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December 12, 2013

Party and pillage at unoccupied mansion coordinated on social media
— Purple Avenger

The latest incident of teens busting in and partying while the owners are out of town

A mounted snow leopard worth more than $250,000, pieces of armor and designer clothes were among the items recovered by sheriffÂ’s detectives investigating a party planned over social media and held, without the owner's knowledge, at a vacant, multimillion-dollar La Habra Heights mansion.
[Updated at 7:21 p.m., Dec. 11: Early Wednesday, 16 people were arrested in connection with the vandalism and robbery that occurred at the home in late November, Lt. Arthur Scott of the Los Angeles County SheriffÂ’s Department said....

About 300 teenagers are realizing they picked the wrong place to throw a wild party after breaking into a former NFL player's second home and causing more than $20,000 in damage.
Brian Holloway, a former offensive tackle for the New England Patriots, was in Tampa, Florida, over Labor Day weekend when his son told him he was receiving tweets about a party at their home in Stephentown, New York, Holloway said...

Open thread

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1 Uno

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 12, 2013 07:49 AM (DL2i+)

2 Animals

Posted by: RioBravo at December 12, 2013 07:50 AM (eEfYn)

3 Because at the rate the GOP is going I expect to have to gay marry a Mexican or be deported by the time the 2014 midterms come around.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 12, 2013 07:50 AM (DL2i+)

4 mmm, that new thread smell!

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 12, 2013 07:51 AM (naUcP)

5 You're welcome.

Posted by: Irresponsible parents everywhere at December 12, 2013 07:51 AM (NXg/k)

6 Occupy Your House

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 12, 2013 07:51 AM (A7zvX)

7 The barbarians are inside the wire.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 12, 2013 07:51 AM (UVadJ)

8 Well there's no respect for the rule of law, so why should we expect any respect for private property?

*fume*

Posted by: Nighthawk at December 12, 2013 07:51 AM (OtQXp)

9 I feel like I'm living "The Last Days of Pompeii...."

Posted by: backhoe at December 12, 2013 07:52 AM (ULH4o)

10 The Kulaks had it coming.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 12, 2013 07:52 AM (A7zvX)

11 Solution: Robot caretakers with frickin' lasers on their heads.

Posted by: joncelli at December 12, 2013 07:52 AM (RD7QR)

12 Prosecute the little darlings. And if it follows them through their lives, ruining their prospects, then that is just too darn bad.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 12, 2013 07:53 AM (hLRSq)

13 The owners not have security at their house? Motion detector? Vertical deadbolts? Sharks with lasers on their heads?

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 07:53 AM (GQ8sn)

I'm sure the defense lawyers will blame the parents for letting their kids to grow up to be bad little shits. Kids will walk and the parents will just be a little lighter in the wallet.

Forward!

Posted by: MacGruber at December 12, 2013 07:53 AM (sWgE+)

15 During the Burning Times, people won't leave their homes.
So this sort of thing won't happen... soon enough.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at December 12, 2013 07:54 AM (JSmUP)

16 Looking at long range weather forecasts for Christmas to New Years. Cold, colder, and record-breaking cold is headed our way, straight from Siberia.

Posted by: Weather Geek and AGW Denier[/i] at December 12, 2013 07:54 AM (/KGrg)

17 They were just redistributing the one-percenter's goods to themselves.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 12, 2013 07:54 AM (7ObY1)

It's only fair that millionaire and billionaire mansion owners share the wealth with the poor, disaffected, disenfranshised youths.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 12, 2013 07:55 AM (DrWcr)

19 In the case of the NFL player, the parents of the felonious little snowflakes were threatening to sue him because he outed their kids' bad behavior on social media. That right there is all you need to know. "How DARE you name my little darling online for what he did to your home. You've damaged his reputation for life!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2013 07:55 AM (4df7R)

20 You didn't earn that mansion!

Posted by: teh Wind at December 12, 2013 07:55 AM (B3WUC)

21 Solution: Robot caretakers with frickin' lasers on their heads. Exactly. Bodies left. Consequences proven. Bad behavior declines.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2013 07:55 AM (FNtJ6)

22 16 Looking at long range weather forecasts for Christmas to New Years. Cold, colder, and record-breaking cold is headed our way, straight from Siberia.

Posted by: Weather Geek and AGW Denier at December 12, 2013 11:54 AM (/KGrg)

It's almost as if weather and climate were both cyclical...

Posted by: joncelli at December 12, 2013 07:56 AM (RD7QR)

23 I had a coworker who conned me into house sitting. She lived in Bel Air. They were always so appreciative now I know why.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 07:56 AM (h4eud)

24 This happened to me once. It's getting so if a man wants to own six homes he's got to keep all six of them in Aspen.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 12, 2013 07:56 AM (F3nFt)

25 It's so freakin' COLD out! The tree sparrows that live in our office crab-apple tree love it, scampering around in the snow. Those tough little cheep-heads seem to like it better the colder it gets. Wish I could be like them. Except for the eating worms part.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 12, 2013 07:56 AM (7ObY1)

26 OK, who mounted the snow leopard?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 12, 2013 07:56 AM (O3C36)

27 Probably the fault of these kids' parents.

Posted by: DangerGirl at December 12, 2013 07:57 AM (k/Mc/)

28 Exactly. Bodies left. Consequences proven. Bad behavior declines.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2013 11:55 AM (FNtJ6)

A pyramid of skulls at the end of the driveway is the latest in landscaping details.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 12, 2013 07:57 AM (hLRSq)

29 I had a coworker who conned me into house sitting. She lived in Bel Air. They were always so appreciative now I know why.

Did you throw a Cory Feldman-esque party complete with nasty looking hookers and $50 entrance fee?

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 07:57 AM (GQ8sn)

30 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 12, 2013 11:55 AM (4df7R) The sad thing is, I can see a world where they win that lawsuit

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 12, 2013 07:57 AM (GaqMa)

The tree sparrows that live in our office crab-apple tree love it, scampering around in the snow. Those tough little cheep-heads seem to like it better the colder it gets.

Wish I could be like them.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 12, 2013 11:56 AM (7ObY1)

It'd definitely be nice to be able to fluff up my feathers and hunker down over my feet to keep warm instead of having to buy a shitload of expensive cold weather gear.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2013 07:57 AM (4df7R)

32 I'm sure the defense lawyers will blame the parents for letting their kids to grow up to be bad little shits. Kids will walk and the parents will just be a little lighter in the wallet.
Forward!

Posted by: MacGruber at December 12, 2013 11:53 AM (sWgE+)

Of course, especially if they're rich. That's apparently a defense all the way up to DUI and vehicular manslaughter.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 07:58 AM (DrWcr)

33 Love the football player. He'll end up being the best parent those kids (well, the one kid who showed up) ever had.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2013 07:58 AM (FcR7P)

34 26 OK, who mounted the snow leopard?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 12, 2013 11:56 AM (O3C36)

Look, I was drunk, okay?

(Wait, what was the question?)

Posted by: Typical Moron at December 12, 2013 07:58 AM (RD7QR)

35 OK, who mounted the snow leopard?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 12, 2013 11:56 AM (O3C36)

In their defense, the snow leopard WAS being a saucy little tease.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2013 07:58 AM (4df7R)

36 OK, who mounted the snow leopard?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 12, 2013 11:56 AM (O3C36)

Better him than me.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 12, 2013 07:58 AM (DrWcr)

37 25 It's so freakin' COLD out! The tree sparrows that live in our office crab-apple tree love it, scampering around in the snow. Those tough little cheep-heads seem to like it better the colder it gets. Wish I could be like them. Except for the eating worms part. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 12, 2013 11:56 AM (7ObY1) If snow covers crap apples on the ground, they ferment. The birds eat them and get drunk off their asses. I discovered this when I found a whole bunch of them on the ground sqwuaking away. I saw the crab apples and tasted one. Booze. Bet they had hang over.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 07:59 AM (h4eud)

38 In their defense, the snow leopard WAS being a saucy little tease.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 12, 2013 11:58 AM (4df7R)

It was wearing a snow leopard pattern bra and panties.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 07:59 AM (GQ8sn)

39 Private property is raaaaacist.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2013 07:59 AM (B/VB5)

40 9 I feel like I'm living "The Last Days of Pompeii...."

