September 29, 2013
— Maetenloch
New York City: Going Back to the Bad Old Days
Well they're on their way to electing the city's first Sandinista mayor, Bill de Blasio.
Earlier Tuesday, de Blasio defended his support of the Nicaraguan Sandinistas by comparing himself to FDR.
"I'm a progressive and I'm a Democrat and I'm very much in the tradition of Franklin Roosevelt," de Blasio said on WPIX TV, explaining why he traveled to Nicaragua more than two decades ago to support a government the U.S. was trying to topple.
And this was no youthful infatuation - he really really supported the Sandinistas:
He helped raise funds for the Sandinistas in New York and subscribed to the party's newspaper, Barricada, or Barricade. When he was asked at a meeting in 1990 about his goals for society, he said he was an advocate of "democratic socialism.".
...Mr. de Blasio remained supportive of the Sandinistas, often referred to by their acronym, F.S.L.N., even after they lost power. "People who had shallow party sympathies with the F.S.L.N. pretty much dropped everything when they lost," said Jane Guskin, a fellow activist in the solidarity group. "Bill wasn't like that.
And Ed Driscoll points out that NYC may see the return of 'no radio' and 'no cash' signs along with the reasons for them:
And everything Giuliani and Bloomberg have done is reversible. None of their gains is permanent. The barbarians are always at the gate. They are never vanquished, permanently. They may be kept at bay for a while - but they wait to be allowed back in....There was once a common sign in New York. People put it in their cars, when they left them on the street: "No Radio." It was a sign of helplessness and hopelessness. As Commissioner Kelly remarked, it said, Don't break into my car. The one behind me, maybe, or the one in front of me. But not mine, pretty please.
How pathetic. And how utterly accepted it was. I have never seen, personally, a "No Radio" sign. Ever. I moved here in 1998, remember - well into the Giuliani renaissance. Will that sign come back? (I don't know if cars have radios anymore - as they did pre-Giuliani. But they must have something.)
"SHUTDOWN THE GOVERNMENT?! BUT HOW WOULD WE EAT OR BREATHE?! This is a warning to Ted Cruz and all his ilk: If the government stops operating for even one day - chaos and cannibalism will reign in the streets. Mark my words. Yeah, a government shutdown would only impact "non-essential" federal government functions. And, yeah, some might even argue that the government should only be doing the essential things in the first place. But that will be of little solace when you're bleeding on the ground, being eaten alive by the starving masses. I can scarcely imagine the horror. If non-essential government agencies and departments are forced to close for a short period of time, that means we'll have to find a way to go without the Administration on Aging, and the Japan-United States Friendship Commission, and the Indian Arts and Crafts Board, and the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. WHERE WILL I GET MY TRANSPORTATION STATISTICS?! You're playing with fire, conservatives. Civilization is bound together by the strong, steady hand of bureaucracy. If you loosen its grasp, you risk plunging us all into a dark, perilous land of individual responsibility and liberty. Our Founders fought and died to rescue us from such a fate, and I'll be damned if I sit here and let you undo their efforts."
Flashbang, Speedbump, and Modern Welfare
One of the revelations that came out after the Boston Marathon bombers were caught is that the entire Tsarnaev clan were living off welfare.
It was widely reported back in April that Flashbang, Speedbump, their parents Anzor and Zubeidat, and various other relatives had all been living entirely on welfare. Their cars came from the state. Their college tuition, room and board, and fees: all free. The press reported that they'd received over $100k in cash benefits alone.
Those stories petered out after Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, who consistently defends even welfare fraud as legitimate "redistribution", insisted that the Tsarnayev's life on the arm was off limits See, they might be criminal monsters who would kill an eight-year-old (as F&S did) and express glee over it (as Zubeidat has). But they have privacy interests, and their privacy interests trump all.
Well guess what - you're still paying for their welfare. So they can hate you.
The welfare payments didn't stop. They didn't stop for Speedbump when the cops shot him and his brother administered an inadvertent coup de grâce with an SUV. His EBT card was still being filled months later - for his wife and children, no doubt. And they didn't stop for Anzor and Zubeidat when they moved back to Russian Central Asia. They simply gave an out-of-state cousin's address, and Massachusetts keeps loading their EBT cards.
On Heckling, Society, and Manliness
The short version:
While attending the "DC's Funniest Celebrity" competition at the DC Improv, journo Josh Rogin was punched two or three times by Dan Nainan, a stand up comedian who had been hired to provide some actual comedy at the event, after Rogin tweeted about how terrible his jokes were. Rogin then tweeted about getting punched in the face and calling the cops. Nainan was arrested.
Jonathon Last comes down on Nainan's side:
On the one hand, if you sit around insulting a guy standing 30 or so feet from you, do you not expect a reaction? Rogin's taunts probably don't rise to"fighting words" but it says something really weird when people are so wedded to virtual space and divorced from meat space that they think spouting off insults about people near them is polite, acceptable behavior that will be universally accepted with bon homie. .Rogin, did not retaliate, but immediately tweeted about the incident. He then pressed charges when the po-po arrived. The next morning, Rogin told the Washington Post, "My face hurts."
Really? This is how men conduct themselves in 21st century America?
But Sonny Bunch disagrees:
I half-agree, half-disagree with JVL. The half-agree first: Yes, American masculinity is in a woeful place when one feels compelled not to respond to aggression with aggression in kind. I'm going to go ahead and blame society here. If Rogin had thrown down he would've opened himself up to lawsuits and, in all likelihood, action by the police. He probably would've been arrested along with Nainan. He also would've been treated with scorn by his colleagues in attendance, most of whom would rather get punched in the face than throw one of their own. I can't say I blame Rogin for bemusedly tweeting about the incident rather than putting his fist through Nainan's face, no matter how much Nainan deserved it.
...There are different rules for meatspace and cyberspace. Different norms govern both. It's okay to (verbally**) destroy a heckler from the stage. And it would be okay to (electronically) destroy a heckler on Twitter. But violence is an inappropriate response to someone who's making fun of you on social media. If you can't handle the horde poking fun at you, don't open a Twitter account.
Me - I much prefer a world where physical violence is rare. Which means you better be able to brutalize a critical asshole verbally and on social media when you need to.
How to Make an Easy $200,000 Off the Upcoming Postal Increase
Well first you gotta buy $4.6 million dollars of Forever stamps before the price increase.
Our plan is to buy 10 million stamps at $0.46 each and sell them at $0.48. The margins, of course, are small. If we buy 10 million stamps, spending $4.6 million, we'll earn $200,000-a 4.3% profit.
The good news is that you can buy up to 1 million stamps in a single order from the USPS, and pay a mere $1.75 in shipping (shipping is their business, after all).
They then run the numbers on the nitty gritty details and it still looks like pretty good investment.
At least here we aren't being forced to finance ABC, NBC, and CBS via a TV fee:
Ten per cent of English court cases now involve the prosecution of citizens who decline to pay for the BBC. That's some 700 cases per day. We'd probably see a similar number in Australia if funding for our state broadcaster wasn't drawn directly and immorally from our taxes.
Also: Too Dangerous for the Library
Recreating the Hemingway Burger
Fingers deep, I kneaded. Fighting the urge to be careless and quick, I kept the pace rhythmic, slow. Each squeeze, I hoped, would gently ease the flavors-knobby bits of garlic, finely chopped capers, smatterings of dry spices-into the marbled mound before me.I had made burgers before, countless times on countless evenings. This one was different; I wasn't making just any burger-I was attempting to recreate Hemingway's hamburger. And it had to be just right.
...It started off simply enough: ground beef, India relish, capers, and green onions, mixed with various spices, egg, and wine. (The recipe is very specific about the brand of spices; Spice Islands appeared to be the Hemingway spice brand of choice.)
Mei Yen powder, however, tripped me up. Perhaps it was a popular spice in the 1950s but in 2013, it was nowhere to be found; it turns out it was discontinued three years ago. But after some conferring with the good people at Spice Islands, I had a recipe for recreating that.
And so I began. First, I broke up the meat, scattering the garlic, onion and dry seasonings over it. After letting that rest for a smidgen, I added the relish, capers, wine, and all else and let that "sit, quietly marinating." The smell of spices, garlic, capers, meat, and wine slowly perfumed the air of my tiny kitchen.
Hemingway liked his burgers pan-fried, not grilled. So, out came the pan. The heady scent of charred beef tinged with sage, garlic, and celery seed rapidly became unbearable. I could not wait to eat. By the time the burger was "crispy brown and the middle pink and juicy" my pangs were palpable.
Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings
Top 10 commenters:
1 [691 comments] 'Niedermeyer's Dead Horse' [97.01 posts/day]
2 [630 comments] 'willow'
3 [359 comments] 'Mike Hammer'
4 [350 comments] 'thunderb'
5 [346 comments] ' Beagle'
6 [318 comments] 'AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est'
7 [308 comments] 'Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review'
8 [304 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)'
9 [292 comments] 'EC'
10 [286 comments] 'Jones in CO'
Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [59 names] 'The Political Hat' [8.28 unique names/day]
2 [54 names] 'phreshone'
3 [45 names] ' Beagle'
4 [44 names] 'kbdabear'
5 [44 names] 'adams have you seen Mel Brooks' wife porn'
6 [33 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
7 [30 names] 'logprof'
8 [28 names] 'Low Information Voter'
9 [28 names] 'Doctor Fish'
10 [27 names] 'Schr?dinger's cat </i>'
The group. Yeah.
