November 19, 2013

Politico Headline: Steely Obama Talks Tough to Insurers, Telling Them "No Politically-Unpopular Bailout"
Politco Article Itself: Obama Says There Will Be A Bailout
— Ace

Egregious. Obama doesn't want it talked up that he's proposing a bailout of insurers -- bailouts are unpopular anyway. And they become even more unpopular when the bailout is required by Obama's own careless bulldozing of the old law and rules.

If there's no bailout, insurers definitely won't offer the old policies-- because they need those people to pay the new, higher rates to subsidize other people. Or else they'll lose money, and, eventually, would go bankrupt, were this to continue. (Of course Obama doesn't plan for it to continue -- he just wants the old policies offered until the 2014 midterms.)

So he is proposing a bailout. But that's unpopular. So what does Politico do? It writes an article with a headline saying Obama vows to give insurers no bailout, and early paragraphs talking up his steely resolve against them.

And then, in paragraph 11, when most people have stopped reading, they tell you, get this, Obama is proposing a bailout after all.

Check it out.

I'm numbering paragraphs according to where they appear in the article.

[Headline:] President Obama to insurers: No bailout

Well, that's tough. Steely. Commanding. You tell those miscreant insurance companies, O!

[Para 1:] President Barack Obama had some bad news for the insurance company CEOs who met him at the White House: His “fix” might cost them.

More toughness: He's just putting it right out there. You're going to do this, Hated Insurance Companies, and it's going to cost you.

[Para 2:] Obama asked the CEOs to reinstate millions of AmericansÂ’ health insurance plans that were canceled because they fell short of coverage requirements under the law, according to two executives who attended the session Friday.


[Para 3:] The president offered the execs some sweeteners, but admitted they wonÂ’t necessarily add up to enough to cover the full brunt of added costs that the changes to the insurance market could create.

Sweeteners? That sounds like a bailout. Is that a bailout?

But the headline just told me "No bailout." So I guess these sweeteners must be non-bailout type inducements.

[Para 4:] The president’s proposed “fix” to the wave of plan cancellations was to allow insurance companies to extend the plans for a year, but those extensions are voluntary, so he needs the industry to buy in.

[Para 5:] ObamaÂ’s frank talk with the CEOs raises the stakes for the short-term solution and is a reminder that as much as the health care law is the presidentÂ’s signature achievement, he still needs industry buy-in for it to succeed in the long run.

Oooh, "frank" talk. That means "tough."

[Para 6: ]
“As the president emphasized, there is not an unlimited amount of money out there for the government to do that [make up for extra costs],” said Jim Roosevelt, CEO of Tufts Health Plan, one of more than a dozen insurance company leaders who attended the 90-minute meeting.

Wait, now we're talking about an "amount of money" out there to make up for insurers' extra costs. Like a "sweetener," that sounds like a bailout.

But Politico's headline assured me there was no bailout. I wonder what this means, then.

Finally, skipping down quite a bit:

[Para 11:] he 2010 health law had several tools aimed at helping insurers through some of the fiscal bumps in the new markets. To address the industry concerns about additional costs if they revive the canceled plans, administration officials said last week they would tweak one of those tools — called “risk corridors” — to give them more help.

Um, Politico sure seems to be cagey on this point, but "risk corridors" is a euphemism for "legally-required bailout due to losses suffered from Obamacare."

And what's "help"? Do they mean federal money help? Because, again, the headline vowed: No bailout.

[Para 11, continued:]
But Obama made clear that the financial support has a limit, according to the two health executives and several other industry sources who were briefed on the meeting.

So it is "financial support," to "help" insurers cover the extra costs deriving from the now-widened "risk corridors."

But Politico, in line with the President's messaging, insists this is "No bailout."


[Para 12:] Republicans had warned of a costly bailout.

So... we're right, right? Or is Politico saying we're wrong, because while we will in fact be bailing insurers out, that bailout will not be "costly" but rather "limited"?

Well, who knows. All I know is that Obama is bailing out the insurance companies, but does not want that widely reported in a headline, and the Kindly Friends at Politico obliged him.

Thanks to @lachlan.


Posted by: Ace at 11:40 AM | Comments (345)
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1 the president is a scoamf and a scoamt

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 19, 2013 11:42 AM (8JJ6O)

2 So, he's planning on bypassing Congress again?

Posted by: RS at November 19, 2013 11:42 AM (YAGV/)

3 You know what this post is missing? A noose. And "boy".

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at November 19, 2013 11:42 AM (09o/X)

4 Leventy-seventh!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at November 19, 2013 11:42 AM (HA2Ey)

5 Hmmm sounds bad. I was insinuating Ace is raaaaacist for calling Obama not tough.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at November 19, 2013 11:43 AM (09o/X)

6 It's not a "bailout" bailout.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 19, 2013 11:43 AM (LA7Cm)

7 As if he hasn't caused enough turmoil regarding peoples' health care and insurance already. He's just pulling out of his tookus again.

Posted by: RS at November 19, 2013 11:43 AM (YAGV/)

8 obama is fuckin dishonest lying cock sucker. Everything else is just commentary.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2013 11:44 AM (t3UFN)

9

FFS.   Politico is getting as bad as fucking MSNBC.

 

[Para 11, continued:] But Obama made clear that the financial support has a limit, according to the two health executives and several other industry sources who were briefed on the meeting.

 

Uh, no it doesn't.   There is specifically and categorically no limit on the amount of "financial support" the law allows CMS to provide to the insurance agencies   through these "risk corridors."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 19, 2013 11:44 AM (4df7R)

10 Yeah, Politico is just offering Barky its risk corridor again, but they've stopped begging for lube.

Posted by: joncelli at November 19, 2013 11:45 AM (RD7QR)

11

"So, he's planning on bypassing Congress again?.."

 

 

We don't need no stinking Congress! 

Posted by: Obama Admin at November 19, 2013 11:45 AM (LA7Cm)

12 Seeing reports that "private", "secure" individual profiles entered in HealthCare.gov are showing up in search engines.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 19, 2013 11:45 AM (ZPrif)

13 RISK CORRIDOR!! TWEAKS!! Plain English version: Obama knew millions would be kicked off their health care plans and didn't care, lied about it at least 35 times, was caught, and now wants to use even more taxpayer money to save his ass. Doesn't Rubio have a bill to stop this?

Posted by: LASue at November 19, 2013 11:45 AM (gjIQF)

14 Huh.  Preezy Steely.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 11:45 AM (lVPtV)

15 You know, whatever he says the opposite will be the truth.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 11:46 AM (HVff2)

16 I saw Steely Obama open for Aja in 1979.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2013 11:46 AM (zoehZ)

17 Oh boy, this is gonna be GREAT!

Posted by: Flounder at November 19, 2013 11:46 AM (8ZskC)

18 Shep Smith's eyes look like marbles. Is he an android?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 19, 2013 11:47 AM (ZPrif)

19 "Risk corridors" - is that like the link that allows you to attack Alaska from Kamchatka?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at November 19, 2013 11:47 AM (HA2Ey)

20 @12 Flatbush Joe So, with our pre-existing condition, we can add financial ruin due to identity theft to our circumstances! Thanks, Obama Care!

Posted by: RS at November 19, 2013 11:47 AM (YAGV/)

21 It's only money.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2013 11:47 AM (XUKZU)

22 Can we impeach this lying douche and be done with it?  At least with a President Biden, we'd spend the next three miserable years laughing our asses off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 11:47 AM (lVPtV)

23 I had some BBQ chicken last night and it was a bit tough.  That must be what Politco was referring to.  

Posted by: dirks strewn at November 19, 2013 11:47 AM (kfcYC)

24 Pay no attention to the bailout behind the curtain.

Posted by: The Great and Powerful Zero at November 19, 2013 11:48 AM (8GKDa)

25 I saw The Doors open for Risk Corridors in KC back in '68.

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 19, 2013 11:48 AM (LSJmV)

26 Presnit Unmitigated Failure.

Are these bailouts deficit neutral too?

Posted by: shillelagh at November 19, 2013 11:48 AM (hRzu2)

27 Bailout is such an ugly word.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2013 11:48 AM (8ZskC)

28 Reggie and I explore each others' risk corridors all the time.

Posted by: BHO at November 19, 2013 11:48 AM (XvrTA)

29 It's all Kabuki theater. Did you know PPACA also set minimum medical loss ratios for insurers or, said another way, maximum medical profit margins? The exchanges, risk corridors, etc. are just there to give the impression that something other than a government takeover of the health insurance market happened when, in fact, that's exactly what happened.

Posted by: Andy at November 19, 2013 11:48 AM (wLq63)

30 What pisses me off about bailing out the insurers is their lobbyists are the ones who pushed having Obama and Pelousy write the law the way it is, if they didn't actually write it themselves.


I am sure how this got into the law, bailing them out. Hell, Obama has violated every other law, how about violating this one and not bail them out.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 11:49 AM (FTQyq)

31 Oh my.  Preezy Choom is speaking about how great Obamacarefail is at a meeting at the Wall Street Journal.

On Fox right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 11:49 AM (lVPtV)

32

Any guesses where this bailout money comes from?

 

 

 

Posted by: Fred Q. at November 19, 2013 11:49 AM (q+zA9)

33 So... we're right, right? Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 11:49 AM (t+DWU)

34

"Reggie and I explore each others' risk corridors all the time..."

 

 

You got that right! 