Posted by: backhoe at December 12, 2013 11:52 AM (ULH4o)

Pompeii at least has the excuse that they didn't do it to themselves.

Posted by: buzzion at December 12, 2013 07:59 AM (LI48c)

41 10 The Kulaks had it coming. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 12, 2013 11:52 AM (A7zvX) ----------------- I am quite certain it's not long before our betters in the government will divide our homes up into separate apartments ala Dr. Zhivago. After all, nobody really needs that much space to live. I hope my family gets to live on our top floor - at least the master bath floor is heated.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at December 12, 2013 07:59 AM (7Y+gf)

42 A pyramid of skulls at the end of the driveway is the latest in landscaping details. Heads on pikes spaced at appropriate intervals around the perimeter.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2013 07:59 AM (FNtJ6)

43 21 Solution: Robot caretakers with frickin' lasers on their heads. --------------------- Roombas with guns.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 12, 2013 07:59 AM (A7zvX)

44 "Solution: Robot caretakers with frickin' lasers on their heads."

The family of a guy I have met socially a few times own something like six houses.

One of them is in an area where this sort of social media bust-in has become endemic, and where the local law enforcement have basically quit trying to do anything other than passive, ineffectual "security theater".

So the guy who they found to live in that house to keep an eye on things is a no-nonsense veteran who has a personal arsenal sufficient to see off even the most determined mob.

I find myself half-hoping that the kids will try him on for size. They will speedily learn that not everyone is a pushover.

If I'm remembering his gun collection properly, this is one of the few people I have met who own a 10-gauge shotgun. I'm imagining the sound of a 10-gauge being fired over the heads of the party mob. And then the faint liquid gurgle of two hundred pairs of pants being pissed in unison.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 12, 2013 07:59 AM (gqT4g)

45 I suspect that they inherited the snow leopard.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 08:00 AM (h4eud)

46 It's just another case of Affluenza.

One of those kids drives home drunk, kills four, no problem.

Posted by: scottst at December 12, 2013 08:00 AM (24FsT)

47 Party at Purp's place!

Spread the word.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2013 08:00 AM (wNF3N)

48 If snow covers crap apples on the ground, they ferment. The birds eat them and get drunk off their asses. I discovered this when I found a whole bunch of them on the ground sqwuaking away. I saw the crab apples and tasted one. Booze. Bet they had hang over.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 11:59 AM (h4eud)

Have you ever seen a drunk squirrel? Fricking hilarious. You get a few reports about them every year after Halloween, when the little tree rats are eating the fermeted pumpkins people have left on their doorsteps.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2013 08:00 AM (4df7R)

49 So, do you see why we mansion owners are always upset with poor people? You just can't have nice things with them around.

Posted by: jwest at December 12, 2013 08:00 AM (u2a4R)

50 from Gateway Pundit (hope it come out right):
The 40 Best Conservative Websites of 2013
40) The Black Sphere
39) The Campaign Spot
3

Clash Daily
37) Rare
36) Moonbattery
35) Liberal Logic 101
34) Joe For America
33) Pat Dollard
32) Althouse
31) Naked DC
30) The Tea Party News Network
29) Jammie Wearing Fools
2

Lucianne
27) Life News
26) Legal Insurrection
25) Cybercast News Service
24) Redstate
23) The Washington Examiner
22) Newsmax
21) Front Page Magazine
20) Michelle Malkin
19) The American Spectator
1

PJ Media
17) Newsbusters
16) National Review
15) Twitchy
14) Mr. Conservative
13) The Corner
12) BizPac Review
11) Weasel Zippers
10) The Daily Caller
9) Breitbart

Ace of Spades HQ
7) Instapundit
6) Fox News
5) Real Clear Politics
4) The Blaze
3) Hot Air
2) The Gateway Pundit
1) The Drudge Report

Posted by: Mallfly at December 12, 2013 08:00 AM (bJm7W)

51 OK, who mounted the snow leopard?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 12, 2013 11:56 AM (O3C36)
============

Claude Balz

Posted by: Nighthawk at December 12, 2013 08:01 AM (OtQXp)

52 Everyone knows leopard skin is a come-on.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at December 12, 2013 08:01 AM (A0sHn)

53 funny about the right and the parenthesis...

Posted by: Mallfly at December 12, 2013 08:01 AM (bJm7W)

54 >>>Party at Purp's place! ------------------ Just keep away from the stuffed weasel.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 12, 2013 08:01 AM (A7zvX)

55 Isn't a Pompeii miniseries in the works? I think some of the actors from GOT are in it.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 08:02 AM (h4eud)

56 Isn't a Pompeii miniseries in the works? I think some of the actors from GOT are in it.

Sean Bean dies in the first episode.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 08:02 AM (GQ8sn)

57 I saw The Black Sphere open for Astra, San Diego, 2011.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 12, 2013 08:02 AM (7ObY1)

58 Misunderstood yoots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 12, 2013 08:03 AM (t3UFN)

59 Sean Bean dies in the first episode. Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 12:02 PM (GQ8sn) That's a Myth.... Sean Bean does NOT die in everything....

Posted by: Col. Richard Sharpe at December 12, 2013 08:03 AM (lZBBB)

60 If snow covers crap apples on the ground, they ferment. The birds eat them and get drunk off their asses. I discovered this when I found a whole bunch of them on the ground sqwuaking away. I saw the crab apples and tasted one. Booze. Bet they had hang over. That explains the scampering!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 12, 2013 08:04 AM (7ObY1)

61 Althouse is a conservative site?

Posted by: joncelli at December 12, 2013 08:04 AM (RD7QR)

62 Just like the flash gangs hitting stores and striping shelves this kind of shit will continue until the damn urban authorities decide that they need to make some examples.

In this case what we have is felony grand theft and property damage. Send them ALL to jail for about 10 years and hit them with restitution.

That goes for these assholes and the "knock out game" too. Get some Class 1 assault and battery charges. Then it won't be a "game" anymore when they get in the FMIA hotel.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 12, 2013 08:04 AM (T2V/1)

63 32) Althouse

Althouse is conservative? Considering she still goes into screechy LFG censorship mode any time anyone suggests that womyn are not a superior life form that's pretty something.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2013 08:04 AM (B/VB5)

64 Have you ever seen a drunk squirrel? They just had drunk parrots in Australia on Animal Planet. One faceplanted while walking. Kept walking. Beak started a plow furrow.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2013 08:04 AM (FNtJ6)

65 The parents never taught these kids consequences, so I say they should go free!

Posted by: Judge Jean Boyd at December 12, 2013 08:04 AM (+H/11)

66 That's it - I'm never eating crap apples again.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 12, 2013 08:05 AM (O3C36)

67 The ex "flipped" from a "choices have consequences" (my way) way of raising her son to "he's just being a teenager" excuse making for him. Was bad for him and killed our marriage.

Posted by: teej at December 12, 2013 08:05 AM (M7Cfv)

68 49 So, do you see why we mansion owners are always upset with poor people? You just can't have nice things with them around. --- That, or I steal them.