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Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 06:01 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 06:02 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 29, 2013 06:02 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 06:04 PM (/B37E)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 29, 2013 06:04 PM (8sCoq)
Why does my computer keep asking me to download a program from a.sitemeter.com every time I refresh the screen?
Posted by: Bill R. at September 29, 2013 06:04 PM (QnRSM)
http://youtu.be/-Qu8RPvhP-U
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 29, 2013 06:04 PM (MnSla)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:05 PM (sQ0LB)
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Why does my computer keep asking me to download a program from a.sitemeter.com every time I refresh the screen?
Yeah, what's up with that?
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 29, 2013 06:06 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:06 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 29, 2013 06:06 PM (caPl0)
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 29, 2013 06:06 PM (RLdcX)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 29, 2013 06:06 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 29, 2013 06:06 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Beto at September 29, 2013 06:07 PM (MhA4j)
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Posted by: Camel on Wednesday at September 29, 2013 06:07 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at September 29, 2013 06:07 PM (MnSla)
Needless to say, he's a Communist.
But nevertheless, it's true that he is "very much in the tradition of Franklin Roosevelt". Given the absolutely extraordinary number of high level FDR aides who were revealed after the end of the Cold War to have been covert Soviet agents of influence.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 06:08 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:08 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 29, 2013 06:09 PM (8sCoq)
Yeah, what's up with that?
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 29, 2013 10:06 PM (DHQv9)
Apparently it's something screwed up with sitemeter that's affecting a lot of sites. You can just ignore it.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 06:09 PM (XkotV)
Why does my computer keep asking me to download a program from a.sitemeter.com every time I refresh the screen?
Posted by: Bill R. at September 29, 2013 10:04 PM (QnRSM)
I've been having the same issue all weekend, along with some other morons. The theory I heard is that it's a buggy line of code in the sitemeter app on the site.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:10 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 06:10 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 29, 2013 06:12 PM (hO8IJ)
Yup, the Iggles are in trouble. I propose sacrificing Vick to the dog gods as appeasment, followed by a cranio-rectal disinversion procedure on the defense.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:12 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Czar Peter at September 29, 2013 06:12 PM (hMQKI)
Those hipsters in Brooklyn had better read up on "Crown Heights Riots" and "Yankel Rosenbaum"
Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 06:13 PM (aTXUx)
Yeah, where is navycopjoe????
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:08 PM (GEICT)
Maybe God decided today was the day to unleash the full punishment for his hubris. The Bears lose, while T announced that she's pregnant and his daughter came home and said, "I met this nice boy today..."
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 06:13 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Beto at September 29, 2013 06:13 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 06:14 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (GEICT)
Anybody, c'mon, who lost!
The Reds, swept by the Pirates (who included an inside-the-park homer for good measure).
Posted by: Basement Cat at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (eawoP)
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (a7NX9)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (b7yum)
What world is that?
Certainly not the one we live in.
And if you talk shit, you better be prepared and able to back it up.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:06 PM (GEICT)
Well actually it's the world *I* live in. I haven't been in a fight since middle school and haven't even seen a real life scuffle in a few years. For the most part I never have to think about hitting someone else or getting hit in my daily life. And I like it that way.
If violence is regular part of your life, you might want to re-think some of your life choices.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: Beto at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (MhA4j)
In massively liberal San Francisco today, if you leave ANYTHING visible inside your car, it is likely to be gone when you come back. The locals will break windows using spark plugs on strings, slice convertible tops with knives, rip out door handles with pry bars. They're fast. I've seen cases of break-ins under two minutes after the car is parked and left.
It doesn't have to be high-dollar lure merchandise like laptops or phones or jewelry. Stupid shit like gloves and scarves are entirely sufficient. But even lesser stuff is a risk.
A friend of mine left a half-eaten burger on the passenger seat while he dashed in to get his dry cleaning. Someone popped the side window. For a half-eaten burger.
(By the way, my fingers slipped and I originally composed that sentence as "a half-eaten bugger", which has to be one of the most awesome inadvertent typos in history, especially in a San Francisco context.)
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 06:16 PM (gqT4g)
Blimps flying Yankee Stadium during the '77 World Series showed fires lighting up the night skies over the Bronx each and every night
Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 06:16 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 06:16 PM (fOFYL)
In addition to really disliking Vick, I'm sick to death of them humping CHIP KELLY!'s leg. The man hasn't done jack in the NFL but the announcers act like he's Zombie Vince Lombardi.
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 10:14 PM (5H6zj)
Meanwhile, Andy Reid got run out of town on a rail and the Chiefs look pretty good under him. If I were him, I'd probably buy up billboards all over town asking, "How's my ass taste?"
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:16 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 29, 2013 06:16 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 06:18 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 06:18 PM (z4WKX)
(By the way, my fingers slipped and I originally composed that sentence as "a half-eaten bugger", which has to be one of the most awesome inadvertent typos in history, especially in a San Francisco context.)
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 10:16 PM (gqT4g)
A Mr. Hannibal called to ask, "what typo?"
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:18 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 29, 2013 06:18 PM (2up3Q)
Don't get they get a retroactive paycheck when the money starts flowing again?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 29, 2013 06:19 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:19 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 06:19 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 29, 2013 06:19 PM (2up3Q)
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 06:19 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: Beto at September 29, 2013 06:19 PM (MhA4j)
New York City: Going Back to the Bad Old Days
Aww - now I'm to be up all night worrying about New Yorkers being inconvenienced because of their political choices.
I better take an Advil PM tonight.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 06:20 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 06:20 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 29, 2013 06:20 PM (BLAfs)
Posted by: madtechie at September 29, 2013 06:20 PM (Sp5D+)
Posted by: CMU VET at September 29, 2013 06:20 PM (ejB0r)
Posted by: big al at September 29, 2013 06:21 PM (3MNCs)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 29, 2013 06:21 PM (JMmQ9)
Proper example of an anticlimax: For God, for Country, and for Yale.
As for the zzzzzz, you ain't been in the Burgh when the longest losing streak in all major league sports finally comes to an end.
Posted by: Basement Cat at September 29, 2013 06:21 PM (eawoP)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:21 PM (GEICT)
Who cares. Let the liberal dumbasses live with the consequences of their liberal votes.
After they're knocked over their heads for their wallets and jewelry they can pat themselves on the back for being humanitarians.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 10:04 PM (/B37E)
AD: The problem is those liberals will move to where you live and continue to vote in the same way that screwed up their home in the first place--and I say that as someone who's lived in New York for years.
AD: Listen, and understand. The NY liberals are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you have a guy like de Blasio as your mayor.
Nerdygirl: Uh-huh. Well, let's go back to what I was...
AD: Look! You have heard enough! I have answered your questions! Now, I have to see Sarah Connor!
Nerdygirl: I'm afraid that's not up to me.
AD: Then why am I talking to you? Who is in authority here?
Nerdygirl : Please, I...
AD: Shut up!
[looks into the camera]
AD: You still don't get it, do you? They'll move to your hometown. They'll find you! That's what they do! That's ALL they do! You can't stop them! They'll wade through you just like they did in Colorado and New Hampshire, reach down her throat and elect every leftwinger in sight!
Posted by: AD at September 29, 2013 06:21 PM (NmpZu)
This is really neat. Tiny baby dragons you can hold in your hand.
I want about a dozen. Keep two, and release the rest to go after D.C., the FSA and LIV's.
Posted by: ExSnipe at September 29, 2013 06:22 PM (57ubW)
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 10:19 PM (5H6zj)
I beg to differ. I like ribs, but come on!
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:22 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 29, 2013 06:22 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 10:15 PM
It ain't MY violence that's a problem, ya stutterin' prick!
Posted by: Tommy DeVito at September 29, 2013 06:23 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 06:24 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 06:24 PM (/B37E)
Posted by: madtechie at September 29, 2013 06:24 PM (Sp5D+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:24 PM (GEICT)
From: 19 Here is the "News of the Week" http://tinyurl.com/k2lctqa
Yay! We win!!! 81% Top THAT Bitchez!!
I think life is officially going to start the suck
Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 06:25 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 06:25 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 29, 2013 06:26 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:26 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Dude with a mohawk from Road Warrior at September 29, 2013 06:26 PM (2jQGY)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:27 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 06:27 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2013 06:28 PM (ligos)
Note that one or both of the catastrophic and lethal Shuttle losses would have been averted if the original flyback booster idea had been used.
Challenger? Solid rocket booster joint burnthrough. No SRBs in the original.
Columbia? Damage to Orbiter from external tank insulation breaking off. Some versions of the original design sensibly put the Orbiter above the flyback booster, which would have done away with that risk as well.
I spent a couple of decades cursing the failure of NASA to go with the flyback design, but I ultimately and reluctantly conceded that no matter what, the Shuttle was going to have been a giant turkey, an enormously expensive technological dead end.
As Jim Baen once said, "The space program reminds me of a government agency."
The lesson of Shuttle is: when attempting something that's never been done before, don't commit the whole program to it right out of the gate. Build one-off operating prototypes and spend a couple of years flying them at a low rate. Learn what the unknown unknowns are. Then maybe build an advanced version.
