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November 27, 2013

Plus Ã‡a Change: Left Media Is Now Going Back to Clinton Playbook, Declaring Of Course Presidents Lie, You Idiots, and That's a Good Thing
— Ace

During Monica-Gate, the press suddenly took a very keen interest in the proposition that Everyone Lies About Sex, and ran quite a few articles advancing this proposition.

You can't teach an old leftist new tricks, but they can adapt old tricks to cover new situations.

Old and Busted: Everyone lies about sex

New Hotness: Everyone lies about the most consequential legislation in a decade

At CNN -- supposedly a neutral news reporting organization -- an article now declares Of Course Presidents Lie, and adds this:

You might say lying is the verbal lubricant that keeps the Oval Office engine running.

This idiot divides lies into two categories, forgivable and unforgivable. The former are lies intended to "help people," and the latter are lies intended to protect and extend political power.

Guess which category he claims Obama's huge lies fall into? He doesn't even consider the possibility that Obama may have lied to protect his political power.

And because Obama's been telling a lot of lies, he goes further: Hey, the lies about what the NSA does are also in the category of "helping people," because, you know, he's so keen on anti-terrorism.

But he's not done yet-- because he's determined to excuse Clinton's lies, too, by his forgivable/unforgivable test. Amazing:

The ultimate test of whether the American public will accept a lie from a president is if the nation determines that the lie serves the national interests.
That distinction is why Bill Clinton remains popular, and George W. Bush remains reviled for his "lie," says Allan Cooper, a political scientist and historian at Otterbein University in Ohio.
In a nationally televised address in 2003, Bush said that invading Iraq was necessary "to eliminate weapons of mass destruction."
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised," Bush said.
Clinton told the nation that he did "not have sexual relations with that woman."
I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
"Clinton's lies about a sexual affair were understandable given his interest to protect his marriage and to shield the nation's children from having to ask their parents to explain the phenomenon of oral sex," Cooper says.

Uh-huh.

So just to recap, of the recent presidents whose legacies are still political hot topics and influence the results in current elections, the objective news organization finds the following division between forgivable and unforgivable lies:

Clinton: Forgivable. He wanted to spare his wife pain, and is such a Boy Scout that he sought to keep the topic of oral sex from the children. Unlike Republicans, who wanted to talk to kids about blowjobs.

Bush: Unforgivable. He lied just to lie because that's what liars do when they lie which is always.

Obama: Forgivable. He just wanted to "help people" and "protect Americans" and stuff. Did you see Batman: The Dark Knight? Well Obama isn't the hero America deserves, but he's the hero America needs.

Not a great joke. But they parody themselves. What is left for a wise-ass?

From James Taranto, who scrutinizes this claim that Obama's lie was offered for the benefit of And the Middle Class, and finds the record does not support that. Throughout the Administration's roll-out, they sought to dishonestly spin and throw blame to others... which I'm pretty sure would be lies to protect political power, and, hence, unforgivable.

Posted by: Ace at 09:54 AM | Comments (183)
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1 You might say lying is the verbal lubricant that keeps the Oval Office engine running.

Yeah. I see where this is headed...

Posted by: The Chicken at November 27, 2013 09:55 AM (8ZskC)

2 He only beats us when we upset him.

Posted by: garrett at November 27, 2013 09:55 AM (ThG3L)

3 "Verbal lubricant" and Obama. Ick.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 27, 2013 09:55 AM (JRmiD)

4 My fist across your nose is really a love tap

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 09:56 AM (t3UFN)

5 It's for your own good , dummies .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 27, 2013 09:56 AM (XWw96)

6 So...

The next time a Republican president camouflages an anti-abortion bill as one designed to save the baby seals because he intends that bill to, you know, HELP PEOPLE, we won't hear an uproar from the Left?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 27, 2013 09:57 AM (8ZskC)

7 The press has standards. Multiple ones.

Posted by: --- at November 27, 2013 09:57 AM (MMC8r)

8 What difference, at this point, does it make? -Cankles

Posted by: Jmel at November 27, 2013 09:57 AM (cfFqn)

9 Sometimes you gotta smack a bitch, you know?

Posted by: Ike Turner at November 27, 2013 09:58 AM (8ZskC)

10 Calling them 'work camps' made it easier for everybody.

Posted by: A. Hitler at November 27, 2013 09:58 AM (MMC8r)

11
It's funny 'cuz every time Bush opened his mouth it was "ZOMG, it's ---gate!".

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2013 09:58 AM (ZgBZU)

He's just too smart and too non-ideological to be honest.

Serious, you guys.

Posted by: garrett at November 27, 2013 09:58 AM (ThG3L)

13 You call it a lie, we call it fraud:

"Justice Department guidelines, set forth in the U.S. Attorneys Manual, recommend prosecution for fraud in situations involving Â“any scheme which in its nature is directed to defrauding a class of persons, or the general public, with a substantial pattern of conduct.Â” So, for example, if a schemer were intentionally to deceive all Americans, or a class of Americans (e.g., people who had health insurance purchased on the individual market), by repeating numerous times Â— over the airwaves, in mailings, and in electronic announcements Â— an assertion the schemer knew to be false and misleading, that would constitute an actionable fraud Â— particularly if the statements induced the victims to take action to their detriment, or lulled the victims into a false sense of security." - Andrew McCarthy

Posted by: Lizzy at November 27, 2013 09:58 AM (JRmiD)

14
Another day and another wipe of the palimpsest.

It's All Bullshit.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2013 09:59 AM (KwX0v)

15 Calling them 'work camps' made it easier for everybody. Arbeit macht frei, muthafucka

Posted by: Barack Adolf Obama[/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 27, 2013 09:59 AM (yz6yg)

16 Clinton's lies about a sexual affair were understandable

The legal system clearly needs to embrace the idea of "benevolent perjury" to allow the American Aristocracy to function properly.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2013 09:59 AM (yobtO)

17 Something tells me Barry is very well acquainted with oral lubricants if you know what I mean and you do.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2013 09:59 AM (g1DWB)

18 Sure, a few million Ukrainians starved, but we were building the new Soviet MAN! Eggs, omelets, dude.

Posted by: Josif Vissarionovich Obamvili at November 27, 2013 10:00 AM (6TB1Z)

19 Who cares? We are all fucked. Enjoy the ride to hell.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at November 27, 2013 10:00 AM (ad0Ft)

20 Now you THANK Mr. Obama for keeping the truth from you for your own good!

Posted by: The MSM at November 27, 2013 10:00 AM (MMC8r)

21 From Small Gods by Terry Pratchett:

""My lord?" said Brutha.

