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December 03, 2013

Peggy Noonan: Obama Believes Words are Realities
— Ace

Worth reading in full, I'm limited as to what I can excerpt.

I think part of the reason he wasnÂ’t careful is because he sort of lives in words. ThatÂ’s been his whole professional lifeÂ—books, speeches. Say something and it magically exists as something said, and if itÂ’s been said and publicized it must be real. He never had to push a lever, see the machine not respond, puzzle it out and fix it. ItÂ’s all been pretty abstract for him, not concrete....
Here I will say something harsh, and itÂ’s connected to the thing about words but also images.
From what I have seen the administration is full of young people whoÂ’ve seen the movie but not read the book. They act bright, they know the reference, theyÂ’re credentialed. But theyÂ’ve only seen the movie about, say, the Cuban missile crisis, and then they get into a foreign-policy question and theyÂ’re seeing movies in their heads.... Grrr, grrr, good guys beat bad guys.
ItÂ’s as if history isnÂ’t real to them. They run around tweeting, all of them, even those in substantial positions. Â“Darfur government inadequate. Genocide unacceptable.Â” They share their feelings Â– that happens to be one of the things they seem to think is real, what they feel. Â“Unjust treatment of womenÂ—scourge that hurts my heart.Â” This is the dialogue to the movies in their heads.
ThereÂ’s a sense that theyÂ’re all freelancing, not really part of anything coherent.
For four years I have been told, by those whoÂ’ve worked in the administration and those whoÂ’ve visited it as volunteers or contractors, that the Obama White House isnÂ’t organized. ItÂ’s just full of chatter. Meetings donÂ’t begin on time, thereÂ’s no agenda, the list of those invited seems to expand and contract at somebodyÂ’s whim. There is a tendency to speak of how a problem will look and how its appearance should be handled, as opposed to what the problem is and should be done about it. People speak airily, without point. They scroll down, see a call that has to be returned, pop out and then in again.
It does not sound like a professional operation....
And when you apply this to the ObamaCare debacle, suddenly it seems to make sense. The White House is so unformed and chaotic that they probably didnÂ’t ignore the problem, they probably held a million meetings on it. People probably said things like, Â“WeÂ’re experiencing some technological challenges but weÂ’re sure weÂ’ll be up by October,Â” and other people said, Â“Yes, itÂ’s important we launch strong,Â” and others said, Â“The Republicans will have a field day if weÂ’re not.Â” And then everyone went to their next meeting. And no one did anything. And the president went off and made speeches.
Because the doing isnÂ’t that important, the talking is.

At the end of the piece, she suggests Obama's -- and his fellow Wordplay Acolytes' -- belief in the power of soothing words is essentially the primitives' belief in magic.

And on that, I'd recommend this old post I did about a military psychiatrists' diagnosis of members of his own class, the "wordsmith" class, as he termed them.

As a psychoanalyst I belong to a wordsmith profession, of course, and I have a close-up view of its practitioners. They are overwhelmingly left in their politics and tend to think words are the answer to all serious problems. Their faith in the power of words to resolve conflict is almost absolute.

Oh, Goody:

Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work. @ChuckTodd reports now #NBCNightlyNews
— NBC Nightly News (@nbcnightlynews) December 3, 2013

The Wordsmiths and Myth: This post got posted late-ish on a Friday, so people didn't see it, maybe. But it's pretty insightful. At least I think it is.

Posted by: Ace at 03:01 PM | Comments (243)
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1 Christians believe in "The Word made flesh". Leftists believe in the word

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2013 03:03 PM (BC6cY)

2 Well aren't they?

Posted by: NCKate at December 03, 2013 03:04 PM (X/4E9)

3 Obama's reality is whatever he says it is.

Posted by: NCKate at December 03, 2013 03:06 PM (X/4E9)

4 Physician heal thy self Dame Noonan, not so long ago, seemed to think words were an adequate substitute for substance and accomplishment

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:07 PM (zOTsN)

5 doesn't your typical leftist think he's proven that your a racist because he called you a racist?

Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 03:07 PM (bJm7W)

6 I'm pretty sure we told you they were all full of shit a long time ago Peggy.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 03, 2013 03:07 PM (DL2i+)

7 The line that really sticks out to me is this "Meetings donÂ’t begin on time, " just like how Obama is never on time for press any public event.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 03, 2013 03:08 PM (Pljws)

8 The problem isn't just that they believe words are realities, it's that they speak at an 8th grade level, check any of Obama's speeches. So not only do they believe their words fix things, it's that their fixes are retarded.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 03, 2013 03:08 PM (xlX1p)

9 Old and busted: walk the walk New hotness: talk the talk

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 03, 2013 03:08 PM (2RYsC)

10 re "oh goody" -- if true he won't have much time to break anything else.

Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 03:08 PM (bJm7W)

11 Narcissus had this problem too. After staring at the mirror image of himself for far too long he couldn't tell the difference between reality and the reflection.

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2013 03:08 PM (qCtp4)

12 Memo to her Noonanness: A whole lot of people have been pointing out this administration's incompetence since, well before they were elected. And you and your uptown pals dismissed every one as hayseeds, hicks, unrealistic, know nothings. Own it.

Posted by: VADM(Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at December 03, 2013 03:08 PM (O7OxF)

13 This whole thing is now pulling Hillary down.

Posted by: redenzo at December 03, 2013 03:09 PM (HKTIg)

14 So, to clarify:

Ugabe is a completely retarded mental-defective with MAJOR mental health issues, and should be removed from office forthwith.

Reality aint a bad fucking Seinfeld episode girls

Posted by: KenH at December 03, 2013 03:09 PM (Q/K7q)

15
Conservatives need not become embroiled in any conversation with Obama or Congress regarding their plan for healthcare. Obama will simply ridicule the conservative plan as ineffectual.

Memo to conservatives: Do not under any circumstance assist Obama in polishing the turd. No matter how many times it's polished, it's still a stinky turd destined to fail.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 03, 2013 03:09 PM (pJF+c)

Remember when Barky said..."Words matter"?

Yeah, right. Except when they are lies...then they 'don't matter'.

Posted by: wheatie at December 03, 2013 03:09 PM (HEPHf)

17 I've said this before and it bears repeating. The libs wanted a West Wing presidency, and that's exactly what they got. A bunch of actors playing politicians and reciting scripts. All the world's problems can be solved by some Aaron Sorkin dialogue.

Posted by: gewa76 at December 03, 2013 03:09 PM (k8m83)

18 I just think it's pretty rich she is pointing out the myopathy she suffered from herself Little late to the party Peggy.

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:09 PM (zOTsN)

19 when someone like Obama says "words matter", keep in mind the words "fecal matter"

Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 03:11 PM (bJm7W)

20 From what I have seen the administration is full of young people whoÂ’ve seen the movie but not read the book

We used to call that never had a REAL JOB in their life.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 03, 2013 03:11 PM (DL2i+)

21 The administration of magical thinking.

Posted by: mama winger at December 03, 2013 03:12 PM (P6QsQ)

22 Peggy Noonan, wasn't she pretty enamored with Obama's words back in 2008? Despite the fact he'd never accomplished anything other than getting elected?

Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at December 03, 2013 03:12 PM (kUgpq)

23
Barack Hussein Obama will go down in history as the first "floater" president. Yes, a turd for all seasons.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 03, 2013 03:12 PM (pJF+c)

24 Dame Noonan has taken off the vodka goggles long enough to realize the emperor has no clothes. Yea, I'm holding a grudge

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:12 PM (zOTsN)

25 Wow Peggy. How perceptive of you to notice after 5 years. I'm getting really tired of hearing how smart people in politics and the media are compared to us morons. Most of them are 3rd rate intellects at best.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 03:12 PM (g1DWB)

26
Doesn't Pegs feel ANY kind of shame for being fooled by these half-wits? Because I'm not seeing it in the excerpts.

Oh, wait. Wordsmith Class Solidarity smothered in Dreamy Pants Crease Sauce.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2013 03:13 PM (TIIx5)

27 Â“Systemic processes tend to reward people for making decisions that turn out to be rightÂ—creating great resentment among the anointed, who feel themselves entitled to rewards for being articulate, politically active, and morally fervent.Â”

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 03, 2013 03:13 PM (QF8uk)

28 re 16: not lies, we're just not smart enough to understand what was really meant, eg, "if you like your high quality plan" was understood by people who understood the difference between quality and substandard. Poor us for not being so smart...

Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 03:13 PM (bJm7W)

29 Peggy is a drama queen. Once every 50 posts she sounds intelligent. For and old bitch she is still pretty hot, for a ginger. Why the WSJ still gives her a gig is beyond me. She giving it up?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 03:13 PM (0FSuD)

30 Krugman, Matt Yglesias, Fatboy Christopher. They all use words to defy reality. Some parallel plane they reside on.

Posted by: NCKate at December 03, 2013 03:13 PM (X/4E9)

31 So let it be Written, so let it be Done...

Posted by: Pharoh Obamases the Foist at December 03, 2013 03:13 PM (lZBBB)

32 Every time a bell rings and angel gets his wings!

Posted by: Peggy at December 03, 2013 03:14 PM (0FSuD)

33 Didn't Noonan support Obama? I thought so. Not interested.

Posted by: biscuits mahoney at December 03, 2013 03:14 PM (avEon)

34 The words of Ten Bearshits carries the same iron of life and death.

Posted by: Outlaw Josey and the wailng Pussycats at December 03, 2013 03:14 PM (R6JT1)

35 So Peggy Nooner, who used to love us then hated us, loves us again?

Posted by: Tara Sackoff at December 03, 2013 03:14 PM (JQuNB)

36 Apology accepted.

Posted by: S. Palin at December 03, 2013 03:14 PM (O7OxF)

37 So they are living out an Aaron Sorkin series, but only with actual consequences to their acti....oh I'm sorry unforeseen consequences.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 03, 2013 03:14 PM (WdbF7)

38 Ummmmmmm..... I made a speech. Ahhhhhhhhhh, what else would you have me do.

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at December 03, 2013 03:14 PM (jucos)

39 "The program he created in 2009-10, ran on in 2012, and whose implantation he delayed until one year after that electionÂ—in retrospect, that delay seems meaningful, doesnÂ’t it?Â—has turned out to be wildly misleading as to its basic facts."

If this disaster hadn't been delayed Obama never would have won reelection, so he won on a foundation of lies, that and his tainted unemployment numbers which were also lies.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 03, 2013 03:14 PM (xlX1p)

40 This explains the reasoning behind their arguments that Obamacare doesn't work because Republicans speak out against it.

Posted by: mama winger at December 03, 2013 03:14 PM (P6QsQ)

41 It's also interesting that Hollywood loves the left and vice versa. The two great pillars of make believe believe in each other.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 03, 2013 03:14 PM (2RYsC)

Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work. @ChuckTodd reports now #NBCNightlyNews

That distinctly sounds like a threat.

Posted by: T at December 03, 2013 03:15 PM (xm5xe)

[29] Peggy does have a nice "back door".

Posted by: redenzo at December 03, 2013 03:15 PM (HKTIg)

44 peggy noonan is like the old woman that let a con man swindle her out of her life savings, and now she spends her time making excuses for the con man. she can not accept that she was a fool to be sucked in. barry is a con man, of course he lives in words, the first person a con man has to con is himself (cue george costanza quote, or better yet, "There's always a band, kid" from the music man) f** her. when she writes a column explaining how badly she misread this two bit pinko four flusher, and apologizes for the contribution she made to selling the country on this swindle, then i will read her columns again. same goes for half the right wing elite that got sucked in.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 03, 2013 03:15 PM (LWu6U)

45 Anyone up for eighteen holes of making my health care reform plan work?

Posted by: Barky I at December 03, 2013 03:15 PM (sOtz/)

46 So...O realizes that it's gonna take the WHOLE REST OF HIS F'ING PRESIDENCY to fix this POS???
Seems a tad optimistic to me...

Posted by: antisocialist at December 03, 2013 03:15 PM (eGr8Z)

47 How about I forget about her Obamaretardation if she kisses Cruz's ass on the senate floor

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:15 PM (zOTsN)

Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work.

****

Well, that cinches it. He will be running for a third term.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2013 03:16 PM (N/Sup)

15...Memo to conservatives: Do not under any circumstance assist Obama in polishing the turd. No matter how many times it's polished, it's still a stinky turd destined to fail.

This! ....times a thousand!

All we needed were a few simple reforms.

But the Dems preyed on this and used it as an opportunity to take control over our lives.

One...single...page.

That's what it would take to hold the simple reforms that would bring down the cost of our healthcare.

One...single...page.

That is what Republicans should offer as a 'replacement' for ControlFreakCare.

Posted by: wheatie at December 03, 2013 03:16 PM (HEPHf)

50 Give us any chance, we'll take it.
Give us any rule, we'll break it.
We're gonna make our dreams come true.
Doin' it our way.

Nothin's gonna turn us back now,
Straight ahead and on the track now.
We're gonna make our dreams come true,
Doin' it our way.

There is nothing we won't try,
Never heard the word impossible.
This time there's no stopping us.
We're gonna do it.

Posted by: LaVoine and Shirl at December 03, 2013 03:16 PM (KQp38)

51
Memo to conservatives: Do not under any circumstance assist Obama in polishing the turd. No matter how many times it's polished, it's still a stinky turd destined to fail.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 03, 2013 07:09 PM (pJF+c)

Not a problem. We'll just pick it up by the clean end.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 03, 2013 03:17 PM (TIIx5)

52 Lotta words to describe a man who's delusional.

Posted by: Oschisms at December 03, 2013 03:17 PM (HJsXk)

53 Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 07:12 PM (g1DWB) Yup... its like Economists who don't understand the difference between Wealth, and Money. Wealth is the combined worth of Things.... thus making Things increases Wealth... Money is just a way to keep score, and facilitate the exchange of things... Thus, the banking industry does NOT create Wealth... it moves it around... so when a Bank MAKES a profit? They are taking it from those who actually produce something... Its a simple concept that most in charge of our money system don't seem to understand...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 03:17 PM (lZBBB)

54 Humanities majors. Science is what nerds tell you it is. Nerds are beneath you. Management is for stuffy old white guys and just ordering people to do things. Managers are beneath you. Computer programmers write programs that work because you tell the computer geeks what to program. Geeks are beneath you. You are important because you understand race, gender and class in 17th century French poetry.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 03, 2013 03:17 PM (xSegX)

55 Until Noonan goes on national television and apologizes for helping elect this cipher, she is dead to me. After she apologizes, she will still be dead to me, come to think about it!

Posted by: MathMom at December 03, 2013 03:18 PM (p68km)

56 It's easy to pile on when the ship is sinking. Courage Peggy, you have it no doubt. NOT. You think she would do anal?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 03:18 PM (0FSuD)

57 Old hippie saw: Visualize-Materialize.

Posted by: 13times at December 03, 2013 03:18 PM (fGPLK)

58 She could have saved a lot of trees by writing "I was wrong"

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:18 PM (zOTsN)

59 You think she would do anal?

A question that could equally be asked of Chris Buckley.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 03:20 PM (Nsoq9)

60 That Peggy's one vicious bitch, I tell ya.'

Posted by: Tara Sackoff at December 03, 2013 03:20 PM (JQuNB)

61
The case for Barack Obama, in broad strokes:

He rose with guts and gifts. He is steady, calm, and, in terms of the execution of his political ascent, still the primary and almost only area in which his executive abilities can be discerned, he shows good judgment in terms of whom to hire and consult, what steps to take and moves to make.

Peggy Noonan - 2008

So, bite me Peg.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 03, 2013 03:20 PM (kdS6q)

62 And golly, maybe if we're really, really lucky he'll spend another four years after 2016 making healthcare even more awesome. :^(

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2013 03:20 PM (BC6cY)

63 shoulda been "wealth care reform"

Posted by: tangonine at December 03, 2013 03:20 PM (x3YFz)

64 "Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work, and lowering his 47 handicap." What??? No more pivoting to this, that and the other every 5 minutes??? How boring.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 03, 2013 03:21 PM (1Y+hH)

65

Obama will deign us with his effluent? I cannot wait for my daily anointment!

