially got waved off. Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 10:44 PM (9Xc5j) PEOPLE YOU CAN COUNT ON IN TIMES OF STRIFE! Or not so much.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 06:47 PM (yoh1c)

54 I don't see anything that would qualify her to be Undersec of Kiddie Pools.

==========

Probably a great plutocrat/theoretician however.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 06:47 PM (aDwsi)

55 MWR! *Provides the frosting of your choice*

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 06:48 PM (vswPF)

56

Damn, Jewells ...I'd be a little pissed, too.  If it is any consolation, my Father asked me not to ask the doctor, (or himself), as many questions.  He felt like I was treating him like a child.

 

...very fine line, there.

 

He's fine BTW.  Blood pressure concerns have been resolved.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 06:48 PM (lq3Ak)

57 38 that's fuck YOU.. dammit I'm still so pissed I can't type. Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at September 23, 2013 10:40 PM (u25eL) I'm sorry you are going through this. My father (the oldest and most successful out of six children) had my grandmother placed in a top-rate retirement home, since his other siblings couldn't and wouldn't help with her care. Anyway, his two younger trifling ass sisters took her out of the home...just so they could have access to her money (I guess Social Security and Medicare were paying for her stay and my father paid for everything else). So they claimed she wanted to leave because she was lonely; she has dementia, is diabetic and has had multiple strokes. So my father told them they could pay for ALL her expenses that weren't covered by the money she was receiving from Social Security and Medicare. They are pissed off now. Anyway, families can be at their worst in times of a crisis. I will pray for you and your family. I hope things get better.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 06:49 PM (kVw0W)

58 I've avoided Lapp women since seeing that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 10:46 PM (aDwsi)


much appreciated . . .

Posted by: Teh bitchez of Lappland at September 23, 2013 06:49 PM (8lmkt)

59 Peaches.. she ain't all that really. Honestly.. she's a damn basket case. Think skinned.. cries at the drop of a hat. Gah!!

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at September 23, 2013 06:49 PM (u25eL)

60 George Harris played the bass?

Posted by: reno at September 23, 2013 06:49 PM (iu04B)

61 Yoko gets the money and spends it to trash fracking.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 23, 2013 06:49 PM (M32et)

62 MWR, now there's a nic I haven't seen in a while. How goes it dear lady?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 23, 2013 06:50 PM (GEICT)

63 Rooney sounds like everyone else Valerie appoints, loyal leftist machine apparatchiks.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 06:50 PM (yoh1c)

64 Scandis is sneaky little ice-rats. The worst ones are the tall female ones with their fur coats that they open up to reveal... Okay, you kids go to bed and I'll finish this story tomorrow.

Posted by: eman at September 23, 2013 06:50 PM (AO9UG)

65 Are you making that up? If true, it explains a lot about why Teddy is a wackadoodle.
Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 23, 2013 10:42 PM (bb5+k)


Well that and his well-known bipolar disorder.

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 23, 2013 06:50 PM (pAlYe)

66 Tom Kratman calls the leftist puke cabal "Tranzis" for Transnational Progressives. Got a great rant on his site about 'em. Oh wait, it was the hoard that turned me onto Kratman, wasn't it? Never mind.

Posted by: Chicagorefugee, currently in #twittergulag at September 23, 2013 06:50 PM (mOZnN)

67 Thanks Chick... I just keep hanging in there. I have been thru it all with mom. They haven't done shit. They don't know what they are getting into but I am more than willing to let them find out

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at September 23, 2013 06:52 PM (u25eL)

68 This kid Prior on the Raiders looks pretty promising

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 06:53 PM (9Xc5j)

69 Been there Jewell's, hang in there the best you can

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 06:53 PM (HVff2)

70 Peaches.. she ain't all that really. Honestly.. she's a damn basket case. Think skinned.. cries at the drop of a hat. Gah!!

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at September 23, 2013 10:49 PM (u25eL)


I know, buddy.  My mom went hard and fast coming up on 2 years now, and we all agreed it was best.  This long drawn-out stuff is not what we would wish for ourselves or for any loved one.  It's not them anymore and, yet, it is, and damn, I feel for you. 

Posted by: Peaches at September 23, 2013 06:53 PM (8lmkt)

71 BTW.. please don't misunderstand.. I love my mom very much, but she is VERY high maintenance. It's something I have known for years and I accept it. They just don't have a clue.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at September 23, 2013 06:53 PM (u25eL)

72 About those Lapp girls....
A quick search of YouTube, and, there it is.
Honestly..., I'm sorry that I thought of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fftnExG-WFg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 06:54 PM (aDwsi)

73 As much as I love the military and was proud to wear the uniform...I am sooo glad I am out of the Navy. I have friends that are active duty and they said I wouldn't last very long due to the "PC" bullshit. That's probably a good thing. Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 10:40 PM (kVw0W) *puts on tinfoil hat* People laugh at me when I say this, but I'm sure this is all deliberate. Make the military so intolerable to anyone who would join to serve for love of country and you end up with a military comprised of people who are there because they were put there by politicians or lured in with benefits and shiny things (like the repeal of DADA and the addition of women in combat roles). In other words, you go from a military that's populated with men and women who joined because they wanted to serve, and you end up with a military that's populated with men and women who joined because they wanted something special from Uncle Sugar. It's the Free Shit Armying of the US military. Which is why, when someone says, "The American military would never fire on fellow Americans, even if ordered to do so by this asshat CinC," I feel compelled to say, "The American military who love this country might not, but how many of them are being forced out due to the sheer incompetence and inanity of their leadership?" *spins propeller on top of tinfoil hat* This is actually quite fetching, don't you think? I like it. It's shiny.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 06:54 PM (CA2NO)

74 I never got over all the BJ's Jane gave to those Asian fellows.

Posted by: Ted Turner at September 23, 2013 06:55 PM (Aif/5)

75 Well I'm still in and it's not that bad, well I mean yeah it's bad, but not like. Ah shit who am I kidding it's bad. Actually we tried to institute "Dereliction of Duty" charges against one of my Medical Officers and well since she is a she and also something else, we essentially got waived off. Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 10:44 PM (9Xc5j) Do you think the Military can be repaired after this administration is done? I have always noticed the occurrence of what is called the "Liberal Ratchet effect." Things get moved left, but never get moved back.

Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 23, 2013 06:55 PM (bb5+k)

76 MWR! *Provides the frosting of your choice* Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 10:48 PM (vswPF) Ooooh. There's frosting? *perks up markedly* Yes please! I'll take whatever's on tap! Also, howdy, Vendette!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 06:56 PM (CA2NO)

77 Ooooh. There's frosting? *perks up markedly* Yes please! I'll take whatever's on tap! Also, howdy, Vendette! Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 10:56 PM (CA2NO) Pick what you want. I have a large selection.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 06:57 PM (vswPF)

78 Is Santa Claus a filthy Scandi Iceback? Sounds like it. Maybe a RINO too. Surely not a citizen of the US, so probably an illegal alien voting in one of our elections. So depressing. Is outing Santa Claus a bad thing?

Posted by: Low information Republican Squish at September 23, 2013 06:57 PM (v6hyJ)

79 A quick search of YouTube, and, there it is.
Honestly..., I'm sorry that I thought of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fftnExG-WFg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 10:54 PM (aDwsi)


Looks like they were going to break into song at the end....W   T   F?

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 06:57 PM (FIDMq)

80 Jewells , be strong . My mom had similar issues while caring for my grandmother . It is hard caring for parents especially when the rest of the family are not helpful . You are in my prayers 😇

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at September 23, 2013 06:59 PM (HsI7Q)

81 MWR, now there's a nic I haven't seen in a while. How goes it dear lady? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 23, 2013 10:50 PM (GEICT) Evening, sirrah! Work's been stupid busy lately, and during the evenings I've been working on crocheting and sewing and all that jazz, making Christmas gifts for my family. Gah. Why did I vow to make handmade things for everyone this year, when my skills are beginner at best? But in for a penny in for a pound! Yourself?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 06:59 PM (CA2NO)

82 Do you think the Military can be repaired after this administration is done? I have always noticed the occurrence of what is called the "Liberal Ratchet effect." Things get moved left, but never get moved back. Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 23, 2013 10:55 PM (bb5+k) Yes if the bleeding can be stopped, But if we do not take back the White House in 2016 I am not so sure. And some serious damage has been done.Someone like obama is out to ruin this Country and hagel is an idiot.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 06:59 PM (9Xc5j)

83 "Blacklist" show premiers tonight. James Spader plays some kinda Hannibal Lector (without the human eating stuff). looks good

Posted by: Eton Cox at September 23, 2013 07:00 PM (q177U)

84 30-14 Team Orange at the end of the 3rd quarter.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:01 PM (vswPF)

85 Pick what you want. I have a large selection. Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 10:57 PM (vswPF) Do you have something of a dark chocolate variety? jewells: *HUGE HUGS* I'd have probably put my head through a plate glass window by now out of sheer frustration.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:02 PM (CA2NO)

86 The military used to weed out freaks and losers.  Now they not only accept them and promote them; but put them in "teaching" positions.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 07:02 PM (lq3Ak)

87 Hagel an idiot? Really? It never occurred to me that he was that dumb. Is he really working for Obama? Besides.....he is or was a Republican, wasn't he? Just like John McCain? Such a swell bunch of guys, really.

Posted by: Low information Republican Squish at September 23, 2013 07:03 PM (v6hyJ)

88 McFadden throws a TD!! Yay Raiders

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 07:03 PM (vgd4f)

89 Yourself? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 10:59 PM (CA2NO) Eh. I'm here. Still breathing. Had some med issues lately. So booooo. But the Good Lord has seen fit to bless me with more days and beautiful children and a loving wife. So I try to remember to stay thankful.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 23, 2013 07:04 PM (GEICT)

90 Regarding Ace's Scandi hate, is he a closet Yooper? In Michigan's upper peninsula people tell ethnic jokes about Norwegians.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 23, 2013 07:05 PM (DpI6K)

91 Yes if the bleeding can be stopped, But if we do not take back the White House in 2016 I am not so sure. And some serious damage has been done.Someone like obama is out to ruin this Country and hagel is an idiot. Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 10:59 PM (9Xc5j) I'm not certain what has been done can be undone. The world of identity politics is loath to let special treatment go once it has been acquired. But if it can be undone at all, it will indeed have to wait for the next iteration of the Presidency. Hate to leave so soon after I got here, but Responsibilities called again. Damn the timing. Later peeps.

Posted by: Diogenes'Lamp at September 23, 2013 07:06 PM (bb5+k)

92 Do you have something of a dark chocolate variety? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 11:02 PM (CA2NO) *Shoves dark chocolate frosting through the overworked USB port*

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:06 PM (vswPF)

93 Do you have something of a dark chocolate variety?


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 11:02 PM (CA2NO)




Say no more, my sweet!  I'm here.

Posted by: Corey Booker at September 23, 2013 07:07 PM (doBIb)

94 Reindeer are tasty. Ribs BQ. Steaks medium rare. Hooves jello. Yum, yum.

Posted by: angel with a sword at September 23, 2013 07:07 PM (hpgw1)

95 Alright, I gotta bolt. Doc wasn't kidding about the meds making you sleepy. See you Rons and Ettes tomorrow.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 23, 2013 07:07 PM (GEICT)

96 RussiaÂ’s Top Islamic Clerics Threaten Wave Of Global Mayhem Unless Ban On Violent Translation Of The Koran Is Not OverturnedÂ… Wait, is there a non-violent version of the Koran? Weasel Zippers: Imagine a world without muslims

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 07:08 PM (9Xc5j)

97 #2. President Bartlet from The West Wing Wasn't Supposed to Be on the Show At All That escapade wasn't one of my shining moments in "guiding" humanity along the path...

Posted by: The Illusive Man at September 23, 2013 07:08 PM (Dsds2)

98 From the UK Daily Mail

For obvious reasons this story will not appear in any American MSM outlet

SAS hero of the mall massacre: Off duty soldier with a handgun saved 100 lives as terrorists ran amok

http://tinyurl.com/k938eao


Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2013 07:08 PM (/9IC1)

99 Later, BC.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 07:08 PM (lq3Ak)

100 Great ONT Maet, thanks!

When I would leave food on the plate I'd get the "there are starving kids in (Africa/Asia) that would love to get what you have."  My response was "OK let's pack it up and ship it to them."

Mom was not amused.

Posted by: NC Ref at September 23, 2013 07:09 PM (Myqtp)

101 From the UK Daily Mail For obvious reasons this story will not appear in any American MSM outlet SAS hero of the mall massacre: Off duty soldier with a handgun saved 100 lives as terrorists ran amok http://tinyurl.com/k938eao Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2013 11:08 PM (/9IC1) Yeah I saw that. Here he would be arrested and drummed out of the Military

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 07:09 PM (9Xc5j)

102 *Shoves dark chocolate frosting through the overworked USB port* Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 11:06 PM (vswPF) Thank you! Would you like some maple syrup in return? It's a bit hard to get through the USB, but I think I've got a funnel around here somewhere... BCochran: And we're all grateful that you choose to spend some of your time here with us. ^_^ Also, another Denver touchdown. I think I saw Eli in the stands throwing his big brother a thumbs up, but it got intercepted.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:09 PM (CA2NO)

103 45 As much as I love the military and was proud to wear the uniform...I am sooo glad I am out of the Navy. I have friends that are active duty and they said I wouldn't last very long due to the "PC" bullshit. That's probably a good thing. Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 10:40 PM (kVw0W) Well I'm still in and it's not that bad, well I mean yeah it's bad, but not like. Ah shit who am I kidding it's bad. Actually we tried to institute "Dereliction of Duty" charges against one of my Medical Officers and well since she is a she and also something else, we essentially got waived off. Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 10:44 PM (9Xc5j) I enlisted in August 1993 and watched in horror as the feminazis, the homosexuals and Clinton and Co. tried to make it like a high school club. I use to relish serving under the "salty dawgs" because there was a lot of pride, history and wisdom there. As time went one...everything became very politically correct. My personal favorite was when I was an instructor at Ft Huachuca and the students were issued "stress cards". Are you fucking kidding me? They students would tell me about how they had joined for the college money and to travel the world. I use to tell them they were going to travel alright, but when and where Uncle Sam sent you. Anyway, I understand your scenario as my Division Chief was a lesbian and made no secret about it. And when the Officer-in-Charge told her she could be put out for her behavior, she said she would claim harassment.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 07:09 PM (kVw0W)

104 Wow, this ont gonna make 200 comments?

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 07:10 PM (vgd4f)

105 *spins propeller on top of tinfoil hat* This is actually quite fetching, don't you think? I like it. It's shiny. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 10:54 PM (CA2NO) Woman walks down the street in that hat, people know she's not afraid of anything.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:12 PM (yoh1c)

106 Would you like some maple syrup in return? It's a bit hard to get through the USB, but I think I've got a funnel around here somewhere.. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 11:09 PM (CA2NO) I'm ashamed to say that I have some Vermont maple syrup and NY maple spread in my possession.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:12 PM (vswPF)

107 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2013 07:12 PM (JMmQ9)

108 Oh sure, it's easy to hate on the icebacks, it's like hating on smokers. Oooo, edgy. I mean they stink of wild herrings and whale oil for Pete's sake. But Pacific Islanders with their grass skirts and hula hoops, we need to keep an eye on them.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 23, 2013 07:12 PM (Zswg6)

109 Looks like MNF gambled and failed again.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:13 PM (vswPF)

110 The"let's bar all men from public office for 100 years" idea from Ted Turner isn't Turner's worst idea. That would be Captain Planet, *ugh*.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 23, 2013 07:14 PM (Dsds2)

111 I saw the resume comparisons for Undersecretary the other day and almost stroked out. Dude, you're acting as if it matters or something. Remember? Our biggest security threat in the Pacific is climate change. And if a few ... thousand ... of MY brave men & women get killed while fighting for ME, well, I'm sure that's a sacrifice they'll be only too happy to make. Forward!

