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March 13, 2013

The Pope is Bergoglio of Buenos Aires
— Ace

He's a Jesuit. Or was a Jesuit. I don't know if you're a Jesuit forever or you stop being a Jesuit when you move up in the hierarchy.

Sullivan's reacts here, a bit more restrained than I was expecting.

"Francis:" He's chosen his papal name, "Francis." I asked @fredosso who picks that and he says the pope himself.

So he's a Stripes fan. That's a good sign.

No but really Francis Xavier was the first Jesuit to be pope. Thanks to @drewmtips.

Gateway Pundit says the actual name is "Franciscum." I don't know which is correct, or if Franciscum is formal and "Francis" is informal.

Oops: Francis Xavier was the first Jesuit (co-founder, so it's a tie), not the "first Jesuit pope" as I said. Francis I (Bergoglio) is the first Jesuit pope.

Thanks to @tsrblke.

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1 Scola is out?!?! Scola is out?!?!

Posted by: EC at March 13, 2013 11:18 AM (GQ8sn)

2 First. . .
Latin American Pontiff?

Posted by: looking closely at March 13, 2013 11:18 AM (PwGfd)

3 I still smell sulfur.

Posted by: Hugo Chavez at March 13, 2013 11:18 AM (YOZSv)

Not a European. I don't think anyone in Europe actually cares.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 13, 2013 11:18 AM (AC0lD)

5 Let's hope he's not one of the commie priests they seem to grow down there.

Posted by: ejo at March 13, 2013 11:19 AM (GXvSO)

6 IIRC Jesuits are the ones in the universities like Georgetown and are very, very, very liberal. Liberation theology types

Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2013 11:19 AM (Dnbau)

7
A Jesuit?

Weren't they known for being strict? Or was that in the classroom of parochial schools?

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2013 11:19 AM (9Q7Nu)

8 And the MSM, led by St. Andi the Gob-Smacked, throws a conniption fit because the College of Cardinals chose a Catholic to be Pope.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 13, 2013 11:19 AM (YO39q)

9 I like the South American part. I do not like the Jesuit part. Whatevs tho, I am not Catholic. Oh, and Ace, check ur tweets. I think OFA needs some of your attention.

Posted by: Koenig Jojo at March 13, 2013 11:19 AM (Yv6gq)

10
So I would say at 76, they wanted a Latin American, but still quite aged.

He was 2nd though in the vote for Pope Benedict.

First Jesuit. (liberals hardest hit).

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 13, 2013 11:19 AM (SXIWf)

11 Shit. A Jesuit. From South America.

This does not bode well.

Posted by: Filly at March 13, 2013 11:20 AM (sSQ6L)

Are the media now asking where he stands on womyn in the priesthood and gay marriage yet?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 13, 2013 11:20 AM (AC0lD)

13 I thought his name was going to be Pope Maximus Decimus Meridius?

Posted by: Joe Momma at March 13, 2013 11:20 AM (659DL)

14 I am a little surprised that he's a Jesuit. I thought the Conclave would never pick another Jesuit.

Posted by: Dianna at March 13, 2013 11:21 AM (DV/Ik)

15 Damn. I had him in my bracket, but had him losing in the Sweet Sixteen.

Posted by: Wes Mantooth at March 13, 2013 11:21 AM (s/Ukz)

16 Heard Sheppy over the radio waves saying he's a "reformer." FWIW

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 13, 2013 11:21 AM (1fXeS)

17 11 Shit. A Jesuit. From South America.

This does not bode well.

^^^^This^^^^^^

What's the over/under on lady priests? 5 years? I'll take the under.

Posted by: Oschisms at March 13, 2013 11:21 AM (pfVS8)

18
He's 76, not a reformer.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 13, 2013 11:22 AM (SXIWf)

19 "Weren't they known for being strict? Or was that in the classroom of parochial schools?"

Ironically, the Jesuits were formed to combat heresey, but these days they're the epicenter of liberal rules-slackening bullshit.

Pissed. And shocked. Was hoping for a conservative from a B16 conclave. But maybe he was elected because he bucks the usual Jesuit trend, who know.

Posted by: Filly at March 13, 2013 11:22 AM (sSQ6L)

20 Jesuits are smart and conservative. But who knows.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at March 13, 2013 11:22 AM (QxSug)

21 Reports say he picked the name "Francis" for himself.

Who'd'a thunk we'd get an Argentinian Sinatra fan?

Not being a Catholic, I remain unmoved. On the other hand, Kathryn Jean Lopez will be writing about this for weeks....

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 13, 2013 11:22 AM (4InMH)

22 They will not have lady priests before they have married priests.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2013 11:23 AM (g7q64)

23 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 13, 2013 11:23 AM (4OvDk)

Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: LibertarianJim (team #letitburn) at March 13, 2013 11:23 AM (CMbMd)

Papa Frankie

Posted by: Bigby's OK at March 13, 2013 11:23 AM (3ZtZW)

26 Hmmm, wonder where are the vestments are? Don't they normally have a little red cape and a stole?

Posted by: Mrs Compton at March 13, 2013 11:23 AM (dX4hn)

27 I question the timing.

Posted by: R. at March 13, 2013 11:24 AM (+NgVx)

28 #6
Jesuits are the "marines" of the Catholic church.

They're on the front lines of education, outreach/missionary work, and they've also historically been spearheading reforms withing the Church.

Yes, there are a lot of them who are devoted to education and are going to be absorbed with all the negative things associated with modern education, but they're mostly the ones actually out there in the "real world" getting things done.

Posted by: looking closely at March 13, 2013 11:24 AM (PwGfd)

29 as a graduate from a fine Jesuit institution, I can assure you they are not liberal in many aspects. They do however appreciate adult beverages and included them in most every university function...so there is that.

Posted by: cu'chulainn at March 13, 2013 11:24 AM (Vk2CC)

30
He looked a little stunned there before he spoke.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 13, 2013 11:24 AM (SXIWf)

31 IIRC Jesuits are the ones in the universities like Georgetown and are very, very, very liberal. Liberation theology types
---
First Jesuit. (liberals hardest hit).

Any chance we could get a clarification on this point?

Anne Barnhardt seemed to think there was going to be a housecleaning of marxist-homosexuals (her term) in the clergy. Does this guy make that more or less likely?

Posted by: Methos, not Catholic, but curious at March 13, 2013 11:24 AM (hO9ad)

32 Scola claiming not all votes were counted in Broward Diocese!

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2013 11:25 AM (ZshNr)

33 I, for one, look forward to the new "cheddar-jack with jalapeno" communal wafers. (I'm sorry, that was in bad taste: I just couldn't help it).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at March 13, 2013 11:25 AM (4OvDk)

Thinking he ain't your typical Jesuit. pushed away very early from liberation theology. pretty conservative. Pope Benedict appointed over half the cardinals. HE was elected by conservative cardinals. the chance of this guy being a Jesuit in the US sense must be miniscule.

Posted by: Mac at March 13, 2013 11:25 AM (0J18b)

35 Wish they'd gone with a US prelate. Just as the selection of a Polish pontiff led to the battering-down of Communism in the now-ex-Soviet Bloc, it would have been great to have an American pontiff ushering in the collapse of Communism in Obamastan.

Posted by: RamonAllones at March 13, 2013 11:25 AM (3lLli)

36 Just as long as he's pro-choice and pro gay marriage I'm good.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 13, 2013 11:25 AM (4cRnj)

37 >>>Sullivan's reacts here, a bit more restrained than I was expecting.

OK I bit that down to the reel

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 13, 2013 11:25 AM (0q2P7)

38 Now THIS is a sweet gig!

Posted by: Pope Emeritus at March 13, 2013 11:26 AM (wIgpo)

39 Reports say he picked the name "Francis" for himself.

Prophecy of the Popes hardest hit.

Posted by: Methos at March 13, 2013 11:26 AM (hO9ad)

40 #26 Mrs. Compton - What?!

The Pope wears white.

Posted by: Dianna at March 13, 2013 11:26 AM (DV/Ik)

41 I, for one, look forward to the new "cheddar-jack with jalapeno" communal wafers.

Not from Argentina.

But you might find an anchovy on there

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 13, 2013 11:26 AM (QTHTd)

42 Argentina?
Commie.

Posted by: Wristband Of White Privilege at March 13, 2013 11:26 AM (Cs2tJ)

43 Does this mean the Falklands will soon become Las Malvinas?

Posted by: angel with a sword at March 13, 2013 11:27 AM (3RiPs)

44 Odd that another older cardinal was elected.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2013 11:27 AM (If4Wt)

I just want Western liberals to be somehow, horribly hurt, anguished and pissed off about his selection.

