September 26, 2013
— Maetenloch
A longish article by Ed Driscoll. I'll just bait you with this quote by Lee Harris on why socialism will never die.
Sorel, for whom religion was important, drew a comparison between the Christian and the socialist revolutionary. The Christian's life is transformed because he accepts the myth that Christ will one day return and usher in the end of time; the revolutionary socialist's life is transformed because he accepts the myth that one day socialism will triumph, and justice for all will prevail. What mattered for Sorel, in both cases, is not the scientific truth or falsity of the myth believed in, but what believing in the myth does to the lives of those who have accepted it, and who refuse to be daunted by the repeated failure of their apocalyptic expectations. How many times have Christians in the last two thousand years been convinced that the Second Coming was at hand, only to be bitterly disappointed - yet none of these disappointments was ever enough to keep them from holding on to their great myth. So, too, Sorel argued, the myth of socialism will continue to have power, despite the various failures of socialist experiments, so long as there are revolutionaries who are unwilling to relinquish their great myth. That is why he rejected scientific socialism - if it was merely science, it lacked the power of a religion to change individual's lives. Thus for Sorel there was "an.analogy between religion and the revolutionary Socialism which aims at the apprenticeship, preparation, and even the reconstruction of the individual - a gigantic task."
Is It Time For Conservatives To Sit Down In The Snow?
A classic column by William Jacobson. Even more apropos today than it was in 2008.
Andrew Dice Clay, 'Dads' and PC Push-Back
Chuck Klosterman explains Clay's brief super-popularity as a reaction to political correctness:
Every casual conversation suddenly had the potential to get someone fired. It was a great era for white people hoping to feel less racist by accusing other white people of being very, very racist. A piece of art could be classified as sexist simply because it ignored the concept of sexism. Any intended message mattered less than the received message, and every received message could be interpreted in whatever way the receiver wanted. So this became a problem for everybody. It was painlessly oppressive, and the backlash was stupid and adversarial. It drove artists to linguistic extremes, and it drove audiences to Andrew Dice Clay.
And Sonny Bunch thinks we're now in a similar PC era and Fox's new series 'Dads' is a sign of another popular reaction to it.
But I also think we've headed into another period that helped spawn the likes of Clay. There are a number of critics who spend their time worrying about the morally and politically problematic nature of the entertainments offered us. They chide the networks for failing to understand the enlightened world in which we live. Like the censors/censurers of old-the Moral Majority, the Parents Television Council-they are worried about audiences being corrupted. They dismiss these entertainments as "not funny" when what they mean is "offensive to my sensibilities and therefore not worthy of laughing at and oh, by the way, you're a bad person for enjoying it."
This popped up on my iphone's shuffle a few days ago and since then it's been constantly playing in my head. Which is...okay since I like the song.
"Six or eight thousand years ago
They laid down the law."
4 Cities That hate Their Residents
And so they torture them. Like Pittsburgh where they give out tickets for parking in your own driveway.
Getting a parking ticket is one of those little joys that throws normally civilized human beings into a teeth-gnashing rage. And the people of Pittsburgh are currently so incensed over this issue, you'd think they were getting ticketed for parking in their own driveways. Wait, they actually are?
You see, back in the mid-20th century, a law was passed saying that all vehicles in certain areas had to be parked at least 30 feet from the road. Now, the Bureau of Building Inspection has suddenly begun issuing tickets as high as fucking $2,400 for parking in a space that by definition is meant to park cars in. Just out of the blue, on random streets. This is forcing Pittsburghers to either find commercial lots or try to cram their cars behind the 30-foot line -- one pregnant citizen now has to climb through her passenger door every time she needs to go be pregnant in public.
You Might Be in the Ghetto If...
Atlas Shrugged Producers Looking for Handout After the Invisible Hand Wanked
So claims Vince Mancini of Film Drunk who I usually enjoy:
When Shruggalos John Aglialoro and Harmon Kaslow couldn't get socialist Hollywood to follow through with making an Atlas Shrugged movie, they produced it themselves, releasing it on tax day in 2011, when it earned $4.6 million on a $20 million budget. A second installment made $3.3 million in 2012, and now the producers are on Kickstarter raising money for a third installment, Atlas Shrugged: Who is John Galt?, with a video featuring celebrity Shruggalos Dennis Miller, Sean Hannity, John Stossel, Penn Jillette, Glenn Beck, and that one fat guy with no forehead. WHO'S LOOKING FOR HANDOUTS NOW, PAULTARDS?!?
Okay I get the desire to knock the Paultards around but here he's dead wrong (or possibly very, very tongue-in-cheek). Raising money from people voluntarily for a project is not a handout - it's capitalism.
Mystery Asteroid is Apollo 12 Saturn V Stage
Keep an eye out on Ebay in 25 years or so.
You know you want to see it.
Geena Davis Shows Off Archery Skillz
There's no crying in archery.
It's All Fun and Games Until You Fuck With the Russians and Their Oil
As Greenpeace is discovering. They're just lucky they didn't get the usual Russian Somali pirate greeting.
Russia has opened a piracy case against Greenpeace environmental activists who attempted to scale an OAO Gazprom oil platform in the Barents Sea last week to protest Arctic drilling.
The Investigative Committee, the federal law-enforcement body conducting the probe, vowed Tuesday to bring to justice all those involved in the Sept. 18 incident "regardless of their citizenship." The crew of 30 onboard the Greenpeace vessel Arctic Sunrise includes one American, four Russians and six Britons.
Under Russian law, piracy carries a penalty of up to 15 years in prison. The activists haven't been charged.
Whenever I had to read ancient works in college I always found I preferred the Roman writers to the Greek ones. Generally they were more practical and seemed more human and tuned into the world as it is. I could easily imagine a lot of Cicero's advice coming from one of my great uncles.
Here is a letter that the Roman Stoic philosopher Lucius Annaeus Seneca wrote to his friend, Lucilius Junior, shortly before he died in 65 AD.
Greetings from Seneca to LuciliusContinue to act thus, my dear Lucilius-set yourself free for your own sake; gather and save your time, which til lately has been forced from you, or filched away, or has merely slipped from your hands. Make yourself believe the truth of my words-that certain moments are torn from us, that some are gently removed, and that others glide beyond our reach. The most disgraceful kind of loss, however, is that due to carelessness. Furthermore, if you will pay close heed to the problem, you will find that the largest portion of our life passes while we are doing ill, a goodly share while we are doing nothing, and the whole while we are doing that which is not to the purpose. What man can you show me who places any value on his time, who reckons the worth of each day, who understands that he is dying daily? For we are mistaken when we look forward to death; the major portion of death has already passed. Whatever years lie behind us are in death's hands.
Therefore, Lucilius, do as you write me that you are doing: hold every hour in your grasp. Lay hold of today's task, and you will not need to depend so much upon tomorrow's. While we are postponing, life speeds by. Nothing, Lucilius, is ours, except time. We were entrusted by nature with the ownership of this single thing, so fleeting and slippery that anyone who will can oust us from possession. What fools these mortals be! They allow the cheapest and most useless things, which can easily be replaced, to be charged in the reckoning, after they have acquired them; but they never regard themselves as in debt when they have received some of that precious commodity-time! And yet time is the one loan which even a grateful recipient cannot repay.
You may desire to know how I, who preach to you so freely, am practising. I confess frankly: my expense account balances, as you would expect from one who is free-handed but careful. I cannot boast that I waste nothing, but I can at least tell you what I am wasting, and the cause and manner of the loss; I can give you the reasons why I am a poor man. My situation, however, is the same as that of many who are reduced to slender means through no fault of their own: every one forgives them, but no one comes to their rescue.
What is the state of things, then? It is this: I do not regard a man as poor, if the little which remains is enough for him. I advise you, however, to keep what is really yours; and cannot begin too early. For, as our ancestors believed, it is too late to spare when you reach the dregs of the cask. Of that which remains at the bottom, the amount is slight, and the quality is vile. Farewell.
Yahoo group. That is all.
The group thingy. And the middle class.
And my Twitter spew.
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Posted by: Gingy at September 26, 2013 06:32 PM (jt8G9)
Posted by: this is bitchin at September 26, 2013 06:33 PM (yh6zE)
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Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 26, 2013 06:37 PM (EYfcP)
No to everything, debt limit, spending, continuing resolution, no...no...no...no...no.
Just say no. until there is a new congress.
Posted by: Moses Mohamad Owiti at September 26, 2013 06:40 PM (KZg5S)
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Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 06:43 PM (GEICT)
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Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 06:48 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2013 06:48 PM (bufJH)
it's interesting that the West never had to choose between Athens and Jerusalem, because Rome fused them both so well.
Yeah, its an Italian thing. Like their cooking.
Posted by: simplemind at September 26, 2013 06:48 PM (BmWNr)
Posted by: Gingy at September 26, 2013 06:48 PM (jt8G9)
....while chained to a cinderblock.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 06:49 PM (T1005)
We're Morons under Obama. We'll mix rubbing alcohol with orange juice if that's all we have
Posted by: kbdabear at September 26, 2013 06:49 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2013 06:50 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 06:50 PM (GEICT)
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Posted by: Jones in CO at September 26, 2013 06:51 PM (8sCoq)
Thanks Maet, for the lovely and nutritious ONT.