Posted by: President Talk Show at September 23, 2013 07:14 PM (mOZnN)

112 "Laverne and Shirley" -- minor occasional characters on 'Happy Days' who got their own show, which became one of the top shows of the mid / late 1970s


( not a great era for television )



Posted by: Keyser Soze at September 23, 2013 07:14 PM (omBWL)

113 The"let's bar all men from public office for 100 years" idea from Ted Turner isn't Turner's worst idea. That would be Captain Planet, *ugh*. Posted by: Thrawn at September 23, 2013 11:14 PM (Dsds2) That means women would be in charge. Speaking as one, do you really want that? I wouldn't.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:15 PM (vswPF)

114 Woman walks down the street in that hat, people know she's not afraid of anything. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2013 11:12 PM (yoh1c) *buffs Hero of Canton merit badge*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:15 PM (CA2NO)

115 105  I can bring up Da Bears record and the h8red will be good for at least 50

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 07:16 PM (dwj/t)

116 Imagine no Paradise,
It's easy if you fly,
No virgins hump us,
And not a drop of rye,
Imagine all of Islam
without heavenly laysÂ…

Imagine there's no Koran,
It isnÂ’t hardly true,
Nothing to bomb or burn for,
No Ayatollahs too,
Imagine all of Islam
living the rule of lawÂ…

Imagine deserts blooming,
I wonder how Jews can,
Using soap and hot water,
Instead of toilet hand,
imagine all of Islam
Sparing the ferengi dogsÂ…

You may say IÂ’m an infidel,
but IÂ’m not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
When the West has really won.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 23, 2013 07:16 PM (K5R1m)

117 the mid / late 1970s ( not a great era for television ) Or American cars

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 07:16 PM (HVff2)

118 110 Looks like MNF gambled and failed again.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 11:13 PM (vswPF)


Can't be any worse than sending Jags and 49ers to London

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 07:16 PM (FIDMq)

119 Howdy Doody - Just a funny puppet, now WH Press Secretary

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 23, 2013 07:17 PM (aDwsi)

120 77 Ooooh. There's frosting? *perks up markedly* Yes please! I'll take whatever's on tap! Also, howdy, Vendette! Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 10:56 PM (CA2NO) Pick what you want. I have a large selection. Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 10:57 PM (vswPF) Ladies...I should be ashamed to admit this, but ever since I was a kid, I have LOVED eating those huge buttercream frosting flowers on cakes. Everyone cringes when I do it, but I just can't help it. And folks know they will get cut if I don't get said corner piece with the flowers.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 07:17 PM (kVw0W)

121 I can bring up Da Bears record and the h8red will be good for at least 50 Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 11:16 PM (dwj/t) As long as your spawn cheers for Navy, I'll deal with it.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:17 PM (vswPF)

122 I'm ashamed to say that I have some Vermont maple syrup and NY maple spread in my possession. Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 11:12 PM (vswPF) No shame in that! Though the lack of any NH maple in that list is truly a travesty. Here, have some maple candy from here in the Granite State. *shoves through USB*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:17 PM (CA2NO)

123

107  we have a quarter million gallons of molasses in our harbor

we just need a few tons of pancakes and wisconson to clear it

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 07:17 PM (dwj/t)

124 Well done andycanuck well done.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 07:18 PM (HVff2)

125 SAS hero of the mall massacre: Off duty soldier with a handgun saved 100 lives as terrorists ran amok Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2013 11:08 PM (/9IC1) You're right, our derelict press will almost certainly duck and dodge mightily to avoid that. Can't have The Narrative questioned. The new leftist motto: Whatever You Do, Don't Question Authority!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:18 PM (yoh1c)

126 Ladies...I should be ashamed to admit this, but ever since I was a kid, I have LOVED eating those huge buttercream frosting flowers on cakes. Everyone cringes when I do it, but I just can't help it. And folks know they will get cut if I don't get said corner piece with the flowers. Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 11:17 PM (kVw0W) If I could eat them without people looking at me like I'm insane, I would totally do the same thing, IBTC. lol!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:18 PM (CA2NO)

127 That political apointee at the Navy just chaps my ass. WTF is a tax layers doing at the Navy? Plus if that is her pic she is a mean old dried up cunt who hates people in uniform brb, drink is empty

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 07:18 PM (yh6zE)

128

122  As long as your spawn cheers for Navy, I'll deal with it.

 

but of course!!  she realizes the suck which is the army football team

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 07:19 PM (dwj/t)

129 Wow, this ont gonna make 200 comments? Posted by: lou's a girl If all the RINO commenters had not been driven off by this harshly critical blog, we would have many more comments at this time. We really need more RINO commenters here. And isn't Meghan McCain brilliant, after all?

Posted by: Low information Republican Squish at September 23, 2013 07:19 PM (v6hyJ)

130 Ladies...I should be ashamed to admit this, but ever since I was a kid, I have LOVED eating those huge buttercream frosting flowers on cakes. Everyone cringes when I do it, but I just can't help it. And folks know they will get cut if I don't get said corner piece with the flowers. Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 11:17 PM (kVw0W) You are not ashamed! *Shoves a container of Betty Crocker through the USB port* Buttercream all the way!

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:19 PM (vswPF)

131 Wonder how much money each MFN ref has on the broncos

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 07:19 PM (vgd4f)

132 "Looks like MNF gambled and failed again."

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 11:13 PM (vswPF)

Yeah... and you don't even need to check out OAK @ LAA, now that the A's have clinched.  Thanks Rangers!

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 07:19 PM (lq3Ak)

133 >>>>Are you making that up? If true, it explains a lot about why Teddy is a wackadoodle. >>>>

Nein. Gospel truth. Ted was too crazy for JANE FONDA. Think about that.

Pat Buchanan's father burned him with matches to show him what the pain of hellfire was like. To this day, Pat calls his father "the finest man I ever knew."

Having grown up with a two-fisted father myself, I sympathize with these poor fucks who can't admit to themselves that their dads were monsters.

I sympathize, but only up to a certain point. If you don't repudiate the guy, you end of replicating what he did. Ted was extremely controlling of Jane, to a psychotic degree. He's a basket case. That always happens when you don't admit the truth to yourself.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 07:21 PM (TJw7K)

134 127 Ladies...I should be ashamed to admit this, but ever since I was a kid, I have LOVED eating those huge buttercream frosting flowers on cakes. Everyone cringes when I do it, but I just can't help it. And folks know they will get cut if I don't get said corner piece with the flowers. Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 11:17 PM (kVw0W) If I could eat them without people looking at me like I'm insane, I would totally do the same thing, IBTC. lol! Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 11:18 PM (CA2NO) *Shoves huge buttercream frosting flowers through USB port*

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 07:22 PM (kVw0W)

135 Amen on winging it onstage..

I started out playing bass..  and it is fairly easy to figure out the chord progressions - at least enough to get by - as long as you have a good guitarist helping you out.

It's a lot harder if you are also the lead singer.

I have to give a shout out to musicians who play a lot.

Posted by: Preznit Big Balls Gonna Blow U Up! at September 23, 2013 07:22 PM (AYOav)

136 What is this iOS7 crap? Did I teach you people nothing about graphic design? I swear if you even start to say "The app developers love it" I will pop you right in the mouth with my zombie hand.

Posted by: Zombie Steve Jobs at September 23, 2013 07:22 PM (bKA83)

137 Ladies...I should be ashamed to admit this, but ever since I was a kid, I have LOVED eating those huge buttercream frosting flowers on cakes. Everyone cringes when I do it, Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 11:17 PM (kVw0W) Wow, I honestly believe I have never cringed because someone else ate something they liked. Unless it was live goldfish or three-scream rat or something. Buttercream frosting? Does it come in half-gallon tubs?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:22 PM (yoh1c)

138 Can't be any worse than sending Jags and 49ers to London Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 11:16 PM (FIDMq) Oh God, tell me you're kidding. I mean, the 49ers okay, but... the Jaguars? Really? Why the hell are we sending them to London? Did the NFL think they'd suddenly be GOOD this season or something? Was the entire NFL smoking an enormous rock of crack when it made that decision? I'm pretty sure the Jaguars would suffer a crushing defeat playing flag football against my hometown high school's JV girls field hockey team.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:23 PM (CA2NO)

139 Buttercream flowers unite!

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:23 PM (vswPF)

140 131 Ladies...I should be ashamed to admit this, but ever since I was a kid, I have LOVED eating those huge buttercream frosting flowers on cakes. Everyone cringes when I do it, but I just can't help it. And folks know they will get cut if I don't get said corner piece with the flowers. Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 11:17 PM (kVw0W) You are not ashamed! *Shoves a container of Betty Crocker through the USB port* Buttercream all the way! Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 11:19 PM (vswPF) Thank you Vendette! *Happily enjoying the buttercream frosting*

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 07:23 PM (kVw0W)

141 >>>>For obvious reasons this story will not appear in any American MSM outlet

SAS hero of the mall massacre: Off duty soldier with a handgun saved 100 lives as terrorists ran amok >>>>

In another article, they posted a huge, unpixelated version of that photo. Same newspaper. It's still up. There's no way to contact them to tell them to take it down.

Assholes.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 07:24 PM (TJw7K)

142 What's the refs name, Jerome Booger. What's with the lisp?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 07:24 PM (HVff2)

143 >>>>Are you making that up? If true, it explains a lot about why Teddy is a wackadoodle. >>>> You can tell alot about a man by his mustache, and Ted Turner has a complete 'I'm a fucko' mustache

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 07:24 PM (yh6zE)

144 That is NOT Santa You Guys..... That is Burl Ives in that jumpsuit.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 23, 2013 07:24 PM (jucos)

145 "I'm pretty sure the Jaguars would suffer a crushing defeat playing flag football against my hometown high school's JV girls field hockey team."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist)

They gave us soccer.  Screw them.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 07:24 PM (lq3Ak)

146 All that Scandi hate without mentioning the true horror they foist upon the world, footwear so terrible that its very name became something of a curse in English: the scandal, a sort of Laplander Birkenstock.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 23, 2013 07:24 PM (U82Km)

147 *Shoves huge buttercream frosting flowers through USB port* Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 11:22 PM (kVw0W) *shoves huge buttercream frosting flowers throu-* Whoops! I think they intercepted each other in mid-shove! *cleans sugary goodness away from around USB port and tries again*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:25 PM (CA2NO)

148 Oh, and really stellar ONT, Maetenloch. Sorry I forgot to mention it earlier.

Posted by: Chicagorefugee, currently in #twittergulag at September 23, 2013 07:25 PM (mOZnN)

149 Gentlemen, a piece of advice while I watch Denver finish off the Raiders: A lady with buttercream frosting of her choice is a happy lady.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:25 PM (vswPF)

150 149  what part of Chicago?

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 07:26 PM (dwj/t)

151 Oh God, tell me you're kidding. I mean, the 49ers okay, but... the Jaguars? Really? Why the hell are we sending them to London? Did the NFL think they'd suddenly be GOOD this season or something? Was the entire NFL smoking an enormous rock of crack when it made that decision?


I'm pretty sure the Jaguars would suffer a crushing defeat playing flag football against my hometown high school's JV girls field hockey team.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 11:23 PM (CA2NO)



Sunday, Oct 27.

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 07:26 PM (FIDMq)

152 Gentlemen, a piece of advice while I watch Denver finish off the Raiders: A lady with buttercream frosting of her choice is a happy lady. Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 11:25 PM (vswPF) I second this emotion.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:26 PM (CA2NO)

153 Are people still hanging out in the thread with the ette boobs?

Posted by: CAC at September 23, 2013 07:26 PM (KZTw3)

154

the train, it won't stop goin' , tho it should slow down

Whoa-whoaaaaaaaaah !

Posted by: seamrog at September 23, 2013 07:27 PM (YuelC)

155 Any people who would store their fish in Red Devil Lye should be hated. Dumb fuckers lightly breaded & pan fry it.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 07:27 PM (HVff2)

156

150   A lady with buttercream frosting of her choice is a happy lady.

 

'buttercream frosting"

 

I think you spelled 'ncj in an elephant thong' wrong

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 07:27 PM (dwj/t)

157 Wow, I honestly believe I have never cringed because someone else ate something they liked. Unless it was live goldfish or three-scream rat or something. Buttercream frosting? Does it come in half-gallon tubs? Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2013 11:22 PM (yoh1c) Hi Merovign! If it does, I haven't seen it. And if it does...the ONT crew are going to be in trouble with a bunch if us jacked up on buttercream frosting.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 07:27 PM (kVw0W)

158 >>>>You can tell alot about a man by his mustache, and Ted Turner has a complete 'I'm a fucko' mustache >>>>

Absolutely right. Shaving the top part of your lip to give you a weird little caterpillar right above your mouth is creepy.

Ted's got a John Waters 'stache. Yuck-o.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 07:27 PM (TJw7K)

159 154 Are people still hanging out in the thread with the ette boobs? Posted by: CAC at September 23, 2013 11:26 PM (KZTw3) details.... and the post # por favor

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 07:27 PM (yh6zE)

160 If anyone wants a humorous primer on Scandis/Nordics, at least how they view each other and the rest of the world, check out the "Scandinavia and the World" comic.  It's done by a Danish chick, and she pulls no punches with any of the countries.

Link: http://satwcomic.com/

For the record, I have a few drops of Finn and I must admit, the Finn character reminds me of me.  I even look like him.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 23, 2013 07:28 PM (T7XIT)

161 Gawd this country is so fucked up. I think my head may explode. Otherwise everything is just fine

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 07:28 PM (cSHCI)

162 Sunday, Oct 27. Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 11:26 PM (FIDMq) *facepalm* Well, maybe the Jags will have a bit of an advantage since they won't have AS MUCH jet lag as the 49ers... Nah.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:28 PM (CA2NO)

163 Are people still hanging out in the thread with the ette boobs?

Posted by: CAC at September 23, 2013 11:26 PM (KZTw3)

_____________________

Wait.... What?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 23, 2013 07:29 PM (jucos)

164
   Something to ponder for any off you who are in uniform and sickened by the current state of affairs--

         DON'T QUIT.

   Stay the course, the service will need you after Obama is a cringeworthy memory.  With proper leadership, the military heals rapidly.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2013 07:30 PM (SAMxH)

165 If the Vikings were around today, they would probably be amazed at how much glow-in-the-dark stuff we have, and how we take so much of it for granted. -- Deep Thoughts, by Jack HandeyI bet when they weren't fighting, Vikings with horn helmets had to stick potatoes on the ends of the horns, so as to avoid eye pokings to fellow Vikings and lady Vikings. -- Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey When the age of the Vikings came to a close, they must have sensed it. Probably, they gathered together one evening, slapped each other on the back and said, "Hey, good job." -- Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey

Posted by: Jack Handey Fan at September 23, 2013 07:30 PM (8s1SO)

166

You can tell alot about a man by his mustache

 

ugggggh, what about a certain sport team's fans' mandatory 80's porn mustache

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 07:30 PM (dwj/t)

167 Those miserable fucks on my CBS local news pretty much just ran Pederast Reid's comments about how the American people will know "that radical Republican fanatics are the ones shutting down the government" with absolutely no additional information or explanation of what is really happening. Traitorous SCUM.

Posted by: Gem at September 23, 2013 07:30 PM (zw+pb)

168 I think you spelled 'ncj in an elephant thong' wrong Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 11:27 PM (dwj/t) *scrubs brain!*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:30 PM (CA2NO)

169 Any people who would store their fish in Red Devil Lye should be hated. Dumb fuckers lightly breaded & pan fry it.>>

You've never been offered real lutefisk at a holiday gathering. Sweet lord if it only was fried with breading.

Posted by: Mohamed at September 23, 2013 07:30 PM (rrjRO)

170 I think you spelled 'ncj in an elephant thong' wrong Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 11:27 PM (dwj/t) "Honey, newly-minted Commander, USN, whose uniforms I iron, I have an issue".

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:30 PM (vswPF)

171 Progress report: I've scanned the post, and the comments up to mine back at 96 or something, and I see there's been more comments posted in the meantime. How unexpected! I think I may have to go before I get back again. Why can't we have the ONT in the afternoon?

Posted by: mindful webworker - fading faster than reading at September 23, 2013 07:31 PM (U13jb)

172 Opps last nights sock at 170

Posted by: The Hickster at September 23, 2013 07:31 PM (rrjRO)

173 Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 11:27 PM (kVw0W) if = of Stupid auto correct. By the way, does anyone know how to do bold and/or italic text on an iPad? Is it even possible? And I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY dislike ios7.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 07:32 PM (kVw0W)

174 I don't get all the Scandi hate. Wife and I drive Volvos. We eat lingonberries. And everything in the house came from Ikea.

Posted by: CAC at September 23, 2013 07:32 PM (KZTw3)

175 How can anyone justify spending 1/4 of their income, about 15k $ a year for insurance? My mortgage is less than that. I am really pissed at John Roberts. He is one thing that really is Bush's fault.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 07:33 PM (cSHCI)

176 163 Sunday, Oct 27.
Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 11:26 PM (FIDMq)



*facepalm*


Well, maybe the Jags will have a bit of an advantage since they won't have AS MUCH jet lag as the 49ers...

Nah.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 11:28 PM (CA2NO)


Holy shit, just saw this...The Jaguars will play in London for 4 consecutive seasons beginning in 2013. 

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 07:33 PM (FIDMq)

177

165  With proper leadership, the military heals rapidly.

 

no need, as long as the military has their E7-9's, they are good

the US armed forces will thrive regardless of hack or any political party

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 07:33 PM (dwj/t)

178 WHY? WHY would the NFL do this to the poor, hapless Raiders? This has got to be one of the more boring MNFs I've ever seen.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:33 PM (CA2NO)

179 "Are people still hanging out in the thread with the ette boobs?

Posted by: CAC at September 23, 2013 11:26 PM (KZTw3)"



Wait, what?

Posted by: holygoat at September 23, 2013 07:34 PM (HYFht)

180 Oh God, tell me you're kidding. I mean, the 49ers okay, but... the Jaguars? Really? Why the hell are we sending them to London? Did the NFL think they'd suddenly be GOOD this season or something? Was the entire NFL smoking an enormous rock of crack when it made that decision? I'm pretty sure the Jaguars would suffer a crushing defeat playing flag football against my hometown high school's JV girls field hockey team. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 11:23 PM (CA2NO) NFL just greasing the skids on the Jags leaving Jacksonville. The guy who bought the Jags would love to move the team, and it looks like either London or LA will be the destinations.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 23, 2013 07:34 PM (BXLPR)

181 Once again Nearsider is not here to comfort MWR in her time of need.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:35 PM (vswPF)

182 Lutefisk makes me gag.

Posted by: maggot at September 23, 2013 07:35 PM (L0FeS)

183 I officially hate bronco fans, worst in the NFL

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 07:35 PM (vgd4f)

184 The guy who bought the Jags would love to move the team, and it looks like either London or LA will be the destinations. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 23, 2013 11:34 PM (BXLPR) The only thing stupider than London is Toronto.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:35 PM (vswPF)

185 Holy shit, just saw this...The Jaguars will play in London for 4 consecutive seasons beginning in 2013 Their owner did it for the money. Jaxville doesn't sell out, very near the bottom in merchandise, etc, etc.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 07:35 PM (HVff2)

186 Hi Merovign! If it does, I haven't seen it. And if it does...the ONT crew are going to be in trouble with a bunch if us jacked up on buttercream frosting. Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 11:27 PM (kVw0W) Yeah this is me stuffing money into the USB port on the assumption that will get me a webcam view of ettes jacked up on buttercream frosting. Seriously if we ever get a major meetup I make it to I'm bringing a huge sack of candy.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:36 PM (yoh1c)

187 NFL just greasing the skids on the Jags leaving Jacksonville. The guy who bought the Jags would love to move the team, and it looks like either London or LA will be the destinations. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 23, 2013 11:34 PM (BXLPR) As much as I would love for a NFL team to come to LA...I can already imagine what the crowds would be like. Sigh...