Is that too much to ask?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 13, 2013 11:27 AM (AC0lD)

46 Does this mean the Falklands will soon become Las Malvinas? Posted by: angel with a sword at March 13, 2013 03:27 PM (3RiPs) How many Divisions does the Pope have?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 11:27 AM (jE38p)

47 Tanto e bello, quanto e santo!

Posted by: sfumata bianca at March 13, 2013 11:28 AM (Kxz3Y)

48 All the way to #24 before somebody took my idea.

Posted by: USS Diversity at March 13, 2013 11:28 AM (+bZOu)

49 One thing I know about the Jesuits is that they pushed for a government program in the United States to support the elderly. Look at your paystub to figure out the name of that program.

Posted by: Puddy [/i] at March 13, 2013 11:28 AM (feFL6)

50 Maybe he was a commie like John Paul was a commie, that is a victim of location.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at March 13, 2013 11:28 AM (QxSug)

51 I think he just called Obama a punk.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2013 11:28 AM (4cRnj)

52 Actually, if he got promoted by PJII or BXVI he's a doctrinal conservative. They've been purging the libs quietly out of the Jesuits.
But don't forget Lib ad Conservative mean different things in the Church.

Posted by: Iblis at March 13, 2013 11:28 AM (9221z)

53 fox news english translation on their website sucks!

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at March 13, 2013 11:28 AM (QxSug)

54 WHat is this sky-god gibberish he is spouting??/ Guy at the barstool next to me claims it is something called "Italian" ....

Posted by: Low Info Voter at March 13, 2013 11:28 AM (Dwi+I)

55 And now, thousands of terabytes of twitter conspiracy theories, since he's a Jesuit. And speaks German. And of course, the bit about the alien abduction.*

Posted by: joncelli, dodging the Zombies of Sequester at March 13, 2013 11:29 AM (RD7QR)

56 i]So I would say at 76, they wanted a Latin American, but still quite aged.

Did they learn nothing from our experience?

Posted by: Post-Brezhnev Politburo at March 13, 2013 11:29 AM (YXmuI)

57 Social justice baby!

Posted by: Pope Francis at March 13, 2013 11:29 AM (Cs2tJ)

58 *I might have made that last part up.

Posted by: joncelli, dodging the Zombies of Sequester at March 13, 2013 11:29 AM (RD7QR)

59 But will he get high with Snoop Dogg?

oh... wait, the white smoke

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 13, 2013 11:29 AM (QTHTd)

60 Maybe they can take back Georgetown University

Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 13, 2013 11:29 AM (QxSug)

61 Does this mean the Falklands will soon become Las Malvinas?

Lurking British fast attack submarines would argue otherwise.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2013 11:29 AM (If4Wt)

62 Old popes are a safer pick. Only 10 years or so. Limits upside but limits downside if its a bad pope. Young popes can do great good, but can do great harm by having so much time to build power and the cult of personality.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 11:29 AM (ZPrif)

>>>Prophecy of the Popes hardest hit.

They'll figger out a way to shoe-horn it in.

And, vapors aside, it wasn't saying Teh End of teh World!!1! it was saying end of Rome and the Roman Pontificate.

Unless it was more like the end of the Mayan Calendar [end of tape]

Posted by: Bigby's OK at March 13, 2013 11:29 AM (3ZtZW)

I just want Western liberals to be somehow, horribly hurt, anguished and pissed off about his selection.

Is that too much to ask?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 13, 2013 03:27 PM (AC0lD)

I'm with ya.

A Latin American Pope. Gah. I really, REALLY hope he's not like his fellow LA brethren.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 13, 2013 11:30 AM (4df7R)

65 53 fox news english translation on their website sucks!

Corrected for accuracy.

Posted by: Attila at March 13, 2013 11:30 AM (Cs2tJ)

66 Presumably we'll get some hollywood conspiracy thrillers about Jesuits now.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 11:30 AM (ZPrif)

67 and maybe this guy has some strong opinions on what to do about the Mohammedian intrusions in Africa and Europe?

Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 13, 2013 11:30 AM (QxSug)

68

Re: Francis and the homos (keeping with the Stripes reference)

In a letter to the monasteries of Buenos Aires [on gay marriage], he wrote: "Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God. And none of you homos better touch me."

I might have edited that a bit.

Posted by: imp at March 13, 2013 11:30 AM (UaxA0)

69 Maybe they can take back Georgetown University Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 13, 2013 03:29 PM

G-Town ain't gonna push back against the new Chairman of the Board!

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 13, 2013 11:31 AM (4InMH)

He's already talking about "latino immigrants to the US"?

wtf?

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2013 11:31 AM (2xMNt)

71 Give a shout out to Papi Frankis

Posted by: TFG at March 13, 2013 11:31 AM (fWAjv)

72 60 Maybe they can take back Georgetown University

Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 13, 2013 03:29 PM (QxSug)

His first Papal miracle !

Posted by: Attila at March 13, 2013 11:31 AM (Cs2tJ)

73 Francis Xavier was never a Pope.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2013 11:31 AM (g7q64)

74 Will he implement a Spread offense or stay with the Wing-T?

Posted by: USS Diversity at March 13, 2013 11:31 AM (+bZOu)

75 Franciscum on the rocks w/a twist ...

Posted by: Jess1 at March 13, 2013 11:31 AM (lbiWb)

76 So if he is from Latin America does that mean he is a Dodger Fan rather than a Yankee Fan?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 11:32 AM (jE38p)

77 Missed opportunity to call himself Pope Aramis.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 13, 2013 11:32 AM (v9K50)

78 #correction Francis Xavier was never Pope. He was a very active missionary, especially in the Far East (in fact, he died in China).

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 13, 2013 11:32 AM (fMiHM)

79 My HS was Xaverian and I went to Xavier U., think I can get a VIP tour?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2013 11:32 AM (ZshNr)

80
Ha. Imp that was a good addition. LOL

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 13, 2013 11:32 AM (SXIWf)

81 Will the Catholic Church be like the World Cup and Olympics? Pope will rotate every 4 years between continents. Latin American Pope , then a black Pope, then an asian Pope, then a white Pope. Then repeat.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 11:32 AM (ZPrif)

82 But don't forget Lib ad Conservative mean different things in the Church.

lib=leftist-satanist just about anywhere these days.

Posted by: Methos at March 13, 2013 11:32 AM (hO9ad)

83 In a letter to the monasteries of Buenos Aires [on gay marriage], he wrote: "Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God. And none of you homos better touch me." that's reassuring.

Posted by: joeindc44 says God bless Francis I at March 13, 2013 11:32 AM (QxSug)

84 Pope Lighten Up

Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville at March 13, 2013 11:32 AM (Dll6b)

85 I don't know much about him, but if the MSM is appalled I'll know the cardinals made an excellent choice, and be summarily thrilled.

"Sullivan's... a bit more restrained than I was expecting."

That is not a good sign.

Posted by: Filly at March 13, 2013 11:32 AM (sSQ6L)

86 Jesuits invented Social Justice.

Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2013 11:33 AM (Ai4/I)

"Francis Xavier was never a Pope."

How 'bout Charles?

Posted by: Jess1 at March 13, 2013 11:33 AM (lbiWb)

88 IS HE GAY???

Posted by: Low Info Voter at March 13, 2013 11:33 AM (Dwi+I)

89 Will Britain have to give back the Falklands?

Posted by: EC at March 13, 2013 11:33 AM (GQ8sn)

90 My wife thinks he looks Jewish. But then my wife figured I was ok to marry. So much for her judgment

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 11:33 AM (jE38p)

91 I was kinda hoping for Dolan seeing as obami dislikes him so much...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 13, 2013 11:33 AM (9+ccr)

92 If they play any of my compositions I'm suing!

Posted by: John Williams at March 13, 2013 11:33 AM (wIgpo)

93 I hope his main goal is to boost the self-esteem of Muslims.

Posted by: zsasz at March 13, 2013 11:34 AM (wWb/B)

94 Radio is having this live and one fag commentator said 'He's a compassionate conservative, despite what mangling George Bush did to the meaning of that phrase' or something like that. Just can't have one fucking moment without a dig at Bush?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 13, 2013 11:34 AM (UU0OF)

95 When does he get his big hat?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2013 11:34 AM (UOM48)

96 Jesuits invented Social Justice.

Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2013 03:33 PM (Ai4/I)

That's what worries me. Then throw in the whole Latin America = commie aspect of it and... *sigh*

Hope for the best, though. He may surprise us all.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 13, 2013 11:34 AM (4df7R)

97 He's already talking about "latino immigrants to the US"?
wtf?

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2013 03:31 PM (2xMNt)

White hispanics.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 13, 2013 11:34 AM (AWmfW)

98 And his Wiki has already been updated with a better prÃ©cis than USA Today but, oddly enough, exactly matching Christiane Amanpour's report word-for-word. Strange that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Bergoglio

Posted by: andycanuck at March 13, 2013 11:34 AM (ORGYc)

99 I still thought it was supposed to be a black, transgendered "woman" from San Francisco to prove that the Catholic Church wasn't all anti-gay, bigoted and racist.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 13, 2013 11:34 AM (xmcEQ)

100 The name's Francis I, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you.

Posted by: Jorge Mario Bergoglio at March 13, 2013 11:34 AM (SO2Q8)

101 I look forward to the Pontiff excommunicating his fellow Argentinians when they next attack the Falklands, in violation of just war theory.