Posted by: Carol aka Cheryl, Krystal, Carin at December 12, 2013 08:05 AM (/Crba)

A snow leopard walks into a bar and orders shots of tequila.

The bartender says , " shots of tequila? I've never seen you order anything but shots of jagermeisster. I guess a leopard can change its shots. "

Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2013 08:06 AM (m2CN7)

70 You have homeowner's insurance to cover the damage. How dare you come after this special little snowflake and expect him to pay for his crime? His parents don't even make him keep his room clean. This is just too big of a leap from no responsibility to accepting the consequences of his actions. He was never taught him right from wrong. Show some leniency. How about he goes to rehab in SoCal for a year?

Posted by: Little Johnny's Defense Attorney at December 12, 2013 08:06 AM (HsJeN)

71 Government intrusion threatens business, chapter MMXIII:

http://tinyurl.com/p7avwoj

Sriracha hot sauce manufacturer Huy Fong Foods cannot ship out any more sauce until mid-January because the California Department of Public Health has begun enforcing stricter guidelines for the company.

Their three sauces, Sriracha, Chili Garlic and Sambal Oelek, now must be held for at least 30 days before they can be shipped to food distributors and wholesalers, the company confirmed Wednesday. It's not clear whether the hold is a new requirement. The Department of Public Health did not respond to requests for comment on Tuesday or Wednesday.

Posted by: scottst at December 12, 2013 08:06 AM (24FsT)

72 Sorry to go OT before 100, but can't stick around. If you haven't seen this pic, you must: http://tinyurl.com/ltqdkgn I'm volunteering for Ted's campaign immediately. Apologies if someone has already noted it. Have good day!

Posted by: JQP at December 12, 2013 08:06 AM (U4GjV)

73 Isn't a Pompeii miniseries in the works? I think some of the actors from GOT are in it.

Spoiler: I win.

Posted by: Mt. Vesuvius at December 12, 2013 08:06 AM (SY2Kh)

74 funny about the right and the parenthesis... Appears to be an 8 & ).

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2013 08:06 AM (FNtJ6)

75 JOHN BOEHNER IS A TRANSGENDERED LESBIAN. DISCUSS.

Posted by: FUBAR at December 12, 2013 08:06 AM (Cs2tJ)

76 That's a Myth.... Sean Bean does NOT die in everything.... --- It's still considered a spoiler when he DOESN'T die.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 12, 2013 08:06 AM (/Crba)

77 We never had this kind of problem at Stately Wayne Mansion.

Posted by: Alfred at December 12, 2013 08:07 AM (A7zvX)

78 Pompeii (2014) Action | Adventure | Drama - 21 February 2014 (USA) Not yet released (voting begins after release) A slave turned gladiator finds himself in a race against time to save his true love, who has been betrothed to a corrupt Roman Senator. As Mount Vesuvius erupts, he must fight to save his beloved as Pompeii crumbles around him. How much fucking time did they have? Not much. Probably zero. And most of the time the area was being rained down with ash. The fee who survived split immediately.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 08:07 AM (h4eud)

79 "You get a few reports about them every year after Halloween, when the little tree rats are eating the fermeted pumpkins people have left on their doorsteps."

Around here they are a PLAGUE. They will eat any pumpkin, fermented or not.

We once would set out sugarpie pumpkins as seasonal decorations, and then cook with them a few weeks later. (Pumpkin soup, pumpkin pie, om nom nom nom.)

Now the arboreal rodents chow down on them immediately. I'm not eating anything with critter tooth marks all over it, thanks.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 12, 2013 08:07 AM (gqT4g)

80 These are the child soldiers of the Free Shit Army. Just like the Karen youth, the pali kids and other exuberant, youthful terrorists, they are modeling their behavior on what their parents have taught them.

Posted by: runningrn at December 12, 2013 08:07 AM (PLOz8)

81 Crab apples. CRAB. They have lots of natural pectin. You can slice a few of 'em up into many kinds of home-made jellies (if the main fruit is low-pectin) and avoid having to buy the packaged pectin.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 12, 2013 08:08 AM (7ObY1)

82 That goes for these assholes and the "knock out game" too. Get some Class 1 assault and battery charges. Then it won't be a "game" anymore when they get in the FMIA hotel.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2013 12:04 PM (T2V/1)

IMHO, more of these knockout game assholes need to be shot by the would-be victims.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 08:08 AM (DrWcr)

83 Tsk, tsk. These poor kiddos have a case of "Affluenza."

Maybe they should be grounded or have their iPhone and iPads taken away for a week? Maybe both would be too harsh, though....

Posted by: Lizzy at December 12, 2013 08:08 AM (JRmiD)

84 They'll all probably get participation trophies.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2013 08:09 AM (wNF3N)

85 72 Sorry to go OT before 100, but can't stick around.

If you haven't seen this pic, you must:

http://tinyurl.com/ltqdkgn

I'm volunteering for Ted's campaign immediately.

Apologies if someone has already noted it. Have good day!

Posted by: JQP at December 12, 2013 12:06 PM (U4GjV)

You can just see Cruz trying like hell to avoid talking to McCain.

Posted by: joncelli at December 12, 2013 08:09 AM (RD7QR)

86 Give em snow shovel and 60 days shovel time... That take the starch out of them.. Will not hinder their physical development either. My mother told me to get a shovel and go play in the driveway... Michigander by trade

Posted by: 7 Days in May at December 12, 2013 08:09 AM (j6DTo)

87 IMHO, more of these knockout game assholes need to be shot by the would-be victims.

Which moron came up with "We need to replace the Knockout Game with the Glockout Game"?

Because that's awesome.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 08:09 AM (GQ8sn)

88 How about he goes to rehab in SoCal for a year? How about Nevada?

Posted by: Senator Reid at December 12, 2013 08:09 AM (QF8uk)

89 Maybe they should be grounded or have their iPhone and iPads taken away for a week? Maybe both would be too harsh, though....

They'll just buy another.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 12, 2013 08:09 AM (ZKzrr)

90 That's a Myth.... Sean Bean does NOT die in everything....

---

It's still considered a spoiler when he DOESN'T die.

The only movie I can think of where his character doesn't die is National Treasure.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 08:10 AM (DrWcr)

91 21 Solution: Robot caretakers with frickin' lasers on their heads. --------------------- Roombas with guns. What the frick is wrong with you people! I suppose you all use those job stealing ATM's as well!

Posted by: Preznit Selfies at December 12, 2013 08:10 AM (PLOz8)

92 Think of these kids as a luxury tax...

Posted by: John Roberts at December 12, 2013 08:11 AM (FcR7P)

Okay. Just updated my vacation checklist with:

14. Lock the freaking doors.

Posted by: Roy at December 12, 2013 08:11 AM (VndSC)

The 40 Best Conservative Websites of 2013

According to whom?

Posted by: Roland THTG at December 12, 2013 08:11 AM (QM5S2)

95 My mother told me to get a shovel and go play in the driveway... Michigander by trade Hah, I took her seriously. Used to look forward to the big snows so that I could shovel everything off to the side of the driveway and then dig tunnels through the mountain of snow.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 12, 2013 08:12 AM (QF8uk)

96 >>How much fucking time did they have? Not much. Probably zero. And most of the time the area was being rained down with ash. The fee who survived split immediately.

I think there was an earlier eruption about 30 years before the big one. So....they had time.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 12, 2013 08:13 AM (JRmiD)

97 How about he goes to rehab in SoCal for a year? How about Nevada? How 'bout a weekend?

Posted by: Filthy Bob Filner at December 12, 2013 08:13 AM (FcR7P)

98 It's all ok because these rich 1 percenters achieved their wealth on the backs of the poor by raping, pillaging, poisoning and enslaving them. I would think you should be thanking these kids...