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 07:36 PM (kVw0W)

188 Lutefisk makes me gag. Posted by: maggot at September 23, 2013 11:35 PM (L0FeS) Panda sure hits the spot though

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 07:36 PM (yh6zE)

189 Bite me MWR

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 07:36 PM (vgd4f)

190 "He is one thing that really is Bush's fault."
Posted by: Freaked Out!

-Nationalized Public Education
-Mediacre Part "D"
-No foresight when crafting The Patriot Act.

...I could go on, but those are big enough.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 07:36 PM (lq3Ak)

191

187  Yeah this is me stuffing money into the USB port on the assumption that will get me a webcam view of ettes jacked up on buttercream frosting

 

be careful, the thong is out

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 07:37 PM (dwj/t)

192 heheh eh heh... "huge sack"... heheh eh heheh

Posted by: beavis at September 23, 2013 07:37 PM (9gNQd)

193 You can tell alot about a man by his mustache, and Ted Turner has a complete 'I'm a fucko' mustache To be fair, Turner seems to have done better by his own son. As I recall, he primaried for congress - in VA maybe? He ran as a Republican. A conservative Republican. So ... fewer daddy issues?

Posted by: Chicagorefugee, currently in #twittergulag at September 23, 2013 07:38 PM (mOZnN)

194 Holy shit, just saw this...The Jaguars will play in London for 4 consecutive seasons beginning in 2013. Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 11:33 PM (FIDMq) Oh sweet Jesus on a Christmas cracker. *headdesk* I thought the whole point of holding a game in London every year was to try and broaden the game's appeal to a global audience? How does sending a trumped up middle school varsity touch football team across the pond to be pounded into a fine red mist by an ACTUAL football team accomplish that? This is Europe, FFS. They go insane and beat people up when their favorite soccer teams spend three hours playing to a thrilling TIE. I don't think watching the Jags get repeatedly shellacked by thirty or forty points four years in a row is going to offer the same excitement.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:38 PM (CA2NO)

195 Holy shit, just saw this...The Jaguars will play in London for 4 consecutive seasons beginning in 2013. Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 11:33 PM It's 2013 now.

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2013 07:38 PM (JMmQ9)

196 Mmmmm, panda.

Posted by: maggot at September 23, 2013 07:38 PM (L0FeS)

197 Uh Oh. Where do I find the barrel?

Posted by: Chicagorefugee, currently in #twittergulag at September 23, 2013 07:38 PM (mOZnN)

198 "I officially hate bronco fans, worst in the NFL

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 11:35 PM (vgd4f)"



Philly.

Posted by: Santa Claus at September 23, 2013 07:39 PM (HYFht)

199 TD Oakland. Not that being down by 16 points with 1:15 left is a big deal.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:39 PM (vswPF)

200 Yeah this is me stuffing money into the USB port on the assumption that will get me a webcam view of ettes jacked up on buttercream frosting. Seriously if we ever get a major meetup I make it to I'm bringing a huge sack of candy. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2013 11:36 PM (yoh1c) Merovign...it's not nice to tempt me with sweet things.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 07:39 PM (kVw0W)

201 Mmmmm, maggots.

Posted by: honey badger at September 23, 2013 07:39 PM (L0FeS)

202 It's 2013 now.

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2013 11:38 PM (JMmQ9)


Correct, and they play in London in October

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 07:40 PM (FIDMq)

203 Their owner did it for the money. Jaxville doesn't sell out, very near the bottom in merchandise, etc, etc. Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 11:35 PM (HVff2) \ It's like a real life version of "Major League."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:40 PM (CA2NO)

204 The Bush legacy has brought us BO. No way I would encourage anyone to go into the military nowadays. It's humiliating.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 07:41 PM (cSHCI)

205 Yep, Elway has had work done.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:41 PM (vswPF)

206 The thread with the ette boobs

--- says CAC, with a BOSEG...
You know, the 'ette boobs were supposed to not show up until this thread, but A Certain Party couldn't "keep it in her pants" so to speak, just had to 'wail 'em out, deliver on a promise, and now all the others are, uh, cowed, or something.

With a little proper management, we could have been drooling all over two, mebbe three ettes sets, but now Miss Published Another Novel gets all the drool to herself. Hmmf.

Worth it, though. Dang, wottawoman.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 23, 2013 07:41 PM (JNUY4)

207 Craig's List Murders is quite a read.

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2013 07:41 PM (z9HTb)

208 Sheesh, Elway reminds me of Biden.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:41 PM (vswPF)

209 "Murder by Craigslist"

Somebody probably already said this, but it sounds almost like a modern-day real-life update of "The Shining."

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 07:42 PM (xY8+2)

210 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 23, 2013 11:40 PM (CA2NO) Wild Thing was on the radio today & I thought of that movie & Charlie Sheen. Bob Uecker was awesome doing play by play

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 07:42 PM (HVff2)

211 The Vikings and Steelers are in London this coming Sunday....2 0-suck teams, nice.

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 23, 2013 07:42 PM (FIDMq)

212 A big turd reminds me of Biden.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 07:42 PM (cSHCI)

213 Yes, London could use some new and exotic circuses. The plebes rioted last year, after all.

Posted by: Chicagorefugee, currently in #twittergulag at September 23, 2013 07:42 PM (mOZnN)

214 Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 23, 2013 11:41 PM (JNUY4) Once again, stick it in your ear.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:43 PM (vswPF)

215

well, heading out to do two vip runs

as a horrible teaser, (and to those in the know pls don't tell them) but speaking of thongs......

at one time or another, the vast majority of all of you have seen my better half in one

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 07:43 PM (dwj/t)

216 Sheesh, Elway reminds me of Biden. Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 11:41 PM (vswPF) Does he have a drool cup, too?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:43 PM (CA2NO)

217 Well at least a bunch of bronco fans, and the refs lost money I will take comfort in that, why yes I will

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 07:43 PM (vgd4f)

218 It's like a real life version of "Major League.">>

They wont win a game then since the puzzle piece reveal of the naked cutout will be less of an incentive.

Posted by: The Hickster at September 23, 2013 07:43 PM (rrjRO)

219 Are people still hanging out in the thread with the ette boobs?Posted by: CAC at September 23, 2013 11:26 PM (KZTw3) _____________________Wait.... What? Naw, I'm not falling for that. It'll be Helen Thomas in a bikini or something. Seriously, though, they're coming to take me away. Ha haaaaa..a.a.a.a..a.. ::runs away cackling with sirens in the background:: ::but not before grabbing a buttercream flower off the cake on the buffet::

Posted by: mindful webworker - echoing Truck Monkey at September 23, 2013 07:43 PM (U13jb)

220 So we could go on for dozens of posts on how the new lady at the Navy has not had 'direct semen injection therapy' since President Ford was in office.......... but why the fuck would a tax accountant/attorney want to be a political appointee at Navy. I'll bet she can't tell the diffrence between a Tin Can and a destroyer WE_ARE_SO_FUCKED_!

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 07:44 PM (yh6zE)

221 Off duty officer with handgun returns again and again to save a 100 lives in Kenyan mall attack: http://tinyurl.com/k938eao

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2013 07:44 PM (a4Omg)

222 "Bob Uecker was awesome doing play by play."
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian

He was the glue in that movie.

*Dabs Jack Daniels behind ear*

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 07:44 PM (lq3Ak)

223 F*ck da police (at least this officer, if the pics are genuine) FED-UP NY MAN SETS UP HIDDEN CAMERA TO FIND OUT WHO WAS REPEATEDLY STEALING HIS PRO-GUN SIGN – WHAT HE DISCOVERED BLEW HIM AWAY http://tinyurl.com/kjv8sb3

Posted by: Thrawn at September 23, 2013 07:44 PM (Dsds2)

224 Wild Thing was on the radio today & I thought of that movie & Charlie Sheen. Bob Uecker was awesome doing play by play Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 11:42 PM (HVff2) LOVE "Major League." One of my favorite 80s movies, and probably my favorite sports-themed movies. Everyone's great in that movie. Uecker's play by play was definitely the highlight, though. "Juuuuust a bit outside." LOVE.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:45 PM (CA2NO)

225 And yes Vendette we heard you the first 29 times, the raiders suck, sheesh

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 07:45 PM (vgd4f)

226 154 Are people still hanging out in the thread with the ette boobs? Posted by: CAC at September 23, 2013 11:26 PM (KZTw3) --- I'm hanging out in my bed with my own boobs. Good evening, Horde. Got into it with my mom about gun control today. Yeah.

Posted by: Gingy at September 23, 2013 07:46 PM (jt8G9)

227 I think there is a kickball, badminton,  or hockey team named the Jaguars in London. It isn't a real sports team.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 23, 2013 07:46 PM (0axsw)

228

226   we heard you the first 29 times, the raiders suck, sheesh

 

but Da BEARS are 3-0!!!!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 07:46 PM (dwj/t)

229 How can you be worried about the Scandis when those horrible Albanians are running around? Check out this documentary:

y2u.be/5WJAwNiA7_M


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2013 07:46 PM (IN7k+)

230 Merovign...it's not nice to tempt me with sweet things. Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 11:39 PM (kVw0W) Hey, we use the tools we have.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:47 PM (yoh1c)

231 "Da Bearsss!!!"

- from back when SNL was good sometimes

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 07:47 PM (xY8+2)

232 And yes Vendette we heard you the first 29 times, the raiders suck, sheesh Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 11:45 PM (vgd4f) Crap. lou's: Officially, despondently, didn't mean to make you feel that way.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:47 PM (vswPF)

233 Good evening, Horde. Got into it with my mom about gun control today. Yeah. Posted by: Gingy at September 23, 2013 11:46 PM (jt8G9) let me guess she has no guns and you do? you own a gun right? all mo-rons need to own a firearm and booze to my way of thinking

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 07:49 PM (yh6zE)

234 "Da Bearsss!!!" - from back when SNL was good sometimes Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:47 PM (xY8+2) They were still writing with blackened twigs scratched across bits of birch bark back then, right? The bright spot for the Raiders tonight was Prior (Pryor?). He's definitely got potential to be a great QB.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/b][/u] at September 23, 2013 07:50 PM (CA2NO)

235 Sorry Vendette, just being a bitch

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 07:50 PM (vgd4f)

236 Sorry Vendette, just being a bitch Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 11:50 PM (vgd4f) And I feel bad if I made anyone feel crappy.

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:51 PM (vswPF)

237 MWR, they were writing their sketches with those... or Apple Newtons.

(let's see if anyone gets the reference after all these years)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 07:51 PM (xY8+2)

238 I'll bet she can't tell the diffrence between a Tin Can and a destroyer
Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 11:44 PM (yh6zE)

Two tin cans from Pearl with crawdads.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 23, 2013 07:51 PM (M32et)

239 So, this is some sort of sign of The End Times.

I do freelance. For two partners in a firm. Have never met either in person.

Well, I work with Boss A 75% of the time, Boss B, 25% of the time. Boss A has been stressed, and the other day, got all pissy over something innocuous I said RE: Boss B. Went on a bit of tirade.

Gist of it: I am kind ruining the bromance between them. Boss A does not like the fact that Boss B and I get along so easily. Here is a rundown:

Boss A: drives an Audi, trophy wife, was in therapy for a long time
Boss B: drinks tequila, likes funny hats and is always good for an amusing anecdote.

I am totally screwed, and have resigned myself to the fact that I can never be within 250 miles of either of them if I want to keep receiving a paycheck.

Without even doing anything, I have somehow screwed with the minds of two men that I have never been in the same state with.

At least, that's what it seems like.

Apocalypse Today baby.

Posted by: shibumi (who is actually female)) at September 23, 2013 07:53 PM (25HWz)

240 "(let's see if anyone gets the reference after all these years)"
Posted by: qdpsteve

Yes, yes... Apple, Newton, Gravity, Tree, Liberty, Blood...

....whoops!  Went a little far with that.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 07:53 PM (lq3Ak)

241 No, it was my Raiders that did that, I took it out on you. Gonna go watch dvr'd The Middle episodes. Night

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 07:53 PM (vgd4f)

242 OK, I'm out Tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2013 07:53 PM (JMmQ9)

243
   Still basking in the glow of 31-7 for my  Cowboys.

    Cold reality says they will go 7-9, with luck.

    I miss Landry.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2013 07:54 PM (SAMxH)

244 Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 11:53 PM (vgd4f) Good night Lou! Hope you have a good day tomorrow!

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 07:54 PM (vswPF)

245 shibumi, sounds a tiny bit like the clusterf*** that got me fired from my last job.

Long story extremely short, a co-worker of mine (an extremely attractive Persian psychologist) got pissed at me because she thought I was staring at her.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 07:54 PM (xY8+2)

246 You too Vendette!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at September 23, 2013 07:55 PM (vgd4f)

247 Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 11:49 PM (yh6zE) If a moron doesn't own a gun Caracal Model C's are dirt cheap now. You might lose a hand, but whatever. Jk-if any morons own one there is a major recall.

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 07:55 PM (WrDFV)

248 Slapweasel: here's a clue...

"Eat up Martha."

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 07:55 PM (xY8+2)

249 Newtons were the predecessor to this amazing slab of plastic and glass I am holding. Crawdads! Yehaw! Let's take some to Mrs Drysdale!

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 07:56 PM (cSHCI)

250 And Freaked Out! wins the Chicken Dinner with an Extra Side of Ranch-flavored Hate at Chik-Fil-A. Congratulations!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 07:57 PM (xY8+2)

251 249 Slapweasel: here's a clue...

"Eat up Martha."

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:55 PM (xY8+2)

Simpsons.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 23, 2013 07:57 PM (M32et)

252 234 Good evening, Horde. Got into it with my mom about gun control today. Yeah. Posted by: Gingy at September 23, 2013 11:46 PM (jt8G9) let me guess she has no guns and you do? you own a gun right? all mo-rons need to own a firearm and booze to my way of thinking Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 11:49 PM (yh6zE) --- Yep. There's going to be an addition to the family soon, too. Pewpew!

Posted by: Gingy at September 23, 2013 07:58 PM (jt8G9)

253 Posted by: qdpsteve

Wasn't that on the Simpsons?

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 07:58 PM (lq3Ak)

254 Bertram, you're on the right track. It's the punchline to a joke about the item I'm alluding to.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 07:58 PM (xY8+2)

255 Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:54 PM

I'm at this WTF place right now- which I'm sure you were as well.

Basically, I have to be super nice to the one that's been an ass to me to get him all secure, and tone it down with the one I really get on well with because it will threaten the other.

WTF?

I need to google "jobs for people who must work alone"..

Posted by: shibumi (who is actually female)) at September 23, 2013 07:58 PM (25HWz)

256 MWR, they were writing their sketches with those... or Apple Newtons.

At least you can recharge an Apple Newton.  Fig Newtons, not so much.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 23, 2013 07:59 PM (JawqV)

257 It was supposed to be "beat up Martin" but the Newton always screwed stuff up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 23, 2013 07:59 PM (M32et)

258 You guys are just faster than me, and that'll be something I'll deal with the rest of my life.

*kicks dirt*

...stupid, quick-ass horde!

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 07:59 PM (lq3Ak)

259 Speaking of bad garage bands, the music channel AXS has a Zep tribute band on right now (Ledzepagain). The music is pretty close, the look is good (even with a Japanese "Jimmy Page"), but the Plant impersonator is wearing a horrible lace wig and is screeching in a sandpapery, nasal falsetto. You may say, that's sort of authentic.........not here. Plant should sue him for defamation.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 23, 2013 08:00 PM (jSmN1)

260 shibumi, there you go. :-)

Alls I knows is, at my next job, I am going to go out of my way to NOT 'get to know' my co-workers, especially young female ones. I'll be cordial and professional and get my job done, and that's it.

At this point, I'm beyond sick of people who bring High School to work with them every day.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 08:00 PM (xY8+2)

261 Why thank ya steve. * Devours chicken greedily * urp

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 08:00 PM (cSHCI)

262 Yep. There's going to be an addition to the family soon, too. Pewpew! Posted by: Gingy at September 23, 2013 11:58 PM (jt8G9) c'mon you got to spill it. I just acquired a S&W M&P22 today. It came with one mag. There are no other mags available, I called S&W about ordering some and they could not give me a backorder date...