Posted by: R. at March 13, 2013 11:34 AM (+NgVx)

102 87 "Francis Xavier was never a Pope." How 'bout Charles? --- I'd make some Charles Xavier jokes inspired by The Boys, but someone would get butthurt about the molestation comments.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2013 11:34 AM (e0xKF)

103 97 He's already talking about "latino immigrants to the US"?

Maybe he wants them in Rome...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (9+ccr)

104 I was kinda hoping for Dolan seeing as obami dislikes him so much...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 13, 2013 03:33 PM (9+ccr)

At least this way Dolan can stay stateside and continue to be an active thorn in Obammy's side.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (4df7R)

105 Well I figured I have covered my bases as a Jew. I have a few Priests as patients and I have never charged them a dime.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (jE38p)

106 Social justice. Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (UOM48)

107 FromHotAir: But you can call him Pope Psycho. If any of you call him Pope Francis, heÂ’ll kill you. arik1969 on March 13, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Posted by: Joejm65 at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (UZuc4)

108 No but really Francis Xavier was the first the Jesuit to be pope.

Francis Xavier wasn't a pope. He co-founded the Jesuits

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (1Jaio)

109 I'm not worried. JPII and Benedict I pretty much hand-picked the folks who made the choosing, and I'm suspecting there wasn't much sympathy for leftism in those quarters (aside from the usual legit concern for the poor and downtrodden).

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (fMiHM)

110 Does not look thrilled to be there. If he was the candidate I gave the job to and his first official function he was this "sourpussy" I would have to go away believing that I made a big mistake.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (jucos)

111

All of us down at the Brattleboro WomanÂ’s Reproductive and Pregnancy Decision Center are disappointed with this pick. Why did they pick a person of non color when they should have picked a person of color from another country other then one in Europe. What part of Italy is the city of Argentina in anyway? Is it near Athens, London or something in northern Itally? What a stooped pick and again persons of color will endure more suffering because of this. Did Bush have something to do with this selection ?????

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (3lMGK)

112 If we see a Coexist sticker on the Popemobile, we'll know what he stands for.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (UOM48)

113 And, vapors aside, it wasn't saying Teh End of teh World!!1! it was saying end of Rome and the Roman Pontificate.

I think the end of the world was implied if you combine it with God's promise that the gates of hell would not prevail against His church. But I'm just going off of what I read on wikipedia.

Posted by: Methos at March 13, 2013 11:35 AM (hO9ad)

114 88 IS HE GAY??? Posted by: Low Info Voter at March 13, 2013 03:33 PM (Dwi+I) Well, he ain't married. What does that tell you?

Posted by: LIV 2 at March 13, 2013 11:36 AM (fWAjv)

115 I was kinda hoping for Dolan seeing as obami dislikes him so much... Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at March 13, 2013 03:33 PM (9+ccr) At least this way Dolan can stay stateside and continue to be an active thorn in Obammy's side. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 13, 2013 03:35 PM (4df7R) Yeah I was pulling for Dolan also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 11:36 AM (jE38p)

116 114 88 IS HE GAY??? Posted by: Low Info Voter at March 13, 2013 03:33 PM (Dwi+I) Well, he ain't married. What does that tell you? --- I LOL'ed.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2013 11:36 AM (e0xKF)

117 It's like The Stanley Cup. Benedict gets to carry it around for a year and show it to all his friends, drink beer from it and do all sorts of ugly things on it.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 13, 2013 11:36 AM (xmcEQ)

118 He's not SEC so it doesn't matter.

Posted by: toby928© Crypto-Fashionist at March 13, 2013 11:36 AM (QupBk)

119 I thought "Franciscum" was a Harry Potter spell.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 13, 2013 11:36 AM (qNGSj)

120 I'd make some Charles Xavier jokes inspired by The Boys, but someone would get butthurt about the molestation comments. I'd call an airstrike on you just for forcing me to remember that arc.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Whisperer at March 13, 2013 11:36 AM (fMiHM)

121 Does not look thrilled to be there. If he was the candidate I gave the job to and his first official function he was this "sourpussy" I would have to go away believing that I made a big mistake.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 13, 2013 03:35 PM (jucos)

Pretty sure that's the guy's natural expression. His hallmark, if you will.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 13, 2013 11:36 AM (4df7R)

122 Well, he ain't married. What does that tell you? Posted by: LIV 2 at March 13, 2013 03:36 PM (fWAjv) He is wise beyond his years

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 11:36 AM (jE38p)

123 Argrntina is like MEXico with WHITE people.

Posted by: elevenwing plover at March 13, 2013 11:37 AM (KXm42)

124 Just a couple of corrections: Francis Xavier was never a pope. The Latin for the English name "Francis" is Franciscus. The only time it would be "Franciscum" is in the accusative case, i.e., if it is the direct object of a verb or certain prepositions.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2013 11:37 AM (C8mVl)

125 What's the deal with "the gates of hell will not prevail" anyway? They opened for me just fine.

Posted by: Hugo Chavez at March 13, 2013 11:38 AM (QTHTd)

126 I'd call an airstrike on you just for forcing me to remember that arc. --- I thought the whole thing was good up until the end of The Seven. They should have just ended the book at that point, as Garth Ennis sucks at wrapping up his series. Look at Preacher for God's sake.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2013 11:38 AM (e0xKF)

127 I don't want to know just where Andrew S is going to go with "Franciscum", mixed with his personal toxic projection proclivities....

Posted by: West at March 13, 2013 11:38 AM (1Rgee)

128 The Latin for the English name "Francis" is Franciscus. The only time it would be "Franciscum" is in the accusative case, i.e., if it is the direct object of a verb or certain prepositions. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2013 03:37 PM (C8mVl) Shit I just has a flashback to high school latin

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 11:38 AM (jE38p)

129 The only time it would be "Franciscum" is in the accusative case, i.e., if it is the direct object of a verb or certain prepositions.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2013 03:37 PM (C8mVl)

*brain gerbils running frantically*

Erm.. uh... gabble...

Weasel?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 13, 2013 11:38 AM (4df7R)

130 In other completely unrelated news, I was just listening to a Modern Scholar series on the Crusades during the drive. Today's lecture--the Fifth Crusade. First time I had heard the name "Francis of Assisi" in years.

Posted by: R. at March 13, 2013 11:38 AM (+NgVx)

131 Jesuits at Georgetown are Arabists as well. Yay. Color me not very optimistic. This is a nod to demographics of the church.

Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2013 11:38 AM (Ai4/I)

132 So ... a social-con socialist.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 11:38 AM (ZPrif)

133 I thought it was Charles Xavier?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 13, 2013 11:38 AM (qNGSj)

134 On the bright side he's had run-ins with the commie woman president.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 13, 2013 11:38 AM (ORGYc)

135 Lost $20 betting on 'Pope Mel.'

Posted by: zsasz at March 13, 2013 11:39 AM (wWb/B)

136 So, the Cardinals covered all their bases. Got an old, non-european, european, who is also now the first Black Pope. If that's not proof the Holy Spirit has a sense of humor I don't know what is.

Posted by: Iblis at March 13, 2013 11:39 AM (9221z)

137 If he was the candidate I gave the job to and his first official function he was this "sourpussy" I would have to go away believing that I made a big mistake.
Posted by: Truck Monkey

They don't want to elect the guy who really, really wants to be Pope for obvious reasons.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 13, 2013 11:39 AM (/T+P8)

138 One is Latin, the official language of the Vatican. The other is the English transliteration, by way of French I imagine.

Posted by: Esau's Message at March 13, 2013 11:39 AM (WZq72)

139 in violation of just war theory Care to play Jeopardy for 1000? Name one 'just war' per the CC. I don't see Sean Bannion around so I doubt anyone here knows off the top of their head.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at March 13, 2013 11:39 AM (feFL6)

140 So far, so good. The Jesuit schools are the more liberal, but he seems to uphold church doctrine. I think social justice kinda lends itself to bleeding heart, emotion-based thinking. One of my parish priests is in Rome now doing a Masters in Canon law. So far, so good.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 13, 2013 11:39 AM (Sptt8)

141 Down goes Tagle! Down goes Tagle!

Posted by: Fritz at March 13, 2013 11:39 AM (WM+rJ)

142 I still thought it was supposed to be a black, transgendered "woman" from San Francisco to prove that the Catholic Church wasn't all anti-gay, bigoted and racist.

No, that'll be me.

Posted by: Ann T. Christ at March 13, 2013 11:40 AM (hO9ad)

143 WES WELKER is about to become a Denver Bronco!
It's gobfapping news people.

Posted by: Nigel Wanklin reporting at March 13, 2013 11:40 AM (JeBIy)

144

"Francis Xavier was never a Pope."
How 'bout Charles?

