March 04, 2013

Overnight Open Threat (3-4-2013)
— Maetenloch

David Frum Takes a Dump on Andrew Breitbart's Grave

Frum couldn't contain himself and published a screed against Breitbart on the day he died. Now on the one year anniversary of Andrew's death he republished it - along with some extra smugness and snark.

This indifference to detail suffused all of Breitbart's work, and may indeed be his most important and lasting legacy. Breitbart sometimes got stories right (Anthony Weiner). More often he got them wrong (Sherrod). He did not much care either way. Just as all is fair in a shooting war, so manipulation and deception are legitimate tools in a culture war. Breitbart used those tools without qualm or regret, and he inspired a cohort of young conservative journalists to do likewise.

Why would Frum do such a thing? Because he's more thoughtful, reasonable, civil, empathetic and caring than the likes of all you and he knows it. Why can't you extremist losers see that he's the one that needs to be in charge of conservatism?

What America needs now, and what the Republican party most especially needs, are moderate-minded people who are also tough-minded - who won't be shrieked down and who won't be intimidated. "Civility" cannot mean: you yell, I yield. Conservatives deplore those old-line 1960s liberals who shriveled up when challenged by student radicals and Black Power militants. Well, now it's happening in our house, and it is we who are being tested: Do we dare confront our own radicals? It's not enough to have greater wisdom, greater tolerance, and greater patriotism if you don't also muster courage, endurance, and will to win.

Andrew inspired people. Frum mostly inspires people to actively dislike him.

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Global Warming/Changening Concern Slowly Fades Away

Public concern about environmental issues including climate change has slumped to a 20-year low since the financial crisis, a global study reveals.

Fewer people now consider issues such as CO2 emissions, air and water pollution, animal species loss, and water shortages to be "very serious" than at any time in the last two decades, according to the poll of 22,812 people in 22 countries including Britain and the US.

People talk a good game about environmentalism but when it comes down to actual dollars and cents it turns out it's really a luxury item. And one of the first things to be cut when times get tight.

Mugshot of the Day: The Patriot

You just don't see this degree of patriotism among drug dealers any more.

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Brave Atheist Suddenly Turns Pussy When Islam Comes Up

Richard Dawkins really, really hates religion and isn't afraid to say so...right up until the topic turns to Islam.

In a recent Al-Jazeerah interview, Richard Dawkins was asked his views on God. He argued that the god of "the Old Testament" is "hideous" and "a monster", and reiterated his claim from The God Delusion that the God of the Torah is the most unpleasant character "in fiction".

As you can see, Dawkins has no trouble attacking the Hebrew God in a most direct and uncompromising manner. No atheist wallflower he.

Asked if he thought the same of the God of the Koran, Dawkins ducked the question, saying: "Well, um, the God of the Koran I don't know so much about."

Also 5 Quatloos To Whomever Can Name the World's Most Oppressed Religion without looking.

All Portuguese-Americans Now Officially Oppressed

Because the Census Bureau has officially declared them Hispanic which means they can hop on the Affirmative Action train.

By the way the list of Portuguese descended Americans who are obviously hugely disadvantaged in life because of their heretofore unacknowledged Hispanic status include the actors Tom Hanks and Keanu Reeves and singers Katy Perry and Steve Perry. Affirmative action to the rescue!

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Texas Trying to Ban Aerial Photography?

And satellite imagery too I think.

Representative Lance Gooden has introduced HB912 which proposes: 'A person commits an offense if the person uses or authorizes the use of an unmanned vehicle or aircraft to capture an image without the express consent of the person who owns or lawfully occupies the real property captured in the image. ('Image' is defined as including any type of recorded telemetry from sensors that measure sound waves, thermal, infrared, ultraviolet, visible light, or other electromagnetic waves, odor, or other conditions.)'

..."A person is guilty of a class A misdemeanor if such person knowingly creates or assists in creating an image of the exterior of any residential dwelling in this state where such image is created by or with the assistance of a satellite, drone, or any device that is not supported by the ground."

But but I was told We'd Already Passed Peak Oil

US oil output now at the highest point in the last 20 years.

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Muslims In Sweden Practice Beheading Skills On Cats

Such nice people - we really should allow more to immigrate here to take care of that pesky stray animal and hobo problem.

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5 Classic Best-Sellers That Were Rejectected by Publishers

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone was rejected by multiple publishers for being too long for children and it was only by chance that it ever made it into print.
Anyway, deciding that she needed an agent, Rowling thumbed through a directory and chose Christopher Little because the name sounded like a character in a children's book. She shipped her manuscript off to Little's office, where it met a familiar fate: An assistant tossed it straight into the rejection pile because Little thought that children's books didn't make any money.

...Eventually fate (or possibly a curse on Rowling's part, we're not sure) intervened when Rowling's illustrations caught the eye of Little's assistant while she was sending out the rejections. She convinced Little, who signed Rowling on ... at which point publishers continued to reject Harry Potter. Finally, Little shipped it off to Bloomsbury Publishing, where chairman Nigel Newton agreed to look at it as a personal favor.

Newton then did something that apparently never occurred to other children's book publishers, which was to show it to an actual child. He offhandedly tossed the manuscript to his 8-year-old daughter, who devoured it in hours and came back to him demanding more. Only at that point did someone finally decide, "Eh, let's put some copies out there. Who knows, maybe this will make us all enough money that we can each live on an island made of gold."

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And my twitter thang.

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1 Hah!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 04, 2013 06:26 PM (GsoHv)

2 Frum is a large dump.

Posted by: AshleyJudd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at March 04, 2013 06:27 PM (Zd/NW)

3 Hey all, caught the Vikings premiere last night and liked it.  Anyone else see it?

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:28 PM (+iA5G)

4 Election Strategy: The Gingrich Briefing A memo written by Newt Gingrich and circulated amongst Republican Congressional staffers is making the rounds, and highlighting the dire straights that the Republican party is facing. It is both dire, and sadly also necessary to point out: The Democrats have an edge in organization, technology, and strategy. It will be a difficult task to even meet what the Democrats have already achieves, and are still improving upon. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=1607

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 04, 2013 06:28 PM (Vk2pI)

5 Take a number now if you want to take a dump on Frum's grave.  Gonna be a long wait if you get your ticket at the door.

Posted by: Aaron at March 04, 2013 06:28 PM (Tlix5)

6 Only a lack of manual dexterity prevented me from being first, you fuckers.

Posted by: Peaches at March 04, 2013 06:28 PM (3fX4B)

7 Being a guy, why would Charlie Brown have a dildo?

Posted by: Sequester, you guys at March 04, 2013 06:28 PM (Dll6b)

8 From the brilliant mind of Roger Ebert comes this piece in Saturday's Chicago-Sun Times about the pope.

In the dark hours of Thursday morning, Feb. 28, I awoke to find CNN featuring a continuous shot of a helicopter. The network cut between a close-up and a distant dot. It was Benedict, flying from the Vatican City. This was extraordinary attention for an ordinary cardinal, because as Benedict told the throng awaiting him, “I am no longer pope.” I am not a scholar of Catholic history, but I believe we were witnessing the first time the papal throne was vacant. It may have been occupied by rogues, scoundrels, impostors or even a woman, but always there was someone sitting there.

It gets better.

"I consider myself Catholic, lock, stock and barrel, with this technical loophole: I cannot believe in God."

Not believing in God, not knowing how popes are picked, thinking a woman might have been a pope, and considering yourself a Catholic only means you're stupid. And your movie reviews still suck.


http://tinyurl.com/cvtugzv

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 04, 2013 06:28 PM (PBm/l)

9 hi all
ugh

great ONT, thanx Maet as usual
you make the evenings fun again

Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at March 04, 2013 06:30 PM (BBWjt)

10 So Romney said yesterday, "It kills me not to be there, not to be in the White House doing what needs to be done." Hey dumb ass, if you had done what needed to be done during the campaign you would be in the White House! You showed up at a gunfight with a heavily armed opponent who was willing to destroy you and all you brought was a pom-pon and a smile. Please, just go away and STFU! Oh and take Karl Rove, Jeb Bush and the other RINOs with you.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 04, 2013 06:30 PM (PBm/l)

11 BEHEADING CATS?????  Maet, dude, you have srsly harshed my fuckin' mellow here.

Posted by: Peaches at March 04, 2013 06:30 PM (3fX4B)

12 Oh good, another "victim" class! Sonuvabitch!

Posted by: Emdoc at March 04, 2013 06:30 PM (DhR/C)

13 "US oil output now at the highest point in the last 20 years."

Did I read that here?  On a conservative blog?

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at March 04, 2013 06:30 PM (mopd5)

14 So, it's official... David Fromunda believes that the Republican Party should oppose conservatism, not liberalism. It's good of him to come right out and state it after so many years of denial.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at March 04, 2013 06:31 PM (IlZPE)

15 Beheading a cat in Florida is a state Felony.  You can do a year in prison for it.

Posted by: @PurpAv at March 04, 2013 06:32 PM (/gHaE)

16 I'd oppress Katy Perry's brains out.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 04, 2013 06:32 PM (3D74W)

17 Frum: boring scold unfit to tie Andrew's shoelaces.

Posted by: joncelli at March 04, 2013 06:32 PM (7GMxY)

18 Did I read that here? On a conservative blog?

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at March 04, 2013 10:30 PM (mopd5)



Forgot to take your lithium again?

Posted by: Sequester, you guys at March 04, 2013 06:32 PM (Dll6b)

19 Did I read that here? On a conservative blog?

go fuck yaself

Posted by: Peaches at March 04, 2013 06:33 PM (3fX4B)

20

You have to be an asshole to be a Frum.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 04, 2013 06:33 PM (gfmoS)

21 Dawkins is a coward and is very much not willing to tempt fate. The Goddess Irony has her eye on him.

Posted by: eman at March 04, 2013 06:33 PM (dZnxf)

22 Frum: It's not just that you're "not conservative enough," it's that you lie about who you are and what you stand for to sabotage people, you're a drooling idiot, and you're a smug fucking asshole. Dawkins: Kind of a ditto. Cowardly proxy for bigger thugs than yourself, you little douche. Swedish Muslims killing pets: Right back at ya. Man, it is a fucked-up news day. I think I'm gonna hide under some furniture or something. As Brian Blessed shouted on Blackadder: "I like not this news! Go and bring me some other news!"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 06:33 PM (bxiXv)

23 David Frum is a fucking wanker g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 04, 2013 06:33 PM (JMmQ9)

24 I've got to get some of those stickers for the bottom of my ketchup bottles. They still work for squeeze bottles, right?


Evening roonz and roonettez! On break at work, can't stay long.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 06:34 PM (xa1/W)

25 Degenerate Salafist Wahabi scum, they don't even know Muhammad was a nutty cat person. He made dogs ritually unclean and washed in the cat's water dish. http://muttaqun.com/cats.html

Posted by: Roy at March 04, 2013 06:34 PM (EuD1c)

26

Roger Ebert?  Now there's a jaw dropper.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 04, 2013 06:34 PM (Md8Uo)

27 OT/

Tonight I quite porn.  Specifically the 'Tubes porn.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 04, 2013 06:34 PM (UOjzE)

28 Of course, Portuguese are Latinos just like Caesar and Napoleon.

Posted by: Former Republican at March 04, 2013 06:35 PM (+iA5G)

29 GGE!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at March 04, 2013 06:35 PM (3fX4B)

30 Muslims In Sweden Practice Beheading Skills On Cats I can haz Jihad?

Posted by: Allah-saurus at March 04, 2013 06:35 PM (Vk2pI)

31 Peak oil: leftist wet dream. They don't seen to see any downside to deindustrialization.

Posted by: joncelli at March 04, 2013 06:35 PM (7GMxY)

32 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at March 04, 2013 06:35 PM (nUH8H)

33 Wait, so are Steve Perry and Katy Perry related?

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:35 PM (+iA5G)

34 Mitty Mouse roars. Go the flying fuck away, Mitt.

Posted by: eman at March 04, 2013 06:35 PM (dZnxf)

35 Anna Puma, if you haven't seen them, I have replies for you on the previous thread.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at March 04, 2013 06:35 PM (nUH8H)

36 What exactly makes Frum a conservative again?

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 04, 2013 06:36 PM (mV8sg)

37 I came.

Posted by: sTevo at March 04, 2013 06:36 PM (VMcEw)

38

Mr. Herman-Pooper-

Will your liberal friends not come out and play tonight? Hmmm? 

Please send a photo of yourself. I need a new one to post as a target at the range.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 04, 2013 06:36 PM (4Mv1T)

39 I'm out

Posted by: sTevo at March 04, 2013 06:36 PM (VMcEw)

40 Who do I owe?

Posted by: sTevo at March 04, 2013 06:37 PM (VMcEw)

41 8 - Five minutes of Googling and a cursory glance at Wikipedia shows how wrongheaded Ebert is, as usual.

Posted by: Il Padrino at March 04, 2013 06:37 PM (kveyS)

42 I'd like to oppress all over Katy Perry's tits.... Too much?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 04, 2013 06:37 PM (GEICT)

43 Yeah, how come conservatives weren't taken in by lefty dickhead doomsaying, like I was?

Posted by: Herbert Picklelicker at March 04, 2013 06:37 PM (kKoLo)

44 PEACHES!!! lol



Tonight I quite porn. Specifically the 'Tubes porn.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 04, 2013 10:34 PM (UOjzE)



I quite porn all the time. Quite like, that is.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 06:37 PM (xa1/W)

45  Fruuum!!!

Posted by: Khan!!! at March 04, 2013 06:37 PM (QPnFm)

46 Well, I am an energy investor and grateful to Obama for tripling US drilling since he was sworn in.

There will be an auction for 38 million federal acres on March 20th at the SuperDome in New Orleans.

Rumor is that EXXI is in line for a big buy that day.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at March 04, 2013 06:37 PM (mopd5)

47 Seem.

Posted by: joncelli at March 04, 2013 06:38 PM (7GMxY)

48 what up, hosers?

Posted by: garrett at March 04, 2013 06:38 PM (y2xFz)

49 37 What exactly makes Frum a conservative again? Posted by: Darth Randall at March 04, 2013 10:36 PM (mV8sg) Nothing, of course. He's like Weigel, or Maggie Mac, they just claim to be Republican so they can argue against every Republican value. They're *actually* Democrats, working to make the RP more like the Democrats. Weigel even got caught out admitting it with Journolist, got a new job and kept doing the same damned thing. It makes me want to digitally punch people when they quote his diarrheac spew.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 06:38 PM (bxiXv)

50 Wait, so are Steve Perry and Katy Perry related?

No.

However, Katy Perry's uncle, Frank Perry, directed "Mommie Dearest" in 1981.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mommie_Dearest_%28film%29

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 06:39 PM (7B7jB)

51 Considers himself a part of a religion but does not believe in God. And yet, does not see the disconnect.



Yep. Liberal.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 06:39 PM (xa1/W)

52 Also of Portuguese descent (but born in Canada): the Hotness that is Nellie Furtado.

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:39 PM (+iA5G)

53 Obama invented shale drilling!

Posted by: Herbert Picklelicker at March 04, 2013 06:39 PM (kKoLo)

54 43, take a number and get in line.

Posted by: eman at March 04, 2013 06:39 PM (dZnxf)

55

Frum is a self -defined conservative person.  He has been for years.  People can be whatever they pretend to be on the Internet.

And that's Frum. He's pretending to be something, to make a buck.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 04, 2013 06:40 PM (Md8Uo)

56

Heck, do you guys remember Lowell Weicker you guys?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 04, 2013 06:40 PM (gfmoS)

57 Also of Portuguese descent...Larry F'n Correia.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 06:40 PM (xa1/W)

58 I think it's funny that just last week "Former Republican" was arguing that the ancient Romans were Latinos, and now we see this about the Portuguese.  That troll may have a source inside the Census Bureau.

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:40 PM (+iA5G)

59 Census Bureau definitions can change--LIKE THAT !!!!!!!!!


'Hispanic' didn't exist until 1960; in that year, 1970, and 1980, 'Hispanic' was a race.  In 2000 and 2010, the next-to last question on the 'short form' ( which most people get ) asks you if you are Hispanic.  The last question asks you to pick a race from their list, which does not include Hispanic.