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:01 PM (yh6zE)

263 Time for bed. Good night, all!

Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 08:01 PM (vswPF)

264 Now I got greasy fingerprints all over my tablet.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 08:01 PM (cSHCI)

265 Maddow is in a tizzy that Issa posted a picture of the Dems leaving the Benghazi hearings.

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 08:02 PM (WrDFV)

266 How can you be worried about the Scandis when those horrible Albanians are running around? Check out this documentary: y2u.be/5WJAwNiA7_M Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 23, 2013 11:46 PM (IN7k+) SOON

Posted by: King Zog at September 23, 2013 08:02 PM (Vk2pI)

267 Later, Vendette.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 08:02 PM (lq3Ak)

268 And you guys have pretty much solved my puzzle.

Back in the 1980s/90s I was a huge Apple fan. I actually wanted an Apple Newton for quite a while. Then I wanted an iMac, then an iPhone.

Now I just want an HTC One. If I ever have the extra money I'll get a Mac to maybe do some video editing on, but that's about the extent of my Apple fixation any more.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 08:02 PM (xY8+2)

269 In retrospect, the only President worse than George W. Bush is Barack Hussein Obama.

Bush was a good man at heart, terrible President.

Obama is not a good man and he is a horrific President.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 08:03 PM (Srkkh)

270 These are the greatest "singles" groups in all of rock history.  Some  (many!) of them also had great albums, but these are groups who are primarily set aside by the quality of their singles, many of which were often not released on albums.  I'm going to skip the obvious UK trifecta of The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, and The Who, for the simple reason that those three groups put out a singles discography so formidable, so unbeatable, as to stop the conversation cold before it even begins. 

(And if you disagree, let's just run through the best NON-ALBUM singles from those three bands -- that is, tracks that we reflexively associate with them but which never even made it onto one of their proper albumsThe Beatles: "She Loves You," "I Want To Hold Your Hand," "I Feel Fine," "We Can Work It Out," "Paperback Writer," "Strawberry Fields Forever"/"Penny Lane," "All You Need Is Love," "Hello, Goodbye," "Hey Jude"; The Rolling Stones: "I Wanna Be Your Man," "It's All Over Now," "The Last Time," "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction," "Get Off Of My Cloud," "19th Nervous Breakdown," "Paint It, Black," "Let's Spend The Night Together," "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadow?," "We Love You," "Jumpin' Jack Flash," "Honky Tonk Women"; The Who: "I Can't Explain," "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere," "Substitute," "I'm A Boy," "Happy Jack," "Pictures Of Lily," "Dogs," "Magic Bus," "The Seeker," "Let's See Action," "Join Together," "Relay.")

Okay, so after that throat-clearing parenthetical -- and if you consider yourself a fan of rock music but haven't heard every single one of the songs I just named, it's time to reconsider -- here are the REST of the best singles acts in history:

- The Beach Boys
- The Hollies
- The Smiths
- The Zombies
- Creedence Clearwater Revival
- The Buzzcocks
- New Order
- The Jam
- Jethro Tull (1968-1971)
- The Kinks
- Pavement
- Suede
- Radiohead

Anyone disagree?  Well then FUCK YOU, by which I mean please tell me why I'm wrong! ;-) 

And happy ONT everyone.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 08:04 PM (n/+FT)

271 Keep you forgot jimmy carter, ugh

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 08:04 PM (HVff2)

272 Aaaand it's officially official: Jeff B. is *the* inaugural Ace Of Spades Modern Music Critic. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 08:05 PM (xY8+2)

273 Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 24, 2013 12:01 AM (yh6zE) Gunbroker has them starting at 24 bucks. Damn.

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 08:05 PM (WrDFV)

274 Posted by: Kreplach

I've never heard my parents say "Jesus Christ" more often than when Jimmy Carter was President.

...until now.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 08:05 PM (lq3Ak)

275 Goodnight Vendette!

Posted by: I Be That Chick at September 23, 2013 08:05 PM (kVw0W)

276 Is this all a result of the thoron radiation, Tuvok? .... No, Captain, it's the Makers Mark that is making you act so irrationally.   .... SHIELDS!!

Posted by: and irresolute at September 23, 2013 08:06 PM (RqHWH)

277 272 Keep you forgot jimmy carter, ugh Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 24, 2013 12:04 AM (HVff2) and FDR and Wilson, now both those guys were fucko's too

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:06 PM (yh6zE)

278 Gotta sleep. English test first thing tomorrow, and today was three hours of yoga. Ta.

Posted by: Gingy at September 23, 2013 08:06 PM (jt8G9)

279 Anyone disagree? Well then FUCK YOU, by which I mean please tell me why I'm wrong! ;-) And happy ONT everyone. Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 12:04 AM (n/+FT) Can you hear me in the barrel?? Don't know if it was minx that jumbled the hell out of it but damn that's too hard to read.

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 08:07 PM (WrDFV)

280 Ta Gingy. Let us know when you reach Nirvana. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 08:07 PM (xY8+2)

281 Posted by: Slapweasel at September 24, 2013 12:05 AM (lq3Ak Well, we'll all be praying much harder with Obama as President. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2013 08:07 PM (a4Omg)

282 and today was three hours of yoga. Ta. Posted by: Gingy at September 24, 2013 12:06 AM (jt8G9) yoga pants pic??

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:08 PM (yh6zE)

283 Posted by: Slapweasel at September 24, 2013 12:05 AM (lq3Ak) My mom usually never curses, but when TFG is on I hear it.

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 08:09 PM (WrDFV)

284 Posted by: FenelonSpoke

LOL

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 08:09 PM (lq3Ak)

285 Hey y'all.

Posted by: Bomber at September 23, 2013 08:09 PM (4Mwv/)

286 That Craigslists murder story is heartbreaking. So much evil, so many men just wanting to start a new life after their old one had been crushed by a number of factors..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2013 08:10 PM (a4Omg)

287 @  259

   "You guys are just faster than me....."


    Take heart, Slapweasel, you could be in my position, with a typing speed of 150 wpd.

      THAT is pitiful.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2013 08:10 PM (SAMxH)

288 Gunbroker has them starting at 24 bucks. Damn. Posted by: RWC at September 24, 2013 12:05 AM (WrDFV) MSRP is $32, but I'm not a GunBroker fan S&W MidwayUSA Browenelles are all sold out I can wait

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:11 PM (yh6zE)

289

Ok, this is funny. One of you morons must write for our local paper. There were some blue footed boobies spotted on the ocean and they usually don't come this far north. This is a direct quote:

“But while we’re enjoying looking for them, ... it’s probably not good for the boobies,” Pereksta said. “For all of them to move this far up north, there’s got to be something wrong.”

Posted by: The Jackhole at September 23, 2013 08:12 PM (/7Xis)

290 175 I don't get all the Scandi hate. Wife and I drive Volvos. We eat lingonberries. And everything in the house came from Ikea. You have been assimilated. Next thing you know, you'll be putting mashed potatoes on hotdogs.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 23, 2013 08:12 PM (U82Km)

291 That's true, I.G.  I'm thinking my "lag" is more "mental".... lol.

*finishes paste*

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 08:12 PM (lq3Ak)

292 Jeff B the Monkees set the bar all of those guys had to crawl under.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 08:12 PM (cSHCI)

293 Jimmy Carter was a god-awful President who thankfully gave us Ronald Reagan.


I firmly believe that Bush is a good man and did the things he did because he thought them right but in retrospect he set the conservative cause back a decade. His profligate spending and two senseless wars have given the statists and marxists the opportunity to deliver the coup-de-grace to the American Constitutional Republic.

We are living in dark and foreboding times and it was Bush who set us on this course.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 08:13 PM (Srkkh)

294 283 and today was three hours of yoga. Ta. Posted by: Gingy at September 24, 2013 12:06 AM (jt8G9) yoga pants pic?? Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 24, 2013 12:08 AM (yh6zE) --- In nick.

Posted by: Gingy at September 23, 2013 08:13 PM (jt8G9)

295 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2013 12:10 AM (a4Omg) Worst story I read today was the 10 year old retarded kid who was raped and the 35 year old woman bragged about it on FB. And that is why I say some people deserve to die.

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 08:14 PM (WrDFV)

296 287 That Craigslists murder story is heartbreaking. So much evil, so many men just wanting to start a new life after their old one had been crushed by a number of WOMEN FIFY Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2013 12:10 AM (a4Omg)

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 08:15 PM (HVff2)

297 "We are living in dark and foreboding times and it was Bush who set us on this course."
Posted by: Kreplach

Nawww ...this has been a "Progressive Movement" since Woodrow Wilson.  It just took an empty, charismatic vessel to fool the LIV's into his shift into overdrive.

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 08:15 PM (lq3Ak)

298 Jeff , I've always had a love of the Beach Boys..my guilty pleasure, since I was a wee lad back in the 70's and my dad had the "Endless Summer" 8-track playing in the Oldsmobile Cutlass. I've had my manhood questioned over that, but I'm secure enough to sing along with Surfer Girl or Don't Worry Baby.....

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 23, 2013 08:15 PM (jSmN1)

299 293 Jeff B the Monkees set the bar all of those guys had to crawl under.
Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 24, 2013 12:12 AM (cSHCI)

I'm a believer.

Posted by: Wild Man Fischer at September 23, 2013 08:16 PM (M32et)

300 185 The guy who bought the Jags would love to move the team, and it looks like either London or LA will be the destinations. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 23, 2013 11:34 PM (BXLPR) The only thing stupider than London is Toronto. Posted by: Vendette, Team Buttercream Frosting With a Spoon at September 23, 2013 11:35 PM (vswPF) The Bills aren't playing in Toronto because the NFL wants a game there. They are playing there to get fans in Toronto so that they have a fanbase there when the Bills move there, and they will once Wilson dies and no new stadium is planned in Buffalo.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 23, 2013 08:16 PM (BXLPR)

301 I don't remember when my Pappy first taught me hate -- hatred of the icicle-squating Scandi snow-wops. But I'll always thank him for it.

I expelled a snigger upon reading this.

Posted by: adams scofflaw guffaw porn at September 23, 2013 08:17 PM (gQKHE)

302 In nick. Posted by: Gingy at September 24, 2013 12:13 AM (jt8G9) what kind of yoga do you do? I don't think those are yoga pants REAL yoga pants in my link

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:17 PM (yh6zE)

303 Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 24, 2013 12:15 AM (HVff2) The article doesn't attribute it simply to being divorced. Other economic factors were at play as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2013 08:18 PM (a4Omg)

304 Come on, give Philly fans a break, that was 45 years ago. Now, when they booed crackhead Michael Irvin's neck injury......

Posted by: The skinny, dirty Santa of Franklin Field at September 23, 2013 08:18 PM (jSmN1)

305
   @   294


    What part of A-stan was senseless?  Should we have left AQ alone?  To metastasize further?

  Iraq was perfectly justified simply for the violations of the cease fire agreement.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2013 08:18 PM (SAMxH)

306 303 In nick. Posted by: Gingy at September 24, 2013 12:13 AM (jt8G9) what kind of yoga do you do? I don't think those are yoga pants REAL yoga pants in my link Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 24, 2013 12:17 AM (yh6zE) --- They certainly are real yoga pants. Just not the kind you pervs want to see. And, really, do you honestly think I'd be posting pictures of my ass on the Internet?

Posted by: Gingy at September 23, 2013 08:19 PM (jt8G9)

307 Oh, and Hatha and Bikram.

Posted by: Gingy at September 23, 2013 08:19 PM (jt8G9)

308 Bush(s) helped it along but yes it mostly started with Wilson. Both Bushes meant well but are at their core politicians so are not to be trusted.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 08:20 PM (cSHCI)

309 When I really want to confuse and silence my lefty acquaintances, I just tell them that we're really living in W's 4th term. They really can't argue.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 23, 2013 08:20 PM (jSmN1)

310 Pervs? No, just morons. Wanna see your ass on the Internet? Sure, why not Gingy?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 23, 2013 08:21 PM (HVff2)

311 They certainly are real yoga pants. Just not the kind you pervs want to see. And, really, do you honestly think I'd be posting pictures of my ass on the Internet? Posted by: Gingy at September 24, 2013 12:19 AM (jt8G9) no, but a moron has gotta ask

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:21 PM (yh6zE)

312 >>> Nawww ...this has been a "Progressive Movement" since Woodrow Wilson. It just took an empty, charismatic vessel to fool the LIV's into his shift into overdrive. "The problem is not that Obama is the Prince of Folls, it's that so many fools are anxious to make him their prince" -- some Czeck newspaper

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2013 08:21 PM (z9HTb)

313 Biggest mistake was not finishing the job in Iraq the first time. We looked weak and foolish.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 08:22 PM (cSHCI)

314 Okay, horde.  Eyelids getting droopy and I'll find sleep wherever I can get it.

-Y'all have a damn-good evening.

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at September 23, 2013 08:23 PM (lq3Ak)

315 removing The Chive link

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:24 PM (yh6zE)

316 I know movers that will refuse to move any IKEA product because it is such crap it falls apart when you pick it up.

Posted by: navybrat at September 23, 2013 08:24 PM (bzGal)

317 Pictures of ass on the internet: http://tinyurl.com/ohkvyqy

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2013 08:24 PM (a4Omg)

318 >>>Jeff B the Monkees set the bar all of those guys had to crawl under.

Can't tell if you're kidding or not, but The Monkees are a damn fine band and a pretty great story to boot: a bunch of guys put together as actors who rebelled against corporate control and actually became a band, and a pretty darn great one at that.  Their first two albums (the ones with most of their famous singles) are meh middling corporate pop -- still not too bad, mind you -- but it's the four records they made AFTER that, once they'd declared artistic independence, started playing their own instruments, producing their own sessions, and writing their own songs, that stand up next to almost any other '60s albums.  Headquarters, Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones, Ltd., The Birds The Bees & The Monkees, and especially Head are all fanfuckingtastic and I don't care what hip criticism has told you to think.

Seriously, JUST FUCKING LISTEN TO THIS SONG: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ArviuaZb_A

That's country-rock a full two years before the genre was supposed to exist. 

Or this, which is better than most any pop song recorded by a group not called the Beatles, Stones, or Who from the 1960s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4W01V1krWo

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 08:25 PM (n/+FT)

319 even better yoga pants in the link

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:26 PM (yh6zE)

320 Wanna see your ass on the Internet? Sure, why not Gingy? Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 24, 2013 12:21 AM (HVff2) I felt a disturbance in the force... Like a million morons cried 'yes!' Jk Gingy. Pew pew their asses

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 08:26 PM (a/xUn)

321

(And if you disagree, let's just run through the best NON-ALBUM singles from those three bands -- that is, tracks that we reflexively associate with them but which never even made it onto one of their proper albums. The Beatles: "She Loves You," "I Want To Hold Your Hand," "I Feel Fine," "We Can Work It Out," "Paperback Writer," "Strawberry Fields Forever"/"Penny Lane," "All You Need Is Love," "Hello, Goodbye," "Hey Jude"; The Rolling Stones: "I Wanna Be Your Man," "It's All Over Now," "The Last Time," "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction," "Get Off Of My Cloud," "19th Nervous Breakdown," "Paint It, Black," "Let's Spend The Night Together," "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadow?," "We Love You," "Jumpin' Jack Flash," "Honky Tonk Women";


 

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 12:04 AM

 

That gets a bit convoluted with the Beatles and Stone's LP's, particularly the Stones. A bunch of those singles did go onto "proper" LP's, depending upon one's definition of "proper". The Beatles and Stones have each got 2 very different discographies... UK releases and US releases. "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" was on "Meet The Beatles"... which really is a "proper" LP, a US one. By and large, The Beatles UK catalogue is "superior" to the US one, in that The UK LP's had more tracks, generally... but, the US catalogue got more LP's out of stretching out the songs. Not many Beatles singles failed to make it onto US (non compilation) LP's, "I wanna be your Man" and "Paperback Writer" being 2. "All you need is Love", "Strawberry Fields" and Penny LAne" went onto "Magical Mystery Tour" in The US... which is really a "proper" LP.

 

With the Stones, The US catalogue is far superior to te

he UK one, with "Paint it Black" going on "Aftermath", "Get off of my cloud" on "December's Children" and "Last Time + "Satisfaction" going on "Out of their Heads. "Honkey Tonk Women" never got put on a regular LP and neither did "Jumping Jack Flash". Up to about '67 the Beatles and Stones catalogue was subject to being cut up and released differently in the US and the UK. With both bands, during that period, the concept of doing studio recordings of songs... for a specific LP, other than "the next one", was pretty vague. They knew how it worked and usually just recorde a bunch of stuff, to be realeased on... whatever. They sometimes had a prefernce for the packaging, sometimes not. By '67 Both groups werwe definitely working with LP tracklisting in mind.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2013 08:26 PM (9gNQd)

322 Good night for real, freaks.

Posted by: Gingy at September 23, 2013 08:27 PM (jt8G9)

323 @  314

   We went to war with Iraq under a very clear directive--boot Saddam the hell out of Kuwait.  I don't think the coalition would have stayed together if we had escalated to the extent of removing Hussein.

  As such, the op WAS a success--with the quibble that the Highway Of Death got cut short.We could have atritted  Hussein's forces into ineffectiveness with another 12 hours.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2013 08:28 PM (SAMxH)

324 @306

What have we gained for undertaking those two wars?

Nothing except spending blood and treasure for absolutely no gain.

And in the process we have enacted the very laws that the statists are using to attack and marginalize us.

This is what gave Obama his platform to gain political power.