Posted by: Preznit Selfies at December 12, 2013 08:13 AM (PLOz8)

99 Snow Leopard are the rarest of the world's Weasels.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2013 08:13 AM (WwOtG)

100 Which moron came up with "We need to replace the Knockout Game with the Glockout Game"?

Because that's awesome.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 12:09 PM (GQ8sn)

That was me, although I may have heard it somewhere else. Can't remember where, though.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 08:13 AM (DrWcr)

101 Sorry to go OT before 100, but can't stick around.

If you haven't seen this pic, you must:

http://tinyurl.com/ltqdkgn

Not to go all hyper-skeptical, but are we sure that's a legit photo? It didn't give a source.

Pretty intense if real. I wouldn't mind a few more GOP Senators getting in McCain's face. Though trying to shame him is probably futile.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 12, 2013 08:13 AM (SY2Kh)

102 Where did all the morons go? Gone to New Thread every one! O when will we ever learn? O when will weeee ever Look! Squirrel!

Posted by: Tangled Minilights, Santa's mindful webworker at December 12, 2013 08:13 AM (3ky+E)

103 25 It's so freakin' COLD out!

The tree sparrows that live in our office crab-apple tree love it, scampering around in the snow. Those tough little cheep-heads seem to like it better the colder it gets.

Wish I could be like them.

Except for the eating worms part.

--

I don't understand how the ducks can swim around in winter and not freeze their feet off.

Posted by: eleven at December 12, 2013 08:14 AM (KXm42)

104 This whole party crashing/f'ing up people's houses took a funny toll here in Baltimore recently. A bunch of punks found out that a rich girls parents were out of town and they stormed in and had a party. The guys thought that it would be funny to take a dump in the closet, on the pool table and generally trash this house. The father found out who did the destruction and went to the kids' parents and asked them to pay for the damages. The parents all said no. The home owner then found out where some of these boys were planning to play sports in college and went to the Athletic directors of these colleges (ivy league,etc) and showed them the evidence. All of them were dropped immediately. No place on the team, no scholarships. Good life lesson I say...

Posted by: Timon at December 12, 2013 08:14 AM (kAniV)

105 If I'm remembering his gun collection properly, this is one of the few people I have met who own a 10-gauge shotgun. I'm imagining the sound of a 10-gauge being fired over the heads of the party mob. And then the faint liquid gurgle of two hundred pairs of pants being pissed in unison.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 12, 2013 11:59 AM (gqT4g)

A whiff of grapeshot!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 08:14 AM (DrWcr)

106 That's a lot of freaking parents not giving a damn about what their kids do on off hours...300 kids? wtf

Posted by: Alinsky at December 12, 2013 08:14 AM (hhcYS)

107 64 Have you ever seen a drunk squirrel? Have you ever seen a drunk squirrel try to 'sign'? I think its funny, but deaf people find it fall down hilarious.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 12, 2013 08:14 AM (LsF5M)

108 How much fucking time did they have? Not much.

Who needs more than two minutes?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 12, 2013 08:15 AM (SY2Kh)

109 I actually had a job house and cat sitting that second Xmas Miss Emily was dead. On the Island. Cat Harry- 18 or 19 pounds of him. Broke a tooth and had to have it pulled. Went to the Island afterwards, Harry sidles up to me, sniffs my face and very gently pats my face where the tooth was. I guess he could smell the Lidocaine block. You could almost guess his thoughts, "Gee! Lost a fang, man? That's awful!"

Posted by: backhoe at December 12, 2013 08:15 AM (ULH4o)

110 This seems like an extension of the OWS movement, eh? It's that entitlement paired with the destroy the rich mentality.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 12, 2013 08:15 AM (JRmiD)

111 re 74: yeah, meant 'eight' not 'right'

Posted by: Mallfly at December 12, 2013 08:15 AM (bJm7W)

112

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 12, 2013 12:13 PM (SY2Kh)

probably real but the perspective appears to be an optical illusion.

Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2013 08:15 AM (m2CN7)

113 Americascivilwar.blogspot.com Christmas is coming up soon.

Posted by: Darian at December 12, 2013 08:15 AM (/zun9)

114 That was me, although I may have heard it somewhere else. Can't remember where, though.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 12:13 PM (DrWcr)

*awards Insomniac free Platinum Membership for a week*

I'm going to rock out with my Glock out!

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 08:15 AM (GQ8sn)

115 Heller II: Electric Boogaloo http://tinyurl.com/kt7mrpz The Supreme Court ruled in 2008 that D.C.Â’s 30-year handgun ban was unconstitutional in the landmark District of Columbia v. Heller decision. In response, WashingtonÂ’s city council put in place the most onerous gun registration requirement in the country. So Dick Heller is taking D.C. to court again in a case known as Â“Heller II.Â” Heller told me in a phone interview Tuesday that, Â“The city collected every gun restriction they could find from every other state and gave them to us as thumbtacks on the road for our march to Second Amendment freedom.Â” He is the lead plaintiff of five District residents who state that their constitutional rights are being infringed by the registration requirements. The city claims the process is necessary for Â“to protect police officers and to aid in crime control.Â”

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2013 08:16 AM (fWAjv)

116 The Department of Public Health did not respond to requests for comment on Tuesday or Wednesday. Requests? From the public?! Who do you think you are?

Posted by: The Department of Public Health at December 12, 2013 08:16 AM (FcR7P)

117 Next story, Fish and Wildlife Service arrests owners for owning a stuffed Snow leopard.

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2013 08:16 AM (4JkHl)

118

*awards Insomniac free Platinum Membership for a week*

Woo hoo! That comes with ampersands, right?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 08:16 AM (DrWcr)

119 The only movie I can think of where his character doesn't die is National Treasure.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 12:10 PM (DrWcr)

Ronin.

Posted by: [/i]KG at December 12, 2013 08:17 AM (p7BzH)

120 16 Looking at long range weather forecasts for Christmas to New Years. Cold, colder, and record-breaking cold is headed our way, straight from Siberia. Posted by: Weather Geek and AGW Denier at December 12, 2013 11:54 AM (/KGrg) We are all Siberians now, comrade.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2013 08:17 AM (zoehZ)

121 Ronin.

Posted by: KG at December 12, 2013 12:17 PM (p7BzH)

Oh, yeah, forgot about that one.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 08:17 AM (DrWcr)

122 We are all Siberians now, comrade.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2013 12:17 PM (zoehZ)

I love riding my Siberian.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 12, 2013 08:18 AM (DrWcr)

123 re 93: according to "right wing news dot com"

Posted by: Mallfly at December 12, 2013 08:18 AM (bJm7W)

124 They'll just buy another. Reminds me of how my son, who worked for his own money, came home from shopping with me at a computer show. He bought computer case, motherboard, power supply, ram, keyboard, the whole shebang for about a hundred bucks. He built his own computers, for fun. As a techie, you'll appreciate the next part. So we drop the boxes on the kitchen table and he opens the box with the case. I says to wife that he bought the computer for like fifteen dollars. He pulls the case (empty of course) out and I say, 'Boy did you get ripped off.' He nods his head in agreement while wife insists I take him back to get his money back.