2000 and 2010 have been the only ones to have 'multi-racial' as an option for the 'race question'

Posted by: Sequester, you guys at March 04, 2013 06:40 PM (Dll6b)

60 Good evening. Yeah it's no surprise Dawkins is a pussy. Easy to trash the things that won't come after you screaming for blood. Bloody coward. Speaking of religion, did I mention I've been going to to Church the past few weeks? Yes, I'm pretty much a non-believer, but I've been going anyway. It's nice. Slip 'em a few bucks every week, too. Was thinkin' about, uh, taking the plunge as it were but I wouldn't exactly be doing so wholeheartedly so maybe not. It's probably enough that I'm going at all.

Posted by: Robert at March 04, 2013 06:40 PM (LUnTP)

61 I LOVE laughing at all of the 'peak oil' believers - from all of the different times they promised we would run out of oil SOON - over many years.  heh heh

He who laughs last, laughs BEST!

Posted by: carolina at March 04, 2013 06:41 PM (JebKA)

62 Drilling is sublime, I also invest heavily in AstroGlide.

Posted by: Herbie the Analpopper at March 04, 2013 06:41 PM (EV9p4)

63 *quit*

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 04, 2013 06:41 PM (UOjzE)

64 From the brilliant mind of Roger Ebert comes this piece in Saturday's
Chicago-Sun Times about the pope.


ExSnipe, also from the same Ebert column:

"A child conceived through incest or rape is innocent and deserves the right to be born."

WTF.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 06:42 PM (7B7jB)

65 Herdie bler, Obama Dick bork bork bork.

Posted by: Herbie Dickenschlurper at March 04, 2013 06:42 PM (7GMxY)

66 Obama is responsible for the domestic oil boom? This guy got into CAC's stash.

Posted by: eman at March 04, 2013 06:42 PM (dZnxf)

67 47 Well, I am an energy investor and grateful to Obama for tripling US drilling since he was sworn in.

There will be an auction for 38 million federal acres on March 20th at the SuperDome in New Orleans.

Rumor is that EXXI is in line for a big buy that day.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at March 04, 2013 10:37 PM (mopd5)


--For someone who (allegedly) invests in energy you know jack shit about the industry,  You do know that the booms in TX and ND are because of drilling on private land where Zero can't block it, right?

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:42 PM (+iA5G)

68

Fuck David Frum in his cunt.  See what I did there.

 

From the gun thread, I think this is fucking hilarious.  COMPROMISE.  Good, let the fucking idiots pass it and get their press.  Outlaw what is already outlawed.  I couldn't be more fucking supportive.  Most of us have said, let's just make up names of weapons and these fucking idiots wouldn't know the difference.

 

Finally, just ordered Joseph Frank's work on Dostoevsky and I couldn't be more excited to read it.  Also ordered Hillsdale College's complete Winston Churchill biography and documents (holy fuck is that expensive) and can't wait to read that.  Of the political leaders in WWII, Churchill stood head and shoulders above the rest of the idiots, even including FDR.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2013 06:42 PM (3Ws2O)

69 Reading Frum? Like Rape.

Posted by: Judd The Puffy at March 04, 2013 06:42 PM (eHIJJ)

70 *quit*

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 04, 2013 10:41 PM (UOjzE)



Oh.



Well, in that case...no. Be serious.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 06:43 PM (xa1/W)

71

RE:  Eggplant

 

Shhh...let him go...he's on a roll...

Posted by: JQP at March 04, 2013 06:43 PM (GVL0g)

72 49 what up, hosers?

Posted by: garrett at March 04, 2013 10:38 PM (y2xFz)


--Take off!

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:43 PM (+iA5G)

73 I like lots of brown solid material coming from my bore-holes...

Posted by: Herbie the Analpopper at March 04, 2013 06:43 PM (EV9p4)

74 Frum looks like the love child of Clayface from Batman and Ashley Judd.

Posted by: fartist at March 04, 2013 06:43 PM (UPFSl)

75 Posted by: ExSnipe at March 04, 2013 10:28 PM (PBm/l) Always knew that Ebert was an evil, stupid cocksucker, but that piece made my jaw drop. 'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 04, 2013 06:43 PM (MBqvE)

76 As for the Portugese...well, Portugal and Spain are on the Iberian Peninsula and Portugal was a part of Spain for a long time but Portugese and Spanish are about as similar as English and German and I'm of the understanding that the Portugese and Spanish fucking hate each other. So I'm gonna say this is a giant crock.

Posted by: Robert at March 04, 2013 06:43 PM (LUnTP)

77 RAAAAAAAAAAGE! WWAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGAAAAARRRBBBLLLEEE!!!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 06:43 PM (bxiXv)

78 Heck, do you guys remember Lowell Weicker you guys?

Yup.  What a fuckin' douche.  Is he dead yet? 

Posted by: Peaches at March 04, 2013 06:44 PM (3fX4B)

79 those old-line 1960s liberals who shriveled up when challenged by student radicals and Black Power militants.

Those student radicals and Black Power militants now run the liberals.  And Frum wants to make nice with them?  What an ass.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 04, 2013 06:44 PM (xjpRj)

80

Is this pistol any good for concealed carry?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=16SIvVKtuks


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 04, 2013 06:44 PM (gfmoS)

81

HH,

Correlation =/= causation

Just a tip.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 04, 2013 06:44 PM (B4jfv)

82 I really wish average Joe would get a hobby.

Posted by: joncelli at March 04, 2013 06:44 PM (7GMxY)

83 Hey all, caught the Vikings premiere last night and liked it. Anyone else see it?

I recorded Vikings and The Bible but haven't had a chance to watch either yet. 

Posted by: no good deed at March 04, 2013 06:45 PM (mjR67)

84 I won't mention that Obama's ACTUAL policy on energy was to put all his money on battery technology and electric cars.

1 million by 2015, baby!

Posted by: Herbert Picklelicker at March 04, 2013 06:45 PM (kKoLo)

85 Obama is responsible for the domestic oil boom?

This guy got into CAC's stash.

Posted by: eman at March 04, 2013 10:42 PM (dZnxf)



In a way I guess he is. He's driven up the cost of oil through his policies and therefore made domestic oil worth going after. Unintended consequences to be sure, but there it is. OPEC hardest hit.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 06:45 PM (xa1/W)

86 62 Good evening.

Yeah it's no surprise Dawkins is a pussy. Easy to trash the things that won't come after you screaming for blood. Bloody coward.

Speaking of religion, did I mention I've been going to to Church the past few weeks? Yes, I'm pretty much a non-believer, but I've been going anyway. It's nice. Slip 'em a few bucks every week, too. Was thinkin' about, uh, taking the plunge as it were but I wouldn't exactly be doing so wholeheartedly so maybe not. It's probably enough that I'm going at all.

Posted by: Robert at March 04, 2013 10:40 PM (LUnTP)


--So are you going to impress a chick?

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:45 PM (+iA5G)

87 Moonlight Sonata + metal = Hold On To Your Ass!

Posted by: Robert at March 04, 2013 06:45 PM (LUnTP)

88 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl6-b_8L99o

Posted by: Robert at March 04, 2013 06:45 PM (LUnTP)

89 I asked this in the last thread: How do you scroll down to the very bottom of a really long page on an iPad? You scroll to the top by tapping the top of the screen, but how do you do the opposite?

Posted by: EC at March 04, 2013 06:45 PM (doBIb)

90 I really wish average Joe would get another hobby.

fify

Posted by: Peaches at March 04, 2013 06:45 PM (3fX4B)

91 Damn. Did anyone get the license number of that flag?

Posted by: Eric Butkiewicz at March 04, 2013 06:46 PM (eHIJJ)

92 Re Roger Ebert: I have *so* much more respect for the reviews and opinions of his movie reviewing partner post-Siskel, Richard Roeper, that it's not even funny.

Did you guys catch it at Twitchy when Roeper acknowledged on Twitter that he wondered if Ann Romney would ever have been granted the same courtesy to appear and/or read the Best Pic winner at the Oscars?

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 06:46 PM (7B7jB)

93 I recorded Vikings and The Bible but haven't had a chance to watch either yet. Posted by: no good deed at March 04, 2013 10:45 PM (mjR67) watched The Bible, it was good. Had to stop at The Viking because it was WAY to late late need sleep and all

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 06:46 PM (4Nkxq)

94 "US oil output now at the highest point in the last 20 years." Yeah Technology! Now if we would stop debasing our currency maybe the price would go down.

Posted by: toby928© presents at March 04, 2013 06:46 PM (QupBk)

95
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=16SIvVKtuks

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 04, 2013 06:47 PM (gfmoS)

96 --So are you going to impress a chick? Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 10:45 PM (+iA5G) Well in the last month and a half I've gone to Church more times than the previous 32 years combined which seems to have impressed my mother. Does that count?

Posted by: Robert at March 04, 2013 06:47 PM (LUnTP)

97 'The Bible' blew chunks.  It was like someone made a series of skits based on 'Stuff Jews Said, Vol. III' - Cliffs Notes.   Don't bother.

Posted by: JQP at March 04, 2013 06:47 PM (GVL0g)

98 That Frum fucker and any of my boots would be in sudden death overtime on an IQ test, just sayin'

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 06:47 PM (4Nkxq)

99 How do you scroll down to the very bottom of a really long page on an iPad? You scroll to the top by tapping the top of the screen, but how do you do the opposite? Posted by: EC at March 04, 2013 10:45 PM (doBIb) No shortcut that I know. Just manually scroll all the way down.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 04, 2013 06:47 PM (GEICT)

100 ITC, got the package in todays mail. Can't wait to put it to good use. I'm thinking that Thursday night I'll be spending some quality time with my reloading press.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 06:47 PM (xa1/W)

101 Islam should be wiped out, to the last man, woman and child. 

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 04, 2013 06:47 PM (xjpRj)

102 BTW...those are 230gr, right?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 06:48 PM (xa1/W)

103

Exsnipe:  Amen, ELEVENTY!!!  Roger Ebert fucking sucks and he always will.  That fuck is human scum.

 

And cat beheading???  Seriously, can we get it on with these fucking throwbacks in dirty nightshirts and get it over with.......

Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2013 06:48 PM (3Ws2O)

104 Swedish Muslims beheading cats.  That's just great.  Now we have something else to worry about. 

Posted by: IKEA at March 04, 2013 06:48 PM (mjR67)

105

66, 77

 

I didn't read Ebert's entire article. After reading a paragraph or two I could feel brain cells actually dying so I had to stop.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 04, 2013 06:48 PM (PBm/l)

106 Ask Siri to do it???

(At which point she probably replies "hey, I ain't your bitch...")

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 06:48 PM (7B7jB)

107 Sad little kitty cat : - ( AllenG if you're still about, I hit you back on Purps post below. The ONT, I think, is the hardest gig on this blog. Maet, really good one.

Posted by: L, elle at March 04, 2013 06:48 PM (0PiQ4)

108 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 04, 2013 10:47 PM (gfmoS) The link won't work if you copy it from an embed, it's old, it's been posted here before, and no.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 06:48 PM (bxiXv)

109 Difference between Breitbart and Frum;

Breitbart wouldn't have his teenaged son call Mark Levin's show because he's too chickenshit to debate him by himself.

That, Frum, you fat phony fuck, is why Breitbart is on avatars while you beg leftists for table scraps


Posted by: kbdabear at March 04, 2013 06:48 PM (mCvL4)

110 No shortcut that I know. Just manually scroll all the way down. Sucks....

Posted by: EC at March 04, 2013 06:48 PM (doBIb)

111 good for you Serious Cat

Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at March 04, 2013 06:49 PM (BBWjt)

112 103, no. That would be evil.

Posted by: eman at March 04, 2013 06:49 PM (dZnxf)

113 David Frum:Conservatism::Roger Ebert:Catholicism

Posted by: alex® at March 04, 2013 06:49 PM (m9cpE)

114 BTW...those are 230gr, right? Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 10:48 PM (xa1/W) how fast do you push them?

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 06:49 PM (4Nkxq)

115 Sorry, wingnuts.

http://tinyurl.com/cde4teh

Obama is auctioning 75% of the offshore capacity in one plan.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at March 04, 2013 06:49 PM (mopd5)

116 78 As for the Portugese...well, Portugal and Spain are on the Iberian Peninsula and Portugal was a part of Spain for a long time but Portugese and Spanish are about as similar as English and German and I'm of the understanding that the Portugese and Spanish fucking hate each other.

So I'm gonna say this is a giant crock.

Posted by: Robert at March 04, 2013 10:43 PM (LUnTP)


--The Spanish/Portuguese thing is a classic example of the Narcissism of Small Differences.  My first visit to a Portuguese speaking country (Angola, of all places), I could easily get most of the billboards based on my knowledge of Spanish.  They're distinct languages, but the respective cultures have similar strengths and flaws.

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:49 PM (+iA5G)

117 Public concern about environmental issues including climate change has slumped to a 20-year low since the financial crisis, a global study reveals.

*****

Told you "Live Earth" would work

Posted by: AlGore at March 04, 2013 06:49 PM (SkyIE)

118 Frum is Ashley Judd with tits.

Posted by: norwegian hispanic at March 04, 2013 06:49 PM (EhSF0)

119 well I am fading fast
just wanted to pop in and tell all of my ONT box friends that I'm grateful you all are here (present trolls excepted of course)
have a great Tuesday everyone
good night

Posted by: chemjeff hates snow at March 04, 2013 06:50 PM (BBWjt)

120 Well in the last month and a half I've gone to Church more times than the previous 32 years combined which seems to have impressed my mother. Does that count? Posted by: Robert at March 04, 2013 10:47 PM (LUnTP) Good for you. Keep going. Sunday school classes, or Life Groups as they're sometimes called, are good. If the time comes to make a decision, you'll know. There'll no wondering or having to push yourself.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 04, 2013 06:50 PM (GEICT)

121 AllenG if you're still about, I hit you back on Purps post below. Saw it. I don't get down south that much, and my wife hates going further south than we are (she's from Michigan). Maybe I'll get to check it out one day. Though we may be going to San Antonio on Wednesday to catch the William Travis letter on display at the Alamo. **history geek-gasm**

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at March 04, 2013 06:50 PM (nUH8H)

122 EC -- if you get an answer that works, please tell me. I have the same trouble on my iphone.

Posted by: L, elle at March 04, 2013 06:51 PM (0PiQ4)

123 120 Frum is Ashley Judd with tits. Posted by: norwegian hispanic at March 04, 2013 10:49 PM (EhSF0) Come on, he's like three Ashely Judds, at least. And dumber than a committee of seven.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 06:51 PM (bxiXv)

124 Frum is Ashley Judd with tits. Posted by: norwegian hispanic at March 04, 2013 10:49 PM (EhSF0) gack, really fucking bad tits, with fur

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 06:51 PM (4Nkxq)

125 I have been on hold for two hours trying to get Orbitz to take off a hold on Mr. H's credit card. Orbitz is not interested in keeping my business. Charged me twice and gave me no reservations. My arm hurts from holding the cell phone up and my ears hurt from the tinny stereo music.

Posted by: ALH at March 04, 2013 06:51 PM (eqV3Q)

126 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 06:51 PM (kaalw)

127 how fast do you push them?

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 10:49 PM (4Nkxq)



Depends on how heavy they are. I usually go about 6.5 - 7.0 gr of Power Pistol for 230gr slugs.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 06:52 PM (xa1/W)

128 89 Moonlight Sonata + metal = Hold On To Your Ass! Posted by: Robert at March 04, 2013 10:45 PM (LUnTP) That was awesome!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 04, 2013 06:52 PM (NEIxp)

129

Ashley Judd is David Frum with tits?

 

What?

 

Actually, Ashley Judd is Jar - Jar Binks.

 

Jar-Jar Judd.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 04, 2013 06:52 PM (Md8Uo)

130 RE: Publishers rejection
Frum et al
fallacy of the expert
Liberals, self appointed experts in all things. no evidence to support claim of expertise. They should be shunned.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 04, 2013 06:52 PM (gAkC9)

131 L,elle, I will!

Posted by: EC at March 04, 2013 06:52 PM (doBIb)

132 Evening all. EC, if you find out, let me know.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at March 04, 2013 06:52 PM (pC72t)

133 And now I'm out. I'm going to get this chapter done tonight if it kills me.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at March 04, 2013 06:53 PM (nUH8H)

134 Posted by: ALH at March 04, 2013 10:51 PM (eqV3Q)

OMG, ALH, that sounds brutal.  I do hope you have adult beverages to assuage your pain.