 

 

XOXOXO

Posted by: Reggie the Love Machine at November 19, 2013 11:49 AM (LA7Cm)

35 and the Kindly Friends at Politico obliged him Arrrrrgggh. *twitches on ground* Must. Not. Make. Obvious. Reference. *twitches on ground*

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 19, 2013 11:49 AM (VtjlW)

36 No bailout. Period. End of story. That's probably what they mean.

Posted by: m at November 19, 2013 11:50 AM (fzFaG)

37 Hey, um you'd better rethink borrowing bailout money from us. We're a little strapped at the moment.

Posted by: The Chinese at November 19, 2013 11:50 AM (YAGV/)

38 Any guesses where this bailout money comes from? China!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 11:50 AM (t+DWU)

39 So the President is a liar.  Check.

Posted by: Jean at November 19, 2013 11:50 AM (CMlD4)

40 We used to dream of living in a risk corridor! It would have been a palace to us!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at November 19, 2013 11:50 AM (HA2Ey)

41 Dewey Defeats Truman!!!!!!!

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2013 11:50 AM (m2CN7)

42 *twitches on ground*

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at November 19, 2013 03:49 PM (VtjlW)



*slides valium-laced brownie over*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 11:50 AM (lVPtV)

43 You know that Steely Dan was named after a dildo? Well, I guess "Steely" Barack fits then....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at November 19, 2013 11:50 AM (uukwP)

44 for a former college professor, this guy seems to be making it up as he goes.

Posted by: Fred Q. at November 19, 2013 11:50 AM (q+zA9)

45 "Obama will allow insurers to keep offering the cancelled plans to people who had them even if the coverage doesn't meet Obamacare standards." So this is what a Banana Republic feels like. We could save a bundle of money by dissolving the United States Congress now. Apparently we no longer need them.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 19, 2013 11:51 AM (6ahup)

46 Mass and Minn won't allow insurers to offer the old plans. The Mass connector site, which cost 63m and is not working, has 'signed up' less than 1000 peoplle in 2 months, it just changed from Rcare to Ocare recently. They need 250k by March. And it is *crickets* in the local media. But Deval is spending 9m to renovate his office...in his last year in office.

Posted by: Goldilocks at November 19, 2013 11:51 AM (xuKce)

47 I still have my shirt from the No Bailout concert in 1993.

Posted by: @JohnTant at November 19, 2013 11:51 AM (eytER)

48 "Risk corridors" - is that like the link that allows you to attack Alaska from Kamchatka? Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 19, 2013 03:47 PM (HA2Ey) /golf clap.. Well played .... well played indeed...

Posted by: President Romeo13.... at November 19, 2013 11:51 AM (lZBBB)

49 125 They'd eat each other.

Posted by: steevy at November 19, 2013 11:51 AM (zqvg6)

50 If it were Bush43 or Reagan, it would be a bailout, but Obama doesn't do bailouts, so what gives?

Posted by: Michael at November 19, 2013 11:51 AM (smKbx)

51 But Andy, we all get affordable (for Oprah), high quality (compared to what's offered in the Congo) health insurance. What's not to love?

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 19, 2013 11:52 AM (LSJmV)

52 When Congressional Democrats passed this abortion of a law on Christmas eve in the infamous lame duck session they gave away the store to Obama.  He can do pretty much anything he wants in this law.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 11:52 AM (FTQyq)

53 Politico was gettin' all emotional & stuff.

Then the Preznit' told them to SHUT THE FUCK UP & CALM DOWN, BITCH.

And now it's all better!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2013 11:52 AM (wtvvX)

54 Surely, in the midst of a national crisis of confidence in Dear Leader due to his being exposed as a lying liar who lies, he wouldn't...what's the word...LIE again? 

Tell me it isn't so.

Posted by: Mayday at November 19, 2013 11:52 AM (eHc+1)

55 Democratic Socialist in tone, Corporatist in action.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 19, 2013 11:52 AM (rSTkb)

56 This is why the Upton bill really needed to go beyond 2014. There is a way out for insurers if they can bypass the exchanges altogether; and if people are allowed to buy good insurance off of the exchanges instead of being forced to buy crappy insurance on the exchanges (for more money), insurers will find it more economically feasible to target off-exchange purchasers instead of the exchanges.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 19, 2013 11:52 AM (QF8uk)

57 "Fiscal bumps." Heh.

Posted by: LASue at November 19, 2013 11:52 AM (gjIQF)

58

*gives AtC a pillow*  I'd help you up,    but   I have a feeling the ragetwitching is going to be endemic the next few days... months... years....

 

Oh my. Preezy Choom is speaking about how great Obamacarefail is at a meeting at the Wall Street Journal.

On Fox right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 03:49 PM (lVPtV)

 

 

F.F.S!   Can he shut his trap for    FIVE MINUTES!?

 

Someone should tell him that every   time   he opens his mouth, a    commie cocksucker becomes a Republican.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 19, 2013 11:52 AM (4df7R)

59 WHY IS FOXNEWS LETTING HIM BLOVIATE? He is obviously campaigning.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 19, 2013 11:53 AM (8X0By)

60

Just a reminder, not republicans voted for this to happen.

 

 

 

Posted by: Fred Q. at November 19, 2013 11:53 AM (q+zA9)

61 49 125 They'd eat each other. Posted by: steevy Run for your lives!!!!!!11!!! The time machine is loose again!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 11:53 AM (t+DWU)

62 38 Any guesses where this bailout money comes from? China! Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 03:50 PM (t+DWU) They are no longer buying US Debt... about the only folks buying US Debt, is the Federal Reserve Bank.... They buy Debt with self created money....

Posted by: President Romeo13.... at November 19, 2013 11:53 AM (lZBBB)

63 55 Democratic Socialist in tone, Corporatist in action. Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2013 03:52 PM (rSTkb) ~ So, National Socialist.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 19, 2013 11:53 AM (6ahup)

64 Politico is still the low budget BuzzFeed, yes?

Posted by: Kodos at November 19, 2013 11:53 AM (QupBk)

65 @57 Didn't the Fiscal Bumps play the first day at Woodstock?

Posted by: The Chinese at November 19, 2013 11:53 AM (YAGV/)

66 "Steely Obama":  that right there made me think the whole post was satire.  Why not?  The entire administration already is.

Posted by: Biblio at November 19, 2013 11:54 AM (7o8VY)

67 Don't think of it as a "bailout." Think of it more as "government money earmarked to support insurance companies from an adverse financial impact."

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 19, 2013 11:54 AM (+lsX1)

68 In positive news: Check out the company Theranos and their new tech. Signed a deal with Walgreens to go nationwide. Most standard blood tests from an automated system that takes a pin-prick of blood - like diabetes testing, but for hundreds of standard blood tests. Here's a list- http://www.theranos.com/test-menu?ref=our_solution Prices look cheap. You'd walk into the drugstore, get a finger prick, get your results a few hours later. No needles, no doc visits. Hope it works. This would be awesomely convenient.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 19, 2013 11:54 AM (ZPrif)

69 He is obviously campaigning.


He has a "gift" (according to him).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 11:54 AM (lVPtV)

70 Just announced Sir Bob Geldof's concert for the Banana Republic "We are the bail out"

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 11:54 AM (HVff2)

71 "   Oooh, "frank" talk. That means "tough."  "


or maybe it means "Barney" -- can't always tell with this fguy.

Posted by: Mallfly at November 19, 2013 11:54 AM (bJm7W)

72

"he wouldn't...what's the word...LIE again.."

 

We don't consider it a lie.  We like to think of it more as subeffective communication. 

Posted by: MSM at November 19, 2013 11:54 AM (LA7Cm)

73 Shep Smith's eyes look like marbles. Is he an android? Doesn't that usually indicate a person is on something illegal?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 19, 2013 11:54 AM (sByIH)

74 @133:   That is a g-ddamn lie!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 19, 2013 11:54 AM (4df7R)

75 The president is near ...

Posted by: Tobias Johnson at November 19, 2013 11:55 AM (QupBk)

76 If you like your bailout, you can keep your bailout.

PERIOD.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2013 11:55 AM (wtvvX)

77 Cock suckers doing what they do best...

Posted by: dananjcon at November 19, 2013 11:55 AM (wmU4G)

78 "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Because everyone else is going to pay for the increase in your plan's cost due to Obamacare."

Oh and free birth control 11!!

Posted by: Marcus at November 19, 2013 11:55 AM (LrbRa)

79 Amateur hour.  Unbelievable.  The country is totally boned.

Posted by: MTF at November 19, 2013 11:55 AM (B5y+v)

80 38 Any guesses where this bailout money comes from?


China!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 03:50 PM (t+DWU)


Obviously did not read the comments in the last thread.  China quit buying our debt years ago when Obama started printing money.



The Fed is buying the debt now.  IOW were are simply printing money to the tune of $80B/month.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 11:55 AM (FTQyq)

81 Tell me it isn't so. Posted by: Mayday at November 19, 2013 03:52 PM (eHc+1) Folks really do not understand who Obama is... He has LIED his entire life... and was so successful at it that he is President of the US... Why in the hell do you think he would stop telling lies NOW????

Posted by: Romeo13, calling a Spade a Spade, and NOT denouncing himself. at November 19, 2013 11:55 AM (lZBBB)

82 Tomorrow Obama's having all the State Insurance Commissioners to the WH for a meeting to say, "Come on, guys, laws are justa buncha stuff written on pieces of paper, you have my guar-an=tee that nothing will go wrong if you let the folks buy those ol' crap policies from bad apple insurers".

Posted by: jeannebodine at November 19, 2013 11:55 AM (2LJqa)

83 The Hindenburg had the common decency to burn in just a couple of minutes.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 19, 2013 11:56 AM (659DL)

84 You'd walk into the drugstore, get a finger prick, get your results a few hours later. I'm gonna set up a bail bond booth next to it for dyslexics.....

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 11:56 AM (t+DWU)

85 I've had enough of the idiot Toronto mayor.  Shep is absolutely fascinated.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 11:56 AM (lVPtV)

86 @162:   Pistols, sir, at dawn.   *throws down gauntlet and flounces away*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/u][/s][/b] at November 19, 2013 11:56 AM (4df7R)

87 The obamacare stimulus.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 11:56 AM (IXrOn)

88 Time to stock up on your "Burning Times" supplies. Go long on pork 'n beans, whiskey, smokes and ammo.

Posted by: RS at November 19, 2013 11:57 AM (YAGV/)

89 They are no longer buying US Debt... about the only folks buying US Debt, is the Federal Reserve Bank....

They buy Debt with self created money....

