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June 26, 2013

Palin: Let's Primary Ayotte and Rubio
— Ace

I was never a super-fan of Ayotte. I favored Ovide Lemontagne over her in the primary, and was annoyed when Palin endorsed Ayotte.

Rubio probably can't be beat but there's no harm in trying.

Palin' pitch here is about honesty and fidelity, not the issues per se. Her main problem, per her statements, is that Rubio and Ayotte simply lied to primary voters (and she herself, I imagine) and aren't trustworthy.

Â“Conservatives are getting ready for the 2014 and 2016 primaries. We have long memories, and there will be consequences for those who break campaign promises and vote for this amnesty bill," Palin told Breitbart News. "Competition makes everyone work harder, be better, and be held accountable. This applies to politics, too. No one is Â‘entitledÂ’ to anything."
She continued, "Rigorous debate in competitive primaries allows candidates the opportunity to explain their flip-flops. So think of contested primaries as a win-win for politicians and their voters."
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"Every politician should be held accountable for breaking their campaign promises," Palin said during an interview on the "John Gibson Radio Show" on Fox News radio. "They turned their back on the American public, so why should they not be held accountable?"

It seems hard to make a case in favor of less honesty, candor, and accountability in politics, but I'm sure the New York Times and the rest of the Liberal Cheer Squad in the media will make that case when these two get a primary challenger. We'll hear endless whining about "extremism" in the conservative movement, and very little at all about honoring promises made to voters.

Posted by: Ace at 12:54 PM | Comments (239)
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1 They be a like, you need to wear pants to court and shit.

Posted by: Jeantel at June 26, 2013 12:55 PM (+iA5G)

2 First?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 12:56 PM (aDwsi)

3 Crap.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 12:56 PM (aDwsi)

4 Unelectable.

Which, if you think about it, is simply a shorter way of saying "we are so screwed."

Posted by: filbert at June 26, 2013 12:56 PM (7vimm)

5 Everyone should be primaryed to keep them honest

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 12:56 PM (jE38p)

6 They lied to her face (politically speaking, if not literally), and made her look the fool, and she's calling them on it. Good for Sarah.

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 12:57 PM (+iA5G)

Shorter NYT future headline: "You Can't Handle the Truth"

Future article: So suck it racist H8rs.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 26, 2013 12:57 PM (t06LC)

8 It seems hard to make a case in favor of less honesty, candor, and accountability in politics In fairness, if our candidates would lie and then stick it to the proggers after the election, I could get behind it.

Posted by: toby928© at June 26, 2013 12:57 PM (QupBk)

9 Yes, primary them!
Over at Breitbart: 3 LGBT having a sit-in at Rubio's Tampa office because he isn't doing enough to support LGBT immigration.
THIS is why you never compromise with the Left, Rubio. You can't please them and you lose our support.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2013 12:57 PM (AmWlQ)

10 This straight out lying to voters on important issues has gotten way out of hand. They really need to be slapped down.

Posted by: Waldo at June 26, 2013 12:58 PM (RZwdH)

11 Politicians never lie.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 26, 2013 12:58 PM (o87nI)

12 What REALLY pisses me off is the Zuckerburg commercial running under the guise of conservatives. Outright propaganda.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 12:58 PM (aDwsi)

13 Bingo, not the issue. The Lying. The ran on one platform, then folded like cheap empty suits. Fuck'm, and feed'm fish heads...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 26, 2013 12:58 PM (jsWA8)

14 1 They be a like, you need to wear pants to court and shit. Posted by: Jeantel at June 26, 2013 04:55 PM (+iA5G) 2 First? Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 04:56 PM (aDwsi) 3 Crap. Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 04:56 PM (aDwsi) --See, that's how you do it. Even if it's completely OT, put something besides "First"

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 12:58 PM (+iA5G)

15 I live close enough to NH to do some sign holding for Ayotte's opponent. Maybe we can escape to NH in time to vote against her.

Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at June 26, 2013 12:59 PM (VhKUk)

16 Rubio. At Tanagra. His arms open. His future...difficult.

Posted by: Jean Luc at June 26, 2013 12:59 PM (n8LUb)

17 Wow, they are trying to impeach the wit with her transcript. She can't talk what makes them think she can read even if she is in college? lol!

Posted by: Waldo at June 26, 2013 01:00 PM (RZwdH)

18 Burn the muffins.

Scatter the parsley.

Salt the pretzels where they stood.

Posted by: RiverC at June 26, 2013 01:00 PM (El+h4)

19 13 Bingo, not the issue. The Lying. The ran on one platform, then folded like cheap empty suits. Fuck'm, and feed'm fish heads... Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 26, 2013 04:58 PM (jsWA

--Now, if they were to lie because of later voting more rightward then they ran, I would have no problem. Demotards do the converse all the time.

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 01:00 PM (+iA5G)

11. Bill C.

... only on their backs.

Posted by: Look at me at June 26, 2013 01:01 PM (n8LUb)

21 I did..., I DID! I actually refreshed an empty post. See..., it's there..., it's just invisible.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 01:01 PM (aDwsi)

22 OBAMA: I won't force churches to conduct gay weddings... Just like he wouldn't force them to offer contraceptives...

Posted by: Waldo at June 26, 2013 01:01 PM (RZwdH)

23 Allen West could defeat Rubio in a Florida primary. He might lose in the general, but he could win the primary.

Posted by: jmell7 at June 26, 2013 01:01 PM (ppZ16)

"We'll hear endless whining about "extremism" in the conservative movement, and very little at all about honoring promises made to voters."

Shoot, you can get *that* from some of the GOP cheerleader commenters right here on AoSHQ.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at June 26, 2013 01:01 PM (YYJjz)

25 Rubio probably can't be beat but there's no harm in trying.

--

Really? I think he is doomed. Assuming everyone doesn't go soft on him by '16.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 26, 2013 01:01 PM (ovWeo)

26 Link to trial feed?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 01:02 PM (aDwsi)

27
Our problem is loyalty. We're just too damn loyal to some of these shitbums on election day.

On the other hand, we're not loyal enough to some of the bona fide conservatives when they make a little flub (that is outlandishly blown out of proportion by the Left).

Posted by: soothsayer at June 26, 2013 01:02 PM (052zE)

28 Well Rand Paul joins the career suicide club today, by agreeing with Kennedy on the strike down of DOMA.

Rand, you might think 2016 is far away, but Conservatives will not forget on primary days

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 01:02 PM (k+2tb)

29 >>Can't disagree. Indeed. When I looked into Ayotte's record (during the VPstakes last year) I was not particularly impressed. When is Flake due for re-election? If only Palin and many others had shown similar resolve about that turd Orrin Hatch.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2013 01:03 PM (5H6zj)

30 We'll hear endless whining about "extremism" in the conservative movement, and very little at all about honoring promises made to voters. Posted by: Ace at 04:54 PM If Dims were honest about their intents/policies, they would never win another election. Of course, the Liberal Cheer Squad will support lying, it's all they have. Thought experiment: Imagine Obama had been completely honest about his plans and policies and their cost in 2008.

Posted by: Test at June 26, 2013 01:03 PM (n0B9h)

31 The Orthodox remember. The Muslims were like, oh, we won't stop you from worshiping!

(as long as...)

1. We can steal your young men for soldiers
2. You cannot ring any bells
3. You do not speak a word about the faith outside your church, at pain of your Bishop being killed
4. You do not teach anyone about the faith, including your children

Posted by: RiverC at June 26, 2013 01:03 PM (El+h4)

32 Ayotte's problem is not a primary, but the General Election.

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 01:04 PM (k+2tb)

33 OT but I gotta hand it to the Patriots for cutting Aaronthal, even if it's before due process. I'm still pissed at my Chefs for "honoring" Javon Belcher after he killed the mother of his baby girl. Also, the Cowboys still have the drunk-driver homicide guy on their roster.

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 01:04 PM (+iA5G)

34 Burn the muffins.

Scatter the parsley.

Salt the pretzels where they stood.

Posted by: RiverC at June 26, 2013 05:00 PM (El+h4)

^^^^^^^

Now this right here is Teh Funneh

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 26, 2013 01:04 PM (32Ze2)

35 Rubio never learned that it doesn't matter what you do, the libs will hate you anyway.

Posted by: Iblis at June 26, 2013 01:05 PM (9221z)

36 12. Mike, who runs those those Faux ads? Fox News, Amnesty whores of cable

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 01:05 PM (k+2tb)

37 #24 commenters -> cobloggers -> Gabe

FIFY

Posted by: RiverC at June 26, 2013 01:05 PM (El+h4)

38 BTW, Ayotte won her primary by a mere 1000 votes with Palin being her only conservative backer. Better hope there are lots of Latinos voting in the Republican primary in NH for this to be anything less than stupid!