Posted by: Peaches at March 04, 2013 06:53 PM (3fX4B)

135 Will do.

Posted by: EC at March 04, 2013 06:53 PM (doBIb)

136 **Top Five Questions David Frum Has Asked Siri On His iPhone**

5. "What are people in flyover country like? Are they like that wild sex documentary I saw back in college... oh yeah, now I remember, 'Deliverance'?"

4. "Do you know the way to San Jose?" (followed by 45 mins of jiggling and snickering)

3. "Why don't girls like me?"

2. "I'm only human. How long do I have to wait before George Clooney finally invites me to one of his dinner parties?"

1. "Why does it burn so bad when I pee?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 06:53 PM (7B7jB)

137 whoops.  I meant teats -- as in milk cow (4).

Posted by: norwegian hispanic at March 04, 2013 06:53 PM (EhSF0)

138 Clarence cracks me up.

Posted by: toby928© presents at March 04, 2013 06:53 PM (QupBk)

139 85 Hey all, caught the Vikings premiere last night and liked it. Anyone else see it?

I recorded Vikings and The Bible but haven't had a chance to watch either yet.

Posted by: no good deed at March 04, 2013 10:45 PM (mjR67)


--If you liked Rome, you'll probably like Vikings as well.  It looks like it will take similar artistic license with some big historical events, with painstaking detail as to everyday life, dress, weapons, etc.  It's nice to catch Gabriel Byrne in something again too.

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:53 PM (+iA5G)

140 See ya tomorrow AG

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 04, 2013 06:53 PM (GEICT)

141 Well hell, break is over. Catch you all on my lunch break, time to go pretend I work here. Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 06:54 PM (xa1/W)

142 Just a tip. Posted by: Grey Fox at March 04, 2013 10:44 PM (B4jfv) Not falling for this again.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 04, 2013 06:54 PM (FsUAO)

143 Depends on how heavy they are. I usually go about 6.5 - 7.0 gr of Power Pistol for 230gr slugs. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 10:52 PM (xa1/W) aren't all 230gr the same heavy? P.S. get a Chronygraph, best $100 you will spend in reloading. There is a comfort on knowing how fast its going

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 06:54 PM (4Nkxq)

144 47 Well, I am an energy investor and grateful to Obama for tripling US drilling since he was sworn in.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at March 04, 2013 10:37 PM (mopd5)  I'm an energy consumer, and I appreciate how gas prices have doubled since your boyfriend took office. Asshole.

Posted by: joejm65 at March 04, 2013 06:55 PM (UZuc4)

145 91 I asked this in the last thread:

How do you scroll down to the very bottom of a really long page on an iPad? You scroll to the top by tapping the top of the screen, but how do you do the opposite?

****

To scroll down, you have to throw it out of a 10 story window.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 04, 2013 06:55 PM (SkyIE)

146 57
Frum is a self -defined conservative person. He has been for years. People can be whatever they pretend to be on the Internet.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 04, 2013 10:40 PM

Bon Jour!

Posted by: David Frum's French Conservative Date at March 04, 2013 06:55 PM (mCvL4)

147

San Antonio is a really nice city, for about 7-8 months out of the year.

 

Really hot in the summer.

 

My favoritest big city in Tejas.

 

The first time I visited the Alamo, it kinda makes you tear up a little.  The place is historic.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 04, 2013 06:55 PM (Md8Uo)

148 Robert, keeping Mom happy is never a bad thing.

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:55 PM (+iA5G)

149
   I was under the impression (from Civics classes) that the Census was done in order to ensure proper representation in Congress.

  AFAIK, it ONLY dealt with the number of people counted in each state.  No ethnicity or gender was ( or is, or should be) considered.   Is this an error?  Were my teachers wrong?

Posted by: irongrampa at March 04, 2013 06:56 PM (SAMxH)

150 David Frum. Isn't it interesting how certain "intellectual" people become, at a key point of frustration in their lives, out and out pieces of shit. And they really go all-in on the POS thing. To the point of trashing truly good people after they've died. Can you get much lower that that? I've known a few people who have gone this route. I'm calling it the "Frum Phenomenon."

Posted by: rrpjr at March 04, 2013 06:56 PM (nYJGY)

151 I strongly suspect Ebert *does* believe in God.  It's just not very socially acceptable to say that he thinks God's name is "Roger Ebert".

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at March 04, 2013 06:56 PM (wbeNt)

152 Were my teachers wrong? Posted by: irongrampa at March 04, 2013 10:56 PM (SAMxH) At least half the time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 06:57 PM (bxiXv)

153 People can be whatever they pretend to be on the Internet. Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 04, 2013 10:40 PM Ain't it great?!!?

Posted by: BCochran1981 with the 10 inch dick at March 04, 2013 06:57 PM (GEICT)

154 Someone, put me some knowledge. Hubby thinks GM is making money, and has paid all their bailout money back to the US taxpayers. Since I'm a skimmer, I can't convince him otherwise. No hard data, just a general perception that there's no way unless they're using accounting methods which I can't explain.

Posted by: Kalneva at March 04, 2013 06:57 PM (S+/pH)

155 What a night. Thank goodness it's Friday.

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 04, 2013 06:57 PM (wSTfB)

156 Ain't it great?!!? Posted by: BCochran1981 with the 10 inch dick at March 04, 2013 10:57 PM (GEICT) Until someone tries to copy and crop your art.

Posted by: CAC at March 04, 2013 06:58 PM (HQgFB)

157 149
San Antonio is a really nice city, for about 7-8 months out of the year.

Really hot in the summer.

My favoritest big city in Tejas.

The first time I visited the Alamo, it kinda makes you tear up a little. The place is historic.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 04, 2013 10:55 PM (Md8Uo)


--The cute kitteh hanging out in front was a bonus when we went last May.

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 06:58 PM (+iA5G)

158 Thank goodness it's Friday.

Oh, bless your heart, darlin'

Posted by: Peaches at March 04, 2013 06:58 PM (3fX4B)

159 Sure, the Portuguese are now considered hispanic ..

Until a Portuguese guy in Newark shoots a black gangsta in a hoodie

Posted by: kbdabear at March 04, 2013 06:58 PM (mCvL4)

160 157 What a night. Thank goodness it's Friday. Posted by: harleycowboy at March 04, 2013 10:57 PM (wSTfB) Dude, do *not* scare me like that.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 06:58 PM (bxiXv)

161 ITC, got the package in todays mail. Can't wait to put it to good use. I'm thinking that Thursday night I'll be spending some quality time with my reloading press. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 04, 2013 10:47 PM (xa1/W) Fantastic! Hope they'll work out for ya. 230g, yep. I'm currently loading 'em with 5.5g of Unique, and getting good groups with my RIA 1911, but I'm also getting smoky cases. I can live with that, but I might need to get a bit more aggressive with my crimp. I kept it pretty mild because I didn't want to cut into the lead bullet too far.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 04, 2013 06:58 PM (MBqvE)

162 People can be whatever they pretend to be on the Internet. Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 04, 2013 10:40 PM

Ain't it great?!!? Posted by: BCochran1981 with the 10 inch dick at March 04, 2013 10:57 PM (GEICT)

Sure is. Love you guys!!!

Posted by: Mila Kunis, whom qdpsteve has slept with at March 04, 2013 06:59 PM (7B7jB)

163 Working on being a Happy Warrior like the Breitbart. Frum can sod off. He thinks they will kill him last if he grovels enough.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 04, 2013 07:00 PM (FsUAO)

164 Rowling gives all of us would be authors hope we can make the big times.

Frum only needs a p to be what he is - a frump. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 04, 2013 07:00 PM (h4Bce)

165 I took Spanish in HS, so I'm now a hispanic. I believe the govrnmt call that 'self identify'

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 07:00 PM (4Nkxq)

166 AllenG -- really jealous! lucky duck. Have you been to Goliad, Gonzales, and San Jacinto? All must do destinations.

Posted by: L, elle at March 04, 2013 07:00 PM (0PiQ4)

167 (Hey, if you're gonna dream, dream BIG I say.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 07:00 PM (7B7jB)

168 What's all this I hear that since they can't pass a budget that we're going to have a squid castration? Am I missing something here?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 04, 2013 07:00 PM (JZA60)

169 156 Someone, put me some knowledge. Hubby thinks GM is making money, and has paid all their bailout money back to the US taxpayers. Since I'm a skimmer, I can't convince him otherwise. No hard data, just a general perception that there's no way unless they're using accounting methods which I can't explain.

****

The totally saved the entire planet by making the fucking Volt.  Technically, we owe them now.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 04, 2013 07:00 PM (SkyIE)

170 Mmmmmkay, think I'm gonna go nighty night. Yes, I think I am being premature about becoming a full member at Church. But it has been nice and I do want to keep going so I think I will. And now...BED! Good night, ONT!

Posted by: Robert at March 04, 2013 07:01 PM (LUnTP)

171 It's NOT Friday? AAAHHHHH SHIT!

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 04, 2013 07:01 PM (wSTfB)

172 Tonight's Load HEAT installment is the lovely Sherilyn Fenn, star of Twin Peaks, The Wraith, and a bunch of other crap.

http://tinyurl.com/cztnynt

Posted by: xbradtc at March 04, 2013 07:01 PM (O0L6N)

173 156 Someone, put me some knowledge. Hubby thinks GM is making money, and has paid all their bailout money back to the US taxpayers. Since I'm a skimmer, I can't convince him otherwise. No hard data, just a general perception that there's no way unless they're using accounting methods which I can't explain. Posted by: Kalneva at March 04, 2013 10:57 PM

Charge a shitload of money to your Visa card

Take your hubby's American Express card to pay it off

That is how GM "paid back" the money. If he doesn't get the analogy, hopefully you signed a prenup


Posted by: kbdabear at March 04, 2013 07:01 PM (mCvL4)

174

Muzzies beheading cats for practice. That's fantastic.

 

Maybe we should launch a Trident missile at Mecca and Medina. You know, for practice.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 04, 2013 07:01 PM (PBm/l)

175 Good news for me. I was cleaning out the garage and found a box with my old Lee Anniversary reloading kit along with a bunch of powder, brass and bullets for .45ACP. I guess I never got around to using them since .45 was so cheap back then. But not so these days.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 04, 2013 07:01 PM (pAlYe)

176 Kalneva: http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/general-motors-debt/ Try that for starters.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at March 04, 2013 07:02 PM (FsUAO)

177 >>>>>-If you liked Rome.......artistic license with some big historical events, with painstaking detail as to everyday life, dress, weapons, etc<<<<

I kind of wish they had opened the Rome series a couple of years before Caesar crossed the Rubicon. I think that street level common man view of the brawls between Clodius and Milo would have been kick ass.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 04, 2013 07:02 PM (tRHND)

178 Same here, Reader C.J. sniiff. sniff.

Posted by: L, elle at March 04, 2013 07:02 PM (0PiQ4)

179 Someone, put me some knowledge. Hubby thinks GM is making money,...

Immediate lobotomization is the only cure.

Easy and quick to perform. You can get it done tonight with some NyQuil, your own bed, and a coat hanger...

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 07:02 PM (7B7jB)

180 Frum should realize once he seriously advocates any of the conservative positions he still holds (immigration & national security,) he's persona non grata MSNBC just brings him on to repeat his usual "epistemic closure" blah blah blah

Posted by: JDP at March 04, 2013 07:02 PM (8HhF2)

181 No hard data, just a general perception that there's no way unless they're using accounting methods which I can't explain. Posted by: Kalneva at March 04, 2013 10:57 PM (S+/pH) http://preview.tinyurl.com/cxb2yva Basically, there's a lot of government money still in GM, and the stock price is less than half of what's needed for the government to *not lose* money selling it. And they've apparently lost some on a recent sale at like 60% of paid value. Basically, GM still hasn't paid back, and probably never will, the value of the "loan."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 07:03 PM (bxiXv)

182 AllenG, there is a La Quinta about a mile or so from the Anatole.  But can save $256 before taxes.  And there is no parking fee as opposed to Anatole's $17/day.  Bad news is hiking that distance in Dallas summer heat.  Need to check DART next. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 04, 2013 07:03 PM (h4Bce)

183

136 Posted by: ALH at March 04, 2013 10:51 PM (eqV3Q)

OMG, ALH, that sounds brutal. I do hope you have adult beverages to assuage your pain.Posted by: Peaches

I took two Aleve. The adult dosage. Does that count? It's a school night. And it was HORRIBLE. It doesn;t take that long to have your gums scraped!

Posted by: ALH at March 04, 2013 07:03 PM (eqV3Q)

184 Rumor is that EXXI is in line for a big buy that day.
Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at March 04, 2013 10:37 PM

I don't know what's worse, that you're a dicksucking leftist troll for your boyfriend Obama, or that you're trying to pump and dump a stock that Jim Cramer convinced you couldn't miss


Posted by: kbdabear at March 04, 2013 07:05 PM (mCvL4)

185 Yep; Richard Dawkins is a complete coward. At least the English guy who recently died (whose name escapes me right now) had the balls to go after Islam. There's another English guy who makes videos very critical of Islam ( Pat Somethng Condell? ) In addition, Dawkins yammers on about Yaweh but doesn't give all that much attention to Jesus (YOu know the guy Christians say is God in the flesh). I truly think Dawkins must have had a childhood of abuse and projects that onto God. That's too bad if that's the case but move on, buddy. You're what-In your 60's 70's? Oh, well; he's made a very good career attacking religions that won't go after him. As fas as Frum. He's opinions are disturbing. It's so easy to go after a dead man.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 07:06 PM (C+2eB)

186 Well folk, time for bed. Enjoy the thread and I'll see you tomorrow.

Posted by: joncelli at March 04, 2013 07:06 PM (7GMxY)

187 177 Good news for me. I was cleaning out the garage and found a box with my old Lee Anniversary reloading kit Posted by: Mætenloch at March 04, 2013 11:01 PM (pAlYe) Excellent! I'd get a digital scale if you haven't already. Changed my life, man.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 07:06 PM (bxiXv)

188 Yes, I recall GM used one government loan to pay off the original government buyout. See the link buried in my sock.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 04, 2013 07:06 PM (ORGYc)

Posted by: Eric Butkiewicz at March 04, 2013 07:06 PM (eHIJJ)

190 Rumor is that EXXI is in line for a big buy that day.

Alls I knows is that OfficeMax and Office Depot are merging. They'll probably both get renamed DepotMax.

Reminds me of the big Jay Leno did about companies merging to make new products. Supposedly Lay's Potato Chips and Easy-Off Oven Cleaner were going to merge to produce a new product called Easy Lay.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 07:06 PM (7B7jB)

191 I kind of wish they had opened the Rome series a couple of years before Caesar crossed the Rubicon. I think that street level common man view of the brawls between Clodius and Milo would have been kick ass.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 04, 2013 11:02 PM (tRHND)


--In terms of history, I think it pretty much *did* begin a couple years before the Rubicon.  Those Gallic Wars were not won in one summer.

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 07:07 PM (+iA5G)

192 Frum rhymes with scum. Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: haiku you at March 04, 2013 07:08 PM (A0wk8)

193 F r u m

can also be rearranged into

f u mr.

[/twilight zone theme music]

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 07:09 PM (7B7jB)

194 Hitchens, and Martin Amis, for a time was pretty good, on the subject, but he's retreated somewhat.

Posted by: archie goodwin at March 04, 2013 07:09 PM (Jsiw/)

195 But not so these days. Posted by: Mætenloch at March 04, 2013 11:01 PM (pAlYe) I still remember.223 at $2.99 a box, a friend has some marked $1.99 a box to smite people

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 07:09 PM (4Nkxq)

196 127 >> ALH  I've had good luck with expedia over the last 6 years.  No problems at all.  fyi
Depending on the CC used - it might be easier to go through your cc customer support?

Posted by: carolina at March 04, 2013 07:10 PM (wI9Ya)

197 Robert-It's good to hear that you're going to church. If that's the case even if you're a non believer it may be that God wants you there for some reason. God after all believes in you, IMO. And even if it's being done for some girl, you're still there. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 07:10 PM (C+2eB)

198

GM making money?

Well, the credit card analogy is good.