Posted by: President Romeo13

The US is the largest purchaser, yes, but China is still buying. Not much as before and they do occasionally sell some, but still up.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 19, 2013 11:57 AM (rSTkb)

90 I've had enough of the idiot Toronto mayor. Shep is absolutely fascinated. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 03:56 PM (lVPtV) Maybe sheps thing is crackhead Bears.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at November 19, 2013 11:57 AM (XIxXP)

91 So. Here's a weird question. If the losses are because Obama fucked with the law (rather than as the result of crappy number crunching as the law states) Do the risk corridors apply? You'd suspect the answer would be "no" but subsidies aren't supposed to work on the federal exchange and we've seen how that works out

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 19, 2013 11:57 AM (GaqMa)

92 But isn't he handsome? (*sigh*)

Posted by: MSM at November 19, 2013 11:57 AM (DrC22)

93 So... we're right, right? Or is Politico saying we're wrong, because while we will in fact be bailing insurers out, that bailout will not be "costly" but rather "limited"? So the bailout will be time-limited and scope limited. And probably kinetic.

Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2013 11:58 AM (hO9ad)

94

"The obamacare stimulus..."

 

If/when it fails, Krugtron will be screaming that it should have been twice as big as it was.  

Posted by: MSM at November 19, 2013 11:58 AM (LA7Cm)

95 87 @162: Pistols, sir, at dawn. *throws down gauntlet and flounces away* Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 19, 2013 03:56 PM (4df7R) Ruh Roh.... Time Machines AND Duels???

Posted by: Romeo13, calling a Spade a Spade, and NOT denouncing himself. at November 19, 2013 11:58 AM (lZBBB)

96 The Steely Obama from Indonesia? Izzat wut they're slobbering on?

Posted by: K,tnx,bye at November 19, 2013 11:58 AM (RPDkq)

97 87 @162: Pistols, sir, at dawn. *throws down gauntlet and flounces away*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at November 19, 2013 03:56 PM (4df7R)


Uh, you been time-travelin' again, MWR???

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2013 11:58 AM (wtvvX)

98

The Collapsening.  That's what this is.

 

 

It's dead, they just can't admit it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Reprehension, Condemnation, and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 19, 2013 11:58 AM (hLRSq)

99 I'm feeling angry and emotional.

And don't tell me to calm down and make a sammich.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 11:58 AM (lVPtV)

100 Poor Ace.

We all knew they meant "BIG BAILOUT" when they said "No bailout".  Ya gotta learn to read between the lies.. oops... that should be: read between the lines.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 19, 2013 11:58 AM (f9c2L)

101 I am of the opinion that President Pee-pee-head learned his math skills through the Common Core program.

Posted by: tcn at November 19, 2013 11:59 AM (3kDQa)

102 The Steely Obama from Indonesia? Izzat wut they're slobbering on? You know, you can sing that to “The Little Old Lady from Pasadena”.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at November 19, 2013 11:59 AM (QF8uk)

103 Hey Barack, don't be so emotional!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2013 11:59 AM (JRmiD)

104

Here ya go, walk across this lawn covered with rakes and pay no mind to the pain in your face.

Posted by: Hussein the Magnificent at November 19, 2013 11:59 AM (wAQA5)

105 Totes serious question here...does anyone have the job of keeping an eye on POTUS to make sure he isn't cracking up?  And I don't mean the Jarret Ferret, Mooch or Reggie, I mean an official doctor type, or maybe someone in the Secret Service?

Posted by: Mayday at November 19, 2013 11:59 AM (eHc+1)

106 And don't tell me to calm down and make a sammich.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
...........
Would you make me an angry sammich?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 19, 2013 11:59 AM (f9c2L)

107 Don't uh call my bluff Aetna....do NOT er do it...

//Barack "Steely Resolve" Ogabe

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 11:59 AM (9jfyN)

108 for a former college professor, this guy seems to be making it up as he goes. HA! As if they don't normally. I had one Prof teaching an Intro to Programming course in Java. He was about two weeks ahead of us in the book. It showed. The guy was a creaky old C programmer. OOP was completely foreign to him.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 19, 2013 12:00 PM (sByIH)

109 Politico, Pravda, same difference.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 12:00 PM (IXrOn)

110 Why the fuck is this asshole speaking at the WSJ CEO Conference??? See the guy onstage with the dumbo ears - do the exact fucking opposite of what he suggests!

Posted by: RWC at November 19, 2013 12:00 PM (fWAjv)

111 58: Man, I want to be there when that boomerangs... SCOAMF: "So, uh, let me be clear, if you like your..." "...whoa...what the hell was I saying? Seriously, none of you idiots could have stopped me? Dear God, what have I done?" /runs off to fire and arrest Cabinet, clamp down Fed, cancel Obamacare, and enter a monastery

Posted by: Brother Cavil, upholstering his throne of skulls at November 19, 2013 12:00 PM (naUcP)

112 "Doesn't Rubio have a bill to stop this?"

Yes. See his op-ed in today's WSJ.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 19, 2013 12:00 PM (VrNoa)

113 I'm feeling angry and emotional. And don't tell me to calm down and make a sammich. Stepping at least two states away.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 12:00 PM (t+DWU)

114 Posted by: Jane D'oh
...........
Would you make me an angry sammich?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 19, 2013 03:59 PM (f9c2L)



*draws back Fist of Death*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 12:00 PM (lVPtV)

115 So, this is the "fixing healthcare" stuff that caused TFG to skip Gettysburg???

FUCKWAD.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2013 12:00 PM (wtvvX)

116 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (PYAXX)

117 *twitch* *twitch* *twitch*

Posted by: Lauren's eye at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (hFL/3)

118 Would you make me an angry sammich?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 19, 2013 03:59 PM (f9c2L)


Goes great with a hate shake.

Posted by: tcn at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (3kDQa)

119 Posted by: Andy at November 19, 2013 03:48 PM (wLq63) Yes, yes I did. In fact NDH and I were discussing whether those "rebates" or the fines for overcharging that are supposed to fund the risk corridors (HA!) take precedent. Because we can't figure it out.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (GaqMa)

120 "Steely Obama"? Wasn't that the name of a dildo in the novel "The Naked Lunch" by William Burroughs? Anyway, I'm pretty sure "Steely Obama' is some kind of dildo...

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (0cMkb)

121  Time to stock up on your "Burning Times" supplies. Go long on pork 'n beans, whiskey, smokes and ammo.

Posted by: RS at November 19, 2013 03:57 PM (YAGV/)

 

Beanie Weenie and bullets.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (wAQA5)

122 So, this is the "fixing healthcare" stuff that caused TFG to skip Gettysburg??? FUCKWAD. Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2013 04:00 PM (wtvvX) Why would obama care about going to some battlefield/gave site where a bunch of crackers died?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (t3UFN)

123 It's not Barry who drew a red line at bailouts. It was the world's red line.

Posted by: Tobias Johnson at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (QupBk)

124 90  The US is the largest purchaser, yes, but China is still buying. Not much as before and they do occasionally sell some, but still up.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2013 03:57 PM (rSTkb)



No, China is selling our debt and has been doing so for a long time.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (FTQyq)

125 The comments are teh funny.

"BOOOOOOOSH!!!!!"


lol.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (pj6Nr)

126
So..... pithy answer is....... he's lying, again.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 19, 2013 12:01 PM (nELVU)

127 Ha! Take that, work wifi!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 12:02 PM (PYAXX)

128 Politico Headline: Bi-Curious Obama Talks Tough Titties to Insurers, Telling Them "No Politically-Unpopular Handys

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 19, 2013 12:02 PM (kkbgQ)

129 Obama: My understanding is that no one in this town is doing particularly well at the moment

Posted by: RWC at November 19, 2013 12:02 PM (fWAjv)

130 enter a monastery

Posted by: Brother Cavil, upholstering his throne of skulls at November 19, 2013 04:00 PM (naUcP)


He ain't gettin' in there, believe me, brother.

Posted by: tcn at November 19, 2013 12:02 PM (3kDQa)

131 Your everlasting summer
You can see it fading fast
So you grab a piece of something
That you think is gonna last
You wouldn't know a diamond
If you held it in your hand
The things you think are precious
I can't understand

CHORUS:
Are you reelin' in the years
Stowin' away the time
Are you gatherin' up the tears
Have you had enough of mine

You been tellin' me you're a genius
Since you were seventeen
In all the time I've known you
I still don't know what you mean
The weekend at the college
Didn't turn out like you planned
The things that pass for knowledge
I can't understand

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2013 12:02 PM (XUKZU)

132 It's the puppy-eating Preezy from Indonesia Go Barry, go Barry, go Barry go!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 12:02 PM (7ObY1)

133 Ha! Take that, work wifi! Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Yay! AllenG!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 12:03 PM (t+DWU)

134 He didn't even know anything about Design Patterns. He just told us to do "Top Down" programming. If you need a function, call it in main. Then make that function somewhere. Then make the next function.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 19, 2013 12:03 PM (sByIH)

135 The best part of this is that a lot of the big, hated health insurers are non-profits - Blue Cross, Kaiser, etc. That doesn't mean their CEOs, etc. don't earn huge salaries - that's run of the mill for big non-profits anyway. But this attempt to demonize them and nationalize them is beyond absurd.

Posted by: jeannebodine at November 19, 2013 12:03 PM (2LJqa)

136 86 I've had enough of the idiot Toronto mayor. Shep is absolutely fascinated. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 03:56 PM (lVPtV)

Posted by: Cali at November 19, 2013 12:03 PM (DrC22)

137 Beanie Weenie and bullets. Posted by: wth at November 19, 2013 04:01 PM (wAQA5) ~ Heritage beanie weenie. Twice the pig bung at 10 times the price.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 19, 2013 12:03 PM (6ahup)

138

Isn't a Steely Obama a rusty barbed wire wrapped dildo?