"Yes, Brutha?"

"I would like to ask you a question."

"Do so."

"What happened to Brother Murduck?"

There was the merest suggestion of hesitation in the rhythm of Vorbis's stick on the cobbles. Then the exquisitor said, "Truth, good Brutha, is like the light. Do you know about light?"

"It . . . comes from the sun. And the moon and stars. And candles. And lamps."

"And so on," said Vorbis, nodding. "Of course. But there is another kind of light. A light that fills even the darkest of places. This has to be. For if this metalight did not exist, how could darkness be seen?"

Brutha said nothing. This sounded too much like philosophy.

"And so it is with truth," said Vorbis. "There are some things which appear to be the truth, which have all the hallmarks of truth, but which are not the real truth. The real truth must sometimes be protected by a labyrinth of lies." He turned to Brutha. "Do you understand me?"

"No, Lord Vorbis."

"I mean, that which appears to our senses is not the fundamental truth. Things that are seen and heard and done by the flesh are mere shadows of a deeper reality. This is what you must understand as you progress in the Church."

"But at the moment, lord, I know only the trivial truth, the truth available on the outside," said Brutha. He felt as though he was at the edge of a pit.

"That is how we all begin," said Vorbis kindly.

"So did the Ephebians kill Brother Murduck?" Brutha persisted. Now he was inching out over the darkness.

"I am telling you that in the deepest sense of the truth they did. By their failure to embrace his words, by their intransigence, they surely killed him."

"But in the trivial sense of the truth," said Brutha, picking every word with the care an inquisitor might give to his patient in the depths of the Citadel, "in the trivial sense, Brother Murduck died, did he not, in Omnia, because he had not died in Ephebe, had been merely mocked, but it was feared that others in the Church might not understand the, the deeper truth, and thus it was put about that the Ephebians had killed him in, in the trivial sense, thus giving you, and those who saw the truth of the evil of Ephebe, due cause to launch a-a just retaliation." They walked past a fountain. The deacon's steelshod staff clicked in the night.

"I see a great future for you in the Church," said Vorbis, eventually. "The time of the eighth Prophet is coming...""

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 27, 2013 10:00 AM (4df7R)

I remember when

They threw Jefferson down stairs

To save Bill's bacon...

Posted by: Haiku Guy at November 27, 2013 10:00 AM (bIy5N)

23 If I said it, that makes it true.

Posted by: King Barky XIV, L' Etat, C'est Moi at November 27, 2013 10:01 AM (8ZskC)

24 Funny that a story they told to get a law passed--forgivably--just happened to be maintained well past an election, long after the law had passed. In fact, when the GOP was taking the country hostage and terrorizing the populace, they told us Obama was re-elected and that was the authority for the law going forward. I think I am beginning to hate them as much as they hate me.

Posted by: spongeworthy at November 27, 2013 10:01 AM (r5w1L)

25 Yeah, that lie about your out of pocket medical expenses being reduced by $2500 rather than increased by $7500 was for our own good.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 27, 2013 10:01 AM (YGcKw)

26
But it's just a variation of the Left's Bullshit Template Of Scandal Reaction:

1. It never happened/He didn't do it.
2. Even if it did happen, it's no big deal.
3. Republicans do it, too.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2013 10:01 AM (vanqS)

27 I cannot tell a lie: This policy makes your ass look fat.

Posted by: toby928© beating memes to death since 2006 at November 27, 2013 10:01 AM (QupBk)

28 He's just too smart and too non-ideological to be honest. I wonder if all the tools on the left have whiplash given how often they change their positions. Traumatic brain injury is already a given with that crowd.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at November 27, 2013 10:02 AM (yz6yg)

29 So the president lies but the press doesn't have to report the truth unless Mitt Romney makes them.

Uh huh. Got it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 27, 2013 10:02 AM (8ZskC)

30 The ultimate test of whether the American public will accept a lie from a president is if the nation determines that the lie serves the national interests.

It's in the national interest for you to lose your insurance coverage.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2013 10:02 AM (yobtO)

31 Looked up John Blake to see if he wears the ubiquitous nerd-glasses that are now de rigeur for the Leftards. Nope. He's black. Teh blacks seem to be exempt from the nerd-glasses rule. Except for Little Johnny Capehart, of course.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 27, 2013 10:02 AM (7ObY1)

32 Obama lied about Benghazi for the good of the nation. Same thing with the IRS, F&F and basically everything since the day he took the office. We are not worthy of his goodness.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2013 10:03 AM (g1DWB)

33 You'll take your gawdammed news and you will like it because presidenten is hard and stuff.

Posted by: MSM at November 27, 2013 10:03 AM (9u2hL)

34 Obama lies to us because we just won't let him be clear, dammit.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 27, 2013 10:03 AM (7ObY1)

35 Clinton's lies were about fixing a court case.

Posted by: --- at November 27, 2013 10:04 AM (MMC8r)

36 Yeah, everybody lies about death camps.

Posted by: Adolph with the funny mustache at November 27, 2013 10:04 AM (YGcKw)

37 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 27, 2013 02:00 PM

Very apt.

Posted by: huerfano at November 27, 2013 10:05 AM (bAGA/)

38 We had to lie, because to tell the truth would have been admitting that we're trying to control your very existance. Look do you really need to eat that Bagel WITH cream cheese?

chips and dip, ? shakes head.

ride dirtbikes? srsly you might hurt yourself!

You really want me to hold that beer?

It's all for your Own Good!
yes it helps us, but it isn't about Us!
really!

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 10:05 AM (nqBYe)

39 So, a married man who dorks the babysitter can reclaim his virtue by lying about it to his wife.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 27, 2013 10:05 AM (8ZskC)

40
Remember the Huge deal surrounding Stem Cell Research? It got so 'totes u guys serious' that it became a third-rail issue for the GOP.

Stem Cells was gonna save lives, totes!! But then...it went away. It'll come back, though because it's still part of Political Bullshit Theater's repertoire.

And some of you ninnies probably still get nervous and wet your pants over it...like you do with abortion and men having "husbands."

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2013 10:06 AM (FC8Yl)

41 >>So, a married man who dorks the babysitter can reclaim his virtue by lying about it to his wife. You asking for a friend?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2013 10:06 AM (g1DWB)

42 running guns to drug cartels over the southern borders was for the children.

no really.