I am functionally semi-illiterate in at least 5 foreign languages. So I'm feeling pretty good about my progress.
'Sup y'all?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 06:51 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: otho at September 26, 2013 06:51 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 26, 2013 10:37 PM (EYfcP)
the amount is slight, and the quality is vile.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 26, 2013 06:51 PM (FaZT2)
You seen the Daily Mail article about what the soldiers found when they entered the mall in Kenya?
Been too much of a pu55y to read it. How bad?
Posted by: simplemind at September 26, 2013 06:52 PM (BmWNr)
Mr. Maet,
Does Ace have anything to do with this Cafe Press Ace of Spades T-shirts and Other Crap for sale website? I only ask because two of the items at the second and third link seems like something he would sell.
Posted by: ExSnipe at September 26, 2013 06:52 PM (57ubW)
And they failed, and fell. For what also appear to be quite comparable reasons.
Demographics. Political corruption. Debasement of the currency. A rotted military.
And allowing their rulers to don the cloaks of Emperors.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 26, 2013 06:52 PM (gqT4g)
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Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 10:50 PM (GEICT)
I saw that article but immediately thought of the stories out of Iraq - the stories of babies being ripped out of incubators. Those stories proved to be false. It looks like it would be hard to fake these new photos though.
If it is a true story then it needs to be shouted from the rooftops.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 26, 2013 06:56 PM (FaZT2)
I sure hope he has a coordinated Releasing of the Doves of Peace and Happiness when the first insurance policy is issued. I wouldn't want to miss it.
Posted by: Moses Mohamad Owiti at September 26, 2013 06:56 PM (KZg5S)
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Posted by: ExSnipe at September 26, 2013 10:52 PM
I want a t-shirt that says ...
"Stop Bumping My Elbow With Your Boobs"
Posted by: kbdabear at September 26, 2013 06:58 PM (/9IC1)
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Posted by: EC at September 26, 2013 07:00 PM (doBIb)
....while chained to a cinderblock.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 10:49 PM (T1005)
Too fucking good for them.
You seen the Daily Mail article about what the soldiers found when they entered the mall in Kenya?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 10:50 PM (GEICT)
I dunno, letting someone drown within sight of home -- and possibly within view of his loved ones -- where family and friends can easily retrieve the body....
Anyway -- no, I didn't see the Kenya mall developments.....why would I want to?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 07:00 PM (T1005)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:00 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 26, 2013 07:00 PM (vgd4f)
http://tinyurl.com/kko5xc7
I don't believe it but it's out there on twitter.
Posted by: knowledge is power at September 26, 2013 07:01 PM (Nx76m)
Posted by: Moses Mohamad Owiti at September 26, 2013 10:56 PM (KZg5S)
Hopefully they will fly right into the flames of hope.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 26, 2013 07:01 PM (FaZT2)
To be ready if those tactics make it to the US?
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 07:01 PM (N0Vub)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 10:57 PM
See? MODERATES DAMMIT !!!!
Posted by: John McCain, Now Shut Up at September 26, 2013 07:02 PM (/9IC1)
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Posted by: Thrawn at September 26, 2013 07:08 PM (Dsds2)
To be ready if those tactics make it to the US?
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 11:01 PM (N0Vub)
If you're in a mall and see/hear gunfire, leave -- preferably through a fire door or store's service door. Try to hit a fire alarm on the way out. What other sort of "ready" did you have in mind?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 07:09 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 26, 2013 07:10 PM (aDwsi)
The 9mm CX-4 either uses the 92F or the later PX-4 9mm magazines. Older CX-4s in .45ACP used Cougar magazines. New build in .45ACP probably use the PX-4 in .45ACP.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 07:10 PM (QidfK)
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Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 07:13 PM (yh6zE)
the return is the smallest part of the issue,
Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at September 26, 2013 07:14 PM (Jsiw/)
Fun stuff -- they have one of those at the range I frequent and I've thinking about renting it. If you want some optics without breaking the bank, my girls got me a $30 Red Dot sight off of Amazon for father's day for my M&P 15-22. I'm sure it's crap but I love it.
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Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2013 07:14 PM (CMlD4)
October 2 marks the five-year anniversary of the likely murder of my father-in-law (the original Seamus Muldoon) at the hand of person or persons unknown.
So tonight I hoist a cup in loving memory of Jack G. May the scumbag who killed him someday meet with justice of a horrible and painful sort.
Skol Jack!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 07:14 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 26, 2013 07:15 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 07:15 PM (QidfK)
About the terrorist attack at the Kenyan mall by al Shabab, Attorney General Eric Holder said this:
"I'm not sure they have the capacity to do anything in the United States," Holder added. "It doesn't mean, however, we will not take the threat that they pose ... as a serious one."
Thanks Eric! We all feel so much safer now.
Posted by: ExSnipe at September 26, 2013 07:16 PM (57ubW)
Obviously, but there were a lot of people hiding under tables in that mall.
First option - GTFO. Last option - curl up and hide/wait. Somewhere in between - go down fighting and take as many of them with you as you can.
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 07:16 PM (N0Vub)
Anybody want me to upload a classic Genesis concert for them? I'll do it right now and post the link!
Hell, name the band you want a great show from, I'll do it. King Crimson? Pavement? R.E.M.? Velvet Underground? The Who? Springsteen? Can? Zappa/Mothers of Invention? The Fall? Joy Division? New Order? Pink Floyd '67-'71? Radiohead? Soft Machine? XTC? Yes?
Name it and I'll try and do it for you. The free goodies store is open! One rule: I won't upload commercially available material.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 07:16 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2013 07:16 PM (bufJH)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/selection-du-weekend-54-4.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 07:17 PM (QidfK)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2013 07:18 PM (hhzdL)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 07:18 PM (yh6zE)
Did you mean a concrete block? Because that is a whole different material. That would come under the "T" and "E" of STEM, other than which we do not study.
Seneca was a Spaniard who learned Greek Stoicism from an Egyptian. He was Nero's tutor, and got to kill himself exactly like the Mafia stooge in Godfather.
Yeah, real modern sensibilities, there. So, Xenophon and Thucydides, a fired admiral and a dis-elected general, are too unworldly? Try another translation.
Romans were statists, to a fault, even the republicans -- maybe even especially the republicans. It was all they knew and all they hoped for. You can learn by reading them, but don't fall for that Just Like Rome routine.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 26, 2013 07:18 PM (JNUY4)
http://tinyurl.com/motnwvn
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 26, 2013 07:18 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2013 07:19 PM (bufJH)
that, or they just don't like football very much. It's like they're not interested
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 26, 2013 07:19 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 26, 2013 07:19 PM (0axsw)
Seamus, would MRSA and Ebola work?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 11:15 PM (QidfK)
*****
Probably too humane for that sorry piece of dung. Missus M. and I have resigned ourselves to a justice not of this earth, since local law enforcement has no intent to apprehend the guy.
Don't mean to drag the thread down however. Just marking the anniversary. We do have a couple of cards up our sleeves and if something pans out I'll be sure to update y'all.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 07:19 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2013 07:20 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:20 PM (GEICT)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/selection-du-weekend-54-4.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 11:17 PM (QidfK)
They may be using a radioactivity source for doing some internal imaging of the distributor -- it would make sense that they might ship material from Oak Ridge to Detroit at the request of an automaker's QA team..
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 07:21 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 26, 2013 07:21 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 07:21 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2013 07:21 PM (bufJH)
130 Hey Seamus, I'm good. Start new full time position next month, keeping my two contract gigs as insurance. Tried to start a new hashtag on Twitter, #heterophobia without success. How are you?
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2013 11:18 PM (hhzdL)
***
Congrats on the new position. I expect your line of work will continue to be in high demand, what with lots of new "coverage" but not much availability of PCP's. Good luck.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 07:22 PM (mvenn)
That's standard doctrine for unarmed people in an untenable situation.
I think they missed: Have a snort of some good Scotch.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 07:22 PM (/kU/5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:23 PM (GEICT)
What other sort of "ready" did you have in mind?
Get a concealed carry permit. Carry it. Don't surrender.
Posted by: simplemind at September 26, 2013 07:23 PM (BmWNr)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 26, 2013 07:23 PM (vgd4f)
5. don't go to movie theaters?
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 11:21 PM (yh6zE)
Fuck that.
If it gets that bad the shit will have already hit the fan, and we will be sniping at the Arab neighborhoods from the freeway overpasses.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 07:24 PM (/kU/5)
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 26, 2013 07:24 PM (0axsw)
No
1. Run
2. Hide
3. Fight
2 and 3 are backwards. I will not be pulled out of some hiding place to be tortured/mutilated/killed at their leisure. If they kill me, they're gonna have to work for it.