Thank you Barack, or Barry, or whatever the hell your name is...no one knows, because you're such a huge liar.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at December 03, 2013 03:21 PM (HQml1)

66 59 You think she would do anal? A question that could equally be asked of Chris Buckley. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 07:20 PM (Nsoq9) Oh, I think that question was settled a long time ago

Posted by: Barney at December 03, 2013 03:21 PM (0FSuD)

67 Argh That quote She needs to kiss my ass

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:21 PM (zOTsN)

68 How is it I was able to tell this ckufing guy was a shit stain before he was even elected? I don't have a degree from Harvard. Must be magic.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 03, 2013 03:22 PM (oFCZn)

69
All we needed were a few simple reforms.

Posted by: wheatie at December 03, 2013 07:16 PM (HEPHf)

If the 40 thousand number of uninsured is correct, Congress could have purchased a like number of policies for these unfortunates for a few million and be done with it.

But no.......they just had to stick it up our ass to prove they could control our lives. My solution is for a number of these Marxist to die in a spectacular fire. From the 60's, Burn Baby Burn!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 03, 2013 03:22 PM (pJF+c)

70 I tell clients all the time that we can get them a judgment but what we think they want is money.   Those are not the same things.

Let's apply this to another topic under discussion today.   I feel utterly certain that those who placed in the Michigan state constitution the provision that pensions could not be diminished truly believed that those words served as an utter bar to pensions being diminished.   See!   It says it!   Right there!   It must be true. Meanwhile, reality ensued.

In addition to the saw the movie didn't read the book, there is the truly terrifying presumption that TFG's election represented Year Zero.   All that stuff that came before? Doesn't matter now.   We're in a new era of perfection and so there's no need to learn anything else.   Meanwhile, reality ensued.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 03, 2013 03:22 PM (Gk3SS)

71 At the end of the piece, she suggests Obama's -- and his fellow Wordplay Acolytes' -- belief in the power of soothing words is essentially the primitives' belief in magic. To a screenwriter, there is no difference between science and magic.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 03, 2013 03:22 PM (xSegX)

72 God said "Let there be light" and there was light.

Obama said "Let there be Obamacare" and pffffffffffffttt. He's amazed that he didn't get the same results as Jehovah.

Posted by: mama winger at December 03, 2013 03:23 PM (P6QsQ)

73 When I hear or see "Peggy Noonan" I think of "wax." Nostalgic... Poetic... Ear... Floor... Car...

Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2013 03:23 PM (vTw62)

74 Leftists DO believe the crap they speak... they think a well turned phrase changes reality... All men are NOT Created Equal... Men and Women are NOT Equal... hell, just looking at people tells you these two statements are just wrong... Perception is NOT Reality... reality is reality. The Pen is NOT mightier than the sword... And when you premise your world view on a Falsehood... and try to FORCE reality into conforming to that Perception? Reality tends to bitch slap you upside the head.... as it is now doing to MILLIONS of Americans who trusted our Government to take care of them.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 03:23 PM (lZBBB)

75 I've been making this point for a while.

A substantial portion of the left believes that reality is mutable by words and thoughts. So according to these liberals Republicans thinking Obamacare won't work...makes Obamacare not work even if all of their actual actions to stop the program failed.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2013 03:23 PM (uUvS8)

76 Would it be rude to say I am sick of Peggy Noonan? Now, after Obama is reelected, she suddenly has seen the light? I also think she needs either a hit of acid or a stiff &*!!$%&, or both.

Posted by: Baldy at December 03, 2013 03:23 PM (2bql3)

77
You think she would do anal?

A question that could equally be asked of Chris Buckley.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 07:20 PM (Nsoq9)

To be fair, we all do anal now, considering that 404care is dorking everyone in the squeekhole.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2013 03:23 PM (TIIx5)

78 Yes, yes and yes. Thanks Ace, that was worth reading.And thanks to Noonan for identifying the problem.

Posted by: fran at December 03, 2013 03:23 PM (jegxD)

79 So what's safer -

surfing for pron or surfing for OCare?

Posted by: dissent555 at December 03, 2013 03:23 PM (yR6A1)

80 19 when someone like Obama says "words matter", keep in mind the words "fecal matter" Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 07:11 PM (bJm7W) Now run with it!

Posted by: Martin Bashir at December 03, 2013 03:23 PM (oFCZn)

If the 40 thousand number of uninsured is correct,

***

Ummm, the numbers claimed were anywhere from 30 to 47 million uninsured Americans.

(Not that I believe that number)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2013 03:23 PM (N/Sup)

82 Wasn't there something about industrious idiots being the rue of us all?

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2013 03:24 PM (fsLdt)

83
On Greta: Access Health Connecticut is seeking to disconnect from the ObamaCare website. And so it begins....

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 03, 2013 03:24 PM (pJF+c)

1 Christians believe in "The Word made flesh".

Perhaps Ms. Noonan has experienced her own St Paul moment and the scales have fallen from her eyes.

Maybe not but it's good article.

Posted by: Risaldar-Major at December 03, 2013 03:24 PM (kduZC)

85 >>>Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work. And the Middle Class. This shit is so easy.

Posted by: Preezie B at December 03, 2013 03:24 PM (LmP4O)

86 Noonan believed words are realities

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:24 PM (zOTsN)

87 68 How is it I was able to tell this ckufing guy was a shit stain before he was even elected? I don't have a degree from Harvard.

Must be magic.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 03, 2013 07:22 PM (oFCZn)

His speed at the DNC convention in 03.

I turned to the wife and said "fuck."

Tarot readings in the back, palms in the front. Hot hippie chicks to the front of the line.

Posted by: tangonine at December 03, 2013 03:25 PM (x3YFz)

88 No where in that piece did I read the term "affirmative action jackson" ...

Posted by: ET at December 03, 2013 03:25 PM (uGlk8)

89 Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 07:20 Hey hobo! I know you aren't right in town, but I heard the Boulderites are fighting in cheese aisles all over town, in a panic over the snow event!

Posted by: Meremortal at December 03, 2013 03:25 PM (1Y+hH)

90 Hey! I think I've found a nice acorn! Maybe a walnut, I'm not sure. Boy, this doesn't happen often!

Posted by: A Blind Squirrel With An Amazing Resemblence To Peggy Noonan at December 03, 2013 03:25 PM (DLu2s)

91 For the 9,000th time... I give you: President Chauncey Gardner As bright as a broom handle.

Posted by: RobM1981 at December 03, 2013 03:26 PM (zurJC)

92 The only legitimate reason to vote for Barack Obama is if you wanted to watch the United States' Constitution fail horribly.

One can respect that opinion. One might think it terribly misguided or even evil, but it at least accounts for the facts.

"It'll be historic", "his pants crease real good", and (especially) "he's the best person for the job" are not legitimate reasons and not worthy of respect.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 03:26 PM (Nsoq9)

93 ABC News tonight did a segment on how obamacare website was now working. Lo and behold ABC found a FL woman who had trouble with the website a month ago but now...is "surprised at how easy it was" to enroll. It was a scene out of an informercial. So, yeah, Dummy Noonan, bullshit words are effective when accompanied by the medium of television.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2013 03:26 PM (vTw62)

94 So we are all agreed Noonan is a washed up drama queen, opportunist now figuring out Obama is a fucking idiot and wants us to give her credit for this revelation? I guess her "Jungle Fever" has worn off. http://tinyurl.com/peexup8

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 03:26 PM (0FSuD)

95 Ummm, the numbers claimed were anywhere from 30 to 47 million uninsured Americans. (Not that I believe that number) Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2013 07:23 PM (N/Sup) Soon. Soon.

