September 16, 2013
— Ace I'm a little less skeptical of Pete Williams' reporting because in the early morning after the Boston Bomber chase, when many (including me) were still reporting Stupid False Things, Pete Williams came up to the camera and said those reports were false, and the FBI knew who the real bombers were.
He was extremely confidant. As soon as I saw how confidant he was -- and was pretty sure he knew the names of the bombers, but had been forbidden from reporting it yet -- I scrambled to update my own post. He clearly knew what he was talking about. He wasn't guessing; he knew.
And, indeed, in an hour all of the media was reporting the bombers' actual names.
Still, I don't want to report this guy's name. But John Nolte collects up the most recent tips and tweets.
Others (not Pete Williams, apparently) say the shooter was looking for specific targets, as in the case of a grudge killing, but as that's not Pete Williams I put less stock in it.
2:41pm - NBC 4 says one of two potential suspects-- the white male -- is no longer "person of interest," not a suspect. Black male is still a suspect.2:40pm - NBC 4 reports [suspect's name redacted] ID's by fingerprints. Outlet re-emphasizes that [suspect's name redacted] was targeting specific people.
2:39pm - Per Pete Williams shooter is [suspect's name redacted] of Fort Worth Texas who just started working for the Navy as a civilian contractor. Still, he used the ID card of someone else who had recently been demoted, so badge was still working.
2:37pm - Police want people to call 1-800-CALL-FBI with tips on two suspects still at large. A black man, 40-50 years old in olive drab military uniform. Also a white man in tan khaki Navy uniform wearing a beret.
To reiterate, Pete Williams says that police are questioning the man whose employee badge was found near the body of the shooter (or by the body of one of the shooters, if there were several). Based on Notle's updating, it looks like Rollie Chance had recently been demoted, but his badge was still working as far as granting access. The shooter used that badge. The question on that score is how did he get it and why did he have it.
Video: Mediaite has posted video of Pete Williams' report.
“What his motive was is a long way from determined,” Williams continued.
Ah-he-hem. I am always very suspicious when they start talking about complex and mysterious motives which we may never quite fully understand. I'll leave my speculation at that.
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Posted by: The MSM at September 16, 2013 10:58 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 16, 2013 10:59 AM (7ObY1)
Foxnews is reporting that the weapon used was an AR-15. How would they possibly know this now?
But, prepare for the onslaught of "we must eliminate assault rifles" talk-talk.
And prepare for the fact that DC has the most stringent gun control laws in America already to be completely elided.
Posted by: The Regular Guy at September 16, 2013 10:59 AM (qHCyt)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2013 10:59 AM (CJjw5)
>>>Our narrative was all set and now this.
The inherent Racism and Violence of Texas makes black men go on Teh Rampage.
Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at September 16, 2013 10:59 AM (3ZtZW)
Police want people to call 1-800-CALL-FBI with tips on two suspects still at large. A black man, 40-50 years old in olive drab military uniform. Also a white man in tan khaki Navy uniform wearing a beret.
No Indian Chief or Construction Worker? That rules out the Village People.
Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2013 11:00 AM (KY+9m)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2013 11:00 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: President Barack Obama at September 16, 2013 11:00 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: zombie at September 16, 2013 11:01 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: The MSM at September 16, 2013 11:01 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 16, 2013 11:02 AM (K5R1m)
Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2013 11:03 AM (KY+9m)
Posted by: Time magazine trying to change the subject. at September 16, 2013 11:03 AM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2013 11:03 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 16, 2013 11:03 AM (Q9qpj)
Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at September 16, 2013 11:03 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 16, 2013 03:02 PM (K5R1m)
Fat Frum would lose his gun in his massive folds of belly fat.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:04 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 16, 2013 03:02 PM (K5R1m)
They were out of fried butter! I couldn't take it anymore!
Posted by: David Frum at September 16, 2013 11:04 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jaimo at September 16, 2013 11:04 AM (9U1OG)
Posted by: zombie at September 16, 2013 11:04 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2013 11:04 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: tasker at September 16, 2013 11:04 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Infused With Liberal Logic at September 16, 2013 11:05 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Diane Feinstein at September 16, 2013 11:05 AM (grixz)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 16, 2013 11:05 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Mallfly at September 16, 2013 11:06 AM (bJm7W)
4 Alexis? Alexis from Texas. Wonder if he drove a Lexus?
You know he knows just exactly what the facts is
He ain't gonna let those two escape justice
He makes his livin' off of the people's taxes.