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 10:06 AM (nqBYe)

43 Obama can't love you unless he has ABSOLUTE POWER over you, and you won't give him absolute power over you if he tells you the truth! Why don't you want Obama to LOVE YOU?!?!?

Posted by: --- at November 27, 2013 10:06 AM (MMC8r)

44 Great work on Twitter about Joan Walsh, Ace.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 27, 2013 10:06 AM (oFCZn)

45 So, a married man who dorks the babysitter can reclaim his virtue by lying about it to his wife.
Posted by: Cicero

Only if oral sex is involved...or cigars...or chubby chicks.......

Posted by: Bruce at November 27, 2013 10:07 AM (QKSvS)

46 Look we gave you a Free phone!
Surely sacrificing your first Partially born baby to us is a small price to pay.

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 10:07 AM (nqBYe)

47 So, if Obama lied, that means Sarah Palin and the Tea Party were right.

Posted by: --- at November 27, 2013 10:08 AM (MMC8r)

48 That time I promised just the tip, and I was lying? Totes forgivable.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 27, 2013 10:08 AM (7ObY1)

49 "Verbal lubricant"

What an unfortunate use of words...Let the enfuckening begin!!

Posted by: dananjcon at November 27, 2013 10:08 AM (wmU4G)

50 Every body lies about chubby chicks.

Posted by: toby928© beating memes to death since 2006 at November 27, 2013 10:08 AM (QupBk)

51 >>So, a married man who dorks the babysitter can reclaim his virtue by lying about it to his wife.

You asking for a friend?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2013 02:06 PM (g1DWB)

I'm working on next year's babysitter budget.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 27, 2013 10:08 AM (8ZskC)

52 So, a married man who dorks the babysitter can reclaim his virtue by lying about it to his wife.

how else is one to learn all the techniques to please his spouse?

it's for Her good!

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 10:09 AM (nqBYe)

53 >>So, a married man who dorks the babysitter can reclaim his virtue by lying about it to his wife.

**

Were gonna need more specific details before we pass judgment.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 27, 2013 10:09 AM (wmU4G)

54 45 Great work on Twitter about Joan Walsh, Ace. I gotta head over and check that out. Of all the Palace Guard, 5th Column, treasonous Commie traitor presstitutes in the MFM, I hate Walsh more than any of them.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 27, 2013 10:09 AM (7ObY1)

55 51 Every body lies about chubby chicks. Posted by: toby928Â©

But, at the end of the night, and all of the women above a 5 tell you to go Fcuk yourself, who do you turn to?

Posted by: Bruce at November 27, 2013 10:09 AM (QKSvS)

56
So if this is Big Media's position now, it begs the question: What's the point of Factcheck.org and the other one?

Oh, that's right...Republican lies, lies, lies, that's why.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2013 10:10 AM (KeJAW)

57 Wow someone hit a nerve! The ole' babysitter yarn is still a good one!

Posted by: dananjcon at November 27, 2013 10:10 AM (wmU4G)

You might say lying is the verbal lubricant that keeps the Oval Office engine running.

We should be grateful

That they're using Lubricant.

How 'bout a condom?

Posted by: Haiku Guy at November 27, 2013 10:10 AM (bIy5N)

59 56 51 Every body lies about chubby chicks. Posted by: toby928Ã¯Â¿Â½ But, at the end of the night, and all of the women above a 5 tell you to go Fcuk yourself, who do you turn to? --- Apparently having a pitcher of Green Russians does wonders with inhibitions.

Posted by: Sterling Mallory Archer at November 27, 2013 10:11 AM (/Crba)

60 Yeah, and it's so funny how Nixon's relatively trivial lies are THE WORST THING THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. But, FDR's, JFK's, LBJ's, Carter's, Clinton's, and now Barky's are just benign little fibs designed to protect the simple minded proles from the realities of the difficulties of Prezidentin.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 27, 2013 10:11 AM (kXoT0)

61 so.

yes we all knew this but will it wreck the chances of Obamacare staying in our laws/lives for ever?

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 10:11 AM (nqBYe)

62 Chubby chicks try harder.

Posted by: grease monkey at November 27, 2013 10:11 AM (qQk+U)

63 Seems to me the best way to protect children from asking about the phenomenon of oral sex would be for the President to abstain from bird-dogging interns for blow jobs in the Oval Office. Or lying about it afterwards. Whatever.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at November 27, 2013 10:12 AM (IJCkR)

64 OT, but the lying upper west side woman who got herself elected to the State Senate in Colorado promising no gun control, and then went full throttle pro gun control was being recalled. Until today, when she announced her intention to quit. That way no Republican takes he place, and the Senate stays tied rather than swinging to GOP control. Weasel. Coward. Afraid of repeal, she took the easy way out. http://bit.ly/1giQBuK

Posted by: MTF at November 27, 2013 10:12 AM (vZNbm)

65 Funny how the "break a few eggs to make an omelette" expression has been beaten to death the last few weeks, and then CNN writes an essay on how white lies (and bald-faced lies) are acceptable political tools.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 27, 2013 10:12 AM (9eDbm)

66 jon gabriel @exjon

@AceofSpadesHQ @joanwalsh How can they say we don't understand the ethnics? <picks at pate> Mother was an understudy in 2 Neil Simon plays.

SquatchPride69 @AceofSpadesHQ

@exjon @joanwalsh Of course we understand them! They're wonderful people. Sturdy, hot-blooded folk who speak with their limbs.

I'm not ashamed to say I nearly peed myself laughing at "who speak with their limbs."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 27, 2013 10:12 AM (4df7R)

67 tea partiers , palin and joe the plumber made us lie.

admit we couldn't tell you the truth before we gained power?

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 10:12 AM (nqBYe)

68
This of course will be followed up by a deceptive poll showing "most Americans" approve of the president lying for the greater good. You watch.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2013 10:12 AM (xIzGn)

69 Apparently having a pitcher of Green Russians does wonders with inhibitions. Posted by: Sterling Mallory Archer

That, and the fact the only other chick has an adams apple and some kind of rash around her mouth.