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 07:24 PM (N0Vub)
141 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 11:19 PM (mvenn)
What did he prefer to drink?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 11:20 PM (/kU/5)
***
Heh- coffee in large quantities!
(I'm the lush in the family, so I'm toasting him with Crown Royal neat)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 07:24 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at September 26, 2013 07:24 PM (bCEmE)
1. Run
2. Hide
3. Fight
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 11:19 PM (/kU/5)
I was thinking more of "OODA -- and act in such a way that their need for additional personnel goes up exponentially." Going out a service entrance and hitting the fire alarm on your way out would do that, while minimizing your personal risk. If the terrorists thought that they could bottle up the three main entrances and use everyone in the mall as hostages, they get to have another think.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 07:25 PM (T1005)
here's one of the roads I like to ride on the motorcycle, flood damaged
this is going to Estes Park
pic.twitter.com/T8Rl6NPpPW
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 26, 2013 07:25 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: rickl at September 26, 2013 07:26 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 26, 2013 07:26 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 26, 2013 07:27 PM (0axsw)
Standard doctrine.
Running is obviously best if you are unarmed and untrained. Hiding is the next best thing, and fighting is the last resort, because they are armed and you aren't.
It's not ego or bravery or anything other than logic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 07:27 PM (/kU/5)
Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2013 07:27 PM (bufJH)
You have a four-wheel-drive motorcycle?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 07:28 PM (/kU/5)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 26, 2013 07:28 PM (lxc0s)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 07:28 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 26, 2013 07:28 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 11:24 PM (/kU/5)
Kinda what I was thinking. If it ever got to that point here where that shit was going on in malls here half the country would be out hunting with the purpose of genocide.
Posted by: Berserker at September 26, 2013 07:29 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:29 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: rickl at September 26, 2013 11:26 PM (sdi6R)
But 100% of the money went to the artists instead of 5%.
I love it!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 07:29 PM (/kU/5)
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 26, 2013 07:30 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 26, 2013 07:30 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2013 07:30 PM (UR1wn)
As horrible as it sounds....that might be the best thing for this country.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 07:30 PM (/kU/5)
Posted by: MTF at September 26, 2013 07:31 PM (C26bh)
---------------------
Actually, it is the points that are going to be tested. Normally, it requires a long test period to determine wear patterns and rates. Using radioactive parts, and then testing for the placement and quantity of transferred radioactive material, it is possible to more quickly determine what is going on, in a shorter time.
Next question?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 26, 2013 07:31 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: no good deed at September 26, 2013 07:31 PM (k55Fc)
The end scenario, 20 military people sitting in a classroom when 4 guys with guns burst in. They had taught us to put our heads down and do as we were told. One of the "game" rules was: you touch an instructor, even during roleplay, you will be removed from training and fail the course. Even with that limitation, it took them several minutes to get control. If, when they had first come in, 20 people jumped up and said, 'fuck no' ... we would have taken some casualties, but the bad guys would have taken 100%, and we would not have been hostages.
It's all about mindset. Somebody comes after me with a gun, especially somebody looking to pull off something like Westgate, I will fight until one of us is dead. If my family is involved, that goes double.
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 07:31 PM (N0Vub)
Brine it, then roast it or grill it.
Of course you could also buy bacon and wrap the tenderloin with bacon strips and then you could offend all of the vegans and Muslims on the Review.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 07:32 PM (/kU/5)
Posted by: rickl at September 26, 2013 07:32 PM (sdi6R)
Speaking of using X-rays
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ufunk-selection-du-weekend-33-29.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 07:32 PM (QidfK)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2013 07:32 PM (UR1wn)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 26, 2013 07:32 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:33 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 26, 2013 07:33 PM (0axsw)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ufunk-selection-du-weekend-33-27.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 07:34 PM (QidfK)
Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2013 11:27 PM (bufJH)
Hunter's latest book is 'The Third Bullet' about a second shooter of JFK. It's good and his scenario is plausible.
Posted by: ExSnipe at September 26, 2013 07:34 PM (57ubW)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:34 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: The Dude at September 26, 2013 07:35 PM (vJdyz)
175 Damn Seamus. To your uncle.
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2013 11:30 PM (UR1wn)
****
Thanks for that. I bored the ONT with the whole sordid story much of last year. He was really an interesting character. He actually had a pro football tryout back in the '50s and in the '60s as president of a development company came within an eyelash of building the (a) World Trade Center in downtown Cleveland.
At age 78 he disappeared from some land he owned in southern Colorado, literally without a trace. Presumed dead at the hands of a neighbor who skipped town the same day.
(father in law, not uncle)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 07:35 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Gingy at September 26, 2013 07:36 PM (jt8G9)
I thought they might have changed that scenario after 9/11. Was this one of the peace time scenarios?
Posted by: no good deed at September 26, 2013 07:36 PM (k55Fc)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:37 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2013 07:37 PM (bufJH)
(father in law, not uncle)
so kill that guy
easy peasy lemon squeezy
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 26, 2013 07:38 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 07:38 PM (yh6zE)
evening all. nice ont Maetenloch.
the Russians don't screw around. hope all those greenpeacers get all 15 in Siberia.
Posted by: rich@gmu at September 26, 2013 07:38 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 07:39 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: ExSnipe at September 26, 2013 11:34 PM (57ubW)
ExSnipe...you ignorant slut!
Nah, I thought it was lame. Bob was great, as always, but the premise was thin, and the main antagonist was a caricature.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 07:39 PM (/kU/5)
Taliban-type bad guys taking hostages. Total bullshit.
School was mostly designed for AF support types, but even those guys get issued two weapons to come over here. I'm still pissed that they wasted my time sending me there.
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 07:39 PM (N0Vub)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2013 07:39 PM (UR1wn)
Posted by: Gingy at September 26, 2013 07:39 PM (jt8G9)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 07:40 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 07:40 PM (QidfK)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2013 07:41 PM (UR1wn)
It's time America had a teachable moment on this ONE issue, but that doesn't mean conservatives are going to stop the war.
Posted by: Jeepers at September 26, 2013 07:41 PM (XDRsa)
197> Presumed dead at the hands of a neighbor who skipped town the same day.
(father in law, not uncle)
so kill that guy
easy peasy lemon squeezy
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 26, 2013 11:38 PM (8sCoq)
*****
He hides good. But like I said, we have some cards yet to play.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 07:41 PM (mvenn)
Yep. It's a shame we don't try to teach motivation anymore.
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 07:41 PM (N0Vub)
If you're looking for Greek understanding of human-nature, don't read Plato. Read Herodotus and the Gospel of Mark.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 26, 2013 07:42 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 07:42 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:43 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 07:44 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2013 07:44 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 07:45 PM (QidfK)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 26, 2013 07:45 PM (8sCoq)
The captured USMC guards ended the survailence by fapping like mad in the pissers and eventually the Iranians pulled the surveilance since none of them wanted to watch the fap-fest
*****
Don't jack off if your imam is watching!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 07:45 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2013 07:45 PM (doBIb)
But that's the Front Range for you. Ron Paul would absolutely win 40% of the popular vote in Boulder County. It's just that communists are 55% of the population.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 26, 2013 07:46 PM (d7tB2)
ExSnipe...you ignorant slut!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2013 11:39 PM (/kU/5)
Dang. Tough crowd tonight.
Posted by: ExSnipe at September 26, 2013 07:46 PM (57ubW)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2013 11:18 PM (hhzdL)
congrats on the new job.
Posted by: rich@gmu at September 26, 2013 07:46 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:47 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: simplemind at September 26, 2013 07:47 PM (BmWNr)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 07:47 PM (bufJH)
The Odyssey is more fun as a story, but the Iliad deals more with human foibles.
Oh, and it seems we've completely neglected Sophocles here. Don't do that. Srsly u guys
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 26, 2013 07:48 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Ghost of the Dice Man Past at September 26, 2013 07:49 PM (fOtoO)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 26, 2013 07:49 PM (lxc0s)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 07:49 PM (yh6zE)
Smaller families produce less crazy ass fighters. I had 4 older brothers and learned that only fighting back (even though you know you will lose) is the best strategy. Because you have to fight less if you always make the attacker pay something.
Posted by: The Hickster at September 26, 2013 07:50 PM (2E7td)
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2013 07:50 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 26, 2013 07:50 PM (0axsw)
Some people get it. Unfortunately, even in my line of work, a lot of people don't.
I've never shot a weapon at another person. Probably never will. But I'm pretty sure that if you wait until you're in that situation to figure out what you'll do, it's going to be too late.
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 07:50 PM (N0Vub)
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 11:31 PM (N0Vub)
Got an active shooter response training PDF at work today, and it was along the same lines. Run away, hide, fight as a last resort "with improvised weapons".
One suggestion was to lock yourself in an office, followed by a sentence to "avoid trapping yourself with no escape route".
As an individual strategy, the overall idea is sound, but I hate how it completely cedes control to the shooter. (who will have "free reign in the 15 minutes until police get there")
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 26, 2013 07:50 PM (0wHyk)
Oh, and it seems we've completely neglected Sophocles here.