So yes it was a blunder of epic proportions.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 08:28 PM (Srkkh)

325 Good night for real, freaks. morons Posted by: Gingy at September 24, 2013 12:27 AM (jt8G9)

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:30 PM (yh6zE)

326 Yep the Monkees were really groovy. Can't argue with that. Their conceptional continuity continues to this day.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 08:30 PM (cSHCI)

327 So yes it was a blunder of epic proportions. Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2013 12:28 AM (Srkkh) It was a blunder because we are a pussyfoot country now. Who is scared of 'The Great Satan?' Nobody.

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 08:31 PM (a/xUn)

328 >>>That gets a bit convoluted with the Beatles and Stone's LP's, particularly the Stones. A bunch of those singles did go onto "proper" LP's, depending upon one's definition of "proper".

Yeah, I should have been clearer in my original post, but I only consider the the UK discographies to be legitimate.  The US bastardizations don't exist as far as I'm concerned -- never had to deal with The Beatles' stuff on CD as a kid and I taught myself to understand the Stones' early ABKCO discs as frankenstein's monsters that I'd reburn into their proper UK order and listen in that way.

In particular the US version of Aftermath is a disgrace compared to the UK one: it removes "Mother's Little Helper" and adds "Paint It Black" (an even swap in terms of objective quality, but "Paint It Black" just screamed "non-album single" to me even before I knew it was originally meant as such), but then goes on to simply REMOVE four more songs and, even more infuriatingly, edit another great one ("Out Of Time").  I pity people who grew up on the US Aftermath, it's a pale shadow of the intended artistic effect of the UK version.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 08:33 PM (n/+FT)

329  


Absolutely no gain?  Ask AQ if what we did was ineffective.

  The blunder part cannot be attributed to Bush.  The AFTERMATH of BOTH wars can be laid at Obama"s feet.

   There is where the blunder comes in.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2013 08:34 PM (SAMxH)

330 Both wars were justified.  The mistake was sticking around for years after to rebuild.

Posted by: Bomber at September 23, 2013 08:34 PM (4Mwv/)

331

Correction, 1966 was when both bands started to record with a set tracklisting in mind... seriously, with "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver" with the Beatles and "Aftermath" and "Between the buttons" with the Stones. But the UK and US tracks were still switched around in most cases. 1967 was when they both recorded "albums" that remained the same on both sides of the atlantic.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2013 08:35 PM (9gNQd)

332 >>>Their conceptional continuity continues to this day.

Your handle is "Freaked Out!" and you've namechecked "conceptual continuity," so there's roughly a 0.00% chance you're not a Frank Zappa fan.  Therefore, I'm assuming you know that Zappa was (in violation of pretty much every expectation people might have) actually a fan of The Monkees and one of their only early defenders among 'serious musicians' when people started screaming about how they didn't play on their early records.  He appeared on their show (in a pretty hilarious bit) and also made a cameo in Head (the totally fucked-up Monkees movie written by Jack Nicholson -- yes, THAT Jack Nicholson).

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 08:35 PM (n/+FT)

333

You know, I'm of two minds on this mental illness/forced treatment thing. One the one hand, it's true that we've got a problem. There are many people who should be in an institution, locked up and away and treated if possible.

 On the other hand, forced committed is subject to horrible abuses. Totalitarians just love to make disagreement with the regime a mental illness subject to forced "treatment" by the state. I think in Cuba "aversion to socialism" is still an official mental disorder.

      Just imagine what our own totalitarian wannabes would do if unchecked. Conservatism would become a mental illness. Are you part of the "gun culture"? Must be something wrong with you. No sane person would think that way. And what are these crazy, anarchist political views you are exposing your children to? No sane person would do that. You must have anger issues or something for being against the benevolent state's good intentions for you and your family.

   And look at it today. We've got more people on all sorts of pyschoactive drugs than ever before. There's an alarming number of children being prescribed powerful anti-pyschotic drugs.

   That's all thanks to Pharma trying to sell as many drugs as they can and co-opting the docs and community into classifying just about anything as a disorder.

        So on the one hand, we've got truly batshit insane people running around the streets and on the other we're drugging untold numbers of kids for trivial reaons and making being a young boy itself a mental disorder.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 23, 2013 08:35 PM (5gUTQ)

334 Irongrandpa but what if we did take out Hussein the first time? Might have saved us a lot of trouble later? Also would have sent the message don't fuck with us.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 08:35 PM (cSHCI)

335 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2013 08:36 PM (T1005)

336 I firmly believe that Bush is a good man and did the things he did because he thought them right but in retrospect he set the conservative cause back a decade. His profligate spending and two senseless wars have given the statists and marxists the opportunity to deliver the coup-de-grace to the American Constitutional Republic.

We are living in dark and foreboding times and it was Bush who set us on this course.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2013 12:13 AM (Srkkh)


Uh hold on there Hoss.

1. I remember the Carter years. And even if every single bad thing said about Bush were true, he would still be beat out for worst prez by Jimmy C.
2. You may consider the Iraq and Afghanistan wars senseless now but they were popular and seen as necessary ten years ago. Which is why both were approved by Congress. The middle east is quite different now than it was in 2001 and that's a good thing.
3. History did not begin in the year 2000.

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 23, 2013 08:36 PM (XkotV)

337 The Monkees were a corporate response to the The Beatles. Pure and simple. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

Posted by: navybrat at September 23, 2013 08:37 PM (bzGal)

338 @328

There is no way in this modern age to fight a total war which would have made the expense of blood and treasure worth the effort.

As Ann Coulter has said, "Kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity"

Since we can't do that we should have used airstrikes and the emerging drones to keep them bottled up instead of spending trillions of dollars and costing thousands of lives to so that one day we can be the air force of the very people who perpetrated 9/11.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 08:37 PM (Srkkh)

339

>>> The AFTERMATH of BOTH wars can be laid at Obama"s feet.

 

I blame Colin Powell and his stupid Pottery Barn rule.

Posted by: Bomber at September 23, 2013 08:37 PM (4Mwv/)

340 Yes JeffB of course. Just trying to get a rise out of you. FZ was a master of satire.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 08:37 PM (cSHCI)

341 >>> I pity people who grew up on the US Aftermath, it's a pale shadow of the intended artistic effect of the UK version. After all these years, I have found the cause of that feeling of loss. I should be eligible for a sizable federal grant.

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2013 08:38 PM (z9HTb)

342 Jeff B.: maybe you can explain, why was "Sgt. Pepper" such a big freakin' deal in 1967? There had to have been numerous previous psychedelic rock albums by then. Of course, the Beatles making a psychedelic record gave the official blessing to the genre as the "next big thing," I suppose.

Also, I'm (another) one who thinks "Revolver" is actually more enjoyable in numerous ways. (And not just because it was released in the U.S. on my actual original birthday in August 1966.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 08:40 PM (xY8+2)

343 3. History did not begin in the year 2000. Posted by: Mætenloch at September 24, 2013 12:36 AM (XkotV) that's a fact Jack!

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:41 PM (yh6zE)

344 >>>The Monkees were a corporate response to the The Beatles. Pure and simple. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

They sure started that way.  But as it turns out, they had minds and lives and aspirations of their own, and after five months as a corporate creation they literally got their "musical director" (Don Kirschner) fired.  (Mike Nesmith famously put his fist through a wall in front of Kirschner and told him "that should have been your fucking face.")  After that they played their own instruments, did their own arrangements and productions (guided mostly by Tork), recorded far more of their own songs (particularly Nesmith, who turned out to be quite the gifted country-rock and psychedelic writer), and subverted their own plastic image at every opportunity. 

They weren't The Greatest Band Of All Time or anything, but trust me: that music is fantastic.  If you don't believe me, try listening to this and tell me it isn't gorgeous (Neil Young guests on guitar): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWLasUfJnWs

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 08:41 PM (n/+FT)

345 Since we can't do that we should have used airstrikes and the emerging drones to keep them bottled up instead of spending trillions of dollars and costing thousands of lives to so that one day we can be the air force of the very people who perpetrated 9/11.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2013 12:37 AM (Srkkh)


So we're the air force for Al Qaeda now?

OKAY YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON ME - WHAT PILLS DID YOU TAKE AND WHEN DID YOU TAKE THEM?

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 23, 2013 08:42 PM (XkotV)

346 @  340

  Bomber, I agree.  That and no SOFA agreement in Iraq. I don't think Obama had any intention of working out an agreeable policy.

   A-stan,it would have been bounce the rubble and don't make us come back.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2013 08:42 PM (SAMxH)

347 @337

History might not have begun in 2000 but the road to the end of the Republic did.

Our national debt went from 5.5 trillion to 9 trillion our deficits have soared, the very laws our enemies are using against us were enacted, and John Roberts who has proven to be the Jim Joyce of Supreme court justices was nominated to the Supreme Court.

Oh yeah we even controlled all three branches of the government and look what that got us - Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 08:43 PM (Srkkh)

348 Yes, and I know Mr. Nesmith personally. I do not seek to insult their musical endeavors, just to point out that they would have never even existed but for The Beatles.

Posted by: navybrat at September 23, 2013 08:44 PM (bzGal)

349 Even Mike Nesmith would admit as much.

Posted by: navybrat at September 23, 2013 08:45 PM (bzGal)

350 348 @337 History might not have begun in 2000 but the road to the end of the Republic did. Our national debt went from 5.5 trillion to 9 trillion our deficits have soared, the very laws our enemies are using against us were enacted, and John Roberts who has proven to be the Jim Joyce of Supreme court justices was nominated to the Supreme Court. Oh yeah we even controlled all three branches of the government and look what that got us - Barack Hussein Obama. Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2013 12:43 AM (Srkkh) **************** Look up^ On your six.

Posted by: tasker at September 23, 2013 08:46 PM (r2PLg)

351 We're only in it for the money. And the titties and beer.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 08:46 PM (cSHCI)

352 >>>FZ was a master of satire.

I'm an OCD fan of FZ when he was with the original Mothers of Invention (i.e. 1965-1969), to the point where I have literally every single official release, boxed set, and every concert recording by that group.  The '67-'68 repertoire in particular (largely instrumental) is pure diamond-quality as far as I'm concerned, and that includes the supposedly 'difficult' shit like the MOI's version of Edgard Varese's "Octandre" and whatnot.  In particular, I consider "Holiday In Berlin" and "Aybe Sea"/"The Little House I Used To Live In" to be the absolute peak of everything Zappa ever brought to the table compositionally.  (It's no surprise that Burnt Weeny Sandwich is my favorite record, with Uncle Meat a close second.)

I have most of his post-1970 work, but I just don't enjoy it nearly as much, except when it's largely instrumental.  Roxy And Elsewhere, One Size Fits All, the guitar albums...all great stuff.  But I fuckin' loathe the pandering smut like Over-Nite Sensation, etc.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 08:46 PM (n/+FT)

353 >>>>>>>History might not have begun in 2000 but the road to the end of the Republic did. ever heard of Woodrow Wilson? Look him up, nasty progressive

Posted by: Panda Hunter at September 23, 2013 08:47 PM (yh6zE)

354 Yeah, I should have been clearer in my original post, but I only consider the the UK discographies to be legitimate. The US bastardizations don't exist as far as I'm concerned -- never had to deal with The Beatles' stuff on CD as a kid and I taught myself to understand the Stones' early ABKCO discs as frankenstein's monsters that I'd reburn into their proper UK order and listen in that way.

In particular the US version of Aftermath is a disgrace compared to the UK one: it removes "Mother's Little Helper" and adds "Paint It Black" (an even swap in terms of objective quality, but "Paint It Black" just screamed "non-album single" to me even before I knew it was originally meant as such), but then goes on to simply REMOVE four more songs and, even more infuriatingly, edit another great one ("Out Of Time"). I pity people who grew up on the US Aftermath, it's a pale shadow of the intended artistic effect of the UK version.

 

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 12:33 AM

 

The US Stones catalogue kicks ass. Overall, I mean. The Stones UK sets suffer more than the Beatles from "leave the singles off" syndrome. You get fewer tracks on average, per LP, but... you get killer songs included. Plus there are a couple of excellent LP's like "Now" and "December's Children" that didn't get UK release. "Between the Buttons"? US release slaughters the UK one. It's got "Ruby Tuesday" and "Let's spend..." on it. "Please go home" and "Backstreet Girl" from the UK one are great and in a perfect world, would be on the US one also, but, having to choose... the singles win out.

 

"Aftermath" is indeed a mixed bag. Overall, the UK one is better. The tracks dropped to be included on "flowers" weakens the LP quite a bit. The upside though is "Paint it Black". Single or no, havinf "Aftermath" kick off with PIB is like "Brown Sugar" on SF or "Sympathy" on BB. Awesome. I have both vinyl versions of Aftermath and like them both. But, yeah the UK one is a bit stronger.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2013 08:48 PM (9gNQd)

355 "I know Mr. Nesmith personally...." navydude, tell 'Woolhat' I always liked his work & wit.

Posted by: Just some dude on Ace at September 23, 2013 08:50 PM (ZX0Je)

356 Also, I'm (another) one who thinks "Revolver" is actually more enjoyable in numerous ways. (And not just because it was released in the U.S. on my actual original birthday in August 1966.)

 

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2013 12:40 AM

 

"Revolver" kicks "Sgt Pepper's" arse.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2013 08:50 PM (9gNQd)

357 Time for the old folk. 

   For anyone who is current or former service--thank you from a grateful vet.


        Goodnite, good people.   Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2013 08:50 PM (SAMxH)

358 Jared Keller @jaredbkeller

BREAKING: Kenyan foreign minister tells Al Jazeera Nairobi mall attack the work of al-Qaeda, not al-Shabab

4:41 PM - 23 Sep 2013

Posted by: Edward R Morrow at September 23, 2013 08:51 PM (e8kgV)

359 >>>Jeff B.: maybe you can explain, why was "Sgt. Pepper" such a big freakin' deal in 1967? There had to have been numerous previous psychedelic rock albums by then. Of course, the Beatles making a psychedelic record gave the official blessing to the genre as the "next big thing," I suppose.

The answer is time/place/stature.  You are absolutely not alone in preferring Revolver to Sgt. Pepper; that is, in fact, the answer that most rock snobs would give.  (Revolver is arguably flawless, though I'd say it competes with the original UK A Hard Day's Night and The Beatles for the crown of "Best Beatles LP.")  But not only did Sgt. Pepper drop at exactly the right time -- inaugurating the so-called "Summer of Love" before everything went to shit in '68 in the US and France and Czechoslovakia -- it also was a record that united generations.  The dirty hippies loved it, but so did their parents.  "She's Leaving Home," "When I'm Sixty-Four," "With A Little Help From My Friends"...these were songs that it's actually not an exaggeration to say that EVERYONE was singing back then, old and young. 

THAT is why Sgt. Pepper had the seismic impact.  It seemed conceptually unified (even though it really wasn't), it had serious artistic pretenses, and it had a truly universal acceptance among every demographic that would honestly never be repeated again -- ever.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 08:51 PM (n/+FT)

360

>>> A-stan,it would have been bounce the rubble and don't make us come back.

 

Hindsight is 20/20 and all, but I would have handled AFG exactly like we did, right up until we handed Karzai the keys to the Presidential Palace.  Then all our guys would have left, and told them don't make us come back.  Save the rubble bouncing for the return trip.

 

Same thing in Iraq.  Right about the time they started looting museums, we should have picked a guy to run it, and told him, fix your shit, we're going home.

Posted by: Bomber at September 23, 2013 08:52 PM (4Mwv/)

361 @334

Yeah I get all of that, but what we are experiencing now is and order of magnitude more precarious.

Obamacare is an existential threat to the country and we have a supposed opposition party working to make sure it is fully realized albeit with carve outs for themselves.

We have an "oppositonal" party working harder to harrass the few conservatives who would stand against this, with the help of Karl Rove - a Bushie.


Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 08:53 PM (Srkkh)

362 It's all good. I love the variety And the humour. Frank's bands always sounded like they were having a blast. And so tight when he wanted them to be. He was just amazing. I often wonder what he'd have to say about thd clusterfuck we are experiencing now.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at September 23, 2013 08:53 PM (cSHCI)

363 And in 1988 the Japanese Red Army had a terrorist in the US.  Luckily a New Jersey trooper stopped him before he could detonate his bombs.

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2009/01/terrorists-as-criminals-meme.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 23, 2013 08:54 PM (27gH7)

364 You've never been reading a book and three chapters in, the book has gone, "What are the major themes of the book so far?" And you've gone, "Well...I don't know...," and boom. "Oh, for fuck's sake!"

Your mobile device has never disintegrated in your buttery hands like an ancient scroll pried from a booby-trapped crypt, you pasty couch-boil. 

Posted by: adams Indiana Jones porn at September 23, 2013 08:57 PM (gQKHE)

365 P.S. The best live album ever is Live At Leeds by The Who.   Really ain't much argument to be had there.  Lot of great ones by other artists -- I'll accept discussion of Live/Dead by The Grateful Dead, 'It's Too Late To Stop Now' by Van Morrison, At Fillmore East by The Allman Brothers and U.S.A. by King Crimson.  I might even listen to special pleading for the live half of the otherwise execrable Pink Floyd disc Ummagumma.

But, ultimately, it's Live At Leeds and it always was.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 08:59 PM (n/+FT)

366 Bushco made war like I play chess. I know strong openings, but after that I bog down. Then I lose my queen and then I panic. Always kick the board over well before it gets that far. Which is to say I agree with bomber above.

Posted by: Just some dude on Ace at September 23, 2013 08:59 PM (crLRi)

367 I have always thought of Rubber Soul and Revolver as the best double album.

Posted by: Just some dude on Ace at September 23, 2013 09:00 PM (crLRi)

368 @366

The best live performance is the Allman Brothers at the Fillmore East.