Posted by: J. Sebeezlebub at December 03, 2013 03:27 PM (1Y+hH)

96 In other words, dumber than a box of rocks. Seriously, how high an IQ do you have to have to understand that just because something sounds good in a speech, doesn't mean it will work in the real world

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2013 03:27 PM (mck3/)

97 Anyone who *didn't* see this coming 8 years ago, raise your hand...

Seriously. You'd have to be fn retarded to not have.

Posted by: tangonine at December 03, 2013 03:28 PM (x3YFz)

98 And if she has heard about the "unrealness" of this administration for FOUR YEARS, she sure as shit wasn't writing about it. Thanks for nothing, Noonan

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:28 PM (zOTsN)

99 Â“There are only four types of officer. First, there are the lazy, stupid ones. Leave them alone, they do no harmÂ…Second, there are the hard- working, intelligent ones. They make excellent staff officers, ensuring that every detail is properly considered. Third, there are the hard- working, stupid ones. These people are a menace and must be fired at once. They create irrelevant work for everybody. Finally, there are the intelligent, lazy ones. They are suited for the highest office.Â”

Posted by: Eric Von Manstein at December 03, 2013 03:28 PM (lZBBB)

100 The first letter of the name, I'll treat it like it wasn't there
but if a 'B' or an 'F' will appear, then I say a fo and a fi and I say the name
Banana fano and fo-then i say the name again

Posted by: art garfunkels ugly kid at December 03, 2013 03:28 PM (OdajO)

101 Well, that explains why my father-in-law is a lefty. He believes in words to the extent that he never shuts up.

Being mostly deaf helps, I suppose. Keeps all the dissent from reaching inside the ol' cranium.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at December 03, 2013 03:28 PM (DLu2s)

102 Typical Peggy Noonan: LoFo columnist. All those words just to avoid the truth: Obama has always been a liar. From the days in high school, telling the rich kids at Punaho that he was a prince in Indonesia, to lying about when he quit smoking, to selling the poor on his stupid "community organizing". Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus.

Posted by: Kneave Riggall at December 03, 2013 03:28 PM (uhwud)

103 A substantial portion of the left believes that reality is mutable by words and thoughts.

We all have our own personal truth or some bullshit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 03, 2013 03:28 PM (hO8IJ)

104 How does this talky, superficial movie style airiness fit with pretty fucking cohesive coverups of F and F, IRS, AP/Rosen, and Benghazi, and all of the comprehensive intimidation tactics involved? This is a very childish and incomplete analysis of the outer layers of a dark criminal enterprise.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 03, 2013 03:28 PM (DgCST)

105 Meremortal, heh. There was a bit of a crowd where I'm at, but it wasn't all THAT bad. If there were "Boulderites" duking it out over the last box of Boursin then I'd bet on them being transplanted Californians.

This is a snowstorm, not Hurricane Ike.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 03:28 PM (Nsoq9)

106 Liberals, in general, believe if they say something and can get YOU to believe it, then it is now reality. I have seen this with many Liberals who are also self-absorbed Narcissists, their "world" is created in their little Narcissistic mind. And this is why they don't know the difference between truth and lies. It's all just something from their little non-functioning brains ... very sick, but it explains a lot about the Demoncraps in general doesn't it? And Socialists and Communists and Dictators and Marxists and Liberals and twisted leftist-think.

Posted by: The Narcissist Expert at December 03, 2013 03:29 PM (LkqST)

107
"72% of our policy holders are eligible for subsidies which makes it cheaper."

-Connecticut Health Care dude!

Cheaper for the policy holder, but a stiffy up the ass of American taxpayers.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 03, 2013 03:29 PM (pJF+c)

108 Posted by: soothsayer at December 03, 2013 07:26 PM (vTw62) But did anyone check to see if she actually had insurance yet?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 03:29 PM (lZBBB)

109 Obama should try driving a skid / flying a hello-copter.

Toggle the wrong switch and you're f^cked. As in, dead--because, flying with no wings is dangerous, etc

I can see it now: TFG trying to dry-hump the cyclic stick.

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at December 03, 2013 03:29 PM (omBWL)

110 96 In other words, dumber than a box of rocks.
Seriously, how high an IQ do you have to have to understand that just because something sounds good in a speech, doesn't mean it will work in the real world Errr......

Posted by: Germany, 1933 at December 03, 2013 03:29 PM (kduZC)

111

Wait...

Is Noonan saying that she's not a member of this 'wordsmith class'?

Because...she is.

Ah well.

She's been lying down with dogs for so long, those flea bites have made her crazy.

I stopped paying any attention to her a long time ago.

Posted by: wheatie at December 03, 2013 03:30 PM (HEPHf)

112 Why are you printing anything from this stupid bint who endorsed Obama in the first place?

Posted by: trump at December 03, 2013 03:30 PM (FbbJc)

113 "Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work. @ChuckTodd reports now #NBCNightlyNews" Isn't that what he should have been doing for the last 3 years? Maybe if he'd dragged his lazy ass off the golf course or away from celebrity parties, people wouldn't be worried that they will be uninsured on Jan. 1st.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2013 03:30 PM (mck3/)

114 "The only legitimate reason to vote for Barack Obama is if you wanted to watch the United States' Constitution fail horribly." Actually I would say the President has failed the Constitution.

Posted by: J. Sebeezlebub at December 03, 2013 03:30 PM (1Y+hH)

115 As to the cover ups The had a lot of help From the media

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:31 PM (zOTsN)

116 oops sock

Posted by: Meremortal at December 03, 2013 03:31 PM (1Y+hH)

117 Jeshua ben Jusef: Word of God.
Barky ben who-knows: Turd of Ayers.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 03:31 PM (Nsoq9)

118 Seriously, how high an IQ do you have to have to understand that just because something sounds good in a speech, doesn't mean it will work in the real world

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2013 07:27 PM (mck3/)

Sometimes, good leaders say what they mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpH5L8zCtSk

Posted by: tangonine at December 03, 2013 03:31 PM (x3YFz)

119 Say what you will about Mitt, he at least knows how to get things done, how to manage. The American people elected a guy who doesn't know how to do anything but make a damn speech.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2013 03:32 PM (mck3/)

120 The funny thing is, if you look at the Obama presidency through the lens of wordsmithing, some cracks become fairly obvious. The whole Obama narrative is rife with bad writing: Barack as the Gary Stu, the noble savior, the main character that can do no wrong, while his enemies are relentlessly evil and kick puppies for sport. If I wrote a book featuring this kind of BS, I'd never be able to sell it. The reek of stale cliche hovers around the White House. For an administration apparently made up of wordsmith types, they sure don't know how to tell a story.

Posted by: Rosa E. at December 03, 2013 03:32 PM (ynTYJ)

121 Interesting article. Had similar thoughts a couple of weeks ago after hearing a commercial, two guys talking about how great the golf courses are in Scotland and how well they played, turns out they played on a video game. I thought of how many people think they can do things simply because they saw someone doing it in a movie or they do it really well in a video game but never actually achieve anything except points.

Posted by: Orlandocon ette at December 03, 2013 03:32 PM (SldZ2)

122 "Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work. @ChuckTodd reports now #NBCNightlyNews" What???? No Pivot to Jobs???? Again???? (as the economy implodes...)

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 03:32 PM (lZBBB)

123 112 Why are you printing anything from this stupid bint who endorsed Obama in the first place? Posted by: trump at December 03, 2013 07:30 PM (FbbJc) THREAD WINNER.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 03:32 PM (0FSuD)

124 Can we expect a ski trip to Boulder for Michelle or are the still keeping her under wraps?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2013 03:32 PM (BC6cY)

125 Just read Miss Peggy's article. Many good points about the WH.

I disagree about people's opinion of him.

I think Obama is as dumb as a box of rocks.

Posted by: Jimbo at December 03, 2013 03:33 PM (V70Uh)

126 ....And in the latest case of the lying liar what lies, Obama's uncle testified in court today that Barry lived with him for a while when he was attending college. His landlord confirmed it.

This is the uncle whom Barry says he has never met. The one who has been here illegally for 50 years and was just granted residency by a judge.

Posted by: mama winger at December 03, 2013 03:33 PM (P6QsQ)

127
Affirmative Action had nothing to do with my ascendency to the Office of the President of the United States. Besides, I deserved it.