What about Rufus Xavier Sasparilla?

Posted by: Bigby's OK at March 13, 2013 11:40 AM (3ZtZW)

145

WES WELKER is about to become a Denver Bronco!

It's gobfapping news people.

Posted by: Nigel Wanklin reporting at March 13, 2013 03:40 PM (JeBIy)

Please don't. My heart can't take that pain.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 13, 2013 11:40 AM (4df7R)

146 Got my undergrad from a Jesuit university. I suddenly feel empowered.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 11:40 AM (l86i3)

147 WES WELKER is about to become a Denver Bronco! It's gobfapping news people. Posted by: Nigel Wanklin reporting at March 13, 2013 03:40 PM (JeBIy) WOW, that should knock the new Pope off the front page in Boston

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 11:41 AM (jE38p)

148 Shit I just has a flashback to high school latin

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 03:38 PM (jE38p)

Centurion: (takes paintbrush from Brian and paints over) "RO-MA-NI". "EUNT"? What is "EUNT"? Brian:"Go". Centurion: Conjugate the verb "to go"!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2013 11:41 AM (1Jaio)

149

"Care to play Jeopardy for 1000?"

Who was Vyasa?

Posted by: Jess1 at March 13, 2013 11:41 AM (lbiWb)

150 Cardinal Dolan is from a municipality which borders mine. Woulda been cool, but he's too fresh and untested. Maybe sometime in the future.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 13, 2013 11:41 AM (Sptt8)

151 WES WELKER is about to become a Denver Bronco!

By the end of the day, I expect Jason Whitlock to write a column about how John Elway and Peyton Manning are racists.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at March 13, 2013 11:41 AM (/kI1Q)

152 Ann T. Christ I laughed out loud.

Posted by: toby928© Crypto-Fashionist at March 13, 2013 11:41 AM (QupBk)

153 He is from a Spanish speaking country, but his name is Italian. Yes, I realize that many Italians settled in Argentina and southern Brazil during the latter 19th century and early 20th. My point is that both Hispanics and Italians can claim him as one of their own.

Posted by: Esau's Message at March 13, 2013 11:41 AM (WZq72)

154 Please don't. My heart can't take that pain. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 13, 2013 03:40 PM (4df7R) Meh, he's slow and white, good riddence.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 11:41 AM (l86i3)

155 So he's the last pope? Thought he was supposed to be named Peter? Well back to the History Channel.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 13, 2013 11:41 AM (NzBQO)

156 I got my undergrad from a Jesuit University as well. They do have a thirst for knowledge.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 13, 2013 11:42 AM (jucos)

157 Still think they should have gone with a black lesbian muslim tranny.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 11:42 AM (ZPrif)

158 Welker to Broncos? Save Us Francis!!!

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2013 11:42 AM (ZshNr)

159 They don't want to elect the guy who really, really wants to be Pope for obvious reasons.

That's what lost the Ghana guy this election, I suspect. He'd floated some comments to the media. I mean, besides his comments that only whites can be pedobears.

And it couldn't be Scola because mafia.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 13, 2013 11:42 AM (QTHTd)

160 Any of you homos touch my stuff, I'll kill ya.

Posted by: Pope Francis at March 13, 2013 11:42 AM (dSE0q)

161 Does this mean we can now get our communion wafers served with a side of salsa?

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 13, 2013 11:42 AM (tVWQB)

162 135 Lost $20 betting on 'Pope Mel --- I guess we don't get Mother Superior Sugartits then.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2013 11:42 AM (e0xKF)

163 146 Got my undergrad from a Jesuit university. I suddenly feel empowered.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 03:40 PM (l86i3)

So did my husband....St. Louis Univ.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 13, 2013 11:43 AM (X6akg)

164 Papa Francesco I

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 13, 2013 11:43 AM (qNGSj)

165 Frances Xavier was not a pope, he was one of the founders of the Jesuits. it could also be in reference to Francis of Assisi, who was a founder of the Fanciscians. But most likely a reference to the Jesuits, since he was a Jesuit.

Posted by: Dr. Mr. Badman at March 13, 2013 11:43 AM (D8pR3)

166 If this guy stays that serious all the time the "lighten up Francis" jokes will be endless

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 13, 2013 11:43 AM (yAor6)

167 'Pope Shemp'....maybe next time, sigh.

Posted by: zsasz at March 13, 2013 11:43 AM (wWb/B)

168 Elway to announce name change to "Denver Caucasians"

Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (Dll6b)

169

>>>>He is from a Spanish speaking country, but his name is Italian. Yes, I realize that many Italians settled in Argentina and southern Brazil during the latter 19th century and early 20th.

So you're saying he was part of Mussolini's Fascist youth corps?

/selling it to MSNBC now

Posted by: Bigby's OK at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (3ZtZW)

170 And it couldn't be Scola because mafia. --- Your Eminence, the note is signed "the Mafia".

Posted by: Archbishop Chong at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (e0xKF)

171 When does he get his big hat?
--------------------------
I think he gets that by FedEx when they deliver his "I Became The Pope And All I Got Was This Lousy T-shirt" t-shirts.

Posted by: sluggo at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (vVv3V)

172 Ooh, the Franciscans are going to be pissed.

Posted by: Iblis at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (9221z)

173

Pope Francis is actually anti-Marxist if he is indeed associated with Comunione e Liberazione.

It is a sin to lose hope, and mine is not lost that this will be a good choice.

Posted by: imp at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (UaxA0)

174 Nope. I was wrong.

The Francis is in honor of Francis of Assisi.

Posted by: Dr. Mr. Badman at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (D8pR3)

175 'Pope Shemp'....maybe next time, sigh. Posted by: zsasz at March 13, 2013 03:43 PM (wWb/B) I LOL'd.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (l86i3)

176 Oh hey, Fox just reported that the new Pope worked very hard with Ratzinger to stamp out communism. OK, I'm quite pleased.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (Sptt8)

177

If this guy stays that serious all the time the "lighten up Francis" jokes will be endless

Holy Shit! That's comedy gold!

*scribbles furiously*

Posted by: SNL at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (NF2Bf)

178 You mean I wasn't Elected Pope????

Posted by: Emperor Baraka ChoomChoom the Firstus at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (Jls4P)

179

"Frances Xavier was not a pope"

No sh****, really? (scrolls up the last two threads about 30 times...)

Posted by: Jess1 at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (lbiWb)

180 So who's going to the Casino with me tonight?

Posted by: Pope Emeritus Benedict at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (jE38p)

181 I like how a guy whiter than my Irish cousins is officially hispanic.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (ZPrif)

182
Soooooooooooooooooooooo is Â“lighten up FrancisÂ” now officially Â“phraseology non grataÂ”?

Posted by: Katfish at March 13, 2013 11:44 AM (Nx5wc)

183 The Catholic Left opposed Communism on the whole atheism issue, not the socialism issue.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 11:45 AM (ZPrif)

184 The Latin form of Francis is Franciscus (masc. ending), not Franciscum (neut. ending)

Posted by: gail at March 13, 2013 11:46 AM (UvGrJ)

185 OK so what's next

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 11:46 AM (jE38p)

186

"It is a sin to lose hope"

Well, there goes the Moron Horde..

Posted by: Jess1 at March 13, 2013 11:46 AM (lbiWb)

187 161 Does this mean we can now get our communion wafers served with a side of salsa?

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 13, 2013 03:42 PM (tVWQB

lol

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2013 11:46 AM (UOM48)

188 I think Madonna should make a song about this. Like how the pope shouldn't preach to her. and then prance around in her under garments.

Posted by: The ghost of 1986 at March 13, 2013 11:46 AM (qxcKC)

189 It's proof!! Gonzaga will win the championship this year!!

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 13, 2013 11:46 AM (NzBQO)

190

The Boston Globe's Greg A. Bedard reports free agent Wes Welker is "very likely" to sign with the Broncos.

The report comes via a league source. It's either the biggest move of free agency, or one of the most daring leverage plays in recent memory. If it goes down, it would certainly flip the balance of power from the Patriots to the Broncos at the (tip) top of the AFC. For all the talk of Welker being a "system player," there's no way the Pats could adequately replace him for 2013, even if they signed Welker's mini-me Danny Amendola. That is not to suggest the Pats would suddenly drop from the top tier of the conference they've dominated for over a decade.

Posted by: Nigel Wanklin reporting at March 13, 2013 11:46 AM (AogGt)

191 Good. Delighted to be wrong.

Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2013 11:47 AM (Ai4/I)

192 The Catholic Left opposed Communism on the whole atheism issue, not the socialism issue. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 03:45 PM (ZPrif) Yep, I wonder when we get the first big Social Justice speech.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 11:47 AM (l86i3)

193 relaxe teipse, Francisce.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 13, 2013 11:47 AM (QTHTd)

194

180So who's going to the Casino with me tonight?