Posted by: Steve Miller at September 16, 2013 11:06 AM (SCcgT)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 11:07 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 16, 2013 11:07 AM (9jLim)
Posted by: MJ at September 16, 2013 11:07 AM (uUq75)
Posted by: zombie at September 16, 2013 11:07 AM (+cx5n)
News story that the news people will not care to talk about:
If this guy WAS a Navy contractor, one has to wonder just what the fuck the gubmint is doing with its contractor hiring. First Snowden, now this punk?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:07 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: tasker at September 16, 2013 03:04 PM (r2PLg)
___________________
SE DC is still shut down as they search for one or two more "shooters". WMAL is covering this pretty well.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Infused With Liberal Logic at September 16, 2013 11:07 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Mallfly at September 16, 2013 11:08 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 16, 2013 11:08 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: tasker at September 16, 2013 11:09 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 16, 2013 11:09 AM (ZPrif)
We were theorizing the white guy in khakis and a beret was 1] in disguise as a chief or officer and 2] wearing the beret as a 'uniform' so as not to be shot by his pals. But, not a suspect now.
Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at September 16, 2013 11:09 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Mallfly at September 16, 2013 03:08 PM (bJm7W)
Or just "baldfaced lying."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:09 AM (4df7R)
With a dozen government agencies and at least 4 media networks working on this, is it too much to get a confirmation on how many dead?
Pete Williams doubts the D.C. police chief's count too.
Posted by: jwest at September 16, 2013 11:10 AM (u2a4R)
Especially for the WMAL source.
I've been looking for better local sources.
Posted by: tasker at September 16, 2013 03:09 PM (r2PLg)
_____________________
They Preempted Rush and are still on it.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Infused With Liberal Logic at September 16, 2013 11:10 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Joe Biden really smart and man of pepole at September 16, 2013 11:10 AM (mETGQ)
Posted by: RSBejmls at September 16, 2013 11:11 AM (elcxU)
Posted by: president o'bumbles at September 16, 2013 11:11 AM (K5R1m)
Posted by: Joe Biden really smart and man of pepole at September 16, 2013 03:10 PM (mETGQ)
__________________
That's Dean Chance ya big dummy!
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Infused With Liberal Logic at September 16, 2013 11:11 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: zombie at September 16, 2013 11:11 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 11:12 AM (9+ccr)
Just read Ace's update. Allow me to break it down:
***SPOILER WARNING***
***SPOILER WARNING***
***SPOILER WARNING***
Pete Williams throws in a Muslim-fellating dog whistle to caution you bitter clinging racists not to jump to conclusions on the shooter being anything other than a Teabagger who is protesting Obama's black skin.
“What his motive was is a long way from determined,” Williams continued.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2013 11:12 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Pretty, Pretty Princess Lauren at September 16, 2013 11:12 AM (ELdpj)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2013 11:12 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: jwest at September 16, 2013 03:10 PM (u2a4R)
My guess is it goes something like this:
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Police Chief: Twelve people were shot.
MFM: OMG 12 people shot? Anyone who gets shot dies instantly because GUNZ R EVUL!!! That means twelve dead people!
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I hope I'm right. I'd rather the idiot MFM gets the number wrong in their rush to be "FIRRSSST!" than find out that they got it right.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:12 AM (4df7R)
If nobody can find Rollie Chance today, then I think we know what the answer to that question is...search the local dumpsters for Rollie.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 16, 2013 11:12 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, totes not GLaDOS at September 16, 2013 11:13 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2013 11:13 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: RolandTHTG at September 16, 2013 11:13 AM (QM5S2)
Posted by: Andy at September 16, 2013 11:13 AM (qZRAa)
Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2013 11:13 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 16, 2013 11:14 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 16, 2013 11:14 AM (j/FJV)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 16, 2013 11:14 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at September 16, 2013 11:15 AM (ggRof)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2013 11:15 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: David Frum at September 16, 2013 11:15 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2013 11:15 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 11:16 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at September 16, 2013 11:16 AM (epxV4)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2013 11:16 AM (da5Wo)
A box of pop-tarts. They can be nibbled into very scary shapes.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 16, 2013 11:16 AM (9MLX+)
Post Local @postlocal 19m
Senate recesses in light of #NavyYardShooting: http://wapo.st/1bneul7
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2013 11:16 AM (8sCoq)
The question on that score is how did he get it and why did he have it.