Posted by: Weather Geek and AGW Denier[/i] at December 12, 2013 08:18 AM (/KGrg)

125 Woo hoo! That comes with ampersands, right?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 12:16 PM (DrWcr)

Yes, but you have to fill out an IRS form for the estimated tax value of your future ampersand usage.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 08:18 AM (GQ8sn)

126 he home owner then found out where some of these boys were planning to play sports in college and went to the Athletic directors... That guy deserves a "Fuckin-A!" award. Nice.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2013 08:19 AM (FcR7P)

127

Hey, I'm reading Jeff Guinn's biography of Charles Manson. (I know, right? Light and fluffy.) While we clearly don't share the same politics, he does bring across what scuzzy assholes the counter culture revolutionaries were. Andrea Dworkin, in Right Wing Women (NO WAIT! COME BACK!) had those leftie sacks bang to rights. (Her take on conservative woman, however, left a sour taste in my mouth. The misogyny of the hippies and beats is well documented. What she said about conservative women, however, was condescending, dehumanising and completly avoided the arguments at hand.)

However...(My GAWD, that was some tangent.)

What's really fascinating is (1) how things only really hit the fan when it stopped being upper middle class white kids playing at being revolutionaries and started attacking the wider social fabric and affecting people who didn't have the social and famility structures, or the intelligence to keep afloat. (I'm thinking of the young women he targeted in particular, but it applies to lots of things.) And (2) the take on prison reform, and nature versus nurture. They just kept giving Manson chance after chance after chance. And this was in the 40s and 50s. I'm veering wildly between thinking of it as necessary reforms with one spectacular failure, and wondering what the hell they were thinking.

Posted by: Lizzie at December 12, 2013 08:19 AM (3hJcU)

128 114 Heller II: Electric Boogaloo http://tinyurl.com/kt7mrpz The Supreme Court ruled in 2008 that D.C.Â’s 30-year handgun ban was unconstitutional in the landmark District of Columbia v. Heller decision. In response, WashingtonÂ’s city council put in place the most onerous gun registration requirement in the country. So Dick Heller is taking D.C. to court again in a case known as Â“Heller II.Â” Heller told me in a phone interview Tuesday that, Â“The city collected every gun restriction they could find from every other state and gave them to us as thumbtacks on the road for our march to Second Amendment freedom.Â” He is the lead plaintiff of five District residents who state that their constitutional rights are being infringed by the registration requirements. The city claims the process is necessary for Â“to protect police officers and to aid in crime control.Â” --- The courts don't like it when you tell them to go fuck themselves. I figure that SCOTUS may end up telling DC to get their shit together or they'll impose "must issue" permits and declare the laws used to kick the last remaining FFL out of town to be unconstitutional.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 12, 2013 08:19 AM (/Crba)

129 Best book I've read on Pompeii? Ghosts of Vesuvius: A New Look at the Last Days of Pompeii, How Towers Fall, and Other Strange Connections By Charles Pellegrino. Its moving account of what happened there is interwoven with first person accounts on 9/11, as connected by the physical dynamics of collapsing air columns (ash column v buildings). The same author later got suckered into writing a bogus account, but "Ghosts" is a good read. link (not) in sig (Pixy forbids).

Posted by: Piercello at December 12, 2013 08:19 AM (P4dpU)

130 When I was a kid, before I was old enough to officially work on the books, snow shoveling was our job. Every evening after dinner, my friend Kevin and I would start hitting all the houses on our street that didn't have kids to do the shoveling. Snow blowers were enormous, expensive and notoriously unreliable back then. And therefore pretty rare. We had one but it spent most of its life sitting in the garage waiting for repair. Kevin and I charged one dollar apiece per driveway. Kids today want 20 bucks. Most of our customers "tipped" us by giving us two bucks each. And we usually got invited inside after for some cookies and cocoa. Winter was when we made most of our money. Nobody wanted to hire anyone to cut their grass (though I did have an off-the-books gig cutting grass for a local apartment complex-I got to use a rider lawnmower-the pinnacle of coolness when you're a 12 year old boy!) We shoveled as quickly as possible (while still doing a good job) so we could get as many driveways done as we could and make more money. We'd keep at it till long after dark, coming home half-frozen and beat down tired. And with more money in our pockets than any other kid on the block. Hard work and clever entrepeneurship. Today, we'd probably be shut down by the town for not having a permit or something.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 12, 2013 08:19 AM (7ObY1)

131 The only movie I can think of where his character doesn't die is National Treasure.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 12:10 PM (DrWcr)

Ronin.

Posted by: KG at December 12, 2013 12:17 PM (p7BzH)

Getting kicked off the team saved his ass. LOL!

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 08:20 AM (GQ8sn)

132 That, by the way, was especially inspired by that case in Dallas. Have we settled whether it was as bad as it looked at first?

Posted by: Lizzie at December 12, 2013 08:20 AM (3hJcU)

133 LA County Sheriff placing leopard on desk: You mind telling me what this is.

Punk: I don't know, you tell me

LA County Sheriff: Its a Spotted snow leopard worth about a quarter million dollars.

Punk: Damn why didn't I make it to the pawn shop?

Posted by: Zoolander Script at December 12, 2013 08:20 AM (T2V/1)

134

Yeah, no. I'm sorry, but as soon as I got to "A mounted snow leopard worth more than $250,000" I lost all sympathy.

Sure, lock up the hooligans, make them pay for their tom foolery, but don't expect me to feel sorry for some liberal LA douchebags who had their trashy mcmansion trashed.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2013 08:20 AM (xCw24)

135

Posted by: Lizzie at December 12, 2013 12:19 PM (3hJcU)

Its a travesty that they let Manson recently get married or that he even had a chance to build a relationship enough to get married.

Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2013 08:21 AM (m2CN7)

136 >>Ronin. Posted by: KG at December 12, 2013 12:17 PM (p7BzH) I don't think he died in Troy but he should have. Everyone should have. And he did some low budget movie not to long ago were he played a MI6 spook charged with hunting down Islamic terrorists in the UK only to find out he was being duped by his superiors.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2013 08:21 AM (g1DWB)

137 Give em snow shovel and 60 days shovel time...

My cow-orker with seven kids (including two college grads who get their rent and insurances and cars paid for because they don't want to have jobs; the youngest is in jr high) was bitching the other day about having to shovel. I said, "I thought you have children living at home, why are you shoveling?"

"Oh, they won't do it."

"What?"

"I've asked them to, but they won't do it. They don't like it."

If I'd said "No, I don't like it" to shoveling (or any household chore), I'd have been sleeping in the garage that night (not really, because after half an hour I'd have been cold and bored and given in). But no, this guy just shrugs and does the shoveling himself. And then bitches about it at work.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 12, 2013 08:21 AM (ZKzrr)

138 Getting kicked off the team saved his ass. LOL! --- In the commentary, they mentioned that they nearly had him "taken for a ride" in an IRA van like Dierdre got in at least one version of the ending.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 12, 2013 08:21 AM (/Crba)

139 Reminds me of how my son, who worked for his own money, came home from shopping with me at a computer show. He bought computer case, motherboard, power supply, ram, keyboard, the whole shebang for about a hundred bucks. He built his own computers, for fun.

Very nice! I did that for my son when our old Dell took a dump. Bought all the parts and put it together in one afternoon. Nothing like spending a day geeking out with your kid.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 08:22 AM (GQ8sn)

140 I have a relative with a 2 or 4 gauge shotgun. It's has a clamp for mounting to gunwale (that where the name comes from?) of your boat for duck hunting on the Delaware River. You loaded it with bob, cut nails, broken screws, whatever, and fired it with a string to a cap lock. Then you sent in your dogs to collect the ducks.

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2013 08:22 AM (4JkHl)

141 Rodney Dangerfields house.

Posted by: redenzo at December 12, 2013 08:22 AM (zgVtn)

142

A mounted snow leopard worth more than $250,000, pieces of armor and designer clothes were among the items recovered by sheriffÂ’s detectives investigating a party planned over social media and held, without the owner's knowledge, at a vacant, multimillion-dollar La Habra Heights mansion.