Posted by: Hussein Obama at December 03, 2013 03:33 PM (pJF+c)

128 I have it on good authority that Peggy Noonan lurks on AOSHQ. Hi Pegs!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2013 03:33 PM (N/Sup)

129 Is it too much to ask for Obama to don a cape, a set of tights, and his trusty bicycle helmet as he goes out to fix healthcare as "Mr. Disingenuous".

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 03, 2013 03:34 PM (6ahup)

130 It's a good column But I still want to kill the messenger (figuratively)

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:34 PM (zOTsN)

131 The crushening of the middle class continues apace. They talk about subsidies like they are paid in the abstract. Liberals really are that stupid.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 03, 2013 03:34 PM (jucos)

132 124 Can we expect a ski trip to Boulder for Michelle or are the still keeping her under wraps? Last year it was Aspen, year before Vail. Maybe she'll go to the 51st state and visit Whistler?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 03:35 PM (0FSuD)

133 128 I have it on good authority that Peggy Noonan lurks on AOSHQ. I wish she'd address that question about anal.

Posted by: Tara Sackoff at December 03, 2013 03:35 PM (JQuNB)

134 I've seen this a lot in my work. Even in cases where there are intelligent, experienced, hard-minded and hard-working people, who provide a clear vision and direction grounded in good data, if they don't take the time or effort to examine how it will work in practice, rubber meets road, then there are likely to be gaps large and small that throw everything off. Put a bunch of self-esteem liberal arts talkers on the case and I can only imagine.

Posted by: CarlB at December 03, 2013 03:35 PM (dPRne)

135 Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work. Bet it's gonna be a laser like focus.

Posted by: The US economy at December 03, 2013 03:36 PM (mETGQ)

136 The most frightening part is that they believe their words to be gospel and the stupid idiots are in charge.

Posted by: Old Man at December 03, 2013 03:36 PM (SudzO)

137 I thought of how many people think they can do things simply because they saw someone doing it in a movie or they do it really well in a video game but never actually achieve anything except points.

BjÃ¶rn Werner has half a sack more this season than most everyone who plays Madden.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 03, 2013 03:37 PM (hO8IJ)

138

119...The American people elected a guy who doesn't know how to do anything but make a damn speech.

And...agitate.

He was never a 'community organizer'.

He was an Agitator...the guy they brought in to agitate a crowd.

It's his one talent.

The sonuvabitch can't 'organize' a damn thing.

He has other people do that.

And when they fail...that's why he's always saying "It wasn't Me".

Posted by: wheatie at December 03, 2013 03:37 PM (HEPHf)

139 Welcome to the party, Nooner.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 03, 2013 03:37 PM (JOgg0)

140 I think Obama is as dumb as a box of rocks.

Oh, sure, you're entitled to your opinion, but may I point out that I'm pretty useful for holding a door open, and no-one has been stupid enough to suggest I be elected to public office.

Yet.

Posted by: Box of Rocks at December 03, 2013 03:37 PM (DLu2s)

141 This broad killed me when she was tossin' serious Obamasalad in 2007/2008. I can never figure this shit out...

Posted by: scottythrust at December 03, 2013 03:37 PM (bmrPl)

142
The only thing that bastard is gonna work on for 3 years is his golf game.

Its the Healthcare Hunger Games for the rest of us.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 03, 2013 03:38 PM (caCiW)

143 The landlord of Obama's DUI Uncle Illegal also testified that Obama lived with his DUI Uncle in the late 1980s. Obama has repeatedly said he never has met his DUI Uncle Illegal.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 03, 2013 03:38 PM (ZPrif)

144 >>Actually I would say the President has failed the Constitution. An increasing number of legal experts agree with you. The House Judiciary Committee had a hearing on this very topic today and it was pretty obvious that only the very far left believes Obama hasn't greatly exceeded his authority on a number of issues, some of which might rise to the level of impeachment. Yes, the impeachment term was kicked around. Pretty eye opening.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 03:39 PM (g1DWB)

145 "104 How does this talky, superficial movie style airiness fit with pretty fucking cohesive coverups of F and F, IRS, AP/Rosen, and Benghazi, and all of the comprehensive intimidation tactics involved? " Well, they have a lot of help from the news media. If the journalists did their jobs the cover-ups would have failed.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2013 03:39 PM (mck3/)

146
President Obama's goons wouldn't let me sell my mistletoe in the town square to pay for my braces. President Obama is not a good man, and he tells a lot of fibs.

Posted by: 9-year old girl at December 03, 2013 03:40 PM (pJF+c)

147 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 03, 2013 07:38 PM (ZPrif) the question is... why is that even brought up? Either he is here illegally, or he is here Legally... But... Hm.... if Obama KNEW he was illegal, and did anything to help him stay, it still a FELONY.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 03:41 PM (lZBBB)

148 Why are you printing anything from this stupid bint who endorsed Obama in the first place? Posted by: trump

Since your comment comes in @112 it answers it's own question.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 03, 2013 03:41 PM (DL2i+)

149 Great, Obama will be dedicating his time to fixing what he broke. Soon will have the same level of success he's brought to foreign policy. However, I'm guessing that since he's a Lying Rat Bastard he's just going to play more golf and give insipid speeches.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 03, 2013 03:42 PM (6ahup)

150 Well, Peggy, some of us knew this 6 years ago. Where were you?

Oh, that's right. You were singing the praises of the most unaccomplished candidate for President our Republic had ever seen.

( long string of profanity here )

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 03, 2013 03:43 PM (uCNam)

151 Since your comment comes in @112 it answers it's own question. Posted by: DaveA at December 03, 2013 07:41 PM (DL2i+) No, it just shows how fucking bored the horde is.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 03:43 PM (0FSuD)

152 If Judge Dredd was on the Supreme Court, then Barky would likely have been impeached in his first few months over the screwing he delivered to the General Motors dealers; not to mention his mooting of a "writ of attainder" against executive bonuses.

But we don't got Judge Dredd. We got the dreadful judge Roberts.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 03:43 PM (Nsoq9)

153 lol...it's almost as if their sycophantic and complicit relationship with the SCOAMF can be whisked away...with words.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 03, 2013 03:43 PM (54dkR)

154 "Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work." He wrote this plan? C'mon, it was Bill Ayers, right?

Posted by: Meremortal at December 03, 2013 03:44 PM (1Y+hH)

155 Sometimes a crease is just a crease. And when I write crease I mean large throbbing penis.

Posted by: David Brooks at December 03, 2013 03:44 PM (dvRYt)

156
Sometimes I just want to slap that Clogenstein woman from Brattleboro, Vermont for saying nice things about her man Obama. Sometimes I think she sexed him, and that's not a Christian thing to do when you're married. Obama and Mary are liberals to the bone, the big bone.

Posted by: Mary Crackenducky, Cut and Shoot, TX at December 03, 2013 03:45 PM (pJF+c)

157 The house ought to impeach Obama the day after the 2016 election, just to at least give future presidents a warning that even if they do manage to get away with trampling on the constitution, they are going to go down in history with an asterisk . If the (R's) hold the Senate in 2016, they should vote to convict and have Biden serve out the rest of the term. It would be rather amusing to see Obama lose his pardon powers right at the end of his presidency. The country has survived for years with Obama, we can manage for a few months with Prez Biden.....

Posted by: Stirner at December 03, 2013 03:46 PM (l1p2K)

158 It's been pointed out, but Peggy Noonan was part of the crew that bailed on us in '08, without any good ideological reasons or consistency, merely because Obama appeared to be the hot new thing and Republican prospects appeared to be in the toilet for the foreseeable future.

She's dead to me.