Meanwhile, the nation careens down the same stupid path with the F-35 fighter as it did with Shuttle. Early, massive, and total commitment to an extremely expensive program, without operational prototypes, that does not do what it says on the tin. Total genius.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 06:28 PM (gqT4g)
No shit. Apparently being a cop or a paramedic is the result of poor life choices.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:26 PM (GEICT)
If you're facing violence daily as a paremedic, unless you do primarily psych transports, you ARE doing it wrong. That's what the cops are for.
--EMT since 2001
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:28 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 06:28 PM (5H6zj)
The House should pass Continuing Resolutions to fund individual items from Article I, section 8 of the Constitution -- e.g. "We explicitly fund the Department of the Mint and NIST" [from the fifth clause enumerating powers]. Then, make it clear that once the enumerated powers are funded, that's the last of the CRs. No emanations or penumbras allowed. Department of Labor, Department of Education, Department of Energy, EPA, Obamacare, TPAB -- all that can get funded when Hell freezes over.
Then triple-dog-dare the Senate to muck with any of 'em.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 06:29 PM (T1005)
Look for the union label.
Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 06:29 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:29 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 06:29 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 29, 2013 06:30 PM (jSmN1)
Posted by: thunderb at September 29, 2013 06:31 PM (zOTsN)
No one steels car radios anymore
Posted by: big al
Out West, they're stealing car mirrors, which are apparently cake to take off and a $1000 part on some models.
And then there's still the old favorites of swiping catalytic converters and siphoning gas.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 06:31 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:31 PM (GEICT)
I didn't mean facing it directly. I meant seeing the results of it, being involved in the aftermath.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:30 PM (GEICT)
Well that's a hell of a distinction. Might have been better to make that clear up front, especially since Maet's point was primarily about direct violence.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:31 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 06:33 PM (JaA49)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:33 PM (GEICT)
I think most New Yorkers miss the Giuliani days, when it was safe, but we weren't told what to do, and the city had character.
Now it feels like Disneyland with the SS doing security.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 29, 2013 06:33 PM (/kU/5)
The threat of physical force is what is used to keep law and order. It is civilization. If you take that threat away, then the really bad people WILL commit much worse violence.
If you can't recognize that, perhaps you should rethink your life choices.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:21 PM (GEICT)
I think you missed the point of the article and my comment - I'm not talking about police and implied government-sanctioned violence here. I talking about getting punched by Joe Blow in line with you at Target or a 7-11 parking lot. Or some guy taking offense to one of your tweets and cold-cocking you.
I never see this kind of stuff. Primarily due to life choices I've made (along with a little luck and some non-victim body language).
Guys regularly throwing down over minor insults is not civilization - it's what a lot of civilization's infrastructure is designed to prevent.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 06:33 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 06:35 PM (aDwsi)
This is where a close study of Islamic law might come in handy. Need a hand?
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:35 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 06:35 PM (9JWX9)
Posted by: thunderb at September 29, 2013 06:36 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 29, 2013 06:37 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:37 PM (GEICT)
I have a few books of the original Forever stamps from 2007 (41 cents apiece; suck it, Post Office). I rarely mail stuff from home. I'm saving them for when mailing a letter costs $12.
It shouldn't be long, now.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 29, 2013 06:37 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2013 06:37 PM (hmUex)
===
curious nic. care to share any back story?
Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 06:38 PM (PlzOe)
I think most New Yorkers miss the Giuliani days
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Really? Because my guess would be with NY being a big immigrant and -- um -- relocate-igrant city, a significant portion of the current residents weren't there in the pre-Rudy and Rudy days.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 06:38 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Ricardi Kill at September 29, 2013 06:38 PM (Mn3mu)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:38 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 06:38 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:26 PM (GEICT)
Sigh. Another completely missed point.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 06:39 PM (XkotV)
Just don't do anything really horrific, like disseminating anti-Democrat propaganda where it might be read.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:39 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:39 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: madtechie at September 29, 2013 06:40 PM (Sp5D+)
. . . I expected that "Breaking Bad" might be "Ending Bad"
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:41 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: puddleglum at September 29, 2013 06:41 PM (zznfJ)
Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 06:41 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 06:41 PM (/B37E)
I never see this kind of stuff.
You must have gone to a better high school than I did.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 29, 2013 06:42 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 06:42 PM (9JWX9)
Wonder what the victims of knockout or polar bear would contribute to the discussion of violence in everyday life?
Posted by: irongrampa at September 29, 2013 06:43 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 06:43 PM (GEICT)
All out of napalm.
But it definitely smells like something here.
Posted by: Bomber at September 29, 2013 06:43 PM (JzQ+Q)
Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 06:44 PM (yh6zE)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:44 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 10:33 PM (JaA49)
Good lord! What kind of a job is it where you can put "Wanna be a Street Pulse hottie? Send your best pictures and contact information to hottie@honolulustreetpulse.com. Applicants must be at least 18 years of age." on the web and be deluged with photos and contact info? Editor of that section must be one of the most sought-after positions in the organization.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 06:44 PM (T1005)
At least your brother had a rep for not having a blistering case of genital warts. So he's got that going for him
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:44 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:44 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 29, 2013 06:45 PM (jSmN1)
The second was Fleet Week / International Naval Review 2000. It wasn't the same city. You could walk the streets of lower Manhattan without fear, and go to the Bronx for a game and not think too much about it. No car carcasses on 95. That was how much of a difference Guliani and his crew made.
It's like they expect this to go on forever and their policies are only going to make things even better. Or more "fair".
Why do they want to go back to 1990? I thought that was only for the Enviroweenies.
Posted by: Spelling Nerd at September 29, 2013 06:45 PM (ylG8S)
Posted by: Adm Ackbar at September 29, 2013 06:46 PM (Dsds2)
Heya, CC--knee is pretty good, exercised it more than I should have, got a bit of soreness after today.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 29, 2013 06:47 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:47 PM (ZPrif)
We were there twice. The first time we went, there was a musician strike and we never actually put on a show.
The other light dude and I did the Circle Line Tour, the Hayden Planetarium and got a tattoo.
Good times.
Posted by: Retired Geezer at September 29, 2013 06:47 PM (7xShT)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:47 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 06:48 PM (9JWX9)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 06:49 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 06:49 PM (aDwsi)
Quoting Goodfellas, I think. Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 10:28 PM
Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner!
Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 06:49 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 29, 2013 06:49 PM (caPl0)
Capable of fighting back != violence. Being prepared to defend yourself != violence. I'm talking about actual physical altercations here - not something implied.
That threat of getting punched in the face is what keeps a helluva lot of people from telling Joe Blow to fuck off when they bump into each other or have a minor altercation.
The threat of violence prevents greater violence and contributes to general social order. It's a violent world, always has been, always will be.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:37 PM (GEICT)
Again the conditional threat of getting punched != violence. Here I'm referring to actual instantiated violent acts - not threats, menace, or implied physical harm.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 06:49 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 06:49 PM (vJdyz)
@bcochran,
I'd note that entertainers sort of open themselves to criticism of such a sort. Am I no longer allowed to say "Ryan Reynolds is a sucky actor" unless I'm willing to take a punch for it?
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at September 29, 2013 06:50 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2013 06:50 PM (BmWNr)
The romance of urban decay, set to music.
The title sequence from the 1982 movie Vice Squad featuring the song "Neon Slime". Starring -- and sung by -- the great Wings Hauser.
http://youtu.be/Vk9Ap_Zfrl8
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 06:50 PM (kdS6q)
Yup the GOP is the problem.
Not the media, and not the Donkey Party.
Actually there's some truth to that though, only the GOP could be so feckless not to make gains on such things.
Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 06:51 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: trump at September 29, 2013 06:51 PM (FbbJc)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 06:52 PM (/B37E)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 06:52 PM (9JWX9)
Posted by: Leon Trotsky at September 29, 2013 06:52 PM (aTXUx)
Which means it's Huma's fault, and then Hillary's fault.
The long hand of the progressive destruction machine.
Posted by: PJ at September 29, 2013 06:53 PM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2013 06:53 PM (hmUex)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:53 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at September 29, 2013 06:54 PM (a5ljo)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:55 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 29, 2013 06:55 PM (caPl0)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 06:56 PM (Dsds2)
Forgive me, I crossed the meme streams. Twitter has #ShutdownTheGOP, and Jackhole MS is sort of a Metaphor for America these days. Main difference I see is a closet, and a watch.
Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 06:57 PM (9jfyN)
tsrblke: Am I no longer allowed to say "RyanReynolds is a sucky actor" unless I'm willing to take a punch for it? - well, no, you're not; not if you're hanging around the Ryan Reynolds Fan Club HQ. If for some reason you do find yourself with a burning need to insult their idol to their face - I assume you'll have a good reason for it - you'll need to prepare yourself for the repercussions.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:57 PM (d7tB2)
Giuliani was elected for a reason. Even liberal ass clowns don't like to be mugged. Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2013 10:53 PM
NYers who elected Rudy knew the horrors of the leftist policies and politicians
NYers who elected DeBlasio never knew that, think that a socialist government can keep what they have and throw in unicorns and skittles for free
Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 06:57 PM (aTXUx)
If it slides it will only slide for a very short time.
Posted by: Kreplach
About that...
Posted by: Detroit
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 06:58 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 06:59 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2013 06:59 PM (BmWNr)
Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 07:00 PM (8V7ZZ)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet) at September 29, 2013 07:00 PM (jSmN1)
Grats on sneaking back on the top 10 list, delivering your goods to Morons worldwide.