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at November 19, 2013 12:03 PM (znT2j)

139 He ain't gettin' in there, believe me, brother. Posted by: tcn Depends whose he tries to enter...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, upholstering his throne of skulls at November 19, 2013 12:04 PM (naUcP)

140
Meanwhile:

Hotair: Obama, Rubio agree: No bailout for insurers implementing ObamaCare “fix”
by Ed Morrissey

Update: Some are pointing at this paragraph to say that Obama is in fact proposing a bailout. IÂ’m sure that the insurers donÂ’t see that as a bailout. ItÂ’s more of a subsidy....



"It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 19, 2013 12:04 PM (kdS6q)

141 Speaking of Burroughs -- I've noticed that all the kids of these beat poets either OD'd or committed suicide. Nice, Mom and Dad!

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 19, 2013 12:04 PM (kkbgQ)

142 123 Soona at November 19, 2013 03:51 PM (66ULQ)

How ya doin'?

//Michelle "Worf" Troi

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 12:05 PM (9jfyN)

143 1. Public bailouts are usually a last resort. 2. The "risk corridor" bailout IS PART OF THE INITIAL LEGISLATION. 3. Yes, this is intentional for those keeping score at home.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 19, 2013 12:05 PM (659DL)

144 Heard a clip of President Dipshit once again blaming his failures on Republicans not being 'vested in success.' Do you think he would admit that the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars went less well because Democrats weren't 'vested in success?'

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2013 12:05 PM (MMC8r)

145 Isn't the bailout money written into the law?
If that's the case why is Obama acting as if it's within his discretion. Especially when the bailout only applies to losses from plans that comply w/HHS standards (i.e. not the cancelled, then resurrected one by Obama decree).

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2013 12:05 PM (JRmiD)

146 Painted in a corner and all he wants to do, is dance down at the zombie zoo

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 19, 2013 12:05 PM (nTgAI)

147 If the payment systems aren't working, isn't a bailout moot?

Posted by: Jean at November 19, 2013 12:05 PM (CMlD4)

148 "Update: Some are pointing at this paragraph to say that Obama is in fact proposing a bailout. IÂ’m sure that the insurers donÂ’t see that as a bailout. ItÂ’s more of a subsidy...." *TWITCH* *TWITCH*

Posted by: Lauren's eye at November 19, 2013 12:05 PM (hFL/3)

149 ......"When the truth is found, to be lies, and all the love, within you dies"..........

Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2013 12:05 PM (2NeaA)

150 This is madness, absolute madness! And no, this is not sparta!

Posted by: Kreplach at November 19, 2013 12:05 PM (S8y+1)

151 One more time: How shitty does your policy have to be to assume that there will be a bailout right out of the box?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 19, 2013 12:06 PM (659DL)

152 Isn't the bailout money written into the law?
If that's the case why is Obama acting as if it's within his discretion. Especially when the bailout only applies to losses from plans that comply w/HHS standards (i.e. not the cancelled, then resurrected one by Obama decree).

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2013 04:05 PM (JRmiD)

 

I think you answered your own question. He doesn't follow laws

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 19, 2013 12:06 PM (nTgAI)

153 Obama's penchant for saying one thing to one audience and the polar opposite to a different audience , or, as it's more commonly known, lying, is reminiscent of Yassir Arafat. Congratulations, Mr. President!

Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at November 19, 2013 12:06 PM (UlI/7)

154 Oh, my.  I feel another rage headache coming on.

*twitches*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 12:06 PM (lVPtV)

155 My Schadenboner's nickname is "Steely Obama". Quite the coincidence!

Posted by: Roy at November 19, 2013 12:06 PM (VndSC)

156 I'm sure this was already hashed out today, but whaa? Obama reportedly to pen letter to Afghan people admitting 'mistakes,' as part of security deal U.S. and Afghan officials reportedly have reached a tentative agreement on a critical security pact — which would include President Obama writing a letter to the Afghan people acknowledging mistakes during the “war on terror.” So glad I did a salon visit - a real salon visit, today. Head massage, hair cut. Ahhhh... Sure helps cut through these depressing headlines all day long.* *as do the alpacas and puppies sniffing yellow roses...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 12:06 PM (IXrOn)

157 Update: Some are pointing at this paragraph to say that Obama is in fact proposing a bailout. IÂ’m sure that the insurers donÂ’t see that as a bailout. ItÂ’s more of a subsidy.... LOLWUT? "No, no, it's not a bailout! It's a subsidy. Those are totally different." Way to go, Poppin' Fresh.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 12:06 PM (PYAXX)

158
Piss off MWR.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 19, 2013 12:07 PM (nELVU)

159 These are not the bailouts you are looking for

Posted by: Obama wan Kenobi at November 19, 2013 12:07 PM (Xlbr8)

160 I got my new health card today and there was a sticker on it that said if I registered online I would get 5000 rewards points. I was unaware my new health coverage was akin to a Starbucks card. Wonder what I get with my rewards points? A free colonoscopy?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 19, 2013 12:07 PM (RZ8pf)

161 @157: Well, they both won the Nobel Peace Prize, so....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2013 12:07 PM (wtvvX)

162
Let's see....the banks got a bailout....wall street got a bailout...GM et al less ford got a bailout, solar companies go a pre-bailout....

Yes the insurance companies will get a bail out.  But you know its "limited".

Limited to an amount which equals something something.  Not forever mind you, just until sometime sometime.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2013 12:07 PM (iGPSR)

163 So.... ...will keeping your 'crummy plan' mean the IRS gives you a penalty on top of it (like it says in the, you know, actual written law and not in the crayon-scribblings of the BoyKing)?

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2013 12:07 PM (MMC8r)

164 >>Painted in a corner and all he wants to do, is dance down at the zombie zoo.

Heh. Great Tom petty song.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2013 12:07 PM (JRmiD)

165 161 AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 04:06 PM (PYAXX)

Poppin' Fresh seldom misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 12:07 PM (9jfyN)

166
There's the progress
We have found a way to talk around the problem
Building web sites
Foresight isn't anything at all

Buy the sky and sell the sky
And lift your arms up to the sky
And ask the sky, and ask the sky
Fall on me (what is it up in the air for)
Fall on me (if it's there for long)
Fall on me (it's over, it's over me)

Posted by: Eponymous at November 19, 2013 12:08 PM (e8kgV)

167 Obama reportedly to pen letter to Afghan people admitting 'mistakes,' as part of security deal

U.S. and Afghan officials reportedly have reached a tentative agreement on a critical security pact — which would include President Obama writing a letter to the Afghan people acknowledging mistakes during the “war on terror.”




I dare not type what I'm feeling right now.  Fucking POS.  

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 12:08 PM (lVPtV)

168 Every U.S. President faces criticism and resistance, but I don’t remember anyone asking to see Bill Clinton’s birth certificate. It seems part of the political discourse in the U.S. to insist Obama is a Muslim (it’s telling in itself that this is a curse word among conservatives), un-American in background and character, or even to wave the Confederate flag in front of the White House, which is way behind code for Jim Crow sentiment. Obama has had his failings–inexperienced when first elected, promises unkept, dithering on crucial issues, failed program delivery. But are some of his failures the result of intransigence by hardline opponents, their absolute denial of his presidency despite two elections? Do his shortcomings deserve the deep enmity, the instinctive resistance to everything he stands for or proposes? Actor/director Robert Redford says some members of Congress are trying to “paralyze the system. There’s probably some racism involved, which is really awful.” Meanwhile, critics like Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert accuse Obama himself of “stirring up racial tension and violence.” I’m not suggesting everyone who opposes Obama is racist, but are some of his political foes in Congress in that camp? And do others provide comfort and support to the millions of Americans who are?

Posted by: Qestionmann at November 19, 2013 12:08 PM (TS9aB)

169 heh.... perfect

Posted by: fixerupper at November 19, 2013 12:08 PM (nELVU)

170 Wonder what I get with my rewards points? A free colonoscopy?

Administered by Dr. Reggie Love, MD!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2013 12:08 PM (wtvvX)

171 Ace, you are being pretty tough on the Prezzy here. Anything after Par. 3 doesn't count anyway, right?

Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 19, 2013 12:08 PM (1Y+hH)

172 The Holocaust was the Americans fault because they weren't invested in success and did everything they could to try to stop me

Posted by: Funny Mustache at November 19, 2013 12:09 PM (XUKZU)

173 I'm so sick of the double talk. "Revenue raisers," "transitioning to different plans," "what we really meant was...."

Posted by: Mainah at November 19, 2013 12:09 PM (659DL)

174 by the way Allen G I am happy to see you...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 12:09 PM (9jfyN)

175 Posted by: Qestionmann at November 19, 2013 04:08 PM (TS9aB) ^^^^DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2013 12:09 PM (23Kgq)

176 'It's a floor wax and a food topping,'

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at November 19, 2013 12:09 PM (Jsiw/)

177 Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2013 04:05 PM (JRmiD) My understanding was that the 'risk corridors' were ONLY for those policies actually sold through the exchange itself... not for any other policy sold by that company... Thus... any company not selling through the exchange would get no bailout, or 'subsidy'... Sounds like he is going to 'broaden' that definition to include ALL insurance sold... Which means the WHOLE insurance industry would be subsidized by the US Taxpayer....

Posted by: Romeo13, calling a Spade a Spade, and NOT denouncing himself. at November 19, 2013 12:09 PM (lZBBB)

178 That article reads like the running dog dialog of a roomful of marxist choomers debating about what toppings they're going to put on their fucking pizza.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2013 12:09 PM (UzPAd)

179 I'm sure the OWS crowd will hate Obama for bailing out the 1%ers.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 19, 2013 12:10 PM (9Bdcz)

180 How long before someone goes all von Stauffenberg on this administration?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 19, 2013 12:10 PM (PZ6/M)

181

>>>But are some of his failures the result of
intransigence by hardline opponents, their absolute denial of his
presidency despite two elections? Do his shortcomings deserve the deep
enmity, the instinctive resistance to everything he stands for or
proposes? <<<<

 

 

You blathering on about Obama or Bush here?