Can you really say it was a "vacant" mansion? It was clearly still a home, just not occupied at the moment.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2013 08:22 AM (4df7R)

143 It happened in La Habra, which is Orange County -- not LA.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 08:23 AM (h4eud)

144 I live in the somewhat rural area not far from a large town.

We have come to notice that folks from town come out to what we laughingly call "The Public Lands" outside of town to dump their old computers, mattresses, refrigerators, etc.

There is this odd mental problem with these town folks that for some odd reason, beyond me, they think that any "open space" or empty home is up for grabs.

Well, it isn't.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 12, 2013 08:23 AM (e8kgV)

145 I have a relative with a 2 or 4 gauge shotgun. At what point do you start calling it a cannon?

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2013 08:24 AM (FcR7P)

146 Yes, but you have to fill out an IRS form for the estimated tax value of your future ampersand usage. Posted by: EC --------------- While that is true, Barky has unilaterally waived the portion of the law that requires verification of your estimated ampersand usage, so, just use a number that benefits you best, let some honest sucker pick up the tab.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 12, 2013 08:24 AM (aDwsi)

147

I don't think he died in Troy but he should have. Everyone should have.

He was the only good thing about "Troy." Well him and Eric Bana, who was actually quite good as Hector.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2013 08:24 AM (4df7R)

148 133 Sure, lock up the hooligans, make them pay for their tom foolery, but don't expect me to feel sorry for some liberal LA douchebags who had their trashy mcmansion trashed.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2013 12:20 PM (xCw24)

According to that article they did over a million dollars worth of damage. They'll never pay for it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 12, 2013 08:24 AM (T2V/1)

149 139 I have a relative with a 2 or 4 gauge shotgun. It's has a clamp for mounting to gunwale (that where the name comes from?) of your boat for duck hunting on the Delaware River. You loaded it with bob, cut nails, broken screws, whatever, and fired it with a string to a cap lock. Then you sent in your dogs to collect the ducks. Posted by: Jean

A punt gun! Clear a lake with one.

Posted by: backhoe at December 12, 2013 08:25 AM (ULH4o)

150 I don't understand how the ducks can swim around in winter and not freeze their feet off. Posted by: eleven at December 12, 2013 12:14 PM (KXm42) Ex and I were by a frozen pond where the ducks were walking on the ice.. "I wonder what they do when the ice melts" ... sigh SMH (granted it was just a brain-freeze but..)

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2013 08:25 AM (fWAjv)

151 The nice thing about living in the time of Pompeii, is that you could fuck like bunnies. I don't think there were venereal diseases back then though I may be wrong. Prostitutiion paid very badly though.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 08:26 AM (h4eud)

152 Yes, but you have to fill out an IRS form for the estimated tax value of your future ampersand usage.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 12:18 PM (GQ8sn)

Dammit.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 08:26 AM (DrWcr)

153 That guy deserves a "Fuckin-A!" award. Nice.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2013 12:19 PM (FcR7P)

The funny thing is that he went to the parents and told them that he was planning to bring the information to the Athletic Directors if they didn't pay for the damage. The parents called his bluff and lost big. I know one set of parents and it couldn't have happened to a bigger asshole. He got what was coming...

Posted by: Timon at December 12, 2013 08:26 AM (kAniV)

154 139 Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2013 12:22 PM (4JkHl)

Those are rare now from what I understand and worth a LOT of money.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 12, 2013 08:26 AM (T2V/1)

155 Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2013 12:22 PM (4JkHl)

James Mitchener mentions this gun in "Chesapeake". When survival is at stake, all bets are off.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 12, 2013 08:27 AM (o3MSL)

156 According to that article they did over a million dollars worth of damage. They'll never pay for it.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2013 12:24 PM (T2V/1)

This is a case in which I could support public flogging.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 08:27 AM (DrWcr)

157 I'm STILL sitting here in this mental hospital trying to figure out where the ducks go in the winter. And don't give me any phony answers, I hate phonies.

Posted by: Holden Caulfield at December 12, 2013 08:27 AM (7ObY1)

158 Quarter-million dollar stuffed cat, and no alarm system? In LA County?

Posted by: red sweater at December 12, 2013 08:28 AM (oATMN)

159 The funny thing is that he went to the parents and told them that he was planning to bring the information to the Athletic Directors if they didn't pay for the damage. The parents called his bluff and lost big. I know one set of parents and it couldn't have happened to a bigger asshole. He got what was coming... Posted by: Timon at December 12, 2013 12:26 PM (kAniV) The sad thing is that no lessons will be learned except "don't get caught" and "Boy, that guy was an a-hole".

Posted by: RightWingProf at December 12, 2013 08:28 AM (ceOhI)

160 The nice thing about living in the time of Pompeii, is that you could fuck like bunnies. I don't think there were venereal diseases back then though I may be wrong. Prostitutiion paid very badly though.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 12:26 PM (h4eud)

Saw a special on TV on the Pompeii museum. They could not show some of the mosaics recovered as they were too pornographic.

Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2013 08:28 AM (m2CN7)

161

OK, who mounted the snow leopard?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 12, 2013 11:56 AM (O3C36)

Roy? How COULD you?

Posted by: Siegfried at December 12, 2013 08:28 AM (zF6Iw)

162 I know one set of parents and it couldn't have happened to a bigger asshole.

I like your story better than mine.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 12, 2013 08:28 AM (ZKzrr)

163 Gives lie to the concept of the security of gated communities.

Unless you shoot the barbarians, they never learn consequences.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 12, 2013 08:28 AM (JdUCt)

164 The nice thing about living in the time of Pompeii, is that you could fuck like bunnies. I don't think there were venereal diseases back then though I may be wrong. Prostitutiion paid very badly though.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 12:26 PM (h4eud)

There have always been venereal diseases. But life expectancy was generally short enough that you were probably dead too soon for anyone to realize you had syphillis.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2013 08:28 AM (4df7R)

165 Those are rare now from what I understand and worth a LOT of money. Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2013 12:26 PM (T2V/1) One from 1890 going for $17,500.

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2013 08:29 AM (fWAjv)

166 10 The Kulaks had it coming. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 12, 2013 11:52 AM (A7zvX) Stalin didn't even hid it. During one of those secret WW2 conferences, Churchill asked him straight out what did he do with the Kulaks and Stalin said he killed them all. Oddly, they are still lying about Katyn. And Stalin's grandson tried to sue somebody a few years ago for claiming Katyn was on Stalin's orders. You didn't scratch your ass without Stalin's orders. So, to claim that they would murder 25k high ranking Polish officers without his permission is ridiculous.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 08:29 AM (h4eud)

167 I don't think he died in Troy but he should have. Everyone should have.

And he did some low budget movie not to long ago were he played a MI6 spook charged with hunting down Islamic terrorists in the UK only to find out he was being duped by his superiors.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2013 12:21 PM (g1DWB)

He was in Troy? Oohh, one of the higher ups on the Greek side, right?

He also has some movie called Black Death on Netflix, haven't seen it, but from the blurb I imagine he lives.

Posted by: [/i]KG at December 12, 2013 08:30 AM (p7BzH)

168 And don't give me any phony answers, I hate phonies.

Posted by: Holden Caulfield at December 12, 2013 12:27 PM (7ObY1)

Quit whining, you crybaby. You were the original emo kid.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2013 08:30 AM (4df7R)

169 I don't think he died in Troy but he should have. He was playing Odysseus. Homer had to set up for the sequel, y'know...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 12, 2013 08:31 AM (naUcP)

170

147 -

I don't necessarily mean pay, as in money.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2013 08:31 AM (xCw24)

171 What the homeowner needs to do is nail the bastards with a civil suit, even if it's just for the deductible.*

Sue the kids in the names of the parents. Refuse any and all settlement.