*****
Would that be Phil Sophocle?
Of the Cleveland Sophocles?
My wife went to high school with him.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 07:51 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 07:51 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: rickl at September 26, 2013 07:51 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 26, 2013 07:52 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 07:52 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 07:52 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2013 07:53 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 26, 2013 07:53 PM (8sCoq)
maller families produce less crazy ass fighters. I had 4 older brothers and learned that only fighting back (even though you know you will lose) is the best strategy. Because you have to fight less if you always make the attacker pay something.
Omg that's hilarious. I was the youngest. Two older brothers who were much much bigger than I. I had no chance of winning. I never ever backd down or quit. I never got any bigger. After years of this, they would just run their mouths and walk away. I wasn't worth the hassle.
Posted by: simplemind at September 26, 2013 07:53 PM (BmWNr)
Posted by: adams stuff Seneca said porn at September 26, 2013 07:53 PM (gQKHE)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at September 26, 2013 07:54 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 26, 2013 07:54 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 26, 2013 07:55 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: simplemind at September 26, 2013 11:53 PM (BmWNr)
*****
I had six older brothers. I was too small to even register physically when they picked on me. I became very sneaky.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 07:55 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2013 07:56 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:56 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at September 26, 2013 07:56 PM (bCEmE)
Practice it in slow motion so that if you had to do it, it would be a habit.
Posted by: navybrat at September 26, 2013 07:56 PM (bzGal)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 07:57 PM (QidfK)
Read up on it online. It's not that big a deal if you're prepared. TSA, the airline you're flying on, lots of gun sites. Check for stupid laws at both ends of the flight. NYC is the worst example, but other localities can make things hard too.
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 07:57 PM (N0Vub)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013 07:57 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: bill-o at September 26, 2013 07:58 PM (REZnZ)
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2013 11:53 PM (doBIb)
If I'm trapped, I'm hoping to not just hide. How well does he know how to clear rooms and cut the pie? If he doesn't, he's getting something in the face.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 26, 2013 07:58 PM (0wHyk)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 07:59 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 26, 2013 08:00 PM (vgd4f)
any of you morons ever done that?
any suggestions?
I got a locked case that I'll lock to the siutcase and declare/go through TSA
I plan on unloading the mags but bring a box of factory ammo in it's origional packaging.
I have afew weeks
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 11:52 PM (yh6zE)
Start by scrutinizing your airlines' information for transporting firearms. American Airlines, for example is at http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInformation/baggage/firearms.jsp -- it is best to follow these scrupulously, as you're only going somewhere because you have a contract with the airline to take you there, and you can bet your ass that contract has an "out" if you fail to adhere to their posted policies.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 08:00 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Oedipus at September 26, 2013 08:00 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 08:01 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: mindful webworker - when I grow up I want to comment on the ONT at September 26, 2013 08:01 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Gingy at September 26, 2013 08:02 PM (jt8G9)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 08:02 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:02 PM (bufJH)
Probably too humane for that sorry piece of dung. Missus M. and I have resigned ourselves to a justice not of this earth, since local law enforcement has no intent to apprehend the guy.
Don't mean to drag the thread down however. Just marking the anniversary. We do have a couple of cards up our sleeves and if something pans out I'll be sure to update y'all. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
Seamus, there are prolly many here like me who have followed your saga and wish you and yours can find justice, but seldom say anything. But on this anniversary I wish you the best and will continue to pray for justice in your cause.
Keep on keeping on,
T
Posted by: The Farmer at September 26, 2013 08:03 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 08:03 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 27, 2013 12:00 AM (vgd4f)
*****
That's rough lou. Don't sell short the moral support value of a lasagne though. Actions sometimes mean more than words in a situation like that.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 08:03 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 26, 2013 08:03 PM (0axsw)
I have a 24 yr old daughter and hell yes it's not enough. But it is what you can do since nothing would be enough now. It does open that door for when he needs help from you later when he can take it.
Posted by: The Hickster at September 26, 2013 08:04 PM (2E7td)
Posted by: Kronos at September 26, 2013 08:05 PM (QAaGA)
Posted by: I love mrs mindful webworker at September 26, 2013 08:05 PM (U13jb)
Seamus, there are prolly many here like me who have followed your saga and wish you and yours can find justice, butseldom say anything. But on this anniversary I wish you the best and will continue to pray for justice in your cause.
Keep on keeping on,
T
Posted by: The Farmer at September 27, 2013 12:03 AM (eBupg)
*****
Thanks. My wife and I appreciate everyone's kind thoughts and words.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 08:05 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Eton Cox at September 26, 2013 08:05 PM (QCc6B)
Gonna make him a lasagna tommorow, but how fucking not enough is that. I can't even imagine the hell he's going through.
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 27, 2013 12:00 AM (vgd4f)
OMG, that's horrible. Is he married, does he have other kids?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 08:05 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 26, 2013 08:05 PM (aDwsi)
.... any suggestions?
Read up on it online...
You mean I shouldn't just walk right up to the TSA officer, whip it out, and say with a big smile on my face, "I have a gun!"?... ;-)
Posted by: Mr. Duh at September 26, 2013 08:05 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2013 08:05 PM (UR1wn)
Posted by: Mr. Duh at September 26, 2013 08:06 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 26, 2013 08:07 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 08:07 PM (QidfK)
Jeff B., what I said earlier as "Mr. Duh." (Don't want it to look like a joke.)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 08:08 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 08:08 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:08 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2013 08:09 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 08:09 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 26, 2013 08:09 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 26, 2013 08:10 PM (JMmQ9)
The idea is to get control of the gun, first and foremost.
I promise you that if I am the shooter and you kick me in the nuts, I can still shoot you, probably more than once, especially if I am wearing a cup.
So, save the nut kicking for after you have control of the gun. Just my $.02
Posted by: navybrat at September 26, 2013 08:11 PM (bzGal)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 26, 2013 08:11 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: beavis at September 26, 2013 08:11 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2013 08:11 PM (UR1wn)
Posted by: charles w at September 26, 2013 08:12 PM (V2F0w)
Obviously the person who would burst into your home/store/etc. with a gun and point it at you is somewhat dangerous to begin with, duh... but other than that, and being something of a poker player, would I be crazy to look for "tells" on the gun holder's confidence in his skill? If he seemed especially nervous and "distractable", for instance, I'd think your idea of getting the gun away would make a lot more sense than if you're dealing with someone who acts as if he shoots someone every day.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 08:12 PM (xY8+2)
You seen the Daily Mail article about what the soldiers found when they entered the mall in Kenya? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 26, 2013
Here's the link;
http://tinyurl.com/koa2let
Of course you won't read this story in the NY Times or any other of the elite "truth without fear nor favor" MSM
After all, stories of dead children are only reserved for Syria and wherever else TFG wants to help out his Muzzie Bro buddies
Posted by: kbdabear at September 26, 2013 08:13 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: mindful webworker - I've read about that guy at September 26, 2013 08:14 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 26, 2013 08:14 PM (vgd4f)
I was almost murdered by a guy who held up my store. He chased me, trying to shoot me in the head, but his gun jammed. I've never experienced such horror. Even though it traumatized me to the point of having PTSD, it also convinced me to buy a gun.
In 2011 two gypsy women did a home invasion on my octogenarian parents, who live next door to me. No violence; it was an "I'll distract, and you take the shit" thing. My brother--who lives next door to ME--realized what was happening and called me, telling me to get my gun.
I'd always wondered if I'd have the ability to use it. When I showed up, the gun was in my waistband, in my lower back. It's a Taurus .357 magnum loaded with hollow points. I walked into the yard as my brother was shooing these bitches out of the house. They were giving him a hard time, but when they saw me, they both went white and started begging me not to hurt them.
At my parents' insistence, we let them go. My brother told me later that he'd never seen an expression like mine. He said it scared the hell out him. When I asked him what my expression was like, he said, "Death."
I didn't know what I was going to do, but apparently my body and everybody else did. It's good to know that if I have to, I can kill people who deserve to die.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 26, 2013 08:14 PM (TJw7K)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:16 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2013 08:16 PM (LpbKr)
There was a video posted here a while back in which a robber pulled a gun on a cashier, who then pulled his own AFTER he deflected the gun of the robber. Same advice.
Frame of mind. Anyone who pulls a gun on the innocent is not in a good one.
Posted by: navybrat at September 26, 2013 08:16 PM (bzGal)
Of course OTOH, Nairobi was and is probably very much a "wet run" for Europe's future. Their next stop is most likely a mall in the U.K., in my estimation.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 08:17 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 26, 2013 08:18 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: rickl at September 26, 2013 08:19 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 08:19 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: The Dude at September 26, 2013 08:19 PM (vJdyz)
Or just wait to be shot, like the rest of the victims did.
Posted by: navybrat at September 26, 2013 08:19 PM (bzGal)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 26, 2013 08:19 PM (JMmQ9)
An actual THOUGHTFUL police officer? Now THERE's a miracle... ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 08:20 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 26, 2013 08:21 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 27, 2013 12:17 AM (xY8+2)
After reading comments from many europeans on other sites regarding our "uncivilized gun ownership" I wouldn't shed a fucking tear.