Posted by: Roy at November 19, 2013 12:10 PM (VndSC)

182 Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 12:10 PM (7ObY1)

183 Oh, geez. We have another forward-talking flame-war?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 12:10 PM (PYAXX)

184

There will only be popular bailouts!  Do you hear me?  I said make these bailouts popular!

 

*leaves office to go shoot some hoops*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Reprehension, Condemnation, and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (hLRSq)

185 172 Qestionmann at November 19, 2013 04:08 PM (TS9aB)

You know for being such a LincolnPhile Steely Dan Obama sure can't read period papers.

Get back to me when he is accused of being the afterbirth of an ape and a black.

Bush was a Chimp, Hitler, the Weather Prince who ate N'walins...in short fuck that shit.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (9jfyN)

186 China sold 97% of its short term US T-Bills in 2011 (probably have got rid of the other 3% by now)


http://tinyurl.com/82875s4


China sold long term T-Bills earlier in 2009 when Obamanomics started


http://tinyurl.com/kvzd3rk


This article in Forbes says China quit buying US debt in 2011. (ignore the headline it is misleading)


http://tinyurl.com/mgenpkw

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (FTQyq)

187 You been tellin' me you're a genius

Since you were seventeen

In all the time I've known you

I still don't know what you mean

The weekend at the college

Didn't turn out like you planned

The things that pass for knowledge

I can't understand


Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2013 04:02 PM (XUKZU)

**


Steely Obama...How apropos as my Greek uncle Sal used to say.



Posted by: dananjcon at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (wmU4G)

188 You know this is why he slipped in some obscene number of obamacare enrollees. Some will believe it. If he had said a trillion, some would believe it, because = cult. Politico does the same. Say anything. Anything, and there will be some clod who nods in approval and then vehemently blames the republicans or the tea party. They are in all out save face, cya, stop the hemmoraging mode. Lame Turkey presidency henceforth.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (IXrOn)

189 We're not giving you a bailout! Ok. Good. Since we're clear on that, here's your bailout. Ok.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (oFCZn)

190 Speaking of Burroughs -- I've noticed that all the kids of these beat poets either OD'd or committed suicide. Nice, Mom and Dad! Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 19, 2013 04:04 PM (kkbgQ) Well, since said parents spent most of their time in New York shooting heroin and cornholing each other and spent the rest of their time in Tangiers shooting heroin and cornholing Arab boys when they weren't corn holing each other, that whole parenting thing just might have taken an unfortunate turn.

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (0cMkb)

191 Anybody else getting a mental picture of a herd of goats in heat locked inside the Oval Office?

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (wAQA5)

192 So the Census Bureau is denying any "systematic" manipulation? Well, okay then.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (ZPrif)

193 Whoa. I haven't seen the Qspambot in a coon's age.

Posted by: Tobias Johnson at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (QupBk)

194 ......"When the truth is found, to be lies, and all the love, within you dies"..........

My love will never die.

Posted by: San Fran Nan at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (XUKZU)

195 ^^^^DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2013 04:09 PM (23Kgq)


----


If all he does is cut and paste..... is he still really a troll???

Posted by: fixerupper at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (nELVU)

196 Oooh, we have a new troll. Yes, genius, we're all racists. Now, can you please get me my fries?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at November 19, 2013 12:11 PM (659DL)

197 dammit

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (QupBk)

198 It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

Posted by: Walk Like An Egyptian at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (e8kgV)

199 179 FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2013 04:09 PM (23Kgq)

It was just a love tap of steely knowledge...

promise

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (9jfyN)

200 Bush was a Chimp, Hitler, the Weather Prince who ate N'walins...in short fuck that shit. The Left still masturbate to Troofer porn.

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (MMC8r)

201 P.S. When you do a cut and paste, you really ought to clean it up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (23Kgq)

202 Which means the WHOLE insurance industry would be subsidized by the US Taxpayer.... Downgrade to junk bond status to commence in 5, 4, 3, .....

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (t+DWU)

203 No, China is selling our debt and has been doing so for a long time.
Posted by: Vic

Didn't bother clicking my link, I see.

Sept 2012 holdings
1153 billion
Sept 2013
1293 billion

Also, bloomberg today:
"China Leads as Foreign Treasuries Buying Climbs Most in 7 Months"
http://bloom.bg/17ifKmv

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (rSTkb)

204 Bonus points for the ace copy paste job.

Posted by: Lauren's eye at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (hFL/3)

205 >>Posted by: Romeo13, calling a Spade a Spade, and NOT denouncing himself

Thanks for the clarification.
Basically, he's just making stuff up and changing the law when it suits him.
Banana Republic.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (JRmiD)

206 Posted by: fixerupper at November 19, 2013 04:11 PM (nELVU) Yep.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (23Kgq)

207 Dumber than a box of rocks, able to cut and paste in a single bound it's...Qestionman!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 12:12 PM (7ObY1)

208 184 We don't talk about stuff like that.

Posted by: San Fran Nan at November 19, 2013 12:13 PM (XUKZU)

209 Anybody else getting a mental picture of a herd of goats in heat locked inside the Oval Office? Monkeys with a football.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 19, 2013 12:13 PM (QupBk)

210 Posted by: Qestionmann at November 19, 2013 04:08 PM (TS9aB) So, how are things at Politico these days? Plenty of wipes available for your chin?

Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 19, 2013 12:13 PM (1Y+hH)

211 Wow Qestionmann. you have almost mastered a cut and paste troll dump. In a couple of more years you'll be as intelligent and thought provoking as a an email bot.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 19, 2013 12:13 PM (6ahup)

212

Remember when Detroit was not going to get a bailout?

 

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 19, 2013 12:13 PM (R8hU8)

213

Actually, there is no government bailout of the insurance agency here.

However, there is an insurance agency bailout of Obama being requested with offers on how to mitigate the cost.

Posted by: headhunt23 at November 19, 2013 12:14 PM (1Rj18)

214 For God's sake do not be baited by "any" fool who plays a race card. That kind of shit it passe. I know I'm immune to the charge or the inference anymore. You wanna call me a racist when I speak my mind, honestly? Fine, and fuck you.

Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2013 12:14 PM (2NeaA)

215 195 Anybody else getting a mental picture of a herd of goats in heat locked inside the Oval Office?

No. Alpacas. Shaved alpacas.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2013 12:14 PM (wtvvX)

216

Oh, America.  Look at what the fuck you've done to yourself. 

 

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2013 12:14 PM (66ULQ)

217

>>Prices look cheap. You'd walk into the drugstore, get a finger prick, get your results a few hours later.

No needles, no doc visits.

Hope it works. This would be awesomely convenient.

.

.Then the unions will be against it, like White on Rice on a paper plate looking through a glass of milk in a snowstorm. 

Posted by: Registered Voter at November 19, 2013 12:14 PM (kYfFr)

218 So the Census Bureau is denying any "systematic" manipulation? Well, okay then. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 19, 2013 04:11 PM (ZPrif) See, by denying there was any "systematic" manipulation, you can be telling the truth about that, when in fact a lot of unsystematic manipulation was actually going on. And unless somebody specifically asks you about "unsystematic" manipulation, you can rest easy.

Posted by: Census Bureau Office of General Counsel at November 19, 2013 12:14 PM (659DL)

219 Shorter Troll: "Only without opposition can He be Divine."

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2013 12:14 PM (MMC8r)

220 Anybody else getting a mental picture of a herd of goats in heat locked inside the Oval Office?

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2013 04:11 PM (wAQA5)

 

 

More like Homer trying to make breakfast for Mr. Burns and even the cornflakes burst into flames.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Reprehension, Condemnation, and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 19, 2013 12:14 PM (hLRSq)

221 207  Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2013 04:12 PM (rSTkb)


Those numbers are a pimple on the butt of what they had before. See my links above.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 12:15 PM (FTQyq)

222 >>U.S. and Afghan officials reportedly have reached a tentative
agreement on a critical security pact — which would include President
Obama writing a letter to the Afghan people acknowledging mistakes
during the “war on terror.”


*fumes*

And when can the American people expect a letter for mistake made in Benghazi, the IRS scandal, Fast and Furious......

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2013 12:15 PM (JRmiD)

223 So the Census Bureau is denying any "systematic" manipulation?

Except for some rogue low-level employees in the Cincinnati office...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2013 12:16 PM (wtvvX)

224

Welcome back Allen G

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 19, 2013 12:16 PM (R8hU8)

225 Well, since said parents spent most of their time in New York shooting heroin and cornholing each other and spent the rest of their time in Tangiers shooting heroin and cornholing Arab boys when they weren't corn holing each other, that whole parenting thing just might have taken an unfortunate turn. Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 19, 2013 04:11 PM (0cMkb) But cornholing is such a loving act, n'est pas? That's why it is now included in "Common Core" for grades K-3rd.

Posted by: Comrade Jesse, not welcoming our socialist overlords at November 19, 2013 12:16 PM (kkbgQ)

226 The best part of this is that a lot of the big, hated health insurers are non-profits .... But this attempt to demonize them and nationalize them is beyond absurd.

They've been demonizing and harassing non-profits they don't like (churches, tea party groups, pro-life groups, etc) since 2008.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 19, 2013 12:16 PM (ZKzrr)

227 Granted, it IS tough to cut and paste when your fingers are coated with Cheeto dust and your mom keeps yelling at you to get the hell out of the basement and get a goddam job.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 12:16 PM (7ObY1)

228 Shorter Questionman: You're racisty racists what are racists!!!1111!!!!

Posted by: The Bourbon in Boehner's Belly at November 19, 2013 12:16 PM (0cMkb)

229 107 Totes serious question here...does anyone have the job of keeping an eye on POTUS to make sure he isn't cracking up? And I don't mean the Jarret Ferret, Mooch or Reggie, I mean an official doctor type, or maybe someone in the Secret Service? Posted by: Mayday at November 19, 2013 03:59 PM (eHc+1) -------- In full disclosure, I was not really a political follower until I started reading Ace, so I can't say if a president always has an ambulance on stand-by, but it has always seemed weird that Bammy always has them on the WH lawn and on every vacation he has taken. On Weasel Zippers blog, however, there is a story that says Bammy has to write an apology to Afganistan and sign the paper! THAT would imply that he has had a mental breakdown already! Since when do American presidents write and sign apologies?