That way, the parents' and kids' names become public record as defendants in a lawsuit.

And hit all the little shits with civil conspiracy claims as well. So the jury can award punitive damages.

And it all comes out of the parent's pockets, not an insurance company.

*Wait, 1% of $2mil is . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 12, 2013 08:31 AM (VjL9S)

172 The only movie I can think of where his character doesn't die is National Treasure.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 12:10 PM (DrWcr)
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Bravo Two Zero

Posted by: Penfold at December 12, 2013 08:32 AM (Fbt5B)

173 143 I live in the somewhat rural area not far from a large town. We have come to notice that folks from town come out to what we laughingly call "The Public Lands" outside of town to dump their old computers, mattresses, refrigerators, etc. There is this odd mental problem with these town folks that for some odd reason, beyond me, they think that any "open space" or empty home is up for grabs. Well, it isn't. Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 12, 2013 12:23 PM (e8kgV) Over the years, I've had to deal with housemates, neighbors, etc., who don't seem to understand that if it doesn't belong to you, it is not yours to take or give away. I have to constantly watch my shit otherwise people will walk off with that.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 08:32 AM (h4eud)

174

He was in Troy? Oohh, one of the higher ups on the Greek side, right?

He was Odysseus. I wish they'd gone ahead and made "The Odyssey" instead, because I wouldn't have minded a whole movie that focused on Sean Bean in an itty-bitty toga, being all manly and shit.

*swoon*

Instead we got Brad Pitt caked in bronzer.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2013 08:32 AM (4df7R)

175 156 I'm STILL sitting here in this mental hospital trying to figure out where the ducks go in the winter.

And don't give me any phony answers, I hate phonies.

Posted by: Holden Caulfield at December 12, 2013 12:27 PM (7ObY1)

You're a fucking pussy and not at all controversial.

Posted by: Scrotey McBoogerballs at December 12, 2013 08:32 AM (LI48c)

176 I just looked up the story synopsis for "Ronin" on IMDB. It even mentions "MacGuffin" right in it!

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 08:32 AM (GQ8sn)

177 What about Stormy Monday? Or Clarrissa? did he die in them?

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 08:33 AM (h4eud)

178 >>He was in Troy? Oohh, one of the higher ups on the Greek side, right? Yep. He was an officer Agamemnon's army and the only guy that Achilles seemed to respect outside his own group of fighters. His job was basically to convince Achilles to fight for Agamemnon against Troy.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2013 08:33 AM (g1DWB)

179 He was Odysseus. I wish they'd gone ahead and made "The Odyssey" instead, because I wouldn't have minded a whole movie that focused on Sean Bean in an itty-bitty toga, being all manly and shit.

*swoon*

Instead we got Brad Pitt caked in bronzer.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 12, 2013 12:32 PM (4df7R)

TROY PUNCH'D!!!!

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 08:33 AM (GQ8sn)

180 After this blow-out I've given up on-line dating. Getting caught at this party could have meant real trouble for me in 2016.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 12, 2013 08:34 AM (B5y+v)

181 Yep. He was an officer Agamemnon's army and the only guy that Achilles seemed to respect outside his own group of fighters. His job was basically to convince Achilles to fight for Agamemnon against Troy.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2013 12:33 PM (g1DWB)

Also known as Odysseus.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2013 08:34 AM (4df7R)

182 Quit whining, you crybaby. You were the original emo kid. Well, with all those handsome bastards bullying me, and old mumble-mouthed Jane not giving me any, and then turning around and giving it up to a handsome bastard, what do you expect? Plus I had grey hair at sixteen, dammit!

Posted by: Holden Caulfield at December 12, 2013 08:34 AM (7ObY1)

183 Yeah, no. I'm sorry, but as soon as I got to "A mounted snow leopard worth more than $250,000" I lost all sympathy. Why? Would you feel the same way if it was a World Record Whitetail that the guy shot?

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2013 08:34 AM (76oMt)

184 I have a relative with a 2 or 4 gauge shotgun. It's has a clamp for mounting to gunwale (that where the name comes from?) of your boat for duck hunting on the Delaware River. You loaded it with bob, cut nails, broken screws, whatever, and fired it with a string to a cap lock. Then you sent in your dogs to collect the ducks. 2 guage, aka Punt Gun. Record? 135 ducks with one shot.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2013 08:35 AM (FNtJ6)

185 This is a case in which I could support public flogging.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2013 12:27 PM (DrWcr)

That, or auction the little buggers off to rich perverts in Saudi, and give the proceeds to the victimized homeowner.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2013 08:35 AM (60Q+L)

186 163 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 12, 2013 12:28 PM (4df7R)

My understanding was that venereal diseases were brought back to Europe from the "New World" from the indians.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 12, 2013 08:35 AM (T2V/1)

187 160 OK, who mounted the snow leopard?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 12, 2013 11:56 AM (O3C36)

Roy? How COULD you?

Posted by: Siegfried at December 12, 2013 12:28 PM (zF6Iw)

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Mumble mumble gurgle :weak shrug:

Posted by: Roy at December 12, 2013 08:36 AM (YmPwQ)

188 There have always been venereal diseases. But life expectancy was generally short enough that you were probably dead too soon for anyone to realize you had syphillis. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 12, 2013 12:28 PM (4df7R) I thought the indians gave us syphillis for giving them small pox and measles.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 08:36 AM (h4eud)

189 Hmmm.... Obama voters?

Posted by: --- at December 12, 2013 08:36 AM (MMC8r)

190 >>My understanding was that venereal diseases were brought back to Europe from the "New World" from the indians.

Syphilis.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 12, 2013 08:37 AM (JRmiD)

191 170 Posted by: RoyalOil at December 12, 2013 12:31 PM (VjL9S)

Need to press charges AND sue. I am sure the insurance company will be seeking to recover charges too.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 12, 2013 08:37 AM (T2V/1)

192 >>Also known as Odysseus. Memory isn't what it used to be.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2013 08:37 AM (g1DWB)

193

182 -

The owner of that house didn't shoot jack. I'm going to go ahead and assume the owner of that house is a liberal who is pro gun control.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2013 08:37 AM (xCw24)

194 Awwww boo hoo. Oprah and The Butler have been snubbed by the Golden Globes.

Posted by: buzzion at December 12, 2013 08:37 AM (LI48c)

195 I was wrong. I'ts La Habra Heights in LA County -- not La Habra in Orange Co.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 08:37 AM (h4eud)

196 He also has some movie called Black Death on Netflix, haven't seen it, but from the blurb I imagine he lives. ThereÂ’s something wrong with that movie, then.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 12, 2013 08:38 AM (QF8uk)

197

Posted by: Lizzie at December 12, 2013 12:19 PM (3hJcU)

Lizzie, did you ever read Ed Sanders' The Family? It was written just after the Tate-LaBianca murders and really captures the sheer high weirdness of LA at the time.

Posted by: Siegfried at December 12, 2013 08:38 AM (zF6Iw)

198 Got to go dump trash. bbl

Posted by: Vic[/i] at December 12, 2013 08:39 AM (T2V/1)

199 Got to go dump trash. bbl

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2013 12:39 PM (T2V/1)

Look for an open field near Islamic Rage Boy.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 08:39 AM (GQ8sn)

200

194 -

For what it's worth, for some of us here in "flyover" country, anything on the left coast is LA.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2013 08:40 AM (xCw24)

201 My understanding was that venereal diseases were brought back to Europe from the "New World" from the indians.

Syphilis is thought to have hitched a ride home with Columbus, but the jury is still out.