---

No thanks

It's bingo night at the Vatican

Posted by: Jorge Mario Bergoglio at March 13, 2013 11:47 AM (SO2Q8)

195 Your Eminence, the note is signed ~~"the Mafia"~~ la Cosa Nostra.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2013 11:47 AM (GFM2b)

196 According to wiki he is anti-liberation theology. FWIW JP2 hated liberation theology and probably wouldnt have elevated a proponent of it to cardinal. Also, he pisses off the leftist bitch president down there so thats a good sign to me

Posted by: BSR at March 13, 2013 11:48 AM (CBCxo)

197 Tami, your husband would most likely freak on what's going on now at St. Louis U. My sister educates the students, one at a time, when they call her for donations.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 13, 2013 11:48 AM (Sptt8)

198 It is a sin to lose hope

I'll buy that if you can explain it without contradicting the spirit of "Thou shalt not bear false witness."

Posted by: Methos at March 13, 2013 11:48 AM (hO9ad)

199 My first thought when I heard the Bishop announce the new Pope's reign name was that they'd elected a Franciscan. Which led to one of those "?!!!?!" moments. I really didn't even think about any other order.

Posted by: Dianna at March 13, 2013 11:48 AM (DV/Ik)

200 Yep, I wonder when we get the first big Social Justice speech.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 03:47 PM (l86i3)

It was called Caritas in Veritate by Benedict XVI.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 13, 2013 11:48 AM (nZvGM)

201 He looks like Jonathan Pryce.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 13, 2013 11:49 AM (qNGSj)

202

Pope Francis?

Finally a female pope!!!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein of battleboro VT at March 13, 2013 11:49 AM (SO2Q8)

203 I still smell sulfur.

Posted by: Hugo Chavez at March 13, 2013 03:18 PM (YOZSv)

Get used to it my new friend

Posted by: Antonio Gramsci at March 13, 2013 11:49 AM (z9hf8)

204 Also, he pisses off the leftist bitch president down there so thats a good sign to me Posted by: BSR at March 13, 2013 03:48 PM (CBCxo) That's good to know. I hope he frys JEF like Dr. Carson did.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 11:49 AM (l86i3)

205 Tami, your husband would most likely freak on what's going on now at St. Louis U. My sister educates the students, one at a time, when they call her for donations.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at March 13, 2013 03:48 PM (Sptt

Yeah, I'm sure he would. He doesn't donate.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 13, 2013 11:50 AM (X6akg)

206 he only time it would be "Franciscum" is in the accusative case, i.e., if it is the direct object of a verb or certain prepositions.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2013 03:37 PM (C8mVl)

Declination, people. Declination!

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 13, 2013 11:50 AM (XUKZU)

207

"phraseology non grata"

Is that Latin for "joke beaten to f****g glue"?

Posted by: Jess1 at March 13, 2013 11:50 AM (lbiWb)

208 "Modern" Jesuits hardest hit.

Pope Francis was an "old-school" Jesuit. That would be not in the tradition of Georgetown or the countless other Jesuit colleges that now seem to demean, belittle and distance themselves from their conservative Jesuits traditions- in the name of appealing to a more diverse groups of attendees who don't seem to be Catholic at all. But pay tuition.

By the way, is it just me or wasn't the appeal and bona fides based on a true Jesuit tradition. That would be minus the "oh, well our faith? Pfft, we are all one big, happy agnostic family here", which modern Jesuits seem to prefer.

Trust me, I took the tours at several allegedly "Jesuit" colleges with a family member. There script included a very long dissertation on how they were Jesuit in tradition, but not really Catholic or religious at all. I was like- huh? Sophism and equivocation is not the philosophy you want to start your post secondary education with. Goodbye.

Posted by: Marcus at March 13, 2013 11:50 AM (BjLRl)

209 Dennis Miller: "Hope the new Pope works as hard off the ball as Manu Ginobli."

Posted by: sluggo at March 13, 2013 11:50 AM (vVv3V)

210 Could he maybe do something about Father Pfleger-Maybe squash him like a bug?

Posted by: ejo at March 13, 2013 11:50 AM (GXvSO)

211

188I think Madonna should make a song about this. Like how the pope shouldn't preach to her. and then prance around in her under <s>garments </S> Adult Diapers

----

FIFY

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 13, 2013 11:50 AM (SO2Q8)

212 He looks like Jonathan Pryce. Better than looking like Vincent Price.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2013 11:50 AM (GFM2b)

213 181 I like how a guy whiter than my Irish cousins is officially hispanic. --- I went to HS with two kids that had Hispanic-sounding last names but were whiter than Wonder Bread. One of them ended up being named some kind of "Hispanic scholar", too.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2013 11:51 AM (e0xKF)

214 181---" I like how a guy whiter than my Irish cousins is officially hispanic." Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 03:44 PM (ZPrif) ---------------- It's an utterly ridiculous classification. Has NOTHING to do with race. Argentina is more Caucasian/European than the UK, not to mention the US. We're in the Liawathan level of unreality when we talk about "Hispanics."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2013 11:51 AM (C8mVl)

215 The woman yapping right now seems depressed (she is a professor somewhere and had previously been enthusiastic about "bridging" the church in this time or something. Am watching the live link. She sounded deflated. Good thing?

I do not want a bridge, I want the Word of God followed, and I am a conservative Protestant who is very interested in this Pope.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky does not give a hoot in hell for Democraps at March 13, 2013 11:51 AM (baL2B)

216 Yah, his name is not Peter!

Posted by: gonzotx at March 13, 2013 11:51 AM (4CQjf)

217 ~~testing~~

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 13, 2013 11:52 AM (SO2Q8)

218 Yep, I wonder when we get the first big Social Justice speech.

That would be the end of my curiostity. I've no interest in marxism with a thin coat of scriptural lacquer.

Posted by: Methos at March 13, 2013 11:52 AM (hO9ad)

219

"the only time it would be "Franciscum" is in the accusative case"

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2013 03:37 PM (C8mVl)

So every MSM reference will be Franciscum?

Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 13, 2013 11:52 AM (nZvGM)

220 Ok, she is Professor Jo Formacola from Seton Hall...she did seem to be a tad liberal earlier (to me...have no idea).

Posted by: ChristyBlinky does not give a hoot in hell for Democraps at March 13, 2013 11:52 AM (baL2B)

221 Could he maybe do something about Father Pfleger-Maybe squash him like a bug?

Posted by: ejo at March 13, 2013 03:50 PM (GXvSO)

Please oh please

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2013 11:53 AM (1Jaio)

222 I went to HS with two kids that had Hispanic-sounding last names but were whiter than Wonder Bread. One of them ended up being named some kind of "Hispanic scholar", too. You went to school with George Zimmerman?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2013 11:53 AM (GFM2b)

223 216 Yah, his name is not Peter!

Posted by: gonzotx at March 13, 2013 03:51 PM (4CQjf)

Yes: a relief that the world is (maybe) not ending with him. However, come 2016 to replace the preznitwit if a Dem is elected I may not feel this optimistic.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky does not give a hoot in hell for Democraps at March 13, 2013 11:54 AM (baL2B)

224 We're in the Liawathan level of unreality when we talk about "Hispanics." --- I'm wondering if that crap will still be around when my younger daughter hits college. She may get a leg up if it does because she's considered Hispanic because of her birth father's heritage and her skin tone.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2013 11:54 AM (e0xKF)

225 219 "the only time it would be "Franciscum" is in the accusative case"Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2013 03:37 PM (C8mVl) So every MSM reference will be Franciscum? Posted by: somebody else, not me at March 13, 2013 03:52 PM (nZvGM) ------------- Good one!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2013 11:54 AM (C8mVl)

226
did filly figure out ace's sullivan link yet?

btw, he didn't say anything about US immigrants.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 13, 2013 11:55 AM (SXIWf)

227 I have friends whose parents are Italian immigrants. These friends all have relatives in Argentina. During WWII, many immigrants from Italy were not allowed into the U.S., so many of them went to Argentina instead.

Posted by: Joejm65 at March 13, 2013 11:55 AM (UZuc4)

228 202
Pope Francis?
Finally a female pope!!!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein of battleboro VT at March 13, 2013 03:49 PM (SO2Q

I love the moron who is Mary.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky does not give a hoot in hell for Democraps at March 13, 2013 11:56 AM (baL2B)

229 Also "critics say" he didn't do enough to speak up against the military dictators during the "dirty war" in the 70s. Also a good sign to me since the dirty war was the military vs. marxist revolutionaries.

Posted by: BSR at March 13, 2013 11:56 AM (CBCxo)

230 My Portuguese wife is fair enough to pass as Irish, and she's considered hispanic now too.

Posted by: Iblis at March 13, 2013 11:56 AM (9221z)

231 @28, no. The Marines of the Catholic Church are the Maryknollers. As part of the seminary work, they learn how to build roads, among other things, since they serve in primitive locations. My late husband went to the Maryknoll seminary when he was 13 (but quit when the hormones kicked in.) My father-in-law, a Navy lifer, visited him while he was in the seminary. He said it was tougher training than his boot camp.