 

The Government crammed down the Senior Bond holders in the "bankruptcy" in 2009, forcing them to take a haircut, which accordingly was thought to be an illegal taking.  So there's point one.

They handed over a good part of the value of the corporation to the UAW for no apparent compensation, which is sometimes called "goodwill" in company buy-outs.  Ha=ha.

Then, the New GM got a lot of unsecured government loan money, to get their operations liquid again (with cash to pay creditors).  So if you look at the 25-30 billion the government "gave" GM beyond the purview of the "stock" the government bought at a falsely inflated price to pump more cash into the beast, then yes, GM is "making money".  On a smaller scale, the government gave Chrysler to FIAT to make it sort of "whole" again, because it would have been really brazen to do that twice.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 04, 2013 07:10 PM (Md8Uo)

199 Frum's not worth the attention. The only reason he's published is because he's a "conservative" willing to attack conservatives with every post. But for that angle, he'd be a nobody (more so than he already is). Also - note how many bombs he lobs at Andrew without citations - what a dick! "Andrew got missed more than he got right, etc." with no citations! Terrible writing.

Posted by: Brian Cobbs at March 04, 2013 07:10 PM (D8Yi3)

200

The Swedes have the most rapes in their country. An average of 5 per day, Those muslim men can't keep it zipped.

Posted by: ALH at March 04, 2013 07:10 PM (eqV3Q)

201 >>>194 Frum rhymes with scum. Coincidence? I think not.

Dumb, bum, cum, glum, numb...

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 04, 2013 07:10 PM (4Mv1T)

202 Sorry was drifting off and staring at the books....

uh David Frum is an asshole, that is all.

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 04, 2013 07:11 PM (LRFds)

203 I remember back when there were small rifle primers.  For sale.

Posted by: norwegian hispanic at March 04, 2013 07:11 PM (EhSF0)

204 Stopping by to say good night,  folks.

I will check in on the morning thread.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 04, 2013 07:11 PM (GoIUi)

205 I'd get a digital scale if you haven't already. Changed my life, man. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 04, 2013 11:06 PM (bxiXv) be sure to use check weights on it regularly.....

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 07:12 PM (4Nkxq)

206

Robert:

 

Good luck in your journey.  At the end of the day, look in the mirror and know that one day your flesh will rot away, and nothing shall remain.

 

Then guide yourself accordingly.  Speaking of someone who was raised in a strict Southern Baptist household, became a liberal and an atheist, and through God's grace and the ability to reason and think, is now a reformed, all caps using, swearing like a sailor, believer in Christ.

 

No matter how "smart" the secular crowd acts, no matter the insults, the jeering, the snideness, the laughter, we are all dead men.  I am no saint, but I'm working on it.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2013 07:12 PM (3Ws2O)

207 Extended Unemployment Benefits will be cut because of the sequestration.

Posted by: ALH at March 04, 2013 07:12 PM (eqV3Q)

208 I'd get a digital scale if you haven't already. Changed my life, man. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 04, 2013 11:06 PM (bxiXv) A GOOD digital scale. Don't go cheap on a digital, I found that out the hard way with one of the Franklin scales. Drifts like crazy, .5 to 1 grain at a time. Ugh. Totally useless. Went back to my cheapo Lee mechanical scale, until I can get something better.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 04, 2013 07:13 PM (MBqvE)

209 be sure to use check weights on it regularly..... Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 11:12 PM (4Nkxq) You could do that every time you power it up and still save time. Actually I do.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 07:13 PM (bxiXv)

210 Thanks, everyone who replied to my query about Gubmint Motors. I'm off to check the links and pwn him again. Prolly wont be back, so good night, lovelies. (But I might be back to report on the pwnage.)

Posted by: Kalneva at March 04, 2013 07:13 PM (S+/pH)

211 ethnicity or gender was ( or is, or should be) considered. Is this an error? Were my teachers wrong?

Posted by: irongrampa at March 04, 2013 10:56 PM (SAMxH)

 

They need that info for the racially gerrymandered districts.

Posted by: Ook? at March 04, 2013 07:13 PM (OQpzc)

212 By the way, I got a laugh at the ergmcmuffin thread earlier today.  It`s great when a troll is so stupid it gets a dedicated thread.

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 07:13 PM (+iA5G)

213 I'm waiting for the demand to ebb before I get any more ordinance. It's inevitable.

I just ordered my new bow. No price inflation there.

Posted by: esch at March 04, 2013 07:13 PM (9XVgh)

214 So sven.. um.... what do you do...exactly?

Posted by: CAC at March 04, 2013 07:14 PM (HQgFB)

215 EC, L,elle "end of Page" see if this free app works for you http://tinyurl.com/dy76p3g still figuring it out myself

Posted by: mccool at March 04, 2013 07:14 PM (MG9++)

216 156 >>  GM has not repaid us.  Stock sales were priced too low to recoup the loan amounts (by a significant amount)  Google GM bailout, and I'm sure you will get the detail facts you need.

Posted by: carolina at March 04, 2013 07:14 PM (wGY3d)

217 Hitchens. That's the name I forgot; Thanks. Darn; My memory isn't worth a darn!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 07:14 PM (C+2eB)

218 Just finished a hamster stake out. My son left the cage door open saterday night and hamster fled scene. My partner, the cat, and I staked out a corner of the kitchen. When she got interested in one area of cabinets I pinned her up and started looking. Hamster is now safe in cage, and cat is now taking a "Frum" in the litter box.

Posted by: Picric at March 04, 2013 07:16 PM (FYX36)

219 A GOOD digital scale. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 04, 2013 11:13 PM (MBqvE) There are a few around or even under $100, *good* ones, but the price goes up to the stratosphere from there. Digital scales do wear out, so be wary of used ones. Jennings makes a few jewelry scales around $100 that are quite good for the price, check reviews.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 07:17 PM (bxiXv)

220 170 What's all this I hear that since they can't pass a budget that we're going to have a squid castration? Am I missing something here?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 04, 2013 11:00 PM (JZA60)



*Crosses legs*

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 07:18 PM (kaalw)

221 Posted by: The Political Hat at March 04, 2013 10:28 PM (Vk2pI) I keep hearing this shit about how hard it's going to be to catch up re technology. Why? What the fuck is so hard about this shit? We're talking about websites, apps, and social media here. We're not talking about replicating OSX from scratch. The fact that Project Orca was a fail whale is more an indication of the corruption of the GOP-e consultant class that doesn't give a fuck about anything but making an easy buck.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at March 04, 2013 07:18 PM (Ue8+L)

222 A cop car got broken in to today in SF. Stolen was an AR-15, property of SFPD. Chronicle headline says "Semi-automatic rifle stolen".  Not "assault weapon".
These headline writers think they are smart as hell.

Posted by: navybrat at March 04, 2013 07:19 PM (tKe3q)

223 19 peaches, Thanks good to know you got her locked down when I'm gone. Hubet Glockenlooper you Labial drip from Helen Thomas' lap jungle go fuck yourself. Global warming you guys, peak oil you guus, shave the whales you guys..... Hey fucktard we know the game is stifle the boom 'til you can graft or steal it. GFACS

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2013 07:21 PM (LRFds)

224 Any pissin' matches going on tonight?

Posted by: RWC at March 04, 2013 07:21 PM (sqp6o)

225 more an indication of the corruption of the GOP-e consultant class that doesn't give a fuck about anything but making an easy buck. Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at March 04, 2013 11:18 PM (Ue8+L) That's one reason it's going to be so hard to catch up. Another being the extensive social networking and bullying over the last 15 years that has turned the IT community from majority libertarian to majority liberal, just like the rest of the Long March.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 07:22 PM (bxiXv)

226 226 Any pissin' matches going on tonight? Posted by: RWC at March 04, 2013 11:21 PM (sqp6o) Wait.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 07:22 PM (bxiXv)

227 220- Excellent crime scene report. We used to have two chipmunks many moons ago, who would literally chew through the sheet aluminum top to their glass enclosure when we'd leave town and run amuck.

Only way to catch them was put on gloves and chase them onto the linoleum in the kitchen or bathroom and grab em. Had to squeeze tight otherwise they'd squirt out of your hands, like, um.... Anyway, they'd spin out on the linoleum. 

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 04, 2013 07:23 PM (4Mv1T)

228

Alright morans, have a good night.  going to watch some Trailer Park Boys reruns.  Yes.  They are that fucking good.

 

PEACE.

 

Oh, and lest i forget:

 

Marco Rubio-Tom Cotton 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Say it bitches.  Tom Cotton!  Nite.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2013 07:23 PM (3Ws2O)

229 Mr. Frum is not an attractive man. That's all I've got.

Posted by: Tuna at March 04, 2013 07:23 PM (M/TDA)

230 I keep hearing this shit about how hard it's going to be to catch up re technology. Why? What the fuck is so hard about this shit? We're talking about websites, apps, and social media here. We're not talking about replicating OSX from scratch. The fact that Project Orca was a fail whale is more an indication of the corruption of the GOP-e consultant class that doesn't give a fuck about anything but making an easy buck. Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at March 04, 2013 11:18 PM (Ue8+L) It's not just code. ORCA proved just that. It is about what type of information you can gather from what sources. It is about implementing the software in a way that allows you to use your base as a true force-multiplier. It's about working with non-political websites and organization without formally coordinating. It is a Stand Alone Complex that can be taken advantage of.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 04, 2013 07:25 PM (Vk2pI)

231 Mr. Frum is not an attractive man. That's all I've got. Posted by: Tuna at March 04, 2013 11:23 PM (M/TDA) Even I have standards...

Posted by: Folsom Street Fair Hedonist at March 04, 2013 07:26 PM (Vk2pI)

232 232 I keep hearing this shit about how hard it's going to be to catch up re technology. Why? What the fuck is so hard about this shit? We're talking about websites, apps, and social media here. We're not talking about replicating OSX from scratch. The fact that Project Orca was a fail whale is more an indication of the corruption of the GOP-e consultant class that doesn't give a fuck about anything but making an easy buck.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at March 04, 2013 11:18 PM (Ue8+L)


It's not just code. ORCA proved just that.

It is about what type of information you can gather from what sources. It is about implementing the software in a way that allows you to use your base as a true force-multiplier. It's about working with non-political websites and organization without formally coordinating.

It is a Stand Alone Complex that can be taken advantage of.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 04, 2013 11:25 PM (Vk2pI)



Don't forget it's also about Google collecting private information and funneling it to Democrat political operatives.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 07:26 PM (kaalw)

233 >>>>--In terms of history, I think it pretty much *did* begin a couple years before the Rubicon. Those Gallic Wars were not won in one summer.<<<

True. I assumed the battle they opened up with was supposed to be the last campaign that resulted in Vercingetorix' capture. That would have been in the same year that Milo stood trial. They way they did it in the series they skipped a bit and went straight to the crisis with Pompey two years later. Clodius was killed in January of 52bc so the street fighting between him and Milo would have been 54-53bc.


Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 04, 2013 07:26 PM (tRHND)

234 Watching the rerun of O'Reilys show and he his talking with someone from Connecticut Snowstorm in the background. Woo hoo. That's supposed to be here tomorrow.

Posted by: RWC at March 04, 2013 07:27 PM (sqp6o)

235 so, anyone know anything about the refinery cms?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 04, 2013 07:28 PM (Z9EHQ)

236 Got fond of white rats as a psych major had pets later on. Would get out and chew everything cord -like. Went to make a call and phone cord chewed. Last straw chewed almost though toe sandle strap and when I went down stairs it snapped. Bastard was to kill me.

Posted by: Guido at March 04, 2013 07:29 PM (A0wk8)

237 Robert- Since you're not going to impress anyone, it seems. God really must want you there. :^) What made you decide to go to church again?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 07:29 PM (C+2eB)

238

.......Jennings makes a few jewelry scales around $100 that are quite good for the price, check reviews.....

I'm using the jennings VG20, about $80.  Accurate to .05 grains, very pleased with it.  My fat fingers and the RCBS beam scale have issues, although it is perfectly functional.

Posted by: norwegian hispanic at March 04, 2013 07:31 PM (EhSF0)

239 216 CAC, Delivery work, and delivery work. One which used to be my main gig is dying off delivering things between a set of offices, and my side job delivering pizza on the weekends is morphing into my main gig. I used the side job's money to pay for my donations last cycle and my main to buy wife's car.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2013 07:33 PM (LRFds)

240 Don't forget it's also about Google collecting private information and funneling it to Democrat political operatives. Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 11:26 PM (kaalw) And they're not the only one, though they're a big one.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 07:33 PM (bxiXv)

241 My gerbil bit me on the thumb when I was 12.  Felt like stepping on a freakin' thumbtack.  Oh, and that effing metal exercise wheel? Critter would run on that damn thing day and effing night. Why on earth did my mother allow me to buy those rodents??

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 04, 2013 07:33 PM (4Mv1T)

242 The main reason we are screwed is because the average voter has monkey shit where his or her brains used to be.

Now, go find a solution for that one.

Posted by: navybrat at March 04, 2013 07:35 PM (tKe3q)

243 So how much did Richard Gere pay you for him, Tobacco Road?

[/rimshot]

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 07:35 PM (7B7jB)

244 Jar-Jar Judd. Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch at the Ides of/ at March 04, 2013 10:52 PM (Md8Uo) Mee-sah puffy

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 04, 2013 07:37 PM (Y5I9o)

245 Is the whole post the overnight open THREAT or just one of the items?  Frum and global warming aren't very threatening.  So is mugshot guy coming to get us or something?

Posted by: cinyc at March 04, 2013 07:38 PM (mgwL5)

246 242 mero, Yup, I suspect we're gonna need to start making examples of donk fucking businesses when we get the ball back. Google's gonna need Microsofted.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2013 07:38 PM (LRFds)

247 Now, go find a solution for that one. Posted by: navybrat at March 04, 2013 11:35 PM (tKe3q) MFM delenda est. Teachers unions delenda est. Government schooling delenda est. Yeah, that's a shitload of work for people who want to be left alone and don't like being in groups to do. Basically they're at war with us, and we're feeling pretty put-upon and thinking maybe someday we'll do something about that. Yay.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 07:39 PM (bxiXv)

248 Meghan McCain has been ghostwriting for David Frum ever since he broke both arms trying to open a can of Jif.

Posted by: moogrogue at March 04, 2013 07:40 PM (u2kF3)

249 16 I'd oppress Katy Perry's brains out.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 04, 2013 10:32 PM (3D74W)



While I would have agreed with you 3-4 years ago, no, not so much. Don't forget, Russell Brand nutted in that, kind of takes away from it now.


I think these starlets need to get tattoos of all the guys that have nutted in them over their scampers, that way you can see who went their before you did. And in the case of Madonna, they could just finish the list on her back, where I'm sure a lot of people finished.

Posted by: AshleyJudd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at March 04, 2013 07:41 PM (Zd/NW)

250

on the one year anniversary

 

Make that "first anniversary."

 

"Anniversary" implies "year." /pedant reacting to pet peeve

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 04, 2013 07:41 PM (IDSI7)

251 Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 04, 2013 11:33 PM (4Mv1T) LOL. We had a rabbit several years ago. We kept it inside. Cute little thing-all black. It used to sit in my lap. I never knew rabbits had such personalities It was trained to use a litterbox (Mostly), but being new rabbit owners we didn't rabbit proof enough and it chewed it's way to an early death but eating everything t shouldn't. If we ever get another one-which might bot be a good idea as we now have two cats-it will have to live in a cage inside.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 07:41 PM (C+2eB)

252 Portuguese?  As in Portugal?  As in fuckin Europe?

Let me know when Bohemians are eligible for special privileges.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 04, 2013 07:41 PM (p/cQy)

253 Frum: you don't have to be a psychopath to be a conservative

It does help to be a sociopath to be David Frum, though.

If I were Frum, and thank G-d I'm not, every mirror in my house would be cracked and stained with the blood of my own fists.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 07:42 PM (QTHTd)

254 What the hell does Butters Frum know about the 60s in America? Was tbe NBPP a big issue in Ontario when he was a lad?

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2013 07:42 PM (LRFds)

255 My fat fingers and the RCBS beam scale have issues, although it is perfectly functional.
I too am perfectly functional. Sit on my face and I will tell you your weight, Counsellor Troi.