Posted by: AD at December 03, 2013 03:46 PM (NmpZu)

159 I thought of how many people think they can do things simply because they saw someone doing it in a movie or they do it really well in a video game but never actually achieve anything except points. Posted by: Orlandocon ette at December 03, 2013 07:32 PM (SldZ2) Why it's almost like you're describing actors. Hey Clooney, you should read Ollandocon ette's comment.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2013 03:46 PM (mck3/)

160 Thus Dame Noonan tries to employ the magic of words to rehabilitate her "conservative" credentials

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:46 PM (zOTsN)

161 Nooner's description is more a projection than a real analysis. She's describing the MFM and why they identify with these criminals from Chicago. Make no mistake, Jugears and Steadman are playing for keeps and are blinded by hatred.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 03, 2013 03:47 PM (DgCST)

162 Peggy's premise is lifted almost exactly from a twitter thread @TheH2 and JohnE had a couple weeks ago.

Posted by: xbradtc at December 03, 2013 03:48 PM (ppCk7)

163 @ hot air >Chris Matthews previews his interview with Obama: HeÂ’s like a Â“brilliant writerÂ… who turns in a paper with a lot of misspellingsÂ”<

Posted by: newrouter at December 03, 2013 03:48 PM (dsgCY)

164

I really want to welcome Peggy back to the fold. But she was one of the mouthpieces that refused to vett this POS. She absolutely refused to listen to anyone but the leftist propagandists.

I cannot trust you, Peggy. I can imagine a day when you'll turn and run back to the leftist culture once again because they sound so warm and fuzzy.

You're dead to me, Peggy.

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 03:48 PM (9sMM9)

165 So, Barky believes his words constitute reality. That sounds narcissistic to me. *points wildly and shamelessly at the link in his nic*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 03, 2013 03:48 PM (GEICT)

166 What???? No Pivot to Jobs???? Again???? (as the economy implodes...) Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 07:32 PM (lZBBB) Yeah, he's going to have to pivot like a laser on jobs after the employer mandate kicks in. Ya know, when employers figure out that a lot of their workers aren't worth the cost of health insurance.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2013 03:48 PM (mck3/)

167 There's a silver lining to this cloud . With Obama concentrating on fixing obamacare for the rest of his term , he can't focus like a laser on the economy. Which is nice . We are sooo fucked .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 03, 2013 03:49 PM (WK8VM)

168

I thought of how many people think they can do things simply because they saw someone doing it in a movie or they do it really well in a video game but never actually achieve anything except points.

*****

Damn. There goes my lifelong dream of outrunning an explosive fireball and jumping off the side of a building onto the skid of a passing helicopter...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2013 03:49 PM (N/Sup)

169 Great, Obama will be dedicating his time to fixing what he broke. Soon will have the same level of success he's brought to foreign policy.

However, I'm guessing that since he's a Lying Rat Bastard he's just going to play more golf and give insipid speeches.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 03, 2013 07:42 PM (6ahup)

Fixing what he broke is called 'job security' in his world. As for giving insipid speeches, it's the magic ability of words to create reality, isn't it?

Posted by: Retread at December 03, 2013 03:49 PM (IiAs3)

170 Peggy is the Fredo of conservatives

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:49 PM (zOTsN)

171 Grrr, grrr, good guys beat bad guys.

Everyone seems to have missed the main problem with this. The people working this administration ALWAYS have the good guys and the bad guys reversed.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at December 03, 2013 03:49 PM (kxSZr)

172 Peggy's premise is lifted almost exactly from a twitter thread @TheH2 and JohnE had a couple weeks ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 03, 2013 03:49 PM (Nsoq9)

173

I've been calling this clown President Saystuff for 5 years.

On Monday, he says stuff. On Tuesday he says some other stuff. It might be completely opposite of what he said yesterday. It might be an easily disprovable lie. Doesn't matter. He says stuff. If enough people believe him, he gets to do whatever he wants.

Posted by: Warden at December 03, 2013 03:50 PM (HzhBE)

174 the chattering class still operates under error that lazy and boring president stutterfuck is a wordsmith. Have you listened to the guy? His off the cuff remarks are a trainwreck and his prepared remarks are blatant lies that illustrate his is completely cutoff from the policy and implementation side of things.

Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 03:50 PM (3RFv9)

175 Peggy Noonan anal has 1,080,000 Google hits. So that answers that question.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 03, 2013 03:51 PM (oFCZn)

176 Thus Dame Noonan tries to employ the magic of words to rehabilitate her "conservative" credentials

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 07:46 PM (zOTsN)

Fuck that shit; she may as well go see a gypsy to try and communicate with Reagan, who'd probably tell her "There you go again. The morons didn't leave you; you left the Horde". But at least she'd have JeffB.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 03, 2013 03:51 PM (JOgg0)

177 Chattering class still under the impression anyone is listening to them

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:51 PM (zOTsN)

178 As Orwell said, The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink. Source in name.

Posted by: wooga at December 03, 2013 03:51 PM (szP/x)

179 104 This is a very childish and incomplete analysis of the outer layers of a dark criminal enterprise - Exactly. The words are just the sparkly distraction while they secretly wreak destruction.

Posted by: votermom at December 03, 2013 03:52 PM (nHgKp)

180 The old bag should STFU. She was pulling some serious Lewinsky on Obama in 2008. You don't ever come back.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 03, 2013 03:52 PM (VxV3H)

181 Peggy Noonan in... Anal Fisting Freaks #98

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 03, 2013 03:52 PM (oFCZn)

182 Ewwww

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 03:53 PM (zOTsN)

183 72 God said "Let there be light" and there was light. Obama said "Let there be Obamacare" and pffffffffffffttt. He's amazed that he didn't get the same results as Jehovah. - And on the seventh term, He rested.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 03, 2013 03:54 PM (PjgvN)

184 Peggy Noonan, who endorsed Obama in '08? That Peggy Noonan.
I would not pee on her if she were on fire.

Posted by: navybrat at December 03, 2013 03:56 PM (Yyjxy)

185 "Rinse and spit, repeat, rinse and spit.......Jeebus, this taste in my mouth has to go away someday!

Posted by: Peggy Noonan Needs Another Case Of Scope Minty Fresh! at December 03, 2013 03:56 PM (DLu2s)

186 God said "Let there be light" and there was light.

Obama said "Let there be Obamacare" and pffffffffffffttt. He's amazed that he didn't get the same results as Jehovah.
---
~~Union~~ government labor, no doubt.

Posted by: Retread at December 03, 2013 03:57 PM (IiAs3)

187 I Bing-ed "Does Peggy Noonan do Anal?" and got 357,000 hits.

Just in case you were curious.

Posted by: johnd01 at December 03, 2013 03:58 PM (r0+v0)

188 IIRC Peggy Noonan was one of many breathless Republicans who could hardly wait to vote for Obama back in 2008. Her vote in 2012? But now she's awakened from her HopeTopia induced coma and wants the rest of us to know what a colossal mistake has been made. Yeah spare me Peggy. Thanks for nothing.

Posted by: whyme at December 03, 2013 03:58 PM (l9mF2)

189 Obama said "Let there be Obamacare" and pffffffffffffttt. He's amazed that he didn't get the same results as Jehovah. ****** funny because it's true. He checked the box that said "make Obamacare" and not the one that said "don't make Obamacare", so what more executive guidance or oversight did underlings need????

Posted by: oejay44cday at December 03, 2013 03:59 PM (3RFv9)

190 I'm watching a program about Stalin and FDR. FDR always thought he could "handle" everybody. That he could "handle" Stalin if he just met him alone without that meddlesome Churchill. What an idiot! Another one whose staff was mostly soviet agents. Asshole. FDR was the epitome of a "wordsmith."

Posted by: Penis Love Vagina at December 03, 2013 03:59 PM (kkbgQ)

191 IIRC, she was desperate to be hired by the JEF as a speech writer The only thing new this column tells me is this Vichy writer is confirming which way the wind is blowing

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 04:00 PM (zOTsN)

192 Wordsmith Class Solidarity smothered in Dreamy Pants Crease Sauce. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2013 07:13 PM (TIIx5) That sounds dirty.