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 13, 2013 11:57 AM (5HBd1)

232 He is a wise latina

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 13, 2013 11:57 AM (qNGSj)

233 All the pundits seem shocked. I hope Pope Francis is the most conservative pope ever.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky does not give a hoot in hell for Democraps at March 13, 2013 11:57 AM (baL2B)

234 231 My Portuguese wife is fair enough to pass as Irish, and she's considered hispanic now too.
Posted by: Iblis

Since many Portuguese are of celtic descent, it's not a big surprise she could pass as Irish.

Posted by: Dianna at March 13, 2013 11:57 AM (DV/Ik)

235
He said in his comments it will be a continuation of Pope Benedict's papacy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 13, 2013 11:58 AM (SXIWf)

236 I read this reassuring post over at the Corner:

---
"People who worry that, as a Jesuit, he might be too liberal, should relax: A very conservative Jesuit priest of my acquaintance, who is unhappy with the liberal direction of his order, has been telling me for weeks that he supports Bergoglio for pope"

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 13, 2013 11:58 AM (UypUQ)

237 230 Also "critics say" he didn't do enough to speak up against the military dictators during the "dirty war" in the 70s. Also a good sign to me since the dirty war was the military vs. marxist revolutionaries. --- If I were the faculty at Georgetown, I'd avoid riding on a Papal charter plane referred to as "Condor".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 13, 2013 11:58 AM (e0xKF)

238 Considering Pope Francis' age, he is one of those who survived the Peronista cult of personality. And witnessed what the Perons did to the country. So he is probably as cranky pants with Socialists as Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2013 11:59 AM (bDDEv)

239 I don't think you should make broad assumptions about Pope Francis I based on is heritage and period in which he lived.

Read his complete biography. Anyone thinking he is going to be your "social justice" Pope, that is, outside conservative Catholic tradition leaning towards Marxism, is going to be severely disappointed.

Posted by: Marcus at March 13, 2013 11:59 AM (BjLRl)

240 He wants to be known as psycho or el conquistador

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2013 11:59 AM (Uo6iI)

241 Jesuits are smart and conservative. But who knows.

Not what I was taught...but, I was taught by Franciscans!

Posted by: Paladin at March 13, 2013 11:59 AM (bxc5w)

242 I like how pure blood Spaniards and Portuguese get Affirmative Action in America. We must help them due to the historic discrimination that Conquistador-Americans have suffered.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 12:00 PM (ZPrif)

243 So he is probably as cranky pants with Socialists as Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2013 03:59 PM (bDDEv)

Let us pray.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky does not give a hoot in hell for Democraps at March 13, 2013 12:00 PM (baL2B)

244 Making Conquistador-Americans an official victim class is like making all Southerners honorary blacks. Slavery was in the South. And it's too much of hassle to track down who was a slave and who was a slave-owner. So let's just give a Diversity boost to anybody from the South.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 12:01 PM (ZPrif)

245 #207 - Hey I laughed (no one else's laugh required)

Posted by: Katfish at March 13, 2013 12:02 PM (Nx5wc)

246 22 They will not have lady priests before they have married priests. But we have married priests in the Roman church.

Posted by: Fox 2! at March 13, 2013 12:03 PM (+N4be)

247 Since many Portuguese are of celtic descent

Indeed. "Portugal" is "Portugal" because it's that part of old Galicia which starts around Porto and continues south. And it's called Galicia because they still spoke Gaulish up there until, what, 500 AD?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 13, 2013 12:03 PM (QTHTd)

248 I could be wrong but I think Jesuits are only wacky lefties here, I dont think that applies in the rest of the world

Posted by: BSR at March 13, 2013 12:03 PM (CBCxo)

249 Could he maybe do something about Father Pfleger-Maybe squash him like a bug? I'll bet he has touched more pre-pubescent dicks than a 60 year old Pediatrician.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 12:04 PM (l86i3)

250 When I was a kid one of my teacher's used to say "we're God's marines"

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 13, 2013 12:04 PM (/b8+5)

251 #248 - boulder toilet hobo - I'd have to look up the date, but, pretty much, yes.

Posted by: Dianna at March 13, 2013 12:05 PM (DV/Ik)

252

FWIW, Clarence Thomas is a product of Jesuit-influenced schools. The Jesuits no longer run the parochial schools in Georgia, but they were EXTREMELY instrumental in establishing Catholic education in the Deep South (or in Georgia at the very least). That influence is still quite pervasive today. A lot of the parish churches in the South were also established by the Jesuits as well.

Posted by: lace whig at March 13, 2013 12:05 PM (+OP3J)

253 If anybody goes near his stuff, he'll kill 'em. If any of you 'homos' talk to him, he'll kill you.

Posted by: Pope on a Rope at March 13, 2013 12:05 PM (nBccM)

254 Were jesuits under or over-represented among the gay statutory rape problem the church had (the media called it child molestation, but it was almost entirely gay priests seducing confused teenage boys)?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 12:06 PM (ZPrif)

255 Posted by: lace whig at March 13, 2013 04:05 PM (+OP3J) IN THE FKN BARREL, NOW.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 12:06 PM (l86i3)

256 Argh! Sorry about the lousy formatting. Mea maxima culpa.

Posted by: lace whig at March 13, 2013 12:06 PM (+OP3J)

257 *rolls the barrel over to lace whig*

There, saved you the bother.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 13, 2013 12:06 PM (QTHTd)

258 Any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.

Posted by: Pope Psycho I at March 13, 2013 12:07 PM (Bb3sc)

259 But we have married priests in the Roman church. Posted by: Fox 2!

Usually, they are Episcopalians who converted. I don't quite understand it (they are allowed both to be a priest and remain married), but it's true.

If you read Gregory of Tours, you will find stories of bishops who were married; sometimes their wives took strong exception to the whole "celibacy" thing.

Posted by: Dianna at March 13, 2013 12:07 PM (DV/Ik)

260 >>>Argh! Sorry about the lousy formatting. Mea maxima culpa.

Say that again inside the barrel, and you had better be mumbling it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 13, 2013 12:07 PM (0q2P7)

261 I know, I know. I'm so sorry. That's one of the main reasons why I never post. I always manage to louse up the formatting.

Posted by: lace whig at March 13, 2013 12:08 PM (+OP3J)

262 OSP, Pfleger should be locked away in a desert monastery like the one in the Sinai. In fact start a whole new monastery somewhere remote like a small island in the Falklands for Pfleger and his fellow travelers. And forget they are there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2013 12:08 PM (bDDEv)

263 Argentine is pretty darn far from Rome, but New Zealand would be the farthest.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 13, 2013 12:08 PM (UypUQ)

264 So Dementia Andi is "hopeful" about the fact that Pope Francis is a Jesuit.

That's not the reassuring freakout I was hoping for.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at March 13, 2013 12:08 PM (H84UO)

265 Stupid sock puppets...

Posted by: Kensington at March 13, 2013 12:09 PM (H84UO)

266 OSP, Pfleger should be locked away in a desert monastery like the one in the Sinai. In fact start a whole new monastery somewhere remote like a small island in the Falklands for Pfleger and his fellow travelers. And forget they are there. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2013 04:08 PM (bDDEv) He's a real POS, funny he's in Chicago.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 12:09 PM (l86i3)

267 Does the formatting get screwed up when somebody does a copy and paste? Never understood how that even happens.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 12:09 PM (ZPrif)

268 Unfortunately for humortists, not a lot to work with having an Argentinian nationality. The Canadian Pope would have been comedy gold. *sigh*

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 13, 2013 12:09 PM (UypUQ)

269 @ 261 I would, but I'd only louse it up. I'm quietly cursing to myself, if that makes any difference.

Posted by: lace whig at March 13, 2013 12:10 PM (+OP3J)

270 Does the formatting get screwed up when somebody does a copy and paste? Never understood how that even happens. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 04:09 PM (ZPrif) If you all would just buy a Mac, no issues.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 12:10 PM (l86i3)

271 OSP crossbow Mac or longbow Mac?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2013 12:10 PM (bDDEv)

272 268 Does the formatting get screwed up when somebody does a copy and paste? Never understood how that even happens.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 04:09 PM (ZPrif)

You can't copy and paste from Word....only Notepad.

Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 13, 2013 12:10 PM (X6akg)

273 Does the formatting get screwed up when somebody does a copy and paste? Never understood how that even happens.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 04:09 PM (ZPrif)

The more modern browsers copy over the underlining markup as well as the raw text. Annoys the piss out of me being a web developer.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 13, 2013 12:10 PM (UypUQ)

274 >>>In fact start a whole new monastery somewhere remote

Amundsen would be a nice quiet place for a contemplative order.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 13, 2013 12:11 PM (0q2P7)

275 Go bust some head, Holy Father!

Posted by: Y-not has pope hope at March 13, 2013 12:11 PM (5H6zj)

276 OSP crossbow Mac or longbow Mac? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2013 04:10 PM (bDDEv) I aint particalar.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 12:11 PM (l86i3)

277 On a pure #s basis I'm somewhat surprised the Church doesn't go for a Chinese, Indian, or black African Pope.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 12:11 PM (ZPrif)

278 On a pure #s basis I'm somewhat surprised the Church doesn't go for a Chinese, Indian, or black African Pope. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2013 04:11 PM (ZPrif) Oh it's numbers alright. Numbers of $$$$$$$$$

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at March 13, 2013 12:12 PM (l86i3)

279
>>>If you all would just buy a Mac, no issues.