Posted by: Bruce at November 27, 2013 10:12 AM (QKSvS)

70 This media meme soft peddling of Baraka's brazen lies will do nothing to comfort, console or cushion the impact ofbsucking $500-$1000 more out of And the Middle Class's monthly income. Barack Obama and all his media lickspittles can't run from what they've done. You don't mess with people's money and healthcare like this without serious repercussions. And it's only just begun.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Happy Thanksgiving to the Horde! at November 27, 2013 10:13 AM (XB5Ak)

71 yeah, I have a 12"er in my pants it's just to help you

Posted by: navycopjoe at November 27, 2013 10:13 AM (JFrBt)

72 But if I'd TOLD YOU I had AIDS, you'd never have let me FUCK YOU!

Posted by: --- at November 27, 2013 10:13 AM (MMC8r)

73 So, a married man who dorks the babysitter can reclaim his virtue by lying about it to his wife.

Nope, he had best hope that nice little paring knife she favors is not used to slice off his man bits and put them in the freezer where they will be nice and safe from the babysitter.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 27, 2013 10:14 AM (kXoT0)

The ends justifies the means. What Obama says and does is ALL about HIM.

It is really depressing to read the trip that this PolySci professors spew and they have young minds listening to this crap.

On the anniversary of JFK's death, it was another so-called professor who wrote that the Tea-Party had its roots back to that time with other racists in Texas.

Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2013 10:15 AM (G+Wff)

75 Shouldn't we give less power to liars? And not more?

Make it a teaching moment.

Hahahahahaha, I crack myself up. A lib, learning something. Heh.

Posted by: Dang at November 27, 2013 10:15 AM (YWXTN)

76 Posted by: Lady in Black - Happy Thanksgiving to the Horde! at November 27, 2013 02:13 PM (XB5Ak)

You didn't really earn that money!

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 10:15 AM (nqBYe)

77 Look this SOB lied about his own mother's cancer, so we should be shocked he lied to us about other things? He's a mother fucker

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 10:15 AM (t3UFN)

78 "I'm not a particularly ideological person; I just lie when it's absolutely convenient."

Posted by: Pres. Bronco Bama at November 27, 2013 10:15 AM (23Kgq)

79 "But if I told you I was married, you'd never have married me!"

- Guy with two wives who claims he's a CIA agent

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 27, 2013 10:15 AM (4df7R)

80 Outlawing abortion would help those being aborted...;..I forgot, to the left they are not human.

Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2013 10:16 AM (G+Wff)

81 You've got to pass the bill to find out what I've lied to you about.

Posted by: --- at November 27, 2013 10:16 AM (MMC8r)

82 Nope, he had best hope that nice little paring knife she favors is not used to slice off his man bits and put them in the freezer where they will be nice and safe from the babysitter.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil

A buddy and I agree, that either one were President and our wife was first lady and we pulled a Clinton. The next time we came back from a trip, all of our shit would be out on the White House lawn and the locks would have been changed.

Posted by: Bruce at November 27, 2013 10:16 AM (QKSvS)

83 http://tinyurl.com/l58umge

ObamaCare hands out free condoms

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 27, 2013 10:17 AM (KQp38)

84 Why does Choom Boy lie, and why do the media constantly get away with praising him for it, just as they did with Bubba Clinton?

Simple answer: because they can. They get no complaints for their core constituency, which is made up of self-desscribed "idealists" who would do anything if only their efforts lead to a Better World Where All Are Free, Equal and Well-Fed. A little shading of the truth in the name of Justice and World Peace bothers them not at all.

What's more, President Historic FirstÂ© and his toe-sucking followers can get away with it because there is no punishment. None. Never.

Oh, Ace blogs about it in fairly direct fashion, Poppin' Fresh titters and giggles about it -- and sometimes reminds us that Rick Santorum wouldn't lie to us -- but that is the most condign punishment the serial, constant liars can expect.

In a sense, we, who are lied to, are as responsible as the Mocha Messiah for his lies. We know they are lies, and do nothing.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 27, 2013 10:17 AM (kaGpp)

85
This is totes like that scene in Debbie Does Dallas with Mr and Mrs Hardwick at the candle shop.

Cheerleader Roberta was very confused as to why her boss Mr Hardwick was undressing and exposing his wang. And Mrs Hardwick reassured the young cheerlaeder, "It's okay, you'll understand. You'll understand."

And then Roberta got it. And got it good.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2013 10:18 AM (+oin+)

86 Taking over 17% of the economy is only a little lie like Lucy pulling the football away.

Posted by: --- at November 27, 2013 10:18 AM (MMC8r)

87 Is Obama telling us good lies or bad lies?

Posted by: iran at November 27, 2013 10:18 AM (ZyZIo)

88 85 Now THAT I understand.

Posted by: --- at November 27, 2013 10:18 AM (MMC8r)

89 Think how bad things are going for Barry when the best defense this goof can come up with is is that Obama is a liar. Super.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2013 10:18 AM (g1DWB)

90 This media meme soft peddling of Baraka's brazen lies will do nothing to comfort, console or cushion the impact ofbsucking $500-$1000 more out of And the Middle Class's monthly income. Barack Obama and all his media lickspittles can't run from what they've done. You don't mess with people's money and healthcare like this without serious repercussions. And it's only just begun.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Happy Thanksgiving to the Horde! at November 27, 2013 02:13 PM (XB5Ak)

My post from the previous thread:

#404Care is doing exactly what it was designed to do: disenfranchise the Middle Class. For decades people have rocked along with an untaxed benefit from their employers that helped insure their health and well being. For Marxists, that was anathema, because the control of the resource--health care was not in the hands of where it belongs, no, it was a private arrangement between employers and employees.

Next up in the batter's box, 401(k)s and IRAs, which have allowed those dirty, rotten, selfish Middle Class folks to accumulate wealth for themselves and their heirs--once again cutting out the faceless bureaucrats and apparatchiks. Doubt me? Clinton had a plan to seize that money and pay everyone an annuity, a very low yield annuity to be sure--along the lines of we will seize your $500,000 and pay you $600-800 a month.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 27, 2013 10:19 AM (kXoT0)

91 Anyone who says Obama is a liar is a racist!!! All white Republicans are racist. Just look at them with their ... whiteness. That pale, pasty, racist whiteness. So smug. How dare they!?

Posted by: Progtard 2000 at November 27, 2013 10:20 AM (ZPrif)

92 Just wait until this next election season starts rolling. We're going to read and hear some really fantastical lies. Lies about lies. We ain't seen nuthin' yet.

Posted by: Soona at November 27, 2013 10:20 AM (FtgP2)

93 "OF COURSE I lied about my multiple arrests for child pornography, otherwise you'd never have let me babysit your kids!"

- Hairy Reed

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at November 27, 2013 10:20 AM (4df7R)

94 79 "But if I told you I was married, you'd never have married me!" - Guy with two wives who claims he's a CIA agent --- It's OK, I didn't marry her under my real name!