Posted by: Chilling the most at November 19, 2013 12:17 PM (gxtMZ)

230 More like Homer trying to make breakfast for Mr. Burns and even the cornflakes burst into flames. --- The next-best thing would be Homer's attempt to bring additional customers to the bowling alley. *reads book entitled "Advanced Marketing"* *reads book entitled "Basic Marketing"* *reads dictionary definition of marketing* *runs around shooting off shotgun and screaming "Bowling"* "Mom, make dad tell the story right!" "He is."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 19, 2013 12:18 PM (/Crba)

231
I'm sick and tired of hearing things
From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
I've had enough of reading things
By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth

No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky
Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
With just a pocketful of hope
Money for dope
Money for rope

I've had enough of watching scenes
Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas
All I want is the truth now
Just gimme some truth

Posted by: Gimme Some Truth -- John Lennon at November 19, 2013 12:18 PM (e8kgV)

232 They write and sign apologies ever since they started bowing to foreign leaders.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Reprehension, Condemnation, and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 19, 2013 12:18 PM (hLRSq)

233 But cornholing is such a loving act, n'est pas? That's why it is now included in "Common Core" for grades K-3rd. --- Cornholing is apparently a wholesome family activity in the Midwest.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 19, 2013 12:19 PM (/Crba)

234

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 19, 2013 04:18 PM (/Crba)

 

 

Heh, I had forgotten that one.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Reprehension, Condemnation, and More at the Outrage Outlet! at November 19, 2013 12:19 PM (hLRSq)

235 Commander Barky's apology to the Afghans is going to go over quite well with vets.

And by "well" I mean seething rage.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 12:20 PM (lVPtV)

236 Bammy: I'm sorry. PERIOD.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 12:20 PM (7ObY1)

237 Yet again, we have failed Him. Also, robots.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about robots at November 19, 2013 12:20 PM (QupBk)

238 In full disclosure, I was not really a political follower until I started reading Ace, so I can't say if a president always has an ambulance on stand-by, but it has always seemed weird that Bammy always has them on the WH lawn and on every vacation he has taken. On Weasel Zippers blog, however, there is a story that says Bammy has to write an apology to Afganistan and sign the paper! THAT would imply that he has had a mental breakdown already! Since when do American presidents write and sign apologies? Posted by: Chilling the most at November 19, 2013 04:17 PM (gxtMZ) http://tinyurl.com/dzmsg3

Posted by: jwb7605[/i][/u][/b] at November 19, 2013 12:20 PM (Qxe/p)

239

199^^^^DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2013 04:09 PM (23Kgq)

----
If all he does is cut and paste..... is he still really a troll???

 

 

No. At that point he is a plagerizing twat-waffle.

 

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at November 19, 2013 12:20 PM (znT2j)

240 196 So the Census Bureau is denying any "systematic" manipulation? Well, okay then. Mainly because it was "systemic", not "systematic". Assholes.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 19, 2013 12:20 PM (sCO74)

241 Ooh Ooh...I sort of saw Twat Waffle open for the Indigo Girls at Rosie's Red Door in Toronto in 1997. By "sort-of," I mean I walked by the door of the club, heard some tunes, stuck my head in, realized it was THAT kind of club, and quickly left.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at November 19, 2013 12:22 PM (7ObY1)

242 Those numbers are a pimple on the butt of what they had before. See my links above.

Posted by: Vic/i]

Your numbers are from 2011. It's 2013. 1293 is more than 1153.

They haven't stopped purchasing.

Also, Reuters June 2011
"When the Treasury Department revamped its rules for participating in government bond auctions two years ago, officials said they were simply modernizing outdated procedures.

The real reason for the change, a Reuters investigation has found, was more serious: The Treasury had concluded that China was buying much more in U.S. government debt than was being disclosed, potentially in violation of auction rules, and it wanted to bring those purchases into the open - all without ruffling feathers in Beijing."

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 19, 2013 12:22 PM (rSTkb)

243 /starts to sing... I hear the bailout comin... its rollin round the bend.... and I aint seen sanity since... I don't know when.... Well I'm stuck in debtor's prison.... and that where I'm gonna stay... and the lies just keep on rollin... that's all I'm gonna say....

Posted by: Romeo13, calling a Spade a Spade, and NOT denouncing himself. at November 19, 2013 12:22 PM (lZBBB)

244 Guys, I've only been gone for a month. Has everyone else forgotten? All trolls are AverageJoe.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 12:22 PM (PYAXX)

245 We can talk abut who stole which election or we can meditate on the magnificence of Obama.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2013 12:23 PM (XUKZU)

246 Since when do American presidents write and sign apologies?

Posted by: Chilling the most at November 19, 2013 04:17 PM (gxtMZ)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

Since January of 2009.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2013 12:23 PM (66ULQ)

247 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 04:22 PM (PYAXX)


Welcome back!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 12:23 PM (lVPtV)

248 Could someone please get Barry on the record soon as to whether people with Employer based coverage will be able to keep it if they like it next year?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2013 12:24 PM (SO2Q8)

249 Obama's not apologizing for himself. He's repudiating Bush and White America.

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2013 12:24 PM (MMC8r)

250 According to recent polls, race relations are at the worst they've been since the Watts riots. Black home ownership, business ownership and employment is down significantly since Obama took office. Foreign relations are also at a low point, with the Prezzy a laughingstock overseas after the Syrian debacle and Iran's continuing hijinks. His signature legislation can't even get out of the blocks after 4 years of tax support and time to build one lousy website that doesn't begin to work. All his main pronouncements on Obamacide are now admitted lies. (This is incomplete but you get the idea.) This is his legacy. Deal with it, cultists.

Posted by: Meremortal, thinking of low info mofos at November 19, 2013 12:24 PM (1Y+hH)

251 Let's talk about you and your problems All that i seem to do is spend the night Just talking 'bout you and your problems No matter what i say i can't get it right Don't think about dreams Is it all a waste of time Don't think about what it all means If you are a friend of mine Talk about me, for a minute I'm the one who's losing Talk about me, for a minute I'm the one who's always losing out And how do you think I feel about what's been going on Let's talk about me for a minute Well how do you think I feel about what's gone wrong

Posted by: The JEF Parsons Project at November 19, 2013 12:24 PM (/Crba)

252 No. No. Sort of. No. Absolutely. WTH? and No.

Posted by: Anserman at November 19, 2013 12:24 PM (QupBk)

253 he gave putin the old stare down, too.  the man is unreal.

Posted by: tully sempronicus at November 19, 2013 12:24 PM (lB/5N)

254 I'm prepared to be okay with the apology if-and-only-if it says: "The American People apologize for thinking we could win the hearts and minds of terrorists. Mistakes were made when we attempted to reason with those slathering savages. All future policy will be to kill them where we find them, and then go looking for more to kill."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 12:25 PM (PYAXX)

255 Ace tries his best to clue Ed Morrissey in; Ed Morrissey decides to stay steadfastly clue-free.

Posted by: lael at November 19, 2013 12:25 PM (m6RUG)

256 Since when do American presidents write and sign apologies? Posted by: Chilling the most at November 19, 2013 04:17 PM (gxtMZ) ___________________________ It started around the same time of the official Obama Apology Tour. During his first term, one of the first things he did was go around the world, bowing and scraping to every tin-pot dictator on the planet, and apologizing for America's imagined sins. He's f*cking demented.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at November 19, 2013 12:25 PM (/sohm)

257 239 Commander Barky's apology to the Afghans is going to go over quite well with vets. And by "well" I mean seething rage. Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 04:20 PM (lVPtV) And no doubt, he will deliver it in person... and bow as he does so....

Posted by: Romeo13, a vet... at November 19, 2013 12:26 PM (lZBBB)

258 Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died....

Posted by: Leonard Cohen at November 19, 2013 12:27 PM (JRmiD)

259 @233 He's going to apologize for Bush.

Posted by: RS at November 19, 2013 12:27 PM (YAGV/)

260 Isn't this fellow a bit old for a dancing boy?

Posted by: loya jirga at November 19, 2013 12:28 PM (QupBk)

261 259 lael at November 19, 2013 04:25 PM (m6RUG)

Poppin' Fresh butters the bottom of his bun so to speak....

Pawlenty feel the ratings

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 12:28 PM (9jfyN)

262 On October 17, the Obama Department of Health and Human Services, represented by the Obama Justice Department, submitted a brief to the federal district court in Washington, opposing Priests for LifeÂ’s summary judgment motion. On page 27 of its brief, the Justice Department makes the following remarkable assertion:

The [ACAÂ’s] grandfathering provisionÂ’s incremental transition does not undermine the governmentÂ’s interests in a significant way. [Citing, among other sources, the Federal Register.] Even under the grandfathering provision, it is projected that more group health plans will transition to the requirements under the regulations as time goes on. Defendants have estimated that a majority of group health plans will have lost their grandfather status by the end of 2013.

Posted by: Pres**ent Barack “Unexpectedly Lying” Obama at November 19, 2013 12:29 PM (e8kgV)

263 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 04:06 PM (PYAXX) Heyoooooo welcome back to the burnununununing...

Posted by: Cajun Caret at November 19, 2013 12:29 PM (UZQM8)

264 Posted by: Leonard Cohen at November 19, 2013 04:27 PM (JRmiD) --- Things are going to slide, slide in all directions Won't be nothing Nothing you can measure anymore The blizzard, the blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold and it has overturned the order of the soul When they said REPENT REPENT I wonder what they meant When they said REPENT REPENT I wonder what they meant When they said REPENT REPENT I wonder what they meant

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 19, 2013 12:30 PM (/Crba)

265 That reminds me. Am I allowed to say it again?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 12:31 PM (PYAXX)

266

Yes

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at November 19, 2013 12:32 PM (R8hU8)

267 I haven't read the comments(or the post) but weren't bailouts cooked into the original bill?

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 19, 2013 12:32 PM (xlX1p)

268

We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House.