End. Of. Discussion.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 09:02 PM (Srkkh)

369 The best Beatles album is Abbey Road.

Runner up is Revolver.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 09:04 PM (Srkkh)

370 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 12:54 AM (27gH7 Why didn't you tell us you had a blog?!? Seriously, great topic. And now I am looking at the Japanese differently. (Not real, but the more info the better.)

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 09:05 PM (a/xUn)

371 Not real = Not really

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 09:06 PM (a/xUn)

372 Kreplach, you may be onto something there.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 09:06 PM (xY8+2)

373 Just some dude: hmmm..... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 09:09 PM (xY8+2)

374 @373

Maybe??

What exactly remains the question.

** Scratches chin, drinks scotch, scratches chin....

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 09:09 PM (Srkkh)

375 Ahem The best bands were from the 80s metal period Period

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 09:09 PM (j8JLb)

376 Beatles Threetles Tootles Ringo

Posted by: Just some dude on Ace at September 23, 2013 09:12 PM (ZX0Je)

377 P.S. The best live album ever is Live At Leeds by The Who. Really ain't much argument to be had there. Lot of great ones by other artists -- I'll accept discussion of Live/Dead by The Grateful Dead, 'It's Too Late To Stop Now' by Van Morrison, At Fillmore East by The Allman Brothers and U.S.A. by King Crimson. I might even listen to special pleading for the live half of the otherwise execrable Pink Floyd disc Ummagumma. But, ultimately, it's Live At Leeds and it always was. Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 12:59 AM (n/+FT) What about "Live After Death" by Iron Maiden, "No Sleep 'Til Hammersmith" by Motörhead, and "Space Ritual" by Hawkwind?

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at September 23, 2013 09:12 PM (Vk2pI)

378 Obama sure does wave the Hitler salute all the time. He is lucky the news photographers emphasize faux halos behind his head instead of his reichsfuhrer wave. Netanyahu should not let his arms leave his side, just to be sure. Just noticed on Greta. Hi and g'nite.

Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 09:14 PM (sOtz/)

379 Nice to see Political Hat come out as a headbanger. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 09:14 PM (xY8+2)

380 Since we can't do that we should have used airstrikes and the emerging drones to keep them bottled up instead of spending trillions of dollars and costing thousands of lives to so that one day we can be the air force of the very people who perpetrated 9/11. Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2013 12:37 AM (Srkkh) ********************* When were "drones" operational? Oh that's right--you don't know. And Kreplach is your handle? Interesting.

Posted by: tasker at September 23, 2013 09:17 PM (r2PLg)

381 Night all. Here is "Down Through The Night" from Hawkwind's Space Ritual featuring Lemmy on bass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoA8zu1ZTSI

Posted by: \m/ The Political Hat \m/ at September 23, 2013 09:18 PM (Vk2pI)

382 Rush's exit stage left is also a killer live album.

There are no great live metal albums sad to say, and I love metal.


Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 09:19 PM (Srkkh)

383 Slayerrr! Reign in Blood. Nuff said.

Sgt Pepper has some great tunes on it. And arguably McCartney's best bass lines.Yeah, I know how bass players are regarded around here. McCartney, IMO, is the exception that proves the rule. Or something.

Anyway, Pepper has some duds on it too...She's Leaving Home and Within You Without you are skippable. Abbey Road is a fitting final album for the boys, but...Octopus's Garden..reallly? The vaunted White Album is a mishmash, some great tunes, some unlistenable ones. I'll go with Revolver as the best overall.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 23, 2013 09:19 PM (jSmN1)

384 Political Hat, not that there aren't a few metal masterpieces to write about.

Jeff B.: are you a fan at all of Blue Cheer, by any chance?

(And, true fact: the actual name of Blue Cheer's lead singer was Dickie Peterson.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 09:19 PM (xY8+2)

385 Night Hat!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 09:20 PM (xY8+2)

386 What about "Live After Death" by Iron Maiden, "No Sleep 'Til Hammersmith" by Motörhead, and "Space Ritual" by Hawkwind?

Of those three, only No Sleep 'Til Hammersmith really earns its reputation.  None of them are BAD, mind you. (though I'll admit that I never felt that most heavy metal bands were capable of 'bringing it' live quite as brain-meltingly as they did in the studio -- ever listen to a Black Sabbath live album? Disappointing as hell!)  But one key factor in the "greatest live record" competition, for me at least, has always been the inclusion of material that was either unavailable on other records by the band OR truly redefines/rewrites it.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 09:20 PM (n/+FT)

387 RWC the inter-connection of the PLO and the likes of the JRA are too often missed.  But in the 1970s and even into the 1980s, terrorists would work in solidarity with others helping fight their struggle.  Entebbe anyone?  Or Lod.

So for those who said that Iran or Iraq would never work with the likes of AQ were either idiots or deliberately lying to push their own agenda.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 23, 2013 09:21 PM (27gH7)

388 >>>There are no great live metal albums sad to say, and I love metal.

Yup, Kreplach beat me to my point with this one.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 09:22 PM (n/+FT)

389 I am a big Lowell George fan, "Little Feat". I like all of their live stuff.

Posted by: navybrat at September 23, 2013 09:25 PM (bzGal)

390 But one key factor in the "greatest live record" competition, for me at least, has always been the inclusion of material that was either unavailable on other records by the band OR truly redefines/rewrites it. Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 01:20 AM (n/+FT) "Space Ritual" definitely ought to count then. It had new material and improvisations, and much better versions of many songs than the studio versions.

Posted by: \m/ The Political Hat \m/ at September 23, 2013 09:25 PM (Vk2pI)

391 Best death-metal album ever: Reign In Blood

Best old-school heavy metal album ever: either Led Zeppelin (i.e. the debut) or Black Sabbath (again, the debut).

Best hardcore album ever: Zen Arcade claims this title even though the second LP suddenly branches out into more rockist territory; still, that first LP is the most skin-shreddingly, soul-harrowingly intense American hardcore ever released.  And it isn't just because of the MUSIC (hell, the music is badly recorded!), it's because the emotions behind the lyrics are transparently sincere and real, not just an affectation.  "Something I Learned Today," "Broken Home, Broken Heart," "Chartered Trips," "The Biggest Lie," and (I've mentioned this one before) "I'll Never Forget You" will make even non-hardcore fans stop and take notice.  Oh, and Smashing Pumpkins totally ripped off "What's Going On" for their one truly immortal song, so fuck them.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 09:27 PM (n/+FT)

392 Oh this is rich.  The US Marshal Service has cancelled the planned auction of Jesse Jackson Jr's assets due to doubts on the authenticity of memorabilia.  Until they can verify things like the Eddie Van Halen signed guitar is in fact authentic, no auction.
http://www.usmarshals.gov/news/chron/2013/092013a.htm

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 23, 2013 09:27 PM (27gH7)

393

Allen West on Greta right now.  As usual he's rocking it.  I think he should be the next Rep. VP candidate, doubt he has the experience to be Pres., but heck...he would do a lot better than that shitbag jr. senator from my state.

Wonder if that just landed me on a list somewhere?  Did I get my point across w/out getting the attention of Big Brother?  Ooops, can I say that?

Flees...........

Posted by: The Farmer at September 23, 2013 09:28 PM (eBupg)

394 Best UK punk album: either The Clash or Wire's Pink Flag, depending on whether you count Pink Flag as truly being punk-rock (really it's avant-garde/art-rock wearing 'punk' clothing).

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 09:28 PM (n/+FT)

395 @381

The US has been using UAV's since the first gulf war, but not in the hunter killer capacity we are using them now.

I don't know what you are getting at.

And Kreplach is a deliscious dumpling. You should try them sometime you'll like them.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2013 09:28 PM (Srkkh)

396  Best UK punk album: either The Clash

 

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 01:28 AM

 

Ah, but the UK release or the US one? The US one has a shitload of singles on it.

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2013 09:30 PM (9gNQd)

397 >>>"Space Ritual" definitely ought to count then. It had new material and improvisations, and much better versions of many songs than the studio versions.

To be fair it's been a looooong time since I've listened to that one, so I'll have to go back and give it another shot.  One of the nice things about having so many albums, and being into so many different artists and styles, is that you build up a backlog -- stuff can just jump out of nowhere after sitting in your collection for years and rearrange your mind.  I had R.E.M.'s Murmur in my CD collection for FIVE YEARS before I actually sat down and listened to it the way it deserved...and once I did it was immediately apparent that I was hearing the single greatest debut album by any rock group, full stop.  Nearly fifteen years on, I still haven't come up with a debut that's better than that, even though there are many bands I would rate above them overall.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 09:31 PM (n/+FT)

398 The best bands were from the 80s metal period

Sorry, once the East Europeans got into "melodic metal" they owned our asses.

Olga Romanova =
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvSAcQINLic

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 23, 2013 09:31 PM (d7tB2)

399 >>>Ah, but the UK release or the US one? The US one has a shitload of singles on it.

Aw man...that's one of the rare places where my whole "fuck the US bastardized versions" attitude breaks down.  Because the US version really does violence to the original concept -- those singles it includes came from up to a year after the original LP was recorded -- but holy living fuck who in their right minds is going to complain about losing "Protex Blue" in favor of "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" fer chrissakes

It's really a coin toss.  The original UK LP flows more naturally, but "Hammersmith Palais," "Clash City Rockers," "Complete Control," and "Jail Guitar Doors" are songs that only an asshole would complain about being included on the US record.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 09:34 PM (n/+FT)

400 388 RWC the inter-connection of the PLO and the likes of the JRA are too often missed. But in the 1970s and even into the 1980s, terrorists would work in solidarity with others helping fight their struggle. Entebbe anyone? Or Lod. So for those who said that Iran or Iraq would never work with the likes of AQ were either idiots or deliberately lying to push their own agenda. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 01:21 AM (27gH7) Like th movie Munich when the groups were working together. Serious, didn't know you had a blog. Looks good. What are the banning parameters

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 09:35 PM (a/xUn)

401

Seriously if we ever get a major meetup I make it to I'm bringing a huge sack of candy.  Posted by: Mero

 

 

 

The way this thread is going I'm bringing a couple of cans of buttercream frosting AND LEAVING THE WIFE AT HOME!

 j/k about the last, she'd love this bunch

Posted by: The Farmer at September 23, 2013 09:35 PM (eBupg)

402 And Kreplach is a deliscious dumpling. You should try them sometime you'll like them. Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2013 01:28 AM (Srkkh) Just don't try to pass it off as a word in Klingon Boggle.

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 09:37 PM (a/xUn)

403 396 @381 The US has been using UAV's since the first gulf war, but not in the hunter killer capacity we are using them now. I don't know what you are getting at. And Kreplach is a deliscious dumpling. You should try them sometime you'll like them. Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2013 01:28 AM (Srkkh) ******************** Sorry you don't know what I am getting at? How about the fact that there s a big hole the size of a mack truck in your--arm chair warrior hypothesis about how we should have responded to 9/11? Here's the deal Dumplin'-- If you want to play alt. history then Gore or the Tag Team Duo of Kerry and Edwards are the Executive. Essentially with your declaration you are saying that they would have been better--problem is the mythology of Gore, Kerry and Edwards sure as unraveled--now hasn't it? You talk about fighting-- but you don't even fight for the truth. Try starting with that next time. (And I'll pass on the dumplings--I'm not Jewish.)

Posted by: tasker at September 23, 2013 09:37 PM (r2PLg)

404 Farmer: if you've got enough buttercream frosting, you could make yerself a *whole new* wife.

Or, so I've heard... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 09:37 PM (xY8+2)

405 -problem is the mythology of Gore, Kerry and Edwards sure *has* unraveled--now hasn't it?

Posted by: tasker at September 23, 2013 09:38 PM (r2PLg)

406 One bit part player they missed was the Max Klinger character on MASH.  He was supposed to be a one shot cross dresser character trying to get out of the Army.  But the guy was FUNNY.  By the end of MASH, he was one of the key characters.  He outlasted just about every one except Alan Alda and Loretta Switt. 

Posted by: rd at September 23, 2013 09:39 PM (D+lxs)

407 Sorry, once the East Europeans got into "melodic metal" they owned our asses.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 24, 2013 01:31 AM (d7tB2)


Totally. Unfortunately Europe still kicks our fucking ass in the metal scene. It blows ass here, and is on fire over there.


Posted by: Berserker at September 23, 2013 09:39 PM (FMbng)

408 I was hearing the single greatest debut album by any rock group, full stop

Why, thank you! I assume you were talking about "Unknown Pleasures", an album with actual influence

Posted by: Ian Curtis and Bernard Sumner at September 23, 2013 09:41 PM (d7tB2)

409 rd, not sure what topic you're referring back to re Max Klinger and M*A*S*H.

However, I've read that the actor who played Klinger, Jamie Farr, is a Hollywood conservative. Maybe that helps explain why he doesn't work much anymore.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 09:42 PM (xY8+2)

410 No banning policy per se unless you fill the comment section with Viagra or other nonsense.  Then delete the comment.

Its my little thing where I write about what strikes my fancy.  Never been anything like a money-maker.  Just my ramblings online.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 23, 2013 09:43 PM (27gH7)

411 Jeff B. seems to have taken a breather. Or maybe he's just listening to something new and bitchin'. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 09:43 PM (xY8+2)

412 Aw man...that's one of the rare places where my whole "fuck the US bastardized versions" attitude breaks down. Because the US version really does violence to the original concept -- those singles it includes came from up to a year after the original LP was recorded -- but holy living fuck who in their right minds is going to complain about losing "Protex Blue" in favor of "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" fer chrissakes?

It's really a coin toss. The original UK LP flows more naturally, but "Hammersmith Palais," "Clash City Rockers," "Complete Control," and "Jail Guitar Doors" are songs that only an asshole would complain about being included on the US record.

 

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 01:34 AM

 

Don't forget "I fought the Law"... Yeah, the UK version sucks by comparison.. I don't give a shit about how a band wants an LP to flow. I only care about how it sounds to me. Got both versions of "The Clash" and I never play the UK one.

 

A good example of how moving things around can help an LP, with "Aftermath", the UK version finishes with a pretty weak track IIRC, whereas the US one ends with "Goin' Home". Starts with PIB, ends with Goin' Home. I like that. Another lesser known example is the origianl cassette version of "The White Album". Heard that? The track listing is completely different to the vinyl. It's fantastic.

 

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2013 09:45 PM (9gNQd)

413 Actually the use of drones by the US goes back to WWI.  Look up Kettering.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 23, 2013 09:45 PM (27gH7)

414 Its my little thing where I write about what strikes my fancy. Never been anything like a money-maker. Just my ramblings online. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 24, 2013 01:43 AM (27gH7) Looks good. Bookmarked. Good night guys and dolls. Early morning Dr. Appointment. Get it done now!

Posted by: RWC at September 23, 2013 09:49 PM (a/xUn)

415 Nearly 2 million of First Lady Michelle ObamaÂ’s Twitter followers are not real.

According to the Twitter analytics application Status People, 37 percent of Michelle Obama’s 5,290, 506 Twitter followers — or approximately 1,957,487 followers — are considered fake. Thirty-five percent of her followers are inactive, and 28 percent are considered “good,” or real.

Posted by: Walk Like An Egyptian at September 23, 2013 09:49 PM (e8kgV)

416 Anna Puma, isn't that how the Wright Brothers basically became fantastically wealthy? Licensing aerospace patents to the U.S. Government?

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 09:49 PM (xY8+2)

417 Kettering with assistance from Sperry, they built the gyroscope, for Kettering's biplane cruise missile.  Simple collapsible biplane that required no pilot.  Start the motor and launch.  The gyroscope would keep the plane level until at a predetermined time the plane would dive and explode.  Predates by several decades the German V-1 in concept.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 23, 2013 09:52 PM (27gH7)

418 416 Nearly 2 million of First Lady Michelle ObamaÂ’s Twitter followers are not real.

According to the Twitter analytics application Status People, 37 percent of Michelle Obama’s 5,290, 506 Twitter followers — or approximately 1,957,487 followers — are considered fake. Thirty-five percent of her followers are inactive, and 28 percent are considered “good,” or real.
  I'm guessing twitter doesn't clear out inactive users.  Honestly they should.  If you haven't signed in in 2 years your account goes inactive and up for someone else to claim if they want.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2013 09:53 PM (LI48c)

419 In the buildup to the UN General Assembly session on Tuesday, Obama is being set up by Iran to dash along PutinÂ’s path again like a child chasing an ice cream truck. Iran has learned a lot about diplomacy. Gone is the fire-breathing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Izod Ayatollah who would smile while condemning America and Israel to eternal damnation. His replacement, Rouhani, is all calm smiles and dressed as an Iranian cleric, not a prep school graduate.

Posted by: Abdul Rahman Abdullah Mohamed Juma Kahm at September 23, 2013 09:54 PM (e8kgV)

420 buzzion: not sure I would want for Twitter to "repurpose" accounts after two years. I think they should probably just delete those accounts. For instance, it's coming up on two years since Andrew Breitbart died. I'm not sure I would want to see some lefty group take over his account.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 09:55 PM (xY8+2)

421 I'm not sure I would want to see some lefty group take over [AB]'s account.

Ergie, for instance. He's jostling up to be the first in line.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 23, 2013 09:59 PM (d7tB2)

422 >>>Jeff B. seems to have taken a breather. Or maybe he's just listening to something new and bitchin'. :-)

I'm listening to bootleg soundboard recordings of The Who taken on their October-December 1969 tour of North America.  The stuff was recorded professionally for an expected live album, but when Townshend heard the material he for whatever reason declared the recordings to be shite and demanded they be destroyed.  Which, supposedly they were...but of course the guy tasked with that responsibility kept a few for himself, which eventually leaked out.