This is just a blue sky theory, but if the guy was recently demoted he may have been issued a new ID to reflect taht demotion, and the old ID may not have been rendered inactive yet. If he had to turn over the old ID it may have been lying around somewhere for this punk to pick up.
That's just one idea.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:16 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: VJarJar at September 16, 2013 11:16 AM (qf2kI)
Posted by: © Sponge at September 16, 2013 11:16 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: RINO at September 16, 2013 11:17 AM (qYvEa)
Wonder if the media will remember the OTHER Navy White-African shooter out at LAPD way???
Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2013 11:17 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2013 11:17 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 16, 2013 11:17 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 11:17 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 03:16 PM (9+ccr)
The alleged second shooter is supposedly a black man in his 40s/50s with gray sideburns.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:17 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 11:17 AM (NSnWy)
Posted by: The Mentalist at September 16, 2013 11:17 AM (9jLim)
send tips!
Posted by: willow at September 16, 2013 11:18 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2013 03:16 PM (da5Wo)
It doesn't really matter. That's what the margarita mix is for - to disguise the sweaty taint taste of the tequila.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2013 11:18 AM (CJjw5)
http://tinyurl.com/mlgkvrf
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 16, 2013 11:18 AM (K5R1m)
I can't believe the media is using the B word to describe a suspect.
Posted by: Scoop Juicebox at September 16, 2013 11:18 AM (KXm42)
This just in:
Alex Jones says this is a false flag attack to distract us from Syria, Benghazi, etc.
Commenters probably in complete hysteria at ZeroHedge.
Posted by: Prezzy Tee Box at September 16, 2013 11:18 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2013 11:18 AM (da5Wo)
I coulda run with this story, knowing all along it was a Tea Party Buffoon born with a silver spoon up his ass.
Posted by: Zombie Molly Ivins at September 16, 2013 11:18 AM (pJF+c)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 16, 2013 11:18 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: zombie at September 16, 2013 11:19 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 11:19 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Zombie Richard Jewell, in the press box at September 16, 2013 11:19 AM (naUcP)
.@NationalsPR -ToniteÂ’s #Nationals-Braves game has been postponed and will be made up as split doubleheader (1:05 p/7:05p) on Tue., Sept. 17
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2013 11:20 AM (8sCoq)
A [u[one-time Texas resident?! How is that important?!
Well you see, there's racist and then there's Texist.
A lot of journalists are Texist.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 16, 2013 11:20 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Lone Wolf at September 16, 2013 11:20 AM (HhKy4)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 16, 2013 11:20 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2013 11:20 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2013 11:20 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Infused With Liberal Logic at September 16, 2013 11:21 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at September 16, 2013 11:21 AM (Rb9kQ)
Posted by: Brian Williams at September 16, 2013 11:21 AM (qf2kI)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 16, 2013 11:21 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: eleven at September 16, 2013 11:21 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: willow at September 16, 2013 11:21 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at September 16, 2013 11:21 AM (3ZtZW)
A [u[one-time Texas resident?! How is that important?!
[/i]
Short answer? It's not. but that doesn't matter to the MFM!
BTW, I find it funny that they can tell you where he USED to live, which is irrelevant, but not where he most recently resided, which would be helpful.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:21 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at September 16, 2013 11:22 AM (N2iLr)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 16, 2013 11:22 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: David Gregory gun expert at September 16, 2013 11:22 AM (mETGQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2013 11:22 AM (Wwkwi)
Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2013 11:22 AM (sOtz/)
***
What's so damn complicated about 79 virgins?
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 16, 2013 11:22 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: yinzer at September 16, 2013 11:23 AM (/Mla1)
I mean, obviously the whole "catch a potential mass-murderer" angle is more important, but dammit rush hour around here sucks enough already.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 16, 2013 11:23 AM (AITON)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 11:24 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 16, 2013 11:24 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Heralder at September 16, 2013 11:24 AM (+xmn4)
The traffic in DC Metro is going to be kookoobananas this afternoon unless they reopen those streets.