Posted by: Ovide at June 26, 2013 01:05 PM (ppZ16)

Little known true fact: "Ovide Lemontagne" is French for "I just rubbed Bag Balm on my Nut Sack."

You can look it up.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 26, 2013 01:05 PM (03IDC)

40 So, in regards to the reaction about the VRA, and the possibly too-quick lynching of Ms.Deen, and, of course, the Saint Trayvon event: It is now very obvious that for the power brokers, we in the South, of the Caucasian variety, are "guilty until proven guilty". I do believe there is going to be a cost to the United States in that.

Posted by: T. at June 26, 2013 01:05 PM (kvyeG)

41 Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 05:02 PM (k+2tb) Meh. Rand Paul leans Libertarian. Of course, he would support it. Plus, he had nothing at all to do with the suit or decision of the SC. I fail to see how this changes anything for him.

Posted by: Test at June 26, 2013 01:06 PM (n0B9h)

42 33 OT but I gotta hand it to the Patriots for cutting Aaronthal, even if it's before due process. -- They did? Well that's something.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2013 01:06 PM (5H6zj)

43 This witness in the little trayvon case is some piece of work

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 01:06 PM (jE38p)

44 That's true. They should be held to the standard they campaigned under. Lying is a sin. These fuckers are already going to burn in hell, they should at least not have a job when they get there.

Posted by: © Sponge at June 26, 2013 01:06 PM (xmcEQ)

45 Are ya listenin'? Are ya listenin'? This bitch needs a punch in the head.

Posted by: Waldo at June 26, 2013 01:07 PM (RZwdH)

Nuke the hot dogs.

Scatter the onions.

Salt the buns.

Posted by: way past lunchtime at June 26, 2013 01:07 PM (wAQA5)

47 Little known true fact:"Ovide Lemontagne" is French for"I just rubbed Bag Balm on my Nut Sack." You can look it up. Posted by: Sharkman at June 26, 2013 05:05 PM (03IDC) Cool. Ovide was my favorite character from Bloom County.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 26, 2013 01:07 PM (+iA5G)

48 Mike, who runs those those Faux ads? Fox News, Amnesty whores of cable
Posted by: Jackj
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Our local (conservative) Talk Radio station too

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 01:08 PM (aDwsi)

49 42 33 OT but I gotta hand it to the Patriots for cutting Aaronthal, even if it's before due process. -- They did? Well that's something. Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2013 05:06 PM (5H6zj) --I'm sure there's a salary (cap) angle to it as well, but murder is just too damn serious to wait to see how it plays out.

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 01:08 PM (+iA5G)

50 #41

Agreed. I was among those who felt the DOMA was, in concept, centralizing decisions too much.

The upside of these responsibility-denying decisions of the federal government vis-a-vis the continuation of our civilization is that it returns decisions to the states.

...somewhat. Except for the implications of the Prop 8 decision, which are horrifying.

Posted by: RiverC at June 26, 2013 01:09 PM (El+h4)

51 The left wants us to go off on them so they can justify voiding the Constitution. As an emergency measure until things calm down. The strip us of our rights, and voices, and try to drive us from the public square.

Posted by: Iblis at June 26, 2013 01:09 PM (9221z)

52 Waldo -- Link for the trial??

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 01:09 PM (aDwsi)

53 -See, that's how you do it. Even if it's completely OT, put something besides "First" Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 04:58 PM (+iA5G) THANK YOU!!!! Now I understand why Chuckles over at LittleGreenFuckholes programmed his shit to take any comment in the start of a thread with "FIRST" or thereabouts and deleted it.

Posted by: © Sponge at June 26, 2013 01:09 PM (xmcEQ)

54 Are ya listenin'? Are ya listenin'? This bitch needs a punch in the head. Posted by: Waldo at June 26, 2013 05:07 PM (RZwdH) And the cops interviewed her in front of little trayvon's parent? how the fuck did that happen?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 01:09 PM (jE38p)

55 ::sighs::

I'm getting really embarrassed to be in this shrinking tent with you gay-hating Latino-fearing bigots. If good conservatives like Mary Landrieu and Barbara Mikulski are no longer good enough for you people then this witch hunt really has gone too far. Fortunately people like me are the future of the GOP and not old white geezers like all of you. lolz

Posted by: ArferEmLendez at June 26, 2013 01:09 PM (4f/S/)

56 Bet, DeeDee or whatever name she is going by now, goes home, swallows 5 aspirin, and is rushed to the ER and admitted as a suicide attempt because WhiteBoyz were mean to her.

Posted by: We Are All Crackas Now at June 26, 2013 01:09 PM (RZwdH)

57 I hope she has some viable TP candidates in mind. "Never tell your enemy to go to hell unless you're prepared to send him there."

The age old question: is it better to run a Christine O'Donnell, for instance, and lose the seat or work with the devil you know?

Posted by: PJ at June 26, 2013 01:09 PM (ZWaLo)

58 why bother, eh?

Posted by: joeindc44 will never be convinced at June 26, 2013 01:10 PM (QxSug)

59 Ovid Lemontagne! I fart in your general direction!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:10 PM (+98Gb)

60 THIS is why you never compromise with the Left, Rubio. You can't please them and you lose our support. Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2013 04:57 PM (AmWlQ) With his latest tear jerker speech, I'm almost convinced it's not a compromise for him. The only thing he's advanced while in office has been a massive leftwing fraud. He's also a lawyer. Guy's a fucking Dem. Period.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 26, 2013 01:10 PM (QLNHI)

61 2 years in a row, a center right court f-ed us in the butt. The left will now feel emboldened to bring any case they want to the court, and now that either Scalia, Roberts, or Kennedy will go with them

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 01:10 PM (k+2tb)

62 Good article on the future political fights http://tinyurl.com/oqopxve

Posted by: Iblis at June 26, 2013 01:10 PM (9221z)

63 The NYT will have a case of the vapours.

"Oh my gosh!! That Alaskan rube is saying politicians should have integrity!! That is not how it's down!!"

Probably missed a few exclamation points.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 26, 2013 01:10 PM (Hgwa5)

64 Logprof, where are you in lutefiskland?

Posted by: Al Shabbah at June 26, 2013 01:11 PM (CwPO/)

65 Oooh. He's about to get this Jantel to snap.

And the judge is jumping in Candy Crowly style to save her.

And the prosecution knows it.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 2013 01:11 PM (VjL9S)

66 Palin did endorse McCain right? Is she calling for him to be held accountable? Recall? Harshly worded statement? A mean wink?

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 01:11 PM (m2CN7)

67 She's indicated that she doesnt plan to return to court tomorrow. LOL

Posted by: We Are All Crackas Now at June 26, 2013 01:11 PM (RZwdH)

68 I am dead serious I want Palin to run in 2016. Who the fuck else do we have? Who do we have we can say without a doubt will not sell us out? Chris Christie? Rubio?

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 26, 2013 01:12 PM (sPBit)

69 Rubio is finished either way.

If he relents and helps kill the amnesty bill in the end, he loses all his new Hispanic voter cred

If it dies in the House, Rubio is still a quisling

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 01:12 PM (k+2tb)

70 They need to be primaried out. I think Rubio can be beat. He's a proven liar, and his district ain't in New York where lying shitweasels are loved and provided oral sex and money.

Posted by: maddogg at June 26, 2013 01:12 PM (OlN4e)

71 Protip for star witness: You will look more intelligent if you close your mouth when you're not talking. Protip #2: When you are well-endowed in the neck area, perhaps leaving your weave down may help your appearance. Btw, she has great skin, assuming it's not the result of MAC foundation.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 26, 2013 01:12 PM (r+7wo)

72 68 I am dead serious I want Palin to run in 2016. Who the fuck else do we have? Who do we have we can say without a doubt will not sell us out? Chris Christie? Rubio? Posted by: Mr Pink at June 26, 2013 05:12 PM (sPBit) Sefton for barracks chief! Or president.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:12 PM (+98Gb)

73 10 This straight out lying to voters on important issues has gotten way out of hand. They really need to be slapped down. Posted by: Waldo at June 26, 2013 04:58 PM (RZwdH) Actually, something worse needs to happen to them AND their families. I know, I KNOW that it is wrong to think and especially to say that, but if I don't I will explode. I am tired of being exploited by the political class and public employee unions. They are turrning us into slaves and I am very tired.

Posted by: Jack at June 26, 2013 01:12 PM (gWHwW)

74
We just watched as the Democrats and the media yawned and ignored legit scandals. And guess what happened? The scandals evaporated!