Posted by: Berserker at September 26, 2013 08:22 PM (FMbng)
Practice it in slow motion so that if you had to do it, it would be a habit.
Posted by: navybrat at September 26, 2013 11:56 PM
shorter answer: if you can get that close, kick him in the nuts, then stomp his head after he's down until he stops twitching...
other than that, navybrat has it exactly right...
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 27, 2013 12:07 AM (JMmQ9)
One other factoid -- if you ever have to fight someone who is armed when you are unarmed, then it is not a time for gestures, half-blows, slaps, or control holds. It is the time to shove a stapler into an eye socket, smash a trachea, or guillotine someone on a broken window. While it is certainly true that maintaining awareness of where the gun is pointing is important -- and keeping it from pointing at you especially so -- you shouldn't be attacking to disarm, you should be attacking to incapacitate/destroy. If you are fortunate enough to have the guy disarmed before he stops twitching, you can decide what half-measures to take at that time. It's not a barfight if he's armed and you're not.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 08:22 PM (T1005)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 08:23 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 26, 2013 08:23 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 08:23 PM (xY8+2)
Even most UK cops don't carry guns, so I've read/heard.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 08:25 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 27, 2013 12:21 AM (vgd4f)
you are a great neighbor to do something that kind.
Posted by: rich@gmu at September 26, 2013 08:25 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 08:26 PM (yh6zE)
It was absolutely the most idiotic thing I have seen since, oh, maybe the last time I turned on the news.
They had a guy posing as a shooter and another guy went to tackle him in a more or less rugby style waist tackle. The shooter still had complete control of his gun and could have just shot the tackler at any time. I laughed my ass off. No wonder people get killed like rabbits...
Posted by: navybrat at September 26, 2013 08:27 PM (bzGal)
Nope. Not in SoCal. I can be arrested and charged with a felony if I brandish a gun when someone is on my property. I know the law very, very well.
If the women were in the house when I came over, I could have the gun in my hand. But since they were outside in the yard, by law--in SoCal--I can't even be armed.
The deputies tell me that lawyers are lying in wait for people like me. So I was very careful to not appear armed.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 26, 2013 08:27 PM (TJw7K)
That was my original point. I won't make it easy for them.
Well, it's that time. Off to "work."
Posted by: Bomber at September 26, 2013 08:28 PM (N0Vub)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 27, 2013 12:23 AM (xY8+2)
not following? a party on the anniversary or a celebration before the fact?
Posted by: rich@gmu at September 26, 2013 08:29 PM (ga+7c)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 08:29 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 08:30 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 26, 2013 08:31 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2013 08:32 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: The Hickster at September 26, 2013 08:32 PM (2E7td)
If I go my whole life without ever seeing anything of Europe, it's fine with me. If I came into the money/won lotto/whatever, I like to think I'd go on a tour of national parks, especially those west of the Mississippi.
But Europe? I seriously wonder if I would go for free. MAYBE somewhere U.S.-historic and pro-American like Normandy, but outside that...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 08:32 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 08:33 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:33 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: rickl at September 26, 2013 08:34 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 27, 2013 12:14 AM (vgd4f)
I hope they are all holding very close now, because the 23-year-old was just snatched so very, very far away. Sadly, it's about all anyone has in the toolbox for such situations. You're being a very good neighbor with the lasagna....because "close" can sometimes also be next door.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 08:34 PM (T1005)
Hollowpoint, what Kahr do you have? Our local Kahr rep is teasing me with the PM45 for concealed carry.
Posted by: Steck at September 26, 2013 08:34 PM (RL7U1)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:34 PM (bufJH)
Yea, but you CAN do many many things to stack the deck in your favor. Improved situational awareness being the most important.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 26, 2013 08:35 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: RWC at September 27, 2013 12:32 AM (LpbKr)
it's a RecPlex here is their site http://recplexonline.com/
Posted by: The Dude at September 26, 2013 08:35 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 27, 2013 12:23 AM (xY8+2)
Thats because most are miserable little pissants. I was reading comments the other day on some site that had an article written by some cancerous pig testicle that basically was saying the world and the UN should intervene in our 2nd amendment. The comments were most enlightening. I don't care if the muzzies ass rape the whole EU. I'll sit back, watch it on the news, laugh my ass off, and flick beer caps at the TV.
Posted by: Berserker at September 26, 2013 08:35 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: qdp "chocolate nutcake" steve at September 26, 2013 08:36 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Steven Segal at September 26, 2013 08:37 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:37 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 26, 2013 08:38 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2013 08:38 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:39 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 27, 2013 12:14 AM (TJw7K)
my monday morning QB is with that scenerio, that gun should have been in your strong hand pointed even with your ankle and about 2feet to the outside.
Not in your waistband
glad you made it out ok though
Posted by: not Dave at September 27, 2013 12:19 AM (yh6zE)
In certain jurisdictions, is that not "brandishing"? (e.g. http://www.shouselaw.com/brandishing-weapon-pc417.html )
I think he did fine.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 08:39 PM (T1005)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:40 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 26, 2013 08:40 PM (l3vZN)
crap. figures. I was struck that Obama's mentor had that NYT profile with him standing on the flag published on 9/11. crazy world.
with you on the tour of the national parks. hoping to climb Rainier next year.
Posted by: rich@gmu at September 26, 2013 08:40 PM (ga+7c)
Indeed. Upward OR downward. Watch how fast this guy moves.
http://tinyurl.com/n3rcrn5
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 26, 2013 08:41 PM (TJw7K)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 08:42 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:42 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2013 08:43 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: lou's a girl at September 26, 2013 08:43 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 26, 2013 08:46 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 27, 2013 12:42 AM (X9Mnx)
Yep, I was just looking at the FlashBang site, no love for the Kahr. (But I did find an IWB for my 1911, so that's on order now.)
Posted by: Steck at September 26, 2013 08:46 PM (RL7U1)
And Your home is even less safe and a likelier target in your death statistically. Both of which are less dangerous than driving your car. Yes it is worthwhile (or really just natural for people like us) to think out worst case scenarios and how to deal with them. But limit your time since the likelihood is low.
Posted by: The Hickster at September 26, 2013 08:46 PM (2E7td)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2013 08:46 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 08:48 PM (X9Mnx)
And then there is the senseless murder of an SF State student as he left a Muni train. And the murder of the Orinda executive outside of his own house.
It is depressing.
Posted by: navybrat at September 26, 2013 08:48 PM (bzGal)
A woman came onto my property and stole a hugely expensive bicycle. She had a fanny pack, so instead of confronting her, I followed, hiding behind cars. She took the bike to her house, I noted the address, came back, and called the cops.
They retrieved the bike and told me to not press charges because they'd seen this scam before: The woman was Chinese, and she'd claim that she thought the bike was being thrown out, she didn't understand English, and then she'd sue me for false arrest. So I didn't press charges.
The cop spoke to me for half an hour and explained everything I was allowed to do and prohibited to do. Where I live in SoCal, I can only brandish a weapon if someone is inside my house or threatening my life.
Every other brandishing will get me arrested. I had to have the gun in my waistband when I went to my parents' house. If the gypsies had seen it and reported me, instant felony. Not only that, SWAT would have been sent to my house.
This is the Golden Era of Irrationality. We're incredibly lucky to experience it.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 26, 2013 08:49 PM (TJw7K)
Posted by: Steven Segal at September 26, 2013 08:49 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 26, 2013 08:51 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: navybrat at September 26, 2013 08:51 PM (bzGal)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:52 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 08:53 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 26, 2013 08:53 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 26, 2013 08:54 PM (l3vZN)
A woman came onto my property and stole a hugely expensive bicycle. She had a fanny pack, so instead of confronting her, I followed, hiding behind cars. She took the bike to her house, I noted the address, came back, and called the cops.
They retrieved the bike and told me to not press charges because they'd seen this scam before: The woman was Chinese, and she'd claim that she thought the bike was being thrown out, she didn't understand English, and then she'd sue me for false arrest. So I didn't press charges.
The cop spoke to me for half an hour and explained everything I was allowed to do and prohibited to do. Where I live in SoCal, I can only brandish a weapon if someone is inside my house or threatening my life.
Every other brandishing will get me arrested. I had to have the gun in my waistband when I went to my parents' house. If the gypsies had seen it and reported me, instant felony. Not only that, SWAT would have been sent to my house.
This is the Golden Era of Irrationality. We're incredibly lucky to experience it.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 27, 2013 12:49 AM (TJw7K)
I was born and raised in California, and intend to GTFO as soon as I can convince my BH to accompany me -- and that was exactly what I expected. I'm glad you're not getting blindsided by this crap, and know when to do the Kabuki.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 08:55 PM (T1005)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 08:55 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 26, 2013 08:57 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: RWC at September 27, 2013 12:43 AM (LpbKr)
per person, believe the family rate is at $325 right now ($275 if your a resident of the town). The town kinda killed everyone else (it's a $0 budget town municipality) due to what they offer and at the prices ($55 for the basic monthly dues)
Posted by: The Dude at September 26, 2013 08:57 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: navybrat at September 27, 2013 12:51 AM (bzGal)
You forgot "scramble armed teams to my place-of-work to disrupt activities and seize my stock-in trade [Gibson], raise my utility rates [anywhere using coal power], or conduct Gestapo-style SWAT raids against potheads [DEA]".