Everyone'll just have to shelter in place.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:24 AM (4df7R)
Honestly, I tend to think it will be a combination of (b) and (e).
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 16, 2013 11:24 AM (AITON)
Posted by: MSM at September 16, 2013 11:24 AM (ELdpj)
- The suspect is black.
- The suspect is white.
- There is one shooter.
- There are two shooters.
- There are three shooters.
- His name is Rollie Chance.
- His name is definitely NOT Rollie Chance.
- The Navy Yard shooting was part of a coordinated attack, including one at Bolling.
- There was no coordinated attack, no incident at Bolling.
- The suspect is dead.
- The suspect is at large.
- Two people are dead.
- Four people are dead.
- Six people are dead.
- Ten people are dead.
***
We report. You decide.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 16, 2013 11:24 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Heralder at September 16, 2013 03:24 PM (+xmn4)
Too much blubber. He'd barely feel it.
But I bet you a buck he wears heels at home.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:25 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: NYC Parent at September 16, 2013 11:25 AM (HEo6y)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 16, 2013 11:25 AM (j/FJV)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 16, 2013 11:25 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: joanne at September 16, 2013 11:26 AM (CABFU)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 16, 2013 11:27 AM (j/FJV)
Erm...it isn't just "like Fort Hood." That's standard policy for ALL military bases. Only the MPs carry arms.
Posted by: Jeff B. at September 16, 2013 11:27 AM (AITON)
Posted by: LORD BYRON at September 16, 2013 11:27 AM (to/4w)
Its time for A National Conversation on why we drive black men to murder and Why Texas Sucks
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 11:27 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: joanne at September 16, 2013 03:26 PM (CABFU)
One person of interest identified and not a suspect anymore, the other one still not tracked down.
Posted by: joncelli at September 16, 2013 11:27 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 11:27 AM (NSnWy)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 16, 2013 11:27 AM (K5R1m)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Infused With Liberal Logic at September 16, 2013 11:28 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 11:28 AM (9+ccr)
But I bet you a buck he wears heels at home.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 16, 2013 03:25 PM (4df7R)
Two bucks they're red stilettos.
Posted by: Heralder at September 16, 2013 11:28 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 16, 2013 11:28 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 16, 2013 11:28 AM (0axsw)
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 11:28 AM (zOTsN)
http://tinyurl.com/lkjsf3e
Posted by: kathysaysso at September 16, 2013 03:25 PM (6H6o
I think you nailed it.
Posted by: jwest at September 16, 2013 11:29 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Heralder at September 16, 2013 03:28 PM (+xmn4)
With matching leather...oh never mind, I don't even want to contemplate it.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 16, 2013 11:29 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: eleven at September 16, 2013 11:29 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: jakeman Plover at September 16, 2013 11:29 AM (GXKTh)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 16, 2013 11:29 AM (j/FJV)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 16, 2013 11:30 AM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 11:30 AM (NSnWy)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 16, 2013 11:30 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 16, 2013 11:30 AM (8JJ6O)
If there WAS a second shooter, and it is this older black men the authorities are looking for, I wonder if he might not be a family member of teh dead shooter? Maybe a father or an uncle? The age difference between the two just seems odd.
But I've said from the start, i think this was just one guy, not multiple.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:30 AM (4df7R)
My money is on the Crusades.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2013 11:30 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 11:30 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 11:31 AM (9+ccr)
Probably something more like this, I'd think... http://youtu.be/_-NilMpIhak
Posted by: Country Singer at September 16, 2013 11:31 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 16, 2013 11:31 AM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Heralder at September 16, 2013 03:28 PM (+xmn4)
CHEAP red stillettos, because they make him feel like a naughty bitch.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:31 AM (4df7R)
US Senate on lockdown for next 2 hours due to Naval Yard shooting.
Can we make that about 2 years?
Posted by: Meremortal at September 16, 2013 11:31 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Ghost of PugBoo at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (HhKy4)
But I've said from the start, i think this was just one guy, not multiple.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at September 16, 2013 03:30 PM (4df7R)
____________________
Aren't all black people related? They call each other brother all the time.....