Posted by: Vincent Antonelli aka Tod Wilkinson at November 27, 2013 10:20 AM (/Crba)

95 OK, Blake is an idiot. Duly noted, and forgotten. You know, these people are totally dependent on LIVs for their livelyhood. If the majority of the public kept up with what is going on, they (the MSM) would all be gainfully employed doing what they are qualified to do; sucking moss encrusted hobo dicks for a quarter a pop under various overpasses.

Posted by: maddogg at November 27, 2013 10:21 AM (xWW96)

96 On Inauguration day what is that silly little oath a President takes????

Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2013 10:21 AM (G+Wff)

97 @64 That's just the way thr donks roll. You knew that was eventually going to happen. Why can't her replacement face recall?

Posted by: Kreplach at November 27, 2013 10:22 AM (ihCPW)

98 These are what's known as "value added" lies.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 27, 2013 10:22 AM (Xlbr8)

99 This is totes like that scene in Debbie Does Dallas with Mr and Mrs Hardwick at the candle shop. Cheerleader Roberta was very confused as to why her boss Mr Hardwick was undressing and exposing his wang. And Mrs Hardwick reassured the young cheerlaeder, "It's okay, you'll understand. You'll understand." And then Roberta got it. And got it good. WTF? They had names???

Posted by: rickb223 at November 27, 2013 10:22 AM (8D0/R)

100 Politicians lie to get into office, we all know that. But when politicians lie about the laws they enact, well that's a whole 'nother kind of lie, innit? It's not noble to lie to adults about the content of the laws you're passing. You do that for the mentally incompetent; you don't treat competent adults that way. I've said this before, but if politicians lie about what a law they're considering is, then we can't make an informed choice of who to vote for come election time. Obamacare was lies all the way down. And enough people have said in polls had they known obama and the dems were lying about obamacare, they wouldn't have voted dem. Between those repeated obamacare lies, the IRS targetting the Tea Party to end its political activities, the MSM covering for obama's incompetence over Benghazi, and the outright voter fraud... well. Can we all admit obama didn't actually win this re-election so much as the office was stolen for him? It's no small matter, but the left acts like it's no big deal. Keep it up, guys. You'll be laughing until we play the knockout game -- that made up story to gin up anti-black sentiment among whites -- on your sorry asses...

Posted by: elaine at November 27, 2013 10:23 AM (GNZ0/)

101 Well, I have my pro-404Care talking points all set for tomorrow's Thanksgiving dinner table discussions. Sure hope my nose doesn't start growing down into the mashed taters.

Posted by: Hipster Obamabot Douchebag at November 27, 2013 10:23 AM (Dwehj)

102 How come Bush's lie about WMD was "unforgivable?" Didn't Bill Clinton and just about every prominent Democrat--as well as the intelligence agencies of scores of countries, friend and foe alike--say the same thing? So is Clinton's lie about WMD also "unforgivable?"

Posted by: JoeyBagels at November 27, 2013 10:23 AM (Oiylv)

103 A buddy and I agree, that either one were President and our wife was first lady and we pulled a Clinton. The next time we came back from a trip, all of our shit would be out on the White House lawn and the locks would have been changed.

Posted by: Bruce at November 27, 2013 02:16 PM (QKSvS)

My guy says regarding Hill and Bill, "Hell, I don't blame HIM a bit, have you SEEN Hillary? There ain't enough whiskey in Texas to make her look good."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at November 27, 2013 10:24 AM (kXoT0)

104 "You might say lying is the verbal lubricant that keeps the Oval Office engine running."

This comment, in comedic potential, outweighs, possibly, anything ever written.

Posted by: tangonine at November 27, 2013 10:24 AM (x3YFz)

105 Here, click on this link. It's not a picture of a spider.

Promise!

Posted by: EC at November 27, 2013 10:24 AM (GQ8sn)

106 of course i'm an elite quarterback i'm just here to get you to the SuperBowl

Posted by: Jay Fucking Cutler at November 27, 2013 10:25 AM (JFrBt)

107 29- yes, that's right. Dork away!

Posted by: The Kennedy men at November 27, 2013 10:25 AM (Aznpd)

108 The Oral Office? Lubricant? I need a pen and something to write on! STAT!

Posted by: tangonine at November 27, 2013 10:25 AM (x3YFz)

109

My post from the previous thread:#404Care is doing exactly what it was designed to do: disenfranchise the
Middle Class. For decades people have rocked along with an untaxed
benefit from their employers that helped insure their health and well
being. For Marxists, that was anathema, because the control of the
resource--health care was not in the hands of where it belongs, no, it
was a private arrangement between employers and employees.

-------------------------------------------------

Think more and bigger. You're right, of course, but this law goes beyond that. The law makes the healthcare/medical providers the evil minions demanding money from these poor poor people. Thus, disenfranchising the patient from the medical provider.

It's an evil law designed to divide everyone.

There's a good article over on American Thinker talking about this.

Posted by: Soona at November 27, 2013 10:25 AM (FtgP2)

110 68 This of course will be followed up by a deceptive poll showing "most Americans" approve of the president lying for the greater good. You watch. Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2013 02:12 PM (xIzGn) ..or, a study, posted on a website nobody reads, done by a college nobody attends.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at November 27, 2013 10:25 AM (DWEgs)

111 The good news is that my family has pretty much embraced my pathological lying. I've explained to them that it is part and parcel of being a "progressive".

Posted by: Hipster Obamabot Douchebag at November 27, 2013 10:26 AM (Dwehj)

112 How come Bush's lie about WMD was "unforgivable?" you seem to be confused. It's really simple: - Dem/Liberal/Statist lies = Good, Very Good Understandable Massaging of the Truth - Rep/Conservative/Libertarian lies = END OF THE WORLD EVIL EVIL DOUBLE PLUS UNGOOD

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2013 10:26 AM (EZNxq)

113
Not only were Clinton's lies 'okay,' but the media managed to turn the tables and make Ken Starr a right wing Christian pervert who was obsessed with Clinton's sex life!

And that, my fiends, is how it's done.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2013 10:26 AM (052zE)

114 ..or, a study, posted on a website nobody reads, done by a college nobody attends.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at November 27, 2013 02:25 PM (DWEgs)

WTF?