Posted by: John McCain at November 19, 2013 12:32 PM (Pr6hk)

269 What, that you have a blog?

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 19, 2013 12:33 PM (SUKHu)

270 That reminds me.

Am I allowed to say it again?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 04:31 PM (PYAXX)

 

 

-------------------------------------------------

 

 

Please do.  It's happening anyway.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2013 12:33 PM (66ULQ)

271 235, what's funny about songs,  rants and screeds written by lefties like Lennon, is that the essential truth contained within can very easily be applied to other lefties...

Posted by: JoeyBagels at November 19, 2013 12:33 PM (uukwP)

272 I haven't read the comments(or the post) but weren't bailouts cooked into the original bill? Yes. Supposedly under certain conditions only.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 12:33 PM (t+DWU)

273 271 Dr Spank at November 19, 2013 04:32 PM (xlX1p)

Yup as were the cessation cycles of personal plans....

ie Ogabe lied

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 12:34 PM (9jfyN)

274 All trolls are AverageJoe.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 04:22 PM (PYAXX)


-----


♪ Dah da-dum....Dah da-dum...Dah da-dum...Dah da-dum ♫


♫ Where have all the good trolls gone.....♫

Posted by: fixerupper at November 19, 2013 12:34 PM (nELVU)

275

As I found out through personal experience, IF it might be 'Politically-Unpopular', there will be NO bailout.

Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at November 19, 2013 12:34 PM (Pr6hk)

276

My prediction? P A I N

Posted by: Barry 'Clubber Lang' Soetoro at November 19, 2013 12:35 PM (Pr6hk)

277 Supposedly under certain conditions only. Yeah, "certain conditions" anyone with knowledge of the industry knew were all but guaranteed to occur.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 12:35 PM (PYAXX)

278 Obama has to funnel large sums of money to cronies in time to come back before the mid-terms. 'Bailing out' the insurance cos is merely an investment (of your money) toward the Permanent Democrat Majority.

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2013 12:35 PM (MMC8r)

279 ...and the Kindly Friends at Politico obliged him. Correction: "...and the Democrat propaganda flacks at Politico obliged him." They're Democrat team members, and nothing else.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 19, 2013 12:35 PM (vd7A8)

280 Thanks.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 19, 2013 12:35 PM (xlX1p)

281 Yes. Supposedly under certain conditions only.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 04:33 PM (t+DWU)

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

Under certain conditions as the law was originally  written.  BUT......well, you know about the buts.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2013 12:36 PM (66ULQ)

282 KBDaBear ‏@kbdabear 5m

Your shitty old policy didn't cover fleas, heartworms, or mange -

Obamacare signs up CO man's dog.

http://tinyurl.com/m8a58hu

Posted by: kbdabear at November 19, 2013 12:36 PM (aTXUx)

283 I'm the only one between you and the pitchforks.

Posted by: Barky McBamastain at November 19, 2013 12:36 PM (Pr6hk)

284 Steely Obama Talks Tough Talks tough until someone champions him. Then, he probably goes home and cries like a baby. In my career, more men have come to my office crying, then women. Way more men. Hence, that emo post earlier cracks me up. I bet it was 4:1 men came to my office, closed the door, and wept about this or that. Professionals. Guys making ~$80-$100k base salaries. I didn't have time for that. Had to shut them down quickly, or refer them, and move on. In essence, I told them to calm down, boys, but in a much professional manner. Guarantee you, even though many see JEF as a socio or psychopath, he cries like a little baby.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 12:37 PM (IXrOn)

285 President Barack Obama:

An anagram for: An Arab Backed Imposter

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2013 12:37 PM (oJ5Fd)

286 Under certain conditions as the law was originally written. BUT......well, you know about the buts. *Yeah. Expiration date was end of speech.*

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 12:37 PM (t+DWU)

287 Does this all really matter?  Look at those creases.

Posted by: David Brooks at November 19, 2013 12:38 PM (Pr6hk)

288 "I got my new health card today and there was a sticker on it that said if I registered online I would get 5000 rewards points. I was unaware my new health coverage was akin to a Starbucks card. Wonder what I get with my rewards points? A free colonoscopy?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 19, 2013 04:07 PM (RZ8pf)"


For you?  A free prostate exam.



Posted by: Jimbo at November 19, 2013 12:38 PM (V70Uh)

289 246  he Treasury had concluded that China was buying much more in U.S. government debt than was being disclosed, potentially in violation of auction rules, and it wanted to bring those purchases into the open - all without ruffling feathers in Beijing."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2013 04:22 PM (rSTkb)



Do you believe anything issued by the OBama Treasury Dept?  As my links showed the Chinese began selling in 2009 and quit buying in 2011.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2013 12:39 PM (FTQyq)

290 I saw Steely Obama open up for Spiro Gyra at Wolsey Hall in 1989

Posted by: phreshone at November 19, 2013 12:39 PM (Pr6hk)

291 289 President Barack Obama: An anagram for: An Arab Backed Imposter Wow, I've missed this until 11/18/2013? Sheesh.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at November 19, 2013 12:40 PM (sCO74)

292 The bailout will be televised and Barky will lose whats left of his most ardent leftist butt sniffers as they despise corporate insurance companies. No matter though BigGov™ will officially own the Health Insurance industry and single payer will be the way it is. Meh...maybe they will combine the DMV with EMS services sorta like the the KFC/Baskin Robbins stores...you know one stop shopping...and shit.


Posted by: dananjcon at November 19, 2013 12:40 PM (wmU4G)

293 Obamacare signs up CO man's dog.

http://tinyurl.com/m8a58hu

Posted by: kbdabear at November 19, 2013 04:36 PM (aTXUx)




If you like your vet, you can keep your vet.  Period.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2013 12:40 PM (lVPtV)

294 Get you laws off of my prostate.

Posted by: eleven at November 19, 2013 12:40 PM (fsLdt)

295 pgis you get points? my card says it doesn't guarantee coverage.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at November 19, 2013 12:40 PM (8JJ6O)

296 It's not a bailout. It's a Kinetic Healthcare Operation.

Posted by: Jay Carney at November 19, 2013 12:40 PM (j0wOO)

297 Oh, my. I feel another rage headache coming on. *twitches* Here, have a Miltown...

Posted by: Dave Berg at November 19, 2013 12:40 PM (PMGbu)

298 For you? A free prostate exam.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 19, 2013 04:38 PM (V70Uh)

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

With three fingers, not just one.  Congratulations  on being an Ocare winner.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2013 12:42 PM (66ULQ)

299 Steely Obama/The Rolling Reagans
One night only the Stone Pony summer of 83'



Posted by: dananjcon at November 19, 2013 12:42 PM (wmU4G)

300 Before you Insurance Guys say no, I'll let you look at these draft DoJ lawsuits.

Posted by: Eric Holder at November 19, 2013 12:42 PM (Pr6hk)

301
Ace tries his best to clue Ed Morrissey in; Ed Morrissey decides to stay steadfastly clue-free.
Posted by: lael

Ed Morrissey ‏@EdMorrissey
@AceofSpadesHQ He's offering a subsidy for the loss, not a bailout -- which is why insurers are refusing to go along.



*shakes head*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 19, 2013 12:43 PM (kdS6q)

302 It's not a bailout. It's a tax.

Posted by: Justice Roberts at November 19, 2013 12:43 PM (5ikDv)

303 Before you Insurance Guys say no, I'll let you look at these draft DoJ lawsuits.

Posted by: Eric Holder at November 19, 2013 04:42 PM (Pr6hk)


-----


..... and THAT boys and girls, is how Democracy works today.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 19, 2013 12:43 PM (nELVU)

304

Fot the ladies it's a prostrate exam.

 

Am i right guys? Right?

Posted by: eleven at November 19, 2013 12:43 PM (fsLdt)

305 300 It's not a bailout. It's a Kinetic Healthcare Operation. Posted by: Jay Carney at November 19, 2013 04:40 PM (j0wOO) Its a new iteration of the very popular Cash for Clunkers program... But now, what we defined as substandard Junk Health insurance, is now considered a Clunker. Because..... shut up....

Posted by: Romeo13, a vet... at November 19, 2013 12:43 PM (lZBBB)

306 Guarantee you, even though many see JEF as a socio or psychopath, he cries like a little baby. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 04:37 PM (IXrOn) or more likely sucks his thumb and wets the bed... at least that's how I envision him.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 19, 2013 12:43 PM (EJ/Tn)

307 Fot the ladies it's a prostrate exam. Am i right guys? Right? As long as I get my pap smear.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 12:45 PM (t+DWU)

308 For you? A free prostate exam. Buy one, get one free. Same visit only.

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2013 12:45 PM (MMC8r)

309 "Steely?"
The little boy in the empty suit?
Good satire....

Posted by: backhoe at November 19, 2013 12:45 PM (ULH4o)

310 In a bulletin just handed me: Liberals lie. In other news, fish are often wet.

Posted by: Walter Concrete at November 19, 2013 12:46 PM (O7OxF)

311 Subsidies in Subcities

Posted by: dananjcon at November 19, 2013 12:46 PM (wmU4G)

312

I bet it was 4:1 men came to my office, closed the door, and wept about this or that.

Professionals. Guys making ~$80-$100k base salaries.

 

That's.....sad. 