Posted by: no good deed at December 12, 2013 08:41 AM (HsJeN)

202 I just remembered, Sean Bean doesn't die in Silent Hill.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2013 08:41 AM (GQ8sn)

203 I'm sorry, but as soon as I got to "A mounted snow leopard worth more than $250,000" I lost all sympathy.

You know, wanting rights removed from people whose taste offends you is pretty much the end game of the neofeudalist Left.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2013 08:42 AM (B/VB5)

204 Look, I get the impulse behind finding a place to party for illegal, underage drinking. What I DON'T get is the need to then LOOT and PLUNDER someone's place just because you broke in and decided to party there. I mean, how about an EMPTY house, would that work better ?

Posted by: deadrody at December 12, 2013 08:42 AM (aT8Zk)

205 I thought the indians gave us syphillis for giving them small pox and measles.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 12, 2013 12:36 PM (h4eud)

They actually aren't sure of that. It did exist in America before Columbus, but they're unsure if it existed in Europe prior to that and just went undiagnosed as a disease until some time after Columbus returned.

Posted by: buzzion at December 12, 2013 08:45 AM (LI48c)

206 I saw Syphilis open for the Mentors in '83.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 12, 2013 08:45 AM (zF6Iw)

207 The home owner then found out where some of these boys were planning to play sports in college and went to the Athletic directors of these colleges (ivy league,etc) and showed them the evidence. All of them were dropped immediately. No place on the team, no scholarships. That's awesome. My wife is a head girls track coach. She'll work hard for any of her athletes who work for her. She'll work even harder to get them scholarships if they're good kids who worked for her. Many kids can get a scholarship somewhere if they put in the work. But frequently she gets a moderately great athlete with a bad attitude. They all want to go to Oregon or Stanford or some place like that. Little do the knuckleheads know, coaches talk to each other. She's very careful about what she says, but a coach will twig VERY quickly if you don't say things like "They have a great attitude and will work with you."

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 12, 2013 08:45 AM (P7Wsr)

208 I really really do not like that horrid movie Troy. They mounted Homer and raped him on the story. No Kassandra. And Achilles' mother, they totally turned her upside down; you dips she did NOT want her son to go off and fight but the way you wrote it she was going 'rah! rah! rah! go sack Troy and be famous!'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 12, 2013 08:47 AM (JdUCt)

209 We have come to notice that folks from town come out to what we laughingly call "The Public Lands" outside of town to dump their old computers, mattresses, refrigerators, etc. There is this odd mental problem with these town folks that for some odd reason, beyond me, they think that any "open space" or empty home is up for grabs. I had a Church leader whose property group owned some open land that people would go shooting at. Idiots didn't clean up their brass, wadding, or any of that stuff. At some point the group wanted to develop the land, but had to spend a MILLION bucks to clean up all the lead and crap. Then they had to post a guard to keep people from mucking it up again.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 12, 2013 08:48 AM (P7Wsr)

210 Quarter-million dollar stuffed cat, and no alarm system? In LA County? Seriously. We like to use locals for our embassies. He should look into that.

Posted by: US State Dept at December 12, 2013 08:49 AM (FcR7P)

211 173 MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit "Instead we got Brad Pitt caked in bronzer." Of course. It was the Bronze Age.

Posted by: Slab Manly, Member, The League of Ugly Shirted Gentlemen at December 12, 2013 08:49 AM (FlRtG)

212 >>Look, I get the impulse behind finding a place to party for illegal, underage drinking. What I DON'T get is the need to then LOOT and PLUNDER someone's place just because you broke in and decided to party there.

I get the impulse to find an empty place to party, but I don't get acting on it.
How hard is it to find a park, a secluded spot in the woods or beach, or the home of one of the partiers? Kids from earlier generations managed to do this.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 12, 2013 08:50 AM (JRmiD)

213 The myth of people respecting public spaces. It's a myth.

Nothing says dump like driving through the Louisiana bayous near New Orleans to see where people have just dumped their mattresses and other junk just off the roadside. Or driving through Italy to stop at a scenic overlook, look down, and see where someone has dumped kitchen appliances.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 12, 2013 08:50 AM (JdUCt)

214 I have a relative with a 2 or 4 gauge shotgun. ------------------- The math here is easy, and interesting, kind of. A four gauge shotgun would have a bore that was of a dimension such that 4 ( '4 guage') lead balls which fit the bore would weight in toto, 1 lb., or, 0.25 lb. each. Now, the density of lead is 0.410 lb/cubic inch, therefore, a 0.25 lb. ball of lead would be 0.61 cu. in. That, in turn, means a lead sphere of 1.052 inches diameter, which would be the bore. Big, but not cannon sized. The same calculation for a 2 gauge results in a .5 lb. ball, etc., which leads to a bore size of 1.325. Again, big, but not huge. Small naval cannon were used that were on the order of 1.25"...., so the 2 gauge is in that range. Probably not much fun to fire.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 12, 2013 08:55 AM (aDwsi)

215 I have a relative with a 2 or 4 gauge shotgun. It's has a clamp for mounting to gunwale (that where the name comes from?) of your boat for duck hunting on the Delaware River. You loaded it with bob, cut nails, broken screws, whatever, and fired it with a string to a cap lock. Then you sent in your dogs to collect what's left of the ducks.

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2013 12:22 PM (4JkHl)

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Posted by: Nighthawk at December 12, 2013 08:55 AM (OtQXp)

216 Kids from earlier generations managed to do this. Posted by: Lizzy at December 12, 2013 12:50 PM (JRmiD) Society owes the special snowflakes a place to party.

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2013 08:56 AM (fWAjv)

217 Probably not much fun to fire. Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 12, 2013 12:55 PM (aDwsi) It beats rowing the damn boat.

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2013 08:58 AM (fWAjv)

218 It's has a clamp for mounting to gunwale -------------- Commonly called 'Punt Guns' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 12, 2013 08:59 AM (aDwsi)

219 Just going to toss it out there that back in my own teen/college party decade of the way-bitchin' 80's we did some crazy stuff and threw our share of wild parties, as did most people in every generation throughout the history of mankind, yea, even unto the middle ages.

But I can honestly say that it never occurred to us to break into an unoccupied home for the purposes of having a mass thrashing of the place.

Posted by: miked at December 12, 2013 09:03 AM (iZiIb)

220
My understanding was that venereal diseases were brought back to Europe from the "New World" from the indians.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2013 12:35 PM (T2V/1)

According to anthropologists the actual disease American aboriginals had is called yaws, which is one of the four forms of treponematosis. Syphilis is also a form of treponematosis. There are four variants of treponematosis, yaws and three others believed to have evolved from yaws. Yaws itself is believed to be about 1.6 million years old.

There is much debate whether Europeans brought the syphilis variant of treponematosis to the New World or if the Europeans contracted yaws, which later mutated into syphilis (presumably in Europe).

One thing seems certain from the archaeological record, though, that Amerinds suffered from yaws pre-European contact. Europeans also suffered from it through the slave trade as early as the 15th century.

Who originally caught syphilis from whom and transmitted to whom is still a matter of much debate.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 12, 2013 09:05 AM (tOkJB)

221 I'm thinking that these kids need to have certain legal protections removed. Name them. Name them, name where they go to school and get their pictures out in the open. Name the parents and where they work.

A few repetitions of this and parents will beat the kids before society gets a chance.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 12, 2013 09:16 AM (ODsL5)

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