But no, we can't do that because we have integrity and all that stupid shit that compels us to be honorable and honest. We must address every flub a Republican makes and condemn him/her in the process just to show how much better we are than the Democrats. We are fools, is what we are. Politically, we are outmatched and we don't even realize it.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 26, 2013 01:12 PM (Y4TdB)

75 Really? I think he is doomed. Assuming everyone doesn't go soft on him by '16. I thought the same on Anthony Weiner.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 01:13 PM (xZxMD)

76 She's right, of course, but if her endorsements carry any weight at all in NH, she's a big part of the reason we have Ayotte in the senate instead of Lamontagne to begin with. That was a very close race, decided by fewer than 1,700 votes. Primary them! is the easy part. Picking the right person to back in the primary is a might harder, as Palin hopefully is learning here.

Posted by: Andy at June 26, 2013 01:13 PM (bjOf8)

77 The age old question: is it better to run a Christine O'Donnell, for instance, and lose the seat or work with the devil you know? When either results in the devil getting his way, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 26, 2013 01:13 PM (QLNHI)

78 If we don't draw political blood, then there is no reason why they should respect our wishes. The NRA will support Democrats so long as they remain true on gun issues. THAT is how it's done. Draw a line, attack anyone crossing the line.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:13 PM (bb5+k)

79 Maybe Scott Walker, who had the guts to fight the unions and obamcare in a blue state. You have remember, Walker is an hour from Chicago, and the marxists there go after him too

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 01:13 PM (k+2tb)

80 I would say Rubio jumped the shark but that would presuppose a long and illustrious career. More like the shark jumped him and bit him in the comb-over.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:13 PM (+98Gb)

81 Oooh. He's about to get this Jantel to snap. And the judge is jumping in Candy Crowly style to save her. And the prosecution knows it. THAT'S an appeal.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 01:14 PM (xZxMD)

82 78. No pro gun Dems left. Maybe Pryor and Begich. NRA is running ads against Manchin as we speak

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 01:14 PM (k+2tb)

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 05:02 PM (k+2tb)

The Defense of marriage act always had a problem form Libertarians... but not for the same reason the Supremes killed it...

It flat out says in the Constitution that : Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.

Marriage is a License... having one State not recognize the marriage of another State... flies in the face of Constitution... and a Federal Law which says they DON"T have to recognize said License, or contract, as DOMA did, is UnConstitutional.

DOMA tried to have it both ways, by saying it was up to the States, but other States did not have to recognize it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2013 01:14 PM (lZBBB)

60 -

I can't get mad at Rubio. He's a whore. When your whore is being paid by you, your whore will tell you she loves you. When your whore is being paid by someone else, she tells that person she loves him.

It makes no sense to get one's heart broken over the lies of a whore.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2013 01:15 PM (TOk1P)

85 Well..., court's over. I notice that she was wearing hugely stupid shoes...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 01:15 PM (aDwsi)

86 I am tired of being exploited by the political class and public employee unions. They are turrning us into slaves and I am very tired.

Posted by: Jack at June 26, 2013 05:12 PM (gWHwW)

Noted.

Posted by: NSA at June 26, 2013 01:15 PM (Kkt/i)

87 Rubio didn't earn much Hispanic voter cred because they've upped the ante: now they're insisting that he proves he supports LGBT immigration.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2013 01:15 PM (AmWlQ)

OBAMA: I won't force churches to conduct gay weddings...

"Oh, we're so grateful, King Obama, that you won't FORCE us, in violation of our Constitutional rights, to do something we don't want to do."

Fu*k you.

Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2013 01:15 PM (j2MYh)

89 Mike Hammer --- Legal Insurrection has a live feed of the trial

Posted by: L, elle at June 26, 2013 01:15 PM (0PiQ4)

90 THIS is why you never compromise with the Left, Rubio. You can't please them and you lose our support. Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2013 04:57 PM (AmWlQ) "Ya ratted out your friends. You do that, Frankie, your enemies don't respect ya. You got no friends anymore. You've got nobody, Frankie."

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:15 PM (bb5+k)

91 I love it when Sarah cracks the whip. Now, if only I could get her to wear the black boustierre...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 26, 2013 01:15 PM (qpah5)

92 74. So helping pass amnesty and giving the Democrats 20 million new voters, is a flub?

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 01:16 PM (k+2tb)

93 79 Maybe Scott Walker, who had the guts to fight the unions and obamcare in a blue state. You have remember, Walker is an hour from Chicago, and the marxists there go after him too Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 05:13 PM (k+2tb) I like the cut of Walker's jib. And Bolton is making some rumblings as well, though I have no idea how he stands on domestic policy vis a vis the free market and limited gubmint. But at least this far out, the field is looking much better than it did last year. Cruz and Rand Paul with Walker and Bolton. Throw in a potential veep like Trey Gowdy and hopefully the fat fuck brigade of Jeb and Krispy Kreme can be neutralized.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:16 PM (+98Gb)

94 It flat out says in the Constitution that : Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. Marriage is a License... having one State not recognize the marriage of another State... flies in the face of Constitution... and a Federal Law which says they DON"T have to recognize said License, or contract, as DOMA did, is UnConstitutional. So? So's a concealed handgun liscense.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 01:16 PM (xZxMD)

95 Rubio didn't earn much Hispanic voter cred because they've upped the ante: now they're insisting that he proves he supports LGBT immigration.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2013 05:15 PM (AmWlQ)

If he hasn't figured out how the Left plays the game by now, being a liar is the least of his problems.

Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2013 01:17 PM (j2MYh)

96 Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2013 05:14 PM (lZBBB)

There you go again, quoting that Constitution thing.

Posted by: filbert at June 26, 2013 01:17 PM (7vimm)

OBAMA: I won't force churches to conduct gay weddings...

Just like he wouldn't force them to offer contraceptives...

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Just like "if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance."

All NoBama promises come with expiration dates.

Posted by: Boots at June 26, 2013 01:17 PM (oG66P)

98 Look, Palin has made mistakes, not finishing her first term was dumb, but she was going bankrupt due to Soros lawsuits in Alaska. But I give her credit for going after Boehner this week, she holds sway in GOP House districts for sure

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 01:17 PM (k+2tb)

99 It flat out says in the Constitution that : Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.

Marriage is a License... having one State not recognize the marriage of another State... flies in the face of Constitution... and a Federal Law which says they DON"T have to recognize said License, or contract, as DOMA did, is UnConstitutional.

DOMA tried to have it both ways, by saying it was up to the States, but other States did not have to recognize it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2013 05:14 PM (lZBBB)

You do know that the 2nd amendment is not afforded the Full Faith Clause right?

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 01:17 PM (m2CN7)

100 Ayotte's problem is not a primary, but the General Election. Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 05:04 PM (k+2tb) If we have to lose that to send the message, then that's what needs to be done. Cutting off heads is not pretty or without consequence, but sometimes you must.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:18 PM (bb5+k)

101 Palin = Burn the witch!

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 26, 2013 01:18 PM (tOkJB)

102 >> So? So's a concealed handgun liscense. Exactly! Which is why nationwide reciprocity should be the rule already.

Posted by: Andy at June 26, 2013 01:18 PM (bjOf8)

103 He's about to get this Jantel to snap. And the judge is jumping in Candy Crowly style to save her. And the prosecution knows it. Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 2013 05:11 PM (VjL9S) They are literally coming all over themselves at CNN about what a great witness she is????? There is a term for a person like her

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 01:18 PM (jE38p)

104 Bolton is a big Gay Marriage Supporter

Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 01:18 PM (k+2tb)

105 88 OBAMA: I won't force churches to conduct gay weddings... "Oh, we're so grateful, King Obama, that you won't FORCE us, in violation of our Constitutional rights, to do something we don't want to do." Fu*k you. Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2013 05:15 PM (j2MYh) No, but they will lose their tax exempt status. I would bet my house that that is what is being set up as we speak. Some Sandra Fluke and her tongue holster are being prepped for a show down at some church in flyover country.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:19 PM (+98Gb)

106 West should primary Rubio, and Palin should take out her archnemesis Murkowski.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 26, 2013 01:19 PM (AVaK2)

107 Cutting off heads is not pretty or without consequence, but sometimes you must. Eggs gotta be broken...

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 01:19 PM (xZxMD)

108 Is this Jantel, little trayvon's type of girl?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 01:19 PM (jE38p)

109 Don't really care, they ain't from here.
Don't even know who is running from here, except the democrats who never lose no matter what, except one of them is retiring so it'll be a no name democrat unless it's a democrat on the 'R' line.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 26, 2013 01:19 PM (sLrRH)

110 Link to trial feed?

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The comedy show is over for today.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 26, 2013 01:19 PM (Hx5uv)

111

This is a difficult site to post on, format-wise. If I don't put 20 spaces between a quote and my own comments, they jam together at the top with no spaces at all.