Posted by: mister data at March 04, 2013 07:42 PM (ORGYc)

256 Russell Brand looks like someone who if he had lived 40 years ago-would have fit in well in the Manson family

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 07:44 PM (C+2eB)

257 Frum is in our house? Do we need to call an exterminator?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 04, 2013 07:44 PM (KKFr2)

258 255 guy mohawk, I'm on it! //F Mercury and Assoc.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2013 07:46 PM (LRFds)

259 Now, go find a solution for that one. Posted by: navybrat at March 04, 2013 11:35 PM (tKe3q) Shhhh. '16 and Pregnant' is on. Total flip side, have ya'll been watching 'The Bible?". Action packed. And i'm learning. Oops.

Posted by: RWC at March 04, 2013 07:46 PM (sqp6o)

260 After we got married our first pet was a gray and white male hamster. What a nasty little bastard he was. Used to bare his teeth at us when we took him out of the cage to clean it. I'd always remembered the sweet little female hamster I had when I was a girl. This little guy was a devil hamster. Smart thing too. Regularly went on the lam. Always found him in the same spot under the furnace. My husband and I drew straws as to who was going to reach in and get their hand bitten. He lived a full hamster life, nasty til the end.

Posted by: Tuna at March 04, 2013 07:46 PM (M/TDA)

261 Brand actually looks like a younger brother of Manson. If I had been Katy Perry I wouldn't have gotten within ten yards of that guy. Creepy vibes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 07:47 PM (C+2eB)

262 264 Brand actually looks like a younger brother of Manson. If I had been Katy Perry I wouldn't have gotten within ten yards of that guy. Creepy vibes. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 11:47 PM (C+2eB) Yeah,m that seems to be a big bonus for a lot of women. Also the fame and money.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 07:49 PM (bxiXv)

263 Katy Perry/Russell Brand

But hey, it wouldn't be the first inexplicable match. Anybody remember back when Julia Roberts (ugh, horseface) was with Lyle Lovett? So many guys I knew were going 'WTF!!!1!' over that one for months...

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 07:49 PM (7B7jB)

264 Tuna- That was funny as hell. Do it again!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 04, 2013 07:49 PM (4Mv1T)

265 Live from GameStop: 10 minutes away from getting my copy of the re-boot of Tomb Raider for mrs. North

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at March 04, 2013 07:51 PM (SrMFW)

266 Lyle Lovett is a plan man-but IMO, he didn't look he could be a serial killer. Ordinarily I don't have such a visceral unpleasant reaction to people's looks. I do with Brand.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 07:52 PM (C+2eB)

267 As for Dawkins: we see that he does believe in an afterlife; he will do anything, say anything not to leave this life.

An interesting contrast with his fellow "new atheist", Chris Hitchens, as always . . .

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 07:52 PM (QTHTd)

268 I think I'm gonna crash soon. Anyway CAC, I put in for an extended leave last fall from main gig to work the campaign and figured out I was so addled this cycle I should just donate. When I was ready to go back in Dec found out Wife's travel schedule and PCS prep goosed my availability so now I'm on call. No idea what I'll do in South Carolina. Maybe go back to finish my EMT requal though I've never gone pro w/it, or lay the groundwork to get licensed and bonded as a skip tracer.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2013 07:52 PM (LRFds)

269 "Stars and Stripes Forever" is a great march, but it's no tribal facial tattoo.

Posted by: Iron Mike Tyson at March 04, 2013 07:52 PM (I88Jc)

270 266 Katy Perry/Russell Brand

But hey, it wouldn't be the first inexplicable match. Anybody remember back when Julia Roberts (ugh, horseface) was with Lyle Lovett? So many guys I knew were going 'WTF!!!1!' over that one for months...

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 11:49 PM (7B7jB)


Yeah, what the hell was Lovett thinking marrying that. She makes Anne Hathaway's teeth look normal in comparison.

Posted by: AshleyJudd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at March 04, 2013 07:53 PM (Zd/NW)

271 268 TruNorth, Happy hunting.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2013 07:53 PM (LRFds)

272 I would love to get David Frum Tied up naked in my basement...after eating 5 meals of spicy mexican in rapid succession and do a 2guys0Cups video. Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright's Sock Puppet at March 04, 2013 11:40 PM (+OTLF) Go on...

Posted by: Average German with Average German Sexual Tendincies at March 04, 2013 07:53 PM (Vk2pI)

273

Ya know, Lyle Lovett is plenty homely, but actually a pretty nice guy.

 

Julia Roberts WAS thought to be pretty adorable, but she actually is pretty shrewish and nasty.  Julia Roberts the person is not the personality that is in the movies.

 

Who dumped who?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at March 04, 2013 07:54 PM (Md8Uo)

274 Lyle Lovett is a plan man-but IMO, he didn't look he could be a serial killer.

Maybe not, but did Ted Bundy look like he was a serial killer??

I've read he was good looking enough that he never had to search long for women to kill/rape. (Bundy was into necrophilia big-time.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 07:54 PM (7B7jB)

275 I truly think Dawkins must have had a childhood of abuse and projects that onto God. people who won't stand up to him

FIFY.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 07:54 PM (QTHTd)

276 http:// minx.cc/ ? post = 327127

Posted by: Amy Shulkusky at March 04, 2013 07:55 PM (bdged)

277 Zombie rodent memories from a Moron childhood.

"Reaching Into the Cage: A Story of Fear, and little pellets."

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 04, 2013 07:55 PM (4Mv1T)

278 Thanks Sven but I don't care. It looks good but what it really does is buy me some time to myself lol

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at March 04, 2013 07:57 PM (SrMFW)

279

Frum, in the basement, under the furnace.

 

The cornered Canadian hamster.

 

I think that summarizes the thoughts of many here. 

 

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at March 04, 2013 07:57 PM (Md8Uo)

280 Probably right re Lovett being a nice guy. I've heard he's very approachable.

One of my great fears is of finally getting to meet someone like Mila Kunis, approaching her, and finding out the hard way she's cold and dismissive.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 07:58 PM (7B7jB)

281 The only game I want right now, I have

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at March 04, 2013 07:58 PM (SrMFW)

282 Frum, in the basement, under the furnace.

The cornered Canadian hamster.

I think that summarizes the thoughts of many here.


Time to crank up the heat!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 04, 2013 07:58 PM (xKC/c)

283 I'm looking forward to Tom Hanks becoming a prominent republican once we pass amnesty!

Posted by: Boone at March 04, 2013 07:58 PM (tIyK2)

284 No doubt Ted Bundy was able to get women because he looked good and Russell Brand may be pratically an Eagle Scout Jeffery Dahmer looked o.k. too . I can't explain why I find Brand so creepy and I apologize f after all he's a really nice guy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 07:58 PM (C+2eB)

285 And David Frum is a horrible, horrible human being.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at March 04, 2013 07:58 PM (SrMFW)

286

Time to yourself?

 

That is beginning to sound like.......TMI!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at March 04, 2013 07:59 PM (Md8Uo)

287 My biggest heartbreak/WTF was Shania and Mutt Lange.

Posted by: RWC at March 04, 2013 07:59 PM (sqp6o)

288 281 TruNorth, Anything that makes spouse happy eventually may make you happy. I don't think anything went the way I planned this assignment of spouse's....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2013 07:59 PM (LRFds)

289 On the other hand, Frum is not shy about telling us who his real enemies are.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at March 04, 2013 07:59 PM (SrMFW)

290 I've heard Brand is approachable, but he's such a crazy wildman on stage (a la Sam Kinison, who I've read was also wonderful to meet) that a lot of folks are afraid of him.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 08:00 PM (7B7jB)

291 Isn't Mila Kunis the one who went to the dance with someone in the armed forces? I think she supposedly had a nice personality

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:00 PM (C+2eB)

292 Frum, in the basement, under the furnace. The cornered Canadian hamster. I think that summarizes the thoughts of many here. Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at March 04, 2013 11:57 PM (Md8Uo) Poor hamster...

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 04, 2013 08:00 PM (Vk2pI)

293 Portugal and Catalonia have in common that they were both taken over by Spain pretty soon after the reconquista.

I'm told that Catalan isn't much like Spanish; it's more like Provencal (or some Italian dialects). I've been to Portugal; that language struck me as archaic Spanish in some places, misspelled Spanish in others.

Portugal was on the far side of Gibraltar, so they had ways to survive off the peninsula. Catalonia was stuck there.

So Catalonia (and the Basques, woo boy, don't get me started on them) got screwed by geography.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 08:00 PM (QTHTd)

294 Haha... Time to myself = sleeping, PAC stuff and Star Wars MMO. Not necessarily in that order.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at March 04, 2013 08:00 PM (SrMFW)

295 Portugal was on the far side of Gibraltar, so they had ways to survive off the peninsula. Catalonia was stuck there.

I mean: Portugal could survive off its colonies. If Catalonia wanted colonies it would have had to get them off Algeria or Morocco (or Italy). Good luck with that.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 08:01 PM (QTHTd)

296 One of the problems with Russell Brand is his appearance. He always looks like he hasn't bathed in months. The other is he's not funny.

Posted by: Tuna at March 04, 2013 08:01 PM (M/TDA)

297

I'm not a woman (checking.....yup!), and I find Russel Brand creepy and unlikable.

 

If he were hitchhiking, would you:

1) give him a ride

2) car -door him at 50 mph

3) pick him up and then stab him to death and bury him in an unmarked grave

4) throw a bottle of motor oil at him at 50 mph and yell "eat lead you commie gook!"

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at March 04, 2013 08:02 PM (Md8Uo)

298 By coincidence, qdpsteve, just this evening I watched the Married With Children "It's a Bundyful Life" episode that featured Sam Kinison as Al's guardian angel.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 04, 2013 08:03 PM (ORGYc)

299 Perhaps we should send Matenloch after Dawkins. My sister who is a scientist and as close to being an atheist as one can be while still being an Agnostic lives in England . Even she rolls her eyes at Dawkins.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:03 PM (C+2eB)

300 And here is your periodic reminder that all internet browsers suck ass.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 08:03 PM (bxiXv)

301 I'm sure i'm getting the Fox versions, but SCOAMF is sweating this Sequester. Can't wait until the breakdown happens.

Posted by: RWC at March 04, 2013 08:04 PM (sqp6o)

302 292 TruNorth, Yup that would be uh "us." What a shock...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2013 08:05 PM (LRFds)

303 I don't pick up anyone hitchhiking unless I know them. Sometimes I think, "Well, they look okay" but I don't think it's ever a good idea if you're alone and particularly if you're a woman.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:05 PM (C+2eB)

304 btw, because I gotta, Moldbug called bullshit on Dawkins here: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/ 2007/09/how-dawkins-got-pwned-part-1.html

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 08:06 PM (QTHTd)

305 The gerbil looks at the hamster, "Better you than me.  Coming Mr. Gere!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 04, 2013 08:06 PM (h4Bce)

306 Ok, nighto...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 04, 2013 08:07 PM (LRFds)

307 Posted by: RWC at March 05, 2013 12:04 AM (sqp6o) That sequester dough must be running the whole govt....what are they doing w/the rest of the money?

Posted by: BignJames at March 04, 2013 08:07 PM (j7iSn)

308 That sequester dough must be running the whole govt....what are they doing w/the rest of the money?

Pokemon cards.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 04, 2013 08:09 PM (xKC/c)

309 Andy, yep. Kinison was fantastic.

He left us way to soon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 08:09 PM (7B7jB)

310 Pokemon?  Try Yu-gi-oh.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 04, 2013 08:10 PM (h4Bce)

311 Hi all! David Frumpy is an ass.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at March 04, 2013 08:10 PM (DGIjM)

312 I want Obama to sweat bullets. I want him to shake in his boots. God help me, I can't even bear to look at the man. I pray for him everyday-several times a day but it really is a case of praying for an enemy-because I really think he's the enemy of every reasonable American.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:11 PM (C+2eB)

313

That sequester dough must be running the whole govt....what are they doing w/the rest of the money?

Pokemon cards.

 

Beanie Babies. They're gonna make a come-back!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 04, 2013 08:12 PM (IDSI7)

314 Pokemon? Try Yu-gi-oh.

As long as it's pointless and childish.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 04, 2013 08:13 PM (xKC/c)

315 Fenelon: I still remember that about Mila Kunis. It certainly proves she can be a very kind, thoughtful and patriotic person, at least sometimes.

I would hope that was the "real" Mila. Unfortunately too many actors/actresses are too good at acting nice in real life too. I think that's the vibe too many folks get from actresses like Anne Hathaway, who was born with a freakin' platinum spoon in her mouth. Even if she is a really nice and approachable person, Hathaway just comes off to me like someone with no understanding of what working people are really like.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 08:13 PM (7B7jB)

316 And I got the creepy vibe from Obama while he was running against Hilllary-whom Ii didn't support. I think he's a malignant narcissist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:13 PM (C+2eB)

317 I was just reading an article how democrats are planning to turn Texas and Georgia blue.. like they did Colorado. and it has a real shot at working.. all the blue staters moving to Texas isnt a good thing.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at March 04, 2013 08:14 PM (DGIjM)

318 Portugal was on the far side of Gibraltar, so they had ways to survive off the peninsula. Catalonia was stuck there. I mean: Portugal could survive off its colonies. If Catalonia wanted colonies it would have had to get them off Algeria or Morocco (or Italy). Good luck with that. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 05, 2013 12:01 AM (QTHTd) There is a bigger difference. The county of Catalonia was acquired very early on by the crown of Aragon nearly a millennium ago. It was Castile and Aragon that formed Spain. Portugal secured it's independence early on and with one exception due to a certain King who just disappeared in Morocco, Portugal was and remained separate. It's colonies were administered separately from those of Spain, with only Ceuta actually transferring from the former to the later. Also Gallicia in Spain speaks Gallianian, which is almsot identical to Portuguese, and the last remnands of Celto-Iberian culture, and the Medieval Suevic Kingdom...

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 04, 2013 08:14 PM (Vk2pI)

319 Finally watched the first segment of The Bible. Have to say they seemed to be rushing through the first few books, they didn't even cover Jacob or Joseph. They went straight from Abraham and Isaac to Moses. It's good to see actors that can actually act. The effects were pretty good, it's visually really well done for a TV series. I'm pissed I thought I had recorded Vikings and for some reason it went down my DVR's memory hole. Hopefully the first episode will be on again sometime this week.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 04, 2013 08:15 PM (NzBQO)

320

Thanks, again, for the resources for the GM thing. I totally knew about GM's fucking the bondholders, because that was the first time, after election night '08, that I cried out loud, knowing that the rule of law was going out the window, so what else is he going to do? Well now I know. And it's totally the whole frog in the pot, isn't it? FUCK!

Posted by: kalneva at March 04, 2013 08:15 PM (S+/pH)

321 Pokemon? Try Yu-gi-oh. As long as it's pointless and childish. Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 05, 2013 12:13 AM (xKC/c) Heh... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot1fRB_sdYk

Posted by: 政治的な帽子~です at March 04, 2013 08:16 PM (Vk2pI)

322 Pointless card games...  Uno?  Or perhaps Cards Against Humanity?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 04, 2013 08:16 PM (h4Bce)

323 I'm a real person with a cookie in my purse. Sometimes you have to meet with the poor third world people of Kentucky, that's where you find your pig.

One of them sent eye kisses to me. It was rape.

Posted by: Ashley Judd at March 04, 2013 08:16 PM (mCvL4)

324 Speaking of card games, can't wait 'til online gaming (esp hold'em poker) is finally legalized here in the U.S. Last I heard, Christie (yeah I know boo hiss) has actually been working on that; supposedly NJ law is being moved around to allow it there, at least.

Of course it'll still probably be a long long time...

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 08:18 PM (7B7jB)

325 312 Andy, yep. Kinison was fantastic.