How goes the second Amazon project? Submitted and waiting for your $10k check?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 07:00 PM (0wHyk)
Posted by: CAC at September 29, 2013 07:00 PM (nas+Y)
In other words, free vacations for nearly everyone!
Does anyone really think it will be different this time, in these oh so liberal days?
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 29, 2013 07:00 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 29, 2013 07:00 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: A completely non-violent icepick… at September 29, 2013 07:01 PM (Vk2pI)
don't forget us, Atlanta, Columbia, Jacksonville, DC, N'walins....
Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 07:01 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Kreplach
There were still the blue collar Reagan Democrat types in outer boroughs back in 93
Quite a few of them have moved away now.
Los Angeles once had a Republican mayor as recently as the 90s
You'll never see that again
Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 07:01 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2013 07:02 PM (hmUex)
We are seeing some of the shit that infests NYC crawl upstate into my North Country, in the form of drugs.
Not yet a large problem, but it's growing. The highway system facilitates this enormously.
In my county, the police are hardnosed about it big time. No mercy at all.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 29, 2013 07:02 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 07:03 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 29, 2013 07:04 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Kalneva at September 29, 2013 07:04 PM (XyrkB)
Now we know where Navy Cop Joe is.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 07:04 PM (qnPg9)
The 36 is already Hobo Highway.
My guess? Boulder will do okay. The thugs will drop off the bus at L'ville and B'field.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:05 PM (d7tB2)
I liked it, tied up all the loose ends.
Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 11:00 PM (8V7ZZ)
Stevia is just the product, not a company. It's just a generic name ( I grow some in my herb garden)
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 11:03 PM (vJdyz)
It's a plant!
Posted by: Admiral Plantbar at September 29, 2013 07:05 PM (T1005)
Well then without knowing more context I would say that Heinlein is wrong. Or twisting the meaning of 'violence' far beyond its standard usage.
If walking around while carrying a concealed weapon or merely knowing karate is 'violence', then the term has little meaning. Knowing judo or getting mugged and beaten are both the same: violence.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 07:05 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 07:05 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 07:06 PM (ZPrif)
Now we know where Navy Cop Joe is.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 29, 2013 11:04 PM (qnPg9)
Or, if he isn't, where he should be.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 07:06 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 07:06 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2013 07:07 PM (hmUex)
The rest of us should be ready to help!
Democrats constantly excoriate the GOP for "blocking needed revenue". Where "revenue", of course, means "taxes".
The House GOP needs to, as part of debt ceiling negotiations, be ready to answer that criticism. By putting on the table a fat package of tax hikes. Very regrettably and sorrowfully agreed to tax hikes, you understand. Only at the insistence of the Democrats on new "revenue" were these measures put forth.
Tax hikes to include reaming the fuck out of Google and Facebook over their tens of billions in overseas tax-sheltered revenue. Tax hikes to include tearing Hollyweird's spine out of its body with a fat new excise tax on entertainment. Tax hikes to include taking away the home mortgage interest tax deduction, which overwhelmingly benefits two states, New York and California.
And, tax hikes to include repealing the grossly unfair way in which zillionaire hedge fund managers in New York get to treat all of their income as "capital gains" for federal income tax purposes.
Expect the entire New York congressional delegation to shit themselves in abject fear over that last part. Upchuck Schumer hardest hit.
Seriously, the House GOP needs to send this sort of stuff over and dare the Democrats to veto or otherwise reject it. And if the Democrats do reject it, which they will, that's just fodder for the next cycle's campaign ads.
"They want new taxes. They just don't want to pay those new taxes themselves."
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 07:07 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 29, 2013 07:08 PM (/IXKu)
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 07:08 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: El Sombrero Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula at September 29, 2013 07:08 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 07:09 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 07:09 PM (8V7ZZ)
Posted by: Fritz at September 29, 2013 07:09 PM (x2W/k)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 29, 2013 07:09 PM (/IXKu)
Which means it's Huma's fault, and then Hillary's fault.
The long hand of the progressive destruction machine.
It's dick degrees of separation.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 07:10 PM (qnPg9)
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 07:10 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 07:10 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 29, 2013 07:11 PM (caPl0)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 07:11 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 29, 2013 07:12 PM (CeNUw)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 07:13 PM (ZPrif)
I'm curious as to what the level of dark sky is where I live. On most nights, if I turn off the outside floods and the moon is not up, I can just make out the Milky Way, less than 20 miles from downtown Columbus, OH.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 07:13 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Beagle at September 29, 2013 07:14 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at September 29, 2013 07:14 PM (Vk2pI)
Yep. That is why I moved to Boulder instead of, say, Leadville. Employers like you to be at the office.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:15 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 07:15 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: madtechie at September 29, 2013 07:16 PM (Sp5D+)
Posted by: thunderb at September 29, 2013 07:16 PM (zOTsN)
Internal passports, FTW! Papers, please.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:16 PM (d7tB2)
Payday loan, pawn, strip joints... sky's the limit
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:17 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Matter Replicator [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2013 07:17 PM (ligos)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 29, 2013 07:17 PM (T0Pku)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 07:17 PM (aDwsi)
Too many bad memories as a little kid visiting relatives there in the Bronx.
Only been there once in like the past 20 years to give a deposition in a Microsoft lawsuit.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 07:17 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: thunderb at September 29, 2013 07:17 PM (zOTsN)
Well, lemme just say, you're gonna love when Walt throws Todd into the volcano.
Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 07:18 PM (H0a0l)
Posted by: madtechie at September 29, 2013 07:18 PM (Sp5D+)
Posted by: CAC at September 29, 2013 07:18 PM (nas+Y)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 07:19 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 07:20 PM (/B37E)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 07:20 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: An Astronaut at September 29, 2013 07:21 PM (FMNSK)
Drive-by comment, have to go back to work now, but I'd just like to say...
DA BEARS! 3 and O-shit...eaten by the Lions...
Catch you on the lunch break roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2013 07:21 PM (xa1/W)
239 What types of businesses will cluster in Jackson, MS?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot
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Gov't cheese distribution center
Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 07:22 PM (KDUNf)
Great war pr0n at Jawa Report:
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/216974.php
Two down with one shot. The first guy just had to get a better look. Cost him a chunk of his head.
Posted by: Ed Anger at September 29, 2013 07:22 PM (tOkJB)
Hank runs into a friendly fella with a crossbow while roaming around a prison somewhere in Georgia.
Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 07:23 PM (H0a0l)
No, we'll put up virtual walls. Those are even better! And we could use virtual Secret Service protection for Obama too, I'm certain there would be no problems with that. *headdesk*
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 07:23 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 07:23 PM (z4WKX)
Sufficient here to overhaul copyright law. Which was already draughted up by some Republicans!
http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/11/18/ republicans-take-down-anti-corporate-copyright-law- paper-within-24-hours-of-publication/
[remove spaces; sorry, I don't like tinyurl, and I don't want people thinking I'm linking gay porn in here. #twoweeks]
The bad news is, the actual Republican Party we got isn't really interested in doing the right thing, improving the economy or, er, winning elections.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:23 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 07:24 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: sinalco at September 29, 2013 07:24 PM (7580N)
Walt has been dead the entire time and he's really in his own personal Hell.
Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 11:19 PM (Dsds2)
Breaking Bad spoiler -- Walt is actually John McCain's wish-fulfillment avatar in an extended hallucination when, during his presidential campaign, he realized that Sarah Palin was more popular than he was.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 07:24 PM (T1005)
JAYNE: Oh, hell. I've been to the edge. Just looked like more space.
Posted by: Captain Malcolm 'Mal' Reynolds at September 29, 2013 07:24 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 07:25 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 07:26 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 07:27 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 11:10 PM (v6hyJ)
Will they go to Hooterville?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 29, 2013 07:27 PM (Rla3K)
Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 07:27 PM (yh6zE)
But he gets out after eating onion rings as Communion wafers.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 07:28 PM (qnPg9)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 07:28 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at September 29, 2013 07:28 PM (Jsiw/)
The legislators are at serious risk of Alinsky tactics, or actual Maet-defined literal violence if they convene in a place under the control of this mayor.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:29 PM (d7tB2)
Yep. That's the same basic argument behind why the Sears Corporation (at the time America's largest retailer) built their eponymous tower in Shitcargo, Illinois. Because it was the place to be if you were somebody, and Sears was certainly the somebody of somebodies.
Meanwhile, some pathetic nobodies that no one who mattered had ever heard of, who thought they might one day be big in retail (hah!) were setting up shop in The Skinny Ass End Of Nowheresville, a.k.a. Bentonville, Arkansas.
Those folks at Sears certainly showed the unknown upstarts who was boss.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 07:31 PM (gqT4g)
I liked the idea of space driving some men mad. It fit with the notion that this was not a safe, sanitized universe. The problem was that the Reavers never really worked. A hyperviolent group of savages that also manages to operate starships always struck me as silly.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 07:31 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 07:31 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 07:32 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 07:32 PM (/B37E)
Walt is actually Jesse's alter ego. Jesse finally beats Walt by pointing a gun to his head and shooting the part Walt inhabits. He also gets Helena Bonham Carter, who is a knockout at the time and a freak in bed.
Posted by: AD at September 29, 2013 07:32 PM (NmpZu)
Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 07:33 PM (8V7ZZ)
Posted by: Gidget at September 29, 2013 07:34 PM (tfg7i)
Same with Klingons, how did they get more technically advanced then us or even the Vulcans?