They're incredible, albeit incomplete.  The Washington, DC and Ottawa, ON shows in particular are the equal of Live At Leeds.

There really were few live bands as magnetically listenable as The Who from 1968-1971.  The Grateful Dead definitely rank up there (really just their 1967-1974 era though), as do King Crimson ca. '72-'74.  Joy Division actually are another one who really "brought it," Ace-style, on a nightly basis: no two concerts of theirs are alike, different setlists every night, and each show is hauntingly intense.  I have literally every single Joy Division concert ever taped (and openly circulated) and damn near most of them are worth listening to.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 10:00 PM (n/+FT)

423 Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2013 11:16 PM (K5R1m)

Wow. Just... congratulations.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 23, 2013 10:01 PM (d7tB2)

424 >>>Why, thank you! I assume you were talking about "Unknown Pleasures", an album with actual influence

Heh, well I just praised Joy Division's live act in the previous post so obviously I'm a fan.  And Unknown Pleasures IS a fantastic album.  Hugely influential (though it didn't spring out of nowhere -- Bowie's Low and Iggy Pop's The Idiot are but two obvious precursors) and really great, but you know what?  It's not perfect.  Murmur is perfect.  Unknown Pleasures has stuff like "Day Of The Lords," "Candidate," and "I Remember Nothing" -- you'd be a poseur turd to say these songs are BAD, but they're still noticeable dips in quality. 

Meanwhile Murmur starts with track one and (amazingly, breathtakingly, miraculously) simply does not let up for one second until it's finished.  It goes from strength to strength, with not a single song about which you would think "eh, I'll skip this one to get to the next."  Every time you think it can't improve, it goes from a "Pilgrimage" to a "Laughing" to a "Talk About The Passion."  Or from "Perfect Circle" to "Catapult" to "Sitting Still" to "Shaking Through"...you'd be hard-pressed to present a better four-song sequence in last forty years of rock history, and this was their debut album.  I mean, holy crap!  Their first record!  The maturity, right out of the gate! 

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 10:08 PM (n/+FT)

425 Jeff, have you ever listened to MGMT?

Posted by: CAC at September 23, 2013 10:09 PM (KZTw3)

426 >>>Jeff, have you ever listened to MGMT?

Nope.  Pretty deficient when it comes to most modern (non-Radiohead) music.  Have heard of them but aren't familiar.  Should I check them out? 

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 10:12 PM (n/+FT)

427 @AP: 

Was checking out the Prime World game since you mentioned it on the gaming thread.   Interesting concept; I think I hit that quest you were complaining about.   Think it's something one has to grind the game a bit to complete.  

Did you try the PvP mode at all? 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 23, 2013 10:12 PM (0wHyk)

428 421 buzzion: not sure I would want for Twitter to "repurpose" accounts after two years. I think they should probably just delete those accounts. For instance, it's coming up on two years since Andrew Breitbart died. I'm not sure I would want to see some lefty group take over his account. Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2013 01:55 AM (xY8+2) Treat certified/authenticated accounts differently then. But really does "cougarhunter2010" really need his account to be around if it hasn't been touched in 3 years?

Posted by: Buzzion at September 23, 2013 10:13 PM (LI48c)

429 My basic metric when somebody recommends a modern American rock group to me is "okay, on a scale of 1 to 'Pavement', where do they rank?" 

Because I consider Pavement to be finest American band of the last 25 years or so.  Nirvana is a joke compared to Pavement's ridiculous, unstoppable, decade-long consistency  We're talking about a band whose B-sides and BBC sessions and outtakes are every bit as good as their albums, and their albums were epochal.  That's the standard against which all must be measured.  Slanted And Enchanted, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain, Wowee Zowee, and Brighten The Corners: four pillars of '90s rock.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 10:14 PM (n/+FT)

430 When I would leave food on the plate I'd get the "there are starving kids in (Africa/Asia) that would love to get what you have." My response was "OK let's pack it up and ship it to them." First time I heard that, I was about 10 yrs old from one of 3 of my chatty and catty Aunts who were over for some reason I don't remember while my Mom was serving me & my little brother dinner. Perhaps I was being a little brat but in my defense, it was Stuffed Green Peppers, Glaaargh! Aaaack! Nnngrrph! Pleh, gaaaasp... (To this day, even with my much more sophisticated adult palate, I think that is some vile, vile shit.) So, when my Mom (who had known for at least 5 years how much I hated that particular dish) asked me what I had to say about that,in front of an audience, I felt a bit picked on. I said, "Excuse me, please." got up from the table, went to the desk in the next room, pulled out a manilla envelope from the drawer, came back into the kitchen and said to my Mom, in front of her sisters, "This should work but I don't know how many stamps." ... I don't know who was more shocked at what I had just done, me, my Mom or my Aunts. Dead. Fucking. Silence. If I were ever to get a swat at that advanced age that would have done it, right there. Mom saved face for all of us by pointing out that the dish was probably too sloppy to be mailed, admonishing me that if I didn't want to eat it, I certainly couldn't have ice-cream for dessert much less a snack later on and I would have to do ALL the dishes, even though it wasn't my turn. I've had this story retold to me numerous times from other perspectives that I will have to take as true that no kid ever looked so giddy at the prospect of being denied ice-cream, going to bed hungry and doing extra chores as I did when I got to dump that nasty mess into the trash. Mom never made me eat Stuffed Green Peppers again although she would occaisionaly prepare it for herself from time to time.

Posted by: Deety at September 23, 2013 10:24 PM (JOXw+)

431 430 My basic metric when somebody recommends a modern American rock group to me is "okay, on a scale of 1 to 'Pavement', where do they rank?"

Because I consider Pavement to be finest American band of the last 25 years or so. Nirvana is a joke compared to Pavement's ridiculous, unstoppable, decade-long consistency We're talking about a band whose B-sides and BBC sessions and outtakes are every bit as good as their albums, and their albums were epochal. That's the standard against which all must be measured. Slanted And Enchanted, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain, Wowee Zowee, and Brighten The Corners: four pillars of '90s rock.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 02:14 AM (n/+FT)


--Finest American band of the last 25 years is like the finest Oklahoman wine of the last 125 years.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2013 10:25 PM (bufJH)

432 >>>Finest American band of the last 25 years is like the finest Oklahoman wine of the last 125 years.

Says a guy who obviously hasn't heard Pavement.

Anyway, g'night all.  'Till tomorrow.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 23, 2013 10:27 PM (n/+FT)

433 Nope. Pretty deficient when it comes to most modern (non-Radiohead) music. Have heard of them but aren't familiar. Should I check them out? Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 02:12 AM (n/+FT) Yes. They're the closest thing to modern psychedelic rock out there. Take the best of Tangerine Dream and mix it with Floyd before Waters went mental and self-indulgent.

Posted by: CAC at September 23, 2013 10:30 PM (KZTw3)

434 Says a guy who obviously hasn't heard Pavement.

Anyway, g'night all. 'Till tomorrow.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 24, 2013 02:27 AM (n/+FT)


--I was a DJ at a college radio station from 1990-93.  Good, but overrated.

Posted by: logprof at September 23, 2013 10:30 PM (bufJH)

435 Hello?


Echo!!!


Echo!!


Echo!

Posted by: Airplane! at September 23, 2013 10:41 PM (bufJH)

436

Nearly 2 million of First Lady Michelle ObamaÂ’s Twitter followers are not real.

According to the Twitter analytics application Status People, 37 percent of Michelle Obama’s 5,290, 506 Twitter followers — or approximately 1,957,487 followers — are considered fake. Thirty-five percent of her followers are inactive, and 28 percent are considered “good,” or real.

 

 

 

I'm shocked!  Now how do I do that shocked emoticon?  Come on, I'm an old dude.

So maybe the 100% turnout in precincts in battleground state might be fake?  Every freaking voter made it to the polls and voted for Bronco Bama?  Why is no one looking into this, at least to expose that voter fraud does exist?

Posted by: The Farmer at September 23, 2013 10:42 PM (eBupg)

437 --I was a DJ at a college radio station from 1990-93. Good, but overrated.

 

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2013 02:30 AM

 

 

Yeah. Every band sucks except Helix. They fucking rock.

Posted by: ricky at September 23, 2013 10:46 PM (9gNQd)

438 Me:  so, how was the show?



Him:  dunno, I'm still trying to figure out whether or not that band is 1/32 of a kumquat better than the last band I saw, or 2/63's of a watermelon seed worse than the band I saw 3 shows ago.



Me:  why don't you just check the box score?




Him:  they don't keep score in music.



Me:  exactly.

Posted by: jc at September 23, 2013 10:47 PM (PlzOe)

439 Mom never made me eat Stuffed Green Peppers again although she would occaisionaly prepare it for herself from time to time.

Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013

 

I have never eaten that evil food and prolly never will.  My wife used to make it when I grew green peepers for her and she froze the rest to eat later.  Never touched one of the nasty things.

 

Took me years to realize I didn't like them because peppery, spicy stuff upset my stomach.  I like what I like and don't like being miserable.

Posted by: The Farmer at September 23, 2013 10:51 PM (eBupg)

440 Hope it's not too late to say goodnight to Jeff B. I really enjoy his music posts.

The Farmer: you don't like anything spicy?!? Geez, spicy food is about the only kind I eat anymore. You don't even like Tabasco??

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 10:57 PM (xY8+2)

441 MGMT?

 

Posted by: CAC at September 24, 2013 02:09 AM

 

 

They're not bad at all. Definitely a Floyd thing going on. Catchy stuff.

Posted by: ricky at September 23, 2013 11:00 PM (9gNQd)

442 So, right before the BH flew out, the TV in the living room nuts -- it's an old 32" 4:3 tube TV, and it started turning itself on-and-off and constantly incrementing channels. I opened it up and blew out the dust, but it's still doing it -- so, today, researched, purchased, and set up a replacement 16:9 LED widget.



Research consisted in going to Walmart, Fry's, and Best Buy and jotting down actual TVs on sale and prices, then going to Consumer Reports and seeing what they had to say about them [they've sent me out after phantom products way too many times]. Then going to Amazon to check online prices and user reviews. Ended up with a 47-inch Vizio from Wallyworld.....which had been the first place I went and one of the first ones I'd noticed -- but, y'know, the burn when you feel ripped-off....



I had previously calculated that we'd need a 40-inch 16:9 to match the same image size as we had on the 32-inch 4:3 when showing 4:3 content, and the width of the stand meant that it would start to hang over the sides when the screen got about 48", so I knew it should be 39-50 inches. The 47 looks fine. I've augmented the base with 16 lbs. of dive weights, so it acts like it's glued to the stand (earthquake country).

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2013 11:01 PM (T1005)

443 off raveen sock

Posted by: otho at September 23, 2013 11:01 PM (9gNQd)

444 cthulhu: Vizio is an excellent choice. I'd say it was about seven or eight years ago when I needed to help my Mom choose her first HD TV, and we went with a 42-inch LCD Vizio from Sears. (No, their prices and selection aren't the greatest, but she loves that she can charge to her Sears card with no interest for six months). Anyway long story a little shorter, that Vizio is still going strong in her living room.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:04 PM (xY8+2)

445 cthulhu: one of the ways I knew I was a hopeless nerd back when I was a pre-teen was that while all my friends (okay, all two of them) were reading MAD Magazine religiously at the time, I was already a nut for Consumer Reports and bugging my parents to use it more when they had to make major purchases.

Like you said, CR does unfortunately carry a lot of "phantom" products. I learned the hard way that they're extremely New York-centric, i.e., they'll often recommend products from companies that have *never* offered their items in the western U.S.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:06 PM (xY8+2)

446 Okay, guess the thread's dead.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:14 PM (xY8+2)

447 445 cthulhu: Vizio is an excellent choice. I'd say it was about seven or eight years ago when I needed to help my Mom choose her first HD TV, and we went with a 42-inch LCD Vizio from Sears. (No, their prices and selection aren't the greatest, but she loves that she can charge to her Sears card with no interest for six months). Anyway long story a little shorter, that Vizio is still going strong in her living room.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2013 03:04 AM (xY8+2)



I'm pretty happy with it -- and got to confirm one of CR's observations firsthand before I whipped out the card and charged it -- if you stand next to the "wall of screens" and look down the row, it's one of the brighter ones, because it has a better than average viewing angle. There were some that were completely dark from my vantage.



I also managed to repair the bluray player that goes to it. The disc drawer was stuck shut but the display was reading "open", so I took it apart, opened the drawer, put it back together, and reapplied the power. All-in-all, very successful doing stuff that should be appreciated by the BH....and I've watched more TV today than I probably have watched, combined, over the last five years, just getting everything set up.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2013 11:15 PM (T1005)

448 446 cthulhu: one of the ways I knew I was a hopeless nerd back when I was a pre-teen was that while all my friends (okay, all two of them) were reading MAD Magazine religiously at the time, I was already a nut for Consumer Reports and bugging my parents to use it more when they had to make major purchases.

Like you said, CR does unfortunately carry a lot of "phantom" products. I learned the hard way that they're extremely New York-centric, i.e., they'll often recommend products from companies that have *never* offered their items in the western U.S.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2013 03:06 AM (xY8+2)



Like many other organizations, they've been sipping the progressive poison when it comes to public policy. They haven't started gulping it, yet, but it has tainted their high-minded objectivity ("we buy the stuff we rate from retailers, and never have ads!" ....but "we should review Air Conditioners with a view toward how much they contribute to global warming").

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2013 11:18 PM (T1005)

449 Scientific American -- a magazine I enjoyed for DECADES since I was a kid -- became Unscientific Bushwah when they went totally in the tank for progressive politics. Everything from climate science to "The Epidemiology of Gun Violence". I dropped 'em about a decade ago and no longer consider anything they publish worthy of trust.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2013 11:21 PM (T1005)

450 Took me years to realize I didn't like them because peppery, spicy stuff upset my stomach. I like what I like and don't like being miserable. Eh, there are plenty of peppers that I really enjoy because of thier "hotness" also I do appreciate a spicy kick from other ingredients much of the time. Bell peppers just don't rate as "spicy" at all, in my book although there is a certain objectionable "grassy" flavor that I found out is genetically linked to about 8% of the population. 9 out of 10 people just don't taste it. I can get over it if I roast the yellow ones and carmelize them enough to make me overlook the bitter grassy taste, I've found. With enough steak. Bell peppers are sturdy and colorful and I will rarely use them raw in salads I am preparing for others to eat. But man, once you cook that stuff in a stew or something?... The nasty slimy texture of roasting them with wet stuffing inside? Blergh! You could have a casserole the size of a swimming pool and I swear, one cubic inch in the center would be enough to taint the whole dish for my brother and me. "You don't have to eat the peppers, just eat the filling!" caused me to flee the kitchen in inarticulate tears when I was 5. Though, I hear that some people despise Cilantro, which I lurve, because it "tastes like soap" to them. Huh.

Posted by: Deety at September 23, 2013 11:22 PM (JOXw+)

451 cthulhu, right. It was that way with CR back in the 1980s too. They did lots of stuff on how the Reagan admin was supposedly weakening the FTC and stuff like that.

I also became annoyed after a while that they were constantly high-rating foreign cars and putting down American-made cars. But then later I realized they were only telling the truth on that front. These days, they seem to like American-made better (especially the "flex-fuel"). They still seem to hate Chrysler though, except for Jeep. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:22 PM (xY8+2)

452 Deety: in my humble experience, cilantro *does* turn food into soap, if too much of it gets added. But it's fine if you add just a tiny bit. I learned this the hard way while figuring out how to make homemade salsa.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:25 PM (xY8+2)

453 451 Took me years to realize I didn't like them because peppery, spicy stuff upset my stomach. I like what I like and don't like being miserable.

Eh, there are plenty of peppers that I really enjoy because of thier "hotness" also I do appreciate a spicy kick from other ingredients much of the time.

Bell peppers just don't rate as "spicy" at all, in my book although there is a certain objectionable "grassy" flavor that I found out is genetically linked to about 8% of the population. 9 out of 10 people just don't taste it.

I can get over it if I roast the yellow ones and carmelize them enough to make me overlook the bitter grassy taste, I've found. With enough steak.

Bell peppers are sturdy and colorful and I will rarely use them raw in salads I am preparing for others to eat. But man, once you cook that stuff in a stew or something?... The nasty slimy texture of roasting them with wet stuffing inside?

Blergh!

You could have a casserole the size of a swimming pool and I swear, one cubic inch in the center would be enough to taint the whole dish for my brother and me. "You don't have to eat the peppers, just eat the filling!" caused me to flee the kitchen in inarticulate tears when I was 5.

Though, I hear that some people despise Cilantro, which I lurve, because it "tastes like soap" to them.

Huh.

Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 03:22 AM (JOXw+)



Hmmm....I actually lean the other way -- I think the abomination of stuffed peppers is because the stuffing positively oozes horrible grease into a puddle in the pepper. I'd be inclined to try cooking it and roasting the pepper separately and then plating the stuffing into the pepper.