Posted by: University of Pheonix at November 27, 2013 10:26 AM (x3YFz)

115 The Costanza Doctrine

Posted by: garrett at November 27, 2013 10:26 AM (ThG3L)

116 91 Anyone who says Obama is a liar is a racist!!! All white Republicans are racist. Just look at them with their ... whiteness. That pale, pasty, racist whiteness. So smug. How dare they!? Posted by: Progtard 2000 at November 27, 2013 02:20 PM (ZPrif) "They don't deserve to live." http://tinyurl.com/nvdfhkt

Posted by: Noel Ignatiev at November 27, 2013 10:26 AM (bb5+k)

117 whoops! I meant to say: Rep/Conservative/Libertarian "lies"(or even just misundertandings) = END OF THE WORLD EVIL EVIL DOUBLE PLUS UNGOOD

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2013 10:28 AM (EZNxq)

118

Posted by: EC at November 27, 2013 02:24 PM (GQ8sn)

Subtle.

Posted by: maddogg at November 27, 2013 10:28 AM (xWW96)

119 Hmmm..."I lied to you because I care and want to protect you". Does this shit work on all liberal women?

Posted by: Icedog at November 27, 2013 10:28 AM (and2K)

120 hmm what was wrong with my tag? is it just "bold" then? gosh that takes me back

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2013 10:28 AM (EZNxq)

121 Merry Christmas, rubes! I just shit in your socks. All of them. Yup. Whole drawer.

Posted by: Obama Claus at November 27, 2013 10:29 AM (x3YFz)

122 "I lied to you because I care and want to protect you". Does this shit work on all liberal women?

You bet your lily-white ass it does.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at November 27, 2013 10:29 AM (Dwehj)

123 117 whoops! I meant to say:

Rep/Conservative/Libertarian "lies"(or even just misundertandings) = END OF THE WORLD EVIL EVIL DOUBLE PLUS UNGOOD

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2013 02:28 PM (EZNxq)

hey some of us post at DPUD!

Posted by: tangonine at November 27, 2013 10:30 AM (x3YFz)

124 But Lara Logan has to go on a leave of absence.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 27, 2013 10:30 AM (M9c1a)

125 dude, trust me this "cop killer" tat on your forehead will scare the LAPD you'll never get another ticket again!!!

Posted by: drunk tattoo artist at November 27, 2013 10:31 AM (JFrBt)

126
Subtle.

Posted by: maddogg at November 27, 2013 02:28 PM (xWW96)

I didn't lie!

Posted by: EC at November 27, 2013 10:31 AM (GQ8sn)

127
soothsayer figured out how to use the word palimpsest in a sentence.

He wins the internets!

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 27, 2013 10:31 AM (tOkJB)

128 124 But Lara Logan has to go on a leave of absence.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 27, 2013 02:30 PM (M9c1a)

She made a mistake. She put out an unsubstantiated negative report on the wrong party president.

Posted by: maddogg at November 27, 2013 10:32 AM (xWW96)

129 You might say lying is the verbal lubricant that keeps the Oval Office engine running.>>

So Obama's not Lying he's KYing?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 27, 2013 10:32 AM (tf9Ne)

130 McDonald cited a New Testament passage in which Jesus gathered the 5,000 and fed them with five loaves and two fishes. Members of his congregation bolted to their feet and yelled, Â“CÂ’mon preacherÂ” and Â“YessirÂ” as his voice rose in righteous anger.

http://tinyurl.com/m7uf3rc

Ya see, because ObamaCare is almost free. Just like feeding 5,000 with five loaves and two fishes. It's the liars on the right that complicate things with math.

Posted by: John Blake, CNN Resident Troofer at November 27, 2013 10:32 AM (KQp38)

131 I'm not ashamed to say I nearly peed myself laughing at "who speak with their limbs." Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 27, 2013 02:12 PM (4df7R) Ace gets bonus points in my book for referencing Janis Ian.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 27, 2013 10:32 AM (oFCZn)

132 Obama credited the Selma, AL, march as where his parents first met. One little problem: The Selma march took place on March 7, 1965. Obama was born on August 4, 1961 (or at least thatÂ’s the date on the birth certificate he produced). So Obama is lying about when his parents met, or heÂ’s lying about his birth date.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 10:33 AM (t3UFN)

133 I didn't lie! Posted by: EC That's what they all say.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 27, 2013 10:33 AM (8D0/R)

134 The legal system clearly needs to embrace the idea of "benevolent perjury" to allow the American Aristocracy to function properly. Yeah! I didn't lie to the IRS, I was protecting my family from the very real harm they can do to us. Oh, I'm not Aristocracy? Can I blame a website?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 27, 2013 10:33 AM (sByIH)

135 "help people"

I thought the preferred terminology was "folks".

This is why I dream of secession and splitting into multiple countries. Let them lie as much as they like to each other and keep me the fuck out of it.

Posted by: Sudden Clarity Clarence at November 27, 2013 10:35 AM (XVWHG)

136 And who is Jerome Hudson? And then I said, "Joan..girl you blacker than Whoopi Goldberg's gums." LOL!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 27, 2013 10:35 AM (oFCZn)

137 At CNN -- supposedly a neutral news reporting organization - I think the phrase you were looking for is "neutered news organization."

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 27, 2013 10:35 AM (YGcKw)

138
I DONT F****N CARE IF SHE HAS CANCER!!!!

I WANT MY F****N HEALTHCARE PROGRAM!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Barrack O' Baldwin at November 27, 2013 10:36 AM (nELVU)

139

That distinction is why Bill Clinton remains popular, and George W. Bush remains reviled for his "lie," says Allan Cooper, a political scientist and historian at Otterbein University in Ohio.

Except professor, Bill Clinton and other Democrats told that Bush 'lie' years before Bush was President. So Bill Clinton should be both adored and reviled right?

Posted by: polynikes at November 27, 2013 10:36 AM (m2CN7)

140 They do not fear us enough.

Posted by: Warthog at November 27, 2013 10:36 AM (WDySP)

141 dude, trust me
this "cop killer" tat on your forehead will scare the LAPD
you'll never get another ticket again!!!

With every passing day, I'm getting closer to going with "POOR IMPULSE CONTROL." I mean, why not?

Posted by: jakeman at November 27, 2013 10:36 AM (ZCe+/)

142 So Obama is lying about when his parents met, or heÂ’s lying about his birth date. Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 02:33 PM (t3UFN) You can always just stop at "Obama is lying."