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 08:58 PM (T1005)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2013 08:59 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: not Dave at September 26, 2013 08:59 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 09:00 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2013 09:02 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 26, 2013 09:02 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 26, 2013 09:02 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 09:03 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 09:04 PM (bufJH)
FYI, Hollowpoint (and others), you can have a holster custom made. I know, duh, but just thought I'd mention it since I have done that once. (I don't carry, but like to use all my handguns at action pistol matches so I need holsters for all of 'em)
I wanted one for my rare Colt revolver, looked around on the web, and found Andrews Custom Leather in FL. He did a very nice job. Wasn't dirt-cheap, but for folks who carry, seems a quality holster that fits you and the gun would be well worth it - YMMV.
Posted by: non-purist at September 26, 2013 09:06 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Midnight Marvel Man at September 26, 2013 09:07 PM (MwpNJ)
I must be blind because I went through the entire thread and didn't see any requests.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 09:10 PM (n/+FT)
And Jeff B., thanks for the offer. Am debating what to request. Do you have any mid-1970s Eagles, maybe??
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 09:11 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 09:13 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 26, 2013 09:13 PM (Vk2pI)
where you wanna go?
AZ, FL, TX?
Posted by: not Dave at September 27, 2013 12:59 AM (yh6zE)
Most likely? TN, NC. Oddly enough, AZ, TX and (provisionally) FL also on short list. Remaining short list is GA and AR, though AR is probably not going to happen (AR and FL are very close to the edge of the "less likely to fall prey to a *natural* disaster than California" criterion).
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 09:13 PM (T1005)
Egads, no. I loathe the Eagles, sad to say. What I have to offer was listed in #127. If you want something from a band which has a lot of different eras (King Crimson, Genesis, Can, etc.) some greater specificity would be nice as well.
And I won't be around all night tonight!
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 09:17 PM (n/+FT)
I admit, northern Nevada looks good to me.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 27, 2013 01:17 AM (xY8+2)
Two words: "Harry." "Reid."
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 09:18 PM (T1005)
cthulhu: why not Nevada?
I admit, northern Nevada looks good to me.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 27, 2013 01:17 AM (xY8+2)
Two words: "Harry." "Reid."
Posted by: cthulhu at September 27, 2013 01:18 AM (T1005)
Plus, it's full of fucking Californians trying to pretend they shouldn't have to pay for the blue state bullshit they voted for time-and-time-again.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 09:21 PM (T1005)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2013 09:21 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: imp at September 26, 2013 09:25 PM (niFY8)
cthulhu: why not Nevada?
I admit, northern Nevada looks good to me.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 27, 2013 01:17 AM (xY8+2)
If northern Nevada appeals to you, slip over the border to Idaho and get the real deal. It sounds awesome if I weren't so averse to freezing my ass off.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 09:25 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Midnight Marvel Man at September 26, 2013 09:26 PM (crLRi)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 26, 2013 09:27 PM (ItfcE)
Hmmm... maybe not.
Posted by: The Barrel at September 26, 2013 09:28 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 09:28 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: imp at September 26, 2013 09:31 PM (niFY8)
And, not so much snow to worry about in the wintertime.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 09:31 PM (xY8+2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia,_Pennsylvania
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 09:33 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 26, 2013 09:35 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 09:40 PM (QidfK)
Silverstein, huh? I told that coworker that the Diceman is Jewish, and it was like I'd been the one to tell him there's no Santa Claus. Months later, he'd still occasionally scrunch up his face at me and whine, "It's not true. He's not a Jew." And I laughed every time.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 26, 2013 09:43 PM (LScnt)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 27, 2013 01:25 AM (T1005)
I sense a rant coming on....
I've lived through some of what passes for "forward thinking" in manufacturing -- processed based stuff like "ISO 9000" or "six sigma" or, [in the financial realm] "Sarbanes-Oxley", and one of the things that each grandiose, utopian scheme always insists on is that you demand it of your suppliers and offer it to your customers, because that, and that alone, will guarantee quality throughout the entire process.
And I shake my head and sigh, because when you trace back any string of value added processes, you inevitably end up with some poor schmuck with a shovel -- and whatever process guarantees he gives you are going to be worthless. In SarbOx, someone has to read the indecipherable signature on the check and say, "it's good!" In farming, it's "well, this looks like a good place for peaches." In semiconductor manufacturing, which is one of the most tightly-controlled and chemically-pure environments imaginable, it's mechanical stutter with the tools or outright software failures.
And this rests on a fundamental truism -- whatever model builders think they can run with their models, they have to deal with reality.....and the more they put off dealing with it, the worse it's gonna bite when they do.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 09:44 PM (T1005)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 09:45 PM (bufJH)
Arizona, bake your ass off and spend $200-500 a month on air conditioning.
Arizona, scorpions that like to sleep in your shoes.
Florida, sinkholes that eat you up while you sleep.
Florida, alligators that eat your pets.
I am going to stay right here and become an illegal alien.
Posted by: navybrat at September 26, 2013 09:46 PM (bzGal)
Hmmm... maybe not.
Posted by: The Barrel at September 27, 2013 01:28 AM (JawqV)
There are actually sections that do not experience the extreme heat and are very pretty. They're also quite far from major hospitals, entertainment venues, stores, services, and the like.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 09:49 PM (T1005)
>>>What eras do you have for Genesis?
I can literally give you an incredible-sounding (near-professional quality) soundboard for every single tour of Genesis's career from 1972-1992. Gabriel era, Collins era, Hackett stuff. I got like five different SBD shows from the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway tour alone. Great, great stuff from the Trick Of The Tail and Wind And Wuthering tours. One of consensus all-time classic Genesis shows from the Duke era. You name, I got it. Only exceptions is the Foxtrot era -- I have a bunch of AUD recordings but the definitive SBD from that period was and remains the Genesis Live album.
Name what you want and I'll upload it for you.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 09:49 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 26, 2013 09:53 PM (QidfK)
Don't worry about it tonight. I'll name what I want at tomorrow night's ONT.
Thanks.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 09:54 PM (xY8+2)
Also note that Genesis were a remarkably good live band well into the latter half of their career. Some of their best shows come from 1981, 1982, 1983, and even 1986. The 1982 tour (the Three Sides Live tour, done in the wake of that live album's release) in particular is hugely underrated -- it's the last time they ever performed "Supper's Ready," and there are a bunch of other great rare songs, particularly a great medley of "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" with "Watcher Of The Skies." There is a well-remastered partial SBD (the second half of the show, basically) out there, but this tour interestingly enough features what may be the one of the greatest audience tape I've ever heard in my life, a suprise show in the legendary Marquee Club in London, a shoebox-sized venue where Genesis got their start playing back in 1970. It's ridiculously exciting because not only is the band loud and clear, you can hear the audience as well.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 09:58 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: The Dude at September 26, 2013 09:58 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 09:59 PM (X9Mnx)
Hollowpoint, check out my #127 and make a request for anything that suits your fancy. Not kidding! I'll have it up and ready for you to download within five minutes or so.
One night only!
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 10:00 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 10:00 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 27, 2013 01:18 AM (T1005)
He'll be out on his ass in '16. No way he beats Sandoval.
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 27, 2013 01:35 AM (Vk2pI)
I'm going to express this to you gently and kindly, because I have a great deal of respect for you as an individual, blogger, and moron.
What the fucking fuck was that batshit retarded state doing (and, pointedly, NOT thinking) when they rubberstamped the Searchlight Strangler back into the Senate against a wave election in 2010? I don't care if his opponent was a witch, a Russia-gazing retard, a deviant, at war with women, a womb-blocking religious zealot -- or a congenitally-deformed puppy with terminal mange....Nevadans voted for a pederast undertaker. I'd rather have voted for a half-rotten corpse possessed and animated by Asmodeus, myself -- and I find it very telling that Nevadans didn't.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 10:00 PM (T1005)
On that note, I have a theory about the Biblical Genesis. I think Adam and Eve are an allegory for the first hunter-gatherer tribes. The knowledge they got from eating the forbidden fruit was the knowledge of agriculture.
Their sons Cain and Abel represent the civilizational split that occurred when agriculture became a thing. Abel represents the tribes that settled and farmed and got together to form cities. Cain represents the tribes that became looters and pillagers and marauders.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 26, 2013 10:01 PM (LScnt)
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 27, 2013 02:00 AM (n/+FT)
fine, give me a good concert from Tuomi (the female singer and not the funk band)
Posted by: The Dude at September 26, 2013 10:01 PM (vJdyz)
Arizona, bake your ass off and spend $200-500 a month on air conditioning.