And, by the way, how does one insert italics, bold, etc. The icons at the top don't work for me.

Thanks for any tips.

Posted by: rrpjr at June 26, 2013 01:19 PM (j2MYh)

112 I thought the same on Anthony Weiner. Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 05:13 PM (xZxMD) We are not liberal drones. Marco Rubio's mistakes: 1) He think's he's Obama, with unstoppable charm and universally loved forever. (I don't think Obama is either, ftr.) For Pete's sake, the guy is freaking 42 and already has an autobiography. 2) He think's the GOP base are drones like the Dem base. Wrong on that count. He was already a narcissist who thought too highly of himself. So it was easy for him to be deceived by McCain that amnesty wouldn't damage him. After all, McShamnesty got the GOP nom in 2008. And being an unprincipled hack with an over-inflated sense of self and an under-inflated sense of our intelligence, he fell for it, and whatever else Schumer and Durbin may have convinced him of. Even if he backs out now, the damage is already irreparable.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 26, 2013 01:19 PM (r+7wo)

113 Mike, who runs those those Faux ads? Fox News, Amnesty whores of cable

Posted by: Jackj
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Our local (conservative) Talk Radio station too

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 05:08 PM (aDwsi)

Those ads with Rubio and Ryan are on WRKO in Boston too. I'm not sure where you are Mike Hammer. I have also heard them on Mark Levin's show when I listen live to him online.

Posted by: CarolT at June 26, 2013 01:20 PM (z4WKX)

114 You do know that the 2nd amendment is not afforded the Full Faith Clause right?

Hey, it's a Living Constitution.

That means that it means the exact opposite of what it says. Whenever that's convenient, that is. Convenient for the Ruling Class, that is, not for the little people.

Posted by: filbert at June 26, 2013 01:20 PM (7vimm)

115 108 Is this Jantel, little trayvon's type of girl? Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 05:19 PM (jE38p) I thought his baby momma's name was Alopecia or Turdelle.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:20 PM (+98Gb)

116 Not a Palin fan, bit couldn't agree more.

I actually think Allen West could beat Rubio in a primary. Ask the sitting Governor Charlie Crist about how safe a sitting Republican office holder is, and that was all over something as innocuous as Obama's pork barrel spending.

Amnesty is the whole enchilada.

Posted by: Jeepers at June 26, 2013 01:20 PM (XDRsa)

117
So helping pass amnesty and giving the Democrats 20 million new voters, is a flub?

No, I was referring the rush to bury the senatorial candidate in MO. You're obviosly unfamiliar with Soothsayers First Rule: Support the most electable conservative candidate who has never taken sides with the Democrats against you.

Rubio broke my cardinal rule, whereas Akin merely said something unhelpful.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 26, 2013 01:20 PM (vyPsz)

118 108Is this Jantel, little trayvon's type of girl?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 05:19 PM (jE38p)

Hard to say. How many leetle bastards does she have?

Posted by: maddogg at June 26, 2013 01:21 PM (OlN4e)

119 If they cut NFL players for every little murder, how can they field a quality team? The record book would have to have asterisks all over it.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 26, 2013 01:21 PM (Hx5uv)

120 I fully support LGBT. Who doesn't love Lettuce Guacamole and Bacon on Toast. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. And it complements the salty, vinegar tang of Shumer's ball sack.

Posted by: Marco "Lying Weasel" Rubio at June 26, 2013 01:21 PM (n0B9h)

121 So? So's a concealed handgun liscense.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 05:16 PM (xZxMD)

Yep... and it should be able to cross State Lines... in fact the Libertarian position is that you should not NEED a permit, to perform a RIGHT.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2013 01:21 PM (lZBBB)

122 And, by the way, how does one insert italics, bold, etc. The icons at the top don't work for me.

I use blood sacrifice, personally. Works, but a bit messy at times. I try to keep to small animals, mostly.

Posted by: filbert at June 26, 2013 01:21 PM (7vimm)

123 Economy-killing, job-killing, party-killing legislation is just a silly flub now.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 26, 2013 01:21 PM (QLNHI)

124 Is this Jantel, little trayvon's type of girl? I thought his baby momma's name was Alopecia or Turdelle. LaTrina.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 01:21 PM (xZxMD)

125 Dayum, just hit the smoking gun to see the page on the "star" (jones) witness. She got the neckfat, yo!

Posted by: imp at June 26, 2013 01:22 PM (L9AnB)

126 113 Those ads with Rubio and Ryan are on WRKO in Boston too. I'm not sure where you are Mike Hammer. I have also heard them on Mark Levin's show when I listen live to him online. Posted by: CarolT at June 26, 2013 05:20 PM (z4WKX) I don't think Rush, Levin et al have control over them. The airtime is bought en masse through a media buying company.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:22 PM (+98Gb)

127 And, by the way, how does one insert italics, bold, etc. The icons at the top don't work for me.

Thanks for any tips. Posted by: rrpjr
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Sorry, those things only available to Premium Members

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 01:22 PM (aDwsi)

128 Disregard my 123 then.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 26, 2013 01:22 PM (QLNHI)

129 There is a term for a person like her

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Humanatee?

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 26, 2013 01:23 PM (Hx5uv)

130 I don't think Rush, Levin et al have control over them. The airtime is bought en masse through a media buying company. Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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Correct.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 01:23 PM (aDwsi)

131

I won't force churches to conduct gay weddings...

I'll just use my Supremes to do it for me...

Posted by: Barrak O and the Supremes, bringing you hit after hit! at June 26, 2013 01:23 PM (lZBBB)

132 The left wants us to go off on them so they can justify voiding the Constitution. As an emergency measure until things calm down. The strip us of our rights, and voices, and try to drive us from the public square.

Posted by: Iblis at June 26, 2013 05:09 PM (9221z)

I think you're giving the American Left too much credit. If the (now withdrawn) DHS document regarding the dangers of 'far-rightwing extremism' is any indication, what they're expecting are isolated Clinton Era-type incidents like Waco and perhaps some McVeigh-like terrorist attacks. That they would exploit such attacks for propaganda purposes is indisputable, based on their past record. That they would invoke martial law, state of emergency measures and suspend the Constitution seems (probably) a step too far, even for them.

We'll see, I guess. Meanwhile, I'll be in the garage reloading 9 mm because I can't seem to find any anywhere.

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2013 01:23 PM (vtiE6)

133 120 And it complements the salty, vinegar tang of Shumer's ball sack. Posted by: Marco "Lying Weasel" Rubio at June 26, 2013 05:21 PM (n0B9h) Wow! First Ovid now Balzac. Reason 9,455 why AOSHQ is Award-Winning...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:23 PM (+98Gb)

134 115 108 Is this Jantel, little trayvon's type of girl? Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 05:19 PM (jE38p) I thought his baby momma's name was Alopecia or Turdelle. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 05:20 PM (+98Gb) --Sure it wasn't D'Brickashawa?

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 01:23 PM (+iA5G)

135 As far as primarying Rubio and Ayotte over campaign promises-- Are we sure that the Supreme Court has said that people have the standing to do so? I mean, don't you need political class permission to challenge the political class?

Posted by: T. at June 26, 2013 01:24 PM (kvyeG)

136 Quorum Report reports that Gov. Perry had called a second special session to begin on July 1!

Posted by: Lauren at June 26, 2013 01:24 PM (wsGWu)

137 rrpjr --- Ampersands are only allowed for Platinum Members

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 01:24 PM (aDwsi)

138 104 Bolton is a big Gay Marriage Supporter Posted by: Jackj at June 26, 2013 05:18 PM (k+2tb) --Which I don't really mind. There's plenty of love for Dick Cheney here too, and he has similar views.

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 01:24 PM (+iA5G)

139 Ah shit.

He let her go.

She cares sooo much about Trechion but it's damned offensive to make her tell her story.

Anyway, she gave him the stink-eye as he was walking away--like scrunched up face, eyes and mouth and all.

She's gone from "I'm not sure it's Truckon" at deposition to "I'm certain it's Trazon. And this is bullshit you asking me why my story has changed after I admitted I met with Tramalon's attorney and told him I would do what I could to get Zimmerman arrested."

She's not terribly stupid--she plays it. And she's damned skilled at lying to adults by the tactics she's using to keep West away from the truth.