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 27, 2013 10:37 AM (bb5+k)

143 Obama credited the Selma, AL, march as where his parents first met. One little problem: The Selma march took place on March 7, 1965. Obama was born on August 4, 1961 (or at least thatÂ’s the date on the birth certificate he produced). So Obama is lying about when his parents met, or heÂ’s lying about his birth date.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 02:33 PM (t3UFN)

Obama was referring to a composite march .

Posted by: polynikes at November 27, 2013 10:37 AM (m2CN7)

144 shorter John Blake/CNN: Obama/Clinton lies are forgivable because, Democrat.

Posted by: Captain Glenn Quagmire at November 27, 2013 10:38 AM (1o4B5)

145 I saw Verbal Lubricant open for the Constanza Principle in '92.

Posted by: dantesed at November 27, 2013 10:38 AM (qGM8J)

146 They do not fear us enough. Yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 27, 2013 10:38 AM (8D0/R)

147 46 So, a married man who dorks the babysitter can reclaim his virtue by lying about it to his wife.

Maria... I'll be back...

Posted by: RINO GIRLY-MAN GOVERNATOR at November 27, 2013 10:40 AM (RPDkq)

148 >>Except professor, Bill Clinton and other Democrats told that Bush 'lie' years before Bush was President. So Bill Clinton should be both adored and reviled right? Not just before he was president, while he was president. Lefty's conveniently forget that many, many Dems said the exact same thing after seeing the same intelligence.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2013 10:41 AM (g1DWB)

149

Well, ain't this clever.

(before you ask, no it isn't an arachnid)

http://tinyurl.com/khyegzu

Posted by: maddogg at November 27, 2013 10:41 AM (xWW96)

150 It is no wonder that CNN has lost half of its viewership.

Posted by: d_fitz at November 27, 2013 10:42 AM (awRHi)

151 rivers could possibly be pulled over for snacking, smoking or putting on make-up behind the wheel under a bill that has been advanced in the New Jersey Assembly. The proposed law would fine drivers found to Â“engage in any activity unrelated to the operation of a motor vehicle in a manner that interferes with the safe operation of the vehicle.Â” Getting a blow job while driving still legal?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 10:43 AM (t3UFN)

152 "Everyone lies about the most consequential legislation in a decade" What was more consequential in the 90's? Welfare reform?

Posted by: Scott M at November 27, 2013 10:44 AM (AdBfq)

153 Getting a blow job while driving still legal?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 02:43 PM (t3UFN)

I can tell you that if it is, it shouldn't be. Somewhat hard (heh) to maintain concentration on traffic.

Posted by: maddogg at November 27, 2013 10:45 AM (xWW96)

154

It pains me (well, a little, not many receptors still functioning) to see Ace repeat that idiocy of that moronic "professor" without addressing the obvious substance.

Intelligence estimates are called ...... uh, "estimates". They are subject to error. In fact, against closed societies and regarding vital security matters, they are very prone to inaccuracy. Nature of reality.

Bush didn't lie in any sense of the word. Neither did the intel services of the UK, France, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, Israel, or the US. They got some things wrong. Partly because of an active deception campaign by the target regime aimed directly at those services. A campaign so effective that the target regime's highest military commanders (Rep. Guard divisions assigned to the Baghdad area) themselves believed there was CW artillery ordnance available to them when we actually invaded.

It's not a small point. It's almost become the entire point. This idiotic, hallucinogenic mythological database of non-facts that serves as the basis for "thinking" by the cretins now dominating our world cannot be stipulated, in any degree. There was no "Katrina moment" for Bush, there was no "mission accomplished" moment for Bush, Abu Ghraib was not a "scandal" and certainly not a scandal for Bush, the economy was not miserable under Bush, Bush policies did not create or exacerbate the government-centered and created financial bubble in real estate derivatives - and on, and on, and on.

Stipulate that the Jews stabbed Germany in the back in WWI, that the kulaks and wreckers doomed the NEP and the success of the early Soviet economy, that Israel poisons Palestinian infants with magic means - that's about where most people are in this sad degraded country when it comes to knowing the most basic facts about their world.

False factual and analytical frameworks prevent intelligent discussion. Thus, we see very little intelligent discussion.

Posted by: non-purist at November 27, 2013 10:45 AM (afQnV)

155 132 Obama credited the Selma, AL, march as where his parents first met. One little problem:...

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 02:33 PM (t3UFN)

They can't help themselves. This morning I responded to a post by a liberal claiming it took 400 years for the Catholic Church to apologize for how they treated Galileo.

That would put the apology in the year 2032.

I asked the poster if I could borrow his time machine.

Everything from the left are lies, memes and talking points. I'm so tired of this crap I rarely even argue anymore.

The only solace I get anymore is from watching Obamacare fail in some new way every day. My life sucks.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 27, 2013 10:45 AM (tOkJB)

156 They do not fear us enough.

Posted by: Warthog at November 27, 2013 02:36 PM (WDySP)

Of course they don't. When your "leader" in Congress is a drunk fuckface like Johnny Boehner, what's to stop any of the donks from dickslapping us?

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 27, 2013 10:46 AM (M9c1a)

157 Getting a blow job while driving still legal? Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 02:43 PM (t3UFN) I can tell you that if it is, it shouldn't be. Somewhat hard (heh) to maintain concentration on traffic. Posted by: maddogg at November 27, 2013 02:45 PM (xWW96) Well that's her problem

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 10:47 AM (t3UFN)

158

Getting a blow job while driving still legal?

Only if you nut while hitting a speed bump at 10+ mph.

Posted by: garrett at November 27, 2013 10:47 AM (ThG3L)

159 Yep, Bush didn't lie about WMDs in Iraq. Bush was mistaken about WMDs in Iraq. Still a big fuck-up. But totally different kind of fuck-up.

Posted by: Progtard 2000 at November 27, 2013 10:48 AM (ZPrif)

160 Getting a blow job while driving still legal? Posted by: Nevergiveup As long as you lie to your wife.....

Posted by: rickb223 at November 27, 2013 10:48 AM (8D0/R)

161

I checked my email and have received a form letter from Juan McLame asking for donotions for the GOP. He says that we must fight the liberals and need money to do so!!! hahahahahahahahaha

Hey Juan, you and your ilk stabbed us in the back one to many times. I will pick who I donate to very carefully - as in individual candidates.

Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2013 10:48 AM (G+Wff)

162
Talk in everlasting words, and dedicate them all to me.
And I will give you all my lies, I'm here if you should call to me.
You think that I don't even mean a single word I say.
It's only words, and words are all I have, to take your rights away.