Posted by: lowandslow at September 29, 2013 07:34 PM (APJIX)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 07:34 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 07:34 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
I was in Connecticut a few years ago, and driving by a big complex that was built by Bear Stearns ( in ~ 2006) that was going to be their "state of the art" bond trading house. Of course, it's just empty and idle now.
I think a lot of the big traders and their paychecks will initially go somewhere close, like Connecticut, but sooner or later they will cluster in another big city with favorable tax rates.
Hi there!
Posted by: Houston at September 29, 2013 07:35 PM (NmpZu)
Posted by: CAC at September 29, 2013 07:35 PM (nas+Y)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 07:36 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 07:37 PM (8V7ZZ)
I assume there's a caste system. An elite of depraved but effective psychopaths; but we only get to meet the drones.
A similar dynamic in another SF universe illustrates why James Cameron > Ridley Scott.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:37 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 07:37 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at September 29, 2013 07:38 PM (pcdyA)
Walt Jr walks out of the DEA building after being questioned and heads towards a Jaguar parked in the street. As he's walking he drops his crutches, his legs straighten out, he reaches into a pocket and pulls out a cigarette, then gets into the car. Saul is behind the wheel, and they drive away as the screen goes black.
Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 07:38 PM (H0a0l)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 11:34 PM (b7yum)
No, Walt wanders around the beach of the desert Island until he finally discovers the Statue of Liberty and realizes he's been in New York the entire time.
And De Blasio's still mayor...
Posted by: AD at September 29, 2013 07:38 PM (NmpZu)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 07:38 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 07:39 PM (Dsds2)
Funny you should ask. Where all your women at?
Posted by: Temujin at September 29, 2013 07:39 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: CAC at September 29, 2013 07:40 PM (nas+Y)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 07:40 PM (ZPrif)
Same with Klingons, how did they get more technically advanced then us or even the Vulcans?
Posted by: lowandslow at September 29, 2013 11:34 PM (APJIX
I believe they've made some insinuations that the Klingons technology might have been acquired through an invasion, and them eventually driving off their enemies but having the technology. If you notice their technology doesn't really seem to advance very much through the Trek series with possibly the exception of acquiring cloaking technology through their alliance with the Romulans. The Sword of Khaless being in the Gamma Quadrant lends to the invasion speculation.
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 07:40 PM (LI48c)
Well, the Klingons in TOS didn't seem hyperviolent. Aggressive, certainly, but not the space barbarians that they tried to make later. I like to think that Worf's comment on the differences in that time travel episode of DS9 indicate that the Klingons suffered some catastrophe that transformed their species.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 07:41 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 07:41 PM (Dsds2)
297 We ever going shooting? BLM land outside Victorville or Beaumont
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 07:43 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 11:41 PM (lr3d7)
Blame KHAAAAAAN!!!!
Seriously blame Khan. And Data. They explored the changes of the Klingons in a multi episode story arc of Enterprise. And it involved the an ancestor of Noonien Soong and some Eugenics Supermen that were connected to Khan.
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 07:45 PM (LI48c)
The problem was that the Reavers never really worked. A hyperviolent
group of savages that also manages to operate starships always struck me
as silly.
I've heard tell of a similar group of savages that managed complex feats of navigation and engineering, regarded as subhuman by those on whom they preyed.
Vikings, baby.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 07:45 PM (sQ0LB)
Hinds Country prosecutor put in jail one mayor because he was going around actually taking a sledgehammer to drug houses. The streets are worse in Hinds than Rankin though the car tag tax in Hinds is about 3x that of Rankin. The FBI convicted several members of the Jackson city council over a kickback scheme over who got the cable TV franchise. Jackson is and will remain a decaying hive of scum and free loaders. Nothing will change until it does become Detroit. Why? Because the ones who wanted to flee and could afford it, already have.
Now back to writing.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 07:45 PM (JaA49)
Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 07:45 PM (qnPg9)
Posted by: RWC-bring on O-Care at September 29, 2013 07:46 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 07:46 PM (b7yum)
I mean, the Klingons probably look at Vulcans and wonder "how come they even fight? aren't they all engineers?" As for humans, Duras actually says to Picard's face that humans are just diplomats who can't fight.
So our assumption that Klingons are all space-barbarians is just anti-Klingon racism :^)
Klingons have scientists, inventors and engineers, too. They're not "the Klingon ideal", and I'm sure they get lots of wedgies but they get the job done.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:46 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:49 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 07:49 PM (qnPg9)
Posted by: navybrat at September 29, 2013 07:49 PM (YwWOA)
Walt holes up with two eccentric uncles and draws cartoons about himself and a tiger.
Have no fear Hollywood has great new ideas for DAYS...
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 07:50 PM (b7yum)
So sorry to hear that, Carol.
Perhaps time to think about getting him out of Maine if you can.
He's not the only person to have been rudely handled by hospital-acquired infections. Jim Hoft over at the Gateway Pundit went in for a "routine" joint replacement, one of those out before you know it kind of things. Except his was anything but routine. It turned into weeks in the ICU with infected, damaged heart valves from an antibiotic-resistant bug that went systemic after getting in at the operative site.
I won't let a family member go in for surgery before I meticulously research the hospital's safety ranking and infection control protocols. Some of these places are little more than high-rise sewers. No kidding.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 07:51 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 07:51 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 07:53 PM (v6hyJ)
Many data centers have been located near hydro plants because they have cheap electricity. That factor overwhelmed other factors, like locating them near where the best data center talent lives.
Clustering is just one factor among many that effects where workers and firms choose to locate. But it's a powerful factor that is easily seen in the economic data and research.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 11:40 PM (ZPrif)
Clustering is all about an odd dynamic about innovation -- most innovations fail; but most of your innovations come from a small group of innovators. This means that it's highly likely that one of those innovators will end up torpedo-ing a company....and the company will experience immense pressure to purge him in order to (a) validate the management of the innovator that bet the farm on a loser, and (b) show that they have repented for committing so much time and resources to what, in retrospect, was a Really Dumb Idea.
The problem is, the guy that spun out that Really Dumb Idea that management over-committed to? At least he's spinning out ideas. So companies are going to want to be around innovators to scoop up the ones cast off.....and innovators are going to want to be around alternative companies so if their Really Dumb Idea explodes, they can still find employment. So you have a "cluster" -- which we all know is just 2/3 of a word.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 07:53 PM (T1005)
Think about it. It all makes sense now.
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 11:53 PM (v6hyJ)
Only if he starts quoting Shakespeare.
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 07:54 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 11:46 PM (d7tB2)
And beware the Klingon wedgie!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 29, 2013 07:55 PM (Rla3K)
Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 11:45 PM (qnPg9)
You should try the one we call "Sandra Fluke"....and twice on days that end in "y".
Posted by: Federation at September 29, 2013 07:56 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 07:57 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: General (Walt) Chang at September 29, 2013 07:57 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 11:49 PM (qnPg9)
Your translation software is faulty. It just said "knives" when you obviously meant "pounds".
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 07:58 PM (T1005)
And Walt's eyebrows have been becoming a bit bushier now that you mention it.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 08:01 PM (qnPg9)
Posted by: mindful webworker waving HOWDY! at September 29, 2013 08:01 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: RWC-bring on O-Care at September 29, 2013 08:01 PM (LpbKr)
Only if he starts quoting Shakespeare.
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 11:54 PM (LI48c)
I'm not sure who bears responsibility for bringing together Christopher Plummer and Shakespeare in ST VI, but it was a stroke of genius.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 08:02 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 08:02 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 29, 2013 08:02 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 29, 2013 08:03 PM (CeNUw)
Chapter 9 The Bad Guys
The Romulans - ... Romulans are highly militaristic, aggressive by nature, ruthless in warfare, and do not take captives. The Star Empire is a dictatorship, with some similarities to the warrior-stoic philosophies of Earth's ancient Roman Empire. ... There is complete equality between the sexes; women are often as found in command of a ship as are men.
The Klingons - ... Their only rule of life is rules are made to be broken by shrewdness, deceit, or power. Cruelty is something admirable; honor is a despicable trait. ... Rule is by absolute dictatorship and assassination is common. Their society is totally devoted to personal gain by the cleverest, strongest, or most treacherous. As a result, their vessels often operate much like "privateers," and warlike acts are a way of life. ... They have no patience with women, even their own, and treat them as sometime useful animals. ... All in all, the Klingons appear to have little (by our standards) in the way of redeeming qualities.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 08:04 PM (JaA49)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 11:57 PM (ZPrif)
Paging Dr. Arrowsmith, Dr. Arrowsmith to the white courtesy phone...
Actually, the Russians have done some really impressive work with phages in the past 20 or 30 years. The only problem is the way drugs are approved in this country, the FDA would never get them out in time to do any good.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 08:04 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 08:05 PM (BXLPR)
I know that. I'll even spot you that there are only two possible byproducts: lay down and die, or go full zombie.
Suppose there were those who saw what was going on, and figured out there was something in the water. Suppose some of them were seriously evil and realised that the Alliance was never going to come fix what they did.
Bam! Ruling caste of Reavers.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 08:05 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 08:06 PM (v6hyJ)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 08:07 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 29, 2013 08:07 PM (CeNUw)
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 08:08 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 12:04 AM (JaA49)
It is always interesting to see what sorts of retconning happen from early episodes of series and franchises
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 08:08 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 08:10 PM (d7tB2)
By 1983 a thriving cluster had developed around that IBM site as the PC went ballistic in the market.