The truth is that she doesn't know who said what and there's bigger truth that she's hiding. There's something else there that she doesn't want West to get to, so she going nuclear with the juvenile shit that has worked for her in the past to get people to back off.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 2013 01:24 PM (VjL9S)

140 If we're going to get our ass kicked, I'd have preferred it be with Palin than Romney. At least let me feel like I fought for values I care about, instead of just fought against something (and lost anyway). Hopefully it's Senator Palin soon.

Posted by: Dustin at June 26, 2013 01:24 PM (0a/7L)

141 Marriage is a License... having one State not recognize the marriage of another State... flies in the face of Constitution... and a Federal Law which says they DON"T have to recognize said License, or contract, as DOMA did, is UnConstitutional. Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2013 05:14 PM (lZBBB) Under American Common law, the franchise only existed between Adults of the opposite sex. It is inapplicable to any other circumstance. If A State attempted to create marriage between a man and a goat, it would be null and void because it is an explicit violation of long held and long understood American Common law. But I don't care anymore. We should just help it burn faster, and target the burn as much as possible towards our enemies.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:24 PM (bb5+k)

142 again, since the GOP political class can't articulate conservative policies or positions, and those that can are vigorously expunged from polite society by the media, why bother?

Posted by: joeindc44 will never be convinced at June 26, 2013 01:25 PM (QxSug)

143 135 As far as primarying Rubio and Ayotte over campaign promises-- Are we sure that the Supreme Court has said that people have the standing to do so? I mean, don't you need political class permission to challenge the political class? Posted by: T. at June 26, 2013 05:24 PM (kvyeG) Don't think they aren't thinking this right now.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:25 PM (+98Gb)

144 A Palin thread after that Zimmerman epic might be too much for me.

Posted by: Jean at June 26, 2013 01:25 PM (CMlD4)

145
I don't like Dick Cheney. Never did.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 26, 2013 01:26 PM (LVtr+)

146 141 Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 05:24 PM (bb5+k) Somehow, I don't think the framers intended the Full Faith and Credit clause to allow for homo marriage.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:26 PM (+98Gb)

147 rrpjr at June 26, 2013 05:19 PM (j2MYh)
put yer html markup tags inside square brackets [...]
instead of angle brackets < > no guarantees
and make sure you close your tags properly, especially strictly properly or you get mocked without mercy. use above advice at yer own risk. price ye paid, and subject to change...yo!
break the blog and the owner gets snippy and pixe gets even.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 26, 2013 01:27 PM (sLrRH)

148 140 Hopefully it's Senator Palin soon. Posted by: Dustin at June 26, 2013 05:24 PM (0a/7L) I don't think Lisa Muzgluteski is up for reelection until 2016. Still, no time like the present to formulate a plan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:27 PM (+98Gb)

149 LaTrina. Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 05:21 PM (xZxMD) There was a girl in one of my college classes called just that. Pretty sure her parents' vocabulary must not have been all that extensive.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 26, 2013 01:28 PM (r+7wo)

150

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 05:24 PM (bb5+k)

so, when common unwritten law, disagrees with the Clear Intent of the Constitution, which is the HIGHEST Law of the Land... we go with Common Law?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2013 01:28 PM (lZBBB)

151 That means that it means the exact opposite of what it says. Whenever that's convenient, that is. Convenient for the Ruling Class, that is, not for the little people. Posted by: filbert at June 26, 2013 05:20 PM (7vimm) Some animals are more equal than others.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:28 PM (bb5+k)

152
Bolton? Walker?

These guys are as about as exciting and dynamic as a bottle of milk.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 26, 2013 01:28 PM (8dspl)

153 Somehow, I don't think the framers intended the Full Faith and Credit clause to allow for homo marriage.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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Well..., it just required 240 years, or so, to find. It was always there..., really.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 01:28 PM (aDwsi)

154 136 Quorum Report reports that Gov. Perry had called a second special session to begin on July 1! _____ Second look? Don't answer that. Perry is the only one from the last primary I will give a hard look to this time around.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2013 01:28 PM (5H6zj)

155 152 Bolton? Walker? These guys are as about as exciting and dynamic as a bottle of milk. Posted by: soothsayer at June 26, 2013 05:28 PM (8dspl) --Hmmm. How hot is Walker's wife?

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 01:29 PM (+iA5G)

156 Positive Sum?

Zero Sum?

Negative Sum.

"He who gets hurt the least wins."

Behold; those who sow the wind will reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: RiverC at June 26, 2013 01:29 PM (El+h4)

157 "I don't think Lisa Muzgluteski is up for reelection until 2016. Still, no time like the present to formulate a plan. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 05:27 PM (+98Gb)" True, but Alaska's democrat Senator is up for reelection in 2014. With Murkoblobski it's personal, due to her betrayal of the GOP primary voters, but I think picking up a dem seat would be OK in my book.

Posted by: Dustin at June 26, 2013 01:29 PM (0a/7L)

158 The Defense of marriage act always had a problem form Libertarians... but not for the same reason the Supremes killed it...

It flat out says in the Constitution that : Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.

Marriage is a License... having one State not recognize the marriage of another State... flies in the face of Constitution... and a Federal Law which says they DON"T have to recognize said License, or contract, as DOMA did, is UnConstitutional.

DOMA tried to have it both ways, by saying it was up to the States, but other States did not have to recognize it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2013 05:14 PM (lZBBB)

For the record, I don't believe the basis for DOMA take-down was the Full Faith and Credit Clause. It was based on 5A reasons.

Posted by: NSA at June 26, 2013 01:29 PM (Kkt/i)

159 There is a term for a person like her *** Humanatee? Posted by: WalrusRex at June 26, 2013 05:23 PM (Hx5uv) No it starts with belligerent.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 01:29 PM (jE38p)

160 I don't like Dick Cheney. Never did.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 26, 2013 05:26 PM (LVtr+)

I'm not a Cheney cheerleader either. He went from moderate RINO to Conservative Hero. Why I'll never know. I respect him and probably agree with him the majority of the time but he's never been a favorite.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 01:29 PM (m2CN7)

161 But I don't care anymore. We should just help it burn faster, and target the burn as much as possible towards our enemies.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 05:24 PM (bb5+k)

Oh, okay, LIB true believers: just how does one go about 'targeting the burn towards one's enemies'? 'Let It Burn' is a metaphor. Is it like that old 'I crush your head' skit on Kids In The Hall? Metaphors aren't keen on means.

That 'Let it burn' crap wears thin, especially when 'it' refers to the country I love.

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2013 01:30 PM (vtiE6)

162 This Jantel is a perfect example of what the media and the Dems love: Insults, snark, put-downs, burns and sneers but no substance.

It's all that "oooo, burn!" shit we've been talking about.

BTW: The lefties are pissed that the new TX maps--that go into effect now--will leave that Wendy bitch without a district.

Damned shame that is. Damned shame.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 2013 01:30 PM (VjL9S)

163 160 I don't like Dick Cheney. Never did. Posted by: soothsayer at June 26, 2013 05:26 PM (LVtr+) I'm not a Cheney cheerleader either. He went from moderate RINO to Conservative Hero. Why I'll never know. I respect him and probably agree with him the majority of the time but he's never been a favorite. Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 05:29 PM (m2CN7) --Same here, but Bush did more or less the same thing.

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 01:30 PM (+iA5G)

164 Rubio broke my cardinal rule, whereas Akin merely said something unhelpful. Posted by: soothsayer at June 26, 2013 05:20 PM (vyPsz) Akin said something so stupid that he should have been opposed simply on the basis that he said such a stupid thing. Anyone who has the first freakin clue about politics knows better than to say something like that, even if you believe it. He lost that election because he was too stupid to realize what you cannot say to an enemy news reporter, and Mourdock lost the election for doing the exact same thing. They may have cost us the Presidential election. They certainly motivated a lot of people to vote against Republicans nationwide. I am STILL angry with them.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:31 PM (bb5+k)

165

For the record, I don't believe the basis for DOMA take-down was the Full Faith and Credit Clause. It was based on 5A reasons.

Posted by: NSA at June 26, 2013 05:29 PM (Kkt/i)

Yup... I was speaking to the problem many Libertarians such as myself had with DOMA...

Heck... I had no problem with the Congress, who DOES make contract Law, saying a Marriage Contract within the US could only be between a Man and a Woman...

But they got cute and tried to leave it to the States, without recognizing it... which was a problem with it IMO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2013 01:32 PM (lZBBB)

166 Romeo13, FF&C did not require the recognition ofmarriages that violated a state's public policy. If a 30 year old man and a 13 year old girl were legally married in Tennesee, then Montana did not have to recognize them as married if its age of consent for marriage was a minimum of 14. That's a USSC case from way back, and I have the states wrong, I'm sure, but under FF&C no state ever had to recognize contracts in violation of its own public policy.