Posted by: NBC News at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (8ZskC)
Julie Banderas has a spectacular ass I need to look into that.
Leave it to the professionals.
Posted by: Proctologist at September 16, 2013 03:30 PM (KY+9m)
Always nice to see someone who's enthusiastic about their work.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: © Sponge at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: Joe Biden knows allot about stuff at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Andy at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (T27rW)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 16, 2013 03:22 PM (Hx5uv)
****************************
It's 72 virgins, but in fact "72" is not an exact number. As in the Old Testament, those ancient tribal cultures used dozens to count sometimes rather than tens, particularly for sacred things -- you can find references all over the OT to 72 this and 144 that, when what they really mean is "a large number." And "virgin" is synonomous with "young unmarried woman," virginity being a given. And I'm also told (not being an expert on the Koran) that the attention of (a large number of)(young unmarried women) is supposed to be metaphorical -- that if you die in jihad, when you go to heaven you get anything you want, and this is an example, not literally true.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (QVC7W)
Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (yETln)
3:10pm - NBC 4 says security video shows shooter entering building with a shotgun. Police believe he might have stolen a semi-automatic 9MM pistol from the first security guard he shot with the shotgun.
Is it too soon to blame Biden for this?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 16, 2013 11:32 AM (j/FJV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 03:30 PM (NSnWy)
That's MY outfit!!!
Posted by: Carol Costello at September 16, 2013 11:33 AM (xZ8Ay)
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 03:28 PM (zOTsN)
I don't think we even have a definitive, confirmed report of how many were injured and how many were killed.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:33 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 11:33 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2013 11:34 AM (sOtz/)
US NAVY ISSUES ORDER TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL UNIFORMED NAVY PERSONNEL IN D.C. METRO. #911BUFF
Posted by: ......... at September 16, 2013 11:34 AM (/b8+5)
Right now going through the script doing clean-up/re-write/expansion.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 11:34 AM (NSnWy)
Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 16, 2013 03:32 PM (omBWL)
...who got shot in the solar plexus.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at September 16, 2013 11:35 AM (N2iLr)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now more than ever. at September 16, 2013 11:35 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Matticus at September 16, 2013 11:35 AM (0Mr4u)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 16, 2013 11:35 AM (0axsw)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2013 11:35 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: The Mentalist at September 16, 2013 11:35 AM (9jLim)
That's called pump fiction, isn't it?
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 16, 2013 11:35 AM (K5R1m)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 16, 2013 11:36 AM (yETln)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at September 16, 2013 11:36 AM (N2iLr)
Posted by: Chaos, it the other dark meat at September 16, 2013 11:36 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: CNN at September 16, 2013 11:36 AM (/9IC1)
weird sort-of-citywide crisis. Police chief says maybe 2 shooters loose. dep mayor says no. Half of Congress locks down. downtown normal.
Retweeted by Bret Baier
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2013 11:36 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 11:36 AM (NSnWy)
Posted by: Steve Miller at September 16, 2013 11:36 AM (GXKTh)
Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2013 11:36 AM (sOtz/)
Nobody needs a 15-speed blender to make margaritas.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 16, 2013 11:37 AM (gqgiP)
The shooter said he did it in the name of allah, but he's probably confused. This will take time.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2013 11:37 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 16, 2013 11:37 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Hillary Africanus Clinton at September 16, 2013 11:37 AM (0axsw)
224as of now, the concert is still on the WH schedule for tonight
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That's right, Moo has to have her cocktails
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at September 16, 2013 11:37 AM (W2qJe)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 16, 2013 11:37 AM (yETln)
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Bringing to bear my pathetically lame powers of psychological analysis, I'm going to guess that he did it because he was irrationally angry.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 16, 2013 11:38 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 11:38 AM (NSnWy)
Posted by: tasker at September 16, 2013 11:38 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Adriane... at September 16, 2013 11:38 AM (j/FJV)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 16, 2013 11:39 AM (yETln)
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at September 16, 2013 03:37 PM (W2qJe)
there will be several large tubs brimming with live lobster, and shovels to aid in feeding the First Lady at a constant rate of flow
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2013 11:39 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2013 11:39 AM (GXKTh)
Posted by: tasker at September 16, 2013 11:39 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Weirddave at September 16, 2013 11:39 AM (aH+zP)
shooter was Aaron Alexis from Texas, driving a Lexus ...
Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 16, 2013 03:32 PM (omBWL)
...who got shot in the solar plexus.
While listening to Santana's classic album "Abraxas".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 16, 2013 11:40 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 16, 2013 11:40 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Weirddave at September 16, 2013 11:40 AM (aH+zP)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 16, 2013 11:40 AM (bCEmE)
If these Muzzies know how to play the game right, they'll start yelling "Thank God!" Perfect cover, right, John McCain?
I've told you people that there's nothing to fear from an Obama presidency.
Posted by: John McCain at September 16, 2013 11:41 AM (W2qJe)
RT @EvanMcSan: Carney said WH never considered canceling Econ speech today http://politi.co/187gKIf
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2013 11:41 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2013 11:41 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: suitably adequate at September 16, 2013 11:41 AM (d0dHb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 11:41 AM (NSnWy)
Posted by: tasker at September 16, 2013 11:41 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 16, 2013 11:42 AM (MhA4j)
shooter was Aaron Alexis from Texas, driving a Lexus ...
Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 16, 2013 03:32 PM (omBWL)
...who got shot in the solar plexus.
While listening to Santana's classic album "Abraxas".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 16, 2013 03:40 PM (TIIx5)
While searching for stories on Lexis Nexis.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Prezzy Lookintoit at September 16, 2013 11:42 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at September 16, 2013 11:42 AM (8JJ6O)
____________________________
That means that no one of the same name was a member of any Tea Party group in the DC Metropolitan area.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at September 16, 2013 11:42 AM (nnkXw)
Could be. Odd that someone previously arrested for illegally discharging a weapon would get hired to work at a military facility though.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 16, 2013 11:42 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: BSR at September 16, 2013 11:42 AM (S+72a)
No. You can also know that Rick Perry's racist rock drove him over the edge.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2013 11:43 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now more than ever. at September 16, 2013 11:43 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 16, 2013 03:32 PM (omBWL)
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...who got shot in the solar plexus.
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While listening to Santana's classic album "Abraxas".
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Brought on by a nexus of complexes.
Posted by: Psychologist at September 16, 2013 11:43 AM (8GKDa)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 16, 2013 11:43 AM (+Aarq)
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 11:44 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 16, 2013 11:44 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 16, 2013 11:44 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 16, 2013 11:45 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 16, 2013 11:45 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 11:45 AM (9+ccr)
Back to writing. Reality is far too sad right now.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 11:45 AM (NSnWy)
Posted by: Bronco O'Needledick at September 16, 2013 11:46 AM (0axsw)
Posted by: MSM at September 16, 2013 11:46 AM (ELdpj)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now more than ever. at September 16, 2013 11:46 AM (VtjlW)
Video also shows the gunman entered with a shotgun....the gunman was [later] seen with a semiautomatic 9 mm pistol and an AR-15 assault rifle.
When you shoot a shotgun enough times it turns into an AR-15, becoming a dangerous assault WMD.
Posted by: Prezzy Lookintoit at September 16, 2013 11:46 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at September 16, 2013 11:46 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: willow at September 16, 2013 11:46 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2013 11:46 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at September 16, 2013 11:47 AM (3ZtZW)
Translation: Unfortunately, a note and videos with jihadi ranting were found and a suitable replacement story is being fabricated right now.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 16, 2013 11:47 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 11:47 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 16, 2013 11:47 AM (omBWL)
I know where to go to find out:
http://tinyurl.com/kkn4xvm
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 16, 2013 11:47 AM (JNUY4)
I know the optics may be bad on "form" but Imma gonna get Vlad to look into it...
Posted by: Preznit Urkle X at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Big Ben at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (I5Htn)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (bCEmE)
BTW, my friend, the Navy civilian, is safe.
Glad to hear your friend is OK, but this doesn't smell like a Jihadi sort of thing.
It could be, but I'm guessing disgruntled (former?) employee. He'd hardly have been the first.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 16, 2013 03:31 PM
I was so disappointed when it didn't say "Senate locked UP"
Posted by: kbdabear at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (/9IC1)
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That's right, Moo has to have her cocktails
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Obama will shake his groove thing and Mooch will twerk.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 16, 2013 03:43 PM (+Aarq)
Thank goodness! That's great news, baldilocks.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: La Ratsa at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (NSnWy)
shooter was Aaron Alexis from Texas, driving a Lexus ...
Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 16, 2013 03:32 PM (omBWL)
...who got shot in the solar plexus.
You know he knows just exactly what the facts is
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Sounds like a Beastie Boys song.
Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 16, 2013 11:48 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 11:49 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 16, 2013 11:49 AM (+Aarq)
Posted by: © Sponge at September 16, 2013 11:49 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 16, 2013 11:49 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 16, 2013 03:32 PM (omBWL)
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...who got shot in the solar plexus.
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While listening to Santana's classic album "Abraxas".
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Brought on by a nexus of complexes.
Posted by: Psychologist at September 16, 2013 03:43 PM (8GKDa)
*
I heard he was confused and in between sexes.
Not unlike Cher's kid is.
Posted by: dananjcon at September 16, 2013 11:50 AM (wmU4G)
I expect that those people who brought guns to work are going to experience adverse career consequences.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 16, 2013 11:50 AM (31Nrp)
Posted by: Hairy Reed [/i] at September 16, 2013 11:50 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 16, 2013 03:48 PM (Hx5uv)
There goes my desire for dinner.
Posted by: wrg500 at September 16, 2013 11:50 AM (xZ8Ay)
The fuck is she smoking?!
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 16, 2013 11:50 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppet Hands at September 16, 2013 03:48 PM (3ZtZW)
that's not funny, man
Posted by: Steve Miller Band at September 16, 2013 11:50 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2013 11:51 AM (g1DWB)
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Someone has a hell of a good eye if they can distinguish between a 9 mm pistol, and several others. A highly calibrated eyeball...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 16, 2013 11:51 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 16, 2013 11:51 AM (0axsw)
Navy Shipyard.
So, just a coincidence that the Navy is heavily involved in the Syrian festivities obviously.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 16, 2013 11:52 AM (1Y+hH)
http://tinyurl.com/puadecg
Navy yard shooting: Washington DC police confirm 12 dead – live
12 dead-live?
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at September 16, 2013 11:52 AM (6xhLc)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2013 11:52 AM (NSnWy)
His motive will vex us.
Posted by: db at September 16, 2013 03:50 PM (tLbto)
One wishes that instead of shooting, he'd tried to hex us.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 16, 2013 11:52 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: baldilocks at September 16, 2013 11:52 AM (+Aarq)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 16, 2013 11:52 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 16, 2013 03:51 PM (aDwsi)
If he took it from a MP it probable be a Berreta 92FS which is Mil issue. Which is a 9mm.
Posted by: wrg500 at September 16, 2013 11:53 AM (jShXB)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 16, 2013 11:54 AM (K5R1m)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 16, 2013 11:54 AM (0axsw)
Posted by: Zombie Richard Jewell, in the press box at September 16, 2013 11:55 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: tasker at September 16, 2013 11:55 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 16, 2013 11:56 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: The MSM at September 16, 2013 11:58 AM (bKA83)
Posted by: SuaveJav at September 16, 2013 11:59 AM (qQk+U)
"He lived with me three years," a Texas man named Nutpisit Suthamtewakul told the Star-Telegram, calling Alexis his "best friend." He said Alexis had been working for a computer contractor. "I don't think he'd do this," said Suthamtewakul. "He has a gun but I don't think he's that stupid. He didn't seem aggressive to me." Alexis's motive remains unknown.
used his own ID
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 11:59 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Baldy at September 16, 2013 12:01 PM (tyDFN)
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 12:01 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 16, 2013 12:03 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: troyriser at September 16, 2013 12:03 PM (gNlvW)
>>Someone has a hell of a good eye if they can distinguish between a 9 mm pistol, and several others. A highly calibrated eyeball....
.
.Not really, I can spot a Beretta 92F (M9) a half a mile away.
Posted by: Registered Voter at September 16, 2013 12:03 PM (AHX9J)
Nutpisit Suthamtewakul
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Good lord.....
Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 16, 2013 04:02 PM (aDwsi)
No kidding. You have any idea how many points you'd get for that name in Scrabble????
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 16, 2013 12:04 PM (TIIx5)
No more rhymes now, I mean it!