Arizona, scorpions that like to sleep in your shoes.
Florida, sinkholes that eat you up while you sleep.
Florida, alligators that eat your pets.
I am going to stay right here and become an illegal alien.
Posted by: navybrat at September 27, 2013 01:46 AM (bzGal)
Yeah, that chaps me some. This'd be a great state to live in if I weren't born here....and gave a shit about the rule of law.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 10:03 PM (T1005)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 10:03 PM (bufJH)
Nevadans may have loathed Reid, but how quickly you forget: Sharron Angle was nutty. Moreover, Reid may have been disliked, but there was no question but that he brought home the bacon and the influence for a state that needed it -- in particular Reid was a guarantee that the Yucca Mountain nuclear storage facility will never happen. So given that, and given his solid ground game, it didn't surprise me at all that NV voters decided not to cashier him for a woman who came across as being really quite bonkers.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 10:04 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: The Dude at September 26, 2013 10:04 PM (vJdyz)
I always get into trouble when I try to tell people that the Noah's Ark parable sounds to me a tiny bit something like... oh, I don't know... a super-simplified version of evolution theory??
That is to say, some species weathered "the storm" of time, others didn't.
And then I also think that Revelation (which Jeff B.: I happen to know Revelation was Genesis' the band's original name) is actually an allegory for individual death, not the universe's death. I know I know, I'm a heretic heathen. I'll go back to whipping myself in the corner...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:05 PM (xY8+2)
Desafortunadamente, you are limited to the bands I mentioned in #127.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 10:05 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:05 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 26, 2013 10:05 PM (ItfcE)
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 27, 2013 02:05 AM (n/+FT)
but you said
"Hell, name the band you want a great show from, I'll do it"
Posted by: The Dude at September 26, 2013 10:06 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 10:07 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 26, 2013 10:07 PM (Vk2pI)
Genesis' first album (done while they were still schoolboys, which is the only excuse) is actually a thoroughly silly and embarrassing attempt to summarize the entire fucking Bible. It's called From Genesis To Revelation and there's a reason you've never heard of it.
(Truth be told some of the songs on it are quite lovely little bits of pop, but lord is it terribly produced and they can barely play their instruments at that point.)
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 10:07 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 26, 2013 10:07 PM (LScnt)
And Jeff B.: wasn't Genesis' first album produced by Jonathan King of "Everyone's Gone to the Moon" fame?
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:09 PM (xY8+2)
I have their complete discography, of course (Countdown To Ecstasy, Katy Lied and Aja for the win), but nothing live. They weren't a very good live band during their original run anyway -- too hard to recreate those asshole-tight arrangements onstage the way they needed to be heard. The Dan are one of the great studio groups of the '70s, but I don't really rate them as a live act at all.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 10:10 PM (n/+FT)
pointedly, NOT thinking) when they rubberstamped the Searchlight
Strangler back into the Senate against a wave election in 2010?
Nevadans may have loathed Reid, but how quickly you forget: Sharron Angle was nutty. Moreover, Reid may have been disliked, but there was no question but that he brought home the bacon and the influence for a state that needed it -- in particular Reid was a guarantee that the Yucca Mountain nuclear storage facility will never happen. So given that, and given his solid ground game, it didn't surprise me at all that NV voters decided not to cashier him for a woman who came across as being really quite bonkers.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 27, 2013 02:04 AM (n/+FT)
I don't care if Angle was in a coma or re-living http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjrBjdb2T8 -- Harry. Fucking. Reid.
I'd prefer to live somewhere else.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 10:10 PM (T1005)
Yes. Also of "unfortunate child molestation conviction" fame, as well.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 10:11 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:11 PM (xY8+2)
Yeesh...
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 27, 2013 02:05 AM (ItfcE)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 10:11 PM (T1005)
Also, given your views on Eagles, I shudder to think what you think of Billy Joel. :-) (Or if you have any of his stuff.)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:13 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Andy at September 26, 2013 10:13 PM (0ZQCB)
When are you guys gonna let me guest, huh Andy?
(Answer: when you really want to tank the brand equity of the blog completely.)
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 10:16 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Old Dog at September 26, 2013 10:17 PM (tQYJH)
Same Gun Laws and smarter Cops!
Posted by: Old Dog at September 27, 2013 02:17 AM (tQYJH)
I'm an accountant, so I built a spreadsheet. One of the factors was metropolitan areas of a certain size, 'cause the BH expressed a concern with being too far out.....and a couple of others were distance to an IKEA, Trader Joe's, or Harbor Freight. That resolves Tennessee, for instance, to suburbs of Memphis, Nashville, Chattanooga, or Knoxville -- god forbid you'd be in the central city.
A lot of the nicer areas of AZ are just too remote. They're nice enough -- but for youngsters who can drive a bunch.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 10:23 PM (T1005)
A great setlist, a great performance, an all-time classic.
Setlist: Dance On A Volcano/Behind The Lines/Follow You Follow Me/Dodo-Lurker/Abacab/Supper's Ready/Man On The Corner/Misunderstanding/In The Cage/Cinema Show/Afterglow/Turn It On Again/Drum Duet/Los Endos/The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway/Watcher Of The Skies/I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)
Link: http://tinyurl.com/mswk6tf
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 10:24 PM (n/+FT)
They contacted the singer-songwriter who'd created the song, and he told them he wanted $100k for the rights to it.
They decided to invite him to a private screening of the film, figuring that maybe if he saw the movie he'd settle for less; it was a good movie, after all, and being associated with it might make up for some of that money they weren't so eager to dish out for one song.
About twenty minutes into the film, Jeff Bridges's character hears an Eagles song playing and bellows, "I hate the fuckin' Eagles, man!" At this point, the singer stood up and walked over to the Coen Brothers and said, "I've seen enough. You can use my song for free." Turns out he, too, hated the fuckin' Eagles. Man.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 26, 2013 10:25 PM (LScnt)
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 26, 2013 10:26 PM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Old Dog at September 26, 2013 10:27 PM (tQYJH)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:28 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:29 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Deety at September 26, 2013 10:30 PM (JOXw+)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 10:30 PM (bufJH)
But Glenn Frey actually did a song in the 1980s called "Better in the U.S.A." on his "The Allnighter" album. Eagles *did* do "Get Over It," which I've seen people here praise. And Joe Walsh is so fried from pot (and God knows what else) that it's hard to take anything he has to say seriously, re politics or any other subject. His music is just fun, and that's about it.
So I admit it: I don't *get* the hate for the Eagles. Dislike? Sure. Slick, overproduced, overpaid. I get that. But IMHO they got their most pretentious period-- the "Hollywood Cowboy" schtick that Bon Jovi is still coasting off of-- out of the way right away with "Desperado," which is by far my least favorite Eagles song. Even *I* have my limits with the Eagles.
But I don't get the hate. A lot of their stuff IMHO was just plain tuneful and fun as well as hyper-polished and Billboard-chart ready. Maybe because something of theirs get played on modern-day AOR radio an average of about once every 3.2 seconds? Hmmm.
No, I don't *love* the Eagles, but I don't get the hate either.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:35 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 26, 2013 10:41 PM (LScnt)
Posted by: Old Dog at September 27, 2013 02:27 AM (tQYJH)
One of the things I was looking to screen on was "affordability v. access".
In the west, you have larger states based on huge land grants that were broken down with large input from political processes. Everywhere else, you have properties whose provenance may predate the revolution....and the industrial revolution as well.
So there are huge and amazing parks in theWest, and I've heard grousing about the lack of parks in the East in both NC and TN. In CA, there are enormous profits made when someone who had a strategic holding sells out to developers.....in the east, they just go around.
There are a ton of subtle differences between the west and east -- my favorite was when I noted that non-irrigated lawns here die.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 10:41 PM (T1005)
- Henley's anti-Reagan period (which last I checked is still going strong, unfortunately) in the 1980s
- "Desperado" (most pretentious Hollywood Rocker Cowboy song ever, along with Bon Jovi's "Wanted Dead or Alive")
- "The Last Resort", an anti-suburb screed that almost (but not quite IMHO) ruins the "Hotel California" album
Best reasons to like Eagles, if not love:
- Some stuff they did to redeem themselves slightly. "Better in the U.S.A." by Glenn Frey, "Get Over It," and even "In the Garden of Allah" by Don Henley (believe it or not, it's a good song about moral confusion).
- Their Christmas song, "Please Come Home For Christmas." Tuneful, pro-family, their only song to mention anything even slightly religious ("Silent Night") without a sneer.
- The fact that they at least inspired "Don Henley Must Die" by Mojo Nixon.
:-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:41 PM (xY8+2)
If you can figure out the words, "Life In The Fast Lane" is a surprisingly funny take-down of LA hipster drug culture.
"Call the doctor, I think I'm gonna crash!!"
"The doctor say he's coming, but you gotta pay in cash"
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:44 PM (xY8+2)
I actually like the Eagles. They captured the Zeitgeist masterfully.