I'd argue that cluster can actually stifle the real renegades by recycling people with preconceived notions of how shit's supposed to be done.
If the IBM team had adopted the closed architecture Apple, Osborne, Kaypro type approach, the PC would have flopped.
Having the BIOS "rom scan" documented, and publishing the BIOS source code, motherboard schematic and full hardware details in the PC's blue spine "Technical Reference" manual was a brilliant move that removed all mystery. Anyone could write code or make adapter cards for those machines and know how to make it work.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 08:12 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 08:12 PM (JaA49)
Posted by: otho at September 29, 2013 08:13 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 08:14 PM (qnPg9)
Posted by: RWC-bring on O-Care at September 29, 2013 08:16 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:13 AM (9gNQd)
Tribbles.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 29, 2013 08:16 PM (Rla3K)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 08:18 PM (Dsds2)
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:13 AM (9gNQd)
They went to John Kerry's plastic surgeon?
Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 08:18 PM (H0a0l)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 08:18 PM (JaA49)
By 1983 a thriving cluster had developed around that IBM site as the PC went ballistic in the market.
I'd argue that cluster can actually stifle the real renegades by recycling people with preconceived notions of how shit's supposed to be done.
If the IBM team had adopted the closed architecture Apple, Osborne, Kaypro type approach, the PC would have flopped.
Having the BIOS "rom scan" documented, and publishing the BIOS source code, motherboard schematic and full hardware details in the PC's blue spine "Technical Reference" manual was a brilliant move that removed all mystery. Anyone could write code or make adapter cards for those machines and know how to make it work.
Posted by: Purp at September 30, 2013 12:12 AM (9MLX+)
I think we're both pretty much on the same page -- clusters are effects and not causes. Once things start bubbling -- based on a non-fail innovation -- a cluster environment can arise if companies believe that innovators are more important than innovations.
If, contrariwise, you're in a "if you build it, they will come" mode, then you believe that you must encourage a cluster to form in order to drive your economic development....which is something I found when tooling around NC and TN -- all sorts of unlikely places had designated "research parks" to try to capture the lightning of NC's Research Triangle.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 08:19 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Your Local School System at September 29, 2013 08:19 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: boulder toilet nerd at September 29, 2013 08:19 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:13 AM (9gNQd)
Buuuussshhh!!!!
Posted by: LIV at September 29, 2013 08:20 PM (T1005)
That is all
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 12:19 AM (igDix)
DA BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 08:20 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: Travis Bickle at September 29, 2013 08:21 PM (bjND7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 08:21 PM (JaA49)
They went to John Kerry's plastic surgeon?>>>>>
His recent TV appearances are just brutal. One eye half-shut, skin like clay, weird shelf-cheeks jutting out almost as far as his nose, immobile forehead...
Does he ever wake up in the middle of the night to pee, glance in the mirror, and scream?
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 29, 2013 08:21 PM (TJw7K)
Posted by: Gingy (yes, married to our own Weirddave) at September 29, 2013 08:22 PM (jt8G9)
http://www.stuck-in-reverse.com/2013/04/05/car-girl-test/
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 08:22 PM (0wHyk)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 29, 2013 08:23 PM (igDix)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 08:24 PM (JaA49)
That is all
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 12:19 AM (igDix)
Hey, NCJ -- glad to see that you survived what must have been a staggering disappointment. And I say this as someone who loathes taxpayer-subsidized sports, the NFL in particular, who has never been to an NFL game, and only knows half of the teams' names and spits whenever they are uttered.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 08:24 PM (T1005)
http://tinyurl.com/otv44yr
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 08:26 PM (vJdyz)
His recent TV appearances are just brutal. One eye half-shut, skin like clay, weird shelf-cheeks jutting out almost as far as his nose, immobile forehead...
How are we ever going to know when one of these plasticized people has a stroke? Their faces are already paralyzed.
Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 08:26 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 08:26 PM (z4WKX)
http://www.stuck-in-reverse.com/2012/12/21/new-ferrari-revealed/
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 08:26 PM (0wHyk)
Unfortunately for administrators at LA Unified School District, Step 2 has involved at least 71 kids losing the iPads they were given by the city of Los Angeles as part of a pilot program aimed at eventually supplying all district kids with the snazzy, shiny devices.
Another 300 students figured out how to rig the security settings on their iPads to visit unauthorized social media websites. This prompted administrators to ban students from using the iPads while they are at home, away from school supervision — at least partly defeating the point of having the devices, which are intended as supplemental learning tools.
Posted by: Bender Rodriguez at September 29, 2013 08:27 PM (e8kgV)
A week early too
Uggggh
365. Street babes?
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 12:23 AM (igDix)
http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=343781#c21222847
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 08:27 PM (T1005)
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 08:27 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 12:24 AM (JaA49)
Well, at least you haven't dropped a space colony on me yet.
/dons dorky looking bike helmet
What? It's the only head protection I have on hand!
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 08:28 PM (0wHyk)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 29, 2013 08:29 PM (frroL)
And of course, they just raised state taxes for education dollars.
For the Children. Yay.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 08:29 PM (0wHyk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 12:18 AM
So it was the shitty movies? Which spilled over to the shitty tv reboots? Coz I don't remember the klingons going all elephant man in the excellent original series.
Posted by: otho at September 29, 2013 08:30 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: RWC-bring on O-Care at September 29, 2013 08:31 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:30 AM (9gNQd)
to be fair, I always read that Roddenberry always wanted the ridges but the budget for TOS happened
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 08:32 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2013 12:32 AM
Sounds like something George Lucas would say.
Posted by: otho at September 29, 2013 08:33 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 29, 2013 08:34 PM (CeNUw)
Posted by: Observicus at September 29, 2013 08:34 PM (e2cjy)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 29, 2013 08:34 PM (frroL)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 29, 2013 08:35 PM (JawqV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 08:35 PM (JaA49)
RPI has been pimping a "research park" spinoff between Troy and East Greenbush off rt4 for over 20 years now. AFAIK, nothing earth shattering has ever come out of it, although the university proper has done some solid break through work over the years. Certainly nothing of the magnitude of the industry the original IBM PC spawned has come out of that industrial park
The triangle area already had strong industrial presence before the RTP notion ever came along. Most IBM networking development had been done at the Raleigh site for a very long time.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 08:35 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 08:35 PM (qnPg9)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 29, 2013 08:37 PM (frroL)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 08:37 PM (BXLPR)
I hate attorneys, but sometimes you have to get one.
Get one.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 08:38 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 08:38 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 08:39 PM (JaA49)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 30, 2013 12:35 AM
Jeez, Kirk would lose his shit... and Scott would totally stab that.
Posted by: otho at September 29, 2013 08:39 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 29, 2013 08:39 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Observicus at September 29, 2013 08:39 PM (e2cjy)
So far as Apple is concerned, that's a feature and not a bug.
Note that Apple are up to their ears in aggressively funding the worst sort of Commiefornia proglodyte craziness. You can be sure they'll be pushing to give every CA school kid an iPad, an iPod and an iPhone at public expense next.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 08:41 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 11:05 PM (b7yum)"
Well, you're in for a treat. I was really surprised when it turned out that Hank wasn't really dead and when he set off the bomb that killed Skyler and the rest of Walter's family, that was a real shocker.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 29, 2013 08:42 PM (31Nrp)
NC Research Triangle is successful because it is located in Raleigh (state capitol) and right smack dab in the center of Duke-UNC-NCSU. Not very many cities have that kind of firepower going for it. Boston is the only other area like Raleigh that I can think of with that much juju.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 30, 2013 12:37 AM (BXLPR)
Silicon Valley has Stanford/UC Berkeley/Santa Clara, with a nod to UC Santa Cruz, UC Davis, and UC San Francisco (medical).
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 08:45 PM (T1005)
Yea...lost. That's the ticket...they got lost.
Not sold or traded for crack or anything nefarious like that, just lost like socks in a dryer.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 08:45 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 08:49 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 08:49 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 08:49 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: butthead at September 29, 2013 08:50 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 08:50 PM (ZPrif)
http://tinyurl.com/m848fwv
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 08:51 PM (JaA49)
Posted by: Observicus at September 29, 2013 08:53 PM (e2cjy)
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 08:54 PM (vJdyz)
Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2013 12:32 AM
Sounds like something George Lucas would say.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:33 AM (9gNQd)
George Lucas would say it and then digitally insert the ridges into the DVD and Blue Ray releases. All away missions would become huge open world environments with dewbacks and imperial walkers everywhere.
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 08:55 PM (LI48c)
RPI has been pimping a "research park" spinoff between Troy and East Greenbush off rt4 for over 20 years now. AFAIK, nothing earth shattering has ever come out of it, although the university proper has done some solid break through work over the years. Certainly nothing of the magnitude of the industry the original IBM PC spawned has come out of that industrial park
The triangle area already had strong industrial presence before the RTP notion ever came along. Most IBM networking development had been done at the Raleigh site for a very long time.