Do you like kabobs with meat, pepper slices, and onions on skewers? They have 'em here that way in grocery stores.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2013 11:28 PM (T1005)

454 I've found that diced bell peppers add something special to chili. Don't ask me why.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:29 PM (xY8+2)

455 Breaking News:  North Carolina Central University's campus is on lockdown after reports of shots fired near Cecil Street and Alston Avenue, according to an email alert from NCCU police. A university spokeswoman said police are searching for a possible gunman, but that no injuries have been reported.
http://tinyurl.com/mouj8hx

Posted by: miriam at September 23, 2013 11:32 PM (Nx76m)

456 452 cthulhu, right. It was that way with CR back in the 1980s too. They did lots of stuff on how the Reagan admin was supposedly weakening the FTC and stuff like that.

I also became annoyed after a while that they were constantly high-rating foreign cars and putting down American-made cars. But then later I realized they were only telling the truth on that front. These days, they seem to like American-made better (especially the "flex-fuel"). They still seem to hate Chrysler though, except for Jeep. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2013 03:22 AM (xY8+2)



Remember their big thing with, IIRC, Isuzu SUV's and rollovers? I remember reading all that and thinking, "mountains out of molehills" -- but, then, one day I'm toolin' down a freeway here and this SUV next to me starts creeping into my lane like they don't see me. So I give a short toot on the horn, and they twitch back out of my lane.....then across three lanes of traffic and halfway up the concrete barrier, then back across the three lanes of traffic and rolled -- all of which I witnessed, shocked, in my rear-view mirror. I pulled into the median and called 911, then started backing toward the mess, but when I got there one of the other people already on the scene was an actual EMT on his way to work. People in the SUV were shaken, but ok.



Got me to thinking that the rollover tests that they were jumping up and down about might have a big more substance than I'd previously credited them with....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2013 11:38 PM (T1005)

457 I'm pretty happy with it -- and got to confirm one of CR's observations firsthand before I whipped out the card and charged it -- if you stand next to the "wall of screens" and look down the row, it's one of the brighter ones, because it has a better than average viewing angle. There were some that were completely dark from my vantage. Huh. Good catch! I hadn't thought about it that way. So I suppose there is some use for the Brick & Mortar stores as appliance showcases after all.

Posted by: Deety at September 23, 2013 11:38 PM (JOXw+)

458 Oh, I forgot.  Fuck John McCain.


You may now return to your regularly scheduled ONT.

Posted by: jc at September 23, 2013 11:43 PM (PlzOe)

459 458 I'm pretty happy with it -- and got to confirm one of CR's observations firsthand before I whipped out the card and charged it -- if you stand next to the "wall of screens" and look down the row, it's one of the brighter ones, because it has a better than average viewing angle. There were some that were completely dark from my vantage.

Huh. Good catch!

I hadn't thought about it that way. So I suppose there is some use for the Brick & Mortar stores as appliance showcases after all.

Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 03:38 AM (JOXw+)



The one I got cost exactly the same on Amazon (free shipping) or in Walmart. Since Amazon does sales taxes now, there was not a dime's difference. Much as I'd have liked to throw the purchase to Ace's Amazon store, the idea of having UPS leave the thing on my doorstep while I was out running errands had little appeal -- so, yeah, bricks and mortar wins one!

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2013 11:43 PM (T1005)

460 cthulhu: I believe I remember the SUV you're talking about. It was by Suzuki, and very popular... until CR published its report labeling it "Not Acceptable" for safety reasons.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:44 PM (xY8+2)

461 So, when my Mom (who had known for at least 5 years how much I hated that particular dish) asked me what I had to say about that,in front of an audience, I felt a bit picked on. Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 02:24 AM (JOXw+) Food Nazis are everywhere. That's just an earlier variant than M. Obama. My family eventually came to grips, after a few decades. PS I find that if I eat something with bell peppers, everything else I eat or drink for 24 hours tastes like belle peppers.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 11:45 PM (yoh1c)

462 cthulhu: exactly right re B&M. Plus sometimes it's just worth a few extra dollars IMHO to me to be able to take someething home and play with it *today*, versus a week from now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2013 11:46 PM (xY8+2)

463 461 cthulhu: I believe I remember the SUV you're talking about. It was by Suzuki, and very popular... until CR published its report labeling it "Not Acceptable" for safety reasons.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2013 03:44 AM (xY8+2)



Yeah, there was this period where they were the first ones to test for rollover when you swerved, and they netted a lot of fish. Suzukis were just plain horrible -- you could barely steer without rolling. But I'm still thinking that the one that got to be a big fracas was Isuzu. The reason being was that they actually tried to fight it by suing CR for a retraction.....and CR was going "we said that we got it going to X speed, then turned it Y far, and it rolled -- what's to retract?" and the company said, "but you said that was bad!" and CR was going, "what are you, stupid? Of course that's bad." Like I said, I was going, "mountains out of molehills." After I saw an actual rollover like they were talking about, up close and personal, I was on team CR for that scrap.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2013 11:51 PM (T1005)

464 As far as the Suzuki Samurai, I don't like 'em and wouldn't reccomend them, but to get the results CR got they had to make a machine that would turn the wheel to and fro in a very un-human way, and add weights in odd places in the car. PS that event you saw, Cooth, was classic overreaction and loss of control, I saw a Corolla do that here, rather miraculously back and forth across four lanes of traffic without hitting anyone else, and then roll off the side. Did not look lethal but I wasn't about to lock up traffic trying to get over there with emergency vehicle lights already in the rear view (talk about timing). http://preview.tinyurl.com/bu3vs3h No institution is trustworthy. Double-check everything.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 11:53 PM (yoh1c)

465 CR settled with Suzuki because they were shown, definitively, to have not only changed their standards for one car, but falsified the tests. The Samurai passed the same tests that everyone else did. It's still a popular cheapo offroad car in come circles. I happen to think it's crap, but it doesn't randomly jump onto its roof. CR lied. They claimed something happened that didn't and essentially drove the car off the market. That's definitely not up to moral spec.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 11:56 PM (yoh1c)

466 Anyone still awake here really needs to read this -- http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=224576 -- so they can later go to bed still chuckling.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2013 11:59 PM (T1005)

467 in my humble experience, cilantro *does* turn food into soap, if too much of it gets added. But it's fine if you add just a tiny bit. I learned this the hard way while figuring out how to make homemade salsa. Yeah. I can see that. I got introduced to cilantro in the late 80's from a Columbian lady in the suburbs of Chicago when fresh herbs were pretty unheard of. Back in the day when Parsley meannt that curly woody crap restaurants would seve as a "garnish". I lurve flat-leaf parlsey to add color and "brightness" to dishes and am amazed that both fresh parsley and cilantro are readily available in most supermarkets nowadays. Too bad they look too much alike, even to the check-out clerks. Cilantro should be used judiciously I agree but I'm all over combining as much fresh chopped parsley as one thinks is "festive" enough once all other ingredients are tasted and balanced. Never heard of such a thing as a dish being "over-parsleyed".

Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 12:04 AM (JOXw+)

468 OK -- now with new, improved, fact-checking.



The 1988 Suzuki thing was bullshit where CR was very probably in the wrong. They were doing rollover tests when nobody else was and decided to draw some blood to publicize them.....by picking on a minor player in the car market. In 1996, CU was tootling their horn in an anniversary issue for having improved safety in '88 by unfairly crucifying Suzuki, and Suzuki sued -- eventually settling with no money changing hands or retracting, but CU agreeing never to mention the Suzuki thing again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Reports



However -- the 1997 thing with the Isuzu Trooper was a different car in a different time. AKA the Acura SLX, this little gem also caused a defamation lawsuit....that got summary judgmented in CU's favor. http://tinyurl.com/kjqn5vs




Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 12:15 AM (T1005)

469 468 in my humble experience, cilantro *does* turn food into soap, if too much of it gets added. But it's fine if you add just a tiny bit. I learned this the hard way while figuring out how to make homemade salsa.

Yeah. I can see that. I got introduced to cilantro in the late 80's from a Columbian lady in the suburbs of Chicago when fresh herbs were pretty unheard of. Back in the day when Parsley meannt that curly woody crap restaurants would seve as a "garnish".

I lurve flat-leaf parlsey to add color and "brightness" to dishes and am amazed that both fresh parsley and cilantro are readily available in most supermarkets nowadays. Too bad they look too much alike, even to the check-out clerks.

Cilantro should be used judiciously I agree but I'm all over combining as much fresh chopped parsley as one thinks is "festive" enough once all other ingredients are tasted and balanced.

Never heard of such a thing as a dish being "over-parsleyed".

Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 04:04 AM (JOXw+)



Medicinally, parsley is packed with vitamins and minerals -- and freshens the breath! -- but only if you eat it.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 12:18 AM (T1005)

470 well folks, guess it's time to turn in. Thanks for all the good chat. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 24, 2013 12:23 AM (xY8+2)

471 Cthulhu, the Wikipedia entry is EXTREMELY tendentious in favor of CR and completely omits the video and testimony of the *actual technician* doing the testing. I honestly don't know what the judge was smoking in that case. The technician pointed out that they tested the vehicle at higher speeds and with other variables they did not use on other vehicles and were only abel to get two tires off the ground on the 47th try. This is why wikipedia is worse than useless. If someone with elevated privileges has a preference or a bone to pick, the entry is just wrong, or critical information is left out. And it can change at any time. It's like an anti-encyclopedia.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 24, 2013 12:25 AM (yoh1c)

472 "That case" being the initial case that was denied.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 24, 2013 12:29 AM (yoh1c)

473 I should point out that the twin Consumer Reports stories actually reinforce my point about "sipping from the poison of progressivism." CU starts testing for rollover before the Feds do because they believe it's gosh-darn important. Everybody yawns, because the Feds do all the testing necessary and more besides. But, since it's gosh-darn important, CU decides to rig data and perform character assassination to heighten concern about their pet issue, 'cause it's for the chilluns....



A decade later, it's important, and they actually find a vehicle that has that problem....but since they shot their wad 10 years earlier, everyone is figuring that they're up to their same BS again and the manufacturer figures that they'll sue and wrap this up.....until it turns out that, yes, these vehicles actually have the real problem.




That's why it's sipping. They do a lot of good stuff -- dreary, dull drudgery that they save shoppers from doing themselves.....but every so often, they want to drive the status quo, move the overton window, change what is acceptable.....and the little proggies come out to lie and slander and spin.




Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 12:30 AM (T1005)

474 "Rush's exit stage left is also a killer live album."

I prefer "All the World's a Stage" also Blue Oyster Cult's "On Your Feet or On Your Knees" but maybe that's because I saw both show's the same night


Posted by: AR-15 at September 24, 2013 12:31 AM (bjND7)

475 472 Cthulhu, the Wikipedia entry is EXTREMELY tendentious in favor of CR and completely omits the video and testimony of the *actual technician* doing the testing.

I honestly don't know what the judge was smoking in that case.

The technician pointed out that they tested the vehicle at higher speeds and with other variables they did not use on other vehicles and were only abel to get two tires off the ground on the 47th try.

This is why wikipedia is worse than useless. If someone with elevated privileges has a preference or a bone to pick, the entry is just wrong, or critical information is left out. And it can change at any time.

It's like an anti-encyclopedia.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 24, 2013 04:25 AM (yoh1c)



Wikipedia is a useful shortcut. I didn't link everything I skimmed before I posted. Yeah, the Suzuki thing was clearly jumping a minor player because they wouldn't have the resources to defend themselves......but the Isuzu Trooper -- I think that was a fair cop.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 12:33 AM (T1005)

476 475 "Rush's exit stage left is also a killer live album."

I prefer "All the World's a Stage" also Blue Oyster Cult's "On Your Feet or On Your Knees" but maybe that's because I saw both show's the same night


Posted by: AR-15 at September 24, 2013 04:31 AM (bjND7)



How the hell did you do that? Those were both massive shows, and there are very few cities with more than one venue that could handle 'em -- and fewer still that would run them at different times.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 12:35 AM (T1005)

477 467 Now. That. Is. Funny!

Posted by: AR-15 at September 24, 2013 12:41 AM (bjND7)

478 Off Black Sock!

Posted by: bill-o at September 24, 2013 12:42 AM (bjND7)

479 IsSuuZu Twooper! Eh. I took the right two tires of my new RAV-4 (That I'm still driving and love!) an inch or so off the ground making a way too hard left over two lanes of traffic to make a turn for a sales appointment in 2002. In ARIZONA. ops: I was used to driving very low to the ground cars like Caddys and Lincolns and Mustangs in places like Chicago where they use fucking STREET ADDRESSES! Or, alternately, when I was coming in from the suburbs from the Eisenhower to LSD via Lower Wacker for rehearsal (with an onion on my belt) was what teenagers did before Grand Theft Auto was even a possibility. Scared the bejeebers out of me, that tippy moment, it did! Since learned not to give a fuck and employ U-Turns and "Suicide Lanes" and just be cool on the gas pedal at lights and beleive that no matter where you are in Tucson and where you need to be it ALWAYS takes an half hour. No matter if you are early, late or right on time you have to wait at least 15min. for your appt. to show up. (The 1/2 hour rule also applies to locations that SHOULD take 45 min. Don't know how this works but somehow, I can always, on the fly, guesstimate the best routes to take to get me somewhere 15min. early. Oh, great.)

Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 12:49 AM (JOXw+)

480 ATL 1977, Fox Theatre. It wasn't at the actual recording venues, both records had already been cut, but I heard pretty much every song on both albums.

Posted by: bill-o at September 24, 2013 12:50 AM (bjND7)

481 481 ATL 1977, Fox Theatre. It wasn't at the actual recording venues, both records had already been cut, but I heard pretty much every song on both albums.

Posted by: bill-o at September 24, 2013 04:50 AM (bjND7)



Was it a double-bill, or two separate tickets? I'd gathered that it was the tours, rather than the actual recorded shows, but I'm still amazed that they'd both hit the same venue on the same date.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 12:57 AM (T1005)

482 Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 04:49 AM (JOXw+)



It's not like I don't know tippy -- growing up where I did, half the vehicles on the road were pickups, and they do interesting things on corners depending on what you're hauling. But the rise of the SUV did have the risk that car drivers in seemingly car bodies mounted high off the ground on truck chassis could be a safety issue.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 01:02 AM (T1005)

483 Actually it was a triple bill: the opening act was not so memorable....Pat Travers maybe, then Rush and BOC was headline. Was a most excellent show...Party on Garth

Posted by: bill-o at September 24, 2013 01:06 AM (bjND7)

484 I long for the day when we an all get along, kive in harmony and love each other. Black, white, brown, yellow. Young old, poor rich, but not the scandis!

Posted by: UWP at September 24, 2013 01:07 AM (vj51i)

485 Whew! You wouldn't think a few beers, then a couple long islands, and a shot and another beer would have hit me as hard as it did last night. But it did!

Posted by: UWP at September 24, 2013 01:10 AM (vj51i)

486 I suggested another article to read tonight, so you'd go to sleep with a grin....here's one to read tomorrow -- http://tinyurl.com/ohx6z4j

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 01:31 AM (T1005)

487 I just suggested that paddypower should open a wager on when Ben Bernanke is added to the US drone list. Given that it would allow Congress to deflect blame for upcoming events, I'm thinking it's inevitable....but the exact day is sufficiently murky to have bets.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 01:40 AM (T1005)

488 You guys aren't being very fun.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 01:57 AM (T1005)

489 Do you like kabobs with meat, pepper slices, and onions on skewers? They have 'em here that way in grocery stores.
Nope, I do not. Not at all. I am NOT a grill master, AT ALL! (I usually leave that up to my sexhey boyfriends when I gots one or two!) That's the most retarded progressive way to cook food that I can think of! It's just damn stupid! Honestly! I'm okay with prepping the individual ingredients and putting them on a stick for the the final char for the "drama" or whatever but that's an incredibly stupid way to "cook" your meats and veggies. I long ago gave up with the sticks of cubed meat & veg, along with tiki-torches. If you try to cook chunks of veggie and meats on sticks over flame you are bound to be dissapointed by either the chewiness of the meat or the rawnewss of the veg or probably the chewiness and the rawness of BOTH! Unless you are close to starving in the wilderness, I don't see the appeal of half-ass cooking protiens like weasles and veggies like pine knots (are those poisonus?) on a stick.

Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 02:00 AM (JOXw+)

490 Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 06:00 AM (JOXw+)


At Disney World's Polynesian resort, there is a restaurant "Ohana" [http://tinyurl.com/kwavvza ] that serves veggies and "stuff roasted on a skewer". From when I first encountered it, I thought it was genius -- 'cause humans went through a "stuff on a skewer" phase in every corner of the globe, somewhere around the paleolithic....and it's always been viable since. It's dressed up as polynesian, but it could be valid in any culture on the planet.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 24, 2013 02:10 AM (T1005)

491

Hi enjoy reading your blog.

Your anti-Nordic picture is of a Saami (Laplander) with his reindeer, not a Nordic, who only kill reindeer to drink their blood. Though the Saami are bastards too.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 24, 2013 05:12 AM (Hvdk6)

492 From when I first encountered it, I thought it was genius -- 'cause humans went through a "stuff on a skewer" phase in every corner of the globe, somewhere around the paleolithic....and it's always been viable since. I suppose... But you can't convince me that "mastodon on a stick" is the same as the unholy combination of hard veggies and cubed protiens that can't possibly be cooked properly together by waving them around (all assemmbled willy-nilly) over heat, on a stick. "Stuff on a Skewer" prolly had more to do with burning off hairs and feathers and shit as it ever did a gazpacho.

Posted by: Deety at September 24, 2013 06:47 AM (JOXw+)

493 test tset

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