Posted by: Barky Gibb at November 27, 2013 10:49 AM (Hx5uv)

163 Nood.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 27, 2013 10:49 AM (8D0/R)

164 Everything from the left are lies, memes and talking points. I'm so tired of this crap I rarely even argue anymore. --- No wonder they get along so well with the Islamic world on the surface of things.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 27, 2013 10:49 AM (/Crba)

165 You know the leftist idiots who read this shit are nodding along in agreement.

Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2013 10:49 AM (zqvg6)

166 Nude Metaphysics Post

Posted by: toby928© beating memes to death since 2006 at November 27, 2013 10:50 AM (QupBk)

167 Getting a blow job while driving still legal? Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2013 02:43 PM (t3UFN) Story time! Old office had a case involving a single car accident which occurred around 10:00 p.m. The driver lost control and hit a tree and both driver and passenger sustained injuries. The driver and passenger were being kinda vague about how/why the driver lost control and there was some mention of there must have been a deer in the road. The file makes its way to me and I start going through it and looking at the passenger's injuries and noting the contusion patterns and yeah. So then that I call in the paralegal handling the case and tell her that maybe we want to ponder continuing the case due to the passenger's contribution to the accident. Cue staring and blinking by her at me. Cue me staring and blinking back. Finally I explain just what it was that the passenger was doing that distracted the driver so. Cue a whole bunch of you ask her, you ask her, nuh uh you ask her! Lucky for us, the insurance carrier ponied up some cash and we got it settled before further questions were asked.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 27, 2013 10:50 AM (VtjlW)

168 Well put. It's why I don't have any more face to face political discussions with people under the age of 50. Even then I run into an old hippie dippie douchebag who's bought into all the lies, and then refuses aquiesce even when presented with well-proven facts.

Posted by: Soona at November 27, 2013 10:51 AM (FtgP2)

169 A visual metaphor as to what would hap-pen if we had an honest media probing Barky's lies.

http://tinyurl.com/mao8xxk

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 27, 2013 10:52 AM (Hx5uv)

170 And serious people should care what CNN says about anything because ...?

Posted by: VADM(Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at November 27, 2013 10:52 AM (O7OxF)

171 I'm so far behind i put a comment on China on the last post.

also new post up.

Posted by: willow at November 27, 2013 10:53 AM (nqBYe)

172

Posted by: non-purist at November 27, 2013 02:45 PM (afQnV)

----------------------------------------------------

I'll try this again.

Well put. It's why I don't have any more face to face political discussions with people under the age of 50. Even then I run into an old hippie dippie douchebag who's bought into all the lies, and then refuses aquiesce even when presented with well-proven facts.

Posted by: Soona at November 27, 2013 02:51 PM (FtgP2)

Posted by: Soona at November 27, 2013 10:54 AM (FtgP2)

173 When they tell us lying is a good thing, can we believe them?

Posted by: Bud Norton at November 27, 2013 10:55 AM (6cOMd)

174 Given the history of the 20th Century, anyone who thinks communism, socialism, collectivism, central planning, government control, or anything close to it is the answer to anything is simply too ignorant or stupid or delusional to merit anything but ridicule. However, given that most people born after 1983 have absolutely no idea what happened in the 20th Century, this country is likely to crash and burn in the 21st. The fight will be over what rises from the ashes.

Posted by: VADM(Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at November 27, 2013 10:59 AM (O7OxF)

175 141 dude, trust me

this "cop killer" tat on your forehead will scare the LAPD

you'll never get another ticket again!!!

With every passing day, I'm getting closer to going with "POOR IMPULSE CONTROL." I mean, why not?

Posted by: jakeman at November 27, 2013 02:36 PM (ZCe+/)

My LE friend in OR related a nice wild west story from last week. Bad Guy Forehead meets .45 at point blank. Call EMS, tell them to take their time.

Posted by: tangonine at November 27, 2013 11:05 AM (x3YFz)

176 159 Yep, Bush didn't lie about WMDs in Iraq. Bush was mistaken about WMDs in Iraq. Still a big fuck-up. But totally different kind of fuck-up. Not even a small fuck-up. Stop believing the Democrat party line. Bush never said the Iraqis had nuclear weapons; he said they were acquiring them. Prove they were not. The Clinton administration said the same thing. How exactly did Bush & company convince Tony Blair? Did you really expect a squad of infantry to kick open a warehouse door and shazaam, there they are? Nuc bombs stacked to the ceiling. If not, what exactly did you expect? One thing is for sure: the Iraqis ain't got em now.

Posted by: VADM(Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at November 27, 2013 11:09 AM (O7OxF)

177 Once the coming Civil war gets underway, the inhuman wholesale destruction of entire classes of people will make The Great Terror of the French Revolution look like the knock-out game.

Posted by: Defarge at November 27, 2013 11:15 AM (H84UO)

178 Old and busted media: we must fact check politicians New improved media: we must help politicians lie to help people

Posted by: Ernst blofeld at November 27, 2013 11:29 AM (hKIk9)

179 *Okay, I'm going to wave my hands and talk like the crazy man standing outside a store.* "Dude, Monicagate was created to distract from the real scandals of the Clinton administration. Anyone remember the fund raising scandals? Elian? The national park created in Utah that just happens to tie up one of the largest deposits of clean burning coal in the world? And, last and most certainly not least, Waco...American citizens burned to death. In order to save the children from being molested and Koresh was a crazy gun nut guilty of multiple weapons violations." Monicagate was the original "squirrel" moment that gave the press something to report other than real scandals. *out of breath from ranting, the crazy man outside the store collapses in heap*

Posted by: Blake at November 27, 2013 11:38 AM (WuGBT)

180 Left Media Is Now Going Back to Clinton Playbook, Declaring Of Course Presidents Lie, You Idiots, and That's a Good Thing ----- Followed by the obligatory: What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: socalcon at November 27, 2013 11:51 AM (vHlQ5)

181 Perhaps CNN could have run this piece about around when Joe Wilson yelled "You Lie" to the President with regard to his representations about the ACA?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 27, 2013 12:32 PM (nnkXw)

182 Quick! Tell me more Verbal Lubricants Pinoccio, while I ride your nose.

Posted by: Moochelle O-bah-muhh at November 27, 2013 02:24 PM (nbGZj)

183 The MSM still believes that the crimes of the KGB would never occurred had Uncle Joe known what was going on. Nothing to see here, move along.

Posted by: Veritas at November 28, 2013 03:36 PM (UOONO)

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