Now, ask me how much I like the Zeitgeist....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 10:45 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 26, 2013 10:46 PM (Vk2pI)
And like I said, they *did* have something of a sense of humor, some of the time.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:46 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: whatmeworry? at September 26, 2013 10:48 PM (Q3WfW)
*****
Better in the U.S.A.
written: G. Frey and J. Tempchin
piano and electric guitar: G. Frey
Well, they look to the east
They look to the west
The Third World wonders
Which way's the best
We got freedom, we got soul
We got blue jeans and rock'nÂ’roll
Man, there ain't no choice
It's better in the U.S.A.
(It's better in the U.S.A.)
You can be what you want
Say what you wanna say
(It's better in the U.S.A.)
Why can't I make you understand?
It's better in the U.S.A.
(It's better in the U.S.A.)
I hear the same propaganda day after day
It's gettin' so hip to knock the U.S.A.
If we're so awful and we're so bad
You oughta check the night life in Leningrad
Man, it ain't even close
It's better in the U.S.A.
(It's better in the U.S.A.)
If you could see behind the curtain
Life is cold and grey
(It's better in the U.S.A.)
How can I make you understand?
It's better in the U.S.A.
(It's better, it's better)
I think I'll play
Woah!
Nobody's perfect and change comes slow
It's really up to you which way you wanna go
You can move to the left
Or move to the right
You can stand in the dark
You can stand in the light
Drivin' on the beach
On a night in June
Me and my baby
In the lover's moon
They're playin' sweet soul music
Got it turned up loud
Make me feel so good
Make me feel so proud
Man, there ain't no choice
It's better in the U.S.A.
(It's better in the U.S.A.)
Well, they'd be movin' here from Moscow
If they could only find a way
(It's better in the U.S.A.)
How can I make you understand?
It's better in the U.S.A., baby, baby
(It's better)
We got the burgers and fries
(In the U.S.A.)
We got the friendly skies
(In the U.S.A.)
We got the beautiful girls
(In the U.S.A.)
Got the beautiful curls
(In the U.S.A.)
We're drivin' beautiful cars
(In the U.S.A.)
We're diggin' movie stars
(In the U.S.A.)
We get to make romance
(In the U.S.A.)
Let the little girl dance
(In the U.S.A.)
It's better, baby
Nice sweater, baby
What do you say you and me go for a little drive?
Come on
It's better, itÂ’s better, it's better...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:51 PM (xY8+2)
If it helps, I'm a Christian and find Ace of Spades to be pretty faith-friendly overall.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:53 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 10:54 PM (X9Mnx)
Although as I recall, "Dark Side of the Moon" was the big-time required CD.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:55 PM (xY8+2)
My first full-length CD was (I'm so sorry guys) Tracy Chapman's debut album. "Fast Car" anyone?? (This was 1988.)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 26, 2013 10:57 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 10:59 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2013 11:01 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 26, 2013 11:03 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 26, 2013 11:08 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: Seran King at September 26, 2013 11:19 PM (HR1uY)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 26, 2013 11:21 PM (LScnt)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 26, 2013 11:25 PM (T1005)
I told her, "No, it's Valli."
She said, "What?"
I said, "Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons."
She wouldn't speak to me for the rest of the day.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 26, 2013 11:29 PM (LScnt)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 26, 2013 11:37 PM (LScnt)
Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2013 11:38 PM (bufJH)
Posted by: logprof, member of the Wiserhood at September 27, 2013 03:08 AM
Ah, The Church. Yeah hup...
Posted by: otho at September 26, 2013 11:43 PM (9gNQd)
He's probably only doing so to get in good with Ace though, who is an Heathen wot has been proved never to have even attended a Christian Wedding Ceremony and is bent on polluting all of our souls with Nummy, childish fun so as to promulgate his version of Godless revolutionary sydicalism.
Or perhaps, Ace and Maet are the types of souls who read about and like to think about a whole range of ideas and are serving a like-minded audience.
Which do you think more likely?
If you must have your own particular world-view or faith constantly affirmed or stroked on the internet, in every particular, on every forum, at every hour, I very sincerely suggest that you step away from the computer for your own well being.
Or...You could organize a boycott!!
Posted by: Deety at September 26, 2013 11:52 PM (JOXw+)
Posted by: Deety at September 27, 2013 12:58 AM (JOXw+)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 27, 2013 01:00 AM (T1005)
Posted by: D'Angelo Barksdale at September 27, 2013 01:10 AM (bufJH)
Posted by: logprof at September 27, 2013 01:12 AM (bufJH)
Posted by: Chicagorefugee at September 27, 2013 01:21 AM (jevZa)
Posted by: Deety at September 27, 2013 01:24 AM (JOXw+)
Posted by: logprof at September 27, 2013 01:33 AM (bufJH)
Posted by: Deety at September 27, 2013 01:57 AM (JOXw+)
Posted by: Deety at September 27, 2013 01:59 AM (JOXw+)
so someone at Politico reads the Horde
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nvrw6o9
Posted by: Danniel Muhammad Onyejekwe-Møller at September 27, 2013 02:07 AM (8GBEN)
Posted by: logprof at September 27, 2013 02:18 AM (bufJH)
Space.com : http://preview.tinyurl.com/oq3ju3f
Where perchlorate is mentioned, so a backgrounder on the subject :
http://preview.tinyurl.com/mdd3bus from nih.gov.
The environment on Mars is more hazardous, more complex than you might think.
Posted by: Danniel Muhammad Onyejekwe-Møller at September 27, 2013 02:35 AM (8GBEN)
What in fact is a "True" Troll?
I'll just stop here and wait for knowledge.
I have a bottle of wine to kill so....have at it all you closet savant's
Or I could just wait for sunrise and Jerry Springer to fill in the blanks.
Posted by: Richard at September 27, 2013 02:36 AM (m12E4)
Posted by: Deety at September 27, 2013 02:36 AM (JOXw+)
Posted by: Deety at September 27, 2013 02:40 AM (JOXw+)
Posted by: Richard at September 27, 2013 02:43 AM (m12E4)
Posted by: delayna at September 27, 2013 02:44 AM (KnC4k)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/k7u55ba
points out that marine creatures are sensitive to the lunar cycles (daily, monthly, and seasonally) leading one to suspect that the full moon really does make (some) people crazy.
Posted by: Danniel Muhammad Onyejekwe-Møller at September 27, 2013 02:47 AM (8GBEN)
Posted by: nx at September 27, 2013 02:56 AM (ZzUyd)
Meanwhile.....(mean)
True Christians get slaughtered in the middle yeast...(fluffing up large)
and liberals focus on being pussy/hobo....."Republicans ARE RAPING OBAMACARE!!!!!
REPUBLICANS ARE KILLING BABY SEALS!!!!
REPUBLICANS WILL SELL YOUR CHILDREN'S SOULS TO BUY BULLETS TO KILL POLAR BEARS AND FLAME THE OIL FIELDS TO MELT ALL THE ICE............EVERYWHERE!!!!!!
IF YOU DO NOT AGREE......YOU ARE A DE-FACTO RACIST and you should pay Al Sharpton's child support til you die.....
Posted by: Richard at September 27, 2013 02:58 AM (m12E4)
Science World Report
http://preview.tinyurl.com/n88zuzf
Just killin' time here, waiting for leadership.
Posted by: Danniel Muhammad Onyejekwe-Møller at September 27, 2013 03:03 AM (8GBEN)
Pee-Wee Herman,
was on a comeback......til....
a PERV mayor in Alabama.....named Pee-Wee got caught...being a PERV.
Sorry Paul,
Last thing you expected......I'm sure....
(Don't call me....)
Posted by: Richard at September 27, 2013 03:08 AM (m12E4)
Bout time for the morning shit or something......
not that I fuckin care for that bright n shiny crew....
they all be so into their boffo intellect and "Look at my golden cock an all!!"
My BVD's need washing after a hard 12 in the E.R...
so lick em clean. I need em fresh by 1800 for my next shift...
Thank You.......
Posted by: Richard at September 27, 2013 03:21 AM (m12E4)
Reading the Harris excerpt, I must admit I bristled at the word 'myth' regarding the return of Christ, one of the central tenets of my faith, and must note that Harris' point regarding the striking, point-by-point similarities between Marxism (in all its variants) to relgious dogma and its socialist/communist true believers to religious fanatics has been pointed out innumerable times since, well, there has been Marxism. No new news there.
Christ comes when He comes. As I understand it, I should strive to live my life as if today is the Day it happens.
Posted by: troyriser at September 27, 2013 06:19 AM (gNlvW)
"A longish article by Ed Driscoll. I'll just bait you with this quote by Lee Harris on why socialism will never die."
I expect better stuff from Ed. This all very lightweight. Comparing one branch of philosphy with another branch of philsosphy is easy - especially when one treats them like apples and oranges.
Posted by: Wendy at September 27, 2013 06:23 AM (4uSYN)
Posted by: Mistress Overdone at September 27, 2013 07:28 PM (2/oBD)
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