Posted by: Penis Love Vagina at December 03, 2013 04:00 PM (kkbgQ)

193 The line that really sticks out to me is this "Meetings donÂ’t begin on time, " just like how Obama is never on time for press any public event.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 03, 2013 07:08 PM (Pljws)

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During the "Cultural Awareness" portion of my classes during nursing school, one of the things we were taught was that "African-Americans" don't tell time like the rest of the world and just show up when it "feels right". I called bullshit on it as timepieces are quite prevelent in the U.S. and not expensive at all.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 03, 2013 04:01 PM (KlVdw)

194 Peggy apparently bought into Obama's word-reality back in 2008.

I find her simply vacuous, vapid, and irritating. She insists on herself way too much and is in love with the sound of her own voice.

Oh...and she doesn't disabuse anyone the notion that "slip the surly bonds of Earth.." line really wasn't hers.

Have some warm milk Margaret and put yourself to bed. You're shtick is tiresome

Posted by: Albie Damned at December 03, 2013 04:02 PM (cGaCp)

195
The only thing new this column tells me is this Vichy writer is confirming which way the wind is blowing

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 08:00 PM (zOTsN)

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Egzactly!

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 04:02 PM (9sMM9)

196 Altho Peggy was (and still is in some ways) a Zero fluffer, a broken clock is right twice a day.

Based on the last 5 years, the WH staff, advisers, etc all have based their strategies on either Sorkinism, Clinton-era mythology of how to lead/doublespeak, and general theories Democrats have convinced themselves will work without any real-world application.

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at December 03, 2013 04:02 PM (Kiz9M)

197 Don't forget... The first google hit for "Finger Banging Peggy Noonan" is ace.mu.nu...

Posted by: wooga at December 03, 2013 04:02 PM (szP/x)

198 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWYyZ7_Ssu8#t=126 Moves like Jagger.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 04:05 PM (g1DWB)

199 >>Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work.<<

Wait! I thought he had pivoted back to the economy...and J..O..B..S

Posted by: Albie Damned at December 03, 2013 04:05 PM (cGaCp)

200 188 I Bing-ed "Does Peggy Noonan do Anal?" and got 357,000 hits. Damn, bitch is making me look like a slacker.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 03, 2013 04:05 PM (0FSuD)

201 Lotta words to describe a man who's delusional.

--

I go back and forth on this. Actually, I don't. I don't believe he is delusional. Are his words something he really believes, or are his words only meant to fool the people. I believe the latter.

Posted by: Lady in Black, in a dead thread talking to myself at December 03, 2013 04:06 PM (XB5Ak)

202 This is why we can't have nice things. How do I remove these mind pictures from my brain!

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 04:06 PM (zOTsN)

203 Wait! I thought he had pivoted back to the economy...and J..O..B..S

Posted by: Albie Damned at December 03, 2013 08:05 PM (cGaCp)

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At this point, what difference does it make. Besides. That was so long ago.....like last week.

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 04:07 PM (9sMM9)

204 The Full Clockword Orange, might be required, to erase the details, but the Huntress, she was dumb, right, even though she's been right 96% of the time.

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at December 03, 2013 04:09 PM (Jsiw/)

205 Yeah, that linked post was good. I liked the ending: You don't need God to be religious hysteric. All you need is a Dogma and a Devil.

Posted by: toby928© in day four of mourning at December 03, 2013 04:11 PM (QupBk)

206 Is Rupert gonna keep the line drawing of Nooner up for her columns which was done at least three face lifts ago? She looks like Meeka's younger sister in that one instead of Dorian Gray.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 03, 2013 04:16 PM (JOgg0)

207 Is there a reason, other than the obvious, that she feels the need to be so...."gloves on" with her analysis? I mean, the whole preparing us for the obvious:" this bunch ain't too bright", was a little to much. She really thinks she made a big reveal, doesn't she?

Posted by: Kas(ktgreat) at December 03, 2013 04:16 PM (Bl4dy)

208 President Pivot Man. Kinda fits...

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 03, 2013 04:18 PM (54dkR)

209 There are various groups on the left still wedded to the idea of the utopian progressive sandwich. We can have a society that simply gives every want and need.

The wordsmith group explains 'some' of it but not all. It explains the media ignoring reality. It explains a lot of the current administration. I am not a wordsmith and dont relate to this group. But I think I see.

The 47% explains 'some' of it but not all. There sure are a lot of folks in the feed trough. I understand this group.

The pointy headed academic class explains 'some' of it but not all either. This group is similar to the wordsmithers but lives 100% in the echo chamber. I know and understand this group.

There is one subset of the left that I dont get. Similar to the wordsmithers - but the techies. These folks at apple/google/facebook/yahoo/amazon/etc SHOULD know better. They know the code. They know the free market. They are the last unregulated industry. Their very existence SHOULD make the progressive shit sandwich unappealing.

The only thing I can come up with is they know the Democrats aren't perfect, but the steady stream of negative reinforcement of all things conservative keeps them on the left due to a weird invalid binary logic. Not that binary logic is invalid, it just doesn't apply to humans.

Posted by: DONKEY_PUNCHER at December 03, 2013 04:23 PM (45mmJ)

210 Jesus H. Fuck. That bit about the motherfucker at the holiday party that cornered Noonan is absolute bullshit. You cannot get through your first couple of years in any endeavor or industry without coming to know at least one Obama. They're everyfuckingwhere. They are the sacks of shit whose worthlessness cannot adequately be described. Shit sometimes floats. That sucks. It sucks that Obama floated. But that motherfucker at the holiday party is another turdburger bobbing on the surface of the aeration pool at the sewage treatment plant. Or maybe that motherfucker is just a figment of Noonan's gin-addled imagination. Own it, you fucking idiot lush. You did just as much as anyone else to put that purple-lipped cocksucker in office. It's bad enough that you puckered up to kiss satan's ass when he came along, but then you used your soapbox to lecture the rest of us on why we should have been kissing his ass, too. Fuck off and die already.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 03, 2013 04:29 PM (V3kRK)

211 Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 03, 2013 08:29 PM (V3kRK) I take it you don't particularly care for Ms. Nooner.

Posted by: Tara Sackoff at December 03, 2013 04:32 PM (JQuNB)

212 Wow. That was just one vomit inducing article by Peggy. She's learned nothing. Nothing at all. I could just scream at these people. It's almost unimaginable that these people are in charge. Peggy is of the same ilk. She airily gazes over the wreckage from above and still can't reconcile what she wants ObamaFraud to be from what he really is and the damage he's done. Nice to be a rich aristocrat? It's a shame about the serfs. Huh Peggy? Obama is still smart and a constitutional scholar, right Peggy? God I hate those people.

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at December 03, 2013 04:33 PM (Fe2Gr)

213 210 There is one subset of the left that I dont get. Similar to the wordsmithers - but the techies. These folks at apple/google/facebook/yahoo/amazon/etc SHOULD know better. They know the code. They know the free market. They are the last unregulated industry. Their very existence SHOULD make the progressive shit sandwich unappealing. The only thing I can come up with is they know the Democrats aren't perfect, but the steady stream of negative reinforcement of all things conservative keeps them on the left due to a weird invalid binary logic. Not that binary logic is invalid, it just doesn't apply to humans. Posted by: DONKEY_PUNCHER at December 03, 2013 08:23 PM (45mmJ) If they're twentysomethings, they've been through the educational system which has been thoroughly captured by Communists. They've been totally immersed in propaganda since childhood.

Posted by: rickl at December 03, 2013 04:34 PM (sdi6R)

214 I take it you don't particularly care for Ms. Nooner. I read her in WSJ Opinion Journal once a week for years. I could not believe she went Obamazombie in 2008. I meant that "fuck off and die" part. If she had even a shred of decency remaining, she'd slit her wrists and leave a note about exactly how and why she fucked up. Ever having not opposed Obama is unforgivable.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 03, 2013 04:37 PM (V3kRK)

215 <<Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 03, 2013 08:29 PM (V3kRK)>>

BOOM!

Posted by: Albie Damned at December 03, 2013 04:40 PM (cGaCp)

216 This is all a set-up. They are spending the next two years showing how Obama is not all they made him out to be, but trust them this time, HILLARY is - they swear it.