If pixy had spent 5 minutes disabling the now dysfunctional java applet that allows for embedded codes we would not only stop having this problem, we would get our ampersands back.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 13, 2013 12:13 PM (0q2P7)

280 Well the Church avoided one controversy.. if they had selected a Pope from Ghana, the MSM would have been in auto attack mode over him not being 'black' enough....

MSM delenda est.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2013 12:13 PM (bDDEv)

281 I think he chose Francis for St. Francis of Assisi and for St. Francis Xavier. St. Francis of assisi has the legend of having Christ ask him from the cross to rebuild his church. St. Francis Xavier was not only the first Jesuit Missionary but his mission was in India, China, places others would not think to go. Xavier was canonized by Paul V. Assisi was canonized by Gregory IX. Both these men were missionaries.

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 13, 2013 12:14 PM (/b8+5)

282 Haven't read the comments but Pope Francis' comments on SSM (which passed in Argentina) were good (ie: Catholic). Also he sounds much more humble than the typical Jesuit, which is good. I think Andi Sullivan is deluding himself.

Posted by: Y-not has pope hope at March 13, 2013 12:14 PM (5H6zj)

283 I have friends whose parents are Italian immigrants. These friends all have relatives in Argentina. During WWII, many immigrants from Italy were not allowed into the U.S., so many of them went to Argentina instead.

Posted by: Joejm65 at March 13, 2013 03:55 PM (UZuc4)

A lot of truth there.

Posted by: Berserker at March 13, 2013 12:15 PM (FMbng)

284 @ 268

I copy and pasted what I typed up from Word & that's what happened. I won't be doing that again. I did hit the tip jar to make up for it, though.

Posted by: lace whig at March 13, 2013 12:15 PM (+OP3J)

285 My first impression was he must be liberal because he is a Jesuit - I went to 8 years of Jesuit schoolling (HS, College) and I can give pleanty of anecdotal evidence to back up the "Jesuits are liberal" mindset. Jesuits are certainly "more tolerant" (aka liberal) in the US. This Jesuit from Argentina was appointed cardinal by John Paul II and my second impression is there is no way a liberal Jesuit gets appointed Cardinal so I theorize he was appointed by John Paul II to effect change in the Jesuit liberal leanings. One saying in my neighborhood was "Go to public school lose your morals, go to Jesuit lose your faith" but my Catholic faith is stronger than ever so do not agree with this saying, but I throw it out there to show the mindset in the US at the Catholic parochial school level about a Jesuit higher education. That being said, I cannot imagine the teachings of 2000 years and the works since 1978 buy JP II and Benedict the 16th will be reversed. I however will have to wait and see and pray.

Posted by: Mac Gootbone at March 13, 2013 12:15 PM (XCSw/)

286 Well one conspiracy nutter I follow on FB is not pleased by this selection. She is screaming and spewing wrong turn and wrong choice. Did I mention she also lives in NYC and only seems to date cheaters and free-loaders.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2013 12:17 PM (bDDEv)

287 >>>1978 buy JP II and Benedict the 16th will be reversed. I however will have to wait and see and pray.

Humanae Vitae by Pope Paul VI. That is the target #1 for liberals. That is the hill we need to defend.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at March 13, 2013 12:17 PM (0q2P7)

288 I love the fact that the media doesn't know what to make of it. they want it to be one St. Francis. They want to know if he'll be a reformer. It's great to watch, the are a mess.

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 13, 2013 12:18 PM (/b8+5)

289 I'm being told that he's not a Curia insider. Win for Catholics everywhere!

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 13, 2013 12:19 PM (/b8+5)

290 So, does this mean that we're spared the Judging that's talked about in St. Malachy's Prophesy of the Popes? Seems like they did everything to make sure that this guy was in no way able to fit into that criteria.

/wow, first the Mayans disappoint, then the Catholics. I guess there is always SMOD.

Posted by: shibumi at March 13, 2013 12:20 PM (z63Tr)

291 I will not let you down.

Posted by: SMOD at March 13, 2013 12:23 PM (nZvGM)

292 Huh, as a youth Pope Francis had a lung infection so one whole lung was removed.

http://tinyurl.com/cufkh36

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2013 12:23 PM (bDDEv)

293 I predict Gonzaga for the NCAA title! Go Jesuits!

Posted by: Derak at March 13, 2013 12:26 PM (lkjWK)

294 Jesuit education is traditionally very rigorous academically and spiritually. There are the Kumbaya throwbacks that are still stuck in the 70s, but I don't think the new pope subscribes to that philosophy. This is a good thing.

Posted by: lace whig at March 13, 2013 12:26 PM (+OP3J)

295 Francis I is Trig's father.

Posted by: Andy Gobslobbering Sullivan at March 13, 2013 12:28 PM (NG7MG)

296 Long article on Pope Francis here: http://tinyurl.com/bqfluvy

Posted by: Tami[/i] at March 13, 2013 12:29 PM (X6akg)

297 Did the Vatican say he took the name Francis to honor the Jesuit co-founder? He certainly might have done that, but it seems to me that he might also be alluding to St. Francis of Assisi who is famous for his commitment to the poor.

Posted by: DRJ at March 13, 2013 12:33 PM (iqHi+)

298 His church had no say when the Argentine Supreme Court expanded access to legal abortions in rape cases, and when Bergoglio argued that gay adoptions discriminate against children, Fernandez compared his tone to Â“medieval times and the Inquisition."
Washington Times

Fernandez is Argentina's version of Moochelle.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky does not give a hoot in hell for Democraps at March 13, 2013 12:34 PM (baL2B)

299

269 Unfortunately for humortists, not a lot to work with having an Argentinian nationality. The Canadian Pope would have been comedy gold.

---------

I dunno. I'm hoping for plenty of "Frankie goes to the Vatican" jokes, myself.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at March 13, 2013 12:38 PM (xGZ+b)

300 Catholic Online says "Bergoglio is an accomplished theologian who distanced himself from liberation theology early in his career."

Posted by: DRJ at March 13, 2013 12:38 PM (iqHi+)

301 I dont think its Assisi or Xavier. My money is on this guy...the Patron Saint of Argentina http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Solanus

Posted by: BSR at March 13, 2013 12:38 PM (CBCxo)

302 My hyperlink to Catholic Online didn't work. Here it is the old-fashioned way: www.catholic.org/hf/faith/story.php?id=50111

Posted by: DRJ at March 13, 2013 12:38 PM (iqHi+)

303 All's I know is, I finally get to excommunicate somebody.

Posted by: Pope Psycho I at March 13, 2013 12:41 PM (Bb3sc)

304 I prayed so fervently that the new Pope not be a curia insider. He's not. Thank you God for answering my prayers.

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 13, 2013 12:44 PM (/b8+5)

305 LIGHTEN UP ... FRancis

Posted by: Evilpens at March 13, 2013 12:44 PM (O45gy)

306 "Benny's got all the dominos".

Go frisk'im"

"Ursa Major"

"Squaemous epithelium"

Posted by: Old Catholics might get it at March 13, 2013 12:50 PM (WGOcs)

307 I don't know dick about this Catholicism stuff. Is this the first Pope from what they would have called "The New World" back around 1600 or so?

Posted by: akula51 at March 13, 2013 12:52 PM (Vgn84)

308 Psycho: The name's Francis, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you.

Leon: Ooooooh.

Psycho: You just made the list, buddy. And I don't like nobody touching my stuff. So just keep your meat-hooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. Also, I don't like nobody touching me. Now, any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.

Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: John Winger at March 13, 2013 12:58 PM (e8kgV)

309

Also, I don't like nobody touching me. Now, any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.

that there is funny, especially since this pope will need tocontinue to heal the church from the sex abuse scandals of the past

Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2013 01:01 PM (Dnbau)

310 Yes they are saying this on fb, he's the first Pope from the new world.

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 13, 2013 01:01 PM (/b8+5)

311 It seems, with most Christian religions embracing change (woman priests, gay marriage, heck, even contraception/abortion,) the only real change would be not to follow this direction. If the Catholic church follows the path of the other Christian Protestant churches, not only do the hardcore Catholics who go to church every Sunday rethink this commitment but I also guarantee the liberal non-church going brethren do not take our place in the pews every week either. I may be wrong, I'm wrong alot..