Posted by: imp at June 26, 2013 01:32 PM (L9AnB)

167 "THIS is why you never compromise with the Left, Rubio."

Fuck him, he's done. On the next election cycle, find a primary challenger to put against him. Appeasers and compromisers, when uncovered, should be booted at the first opportunity.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at June 26, 2013 01:33 PM (vd7A8)

168

Ampersands work with Macs, they don't show up on Windows Computers.

I'm using Windows computer now for a stupid reason or another. &&&&&, I just typed five ampersands and now they will disappear.

Posted by: CarolT at June 26, 2013 01:33 PM (z4WKX)

169 While raising money for Bill Clinton (who signed the Defense of Marriage Act) in 1992, Rahm Emanuel proclaimed Â“Gays are the next Jews of fundraising.Â” What a disgusting thing to say. Fuck him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 01:33 PM (jE38p)

170 There was a girl in one of my college classes called just that. Pretty sure her parents' vocabulary must not have been all that extensive. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 26, 2013 05:28 PM (r+7wo) My late mother taught English to the Anderson twins - Scrub and Scum. Personally, I'd rather be Scum.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:33 PM (+98Gb)

171 Primaries are good but don't weaken the winner so much that the Democrate just needs a 3 word phrase that the will end the chance of the Republican winning. And then if your guy loses and both Rubio and Ayotte win the primary don't give up on them 3 days after the primary.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at June 26, 2013 01:33 PM (I1ABg)

172 But I don't care anymore. We should just help it burn faster, and target the burn as much as possible towards our enemies. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 05:24 PM --- I have two main objections to this gay marriage stuff. The first is probably related to what you're saying about the nature of marriage as defined by Common Law. It's nonsensical to use someone's sexual appetites to wipe out the definition of marriage. I find it offensive, just as I find it offensive that the government feels empowered to redefine someone with two X chromosomes as as a man because their equipment has been changed through an operation. Have your operations and hormone therapies. Honestly, I do not care. But I'm not going to call you a man when you're a woman. Anyway, I am constantly irritated by my fellow Americans so I can live with that. The second thing, though, the one that really riles me up is that I believe this gay marriage stuff will inevitably lead to polygamy, child marriage, and every other god-damn thing that Islam promotes. As a woman, I'm scared as shit that I'll be losing my rights to these savages.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2013 01:34 PM (5H6zj)

173
I mean, don't you need political class permission to challenge the political class?
Posted by: T.

The right of the people to amend their state constitution through the initiative process has just been voided by the Supes, giving ultimate authority to the judiciary. Therefor, the right to enact laws through initiatives is gone too, and maybe the right to recall officeholders through petition.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2013 01:34 PM (kdS6q)

174 Personally, I'd rather be Scum. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 05:33 PM (+98Gb) Well we all were at one time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 01:34 PM (jE38p)

175 I see my fellow Republicans still have no interest in winning the Presidency or winning back the Senate. Problem is the folks here at HQ used to get pissed at conservatives who pushed for less electable primary challenges against politicians who agree on 99 percent of the issues but might have departed from the orthodoxy on an issue or two.

Really? Primary Rubio? Jeebus. Can't wait for the permanent Democratic majority!

Posted by: Dan at June 26, 2013 01:35 PM (Yu1vg)

176 --Which I don't really mind. There's plenty of love for Dick Cheney here too, and he has similar views. Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 05:24 PM (+iA5G) How do you feel about polygamy and necrophilia? After all, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone right this very minute, who cares about who gets hurt later down the road? Libertarians are very short sighted people.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:35 PM (bb5+k)

177 Same here, but Bush did more or less the same thing.

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 05:30 PM (+iA5G)

Well one of the reasons I don't particularly care for Cheney is that when Bush made decisions contrary to Cheney's recommendations he seemed to take it personally.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 01:35 PM (m2CN7)

178 Heck... I had no problem with the Congress, who DOES make contract Law, saying a Marriage Contract within the US could only be between a Man and a Woman... Romeo, you're way wrong. There is no federal common law. All contract cases are based on each state's common law. There is no "American common law" apart from a small body of cases dealing with territories and such. The only way a straight (ha) contract case ends up in federal court is through diversity, or if a statute grants jurisdiction over the particular kind of contract. All contracts are evaluated according to the law of the state in which it was drafted and/or signed, depending on whether there are any contract provisions, the place of performanceand such.

Posted by: imp at June 26, 2013 01:36 PM (L9AnB)

179 Okay, I love how the Yankees GM told A-Fraud to STFU. A little comedy relief.

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 01:36 PM (+iA5G)

180 52 Waldo -- Link for the trial?? Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 26, 2013 05:09 PM (aDwsi) Sorry. Just saw this and the trial is in recess. LegalInsurrection has two streaming videos. Courts back in session tomorrow at 9am EST.

Posted by: We Are All Crackas Now at June 26, 2013 01:36 PM (RZwdH)

181 Honesty candor and accountability in politics is extremis m to liberals and to be avoided at the polls. Well said.

Posted by: i like anchors at June 26, 2013 01:37 PM (ZGsAp)

182 Seriously? Our King said he would not require churches to conduct gay weddings?

Posted by: PJ at June 26, 2013 01:37 PM (ZWaLo)

183 175 Really? Primary Rubio? Jeebus. Can't wait for the permanent Democratic majority! Posted by: Dan at June 26, 2013 05:35 PM (Yu1vg) We already have one with the Cuban Comb-over and his ilk. That's the point!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 01:37 PM (+98Gb)

184 Texas Gov. Rick Perry calls for a second special session of the Texas Legislature. Per NBCDFW dot com.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 01:37 PM (xZxMD)

185 Really? I'm on a Windows 7 box right now. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Posted by: © Sponge at June 26, 2013 01:38 PM (xmcEQ)

186 Seriously? Our King said he would not require churches to conduct gay weddings? Posted by: PJ at June 26, 2013 05:37 PM (ZWaLo) Well to be fair, he said he could not

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2013 01:38 PM (jE38p)

187 Ampersands work with Macs, they don't show up on Windows Computers. I'm using Windows computer now for a stupid reason or another. , I just typed five ampersands and now they will disappear. Because Safari doesn't recognize live-scripting. If you turn off scripting from minx.cc with noscript, or globally if you are on IE, then the & will reappear.

Posted by: toby928© at June 26, 2013 01:38 PM (QupBk)

188 Since we are probably going to lose, via vote fraud, NSA secrets/blackmailing, media, etc., then I will go with anyone who will turn both barrels on the dems and make them defend their position.

I mean ads on every channel calling the dems liars and traitors. Ads which explain Benghazi and the IRS.

Go after them with everything you can.

No quarter.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 26, 2013 01:39 PM (GoIUi)

189 141 Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 05:24 PM (bb5+k) Somehow, I don't think the framers intended the Full Faith and Credit clause to allow for homo marriage. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2013 05:26 PM (+98Gb) It is my understanding that Homosexuality was a capital offense in 1787. They executed you if you were caught at it, so yeah, I'm thinking they wouldn't have permitted homosexual marriage. Thomas Jefferson introduced legislation in Virginia to change the penalty from execution to castration.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:39 PM (bb5+k)

190 How do you feel about polygamy and necrophilia? After all, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone right this very minute, who cares about who gets hurt later down the road? Libertarians are very short sighted people. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 05:35 PM (bb5+k) --I would not call myself a libertarian (not even small-L), but my point is about the politics, not the actual issue. If Scott Walker admitted he's iffy on the marriage thing, I would still vote for him over the Democrat, even if said Democrat were 100% against gay marriage (because I know he'd be lying).

Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 01:40 PM (+iA5G)

191 Because Safari doesn't recognize live-scripting. If you turn off scripting from minx.cc with noscript, or globally if you are on IE, then the & will reappear. Posted by: toby928Â© at June 26, 2013 05:38 PM (QupBk) No way man......Mac's RULE!!!! It's Windows fucking you man...... You're WRONG!!!!

Posted by: Douchebag Apple User at June 26, 2013 01:40 PM (xmcEQ)

192 Someone's reading your emails! Who is? Democrats!

Posted by: toby928© rants populist at June 26, 2013 01:40 PM (QupBk)

193 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Works fine on an android smart phone.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 01:41 PM (xZxMD)

194 They may have cost us the Presidential election. They certainly motivated a lot of people to vote against Republicans nationwide.