He left us way to soon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 05, 2013 12:09 AM (7B7jB)


--



Ever heard the story about the preacher-turned-comedian Sam Kinison's last gig on the road?
http://tinyurl.com/bd8f4tn

Posted by: Craig Poe at March 04, 2013 08:18 PM (BVkEs)

326 Anyone else hear fuckin' Gavin Newsom on ACarolla today? What a fucker. Libtard poli  101.

Posted by: kalneva at March 04, 2013 08:18 PM (S+/pH)

327 @JoseCanseco Dennis rodman if you need my help with anything let me know your on the right path

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at March 04, 2013 08:18 PM (DGIjM)

328 Hey TPH, should I reserve room for A-kon?  If I buy at this price can't cancel.  $88/night vs $185/night at con hotel.  Plus free parking.  Downside - 1.3 miles from con.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 04, 2013 08:19 PM (h4Bce)

329 There's often not a lot of "there" there with actors and I know a lot of them. Used to be one, but I found it too self absorbed a thing to stay with. Also, for the people who do it as a hobby-it's like an addiction. They don't feel good unless they get the performance high. I still love theatre and direct it and watch it and sometimes teach it, but I don't have many friends left who still do it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:20 PM (C+2eB)

330 Might as well post this again.

http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3308434/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 04, 2013 08:22 PM (h4Bce)

331 Fenelon: that's what's been written for so many years about Peter Sellers.

The great legend is that once upon a time, someone said to Sellers at a party, "I've seen so much of you in your great roles, yet after all these years I don't know anything about you. What are YOU like, Peter? What's your personality?"

And Sellers replied, "My personality? I don't have one."

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 08:23 PM (7B7jB)

332 Hey TPH, should I reserve room for A-kon? If I buy at this price can't cancel. $88/night vs $185/night at con hotel. Plus free parking. Downside - 1.3 miles from con. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 12:19 AM (h4Bce) Depends. How is the whether like, and does the con run buses to your hotel? Even if you have to drive, I doubt parking at the con is not more than $97, so it'd probably be a good deal, unless there is a reason to be at the con-hotel, such as complex cosplay outfit.

Posted by: 政治的な帽子~です at March 04, 2013 08:23 PM (Vk2pI)

333 Might as well post this again. http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3308434/ Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 12:22 AM (h4Bce) May the Force be with You!

Posted by: Barack Obama, Fake Geek at March 04, 2013 08:24 PM (Vk2pI)

334 http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3308434/

I sense a great disturbance... in my pants.

[/internet classics]

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 08:25 PM (7B7jB)

335 What the MSM reviews will never tell you is that Dawkins relies on some explicitly anti-semitic sources for certain chapters of The God Delusion. Hitchens and Condell are anti-theists. Dawkins is more specifically anti-Judaic. He is also anti-Zionist. *wink, wink* But hey, as long as he is by extension anti-Christian, our 'enlightened" elite don't mind.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 04, 2013 08:26 PM (C8mVl)

336 And I think Sellers was a unhappy man. He was very talented, but still unhappy and troubled.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:26 PM (C+2eB)

337 Parking is $17/day at a minimum.

Don't plan on cosplay so no bits to go astray or mundanes to scare with things like a Seburo C-1 Exploder.  Or a sword.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 04, 2013 08:26 PM (h4Bce)

338 320 I was just reading an article how democrats are planning to turn Texas and Georgia blue.. like they did Colorado.
and it has a real shot at working.. all the blue staters moving to Texas isnt a good thing.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at March 05, 2013 12:14 AM (DGIjM)


--Not to mention that amnesty thing you may have heard about.

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 08:26 PM (+iA5G)

339 And it's totally the whole frog in the pot, isn't it? FUCK! Posted by: kalneva at March 05, 2013 12:15 AM (S+/pH) We're wondering if we're being cooked, and they've got the sauce on have have parsley on the plates. Remember, they called us an enemy first. They sit around and ta;k about how to get rid of the "negative rights" in the Constitution, they defy court orders and habitually violate the law, they treat us with contempt, lie to us, and openly plot against us because their captive MFM will cover for them... Which, of course, is all crazy talk and *we're* the bad guys who say mean things. Yeah, we got a steep hill to climb before we can die on it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 08:26 PM (bxiXv)

340

Thanks, again, for the resources for the GM thing. I totally knew about GM's fucking the bondholders, because that was the first time, after election night '08, that I cried out loud, knowing that the rule of law was going out the window, so what else is he going to do?

 

Cheer up. The bondholders who got fucked the worst were ... the Michigan State Teachers' Union pension fund.

 

It is to laugh.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 04, 2013 08:26 PM (IDSI7)

341 Lyle Lovett is a plan man-but IMO, he didn't look he could be a serial killer. Ordinarily I don't have such a visceral unpleasant reaction to people's looks. I do with Brand.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 11:52 PM (C+2eB)


And Lyle Lovett is a Texan, and a damn fine musician, which makes up for his less-than-movie-star good looks.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 04, 2013 08:27 PM (673KB)

342 This is what I was thinking about for Portugal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Portuguese_Restoration_War

If I am reading this right . . .

It seems that when Philip II/III ruled Portugal, at first they invited the Portuguese to the Spanish court. The Portuguese nobles, like nobles everywhere, mostly didn't care if they went to the palace balls in one city or the other, as long as they kept their autonomy. What chafed their hides was when Philip III/IV got greedy and tried to replace the nobles with Spaniards.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 08:27 PM (QTHTd)

343 Finally watched the first segment of The Bible. Have to say they seemed to be rushing through the first few books, Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 05, 2013 12:15 AM (NzBQO) They are doing the whole Bible in 10 hours of TV, so they decided to edit is down some..........

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 08:28 PM (4Nkxq)

344 http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3308434/ I sense a great disturbance... in my pants. [/internet classics] Posted by: qdpsteve at March 05, 2013 12:25 AM (7B7jB) Why am I reminded of this -- WARNING NSFW: http://tinyurl.com/au9u2wm

Posted by: Barack Obama, Fake Geek at March 04, 2013 08:28 PM (Vk2pI)

345 Hah, and it looks like the Catalans revolted at the same time the Portu-geese did

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 08:28 PM (QTHTd)

346 /off SCoaMF sock

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 04, 2013 08:29 PM (Vk2pI)

347 But hey, as long as he is by extension anti-Christian, our 'enlightened" elite don't mind. BINGO. I think since Pat Condell and Hitchens were./are braver than Dawkins is I have more respect for them. Dawkins never seemed to me that he even tries to understand what real Jews or Christians believe or the diversity within the traditions.. He's an atheist biblical literalist

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:30 PM (C+2eB)

348 Darts, second greatest indoor sport. We kicked ass tonight.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 04, 2013 08:31 PM (6IKyK)

349 When you think about how fantastically successful the Jewish lobby has been, though, in fact, they are less numerous I am told - religious Jews anyway - than atheists and [yet they] more or less monopolise American foreign policy as far as many people can see. So if atheists could achieve a small fraction of that influence, the world would be a better place
--Richard Dawkins, 2007

Oh, my.
--Hikaru Sulu, 2265

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 08:33 PM (QTHTd)

350 Oh that explains it, I originally thought it was ten two hour series. Just ten hours makes sense. I thought 20 hours of tv they were gonna start breaking out Leviticus to read Biblical law.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 04, 2013 08:33 PM (NzBQO)

351 Remember that miniseries on PBS in the 1980s, "Vietnam: The Ten Thousand Day War"?

Man, that thing went on for almost as long as the war itself...

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 04, 2013 08:34 PM (7B7jB)

352 Yep, nasty man-Dawkins.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:34 PM (C+2eB)

353 Dawkins is a Coward *and* a supremacist. Pretty fucked-up combination, if you ask me.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 08:36 PM (bxiXv)

354 I am much more interested in people's talents than their looks. Lyle's music is not my style, but I know that he is quite talented and lots of people like his stuff.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:36 PM (C+2eB)

355 Well this costume should blow a lot people out of the water.  Inspired by artwork for Guild Wars 2.

http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3226658/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 04, 2013 08:37 PM (h4Bce)

356 Maybe the world would be a better place with atheists in charge.

- But not while people like Dawkins are heading up the atheist movement. Certain events in Russia during the last century proved that.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 08:38 PM (QTHTd)

357 I'm sure Dawkins just thinks Russia was just a weird anomoly. If only the "correct" atheists were in charge it would all be utopia.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:40 PM (C+2eB)

358

So, should I book a hotel room for the Denver Tango Festival in May, or risk waiting until April?  Choices, choices...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 04, 2013 08:41 PM (3D74W)

359 I'm sure Dawkins just thinks Russia was just a weird anomoly. If only the "correct" atheists were in charge it would all be utopia. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 05, 2013 12:40 AM (C+2eB) Tell us about it!

Posted by: Mensheviks at March 04, 2013 08:41 PM (Vk2pI)

360 360 I'm sure Dawkins just thinks Russia was just a weird anomoly. If only the "correct" atheists were in charge it would all be utopia. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 05, 2013 12:40 AM (C+2eB) Yeah, you know, China. Or Cuba. Or maybe he'll just talk a good game and then fold the first time a Muslim demands he convert.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 08:43 PM (bxiXv)

361 I mean, after all, I think Islam has a rule about atheists. What was it again?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 08:45 PM (bxiXv)

362 "Correct" meaning himself and those who think exactly like he does. He's a mirror image of radical theists. I've met people like him. I don't know if he's said this but I've met atheists who have-The world will be much better off if all Christians could be kept in camps-so as not to "infect" the rest of society. Bill Ayers-whom I guessing is an Atheist-wants to put people in his indoctrination camps so we can have a perfect society with Government as "god". These people are dangerous. Thank God not all atheists are like that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:45 PM (C+2eB)

363 Atheists, deniers of the Faith.  Execution is the only treatment in Islam, besides sudden conversion which the likes of Dawkins would do.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 04, 2013 08:46 PM (h4Bce)

364

If I leave a thread and come back, do I have to post "Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor" again?

 

How about if its just long enough to say, "Ha!  Chapter done!  Now I'm going to bed?"

Posted by: AllenG(Dedicated Tenther) At Home at March 04, 2013 08:46 PM (nUH8H)

365 Well, considering the way Britain and Europe as a whole is going is going Dawkins may have to convert sooner than later. An an Anglophile. It breaks my heart what is happening to their culture,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:47 PM (C+2eB)

366 "Correct" meaning himself and those who think exactly like he does. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 05, 2013 12:45 AM (C+2eB) I will then, be a toad.

Posted by: Zombie Stephen Crane at March 04, 2013 08:47 PM (Vk2pI)

367

But not while people like Dawkins are heading up the atheist movement. Certain events in Russia during the last century proved that.

 

This is illogical, because it imputes that events in Russia occurred because its leaders were atheists, without making any direct connection between the events and the leaders' religious views.

 

Substitute "potato eaters" for "atheists" to see the problem.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 04, 2013 08:47 PM (IDSI7)

368 When Atheism becomes something that you evangelize for it is a religion dumbass.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 04, 2013 08:48 PM (qo244)

369

The point is that those who do not believe is not co-extensive with those who are swine intrinsically. It's perfectly possible for someone not to believe in God and yet be a moral person. Conversely, it is also perfectly possible for someone to believe - or at least, to profess to believe in God - and yet behave immorally.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 04, 2013 08:52 PM (IDSI7)

370 At least Anthony Flew had the conviction of following the clues to where they lead and came to the right conclusion.

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 04, 2013 08:52 PM (+9AX9)

371 So, now we've covered the tautological part of the conversation.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 08:53 PM (bxiXv)

372 All right, time to call it a night.

Stay well, y'all!

Posted by: logprof at March 04, 2013 08:53 PM (+iA5G)

373 More like "Takes a Frump". Amirite?

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 04, 2013 08:54 PM (HCwvj)

374

My opinion of David Frum?  Here are people I like more than that less than zero, dickless pile of shit:

Bill Maher

Keith Olbermann

Rahm Emmanuel

 

Posted by: Reggie1971 at March 04, 2013 08:54 PM (8cOY0)

375 I don't think anyone was disputing that, nor am I, but Russia and other atheist countries either actively engaged in persecution of Christians or the churches became a tool of the state. When the state beccomes "god" it is never a good thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 04, 2013 08:55 PM (C+2eB)

376 This is illogical, because it imputes that events in Russia occurred because its leaders were atheists, without making any direct connection between the events and the leaders' religious views.

Events in Russia occurred because Czarism collapsed, and the liberals failed, and a new alternative took over which happened to be atheist.

I wasn't saying that the Bolsheviks were brutal because they were atheist. In fact I mooted that it might be possible for an atheist ruler to be a good ruler.

What I did say was that as long as people like Dawkins are running the atheist show, it will be as if people like Lenin are running the show. And if by some mischance they run the government, we're f0qed.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 08:56 PM (QTHTd)

377 365 --- "Thank God not all atheists are like that." Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 05, 2013 12:45 AM (C+2eB) Yep. Some "atheists" are really anti-theists or, in the West at least, anti-Christians. Others are in thrall of a religion like leftism, which usually boils down to Caesar-worship or Gaia-worship. Then there are the simple atheists, who normally aren't radical or evangelical.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 04, 2013 08:56 PM (C8mVl)

378

Anna Puma- try Best Western or Fairfield.  I know there's a hotel just about a block or so from the Anatole.

 

You don't have to go a mile away (or shouldn't).

 

I think it's Best Western Market Center, but try both chains.

Posted by: AllenG(Dedicated Tenther) At Home at March 04, 2013 08:56 PM (nUH8H)

379 you may be an aithiest you may be agnostic you may hate Christians you may hate Jews you may hate Buddists etc. But muslimbs don't care they want to dominate you. This century will be islam vs. non islam winner takes all

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 08:57 PM (4Nkxq)

380 O doesn't want the state to become God. Only he is worthy of that. (in his on mind)

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 04, 2013 08:58 PM (+9AX9)

381

And with that...

 

Nighty-night.

Posted by: AllenG(Dedicated Tenther) At Home at March 04, 2013 08:58 PM (nUH8H)

382
Cheer up. The bondholders who got fucked the worst were ... the Michigan State Teachers' Union pension fund.

It is to laugh.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 05, 2013 12:26 AM (IDSI7)


I'm sure they got taken care of with some of Obama's stimulus plans.

Posted by: AshleyJudd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at March 04, 2013 08:58 PM (Zd/NW)

383 I've been following the Mets spring training and there's a battle for outfield spots

For centerfield, there's "Capt" Kirk Niewenhuis and Matt den Dekker

Kirk vs Matt Dekker?

The Doomsday Outfield!

Posted by: kbdabear at March 04, 2013 08:59 PM (mCvL4)

384 O doesn't want the state to become God. Only he is worthy of that. (in his on mind) Posted by: harleycowboy at March 05, 2013 12:58 AM (+9AX9) ليس هناك إله إلا الدولة، وأنا رسوله!

Posted by: باراك حسين أوبام at March 04, 2013 08:59 PM (Vk2pI)

385 367
If I leave a thread and come back, do I have to post "Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor" again?

How about if its just long enough to say, "Ha! Chapter done! Now I'm going to bed?"

Posted by: AllenG(Dedicated Tenther) At Home at March 05, 2013 12:46 AM (nUH8H)



I, for one, cannot hear it repeated often enough.....because I know by that statement that I am among friends.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 09:01 PM (kaalw)

386

This century will be islam vs. non islam

winner takes all

 

I think you're right on that one. The "moderate" muslims will become fundamentalists when the radicals take over.

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 04, 2013 09:01 PM (+9AX9)

387 ليس هناك

A little wordy. A brief "lâ" would do.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 04, 2013 09:01 PM (QTHTd)

388 I think you're right on that one. The "moderate" muslims will become fundamentalists when the radicals take over. Posted by: harleycowboy at March 05, 2013 01:01 AM (+9AX9) well yeah, they will kill you. Note the Sunni vs. shia going on in Pakistan

Posted by: Jake in ID at March 04, 2013 09:03 PM (4Nkxq)

389 Yo assembled morons...  still snowing in MN.  In March.  I'm sure you're shocked.

Posted by: zeera at March 04, 2013 09:04 PM (3dXwx)

390 The "moderate" muslims will become fundamentalists when the radicals take over.

Wait. Shi`a or Sunni fundamentalist?

Sunni? okay... Iraqi or Madinan `amal?

Madina? fine... Maliki or Hanbali madhhab?

Hanbali? Are you a moderate Muslim or a Wahhabi?

Wahhabism is all well and good, but you gotta join the Brotherhood, akhi.

ur in the Ikhwan? you need to b in al-qeda bro

SPLITTERS!

Posted by: it never ends at March 04, 2013 09:04 PM (QTHTd)

391

ÈÇÑÇß ÍÓíä ÃæÈÇã at March 05, 2013 12:59 AM

 

Sorry I don't read Arabic.