Posted by: Vizzini at September 16, 2013 12:07 PM (knoK7)
No more rhymes now, I mean it!
Posted by: Vizzini at September 16, 2013 04:07 PM (knoK7)
Anyone care for a peanut?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 16, 2013 12:08 PM (TIIx5)
Ft Worth paper now saying a woman who was his neighbor said he shot his gun through her floor. She was convinced he was trying to kill her as he had called the police on her for noise complaints several times before. He told the cops he was cleaning his gun
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 12:09 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 16, 2013 12:09 PM (nt7Fo)
From the Star-Telegram (LINK: http://preview.tinyurl.com/kk3qmys):
"He had seen Alexis meditate and said he always remained calm around him.
“I can’t believe he would do anything like this,” Srisan said. “He always behaved well around me.”
He had previously lived in Flushing, N.Y., from 2000 to 2002. It is unclear where he lived from 2002 until he moved to Fort Worth."
Posted by: mrp at September 16, 2013 12:11 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 16, 2013 12:12 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 12:13 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 12:13 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 12:14 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2013 12:16 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 16, 2013 12:17 PM (KL49F)
Oh and his room mate saw him "meditate."Interesting...
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 04:14 PM (9+ccr)
On a small rug.......pointing southeast. Not to mention the dedication, he'd meditate what, 4 or 5 times a day......
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 16, 2013 12:18 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2013 12:19 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Baldy at September 16, 2013 12:20 PM (tyDFN)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at September 16, 2013 12:20 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 16, 2013 12:23 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2013 12:24 PM (WEV+8)
Sure sounds like a typical terror attack.
Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2013 04:24 PM (WEV+
"
Exactly. As soon as I saw "not terror" on Drudge, I thought, "uh-huh, suuuure".
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 16, 2013 12:29 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: thunderb at September 16, 2013 12:31 PM (HwY8m)
KATU News @KATUNews 3m
JUST IN: Mayor says an additional victim died in #NavyYardShooting. 13 total people dead, including gunman. (via @AP)
Expand
Posted by: Baldy at September 16, 2013 12:31 PM (tyDFN)
284shooter was Aaron Alexis from Texas, driving a Lexus ...
Posted by: Pepe Loco at September 16, 2013 03:32 PM (omBWL)
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...who got shot in the solar plexus.
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While listening to Santana's classic album "Abraxas".
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Brought on by a nexus of complexes.
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A result of latex anaphyllaxis
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at September 16, 2013 12:33 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: Sarahw at September 16, 2013 12:39 PM (LYwCh)
I mean, the bodies aren't even cold yet, facts are unknown and this piece of shit fraud writes that pablum?
Posted by: Marcus at September 16, 2013 12:40 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: zombie at September 16, 2013 03:19 PM (+cx5n)
f. Demonic possession, which could conceivably cover all the others, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2013 12:41 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 16, 2013 12:48 PM (qKhK4)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 16, 2013 03:36 PM (R8hU
Any guy is a contractor, when confronted with a picture of Helen Thomas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2013 12:51 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Sarahw at September 16, 2013 12:57 PM (LYwCh)
had previously lived in Flushing, N.Y., from 2000 to 2002. It is
unclear where he lived from 2002 until he moved to Fort Worth."
Posted by: mrp at September 16, 2013 04:11 PM (HjPtV)
He lived in Flushing? Obviously a co-conspirator with Joe the Plumber!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2013 01:05 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Daily Mail at September 16, 2013 01:08 PM (i7KmQ)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 16, 2013 01:09 PM (K5R1m)
Posted by: oilcan at September 16, 2013 02:13 PM (VGo/P)
He's Amy Bishop without the haircut.
Pish tosh to his PTSD. What he is, or was, is a nut - a meanparanoid, narcissistic, rage-bearing, hypersensistive pressure cooker.
Posted by: sarahw at September 16, 2013 02:16 PM (LYwCh)
Must be another "work related" shooting
Posted by: Barry from DC at September 16, 2013 02:19 PM (e8kgV)
Put a fund together that will help the families of the victims with expenses.
You talk the talk about being morally better than your ideological opponents.
It's time to walk the walk.
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at September 16, 2013 02:35 PM (klGLB)
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