I am STILL angry with them.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 05:31 PM (bb5+k)

Really? Romney's dogshit campaign and general unpopularity with the majority of voters had nothing to do with it?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 26, 2013 01:42 PM (ZsghO)

195 149 LaTrina.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2013 05:21 PM (xZxMD)

There was a girl in one of my college classes called just that. Pretty sure her parents' vocabulary must not have been all that extensive.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 26, 2013 05:28 PM (r+7wo)

Liked swimming, diving, and other watersports, no?

Posted by: asalto platija at June 26, 2013 01:42 PM (Kkt/i)

196 so, when common unwritten law, disagrees with the Clear Intent of the Constitution, which is the HIGHEST Law of the Land... we go with Common Law? Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2013 05:28 PM (lZBBB) You have it wrong. The Constitution does NOT disagree with common law. The Constitution is based on Common law principles with which it cannot be in disagreement. That marriage is explicitly restricted to only a man and a woman is one such principle. The Full Faith and Credit principle does not apply to concepts outside the common understanding of the law. In a like manner, the American Common law principle regarding the voting franchise is that it is explicitly limited to citizens. It isn't written down because it is so obvious and self evident that it is unnecessary to explicitly state such.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:43 PM (bb5+k)

197 WW2 Tweets from 1941 ‏@RealTimeWWII 1h What few Soviet planes remain are "retaliating" for invasions, bombing Helsinki, Warsaw & bizarrely, town of Kassa in still-neutral Hungary.

Posted by: toby928© at June 26, 2013 01:44 PM (QupBk)

198 >>Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 05:40 PM I'm the same way. For example, I am a non-exceptions completely hard-line pro-lifer, but I will not toss an otherwise excellent candidate if s/he is wobbly on it. (If they pimp for abortion on demand and the sort of shit Obama endorses, that's a different matter.) That said, I have my non-negotiable issues. This amnesty stuff, which Rubio injected (rather unhelpfully) into the 2012 POTUS campaign, is one of them. He owns this monstrosity which is not only politically damaging to conservatives but, more importantly, disastrous for working Americans and in the rule of law.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2013 01:45 PM (5H6zj)

199 Perry is the only one from the last primary I will give a hard look to this time around. Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2013 05:28 PM (5H6zj) Agreed. I like how he thinks the proper course of action is to shove it up those Democrat asses and break it off.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:45 PM (bb5+k)

200 "Four candidates endorsed by Governor Palin in the upcoming 2010 elections have made Time MagazineÂ’s top 40 under 40 list in their "new civic leaders" category. These candidates include Sean Duffy, Nikki Haley, Adam Kinzinger, and Marco Rubio." http://tinyurl.com/ognapgu

"Republican vice presidential nominee and ex-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on
Monday simultaneously endorsed GOP Senate hopeful Kelly Ayotte of Nashua
and slapped around AyotteÂ’s two main rivals for the job."
http://tinyurl.com/33jd85r

Sort of reminds you when moms or dads say kiddingly to their progeny: "I put you into this world I can take you out of it too" or something like that. You get the drift. Sarah Palin doesn't like to be wrong. She was. Expect to see recall campaigns for both these folks.

Posted by: caustic at June 26, 2013 01:45 PM (/b8+5)

201 Yup... I was speaking to the problem many Libertarians such as myself had with DOMA...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2013 05:32 PM (lZBBB)

Yeah, sorry. I was living the AoS lifestyle and still asleep at the keyboard.

Posted by: asalto platija at June 26, 2013 01:45 PM (Kkt/i)

202 That 'Let it burn' crap wears thin, especially when 'it' refers to the country I love. Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2013 05:30 PM (vtiE6) I can't speak for you, but the "Country I love" is not a geographical area, or a collection of specific people, it is a set of principles which I believe are necessary for a fair and just governance of a society. As for how to push the flames in the direction of the enemy, I have plenty of suggestions, but none of which I feel comfortable discussing on an open forum.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:48 PM (bb5+k)

203 Peaches is an apple user and continuously laments about being unable to use & on her computer.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 26, 2013 01:50 PM (dVVAB)

204 --Same here, but Bush did more or less the same thing. Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 05:30 PM (+iA5G) I am very angry with both Bushes. By pretending to be conservatives while behaving as moderates and liberals, they have damaged our brand and our society simultaneously, and in a far worse manner than could have a Democrat. I point the finger at them for creating the conditions that led to the rise of the current crop of Nationals Socialists.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:50 PM (bb5+k)

205 Palin: "Â“I think every politician should be held accountable for breaking their campaign promise,Â” she said. Â“Kelly Ayotte, bless her heart, she had on her website as a candidate that her top immigration priority would be to secure the border. Â‘No excusesÂ’ is her quote, Â‘no excuses.Â’ " (dailycaller.com 6/26/13).

Posted by: mrp at June 26, 2013 01:52 PM (HjPtV)

206 I wish I could make Feinstein &/ Pelosi go away.

And I sold my Apple stock.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 26, 2013 01:52 PM (pgQxn)

207 I think the ampersand thing is browser dependent. IIRC I lost the ability when I switched browsers. &

Posted by: Y-not on Safari at June 26, 2013 01:52 PM (5H6zj)

208 Shit. It's back! Yay! &&&&&&&&&&&&

Posted by: Y-not on Safari at June 26, 2013 01:52 PM (5H6zj)

209 New thread.

Also, test &

Posted by: Y-not using Firefox at June 26, 2013 01:54 PM (5H6zj)

210 I will vote against in the primary AND the general.

Posted by: Big Ben at June 26, 2013 01:55 PM (I5Htn)

211 The second thing, though, the one that really riles me up is that I believe this gay marriage stuff will inevitably lead to polygamy, child marriage, and every other god-damn thing that Islam promotes. As a woman, I'm scared as shit that I'll be losing my rights to these savages. Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2013 05:34 PM (5H6zj) A point I often make is this: They don't want "Gay Marriage" they want an incremental movement in the direction of normalized debauchery. "Gay Marriage" is just a momentary ratchet lock in the movement towards far worse things.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 01:56 PM (bb5+k)

212

Don't confuse moderate Republicans with RINOs. There's a difference. The Republican Party has two wings: conservatives and moderates, both of which adhere to certain common Republican first principles, including a strong national defense, a less-is-better approach to governance, and an adversarial relationship to the socialist weasels known as Democrats. A good example of a conservative Republican would be, say, Ted Cruz. A good example of a moderate Republican would be, oh I don't know, Mitch McConnell. An excellent example of a RINO would be John McCain.

Cheney is conservative on some issues, moderate on others--particularly gay marriage, probably since one of his daughters is gay. He also believes in shooting humans in the face while hunting and has a penis comparable in size to that of the blue whale's, which puts him in the Chuck Norris subcategory of Republicanism.

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2013 01:58 PM (vtiE6)

213

Perry is the only one from the last primary I will give a hard look to this time around.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2013 05:28 PM (5H6zj)

Your amnesty non-negotiable doesn't seem to be too set in stone. Since I don't believe you are heartless and also probably not too keen on any type of Dream Act.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 01:58 PM (m2CN7)

214 Your amnesty non-negotiable doesn't seem to be tooset in stone. Since I don't believe you are heartless and also probably not too keen on any type of Dream Act. --- Keep fucking that chicken.

Posted by: Y-not on Safari at June 26, 2013 02:00 PM (5H6zj)

215

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2013 05:58 PM (vtiE6)

Cheney was voted as one of the most liked Republicans by Democrats when he was in the House.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 02:00 PM (m2CN7)

216 Keep fucking that chicken.

Posted by: Y-not on Safari at June 26, 2013 06:00 PM (5H6zj)

Aw look who doesn't like to be called on her inconsistencies.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 02:01 PM (m2CN7)

217 Cheney was voted as one of the most liked Republicans by Democrats when he was in the House.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 06:00 PM (m2CN7)

Sorry, but I can't help but like and admire the guy. Further, Democrats were still traditional Democrats when Cheney was in the House. Since then, the leadership of the Democratic Party has been suborned by hardcore Marxists, the children of Alinsky and the students of Ayers and Dorn. I'm even old enough to remember a time when Democrats actively opposed communist aggression.