Posted by: Mac Gootbone at March 13, 2013 01:03 PM (wA0Xb)

312 "HABEMVS PAPAM FRANCISCUM" http://www.vatican.va/

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 13, 2013 01:05 PM (/b8+5)

313 Ratzinger was a good knucklehead pope, what with the Opus Dei and Hitler youth background. The new guy seems to have dabbled in liberation theology.

Posted by: andrew breitbart at March 13, 2013 01:25 PM (XHvin)

314 Pax vobiscum, san francisum...

Posted by: Pope Billy Bob Jack III at March 13, 2013 01:31 PM (PMGbu)

315 Fantastic that they chose a South American Jesuit! This guarantees that the new pope will be both more socialist and socially liberal than the average BHO cabinet member. Apparently there is a movement in the ranks of the Cardinals to drive every traditional Catholic to either: Coptic Christian, Greek Orthodox, or perhaps ANY Christian church that isn't named "Catholic". I thought that I had seen it all when the last Pope released the paper last fall telling me that I didn't have a right to defend myself and that I should implicitly trust my government to protect & defend my family. I guess it's time to learn Greek so I can understand the mass at St Olav's.

Posted by: Zhytamyr at March 13, 2013 01:44 PM (91nzM)

316 So many great LOLs in these comments.

Props to the "So he's a Stripes fan" line!

Posted by: Vlad the Impala at March 13, 2013 01:50 PM (m02pB)

317 FRANCISCUS 13 March 2013 Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum; habemus Papam: Eminentissimum ac Reverendissimum Dominum, Dominum Georgium Marium Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae Cardinalem Bergoglio qui sibi nomen imposuit Franciscum

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 13, 2013 01:55 PM (/b8+5)

318 You wouldn't want a Canadian pope. The politically correct stuff is pretty universal there. But he'd know what -40 degrees means. He might even know Mark Steyn.

Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at March 13, 2013 02:11 PM (TypQ3)

319 I don't know which is correct, or if Franciscum is formal and "Francis" is informal.

A little Latin lesson for Ace and Gateway Pundit: Franciscum is the accusative case (direct object) of the Latin name Franciscus. Franciscus is simply the Latin form of the English name Francis. The new pope's name appears in the accusative form Franciscum in the Vatican announcement because it is the direct object of the past tense of the verb imponere, which means (in this case) "assign" or "give."

I see a few other posters have noted this issue but a little extra pedantry never hurts, particularly on a smart military blog.

Posted by: Basement Cat at March 13, 2013 02:14 PM (lYLaO)

320 I understand these are the man's words, regarding things Argentina, a historical dictatorship with ties to fascist Italy and Germany, once did-- "We come to pray for all who have fallen, sons of the Homeland who went out to defend their mother, the Homeland, and to reclaim what is theirs, that is of the Homeland, and it was usurped . . ." Let's grant--for sake of argument only--that Britain did something dastardly wrong in 1833--I don't think the facts support that, but let's say so. Then this jackass needs to understand that people in one time don't pay for sins of another, and that we in the world need to be done with territorial conquest. You don't right wrongs (or in this case, imagined wrongs) from one era by committing wrongs in this present one. If Britain did anything wrong, then if there is a heaven then them that done it receieved theirs a long time ago. As will any who did anything untoward during Argentina's troubled times. But, you know....*If*we are going to put no time limit on crimes of the past....then why might I not wish to arm indigenous Americans to go after Jesuits, should the desire exist? The "Black Legend", and all, you know.

Posted by: R. at March 13, 2013 02:18 PM (+NgVx)

321 I'd also like to know--since the new Pontiff cares about usurping so much--exactly what he is going to tell his parishoners who cannot stop flowing illegally into my country? Especially as I understand he starts addresses off in Spanish. Anything? Anything at all? Or am I expected to start speaking that as well, at the same time as I give citizenship to the usurper, just as Falkanders must abandon all they know for a country with an unfirm grasp on the concept of rule by law? Hack. They elected a hack.

Posted by: R. at March 13, 2013 02:42 PM (+NgVx)

322

"Especially as I understand he starts addresses off in Spanish"

Since he was the Cardinal of Buenos Aires until just a few hours ago, uh, yeah, I expect he usually started addresses off in Spanish. Should he have spoken English to them?

You're a numbskull. Perhaps you should try learning to write English.

Posted by: Donna V. at March 13, 2013 03:17 PM (7FqJH)

323 The new guy seems to have dabbled in liberation theology.

Posted by: andrew breitbart at March 13, 2013 05:25 PM (XHvin)

And you've more than dabbled in paint sniffing and molesting dogs

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2013 03:20 PM (SywvM)

324 "ITEM #1. Argentine Official congratulates Cardinal for AIDS Mass BUENOS AIRES, Apr. 17, 01 (CWNews.com) - The Argentine Minister of Health, Hector Lombardo, described decision by Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires to spend the Holy Thursday at an AIDS hospital as "a significant signal." Cardinal Bergoglio arrived on Holy Thursday at the Francisco Muniz Hospital for Infectious Diseases where he washed and kissed the feet of 12 AIDS patient. The Mass was attended by patients, nurses, doctors, volunteers, and relatives. "I come, following the footprints of our only Master, Our Lord Jesus Christ, to express the Church's closeness to those who must suffer pain and discrimination," the cardinal said. "Cardinal Bergoglio's will to express in such an eloquent way his solidarity with AIDS victims is a courageous decision and a significant signal that brings hope to those who work in the attention of AIDS victims," said Lombardo. After the Mass, Cardinal Bergoglio and the hospital chaplain, Father Andres Tello Cornejo, brought the Eucharist to patients unable to attend the ceremony. Since he was appointed Archbishop of Buenos Aires in 1998, Bergoglio has changed the tradition of celebrating the Mass of the Lord's Supper in the cathedral. He visited this same hospital three years ago; last year, he visited the prison facility of Villa Devoto; and in 1999 he visited the Saint Joseph Refuge for the Homeless in Buenos Aires." http://tinyurl.com/cejd8ar " And the King will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so far as you did this to one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did it to me." http://tinyurl.com/d3xhgca

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 13, 2013 04:21 PM (/b8+5)

325 Ah, but Snarky the Bear, he's against gay marriage, so they'll still call him a homophobe.

Posted by: Donna V. at March 13, 2013 04:51 PM (7FqJH)

326 Pierce making complete ass of himself on CNN now. Interviewing Newt with Van Jones to start in ...

Posted by: Californio at March 13, 2013 05:49 PM (2eIwi)

327 326 Ah, but Snarky the Bear, he's against gay marriage, so they'll still call him a homophobe. Posted by: Donna V. at March 13, 2013 08:51 PM (7FqJH) Everything I'm reading about him and the gay community is positive. I think those who are gay will have the ear of this Pope. He was a chemist. He understands science. All the Jesuits I know are brilliant in some way. He seems most comfortable with those on the fringes of our societies. Who knows he might have some unique perspectives on things which are doctrinal which we've come to almost take for granted. He might be able to explain them in a way for people to understand them better. It's funny, the gays I know for the most part aren't pro gay marriage and they continue to go to the Catholic church. They are sort of just quietly living their lives like everyone else and their sexuality is just a small part of the whole.

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 13, 2013 06:49 PM (/b8+5)

328 >>>How many Divisions does the Pope have? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2013 03:27 PM (jE38p) Probably more than the UK after Cameron is through.

Posted by: Paul at March 13, 2013 07:32 PM (g4Saz)

329 "101 I look forward to the Pontiff excommunicating his fellow Argentinians when they next attack the Falklands, in violation of just war theory."

From the things I have read about him and Kirchner, he might just do it. There is no love lost between them, and as an advocate of Social Justice - in the original sense, not the US Proglodyte sense (O God, I am heartily sorry...) - he is most likely opposed to war in general and aggressive war in particular. He might just excommunicate Kirchner if she tries anything.

Posted by: KC_EDM at March 13, 2013 07:36 PM (tDnMR)

330 I haven't gone through the comments yet, so I apologize if this is a repeat, but he's probably named after St. Francis of Assisi and not St. Francis Xavier. Also, the Pope is the head of the Jesuits (who are directly under him and not a local diocese), so technically every Pope since the founding of the order has been one.

Posted by: Michael at March 13, 2013 09:46 PM (dHgMz)

331 Yes, the Vatican came out and confirmed that it was St. Francis of Assisi. Guess they got tired of hearing all the media ruminations. Clue number 2, he sneaked out of the Vatican, sans security to go pray at the Bassillica of Santa Maria Maggiore, so he's already a handful and the youth will love him for it.

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 03:52 AM (/b8+5)

332 He is the Cardinal Protector of St. Robert Bellarmine Church in Rome, served by Jesuits. So that position is now vacant. He also served in the Curia (per wiki) "Member of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments Member of the Congregation for the Clergy Member of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life Member of the Pontifical Council for the Family Member of the Commission for Latin America"

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at March 14, 2013 04:02 AM (/b8+5)

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