Posted by: eleven at November 19, 2013 12:47 PM (fsLdt)

313 Vic is right Additionally QE in 13 will exceed the yearly deficit The JPMChase 'settlement' comes from interest on reserves (reserves Fed gave them) so the Fed is basically printing $ for Jpmc who then gives the $$ to DOJ who gives it to Detroit And all the dollars we are holding that we worked for are devalued and our standard of living just keeps falling *just keep swimming*

Posted by: ginaswo at November 19, 2013 12:47 PM (/fxIZ)

314 "I got my new health card today and there was a
sticker on it that said if I registered online I would get 5000 rewards
points. I was unaware my new health coverage was akin to a Starbucks
card. Wonder what I get with my rewards points? A free colonoscopy?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 19, 2013 04:07 PM (RZ8pf)"
For you? A free prostate exam.
-
Administered by Barney Frank

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2013 12:48 PM (XUKZU)

315 I would make a crack out Office Space type guys but I don't want to hit any friendlies.

Posted by: eleven at November 19, 2013 12:48 PM (fsLdt)

316 "There will be no bailout."

"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

I guess Ed Morrissey agrees with Obama/Politico, a *little* bailout-- one that doesn't cover *all* the insurers' loss, doesn't cover their losses *completely*-- doesn't count as a bailout. So Obama's statement is true.

Analogously, I guess, the "small minority" of Americans who lost their plans, didn't make Obama's pledge untrue. After all, the vast majority were able to keep their plans!

A little ("insufficient") bailout, a small minority of people losing their plans... that's covered by "period."

So Obama doesn't lie; Ed Morrissey's logic backs this up.

Posted by: lael at November 19, 2013 12:48 PM (m6RUG)

317 ot, but martin bashir's apology to Sarah Palin is pretty intense. Is he that good of an actor, or is he sincere.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 12:48 PM (IXrOn)

318 Erik Prince is not the kind of man one expects to make the case for slashing U.S. intelligence and military budgets. After 9-11, his company, Blackwater, expanded exponentially, winning contracts to protect diplomats and politicians in Iraq and to train and work with CIA paramilitary teams hunting terrorists.

In an interview Monday, Prince said the national security state he once served has grown too large.

“America is way too quick to trade freedom for the illusion of security,” he told The Daily Beast. “Whether it’s allowing the NSA to go way too far in what it intercepts of our personal data, to our government monitoring of everything domestically and spending way more than we should. I don’t know if I want to live in a country where lone wolf and random terror attacks are impossible ‘cause that country would look more like North Korea than America.”

Posted by: Herbert Hoover at November 19, 2013 12:49 PM (e8kgV)

319

Just received my latest shipment of freezed dried food -  mac and cheese, blueberry and milk granola,  bananas and  lasagna.    All my prepper food is due to expire by the time I am 78 so  I figure that collapse or no collapse ,  I won't be food shopping anymore after I turn 70.  

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2013 12:49 PM (m2CN7)

320

And through all of this, the LIV's think that Dear Leader will fix this just like he said he would.   

 

The collapse is going to happen before the next election.  I'm really starting to wonder  about the 2014 election.  Will it even happen.

Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2013 12:49 PM (66ULQ)

321 Ed Morrissey ‏@EdMorrissey
@AceofSpadesHQ He's offering a subsidy for the loss, not a bailout -- which is why insurers are refusing to go along.



*shakes head*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 19, 2013 04:43 PM (kdS6q)


Morrisey is suspiciously obutuse from time to time, like he's fronting ideas for someone.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 19, 2013 12:49 PM (AWmfW)

322 subsidies=revenue=bailout=taxes=(.)=(o)=(O)

Posted by: dananjcon at November 19, 2013 12:49 PM (wmU4G)

323 Bashir's apology would be more sincere if he was on the unemployment line.

Posted by: dantesed at November 19, 2013 12:50 PM (JDLZi)

324 The JPMChase 'settlement' comes from interest on reserves (reserves Fed gave them) so the Fed is basically printing $ for Jpmc who then gives the $$ to DOJ who gives it to Detroit

Posted by: ginaswo at November 19, 2013 04:47 PM (/fxIZ)

Bullshit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2013 12:50 PM (oJ5Fd)

325

If you like your vet, you can keep your vet. Period.-Jane D'oh

 

Whew, big fricking sigh of relief. The setters are happy. The next nearest vet is some guy who got his vet degree at some 3rd world country. And no he doesn't practice vet medicine any better than he speaks English.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 12:50 PM (HVff2)

326 321
ot, but martin bashir's apology to Sarah Palin is pretty intense.

Is he that good of an actor, or is he sincere.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2013 04:48 PM (IXrOn)


A sane honest person wouldn't have said that to begin with.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 19, 2013 12:50 PM (AWmfW)

327 ot, but martin bashir's apology to Sarah Palin is pretty intense. Is he that good of an actor, or is he sincere. Actor.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2013 12:51 PM (t+DWU)

328 I bet it was 4:1 men came to my office, closed the door, and wept about this or that. Professionals. Guys making ~$80-$100k base salaries.

That's.....sad.
-
I haven't cried since Tom Hanks was killed in Saving Private Ryan.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2013 12:51 PM (XUKZU)

329 325 Temper Tantrum at November 19, 2013 04:49 PM (AWmfW)

He's one step to the right of MN DFL democrat/socialists on econ and is a Catholic SoCon...

Ed is just being Ed

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 12:51 PM (9jfyN)

330 You wanna know whats notta gonna come Upton?

Posted by: Harry Reid at November 19, 2013 12:52 PM (uBVzH)

331

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 04:51 PM (9jfyN)

 

Eeee Gadz, Lovey......He wants to be Jesse Ventura.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 12:52 PM (HVff2)

332

I haven't cried since Tom Hanks was killed in Saving Private Ryan.

 

What got me was the opening.  Jesus.

Posted by: eleven at November 19, 2013 12:52 PM (fsLdt)

333 So let me get this straight. According to Morrisey- a "subsidy of the loss" is not the same as a "bailout." Okay... maybe he could define the terms "bailout" and "subsidy" so I can understand the difference. Because I think the auto and mortgage "bailouts" were subsidizing losses sustained by the auto-makers and the mortgage lenders.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 12:52 PM (PYAXX)

334 The President had directed staff to come up with terms that mean 'bail out' but don't include the words "bail", "out", "Stimulus", or "Investment". Thus, we can say with certainly that there will be no bailout. And by staff, I mean you people in the press briefing room. Now stop asking me stupid questions and get to work.

Posted by: Jay Carney at November 19, 2013 12:52 PM (j0wOO)

335 nude

Posted by: fixerupper at November 19, 2013 12:53 PM (nELVU)

336 Administered by Barney Frank

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 19, 2013 04:48 PM (XUKZU)

Not me!.

Girls are icky!

Posted by: Barney Frank at November 19, 2013 12:53 PM (oJ5Fd)

337 QE started out simply.  The Fed lends money to banks who then buy Treasury Securities.  Banks make a shitload of money on the float.  Let say you are a troubled bank.  Fed lends you a trillion dollars at 0.25%.  You buy T-Bills paying 1.25%  You make 10 Billion dollars in a year.

But none of this was really helping the economy, so the Fed started buying other bonds and stocks.  A few more years of this and the Fed will own everything.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 19, 2013 12:54 PM (V70Uh)

338 335 Misanthropic Humantiarian at November 19, 2013 04:52 PM (HVff2)

BWAHAHA heh thanks I needed that McMahon

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 12:55 PM (9jfyN)

339 BIDEN: Mark my words, within the next — first six months of this administration, if we win, they’re going to — we’re going to face a major international challenge, ’cause they’re going to want to test him, just like they did John Kennedy, they’re going to want to test him, and they’re going to find out this guy’s got steel in his spine.

Posted by: Dean Rusk at November 19, 2013 12:56 PM (e8kgV)

340 337 AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 19, 2013 04:52 PM (PYAXX)

What Ed means is "I need to stifle this rage at Ogabecare stat! break out the In Fairness battery!"

Posted by: sven10077 at November 19, 2013 12:56 PM (9jfyN)

341 The collapse is going to happen before the next election. I'm really starting to wonder about the 2014 election. Will it even happen. Posted by: Soona at November 19, 2013 04:49 PM (66ULQ) Of course the election will happen! Sheesh! What else am I going to do with all these death certificates? Do you think I suspended immigration enforcement for nothing? Oh... you probably meant your vote counting for anything. Sorry. We've already got 115% of people voting in several districts. Your vote won't be necessary.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Chairman of GM and Inventor of the Volt at November 19, 2013 12:57 PM (j0wOO)

342
Oh Waldo, say it ain't so, not another bail out?

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 19, 2013 12:58 PM (pJF+c)

343 The prolapse will be televised.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 19, 2013 12:59 PM (wmU4G)

344
I've had three anal prolapse, and my gerbils died in the reinsertion process.

Posted by: Barney Frank at November 19, 2013 01:01 PM (pJF+c)

345 So once again we see the funding mechanism for giving taxpayer money to illegal aliens when they are granted amnesty via an intermediary, the insurance companies. ObamaCare was not a series of unintended consequences, it was written in Byzantine bureaucratic language for a reason. The creators of this monster foresaw the possibility that not enough money could be stolen from the premium rate payers, employers and medical care providers thus made provision on the back end to have the federal government backstop the entire program, i.e. a modified single payer system where the insurance companies act as a private version of CMS writing checks. The truth be told and it is rare with this bunch, knowing that all the illegal aliens could never pay for health insurance themselves devised a Rube Goldbergian system that got around the current laws that forbid illegals from receiving tax payer funds. This was done with the full knowledge that no Congress would ever overtly pass a bill that legalized what most Americans would see as an outrageous abuse of their tax dollars in the context of annual multi-billion dollar deficits and a growing massive national debt. Obamanomics at its core is the corrupt third world practice of issuing government bonds with no intention of ever repaying the principle. Liberals, not content with being unable to find new rubes to pay more taxes, believe they have hit upon the perfect perpetual motion Ponzi scheme. Stealth taxation via inflation to raise limitless revenue, for what is a government bond other than a Dollar bill with interest. Obama is following Robert Mugabe's perfected economic model, theft.

Posted by: dscott at November 20, 2013 03:30 AM (PQhpg)

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