Posted by: Purp at September 30, 2013 12:35 AM (9MLX+)
I was toolin' around and kept finding offramps to "East Bumfuck Research Park" -- which I found extremely sad. There's some extremely pretty countryside and wonderful people around, but there are some places (mainly mill towns) that have just imploded. Now, I'm looking at them and thinking "why not just reboot?", but something sucked the soul out of 'em -- and a lot of that was embodied in the concept of a research park. It was like, "the XXX (cotton mill, cigarette plant, furniture factory....) went foom, we'll make a research park and everything will be right again." Very cargo cult.
Which, again, is sad. There are so many advantages to be had in the area, but when TPTB are fixated on a specific deus ex machina, things just sit.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 08:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: venus velvet at September 29, 2013 08:58 PM (g94P/)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 08:59 PM (BXLPR)
Then there are the questions of why it happens and how to influence it. A lot of govts spend a lot of money to try and jumpstart a cluster. Usually fails. But sometimes succeeds like with Research Triangle Park in NC which, as others have pointed out, had a lot to do with having UNC-Duke-NC State spitting out fresh young talent every year.
Big govt and big business can pour a ton of money into a site and jumpstart a cluster to a degree. And IBM back in its prime was about as big business as it gets. And modern universities are about as big govt as you can get.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 30, 2013 12:50 AM (ZPrif)
I would posit that government and business have little or nothing to do with clustering through intention and effort.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 09:01 PM (T1005)
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 09:03 PM (fOFYL)
Posted by: buzzion at September 30, 2013 12:55 AM
George Lucas would do it to all of it including the film. Then burn the originals. After replacing the original crew with Boyz 2 Men.
Posted by: otho at September 29, 2013 09:03 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 29, 2013 09:03 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 09:06 PM (fOFYL)
A TV news anchor in Santa Teresa, New Mexico was arrested for beating her husband.
Adrienne Alvarez, an anchor and reporter for NBC affiliate KTSM in El Paso, Texas, was arrested early Thursday morning on battery charges.
Posted by: Stefen Rodriguez at September 29, 2013 09:06 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 29, 2013 09:07 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2013 01:06 AM
Really? Onion is good stuff, eh?
Posted by: ricky at September 29, 2013 09:08 PM (9gNQd)
It happens because someone succeeded in a non-clustered backwater that was (originally) CHEAP to operate out of. Its an effect, not a cause.
You can generate cluster from scratch with a monopoly operation backstopping them -- ex. the industrial cluster that surrounded the US Army's Watervliet arsenal. However, when that backstop vanishes, so does most of the cluster because they'd so tuned their operations to that monopoly's needs.
When the Watervliet arsenal scaled back operations, a lot of surrounding business folded -- they didn't know how to stand on their own with a diverse range of product/services.
The Boca area took a hit for several years when IBM folded the site, but has bounced back and is even stronger now than when IBM was in town. Even though IBM left, many still had markets elsewhere and weren't dependent on IBM.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 09:09 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2013 01:03 AM (fOFYL)
Onion smell is produced by sulfur compounds in the juices. A quick scan of the internet indicates that acidic remedies (lemon juice, vinegar) have potential to knock that down. Alternatively, you can try synthesizing meth, which should soon render your onion problem trivial.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 09:10 PM (T1005)
Try cutting a fresh lemon in half and rubbing it on your hands. The only other stuff I know that will get rid of the smell of onion juice is Clorox, and that's tough on skin as well as on nasty smells.
Posted by: Basement Cat at September 29, 2013 09:11 PM (eawoP)
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2013 01:03 AM (fOFYL)
Salt. Use a liberal amount and pretend that it's soap for washing your hands.
Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 09:11 PM (KDUNf)
His family got a protective order. He made bail. When a judge later raised the amount, so did Chavez.
In the weeks since the Sept. 7 slaying that left three San Jose children virtually orphaned, some of the sadness gave way to a pointed question: Should Chavez -- who was in the country illegally -- have been able to post bail in the first place?
Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials contend they could have kept Chavez off the street, but were stymied by a county policy that severely curtails their access to inmates. But the local leaders who championed that policy say it remains an important protection against federal overreaching, and argue the criminal justice system has plenty of other ways to keep dangerous individuals locked up.
... of course ICE could have done more ... I blame Obama.
Posted by: Edward Snowden at September 29, 2013 09:12 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 09:13 PM (z4WKX)
“In the 1950s and 1960s, attempts to end the nuclear arms race began. Countries that already had nuclear arms decided to make do with what they had, and all the other countries, which found it too difficult to join the nuclear arms race, believed that the production of chemical and biological weapons was the poor man's way to deter the nuclear countries. This was especially true with regard to the Arab world. Not a single Arab country refrained from producing chemical and biological weapons,” claimed Heikal in the interview.
Posted by: Saddam Hussein at September 29, 2013 09:14 PM (e8kgV)
Salt. Usea liberal amount and pretend that it's soap for washing your hands.
Posted by: PMRich at September 30, 2013 01:11 AM (KDUNf)
Is that a Bloomberg liberal amount (none) or a Michael Moore liberal amount (one metric ton)?
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 09:14 PM (sQ0LB)
A new book claims that ‘unloved’ rescue cat Larry is disliked by the Cameron family and is little more than a public relations prop.
Evening Standard columnist Matthew dÂ’Ancona has caused a stir with the revelations in his new book, In It Together: The Inside Story of the Coalition Government.
But a Downing Street spokesman said: ‘Totally untrue. He is very popular with everyone in the building and we all get on purr-fectly well.’
Posted by: Morris T Cat at September 29, 2013 09:16 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 09:16 PM (9MLX+)
Remember here in la breaking bad hasn't even started yet
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 11:05 PM (b7yum)"
Well, you're in for a treat. I was really surprised when it turned out that Hank wasn't really dead and when he set off the bomb that killed Skyler and the rest of Walter's family, that was a real shocker.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 30, 2013 12:42 AM
OK, won't give anything away...just 2 words, Baby Bluuuuue, dah dah dah.
Great ending to a great show IMO.
Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 09:18 PM (eBupg)
Is that a Bloomberg liberal amount (none) or a Michael Moore liberal amount (one metric ton)?
LOL
That would be about a tsp. or so.
Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 09:18 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 09:19 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Purp at September 30, 2013 01:16 AM (9MLX+)
Or, he could be dropped off in the desert at sunset, handcuffed, with a pound of raw meat sewn into his shirt near a coyote pack and told "Viya con Dios".
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 09:20 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 09:21 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Papa Editor at September 29, 2013 09:22 PM (59r5R)
Posted by: Heisenberg at September 29, 2013 09:26 PM (BXLPR)
It is almost like it is a scam or something.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 30, 2013 01:19 AM (BXLPR)
....and the crying shame is that there is so much to be done, and so many folks idled when the XXX went foom, and it's such a green and pleasant place.....and, yet, they're chasing the idea of a "research park". How come the consultants don't materialize for a "make shit park"?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 09:26 PM (T1005)
Alright BB is over for everyone who's not in Hawaii.
"Jesse I am your father." Really didn't see that coming
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 09:27 PM (b7yum)
http://www.atbrestorations.co.uk/jaguar-e-type-196
Geez talk about basket case.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 09:32 PM (JaA49)
I remember the movie, in fact I watched it a few weeks ago on Netflix. I just like the idea, from a story perspective, of a madness borne by long-term operations in space. I think that it would have been interesting to see the series go in that direction.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 09:34 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 01:26 AM (T1005)
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The 5-year plan requires you to like the brown shoes. It is your patriotic duty to like the brown shoes. Now please Comrade, return to line, I estimate you will get your own pair of size 8-1/3 brown shoes any time within the next 6 hours.
Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 09:35 PM (PlzOe)
They have to be kidding.
In contemporary Commiefornia, and especially in the Bay Area, NO such "pointed questions" are EVER going to be asked about illegal aliens. Absolutely not, not once. Completely off the table. Not even open to a discussion about whether or not to have a discussion.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 09:35 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 01:10 AM (T1005)
I read the comments precisely for these sort of off-the-wall comments. Thanks for the laugh.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 09:36 PM (0wHyk)
Now please Comrade, return to line, I estimate you will get your own pair of size 8-1/3 brown shoes any time within the next 6 hours.
That would be my luck, shoes won't even fit.
Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 09:37 PM (KDUNf)
The wife's boobs haven't lost to gravity and the kid's not preggers so there's always that
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 12:37 AM (frroL)
Hi there. I looks like you still have hope. We need to fix that.
Posted by: God at September 29, 2013 09:38 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 09:40 PM (BXLPR)
That would be my luck, shoes won't even fit.
Posted by: PMRich at September 30, 2013 01:37 AM (KDUNf)
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As far as we can tell, the shoes have never fit anyone. Now please Comrade, do what is best for your country. Wait in line. Buy the shoes.
Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 09:40 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2013 12:28 AM (vJdyz)
What the hell is that from?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 09:42 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 30, 2013 01:34 AM (lr3d7)
Going for the mysterious effect that's just *there*, versus the utterly explained cause?
Kind of like the Force and midochlorians. Leave the ambiguity in there! Negative space!
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 09:42 PM (0wHyk)
Wasn't it great when Walt "Hannibal Smith" White, "Face" Pinkman, Huell "B.A. Baracus," and Saul "Howling Mad Murdock" built that tank outta the meth cooking equipment and blowed the hell outta the Nazis.
Then Walt "Hannibal" stood there and declared, "I love it when a plan comes together," lit up a fat cigar which promptly killed him because of the advanced lung cancer.
Epic.
Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 09:42 PM (H0a0l)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 30, 2013 01:42 AM (lr3d7)
Re-Animator after Dean Halsey (the bad guy in the film) gets his head cut off and is about to eat out his step-daughter
Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 09:44 PM (vJdyz)
Going for the mysterious effect that's just *there*, versus the utterly explained cause?
Kind of like the Force and midochlorians. Leave the ambiguity in there! Negative space!
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 30, 2013 01:42 AM (0wHyk)
Kind of. Serenity's explanation for the Reavers was ok, but I kind of like the idea that the Reavers were once men and women like the crew of the Serenity, and over time they changed due to long time spent in space and the things that they had to do to survive. It would have added some complexity to the series, as the question becomes, "will the crew's morally questionable actions lead it down the same path?"
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 09:47 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 09:50 PM (JaA49)
Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 09:53 PM (b7yum)
Serenity was an effort to appease all of the fans that got upset wehen the series stopped. Using a movie length show to roll everything from a series up into a nice neat package is always going to cause bad decisions to be made.
It worked, kinda - but Colorado Alex's point would have made for a better long term show
Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 09:55 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 10:03 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Weirddave at September 29, 2013 10:07 PM (jt8G9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 01:50 AM (JaA49)
Shame about the top on that car.
Everybody keeping the sharp pointy things away from NCJ? Good...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2013 10:08 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:03 AM (T1005)
Spent 4 hours patching Sis's roof yesterday, and I'm feeling it today.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2013 10:09 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:03 AM (T1005)
Spent 4 hours patching Sis's roof yesterday, and I'm feeling it today.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 30, 2013 02:09 AM (xa1/W)
Good thing nothing's happening tomorrow.....oh, wait....no....FFS....crap.....
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 10:13 PM (T1005)
Several beers would do me wonders right now. As it is, I still have 5 more hours until my relief gets here.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 10:14 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 10:14 PM (JaA49)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:03 AM
Good Lord Cthwhatever...how BIG is the dang garden? I used to farm and still garden but I've scaled down a lot. Mobility problems and a hip replacement in my 50s slowed me down. Turns out my hip issues were congenital, I've been wearing them out since I was born, damn. Whoever mentioned that idea for a thread was spot on, many hear might be able to give advice.
Do you frequent any garden forums? Maybe we could have a gardening thread here on Sundays. I don't do gaming much, like you could give a shit about football, but growing things I've liked all my life. Found a local source for the best Roma tomatoes ever called La Roma. If you like to eat good food you should like to garden. JMHO
Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 10:16 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 02:14 AM (JaA49)
Actually yes, but not because of the top, I'm just not all that enamored of British cars in general. Better that they go to those who are, that way they will be properly cared for.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2013 10:18 PM (xa1/W)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2013 10:20 PM (xa1/W)
At Least I'm not the only one working nights. C'mon 7 AM
Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 10:20 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 10:23 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 10:25 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: The Farmer at September 30, 2013 02:16 AM (eBupg)
We have a 1900' suburban house on a 8192' suburban lot in the middle of Silicon Valley. Unfortunately, we have an odd relationship with plants. As an example, we have spider plants in green, green with a white stripe in the middle, and white with a green stripe in the middle. We have asparagus ferns in five varieties and at least 8 types of mint.
In order to do this, the majority of our plants are in pots, including quite large ones. This includes bamboo and trees. By way of contrast, most of our edibles are in raised boxes in the side yard, where we mainly have tomatoes and peppers this year.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 10:27 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 29, 2013 10:38 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: PMRich at September 30, 2013 02:23
Squirrels suck, just bigger rodents than mice and rats.
My tomato yield was down this year, very dry in N. IL. A tip I learned recently, just discovered a bit a go, the color red helps them grow faster and mature better. You don't have to but commercial products, tho I like Gardener's Supply. Just cut up a red Folger's can and shield the plant early in the spring when it needs protection from the cold. Get's it off to a better start.
Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 10:38 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 29, 2013 10:43 PM (Vk2pI)
Note to self, rock gardens are heavy, but ultimately less work.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2013 02:38 AM (qyfb5)
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depends on weed growth. Get a bunch-o-weeds in between your rocks and it is a major bitch to clean them all out.
Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 10:43 PM (PlzOe)
Happy Birthday CarolT - and my goodness - I'm so sorry to read about your poor brother and his awful ordeal
Best wishes my dear and I'm thinking of you and hoping that your brother recovers
Posted by: aussie at September 29, 2013 10:45 PM (TXOY1)
Gotta love the names the Obama admin gave each state O-care exchange. Here's the names of a few that I just now learned about on tonight's news.
- Covered California
- No-stress Nevada
- Unlimited Utah
- Kickin' Kentucky
- Oh-what-a-feeling Oklahoma
- Who-da-ho Idaho
- Attaboy Alaska
- Swingin' South Dakota
...well, you get the drift. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 29, 2013 10:46 PM (T/XcG)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 29, 2013 10:47 PM (qyfb5)
/scribbles mental notes
http://occasionalcomics.com/panelbrains.pdf
I'm sure all you writer types know all this already - at least enjoy the pretty pictures. = D
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 10:53 PM (0wHyk)
Reached the that final straw.
Sprayed Roundup over the whole thing.
Now a nice even brown and:
NO. MORE. MOWING.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 29, 2013 10:54 PM (lAZep)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2013 02:47 AM (qyfb5)
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speaking of which, I have been told you can eliminate weeds with boiling water, but I have never tried it.
Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 10:54 PM (PlzOe)
Yea that could never happen.
Posted by: Mo Atta at September 29, 2013 10:55 PM (DL2i+)
Well, they don't operate them WELL.
Detuned engines and assorted make shift repairs and addons were prevalent and had to be faked so Firefly could "pass".
Take a look at some pics from the African Bush and you'll see an amalgam of hunter gatherer weaponry alongside AK's and LAAWS as SOP.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 29, 2013 10:59 PM (lAZep)
As for hospitals being dangerous places to pick up antibiotic resistant bugs - I think that when I need a knee replacement I will have it at home - get the surgeon and anaesthetist come over and use my kitchen table - I'm sure it's less likely for me to pick up any nasties that I haven't been exposed to already
My horror story - my old boss years ago had a routine knee replacement, picked up a staph infection in a lovely private hospital and within 2 years she was dead - she never really recovered from the initial op and spent most of that 2 years in and out of hospital when finally her body gave out
Posted by: aussie at September 29, 2013 11:02 PM (TXOY1)
I am hoping to plant the front yard in a particularly nasty version of poison oak.
No more "Get off my lawn" required.
Hey, kids, have fun! See you again soon!
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 11:02 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:27 AM (T1005)
Note to self, rock gardens are heavy, but ultimately less work.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2013 02:38 AM (qyfb5)
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depends on weed growth. Get a bunch-o-weeds in between your rocks and it is a major bitch to clean them all out.
Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 02:43 AM (PlzOe)
Round-up.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 11:04 PM (T1005)
Roddenberry wanted everyone to look human and they didn't have the latex in the 60s?
Posted by: DaveA at September 29, 2013 11:06 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 11:07 PM (T1005)
ex. Dexter having Deb killed off? Seriously, WTF were they thinking doing that?
I'd have kept her alive and had her get accepted at Quantico or something...then you could have her feeding a now mobile Dexter a steady supply of previously unsolvable FBI serial killer cases to "resolve" and you could changeup a reboot into roadtrip format all over the country
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 11:09 PM (9MLX+)
Reached the that final straw.
Sprayed Roundup over the whole thing.
Now a nice even brown and:
NO. MORE. MOWING.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 30, 2013 02:54
I' m not sure where you are at, but IMO just plant native plants. This idea of a green bluegrass lawn is really ridiculous. Forced on us by the white hertonormative partriarchy!!! Did I speel that right? J/K
Seriously, just investigate laying down some ground barriers for most of the yard, mulch it and plant native plants in strategic spots. Done w/ most of the maintenance for many years.
Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 11:16 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 02:54 AM
------True dat. It works best if you have a bad problem to add salt to the water. Cheaper than Roundup. Just don't expect anything to grow there for a long time.
Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 11:27 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 02:54 AM
------True dat. It works best if you have a bad problem to add salt to the water. Cheaper than Roundup. Just don't expect anything to grow there for a long time.
Posted by: The Farmer at September 30, 2013 03:27 AM (eBupg)
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I could never get comfortable with the idea of carrying around lots of boiling water. I guess you just get a huge teapot and be really careful.
Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 12:01 AM (PlzOe)
salt to the water. Cheaper than Roundup. Just don't expect anything to
grow there for a long time.
Posted by: The Farmer at September 30, 2013 03:27 AM (eBupg)
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does the salt tend to migrate, or can you keep it pretty localized?
do you have to worry about killing nearby trees because the roots are in the general area?
Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 12:03 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 30, 2013 01:03 AM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 30, 2013 05:03 AM (sQ0LB)
http://tinyurl.com/3y9l8d
Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 01:06 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 30, 2013 01:17 AM (9jfyN)
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Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 30, 2013 02:30 AM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 30, 2013 02:35 AM (0axsw)
Posted by: puddleglum at September 30, 2013 02:39 AM (zznfJ)
I rewatched Encino Man, essentially if I can figure out Pauly Shore I think I can solve America's decline.
Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 30, 2013 02:43 AM (9jfyN)
he was bedding Savannah....
http://tinyurl.com/pohkx4u
Safe for Work...
*sigh*
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