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 04, 2013 09:04 PM (+9AX9)

392 293 I've heard Brand is approachable, but he's such a crazy wildman on stage (a la Sam Kinison, who I've read was also wonderful to meet) that a lot of folks are afraid of him.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 05, 2013 12:00 AM (7B7jB)

 

The difference being that Kinison seems like someone you would actually would have wanted to approach.  Brand looks like you need a clothespin on your nose if you get within 20 feet of him.

Posted by: buzzion at March 04, 2013 09:05 PM (GULKT)

393

Fuck ALL THIS SHITY SHIT SHIT!!!!!

I so miss Andrew........

We are in the desert now......for a VERY FUCKING LONG TIME!!

Bunkers to Bullshit......

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 09:07 PM (6T/yJ)

394 Bush hired some good people but he also hired a lot of duds. David Frum is among the worst. He has neither decency nor loyalty. And he won't go away. I was thinking Romney, if elected, would have been an improvement on Bush, because with his record in business we could take wise hiring for granted. But, ORCA. So obviously not. What is it with these terrible Republican appointees?

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 04, 2013 09:07 PM (bmtkS)

395 380 365 --- "Thank God not all atheists are like that."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 05, 2013 12:45 AM (C+2eB)

Yep. Some "atheists" are really anti-theists or, in the West at least, anti-Christians. Others are in thrall of a religion like leftism, which usually boils down to Caesar-worship or Gaia-worship. Then there are the simple atheists, who normally aren't radical or evangelical.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 05, 2013 12:56 AM (C8mVl)



If you're atypical, then you're the opposite of typical; if you're amoral, you're the opposite of moral; if you're apolitical, you reject politics -- is it any wonder that atheists are on the other side?



After all, if they were just disclaiming certain knowledge, they could be a-gnostics.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 09:08 PM (kaalw)

396 396
Fuck ALL THIS SHITY SHIT SHIT!!!!!
I so miss Andrew........
We are in the desert now......for a VERY FUCKING LONG TIME!!
Bunkers to Bullshit......

Posted by: Richard at March 05, 2013 01:07 AM (6T/yJ)



10 freakin' seconds is a long time when gross violations of the rule of law and consent of the governed are concerned -- and both have been crapped-on 24/7 for some years now.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 09:13 PM (kaalw)

397 Feh.

With a nod to Groucho,  I knew Frum in the days *before* he was a conservative... The problem is, he hasn't changed much politically.  More to the point, his "conservatism" isn't grounded in those things familiar to AuH2O or Ronaldus Magnus. Never has been, ain't gonna happen.

Then there is the cultural issue; one rather expects a great deal more personal maturity of a Conservative.  That, too, hasn't changed much.

Some creatures evolve.  Others spend their entire lives trying to be alter machers "eschewing mediocrity" and end up as adolescents.  Sucks when that happens.

But Hey!  Lord Black will drop his name now and then... so why self evaluate?

Posted by: Ran Hay at March 04, 2013 09:14 PM (vDfmL)

398

The SDS and the Panthers? Exactly the same thing as the wingnuts. Seriously You Guys.

Posted by: otho at March 04, 2013 09:17 PM (yBF/9)

399 AB was a leader. A captain or admiral would be an appropriate naval rank for him

Frum is a barnacle

Posted by: Reticent Rodent at March 04, 2013 09:22 PM (hauZ0)

400 Great subject matter on the ONT

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 04, 2013 09:22 PM (/7Xis)

401 358 Well this costume should blow a lot people out of the water. Inspired by artwork for Guild Wars 2.

http://www.cosplay.com/photo/3226658/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2013 12:37 AM (h4Bce)

 

Looks like a Mesmer.

Posted by: buzzion at March 04, 2013 09:25 PM (GULKT)

402

 

never a dawkins fan..I think he is an ass

frum... fatass

politicians that don't know the laws..asses

peak oil..heh

almost too much material

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 04, 2013 09:27 PM (/7Xis)

403 Yo assembled morons... still snowing in MN. In March. I'm sure you're shocked. Well ... Scandi Electricians can be a careless bunch ... Here we have de plug and here we have de ZZAAAPPP!

Posted by: Well! I never ... at March 04, 2013 09:28 PM (TvO05)

404 Sadly, there's always too much material. Can has day off bad things happening?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] at March 04, 2013 09:28 PM (bxiXv)

405 I should note that -- should there ever be a Constitutional Convention -- I would do my best to create a new Federal crime: manipulation of the Statute of Limitations.



It has become a hallmark of American politics to commit a crime (e.g. embezzling $1.6B of customer money), but effusively support those whose public duties should include prosecution for that crime (e.g. Obama via the SEC), and escape prosecution [or even effective investigation] while one remains such a supporter [***cough*** Corzine ***cough***].



I'd like to see the Statute of Limitations for certain crimes tolled (extended over a period) while politically-involved individuals supported those in office who are in charge of prosecuting such crimes. It'd be a pretzel to come up with the legislative language, but it is so corrosive to our Republic that it deserves the extra work.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 09:31 PM (kaalw)

406 Night all. Here is a little "Uriah Heep" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyc2fyckfWk

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 04, 2013 09:32 PM (Vk2pI)

407

399

Then I suffer from the "Slow Burn" effect.

I supported putting my "Gold"  out into the battlefield for this country. I got bronze back at least with all the physical parts intact after 12 years. Republicans are DEAD to me based on their limp-dick less, than stellar POS babs for the camera....and.... 

VA-JA'esque purffin of their putrid flacidness over the last four years.

SERIOUS?? This is what we are worthy of for LEADERS?

Then just admit to the very BONENESS of our ilk. At least we can be truthful for once and not continue to lay our trust on a party that has butt-fucked our kin at every turn as of late.  It is time to face a simple truth.....

 

"This Elephant has NO BALLS!"

 

Time to pick a new animal.....

Oh.....fuck you Carl Rove....please die soonest........

"BURP!!"

 

  

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 09:38 PM (6T/yJ)

408

If you're atypical, then you're the opposite of typical; if you're amoral, you're the opposite of moral; if you're apolitical, you reject politics -- is it any wonder that atheists are on the other side?

 

This puts too much of of a point on it, and is therefore a bit of a straw man. "Apolitical" doesn't mean that one rejects politics, but rather that one holds no particular views on the subject (cf. the distinction between "interested" and "uninterested").

 

So, in this context, "atheist" doesn't mean rejecting God, but rather meaning "not believing in God." The distinction is subtle, but real, because someone who rejects God in essence thereby acknowledges God's existence (because how can one reject something that doesn't exist?), whereas, conversely, someone who doesn't believe in God doesn't necessarily reject God (because how can one reject something that doesn't exist?).

 

So, paradoxically, even in Christian theology an atheist who lived a good life could in principle go to Heaven (because he honestly did not believe in God, but lived well nevertheless), whereas a believer who did not live a good life might not.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 04, 2013 09:41 PM (IDSI7)

409 37 What exactly makes Frum a conservative again? - He was in that bunch of guys with Karl Rove and George amnesty-or-bust W Bush. How conservative can you get?

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 04, 2013 09:46 PM (s7etB)

410

Christian theology an atheist who lived a good life could in principle go to Heaven

 

How so?

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 04, 2013 09:46 PM (+9AX9)

411
I'd like to see the Statute of Limitations for certain crimes tolled (extended over a period) while politically-involved individuals supported those in office who are in charge of prosecuting such crimes. It'd be a pretzel to come up with the legislative language, but it is so corrosive to our Republic that it deserves the extra work.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 05, 2013 01:31 AM (kaalw)


Just make it bribery, and make bribery of a public official like murder or diddeling little boys or girls and make it so there is not statute of limitations. That and make bribery of a public official a "capital crime" with the death penalty, for both the briber and the official receiving the bribe.

Posted by: AshleyJudd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at March 04, 2013 09:47 PM (Zd/NW)

412 Besides, once a Republican president hires you, you've got conservative credibility for life. And beyond.

Posted by: David Hackett Souter at March 04, 2013 09:48 PM (s7etB)

413 408 ----"I'd like to see the Statute of Limitations for certain crimes tolled (extended over a period) while politically-involved individuals supported those in office who are in charge of prosecuting such crimes." Posted by: cthulhu at March 05, 2013 01:31 AM (kaalw) -------------------------- That is an EXCELLENT idea.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 04, 2013 09:53 PM (C8mVl)

414

David,

Ms. Jarret is requesting that you meet her in the  Oval Steam Room in 5 minutes.

Bring your "Spider-Man" outfit and Da Feathers........... 

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 09:53 PM (6T/yJ)

415 ONT. It's dead Jim.

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 04, 2013 10:12 PM (+9AX9)

416 411
If you're atypical, then you're the opposite of typical; if you're amoral, you're the opposite of moral; if you're apolitical, you reject politics -- is it any wonder that atheists are on the other side?

This puts too much of of a point on it, and is therefore a bit of a straw man. "Apolitical" doesn't mean that one rejects politics, but rather that one holds no particular views on the subject (cf. the distinction between "interested" and "uninterested").

So, in this context, "atheist" doesn't mean rejecting God, but rather meaning "not believing in God." The distinction is subtle, but real, because someone who rejects God in essence thereby acknowledges God's existence (because how can one reject something that doesn't exist?), whereas, conversely, someone who doesn't believe in God doesn't necessarilyreject God (because how can one reject something that doesn't exist?).

So, paradoxically, even in Christian theology an atheist who lived a good life could in principle go to Heaven (because he honestly did not believe in God, but lived well nevertheless), whereas a believer who did not live a good life might not.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 05, 2013 01:41 AM (IDSI7)



Profoundly disagree. An atheist is making a religious statement ("there is no God") as solid as a theists' ("there is a God"), where an agnostic says that the evidence is inconclusive. Atheists (having been one) are thereby inevitably driven, further and further, into opposition rather than tolerance.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 10:12 PM (kaalw)

417

418

Hey Cowboy,

Specting some rain on the left coast now and nex couple o days...

doing any pig hunting lately?

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 10:16 PM (6T/yJ)

418 Profoundly disagree. An atheist is making a religious statement ("there is no God") as solid as a theists' ("there is a God"), where an agnostic says that the evidence is inconclusive. Atheists (having been one) are thereby inevitably driven, further and further, into opposition rather than tolerance. Yes and no, based on the frailty of human language ... I may believe in God, but not believe in your God and am therefore atheist by your definition but not mine. e.g. To the Romans, the Christians were atheists ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 10:17 PM (TvO05)

419 Leftists are not atheists. They are very religious. They worship a god called Communism. They deny they worship and deny they have a god, but it is still true. All religions are human inventions, including the ones folks refuse to call religions.

Posted by: eman at March 04, 2013 10:18 PM (dZnxf)

420 Yes and no, based on the frailty of human language ...

I may believe in God, but not believe in your God and am therefore atheist by your definition but not mine.

e.g. To the Romans, the Christians were atheists ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 05, 2013 02:17 AM (TvO05)



That is a good point, but only within the context of a state church. In modern parlance, worshiping at the altar of multiculturalism, atheism is the denial of all gods, not just the state-sanctioned ones. Since neither the UK (Dawkins) or the US (most morons) live with a state-sanctioned church [which brings up real tangent -- do we have any Saudi morons????], the distinction between atheism and agnosticism stands.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 10:23 PM (kaalw)

421 That is a good point, but only within the context of a state church. i dunno ... some of those pastafarians get pretty ornery when debating marinara v. alfredo ... And don't get them started on eating at Olive Garden!!!!!

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 10:28 PM (TvO05)

422

418

Unclench......serious, I am a man that would nothing but to take down HOG and dress em up for BBQ. I take that where your from, that is a 24/7 passion!

Wish I had that free range to hunt for meat....even if it be hog...24/7

Did I tell you, I am a fair Master on a smoker/grill with most kinda meats?

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 10:28 PM (6T/yJ)

423

WTF?

You people don't like BBQ?

M and M's eat like hobos and drink like skid-row vets...and.....

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 10:34 PM (6T/yJ)

424 So, paradoxically, even in Christian theology an atheist who lived a good life could in principle go to Heaven (because he honestly did not believe in God, but lived well nevertheless), whereas a believer who did not live a good life might not.

/boggle

I think you might need to learn more Christian theology.   If "living a good life" were sufficient to get into heaven, there would be no need for Christ or the cross.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 04, 2013 10:35 PM (7um7O)

425 A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 05, 2013 02:28 AM (TvO05) cooth - only 1/2 kidding. One of the discussions of atheism I thought was interesting was the analysis that Dawkins, in the author's opinion, used the absolute straw man of God in his arguments: a giant, bearded patriarch sitting in a white robe with one foot on the Earth. Well since man has been to the moon and back and seen no giant with his foot on the Earth, there must be no God! But what religion actually describes God in such anthropromorphized (major spelling fail) terms as a realistic basis for their theology. Definitions of God include: The Alpha and the Omega, That that is, Provider of Peace and Grace, etc. No giants ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 10:39 PM (TvO05)

426 424 That is a good point, but only within the context of a state church.

i dunno ... some of those pastafarians get pretty ornery when debating marinara v. alfredo ...

And don't get them started on eating at Olive Garden!!!!!

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 05, 2013 02:28 AM (TvO05)



Amusingly enough....



About a week ago, the local supermarket tripped over its whatsoever and realized it had too many spiral-cut hams -- so it started blowing 'em out at $5 each (up to 10 lbs.). So I got one, carved it off the bone, and have been noshing on 'em since. The original plan was to freeze a bunch, but we really don't have that much freezer.



So, today, the ham tasted a bit sour and was discarded.....so I had frozen tortellini alfredo instead......and here you are, referring to alfredo.....


Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 10:41 PM (kaalw)

427 Dinner has been chicken soup lately. The hubby is sick as a ... something that is sick. You know its bad when the Urgent Care doc puts a light in his ear and says, "Whoa! that's infected!"

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 10:48 PM (TvO05)

428

So how long can you keep a ham safely in a frig?

 

Just asking....

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 10:49 PM (6T/yJ)

429 Richard; I'm looking forward to my 4th hog roast, celebrating daughter's graduation from college.  Whole hog, skin off, in a converted fuel oil tank.  Charcoal of course...

Posted by: zeera at March 04, 2013 10:51 PM (3dXwx)

430

430

Otitis Media.....do he wear ear-plugs often?

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 10:51 PM (6T/yJ)

431 Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 05, 2013 02:39 AM (TvO05)




I was baptized Catholic.




By the time I was about 8, I had become a fervent atheist (reacting to the zeitgeist [in 1970] and all).




By about 16, I realized that 'maintaining what could not be proved' cut both ways.and started to call myself agnostic.




I'm still agnostic, at 50, in the "if God wants me to believe in something, he surely has my phone number" mode. But I've noticed something else.....people of faith are generally nicer to hang out with, while rabid atheists are -- by and large -- assholes.




Who knows from here?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 10:52 PM (kaalw)

432 431
So how long can you keep a ham safely in a frig?

Just asking....

Posted by: Richard at March 05, 2013 02:49 AM (6T/yJ)



'bout a week.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 10:53 PM (kaalw)

433

432

Think about Apple Wood, after a brisk dry rub the day before.

 

Are you doing it direct on a spit, or indirect with a side-box?

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 10:55 PM (6T/yJ)

434 Otitis Media.....do he wear ear-plugs often? Not specifically the ears: the whole sinus, ears, and throat are infected ... And no, earplugs maybe once every other month ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 10:55 PM (TvO05)

435 437 Otitis Media.....do he wear ear-plugs often?

Not specifically the ears: the whole sinus, ears, and throat are infected ...

And no, earplugs maybe once every other month ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 05, 2013 02:55 AM (TvO05)



Ugh, that sounds thoroughly miserable. Are things getting better?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 10:58 PM (kaalw)

436 cooth - I was baptized Catholic and thought the whole catechism of God, angels, saints sounded like an American corporation business model. But as I have gotten older, the frailty of human language thing has become more obvious in the limits of any discussion religious, philosophical, or otherwise ... So before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water; after enlightenment, chop wood, carry water ... Here we are, what are you going to do about it?

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 11:00 PM (TvO05)

437

437

Does he work in a presurized environ? Pilot? Air-Crew?