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2013 02:04 PM (vtiE6)

218 There is no federal common law. All contract cases are based on each state's common law. There is no "American common law" apart from a small body of cases dealing with territories and such. The only way a straight (ha) contract case ends up in federal court is through diversity, or if a statute grants jurisdiction over the particular kind of contract. All contracts are evaluated according to the law of the state in which it was drafted and/or signed, depending on whether there are any contract provisions, the place of performanceand such. Posted by: imp at June 26, 2013 05:36 PM (L9AnB) I disagree. There *IS* an American Common law, and it is made up of various unwritten concepts and principles that embody the greater aspect of natural law. The first American Common law principle was the right of expatriation. Those aspects of English common law which were not explicitly rejected, were also made part of American common law. I have done much studying of the principles of natural law which led to the founding of this nation, and I can point you to quite a lot of sources for the principles adopted by the American Nation, though they are not explicitly written out in statute. Grotius, Locke, Puffendorf, Vattel, Bynkershoek, et al were all studied in the run up to our Constitutional convention, and many of the principles we adopted as a new nation were based on their arguments and observations.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 02:04 PM (bb5+k)

219 Go after them with everything you can. No quarter. Posted by: Miss Marple at June 26, 2013 05:39 PM (GoIUi) We can't afford the Air time, which they would give to the Democrats for free. I've always wondered why we couldn't sue the media on the basis of not filing in-kind campaign disclosure forms for their Democrat advocacy.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 02:07 PM (bb5+k)

220 --I would not call myself a libertarian (not even small-L), but my point is about the politics, not the actual issue. If Scott Walker admitted he's iffy on the marriage thing, I would still vote for him over the Democrat, even if said Democrat were 100% against gay marriage (because I know he'd be lying). Posted by: logprof at June 26, 2013 05:40 PM (+iA5G) Okay, I have a better understanding of your position. It's not that you favor it, it's that you weigh priorities, and this isn't the most significant thing we are facing.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 02:09 PM (bb5+k)

221

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2013 06:04 PM (vtiE6)

They had the same opinion of him when he was in the Reagan administration. It was not until he became the VP that he was he transformed into this Conservative stalwart. I don't dislike Cheney and like I said , agree with most of his positions as I do with most on the right side, but he is not the conservative god that most here have made him.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 02:10 PM (m2CN7)

222 Really? Romney's dogshit campaign and general unpopularity with the majority of voters had nothing to do with it? Posted by: Captain Hate at June 26, 2013 05:42 PM (ZsghO) Of course it did, but he might have won anyways if Akin and Mourdock hadn't given the enemy ammunition to fire at all of us. Beyond that, i'm not sure Romney Lost. I'm perfectly willing to accept Democrat cheating in Urban areas as the cause of our declared loss. Again, a wind up toy monkey should have been able to beat Obama. I don't think he could have won but by cheating.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 02:11 PM (bb5+k)

223 @222: The IRS won in 2012. President Asterisk.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 26, 2013 02:13 PM (OevbG)

224 Of course it did, but he might have won anyways if Akin and Mourdock hadn't given the enemy ammunition to fire at all of us. If it wasn't them it would have been someone else, or the MFM would have just made something up. Binders anyone?

Posted by: toby928© with screwed up eyes and screwed down hairdo Like some cat from japan at June 26, 2013 02:27 PM (QupBk)

225 I don't dislike Cheney and like I said , agree with most of his positions as I do with most on the right side, but he is not the conservative god that most here have made him.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2013 06:10 PM (m2CN7)

Again: I don't think anyone is going around claiming Dick Cheney is a paragon of conservative principles. I do, however, think he's admired for being a smart, no-bullshit, old-school Republican. You can say he isn't conservative, and I think he would agree. You cannot say, however, that he's a RINO. Seems to me that some conservatives don't understand the distinction, which is a shame.

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2013 02:27 PM (vtiE6)

226 I don't think he could have won but by cheating.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 26, 2013 06:11 PM (bb5+k)

I simply don't understand why Priebus and (especially) Romney and his people didn't press the issue. When Philly comes up with 120% of the voters in a given district voting for Obama 100% of the time, seems to me the GOP should've been all over it, but they weren't. They could've at least publicized the rampant cheating and--in some instances--voter suppression going on, especially when it came to the tardy processing and subsequent disqualification of hundreds and possibly thousands of military ballots.

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2013 02:31 PM (vtiE6)

227 I contacted the Ohio GOP and told them about some precincts in Cleveland that went 100% for the JEF and told them it just defied logic that either by mistake or somebody being a contrarian that you'd have results like that. They replied with some namby pamby bullshit that made it clear they had no willingness to scrutinize things. At that point I realized they were all a bunch of nutless twats who don't deserve the support of anybody who cares about freedom.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 26, 2013 02:45 PM (NG1GO)

228 I heard Mark Levin agree with a caller the other night when she suggested the GOP needed to be burned down over amnesty, broken away from, and never supported again. Fucking idiots.

I heard Rush Limbaugh say something eerily to the effect of, "Hey Marco Rubio, nice career you've got there. If I let you keep it." Right after saying Rubio was the best person at articulating conservative values he had seen in years.

And now Sarah Palin, bless her heart, who quit her job as governor and has demurred from calls she run for higher office, is threatening to primary Rubio with some other TP candidate.

All because they believe someone who hasn't sold them out (at least not yet) is going to. Sometime soon. Reality check, people.

The fucking assholes who failed to support the GOP because they didn't like Tom DeLay or Mark Foley made Nancy Pelosi Speaker of the House. Pricks who hated McCain being a squish or an amnesty advocate put the SCOAMF in the oval office.

Stop this shit. The Democrats are who we are supposed to be plotting for defeat. We used to stiff the GOP after they screwed us. Now we want to do it before they do.

Posted by: CausticConservative at June 26, 2013 04:18 PM (gT3jF)

229 Remember an interview with Rubio. There is some question of his history that he himself admitted. But according to wiki, his parents became citizens in 1975 and he was born in 1971. Someone must have told him that he's ineligible to be president. But they are saying he's putting his plans on hold in favor of Jeb.

Ergo, he has to satisfy his constituents and so he flipped.

Posted by: caustic at June 26, 2013 06:11 PM (/b8+5)

230 And now Sarah Palin, bless her heart, who quit her job as governor and has demurred from calls she run for higher office, is threatening to primary Rubio with some other TP candidate.

Posted by: CausticConservative at June 26, 2013 08:18 PM (gT3jF)

Did you ever bother to read why Sarah Palin resigned as governor? She and her husband were being plagued with nuisance suits by Democratic Party operatives--bogus lawsuits claiming that she had violated obscure ethics provisions and--because of the nature of the suits--obligated her to respond. The state of Alaska does not cover such legal expenses and the litigation, no matter how frivolous or unfounded, would've bankrupted her.

So fuck you.

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2013 07:24 PM (ptcFO)

231 She's right. There's something worse than an ineffective attempt to punish traitors and that's not trying at all.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at June 26, 2013 07:39 PM (/+EhN)

232 CausticConservative, I agree with you. Who in the hell, when the country is going down the tubes, thinks the smart thing to do is take aim on our own soldiers.

Posted by: Coleridge at June 26, 2013 09:20 PM (BglJL)

233 I understand full well the reasons why Palin left her governor's chair. But the reason why she didn't run for office in 2012 is the same reason why guys like Hannity and Limbaugh never have. They like it never having to take half a loaf, being "true" conservatives, while everyone else is some kind of RINO.

They know that if they were in office, they couldn't hold those positions for long.

Posted by: CausticConservative at June 27, 2013 04:35 AM (gT3jF)

234 Rubio is not taking half a loaf on mass immigration. He is on the wrong side. That's why he needs to be gone.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at June 27, 2013 07:28 AM (/+EhN)

235 campaign promises??? this from a gov who quit the job she was elected to do?

Posted by: occam at June 27, 2013 12:04 PM (fbUla)

236 CausticConservative, what a joke.

Yes, Hannity and Limbaugh have never held public service. But both carry the water for the GOP when push comes to shove.

But Palin has held office as a town councilor, mayor, oil and gas commissioner, and governor. And at every level, she has never carried the water for the GOP when what they are doing is wrong.

Who knows if she'll run again?

But she did more to get GOP candidates in office in 2010 and 2012 than Hannity, Limbaugh, or the GOP itself did. And now she's holding those whom she helped accountable. Good for her. She has every right to.

I'm looking forward to what she does in 2014.

http://tinyurl.com/l53b35x

Posted by: hrh at June 27, 2013 12:07 PM (ozqyE)

237 NH is going Blue. FL also. If you definitely want to lose those 2 states run a strong conservative.

Posted by: occam at June 27, 2013 12:11 PM (4+lE0)

238 Gee I wonder where Florida could find a conservative with Nation WIDE appeal that would challenge and defeat el-rubi-eski?

Paging Allen West!!!

Colonel West, please pick up the WHITE courtesy phone!!!!

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at June 27, 2013 01:40 PM (3zW8P)

239 "The Orthodox remember. The Muslims were like, oh, we won't stop you from worshiping!

(as long as...)

1. We can steal your young men for soldiers"

Can you spell janissaries?

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at June 27, 2013 01:45 PM (3zW8P)

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