Posted by: robschr at December 03, 2013 04:41 PM (VsRQg)

217 @112 "Why are you printing anything from this stupid bint who endorsed Obama in the first place?" To be fair, he had a thrilling pants leg. Women swoon at such things. I heard that from David Brooks and Chris Matthews.

Posted by: Just another sockpuppet at December 03, 2013 04:49 PM (2EddW)

218 Miss Peggy put one in mind of the attractive, superior, but secretly insecure, sorority girl whose roommate set her up for pledge formal with a guy she sort of knew and was really cute. She then had a bit too much to drink, let herself be taken back to the guy' room whereupon he performed all sorts of unmentionables upon her and she is now doing the ultimate walk of shame back to the Kappa house at 1145 a.m., taffeta in awrinkle, with a bit of chafed limp and dripping out of someplace she has not dripped out of before.

Posted by: Fasdluer at December 03, 2013 04:49 PM (YBusZ)

219 FRONT TOWARD LEFT. Claymore reference? Love it!

Posted by: Charts and Darts at December 03, 2013 04:51 PM (P/s2U)

220 Peggy is pretty close. These are talkers, not doers. This is why Obama thought he could solve the Middle-East problem if he could just talk to the counties' leaders, just find the right words to convince them his vision is the right one. These are unserious, inexperienced, know-it-all dreamers who are divorced from reality and have gotten everything they have through nothing but talk and never had to put them to the test in the Real World. Until now. It also explains why this administration is so intent on silencing the voices of their competition. There's nothing wrong with Obama's ideas, it's just that those Other Guys are telling lies about us. It's all about the message, and Those Guys and The Media are sabotaging his brilliant ideas by bad-mouthing them. In that frame of reference, there's every justification for using the IRS or the FBI or the NSA to shut down people who say things that shouldn't be said. The reality of what they're talking about isn't important, but their talk interferes with Obama's reality of The Message, and they can no more tolerate it than if their opposition had planted bombs in the capitol.

Posted by: Socratease at December 03, 2013 04:52 PM (3V4IJ)

221 @217 "This is all a set-up. They are spending the next two years showing how Obama is not all they made him out to be, but trust them this time, HILLARY is - they swear it." And just forget that Hillary is the person SCOAMF felt best suited to deal with Putin, Assad, and Khamanei right before Iran got the bomb. By 2016, she'll have a residence in Arkansas, acting as much a Democratic outsider as Ron Wyden, and she'll be running an anti-Washington campaign.

Posted by: Just another sockpuppet at December 03, 2013 04:53 PM (2EddW)

222 211. "purple-lipped cocksucker" Fine writing like THAT is what keeps me coming back here.

Posted by: Fasdluer at December 03, 2013 04:54 PM (YBusZ)

223 194 The line that really sticks out to me is this "Meetings donÂ’t begin on time, " just like how Obama is never on time for press any public event. Posted by: Buzzion at December 03, 2013 07:08 PM (Pljws) ----------- During the "Cultural Awareness" portion of my classes during nursing school, one of the things we were taught was that "African-Americans" don't tell time like the rest of the world and just show up when it "feels right". I called bullshit on it as timepieces are quite prevelent in the U.S. and not expensive at all. *** At the large inner city Detroit hospital where I worked the formal term for it was "BPT. Black people's time".

Posted by: Fasdluer at December 03, 2013 04:58 PM (YBusZ)

224 These folks at apple/google/facebook/yahoo/amazon/etc SHOULD know better. They know the code. They know the free market. They are the last unregulated industry. I've been in this industry since 1990. I studied engineering yet ended up in this field. There is no way I would waste my time pursuing an engineer/surveyor license and then career because the pay in this industry is so far out of whack. Do you want to know why these little shits are overwhelmingly leftist? It's because deep down, these little beta pussies honestly believe themselves to be the next step in the evolution of mankind. These are the kinds of defectives who fall for the New Soviet Man bullshit.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 03, 2013 05:04 PM (V3kRK)

225 Peggy Noonan is a liar who's a completely different person depending on whether she knows the mike is on. She was also an Obama supporter when it was obvious Obama was going to be a disaster.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at December 03, 2013 05:05 PM (K9VX/)

226 Notice how the WSJ does not take comments to Dame Peggy.

Posted by: Broutherd at December 03, 2013 05:08 PM (YBusZ)

227 Peggy, It weren't the words it were Billie Ayers and his crew what made the words happen. If it weren't for the crew he'd be chummin' in San Francisco.

Posted by: CO at December 03, 2013 05:29 PM (5MGOE)

228 the problem with Noonan's piece is towards the end, she thinks its got to be OR. how about he's not all that smart AND he knew and deliberately lied

Posted by: tintex at December 03, 2013 05:32 PM (n36K8)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at December 03, 2013 05:32 PM (Wd1Zo)

230 277: Her WSJ blog does not take comments. Her weekly meandering column does.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 03, 2013 05:35 PM (R3gO3)

231 "129 Is it too much to ask for Obama to don a cape, a set of tights, and his trusty bicycle helmet as he goes out to fix healthcare as "Mr. Disingenuous". " I bet he'd fly even dorkier than Puma Man.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at December 03, 2013 05:41 PM (FkH4y)

232 If Obama is going to focus all of his efforts on fixing the website, what's going to happen to his lazer like focus on the economy?

Posted by: Dr.Mr.Badman at December 03, 2013 05:45 PM (Xn32S)

233 I don't care how right Noonan is now. She endorsed that fuckface and proved herself a fool.

Posted by: Nomennovum at December 03, 2013 06:01 PM (LQcUl)

234 Has Noonan ever apologized for mocking those who tried to warn what a commie Obommie was?

Posted by: beasn at December 03, 2013 06:58 PM (IFE8H)

235 > "Pres. Obama vows to spend the remainder of his presidency making his health care reform plan work." Well if that won't utterly doom it I don't know what will.

Posted by: Frank Underwood (D-SC) at December 03, 2013 07:04 PM (OpaBw)

236 I used to work for a biotech company like this. Empty labs while scientists spent their time in endless meetings or at their desk reading papers and making power point slides. Our parent company closed us down in May. Go figure.

Posted by: Pervy Grin at December 03, 2013 07:26 PM (xJiNZ)

237 Umm, fuck Peggy noonan

Posted by: Pflag at December 03, 2013 07:54 PM (mUydy)

238 Wow, Peggy, I'm impressed that it took you only 5 years to figure out this guy doesn't know WTF he's doing. Some of us observed at that time that he had never organized or ran so much as a two-car funeral in his life and did not have a single substantive accomplishment as an adult. Others, however, were bowled over by the crease in his pants or were impressed that a black man could, uh, "speak well".

Posted by: FOAF at December 03, 2013 11:51 PM (rZ7kp)

239 "fuck Peggy noonan" I'll say this for her - she's easy.

Posted by: FOAF at December 03, 2013 11:53 PM (rZ7kp)

240 Part of the reason he was elected was that he had no record, only words. He claimed to be opposed to everything that went bad and claimed he was for everything to improve your lives. He saw stimulus work for GWB so he tried it, but didn't understand why it worked for 43 and why it couldn't work for him. By declaring red lines, he thought he could shape foreign policy. Reagan's red lines were drawn with missiles. Most importantly, Obama's words are used to blame others.

Posted by: Jim Curran at December 04, 2013 04:37 AM (7+tbn)

241 This crop of Progressives are like middle-management: it isn't what they've done that is important, but what they say they've done and what they say they will do in the future. That's how the judge themselves.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at December 04, 2013 06:34 AM (1hM1d)

242 Peggy Noonan - now plagiarizing what half the nation has known and be yelling for years. What a five star mind. In the immortal words of Han Solo, which I shall quote in entirety: "Not entirely stable. I'm glad you're here to tell us these things. Chewie! Take the Professor in back and plug him into the hyperdrive!"

Posted by: adc at December 04, 2013 06:58 AM (9BA4z)

243 Peggy thought Obama's words were magic until 10 minutes ago when his polls went to hell.

Posted by: spidly at December 04, 2013 10:16 AM (buP4J)

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