URI's are a constant bitch with these jobs. Most of us on the ground only have to deal with one or the other. Flight crews often get the "Full Montey"

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 11:02 PM (6T/yJ)

438 Are things getting better? Actually yes. Was treating the symptoms empirically (sp?) OJ, soup, hot chili, decongestant. When the mucus went dark, we went in and asked was it time to consider antibiotics. The doc thought it best ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 11:04 PM (TvO05)

439 Here we are, what are you going to do about it?

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 05, 2013 03:00 AM (TvO05)



Er.....chop wood, carry water, and opine on the ONT?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 11:05 PM (kaalw)

440

439

 

Pray, ..."Look at me" trying to be a man of prayer and all.....fancy that.....

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 11:05 PM (6T/yJ)

441 Does he work in a presurized environ? No. He is very susceptible to sinus infections due to his allergies. And we were both absolutely drained and exhausted last week.

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 11:06 PM (TvO05)

442 Er.....chop wood, carry water, and opine on the ONT? : -))) You are the elder god, after all!

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 11:09 PM (TvO05)

443 The roaster has racks for the charcoal on the edges.  I'll rub it and inject it.  Apple wood and maybe hickory added to the charcoal would be do-able.

Posted by: zeera at March 04, 2013 11:09 PM (3dXwx)

444 441 Are things getting better?

Actually yes. Was treating the symptoms empirically (sp?) OJ, soup, hot chili, decongestant.

When the mucus went dark, we went in and asked was it time to consider antibiotics. The doc thought it best ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 05, 2013 03:04 AM (TvO05)



Good moves, there -- hot chili is actually really helpful for a lot of things. And mucus going dark is a really good flag for medicine-medicine.



What's he on? I don't think amoxicillin works on anything anymore, but the cephalosporins still work.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 11:10 PM (kaalw)

445 I am hoping that it's not selfish to hope that I don't get this thing. I have been airing out the house, washing all the bedding, emptying the trash everyday ... And hitting the OJ and the chili oil ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 11:11 PM (TvO05)

446 448 I am hoping that it's not selfish to hope that I don't get this thing.

I have been airing out the house, washing all the bedding, emptying the trash everyday ...

And hitting the OJ and the chili oil ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 05, 2013 03:11 AM (TvO05)



If I might make a slight suggestion.....zinc. It's bad for the stomach, so take with food and not too hard.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 11:14 PM (kaalw)

447 What's he on? Not sure. large capsule. colorful wrapper. and 10 days, 2x a day. He usually has the 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 sequence ....

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 11:15 PM (TvO05)

448

444

Well there it is love, weakened Auto-Imun systems are easy targets.

I like me B-12/Zinc combo when I'm pushing it....and DO pound the fluids,

now sleep.......there's the rub!   Afternoon naps ARE GROSSLY UNDERATED!!!! and my per/fav....Red Wine....DAILY!!

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 11:15 PM (6T/yJ)

449 Afternoon naps ARE GROSSLY UNDERATED!!!! Hear! Hear!

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 11:17 PM (TvO05)

450 If I might make a slight suggestion.....zinc. I was a lifeguard in my misspent youth, so when anyone mentions zinc, I always think of the zinc oxide we did under the eyes to reduce glare and headaches ... Looked like a raccoon or a panda on most days. : -)))

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 11:19 PM (TvO05)

451 The eyelids are fluttering, the yawns are increasing, Time to go to bed, A dream without ceasing ... ... until the 6 o'clock alarm rings and we rise, wipe the sleep out of our eyes ....

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at March 04, 2013 11:22 PM (TvO05)

452

446

If this be your "4th" outing, you do not need any help from me.

I do like the apple wood with pork and as you have stated "Coals Around vs. under is an "Off-Set" and so a slow cook approach is good .

I like to quickly spray the meat as it cooks with a spray bottle loaded with the same spices as the rub from time to time...quick open and close least you drag out the cookin to long......wish you a fine BBQ and congrats to your daughter. 

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 11:26 PM (6T/yJ)

453

455

night to you dear lady and qick recov to your man!!

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 11:30 PM (6T/yJ)

454 455
446
If this be your "4th" outing, you do not need any help from me.
I do like the apple wood with pork and as you have stated "Coals Around vs. under is an "Off-Set" and so a slow cook approach is good .
I like to quickly spray the meat as it cooks with a spray bottle loaded with the same spices as the rub from time to time...quick open and close least you drag out the cookin to long......wish you a fine BBQ and congrats to your daughter.

Posted by: Richard at March 05, 2013 03:26 AM (6T/yJ)




I was born in CA, so "BBQ" has had a different meaning for most of my life.....but recently my BH has been in NC on business and has been bringing stuff back. I'm going to be experimenting quite a bit.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 04, 2013 11:32 PM (kaalw)

455

One of these days I will attempt a "rightly done" Pork Shoulder roast done NC style which means some SERIOUS babysitting and feeding of said Q for 12+ hours to get it right. I warmed up with 22 lbs Smoked Turkeys for Christmas last year for a total of 10 hours so I'm thinking I'm ready...

 

we will see....

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 11:44 PM (6T/yJ)

456 On the second hog, I learned how to do the final step.  First time we threw the sucker on a plywood sheet covered in plastic and 'pulled' it apart.  What a mess.  After that experience, I figured out that cutting off sections of the pig and working those into bite size pieces on a small work space was a much better method to process things

Posted by: zeera at March 04, 2013 11:46 PM (3dXwx)

457 BF  Barry  and  I  are  exploring  each  other  at  your  expense  in  the  Lincoln  Bedroom.     Suck it serfs!

Posted by: Reggie Love at March 04, 2013 11:47 PM (ypzqs)

458

459

I envy you doing the "Hog Complete". I live in CA and getting whole hog is a bit difficult in this land of PETA....yet maybe some day....for now I do ribs and brisket with hot-links for the round-out...always slow cooked with love....

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 11:54 PM (6T/yJ)

459

460

The "HAZ-MAT" response team  has been notified!!!!

Posted by: Richard at March 04, 2013 11:56 PM (6T/yJ)

460 Frum would be cock punched 60 times a day if anyone actually thought they wouldn't contract some life-ending virus.

Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2013 12:02 AM (x3YFz)

461

My

     eyes

             droop...

Posted by: Richard at March 05, 2013 12:14 AM (6T/yJ)

462 I'm guessing -- and it's totally a guess here -- that we're not getting to "the number" tonight.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 05, 2013 12:26 AM (kaalw)

463 Nope.... Unless I flame...but my BIC is out of butane... nigh-nigh cthulhu

Posted by: Richard at March 05, 2013 12:30 AM (6T/yJ)

464 466 Nope....

Unless I flame...but my BIC is out of butane...

nigh-nigh cthulhu

Posted by: Richard at March 05, 2013 04:30 AM (6T/yJ)




nigh-nigh, Richard.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 05, 2013 12:49 AM (kaalw)

465 Finally back in my motel room after an 11 hour job. For a while it was looking really good and we really thought we might get out early. Then stuff started breaking that we had no control over.


In other news, it may be a good thing I don't go out to political events or other places I might encounter certain people. I cannot imagine passing up the opportunity to deck Frum or several others in the punditocracy if it arose.

Posted by: epobirs at March 05, 2013 12:54 AM (/qEpG)

466 Posted by: epobirs at March 05, 2013 04:54 AM (/qEpG) Understand the sentiment....not worth the trouble.

Posted by: BignJames at March 05, 2013 01:00 AM (j7iSn)

467 If you read nothing else today, read David Frum. If you read anything else besides David Frum, you might figure out what Frum ignores. You might find out what's wrong with paragraphs like this: "Because President Obama was black, and because Breitbart believed in using every and any weapon at hand, Breitbart’s politics did inevitably become racially coded. Breitbart’s memory will always be linked to his defamation of Shirley Sherrod and his attempt to make a national scandal out of back payments to black farmers: the story he always called “Pigford” with self-conscious resonance. Yet it is wrong to see Breitbart as racially motivated." You might read enough to learn that Pigford vs. Glickman was a discrimination lawsuit that is known by the name of the plaintiff, as is standard; BREIBART DID NOT CHOSE THE NAME. Having read so far, you might then conclude that Frum writes 'Breibart is a racist but don't call him a racist cause I don't - I specifically *DON'T* call him a racist, please note' because David Frum is what Frum calls "one of the leading media figures of the day achiev[ing] his success by his giddy disdain for truth and fairness... one of our leading political figures offers to his admirers a politics inflamed by rage and devoid of ideas". If you read anything else but David Frum you might notice he reprints a year old column by saying "Rereading my obituary a year later, I wouldn't change a word of it", although the column said " Breitbart used those tools without qualm or regret, and he inspired a cohort of young conservative journalists to do likewise" and did not name ANY of them. Yes, a year later, David Frum still has no examples. Did the Breitbart legacy wither on the vine, or are THEY still out there? "Yes" shrieks Frum. If you read anything other than David Frum, you might wonder about a "leader" who writes "What America needs now, and what the Republican party most especially needs, are moderate-minded people who are also tough-minded - who won't be shrieked down and who won't be intimidated" when he's talking against a guy who has been dead for a year, and is not shrieking or bullying or intimidating anybody sane. Maybe I can learn to Frum my way into journalism. I'd have to start small. "Looking back at the horoscope I wrote last year, I'd change not one word. It was bold and true and I repeat it below." If you read anything but David Frum you might conclude that when you consider the future of the Republican Party in 2013, the dead are not a top problem and guys who recycle columns about the dead are not the answer. If you read nothing else, read David Frum. Otherwise skip it.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 05, 2013 01:28 AM (nBsGg)

468 David Frum is dead to me.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at March 05, 2013 01:55 AM (PH+2B)

469 Venn diagram with one circle:

Frum
Democrat
Flaming asshole

Posted by: sTevo at March 05, 2013 02:05 AM (VMcEw)

470 #4-the Political Hat, it's 6:05 am and I didn't read ONT last night, but am happy to see you read Newt's strategy to catch Up to dems.

Posted by: CarolT at March 05, 2013 02:07 AM (z4WKX)

471 "I can't explain why I find Brand so creepy" That's the way I feel about Katy Perry. The woman is Not Right, like an android or mannequin-that-comes-to-life from a bad episode of yhe Twilight Zone. Normally I'm down with the Moron Horde's picks (Christina Hendricks... yep). Not with KP. I wouldn't screw her with a stolen dick.

Posted by: SCOAMF Search Committee at March 05, 2013 02:18 AM (Ale7o)

472 470 If you read nothing else today, read David Frum. - Definitely don't read that comment, ever, if you want to respect David Frum.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at March 05, 2013 02:21 AM (aaHi/)

473 468 Epobirs,

Maybe a webzine caled "Hotel Living and Hobo Hunting" is in order....

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 05, 2013 02:31 AM (LRFds)

474 Where's the morning guys?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 05, 2013 02:31 AM (P7hip)

475 http://bit.ly/XJGJBl

flotus link. bitch.

Posted by: sTevo at March 05, 2013 02:33 AM (VMcEw)

476 I'm not too old for this stuff. I'm not too old for this stuff. Heh. Who am I trying to fool. I'm too old for this stuff but still gotta do it.

Posted by: teej at March 05, 2013 02:38 AM (/tk/V)

477 http://bit.ly/XJII8S

I am partial to the Indian poster.

Posted by: sTevo at March 05, 2013 02:41 AM (VMcEw)

478 http://youtu.be/sNPNFtR-lsQ

Shadowrun Online-Contextual gameplay

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 05, 2013 02:42 AM (LRFds)

479 I've only seen Russell Brand during the "Monty Python, Almost the Truth" mini-series, and he was the worst thing about that show.  Unfunny, jumped up, if I could have an edited version that completely chopped him out it would improve the show immensely.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 05, 2013 02:42 AM (P7hip)

480 477 Beckoning Chasm,

Trying to find links or things to rage or praise at...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 05, 2013 02:42 AM (LRFds)

481 http://tinyurl.com/azt5bzc

Fox News Worf's Rules may cost millions....

who elected her again?

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 05, 2013 02:44 AM (LRFds)

482 http://tinyurl.com/bfmca4t

FoxNews-Chinese General leMay visiting the US today...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 05, 2013 02:45 AM (LRFds)

483 http://tinyurl.com/axnxgac

Fox News-8 EX DEA Heads say Feds should Nullify State Pot Laws...


uh yeah that is not how that works champ...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 05, 2013 02:46 AM (LRFds)

484 http://tinyurl.com/axeppgd

FoxNews-Egyptian Copts having cross tatoos burned off with Acid by the "means peace brigade"

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 05, 2013 02:48 AM (LRFds)

485 http://tinyurl.com/b94bnjq

Sacramento Couple Claims was Kicked out of mall for PDA......

Yup...nothing passive aggressive there...


Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 05, 2013 02:51 AM (LRFds)

486 I've never read a Frum article or writing. I've never read the WashPo. Ever. Seriously. But he seems like he's actually obsessed with Breitbart and envious of his passion and conviction. And thats the thing that really seems to irritate the media elite: they are being out-worked and out-thought and out-created by a new generation. They are dinosaurs and loser ones at that.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 05, 2013 03:02 AM (n8LUb)

487 489 Foghorn Leghorn,

Frum is the answer to a question no one asked...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 05, 2013 03:03 AM (LRFds)

488 LOL... Oberlin College cancelled classes yesterday because someone SUPPOSEDLY saw a Clansman walking about in white hood etc: http://tinyurl.com/b35wlzd

Posted by: Baldy at March 05, 2013 03:21 AM (opS9C)

489 491 Baldy,

if they had the courage of their convictions they'd have lynched him...

Posted by: sven10077-ArkLaTex travelogue and Researcher at March 05, 2013 03:25 AM (LRFds)

490 “Since the beginning, there’s been anger, frustration, sadness and fear, but we’ve been working toward a concentrated effort toward change,” said Eliza Diop, 20, a politics and Africana Studies major who serves on the college student senate and is a resident of the Afrikan Heritage House, which offers programs focused on the African diaspora, according to the college’s website. (see 491 for link)

Posted by: Baldy at March 05, 2013 03:27 AM (opS9C)

491 sven- Quinn & Rose just played a news report. It was hilarious with all of the students speaking. (I have had friends who went there, and while I was a lib when I knew them, they were positively Marxist)

Posted by: Baldy at March 05, 2013 03:29 AM (opS9C)

492 More often he got them wrong (Sherrod). Actually, Frum-tard, it's you and your legacy media journ-o-list cohorts who missed the point on that one.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at March 05, 2013 04:30 AM (7ObY1)

493 If someone takes a dump on David Frum, how could you tell?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 05, 2013 04:32 AM (wtvvX)

494 You gotta get a gimmick...

Posted by: Frummy at March 05, 2013 04:40 AM (LYwCh)

495 A lot of the stuff Ace has been saying of late sounds like Frum.

Posted by: maddogg at March 05, 2013 04:49 AM (OlN4e)

496 David Frum is currently on my list of people whom I will spit on if I ever meet them in person.

Posted by: john at March 05, 2013 04:53 AM (tGUu3)

497 Thanks to all the assholes who voted for Jug Hussein Ears and all the idiots in Congress for passing ObamaCare. Just received the yearly renewal rate for my wife's health insurance....a 65% increase over last year's rate! Nearly 1200 dollars a month! Past increases were on the average of 18%. I hate that bastard with the heat of a thousand suns. AND the cork soakers who put him in office.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at March 05, 2013 05:11 AM (TPimP)

498

In Florida it is also against the law to tie an alligator to a fire hydrant.

 

Posted by: burt at March 05, 2013 05:48 AM (/QJXp)

499

I am the great Frumholio! I need moderate TP for my bunghole.

Are you threatening me!?

Posted by: The Great Frumholio at March 05, 2013 05:59 AM (fR8pj)

500 Fuck Breitbart and his crazy ass weird ass cult of personality that surpasses that of even Obama. Guy was a nut and a con artist and is the reason the GOP won't get any political power in 2016 and beyond.

Posted by: palooka at March 05, 2013 06:58 AM (9ujwO)

501 Thanks a lot for reminding me Frum is alive and well.  I was so happy, having forgotten all about him. 

Posted by: glide55 at March 05, 2013 10:16 AM (Z2aee)

502 I'm just concerned you uppity wingnuts who don't know their place are making things tough for docile, well-behaved, loyal-to-the-plantation RINOs like me. Show some respect for 'Massa Bama.  

Posted by: Uncl;e Dave at March 05, 2013 11:48 AM (KZcFn)

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